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The latest alt cows thread, for all the attention seekers, grifters, and other assorted idiots in the alternative community.
Most recent cows:
Orlee Stewart & J.D. Temple
The Niggers of Wessex (Psychara, Felvae, Feigsfar)
The Witchy Goths
Of Herbs and Altars (Dorian)
Avelina de Moray (Megan Blume)
Jake & Kaya (Toxic
…and other cows who are discussed but not necessarily producing significant or frequent milk
>avelina (real name megan) confirms that she and her husband von officially broke up around christmas 2019, so now she is having bipolar manic episodes on insta and was “not goth” for about five minutes until she realized she missed getting free clothes
>orlee and jd also broke up; subsequently have a retarded public meltdown with jd sperging and acting like the trashy meth head he is, snorting “sacred snuff” in livestreams, crying and raging like a bitch, and being trolled by orlee’s new nonbinary partner
>dorian randomly mentions that she has begun therapy, no word on whether or not she told the therapist about her love sessions with her ghost friend, but anons hope she finally gets help
>ruadhan continues to beg relentlessly on reddit and spend his welfare money on shit he doesn’t need, will sing to you at some random hour if you donate money, got banned from r/goth discord for being an autistic fuckhead
>mara is still friends with the nignogs of wessex, but the dogwhistling and racebaiting has significantly calmed down once evidence of their shitty behavior was brought to light; lauren still cannot close her mouth
>mai and annika continue to accuse randos in the witchy goth circle of copying their redundant, unoriginal jewelry while they lick each other’s boots on social media, so of course mara and nina must do the same
>adora’s extreme attention seeking hits a new low when she posts herself in a skimpy cheerleader pedo bait “costume” for “halloween”, gets mad when her “it was just a joke bro” “she was asking for it” reasoning backfires massively, but thank you for understanding whatever it was she was trying to say about rape victims as only god can judge her
>jake and kaya change their mind about moving to spain, so instead kaya gets a new studio to dump all her shit she never wears or uses; they continue to whine about being starving artists whilst receiving THOUSANDS of pounds in simp bucks from their stupid as fuck fans
>freyja continues to do nothing interesting but be a whiny fat bitch online, getting money and asspats from fools; she is still talking about moving to europe once corona is over, using mr owl as a crutch to make people think she is more responsible and ready to settle down, her mother still has rabies, and sadly moon moon passed, so she pretended to care
>reeree quietly comes back out of the blue, then disappears again just as quickly, so another suicide attempt probably occured
>beware of racebait from lost nazis and derailing, overly zealous whiteknights looking to score points with their sacred cow(s)
>no1curr about what is or isn’t goth or who is or isn’t goth, we have this fucking discussion every goddamn thread and it is getting annoying
>farmers are free to use the TT thread at their discretion as it was created to stop the sperging/infighting in the main altcows discussion from the TT spammers.
last thread: >>>/snow/981354
Thanks for making the thread Anon.>>1072061
Elvira had fat in some very specific places, rather than allover.
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She doesn't even look like Elvira. She looks like Froyo with her tits out.
Giving Adora a run for her money in the desperately reaching for attention department.
Wow, a goth girl dressing as Elvira for halloween. What were her other ideas? Morticia? The girl from The Craft? She's so boring, I don't understand how anyone (myself included) ever found her interesting.
And you're right,she doesn't even look like she tried to look like Elvira. How hard is it to get a wig and contour some cheek bones?
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She is already getting some great comments if you sort by newest.
She wore it to upset people and get attention. She just didn't consider how much attention she got. Make no mistake. Adora did this explicitly to stir the pot. It just backfired on her.
The thing is, it's not just about triggers
. She has a lot of teenage girls following her. And it's shitty to tell them that rape is a joke, or that bad stuff that might happen to them is no big deal, just something to make a "silly" costume out of. Teenage boys too for that matter, since rape of men is dismissed and laughed off even more often.
I honestly think that just unfollowing Adora is the best option too. I don't think messaging her about this is useful, because it's not like she'll have some sudden revelation about her behavior and attitude, and turn into a considerate human being who thinks carefully about what she posts. I also think that for the few people sending her hatemail, the vast majority of people who choose to unfollow her will just quietly decide that they've had enough of her shit, she's a sad desperate old hag, and they'll block her.
You don't have to be personally triggered
or even offended to recognize shitty behaviour, and decide you don't want to support it with views or engagement. It's called empathy.
Yes. She'll claim it'll be classy dark erotica.
It won't be.
Some people like to accuse others of being "triggered
." It's an easy way of not actually having to engage with their discomfort, and instead dismiss it. If everyone is "triggered
" it means they're just overly sensitive snowflake led by their feelings and gut reactions. Rather than people who have thought about something and decided it is bad.
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does anyone know if this is true. It's not new but still
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Just watched Kaya's video about her studio, I don't understand why she is spending so much time and money on DIY decorating, getting tradesmen in etc on something she is RENTING, and doesn't even own? It's just throwing her money away!
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Why is Kaya wearing a mask when she is the only person in the studio?
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Fred Flintstone and Wilma in their backyard pretending to be ~spiritual~.
Why is he dressed like a turkey?
And he isn't "taking care of you" Lauren. This "strong, courageous man" is living off his tradwhench so he can devote himself to serving the masterrace fulltime.
It's amazing how little she fets done. That vlog spanned weeks, and she plastered and sanded one wall, painted another, painted a table and a door, and dragged in more old furniture to hoard.
It's kind of impressive how slow she is.
Oh really? I thought she lived in London back when she was younger but I'm probably remembering wrong. I think it's true though what you said that maybe because she doesn't get out much if at all anymore and hasn't for sometime, she started creating this fantasy world and is trying to live it out instead of continue to live in the real world and since her mother enables her, she really doesn't have to snap back to reality anytime soon.
The only thing I can say is that I hope she's not as delusional as that Chris Chan guy with his "Dimensional Merge" crap.>>1073742
I have to echo what >>1073467
said being confused why she's sinking so much money into this studio that she doesn't even own
Oh god, he's so bad! I mean, not just some average guy trying to sing, but genuinly awful. He sounds like Tiny Tim with throat cancer.
Now I understand why every single one of his other songs involves white supremacy. It's a crutch. He is a terrible musician, and I guess it isn't a selective crowd as long as you get the cryptofascism in there.
Did he think that would make him look go9d? It's such a confusing choice to post this.
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Killstar being scummy again
there are a few anons here who seem to have a hateboner for reeree, tinfoil but I wonder if this is one of them? not saying this isn't true though, I have no idea. but I still wouldn't take it seriously.
in the last thread somebody asked if reeree was gone again. I didn't know she ever came back?
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Looks like emily is going to become a piercer or something? Maybe an apprenticeship
That's a terrible fucking idea, unless she's just doing it for fun. Piercers make next to nothing.
Also, I feel like Emily is really boring and it smells like Raven when anons start posting about her again.
I really don't get the hype for Emily. I feel like her claim to fame was being on that Snog, Marry, Avoid episode and that's about it. Ever since she became a YouTuber, I just don't see the hype. She's any other run of the mill fake Goff channel doing haul after haul. Does she actually do anything worth looking into?>>1074512
Eh IBF may be a loon but I don't think she's worth the effort to do a takedown. She's not as active as she used to be and as annoying as she can be, she's not really all that problematic
like say Adora Batbrat is. I just think that it's not the right time to call for her cancellation since she hasn't really done anything yet, at least that I'm aware of.
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Seems she got a hard time sleeping this night…
Agreed about both. Emily is not interesting, IBF is dumb.
Like, we quit discussing cows like Sebastian. Although her art is pretty bad and it's funny she's suddenly going to art school at 25.>>1074634
I'm friends with Victoria's husband on FB. He seems pretty normal. I feel bad that he gets lumped in with these attention whores.
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We are talking about this girl?
Geez it's not even the same person at that point… >>1074802
Eh give her some time, the old her will come back in due time lol.
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Erin finally spilled on Joe. Apparently after Cambodia last year she filed for divorce, and he fought her until it was final in August. She stated he treated her REALLY portly but gave no details. I kinda feel bad for her for once.
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I knew I saved this picture years ago for a reason. Whiny Cantersmamina/Mixi cropped something out.
what am I missing, am I dumb?>>1074936
felt bad for her but it's good she got out of the bad situation.
I gotta say that she looks to be
a completely different person from the one she looks
, you know what I mean? In this video you see an adult woman talking about a serious subject directly, well spoken, no fakeness… But in all of
her photos she styles and poses herself like she's a retarded bimbo who barely realizes what goes on around her. It doesn't help that she dresses in the most weird pseudo punk way, like she is a punk character on Hannah Montanapr something. Even though she's always half naked she looks always so pg13, there isn't anything sexy or dangerous or weird about Erin Micklow even though she tries so
hard. I am fascinated.
What's the deal with her? Where did she come from? Does anyone knows anything about her besides this weird persona online?>>1074618
but she is loving it! that's exactly what she did it for! she must be excited as fuck with all the attention, it has been some time…>>1074585
Yes! And I feel this behaviour is exactly because she's below average intelligence. She always spoke in such a dumb manner, seems to take some time to understand what she herself is trying to say… that or she is 100% stoned all the time. Maybe that's it
Mixi girl been whining Adora taking this picture to get sympathy. Saying how bad Adora is.
Mixi took the picture back then but I guess she could not play victim
being part of the making of it.
She cropped her own name out. that is what's different with original post.
Still silly picture and Adora's sort of "thing", Mixi was in on it and probably made a joke.
For all we know she could have told Adora to sit down and it was a common joke at the time. Not funny joke in my book. But will someone tell this Mixi chick to lay off already? She belongs in a padded room.
kek I have no idea. He just pops up in my feed, occasionally posting Victoria's shoops. And of course all her followers tell him how lucky he is.>>1074936
I'm sure Joe treated her like shit. Punks (especially oi/pogo/street punks) don't have the best relationship track records. But good for her for getting out of it.
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Simon's finally speaking up about the Adora situation.
Oh, how interesting. Yet canters can be seen across Instagram writing in support of Adora's "haters" >>1075451
I completely agree with what Simon said (ho ho) here. People are choosing to see this the worst possible way. If you follow Adora for a long time you'd know her intentions aren't bad. All these cows taking the opportunity to promo themselves look far worse to me.
>>1075296>Punks (especially oi/pogo/street punks) don't have the best relationship track records.
Sage for sperg and blog post but I think that's a bit unfair to say about a whole subculture of people that exist all around the world.
I have known plenty of people in that scene over the years that are great partners, and a fair few who are happily married with kids.
Speaking of dorian, I read this post from someone who thinks they are kinda lying about not being anoexic anymore, at least mentally.https://bitemeblogs.wordpress.com/tag/ofherbsandaltars/
Not this is from a year ago and I only remembered it after seeing her recent video talking about her post ana days. I mean, dorian is known to be a bit of an arrogant cunt, but I cant comment on if shes using pro-ana terms etc.
Wait, you are actually naive enough to believe Adora posted this with good, pure intentions? Rather than her wanting to create edgy controvercy for attwntion and it backfired on her…
What part of dressing up as a rape victim
for halloween is "not bad?" Even if you don't take it as seriously as some other people, it's still a shitty thing to do. It just means you're okay with her doing shitty things, which is your call to make of course. Or maybe I'm confused because you said yoy agree with everything simon said, and he seems to think her intentions are good.
>She's been the same person this whole time.
I absolutely agree with you here. Adora has always been like this. The halloween costume cunnundrum is maybe a bit more on the n9se than some other stuff she's done. But I never understood why people were fawning over her. She lost me after her "how to look anorexic" video years ago.
What is it with Anons thinking the only reason somebody would object to Adora's costume is because of being personally triggered
or offended. I'm not offended. I can just understand why what she did was mean and shitty, and I think going mean, shitty things is bad.
We all know Adora posted it out of edge points, not as some statement about some country she doesn't give a shit about. C'mon, anon. >>1075458
Yeah, sure. I'm just saying the scene attracts a lot of people who abuse drugs and alcohol. And idk if you're part of the d-beat or crust scenes, but a few months ago, a shitload of them were outted as pedophiles and rapists.
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I almost feel bad for her that her own partner doesn't seem to be helping her at all with this. Must be too "busy" making TikTok reaction videos.
Stop blaming "triggers
." Are you unable to read.
And it's only cowtipping if an Anon does it. Rather than thousands of her followers commenting, and even people outside the gothscene making response videos.
But sure. Blame the twelve people on lolcow who disagree with you.
I actually do feel bad for kaya in this regard, I mean they are partners he should help her.>>1076656
Doesnt he already have his own studio? I thought I heard her say in the video he does but I could be mistaken.
Adora goes her own way. Isn't that why people were intrigued by her to begin with? She's bbeen a weirdo from the start. I always thought wiyh a wink.
Coalcandy would know better than anyone of us. He seems like a stand up guy, so I trust his words over mental druggie Cantersmanima any day.
Speaking of Mixi, why has her own sister and parents removed her from their lives?
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Extremely tepid but Kai Decadence, who isn't exactly an angel himself, has commented on the Adora saga.
Coalcandy got most of his initial exposure by being seen to hang around with Adora. So I really don't think he's just a great guy impartially standing up for truth and justice.
As for Mixi, she seems fucking insane. But it's not like she's the only proof of Adora being a bitch.
And she doesn't "go her own way." She goes the way that will get her the most attention.
He really is a great guy, down to earth and super friendly.
To nice for his own good. (His roommate on th other hand…. batshit bitch..)
In other words he's desperate to cling onto his only claim to fame. It's pathetic.>>1075456>>1076720>>1077252
He's a good guy? As if, he's a fame-hungry douche and a few steps away from cow status
We've b3en over this. It wasn't the runes that made him a nazi. It was the nazi quotes and supporting of people who have been convicted of inciting genocide. Can you see the escalation here.>>1077334
No. Mara is who you're thinking of. She's the one who pals around with Lauren and Adam, aka the racist dicks who follow varg. Nymphcreature too, until she started to be too open about it and thry had to drop her to save face. Please know they only dropped her after Anons on this board posted screens of racist shit she'd done years ago. Mara started hanging out with them after she stopped being friends with mai. And mara knows. Somebody cowtipped and called her out. She said she'd handle it privately, but hasn't done shit.
Mai doesn't hang out with them. There seems to be some kind of fued there. Though it doesn't seem to be based on their racist bullshit, but on mai thinking Lauren is "copying her."
