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And his gf, Cheyenne
Check out the previous thread for all of the drama so far. Most of it, almost all really, is centered around his manipulative and abusive girlfriend, Cheyenne.
The last thread was full, so I made a new one. Sorry if I fucked it up!
I'm with you, actually. I never call her "Chey" because it's too cutesy for someone that's such a raging cunt of a person.
But I totally get being lazy too haha
I like how he doesn't know what games they're playing again.
It's like none of them actually talk anymore. He doesn't tell anyone they were even going to the zoo or whatever, doesn't talk to anyone to schedule.
D&D didn't happen and no one said anything.
Things are obviously a-ok and everyone is super close.
Probably still should communicate with people since it's their jobs/business, though, lol.
I guess you could say they're the…
I mean, picking Snake because he's "meatier" doesn't mean that Cry isn't chubby, lol. I would choose someone who had more of a muscular build over someone who has more of a pudgy body.
.. but.. we are talking about eating people here.
All I'm trying to say is, Cry doesn't have to be skinny. He could still be chubby. Russ just doesn't want to fucking eat him, lol.
Especially after getting his gallbladder removed, which typically causes weight gain. No one ever said Cry wasn't heavy.
Maybe? But she's also an abusive cunt. So, who fucking knows. I just have hope he's not completely blind to it all, but he might be. Seems like everyone keeps letting everything happen anyways.
Cheyenne runs their world.
She leaves Wednesday, I believe. >>195046
Adding on to that: There was one time during wind down Cheyenne had asked Cry if he wanted to come visit her at her house since her dad was going on vacation or something. And he just straight up just said "No thank you". After that she was quiet for a bit. It was the best thing to witness.
See, stuff like this gives me hope. If you were happy and wanted to be together.. Why wouldn't you jump at that? There's so much that we don't know.
Especially since they would rather lie to us about everything, like why that TGIVG worth Angel ended so abruptly and the next Late Night was canceled.
Snake said on Angel's D&D stream that they're doing Iso on Wednesday. 10 bucks says Cheyenne quit.
I found it. It's 25:45.
It's just so weird to me that he does turn her down. If I were in a long distance relationship, I would be doing everything I could to be with the one I love. They've been together 3 YEARS? And he doesn't care to visit her? That's more telling than anything.
Damn, I thought I put the timestamp there. Sorry about that.. But I agree. And I think this was like two weeks after she had visited before too.
I feel like despite her visiting right now, they might still be having problems. Like usually they post a bit more when together, especially her. I honestly bet she got pissed at Cry for not waking her up for the LNC stream. I could see her doing that.
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I could be reaching but… Hmm?
She deleted this from her blog though. Which tbh kinda makes me feel bad for posting it if she didn't want it shown on her blog.
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So she went home a day early. Hmm..
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This guy knows.
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Welp. She pretty much just told us.
I definitely feel like that's what she's saying. That she only sees bullies win, and we know Cheyenne definitely got her way just based on everything that has happened.
Obviously that tweet was about Trump, but it does have a lot inbetween the lines too.
I agree with some of it, but from the posting Angel has done, I think there has been some ziegs-level bullying again. There was obviously an issue about Angel being on TGIVG. Not going over on time, Cry and Russ have gone over before with no issue. This had to have been because it was Cry, Russ AND Angel, and she wasn't there.
Maybe not even made aware that Angel was going to be there.
I think Angel being around has really upset Chey, and she wanted her out. Probably said something to Angel? Then Russ stood up for her about it to Cry, which is why Saturday was skipped.
Just my theory. I did see Cry pop into Angel's chat earlier when she was streaming today. I honestly just think this is Chey hating Angel and having kicked her out of things. Maybe that's why Cry/Chey left Iso, because it was either them or Angel?
Just a theory.
She read it out and replied to one, but that was it. I'm sure it was an attempt at that, especially since their d&d was that day.
It's just so obvious now that Cheyenne kicked her out or bullied her away and Angel is struggling with that and wanting to speak out against her. Probably doesn't because of Russ.
He does. Which DOES make me feel bad for him, but at the same time…
NOTHING will change unless he fucking does something about it.
He'll forever just have to "adjust" and lose friends, loved ones, opportunities, all because he's too fucking sad to do anything. Maybe once he should think about seeking help, reaching out, and actually fucking making things right for himself and those around him. Sucks to be depressed, but come on, it will NEVER get better with that attitude.
>>196793>…hopefully you'll be able to beat your demons. Both him and her.
Nice touch there my friend
On another note, it's been three days since Chay's "I'll miss you" tweet. However, all we've got from Cry was his insightful political opinion and a butt. kek
Well if her intention was to keep her away from Cry, that seems like a bust. They still follow each other on Twitter and like it said a few posts ago, Cry was in her chat.
Maybe she just wants all the attention so she can be the only girl in LNC. Whenever Angel has been on the stream, or even in chat, the response to her is so positive. So, instead of improving herself as a person she just bullied away the competition.
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PFFT. Is he seriously using his "job" as a video game player as his argument?
I get that he just doesn't like addressing anything outside of his comfort zone but it just sounds like "I will make money no matter what I do or where I live so I don't care what happens to everyone else in my country, suck it losers.">>197184
This is true. I play video games and when I tried to fill out my ballot it called me a lame nerd and caught on fire. It's a hard life we live :\
no actually, I agree with him. The fuck does his opinion on politics really matter for, why are people mad he isn't commenting on it? I get more mad at youtubers/celebs who don't know shit about politics yet give everyone their holier than thou speeches on candidates.
Not saying you aren't allowed to speak publicly about who you support or not if you're in the public eye, but you don't have to say anything of you don't want to either.
Exactly! He knows he doesn't know much about politics.
the logic behind that is: why do people care about his opinion on these major things since he's just some guy playing video games.
His views shouldn't matter to you, he's here to do lets plays.
it's his choice to vote too. If he didn't believe in either candidate he shouldn't just go vote because big scary trump might (already did) win the election.
this is very off topic but I'm tired of people getting mad at others for not voting (for hilary)
Yeah I was meaning her bullying and drama that she's started, my bad lol >>197384
Agreed. It feels super like.. fake. At least more than usual.
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cough tryhard cough
Is this bitch serious?
I actually really like Felix. He is a genuine person who does a lot of charity work. (Also, I find his girlfriend adorable.)
Seriously though, Chey sounds mad and envious as hell.
It started to get more crazy as they switch to the next game. It was enjoyable. She leaves about after the first third of racing game.
I think she's lowkey scared of witwix downing her the way he does lol.
Is she really considered a crew member at this point? She doesn't really attended majority of the games and goes off and plays something else. She never showed up to twitchcon not once and didn't participate much in the anniversary.
OMG she's so thirsty for fame… she tries so hard to be "one of the popular kidz" god she's annoying as fuck>>198011
She didn't attend 'cause she wasn't invited LOL best decision they've ever made
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I didn't think about that, but you're completely right. Last time someone stood up against Cheyenne, really nothing came of it. She doesn't really have a good reason to step forward.
