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No. 879749
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Foraging for ingredients is fun and feels so rewarding when you incorporate even one ingredient into your food. Picrel, chickweed is a common plant that you can use for pesto, hummus, even just salads, and you can combine it with other wild greens or ingredients of course. Dandelions in particular have a huge range of uses and are just a common weed, so finding some is pretty easy and you can use it for all kinds of things.
I wonder how foraging and other homestead activities will hold up as climate change continues, though, and what other precautions people are taking? I know many people just take extra storage like hay for animals, since grass is more sensitive to extreme weather, and invest in things that you can make in advance by preserving or fermenting, but it's daunting.
No. 879825
>>879749>I wonder how foraging and other homestead activities will hold up as climate change continues, though, and what other precautions people are taking? Yes this summer has been brutal, and the last few summers too but it's got way worse this year. Everything is taking forever to grow in my garden and my zuchinni plants shat out 2 zuchinnis before dying. I've been thinking for next year just growing root veg and only very easy plants like green beans, and sowing some edible weeds in the forest nearby. There's always hardier vegetables available that you can grow anywhere, the question is whether you're actually going to want to eat them. I think ppl are going to have to get creative to deal with the extreme heat and cold. Like this kind of AC
https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2017/09/terra-cotta-air-conditioner/ and use cold resistant seeds.
No. 879848
>>879825It's probably squash borers killing your zucchini. They fucked mine this year too. I fucking hate them.
It's my dream to form an intentional isolationist TEFF community.
No. 879867
>>879848Fuck. As soon as I managed to stop them from molding, they're getting attacked? I think the "muh zuchinnis are so eazy to grow so many production" is a meme.
Don't care enough about trannies to label myself a
terf, but as long as no males are allowed (that includes male kids and animals) then I'm in. I'm ok with no AC or processed food or running water or electricity. Just want to be left the fuck alone.
No. 879897
>>879867>no male animalsYou're so mean
nonny wtf, this why your zuchinnis are rotting. What's the lore though, did you got raped by a dog or smth
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>>879945Literally just said they don't talk about it online. If you're smart you'll figure out how to get in contact. It's mostly older ladies who own these communities, start with that hint.
No. 879964
>>879960>Literally just said they don't talk about it onlineI know, which is why I asked if you would just have to ask the women who are in the ones that
are known online, I just assume that the communities would know each other. Sorry for asking though.
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>container garden in the limited balcony or backyard space you have
>buy seasonal vegetables and fruits and learn how to can, freeze, dry, cure & smoke, pickle, and properly store them in a safe way, nchfp.uga.edu has good resources on this
>dried herbs, homemade jams and relishes make good gifts
>grow or find the flowers you like and press them, then make your own home decor or resin crafts
>keep basic sewing supplies to mend and do small things (for example I bulk bought squeakers and use scrap fabric for diy dog toys that cost less than 8c a toy)
>save vegetable scraps in the freezer for future soups
>save bread ties to tether tomato plants to stakes
>make your own oatmeal layer bars and put jam in the middle of them quaker oats can't beat how good they are plus they freeze decently
>also if you live alone and make cookie dough just make a few and freeze the rest for portion control and so you don't have to adjust the recipe
>when you go in Taco Bell just take 50-60 packets they do not care
>often times the Dollar Tree has better deals on some items (the condensed soups like tomato and chicken are larger and cheaper) but other items are overpriced with smaller portions, be wary of this
No. 880049
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>>880034They mean packets of hot sauce and/or other condiments. I dont know why ypu would do this as taco bell hot sauce is not like amazing, and a good sized bottle of aldibrand franks red hot is literally $0.98. My greatgrandfather was banned from every mcdonalds in his local area for constantly walking out with pockets stuffed full of salt pepper and ketchup packets. So i guess some people have a compulsion to take anything that's free.
No. 880055
>>880049It's disingenuous to compare franks red hot (vinegar crap sauce) to hot sauce packets with actual flavor.
