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No. 44925

What is your opinion on /r/Redpill?

No. 44926

They're pretty terrible. Their advice on negging and being an aggressive dick in general makes them look more insecure than "alpha" in the eyes of most women. Also, the way the mods not only allow but endorse misogyny seems counter-productive. It's possible to discuss sexual strategy without resorting to a self-pitying niceguy circlejerk about how hard done by they are.

They seem more interested in discussing theories that follow a pessimistic revenge fantasy narrative than actual unbiased, real-world observations - i.e. literally every woman banged 300 Chad dicks in college and cheat on all their poor beta boyfriends, until the moment they turn 30 suddenly all they have left are gross homeless men.

There's some good advice about lifting weights and tackling approach anxiety but those aren't exclusive to theredpill.

No. 44930

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>>44925
Here is my favorite comment from that subreddit

No. 44932

I don't even want to think about it. Sometimes it's kind of funny to read but it's all just a little too rage-inducing for me. The hypocrisy, stupid and sexism is too much.

No. 44933

Anyone who legitimately looks for advice on that shithole blows cheesy cock.

No. 44934

They're retarded. Just full of undeserved self-pity and counter-productive circlejerking. Also sexism.

No. 44949

i wonder how many stories on there are true. i actually bet a lot of them are real, just super exaggerated. it's not that hard for regular guys to get laid. it's just that these guys are super delusional about how successful they are compared to other guys. girls do like assholes kind of, so i'll give them that

No. 44955

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Nothing is more pathetic than redpill women, tbh.

No. 44956

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>>44955
Awesome tips for women who want to keep a nice, GOOD men.

No. 44967

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No. 44970

>>44956

>how to please your man - be a complete co-dependent doormat


I almost disbelieve that this was written by a woman.

No. 44991

>>44955
I've read this before on reddit and it just comes across as something a guy would write.

>>44956
This one specifies that it was written by a man. The first example was supposedly written by a woman.

No. 45054

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>>44955
Oh god RPW.

The highest voted comment to pic related was essentially "give him more blowjobs and spoil him rotten"

No. 45059

Manchildren.

No. 45060

>>44970
Meh, I can believe it. They're just BDSM fetishists who think that what gets them off is morally correct.

No. 45067

>>44955
RPW is a bunch of men pretending to be women.

No. 45075

>sleep around with as many women as possible
>whine about women being whores and no traditional wife

Right wing white dudes are so shitty and hypocritical.

No. 45077

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Oh shit, why have I never thought to make a thread about this?

The main sub r/theredpill isn't even about sexual strategy. I doubt a majority of the subscribers are even bothering to employ redpill strategies in real life. They just want a place to be reactionaries and hate on women. I think pic related sums up the whole movement pretty well.

You'd have to look in their smaller splinter subs like r/asktrp for actual non-bullshit real life anecdotes. There are some pretty cringey and hilarious finds when they're not making shit up trying to impress the community such as this one: https://web.archive.org/web/20141111232833/http://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/2lydxn/mindfuck_with_ex/


>>45075
They also hate on virgin girls who won't put out for their sorry ass for having "prince Charming syndrome". No matter what you do as a woman, it's wrong.

No. 45078

>>44955
I think the funniest thing about that is the fact that the whole subreddit unironically calls their spouses "captain".

No. 45084

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Another one of my favs. It summarizes my sentiments towards trp way more eloquently than I can ever hope to be

No. 45094

>>45077
>that "mindfuck with ex" post

i fucking love it

No. 45095

>>45094
Me too but now I'm questioning whether it actually happened because it's just a tad too satisfying. It's possible it's not actually a non-bullshit anecdote, but my point that the things you usually find on /r/asktrp are a bit different from the parent sub still stands.

No. 45131

>>45077
>They also hate on virgin girls who won't put out for their sorry ass for having "prince Charming syndrome". No matter what you do as a woman, it's wrong.

That's the most infuriating part about them, really.

No. 45151

It's funny because the movie Matrix is Jewish as fuck, if you pay attention.

No. 45274

>>45151
It has so many religious undertones (and not even subtle) that it turned me off from the movies entirely.

No. 45281

>>45151
Sorry to be an idiot, but how so? I thought the religious themes/archetypes were pretty Christ-y.

No. 45285

>>45077

>They also hate on virgin girls who won't put out for their sorry ass for having "prince Charming syndrome". No matter what you do as a woman, it's wrong.


It doesn't matter to them. Whether they are "holding out" or getting deep dicked by Chad every night, the point is, the aren't fucking redpillers.

It's kind of like a weird quip I heard once "A slut is a girl who will sleep with anyone; a bitch is a girl who will sleep with anyone but you".

No. 45290

>>45285
I heard a similar ones but it was this:

"a bitch is how they vilify a woman who says no, a slut is how they vilify a woman that says 'yes'"

No. 45299

>>45285
>>45290

They should do the world a favor, take some pills and kill themselves.

No. 45301

they are proved correct about most women by the responses to them in this very thread, all of which are some variation of "pathetic losers virgins nerds haha pathetic manchild virgins lol virgins" or "they're criticising women, and that's bad, because criticising women is always bad!"

their misogyny is vindicated by this very thread: women respond to anything they don't like by trying to socially shame it and accuse it of making them ~feel~ bad. being hostile to women is what keeps this milquetoast shit out of their board, which is apparently how they like it. more power to them i guess.

that said, i don't give a fuck about it and never really even been there.

No. 45304

>>45301
Actually, the replies were criticizing the hypocrisy and foundation of their beliefs for not being based in reality, but of course, as a typical redpiller with a victim complex, all you could read was "neckbeard neckbeard loser creepy".

Also
>women respond to anything they don't like by trying to socially shame it
Lol this is what 99% of redpillers do when they talk about "sluts". But when they do it, they're just ~in their anger phase~ and free from criticism.

>i don't give a fuck about it and never really even been there.

Yeah ok

No. 45305

In other news, when will it be my turn to find a sexy Blue pilled bf? ;-;

No. 45307

>>45304
i'm a cis lesbian

i don't really care about redpill stuff just because it has nothing to do with my life

MRA is generally ok

most responses really truly are "virgin virgin virgin" tbh, straight women are obsessed with "keeping men in line" with this weird terror they seem to have about women calling them losers

No. 45311

>>45307
>straight women are obsessed with "keeping men in line" with this weird terror they seem to have about women calling them losers
Holy crap I didn't realize it was possible to be so dimwitted.

No. 45328

>>45301
>trying to justify their sexism and misogyny

Please go back there.

No. 45330

>>45307
Robot pls go

No. 45343

>>45328
have you considered testosterone supplements? just try them for a while, seriously life gets a lot better when you aren't crying about things people tweeted on the internet three times a day

No. 45348

>>45343
Tell that to the MRAs and everyone involved in gamer gate lol

No. 45361

>>45281
not the same person but the song playing at the party or sth is called zion and then there's other names in the movie that are rly unsubtle. of course it's kinda christian as well since old testament and all that overlap

No. 45365

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>>45301
/pol/, get out. People are criticizing their arguments, you're just mad that you're being called out on your shit. If you need to build up a strawman for your opponent, then your argument is shit.

No. 45366

>>45307
>Insulting people for saying stupid shit justifies everything they said

No. 45367

>>45311


I know, LOL this >>45301
retard

anyone who believes this whole red pill shit is insane anyways btw

they are just crazy abusers who seek to be alpha, when they are all betas and sexist af

No. 45368

>>45343
seriously life gets a lot better when you aren't crying about things people say on lolcow three times a day

No. 45370

>>45365
>People are criticizing their arguments,

lol: >>45301
>the responses to them in this very thread, all of which are some variation of "pathetic losers virgins nerds haha pathetic manchild virgins lol virgins" or "they're criticising women, and that's bad, because criticising women is always bad!"

cf.
>>45367
>they are just crazy abusers who seek to be alpha, when they are all betas and sexist af
>they are all betas and sexist af

literally only capable of understanding the issue in social-hierarchical terms

"these guys criticised me! they must want to be [socially superior in hierarchy] but in reality they are [socially inferior in hierarchy]! loser virgins and ipso facto incorrect!! silence them!"

it's just funny, this is exactly why misogyny is so reactionary, because straight bitches are fucking obsessed with their vaginas and the middling level of inherent worth they provide

No. 45376

>>45370
mate i think you are not in the thread you want to be in

No. 45377

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>>45376
i am always where i want to be, because home is where the heart is

No. 45379

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No. 45712

>>45075
>theRedPill
>right wing
lolwut

No. 45827

>>45712
Not that anon, but like 99.9% of the "red pill" shit I've seen is extremely conservative, reactionary, and/or traditionalist, so…?

No. 45852

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a bit OT but r/purplepilldebate can be interesting if you like to discuss sexual dynamics/strategies

No. 45876

>>45285
>the point is, the aren't fucking redpillers.
Not true. They'll still call you a slut if you do sleep with them.

No. 45877

>>45370
>because straight bitches are fucking obsessed with their vaginas and the middling level of inherent worth they provide
projection.jpg.

You're terrible at drawing conclusions. We call them bitter virgin neckbeards because they sound like one, type like one and think like one. See >>45084

I think the only one who's obsessed about vagoos in this thread is you.

No. 45882

>>45060
Shit, I never thought of it that way. You're exactly right.

No. 45883


No. 45912

>>45301

>create an entire sub-culture around the fact that you can't get laid

>"haha, dumb women, they can only bargain with their pussies XDDD"

Literally shut up.

No. 45935

>>45877
no you call them bitter pathetic losers because of something called "circumstantial ad hominem," which is an attempt to dismiss an opponent's position by surmising an embarrassing or ulterior motive for holding it

this is also an ad baculum because you are coercing the person rather than actually discussing with them

but of course actual discussion isn't necessary when you, the self-appointed bestower of male social worth (i.e. confirmation of virility), can simply threaten to revoke it by ridiculing a guy's manhood

maybe it's wrong to say you're obsessed with your vagina; you are your vagina and nothing else

No. 45946

>>45935

>no you call them bitter pathetic losers because of something called "circumstantial ad hominem," which is an attempt to dismiss an opponent's position by surmising an embarrassing or ulterior motive for holding it

>you are your vagina and nothing else
dat dialectical high ground

>but of course actual discussion isn't necessary when you, the self-appointed bestower of male social worth (i.e. confirmation of virility), can simply threaten to revoke it by ridiculing a guy's manhood

For someone who knows so much about logical fallacies, you missed out on that strawman there.

But yeah, I'm sure that you're just telling it like it is and that we just can't handle the truth etc.

No. 45950

>>45935
Maybe ignore the insults? The thread didn't even start off with debating yet there are plenty of posts ITT criticizing their beliefs for being hypocritical, why not address those instead of getting all triggered because some people dared to call them a name? Redpillers regularly insult women by calling them evil sluts, whores, and bitches, but as soon as someone talks shit about them as well, it's how dare you call me a neckbeard and revoke my manhood!!!

Y'all are worse than tumblrinas, really.

No. 45961

>>45935

I could understand if you felt the need to defend MRAs that were just being name called that had valid men's issues they were concerned with.. but the red pill people don't actually have good intentions.
You don't need to get all ~ weird sexual dynamic ~ about it, especially since no one here is actually interacting with any of TRP people.

No. 45964

>>45961
i'm not defending anyone, really. i am just explaining to you why those types of guys, who are becoming massively more common on the internet and spreading like wildfire, are so reactionary, why they have the ideology they have and why they defend it with such venom. it's because they are acutely aware of the one trick of straight women, the ultimate one-trick pony: attempting to humiliate them by using your innate worth as a woman (the granter of sex, therefore virility, therefore status to men).

it's not a conscious strategy. that would actually be less insidious. it's unconsciously ingrained in straight women to see men as EITHER submitting to their whims OR in dire need of being called a virgin loser, who has a neckbeard, and lives with his mom, and who won't do well with the ladies with that attitude!!!

it's why they hate you. it's why they hate us. it's what fuels their entire thing. responding with yet more of it is just throwing yet more fuel on that fire.

>but the red pill people don't actually have good intentions.

again, inability to see things except in terms of feelings and petty social gibberish ("they made me feel bad," "they're meanies").

"The passions of men have thus placed women on thrones, and, till mankind become more reasonable, it is to be feared that women will avail themselves of the power which they attain with the least exertion, and which is the most indisputable. They will smile,—yes, they will smile, though told that—
'In beauty's empire is no mean,
And woman, either slave or queen,
Is quickly scorn'd when not ador'd.'"

No. 45965

>>45964
Is your first name 6 letters long and does it start with an 'M'?

No. 45981

>>45935
>mah logical fallacies
Because this thread isn't an actual debate you fucking moron. Typical redditpiller shoehorning their fallacy fallacy every time someone disses them. What do you want us to do, cite 50 peer reviewed papers just so we can complain about you?

>>45950
This.

>>45964
Really? They're humiliated because we're bitching about them on a board made up of 99% females of which roughly 0% of its content would they be interested in?

