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No. 590615

An ideas or ideas that changed your life, be it something you read, been told, or came to you by your own realization, etc

It can be any kind of thought,be it spiritual, philosophical, a common thought, or a silly/meme one, etc

No. 590623

>They're doing better without you, so why can't you do the same.
I've been devastated over a dead friendship for almost a year now. After hearing this a while back from a random vid it just hit me somewhere deep inside of my consciousness that I need to move on, focus on myself more instead of just dwelling over someone that dumps me like I'm nothing to them. I feel better now, she doesn't wander my mind as much as she used to, i can finally be happy…

No. 590632

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I was in middle school when I read this book. There's a few lines in there that applauds the answer "I don't know" and encourages it as a valid response.

If I don't know something, I'm not going to tout a side as truth and pretend I'm an expert. I don't get into internet arguments at all, I'm largely agnostic, and I hate both sides of American politics equally.

No. 590633

Just because you arent beautiful doesnt mean you dont deserve to be treated with respect and love.

No. 590638

if it doesn't matter in a month, or a year, or 5 or 10, then it doesn't really matter now. Not enough to stress about it or feel like shit about it anyway.

No. 590670

Everyday the sun will rise and you can do something different to change your life. If you just stay in the one place nothing changes.

No. 590755

You can actually do whatever you want. It's being aware of the possible consequences that really matters.

No. 590774

>Before you think about killing yourself because of your problems, think about what kind of life you'll have a week, a month or a year from now. It could be completely different. Think about what kind of things you'd miss out on.

Something my councelor told me back in high school.

No. 590798

I'll accept getting bullied but The Myth of Sisyphus

No. 590802

>>590774
You should really read Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl. This is one of the biggest ideas in it.

Basically, he was a Jewish psychiatrist in Austria during world war II. He survived many different death camps and it heavily inspired his book.

Reposted because bad wording.

No. 590805

>>590798
dw anon i also like edgy teenager philosophy

No. 590817

It gets easier. Every day it gets a little easier. But you gotta do it every day —that's the hard part. But it does get easier.

No. 590822

>>590817
Thank u jogging ape

No. 590844

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>>590817
Riding off this: if you can survive the next ten seconds, then you can survive the next ten, and the next ten..

No. 590847

>>590844
this is a lesson i need to learn and retain..

No. 590851

You only know the highlights of someone else's life.

No. 590864

>>590851
True, everyone is probably as miserable as you are. Nobody asked to be born so might as well be nice to your fellow human.

No. 590865

Listen more than you speak. Ask questions. Know more about others than they know about you.

No. 590866

>>590844
This is actually how I manage through extreme short term pain, I keep counting to ten in my head over and over until the pain is bearable again.

No. 590875

>>590632
Anon, are you me?

Also for me:

>we are all doing the best we can with what we have


I remind myself of that when I feel depressed because I don’t have all that I want or need right now.

No. 590876

>>590866
Oof, sorry for the pain anon, but I'm glad this helps you. I use this for period cramps during work and also when I get really depressed at work. I think the lesson is to not work lol

No. 590890

The general concept of minimalism has really changed my life recently, mostly in terms of how I spend my money. Beforehand I would buy so much shit that that gave me a short burst of happiness but ultimately, was a waste of money and space. Now I spend a lot longer deciding if something is really worth purchasing, spending more on better quality items that’ll last longer, and using money more for experiences. This shift in mindset has really helped improve things for me!

No. 590897

>>590670
"These doors won't open while you stand and watch them" one of the few things that keeps me going and better at my craft.

No. 590925

>>590890
omg anon, same. Do I really need to bring this item into my life? Then I need to find storage, dust it, etc.

No. 590953

>>590890
i actually feel the opposite. i feel empowered not giving into the male ideal of a minimalist sacrificial woman by buying literally everything i ever wanted.

No. 590962

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Reading Planetary by Warren Ellis was pretty enlightening to me and radically changed how I viewed the world, but issue #3 hit me hard.

It's a story about a cop in Hong Kong being betrayed by his partner and continuing on as a ghost, living only to kill criminals. The main characters come and investigate why he exists, expecting a large, convoluted mystery on how he came to be. There's an explanation but the comic tells us that isn't important, what's important is how we live our lives and investing time into pointless bullshit only diverts us from what's really lasting.

It hit me like a ton of bricks. It made me realize how much time I and many people put our time into ideas designed to make us docile (things will naturally work itself out) and not conductive to building a meaningful life. Not some ubermensch shit, but just being present in your everyday life and making the most of the time you have here.

I recommend if you're a fan of comics to the rest of it. It's definitely a deconstruction on the morality of superheroes and some of the fucked up ideas that it inadvertently produces.

No. 590967

Things always work themselves out. I know it sounds stupid but that idea combined with stopping the perpetual fear of death and failure have really changed my life for the better. I find myself less stressed over small things and less worried about the future. I do what I enjoy and don’t really worry too much.

No. 590995

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learning a little about the philosophical tenets of taoism has changed my perspective on life. by no means an expert or a practitioner, but it revealed to me useful ideas:
-do not expend energy fretting over what is not within our control
-take things in stride
-expectations breed disappointment, so manage them wisely

i highly recommend reading the Tao of Pooh; basically a text that illustrates how Winnie the Pooh's personality reflects taoist principles. it sounds super silly, but it's a fun read!

No. 591015

>>590995
this is the cringest thing i have seen all day.

No. 591018

>>591015
care to explain why?

No. 591025

No one's thinking about you and your failures/accomplishments anywhere near as much as you think they are. Stop caring what people think because they will literally only think it temporarily, either when they need something to gossip about with their friends or when you're in the room in front of them. Just do what you need to do to be happy.

No. 591027

When you read someone else's dumbass comment/take on something you care about, and feel yourself getting worked up about it, just remember that they probably felt next to nothing when they wrote it. Maybe half a second of smugness before immediately forgetting about it after pressing Send. My rule of thumb is, never feel more strongly about a comment than its writer possibly did when writing it. Because the only person who "loses" when that happens is you, whose day is ruined, while OP goes on about their merry business. It's a small thing but it's been good for my mood while online.

No. 591028

>>591015
anon no one likes you

No. 591041

There is no one overarching philosophy or lifestyle that works for everyone. There are many ways of accomplishing the same thing, and people have different priorities and goals in life. Whether it comes to diet, mental health, minimalism vs maximalism, etc. This is actually a good thing, because if we were all the same that would be boring. I dislike when people are so convinced their way of doing things is the one true way. It's great that they found something that works for them, but if it doesn't work for someone else that isn't something wrong with them!

No. 591043

Anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy.

No. 591048

All the mornings of the world leave without ever returning.
Rough translation of "tous les matins du monde sont sans retour", hit me like a ton of bricks when I first read it in high school.
Makes me want be more present and active and less of a passive consumer.

No. 591086

weirdly enough, this video helped me a lot. I remember crying so bad when I watched it the first time because i related to it a lot.

The line "You can die any time, what's the rush?" really got to me and helped me as well as the idea of the 'next wave', just thinking about what else is out there or could happen to me that will be good rather than dwelling on all the bad stuff.

No. 591141

>>590995
cute, will read

No. 591143

The Cool Girl quote from Gone Girl. The movie version is also fantastic, but I preffer it from the book. Made me realize men are different to women.

Men always say that as the defining compliment, don’t they? She’s a cool girl. Being the Cool Girl means I am a hot, brilliant, funny woman who adores football, poker, dirty jokes, and burping, who plays video games, drinks cheap beer, loves threesomes and anal sex, and jams hot dogs and hamburgers into her mouth like she’s hosting the world’s biggest culinary gang bang while somehow maintaining a size 2, because Cool Girls are above all hot. Hot and understanding. Cool Girls never get angry; they only smile in a chagrined, loving manner and let their men do whatever they want. Go ahead, shit on me, I don’t mind, I’m the Cool Girl.

Men actually think this girl exists. Maybe they’re fooled because so many women are willing to pretend to be this girl. For a long time Cool Girl offended me. I used to see men – friends, coworkers, strangers – giddy over these awful pretender women, and I’d want to sit these men down and calmly say: You are not dating a woman, you are dating a woman who has watched too many movies written by socially awkward men who’d like to believe that this kind of woman exists and might kiss them. I’d want to grab the poor guy by his lapels or messenger bag and say: The bitch doesn’t really love chili dogs that much – no one loves chili dogs that much! And the Cool Girls are even more pathetic: They’re not even pretending to be the woman they want to be, they’re pretending to be the woman a man wants them to be. Oh, and if you’re not a Cool Girl, I beg you not to believe that your man doesn’t want the Cool Girl. It may be a slightly different version – maybe he’s a vegetarian, so Cool Girl loves seitan and is great with dogs; or maybe he’s a hipster artist, so Cool Girl is a tattooed, bespectacled nerd who loves comics. There are variations to the window dressing, but believe me, he wants Cool Girl, who is basically the girl who likes every fucking thing he likes and doesn’t ever complain. (How do you know you’re not Cool Girl? Because he says things like: “I like strong women.” If he says that to you, he will at some point fuck someone else. Because “I like strong women” is code for “I hate strong women.”)

No. 591147

>>591143
Movie version

And when they find my body, they'll know: Nick Dunne dumped his beloved like garbage, and she floated past all the other abused, unwanted, inconvenient women. Then Nick will die too. Nick and Amy will be gone, but then we never really existed. Nick loved a girl I was pretending to be. "Cool girl". Men always use that, don't they? As their defining compliment: "She's a cool girl". Cool girl is hot. Cool girl is game. Cool girl is fun. Cool girl never gets angry at her man. She only smiles in a chagrined, loving manner. And then presents her mouth for fucking. She likes what he likes, so evidently he's a vinyl hipster who loves fetish Manga. If he likes girls gone wild, she's a mall babe who talks for football and endures buffalo wings at Hooters. When I met Nick Dunne I knew he wanted "Cool girl". And for him, I'll admit: I was willing to try. I wax-strippe my pussy raw. I drank canned beer watching Adam Sandler movies. I ate cold pizza and remained a size two. I blew him, semi-regularly. I lived in the moment. I was fucking game. I can't say I didn't enjoy some of it. Nick teased out in me things I didn't know existed. A lightness, a humor, an ease. But I made him smarter. Sharper. I inspired him to rise to my level. I forged the man of my dreams. We were happy pretending to be other people. We were the happiest couple we knew. And what's the point of being together if you're not the happiest? But Nick got lazy. He became someone I did not agree to marry. He actually expected me to love him unconditionally. Then he dragged me, penniless, to the navel of this great country and found himself a newer, younger, bouncier cool girl. You think I'd let him destroy me and end up happier than ever? No fucking way. He doesn't

No. 591151

>>591143
>>591147
Cultural reset

No. 591153

>>591143
Thanks, anon, haven't seen the movie since it came out and I just impulsively ordered the book because of your post.

