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This thread covers true crime youtubers and the milk surrounding them (which can be pretty frothy, as certain cases get huge, and attract some of the lowest virtue-signaling clout-chasers, with a goal of mercilessly clickbait tragedies.)
>started as a make-up channel, and began creating true crime content a few years ago.
>creates videos focused on retelling true crime stories on her main channel, as well as co-hosts another podcast with Big Brother 16 winner, Derrick Levasseur.
>comments have speculated Stephanie and Derrick are swingers, because Stephanie designed their merch with pineapples.
>any time she's mildly annoyed about comments, she rants about them at the beginning of her videos (almost guaranteed to be in any follow-up videos in a multipart case, and also the only reason I ever learned that pineapples are associated with swingers.)
>had BLM twitter rage-tweeting at her during the 2020 riots (she spends a lot of time clarifying her misconstrued twitter posts in a main channel upload.)
>gets shit in Guru Gossip after people start thinking she voted for Trump (there is speculation she's very conservative, but won't admit it.)
>her daughter had shown up to whiteknight in Guru Gossip, as well as promote Stephanie's channel in different subreddits related to true crime.
>most of her research is either taken word-for-word from a source, or an elaborate, emotional fanfic she makes up on the spot.
>creates GRWM make-up videos while sensationally retelling true crime stories.
>uses horrific/brutal titles & ridiculous thumbnails while dressed in full glamour and duckface.
>creates mukbang content while sensationally retelling true crime stories.
>uses horrific/brutal titles & ridiculous thumbnails.
>past drama with Nikocado.
>creates videos focused on retelling true crime cases (she's Irish or Welsh, so she yells the whole time.)
>uses extreme titles and thumbnails with her face in the middle.
>creates videos focused on retelling true crime cases.
>has some uwu princess personality, and dresses up in… ethereal glamour? Fairy core? Who the fuck knows, but it looks especially goofy when paired when these horrifying titles.
(I'm including these because they are very large channels, but I'm not currently aware of any milk.)
>creates videos across a variety of channels and podcasts with her husband and family, and uses her main channel to retell cases by herself.
>as far as I can tell, she's pretty well researched and well discussed, plus it can be funny to watch her pick at her husband's nonsense takes.
JCS - Criminal Psychology
>So are these "demons" in the room with us now? meme
>videos are produced with a script, and utilizes a narrator.
>thumbnails are informational, without including any glamour shots (I'm guessing this is a choice, but also scrotes look like the perps when they include themselves in thumbnails, as evidenced by Kendall Rae's husband.)
There are a bunch of smaller youtubers not included, but the combination of hot topics + little to no creative restrictions brings out a lot of bizarre cows.
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also, atephanie's profile pic always reminds me of JoySparkles kek.
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Thank you anon, I'd been thinking of making a thread about these troglodytes but there were so many of them
Honestly fuck the make-up true crimes in particular, like Jesus Fucking Christ they make me so angry
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. idk enough about the beauty channels, because their thumbnails are always too tacky to watch, but then there's so many channels, and i wanted to highlight some of the most egregious.https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/comments/o3ljc1/stephanie_harlowes_nuclearlevel_bad_takes/
i think stephanie has most of the milk, but not enough for her own thread (especially since so much content exists.) the linked thread vs picrel from the same subreddit helps to highlight the turn she's taken in the past year or so (pretty sure this is her adult daughter, but blur jic.)
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Oh, how could I forget ThatChapter?
I honestly can't tell if he's incapable of making a 'th' sound, or if he plays it up so he can say stuff like 'turdy turd' - can accent-chan chime in?>>1400339
Surprised Rob Gavagan/Rob Dyke wasn't mentioned. He had a very popular YouTube series called seriously strange which was fairly well-produced even though he has always gave off a reddit edgelord energy. In his other non-true crime content series he hits out with scrote opinions and surface level observations. Unsurprisingly he's been accused of having creepy conversations and soliciting nudes from his fans who are usually younger in underage girls. I remember sending him random Snapchats of my female friend quoting his videos as a running inside joke we had and he'd reply with heart emojis. This other post from youtuber general touches on it. Also he was friends with matthew santoro and I think was responsible for revealing it was Nicole arbour who abused him? Not entirely sure on the specifics
This youtuber general post touches on it >>1229284
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>>1400403>I remember sending him random Snapchats of my female friend quoting his videos as a running inside joke we had and he'd reply with heart emojis.
gross. the scrotes that include their face in the thumbnail are some of the least selfaware/most narcissistic. he looks like he does a lot of list videos. i wonder where he gets info for the videos - honestly, aside from him accidentally
posting the video of him crying about nicole, the only other time i head about matthew santoro was when he was getting exposed for copying lists.
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i used to watch eleanor neale but she got really annoying. i used to think her videos were decent summaries, now she does less research and crams in as many ads as possible. she definitely has potential to be milky tho here’s some stuff i found/remember
>used to read verbatim from sites such as wikipedia and true crime wiki for parts of videos, now changes up the wording a bit to avoid getting caught
>when gurugossip called her out for stealing video scripts she tweeted pic related
>takes long unexplained breaks from posting and doesn't update her fans, vaguely blames her "mental health"
>came out as bi on camera for attention but never mentioned it again after that
>according to her former classmates she was a major bully in high school and her current personality is fake
>regularly spreads misinformation due to her poor research, such as saying personality disorders aren't mental illnesses and can't be treated, as well as getting basic details about the cases she covers wrong
>used to fight on twitter a lot but might do that less now? she used to post screenshots of comments she got that hurt her feelings and get her fans to drag them
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kek, pretty funny catch. i think >>1400440
anon is right, and most of the milk will be off youtube.
She used to be the only true crime Channel I watched until she legit did a raid shadow legends commercial in front of one of the cases.
Imagine your family member gets brutally murdered and some YouTube girl goes "let's talk about this murdered women but first RAID SHADOW LEGENDS"sorry this makes me slowly MATI because I lost a family member in a way that at one point these YouTube people are probably gonna report on it when they run out of other stuff
Something I always wanted to ask, does she have lip fillers or something? Something is always off to me about her mouth.
I enjoy most of these youtubers, beside Bailey I hate the weird song she does. Anna Solves is someone who annoys me, her voice always sounds extra chipper and then right before she talks about horrible crimes against women & childern she'll shill some mobile game thats extra upbeat or some shit. Nitpicky I know but it annoys me. I think it's just her voice.
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Really sorry, anon. I think that's what gets me, is just looking at these thumbnails… like, if these aren't juxtaposed as part of satire, then it's really callous and cruel to the families.
Stephanie is massively a narc, and it's made me rage quit a bunch of her videos. She randomly started singing in one of her videos to 'honour' the victim
it made me cringe so hard I felt it in every cell of my body. Not because it was silly or heartfelt but because it was sooo insanely self-centred. She also goes on deeply annoying, narcissistic rants about any parents even tangentially related to the case she's covering - every parent is worse than her, of course. She's an awesome fierce mama bear! She'd never respond to life-changing trauma the way that those horrible parents did!
My ex tried their podcast and couldn't stand it, she told me Kendall's boyfriend ruined it for her. Not surprising, though.
I only listen to her solo videos, and do it solely when trying to fall asleep because I like her voice. You're right about being kind of shit with her research.
I do appreciate that she tries to work with families of victims
, and raises a lot of money for charity. All in all not a cow, but it's definitely surprising to me that her channel is as huge as it is.
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If true crime content creators in general are allowed, Mike Boudet (Sword and Scale) is a huge cow>Uses official show account to "own" people in arguments, political or otherwise. Also uses it to say things like picrel>Thinks he is an unsung genius, narc levels off the charts >Latched onto people trying to figure out Casefile host's identity to say they were attempting to "doxx" and used that as an example of how true crime hosts are bullied, just like him!!1>Hates Undisclosed host Rabia Chaudry and will go on Onision-tier twitter spergs about her>Got deplatformed from Wondery for being an edgelord >Alleged sexual harassment of female fans, soliciting nudes>Trolls groups for other podcasts such as My Favorite Murder>Multiple DUI charges
Same, I think that maybe it will eventually catch some of the yt community infighting.
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great contribution, anon. this guy looks like an absolute nightmare.
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Thanks anon, honestly the points I included are only his most notable milk, there's so much because he can never let any of his (real or imagined) feuds go. Also for some more context, this was the post that got Wondery to drop him.
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Example of one of his narc posts
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gross, i hate when scrotes get this brazen. his merch is definitely onion-tier.
>>1400597>She randomly started singing in one of her videos to 'honour' the victim
do you remember which video this was? this sounds awful, kek.>>1400698>tbh, her and her husband are two of the dumbest people i’ve ever heard speak out loud.
agreed. they also live in colorado and sell cbd products, so they're probably more tolerable to stoners.>also they’re both fucking illiterate kek
josh pronouncing satanic as saitanic will always be funny to me. maybe that's why they're more transparent with their sources, because they literally get stuck on words.
It's just irish accent nonna. The one issue that I have with him is that he makes so many videos on murders committed by women - which is fishy cause women commit far far less violent crimes, but distribution fo the videos on his channel are more like 50/50 female to male murderers. What bothers me about it is that it plays into the whole "WoMen AlSO aRe VIolEnT aND CapAbLe of CoMmitTing mURDer JuST likE mEN" angle. It is just not accurate and shows that he has a slant.
Also, he was talking about this one case where this boy spent tens of thousands on a cam girl from Bulgaria and he killed his parents because they wanted him to stop. Mike (that chapter) said that the saddest thing about this case was that the "camgirl didnt care about him (the killer)". Like, holy fuck. Even if a man commits a literal murder, scrotes would find a way to blame women.
All in all, I quite like his channel. I think I am just sensitive to misogyny kek
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old milk but didn't Eleanor Neale get "cancelled" by her fans on twitter last year because she was going to a youtuber group house event in the middle of the UK lockdown? also whilst I was looking for caps looks like shes getting cancelled again or whatever for "misgendering" that guy who was obsessed with Ember from Danny Phantom who shot and killed 3 people
samefag but you just reminded me of her Slenderman stabbing video where she starts borderline blaming the creepypasta author for the murder in a very "Video games cause violence" way, She also lost a bunch of subscribers last year when she was exposed for her weird hyper conservitive views, she turned out to be a massive conspiratard and pro-trump in the "he rightfuly won the election" way
Couldn't post the embed timestamped but it's about 1:15:00 in
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also her tweet last year that brought peoples attention to it
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i remember a bunch of drama around the start of 2020, but i didn't think to get caps at the time, so all of the info i'm finding seems pretty scrubbed.https://www.footasylum.com/mobile/the-lowdown/locked-in-eleanor-neale/
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found them I think I posted the caps when it happened because she was being very preachy about following restrictions (iirc she was shitting on people for not working from home before people pointed out to her that decision is down to the employer and she deleted) only to turn around and do this, at the time she was literally breaking the law in the UK just to go to some shitty YouTuber house of complete nobodies also one of the people tested postive during this and this was before vaccination was available in the UK.
overall just her being massivly hypocritical
Shadda sha sha
It's honestly much worse with the rise of gig economy. I'm >>1401799
and before YouTube/podcast channels popped up, my family's cold case was on a true crime tv show like twice and mentioned in just two books.. now it's everywhere and these people don't even get half of the details correct.
he's from somewhere in meath iirc
but this is derailing fuck accentsperg
thank god for this thread, anon. I always find it funny when true crime youtubers have some horrifying case IN CAPS LOCK …"but first, a word from our shitty sponsor selling ass wipes or a totally not scam mobile game that I didn't research for 5 minutes, or something!"
Also, it's really idk, distasteful to plaster your own face in the thumbnails.
She was my gateway into the true crime youtubers (from professionally produced documentaries) but nowadays I feel like she just goes blah blah blablabbla way too much, like I keep losing track of the stories she's supposed to tell when she's going on and on about these boring details and ends up spreading her videos into 2-parters.
