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No. 130504

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuYx81nzzz4OFQrhbKDzTng

I know she's kind of busted, but I am tired of tumblr lolcow nobodies so lets have Michelle Phan thread.
A popular makeup guru with shit advices, lying about everything when it comes to her background, founded a rip-off make-up brand IQQU that wasn't FDA approved and made people get skin diseases etc etc

Read more about her shit here:
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Michelle_Phan

Anyways, anyone think she is paying that swiss dude to act like her boyfriend? They feel kind of fake.

No. 130516

i don't think she's paying him, that seems pretty far-fetched. and
honestly he isn't really that good looking to me, i think he and phanny are evenly matched

No. 130540

Naw she's not paying him, but there's no way that their relationship is as perfect as she presents it to be. She carefully selects what she wants to put in her videos, like Venus did with her 'relationship' with Manaki, so that all her fans think she's got the perfect life with the perfect relationship

No. 130548

I remember when she first started the YT vids but I wouldn't recognize her now, her face is so full of surgery.

No. 130556

Who buys this shit?

No. 130557

>>130556
The sort of girls whose relationship expectations are based in Disney movies. The sort of girls who sit on tumblr all day whining about how lonely they are, despite not doing anything about it. The sort of girl who expects the most perfect guy to accept her despite her imperfections and having nothing to offer him in return.

No. 130562

>>130557
Exactly, the dumb bitches in the comments are pretty funny.

No. 130564

Countdown until her boyfriend comes out of the closet.

No. 130570

I still say she is his sugar mommy.

No. 130571

>>130570
I think he knew exactly who she was when approached her, he wears makeup. The benefits of having her as a beard are quite good all things considered.

No. 130640

Her chin surgery confuses me. Her face before was very pretty. Also she's not a makeup artist. she's a girl who plays with makeup. Makeup artists are gossmakeup and lisa eldridge, not this bitch.

No. 130775

>>130564
https://youtu.be/I3fkE1VTYjU?t=4m11s
"Nope, he's a fag. Never mind"

No. 130883

>>130504
It's a shame what she did to her face, she looks like an alien and her eyes ended up really weird (I'm not sure how to describe it but she has way too many folds). She was cute before too, she had no reason to do what she did.

What's worse is that she tries to use this high pitched fake voice now that sounds awful, I can't watch her videos. In her old ones her voice was pleasant.

All she does is boring lifestyle shit now, I wish she'd go back to doing her shitty makeup tutorials, at least those were entertaining.

No. 131302

>>130775
>what kind of SVU

Amazing, and William speaks the truth. The way the dude dresses and primps himself up = gay and not even hiding it.

So what's the story, did he use her for a green card?

No. 131309

>>130775
i love william. fucking sucks his original show got canned since people baw'd about it.

No. 131330

This make me cringe so hard

No. 131340

>>131330
OCD is a fucking mental illness. what the hell?

No. 131341

>>131340
Made me so uncomfortable

No. 131342

>>131330
damn he's hot. however it just seems fake to be honest.

No. 131343

>>131341
it's like people who say they have depression only because they're sad. it pisses me off. sorry for being OT

No. 131347

>>131330
Who can watch this bullcrap for 20 minutes??

No. 131348

Dom acts like a beta faggot.
He fucking spergs out on twitter/facebook on her status' if anyone disagrees with her.

No. 131349

>>131330
this is just so fake and scripted, its embarrassing that people fall for this shit

No. 131350

>>131349
THIS

And oh my god her laugh is so fake, the faces she make are so unnaturals, I can't buy this shit.

No. 131351

>>131348
def getting paid to do that shit

No. 131353

Checking her boyfriend's instagram….turns out he is a weeb.

https://instagram.com/dominiquecapraro/

No. 131358

>>131353
he looks like a swagfag what the fuck
what's up with all the boyfriends of lolcows here are all fucking beta? holy shit.
arin is beta. ross is beta. now michelle's bf?

No. 131359

>>131353
Sorry Michelle for your eventual breakup, your dude is gay.

No. 131360

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leeeeel

No. 131537

>>131347
Masochists

No. 131571

>>131302
>>131309
It's Willam guys, no extra I. Oh and his show is still going on I think, it's on his channel if you're still interested.
Last time i was following her drama, she was bragging about some honorary award she got from a college?

No. 131605

Her boyfriend is hot.

No. 131650

What video is op's pic from?

No. 131653

>>131650
I don't feel like looking at her videos but I keep seeing it's her no mirror make up challenge and it looks like it matches up

Man, I used to really like her a few years ago crazy to see how much different she looks

No. 131667

>>131571
his show isn't as funny anymore since he needs to get permission from people to use their videos. so the show only ends up being stupid ass nobodies

No. 131720

>>131653
Yeah when I first discovered her it was when I was kind of getting back into make up and she was doing sort of cosplay related tutorials. But when I watched a handful of her videos at once I very quickly realized that she has one look and she just palette swaps them. I think she's been deviating from it (probably from enough commenters noticing the same) But it's too late. I work at a make up store now, and I try so hard not to cringe whenever a 12 year old walks in mentioning her.

Also is the cosmetic line mentioned in OP Em cosmetics? Because that shit was in conjunction with L'oreal. And it is shit, despite what a lot of 'reviews' claim.

No. 131848

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No. 131858

>>131848
cant tell if shes trying to be sexy or hungry and trying to eat her thumb

No. 131862

>>131858
i think she's doing the trick where you stick your thumb in your mouth and pull it out and it removes excess lipstick. something like that

No. 131947

She said it's for checking if there any lipsticks in her teeth, you can see her thumbs rubbing it ewww

No. 131958

>>131848
the way her lips like… envelope her thumb is really off-putting.

No. 131987

>>130556
the art is so terrible what the fuck.
this sounds like some bad shoujo manga plot.

No. 131993

>>131848

ew that is nasty

it was supposed to stick your thumb and press your lips a bit
not noming your lips and trying to act like sexy

No. 132351

>>131571
It ended. I miss it.
Besides, anyone remember her shitty skincare brand? lmao

No. 132368

>>132351
iqqu more like ick ew

No. 157238

You'd try to look like a different person too if your brothers wife looked just like you

No. 157267

>>131848
She looks like a literal $2 crack ho. What the hell is going on with all that eyeshadow and blush? If you're going for a bold lip, you shouldn't go overboard with everything else on your face. holyfuck

No. 157268

>>157238
Wait, really?

No. 157269

>>157267
I don't mean to whiteknight someone I despise, but I believe that's from the No Mirror Challenge. She literally couldn't see what she was doing.

No. 157270

>>131848
>blush is contour now

No. 157275

>>131862
I tried this and all that ended up happening was I got a red ring on my thumb that wouldn't come off.

No. 157276

>>157270
Is this an older video? because this is the shit 15 year olds do when they first try makeup.

No. 157277

>>157269
That is….still not an excuse.

No. 157280

Y'all should look up Promise Phan on YT. Watch her and michelles early videos and they look grossly similar. Promise is Michelles brothers wife

No. 157286

>>157280
>Someone named their kid Promise

Wow. And who goes out with someone who looks like their sibling? That's so disturbing.

No. 157297

>>157277

It really is though.

No. 157313

>>157276
nah.
She ALWAYS puts blush there.
Even with a mirror.

No. 157375

>>157280
Promise is still a million times prettier. Michelle has looked like a vaguely downsy Asian since she fucked with her eyelids.

No. 157388

all I really know about Phan is that one time she put out a disney makeup tutorial straight after kandee Johnson and my younger self felt like accusing her of copying. She was so fucking mad. Beautiful.

No. 157718

>>157297
It's not. She was obviously putting on a stupid amount of badly done makeup to try to be funny.

Also the "Promise and Michelle Phan look identical!" thing is a troll, probably that "all Asians look alike" racist bit. They don't look alike at all. And Promise is way more talented.