There were allegations towards Mai. But I don't think anyone called her a nazi. It was her talking about her "viking blood" which rubbed people the wrong way. Also hanging out with Annika, who has also been accused of racist shit. Some people interpreted one of her halloween costumes as blackface. And she Karened her way into solving a dispute she had with a family of color whom she didn't pay for goods they manufactured to her. She's also complained about punkrave, who sponsored her, being hard to work with because they don't speak a lot of English.
Hope that summary was helpful.
>>1075996>Dorian being called an arrogant cunt
I mean, where's the lie though?>people tryna make up excuses for the biggest cunt Adora
Nah, they are both terrible.>>1076467
Being 3edgy5me is not having a sense of humour>>1076720>Adora goes her own way. Isn't that why people were intrigued by her to begin with? She's bbeen a weirdo from the start.
There's being a wierdo and then there's being an asshole. Shes firmly the latter now. Maybe some time ago she was seen as just being quirky but shes revealed her true colors. And given her privating her insta I think its safe to assume quite a few people have lost their fondness for her too.
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where on earth are you getting £15000 a year from? it says right here on their website it’s not even 2k per year
Plus, if her family were poor, she could probably get some form of subsidy.
Steiner schools are pretty nutty. But not unattainable to people in the UK.
Seriously, look up what Rudolph Steiner actually wrote about. How much of that they apply per school variex. But it is probably not helping Kaya gain adult life skills.
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Elvira, mistress of the large.
Well said anon. Adora has been problematic
for a long time and while it's cool that people are finally calling her out because the latest event is pretty horrible, it's still a little annoying how these people let all the other shit slide.>>1077579>One of them also kisses Drac Maken's ass for "embracing" her Mexican heritage by drawing tortillas on her face and speaking Spanish like Dora kek
Holy crap haven't heard Drac Maken's name in a while, did she really do that? Cringe.
Totally agree anon. >>1077973
Please lets not give them any ideas lol.
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I'm not confusing her with mara
don't know how long you've been following her but as someone who's seen canters pull the same shit ever since she was a teenager, i can safely say it's not just that she hasn't been given help. she has a long, long history with the swedish psychiatric care services and her online posts have always been the same: she is suffering so deeply, she is so fragile, everything is so painful, etc etc ad nauseam. she's a manipulative person whose life consists of leeching on others to have them take care of her, always having an excuse for herself because she's just so sick and frail and anxious and can't help herself. she's the same self-obsessed narcissist as adora, only a different flavor. she's burned a lot of bridges, but she isn't milky the same way adora is.
speaking of which, she's still privated on insta. any anons know if she's active anywhere else right now? if she's hiding, i wonder how long it'll last.
It might be that new dude she's with.
I used to watch her years ago. But I just got bored. She goes through this cycle where she dates a guy, moves in with him super quickly, and quits ger dayjob to just make candles. Then the guy turns out to be a jerk. But she can't move out because she's broke. So she stays with him, and as that relationship ends she starts a new one with another guy, and the cycle continues.
I feel kind of sorry for her. Because the guys really do seem like dicks. But jesus girl, learn. Just keep a job you can live off, and don't become dependent on some guy you just met.
I've watched her on and off for a few years and yeah she is definitely a serial monogamous and you're probably right. she seems really happy with this guy, but she also seemed really happy with mike, her last bf, and that relationship turned out to be really toxic
also, I just started watching the video and I'm confused. first she's saying it didn't really feel like a party, and she's sad not many people showed up etc. then she starts talking about how she's an introvert and doesn't like being around drunk people because they're talkative, and it's hard because she has "very little energy for people in the first place" and that being around people is draining. how is that not a huge contradiction like lol wut
I've been on/off with her for many years but yeah I've noticed that she seems to not be able to keep a guy and has a tendency to choose some jerkish guys. I dunno if she just has bad taste or can't seem to pick up on the red flags but it seems like she's one of those people who wants to be financially supported by her partner while she gets to work on her personal hobbies and there's nothing wrong with that per say but in the position she's in, it's better to wait and keep working until you know you're with the right person and they are okay with you not working a regular job. >>1078053
What was the situation with her ex-husband? That one guy named Kevin from back in 2012? Was he not a good guy? I don't think she ever really talked about why that relationship didn't last.
But yeah I also agree with how you pointed out her contradiction. How can she be disappointed that it wasn't a real party with lots of people if she admitted that she doesn't like being around a ton of people. As an introvert myself, I'd certainly prefer a small get together over a large one. I can understand her not wanting to be around a bunch of drunk people since I'm the same way myself but yeah, she totally contradicted herself towards the end.
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The chipmunk is playing with guns now… Oh the stereotype
She looks like a hillbilly trying to nab a squirrel for supper because there wasn't any roadkill out.
Also thanks Adam for pointing out it's a pelletgun. Because we all definitely assumed you had the connections to get a big boy gun.
They really love to LARP as proud protectors of the aryan race. But it's just aad.
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I think what she means is that she was expecting for people to come dressed up and actually participate in the halloween atmosphere. She was hoping that it would be something where people would dress up, play games and just participate in the spooky, halloweeny festivities. I think her "introvert" and "quiet" excuse was bascially code for she doesn't really fit in with the people her boyfriend seems to hang with. I think at first it was exciting and fun for her because he was taking her to bars and she was meeting new people, but it kind of wore off and now she's beginning to see it's not all what she thought it would be.
Also, I feel like her new boyfriend might be an alcoholic lowkey.
ever since I first started watching her she has always worked customer service jobs like food service and movie theatres.. I guess maybe that's another reason she becomes financially dependent because you don't make much money at those jobs.
and I have no idea what happened with kevin, but they are apparently still friends since she did a video with him recently.
>>1078087>They'll get a 5 min wank with the shirt.
Kek gross but funny.>>1078348
Oh right, yeah I remember she used to work delivering Pizzas and a movie theatre. Yeah she works minimum wage jobs and you can't really live on that unless you already had lots of money saved up.
It's nice to hear that she's on good terms with her ex-husband and I do hope that this relationship she's in works out. I'm not a Leah Mouse fan and she sometimes says dumb stuff but I don't think she's an awful person like Adora or a scummbag like Jake.
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Here it is. she also posted a spergy rant about how she's not goth anymore, because her ex-boyfriend was abusive
and the local scene doesn't like her or something.
lol at first glance I thought she was doing some kind of puppy makeup and I was like ah shit, not another one of these bitches getting into bdsm pupply play type shit.
honestly I think drac is pretty, despite that mustache
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Dorian is dabbling in harddrugs again.
Holy crap anon you weren't joking. That is so cringe… I remember seeing her post about how she's not Goth anymore but I didn't know it was because of her ex-boyfriend. >>1078593
She really needs to see a psychologist and get help if she's not already doing that now.
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That absolute word salad, she must have been blasted when she wrote this.>>1078615
I know she randomly mentioned going a month ago. Maybe she quit…
Didnt this happen a while ago though? At least shes not trying to pretend shes goth which is more can be said for some here.>>1078421
>>1078835>I know she randomly mentioned going a month ago. Maybe she quit…
I really hope she didn't, I feel a psychologist is the only person who can really help her sort through her problems and mental state. >>1078993>Didnt this happen a while ago though? At least shes not trying to pretend shes goth which is more can be said for some here.
Yeah I'll give her credit for being honest and not calling herself something she's not anymore which does give her some points compared to the others.
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from TT's twitter. like it's sad I guess but also thank god. who the fuck adopts a wild swan?
Well, she posts about it openly on insta. So probably.
I'm not saying her doing drugs is good in any way. But at least she's not lying about spending her patreon money on medical bills or charity or some shit. Which is better than some cows.
She also said she plans to just use a few timed, and she does this every couple of months to maintain sobriety. But that sounds like classic junkie "I can stop whenever I want to" logic to me. I'm not buying it until I see it.
I hope she does though, and continues therapy.
Talking from experience: this is bullshit. You're just making excuses for yourself to use drugs. Then it's going to be more and more frequently because the drugs will stop hitting that
hard. This is the textbook cycle of addiction.
The thing is: if you were ever adicted to something and you gotta stop, you have to stay away. There's no way you'll stop using if you keep using you know?
It doesn't matter if she says it's just a few times spaced out. If you're still thinking about dope, waiting till the day you'll use, planning etc… Dope is still on your mind, dictating what you do. No one in the history of the world got to ditch addiction by waiting anxiously for the day they'll be high. You're still depositing your happiness on drugs.
From one dope lover to the other, Dorian: if you gotta be high and productive enough to get your shit together, you gotta ditch the hard drugs and be a full time pot head. Like, be stoned all day everyday, it's still much more manageable, healthier and cheaper than doing heroin that comes from god knows where.
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Of course she uses bodypos hashtags….
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Guess Dorian is still in therapy.
Leahmouse is also still friends with her last ex, that mike guy. She still catsits for him.
He started out as one of her subscribers, and they met in her comment section. Which may help explain why he was a creepy possessive controller. A bit of a red flag if you ask me.
I have been wondering the same for years. And not, it's not "the aspergers" she pretends to have, no one with asperger's sounds like her, she sounds legit mentally retarded, always has. She always made very little sense, talks in a very weird pause manner… Honestly, it wouldn't me surprise me in the slightest of we found out she has problems with drugs, because one thing adora isn't
is normal, let's be honest.
Does anyone knows if she has any history of drug use? it would explain A LOT
I feel bad for her it probably was the only good thing in her life that gave her hope and happiness unlike jake
Least she gave the swan some comfort in it last few weeks
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Not allergic to racists though. Do your tradwife friend and her alphachud know how you feel?>>1080892
I doubt it was any deeper than "I like victorian things, so Victoria."
With friends like Victoria Adora doesn't need enemies! Video was a car crash and a pain for my ears.
Is Victoria aiming for the throne and took the chance to trash Adora?
It she even smart enough for that? >>1078039
I get the same vibe.
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Kat von D has gone full conspiracist with the pandemic. According to her and Rafael’s IG stories, they are currently looking at properties in Indiana to escape the “tyrannical” CA government. They flew by private jet. Doesn’t that go against their save the planet lifestyle?
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She also follows “turning point USA” and “the healthy American.” They post right wing talking points/conspiracies about the pandemic.
That completely tracks. Antivax Kat feels oppressed because she has to wear a facemask in public and can't go to the paterpark or some shit. Such oppression.
Turning points is also extremely right wing and quite racist. Is anyone shocked? Considering her babydaddy has a swastika tattoo.
It would be hilarious though if she ended up in a compound in Indiana in a standoff with the FDA.
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Adora is an ARTIST you guys!
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The healthy American.
Good to see that Kat isn't some fringe weirdo or anything. She listens to a lady who posts her research on facebook!
I don't think that's what "peer reviewed" means.
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Oh great! Another historical mansion for her to ruin with her 3edgy5me designs. Hope the ghosts haunt the shit out of them.
>>1081720>really cba to read old forms
How is that our responsebillity?
But there is actually very little concrete milk there. She and her babydaddy broke up. They both dated other people. Reeree hooked up with some tattoo artist and that went south pretty quickly. She's single now. And she has a history of depression and suicide attempts. But very little is actually known about it.
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She will have spent hundreds on this.Wonder if people will remember when she inevitably starts begging for money again.
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Stop gatekeeping the lovestump with your facts people.
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I’m glad KVD hasn’t been personally affected by the pandemic but sharing this with her impressionable fans is so irresponsible.
Good to see Kat is willing to sacrifice a bunch of people so she can have indoor dining.
Let's not drink bleach until nobody ever dies again.
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He knows this tweet will earn him seven new game cartridges and a brand new Switch when his lonely Twitch viewers catch on.
No dark cloud hanging over MY lovestump, no.
It sounds more like he's a moron who started a new file, played it for 14 hours without saving, which crashed the Switch, then became even more of a moron by destroying the cartridge when the mistake was his own. Also hilarious to chimp out over Zelda
of all things, which are all pretty chill games.
She bought some reproduction costume jewelry. It's one of the least offensive things she's done.>>1084720
I wonder how many people she feels it is okay to get sick and possibly kill in order for her to not have to stay in. What's the ratio here?>>1084875
Literal toddler. How can people look at this brat, stunted in so many ways, and shove more money his way?
First getting a tattoo during covid while sick. And now this.
No way in hell would I trust her to pierce me if this is the kind of behaviour she finds acceptable in other artists.
So what you're saying is… she went to a shitty piercer when she got her previous set and it backfired.
Sort of like she should have learned from that experience…
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Oh god not to be a ass but they are so wonky the left side so much higher then the other side and having to change the bar yourself because they gave you the wrong size yikes
But they really suit her
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So turns out the Swan was actually male and well known in the park.
TT of course isn't as special as she thought she was and is now sulking because of it.
"My 82-year-old father would visit it every day during lockdown and developed a lovely relationship with him. During lockdown he has felt very isolated inside the house, and he would walk a three mile round trip just to see and check up on it if I wasn't able to take him,
"The swan had recently split with its breeding partner after their eggs didn't hatch this summer, and you could tell how upset he was about it. You could tell that it just didn't know what to do with itself.
>It's pretty funny she thought it was a female and there was someone else who visited him more regularly than she did.
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She's actually arguing with people on the newspapers FB page
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"A friend of her's" > actual park ranger
As much as Kaya is a doofus for making it all about her narcissistic pain that they aren't using her name for the swan, if she got more active in her local community and animal welfare it seems like it would be good for her - Kaya should go volunteer at a rescue centre and get out of the fucking house. Her life is so boring and I honestly pity her atm, she'd have things to talk about in her videos if she actually did something rather than just bought stuff.
The swan sitting on the dead eggs is a useful allegory for your life Kaya.
That would involve actual work though and we all know how she feels about that. It's all about the ~aesthetic~ for her and if she can't wear cute outfits and take pretty pictures posing with the animals she won't be interested.
She will say that she doesn't have the "time"
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Imagine you were the elderly pentioner who lovingly interacted with this swan. First it dies, and then this crazy girl tries to claim that ACTUALLY it was a girl and it's real name is victoria and it loved ME!>>1086904
Well done stumpy. Fleeced some more gullible "snacs."
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And then there's people like this
Please Lord tell me they are trolling her…lmfao Kaya is the one who is being a jagoff and it was a bird not fucking RuPaul.
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What new crafts do you guys think Lauren is getting into? Is she finally going to come out as a nationalist or is she going to maybe ramp up the nudie shit? Stay tuned…
Closing your mouth shouldn't be considered a craft.
