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No. 355530

Over-The-Top Spoonies/Munchausen By Internet Attention Whores General #5
Previous Thread: >>>snow/345089

Discuss people who feign or exaggerate chronic illnesses and medical crises for attention and asspats online. Previous topic focused primarily on Instagram accounts, but posts from blogs and other social media sites are admissible.

Some of the more notable cows from the previous threads:
LifeUndiagnosedd, aka Hypermobilegeek on IG (and a shit ton more accounts). Robyn Brown is the milkiest munchiechan we've ever seen ("Kadeelyn on steroids" as another anon put it) and has her own threads now (original: >>197138 ).
MyLifeStruggles on IG
JourneyToEmma on IG
Jonzie08 on IG

What Is A "Spoonie"?
People who identify as 'Spoonies' are referencing 'The Spoon Theory,' written by a woman with lupus to explain the chronic illness experience to a healthy friend who asked her what it really feels like to live with her medical problems.
https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/
The 'Spoonie' Community is, in general, a legitimate supportive network for people dealing with chronic illness. In recent years, however, it has become polluted with SJW types and has attracted a new breed of attention-seeking catfish: people who lie about, fake having, and/or exaggerate existing medical problems and crises for no benefit other than to garner attention.

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This is actually Munchies 6.

Munchies 1: >>181656
Munchies 2: >>201162
Munchies 3: >>237479
Munchies 4: >>300611
Munchies 5: >>345089

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Since we have a lot of new users, here is some related material to catch up on and familiarize yourself with the people discussed here.

Fake Anorexics
(They overlap quite a bit with the Munchausen by Internet cows due to the ease in faking an eating disorder)
Original thread: >>44088
Second thread: >>74624
Third thread: >>79031
Fourth thread: >>83974
Fifth thread: >>89109
Sixth thread: >>94114
Seventh thread: >>99329
Eighth thread: >>106059
Ninth thread: >>112288
Tenth thread: >>117640
11th: >>120427
12th: >>123455
13th: >>>/manure/798
14th: >>134257
15th: >>208597
16th: >>243674

Ashley Isaacs

First: >>>/pt/21279
Second: >>>/pt/32362
Third: >>>/pt/34685
4th: >>>/pt/40939
5th: >>>/pt/66250
6th: >>>/pt/76718
7th: >>>/pt/81899
8th: >>>/pt/89979
9th: >>>/pt/94146
10th: >>>/pt/99602
11th: >>>/pt/106778
12th: >>>/pt/145748
13th: >>>/pt/155743
14th: >>>/pt/197629
15th: >>>/pt/208348
16th: >>>/pt/224122
17th: >>>/pt/245724
18th: >>144651
18th: >>160803
19th: >>241927


Aly_Realrecover
First: >>>/pt/101158
Second: >>>/pt/121883
Third: >>>/pt/127911
4th: >>>/pt/131511
5th: >>>/pt/138697
6th: >>>/pt/146319
7th: >>>/pt/159243
8th: >>25478
9th: >>33022
10th: >>42283
11th: >>48258
12th: >>56772
13th: >>64095
14th: >>73958
15th: >>91978
16th: >>124275
17th: >>223291

Kadeelyn Konstantino
>>123694
>>140393
>>155642
>>241176

Robyn Brown
>>197138
>>215012

Crying Emily
>>158800

Multiple System Tumblrinas
>>109130

No. 355552


No. 355658

I'm collating a few odd things from MyBlondeVoyage's Instagram stories that clash with her naturopathic woo approach. Will post in a couple hours.

No. 355682

Any farmer feel like making a list of the main people from the last thread? And any who were mentioned but neglected due to even milkier cows coming up.

I would do it but I'm lazy af.

No. 355688

Why is the link to Kadee's stuff still up there? She's passed away, let it go.

No. 355715

Kelly made an album on her facebook filled with screencaps from the last thread, I honestly can't at her behavior at this point. Kelly, you're 34 years old, I urge you to give up this ridiculous attention seeking crap. Once you let it go, we'll let it go.

No. 355723

At this point, even her most devoted followers must worry about her mental health…

No. 355726

Going through the old threads is a hoot. Some of them even mention Kelly but at the time, farmers believed she really was sick, bwahahah.

No. 355735

I noticed while lurking in the last thread hat someone mentioned that if Kelly really had something wrong (in reference to MS or her anemia) she would have declining eye sight. So of course in her most recent IG post she mentions that she's noticed she has declining eyesight..

No. 355746

I'm working on posting a bunch of shit about Chronically Jacquie which until I scrolled back through I did not realize she was another seizure epilepsy unknown vomiting muchie cow prior to hopping over to the EDS train.

No. 355764

>>355723

With the amount she's posting on social media dedicated to 'bringing this site down' and showing off all the posts talking about her, if I had no idea what was going on I'd start to question it myself. It's hilarious that she thinks she and a handful of people can get this website shut down though…like boo fucking hoo, someone said something about me on the internet! Wahhhh!!

No. 355770

>>355726

Ok, time for a confession, and sort of to explain why I am here.

I used to follow Kelly. I have a bone marrow disorder myself, a long term after effect of chemotherapy, and I developed an MS-like disorder (neuromyelitis optica) a few years ago. While a lot of details felt weird, I believed her, even if the medic in me thought 'fuck, that's bullshit'.

The more I look at it, the more foolish and suckered I feel. It is an incredible feeling - it messes with your head - it makes you think about whether you're even fit to have any judgment about people - and it makes it hard to trust anyone.

So I deleted every spoonie except the two or three people I know for a fact are legit from my contact lists. For the last week or so, I have been walking around with a sort of nauseous feeling, disgusted and embarrassed by what happened.

Kelly's white knights come here and tell me I'm pathological for being concerned with her lies and I should 'get a life'. I've called in sick for the last few days as I have had such serious doubts about my ability to make clinical judgments that I didn't trust myself with my work. I toyed with the idea of quitting altogether. I haven't slept properly and I have barely eaten. My girlfriend is worried sick and I don't trust myself to explain this to her without sounding foolish.

