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Over-The-Top Spoonies/Munchausen By Internet Attention Whores General #4
Previous Thread: >>>/snow/237479
Discuss people who feign or exaggerate chronic illnesses and medical crises for attention and asspats online. Previous topic focused primarily on Instagram accounts, but posts from blogs and other social media sites are admissible.
Some of the more notable cows from the previous threads:
LifeUndiagnosedd, aka Hypermobilegeek on IG (and a shit ton more accounts). Robyn Brown is the milkiest munchiechan we've ever seen ("Kadeelyn on steroids" as another anon put it) and has her own threads now (original: >>197138
MyLifeStruggles on IG
JourneyToEmma on IG
Jonzie08 on IG
What Is A "Spoonie"?
People who identify as 'Spoonies' are referencing 'The Spoon Theory,' written by a woman with lupus to explain the chronic illness experience to a healthy friend who asked her what it really feels like to live with her medical problems.https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/
The 'Spoonie' Community is, in general, a legitimate supportive network for people dealing with chronic illness. In recent years, however, it has become polluted with SJW types and has attracted a new breed of attention-seeking catfish: people who lie about, fake having, and/or exaggerate existing medical problems and crises for no benefit other than to garner attention.
What Is Munchausen By Internet (MBI)?
From Dr. Marc Feldman, an expert in factitious disorders including Munchausen Syndrome, first described Munchausen By Internet in 2000:
"…the advent of online support groups, combined with access to vast stores of medical information, enabled individuals seeking to gain sympathy by relating a series of harrowing medical or psychological problems that defy comprehension to misuse the groups. Communication forums specializing in medical or psychological recovery were established to give lay users support in navigating often confusing and frustrating medical processes and bureaucracy. Communities often formed on those forums, with the goal of sharing information to help other members. Medical websites also became common, giving lay users access to literature in a way that was accessible to those without specific medical training. As Internet communication grew in popularity, users began to forgo the doctors and hospitals often consulted for medical advice. Frequenting virtual communities that have experience with a medical problem, Feldman notes, is easier than going through the physical pain or illness that would be necessary before visiting a doctor to get the attention sought. By pretending to be gravely ill, Internet users can gain sympathy from a group whose sole reason for existence is support. Health care professionals, with their limited time, greater medical knowledge, and tendency to be more skeptical in their diagnoses, may be less likely to provide that support."
LINKS to articles and info on MBI:https://www.munchausen.com
(Dr. Feldman's website)https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-lying-disease/Content?oid=15337239https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/munchausen-by-internet-what-drives-people-to-fake-an-illness/7631990https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/29/jules-gibson-munchausen-by-internet-sickness-bloggers-fake-it-whole-pantryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_by_Internet#Characteristics
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Since we were on the topic of Eli in the previous thread…
The time this is posted is pretty suspect, considering the timing of whoever was spamming the end of the old thread. Seems likely it was Eli trying to cover his own tracks again.
>Nothing exciting going on so haven't had much to post
No, nothing aside from you getting charged by the police. But I guess that's not "exciting", is it?
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Was saving this milky one for the new thread. Meet TriforceofChronicPain (another Nicole). This one claims to have 3 kinds of EDS at once! I didn't even know that was possible… as well as obligatory GoFundMe for unspecified bills and expenses (bet that tattoo wasn't cheap, mind)
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Body doing a weird thing? Best go to the ER!
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Sure, blame illness for your ugly nose if it makes you feel better…
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And of course, she's obsessed with taking her blood pressure. 122/73 is fine!
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I looked at this for ages trying to work out where the anomaly was, before realising she's probably reading the Systolic BP as her heart rate…
Someone found a (Spanish or Italian) YouTube news clip about Eli Stewart, under it a great big defensive comment from (obviously) Eli himself with yet another version of events, this time saying he did have cancer and ALL his other illnesses. Saying he was cleared of all charges etc.
Then "someone" spammed the thread about 100 times or more in a row with just a "." until it locked due to over limit. Shame for him they don't vanish when they are locked. We just need more to load up on here about him now.
off topic - that dog is gorgeous, I hate his gross looking hand with it in a headlock.
EDS doesn't even have numbers anymore. Both type 1 and 2 are cEDS and you can't have hEDS AND cEDS since it's an diagnosis of exclusion.
So she has just cEDS. Kek.
122/73 is a little high for a younger person at rest but it's not like "emergency intervention" high. Certainly not nearly high enough to be worried.>>345109
But if you supposedly can't walk 10 steps without your bp shooting up like this, you have a problem. Lol.
Mine does that without medication…but I have hypertensive POTS. And I take my medication.
Hence why I'm so enraged at this account.
There is no such thing as 10/10 chronic pain (medfag/chronicpainfag here). Managed chronic pain can't be 10/10, you'd be constantly losing consciousness from it. There is such a thing as breakthrough pain but anyone whose condition has breakthrough phenomena (I don't know enough about EDS pain management to know whether it does or doesn't, but as far as I'm aware, breakthrough pain is typical only for malignancies) has a breakthrough pain plan with PRN pain meds that are designed to act fast and hit the spot (I have fentanyl lollipops that are just wonderful! Of course, I'm no use for a few hours afterwards but at least I'm not passing out from the pain).
10/10 pain, in the rare instances that it happens, does not look like you're leaning back all comfy. It looks like clenched teeth, face distorted in a grimace of pain, tears streaming, flushed, sternocleidomastoid protruding and tense. Super bullshit, never mind the part about having multiple types of EDS.
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Okay. If you are going to try to score pity points with a medical graphic of your super awful "EDS complication" at least make sure it's the right disorder. TN is one of the most painful nerve-related disorders and is actually called "the suicide disease" because up to 25% of sufferers commit suicide because of the intractable pain. Legit has nothing to do with EDS or TMJ. Learn to fucking read. Sage for rage and being a medfag
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Let me put a possibly more sympathetic spin on this. Consider the attached image, from Nicole's groundme started by her mother Tina.
Mom is a self-described medical research junkie (meaning she reads shit about medicine, not an addiction to randomized controlled trials). Daughter is young and in an unstable place in life where we crave parental approval. So she does the one thing that's bound to both make mom happy and get her interested in her life again, over her brother: suddenly become a medical mystery. Now mom can live the kind of story that she normally only gets to read about: a honest to dogness medical mystery, a world famous doctor (a Dr Chopra, not sure if he is well known for EDS but I've never come across his name) playing the part of a real life Dr House, and a lot of expensive testing. All the while she can enjoy the spotlight as the heroic mother of the sick child. This is a wonderful Munchie twofer: MBI daughter enabled by mother with MSbP mother. How fabulous. I am already feeling sorry for the poor clinicians who will have to deal with them.
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Someone tipped her (JBN?), she's sooper sick, but can still rant on instagram
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Awww Flimsywrists disabled her account temporarily (or deleted all her pictures) guess her vewy best fwend Ali decided to inform her about the postings here which was such a nice thing to do considering Shelbie was just released from a psych ward …. I'm sure her "friends" just had her best interest at heart though… typical munchies…amazing
Just went through Nicole's bullshit with medfag eyes.
> claims she is on eight kinds of medications 'given to cancer sufferers', refers to them as medications to induce remission of IBS
No such medications exist.
> the only prescription medication she is taking, other than the eight unidentified cancer medications, is naltrexone
Nobody with long term chronic pain that reaches 10/10 with a weekly regularity is on just naltrexone, of all things…
> has a blood disorder out of the blue
Without mentioning what it actually is.
> shows her wrist, claiming it is dislocated when it is at an angle a dislocated wrist could not be bent into
I am trying to figure out if she's scamming her mother or if she's aware and joining in, but either way, they're reprehensible.
Nicole, there's nothing wrong with you. You're a young lady with depression and a mom who wants to be a character on House MD. No amount of expensive testing will change that, though I noticed the HMSA poster explaining how EDS injuries are super invisible lol.
She's on TPN. I hate to say this but the most plausible explanation is that she is using her line to suck out blood. TPN means she has a Hickman line or a port (probably a Hickman line). The Hickman is a large diameter line that goes straight to the superior vena cava, right next to the heart, so it's relatively easy to suck out enough blood to drop Hgb to 8.
I had a Hickman line for two years and when my blood counts first crashed due to what we later learned was aplastic anemia, doctors insisted on monitoring me closely, despite the fact that I was a medfag myself, because they had a patient a few months earlier who was literally sucking all the blood she could out of her central line. This is the sort of shit why Munchie bullshit like what she is pulling is so dangerous.
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I wonder if her illnesses will start getting better now that she seems to be dating someone…she definitely isn't posting everyday as she used to…also what is with all her flipping hashtags? Hashtag weight loss journey? Dietician?
Wait… she's on a $1000-a-week treatment to help her gain and maintain weight, but brags about a weight loss journey? Fucking hell.
Sage because angry medfag is angry.
It's not THAT uncommon. Years later when I went into gastroenterology, I saw a bunch of spoonies do it. We encountered this in a young female a few months ago. She had bone marrow biopsies and scans and genetics and a near infinite array of tests and nothing yielded. She lost blood almost as fast as we transfused it. Heaven knows how she managed to hide it when she was under 1:1 observation, as is now common for central line patients who present with unexplained anaemia and have a medical background (thanks Munchies!), but she was supposed to be transferred to a hematology specialist unit later that week. One day, a nurse accidentally tripped on her handbag, and its contents spilled out. She had all manners of syringes and heparin and stuff.
Ain't it great to be in a job where you're trying to help people, some of whom are actively trying to deceive you?
Sage for war story.
Oh, she's one of my faves. Especially as once her blood disorder got her nowhere (she is getting transfusions all the time but no further treatment attention, and they are trying to phase her off those), she was suddenly diagnosed with MS. And now it's all about that and not about the mysterious blood disorder that once ran her life maybe she realized she's starting to have more and more severe transfusion reactions, which is why she ended up on palliative care? How curious.
(Yes, radiologically definite MS can be faked. No, this isn't a Munchie advice page.)
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She could be genuine but (as an RNfag) I have questions at times (and so do her Dr's obviously however she cries neglect when that occurs, like now they are talking about a hysterectomy since her uterus may be responsible for the blood issues and MS after one head MRI and none of the above has been questioned before?)sage for bloggishness
TN sufferer here. There is no proof that the 25% is true and that's why most people tend to ignore the number. There are plenty of posts out there that explain why the number can't be true.
And it's kinda common to come across TMJ ppl in the support groups who try to explain that they also have TN, but they only need Advil for the pain.
People like her make me furoius. It's not that hard to use the right picture for a post on Instagram
i tried to cover what canada's healthcare covers but did a shit job and accidentally deleted. thankfully, there are websites for anyone curious https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Canada
and yes most of their provinces cover most meds
Still too much blogging in here. It's one thing to confirm/deny certain health things for other users. Posts like this >>345153>>345143
are mostly blog though.
The obnoxious spammer from the last thread is permabanned, sorry for the delay.
You definitely can - it's seen quite often in psychiatric inpatients with severe self harm issues. Known a few to have to get transfusions due to their self harm.
However, blood letting would be a more common cause, especially if she has a line. Then it'd just be too easy.
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Jessi fucking Slaughter aka Rose Leonhardt something or other, ladies and gentlemen and fakebois.
She's a vintage Munchie. I hate few things more than people pretending to be oh so sick and disabled so that they can rag on the lack of accessibility… while right then they're using services for disabled people and blocking them.
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Wth would she post about her being "sore and bruised" form "intimate time" with the boyfriend (who she's supposedly been with for 15 years yet not one picture hmmm)
Why do people keep pointing out that he's mentally ill? So are half of the people you post about, why is Eli any different?
Unless, and this is most likely, you are Eli or one of his friends trying to WK
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Don't even know the kids last name, only know about him from what's been posted on the threads, just didn't want to see the thread closed out like the last one and didn't see the permabanned post from farmhand…
sage; apology for not giving 2 fucs about him(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
His last name has been posted on the threads before so there's that.
Also that isn't how you sage, and considering the only reason the last one locked was because it reached post limit because of spamming, they'd have a lot of spamming to do here to hit post limit, if they'd tried it again here they would've been caught well before hitting anywhere near post limit…
Oh yes you did. That's her euphemism for having tests run on her imaginary condition, because she's convinced she's so rare and speshul that doctors should be grateful they'll get to lay eyes on her.
The delusion, it is strong in this one.
There are a few tests people with EDS can have. Echocardiograms, tilt table test (for POTS comorbidity), bone density scan…
None of these are as scientifically groundbreaking as she's making them out to be. She doesn't have 3 kinds of EDS at once. That's ridiculous. But, because few people have heard of it, it's easy to pretend.
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Guess Kelly got a hold of her chart and was hurt by what she read … people tried to assure her he was "wording it that way" to try and get her seen more quickly ….
omg what an idiot
blood is a precious resource! it should NOT be wasted!
if I suspected a patient is making himself need blood on purpose I'd think the same shit…
how selfish can a person be?
OMG ALL DUH BLOOD 4 ME PLEASE NONE FOR ANYONE ELSE, THE DOCTOR IS SO CRUEL
sage bc rant
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Oh fucking boy, here we go!
May I present Morgan McCastor, of the Syracuse, NY area. She apparently suffers from 15 different illnesses, and is going to be features in a documentary as she begins palliative care! She's even covered in loads of local news sources.http://www.twcnews.com/nys/central-ny/news/2017/06/30/cny-woman-to-be-featured-in-upcoming-documentary.html
Sadly, Morgan is full of shit, a fact that the hospice workers have caught onto quite quickly. Just about all of her sooper serious 15 illnesses were pegged as behavioral health issues, prompting a full on meltdown from Morgan.
Of course, Morgan chooses to interpret this as being SO SO SICK that even HOSPICE can't save her!
(The fact is she's a malingering munchie who's definitely a drug-seeker. The Syracuse area is fucking sky-high with the opiate epidemic, to the point where the news channels usually every other week do a news segment on the opiate crisis.)
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JBN's latest read!
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And the post that went with JBN's picture of the book
Oh you definitely can, if you were to target a small vessel it wouldn't be hard at all >>345166
Safe for blog- Also a HB of 80 isn't even that bad. I had accident no so long ago and they wouldn't transfuse at 73 but did when it dropped further to 62.
I don't understand why that post would be considered milky. She's admitting her illnesses are psychosomatic. She's trying to accept the diagnosis and understand it rather than insist on more invasive tests as a lot of the other spoonies in these threads would.
Surely it's good that she's trying to learn about her diagnosis and is actively looking for things which will help her. By reading about her condition, she might find something which helps her. Then she would spend less time in the doctor's office or emergency room.
Admittedly, the book gets very mixed reviews from patients with functional disorders, but if it helps Nicole recover then that's hardly a bad thing.
I just started looking at her account and find it really strange that she posts the sash in almost all of her pictures. Did a little digging and found that she applied for the pageant online and was accepted as a finalist and given a sash. I don't know Scotland so no idea how many people applied but if its a smaller area I would assume there are not a ton of adults looking to apply to online pageants. I am sure she submitted her sob story and they pageant picked her up if anything for a PR move (as she seemed to do several "news" stories about it). The sash she now parades around just says she was a finalist, which in this case pretty much just means she participated. The other pageant sash she was parading around was for some sort of online charity pageant in which she even said the titles are given on a "first come" basis. So she is parading herself around as an inspirational beauty queen when really she is mainly just sitting behind a computer screen (and yes it did at least once result in actually participating in a real event) and applying for things where she can tell her story so people can say she is so brave for pursuing these types of things.
I just don't understand why an adult is basically parading their participation ribbon around on so many photos that aren't related.
1. Self-promotion ("look I'm a beauty queen!")
2. She can be seen to be using the platform afforded to her to "raise awareness" of whatever issue she wants to talk about. Even though she's only posting to her followers. She'd have exactly the same platform if she was just a regular Instagram user though. Starting pageants so late does seem odd, i guess she wanted some validation.
That's not uncommon though, I mean receiving any diagnosis takes time, and I can imagine for someone to be told that their physical issues are psychological in nature, that's extra hard to get around.
I think Nicole sometimes does give good milk, but people are just grasping at straws when there's nothing. She's trying to accept her diagnosis, what's interesting here?
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Does anyone follow jamies.journey? Late stage neuroborelliosis … posts a lot of videos of her "seizures" and tremors … not sure what to think… has a gofokme to raise funds for the "only doctor in Australia who still treats with picc lines" or something like that … on lots of medications and oxygen has become a paraplegic and seems to cry neglect a lot and that an inpatient rehab she was in didn't understand her condition…and of course today's post, she's incredibly dizzy and confused but first let me take a selfie and post online…
It's easy to skip round being permabanned.
You just need to be able to hide your IP address.
Any person who's been on this site long enough knows this already.
