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No. 1829410
Thread to talk about people who are radical feminists, but are batshit insane OR claim to be radical feminists, but are just using it to gain money and/or notoriety.
Warning: This is not a thread for ranting about TIMs, TIFs or COVID. Please go to the respective containment threads for that.
Anna Slatz
>Grifter with a plastic surgery addiction.>Fired from her job as Editor-in-Chief for writing two puff pieces for the leader of a Neo-nazi party in Canada.>Currently making a transition as a financial guru and stocks investor.https://twitter.com/Slatzismhttps://www.reddit.com/user/AnnaSlatz/>>>/snow/1244909Vanessa Vokey
>Anti-mask psycho who compared face masks to hijabs.>Assaulted a female voting booth worker for asking her to wear a mask.>YouTube recently deleted her channel.https://www.instagram.com/vanessavokeyradfemMeghan Murphy
>Founded the website Feminist Current and was a radfem.>Moved to Mexico to escape the anti-feminist dystopia of Canada.>Ditched her beliefs and doesn't feel comfortable calling herself a radfem anymore.>Writes articles about feeling sorry for men nowadays.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq-04S1vzWPy3G8omi0wVvAhttps://www.instagram.com/meghanemilymurphyLeah Tverly
>Unhinged druggie who makes crazy rants online while playing a synth.>Thinks that hygiene is a tool of the patriarchy.>Made a video of herself freebleeding in response to Contrapoints.>Peed on the toilet seat and the floor of a public restroom because of a troon.https://twitter.com/chained2phonehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCNdr61tRUO2UVciM5gbxfQ/videosElle Androphobia
>Anti-vaxxer, who believes that COVID is a fake pandemic.>Believes that vaccines makes you troon out.https://www.youtube.com/ellaandrophobiahttps://twitter.com/radfemmommaYTAmy Dyess
>Former radfem who claims that was brainwashed by Julie Bindel to join the TERF cult.>Currently in transition to become a man and working on an anti-TERF film.>Believes herself to be the alpha in the fight against TERFs.https://twitter.com/TheBeauDyessPrevious Thread
>>>/snow/1351285 No. 1830655
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Blackpill radfem twitter has some of of the weirdest lesbians and bisexuals you'll see
Obviously not all on are like this but like so many are so weird, There was lesbianmolester who was a bisexual woman, who liked her father and frequently posted some father daughter anime or manga thing and made very creepy and questionable comments on it and also called the father cute. I have seen others who have rape fetish(like the one doing the raping) and then they say its a joke
There's also nina who gets off to abuse victims (women) crying while telling their sexual abuse story (according to that leaked screenshot) and then she admitted herself on twitter that she likes all kinds of molestation stories
dyk3namite alleged male hating lesbian who was in an online relationship with a 16/17 boy
No. 1831314
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>be me
>like Dystopian Deep Dives
>always comment on her videos but not streams
>always leave long reviews and multiple posts to help the algorithm
>shill her videos
>basically look up to her because older radfem
>ask her to explain a joke about drugs
>she outright says “oh maybe someday you’ll have experiences that aren’t online”
>flip through some of our prior conversations
>it becomes abundantly clear that she thought I was a loser and was treating me with contempt
>she told me at one point to write a book
>at the time I thought maybe she was insulting me
>chose to believe that maybe it was a compliment
>maybe I should start my own blog or something and be a mask off TERF
>nope
>she completely dunked on me for no reason after I was her fan
>can’t enjoy her show anymore because she hurt my feelings
>said I didn’t think I wanted to keep engaging with her content if she’s going to be so mean to me
>she basically laughs at me and says I was the loser kid who didn’t realize no one else wanted them there
It’s amazing how a bunch of mentally ill women with fringe political beliefs denigrate other mentally ill women with fringe political beliefs. Why is being some cool gen Xer more important than fostering more female voices to rise up? I hate this. I can handle meanness from TIMs because they’re monsters. Other women (especially other radfems) just makes me feel like I’ll never fit in anywhere.(not your personal blog)
No. 1831317
>>1831314first of all, literally who? second of all
>she completely dunked on me for no reason after I was her fankek i suspect theres more to this story, I can smell the milk from here
No. 1831322
>>1831317She has a podcast. It’s actually pretty good and she has some great stuff that’s against sex work.
And no, not really. I didn’t talk to her in DMs or anything. I just left what I felt were decent longpost replies on a channel I liked and getting shut down for no reason hurt my feelings. Simple as. I think the milkiest thing I did was fedpost about wanting to kill AGPs. Normal stuff.
>>1830279Never forget that Hontra sent her a bunch of pornography as a “joke”. Remember, this dude got “cancelled” for saying Macho Ma’am was mean. Or having Cuck Angel on his show. But asking Milo Stewart about her T growth clit? Sexually harassing feminist content creators? Yeah, that’s fine.
But yeah, seconding the based comment. Freebleeding is the way of the sage.
No. 1831357
>>1831334I thought it was rude and hurtful, and indicative of larger issues within the radfem sphere, but I wouldn’t say it was crazy on her part. It reminded me of how when Lisa Michelle went full cowmode people dunked on her for writing her diary in pink ink as opposed to anything substantive. Michelle herself even tried to be cooler than Ella by pointing out the inherent silliness and posturing inherent in a boymom calling herself an “androphobe”. There’s this quality to radfem cows (and non-cow radfems who sperg out) to create this inverse mean girl hierarchy. One becomes radfemmery than thou, so to speak.
And yeah I am new to posting here. I usually lurk but since the Farms have been down I’ve been sharing my autistic speculations here. Sorry for not posting pics, but I wasn’t trying to dump on this person.
No. 1831367
>>1831314This is going to sound mean, but you have to understand that 9 times out of 10, the type of person who wants to seek mass attention for their opinions online is some kind of weirdo or self-absorbed freak. There's a certain brand of person who sees the internet not as a space to connect with others, or even just make money, but as a version of Hollywood they aren't too mentally ill and/or incompetent to make it in. That includes being able to look down on others, especially their "crazy fans". Said fans don't actually have to be crazy, just invested, so they, as the quasi-celebrity, can feel big, important, and pretend they're absolutely
hounded.
Sometimes, it's even less deep than that. We know some people go on gossip sites to feel like they're Regina George in high school. Well, the same often applies to "content creators" like TikTokers, podcasters, etc etc. Naturally, they'll form a special "clique" and get a high off kicking others down to feel uplifted, especially when they're already in niche spaces.
You did nothing wrong, except assume you were interacting with a stable, genuine person. Most internet personalities are not that. It's probably not a good idea to keep rewarding someone who was a dick to you with views/engagement, but in a general sense, whenever possible, take in the content without bothering with the person. Your attention alone is worth much more than they want you to know.
No. 1831377
>>1831362Oh yeah. The hunter gatherer thing. I remember that. And that’s probably what pissed her off. I regularly fedpost about wanting to kill troons, and she treated that with sarcasm; she made made fun of me for saying “moid”, etc. However I assumed she was a radfem because she talked about why prostitution sucks.
>>1831367Interesting. I can definitely see that in some AGPs like Philosophy Tube (who lie about having stalkers) but I never considered it a thing in feminism. It seems very counter-intuitive to post stuff about feminism and then get annoyed when some woman excitedly longposts in reply. Then again, if what the person is longposting seems irrelevant to your point, it could seem annoying and arrogant to them.
And what you’re saying about Z list Internet celebrities rings true to me. I think about how the Brooklyn socialist podcasts like Chapo and Red Scare collectively shit on their fans.
As for the comments that hurt my feefees… I think everyone would be better off taking jokes, so I tried to make self-deprecating jokes about being terminally online back at her when she said things like “wow you should write a book you have so much to say”. Eventually it dawned on me that she really didn’t like me and this wasn’t just bantz. I felt really embarrassed. It makes me feel way more shy about approaching other GC / radfem women.
Anyway, thank you. This is a very intelligent comment and I appreciate effortposting.
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>>1830655>dyk3namite had a relationship with a boywhy are you lying? the callout was done by the
victim herself, who was obviously a girl and is still on twitter
https://twitter.com/thornsfem/status/1588298338029301760?t=BZpW8BFPP0wrYJ2Rh1HX6w&s=19https://docs.google.com/document/d/18lExRSMc6AvrPraOlUMsgpI51m1z-RcxfkwR4xRDZfM/edit?usp=drivesdkthis is the original document she posted compiling their chats
>lesbianmolester was bisexual and liked her fatheractually I'm not and I've also never mentioned my father in any context whatsoever, sorry if you're unfamiliar with the concept of liking an animated character
you would find enough stuff to talk about if you look into the rest of radtwt since they are all borderline libfems, you wouldn't have to resort to lying
(are you lost?) No. 1831492
>>1831480I know youre just trying to make me mad, but i think everyone else knows being mutuals with someone on twitter doesnt mean you jerk off on voicechat together to eachothers posts
you've clearly never even seen one of my public profiles if you think i have no interest in or never posted about lesbian sex lol, thats the only problem i have with discussions about me nobody even knows what theyre talking about. there's not even any concrete "milk", its all hearsay
No. 1831502
>>1831495Then maybe, again, you should post about them and how horrible they are and not about me when i haven't said such a thing, but you cant, because you don't even have a single screenshot to share to discuss those terrible terrible posts
>their essays on how it's actually okay and healthy to touch your little niecesounds interesting, link?
No. 1831582
>>1831577I didn't falsify anything. This thread has multiple posters.
Anyway, there's a whole host of shit about you that doesn't bode well, and I don't get why you're open about it and even try to get into fights on it. You kind of do the "half-truth" thing, but like, people know and you don't really hide it. What's the point in that?
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>>1831571"cancelled" for what? liking a celebrity and being cringe? only people with an audience and a public persona can get cancelled. im a private account with 100 followers and i hide nothing from them. i just want you to realize you are retarded for trying to discuss me when you have no milk and whenever you bring me up you HAVE to lie about me to even say anything. bring me up again when you find my self insert fanfiction on ao3
No. 1831686
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>>1831480>Following a pedophilic account because you want to view gifs of little boys getting touched should get you dragged. Amazing how you dispute the bisexual accusations while actively seeking out actual real life pedophilia involving malesWait what, how are such accounts allowed to stay up?
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>>1831480>>1831460Huge claims, do you have any actual proof? Are you saying there's a pedophile integrating in radtwt?
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>>1831690She got her account deleted recently retard, and openly pedophilic accounts do get deleted all the time. I never said I was here to provide milk, or screenshots to make a callout (to who, her 100 followers on her locked account who are already aware of the way she is?), im not even the person who brought her up, either.
>which is incredibly obvioussays the person who is (or acts?) unaware of how prevalent actual irl pedophilia is celebrated by those specific blackpill circles. She literally posted about it in this thread, don’t be stupid with the “muh screenshots’ stuff. The person on picrel and sh1tai_cor3 interacted heavily and openly with the pedo gifs account in question and nobody gave a fuck. Why would anyone even care to gather screenshots. Use your brain.
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>>1831532No, but nice attempt at derailing. im talking about lescel following @Wy1_osis when the account was up (the suspended one in the screenshot), along with others. This is nothing new with the shartfem/homosharts, lescel, maskedsadism etc bp friend circle.
for the people talking about”vendetta posting” I’ll recap it out for you, because you seem a bit confused: a random anon posted misinformation about lescel wanting to fuck her dad (untrue), she shows up to correct it, several people comment on how she’s still fucked in the head. I’m not
>>1831592, I’m not even lescel acusation OP, and of course I’m not here with proper milk either because those comments have been nothing but others responses to lescel histrionicism having the need to come and defend herself over dad fucking accusations. but following this whole circle since the sharters discord server, since lescel was edating the Angelina girl, it’s hard to miss the pedophilic patterns of the whole circle.
>>1831727celebrate moidlet rape and abuse is putting lightly, picrel.
No. 1832190
>>1832038Radblr has its share of clownery (there are right wing/male/etc. orbiters who fit the bill of the average radtwt user), but it's due to Tumblr's userbase dwindling in the last few years and the lack of character limit allows long form discussion and replies.
>>1832063Yeah, same, I didn't notice that many "older" (in internet standards) users on radblr to my knowledge. I was on radblr when I was mid-late 20s and while some "legacy" bloggers who have been on there for 5+ years are in the early 30s range, a lot of "newly peaked" sideblog crowd are 16-24 range.
No. 1833332
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Jah on twitter came out as bisexual kek
No. 1833442
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>>1833356>>1833440It wouldn't matter if she wasn't acting like she's the queen of lesbians 2 months ago. She's a cow
No. 1833450
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>>1833449doublepost lesson of the day: radfems are no better than trannies & tranny lovers in their obsession with lesbianism, redefining it & bringing moids into it
No. 1833483
>>1833479You seem like you are trying to minimise and awful violent crime. I'm glad you think such a horrific thing is akin to a retard on twitter being offensive. They literally are not the same thing.
>sick of this women are never as bad stuffHmmm…
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>>1830541>phemoid got exposed by radfem twitter for defending her boyfriend finding 16 year old girls attractive.here's the cap
i posted this before but deleted because i said something really retarded and didn't want to instigate any infighting No. 1833491
>>1833483ayrt >retard on twitter
are you the other anon? is this your shit reading comprehension again? i said both groups participate in the rape culture surrounding lesbians. this isn't just a chronically online twitter thing. it happens outside too. nice mask off moment though.
>Hmmm…Talking in general, it gets boring how radfems never want to admit how some women are just evil to other women for no reason & make the choice to. its always blamed on moids, it gets particularly irritating when this excuse always pops up when it comes to racism & homophobia.
No. 1833561
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How can claim to hate men, and at the same time defend a film and pedo director that exhibits literal pedophilia and effectively serves as a snuff film, solely because you think art is aesthetically pleasing and "transgressive"
No. 1833785
>>1833679You need to post the actual milk or breakdown for such a claim. Going back there isn’t a lot of proof to your position and for such a bold claim there needs to be more other than words. This
>>1833561 is the not the same as being a pedo and reaching to claim as such, just an edgy faggot/degenerate.
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Lesbians don’t exist?
No. 1833983
>>1831969>>1833450>>1833972Why are they so obsessed with lesbians anyway? i mean, leaving aside (idk if you can though) the fact that they're obsessed with hating men and wish they were lesbians so they would have what they percieve as the "better" sex to be atracted to, it's just stupid social media circles, so what even is the point in pretending to have a sexuality that has been oppressed for centuries and deemed inmoral? especially when they're clearly into men, wich has always been seen as the right thing? i wonder how do these cows even go on through their life if they're this self hating about their attraction and obsessive with a random group of women that they don't even belong to.
Do any of these cows post their personal shit on their twitter accounts? genuinely curious
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>>1833487Isn't she right though? If you're going to date a moid you'll have to deal with that 90% of them find underage girls attractive. The only reason why there isn't under 20 yrs old girls in pic rel is because you couldn't go any lower.
No. 1834374
>>1833444Ah yes, shartfem aka nina, who "jokes" about touching little girls and has admitted to being aroused by female
victims crying about their trauma.
Jah is annoying, and it's funny that it took her this long to admit she's bisexual, but acting like nina was just innocently pointing shit out is not an accurate portrayal of the situation. nina had a raging hateboner for jah.
No. 1834822
>>1834814Wouldn't you rather have a decent conversation? And BTW I ain't hurting anyone but myself so my pipe is not going anywhere….
Do you hate yourself that much that you have to put others down and be a rank goof? Cmon now , rub one out and calm the fuck down
No. 1834842
>>1834808Please tell me you're not the
abortion nonna
(sage your shit) No. 1838561
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I'm convinced that suckherbergg/mARRRc is a moid/troon whose basically just posting his fetishes, I have seen plenty of radfems talk about hating men and even male children but it never as "malevolent" like male hatred, but suckherbergg talks about boys way to much and airs out weird fantasies of them being raped, killed or faced to get pregnant.
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>>1838561like this isn't misandry, this is just coomer moid humor.
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>>1838561>>1838574I am baffled as to how anyone could be convinced he was as a woman. I bet he snickers to himself whenever he posts crap like picrel, and radical feminists agree with him.
>>1838630He's also mentioned mpreg a couple of times in a way that specifically portrays it as degrading, which is the complete opposite of any sort of analysis from a feminist perspective
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>>1838845>>1838574>>1838630I Hate to break it to y'all, but there actually is a subset of fujo radfems whose hatred of males essentially mixes with their fetishes. such as
>>1831969 They justify the worst and most repulsive fetishes by saying, 'Oh, but men are worse, so you can't judge me.'"
so they will post aout m/m shota rape doujins, ao3 fics of underage actors being raped and worst of all use post about real CSA
victims and fantasize about them being raped and abused and there's a huge overlap between these fujo radfems and the pro-shippers and actual gay male pedophiles on twitter. Its just really messed up.
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>skinny girl coquette aesthetic + dworkin books
is this what they call comedic Irony? it reminds me of that guys who wore a Che Guevara shirt and a MAGA hat
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>>1839465Someone on Twitter mentioned that she had little boy legs, and I can't stop thinking about it. I guess Its fair to assume that she wants to look like an emaciated little boy, given her taste in directors.
No. 1845733
>>1845722>If you disagree with her you're a cock addicted male loverI am a black lesbian and she is literally explicitly saying discrimination against skin tone is irrelevant and only the biological sex factors into oppression. Its regressive and dumb, yes women are a special social class but we do not face treatment. Not every report to the police is treated equally and it's shown by which people have more cold cases. Also her post reeks of
victim blaming but that's a common theme with radfem cows. Because fear of community backlash is not unique to black dv
victims or character flaw. It's a common reaction that gets taken advantage of by abusers
No. 1845746
>>1845733How is she
victim blaming? She's saying the black women in her family don't call the police because of the misogyny they'll receive if they do call the police. If anything she's blaming the men. You're a black lesbian saying women should have solidarity with the same misogynistic demographic raping and killing them holy shit the absolute state of women
No. 1845916
>>1845794They're saying black women shouldn't mule on behalf of black men. AKA stop this BLM shit, it's mainly women behind those protests and black men would never return the favor. Black women should speak out against racism that only affects us,not shit that is primarily the issue of black men.
If another black man dies because of police brutality, unless you're his wife or something don't go marching in the street for him, save your energy for a black woman who experienced that.
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What is going on with the hosts of Redfem? They claim to be socialist feminist lesbians, but they frequently retweet content from right-wing and or pro-Russian shill accounts. They seem to be occupying the same space as "communists" who ally themselves with any force that oppose liberal democracy.
No. 1847610
>>1846082Black men do that well enough on their own. No need for me
a black woman to do that.
>>1847562Most white radfems are racist pickmes at the end of the day. Someone should dona graph on the overlap in beliefs between radfems and tradfems for keks.
No. 1848029
>>1847584gee i wonder what is wrong with an imperialist country that marginalizes it's indigenous populations and forces them to give up their languages and cultures and then goes ahead and uses them as fodder in wars because they are not white, i wonder what is wrong with a country that allows domestic violence, i wonder what is wrong with a country that is so fucking misogynist that they think being a doctor is a useless cheap shit career because most doctors are women, i wonder what is wrong with a country that hates gay people and who has been antagonist little shit toward it's neighbors for last hundreds of years.
i hate you american commie retards so much it's unbelievable american people are not human you are so stupid so retarded so fucking idiotic. (this applies to the retarded south american commies too kek) it's so obvious that people see other people and countries ad some prop in a story called usa versus the world, even people from other countries are plagued by this disease, so it is easy for them to act as if actual literal wars where actual people die is some sort of marvel movie where you choose the side.
you idiots are so ready to accept whatever horrible treatment of people if it's just done by someone who you view as some sort of countering power towards america, it doesn't matter, indigenous people, women and gays can be thrown under the bus because you gotta get to have you anti-american or anti-west or whatever rebellion you have to stick it to your boring parents. though in the case of russian loving tradthots gays and women and indigenous people getting hurt is just part of the bonus. anyway it never occurs to these types of people that russian women who have suffered because of their country's misogyny, the indigenous peoples, gay people from russia are actual living breathing people you can talk with you can share a meal with you can hug them kiss them on the cheek party with them talk with them laugh with them, just sharing my personal experiences here if that isn't clear, like they are real people who have suffered real hurt.
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>>1848250>>1848029Sage for OT, I and most people are well aware that Russia a shit-hole nation that has interests dominion over its neighbors and frankly we don't care much, For the entire world we have had to deal with the biggest bully in history, so for us Russia is just a nation whose fighting that bully, we don't care if they beat up their "kid brother", what matters for us if they can help in overthrow the US empire.
No. 1848402
>>1848327>frankly we don't care muchyeah i fucking know because you are a shit imperialist from a shit imperialist country so it is so easy for you to support another kind of imperialist country because it never fucking occurs to you that other kind of people from other nations are real actual people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i fucking know that you american shit pig!!!!!
>>1848356>they are actually doing somethingwhat?? what are they doing expect their own kind of imperialism?
kill americans and kill russians you all are shit imperialist pig who DESERVE TO BE SLAUGHTERED you will not regocnize the humanity of other peoples you will never see the soul and heart of humans from other nations you will always believe you are the main characters of the world and you all deserve death, death, death, death to usa, death to russia and citizens like you. you fucking animal, you little shit. ideological gardening, moralizing, we are talking about actual living people, i am a real person, my friends are real people, you little shit. imperialist sow, whore who takes the dick of empires, the cock sucker of colonization, that's who you are, a mindless whore, bitch that is fucked in the mind and cunt by imperialist thought and who carries the fat ugly babies of your fat ugly empires.
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>>1848086>these two have done more irl and actual leftist, feminist activism individually than everyone itt combined kekpromoting conservative dating and apps and retweeting mostly RW accounts, how is that feminism or leftism exactly.
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>>1852290>>1848414the former anti-nato freedom fighter seems to think there was nothing anti-imperialist in this war at all, almost like this weird USSR schizo idea you and other retards have russia is nothing but your idiotic fever dream.
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>>1850042>>1850040tbf, Jen is a very specific type of lesbian. They used to be called 'lesbros', which refers to lesbians who associate and hang out in male bro spaces (such as watching MMA and listening to that Navy Seal guy). So, it's not surprising that she retweets more right-wing associated content. Hannah's feminism is much more convincing
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well this is definitely a take
No. 1853104
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distasteful and desperate
No. 1853312
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what the hell is she on about?