>it's why they hate you. it's why they hate us. it's what fuels their entire thing. responding with yet more of it is just throwing yet more fuel on that fire.

Give me one good reason why I should give a single shit.

No. 45989

>>45981
i'm not saying that it's a formal debate, more that you are succumbing to a diseased way of thinking (coerce others rather than tolerate them or confront them ingenuously; interpret all criticisms of your behaviour as having ulterior motives; defend status quo and attack marginal ideas for its own sake), and that this thinking makes you an idiot and a bitch, and emboldens and augments the behaviour you apparently dislike

i am trying to educate you so you stop being a stupid bitch i hope it helps

>>45965
WHO'S ASKING

No. 45990

>>45989
You haven't told me anything I don't know already. I simply don't care.

For the record, my first post ITT was >>45077. If you want a debate you can start by responding to that one.

No. 45993

>>45964

>again, inability to see things except in terms of feelings and petty social gibberish ("they made me feel bad," "they're meanies").

But
>it's why they hate you.

>implying hatred isn't a serious and extreme emotional response to something

No. 45998

>>45993
>i shouldn't do X because doing X is bad? but steve does X!

this one is called "tu quoque"

No. 46000

>>45998

>women "hate" men

>so men hate them back

And this is women's fault, let alone a tu quoque?
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying.

No. 46003

>>45964
>it's not a conscious strategy. that would actually be less insidious. it's unconsciously ingrained in straight women to see men as EITHER submitting to their whims OR in dire need of being called a virgin loser, who has a neckbeard, and lives with his mom, and who won't do well with the ladies with that attitude!!!
Okay but
CTRL+F "loser"
>>45301
>>45307
>>45370
>>45311
>>45935
>>44925
>>45946
>>44925
>>45964
>>45304 (this is in response to your post)
CTRL+F "virgin"
>>45077 (not calling THEM virgins, but pointing out that they attack virgin women for not sleeping with them)
>>45131 (showing disdain for the attitude described in the previous post)
>>45285 (also in regards to how they feel about virgin women)
>>45307
>>45370
>>45877 (in response to your post)
>>45964
CTRL+F "neckbeard"
>>45304 (this is in response to your rhetoric rather than an "organic" insult toward anyone calling them a neckbeard)
>>45877 (this is, too)
>>45950 (and so is this)
>>45964
Literally all you, except for those who are responding directly to you, and even then most of them aren't actually calling them any of those things. You're fucking retarded and just came to complain over nothing. Fuck your feelings.

No. 46004

>>46003
Don't use reason, facts, or common sense, you'll trigger the poor thing.

No. 46005

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>>46003
Holy shit LOL

>>46004
Basically this.

No. 46006

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>>46003
AHAHAHAHA

Has anyone on lolcowchan ever been rekt this hard?

No. 46007

I'm >>45961


>>45964
Anon.. first of all, I don't think there is any excuse to have a completely reactionary viewpoint, going either way. Calling women poisonous harpies or men basement dwelling virgins isn't going to get you anywhere and expand your world view.
Being bullied can fuck people up and many people are mean on the internet, which probably doesn't help a lot of people express themselves. However, I think it's wrong to say that women exclusively are the ones putting men down with this sexual/power dynamic when men are saying the exact same thing just as often. Name-calling someone a basement dweller/virgin is just as common as calling someone autistic or a faggot nowadays.
I understand men are in general more focused on sex and can get their feelings hurt/egos bruised (whatever you want to call it) a lot easier about it, specifically being rejected. I would say the 'nice guy' err.. trope.. is a very overused, but there are some men that think they are entitled to sex and approach the world that way, probably more of them on TRP than normal.
There are plenty of lonely guys that aren't jerks about it though, don't think I'm saying there aren't. There are assholes in any category, but I'm not judging someone for being a virgin or living with their parents or something if they are nice.

>it's why they hate you. it's why they hate us. it's what fuels their entire thing. responding with yet more of it is just throwing yet more fuel on that fire.

This is kind of weird, none of the red pill people hate me and none of the single guys I know hate me.. it's not exactly my fault if they hate me because I'm a woman but I doubt that's what you were saying.
I don't think criticizing TRP posts for sounding controlling is really putting down anyone either - a lot of them come off that way and I can't imagine people are misinterpreting it. I don't think anyone feels that being nice to your significant other or that a relationship does better when each person 'contributes 100%' are bullshit points, it's just that a lot of the red pill posts call for women to be subservient to the men and that is how to have a harmonious relationship. Some people do prefer that, but I think it's erroneous to say it works for everyone or that it's ideal because someone personally likes it.

>it's not a conscious strategy. that would actually be less insidious. it's unconsciously ingrained in straight women to see men as EITHER submitting to their whims OR in dire need of being called a virgin loser, who has a neckbeard, and lives with his mom, and who won't do well with the ladies with that attitude!!!

I don't think this is true either. I mean, as usual I'm sure some people are like that, no one can argue no one does this. Also I think a lot of tumblr feminist kind of people act like this and probably engage with MRA and TRP groups and the interaction produces a lot of idiotic stereotypical crap. However, saying women unconsciously either see men as servants or gross virgins is a bit much.. I don't think that's very healthy for one, and is not normal. Like, my family is pretty balanced between women and men and my uncle married a crazy lady.. no one is happy about that, everyone would much rather he had not married a control freak. Basically, in my opinion, power dynamics in relationships are tricky and you have to be reasonable and invested in the relationship and not just trying to be in charge, but flexible and willing to compromise. Saying 'straight women are like __' and 'straight men are like ___' is again, not going to help you grow as a person and will probably not help someone get over their internal complexes, either.

I think some people are coming off aggressively toward the red pill posts in this thread but that doesn't mean the posts are above criticism, nor does being aggressive mean a point is automatically wrong. I also don't think it's objectively wrong to be aggressive toward something, but that is my own opinion. You can't say that being aggressive is unique here however, it is common on the internet.

I really do think that it is wrong to treat all men or all women as if they think the same - it's unfounded to say sex dictates such a large part of your personality. People can be raised badly or well, it's usually more important than what you were born with. It's better to approach someone to let them show you their personality rather than trying to fit them in a preconceived mold.

I have another remark which is that to my knowledge, no one from this thread has confronted any of TRP posters in any way, but you have said a few things that make it sound a bit like they are.

>>45989
I think TRP members are participating in a diseased way of thinking.. I really do agree that there are a lot of fucking idiots everywhere but that doesn't excuse formulating your whole life plan based on them. Wrongs never equal right, it's often no more than a justification for bad behavior. I don't agree with rampant SJWs either, even though I support equal rights and such and such. I don't think you have to identify as a feminist to want women to have rights and not be raped, and I don't think you have to identify as an MRA to want men to have rights and not get raped and have men's cancer have more awareness and funding etc etc but I am also not going to hate someone just because they publicly align with one of the groups. TRP however is full of people trying to stuff people into their worldview, whether they fit or not. I don't hate them, but I can think specific things they think are harmful to reinforce and incorrect. A lot of them complain about abusive women, and I do think abuse by women is not taken as seriously as it should be. There are often instances of law enforcement for example blowing things off when it doesn't fit their usual narrative. However, it is the internet and people do lie. It is not good to victim blame and if someone is being abused they need access to help, but it does take two to fight. If your gf hits you or slaps you, even with a low amount of force it will still hurt and is not ok and I believe you should leave her because you shouldn't be getting hit.
Basically, you shouldn't let people take advantage of you, but subscribing to the red pill ideology is poisonous. Not because it 'wakes men up' from their subjugation by women through sex (which I'm sure some people do need), but it reinforces a reactionary viewpoint and builds completely off of it, often using handpicked, anecdotal evidence.

No. 46012

>>46003

24 car pile-up of rekt

No. 46014

>>46003
Jokes on you, I was only trolling the whole time and you fell for it.

No. 46016

>>46014
>gets anally ravaged
>i was just trolling this whole time guise lul kek XD xD u fell 4 it

mmmmm sure ok

something something logical fallacy

No. 46020

>>46003
an enumeration of the times someone said "you call people [_______] too much" isn't really relevant, unless that someone is actually talking about verbatim usage. like if i were complaining about saying "nigger" or something. but that would be absurd, since i'm explicitly NOT targeting the specific use of a specific word (and never was), but a general behaviour (social shaming). in this analogy, my target is racism, not the word "nigger" itself. the equivalent of this thread would be a bunch of racists packaging their racism in various ways, and you singling me out as the only person who actually said the n-word.

"LOL UR A VIRGIN" just epitomises the kneejerk dismissiveness based on sexually based social hierarchy enforcement.

>>46007
i agree with you completely and i think you misunderstand me in thinking that i am defending them or their viewpoints. well, some of them are correct - the basic underlying attitude of dissolving their ingrained sycophancy toward vaginas is good, especially in this weird new sexual economy where sex is basically meaningless (and courtship ruthless as fuck). but in general i don't think their hostility is good or useful or even "deserved." just understandable.

>Name-calling someone a basement dweller/virgin is just as common as calling someone autistic or a faggot nowadays.

this is where i really disagree with you and this is where i think the issue lies. my whole point is that these guys are lashing out so strongly and erecting venomous defenses against women because they are acutely aware of women's ability to obliterate them simply by saying "lel virgin" (oh no there it is again). this attitude is systemically distributed: watch carefully and you'll see women tend to focus in on how the men are "pathetic," "insecure," or a thousand other variants of weak, effeminate, not manly, invirile, etc. it's an ingrained, unconsciously instinct. straight women know how to leverage their sexual capital, or rather, instinctive behaviours which leverage their sexual capital have been naturally selected because they are efficient at promoting fitness. women who tend toward this cowing of any aggressor will tend to survive better and protect their positions in society better.

>I understand men are in general more focused on sex and can get their feelings hurt/egos bruised (whatever you want to call it) a lot easier about it,

you probably think you do, but you are basically scratching the exposed surface of the male soul when you, as a woman, mention ANYTHING about his virility or potency or lack thereof.

paglia:
>Because of the nature of the penis, men have performance anxiety, whereas no woman ever has to prove herself in this way. So men's egos are totally involved in performance, in doing, achieving.
>The male has to will his sexual authority before the woman who is a shadow of his mother and of all women. Failure and humiliation constantly wait in the wings. No woman has to prove herself a woman in the grim way a man has to prove himself a man. He must perform, or the show does not go on. Social convention is irrelevant. A flop is a flop.
>A woman simply is, but a man must become. Masculinity is risky and elusive. It is achieved by a revolt from woman, and is confirmed only by other men.
>Freud says, “Man fears that his strength will be taken from him by woman, dreads becoming infected with her femininity and then proving himself a weakling.” Masculinity must fight off effeminacy day by day. Woman and nature stand ever ready to reduce the male to boy and infant.

norah vincent, a lesbian who masqueraded as a man and dated women:
>If you have never been sexually attracted to women, you will never quite understand the monumental power of female sexuality, except by proxy or in theory, nor will you quite know the immense advantage it gives us over men. Dating women as a man was a lesson in female power, and it made me, of all things, into a momentary misogynist, which I suppose was the best indicator that my experiment had worked. I saw my own sex from the other side, and I disliked women irrationally for a while because of it. I disliked their superiority, their accusatory smiles, their entitlement to choose or dash me with a fingertip, an execution so lazy, so effortless, it made the defeats and even the successes unbearably humiliating. Typical male power feels by comparison like a blunt instrument, its salvos and field strategies laughably remedial next to the damage a woman can do with a single cutting word: no.

THIS DYNAMIC is at the crux of idiotic feminist-vs.-MRA discourse. this is why i say you have to be careful about reacting simply by emasculating - which most commonly takes seemingly benign forms, like "autistic" or just "socially unacceptable" (i.e. failure to "live up to" social propriety, to perform, to be upstanding, to be a real man). while we passively regurgitate our two million year old heritage of calling disobedient penises pathetic losers, a new generation of incredibly angry and often violent misogynists is being created, and the only response is to shame them further.

i agree with you on most things, at least in ideal. but seriously:
>However, saying women unconsciously either see men as servants or gross virgins is a bit much..
>it's unfounded to say sex dictates such a large part of your personality.
i think a lot of the BEST and most useful critiques MRAs and especially PUAmisogynyfags contribute to feminist discourse are along these lines.

wollstonecraft:
>[T]he whole female sex are, till their character is formed, in the same condition as the rich: for they are born … with certain sexual privileges, and whilst they are gratuitously granted them, few will ever think of works of supererogation …

what better way to remove that stultifying privilege than to cut it off at the source, by making men suspicious of horseshit chivalrous narratives? a woman who doesn't have a white knight licking her boots is a woman who develops agency. better a PUA than a beta male toady.

No. 46021

>>46020
You keep making the accusation we're deliberately shaming TRP but so far gave literally zero evidence for it, general behavior or specific instances. Just fuck off you mouthbreather.

