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LUXYMOO/ONISION DRAMA AT >>324533
>He said that he thought my mind was broken. He said he thought I may be sexually dormant. He then would say that he thinks i'm a good person and that i'm the safer alternative. He called me a good distraction. He wanted me to still come up. But that was a fleeting thought. He said friendship would be hard, and that I was doing everything I could to avoid a relationship with Lainey. Then he pitched the idea of me being with Lainey exclusively, while he's with Lainey exclusively. Like we wouldn't be doing sexual things together. I still declined because 1. he had spent so much time invalidating MY feelings on the matter, attacking my personality, pressuring me
The latest in the Onion House of Harems:
-Billie is back!
-Onion makes 800th "We broke up" "Just kidding" video
-Lainey makes a private twitter to complain about Billie
-Another Vegetarian Boday video
-Sarah and Billie are getting cozy.
Not much more milk…yet!
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>Not much more milk…yet!
A storm is brewing
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pls come to lolcowchan and tell us your story now that you officially lurk
This stupid clone brat, thinks she's relevant in all the Onion dramu…
You're a nobody kid, stop embarrassing yourself
Is she really talking about us though?
second sounds like she posted about herself. "more put together than billhill"
yeah okay sweaty
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uh….… hi….. so i found this place like yesterday and only read the last thread about onision…… he really fucked me over & i see you talking about luxymoo & greg fucked her over too……. i told her about the blogs not the other girl because i wanted to make sure it was true so i can post more of our convo if you want but yeah …..
Oh, so greg propositioned you? or you are/were interested in him?
Just trying to understand =)
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thank you for sharing what you have!
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this is magical
SO, You were talking to Greg about meeting up with him and Lainey and he says that he hadn't invited anyone else, but he had also invited luxymoo too? So he's trying to juggle all these women and hope one of them takes the bait?
JFC. Also NO ONE should be surprised that he's literally selling his wife to whatever bitch wants her. They're not even talking to Lainey about meeting them, it all goes through Greg…
"I remember that you said you want to pay for your ticket, but please consider it my christmas gift to you."
more like>Hey let me pay so I can start a tally in my head of the debt you owe me and you'll have to have sex with me in order to justify my large gift
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Holy fuck this is glorious.
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SUCH a manipulator! Classic tactic: YOU'RE the only one he can trust, not Lainey… she's disappointed him, but YOU won't, right?
Lol who said there was no milk today?
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why is she so ashamed to have her story told? Is she still trying to ride the onision/taylor train?
Greg is such a fucking creep and these messages confirm that he's been using his young wife as a tool to manipulate young girls into coming to have sex with him.
Remember when he said they weren't accepting applicants for replacements? But he's out here actively searching for women who will jump on him?
Thank you for sharing your milk, thank god you didn't share nudes with that pervert
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theres this too!…… guess lain doesnt want ppl to know the truth????? lol
Thank you for doing this. If not for Lainey, then for all of the potential future girls Greg is aiming to manipulate and abuse.
This, combined with his treatment of Billie pre-return and his multiple videos where he's obviously fishing for a new teenager to BLATANTLY CHEAT ON HIS WIFE WITH is making me feel ill.
YOOOOO IM SO SORRY. Lainey said ALL the same things to me that Greg said to you. That I seemed "trustworthy" and explained that she ~normally doesn't do this~ when she gave me her cell number. I was also barely 19 when it happened. Holy fuck. Seeing all this is like reopening wounds. I feel so bad for you and Hayley.
Did they just drop all contact and act like they didn't even know you, too???
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I'm digging through our twitter convos now anon gimme a few. I did find this tho, you can see my message reaching out to her after the first cuddlegate, and my other message being totally ignored.
Girl, you saw the problem, you dodged the bullet! Good on you. He's manipulated probably a hundred young girls like this. If you read more on him, he's wanted to start his own religion for years so he can manipulate more young girls, like Charles Manson.
If you had let him "gift" you that ticket - and good job saying you'd pay yourself - he would have turned that into you "owing" him, he always does this with plane tickets and his new targets.
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I really hate how he's jerking all these girls around. It's depressing AND infuriating. They're only young man they havent seen what lies in the dark hearts of men like him.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
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SAME. When I told Taylor I wasn't interested in Greg she dropped me completely. I had a weird feeling he read all our convos too. Also just digging through and finding interesting things.
Don't feel dumb bby, you were smart and knew something was up and like other anons have said good on you for wanting to pay your own way.
You're 100% right that people need to know he's doing this shit, because I GUARANTEE that there are other girls out there who got the same messages. And if not now, then he'll just do it again the next time Billie flies home.
Its fucking disgusting, he is literally preying on young girls and he just gets away with it. If this was any other Youtuber, he would be getting so much shit from it from other Youtubers!
you never talked to her, but greg seems to think you're capable of making her happy again?
this is so fucking bizarre
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It really never was I guess. I was really hurt when Billie showed up. I wasn't hearing back from Taylor for a couple days and just assumed she was busy with school and Troy but NOPE. Just got a different gf. Also she and Jess were never dating, probably because she's a lesbian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't think she's "okay" with what happened. But look at her…she seems so lifeless compared to before. Ok, she was boring back in the day but now she looks utterly miserable.
That's what happens when you feel so unhappy in a prison-type relationship. Eventually you just numb out and stop caring.
Tbh I don't really care about her anymore. I used to feel bad for her like 6 months ago. But yeah, I don't think she's really
okay with everything that's happening
Holy shit, this cannot be real
Christmas cannot be so early, I refuse to accept it.
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just in case she doesnt have time to answer everyone at once !!
hey gurl hey
like other anons said, do you mind posting some proof you're luxy? like screenshots of any convos you had with either greg or lainey.
assuming you are luxy, i thin kthe biggest question i have is how did you start a dialogue with the two and when? was it with lainey first or greg? basically just take is from the start to finish.
it seems like these stories will be be pretty similar so maybe there are other girls who will see what happened with you and milk-chan and realize they got played
Hi babe, I'm so sorry you got dragged into the Onision sarlac pit.
So you are Taylor were friends / romantic interests? And that fell apart when you weren't interested in greg?
Does it seem to you like greg controls her communication and accounts, or does she voluntarily shut down communication when someone won't have sex with greg?
Thanks for speaking out. He's been ruining young women's lives with early grooming and abuse for years. It's about time people speak out.
Why respect their privacy? Did you sign some sort of NDA for knowing things about them?
If this was all greg and Taylor had barely any involvement in it, shouldn't you say something for future prospects?
Luxymoo, milk anon, lainey anon (i think there's 3 different people here) i just want to thank you guys for doing this. i can practically hear the gerprage from here.
just know we got yr back
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Merry Christmas! The milk came early this year.
Just wanna thank you guys so much for stepping in tonight and showing just how horrible Gargoyle is, and I'm so sorry you guys had to go through this with them.
Today is a glorious day, farmers!
MilkAnon, LaineyAnon and LuxyMoo are heroes.
Shit man, we need to blast this far and wide. Maybe make a video of the screencaps and put it on YT. Get the word out to young girls.
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I wish I had more milk to spill y'all i really do. Back when we were talking, Greg very much had the charade that this was all for Taylor very much alive. I honestly thought I'd only be dating her, not him. With the amount of genuine girls who seem to care about Taylor, it's shocking that she's keeping Billie around.
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H O L Y S H I T
THX LUXY AND MILK CHAN
BURN THAT MOTHERFUCKER
Oh it makes sense - he's a master at IMPLYING so as to be able to deny any culpability.