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this bitch is so ugly she looks like a Mexican miss Kwan from cat in the hat lol
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>>1853312Her old usernames (allegedly)
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The original tweet was retarded but god this made me irrationally angry. That moment when you lean so far into being GC that you end up hating gender non conformity
No. 1857427
>>1857318it's funny to see how the mainstream GC movement has drifted more and more rightwards over the time. the tagline used to be "we support men wearing dresses, just don't call yourself a woman", then it became "we don't like men wearing dresses, but we tolerate it as long as you don't call yourself a woman" and now it's "actually, it's not okay to wear dresses or do anything gender nonconforming, ever, no matter what you call yourself".
i'm not surprised that some oldschool leftist radfems like mackinnon have come out as being nominally pro tranny just so they don't have to hang with these losers.
No. 1857525
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>>1857475Up until her massive meltdown over female separatists, she was posting pretty normal radical feminist stuff mixed in with some decent critiques of the more extreme elements of tumblr's female separatist wing. Then she veered off the rails when people started pushing back against her criticisms (some were straight up aggressive ngl). She freaked and kept responding to people with things like "THE EVIL WOMEN WHO LIVE IN MY COMPUTER GASLIT ME TO SUICIDE"
I tried to get some screenshots, but picrel happened.
No. 1857532
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>>1857525>>1857475picrel is what started everything. it went downhill from here.
No. 1857542
>>1857532>All these women are too innocent and naive >Nobody there had sexual encounters with men other than rapeWhat does she think "innocent" means
Also
>They were all super judgmental>They're not textbook BPD-chans so they're all loner anime nerdsThanks for posting this screenshot,
nonnie, what a mess.
No. 1858123
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What in the fuck?
No. 1858616
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Radfem or tardthot
No. 1858673
>>1858160I agree. Tumblr radfems think piling on one of their own for wrongthink is activism, despite the fact they (rightfully) complain about catching shit from handmaidens.
I think the linguistic change from "radical feminist" to "radfem" signified how screenpoisoned this faction of the movement is. It's all bizarre rhetorical posturing over recognizing a woman in crisis.
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Terri's gone full Baby Jane, really underscoring how ill-equipped she is to be giving out dating advice.
No. 1859300
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>>1859299If you're referring to the guy she was linked to when she stopped being "polilez", I think they were only dating for a couple of months. Other than that guy, the only other person that I'm aware of who she's been romantically linked to was Bev Jo
No. 1859475
>>1859300Nta
>Bev joWait… The 70 yr old lesbian radfem? They dated?
No. 1860075
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>>1860071>>1859297jfc these comments
No. 1861011
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Why do so many nu-radfems hype up simone de beauvoir, a woman who was actively helping men rape underage girls. She is a rape apologist through and through, there is no way to seperate her work from that when she wrote about it. Rape apologists women are patriarchal women.
No. 1861088
>>1861011"Why do feminists read feminist lit"
uh, because we're not afraid to get cooties from the writing? some of us are too old for this shit.
& there isn't a single woman who is without flaws including those who called themselves radical feminists. some of them have written about ideas they regretted entertaining when they were younger.
No. 1861157
>>1861136>for example, there's pedophilia and beastiality apologia in dworkindworkin bringing up hypopheticals and people misqouting her is not the same simone actively helping men in real life rape women and get away with it, or pressuring
victims to not say anything.
the issue is that everytime people try to defend simone the white wash what she did and contribute to rape culture
No. 1861243
>>1858616There's effectively zero difference between the two now, other than tardthots making more money off their "work".
>>1858999Every single misogynistic society says that mothers are uniquely important, since the belief flows seamlessly into the idea that women must put that role above all else to their own detriment for society to continue. No wonder why radfems get so cozy with violently misogynistic RWers when they effectively have the same beliefs. Women get the womby woo woo magical breastfeeding nonsense, men get to reap the benefits and maintain status as the actual movers, shakers, and innovators in society.
No. 1861644
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Can we post Ovarit caps here because lol. If you like grinding or permadeath better go on T and get a mastectomy.
No. 1861661
>>1861621And the RWers radfems adore like Matt Walsh, of the "teenage pregnancy is not a problem" and "12 year olds raped by their fathers should be forced to carry" fame, believes that being a mother is the most important role a woman can fill just like they do. The role of women as bangmaid incubators absolutely
is necessary for patriarchy to function, which is why they relegate women to that role and viciously react when we try to break free from it. It's not our personalities, intelligence, capabilities or talents that makes us useful to them, but our reproductive function–which makes us less people and more resources. Radfems, unfortunately, fell into hook, like and sinker, hence the radfem -> tradthot pipeline see in these threads.
I suggest that any women so in love with her insides try doing something with her brain instead. Children can be a joy to women who want them, and I am not saying this to shame mothers, but they are people, not your "creation". When you wake up one day in your middle age and the only thing you have to show for your time alive is calling you a cunt for telling them to put away their own dishes for once, bitterness soon follows. Less womby woo, more critical thought and innovation.
No. 1862250
>>1861661I agree that women aren't all ~destined to be mothers~ and motherhood has historically been (and still can be) used as a trap, but
1. Acknowledging that mothers inhabit a unique position in society isn't woo-woo and isn't reducing them to their status as a mother. It's not conceding any ground to men, either.
2. Most self-proclaimed "radfems" hate Matt Walsh and his ilk. Retarded reactionary homophobes who claim the label definitely like him though lol, I'll give you that
3. >I suggest that any women so in love with her insides try doing something with her brain instead.
It's not one or the other, suggesting mothers are all oblivious self-obsessed broodmares is misogynistic.
Can we please be normal about child-having vs child-free people? These conversations always end up with everyone splitting into camps and seething.
No. 1868322
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>Ben Shapiro is advocating second wave feminist demands
How the fuck do you come to that conclusion.
No. 1868813
>>1868322>it's very likely that Shapiro and the Daily Wire crew really do believe that marriage is a partnership between equalsThese are the guys who are proud of the fact that none of them know how to do laundry. All of them want to outlaw abortion and divorce, all of them hate childfree women, all of them believe in strict gender roles. None of them care about men being low achieving man babies because it makes them unattractive to women, they hate that muh birthrate is going down because men are such poor prospects and women aren't shackled with motherhood. How fucking stupid can someone be
Honestly I prefer trannies to the likes of her. At least they rightly despise conservatives and support divorce, birth control and abortion rights, even if they have to include troon surgeries as a package deal with them. Sorry I ever doubted Aiden, Rat and Bethani-Deluxxxe when they predicted that radfems were tradwives in training, they were right on the money kek
No. 1868819
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Tumblr drama 1/6
No. 1868854
>>1868841kek that's what i was thinking
>url is "talktomydoctorate">self-identifies as a short fat ugly woman>fanfic-esque over description of the scene i cannot believe this is a real person
No. 1868882
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>>1868841radblr has a tendency to believe obvious fake stories. I often see them circulate ragebait r/aita posts and pouring their hearts into analysing the situation when it's obvious it was written by a karmafarmer.
This particular tumblr post screams racebait. OP is probably having a good chuckle over the infighting that is happening in the notes
No. 1869253
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>>1831969Lol at the curious cats of some of the women on the screenshot
No. 1869444
>>1868960radical feminists including mackinnon have always shilled for and upheld rw men instead of denouncing them for trying to associate their rancid moid breath with the prestige radical feminism. if they criticized meese's neoliberal policies and denounced him they probably wouldn't have been invited to his anti porn commission which was clearly very effective. linda boreman even commented on their cowish self serving nature and felt exploited. andrea dworkin fawned over jerry falwell.
https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/26/style/joining-hands-in-the-fight-against-pronorgraphy.htmlradical feminism has a chronic problem of uncritical association with the rw.
No. 1869512
>>1869505i am female who prefers liberals with horrible foreign and economic policies like hilary clinton to rw w horrible foreign and economic policy who want to impose arbitrary trad tyranny on females. i prefer female freedom under otherwise similar circumstances.
i am more concerned with pro porn demands of liberals than their pushing trans other than trans kids. sorry you can't handle females having any criticism of the trads who hate us and the women who support them. at least if males are loudly demanding freedom to not be restricted to trad life i have that in common with them over what trad females want to force on me bc they're too ugly to get a man to pay for their life and they don't want to have to get a job.
No. 1869591
>>1869589Samefag
>>1869590, but stop trying to pretend you're a liberal while supporting homophobia and sexism. You just hate gay people and think short hair = man. You are the conservative.
No. 1869593
>>1869588i understand that genius. however the other options werent better in the case of clinton and trump put three supreme court justices in who are imposing trad tyranny over us for no reason, with no less war criminality. this threat was constantly discussed then, but people like you didnt' care at all. i do blame people like you who have zero concern for female issues even when its the one time it matters for this senseless attack on our rights.
>>1869590 when did i say liberals believe transes are the sex they claim to be? at least if theyre being trans they don't want to be trad. trad women
are just too ugly to get a man to pay for their life and bitter about it. no male is ever going to treat any ugly female well so why are we pandering to right wingers over some fiction of marriage worthy men. theyre not even pandering to rw women over anti porn anymore, not that that ever helped the movement, just andrea dworkin by expanding her audience for her $2500 lectures. a real socialist would criticize the trad's policies but that would hurt their career. instead shes this useless bitch all over again. did andrea dworkins pandering to the right stop porn or marginalization of radical feminism the right wing neoliberal takeover she didnt criticize ushered in?
>''On the other hand,'' she added, ''when Jerry Falwell starts saying there's real harm in pornograpy, then that is valuable to me. When the so-called liberals who claim to care about torture in prison in right-wing countries bring themselves to understand that a woman being tortured for entertainment is also a violation of women's rights, I'll be very grateful.''this person is even spreading propaganda that children shouldn't be separated from their mothers ever which is like veiled homeschooling (anti public school) talking points, when women let moids rape their children and schools can impose state mandated reporting and educate children on abuse and disclosure which can't be imposed on families.
i don't think any of the things you delusional people think. its clear i didn't say anything other than i think trad women are lazy ugly tyrants who don't want to get a job and i dont see any need for their arbitrary impositions on women that liberals are against.
radfems are retarded.
No. 1869597
>>1869594i said i PREFER trans to trads and its clear you people are always looking to ally with someone, in my humble opinion, the worse option. sorry you can't handle someone having a different opinion than "women's solidarity" is inherently a progressive political force, when it clearly historically hasn't been.
im more for which side will preserve what paltry freedoms women and children have. never remotely said transes aren't all those bad things you said. but radfems choose to ally with and pander to the people who want to impose rape sexism homophobia and female subjugation on the country via law over people who merely embody those qualities and can theoretically be ignored other than all the crazy shit they are demanding which is why they'll screw us over. sorry you cannot understand these concepts. nonetheless theyre my thoughts. you are the ones who got violent seething over me sharing my opinion without disparaging anyone in this thread.
No. 1869606
>>1869599we were literally discussing radfems sucking ben shapiros dick for no reason and how shit like this is disillusioning. they do shit like this constantly. if ur blind to it then that is mental retardation on radfems part again. hopefully it is irrelevant. radfems have historically allied with conservatives like edwin meese on anti pornography, do you believe that was a fruitful alliance? other than for padding andrea dworkins audience for her $2500 speeches with trad women? do radfems think their own history is anything worth considering? that is a rhetorical question.
i think people who don't want to live in the gender roles
that trads want to impose on them wouldn't want the arbitrary trad takeover that is happening and which i also don't want. though they feed into the rw agenda with their unsustainable medical child abuse demands so the rw takeover will happen, which was my actual comment, like a doomer statement but radfems are too retarded to not foam at the mouth over someone saying men in dresses is potentially less bad than men and women being trad and taking away abortion rights, legally guaranteed school for children, women's right to work, and whatever else.
No. 1869623
>>1869619Samefag
>>1869621, not to mention even when democrats are in power in the US women still lose their abortion rights and they do nothing about it while biden is dedicated to trans issues. Are you one of those sheltered Americans who thinks only the upper-class American viewpoint is the only one that matters and assumes every poster is from the US?
No. 1869624
>>1869612you are the ones who came aggressively at me for my sharing my thoughts without anger at anyone. if my comments on trad women offend you that doesn't make them untrue.
i have stated many times i am against transing kids. i also think transing kids is unsustainable and will end no matter what, and when it does the rw will take advantage of that inevitable outcome to throw women's rights under the bus. we don't need to ally with anyone for transing kids to come to the same end as the lobotomy. that is the first comment i made which got an
abusive stupid response from you all.
>>1869621sorry that having an opinion on actual reality as it is happening is too much for most people itt to comprehend. comments were being made on specific posts of people pandering to rw. i dont agree w it someone else doesn't agree w it. maybe not everyone itt does that but we are criticizing radical feminists especially ones in the media who do that. it's constant misconstruing here. radical feminists cannot allow any criticism or discussion of what actual radical feminist personalities are doing at all it seems.
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>>1869607There was also the Bay M case where feminists of all political spectrums (libfems, radfems, and socialists) and Conservative Christians from all political spectrums were in universal support of Mary Beth Whitehead, a mother of two in a custody battle against the sterns, over the right of their commissioned baby.
No. 1869629
>>1869624You: >you are the ones who came aggressively at me for my sharing my thoughts without anger at anyone
Also you:
> radfems sucking ben shapiros dick > mental retardation on radfems part again >>1869606>sorry if that explodes retard radfem brain in rage > will not take any criticism and foam at the mouth> radfems are too retarded to not foam at the mouth >>1869612> sorry you cannot understand these concepts. >>1869597> trad females want to force on me bc they're too ugly to get a man to pay for their life >>1869512Your rage fueled projection is just funny. No wonder anon clocked you. So you're just deranged and think saying you're a hypocrite is aggressive while posting like a deranged scrote.
>>1869606> radfems are too retarded to not foam at the mouth over someone saying men in dresses is potentially less bad than men and women being trad and taking away abortion rights, legally guaranteed school for children, women's right to work, and whatever else.Also, imagine pretending these two groups are different and not composed of the same men kek. The same women who support trannies reee not all men and how manhate is bad because transmen aka women are totes real men.
No. 1869632
>>1869630>>1869625 that is an isolated case, which is great to support individual cases. it's not a systemic problem like porn, a cause which would have required significant pushback against the reagan administrations domestic and foreign policy agenda that was unfolding as radical feminists collaborated with them uncritically. that is my opinion. I know opinions critical of radfem rw alliance aren't allowed here.
>>1869629lmbo you are so offended by the fact trad women are ugly and lazy and want to take it out on all women. that is what is really funny tbh. besides that all those responses are responses to people itt accusing me of being a male bc i think allying w trads is worse than men in dresses. i said that wo being rude to anyone. its how i feel. that is why i called you retards bc everything is misconstruing and raging and incomprehension of whatever my
valid thoughts are which wasn't attacking anyone. i was attacked.
ok maam. whatever you say. you clearly cannot comprehend that if there are trad elites in power in the supreme court and an extreme rw agenda that has been gaining power, that people who don't want to live in the roles
that agenda would impose on them specifically even if they want to replicate those roles
in an unacceptable way to the agenda in power are better
to me than the people (ugly and lazy trad women) who want to live in those roles i dont want and transes dont want in the form the rw in power would impose on them. its just my opinion i stated without being rude to anyone here and people started foaming at the mouth at which point i called them too stupid to understand.
>>1869630 its too late. what happened should never have. if dems were in power then it wouldn't have happened. thats my point and it is true. idc about anything else but emphasizing that the left recklessly hurt women then.
No. 1869800
>>1869505I'm
>>1868813Yep, totally prefer troons to radfem trads. Annoying as they are troons still support the right to access abortion, birth control and divorce, and don't simp for conservatives. Rad trads can barely contain themselves when it comes to gushing over Matt Walsh, a hyper misogynistic tradcath who believes in child marriage, making abortion and divorce illegal, because he hates troons just like they do. Many show support for DeSantis and Trump for their anti-trans laws, and they're willing to cozy up to Nazis too. Why do you think so many RWNJs come to this site looking for a
TERF gf? Why did a GC org spout the immortal phrase "you have to hand it to the Taliban"?
Sucks to suck, but troons have a better track record when it comes to actually supporting women's rights than GCs. If I have to call some 5'1 fat girl Clarence to have abortion rights, that's what I'll do.
>>1869625You mean the case they lost because Mary Beth Whitehead was a psycho who kidnapped the baby and threatened to kill her multiple times? Why should she have any rights on the basis of genetic connection? Birth isn't a feat. It doesn't entitle you to anything. It's not a conscious act, and no, any brats you push out are not your "creation". You're owed nothing for breeding.
You do realize cons supported rad in this case because their woo woo womby ideologies are in ideological lockstep, right? Genetic connection trumping actual parenting capabilities or the wellbeing of the child is the same logic they use to justify rapists having parental rights and preventing divorce. You'd think finding yourself on the same side as violent misogynists would give you pause, but I guess rads are too busy waxing poetic about bleeding after pushing out their Nigel's spawn to care.
No. 1869837
>>1869805>Mary Beth did not kidnap her breast-feeding infant.Yes, she did. She and her husband kidnapped the baby and fled the state. Lactating does not confer ownership.
>However, when with no prior chance to hire a lawyer, the Sterns sent the police to seize her baby in her own home.If you want to go by the genetic lineage = unassailable ownership narrative, then William Stern was just as entitled as she was, given that he was the genetic father–and far and away a more capable caregiver, given Whitehead's instability.
>She gave the child to her husband to stay with her in-laws in Florida. She kidnapped the baby, but very funny how even under your misinterpretation she irresponsibly left Melissa in the care of a non-related male. So much for muh genetic relations kek
There was one threat she made when she was delirious - 'I gave birth to the baby and I can take her away' - and no other.
She made multiple repeated threats to Melissa's life during a nearly hour-long conversation William Stern managed to record. It was part of the reason she was found unfit and why custody was rightly awarded to the Sterns. If she were in fact that delirious for that long, she was totally unfit to parent.
>She tried to be a part of her daughter's life throughout the whole thing *Elizabeth Stern's daughter
Melissa Stern, the girl in question, terminated any rights Whitehead had and affirmed Elizabeth's status as her mother as soon as she reached legal adulthood and stated she loved her true parents and was happy she ended up with them. Actually caring for the child is what matters, not the bleedy breedy nonsense.
I know rad trads by and large accomplish nothing with their lives save for breeding and hate to hear this, but the children you push out are not your "creations". They owe you nothing, least of all their affection. You do not own them. They are not yours. Yes, even though pregnancy sucks and you got all bloody and ripped up pumping them out. That doesn't matter. Suffering is not a virtue, and you aren't a better person for it.
>and its fucked up that your siding with a rich man over a woman who was used like a commodityWhy are you acting like she had no choice in the matter? Again, this is an example of so-called radical feminist thought seamlessly easing into conservative ideology–women are hapless idiots with no agency who can't be trusted to make their own decisions. Ideological lockstep. She wasn't "used", she made the decision to enter into a contract; one that never should've been drawn up in the first place since surrogacy(traditional esp) is ethically dubious at best, but it was her decision still. She wasn't a
victim then, and certainly wasn't one when she was threatening to kill Melissa so she wouldn't have to return her to her parents.
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>>1869859Did you see the tags and her replies? I'm starting to develop a tinfoil that pakichan is Menalez. At the very least she has to be the one who always spams 2X about how Dworkin is a fat jew.
No. 1869966
>>1869859The funniest thing about Menalez is how she assumes all women she likes aren't white. She's done this with like five women now where she refers to them as
POC because she likes them, then when she gets corrected she starts acting cold towards them. Not denying the racism in radical feminism but she has pretty obvious mental problems kek.
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I don't know how anyone fell for this moron, Dworkin especially was most likely a mentally ill, and probably a fabulist who may have even convinced herself of her own fabrications.
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No. 1870195
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>>1869966come on who cowtipped menalez
No. 1870453
>>1870160agree that racism is an issue (see: apostleofsappho) but the people she's arguing with are total randos that i have never seen before in my life, or even seen radfems reblogging. menalez will find the most random people to fight with then work herself into a fury over it kek.
>>1870195no one needs to cowtip her because she is an absolute stereotype bpdchan and she is 100% lurking and posting here herself.
No. 1870897
>>1870860>i have no idea why it's such a big problem in virtually every community that bi women in particular are treated so horribly.They're not "treated so borribly" they have been called out for being polilez (there are so many of those on radblr, menalez included.)
>bi women are victimized at higher rates than lesbiansBy men. I wonder why.
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>>1870908>>1870160>>1870173we call them reichfems, surprisingly many are actually Turkish who used to be standard feminists but became radicalized with the Arab refugees in their country. So it's a complex relationship because they denounce misogyny and coomerism of their own men and can tone down their racism when necessary with other feminists, but they are very nationalist.
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>>1870921damn went through her #p tag and the first thing that comes up is this pic of her absolutely gnarly scars. these have got to be the worst ive ever seen, definitely adding weight to the bpdchan tinfoil. also she's definitely not half black either kek race fakers are so pathetic
No. 1871088
>>1871056Radblr is a perfect illustration of how aimlessly posting online is the fakest type of activism. It's 90% nitpicking about absurd hypotheticals and/or flat out lying to win stupid arguments.
>>1871075KEK
No. 1871109
>>1871075WTF is that true???? I didn't knew.
>>1871088What do you mean lying to win stupid arguments? I used to really like radblr and they seemed very cool as a community, but after some months constantly there, you can just see how much they are not willing to do what they say is good. Female separatism here, terftopia there, but as soon as ONE woman says anything they don't agree it's time to witchunt the girl. I wonder if they could really do anything materially good when everything they know how to do is donate organizations. Good, it's very cool to donate, but change starts at our day-to-day lives and the little changes in woman's lives, not donating and just letting the damage be made to the marginalized women or just really any woman.
No. 1871113
>>1871109Yes, I realize a lot of orbiters might not know the price of weed but prior to deactivating, she posted about how she was going to get another oz (100-200$ USD currency) from her plug for the bubblegum pink strain. This was already after spending at least 400$ on weed (she showed the bag on her blog like an idiot stoner). I have screenshots somewhere I can try and find to post later, but the timing of it all pissed me off.
It’s possible she spent more than 400 USD for the 2.5 oz, but she’s spent at least half of 1k in total on drugs within the same month of her ebegging.