No. 591158

two things:

1) "no more discourse everybody shut the fuck up and eat some bread"

2) "some of you really need to stop typing paragraphs and learn to respond 'blow me, bitch,' to people"

same principles, but changed my life for the better, especially when applying it irl as well as online kek

No. 591195

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The idea to always challenge your own comfort zone and to always pick the more adventurous option, even if it's riskier. Any new experience is a new memory that you'll have all your life.

I'm a cautious, non impulsive person, and I've always admired people who are more impulsive and don't overthink their decisions as much. Even if it doesn't always work out perfectly, it will at least make your life more interesting and to me that's one of the most important things there is.
Now to actually manage to practice what I preach…

No. 591210

Everyone should watch this video at least once

No. 591238

"For what it's worth: it's never too late or, in my case, too early to be whoever you want to be. There's no time limit, stop whenever you want. You can change or stay the same, there are no rules to this thing. We can make the best or the worst of it. I hope you make the best of it. And I hope you see things that startle you. I hope you feel things you never felt before. I hope you meet people with a different point of view. I hope you live a life you're proud of. If you find that you're not, I hope you have the strength to start all over again."

this scene helped me through some shitty moments

No. 591239

I have issues dealing with anger and this helped me: being in control of your anger doesn't mean to quell it or bury it, it means to direct it into something positive and meaningful.

I think about this whenever I feel angry, and it helps me to ground myself and avoid feeling guilty for having my own emotions. I'll never be able to stop myself from feeling anger but that's okay, because I can control how I output it.

No. 591257

this video has saved me from suicide multiple times.

No. 591258

>>591257
shit I'm gonna samefag but watching this video again made me want to cry. I'm going through a lot of depression right now.

No. 591286

I've been listening to a lot of psychology podcasts and learning about how we're all walking around with memories that are so biased and affected by emotion that we're basically all lying about our pasts without intending to.

My mom is dead now but for years I struggled with the fact that I'd mention a memory and if it painted her in a slightly bad light..she magically didn't remember it that way. She wasn't a dick in general but it frustrated me that I felt she would lie and just let me think that I'm crazy. I kind of get now that people remember things 'in a more flattering way' all the time and they often genuinely believe it. I've seen friends tell two different versions of a fight and I'm less inclined to pick a side now. And it makes me examine my own memories of emotional times like breakups.

Of course gaslighting and full on liars are a thing too but it's not always that.

No. 591299

>>591258
Hey anon, I love you. I hope one day you’ll be free of your demons. Stay strong!!!

No. 591318

>>590615
>>591147
Saw this post and went to download this audiobook and movie immediately

No. 591366

>>591257
Hey same. It's such a silly video but god, it really fills you up with hope.

No. 591367

This video, I'd say. And any others having to do with Space.
I used to get the same nightmare all the time, me walking out of my house and a Black hole suddenly opening up in the sky and causing a ton of damage to my neighborhood.
At some point, I realized I didn't know too much about how they worked. So I decided to dive into learning about them and space in general.
It was fascinating and a real perspective changer. Made me not only appreciate and care more about our Earth, but life in general.
I've also been looking up at the night sky more often. Ended up seeing two shooting stars in the same week a couple of months ago, 10/10 was really great.



>>591257
I've had that video downloaded ever since I saw it on tumblr years ago.
Gives me hope every time.

No. 591434

>>590865
I should keep that in mind. I'm an open book.

No. 591451

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No. 591456

In my worst depressive phases I would try to do things that I saw others doing that looked fun, and some that I even previously enjoyed myself, only to ruin them by constant comparison and by being extremely cynical to myself. I was listening to this song by my favourite band and the line 'when all you got's a shovel, everything will look like a grave' really made me rethink the way I was approaching stuff. Helped me a ton.

No. 591458

>>591238
>>591147

Loved both these movies, especially Gone Girl. Big lesson: never be a pick-me, not even once. You degrade yourself to a level that makes you lose the respect of men and other women, you become a human wastebin. Unless you're someone like Camille Paglia, by the time your 15 minute of fame is up you have to dig deep to degrade yourself further and produce to a bigger smile. It burns a hole deep in your soul, slowly makes you hate yourself.

I'm glad I got out of that path when I did and I was smart enough to not get involved in social media.

No. 591477

>>591451
what does this mean?

No. 591620

>>591286
what podcasts do you listen to, anon?

No. 591639

>>591195
I've only recently managed to create this mindset. I try to look at experiences as something that I can cross off from my 'never done before' list

No. 591650

>>591143
>>591458
I think Gone Girl made something click inside my head back when I saw it, especially the famous monologue about Cool Girls and after reading the book version in particular. The "Go ahead, shit on me, I don’t mind, I’m the Cool Girl." line really gave me a good shook and it always replays inside my head whenever I see women acting like doormat handmaidens.

No. 593167

I don't know where else to post this

It's regarding Islam and how one fundamental difference holds it back from evey truly evolving

Nearly all rligions are a result of cultural syntricism and divergent evolution, almost like an organism

Zues, odin, Vharma, Jupiter all came from the same source that evolved different characteristics over time due to various factors

Islam is a result of the mixing of Eastern Syriac Christianity, Arab culture and values and some zooratrian asthetics

What differs Islam from other religions is how incredibly arab-o-centric Islam is, literally no words can describe how absurdly Arab-o-centric Islam is

The language of Adam was supposed to Arabic, the language of all those who enter paradise is supposed to Arabic, learning Arabic is supported in the Qura, it's believed that reading the Quran in ones native language is considered less holy then reading in Arabic even if you don't understand a single word

When a people are introduced to Christianity then the people do change but so does Christianity, it adopts local characteristics to suit the people, but when islam is introduced to a people, then while the people do fundamentally change Islam stays the same

I saw this myself when I was in the UK, Churches.would have various different practices and ways to pray depending ethnicity and culture, but masjids/mosques in the UK, Bosnia, Arabia and Pakistan all prayer procedure is exactly the same, other ways of prayer are not allowed and tolerated

Islam can't evolve because of this, it's what holds back Muslims, without some reformation then that's the fate people have to deal with

No. 593172

>>593167
>>593167
I'm saying this as an ex-muslim stuck in Pakistan, I don't see atheism ever coming to Pakistan but I see letting Islam become more native to the people by translating in local languages for the masses as a start in the right direction

No. 593184

>>593172
>>593167
Islam here in the Balkans used to be completely locally adapted up until pretty recently.
After the Yugo wars when a lot of militant islamists from the Middle East came to Bosnia for training, there was a notable shift towards the arabization of Islam there. It's straying away from the traditional local way of worship inherited from the Ottoman Empire towards this new, foreign form of worship.
What I'm saying is, Islam hasn't always been arabocentric, it wouldn't have proliferated as much if it was. The arabocentrcism is deliberate and political, and new for us here.

No. 593185

>>593184
Yeah people in the Punjab during my grandfathers time had many pagan practices, dancing, acrobatics and even some saint worship, it's very recent that this sorta Islamic arabization happened but Islam's text made it very easy

No. 593216

>>593185
Pre Islam we gad a vibrant Hindu and Buddhist culture and before that there was a Native religion called Zunbils. Not much is known but it had similarities with Zoroastrianism and perhaps other older Indo-European religions.

From What I've read the Arab invasion of our land was pretty brutal and then the newly converted Turkic raiders also caused a lot of damage and destruction in Pakistan. There was a concentrated efforts by the Arabs and Turkic raiders to convert the local population to Islam.

Whats sad is that last remaining Pagans in Afghanistan lived in Nuristan who were only recently forcibly converted to Islam, in fact the Nursitan people are thought to be similar to the Kalasha in Northern Pakistan, they are also slowly being converted to Islam and are losing their culture. Their children have to learn Islam if they attend public schools, its a deliberate effort to rob the Kalasha people's culture and religion by brainwashing their children into Islam.

No. 593652

>>593167
with all due respect, you do realize religion is technically not supposed to evolve right? People can choose to practice it differently/implement it within their own lives in whatever way they see fit, but religion itself is supposed to be unshifting in principle. Islam is the only religion on earth that claims to have a holy book that is untouched or adapted by man as well as principles that are set in stone, considering they are taken from the quran which is believed to be sent down by God and God alone. It would literally be a sin for Muslims to go around changing Islam because Islam is founded on God's own words. For example, it's mandatory to wear hijab in Islam, some women don't. I don't. That doesn't change the fact that it's still mandatory. Obviously Islam would be arab-centric considering it's origins, I get what you're saying in terms of being asked to learn a language in order to practice a religion "the right way", but Sheikhs literally cannot go around saying it's ok to pray speaking English because that opens the religion up to being altered in small other ways.

I speak arabic, but I don't understand quranic arabic at all and neither does anyone I know. I just memorize it and recite it without even knowing what I'm saying during prayer, and then I look up the meaning on my own time.

I sounded weirdly pious and holy writing all that out, I'm really not religious at all.

No. 593659

>>593652
It's funny that Muslims actually actually believe that, the Quran was compiled over 100 years after the death of Muhammad in the 8th century based on oral traditions, the Quran literally means the recitation

It's likely the most altered holy book in the world but Muslims are so delusional about its origins, as an exmuslim I can't help but hate that stupid little book and the incel religion

No. 593663

>>593659
this isn't true based on historical fact alone (I'm not muslim, but I minored in religion with a focus in Islam and have a lot of muslim friends)and you're giving transparent ex-muslim temper tantrum vibes. Why is everyone who isn't you a deluded piece of shit. You really think you unlocked the truth of the universe with your basic google search?

No. 593668

>>593659
You might think it's funny and there might be truth to what you're saying but at the end of the day it's a foundational belief. My point is that based on their own standards adapting the Quran would make them non-muslims in god's eyes. There are a lot of muslims who claim they need some physical thing to look at/reference in order to "feel connected to god". Religious leaders can't all of a sudden decide it's ok to worship idols or draw pictures of Muhammad.