No. 157725

>>157718
I don't know why you'd fault someone for trying to be entertaining on their own youtube channel. I don't like her either, but this is getting into nitpick territory

Also I just realised what's so weird about her face - it's the shape. Not quite heart shaped, but more like an upside down egg.

No. 157733

>>157388
isn't kandee Johnson a scammer too?

No. 157802

I do believe I said that they USED to look really similar, not the same. And it doesn't make much sense for an asian to say that all asians look the same does it? Nope didn't think so

No. 157817

>>157280
…….wait, isn't Promise Michelle's sister?

No. 157824

>>157817
Nope, they're related by marriage, not blood.

No. 157866

>>157725
Because you can be entertaining without being an annoying try hard the way Phan is.

No. 157908

>>157866
no mirror challenge is about how well you can manage

a lot of girls apply make up this way even with a mirror, so I say she did a decent job

does she look stupid? yeah, but she still applied it on the right places

No. 158023

>>157908
that blush placement disagrees with you.

No. 158037

>>158023
where do you put it on, your feet?

No. 158042

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>>158037
Anon, do you wear makeup? You wear it on your cheeks. Sometimes girls wear it higher up, under their eyes/on top of their cheekbones. She's wearing it in a very strange, outdated way. It looks very 80's.

Now, if someone wants to play around with their makeup and try new things, I'm all for it! But if she's trying to be a "makeup guru" or whatever, I don't understand why she'd do her makeup like that. Almost every beauty blogger I follow uses bronzer there, not blush.
(Then again I HATE her eyelashes, why the fuck is she wearing dollar store Halloween lashes?? I can't accept that.)

No. 158081

>>131848
Funnier each time you watch it.

No. 158090

>>158037
maybe you do.
It would explain why you love michelle so much.

No. 158135

What kind of a fucking "Make up artist" can't put on lipstick well without a mirror?

No. 158403

>>157908
Fuck off Michelle, nobody cares. Learn to put on blush.

No. 158420

>>157269
shecant see what shes doing but she can pick which products. honestly if i knew i wasnt going to have a mirror i would do simple natural makeup

No. 158804

>>157824
They look alike in a really creepy way… dayum

No. 159011

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>>158804
Well people with the last name can share distant genetics. But I don't think they look that much alike. That's like saying all people who are white look alike or something

No. 159054

>>159011
But they didn't share the same last name?

No. 159331

>>159011
Yeah, they really don't look anything alike, I think the anon saying they are is just trolling in a retarded way because all Asians look alike amirite?

And they share a name because Promise married Michelle's brother, obviously.

No. 159399

>>159011
didn't she marry Michelle's brother though? i know they ain't blood related. They are just both asian

No. 159910

>>157280
>>157286
>>157375
>>157718
>>157817
>>159331
Promise is Michelle's sister-in-law. Last I heard, Promise has personal beef with Michelle after she became a lolcow and doesn't want anyone associating her with that cow at all

No. 159913

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>>157280
I just watched the video of Promise Phan doing a make-up tutorial on how to look like Beyoncé and holy shit
>ends up watching the rest of her vids
>damn dis gurl can transform into anyone

No. 159965

>>159910
Anyone got deets?

No. 159969

>>159913
Anastasiya Shpagina is much better to be honest

No. 159975

>>159969
I don't like her Anastasiya wears those circle lenses in a lot of her videos. It makes her look unnecessarily creepy.
>idk anon I just like how Promise's transformation are slightly more realistic

No. 159976

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>>159965
It was on the MishBunny tumblr

No. 159978

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>>159965
Promise also posted this on her facebook

No. 159979

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>>159913
Her Kardashian transformations

No. 159980

>>159978
She's great in her own right and shouldn't need to change her name or identity because of Michelle IMO.

No. 159982

>>159975
I don't think Promise sucks by any means I just Anastasiya's transformations are more accurate

Like Promise's look as Khloe here >>159979 looks more like Chrissy Teagan tome

No. 160002

So Promise was like, Michelle's sister-in-law?

No. 160585

>>159979
Damn, that's incredible.

No. 160597

>>159976
>>159978
I'm glad that people were wrong about her being spineless. I'm glad she has stood up for herself. I actually like Promise's work.

No. 160608

>>160002
I thought they still are; she just doesn't wanna be associated with her. Must be some bad family blood between them kek

No. 160637

>>159979
whoa she looks like 3 totally different people. her khloe isn't accurate like >>159982 said but the overall transformation is pretty amazing.

No. 170961

>>130504
Where can I find information about iqqu causing skin diseases. I had a friend 5 years ago who bought this stuff.

No. 170966

Does anyone have the before and after pics of what happened to Michelle's skin when she was using the iqqu acne serum?

No. 173704

>>170961
Theres no time for logic on lolcow. The thing with IQQU was about it being a shitty endorsed product from Asia. Michelle dropped it like a bad habit when she realized she could make more jew money on youtube.

No. 173753

How the fuck is this channel still going? The makeup skills are as awful as they were years ago. She has had so much surgery that she can't talk about being natural and inner beauty or anything.

No. 174297

Her instagram is now full of earthy new age moonchild garbage

No. 174306

>>174297

Isn't kaka doing the same shit too? All "I leik galaxies, sailor muuun, quartz, shiny leggings and vegan herbal food <3333"

ugh fuck off wiv it

No. 174396

>>174297
I'll take a thousand of those posts over her Christian angel bullshit any day.

No. 185663

Does anyone else think Bubzbeauty's makeup is complete shit? I can't put my finger on why, but it always looks bad.

No. 185667

>>174306
To be fair, Phan has been doing that for way, way, way longer. Like back in 2009 she had a Sailor Moon makeup tutorial.

No. 185669

>>185663
Because she has absolutely shit technique. She sucks as blending, and her eyeliner is always sloppy. Not to mention her tutorials all look the same.

No. 185675

>>185663
Her makeup technique is honestly just as awful as her mothering skills.

No. 185679

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No. 185686

>>185675
I feel so sorry for Isaac. Growing up with such a self absorbed mother is gonna be so tough on the kid. She can't even mention her son without throwing in about how much she 'struggles' and 'sacrifices' for him. You can tell she totally regrets having him.

No. 186178

>>185669
>Not to mention her tutorials all look the same.
Yeah this. I think her foundation is always the wrong shade or something. or she doesn't contour/needs to contour more. Probably needs more eyeshadow too, cause her eyeliners so harsh.

No. 186210

>>185686

Shit, I must be way behind on the Phan drama. When the hell did she have a kid?

No. 186213

>>186210
They're talking about someone else. If Michelle had a kid we'd never hear the goddamn end of it.

No. 186221

>>186213
Not that anon but lol it sounded like she had a baby. I was surprised bc the husband looked like a gay golddigger.

No. 197659

oh my god @ OP's gif. What the actual fuck.

No. 197664

>>197659
I see now that it was a no mirror challenge thank god.

No. 198907

>>160608
If there's so much animosity between them, how come Promise uses basically all Ipsy products in her tutorials? Her product list in the item description literally says "Ipsy Products Used" in her latest tutorial on her dope2111 channel, and she's consistently used Ipsy products in past tutorials too

No. 198919

I still think Michelle is paying that Dominique guy to pretend he is her boyfriend. Dude can't be not gay.

No. 198921

BTW Michelle is making comics now

heliosfemina.com

No. 200988

She seriously doesn't know what netflix and chill actually entails? This is so cringey.

No. 201094

>>185686
give me deedz on the bubzbeauty drama pls
i thought she was humble and sweet?

No. 201102

>>201094
I stopped following her around the time she got pregnant because her main channel managed to get even more boring (because she had one look and that was Korean Makeup; is she even worth it for hair tutorials anymore? those were always the better videos) and her vlog channel bothered me because she admitted that she and her husband needed to do things to get ready for baby and then vlogged about arguing about a picture of some KPop star she had in their spare room instead actually cleaning it to turn into a guest/baby room.