>>1870860Bi women do oppress lesbians, you imbecile. Did you miss Milo (macroclit) saying that she believes lesbians can happily date TIMs? Of course lesbians are going to be angry at bi women’s lesbophobia.
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>>1871113This was the weed she posted in the midst of the month of all of the drama happening.
No. 1871122
>>1871117KEK, this shit is so infuriating, i wonder how the people who helped her felt. Do you know if she was able to abort, at least? I wasn't able to see how things had gone so i'm extremelly curious right here, thanks for the cap, nonna.
>>1871118Saying lesbians can date TIMs isn't literally ignoring the reality of being female and the fact that lesbians are naturally attracted to females? Other than that, i don't really see how bisexual women oppress lesbians too. Must be ignorance. To be honest, i see a lot of… uhm… contempt? Towards bi women in radblr that makes me believe that the lesbians there really are a bit prejudiced towards bi women. I just think that all that bi women and lesbian shit makes everyone forget that the root of the problem is the relationship of those women with males. Males are going to be violent to any woman, wether she's lesbian, straight or bi, in a romantic/sexual setting or no, every woman is in danger with males. Dating males is no privilege, because, well, you are going to be abused anyways. Not dating males is also no privilege, because, well… you are going to be
victim of their violence/simple systematical power anyways! It's like saying a pretty woman has beauty privilege when beauty privilege is just being seem as a piece of meat, and being ugly is being seem as a piece of rotting meat. It may seem like the beautiful female is loved but in reality she's just an asset for a male/male gaze.
No. 1871127
>>1871118Girl… Bi women oppress lesbians by acting like homosexuality isn’t possible, they oppress lesbians when they sexualize other women with their moids, they oppress lesbians when they claim that they’re no different than a lesbian because they both have SSA despite the experiences of both bi and lesbian women still being different. The reason why you will see lesbians talk about this is because of how common it is for us to be silenced by bisexuals when we try to speak on it, no matter how gentle we try to be in our approach. Bi women aren’t all godawful, don’t get me wrong, febfems are lovely women but women in general are oppressed by men and it doesn’t stop there. Women can and do oppress other women on the axis of race, sexuality and even class status. I can’t count the amount of times I have been involved with other radical feminists who were bi, that ended up treating me like a moid because of my being strictly SSA. Growing up as a lesbian, we are made to feel like freaks by other women on the basis of our homosexuality, regardless of if they are bisexual or heterosexual. A middle class woman oppresses women in poverty, despite that same middle class woman being oppressed by the 1% of rich, famous women. I hope that comparison makes some sense, I’m multi tasking and don’t wish to come off as accusatory when I do believe you want to try and understand what the issue is. I appreciate your agreement that her take on lesbians dating TIMs was insane, for example.
No. 1871136
>>1871127It makes a lot of sense now, nonna. I'm totally aware of the way straight/bi women see lesbians, as if you were disgusting/strange/sexual predators in some waym, i have seen that happen many times in real life, and yeah, that doesn't go towards bi women (bi women are often seem as just having fun/not dangerous/not really all that attracted to females) while there's problems in seeing seem like that, it's trully better than being seem as a threat by other women. I really had no idea/had not thought of those things so i appreciate your patience. I was being simplistic when looking back at what i said, so yeah.
>>1871129Well, not so bad. Hope she doesn't scam people again.
No. 1871153
>>1871149Totally. When you talked about bi people acting like homosexuality isn't possible i was like "oh, but i have never thought anything like that in my whole life", but i'm not everyone and i know very well people can be crazy/unempathetic at horrendous levels, so i imagine what you must have dealed with/what homosexual women must have dealed with. Thanks again for being so careful.
>>1871140It's very mature to admit you were wrong, nonna! It's good that you never experienced homophobia. I feel like that the problem is mostly lack of empathy from bi women and the fact that lesbians and bi women are different so they both may feel totally different towards things.
No. 1871162
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>>1871031she had an entire era where she talked about being black all the time and it's still at the top of her faq. her bio used to say "dark skinned afro-arab woman" and when she got called out for obviously not being dark skinned or black she was like well i never claimed to be dark skinned by BLACK standards even though that was obviously the implication. she really is like a reverse effina kek
No. 1871181
>>1871140Ntayrt but I wanted to chime in and say I honestly think part of the friction between bi women and lesbians is feelings of personal betrayal. Lesbians expect men to fuck us over, we expect straight women not to understand us, and we are used to being isolated. Bi women are the closest people we have to kindred spirits, so when even they treat us like freaks, it hurts in an even more personal way. If even SSA women are telling us it's unnatural to have 0 interest in men, it makes us defensive, mistrustful, and insular.
Many bi women are lovely and levelheaded, especially febfems who prioritize women and acknowledge our differences (and similarities!), but many are not like this and walk all over us and treat us like garbage, so this leads to animosity. There are lesbians who really tried to coalition build with bi women and then got burned, and so now they are skeptical of bi women, which in turn makes bi women feel alienated. Bi women wonder why they're being treated like potential traitors and lesbians wonder why bi women can't understand our hesitation, and this hurts our ability to work together. I think a bit of empathy would go a long way for repairing this coalition though.
No. 1871196
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>>1871169>>1871162Sage for OT, but I knew someone just like this in University. He was half Turkish, had light brown hair, green eyes, and was pretty pale. However, he would go on and on about white people and takes straight out of black twitter and despite the fact that 100% people thought he was just a white guy with a beard, he would adamantly claim he was a "racialized
POC"
No. 1871199
>>1871181I agree with you. I'm not a lesbian but looking through a lesbian woman's perspective, i totally understand that, imagine having someone that understands you and this person chooses your "enemy" (males) or replaces you with a male. I would feel so hurt. It must feel like such a betrayal, and there's also the ones who use other women as a way of fetishing themselves for their boyfriends.
I do kinda admit that i sometimes ask myself HOW straight women can not be atleast bi, though? Maybe it's just me being bi but women are so wonderful and i can't imagine simply not wanting to love them LOL, sorry for kinda blogpost.
No. 1871221
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least moronic radfem.
No. 1871234
>>1871113yeah, i did actually miss that. i made my post before that came out, i believe, but macro deleted now so i can't verify it. regardless, i didn't see it when i wrote what i did, so yeah. not sure how that makes me an imbecile kek. but you're right, i do think this is a genuine example of how bi women can be complicit in the struggles lesbian face. however i disagree that this means they are oppressors of lesbians overall.
many bi women do awful, harmful things towards lesbians, as
>>1871127 touched on in her post. but where i think i disagree is the idea that this should be considered in itself oppression. to use a probably flawed example, i don't think NLOG women who shit on other women to males are oppressing women. they are
victims of misogyny like any woman, and while they are being openly complicit in furthering that, they aren't oppressors. all women who experience genuine SSA are considered deviant on the basis of their sex and their sexuality, and experience oppression because of it. the specifics and intensities of how bisexual and lesbian women are treated in their SSA can vary (i.e. with the former being treated as "unserious" in their love for women and the latter being treated as predatory for their love), and this is because they are different groups. but lesbians are not oppressed by homophobic men because they're lesbians specifically…they're oppressed because they are attracted to women, aka homosexual. again, only the specifics of their oppression differ on that axis. both groups are oppressed for their homosexuality.
if some SSA women choose to demonize other SSA women in the process of being oppressed, this makes them bad people, yes, but not necessarily a member of the oppressor class.
that said, i do actually understand some of the bad blood between lesbians and bi women, despite my original post. when you're backed into a corner by society because you're a woman who loves other women, you become hypersensitive to all sorts of potential prejudice against you; you have to be, after all. anything less would put you in danger. still, i think it's sad that it exists so strongly even in a community focused around supporting women. still, on my end i hope to help remedy the burned bridges by pushing for more bi and het women to actually listen to lesbians, and not cry misogyny or biphobia instantly whenever they're called out by them. but again, i haven't been fully convinced that any prominent radblr lesbians in particular would do the same for me. doesn't mean i won't, but again, it's sad. sorry for the longpost i just love having genuine conversations with you nonas!!
No. 1871278
>>1871239I always forget to sage, so sorry. I don't think so, because in all history who have been gathering food and making all the work were women, hunting was responsible for less than 50% of the food, it was unstable and also the hunting methods were not force based but instead they looked after sick animals, rests of the killings of others predators, etc. Actually, communities were based around women since they were the ones who had to gather to take care of the children, males often would just go away because, well, a long time ago people didn't even knew men had any place in women's pregnancy. They thought it was something magical resulting from menstruation rather than sexual intercourse. Males have never been "fathers" and the myth of the father has been a way of getting power over females and their capacities of producing the essential value that is life. I don't know if most women are bi, though. I hope. But anyways in patriarchy they are always going to ignore that/not express because it's deemed disgusting/degenerate and there's many more systemic advantages in having a relationship with men (women are more poor than men, in constant danger of rape and much more).
(sage your shit) No. 1871289
>>1871239> most women are at least a little bi.not true lol, there's no bi women. it's pornsick women who are saturated with our pornsick media who think "yeah that woman is attractive" but would never eat pussy. isn't it something like 90% of "bi" women are "het partnered"? I'm tired of pretending bisexuality's real. it comes up way too often, derails everything, and it's boring.
I don't think bi women oppress lesbians, tho. I'd really like to move away from this stupid card game we seem eager to play. "I put down a white lesbian card to trump her brown lesbian, but she played a white bi woman card! I lost!" That's so dumb. Individuals don't oppress individuals. That's how we live in a patriarchy but some men still have shit outcomes. Let's please at least be smarter than moids.
No. 1871308
>>1871305Some of them do, a lesbian vent thread
aka bisexual hate thread has already been made, I guess the rest of them are too retarded to use it
No. 1871329
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The absolute irony of her calling herself not fat and ugly in the caption is hilarious. I have to post it in two parts because I didn’t save it properly before Macroclit deactivated.
No. 1871330
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>>1871329Caption that was attatched to her post.
No. 1871404
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bihet-meanie was revealed to have went back to dating the moid she dated when she was 17. She pretended to be a lesbian on radblr for years, purely typing in pink text.
No. 1871406
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>>1871404Why do polilezzies always look like… Dworkin?
No. 1871408
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The polilez phenotype… Fat and ugly kek.
No. 1871456
>>1871424Nta but
>If you disagree with me being a retard you must be one of the people I hate reeeeProving
>>1871300 right every minute kek. Anon is right, being ugly isn't milk (not to mention the samefaging) and you're an embarrassment newfag. At this point might as well try and find out who the person being posted upset because it's retard social media cows posting their enemies kek.
No. 1871457
>>1871424Samefag
>>1871456>It's not very radfem to think a girl/women being ugly isn't milk.KEK. You are retarded vendettafag. This is why you losers should stick to dying shit like twitter instead of trying to pollute imageboards with your unhinged seething, it's supposed to be anonymous and you fail to mask yourself.
No. 1871516
>>1871329>>1871408Sure, beeline to calling a woman fat and ugly to prove how wrong and cringe they are. Fuckin nailed it, i wasnt convinced by their flagrant retardation but thank god I know they're big uggos now
>>1871429>>1871324This website is full of people whose only experiences and relationships have been online. They don't get how normal human interaction works and they don't have empathy for anyone that deviates from the narratives political schizos have been shoving down their gullets since they were teens.
No. 1871518
>>1871457I don't think she's a vendettafag because the one who brought up the topic of this macroclit person was me, out of curiosity, she just brought info.
I don't think she's not bringing milk because this macroclit girl actually asked people for money for aborting and then appeared with a lot of weed after, and was overall lesbophobic before, as said by the anon giving info. This girl do seems very milky, it seems like you nonnas are being dramatic over one (1) piece of info she gave, but haven't been here to give any type of milk either. Also, i constantly see people dragging the looks of other people in their respective threads, like in grimes thread (you could say that it happens but the thread is just for grimes, but in her thread you also find people dragging aella's looks before aella herself had a thread). It doesn't seem like there's any big problem here and the topic at hand is related to a radfem, but she's on tumblr rather then twitter, that's it. I also don't understand saying we are vendettafags or anything like that just because we are talking about tumblr, there could be as much selfpost in a twitter focused thread, so why are we selfposting/vendetta posting just because it's about tumblr and we said a milky person was ugly?
No. 1871521
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macroclit apologized
No. 1871573
>>1871567>>1871567There is alot of them and I wished I still remembered their handles but I don't.
But I will say one thing and that's that Leah is completely different when you met her compared to her videos. She acts insane in videos but when I talked to her she looked so awkward and she didn't know what to talk about, she didn't look like that extrovert she portrays herself as.
I also had some experience with parkie possie (or however she was called) before she became full right-wing and she was okay. I'm really disappointed what she became. It really does feel like a lot of radfems or women who label themselves tergs go through the right wing or trad route and I'm kinda thankful I didn't end up becoming like that.
No. 1871590
>>1871576>>1871573Meghan Murphy kind of went the same direction. I can't find it, but she had an interview with Kate Herzog (not one of the ones on youtube) where they talked about disowning the feminist label and how she liked Mexican men's machismo (or something… it was really fucking weird). This was right after a bunch of TRAs violently threatened her at some event and feminists didn't stand up for her.
Her site is still called Feminist Current and covers feminist issues, so she may have changed her mind. But she definitely had a backlash moment.
There's also Terry Strange, but she's been all over the fucking place since she first logged on.
As for Parker Posey, I think her only feminist credential was being gender critical. Many such cases. Vidrel, 56:00 in
No. 1871599
>>1871585What ecochamber, girl? I can't understand according to the things i have read/seem/learned. I think someone should be able to absorve knowledge and not turn into a totally different person once she gets out of a community/identity. If you are always going into extremes you haven't learned shit. Well, if you can understand it better, i can't understand turning trad and submissive towards the people who commit 97% of the crimes, rape women, traffic women, abuse, kill, humiliate, and all that shit. I need no ecochamber to understand that simple fact. No ecochamber will relativize material reality.
It's hard to understand that wich seems dumb to me, that's it.
No. 1871601
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From an orbiter. She says she's not a rad, but is constantly in their business
No. 1871602
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No. 1871610
>>1871602tonguehurt has has been a personal cow of mine for a while. she's a 19 year old terminally online self diagnosed "sociopath" who thinks looking at gore on the internet and saying kys on tumblr means she has antisocial personality disorder. she is obsessed with necrophilia and rape and cannibalism and posts her sexual fantasies in detail, also watches necrophilia porn and snuff and defends it because she's a lesbian despite criticizing other women for watching porn. she used to go by tagai and was a tif until last year when she got peaked on trannies and joined radtwt and got big on there despite admitting to never reading any radfem theory. then she got blackpilled within a month, and started getting in drama with everyone and sending rape threats and gore to other women she had beef with. she stopped being a radfem because she "hates women" and posted autistic rants about how she "wants all cock sluts to be raped and forced into porn because they love semen and
abusive men," and is a "misandrist" who thinks men raping straight women is good because they deserve it apparently. then she moved to orbiting radblr despite "not being a radfem" and had extensive beef with another cow menalez. she made a 100+ page callout document on her for being a lesbian larper. she also says she has no life and no in person friends and all she does is sit on tumblr and jerk off to porn all day. i read her blog because it always makes me feel way better about my life kek
No. 1871616
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>>1871585>>1871576I posted this before but it fits better here, there was a phenomenon till the late 2000's, where some young people switched between various extremist ideologies such as communism or fascism. While primarily young men took part in the phenomenon, women also participated. you could find Neo-Nazi women who were former women's studies majors. many young people, who may be struggling to find their identity and sense of belonging, seek out perceived extremist groups as a way to rebel or engage in petty acts of aggression.
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"You all just think my necrophilia is a problem because I'm a lesbian" -lul
No. 1871880
>>1871871i posted both
>>1871610 and
>>1870908 and i am neither tonguehurt nor menalez, i just lurk on radblr for the drama kek. they are both major radblr cows who fight with everyone, including each other, how is it strange that they would be brought up at around the same time?
No. 1871884
>>1871630people who think necrophilia is okay think like rapists. they think they have the right to use someone else's body as a resource, as sexual tool for themselves. they say that "what does it matter since they are dead and can't know what's happening?" you could same make the same argument about raping a person in coma or a sleeping person, and the only problem of rape isn't the damage caused to the
victim, it's the whole attitude of a rapist that they are entitled to someone else's body and view them as objects for them to use. if someone supports necrophilia they have a rapist mentality, massive red flag.
No. 1871941
>>1871889This thread has to be in the top 5 when it comes to having the most self-posters. It's just filled with terminally online retards who are refreshing any mention about them here.
>>1871699>>1871871god, you obese retard. Can you be more subtle next time if you plan to whiteknight yourself.
>>1871797How dense are you. She marched with a self-identified nazi group and instead of disowning them…she thanked them for protecting her and marching with her. There is other shit too that she did that I forgot. Does she need to have a swastika on her head so autistic retards who can't understand subtle things or dogwhistles would know she ponders to the alt-right. (Majority of gender critical do unfortunately)
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>>1871408I love seeing them all go at each other’s throats. They’re all vile in their own ways and hate each other so much that I can’t but laugh.
No. 1871985
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>>1871957nta but yes tagai is obese she was bragging about being 144 lbs at 5'0" and how skinny and anorexic she thinks she is. also she censored the bmi even though she posted her height and weight kek?
No. 1871994
>>1871941posie parker has also appeared on multiple podcasts by hard right nationalist and nazis.
there's also that famous clip where she and her white karen gang showed up at a BLM protest and yelled "wash your balls!!!" and "you're a man!!!" at a bunch of young black women.
the minute anyone in the GC movement says anything that could be construed as being vaguely pro trans, they are excommunicated and labeled as a handmaiden and the enemy, but when it comes to blatant right wing scrote simping, right wing misogyny, racism, nationalism, nazism etc. it's always ohhh she didn't mean that, she's actually a centrist, stop dividing women, we need them on our side … kek.
you can tell a lot women in this movement don't pay any attention to politics unrelated to troonism, because this is straight out of the far right concern trolling infiltration playbook first pioneered by stormfront. they're going to have a rough awakening when the charade drops in a few more years and all their favorite GC influencers publically come out as anti-abortion.
No. 1872095
>>1871616This looks more like "expectation vs reality," unless I'm missing something?
>>1871941>This thread has to be in the top 5 when it comes to having the most self-posters. It's just filled with terminally online retards who are refreshing any mention about them here. Is that why there's all these posts about orbiters instead of actual radical feminists?
>>1871994>>1872061Agree with all of you. There's a backlash building against TRAs now, but the "radical feminist" backlash is coming in the next few years. People claim the label who don't hold any actual feminist beliefs, they're just normie gender critical people or full on far right freaks. Radical feminists who should know better support and defend these people, especially on twitter.
Not to mention the terminally online young women who call themselves radfems seem… indoctrinated? That word feels too strong, but I'm struggling to find a better one. Young people's brains have been pickling in out-of-context, unreal social media "politics" during their formative years, and I think it's all just complete theoretical or disconnected from reality to them. Their politics don't seem like they're coming from a place of free thought or a genuine wish to change the world, but a persona or weird hobby.
"We're not gonna make it" etc.
No. 1872097
>>1871994Thankfully it's not like that in
woc radfem spaces, they call a lot of this shit out. There's a lot of calling out even other radfems for that kinda hypocrisy and pandering to the people eagerly stealing our reproductive rights
Not telling you to gravitate there if it's not something you're comfortable with, just trying to provide some optimism
No. 1872109
>>1871994>they're going to have a rough awakening when the charade drops in a few more years and all their favorite GC influencers publically come out as anti-abortion."Radfems" already simp for Matt Walsh and the other Daily Wire freaks, all of whom oppose abortion even for little girls. Matt "diaper fetishist" Walsh recently came out against all feminism, even 1st wave, saying it was anti-family and the one of the worst things to ever happen to society, and they still simp. The "Hands Across the Aisle" cons and anti-abortion, and they simp. DeSantis made abortion effectively illegal in Florida, but hates troons, so they simp. Multiple radfems accounts have come out and said they'd sacrifice abortion rights for anti-troon laws. Radfems to this day publish in right wing rags, and the anti-trans "movement" is vast majority conservative. aT lEasT thEy knOwS wHaT wOmEn aRe!!!
There's no getting the cat back in the bag. Being GC is a regressive, conservative ideology now.
No. 1872120
>>1872109>Being GC is a regressive, conservative ideology now.That's a stretch and incredibly defeatist. Feminist rejection of socially imposed gender norms is not the same as conservatives' belief that society needs strictly enforced gender norms to function.
Feminists believe that men can be feminine without needing to transition into women and oppose reductive gender stereotypes used by rabid TRAs; conservatives think transgender people are some sort of turbogay, therefore bad.
Just because some dipshits on the internet are reaching across the aisle doesn't mean we need to abandon the whole project. Btw, a lot of internet feminists vocally reject bigots like Walsh.
No. 1872123
>>1872120Same anon, I want to clarify that I get what you're saying about public perception of "gender critical" beliefs, but I still think this is a defeatist line of thinking. Normie women are generally FAR more sympathetic to radical feminist analysis on this subject (as long as you don't call it radical feminist analysis) than they are to Daily Wire insects sperging about the nuclear family. Radical feminists just need to stick to the basics and be more compassionate to transgender people instead of trying to snark at TRAs to save women's spaces and sex based rights. I'm embarrassed by the twitter freaks as much as the next feminist, but I'm not conceding any ground. Plenty of women are fighting the good fight without embracing the right wing. It sucks that the feminist who
do embrace them will be used as ammunition against us.
No. 1872241
Sage for rant, but why are terminally online radfem spaces so retarded, especially Radblr? They treat radical feminism like it's a fandom, and it's so obvious they can't actually think for themselves. They're more focused on inventing tropes for themselves like "factfem" and "rudefem" and turning to the same identitarianism they pretend to hate than actually reading/discussing theory or female liberation. Even their black-and-white thinking about the evil libfems vs. the based radfems screams autist, it's like the new "Potterheads get your wands" fandom blogger vs. hipster blogger wars, I don't know how the fuck this is supposed to convince anyone they're sane and worth listening to. There are so many variations of feminism, but if you listened to Radblr, you wouldn't know that. They're so convinced they're smarter and better than TRAs, but imo they are also very bad about holding their own accountable, examining their beliefs, and turning ideology into a personality trait/fashion accessory. They're out here getting scurvy from their NEETism, fucking married men, keeping up years long fart fetish "bits", getting into polycule drama, leaking each other's Discord messages, following tradcaths and caping for right wingers, and then they wonder why no one takes them seriously as a Proper Movement. Radblr is packed full of self-unaware cows, and it's equal parts fascinating and bleak.
