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No. 605642

A thread to discuss everything about cancel culture and our experiences and opinions about it

Some fun questions:
Are you pro cancel culture? Anti cancel culture? Or would you rather not engage in it?
Do you watch it from far away or actively seek it or participate on it?
What are the benefits and side effects of cancel culture in your opinion?
Has someone you like/someone you know/someone you follow ever been cancelled? Did it affect them/your opinion of them in any way?
Has cancel culture in any way changed your views or actions in personal life/social media? Example: quitting or regulating social media, being more conscious around certain people etc
Have you ever been cancelled or been afraid of getting cancelled?

Or whatever else you would like to share about it. Post away!

No. 605645

I made this thread because recently a friend of mine told me about this dude we both know that has a phobia of getting cancelled. He basically is a full on misogynistic piece of shit dude eho thinks is smarter than anyone else but the key here is that on social media he calls himself a "male feminist". We then discussed this together and said how much of a red flag that is. I wonder if farmers here have other opinions or fun stories.

Also forgot to put on the OP: who is your favorite cancellation or whatever?

No. 605648

Cancel culture is trash. Its just mob mentality. People's live are ruined over stupid bullshit that is usually taken out of context. Even when it isn't, the "punishment" never actually fits the crime. And people are so awfully gleeful about it. I saw a video of what was clearly a homeless mentally ill crackhead stumbling around in the street shouting racial slurs and people were talking about how horrible and privileged she was and to find her employer. Like lmao this crackhead has no employer dumbass. I was raised not to bully homeless people, but if its a white lady its ok I guess.

Absolute trash is what it is and anyone who participates is the ultimate scum of the earth.

No. 605649

I think it's good if it's deserved and most of the time it is.

No. 605650

>>605649
Why? You've never made a mistake in you're life? Are you the ultimate paragon of morality? You never in your life have been angry or rude in public? Who are you to judge other people? MOST of the time, facts are actually left out. Cancel culture has no due process.
You social media sick zoomers are disgusting.

No. 605658

Seeing Gabbie Hanna cancelled seemed really justified to me. I started off enjoying her content but the more videos I watched the more I got this gross feeling about her and the way she treats others. For her to finally get called out for how manipulative she is while always playing the victim seemed well deserved. She needed to be held accountable for the shit she does.

No. 605661

>>605642
Cancel culture is weird because some people get "cancelled" (spoiler: they never actually do) and others are never brought up. Some people want a wider celebrity culture that is free of sin but some get a free pass because they're "just like that".
Sense8 got cancelled for making the characters of color suffer more or some shit (I never watched it) but I don't know if Trailer Park Boys would get cancelled for making light of children getting drunk.

>>605658
Is that cancel culture or just people realizing they don't want to support an asshole?

No. 605671

>Are you pro cancel culture? Anti cancel culture? Or would you rather not engage in it?
- I'm anti-cancel culture because the mobs are always co-opted by people who want to use it for a power trip and gaining authority.

>Do you watch it from far away or actively seek it or participate on it?

- I don't participate. I like to think that calling out those people who deserve a "canceling" like rapists, child abusers and thieves isn't part of "canceling culture" which in my mind refers to trying to publicly humiliate someone by callous means over minuscule offenses.

>What are the benefits and side effects of cancel culture in your opinion?

- First of all it kills creativity because people are too preoccupied with stressing over possibly offending someone. As an artfag I've witnessed enough people lock their account or delete it altogether because petty people are always looking for a reason to cook up a drama. Secondly it breeds constant, exhausting conflict that affects peoples' mental wellbeing because they have to constantly be outraged over things they necessarily don't have much understanding in. Third, it doesn't give people a chance to learn from their mistakes. The endgame of cancellation is to depersonalize someone and that can be traumatizing and doesn't leave room to improve and be treated like a human being. Fourth, it doesn't encourage open discussion where different viewpoints can be taken into consideration and form new ideas.

>Has someone you like/someone you know/someone you follow ever been cancelled? Did it affect them/your opinion of them in any way?

- I've had people I know be cancelled over stupid, meaningless crap taken out of context. Didn't change my opinion on them. It just made me hate the angry mob mentality more.

>Has cancel culture in any way changed your views or actions in personal life/social media? Example: quitting or regulating

- Made me stop using social media altogether sans an occasional food post or something. I privated everything and create content anonymously now.

>social media, being more conscious around certain people etc

Have you ever been cancelled or been afraid of getting cancelled?
- I'm constantly afraid of being cancelled over some psycho digging up some problematic tweet I made in 2010 or something. Anything can qualify as a "deserved" callout now. Jokingly used the word "faggot" in 2009? Kiss your homophobic ass goodbye. Colored a dark-skinned character 0.5 shades too light? Put that whitewashing bitch to the coffin. Drew a genderbent character? The transphobe must die! There's no end to it, you might think "well I'm the Mother Mary of moral righteousness, it's not going to happen to me" but I've seen so many woke idiots cancelled by their own over not being neurotic about inclusivity, nobody is safe.