It's probably bread baking or mead brewing or some seemingly wholesome tradwench shit that will keep her chud in carbs.
Or indeed, nudes.
I agree with this. Kaya is a narcissistic doofus as you said but this is definitely good for her because it's getting her out of that musty house and into the real world which is what she needs to do more of. >>1086665
That is so sad to hear.. Like do these people just randomly donate that much money to him or does he have to do something to earn it? >>1086960
?Imagine you were the elderly pentioner who lovingly interacted with this swan. First it dies, and then this crazy girl tries to claim that ACTUALLY it was a girl and it's real name is victoria and it loved ME!
kek I can't>>1087160
Pretty much part of this whole "me Me Me" culture we're living in right now…
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From his IG story. Does anyone recall if he has a driving license for that ?
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This is just hilarious! Psychara is getting more ignorant every day
Kaya begged for an e-board too, fell of it and is now crying for a pair of rollerskates.
Jake will pose on the bike for his thirsty fangirls and then make Kaya drive him everywhere if she ever gets her licence.
My bet she will moan for a vintage car for the 'aesthetic'which will inevitably become a money pit
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Seriously…why are companies still sponsoring her ?
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….. as if she doesn't fucking whine all summer long too. I hope she wastes all her money on her studio and has to get a real job. lazy fucking fat bitch.
I wonder if she realises it's actually illegal to uproot wild plants.
Not that it's the worst crime in the world but why does she feel entitled to do this?
I hate to admit tit because I think Froyo's content is boring as well but I will agree with this because if I had to choose which Altcow I'd rather watch between the two, I'd watch Froyo over Toxic
if push came to shove.
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Mara's hair keeps getting worse.
Just stop fucking with it for five minutes.
inb4 she shaves that whole fucking side from the damage.
Someone get this bitch some deep conditioner.
That came out of nowhere.
And might just be a "you" problem.
I would say me but I hate myself
She seems to be a Canadian Jillian Venters, in that every dark subculture is goth somehow. I also don't understand her obsession with getting non-goths to model for her, it always looks terrible and unauthentic, because they aren't in the scene.
She also tends to add people's preferred styles, hence the generic pinup look, that model wears that irl, it's why it looked good. The emo look in the male one? The guy had an emo phase. Also that "I need a model from Japan because they fully understand gothic lolita" is cringe, I guess Rose Nocturnalia doesn't understand it. She'd be a good model because she's goth and
into gothic lolita.
I don't think gothic lolita should be in there since it's not really related to goth. I don't get the wanting a Japanese model either, if anything they would be more critical. They would laugh at that last example of lolita shown.
I doubt she would cast Rose Nocturnalia. Lisa surrounds herself with poseurs and calls real goths that actually try to explain to her the subculture "haters".
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Of course they are antivaxxers.
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Not surprising coming from this lot. Can’t help the globalist monkeys of doom from spoiling that pure aryan blut.
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I do not understand why she has her teeth hanging out like that all the time. She looks fucking miserable to boot and her makeup is awful. No milk I just think she's actually not hideous but voluntarily makes herself look like a demented vampire rabbit.
Of course they are. Wait until they start bitching about George Soros trying to kill off all the pureblooded white folk wirh his evil vaccines.
Honestly, if it didn't also jeapordise other people, I'd say fuck it. Let them see if their healthy outdoor activities and pure aryan blood are any match for the virus. But it isn't that simple.
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That's the thing though, her teeth don't
protrude like that kid (poor guy), looking at her youtube videos her teeth are a bit big but she can close her mouth fine, she just chooses to do this slack jawed pose for every. single. photo. I don't understand.
Maybe fagsfar likes his women not just simple and obedient, but downright special needs.
When he said he was looking for breeding stock, did he mean looking like an actual goat? Is huge toofses some aryan racial feature we just haven't heard of?
Oh God.. The original videos were bad enough on their own with shoving non-Goth stuff in it like Gothic Lolita, Steampunk, Pastel Goth, New Romantic, Emo, and Edwardian. I can only imagine how this one is gonna turn out. >>1097838> I also don't understand her obsession with getting non-goths to model for her, it always looks terrible and unauthentic, because they aren't in the scene.
Thank you anon, I agree with this as well. Why can't she just get local Goths in her scene to do the modeling? It'll be more authentic and you'll have someone who knows what the Goth scene is and how to really jibe with the vibe sorta speak.
And I second Rose Nocturnalia. As much as I think Gothic Lolita should not be included in a video called "40 years of GOTH" because Gothic Lolita doesn't come from the scene, Rose would be the best candidate for this since she knows both subcultures fairly well.>>1098820
Jillian Venters is someone who I don't really follow and I do find her a little annoying and does spread misinformation what with her thinking that being Darkly-Inclined is what makes you Goth, I think she's relatively harmless. At the most she just spreads some misinformation when it comes to Goth but aside from that, she hasn't really done anything heinous or scammed people out of money.
She's annoying, she's been in the scene for decades, knows her shit musically, but panders and lies instead of educating her audience (MCR iz goff uwu). Not to mention that moronic Sweet Mommy Cupcake Goff
Since we can bring up random people now, does anyone else think Angela Benedict is a fake ass clout chaser? I had a lot of respect for her, but I've just noticed some stuff that's quite off.>>1099259
Rose is also in the same city as "Liisa". I guess the only good thing about these videos is they show the importance of the music. Fascinating how a goth can style a non-goth in the exact same clothes they wore back then, do their makeup, and hair, and somehow it still looks fake.
Das optische Gegenteil arischen Aussehens
She looks weird af
In cemetery confessions, Lisa claimed to be in the goth scene for years. She thinks she's above criticism because she's an "eldergoth" and will only argue with people that "know their stuff". The new video is probably going to turn out just as bad because she still refuses to listen to legitimate criticism from goths in the scene.
At this point, I'm thinking Lisa's including gothic lolita just to make lolitas annoyed, since there were so many comments on the first video. Again, in cemetery confessions Lisa said she would accept criticism from subcultures she didn't know anything about, but adding gothic lolita yet again just shows she doesn't care.
There's a few things I've caught over the years that just seem off.
It feels like she exaggerated some of her stories and her old IG photos looked really different-no indication of goth at all, no hashtags related to the subculture.
Once, during a livestream someone made a comment along the lines of Angela's taste in music changing. Angela had mentioned that this was someone she knew from her past but seemed to avoid actually responding to the particular comment. It was weird…
>>1099282> Rose is also in the same city as "Liisa". I guess the only good thing about these videos is they show the importance of the music. Fascinating how a goth can style a non-goth in the exact same clothes they wore back then, do their makeup, and hair, and somehow it still looks fake.
Oh I didn't know that Rose lived in the same city, even better then and Lisa should definitely reach out to her. But yeah your comment on how the outfits at the end of the day looked "fake" is kinda true. I think the only one that looked somewhat natural was when she styled the male model in Deathrock, that looked pretty legit and someone you'd see at a 45 Grave or Virgin in Veil concert but everything else just looked costumey, especially in the woman version. >>1099604
I didn't see that episode of Cemetery Confessions but hearing that, yeah she seems to be full of it. It was already bad enough when she included "Emo" in the men's Goth fashion video and yeah Gothic Lolita is not Goth but honestly most of the things she included in those videos were not Goth. She didn't even play Goth music in them. I get that she probably didn't want to deal with licensing issues but she could've commissioned a musician to whip up a simple little post-punk/goth rock sounding instrumental to go along with the video. That is why I have to wonder if she really does care about Goth or only cares about attention whoring with it, especially if she's not taking any critiques from Goths in the scene.>>1099748
I feel like Angela probably doesn't mean to exaggerate her stories but it just appears that way because she has a way of explaining things. You've got me curious on the old IG photo thing though. Are you thinking that she wasn't actually Goth in the 90s or something? Personally I feel she was and I remember in one of her older videos she explained how one of her ex-boyfriends tried to change her and maybe that would explain why she didn't look the way she does now during that time.
Angela did make a video about how her abusive
ex hated goth and she went through a "normal" phase to try and appease him.
I don't like her recent streams for that reason, she was friendlier in her earlier ones, now if someone corrects her on something, or brings up a good point and they clearly aren't dumb or a little kid that she can make fun of, she will ignore them and her followers take note and do the same. It's very cult like and sad, because it used to not be that way.
But what I meant was, she was quite bold when she started making goth videos, saying that hauls are shallow and contribute nothing to the scene, even better, on her interview with Skullgirdle and Count on CC, she said those people weren't goth, they pissed her the fuck off, and were misrepresenting the subculture.
But then you realize she ran and befriended the two most popular shallow posers with zero personality outside of dark clothes, Kaya and Ree Ree. She did this the moment she started making goth-centered videos. And I get it, popular friends even if they are fakes, they grow your channel. But clearly posers don't piss her off as badly as she acts like they do in videos and interviews. It's all very performative.
There is some other things but I think my post will be too long and that would just annoy everyone, so whatever.
Her recent streams huh? Honestly I haven't watched her recent streams in a while now so I haven't seen the change in attitude you're alluding to. I'll have to tune into her next stream then but also like >>1100055
said, if you have more milk about why you think she's not all that great, then share it. It'd help if you have some screenshots but we understand that is not always possible to get, especially if the person doesn't keep their streams up which Angela doesn't seem to do. But if you have anything you want to mention that we should be more wary of in future stream she does then shoot.
But then you realize she ran and befriended the two most popular shallow posers with zero personality outside of dark clothes, Kaya and Ree Ree.
Didn't Angela mention that she didn't really know Kaya's reputation before shit hit the fan when Jake shat on Goth in a livestream? I didn't know she was friends with Ree Ree though.
Wait a minute. Kai decadence got frozen out on her livestream because of his terf shit.
And was super butthurt about it.
And posts here.
seems to me that this is one person who just wants to start shit with a bunch of people because he / she is butt hurt about some childishness on their part, they cant tell us why angela is fake or wrong, and when you confront them about it, it changes to "she is just annoying" or something, but also never tells us why… i have seen no change in her streams, she has hundreds of people who show up, participate in the stream, and are just overall happy to be there…. i would say this person did something wrong in her stream, got chewed, and are now pointing fingers at her for something they did wrong… if you cant tell us why SHE is the problem, then the problem is most likely YOU…
Kai is literally above you, learn how to tell the difference.>>1100365
Eh, I don't get the defense, she overexaggerates and is a hypocrite.
Claimed that shit rapper Baby Goth was saying racial slurs in her music, which wasn't even true. It was some other shit "g0FF" rapper named Trippie Redd, said there's pictures of the girl doing drugs and posing with them on google, but outside of bags of weed? Nothing. I don't get lying on people because they're posers who make bad music.
Unfriended Ruadhan for being retarded, understandable, who wants to be friends with someone who makes fun of people dying and doesn't care? Yet she's done the same in her Furby Typewriter video. I guess making fun of others (Lil Peep) dying from an overdose is fine as long as they're a poser. "I guess he's goth now because he's dead."
It's just hypocritical, her outrage at certain things is very performative, she holds people up to a certain standard, but is free to say anything and do as she pleases. And that's why it's sad, she clearly knows better, she has called these types out before. But her audience doesn't care as long as they get 90s goth stories.
You seem to mostly mention stuff that rubs you specifically the wrong way, rather than actual milk.
Also, if you want us to find something in a 5 hour video, just fucking timestamp it.
I'm with the other anons. Seems like Angela just ignored you and now you're sperging out.
No, I've been disappointed in her for the past year or so. Nothing milky, but this is where I lost all respect for her: her freaking out on Twitter because someone had the audacity of critiquing the Sophie Lancaster project, and her thinking that said same person called her a racist
She put a direct link to the user's IG account, and all of her sycophants started to harass and threaten this user.
What I find hilariously hypocritical is that her and the owner of Necromancy where up in arms for IBF and Kaya doing the same thing with their followers. Rules for thee not for me.
This person tried to clear things up with Angela, but she just left her on read. As far as I know she ended up deleting all of her IG content.
Here's where Angela brings up this person on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/Angela_Benedict/status/1298042767361429504
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It's an imageboard Anon.
But she's screencapping a post somebody made on a public instagram account, and presumably intended for public viewing.
I watch her livestreams and she said that Kai gave her the opportunity to unfriend him because of his views. it happened privately between them, according to her.
it was ruadhan who got muted/blocked from her livestreams because he kept sperging about lockdown, and when a girl said he should meditate for his anxiety he told her to go fuck herself.
This is the video where she talks about her abusive
ex and normie phase.
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Reeree's new account for anyone who is interested.
I was unable to find this before for whatever reason as it seems she was tweeting on it for a while.https://twitter.com/reephillips?lang=en
The photos were from 2015/16, before she started making goth videos. The old videos on her channel weren't goth related either
Funny that she goes live right when her name gets brought up here…
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This fucking privileged bitch! As if she isn’t married to a former gang member who had been arrested and put in jail.
Wow Kat. Remember when a friend of your husband had sex with your underage daughter. And instead of reporting it to the police he disowned her?
But yes. People who get vaccinated are the REAL criminals.
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To all of the anons/anon who is tinfoiling Angela only recently became goth for clout, have you done any lurking? She is always posting old photos of herself and yes she dresses alternatively in them. In fact the thumbnail for her most recent live stream was an old picture.
It's totally fine to not like Angela. Wish people would just be honest instead of making things up.
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I can hear her oinking through my computer.>>1101305
Possible tinfoil but I wonder if it's ruadhan stirring up shit again.
Thank you anon. As someone who has watched Angela for awhile now, she's always showed old photos of herself including some from her teenage days where she definitely looked Goth and she was already transparent about that brief period in time where she tried to be "normal" to appease her judgmental ex-husband. She obviously reconnected with her old self after she cut ties from that relationship. Agreed, you don't have to like Angela but try to avoid the tinfoiling when it comes to her past as she's mostly been open about that stuff.>>1101500
What would Ruadhan gain from stirring up shit by trying to throw Angela under the bus? I know he's a bit off his rocker but I'm not sure if he'd try to pull something like that on Angela.
CC posted a video. I guess they roast IBF (again) and Adora. I haven't watched it, but here's the link if anyone wants it.>>1100010
When did she say she was friends with kaya? Last I heard she didn't like kaya, because she and her followers harassed one of Angela's friends.
And that time Dorian and him got into a spergoff.