No. 1872259
>>1872241>They treat radical feminism like it's a fandom,Exactly this , I didn't know how to describe it in words but Fandom is exactly what I felt. They behave like a
toxic kpop Fandom instead of like a….. actual movement.
Also I don't know if things have changed but when I was a radfem you weren't allowed to speak up or call out misoginy from other radfems because if you did then the polilezs would label you as lesbophobic. Things like this happened regularly and I saw it happen to other radfems who called out the crazy or reactionary radfems. It happened to me once too, I was defending this one radfem from another radfem who was harassing her by calling her sexist slurs and then that radfem basically resorted to calling me lesbophobic (despite me not saying anything remotely homophobic).
It's a regular silencing tactic to put women in their place and make them shut up and it reminds me of troons since they do the same thing (oh you called me out for being a creep well your transpobic)
No. 1872271
>>1869444I genuinely think that radical feminists fucked themselves by teaming up with right wing moids and trad thots in the 80s and it plays part in the rise of pick me liberal feminism with the third wave beginning in the 90s. And some of them re doing it again now. They've learned nothing.
>>1871590Meghan Murphy claims getting banned off of twitter is what caused her to start rejecting the feminist label. Another consequence of "my dog ate my rotted pseudo-clit" Jonathan Yaniv. She's found a home mildly grifting off of rightoid males like Benjamin Boyce, probably the most uncharismatic of all rightoid grifters. Her giggly interviews with him are pure cringe. At the same time, she still discusses actual feminism a lot. She namedropped The Transsexual Empire on Joe Rogan and credited radical feminist with being the first to stand up to troons on his show. She is still anti-sex work. In fact, I'd say the majority of her views are still solidly feminist/rad fem, but she fell down the "icky feminism label I'm a true freethinker now" hole.
Posie Parker is good at being direct and focused when she speaks about the troon menace and their threat to women, but get her off that topic, and she sounds like any other dumb trad thot. I think she cares to an extent, but her grifting is also really obvious.
No. 1872284
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>>1871521She’s still racist and lesbophobic.
No. 1872508
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>>1872284>>1872288wait radicaldumbass is macroclit? does she just keep coming back to tumblr under different aliases to stir up more shit? also of course menalez was involved with that situation too lmao
No. 1872520
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this shit is so funny. aww, now i kinda miss the radblr confessions blog kek.
No. 1872573
>>1872288>you fucked up when you lied to me milo.KEKKKK the fucking lowercase + direct name calling + period at the end
She's so online and pathetic, my god
No. 1872644
>>1872531radical feminism should be as divorced from online drama culture as it fan be yet here you are, trying to sow discord.
some of those gossip blog seem like a place for orbiters and filthy casuals to vent so they don't really matter anyway but you have to wonder if the childish crap is what drives away all the older women from the site. exgynocrat left Tumblr in 2015 or 2016 and auntiewanda, a veteran on radblr never remade. eventually all that will be left will be the shit posters and 18-year-olds who are just pissed in general and who will drift away from feminist comms the moment their buddies stop enabling them. bleak
No. 1872652
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>>1871678r0achie, former stanabortion
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scrolling thru my dash rn
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>>1872678She's so milky she had to change her name from Jess to Adrian to hide from her previous online persona and all the shit she would start on Tumblr and elsewhere. She has a habit of joining social groups and making herself out to be some kind of leader and starting shit when people don't behave according to her exact principles, even outside of rf circles.
She also keeps making GFMs for stuff like groceries but then it turns out her wife and her have undergone multiple rounds of unsuccessful IVF that keeps failing and they keep begging for money online. Bitch can't afford food but can afford IVF and we're supposed to believe they can afford to raise children?
She also calls straight women spermholders and breeders and other such names which is really funny considering she paid a small fortune to have her wife Ellen medically turned into a spermholder breeder herself.
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Butch-Reidentified is not a lesbian.
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Sage for super OT, but one of the weirdest things I have found with radfems is their idealization of "womyn's land" and a collective narrative that "men and troons forced those communities to shut down". They didn't. Those communes shut down because they all gave up. Living in the woods is a nice fantasy, but it required actual work that people just weren't willing to put in. and whey do they bring up successful still functioning examples of women-only communities, and again, it's like they never did any actual research. There are women's only communities that have worked and currently prospering but they don't work the way most radfems imagine, Umoja village in Kenya, the Kihnu community in Estonia and Jinwar in Rojova(syria)
let's start with the oldest the Kihnu, you'll often see that claim the Kihnu are a matriarchal society(that's simply not true) cultures like the Kihnu have existed in small corners around the world, where due to harsh condition men do all the physical labor and women handle the administration, there are certain historical examples in various Nordic countries where all the able bodied men would spend months days or weeks hunting or fishing as a matter of survival for the community so the women were left to run things, Its not a perfect system but its better then what most women have historically have had to deal with
Umoja is recent example and it should serve as an example of exactly what to do if you want to establish a successful commune, they have a reliable method of income for the community(selling garments and textiles) they have relations with Kenyan government for protection if any rebel group tries to attack them, they build schools and hospitals with the income they have, they allow women with male children to be in their communities and thus they have a sustainable population growth.
Jinwar was only established only in the past few years, it was created by the YPG for women and children, many of whom lost their husband's during the civil war, just like Umoja it operates on self substantiality, it has actual facilities to provide education and healthcare for the women and children.(off-topic)
No. 1873393
>>1872902Okay incel
>>1869640 . They really do remain the same regardless of transition kek.
No. 1873403
>>1873401Yes kek. Nice not being able to deflect the point. People are just posting anyone who’s GC and calling them a
terf even if they aren’t, like Posie Parker who herself says she’s not a rf. When this is pointed out anon seethes “but she’s GC! You can’t say she’s not rf, she’s a
terf!”. You also say that as if saying rfs are trad is not strawmaning them. The projection is obvious.
No. 1873584
>>1873403Kellie-Jay Keen and her supporters don’t care about women, they just hate troons. Even the ones who call themselves “terfs” and “feminists” (e.g. Angie Jones, Sall Grover et al) are nothing but right wing grifters who want to enforce gender norms. They think women’s rights activism comprises nothing but screaming “YOU’RE A GROOMER!” at people. They praise Matt Walsh, happily rub shoulders with white nationalists/supremacists like Sebastian Gorka and spout racist, lesbophobic, tradwife, misogynistic bullshit 24/7. They’re garbage people and I hate that they’re associated with feminism because people don’t know what words mean
>>1872902This is why separatism is the only option
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>>1873544Probably because living in bumfuck nowhere is not actually an appealing alternative to someone who doesn't live in the third world. Agreed on all women housing.
>>1873596Heard through the grapevine that blog is following a bunch of accounts that don't even get into drama. She's pretending she doesn't know what lolcow is but it's very clear she's lurking here imo.
No. 1873674
>>1873159Thank you for articulating all of this so well! This is what I've been trying to say, but way better.
>>1873321>maybe being an antisocial troll doesn't actually make you very smart or perceptive? hmmmmmmYou're talking about social media users, their idea of truth and beauty is ratioing people with immature dunks and posting literal nonsense.
No. 1873698
>>1873591NTA but KJK is the face of the GC and by extension RF movement, whether you like it or not. She doesn't need to be a feminist herself. Even the normies I talk to know about her and her rallies where she cozies up to neo-Nazis, and they(rightly, unfortunately) associate GC and RF ideology with the far right. Should've gatekept more, should've simped for conservatives less–even when they "at least know what a woman is". GC and RF are both
toxic assets and normal women, no matter how skeptical they are of the trans movement, will not want to associate with them.
No. 1873814
>>1873544I've been to a handful of them and it's pretty bleak. The description "6 old women" is true as hell. And anyone younger than 60 has a chance to be a munchie. The last one I lived in, there was a girl who said she had allergies to chemicals (all, apparently) and she lived in an $8k geodesic tent from REI that was made out of nylon. WTF does she think nylon is??? And when we first met, she pointed at my watch and asked if it was a smart watch, bc she was allergic to the signals.
But then she'd come down to the only house that had wifi to watch She-Ra on netflix.
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sage for OT and blog-posting, But I actually knew a woman named
Lisa Michele, she was a radfem (but socialist leaning) and kind of soft-spoken in real life. Well, she ended up being groomed by a neo-Nazi and went down to that path, and I don't know what happened to her. Now, I'm not saying that Lisa is going to end up the same way, but I wouldn't doubt that she could end up head down a reactionary path.(the fact she admits to browsing r/stupidpol felt really alarming to me)
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>>1873544>>1873814In the 60s, a radfem author discussed an issue related to this that ended up applying to the majority of hippie communities as well as sections of academia. The author, Jo Freeman, wrote The Tyranny of Structurelessness, argues that in most "Structureless" groups or communes, informal power structures tend to emerge and can be difficult to challenge or change in groups that have no formal structure or hierarchy, said groups were more prone to cliques, factions, and personal infighting
A section from the essay
>Contrary to what we would like to believe, there is no such thing as a structureless group. Any group of people of whatever nature that comes together for any length of time for any purpose will inevitably structure itself in some fashion. The structure may be flexible; it may vary over time; it may evenly or unevenly distribute tasks, power and resources over the members of the group. But it will be formed regardless of the abilities, personalities, or intentions of the people involved. The very fact that we are individuals, with different talents, predispositions, and backgrounds makes this inevitable. Only if we refused to relate or interact on any basis whatsoever could we approximate structurelessness – and that is not the nature of a human group.>This means that to strive for a structureless group is as useful, and as deceptive, as to aim at an "objective" news story, "value-free" social science, or a "free" economy. A "laissez faire" group is about as realistic as a "laissez faire" society; the idea becomes a smokescreen for the strong or the lucky to establish unquestioned hegemony over others. This hegemony can be so easily established because the idea of "structurelessness" does not prevent the formation of informal structures, only formal ones. Similarly "laissez faire" philosophy did not prevent the economically powerful from establishing control over wages, prices, and distribution of goods; it only prevented the government from doing so. Thus structurelessness becomes a way of masking power, and within the women's movement is usually most strongly advocated by those who are the most powerful (whether they are conscious of their power or not). As long as the structure of the group is informal, the rules of how decisions are made are known only to a few and awareness of power is limited to those who know the rules. Those who do not know the rules and are not chosen for initiation must remain in confusion, or suffer from paranoid delusions that something is happening of which they are not quite aware.>For everyone to have the opportunity to be involved in a given group and to participate in its activities the structure must be explicit, not implicit. The rules of decision-making must be open and available to everyone, and this can happen only if they are formalized. This is not to say that formalization of a structure of a group will destroy the informal structure. It usually doesn't. But it does hinder the informal structure from having predominant control and make available some means of attacking it if the people involved are not at least responsible to the needs of the group at large. "Structurelessness" is organizationally impossible. We cannot decide whether to have a structured or structureless group, only whether or not to have a formally structured one. Therefore the word will not be used any longer except to refer to the idea it represents. Unstructured will refer to those groups which have not been deliberately structured in a particular manner. Structured will refer to those which have. A Structured group always has formal structure, and may also have an informal, or covert, structure. It is this informal structure, particularly in Unstructured groups, which forms the basis for elites.And this still very much applies to most modern day radfems.
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>>1874202Has she ever referred to that as grooming? I know she describes it as
abusive but from what I understand she herself does not consider what happened grooming.
No. 1874283
>>1873698If you're terminally online, sure, you're going to get a ton of exposure to PP and KJK. You could argue that they're poisoning the well. Most women don't spend hours on twitter, though.
JK Rowling is a far more prominent, mainstream GC figure. And she's not hyping up these right wing women at all.
You also have sympathetic gay men speaking out in defense of GC talking points. "Gay man reacting to TRA bullshit" is an emerging trend on YoutTube, there's mrmenmo and ShapeShifter, etc. They're not promoting right wing bullshit and are sticking up for women instead of griping about how some republicans agree with them on a very surface level. Maybe you should try it some time!
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how does she claim to be a radfem when she is quite literally pro marriage? marriage is historically (and still) used to slave away women to moids.
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>>1874302>anti love anti human agendatrad rhetoric kek
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>>1874302 samefag but it gets way worse, now she wants to breed with her pedo husband. she’s gone full trad how pathetic
this is not surprising surprising coming from miss “lesbians don’t exist” kek
No. 1875245
>>1873892You're citing one person who need some observations like 50 years ago? that doesn't make steep hierarchy a good thing or you an expert on radical feminists who you probably have a grudge against.
the issue with mixed sex communes or whatever is that men will inevitably dominate the discussions and occupy positions of power.
there's a ton of anecdotal evidence on how if you include men in women's support groups (such as those relating to
victims of sexual violence) you'll discover that males will dominate the conversation and will speak over women, essentially making solidarity much more difficult to build.
there will always be people who want to dominate a group or a discussion or whatever but way of organization that place emphasis on those with the appropriate expertise and knowledge valuable to a group could be a less
toxic alternative to hierarchies involving dominant-submissive relationships that you find under male dominance in general. but you also have to take into account who chooses what ideas need to take precedence over others in a group. If there's the significant difference in opinion between you and those who manage to achieve power there's going to be conflict. That's where the trouble lies and this is what makes online spaces for feminists unsatisfactory to me. It's always other people and not necessarily the smarter people who get to decide what opinions have merit and they're not the always the kinds of opinions that I like. plus, people form cliques regardless. That's not an alternative to hierarchies That's just how social animals work. you learn that in hs sociology.
>Even scholars who might disagree on the merits of hierarchy agree that steeper hierarchies tend to lower cooperation and increase competition among group members. In any hierarchy, higher rank comes not just with material rewards, but with a host of social and psychological benefits, such as increased prestige (Berger et al., 1980), more credit for group successes (Fan & Gruenfeld, 1998; Meindl et al., 1985), and better overall well-being (Adler,Epel, Castellazzo, & Ickovics, 2000). In contrast, low rank comes with social neglect (Chance, 1967; Savin-Williams,
1979), less participation and yet more blame for group failures (Weisband, Schneider, & Connolly, 1995), and heightened feelings of fear, shame, and anxiety (Mazur, 1973; Tiedens, 2000).
>Therefore, steeper hierarchies promote more competition by raising the stakes for competition over rank.
>https://web.archive.org/web/20190208065113/https://www.haas.berkeley.edu/faculty/papers/anderson/functions%20and%20dysfunctions%20of%20hierarchy.pdfif you are looking for ways to justify to yourself that being around moids and moid enablers is great and you're totally free to do that. The moment that you try to assume what feminist groups are liking what they do when you have literally no experience being in such a group or living among such people is where like I draw the line. none one cares how you justify your handmaidenry.
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>>1831377I'm late to this but anon if you are still reading this don't feel bad about yourself, you are likely on the spectrum and seem to enjoy to debate and to write (I mean it in the nicest way possible). I feel bad you genuinely engaged with her and she basically mocked you though, I get spergs can be annoying but if they aren't trolling or trying to annoy you in purpose there is no reason to be a bitch, specially if you are talking to a younger woman with little social awareness who's genuinely trying her best. What a bish fr.
I think you should consider starting a blog or writing, it's definitely very therapeutic and helps a lot organizing those disordered overflowing thoughts people like us tend to have. It does help me a lot specially after I learnt to regulate my social interactions with other people and be less sperg-y.
t. A fellow sperg who used to have little social awareness and behaved somewhat similar when she was a naive teenager (and got bullied by older grown ass adult women online too, figures).
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>>1878566>>1878569Tonguehurt the Somali couldn't take the heat after all, huh? what a riot.
No. 1879765
>>1879762did she die or something?
>>1878569this blog is already deleted and good fucking riddance, i had never heard of it until it was posted here
which does make me suspect it was a selfpost to be honest and it was a cesspool, full of anons saying that child human trafficking
victims were whores and that domestic violence shelters were a waste of resources.
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the self posting is real lmao
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>>1880163and she's a pro-forced birth retard too
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I don't know if she's ever really been a rad fem, but Birdy Rose is in a lot of their spaces because she is gender critical at least. Anyway, something that's been a lot time coming, she's now going mask off "feminism bad". I guess we'll see either the trad thot or the "I'm such a free thinker, I don't need labels" arc for the rightoid betabux next.
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Tonguehurt attempted to rejoin Menalez's server. this after Tonguehurt posted some exposé on Menalez on her Tumblr and later wound up deleting her account on there.
I'm not sure why Tonguehurt thought Menalez & Co. would welcome her back and/or not recognize her since it is my understanding they already know what she looks like from a selfie. I'm curious what Tonguehurt looks like though I already know she's black and 5'0"/1.5 meters.
No. 1882653
>>1882638Stop posting about tonguehurt. She's not a radfem and she's not interesting.
This is the worst thread on this site lmao
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This is wh0remaxxer/gobleeena with her fiancé
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>This is the essence of radtwt in one single exchange.
No. 1883090
>>1882975Men don't care about women who don't care about them but fuck them anyways. They just call that a slut or a thot, and use women like that as a cheap talking point for why we "can't be trusted" with autonomy. They might narc rage a little, but it's because their ego was bruised, not because they care about you at all.
Also, "potentially hurting men's feelings" and "sex with a man (notoriously diseased and inept lovers)" aren't worthwhile rewards for the risks provided by having sex with even one man, let alone several. It increases your rate of STDs, UTIs, infection, tissue tearing, IPV, sexual assault, rape, stalking, and unwanted pregnancy drastically.
Do you people have broken clits or something? Why would you ever be reliant on men for orgasms? It's embarrassing.
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>least delusional radfem
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Meghan Murphy has gone full trad
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sage for no real milk, So Julie Bindel and Kathleen Stock recently founded this organisation, called the Lesbian Project, which is for lesbian rights and visibility, which is well and good but its odd pairing, Kathleen Stock is a very standard liberal (who is fine with true trans being allowed in women's bathrooms,) and she is also very into motherhood aspects in her feminism as she has two sons and Julie Bindle is Julie Bindle, she's childfree, anti-troon and anti-men to the core, quite a strange partnership.
https://www.thelesbianproject.co.uk/people No. 1885356
>>1885268>sites one fucking video that has a non-security camera feed Please tell me you're joking
Do you not realize some careers that include weapons training also include training on continuing to use said weapon after being pepper sprayed? Sure the average person can't do shit, but to say it's better than a gun? Brain dead take
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>Radical feminism is when spouting unironic eugenic rhetoric
No. 1886218
>>1886207She's right kek
How is men controlling who women should partner with = OK but women doing it = eugenic rhetoric? Use your brain for a second anon.
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This is honestly very depressing to see from Lilith, cause she's never been either slightly conservative or a tankie, she's always been a proud lesbian feminist who wasn't too focused on the troon issue, but for her to admit this is just so disappointing.
No. 1888540
>>1888137I get shit for saying the
TERF-to-tradthot pipeline remains undefeated, and yet…
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Old milk I guess because it happened last year, but there was this radfem on twitter called Ani O'Brien who was popular. She was all about being a lesbian and calling out TRA lesbophobia. However, her goodreads account showed that she was very fond of reading m/f smut stories with shirtless male models on the covers, often but not always with mafia, gang, and harem themes. She was reading an absurd amount of these books, at least one a day or sometimes even two or three in a day, just a barrage of heterosexual erotica. I only remember seeing her rate maybe two or three lesbian erotic stories, and one of them was about a woman having an affair with her husband's sister. So her twitter would have posts about being a lesbian and being against the cotton ceiling while her public goodreads account with her name and picture had book after book of incestuous bdsm het porn. She was leaving reviews on some of the books too, I remember her complaining about how one book she read had gender identities and how ridiculous that is in a mafia setting or something. So it wasn't even like she had her kindle linked to her goodreads account and she didn't realise it was posting every book she read, for some reason she decided to post about reading all this smut using the same name and pic as her radfem account.
Anyway, she ended up changing her goodreads name to Victoria Lyon and coming out as bi on goodreads. And she seems to have since changed her goodreads name to Victoria Arrow. She also has apparently written her own lesbian mafia story, it looks extremely cheesy though. Not sure if she's still leslarping on twitter, I don't use it much these days.
No. 1888665
>>1888137>>1888540>She believed that men should be the protectors don't 100% agree with that
>that only women should be allowed near childrentrue
>trying to erase gender is a stupid and pointless concept due to the massive biological differences between men and women.true
>argued that feminism focuses too much on middle-class Western women true
>she believed that feminists' opinion of patriarchy is ahistorical and a boogeyman they make up (to her credit, she acknowledged its existence but disagreed with radical feminists perspective on it).true
so 4/5 correct takes.
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>>1888137I belive anything that is related to 'radical politics', whether it's the right or the left will inherently attract individuals who are a bit 'unhinged' and are desperate for some sort of group to belong too. Cause most people don't care about wider politics as long as their basic needs are being met. A good example of this desire for identity and a minor personal cow of mine is Miriam Ben-Shalom. She's literally Walter from the Big Lebowski, was from a German American Catholic family, married a Jewish man, converted to Judaism and then made being Jewish almost her entire personality. She even abandoned her husband and daughter to go to Israel and join the military, where she served in the Israeli Army as a driver during the War of Attrition. When she returned to the United States, she got a divorce from her husband (for obvious reasons) and went to university and It was there that she 'discovered' she was a lesbian. She then joined the US army and spent her career for camping for gays in the Us military and Zionism
No. 1890040
>>1889992>Cause most people don't care about wider politics as long as their basic needs are being met.this is literal anti-feminist logic which is always existed even before women had any of the hard won rights they do now, except before the flavor skewed towards: "feminists are troublemakers looks to rock the boat while I struggle to keep myself motivated as as I'm doing 90% of chores, all the cooking, cleaning and childcare in lieu of paid work! my moid mistreats me because I literally cannot leave him without becoming destitute. unfortunately there aren't any workable alternatives to my unedified self than this"
"feminists aims are a pipe dream, having coerced or for sex in marriage is inevitable and something you need to learn to cope with as women always have instead of shamefully bringing thus subject to the courts. that impropriety is worse than quietly enduring rape in mistreatment all your life."