She has posted about being bitter and upset, though, so I think she definitely would still like to.
The only thing I could remember with TKBreezy is he called her "cats" because that was her battle.net name and she demanded that he call her Cheyenne. It was really awkward the rest of the night.
But, TKBreezy apologized the next stream saying he didn't mean to call her by cats which is really gross that he felt or was told to apologize for calling her by her on-screen name when I'm sure he isn't even a little bit close to her.
They don't care. Cry makes enough money. Even if he stopped, as long as youtube keeps existing, his old vids will be watched and he'll get paid.
She is with him, so she's good. He wouldn't make her get a job. They'll probably keep doing what they're doing, until they get kids and then Chey will be fulltime mother.
That's what I predict atleast.
It was absolutely fake. If she actually cared, she would have altered her behavior.. even a little. She didn't. She continued to shit all over everyone and now she's bullied another person away.
She's so terrible.
It explains why his uploads have been less frequent and low quality. Also explains why his friends are pretty much all gone. Poor Cry.
So, is he just going to let her control everything or is someone going to confront him about it?
I think their guild is called Video Game Gang, I don't remember what server. I think his rogue's name is subforsub or something, I'm sure it's easily looked up.
Cry is definitely depressed. It's pretty obvious after that clip of him saying that he "doesn't care and will just adjust." which is too bad, because I'm sure the other guys have likely talked to him about things. He should absolutely see a therapist but I doubt he ever would.
Yeah. I feel bad for the guy.
I'm hoping he's going to come to his senses and break up with the girl, for his own good.
Ugh. I know people are blaming Cry and I get it, but jfc, he just sounds so fucking depressed. It's almost impossible to see things clearly when you're that deep in the hole, and I almost guarantee that in his mind, Chey is "all he has" and that's why he can't let her go, even though he can kind of see what she's doing. It's a fucking shame though. She's such a fucking hosebeast, I can't even.
I mean, the simple fact is that we don't know what Cry is like in real life - but he has never come off as being a shitty enough to person to deserve Chey, imo. I really hope he eventually loses her and gets some help.
He does need some damn confidence. I think that goes hand in hand with the depression… but if she would just GTFO, he would probably feel significantly better and have a shot at rebuilding friendships. All of them are just hanging on for his sake, IMO, so I can't imagine that they wouldn't be happy to help him recover after kicking Chey to the curb.
She's just the fucking worst.
I googled "cryaotic face" and I got a picture of a dude with brown hair and glasses, and Cry stated that he wears glasses and has brown hair, but I'm not sure if it is Cry because he said he has blue eyes and it looked like this guy had brown eyes. I googled "cryaotic", his supposed full name, and "face" and got the same picture again.
I don't think the picture of the fat dude with the sunglasses is Cry, in my opinion.
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Are you talking about this guy? This is what comes up when I google "Cryaotic Face"
Because he's a youtuber.
And I don't think he's Cry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwGocrgzpRk
Same I don't think so either. Also Cheyenne has said that he doesn't have brown hair, so idk.>>201974
Yeah, that's definitely not him lol.
LOL what? He doesn't "owe it" to anyone. He plays video games and provides audio commentary - that doesn't obligate him to open up his appearance for the amusement and dissection of idiots online. No one is entitled to someone's privacy just because they're a "fan", and the rest of his crew can do whatever they want because they're not Cry.
If he wants to be private, he can be private.
TBH, this sense of entitlement just screams "crazy fan girl who has no sense of boundaries".
I'm a different Anon, but I thought this was funny. Do we call anyone who disagrees with us Cry or Cheyenne? Because that's dumb.
If it were Cheyenne, I doubt they would be responding civilly. There wasn't enough expletives or general cruelty she exudes for it to be her.
I do agree though. He doesn't "owe us" anything. He provides free entertainment to those who watch his streams and YouTube videos.
But it's he hiding his looks for safety reasons? No. It's absolutely a self confidence issue. He probably is super average, or just plain unattractive. Oh well. If you watch because you think he's probably hot, or you hope he is, I'm 99% sure you're dead wrong, so you might as well watch someone else.
But nah, he doesn't owe us anything.
Whatever you say, Cry
Kidding. I agree. I also think that the mystery is one of the main draws of his channel for a lot of people. They can imagine him as looking any way they want and mold him into their perfect husbando. If he revealed what he looked like I genuinely think a lot of his fans, especially the younger ones, would move on to a different channel.
He's stopping long let's plays on his channel and making them shorter so they can stop consuming so much of his time
Because you know, being a no life cuck is already very time consuming in its own right
You obviously didn't watch til the end cause the interesting part was at 14:38
(I'll just embed the video here for quick access)
I've never understood why people think his voice is sexy. I always thought he legitimately sounded like a chubby nerd trying to sound cool (and apparently I was right). Also his general cadence is annoying.>>203356
Hopefully he ACTUALLY tries to communicate more.
"Because you know, being a no life cuck is already very time consuming in its own right"
I like how he said he prefers the immediate response in chat
uh huh, I thought he stopped youtube because his network fucked him over with copyrights and monetisation so he started streaming more in response….
but sure, instant response
do you literally do anything else than stay up all night and stream
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I dunno, Chey just sounds so passive aggressive and Cry is, well, being himself here so I guess it's not really strange but. To think that this is the first thing she posts since the 15th is just interesting to me.
I didn't know she hated him drinking. If that's the case, then I could see how this spineless cuck blatantly stating that he's drinking on social media might be a clue in.
Then again, that could just be wishful thinking ;;
Yeah, because anyone who doesn't agree with your stupid as fuck comment MUST be Cheyanne.
You must be new to her, btw, because the thought that she would actually defend Cry instead of bitch at everyone calling her terrible is laughable.
LOL, welcome to lolcow? Why are you even here?
FWIW, I am a fan of Cry. I find a lot of his LPs really entertaining, and feel like he's probably a nice guy overall. With that said, this shit with Chey has been a trainwreck for a long time. It's interesting to see how it plays out.
Why do you have to meet someone to know that a situation is seriously fucked up? It's very obvious that Cheyenne is an extremely abusive person. She's bullied away multiple people and treats Cry like absolute garbage.
No one is HAPPY when Cheyenne is hurting people. We're angry.
We're HAPPY if there are signs he's finally escaping a relationship he should have gotten out of ages ago. She's a sick person and should absolutely seek help.
But, yeah, like the Anon before me said.. why the fuck are you here lol
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lol, TGI is canceled again and it sounds like Cry is STILL drinking? There's no way he'd still be drunk/hungover so late the next day without drinking a shit ton.
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Maybe it's finally happened?
I've been lurking a while on this drama since i used to be a cry fan from way back, and holy shit, i knew she was toxic, but not to this extent.
I was kinda iffy of the relationship, but i kept quiet because if you talk bad about her, there comes an army of bat-wielding cave trolls to defend her every breath.