Having the baby aged her horribly as well. I do remember in one video she talked about the preggo hormones clearing up her skin, but her under eye bags got bad and she stopped looking like a 20-something as soon as she was well into her first trimester. She lost a lot of the plumpness in her face that's associated with looking youthful.

She's likely a very nice person IRL but she comes off as very try hard, and she likes to wave around christian values like they mean something. She tried creating a tag video about… something. it was bad. Esp since it clearly never caught on like so many other tag videos.

>>198921
OMG. This looks so bad. With the amount of money she has she could have hired an artist who would've worked for pennies because of the legit exposure.

No. 201103

>>200988
Damn she looks like Wylona in the first scene

No. 201107

>>200988

Oh my godddddd why does she care. Bitch just call it a netflix party, or a party, or "hanging out with my friends".

No. 201114

>>200988
I love how they're all on their phones in half of the shots. That looks like the worst party.

No. 201118

>>201107 here

Sorry, I jumped the gun. That was kinda tard. I didn't know that she posted the video originally without the explanation. I thought it was like her mission with this video to redefine "netflix and chill". In reality that was just her being hyper defensive of how she used the phrase, after many people made fun of her for it.

If calling her party a netflix and chill party was supposed to be funny, she certainly did a shitty job at communicating that. Sounded like she literally had no idea what it meant.

No. 201128

>>201118
She likely saw the term being used a lot on social media and never bothered to look up what it meant.

No. 201138

>>201128
Yes. The way she defended everything in the video was so stupid too. She wanted to make a "cleaner family-friendly version"? Being on the phone in every shot reflects a "moral undertone"? Come on, at least come up with a believable excuse!

No. 235461

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BBN_1rlEmLh/

Someone said her chin looked photoshopped, so she replied in the comments:

>>Accusing other women of plastic surgery because they're not posting much on social media? I have a life offline, a very productive one where I'm running businesses and mentoring other creators. Smh… I'm almost 30. Faces change when you age. Reading gossip sites won't elevate your life, but go ahead and accuse away while I go do more productive things. ?


>>Faces change when you age.


>>Faces change when you age.


Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Okay. I can't wait until I'm 30 so my chin becomes all alien!

Now let's compare the image in the link, and this one. kek "no surgery"
(I know we all know she had surgery, I just forgot she existed until I saw this comment today.)

No. 235462

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>>235461
Photo in the link

No. 235473

>>235462
I mean yeah faces change when you get older. I can't wait to hit my mid 20's so I can sprout an extra half inch on my chin.

No. 235491

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>>235462
this smudge lmao

such amazing makeup skills
queen of YouTube beauty gurus!!!11

No. 235495

>>235462
farmers, stay away from Mish's chin, she could stab you util death

No. 235502

Another Dakota Rose thread ugh

No. 235538

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No. 235554

>>235473
Maybe she became one of the Evil Dead? Got a nice witchy-poo chin and weird eyes like Ash after lying face down in a puddle for a while.

No. 235587

Last time I checked up on her, she was trying to be a pale V-line Korean. I feel like Michelle always (poorly) attempts to hide the fact that she's a brown moonfaced Vietnamese.

Also, her whole family as far as I can tell has fug genes.

No. 235647

>>130504
holy shit her instagram is FULL of horseshit quotes and stuff. Ive always felt like she has no contact with reality

No. 235649

>>235647
Pretty sure it's a known fact by now that Michelle is pretty delusional

No. 235652

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>>235461
Baby, come on.
Aging?

No. 235654

Why is this thread made?! SHE ISNT RELEVANT

No. 235655

Admin-sama put this in /snow/

No. 235657

>>235655
IDK, to me she's on par with Doe Deere being that she's a fellow scammer.
Unless the Doe thread isn't in /pt/ anymore.

No. 235684

>>235652
Aging totally shaves your jaw and grows a chin. It's stupid that she still continues to deny it when all you have to do is watch an old video and her face shape is completely different. She'd have more luck saying she lost weight and excess fat on her face went away, but then she's never been a fattie.

No. 235735

>>235684

she's another basic asian bitch obsessed with plastic surgery and it's as easy as looking at her old videos. next.

No. 235809

>>235657
What kind of scamming has Michelle Phan done?

No. 235831

>>235809
http://mishbunny.tumblr.com/
>EManipulations & Lies
>Questioning EM's Ethics
Lying about her product being vegan and FDA approved and also lying about her product period. In videos where she demonstrated her product she was using other brand products. Sometimes couldn't even deliver said overpriced dollar store tier products. Had her gal pals leave fake/biased reviews, and one of her 'team members' didn't hire a girl because she was too fat and not pretty enough.

TL;DR Doe Deere except never 'successful' enough to get alt fashion girls sucking her teats.

No. 235895

>>235831
It should be noted that EM was made inconjunction with L'Oréal so why it was so fucking horrible is a bit of a mystery. The prices were up there with lancome but the quality was below actual L'Oréal products. There was also sales all the damn time for them even though they were being marketed otherwise as a luxury brand, and got called out on it.

If you find reviews that aren't biased and even from Phan fans, they are really disappointed with the tacky palette she had put out.

Ipsy is doing well enough and I'm actually subscribed to it but it's nothing really special. I need to cancel it actually… I've gotten some decent stuff but it's not worth it imo.

No. 237052

>>235462
HOLY SHIT

You could cut diamonds with that chin

No. 237081

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lol that palette looks like dollar store shit

Remember her skin care line? The one that made everyone break out. It wasn't FDA approved either.

No. 237082

>>130504
The author of that tumblog is probably a massive cow herself. She is complaining about michelle's "cultural appropiation" like a true SJW.

No. 237084

>>237082
Yeah I don't give a shit about that stuff, honestly. Doesn't make the other information on the website any less credible.

No. 237085

>>237081
Looks like the toy makeup I had as a seven year old…

>>237082
I feel so weird reading that site because I find myself mentally defending Michelle whenever "cultural appropriation" comes up.

No. 237118

>>237081
I know zero people who could pull off any of the suggested makeup looks. It's like she didn't stop to think about what most people look good in/want to wear.

No. 237126

>>237118
Michelle Phan is notorious for creating looks that only suit her and no one else.

No. 237141

>>237126
They don't even suit her…

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>>237141
agreed

No. 237149

>>237143
she is unfortunate looking to start with

No. 237153

I was just browsing her earliest videos

lol

No. 237175

>>235462
ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

No. 237217

>>237153
I actually think she used to be really attractive. I don't understand why she'd basically deform herself.

No. 237218

>>237217
this, she looks like a botched korean

No. 237243

>>130504
It's been a long time since I've seen anything M.P.
Her face looks completely different from what I remember.
The only thing I heard about her is that she tends to lie a lot and is very fake.

No. 237247

>>157280
This one?
I don't watch her videos, so I'm not sure how/if she changed, but this was a cute old video.

No. 237267

>>237247
Promise is decent looking, but gawd Michelle's brother is fug. They look like each other too.

No. 237323

>>235462
I'm trying to understand what she's going for with such a pointy chin. Was it the korean v line?

No. 237328

>>237323
she got it done before Korean beauty standards became as popular as they are now, so probably not on purpose. She just has a complex about her chin.

No. 237335

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>>237328
I'm not sure, iirc it started around the same time it was starting to becoming trendy to have a v chin, and it's only grown longer and longer since.
It's a shame too because when she first started she looked like Jessica Alba and now coupled with the eyelid fat removal and 4(?) nose jobs she looks a poorly aged Latina.

No. 237374

>>237081
Not going to lie, that palette would be awesome for like, watercolours or plates for mixing inks or acrylics.

For makeup? Not so much.

No. 237398

>>237328
as if she didn't.
Michelle's entire personality and being is based on trends.

No. 237617

>>237081
>lipgloss sandwiched between shittons of eyeshadow with heavy fallout

Yeah, it was a recipe for disaster.