But yeah, I should just get a life, right? While the girl whom I have given advice about MS has used what I said to construct her deception.

A part of me wishes I had never found this site. A larger part of me wishes I had found it sooner, before she suckered me into donating to her shitty fundraiser (hey, I don't believe in woo, but I do believe in the placebo effect, especially for something as complex as a neuroimmune disorder!), before I believed her, before I watched with worry when she had her seizures, before I reblogged some of her posts, before I took this fraud seriously.

And I'm nothing, I'm nowhere compared to people these sociopathic fucks sucker into their lives and strangle them with the threat of deterioration should they attempt to leave. This is not a harmless game! This is not online role playing! There are gullible fucks like me who take some of these assholes seriously and are genuinely emotionally affected by the childish drama they thrive on.

Fuck all of you whining Munchie fucks. Fuck all of you to hell and back.

No. 355782

>>355735

Declining eyesight from MS has a pretty particular pattern and in MS, it never happens on its own. In general, for RRMS, eyesight worsens during flares due to optic neuritis and recovery is sometimes incomplete. This is opposed to 'just declining eyesight'. Also, the decline is pretty rapid - I have an MS-like condition that shares the optic neuritis part with MS, and I've had flares where I went almost completely blind within hours. Also, declining eyesight due to MS is not detectable on an eye exam as it's not a refractive error, though the decreased visual field can be seen when testing for visual fields.

No. 355784

>>355770
Honestly it was Kelly posting about this site that made me realize how full of it she is. The fact that she is literally obsessing about what.. probably 20… 50 people maximum talking shit about her in a forum? And trying to get it shut down? These forums never get shut down. I don't even know how I found her on IG. She uses so many hashtags so that she has a ton of exposure on IG to get the attention she wants. I honestly can't believe how insane I am realizing she is now.

No. 355792

>>355770
Welcome to the dark side. I'm glad you saw the light and I hope more people do figure out that Kelly is just a big ole faker.

No. 355794

>>355770
I too came here after another person leaked this page and I questioned every "spoonie" on my list deleted and unfollowed most of them including the majority of the spoonie communities because there are way too many over dramatic cows and it wasn't helping me to follow them.

No. 355803

Irl I know so many people who have this same issue too. At least 3 of my friends have "chronic pain". This has always pissed me off because I know how bs it is. Living hurts.. sometimes you wake up and you slept weird, sometimes your arm hurts for no reason. I'm not sure if chronic pain is a legitimate disorder but as far as I think now it's just another bs way for attention and meds

No. 355806

>>355770

Honestly I came here after I myself was posted about. It made me look at things differently and the way I was using my instagram, so I stopped hashtagging everything, stopped posting about my illnesses, and now i can hardly stand to even look at other spoonie accounts because it infuriates me. No one needs to know every single moment of your life. No one needs to know when you take a shit.

No. 355808

>>355803
People have chronic pain due to medical conditions that's really not what's been the question. It's the people who are in the spot light all me me me me that are faking it so they get attention and bringing light to that. The conditions these people fake make it hard for people who actually have these conditions to get help right away due to the fakers before them.

No. 355813

>>355807
I'm so sick of people saying EDS is fatal. It's fucking not. It can be super shitty at times but it's not fatal. I can't wait till there is a new bandwagon for them to all jump onto and leave my illness alone.

No. 355818

>>355807

You can be so buy checking how much money your gofuckme has gotten that you step into the street and get hit by a car and die… also fatal

No. 355819

>>355813

Vascular EDS is often fatal due to things like aortic dissection. But it's detectable by genetic testing, and really rare.

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MyBlondeVoyage

Breakspear seems to combine prescribing standard drugs alongside naturopathic/herbal ones. Drug interactions between herbal remedies and standard medications are not very well documented.

> lithium for glandular fever whut?


> now claims to have Lyme-induced bipolar disorder


> encouraging followers to get tested for Lyme based on vague symptoms

No. 355828

>>355819
Yes true but all these cows usually go with hyper mobile type because it's the only one that doesn't have any genetic testing. Which when I actually went to see a geneticist I wasn't even there to confirm anything I was like sooooooo a surgeon sent me. My OT surgeon sent me there on a hunch after sewing me back together for several tendon ruptures that happened over almost nothing.

Sage for blogging

No. 355829

>>355807

God bless our nurses. They must have Munchie detectors implanted in nursing school.

No. 355833

>>355828

Here in the UK we don't usually get seen by geneticists for hEDS unless we're planning on having kids.

Also despite it being a new munchie thing, it's also a really hard condition to be diagnosed with unless a parent or sibling also has it. I had "unspecified joint pain" for years until I got a referral to an actual EDS specialist (of which there are very few here).

> saged for blogging

No. 355836

>>355819
Also, vascular EDS (the only fatal type, no matter what munchies say) gives people a unique look and is therefore almost always diagnosed by the age of 2

No. 355839

>>355803

Chronic pain is not a disorder, it is a symptom. It literally just means 'pain lasting more than X months', where X is anything between 1 and 12, depending on whom you ask.

That covers a lot. From blown discs to malignancies through nerve pain disorders, where nerves misfire to cause pain sensations, there are plenty of legit chronic pain diagnoses. The big problem with chronic pain fakers (drug seekers and pity seekers alike) is that they create the response you adopted, that is, a disbelief in the reality of the condition itself.

No. 355841

>>355836

FUCKING THIS.

Nothing is funnier than overweight, short, stubby-armed, short-fingered people claiming a disorder associated with Marfanoid habitus - tall, thin, wiry and with long, thin fingers (arachnodactyly, as fingers resemble the thin legs of a spider).