"young women in showbiz are routinely assaulted, abused and worse and have no recourse but that's what you get for wanting to be in showbiz instead of being a household slave like so many others! Men are almost never punished for these incidents but they are incredibly shameful for women to be exposed as
victims of. women are essentially wh**s and sluts for being
victims of male predation & abuse."
anti-feminists have no freaking idea what activists are actually doing or have done. without feminist activism you would lack a lot of rights you take for granted right now. It's cool that you don't give a fucking shit about your rights or making your life better or having legal protections, but If more people did give a fuck about the law and what women deal with this world wouldn't be such as big of a hellscape.
No. 1890046
>>1888760>>1888736>>1888137I know the people on here are trolls and drama addicts but
Stock is an individual person and not representative of an entire group as I'm sure you all know.
If she entertains regressive ideas that's not really something that leftist lesbians are radical feminists have anything to do with. There's a lot of conservatives GC types in the UK. and I feel like a lot of you have a tendency to twist and misinterpret/misremember what people say because this is a shitty site and not like some reputable publication that is asking you to fact check what you're saying so there's nothing here that is trustworthy, anyway.
Stock has contributed a lot of good writing to the whole stupid trans debate. anything outside of that is irrelevant to me.
No. 1890055
Holy shit. I haven't been in this thread for months and it has devolved in handmaidens and troons shitting on women. We have the traditional posie is a nazi, lesbians are awful and disgusting perverted incel troons are better than certain women…
>>1890046Bless you
nonnie for still wanting to spout facts in this heap of autism
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menalez is such a retard i would not be surprised in the slightest if she is the one posting all of these screencaps that suspiciously come from her blog and are suspiciously about people she has vendettas against (bihet meanie, macroclit, etc).
also, screencap of her defending prostitution recently
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>>1890040>>1890054I posted this already in another thread but it fits here as well, I really hate to admit that I agree with picrel, it's half-right. For the majority of women, spiritualism (any and all of it) is basically the pipeline for trad-shit. Like radical feminism, came from Marxism, it is a scientific analysis which sets it apart and allows it to exist. Spiritual woo-woo, on the other hand, is focused on base emotions and an imagined utopia. I swear I have seen this in real-time. Spiritualism leads to goddess worship, which leads to Mary worship, which goes to Christianity.
No. 1890558
>>1889992>I belive anything that is related to 'radical politics', whether it's the right or the left will inherently attract individuals who are a bit 'unhinged' and are desperate for some sort of group to belong too.you're right, people who get into radical politics are usually attracted to extremism in general and not actual significance/theory behind whatever they are currently into. you get people who quickly go from being really into radical feminism to really into extreme trad christian right wing shit because the politics ultimately mean very little to them and they have no consistent core beliefs. they probably like thinking they're edgy and esoteric as well.
also your personal cow sounds hilarious kek
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>>1890558>>1889992Here's my take, as someone who has a history with these 'radicals' when I was in university, there are two broad groups of these types. One group consists of mostly upper middle class, left-leaning college kids with unrealistic ideals of attempting to overthrow the government, but accomplishing little more than being a nuisance at their most effective. The other group are what are termed 'political thugs'- glorified gangsters who just add an ideology to their looting and assaults.
I believe the culmination of the former was the weather underground, their ranks included anarchists, ideological third-worldists and women who were often (although not always) connected to the women's liberation scene. Almost all of them came from wealthy backgrounds and unsurprisingly, very few of them faced imprisonment or harm from the government. Their "great revoloution" against the United States spanned a decade of bombings. Law enforcement mockingly referred to them as the "toilet cloggers" due to their tactics to blow up bathrooms in government buildings. and their most devastating bombing occurred when they accidentally obliterated one of their own safe houses. Some members lived in hiding for years before eventually surrendering, only to be shocked by the lenient punishment they received. Law enforcement simply didn't consider them worthy of prosecution. almost all are still alive and remain wealthy to this day.
There was also a rather funny moment when Robin Morgan actually reconsidered most of her views when she met one of her old friends who was part of the weather underground, and where they called her infant song a "white pig" because they were convinced that white babies are a symbol of global white supremacy, they also ate all her food and stole some of her money and left without saying anything and she realized this was just lameand they were really harming themselves and feminism should never try to be like this.
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sage for OT, but I absolutely adore Julie Bindel, tons of her 'articles' is just stuff that annoys her a little.
No. 1891121
>>1891017There are extremes to two sides, even in the hard facts and logic camp. Like, Radical feminism is derived from Marxist theory, with the fundamental aspect of viewing women as the oppressed class and men as the oppressor class, and the need for revolution. Marxist socialism, whether one likes it or not, has its highly modern inner logic. The problem is that it gets stuck up in its ass and leads to endless 'intellectual' debates over theory to the point of redundancy and overanalyzing everything. So It doesn't have mass appeal to anyone, so for common people, a form of national and spiritual socialism takes over (that's what happened with the Soviet Union and much of the eastern block). That doesn't rely on facts and logic, just emotions, and you get weird conclusions of ancient Mongolia being an ideal communist state and how it's Russia's responsibility to turn the entire world into Mongolia. The same happened with feminism; it got too theory-obsessed and so those who believed in ancient magic and rituals started gaining ground(Z Budapest and Ruth Barrett are two classic examples and Adelaide Meadow and Serendipity Day are two more recent nutcases), cause it gave women something grander to believe in. and spiritualists can easily fall into trad trap, cause the divine mother goddesses lives on as Mary, so you can go to Church with your boyfriend and not feel bad about it.
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>>1891128I don't think I'm necessarily making any groundbreaking statements. It's just that hindsight is 20/20, along with the principle of Occam's razor. Political groups that have the broadest appeal and are the most stable and conscientious usually end up with the ability to bring about the most change. That said even feminists in that era such as Jo Freeman and Phyllis Schlafly pointed this out and It wasn't as bad as with communist groups, but feminist groups had a habit of splitting apart due to ideological and personal differences. Take, for example, the National Organization for Women, which had nearly 3 million members at its peak (a potentially incredibly powerful voting bloc), yet they constantly splintered into separate groups.
>The Women's Equity Action League (WEAL) - was created in response to concerns that NOW was not adequately addressing issues of racial and economic inequality within the feminist movement. >The Feminist Majority Foundation (FMF) - was created by Eleanor Smeal in 1987, who had previously served as the president of NOW. It founded as a result of Smeal's growing unpopularity with in the NWO cause of how frequently she would take the presidency, so she created an organisation which essentially had the same goals and Ideas as the NWO just with her in-charge. >Radical Women - splintered in 1967, It was a socialist feminist organization that separated from NOW.(and it would have a majors split off between its socialist and radical feminist factions).>The National Women's Political Caucus (NWPC) - founded in 1971 as a bipartisan organization to recruit, train, and support women for elected and appointed office positions. Its goal was to have feminists work closer with the democratic and republican parties.And there were tons of other groups who had their own splintering. Again, this wasn't unique to feminists, it was just something that plagued the new left since the end of WW2. For example, in Rita Mae Brown's(who was a bit of a cow herself, basically a polilez who didn't believe homosexuality existed and admitted to sleeping with her male cousin cause she was horny) autobiography, she talked about the downfall of the Furies collective (a radical lesbian feminist collective) because two of the members had a break-up and didn't want to see each other again. As a result, one side of the party supported one while the others supported the other, and the whole movement fell apart.
No. 1891249
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What I want to know is why so many left leaning radicalfeminists seem to be utterly blind to communist/Russian/Chinese propaganda. For instance, Kajsa Ekman wrote an excellent book regarding the state of prostitution and how it functions in Europe, but at the same time, she retweets and posts literal Russian propaganda and thinks Putin is justified in invading Ukraine. How does this even work mentally? How can you brilliantly see misogyny one way but can be utterly blind in other ways.
No. 1891269
>>1891249I've wondered the same thing for years. My personal guess when it comes to varieties of leftists and radical feminists being so gullible to tankie (retarded term but for lack of a better word regarding Russia/China/DPRK ideologies) propaganda is mostly by wanting to be anti-US/NATO and anti-imperialism so bad they go full circle and find a new, different imperialism that's good because it's not the US. It can call itself communist despite having none of the actual characteristics legitimate socialism or communism would have, as long as it puts on the red paint and says death to America, it's good to them by way of being contrarian. It's no use trying to make them listen to women who have actually grown up in these countries (whether 20 or 60 years ago). Even if they make women and gay people face the wall or just throw them from buildings, even if ethnic minorities get genocided and personal freedoms made nonexistent, that's just collateral damage next to the righteous cause of being anti-US at all costs.
I get the need to be radical, but it often leads to seeing the world in terms of dichotomy, good and evil, and this need to be contrarian no matter what, as if sides that oppose can't both be shit.
No. 1891294
>>1891269I think it's closer to what
>>1890558 mentioned. People who believe in absolutes are more likely to fall into these absurd conclusions just because it's against the current status quo. most people don't know that many of the Nazi party members were former communists and socialists, who hated the liberal capitalist status-quo, modern tankies have the same mentality.
No. 1891373
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so this is what ovarit updoots these days. it's like the only women left there at this point would have been part of some far-right christian soccer mommy "family values" anti-gay group in the early 2000s.
it seems like every reddit offshoot quickly descends into a circlejerk of the most psychotically anti-social members of that community. it also happened to that weird chapo traphouse offshoot site that was exclusively populated by unhinged trannies.
No. 1891385
>>1891373It doesn't contradict feminism directly, but it's hypocritical when "feminists" have any kind of right wing views (yes, this includes hating homeless people. And what about homeless women?)
How are you going to say, as a feminist, women are vulnerable and should be protected etc. but shit on
other people who are vulnerable?
No. 1891388
>>1891376do you really think they don't privately think the same about poor and homeless women? that post could have been written by any insufferable bay area rapist eugenicist tech moid. it shows a complete disinterest in any notion of emancipatory politics, including feminism.
it's also just flat out wrong right wing propaganda. there's a gazillion pilot projects in nordic countries and elsewhere that have proven that providing people with (adequate) housing is an effective way to solve homelessness. turns out even mentally druggies don't enjoy sleeping on concrete. apart from that, pretending that the skyrocketing homelessness rate in many major US cities has nothing to do with the housing crisis is pants on head retarded.
do I enjoy being barraged by homeless weirdos? of course not. but everyone with a basic concept of structural politics can see that the homeless crisis exists because it's convenient to the powers that be and not because homeless people are inherently evil.
No. 1892114
>>1891249That's because modern radfems are alt-righters and traditionalists and alt-righters currently support Russia which is why there are radfems who currently support Russia too (despite the cruel depraved rape which the Russian soldiers were reported to be doing to Ukrainian children and families).
It's no coincidence that lately so many alt-right beliefs are starting to overlap with radfems.
Some women join the radfem community with good intentions and then they slowly get indoctrinated into tradthot thinking without even knowing it.
Remember this quote:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
No. 1892565
>>1892546nta and as a fellow "
poc" I don't think its right, this isn't identity politics or structure or whatever bs, race is a spectrum, its absurd to hate or like anyone based on their race, sex is real and it defines almost everything. both aren't the same thing.
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So what's the deal with WOLF(Women's Liberation Front)?
They came to light during Julia Beck's interview with Carlson(who also seems to have disappeared from the public after her interview on FOX and her speech with the hertiage Foundation, very convenient). Now, I assumed they were one group willing to work with conservatives on the trans issue and that's it. However, going through their site, 99% of their posts focus on are related to stuff Republicans support. I noticed this weird almost political angle of campaigning against Democratic politicians and also framing Republican laws as 'wins for women'. It's a little weird right.
https://womensliberationfront.org/ No. 1893123
>>1892565>aren't the same thingRace has a real component to it too though. "race as a spectrum" only existed in recent times because humans allowed it to and it became acceptable to have kids with other "races" (miscegenation). Race is a made up concept but hair texture and skin color are not. Someone can not hide their race just as someone cannot hide their sexuality without pain and torture. The current system is binary in terms of sexuality which surprise surprise mostly only harms homosexuals "White passing" is as real as "straight passing".
>>1891197>basically a polilez who didn't believe homosexuality existedThat quote outright says both homosexuality and heterosexuality exist but are extremes on the curve of the human population that are less common than bisexuality. Ignoring the part where heterosexuality is included is also convenient agenda setting.
No. 1893266
>>1893073Collaborating and appealing to trads who think women exist to be breeder fuckbots: a classic feminist move! kek
TERF-to-tradthot pipeline remains undefeated. I'll be shocked if all high profile """gender criticals""" aren't married+permapregnant stay at home mawwwmieez in a few years. Most are anyway.
No. 1893559
>>1893321I've only seen bits and pieces of what she's been up to, but yeah she's married to a military guy. I think he was also married to someone else when they met, and might have a kid from that marriage too? What a mess. I sincerely hope she beats the odds and doesn't end up as some kind of abuse
victim. Military/police moids are considered a no-go for a reason.
No. 1893653
if you scroll back far enough through lesbiansdatingmen on tumblr you should be able to find receipts. but yes, opisaterf/terfectly is married to a military man (despite claiming to be super duper leftist and against the military) who used to be with her best friend.
she was out as a lesbian, then one day she started posting about how she hooked up with her best friend's partner. she avoided using pronouns, so at first people thought she meant her friend's wife. but eventually she came clean and admitted it was her friend's husband, but she was still totalllllly a kinsey 5.9 (kek, I seriously doubt she's even been with a woman considering she used to flip flop between saying she'd fucked women and saying she'd only kissed them).
her and the guy broke up and she broadcast the details all over tumblr for some reason, but they got back together and now they're married with a baby.
also I can't post a pic unfortunately because she's made her instagram private unfortunately, but the moid she dropped the lesbian act for is ugly af. lanky, scrawny, no chin, literally like the virgin from the chad vs virgin meme irl except with light hair and no glasses. it's never a good looking man that makes them reconsider the lesbian larp. for some reason it's always the most hideous creature you've ever seen.
No. 1893938
>>1893653The problems have only continued to pile up since then, too. Being a military wife has taken a toll on her already limited mental capabilities. I can't remember the exacts, but I believe the list of things she's done relating to that include:
>Bragged about how well-off she is as a result of her husband's involvement in the military>Implied that radblr users who are critical of the US military (and therefore critical of her and her beloved Cody) are just jealous of how well-off she is>Said that being anti-war and anti-military was stupid because "the military has always existed and will always exist, and that's a good thing because people need protection">Claimed the US military hasn't done anything particularly bad aside from "acting like other countries' dad">Made various offensive jokes about Japan (where her husband had primarily been deployed), including jokes about the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and NagasakiThere's probably more, but I never followed her or anyone who followed her, and I'm no longer on radblr, so I only have bits and pieces of information shared with me by friends who are still radblr users and have a greater capacity for being a true hater than I do. Less important than the insane polilez to bisexual military tradwife stuff are things like how often she posts about her baby's poop, and her participation in the collective bihet nuclear meltdowns any time conversations about separatism or lesbophobia by radblr users come up. I'm not really sure why she hasn't been completely torn apart and run off radblr a la macroclit, but I assume it might have to do with how often her account gets termed and remade. There are a few really annoying and shitty users on radblr who seemingly coast by with clean slates simply by deleting and remaking their accounts, so I wouldn't be surprised if repeated remaking were the only thing keeping her from being condemned. It's ironic, though, since I've seen speculation that she's only getting termed more often than other radblr users because someone else in the community has such a vendetta against her that she mass-reports her every time she makes a new account. That would mean that it's possible that the only thing keeping her from being called out and run off of radblr are the vendetta-fueled actions of someone who probably wants her to be called out and run off of radblr more than anybody else.
No. 1894211
>>1893938>>1893653Wow, that's crazy. I always thought she was extremely cringeworthy with her military nigelposting, but knowing she used to pretend to be a lesbian and FUCKED HER BEST FRIEND'S ugly military moid is making me scream. Why does half of radblr suck her toes 24/7? Perhaps they identify with her cognitive dissonance of claiming to hate men while procreating with and gushing about one that participates in the foremost mechanism of male violence?
>>1893435Tori seemed legitimately confused, traumatized, and sort of low-IQ (in the kindest way possible) so I can't bring myself to hate her. But militaryspawnmama or whatever… I could a-log her if i was a woman of weaker will.
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what is she even trying to say here?
No. 1894505
>>1894363It's because they aren't actually radfems, they're just women with not much in terms of personality who try to compensate for that fact by LARPing who have gotten comfortable with the "tumblr radfem" brand they made for themselves when they were labeled as "TERFs" while they were LUGs with "transphobic" opinions.
Btw, if anyone's curious how blatant the LARP is: Terfectly used to talk about how she found pregnant and breastfeeding mothers to be so disgusting that the sight of them made her feel like puking, and now she's a glorified mommyblogger who posts about how having a baby is "a beautiful, life-changing experience that gave her more insight," that people who don't have kids "don't know anything about the world," and about how stinky her "beautiful" baby's shit is. IIRC bihet-meanie is another "mean lesbian to proudly fucking a military Nigel" type, and she literally said "I played up the mean lesbian character" after she "discovered" she was OSA "for the first time" by falling back in love with a guy she dated before she went through her LUG era.
>>1894483Honestly I think she's just saying shit, and maybe trying to be a contrarian. If there was a point here, it either failed to land, or is simply too stupid for us to comprehend.
No. 1894728
>>1894618>lots of lesbian feminists were formerly with menAren't Sheila Jeffreys and Angela Wild political lesbians, tho? That is, not homosexual at all. I've seen Angela Wild saying herself on Twitter that "born this way" is not true for everyone, and that she "chose to be a lesbian". Not just extremely homophobic but also very cult-like, as if she were trying to convert het/bi women to lesbianism.
I'm a homosexual woman and there's nothing political about it, no matter how much a woman hates men. Or you're exclusively same-sex attracted or you're not a lesbian.
Lesbophobic types like Angela Wild are the main reason I left most radfem spaces, sigh.
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another mean lesbian to bihet who's still popular on radblr is ignis-divine-eleison. she swore she was a gold star lesbian for years (if you looked far enough back in her archive she'd posted about how the only reason she didn't have sex with her boyfriend in school despite being a "nymphomaniac" and asking him to have sex with her was that he said no).
she went on hiatus for a while. then when she came back, she made a post which she began by begging people not to send her death threats and then said she was bisexual. she said that she had crushes on 3 different guys at once and that she'd had a boyfriend for a few months. by the end of the week she was asking her followers for opinions on whether she should peg her boyfriend or not.
someone sent her an anon wondering if she had a strong preference for men now, and she responded by saying no, and that she'd had one boyfriend (untrue) and 13 gfs. she had just turned 22, so if true she would have been going through girlfriends rapidly. as if it's a flex and not a further sign of mental instability to have had so many failed relationships at such a young age.
a blog called stupendousrunawayking popped up and seemed to know some things about the school ignis went to and claimed that she was known to have dated boys in school, contrary to her claim that she'd always thought she was 100% gay and was an out lesbian in school. the blog posted a group pic allegedly from their school days with someone that looked very like ignis as proof she knew ignis irl. it was grainy and low quality, plus the person who might have been ignis had her eyes closed and part of her face wasn't visible because someone standing in front of her was blocking it. so it could have just been someone who looks like her. I doubt anyone is so obsessed with proving ignis dated boys in school that they'd bother searching for a picture of someone who looks like her in a school setting to post on a tumblr blog where it will maybe get 10 notes though.
also some minor drama that's a little funny, ignis used to lust over fictional male characters like link from zelda when she was in menalez' (a fellow bi that swears she's gay for radblr clout, along with claiming to be part black and from a communist far leftist family when her family literally have a maid and live in a big luxurious house kek) discord server. an anon thought that this was evidence of ignis being bisexual (this was before she came out as bi) and menalez swooped to her defence and acted like it was ridiculous to think ignis was bisexual because she found fictional men attractive. just a couple of months later, ignis came out as bi, so her crushes on fictional men were a sign of her bisexuality after all.
No. 1894822
>>1894794there is a difference between me and someone dumb enough to marry a military moid, actually. not all women are as stupid and hapless as you.
this is like when tumblr rads abloobloo about tradwives getting made fun of for their awful life choices. "but they're victiiims tricked by the patriarchyyy" yeah we all are, but most of us don't campaign against our own rights for the approval of moids who think we're fuck-appliances
No. 1895189
>>1891249>>1891269My theory is that they have constructed an exaggerated and unhistorical view of patriarchy (which is already awful, so you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse, especially with easily disprovable facts) to such a degree that they that when they encounter someone who doesn't fit into their distorted perspective(such as a good understanding Christian man), their worldview is shattered, and they begin to question everything they have ever believed in, including perhaps whether feminism was wrong. This mindset can be interpreted in various ways, but due to their developed ego and the bubble they have lived in, when that bubble bursts, it allows them to manipulated.
I was reading this book called Family Values:Two Moms and Their Son, which I read because I heard it was an excellent insight regarding lesbian parenting in the 90s. In the book, the authors mention that almost all the lesbians she knew who used sperm donors, whether it was from a clinic or using a turkey baster, would end up having sons. It was rare to find a girl born in a lesbian group, and it was hard for the more separatist lesbians to accept. Many had very idealized fantasies about living in female-only communes (despite all of them being city people) and having only daughters. But when they had sons, they couldn't give them up, so they just stop going to feminist activities because they felt ashamed. and It seemed so pointless. If they lived in reality and thought critically for a moment, none of this would have happened.
>With regular conception, I will have a 50/50 chance of having either a boy or a girl, and it's scientifically proven that artificial insemination heavily favors the Y chromosome. So if I wish for a daughter, I should most likely avoid it since there are no guarantees, and I could not have a child, or I could always adopt a girl as wellbut they had an idealised fantasy that statistically had a lesser chance of happening and when it didn't happen, it seemed to destroy the identity they had created and so they "gave up" on those feminist identities.
No. 1895256
>>1895247The average "good Christian man" is a porn addict who thinks women were put on the Earth to service him. It's the premise of his religion kek
Sex can be detected as early as 10 weeks. Instead of shamefully abandoning feminism to be a boymom, just abort the little parasite.
No. 1895377
>>1895256>It's the premise of his religion keksee this is what I mean, I'm not a Christian and I think all religions should be banned by the state or under its control but I am aware that's not how Christianity works or even its premise(like I don't understand where your getting this from), to truly demystify yourself from faith you don't have to make shit up or even demonise it, just objectively view its history, even Janice Raymond(I suggest you read some of her works) talked about this
I was using Christianity as an example, the same premise works with Muslims, Nazis, Communists and anyone mild of extreme ends of the political spectrum.