No. 46023

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No. 46024

>>46021
Careful Anon, you might trigger him by calling him a mouthbreather

No. 46025

>>46020
>>46020
What the actual fuck did I read. Tell middle eastern women about their sexual privileges (theyre never killed for being considered impure nope) and those who have undergone FGM. Protip, the west doesn't constitue the entire world. Ill give a shit about red pill dipshits and their hurt feels when women aren't being splashed with acid, aborted, having their genitals mutilated, or killed for honor. Fair?

No. 46027

>>46025
no that is quite stupid

it is not a game with tallies, anon. you can want western women to develop agency and stop being feckless materialists AND still dislike acid facebaths!

what a wonderful complex world we live in

No. 46028

>>46025
>actually bothering to read all that autismo
Goes for the both of them by the way

No. 46029

>>46027
>implying Red pillers are relevant in any way when considering pretty much any other issue in the world is more important

No. 46032

>>46029
damn that explains why you're on an internet forum on a friday night talking about them then

i can FEEL cancer being cured by your efficient prioritising!!

No. 46033

>>46032
Implying its friday night here. Could you be anymore transparently western-centric? Sorry not sorry that your ~masculinity~ is being stamped on by pesky feminists.

No. 46034

>>46033
are you safe from the acid gangs? can i donate to your anti-acid patreon or something?

No. 46036

>>46034
Belittle violence against women, but please, think of all the poor innocent sexually frustrated western men!

No. 46037

>>46032
>>46034
>being this desperate about getting /b/ to give a shit about redditpillers

No. 46038

>>46037
i think the real important thing is why you are so immensely upset about internet

should we get to the bottom of this

No. 46039

>>46038
Just who do you think you're replying to? I'm not her.

No. 46041


No. 46044

>>46041
It's like you've finally realized you've lost every single argument and is now merely trying to salvage some form of success by trying to rouse anons.

No. 46045

>>46044
no it was a clip from total recall

No. 46052

>>46020
>"LOL UR A VIRGIN" just epitomises the kneejerk dismissiveness based on sexually based social hierarchy enforcement
Yeah, nah. No one enforced any form of sexual hierarchy, we're insulting them based on their retarded delusions disguised as logic.
No one called their sexual prowess into question even once or said they must be pathetic basement dwellers or whatever the fuck else you're accusing us of. Yes, stupid, insane people will be shamed and laughed at on anonymous forums from time to time. We laugh at crazy women, too (see: Tumblr threads).
Stop crying that we're "shaming" them (though they should be shamed, mental illness and psuedo-logic based on one's own personal anger should not be socially acceptable) or trying to stifle them just because they're not "slaves to the pussy!!1!!1!" or whatever your retarded argument is. Just fuck off already, you were proven wrong and exposed as a faggot.
If these people made even a lick of sense, this thread wouldn't be here. It just wouldn't.

No. 46063

>>46062
Interesting read but wow, you shouldn't have mentioned his username. Now let's just hope nobody would link him this thread.

No. 46064

>>46052
Fucking perfect response.

No. 46067

>>46063
Good point.

Here is my comment without the username:
I think trp can be a pretty harmful place for its members and its targets. In particular, I've kind of been following this guy around on reddit. his posts are fascinating, and I think he is the perfect example of how trp can really warp someone's mindview. This guy is seriously mentally ill, and found trp looking for help with socializing. Apparently he was kicked off of a forum in the past because of his obsessive shitposting. He latched onto trp and it has completely consumed his thoughts. He sometimes gets so into his rants, that it looks like he is cry-typing. He claims he was diagnosed with Aspergers and he is recently getting treatment. But psychologists have had a hard time treating his mental health because he believes that the world is controlled by the "female imperative". Why would a female doctor want to help him, if women naturally despise beta men, and only care about fucking Chad? According to trp, women are "the youngest teenager in the house", and are incapable of empathy or rational thought. This guy has so internalized these rp "truths", that he now literally thinks women are laughing at him in the streets. Once he learned about "hypergamy" he ran his gf off by constantly accusing her of cheating. He posts topics with titles like "Should we forcibly pressure beta males into seemingly changing their sexual preferences and expressing interest when they're not?" and "CMV: Every woman despises weak low status heterosexual men. Even Bluepill women. Even feminist women." In some of his posts, he has even said that he isn't even that interested in sex, he just wants respect and to not fear women anymore.

I think that trp can exasperate a person's already skewed perceptions (like the guy in my example above), while encouraging "debate" in a very aggressive echo chamber, along with many sets of rules/key figures. For certain people, I think it can create a kind of paranoid feedback loop, which can start to effect their day-to-day life.

No. 46101

>>46067
God, I fucking hate asspies. They only think in absolutes and are completely incapable of seeing the humanity in people. I'm convinced that they perceive other human beings as objects, honestly.

No. 46102

>>46063
Why would him seeing this be a bad thing? And if he comes here to sperg, more lulz for us.

No. 46103

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its apparent proof of how childish, entitled, and insecure males are.

top kek material for sure.

No. 46107

>>46102
The last thing I want is him telling his fellow redpillers and lolcowchan gets yet another invasion, but that's just me.

No. 46108

>>46101
His thinking is completely black and white. The strangest thing for me is that he puts absolute faith in the anecdotes of some random trp blog, but any studies on human behaviour get thrown out the window because they have obvs been poisoned by the "female imperative" and they will actively work to turn him into a beta.

The more he reads trp, the less faith he has in the humanity of women, and the more faith he has in this "women naturally despise beta men" conspiracy theory. If you present a source that disproves his theory, and he notices it was performed by XYZ University, then DUH everything it says WOULD be the opposite of his theories…because the school system/modern medicine/psychology/etc want to turn him into a beta. The fact that the study disproved his theory PROVES that it is part of the female imperative!

All these absolutes are starting to feed his paranoia.

No. 46118

>>46067
I think it was 'most responsible teenager in the house'
I agree with you though, it's not a healthy place. I think it really encourages paranoia to get people to believe their rhetoric easier. It's much easier to get people to join and stick with something if you tell them people are out to get them and etc, I think. SJWs do it too.

>>46101
>>46108
It might be easier for people with aspergers to get caught up in stuff, he doesn't sound too high functioning in the first place. I know some people with it and they are pretty nice though, they do care about people.. I don't think it's fair to generalize people that have a spectrum disorder.
On topic though, people really like looking for proof of their own opinions rather than what the evidence actually says.

>>46107
Thanks for being responsible hehe

No. 46134

>>46118
I agree totally.

This guy's Aspergers was undiagnosed for most of his life, but he knew he had issues socializing. The thing that makes me the most sad is that he found trp by asking questions on other forums, looking for help. He got trolled hard, but he has this "why would people lie to me?" naive attitude about him.

When you break it down, it is easy to see how he became so consumed by it: low social skills, undiagnosed mental illness (GAD), undiagnosed Aspergers, naive attitudes about sex, baggage from parent's messy divorce, history of disordered eating, persecution complex, bullying throughout childhood, and impulse control problems (he has posted about masturbating to the point of injury). It makes total sense to me that he has been so taken in by a philosophy that says "its them that's the problem! the system is stacked against you! They will try to hurt you, so let me teach you how to protect yourself!"

No. 46162

>>46134
wow that is sad anon.

No. 46167

I actually feel kind of sorry for them,they have this very dellusional idea about attraction and the dynamics of dating and its not really their fault the dynamics of dating just kind of suck for guys, and girls have an overwhelming advantage in that regard.I just feel kind of bad for those guys because I have had some pretty similar experiences in my life,and I probably would have gone down the same path if I did'nt find the right info to read and did'nt start getting over some of the bad experiences I had with girls.

No. 46189

>>46167
Fuck off robot you're full of shit.

No. 46190

>>46167
you always have a choice anon. not all of them deserve your pity.

>>46189
rude

No. 46192

>>46067
what's his username? i'd love to see. what a lolcow

No. 46195

>>46067
Pretty sure I know who this is. he posts to PPD alot

No. 46199

>>46167
I feel sorry for them too, but not because "girls have an overwhelming advantage" in regards to dating. Women only have an advantage if you are so desperate for sex that you are willing to fuck any rando who hits you up. Yes, yes, okcupid poll, 80:20 ratios, blablabla, no. The IRL and online are different arenas, and if you are tempted to pull out the okcupid poll then make sure you understand that it isn't representative of the entire female popular on earth.

These red pill guys are looking for a formula; an absolute truth about women (I'm sorry, "plates") that will give them the upperhand in any scenario. That is impossible. General trends can be used to make predictions on behaviour, but individual differences throw a huge wrench in the mix. Have you ever read /r/marriedredpill? They believe that women become more attracted to their husbands if they believe he could leave them at any time. They call it "dread game". If you aren't getting what you want in your marriage, "inspire dread", and she will do whatever you want! All women want it, they just don't tell you they want it because of their brain hamsters. These guys are so wrapped up in their rhetoric that they believe that any woman, no matter what, will literally love their husbands more if they feel like they don't matter to him. That defies logic. Sure, maybe their wives will start being more attentive for a while, but only because they are probably confused and scared that their husband's behaviour has done a 180. That isn't love. But, if you are a weak person who is looking for a step-by-step formula to ensure success, then it sure looks like it is working. Their friends on TRP keep telling them what a good job they're doing. So, everything must be okay, right?

That's why I feel bad for them. Not because of their "disadvantage" in the dating game, but because of their obvious lack of confidence in who they are as people, that they think they need to "win" in any relationship that they will ever be in.

No. 46200

>>46192
I'm so reluctant to post it again. When anon called me out, I was like "you know what, they're right". This guy is actually very sick. He gets trolled hard basically wherever he goes.

But I won't lie, with the info I've provided you could easily find him if you wanted to.

>>46195
He has a certain level of infamy now. All of his posts are essays, and they are all batshit. He does hang out there a lot. If you think you know who he is, then you probably do.

No. 46204

>>46195
What's PPD?

No. 46207

>>46204
Purple Pill Debate

No. 46210

>>46204
>>46207

pussypassdenied

No. 46212

>>46199
This "dread" shit is so fucked up.

No. 46213

>>46192
Meh, I'll say it. It's Xemnas81

No. 46214

>>46213
This guy is pure neoreactionary buzzword bingo.

Just this one post looks like it's out of a random generator: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3rxve7/red_pill_sets_young_losers_up_for_failure/cwshj24

>blank slate fallacy narrative of ostensibly liberal Western society

>TRP discusses the fact that women are also primitive animals because Feminism and cultural Marxism
>dislikes our raw sex drives and the ramifications of this (women cannot respect betas/omegas, Briffault's Law, hypergamy
>the politically correct 'gendered thing just hurt me, how did this happen?'
>TRP stresses lift and women cheat on betas because Hypergamy Doesn't Care About Relational Equity, whatever the profs in the ivory tower try to tell you.

It's like word salad.

Same for https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3rljm5/does_trp_truly_use_science_to_paint_women_as/cwq32m2 and https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3rn2ve/what_would_it_take_for_men_to_value_commitment_on/cwq1lg1

No. 46229

>>46020
This guy is OP

No. 46243

>>46213
This is at least the second time you've dropped his username. Just pointing that out.

No. 46247

>>46243
I'm not the other anon, just pointing that out

No. 46250

>>46243
>>46247
OP here. Ya, I'm not going to confirm or deny any username guesses about "Paul" (let's go with Paul for now)

No. 46266


No. 46286

>>46266
Maybe I don't understand redpillers but what is the endgame here? To make their wives their sex slaves? Why is he surprised that his wife has caught on that all he wants from her is sex? Obviously he doesn't give a fuck about companionship.

I think sex is important in relationships but if you're using the threat of divorce just to get your wife to blow you every night then your relationship already has an expiration date.

No. 46291

>>46286
According to https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/2lpafb/the_12_step_plan_of_dread_book_excerpt_from_my/

"“Dread” is putting the fear or ‘dread’ in your wife that you have other opportunities and other options rather than being chained to her whims. They HATE it- or at least they will TELL you they hate it- but women are irresistibly attracted to men who have options. This is well known as "Secondary Selection" or "Pre-selection Bias.""

But according to TRP's glossary:

"Dread Game - Purposefully inciting jealousy in an LTR by openly getting attention from other women. Soft Dread is similar, but less open. With Soft Dread, the attention doesn't even need to be real. Creating the possibilty for female attention is enough to get the hamster going. (If you develop a great body, she knows that other women will find that attractive without having to actually see other women displaying interest.) The purpose of using Dread is to get the target (wife, girlfriend, plate) to step up their game to compete with other interested women."

it's pretty fucked up either way.

No. 46409

Faggots who believe /r/RedPill probably think shit like this is real too and totally not set up.

No. 46416

how is this a "prank" tho?

No. 46420

>>46266
This makes me fucking sick. These women have just had children, ruined their bodies for these shitstain men who only want to use them as a living, breathing fleshlight.

No. 46423

>>46266
jfc what a "marriage". You'd think they'd learn to communicate at some point over 7 years. It sounds like there's just resentment bouncing from him to her and now it's everywhere.