No. 238212

>>130556
>mfw she graduated from Ringling and shits out this years later

No. 238215

>>238212
She dropped out. She only got some "honorary doctorate" for some random ass "discipline" from Ringling…

No. 238219

>>238215
Even worse, she dropped out after one semester. All she can draw is same-face animoo shit.

No. 238227

>>237247
I actually think her brother's pretty cute and him & Promise make a nice couple.

No. 238228

>>237335
did she draw on bangs…

No. 238229

>>237081
That's a weird ass palette coming from a supposed beauty guru. I hate the design, I think it would get messy far too easily. I can't comment on the quality of the product since I have tried it, but it's not something that screams BUY to me by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't follow her enough to know she even released a skin care line - is there any posts ( caps ) about people saying it broke them out and stuff?

No. 238230

>>238228
Yes, yes she did

>>238229
Yeah, I don't know what the whole idea behind that layout was.

No. 238234

>>238230
Maybe it was the "I have no idea what I'm doing." I have no other rational explanation for why you'd make that.
Someone mentioned those $ 'child' make up pallets and even those are usually better and more practically shaped, tbh.

No. 238238

>>238234
Well I know there was the whole 'take the makeup out of this big palette and put it in the smaller palette for something easier to travel with' idea. It just would have worked so much better if she'd made several smaller palettes (perhaps with a plastic cover for the lip colours), each of those quadrants is plenty of selection on their own and I can see the whole thing overwhelming people who are new to makeup. I think there were three or four different ones of the big palettes though, so I feel like she just decided to make any and every colour of makeup she could think of.

No. 238241

>>238238
>It just would have worked so much better if she'd made several smaller palettes
I agree, that would have worked much better. The plastic covers would have been a brilliant idea. Like I said, the way it is, it just screams messy to me.
I for one don't own any of the multi-colour/bigger pallets simply because they often contain half of the shades I would never use ( on their own or to blend ), so if you're only doing make up on yourself it's pretty wasteful.

I do wonder if anyone here bought it, though, to report on the quality of the product itself?

No. 238243

>>235462
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because she looks so much better here.

>>235461
Here she looks like a mail order bride and a lower end one at that.

No. 238249

>>238241
Yeah, I'm moderately experienced with makeup, and I still wouldn't know where to start with it

As for the quality, I've seen some people on YouTube say it's good, but I haven't seen people raving about it like you get with the MUFE shadows, for example, nor have I seen it trending or get a cult following like some other smaller brands' palettes, like the Morphe ones for example. To me, it just seems like Em Cosmetics/Michelle sent people the palettes, these people did reviews on them, and then just added them to their already large makeup collections to be looked over in favour of better products.

(disclaimer: I just randomly picked products I've heard people talk about a lot for those examples, I have no idea how good they are myself)

No. 238252

>>238215
and actually tried to tell everyone she's a doctor now.

No. 238260

>>238249
In my opinion MUFE shadows are very over-priced. The shades are beautiful, the pigmentation is OK, but realistically you can get similar shades with similar quality for half the price from some of the other brands. I'm not a fan of their concealers either. However to each their own, of course. Morphe I haven't tried, but I did hear it's much more affordable and of decent quality, depending on the product.

I'm going to watch some of these Em reviews ( the first video I opened already started with "this got sent to me", haha ).

No. 238274

Design mystery solved. It was……a dream! Yikes.
Seeing all of these is really sparking my inner trypophobia.

No. 238279

>>238230
>>238274

She didn't even come up with the layout herself. She had Ringling students work on it as a contest, then she picked a winning design. That's why she got her honorary "doctorate." L'Oreal paid for it for her. Then she made this dream claim about what it would look like, which makes no sense. Why would you need students to make it for you if you dreamt what it would look like? Basically she stole some hard work from students to pass off as her own.

http://mishbunny.tumblr.com/post/88174134193/the-em-ringling-conflict

No. 238282

>>238279
Oh jeez, this is eye rolling. When watching >>238274 you can tell she's being so over the top fake, but to flat out lie about someone else's work in such manner is kind of disgusting.

No. 238594

>>238274
She looks like a realistic animation in the last bit of this. That's not a good thing kek. Her eyes have no emotion

No. 238610

>>237247
even promise's little sister is better than makeup than mish. it just goes to tell you that mish is really shitty at makeup.

No. 238616

I stopped watching her after I hit highschool to be honest, before I unsubscribe from her I remember she was being sued for using other artist music without permission.

Why honestly all she had to do was email them saying if she could used it in her vids. They would of most likely said yes as long as she credited them.

No. 238624

>>157280
Michelle and Promise don't look anything alike.

No. 238625

>>238624
Racist lolcow posters think all Asians look the same lulul

No. 238627

>>238610
Haha wow. That little girl rocks it. Michelle is so terrible. With the amount of money she has, you'd think she'd at least take some professional makeup classes but nope, she thinks she's perfect. Except in the cases of those hideous plastic surgeries she's gotten over the years. She looked way better before she got that ugly gross pointy chin.

No. 238630

>>238624
They probably meant the videos are similar, not the girls.

No. 238631

>>238616
It's actually a little more complicated than that, because at one point I thought the same thing you did.
In a lot of her try-hard 2 b kewl videos, she used this one artists music, and did email him for permission. He said yes, she used it, but she got sued by the music producer anyways because he didn't have the rights to say that it could be used and distributed.

Then it still went to court, but I don't know what happened, if she won or not.
Hoping she didn't win and owes a lot of money to them, hate michelle the scammer.

No. 238632

>>238631
I remember it being a big deal, because she was the first major YT-er to be taken to court over copyright which is a horrible system on the site either way.

Since nothing has really been said it was likely settled out of court with her paying a shit ton of money.

No. 238636

>>238632
Yeah.
Honestly there's other youtubers out there, to name one Pewdiepie, who use music in their videos and he hasn't gotten sued. I wonder what makes his usage of music, different from hers?
I know you'll get content-id' if you play a song for more than 10 seconds, he does it and multiple times throughout a video.

I get that michelle phan would do it during the duration of a whole video, instead of in pieces spread out through it. but idk

No. 238640

>>238636
It also has to do with whether or not a claim is put through and if you fight it back. Right now it's a hot topic on YT (I haven't watched Nostalgia Critic's video on Fair Use yet) mostly because of the Fine Bros shitfest that's been happening.

From what I can tell is that without permission using small clips are less likely to get you attacked since a lot of yt-ers do that. Given Michelle did a "Netflix and Chill" video without knowing what that actually meant as it traveled through social media, she def wouldn't know how copyright worked.

No. 238680

>>238632
Michelle Phan's case is a great example why anyone that monetizes their YouTube videos should use royalty free music. The only problem is that a lot of royalty free music sucks ass though.

No. 238705

>>238636
Doesnt he actually pay for his music? It is not that expensive for someome who makes 6 millions a year.

No. 238711

Alright, so after watching some of the Em review videos I do have to say all of her products are hilariously over priced. I liked some of the purple shade variations, but you can buy similar if not exactly the same colours for $5 and the quality's not trash either. The applicators that come with the product are useless.
The design is tacky.
Buy these if you have extra money to throw away, otherwise don't bother.

No. 238712

>>238711
I think the only single thing Em had going for it was the calligraphy liquid liner that eventually got duplicated by another company. Everything else has been pretty much crap.

No. 238713

>>238712
Do you happen to know what other company?

No. 238714

>>238712
I love this review. The only thing that was off was when she said $50 instead of $75. No, no. This should be sold for max $20. I can't believe she would charge this for $75.
I'm going to stop ranting, but it pisses me off when you over price your product so much and it's something that is quality-wise and visually similar to products that can be bought for a much lower price from non bigger name brands.

No. 238716

>>238713
I can't remember the original but it was back when it was still new. Now every brand has a calligraphy liquid liner pen just about. What's funnier is that Lancome who Michelle previously did business with had an artliner that she featured in videos in the past. The calligraphy liner wasn't even her own idea.