She'll promote anything on her videos with no shame, and the shift from a cheerful ad to the actual content is rather hilarious.
She's kind of like a discount Eleanor with the uwu personality addon. When I heard her intro for the first time I wanted to face palm so hard it could've made a hole in my head. Plus her overly forced, fake 'soft voice'. Bitch is most likely psychotic and I'm not buying the cutesy shit. You look like you're wearing your long mummified grandma's curtains, sweety. (and you killed her)
She just keeps on ballooning on the screen, getting bigger and greasier with every new video, and the way she talks about stuff is just really.. boring?
I used to watch Georgia because she did some more historical true crime stories. But I had to unsub when she started to push out way many much LGBT/social justice videos. And her storytelling was pretty slow as well.
>THIS IS MONSTERS
One of the better ones, puts out high quality videos (more like podcasts) fairly quickly and his videos are very marathon-able. Although, when I hear his personal takes, it reminds me of what a typical neckbearded redditor would say and look like. And when I saw his face I was not disappointed.
He's fairly good. Video titles are from a narrow pool of options (disturbing, bizarre, sinister). Sometimes there are these 'awkward pauses' in his videos and I'm still not sure if they're supposed to be for entertainment. Don't know any milk for him.
Some videos are very good, some are not that interesting but overall, very high effort. Videos include forensic science, criminal psychology police interrogation techniques point of view. He inserts some personal opinions in them. Takes long time to update sometimes, which has set the stage for copycats.
Has grown exponentially in a short time. His first videos had a "JCS parody" in the title which may have helped. His humor and e-begging can be kind of cringe, but videos are overall entertaining.
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i've been meaning to write some summaries on stephanie harlowe's latest videos, because she's going on about censorship. she links to this video, where the narrator sounds like he's trying to do a corpse husband impression, and highlights some of the more conservative channels (ie 'anxiety war' who has had vigilante issues with his local police, as well as trump-voting drama online kek.)https://youtu.be/2jrvWUNHSPQ>>1403473>JCS>Takes long time to update sometimes, which has set the stage for copycats.
it takes so much will power not to a-lot every time i see a gothboiprince upload.
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also, i'm pretty sure this is the guy that does most of the research/scriptwriting for jcs. he is only 1 of 2 channels ever linked in the jcs bio (i stg, when the newest video was first uploaded, it linked to this guy's teeny tiny comedy channel, but now it links back to the usual 'true crime loser') and he talks about hr same cases/makes very similar observations to jcs way before jcs videos eventually come out. a lot of the recent uploads are re-edits of old patreon content, but with some out of place jokes or weird visual edits.
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this video especially has a lot of strange edits (and i know i watched the unedited version a year or two ago on patreon.)
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these wordart edits are the only new stuff in the video, and they look so out of place.
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>>1404231>she bitches about emergency dispatchers being “rude” to people and whatnot yet she gets cunty at the drop of a hat
She honestly comes across as so thin-skinned. She doesn't even include what she's responding to, other than the way she's phrased it in her cropped photo.
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>>1403473>Although, when I hear his personal takes, it reminds me of what a typical neckbearded redditor would say and look like. And when I saw his face I was not disappointed.
the closest i'm getting to meeting those criteria is 'true crime daily' with anna garcia, but it used to be crime watch daily, which was produced by nbc and hosted by chris hansen. it's currently hosted through zoom, and when it wasn't done through zoom, there were a bunch of other nbc hosts that would take turns doing segments. i kind of like how astounded she can sound kek, and her interviewing skills are a lot more polished - all of this feels like a reflection of her professional experience, but there's also no discretion with sponsorships, which comes across as very 'corporate shill'.
she's guested stephanie harlowe, which resulted in a pretty funny battle of the karens. stephanie keeps making claims about the case they're discussing, and anna keeps questioning her.
I'm curious too since it seems like male true crime channels will always take the "women are just as violent and murderous as men!" angle every time>>1404247
Used to watch harlowe but she really reminds of the women who post on the wattsofftopic sub that shits on Shannon watts for having been in a mlm and supposedly annoying on social media. That's enough reason for them to justify being brutally murdered while pregnant. I think theres a pipeline between the anti mlm commentary and true crime community. Pretending to care for the people involved but only really interested in profiting off the subject for yourself
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Video summary (the best stuff starts at 33:35, when Anna passes off the second case to Stephanie.)>35:00 Stephanie mostly derails by discussing the perp's parents,and what it was like to trick-or-treat for him.>38:15 Stephanie claims the perp used to do electrolysis experiments as a child. "Electrolysis experiments? I don't understand… the removal of hair?">40:05 "all the locks had been filled with this goo substance-" "Glue, right. They had been glued.">40:40 "surprisingly, it doesn't seem like he was expelled." after some back-and-forth "Is it clear? Did he absolutely go back to school? That's not clear to me. Yeah, I'm not sure whether he went back to school. I'm not certain of that timeline…" Stephanie has nothing to say about this, kek. "well, the reason he ends up building this bunker…" >Anna takes over the storytelling for a few minutes after Stephanie starts saying she doesn't understand the perp's motivation for building a bunker.>44:35 Stephanie interjects to resume control over the case discussion.>47:20 "So let's get to the day of the fire!">51:10 "technically the tunnels were structurally sound - okay, they weren't going to cave in on you."
I'm pretty sure the comments have been scrubbed, because I remember so many people complaining about the tension between the two when the video was first published, and now it's nothing but ass-kissing.
exactly. she comes off very sanctimonious too when she constantly interjects “as a mother” every chance she gets, as if she’s got some special level of empathy because ~*~she has children~*~ and idk, just comes off shitty as you said.
iirc, she addressed in one of her videos, trying to find it but no luck, something like people getting onto her for being so harsh to CPS workers, dispatchers and the like, and I think she said something like well, it needs to have attention brought to it because it’s a problem and can’t get fixed unless it’s talked about. I can’t remember if her response was reasonable or bitchy, but it’s a broken system and way more of a deeply-rooted issue than “O M G can you believe this CPS worker is a joke and didn’t do their job!” reeks of fucking privilege and ignorance to how things work when you’re employed in social work. it’s easy for her to comment in her cushy office, recording videos. I get investigative reporting and shedding light on a shit system, but she’s just so snarky and interjects her judgmental opinion, so to me, I don’t see how that is going to change anything.
also, her ad reads are so long-winded, ffs. such a windbag.
if he wants to be a serious youtuber, maybe he should start with changing his channel name? Just food for thought..
And I checked out his vids once and noticed he made a video about that highschool kid, Kendrick or something, who was found dead in a gym mat and says he believes Kendrick was murdered. (Even though anyone who knows more about the case would be aware that Kendrick's family is literally insane and have a certain agenda)
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is anyone else getting this channel recommended lately? it seems like true crime reactions are making the rounds on twitch (hasanabi is also doing this) and then clips are uploaded to youtube. wtf do trisha and gabbie have to do with true crime?
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i'm posting this faggot here, because i hate him so fucking much. he acts so smug, but he gossips about stupid youtube drama in-between "case analysis" videos. he always says stupid opinion shit in order to get his commenters to go "yass king, you're so sassy and smart, lol!"
I dropped him the second he accused a teen of being at fault for her own narc mother verbally abusing her. I forgot which one exactly, but it was some popular case in the media where a rich kid was displayed as "bratty" by fellow boomer parents because the kid had a nervous breakdown and vented about her mother on a video, therefore she deserved the abuse.
Scrotes are simply not fit to work in mental health.
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned this bitch (and if she was, my apologies). Christina Randall is a true crime youtube I subbed to a while back but I started to find her insufferable. She regurgitates content from news sources and sprinkles in muh concern and virtue signaling ala readytoglare. I think what pissed me off was her video on AstroWorld and pushing the dumb conspiracy about "demonic portals" and shit where she found it applicable to add her Christian beliefs. She claimed that anyone who even wore a "satanic" symbol was not right in the head, blah blah. I don't give a shit about that scrote Travis but I found it hypocritical of her to be saying that while capitalizing on tragedies. The banner on her yt page with blood splatter is also hypocritical for such a good Christian.
she shared similar sentiments on randy stair (old news) and his views on reincarnation. He was a deranged troon lunatic but she once again virtue signals by shoehorning her religion and prasing jesus.
I have nothing against Christians but she bashes others beliefs without thinking about alienating her viewers and realizing it comes off hypocritical.
She's a reformed prisoner so I can maybe understand why. There is fake positivity in every video.
She's probably more popular with older people so perhaps I'm being unfair to her kek. Sage for my sperg, just wanted to no if anyone else watches/watched her.
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>>1405984>it's funny how the entire focus of his career is narcissism because that probably is a projection of himself
Absolutely - other than flagrant narcissism, idk how someone can be so smug, especially when he used to film from his dirty room like a neckbeard.
There was a case where a step mother was treating her stepdaughter like crap and the dad didn't do SHIT to stop it.
The stepmom would lie on the girl, she even got put on probation because the child told her teacher that and they investigated the step mom.
So basically the step mom ended up killing the child while the dad was at work. He didn't even leave work when the step mother told him the child was hurt the dad didn't even come home. He finished his shift. When he got there the daughter ended up dying, they kept her in the room for a few days. He didn't call the police and then put his own daughter in a garbage can and tried to light her body on fire. It didn't work. He then went to WORK with the garbage can in the back of his car and told his homeboy who told him to finally call the police.
I tell you all this background cause I watched this case on her channel. She tried to say she felt the dad felt he was doing what was best for everyone. Then started talking about how manipulative women can be and how she talked to people who worked at jails & they said that women were worst then men.
Thats when I realized I didn't like her. Alone with her ugly ass hair. That man wasn't manipulated he just doesn't care about his fucking daughter. Even in the clips I saw he didn't show any emotion.
It wasn't a ebil woman making a good father not care for his daughter. He never gave a shit in the first place. And neither did the disgusting woman.
This, then her shilling mobile games and the dumb air headed comments she made. She made a video titled, "Man kills woman for having male genitals" or some shit & I finally clicked the option so that I don't get recommended her channel.
The way she talks about shit always rubbed me wrong, so I stopped watching but I keep getting recommended her until I finally stopped it.
Glad there's a place to talk shit about Stephanie Harlow. Her wattpad tier fanfic parts of her videos are so cringe. She has the tendency to be sympathetic towards murderer mothers. Either that or uses her holier than thou "as a mother" quote to give herself asspats. Her intro song is so stupid too. She didn't even realize she had to fade her intro music till last year.>>1404329>40:05 "all the locks had been filled with this goo substance-" "Glue, right. They had been glued."
this made me realize how often she purposely misconstrues aspects of the crimes she's retelling to add more mystery
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>>1406054>stephanie harlowe has fuckin spermy lookin eyebrows
KEK, I always thought it was her autism stare that bothered me.
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yes, kek. her intros are obnoxious.
I only watched a few of his vids but stopped after I saw this video talking about how unprofessional he comes across in his videos>>1405986>astroworld>demonic portals
Why are people so eager to accept that explanation over how poor management was and understaffed they were
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he's shilling some "healthy" probiotic brownies about 2/3 of the way through his newest video.
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>any time she's mildly annoyed about comments, she rants about them
Stephanie will literally sit there for hours after a video is out and sift through comments and reply to anyone saying anything negative. Literally comments that have 0 likes are completely obscured but she feels the need to reply to them. And of course she needs to "I know right" anyone kissing her ass.
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No milk so I’m going to sage but this sort of thing bothers me. I thought doing your makeup while talking about someone’s murder was bad, this is worst. There’s even “spoiler” warnings. https://youtu.be/4_frf_-xeqo
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Found the sensitive bitches
kek at tc meta insults>>1407923
he's certainly hit a new low, and now I cant get the vision of a typical reddit mod suffering with regular explosive diarrhea
not sure if it’s really what that post is getting at, but it’s always been weird af to me when these YouTubers project their own image of the victim
, completely just assume based on what they’ve read and their “research.” I feel like Stephanie Harlowe definitely is guilty of this. she comes off really sleazy to me, she acts like she knows the families, because she may have spoken to them a bit prior to making her video. there’s being sympathetic to what someone has gone through, and then there’s worming your way close to people for some… empathy brownie points? she just seems super histrionic to me lol.