No. 46453

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>>46409
>6 million views

No. 46467

>>46420
>>46423
I think the worst part is that it sounds like the OP is slightly hesitant to treat his wife like complete garbage 24/7:

"Not arguing at all but more asking how to instill dread better given my morals to the point that it is effective without her only fear being nuclear."

But he doesn't seem to really like her at all:

"SMV aside I would rank us both as highly social and very good looking. I would rank myself higher due to social status though.
Her I would rank lower due to being a 35 year old mother of 3 and SAHM. While being easy on the eyes she also carries a lot of baggage so to speak."

And basically the only advice is given is to create more "dread". Just pourrrrr more gas on that fire.

No. 46472

>>46416
"prank" translates to "porn for kids"

No. 46491

>>46467
People on that post were berating him for kissing her on the forehead and giving her cuddles. Some people want him to just rape her instead of respecting her wishes. And why do people keep bringing up hamsters? Is that a term for a female brain?

Are men so sex-starved that they need it 24/7? Its posts like this that make me afraid of getting married and having kids. It seems like all men care about is sex sex and more sex.

No. 46501

>>46467
>Calling your own children "baggage"
That quote is the most infuriating part to me. Why even have them then?

No. 46502

>>46501
Men want to get women pregnant and want something to carry on their name. They don't want to actually be parents.

No. 46511

>>46501
I just feel bad for the kids with these pieces of shits for fathers.

Not only do they have to witness them being assholes to their own moms, but they also have a dad who thinks of them as some sort of "handicap" in whatever sick mind game red pillers like to play. Growing up probably won't be easy for them.

No. 46527

>>46266
>Also the mid bj halt was when we were drunk, it was 2am and she is the only one who feeds the child at night while I sleep through feedings and changings. I do realize this could be/probably is hamstering but I saw it coming, wasn't gonna cum easy and before she quit I threw my hands behind my head and just wanted to watch and see how long she would go.
Fuck this guy.

>I have taken the comment about ruling out medical issues seriously from BPP due to a history of crazy as fuck anxiety she has taken meds for previously as well as hormones readjusting only 3 months after pregnancy as we speak.

He knows she is hormonally out of whack and has crazy anxiety issues at baseline but is still all about the emotional manipulation to get his dick wet. Fuck this guy more.

>However; I also think my OI over the bj and how I handled it was fucking horrible. After reading your comments I realize I should have acted differently. I inadvertently and mistakenly praised her with the kiss in the forehead and that was a huge step back.


Fuck this guy the most. Fuck TRP for enabling this. What a disgusting mental philosophy.

No. 46538

>>46291
Fuck,this is terrible. What if women put their man through this shit? How quickly would it take for them to breakdown into a paranoid blubbering mess? Is it trying to level the playing field since they know that women /could/ find someone else to fuck around with or take care of them easier than a man could? Shit ain't okay.

No. 46550

>>46420
Kind of their fault for getting involved with these pieces of shit to begin with.

No. 46552

>>46550
I'm sure you are perfect at immediately being able to tell when a shitty person is shitty

No. 46554

>>46550
That's not how dating works. These men even admit they are "betas" prior to joining TRP.

No. 46556

>>46550
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of the "dread" thing is to do a complete 180 of your personality and start inspiring fear in your wife/LTR with your sudden change?

Because if that is the case, these women may have not known that their husbands or boyfriends were shitbags to begin with.

Although I am personally hoping that the signs are obvious from the beginning so I don't make the mistake of having a relationship with one of these fuckers.

No. 46568

>>46556

dread is making your girlfriend think you're going to leave her for another girl if she isn't your personal servant. but yeah, everything else about your post is right.

No. 46572

>>46554
Exactly. If you browse around the Married Red Pill subreddit, you will start to notice that a lot of the posts start with a variation of "I swallowed the red pill a few weeks ago, and at first it was great. My wife was super attentive and was always available for sex. But now she's saying that she doesn't trust me, and she wants a separation/divorce! How do I pass this shit test?"

Some of them will even say that their marriages were perfect until they started using trp tactics. Now their wives are closed off, talking to lawyers, staying with their parents, or crying and asking why they are only wanted for sex.

No. 46573

>>46538
No, from what I've read, they literally believe that it is in a woman's biological makeup to become aroused at the concept of their male partner being desired by other women. They believe that it shows evolutionary value (I could be passing my genes to ANYONE, but I have chosen you).

They think they have cracked the code to making women want them. They think they are playing into a woman's evolutionary drive, despite anything she might say or do. Because you can't trust what she say, you see! Because even she doesn't understand her biological urges. And her words and actions have been morphed through socialization to suit a feminized society.

So you could walk up to your spouse and say "Please, you have to stop treating me like garbage! I don't trust you anymore!" and they will think "ya but…you're still here. This is what you want at a DNA level."

No. 46590

>>46573

that's funny because I always thought it was the other way around - women are the ones who choose who they mate with our of possible suitors and since you can't tell when a woman is fertile/menstruating she could theoretically secretly have child with whoever she wants - physical anthropology

No. 46593

>>46590
In the animal world thats usually how it goes, right? Many male species of animals are more colorful so they can attract a mate. These idiots have it backwards.

No. 46605

>>46590
>>46593
Exactly. Plus (and this is the more sinister undercurrent of this philosophy), we have to remember that their goal isn't to spread their genes, it is to control their partner. Part of this "dread game" display of showing attention to other women, disappearing for hours on end, flirting with other in front of their spouse, etc is also to show them "look at how easy it would be for me to cheat on you. you better give me a reason to stick with you". Then, when the women start to be more attentive in reaction to the sudden change in their husbands' behaviour, the husbands think "see, it works! I demonstrated my value, and here she is, loving me more than ever!"

No. 46823

>>46605
trp = abuses tactics 101
wow

No. 46827

>>46605
Why are the trp guys frequently recognizable by their writing style? (not even necessarily on trp matters). They just seem unnecessarily verbose, like to draw obvious or pointless analogies, and come across as douchey (shock, I know) or overly serious.

No. 46852

>>46568
Nope, her description is more correct.

>>46590
>>46593
Not defending TRP but you guys sound retarded. That's not how biology works in larger mammals and primates at all.

No. 46895

>>46827
My theory is that it is a combo of unwarranted self-importance, thinking any discussion is a debate, and their own teachings.

They think they are the only ones who are seeing between the lines. They understand the secret to attraction. I think this makes them want to info-dump partly to be like "let me teach you the secrets to the world". Plus, if you're a chick, they think you are incapable of logic or reason, so they have double the incentive to really over explain to our simple female brains.

No. 46896

>>46823
One blogger found an infographic with some markers of abusive behaviour, and wrote a blog on how ironic it was that he found it in a twitter hashtag (#WhyIStayed) for sharing stories of abusive relationships, when he found it to be a great list of things to do for a perfect relationship:
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?543653

Some highlights:
"“not take her concerns seriously” — women love love love when a man charmingly patronizes them.

“say she caused it” — it may be unethical, but then why does it work so well?

“use jealousy to justify actions” — chicks do dig occasional flashes of jealousy, as long as it’s obvious the man is expressing them with complete control over his emotions.

“make her feel bad and guilty” — reframing.

“play mind games” — that’s one way to provoke a vaginal gusher.

“smash things” — occasional bursts of anger, when justified, are cues of sexy male dominance and they do turn on women.

“make her do illegal things” — the ghost of Bonnie chortled.

“threaten to leave her” — dread game."

No. 46932

>>46550
I totally agree. If your partner is attracted to TRP ideas at all, they were probably losers to begin with.

>>46554
Then you chose to date a beta lmao

No. 47957

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DAE read vox day, yarvin, sometimes heartiste and browse mpc forums just for fun? anyone? The brazenly honest perspectives are so hilarious and bizarre. Would recommend.

No. 47968

>>47957
Yeah, I used to read heartiste. Guy is delusional and thinks Western society should go back to absolute rule by monarchy lel.

Sometimes I wonder if he actually believes what he writes, or if he is purposely trying to be edgy and inflammatory to pander to his redpill readers.

No. 47969

kek

No. 47998

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>>47968
whaa, I didn't know Weidmann was neoreactionary now?? At least he never endorsed a body politic beyond vague far-right notion of 'might is right' social darwinist conservatism.. I suppose it isn't that large of a transition from standard red pill right-libertarian to full NRx given the Tytler-cyclic trajectory RPers tend to take (despite the authoritarianism the latter entails- never lost on me, heh.) Admittedly, I don't read PUA as much due to obvious reasons.

>>47969
HOW DARE YOU COME TO CANADA. dead.

No. 48005

>>47957
>>47968
i love hate reading red pill forums and shit. their conspiracy theories are insane.

like remember that governmentsgetgfs guy? he now is voluntarily unemployed, because he doesn't want to support the feminized government through taxes. He also believes that women hate men who have jobs, because a million years ago when he had a job, no one would fuck him. it is the train wreck that never ends, and I can't look away.

No. 48040

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>>48005
Marjan, the croatian sensation, the legend of the loveshys. We were graced by his presence when he posted on his thread here. It was amazing. His foxdick thread was a fucking trip, too, with his deranged masochist poetry stylings. (We'll probably summon him eventually. He obsessively monitors mentions of his name.)

Have you ever browsed sluthate (or as it use to be known by, PUAhate)? marjan posts there. It is a panopticon of warped omega delusions and incel defeatism with a male model obsession thrown in the mix, kind of like a gay-er wizchan. Their experiment/troll threads are top tier, though.

No. 48050

>>48040
I could write an essay on the homoeroticism found in sluthate.

Have you ever read about SH members who are plastic surgery addicts? Some of them believe in a sort of phrenology, and they are trying to correct their faces to the perfect proportions so they can stop being "subhuman".

They will obsess over the tiniest details of the dimensions of someone's face, and if they have a "protruded maxilla" or whatever the fuck, the comments are all "kill yourself subhuman". Like they will put their entire history of their lack of success with women and blame it on how their ears extend out. Thus, they are genetically inferior. And this obvs means that women will never even look at them.

No. 48351

Not to be a huge fag, but a real man wouldn't need a woman to do as he says and act as he wishes. A real man can control a situation if it requires control, but let's life drift anywhere and everywhere, all the while enjoying the ride.

Fucking redpill are boys trying to control shit that don't need controlling

No. 48429

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>>48040
>how much a man smiles and laughs
>how many friends he has
>how many people want to be around him

no shit, people want to date normies not elliot roger autists

No. 64484


No. 64498

I mean they do get lots of women, so they're clearly onto something

No. 64510

>>44925
God I hate feminism and everything SJW under the sun, but I loathe Redpill. They're too far the other way. Anyone who'd use that term unironically I'd have to block them like I would a raging SJW tumblr mess. It's like being conservative leaning and hating a radical liberal, but also hating your own radical right, because fuck insane sexists.

Regressives talk about "cit het male privilege", but Redpillers just talk about "wahh female privilege". It's almost funny how they lack self awareness when they chose a title like Redpill. They're just as sexist and entitled as the ones they bitch and moan about. Such is the life of a radical, though.

No. 64530

>>64484
summary? tl;dr

No. 64540

>>64530
>Two guys run a PUA/redpill podcast
>Do the typical redpill thing: diatribes against women, women are fucksocks, women are illogical children, I fucking hate them etc. Bragging about their sexual encounters.
>Blog pops up out of nowhere doxxing the two men
>Nothing happens for a few weeks, then a fake account posts it to facebook
>spreads like wildfire
>shit hits the fan
>Their sexual encounters have enough information that people in their hometown can recognize which women they are talking about
>They owned a coffee shop together - all of their employees quit at once.
>Business partners stop selling their coffee
>People picket outside their shop
>Their mom, sisters, and Grandma read all the things they wrote
>"Abloobloo I'm so sorry, I was just bitter, we will donate our profits to a rape prevention centre!"
>Rape centre rejects the money lel
>tl;dr they were cocky retards who thought they could never be found out and now their lives are ruined

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>>64484
Oh fuck, that's lovely.

No. 64576

>>64540
Oh, I've read this before. But thanks anyways.

No. 64580

>>64484
What, so they changed their whole perspective on the world right after people found out about them? Doubt it.

No. 64581

>>64580
This. They're only sorry they got caught.

No. 64590

>>64540
I'm really confused how this guy managed to sleep with so many women. Over 40, really? But he looks like a creepy pedophile. Did he rape them? Was he lying? Honestly, I'm questioning what's going on in the mind of any woman who would sleep with such a deranged loser.

Here is the list of girls he slept with:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150409222813/https://holisticgame.wordpress.com/

Also, I think if a girl wrote the same comments about her male sexual partners then no one would care.

tbh tho, I think a lot of the women who protested him probably would have slept with him earlier for some reason. Why, I have no idea. People here say they hate red pillers but would probably sleep with them anyways lol.

No. 64592

>>44930
Yeah theyre definitely self aware. Theres a reason they avoid using buzzwords outside of that subreddit that would give them away unlike SJWs/Tumblrites.