No. 605674

Cancel Culture is just modern witch hunting and I am not a fan of it. I hate how everybody is afraid to speak up and all artist just parrot the dame shit because if they say anything not mainstream they lose their work. The worst is when shit from years ago, when people were dumb teens, gets brought up again just to cancel people.

No. 605675

>>605674
>Cancel Culture is just modern witch hunting
Hard agree, well said

No. 605678

>>605661
Good question. Seems like everybody has their own opinion.
At what point do we recognize that people can change?
How old does the shit people are getting called out for have to be until its no longer relevant to who they are now?
Are there things that no matter how old are unforgivable? Obviously there are some, but when is the line drawn?
If they did something horrible but never made the same mistake, should they still be held accountable?
For me.. I feel like if it's something the person is still actively doing or participating in it makes it a lot harder to look past.
But if it was a one time deal that doesn't mean they shouldn't own up to their mistake

No. 605681

Cancel culture is disgusting because of how out of proportion the reaction is to the "crime".
james charles got called out for using an indian song in a tiktok while making a funny face because appearantly it's racist. people get cancelled over using aave.
but then you have people like 6ix9ine who get away with shit. he's not like an A-list celeb so idk why he doesn't get called out for his actions.
Actually i know, because cancelling only works if the fanbase cares about the wrong-doings. its so easy to make someone hate, for example doja cat, for doing something wrong because most of her fans hold her to a standart (like the racism scandal that happened a while back). but it doesn't work with celebs who actually should get cancelled because their actions are already known, and their fans decided to be fans despite those actions.

No. 605682

I would rather not engage in it, but I seethe at the moment people start cancelling literal children and teenagers. I absolutely hate when someone tries to butt in going "They know what they meant." and "When I was that age/I'm the same age/I'm younger and I know not to say those mean things. They deserve it." Seriously fuck off with that shit. People have different backgrounds, they grew up around different communities of people. They could have shit family members and that's all they know. It doesn't make the person saying they know better any better.
Don't get me started at the point people start doxing the person. Keep that to yourself unless someone's literally breaking the law.

No. 605685

It bothers me that women are usually predominantly the victims of cancel culture. In the rare case of men being "cancelled" too it's usually for serious reasons, but the actions of these women are given the exact same weight. To the cancellers, they will go after a woman for making vaguely racist remarks with the same ferocity as they do a man who is accused of pedophilia and abuse. I think it's getting dangerous to give all of these transgressions the same degree of severity, and it's hurting women.

No. 605686

i'm just tired of people writing these long ass posts about how someone is a shit person and you see the tagged tweet is from like 2010. like you clearly went through this hoes history just to find something bad, why else would you be back in their history that far? it's fucking stupid, they don't care about what is being said, they clearly are looking for something to critique.

No. 605693

>>605649
honestly no matter how many times you cancel people over and over, it won't bring anything (see: jeffrey star and other dozens of celebrities who are awful people but still have a platform to this day) and the only people who get the shit end of the stick are those who get their doxx revealed, workplaces/schools/etc. contacted and their lives literally ruined. you're supposed to grow up and learn from your mistakes, not get bullied endlessly over it and have your education taken away over slipping up and saying a slur in a song once. social media is literally cancer

No. 605874

>>605681
>>605682
>>605685
Agreed here. Instead it's used against D-list celebrities or regular people who made an offensive joke in 2009.

Roman Polanski is still directing and Chris Brown is still played on the radio, among many others. Cancel someone who's actually a piece of shit, not some random edgy teenager from an Arkansas trailer park.

No. 606075

>>605685
Exactly. Men get called out for being straight out rapists and grooming underage girls but the bigger fireworks seem to always be saved for calling out women for doing something much less dangerous and destructive. Men always have their hordes of "anti-SJW" dudebros defending their asses but women never get that, they just have to stand up and swallow the social media outrage calling them out for whatever reaching claims thrown at them. The amount of hate JK Rowling got was completely disproportionate to what a lot of men have gotten for speaking up.

>>605693
Also this. Despite JK Rowling getting hated on hard it's not going to ruin her because her media empire is too widespread to ever be taken down by a bunch of seething trannies and their supporters. The ones who get annihilated irreparably are those who don't have a lot of influence and thus couldn't even cause much damage and instead lose their sense of security, trust and livelihood over some stupid mistake or disagreement. It's not about educating people and allowing them to learn, it's about feeding their egos.

No. 606082

>>605693
Look at tana mongeau . At this point she’s literally trying to get cancelled because it brings her attention and revenue. I don’t follow that bitch but she always shows up on my social media with some type of controversy and repeated copy and paste apology. If 6ix9nine can literally rape children and come out jail immediately after with a music video with nicki Minaj, no one can get canceled.

The only time canceling has ever worked was with Austin jones , because he turned out to be a fucking weirdo in general and he wasn’t all that popping to begin with.