I've seen his type over and again, and it makes me sick
I tweeted a picture of myself to Lainey wearing their merch. They retweeted it and then followed me immediately after. I was in shock, excited, I think i even screamed. Then, out of no where, Lainey messaged me. I was so stoked. I thought, "This can't be real." We talked for awhile on twitter, they asked if I was interested in girls and I told them I felt like I was heteroflexible. That I liked certain girls, that I had a type. Lainey said they didn't know if they were my type or not. I said that they were. Soon after that, Lainey said it would be easier for us to text. I gave them my number, and they started texting me the next day. We were flirty with each other. We got to know each other on a more personal level and I ended up liking them.. a lot. Greg messaged me telling me that if I was not serious about Lainey, to not lead them on. I told Greg that I wasn't that kind of person, and that I really liked Lainey. At the time, I still thought this is what I wanted. Lainey and I continued to talk for a few more days when greg messaged me again, pitching the three way relationship. I told myself that I would not be Billie. I would not be with Greg AND Lainey. That if this were to continue, I would only be interested in Lainey. However, when Greg pitched the idea to me, I had already started liking Lainey a lot more than I expected. I told him I wanted to try. After that I started doing research on what it meant to be in a three way relationship. I came to the conclusion that it wasn't for me. Which killed me, because all I wanted to do was be with Lainey. I wanted to try for them, but at the end of the day, I had to consider my personal feelings on the matter. I knew I couldn't be what they wanted, because I wanted Lainey. I told Lainey as soon as I came to that conclusion. I wanted to be honest. I didn't want to drag it out. Lainey didn't respond to me.. but Greg did. He said that if he were in my position, he would do whatever it takes to be with Lainey. He said that I didn't really care about Lainey, that all i was looking for was friendship. He said that he thought my mind was broken. He said he thought I may be sexually dormant. He then would say that he thinks i'm a good person and that i'm the safer alternative. He called me a good distraction. He wanted me to still come up. But that was a fleeting thought. He said friendship would be hard, and that I was doing everything I could to avoid a relationship with Lainey. Then he pitched the idea of me being with Lainey exclusively, while he's with Lainey exclusively. Like we wouldn't be doing sexual things together. I still declined because 1. he had spent so much time invalidating MY feelings on the matter, attacking my personality, pressuring me, etc. and 2. I also knew that that wasn't what they wanted, and I told him that we would still hit that road block of me wanting exclusiveness. He had said in a previous conversation that it was like him and Lainey were on an island and I had a boat, but I wouldn't throw them a life line because I wasn't the right boat. Said that they didn't know what they were going to do about Billie, because Lainey was talking about bringing her back I guess at that time? He told me to stop responding, because I was just making it worse.
All while I'm feeling like a shitty person, like I really did hurt them. I felt so terrible about myself over the whole situation. Not shortly after, Greg posts a video with Billie. I was immediately enraged. I felt so used. Lainey then texted me, but only to say hey. We didn't talk about the situation. They would stop texting me randomly and then text me again randomly. Now I'm blocked, and all of this has come to light. I didn't know people knew it was me. I didn't know there was a tumblr with people talking about me. I thought only a select few people knew. But I was wrong, and now it's all out in the open.
ALSO. SIDE NOTE. While I have tweeted about this situation a few times, most of the tweets that are screen shotted of me are based on situations that I'm going through in my real life. Family/normal friend drama. No one follows me on twitter that I know irl so I feel comfortable venting there. Please stop assuming what my tweets are about.
Aside from that, any questions?
Thank you anon, you are awesome.>>324474
Sorry you were dragged into this. Please know we feel for you and we are here to help not harm. Share what you feel is right, no pressure.
thank you so much for telling us this
so you never had any idea billie was going back?
Thank you for taking the time to tell us your side.
God, Greg is a monster. Im glad you didn't fall for his manipulation
Firstly, thank you.
Secondly, you didn't do anything to hurt Lainey, don't worry, it was probably just Greg trying to emotionally manipulate you again.
Also the whole bit about your mind being broken, I'm sorry he said those types of things to you, he is a tool and this is what he chooses to do in his spare time instead of being a father or a decent human being.
I do think poly couples are valid, but in no way was Lainey ever poly.
I'm sorry that this happened to you.
holy shit, they're both so scummy. i'm sorry all of your business got out there like that, but thank you for exposing onion's gross scheming ass in particular.
also i'm rlly glad that you never fell into their clutches irl…lordt what a mess.
Oh wow. Reading that made me a bit sick tbh (heavily reminds me of conversations with my abusers).
Here's the thing. All you did was 1. Be honest and upfront about what you wanted out of the relationship and 2. Enforce your boundaries. You didn't do anything to hurt them. They're a married couple who should understand that not everyone will want both of them. Greg was really invasive and way too pushy with you and I'm sorry he made you feel like it was your fault.
>>324533>>Greg messaged me telling me that if I was not serious about Lainey, to not lead them on
So he inserted himself into the situation almost right away, under a false guise of protecting Taylor
>>Lainey and I continued to talk for a few more days when greg messaged me again, pitching the three way relationship
He uses her as bait, or, he reads her messages
>>I told him I wanted to try. After that I started doing research on what it meant to be in a three way relationship. I came to the conclusion that it wasn't for me
Oh Lord thats like waving a red flag at a bull for a narcissist. Then they pounce and call you a liar / bad person / went back on your word. Because you aren't allowed to change your mind (you totally are, he's an ass)
>>I knew I couldn't be what they wanted, because I wanted Lainey. I told Lainey as soon as I came to that conclusion. I wanted to be honest. I didn't want to drag it out. Lainey didn't respond to me.. but Greg did. He said that if he were in my position, he would do whatever it takes to be with Lainey.
And he inserted himself right back in. Because his needs come before your feelings or needs, of course. What a fucker.
>>He said that he thought my mind was broken. He said he thought I may be sexually dormant
Because he cannot fathom someone NOT wanting to sex him, so to him, it jst must be a dormant feeling. NO. NO.
>>He called me a good distraction
Fuck him. Asshole.
>>All while I'm feeling like a shitty person, like I really did hurt them
NOPE. You are a good and reasonable and kind person. He is a sociopath, and he wanted to parlay your need to be a good person and your interest in Taylor into him fucking you against your very strong desire to not fuck him.
Girl. You've been through the ringer. All of the hugs to you. You did nothing wrong. He is a fucked up narcissist and sociopath, and god knows how much Lainey is involved in helping him bait women (or whether she's another victim). You got out with minimal involvement. You are great. You are strong. You are loved. Your feelings are valid.
Thank you so so much for telling us this. Really. I'm sorry they played you. But I am very glad you saw how shitty Gargoyle was like, pressuring you and shit. You really dodged a bullet there.
Now, for a question: Do/did you follow Lainey's private twitter? If so, did she rant there about Billie/Greg/The current situation in the household or talked about how unhappy she was? That could be really telling. Could even help Lainey.
thank you for sharing and sorry you got involved in this mess and treated the way you were.
so greg made it clear that if you wanted to be with lainey you needed to also be in a relationship with him too? an intimate relationship?
So his calling younsexually dormant and his other insults is basically a pickup artist move, negging, to lower your self-confidence and make you more susceptible to doing what he wants you to do. So good for you for sticking to your guns. It can be very difficult to resist that sort of psychological pressure, especially when it is done by someone as practiced as Greg.
I am so sorry all that happened to you and the other anons posting tonight.
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i'm just so happy that you girls could see onion's manipulative ways before getting into his weird lifestyle. when billie leaves them again (she will) they will have no one to turn to for their creepy sex mansion.
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Holy fuck the thread is pinned, the milk fountains are running
Jesus fucking Christ. What a maniac. He tried to force you to second guess yourself and guilt you into staying. This is proof he is 100% in control of what he's doing and is absolutely lying every time he plays this as something 'innocent'.
What a psychopathic piece of shit.
For what it's worth, you went in with good faith, kept an open mind, and did your best to work with people who saw you as something between a blow-up doll and emotional crutch. You're welcome to claim the moral high ground on this one. Regardless, we're all just glad you're safe.
Having said that, the probability of an Onion video for that sweet drama $$$ is honestly pretty high. Do you think it would do any good to try and respond with the truth, or to put it in your past?
How you feel now will pass with time, unfortunately that's the number one thing abusers are great at doing; making you feel bad for the shitty things they're doing to you, especially when they think that you might be catching on to the act.
I truly hope you can find peace in your situation and I know many other anons have already said this, but I am so sorry for what they've put you through, stay strong!
It's almost scary how identical our situations were,,,,,wow I'm sorry girl. I know it hurts. I was the same, I used a new nickname for all my online interactions with Taylor, keeping myself out of the spotlight and keeping everything extremely private. I was going to visit them, but never planned on participating in videos.
The betrayal hurt SO bad, but out of respect for Taylor I stayed quiet. Now I'm just mad. Completely enraged that they pulled this shit with not only one, but two other girls. And lord knows who else.
I don't think anything is your fault. It was shitty of gerg to attack you and try to make you feel bad for being honest with him that you didnt think it'd work out. You only talked to them online about trying to make it work, and realized it didnt. How is that doing anything bad?>>324582
That is so creepy. He inserts himself in all her relationships by texting the girl separately to try to "negotiate" a three way relationship. Wtf.
Yeah it sounds like the relationship would have been normal and fine until Greg inserted himself, that is so fucking wrong.
Again Luxy we are here for you. You did nothing wrong.
Sorry that happened to you, Luxy. I know that this image board can seem like it just wants to bring people down and talk badly about them, but a lot of people have been trying to warn people about Gregory for a long time now. He is extremely manipulative and predatory, all while being married and having children. Thank you for speaking up. I am happy that it is Billie instead of you being there, even though you're hurting. I don't want more people to get dragged into this.
And I know that you said that you wouldn't talk about private information, which I respect, but from what I can tell I wish that Lainey would live without Greg because I don't think that he's good for them in any way. She lost a good friend with you.