Taco bell sauce retails for 67c and ounce so taking packets makes sense if you like the taste. It's smart
No. 880316
>>880055>taco bell sauce packets have flavorsir, ive tasted rhem, they are literally just franks red hot type sauce plus sugar, red pepper flakes and thickener. To make something yourself, mix franks red hot with a little honey, sugar, bbq sauce or ketchup (or anything sweet, try apricot or pear puree to be special, thats the secret ingredient in mcdonalds sweet & sour sauce. but almost anything sweet will do, grape jelly works fine, even hershey syrup will make an ok if sweet mole).
Mince a couple cloves or more garlic if you like, sautee in a pan with 1 tbsp olive oil, until garlic turns golden brown. If you cant get fresh garlic, use garlic powder, add it to hot cooking-temp oil in a pan and proceed to next step immediately as the powder will brown very fast. Then add red pepper flakes, stir, let cook in the oil 30 sec. Be cautious frying dry seasonings as they burn quickly if not watched. To the pil, carefully add your franks red hot type basic hot sauce (they sell it in big jugs at walmart whoch pour easy vs normal hot sauce bottles as pictured above which you will have to get the dripper off of to pour). You're adding watery liquid to hot oil so you have to pour it in fast with confidence or take the pan off the burner and let cool a little if you dont want to risk getting spattered with hot spicy oils (
valid concern). Then add your sweetener, stir it in, and let the sauce simmer until it thickens a bit and gets tasty. You can add a tbsp of potato/corn starch to thicken it to a fast-food-sauce-like consistency (dissolve the starch first in a couple tbsp of water in a separate bowl, then add to the sauce). Salt to taste. Ta-da, you've made a tasty delicipus sauce. And this is sticking to ingredients you can get at a gas station with the exception of garlic, but garlic powder will do fine. And if you do have any fresh ingrediwnts you can add them, minced herbs, pureed peppers or pepper paste, etc. to make your own special secret tasty sauce.
The consistency/viscosity of fast food sauces is the most unique thing abput them; it's very highly engineered. At mcdonalds, take a nugget, dip it in sweet & sour sauce and hold it upright. The sauce will always run in droplets down the nugget, to about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down the nugget, bit it will almost never drip off the nugget. Taco bell hot sauce is like this as well, its much thicker than normal hot sauce. Franks red hot has basically the viscosity 9f water, while taco bell sauce is almost like pepper jam really. Viscosity affects flavor a lot, and also contributes to the look of the sauce, which is why fastfood sauces and eg general tsos chicken have such a glossy luster. so be sure to simmer ypur sauce down for a while. It will also thicken more as it cools.
No. 880351
>>880288I grow fruit and vegetables for my family to eat and I sell what I don't need. It's not my main source of income so it isn't a big deal I guess. It's more that it's frustrating because I've been working on my vegetable garden for years and this is the first time that I've failed.
>>880294If you want something that's easy to grow try planting things like blackberry and raspberries. They come back every year and don't need at lot of attention. You can freeze what you can't eat and then use frozen berries in cooking over the winter.
>>880325Have you tried growing fresh mint?
No. 880352
>>880326Excuse me? You think taco bell hot sauce is some kond of godly inimitable substance and I'm the one who can't taste? Yeah all of the variations in making your own sauce that i described will turn out tasting pretty different from each other. They will all be hot sauce, and they will all be different from each other, and they will all be tastier than taco bell hot sauce. Yeah you can get it for "free", for the low low price of having to go to taco bell every time you want hot sauce? Wtf? I was explaining how to make ypur own tasty hot sauce at home for very cheap and how to imitate taco bell hot sauce if you should so desire. Are ypu saying you couldnt make a hot sauce from scratch thats way tastier than taco bell packets? I can, so if you cant cook or you're scared of cooking, that one's on you. Are you really arguing with me that you cant make a better hot sauce than taco bell? Thats so deep in peopleofwalmart brain rot i cant even fathom. Or ur just british and your taste cant be helped. This is probably why they started selling bottled taco bell sauce at walmart, so people like ypu would stop stealing it from the restaurants. But evidently it hasnt worked. I suspect tbh that you just like doing it because you like the little bit of shoplifters thrill, but because thats very sad, you justify it by saying its the best sauce. It aint.
The point pf this thread is self sufficiency and making ypur own things, not literal hobo tactics like stealing sauce packets. My greatgrandfather stole sauce packets because he grew up in the depression and was compelled to hoard stuff like that due to trauma.