No. 593669

>>593663
NTA but I will never understand why you non muslims cape for Islam so hard. Let her be angry, it’s justified. You may have minored in Islam but a lot of us have to spend our whole lives studying the religion in great depth, she hasn't claimed to have any groundbreaking knowledge she’s just shitting on a shit religion ffs.

No. 593672

>>593669
It's not caping if you grew up around the religion since an early age and have gone out of your way to learn about it from reputable sources. Just like it's not ok to let your bad experience with the religion or the way your parents forced it down your throat determine the religion as a whole. It's ok to basically allude that anyone who chooses to practice it is an incel deluded piece of shit but I can't comment on her clearly negative bias? Alrighty.

No. 593674

If you allow other people's opinions define who you are and get in the way of the decisions you make, or the way you value yourself, you are literally going to lead yourself to misery and failure and it's no one's fault but yours.

No. 593679

>>593672
I guess learning directly from the quran in the original quranic arabic isn’t a reputable source.
Also that anon didn’t even say everyone who practices it is an incel but basic reading comprehension is below lolcow I guess. Saying something negative about a religion does not equal being negative about individuals who practice it. Your notallmuslims!! boner is so fucking annoying.

No. 593683

>>593669
Im an atheist but I was literally willing to pretend to be a Christian in order to take the aid of some Christian NGO in order to escape to the west, you have no idea the shit I have had to go through living with this goddam stupid religion over my head, the few years I spent abroad for my education in the UK were heaven for me and going back here was hell, I don't expect the vast majority of people in my country to become athiests or liberals anytime soon but I believe translating the Quran in local languages might give the people one step in order to deradclize them

Islam is an Arab centric and Arab supremacist religion

No. 593686

>>593683
Only 20% of the world's Muslims are arabs though.. Isn't this more of a geographic issue and place of practice more than a religious issue?

No. 593692

>>593686
Yeah and Pakistani Muslims especially Muhajirs and Urdu speaking Punjabis have the biggest inferiority complex in the world, they try to claim Arab ancestry, try to speak with an Arabic accent sometimes, they are ashmed of their ethnicity and try to distance themselves with people who are the exact same ethnic group as them i.e Punjabi Sikhs and try to picture themselves as part of the Muslim Ummah, it's just sad and pathetic

The delusion is so sad and pathetic

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No. 594675

>>591147
>>591143

god this was so relentlessly based

No. 594681

>Ideas that changed your life
>1/2 of the thread is fighting about religion
Take this fight somewhere else retards. Cant handle another good thread almost ruined by dumbass derailing.

No. 594707

>>594672
follow-up. apparently, MT was a controversial figure, so this quote should be taken with a grain of salt after all … I can relate to the message though

No. 595056

I don't need to be in a relationship to be happy. also just because my friends brag about their sex life and how happy they are in their relationship doesn't mean they are the happy in their relationship.

my friend's college friend was telling me about how my friend hates the sex she has with her boyfriend to the point that she feels asexual because of how bad it is. also that she had sex with that friend.

No. 597880

"This city is a prison. I don't want to make a life here"
"Life happens wherever you are. Whether you make it or not."

Quote from Avatar: the last Airbender. I constantly believe my life will begin when I do X or finish Y. Life is where you are now and what you make of it NOW.

No. 597881

>>597880
Fug. Thx for posting that quote, I really have that problem.

No. 598007

If you don’t make choices they’ll be made for you

No. 600769

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even more gone girl goodness

No. 600836

I can do nothing for you but work on myself, you can do nothing for me but work on yourself

No. 619525

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Ichigo Sato from Voltage's Dreamy Days in West Tokyo will forever be my best otome boy. His game was the first otome I ever played at quite a young age and although my love for tsunderes has wore off, my love of the childhood friends turned lovers type trope has only gotten stronger! I've played his route multiple times since, at least once every year. That's how much I love his story lol. I just find nothing more romantic than childhood friends.

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A book I read had a girl say their friend who was crushing on an older dude, think 15 crushing on 30, "pretty creepy crushing on a dude 3 times your age because once you're old enough to date them they'll be in suspended animation waiting for a cure for their oldness"

After reading that the image of an old guy in suspended animation popped always popped in teen me's head when ever I formed romantic crushes on men older than me

No. 619581

>>591195
this mindset led to two life changing decisions that i never regret. such amazing experiences and people always say, 'i wish i had the balls to just do that…'

its worse to wonder what if imo

No. 619589

>>591043
this made me tear up a little. thank u anon

No. 619590

not much really. Nhilism hasn't changed my life but its made it a bit easier to cope with, the idea that nothing really matters and we all die is comforting and can also push you to do more because, well nothing really matters and i'll die anyway. it can also push me to do less and still feel happy. its actually not that bleak of a philosophy to have.

other than that, ive been conditioned into a lot of dumb romantic shit from stupid chick flics and inspirational vids. society tells me to date a broke loser and to always love him until the day we both die because thats what makes me a good person.
i've gained standards since consuming that message, but I still love more than is healthy and buy into the marriage myth

No. 619591

perhaps stupid, but realising that I didn't actually have to have kids if I didn't want them was mind blowing. I always was taught that I had to have them, even though I knew I didn't want them.

No. 620193

"it never gets easier, but you get stronger"

No. 620216

This was a while ago but for me the biggest one was "Islam isn't real". Realizing that your entire life was a lie is one heck of a thing to go through. I genuinely believed in it until I properly studied it and did my own research. My life's been turned upside down since, at least implicitly since I'm not out about it yet.

No. 620245

>>620216
What do you mean by that? That the religion itself isn't real or that god isn't real or something else? Since islam is an actual religion your post is a bit confusing.

No. 620426

The fact that education does not equal intelligence

No. 620459

>>620245
Oh lol yeah I meant to say "Islam isn't true". I stopped believing in God and islamic teachings

No. 620467

>>620216
Gosh apostasy felt so good when I finally figured out that I don't want to deal with it anymore and went "fuck islam". Just be careful it's better to still lie to your family until you're sure you'll be safe and stable live alone

No. 620469

>>620459
Oh yeah that makes sense, I can relate to that. When I realized how random some of the traditions are like ramadan or not eating pork I stopped believing in it too. I always thought it was too random for an omnipotent, omniscient god to force humans to follow that shit but after hearing more and more stories of muslims pretending to fast despite being very sick, menstruating or pregnant so they wouldn't be harassed I stopped giving a shit.

No. 620472

That nobody really cares about you, what you do or your business unless they stand to directly gain from it.

That thought single handedly cured my social anxiety lmao, it just took some basic empathy. I was constantly scrutinising myself and how I fucked up, but how often did I do that to others? Almost never, and when I did I'd forget it by the next day. I never thought about how ugly or incompetent someone was as they walked with their plate of soup, you know? Why overthink your answer to your favorite band/film when 100% of the time they're just waiting to tell you theirs?

However I think that philosophy has taken me as far as it can and is acting as a hindrance though, because I really don't care what others think of me at a point in life where I actually do have to somewhat impress (career shit).

No. 620524

There is no truth.

No. 620526

>>620472
People dont care about you? It seems like people are always in my business even randoms.

No. 620529

>>620469
What did it for me were the unabashed misogyny (too many instances to cite), outright scientific errors (flat earth, sun sets at a muddy spring, embryo verse, etc) and the sheer violence (Hudud,descriptions of islamic conquests,etc) in the Quran and Hadith.

What kind of pains me looking back now is the fact that the misogyny alone wasn't enough for me to stop believing when it should have been. It was the scientific errors that made it all so obviously manmade to me

No. 620542

>>620529
there are islamic flat earthers? i thought this was a christian thing

No. 620579

>>620542
There aren't many of them nah. The thing is that a lot of muslims don't actually know that much about it and only practice basic stuff. (That's why I think it's unfair to judge muslims by how awful islam is, so many of them don't even know about the awful parts) There's a number of parts in the quran and hadith that point to the earth being thought as flat, but most people either ignore them or apply mental gymnastics to excuse them.

No. 620580

>>620542
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the bible and the quran have a lot of overlap?

No. 620592

At our most boiled down, simplified core beyond the body & the personal life experiences, we are all the same as we are simply an awareness

No. 620600

>>620526
It's curiosity rather than actually caring about you the majority of the time. People who love sticking their nose in other's business also love to tell you what to do and how to live your life. Don't mind them.

No. 620674

>>620579
That's something similar to how a lot of Christians haven't read the bible and just follow traditions by copying others who are also copying others, etc.

I'm in Europe so barely anyone cares if I don't fast during ramadan or whatever and I've noticed that since in my community a lot of people haven't read the quran and only follow rules because of their families they tend to "remix" traditions to go their own way or because Islam was mixed with local, more ancient traditions and believes from my countries of origin. My mother will NEVER wear the hijab and she cooks some dishes with alcohol because you can't get drunk from these dishes. I've even talked to some muslims, mostly young adults like me, who believe in god and all that but they think some parts of the quran are outdated or even insulting towards women and should be ignored.

No. 620698

>>620472

Yes anon I feel this hard. I think I remember the moment I realised this was sitting in my high school classroom looking at all the other girls around me, specifically the ones with bodies similar to mine. Just that moment of "hey, those parts of her don't disgust me or even resonate with me heavily at all, in actuality I find it easier to appreciate parts of me when I see it on other people and how good it can look."

>>620526
the key part in the original post is "unless they stand to gain something from it", perhaps you come off as an interesting person or someone who has a lot to offer. I think jealousy and envy can be the foundations of both good relationships and bad.

No. 620702

you will do everything a last time. Of course, eventually you'll die and will do nothing at all, but before that, throughout the course of your life, you'll do everything for the last time and you'll likely have no idea it will be the last time when you do it.

The last time you swam in the ocean, or visited a country, or ate your favourite meal, or saw your friend. Even the things you might despise doing, like going to work, or going for a run, you will one day do that thing for the last time.

After hearing this line of thought, I try my best to be present in the moment and take in what I'm doing more. Even if I hate it, to wish the time away faster is literally wishing away your life. You don't live in the past or the future, those are only your memories and ideas. You live only now, over and over again.

No. 620715

>>620702
This really resonated with me, anon. Thanks.