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This is the only screen shot I'll post. I also want to say that we all had some really good conversations too. Greg was kind at first when I came forward, and understanding too. These conversations weren't all terrorizing or mean.
Kind at first is how it always works with manipulators. If they were awful out of the gate, everyone would stay away from them. You're welcome to your privacy, of course :D
Very curious, though. Without divulging anything you'd prefer to keep secret, do you think Lainey loves Billie?
Man, he really laid it on thick. This has every bit of manipulation he could muster, coming at you from all angles so no matter what you'd feel like a bad person for having feelings and being honest about them.
Guess greg doesn't like honestly so much when it's not his own, huh?
Yeah manipulators do that. They act nice and "understanding" and try to negotiate you into doing what they want.
That whole "Lainey's theory" seems more like his theory.
i don't think she would answer that…
maybe leave it as "do you think she likes billie"
well do you, luxy?
That's the worst part about abusive people. They aren't on their worst behavior all the time. They can be really normal and loving, until you do something they don't like.
It's not your fault and it is perfectly fine for you to feel shitty about it.
>>324602>Lainey's theory was that you dont really care about her
I'm using Lainey who you care about to say what I am thinking to try to make you prove you care about lainey by agreeing to what we want.
>I don't know what we're going to do about billie
Making it clear that Billie is an option and to have Billie not come back, all you have to do is agree to be her replacement. Trying to get you to feel jealous that Billie might come back if you dont.
>We're screaming for you throw us a line
He is making it sound like him and lainey need you and you can be the "right boat" only if you fulfill all the requirements.
Abusers are really great at listening all about you at the start - it gives them a lot to hit you with later. It's called "love bombing", making you feel like you're the ONLY one who can help, can save them, who really understands, who can be trusted, etc etc.
That's why you don't know much about him. He doesn't want you to know him, because if you saw the real him, you'd run for the hills.
After all this, and the screenshots, I have no doubt in my mind that after Cuddlegate 1.0, Greg got power over all of Lainey's accounts. I dont doubt that she still uses them, but I know for sure that it was Greg who demanded Lainey block them. He's legitimatley a disgusting creepy, and you anons were so fucking right. He's never going to leave her because she's his loli ticket. She's the welcoming face that brings in his victims, even though she obviously doesn't fucking like it and every time he says "my wife" (not using her name, ever, might I add, which is a manipulation tactic) he's using her image as a way to ease into their sweetspots a little more.
And Bilbo Slaggans fucking took the bait, for ol' greasecock. Filthy.
She's just his scapegoat, wow. This is absolutely disgusting, and I'm still getting caught up. Gurgoyle truly is behind who she talks to. He seriously controls her that much.
God, I wish we could run this fucker off the internet for good.
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Not nearly as milky as everything else, but did anyone else notice this?
We might get a little more milk out of this. Christmas is early. :D
I'm so sorry that you fell for Lainey but had to deal with Greg's sociopathic bullshit. I really wish they were able to stand up to him. I'm certain they were wanting to be your friend (which is why they would try to message you), but Greg forced them to block you eventually.
This entire situation is so fucked up. Lainey finally found someone who cared about them, and Greg had to fuck it all up. And now you have to deal with the fallout, and he gets to blame it all on Lainey. You didn't hurt Lainey, please don't worry. That was all Greg's bullshit manipulation. Fuck that literal cesspool.
With all this happening to you, I'm fucking shocked and disgusted. I could not imagine what Lainey has had to go through day by day. No wonder they've given up.>>324602
I PROMISE you that Lainey did not think that. Those are Greg's words he's using to manipulate you into feeling bad. He's the one who forced them to block you. He's a disgusting human being.>>324621
You don't have to respond, but if you're still reading, please take care of yourself as well as you can, Luxymoo.
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This is way back from the early days of their marriage, and there was never any real proof except EO saying they had "all the proof they needed" to believe her.
No one believed it then, and they shouldn't now. >>29193
it's in this thread.
This sounds like blantant bullshit, but I'm sure those dipshits bought it, like they buy everything from that piece of shit blog. I'm peeved that they got linked here, but at least you can tell who they are because they're too stupid to lurk.
Speak of the devil.
THIS ONE TIME AT BAND CAMP
bring screenshots of Gregs convos, or recordings of his skype calls, or fuck off.
look at the way everyone else is called anonymous. Then look at your name. You have typed anon in the same box. Before you had Sarah in the name box. Before that, you put your real name and email address.
Take your info out of all of the boxes - name, email, subject - and stop starting childish fights and bringing up unprovable nonsense. No one believes anything EO writes here, you need to bring proof.
Sore fucking thumb.
Kindly fuck back there, then. Post these types of comments on your tumblr, if you're so inclined. Don't derail threads.
Who the fuck uses a yahoo address?
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I'm not sure which part of the person's post you're disagreeing with or demanding proof for, but if it's the claim that Billie dated a registered sex offender, she really did. This is him. Billie dated him for a while (if you go back to the beginning of her Instagram account, you can find pictures of him on there with her) before he committed suicide.
Thanks. And Lux and Taylor were into each other, which make sense given her age. It seems that Greg might be the one into the teens rather than Lainey.
TaylorAnon, do you mind telling us how old you are? Greg was targeting you as well, and if you are also under age 20 that gives us a decent indication that greg is the one interested in under-20s, not Lainey.
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I hope this isn't considered derailing?
Just posting so everyone knows that the Admin of EO is seriously bitching about people not taking their claims seriously because they won't post so much as a single screenshot for proof, or else it'll just ruin someone's life.
Getting sick of them coming in here, making baseless claims, and shitting up the threads just because they'll believe whatever an anon submits them.
Saged, just in case this counts as derailing.
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No one cares who you are, only that you are talking about things that are not real milk about Greg. You can get many asspats on tumblr. I do not wish to deprive you of them, but I fear you shall not receive them here.
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Holy shit. I have no words for this thread. So much milk, it has me reflecting on my own life instead of just being a distraction from it.
The ride never ends.
What a sick eff. This is such a manipulative thing to say.
He's probably going to act like it was all a joke or he did it for Elaine.
Exactly. That's the kind of crowd they bring, and I really wish their braindead admin hadn't linked them here.
At least we got the milk of a lifetime, but it was bittersweet. Greg really fucked luxy and milkanon over. And Bilbo STILL went back.
EO for whatever reason in subtle ways protects this degenerate. They seed enough drama to keep it all relevant then pull back before anything too real happens, meaning anything that this cunt actually deserves. I can't really get behind that.
Also, this video is more relevant now than ever before. Probably a real peek of what goes on in that house whenever greasecock doesn't get "massage" or "anime" time.
thread went from milky to shitty real quick.
anyway, seems like MilkAnon has more dirt on greg than the other two girls. the fact that neither of them spoke about lainey is whats really interesting >>324469
looking forward to those screenshots
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I love this post in retrospect of things
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WHAT. THE ACTUAL. FUCK.>>324414
not only that, I'm pretty sure he cuts off access to Lainey if you aren't interested in being with HIM, along with being with Lainey too.
I hope Billie knows this, so she knows what bullshit was happening behind the "I miss you"'s and the "so sad"'s Lainey and Greg were feeding her.>>324474>>324533>>324556>>324563>>324577>>324582>>324587>>324602>>324612>>324614>>324621>>324646>>324649
Haylee, thank you so much for coming forward. You're probably hella stressed with what's been happening and I'm very sorry you got played by Lainey and Greg like that but very happy you got out of there. Best of luck.
diff anon, but what video is that?
the only video I remember him making is the video where he said him pushing Shiloh didn't count bc she was too fat
Maybe this one?https://vid.me/511P
He talks about how he's not an abuser, by describing is abuse.
His explanation for filming this was that if he hadn't and she had committed suicide he would've been arrested under suspicion of homicide when the police arrived. To me that speaks volumes of his pathological mind. Why would the police have thought that? If she committed suicide it would be rather obvious he had no involvement so why worry…cold as that is to say though I'm not defending him one bit. His explanation makes no sense given what we see, nor does the look he gives the camera before filming her help to convince anyone of his innocence.>>324745>>324749
There's some evidence through his actions after this to suggest they intended to return and investigate the situation further. Immediately after this Greg left his home and hid in an undisclosed hotel for a brief period before moving in with I believe Cyr and another YouTuber for a while. My thoughts are that he knew the police were eventually going to see that it's bizarre a sixteen/seventeen year old from another country is living in the house of random adult and were going to question him after assigning her to a women's shelter and booked it before they could return. Narcs maybe good at messing with the minds of some authority figures but police eventually see enough of that behavior to call it out from a mile away. They do deal with these types on a daily basis, don't forget. >>324753
No he didn't. He justified doing it. Even left out that she was pregnant with his child at the time to save face.