No. 355843

>>355833

I wonder what the next trendy condition will be. It used to be PTSD. Then Lyme. Then GP. Now it's EDS, which allows them to integrate GP into the picture. Any bets on what's next?

(My money is on PANDAS. OMG acquired autism!)

No. 355847

>>355841

I'm short, fat and have EDS (weight gain from immobility due to illness). A classic Marfanoid Habitus is something that is associated with it, but not necessarily shared by everyone with the condition. I still have very long arms, fingers and torso though.

No. 355851

>>355847

What type of EDS do you have, though? Marfanoid habitus is almost 100% among vEDS.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 355853

>>355851

Hypermobile type. My diagnostic specialist took all my measurements anyway, "for research".

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>>355530
This came up on my insta feed lately.
I don't know how we ended up following each other, but she always seemed really OTT.

No. 355856

>>355855
I think the thing that fucks me off most about these people is how they're like, at least as bad as your average 50 year old at understanding how the internet works. They've linked to a specific thread, they think it's the entire website lmao.

No. 355857

>>355856
They also think that linking the thread isn't going to just make more people go to that thread.
This one changes usernames a lot, and went to a convention literally the day after being in the ER. And abuses those hashtags in every post, which is what really made me wonder ultimately.

No. 355866

>>355857

Kek,the video she posted of her and her Mom fighting? Why do these people act as if they are 12?

No. 355875

>>355827
From what I've heard, natural "treatments" are usually diluted or cut down to pretty much nothing so nobody gets sued over somebody doing something stupid.

No. 355876

>>355841
VEDS also causes very translucent skin, which is part of the reason kids are diagnosed very young (with genetic testing after being suspected). I'm tall-ish and thin with hypermobile type, but my skin looks normal. Also these cows take criteria and associated conditions from different types of EDS and say they have them when it's medically impossible. Drives me crazy, but whatever, they're just showing how dumb they are. But EDS is easy to claim because it's invisible, except all the things these munchie insist on (braces, wheelchair, dogs, etc.). TBH, a lot of doctors discourage braces and mobility aides because they can be detrimental (less exercise leads to weaker muscles, which makes joints looser). Munchies love turning illnesses into fashion statements that people can give them attention and pity for.

Sage for blogging

No. 355878

>>355866

In the video she also states something like, "she did the research,she found out she was sick, she diagnosed herself"
(and then she called the doctors so they could talk to her mommy?) GTFOH - You're an adult, so you're "sick" be thankful you have someone there who cares enough to help you, stop yelling and acting like an entitled spoiled brat!

Sage: annoyed

No. 355879

>>355855

Ah yes, I posted this one here because she claimed to have 3 kinds of EDS at once.

No. 355894

I have a serious question, and sorry if it is a retarded one. What does "raising awareness for sooper speshul dizeezus" supposed to accomplish anyway? I never understood the whole "awareness" schtick unless it is to raise money anyway. Do any other anons have a take on this that i am not seeing please? Thanks.

Sage for possible retarded question

No. 355895

>>355807
You're born with chiari malformation, you don't "get" it. Your skull doesn't just change shape randomly. These people are legit stupid.

No. 355898

>>355894

Raising awareness can increase instance of early diagnosis, e.g: testicular cancer, breast cancer campaigns emphasize the importance of self-checking. Lyme disease awareness includes teaching the importance of checking for ticks/taking precautions.

In many cases, awareness campaigns can be aimed at medical professionals because some things (inc. EDS, MCAS) were very rarely diagnosed when some docs qualified so they won't know much about them (even now, med school gives you like a single day on connective tissue disorders).

TBH I think one of the most useful "raising awareness" areas is pointing out to able-bodied people how important access is to those with disabilities. It's often overlooked despite the ADA etc.

No. 355903

>>355898

less helpful "awareness": Nicole holding up piece of paper with a disease written on it while wearing her pageant sash.

No. 355910

>>355770
Kelly posted on IG about this comment and is sobbing her absolute mind out. I really hope that girl doesn't committ suicide over some gossip. Get a grip Kelly, you're 34 years old. If you cannot handle the internet, log off, and book more sessions with your psychiatrist or therapist or something.

No. 355912

>>355910
She's the one who self-posted here, so no sympathy.

No. 355913

>>355910

Screenshot, please

No. 355920

>>355807

i saw it on her fb but it's hilarious that she's crying so hysterically, but she could crosspost it (or record it for IG and share it to fb)

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>>355913
I just cannot comprehend how a 34 year old woman has nothing better to do with her time than to be so wrapped up in the internet and its mindless gossip. Sure, some farmers are a little harsh, but god, you'd think someone had told her to off herself or something. Why not just delete and take a break from the internet? It's so wild to me how people are so addicted to social media in this way and cannot handle criticism with so many followers. She has 18k or so followers and expects everyone to like her. It's so baffling to me. Maybe I'm just the crazy one.

No. 355922

I honestly don't understand why she's so upset, considering she posted herself here, so she obviously wanted us to discuss her.

No. 355925

>>355922

Because she wanted people to be "Oh, no she's obviously not faking, she's definitely super sick and special".

No. 355926

>>355925

Or she wanted to get attention from being "internet bullied".

No. 355927

>>355550
How is Ashley isaacs a munchie?¿

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No. 355930

>>355921
Honestly doesn't even look like real crying. Just another attention-whoring post, always playing the victim

No. 355934

Kelly, I urge you to seek help. This sobbing in response to online gossip is deeply alarming. This is the internet and unfortunately it is harsh, cruel, and full of trolls. But you're 34 years old, and you're letting a group of people (who are just gossiping) get you wound up into hysterics. If you're becoming this wound up over social media like this, perhaps you need to take a break away from all of it for a bit. It's the internet. I'm trying to be as nice as possible: if you cannot handle it, or the criticism that comes with having that many followers then you need to think about if you want that account anymore, or maybe you just want a break until you can come back and ignore the gossip. Online gossip happens to every public (your profile originally was public) figure with a large following. Just take a break and figure it out, but this screaming and crying and relentless posting just makes you look so much more guilty of self-posting and doing this for attention.