Hell, he's got videos on his channel bitching about trisha paytas. He'll do anything for clout. Because clout means attention for whatever ebegging scheme he's running this week.
Are people really accusing Angela of being a clout chaser? Kek. Shes always been honest and not fake in the slightest.>>1101787
Thats one thing him and dorian have in common, although they do it in different ways. Maybe thats why they hate each other.
Sometimes. It worked when he did his video about IBF to plug his exterminator fundraising. People didn't know him then and that video got a lot of sympathy from people who dislike Froyo. But his patreon is not very effective.
He did recently get someone to buy him a new folding bike though.
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Sage for no actual milk. I just thought Mai looks special needs here.
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Samefagging but a recent example.
He had more but some look like they got deleted.
Same anon above.
Oh right, yeah I know he was pretty active on Reddit and I actually did see him e-beg there but I didn't know it was a common thing he did. Does Ruadhan have a job? If I remember correctly from the last thread, people were saying he didn't have one because of his health but just wanted to be sure because Fake Munro and Kaya are unemployed which is why they e-beg so I just figured…
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His patreon isn't doing great.>>1102227
Some anon on the previous thread screencapped all of his various gofundmes. For exterminators, dental work, rent, food etc.
An anon who claims to know him in real life also said that he is known to spend his disabillity checks on expensive shit and then begs for money. They also said he had a reputation for sexual assault in their scene, tending to grab guys by the ass, and did so to her husband while screaming he wanted to fuck them.
He's on disabillity. Which is absolutely hard. But this is not the way to deal with it.
im just gonna say it, to the person or persons who are talking shit here about Angela and these other youtube goths, you are a truly toxic person, i dont know why you are so butt hurt but you have yet to bring up a legitimate reason why they are bad people, nor do i think you even know why YOU are, get a life and find something better to do with your time, these people are trying to add their knowledge and experience to the internet so that others can enjoy it, and you are bitching for no reason at all other then the fact that their ideas dont conform to your small opinion of reality, so if you want to watch the videos done by these people to acquire more knowledge then do it, if you have a problem with them then dont, but ether way, for the love of god, just shut the fuck up! when YOU contribute something to this world that is worth a damn thing THEN you can talk…(k)
ruadhan is fucking unwatchable, he like you said goes wayyyy off topic while ranting. his IBF video was like, 27 minutes long when it could have been like 5 minutes.
I'm no fan of froyo but I can't fucking get over the fact that he dragged her for e-begging when he does the exact same fucking thing.
Relax. Just because someone contributes to the goth community doesn't mean they are to be put on a pedstal, above reproach. Clearly, the anon/s have an issue with Angela and felt the need to vent here. It doesn't make someone toxic
because you happen to think the criticism is unfair.
I don't agree that she's immature, it's more along the lines of the constant adoration and asspats from her followers getting to her head.
She always came off as self-righteous to me, coupled that with her stans never questioning her, and you end up getting a Valentina
Exactly. I've tried watching like 3 other videos aside from his Froyo rant but even for background noise it's just unpleasant because of the incessant rambling off topic points. And exactly right. very hypocritical that he'd call out Froyo for her e-begging when he's no better than she is. In fact I feel like he probably does it more than she does. >>1102526
This too. It's pretty ironic that the two people he decided to rant on exhibit the same traits that he himself has. They are all so alike that it's entertainingly shocking.
Yeah I kinda noticed this myself with her. I didn't see the last stream but I've seen a few other ones and she does seem like she's not very good with listening to other people's opinions. The thing about Rose McGowan, since you were there, what exactly did the guy who disagreed with her say? Like did he bring up a fair or thought-provoking thing or was he just being an asshole? Either way I feel like >>1102768
is right that it's not so much that she's immature but it's just that with how all her stans gas her up and don't seem to question some of the things she says, she may not realize that she may have developed a bit of an ego.
It makes sense that he would start shit with Dorian. They are both trans autists with a drug habit. Sit through one of Ruadhan's "medication haul" videos if you have the stamina.
I remember someone suggested on a previous thread that he might be jealous of Dorian. Then some "anon" showed up to ramble about how Ruadhan wasn't jealous of Dorian! You have no proof! YOU'RE jealous of Ruadhan! Shuttup!
Agreed. All ego.
I caught some of her last livestream. When politics get bought up, she has a snarky comeback and thats it.
Angela doesn't debate or defend her position with any actual facts. Someone in the chat brought up MtF trans in women's sport and how that females who try to fight this get called TERFS when all they want is to be protected and play a fair game. She didnt respond to that comment because that debate would require more than repeating twitter talking points.
I appreciate the great content she contributed to the community, but that doesn't mean she deserves to have her ass kissed by every goth on the internet.
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Speaking of Dorian, her family dynamics are healthy as always.
Sometimes it really is hard not to blame her family for at least some of her issues. Her dad should not be talking about her body like that. And her mom should not turn a blind eye to it in her house.
Ew agreed anon. What kind of father talks like that to or around their offspring, let alone their daughter? That's just creepy.
And also Dorian, you could've just not lived off of Nutella, moderation is a thing lol.
I don't think he was intentionally being an asshole, he didn't say "all trannies should die!" or any shit like that. he did say that trans people don't exist which I guess could come across as hateful.
but somebody else said that "gender identity" is what you identify as but doesn't change your anatomy. valid
point but she read it out loud and didn't respond to it.
yeah he could have been nicer but even when people politely disagree with her she still calls them hateful and close minded and then bans them.
the stream is still up, but you can't read what that guy said because they banned him so all his comments disappeared.
Yeah. Ruadhan basically spends his days ebegging and googling himself.
Gee, wonder why his channel where he just incessantly rambles about himself is more popular?
Holy shit! You weren't kidding Anon. He is in no position to call dorian a junkie, even if what he is doing is technically legal.
I'm not from the US. Is it normal to get this many prescriptions? It can't be.
Imagine going to the doctor because you can't shit because of your opium use, and getting extra strong laxatives out of it.
Also kids, please don't mix paxol with adderall.
Actually, what he's doing here is quite clever.
He wants people to know that he's on a lot of pills. That way he can get some sympathy points. But notice how he only very briefly mentions the sleeping pills and painkillers and anxiety meds and stimulants. He sort of quickly mentiones them and then prattles on, so you sort of don't notice, especially if you zone out. But he talks forever about all the herbal supplements and allergy medication he's on.
The impression he is trying to leave you with is "Ruadhan is very sad and sick and deserves charity." Not "Ruadhan is on enougj (pseudo) opiates to knock out a small elephant.
Oh is that it? Yeah personally to me, simply just questioning transgenderism is not a hateful thing and you did say that he mentioned trans in women's sports and whether people like it or not, it's a discussion that's worth to be had. >>1102952
Perhaps but this is why discussion is good and if Angela was as open minded as she says she is, she could've easily talked it out and explained why she disagreed. I'm with >>1102947
on this one if it was purely just that and not him calling them "Trannies" or wishing violence on them. The sports discussion is a legit and valid
topic worthy for discussion imo.
Okay I know it's his body and his choice but good god, why did he have to film it like this? Yes, make the most unflattering video possible, that'll get the watchers. >>1102990
Good observation anon. I cannot watch this video but after hearing the first few minutes, yeah it's pretty clear that it was a ploy to get sympathy (and more Patreon support) because his life is so hard and stressful /s Not saying that he doesn't have a difficult life but if he's really bad at managing his money by spending it on expensive shit and not on his essential finacnes, that's mostly his own fault I'm sorry to say.
Saying trans people don't exist is very hateful towards trans people. Because it implies that since they believe themselves to be trans, there is something wrong with them.
Try replacing the word trans in that sentence with any other marginalized group. Then repeat it, and see if it feels good to you.
If somebody were to say to you that "gay people don't exist. It's just people who think they're gay" that would sound pretty bad.
As for trans people in sport, I agree it's a very complicated topic, and one a lot of trans people themselves don't agree on. It's worth discussing. You can argue that a youtube goth livestream is maybe not the most informed place to do it. But that's a different matter.
>>1103030>saying trans people don't exist is very hateful
I kinda disagree but
I don't wanna get banned. I will say though that saying trans people don't exist is a really poor choice of words.
>You can argue that a youtube goth livestream is maybe not the most informed place to do it. But that's a different matter.
that's why I don't chime in with my opinion, because I believe in picking my battles, and I know I would get blocked in a millisecond and told to go fuck myself 20 times by her stans. I wonder what angela would do though if she found out she had a secret terf watching her livestreams though lmao.
Right and I get that except for the conflation to homosexuality because that's a sexual orientation, not an ideology but I get what you're trying to say. And I suppose a goth livestream wouldn't be the best place but I only mentioned it because Angela seems to get political at times. Like that one time when I think it was a troll who interviewed her to ask why she was so against Trump or something like that, it happened last year. I just felt like when it came to Angela's streams, she was down to talk about a wide arrange of topics.>>1103134
Pretty much this. A poor choice of words really but it still could be an interesting discussion but Angela has pretty much demonstrated that she's not gonna have a discerning discussion so it's best not to bother.
Secret terf? It's not a superpower.
I'm pretty sure she'll assume there's a bunch of "secret terfs" watching her at all time.as well as racists, homophobes, etc. She's a public person on the internet with an audience bigger than 10 people.
Oh no, triggered
tranny alert. No one said it was a super power lmao.
And yes I'm sure she has lots of homophobes watching her, since most of her audience are trans or trans advocates.
>>1103188>Oh no, triggered tranny alert. No one said it was a super power lmao.
I'm neither trans, nor triggered
. You can care about trans rights and trans issues without being trans. It's called empathy. And you can think somebody is talking nonsense without being "triggered
." People love to accuse other people of being triggerex. It implies they're acting irrationally, so you don't have to seriously engage with them.
>And yes I'm sure she has lots of homophobes watching her, since most of her audience are trans or trans advocates.
Well, good thing you don't believe in coming across as hateful.
Look, obviously lolcow is not the venue to discuss this. If you really have "questions" about trans issues that are not based on a desire to troll, check out answers by people who are qualified to answer them. Contrapoint's "gender critical" video is a good, if somewhat flawed, place to start. If, however, you want to be a dick and every time somebody calls you out you retreat into a butthurt "what, can't I ask QUESTIONS now!" We could play this game for hours.
Either way, lolcow is not the place.(no one cares)
>>1103199>well good thing you don't care about coming across as hateful
Yeah, grown men beating the shit out of women for having different views. But I'm the ome who is hateful. Since you're recommending me videos,why dont you watch Magdalene Berns' video about the Speakers Corner incident.
Also, Contrapoints is a really bad example to represent the trans community. He made light of Sylvia Plath's suicide. When she said she wished she could walk alone at night he said "why would you want to walk alone at night? Id rather be at home sucking dick". Of course, everything is about sexual degradation to MtFs. Like a typical male.
If you want me to have more sympathy for the trans community, Contra aint it.
Judging by the time between and the time of posts, you're probably in Europe, or an Aussie desperately trying to cover themselves by purposefully coming across as illiterate in English.
Let's boil this all down to one simple fact: when you, put yourself and your ideas on the internet, you are opening yourself to criticism. Don't like it? Don't post. To say people always have to be ~super nice~ or agree with everything said by someone who is screaming for attention, well that just sounds like censorship, and social manipulation. I hope through all your overwhelming joy and superiority complex you can come to your senses and see how much of an idiot you're making of yourself.
But of course, if it wasn't anonymous, you wouldn't be so brave, would ya darling?
Beware the goff dictatorship, everyone!
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Why does Ruadhan show up semi-naked in so many of his videos? Does he think it will get him fans? Because I don't think it's working.
1)fuck off retard.
2)fuck off retard.
3)being a faggy edgelord isn't cool anymore, so.. fuck off retard.
It would be weird even if he had the body of a greek god. Just put pants on when meeting company. It's not that hard
He did this one video where he was very obviously naked with the camera viewbending just above his junk. No idea which video, and I sure as hell am not going to go look for it. But it was deeply unpleasant.
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it's because you have 0 chemistry and it seems like he hates you, kaya.
Not to mention how he actedvaround Kelly Eden. In an old vlog jake talked about his anger issues. He must be a real delight.
I kind of imagine she is just too lazy to construct a life without him. Breaking up is hard. But if your lives are intertwined on a practical level, it's also a lot of work. And we know how they both feel about that.
I'm pretty sure he will eventually leave her for one of his "snacs."
Jake is only 11k subscribers behind Kaya now.
He must know her channel is dead, and now she's not his free ticket to Barcelona any more, he'll drop her pretty soon once he surpasses her in subs
No. And why would you want to know?
Anorexia fetishes are fucked up. I don't know if Dorian giving them exposure is a good thing. I doubt it. But I can understand why he wanted to make fun of them and bitch about them after they used his teenage pictures as wank fuel and catfishing bait. I just think he could have handled it better.
But yeah. These people are sick abusive
Jake will never marry Kaya. He wants to be able to drop her whenever he meets someone thin who can provide him with clout.
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Or maybe , just maybe, it's because it's not 2016 anymore and people are sick of unboxing and get ready with me videos ?
Yes! And they're only a few months out of date.
How else can people enjoy you mispronouncing things and going on long tangents about things that have a smell which reminds you of other things, can't quite place it…
And we love the spooky box club ones too! Look, it's a coaster. But someone stuck a bat sticker on it! This will look great on the hoard.
Honestly. Kaya is a unique talent.
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They are going to get awfully lonely in Vevay seeing how they always have a revolving door of family, friends, and guests at their current home in LA.
I love watching all these conspiratard snowflakes flee CA.
I wonder if she knows that Indiana doesn't allow 'personal belief' vaccine exemptions. Muh tyranny!!!!
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Glad to see they left tehrannyccal LA for the Mike Pence state.
Wonder how she'll trash up that lovely old building.
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Orlee's doing a stream tomorrow it appears. Might be amusing to watch.
Since she isn’t completely leaving California behind, doesn’t that mean that she still has to suffer the tyrannical government and pay taxes on her home and business?
Why didn’t she just quietly buy this second home without turning up the victim
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Holy uncanny valley
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Interesting to see failsofar attending this fash event organised by Craig + Lucy Fraser, who were training national action recruits to be white nationalist jihadists a few years back. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-nazi-jihadis-mirror-investigation-4847059
Ugh. Nine angles. That's shit is fucked up. Even by white supremacist standards.
So yes, White pride jihadist actually does make sense. The internal logic there is not consistent. But that has never held a neonazi back before.