I'm really hoping that Billie leaves Lainey and Greg because of the girls that came forward and the possibility of more being out there. How she can be with TWO people that groom their fans and play them like that whilst telling her that they "love" her and "miss" her is beyond me.
Even more, I hope Sarah gets the courage to leave as well. She doesn't deserve to be frozen out the way Lainey is freezing her out. >>324769
EO, or Exposing Onision, is a blog site run by Stevie Gore, a former Anti-Onision youtuber,and some other nameless admins that generally gossip about Greg and his life and admittingly, don't do more than that.
Stevie also claims to have anonymous sources and insiders but never reveals them and sometimes even admits that they get their "top secret info" from the internet, just like everyone else. Basically, she's annoying, creepy, and a huge liar.
They have their own joint thread over here >>>/snow/190148
sage for off topic
Went unnoticed because of the milk, but he uploaded a Speaks video today of him and Billie basically just being assholes to fan submitted pics on his forums.
Billie is just as shitty as he is.
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I remember that
and afterwards, Lainey said on twitter that her and Billie never went as far as kissing.
It was at the time, she also said that the "Lillie" tattoo was all Greg's idea and not hers.
Who knows? Most of his fans are a bunch underaged girls who won't give a shit and say it's photoshopped or that it's his life and no one's business.
He's gonna have fans no matter what he does.
the only way that will ever happen anon is if onion gets busted for diddling a 15yo and gets sent to prison. or goes and shoots up a school like he's always fantasized about. and even then, there are those creepy fans that gush all over criminals. even if lamo leaves him and comes out with all the bullshit he's pulled on her, he'll still have fans. i mean, look what he did to shiloh.
not much we can do.
removing him from youtube would be amazing. The farthest from "to much", in my opinion.
It cuts him off from a good portion of his fanbase and, more importantly, cuts off most of his sources of income (not sure if Lainey makes money from her channel and you know he's going to push Sarah to do something with her channel so he can get a portion of the profits).
this and everything
it really makes me sick
lainey, i fucking hate you. I FUCKING HATE YOU for staying with this fucking monster who thinks he can get away with this manipulation and abuse, you're a fucking doormat and a shit person and I don't sympathize for you, AND YOU TOO BILLIE you're a fucking adult and your actions are idiotic, giving this disgusting creep what he wants.
He wants to fuck up girls lifes. He gets off on it. He loves lying about it and everyone praising his actions. Thats why he makes youtube videos, he knows everyone will believe him if he just calls it comedy.
He deserves to be alone where he can just fade away and go crazy, he's a fucking sociopath.
Just making sure, does anyone else see the pink name that says Sarah on this post? ^^^
…is she among us?
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Here is creepy Onion texts in one picture
Cyr and SR are definitely the best option.
We can even contact Vexxy-chan, barf.. ughhh… I'm sure he'd love that and make a video very quickly
I think it's actually a good idea to at least expose how he is trying to lure teenage girls.
Sure, most of his fantards will stay, but if a small amount of them leaves- that would be great.
i dont reckon cyr or SR are going to touch this with a ten foot pole. theyve each said their piece about bunion, i doubt theyll be too interested in getting into more.
id shoot it to one of the drama youtubers instead. they'll have a field day.
Vex would probably attack the girls tbh. It's like that time some anons contacted Keem about Venus but he ended up attacking her instead.
Try choosing someone who doesn't hate women.
h3h3 would never. His audience are mostly centrist meminists who would think that he was beating a dead horse. Keemstar's audience are braindead/right wing zealots who would probably side with onion.
The only thing that would fuck onion up would be someone that share a similar audience to him, but bigger. I'm not sure who it would be though.
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Wowwee! Did Xmas come early or what?
So anons were right all along, it was him doing the poon-hunting, it was him orchestrating it all from the start, there was never any intention of Lainey ever having her own, personal girlfriend… he's a greasy motherfucker through and through!
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>>He said that if he were in my position, he would do whatever it takes to be with Lainey
All this shit is EXACTLY the same way he used to talk to Adrienne! All ultimatums, no compromises whatsoever.
Remember how he would berate her, invalidate her feelings whenever she didn't agree with him or do what he says, I can't believe that after 10 years; he hasn't changed a fucking bit! I can't believe this is how he actually interacts with people, it's so robotic and unnatural, he's a true blue narc sociopath.
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sage for ot, but ha, how fitting
Fucking top kek>>324873
I know shes not a drama youtuber but what about its black friday? Just for the fact shes responded to him a few times after he made 4 different videos on her and did a video about eugenia after onion boy kept attacking her.
I do agree with other anons here that the info should be out there if for nothing else to warn others who are more naive. Hes got no issues getting involved in other youtubers drama time he got a taste of his own medicine.
Onision drama is definitely
not beauty-related, lol.
We don't document "timelines" here; the threads are based on current events as they happen.
Try lifeofonion.com instead.
>Onion isn't beauty related>Kuckian likes to feel like the bigger person on everything and would try to get involved but at the same time still be like "I dont know if this is real or not guys! Dont send hate toward onision :)">Hes in college and takes a fuckload of time to work on videos. Remember jis PiinkSparkles series? And the Tana series? And now the Dani series? He'll make a big deal about onion and say "theres so much dirt! Ill make a whole series!" release two vids and get bored and jump to the next scandal, onion would take waaaaaaay too much time and effort to do a proper series and>onion is NOT a beauty channel>Kuckian doesn't even do "research" he just goes on GG and YTT to get screenshots and thats it. It would take him way too much effort to go through every onion girl, turtlegate, VEGAN BODY, im a feminist now, atheistm >, rape is ok if youre married, i have my own religion guys!!, etc and would take him a lot of videos to get through it. And again, he wouldnt do them properly because he just jumps to whatever is trendy at the time and focuses on that till the next new thing happens.
I can't believe theyre so many people thinking he would actually do this, tumblr for sure is here
I LOVE THAT HE TOTALLY EDITS OUT THE CAPS SO YOU CAN'T SEE ALL THE BULLSHIT HE SAID TO HER.
Or that he totally didn't acknowledge milk anon at all, because then he'd have to admit he was actively looking for a new gf
Hmm yeah thats a bit tricky. I agree but we need to find someone who isnt going to put up with his shit and side with him. A lot of these people who have been mentioned seem to be pretty misogynistic and will just make out its his ~jealous haters~ starting shit.
What about that vegan drama guy? I wonder if he would cover something like this.
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Fucking coward needs to be exposed now.
Actively looking for two
new gfs, and in a similar timeframe. I wonder how many others there are.
I'm tempted to link >>324857
in the comment section so people can see the whole truth without greasy's cherry picking. But I feel it might be against Luxy's wishes as she wants to distance herself now.
Is milk-anon still here? Is there anyway to link your screenshots as support that he's lying about luxy?
what a fucking piece of shit, he completely edits out his gross messages to her and then puts her @ name to send his insane fans to go attack her. fuck greg and fuck lainey.
and whichever snake is lurking here reporting everything to greg, the fact that you can read about the shitty things he's doing to several girls, including his wife, and still take his side is really pathetic and you're as much of a piece of shit as greg is
That wouldn't be a good idea, but something needs to be done. Like >>324915
said, he invited his fans after her. If it is Clone, she has major issues to keep supporting such vile people. Get your priorities straight, Clone. You think asking Greg about it is going to make him come clean? I know you're practically a child, but grow up. These are not people you want to be associated with. Your mild association (or attempts) will not benefit your future, and it's certainly not benefiting your present.
Lol he cant not talk about it, but he hides it in a unrelated video so no one really understands whats going on.
Hes so predictable. Already said he was going to call her out and say she was a horrible person for revealing private messages WHEN HE DOES THAT ALL THE TIME. But if he does it guys, brutal honesty. If anyone else does it SNAKE!!!!!!
i'd love for idubbbz or h3h3 to make a video on him but i doubt they would since they don't want to give him any more attention and his shit is too messy to make a single video on.
Plus i don't think its the right time yet, even though we do have these screenshots, i'm waiting for the impending storm, and with billie (and sarah) in the same house as those two there will be one very soon. And it'll be messy.
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LOL what a dumb bitch. She is so proud of getting to talk to onion. The real reason she went with him with info. Wants to talk to him and suck his dick.
Also whats with these girls being psych majors or studying psych but wanting to be around this psycho? I hope they dont want to do that as a career since they cant tell what a socipath or abuser looks like when its so fucking obvious.
Lol he only shows the screenshots that makes him look good and is acting nice to her. And emphasizes "brief" acting as if they only ever briefly interacted, when what she was saying was it was brief that he invited her to his house since he cut the screenshot out of context.