No. 64593

>>64590
>Also, I think if a girl wrote the same comments about her male sexual partners then no one would care.

Really? You must be a male.

No. 64625

>>64590
Have you ever read the "field reports" on trp? They reek of bullshit.

No. 64628

>>45852
Purplepilldebate is hilarious. Some of my favorite paranoid redditors post there a lot.

Like the guy who thinks that even babies are hypergamous.

No. 64630

>>64628

What?

No. 64631

>>64630
There's a guy on PPD who is so paranoid about women, that he wrote an essay about how even little baby girls hate betas, and want to trade up in life.

No. 64636

>>64631

I didn't believe you, so I went there myself. It's real. That's some strong kool-aid.

No. 64638

>>64631

> Ever notice how babies cry around fat depressed

> losers and wriggle off the sofa as if desperate to
> get away from him? Well, perhaps babies are
> hypergamous too. Especially female babies.

Well.

No. 64645

>>64638
My favorite part was when he said babies can sense the essence of a man

No. 64646

>>64625
I've read them, yes. I think some of them are lying. However, I do think some of them are real, just not totally accurate. They got laid but not in the way they said they did.

I don't think all Red Pill guys are kissless neckbeard virgins. I actually met one Red Pill guy irl, he was pretty tall, decent look, and actually had a lot of girls over him because of his height. I don't think it's THAT hard to get laid as a guy, especially if you are decent looking and confident/asshole-ish.

No. 64649

>>64646
I was with you until
>confident/asshole-ish

You don't need to be an asshole is get laid. Come on now.

No. 64650

>>64631
Another fav PPD moment of mine was when some users were trying to figure out the ~sexual market place with math.

I really wish I could find the post. Fuck, it was great.

No. 64664

>>46020
I actually read this whole thing and while you do make some interesting points, I'd still like to point out
>male ego is more fragile because men have performance anxiety
>it's bad that women shame men the same way they shame other women because, unlike women, men have fragile egos
>we deserve special treatment!

kek
Then you say only women are guilty of victimization? Yeah, nah, go cry in a corner you virgin beta turboloser.

inb4 "tu quoque"
You people don't know the first thing about rhetoric holy shit

No. 64668

>>64650

I'm kinda horrified tbh. I haven't been browsing the undercurrent of the internet in a while, so I'm learning all sorts of surprises. It's like everyone's gone mad. Was it this bad in late 2000's?

No. 64687

>>64649
You don't have to be an asshole to get laid, but it doesn't hurt either. A lot of girls, myself included, like assholes. I don't really sexually care for guys who are progressive and super nice. And I know feminist girls who would rather go after frat bros than regular guys. However, I think the same is true for guys - sexually, they prefer mean girls over nice ones.

No. 64694

>>64687
>However, I think the same is true for guys - sexually, they prefer mean girls over nice ones.
"No"
>>64646
>I don't think it's THAT hard to get laid as a guy, especially if you are decent looking and confident/asshole-ish
Think of all the guys you dont notice, those who dont stand out to you. Those guys aren't getting laid. It's just that when you think of men, you only think of the ones you pay attention to who are attractive themselves.
My theory at least. I'm average looking and have never had any female attention

No. 64696

>>64687
>A lot of girls, myself included, like assholes
My personal experience says otherwise. No girl I know likes assholes. They tend to prefer outgoing, sure (though many either don't gaf or think shy, normal functional non-autistic shy, is cute), but not assholes or even asshole-ish.

I personally like my men pedantic/arrogant (towards certain people, not everyone) but I've never met anyone with similar taste. And even then, that's not really being an asshole.

>>64694
To be tbh I spend enough time on the internet to notice that most guys who aren't get laid at all, ever, have anxiety problems coupled with learned helplessness (caused by the outcomes of said anxiety). It's not very common for average neurotypical guys to be permavirgin.

No. 64699

Do you guys think that we should set up a redpill thread in /snow/? I feel bad for redpillers more than anything, but the idea of having a thread making fun of them on an imageboard for women is kind of nice.

Also, the most gratifying thing to do on reddit is to ping gaylubeoil on a sub that isn't dedicated to trp and doesn't have many rules and bully him. He usually replies if you try to start shit. It's soooooooooo gratifying if you're good with insults.

No. 64702

At what age do women start looking at male virgins with disdain or consider it a negative? I'm 24 and I feel like it's too late for me tbh

No. 64704

>>64699

I do.

>>64702

This isn't the thread for that. Go to the /r9k/ thread.

No. 64717

>>64704
Done

There is now a redpill thread on /snow/.

No. 64733

>>64696
Exactly. I have never known anyone who actually wanted to be treated like shit by their partner. Lbr.

I want a boyfriend who actually enjoys being around me.

No. 64734

>>64717
Oh baby

No. 64736

>>64625
Definitely bullshit. Only cucks would believe this shitty fanfic.

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No. 64822

>>64717
aaaaaaaaaand it's back on /b/

No. 65116

>>64733
I've never actually met a girl who likes assholes either. Most of the girls I know who were dating assholes only found out they were assholes later on in the relationship (by finding out they were cheating, abusive, aggressive, etc etc.) and they broke up with them soon after.

When guys are assholes to me for no reason, I don't even want to be friends with them. I don't associate with them really and I'd definitely never seek one out to date.

No. 65202

>>65116
Many assholes do a good job of hiding it. They can be total dicks to other people, but act sweet, caring, and normal during the first months of a relationship.

No. 65243

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Kek

No. 91230

Sorry for bumping this thread but I'm curious about everyone's opinions on Red Pill Women? I don't think it deserves it's own thread although they are somewhat separate.

I was looking at the subreddit and reading some of their blogs and honestly, it made me a little depressed. They believe that their "captain" should have the final decision on everything and handle all their finances, that you shouldn't have "masculine" interests and you should be 100% feminine, and that "attracting a mate" and being his babymaker/wife is the endgoal in life and the most important. It all just seems so…out there.

No. 91232

>>91230
Redpillwomen or redpillwives?

No. 91238

>>91230
That kind of life sounds like my worst nightmare.

PS don't people think that most of the frequent users on rpw are trp sock accounts?

No. 91239

>>91232
I'm loving the drama that came with that schism.

No. 91242

>>91230
Lurk moar. There are comments are red pill women at the top of this thread.

No. 91245

>>91238
Probably, but the fact that any women would believe in and go for that lifestyle is weird to me.

>>91242
So? I read them and I'd like a little bit more discussion that that.

No. 91246

>>91245
>but the fact that any women would believe in and go for that lifestyle is weird to me.

I honestly think there are more socks in those subs than real women. Just look at the writing style.

No. 91254

Speaking of redpill women, what happened with /tradfem/? Did they ever go through with the tumblr raid?

No. 91256

>>91254
I don't remember them plotting a tumblr raid, care to elaborate?

No. 91258

>>91256
Nevermind, turns out it was just one person suggesting it: https://8ch.net/tradfem/res/771.html

No. 91261

>>91258
Lol pathetic

No. 91264

>>91230
>>91230

I frequent that board and I think you've gotten it really really wrong. It's about attracting a decent man who will ultimately fulfil a traditional role for you, not steamroll your opinion. You give advice and offer help in every way you can and in return your man cares and respects you as you respect him. It's an equal footing partnership without you nagging or reminding a dude to do his job; you are patient and hardworking and trust that he'll do it. Inspiring the best in each other in a sense.

I love that idea personally and a lot of it is about improving yourself and hermit mode to work hard to celebrate your femininity and intelligence something that appeals.

IDK you make it sound cultish and it's really not. It's about self improvement aimed at women who want to find a decent husband and most are really into empowerment that comes from trusting in a more traditional love. I see no problem with it and we aren't hurting anyone. Seriously. It's not repillman at all and it doesn't argue for being a doormat (quite the opposite) I see so many posts about low tier men and how you shouldn't date them and how you should consider and be choosy about your intended husband.

Sounds like pretty standard and good advice for women.

No. 91265

>>91264
Still sounds like a nightmare tbh.

Why is it called "red pill women" if you don't want to attract "red pill men"? Shouldn't you guys be a perfect match?

No. 91266

>>91230
Also it never says anything about not having masculine interests. It pretty much says you should LEARN about what your bf/husband likes and learn to enjoy it like he does but never insist that you always have to be apart of it which is fine. Interests together and apart are good things.

I honestly don't know where you've read some of this stuff. It's like you've skimmed and taken away this first pass offense because it's not what you consider a relationship to be and not actually READ it.

No. 91267

>>91265
Because that's what it calls? Redpill refers to not wanting to go with the usual mentality.

Also, redpill dudes who come to the website and state 'I am a dude' are SO not welcome. They get downvoted to all hell. I'm not sure why this is a nightmare?

I literally love cooking, being female, dressing up and being beautiful and smart and a good partner for my bf. I want a traditional relationship where I'm a woman and he's a man and we bring out the best in each other.

No. 91268

>>91265
Also to add, a lot of the women who are apart of it are mostly working women who are in higher pay grades and are having trouble attracting men who they consider marriage material. There are like a billion posts on that subject. It's not all homemakers Stepford wives and even then being a homemaker isn't a terrible option if that's what you CHOOSE to do.

No. 91269

>>91266
https://www.forums.red/p/RedPillWomen/1188/frequently_asked_questions
>What are Red Pill Women?
>Short answer: Self-aware women that work to identify their weaknesses, stifle their inner Bitch, and increase their female sexual value as much as possible in order to attract (or keep) a good RP man.

Such empowerment. Many self improvements.

No. 91271

>>91269

So you consider being an insufferable bitch a good trait in a woman? Okay, gotcha. Also, finding your weaknesses and improving them isn't self improvement? Que? Your lack of logic there is astoundingly bad.

No. 91272

>>91271
Well I don't think that I'm genetically predisposed to have an "inner bitch" in the first place.

No. 91274

>>91269
From the "long answer" part to the same question:
>We work to minimize our negative characteristics (shit testing, hypergamy, sexual manipulation etc)

I also don't think any of those characteristics are somehow natural to me because I am a woman.

But do your thing. Call me when you've "hit the wall" at 22 and your rp man moves on to another plate.

No. 91276

>>91271
That isn't very feminine language. What would your captain think if he heard you say such a thing!

No. 91277

>>91274
Well, I'm in my late twenties and married six years to a man who doesn't even know what any of this is in the first place. Our relationship is just naturally kinda traditional in a way.

I really don't have any beef with people who don't want this kind of relationship, but seriously, it works for a lot of people and I think there are some misconceptions.

If you don't believe you have these sorts of weakness like being passive aggressive or snappy or you overthink great for you, some of us do and want to be better at controlling it.

No. 91279

>>91232
Redpillwives seems to be the most batshit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWives/comments/4hx8is/5_baby_steps_to_deshrewing_things_you_can_employ/

>You now live to please him. This influences how you dress, what you serve for dinner (breakfast, lunch, dessert… you get the point), how you act in the bedroom, what you watch on TV, how you greet him when he comes home from work, your nail color, everything.

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>>91267
>I literally love being female

No. 91281

>>91276
Probably laugh because it's about traditional marriage not being an uptight asshole? I swear all the fucking time. Where are you getting this idea that you become some sort of robot? This is literally aimed at women who have/want a decent husband.

Maybe I'm just utterly confused about why someone chooses to be salty over people who want to have a relationship like this.

No. 91282

>>91280
English isn't mothertongue, but hey. Nice image.

No. 91284

>>91277
But they didn't say "we're trying not to over think or be passive aggressive". The official FAQ page specifically mentions wanting to learn to stop shit testing, hypergamy, and sexual manipulation.

Do you honestly think you need to learn how to not be "hypergamous" and not bail on your husband when a richer/hotter man comes around? Are you that weak?

No. 91286

>>91282
It's not about your writing style, it's the content. You're really transparent

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>>91264
>it's about self improvement!

No. 91288

>>91281
>a relationship like this

Here's a great example of a red pill marriage https://archive.is/3MydW

No. 91289

>>91282
Good answer, fellow female.

No. 91292

>>91290
You can be into kink and not have to turn yourself into your husband's bangmaid.

No. 91293

>>91290
>it was probably a bad idea to open my mouth

Ikr. Has the red pill taught you nothing, female?

No. 91297

>>91290
>I'm heavily into kink as well so they both kinda play hand in hand to that.

Oh. Maybe people would have responded better if you had originally mentioned that it's part of your degradation/submission fantasy instead of normal and sound guidelines on how to conduct your relationship. Get therapy and lose weight btw, no one normal is into BDSM

>>91295

>It's just a partnership that works for me. I'm not some slave to him, it's that I take into consideration his feelings and needs (as he does for me!

This is what normal, healthy relationships are like. It has nothing to do with the red pill.

No. 91298

>>91295
>it's that I take into consideration his feelings and needs (as he does for me!

Most people call that "a normal relationship".

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No. 91301

>>91295
That doesn't sound very "red pill" at all.

>partnership


I thought he was the captain and you are the first mate?

No. 91302

>>91301
Marriage is nothing but a contract anon!