You know, it's just so weird that this harmless history enthausiast keeps finding himself among people who call for genocide. Guess he is just too trusting.
Which is why he and snaggletoof are just so shocked at people calling them racist.
I think attended this kind of shit is unambiguously dodgy af to be honest, Craig Fraser is a nasty piece of work with extreme far right connections. There are about 10 people there who are all associates of Fraser and his tradwife and Feigsfar just happens to show up? I wonder if Lauren went too.>>1111333
The O9A has had jihadist connections since Myatt converted to Islam in an attempt to use those groups for his antisemitic aims. National Action types like Craig Fraser were not explicitly islamist but used the Jihadi training videos to show their trainees that they needed to work/train hard to be the great White British resistance. This is essentially what they are still doing at this kind of event, trying to train up white nationalist soldiers in a race war.
Sort of sounds like these assholes are going from wannabee influencers who just happen to be white supremacists to actively trying to reap souls for the great white cause.
Explains why they're so desperate to keep hanging out with Mara. She has way more clout than they do.
Also because when she was called out she didn't actually deny it. She just said she didn't know and didn't want to talk about it.
If somebody told me some friends of mine were white supremacists, and I didn't think they were, I'm pretty sure I would say so.
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Fairly sure this is Felvae at the white nationalist event too. https://youtu.be/HupxlXV5Bjs?t=208
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isn't it dark souls fan larp? like crowning of the ivory king.
on another note, is felvae pregnant?
since the engagement she seems to have gained weight. i don't hate fat people. i just think that as a model she should stay in shape tbh
i don't see much mead posting anymore either so with that and the engagement it's suspect
The "ivy king" is a neopagan thing. According to various neopagan groups the ivy king rules the year after the winter solstice. The oak king rules after the summer solstice. They'll claim it's the "wisdom of the ancient forefathers" etc. But we actually don't have any historical evidence for it. Though most neopagans are harmless crunchy types who just wanna be left alone and do their own thing, a lot of white supremacist groups use pagan and old norse themes.
As for her being pregnant, I would not be surprised. She is his "tradlass" after all. And part of that tradlife is having as many kids as possible.
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Yeah this channel is run by Craig Fraser - the guy who was running training camps for National Action (which is now a banned organisation after various members were convicted of terrorist offences) and put the event on. A year or so ago he was involved in the O9A but seems to have moved on from that.
I do wonder how Lauren and Adam fit in with this bunch being as they are vegan and Frazer seems to loathe vegans - note the pig head as a prize at the event.
I guess sticking it to brown people, ehm, I mean, love of history is more important than veganism now.
No maybe about it. They've gone full fash.
"Fraser has penned a rambling, 374-page guide to physical activity – available on Amazon – that advises followers to “Practice violence then, harm yourself, experience pain, practice the traditions of the day, learn to hunt, to kill, to maim and to dominate in battle.”
Not just fash but paramilitary fash.
Everything is so dumb dumb dumb.
Must be hard for failstaf to thread the needle between trying to appear nonthreatening and homely, while hanging out with white pride militias.
I have a very hard time believing Mara is oblivious to all of this.
Me neither, she knows what they are doing. I wouldn’t be surprised if she showed up at a rural retreat they hosted.>>1113314
Fits in with Adam’s constant “muh great warrior” sperging.
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Adora is asking for a small donation of 100$ to be able to email her a picture of your dick for christmas. Says “Your gift from me is knowing Ive seen it!”
Guess selling the "rape victim
" shirt for $10 000 didn't work out for her.
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These dumbasses! No empathy for those who lost loved ones to COVID and have to spend the holidays without them?
Yeah. I'm a bucktoofed idiot about to marry a slowwitted chud who wants to use me as a breeding machine. I have no education, no real job, and the only income I generate is due to me sucking up to other influencers and showing my tits.
But I'm white! So who's the pathetic loser now?
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I’m sorry? I think there’s been a misunderstanding. This is from Kat von D’s Christmas party with a huge gathering in her L.A home. Her husband captioned a photo “super spreading love” making a mockery of the current COVID situation. A report came out saying that a person dies of Covid-19 every 10 minutes in the L.A county. That’s definitely something to cry about.
She looks like pennywise's mom.
Or like her chud is beefing her up to use her to haul his Saxon plough.
ntayrt but it's just the combination of LA county having a population of 10 million people and them running out of hospital space, even if only 1-2% of the population die from covid that's still like 100,000-200,000 people who will die there if everyone gets infected.
Apparently they've been runnning out of ICU space for like weeks at this point.
Are you slow? These people are in the united states, which have clear restrictions against huge gatherings. Especially in their city, as explained by>>1115382
Go be edgy about a worldwide pandemic somewhere else
He's from the UK but the pair of them constantly use Americanisms.
In that one video as much as I could stomach he goes on and on about how we drive "on the wrong side of the road" and calls petrol "gas".
Can't be confusing those poor dumb american snaccs now.
Usually vegans at least serve you some cashews or coconut.
This dinner absolutely seems worth it. Come for the sparkling wit, stay for the fine dining.
What really grinds my gears is that these privileged assholes will get the best of medical care because of their money while poor people will be turned away.
L.A hospitals have reached maximum capacity and are even running out of oxygen to give to COVID patients. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/us/california-hospital-oxygen-covid/index.html
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TT's much anticipated studio vlog is up.
She painted some walls green and added a couch.
I give it until a month after it's finished for her to lose interest and claim it's too 'cold' to do anything in there.
What does she expect to get done in there that she can't do in her house anyway? I know she thinks the only thing stopping her is having ~space~ but she literally sits on a chair and opens boxes for a living.
It's not like she has any IRL friends to have over to even sit on that couch and hang out.
Kind of thought the same. It seems more like an escape from him. Remember when she fixed up the attic and he just started using it?
Though I would argue that while getting away from the lovestump is an understandable impulse, there are better ways to do it. Like break up with him. You can't shop and decorate your way out of a bad relationship.
It seems like Kaya is trying to reclaim some of her previous success as Jake is gaining popularity. >>1118322
It's obvious that your issues are personal. We do follow other groups. You are the same person who was ranting here weeks ago about Angela and when cemetery confessions posted her BLM video you were in the comments saying the exact same things you're saying here. You got called out about it there and ignored the receipts and you are back again. If you have any milk post it but your hate boner is what is annoying.
For fucking real. She doesn't do jack shit where a studio was necessary. All she does is unbox shit and you don't need a fancy studio to do that.
It’s NYE, put down the salt and go get drunk or something.>>1118294
I still never know if I should feel sorry for her with her shitty relationship or just give up because she contributes nothing to the alt scene. Giving up is currently winning.
+1 as another person who tends to flip back and forth with Kaya as well. It's true that she contributes jack shit to the scene nor is she a Goth at all and just a vapid attention whore. But aside from that she's not a genuinely horrible or malicious person, just very lazy.
>if she just stopped doing YouTube and did something with her life beyond opening boxes on camera.
I feel like she'll be in her mid 30s, early 40s when she realizes that she could've done something more worthwhile than opening boxes on her dying YouTube channel.
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Aurelio Voltaire followed a smaller goth DIY creator for a few years. (He unfollowed her not long ago.)
He recreated a craft she did 3 years ago and posted it on his YouTube, without crediting her. (Which she proved he did see and interact with the original design on her other platforms.)
She made a video about it without naming him, trying to point out that DIY content creators should credit their sources when applicable. (She admitted it wasn't the most original idea ever, but the way it turned out and knowing he interacted with it prior is hilariously sus.)
He proceeded to leave these comments and was being petty in the comments on his own video when being called out for it.
very masque of the red death. how ~gothique>>1118901
well then drop the name of the other youtuber so we can evaluate if it was coincidental
In the episode he filled a clear glass ornament with candy corn.
I don't know who the other person is and now I almost care ~less~ because the "OC DONUT STEAL" is literally just an ornament filled with candy.
I've seen this done about 1k times on pinterest-y sites over the past decade.
There are way too many people who've had their IPs stolen, this… is just sad
Not only am I not the person you are referencing I am not even a girl you brain dead moron. Get your head out of Angela Benedicts asshole and stop simp decorating the home you built in there.
I like how you tried to act like I didn't specifically state what my problem with her was. You actually went out of your way to make a quote and leave it out in act of obfuscation. Fucking lol.
As I mentioned earlier, Angela's takes on what it means to be Goth are fucking garbage because she doesn't actually know what the word SUBCULTURE means or how it's measured and why those methodology standards are chosen.
Angela believes and spreads this bullshit notion that to be a Goth all one has to do is like ONE Goth song and that the music is all that really matters in the definition of what makes one a Goth.
Let's logically stress test that in a hypothetical shall we? A ruthless sociopathic money grubbing corporate business man happens to hate Goth music and he absolutely hates Goths and Goth Subculture. To the point where he actively mocks Goths openly upon sight of one and has even beat up a few Goths for being Goth. Not going to jail due to his crack legal team defending him in court. In fact the only thing he loves more than hating Goths is making money.
One day a guy in marketing goes to this business man and says they've come up with a commercial that they think will go viral and sell a ridiculous amount of the companies widgets but in order for this commercial to work they have to attach a specific Goth song to it. The business man approves it because as much as he hates Goths and Goth music he would rather make tons of money. The commercial goes ultra viral making the company hundreds of millions in a few months and eventually billions in a few years.
Now the business man still hates Goths and Goth music but there is technically one Goth song he likes now which is the one he used in the commercial to make money. He doesn't like the song because he likes the instrumentals or the vocals, he doesn't like it because he relates to the lyrics, he doesn't like it because it puts him in a certain "Gothy" state of mind. He only likes the song because it reminds him of the time he made a lot of money…. And that's it. Now technically he still likes one Goth song and under Angelas definition he is now a Goth….because he likes at least one Goth song.
If Angela had taken 5 minutes to read a article on what Subcultures are and how and why they are defined then she wouldn't have fallen into this stupid line of thinking that liking one Goth Song makes one Goth or that the music is the only thing that matters in defining what makes one a Goth. Instead we have her spreading her brain dead ignorant take and making the Goth community stupider for it.
Exhibit A): being you who bends the knee and simps for this moron without thinking about what she says or questioning her. Cooming for your queen of ignorance.(scrote)
TLDR: Angela doesn't seem to think I'm goth and so I've decided to start a one-person hate campaign.
Jesus. I don't even care about Angela or watch her stuff. But you sound extremely unhinged. I kind of think the other Anons are right. This seems like a you problem.
nta but paragraphs are not reddit spacing
He likes to travel across the world to bone various goth cow hotties. You can observe his courting technique* in those old videos when he met ItsBlackFriday.
semi-related, in my city he would use a thirsty fan's home as a hotel during his tours. Often this would blow up in such a way that he'd have to find a new thirsty fan to crash with.
I'm assuming he repeated this in as many cities as he could.
she literally never said liking one goth song makes you goth. she said liking goth music
makes you goth. there's a difference.
again, it's fine to not like angela, no need to make shit up.
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KVD doubling down on the crazy. She says “endless” but shows only 3 masks in the plastic bag. I’m all for public cleanup and calling out littering but why single out “face diapers”?
She's so stupid. Calling masks "face diapers" in a derrogatory sense makes zero sense. Yeah, they pretty much are face diapers, they contain human fluids that can make people sick. Do you let your toddler going around diaperless spray shitting around all your house, your clothes, you face?
I can't believe there isn't some kind of fine for being a celebrity stimulating people to not believe in a virus in the midst of a pandemic
I watched 17 mins of it and here’s what I learned.
-His mother has cervical cancer.
-He’s wearing a leather top made of lamb skins.
-He called the BLM protests “riots”
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Stumpy has officially surpassed TT's subs
Yeah I agree. But it really does feel like things have turned because it seems like Kaya is losing views while Jake has been gaining them. Like >>1121361
, it's really only a matter of time before Jake moves on from her and goes for one of his "snacks".
I think that's a perfect explanation of their relationship. I have to admit that I used to be a fan of Kaya's when I was a dumb teenager and thought she fit exactly what you just said. Not so much Felicity Fawn as I didn't know who that was at the time but yes, she did fit the image of what I thought was the stereotypical "Goth" girl at the time and when I think back at her content, it was pretty vapid and not that interesting. Like I'm looking through her videos from 8-10 years ago and I don't understand how I could've watched that shit because she didn't do shit but alas, shallow teenage me was thinking "Goth girl" = Interesting even though she was never Goth in hindsight.
And I've gotta admit, I'm one of the morons who did think Jake was attractive way back in his early days of YouTube but just like Kaya, saw his content for what it really was and wised up to his horrible narcissism.
But looking at their last few videos' views, Jake is easily surpassing her and I can't help but feel like Jake doesn't find Kaya attractive, at least not as much as he used to since we pretty much know his type which is skinny alt girls and if Jake's channel continues to grow, I find it may cause some trouble with their relationship when he starts noticing more of his "snacks" flirting with him.
I'm kind of torn. On the one hand I'm glad she has ambitions to build a career for herself. She doesn't have much of an education, and I can certainly understand why she'd want out of the baetending business.
But I would not get pierced by her. Considering her terrible piercing care, willingness to go in to get tattood while sick during covid, and regular bragging about her lack of personal hygiene, I wouldn't feel safe.
I agree the piercing she did on the husband looks fine. If she can make a go of this, rather than living off makeover show "exposure" I would be genuinly glad for her.
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Felvae jumped on the neo fash trad wife trend of making festive solar crosses to dog whistle to her pals with. https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/celtic-cross
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What the hell is she doing to her nose? Trying to start a new trend of enhancing the tip of her huge nose to make herself look like she has a cold kek
Concerning those who thought Annika and Mai would fall out: only over Annika's dead body lol!
She is the type of leech who latches onto anyone with money, and Mai still has a lot of it. She did this with her boyfriend's family, she and her manlet sustained on that money for years. She tricked the fashion designer from her uni to shell out a couple grands to make a fashion line with her, frequently tricks friends to take photographs for free, or let her stay over for free and so on. Then the very moment these friends leave the room Annika talks shit about them and airs out their dirty laundry like they never helped her.
As long as Mai is somewhat useful to her she will just keep the shit talk in private to friends that Mai don't know well. She did the same thing to Mara before the conflict came into public view.
Imagine if everyone stayed home from work every time it was too cold to get off the couch/ out of bed.
Girl needs a massive reality check.