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well it happened, much of radtwt turned against Kathleen Stock after a post/article she made about how women telling women to avoid situations from assault isn’t victim-blaming.
No. 1895601
>>1895472It feels like they hear "feminist suggestions on how to reduce the risk of being abused/raped" as "unwanted advice from misogynists about how the abuse/rape you already went through is your fault." Do they think self-defense classes are
victim-blaming, too?
No. 1895799
>>1895601more women need to get fucking strapped. the goal of self defense is protection of your life, because anything could happen at any time. if you're a radfem it should be like a rite of passage to get some self defense weapons and watch some self defense videos/classes when you learn about the depths of patriarchy and femicides. even better to buy self defense weapons for other women in need. it's like making a conscious choice of not putting a seat belt on when driving after hearing how often car accidents happen.
male culture basically pushes self defense weapons on them, it's more odd to see a man who doesn't have a slight interest in different types of guns and knives in some way.
No. 1895801
>>1895472This is absolutely
victim blaming. Why is a "feminist" putting the onus on women to avoid getting raped–which boils down to being in a constant state of prey-like hypervigilance and results in her curtailing her own personal freedoms–when the problem is men and boys? She's responding to a case where seven men got together and decided to gang rape some poor girl. Why is the conversation always about how women should have to modify our normal behavior, and not about how men should have to modify theirs? Half the population must live in constant fear, but we can't even suggest male curfews or anything of the like? We just have to live under the thumb of male violence forever, so sayeth a "radical feminist"?
Though I doubt this hettie bettie polilez boymom would take kindly to her spawn being told to do anything for the sake of women. Not muh suhhnz!
>>1895601The "feminist suggestion" is literally misogynist rhetoric. Every restriction put on women and girls be it limiting our education or forcing hijabs and requiring male guardians to go outside are based entirely on the premise of "protecting" us. If you read her article, Stock is coming to the defense of the spouse of Giorgia Meloni, the fascist Italian PM. I'm shocked supposed radfems are falling for trad rhetoric so easily. Well, considering how much they suck off Matt Walsh and the like, not really kek
It's sad to see radical feminism become a rightwing movement, but there's no salvaging it now.
No. 1895808
>>1895801dude you can "suggest male curfews" and say kill all men til the cows come home but how exactly is that going to change literally anything about the cultural/social/legal context we have to move through (because this is reality)? we live here and now in a world populated 50~% by moids, most of whom are actively hostile towards us on the ground level, and who primarily make up the formal systems that enable their hostility. slowly, over the course of many decades, more women are breaking into those systems, but only a fraction of those women are willing to mobilise to protect us from men as a whole. what do you actually want here? how will a thinkpiece on how scrotoids should have extremely restricted freedom because they are the perpetrators of violence and rape actually change anything? every women has fantasized about scrote curfews at some point, and they still dont and have never existed.
the most immediate thing a woman can do is raise awareness/educate younger or less experienced women about how to avoid or be prepared in places and situations where the danger men posit is higher. our reality is that we have to protect ourselves and informally protect each other from male violence, because societal structures sure wont, and good fucking luck revolutionising those in less than 50 years. its not about us HAVING to live under the thumb of male violence, its the reality that we DO, and WILL CONTINUE TO (unless some militant radfem group magically forms that culls all males in positions of power) live under that thumb.
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Saying you find neet women hot at tumblr dot com makes you a predatory rapist and if you are the neet woman who likes these posts you are an idiot moron who should accept radical feminists as your personal saviors because obviously you are a brain damaged moron child who doesn't know what's best for her! Like all other women!
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I wonder how the second-wavers of the past who are still alive today, feel knowing that picrel are the type of mentally unhinged weirdos who call themselves radfems nowadays.
No. 1896130
>>1896125Gloria Steinem wasn't some high-IQ CIA-trained spook, her work was sponsored by them along with 100 hundred groups. She was just used to disavow feminists from joining the communist because that's the one the CIA put above all else. Fascists, Islamists, and retarded pseudo-intellectuals were all supported in hopes that the Communists wouldn't gain any influence. The world we live in now is a result of those policies.
Also If you look into the history, second feminism literally failed because it was filled with random split-offs due to identity politics, see
>>1891197 No. 1896189
>>1895808>the most immediate thing a woman can do is raise awareness/educate younger or less experienced women about how to avoid or be prepared in places and situations where the danger men posit is higher. You've already conceded the ground to men that women who aren't "careful" enough and try to live full lives are in some sense complicit in their own rapes. It's a useless conversation. Should women not pursue male-dominated STEM fields so we don't get raped? Scurry home like rats as the sun goes down? Why is putting restrictions of men not even a consideration, but all women and girls must live in constant fear a given? Men didn't want to give women the vote, birth control/abortion access or the ability to have bank accounts either, but we still got these rights through constant effort. So why is there no enthusiasm for any kind of advocacy in this sense? Probably because the "welp men will rape, just live with it" radfems are creepy boymoms who balk at the thought of their suhhhnz being restricted the same way they want to restrict girls?
>>1895899Why is attempting to limit men's freedom the same way they want to limit ours never a consideration?
>>1895814"Protect ourselves" how? This is the tradtard antifeminist argument at its core–women should live crippled, isolated lives for our own protection, and any who try to break out of the private sphere should've known better. This is the exact thing religious nuts tell women and girls to do.
Learning self defense is a good thing, but the actual problem(men) is not being addresses. Most rapes are committed by someone the
victim knows and trusts, if she shoots/stabs/beats him up, she gets hauled off to jail.
No. 1896229
>>1896194oh that's have-a-hygge. formerly known as havekat. is also the same person as rad-bad-and-dangerous-to-know but she tries to stay low-key about it bc she tries to sell to troons on her art account.
and yes she is just as much of a cow as kelly is kek. iirc the incident that led to her being called out as a scammer was her getting mad about someone drawing a pair of beetles with a caption about the beauty of gay love, people telling her she was being ridiculous for freaking out over it just bc she personally finds bugs ugly, and then tried to spin op as a fascist for drawing "cockroaches" bc they were a symbol of the rwandan genocide. but her painting flowers that were used as a symbol by the nazis is totallyyyyyy different somehow.
she's also a big race faker. she claimed on the rad-bad account to be a brown middle eastern woman, but her "middle eastern" heritage is just her having one ashkenazi jewish parent. and on the havekat account she had pictures up where you can see she is as pale as milk
No. 1896299
>>1896052Guns are an option, but the sure thing to defend yourself. If you're in burgerland and access to gun purchasing is as easy as a background check, go for it, because it's that easy for any man (especially ones who haven't been caught doing degenerate shit) around you too.
But everywhere else; knives, mace, tasers. Learn types of throws, grab releases, flexibility stretches.
>>1896189>Woman defends her life>Hauled off to jailAnd I hate the government for that. I thankfully live in a place where you're better off killing the attacker/rapist/intruder because they have no legalities to sue you back for any retarded reason they could come up with.
Also
>Women should live crippled isolated livesWhat the actual fuck is your reading comprehension? I go out into the fucking woods by myself at any time of the day I want and you know what makes me feel safer about it? My self protection. The loaded gun, knife, and mace I keep in my bag that I take with me. Even without the gun, the mace and knife were great investments that take away the anxiety of being out by myself, because my life is worth it and not wasting away my life cooped up in my house. And when you purchase any of that shit, obviously learn how to use them. It literally takes like 30 minutes every month (or as short or as long as you want it) to do any kind of refresher for self defense. My life isn't sucked into self defense 24/7. This reply glows tbh.
No. 1896347
>>1896189>>1896203Do you people think that women's rights were attained by women explaining why oppression is bad to men, Steven Universe style? The Suffragettes striked from housework and committed acts of terrorism. Men still don't view us as human, we only got our rights because the obstinate disobedience of feminists of the past combined with societal needs that arose during major world conflicts (WWI and WWII) made the extent of female oppression at the time less advantageous for the ruling class than giving women some rights was. Men still don't view us as human, and our rights are constantly under threat. If you want to live in your fantasy world where all you need to do to stop the oppression and abuse of women by men is to convince the male-run governments to
actually punish men for misogynistic violence by informing them that you, a woman, don't like being raped and think that men should be punished for it, I can't stop you, but I'll kindly ask you to go be stupid somewhere else. It's not fair that we have to protect ourselves and do all the heavy lifting for our rights and safety when men are the ones responsible for the totality of our oppression and the vast majority of the abuse we face, but if we were living in a fair or logical world, we wouldn't be oppressed in the first place.
No. 1896468
>>1894618>>1894728Also Jo Brew, she's the head of Women’s Declaration International(the largest radfem organisation currently running) and is a political lesbian who still lives with her husband and their kids.(I don't know how that works personally)
these are women who dress like what they think lesbians are like but don't even have sex with other women.
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>>1896025why are you posting her in this thread and not the detrans thread?
No. 1896675
>>1896025adherence to trans ideology is correlated with authoritarian personality. it's not surprising that the same idiots who thought they had to take testosterone to wear shorts make a 180 and become infantilized bimbo breeding sows to ugly older men when they revert to being women again. she's still performing gender, just the opposite of what she was doing before.
anyway, hoping for a miscarriage!
No. 1896758
>>1896347also
>I'll kindly ask you to go be stupid somewhere elseyou don't own the thread. why not bring your infighting to /2X/ if you don't have any milk.
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Jen Izaakson thoughts on seperaitism
No. 1897190
>>1897113Women can build stuff just as well as moids can if they are educated and trained to do it. In Australia for instance they started showing girls how to change tyres and the oil in their cars and such, instead of relying on a man to do it, and all of the girls picked it up easily.
Most moids in the west will never build a house or do manual labor in their entire lives and even those who do mostly do it by machinery now to the point it requires quite little effort and even short old fat guys with heart conditions can do it, please stop crediting all moids as the mythical ‘builder’ or ‘architect race’.
Also male sexual selection practically revolves around pedophilic criteria (most men prefer women shorter than them, weaker than them, younger than them, less intelligent than them, more agreeable and dependent than them, more neotenous looking etc) no shit when moidmonkeys have been selecting women to be weak small fragile passive and helpless and using rape and kidnapping as a procreation tactic, that alters the human body and female genetics/psychology and affects their role in society.
>nooooo we need to share space with the gender that commits 97% of violent crime because…we just do okay!No.
No. 1897356
>>1897190>Also male sexual selection practically revolves around pedophilic criteria (most men prefer women shorter than them, weaker than them, younger than them, less intelligent than them, more agreeable and dependent than them, more neotenous looking etc) I understand disliking men, but this is one of the most retarded, and I mean extremely retarded, arguments from radical feminists. Height and build are influenced by both sets of parents. For instance, tall, strong men with short wives are likely to have short sons. Similarly, a tall woman is more likely to have tall sons. These factors affect both sexes. Additionally, it is worth noting that most cavemen had no understanding of inherited genetic traits, and many people today still lack this knowledge. I mean, if you want to see what happens when artificially selecting for neotenous features does to a people, look at many East Asians. For example, that is where it did happen, and the men developed neotenous features as well.
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The more I read about second-wave radical feminist, the more I'm convinced that almost all of them would have been massive lolcows if they were active today.
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and this is the author Robin Morgan, a self declared lesbian radical feminist(who still identified as a lesbian till the 2000's) doing the well known lesbian practice, of having sex with men.
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>>1902838I kind of resent this thread for making me aware of all the unsavory parts of second wave feminism.
Back on topic, have you ever read Trashing by Jo Freeman? '60s radblr and radtwt would have been wild.
https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htmWhat is "trashing," this colloquial term that expresses so much, yet explains so little? It is not disagreement; it is not conflict; it is not opposition. These are perfectly ordinary phenomena which, when engaged in mutually, honestly, and not excessively, are necessary to keep an organism or organization healthy and active. Trashing is a particularly vicious form of character assassination which amounts to psychological rape. It is manipulative, dishonest, and excessive. It is occasionally disguised by the rhetoric of honest conflict, or covered up by denying that any disapproval exists at all. But it is not done to expose disagreements or resolve differences. It is done to disparage and destroy.
The means vary. Trashing can be done privately or in a group situation; to one's face or behind one's back; through ostracism or open denunciation. The trasher may give you false reports of what (horrible things) others think of you; tell your friends false stories of what you think of them; interpret whatever you say or do in the most negative light; project unrealistic expectations on you so that when you fail to meet them, you become a "legitimate" target for anger; deny your perceptions of reality; or pretend you don't exist at all. Trashing may even be thinly veiled by the newest group techniques of criticism/self-criticism, mediation, and therapy. Whatever methods are used, trashing involves a violation of one's integrity, a declaration of one's worthlessness, and an impugning of one's motives In effect, what is attacked is not one's actions, or one's ideas, but one's self.
This attack is accomplished by making you feel that your very existence is inimical to the Movement and that nothing can change this short of ceasing to exist. These feelings are reinforced when you are isolated from your friends as they become convinced that their association with-you is similarly inimical to the Movement and to themselves. Any support of you will taint them. Eventually all your colleagues join in a chorus of condemnation which cannot be silenced, and you are reduced to a mere parody of your previous self.
No. 1903245
>>1903211i think it's disingenuous to say that the
only reason anything was accomplished in that era was due to circumstance. parts of feminism succeeded because, just as there are lolcows/maniacs/morons in every generation and in every movement, there are also based women who focus on what matters. but my point was that there are good and bad aspects of every social movement, and the fact that there are "unsavory" parts of second-wave feminism doesn't diminish the value of what it did achieve.
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>>1902843There's also this funny scene from the book (that's straight out of a comedy sketch) with her son Blake. she tried to turn him into a "male feminist prince". She also took him to interviews with feminist colleagues, where he would have to give statements about patriarchy when he was 12. Additionally, he wasn't allowed to watch TV or read comics. Also his biological father was gay and ran a magazine called "The Effeminist and he was well-known for having sex with young men and so even though he attended a super progressive school, he was still mocked and teased because of his parents. Consequently, when he was a teenager, he rejected all of that, joined the baseball team, and did not spend much time with either his mother or father. However, they reconciled when he was older, and now he sponsors her boomer radio show.
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To provide some context, there was an unfortunate fire accident in a weeding in Iraq that resulted in the loss of many lives there. The bride and groom, who happen to be Assyrian Christians, are understandably devastated by the tragedy. It has been falsely claimed on Twitter that the girl is only 18 years old and that the man is 30, leading to discussions about grooming in Middle Eastern nations. However, none of these claims are accurate. The woman is 22 years old, while the man is 25. Despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, many Radfems persist in perpetuating this false narrative. and cause of this a lot more well-adjusted individuals have come to realize that a lot radfems are just as in denial of reality as most TRA's.
No. 1909923
>>1909912Well obviously if you have a
>women can do no wrong and are always victims Mindset then you can’t be trusted to report on anything fairly because it’s simply not how life works.
No. 1910027
>>1909964Reminder that menalez was still reblogging pictures of tied up asian schoolgirls on that blog until her early 20s despite claiming to be an anti porn anti ddlg feminist by then.
Second reminder that she was never groomed into ddlg by an older man her family forced her to be with as she tries to make it sound so that her lesbianism sounds plausible. her original blog rnortal made it very clear that her boyfriend was the same age as her, she got him into ddlg instead of the other way around, and she moaned about how her parents didn't like them together and compared their relationship to Romeo and Juliet (pretty sure someone posted a link to a callout with dozens of screenshots of evidence a couple of months back). She's a bisexual who identifies as lesbian and part black despite being neither because she spends all day arguing on tumblr and the most oppressed groups are treated as the most authoritative in tumblr discourse.
No. 1910161
>>1869424No they fucking don't
they harass and neg at any women who is even slightly non-feminine, especially if she has short hair
They advocate for sterilizing kids for playing with plastic toys of the wrong colour!
Why do you gave to bounce between extremes instead of condemning retards as retards?
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Julia Beck seems to have semi-regretted her decision to go on Tucker Carlson, but I don't know what's going on with her personally. She's just whining about very mundane shit on Twitter all day, blaming it on men and then venting her revenge fantasies. It's honestly kinda pathetic
No. 1910437
>>1910172Except black women are the mainly the
victims of raping and killings done by black men. Radfems aren’t intelligent and will say the most retarded things with no shame
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This Hamas attack is also proving to be a great divider in Radtwt discussion, with the socialist-leaning ones being supportive. and In a very rare case, both the conservative GC types and actual radical feminist types both horrified and think the socialists are insane for this.
No. 1911151
>>1902914>>1873892>>1902927looking at Jo Freeman's "Trashing" and "The Tyranny of Structurelessness" I feel like she has identified two of the most formidable issues that get in the way of femininism accomplishing things.
apologies for requesting spoon-feeding but does anyone know if Jo Freeman has expressed any cow-like or homophobic ideas over the years?
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>>1910746>>1911037>>1910675obviously the situation is complex, but we can all agree takes like picrel coming from an alleged "lesbian separatist" is beyond retarded.
No. 1911246
>>1911240After the NYC Dykemarch where a bunch of women went topless to splash around in water. Rightoids predictably acted aghast that children might see female breasts(kek) and a bunch of "radfems" countered by saying breasts are for children so it's fine. Breastfeeding is something women
can do, but it's not what we're "for". The latter is exactly what I've heard fundies say, though their tortured logic somehow still makes breasts obscene despite being for children too
No. 1911280
>>1911248Humans have permanently swollen breasts as a means of attracting mates since we walk upright, other hominids only have their breasts swell when they're lactating.
What's "troon logic" about saying women aren't "for" breeding and babies? Yes, women(and technically men, but they have to take a shitload of prolactin to do so) can breastfeed. That's something most women can do after they give birth. That doesn't make breasts "for" that, it's just a function they possess. This is like saying women using birth control/abortion are denying their womanhood because out uteri are for babies. Use your head.
No. 1911393
>>1911306My point is that breasts have multiple evolutionary benefits, one of which is breastfeeding. They aren't "for" babies or "for" men to gawk at, they're just a part of a woman's body that do multiple things, one of which is breastfeeding. It's like how vaginas aren't "for" penetration by penises, it's just something they can do.
Breast size has has nothing to do with milk quality or production. Your trad fundie rhetoric is coming through again–if everything "comes down to babies", then anything that can't make babies(birth control, abortion, avoiding men/marriage) is unnatural, harmful and denying reality. This is their exact belief.
>>1911348>Women are built with the blueprint for creating lifePaternal genes are less likely to be methylated and more likely to be expressed, so on average someone is more like their father than their mother. The blueprint is the zygote itself, created by sperm and egg–pregnancy doesn't "create" anything, it's the zygote-turned-embryo-turned-fetus sucking resources out of a host. That's why women can get pregnant with embryos they aren't related to, and the pregnancy will can off without a hitch. Abdominal pregnancies have been taken to term and could theoretically happen in men, but it would just kill them most of the time so no one wants to test it out.
Women's creations = science, art, literature, philosophy
Women's creations =/= people
There's no active creation going on in pregnancy. You could be braindead and it would still happen. What makes us worthy is between our ears, not our legs, "radfem".
No. 1911402
>>1911390Reading comp of a cockroach. As we evolved to walk upright, we developed the unique sexual dimorphism of wider hips for childbirth.
>>1911393>You could be braindead and it would still happen. What makes us worthy is between our ears, not our legs, "radfem".The braindead vegetable is still a woman because of her sexual organs, not because of any set of interests or accomplishments. cope harder troon
No. 1911422
>>1911402Where did I claim a braindead woman wouldn't be a woman? Sex exists(and is genetic, so the veggie woman would still be one if she had a radical hysterectomy), but that doesn't mean our bodies are "for" anything. "For" implies intent in creation; our organs just have functions. Aside from the processes needed to keep us alive, none are obligatory.
You're shadowboxing phantom trannies. Take your meds, please.
No. 1911434
>>1911422You are intentionally misinterpreting my argument, and playing the classic troon avoidance card by saying you acknowledge sex exists but continue to label it as regressive.
My argument isn't that a woman's value and purpose is for breeding, but instead to acknowledge sexual organs and secondary sex characteristics also function FOR a reason outside of serving moids eye candy. Menstrual cycles exists every month FOR the literal intent of creation. Get a grip. I fucking hate tradfems, but I hate libby logic more.
No. 1911475
>>1911422Radfems are basically fundies with a new coat of paint lol, you're wasting your time.
>it all comes down to babiesBleak.
No. 1911642
>>1911434Nothing about my posts suggests sex is regressive. Sex is a genetic physical trait, it literally cannot be regressive anymore than other traits are. The beliefs people impose onto women because of our sex–that our bodies are "for" reproduction and any attempt to avoid or stop that is antithetical to our "purpose"–is what's regressive. Hence why I got such a bad taste in my mouth over the twitter "radfem" saying our breasts are "for" breastfeeding, rather than breastfeeding being something we're capable of doing.
…When did I say women's bodies exist for men to gawk at? I literally said the exact opposite. We aren't "for" anything, our bodies just have functions. Men have abnormally large penises by hominid standards because of female selection, but their penises aren't "for" us. They can't even make us cum most of the time.
>>1911475TERF-to-tradthot pipeline, undefeated, etc
No. 1911647
>>1911434Menstrual cycles and our entire reproductive system exists for more than just “creation”, are you literally so braindead you're gonna ignore the plethora of other factors outside of “make baby” that these parts of our bodies support and maintain. You’re objectively wrong by pinning these functions foundationally on creating life when they’re body parts that support
our life and health. You’re exactly how we end up with bikini science and surgeons thinking its fine to rip out ovaries from our bodies over minor complications because they’re totemo just there to make babies and carry no other function for our well being the same way our liver or kidneys do.
No. 1911695
>>1911674>Like acknowledging what a uterus is designed to do"Designed" by whom? Clearly not a great designer, since the uterus rejects the vast majority of embryos.
>poonersGrotesque scrote term.
>escape womanhood"Womanhood" isn't about breeding. Either you're a troon yourself or so mindmelted by RW ideology that you come across as one.
No. 1911714
>>1911695>Designed by whomBody parts have purposes and functions. Large percent of miscarriages are from the body still doing it's job in flushing out abnormalities.
>Either you're a troon yourself or so mindmelted by RW ideology that you come across as one.Usually I get told I'm a repressed TIF.