No. 606117

cancel culture is morally and ethically wrong, in the perfect context (where people cannot create art because they will be censored), it reeks of totalitarianism. however, cancel culture is pretty overstated when someone is just simply called out by the masses, but the public is bloodthirsty so its always fucked.

cancel culture is also relative, hence why indie and pop artists face more repercussions (from their fans and media) than a black metal band or a rap artist. hence why tekashi 69 is not "cancelled" >>606082


>>605874
both of those men are cancelled by most people but their die-hard fans. and both have faced legal repercussions and coverage for their crimes (despite polanski not be extradited), no one mentions them without talking about what they did.

>>606082
going to jail is not cancelling lol

>>605649
I can't wait for the day you're actually cancelled, in the perfect context, where you can't find a job, have friends, or live normally

No. 606133

I'm a fandom artist and I got cancelled several times over the usual stuff: old mean tweets and poorly aged drawings. The first 2 times it hurt real badly, I got agitated by it and lost many art """""friends""""" (irony is, some of them were cancelled/ complained about CC). By now I'm just used to it. It helps that cancel culture is getting a big backlash now, but I had to make several changes and learn from the experience. I don't draw for/join fandoms filled with teens, I don't draw anything lgbt, I don't respond to bait, I don't post selfies or any personal info like medical problems and such. I'm a lot more wary of who I become mutual with. What sucks the most is that cancel culture fills female spaces only, and as result of my changes, my followers/friends are now mostly men. I don't hate men, and I never insult women, but I don't want to be seen as a pickme…

No. 606152

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>This person did a genuinely bad thing, let’s riot against them.
>Actually I’m tired of rioting after the 1st or 2nd day.
>Actually I don’t feel like @ing their close friends about it even if they not only know about but condone wrongdoings.
>Actually I don’t feel like directing my feelings on anywhere except Twitter even though a person’s ever-forgiving simp fans are probably on Discord or something.
>Bad person, you can hide for 4 months until we forget and after that you’ll only have a handful of people who are still mad.
Why are people like this?

No. 606162

Cancel culture isn't a real thing and anyone that thinks it is is retarded. Louis CK, Woody Allen, Chris Brown etc are still out there making movies and music. All cancel culture is is a few people getting upset at some nobody online for a few days until everyone forgets about it. How many times has James Charles been "canceled"? kek

No. 606165

>>605674
>Cancel Culture is just modern witch hunting

Don't be fucking dense. No one is even really being canceled by cancel culture. I fucking hate the witch hunting comparisons because it's no where near the same level

No. 606175

>>606165
This. Few celebrities ACTUALLY get cancelled, fans will make excuses if they have to. Even if a rich famous celebrity gets cancelled, who fucking cares? They can cry into their millions and avoid any consequences with it too. That is nothing like burning women alive for supposedly being something that literally does not even exist.

My only issue is what people determine to be cancellation-worthy, not the 'culture' itself. Eg JKR absolutely does not deserve it, because what she says is both accurate and ethically reasoned. But generally, racist/sexist/homophobic celebrities deserve to be called out and the public doesn't owe them shit. It's just something you have to take on a case by case basis.

No. 606199

All the people who participate all gleefully in this and condone the bullying of others over small mistakes are most likely the same people to break out with a massive sob story about how they were targeted over this and that and that bullying ruined their lives. It's all so hypocritical.

No. 606210

I've gotten a Twitter call out post made about me because I made it a little obvious I lurk this website and the like, basically the gist of it was that I "keep receipts" so I should be avoided. Probably lost like 5 friends over it.

No. 606307

You can only get cancelled by people in your community and if people are already out for blood. That's why woke idiots get cancelled all the time but Tekashi 6ix9ine never will.

No. 606320

>>606162
You see, the celebrity doesn't have to care about what some twitter spergs tweet about them. The only person who actually got effectively removed was Harvey Weinstein for committing legitimate, systematic crimes he could be prosecuted for. That's not the point. Cancel culture is a waste of time exactly because it doesn't affect the celebrities that actually have a platform and are able to spread their message around. It only ruins those people who are vulnerable to it and mostly undeserving of the hate. If some crazy bitch wants to get rid of you due to whatever vendetta they have, they can come up with a reason. They'll rake through your Twitter likes, find that you liked a tweet from Jeffree Star and make up shit about you being racist, homophobic and transphobic based on this damning evidence and then attach posts from you as "further proof" with the context removed. People are talking about apples and oranges and willingly ignoring the recoil cancel culture creates, when they say "y-you can't cancel a celebrity!!!" they're effectively ignoring what the real problem is. Nobody is mad that an egoistical rapper is being called out for beating his wife, people are scared that they'll be fucked over for listening to his album without knowing he was convicted for domestic violence because that's what cancel culture is about.

>inb4 Cyber Bullying Isn't Real Just Walk Away From The Screen Haha

Tell that to the people who have had their employer contacted and gotten fired because they tweeted something someone found slightly controversial and blew it out of proportion. It's not an isolated occurrence either, this happens all the time now.

No. 606325

I hate it and people who actively try to get others fired for having said something online 4 years ago while parading as morally superior are the definition of a cry bully.

