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DAE not a feminist and hates scrots?
i was a radfem for 6 years and just recently have decided i'm fucking done with it.
i still agree with some of the principles but they're some of the rudest women i've ever known and seeing a young friend i'd made go from being a really sweet kid to a complete asshole pushed me over the edge.
I think building any kind of identity off of how oppressed you are is a mistake and will only lead to greater insecurity and unhappiness. Thinking about how the world is against you all the time isn't healthy.
Not a feminist but the "dae classism" argument is retarded. Every single liberation movement is typically concocted by those who have the means to allocate brainpower to philosophy.
It's always the dumb-ass communists who make that argument too, like their ideas weren't started by people like literal bourg Marx and literal prince Kropotkin.
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I feel in the same boat of other anons in ITT, I like feminism and I can agree with a lot of the things both radfems and libfems say(though not the sexpositive, pro-porn stuff, or the stuff that is all about trannies) but I am a lazy sort of person that isn't very prone to activism.
I have a qualm with some of the radfem posters, they will call you a tranny for liking kawaiishit but I am a biological woman! Just a tacky one.
Are you the catgirl sub anon? If yes than sorry, I relate to liking tacky stuff. Never had any interest in catgirls (or boys) or kittenplay and the fact that trannies are obsessed over the concept forsome reason ruined it for me.
In general, I hate when people say that random feminine thing is troon like. Stop agreeing with them when they take our stuff!(yes, I now I am a bit of hypocrite here).
I am not the catgirl sub, but I do like stuff like cat ears and am on the same page as you. It's annoying how trannies took a huge run with cute weebshit. At best someone assumes you are a shuwu-tier weirdo or at worst a tranny. I also don't like how some anons will call you out for using anime reaction images.
Look r/GenderCritical posters, I appreciate what you do but this is an imageboard and imageboards are inherently weebish.
>>399399>Just say x and go
You don't have to label yourself as anything to agree with them. I personally do not see myself as a feminist because I'm not active in the community. I don't have the time. I work, I'm a poorfag. I have feminist beliefs and will cheer on activists for their successes.
Slightly OT, I think just being a feminist in general is an earned label, not self given. We all know how BuzzFeed pushes their idea of a feminist… "If you're a woman, you're a feminist! Simple!" Some dumbasses will abuse that label to the ground.
As crazy as the pink pill thread is, everything there is based on reality. You should be upset with the men who constantly prove so called "feminazi's" right over again and over again. Women have very few places on the internet or in person to vent about men. If we give any criticism towards men, they cry like babies and claim women are the most privileged group in the world because people want to have sex with us.
Even though i agree very much with what radfems have to say, I hate liberal feminism with a burning passion. The sex positivity and fat acceptance movement is disgusting. I hate how young girls are being taught that sex work is cool and quicky, all this whinging about respecting peoples degenerate kinks. It serves to please men and puts women in more danger of rape and sexual assault. I can't call myself a feminist because i don't people to think i am here to defend that shit and all the other negative sterotypes attatched to feminism means nobody wants to listen. It's frustrating.
do you think their could be a neutral alternative between radical feminism and liberal feminism
one thats anti-sex work,anti-prostitution,anti-fat acceptance,anti-Troons but I don't know less "mean" I guess a bit more kinder to all people
Anon, your post echoes my thoughts exactly. That is exactly why I don't call myself feminist. In my opinion liberal feminism is just men's opinions and desires repackaged and presented as female opinion. It opposes radical feminism to such an extreme it basically serves to nullify the meaning of the word "feminism" completely. Radfems of the past didn't fight so hard for us to think that being degraded by strangers was "empowering" in 2019. Every libfem talking point coincidentally
has a result which is pleasing to men, for example free the nipple.
More topless women in public? yes please.
I agree with the idea of feminism but I hate calling myself a "feminist" (and being shamed by feminists for not wanting to identify with their ugly little label) because, while I agree with certain points they make and share some general opinions, I feel like the way they go about voicing them is annoying and counterproductive. Feminists don't only get a bad rep for saying stupid or obnoxious things imo, they also get a bad rep because of how they present themselves. The "angry, combative feminist" stereotype is a very real thing, and their often stereotypical flashy look (bright colored hair, piercings/tattoos, the clothes they wear) only exacerbates this more, it makes them look like lunatics. And I don't have anything against flashy people, I'm a flashy person myself, but now I hate that it's associated with crazy, screeching feminists.
I know some people are worth losing your composture over during an argument bc they're just so fucking dense or condescending, but I'm ashamed to associate myself or agree with a movement that, more often than not, gets noticed for being loud, rude and obnoxious. It makes me physically cringe. It's not appealing to anyone, ever, to be a total cunt to the people you're "debating" with. The loud, obvious feminists I encounter on the daily (mostly college) are always ready to pick fights with the people who say things they disagree with, and they're never very eager to be civil about it, they want to full-on yell at people. I don't want these people "representing" my gender, I just want a normal, level-headed woman who can have a discussion with a man or another woman without acting like she's God's gift to this Earth for reading tumblr posts and having feminist paraphernalia adorning her backpack.
Also: acting like people either agree 100% with what you say or they're wrong isn't gonna get people that don't like the idea of feminism in the first place to join your movement, and it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that 98% of what feminists say or do is geared towards OTHER feminists. The most extreme versions of these feel kind of cult-y, in my opinion; "you either agree with us or YOU'RE WRONG!!!". I thought the point of feminism was to convice people who DON'T like it that it's a rational ideology to have? But it's become more and more evident to me as I grow older that it's just another gatekeeper club where you either raise their flags and parrot what they say or you're "alienated". I hate it. No, I don't think sex work is a healthy thing to promote to women, esp. very young, impressionable women; no, I don't agree with every single trans issue you present to me, and I think I'm entitled to my opinion as long as I'm not assaulting trans people on sight; no, I don't think abortion is something you're allowed to make quirky, funny jokes about and sell fucking MERCH of (they actually did this in my country during the last abortion discussion, when it was being debated in congress); no, I don't think it's okay to go to protests or marches to get drunk and twerk on the street (people also did this during a march that wasn't even about feminism, it was a commemorative day for war veterans) and thinking that doesn't make me a "bigot" or a "moron". And no, I don't want to burn churches down or damage public property for the sake of my cause, and I can understand why people would get angry if you do it.
I don't go to feminist marches or protests in my country bc the VAST majority of people that go there are the most annoying cunts on the face of this Earth and I'd rather live in the Handmaiden's Tale world than ever be publicly associated with those lunatics. I once had a MALE friend turned "ally" who asked me why I wasn't going to the local Women's March and I didn't have the heart to tell him the honest truth: that maybe I don't want to support their cause just because I have a fucking vagina (which isn't even a requirement to some of these feminists, so I don't even know WHAT defines me as a woman); maybe I can reap the benefits and victories of feminism without blindly agreeing to everything and anything these frigid cunts with daddy issues and a pathological need for validation say. Maybe that's what feminism fought for in the first place, for me to be allowed to have an opinion that isn't your opinion.
Feminists fought through the centuries for my BASIC rights as a woman and now because of that it's mandatory to lick the unshaven ass of a pink-haired-undercut-looking-ass bitch that holds up trendy signs at protests and yells at people on Twitter as a sign of gratitude? No fucking thanks.