Womanhood is literally just existing as a woman. Having a vag is enough to be one. Not some "UWU gorl power" checklist of personality traits between your head.
No. 1911745
>>1911714>Body parts have purposes and functions. Large percent of miscarriages are from the body still doing it's job in flushing out abnormalities. You somehow missed the point. I'm not arguing that body parts don't have functions–that is in fact my entire point. There is no "designer" though, these functions simply evolved.
>Usually I get told I'm a repressed TIF.Womanhood is literally just existing as a woman. Having a vag is enough to be one. Not some "UWU gorl power" checklist of personality traits between your head.
Yes, I very explicitly said that being a woman is just being a human of the female sex. Your lack of reading comprehension, childish aggression and breeding obsession certainly do seem TIF-like, I can see why people make that assumption.
No. 1911992
>>1911785>But you consistently equate recognizing sex differences, which include sexual organs and their functions, to me somehow valuing women only for those traits."it all comes down to babies" is very much just valuing women for breeding. I'm the one saying our part simply exist and have functions, you're the one saying we exist to fuck and breed.
>You've been locked in on semantics your entire time posting. Saying tits are for babies as a response toward people finding them inappropriate when exposed isn't offensive.Yes, saying our body parts are for someone other than ourselves is offensive, on top of being untrue. I've already gone into great detail as to why.
>It's not saying a woman's body only serves to breed, but instead that our body primes itself for that function.No, it doesn't. The body attempts to reject from the endometrium or abort all embryos, and only doesn't do so when the embryo is parasitic enough to overcome her defenses against it. The placenta, which is made from paternal genes, is the whole reason it can do this. Without it, no pregnancies would ever occur.
No. 1912089
>>1912070Their post is just referring to the body's immune system attacking anything foreign. (duh) If the male is a different blood type, say negative and she is positive, the female's antibodies will react and attack the embryo.
The placenta forms an entirely separate circulatory system so white blood cells don't attack it.
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>>1911929I just think it's really funny to see accounts with headers like "misandry supreme" and a pfp of a pfp of Jodi Arias with a photoshopped gun, saying things like "um actually, the situation in Palestine is built upon decades of colonial imperialism coming to a head. I'm not justifying what they did, but as women, we should understand what the rage of the oppressed looks like. And then another user with a header like "kill all men with a Dworkin pfp going "actually, Israel is a legitimate state that has only sought peace, and there are other countries for Arabs. We should instead look at Israel as our ideal for a female-only state." again, It's a bit funny in a messed up way.
No. 1912385
>>1912384I don't want to harass people, I was just interested that such a scene even existed lol
i don't use social media so I'm not in the know
No. 1912537
>>1912402If we exist to breed, not breeding means we're failures.
That's why saying "we exist to breed" is offensive. It's minimizing women down to being "birthing people" and implying that women who don't (or can't) have children are failures, no matter how much you say "but it's totally fine if you choose not to do the thing that I believe you literally exist to do". Also, you're asserting your own philosophy onto the rest of humanity, and calling it truth. People are offended partly because they do not have the same philosophy as you, and your insistence reads very similarly to when a religious person asserts that they know the true meaning of life, and claims that anyone who disagrees with them is simply unenlightened.
No. 1912557
>>1912537species existence ≠ individual existence
you're getting worked up over nothing.
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>>1912623We can always count on the farmhands to swoop in days too late and threaten to lock the thread after everything has already calmed down, instead of nipping the derailing and infighting in the bud by banning those responsible when they were first reported.
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Does anyone know which users she’s talking about? She deactivated but she said they were popular users and were in the server (excluding Jah and Miffy apparently mentioned in a reply)
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>>1871565You're right, but this issue goes way back to the second wave. So many of them were obsessed with fetishizing lesbianism as the ultimate symbol and act against patriarchy. To this day, Julia Long still argues that sexuality is a choice, not that women should be celibate or seek independence, but just choose to be lesbian. I'm sorry, but you can't criticize any sort of movement when you're equally in denial of reality. This mentality leads to nutcases like Ti-Grace Atkinson departing from Radical Feminism after realizing that political lesbianism (which she helped found) was a failed experience cause she liked cock too much and Jill Johnson also had a similar experience, living on a women's commune during the day and sleeping with young men at night.
No. 1919028
>>1918357>>1918357i spoke to the blogger behind the now deleted or suspended menskez receipts blog and apparently there's proof of several people being accused of racism spuriously by her. there was no proof, she probably just misinterpreted some completely random thing and then ran away with it.
She's insane and thinks that everyone who criticizes her's lives revolve around her. she's not even a fucking feminist, and she doesn't want to associate with herself with radical feminism because she supports porn and she used to have a blog full of underage Japanese girls in BDSM shit back in 2019 (for at least half of the year). It was fully visible then – you could literally see it if you wanted to, but she pretended that she WaS GrOomEd and that she stopped consuming porn when she was like 15 or something.
despite the proof that people saw with their own eyes including me she kept lying about it for years.
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What the hell, I know Julie Bindel is Jewish, but I never expected this response from someone with a real feminist history and campaigning.
No. 1919265
>>1919217The IDF rape Palestinian women and girls. Israel is a safe space for sex offenders who've been arrested in the US. Judaism carries abhorrent messages about women and children.
Hamas is bad. You don't need to support Israel to say that.
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>>1919217IDF soldiers have admitted to raping 16-year-old girls and killing children while laughing about it. none of them have gone to jail for it. there's a long history of Israel's military committee human rights violations and killing civilians because they want to push Palestinians out of their land. Israel's defense minister dehumanized Palestinians and referred to them as animals recently. prior to that when Israel would deprive Palestinians of food and water they referred to that shit as returning them to the Stone age and "mowing the lawn". Israel funded Hamas in the '80s as a counterweight to the secular rebellion. If this is what she's calling "civilization", she's an idiot and a fascist.
anyhoo. almost every single britbonger i follow has been shilling hard for the colonizers, surprise!
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I agree with most of her points, but she's so grossly smug and condescending about it.
No. 1920437
>>1920391radfems aren't fundamentally liberal academics. radical feminism is heavily influenced by marxism. it's not a liberal movement and never has been.
the only radfems you'll see supporting the genocidal government who think carpet bombing a city of 2.2 million and cutting off their supplies and means of communication in response to the actions of one group are the centrist/soft left ones in anglo countries who think radical feminism is just about hating troons and have never read any theory in their lives.
israel=/=judaism btw, plenty of jews disagree with israel's treatment of palestine. including israeli jews, lots of israeli youths have refused to join the idf despite risking jail time.
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>>1920437>>1920391This swiftie has done more for feminism than radtwt chick
imagine calling yourself a feminist and defending genocide. Imagine thinking the only way to get back at terrorists is mass bombing children
Now I know how people felt post-9/11
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not sure if this fits here because it's more specifically gender critical, not radfem (we need a space for gc cows too, if not) but people are starting to get the sense Jenny Watson is just a grifter. she is the lesbian speed dating woman who is currently fundraising to open a female-only lesbian bar in London. picrel is her stall with hilariously half-arsed display, with little low quality stickers and badges.
>blocks those questioning her (even those who are her supporters)
>has publicly shared the names of some people who helped her but wanted to remain anonymous
>shared private group chats from LGB orgs
>is asking for a looooot of money and isn't transparent about how it's being put to use
No. 1920956
>>1920946it's all speculation. gc people are just wary of her now and she has pissed off a lot of people with her behaviour.
i wish there were better quality pictures of her stall. it looks so bad kek
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A former ex of Jah has came forward, stating that she essentially ditched all FiLiA on-goings (Jah was personally paid for and flown out by JKR) EXCEPT for the private dinner with JKR that she and a few other feminists were invited to, to have a threesome with an aggressive scrote. She is allowing and endorsing him to sexually harass and threaten other women on her behalf and even brought him into their shared AirBNB.
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>>1922136I knew she was a stupid and annoying but I had no idea she was THIS stupid.
No. 1926073
>>1920391How can there be a thread on radfems if none of you even understand what a radfem is?
>>1912384She wasn't genuinely asking. She was making fun of you
No. 1932607
>>1929385Idk. Karen, Brittany, Exulansic, Lisa Michele and some others all have weird echo-chamber communities of high school bullies/mean girls. I think they all have cluster B personality disorders. It's really embarrassing to see this hivemind in action when you watch their streams. I mean I like to watch their videos calling out troon lunacy but their black and white thinking makes them appear kinda dumb and immature.
For instance, Karen saying any man who ever wears any womens' clothes is acting out his fetish which imo is homophobic. There's a difference between a man wearing a bra and high heels for sexual pleasure and a gnc dude who wears a normal skirt for fashion reasons.
Or when Buck Angel was on ASTF's channel a lot of her viewers were unhinged and calling her a pedophile that belongs in jail kek. Not that there's not a lot to criticize Buck for but the way they go about it. It's all so off-putting. There just isn't any nuance with these people most of the time. No wonder they are infighting within their own community so often.
No. 1935511
>>1935302Just found out about miffy and scrolling her feed was maddening.
She’s obviously very traumatized and kinda understands radical feminism but can’t get out of her beppie/abused mindset. Reading her posts is schizophrenic. Critical of men one second and then shitting on women and posting about being addicted to drugs the next.
No. 1936090
>>1935535I understand desperate women who resort to prostitution because they have no support structure, aren’t educated, and have no skills. Miffy could, in the very least, use all of the free time and money she affords herself with being a sex worker (as she gloats about constantly) to invest in herself. Build a foundation, start towards an actual career path, but she doesn’t. She spends all of her money on beppie-chan aliexpress clothes, hello kitty merchandise, gamer pcs, and illicit drugs. She spends all of her free time hanging out with other mentally ill people.
She doesn’t have to immediately go live outside in a fucking tent. No woman stays a prostitute forever. It’s exceedingly ironic she calls herself a radfem while doing less for her situation than worse-off women who aren’t even exposed to feminist rhetoric.
No. 1936355
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>>1935302This girl is obsessed with TIMs it’s fucking weird. It must be some fucked up trauma response to getting rapehon’d.
> infact [this upper middle class white male whose claim to fame is tv jailbait fake lesbo porn] displays more insight into the nuances of gender as a socially constructed class system than most cis women do> so many cis women fetishise rape and abuse bc women [are groomed] into eroticising their own pain and suffering, unlike trannies who fetishizes rape just for the coom and proof they’re a real woman No. 1936441
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do you think this post was made by a Radfem or tradthot?
No. 1936704
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This might be an unpopular option, but there's a tendency with a lot of radfems to deny reality almost as much as most TRAs. I see this a lot with the whole bone marrow cloning thing; that one unresearched science paper is essentially a holy text for radfems, on par with the Transhumanist manifesto . so many radfemsbase theories and entire futures regarding it. The recently big thing is this Popsci article written by two liberal feminist anthropologists about how ancient women were better hunters then men, one of whom is supportive of "historical trans people". Just like with most very isolated examples, speculation and straight-up pop-science, to state only did women hunt, but they hunted more and better than men, and that's simply not true. Most evidence suggests that women did take part in some-scale of hunting in HG societies, but their role would have been limited. Even a teenage male has a better acumen to indicate most hunting requirements than women. That isn't to say that in tribes, women wouldn't have taken some childless women part in the campaign or men didn't take part in gathering either. In a tribe of 40 people everything would have related to survival above all else and whose best for each job.
No. 1936787
>>1936739You can't trap large game with simple traps.
And no, the hunting methods used were herding and chasing animals in a planned, intelligent way to corner and surround them, not blindly chasing them in a persistence hunt as some have baselessly suggested and popularised OR more commonly moving very slowly and stopping to lie in wait until an animal walks up to you. Bows and throwing spears were and are used at very very close range this was always the case for hunting from huntergatherers to the nobility hunting in the late middle ages. Because you don't want to fail your chance. These are the two categories of real, documented hunting methods worldwide. This persistence hunting myth is actually particular to modern western culture/industry. Tied up in the surging popularising of long distance running in the late 20th century, which was/is a health fad (as usual, decidedly unhealthy). It must be good if we evolved to do it, right? The idea follows from the fad, not the other way around.
Women hunting really depends on the society, both its culture and environment, but women hunting large game seemingly never happened. Small game caught by trapping, netting, and fishing could be done by women and men unless a society has gender roles prohibiting it (societies are diverse and not determined strictly materially). Big game is certainly more worthwhile, so small game has to be easy enough and abundant enough to be worthwhile. It generally is.
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>>1936787but the article isn't arguing that women were making traps or catching small gage, but actual doing persistence hunting with spears, using a patchwork of pop-sci to justify her end conclusion.
No. 1936835
>>1936787Regardless of your large game points, you're working from the assumption of total specialization, and I invite you to actually think about how delusional it is. Not just from a feminist/social constructionist viewpoint, but in purely evolutionary terms. You have two sexes, one has the more valuable gamete. But if most cheap gamete carriers die, the valuable gamete carriers die because they're specialized to be near incapable of basic survival.
Try to simulate the trajectory of this animal. Does this actually make sense to you?
No. 1936891
>>1936787day to day calories were small game that was trapped and edible roots. to feed even a small kin group of seven people everyone has to be searching. you'd set your traps, go gather most of the day, then come back and check traps. big game hunting was not the event, it was a huge expenditure of calories for a very low success rate and just not an efficient use of time and energy as gathering while traps are set. traps, nets, snares, fishing baskets were like the automation technology of that time, they worked for you, cost you nothing in calories, and freed up your time to gather. it was so fucking important to make and maintain traps, and men made them too. men weaved carrying baskets, fish baskets, sun protection, and tarps just as much as women did. Weaving was like 3d printing. big game hunting was most likely a fall/winter activity hinging on catching prey during migration that would result in a caloric extra that could be dried and boost the larder for survival.
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Not gonna lie I'm starting to hate radfems as much as libfems.
No. 1937956
>>1937879The objection that was repeated the most was that no one has a right to children, but that was usually followed by "of course sperm donation is fine cause it's nothing like surrogacy." Second most popular objection was no one has a right to make men donate, almost always followed by "but since men want to, and it doesn't put their bodies and health at risk, it's fine."
The dumbest objection was "men donate when young and dumb. What if they grow up and realize how serious being a father is and feel bad cause they have children out there that they will never know." This was just one person though.
Second dumbest: "every child has the right to know their father." It was a minority view, but way too many people said that.
Lastly, there was a couple of people objecting to the process of sperm donation in general because 1) knowingly having a child that you will never know is trashy and 2) sperm donation sometimes results in dozens of half siblings who will never know each other.
https://ovarit.com/o/WomensLiberation/516338/do-you-think-lesbians-have-a-right-to-having-children-via-sperm-donation No. 1937977
>>1937956>The objection that was repeated the most was that no one has a right to children, but that was usually followed by "of course sperm donation is fine cause it's nothing like surrogacy." Second most popular objection was no one has a right to make men donate, almost always followed by "but since men want to, and it doesn't put their bodies and health at risk, it's fine."Are they autistic? When discussing rights in this context, it's obvious that OP is asking if lesbians
should be able to pursue sperm donation to make their families, not that men should be forced by law to become sperm donors. Saying "gay people and interracial couples have the right to marry" isn't saying anyone can be forced into gay or interracial marriages, just that consenting adults part of them can marry.
>Second dumbest: "every child has the right to know their father." It was a minority view, but way too many people said that. That's just full blown tradtard rhetoric. Not surprising since I get the impression most Ovarit users are dumpy, unaccomplished boymom housewives.
Very interesting how their takes on "biological reality" shift so easily. Lesbian mothers should not both be on their child's birth certificate(an administrative document, not a breeding certificate), the sperm donor should be on it, and the non-related mother should have to adopt her own child all in the name of muh biological realituh…but if a surrogate gives birth to a child created from another woman's eggs,
she is somehow the mother and not the woman who is actually related to it.
No. 1938180
>>1937879>>1937870To anyone who is intellectually curious and who can do about a couple of minutes worth of google searches, you will find out that sperm donation is not without its caveats. There is no limit how many siblings you may have as a product of sperm donation in the US. So you can accidentally date a sibling. Children born using sperm donation are not always in favor of it. In fact, there are a lot of activists who oppose sperm donation because they were conceived via sperm donation.
Y'all need to be less lazy and antisemitism. Or at least try
No. 1938282
>>1937977>>1937956>Second dumbest: "every child has the right to know their father." It was a minority view, but way too many people said that. as a Lesbian nonna, I'm sure plenty of ovarit users are stupid theory only online feminist but like second nonna said there is a reason why kids born from sperm or egg donation want it to stop. As someone who grew up with my mom and dad I know how important it was for me to understand why I physically look like that and develop a healthy body image etc… I do believe every kid has the right to know how their father look like, will age, and how his family members looks like.
sage for off topic
No. 1938348
>>1936514I really want to know who funds her/that website she runs. there's no way it's self sustaining, all they do is rip off troon stories from the work of other people/places several days after the fact, and then try and pass it off as their own work.
Some kind of 'Thiel-ian' cash infusion (bought and paid for shilling), would also explain her laughable attempt to morph into this 'based' RW 4chan
TERF persona she tries so hard to project on twitter.
No. 1938546
>>1938348>Some kind of 'Thiel-ian' cash infusion (bought and paid for shilling), Who would buy and pay for someone to run a
terf website.
No. 1938636
>>1938180>Children born using sperm donation are not always in favor of it. In fact, there are a lot of activists who oppose sperm donation because they were conceived via sperm donation. Most of these people fall into the woo woo "muh primal wound, muh genetic confusion" camp and unironically spout anti-miscegenation talking points and believe anyone not born into a 1950's style nuclear family is doomed to a life of depression. I've seen them, along with the salty adoptees weirdos, unironically suggest the government keep full breeding records of all citizens and give them full access to the personal medical information of donors/birth parents who want nothing to do with them. No actual data backs up their points, and I don't take them seriously at all.
>>1938282>I'm a lesbian, but I unironically believe in the beauty and righteousness of heterosexualityThe absolute state of "radfems" kek
No. 1938639
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>>1938505nona you can find better by banging a hobo under the bridge
No. 1938641
>>1938636If they honestly cared about the genetic thing they'd be pushing for default paternity testing of all straight couples. If it's all about the child's access to their genetic information, it's fine to make sure dad is the biological parent right? Lesbians are such a tiny minority we're basically statistically insignificant, I'm sure that the amount of cases where bio father isn't Nigel is far higher than the percentage of lesbians who use sperm donation.
But no they only ever complain about lesbians. It's just a way to rationalize their homophobia.
No. 1938675
>>1938641Plus, it's not like there aren't studies done on donor-conceived people, and IIRC most were ambivalent/uninterested in their donors. Children do best when raised by lesbian mothers(followed by gay fathers, funnily enough), so it's not like their "concerns" are due to genuine child welfare concerns.
The het tradfems who oppose lesbians being parents on the basis of "biological reality" are usually fine with non-biological fathers being recognized on their child's birth certificate because he's of the sex that
can produce sperm, even if he personally can't, and therefore recognizing him as the father isn't a "lie".
No. 1938848
>>1938638nah I needed to see how stunning my paternal grandmother is to understand why I'm so pretty, bitch.
>>1938636I don't need to uphold some marxist bookworm feminism ideology who invented polilesbianism to cope with liking dicks kek. I only care about female supremacy.
A kid having this
>>1938639 as a donor will surely get identity formation issues and could only blame it on mommy and daddy or their 2 moms for such a terrible choice, good headstart in life.
Does it mean I think me or other lesbians should not have biological children?
No, but using some state or big pharma approved genetic is terrible. If I have kids it's also to build relationship with other women, what is important is not for the kid to see his dad but to know his paternal family. If you have appropriate moids in your wife's family I would choose one there, but if she is estranged from them find an appropriate moid with great female family members to help you and your wife. Have standards for fuck sake
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1939171
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>>1938348Well yeah, that happened, she said someone rich gave her a "hefty donation." As far as I know she has two billionaire followers: Marc Andreesen of Andreesen Horowitz (follows her personal account) and JK Rowling (follows Reduxx) so it could have been either of them. Ummm, Marc Andreesen is very much a Peter Thiel type so if you're looking for a "Silicon Valley conspiracy" angle here, this brand-new milk will keep you well hydrated.
I must say though as someone who is herself a full time content creator, Anna's rich backer likely doesn't mean what you think it does. Have you ever heard of the 80/20 rule? Like 80% of a business's sales come from 20% of the customers? It's practically a law in economics and it holds not just for businesses but essentially every human endeavor.
So here's the dirty truth about every creative person you follow: if she does it full time she's got a rich backer or two. The mainstream squeaky clean ones have corporations behind them, the more indie/alt/controversial ones have individual rich people behind them. The five dollar donations your working class followers give you never add up to a full time living. At least not until you hit multi-million follower count territory. If someone is influencing full time with a follower count in the thousands, someone rich is sending them stacks.
I see no evidence that this is affecting Anna's written output. She has always had right wing sounding opinions and has generally struck me as one of those crypto right wingers who hides behind a tankie type ideology because their real beliefs result in auto-bans from social media. Not so necessary on Twitter… er, X… these days, but I mean she's been crafting her public persona for years now. It'd be weird and incongruent if she were suddenly like "yo Trump 2024!" out of nowhere.
No. 1940070
>>1940000So like most people, she's missing the point like everyone missed the point of those "have a monkey pick a doll or a mechanical object" experiments.
Females are not specialized, males are.
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Alright, who's the right-wing dude-bro that Meghan Murphy has been listening to? Because this is just a textbook example of mindless RW dude-bro rhetoric.
No. 1941336
>>1940908Her argument that "there are roles only men/women should have" is rooted in a fairness fallacy wherein if males are specialized for task X, then women are specialized for task Y. This is empirically incorrect. In most mammals, females are generalists task wise, while males are highly specialized. Evolution predicts this because someone bearing the expensive gamete and effectively creating a population growth bottleneck by having a limited number of internal gestations can't afford to be specialized (like, let's say, some female insects with a completely different reproductive trajectory). Let's assume that all males died and the tribe has to protect themselves from predators, but they're specialized to be only capable of birthing children and nothing else. How are there 8 billion humans today if this is the case? This is simply not survivable.