No. 606326

I'm a spiteful bitch who has no social media presence so I love seeing people I don't like get shred to pieces by brain dead retards

No. 606327

I feel like people have different (main) definitions of "cancel culture", and argue with each other over it. Some people seem to primarily think of it as when public figures have their history as bad people exposed, while others primarily think of it as random people getting doxxed and fired from work because they made a post on Twitter.
I like the aspect of the community at large being able to expose someone for being a shit person, or even a full-on rapist, especially in cases where the law won't intervene. Just because something isn't technically illegal doesn't mean people have to accept it.
I'm on Lolcow, reading about people being awful regularly, so to claim otherwise would be hypocritical. Also, in those cases where someone is filmed being violent, racist or otherwise awful, I think it's good if they get exposed and fired from their jobs. Clearly, they shouldn't be in any position of authority.

What I don't like is when women get chided and harassed for stupid things, while men are basically bulletproof, but I've realized it's just a reflection of most societies loving to police women. It's some weird misogynistic cultural thing that wouldn't disappear even if "cancellation" ceased to exist. I also think it's fucked up when little kids get harassed. 99% of the time, it should be their parents getting contacted, not the children themselves.
Also, the amount of people who bend the truth, spread outright lies and/or are just doing it because they're jealous of whoever they're "cancelling" is annoying. Those ones barely even hide what they're doing, all their "receipts" tend to be innocuous shit that they need to hype up to be worse than Satan, and when you check their account, they're just as bad (if not worse) than the person.

No. 606336

I dont care about cancel culture for celebs, but the cancel culture in the cosplay/weeb community right now is bad.
People are getting canceled for enjoying a gay ship, for not enjoying a gay ship, face taping your chin, enjoying/cosplaying "problematic" fictional characters.

It's purely for clout, 95% of these issues i see in call out posts can and should be solved in private DM's, but drama posts spread so quick these days its a quick and easy way to get shares, especially if you write "this person is dangerous, share for awareness"

No. 606349

>>606336

> It's purely for clout, 95% of these issues i see in call out posts can and should be solved in private DM's, but drama posts spread so quick these days its a quick and easy way to get shares, especially if you write "this person is dangerous, share for awareness"


Nail on head.

No. 606816

>>606075
Totally agree with this post. Women are always taking accountability for this stupid shit because we're lacking the hordes of dudebros to dissuade the masses. Tbh I don't know if this reflects poorly on our gender (being so ready to accept the sjw narrative), or men have an overabundance of dudebros.

No. 608260

When it's done well, to be honest, it can be strangely cathartic. I think there are some situations where it is needed, and many other times where it isn't. I feel like when cancel culture first started gaining ground, people were a little more thorough and it didn't feel so much like an excuse to bully and harass someone just because they said "nigga" once, or rolled their eyes at a person who happened to be gay.

The policing and bitter nitpicking is when it annoys me. When someone actually takes the time to compile receipts on a person, fact checks, and isn't trying to get fame for taking down someone, that's interesting. I do genuinely want to know if someone I could be supporting is a bigot. I however don't particularly care if some retard took a dumb ass pic or used whatever word of the day is now a slur.

In a way, cancel culture has always existed, it just used to come in a more acceptable form and we called them "whistleblowers" lol.

No. 924484

Even if anyone can be a victim to social media, I think the chance of someone being cancelled is actually pretty slim, unless they hang out with a bunch of wokerino teens

No. 924485

>>924484
you necroed a year old thread for this?

No. 924488

i think cancel culture is well-deserved. I never, ever understood why at the beginning of SJWism becoming mainstream in the early 2010's, celebrities or whatever that were being attacked, didn't simply tell the 5% of their audience that were both offended and censor-happy, to eat shit.
it became normal to apologize for any trace of a shadow of wringthink, and to signal how woke and inclusive you are, and now we're there because we're cowards.

No. 924548

>>606075
I feel like people attack women more viciously is that they expect more from them… I’m saying it because most of cancel culture, the ones that get hashtags up and fuel the controversy anyway, are teenage girls… but that’s me trying to make sense of it, the world is shitty to women so I’m not surprised.

No. 924552

cancel culture is cancer
who does it?
>jealous, narcissistic, terminally online, mentally ill people with nothing better to do
who does it affect?
>people with a small online following
who benefits from it?
>image conscious liars, basically narcopaths who are always watching how they look like to other people

cancel culture:
>doesn't consider that people can change
>doesn't "anti-cancel" them if they apologize
>takes things out of context
>affects real people's livelihood unless they're already famous and rich
>does not consider people's age
>does not consider where people are coming from
>it is fake and just as bad or worse in a moral sense as making shitty tweets
>it makes normal people paranoid
>it makes people with offensive views fake
>it can easily be faked
>double standards
>encourages anti-sjw to become more offensive
>overinflates censorship

No. 924557

It's just another way for people to get high off their own farts.