It's kinda pathetic how fangirls shield her being abusive as hell to cry just to get goody points with him, when they should be trying to snap him out of this. As someone who was friends with somone very similar to Cheyenne, i really feel for the guy. These people will consume you and hide they are doing so very well, and unless you snap out of it it'll drain you to zero and it will leave you isolated and miserable, just so you have to cling harder to them.
At this point i believe Cry might end up losing all the LNC, and eventually, his viewers, if he keeps letting her get away with everything she does. She is slowly kicking out everyone from the stream, and it's really sad to see people who contributed greatly go away to let a boring, annoying, petty babby complain for 99% of the stream. If she did bully Angel out like she did Ziegs, and Cry still defends her, the dude's gone fucking mad.
I haven't been keeping up with him as of recently but the last time any of his streams were kinda enjoyable, was the skyrim stream he did. Most of his content right now seems a half-assed snore fest, it's quite obvious he does not enjoy what he does as much as he did, and it's very coincidental that it all started going downhill when he started going out with this thing.
I hope he snaps out of it or has someone help him get through this, the dude obviously has issues, and being in a, quite obviously, abusive relationship with no one snapping their fingers at him to wake up out of fear is not gonna improve that.
I used to be such a huge fan of his, it makes me really sad seeing him fuck what he has build up over the years for a girl like this.
Hope the signs are true and they are in the end stages of this mess. But i wouldn't put it past her to use the info she has on him to blackmail him to keep up with her. :/
Does anyone else think this sounds like the aftermath of Ziegs, though? She tried to gain pity after she bullied Ziegs away by saying she was depressed and had BPD.. And that she was "trying" and this sounds very similar. Like she's preparing for Angel to finally just say the words and not just hint like she has.
Maybe she's trying to get the pity train rolling BEFORE it happens. Probably trying to use the "look how sad I am" angle on Cry so he doesn't leave.
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This was on Mash's (snakes girlfriend and like best friend of angels, for those who don't know) Tumblr.
It's good to see she at least has support from her friends, even if she feels like she can't say anything about it :(
I feel like nothing will change because NO ONE says anything about it though.
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huh and snake is one of the most peaceful and diplomatic dudes there, he's the most chill
even though I feel like he could step up more, or maybe we just never see it publically
This is so vague but I feel like if he could give context, he would. I thought it could be about LNC stuff/Cheyenne too.
He's been the most candid so far, with even saying that so many people left Iso because of a conflict.
He's so chill though.. I can only assume that something behind the scenes happened.
No, none of them have appeared on Cry's channel since the TGIVG that Cheyenne shut down that Angel was on.
My personal opinion? I think it's Cheyenne & Sage vs Mash & Angel. It may have definitely been Cheyenne vs Angel in the beginning, but that's what it's ended up being, I believe.
I'm kinda grouping Sage in with the people that suck up to Cheyenne to get more popular, or maybe even get accepted into LNC. Seems super fake. It was a huuuge red flag when she called Cheyenne "nothing but kind." I mean, please.
Plus, I didn't take a screenshot of it because I didn't think much of it at the time, she had said in Cry's chat that she thought Angel was annoying, more or less. This was after she left Shards of Iso, but before the TGIVG thing. I also see her scolding people in chat all the time. When Iso was being posted on Cry's channel, if anything was said that was negative towards Cheyenne, she always fought for her. Kinda gross tbh
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sad about what I wonder
Sad about the fact that people are starting to get so pissed about her ruining pretty much fucking everything, probably.
I'm glad she's sad. She should be. Seeing everyone else be so depressed because of her actions has been pretty sad. I hope she feels miserable, considering what she's done to Ziegs, and most likely Angel.
either what >>206970
or maybe Cry finally stood up for himself and his friends and dumped her ass finally or at least called her out on her domineering bullshit and isn't talking to her.>>207047
what did he do?
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The ass kissing from Riskem to Cheyenne is so fucking annoying. Sometimes i wonder why he's always so active to sucking up to her.
Also top kek at the "community missing her".
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I hate Cheyenne. This is from Angels Tumblr.
Man, this sucks.
I feel like everything is just coming apart as far as the LNC goes. They don't even seem to have fun now, everyone is miserable. Cheyenne is such a terrible fucking person, I can't believe Cry let it get this fucking bad.
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Mash and Angel both reblogged this on their Tumblr's.
And guess who blamed her shitty behavior on her mental illness multiple times?
I think it's interesting that there's a lot of Mash and Angel obviously hinting towards Cheyenne being a huge cunt, but there's nothing from Sage.
I think the theories from a few posts ago are right and that it really is Cheyenne & Sage vs Mash and Angel. Really makes me uncomfortable about Sage… and it's really weird, wasn't Jund someone who often spoke out against Cheyenne? Now his girlfriend is latched onto her in hopes to.. what.. be a part of the LNC?
All of it seems so shady. I feel really bad for Angel and Mash, but they really SHOULD just join together and just speak out.
Hmm. That's kinda interestng. That sucks honestly, since I liked Sage at first. But I did find it weird how she literally argued with Scott on her stream.
Also Cheyenne is back… Yay.
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I'm like, 99% sure he jacks off to her 24/7. Just saying.
I wasn't around for that. I have seen that whenever Angel comes around in chat, Sage leaves shortly after.
I also notice that Sage is in Cry's chat A LOT more now that Angel/Mash aren't around.
I'm thinking she joined in on the bullying, myself.>>208170
Oh goody. As soon as I hear her, I closed out. I can't fucking stand that bitch. I just get pissed any time I hear her annoying ass voice now.
When they got in a lobby a fan was excited and said "Hey guys! Hey Cry!" and Cheyenne said "Shut the fuck up, no one gives a shit about you."
Because she's a fucking cunt.
But Cry and Russ told her not say that and to calm down.
She says this shit to excited FANS.
Fans that said 4 words. I can't imagine what she says off-stream. What a terrible fucking person.
HOOOOO BOYYY. Most of the other cows on /snow/ just come off as stupid and petty but this fucking cunt is beyond help. "Look guys I'm not like all the other halfway-decent internet famous people, I treat my fans and coworkers like garbage and then 'laugh it off' anytime anyone has the balls to call me out in order to trick people into thinking THEY'RE the unreasonable ones!"
I get so mad at both her and Cry (although I know he's probably depressed and just coping) because it pisses me the fuck off when people are so obviously staying with shitty people in order to not "rock the boat". The boat NEEDS rocking Cry!!! The boat's on fucking fire at this point for fuck's sake, getting a little water on deck could ONLY HELP YOU.
Or trying to laugh at the awkward moment of 2 people scolding her to diffuse the situation and act like she wasn't serious. >>208313
Scott didn't have it? I remember them playing that game several times before and I'm positive he was there… Also it was on the schedule, why wouldn't he? Seems like an excuse.