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in her latest tweet, she's giving tips on being nicer to a family member of a missing person.
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>I have been very, very sick, to an extent I have never experienced before"
omicron? i can't remember the last time she took a break. she was even complaining on twitter that she didn't get holidays off.
>>1408337>omg! I've never even thought of how true crime videos would make the victim's family feel!
If you look at the comments on a beauty true crime youtuber's videos, most of them are about how good the youtuber looks rather than about the victims
. It's rarely ever about the victims
. It's pretty gross.
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oh my god, it's taken me the whole morning to watch half of this most recent 2hour video. i keep having to pause and watch some new content, because this is all info stephanie already put out in videos on her own channel. this side podcast feels more and more like an excuse to flirt.
I literally cannot watch the EWU videos with the female narrator. She sounds like she's working on some seedy hotline. It's turbo cringe and unbearable to listen. Half of EWU's videos are unwatchable because of her
Btw, did anyone else notice that GothBoiPrince (I have shudders just from writing that), probably the most shameless JCS copycat, recently changed his channel name to "GBP - Criminal Behavioral Analysis"? Not sure if he read how LC nonnies shit on his channel name, or just a coincidence. But seemed to have happened just very recently.
He also removed the animu girl banner from his channel (which was still there yesterday after the name change)
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>>1409444>jcs rip off
he definitely gave those vibes before, but wow @ the name change and copying the format. it seems like i've been getting this channel recommended since the summer, so you might be right.
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he was still gothboi as of 10 days ago. also, why is he typing like the queen from deltarune, kek?
Looks like his fortnite streamer career failed so he decided to assimilate JCS.https://www.twitch.tv/gothboi_prince/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6fxTZafsqaF8SByBT6QnA/videos>>1409451
Interesting. I'm not gonna say it's because of Lolcow, I mean, who knows maybe he lurks, probably just a coincidence. Right? One can hope. But it's definitely a change for the better - if I see someone with an anime profile pic no matter what their content is, I'm not going to interact with their channel and I'm sure many others won't either.
I wonder when he's going to drop the (JCS INSPIRED) from his titles?
the sole thing that upsets me is that she’s made enough money period, I was subbed to her for a bit but then I realized I can’t really stand her, she comes across like she’s dumber than a box of rocks and her content just seemed like the bare minimum, whatever regurgitated case all the other true crime content creators were making that same week.
can I just say also do we really need another fucking reading of the JonBenét Wikipedia page from these true crime airheads? done to death. Matt Orchard’s recent video about it at least compiled it in a more compelling fashion.
I remember this. She was being so combative with people in the comments telling her that she was acting like a rude bitch. She thinks her kids would behave perfectly fine when being accused of murder but that's rarely ever the case. She's usually pretty rude to Derrick even though they flirt.
Her Monday intros are also fucking retarded. No one wants to see her make coffee. We don't need to see her walking around the corner to make some coffee with that corny ass song playing. We see that she has a cup of coffee in her hand when she actually sits down. Just start the fucking video.
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>>1409766>She's usually pretty rude to Derrick even though they flirt.
picrel, but this came across as extra retarded to me (this was stephanie's christmas gift to derrick.)
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they talked about it during this series (bonus scentbird shilling)
at this point, with the courts hosting trials through zoom, and interrogations getting uploaded to youtube, it's so much easier/less brain-rotting to watch the stuff directly.
the 'law & order' channel hosts a lot of big, current trials. cw: they're in the middle of a trial about some moid that slaughtered/dismembered his parents, and they're showing gore (evidence slides) on youtube.
i wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of channels start making content on this case. also, between this faggot and joel guy jr, i'm never having kids.
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the chat looks like a mix of boomers and /b/tards
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they just finished and meant to cut the mic for streamers, but everyone's mic kept turning on at the end, kek. also, the chats for court livestreams are wild.
I just got done watching this, I didn't see much gore, I mean blood and dismembered hands but nothing else. That scrote was pissing me off with how he looked popping his eyes out the whole trail.
And I feel like him and his "best friend" had more going on
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samefag, but I'd also like to introduce MrBallen to this thread. Picrel. He's just the fucking worst. I found him through is caving/hiking accident videos and kept watching for entertainment, b but I just couldn't take it anymore. Ex army fag, 5,09 subs and all he does is describe in intense detail these horrific deaths and ordeals those people experienced, with zero compassion and clickbaity thumbnails. His stupid expressions make me want to slap a bitch
responding again with some text links that are more permanent
this channel streams court cases (not the only one, but you might have to look for local news channels if you're looking for coverage of a specific case.) this channel streams a lot of big cases, and doesn't include any commentary during streams.>BlueDot Crime and Interrogationshttps://youtube.com/c/BlueDotCrimeandInterrogations
this channel has a bunch of unedited/no commentary interrogations and other firsthand evidence.>Red Circle Interrogations and Confessionshttps://youtube.com/c/RedCircleInterrogationsandConfessions
this channel isn't as active, but it's similar to bluedot, and uploads interrogations without commentary. they use a red circle to watermark their uploads, and it looks like they're trying to show you a spider on the wall or something.>Susan Bahnshttps://youtube.com/channel/UCfabWpjlPMool7q4K3sokmg
she used to be really good about getting interrogations to upload, but has been doing more commentary. also, she's been editing pixel shades and blunts onto all of the policemen in her thumbnails, kek.>Alice Liddellhttps://youtube.com/c/AliceLiddell-DownTheRabbitHole
i just found this channel, but it's been pretty good so far. she has a bunch of interrogation footage that she uploads without commentary. i did find one video that was 'jcs inspired' (vidrel) so you can hear she's an actual woman, and not a scrote larping.
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he looks like he's imitating soyjack for his thumbnails
His videos really depress me. He has a knack for making you empathize with the victims
in their worst moments, so all I feel when the video ends is intense dread and anger at the fact that he'd dare to make his money by exploiting them
I like Mr. Ballen only issue I have with him is his shitty ass clickbait thumbnail. He doesn't even have to do them anymore, people like his content, they know what he does. He can stop.
Sometimes the thumbnails are so distasteful too depending on the context.
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wow, that's a lot of views gone. i wonder how they're justifying this (via tos)?
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omg, the meme one just got deleted too
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i hate that this spoiled moid thinks he can throw a tantrum to get his way, because his stupid uncle chunk yogurt gave him everything.
anyway, my guess is jcs will reopen their patreon.
It's really shows how fucked up things are when you can have videos with million of views, that are well made and when you complain no one gives a shit.
But when a youtuber who has connects "talks" to someone suddenly shit happens. I find it so weird how open bigger youtubers are about the "Privileges" they have. I guess JCS is greatful but it's just so weird seeing it out in the open like that.
Right? The families of these victims
are already dealing with a tragic loss, so being critical of them like they're celebrities that chose to be known is super fucked and retarded.
If you can direct me towards any other true crime yt channel that devotes that much time to the victim
's backstory, personality, and family, I'll gladly change my mind
I've read the thread. I just disagree. And I'm not interested in a bunch of interrogation footage.
I've heard them mention they both have adhd (hence why they cover 'true crime in half the time') but the wife's facial expressions come across as autism. Tbh, I like that they don't have children, so they don't make up stories about what a great mom/parent the victims
were, and seem to focus more on facts of the case.
kendall seems nice enough but shes always picking viral stories to cover. somebody with her size and viewership, imo should devote time to lesser known cases that need eyes and ears. it feels like shes rehashing cases that anyone who cares enough would have known about. as if she makes her videos for the more opportunist viewers who couldnt care about the victim
beyond the story video they get to watch out of it.
anyways ive been really enjoying search and recovery videos lately. like eg. divers doing volunteer work recovering lost vehicles tied to missing persons cases. they seem show more empathy than any of the other "documentary" styled videos of the same genre.
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I just finished Stephanie's newest video, and she goes on a rant about blaming a 1996 murder on the Twilight series and 50 Shades of Gray.
Nta but don't worry anon it'll only be a matter of time until her daughter jumps on here just like she did on GG, then you can see for yourself that she's honestly not much better than her mother. Thought I agree with you going after her looks is lowtier kek.
Also learn 2 sage.
There is drama in the search and recovery community, too. The Adventures with Purpose crew went their separate ways last year because the main guy was getting too fame hungry and wouldn't share the money that they got with the rest of the crew. The videos about the drama were privated, but they were on Sam Sam The Adventure Man's channel.>>1414681
I tried to listen to this and the first part, but she rambles on and on about unnecessary stuff that I zoned out and missed 60% of the details. One of her biggest issues is that she can't stop fucking rambling. It's the same with her ads at the beginning of the videos that go on for seven minutes.
Totally OT but this dude glorifies the "brilliance" of serial killers while referring to the victims
as things such as "whores" and "trash". Really loaded words for the victims
but less for the culprits. He's also almost 40 years old and just used a fuckton of his youtube bux to get hairplugs done in Turkey. Made me laugh.
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>>1413164>my ex who is clearly running things>sorry for everything
I have no idea what's going on but this is hilarious.
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JCS seems to be officially "over" .. for now. Interested to see what will happen to the other true crime channels. I'd rather see someone like Eleanor Neale than him go, though.
Cayleigh Elise was great, she focused on some more obscure cases and was generally quite respectful, she had face cam in some portions but it was done in an unobtrusive and professional feeling way.
She ended up deleting her channel because YouTube was apparently having a negative impact on her mental health, but a lot of her stuff has been reuploaded if you feel comfortable with that.
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he's either having a meltdown, or there's some reference I'm not getting
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damn, crapshart really was making up stories about everyone. i can't remember the exact videos, but there was a time when she was riding stephanie's dick in some true crime videos she attempted.
Sounds like bs to me. Got a source or nah? >>1420554
Fucking Trashlee desperately trying to milk the creepshow shit again, what a surprise. I'd take that with a whole bag of salt, Trashlee tried to bump Emily out of her own story and write herself in. She's desperate to be the queen of the victims
, a la shiloh from the onion files.
idk if i buy that Stephanie is a hard-core conservative, to me she always seemed like a right-leaning libertarian- not that those things can't go together, just she definitely has a few videos in which she mentions not liking politicians in general, no matter from which side.
she definitely lets her personal biases get in the way of the story she's telling though. i was shocked by how much she completely misconstrued the body-cam footage from the gabby petito case; she was saying that the police didn't intervene because they had come under so much criticism for being unsympathetic to mental health issues, and that they were lenient and didn't step in because they didn't want the backlash of arresting someone with OCD/ experiencing a mental breakdown, essentially making out that it somehow the BLM/ police reform movement's fault that the police didn't do anything to help her.
if you actually watch the video for yourself you can see that's complete bullshit, they didn't do anything to help her because they didn't sympathize with her at all, clearly thought she was just being hysterical and that her POS bf was the real victim. talking about how "my wife is just like that", and offering to let him stay in a hotel room for the night, missing all the signs that gabby was likely being abused and needed help. even if you don't like Kendall Rae i think her analysis of the footage is much better, and really shows how completely wrong stephanie was.
Idk if she still is but she was pretty hard core. She used to post con stuff all over Twitter, I believe theres screenshots on her GG thread I'll link the thread. People got really upset that she voted for trump and I believe that she was anti BLM but I may be wrong about that. Thought I believe her daughter said she regretted voting for trump she also sort of tried to jack the thread and white knight her mom (cant really blame her thought). Stephanie has a long history of being problematic
as shown with her biases on her videos, but alot of her milk came from her twitter even before the GG thread.
