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No. 475721
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>>475716I'm still laughing at the absolute state of that thread.
Empty, dead and devoid of milk. Titties so dry that the sperg had to start a whole new thread, and even this isn't going as planned
No. 475760
>>475692Just dont let it take over your life is what i got to say.
So many fujo's let yaoi take control over them that they end up becoming trannys or they have some weird fucked up fetishes.
Also try to look at more normal yaoi as you possibly can (i know all yaoi is fucked up and
problematic but try to look at some which is the least
problematic)
ALSO WHAT EVER YOU DO DO NOT LET CURIOSITY TAKE OVER YOU. Do not go down the yaoi rebbithole.
The more you go through the rabbit hole the more fucked up things you will see that you will never forget so whatever you do just stick to yaoi which is somewhat normal…i said somewhat.
No. 492638
I still enjoy yaoi, but at one point in my life I was obsessed with it. I figured out that I liked yaoi because it was not only created by women for women, but because I could self insert and not have to face my own womanhood.
With yaoi there was no one to compare my body to, my actions to, my career to, my overall attractiveness too. I could enjoy the romance and not think about any of it.
At some point, I just became ready to embrace who I was as a woman. Now I am able to connect with otome games and romance levels on a level I couldn't with yaoi. So anon, maybe if your huge on self inserting like me this might resonate with you.
>>475862Also agree, nothing like a good reality check to level you out.
No. 492963
>>475862Worst case: you find out the boyfriend/girlfriend is into yuri or yaoi as well
404 reality check not found
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There’s nothing really wrong with it. Just don’t be an embarrassing sperg and diversify your interests, like with any weeb habit.
No. 495403
>>495264You guys don't even get off to it? What else are you supposed to do with it? I skip all the boring relationship drama (because it absolutely sucks most of the time and is borderline
abusive) and skip straight to the fucking. I can't imagine enjoying yaoi for the story.
No. 495572
>>495403The fucking isn't good if I'm not invested in the characters, I've seen the sex a million times. So no, most women don't jerk off to BL like males do to any pair of drawn tits.
>sucks most of the time and is borderline abusiveDo you live in 2005 or? I can tell that you're not fujo and only hears about it from other people.
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I read yaoi just because I can't find satisfying het content. 98% of hetshit is just starting at a girls tits and ass for the whole thing, and fuck that shit, I wanna see a man.
I always prefer straight content but it's so hard to find anything decent. I figure if men can get away with wearing ahegao shirts in public, and raving about lolis and piss and anal, than I can be permitted to enjoy some boy on boy every once in a while.
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>>495892She’s not condoning males?? No one is policing males like they police fujos though. Not to mention BL isn’t comparable to loli imouto shit. I’m so tired of women being held to some fucking arbitrary standard of morality which men simply disregard.
>>495759All that proves to me is you specifically seek out rape shit to get off to Edge-chan
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OP, my advice to you is to look for mangas with better-written female characters. When I watch shows with decently-written female characters, I tend to ship those instead. Revolutionary Girl Utena or the Rose of Versailles for instance.
So I've said this before (in one of the other /ot/ threads, I don't remember which), but I think part of the reason why yaoi shipping is so common in shounen fandoms is because the female characters in shounen anime after often super underwritten, and often have no character flaws, or really lame character flaws like being clumsy.
BNHA for instance. Tsuyu and Ochaco have really cute designs, but they're pretty boring characters? Ochaco is just a poor kid who's moe and works hard. Tsuyu is a kuudere frog girl who has to take care of her younger siblings. Momo's story is that she has all this pressure from adults because of her talent, but that's about it. Mina and Hagakure are just the comic relief ones, and Jiro is the token monotone goth girl. Also, they're all just boring kawaii wholesome friends with each other– they never argue, and no two are closer to each other than the rest.
Can you blame people for shipping the characters who actually have backstories, personalities, and individual dynamics with each other? Bakugou and Kirishima have interesting stuff going on in their friendship. It's Kirishima, a super nice guy with low self-esteem, trying to help someone he looks up to be less of a douche, and said douche (Bakugou) actually reciprocates that by being supportive and viewing him as an equal. Like wow! Stuff to latch on to! Stuff you can expand upon! It's not just "teehee kawaii friends who bake cookies together uwu."
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>>496282all hail the bakudeku nation!