And he keeps saying he "apparently said" trying to act like shes making things up.
And I like how he totally avoided the other girls messages she shared of him that were so much more damning.
Just contact every youtuber who does drama/exposed videos you know. Doesn't matter if they will do the video or not.
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those crusty foundation covered lips
Even if someone exposes him, he will twist it around. All he has to say is "I'm being honest. Everything I say is facts" with no proof and his fans gobble it up regardless of what hes done.
And the fact Lainey sticks by him makes people think what he did isnt so bad, because a rational person would leave someone who was mean to them. They dont understand how abuse works and still think they are #goals.
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She was trying to be Luxy's friend when she thought Greg and Lainey played her
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Oh boy. He's not done. It's coming soon. Time for the twisting of truth.
Good thing luxymoo didn't give personal info
Also those screenshots werent even made public by luxy. It was the other milk anon who leaked them, but hes going after her because the other girl would be more damning since she wasnt even talking to lainey and he was courting her as lainey and his next gf HA HA HA.
He might make another speaks video about it see >>324949
because he has to paint himself as a saint.
Thanks admin for deleting >>324960
Could please delete these also? They kinda give it away as well. I hope no one in the casa of grease saw it.>>324965>>324956
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What a turd. He released convos about billie and now hes back to dating her. Shut the fuck up. And he wants to act like luxy was never lainey's friend or cared about her because she dared to talk about him with someone else. She didnt even release the convos publicly. The other anon did.
But… she wasn't faking being their friend, she's made dozens of posts that prove otherwise.
THEY dumped her as a friend as soon as she said she didn't want to get greasy with him.
She wasn't friends with you, Gerg. She was friends with your wife.
She didn't even talk anything that bad about lainey, she talked bad about you, fucking narcissist
Hes going to make a video explaining the "facts" and say he foolishly trusted her and thought she would make lainey happy but in the end she was never laineys friend or cared about lainey, and quote things out of context. And say he only talked to her briefly and then WE dumped her because we realized she was garbage. And his fans will gobble it up. and go WHERES THE PROOF ANYTHING ONION THE GOD SAID WASNT ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
And a few days later he will make sure to make a video with lainey dismissing all the haters and saying lainey agrees with him about everything and she will sit there and go im so shy. yes gerg u are right we are perfect.
Hey, Luxy. I know I'm late to this party but I hope you still get the chance to read this. It applies to everyone on this dramaboat though, not just you.
I know this has already been said, but I'll say it again - you did nothing wrong. It's normal, healthy, and YOUR RIGHT to set boundaries. It's perfectly fine to change your mind, especially as politely as you did. Greg isn't entitled to sex with you just because you find Lainey attractive. While you did "hurt him," you only did so in the context of his personality disorder. Not getting what he wants, when he wants it, in any context is going to "hurt him." He's ill, and you're not a shitty person for not catering to that illness. His urgency to get another woman (i.e. Billie) back into his relationship with Lainey doesn't say a damn thing about you, except that you were smart enough to look at the red flags waving right in front of you. You were used, and I'd be fucking pissed off about that too. I'm sorry this has become more public than you ever wanted it to be - that's what happens in relationships with narcissists. They drag you through the mud to spare themselves.
Luxy didn't even know Greg long, and he's already made her second guess and feel ashamed of herself…for acting appropriately. THIS IS WHAT NARCISSISTS DO, PEOPLE! Greg is cluster B as fuck, and when normal healthy people approach a narcissistic sociopath or someone with any other major cluster B problem, they don't go into the conversation thinking they're about to be manipulated. Someone like Greg can have an impact on someone in that short of a time frame. Hopefully Luxy has seen enough of the light by now to not beat herself up like Greg wants her to, but imagine the shit Lainey and Billie have been through, and are STILL going through.
This is why I don't fault Lainey or Billie for the fucked up shit they do/have done. Because they're both in a manipulative, fucked up relationship full of gaslighting, blackmail, and general emotional abuse. If Greg's enough of a control freak to snatch Lainey's social media away from them, just imagine what else he does. What little things they endure on a day to day basis. For YEARS. Narcissistic abuse changes people. I'm genuinely scared for Lainey, Billie, and most of all the children. I grew up with a parent like Greg, and it's taken me over 30 years to actually trust my decisions and like myself for who I am. Abuse like this isn't always strictly emotional/verbal either. When you contradict a narcissist's narrative enough times, they can lash out physically. And then make a compelling case that it never happened. This kind of situation, one that involves multiple young adults AND children, it's absolutely terrifying.
Luxy, Milk-Chan, I am so glad you didn't get reeled in. Thanks so much for providing the evidence you have. Unless Greg does something very illegal and fails to cover it up (unlikely) the kids are there to stay. But at the very least, maybe other young women will be aware of the disaster they're being invited to partake in. FFS, I hope Lainey leaves with those kids before it's too late. With the years of abuse that have already happened though, that will take some real doing. They NEED a real, normal, supportive friend. I really think that's what this whole girlfriend business is about, in its entirety. Lainey needs emotional support, finds a way Greg might let them have that, but Greg turns it into a sex harem situation and Lainey's stuck with nobody to vent to but Twitter.
This is all so textbook. Every time I think about what Lainey's day to day life must be like I want to cry.
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He is such a little weasel. She doesn't want anything to do with his stupid fucking dramu and here he is dragging her into it, siccing his braindead fans on her. Dishonest fucking turnip looking baby dicked pedo. I hope she privates her social medias for awhile until it all blows over. Luckily the fans have limited brain cells so they'll probably forget about this in a few weeks.
Also why does his voice change every video? Does he not know what persona he wants to have by now?
I REALLY HATE THIS DUDE! IT'S STRESSING ME TF OUT LMAO. I always knew he was fucked back when he was dating Shiloh, but I didn't know how deep it went til I started lurking here a few months ago.
Fuck whoever was lurking here, saw all the info, all the shit he's been doing, and STILL sided with him. A+++++ morals bro
I have no sympathy for Taylor at all. I think she's every bit the narcissistic abuser Onion is. Billie is incredibly immature and I don't feel bad for her either. She needs to grow up. I feel bad for Sarah because she's an actual child and I of course feel bad for the child(ren) of the Onion marriage.
People looked out for Taylor and tried to help her. She knows what people think of Onion and she knows what people think of her and yet she still sticks around, talking to teenage girls and letting Onion convince them to "visit".
She gets no pussy pass from me.
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Fuck off Greg.
Love how he inserts Luxy randomly in the video. I can see him lurking here and turning all red in the face, mad because things didn't go according to his keikaku this time.
Luxy if you are still here, don't even worry about this living pimple. You didn't do anything wrong, he's disgusting and needs to be exposed. Every person with a functioning brain can tell that in this situation you were the bigger person. Always stand up against people like him (or Lamo), they deserve it.
Also, since Gurgles lurks here: this is not going to last, you fucktard. Think of how your life is going to be in ten years or less. You're going to be miserable, lonely because nobody will want to be with you, not even your desperate 13 y.o. fans. No friends, probably no wife either, and your kids will want to take more distance as possible from their idiotic father who spent their whole childhood neglecting them to thirst and drool after teenagers. You're a creep and a horrible person and I hope one day you'll give the authorities the right chance to dump your sorry ass in jail. You probably even have CP on your hd. Creep
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>>325008>"Return to a cuck far far away" is cut out
Tell us more about how this doesn't bother you, Greg.
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this is all so infuriating. this dude needs major psychological help. i desperately hope someone with a decent following will make a well informed video on him. it would be ideal if multiple youtubers jumped on the bandwagon. there's gotta be something someone can do to push him off youtube, or at least reduce his fanbase a good amount. this prick deserves to suffer and take a good hard look at himself for once in his life. he's the worst kind of person.
sage for rage
Lainey met Onion at 17. 17 is still a child. He picks people around that age for a reason. Same with Billie - she's immature but within normal limits of maturity for her age. If Greg picked someone mature, he wouldn't get what he wanted from them, which is complete obedience. Even at 19, Billie threw a major wrench into his plans by refusing to brand herself and cut ties with her best friend, lol.
Lainey DOES need to grow up, but they were never given the chance to. Seriously, the narcissistic abuse started at age 17. This 100% warrants a pass from me.
By the way, adopting a narcissistic persona is a common coping mechanism for someone suffering from narcissistic abuse. It's the option that affords Lainey the most safety and freedom. If they didn't go along with what Greg wanted, there would be massive fallout. So of course, the women they talk to on Twitter are given to Greg for the manipulative spiel. The alternative is probably worse than you can even imagine. :c
She can have sympathy when she ditches Gunk. Until then she's enabling him to pull shit like this, and is therefore just as bad.