I dont even care about her personal life tbh I just wish that she'd stop putting her damn biases and victim
blaming and much amazing mother that would never happen under my watch bs on her videos we dont need to hear her thoughts and opinions like she believes we do kek.https://gurugossiper.com/viewtopic.php?t=35830&start=50
One look at her daughter's Instagram tells you that she's the average college liberal. If Stephanie is really that conservative, I wonder how they get along.
I know from watching Stephanie's channel for years now that she's pro-guns, pro death penalty, and anti ACAB, but I don't think she's xenophobic, outwardly racist, or antisemitic, and she seems to be actually quite anti-authoritarian in some places. I know she's at least not conservative when it comes to religion or relationships (i.e. traditional views of marriage). So I really wonder what those hard-core conservative views are supposed to be.
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i kek'd at this guy's newest video (picrel is another anti-diarrhea sponsorship)>>1423082
gurugossip is a fucking nightmare to navigate, but this anon linked the thread >>1422224
and her daughter shows up after about a dozen pages of people commenting on the insta story she posted outing stephanie voting for trump
idk what you consider>xenophobic, outwardly racist, or antisemitic
but i've heard trump voters referred to all of these things very frequently and adamantly. either way, why is she being dodgy about it and hiding it?>and she seems to be actually quite anti-authoritarian
because even in being a conservative, she's still an nlog by being a faggot libertarian
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this was her adult daughter posting about coping with it
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I cringe every time I see this scrote's edgy middle school-tier content in my recommendations.
The existence of the alt right has skewed a lot of peoples opinions on what right wing beliefs are to the point people think "right wing = bad"
You can be right wing and not be a far right puritan who wants to kill Jews. Most right wingers aren't that. Pro death penalty + anti government is telling me she's most likely right wing libertarian
He has such a scrote, “dark humor” where he makes jokes and light of gore and gruesome content, then goes onto say “Those people who don’t understand me are weak and can fuck off” type of attitude.
He’s so easily bothered under any criticism, that in and of itself is more entertaining than his shit content.
By anti-authoritarian, I meant the's distrustful of the government, as well as the rich and powerful. I don't think she ever described herself in those terms.
With the cops it's kinda difficult to say. She seems to defend the system a lot, generally assuming competency, but also vehemently condemns entire police departments for how one singular case was handled. I think maybe she's biased because her cohost is an ex-cop?
I also noticed a big difference in how she talks about the mentally ill perpetrators in the Slenderman Killings, the Alyssa Bustamante case, and the Rachel Barber case. She's almost sympathetic towards Rachel's killer even though the woman was in her 20s and arguably should be treated with less leniency than the young teens from the other cases.
Did you know that song is from the simple life, Paris and Nicole sing it to each other all the time on the interns season and even got a passenger on the greyhound bus they had to ride to join in as their third member. I s2g it’s the price is right theme song though.
She got like 25 videos deep into her true crime direction and literally did a Hillary Duff make up tutorial that no one at all watched and I think it’s the funniest thing. She has an endearing personality and has said she does the true crime thing because it stuck. She stands out in the true crime community because she’s a pretty make up artist that is funny and bubbly, and she stands out in the makeup community for being alternative, dark, and openly talking about women being murdered when the makeup community does openly misogynist things all the time. She’s said doing the videos gets to her a lot, plans to do the videos every other Monday now, and was in no rush to come back from a holiday break. I don’t blame her and wish she would talk about how blowing up for this format has made her feel, she’s personable and has a unique experience.
Love that for women to have traction in the beauty community they have to talk about women and children being brutally tortured while they do their makeup, and all the men used their platform to hit on little boys on Snapchat like future John Wayne Gacys and Dahmers. That’s cool.
I knew that song sounded like it was from a game show!! I thought it was only me.
Apparently Bailey and her husband broke up. I don’t know if that’s going to affect her posting schedule as well. I cross-posted from the alt-cows thread bc I’m not sure if the split is even that relevant here.
>>1425762>Apparently Bailey and her husband broke up.
silly nitpick, but I think that's called a divorce lol>>1410314>>1410456>>1410330
fwiw, vidrel (thatchapter) is how quickly youtubers start milking cases for videos. he makes an out-of-place 'diabeetus' joke about the convicted murder's brother @4:05
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This channel (as well as his second channel/'Mentour Lawyer') that has been a bit of a personal cow for a while. It seems like he practices law in Florida, so he requests a lot of interrogation footage from cases around the state, which other channels then re-upload. It's really seemed to upset him, to the point of splitting into 2 channels, where he's made a lot of weird attempts to 'watermark' his uploads (usually with his own audio - sometimes rambling/commentary, sometimes just 'be sure to like and subscribe!') and cutting/reuploading the same footage a ton of times.
His lives always look and sound like a confused old man.
Wanted to share this video a small yt channel did about Stephanie Harlowe, I'm glad people are starting to talk about the issues with her content on the actual platform she posts her videos on, hoping more videos like this will come out in the future from bigger channels. It's not mega milky but I thought I'd post it anyway.
Here is a video summary for you nonas:
>intro and general info about Stephanie Harlowe's channel ends around 6 minutes
>mentions how Stephanie has a tendency to let her opinions bleed into her videos, especially when a case involves children, leading to a biased narrative in some videos
>says Stephanie tends to give evidence side by side with her opinions without clarifying that it is an opinion, influencing viewers opinions on cases about real people
>discusses TCC ethics, or lack thereof in the case of many channels on yt
>discusses Stephanie's video on the Bianca Devins case referring to victim blaming and other issues, includes a few timestamps
>11:30 Stephanie disagrees with the concept of not saying a criminals name to refuse them notoriety, says this is only done to appear woke, and actually gives the criminal more power. Studies say otherwise.
>14:00 Stephanie says Bianca "likes the attention" from her would-be killer, despite acknowledging at 13:30 that Bianca had told him she was not interested.
>14:30 Stephanie says Bianca should have stopped leading him on, claims she believes the boy would think Bianca must like him because they hang out as friends, despite already being rejected.
>video host goes on tangent about the concept of "boys will be boys"
>17:00 Stephanie says Bianca was "wallowing in depression" because she was listening to sad music
End of timestamps
>talks about Stephanie posting videos so soon after victim's deaths. Mentions that Stephanie's video about BD was only 5 months after her death, full of victim blaming statements. Mentions her video about Gaby Petito being posted before having any information.
>video host brings up a comment that Stephanie approved of, a summary of the comment is scrotes are scrotes and women are weak. The person says it's dumb to say that 'she should have done x or y' is victim blaming. Compares women going outside and expecting to be safe from men is like expecting to be safe from lions in the woods, says it's dumb to want to try and reform men and teaching women to not get into bad situations is more important.
>talks about Stephanie attempting to rationalize the behavior of the police in the Gaby Petito bodycam footage
Starting around 37:30 the rest of the video is the host talking about her personal experience with domestic violence, its actually pretty brutal, but it doesn't have that much to do with Stephanie. I hope at least some of that was interesting!!
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he's so gross, and tries to be edgy with including as much footage as he can get away with (along with an 'i have patreon so i don't need yt's permission' attitude.) i remember him posting some weird hello kitty maid shit with a caption like 'when he asks you to watch gore uwu.' this sort of stuff really illustrates how it's just creepypasta for some people.
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kek, my bad - gore with emoji is winning
Seconded. This is my favorite true crime channel. Not sensationalized and pretty sensitive & respectful to the victims
, plus I’ve almost never heard of the cases she covers.
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I wonder what case they'll cover.
I assume they'll just talk to her about being in the true crime space and her opinions on various cases, it will probably be boring as fuck>>1432472
I'm happy for her, especially after the miscarraige the way she openly spoke about it made me cry, lets hope she's not retarded enough to show the kid's faces but I feel she is probably too paranoid to do so, the vlgos will probably just focus on the nesting process, kinda cute ngl
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why did they leave this in, kek? picrel is the newest crime weekly episode. she also raves hard about using a new el gato capture card in the first 4 minutes.
am i missing something? they mentioned the capture card once for like 20 seconds…
tbh i don't think it's that much of a bad thing that she shares her opinion on cases, obviously if she's biased to the point of misrepresenting what actually happened like in >>1421984
that's an issue, but i think it's more interesting when she puts a bit of herself into the case, i mean there are more than enough TC creators whose videos scripts could be basically interchangeable for how little personality they show. plus it kinda helps me form my own opinion in a weird way, bc i can decide whether or not i agree with her.>>1431483
yeah lol it's so weird how people who obviously think of themselves as anti-woke or whatever will go on these long rants about how they think other people are too sensitive, and end up just exposing themselves for being unable to take any criticism
inb4 the white knight comments, I actually agree with you. I appreciate her opinion, even when mine differs from it. I never had to "rage quit" any of her videos, like other anons on here lol
And to the point that she just regurgitates facts verbatim from articles, books and documentaries: so? I'm not gonna read/watch all those. I'm glad someone's compiling all that and not only giving me the cliff notes version of a case, like Eleanor Neale for example.
But ik lolcows not the place for nuanced takes, we either hate a bitch or don't ig
God, I'm so glad this moid is finally being talked about. He annoys the hell out of me.
Unfunny, edgy, lazy, uncharming. Sometimes I watch his videos because I get bored and have to stop half way through because he just makes me feel this intense wave of second hand embarrassment. Personally, one of his worst moments is when discussing "Old No. 7" which is some deep web zoo snuff video and instead of actually doing research he watches the video. He poorly acts how disgusted he is with this video but he KNEW what he was getting into watching this video. I don't trust any moid who willingly watches a video of a dog getting tortured and sodomized.
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This other awful moid channel has been popping up in my recommends lately. He uses some kid's voice over to remind people to sub to his channel in the middle of retelling true crime content like it's creepy pasta, and then posts these awful polls for interaction.
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Between using 'circus' in the name and the face paint, I'm convinced he's a juggalo.
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he's so awful. even if you can't stand to listen to his fedora-tier summaries, his descriptions are a solid reflection of his edgy nlog persona. what does it take to get a skillshare and hunt a killer sponsorship? literally just a minimum subscriber count?
Sweetie they’re all juggalos. American culture in 2022 is essentially juggalo culture. There are no differences to be spotted, and I have been observing this dystopian takeover for years. Multiple soda companies are a result of the Mandible Degenerative effect, it’s all faygo and it always has been. True crime is a psyop to eventually arm everyone with a hatchet.
Unrelated but the Irish or Scottish boy is attempting comedy before and throughout the duration of descriptions of murder and torture. Why would he think “you know what this story about incest and how it created a serial killer and how it still goes on today as we erase the victims
experiences more and more needs, my undeveloped personality and improv arc constantly rearing its translucent head every turdy seconds to remind everyone I’m single and will be in your area if you make easily misunderstood commentary”.
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>>1434952>True crime is a psyop to eventually arm everyone with a hatchet.
massive kek, but derrick/the tv cop is shilling 'keep you safe' kitshttps://www.officialderrick.com/shop/keep-you-safe-kit
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>>1434952>improv arc constantly rearing its translucent head every turdy seconds
moike absolutely plays up his accent for his audience, i don't care how defensive eurofags get
He is the only one I like because except for the dark humour and his Life Insurance jingle at least his thumbnail doesn't involve his face anymore, and his videos are short and sensible for the victims
, unlike some of the others true crime youtubers like Harlowe which is highly insensitive and sometimes insulting blaming the parents or somebody like she knows it all with her fugly mugshot in every thumbnail
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These 3 items are $85?! True crime cows will pretend their shilling is an act of empathy, but this is hardly any different than influencer cows and their aliexpress garbage (supposedly everything is locally sourced, but that markup on a few shitty trinkets is ridiculous.)
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did she pick up this new hobby while hanging out with the 'mile higher' crew?>>1432472
also, they named their family channel after their weed company
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I actually think this was hype for going to Denver, because it was posted a few days prior. Fullres of the text, because it's embarrassing and reads like an obnoxious teen.
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The glasses really help, otherwise she looks cross-eyed.