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>>496311Kacchako is just straight girls self-inserting as Uraraka because they're thirsty for "bad boy" Bakugou. Like ten years ago you just know Kacchako shippers would have been super into Twilight for the same reason.
Anyway, Miritama is obviously best ship. So wholesome.
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>>496405Why ship Bakugou with the kid he bullied when you can ship him with the guy
whose clothes he wore? Jussayin'.
>>496454I think maybe the men who ship it are into NTR, but not the women. Again, the women just seem like basic girls who get wet for bad boys and want to self-insert with Ochaco.
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>>496535Are you really going to start on this "weeh you're rude to other women!!1!! bullshit on
lolcow.farm of all places? Y'know, a site where women rip on each other for having "fridge bodies" and "potato noses."
No. 496582
>>496567It's funny because whenever fujos jump into threads to infight, they always mention how the word fujoshi was even created. Both of the fujo related threads are full of infighting because fujos can't take criticism, but ok.
Also, nice twitter meme. Are you one of those BNHA obsessed twitter fujos? Drop your tag here so we can see what kind of yaoi you like.
No. 496644
>>496454baku is the first guy to treat ochaco as a peer instead of a delicate flower. I haven't touched bnha in years, nor do I like baku, but I remember that being quite interesting and new in the anime genre.
Honestly I don't see how male characters are that much more complex than the girls in bnha. Everyone kind of falls in a box, and I don't really blame the author for it since he's dealing with a TON of characters all at once.
No. 496653
>>496644All the female characters have good backstories and interesting personalities, but the problem is they don't get utilized much at all. The most we've seen is when Ochaco fought Bakugo, Momo working together with Todoroki and Tzuyu gets to shine every now and then.
But BNHA suffers from the Shonen syndrome of having no exceptionally strong female characters who go toe to toe with the guys, they usually get stuck fighting each others.
It's my only gripe with the series.
No. 496674
>>496653Agreed. All I want is to
see more of the female characters, and also for them to have a bigger variety of relationships with each other. Like, can we have some that are closer to each other than others, some that are frenemies, etc.?
I want to know more about Uraraka's backstory. They allude to her being a country girl, but it would be nice if she got her own backstory chapters like Kirishima and Todoroki did.
>>496582You're seriously accusing me of being a Twitterfag when
you came in here trying to guilt-trip people about "shitting on women," i.e., not being feminist enough?
No. 496916
>>496034Unlike BakuDeku, KiriBaku is for double-digit IQ inbred twitter antis but otherwise you're exactly right. I never got the hate against fujos who'd rather ship the male best friends instead of the "wholesome but boring as hell" female characters. Because in 2005 people jokingly hated on Sakura or Relena with "die bitch" avatars on Livejournal or something people are still butthurt and legitimately think that the only point of discomfort is her simply being female, not because she's a shittily written forced character only made so that the male viewers wouldn't have their dicks shriveled up in fear because the main male couple seems too suspiciously gay.
I have a lot of female characters I absolutely adore, and all of them are organic, important to the story and above all have a distinct personality. Yet people still insist that I ~totally hate female characters~ because I don't like that one "childhood friend/school crush waifu" trope whose only purpose is either to make men comfortable by straight out saying "See, these two aren't gay! You can watch this show without having to fear having your fragile heterosexuality attacked!", or act as some sort of a vague self-insert for all the girls who want to fuck the male main character.
No. 496923
>>496916>I have a lot of female characters I absolutely adore, and all of them are organic, important to the story and above all have a distinct personality.Me too, but honestly I'm just not interested in shipping them sexually. The more I like a female character, the more it feels kinda like sexualizing a friend or something. If the female character is overtly sexual that might change, but even then it's a bit weird (and of course, interesting, developed female characters are a godsend in a series itself. I'm only talking about fanworks like fic or art and porn in particular).
Anyway I don't think women should feel obligated in any way to focus on het ships, they have been present in 99% of the movies, tv and books we consume throughout our lives and we probably enjoy many of them without thinking of it as 'shipping'. My real life relationships are always going to be straight too, women in general are always going to be sexualized and objectified. Taking a break from the norm for self indulgent gay ships isn't an expression of disdain for women, if anything I appreciate women so much more when I read their 100k slow build romance fic and realize pornsick men would never put that much effort and feeling into their fap material.