C'mon, kid, get a hold of daddy lawyer and haul ass out of there. You don't fucking need this scumcock.
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I need a Dorian Gray style portrait of Gunk's decrepit, twisted, hollow self. I would put it on the internet and make it a meme.
I want the Ghost of Christmas Future to visit Lainey soon, hopefully spurring her to GTFO with the kids.
What's fucked is that he's probably not even average intelligence, he's just found a method of manipulation that works and stuck to it. As far as narcissistic possibly-sociopaths go, he's fantastically mediocre, just with a lot of opportunity to be toxic.
sage for emo blogpost
Eh. Lainey is 22 now. She cant be treated like shes still a 17 year old. You can sympathize with her a little bit, but shes a mother of two. If her children get hurt because she wants to placate her husband, will you feel sorry for her then? If other girls get hurt because she wants to placate her husband its not her fault at all even when she brings them into it?
She cant blame her parents or abusive ex or abusive onion for all her problems and the reason she is the way she is forever. She has to take responsibility. She is not alone. She has many people who would support her, her family would help her out. She is not as isolated as some people in abusive relationships who have no financial means of leaving. She just finished her bachelors degree. She could easily find a job with it. She has a online following she could easily make money doing her own youtube channel or whatever. And onion isnt at the popularity he once was with skye and shiloh where he can turn everyone against her. Really only his hardcore fans will attack her and they are 12.
No one is doing her any favors by playing into her doormat attitude. She is not a doormat. She is choosing to be and accepts it because the alternative would mean she has to accept responsibility and realize she wasted time on someone who is horrible. It would mean having to go back home and find herself again. She would have to admit onion wasnt her "soulmate" after all. These are not impossible things. These are things she is capable of doing and these wont end her. She will feel horribly sad forawhile and then move on. Its like the billie break up. Onion makes it seem like taking time feeling upset about someone means you need them back in your life. NO. It's normal to grieve the loss of someone in your life, but it doesn't mean they should come back.
The "alternatives" are not worse than the reality that is happening now. She feels miserable all the time with onion and has no self esteem. The "alternative" would be her leaving and finding herself and finding someone who can actually love her and she can actually love without manipulation and games and being forced to put everything in the limelight.
oh shit sorry i didn't scroll up enough to see it was posted and just checked twitter
I totally get where you are coming from and respect that you are trying to empathize with what is typically the victim, however I must disagree. There is one factor that makes me feel her actions are inexcusable and do not warrant any sympathy at this point.
She has had LOADS of people try to help her. Help her get away, give her a place to stay, help her get back on her feet so she can get out of this situation with the kids, hell even people just offering to talk and be there for her. And what did she do? She mocked them. She made fun of people for caring, both in that video game video and also on twitter iirc. She had support during cuddlegate 1.0 AND after threw her hissy fits on twitter/tumblr and had the gall to essentially say "lul you guyz care too much it's none of your business."
I'm sorry, but there is a limit to how long someone gets a pass. Unless she is actually on the spectrum, it's clear that she is staying with him for two reasons: pride and convenience. She chooses to do this and thus enable everything that is happening.
Sorry for blogging. I used to feel the same way about her up until she scoffed at people for caring in that video. Now it's pretty clear she is choosing to do this not because she has no other options to cope, but for pride and convenience. And it makes me mad because now even more teens who are easily manipulated are getting hurt because of her. There is absolutely nothing okay about what they are doing and she is as responsible as he is at this point.
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From Lainey's tumblr. She doesn't learn.
To you - >>325046
what this anon said.
What scares me about this though, is that's basically what Shiloh did. When people who are being abused by a narcissist get angry, they're often painted as the mentally unstable one. Narcissists are better at painting someone as crazy than a blockbuster director.>>325053
I understand this point of view. But I also understand the amount of control Greg has. The people who have tried to help her have been painted as jealous haters, people that don't understand "true love," and trolls.
She has children, no income, no friends, and limited contact with her family (Greg would prefer no contact and he's been clear about that). She decided to have children with Greg at SEVENTEEN. She's never been allowed any autonomy. She's never lived on her own or even had a job. She went from Mom and Dad's house, straight to Greg's.
Her family has made it clear that they will be there for her. They care about her.
And LOTS of people offered her help. She refused them, over and over again, and even laughed at them. She has had every opportunity to leave.
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more milk incoming?
She has friends (selena is one of the more mature one), she has family (her dad even wanted to help her get out of a prenup when she was considering divorce, her mom would always visit her or she'd visit them, she has a relationship with her sister. if she came back to them she would not be thrown out regardless of what she did.) She has money (her parents arent poor. They will help her. She just finished a bachelors degree. She has education to get a job. She also has a youtube following she could make money off of). She. is. not. helpless.
Don't perpetuate that myth. Thats what she believes about herself but it is absolutely not true. She is something without him and she can easily get out of the situation. She just needs the mentality to do it.
Comparing her situation schizophrenia does nothing, they are entirely separate issues.>>325060
I'll just say this: many women have been able to get out of relationships just as bad as hers with a fraction of the help she was offered. She is staying with him because of pride and convenience, you can't tell me otherwise.
Just because Onion has bashed her family and keeps them away does not mean they wont take her back if she leaves. Her sister still talked to her even when onion bashed her, her dad still tried to help her out even after the shit onion has spewed.>>325074
Yes and the way you get someone to not feel helpless is by empowering them, not agreeing that they are helpless. You are just saying she will be fucked if she tries to leave which is absolutely not true. I know what learned helplessness is and if lainey took psychology she has learned the term. The point is she needs to notice all the ways that she will be PERFECTLY FINE without onion.
I'm excusing her because she's currently powerless to stop it. She needs support, and Greg knows that support will grant her power he doesn't want her to have.
I lack a lot of the terminology to explain some of this, but I'll look for a decent link explaining it. I've been in her situation. I'm a survivor of narcissistic abuse. So no, I'm not a psych, but I know what I fucking see, and I'm calling it what it is. I know how all this FEELS and how powerless someone can be when they're in the thick of it. That's why I'm excusing her. She really REALLY needs help to leave. Greg cannot be helped.>>325077
Blah blah blog post, me too, who cares.
Lainey is not powerless to stop it. Not in any way. Not saying it wouldn't be difficult or whatever, but saying she's powerless is just plain incorrect and frankly a bit stupid.
Holy shit anon. She. is. not. powerless. She has a lot of power to change her situation. >>325077
It is not harmful to tell someone they have avenues to get out of the situation they dont want to be in and that they have support from people. What are you even talking about. Onion isnt going to murder her if she leaves. He is not a physical abuser. He is a mental/emotional abuser. Stop acting like she will die if she tries to leave. Not all abusive situations are the same thing.
I had a feeling it was because of something personal.
To you and everyone else who thinks her behavior is okay, just because YOU have been in an "abusive relationship" does not mean she should be excused for her actions or given a pass. It's ridiculous to relate her to you, it is an entirely different situation.
Same anon from these two posts.
Yes, she has power to change her situation. And yes, Greg has beaten her down to the point where she doesn't see it.
These two links are pretty good:http://www.elephantjournal.com/2015/10/understanding-the-language-of-narcissistic-abuse/https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/romance-redux/201507/why-it-s-hard-leave-narcissists>>325091
The issue is that Greg controls what support she does and doesn't receive. A narcissist will belittle and berate anyone whose point of view doesn't match their narrative. The psychological state that someone is in after years of that kind of abuse is empty, cold, and sad. Lainey's very isolated despite her presence on social media, and that's by design.
Maybe her private twitter will offer her some real support, if Greg doesn't manage that too. I doubt she has the words for what's happening to her, because if she did, it would be easier to leave.
Narcissistic abuse is confusing and dehumanizing. If her mental state ALLOWED her to just leave, she would have. Again, she's been with a narcissistic abuser since she was seventeen.>>325093
It's not okay. And even if Lainey agrees it's not okay, she'll keep doing it if that's what Greg wants. Making waves in any way will make her life even more unmanageable.
We've had newfags invading the board since we got cross-posted to EO and even Greasestain.
The influx of Lainey-sympathizers have most likely come from the anti-o blogs, they're full of them.
I already know about narcissism thanks. I get that she doesn't see it. I'm saying she needs to see it in order to change her situation. Is it an easy thing to do? No, but it is possible.>>325103
She is capable of changing things where is right now. I never said i have no sympathy or passes for her LOL wtf I even said you can sympathize with her situation but it doesnt mean she is helpless.
If onion can tweet in ways that sound as pathetic and drippy as Lainey then I commend him for being so talented. It's pretty clear her tweets are her own.>>325102>>It's not okay. And even if Lainey agrees it's not okay, she'll keep doing it if that's what Greg wants. Making waves in any way will make her life even more unmanageable.