No. 238723

>>238714
Man, even Covergirl looks better than this and that's the shittiest drug store brand there is. Fuck, elf is better than this shit and it's only a dollar. From the look of other YouTube videos, that lady seems to be the only honest one.

No. 238725

>>238714
>>238714
oooh yeah, her review are spot on. This youtuber review's too in my opinion, although I'm not sure why she got so many dislikes because of 'rude words'.

Every em reviews have noted the chunky-ish quality when they scoop it out with their finger, so yeah, I think it is overpriced.

No. 238734

>>238723
I blame America's next top model for making Covergirl more popular than it should be. Because they were partners, the name was dropped many times in each episode and since the show used to be so popular of course many fans wanted to try it, especially if they weren't already familiar with the brand. Even if it sucked it was still…Easy, breezy, beautiful Covergirl!
I think some Elf products are awesome and very affordable.
It's sad to see most of these reviews are so dishonest. It may have something to do with the fact that a lot of them start with "so I was sent these from the Em PR team…". At least the comments are mostly honest.

>>238725

Thanks, anon, I liked the video! I don't understand the dislikes either. There's a comment saying how it's not over priced because you get 30+ shades for $75 and I don't think they really get it.
For me something that costs $2 is over priced if it's complete shit. So this Em palete could have 50 shades and I'd still think it's very over priced for what it offers ( which seems to be crap ).

No. 238801

>>238734
ELF's eye primer is amaaaaazing.

No. 239789

This might sound picky but does anyone know how her eyelids are so wrinkled? hers are reeally fucking bad i have the same problem with mine since i have seasonal hayfever which irritates my eyes. I started watching her because of this reason actually.

It's really noticeable in >>235652

No. 239797

cringe

No. 239815

>>239797
I'm sorry, but you shouldn't own a car if you don't know how to change a flat tire. That's one of the basics every driver should know because emergencies do happen.

And if these two are in love then I'm the queen of the moon. He's got to be a paid actor. Or a sugar baby.

No. 239883

>>239789
Cause she got eyelid surgery and brow fat removed, don't let her fool you.
Although if your multi-crease bothers you, lid tape or glue works well. I have 2 in one eye and an extra half crease in the other. It isn't only for Asian girls.

No. 239897

>>235895
Shit son, I didn't know she ran ipsy!I was thinking of subscribing, since it's $10/month and one of the few boxes I can afford.


Slightly OT, but does anyone know of other cheap makeup sample boxes? I'm already in on Birchbox.

No. 240896

>>239789
mine are like that, i have 3+ folds. i thought it was a viet thing but >>239883 said she got ps so idk

No. 240906

>>239797

Everything is so obviously scripted, along with their whole "relationship"

No. 240909

>>239797
My gaydar is going through the roof whenever that guy is on the screen.

No. 240918

>>240909
I smell bottom

No. 240920

>>239797
There are non-sarcastic comments that she passed that challenge like a pro, when I agree it's vomit inducing scripted.
Are the majority of her fans mentally deficient?

No. 240954

>>240909
He is her gay best friend who poses as her boyfriend because her audience wants to believe Disney romances can be real life.

Look, she took him to the beauty salon for some fancy mani

No. 241007

>>240954
Yeah. Trisha Paytas is doing the same thing.

No. 241028

>>241007
i found Trisha's sliiightly believable, but Michelle's like full bullshit all over. idk, maybe just me.

No. 241078

>>240954
Are they still together?

No. 241086

>>240954
Is there any actual evidence that he isn't really her boyfriend?
I've always thought the "chemistry" in their couple videos was fake and unconvincing.

No. 241130

>>241086
I'm just waiting until he impregnates her so that he's set for life and never has to work again.

No. 241187

>>240954
I hope "try me" samples work differently in Korea, cuz she just picked up a trial eyeliner in the store and rubbed it all over her eye.

Grody to the max, man.

No. 241259

>>131848
L8 but story behind this gif lmfao?

No. 241260

>>241259
I think she was getting lipstick off the inside of her mouth or something

No. 241265

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>>241078
Found this on one of her other videos.

No. 241293

>>241028
But Trish never said she was dating Sean. Not seriously anyway. She jokes about it because her little girl fans do that creepy real life people shipping thing. They fuck and go on dates that's it. She never names current boyfriends.

Lil' Mish on the other hand has a sugar baby that she parades around because she needs people to know how in love with her he is.

No. 241309

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>>241307
sorry lmao i forgot that mish and dom were total lovebirds

No. 241313

He looks like Michael Carbonaro, but a gay version.

No. 241316

>>241265
it seems like the sugar baby contract has expired :^)

No. 241317

>>241309
Their eyes look dead.

No. 241321

>>241309
I remember on some forum (dont remember) there was speculation that Michelle pays him to be her boyfriend

No. 241338

>>241321
Probably Guru Gosspier.

No. 241343

>>241321
I wish she laid out more obvious hints that he's a sugar baby. Even SecretLifeOfABioNerd was careless enough to tell everyone her husband threw money at her.

No. 241346

>>240954
>Gaycation

No. 241856

>>239883
brow fat removed dear god that sounds fucking Frankenstein esque
I'm not asian at all actually i'm a Caucasian Maori and i absolutely hate them.

No. 242091

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>>241856
It's actually pretty grotesque and doesn't look good on anyone period. Lid lifts have better results, but Michelle hates herself.

No. 242104

This should be in /snow/ not /pt/. I'm suprised why this thread survived for so long?

No. 243057

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Watching an old video where she puts a gluestick on her eyebrows, kek

No. 243063

>>243057
Isn't that just to cover them so you can put concealer and foundation on it? I know other makeup artists that use it for that. Then they redraw eyebrows over it.

No. 243064

>>243063
It's a Drag trick - normal people really have no need for this.

No. 243083

>>243064
If you cosplay and need to change your brow color to something more animu, and you have dark brows, this would be useful. Otherwise no.

No. 243127

>>130556
Ughhh, I couldn't make it past one minute of this video. Just what the heck is this shit with the grade-school anime art with disney-like story-telling. I cringed so much and I'm really starting to hate the quote "relationship goals".

Feels like she's rubbing it in all of our faces, showing off her supposed romantic meeting. Maybe this is another way to tell other girls to back off her man too, with all this "see just how ROMANTIC we are, you'd be like the ugly evil witch to try to break us up"

No. 243132

>>131848
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing this is a lipstick trick to suck your thumb and pop it out to take off excess lipstick to prevent it rubbing on your teeth?

No. 243162

>>242091
That she does. I remember reading somewhere she said that she hates being Asian and wants to be white. She needs to love herself, but she's too far gone for that now. She ruined her face.

No. 243167

>>240954
Fake as fuck.

No. 243176

>>243127
> Maybe this is another way to tell other girls to back off her man too, with all this "see just how ROMANTIC we are, you'd be like the ugly evil witch to try to break us up"

Nah, it's more like the image of herself that she sells. She has to hide the fact that nearly everything on her videos is sponsored.

No. 243184

>>243127
me too anon, well, in general i hate the overuse of 'goals' these days.

i actually feel sorry for her if all of the romantic-dreamy videos of her are fake. it's just so sad to make a 'love life' she would never achieve in real life.

No. 243358

>>243176
Ah, I see that makes sense then.

No. 243416

>>243132
It is, and that's what she's doing

No. 244669

Not even 2 minutes in she piggybacks off Guy Tang talking about not all Asians being the same with a very specific 'different eyelid and lip shapes too~'.
Michelle that'd be a cute thing to say, then smile smugly about if you didn't DESTROY yours. You can't flaunt natural Asian features you made the decision to not have anymore.

No. 244671

>>244669
I honestly love oil slick hair and it looks good on her.

She is still so OTT about everything.