'I'm so sick, I can't do anything myself, but here's all my complaints and some selfies.'
Somehow all these "super sick" spoonies manage to have thriving social media accounts. Would definitely not be my top priority, but then I'm not an attention whore!
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Look who's not private any more, and who's admitting to a "past" eating disorder. Guess she wasn't getting enough attention.
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Step one: Feel your Broke ass
Step two: Look for ways you can make money on the internet.
Step three: Make shit shirts on the internet. With pictures that most likely aren't your own.
Step Four: Promote your great idea on the internet. And act as if your not trying to self promote them but remember to show your username so people can buy them 'if they want'.
Step five: Your still a broke ass.
Step Six: Rinse.
It's common knowledge.
They may have googled it before, the people being WK might actually be people we think are banned and it could be the same person posting.
I'm just saying that I think everyone knows how to hide IP addresses. There's literally no point in banning them. If people just used their brains and ignored whiteknights and didn't react to them then they'd give up. The want a reaction and people give if to them. Pretend they didn't post and their posts are all invisible. My advice is just don't rise to the munchies or white knights tha post. Make them feel ignored
I originally thought that maybe she did have a blood problem at first but now I totally believe the same thing as you.>>346594
>>346574> I'm just saying that I think everyone knows how to hide IP addresses.
No… No they don't. Do you get to interact with normalfags much? Open cmd in front of one of them and see how they react, they will ask if you're hacking their computer. The average person is so, so computer illiterate.
>The want a reaction and people give if to them.
If they were trolls maybe, but the genuine whiteknights we get in this thread are here to be holier than thou and stick up for their friends. Whether or not they get a reaction they'll carry on, because they're the type of people who pride themselves on being loyal no matter what and acting like an attack dog for their friends.
It definitely seems weird and I don't understand how she can just "design" shirts on a website and then somehow get profit for it? Like would she not have to pay for the shirts first?
But besides that I don't really understand what you're bitching about
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So look what account popped up in my "posts you might like" page on Instagram. It's another Nicole page!! "To show the real life people behind Chronic Illness" … by posting pictures of herself! Quelle surprise!
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Honestly this sickens me a bit. She's using a fire to self-promote! Wearing green doesn't do a fucking thing, Nicole. Try giving the fund a bit of cash or at least something that doesn't make all it about YOU!
I saw one
person list under 6 illnesses! Wooooah!
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Sorry, forgot to add the image.
It's complicated. Research is showing again and again that it's not always psychologically triggered
. One small study showed that a minority of patients have an emotional trigger
,with others having pain, operations or medications causing the onset of symptoms. An emotional trigger
is no longer part of the diagnostic criteria.
People with an emotional trigger
are usually told it's conversion disorder.
Sage for medfagging.
DAE have serious questions about this person being a doctor? Especially if it's the same anon as the one who has a rare blood cancer but still attended medical school.
I doubt anyone here is a doctor, it's fucking easy to look stuff up and pretend to be knowledgeable. Prove it or gtfo.
My own FND is caused by trauma/PTSD. I've never been told it's "conversion disorder".
If a case of FND is caused by medications, then it's surely iatrogenic (caused by medicine!) in origin and not FND at all…
I doubt it too, considering the definition of FND is that it is where there is not a structural or visible abnormality explaining the symptoms - meaning it'd be impossible to be triggered
by an operation or medication, since that would point that it wasn't actually functional in nature.
>Functional Neurological Disorder is due to a problem with the functioning of the nervous system in a structurally normal brain. Functional symptoms are thought to derive from the brain’s inability to send and receive signals correctly, as the result of physical and/or psychological risk factors.
On that site, you can see the various causes of fnd, including vaccines, and medication.
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Since I'm conscious(and in hospital) let me take a selfie
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I had the beginning of septic shock and holy shit… you don't feel like you're dying, you KNOW you're dying.
Also, what is with her face? Skin picking?
I am so glad someone else thought this too. I felt like an asshole for thinking "Nope" to several posts in here claiming to be from medical professionals. From different writing styles and number of posts, especially the recent influx of at least 2 additional "docs", is suspect. Lolcowchan is unlikely to attract a gaggle of physicians, let's be real.
It is worth noting that a hallmark symptom of MBI is to claim to be a medical professional in the absence of actual medical training, or to work in the medical field and claim some higher position than they hold in actuality. Of course it's likely that we would eventually attract some of them here.
-OP MBI research fag.
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JBN defending her crown
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Ali had a tantrum and deleted her "spoonie" account and Shelbie after being released from her hospital stay realized people are still calling out her bs deleted her account as well. . . However spies on her other IG acct have informed that Ali is still fundraising for a service animal through her red bubble and gofuxkme…
Oh my god, she takes things way too harshly. How does she expect to be a public figure when she can't take such tame criticism as "overweight" or "not pretty"? >look like someone on the spectrum when i smile
Someone should call her out for being ableist.
To be fair, most people with self-respect–even public figures–aren't always going to welcome insults even if there's nothing they can do to prevent them from being said. It's called being human. >http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kelly-clarkson-shuts-down-body-shamer-with-four-simple-words-w491023
Not suggesting that they're comparable insofar as looks and talent, but clearly being a public figure isn't going to stop someone from defending their identity on occasion.
>>348037>You have to "confirm" your place by paying 250 - so she essentially paid a bunch of money to get a sash that she can parade around.
Trust me when I say all pageants are this way.
No poor girls win them because they can't pay to place.
Yeah, she's definitely full of it. I recently had sepsis, and even after getting over the infection, I was on antibiotics for 6 weeks. And I had further blood cultures taken at the end of the antibiotics to make sure the infection was completely gone. No doctor in their right mind would stop treatment without checking that everything was completely gone. Plus, sepsis happens really quick (like within hours), so you're not going to be walking around with any without knowing it.
Sage for blogging
Actually it's a thing someone started where if they put the red button in their profile, then it means that anybody can come and talk to them about any issues. Basically it's saying their profile and they are a ~safe space~ for people easily triggered
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Pagent "appearances" too ill to leave house so I will write on a bit of lined paper
A: They're messing with other people's lives by using up resources and personnel to roleplay as cripples for attention.
B: They post everything publicly, they have it coming
C: It's funny
D: I am the law.
By pointing out mere observations (of contradiction a majority of the time)? Or is it when straight out lies are caught? Or how about when these spoonie "heroes" are ten times worse with gossiping about each other and having a hashtag competition as to who can be the sickest? If this site hurts your feelings snowflake, I'd recommend getting off the internet…
Funny thing, a lot of people who participate on this thread are suffering from a lot of the same issues that you and your wee little friends ail from, the difference is we do not find it a need to compete amongst each other as to who is suffering more or put it on blast across the web …. here's a hint for you because you see awfully young, stay in school, interact with people in real life ( like actual human beings) and life is hard, you don't always get a trophy for participating, stop crying about it
Sage: pissed off
>>348251>The people you are abusing here actually do have legitimate illnesses
Maybe mental illness, but that's it.
>How will you feel if someone actually takes their own life because your bullying?
Amused that they would be so anguished over a roleplay being called out that they would end their life over it.
>What a pathetic life you all lead if this is what you do for entertainment.
>Grow up and find a new hobby
But I am grown up.
>you are causing major harm to theirs.
They shouldn't post their roleplaying publicly if they don't want to face the consequences of doing so.
Sage for unhealing wounds that crawl in my skin.
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And I forgot my picture.
> The people you are abusing here actually do have legitimate illnesses and some are actually severely depressed and suicidal because of this site
Have much experience with Munchies? If you had, you knew that one of the cards they love to play most is the 'I'm suicidal! Do what I say or I'll kill myself!' one.
(Totally off topic: I'm blood cancer medfag anon. Haven't been around for a while and I haven't written most of the medfaggery here. For context - I'm a US trained SpR (speciality registrar, the equivalent of a US resident in a speciality program) at a midsize hospital in the Midlands. If anything I said was full of shit, that's quite possible - I'm not in psychiatry so my knowledge there is patchy at best and I'm treating this as a learning opportunity. I do encourage skepticism about what anyone on the internet says about medicine, though, myself included. That said, I found lolcow.farm by looking at the tablet of one of the young SHOs… so I wouldn't be surprised if there were other real medfags raging here. Sage for this.)
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Fanatically obsessed with Gray's Anatomy (the shitty medical drama, not the book) and has a lot of health issues that make her feel like she is straight from an episode. Not dodgy at all, no sir.
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Spoonie Munchie perfect storm: beckiejbrown aka beckie0 (insane trichotillomania cow) x kellerina (insane blood disorder and MS faking cow). Imagine what happens when they join forces.
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MLS and JBN both posting about their anniversaries with their imaginary boyfriends. Why do these bitches always gotta copy each other?
Boyfriend of 14 years? ROTFL.
Honey, if he didn't marry you after 14 years, he's not going to. I can well imagine he's desperately trying to escape but she has a crisis every time he's about to break up with her, making him scared she'll die if he left.
What a fucking psycho.
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Nicole needing validation - spawn of spoonie who love her and think she is an inspiration. An inspiring actor maybe
It was 14 years in that picture and 15 years in the picture she posted a couple of days before that (where she says she is wearing a ring from a candle/bath bomb) as a placeholder until he gets her a new real ring.
I also find it interesting that when she was talking about getting to her week of doctors appointments (which she has been surprisingly quiet about) she gave reasons why her brother could/couldn't take her but never mentioned the boyfriend - a relationship that long you think the boyfriend would want to be involved.
That being said - I do think she is making a small effort to try to be less munchie on her IG - but does seem to post things to try to arouse doubts/suspicions hoping someone will take the bait.
A: I'm a total dickhead
B: If you threaten suicide to get your way, you deserve to succeed.
We're laughing at them for what they choose to post online. That's hardly as dramatic or attention seeking as running to the hospital and wasting resources because you want attention.
Also we do have the right to belittle them.
"I'm a total dickhead"
I'm thinking more along the lines of total CUNT but sure, go with dickhead.
Did you just assume my gender?>>348575
Are you not American?
Here in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, we have that right. It's ace biscuits, not gonna lie.
Why are Americans always so ignorant? Not everything is about YOU. As far as I can see this site is nothing but a dumping ground for whiny little bitches who don't get enough attention.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Actually, it does. Let's get this straight, just because it's got an ICD-10 code doesn't mean it's an 'illness' and so all is forgiven. Nope. Munchies aren't victims who can't help themselves, they're sociopathic emotional vampires sucking people who care for them bone dry. Talk for ten minutes to the husband of a Munchie who convinced him for a decade that she was seriously ill. Go on, I dare you. Ten years of lies and deceit so she can get away with being an annoying asshole. Ten years of pain for him, sleepless nights, emotional exhaustion and an inability to every really trust anyone.
TL;DR: Munchies do not deserve anything but scorn and derision.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Planning out a murder is premeditaiton, which is
a crime. But she shouldn't have gotten 10 years for it, maybe 2-3 under the circumstances considering she also didn't technically murder anyone, the boyfriend did it all.
In all the interviews I've read Gypsy maintains she's solely responsible, although yeah I think her bf was the one to actually physically murder the mother.
She talked about how initially it was just a fantasy between her and her bf, which considering how she was lied to about her age and otherwise developmentally stunted, seems like a semi-normal way for a teenager to react to their restrictive upbringing. But then it escalated into real planning somewhere along the way and then a real crime.
It's sad that Deedee can never be made to answer for what she did to Gypsy, we'll never get an explanation or justification from her.
In sepsis I see WHITE lips. Ghostly white and altered mental status, not people who are taking selfies for attention. Pathetic.>>348132
As for you, I guess you've never known someone who has lost four limbs to sepsis. I don't mean to sound edgy, but I hope this does come to smack a few people back in the face IRL.
They need serious psychiatric help to prevent them from taking beds that could be better used on the genuinely ill.
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Well, you're wrong. It's really common for this to happen to kids with bacterial meningitis which has progressed to septicaemia.
You can google these things instead of just making a guess. Images has at least six different people with quadruple amputations just at a glance
"With sepsis, the blood’s clotting mechanism can go into overdrive and cause blockages inside the blood vessels. When blood can’t pass through the blood vessels, oxygen and vital nutrients can’t get to the body’s tissues. If the tissues can’t get the nourishment they need, the tissues die.
When too much of the tissue dies, it has to be removed. Sometimes, doctors can remove just a small part, but other times, more drastic measures must be taken and parts of the body must be amputated.
For some people, amputations are limited to their fingers or toes, or parts of them. Others, however, may need amputations of their hands, feet, even arms or legs, all in an effort to save their life."
It's a similar to celiac disease these days…eveeyone claims to be gluten free but very few have actually had the positive biopsies and diagnosis.
A lot of people claim GP but don't really have it. I've noticed a large trend of anorexia sufferers saying they have GP..when in reality most have not had the formal testing and just go by the symptoms they experience during recovery (which can mimic GP symptoms) now if one lingers on recovery for a long time or go back and forth a lot the symptoms will be around longer. It is also known that a lot of sickly anorexic (any ed but specially anorexia) suffers can have the testing done and it will come back positive for GP. HOWEVER it's not an issue at that point and unless it is significant (usually indicating it was pre-existing) it's only considered a delay that will go away with proper nutrition and care. Something during recovery they will put these people on medications to help, but it's taken away once your body has healed. A delay is different than Gp. GP is not reverseable.
It can also be common for people to be given a NJ in treatment with lowered oral meals until thwir body starts healing and they slowly ween off tube feeds to oral to help prevent mental and physical set backs.
A G/J Tube a G tube a J tube are not permanent. They can be easily removed. It's just that they last longer than any Nasal tube..the stomas around the stomach tunes close up really quickly once pulled.
Typically here(us) they will start with an NJ tube for GP. As a J or G tube is avoided as much as possible. A lot of GP sufferers actually prefer a NJ tube..to each their own..way less scaring that way. Lol.
But in some cases a person just cannot have an NJ. Which leaves no other option but a J.
Vomiting can be one of those reasons. It's easy to throw up a nasal tube and the more you have to have it placed the more damage it can cause your nasal area sinus throats, more danger is involved the more it happens..its weighted and that can sometimes poke the wrong area and cause some issues. So if someone like MLS insists all she does is throw up and the dr gives her her precious tube I wouldn't be that surprised if he gives her a J tube to prevent complications with her "constant vomiting"
I'll be ashamed if he gives her a G tube also or even a GJ (these can flip causing the same issues as a NJ) with her anorexia and purging behaviors.
Sometimes they will give you an NJ inpatient under obs. To see how you handle the feed and if you throw up etc before they will consider a J tube.
For the surgical j tube it's a little similar it depends on what type and why you get it.
It is was more common for NG and G tubes than NJ and J tubes outside of the motility issue bubble because they are much safer, easier and less invasive.
All tubes arent really as common as it appears on social media in adults.
Sorry for the length but I hope that helps answer some of your tube questions.
Being bored as shit, I did a cross reference on our medical statistics portal that summarizes a lot of data from various states for breakdowns of all 0D6* interventions (G-tubes and GJs, whether percutaneously or endoscopically inserted) against its indication, by five year segments. It's a fucking shocker. Just ten years ago, virtually all feeding tubes for adults were for people with CF, cancer, post-transplantees, a small number of people with GI issues who benefited from gastric percutaneous decompression and drainage and people with severe disabilities of the neurological kind that resulted in dysphagia or aspiration. In the last five years, almost half of the tubes inserted were for K31.84 (gastroparesis), with an average patient age of 24 (odd, I would have thought that because at least some of these cases would be diabetic GP and all type diabetes has an onset peak in the teens and another onset peak in the 40s onwards, it would be much lower or much higher!). Fuck, it's become a god damned style accessory. Worst of all, if tubes are demanded because the patients feel at risk of malnutrition and death, where are the deaths from gastroparesis or related functional causes? I don't see them. It's as if an epidemic of gastroparesis suddenly arose in the last five to ten years.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with spoonie instagram.
Sage for medstatfagging.
IANACardiologist, but I can't conceivably believe that after all that your circulatory system is well enough to do sports. Not the least given the cost of epinephrine on your microvasculature. It's not uncommon in A&E (that's ER for Americans) to see people who for whatever reason jammed more than 3-4 epipens, all at once or in intervals, in their thighs and ended up with the tips of their fingers starting to necrose. I have serious doubts anyone with this level of issues would even be allowed by any sports organizing body to compete, especially given that there is a potential link between MCAS and exercise induced anaphylaxis (in fact some argue EIA is a subclass of MCAS).