There is a difference between "making waves" and just not fucking around around with people on her own accord? She gets off on being a tease and on attention. She has been luring in teenagers for a long time now and her AND greg are hurting them emotionally at the very least.
She is 100% percent responsible for her actions. You can't get through life blaming things on everyone else.
She absolutely can leave. Lainey and Onion are far removed from the worst narcissistic relationships I've ever seen.
She has friends and family who care about her.
She doesn't deserve sympathy because she has every resource that she needs available to her and she doesn't use any of them to get away.
Instead she focusses her time on trying to lure young girls into her home. Because THAT'S what she cares about. She an abuser too. She treated those girls like objects and didn't care one iota for their feelings. She's a narc, just like him.
and stop fighting over whether you support lainey or not, you guys are shitting up the thread.
if you wanna argue then argue about grease, he's the main asshole who's getting away with fucking over several girls.
For real. Some people in abusive relationships are in so much worse situations where they can literally be killed if they try to leave and really have no support or anyone in their life, have no education or financial means. And those are much harder to get out of, but still possible and people have done it. So to say lainey is incapable of leaving is stupid. No one said it was easy to leave an abusive relationship but if lainey did, she would have support leaving. Don't act like she has no support.
Whether people on this messageboard want to sympathize with her or not is their own choice. Most people here have sympathized with her in the past and are just fed up with her letting gerg get away with things and hurting others.
This so hard.
Believe you/me I've tried my darned hardest to do the same thing in the past, it's draining and they just point-blank refuse to listen; regardless of any proof you have to back up your claims.
If Grease tells them he's the most honest person in the whole wide world, they will believe him, no ifs or buts about it.
You know, what Luxy said about how she got pulled into Greg's orbit despite knowing there were people saying he's an abusive monster - that she "wanted to find out for herself" - is exactly
what Hamburg Jasmin, Margo Palermo's former biggest stan, said when we asked her why she ignored every bit of proof of Margo's cruel behavior.
We have to remember that all these teenaged stans think they're "thinking for themselves" when they believe what Greg says over screenshots and survivor stories. Not quite sure how to get around it, but it's a common thread and that's a start point.
whys he trying to act tough?
Pretends not to know how to use tumblr messenger. Has 99+ messages sitting in tumblr messenger.
Shows screencap of him "disabling" messenger, which is not disabled messenger? LMAO. It just says click it to not allow people who dont follow you to message you.
Also how can you say its playing someone for deciding you dont want to be with them? You are allowed to change your fucking mind about having a relationship with someone.
luxy if you're reading this don't take anything he says to heart, heck don't even watch the video its all bullshit and lies. he's mad he got caught and outed for his gross behavior.
and greg since you're reading this too, fuck you.
He literally didnt have to address it. His fans dont lurk lolcow. He saw money potential.>>325160
Yeah he ignored her block of text explaining the whole situation. Turd.
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Moved on so hard he only made two buttmad videos in under 5 hours about it, and sent his fans to attack a woman who rejected him. So moved on.https://vid.me/0UcC
"OMG screenshots aren't enough proof show your real face so i can send ppl to attack you and say that reality itself is a lie when you film it."
heres a summary:
basically speaks about how hes always brutally honest- using video footage of him opening the email sent by skye and the screenshots inside of it just to prove how honest he is. says theres a reason people call him the most brutally honest youtuber, "because i fucking am". then proceeds to discuss how people are telling him to go to lolcow to speak about the screencaps here because he is "not a fan of snakes or people that try to take advantage of my wife" basically goes over a majority of the screencaps in this thread- ignoring luxy's explanation as to what happened or anything else in the thread, really. he constantly parrots how luxy played lainey by changing her mind about the 3-way relationship. how she messed with them, etc. he denies ever talking to milkchan, saying he has no clue as to who she is, and the screenshots are false/luxy was foolish to believe them and expose personal things about himself as well as luxy. basically blabbers on proving his honesty, how luxy played him and his wife, and how none of the screenshots can be proven as real unless their is video footage proving it (he even goes as far as showing an example of him photoshopping a screencap so we can truly see how easy it is! whoa thanks greg! you're so honest!) denies inviting anybody else but luxy to come see them, agrees that luxy was a distraction because thats what people do when they're fresh out of a relationship/ when people try to jump in the spot (aka luxy jumping into billies spot)…gives us the definition of harassing claiming he never harassed luxy for 3 days because she replied, so therefore it wasn't harassment! (LOL OK) pretends to not know how to use tumblr messaging system….continues calling luxy out…claims his wifes interest is his main priority… lol! denies asking for nudes, that he can go to pornhub, says nobody has a chance to be a genuine friend to lainey anymore as people keep releasing things because she is more famous than us! says luxymoo was tricked and lied to by people spreading false info about himself and lainey.. then ends the video by saying he is honest and how luxy was suckered into a manipulation tactic by believing people.
sorry.. hope that covered it all!
v interesting making a (transparent) effort to look like he's not lurking. I can smell calculated bullshit a mile away tho.
We're not dumb greg.
I like how he pretends to be technologically illiterate when it benefits him. Like oh lolcow there is no way i could have browsed it enough to hit that big link at the top that links directly to luxy's post. Oh tumblr messenger? I dont even know what that is.
But let me spend time showing you i can edit texts so easily.
"People want me to go to el-oh-el-cow and see the screencaps there"
First, you're here all the time, and second, you are as dumb as Kiki if you think that's how it's pronounced. Are you trying to pretend you don't know what this place is, that if you sound like a moron people with believe you have no idea how to manipulate people?
His veneer is cracking - his voice is different, he's not laughing, this is the closest he's come to showing his true face on YT I think. He's too panicked to be smug.
I'm gonna have to ask you guys again to stay on topic. Some posts like>>325175>>325176
are borderline blogposting. Every single thread has dealt with this topic so far and each side has voiced plenty of arguments. Please stop.
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Oh, he likes our fan art ?
Well heres one for you Bunion …
Ps, dunno if its just me but Lainey reminds me of the girl from the movie Hard Candy ( visually )
-Knows how to edit videos
-Has been on social media for 10+ years
sure you don't know how to use tumblr messager or image boards grug.
So does Billie not care at all that they were propositioning other girls to take her place just two days before she came back? No? Oh okay. Totally love. It's love guys.>>325194
She was talking to lainey and he messaged her telling her to be serious about lainey or not talk to her and she said she was. Then later he messages her bringing up the threesome idea. She was never talking to lainey to get gerg as much as he believes that the only reason teen girls talk to lainey is to also get his dick
She was probably approached the same way Luxymoo was with a proposition of being "lainey's girlfriend" that HAS to sleep with him.
She's probably been in on the whole drama since the start and knew what was expected of her, she went ahead with it anyway even when Lainey continuously has jealousy issues and second thoughts about it all on a regular basis.
Her and Lainey probably feel they're bounded by some kind of contract through his words and ultimatums alone, plus they never have to put in any effort in their lives other than fucking him, he'll pay their way otherwise.
There are 3 of Greg's victims total who were here last night:
MilkAnon - who was flirting with greg before she wised up, and was the first to publish convos between herself and Luxy, and herself and greg
LuxyMoo - started flirting with and fell for Lainey via twitter (Luxy only contacted Lainey), but then greg butt in out of nowhere and demanded that she show how "serious" she was about Lainey by fucking him. She gave an extended interview last night and was verified by the admin.
LaineyAnon (TaylorAnon), who posted a convo between herself and Taylor and said she had an identical experience to Luxy, where she was into Taylor but as soon as she wasn't interested in sexing Greg, she got blocked and ignored.
Lainey has said more than once that she has never had sex with Billie, and they've done "something sexual" like just kiss less than 5 times.
Lainey sexes greg and greg wants her to sex girls but so far it doesn't seem to be happening unless Greg literally string arms her into it. Yay marital rape!
What are the chances that milk anon could have faked the screencaps so quickly to tell luxymoo that onion also called her a good person?
I think onion is lying and milkanon everything is too coincidental for her not to be legit
All 3 are real. Please check the whole thread for the screencaps taken by MilkAnon; how would she have gotten them if sh had no already spoken to Greg? How would she know to create the same lies and lines that Greg used on Luxy?
Let's not give Greg's narrative of made up people and faked screenshots a moment of consideration, it's blatant nonsense and he's running scared.
quite obviously Greg
sure, lainey isn't honest and she's proved herself to be a huge snake, but she's said that she hasn't been sexually active with Billie multiple times and was even uncomfortable blowing greg whilst Billie sat on his face.
so according to greg…
luxy being a distraction for him and lainey: okay and cool, not playing with someone's feelings at all
luxy being indecisive about taking a plane to someone's house to get fucked by 2 people with a long history of drama: NOT COOL, snake and a liar
there are screenshots of Lainey saying that and in the we broke up video, Greg said exactly that, iirc.