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It's my dream to build or purchase my own tiny house, put it on a plot of land and have a large garden to live as self sustaining as possible. I'm not anywhere near achieving that dream of course, not sure if it's even possible but I'm learning how to grow vegetables right now. This autumn I want to attempt foraging and preserving foods.
No. 882182
>>881269You described my dream too
nonnie. Though everyone irl I tell about this just laugh and call me dumb for living in a cottagecore fantasy, and not being ambitious. I don't want to be ambitious I just want to be left tf alone.
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I bought a mint plant from the market, help..! Nonnies help a sister out. Do I buy a pot and get the plant out of its display plastic pot? Do I mist or spray it every other day, instead of dumping water into the pot. I want success..it smells so good and I don't want to kill it!
No. 886185
>>886151My mom brought home a mint plant that she got from a friend. I opted to take it out of its nursery pot and put it into a self watering pot (I got mine from Target). The nursery pot we had didn't have drainage holes and it made me worry about potential rotting since mint likes to be kept damp. I just refill its little water reservoir from the bottom every morning (it's a thirsty bitch) and it's been doing okay since being transplanted into a new pot a few weeks ago! I'm also a novice planter so I'm sort of winging it and I'll take it not dying as a good sign.
Also, I'm propagating sweet basil cuttings that I got from my friend's mom and saw that some of them are sprouting roots today! I'm so excited to plant them! I love sweet basil but the markets around me only sell thai basil. I can't wait to make lots of pesto and eat basil with cheese and pasta…!!
No. 887557
Normally I don't have any trouble with mint, but I got some lemonbalm recently which is closely related and it died out of nowhere. It was thriving and then over the course of about two days it turned completely black. I'm devastated.
>>879964I follow a couple of serious separatists on tumblr. Apparently, there's a physical magazine/newsletter you can buy with information. I don't recall the name or where to find it, but tumblr is definitely a good place to look.
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Anons, I have killed the spearmint plant.
No. 889089
>>888678You could get a garden plot/community garden. Just an idea, don't know if that's a thing where you are or if you can financially afford it if it even interests you of course.
Other than that, maybe try to learn how to sew your own clothes? Or learn to forage. Autumn is coming up (at least in this part of the world) so maybe you can forage things like chestnuts in a forest near you. Or like the OP mentions, there's a weed you can make soap from. It's just a little thing but if you can forage that
>>889081What did you do to it?
No. 889096
>>889081>>887557Coincidentally, I am growing both of these this year. They have not done spectacularly. I got 2 spearmint plants out of all the seeds I planted, and have them in 2" well drained containers. They sit on a northfacing porch. The lemon balm did better, also in 2" pots, but all of the plants are still very small.
However, I overplanted a bunch of lemongrass in a shallow deck box in the same place and it is thriving.
So my advice is: this shit is hard sometimes plants just don't give a fuck, move shit around, don't water until the top of the soil is dry then water til it drains out the bottom, and use good soil amen.
No. 889115
Peppermint and lemonbalm (not lemongrass) were among the first things I ever sowed years ago. Literally all I did was chuck the seeds in some universal pottingsoil and planted them in the garden after they sprouted. It still comes back every year (they're winterhardy in my climate) and I quite literally don't do anything for it. It's amazing. Probably among the most foolproof herbs you can try if you're a beginner. Be careful if you put them in the garden though, they can both overtake easily.
>>889081Are you anon who got it from the market? Maybe you just got a bad one that already wasn't in great health.
No. 889216
>>889115>>889089>>889096Yes, I’m the market
nonny!
I naively sprayed a DIY vinegar mixture on the plant… because I saw little spiderwebs at the base of the stems and yellow spots on the leaves..the poor guy shriveled up around an hour later. I plan on buying another plant this week and leave it the fuck alone.
This ordeal made me sad..but I was a dumbass Thank you for the feedback ladies!