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Look at the look on this girl's face …
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"I miss being on stage"
Bitch you miss the attention
It's an NG she has a which she inserts herself often daily following 'vomiting it up'
So no need other than sympathy to wear it
Doesn't she have gastroparesis? If so, why the fuck have an NG? It's fucking useless as you cannot really vent through an NG (the gauge of an NG is much smaller than of a PEG/RIG), you absolutely positively cannot drain through an NG save by using suction and even then it's usually not working, and of course if what you're eating comes back up owing to GP, you'll vomit up whatever is put down an NG. Never mind the risks and side effects of an untrained moron self inserting an NG. It's easy for trained people to fuck it up and shove it the lungs and fail to detect it until it's too late. It also scars the nose, limiting future NG access when she might actually need it. Fucksakes.
TL;DR: she's a moron.
Thanks for the reply. I still don't get why these bitches need tubes if they're well enough to be trialling salads and sandwiches. I guess if you doc shop enough, you'll get what you want and they want tubes, not to feel better,
GJ tubes may not be permanent, as such, but it's still surgery, albeit minor surgery. It's not without risks, especially as these snowflakes are so sick and fragile as they state they say they are.
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"I'm going to prance around with a piece of medical equipment I don't need to make a point and elicit sympathy".
Fuck me dead.
The pic she posted of her "boyfriend" 2 days ago is the exact same as she used on both
25th May, and 22nd of January - couldn't be bothered looking any further. It really must be long distance if the photos are identical
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old pics but I'm sure she's still up to her old tricks. On the left we have andie, and on the right is the person who is actually ill that she stole the picture from. Anyone following her have any recent updates? I can't even begin to explain her history of 'illnesses'. As soon as she's caught faking she usually makes new accounts with new illnesses or at least goes on a blocking spree and says her account was hacked. Sometimes she even makes fake accounts for her family members to post about how sick andie is and that she needs cards or online fundraisers.
Goddammit. She stole the photo of a young mother suffering from Stage III lung cancer. That's just beyond nasty.
What an asshole.
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she steals so many pics, or uses anything she finds in images…sometimes with watermarks right over the picture lol. Then accuses other people of taking her pics. She posted a lot of selfies tho (like this one). When claiming she had cancer she eventually shaved her head, but just the front for selfies and hid the rest in a hat. When I questioned things that didn't make sense she blocked me :(
This often seems true with the latest trends but at the same time any doctor in their right mind wouldn't do any of that unless absolutely medically necessary..G tubes are really pretty simple and no big deal..they can place a G tube (PEG) during an upper GI..its outpatient and relatively complication free (there are exceptions to everything though) you can change your peg at home and the stoma care is pretty simple and easy.(again, there is always exceptions specially when you have munchies fucking with their shit)
The bigger changes like a J tube, central line and stomas are not handed out like pegs due to how incredibly dangerous they can be..a dr cannot legally give a patient that unless it's needed and often times, at least here, the drs opt for second or third opinions before going down that road if anything seems iffy..huge liability..unless it is an emergency of course and unless it's clear the patient needs it. But they don't hand these out like NG/NJ/G/GJ tubes.
However it's not uncommon to see them have these devices while in the hospital temporarily and that's when these munchies milk it like crazy.
There are a couple of munchies on IG that I feel like fake having a device by ordering it online and finding a way to attach it to themselves for attention..much like buying an NG online and placing it themselves.
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This is a bit older post of hers but
Your comment screamed this picture to me so I had to post it in reply. I do not know if this is an NG or NJ, but I believe she was actually home or in a PHP program when she had this tube.
She has not come forward with any "I'm dying from GP that my severe anorexia caused" bs that I am aware of…which is so strange for this munchie..maybe her appeal is keeping her super severe medical complications from anorexia a "secret" (non-existent) for more attention..like her last gofundme where her friend claimed she was dying and soon needed dialysis yet her insurance wouldn't cover her "legit" medical needs and she somehow magically cured of it all once taking like 3000$ from people and being served a reality check she wasn't going back to any precious treatment center and daddy wasn't forking over hundreds of thousands out of pocket again.
If you have gastroparesis that severely there is no way you should be "trialling" a salad.
(I have mild GP. I know what I shouldn't be eating.)
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Just going to leave this tid bit here
I reckon she's going to try and get diagnosed with EDS and mast cell Syndrome.
I'm surprised she hasn't jumped on the eds bandwagon yet..
Id love to have some sort of list on what she has truly been diagnosed with from her dr and what she lies about being diagnosed with online. And the real severity of her real illnesses, not her super the worst in the state bs..nor her lying lists she posts.
the picture is a screen shot of her failed youtube project and in this video a few seconds before the pause she says she suffers from "severe chronic anorexia purging subtype and a looottt of mental issues."
(It bothers me that she always refers to her ED as chronic) but the description is also a gold mine.
I don't understand why these munchies don't realize people will catch on to the lying when their bs doesn't add up.
Do they ever feel bad about hurting so many people and using precious resources millions dont have easy accsess to? They do enough research to be able to lie about illness online but that research should also show them how much people really suffer who have the illness they are faking..
It's got to be on the psychopathic spectrum to some degree..specially by proxy, yes?
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Sorry I couldn't get it to attach!
My guess is she is trying to find a way to say she is allergic to the medications being offered to her so that she can try to justify why she needs a tube at her upcoming appointment (and I am really surprised that she hasn't mentioned it at all).
That or she is trying to come up with a new fake diagnosis
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Side effects besides the possible GI upset from azithromycin are like beyond low in percentage … surprised she didn't read that while looking up the side effects …
She claims to have heart problems they can't figure out. She has had a lot of testing for that also but yet they don't know what is causing her heart problems….she threw a huge fit when they took her off her propanol..until they put her back on it to shut her up as she was whining nonstop about it and it's not going to hurt her anyway. Note her pcp put her back on it, not a cardio. She's had echoes, lots of ekgs, ultrasounds, 24hr and 48hr monitor and a 30 day event monitor tests yet they still can't figure out what is going on with her heart….her last appt went fine and her main comment was they still don't know and it hasn't gotten worse with a lingering feeling that upset her and upped her game.
Basically nothing is wrong. The most is side effects from her messing with it..probably meds and behind the scene type things. She's been on the heart issue since she went to treatment for the" most serious case of anorexia in the state"
You can't fake heart problems like some GI problems bby. Give it up and stop wasting Drs and their patients time resources and energy trying to fulfill your attention needs and go back to your psych team you claim to have and ask for the proper help before you endanger or kill someone else by using their needed resources please
Because famously all we do 24/7 is rank patients by severity. No, really. Even in conditions where status is not easily quantifiable, hospitals across the state spend all day discussing who the most severe case is. HIPAA clearly doesn't apply to that, because it's totally crucial to know who the most severe anorexic, gastroparetic etc. is in the state. They then get a gold star and a certificate signed by Hippocrates and Galen himself (and a lifetime pass to the psych ward).
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Has anyone stumbled across this one yet? I am cringing so hard.
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Who in their right mind wants disability to be the CORE of their existence?
Holy shit, I was in an ED treatment facility with this girl. Basically anything annoying you can imagine she has spammed onto Facebook, Instagram, and Snapchat. Everyone was so tired of her shit.
I never thought she was well-known enough to end up here though. It's a small world in the ED treatment community I suppose.
Are you still the Anon that was in treatment with Dani? (I hope you're doing ok now!)
Did anyone actually believe she was The most Ana Ever?
Nah just seen her around for years and years. Since dani isnt big on privacy she accepts any account that adds her and overshares everything ever.
When it was pointed out how stupid and potentially dangerous it is to tune yourself for no reason other than thinking it looks sweet, she pouted and cried and called all the medical facts bullying.
She's the kid who got too much attention for getting a cast and now tries to fall off the monkey bats so she gets another cast everyone has to sign. Or the one who was out for a week with flu and tells everyone it was pneumonia
Hi original anon here! I'm doing well thank you. :)
Her Facebook was the worst for me. It was a post nearly every day about some struggle that could have been made better if she didn't ignore the comments trying to help her and give her advice. One time a much older person was trying to offer some solidarity by saying what he had gone through, and she started talking over him and saying how she was practically dying.
I think she had several GoFundMe pages one of which was to get a service dog and another was to get a tattoo. I think there was a third where she wanted help raising money to color her hair again. It was terrible.https://www.instagram.com/endlessvoices/https://www.instagram.com/danilizm/>>349781
Anon, were you in treatment with her as well? You are right, one day she got upset at people calling her out for her before-and-after lowest weight and recovery photos saying how it was inappropriate to post them especially with people in recovery in her friends list and she called it harassment. She said she would stop posting on Facebook for "a long time" and I think posted again in a few hours complaining about some movie or book or how her hair color is fading.
The service dog idea (which included soliciting a donation from the Rotary Club) got dropped.
I have no idea why she thought she needed one.
Never in treatment with her, I just come across people like her everyday. (Mental health, home-based services for adults who require support managing their illnesses) lots of them are like dani, with suffering Olympics (a room full of borderlines for therapy is the biggest pissing contest you'll ever see) or insisting that they are far too unwell to live and need continued support and disability pensions.
The worst clients will be in and out of ER more than weekly. Once, a woman in residential decided that once the episode of Gilmore girls she was watching was over she was going to drive herself to the local er for psych triage. The only thing wrong was she was bored because it was the last episode of the season.
Dani fits all the usual hallmarks for malingerers and lazy opportunists who latch on to disability or mental illness as a lifelong excuse to be babied and provided for.
How often were you all help responsible for her feeling shitty in therapy? Bet you were 'bullies and singling her out' if you dared mention that she's being hugely inappropriate.
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But how many times has she complained her doctors don't want her on disability for severe chronic anorexia? And then her mini little freak outs come time to redo the paperwork and all that to try to stay on it.
Yet here they agree and she doesn't even know why.
So what's the truth?
I'm thinking more of a slowness disability maybe..but she wouldn't need to fake being sicker for that like she does
Either way at least where I am you can't get on disability or Medicare/Medicaid, SSI, etc without proof from your Drs that it's a necessity.
This is all true. To be honest, people like this are one of the main motivators for me to recover. Just being around people like Dani is draining, and you clearly see what you will become once you learn how to take advantage of your illnesses like her.
You are very well-spoken, anon.>>349794
She changes her story to fit whatever new thing she wants to get attention for. Sometimes within the same day.
Dani is very much a case of 'there but for the grace of literacy and good intervention go i' imo.
She's dumb as a box of rocks but she could still be doing so much better if she wasn't determined to cash in her soul for the pity that is (understandably) felt for those who are severely ill.
In defence of anon, sometimes you just need/want to talk about the hardships in your life. Sometimes you just need to vent, but I think they're saying their entire existence online doesn't revolve around their illness. Munchies claim they're so much more than that yet don't post anything
outside of it. Do they have any interests outside of being sick? We wouldn't know kek
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Can we move away from ana-chans and back to munchies? There's been an ana thread floating around, go find that.
On an actual munchie related note, Morgan McCastor has somehow recovered from the devastating blow of being denied hospice
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Guess who's at it again…lol
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Ali went of a deleting spree after her name appeared on here, because it was "damaging to her health" or whatever just like Shelbie did…or did she
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She looks just like someone on their death bed. Pic related, it's someone on their actual death bed.
When she ventured into munchie land she made this site pretending to be someone else posting but it was her.
"She has leukemia, a cancerous brain tumor, a rare autoimmune disease, and Bethlem myopathy, among other things."
Now she denies any of that happened or says it was a bully posting about her… eye roll
I'm really shocked. I was friends on FB with her and she posted a ton of overly personal things about abuse at home (will dig for screenshots) and then got into a group home. The first I heard of cancer was when she moved there.
The blog is odd, doesn't sound like her writing or words. She usually types in long run-on's.
I don't know what to believe about her 'muscle disease' it 'looks' valid with the walker and her gate etc. but obviously you never know.
"we call them swans" kek
Prove that you're a doctor and not a munchie faking it, please. As has been said in this thread many times, it's common for people with munchausen's to enjoy medical roles and to enact them, or to achieve a relatively unskilled role and then present themselves as more knowledgeable than they are. Multiple anons are doubtful that the "medfags" are really doctors at all. Sure you don't just enjoy feeling powerful compared to other posters… ??
It's true, though. https://www.undiagnosed.org.uk/
Can't speak for anon's medical credentials though.
Firstly, medfag =/= doctor. Secondly, there is more than one anon who works in the medical field who posts here. I've signed off as medfag on here before, I'm just a lab monkey and wouldn't dare posting anything that conclusively proves I'm in the field I'm in. I highly doubt any actual, patient facing medical professional is going to risk their entire career just to prove some people on a chanboard wrong.
Like, I get the scepticism but it's not that far-fetched to believe people from all walks of life post here. It's a chanboard tradition to be able to anonymously share the secrets of your job.
Yeah, I believe many of the acronyms and medfag details are true aka easy to google. But does anyone think the tragic blood cancer doctor who mysteriously also has time to post on the farms is a real person? fucking kek
saged because I'm embarrassed for those of you who fall for this shit
It's-a-me, blood cancer medfag. Not that I really care as to whether you think me or anyone else is genuine, definitely not enough to risk professional censure. I am a little puzzled as to how I became 'tragic' (got sick, was shit timing, got over it, life goes on), though. Also FYI: depending on speciality, there is a lot of downtime in medicine. It can get boring (though I'm pretty sure at least some of that is because the NHS is not profit driven and so things are a lot more leisurely than back home), so yeah, you'll find plenty of time to fuck about. I became interested in this thread because we see a lot of these people on a day to day basis and I think deep down every doctor, nurse and allied health professional is annoyed at their bullshit but it's almost a professional taboo to bring up how we feel about malingerers and Munchies. I don't know if the other medfags are genuine, but why should I care? I'm not asking them to operate on me, and as long as what they're saying makes sense, I don't care if they're a consultant neurosurgeon or a FY1 with a Walter Mitty complex.
(Also: SWANs is definitely legit, it is the more politically correct abbreviation for what the older consultants would have called FLK - funny looking kid)
Sage because holy fuck this was off topic!
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What's your specialty, blood cancer medfag?
My best friend from school became an ENT surgeon which is pretty damn fiddly.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
I regularly visit black holes. You could say I'm a… wait for it… gastronaut.
I'm an interventional endoscopist. It's surgery for people who weren't good or arrogant enough to go straight for surgery. I do everything from ERCPs (super cool procedure that's part endoscopy and part fluoroscopy to fix issues with the bile ducts) through ablation of an esophageal condition called Barrett's esophagus to dealing with PEGs. Hence my intimate knowledge with tube-seekers.
Top kek anon, I agree. >>350453>>350297
Like becoming > interested in this thread
because you frequent munchies in your "job" doesn't even make sense. How does a medical professional stumble upon chans like this in the first place?
(Last response on this point before I get banned for derailing)
Not sure what you think junior doctors do in their downtime, but it sure ain't looking at tee times (that's what consultants do) or read medical journals (well, maybe tryhards and people in actually demanding medical disciplines do, we don't). Imageboards are fun because they let you say the things you've been dying to say but couldn't thanks to professional conduct rules.
Also, I was an animefag who probably spent more time on 4chan than my textbooks.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Labfag upthread, I've encountered anons like this before all over chanboards. Basically the logic some variation of this;>I'm a neet/in a low paid job/normal tier job>Only people like me enjoy chanboards>Only normalfags can be in X profession>Therefore anon is lying about being in X profession
It's projection and not being able to understand that all kinds of people, even "Successful" ones, enjoy and know about chanboards.
God, this discussion is tedious. Can we stop arguing about who is and isn't a doc and go back to munchy milk? It's pointless. Whether medfag is a doc or not, he won't show you proof - let's get real, you wouldn't, either, knowing it would risk your career. And it is quite irrelevant - the point of this thread is to discuss munchys, and if whatever medfag and labfag has to add is pertinent to that, fine, and if it isn't, it doesn't matter whether they're doctors or not.
Now, let's see some milk, please.
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I just can't with this girl anymore…
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Anyone follow this chick? Doesn't look like a munchie, but sure is way over the top. Like nearly topless photos, and bought herself two backpacks for fluids (they're usually done by gravity so a backpack isn't going to do shit). Not many posts, but good god. Also, there's a video of someone feeding her the same popsicle, and she laments the fact that no one got a video of her coming out of surgery. Just as annoying as that Jacquie girl
Ambulatory fluids are done almost always using an IV pump and thus a backpack is perfectly ok. It is in fact common for people on TPN whose infusion times may be 12-18 hours a day to use a backpack holding their bag and a pump.
Not white knighting, just clarification.
Yeah most feeds/fluids aren't done by gravity, they're done by pump. Only bolus feeds are usually done by gravity.
Went to school with a guy on TPN who was hooked up to his backpack at least half of the day.