No. 620778

>>620580
I don't know enough about the bible to really answer that. But a lot of bible tales/personalities have their version in the Quran (Moses, Jesus, Noah, Sodom,etc). Islam says that the Bible and Torah used to be the true word of God but got corrupted by people changing them, that Mohammed is the last prophet and the Quran is the last holy book, one that can't be corrupted. (Big fat lie this one lol, there's a bunch of versions of it with verses that can have different meanings)

No. 620785

Nothing really matters. And that’s ok, you can find meaning and power in your existence. But don’t let things crush you. Just do your best, live for the moment, don’t waste precious seconds on things which don’t further your goals or bring you pleasure. Every second you’re alive is a second closer to being dead. And that’s ok. Just makes every second sweeter

No. 620786

Some larger concepts:

>Stoicism

The idea that worrying or ruminating does not help the situation, so it's a waste of time. Really helped me to curb my anxiety.

>Ascetisism

The idea that there is no inherent reason to be hedonistic or even comfortable. Helps me do tasks that make me physically uncomfortable (getting out of bed/shower, washing dishes, working out, tidying up).

And a few things I say to myself:
>This will not be forever
Applies to everything. All suffering will end at some point, even if has to end because of death. My depression puts me in states sometimes when I believe I will never not be miserable or suicidal. That always passes.

>How much pain am I actually feeling right now?

I have a close relationship with physical pain (I get bad menstrual cramps and had lower back problems for several years, and I get headaches regularly). Before, I would "go easy" on myself when I knew that pain was coming (taking a vehicle instead of walking/biking to work, for example, or allowing myself to neglect my daily household maintenance and lay in bed all day) and the anticipation of/response to the pain always made it worse than it really was. I make it a point now to continuously take an inventory of how much pain I am actually truly feeling in a given moment. It usually turns out to be less than the level of pain that would warrant the magnitude of my response to it.

>I am the only person who truly has my best interests at heart.

I cannot count on someone else having my well being as their top priority. I have a loving family and friends, but I would not trust any of them with my life and my interests. They have other priorities, and they should. This has helped out immensely in my career and my personal life because I constantly evaluate and ask for what I want/need without expecting someone else to tell me what I should be staying on top of.

>You should only be consuming as much as you produce.

This applies to food/calories, but I also apply it to non-physical consumption (TV, movies, reading, other passive activities). This keeps me creative and makes my days more interesting than they would be if I just sat around listening to music or watching TV all day.

No. 620841

>>620785
Anon you sound underage

No. 620844

>>620785
This sort of edgy nihilism masquerading as profound insight always confuses me so much. I can't tell for sure whether or not it's bait.

No. 620850

>>620844
Same. Taken from a post from 3 days ago in the Unpopular Opinions thread;
>Political nihilism and all "I think nothing will ever change so why should I take personal responsibility for anything I do or say" branches of thought are just glorified laziness, nothing more. It's pretending that if you don't care about something, it'll stop effecting you, or that your consciously-chosen apathy means no one can still be effected by what you do - immature adults abdicating responsibility under the guise of pseudo-intellectual cynicism.

No. 620863

>>620785
is it bad if I find this more comforting than positive messages
>>620850
>or that your consciously-chosen apathy means no one can still be effected by what you do
that's kind of true depending on what you're doing or if you never interact with anyone

No. 620864

>>620580
The three Abrahamic religions are all based on The Torah, which is why there is crossover. Christians follow The New Testament which is the teachings of Jesus, His disciples and Saint Paul. They believe that the laws of The Old Testament or Old Covenant were fulfilled by Jesus on the cross. Jews still follow some of Torah because they reject Jesus as the son of God. Mohammed references The Torah and other Jewish/Christian writings but claims that the versions available in his time had been corrupted, so institutes his own laws based on what he was told by Allah.

No. 620871

>>620715
glad to hear! if you're interested I heard this from a mindfulness app called Waking Up by Sam Harris. I really recommend it, if only for the talks / lessons that discuss why being mindful is such a power mindset to adopt and how it can practically affect your experience of life. You can get it for free by just asking the apps contact email.

No. 620874

>>620864
>what he was told by Allah.
Just in case some anons don't know, allah literally just means god, that's not a specific name and muslims worship the exact same god as jews and christians. I'm saying this because I keep seeing people use the word "allah" in the middle of other unrelated languages like it's his first or last name and because of that some people legit think that's his name.

No. 620882

>>620874
Yes it is a specific name for god that Muslims use. The direct definition for god in Arabic is “ilaah”. Not Allah.

No. 620883

>>620844
>>620841
It’s not nihilism. Just radical acceptance. Do your best, don’t expect much.

No. 620888

>>620850
It’s not laziness. Plenty of people with this mindset take action. It’s those who take action without this mindset that ultimately is me up frustrated and stop trying. It’s not a reason to not pursue your dreams, especially if helping others gives you a reason to live. It’s more so an acceptance of your humanity and its limitations, and never allowing someone else or something else to make you feel small.

No. 621021

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I have some rather vague spiritual ideas inspired by Buddhism
>karma is real, the workings of it are complicated, not meant to be understood
>the world is Samsara, a place of suffering, that's part of it without being defeatist
>I'm a soul, I'll be fine in the end, I'll get into Nirvana eventually
>I also have this vague personal belief everything will be resolved and good in the end and everyone gets into Nirvana eventually

No. 622110

As other anons said, the fact that nothing matters and you will die. Not that I didn't know lol but I guess there are different perspectives around it, like how some people are motivated to do better. For me, it took away the burden of being considerate of outside expectations and other people's lives.

No. 622123

Late to this and I'm ugly crying. I'm keeping it for the document I'm building that I will read/watch every time it gets too hard.
Thx FOR Real nonnie.

No. 622126

Two years ago around christmas time youtube recommended me a video. It was about vegetarian christmas dinners, they talked about how many people are flexitarian or vegetarian for the environment (like me at the time) yet meat replacements based on cheese are worsed for the environment than pork or poultry. When they put it like that I realized that if I really cared about the environment I’d have to eat an animal unless I wanted to go all out vegan.

The next day I was recommended a christmas song on Spotify about sad animals being slaughtered for our Christmas dinners. The song was a rewrite of another song by the same artist and when I looked up the original song it turned out to be about sad dairy cows (which I’d never realized) and the lyric video had a counter of animals slaughtered and water wasted for our dairy production in the duration of the song.

I don’t know why the informational video and then the music video got to me so much. I was subscribed to the vegan subreddit, and had many vegan friends already. Yet this is what it took for me to go vegan. I wonder if I’d still be eating cheese if I hadn’t been on youtube those days.

No. 622136

"Minimum pay, minimum effort"
I remember having actual nightmares about my first job and crying when I would be 5 mins late or if the subway broke down. My friend once said minimum pay minimum effort, and I never looked back lol. Nightmares disappeared and I overall stopped caring about what customers had to say

No. 622137

>>622126
Good for you anon. I can't stand vegetarians who act like they're so much greater and less extreme than vegans because they still eat cheese and eggs.
To be honest I don't even understand it because as soon as I learned about the environmental impact of animal products I knew it'd be useless to stop at vegetarianism but I suppose it depends on your source of information.

No. 622159

>>622136
My philosophy until I got a warning for consistently showing up literally 2 minutes late kek

No. 622163

>>622159
Well minimum effort is showing right on time, so it's a you problem not a problem with the philosophy itself.

No. 622181

>>622137
If you care about the environment, as long as you eat local and farm-raised for example, is all good. I don't eat meat because of the animal suffering but consume eggs from the farm outside of my city. The chickens are all free and have a ton of space to move around and the people there just collect the eggs from the ground

No. 622253

>>621021
I'm not into the same spirtual stuffs as you, but I do have this deep seated belief that everything is going to work itself out eventually.
I've always believed it ever since I was really young and it's actually true for me, anything shitty or painful that happens to me ends up not being a big deal in the long run.

No. 622358

>>620216
don't most historians agree that Islam cropped up around the collapse of the Roman Empire, and its spread is quite obviously the result of a power vacuum and thousands of mercenary armies suddenly finding themselves unemployed?

No. 622384

>>622181
>If you care about the environment, as long as you eat local and farm-raised for example, is all good.
Yeah okay… Eating 100% local and farm raised animal products would be completely unaffordable for most people living in cities, and if everyone ate "local and farm raised" then those "uwu cute nice farm where animals are loved" would have to increase their output so much that they could not stay so "humane". Also no matter how happy a cow is it's still land and resources used extremely inefficiently. It's even less environmentally sustainable to eat grass fed beef than factory farmed beef.
Summarizing this complex issue with "eat local and it's all good" is laughably simplistic.

Also people love to say they only buy organic local humanely slaughtered (lol) meat but most of the time they only mean "the two steaks I buy every week has all these things written on the label" but they still buy transformed products that contains meat from dubious originis, and still eat from non organic/locally-sourced restaurants, still buy salami sandwiches at lunch, etc. It's an excuse and never reflects reality.

Happy for you that you happen to have a farm outside your city that you can access, that treats its laying hens well (and I assume somehow they got their hens from a process more humane than the industry standard which is hatch thousands of eggs and throw the males chicks in a grinder or gas chamber because they're useless), doesn't even slaughter them after they stopped being productive enough, and on top of that you can afford those eggs. Good for you Anon. Most people wouldn't have all those things, especially considering such farms are few and far inbetween, so again: summarizing this issue with "just get from local producers bro, the animals there are sooo happy" is stupid.

No. 622391

>>622384
shut up poorfag(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 622441

>>622391
Nta, but anon's argument was completelly reasonable.
The was we consume so much is simple unsustainable.

No. 622451

>>622441
>thinking someone who hates people for not having as much money as them is capable of considering this

No. 622474

>>622358
when did the Roman Empire ever occupy saudi arabia, wtf?

No. 622484

>>622391
>tfw won the argument after only 2 posts
Nice.

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No. 622832

>>622384
Veganism is worse for the planet than eating meat. If the entire human population were to switch to a vegan diet the use of artificial fertilisers and pesticides would skyrocket. Artificial fertilisers leech into rivers, where it destroys the kills aquatic life and destroys the ecosystem needed by birds and animals. It pollutes ground water and limits the availability of clean water for drinking. Increased pesticide use would cause the extinction of insects needed for pollination. Banning animal products in things like cosmetics would also lead to an increased use of petrochemicals which would further harm the environment by more drilling for oil and lead to increased plastics in the world's oceans which is already a problem without adding to it.

No. 622843

>>622832
any studies you can provide to back this up or?

No. 622845

>>622843
Nta but can't you just google it yourself and see what pops up?