Even on a genetic level, males are closer to their reproductive optima than females are. To put it simply, a male is much more built for passing his genes (at a great expense to his soma) than a female is. So the correct observation is that females can be assigned to do anything (prosocial effort, violence, hard labor), while males are best suited for things predicted by their reproductive program (violence, hard labor). Any deviation from this will bear massive societal costs because it's unnatural, and will require many crutches to palliate (not fix - because it's inherently not sustainable).
I blame the common philosophical approach of "divine complementary sexes". I get it, it's an intuitively nice and appealing notion, but there is physically no such thing. Sexual reproduction is by definition asymmetrical.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1941340
>>1941279Males do not respond to therapy because introspection is detrimental to their fitness. Unfortunately, they don't respond to the gym either. So both are wrong because they try to fix something that's not technically a bug, but a feature.
For women, honing a complex skill is most definitely beneficial.
No. 1941341
>>1941339I'll admit that I didn't watch the video, because I'd rather eat glass than listen to someone talk this long. If she had written it down, it would be a different story.
From the way OP described it, I assumed she was going for the standard RW/evopsych "females are deeply specialized because males are" POV.
No. 1945735
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looking up lesbian radical feminists is such a journey of disappointment, cause I'm genuinely convinced that at most only 1% of these women are actually attracted to women, I was reading about a founder of a prominent rad-fem magazine in the 1980's(she even wrote picrel) who claimed to be a lesbian and maybe thought she was one, until she met a man who she liked and was attracted to and had a crisis of faith and realized she was straight the whole time, but at least she was honest and admitted she was straight, so many early radfems were "lesbians" but don't actually have sex with women, their lesbian relationships are being room-mates with their friends and there's nothing wrong with that, but it isn't lesbianism.(derailing, lack of sage)
No. 1947290
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>>1947038You don't believe she is a fakebian while she makes confusing statements about what being a lesbian is, in this rambly incomprehensible rant she states:
- I am a lesbian, though I identified as bi
- The only reason why she identified as a bisexual that fucked multiple men is because she's autistic
- She says that she used to see lesbians as safe but now she sees many of us being evil and attacking bisexual women
- Most importantly she claims the reason why she is a lesbian is because she has been abused and neglected by tall attractive men her whole life, that the lack of attention from her mother instilled a need in her to seek female companionship who will be loyal and support her no matter what.
- She states if she wants she can take some psychedelics and just turn straight?
No. 1947291
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>>1947290Here she is also stating that a guy she fucked deserved getting fucked by her while claiming she’s a lesbian lmao
No. 1947343
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>>1947290I guess history does rhyme. According to Phyllis Chesler, throughout the second-wave lesbianism was fetishized as the ultimate act of "rebellion" against men. However, most radical feminists were straight, and despite all the claims, many of them were sleeping with men behind the scenes or had secret husbands and boyfriends. Jill Johnston is the best example of this. She wrote what is considered the foundational text of separatism feminism, "Lesbian Nation: The Feminist Solution," and claimed that all women are lesbians as a matter of choice. But you know what she did her entire "career"? She wrote articles, reviewed plays, and slept with young men. She would be living on a women's commune during the day and sleeping with local college men at night, and she eventually got kicked out for this, but she was not the only one.
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No. 1947380
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>muslim
>rad-leaning
>Islamaphones dni
words really have no meaning to these morons.
No. 1947482
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>>1947343samefag, I really do recommend Phyllis Chesler's autobiography, 'Politically Incorrect Feminist,' to see how the second-wave movement splintered after having such a strong start, and to learn about the various personalities that shaped the movement(both minor and major). It's both funny and kind of sad because you see a lot of the same issues that are found in modern feminism. Most RF autobiographies unintentionally become comedies that are hilarious, infuriating, and confusing, but this one is more of a drama-comedy.
No. 1948749
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Anna Slatz coping with her cosmetic surgery addiction.
No. 1949144
>>1949012Which is bonkers. Gay men can be misogynistic and aren't above criticism, but where does she get off hyperfocusing on them when most of her audience are the kind of moid that want to repeal the 19th amendment? The last time I checked in on her bullshit saw her fuming at a gay couple who adopted a baby(who were specifically chosen as parents by the birth mother!) to the raucous applause of a bunch of Christian nationalist kooks. I don't see how any feminists could take her seriously.
>>1949026I mean, most of them are anywhere from avowedly anti-feminist proto-tradwives who just hate troons to teen girls and young women trying to find a fringe group to be edgy in, so that's not surprising.
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>>1949238When did I imply that I'm not?
No. 1949401
>>1947482tbf, this is an issue with broader leftist movements in general, where you will have bookish "ideologists" who are obsessed with theory and might even create foundational texts but aren't necessarily confident in speaking IRL and they aren't really sociable either(look up any interview with Dworkin, she is pretty awkward in speaking). Then you have the charismatic opportunist, who understands the basics of whatever theory, but they could easily be anything else if the circumstances were different, they could have been a fascist, nationalist, or a regular democratic politician. To them, this is a means to an end. and because the charismatic opportunists are better with people, less dogmatic, and more flexible in warping theory to suit their needs, more often than not, they end up taking power. Betty Friedan effectively made herself leader of the feminist movement because she was better at talking to people.
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Well, this is just racism.
No. 1949711
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>>1949688They'll create some designated shitting streets over there.
(racebait) No. 1949945
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Can she even go one day without sperging over India and fags? The act is getting kinda old.
No. 1950001
>>1949945No idea what everyone here is smoking, but she's completely wrong. The top beauty trends are fillers, surgery that gives you a permanent insta filter, and BBL. Far be it from me to defend moids, but these trends are driven primarily by (female)instagram influencers and celebs, not gay men. Girls and young women flock to instagram, see these influencers post heavily 'shopped, strictly curated "candid" photos, feel bad about themselves for having pores and not being 125 lbs with a DD cup, and seek surgery to reach the impossible ideal that was presented to them as a achievable so long as they worked hard enough. This is always how female beauty standards have been, it's just the technology and "ideal" itself that changes.
Idk what kind of retard you need to be to think having big tits and a fat ass while having a tiny waist and low bodyfat as a female beauty standard is a gay moid thing kek. This is the moron who panders to neo-nazis to fund her fake tits, not an intellectual.
No. 1950243
>>1950200Yes because they think it will attract straight men. Faggots only want masculine straight males and not other feminine fags.
>>1950099Most make up influencers are fags. They're the ones pushing the drag queen make look on women and telling us that our natural faces aren't enough because of jealously.
No. 1950391
>>1950160Are gay men responsible for her losing her job by writing a puff piece on a neo-Nazi and having to turn to e-pandering to viciously misogynistic RW moids to fund her BBL?
Speaking of accountability, why do bimbo "radfems" and radfem orbiters have none? Men, gay ones included, do so much shit worthy of calling out, but the focus is always on their poor choices and how everyone but them is responsible for them.
No. 1950406
>>1950139I live in one of the gayest parts of the country. The ones who do this are emulating the insta influencers/actresses/singers who do it, often to get into the fashion/makeup world. Unlike how men harass and belittle women who have male-dominant hobbies or professions, women warmly welcome men into theirs. That being said it's by no means a common fashion, if anything it's looked down upon among gay men since they think fem gay guys reflect poorly on them as a whole and more masc ones get more positive attention. I live in one of the gayest parts of the country, what things that they "push for" am I not aware of? You sound like a conservative nutjob tbh, not surprising since most so-called radfems get along with them fantastically
>>1950264This thread is full of screeching about "fags" and supporting 4chan-tier racism. It's either full of moids or Slatz-esque dumpy faildaughters who turned to pandering to the above-mentioned moids to find a place to belong. No wonder the average woman won't touch radical feminism with a stick
No. 1950424
>>1950406Maybe it's a repressive eastern euro cultural thing, but a lot of openly gay men will go full borderline hsts here with surgeries, bbls, massive overfilled lips, insta baddie makeup and so on.
>what things that they "push for" am I not aware ofI just meant general misogyny and perpetuation of beauty culture, rituals, anorexia and harmful fashion trends. They're way more aggressive about it than normie pickmes. Sorry for sounding like a tradtard for a moment, I'm not implying homosexuality is degeneracy kek
No. 1950694
>>1950430>All misogyny is bad, but I don't rank "hehe vaginas smell like fish" as high as "force women and little girls to give birth, make divorce illegal as god commands" With the same logic women who are mean to fags online are not as bad as the men who murder them irl so why are you getting mad at us?
Many fags are closeted religious bigots too who force young girls to marry them and bear their children while they fuck male prostitutes on the side.
I'm also laughing at the idea that if I don't worship cocksucking paedophiles it means I love tradfags.
As a woman who will never date men both straight and gay men are equally obstacles in my life. I don't see why I should give fags a pass when a lot of them are male supremacists who say women aren't smart enough to do certain careers and then gatekeep us out of them.
No. 1950718
>>1950535who are you talking about>
>>1950621I don't see why not, these threads have included minor radfems and radfems from 60 years ago.
No. 1950742
>>1950001Wait, but Anna herself got a BBL and a bunch of other plastic surgery:
>>1251567,
>>1252808,
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No. 1951937
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>women who have auto-immune diseases just have a victim mentality
What the fuck is wrong with her?
No. 1951976
>>1951836She's a greyzone cow, she started going onto fox and tucker to be this intense socialist talking head it's been a weird turn. Greyzone really activates my tinfoil (both because they're always covering lies in media and because every journalist there has insane crazy eyes and has the mannerisms of a low-level actor more than a tv journalist and always convey things in an unhinged manner that makes people who believe it look crazy lol).
>>1951829I think she belongs in leftcows. Her and her husband have more in common with Chapo Traphouse/Bad Faith Pod/etc than radical feminism. They move in the same media circles.
No. 1952180
>>1951937Didn't Murphy go through the
terf to tradthot pipeline? I'm pretty sure she doesn't identify as a radfem anymore. It's crazy how many women from the radfem wave in 2017-2021 are now becoming tradthots.
No. 1952211
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Sage for personal lolcow. I'm the anon from earlier who mentioned this one particularly crazy radfem in NYC.
Melissa Connelly might be certifiably crazy. She goes by dykepoetmel on Instagram and social media but it looks like she blocked/deleted a bunch of people after she realized that "Eli Erlick", the trans she called a rapist and yelled at at an NYC gay bar made her a lot of enemies. This is when I first heard of her.
Last I was still on her Instagram, she would post a lot about late-night coke binges and obsessive radfem memes. It was freaky knowing I share a city with someone unhinged enough to do the kind of stuff several tumblr blogs are trying to support her for.
This tumblr post from a year ago has a lot more detail on her very public meltdown that apparently got her banned from all the gay bars in NYC until she could publicly redeem herself. I guess acting unhinged in public might have some consequences.
https://kittyit.tumblr.com/post/698940429879640064/mel-needs-our-support-her-instagram-is No. 1952214
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I was collateral damage of her last radfem manic phase, got deleted, so no Instagram milk I can post. Sorry everyone
No. 1952383
>>1951937>acting like a victim is something that women are more comfortable doing than menhas she missed the whole damn tranny movement? never heard of incels who whine that their life is shit because they don't have government given bangmaid? men complaining that they are shit at school because it's a feminine conspiracy against them?
difference is that people just take male victimhood seriously, fuck what a retard
No. 1952456
>>1952180It's not surprising at all tbh. The primary
terf talking point against trannies boils down to women being too mentally and physically incompetent to ever compete with males on an equal playing field and how we're only truly good at breeding and birthing, which is exactly what conservatives think. It makes total sense that conservatives glommed onto their "radical feminist" movement so easily. Terfs themselves by and large seem to be unaccomplished housewives and faildaughters, with their breeding 'n birthing capacity being the only thing they feel gives their lives meaning. Them going full conservative is just the logical conclusion of their beliefs.
(bait) No. 1952473
>>1952461Not a tranny, nor is this bait. Are you trying to deny that the "
terf" movement is full of conservatives? Why do self-described radical feminist organizations accept funding from ultraconservative activist groups like the Heritage Foundation and CPAC and ape their talking points on abortion and birth control? Why are cons(and Nazis, recently) their strongest and most devoted allies? Why do so many "radical feminists" trad out?
lmao @ the analpained tradthot "
terf" mod having a tantrum in between loads of laundry and darning her huzzzzbund's socks
(ban evasion) No. 1952557
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This is what phemoid has been up to lately. Didn’t recognize her at first, this is male gaze-y even for her
No. 1952564
>>1952473Don’t agree on all your points but I do agree the
terf to tradthot pipeline is strangely prevalent, my guess is because many radfems assign
victim status to all women by default and don’t believe we are really capable of true autonomy or agency because everything we do must be influenced and controlled by men.
For example the prostitution angle: the radfem take is that ALL women in the sex industry are helpless
victims who were forced or coerced into sexual slavery and desperately want to escape but can’t. While that may be true for a lot of women in the industry, it’s certainly not true for all of them. Trust me, I used to work with a women’s organization that would give out supplies and aid to prostitutes in my city and a lot of the time we were met with suspicion, hostility and condescension from these very hardened women. Some of them would even brag on social media about how we were all suckers and how they enjoyed getting a bunch of free stuff from our charity. They had absolutely no intention of quitting the industry and honestly seemed to enjoy it while looking down on other women for being ‘wagies’ and ‘slaves’ and bragging about how they could make in a night what most women earn in a month. Many of them were also trying to get their daughters or female family members into the industry too and act sort of as their pimps/madams.
Assigning ALL women as inherently good, pure, dindu nuffin
victim angels is extremely infantilizing and simply doesn’t line up with reality. They’re also very unwilling to tackle the topic of women who commit sexual or physical abuse towards their partners and kids and straight up deny it exists or make a joke out of it a lot of the time. They have a very strong black and white thinking complex and don’t seem to understand that women are complex beings and have capacity for evil too, not just men.
No. 1952576
>>1952564Maybe all the social media grifter “radfems” bounce around from ideology or use it as a
victim shield, but most serious radfems stick to earning legal gains for women before tackling social bias. They often get labeled uncool ovarit boomers, so what can you do but ignore the rad thots and other juveniles and prevent them from dominating the movement.
No. 1952580
>>1952290There's zero evidence that Eli ever did that, and if there is, I'll change my POV. I hate rapists too but she came off like she just hated trans people and wanted to aggravate one.
Defend this kind of weirdness any way that you want, but a ton of people in the LGBT world in NYC know of her and not for any good reason. Stop associating yourself with weirdos like this, and if you are, at least be honest about who they are.
No. 1952592
>>1952580Do you ask for video evidence + rape kits everytime a woman says she's been raped..? I agree that there is a considerable amount of radfems with zero sense of optics, but what's with the defense of Erlick? Why are you invested in clearing the name of some troon who is allegedly a coercive '
toxic dom' and a believer in 'false memories' (common pedo/rapist legal defense)
No. 1952594
>>1952592We all know Erlick as a person is one shit stain but he's not the point. Shitty trans people, esp rapists SHOULD be taken down. But this wasn't anything meaningful for feminism or women or even herself, it was her trying to look like a hero for her own ego, so of course it went left and ruined her instead of Erlick. I don't expect radfems to be perfectly calm considering their ideology but again, what did this help? Even Blaire White did more to expose him than she did, and this radfem is the one who got all the consequences.
If you're gonna be a radfem, at least think before you do shit like this in public out of emotion and end up making Erlick momentarily the good guy to way too many people in NYC. Did that help the LGBT at all?
No. 1952597
>>1952594You have jumped from
>there's no evidence he's a rapistto
>Erlick as a person is one shit stain but he's not the pointwhen you made him the point. This isn't a thread for activism, it's a cow thread, and you've managed to make any milk sound boring with the fingerwagging.
I deleted my original reply to reformat and then I just rewrote what I was going to say anyway because I realised anon is retarded and autistic. No. 1952604
>>1952597I'm not sure if you know but
>POVs can change when you're not just getting your info from radfems with extremist views on the worldIt's a thread to talk about fake and milky radfem activists. I'm not gonna get baited into a back and forth, you both have the same ego problems while telling yourselves it's for the benefit of women. Women didn't benefit from her actions, predatory men in the LGBT did
Move on, anon.
No. 1952607
>>1952604Kek you think there's only two others.
>POVs can change when you're not just getting your info from radfems with extremist views on the worldIn the space of two fucking posts you made, you fucking moron. The point I was making is that you've shifted the goalposts because you're sperging about one mentally ill radfem who blocked you on Instagram and gave you a boo boo.
No. 1952623
>>1952618Anything is vendettaposting or whatever if you like the person being talked about. Give it up, we get it, you like her, that isn't what this thread is for.
Can we move on past whatever you're doing now? Finally?
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>>1951937This insufferable NLOG is in the same boat as Anna Slatz, she’s been spouting misogynistic shit forever, she’s hated amongst Twitter radfems and after this latest spergathon she’s managed to make herself a pariah amongst the “gender critical” fuckwits. Except for this retard, who agrees with her
No. 1952691
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>>1952180She credits getting banned from Twitter as her moving away from radical feminism. Another thing you can thank Jonathan "Wax My Lady Balls" Yaniv for.
In other news, "TERFs" Exulansic and Karen Davis/You're Kidding Right? are having a spat online. To be fair to Ex, it seems to mostly be Karen sperging, as per usual. But for fucks sake, Exulansic should know by now to not engage with this woman. It's telling that these fake rad fems/TERFs in name only spend their time sperging and fighting, while actual Radical Feminists/TERFs like Kara Dansky do actual work.
No. 1952717
>>1952691I've sorta been following their argument. It seems that Karen took issue with Exulansic saying that autogynephilia should be seen as a disability to which Karen vehemently disagreed with. I do see both sides tbh because as dumb as it may seem, I can see how autogynephilia can be seen as a mental problem but on the other hand, it's mostly just guys who consume way too much porn and have brainrot. I'm just not sure if I feel that autogynephilia should be seen as a disability.
But on Karen's front, I don't agree with her that all crossdressing that moids do is a fetish and should be punishable. I can understand guys dressing like hookers but she thinks if a man so much as wears a skirt or dress, he's doing it to threaten women. I'm a millennial so maybe that's part of it but personally as long as these men stay out of women's spaces, I couldn't care less what they do with their own lives. I get Karen's logic that if you simply ban men from crossdressing, it could prevent these men entering our spaces but I feel like that's just wishful thinking.
No. 1952725
>>1952594>trans peopleyou're not a person tranny
>>1952580can they ban the rape loving tranny already? he's shitting the mtf thread too.
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and now I'm 100% convinced that Radfem Hitler is likely a troon.
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>>1869908Kek at this retarded drivel. Insane yapping. Last time I checked women no matter their status class background etc aren’t in control of any of these things and all wars and conflicts and tragedies around the world have been started and funded by men (of all races) Genuinely bizarre to talk to other women like this because they come from a region of the world where the men in it exploited and helped to destroy your nation, especially when said women seem to have more empathy for you than men of your own culture/background, it’s a universal moid trait to want to kill rape and destroy, not a “western” (Wdym) one. this seems like schizophrenia tbh, if not that then pure jealousy and envy, a theme I notice a lot with the kinds of girls who post these things. I hope the White women that see that post respect themselves enough to not even engage with it because if I were them I’d laugh, send to my groupchat and keep scrolling.
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>>1953002Samefag, see picrel
No. 1953167
>>1953105ntayrt and I'm not a fan of rfh but her tweets lately read to me like she's purposely trying to stir up the MRA/tatetard pot and
trigger men for engagement
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>>1947038not a fakebian? kekkkkk she's not even pretending anymore
No. 1954038
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>>1952557everytime someone calls her out on her attention seeking histrionic behaviors, she either calls them a retard or starts spouting some pseudo-intellectual drivel about how she’s trying to “send a message” and that she has some sort of master plan to peak women or whatever. she assumes everyone laughing at her is too dumb to get whatever joke she’s making but the truth is everyone knows she’s a grifter, through and through.
however it seems she’s married her pedophile boyfriend, considering she’s been referring to him as husband recently? also lol @ thinking a body count under 30 is going to somehow appease the audience of RW’er moids she’s trying to pander to
No. 1954088
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Slatz shiftling lightly but slowly on progressive racism against black people when? You can tell she's dying to say the word.
No. 1954138
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Tankie radfems still always confuse me? like how can you be "male exclusionary" and yet promote communist and nationalist states and movements.
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Riddle me this. Does she really think that rich moids won't pursue poorer younger women because they need control and cheap access to sex? After chasing troons for years you'd assume she'd know rich scrotes can be degenerates (see Epstein island) but when you unironically post about Keanu Reeves feeling true love, we shouldn't expect further from her.
No. 1954321
>>1954297These men want both types. They are so greedy and male version of “love” is harems and madonna-whore mating strategy, they will get a smart, good madonna wife to keep and suck labour and support from to build and keep up their business, while also stringing along a bunch of low-class vapid escort girls on the side to fuck and do degradable things to with less support and investment for them.
What men are really trying to do is beauty and pussy harvest, its this motive also centrally linked to the Red Pill Ego to Tranny pipeline. Idiotic insecure-ego’d males who think beauty is something they can “absorb” from fornicating with lots of women and that they gain a female’s beauty after fucking her are really closeted trannies waiting to happen. Soon his jealousy will manifest outward and he will start to try and alter his ugly male physique and face, all from being too obsessed with female beauty and pussy. Many promiscuous males and troons really have this “female beauty-absorbing obsession” mindset in their behaviour. This is how the Red Pill Masc Man to Tranny pipeline is revealed to confused girls.
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>>1954138I hate how frivolous shit like wearing makeup or having a Nigel gets your Radfem McLicense™ revoked, but simping misogynistic dictators and bumfuck shithole countries where women are treated like trash is "okay". Marital rape not being a crime in China and North Korea? Russia having laxed laws on domestic violence and child pornography? Ceaușescu treating women like baby factories? Iran being fucking Iran? Ackchyually it's all CIA psyops or it's justified somehow! And feminism is idpol wokism backed by Soros! /s
>>1954139> Nonna: "Tankie radfems confuse me"> You: "REEEEEEEEEE ZiONiSt DeTeCtEd"You clearly saw yourself in the photo and are the one who is "butthurted" here. It's you in picrel too,
nonny?
(infighting) No. 1954501
>>1834867>>1936090there was actually a thread yesterday on /lgbt/ about miffy, which turned into miffy putting her foot in her mouth.Talking about how she is against sex workers that enable pedo fantasies but she does it herself.
I dont know how to share threads but its archived in /lgbt/ board