Feeds are, but for iv home hydration, it's common to have it done by gravity simply because iv pumps are a lot more expensive than a feed pump. TPN definitely needs a pump, but hydration doesn't. There's special tubing that adjusts the rate. Insurance companies don't want to have to pay for anything they don't have to. There's even special containers for iv medications that don't require a pump.
Sage for medfagging
Elastomeric pumps (balloon pumps) don't work for larger volumes and cheaper IVs. Typically they're used for chemo or abx, never seen them for fluids or TPN. For a long term fluid dependent person, it is absolutely paramount to have a controlled rate of flow lest they overload their heart and/or kidneys, and gravity kits are not very precise. Plus, especially with young people, providers now largely recognize that spending six hours a day hooked up to fluids is not fun.
Sage for medfagging.
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"I'm in so much pain that I end up crying, let's take a good selfie to show people my tears"
I think it's really funny that she always snaps when people wish her "Get well soon". And she always replies with her sob story :)
She just got diagnosed with endo, but she keeps writing that she has it for 13 years. Getting your period might be painful, but how can you be so sure that you already have it for 13 years?
Recently she had 9 incurable chronic illnesses and now she only has 7? And what's really strange: What happened to her breast lumps and her chronic sinusitis?
Honestly I'd like to have a doctor who is able to cure incurable illnesses!
Suddenly her RA isn't just severe but "end stage RA" and thanks to it she has heart problems. Depending on the day she also has lung problems. My knowledge about RA is limited, but isn't it kinda odd that she's able to walk without crutches? And using your smartphone must be impossble during morning stiffness during the end stage, when your hands are so painful?
Her explanations for her selfies and sobbing? She wants to be an advocate for RA and other chronic illnesses!
I guess it's done differently in other places, my experience has been different from what people are saying. (Going to power level here, sorry) I do iv fluids at home, and don't have a pump, and everything was ordered by Mayo. There's a special valve in tubing controls the rate very closely, like a pump would, just with a lower maximum volume per hour. (Although being mobile would be awesome, I'm a bit jealous of people who have a pump!)
I still can't stand when spoonies turn their illness into a fashion statement and give medical things cutesy pet names. Guess it's more of a personal annoyance.
Sage for blogging
Sage for medfagging
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pretty sure that Wagamama isn't the best diet if you've got soooper severe stomach problems.
everyone's got the right to be ugly but this girl is really pushing it.
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Why does she have to milk that old broken arm so much???
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The constant asking for validation
She thinks that everything is Endo pain now, even though she also has Colitis and Fibro. And after her doctor diagnosed Endo via ultrasound she thinks that she really has Endo.
She never discussed the treatment options for endo? She only wrote that it can also be found in the lung and brain.
She's discussing her treatment for RA all the time. Someone only has to write "Get better" or "I'm so sorry, that you're in pain" and her answer to that contains every treatment she had so far and how many illnesses she has.
Sadly there is end stage RA. Most of the time she only posts what hurts. She is trying to talk to her surgeon since November or so, but she keeps claiming that she can't reach him. She only had surgeries for her elbow and wrist(right arm), which isn't that much.
Sadly a lot of people are supporting her. At the beginning she wasn't that dramatic, but now? Even followers write, that she shouldn't be on Facebook/Instagram, when she is in so much pain
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Half the 'cripple punks' are perfectly fine and obsessed with disability as another way of externalizing their super special queerness. Here's my favorite one, @littlelizardqueen. she has these telltale Munchie dramatically posed photos for just about every appointment she has ever attended. It's hilarious.
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ISTR that she's one who goes on about being terminal a lot?
The ridiculous posing in that tag speaks for itself, though, more than any one account. robynlambird is my favourite because she's ragingly narcissistic and constantly calls herself a model.her CP itself may be real? but she's milks the hell out of it and loves the attention her disability brings her. She's playing on the munchie culture of IG in everything she does. "Athlete. Mentor. Youtuber." kek
The mentor part is correct. She's a mentor of sorts to Munchies and people with real disabilities who wish to milk the everliving daylight out of them. She has taken a lot of them under her wing, including some underage. I used to know one of them - mild EDS/POTS, gets by perfectly fine, lives and works and stuff. Suddenly this girl, who used to run marathons, decided she wanted to be a disability athlete, and whined until she got a wheelchair, quit her job and now her life is basically spoonie whining and activism. Thanks Robyn.
(Why are they always called Robyn?)
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Looks like she is "thriving" without her tube! Why would you waste money on such a meal to then purge..no sorry signals get mixed up in brain and then purge!
The "I'm a beauty queen" shot!
bahahaha. Except she does have the tube in in this picture. But also, since she had the tube "Taken away" she claims all this malnutrition etc. yet looks like she hasn't lost as much as a single pound!
The new tool to purge all their food. Bulimia without the vomiting.
These spoonies use their fashion statement NG/PEG's to drain all their stomach contents out so they can eat like fattys and protest their innocence that they are so ill due to GI issues "look how much weight I keep loosing, I'm so ill".
Granted those with legitimate GP need to vent and drain but they don't misuse it!
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Lost the will to live at 'ICU Conqueror'.
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Why yes, if you shave your head to look like someone undergoing chemo, you will elicit more sympathy for your made up super severe EDS.
those "crippled queers" give actual crippled queers like me a bad name
jokes aside, its amusing how quickly their stories fall apart. especially when faced with someone who is legitimately chronically ill and/or queer. there's also a difference between joking about/casually bringing up your conditions and sexuality, and what these munchies are doing.
What the fuck is with those slightly gape-jawed poses? They're not even anywhere close to a person's face while unconscious, you can even see the strain of her trying to keep that face while selfying.
Also I call bullshit at her keeping her glasses while unconscious/in ER, ergo she's milking the situation t seem more severe. Whenever I've ended up unconscious around medical professionals, my glasses ended up being handed back to me after I regain consciousness.
I think it's because they sound very dramatic and scary even though they're mostly just annoying to have. People who have a lot of those specific illnesses are not even close to being totally disabled and usually they aren't fatal barring accidents, but the moment you say heart problems, dislocated, or paralyzed, people who aren't familiar with that specific condition freak out and pile on the sympathy. I feel like a lot of the ott spoonies may actually have the condition they claim and latched on to the attention but aren't nearly as severe as they pretend to be. The unnecessary wheelchairs, braces, and tubes are things they use to try and convince themselves that they're really truly the sickest, most disabled, cripple punk that ever made being sick part of their identity. Kind of like when some ana-chans want to be hospitalized so they can say they were the best at being anorexic.
If they didn't have whatever illness(es) they latched on to, they'd just be trying to become the edgiest youtuber, the most messed up heroin addict, or whatever toopoor is trying to be. It's kind of what makes them cows.
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Okay i just checked her out and damn.
She claims to have CRPS because of nervepain and tingling in her foot. CRPS are one of the worst pain condition ever, causing people to commit suicide. It's not just tingling, it's changes in skin color and temperature.
Yeez this girl…
Also if she had CFS as she claims, she probably wouldn't be able to dance on that level
Because for her bad attention is better than no attention. She is trying to bait people into asking about her arm or talking about her "severe" anorexia (I don't doubt she was anorexic but I don't think it was as severe as she makes it out to be).
I do think she has some sort of mental health issue but people tend to be more understanding/sympathetic of physical illnesses which is why she is clinging to anything she can think of. If half of these munchies would stop exploiting every ache and pain they may actually get the attention they crave.
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Just one of several I've capped so far from this account. I noticed she likes all of her own posts from a different account
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I couldn't find the hashtag post, she must've deleted that after realizing how ridiculous it sounded. I'm still pretty sure her GP isn't real as I recall an earlier conversation where she told me she had been diagnosed with IBS and harassed the doctor into giving her a GES but he didn't think she has gastroparesis, so who knows. I never saw a post about having a tilt table done but suddenly she has pots and dysautonomia…I honestly don't pay much attention to her but when I was reading this thread she was the first person to jump to my mind
Oh, and if she's a ballet dancer & munchie, of COURSE she's going to diagnose herself with EDS due to her natural flexibility. EDS isn't just flexibility, it's (real life example) reaching for your phone on the seat next to you and having your fucking shoulder dislocate.
Yes, that happened.
Sage for samefagging.
Dani's definitely ill, but it's not with the disorders she wants. She'd probably be functional if she wasn't so obsessed with her instagram.
Some cognitive disability or ABI and some personality disorder imo, but I'm not gonna jump in on the medfagging junk going on rn.
Because Allitt went from Munchausens to MBP.
She even had her appendix removed unnecessarily when she was a student…reminds me of Robyn's "appendectomy saga". Then took a caring profession, and found herself mysteriously alone in the room with several infants when they had fatally low blood sugars, or unexplained heart attacks (she was injecting air into their veins). She still got to be the centre of attention.
She needs something to keep her busy and give her an identity beyond being sick. (Being a caregiver in a nursing home would be terrible since its hard work with little thanks and she would gain access to all sorts of medical information and supplies she doesn't need).
I do think she does have mental health issues, possibly severe depression/anxiety or something of the sort that can manifest physical symptoms but is often misunderstood so she clings to the physical things since they gain more understanding. If she isn't intentionally causing her no so severe "severe" gastroparesis then it could very well just be an anxiety issue.
She seems like she would be fully capable of holding down some sort of job - if she got the proper therapy/medication combination. Her current therapist doesn't seem to be doing her any favors. It wouldn't necessarily be easy for her to hold down a job but finding a routine and identity outside of being sick would do her a world of good.
I also thought that it's impossible to reach that stage at 26 when you're living in Austria.
And as far as I know nobody ever confirmed that her heart is inflammed? Sadly she won't answer such questions.
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All of these posts are borderline blog-posting. Please stop. It makes you sound nearly as Munchie as the Munchies you are complaining about. Posts like these are attention-seeking in their own right. We don't need to hear about your personal experiences in order for you to make any points you care to articulate. Thanks much.
Sorry, Spongebob. I thought having input from sick people who did ballet was quite helpful tho? Also without lived experience of illnesses how can we tell the cows are munching it up?
But I also understand your need for milk, not discussion posts. Please don't pasture me. I have a good cow coming up.
Ack anywhere but with kids or caregiving!
She'd get into suffering competitions or just blab on about her own fake illnesses all day and probably get insanely upset if a little kid
in kinder decided they hate her that day.
(I wouldn't trust her not to steal medical equipment or drugs either tbh)
Dani needs a job with no interaction with sick peopleor medical anything. Feels cruel to say it but I think she's gonna peak at being a server or line cook or cleaner, etc.
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Part 1 of 2 of WTF
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Part 2 of 2 of WTF
i had both of those screencapped but got distracted from my phone. to me it just screams attention seeking - you're not being treated differently because you're in a wheelchair, you're being treated differently because you don't need to be in a damn wheelchair. the video got me as well. what idiot runs in a cast in the first place? you're just asking for more potential problems from that imo.
also, didn't mean to interweave my own issues, but i felt my own input as a dancer was helpful in pointing things out. please don't pasture me either, i'm sure i can find some excellent milk to make up for the discussion
"Don't run in a cast">> runs in cast, hopes no one copies her
If her ankles are that weak, that's pretty much the end of a ballet career. My guess is she doesn't know what she wants more- to be admired as a dancer or to be admired as a brave little soldier.
Same here! What happened to this thread…?!
Anyway, in case anyone missed alithezebra, randomly found this gem where someone actually asked her if she's even been diagnosed with munchausenshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gm4e56Z0VcA
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Definitely needs therapy, doesn't like being well
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When your posing for therapy but hate your body! Yeah attention please
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Imagine being weighed with fluids, food and clothes on! Must take clothes off cause they clearly make me heavy
Hahahaaahaaaahaaaaaaaa Awww anon you're so silly.. you win wk snowflake of the day, congrats.
Wait, dammit.. is stupidity a thing now? ? Am I being stupidist?? Moral of story is; if it hurts don't do it ~ the world.
Why yes! Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. If something is going to cause me greater physical stress and/or extended recovery time/ exhaustion I tend to be a "grown-up" and cognitely choose not to knowingly harm myself for ridiculous sympathies. Ugh. I just can't… why can't any of these people catch common senseness… I mean we could rename it CS* and tumblerise it?
Sage for smh rage.
Oh, what bullshit. Half of those conditions, like precordial catch, literally are not diagnosed save to bill for it, because they have zero clinical relevance. The exception is when a patient is freaking the shit out that they're having a super serious heart attack and then it's just a false sensation and you have to somehow bill for the half an hour they wasted of your life.
Also, as a professional sick person, she should check her bills. It's good practice anyway.
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Omg look at all the super serious meds she's taking for breakfast!
Zantac (OTC), lansoprazole (OTC), vitamin B (supplement), cetirizine HCl (OTC), paracetamol (OTC), some multivitamin (supplement), blocked nose relief (OTC)… the only real medications I can discern are the gabapentin liquid and the metoclopramide suspension. But yeah, whatever makes you look more like a walking pill dispenser.
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she pretty much admits that she went to the ED after being worried about nothing.
check the hashtags, she's watching this thread
(despite this being an anonymous image board, I don't give that you know who I am)
This is Ali.
Yes, I have watched this board ever since I found out I was on it. No one tells me these things, but I just stop and watch the ignorance flooding into (many of the posts in) this forum. And because of this forum, despite how ugly it can get, I did learn something. But I'm not playing the victim (unless you see yourselves as bullies).
I genuinely apologized. I actual saw some wrong in what I was doing, for goodness sakes. I didn't write the apology to play the victim; you want people to stop doing what they're doing and realize what they have done is wrong, so there you go. I'm going to stop posting about my health in "munchie fashion". But I'm not going to stop getting the care that I need. I don't clog up multiple doctors. I rarely go to the hospital. I get diagnostics and treatments for things that my doctor has witnessed in office, not just things I've brought up to him. I pay for all of my crap (or insurance picks it up, which is paid for). I'm not using up resources that I don't need. And I would give ANYTHING to not be ill and go back to the life I once had. I don't want this life. Had you read the apology, you would know there is more to me than my illnesses but I never showed that side on an account I made to keep the embarrassing details out of my personal life. I HATE being ill and hate showing signs of my illness.
So stop. All you're doing is stalking me at this point. You're not getting the "milk" you want so you're finding any pathetic excuse to make crap up or dig into literally any place you want. Laugh all you want, think things are fake all you want, but stalking (looking for any possible content on me, trying to gain access to my private accounts, "we have spies on her personal account" → that'll go over well in defending yourself in me "playing the victim") and posting about me is unacceptable, especially when they are lies.
Anyway… my apology was sincere and I'm sorry some of you are too arrogant to see that. But you need to stop. Thanks.
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Hey Ali. Please fuck off. Your post is replete with lies (ex: "I don't clog up multiple doctors. I rarely go to the hospital", as I seem to remember you had something like a dozen medical professionals on your now defunct tumblr page, refer above), and while I applaud you on your seeming glance of coherency, it is also very clear you are still delusional as fuck.
Whoops, bet you weren't counting on someone remembering your latest forays into diagnoses? I seem to remember you were diagnosed with delusional disorder, and eschewed the continuing diagnosis of BPD? Which is pretty clearly you have.
But yeah, no one's going to stop because you apologized. You're sucking up resources of people that actually need the medical care you don't need, such as for EDS, POTS, whatever. You just keep chasing diagnoses, sucking up doctors' time, and treatment slots, desperately hoping to get validation for the hideous black hole you have gaping inside you.
You vacuous nothing.
Or when you are a munchie who wants to make yourself look sick you purposefully chose that terminology. The fluids she is referring to is anything she had to drink. If she wasn't trying to score extra sick points, she would have just said "in clothes with the little I ate/drank".
She is really pushing for sympathy points right now and is trying to go the anorexia flare route since nobody is buying the gastroparesis route. She wants people to comment and say you don't look fat, you don't need to lose weight, you are beautiful.
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what. the. fuck.
why would anyone be excited about the potential of an MS diagnosis? it's a vile disease. and sorry Kelly, MS can be faked, just like you're doing now.
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Fuck, forgot to post what I could capture off your blog. Here ya go, numbnuts, in case you have seeming also developed amnesia about your careful collection of new docs! Gotta catch 'em all!
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You're just gonna get told >Read the old threads
But I'm nice so here's some real news articles>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teenage-cancer-patient-faked-illness-9760398>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/05/mother-denies-teenage-campaigner-faked-cancer-police-start-inquiry/
Can't find the one about him being formally charged, it's probably in this thread or the last though.
We were talking about him for months before the police got involved, and they got involved because of someone completely unrelated to this website.