Sage for trying to have a heart? Idk

No. 355935

>>355934
Also feel free to come at me for it. I honestly don't know why I suddenly felt the need to say all that. It just rubs me the wrong way when people can easily delete their accounts but they cry about being harassed when the delete button is right there. Especially past the age of 16.

No. 355937


No. 355941

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Please take a break from the computer, Kelly. All this stress isn't worth it.

No. 355947

What about @linuxtiger ? What do y'all think of her. Wait I mean "him" hahah

No. 355948

>>355947

IMAGE board. Post some milk!

No. 355952

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He barely even posts anything anymore XD it's like he gave up trying to look sick. Haha obviously wasn't getting the attention he needed haha. But he still posts stories up like this one lol.

No. 355953

>>355952

I had a brief look. I suspect he's both legit sick, but also exaggerating some parts for asspats. Also re: the GoFundMe - any Ausfags here care to explain how healthcare works over there?
And medfags - why would this kid need IV saline as vital medication?

No. 355955

>>355953

i haven't looked at his IG but if he has POTS, iv saline is used as a treatment to help lower your heart rate and blood pressure, thus keeping your symptoms in control.

not a medfag, just a person with POTS who's on iv saline.

No. 355956

>>355955

IV saline would LOWER blood pressure? Surely that's not what most people with POTS need? (I have hyper-POTS, because wtf body.)
Saged, obviously.

No. 355957

kellys crying that ~*someone hacked muh instagram guyzzz*~

No. 355958

>>355956

WHOOPS typo, i meant up your BP! with my pots my bp is low and the saline keeps it at a more normal range, ie i usually run 80's or 90's but i get so shocked when i see it in the 120's

sage for blogging

No. 355972

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What exactly is the horrible stuff that's been said? Some OPINIONS are harsher than others, but all that been done is question the authenticity of what she has posted (how sick she actually is) and the people-like myself- who believed her at first but then things she said weren't adding up…did I miss something?

No. 355975

>>355972

I'm wondering the same? I'm like you - followed her for awhile until things started to not add up anymore. If you're friends with her on FB, she literally made an album of around 60 screenshots from the last thread and people are oozing with sympathy with her.

It should be noted that her instagram is completely normal. kek.

No. 355976

>>355975
Yeah, she's a skilled manipulator who feeds on sympathy and attention. If you're really upset by something, are you really going to make a video for the world to see? No normal person does that.

No. 355978

Kelly is so full of shit! She alternates between "someone hacked my account/stole infoz!" and "my account is public, I have nothign to hide!" Literally, reading though the last thread, anons were noting things like "she's public again, she's private again" but she has been posting like she's always been private and people are stealing things? Bitch PLEASE.
I think she is freaking out because she knows she's been called out on her bullshit. Guilty conscience much? Kelly remember when your nurses wanted to deaccess your port when they sent you home? And how it always clogged the next day? Clinical insight: they suspected you were tampering with it. Sorry but it's the obvious answer, along with no possible medical explination for your vanishing blood. Your tests have r/o blood disorders. If you have uterine fibroids, this does not indicate the need for a hysterectomy as an early line of treatment, that's why docs don't want to do it. There is no reason you cannot have a D and C with ablation. You're young, why do you want the most extreme treatment so badly? At the vey least your shit is highly suspicious. Your reaction to that suspicion is very telling. Could you be any more over-the-top in your response to criticism? We are far from the first who have noticed that something is rotten in Demark. Fuck me. This one makes me rage.

No. 355980

>>355978

I always wondered why her doctors would jump to a full hysterectomy IMMEDIATELY in someone so young. Isn't that incredibly radical? I mean they won't even check me for infertility and a friend of mine who has severe PCOS had to fight for 3 years for a hysterectomy because they told her 'you're in you're early 30's and of child bearing age', nevermind the fact that PCOS rendered her infertile. Another indication that she's completely full of shit. Pro-tip: if you want something to be believable, wait a bit before proclaiming a diagnoses.

sage for blogposting>>355978

No. 355987

>>355921
Is this what who wanted? Who wants a selfie where she looks buck toothed and vaguely sad?
Anyone would think that farmers had suggested her entire family should die or something else awful instead of just pointing out that her story is a bit dodgy and she enjoys the attention too much.
Girl must have no shame at all

No. 355988

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So many hashtags. And when you make a drawing of your disease the MRI, xray and gravestone matters more than the pain. Oh and don't forget the pills! She keeps asking people to repost it. And on facebook she even added her URL to the drawing, because people keep stealing her photos.

Guess the colitis got replaced by the Endo. Under her recent photo she wrote that she will probably get surgery to remove some of the tumors(growth, unless you need the attention). Nearly every day she makes a photo of her hot water bottle, because of her endo pain. Before the endo diagnosis she always wrote that she uses it to ease the colitis pain. How can endo causes burning pain(and the feeling of having knifes in them) in your tigh bone?
No doctor has opened up her belly to confirm the diagnosis, so I doubt that they would remove the growth. Her gynecologist is shitty and just wants the money from the insurance company. And she only had two 3-monthly contraceptive injections so far.

No. 356000

>>355921

Hoo boy. This idiot went from 'haha I've got It under control, I will destroy the farm!' to 'weep you destroyed my precious psyche!'

And god damn it, it is still not enough to make her understand that she's not the victim here, that her actions have hurt people, and that she needs to get help and not film herself crying. Moron.

No. 356024

>>355988
God this girl pisses me off so much. Unless youve had surgery they cannot confirm a diagnosis of endo. I reckon she may have been lurking because the implausabiliy of her endo dx has come up before and everyone has saidnhow an actual endo diagnosis works. And calling endometrial growths tumours, fuck me. Often they will remove growths during an exploratory laparoscopy, if its not too complicated. Also colitis doesn't just go away.