No. 889460
Stuff I'm up to
>making my own relish, salsa, and syrups
>drying lavender, lemon balm, oregano, mint, and parsley
>easily grew broccoli very cheaply, just harvested 3 heads today, I recommend it IDK why it intimidated me, same with carrots and onions (the key is loose soil)
>going to try candied lemon balm some hippy blogger mommy compared them to lemonheads and I can't get it out of my head
>tear down some vines and make wreaths for fall, have scrap flowers and fabric already
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This thread is so awesome, you're all so cool. I wish I was friends with all of you.
No. 891324
>>891310The first plants I grew from seed were Ashwagandha, fenugreek, a curry tree, and ginger. They are all pretty potent and were fairly easy to grow from seeds. I have all of the common herbs like mint, basil, thyme, etc. I am growing a lot of flowers that have health benefits like coneflowers, zinnias, chamomile, and dandelions. I recently planted some Bergamot, St. Johns Wort, and Calendulas. There are so many plants to explore and many are very easy to grow at home in small pots! I bought a lot of my seeds from my local garden shop, but Etsy has proven to be very valuable to me in my quest to find rare heirloom seeds
No. 891427
>>891324>Etsy has proven to be very valuable to me in my quest to find rare heirloom seedsCan you recommend any sellers? Hard to trust sellers these days since seeds have become more popular.
And won't your dandelions take over everything??
No. 891429
>>891356Oh wait so you don't preserve it?
>most people seem to see as a trash berry where I'm fromSame in my area, idk why they all want elderberry. More for us hehehe!
No. 891481
>>891427I've had great success with MySeedcellar on etsy. Everything I purchased grew nicely and her products seem genuine. Open Seed Vault was another good brand on Amazon I used when I started out but they recently increased their prices because of the pandemic.
I havent had any problems with my dandelions as I do not have an actual in ground garden, I use exclusively pots. (I live in a desert so it is too dry) I also harvest leaves and stems pretty often.
No. 891642
>>891614Not necessarily, they're optimised for profit first and everything else later. So you might get a bigger size vegetable that tastes like cardboard and is much lower in nutrients + the seeds might be coated with certain chemicals harmful for your health depending on how and where they were harvested. You could also get organic seeds (I live in the EU where that label is not just marketing fluff) from the same variety, so it's not really a guarantee of anything. Some varieties of a vegetable thrive in colder climates, some in warmer. Some are more disease-resistant, some less etc. The flavour, appearance and size will also be different.
Heirlooms are basically rare varieties not profitable enough for mass production for one reason or another (flavour, size, hardiness, suitability to climate in one country vs another, difficulty of procuring the seeds etc).
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Reviving this thread because I love it
No. 997664
>>997649>>997625Cool, I think I'm gonna give it a shot. I don't really wanna order stuff if it's not seeds.
>>997646I really don't want to wash my hair with egg but thanks for the suggestion
No. 997686
>>908026I stand by my taco bell foraging
Another urban homesteading tip, save and plant everything, like for example I got a good deal on a living lettuce bundle and planted it a couple months ago and it gave me tons of lettuce over and over. I have a large pot-garden and I rotate things seasonally, it's funny how I still have stuff out there despite that it already snowed, I have some stuff covered. I also do carrots, potatoes, and radishes, and onions. Onions are great because you can use the tops too
>>997681I agree I just buy onion starts and they grow much better. I just started germinating my own plants instead of buying starts within the last couple years and that's one better to buy. I gotta say those seed greenhouse trays are such a scam, they just molded my seedlings, paper towel germinating then transferring into tiny pots is king
>>997671It works, but you only get like 4 inches of regrowth. Green onions are 50c a bundle so I don't do that crap. But I will save herb stems and bundle them in cheesecloth for bouqet garni soups so I can't talk
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>>998782I don't have experience with this personally but there's loads of books about urban/appartment/balcony (vegetable/herb) gardening. I say do a bit of googling around on above keywords and just pick one that has good reviews. I think starting with a book is good because you'll have all the neccersary knowledge needed to start out in one place without overwhelming yourself (because it's easy to keep clicking when you try to get your knowledge from webpages and youtube videos) Sorry I couldn't be of more help!
No. 1001801
>>1000128 i do, i just moved to a house with a big piece of land but it's going to be decades probably to achieve it. There is so much money that goes into fencing the land against the wildlife, getting rid of plants that are not supposed to be there, equipment and stuff like that and i cant understand how people make it seem so easy. I think all these people are really really rich so they can buy a house and do all the repairs AND landwork. All my money went into the house and it still needs more and more repairs every week something new breaks. It's sad that 10 years ago everything was half the price so i would have everything ready already only if i was born earlier.