Somebody on this thread called it WEEKS ago. Sorry for blogposting but I remember showing up to a FREEZING cold college building every day because there was actual consequences if I didn't. This girl's never been held accountable for anything or is so triggered
by the ONE job she had when she was like, 19.
I've seen this too. Orlee is a jewish woman in a relationship with a nonbinary person.
But when cash and clout is involved she will cozy up to chuds.
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I don't understand Ruadhan. He constantly ebegs about needing to be given stuff and how he can't afford to support himself. Which is fair enough. But then he also constantly brags about getting money and owning boogie shit.
I think it's still best summed up in him needing to ebeg to afford an exterminator. So he made a video accusing IBF and Kaya of ebegging to attract attention to it.
And yes, he's right about it. But it also makes him look like an absolute hypocrite.
Anyway, just a little something to keep in mind next time he starts a gofundme.
In his mind, it doesn't apply to him. I've seen somewhere, I think his instagram, he saying something like "yaaas poor disabled queer trans comunist people deserve to spend too" like he's being super comunist and against the rich by also having nice things, fuck the status quo!
He sees himself as a cultured person who is unfortunately poor and has to ask people to help him, and they do because he is awesome and they agree with everything he says. He is also trve goth.
He sees other youtube goths like IBF and TT as: rich privileged fake goths who get undeserved money and attention by saying unimportant things online just to shill for pseudo goth brands. They don't need or deserve this money because they are posers.
So to him,the difference is as clear as a bright blue skye!
Before anyone says this is WK, I don't like Rhuadan at all. Before he was being mentioned here he was already picking stupid neverending fights in r/goth and being very obnoxiously irritating and caught my attention. You guys should read all his posts on reddit one day
She says her mother is still contractually obligated to somebody toxic
she let into her life while an alcoholic. I'm guessing that would be her ex who tried to poison her. But how would that work? Employment or something?
Wait, you think people on benefits don't pay taxes?
Disabillity, and the deductables that come with it, vary from country to country. In the US there are even state, and sometimes county variables to consider. But whatever the situation may be, disabillitybenefits usually land you at or below the poverty line, and would qualify you for some kind of refund.
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Don't know if she's a cow or not but this woman appeared to me on IG…
odd post seeing as she's literally on a pretty good path when it comes to alcohol and drugs. Sounds like you've got some personal vendetta going on.
I'll always wonder why people who live at home and don't have a standard job keep getting attacked on here. None of your business who pays for their lifestyle innit. Unless it's healthy people that are just lazy. But I feel like Dorian would be dead within 2 months of living alone n trying to hold down a normie job
yeah, I guess it's an american thing, their parents kick them out as soon as they're 18. In Dorian's case it's pretty obvious that she isn't capable of living by herself in absolutely any way. Not that parents HAVE TO accept lazy kids at their home forever but Dorian is legit that fucked up. She tried living by herself and it didn't come out great, so I guess it really beat her down and she spiraled into… this bizarre excuse of a person. She's bizarre and absurd and completely nuts but I feel sorry for her, that's one complicated human being and I honestly don't see her getting better any time soon. When I thought she was acting less crazy she is like "surprise! I've been having a rich social and sexual life with the ghosts in my room the whole time".
So I guess it is pathetic to live with your parents if you're normal, if you're this crazy, maybe it's for the best…
I usually only have a problem with it if people live with their parents when they have the option to not do so, and they make their parents practically or financially responsible for them.
Dorian doesn't seem like she could manage on her own. Lots of people can't. She also helps her parents with physical tasks around the house.
What usually does bug me is when people are able to live on their own and just find it convenient to leech off mummy and daddy. Especially if they ebeg or scam on top of it and then just blow their money on nonsense. People like Heather Sparkles for instance.
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Fagsfar will be releasing a new album soon. Prepare for even more dogwhistling white supremacist bullshit if the description is anything to go by.
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Photo for the post for those interested.
My eyes are tired from work but it looks like he dyed his beard red brown???? Looks like some of Lauren’s shit ha.
If you've watched someone for so long it kind of, even if it's unplanned, becomes somewhat parasocial, so yes, I guess that makes it personal.
I'm not gonna feel bad for someone who has done this completely to herself. I won't take 'autism' as an excuse either, that's a terrible excuse to be a failure of a person.
That's just weak and I'm sick and tired of people (*not just dorian, I just see it a lot) using their autism as a shield for them doing downright stupid shit. It also just denegrades anyone with autism who is just living a good life for themselves, actually trying.
She herself and herself alone to thank for her addiction. shrugs
She doesn't take help from outside sources, because she only wants to hear herself blab about everything, so I would not feel bad if she ever does end up out on the street at some point (though ofcourse I'd much rather prefer she'd actually get professional help in an institution), it'd be some nice self reflection. What else would even help at this point.
And yeah, she's good with her words and must be a nice person, sure, but if you've followed her long enough you know she's been making excuses during that sloppy alcohol phase as well, as to why this was okay for her to do in a lot of those videos, just as an example. She's still doing the same thing. Must be nice if you get to choose to be sick, huh?>>1131598
Right? The misogyny in this family must be absolutely unbearable. One of the reasons I can't take her "transness" seriously. …Not that there's much transness to be taken seriously on the World Wide Web anyways, but that's a whole other topic.
That sounds like a you problem actually. Maybe want to stop hatewatching people?>>1133971
Well, if I trust anybody to handle history responsibly and thoroughly it's this chud. Remember when he kept going on about his viking heritage, but didn't realize the connection between the vikings and the normans?
This will be equal parts fasci and hilarious.
I don't want to destroy your bubble, but addiction is an illness. Some people are prone to it and get addicted to literally everything whereas others don't.
That's why she went from hard drugs to alcoholism to now having this strange relationship with ghosts. Which is just another coping mechanism/addiction if you will. Just unhealthy behaviour all round.
I couldn't care less whether Dorian lives at home, identifies as he or she. This is a gossip forum but I don't think it's gossip to drag someone for their actual illness or their inability to lead a normal life.
Not to wk Dorian, they've been entertaining and sure have done weird/questionable shit. But your reasons for hating them are bullshit.
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Eb pretty much did the same thing she did on Snog marry avoid. Like the other anon said she's struggling to stay relevant. Guess her shitty nose blush and makeup scribbles weren't getting her enough attention. Imo she looks better afterwards, but they could have chosen better clothes. Not that she'll even consider looking descent for a hot min, she has to be the most goff of em all. What happened to the blue mermaid style she branded herself as? Now it's Billie Eyelash green, typical. Bitch doesn't know originality. She just pretends she is kek
In relation to his girlfriend Lauren and their weird friendship with Mara/Psychara, and the dichotomy between their personas and apparent real beliefs. Esp Mara, who claims she isn’t aware of any racism on their part despite them clearly being involved with white nationalism.
I actually thought about crossposting the couple on either the Tradwhores thread or the Viking thread, but I didn’t want to just hijack a thread with random cows so let it be.
Yes. Like >>1134755
said. It's the psychara connection. They use her for clout. And she keeps insisting that she has no idea, even after some Anon cowtipped and publicly confronted her with the facts. Which is in stark contrast to her super inclusive persona.
>>1133977>Right? The misogyny in this family must be absolutely unbearable.
Is that why she made that very misogynistic video blaming female rape victims
for their own rape and saying women have privilege because they can wear make up?
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>begging on reddit for cat food
>drops gubermint money on acid
Yup. Chunky pedo gravey.
There's plenty to hate about Emily, don't get me wrong. But some of the posts have this weird desperate quality to them that just has hagraven written all over it.
I have no high or extremely low opinion of Emily since like you said, she's not as a bad as some of the other cows mentioned here. She's a poser for sure but after reading your comment, you did make me ponder something. So we have the posers like Emily, Kaya, and Jake and then someone like IBF but they all share something in common and that is their OTT looks.
Is it farfetched to think that the reason these people go for these OTT looks is because they try to cover up just how dull and boring they actually are? They all don't seem to have any shred of a personality or interest except for their extreme looks. I mean with Dorian, she's annoying but I have to admit that at least she has these stories to share (even if they are cringe). I dunno, just something I was thinking about with these people.
I don't care.>>1135233
I gotta admit, I don't know too much about Ruadhan (tried to watch at one point, but meh), so this is purely mostly superficial, but he just gives me the creeps for some reason?
Again, a reach, and I know I sound like a wk here. Kaya has a million hobbies and interests. She’s very into arts and crafts, nature, kawaii and alt fashion, gaming. She would probably be into these things outside of looking like a psycho toddler. Emily is into Disney, alt shit, body mods and her pets and actually has some goals and aspirations. The problem isn’t that these people don’t have any interests, it’s that they often pursue them in a childish way or they’re outshined by their dumb cow behaviour.
I see your point, but this just isn’t a revelation or milk, sorry.
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You have shit taste if you don't see what's wrong with this>>1136759
Being interested in shitty piercings while giving others shitty piercings kek
At least Jake trying to do music is more than these other cows try to do. No wk because his music blows but at least he tries to do something different from Kaya moping, bitching and eternally unboxing and Emily hoarding animals and holding on to her childhood (acting like an overgrown fat gross kid) and Freya with her country hopping guy using money grabbing crap. These cows make me physically ill
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Mai’s fashion style has become so boring and lackluster these past few years. Compared to her outfits back in her tumblr era, this is just lazy styling- a frumpy yoga mom holding a cup of tea or a book in every damn photo.
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I'm so glad to see this cow on here! I've known about that trainwreck for years. I'm good friends with the lovely girl she had a falling out with a few years ago so I'll give you some tea but I don't have reciepts because this is all irl. We know the same people, go to the same pubs and I've seen her at Horrorcon. Emily is a wanker. She stopped talking to my mate because she didn't like that someone else was getting attention. They were close friends but my friend was just an extention of Emily and a way to make her look better and give her more content [getting matching unicorn tats, sleepovers whatever]. Then my mate shaved her head for charity and got into burlesque modeling and people started to notice her and Emily couldn't handle not being the center of attention so she cut her off and made her out to be some kind of toxic person that used Emily for her "fame". I've seen her at events strutting with her head up expecting people to fawn over her. She had a meltdown about too many people dying their hair blue so she dropped her "Emily tattooed mermaid facade" and yes like another anon said she went green because of Billie Eilish not because she's a fan but because people are fans of Billie's green so she is indeed piggybacking off that while still pretending to be one of a kind. Her main goal in life is to be famous and goth even though she's not goth nor anything special like she thinks she is. Thats why she's doing more outlandish makeup looks trying to start new trends and its a joke between me and my mates how desperate she looks jumping on every bandwagon to be relevant. Around here she's more or less a nobody. I went to the pub she worked at with some of my other mates and she's just a fat minger but she dares talk about other females being slags [but in person where no one can screenshot her true self] when she's the biggest slag of anyone! So glad to see her here and I wish more people knew what a huge arsehole she is. I wish she'd just piss off and become as irrelvent as she deserves to be.
but shouldn't Mai and Annika have their rich partners and partners parents to support them?
("nooo we are such successfull indepented women" - like someone else wrote a while ago, nothing against letting yourself be supported by others.. but saying it is all your OWN hard work really rubs me the wrong way)
Cat really isn’t as milky as the others, but she also whines about people stealing her art and talks shit out the side of her mouth but can’t just say what the fuck is going on lol.
I have a feeling Mai is toning down her look to appeal to normies who like the goth/fantasy elf witch mage aesthetic to get more business. Or she’s grown out of needing to look like a poor man’s Melisandre, it happens.
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Kaya's latest excuse.
How dare other people use their studio space when she is trying to record!
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>can barely see adam’s face
>trying so hard to be the regal red queen
>instead looking like a big berry with teeth
>”outing” is just code for, “we went to another whyte pryde meeting in the woods”
>inb4 these two eventually just come out of the closet and start with the aryan trad couple/save albion bullshit
Oh my god. Her actual neighbours interupt recording at home. Her studio neighbours interupt her filming in the space she supposedly rents for filming?? As if we needed more proof that this studio was just to gain some control over her life and space away from Fake. This girl needs to get a fucking grip, invest in some kind of noise cancelling software or soundproofing for the walls. So many people succeed on youtube with so much less than this cunt has.
(Sorry for rant/blogpost)
everything in this video just reminds me of dorian
also why does orlee have a star of david tattoo on her chest lmao
As in, of jewish descent.
Also the kind of demonology she practises incorporates elements of jewish cultural practises.
Though the fuckdemons are all hers
It really is the same kind of shit Dorian is on about. Except explicitly "demonic". Topkek.
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Orlee has a star of Babalon with seven points which is associated with Thelema - rather than a star of David. They do look v similar though.
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"Sorry I can't come to work today, it's too cold"
"Sorry I can't work today, it's too loud "
"Sorry I won't be in today, because of the government"
kek I just remembered her 3 day attempt working at Lush or some similar smelly soap store and she quit/got fired because her feet hurt after standing for 8 hours and it was all *~just too hard~* >>1139434
She could just order some foam online and make her own soundproof panelling as a little craft project, but it's more likely that the sheer effort of browsing a few websites might leave her exhausted and uninspired for days.
She is. Though ADHD meds are kind of tricky and it can take a while to find the ones that work for you.
Which is why it would be far more beneficial for her if she created some kind of structure to her day and a routine for herself. ADHD is one thing. But Kaya also does nothing to improve her situation.
Yeah ADHD is just Kaya's golden ticket for validating her laziness.
Girl is almost 30 and has had 2 jobs, both that she couldn't keep for more than a few weeks at the most.
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Is she really taking them tho?
I'll go out on a limb here and guess she has no intention of taking medication properly to help herself.
Not putting down ADHD sufferers here but since getting her diagnosis Kaya has used this as a way to define herself and excuse all of her lazy entitled materialistic behaviour.
If medication helps with this what will she have to excuse this in the future?
Plenty of people control their ADHD and live productive and happy lives.
Nah, you’re 100% right. Also lots of people with ADHD can talk or joke about how sometimes the symptoms (like laziness etc) are obnoxious, without them actually being obnoxious people.
Kaya literally doesn’t have a fucking job. She never films, and even if she did, she has a whole studio with lighting now. Who the fuck cares if her sleeping schedule is temporarily fucked?? You know what else fucks your sleep further: sitting in the house and in front of screens all day and never having a routine or going outside. I get that she has SAD, but I don’t get how a grown adult can stay a blob for so long and not just get sick of it.
You’re right anon, she just uses it as an excuse to complain. I thought she might make some self care changes when she was diagnosed, but I’m not surprised in the slightest she hasn’t.