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lol she's really cross-eyed, I've noticed for years. she's obnoxious but I always thought the eyes were cute. she's like a basic bitch, untalented 21st century Karen Black with the eyes
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no matter how many times i clicked 'not interested' youtube kept recommending me this idiot's channel, so i started reporting it for bad content. finally, his main channel quit being recommended, but i guess he started another side channel named after his dog? i remember he kept referring to 'his' bella (a small white dog) when he was milking the chris watts case.
This is so fucked up and twisted on a whole other level. I think they actually do have those cat shaped self defense pointed knuckles on any cheap website for less than ten dollars, and statistically it’s obviously women in poverty who are targeted more. These people have huge platforms and could bring awareness to certain trends in kidnapping, or try to sponsor something involving fucking self defense and fitness. There’s even books specifically for women with psychological and verbal ways to identify and handle people who are alarming, do an audible sponsorship and shout them out for fucks sake. It’s the worst when men shill this shit because they wouldn’t get a second, or first, look in prison, they don’t have a single clue what happens when you’re targeted.
I’m surprised it didn’t come with those cheap but super loud alarms. You can get mace, bee spray, and tasers online. Anything with knuckles is good so it’s harder to be stolen from you. Any man worth talking to has been able to listen to women for a single minute to know how dangerous it is and that every women has had a close call with some violent shithead, and will know to be respectful. If they approach a woman alone they’re asking for it. Fuck living in constant fear, and fuck people who shill unrealistic self defense kits how is any of this real it’s garbage. Oh you want to kidnap me no let me just reach into my bag and find this fucking smooth and easily unidentifiable pencil
out of my purse and you’ll really be scared. If someone is spending $85 on that, they will not know where the best places to stab are because people like that already have knives.
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As silly and ridiculously marked-up that 'stay safe kit' or whatever it's called, at least it makes sense to shill given the nature of the channel, but this shit by eleanor neale is next level cringe and disrespect. The crime scene tape around the plant and the magnifying lense make it even more stupid. Girl, you're not investigating shit, you just compile a script from wikipedia and news outlets, and shilling that 'cute' figure of her on a channel dedicated to describing gruesome murder and torture is just…ick
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He looks so uncanny and ugly
yeah, you're good to post any true crime creators here (i'm avoiding posting about victims
themselves, because i don't want to laugh at that.)
i HATE this dude. legit makes me want to a-log. the way he went after Claudia Conway claiming she's lying about Kellyanne abusing her and distributing her legit CP, saying it's perfectly fine for Kellyanne to take away her phone (that Claudia pays for), because it's her only way to access people who might give a shit, absolutely disgusting. he is a repeated victim
blamer. and i REALLY hate the way he acts like psychology is so legitimate and that he's such an intellectual, "roasting" others while always placing himself above them in the roast. it's not lighthearted, it's not appropriate, it's not wise. it's very pathetic and he is always punching down.
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>>1435733>and i REALLY hate the way he acts like psychology is so legitimate and that he's such an intellectual, "roasting" others while always placing himself above them in the roast.
His comment section is such a circlejerk.
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this is so stupid kek
at least Dr. Phil has a Ph. D in Clinical Psychology, and people with that credential are generally called “Doctor” in a counseling setting
I see that Grande has a Ph. D in “Counselor Education” from Pat Robertson’s shitty Christian university, kek
>>1439449>this chick is making true crime videos now
yup and its her most successful endeavor thus far, most TC youtubers are limited to only english language sources and many channels cover the same crimes over and over, her focusing on just south korean crime was like finding gold and as I stated the stories themselves are super interesting, you get an idea of just how different korean culture is and how it effects both criminal motivations, police work and how the crime is perceived by the general public
Its honestly such a waste of potential
I once left a long comment on her new video why I was disappointed she's promoting Raid shadow legends (it's basically just promoting gambling) and and she deleted my comment within a minute. Kek, need to protect sponsors at all cost.
This bitch always has the dumbest sponsorships anyway, anything from shampoo to fucking paid tarot readings or something online, and other scammy shit that really shows what a bimbo she is.
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>>1439459>and many channels cover the same crimes over and over
It's because there are no copyright issues, so it's free rein to try and sell brutal murders/violent crimes. >>1410314
The Chandler Halderson case posted earlier in this thread already has a bunch of channels milking it.>That Chapterhttps://youtu.be/Qb3uXJ4Py9Q>Fart Grandehttps://youtu.be/Z_wXCZhs3ck>Christina Randallhttps://youtu.be/d27RT6eQQ88>Kimbyrleighahttps://youtu.be/OTZapW-RP1Yhttps://youtu.be/r4D2AGTSjrg>10 to Lifehttps://youtu.be/gmL2KmEq7Xo>True Crime Loser (he recaps trials/interrogations, but his stand-up comedy routine comes through sometimes. This is why he uses a narrator for his JCS channel.)https://youtu.be/eIuNvH2reeIhttps://youtu.be/UxHeLpiv_C8https://youtu.be/czp8Cv3Xs0c>True Crime Daily (they covered this case pre-trial)https://youtu.be/fKxK-VEoiMU
picrel is Chandler posing where he later hid his mom's dismembered legs. I wanted to show how quickly content gets made by numerous channels, but I also think the autistic Stephanie stans might understand what's going on when she inevitably makes a multipart series.
old, but why consider it gross?.. genuinely interested
as I see it: a fan send him a thing to be validated as a fan and he replied with a like emoji
not on a snapchat though, so I don’t know what etiquette is there
Thanks for the recommendation, nonnie
. I'm watching his video now, and her storytelling seems respectful (no jokes, no grwm, no mukbang, and CRAZY TV includes clips instead of stock footage.) I kind of think she appears unpolished because she's not cracking jokes and making a soyjack face in her thumbnails (like the popular youtubers do.) Anyway, I'm into her so far, and she's got my sub.
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I skimmed but didn't see him mentioned but anything bad on That Chapter? I enjoy his straightforward method he just reports might poke at absurdity but he doesn't seem full of himself.
thank you nonnie
. he's so ugly and desperate for validation easily gained by viewers who haven't heard enough irish accents for them to stop being a novelty and is the only one I've seen make jokes explicitly at the victim
's expense, just creepy narcissistic vibes all around. I honestly think at least one of the maybe 3 posts in this thread throwing him out there were written by him too.
Just like something for once without compulsively trying to dig up dirt on it nonnie
. It's ok.
i agree that he is leaning too hard on the dark humor since he’s blown up but I can’t remember him ever making a joke at the victim
’s expense tbh
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Did you even watch this >>1426608
video? Not even 5 minutes in he makes a beetus joke about the son of the murdered victims
(the same person who will probably give a victim
impact statement at the sentencing hearing.) The brother's diabetes was a big point in the trial, because the murderer immediately pretended he got a head injury for sympathy and to keep lying.>>1416559
Old post, but I missed it because I was banned (to the mods credit, they revoked it because the anon that reported me can't read) but this guy is a stand-up comedian on his other channel.
you're good, nonnie
- there's so much tc content, and all the creators regurgitate eachother/wikipedia/magellantv/audible so it can be hard to keep track.
Also, bless the anon that posted this creator >>1439438
(she meets a lot of this criteria >>1404244
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i made an infograph about jcs and his side channels because i saw someone asking about it, and noticed he recently removed the narrator from the description credits. i wonder what's up with that? he's always been credited previously.
…. This is a little embarrassing for you. I'm sorry you put so much work into it but there's no tinfoil. Gotta do a bit more research beyond just youtube.
Youtube has been removing JCS Psychology videos due to violence or whatever, and JCS Psychology actually recently made a post about it (I'm subscribed). The J C S channel is the patreon channel, I accidentally stumbled upon it once and was happy cause I'd seen all their vids. I'm assuming TCL and JCS work together, I recall someone saying that TCL has assisted JCS on some videos. Of course there's no "jim". It's a group of folks working together, and one of those people can definitely be TCL. Content farms are gonna content farm. TCL posts and JCS shares it in social media spheres vice versa. They're not the same person and there's no conspiracy. They shared topics around the same time because they both worked with each other on said topics, plus they have different methods of delivering the content (in a way).
I don't understand the "conspiracy" around kizzume? Kizzume posts extremely political content, and I'm assuming people think that Kizzume is JCS? And maybe the traffic to Kizzume's channel is not exactly what JCS would want. I've been to Kizzume's channel, what a shit show in the comments. I can only assume that JCS didn't include Kizzume because either Kizzume doesn't want to be involved in YT nuking JCS or because JCS and Kizzume have nothing to do with each other as channels, he's just a narrator.
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Forgot screenshot. Seriously, what's the tinfoil? JCS has never claimed to be Kizzume vice versa same with TCL and they've been very transparent about working together until recently when YouTube started trashing channels and related channels, so I'm sure they cut visible ties
Because it explains his shitty jokes >>1416559
- did you even watch 'wrath of jodi'? It was unbearable with all of the unnecessary and unfunny jokes. It also explains why JCS videos take so long to come out, and why they're mostly lazy re-edits >>1404229
. I understand this thread casts a wide net, but true crime stans are seriously as thin-skinned as the creators.
I can't remember which video it was, but I stopped watching after he made repeated jokes about how men can't be victims
of sexual or physical abuse, even though the video was literally about some guy being sexual abused and murdered.
I don’t understand how men think that sexual abuse or rape is a joke, what the fuck is the punchline? It’s not funny it’s just not something they understand so it’s an unknown they are able to laugh at, it’s ignorant as fuck. Women don’t joke about that, and men need to check their male friends about it. A lot of men do get sexually abused especially when they’re younger because older male caretakers have access to them, and the extremely rare woman, but that does happen with men who end up committing crimes after the damage it causes. A lot of men who were abused repeat the process, women tend to internalize it. The point is it’s not funny, and it’s not even just about “hur hur men can’t get sexually abused/raped”, it’s obviously the violation of autonomy, the blurring of those boundaries, and how they survive around other men. I’m actually shocked more men don’t call out their male friends when they probably know someone who was abused, they’re definitely not all smaller and afraid of someone like him.
As I mentioned, JCS is not one individual person. > It also explains why JCS videos take so long to come out, and why they're mostly lazy re-edits
Or, as I said and as you mentioned, they all do research and make vids on the same topic and are a content farm, spacing out the rate at which they deliver content so that it doesn't seem like they ARE basically rehashing content.
I'm not being thin-skinned, just pointing out how you're incorrect with some of your tinfoiling kek. If you want to consider me thin skinned for actually asking you to go further in your theory and answering the questions you posed, then maybe you're the one that should thicken up nonny
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wtaf are you on about other than dick-riding for a content creator? i made an infograph because there are anons in this very thread that were asking what the side channel was (not to mention the general confusion outside this thread)>>1416604>>1416641>>1416704
and this is a fucking imageboard, so i'm not wasting time writing out a thesis to white-knight some creator, especially when they have comment sections where you can go bash clits with other stans and get a creator heart for commenting how funny and smart they are.
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Enough infighting - I present another funny cap from the true crime juggalo. >>1436286
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"I have a world wide Team that helps make and produce these videos"
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these intros and comments are hilarious.
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Grazy TV is posting about their past life regression session and their fans are eating it up.
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What are your opinions on Danelle Hallan?
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i'm pretty sure this guy has a sissy/humiliation fetish
Last Podcast On the Left.
Not YouTubers, but I haven't seen any milk here.
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drip's got a sponsor in his newest video, paired with the title 'CRAZED Man in DEBT does Multi State Crime Spree'
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he also flashes a cotton candy drank and some actual cotton candy as snacks for the interrogation kek
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Surprised nobody has talked about this chick yet. Terribly researched videos, grammar mistakes all while doing makeup a la Bailey Sarian or whatever
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Clipart spamming of their own image is pretty funny - I noticed this with Eleanor Neale's channel, because she's been putting in a random fat picture of herself between updated pics.