Anyway i'm planning to grow some type of asian rose that has big fruits as fencing, since it's thorny animals won't go through hopefully (+ wire fencing around important plants). Then bamboo as a little forest for fun and sprouts for food, chickens, some fruit trees and bushes, beans and one day when i'll have a cellar, because this bloody house is the only one that doesn't have it, i'll grow potatoes and store them there.
For house i wanted a solar panel, but that's coming in decades also.
No. 1015211
>>1001801That's so cool! Are you still working full/parttime? Did you have a lot of experiencing gardening or raising animals before you bought your house?
I want to live off-grid and at least partially self-sustaining in the future as well but I'm thinking about going with a tiny-house instead. The housing prices have literally doubled the last 3-5 years, I refuse to go into triple lifelong debt by time I'm out of education just to have a damn roof above my head.
No. 1015310
>>1000128I do, I want my dream life to look like
>norf england, rural yorkshire, waterfalls and hills or near the coast>living in a big woman only house where everyone has a job>keeping chickens, growing potatoes, leeks raspberries, mushrooms, herbs etc>someone makes pasties and sells them by bicycle or van at nearby events>someone else works at home with computer stuff>some have practical plumbing/carpentry skills>we have a shotgun license as farmers so we can defend ourselves >and there’s a big piano to fill the house with music, and a fireplace to warm up the colder rooms>going for walks/camping or taking trips on a boatYeah I know it’s kind of gay and cringe but I want a life surrounded by women and in nature, I’ve always been happiest in these places. I already helped out on farms growing up and like to grow stuff, and I can ask my uncle to teach me practical stuff on the condition I bring him homemade curry chips lol
I hope if there are other women who feel the same way, we can find each other one day.
No. 1103040
>>1001801idk about the logistics but ive heard small wind turbines can be a lot cheaper than panels
also nonnies i need help my lime tree is looking so so sad, ive fertilized it but havent been watering it much as its been indoors for the winter, it bloomed in december after i cut off a rootstock sucker from being brought inside (it had been in the garage) but it started wilting and dropped all the fruits and some leaves recently. im afraid it might die.. i love my lime tree dearly.
No. 1205491
>>1205486samefag, but
https://theculturetrip.com/europe/united-kingdom/england/articles/12-reasons-hebden-bridge-is-known-as-the-greatest-town-in-europekek at this cute part of the article
> Known as the lesbian capital of the UK, Hebden Bridge is said to have more lesbians per square foot than anywhere else in the country. One of the most inclusive towns in the whole country, this is a welcoming place where people are encouraged to be themselves. No. 1205499
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>>1163332Rotate and fertilize. If you're not getting enough crop for what you're planting it's probably because the soil is lacking. Before you plant anything, dig in manure, bone meal or other fertilizer and it should improve yields.
>>1205491There are some really beautiful places still left in England. I live in the south west of the country and there are so many pristine villages full of old cottages.
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I read in a book about bushcraft with a section about edible wild plants that the root of Solomon's seal (Polygonatum multiflorum) is edible but I can't seem to find this confirmation anyone else on the internet nor does it have an entry in my reliable foraging book. I know everything above ground is toxic fur sure, but does anyone here happen to know about the root? (I'm not gonna risk it at this point but I'm just terrible curious)
No. 1261352
>>1261178Are you German-speaking?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vielbl%C3%BCtige_Wei%C3%9FwurzIt says every part of the plant is
toxic. When you go to the source for this,
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250090370it says it was used for wound healing and to provoke coughing. But doesn't specify which part.
The similar species:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echtes_SalomonssiegelShare the same attributes, in Russia the rhizome was used to provoke puking.
They belong to the Asparagaceae (family level).
You also should know, depending on where the plant is distributed it may be more or less
toxic, for example a fern (I think it was Wurmfarn or Adlerfarn) that is distributed Northern hemispheric, is edible in Japan but
toxic in Germany. Local varieties can always differ in certain aspects.