Saged because fuck me she makes me rage

No. 356027

Listen, you Munchie fucks. If your diagnosis does not start with C, it's not a fucking tumor. Stop milking your cysts and fibroids and fibromas and various benign shit. ICD-10 code starts with any letter other than C = "ITS NOT A TOOOMAH!"

No. 356030

>>355980
>>355978
As someone who has had a total hysterectomy and my ovaries removed yeah it's not something anyone does quickly or as a first or second treatment for uncontrollable bleeding. Without making this a huge non needed blog it basically took about two years of all kinds of tests and other procedures before it was removed and that was only after the tests came back from two biopsies as abnormal after trying everything else.

No. 356041

>>356030

Waaaaait… how did we get to uncontrollable bleeding? 3 units of blood per fourteen days works out to about 107ml blood loss PER DAY. I cannot possibly imagine someone losing that amount of blood without it being painfully evident. We are talking three shot glasses of blood. She would literally be constantly creating a puddle of it under herself.

I have an extremely difficult time believing that someone who does not have low platelets and does not have an identified coagulopathy can lose that much blood in that little time. Just, no. It does not happen in the real world, no matter how special you are.

No. 356042

>>355988

It's kinda funny she complains about her hair loss because most of the drugs are anti-TNF monoclonal antibodies. Unlike chemo, which simply kills all fast dividing cells including white blood cells that are involved in the autoimmune cascade, anti-TNF drugs and other MABs are extremely selective and as such don't cause significant hair loss.

But please do milk your fucking RA, a painful and unpleasant but hardly lethal and super dramatic disease.

No. 356043

>>356042
she also claims to be on two antiTNFs…suspect.
(sage for PLing: infliximab made my hair go thin, but i definitely didn't go bald. anyone claiming that is talking out of their ass)

the main issue i have with this particular post is that it's just a really, really shit drawing.

No. 356045

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I am the anon who wrote the post that Kelly is so incredibly upset about. A post that described how her Munchie antics have affected my real life.

DARVO, much? Reverse victim and offender?

Kelly, if you are reading this, I don't want you to be upset. I don't want your apology. I want you to seek help. Someday you will have to make amends but first you will have to decide on the life you want. Go get your surgery and pretend it cured you, and stop putting other people through pain, betrayal and the generally shit feelings that come with being the victim of an emotional predator.

Yes, I bet the attention was good. But you know what? You don't need to be sick to get attention. Get attention for your ballet, your writing or anything you love to do, but not for faking an illness.

Hundreds of people believed you. I know a few personally, and I know that once they put two and two together and saw you were faking, their hearts broke. Much like mine did. You don't know how this betrayal feels until you've been subjected to it. I hope nobody ever hurts you this way.

I don't bear you any ill-will. I just know that a lot of my friends are fighting for their lives, and the last thing they need is unnecessary drama.

Kelly, after thirty-six years on this planet, I can say that you are the first person who made me feel utterly betrayed and exploited. I don't even know you that well but I feel utterly empty and heartbroken. I remember checking your Instagram every minute on my honeymoon (!) because you had your seizures. I was worried sick about you.

I know you're sick (just not with a blood disorder), and so I'm trying not to be mad at you. I am disappointed by how you handled all of this - I hoped you would stand up and admit what you have done, apologize and disappear, living a life that perhaps does not require constant asspats from fellow Munchies on Instagram. Instead, you concluded people on this board are horrible and out to get you, and sought solace with your enablers.

I might sound harsh, but it seems I care more for you than they do.

You still have a future. You can still be someone, you're young. I beg you, take this offer. Save face by saying the surgery cured you if need be, and start living life. Love on your cat. Get a hobby. Dance. Get help. Ask for your port to be removed.

And next time you screenshot my posts to show how horrible I am, at least screenshot the whole thing, not just the parts that make you look like the victim. Go show your followers what the effects of your actions were.

I'm praying for you.(sage this blog)

No. 356051

>>356043

Well, I assumed she's not having ALL of those at the same time. She'd be a walking herd of conflicting monoclonal antibodies, driving her into a cytokine storm.

No. 356058

>>356045
learn to sage correctly and learn not to blog or grandstand

No. 356062

>>356058
Normally I'd agree but I think it's important for Kelly to know how her antics are affecting other peoples lives. Aren't we all about calling fakers out?

No. 356064

On watch:

Kelly Ronahan
Eli
JBN (I'm not convinced she's a munchie, though, since she's willing to accept a somatic diagnosis)
Jonzie has a new account
Shelbie and Ali seem to have gone dark
endlessvoices
chronically_jaquie
chronichope_
chronically.christina
littlemisswheeler
myblondevoyage
Morgan McCastor
cfoxy29
hypermobileguy
karolynprg
Natasha Coates
ohtheplaceswewillroll
sam.lovelie.leth
missfelicityrose

I know that's probably not everyone, but it's a majority of people mentioned in the last thread. A couple of people were just posted once and were obvious self posts or vendettas.

No. 356072

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I found a new account by Shelbie from mutuals. wonder what utter bullshit she's posting on there, especially after her "my illnessez are sooper speshual but my doctors won't treat me so I'm going to kill myself" and "I'm The Sickest Spoonieâ„¢ so I can't work anymore and I need moniez" tantrums. anyone have access?

No. 356073

>>356045
You write "sage" in the email field, leave the name field blank, Sage changes the colour of "anonymous" and identifies a comment as being a response to an existing comment.
In the world of KR You're one of a thousand, a kind deed never goes unpunished etc etc. Never question your own integrity but by all means continue to question others.

No. 356080

>>356041
Yeah without pulling it out of her central line she would have to be soaking through a pad less than every hour which at that point they would be doing a D&C the first several times for things like cysts and fibros (I don't know if she's had one) I just was pointing out that they don't just give you a hysterectomy or even discuss it until you've tried everything. And by uncontrolled bleeding I mean a non stop period for months that meds and everything else has been tried and you're still bleeding. Which again isn't gonna cause what ever sooper special whatever anemia she thinks she has/had. That was magically cured once people called her out on it.