No. 622875

>>622832
>If the entire human population were to switch to a vegan diet the use of artificial fertilisers and pesticides would skyrocket.
Yes the issue of having fertilizer that is not harmful to the environment is important but the world will not go vegan overnight so this rhetorical supposition brings nothing to the conversation, if veganism made enough strides that most of the population converted to it then that means more research will be done because industries would put their money in research benefiting sustainable agriculture rather than lobbying for biased studies on how meat and dairy are not that bad.

Also an omni diet requires more crops than a vegan one since all the animals need to eat for months or years before they get slaughtered. And animal agriculture also causes pollution to rivers and lakes because of animal waste. We need better, more sustainable agriculture and less monocultures, but that is not ultimately incompatible with not killing animals. Regardless of if the world goes vegan or not, we should advocate for more research for pesticides and fertilizers thoroughly tested for to cause the least harm as possible.

>Banning animal products in things like cosmetics would also lead to an increased use of petrochemicals

That's stupid. Do you really think the only possible ingredients for cosmetics, or anything for that matter, is either animal based or petrol based? "Vegan, cruelty free, organic, all natural" cosmetics are a huge trend now, I'm not saying they're all good and dandy because of course greenwashing is big but it only takes a 5 second google search to see you can make cosmetics with only a few natural ingredients.

>increased plastics in the world's oceans

If you're so concerned about plastic in the oceans then surely you're aware that most of it comes from discarded fishing nets and equipment? Shouldn't you try to do something against that now, instead of advocating against veganism because it might cause, according to your theories?

This post is a great example of the new woke arguments against veganism. "POC can't be vegan!" "Poor people can't afford vegan food!" and now "actually veganism is bad for the environment because uhhhhh if I don't eat beef the petrol industry will conquer the world". False equivalencies galore.

This vid replies to one of these simplistic videos that strawman veganism and that people love to jump on so they don't have to think critically about what they consume. I recommend this channel as she posts credible studies for every claim she makes.

No. 622880

>>622845
no, she made those claims, she can provide evidence to back them up. Burden of proof is on her.

No. 622911

Learning the gray rock method has been kinda life changing for me. I first learnt about it while dealing with a neighbor, he had a romantic interest in me and I was left in an awkward spot where I couldn't leave my house without him trying to engage with me. He's a lot older and would think up excuses for needing constant help or advice from me. I dreaded leaving my house because I was raised to be so fucking polite even when people are sucking the life out of me.

Now I apply it both with him and at work sometimes too. Given the field that I work in, it's been a real sanity saver.

No. 622924

>>622911
>Gray rock method
What is it?

No. 622927

>>622843
The actual study I want to link is behind a paywall so this will have to do.

Artificial fertilisers deplete soil
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/effects-synthetic-fertilizers-45466.html
>Synthetic fertilizers have long-term negative effects. Synthetic fertilizers kill beneficial microorganisms in the soil that convert dead human and plant remains into nutrient-rich organic matter.

https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-its-time-to-stop-punishing-our-soils-with-fertilizers-and-chemicals
>We see that when there is a lot of tillage, no cover crops, a system of high intensity [chemical-dependent] farming, that the soil just doesn’t function properly. The biology is not doing much. It’s not performing as we need it to. We are essentially destroying the functionality of soil, so that you have to feed it more and more synthetic fertilizers just to keep growing this crop.

Artificial fertilisers pollute ground water
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/effects-synthetic-fertilizers-45466.html
>Nitrogen- and phosphate-based synthetic fertilizers leach into groundwater and increase its toxicity, causing water pollution. Fertilizers that leach into streams, rivers, lakes and other bodies of water disrupt aquatic ecosystems.

https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2017/12/07/The-Hidden-Dangers-of-Chemical-Fertilizers.aspx?Page=2
>The problem is it creates what experts call a dead zone. When it is in the water, it encourages the growth of plankton and other aquatic plants to excessive amounts. When they die, the process of decomposition eats up oxygen that fish and other aquatic animals need to survive. As a result, the waters closest to the land where agricultural runoff is also heaviest are empty of fish and crustaceans.

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/soils/improvement/environment
>Nitrate leaching through the soil can present a serious health hazard and contributes to soil acidification. When high rates of nitrogen are used or where clover grass pastures fix substantial nitrogen, especially on sandy or permeable soils, inevitably some nitrate is leached and may enter groundwater if there is a watertable. If this groundwater is used for domestic supplies, the leaching presents a serious health hazard.
>Eutrophication is the enrichment of water by the addition of nutrients. The extra nutrients encourage the growth of algal blooms, particularly in stagnant water. Blue–green algae may produce toxins poisonous to animals, including humans. For this algae to grow, phosphorus must be present in the water above a certain level.

https://www.epa.gov/nutrientpollution/sources-and-solutions-agriculture
>This excess nitrogen and phosphorus can be washed from farm fields and into waterways during rain events and when snow melts, and can also leach through the soil and into groundwater over time. High levels of nitrogen and phosphorus can cause eutrophication of water bodies. Eutrophication can lead to hypoxia (“dead zones”), causing fish kills and a decrease in aquatic life. Excess nutrients can cause harmful algal blooms (HABs) in freshwater systems, which not only disrupt wildlife but can also produce toxins harmful to humans.

The use of artificial fertiliser releases green house gases
https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2017/12/07/The-Hidden-Dangers-of-Chemical-Fertilizers.aspx?Page=3
>Another problem with nitrogen is it contributes to the greenhouse effect. Dubbed the "other greenhouse gas," nitrogen is just as bad as carbon dioxide in global warming, but is not as famous. The main sources of nitrogen in the atmosphere in the form of nitrous oxide are power plants and cars, but using more nitrogen fertilizers than crop plants can absorb plays a significant role.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertilizer
Nitrogen fertilizers are made from ammonia (NH3) produced by the Haber-Bosch process.[18] In this energy-intensive process, natural gas (CH4) usually supplies the hydrogen, and the nitrogen (N2) is derived from the air. This ammonia is used as a feedstock for all other nitrogen fertilizers, such as anhydrous ammonium nitrate (NH4NO3) and urea (CO(NH2)2).

Artificial fertilisers are harmful to human health
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/effects-synthetic-fertilizers-45466.html
>Synthetic fertilizers increase the nitrate levels of soil. Plants produced from such soil, upon consumption, convert to toxic nitrites in the intestines. These harmful nitrites react with the hemoglobin in the blood stream to cause methaeglobinaemia, which damages the vascular and respiratory systems, causing suffocation and even death in extreme cases (when blood methaemoglobin level is 80 percent or more).

https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2017/12/07/The-Hidden-Dangers-of-Chemical-Fertilizers.aspx?Page=3
>At worst, chemical fertilizers may increase the risks of developing cancer in adults and children and adversely affecting fetal brain development. This is not news to scientists. A 1994 study by the University of Wisconsin suggest show that typical concentrations of nitrate (a common fertilizer) and a pesticide in the groundwater may compromise the nervous, endocrine, and immune system of young children and developing fetuses. A study in 1973 associates high levels of sodium nitrate in groundwater with the prevalence of gastric cancer, and another one in 1996 with that of testicular cancer.

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The pain and pleasure principle. And thinking about how relieved and happy my future self is going to be when I do stuff that I don't want to.
Example: Washing the dishes before going to sleep and think about how good I'll feel when I wake up the next day and everyhing is clean + I'll have more time to do what actually matters

No. 622980

>>622927
>behind a paywall
anon…

No. 622998

mary oliver:
"you do not have to be good. you do not have to walk on your knees for a hundred miles through the desert repenting. you only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves."

No. 624472

the poem "If" by Rudyard Kipling made me really think about shit a year ago

the poem is a little long so i don't want to post the whole thing, but the last part is what i really zoned in on the most

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

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stoicism seems pretty cool to me at the moment. I think it should be applied carefully because it can lead to self-denial and surpressed issues applied wrongly but it's really inspiring to me atm. there is just something comforting about the earnestness of it all and these dead philosophers passing on their wisdom to little alive me.
I find it comforting that Epictetus had been a slave and wrote from that experience. I can't relate to the hardship of that at all but I can relate to hardship in general.

No. 624785

>>591158
Hell, I'm gonna use both of these more. Thanks anon

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>>624740
Same here, anon! I've been reading this book which is loosely based on stoicism and it's been very useful for me

No. 625373

>>624740
>>625061
Would really love other recs from you guys of where to start reading about stoicism. I feel so aimless and beaten down lately and would love a set of pointers to follow to power through certain things in my life. As you can imagine, the Wikipedia article about it barely scratches the surface.

No. 680315

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You can, and will in fact, outgrow people, even if you previously admired them.

Some people just don't click together even if they are pretty similar.

Some relationships and friendships are worth being patient and fighting for.

You can tell the difference between someone who matters vs someone who doesn't. It's okay to be selective with your friendships, it does not make you a bad person.

Your friends should mature at the same rate as you do.

Even if someone is nice or were nice before it doesnt mean that you should be friends with them.

No. 680317

Go through life without ever ascribing to your opponents motives meaner than your own. Nothing so lowers the moral currency; give it up, and be great.

No. 680409

Everything you feel and think and have been through is cliche and common.

This helped me get over someone.

No. 680423

I started self harming again because I can't handle myself emotionally and physically anymore. I feel so hollow, unloved, and ugly. Honestly, it feels good. Good idea that changed my life.

No. 680435

>>680423
Take it to the vent thread, anon.

No. 680487

Everything in life is transient, good and bad things alike. Everything is meant to end at some point and it is okay to let go of things.

No. 680503

>>680487
"Meaning" is fake and you're all weird.

No. 680509

>>680315
>Some people just don't click together even if they are pretty similar.
why

No. 680694

atheism changed my life for the better but, sometimes i wish i believed in something that could magically change my life. like "be patient, god has a plan for you" kinda bullshit

No. 680708

>>680509
Nta but it happens more than you can expect. Sometimes you can have the exact same opinions about things and even similar likes, but something might be lacking, sometimes it’s interest and there are times that it just doesn’t feel as nice to talk about stuff when what you have is basically your personal echo chamber.

No. 680820

The realisation that I didn’t have to be the peacemaker changed my life. I was that way out of necessity as a child but it lingered even as an adult. I didn’t question it until I had allowed a scrote to tear me down for years. Better late than never.

People are going to have opinions and if they’re intent on thinking about you negatively, they will despite all evidence to the contrary. Sometimes I’d embarrass myself trying to be likeable. Not worth it.