+1 anon. Who the fuck cares if her sleep schedule gets fucked? She doesn't fucking do anything anyway. She doesn't work, she doesn't go to school, she hardly uploads worthwhile content, she pretty much never leaves her house unless it's for food runs. I mean she doesn't have a life. She's as you said, a "blob" who dos fuck all and she's in a spot where she can have a temporary fucked up sleep schedule and it wouldn't change her life much at all.
What I find absolutely fucking mind boggling is her fans who enable her. How the hell can they not see the truth about their role-model? She's a laze about who is taking advantage of their hospitality with their constant donating. I can't believe I'm saying this but even Stumpy is at the very least somewhat more productive. I have to wonder if he is bothered that his girlfriend is such a lazy ass and for all we know, he is probably making more YouTube money than she is these days and whether he feels like he's now wasting time with this sloth of a woman.
I still think it's gonna be cringe but I'll give her some props that at least this time she's using music that sounds Goth unlike the last video.>>1142328
It's been speculated that aside from Kaya getting some ad revenue from her videos as well as her Patreon, many believe that her parents help her with her living expenses. I don't think that she would be able to live as comfortably as she does if it was just her YouTube money and Patreon donations alone.
You mean cowtipping?
You know, the thing one should not do?
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God, I absolutely hate Madame Absinthe's outfits. They're so tacky, expensive, and are super 2005 deathrock revival.
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Oh I agree. I'm not saying it was a good thing when she included shit like Emo, Psychobilly, Pastel Goth, and Gothic Lolita in those previous videos. All I meant is that I'm not even surprised she hasn't learned anything from the criticism she got with those old videos. Because if she wants to include any and every Dark Alternative style into a video, she shouldn't be calling it "Goth" and should just call it "40 Years of Alternative Fashion". >>1143031
Yeah her outfits are pretty hit/miss tbh. I do like some of them but others feel a little too costumey or tacked on. I actually don't mind that she has a 2005 Deathrock revival vibe tbh, just not that look in particular lol.
If it was "40 Years of Alternative Fashion", it would definitely be less criticized. Liisa's go-to defense for this was always "It's Goth STYLE!", completely forgetting that many Goth styles were inspired by Goth musicians and it's not a valid
excuse to justify adding "pastel goth".
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from psychara's ig story, presumably re: maimagi and manicmoth.
i feel like they would all benefit from either being forthright about whatever happened, or by dropping it entirely. they all seem to not be able to go a few months without these vague jabs at each other or references to each other.
Same. It's not my style, but I don't mind it. And considering that a lot of her commision work seems to be for burlesque performers and dragqueens, dressing like the human incarnation of the word 'festooned' is probably good advertising.>>1143341>my friends now are amazing.
Like the person pushing the myth of white genocide? The one using you for clout to mainstream their ideas about pure aryan bloodlines?
I have no doubt that Mai and Annika were shitty friends. But her current situation is not my idea of an upgrade.
“ Many people wrongly believe that with the passage of time, cohabiting couples enjoy the same rights as married couples. There is an illusion that living together for a number of years earns a couple the titles of ‘common law husband and wife’ which gives them the same legal rights as married couples or those in civil partnerships, although this is not legally the case. This misconception can unfortunately lead to a cohabiting couple being left in a vulnerable position should the relationship break down.”
From Life Law NI website.
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4 weeks after her studio makeover and still not one video…
This poor dude.
How dare these FEMALES label him an incel and block him just because he keeps graphically describing his sexual fantasies about them on an app made for teenagers.
Bunch of sheeple SJWs.
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Who is trusting KVD with guns when she can’t even remember to blow out candles. Is her husband even allowed near guns as a former gangbanger and incarcerated person?
This person CAN'T be meantally sound. Who stops everything in their life for the most common stuff happening around them?
That's why I say Dorian can't live alobe, because she'd be worse than this, they both are completely incapable of dealing with life and should have supervision. Kaya should be either working and loving normally or living with her parents and getting treatment because this isn't normal at all.>>1141547
Just take them 12/12 hours of it's 2 times a day. Or put an alarm for every 24h if it's once a day, you completely stupid fuck>>1142328
I'm pretty sure Kaya and Jake are supported by Kaya's parents and use their youtube/twitch/patreon money only for their personal expenses, hence all their stupid superfluous luxuries>>1143796
It's called life, the prize for getting through the day without having a meltdown is getting through the day without having a meltdown.>>1144457
She is insanely rich and never was accused of killing someone, if she can pay for all the documentation they just allow you in some states but I might be wrong. Now, Prayers is a different story… there's no way in hell he's legally getting a gun. She keeps getting more and more Karen Von D every time I hear about her
Even there it involves a background check and a mandatory five day waiting period.
This whole "guns with bankaccounts" thing was popularised by Michael Moore in "bowling for columbine." And although he made some pretty accurate points about US gunculture, he also used a lot of creative editing.
If her creepy husband has a felony record, he will not be allowed to own a gun. And it would constitute a felony for her to buy guns for him. But there would be no way to prove that unless he was caught carrying the guns outside the house. And even then it would be mostly on him, because it would be nearly impossible to prove that she gave him permission to carry it, rather than her just leaving it around and him taking it.
But given their moaning about the "tehrannical gov'ment", I doubt they would care.
> Unfriended Ruadhan for being retarded, understandable, who wants to be friends with someone who makes fun of people dying and doesn't care?
You sure about that? In one of her last streams she bended ovr backwards to get him unmuted but it was stil bein glitch. And when did Ruadh make fun of ppl dying? That sounds weirdly specific but nuthin to back it up with>>1100788
She and Red had no falling out.
They're still FB friends. He had an anxiety meltdown when all pandemic hell broke loose and got put on mute.>>1101305>It's totally fine to not like Angela. Wish people would just be honest instead of making things up.
Yeh, but what would ppl here have to say when there's nuthin else to say? lol>>1101580>What would Ruadhan gain from stirring up shit by trying to throw Angela under the bus? I know he's a bit off his rocker but I'm not sure if he'd try to pull something like that on Angela
Crazy ≠ stupid >>1101604>Attention, clout. You could ask that same question when he was obsessing over Freyja and Kaya a few months ago.
That was two years ago. Change your calendar anon
And if that was the case it still wouldn't make sense to do that on an anon imageboard
How would making up vague shit on here draw attention to his own shit? He ain't stupid but your ascribing some machivellian genius I doubt hes capable of >>1102132>He did recently get someone to buy him a new folding bike though.
I thought he said that was from the stimulus last year
Unless you got deets that says different >>1102887
Red is actually trans, tho
Sorry for picking nits but its hard to argue w/ his voice, hair and massive scarrs when Dorian has a habit of almost nipslips for fun and profit>>1102979>I'm not from the US. Is it normal to get this many prescriptions? It can't be.
Depending on the issues, that isn't uncommon in the States or Europe. But it looks like its mostly lower dosage a few times a day
Plus a couple herbal supplements and vitamins >>1102990>The impression he is trying to leave you with is "Ruadhan is very sad and sick and deserves charity." Not "Ruadhan is on enougj (pseudo) opiates to knock out a small elephant.
I didn't know ibrophen was an opiate>>1103579>Why does Ruadhan show up semi-naked in so many of his videos? Does he think it will get him fans? Because I don't think it's working
Sounding like a porly sequenced loop, but I thought it was all his trans surgeries (shrug)
Plus his trunk is kinda saggy. I think he mentioned having lost about 80lbs over the last few yrs.
Nothing I'm tgat into looking at but it makes sense, if that's why, I guess>>1103873>he was filming it while on the toilet and I think he called the video "Toilet thoughts" or something like that. Who the fuck is gonna watch that shit? He's fucking delusional.
He has a series of those
It started up around the time Aytakk and his friends were trying to make hashtag-toiletgoth a thing on insta — which is kinda clever in that context I guess>>1105995> can't believe you think ban evasion is something to brag about. Kids these days…
Ruadhan? Is this you? lol
>Theres a reason people keep asking. They have no chemistry, he's a nasty little shit to her when he does appear in videos, in old vlogs on his channel he'd let her lag behind as he addressed the camera. He doesnt seem at all affectionate and he has openly stated he prefers skinny girls. What more proof do you need Kaya?
I sorta feel sorry for her. He's clearly not that into her anymore and is just stringing her along until he's found another Sure Mark he can mooch from. Meanwhile she's totally clueless and depressed - which makes her more oblivious, so when he finally dumps her it'll hit her extra hard>>1109338>They are going to get awfully lonely in Vevay seeing how they always have a revolving door of family, friends, and guests at their current home in LA.
Those two are going to ruin that beautiful old Victorian, I can pretty much smell the rancid patchouli oils and tacky black paint from here>>1109891>Since she isn’t completely leaving California behind, doesn’t that mean that she still has to suffer the tyrannical government and pay taxes on her home and business?
Your asking for covidiots to be consistent and make sense. Thar be dragons, I tells ya>>1110842>Holy uncanny valley
I did a double take @ that name — isn't she only 26 or so? How the hell did her face age another fifteen yrs? She looks RLLY old>>1111549>I wouldn't say outed. She's talked a lot about posting pics on pro-ana forums as a teenager. But I don't think that was ever denied.
Yep. Dorian is pretty upfront about having been on the old pro-ana forums in the early 2000s. Doesn't mean they AREN'T doing all these vids lately about the ana shit because of Eugenia being a current YouTube hot topic.>>1119576>Pretty sure he goes to brothels while on vacation.
He's also got a long reputation for leching on underage girls at conventions, and if they protest he has a habit of doing the onstage equiv of vague posting to shame them for being prudes. Real stand-up guy, that Voltaire is!/s The fact that Angela still seems to put on a nice opinion of him is the only thing that bugs me about her>>1129479>don't understand Ruadhan. He constantly ebegs about needing to be given stuff and how he can't afford to support himself. Which is fair enough. But then he also constantly brags about getting money and owning boogie shit.
Don't know where you live, but that tax return amount isn't a lot of money, not even in the Midwest. People all over the US were complaining last year about the $1200 stimulus not being enough, and $1125 is clearly less than that
Plus his "boogie shit" is almost always accompanied by a story about scouring eBay and/or hagling down. He claims he used to go with his mom who was a social worker and a antiques buyer for rich people, so if that's true then it would make sense if he's getting a good price on things.
And last time someone here showed he was ebegging to r/Assistance was over a month ago and the timestamped post said it was made on Reddit abt 3month before it was shared here. And that post was just to find someone local to him so that he could scan a birthday check to deposit to his bank — y'all are acting like he was asking for a hundred dollars or whatever. And looks like maybe the last time he asked someone on Reddit to feed his cats was about a year ago —some people get a change in finances, and one of his streams he said he's on a coupe of low-income programs now – so that means he spend less on w/ev bikls and having more of his disability to spend on his interests?
I know time is relative and the pandemic is making this even more apparent but this is like that tard making up shit about Angela. It's either vague shit or taking something kinda stupid that the Ockham razor can make sense of>>1132626>Disability is considered income and rent is considered an expense that is deductible.
Yep. Social Security isn't taxable income, but if he's filling his Patreon, KDP (for his books), and Bandcamp/Distrokid papers like he's supposed to, all that plus the rent means he files taxes like everyone else. Even w/o the patreon, etc, collecting disability and paying rent means that you should (but aren't rly obligated to) file your taxes>>1134087>That sounds like a you problem actually. Maybe want to stop hatewatching people
Wouldn't taking that advice kill this whole board? Lol>>1134679>Not saying fagsfail isn't a cow, but why exactly is he in this thread and not the "real vikings" thread? He doesn't really seem alt to me
I been wondering that too. My guess is his connection to Psychara's crowd so that makes him altcow adjacent? >>1134876
I'm not gonna spend the 17+ hours looking for whatever recent stream he mentioned that was leftover tabs from his 2019 birthday, but this was easier to find and supports y vague recollection https://www.instagram.com/p/B0ZBB--H-ad/?igshid=1f5s3legeg8t9
I guess this outs me as one of his "strange ppl" lol but this is that Ockham razor thing I said. Y'all being mad about shit you invented yrself lol>>1137706>You have shit taste if you don't see what's wrong with this
I see that, and I think of this:https://www.facebook.com/103846801531673/posts/110709600845393/>>1143368>dressing like the human incarnation of the word 'festooned' is probably good advertising.
IHNI why but this is probably the best way to summarise Miss E's look. She seems to have a great sense of humour about things, and I'm tempted to recommend she use a version of this for when she needs to reprints business cards! llol
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made her first video a month after she finished the studio and she's doing it in her attic, wtf?
And when she does make a video she just talks about everything she's been tweeting about just to crank out a video with a sponsor.
Also is proud of waking up at 6 ot 7am as she thinks it is being "awake before the rest of the world".
What planet is she on seriously.
samefag but peep Fake’s black paint on the neck technique to hide her double chin. Ironically her body didn’t look bad at all in that onesie pic she posted. It’s been what, 4 years since the weight gain and its shown absolutely no sign of shifting??
Imagine if she’d worked on her mental health at all in that time. I genuinely think she might get at least a little more clout as a body positive influencer, people eat Dre Ronayne up. But she’s so desperate to look anorexic after all this time, it’s embarrassing.
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The studio neighbours partying, the government, THE RAIN!!!!
Why is everyone trying to stop Kaya making amazing content??
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Instead she, a 28 year old woman, is spending time making Spacehey profiles
Using a banner where she's a good fourty pounds lighter.
Can't be bothered, right?
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Kaya: I will not
list goth artists I like when people question my credibility as Goth influencer
Also Kaya, when a nostalgic Myspace clone has appeared so she can relive her heyday:
The fact Jack Off Jill is first suggests she really hasn't listened to any new music since 2005.
Yeah no, this bitch isn't a Goth. Aside from SOM, it's pretty clear that she doesn't actually listen to the Goth genre and it's not surprising why she's so insecure about her "G0FF iMaGe" because she knows deep down she isn't one.
I don't understand why people like her can't just be content with being considered "Alternative" because that's literally what they are. I don't understand why she cares so much about G0FF cred when the actual Goth scene is so niche and it'll never get you A-List celebrity status like these posers think it will.>>1152219>still cling so hard to being the spooky edgy girl
I mean if she wants to still be considered that, I suppose that's fine but I don't understand why she can't just be a spooky girl who likes pop music. Nothing wrong with liking pop music and you don't need to be Goth to be spooky or edgy.