No. 924566

>>924552
you just wrote a summary for OP's hw anon

No. 924568

>>924488
Yup. Plus everyone was happy to partecipate until it became clear everyone's on the chopping block. You reap what you sow, etc etc

No. 924572

Does anyone except Americans have "cancel culture"? It's definitely not a thing in my country. Maybe some other Western countries have it too?

No. 924580

>>924572
It's sort of a thing in my country as in they follow whatever the american audiences do, so if an american profile of any sort is getting cancelled then people in my country will copy that even though said person has zero relevance here.
The only time I've seen an organic cancellation in my country was when we cancelled a openly misogynistic media profile that people have been trying to get off media for 15 years so it was a sigh of relief when it finally caught on.

No. 924594

>>924548
posts in this thread complained about dudebros and as true as it is that you'll meet a lot of assholes online who defend their idol no matter what, the opposite is true in female spaces. We are way too harsh to other women tbh

No. 924682

>>924552
I agree, fuck that shit

No. 924683

>>924572
Islam?

No. 924775

Seems kind of hypocritical for anyone that participates in Lolcow threads to complain about cancel culture since a good chunk of this site is dedicated to gossiping and analyzing the behavior of specific people.

No. 924799

>>924775
On the contrary, we are afraid of it ourselves because we have seen it in action

No. 924909

>>924572
We have bullying culture I guess

No. 924916

>>924552
this entire website is cancel culture only exception is that it just isn’t politically motivated lmao

No. 924922

>>924909
>>924775
I feel like lolcow's intended purpose was just to observe weird online publoc figures' behavior via their own posts. Now newfags want to prove that anyone who is a cow "deserves it" or is "actually really evil." This was never meant to be a website to cancel anyone, despite its reputation. Just drama and discussion. Hence the rule that states no cowtipping.

No. 924937

>>924916
Nta but the cows I mostly follow aren't huge to start with and they're just an entertaining train wreck to watch from a safe distance. There's no pedestal for them to even fall from.

No. 927910

>>605645
He sounds like the kind of person who wouldn't like to live in a small town because "people know you too well". People like that are always a red flag. But cancel culture online is foul because it's total strangers who act like the rules that exist in their friend group exist everywhere. Every family, friend group, town, region, country and culture has different unwritten rules, habits and laws, and the concept that you can simultaneously do "the right thing" in the eyes of people you're directly accountable to and still be judged by someone far away who lives by different rules is absurd. And a good reason not to interact with people you don't personally know with your real name.
The reason kids used to be taught not to give their real name on the internet was to prevent some stranger from having a platform to attack you on, and know who you are.

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>>605645
>He basically is a full on misogynistic piece of shit dude eho thinks is smarter than anyone else but the key here is that on social media he calls himself a "male feminist".
Kek, of course he does.

No. 1200293

I think it's good when someone who is genuinely bad (like an irl sexual harasser) gets cancelled, and bad when like, a 14 year old gets cancelled for drawing a cartoon character holding a gun or some dumbass shit. I also hate it when someone gets dragged for something they said 10 years ago.

Another thing I hate about cancellation, (even when it's deserved) is how people on social media will parrot things without looking into it themselves. Like they'll go "oh so and so said THIS" without even the most low-effort fact-checking.

It has ABSOLUTELY changed the way I interact with social media and any text conversation. Creeps me out to think that someone I'm "friends" with could be screenshotting my words.

No. 1200309

>>1200293
>I think it's good when someone who is genuinely bad (like an irl sexual harasser) gets cancelled, and bad when like, a 14 year old gets cancelled for drawing a cartoon character
Yep, all people extrapolating this shit to the latter category has done is give more plausible deniability and ability to fly under the radar to the former. If everyone who made a cringe tweet ten years ago is ackshully just as bad as actual groomers and rapists, then the groomers and rapists get a pass to blend in better with everyone else and just say "oh yeah, I was cancelled, but everyone is cancelled for stupid things." Just look at ProJared.

No. 1522739

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I know not all nonnies here are bad, but I feel like even within the farms, just like in any radfem circle, you cannot like certain things (like anime that isn't Nana or some other boring shit like that) because now watching anime is bad. This is what made me turn into an ex radfem, you have to be a very immature adult or a literal child to not understand that you can like things and watch things despite it being "thing bad". Radfems keep saying that all women are welcome, even weird ones, but say you like x thing and you are the antichrist. Cancel culture in radfem spaces makes radical feminism extremely hypocritical and no better than other radicalized internet politics. Idgaf if anyone replies to this shitty post, I just needed to vent.

No. 1522743

>>1522739
>This is what made me turn into an ex radfem
So you ditched an ideology because of the community and not because you no longer aligned with the general beliefs of radical feminism.. I'd say that's also immature.

No. 1522759

>>1522743
I stopped aligning with radfems because they're hypocritical. Think whatever you want to believe.

No. 1522766

>>1522743
Samefag because I don't want to delete my reply. I still like some points that radical feminism makes, most of them in fact. It's the whole community that put me off and I don't think I'll be coming back. Radical feminism is a community driven ideology. I don't need any ideology to believe in what I think is right, however. I already took the best parts of it and I apply them in my life without having to call myself a name that would potentially define me. If you think that's immature, maybe look into the mirror sister.