No. 91304

>>91297
Ikr. Like is she saying that being a rpw is like a 24/7 Dom/sub thing?

No. 91305

>>91302
Don't tell my captain about my foolishness in that comment.

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>>91290
>red pill women just advocates self-improvement and healthy relationships!
>i follow RPW because i'm into kink and want to be dominated and abused!

No. 91308

>>91306

>implying bdsm is abuse


Mmmmkay. Go back to your sex negative feminist scumhole.

No. 91312

>>91308
It's fantasizing about being abused. And feminists are usually into it, because they're mentally damaged.

Why did you delete your post?

No. 91316

>>91314
Your best friends tell you that too? If everyone around you is telling you your shit is fucked up maybe the problem is with you, not them.

No. 91317

>>91314
>came to clear up misconceptions about being a red pill woman
>deletes all posts on the subject

This is why you're the first mate and not in charge of anything.

No. 91319

>>91316
I hope her friends get through to her soon. It sounds like she is in some kind of 24/7 red pill-ish bdsm thing. I'm sure they are quite worried.

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No. 91322

>>91279
>your nail color
What are the favourite shades of the redpillers? I'm assuming red, but a bright red or a dark red?

No. 91327

>>91322
Im sure they would think red is too whorish or something.

I bet they would choose pink for maximum femininity.

No. 91746

>>91267
>traditional relationship

So you want to get beaten every night when he comes home from work?

No. 91747

>>91269
Inner bitch sounds like codeword for a woman who can actually think for herself and speak her mind. Sheesh.

No. 91753

>>91746
Sort of off-topic: are there any good documentaries about gender roles and marriages and whatnot in the '50s? I don't like how alt-right babbies like to romanticize the era but I don't feel like my own opinions are any more valid than theirs since my knowledge about that time is presumably just as vague as theirs.

No. 91765

>>91753
I have no idea. If you want to read about modern use of those kind of "traditional values" there are lots of blogs out there about people who escaped the quiverful lifestyle, and other kind of religious groups like that.

No. 91766

>>91753
Well you could always talk to your grandmother, or other female family members who lived through that time.

I don't really need a documentary to explain to me how being a full time cook, maid, nanny, and sex machine, all with a smile on your face would be a fucking nightmare. Not having any personal income, not being able to get a divorce because of social stigma, no job, the list of bullshit goes on.

No. 91879

>>91766
>Well you could always talk to your grandmother, or other female family members who lived through that time.
No can do. I am chinese and so is my family.

No. 91884

That reddit board is just full of PUAfags, they should pick a different name. Being redpilled is knowing the truth about the Synagogue of Satan, hedonistic sleeping around with sluts is bluepill untermensch behavior.

No. 92103

>>91879
Idk then man. Google it or some shit.

No. 92458

What the fuck is this "low inhibition" thing I'm seeing all over lately?

No. 92469

>>64820
hey fuck off, taquitos are good you shit

No. 92497

>>91753
>>91879
Read Anna Karenina, if you like books. It's a good story and the bits that follow the female protagonist portray the helplessness of women in ye old times pretty well.

No. 92536

>>92458
Post examples so we can mock them

No. 188337

New Hampshire rep. Robert Fisher has been outed as a founder of The Red Pill.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4448902/Robert-Fisher-Red-Pill-creator-vows-stay-office.html

Creepy how people like this can get into power

No. 188341

>>91753
Call the Midwife is kind of flowery at times but it's based on a real nurse's memoirs and touches on the topic of gender roles in the 50s/60s all the time throughout the show. What happens when a man cheats on his wife with another woman, when an unmarried woman gets pregnant, when a man beats his wife, when the husband gets caught having sex with another man, having to ask permission to go back to work or do most things we take for granted… It's pretty shit, all things considered.

Yet redpillers somehow always forget that they'd have to be the ones bringing in the money and working their hides off to provide for the whole family, which is just not possible if you're a neckbeard who happens to live in 2017. The family would be catching rats to survive, especially with a child on the scene.

The show also mentions the pressure put on men to do good by their wives and provide for the family, often leaving their dreams behind. One guy even tries to kill himself when he finds out he can't go to university because his girlfriend's 'in the family way'.

No. 188342

>>188341
I just happened to see this scrolling through, don't want anything to do with this thread but I binge watched all the seasons of this and I really do recommend it. Seasons 1-3 especially and just how bleak it all was but as you said here, shows both sides of the story mostly when it comes to men and woman. The pressure of one man needing to get work by his wife to feed the soon to arrive baby causes them to overlook him having diabetes and ends in him dieing.

No. 188345

>>188337

This is a pretty big deal.
Obviously the MSM is too busy reporting strollers being taken on airlines to fucking care that we have this corrupt misogynistic piece of shit in a public position.

No. 188347

>>188337
>>188345
One of his reddit comments:

>When I'm out with friends, including girls, you know EXACTLY what the conversation will entail, it's gossip or fashion, pop culture, trendiness, personal experiences. Nothing abstract. They do not chat in the abstract…when I told myself I thought they were smart, I really had the footnote in the back of my head… smart.. for a woman…But you know what two-way conversation I'm never going to have with a woman is? About how interesting special relativity is. How I consider the free-will argument to be moot because time travel causes paradoxes that render the concept nonsensical. Oh, sure, they'll be interested, or at least act like they are. But there will be no two way conversation…I don't hate women. I just understand what use they are to me.


What the fuckkkk… this is someone who is making laws!

No. 188348

>>188337
>>188345
The archive of his comments.
His favorite type of argument is to use shoddy evolutionary psychology. He's a smug, stupid asshole trying so hard to sound intellectual.

>https://archive.li/Jgtbx#selection-1439.99-1439.106


>>188347
>this is someone who is making laws!

It's not exactly a solid consolation, but it literally takes nothing to get a seat in the NH house of reps.
It pays $100 a year, he gets a fancy public official license plate (for a fee of $8), free tolls, and I guess compensation for mileage in travel.
To boot it's only a two-year term, a revolving door.
AND NOTICE–his comment history tapered off two years ago, right around the time he would have taken the position. He stopped posting to reddit because he knew he'd be watched and ran the risk of being caught saying offensive shit during his term.




I want this to blow up.

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>>188348
Posting again but yep, he stepped down from being a mod two years ago exactly when he got involved as a public figure. That's why he didn't reveal the reason. Didn't wanna be caught.
Shitweasel.

No. 188381

>>188347
These men should just fuck each other and get it over with. That or date transwomen.

No. 188416

>>188414
He was using the same email and alias for his personal websites/facebook and TRP's backup form. Snopes explains it in greater detail http://www.snopes.com/2017/04/25/legislator-reddit-redpill-forum/

No. 188629

my boyfriend pulled this trp shit on me and i still feel like he kinda does but obviously won't admit.

No. 188648

>>188629
How did he approached you with it?

No. 188836

I am honestly surprised farmers here do not realize evil and corruption go hand in hand with political power.

No. 188838

There are kernels of truth, but it's an awful way to see the world. I hate what pick up culture does to people, I greatly prefer traditionalists and full blown reactionaries to pick up artists and people who unironically identify as alpha or beta.

No. 188840

I really wonder how sad the life gets when you deeply believe your partner is despicable, that you share nothing with them and you feel like you have to either treat them like a kid or a misbehaving pet.

No. 188847

I'm intrigued in visiting this place just because it astonishes me how removed from reality these people really are but they think it's the opposite. They just use the worst examples of females

A lot of the things they preach are just false or will only work with very specific types of women (the ones they complain about). I'm completely disgusted by men who sleep around and if someone tried to ignore me to get my attention I would drop them. So much garbage advice and toxic bullshit preached as truth on that subreddit.

No. 188856

>>188847
>if someone tried to ignore me to get my attention I would drop them
Or worse, the petty jabs PUAs use in order to get your self esteem down (supposedly). Where I live they'd get sucker punched in the face by even the most insecure woman out there, but I guess that's why they cry about Mediterranean women having a 'princess complex' and pining after pure, submissive Slav waifus. Ew.

No. 188863

>>188858
>most eastern euro women aren't the submissive stereotype
Didn't think they were for a second, I'm just repeating what they're saying. I guess it's believable when you're a fat smelly manlet who thinks women are stupid and gullible. Those are usually the same men whose Ukrainian waifus run for the hills, after which they switch to 'women are backstabbing, materialistic whores' instead.

No. 188873

My ex has recently got into this redpill bullshit and it worries me… He's a very considerate person and pleasant to be around, but he's also fragile emotionally and these toxic ideas have been changing his personality for the worse. He always complains about being single but he keeps pushing away potential partners because I guess he think's that's so alpha. The result is of course he's alone, which is a shame since he could easily find a gf by being his sweet self. Oh well, sorry for the blogpost.

No. 188878

>>44925
manipulating people (into having sex with you) is a skill and like any other skill it's possible to learn. The autists that this appeals to will probably never be able to pull it off though.

No. 188879

They remind me of the extreme feminists who believe all men are terrible and exactly the same and get on their high horse about it but the other way around.

No. 188947

>>188879

the mindset these fucks push is actually dangerous though. women can hate men all they want, but they don't actually have the power to change legislature or take away funding like men do. just look at how many misogynistic politicians exist, whose views are obviously inspired by their utter lack of respect for women. i support misandry because in the end it's powerless anyway, so fuck it and fuck men.

No. 188948

I dated a dude who tried acting out TRP bullshit, biggest autismo bf of my life.

No. 188952

>>188947
dang, you're a perfect example of what she was talking about.

No. 188981

>>188947
You don't solve any problems by countering idiot tactics with other idiot tactics.

No. 189018

>>188947
>I support killing all the Jews because it's obviously just nazi rhetoric and they'll never actually do it, so fuck it and fuck Jews
>I support Trump because everything he says is obviously marketing copy and he'll never actually ban any immigrants, so fuck it and fuck immigrants

No. 189019

>>188629
>>188948
What did they do and how did it go wrong?

No. 189064

>>188947
What makes you hate men? There are plenty of reasons to and I don't want to argue, I just think it can be interesting to hear about.

No. 189202


No. 189226

Anyone have caps of GayLubeOil's gf? He posted a cringy video of her and apparently she was "over the wall" haggard, ironically

No. 189265

>>189202
The actual fuck
>If you are having a good relationship then you're doing it wrong
I know this a shit reaction post but I just need to express my disbelief at this. What are the rate of redpillers among guys? I can't imagine accidentally dating one of these

No. 189271

>>189265
Don't worry, they make their presence known.

No. 189418

It's pretty pathetic, but I get the appeal. All these dudes really need is to be told that they need to hit the gym regularly and socialize like normies though.

No. 189463

>>188347
>How I consider the free-will argument to be moot because time travel causes paradoxes that render the concept nonsensical.

mad lel at him considering this a deep abstract thought when it's something a 13 year old would come out with having watched futurama

>>188947
>implying there isn't legislature that damages men to appeal to female voters, usually in the family court system

although ironically the most anti-male legislature is things usually defended by men themselves like male circumcision being legal or the draft

No. 189466

>>189418
Funny thing is, men don't need to hit the gym at all.
Plenty of women are raised and taught to accept, if not actively seek out, fat men.
Take shoeonhead, mystery.jpg, etc.
Our thin to average female lolcows have dated/are dating some hamplanet man.

All a guy has to do is not have a shit personality.
That's it. And most can't even be assed to do it because they're so used to having whatever parental figure give them anything they want.
Most of these incels aren't even fat anyway, they're socially awkward bean poles who look like the next Adam Lanza and are super fucking nasty.

No. 189482

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>>189202
I was reading through the comments and found this gem
>ok but after i become this superior male why would i want to spend time and energy with a being such as the female you people portray?
>don't ask questions bro

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No. 190738

>>189466
This post made me feel bad :'(

To be honest your personality isn't easy to change, and the people who have a good personality (confident, funny) usually didn't do a lot to earn it. For the most part it's sort of the opposite, where confidence is a litmus test for peer approval and familial support. A lot of painfully awkward people come out of broken homes or extended bullying situations. Others never had a friend and don't know where to begin with talking to people.

For the most part, people don't really have much sympathy for sexual failures; guys accuse girls of being land whales and girls accuse guys of being virgins. Still, I don't think there has to be a fifth as much enmity between sexes as you currently find online.

I probably just shouldn't be here. I'd like to understand women better and humanize them more, but I just get defensive and write shit like this.

No. 190750

>>45301
You are right.

But I feel like it's still very hard to hang out with /r/ men. They either have self-esteem issues - to the point of engaging competitive mode when, as a woman, y'are trying to discuss how you may sometimes feel the same sort of self-esteem issue -, or they have anger issues - which disables any type of rational discussion/dialogue. It's like impossible for you to be more ~sad~ or ~less understood~ because of their defensiveness. Heck, it's almost a fantasy.

