/shay/ - dolly mattel fan club

First order of business: Shayna is not a pedophile. Discuss.

do i think shay making porn where she roleplays as a child to be creepy? yes but it doesn't necessarily make her a pedo, i don't think she herself is attracted to children. she wants to BE the child victim of a predator though. she is a creep. maybe not a typical pedo creep, but definitely still do not want her to ever be around children.

If pedos could fulfill their pedo fantasies by just watching obese middle-aged looking women with comically huge bonnets sticking dildos in their yeast infected, pimple filled holes, there would be way less of a market for child porn.

I don’t think she or her customers are obligatorily pedophiles, they’re following a beached whale with a necrotic, deflated tit. Her face is grotesque and unlike any little girl I’ve seen. What about that is child-like? The idiot dresses and retarded baby talk?
Can a gay man be attracted to a girl who cuts off her hair as long as she wears ‘men’s clothes’? Can a lesbian be attracted to a moid who ‘talks like a girl’? I hate the idea that people are attracted to her ‘child-likedness’, it just validates her delusions. She’s just a creep and her coomers are average moids who do moid things. But I wouldn’t call it ‘pedophilia’.

Ellen is a pedo, I'm convinced.She added the backstory to getting the pacifer because she felt that made it "hotter". She took an object from an actual child, that childern exclusively use.
Shayna knows this so, she's not a pedo but she'll ignore pedos around her.

>>162127
“Children exclusively use” ever been to a rave?

even though i don't think she is a pedophile by definition at the moment, she does seem like a possible candidate for the female pedophile archetype of the complicit accomplice. she might be the type of idiot woman insecure enough to let a pedo abuse children as long as he stays with her. fupa's ex not wanting him to date someone like shay was completely in the right. let's just hope she is always away from any kind of child care lest a child possibly be hurt. and of course she's carried this bizarre jealousy for anyone who gets her father's attention after the divorce so that's why she has this creepy "teehee i stole ur dad" fetish. two of her love interests, nathan kyle perkins and shane p sonnier had kids. it is likely she has extreme jealousy issues surrounding children. men with kids should stay away from her as she probably can't stand that they would want to spend time with their kids instead of their weird "bimbo baby" gf. she is a basket case but as it stands not a pedo (currently).

>>162117
I think she may not be a pedophile but she has a fetish for pedophiles which is almost as bad. She produces content for them, doesn't call them out etc. she is a pedo enabler. All of this stems from Shayna refusing to grow up and wanting to be spoiled and free of responsibilities like a child. She's probaby jealous of real children.
She reminds me of those women who are into serial killers.

>>162126
i do agree with your post but
>What about that is child-like?
we know ofc shay could NEVER pass as a minor, but i think it's more about the fact that she deliberately chooses things associated with children to make her porn. whether she actually gets off to it, or anything at all, we will never know haha since she always looks dry as hell.
what is genuinely hilarious and maybe a bit more comforting to know is most of her loyal coomers appear to be mentally retarded, like actually mentally handicapped in some way. i wonder if she has put two and two together (the porn genre she creates is literally arousing to actual retards) and how that makes her feel about herself.

>>162127
it's crazy how ellen apparently gets paid to look after children yet still does "sex work". no woman involved in selling sexual services, IRL or online, should ever be involved in child care since they obviously are incapable of making good decisions.

I came here to say the anon that insists that Shayna is a pedo has fatty mean girl vibes and is definitely a twitter whore who smells like ass.

>>162137
>fatty mean girl vibes
>twitter whore who smells like ass
so she is just like shay lol

I've always seen it firstmost as Shayna having an extreme fear of growing up. She can't picture herself as a fully actualized adult. She figured she'd be 27 club dead, or a famous and beloved pop culture icon. Instead she's a fat washed up whore with a rocked up tit, a bunch of debt, and an eagle-eyed swarm of haters that follow her like an unending storm cloud of reality checks. Too ugly to be a bratty princess, too stupid and lazy to be a domme, too delusional to accept her final form as BBW slampig so here we are, with Shayna insisting she's totally a baby googoo gaga pickher and tell her she's special and her ineptitude is charming instead of pathetic

anon who made this thread is a retarded ugly faggot and probably a scrote. kill yourself(alogging)

>>162128
Okay but talk about the part she stole the pacifier and did a photoshoot with her tits in frame, with kink tags? When you think think pacifier you think baby/child.