No. 356081

>>356058

I'm sorry. You're perfectly right. And normally I wouldn't have blogged. However, given the steady line of WKs trying to present this whole affair as something that's none of our business, that's between Kelly and her docs, that's quintessentialy a victimless crime even if she was Munchieing it up, I felt it was necessary to show an opposite position. Consider that most Munchies think that as long as they don't accept money donations, there's no harm and no foul. But the reality is very different and perhaps they themselves need to come to understand that.

Sorry for fucking up the sageing.

No. 356097

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>>356072

Latest shelbie post. Not too much on other than BP readings and the amazing fentynl patch which helps her eat despite her really bad GP. There would be a lot less sooper spoonies cured of GP is if it was solely down to pain relief.

Sage for: New lurker not sure of her history

No. 356102

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>>356080

Assuming that would be the case, I'd expect to see low platelets (she's getting PRC but not plts), as well as some systemic explanation and bleeds everywhere else. There's no super severe fibroids thingy that never clots and pours out three drams of claret a day. Only a clotting disorder could explain that, but then where are the bruises, the gastric bleeds, the blood in the poo and the nosebleeds?

Bottom line: she's making shit up.

No. 356103

>>356097

"My illness that consists of a smooth muscle moving too slowly has improved from taking a medication that makes smooth muscles move even faster!"

Filed under: "getting shot in the head fixed my headache"

No. 356108

>>356097

Fentanyl patches are absolutely not indicated for 'back pain' unless it derives from a postsurgical syndrome like failed back or from severe disc prolapses or stuff like spinal tumors. Patients who have pain in one area but then tell you that the narcotic painkiller helped them with other pains of a totally different etiology are dodgy.

No. 356121

>>356103

even slower, no?

No. 356125

>>356121

Yes, sorry. I is a moron. :)

No. 356148

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I made a shitty collage of MyBlondeVoyage's prescription medications from the clinic (see next post). I'm sure some of these aren't meant to be taken together. Also she's on Lithium for its supposed anti-viral properties too.

No. 356151

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The medications MBV is on for her ~neurolyme~.

No. 356159

>>356151

Fuck me. She'll be zonked out. That's THREE gabaergics, an opioid and a sedating first generation antipsychotic. Jesus. This is enough to lay flat a large animal, never mind MBV. Never mind also that prescribing an opioid with a benzo is a bad idea - these are the weakest of each, but still. She will get incredibly fat incredibly quickly and she'll next complain about debilitating fatigue, I bet.

Also, I've never seen gaba5 and Lyrica prescribed together save for epileptics who also had social anxiety (the only use of pregabalin that gabapentin doesn't do).

I'm shocked.

No. 356160

>>356151
Even if the dosages are low (the lowest practically effective dosage of Lyrica is 75mg), what the fuck are they expecting from this combination? Other than semicomatose stupor, that is?

No. 356161

>>356159

Anon who posted the pic, here.

I agree with you. I've been/am on some of these drugs, and it struck me as either dangerous, overkill, or untrue (but how else would she have them?).

No. 356162

>>356148

> a specialist in neurological Lyme who is also a psychiatrist


i think the word you're looking for is "quack"

No. 356164

>>356151

If she has psychosis, why aren't they giving her an antipsychotic that actually works without turning you into a zombie (Zyprexa, Abilify, even Seroquel is less sedating than CPZ and has much lower incidence of extrapyramidal side effects)? The only justification for prescribing CPZ is short term to a psychotic with agitated features, and off label for nausea if for some reason setrons are not appropriate and domperidone would have psychiatric adverse effects. I have a very hard time imagining a doctor to have prescribed all of this - this is either her haul from multiple doctors or she is showing meds she no longer takes.

No. 356166

>>356162


Well he does work at a naturopathic clinic…

No. 356170

>>356151
How the fuck is she still standing taking all that stuff? It's enough to tranquilize an elephant.

No. 356180

>>356170

IKR? I was put on Lyrica (Pregabalin) for pain caused by my condition but had to stop after a month because I was so tired and floppy! (Oh, also it didn't do anything for the pain.)

No. 356184

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>>356064

Not sure if seen before! Looks like she played the sickness bingo and is waiting for more diagnosis to get a full house!

More worried about getting to comic-con than dealing with her many issues

No. 356186

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>>356184

Vogmask check! No spoonie is right without one!

No. 356187

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No. 356190

>>356184

Checked her IG- she went to the ER for fluids because her heart rate was 120? That's not overly high for POTS patients. Could she not drink some water instead? Drama more fun, I guess.

No. 356199

Kelly deleted her IG says user not found and no posts.

No. 356209

>>356058
I think this kind of blogpost should be excusable in a situation like this.

No. 356210

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Looks like Jacquie is upping her munchie game she's now getting a custom light weight wheelchair that she really didn't want but her doctor said she needs it. It's in her YouTube so I cannot screen shot it. After she just got a brand new pink walker to match everything else she has cause it's piiiiink. Also wish she would stop taking about how ethical of a service dog handler she is. I'm not even entirely sure how well her badly bred service dog can see outta its poor eyes. Which is what the picture is of is that poor dogs poor eyes.

No. 356212

>>356210
It's okay. They're in an eyeglass store. She's clearly getting it a fancy new pair of glasses.

No. 356219

>>356210

Unfortunately I think it's starving to death. A few months back, she had a whole post about how she put her dog on a raw vegetables only diet. Ever since, it's been steadily looking sadder and more skeletal. Which is why I refuse to go through her insta anymore, she's hurting a defenseless animal that I'm sure loves her very much.

(Before anyone starts WKing, dogs are meant to eat more than vegetables. They are not herbivores.)