No. 244690

>>244669 when she said sugoi after she saw her bleached hair
fucking cringe

No. 244697

>>244669
She only got it so she could Mary-sue her character from her shitty comic that has yet to come out (sponsorship with web toon and she keeps pushing back.) it's meant to actually come out this month

No. 244705

>>244669
I want to skin her alive for saying "lol I'm so little, I'm the littlest thing you'll ever meet~!" like bitch you're an ugly midget who needed sooo many surgeries just to be comfortable. fuck yourself.

No. 244708

>>244669
LOL
>I let my hair grow out to regrow the cuticle
You can't regrow the cuticle just mask it with silicones shut up. Even if you use olaplex it still means you have bleached hair to maintain and it gets damaged quicker.

She also looks sooo white washed and she mentions being Asian so much but she tried to erase all her ethnic features. Minus her fucking ugly nose, which she got work on but it didn't help lol~

Also these people sound literally retarded.

No. 244743

>>244669
Guy seems uncomfortable around her like he's forcing himself to be friendly and joke-y.

No. 244745

>>244690
I cringed when she implied her eyelids were natural

No. 244810

>>244743
I thought that was just Guy. He doesn't seem to have an off switch. There are a few moments where Michelle almost breaks character in the face of his nonstop Guyness, such as the GRAB MAH TITTIES one.

I kinda love the oil slick hair too, though.

No. 244833

>>244810
Yeah, the dye job is gorgeous. Really well done.

Phan looks like an alien though, no matter what. I'll never understand why she went and tried to get rid of all of her Asian features. The results are awful. She looks like what Dakota tries to shoop herself into.

No. 244846

>>244669
>>244833
Michelle's a hypocrite but I don't see how changing your chin and nose = erasing your Asian features.

It's not like she overhauled her whole face like those Korean women on plastic surgery ads or that other Asian beauty blogger Wengie.

No. 244852

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>>244846
Anon, if you think she only got her nose and chin done you're mistaken. She's had every part of her face altered, and continues to not only lie about it, but preaches on about how beautiful her natural her face is.

She honestly looks hispanic now, and I'm not the only person that has said it. To me, Michelle looks like Aimee Garcia with better teeth.

No. 244899

>>244846
Speaking as an Asian, aren't eyes with fatter eyelids (which Michelle got rid of), wide, squashed in nose (which Michelle tried to get rid of) and flatter face what makes Asian faces, well… Asian? Michelle tried to get rid of 2/3 of that, well, assuming gurugossiper is right about her having shaved off fat from her cheekbone area to give herself a more chiseled look, she's probably done all of the procedures to get rid of her 'asianness' lol.


Apparently she literally cut the outer corners of her eyes to give herself a more 'sleepy' and 'sexy' look lol….her faced looks fucked up at this point.


If you guys are interested, this gurugossiper thread about her plastic surgeries is really interesting: http://gurugossiper.com/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=201

>>244852
I don't see it… to me, she looks like a 65 year old Vietnamese lady who got who fucked up her chin, kinda almost like that Chinese car model who got some real shitty plastic surgery lol

No. 244909

>>244852
I'm pretty convinced she's also had lip fillers in her top lip.

No. 244910

>>244909
I don't think she's had fillers, but she has had a very obvious tattooed lip liner done on her top lip that completely changed the shaped of it.
That she also denies.

No. 244923

>>244910
I tend to go with fillers because it seems more convenient for her to get her chin touched up and the lips as well. Also, when she smiles it's not as flat as it used to be.
But a tattoo is possible. At any rate, she's had something done to it

No. 244924

>>244899
Okay, I can see now what you meant with getting rid of her Asian features. I honestly didn't know she had so much done.

On the other hand, it's sad that ethnic women can't have plastic surgery without being accused of wanting to look Western/white.

No. 244937

>>244910
WTF?! I was reading her posts back when she had her lips tattooed. The was an entire post on it and I think she even had a discount code you could use. Now she's denying it?

No. 244941

>>244937
Like everything she's had done she admits it at some point, then deletes all evidence and denies it. Cause she's crazy. Aside from her outright denial of her nose, her excuses for her eyes are evening them out with 'massages', her lips were tattoos and then she backtracked and said it was lip scrubs and Kylie Jenner plumping devices, and her chin has been anything from 'maybe its fillers ;);) idk' to invisilign, weightloss, and massages.

No. 245057

>>244924
Yeah I get that, like I'm not saying that whenever we get plastic surgery that we get them to look white (especially the double eyelids one) but Michelle in this case…. I think is, trying to get rid of her ethnic features.

No. 245207

>>245057
I'm actually trying to figure out what standard of beauty she's trying to emulate, because it doesn't seem to be Vietnamese… I want to say she started pulling from Korean first, and is now just trying to look more European for some godawful reason. There was nothing wrong with her face before.

No. 245239

>>245207
Her "boyfriend" is French isn't he? Wouldn't surprise if me she was going for s more European look now. I feel like the first of her surgeries wore more Korean centered when she had an Asian boyfriend/ fiance.

No. 245290

>>245239
I don't understand why. Willam already roasted her for use of eyelid tape. You'd think she'd learn.

No. 245371

>>245207
She is. I can't find the screen cap but several years ago she said she wanted to look more white because she saw that as the ideal beauty standard because of our country's shitty media and beauty magazines. It's really heartbreaking when you think about it.

No. 245525

>>245371
Are you sure it wasn't a skin tone thing? Having light skin is pretty standard across the board for most asian cultures, including Vietnamese, but not all the other stuff she's done. It's not like she seemed to have grown up as the only asian kid amound whites either, which again would also make more sense. Another less popular yt-er I watch is half Filapino half black and went to a mostly white school and struggled with her skin color as a result.

Also removing the eye fat was probably the stupidest thing because Europeans can totally have eye fat. Hooded eyes are super common on white ppl wtf.

No. 245528

>>245525
Yes, I'm sure she didn't mean skin color. If it were that, that'd be fine because a lot of Asians like to lighten their skin, but she meant white features. Now she has ruined her face because of it. She looked so much better before she went under the knife.

No. 246036

>>245239
Wow, it's like she changed her beauty preference with whoever she's with. What happened with those 'love yourself' preach things, Mich?

No. 246046

>>246036
Story of Michelle. She doesn't really have a self.

No. 246955

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Can't believe people and herself still deny this. I mean.. It is so obvious???
"No omfgz chins just get poiniter the older you get" wtf man

No. 246993

>>246955
Hmmm…I'm still waiting for my chin to get pointy for my round face.

So Michelle, how does it ~*~naturally~*~ work only for you and no one else?

No. 246999

>>246993
Cause she's blessed by God. Super cool unique things happen to her all the time cause she prays for it, like in her NYC homeless dude story.

No. 247082

>>246955
Michelle has a net worth to afford a thousand surgeries, she should just admit to these mods.

No. 247115

>>246955
If I saw that after picture and I had no idea it was Michelle Phan, I'd assume it was someone who just mixed Asian…

No. 248043

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>>246955
There is something about the "after" image that really reminds me of Jen/frmheadtotoe, only with bigger/rounder eyes. Jen who is 100% Korean American and I believe has yet to get any surgery, at least judging from a scroll through of her google images search, her face is unchanged besides general aging (which isn't a whole lot.)

No. 249101

Cringe..

No. 249113

>>249101
What confused me was that they said that the eyebrow stuff had to be left on for a few hours, and then they took it off right after the other stuff

Also wasn't everyone saying that Promise and Michelle don't get along or something? What happened to that?

No. 249380

>>249113
Promise had a falling out with Michelle at one point (it wasn't incredibly public, but you could tell there was friction) and tried to separate herself from the crazy, but there was some backlash and she likely realized that even though her skills in make up greatly exceeds her sister in law's, Michelle is more 'successful' and needs to ride her coat tails.

I learned of it a few years ago when I was looking around the GG threads about Michelle. I wish Promise didn't have to be stuck with such a vain talentless bitch on YT.

No. 249383

>>249380
I think people cut Promise a lot of slack. She's obviously much more talented and far less drama-prone than Michelle, but it doesn't mean that she's an angel.