Maybe because he doesn't have to deal with his bitch of a girlfriend. They are better. He seems more at ease. Same with TGIVG streams with Russ, but I miss Angel being on those occasionally. And Alex. That Mario Party and Sellout Station stream were so great and made me laugh a ton.
I miss them!
pretty much her just being like "im so sad :(((( pls donate to me since im sad"
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I bet she's fucking dying inside though.
You know, probably both. She pretends she's joking but she means the shut she says. If she didn't, she'd prove it in her actions, but time and time again she just hurts everyone around her.
She's a psychotic bully so I just assume all her mean shit is serious.
She's probably just trying to say "hey look guys we are totally fine even if it seems like my boyfriend is avoiding me and I disappeared for a bit."
When they're together, yeah. I feel like Cry at least has energy when he isn't around her. Has more inflection and isn't as boring.
When they're together they don't talk much and they just sound like robots when they do.
They are obviously unhappy together.
I still stand by the theory that Scott flip-flopped on Cheyenne because Sage started using her to try to be popular (which is so stupid)
He was such a big force against her but since Sage said she was "nothing but kind" he's been better towards her.. and things have been rocky/non-existent with Russ & Snake + Angel & Mash.
I wish I had the full story but so much seems so fucked up.
Of course they'll draw her more flatteringly, lol. They want senpai to notice them.
They don't draw her lazy eye and mole as big as it should be either.
Yeah but he was talking about HER having Stockholm Syndrome. I guess that's more irony.
I still think Cry is super aware how fucked up his relationship with Cheyenne is.>>210868
Nah it'd still matter. She's IS ugly, though, inside and out so why not make fun of her looks? She's a shitty person. No one cares about her fee-fees. :(
That's what it looks like, at least. Cry and Cheyenne have been really distant to each other, and Cheyenne to viewers. Cry has been better with his solo streams, and when he does actually do TGIVG with Russ.
Jund and Sage only seem friendly towards Cry/Cheyenne. Distant towards everyone else.
Russ, Snake, Angel and Mash have all seemed very tight knit. They do 2 D&D streams together (one on Snake's channel, one on Angel's) and are always interacting on twitter with each other.
I think Cry/Russ still are friends, but things seem super strained. Otherwise, I think you're pretty much right now.
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And Sage just posted this about an hour or so earlier..
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Here's Mash's reply to Angel too.
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She deleted and posted a different follow up reply.
lol, Angel writes out such a long, sad post, and Mash replies with so much love and support and Sage just calls them "shitters on the internet."
Is she Cheyenne 2? My god.
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i wonder what she did that was horrible or makes people "think" she's horrible.
I dunno but I found this part of Angel's post:>Maybe, they think I’m uninformed? Like, there hasn’t been several people who have come to me, showing me what was said? Things they’ve done?
pretty interesting. Especially since she bolded showing. Like, maybe she has proof of stuff and that's why Sage is trying to garner sympathy with the "bunch of fans they can sick on you at their whim."
Also, what fans? Aren't Mash and Angel kinda on the smaller side? I feel like they don't even stream beyond playing D&D, or am I wrong?
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I went to look at that post and that was missing, so I guess she already edited that out, haha.
Maybe she knows about us!
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Cracked me the fuck up.
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NOP. switches Cry and Chey's position
There, more accurate.
Same, dude! I'm actually a bit surprised those anons called it about her. She really does try to pretend to be the nice girl. In her twitter description she says she tries to "positively impact someone every day."
Seems to be a real snake in mouse's clothing.
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somehow I don't think Sage retweeting this is some coinkydink.
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Not sure if this is relevant anymore.
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Yeah this was awkward af.
To make it worse Cry didn't even really react. If Cheyenne found out Cry messaged a girl referring to them as "babygirl" or "mama" there would of been a shitstorm the size of Hurricane Katrina headed his way.
I agree with this. Sage started playing WoW with Cheyenne and Cry, she was on their WoW streams a couple times with them, and I think that's when she wormed her way in.
I'm sure they saw it beneficial for both of them.
Once Sage had Cheyenne as a "friend" it was time to get rid of the other girls. I used to like Sage. I had watched a bunch of her streams and she used to complain about views and how other people are liked but not really her and she would wonder why. I think she was really upset about Angel being around and possibly stealing the spotlight from her?
Oh! I remember this! At least on stream. When they started it up, Cheyenne is throwing a fit because she's "hungry" and doesn't want to do it. Russ then brings up he told Angel she could join in and Cry says that he's down. Cheyenne just shuts it all down saying she doesn't have anywhere to go get food or make so to just start. So, no Angel.
I need to go through V2, because I'm sure it's easy to find.
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Liberty ass kissing again.
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What's she on about?
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From Angel's tumblr.
Let's keep it up boyyyys!
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Meanwhile from Sage..
Plus a "I'm so tired of living in fear" on her Tumblr.
Do you really have to be afraid tho if you've done nothing wrong?
"I'm so tired of living in fear" but I'm such a good person guys, I've totally done nothing wrong.
She's so fake.
But yeah, I think it's pretty obvious Angel doesn't come forward to protect them. It would completely change things, especially since it looks to involve Cheyenne AND Sage, so Cry and Jund would be in it. I doubt they'd be able to be around each other anymore.
It is an issue which is why they tell the people involved to keep it to themselves.
Look at it like this guys, if your friends prefered you to handle it a certain way, and by friends I mean Russ and Snake, would you be like well fuck you guys, I'm gonna start something anyway.
Let's just hope that there really are anons out there with some good stuff that are willing to fight for a good cause.
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I always found this one really telling. Jund actually let it slip that she's insulted him quite a bit and of course that's when Cry stepped in to shut him up
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Coyote knows a lot of shit about Cry and Cheyenne. I think he's mentioned before that it's because he's friends with Ziegs or someone else that was close to the crew
Cheating is shit, yeah, and if he did it then that's shitty. He'd get flak for it, sure. But people fuck up. What he's doing now through his inaction is a hundred times worse and much more deserving of hate.
If he'd just be a fucking man and fess up, be transparent, I doubt people would even fucking BELIEVE Cheyenne after all the shit she's done.
But, if he actually had a conscience he would have done it by now. But it'd be better if he did, because I imagine if this shit get's out there through a different channel it'll be a lot fucking worse for him than if he'd just spoke up.
Eh, posting his pics would be bad, but if he's ugly his fans might not believe that its really him. I wonder if she has 100% proofs of his identity, like videos or something.
Also she might have his nudes, which if posted with said 100% proofs would be very bad for him.
I don't see how releasing photos of Cry would reflect badly on him in the view of his fans though. Doing that would just shit on Cheyenne even more, by completely disrespecting his privacy.
Idk I'd like to think people aren't completely shit.
I think the post im referring to is from Oct/Nov 2014, if that helps.
Forgot to mention that she also sent a "stay the Fuck away from my boyfriend." to one of the ex mods.