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a wild grease appears on to catch a predator.
i'm loving this anon <3
I thought it ended after one of the exposed guys hung himself, could be wrong though.
But yeah, I'm all for some skilled anon doing this, it'd be fucking hilarious.
Basically, if you've followed Gergles since early years you know that who he is now is exactly the person he claimed not to be. There's so
much shit he claimed he'd never do that he ended up doing that it's hilarious.
He's not "most brutally honest Yter", he's the biggest hypocrite.
Might as well start eating meat on cam and chugging down booze and the circle will be complete.
Okay rewatched the video and as far as i saw he skipped these pictures. >>324376>>324377
>>324379 and the top of this >>324389
Guessing it was on purpose cause he showed everything else.
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his voice is now much deeper
he dropped the leafy voice
he is lurking like a muthafucka
he knows he has been caught
I sure hope that's the case!
There was also one pretty good comment with 30 thumbs up that also seems to be now deleted.
VivicaDoolittle was talking about that sperg-y anon from EO being called a fag and she's trying to explain it to everyone else.
And only one person said something about Stevie being a bad mom in this thread (idk about the other thread) and they got told off, so idk why Stevie is getting her jimmies rustled.
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For a one day ban.
I want to say all of it.
Lainey is apparently non-binary but doesn't correct her husband when he uses She/Her pronouns or when he calls her a woman or a girl?
I'm pretty sure Lainey's just there to queerbait fans, especially with the girlfriend thing.
Noone gives a fuck about Stevie here, that's why she's throwing a tantrum about it.>>325295
I wish you'd keep her banned, she's only going to continue shitting up the thread and make everything about herself… she's not going to get along with the majority of anons here.
Yeah, I was going to say that too. That person was a harmless newfag, who clearly didn't understand how lolcow worked (they know now though lol)
Even though they were annoying, I kind of pity them. Not everyone knows forum terms and even last night people on EO were trying to tell them that they freaked out over nothing.>>325302>she's not going to get along with the majority of anons here.
eh, I wouldn't say that. I had to learn when I first came here, so I wouldn't say it's impossible to lrn2lolcow but if they do come back and start shit, they should receive another banhammer from the farmhands.
I get being okay with the people close to you using your birth pronouns
but being okay with heavily gendered terms like "wife" and being called a "woman"?
Yeah no she's queerbaiting for him>>325306
>LuxyMoo has more respect for Lainey than Greg does and it's fucking sad.THISSS
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(five bucks says Stevie submitted that anon ask herself)
forgot to sage
i do enjoy some extra milk with my main milk
Of course it's not shame. What's that thing about most liars? They hate being seen as liars.
I can't count how many times Gergles repeated "I'm an honest person" or "whatever you say about me, let it not be that I'm a liar" in his videos.
IMO, his two biggest fears are everyone seeing him for the lying bullshitter that he is and of course ageing.
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ik i said i'd post more screens today…… this isnt much but im not home……& i saw gregs video so ig ill make my proof video tomorrow when im not using my data to post…. posting again bc forgot to censor my blog lol
>An early Christmas gift to myself and my wife
So he's equating you to an object for himself and his wife to own?
thank you for coming back.
So far, Greg's only rebuttal is that you're anon so you're obviously making it up, so I can't wait to see his face when you post your video. Best of luck!
Tiny part of me is hoping this is fake, because it's so cringe-worthy. "Early Christmas gift to myself and my wife".
What the absolute shit!? Like, what the actual fuck, who says shit like this?
The other part of me appreciates you posting this, so keep 'em coming.
and you never spoke to Lainey?
Not even once?
Jesus, anon…I'm so sorry you had to put up with this creep.
Hey babe, welcome back!
Oniondick is freaking out on YouTube pretending you faked all the screenshots and is challenging you to prove him wrong by recording you clicking on his tumblr name in your messages and showing it redirects to his blog. You could easily do it while remaining anonymous still, upload it to vimeo and link it here and we would have your back. Are you down?
I didn't watch the video because fuck Greg but was the proof his idea? As in, did he say >prove him wrong by recording you clicking on his tumblr name in your messages and showing it redirects to his blog
because we know how he likes to dictate the terms of what constitutes 'proof', I feel like it's a trap. Is there any other way to prove it?
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ik no one believes him but just wanna poke holes quick in his theory……..u can see in the screens that i sent my screencaps before luxy sent hers……. so this doesnt even make sense?? idk but i cant wait to put him on blast tomorrow lol
I feel like when it happens, he'll still decide it isn't enough and demand something more ridiculous.
"Post your Tumblr password if it's true!"
She can upload it someplace else, not YT.>>325371
Pretty much doesn't matter what he decides - that quite literally is enough to prove it's real.
If she uploads to Youtube, remember that Greg has a penchant for reporting videos/getting his fans to report videos about him that he doesn't like.
Be prepared to mirror and reupload the shit out of the video, if Milk Anon posts it on Youtube
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Well Gargle looks a bit like the Grinch anyway.
A dermatologist is going to have a hard time fixing subtype 1 as it's the most resilient to treatment and a life long condition.
There are soooo many other valid reasons to hate Gergles - tearing him down for an illness should be at the bottom.
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why the fuck did this person mention lolcow in the comments. if you read this: delete it.
Yes, he mentions it but pronounces it wrong. His fans probably don't have the best attention span. Spelling it out in the comment section is driving unnecessary attention to this site. We don't need Onion Stans here. >>325450
Don't worry about that, I'm sure a lot of anons and myself included are going to spam everywhere humanly possible.
I just hope she indeed is legit.
I deleted it.
Hopefully he isn't here right now.
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Please can anyone shoop a Grinch poster and write 'How The Gerg Wanted An Early Christmas Gift' on it? Thank you.
Same. I really felt sorry for the anon who actually ended up calling the police.
There's also this "Why would Gergles casually call them out of a proof video" - which is indeed very easy to make, if he's lying? Dunno. Just hope this one turns out legit.
Thats my thought process too, even if milky is a troll she got people to come forward and outted Greg on his shit… again.
Although Greg was clearly SHOOK in his video today.
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just reposting this because the anon who posted it already deleted it (greg himself?)
just a reminder to others anons here: Grease is here, lurking and maybe even commenting. Avoid sharing anything he can use to defend himself, especially things discussed in our chat.
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well, people followed hitler, people are gonna follow vomit-face, thats the BRUTALLY HONEST REALITY.
if you're reading this greg, fuck off.
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You mean a fuckbuddy
I posted it the first time. See >>325008
I think someone else posted it and then deleted their post. I totally agree what you are saying though.
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slightly different pic, i tried, etc
this !! <3 next thread, pls.
Honestly… poor grinch. no one deserves to look like onion.
Yeah, but there's this thing where she was attracted to him because "YT fame" and money and it might still be a big part in her obsession. Because he's Onion, a still desirable dude for brainless teens.
In 5, 10 years that's going to change. He won't be able to play the eternal teenager on YT forever - and once that's gone, perhaps her obsession with him is going to rapidly decline as well.
She's replaceable as fuck. If things progressed with this Lexy girl he would have "loved" her too and after her the next one, rinse repeat.
Pretty funny for a dude who in the past claimed he could only really love one person.
as far as i understood yesterday only legit farmers are allowed in lolcow where the serious business was happening, tho others can chat and mingle in general. sorry for not knowing the correct terms, im pretty new to discord.
so yeah, he basically can't.
sorry, Greg. ya can stay here and read our posts about your ugliness though
He probably scouted out a few girls and interrogated how much of their life they would drop to do everything he wants and says and most of them had to go ask their parents first and they said no. He probably told a bunch of girls he loved them to try to convince them to drop everything for him.
Then he found Taylor the Wise. He tells her he is going to marry her before they even meet (what a proposal), gave her the ring the first day they meet in person. He moves to NM while she is in high school to see her (not creepy), then they get married when she turns 18 without her parents knowing and she secretly lives with him. She moves with him after her first semester of college to washington, agrees to take online classes and not rly go to school (he lies they would travel the world lol.) She gets two tattoos with him about their relationship very quickly into it. He probably had to brand her to make sure she proved her love. Oh and then she pops out a baby as a teenager (he probably told her hes infertile and condoms are icky and she believed it). Taylor the wise beat out all them other fangirls by agreeing to all the stupidity and dumb ideas he brought to her and she was once so proud of this.
Most girls would have backed out at some point or their parents would have went what the fuck. Like I was a fangirl when i was young too, but if one of the 30 year old men i was fangirling over was like i will marry you, i would think they were insane.