No. 356225

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My heart…

No. 356230

>>356199
Still active here

No. 356242

>>356199

Looks like she really finally took >>356045 advice, however there is a new screen name in IG just no posts yet! Also agree that she really should have shared the entire original post from them as well bc that just shows even more the " poor me, why me" and if you saw all the comments everyone was asking why does she even lurk here, and if she thinks the people who keep sending her screenshots are friends, I'd definitely re-evaluate that friendship

No. 356245

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>>356199

Kek. Sure kelly, someone hacked and deleted you.

No. 356254

>>356064
What is jozies new account?
I know she has a personal account that she has kept private (although she does declare herself a spoonie in the bio) and I think she does restrict who she actually accepts.
I miss that milk and am so curious what ended up happening to her

No. 356256

>>356219
I know there was drama in the FB service dog groups a while back about it and how her vet said the dogs eyes were fine. Which they obviously are not WAY before she hopped on the raw diet fad bullshit

No. 356261

>>356245
Oh Christ. Give it up. You are not a victim.

No. 356262

I guses since Kelly realized her friends were clue-ing into her theatrical crying and obvious self-posting in her own typing style from Kelowna where she lives, she had to up the ante a bit and pretend she was hacked. Is there anything this girl won't do for sympathy?

No. 356268

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How many accounts does Kelly have?

No. 356273

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>>355530
>>356268
Her insta is still showing for me. I just took this.

No. 356283

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>>356273
Someone apparently hacked her account.

No. 356285

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If her blood disorder is as easily solved as taking some new medication and having a hysterectomy, it isn't that "rare", and certainly doesn't make her a "medical mystery".

No. 356288

>>356273

And she's back, they had to confirm it was indeed her account or whatever and supposedly IG has the ip of the person who hacked her account! Kek, she probably had a dissociative attack of some sort and doesn't remember deleting her own account in her her hysteria

No. 356292

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guess who's back in A+E again!
i swear she's in A+E more often than i am, and i work there.

spoonies love a personalised Care Plan…it doesn't make you speshul, it means you're a pain in the ass and you're wasting staff time.

No. 356296

>>356108
My grandmother had one for her back pain, although she was 88 at the time and stopped after awhile.

No. 356297

>>356293
It's not an appropriate raw food diet at all. It's been brought up in so many dog groups on how she's doing it wrong by some really smart people who tried to help and explain to her and she deleted their comments on her posts before.

No. 356300

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>>356024
I also thought that at first, but some followers keep questioning her Endo diagnosis. Sadly she keeps deleting and blocking everyone who dares to question her. Unless she likes you of course!

>>356042
You ain't getting sympathy points unless you make even a papercut into something super dramatic. Sadly she's pretty good at milking




Attached picture? She asks fellow spoonie accounts on instagram for help instead of going to the doctor. Prior she always wrote that this is just her gastritis. Now she thinks that she might have gastroparesis. Hydromorphone(she takes it) slowes down the bowel and I don't think she's taking something that can prevent this. She wrote that she has to throw up after a few bites for a few month now and this whole story seems really fishy. What's wrong with her? When you can barely eat without throwing up you should see a doctor and not go on instagram and ask for help.

Something from the comment section? Suddenly the RA attacks her teeth and eyes. No doctor confirmed it yet. Her teeth are brittle and they hurt. Don't know what happened to her lungs, but I guess she simply forgot that she could barely take the stairs a few weeks ago.

No. 356301

>>356300
All I see are testicles underneath her belly.

No. 356303

>>356292

Nicole just can't get enough of dat sweet validation. Even if she really is now firmly in the "you're making it worse for yourself" camp. She's even admitted all of her physical things are psychogenic; I'm guessing the vomiting is probably her ability to make herself purge without needing to trip her gag reflex.

Why can't she accept that now that her symptoms have no biological basis, she is not as important as someone with conditions like epilepsy or whatnot.

Ffs, it really is because of cows like this that I'm stopping pursuing treatment for my illnesses. I'd rather die in 5-10ish years than go through the constant care-management and be continually exposed to dipshits like Nicole.

No. 356312

I don't know much about chronically Jaquie and just watched 30s of one of her videos and right away I notice her vlog layout is exactly like a YouTuber I watch with a legitimate disease, The Frey Life. Their intro is exactly the same, at least in the Frey life's older intros. It seems like she's copying them, and I believe they follow each other.

No. 356313

>>356292

"Giving them helpful tips"

Oh, you think THAT's what a PCCSP does? HAHAHAHA cute.

Seriously, these dipshits all think that they're so super interesting, the privilege of treating them is some great educational experience and they're so special that we need 'tips' to manage them. No. Half the time, we do PCCSPs to make sure that you yourself agree to a plan to treat you in a particular way because we know that you do not need that treatment, but don't want to be on the hook when your Munchie antics finally catch up with you. We can then easily point at the PCCSP and say 'hey, we agreed with you this is what we'll do to you, you signed off on this'. Have it your way, as my colleagues with an English degree would say.

No. 356315

>>356300

What the shitfuck is that under her belly?

No. 356316

>>356312

So it's not just me! Seriously, the fucking audacity. "My friend who has CF is making a vlog about a lethal disease… let me make the same kind of vlog with more whining about my sooper serious nonexistent crap!"

No. 356317

>>356316
She's not even sick. There's nothing wrong with her.

No. 356321

>>356312

She makes me madder than most of the spoonies, even if she is sick (totally possible, at least I'd hope her doctors that sign off on her shit aren't doing all her invasive things unnecessarily). She milks her illness more than anyone. You don't need a damn dog with EDS, or one of those masks for mast cell (sage: because I have the same conditions she claims, but I don't want people to look at me and see a sick person!).