i just dont agree with her logic. stating you're underaged is just as creepy as acting underaged anyway. it's pretending to be a kid in both scenarios. she even refers to herself as a baby and little girl. to her THOSE creeps are pedos but not her because she just pretends to be a kid and doesn't give a number? so what? she's just as creepy as the people she's speaking of here

>>162141
Kek would you rather anons clog the main thread with the same off-topic infighting about pedophilia for the 9282761745412882134th time?

why would someone sexualize babies, children and teenagers if they don't find babies, children and teenagers sexually attractive? Some of you must have brain damage. It doesn't matter that Shayna is fat and ugly, she's got a baby diaper fetish porn account for fuckssake. She's probably not aroused at the idea of diddling a kid, but she's turned on by the idea of being that kid. It's .00000001% less cancerous because at least theoretically, no children will be harmed, as Shayna "keeps it between consenting adults".

>>162145
>why would someone sexualize babies, children and teenagers if they don't find babies, children and teenagers sexually attractive?
For money. She's a sex "worker", a large portion of her sex life is literally based on transaction, not her own will. And in any case, it's pretty well-established that Shayna has a low-sex drive and isn't into 90% of the shit she does. If you recall, Shat wasn't doing the diaper crap five years ago. Her whole shtick was being like "Barbie", hence the origin of her name Dolly Mattel.

>>162146
She was definitely doing diaper porn when she was skinny, pre fupa. I understand sex workers do sex acts for money, but most of em aren't going to do diaper porn and larp as abused toddlers who's parents drugged their sippy cups. There's a world of difference between some OF who wears a school girl uniform sometimes and the shit Shayna does. I also agree she's basically asexual, but the shit that's always been consistent with her is that she's always done some weird teen bimbo/baby brat larp. She gets off to pretending she's the desired minor being corrupted by a dirty old man. Pedo shit, but she's the "victim".

>>162126
It’s really important to understand that not all pedos are exclusively attracted to children and some of the men who watch this shit and/or exclusively sleep with barely legal girls would really rather be raping children and the only reason they don’t is because they know it’s illegal and they don’t want to get caught.

I’m 5’11 and the first man I ever slept with was arrested in a sting operation while trying to pay to rape preteens. Worse shit was uncovered when his computer was seized as part of the investigation but I don’t want to get into it. Being able to get off to an adult woman doesn’t mean someone isn’t a pedo.

>>162147
>she's the "victim"
That's the point–she wants to be seen as small and vulnerable because it acts as a negation to her actual reality being overweight and "older" (in her eyes/porn years, being 25+). We know she had prejudices against overweight people in the past, and like >>162140 mentioned we know she values a certain tragic célèbre associated with creatives who had died young.
>most of em aren't going to do diaper porn and larp as abused toddlers who's parents drugged their sippy cups.
It's a ploy to get more money, because sex "workers" who fulfill extreme niches can often command a higher price for their "services". She isn't ranked as highly as she was when she was skinnier/more conventionally attractive, so she needs to take a different approach to make the same/similar amount of money (which wasn't ever much to begin with kek)
>>162148
>not all pedos are exclusively attracted to children
True, but the necessary requirement to be a pedo in the first place is having an attraction to children. Shayna has never, as far as I'm aware, indicated any attraction to children. She does creepy and questionable shit–she's a veritable disgrace to her family–but she is not a pedo, as far as we are concerned. Some anons get really deep into the mud by saying that she's attracted to herself as a minor or that she's autopedophilic–but even then it's pretty difficult to prove that this is true for her as we cannot divorce what she does for sexual gratification vs for monetary gain, and any further assessment/attempt to show that her "kinkiness" is born out of true sexual deviancy borders psychoanalysis that only a IRL specialist could more accurately make.

>>162147
And she literally doing that shit with Shane. Like whining because he wasn't playing into the whole situation. When she started coloring and asking him to fucking make her a schedule. Shayna is like troons who get turned on/validation by dressing and badly acting as women. As people seeing them as women, fucking other men who pretend to be women.
Shayna has shown she's into that shit mentally, it's not just for money.
She constantly pushes DDLG in every relationship and thinks she looks underaged

>>162149
She wants to emulate what she views as sexually desirable, a "teen bimbo". She hates women, especially actual attractive ones who are young, but she still fetishizes them. She wanted to get braces to larp as a "teen brat". She posts rape fantasy porn about being young enough to use a sippy cup and not know what she's drinking. She's sexualizing childhood like a pedo does. She's just a different flavor of pedo than what most people as re accustomed too.