No. 1522770

>>1522759
get off radblr where they eat eachother alive for breathing the wrong way and into an actual radfem community. however, consuming misogynistic media directly opposes radical feminism and you're kind of a brainlet if you think that pointing out misogyny in pop culture is somehow hypocritical

No. 1522781

>>1522739
Interacting with non-feninist media would make someone not a radfem. Because by watching it you allow it to influence and profit off of you, even by just exposure. It is a strict community and always will be. Everyone at some point who sees radical feminism and applies some of the practices in their life get called a not-true Scottsman about it. Most media is non-feminist ans actively goes against them. You can either double down or repent. It is not immature to double down, it means your thinking about yourself before the collective. When ideology and friendship collide it's never pretty since very few people naturally can fit into the mold of a perfect follower. If you're not a perfect follower, leaving a community that harassed you about it after doubling down was wise.

No. 1522800

>>1522770
>you're kind of a brainlet if you think that pointing out misogyny in pop culture is somehow hypocritical
That's not the issue, I don't mind being critical of media and opposing misogyny in it. What I mind is people telling me what or not to watch and then feeling personally offended when I say I liked x anime or whatever. I don't like any ideology that forces you to not interact with things that a mature adult would know how to discern the bad and wrong from. While I also hate misogyny in media, I am an adult. We still don't live in the feminist utopia that I wish we all lived in. I want to be able to enjoy things despite them being flawed and not perfect and not made with radical feminism in mind. This is why while I agree with radfems, I simply am not one.
>inb4 enjoy your shitty anime!!!!
Thanks I will!

>>1522770
At what point does the internet eco chamber affect reality? I'd say a good chunk of the new radfems irl use radblr and in fact discovered radical feminism through it. There's a connection. Whatever is said in radfem tumblr and twitter will make an impact in the real world. If social media doesn't affect reality, then how come the trans movement of twitter permeated society this much?

>>1522781
>Interacting with non-feninist media would make someone not a radfem. Because by watching it you allow it to influence and profit off of you, even by just exposure.
>It is a strict community and always will be.
>Everyone at some point who sees radical feminism and applies some of the practices in their life get called a not-true Scottsman about it.
>If you're not a perfect follower, leaving a community that harassed you about it after doubling down was wise.

This basically. Thanks anon. This is why even though I like radical feminism I could never fully consider myself one. Because of how strict it is. The infighting and the "you're not a real radfem if you do x" shit despite claiming that they accept all women no matter the background is what is destroying the movement from the inside. If this shit isn't stopped, more women will leave the movement leaving only the most insane members inside. Divide and conquer after all. and no I'm not calling radfems insane, they're very sane in fact. There's some very hateful people in the movement though. Hateful towards women and everything that doesn't fit the mold in the name of perfection within the ideology. inb4 "well I love being hateful and bitter" well enjoy your life jackass.

No. 1522811

>>1522770
Also samefag.
>you're kind of a brainlet if you think that pointing out misogyny in pop culture is somehow hypocritical
That's not the hypocritical part. The hypocritical part is saying radical feminist love and accept all women with an XX when I've seen clear examples of them bullying women out of the movement simply for disagreeing. The "we'll help all women" is not always true. It's not just radblr, it's also here when someone says they enjoyed some shit that of course doesn't fit the mold of what a perfect radfem is. Or are you telling me that the scrotal accusations when someone differs are a lie?

No. 1522833

>>1522770
>into an actual radfem community
nta but like what, lolcow? radfem communities are so hidden and far appart, I know no community except for discord servers, forums like ovarit and radblr and they're all the same.

No. 1522847

>>1522739
>Radfems keep saying that all women are welcome
>>1522811
>saying radical feminist love and accept all women with an XX
Literally when has radical feminism ever been about these things? It's never been about "loving/accepting all women no matter what", that would just make it a meaningless ideology where you can't criticize anything because some woman somewhere might like it. The 'accept all women' thing only applies to the general belief that all women deserve the benefits of feminism (equal access to abortion/divorce/protection against abuse/etc.) even if they hate feminism and think they'll never need it. But obviously if you jump into a radical feminist community going on about how you love porn or something else that's directly against their ideological views they're not going to welcome you in with open arms. I wouldn't even really call that cancel culture, you could say the same thing about any group with a defined set of beliefs.

No. 1522881

>>1522739
who got cancelled for liking a dumb anime? i don't understand why this thread got necro'd

No. 1522890

>>1522847
these anons are probs those annoying types of women who started calling themselves radfems/orbiting radfem spaces because they hated trannies but when they actually encountered core radfem beliefs they started bitching about "ideological purity"

No. 1522902

>>1522847
>>1522890
none of those anons. keep thinking whatever you want but radfems are as radicalized as any other ideology on the internet and like every other one of those they are strict as fuck and ready to cancel whoever because they said the wrong thing. Besides that though, radfeminism has a big woman hatred problem and I'm not talking just about criticizing women but legit hatred.
>>1522890
>they actually encountered core radfem beliefs
believe me when I say, radfem core beliefs are not wrong. it's the people in the radfem spaces that are a nuisance. I'm sorry to be that person but I feel groomed by radfems.