Grey rock method as mentioned upthread. It’s so easy to become a victim of someone’s shit, but not taking the bait removes their power. There’s a narc in my life who would be a hassle to cut off, so I use it when they have an episode. It’s very difficult not to give in to their manipulation at times but I feel so much better since using the method.

Learning is frustrating, especially when it seems like most other people already know this shit, but it’s so much better than never learning. Thank fuck.

No. 680959

>>680694
I feel this in my soul (that doesn't exist). I was raised with religion and threw myself into it without reservations, but when I started questioning things that didn't have answers and became atheist it all fell apart. I mostly felt relieved and better than ever before, full of self determination and freedom. But a big part of me wishes there had been something to replace religion, that would make sense of the world and give me the reassurance that it would all turn out okay no matter what.

No. 681128

It's cringey but, "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels." I'm not an ana but that quote has stopped me from consuming thousands of calories over the years.

No. 681131

>>681128
lmao that reminds me how i still hated myself and wanted to lose more weight even after reaching my UGW.

No. 681211

That no amount of escaping reality will make me who I wanted to be. That it's a waste of time and I only hated myself for it being my world. I was into fandom nonsense and seeing the kinnies around made me realize this. It's obvious but, their delusions of being "like this character" and the obsessive pursuit of those qualities never amounted to any value. They were transparently not that way, and even less so for being kinnie twitter snowflakes in the first place. It's delusion anyway. I never kinned but I realized you can only be yourself, aka strive to do good and succeed the way that comes naturally. If it's a feeling of confidence and achievement you want, you have to do something in the real world. I realized I was almost as bad as them by avoiding what actually has worth in life, life itself. All those cool storylines and characters actually did things and went outside lmao i'm happy to be in that direction now. I was genuinely having issues in my way, so this idea wasn't a cure, but it was part of the final helping steps once I got there

No. 688905

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I always thought "This book changed my life!" was a meme. I've pretty much has emotional problems my whole life (stemming from all over the place) and it's so difficult to stray from self-hatred and constantly, randomly thinking about things in my past and quietly mumbling "Ugh, I fucking hate myself/fuck my life/i want to kill myself" etc etc. I do it ALL the time. These are very impulsive thoughts and no amount on therapy has helped me keep them quiet. It's just so hard to not think about the past for me.
But I picked up this book "12 Things That Mentally Strong People Don't Do" and already, after just reading the first chapter, I am getting better at stopping those thoughts. The first chapter is about how you should stop feeling sorry for yourself, and instead feel grateful. Don't think about the things that went wrong in your life, but instead think about how thankful you are/lucky you are/fortunate you are.
The book is well written and easy to chew (if that makes sense?). When I'm mumbling "I want to kill myself" I immediately switch it up and interrupt myself, and change it to something I'm grateful for. And it's for the dumbest shit too, like this morning I said "I am grateful for this kitchen" because I could be in a spot right now where I didn't have a kitchen, couldn't afford to. But I do and I can right now. So basically, it changed the gear of my thoughts and made me think of something better. I'd really honestly rather do cringey shit like that than constantly think about how shitty my life was in the past.

I really hope that eventually I can change my way of thinking with this book. So far it's very promising. Anons, highly recommend you torrent it or buy it if you can. I've considered myself mentally/emotionally weak for years, so I hope this helps you too.

No. 688906

>>688905
samefag but it's actually 13 things, not 12 oops.

No. 688931

>>681128
Ironically I think that quote is true only for non anas (ie people without bdd) bc even when I was underweight I thought I was still fat and didn't enjoy it at all

No. 688943

>>688905
if you don't mind sharing more, was applying that knowledge difficult for you at all? do you say these things out loud?

No. 688946

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>>688905
My favorite self help book is 'The Subtle Art of Not Giving A F*ck' and I recommend it to everyone that I possibly can, I hope you'll read it if you ever happen across it! I've come a long way since I first read that self help book and live a much more mellow, chill life. I'll definitely check out the book you mentioned though, no downside to learning how to be better to myself.

I posted pic related into the positivity thread but I'll post it here too. I don't have kids or want any, but the rest of the points still stand true lol. I've really come to appreciate the small things in life, no matter how ~*~*hallmark christmas movie*~*~ and cheesy that may sound, and it feels fucking great. So many small things in life make me want to cry because I'm so grateful that I can experience them at that very moment, even if it's just waking up in the morning and looking at how beautiful the sky looks and how the morning sunlight hits the building across the street. I wish you the best in your journey anon, I hope one day you'll find true peace with yourself and become a person you're happy to be.

No. 688955

>>688946
Nta, you’re probably right ut I had to lol at “I’m still alive”

No. 688960

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>>688946
Wow, this is a helpful image because even little things like dishes not being washed is frustrating for me. Thank you for sharing. I wanted to try the subtle art of not giving a f*ck but I toreented it initially and I don't do well with e-reading. I'll buy it though!

>>688943
No, it was super easy, mostly because I already say self-loathing statements out loud, so it was easier for me to interrupt them. Sometimes my self hatred becomes so overwhelming I have little outbursts like "Gah, I fucking hate my life, fuck my life, why am I so cringey??!", So it's actually easier to interrupt those thoughts rather than if they were internal. I am not really a firm believer of the corny "Always be positive, you're perfect, everything is okay in your life" cause it's really not, but at least I can be realistic about what I do have and be grateful for it (and trust me, I am an extremely negative person, because I've been through a lot)

I'll share a pic of the page. In the book she encourages a gratitude journal but since I hate doing corny shit like that, it's easier to say the things out loud.

No. 689745

>>622832
I know this is an old post, but I wanted to add one point against this. Think about all the artificial fertilizer and runoff that comes from the crop fields used to feed the animals bred for slaughter. Animals don’t live off of air. Currently more than half the U.S. grain and nearly 40 percent of world grain is being fed to livestock rather than being consumed directly by humans. All of that farmland is producing mono crops which is a huge factor in soil degradation. Add the toxic sewage that is produced from the factory farms and the meat industry is absolutely horrid for the environment. If everyone adopted a vegetarian lifestyle those farmlands can be converted to producing food for people, and if more progressive policies were put into place like farming based on permaculture principles or even if vertical hydroponic vegetable farms were utilized more we could begin to rebuild our soil and wean off of our dependence on artificial fertilizers. This would have a huge beneficial impact on the environment.

No. 689747

>>689745
Same fagging, but we should also start composting and reusing human waste to create fertilizer for crops. If you are interested, the book The Humanure Handbook by Joseph Jenkins is a really eye opening read.

No. 689903

>>688946
Changing my outlook on things like pic related has helped me so much ever since developing post traumatic stress disorder and a general anxiety disorder. I still have moments of panic and fear, which brings me to go into toddler brain mode, and it has been extremely helpful to rationalize why I feel this way. If I'm overwhelmed, I list things I've recently done most would consider stressful, even the littlest things I excuse as a reason why I might be feeling anxious, such as the fact I haven't felt anxious in a while or the fact I ate something I usually don't eat.

I have a checklist of things I try to run through my head during times of distress, I always start with asking myself if I drank enough water for the day, if I slept enough, if I exercised lately… Etc, usually one of those three things is the reason, and I remind myself it's fine, I don't have to remedy things so quickly so feeling like shit at the moment is expected. I usually end up feeling a tad relaxed after going through that exercise.

No. 689911

it didn't make a drastic change, but someone said "I'm not afraid of trying and failing, I'm afraid of not trying". whenever I'm afraid of trying something, I remind myself of that.

No. 690028

>>689911
Something along those lines, whenever I really get into a band and start looking up interviews the frontman/woman always says "If I hadn't have started/continued making this music I think it'd be a net loss for the world" or "If I didn't try I'd never make the music I'd want the world to have" - something along those lines. It sounds egotistical if you don't know the core idea behind it, but it's more of a "If I don't, who will?" thing. Many people who do important things think that if they hadnt have tried out their ideas it'd be one less thing happening in the world, and I try to remember that whenever I think an idea I have is 'stupid' or something else.

No. 690699

I used to internalize negative feedback overly easily in the past, for example, if someone told me that something that I had done was disappointing, I immediately thought that it meant that I was a disappointment. I managed to changed this by thinking what the person's comments say about them, and not me

No. 730638

I should believe in myself, do things, and stop being so harsh on myself.

No. 730737

I went from being a shy kid to being a teen with a bunch of diagnosed mental health issues. The mix of that and probably bullying left me with this stream of thought where surely everywhere I go total strangers must think horribly of me? I mean that makes sense right? I convinced myself that I knew every judgement they must be making or every bitching session that must happen after I leave the room. If I was out of the house and interacting with people it was just a constant thing I let run through my head unquestioned, unchallenged.

Truth is, everyone is generally wrapped up in their own life/worries. You can't read peoples minds. You might as well take strangers at face value and assume the person smiling at you isn't 'secretly hating you'. There's also a weird element of simultaneously thinking too highly of yourself if you believe strangers walk away from small interactions still thinking about you afterwards.

All those things might seem painfully obvious to some but when you have low confidence it's amazing how much time you'll spend entertaining those thoughts. I let my mood be dragged down by those thoughts for a whopping 2 decades before truly questioning them.

No. 730932


No. 731060

>>730932
I think I wrote that post late lastnight? Sounds like me at least lol. I assure you that I dont live in a world that's a mix of The Truman Show and What Women Want. I'm not that interesting, I can't read minds and I'm not the centre of the world.

No. 731128

>>730932
Woman with crippling confidence issues located

No. 731133

>>730737
What if you have strangers directly staring at you with a disgusted expression? I mean people standing right near you and looking you in the eye, not from a distance.

No. 731156

>>731133
Are you saying you experience that or are you asking about that as a hypothetical?

No. 731157

>>731156
The former

No. 736280

If people can convince themselves of the many diverse beliefs in the world, some which are outright bizarre, I can learn to think differently, more healthily than I do. The human mind has lots of potential for change so there's hope for me yet

No. 736282

>>736280
kek no. even the people with bizarre beliefs are consistent and will be set in their ways as they age.

No. 736294

>>736282

>>736280
Don't listen to them anon, you can change your beliefs anytime. Depression can be managed, your emotions can be managed, you can become a healthy and better person. Do your best!

No. 736305

From my professor
>There's no such thing as perfect research
I was sperging over trying to get a perfectly done study for a publication.
>Science isn't broken its just really fucking hard
This from a lot of misinformation in fields it makes it hard sometimes. There is no perfect research study but damn if there aint better ones than others.