I like her compared to all the others. I still don't like when these creators put their faces in the thumbnails, though. I think it's enough that you're presenting yourself the entire video, I just think the thumbnails with their faces are a lil cringe, some definitely more than others…>>1455235
lol'd at the file name.
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kek, found a slapfight over stephanie harlowe in the comment section
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anybody listen to Suffer the Little Children? I saw this comment thread a while back and thought it was interesting, though I don't really agree about some parts, but wondering what you guys think? Maybe not even about her content in particular, but do you think it's GOOD to have a ton of details, even if they are unsettling? to me, it's kind of refreshing to have actual details directly from police reports, etc. compared to all this regurgitated information that adds nothing new, and when people get upset it kind of strikes me like they want to be ignorant of the truth, almost? they want to like pretend this horrible shit doesn't exist in the world?
Do y'all think having "gory" details should be a no-no, or if it's done in a black and white and factual/respectful/analytical way, it's fine?
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The way this thumbnail is arranged I really thought she was the face of the murderer for a moment lmao. Til I recognized the chandler name in title. Like her hair and makeup is truly giving off pathological liar who murdered her parents I can’t understand them thinking look cute like this
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>>1459055>The way this thumbnail is arranged I really thought she was the face of the murderer for a moment lmao
kek - kendall rae's husband (josh) always manages to looks like a perp, even with other moids in the image. i think these women feel like they somehow enhance a case with a glamour/pouty/vanity moment.
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What the actual fuck is this? Why is the literal child edited to look like a hooker?
unrelated but related, there was a video about a very traumatized little girl, she had this hair style and a striped shirt. I know she went through sexual abuse and the title of the vide was like, "child psychopath " or something really distasteful. It was made by a crime youtuber and I can't find it but it gave me the same vibes as this thumbnail. I don't know maybe I'm misremembering but I do know it rubbed me the wrong way.
Also, I saw three people talk about the same case again. It's a old case too, about a young scrote killing a young girl and hiding her under his water bed. It's like one person talks about it and suddenly five other channels make the same video, with the same details. It's like they do no research or look for unique cases.
It's almost always old cases too. I find it weird that murders "trend" on crime youtube. Like some become "popular " to talk about of that makes sense.
I like her but im not a huge fan of her true crime content cause she still has some of the same issues as other true crime youtubers. Honestly she should probably pivot to other content more since she is a good story teller. True crime brings in the views but more and more people are calling it out and realizing how exploitative the community is as a whole.
Like others have said, ive noticed multiple things shes just gotten wrong, and a couple misplaced jokes that could have probably just been taken out, but not as inappropriate as baileys jokes. Although I do think her conspiracy videos are a good replacement and less annoying than that guy who fucks his cat.
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case in point, mr 'clumpy rhino' reuploaded this documentary, but otherwise uploads elden ring and dark souls gameplay.
it's annoying as fuck but she's also genuinely a huge narcissist and has to insert herself into any situation even in the most horrific disgusting crimes. look at the way she has to mention "well as a mom i personally…" in any context where the parents of a murder victim
acted a way she didn't personally agree with. she's one of those people who will have to CONSTANTLY remind you about her opinion and the fact that she'd probably do it differently(which means better in her head kek).
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wait, did eleanor neale get weight loss surgery? or did she just lose weight naturally?
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Laughing at this reply I'm just seeing, I commented this a week after the video had been out, no one else had even noticed my comment. Kek, the cope.
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KEK she's so fucking cunty, and her weird sperm brows don't help. sage for stupid, but her eyes in the newest crime weekly seemed extra intense.
also, she's trying comedy to get people to not 'spoil the ending' of a 30yo case.https://youtu.be/mLh00kQ8BRc
she's clearly telling her fans not to watch these videos, or post 'spoilers' in the commentshttps://youtu.be/Os7y2m_Jwv8https://youtu.be/Z5D9SbHFEWs>>1472544
he has a very unfortunate jaw shape
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Thumbnails like these make me so sick. How do these people live with themselves?
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>>1439084>>1453196>>1463914>>1472541>>1472543>>1472598> I just watched her Orson and Orrin Wells video and of course she had her sickening obnoxious coffee intro
a gift for my fellow jealous idiots>>1472587
oh my god, i need to believe her narcissism is bloated to the point she monitors unsaged threads. i have tinfoil there are messages between her and crapshart, because shart was sucking stephanie's tits so hard before she was exposed for posting here last summer. fr tho, why would she leave such a petty comment up for 3 weeks before removing?
This is a bit tinfoil-y but years ago I was on a support forum for abusive
/narcissistic/dysfunctional families and a poster there was ranting about his brother who was a licensed professional and made youtube videos about mental health, behaviors, relationship dynamics etc. and yet was unable to see how their lives growing up abusive
I ALWAYS wondered if he was talking about this guy lmao. The main things I remembered was that this poster said their dad beat them on the regular and that his brother (youtuber) was the golden child, still had contact with the family while the poster was the scapegoat and was pretty much no contact with all of them.
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I don't mind his videos but this one reaction face he uses for every other video he puts out makes me want to gouge my eyes out every time i see it
As someone who got weight loss surgery three years ago, I think she got it as well. Her hair looks more scraggly, a little thinner from hair loss. Her eyes look more sunken in compared to before the surgery (the hair loss as well as the sunken eyes/less fat around the eyes are definitely from not absorbing vitamins from food as well anymore). She lost the weight REALLY fast, actually (you drop the majority of it within the first 6 months, and gradually more over the next year or so). Her face probably held onto a bit more of it for a while, the same happened with me. She probably got the sleeve.
Her vanity is SUPER annoying now and shows how full of herself and arrogant she is. Can't stand her anymore.
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I really could have lived the rest of my days peacefully without seeing cunty Stephanie's unfortunate cleavage
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ASMR talking about a murder? Wtf. I hope there is an afterlife so these youtubers who make actual tragedies into trivial things to discuss after sponsoring Raid Shadow Legends or some shit burn in hell. This is so weird and gross.
Tbh these youtubers have no business talking about stuff like this and true crime should just be demonitized content. I cant think of a single reason why some random person on YouTube who had no background in criminal science or any of the adjacent fields should get paid for regurgitating murderpedia with their own performative reactions. Half the time these people are spreading some kind of misinformation and the half of the time they're so biased it's almost embaressing to see the lack of self awareness. People shouldn't make entertainment based careers based on the disturbing tragedies of others. Its delusional these people think they have the right to make money off of turning other people's suffering into content.
The Mukbang ones are disgusting beyond belief and I think there's a special place in hell for people who can casually laugh and gluttonsly consume more food than one person should have in three days all while talking about the brutal rape and murder of innocent people. It's like they're trying to tackle all the "seven deadly sins" at once kek. This new generation is so fucked with how much media is shamelessly desentizing human suffering.
just had this in my recommendation and had the same reaction as you.
Also aren't asmr videos for relaxation, who in their right mind is being relaxed by a murder explanation video????
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omfg the rat face is even worse without the glasses.
absolutely - i remember this linda woman covering the case, and it always rubbed me extremely wrong that she was ordering frames for victims
before they were confirmed to be dead. the adopted parents of the west twins recently got arrested, and i saw she upgraded to a rotating digital frame.
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I choose to believe this tinfoil.
i started watching his channel too, nonnie
. i actually find him pretty enjoyable i hope he keeps it up.
Couldn't even get through the video because they wouldn't shut the fuck up about something completely irrelevant to the victim
that they're supposed to be talking about. They were sharing jokes as if they weren't about to talk about a kid being killed.
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I’m so tired of people sucking on Buzzfeed Unsolved’s dicks. people shit on female true crime youtubers all the time for daring to do makeup or talk about the cases in a casual way but Shane and Ryan can joke and laugh for like 300 videos about the dead and that’s totally okay bc they’re like gay for each other or something. they don’t add anything of value to any cases, Ryan is a scared little bitch and Shane is a calloused asshole. yet it’s okay for them to joke about child murder? fuck scrotes.
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Maybe don’t put your image or YOUR CHILDRENS images on a non-private account for random people to see.
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Samefag, but especially when people were already rubbed the wrong way about her face being the whole video but she never cared then…because she was on this weight loss journey and felt good I guess. Now that she’s lacking confidence in her image she has something to say about people pointing out her appearance. She needs to get over herself.
>>1496214>Ryan is a scared little bitch and Shane is a calloused asshole
I fully and gladly admit I don't watch buzzfeed, but this is a hilarious summary of those annoying soys.>>1496262>>1496265
It's always funny to see the hypocrisy of these creators.>You surely wouldn't say this to someone's face!!!
They never seem to consider whether or not they'd say all the gorey details about a victim
's death to their face, so it's honestly ridiculous when they're so upset about the comments on videos they choose to publish.>53 seconds ago
She couldn't even wait a full minute before bitching on another platform kek.
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For anons who have been asking about a female led true crime channel which doesn't have faces in it I can recommend Truly Criminal - I think it is run by 2 sisters, they treat the subject matter very seriously and there is no joking around. They also tend to some lesser known cases (to me at least)
Sorry anon but Bailey is easily one of the worst out of all the true crimes cows. Even when she's talking about the most hideous disgusting explicit shit, she can't even take it seriously and always has to put on that sarcastic jokey tone. At least people like Kendall Rae try to take it seriously and also have a support line for relatives of missing people etc.
As far as I'm aware, Bailey does nothing else except apply shitty makeup while making cringe quips and quirky dark little jokes over a person who got assaulted or murdered. The entire idea of "makeup and true crime! Xox" like it's an unconventional little storyline is fucking abhorrent and a big fuck you to both the victims
of those crimes and their relatives. The least these cows can do is at least pretend to put on an act of seriousness or genuine care, but they don't.
Watching one video of his was enough for me to know he is a retarded scrote with no real insight on topics he spergs about. I hate him and people that keep watching him and with their time pay for his bills.
To think this sort of person may treat real people professionally is scary, maybe it's for the better that he is on yt and can't directly harm anyone, but there is still a possibility his moronic takes do harm other people's perceptions.
I absolutely hate the way he compares himself to Chris Watts by saying how much better he is. Like, no shit dude - literally everyone is better than Chris Watts. Vidrel was a hot topic for a while, and Grande Fart was acting so smug about being married whenever he talked about Chris having affairs.
Also, he needs to shave his balding head.
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What a disgusting looking group of moids. How is he still talking about Chris?
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ok anon, anonymously shitting on these try-hard attentionfags is totally the same as making soyjack thumbnails to cash-in on someone else's trauma and murder
He's great, especially love his old pedo content.. Sometimes he just talks so much about hypotheticals though.. It can be exhausting.
Recently been loving dreading, just sometimes the pauses and exhausted sighs, or super quick sarcastic comments..
Damon variel? Only two videos so far, but I enjoyed them. More psychology instead of speculating. More jcs then daves lemonade. Also does brief summaries on the victims
with a moment of silence for them. Makes it more personal..
agreed anon, I just subscribed a month ago and have binged all his content. I love that he doesn't use any scandalised or salacious tones (looking at you Bailey) and pays a lot of respect to the victims
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sorry but what the hell is this neck in this thumbnail
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>>1501532>dreading's editing is kind of cringe right now
the cringe part is over half of each video is reuploaded interrogation footage with very little to no commentary.
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reeee she still pronounces it weirdly like macarone
This trial is wild - the murderer gave a rebuttal to the victim
impact statement, and I want to kek, but wow. Also, the detective that testified against this moid is a total babe, and I'd hope someone like that would be in charge of investigating my hypothetical murder.
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The original gif was a dad being upset at a gender reveal, and Kendall Rae posted a gif of a disappointed grandma at a gender reveal. Stephanie jumped in to whiteknight, kek.
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i was a little blown away that they didn't get the reference to the meme name of a cartoon conspiracy theorist
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picrel from the ewu channel made me kek
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yeah, but she made a joke in her newest video about renaming it to 'hot chocolate & crime' after being roasted too hard for her drink concoctions.