No. 1522908

>>1522890
>these anons are probs those annoying types of women who started calling themselves radfems/orbiting radfem spaces because they hated trannies but when they actually encountered core radfem beliefs they started bitching about "ideological purity"
Did you know there's people who agree with radfem core beliefs but don't call themselves radfems? Wow, what a concept. Not everyone is the gender critical terminally online edgy pickme girl you think they are. Some people really have no need to abide by an ideology despite the ideology being right. It's called being normal.

No. 1522930

>>1522890
One can agree with radical feminism core beliefs or even be crypto-like without being a radfem because to be a radfem there's a clear step by step guide of what you can and can't enjoy. I'm sorry, but while I also hate misogyny and porn, just not being able to enjoy anything (and no, I do not watch porn or fanservicey stuff. Or things that are really disgusting in general.) feels like a sad existence to live. Did I mention how some radfems hate when women marry men, have sons, or be hetero / bi? I love separatism like all of you do too but you can't simply yell at women who DO agree with radical feminism and their core beliefs but decide to do things that go "agaisnt the ideology". In any case, how is not watching anime put in the same category as donating to a women's only shelter? Like, I get it, both things contribute etc. But if you decide to do the later and not the former, you still cannot call yourself a radfem. And let me remind you, most radfems online think not watching an anime or a movie is enough to justify their name as a radical feminist. In any case, I'm done with this ideology, yes I do love me some core radfem beliefs and not just the gender critical stuff. But it's such a flawed movement that I just can't ignore the flaws anymore. Stop assuming everyone who deserts is just gender critical btw. How silly.

No. 1522934

>>1522902
>I feel groomed by radfems.
girl wtf are u talking about

No. 1522935

>>1522739
>you have to be a very immature adult or a literal child to not understand that you can like things and watch things despite it being "thing bad"
This. Honestly this whole generation (millenials and zoomers) are super immature and can't wrap their heads around how to watch things as an adult with critical thinking skills would. Everyone on the internet is just too deep into the "if you watch this thing, you get cancelled" mentality. Everything is so sanitized. I'm not talking about radfems here though, it's everyone on the internet.

No. 1522937

>>1522930
>Did I mention how some radfems hate when women marry men, have sons, or be hetero / bi?
That's my cue to not take a single thing you say seriously

No. 1522938

>>1522937
Good for you then, and good for everyone who decides to do so. But I've seen it here, and on radblr, and on 2X, and on twitter, and every other radfem space.

No. 1522942

>>1522739
I feel you, anon. This is why I don't ever self-identify as a radfem, even though I think radfems are right on a lot of things. The community is full of fake, purity spiralling political lesbians/former SJW NLOGs who never dropped the self-righteous, condescending nature and hypocritical topdyke types who have husbands in the military and shit but will try to cancel you for liking a silly cartoon. Too much mental illness. I have a way better time just reading radfem literature and minding my business.

No. 1522945

>>1522938
NTA but You fall for outrage bait all the time don’t you?

No. 1522946

>>1522945
>implying all of that is bait and not really the thoughts of people on the internet

No. 1522948

>>1522930
I say this genuinely you don’t have the critical thinking skills to be a radfem. Please don’t join any more political movements. You’re going to fall in the loons again no matter the demographic.

No. 1522951

>>1522946
>not realizing people post edgy shit to get attention and their thoughts reflect that
>thinking internet addicted retards have any bearing on real life political change.
Thanks for admitting you’ve never done any feminism irl. Enjoy being terminally online.

No. 1522952

>>1522948
>I say this genuinely you don’t have the critical thinking skills to be a radfem
k sure, you can think whatever you want about me, I'm anonymous anyway.
>>1522951
>Enjoy being terminally online.
Same goes around.

No. 1522965

>>1522739
Haha I remember trying to discuss anime on the gendercritical refugee discord and would only get passive aggressive comments in reply or be completely ignored. 0 radfems watch current season anime or they will just say some patronizing comment like "Oh I haven't watched that since I was a teenager".

No. 1523043

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>>1522948
>you don’t have the critical thinking skills to be a radfem

No. 1523110

>>1522965
why would anyone like shitty seasonal anime, or modern anime in general. Stuff like Nana at least has a plot, unlike the exciting, definitely not boring adventures of Girls Doing Nothing #3567788766

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>>1523110
Because everything has to cater to your sensibilities and you can't comprehend that people can enjoy things you don't? Grow up.

No. 1523147

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>>1522965
Once again:
>Discord - Not Even Once

Support chans, ditch Discord for good.