The biggest one in general is something along the lines of "not being afraid of being wrong" so I find myself willing to let go and accept new information a lot easier because I don't attatch it to my ego. My goal is to learn the correct thing not just be correct so i can be correct later kek…

also pink pill and Dworkin hit me like a ton of bricks

No. 736315

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This in my household was used as a way of life because land of the rising sun people be like that. Its kind of taken as a philosophy book in Japan…. This was mandatory learning for us as kids kek.

Basically the biggest takeaways I had with it were about having varied education in order to do one subject well. Arts are as important as war because lessons can all translate together. It is as important to know small things as big, shallow as deep… Etc. Think if you are a writer you want to know about the earth and clothing construction in order to create a realistic story and world. Every trade requires outside knowledge to thrive.


The other was in fighting I suppose the best translation is "long sword short sword" technique which takes from the way samurai used katana (longer blade used in large battle fields) and wakizashi (shorter blade, often used in closer fights developed to use indoors more easily) in which is applied in life. Your long sword is your primary talents and your short is a behind the scenes but still equally valuable talent. They are both used in your life. Thus someone's hobbies in art can come into play if they have a job in a corporate field. Etc….

The third is the timing for everything. That everything peaks and falls and we must adapt for it. In my life I have had to "switch fighting techniques" a lot more than I feel the average person has. But being sensible about having to be honest with ones self and know what "time" it is in order to adapt is essential.

I hope anons can relate to this in some ways. It makes change easier for me as well as parts of copium as a human being

No. 736356

>>736282
Nta but why are we shitting on posts in this thread lately? Any sign of hope gets lazily shit on or called a cope.

Any other thread (minus the positivity one lol) would be cool to spread your cynical views in but let's not crap up this thread with it.

No. 736555

>>736356
Because ppl need to justify that they've given themselves up by telling others that it's useless

No. 736585

This quote: every second is a chance to turn it all around.

No. 736647

I know it's silly but when I was a kid my bro-in-law told me that people far stupider than me manage to navigate through the airport on a daily basis when I was scared about traveling alone. Now…I kind of apply that logic to anything I'm afraid of. Afraid of driving? People stupider than me definitely drive. Afraid I can't learn another language? A lot of bilingual people are dimwits. It's a bit pretentious but it works….

No. 736661

This is not really an idea but it changed my life. When I was i high school and didn't know what I wanted to study in college, there was a presentation held by some scientist from cern and he said he never thought he'd make it as a scientist, that all teachers praising him were wrong and deluded and he was afraid that they were going to see through him and see he is just a hack and doesn't know anything, and he wanted to be a scientist but he was sure he wasn't capable of it. So he told us if he could do it, anyone can. And I know it's cringe but I struggled to hold my tears back because that's exactly how I felt, I wanted to study science but I thought a scientist is a very smart and capable person aka not me so I looked for other adjacent options but when I heard his speech I decided to become a scientist.

No. 736741

>>736282
Have you never seen a born again christian go from an absolute degenerate druggie to a decent person? Or the opposite, someone having their worldview shattered by a traumatic event and becoming cynical? Othello wasn't jealous, his ideal in desdemona was just ruined.

I have a strong distaste of this imageboard crab mentality, and thought it was just limited to scrote /r9k/ and the like. Maybe I should move on and find something else to do.

No. 736854

>>736356
Because doomer zoomers think that lack of initiative and fatalistic cynicism are an actual personality, and it's easier to give up on yourself and reject the possibility of improvement than actually think for yourself and put the work in to better yourself.

No. 736968

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>>736294
>>736356
>>736555
>>736741
>>736854
Thank you all for speaking up for me against that anon. I agree with you guys. Actually the reason I posted is because I already have been seeing my life changed once I came to this belief.
I'm recovering from depression and already my way of thinking has made a lot of progress. When I was in classes I started appreciating the world more and what I learned of it. Since then, I see life as worth living and even in my low points haven't gone back to wanting to die. What's more, in cognitive behavioral therapy the whole idea is learning to improve your thinking by knowing its links to your beliefs and actions. Pic related showing the cognitive triangle. I'd heard all that before but one day it just clicked. Ever since I've been trying harder instead of giving up when it's slightly difficult, I notice change in my thinking already by applying the tools from therapy. It's slow but it's real and possible.
Lastly, this may be cheating but if you've ever gotten high, you may notice you take a whole new world view. Even though it's from drugs, that showed me that I don't need to view the world from a locked-in perspective of pessimism and limits. There are infinite other ways to see it and like you anons said, people change all the time. I think working on habits and self-talk is helping me to change how I think already; it's a lot more positive trending. I know it's a blog but it's relevant itt and I want to give hope that that belief really did change my life and maybe can for others too.
I personally think the human mind is very flexible as in it can do almost anything. But how you make that happen probably varies depending on the goal. Lucky for me I'm under 25 so I'm literally still developing which may help things with changing my brain.

No. 736989

>>736968
I also want to clarify that bizarre beliefs can mean anything. I remember finding out that people can create Tulpas, it's basically giving yourself mental illness though lol. Like creating DID. But I'm fascinated that it actually works. I think it goes to show our minds really can be utilized in our favor, but we should aim for healthy thinking and not delusions like that which could ruin your life

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No. 779532

Re-connecting with nature. Being outdoors, going for a walk, listening the birds chirping, feeling the grass, the flowers, looking up to the sky; it's vital for my wellbeing

No. 779755

I struggle a lot with self loathing and guilt about my real or perceived negative impact on others. For a very long time I truly believed that it was morally correct to hate myself because I needed to be aware of and suffer for my flaws and the ways I've hurt others.
I knew that killing myself is more wrong than remaining alive because it would hurt others. But the big realization was that, because I have to stay alive, being self loathing and guilty also hurt the people around me by making me a suboptimal family member, friend, and participant in society. Even though my hatred was directed purely inward it still led to toxic behavior.

Thus, getting over my self hatred and developing a healthy sense of self is morally correct because it will benefit other people and help me avoid hurting others.

In a similar vein, after having an emotionally cathartic experience while tripping on shrooms, I realized that loving myself couldn't be wrong or impossible because self love is the birthright of every living thing. The nature of life is to fight to survive and reproduce which is self love in its most base form. So not only did I realize I'm capable of loving myself, but also I have a boundless spring of self love within me that's just difficult for me to perceive because of my mental issues and the fact that human brains are wired to make us feel the need for social acceptance on a life-and-death level just like food and water.

I still struggle every day to internalize these ideas and break harmful thought patterns but I have much more hope than I ever thought I would because at least it feels possible now.

No. 780500

>>779755
You really had that important insight on shrooms? Nice. I thought that was just a myth, when I took shrooms everything looked yellow and that's it.
Anyway, you're absolutely on the right path, your insights are spot on, and I'm proud of you.

No. 782826

>>780500
Thank you anon, it's very nice of you to say that. I didn't have that coherent insight when I was actually tripping, I pieced it together in the following months while processing the event.

I was tripping for the 1st time with some friends at one of their houses, and as I was approaching peaking some uncomfortable things happened that made me intensely anxious (not actually uncomfy, just uncomfy if you're on shrooms). I finally got it together enough to go to the bathroom and the sense of relief I felt at being alone was near-ecstatic. I can't quite explain what happened next, possibly this happened because my friend's old house reminded me of the houses I grew up in, but while alone in the bathroom I started thinking of my greatest past trauma but it was in a good way. I felt very connected and empathetic towards my past self and for the 1st time I realized how strong I was to make it through what happened to me. Before then I avoided thinking about it and when I did I felt like a useless selfish person who was just saved by other people but it was a lot more than that. I cried my makeup off with happy tears.

Feeling that strong connection and affection for my past self was so peaceful and grounding, it really felt like feeling true self love for the first time. As stupid as it sounds, feeling that and knowing it exists changed me even when the feeling faded. And the experience of feeling empathy for my past self gradually allowed me to reexamine a lot of things in a new light.

No. 782835

>>782826
Nta but I really enjoyed your posts

No. 782913

>>782835
seconded

No. 783387

>>779755
I had a similar revelation on shrooms. I found myself thinking of my self, body and mind, as a daughter I was verbally and physically abusing and neglecting with my self hatred and lack of self care, just because I was disappointed with how I turned out, and I realised I shouldn't be doing that. But not just as a metaphorical idea, because I was tripping it felt very literal. It wasn't as happy as yours, but I feel like it was still good to realise and just as effective.

No. 784169

>>779755
>spring of self love within me
I came to these same realizations through masturbation, no drugs involved. A new way of doing it felt unexpectedly incredible and left me contemplating everything I do in a new light; the feeling is with me to this day as a source of strengh and self-confidence.

No. 784333

>>782826
>>783387
How much did you both take? I heard you have to take what's considered an unsafe dose to achieve that kind of result at times.

No. 784337

>>779755
>>782826
Anon, thank you for sharing this. I saved some parts. In the future I would like to try mushrooms as well, I've been journaling and thinking about what I want to achieve during the trip, and you gave me another perspective.

No. 784437

>>784333
I'm >>783387 and I don't know what the effective dose would have been because they were just a handful of dried psilocybin cubensis. On the spectrum of trips I've had it was on the milder end. Maybe I made it sound a bit like an ego-loss experience but it wasn't anything like that. I was talking to people and acting all normal the whole time.

I don't know what an unsafe dose of shrooms would be. I imagine it's very different for everyone.

No. 784884

>>784437
Thank you anon. I guess I was thinking about LSD more - you can't exactly tell how much psylocybin you'll end up getting with shrooms. The trips are said to be a bit different as well.

No. 793539

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You can literally be another person tomorrow. You just need to compromise and change your dangerous, damaging, and self sabotaging behaivors. Start loving yourself, stop feeling guilty, stop that negative self talk. If those things come back shut them up. It's easy, I promise it is. Smile more. Complain less.

No. 793547

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This will sound shitty, but I'm going through a breakup right now, and as much as I love Mitski, her passion for music, her voice, her lyrics- I think I'm ready to let her go. In fact I'm ready to let any sad music that I've been listening in the past 10 years go, because sad music makes me sad, kek. It's so obvious, but sadness makes you sad.

Mitski's lyrics in particular are very "I have no self esteem and I'm a woman with 0 self that lets emotionally unavailable lovers stomp all over her" energy. I'm tired of that, and I'm tired of shitty scrotes. I only want happiness from now on!