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kek the video was only published an hour ago, and she's already clarifying her teehee i'm so ditzy comment she made.
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i know a lot of TCYTs insert themselves in their thumbnails but this woman makes herself the focal point of all her thumbnails, with the victims and suspects somehow being secondary in a situation that has nothing to do with her. I got recommended one of her videos about a man killing his wife then having sex with his 1st cousin near her deceased body. She was smack dab in the middle of the thumbnail with 2 people behind her. Since the story involves 3 people I thought she was the moid's cousin.
Idk there's something annoyingly vain about things like this- along with doing your makeup, eating, anything that takes away from covering a serious and disturbing story
wrote all those words when she could’ve said “my medical history doesn’t have anything to do with the victim
we’re talking about and i made a poor choice in mentioning it”
i stg this woman has completely rotted her brain on too many zoomer tiktoks. @8:08 she does some deepfried editing that i haven't seen her do before.>>1511284
kek, true narcissism is slapping your face in the middle of crimescene photos/mugshots.
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they were recently at crimecon shilling their new coffee company. y'all think they shared that hotel room?
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Meanwhile, Plagued Moth is selling shirts based on a real life murder.https://www.plaguedmoth.com/
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Not really on topic, but it's on the same tangent, the this is monsters guy went to a true crime convention and I am really baffled why you would have such an event. I remember going to some oddities expo and so many people were wearing t-shirts with serial killers faces on them like they are the joker or something. So many true crime fans fail to realise that these cases are about real people and are not these edgy stories.
wew i couldn't believe derrick called her his work wife>>1524470
i hate this edgelord, and i hate that he has a daughter>>1524477
it really is just creepypasta to them
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>>1526195>I hope you’re joking about the work wife thing.
no, lol - he says it when he's in the middle of ranting that she's going to keep him up past midnight, and he knows this because she's his work wife.
It's funny how other creators can cover the same cases in half the time -with the same amount of detail- as Stephanie because they don't speculate/insert their opinions based on what 'they would have done' or how 'they' feel. They don't relate every case to themselves or talk about how much they are 'personally' affected by the case (gross). Dark Curiosities covered the Asha Degree case and IMO, her vid was a LOT less tedious to sit through.
I used to listen to Stephanie's videos as bg noise even though she came off to me as a bit of a flake/look @ me/basic bitch. Now she's so hostile/defensive and the videos she makes feature her selling her 'personality quirks': "I'm totes a cool kid guys, I vape and smoke pot… don't come for me! Pineapples, amirite? lol, buy my merch! I am so sad this kid got murdered [sad face]. SOMEONE MENTIONED THE HAIR FLIPPING AGAIN, REEEEEEEE." Five to eight minute in-vid ads with ad rolls every five min after and healthy unsolicited updates on her family life. I was there for crime and facts. You are not nearly as interesting as you think you are, Stephanie. Like, chill out, you aren't the MC in the game of life. The whole world isn't gang-stalking you. The cigarette butts at the end of your driveway were just from someone smoking while waiting for a cab. Make a separate channel for conspiracy/opinion shit.
I unsubbed to both channels a bit after the podcast came out and you kind of got to see more of the narcissism and inability to take any criticism. Same reason I unsubbed from Karl Smallwood and the Serial Killer Docs guy. Constantly be a cunt to your fanbase, you will lose people. It isn't YT mass-unsubbing. I don't miss seeing the same 'look at how solemn I am while taking up 1/2 of the preview image so you can see my makeup/hair' thumbnails on my main YT page.
Derrick seems like a nice enough guy but his input always seems very surface level for a former cop. More rational and grounded in reality than his totes srs business detective armchair detective 'work wife' though.
/sage went in all fields, thank you for reading my shitty blog
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Thumbnails like these are so cringe-worthy.
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Eleanor is getting shit on in the comments for her milking the Bianca Devins case and the title kek
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She’s been deleting comments
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Bailey tweeted about not wanting the Heard v Depp trial to end. People understandably got pissed at her and she deleted the tweet.
That’s genuinely so fucked up she’s deleting the comments and leaving the video up, like give that family a mother fucking break. It’s so obvious when people involved in true crime have had zero experiences in their life suffering from themselves or someone close to them being harmed, and dealing with the legal system or anyone that ignores boundaries and their humanity.
I noticed that Dreading had a video about this, and was kind of shocked because even I know her family has been like literally fucking begging people to stop and leave them alone which is more than reasonable. I haven’t watched it for that reason. She could have made a video about how the families of specifically female victims
struggle, because there are so many very real and deep issues that I wouldn’t wish on literally anyone because of YouTubers trying to monetize homicide without any understanding of it. There are hundreds of active serial killers, and thousands of women who get murdered by men every year, no need to torture this family and her friends just because she did her makeup and outfit a certain way in a few TikTok videos. Seriously fuck off all of them deserve better and so do all of the girls that see her murder constantly trending and being used for money.
I know someone who knew Bianca and she’s been posting in her close friends story about how disgusted she is that true crime beauty youtube rags are picking this case up and getting facts wrong. I have noticed Bailey Sarian has at least swiveled to older cases probably to avoid hurting the victims
families worse, super grossed out that Eleanor seems to just latch on to more and more recent cases.
I'll take my a-log ban, but I hope something terrible happens to all of the true crime YouTubers who profit off tragedy. Ofc they're spoiled upper middle class white girls who haven't had to do so much as even worry about her safety. I guess it's okay if the cases are really really old (as in the deceased doesn't have living relatives or if they do it's distant enough not to be traumatic for them).
The ones who salivate over recent cases and act like the victim
wasn't a person with friends and family,but just a character on a show? Yeah. I wish nothing but the worst for them.
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Hailey Elizabeth has also made a video on Bianca. Fucking gross.
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Bailey is the most upvoted post on r/trashy right now kek. I always disliked the silly shit she did in the beginning of videos and her drag make up. https://old.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/v37v8u/bailey_what_were_you_thinking/
Because they are lazy. Remember that case about that mass shooter, with the long blonde hair? 1 person posted about it, then the next day like 3 other people posted it.
They just go by what is "trending". I watch a lot of true crime shows & there's cases that I've never seen these youtubers touch. If they actually watched true crime outside of what is popular to talk about they'd have a lot more diversity.
There was a case about a mass shooter who shot, I think 22 kids in his school and to stop him a bunch of kids just sat on him. I saw one youtuber cover this. It's very rare that I find out about new cases from these people.
I'm starting to not want to support them because even if some did care in the end, a lot stop caring or care very little.
I'd rather support tv shows, that have actual people who witnessed/family members then YTers. I know it's still exploitive but not in the way I feel true crime youtubers are getting.
Some of them act like they are doing the world a favor by talking about some shit 10 people talked about before them, in the same week.
I just ran to this thread to post the same pic. Bitch gets what she deserves.
I subscribed to Bailey back in the day when she had only 20k-ish followers, as soon as she became more popular, her cunty side started to show in the comments.
She just is getting worse.
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Bailey’s reaction to seeing herself on r/trashy. She has deleted it, but her bot on Discord still has it up as a preview.
>>1548083>sorry for being interested?
Yeah you are a freak for being excited to profit off of a domestic violence case that has been bastardized so hard by media (especially social media) its legitimately taken us back years in regards to how men think they can abuse women and we should just shut up about it or how we can "trigger
" a dark side in abusive
men. To be "sad" the case is over isn't just morbid curiosity. Just like making a video where you get hundreds of thousands of views and paid on an innocent persons murder isn't just "curiosity". You're profiting off of the darkest parts of human nature, slapping a makeup tutorial over it and then acting like you're reacting to a supernatural episode and not real people fucking dying. There's such a lack of empathy here for anyone besides herself.
Shes an absolute fucking freak and I hope people call her out more. The cognitive dissonance these people have is shocking but I guess it makes sense considering you have to be pretty unself-aware in the first place to make that kind of disturbing mix of content and see nothing wrong with it anyway.
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sage because I feel like I'm probably late to the party, but when the fuck did Breeland/Glitterforever17 stop being a camwhore and start true crime shit? I'm wheezing at the cross earrings and fractured jesus picture. I'm stunned she has the audacity to keep whoring herself out like this.
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samefag but I don't think I'm late to the party. She only started doing this a month ago and I see no mention of it here. Up until the true crime "documentaries", she's been linking her OF in the description of all her videos, including all these clickbait titles of her husband. Also absolutely tacky to call your following a "cult" in this context. I thought she might be trying to distance herself from her past actions, but it seems she's just bandwagon hopping.
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Already seeing it. Honestly I’ve seen it a lot and I used to call it tacky too, some people agreed with me but some smooth brains would justify it by saying she was bringing awareness or whatever. I hope she gets canceled and her money pool dries up because she is honestly so annoying and Stupid
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kek if we ever get a second thread, i vote this for the op pic. between the bailey drama and breland entering the true crime arena (picrel is her editing on a recent case) i hope people are starting to peak and realize how stupid the 'bringing awareness to a situation' reasoning is, because these weasels are just trying to camouflage the fact that they're mainly generating money and attention for themselves.
I also miss Cayleigh, she was one of my favourite true crime youtubers and I was so sad when she took down her channel.
Shortly after the left yt I found this channel, Dark Curiosities, that really reminds me of her, to the point where I actually thought it was Cayleigh under a new name kek
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How are people on reddit to dense to other people's pain? Do they not think about how this makes the family feel at all.
I feel bad she even has to state this.
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The top comment on r/TrueCrime.
I hope she does take action and it makes these people think about what they are doing to poor families >>1549821
she's talking about james renner, an abusive
scrote who has taken advantage of and harassed multiple victim
's families to sell his books. he also hit his son. he is scum and i hope she can do something about him legally.
That would be so amazing! It is disgusting how many podcasts have actually tried to paint him as a victims
advocate. I was so disappointed that a podcast I listen to had him on. I even talked to the lady who runs it, and she basically said, Oh well, having him on the show increased her views and the shows patreon.
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saged because not quite milk, but YouTube is doing an interactive tarot even and used her for the death card. I guess seeing this made me mad. I hate that insensitive sack of shit and her stupid drag makeup.
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pinely made another video shitting on true crime content creators (now including the fine bros.)>>1553205
are you autistic?
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They are in an open relationship. He has a Grindr and doesn’t even share a bed with her. Breland’s life is an overall mess. She admitted she doesn’t like to do Onlyfans anymore but she needs to do it for the money. They moved to L.A even though they are broke too. She seems to have jumped on the true crime bandwagon and makes merch out of it which is tacky as pic rel.
Sorry if this is a late reply to this, but I just wanted to say that dreadings video on bianca was actually quite good. I felt that it was very empathetic towards Bianca and was really insightful. I was kind of grateful for it actually because I felt everything else just painted her as a crazy "egirl" who deserved it or something. in reality she was just a child who didn't deserve to die or be ridiculed and used by so many people ( fugly true crime idiots ). I have to say dreadings videos are pretty good at humanizing victims
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idk when this happened, but the thumbnail was changed (it had to be semirecently because i wouldn't click it when it had the previous thumbnail, and did today after not recognizing it kek)
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Do not watch this video, it's from one of Anna's many channels, "Anna's Story time" or whatever. I hate when these true crime youtubers put dead bodies in the thumbnail. I don't care if it's not graphic it's fucking gross. Especially on a channel like Anna's who care LESS then usual about who/what they are talking about.
It appears Emma Kenny’s long winded ass is anti vaxx. In one of her videos she blamed the increase in child abuse deaths on lockdowns.
This woman will go on for hours rambling about nothing. In one of her three hours videos, she only spoke about the case for 45 min! Just shut up and report the case.https://youtu.be/XccwC8PBHvw
“BANG TO RIGHTS”, “Do not Comply” merch . She loves hearing her own voice.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
lmao at all the bitches thinking she's sooper serious and respectful. >>1433169>wahh, what's wrong with vaping, you prude?!
vidrel @1:15:59 cuts to her in a room filled with vape smoke while she's talking about a man being murdered.