I think she was apologising for her prior Instagram behaviour. I may be in the minority but I doubt she would clinically be considered to have Munchausen's. I could be wrong but my guess is she's just a young woman who is emotionally unstable and uses mild ill health as a source of attention. Same with the doll girl who was posted earlier (Felicity Rose?). I don't think either of them is on the level of "faking" a whole illness, more like exaggerating and being melodramatic. That's sadly become normal on Instagram although they are at the extreme end (I hope Ali does see how unhelpful I think is, I think she makes a fair point that following her around online after she's deleted her spoonie account is a bit pointless).
Then there are people like Kelly and similar who are more concerning IMO because they literally drain resources and have huge followings to manipulate and mislead. I agree with the anon above that she could be faking MS. They're often milkier than these young women who aren't set in their ways yet, in my opinion.
The medfags seem to have stopped power-levelling and imo it's always funny when a cow comes to cry about how they're not a cow.
If they weren't faking it they wouldn't feel the need to justify themselves to 'le stalking bullies'
sorry for my horrible typing, farmers, I meant "how unhelpful it is"
saged for incompetence
The "medfag" blogging was cancer.
Yeah, not to get all Tumblery, but he's a trans he. I hate the dude, don't get me wrong, but referring to him as a "she" rubs me the wrong way. If he were merely a fakeboi then go at it, feminize the fuck out of his pronouns, but he's not. He's trans. He's a he. End-o-story.
Sage for Tumbling like a preschooler at gymnastics class.
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Hah, I had vibes back in 2015 about Eli being a munchie.
assuming she's in her late teens to mid twenties, she's too young for MS. in most cases, symptoms don't start until late 30's, and even then it's still hard to diagnose and is usually written off initially as nerve problems, ie the numbness in the extremities and balance issues.
but in her defense, if she actually did see a doctor and get a diagnosis, it's probably false. as far as i know from the cases in my immediate family, it's also not something that shows up in fucking bloodwork. how she went from "blood disorder" to "MS" is outrageous. does she even know what the disease is?
sorry for the autism, my dad and his sister both have MS and it's incredibly severe and watching their decline over the years is heartbreaking.
bust still, it's pretty rare for MS to appear in people younger than mid-to-late thirties since it's a chromosomal thing triggered
by stress/environmental factors/smoking. has she mentioned her symptoms anywhere else that could indicate she's telling the truth?
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By the way, Nicola Anne Lulildia's new username is scrabble_queen. Way to bully strangers on the Internet, Nikki Lulildia. Since you're 20 years old, I thought you might know better. How terrible of you. You've really hurt a lot of peoples' feelings. I mean, I know you're probably really jealous of R and E being so successful in life while you're rotting away in Coventry, but do you really need to take out your anger on strangers? Not nice at all.
Motherfuxingdemons changed their username to le.mother.fuxing.demons? If you're going to send people hate, at least own it. Weird that both you and Nicola Lulildia are from Coventry. You don't seem like the type to hang out. I guess you two probably went to class together since you're both 20, but she's kind of plain and fugly while you've got the fake insecure "bitch" thing going on.
I hope nobody tells the lion what you two have been up to. She seems way too sweet to tolerate that kind of bullshit. I bet she'd dump your rude asses in an instant.
Don't tip the cows, dumbasses.
Found her current medication. It seems like she's taking 200mg Tramal, 8mg Hydal and 16mg Xefo. She also has/had Colitis, so it's kinda odd that she's taking Xefo. And I don't think Xefo is a good idea, when you tend to take Aspirin for a cold. And she's on Rituximab.
And when she's in so much pain all the time it seems a bit odd, that her doses are so low.
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Muh PTSD from doctors not giving me what I want!
Given she has slow GI transit, or claims to have, she meets an absolute contraindication to Xefo as it vastly increases the risk of severe GI bleeds.
sage for gastroenterofagging.
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Doctors not wanting to give you the tube you want? No problem, raise 10 grand so that some unscrupulous private surgeon can give you the plastic hose you so desperately desire.
This is like the poorfag version of Munchieing: they're not even self funding it anymore. #crowdfundyourmunchhausens
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Context to above.
#mostgirlsonlyhave8holes… Yeah.. NO. WE HAVE 10. If you only got 8 girl, then your "health" problems are about to get much much worse… Sue your Dr's. Seriously. They done goofed with your dx. .
Do you even anatomy??? Fuuuuuck..
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1. ice-cream is a NOPE in gastroparaesis, esp if it's So Severe that you're supposedly getting a week of specialist testing
2. perhaps a little less time watching box sets and a little more time cleaning your fucking house you absolute beast
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Why does all these tubies pose for the camera like it's right of passage to say ooh look at me and my tube! We get it you have a tube!
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JESUS CHRIST STOP THE GOD DAMNED IV POLE POSING! Also stop demanding everything to be compounded and parenterally administered so you can have more pumps on your pole than the other spoonie asshole! Seriously, I have come across a girl who demanded we compound Calpol (very digestible and very easy to swallow paracetamol/acetaminophen/APAP/wtfeveryoucallit) just so she can have another IV bag and a pump. I overheard her telling her BFF over the phone that she now has six IV pumps! Because that sounds serious as fuck now!
Most of the sickest people I follow aren't tubed, probably because (being actually sick) they realise that getting extra unneeded shit done would be completely pointless, and would carry extra risks. And only a tiny minority NEED tubes. The people I follow on IG who are really unwell and have them for genuine medical reasons never pose with them or show them off.
Saged for blogging.
It really bothers me seeing how many people seemingly fake serious medical issues. One thing that I've seen a ton in the spoonie/ill community online is people who seem to get diagnosed with something after one test/one doctors visit. I had severe aplastic anemia (year and a half post bmt from my brother to cure it!) and it took a month and a half, three bone marrow biopsies, and multiple different blood tests before they finally diagnosed me, even though it was pretty clear it's what I had I went into the hospital with a Hg of 49, platelets of 15, and basically non-existent white count). Furthermore, as someone who was basically just putting off dying for a few months while I waited for my transplant, I still went to university everyday (cell bio degree :)), I did my best to do light work outs that wouldn't cause any dizziness or fainting, and I honestly only ever made a few posts about it. People who fake serious illnesses make me sick, because I had to fight to get people to believe I was sick, so people faking it is really just making it harder for legitamely sick peoples to be recognized. I really hope that these people get the mental help they seem to need.
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The other thing I hate? Fucking Vogmasks.
Now, masks are appropriate in the severely immunosuppressed (post transplant, immune deficiency, chemo, etc.) and in rare circumstances during pollen season they might anecdotally help people with atopy, though the point of atopy is that if it gets in touch with their skin or eyes, it can still provoke a nasty reaction.
Now, these situations are rare. People can be on heavy duty immunosuppressants as we give out say for Crohn's disease or various other autoimmune diseases (say 2-3mg azathioprine per kg body weight) or even cytotoxic chemo and not need a mask. The reality is that these masks are not in any sense justified when at the same time you keep touching shit other people have touched without gloves (people who are immunosuppressed often wear cotton gloves for this very reason), eating random shit that no one with serious immunosuppression should (milk, uncooked meats etc.) and generally don't care much for separation.
And don't even get me started on the bullshit explanation about being 'allergic to everything'. The eosinophilias that would cause that are insanely rare and present very differently than just being allergic to everything (sorry, not gonna give Munchies tips here).
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Why are you so excited about having so much medical shit in your bedroom and doing a tour?
L.O.L,, vogmask actually has this disclaimer on their site:
"vogmask is NOT classified as Masks to prevent disease – Regulated under CDRH/FDA as Class II medical devices subject to premarket notification 510(k), classified as surgical mask 21 CFR 878.4040. Surgical masks are not PPE, they protect the patient and the surgical area from contamination. Surgical masks prevent droplets being expelled into the environment by the wearer and protect patients in surgery from these being transferred to the operative site.
Helps to protect from non-oil airborne particles such as dust, pollen, shavings, and particles found in air pollution.
Does not eliminate the risk of illness, diseases, or infection"
any immunocompromised person would not wear a mask that doesn't even work at preventing illnesses like colds and flu.
Yes. I do. I know when a doctor has ever said anything serious to me or a family member or even a pet second opinions have been seeked even if it was just to confirm. I'm always super uncomfortable when a doctor diagnoses with just initial blood work or exam then proceeds to script heavy duty meds. >>352448
The website even says it's just for filtering scents and the like. I don't even understand how the hell they can wear them all the time they are hot and gross.
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Hahahaha this stefy girl "reported" every post on this thread about Kelly, Kelly is loving this attention it's great…
Not since they made it sugar free :(
"Banana antibiotics" though? YUM
I have a mask because I have bad asthma and live in a polluted city. But wearing it in a hospital won't do much - Vogmask instructions state it's more for larger particles/pollution than microbes.
She (assuming you're talking about Kellerina) doesn't even have typical MS morphologies like Dawson's fingers. She has spots that might suggest demyelination, which may frankly be anything, from migraine spots to incidental findings. I have those spots. My ex-girlfriend had several. A friend has a few. None have MS or any symptoms suggestive of it. She did not even consider that her issues might be her brain shutting down from lack of oxygen due to severe anemia - no, she went straight to MS when tbh most of her symptoms are not very specific. Sure, she had bladder issues, but that's associated with cord MS, not brain MS, as far as I'm aware (my remit is the other end of people). She never reported Lhermitte's, meningism, anatomically confined paraparesis (i.e. limited to a dermatome rather than a random area) or, most importantly, optic neuritis. It is very rare for someone to have a completely healthy optic nerve and great eyesight but have MS.
Sage for medfagging.
The following is from my friend, who works as a child life specialist (basically, sort of a cross between social worker and psychotherapist to children who spend long periods of time in hospital, including those who may never leave). Her commentary:
"We explicitly discourage this. When parents go home with a kid hooked up to vents and tubes and IV lines, we explicitly tell them to make the room look as friendly as they can and not turn it into a hospital. Parents who are a little too keen to do that are dodgy, by the way. Children who are surrounded by medical equipment and feel like they're in hospital even at home are at risk of getting institutionalised and they have a tough time to function in other environments once they recover. I'm not sure how this translates to adults, but even in the case of teens we encourage an environment that is far from the cold clinical environment of a hospital. Often we see kids who have grown up with parents who built a hospital room at home pretend to have issues so they can be admitted because the only environment in which they feel at ease is a hospital."
How easy is it to get a helper/assistance dog in the USA? I've seen Instaspoonies talk about getting their dog accredited at Petsmart!
Here you can't buy your own dog, you have to register, meet super strict criteria, then be matched with a suitable trained dog.
(I'm a wheelchair user and we've considered applying for a service dog to help with various things both practical and medical, but I only just meet criteria)
There's no legal category of assistance dog in the USA. Thus, anyone can call their pet an assistance dog, get a suitable harness, etc. You can call your pet etc. an assistance dog, there's nothing that prohibits you from doing so. The so-called assistance dog registries are scams.
Legislation on access encompasses all animals, whether they're called sssistance dogs or not, who fulfill certain conditions. Animals who don't are generally considered 'emotional support animals' which is a nice way to say 'pet with an idiot for a handler'. As such, it's not the registration or the harness that makes an assistance dog, but what it does for the disabled person. However, owing to the minefield that ADA and access legislation is, most people just look at the dog and if it has the harness or the handler has an ID, they assume it's legit.
not gonna lie i follow kelly for the same reason, her stories are so inconsistent and attention seeking. and her obsession with her cat is disturbig
sage for OT
In the USA you can either owner train your dog or mini horse to specific stuff in the ADA law. Like they need to be well behaved have tasks to mitigate your disability a long with a bunch of other stuff. It's a lot of work and TBH I feel most owner trainers shouldn't be owner training and also a good lot of them don't even need a dog. You can also get one from a program which is a whole different thing and you have to raise to give the program money. But there is no registry in the USA for service dogs. Also therapy dogs and emotional support dogs and other non dog and horse support animals are just pets and have no formal training and cannot have access to any non pet friendly places.
Sage for blogging and
i've seen the post where she read her chart and was butthurt and complaining for weeks about it but i totally missed where the doctor noted about her cat, i'm dyinggg oh my god. i thought she was genuine too, i know other's with blood conditions but when she started reacting and they started treating her poorly and questioning her i started questioning it. i believe you can be diagnosed with MS in your twenties, but i think she's around 24, not in her late 20's, plus it was a very sudden diagnoses. also, who in their right mind would give a 20 something a full hysterectomy after one consult? that's completely unheard of
sage for possible blogging
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A terminal case of 'the world is out to get me!' syndrome.
I agree they look retarded but>Why are they alone in their doctors office anyway?
Is probably a good contributing reason to>Why do these EDS faggots always pose in such awful, ugly positions all over their doctors tables and shit?
After my nurse is done with measurements and I have to sit around for ages in a tiny dull room waiting for my doctor to come in, I could totally understand why people would do some retarded selfie poses or other dumb things just to pass the time. I'm not an impatient person and don't have ADHD, but something about waiting for the doctor in their office just drives me mad with boredom, much moreso than being in the waiting room.
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Her hysterics are getting even more ridiculous by the minute
This thread is getting bizarre. I feel like several of the cows are lurking around here, getting their attention high on everyone talking about them, even if it is negative. We know Ali is here, and now probably Kelly.
You guys do realize that we find you repugnant, right? And think you are aggressively mistreating yourselves physically in order to garner attention from medical specialists?
On a different note, those of you feeling the need to open up about your different medical paraphenalia, please shut the fuck up. I don't give a shit if you need a wheelchair, an IV, or a fucking VOGmask. You're dangerously close to edging into the lolcow territory yourselves, as oversharing your medical plight without obvious reason makes you pretty obviously remnants of he effluvia of the worst of the "spoonie" community.
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Ok, not sure if this is a cow but almost definite some of this is bullshit. The probability of three inoperable spinal tumours (yet not a trace of her undergoing cytostatic therapy or radiation or anything…), MS AND CRPS is rather low. Sure, some diseases (POTS + GP + EDS) may travel together, but these are three different conditoins with altogether different aetiologies.
I'm calling bullshit on this.
Thanks, that's really interesting and helpful. Sounds like they're going to bring it in line with what we have in the UK = a far more controlled system for service animals.
LOL @ all the munchiechans who will lose the ability to take their "emotional support goose" to class tho.
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Tbh she definitely feels like a lowkey cow, but probably doesn't have the high volume mental disorders that uber cows like Ali, Shelbie, and Kelly have. But going through her insta is kinda chilling because she's just lowkey enough that I'm guessing her doctors trust that she's not faking.
She claims to have developed MS at the age of 14, so she's absolutely a cow, and has that same trend of spamming the hashtags with every single illness she claims to have. Pic related.
Oh– the "spinal tumors" she has are spinal arachnoid cysts, which according to senior Google, "Many spinal arachnoid cysts cause no symptoms at all. However, if the cyst is large enough, it can compress the spinal cord and surrounding nerves. In these cases, patients may experience pain, weakness, or numbness in the back, arms, or legs."
So yeah. It's not like fucking cancer or anything.
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Meet Brynn. She's one of the pied pipers of the spoonie community. Nobody really knows what's wrong with her but she does the whole complement: wheelchair, NJ, assistance dog,… and reinforcing in everyone who has a mild cough or sore joints that they are now part of the sisterhood and deserve their special spoonie rights. Anyone who has ever gotten close to her has rapidly deteriorated (check out her friend Ashley Anne, who went from running marathons to a wheelchair).
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Chanel 'tubefedwife' White is not a Munchie in that she is probably actually ill (scleroderma, an autoimmune disease). However, the fact that she seems to have no parcel of life that is not pervaded by her obsession with her tubes and chemo and oxygen and TPN, and the near childish way she uses coping mechanisms devised for children (naming your tube and Tubie Whoobies are for 7-year-old girls with cancer who need to undergo the pain and indignity of a G-tube, not grown-ass adults, you obsessive fucks!) is just… insane.
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Oh fuck me, I lied. Christina is a fucking psycho. Her story of the girl who accused her of faking all her illnesses having recently died from the flu is tinged with the kind of disbelieving jealousy that churns my stomach.
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Activismcow. Smashing sexism wasn't enough, she needed to rage against ableism… so she quickly found herself a 'disability'.
AMPS is a condition that can cause nerve pain in any part of the body. it's like CRPS but often triggered
by psychological factors (CRPS like pain without any physical findings like temperature and skin changes)
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Put here without comment. That doctors treat someone with psychiatric symptoms as extensive as hers for what could easily be considered psychosomatic issues is baffling. Fucking American healthcare.
I believe she's really ill but that how she portrays herself is a total exaggeration. Same for Brynn, maybe?
Kelly and Jaquie are probably faking most of it, though. The Jacquie YT channel is sick, and KElly's reaction makes her seem more suspicious, not less.
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Childish affectations. Like Ali's "hospital bag" even for day trips with the toys and blanket, and Hypermobileguy's fucking "Tubie friend" which he probably made himself.