No. 190767

>>190738
anon i sympathize but i think you're in the wrong place if you want to see women in a more positive light. this is, at its core, a gossip site that exists for people (girls, predominantly) to anonymously talk shit. speaking as an anonymous shit-talking girl myself, this place is a bit of a hub for the lowest common denominator. all in all, it might be a good to get to know the women who are already in your social sphere.
your intentions seem good. i hope you find what you're looking for and i'm sorry your experiences have led you here. sage for bleeding heart

No. 190782

>>190738
>This post made me feel bad
That was my post.
It said that men don't have to do nearly as much work on their bodies in order to attract the opposite sex.
That makes you feel bad?
You CANNOT be this much of a pansy just because you're insecure that your personality might be flawed. So what? Personalities aren't physically visible. You either work on it or fake it til you make it.
If you really can't socialize then you need to seek out behavioral or cognitive therapy. I come from an abused, divorced home and find either hardly an excuse for a shit personality.
Good personalities don't just spring from the ground, and you're mistaken if you think people don't actively try everyday to be good even when they don't want to.
>I'd like to understand women better and humanize them more
Women are already human. What could you possibly not understand to any degree?
>I just get defensive and write shit like this
Because you think perfectly controllable things are out of your reach when they're not. So when people here say truths that strike a nerve with your inadequacies, it's your natural human defense mechanism to recoil. Again, another personality trait that can be changed to accept criticism–not automatically blame everything and everyone else.

No. 190785

>>190782
The sad thing is that men care the least about how women look. As long as they are not obese or skin'n'bones. I think most of the issues come from insecurity and vanity. Just peek into the fashion or /fit/ threads here on /ot/.

The extra attention usually comes from women making themselves look more 'easy' than anything else. If you make yourself stand out, you WILL stand out.

No. 190793

>>190785
>The sad thing is that men care the least about how women look.
Is this bait? Am I being memed?

Ever heard the phrase men age like wine, women age like milk? That's a refill staple. It's not about personalities or maturity, it's about looks. A woman who isn't good looking is considered worthless, because women are valued for their looks alone. Redpillers say women lose their "sexual market value" as they age for precisely that reason.

You can't both believe in the red pill and say men don't care about how women look.

No. 190797

>>190793
While incels are obsessed with their virginity, cows seem to be obsessed with their looks. Each of them seem to want to acquire an athlete's body and dress up like a fashion model.
While the truth is, there are at least two billion women, half of them bellow average looking (duh), who already found a partner without any problem.

Redpillers say a lot of truth, but they, like many others bend it to push their own agenda. You can't argue with numbers, but it is up to interpretation what they mean. While statistics is hard science, sociology isn't.
Take it like politics: listen to both sides of the argument but, it is up to you to make sense of all the information.

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>>190785
>The sad thing is that men care the least about how women look
>Except when they do

No. 190814

>>190782
>It said that men don't have to do nearly as much work on their bodies in order to attract the opposite sex.
>That makes you feel bad?
Having shit social skills has made my life much more painful, and I haven't made friends in years. So, when you say I "just have to fix it" as if it were the most trivial thing to do, and the only reason I've failed is because I'm a manchild who's babied by my parents, then that does make me feel worse, especially when other people agree with you. You're broadcasting blatant disgust, it shouldn't surprise you that it isn't taken as reassuring.

>Good personalities don't just spring from the ground, and you're mistaken if you think people don't actively try everyday to be good even when they don't want to.

I really don't believe this, though. A lot of people put up with others who test their patience, or put thought into dramatic parts of their life, but most socialize pretty naturally and enjoy doing so. Some may have to make concerted efforts to be kind, or honest, but most are pretty laid back about it, at least with people they like. They have to be more thoughtful interacting with people they don't like, but most just solve that by avoidance outside of family situations.

I can understand why people would say income is a reflection of hard work, but only a minority of people have to struggle to develop social competence. It's genuinely bizarre to say funny people earn being funny, or insightful people earn being insightful. Nobody expects you to be fair about who you hang out with, or spend your time with. It's obvious why you would talk to people you enjoy talking to, you don't need to say that social abilities are the result of hard work. When you try to make every method of selection into a fair process you only justify viewing people you personally don't like as objective garbage.

>Women are already human. What could you possibly not understand to any degree?

I really have not had close friendships with women, and would like to understand them better. "Humanize" here means make them sympathetic to me, not literally discover whether or not they're people.

No. 190820

>>190814
>So, when you say I "just have to fix it" as if it were the most trivial thing to do
Nobody said it's trivial or easy, but why should you get a dick pass for being a failure?
We tell mentally ill people to go on medication and seek therapy.
We tell fat people to exercise and lose weight.
You can't blame your parents forever.
Nobody is going to be reassuring to you about anything if by the time you're a mid-adult you haven't done anything about your issues while complaining about them.

You can't even tell yourself honestly that you've tried getting help.

>but only a minority of people have to struggle to develop social competence

Socialization is a work in progress for everyone. If it were so simple then there'd be no such need for behavioral sciences, sociology, language therapists, psychologists, etc.
You literally pick up socialization from other people and your surroundings. A humorous person wasn't born funny. An insightful person wasn't born insightful (children and teens are actually quite selfish, fyi).
Be it bizarre or difficult, I don't see how wallowing in self-pity as an incel will help you.

>"Humanize" here means make them sympathetic to me

You meant "empathetic," homes.

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>>190785
>The sad thing is that men care the least about how women look
Hahahahaha… I've lost count of all those fugly looking guys who find nonexistent flaws on average or even pretty girls for "big noses", "no ass", "no boobs", "male voice". Men are the ones who nitpick the most, even when they're so ugly they should never speak up about that, especially then.
Also, serious question: I've noticed that men tend to be super confident even when they're busted, when on the other side I see a lot of pretty girls with low self esteem, who seriously believe they're ugly. Why?

No. 190823

>>190820
>You literally pick up socialization from other people and your surroundings.

not that anon but people with autism have a legit excuse. alot of incels are on the spectrum somwehre. if anon has it, it could be why he's struggling, autism anons social development skills will plateau after a certain point and just stop developing. that said, people shouldn't use it as a crutch. autism or no, you have to try hard and fail and fall on your ass and get back up forever until you can be happy. it's not animu, you can't just be a boring piece of shit and have people care about you.

No. 190824

>>190820
>We tell mentally ill people to go on medication and seek therapy.
To be honest I did this for a while. Like eight antidepressants one after another, and at best they made me feel numb to everything. Benzos helped, but made it hard to work and shouldn't be taken for long. Antipsychotics helped a lot, but there's piling evidence they caused brain shrinkage so I stopped taking them. Psychology was expensive and did nothing.

The mental health system can't fix everybody. I should spend time with people consistently, I genuinely should not talk or think about my problems much more than I already do.

>Socialization is a work in progress for everyone. If it were so simple then there'd be no such need for behavioral sciences, sociology, language therapists, psychologists, etc.

Everybody is progressing in their personality and social life, but all of those soft sciences don't exist merely so people can be better at interpersonal interaction, they address broader social issues or extreme personalities. Psychology isn't about helping everybody, it's about understanding humans out of scientific curiosity and recognizing and fixing exceptional dysfunction.

>You literally pick up socialization from other people and your surroundings. A humorous person wasn't born funny

Yes, but most people did not work hard to have friends at six years old, or twelve, or sixteen, or even twenty. It's common for adults to struggle more with friendships, but most people socialize at least smoothly enough that they come into adulthood capable of talking to people without concerning them. Having well developed social skills generally does not reflect personal struggle or years of hard work, it mostly reflects a healthy upbringing, the absence of neurological problems, and continuous social integration. It's not easy to change.

I'm not saying you should fuck anybody out of pity, I guess I'm just being defensive.

>You mean "empathetic," homes

You right.

No. 190827

>>190808
'Least' and 'do' are not opposites. And 'least' is not equal to zero.

>>190821
Those fuggly men you mentioned are just bitter like the cows in /pt/. They need someone to berate to feel better about themselves.

>difference in confidence

Hormones. Men are more competitive while women are conformists. Except the exception ofc, before I get shut down for generalizing in 'generalization the thread'.
Because of difference in behavior women and men have completely different social dynamics. Men socialize into a hierarchical world, they live their whole lives knowing, and contesting their place. This competition means that there will be times when they 'win' and times when don't. And I think this constant struggle gives them confidence. "There's always next time" and other cliches are not empty words for them.
It doesn't help that we raise our boys to be strong while teach or girls to be emotional.

https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702
Self-made-man is an interesting book on male societies from a female point of view. I haven't finished it but good so far.

>>190793
>Ever heard the phrase men age like wine, women age like milk?
That can be traced back to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sex_ratio#Gender_imbalance

No. 190829

>>190823
>not that anon but people with autism have a legit excuse
I don't presume every person I reply to is autistic.
It's been griped before that when women assume all incels are on some level of the spectrum or mentally ill, we're being oppressive feminazis.
So I try not to.

>>190824
>antidepressants
>antipsychotics
>Benzos
Are you now trying to say you're legitimately mentally ill, or that you are just socially awkward, or both?
What exactly do you have?
You're moving the goal posts bigly when you start with "I don't have a good personality and socializing is hard," and switch to "Well actually I am mentally ill and probably can't socialize."
Who knows, maybe you are doomed to be alone forever considering you think cognitive behavioral therapy and speech therapy are "soft sciences" that "don't deal with interpersonal reactions"–not true btw and you should look into these.

The truth is you need both your medication and social interaction to get better. That's all there is to it.
>but most people did not work hard to have friends at six years old, or twelve, or sixteen, or even twenty
I agree with you about childhood friendships. Only because gradeschool kids are mostly controlled by their parents, including who becomes their playmates.

But middle school, high school, and college aged kids making friends easy? Is that your perspective as an outsider who's never made the friends before to know that it's not that simple? Deep down you know a lot of people struggle in their formative years and that isn't quite true.

>>190827
>And 'least' is not equal to zero.
It was pointing out your hypocrisy when you said how men supposedly care "the least" about looks as you eliminated overweight and too thin women from the dating pool. It's a significant group to exclude for being supposedly "the least" unbiased about looks.
That's right after we just discussed how women are conditioned by society to accept out of shape or fat men.

Now I WILL say, for the purposes of just getting their dicks wet, men don't care about looks as much as women do assuming the women only want a fuck as well.
But for relationships? Men are picky as fuck and in addition expect their women to be proxy mothers ie. being able to balance his time, domestic chores, and work (y'know, just to prove we're not golddiggers!).

>That can be traced back to gender imbalances

Nobody uses that phrase in a modern setting with the context that there's a gender imbalance in society. They're using it to devalue a woman based on her looks regardless of how little or many more are out there.

No. 190830

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I used to read redpill for the lolz but it does contain some decent advice about some things, mostly about forming decent social habits and handling some social situations.

What people need is curiosity and confidence. Be afraid, but don't let that stop you every time. Sometimes you just need to immerse yourself in groups of people, different kinds of people, new people you don't know, to open up new friendships and possibily even sex and relationships.

And this is just the advice of a 31 year old apprentice wizard…

The road to improvement is always there, it never goes away, it just waits for you to walk on it…

No. 190870

I think it can be good in doses for men who don't have a man card, and have trouble being manly/are total pushovers. I stay on redpilledwomen/wives, but print out good posts on theredpill to give to my husband when I think he could use some assurance in his manliness/that it's okay to be the one leading the relationship. Modern day men aren't really taught like they used to be when it comes to interpersonal relationships, and I really prefer gender roles, I feel liberated in a traditional marriage. It's not for everyone, but I think theredpill can definitely help men that have been emasculated by our society if they cherry pick. Their recommended books are great, though. I really enjoyed reading The Manipulated Man and The Surrendered Wife. The posters can be a bit much/aggressive but most people who don't lurk have something to prove/chip on their shoulder.

No. 190873

>>46212
eh, it's worked on me. It will only work though when a man is goal oriented, is attractive personally and physically, is funny, and can be someone to look up to.etc. It doesn't work with boring dudes who don't put anything into themselves. Why the hell would someone all of a sudden want to fuck some homely looking, boring as bread man just because he bragged about flirting with the secretary at his proctologist? That dude's gf would probably just get mad. Those types of men are usually the ones to post and actually take literally everything on trp seriously & put it into action. VS someone taking small notes on the side, enacting a changed form of what they took notes on. When our marriage got kinda stale he started working out, gaining new hobbies and going out with workmates at night - this made me want to make myself better and more interesting as well. Only when I started losing weight, took some non-credit courses and began making the meals again did he spend more time at home. Dread doesn't necessarily have to be super hardcore - like fucking other women, it can be as subtle as working out more or saying a girl has nice hair on the street. I suggest dread-lite to guys - the idea is good but the way trp goes about it only works on women who are sex reactionary/shallow.

That's how I feel about it as a whole. The people can be cringy, the ideas can be cringy, but there are REALLY REALLY rough diamonds in there sometimes.