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Okay, I was looking for the loyalty thing and I found this and just found the last line so funny. Like, damn right you trapped him
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I actually think Sage is cute, when she isn't trying super hard. Those recent "model" pictures she did, she had 10lbs of makeup on and was just screaming for any kind of attention.
Her personality is ugly as fuck though and her streams are fucking boring.
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She's pretty meh and the teeth don't help. Knowing she's a cunt makes her worse.
I am not, don't worry.
I'm somewhat close to them too.
Who ARE YOU PEOPLE?!
Damn, late to the party again. Anyway…>>213318
Hmm, so "half a bingo" means that the person got a part of it right, and a part of it wrong. I think the "right" part is that Cry is still going out with Chey because of something that Chey will do (or won't do) if they ever break up
. The "wrong" part is exposing his face
. It's probably deeper than that. This is just speculation but maybe Cry is lying about a certain aspect of his life and Chey will surely expose him when they break up.
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Ah, Sage as classy as ever. Still trying to act like an angel
Maybe he hasn't mentioned it because we ARE still hidden away and he doesn't want more people knowing about us.
I bet you anything at least one of the crew knows though. Or Sage or something.
That's why Sage was the only one left in chat after everything went down. Because SHE was the bullied one. That's why Angel has been so depressed, Mash supportive and Sage calling them "shitters on Internet" .. Because she's the bullied one.
I know for a fact that Sage complains and attacks Angel, because I've seen it. I've never seen Angel attack her before. So, if you have screenshots of that, please do share.
It's sad how obvious she is.
Girl, why don't you go make some money to fix your rat teeth instead? You're wasting your time here.
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You know what's one thing innocent people don't do? Make fake tumblr accounts to make others shut up or bully further.
The top was a response on Angel and Mash's recent post that caused all this.
The bottom is Sage's post she made and deleted.
Of course, everything is deleted now. Curiously they sound like the same person.
wait so an anon dude can send violent threats https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1481450486449.jpg
to one girl but we can't prove it was anyone specifically, but now this is evidence against another person? yall some biased motherfuckers lol
Ah, the same "Angel and Mash are bullies, Sage is their victim" we've seen in >>214058>>214091
Keep digging, Sage
You guys are wrong about Angel just being on the sideline or not being the instigator. It's both Angel and Mash, but MOSTLY Angel.
Told to me by someone on the inside, no i'm not telling who.
tl;dr - this forum
Come on, that bitch even looks like a bad person, does someone really believe that she's on the sideline?>>214101
So where is Sage from? Maybe if we ask nicely some farmhand will check this anon's IP? lol
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Mash sounded fine when she left. I'm not trying to say Sage is chill, but I just don't know why she left. That session, she literally just said "I have to go, bye" and signed off. Mash at least tried to give an explanation while Sage just ditched. I believe her when she said she left because they don't get along, I'm just unsure who initiated the problems.
Alright. I'm not going to post evidence, but I'm going to break it down real simple for you guys. Sage was being a bitch, like Cheyenne, but the other members weren't willing to take her shit. So she left.
Some of you acting like Sage is the victim here, dude, Cheyenne practically dismantled Iso. It only continued because the members were willing to do it on Snake's channel, and Snake was willing to do the leg work to get rid of Jund, Cry & Cheyenne's characters. But Cheyenne tried to stop the whole campaign, so really, the remaining members of Iso are the victims.
As for the tumblr "drama". After Angel and Mash got permabanned from the LNC, Sage goes around boasting on twitter and tumblr about how happy she is. Trying to rub salt in the wounds.
Sage is not the victim here, she just didn't win as cleanly as Cheyenne normally does.
No I'm not. I'm not going to post evidence, because there's none. But you can fucking see it.
Angel and Mash are nice people, who haven't tried to start shit. They've vented, that's it. Sage has tried to start shit - after getting Angel and Mash removed from LNC (notice how neither one of them even takes part in chat anymore) she then starts boasting about how good her life is. How she feels "safe now". Fuck yeah, anyone would vent about that.
As for Cheyenne dismantling Iso, hell that's practically public knowledge.
This does line up with
Angel's post. Especially the end part. >>211789
holy shit that's totally angel. there was so much personal hurt in that post, esp about the happiness part like you said
MMM SHITS JUICY
I'm just a fan theorising, but to me it's clear as day.
Cheyenne never seemed to enjoy D&D, or maybe it's just her monotone tricking me, but Cry was so excited for it. It's clear that he didn't want it to end.
Why'd Jund leave? Because he's on Sage's side, naturally.
We've spent like the last two days talking about how Sage has been acting like a bitch, and the rest is/was on tumblr. The timing of the posts from Sage, Angel and Mash makes it pretty obvious.
As I said, it's just a theory.
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Decided to go back in the way back machine. Not sure if it's relevant
Then what's the point of discussing then if we don't believe anything. What are we looking for? In my opinion, I think both Cheyenne and Sage are at fault. From what I've seen, that's what it adds up to.
But we can all believe what we want, really.
The person who noticed the similarity actually used normal punctuation >>214151
David Caruso over here analyzing punctuation for evidence
They didn't say that it was TOTALLY ANGEL HERE GUYS
It was another anon >>214155
I fail to see how that's an evidence of Angel posting here, but that doesn't even matter.
I do see that one anon who's trying to get us to drop the "Is Sage a bitch?" subject and they are really bad at it. >>214058
is my favorite part of this thread so far
That Sage fanboy seems a little bit too informed about Sage's life and Chey/Sage relationship tho, but whatever>>214227
I love it
Sage is a complete cunt and it's obvious. But at the end of the day, she doesn't matter, she wants to REAL bad but still doesn't really matter. And if Sage knows about it, Scott probably does. And some of the above posts defending Sage sound a whole like his pretentious know-it-all writing. Nice try though.
The real focus here should be Cheyenne. She is the root of all evil and that's more than simple to prove.>>214227
Last thing we should do is give up on this thread. I'm sure that's exactly what they'd want. I say we just keep on posting the evidence of their shitlery.
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You know all the real proof I need that Angel and Mash are the victims here? Who they're friends with. Snake (obviously more than friends but I digress) and Russ. Two people who are genuinely good people.
Who is on the other side? Scott and Cry. Two people who are not good people. I've seen Scott harass both Angel and Mash on Twitter for no fucking reason (pics included) and it's just like "What? Why? Why did you feel the need to post that?" Which sort of speaks volumes about him and who he's defending. In fairness though, he was tagged in the one on the left.
Except she wasn't directing it at Sage? It's pretty obvious he was jumping to that conclusion or he just wanted to start shit.
And nah, just because it's his girlfriend doesn't suddenly make him right for doing it. Don't have to look any further than his new found support for Cheyenne to know he's a shit.
All I've seen from Angel and Mash is them defending themselves and calling out being bullied. Then Sage almost immediately responding, either being passive aggressive or playing victim. I bet half the time Angel is referring to Cheyenne but then Sage makes it about herself. She seems very badly to want to be involved.