No. 249385

>>249383
If you've got some dirt to dish, please do so. No one is perfect, but at least she's not actively suggesting that any work she's had done is just part of the natural aging process.

No. 249402

>>249380

Sister in law? I thought they were cousins.

No. 249403

>>249101
>Thanks for taking time off your BUSY SCHEDULE, Michelle

lol

No. 249405

>>249101

Gosh, her trying to speak korean, especially the "oppa" one. Cringe.

No. 249412

>>249101
Holy shit they are so awkward together. Also Michelle's body language…. Holy shit. So so so bitchy.

No. 249427

>>249402
I believe Promise is married to Michelle's brother.

No. 249640

>>249101
Don't talk shit about Koreans, Michelle they're gonna nuke you. :-)

No. 249641

>>249101
Her korean is so bad…

No. 249674

>>249385
??
I think you took my comment the wrong way. Promise has always struck me as kinda passive-aggressive/bitchy. Nothing that would cause Michelle levels of drama, but since people hate Michelle's bullshit and the two have beef, they act like Promise is a super classy angel. Just my observation.

No. 249681

>>249674
A lot of yt-ers are like that tho. If you look at most content creators they all act like they're friends but you know that there are factions that can't stand each other. I'm not surprised about anyone reading Promise that way, given that she has to put up with Michelle's BS in order to keep a successful YT career. I'd probably be a passive aggressive bitch in her shoes as well.

No. 249707

>>249681
For sure.

Also I wonder how Michelle hooked her brother up with Promise. The timing of their marriage was sort of sketchy. And how awkward must it be for Steve when there's semi-public drama between his wife and sister…

No. 249710

>>249707
I think Promise got married to him well before. I remember them at least being engaged when I first watched a few of their videos, and Promise and Michelle seemed to actually be friends. It was before Michelle had anything done to her face. This was YEARS ago however.

No. 249775

>>249101
Michelle looks extra fake in comparison to Promise. You can just feel the tension there.

No. 249816

>>249710
Yeah in michelles draw my life vid she says something about her brother meeting an amazing woman (i cant remember exactly it was years ago since i watched that)

No. 249844

>>249707
Here she explains how they met.
I have to say it was a little weird listening to it. It's probably safe to say she wouldn't have noticed him if he weren't Michelle's brother, if he didn't send her make up, movie like flowers, etc.
The "little weird part" I was referring to is just the intro when she talks about how many guys she was talking to and Steve just sits there like a confused shy puppy.

No. 249848

>>249844
I'm sure Steve is a nice guy but geez the Phan genetics were not nice to him.

No. 249861

>>249848
holy fuck his nose is huge

No. 249868

>>249844
I think it's because he knows he got a girl who is rather out of his league. He's not even awkward-but-still-cute-Asian. He's very below average.

No. 249873

>>249868
Out of his league appearance-wise, at least. If she were an average fug makeup YouTube guru nobody would bat an eye. IDK what Steve does for a living, but in terms of lifestyle, he and Promise don't seem too different from one another.

No. 250017

File: 1458265692967.jpg (41.72 KB, 650x321, Michelle-Phan-2014-2011[1].jpg)

What a difference a few years makes.

No. 250018

>>250017
It's totally normal for your whole jaw to reshape itself as you age in 3 years.

No. 250023

>>250017
Michelle was fug before her surgeries and she's still fug after her surgeries

No. 250028

>>250017

I almost don't recognize her anymore

No. 250032

>>250017
Is there one of Promise? She looks different too, although obviously not as drastically as Michelle.

No. 250036

File: 1458269552574.jpg (137.19 KB, 1323x416, ss (2016-03-17 at 10.48.53).jp…)

>>250032
Excuse the shitty puush screenshot.
I don't see any real differences at all, it looks like she just got her lids evened out. Nothing extreme and they're symmetrical now so it's only a plus. IMO her features are very beautiful so I'm glad she didn't do anything to them.

No. 250039

>>250036
could you provide a better picture? this isn't really good

No. 250046

>>250039
the picture anon psoted is fine, justlook at her right eye - left picture right eye is single lid (look around inner corner), right picture right eye now has an eyelid visible from inner corner as well

No. 250152

>>250036
I tried to see if someone else complied it, but nope. "Promise Phan before and after" give me her make up transformations and pics of Michelle's plastic surgery comparisons and "Promise Phan Plastic Surgery" gives me basically only Michelle's comparisons.

Whatever promise has done is very minimal and sublte unlike Michelle.

No. 250810

File: 1458391592206.png (173.33 KB, 1280x583, michellephanwebtoon.png)

Apparently, Michelle makes Webtoon now. Sorry to say this, but for an ex art major, I thought her art would be better than this. So far, the story isn't any good either, in my opinion. Still all over the place, even after three chapters.

No. 250814

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>>250810
That looks like a Neopet.
Or a blue Terriermon.

No. 250816

>>250810
I've seen oekaki paintings better than this

No. 250867

>>250810

This is some 2007 level deviant art shit with a dash of Amuria @w@ shiny desu.

No. 250874

File: 1458412242907.jpg (689.87 KB, 618x558, why.jpg)

this shit looks like something i drew in 7th grade, wtf

No. 250880

>>250810
Considering she traces all of her 'original' art, I guess I can at least be happy there's no way she traced something so shit?

No. 250887

>>250874
wow this is hysterically bad

No. 250906

File: 1458419079797.jpg (24.86 KB, 720x544, Puu.jpg)

>>250810
>>250874
I wonder if Michelle is a fan of Yu Yu Hakusho

No. 250912

File: 1458420013502.jpg (10.98 KB, 300x324, mokona.jpg)

>>250906
I was thinking a mixture of Makona from Magic Knight Rayearth and Ryo-Ohki from Tenchi Muyo.

No. 250916

>>250810
>>250874
I thought you guys were just being nitpicky until I actually saw this

No. 250982

>>250874

Wow, her art truly is shit. I thought the drawings on her video were just shitty because she was drawing them super fast, just for the video, so they were going to be more on the unpolished side, more sketch-ish. But no. That's her art style alright. God…

No. 250985

>>250982

Also, sage for samefag, but I'm getting tracing vibes a lot while reading it.

No. 251010

>>250874
What is this 2005 DeviantArt fuckery?

No. 251013

File: 1458451020916.png (993.95 KB, 1738x548, promis.png)

>>250046
but she's looking up from a corner. here, have a better example. she looks the same, really. minus eyebrows

No. 251167

>>251013
Is she wearing lid tape in this video? She sometimes wore lid tape to fix it.

No. 271376

>>249873
I remember in a video he's an engineer.

>>249848
He just didn't get plastic surgery.

No. 271386

>>251013
Ugh those SE Asian eyebrows. Almost as bad as chola brows. I'm glad the straight Korean brow look is catching on over there.

No. 382595

This thread is making me nostalgiac. Was anyone else apart of that michelle phan critical forum in like 2010? I remember there being so many posts about how she's shit at blending makeup and how she got someone else to play on her gamertag to make it look like she was a female gamer.

Anyone remember what that site was called? I think it got shut down after awhile.

No. 382612

Is she still bearding that gay french dude

No. 383490

>>382612
Yeah, she is. And I think he's actually Swiss, he just speaks French.

No. 392137

>muh tragic backstory

No. 392171

>>392137
I didn't know it was possible to be so full of yourself so much

No. 392172

>>392137
Nowhere in that video had she any problems.

>Chose the easier artist school

>Still manage to become successful and rich
>Family is proud
>Feel stressed for a while
>Take a break in nature, feel great
>Conclusion: ?????

Money won't make you happy but basically she's happy because she can afford vacation and provide for her family. What?

No. 392181

>>392137
All that generic 2deep5u motivational speak is insufferable. It's like she read her whole life story off a pinterest board.