No. 793556

>>793547
adding to this, I don't watch youtube anymore (other than garrett watts pls don't ask me why). Watching youtube, specially gaming youtubers or youtube videos about videogames I haven't even played was such a big, biiiig procastination source for me. Now I just want to work out 24/7 lol, wish me luck!

No. 793557

Glory doesn't come without risk or hate from people that allegedly "care for you"

No. 793562

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I learnt to complain way less, and just smile!

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>>793562
this also helps me out everyday!

No. 793566

There is no point in chasing happiness because you will always move the goal post and never be satisfied. Happiness is temporary. Do you know what you are sure of most of the time that rarely changes? The shit you are willing to tolerate in life, so chase after the shit that's the least worst to you.

This really changed my life and I'm honestly I'm happier than I've ever been just by controlling the garbage in my life to be the type of garbage that I'm willing to deal with. The image of what's the least terrible thing is so much more clear to me, and therefore easier to work towards attaining.

No. 793568

>>793556
good luck with the workouts anon! proud of you for dropping music that carries so much negativity, sometimes it can really be the little things that keep us sad, like a wound we won’t stop touching.

No. 793572

I've had a problem recently with assuming that every friend that stops talking to me online stopped talking to me because I'm a bad person or something. But I realized that that's not always the case and sometimes they're simply just not meant for me, or we've just grown distant.
It seriously used to fuck me up. I would get so depressed every time.

No. 793591

You can be beautiful, loving, adorable, and amazing, all you want. But if the scrote is emotionally available, doesn't commit, and can't make up their mind, he's not worth it. Yes, even if he looks and acts like the perfect man. There's no perfect man, every guy has its problems.

This is hard to admit for me, after thinking the man of my dreams loved me and then told me he never did. Lol. He always acted so sweet and loving. I guess his anxiety got the best of him.

No. 793601

Scrotes ain't shit

Jk, I think loving myself really changed my life. Other people suck, you're a queen. Idk what I was originally going to write really, I opened the thread and forgot ugh, but you get the idea. Love yourself first

No. 793602

>>793601
Fuck sorry I remember what I wanted to write now
I think the first love you have is not the person you first date, or the person you give your virginity to first, or your first kiss. I think the first love is truly the first person you feel so many things for, you change your bad sides for, and you're willing to do so many things for. Unfortunately, those people often do not consider us their first love. I am so goddamn disapointed with life, really. It's their shit, it's not your fault, heal your heart and move on queen. And never settle for less than the love you deserve.

No. 793633

I used to worry about the long term future but nowadays I barely care about it and feel antsy about the immediate future after realizing how life is so short. There's so many people planning for years in advance when we don't even know if we'll even survive tomorrow. Nowadays I don't get anxious about my career but whether or not I'll get into a car accident because of how common they are.

Also idgaf about scrotes or dating or children especially but I feel like the way things are, that parents are likely to marry out of convenience and to divorce. I feel like a number of people are so desperate to have children that their standards fall to the wayside and they pick whoever is decent and will stick around until the kids are birthed in order for them to have kids before their fertility is gone. This goes for people who are frantically dating in their late 20s to early 30s–not sure if anyone else has sensed the desperation in this crowd but it's kind of concerning ngl. You expect to put in a ton of effort with actively dating (desperate in itself ngl) and eventually find the right guy through it. I think it's moreso just being disappointed over and over so that your standards fall at least a little bit and a man who seems even relatively better than the others and appears 'serious' aka desperate to have kids appears as a "soulmate" or the "perfect match" compared to all of the shit men.

No. 793922

there's no point in feeling guilty about being chronically ill or getting assistance for it, it isn't going to go away, and if you don't get the help when you need it, you're going to cost the tax payers even more later when you have to go on dialysis and get your feet cut off
keep your feet, take the help, and don't tell anyone you don't have to

No. 793964

I recently realized that the woke left are (usually) spoiled brats, especially the Berners. Abandoning all that nonsense and peaking was so fucking liberating. I feel like I don't have to live in fear anymore.

No. 793973

>>793922
what about chronic depression though?

No. 793991

>>793973
I would assume feeling guilty about that would make it worse, so probably don't do that

No. 794025

>>793991
I was made feel guilty by some asshole who told me I'm too depressed to be loved, so yeah.

No. 794171

>>794025
I feel it, everyone I know thinks people like me who get disability should be ashamed, you're only really disabled if you're in a wheelchair apparently

No. 794187

>>793964
Context? What were you living in fear of?

No. 794196

>>794025
kek not you again too-depressed-chan

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these boomer memes

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>>813552
ok thats all of my boomer memes
im out

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YouTube algorithm working its magic and a video about being okay not having a career popped up. This is one of the comments and this speaks to me right now. I'm in a retail management position because it pays well and it doesn't require too much effort. The job takes enough out of me that I don't have much time/energy to work on things I'm passionate about. I gotta get out of there.

No. 814192

>>814185
what video is it from?

No. 814201

>>814192
This one here!

No. 814223

This video helped me remind myself why I self sabotage and how to (hopefully one day) break it. I think I'm more afraid of being successful and losing it than outright failing.

No. 814687

>>814223
I recommend this one too, it's very helpful! This guy's channel is good in general, mostly art related though.

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You can't control anything outside of yourself besides your own feelings and actions

No. 1140981

>>1140948
so true nonnie stoicism ftw

No. 1140989

>>1140948
I really like this gif, super cute

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Based early concept for Sonic's slogan

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>>1141069
Not bad sanic. I've been reflecting on a similar concept. A fitness instructor I like said something along the lines of "The only reason you won't get results is if you don't want it bad enough. It's okay to not want it bad enough yet, but only if it's not because of self-limiting beliefs." It's basically "if he wanted to he would" but taken outside the concept of dating. If you really want to learn something, if you really want to get fit, find a new job, move to a new location, meet new people, you will find a way. Too many perfectly capable people let themselves waste away in shitty scenarios simply because they've already decided they "can't."

No. 1141084

>>1140981
Is it stoicism or mindfulness or both? Legit question

No. 1141085

>>1141069
This is why he goes FAST

No. 1141087

>>1140981

I had reconnected a couple of years ago to my father after around 8 years of zero contact (I was a minor and our mother refused to acknowledge his existence, and we moved around a lot to not let him find out where we actually lived looking back on it) and hearing him talk about the pain of not seeing your children with no hope of seeing them again broke my heart. He has a very stoic attitude towards life, and at first my instinct was to help him process the pain, because "he was shutting it out".

The reality is that he doesn't need to process the pain. I spent so much of my time self flagellating or wallowing in the painful feelings that I thought there was no other way people can live through things.

I really admire him and through him I saw the true value of stoicism. Once you let go of the feelings that chain you, it's truly a blissful life to live, knowing that no matter what happens you'll get through it.

It's really hard because of my emotional baggage but even miles away I can tell it's truly a beacon of hope.

No. 1141108

>>1141087
Your beacon of hope dad who cared but also didn't care too much cause hes woke.. nonnie he's full of shit. Too many women reconnect with dads and put them on the worlds most undeserved pedestal like this.

No. 1141137

It's not an "idea" but: accepting that my "good friend" of 20+ years was abusive towards me the whole time. I felt so guilty over how bad I felt hanging out with her, like I was a terrible person not worthy of having friends because I didn't even appreciate the ones I had. I didn't realize how bad she treated me, and how much it affected me, until I described things she did to me to other people a few years ago after she moved away.
Only after being distanced from her for a few years I've been able to heal and understand I needed the healing… because of her. I feel so free now.

Having bad friends is worse than being alone.

Even without friends you can get social contact at work, from family, join a club, going to public places and just exist around other people, and talk to people online. Until you can make new better friends.

No. 1141278

>>1141069
Freakin saved this, thanks sonic, my mom tells me the same thing actually

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Kill your baby, don't be retarded like omocat was. Done is better than perfect.

No. 1142090

>>1142059
What’s the story behind this?

No. 1142100

>>1142090
I'll just link you the video. He explains it pretty well

No. 1142114

>>1141084
Nta but I've heard this concept defined as "radical acceptance" which was first given that term in DBT (dialectical behavioral therapy) but has roots in Buddhism/mindfulness as well as Stoicism. So yes, both.

No. 1142116

>>1142100
Thank you!

No. 1142117

"To be truly radical is to make hope possible rather than despair convincing." Really tired of all the doomsaying that's become popular in media and among people at large when it's only businesses and governments that profit from society's mass fear, anxiety and scrabbling for meaning. Optimism is a rarity these days, and yet we're living in an unprecedented time full of so many opportunities, luxuries and securities. To see beauty in the world and dare to hope instead of buying into the apocalyptic narrative is a wonderful thing.

No. 1142119

>>1142117
You sound like my brother (it's a compliment)

No. 1142124

>>1142117
Optimism is a rarity these days and it's one of my default states that happened due to so many bad things. If I ain't got hope I've got nothing. My ex use to always call me childish for being optimistic but I'd rather be considered childish than miserable like him. I mean I am miserable at times but why put that energy out there the way I do with joy.

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>>1142119
Samefag, just remembered he borrowed me this book a while ago. I should finally read it.
He said it changed his views, made him more optimistic. He said I'd like it because it's based in statistics.

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reading this as a teenager flicked a switch in my brain

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>>1142148
and this

No. 1142151

>>1142148
Where is this from? I tried searching but to no avail.

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>>1142152
Thank you nonnie. Just finished reading it. I would have never guessed a think piece like this would be written in 2014.

No. 1142164

>>1142117
Good stuff

No. 1142177

>>1142149
I would really like to hear romanianon comment on this, I'm curious what she has to say about it

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>>1142059
Kind of related, this book really helped me actually create instead of getting stuck with an idealized version of my ideas. Namely she talks about how if you have inspiration and don’t actually do anything with the idea soon, you will lose it forever. Another one will come around, but that one will be lost. Remembering it really helps me get off my ass and actually draw.

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>>1142183
I really recommend this book as well. Art & Fear: Observations On the Perils (and Rewards) of Artmaking
by David Bayles and Ted Orland

No. 1143584

"Same things make us laugh, make us cry." - Big Smoke, 2004

No. 1148130

what you allow continues

No. 1148422

>>1141080
I don't understand your conclusion. If you really wanted to do something, you'd find a way to do it. So if you're still sitting around not doing it, maybe it's not something you actually want to do. You just feel like it's something you "should" be doing.



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