(I hope he made it himself, otherwise that's a comfort that didn't go to a sick child)
Chanel is definitely grating, and I can't get over her treatment of getting a stem cell transplant to alleviate her mixed connective tissue disease. (Which is like… a fucking nightmare hodgepodge of different autoimmune conditions.)
To be honest, her feed scared the fuck out of me because I'd rather die from my lungs turning into fibrous masses than go through half the shit she subjected herself to. Like damn, go on some hydroxychloroquine. Drink some water. Take a nap. Lay off the chemo.
I keep seeing (American) spoonies talking about stem cell transplants for EDS and … is that even a thing?
If it was, would these cows even want them? They want to look like they are seeking a cure, but they also get the kudos for being The Most Sick. Dilemma!
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Ok, it's official, I'm calling it Anonmedfag's sign: photos of your pills intended to show how sick you are where at least a third of it are over the counter or vitamins are proof you're fucked in the head.
Man, who fucking knows. I think they're throwing scary sounding treatments at what is essentially a connective tissue disease that won't respond to a stem cell transplant like other connective tissue diseases do. EDS isn't because your autoimmune system is attacking the connective tissues. They're just fucked up for other reasons.
Other connective tissue diseases, like scleroderma, are because the autoimmune system is attacking your healthy connective tissues. Which I guess is why a stem cell transplant MIGHT work in resetting the fucked up autoimmune response. I'm guessing the EDS munchies are stupidly equating EDS with other connective tissue diseases.
Final Christina post, as she shit talks doctors for not recognizing her pretty recognizable conditions? I guess she's not getting treated for her imaginary shit, so she's feeling salty.
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This is from chloeschronicles_of_illness, who claims to be 'vaccine injured', having ME and all sorts of stuff induced by a HPV vax. Oddly, she improves with reiki and CBD (cannabis oil). She now wants £100k for interventions that are either a crock of shite (reiki etc.) or which she would get from the NHS if she were legitimately ill (IVIG, wheelchair).
People! Fund your own fucking Munchhausen's!!!
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Forgot to attach the pic.
In my experience, most people mention the medication, especially when talking to another sick person - they might want to know what to look out for or what meds to prefer.
Sage for personal.
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This girl would be hilarious if it weren't for the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS she is managing to waste on woo-woo and overly expensive tests.
Some vaccine illnesses I get (like getting a fever from the chickenpox vaccine), but getting rekt from the HPV vaccine? Unfuckinglikely.
In the UK's there's a whole controversy over whether the HPV vaccine has caused ME/CFS/narcolepsy in a load of girls.
Mind you, we had this after the swine flu jab went out, too.
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Aaannnnd the hits just keep on rolling. Chloe is clearly thriving off the community energy directed at her. Gasp, she has people getting tattoos! And doing marathons! All for her poor little sick self! Apparently everybody more or less ignored her until she started posting on Facebook about it.
I'm thinking she couldn't cope with not being the prom queen anymore after graduation, failed to establish a path to a healthy adult identity, and decided she would rather be stuck in the infantalizing grip of a bed bound illness her entire life. I'm physically nauseous about this, ffs.
Read what she wants. She wants IVIG for a condition for which it is not effective. She wants private blood and saliva tests (these tend to be absolute scams: https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/tests.html
), more cannabis oil and a lot of other shit that the NHS doesn't cover, and for a good reason - because they don't. fucking. work.
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Look, we can play munchie bingo with this twit.
+ A gofuckme fundraiser (in a country that has free healthcare for essential treatment)
+ The evil old specialist who doesn't believe her sooper special serious condition!
+ Doctor hopping to a more receptive specialist.
+ The fucking mysterious seizures clustered around the effort of social interaction that are as psychogenic as they come.
+ The undisclosed eating disorder she seems to have suffered from since high school. Christ this girl.
(sorry I know we're not supposed to blog)
I fundraised the last 1/5th I needed for my powerchair because I didn't want to wait 18 months for an appointment to be told I didn't qualify because I can walk 10 paces.
My husband works fulltime, so a manual chair I cannot push myself wasn't really an option.
Maybe the CBD oil is for the "mysterious seizures". She might have read about parents of severely epileptic children finding it helps stop them having quite so many.
Obviously this won't work for functional disorders like psychogenic seizures.
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I love how fucking ignorant she is to how the smaller components of her made up disease actually work. Bitch, if you had 12 seizures yesterday, you sure as shit would not be smiling with perfect coiffure and makeup.
And that "paralyzed hand" thing is bullshit. Todd's paralysis due to seizures doesn't just select a fucking hand, it's closer to stroke like symptoms with the same lack of dexterity and mobility, except it clears up after a few hours. Even your fucking tongue goes numb.
If you had 12 seizures the day before, you wouldn't even be selfying. You wouldn't have the muscle control, and you'd probably be in status epilepticus. Hence why her neuro is probably thinking she is full of shit.
I suspect she's refusing to accept a PNES/FND diagnosis because claiming epileptic seizures gives her super srs medical condition more clout.
Again, see also: Hypermobileguy
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"OMG I HAZ A TUBE!"
Look at her fucking excitement. Jesus.
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Guess Nicole isn't feeling the love lately..
Oh boy, a cow emerged! Is it Kelly or Ali? Probably Kelly, Ali has more distinctive typing.
Also no. Ripping on you is extra cathartic. For every time I have had to spend several hours in waiting rooms waiting for one of you long-winded blowbags to stop holding up the doc past your appointment time, this is your payback.
I hope you realize that your shenanigans have only an abstract effect on other people. The senior doc in one of the places I go to actually told the PAs and junior docs they were sending out for testing too much for diagnostic purposes. And seeing the morbidly obese, clearly mentally unwell, but otherwise well nourished and mobile people in that waiting room, I'm honestly not surprised the senior doc was trying to cut down on the tests many of these people demand.
So yeah. People like you literally are a waste of my life.
Oh my god, no it's not. Not if you have critical need. They don't hand them out like candy because they know too many people would give up and rely on them. Witness the lolcows we've looked at, for goodness sake.
There's shopmobility and eBay as other options, but young people on IG don't want those as they don't have social currency. Both of those help fill the gap for people whose needs are less severe.
saged for boring wheelchair debate
Gastroenterology/endo fellow, actual medical degree, unlike you and your spoonie fans who think they know everything better than their own doctors because they googled it and checked it out on WebMD. I see you and your ilk clogging up the system and hurting genuinely sick people because you so need attention. Your shit kills genuinely ill people… and why? Because being babied by doctors and nurses beats working? Because you are so afraid of the real world that you have to hide yourself in a fake hospital room at home? Because you realized that you couldn't be the best so instead of being just good at what you're doing, you decided to whine until someone punched a hole in your abdomen and shoved a tube in it?
Oh yeah, I too was sick once. Suck it up.
Sage for rage.
In general, yes.
There are some exceptions, e.g. fentanyl doesn't do shit against neuropathic pain (methadone is the only opioid that works for neuropathic pain because of its effect on NMDA receptors) or pain from a conversion disorder. But for any legitimate pain that is not fixed by a decent dose of fentanyl, it's unlikely that there's any other way to fix it short of something brutal and ill-advised, such as epidurals, nerve root blockades with lidocaine, conotoxins like ziconotide administered intrathecally, and so on. Fentanyl is also not the strongest of the opioids - it is the most potent by mass, but an equivalent dosis of diamorphine (heroin), which is only permitted in terminal palliative care, is much more euphoric and has a stronger effect on pain (equianalgesic doses are actually calculated based on acting on the same number of receptors - an equianalgesic dose guarantees no withdrawals but the pain killing effect of one drug at the equianalgetic dose with the other might be stronger, significantly so in fact!).
Sage for medfagging.
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One eye on the social media, one eye on the streets
Again with the spoonie (disguised as "experience" to illustrate your point) blogposting! Just stop it, we know what you're on about FFS! No one gives a flying fuck.
Sage for growing rage
It's like a munchie check list, seems oddly familiar, like I've seen it elsewhere cough
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It's actually pretty neat to read some of the research that has been done on Munchausen by Internet. I think it'll eventually be in the DSM.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3510683/
If you're not a spoonie quit detailing your medical history because it adds nothing to the conversation and n1curr. Bawwbaww all you want, no way you're going to convince me you're not doing it for secret spoonie points. Next time I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut and report you. You're welcome for the advance notice.
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Look at that fucking pill collection… almost all of which are OTC supplements.
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This is Hannah. Her YouTube channel, in which she selflessly raises awareness of herself and her condit… nope, just herself, is basically a whole dairy of bullshit.
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More Hannah. Look at me. I have more IV pumps and syringe drivers than you do!
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Oh fuck off Courtney. If you had 8/10 pain, you could not focus enough to fill in the fucking form without shaking! Also, she gets around just fine yet rates her disability level at 80/100? Bitch, there are people who would kill for your mobility and function.
His facebook is pretty boring these days, to be honest. Mostly just photos of dogs.
There was one update saying he was in hospital, but that was months ago and has since been deleted. He's either giving up the munchie shit OR is laying low while the investigation continues (no guesses for figuring out which one it is)
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Shows of her port every tuesday.
Gets magnesium iv for her migraines and trigeminal neuralgia and has a port for this.
Suddenly shows symptoms of MCAD after people asked if she has it.
Films herself while applying some creme on her wrist(there were some pimples/rash).
And suddenly she experiences throat swelling/tightness.
Makes photos every time she has red cheeks or a rash.
Real reason why she got rid of Beau? Beau kept peeing on her bed and he refused to obey. They got rid of the 2nd dog, because the dog prefered her mum.
She's on disability for her RA, TN and fibro and claims that she can't work at all. So how can a person like this look after a dog?
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Tru. But I have a feeling you're a lurkcow yourself, as your weird ellipsis patterns are similar to >>352709
On a cow related note, Courtney is a fucking barrel of laughs, pic related. Yes, Courtney, "a connective tissue disease" is, in fact, a diagnosis, not that I want to give you any validation. I think she wants her rheumatologist to amp it up and give her the mixed connective tissue disease diagnosis she's jonesing for. She's seeming to get everything from the doc aside for the actual words, which is what she's craving. Plaquenil is generally one of the safest drugs to give to someone with UCTD/MCTD that have symptoms on the lower end of the spectrum, as it's not nearly as toxic as other anti-malarials that are traditionally used. Because that shit will make your liver have a very bad time. I'm guessing she wants some hard core corticosteroids, which are like if Satan came up from hell to whisper in your ear every moment of the day.
Also her whole "raynauds" thing is hilarious. Raynauds is more or less harmless, unless you have the ulcerating variety, in which case you would be more worried about the dying flesh at the end of your digits, rather than sticking it on your profile to get the sweet spoonie points. You can even have Raynauds all by itself without any other condition, so it's possible that she may never get a more definitive condition or a more definite diagnosis.
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Kek, Actually no, been on this site awhile-through Robyn,JBN,MLS, Eli/Hunter - cows like Kelly putting the link in their profile have brought the munchies here to compare their sooper speshul stories -that no one cares about
Anyone else notice that after HMG was posted here with his tubie stuffed animal, JBN made a post about hers?
Yeah, the insta spoonies are the ONLY people in the whole wide world who are sick.
Fuck off with that shit. Most people on here are sick; we just don't flaunt it for attention, to compete with other internet strangers or to falsify information such as; those stupid vog masks do NOT protect you from infection. Taking photos of one makes you look silly, you're gonna get called up on it. ;)
Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Was led to lolcow after Joysus and the Spergleberries rubbed me the wrong way weeks ago, and just discovered this thread last week, and I probably shouldn't have been surprised by how widespread this particular type of attention-seeking is. I suppose we all know a couple.https://www.captainangrybones.com/
(The real show happens on Facebook, and possibly on Instagram but I am unable to follow and it's completely private.)
Meet my personal favorite munchie-cow. This lovely lady has been imagining illnesses for years in (relative) privacy before she took to the internet in an attempt to literally be Dina Niels (a young woman with RA who refused to give up being a triathlete over it). I've been following her for years under a previous alias, and it's amusing to watch her revise her own personal history to prove that she has always had [trendy disease du jour] undiagnosed and now is permanently damaged because of it. She actually claimed several other things in the past before deciding to stick with first celiac disease, then various types of arthritis, and so on, then did some doctor shopping to get the diagnoses she wanted despite inconclusive tests. Makes a big deal about how she's "literally one in a billion" because of her sooper speschul extra-rare youneeek subset of said arthritis. (Her blog really illustrated that, but seems to be down indefinitely. She has a twenty-year-old angelfire page that is still accessible, so I didn't even think to try to back it up.) At this point she's been doing it so long I always wonder whether the latest symptom is imaginary, psychosomatic, or if she's having real side effects from the powerful drugs she's taking for diseases she doesn't have.
She has recently started posting again after a leave of absence, so may be one to watch.
Some examples of her bonkers:https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/posts/1893571710878740
Her celiac is the literal worst celiac there is. I have on at least one occasion seen her refer to it as "end stage." End stage celiac disease. Went off on someone for implying their anaphylaxis was in any way as serious as her end stage celiac disease for which she was having seizures on a thread elsewhere too long ago for me to find. (She has never had a seizure to my knowledge, and certainly hadn't then.)https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/posts/1892066007695977
She has more rare diseases than anyone! Spoiler, afaik, she actually does have one of these things. If I remember correctly, it's a common type of cyst that is usually found by accident and doesn't actually do anything besides show up in radiology. It's the visible proof you can point to that she's always wanted, and I think they day they found it was like a second Christmas to her. She may have recently upgraded it to an adenoma, but that may just be a new additional thing she claims to have. Who can keep up? I also suspect she has a real running injury that she just won't let heal properly. She took up running the minute she was able to get a diagnosis of arthritis, because they told her not to, and immediately started training really hard. She freely admits this.https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/posts/1683767471859166
I am the most inspirational! And the most humble! (This one might be just a little BEC, sorry.)https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/posts/1638057953096785
This is just an example of the infrequent posts that give a sense that she always tests negative or inconclusive for the disorders she claims to have. After reading back through two years on her main post looking for two other posts in particular that made her look even more suspect, I'm settling on this one and quitting because now I am bored.
Of note: This spoon-muncher at least makes a token effort to "raise awareness" and has raised small amounts of money for her various illnesses, and to my knowledge has not abused gofundme. The former is most likely just virtue-signalling + SEE HOW SICK I AM YOUGUISE and the latter is probably only because she managed to marry rich, but I'll give her credit anyway.
However, also of note is that she spent the last decade telling everyone her (totally normal child who eats normal food) is borderline for celiac, has eosinophilic esophagitis, and has an insensitivity to sugar. She's mentioned at least the former two on her facebook page, though I think I only caught her saying "disaccarride intolerance" one time elsewhere, and may have decided to not run with that one.
Tbh, she often comes off as more of a gigantic hypochondriac half the time than an actual munchie. I've been debating with myself for years over which it might be. Can it be both?
I apologize that I am not able to post screens atm. I was debating whether to mention her at all because her following isn't even that huge and she periodically fucks off for weeks at a time before remembering her sympathy machine at all, but hey, it's Saturday. If anyone else finds her as irritating as amusing as I do and has the time, feel free to fix this issue for me.
P.S: Also talks about having Raynaud's phenomenon (without ever showing proof) like it's a big effing deal. And likes being photographed in Vog masks and while self-injecting drugs.
I already have an illness that can't be figured out. I just don't need the pity points.
Sage for sorta blogging
Err, speaking from that corner (with the difference that rather than whiling away my days at home feeling sorry for myself, I was actively dying): if you have an illness that can't be figured out, you should be aiming for palliative treatment. That's the difference between actual sick people and spoonies. Spoonies want a diagnosis they can flash on instagram, and want one that is currently trendy (used to be mito… what happened to that? It's EDS and MCAD and *CTD and CRPS now…), not treatment for the symptoms they have. It's not uncommon for the cause of a person's illness not to be identified for months, but in the meantime, they can get treatment for what bothers them. Which most spoonies get: pain relief etc. Honey, your beloved spoonies and yourself don't suffer from magical conditions. You suffer mostly from trivial physical illnesses compounded by a histrionic psychopathology. For this, you do what histrionics do best and make everyone's life hell: doctors, your family, your loved ones, your spouse, other genuinely sick people. All of you need to take a long hard look at yourself and think about what's broken in your lives so that you seek attention at the expense of others, and then try to get treatment for that. With a lot of DBT, there's a chance you may start having normal human relationships rather than the abusive relationships in which you suck people emotionally dry and ragged with your constant drama. Maybe then people will actually love you rather than be chained to you by the sudden acute exacerbations of your nonexistent illnesses every time they try to break free.
Harsh, but true.