Like maybe she's not a pedo, but she for sure I'd into that ddlg lifestyle, that cannot be disproven. She has no issue acting like an literal child for a scrote in a relationship. We saw how with Shane she was genuine upset that he wasn't playing into it.
But I'll keep saying, hwe connection to Ellen let's me know she's at least okay with people who do fucked up things as long as it benefits her.
There's nothing Ellen can say to justify what she did. Even if it's a lie she works with kids and created a child she was working with for this fantasy kink post.

I genuinely believe shayna and definitely Ellen wouldn't do shit if some scrote they loved asked them to use their child's pacifier in kink play or some kind of weird shit. They are willing to go right into the edge for the right people.
Ultra pick mes. I also don't believe Shayna cares if the men into her or her porn may actually have sexual fantasies about kids.

As long as they don't say it outlook. She's okay with implications. She probably really believes no actual pedo/rapists or bad men seek out her type of porn.

Like she said. She has never had an bad experience with a scrote yet. Even if she claimed she was groomed and the police had to get involved
When scrote was sending things to her. She doesn't even seem disturbed that actual pedos seek her out (say you are underaged scrotes). She seemed more focused on shaming the women who play along vs. Shaming the men, and saying, "I wouldn't do that!!! I'm not like them!!'

>>162149
I’m the last anon you responded to and I just want to clarify that I agree with you and don’t think Shayna is a pedo, just an idiot. People who call everyone pedophiles are diluting the meaning of actually being a pedophile.

>>162153
>She's sexualizing childhood like a pedo does
So we both agree that she's a perverted individual, but where we deviate is in the definition of what a pedophile is—as for the actual meaning, a pedophile must have an attraction to children, full-stop. We're not going to stretch the definition of this word to encompass all of the "maybes" and ambiguities of dressing like a fat oversized baby while pandering to sick coomers; she literally needs to be attracted to. a. child. We have never seen her show any attraction toward prepubescent children. She's practically asexual, as most anons agree. Being into ddlg ≠ a pedophile. I'm not saying that they are mutually exclusive, but ddlg alone is not proof that Shay is a pedo. The anons who accuse her of being a pedophile are like the histrionic freaks that also call her a nazi for a stupid joke she made when she was 15 and hasn't done since.

>>162165
i keep trying to explain she's attracted to the idea of being the child. Like, if she was an actual tranny with a diaper fetish account who insists they're "x age going on 13" in their sugar baby bio/sex work Twitter no one would be confused. Shayna also sexualizes minors, DD/LG larp is literally sexualizing minors. Anyone who's comfortable making baby rape fantasy text twts is a pedo, sorry to break it to you. She's too jealous to be attracted to underaged girls, and she won't admit she's not attracted to old man coomers because they pay her. But when she gets older and more desperate, she'll start doing mommy dom shit like the degenerate she is. She already put a grown man in a diaper and performee sex acts on him, while he most likely pretended to be a child. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…

>>162168
None of that makes her an actual pedophile. Yes it’s disgusting and sexualizing the trappings of childhood is really fucked up but she’s not a pedophile. IMO in her mind her tweets are genuinely fantasy and she doesn’t grasp that the only men into her am baby shtick are highly likely to actually want to rape kids.

>>162168
You wrote this entire paragraph trying to list all the reasons that Shay is a pedo except for, mm… being attracted to children.
>She's too jealous to be attracted to underaged girls
Literally just defeated your own argument by saying she's not attracted to underaged girls (and girls? Pretty sure Shatna is straight, Ellen is just a paypig [and, by the way, being "jealous" has nothing to do with a subconscious state like being attracted to someone. Have you ever felt attraction to anyone in real life, anon? Reminds me of that one anon who said Shay was too bad at sex to become pregnant KEK]). Pedophiles are attracted to children, full-stop, and Shay is not (or "too jealous" to be kek). So anyway, thanks for agreeing with me.

I also had a thought, shayna lamps as everything but an adult physically attractive woman

>puppy
>teenager
>baby
Even her bimbo larp is her wearing pink and simply being stupid. For years Shayna has been admitting, "physically I don't think I'm attractive enough to simply be a hot girl, so I have to have a gimic that's based on being everything but "sexy".
I think that's why she's genuinely flattered when she's not in her retard outfits that people notice her.
She probably thinks she's dirt ugly and nobody, unless she's larping or repping her "brand" of bows, pleated skirts, ponytails, pink etc.
While she panders to pedos and I don't think she truly cares if scrotes she meets, could potentially be harmful to kids and seeking her porn out because she "implies" what what like In a legal way, I do not think she's a attracted to kids.
I think she's always had "ugly girl but I have a body I'm willing to show and I'm not afraid to do whatever for attention " personality. Low self worth. Self esteem but at the same time thinks because she dedicates herself to her retarded lifestyle she's "better" and honest.
I think shayna has never stood out as a kid/teen unless she was acting out. I feel hs has a lot to do with why shay is how she is.
She always felt she should be entitled to love,fame and attention, but she never got it unless she made herself the center of attention.
You can tell if she could be pretty and get attention, she'd be a huge mean girl who would hate on sex workers.
She only cares about fat shaming because she's fat now, or conversations about fssw because that's her.
She feels she's a hidden gem, and if acting like a dog, baby or teen gets her that attention then she will do it