>but then I was reminded how god, the universe, whatever power you believe in, has three answers to your prayers: yes, not yet or I have something better

Lmao, girl you put a video on youtube, got lucky with the algorithm and people watched it because you're pretty not because of some divine dispensation.

No. 392191

>>392137
It's the third time she tells the same story

No. 392402

>>392137
According to Forbes her business is worth of 500 million dollars. Not bad.

No. 392427

>>392171
So much lies and exagerration. She just got lucky with YT, right place and right time.

Here she's claming it was all serendipity, god, the universe, and intuition~

No. 392468

>>392402
I wonder how much of that she lost with that music lawsuit though.

>>392427
Well, technically speaking it was serendipity, and at least her mystical bullshit makes more sense than her trying that smart businesswoman schtick she was pulling for a while.

No. 392471

>>392137
I only knew about this video's existance because Promise shared it on her facebook. Did she really buy that shit? I thought Promise was smarter than that. :/

No. 392485

>>392137
She is appealing to people who are emotional, nostalgic and religious….and the whole thing is an advertisement! She is incredibly full of herself and has no shame to flaunt her blatant narcissism.

She wants to be an anime character so bad she literally panders to weeaboos

No. 392507

>>392485
All she did was go on a $200k+ vacation around the world for a year, called it a religious sabbatical, then had professional video shoots made of it.

Perfect backdrop to launch a product, and get money for them lawsuits.

Pretending to have depression for sympathy because her antisocial viewers can't relate to her anymore is a bit predictable tho.

No. 392514

>>392468
Not much. She was sued for 7,5 million, but the charged were dropped and it was settled outside the court. So even if she paid the 7,5 million for copyright infringement for the musical use, it's almost nothing when you have 500 million.

No. 392522

>>392514
>thinking she has 500million

That's not how it works.

No. 392553

>>392137
Wow that was so bad.

>cheesy ~sentimental~ music and animation

>"Money doesn't make you happy!!"
>spends money for a vacation to make herself happy
>fucking advertisment at the end LOL

Her comeback is so disingenous. She could have made a video directly talking to her viewers face-to-face like "oh sorry guys I had a lot of shit on my plate, I'll do my best to interact with my viewers from now on" instead of this fake-as-shit insincere video designed to peddle her new projects/products by tugging at heartstrings.

No. 392560

>>392137

I rarely look at this thread, but this video is a total lie.

I was friends with Michelle waaaaaay back in 2003-2007 on Xanga. She did not start launching herself into the beauty world after getting rejected from a job, nor did she come from abject poverty.

Back then, she was clearly at LEAST an upper-middle class asian girl attending Ringling College of Art & Design, a 60k+ institution per semester.

Initially, she was super into gaming and digital illustration/painting. She wanted to work in the gaming industry, at the time she was playing up the "hot gamur gurl" thing. She owned all kinds of expensive consoles and peripherals, and an expensive drawing tablet.

Later on (and why I eventually stopped following her, besides the fact that Xanga was dying), she started getting into beauty and fashion - a rich boyfriend seemed to be involved. She posted a lot of "modeling" stories with all the cheesy hunk & fancy car accouterments. It definitely seemed like she was trying to get into modeling and fashion, and she more or less dropped the creative gal/gamer gurl persona to the sidelines at this point.

She also started posting homemade skincare recipes on Xanga at this time, and got a lot of positive feedback, so she grew it into a main topic on her blog, and started posting videos, too.

I stopped following her around then, but the next time i heard her name was as a Youtube beauty "guru."

No. 392564

>>392560

So… was she into anime or nah?

No. 392565

File: 1496481825250.png (83.68 KB, 1242x291, IMG_2502.PNG)

>>392522
Ok. Her business is worth 500 million, but whatever she has earned by now, wouldn't be blown away by 7,5 million lawsuit that was eventually dropped.

No. 392593

>>246955
That's some pretty good plastic surgery imo

>>392560
That's interesting. I thought the story was pretty horrible on its own but to think she made most of it up is pretty bad.

No. 392604

>>392593
She was actually pretty nice and interactive with other artists in that community back then, too. The fake dripping from her personality now was not really a thing, she was pretty genuine and if she had the ego she does now, she hid it a lot better.

No. 392619

Michelle is also a scam artist. She had a giveaway for iqqu on twitter a few years ago where she "randomly selected" two people as winners. I was one of the winners and I was also a friend of hers back in her xanga days. The other winner is a popular german youtuber. He messaged me asking me if Michelle had sent the prize and we both came to realize she wasn't going to send anything. We did message her and she placed fault on us saying "We didn't know our own addresses" and claimed that the prizes had been sent back to her. This didn't make sense. She said she attempted to send them out again, but nothing ever came of it.

Her lying about Mr. bun bun's death was so bizarre. That was around the time I stopped talking to her. Michelle is odd, and that video was just like all her others. She is a machine now, no life in her eyes.

No. 392626

>>392593
her chin looks awful though, its way too long and pointed for her face. it makes her whole face look unnatural.

No. 392742

>>392471
Considering they are in laws, I always wonder which shares are genuine and which are family favors.

No. 393180

>>392564

not the same anon but I'm pretty sure she was into anime and into video games… but she kind of plays it up ten fold. especially her video game hobby.

in vid related she also plays up "muh tragic backstory"

>her explanation of mgs

>Link's Awakening is underrated
>"the Hordes"

A long time ago she had a COD:MW2 contest. I don't recall the specifics but I think they just played free for all and the people with the highest scores would win some iQQU (her skincare line) products. After she broke up with her boyfriend at the time, he came onto gurugossip(er) which had a very prominent anti-Michelle community and confessed that he was the one who played for her.

No. 393191

>>392560
I started following her in 2010, this chick started my lolcow obsession, firstly through gurugossip. (RIP Lulu)

Before her Xanga days, she apparently had a blogger where she said she was a Wiccan or someshit. No one ever provided a link, though so I don't know if it was just a rumor. Do you know about this?

This is her old blogger, it's got some funny edgy teen shit if anyone is interested.

https://web.archive.org/web/20051210042003/http://ricebunny.blogspot.com:80/

I hope she becomes more active and produces more milk. She hasn't really produced anything good in 5 years. I heard she plagiarized her honorary doctorate acceptance speech. That's pretty funny.

No. 393263

>>392171
This video didn't seem that conceited though

No. 393269

Old video chat where Michelle tries to use her weeaboo ways to seduce nigahiga

No. 393405

>>392137
>"Back then, I was just someone who was showing you how to look more beautiful. Now, I want to show you how to feel more beautiful."
>"If you'd like to see what I've been working on for the past year, check out my revamped EmCosmetics!"
Hmm.

No. 395773

Just to add to some of the chin comments, it's not out of the question that it could just be Invisalign like she said.
I had a bad overbite as a child, and looking back at photos now my chin very small compared to after braces.

No. 395821

>>395773
Your chin can definitely become more pronounced with corrective braces, but braces don't suddenly turn the shape of your lower jaw bone from non existent and round, to a pointy Koreaboo V line. Braces can't magically alter the length of space between your lower lip and the tip of your chin.

No. 397993

She's back

No. 398041

>>397993
Back making shit content.

So much for her enlightening Switzerland trip that changed her life.

No. 398045

File: 1497718599445.jpg (30.05 KB, 801x282, Lippy.jpg)

>>395821
>Braces can't magically alter the length of space between your lower lip and the tip of your chin.

Aktually they can, if you have a terrible overbite+overjet your lower lip will be forced to extend to the upper one in an unnatural way to close your mouth(lip incompetence), this will make your chin appear larger. This is however the opposite of Michelle's case as braces in the aforementioned situation would make the distance between your lip and point of your chin smaller.

No. 398069

>>398045
That looks like an orthognatic surgery case. Michelle's teeth were never severe enough to warrant a significant change in her jaw shape

No. 398146

>>397993
I guess her new product isn't doing as well as she expected?

No. 398812

>>397993
she looks a bit disheveled(sage this)



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