No. 190875

>>46491
you know when you do something bad, but go out of your way to come up with some sort of way to make someone else the reason that it happened? That's hamstering. It's a way to turn everything negativer around on someone else. "The hamster is spinning/her hamster is in it's run," etc is a way to say that a wife is trying to argue with the husband and blame him for it, etc. It has some place in reality, my mother does it a whole lot - usually histrionics do this, but I'm sure you know someone who fucks up and blames it on others/tries to make themselves the victim.

No. 190888

I never paid attention to trp, but wandering here has made me realize that my ex boyfriend pulled this dread game shit on me. At the time, I thought he just wanted new pussy, since we weren't having as much sex due to me being depressed, and not being very attracted to him as I used to. He had this whole flirting with others and telling me about his new attractive friend and how into him she was,but now I realize it was probably all a ruse since a friend told me afterwards he regretted treating me like that, I guess he didn't expect I'd dump his autistic ass. Sorry for blog but it blew my mind, thanks cows.

No. 190889

>>190873
The issue with dread is that it's emotional manipulation, they're trying to get their partner to be more interested by making them scared.

Working out and developing new hobbies might make your partner feel like they want to do stuff too, which reinvigorates the relationship, but when you do those things with the intention of making your partner scared you'll leave them or cheat, you're a fucking trash person.

It's the difference between having a discussion where you both try to figure out how you did something wrong that led to an issue so you can proceed to fix it in future, and having a conversation where you try to get your partner to admit to being in the wrong so you don't have to take responsibility and to make them feel bad.

Dread is an absolutely terrible thing to do, and honestly won't work the majority of the time, because as you said, people just get mad when you treat them badly, and when they aren't that into the relationship to start with, they're just going to dump you, not fall in love all over again or something.

No. 190890

>>190889
>When you do those things with the intention of making your partner scared you'll leave them or cheat, you're a fucking trash person.
This.
And besides, don't incels and MRA types lose their collective shit when women are caught doing this? The hypocrisy is astounding.

No. 191008

>>190827
>Men are more competitive while women are conformists
Except when it comes to beauty or male attention, then most women are competitive as fuck

>>190821
Because women are taught from a young age that they're only valuable if they're pretty, and seeing photoshopped/prettier girls all day doesn't help anyone's self esteem

>'Least' and 'do' are not opposites. And 'least' is not equal to zero.

You're thinking of desperate men who'll take whatever they can get. Most normal men care a lot about appearances, if they didn't we wouldn't get "feminists don't shave and that's gross" shit.

>>190824
>Antipsychotics helped a lot, but…
Doesn't matter why, if they helped you should have kept taking them. Which would you rather have, a nice life that ends at age 60 or a shitty life that ends at age 80?
I don't know about you, but if they had a pill that neutralized by assburgers I would have taken them even if it meant dying before I was 50.

No. 191009

>>190830
>wizard
I'll take your virginity, hmu

No. 191010

>>191008
I fucked this post up hard, the third greentext was supposed to be to the other anon… sorry, I'm drunk

No. 191012

>>188858
So I work at a Community College and see a lot of different cultures in the English as a Second Language program. Slav women are by far the most aggressive. It's sorta strange because of a lot of them are there because they married American, but in talking to them, they usually have a lot of trouble in America because they're blunt and headstrong.

No. 191060

>>191012
It's not really surprising though, you kinda have to be like that to get anywhere in Eastern Europe, especially job and administration-wise. If you're a pushover you just get thrown to the back of the queue whilst they give the position to someone they know because you're too meek to cause a scene.
One common sales tactic here is to push push push the customer to buy something so they can't say no. And it gets to you the longer you stay there, so you start thinking everyone in the world is just going to fuck you over if you're not firm with them. Also the concept of discrimination and '-isms' just doesn't exist, you make your own luck. So women get fucked over the most because they're seen as weaker (by men) and for some men it means you can tell them and get them to do whatever if you're persistent enough. So you have to be extra firm with everyone and have no qualms about causing a scene if push comes to shove.

I doubt those women are really bad, they've just been conditioned into fighting tooth and nail for their place under the sun and know no different way to conduct themselves. Ultimately it's a good thing, I think, much better than the American way of whining until you get what you want.

Then again my country is sort of known for our angry, strong-jawed Slav lesbos so it might be different elsewhere. Here it's girls who have fist fights outside of schools, not boys. And women here also consider themselves superior to men because of this. The 'submissive waifu' stereotype has always been weird to me because of that, idk.

No. 191436

>>44956
and this is why attention deprived women wanting to be perfect waifu sex redpill submissive housewifey are still living in their cheap ass apartments in the ghetto and their man has a night shift at mcdonalds to make all their money, and "does extra time" every weekend

No. 191438

>>191060
Which country are you from? I've never heard of a Slav lesbo stereotype.

No. 191443

>>191060
Not to make light of your situation but I think that's actually kind of admirable and wish my country was more like that.

No. 191455

>>191060
>our angry, strong-jawed Slav lesbos so it might be different elsewhere. Here it's girls who have fist fights outside of schools, not boys. And women here also consider themselves superior to men because of this
What country are you from? I'm moving there first thing in the morning

No. 191479

>>191438
It's more of a local thing, internationally most people just know us as criminals/terrorists and… not much beyond that.
>>191443
Eh, lots of bad shit happened here so that's why we have that mentality. Besides, there's still domestic violence and other similar stuff like everywhere else, but that's usually rednecks in the sticks.
>>191455
Serbia, pls bring jobs and money

No. 191483

I know this is slightly derailing the thread but i just wanted to talk about the submissive slav stereotype.

I'm slav.exe living in england and I have had a good 24234345234 encounters with those slavboos that that seem to be abundant in the 'manosphere' community. There guys are fucking disgusting, they see no problem with outright treating me like a god-tier dicksleeve the moment they hear the slightest slip in my accent. Its always 'slav women are great because they know their place' and all that filthy, offensive, condescending patronizing shit that they are absolutely sure that they CAN say because in their eyes they see you as nothing more than a willing slave or someshit. Like I am just fucking waiting for some redpilled pindick to penetrate me so I can pop out pure aryan babies for some sad sad insecure fuckwad.

No, fuck you. I had never in my life met a slav woman that was a housewife, and only met two without a uni degree. My mother used to teach me that men are for 'digging pits' and women are for 'brain work'. Genuinely I think that where I am from there is much more unfair sexism towards men that women. I dont get where the submissive waifu thing comes from but oh boy I hope one of them just gets fucking married to one of those really fucking sexist ones and has to live the rest of his life as a money-drone as every single concept of his life is controlled by the woman he is married to.

No. 191484

>>191479
>Eh, lots of bad shit happened here so that's why we have that mentality.
Personally, I'm really proud of that mentality. Bad shit always happened here. Bad shit happens everywhere. But I have role models, upbringing and culture that make me go all "more turci ne gaz'te oranje" faced with seemingly insurmountable adversity.

No. 191485

>>191483

>I dont get where the submissive waifu thing comes from


Honestly, it's because you guys in general are 1) still completely obsessed with being skinny and hot and wearing a shitton of make up while you allow men to get away with being ugly as shit and put no effort into their experience 2) Still baby your men and do traditional "woman" things. Like, yeah, you have a degree and go to work, and when you come home you guys still do pretty much all of the house work and don't expect them to be big boys and help you do the laundry and feed the baby and 3) Let's be real, the abuse rates in most Eastern European countries are still very high. I know it's more a "both partners beat the shit out of each other in a fight" than "man beats his poor helpless gf/wife" scenario, but the idea of being able to be physically violent is very appealing to many of these guys.

I know these are generalizations, and any slavboo is in for some surprises, but at the same time denial is a powerful thing and the ups are worth the downs to them, so.

No. 191493

>>191483
>>191485
I also think it's that slav/3rd world women marrying for a visa do act out that submissive waifu role while secretly counting down the days until they don't need the husband to stay in the country anymore. That and I guess a language barrier so they can't be as expressive as they'd want to be in English and let their thoughts known. It's common for people to treat english language learners like they're borderline retarded instead of speaking a different language, so the stereotype probably invented itself.

No. 191496

>>191485
Oh boi, you didn't get it. It's all a trap, it's a highgrade bait. You act out your part until you're settled and slowly dig that moneypit. Slavic women are the most coldhearted actresses if they feel like it. Remember, that they're speaking a foreign language so the communication isn't as fluent.
As for the aesthetics, most of them genuinely enjoy it. Some use it as a bait, trapdown a man by looking hot. As for the housework? It depends on the wealth, besides, what's wrong with doing housework? Especially when you know most slavic men are little princes that wouldn't do it properly. Let's also be honest that slavic women get taught that if he tries to beat you into submission, the next time he wakes up is in a casket. I've heard this advice a dozen times from family members. Slavbos don't realise they aren't capable of handling a fullblown slavmama.
>>191493
Like this anon said, it's a countdown.

No. 191508

>>191485
>Obviously women in western countries never wear make-up or dress up.

The west is famous for women that make themselves look dumb to be attractive. Also its weird that there is the idea that a man has to be in charge of something. Like a woman cannot be in charge of the full household but a man can because that makes him a 'man'. If a woman runs everything she's being 'oppressed'.

No. 191525

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>I know it's more a "both partners beat the shit out of each other in a fight" than "man beats his poor helpless gf/wife" scenario, but the idea of being able to be physically violent is very appealing to many of these guys.

My old neighbor's husband came home drunk and tried to beat her but she was faster and beat him up with a broomstick until he passed out lol

Anyways, I am Slavic and I had an American boyfriend while studying abroad. At first he was nice but turned out to be a shithead and even told me how Slavic women are better because they know their place. He thought I was with him because he is le American with money. Needless to say, I broke up with the idiot. I might not earn as much but I am not exchanging my integrity for a stupid manchild with money.

No. 191533

>>191485
>obsessed with being skinny and hot and wearing a shitton of makeup
As opposed to being #THICC with gargantuan fake tits and hair, dressing up like a girl in a porno, overdrawing my lips until I look like a baboon, piling on oodles of foundation, eyebrow makeup and highlighter until I look like a wax sculpture and taking selfies of my butt for Tinder…?
Glass houses etc.

No. 191534

>>191479
>>191060
>strong-jawed Slav lesbos
Moving to Serbia asap

No. 191546

>>191008
>Which would you rather have, a nice life that ends at age 60 or a shitty life that ends at age 80?
I don't care that much about whether I die at sixty or ninety, I don't want to damage my brain. If I was stupid I would be pretty fucked, much worse off than I am now.

>>190829
>maybe you are doomed to be alone forever considering you think cognitive behavioral therapy and speech therapy are "soft sciences" that "don't deal with interpersonal reactions"–
I said they don't exist merely to make people better at interpersonal interactions. I never said they don't deal with interactions. Reading over it I think I was wrong about language therapy.

>But middle school, high school, and college aged kids making friends easy?

A lot of them do. Even plenty of adults find it inconceivable to be friendless. Personality plays a big role here and it's pretty variable.

No. 191556

>>191533
The only difference between what that anon said and what you said is skinny/thicc lol

They probably mean as opposed to popping out kids then becoming obese and haggard because raising kids is "a full time job" and that means you have no time or energy to look after yourself and gaining 60lbs in 2 years is "just getting older" as is the norm in Western countries now. Slavboos see slav women staying hot looking in older age and think it's because they want to serve men when in reality they just like doing that for themselves.

No. 191743

>>45075
How is this any different to right-wing guys of any other race, or other races where right-wing beliefs are the default?

No. 191824

>>45075

no anon, dudes in general are shitty and hypocritical. you wouldn't believe how many supposedly left-wing liberal pro-feminist dudes are just fucking snakes focused on dat pussy.

No. 194310

>>191824
This is why I think women should be careful not to internet argue with anti-feminist by telling them they'll die permavirgins. If you make sex a reward for sharing your political beliefs your politics will attract shitty people.

No. 195445

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No. 195446

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>You're an SJW if you disagree that immigrants are like mentally disabled people

No. 195447

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He also is extremely funny. Note the sarcasm.

No. 195448

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Things that never happened going for one…

No. 195449

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Now imagine all of the above stuttered at you, with a lisp.
While he sets the flowers he bought you on fire.

No. 195535

>>44925
They're obvious losers who are obsessed with women while claiming to hate them at the same time. Disgusting all around. If I found out anyone I knew associated or entertained that type of stuff I would cut them off instantly.

Girls who try to pander to those freaks are almost as bad.

No. 195594

A bunch of whiny entitled pussies who would rather play the victim and take their sexual frustration and insecurities out on women as a whole than take responsibility for their short comings and better themselves, or accept that they simply just aren't good enough for the women ridiculously out of their league that they think they deserve for whatever delusional reason.

No. 196686

Thank god that these type of guys are a minority, they're complete sociopaths who would make me lose all faith in humanity otherwise.

No. 196705

>>195480
Do you mean female strategies of manipulating men for resources?

No. 196717

>>196705
I think that's what they meant.

Honestly though, men are so beta and pathetic that it would be easy as fuck. I don't think instruction would even be necessary. Though most women have too much empathy and integrity to lead some beta guy on.. If the genders were switched men would have no qualms with using us.



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