No. 496932
>>496926>entire basis of being a fujoshi is to self-insert on male characters from a "safe" distanceNTA but I would say the whole point of the 'safe distance' is that you don't have to self insert at all… It focuses on male bodies that women literally cannot relate to or understand, and you don't ever have to put yourself in the characters shoes.
And yeah, it's self indulgent, it's just silly tropey romance most of the time. But do you really think fujos are all dumb and in denial about what they like it for? That we're all secretly desperate to get fucked like a bottom but are too insecure to consider it? Sometimes you just wanna enjoy hot guys doing hot things without thinking about how you would feel in that situation. I've got irl for that shit.
No. 496939
>>496932>But do you really think fujos are all dumb and in denial about what they like it for? That we're all secretly desperate to get fucked like a bottom but are too insecure to consider it? Nah, just the ones like the anon above that sperg out about other women basically doing the same thing, just not the way they do it. It's just self-important, hypocritical and embarrassing to watch. They are not any better, from any standpoint.
"They would have been super into Twilight", as if that anon's ilk weren't busy shipping Edward and Jacob with each other, lmao.
I also feel like you're focusing a bit too much on the physicality of things alone, but that's not all that yaoi (or shipping as a whole) is. The romance aspect is what typically appeals the most.
When you ship characters, you're kind of inherently escaping from yourself and entering their shoes to vicariously enjoy them being together.
Sometimes, the character is a princess and a prince. Sometimes, it's two princes. If you're a woman and you gravitate to the latter, you're adding one more degree of separation from yourself, but like you said, there's still an aspect of self-indulgence, otherwise there'd be no point. You enter their space and basically leave your own reality while remaining conscious/lucid, one way or another. Not all women need or want that extra degree of separation, and I don't see how that's a point against them. It's all just fun.
No. 497241
>>496300I'm fine with Kacchaco because I hate Deku despite shipping Bakudeku the most.
>>496320Fuck yeah sis.
>>496311Kiribaku is for contrarians and tumblrites.
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>>497241Have you ever considered that people just ship Kiribaku because the characters get along? And not solely for the sake of disagreeing with you? I'm just neutral about Bakudeku.
Why are you assuming people do things just to spite you? Jfc the world doesn't revolve around you.
>>497243Y'know, I'm mostly just "okay" with all the ships he's in. There aren't any I'm super passionate about.
No. 497250
>>475692It's fine to like yaoi, as long as you know the marks of an
abusive relationship is since most yaoi have that. Unpopular opinion, but BJ Alex is shit. Just saying. It's cute, but when you think about it, the relationship is fucking
toxic. Same with Raising a Bat. Made me stop reading yaoi manhwa/manga for some time. Just read Heesu in Class 2. Basic, but sweet.
No. 497259
>>496924>>496931Wasn't that what anon was implying though? Men write shit female characters, I think everyone's aware of it at this point.
>>497250Aside from the completely ignorant "duhh all BL has a rape plot" statement based on stereotypes, -all- fiction outside of BL uess "
abusive" relationship dynamics. Because it's fiction and it makes things work when they couldn't in real life. It's a controlled environment where you can safely experience the thrills you would never want to in real life. And because it's fiction, you need to amplify all the conflicts to keep the audience interested. The wholesome comfy coffeeshop AU sort of relationship, while ideal in real life, is boring to most people outside of your RP group/fanfiction circle.
No. 497264
>>497054>Generally I ship characters that are really interesting and have really different personalities from my own to ship. Pretty difficult to "self-insert" as a character you have nothing in common with. Has it ever occurred to you that fujoshis aren't a hivemind, and that different people have different reasons for liking BL?Did you actually read my post? Shipping isn't some deep thing people do without some measure of self-insertion, otherwise there'd be no emotional payoff or point for shippers (and it's also why many of them get so buttblasted/defensive of their ships). There's no "I-I just like to imagine these two characters being in a relationship and/or fucking just
because, okay?!". It's inherently self-indulgent, sorry.
>quadruple postYeah, it's called adding to one post when there's more than one thing you want to say, kek. Did you have the thread open all day or something?
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The derailment in this thread, especially the bnha ships, is top kek
To answer OP tho, just find out why you like it. Some, like me, are just femdom. Careful not to fall in the uwu smol transboi trap in your journey to discovering yourself tho.