Her deleting her Tumblr is just another nail in her coffin. Maybe she was threatened more through anon, which really isn't right. I hope no one here is actually threatening violence against her because bullying the bully really isn't the answer. (Is it sad to say I wouldn't feel that way if it was Cheyenne?) I don't know why she wouldn't just disable anon. That said, maybe that anon made good on their "threat" and sent her a message detailing exactly what they knew, or maybe it was just bullshit. Either way, she sort of shed her innocent victim skin with her response to that. Realistically she should have either not acknowledged it or played the "Oh please just leave me alone I am so sad ;;;-;;;". What happened was she showed her true colors. "hop off anon, pussy" isn't much, but it's enough to make her seem guilty. Now here's my theory on why she deleted her tumblr. I will back it up with anecdotal evidence and I realize that doesn't mean much but fuck it. She deleted her tumblr for attention. That's all. It's just another step in the whole playing victim game. And hey it gets rid of all her posts of her being shitty at the same time so it's a win-win in her eyes.
Why do I think that? Because I was a shitty fucking teenager once. (I don't know how old Sage is, I'm guessing kinda young, if not, ooooh boy) I did things like that for attention all the fucking time. If something bad happened, a girlfriend breaking up with me for instance, I'd post some sad shit on my Facebook and then delete my account a day later. For attention. To make people worry about me, because it felt good. Thank fuck I grew out of that, but my point is people like that do exist and just going off what I've seen Sage is a prime candidate for shit like that.
And going off the whole "Having a hard life isn't an excuse" It isn't. Like it really fucking isn't. I've known and do know people who have been through fucked up shit. Emotional abuse, physical, rape. Y'know, some real fucked things. Are they assholes? Nah. Have they ever been assholes to me? Yes. But here's the thing, they apologized. I remember one night my friend told me she hated me, I don't remember the specifics of what was going on but I didn't exactly do anything to warrant that. I think my friend (her boyfriend) and I were taking a really long time fixing a car and she really wanted him home. I didn't respond, because I knew that it wasn't real. An hour or so later she apologized to me profusely. She didn't blame it on anything. She didn't blame it on what she's been through. She just said she was sorry. And that was enough. Just an apology was enough. It's really fucked that some people with issues or mental disorders decide to use it as an excuse, instead of recognizing in the moment that it is said issue that is making them act the way they are and doing something to change it.
I have obsessive compulsive disorder and it's unpleasant. At a young age I had the whole "ritual" thing drove out of my head because I was made aware that what I was doing was wrong. I still have symptoms, like the violent daydreams and stuff like that. But I've never used it as an excuse for being shitty. And I have been shitty, sure. Everybody has. But fuck all if I'm gonna blame it on a condition I have instead of owning that shit and apologizing.
I agree with most of what you are saying but Angel is pretty much worse in terms of attention seeking with every other Tweet or Tumblr post basically boiling down to "my life is a black abyss help me".
They're all acting like retarded girls
Oh I'm sure she definitely has threatened to do shit like that if he ever broke up with her. If that is the case I still think it's fucked up that he values his privacy over his friends and their general quality of life. If his face got out there, he'd get over it, as would everyone else in a week. And if Cheyenne did that? There would be no coming back from that. Most of the community respects his privacy and doesn't give a shit. It's just the occasional teen girl in chat going "OMG I WONDER WUT HE LOOKS LIKE!!!11! XD" that is more noticeable than the people that don't give a flying fuck.
Maybe that's just me, but fuck I would be willing to sacrifice my own comfort for the sake of my friends.
Yeah, I don't know. He isn't thinking it through at all. If he is so damn sure that she'd do that, then just do it before her. If he cheated, admit it. Then just fucking post a picture of himself. If he took control and just threw it all out there, there isn't shit she could do to him. Unfortunately she could easily post his address which would be fucked and it wouldn't surprise me if a retarded fan or two decided to show up at his door. But you know, he could easily move. I am sure he makes enough money to where that wouldn't be a huge issue. Then it's over. He would take his life back and everything would be so much fucking better.>>214396
Some rich (more than likely) guy that gives a shit ton of bits.
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Guys, what if it's the age thing? Like, she's always been cryptic about her age when they started dating and even on her tumblr, this is what it says. Maybe she has proof of him dating her when she wasn't actually legal and maybe he's afraid of getting in trouble? Just throwing out ideas at this point.
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Okay, a bit off topic but I had to post this. My first reaction was, "damn, we can't get lucky enough for you to leave again?" I just feel like it would be better for everyone in the long run, even Cheyenne
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all of these questions on her blog are amusing to me
Okay, she obviously knows how much Cry hates people calling him by his real name, but if you look on her tumblr she literally has things tagged as "me and ry". It's not a typo because its on multiple different pictures. It just seems rude and hypocritical.>>214472
Speaking of hypocritical, look at the second one lol. "If anyone tries to pull this bs abuse on you, don't stand for it. Delete that person from your life." Holy shit, she literally says things so much worse to Cry and the others. Guess she needs to delete herself from their lives.
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speaking of it lining up, check this out.
All it said was that it was posted a year ago, so I don't know if that helps. >>214480
She means she already answered that question. I searched it since there's an answer for it. >>214474
Cry has always never said what city he's lived in, yet if you look at her twitter pictures, she posted what airport she was at including the city name. It's hilarious.
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Starting to look like they may have come forward.
I don't know why you would delete ALL your accounts. If there were anons sending her messages from here, like >>214596
said, we just watch. We aren't vigilantes.
Who knows, though. Maybe she found out they have a bunch of stuff proving her actions so she just got rid of everything.
Actually her tumblr is back. Looks like she did get more anon messages, but honestly… Just turn off anon then. Her Instagram is there. Her twitch is gone though?
So as of right now it just looks like she took down her twitch unless you can rename that too.
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"Fix your rat teeth", daaamnnnn, I'm not a fan of sending things like this. Doesn't actually make you sound like an intelligent person.
If people are really digging into her private life like she said in her tweet, I can't really blame her for panicking. For all we know someone could have dug up her address or something in some of these "threats" she's mentioned.
Either that or she's full of shit.
…So it seems that she just took my post >>214073
rephrased it and sent it to herself to look like a victim. Nice.
And here is a reply to >>214073
which was clearly NOT posted by a farmer >>214075
Someone got offended, I wonder why.
Just another trick she tries to use to clear her name and present herself as a victim, nothing new. She still sucks at it though, because all those >>214638
look like they have been sent by the same person.
Oh and also I decided to look through the thread to see how many "ya'll"s we have here, just because I'm not a native english speaker and I've never seen this one a lot before, so it felt a bit weird that I've seen it before in the same thread…
I still think if Sage or Scott knew about here, we'd either hear him bitching all over twitter or we'd be seeing a lot more white knights defending them.
My guess is someone decided to play vigilante.
I like this anon's version more >>214053
Too many proofs of rat girl being here by herself for me.