Please don't pasture me. Sage for rage and small power level.
top kek anon. she really thinks she's some kind of celebrity huh. "i am the face of arthritis"
if a doctor tells you not to do endurance sport, and you continue to do it anyway, i don't think you get to complain about how tough MUH DIZEEZES are
Also, she has two different kinds of arthritis and *CTD. That does not exist. You either have arthritis or UCTD/MCTD. You literally can't have both.
But wait, there's more! She claims to have EDS and dysautonomia, too! Now, if you don't know shit about medicine, that makes sense. Autoimmune diseases do happen in bunches and having one predisposes you to having another. However, EDS is not an autoimmune disease, it's a congenital deficiency of collagen synthesis/folding. The chances of having one set of inflammatory rare diseases and another set of congenital joint diseases is fairly low, so the two co-occurring are what I will now term Anonfag's Second Sign: a person diagnosed with a genetic joint disease and an autoimmune inflammatory joint disease is almost definitely a cow.
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LMW's "angioedema attack" montage.
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& bonus "I wish my port wasn't showing".
Of course if she really wished that she'd have taken a photo of her necklace with the port covered up.
It was throughout acknowledged that several people who 'chronicle their journey' are legit.
And a lot of people are drama queens and fucking Munchies. So the question is, do you defend them because you are one of them, or because you want to be one of them?
BTW, it's funny how the new Munchie contention is along the lines of 'don't you have jobs?' Is that not a little nasty to ask of people some of whom might have genuine chronic illnesses precluding them of work, you ableist piece of shit?
Angioedema is not a fucking autoimmune condition, it's an IgE mediated allergic reaction. Fuckwit.
Munchie better, moron.
I very nearly responded to this with a well thought out, reasonable post that treated your points with humility and respect.
I'm glad that I came to my senses, because your multiple personality disorders and/or jumble sale assortment of mental disorder preclude you from doing anything but spew vicious remarks in kind.
See, here's the thing: we have a problem with you because you suck up medical resources that you don't need. You hate us because we call you accountable for that behavior, and make you examine your pathological patterns, which just makes you feel worse about yourself.
Go fuck yourself, in short.
Biggest question: Did she see the allergist or did she only bothered him per mail?
And what's the point of her selfies? In one she's sucking in her cheeks and the rest aren't even frontal.
How can you write such a long text, when your throat is "super swollen and it hurts to swallow"? Is it a superpower that comes with being a munchie?
Yay, I found her blog and a couple of the posts I had forgotten about. http://captainangrybones.blogspot.com/2014/10/johns-hopkins-field-trip-1-in-7-billion.htmlhttps://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/photos/a.1446892858879963.1073741828.1445856738983575/1563395967229651/https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/photos/a.1446892858879963.1073741828.1445856738983575/1573872512848663/https://www.facebook.com/CaptainAngryBones/posts/1578760422359872
TL;DR: Her disease is the rarest disease. One snowflake spoonie to rule them all. Also, daughter somehow has sooper rare unrelated illness, too. Because every stomachache is HerpesencephalAIDScanceritis. And now I'm extra, extra done because I didn't realize her FB shit went back that far, and old milk is just not the best milk. There is other old milk elsewhere, but I'm not sure I want to risk revealing all and tipping my personal heifer. Sorry for the mini-sperging. I'll be over here praying to Moschel for fresh milk.
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I think no missed something. So has Kelly had her lady bits removed already. Or is she a mefical miracle? She must know people have figured her out because I was lurking and the her Insta went ptivate! Any one else notice she switches between private and public? I was shit close to having the best screen shots. She knows without a doubt that we get milk there. She responded to some of our topics in here under her last few posts. And I think her fan club is annoyed with her… She wrote in brackets (no lectures) so she knows. People are figuring the whole thing out! And wtf is with being to "sick" to have a job, but well enough to jump… What crazy show off things she does! I wonder if her coddlers know that as soon as she's alone she's not sick!
Honey, if you love being abused, go delude yourself that these people are actually sick, these people don't block critically scarce resources, they aren't exploitative emotional vampires. Your choice, darling.
But please fuck off and leave people who have been burned and stung by these assholes and want to openly discuss them alone.
Serious lol! She's playing the poor
And the kind of fumbles her words when talking about her Dr and "non diagnosis! I'm a blood donor, but not in Canada thank f! K link.https://youtu.be/gqy4KX1T7X0
No, no. She's female. "Trans male," still means female. Go back to tumblr.
Are there any actual, biological male munchies out there or is this some exclusively female phenomenon?
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Wow, Emma is bag of laughs. This just in: Lyme disease can give you bipolar. (I'm oversimplifying her post, obvs, but bitch please, Lyme disease is just as likely to give you exclusively psychiatric symptoms as malaria is, i.e. not fucking likely.)
Browsing through her feed, she apparently takes up a hospital bed, while receiving vitamin infusions and claiming her immune system is suppressed. Though this clinic she's at seems like a munchie's wet dream. It's a private medical clinic that treats shit like allergies and Lyme disease. Augh. I shudder to think of the cost of this.
At least she isn't in the regular healthcare system.https://breakspearmedical.com/
What creeps me out is how otherwise healthy she looks and seems. She's not at all lethargic, she's not remotely frail, not even when she's in a hospital bed with pale lips– she looks lucid, with normal energy, has the energy even for a bit of misplaced humor by doing a normal pose for a photo.
And that range of movement, fluidity and flexibility even on bi-weekly transfusions more or less flies in the face of unexplainable blood disorder. When you're as anemic and/or hypovolemic as she claims to be, you simply can't do that kind of physical stuff.
I think someone before suggested Kelly accesses the port to drain her own blood, which I'm thinking more and more to be likely, rather than some kind of destructive process going on in her body. She would have way more constitutional symptoms.
Which makes me so mad, looking at ALL OF THAT BLOOD that is shown hooked up to her. And she does this every two weeks. My fucking god.
Haaahaha. We should make this the new munchie craze. Mount our own anti-munchie campaign, claiming to get mental illnesses from improbable contact with physical objects.
Ex: I got schizophrenia by sitting next to an oak tree. insert picture of me, sad faced, in a park, next to that horrible oak
This might be unpopular…
I'm not going to touch whether his stutter is completely genuine or not, so let's say it is. But here's the thing, his entire schtick is I Have a Speech Impediment and a Service Dog. Why does a person who has a severe speech impediment make the decision to get a career in public speaking?https://youtu.be/6fbK5Sg8_V0
I agree with >>No. 353144
Eli's pronounce has nothing to do with this thread
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Emma manages to even make getting mono sound like a fucking death sentence. She calls it "glandular fever" and manages to make it sound like something you'd catch out of a Bronte novel. Get over yourself, woman. Get a life, get a real career that isn't milking a common disease for fake awareness.
Hey, I can play this game– I have the consumption. No, not that one, it's another of the half dozen conditions that were called "the consumption" in the early 1800s.
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These beads tho. Every time I see a munchy collecting little token beads for god knows what. I cring. I'm gonna collect bathroom beads, and every time I take a crap I'm gonna put a brown bead on a string and post it for the world to see! This to me is munchy competing. I bet they count them to see who has the most. I get that this could be helpful for a kid or an actually sick person. Honestly Kelly… Blech. This is like proof that she likes being sick… And wants the world to know! Lol to her commercial!!! I bet donors do so wonder where their blood goes, and fortunately for Kelly they never find out! I've been "following" her for agessss! And her volunteer work. It makes me sick. Haha she calls it "giving back!" I'm checking constantly for those short Windows of time where her profile is public! Honestly she is so milky!
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Noted; she's still a moron. (You'll have to forgive my initial skepticism, most munchies like to call mundane conditions by obscure or abstruse medical terms.)
Emma also exhibits quite a bit of institutionalization. She claims to crave what's the the IV drips she would get from the private clinic; whether it's the contents or simply having an IV line is left ambiguous, but I have a feeling she really like the attention of getting privatized care for Lyme and mono.
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Sweet Jesus! She bullshits the police too! So wrong. It looks like she was a "victim" in a hugely sick way! Even if something "happened" who the f would post a picture!? I need to do some investigating! This is too epic to leave as a mystery. And annoying thing I notice.. Munchies tell their story with hash tags! They try to act discreet and ashamed. Clearly she wanted to be asked "what happened to the poor girl?" Lying to the cops is huge. Anyone know about what this is about?
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It must be a "spoonies" right of passage to post a picture of pee. Read her post! Everyone is so done with her selfish bs. Well minus me! Her bs is almost fascinating. SMH
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I'll chill out with all the posting now! Sorry for the Kelly flood! K fine her MS is probably real, but why is she happy about? Nvm munchy. They love being diagnosed! And I zoomed in to a vid of hers, and name band says born 1992. She's too old for these games! I don't really understand ms, and all the diff terms used in this report. But I'd bet 100 bucks she has googled the shit out of it! K sorry for over posting
Gosh, Kelly, you finally have a (very tentative) semi diagnosis! Of course it's not some super serious special rare mysterious blood disorder. Just plain old MS. Bleh!
Then again, it might not be MS. The paper does say "concerning for" rather than "conclusive of". Sounds like the docs are going to keep her on the edge of her seat waiting for that sweet, sweet validation.
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Wtf! Haha what a mess she is! Obviously hates her self for what she is and does! One lie after another for this one!
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This article from 2016 says Kelly is 30? The blood bag says '82 the letter says '92? Why even lie about age? https://www.google.com/amp/globalnews.ca/news/2587368/kelowna-womans-undiagnosed-blood-disorder-baffles-doctors/amp/
Also, in the blurred part of the Dr's notes where it reads "child like in her speech and becomes easily upset when discouraged"
Is this real life? I really thought she was legit once, I think I need counseling for ever believing her problems (maybe not all of them, but definitely some) but weren't psychosomatic or self inflicted somehow. . .
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Kelly's fb! I'm noticing that she's had special mental health issues for ages! Didn't get her enough attention I guess… I can't look away! Should I piss off already Or what?!
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We should have her on her own personal crazy thread! This is getting crazy interesting!
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[[REMOVED]] 's medical document listing her DOB as 9/10/82…(Kelly's twin sister so unless [[REMOVED]] was born 7 days early…)(no personal info on family members)
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Post from when she was having reactions to the blood
good Lord. She's off the deep end. "safety" issues over her age?!
You can't fake the hospital dates/papers they check it with every unit of blood - it's 1982.
Wait, holy fuck, she's from Kelowna? She's 4 years older than me (if she's really 34) but I grew up just outside of Kelowna. I wonder if we have mutual friends. I hope so! I'm going to ask around and see if anyone knows her.
I love local milk. Support BC dairy.
Unhelpfully, Wiktionary gave me:
"appearing or taking place every two weeks or twice a week"
Either way, she's taking up a HUGE chunk of her local blood reserves.
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Did anyone else see this??!! It's gone now. It's so hard to know what to do about the safety safety … I didn't cry wolf every other day maybe if believe hee
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I have only seen them all blurred out! All it takes is one slip. Poor shmuk.I thought she was like 18-20 lol!!! I wonder what other bdays she has!
Thanks for the milk anon, but would you kindly lay off all the exclamation marks, mmmmkay? It makes it sound as if you were 10 years old, and we all know you can't be under 18 to post here. Thank you.
Sage for pet-peeve
On second thought please go take ur ritalin and take a breath. You really are over-posting now. Your same-fag is massively showing.
Ironically, I am now same-fagging as well
Sage for samefag
>>353356> Haha I shouldn't even think twice hey>hey
Confirmed for British Columbian or Albertan.
R u Kelly?
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I mean, joking to the extent that I reported your posts to the site admin to see if you're located in Kelowna too. I sincerely hope you're not Kelly, although part of me hopes that you are because it would pretty much confirm that her 34-year-old ass is malingering.
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Could the dead 34-year-old fetus in her brain be the cause of her obvious learning disability?
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We know Kelly used to self-harm. She stopped when she 'got sick', and claims she now has 'alternatives' to self harm. What if Munchieing is her maladaptive coping response?
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sage if this has already been posted but i checked her instagram and it hasn't…i think this was the saga she went to the ER for and it was absolutely nothing
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part 2…the dramatics increase
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and part 3 of this trilogy
I am curious about the image that went along with this. Are her scars that dramatic?>>353433
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Dramatic is relative, but they are not paper cuts.
There's an extremely revealing aspect to this that Kelly might have ignored. she might just have given the solution to her own mystery.
You see, there are basically two kinds of anemia - one where you lose blood (hypovolemic anemia) and one where you just don't have the cells you need to keep you going (such as aplastic or hemolytic anemias). Now, aplastic anemia simply means you don't produce enough to keep up with the natural death rate of blood cells. Hemolytic anemia means something is attacking your red blood cells and breaking them into little pieces. Both of these are slow gradual processes - it takes at least the lifespan of RBCs (6 days give or take) to have a noticeable effect.
Now, as your blood counts start to slowly go down, you start to experience tingling and numbness. That's because your body is no longer adequately supplied with oxygen. Your muscles become weak and feel like they're on fire.
But if you simply suddenly suck a shitload of blood out of your port and replace it with fluids (or not) then go and have a transfusion (if she had the transfusions without sucking out the blood, she would have iron overload and get seriously sick, also seriously tan!), you don't necessarily experience these symptoms long enough to be aware of them. Which means that if these symptoms are new enough to Kelly to make her scared about having a stroke, she probably does not have a long slow onset anemia. Which proves the Farmer's Hypothesis of her using her port to bleed herself.
What a fucking selfish trainwreck. One lie piled on top of another, and for what? Because cutting didn't get her enough attention and having a mysterious disease where your blood disappears without a trace (and I do mean that… most anemias leave some evidence - hemolytic anemias can be detected by looking for the waste products of hemolysis, aplastic anemias can be detected by looking at immature cells and reticulocytes in the bloodstream as well as bone marrow biopsies which she has had, as far as I'm aware) is so much more exciting.
There's a tiny part of me that feels sorry for her - she could have a much better life if only she got help and fixed her evidently long standing and complex psychiatric issues. She is still young and she can still have a life and she can do so without having to hurt herself. At the same time, I understand that she fears that because of the blood she has used up that could have been needed for someone else, she would be judged. That's between her and her shrink, I just hope she gets the help she needs because this is not good for anyone,
She took it down the minute some of her followers started questioning why her d/o/b is a "safety" issue .. the girl (over) shares everything in public domain, I mean if there was a true safety issue you think she'd stfu
Sage for another Kelly post
Wow, damn. Those are pretty serious scars. Well, one thing is certain: she is certainly capable of hurting herself. I do feel sad that she is suffering with mental issues, but am no less livid that she sucks up critical, limited medical resources in her current medfuckery. She really does need help; just not the kind she thinks she needs.>>353452
Pseudomedfag detected. Please don't.
>it takes at least the lifespan of RBCs (6 days give or take) to have a noticeable effect.
No. Red blood cell lifespan is ~115 days anon. RBC maturation via erythropoiesis takes ~6. Lern moar.
>You see, there are basically two kinds of anemia - one where you lose blood (hypovolemic anemia) and one where you just don't have the cells you need to keep you going
No. There are more than 2 kinds of anemia; the most common of which you have neglected altogether (deficiency-related malformations anyone?).
>Now, as your blood counts start to slowly go down, you start to experience tingling and numbness. That's because your body is no longer adequately supplied with oxygen. Your muscles become weak and feel like they're on fire.>you don't necessarily experience these symptoms long enough to be aware of them. Which means that if these symptoms are new enough to Kelly to make her scared about having a stroke, she probably does not have a long slow onset anemia.
The fuck? I don't even know where to begin with this. These symptoms (paresthesias, etc.) are related to acute panic attack sequelae; not those typically experienced from anemia. Further, you would not have a 'grace period' between exsanguination and transfusion before symptomatic onset. Just no.
I am certainly not white knighting Kelly; I am 99% sure she is exsanguinating…but I will call out bullshit "medfagging" when I see it.
You caught me cryface
Get ready for the debunking of your life…
1- ha, I got a wheelchair prior to dicharge (nhs)
2- Diamorphine manages pain rather well #floaty
3 - Bastard siezures knock my teeth out/take involuntary chunks out of my tongue/piss myself #suchfun
4 - Dammit I may be a munchie #mylifereallyISover
5 - Anaphalaxsis causes you to go blind minutes before shock renders you unconscious, it's horribly scary.
6 - End stage means exactly that. THERE ARE no fucking updates on instagram, there is no tomorrow on tumbler #buhbye world.
7 - when you're dying you have no idea you're dying, if you THINK you are you're probably not.
8 - I'm fucking angry. Munchies can fuck right off you bastards.
Written with love from fucking jealous cunt, although you are correct about the no life thing, I can concede that one… I straight up love this thread, check muh illness privilege.