I’m so glad you’re able to not be triggered
by a stranger doing whatever they want with their own life. ‘Dire Trip’ is probably very relieved you didn’t have a conniption because of his gender. wtf? lmfao
wish you would’ve talked more abt the content instead of giving some stranger your stamp of approval
get over it. the word “he” can neither hurt you nor me lmfao. you don’t have to agree w them but it’s possible to just not be a dickweed?If you wanted to go by the name Steve, I’m not gonna run around calling you Joe. Try to avoid the conniption mentioned earlier and stay focused on the true crime content ,thanks
although, if someone’s voice not sounding “manly” or deep enough is too upsetting for you, try other podcasts. You’ll be ok, promise.
Absolutely. I started watching her around 2019/2020 then with the pandemic, her channel blew up. The jokes became even more inappropriately timed and her personality started to feel really fake. I like content creators who genuinely care about either the victims
, or the psychological/criminological aspects of cases. Bailey talks about an innocent person’s horrific last moments like she’s telling a spooky ghost story at a campfire. Speaking about death and tragedy and calling it “today’s story,” when it might be a case where literal children were murdered. If you want to do your makeup and talk about something, fine, but it should still be done keeping the real victims
She’s also gone on podcasts/shows as an “expert.” Expert of what? Lol(learn2sage)
Is she still a handmaiden if she is simping for TiFs not the timmies? Does she still get a funny hat?>>1574092>>1573548
Honestly I'd rather they call her "he" than "they", at least it's grammatical.
honestly no LMAOO I did not realize the beliefs of the majority of this website and as soon as I did I had kind of a fist-bite moment where I knew the other anons were not gonna like what I said. Oh well. I stand by not giving being an asshole to random people regardless of beliefs. I think certain religions r delusional, but if I said that to those religious people I’d be an asshole. Same thing applies here; it’s just unnecessary.
I feel like why expend my energy to criticize beliefs that don’t affect me. I’m just not that sensitive and I don’t feel the need to be an asshole to a stranger who’s minding their business.
That being said, I’d much rather just talk about the true crime content (the purpose of this thread) rather than get my panties in a twist speculating over the sex of someone I will never meet. That feels like a bit of an overreaction. If you wanna talk about the content, sure.. hit me back LOL(at least sage, damn)
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I don’t think anyone mentioned this but Harlow accused Soo of stealing her own research word for word in Soos podcast a few months ago. AFAIK nothing ever came from it, just Harlow bitching on twitter
I was just about to say this kek. They all just read wikipedia articles out loud, no shit they'll end up sounding the same.
Imagine profiting off of the murders of women and children and having the audacity to play the ethics police.
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not milk, but pretty cringe lol - kinda weird she uses her pseudonym/work account to promote true crime cases, while also following silly personal hobbies and interestes like gorey horror vidya.
idk her last name, but there was some drama in the op gurugossip link where she had a shitfit over someone using it - i can't believe this woman reads people's diary entries on youtube kek.
>inb4 retards with no reading comprehension think i'm critiquing shartlowe for enjoying games
never thought i’d say that about an aiden but here we are
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holy shit has anyone else seen this? this woman got autopsophy photos from the recent stauch case via FOIA, then SOLD videos containing the photos. if anyone kept up with the recent plagued moth drama, it's weirdly similar.
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every reply is shitting on her
>>1863437>plagued moth drama
if anyone missed it/wants to catch up.
he lost his patreon recently because that creepy reading reported it for selling gore/hurtcore shit + didn't verify his age. moth said it was lgbtq hate.
>>1863533>I hope the family sues her ass to the ground.
jesus, same - one of these losers getting slapped with a suit might actually shock some of the other retards into acting like a decent human with basic compassion. the victim
's dad did an interview on news nation a couple of hours ago about the photos being posted.
My faith restored in humanity seeing her fans shit on her, so incredibly disgusting these true crime channels can profit off of a victim
to a crime, I hope the family sues her ass for all that she’s worth. So incredibly sad these families are made to relive the traumas of losing someone close.
Hope this is a wake up call to all the invasive true crime channels.
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I haven't seen the video, but jfc this explains why she felt the need to mention genital rumors… this is actually horrific.
There really needs to be a way to copyright strike these people if they are getting $click$ off of a family member (that isn't even their own) murder. Especially in the case of children.
I've felt these so called true crime YT's have been getting more invasive and unhinged in their quest for clicks and Patreon subs and this just proves it.
I hope the family sues for everything.
I’d sure as hell donate to their GFM for legal fees!
She uploaded an apology video.
Highlights:>"I want to apologize, esp to Gannon's family">been soul searching>"not making excuses, not looking for forgiveness, just offering context">Made request for all written, video, audio records while trial was ongoing. Claims she did not explicitly request autopsy photos.>Mainly wanted interviews with Leticia>Claims most photos were already shown during televised trial, she had seen the photos on public YT channels that livestreamed the trial.>Put photos on Pateron due to "sensitive nature of evidence" and "added security">Didn't put the video with autopsy photos on Youtube, even though it "would have made her more money">"No photos show genitalia">"I didn't make jokes about the photos, I don't even cuss!">Patreon has been shut down. Doesn't specify if she shut it down or Patreon did.>"I let the troo crime community down">"I'm looking into sensitivity training">End.
Personally, I think this person is legitimately a psycho. Her affect is almost completely flat and all she did was blame other people. "The images were televised anyway" (doubt), and "I didn't even profit off these photos as much as I could have!!" is an insane response to this.
Picrel are some comments under her video.
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Sorry for being a n00b, I didn't realize you couldn't post pics on video posts.
Picrel are comments
>>1864243>"The images were televised anyway" (doubt)
i've seen some law & crime livestreams where they actually don't blur autopsy photos as they're shown, but later censor it with an edit. >>1410193
>>1440664 still, looking at a recording of an image on a screen is a lot fucking different than looking at the originals. this woman is unhinged.
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First 20 minutes is this flavor of rant kek.
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deleted cap of her hyping the photos was included
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She's a complete 180 in her only recent posts>"Wahhh, I'm giving refund anyway!!"
I don't think it was posted, but she only charged $3 USD to access her infamous video and the original photos
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sage for OT but I despise these people, they are so detached from their own humanity that they are unable to see the harm in treating human tragedy as entertainment or worse a joke. As someone who has personally experienced the tragedy of losing a loved one, with my cousin having been murdered in a mugging, this mentality boils my blood. I can't bear the thought of a family seeing their loved one's death being turned into a form of cheap entertainment.
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>>1866874>I despise these people, they are so detached from their own humanity that they are unable to see the harm in treating human tragedy as entertainment or worse a joke.>>1866823>i have the originals where it's not a recording of a crooked tv screen LOL
sorry you had to go through that nonny
. if it's any consolation, people are still shitting on zav in her most recent community post.
>>1866977>If there's one good thing coming out of this is that we may see changes to who can access these files anymore
Yeah, it kind of seems like the most hopeful thing can come of this is maybe a law change. One of the most recent examples of this is Caylee's Law, which was made as a result of the Caylee Anthony case. Other than that, it looks like it would be up to the victim
's dad to pursue a civil case, and he's saying he doesn't have it in him. >>1863552
I knew I hated true crime YouTubers for a good, valid
reason. I hope the shit storm kicks up so hard YouTube just bans them all. We don't need some dumb narcissist bitch talking about someone's murder like she's Shannon fucking Lester on the Wendy Williams hot topics segment whilst applying makeup by the pound.
it seems like the most logical solution here is to give the affected parties (victims
, defendants, families) the option to press charges if the content accessed by FOIA is being profited from.
that's what civil cases are for. people can make police reports, but it's the state/attorney general that pursues charges if there's a case. it's why police are supposed to take someone into custody when they're called to domestic violence situations, even when the victim
is unwilling to cooperate, because otherwise a lot of women and children end up dead.
I hope there's a major cultural backlash against people who do this. It's really just fucking repulsive.>>1867269
Her mannerisms/looks are a bit like keffals now that you mention it lol
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Kek, not to give him the satisfaction of being ~~hate-crimed~~ but what a whiny faggot. Just goes to show watching gore and child pornography doesn’t make you tough. >>1863533>see my child’s autopsy again
That’s the worst part, the dad left the courtroom when the autopsy photos were shown and the family made a big deal about not seeing the photos. Zav is scum. Scientific detached way? Psychopathic way. >>1866876
More whiny faggots. The girl’s name is Yerby for God’s sake and she wears these giant cat eye glasses. They’ve used a couple videos to crowdfund for cat vet bills, I think they’re so annoying but they cover really niche cases. I finally soured on them when they posted pic rel, all the videos before and after are covering children. When I commented that they never stopped covering children, they REEEEEE’d about it but hadn’t replied to many other comments. Stephanie Harlowe status.
For anyone asking about good women who create true crime content, Unpredictable is a new channel that covers crimes without embellishment, no face cam and she has a really nice voice.
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Stephanie Soo made a new channel without the stupid mukbang shit (I had to click the 2nd video to make sure I wasn't just being racist when it popped up on my feed.)>>1867517
Damn, I thought the misery machine was a funny way to describe these calloused assholes, not an actual channel.
She's such a piece of shit, just because you are not eating doesn't mean you are not exploiting tragedies of real victims
I will admit that I have been watching this channel because she covers cases from parts of the world where the news is fairly inaccessible to me (mostly East Asia) and I think her videos have been fairly good so far. The one thing that really gets to me is the very performative way she will become choked up when talking about victims
. At first I thought it was sincere but it's so consistent that it's difficult to view as anything but a cynical act.
She's a pretty good storyteller when you remove the context of what she's talking about, but the way she recounts these crimes and the tone of her voice seriously rubs me the wrong way.
Her video about Alexee Trevizo really pissed me off.
She was talking about a 19-year-old as if she were a full-grown adult and not a teenager. The way she kept pointing out all the ways Alexee could easily have gotten an abortion ignores how shame and embarrassment could affect someone that young.
And it is completely normal for people to refer to babies as "it" in conversation when they're newborns. Just a major pet peeve of mine when people act like calling a baby "it" means they're automatically a sociopath.
I realize this is an old post I'm replying to but the thread has been kind of revived so I'm replying anyways.
I'm convinced that recently dreading has been using an AI to at least voice his videos. If you compare a new video's audio to an old one, you'll notice that weird rasp that AI voices tend to have, as well as really odd pacing in his sentences. I'm assuming he must have trained it off of his old videos.
Also, not 100% sure about this, but he might be using some kind of AI to also write his scripts as well. In one video, I noticed he called the town Fox Lake as "Fox Lakes" (understandable if he didn't proofread that) and "Lake Fox".
I don't know, maybe I'm just overthinking. What do you guys think?
Dreading is actually a really great channel. Well-researched, thorough, doesn't sensationalize, and includes very little of the creator's own opinion/personality, being more fact-based instead. The videos are extremely respectful of victims
and family members. There is no face cam. I sincerely recommend it.
kek i think you're right nonna>>1868720
dreading has always been lazy >>1501556
i can't stand how much credit people give them
I used to like Dreading for these same reasons, but out of nowhere the bulk of his videos became glorified raw interrogation footage like >>1868738
said. Dave's Lemonade has a similar style and is much better.
dave's lemonade is one of the only channels that seems to have a actual respect for the cases he covers>provides background details>uses original sources and incorporates them in comprehensive videos>often covers regional cases (australia/new zealand)
matt orchard is similar, but the way he shills his patreon is obnoxious and his snarky commentary veers too much into todd grande territory (semi related but the jcs guy was shitting on grande's joke-telling in vidrel at 15:25 kek)
If she's a monster, then there's nothing more to understand and nothing anyone could have done to stop her.
Taking a situation as nuanced as this one and boiling it down to "this girl is a monster" is incredibly reductive and limits our ability as a society to learn from what happened here and hopefully prevent something like this from happening again.