No. 1272568
>>1261352My German isn't good enough to read that page in detail unfortunately.
>it says it was used for wound healing and to provoke coughing. But doesn't specify which part.yeah I found these vague unspecified statements about it's healing properties/medicinal use as well.
>You also should know, depending on where the plant is distributed it may be more or less toxic, for example a fern (I think it was Wurmfarn or Adlerfarn) that is distributed Northern hemispheric, is edible in Japan but toxic in Germany. Local varieties can always differ in certain aspects.That's a rrrrreally good point, I hadn't known about that before.
Thanks for your thoughtful input anon!
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Any chicken people here? I want chickens really badly but i have to build an enclosure and a house for them. I already heard the chicken coops they sell online (in europe) are really badly made. I need something that lasts 20 years. If you have coops, how do they look like, do you have ani tips about it? and do you have the roof of the run also closed? I'm worried about bird flu and for that i heard is better to have a fenced roof of the whole run. That would be very hard to do here though.
picrel is an gallus varius, exotic chicken that i'll never have but it's beautiful just look
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>>1295022I keep chickens, bantams, ducks, turkeys and geese. I started out with a few chickens and a basic coop that I bought from a farm supplier. I still use the original coop for the bantams and the other poultry now have coops that I've designed and were then made by my husband. He's an engineer so if provide him with a schematic diagram of what I want, he buys the materials and puts it together. When I need to keep the poultry under cover I move their coops into the barn and make sure that they have enough enrichment in their environment to keep them happy.
If you're starting out, have limited space and aren't sure about what you want, I'd recommend getting a few bantams before moving on to bigger poultry.
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I stumbled upon a crapload of flowering hop, are they worth foraging? The flowers/bells I mean. I know they're edible but I can't find much about what to do with them other than making diy beer.
No. 1322490
>>1261178yes it the root is "edible" but it doesn't provide much value as food and isnt eaten very frequently anywhere. The root will not poison you, it is non-
toxic. The berries are the part to avoid. The young furled shoots are also edible, once they mature they become unpleasant in a way that would make you not want to eat them, indicating their newly developed toxicity to even the least-confident beginner.
Both root and shoot are consumed in my country on occasion. I wouldnt suggest eating it, but you wouldnt need to be worried if you are experienced. There does not appear to be much difference in location-based toxicity either, but other anon was right to suggest this just in case.
t. long-term foraging lady
No. 1322498
>>1205473late reply but what preservation methods are available to you? Everything will "freeze" or nearly freeze, if it has some water content. FREEZE EVERYTHING ANON
I have made home-made freezers of all kinds, but you just can't beat a good old industrially-made fridgefreezer.
Things to freeze: highly perishable foods, such as "pheasant berries" or other very soft fruits. Herbs, spices, like pepper seeds for "wild spices", prepare whole meals of wild greens and freeze them, meats, nuts and fats, you can stick most anything in a freezer. Some thing might not work for you but you'll find over time waht does or doesnt.
Alternative method that I use a lot: dig a deep hole, insert well-wrapped food (i put it in a wooden box so that foxes and rabbits wont borrow into it for tasty treats) - you can add ice or snow to this and it will stay frozen into the next season if deep/cold enough
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I know the chance is slim but has anyone succesfully made fermented blackberry leaf tea? From what I understand from reading a bunch of tutorials you pick young blackberry leaves, wash them, bruise them, pack them in a jar and let them sit for 2+ weeks to ferment, dry them out and that's your tea. But I've tried two times now and the contents went bad, it smelled bad and a weird yellow/blackish substance gathered at the bottom of the jar. Any ideas what I could've done wrong?
No. 1720469
>>1720036/g/ accounts for female social conditioning topics, primarily.
/ot/ is just any topic since women are also people with hobbies and interests when they finish putting on their makeup and fashionable clothes.
It's a bit bleak and semantically meaningless that they are divided based on this, but yes it reflects reality.
No. 1728467
>>1719890Smart! Thanks, I'm going to look that up!
>>1719981>>1720995>This board is for feminine health, advice, and beauty oriented topics. Direct everything else to /ot/ or /m/As per the rules page. This thread isn't about any those topics so it should be here in /ot/ indeed.