Sage for ranty blog munchie rage, is the grass greener on the other side?? I may be off to pastures new… sorry!!!
LOL I had half of my response typed up when I saw this. This makes everyone seem dumb. Stop pseudomedfagging.
At the same time, it's painfully evident she has had a simple anxiety attack. All the more evidence her issues are primarily between the ears.
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One thing more reprehensible than fake spoonies? The 'alternative clinics' that prey on them with useless bullshit treatments. Case in point: the 'stem cell' injection for Lyme, which is absolute bollocks. No proven efficacy etc. but spoonies milk it like they just received a bone marrow transplant (confusingly also called a stem cell transplant, specifically a haematopoietic stem cell transplant).
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Oh Jesus the self pity.
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does anyone else find her behaviour very peculiar? i know when i'm at the ED the last thing on my mind is cracking jokes, making outrageous ballet poses, and bringing props. i'm there because i'm under severe distress and medical reasons. and the whole bringing a weight to the hospital to shame an anon who questioned her for working out when she claims to be so ill is so weird to me. i'm just so perplexed by her behaviour.
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sage for samefagging but this comment is so applicable
It's actually more mysterious that you CAN lift weight when you are as anaemic as you claim. Unless of course you're ok right up until you venesect yourself. Incidentally, having some time off my shift, I PubMed'd 'factitious illness' + 'venesection' and apparently it's far from rare and frequent in people with central vascular devices.
The whole thing feels a little like what people with eating disorders do. They bring weights into treatment or heavy objects to be able to exercise and burn off calories while doctors are desperately trying to get them to gain. At this point, I'm rather mystified why a hospital allows her to do this bullshit and even considered a hysterectomy (what's with that, Kelly?) before just putting her under a week of one on one in the psych ward where she belongs. For her own sake, I hope her doctors find this - there's no cows to tip anymore here and I strongly believe her medics should be informed of what she's doing before they maim her unnecessarily. I don't want any other doctors to have that on their conscience or professoinal indemnity insurance.
I actually have a close friend who started his nursing career at Kelowna General. I'm going to ask him why this bullshit is allowed.
Damn, I'm just so stoked about my local cow. She goes to the same church as my parents.
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In her fb there is an an album called "the way it's been" this nut already lived in a psych institution, it's called Hillside in kamloops B.C. I looked it up and it is for the worst of the worst. Wow Kelly. She documents it quite well. Interesting to check out for sure.
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She claims it was close to 2 years in psych. I'm mind blown. How have we missed so much?
Honestly, given the Munchhausens suspicion, they might just be concerned that if they start treating her as the mental case she is, she will just go to another hospital. At least here they have some degree of oversight over what she's up to and can track her. The biggest problem with Munchies is how they can 'get lost' to the system.
Medfagpowerlevel: the hospital I worked at had a frequent flyer who had hypoglycaemic seizures despite there really being no good reason for that (female, middle aged, normal weight, not diabetic, etc.). Eventually it turned out that she stole some of her elderly mother's insulin and injected herself to induce hypoglycaemia and seizures. Some of these were fairly serious, to the point of her needing fairly involved neurological rehabilitation at a national specialist centre (pretty expensive and hard to get).
Eventually a nurse found insulin and insulin syringes in her bag, together with some sux that she managed to steal from a crash cart (fuck only knows how). Her doctor, plus one of the SpRs and the consultant in charge of the unit as well as a psych SpR visited her in her room and told her that she was faking and they were visibly mad with her (a justified, but still highly contraindicated, reaction to discovering factitious illness). They offered her a psych stay. She discharged herself against medical advice and was lost to our radar. A year later, she was found dead of an insulin OD. She kept doing her stunts in different areas and at one point, she overdosed - intentionally or accidentally, nobody knew. What we did know is that perhaps if the news had been broken to her more gently and less accusatorily (or even not broken to her at all, see below), she might have lived.
A great comment on this from Jeffrey Keller MD, who runs a pretty popular blog on correctional medicine, might explain the hospital's approach (in the context of nonepileptic seizures aka pseudoseizures, but the points apply overall!):
> There are three problems with these patients who are, admittedly, faking their symptoms. The first problem is that the suspicion that a patient is faking their seizure invariably engenders lots of negative emotions like anger, frustration and contempt. These can not only ruin what might otherwise have been a fine day, but more importantly, they can (and do!) get in the way of good medical practice. If you are feeling angry and contemptuous towards your patient, you are unlikely to provide very stellar care for them.>> The second problem with “fakers” is that most of the time, you simply cannot know for sure whether this particular patient really is faking or not. As we have seen, psychogenic non-epileptic seizures are not fake—no more so than a panic attack or a headache. Responding to PNDS as “fakers” will be as effective as telling the woman with the panic attack to “stop faking.” It will be ineffective and counterproductive.>> The last problem with those truly faking their seizures is this: even if you are right and the patient truly is malingering, accusing them of faking will not usually make them stop. To the contrary, malingerers who are accused of faking tend to redouble their efforts to convince you that these are real!>> Fortunately, there is one very good solution to these problems and that is to not care whether the seizure/pseudoseizure is faked or not! In the long run, whether the patient is faking or not is irrelevant. Give up the judgmental attitude. You’ll feel better and, more importantly, you will practice better medicine.
> And keep this in mind: The single worst thing that you can do as a medical provider is to assume that a patient is faking—and be wrong. If you have done this and the patient ends up having a bad outcome, you are toast. Do not take this risk with something as hard to sort out as seizures/pseudoseizures.
> Instead, remember what your overall medical goal is in these cases:
> You want the seizure-like activity to stop. You want the patient to stop having them in the future.
> Whether these are true epileptic seizures or PNES or malingering, it doesn’t matter. You want them to stop happening. And the first key to achieving this goal is to give up the labels (“Faker!”) and give up the emotion (“Jerk!”). These attitudes get in the way of achieving your goal—having the seizure-like episodes stop.
Sage for lots of medfagging.
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I am pretty damn sure she is not bleeding a unit a week (a pint of blood or so, assuming unit sizes are the same in Canaduh) from her uterus without someone noticing. That's 70ml or two shots of blood a day. It's not something she wouldn't notice.
It's quite telling that her hematocrit is so incredibly low. It's almost as if she were in isovolaemic anaemia, which we see a lot in people who lost a lot of blood but did not get a transfusion (we do not routinely transfuse above a Hgb of 9).
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i think they already have. she has previously made numerous posts about her "mistreatment" at hospitals, talking about how professionals have suggested she's faking, and she did up and leave the hospital.
Any medfag to explain how bladder retention would work? If there's no blockage and they could get a tube up there to empty it, where the problem would be?
(Damn, that's some munchie dedication if she was just holding it up all the time. It's uncomfortable af and so is a fucking catheter being inserted and removed every day)
Judging by that, they have concluded she has an anaemia that responds only to transfusions but is not of any recognized medical origin. In other words - they know there's nothing wrong with her and are now passing the buck trying to see who can/will talk her out of this nonsense.
I would not be shocked if she started to escalate some other condition, such as her fake MS (the MRI is very inconclusive… spots suggestive of demyelination happen in healthy people too!).
I worry for her. Please Kelly if you read this, please please please come clean with your docs. You are young. You can have a long and happy life with Chompy and the rest. They deserve better than losing you because one day you go too far. Get off instagram, tell your doctors what you did. They won't be mad. They'll try to help you. Just, please come clean.
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she's already had a bone marrow aspiration. unless she's some rare, rare 1 in 7.5 billion, i'm confused as to how they haven't identified what's wrong with her
Well. OK, but it's still would have been really uncomfortable to have that much in. Plus the whole catheter thing. It's kinda painful and really humiliating to have a doctor look at your snatch to find a peepeehole.
But then again, maybe it's nice if you're attention starved enough. Who knows.
She apparently needs the attention, any attention, all the attention. All the time. Nothing is ever enough.
Last year when she had urinary retention she left the hospital because they didn't believe all her issues, and she was taught to self-cath and was catheterizing herself at home. Then just recently she had urinary retention again, and made a big deal about having to have a home nurse teach her how to self cath. Again. When she had been taught and was doing it successfully. She seemed gleefully happy about having to go through the humiliating teaching process. When she had already been taught and done it. And NO ONE called her on it. Either her followers don't pay attention, or nobody stays with her long enough to catch her repetitive issues.
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I mean no one talks about how many photos she takes doing this either. I get wanting to crack jokes like a normal person, but I legitimately think she enjoys being there. Who takes that many photos of themselves prancing around a hospital doing ballet? Half of the munchies in this thread look miserable, and then she's doing this.
Trust me, even if some fragments are true, the overall picture is a big fat lie. -
And you do not need a port to exsanguinate yourself. As a cutter, she would know where to cut to bleed like a fucking pig. And that's just one example of a dozen ways she could have done it. I'm really uneasy discussing other particular methods lest she takes it as a suggestion.
My money is on childhood trauma. The doctor describes her as friendly but almost child-like in the 'cat collection' note. Her voice is like a child's. She never talks about her childhood. Maybe her traumatic childhood meant she never experienced a supportive, loving, fostering atmosphere and is trying to recreate it by turning herself into a constant patient, surrounded by the caring of doctors and support of a virtual fan community worldwide. Many MBI and Munchhausens people have a similar traumatic background.
Doesn't surprise me. It's pretty obvious she lurks this thread. >>353640
Let's not do the whole BPD debate, it brings out the tumblerinas with BPD who lurk here who defend themselves until their throats are raw. If anything she shows signs of HPD.
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JBN in A&E - but doesn't want to be admitted bc she has therapy this week though she's been 3 times in less than 2 was so I'm sure she will be this time! Also check out the tube she's hinting towards in her post! Maybe she's feeling unloved due to lack of mention here …
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Samefagging here, but yup. Also I'd love to know who "revealed" themself, kek.
I don't know, because she referenced >>353642
that post, and not the one who was talking about being local to her here >>353529
. Who knows.
If she can't see the board anymore the helpful admin blocked her kek >>353642
Coulda worded that better, in some people's eyes that could be taken the wrong way and there seriously was no need to even mention Kadee
Then why are you here? This imageboard is entirely speculation, and direct evidence or "milk" that the cows post themselves. We speculate based on that. So I don't know why you're here newfag. This board is speculation on who is a munchie. I've reported your posts and I encourage others to do, because this garbage is retarded.>>353735
Kek, exactly anon.
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Another Emma post– here it shows how Breakspear allows munchies like Emma to design their own treatment plan. By creating "vaccines" that include shit like vegetables, spices, and random vitamins.
I just… I have no words. I'm partly gleeful that this shitty private clinic is clearly catering to the most neurotic of the histrionic heath group, and partly horrified it's actually considered treatment.
But Emma is also being an attention mongering nimrod with the whole "ooo I'm like a kid out of school, tee-hee!" ft. Lyme but not really Lyme, look at my ana body.
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Accidentally deleted. Right, so how does any of that work, at all? I'm assuming she's hinting at pressing charges, but there are many people here from many countries and cities. That, and there are so many websites like this that exist, and most of these are just literal observations. Sure, some of them are nasty personal digs, but for the most part this is a general discussion of observations?
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Besides the person who poorly worded a post,(>>353642) Kelly's profile is not private and is on so called public domain (the World Wide Web is not your personal diary) even the poorly worded post makes no direct threat, no threats have been made, we are just stating our opinions after observation, there are no copyright infringements etc. (you can't just put a "c" or "tm" on your stuff and think that copyrights it, there's paperwork to fill out and it takes quite awhile kek) The server for lolcow is in some little unknown foreign country most likely, and people posting here are scattered all over, so unless she has an exact name with actual bullying that involved a threat of some sort, the police will tell her there is not much she can actually do! They'd be annoyed for wasting their time!>>353642
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Top kek. No one is bullying anyone here. Observations of inconsistencies in a person's posts on their very public profile is anyone's domain. And last time I checked, Kelly was doing ballet in the hospital, not just smiling. Nobody said it's not okay to smile in the hospital, but when I'm doubled over in pain and/or generally in bad enough shape that I need to go to the ER, I'm not going to be prancing around doing ballet.
I mean, at this point the cops are going to see that she's posting herself anonymously.
She's already wasting a lot of medical resources. I truly think she's selfish enough to post a whole bunch of horrid comments about herself just so she can report them to the police and launch an investigation. The problem with that idea is that the police don't fuck around, they're not stupid, and if they do investigate this, they'll just end up investigating her.
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Suicide was mentioned because Kadee, a person posted on here, killed herself from an accidental overdose. Go WK elsewhere.
She's definitely not the only person who lives in Kelowna who posts here, but she's the only person who lives in Kelowna who posts here with that particular typing style and desire for attention. I noticed she took a screenshot of one of the posts in her typing style that Admin pointed out as coming from Kelowna and posted it on her Facebook. This makes me think that she hasn't actually gone to the cops, and that this is yet another one of her ploys for sympathy that is ultimately going to backfire once her supporters realize that she's doing it all herself. She also wrote on her Facebook, in response to someone asking whether or not the site was taken down, "With suicide there is 0 tolerance". There were no mentions of suicide, though, except for a very inappropriate dig at Kadee Konstantino, who accidentally overdosed and did not actually commit suicide.
I have a feeling that this is going to backfire horribly for Kelly.
Awww shit. Did you watch Netflix again… schizophrenia is kinda the mental illness du jour and bang on topic with the whole pronoun shit being flung around. For the love of all things munchie say it ain't so… it can't end like this. The tumbler cry of 2017 "did you just assume my identity???"
Extra sage for schizo points rage.
At least learn how to reply to posts properly if you're gonna whiteknight so insistently.
Word to the wise: The shit you're doing will only annoy the nastiest members and they will start doing worse shit. You are making things worse.
Since Kelly is advertising this site to her supporters on Facebook, take a good look at the way confirmed-Kelly posts have spelled the words "munchausen" as "munchhausen" and "munchie" as "munchy".
Note that one of those posts, as well as this (>>353642) post from Kelowna in her similar typing style, mention having been here for quite some time.
I don't know about you, but to me it looks like Kelly's been cyberbullying other people and pretending that she's being cyberbullied. I hope it isn't true, but the evidence is pretty compelling. Of course, that'll probably be up to the police to decide.
It's funny that one of the posts from her area ( >>353184
) also mentions that she's been bullshitting the police. If they trace this back to her phone or computer (which the police can absolutely do if admin gives them the IP address that these were posted with), not only will they probably charge her for cyberbullying, but they'll also charge her for filing a false report- maybe even two. And if she's defrauded charities or the church? She's got fraud charges on top of that.
I'm sure the cops will also be aware that before she was Kelly Ronahan, she went by Kelly Petrovich, which is also public domain since that name is linked to her current Facebook account, as well as mentioned as image credit in this news article: https://www.kelownanow.com/watercooler/news/news/Central_Okanagan/15/12/21/Kelowna_Woman_Thanks_Those_Who_Donated_for_Her_55_Blood_Transfusions/
Of course, this is just speculation, and I'm sure her followers and the cops will be able to deduce the truth.
I think Petrovich is her real last name. Googling [[REMOVED]]
me this: [[REMOVED]]
if you look at the picture, it's a carbon copy of Kelly since they're twins.(no personal info on family members)
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>>353800>Munchhausen>Implying Kadee killed herself
Kelly, you are just digging yourself further down into this hole. You need to quit before you end up damaging your reputation beyond repair. I'm serious. This is just a gossip site. We're discussing and speculating on things that you have made public. None of us want to ruin anyone else's life. I think you want us to want to harm you, but we don't.
Why are you actively sabotaging yourself? We know you're self posting. Your friends know you're self posting. The RCMP knows you're self posting. What is the goal here? I know you want attention, but are criminal charges and possible jail really the kind of attention you want?
Kelly also follows those people that the posts in here are about. I just looked. If that's the truth, that she has been posting in here, wow.
I still don't understand how the police would ever get involved in this, as mentioned before, this is all public domain?
>>353812>"nitpicks and bullying"
very similar to >>353724
sage for samefagging
Further googling [[REMOVED]]
Petrovich (sorry [[REMOVED]]
, you don't deserve to be dragged along your crazy sister's train wreck) reveals an old MySpace page, which confirms the birth date to be '82. [[REMOVED]](no personal info on family members)
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This thread is fucking cancer level retarded now. Can't wait for the police to show up at my house so I can say "I have the right to free speech and my opinion about things publicly posted online" and to show them that you're posting in here too, but enjoy wasting resources for us. Anyway, I'm out. This fuckjob was cute for a giggle, but now it's full on psycho. I'll leave this image for the WKers and Kelly who's probably lurking hardcore.
Oh and here's a good example of another website that came under fire and is still running: http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/hamilton/news/the-dirty-on-truth-freedom-of-speech-and-online-shaming-1.3063308