Observing Kaya makes me feel like shit because she just truly pisses me off with how much of a whiny lazy ass she is. I feel bad because I know you shouldn't judge people. I know that people have their own struggles that they have to work themselves through but Kaya just truly gets under my skin and I don't even know her. I just can't with her. She has the most easiest position in life right now where she doesn't have to do fuck all and can actually be pursuing personal aspirations and dreams but she's too shiftless to get off her ever-so growing ass to actually get things done.
You don't need to go out in public to go shopping (especially in a pandemic), just fucking shop online. You have a whole house to do simple workouts. You have the internet at your fingertips to look up healthy recipes for weight loss help. And finally she doesn't film actual noteworthy videos, she doesn't need a fancy new space to do her fucking unboxing or whining about her life videos.
I honestly feel like she really is on her last legs and she doesn't know it. What's gonna happen when she gets to her mid 30s, early 40s? Will she still be living on easy street? Will her fans still continue to financially support her slothful ass?
Anyway rant over. Sorry, she just pisses me off and I wish she didn't but here we are.
I was about to ask. What are her livestreams like? I have a feeling that they are boring and dull but hey, maybe I could be wrong. Does she actually talk about anything interesting or worth listening to? >>1151180
I really think she should just get a therapist because you're right. Even before the pandemic, she was having depression. Part of me think her problem is just like Kaya where they have no direction in life. They don't work nor go to school and they don't have a side business to focus on. In short, they have way too much time on their hands and aren't doing anything with it which is only worsening their depression.
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both completely unrecognisable. she must have gained 150 pounds at least, remember she is tall
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So brand new…these bikes are eight thousand pounds.
Yet they've begged and raised kickstarters that never came to fruition in the past.
It shocks me they have this income yet still insist on renting,honestly.
Yeah. I keep forgetting she's tall. She's stumpy in my mind. But all that fat is spread out over a gangly frame. Which should make it easier for her to lose weight.>>1153968
Clearly more passionate about the bike than he is about Kaya. Wonder if he'll drive off into the sunset and leave her ass.
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You really think its that much? She doesnt look +150 in her recent pic here. I know shes tall but still, 150 would be a lot.
Motofag here, most brand new bikes are financed just like cars, but since they're much less, the payments are also much less. This would be maybe $150usd/mo. Not defending Fake, but it's unlikely he went to a dealer and plunked down 9k.
Ugly bike, btw.
Saged for no milk but had to jump in.
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She's 5'11, it is WAY more than 80 pounds, minimum 100 she's gained. She used to be very skinny, now… I'd say she was originally 120-130 lbs and now, close to 250.
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Just to show how huge she is especially in the shoulders
Agreed. But then again, think about it this way – whining about having it sOo0 hard and shoving sponsored shit is the only things she's got. She's incredibly boring, cringeworthy, and the looks that she eventually summons out of her arse are subpar at best. If you take away the whining, there's nothing left basically. Whining is her entire "content". It's sad, really. With all the opportunities she's got.>>1154006>Wonder if he'll drive off into the sunset and leave her ass.
Not gonna champion Fake, but if he did do that, well, can't really judge him, tbh. There's only so much whining and watching paint dry a person can take. Plus, now that he has more subs, what is really the point anymore…
Thanks for clarifying anon. I was debating whether I should watch her stream one day but what you just shared sounds pretty boring. And 2 hours long of it? No thanks. You say that she most likely does it to get donations, do a lot of people actually donate to her??
And of course she wouldn't like the true interesting questions such as the status of her pets or plans of matrimony. Though part of me thinks that she's trying to scope out a Scottish hubby so she can move via visa again…
Thanks anon, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way about someone who I don't know personally. I agree with everything you said as well. Again it comes down to her having so many opportunities to live her life but she chooses to not do shit and then complain, complain, complain about it when it was totally in her power to change.
It's very true that to call her YT channel a "job" would be an outright lie. Bitching and moaning about your life while doing half-ass, tediously dull unboxing videos is not a job. I hate to say it but Stumpy is actually treating his YT channel more like a job.
You're welcome. Yes, people do donate to her, I can't remember exactly how much she gets per stream, but it's a couple hundred or so. There's always that one person who gives a good hand out.
I've actually thought the same thing on the waifu visa, I know other anons have brought it up, too. She's desparate to move and I can totally see her dumping Barnaby again to try to get into the UK.>>1154010
Seriously, both of them looked so much better when they were younger. It should be the other way around lol.
I thought she was 5'9?
how many pictures has she taken at this same spot in the mall?
she dresses up to go to the mall like a 13 year old, but shes 30?
Stick at it Anon. You got this. Thanks for sharing and possibly confirming milk.
I’ve been autistically hatewatching some of Fake and Kaya’s videos, and I hate to say it, but around 2 years ago it seemed like Jake genuinely WAS more happy and comfortable with who he was and his looks. Kaya has just spiralled more and more.
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So now his “snacks” are posting thirst compilations of Jake. It’s a matter of time…
Gotcha. So she has suckers donating to her too it seems. It's a pity but it's their money at the end of the day. Yeah she seems to hate living in New Zealand since it's not really a fancy place to be in and I can't see her wanting to stay there for too long. If suspicious are true that she may be scoping out a Scottish hubby and she actually succeeds, I really hope Barnaby doesn't take her ass back when it blows up in her face. >>1154458
Kaya was already exhibiting her lazy behavior much before Stump's channel got traction. She was doing half ass unboxing videos by the butt loads but they were incredibly dul. I'm actually starting to believe that even back in her earlier years her channel really didn't offer anything worthwhile. But yeah you may be right that as Stump's channel was seeing more success, it probably further enabled Kaya to be even more unproductive than she already had been because Stump would be the breadwinner of their relationship.>>1154477
28 actually but yeah.
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He sounds like a spoilt, bratty child
>>1154745>She was doing half ass unboxing videos by the butt loads but they were incredibly dul. I'm actually starting to believe that even back in her earlier years her channel really didn't offer anything worthwhile.
That's what I'm thinking too… If you go way back to her old videos, it's the same boring, awkward, random babbling and complaining, just overall non-substance… can't even bare to watch a video till the end, even through they're pretty short by today's 'standards'.
I'm starting to think it's not really the lazy, it's just that she's got this dull whiny personality. At this point, I don't really understand why she's so clingy onto her YTer status, she's so boring and annoying, it's sad. Can't she just go back and have some picture blog? Become a full-time goff insta influencer or some shit? You don't have to display your entire body if you're insecure. Yet it'll spare everyone and herself from the constant complaints over not 'being able to' do videos… Like, it's such a simple solution – can't be arsed to film videos – don't, earn money / e-goff cred elsewhere. The world will only thank you.
Right that too. You can eat healthy but if the portion sizes are too big, you're over consuming and like you said, it defeats the purpose of weight loss. >>1155258>That's what I'm thinking too… If you go way back to her old videos, it's the same boring, awkward, random babbling and complaining, just overall non-substance… can't even bare to watch a video till the end, even through they're pretty short by today's 'standards'.
I actually went back through her channel to see some of the videos I did watch back when I was a fan. The first video of hers I watched that made me intrigued was her "Disney tag" video because I was a Disney fan and being naive teenage me, I thought it was cool to see another "Goth" talk about Disney. And then there was the "what not to say to Goths" video (ironic looking back since she's the biggest poser of 'em all) but aside from those, her channel was always about unboxing some sort of product and I started remembering that I actually didn't watch a ton of her videos at all because I was not really into haul or unboxing videos. But you're absolutely right, 99% of the videos she had are the same she does now, she was just skinnier back then.
> I'm starting to think it's not really the lazy, it's just that she's got this dull whiny personality. At this point, I don't really understand why she's so clingy onto her YTer status, she's so boring and annoying, it's sad. Can't she just go back and have some picture blog? Become a full-time goff insta influencer or some shit? You don't have to display your entire body if you're insecure. Yet it'll spare everyone and herself from the constant complaints over not 'being able to' do videos… Like, it's such a simple solution – can't be arsed to film videos – don't, earn money / e-goff cred elsewhere. The world will only thank you.
I think you may be right about the personality that is what's aggravating. IBF annoys me but I will give her this. Even when she was doing her unboxing videos, she at the very least could fake an engaging personality. I don't know why but there was just something about the way she was when showcasing stuff that kept me watching even though I didn't care for haul videos. And then she did way too many of them and I got bored but that's neither here nor there lol. Point is Kaya is just an whiny, boring, dull as rocks oersonality that is not engaging. I think the only reason why I subbed to her all those years ago was because I was being shallow. I thought she looked pretty and fit what I thought was a "Goth look" at the time and it was enough for teen me to want to watch what I can but just like everyone else here, finally saw her for the true person she is.
>constant complaints over not 'being able to' do videos
Complains about not being able to make videos while she's making a video… lol
>Become a full-time goff insta influencer or some shit? You don't have to display your entire body if you're insecure. Yet it'll spare everyone and herself from the constant complaints over not 'being able to' do videos… Like, it's such a simple solution – can't be arsed to film videos – don't, earn money / e-goff cred elsewhere.
I agree. It's obvious she's too assed to make videos because of her laziness so just became Insta-G0ff and post pictures since she seems to be able to do that no problem.
No. Your body has different hormonal responses to different foods so even if you eat more healthy foods its still better than eating a small amount of sugary foods.>>1154991
That's because he is.
I'm sorry anon but hell no. That shit is not Goth music, not in the slightest and it's not because the singer is rapping but because the sound is not Goth at all, it's just Hip-Hop music. It's dark yes but it's still Hip-Hop, just Hip-Hop with a darker tone. Here's a tip, just because a song has a dark feel to it, it doesn't automatically make it Goth.>>1155502
This is true. Eating fairly big quantities of leafy greens is not fattening at all however if you put salad dressing on it… Yeah. I can't remember if Kaya actually ate her veggies and salads plain with no fixings but something tells me that she would.
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>Only blocked the name so they don't gain any followers from me
>ONLY blocked… so they DON'T GAIN FOLLOWERS… from ME
Damn, how do you fit through the doorframe with all that self-inflated ego?
So, you're saying you concealed the name of fan of yours not because they were a wackjob defending a piece of trash, thus potentially spreading potentially dangerous misinformation (in which case her following would actually benefit from knowing the username, so that they can further avoid their sperging),
but you did that SOLELY so that a small noname page of 17 posts (probably just a personal page, not anyone aspiring to be internet-fam0us like some people) wouldn't, god forbid, gain ANY of the millions upon millions of your followers? REALLY?
Who do you think you are, Kim Kardashian? You ought to leave the house more often to shed all of that delusion
She pretends to be a gentle, goofy oaf but then her old nasty personality will pop out randomly, exposing the bitch within.
If she was still slim and pretty she would be unbearably monstrous.
Exactly. If it was the 'safety' of her followers she cared about, she could've just blocked it out and posted the rest of the ss as it is, no comments. The wtf on top is enough input.
But no, she couldn't contain herself not to add that little comment in that specific wording to expose her true colours.
You'll probably get frustrated. There's more non-goth than goth in there. It's laughable, but really cringey at some parts. Liisa's definitely a panderer. She even added in soundcloud rap, the thing real goths tried to fight off and still are. I don't see anywhere where she labels her music as "goth", so there was no reason to include it other than pandering to the misinformed and possibly Jake fans.>>1155848
The last one @itsroxyvail really stood out in a bad way and looking at their instagram, doesn't participate in the goth community. She's an egirl that takes pictures with ahegao faces. Why include people that are not in the scene if this is supposedly a 40 years of "goth" video?
I would say this version is worse. At least it doesn't look like it's going to be viral like the original video.
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Are Froyo and Mr. Doormat still together? He's been posting about this goth streaming thing and it's all women submitting. Knowing what a jealous bitch she is, I don't see her being okay with that. Also does anyone know what the "competition" even is?>>1155457
No, it's not, retard. When ghostmane sounds like she past away, then maybe. >>1155399> deathrocker looks like when hype brands try to copy disrocker jackets> vampire goth> still including gothic lolita> Victorian goth is 2010s???> gothic grunge> everything looks super modern expect for cybergoth which looks dated and tacky as always
I use to enjoy metal ass gaming aswell that's what introduced me to TT and Fake. John was always the best the show didn't survive without him.
I'm sure he briefly started his own channel but I don't know what happened to him.
He was a top guy.
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Why does she even bother to ask?
She excludes kind of everything beforehand and last time she wanted suggestions the aftermath were several stories in which she complained how uninspired the suggestions were and how she already had outfits on a lot of themes and that she could not be bother with kind of every suggested options because she is jot into this and that.
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Also preserving your grandad’s wardrobe, I see. You really can’t make this cringe up.
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What is this lmao
Mara: Dragons! Do my bidding! Go forth and rain fiery death down on Mai and Annika!
Snake: I like to sleep on a warm rock.
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Poor Kaya claiming oppression for opening some boxes a few times a year
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This is skim milk at best, but Razor Candi deleted all of her photos from before July 2020 on ig. Why? Does she want people to pay for all her old stuff now?>>1158296
Those poor snakes though, they're 100% just props to her. Really surprised she doesn't have some $5,000, super special morph.
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I think all women of the area can rest assured, no one wants adora's dusty dry old cooch
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are these bitches coming out of the bitch factory or what
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To those that say Kaya hasn't gained over 100 pounds, look at this! She's unrecognisable in the face especially
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Part 2 Kaya and jake skinny
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You're missing the wrong photo; Certainly doubt she can do this now kek
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Not milk but on the topic of vintage and think Toxic
Tears [who i now call Toxic
Tons], this popped up while looking for old Vampire Freaks cringe. The poser filled arm pit of the internet. Imagine being assiciated with that as a model. Yeah, a gig is a gig but I doubt she made much off this.
Just saw her advertise the fact that she’d posted these on her yt story and CRINGED. I get that people can just be nostalgia posting, especially rn, but they just SCREAM “give me clout for being skinny!!” or weight gain denial. They remind me of how Felice Fawn used to post constantly (“look at me acting fun and being tiny and people picking me up!”)
As for missing times like these, her and Jake could have gone on a fun picnic alone at ANY point during summer lockdown with drinks and snacks and they just…didn’t.
It’s miserable and cringe how much she tries to rope people in with content from almost a decade ago into of putting effort into her content now. I’ll bet it’s another panic move because of Jake’s success, trying to recreate when she used to be popular when she could just be positive about her size now.
Sorry for rant posting.