Though I genuinely do think she wants to be seen as a baby, simply because a baby is helpless and no matter what someone has to care for it
It doesn't have to be cute, smart or "worth it". She wants a scrote to view her as his responsibility. Someone he has to do these things for.
But she has to make it sexual because even a very pretty woman isn't going to get that, she don't realize that she's not very pretty, and she doesn't add anything bur vagina ro scrotes.
There's no benefits to treating her like a fucking woman child, for sex that's probably not that exciting and that anyone can buy.
I do think shayna would date a pedo. Sorry for the rambling

>>162175
So in your world, underaged males don't exist? Retard.

>>162172
The only people who sexualize children and childhood are pedophiles and their apologists, who are far as I'm concerned, are honorary pedophiles.

>>162182
Except >>162168 didn't say anything about underaged males, retard—hence why it went unaddressed. Don't try to switch up mid-argument. But in any case, when has Shayna ever indicated attraction to underaged males?
>>162183
NTA but if you want to call them honorary pedos, I completely agree—but they're not real pedos and should be distinguished accordingly.

>>162185
She's dipping her toes into mommydom, don't you guys remember that one weird Hispanic moid who she allowed to pee in a diaper in her home? Once she gets older and fatter she's definitely going to lean into that angle more, and all of y'all who think "at least she's not a pedo" are in for a shock.

But sure, she's just an honorary pedo untill she's too old to larp as a child. I guess for me personally, sexualizing childhood with a diaper porn account is enough for someone to be considered a pedophile, but maybe I'm just crazy.

In my opinion, she is an autopedophile which is the case for all the women in her particular porn niche.

>>162210
But here’s the thing: that weird Hispanic moid was still an adult male—and he was a client on top of that, not someone Shat actually wanted to fuck. What are you extrapolating from this interaction to make the argument that she will eventually show herself as a pedophile? She was doing a “job” with another adult individual, being paid to provide a particular “service”. This logic doesn’t make any sense. So far the anons calling her out as a pedo have only mentioned how she interacts with grown adults into ddlg, but none have responded with what ways Shay has actually shown attraction to children.

>>162214

I suppose >>162213 has got it right. She's turned on by pretending to be a child being sexually abused. That ain't kosher, that's some pedo shit. But she's a jealous insecure narcissist so actual little girls repulse her, and it's not part of the kink to like little boys. Once she ages out of her DD/LG shit, she'll most likely lean into mommy dom where she refers to all her johns as naughty little boys who need mommies help with xyz. Pedo, but a different brand than usual.

>>162230
Again, how do we know she's turned on by being [insert here] separate from any money making endeavors? At best this is just a tinfoil.

>>162241
The baby act she's kept up since the beginning of her "career". She always tries to incorporate it into her porn AND her real life. To the point where she'll turn down opportunities because the people offering don't want that mess. Hell, when Shane sat on her back while a robotic dildo plowed her fat ass, she tried to do that age regression baba shit and he wasn't having it either. Tons of plain Jane dumpy bodied white girls are selling pussy pictures for 5 bucks a pop, but most of them don't post toddler rape fantasies and run a diaper account. At best, she's an autopedophile for pay.

My tinfoil theory about Shayna’s coomer fanbase is that they’re into her because she looks so distinctly non childlike while she tries to LARP as underage. Their real fetish is watching a woman degrade and humiliate herself publicly because they have no respect for women. A lot of humiliation fetishes seem to play with this sort of disconnect with reality, like scrotes into humiliation love it when ugly girls think they’re beautiful and encourage them just because that makes it even easier to laugh at and dehumanize them. Shayna being such an unconvincing facsimile of a child or an attractive woman is what draws these sort of misogynists to her. I’m sure a lot of them would be pedophiles too, but the sort of opportunistic pedophile (who commit the most crimes) since they are motivated by feeling more powerful than another and don’t see women or girls as anything other than a sex object, no matter the age.