Although my theory of it being only Sage seems to be wrong, I think there is at least one more person defending her.
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Lul. Funny how she stopped streaming again when it isn't her birthday week anymore.
When did they say that?
But if so:
Hi Cry, at the very least some of us here are genuinely worried about you. Know that help is always there and all you need to do is reach out, ok?
Why don't we have a nice tumblr for Chey with all our findings put together? I found one about Immortalhd's girlfriend which is very neatly made. This thread is relatively hidden, so if you really want things to change, maybe take it somewhere more public.
I don't know if links work here, but here is it anyway. http://alekschop.tumblr.com/post/148076144652/getvindictive-sovindictive-big-ass-drama
If it doesn't work you can just google "getvindictive real name" and click the second link.
That wasn't all one anon, I was the fake cry. It was a dumb joke lol.>>215077
Sage for OT but I was going through that persons tumblr and it gives me a good laugh seeing people get offended enough at Cow Chop that they stop watching. Is there a CC thread? I might make one if not. Funnily enough I actually discovered them via lolcow (someone posted a vid of their's in the Momokun thread).>>215118
I second the Pastebin thing.
In my opinion, there's a lot of proof that Cheyenne and Sage are not good people.
And yeah, Angel has just been sad. But, that's all that's been on her side. That's she's super sad.
I don't blame her for being sad if she was bullied, which it looks like she was.
You seem like one of those people that told Ziegs it was her fault for not stepping forward sooner, or going and facing Cheyenne about it.
She has everything again. It was just to get sympathy. I'm not even sure if anyone from her sent her those messages, other than the first one. The 3 really simple ones I think she sent herself, especially when that one anon said that their message about rat teeth was rephrased and sent.
I'm not sure. I do agree we should wait until someone comes out with what happened at D&D, but with what has been seen so far, and us already knowing that Cheyenne is NOT an innocent person, that things are starting to add up a bit.
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I can't believe how pussy whipped Cry is for this bitch. I could understand if she had a good personality to make up for her looks, but she doesn't. She is ugly inside and out.
Honestly, they were all quiet on d&d, and the only kinda fight was the last episode that Cry uploaded, and that seemed to be Mash and Sage.
I think it was all behind the scenes.
I have no idea, unless maybe.. They talk to people? Like normal people? And have friends and vent their problems and concerns?
Everything seems convoluted as fuck and maybe we should just go back to the obvious villain, Cheyenne.
I was the only one who called her teeth "rat teeth" before she posted those messages and I didn't send those.
Her teeth don't even look like rat teeth (also rats are cute, she's not), but I can't think of another animal they remind me of lol. The most important part here is that HER TEETH ARE UGLY AS HELL.
She looks exactly like a sneaky cunt and a coward btw, which in my book is way worse than a "straight-forward nasty cunt".
Deleting posts after you realize they're unnecessarily mean makes you a sneaky cunt instead of someone who was pissed off and regretted what they said, got it.>>216075
Dude you gotta be Angel lol, you have such a personal hatred for her its borderline weird
What personal hatred?
Listen to that anon pls >>216104
But anon, it's fun. Might as well enjoy the chaos for a bit until we get some delicious milk.
And judging by those messages Sage posted, she does know about us.
Eh, I'm sure you can come up with something better than this one.
This is fun, but we're getting a bit too far away from the thread theme, so let's just stick to bitching about Chey, Sage and everyone else, okay Sage?
It was kinda "meh" to me though, sorry lol
But yeah, back to hating Chey AND Sage
I really don't like all those attempts to kill this subject.
Also apparently I'm causing some major butthurts by mentioning her, which is nice!
And I'm not even shitting on her, I just mention her A LOT, but it gets the same results as shitting lol.
I fucking KNEW it. I had a feeling Sage both raped and killed Angel's family five Christmas's ago, and the fact that she's sad because of the Holidays only cements this fact.
Rly though that sucks, I also have friends with shithead families that make this time of the year fucking miserable.
Oh shit, that's bad.
If he died around this time last year then I can completely understand her depression and everything, especially if someone said anything mean when she tried to share her feelings or something.
Yeah, it's sad. But I believe it will get productive again once something happens.
Also Cheyenne seems to not be on Late Night so go enjoy while you can!
And as we don't know anything about Sage, we can't really say that she won't do it either, right?
Honestly thats exactly what I'd expect from someone with BPD, and if I'm right and they really did say or do something that horrible, then I don't think that Angel is being too dramatic, losing parents suck, and people being complete assholes about it suck even more.
I'm not saying she did it, but if she is as vile as Chey is, then she could have.
I hope she's not though.
I'm pretty sure its as simple as two girls being catty to each other. People like to overthink shit a LOT here.
I don't even think either of them care about the other anymore and Angel seems sad solely due to family reasons, which is obviously fair.
From what is on here, I'd say it's clear Sage had bullied people. Do you have screenshots of something that looks like Angel/Mash are guilty too? I haven't seen anything except what seems to be a single anon saying they did. >>216696
I agree, there is a ton of speculation and overthinking, but that one post from Angel that says she can't talk about what happened but it still hurts her says there's more to it than just family things.
I think it's really weird that whenever Sage is brought up, there seems to be someone who tries to completely shut the discussion down.
If you took each individual thing that's been on here from Sage, Angel and Mash and said "this doesn't prove anything," I would agree with you. If you look at everything as a whole, I believe it does. That's just me though. Constantly, it's been argued that this -one- thing doesn't mean anything, and ok, it doesn't. Everything together does though.
We're arguing in circles, though, and it's pretty boring.
Everything can be argued as speculation. It's the conclusions you make with the information you're presented with. If you don't want to think that Cheyenne or Sage bullied people, don't.
No one cares and we're not here to convince you, anon who suspiciously protects Sage at every opportunity. We observe, share, and come to our own conclusions.
As far as I can see, it has been "toned down." so who cares? She's obviously a bitch, maybe stop bringing her up if you don't want her brought up so much?>>217591
There's plenty of evidence on here. I'm not going to hold your hand and walk you through it all.>>217584
She has seemed to be missing again. Nothing on twitter, hasn't been on LNC in a while (except for a couple games maybe.) Maybe we're nearing the end of her reign of terror.
1 person may have allegedly said "kill yourself." You're being dramatic. I'm not even sure she didn't send those to herself, considering one on there was the rat teeth one, and the anon from here that had said she has rat teeth said they didn't send it.
The only message I believe she actually got was the anon that said they would release logs and screenshots.
She CAN just turn off anon. It just seemed like she wanted to prove a point with saying that Mash and Angel have a bunch of fans they can sick on her.
I'm honestly not sure whether or not that was true, I looked so heavily into it and couldn't find a shred of evidence against him aside from Cry just throwing an accusation. I was skeptical of both sides so I looked into it but honestly, I never found anything proving he did scam people. Maybe I missed something and please tell me if I did, but at the moment I'm inclined to think people were just theorizing something without giving solid proof.