No. 1523148

>>1523110
>boring adventures of Girls Doing Nothing #3567788766
um actually girls doing nothing is an old trend. Nowadays it's all generic self-insert in fantasy world surrounded by hot women who wants to fuck him. get with the times baka anon

No. 1523149

>>1523110
>boring adventures of Girls Doing Nothing #3567788766
um actually girls doing nothing is an old trend. Nowadays it's all generic self-insert in fantasy world surrounded by hot women who wants to fuck him. get with the times baka anon

No. 1523155

>>1522739
You sound like one of those animecore younger zoomers that collect sonico figurines and brag about it on discord. You're not special for liking y2k moe anime aimed at men, get better taste.

No. 1523156

Modern anime sucks
>>1523149
It's either this or a million ugly reboots and sequels.

No. 1523158

>>1523110
>>1523156
>>1523155
Why are you guys pretending older, "good" anime doesn't get seethed at by these communities too? Kek

No. 1523162

>>1523110
because despite nowadays media landscape being vast but barren you can find a piece of gold every now and then? Its just the same as everywhere else. I won’t stop reading books just because there are so many shitty ones released either. or stop reading lolcow because there are so many users who annoy me when I love chans and this one ain’t that bad also >>1523147
hard agree anonymity with enforced rules just gives the best ground for discussion imo especially for media.

Back to topic; I would argue something is only cancel culture when someone is clearly having the motive to cause an outrage out of spite or power fantasy and engaging with people who do this as a hobby. Idk if it feels too forced or too much like a planned campaign it would need really good arguments to convince me depending on whats the topic. But genuinely there are so many disgusting rapists and predators out there who still roam freely living luxurious lives abusing their privileges I wish every cancelling would be directed at them instead of some rando no one cares about or idk people who’s worst offense is that they disagree with you lel

No. 1523163

>>1523158
Because the original post didn't mention that?

No. 1523166

>>1523155
You sound like an old hag, why do so many of you use "zoomer" as an insult?

No. 1523167

>>1523163
>Haha I remember trying to discuss anime on the gendercritical refugee discord and would only get passive aggressive comments in reply or be completely ignored. 0 radfems watch current season anime or they will just say some patronizing comment like "Oh I haven't watched that since I was a teenager".
? Unless anon meant they all turned 20 like this year….lol. Even >>1522739 was talking about anime itself and didn't mention any specific anime, but I guess one other anon assumed she only watched things like Lucky Star. It just seems like such a cheap cope. The modern radfem community is just full of tryhards (and often hypocritical ones), that's just how it is.

No. 1523182

>>1523166
zoomers ruined the internet, as this thread shows

No. 1523235

>>1523182
NTA. Your creepy boomer Nigels ruined the internet

No. 1523259

>>1523166
I'm not an old hag I'm a zoomer myself. As such I find myself in zoomer adjacent spaces online and I saw how younger weebs have this obnoxious relationship with anime, where it's more about the aesthetic and how retro y2k it looks rather than actually talking about said anime. I don't even think it's a generational thing but rather this is just the trendy way of being a weeb right now in the more chronically online communities. Making silly azumanga daioh/csm femcel instagram accounts, collecting figurines from 00's shows to show how cool you are, posting alien 9 pictures because it's a semi-obscure shitty ova that also adds to the cool factor. It feels like it's all about appearances and I found it funny these types of anime fans made their way to lolcow. Judging by the picture you used I made the assumption of you being the same type of person.
Interestingly enough those specific anime these weebs worship rarely appear on our anime thread because women actually talk about anime there. On the other hand all I see these girls talk about is sanrio merch and consooming more figurines. I'm not going to make this a conversation about how you're not a real weeb because that's retarded but I've never had a normal conversation with a person like that. I'm making a lot of assumptions here and I'm definitely projecting a certain type of anime fan on you but that's the impression I got from your post so disregard this if I completely missed the mark.

No. 1523292

>>1523235
kek i'm not that old

No. 1523329

>>1523259
This type of anime fan and realizing that most anime sucked made me stop watching anime altogether. Thanks to the mainstreamtization of anime, I realize I wasted ten years being into a genre I now think is mostly trash. And I'm wholeheartedly willing to admit it's trash and that Japans patriarchal fetishistic ideas influenced me in a gross way. It's like when I was finally over my weeb phase and met someone who was still a weeb IRL, albeit not a mainstream zoomer weeb, she made me cringe into the sun. Besides the weeb stuff she was a nice person I suppose. I thought, "damn other people I knew must have found me fucking insufferable"

No. 1524539

>>1523259
>posting alien 9 pictures because it's a semi-obscure shitty ova
Nta but some people do like that anime kek

No. 1524655

>>1523155
nta but you're not special for liking boring shit either

No. 1524661

>>1523155
kek of course because all female anime fans are either super sonico loving ethots or boring prudes. Get a grip, what you see on lolcow isn't always the ultimate truth.

No. 1525654

Cancel Culture? More like Cancer Culture.

No. 1525656

I don't really have any social media anymore, I only use this site and YouTube/tiktok (purely for viewing)
tbh it's kind of liberating. I feel totally anonymous. it's kind of annoying though that my retarded boomer parents post their entire lives on Facebook, if I ever get doxxed/stalked, it will definitely be because of their internet activity.



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