While I don't condone what he did if it is true, I'm not happy with what Cry did either. Regardless of what he's done, Cry basically sending his fans to bully this guy with a passive aggressive tweet and then a hashtag "#FuckMorfar" just comes off as vindictive and cowardly to me. And then months later, he jokes about the guy's death without even making it clear he thought the death was fake. He just said something about the guy being dead during a stream, and started laughing really hard.
It just didn't sit well with me at all.
Jeez, that's probably around the time I stopped watching then because I definitely didn't see that. I don't think he's as nightmarish as Cheyenne, but he's definitely said things that make me more inclined to agree with the people here that say he ain't super innocent either.>>219900
Tumblr would attack you for saying that, so nah lol :P
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His recent tweet is hilariously relevant
V I D E O G A M E S
I feel like there's enough to be upset about without equating his video game decisions to real life ones.
Though he sucks at real ones, bringing up his video game ones just makes us look stupid.
A B S O L U T E L Y.
It's just over-analyzing and not concrete evidence to anything.
We're going to lose actual people who want to provide info and make em leave.
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Yeah it was mostly TGI. There was a few month period where she was there every other week or so, but it was a majority TGI that she was on.
Which I don't know why they don't just invite her for that considering Cheyenne isn't even on that ever.
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Deleted the account afterwards.
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It looks like she's trying to find another avenue to exploit her viewers for again.
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She did also did something similar in that fashion when she "deleted" her channel.
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She made this account and what's the first thing you see in her bio? A donation link to guilt people into donating. How petty.
I think it's more that she had to have one immediately up in her all account. Not to mention she had a donation goal up as well.
She's crazy similar to Cheyenne, it seems. Sees viewers as cash cows.
It was so boring but I did it for you, anon. https://www.twitch.tv/sageroo/v/110532462?t=01h30m00s
So at about 1:30:00 she's looking at something and says that she wishes she could go back in time and tell herself to stay away from "that community" because they're evil.
Then at 1:33:40ish she says it was a bad idea to check something on stream. Bunch more silence follows and she ends it, saying she's not in the mood.
So, heeeeeyyyy girl!
lmao right apart from the few random accusations we had going on earlier all of us have been cry fans and this place is currently the only space to be totally open about them so yeah I consider this a sort of community
regardless if it's one person posting or 100 the fact that not only people actually talk in here but we also get lurkers or new people coming from google search results means that there is demand for a place like this
and that speaks volumes about the state of the lnc in general
I mean there's proof of Sage bullying Angel, I have it, but to post it would definitely give away who I am and at the moment it's not worth it, especially if Sage is here.
But Sage knows what she's said and done, no matter how much she tries to pretend.
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What happened to the real Jund? Now people just let him get away with being a whiny piss baby. He used to use actually use logic and reasoning when arguing. Now he just starts witchhunts because he won't get his way. Example being that reddit thing he was being upset about a month or so a go. Saw a lot of people I know talk and reply to him.
Very true. Who cares if she's here. It just gets annoying with the arguments of her trying to defend herself with lame comebacks.
On a side note, Cheyenne sure has been staying out of the spotlight lately.
God she's ugly. She looks like a very mean person to me.
And also those mood changes, people don't go from laughing to poker face then back to laughing in a second. She's so fake.
I don't think she's ugly, but she looked better with longer hair. Short hair makes her face look super wide. At least she didn't cake on the makeup here like in her "photoshoot" (which was such an annoying cry for attention lol)
But if she's talking about this community, then we agree. Wish she had stayed away. I'm sure so do the people she's bullied.
Well still, then. Throw back to the other crew members (not Cheyenne not Cheyenne) since they don't make as much as him.
You can't control how much someone donates to you. Just be grateful. Don't be a whiny baby.
Thank you! I thought that was super sketchy. Why have people donate to you personally when there's an actual legitimate way to donate to Cry? You KNOW she used some of that on herself. >>224540
I kinda changed the subject this time, by mentioning that Cheyenne has been not around lately. This time wasn't Sage!
I think because she was caught checking lolcow on stream and talking about it that she may lay low a bit, lol. Then she can jump back in on how she thinks there's no actual proof of her being a terrible person when our guards are down.
"She gets invited to the LNC and Scott won't invite me unless he feels like he has to"
"She laughs too much and her laugh is SO annoying"
"She's so obnoxious"
"Why do people even like her? They like her for no reason. Why not me?"
"Russ just keeps her around because he wants to bone her."
-Actual reasons Sage has given in the past, to a handful of people.
that's why all this happened. Because, nothing happened and they don't care.
This shit is gross. It honestly just sounds like Sage/her friends are all up in the board.
It doesn't sound like "girls being catty" because the only one who has sounded catty at all was Sage… and continues to sound catty.
This is stupid as fuck since this board just argues in circles now when it never did before.
"kill yourself" isn't a death threat. There were no death threats made, if that was actually an anon she got.
Weird she hasn't gotten anymore, even though she still left anon on.
You realize that she sent those to herself right? She used this to make people sympathetic towards her by closing her twitch down. It's not like her boyfriend isn't super duper close to the people of twitch or anything.
We never had evidence that Sage replied with "get off anon pussy". Why didn't that anon go off and take a picture when they saw it? Because it never happened. She's just here to start trouble and make us fight among one another.
You don't have to choose sides.
I just want to honestly discuss these things without someone jumping at someone's throats and changing topics. Please, please for the love of god don't lolxdrandom here.
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Literal proof. Check her steam via websearch and see when she was last on when she posted that other thing.
Detective, how did you know he was the murderer?!
..heh kid, dusts fedora
. It was a simple matter of finding out that she was awake roughly the same time the murder took place. Got em'.
But sir, she was also offline while more murders took place!
..heh lights a cigar
kid, sh..shut up.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Honestly, I think that says a ton. I have a hard time believing that Snake would be friends with Angel, but not Sage, if nothing happened and Sage was innocent. Especially after what he wrote when Ziegs left.
And it says a lot that he's not friends with Cheyenne as well.
I definitely think they learned to hide it better lol. The thing is though, their way of dealing with things is to make Angel leave and have some way of making her not say anything.>>225011
Yeah, I don't think Snake is okay in any way with what's going on, but he doesn't want to start a fight. Honestly, it would be better to talk things out but I don't think the bullying party would be willing to listen, no matter who it is.
That's why I mentioned that the bullying party wouldn't be willing to listen. People like that never think they're in the wrong.>>225023
Not really much of anything that I think anyone here has mentioned.
I don't think Angel or Mash has actually insulted anyone. Angel said that a 'horrible person did horrible things' that she couldn't talk about to protect people she cared about, Mash told her she was strong and has had to put up with so much and that things will get better, then Sage called them shitters on the internet.
Honestly, it just looks like Angel and Mash have had to deal with a lot and most of what is on here is Sage trying to divert attention or make herself not look as bad, but it just makes her look worse.
I don't think it's very insulting, what Angel said, if she was bullied.