Sage for blogging and rage posting

No. 356322

>>356321
Yea the similarities are way too close. And the way she talks too is so annoying. "I need a wheelchair for my POTS because my POTS makes me pass out because I have POTS did I mention I have POTS?"
The doctor probably wants her in a wheelchair so it'll make her shut up about her symptoms because she won't be walking

No. 356328

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Does anyone else find it unusual that her stepfather is always polishing her toenails? I know this is totally off-topic, just was wondering if anyone else found that a little unusual…

Sage for sorta OTT

No. 356331

>>356321

> even if she is sick (totally possible, at least I'd hope her doctors that sign off on her shit aren't doing all her invasive things unnecessarily).


I think people overestimate how much objective evidence doctors have and underestimate how dependent we are on history. The problem of the patient with FII is that their history is intentionally misleading. Most patients with FII are not dumb - they are, in fact, on the whole, above average in terms of intelligence. That helps them pull off their little tricks, ranging from simply lying to actually fabricating clinical documentation. When a patient gives you a discharge note or a letter from another doctor, you're unlikely to have the time to go through it in detail, double-triple-crosscheck it against her file, make sure that her shit is real, call up the doctor to confirm etc. As such, they can get away with a lot. And what are the consequences? Due to confidentiality regulations, I cannot share it with another doctor if I found a patient to have lied to me or falsified documentation. The consequences for a Munchie are non-existent, most of all because nobody wants to risk accusing someone of being a Munchie who might have something actually physically wrong with them.

So when you have 30 minutes to see a patient, listen to their tale of woe and decide what to do with them and put it into a computer system that crashes every five seconds, then short of blatant bullshit (misspellings, obviously unclinical language, etc.), there's not much more that we can do other than believe what we're shown (BTW, there have been cases when docs saw letters from another doc and called the patient on having fabricated it, only for it to turn out that the doc literally wrote that badly and unclinically. It happens.). And so, these sick fucks exploit this and the innate compassion of those in the medical profession who see a patient in distress (most are so good at feigning it!) and they get their sick fucking satisfaction from that.

Asshats.

No. 356337

>>356321
>You don't need a damn dog with EDS, or one of those masks for mast cell

as much as I despise jacquie and agree she kills her illnesses and likely doesn't need a bunch of her shit I'm gonna have to stop you there. just because you do not benefit from these things for your illnesses does not mean they are not beneficial to other people who have them. I know this is a munchie thread but there are many people with legitimate EDS that can and do very much benefit from their service dogs. but not everyone with EDS needs one and that's what drives me crazy about so many people with them. many of the SD handlers (especially owner trainers) think that their speshul condishuns make them eligible for a SD when half the time their illnesses aren't disabling. but no the people with EDS who are very much limited with their daily tasks have every right to "have a damn dog"

sage for blogging

No. 356339

>>356337
er *milks her illnesses

sage for incompetence at proofreading

No. 356341

>>356337
It does seem like another thing she's copying from the Frey Life, at least to me. I know Mary has her SD to lean on him while she's coughing, and I believe Jaquie said she uses her dog to lean on when she's feeling weak. Could be a coincidence but idk if she's mentioned other reasons for him. Should be an emotional service animal.
Sage for whatever

No. 356342

>>356337

I'm pretty sure nobody benefits from a mask that does not do shit for them.

No. 356344

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And Nicole is starting to slide back into her psychosomatic props again.

>I'm trying so hard without the tube. I'm still trying to eat even though it's becoming so hard to motivate myself.


Boo fucking hoo Nicole. You don't get a fucking NG tube because you find it emotionally or mentally distressing to engage in the act of eating. That's why you need to fucking keep going to therapy.

And you need to be receptive to that therapy! Not just blocking it off in some corner of your mind, knowing that it will never help. Because that kind of defeatist attitude is going to make you so much more of a malingering fuckwit than you already are.

And 4th appearance to the emergency room in that week? Good fucking god, talk about a frequent flier. I have epilepsy, and I've only been in the ER twice in three years. You seem to not understand how people with severe conditions engage with the medical process: we don't hoover resources like some shitty Charybdis.

No. 356346

>She's not a munchie
This thread is for over the top spoonies too.

No. 356347

>>356344
>not logged in
Nicole?

No. 356348

>>356347

Nah, fam. Afaik Nicole doesn't self-post like Kelly. Instead she comes in guns blazing to defend herself.

No. 356356

>>356315
>>356301
How can a belly swell like this?
(I thought that the thing underneath the red line looks like a butt)
Is the belly button between the cheeks/testicles or whatever? This doesn't make any sense.

No. 356358

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>>356285
Top kek, she changed it

No. 356359

>>356328
yeah i found it odd too. especially as she's an adult.

No. 356360

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Morgan's up to her old shenanigans after being evaluated and declined for hospice services, haha.

She's currently obssessing over trying and failing to sleep. According to this post, an entire wheelbarrow full of meds isn't enough to induce sleep for her, but of course nothing BUT meds will work.

Also waking up to pee 15-25 times a night. Listen, my guy, even when I had hypercalcemia-induced polyuria, I got up maybe two or three times a night to pee. It sounds like her anxiety is making her feel like she needs to pee more. It's astonishing that hasn't occurred to her.

No. 356361

>>356358
Kek, i laughed out loud at "not so rare blood disorder"

No. 356364

…adding to the chorus of "this fucked with my head".

I do post about my illness, but every time I do I make sure it's low drama and matter of fact with either something empowering or encouraging at the end.

I haven't been able to make those posts since I found this thread. I don't know if Kelly was posting other people's information or not, but to continue to post ANYTHING about my health started feeling gross and wrong, no matter what sort of positive spin I put on it.

I want to fight the shame of chronic illness and show that we can work and have lives and relationships, and now… now I just want to hide in a hole and never speak of my health ever again.

So yeah, no uplifting conclusion here. I'm hurt and angry and feel violated even though none of my posts ended up here.

Safe for blogging and rage

No. 356369

>>356364
To be specific, I feel violated by MY OWN COMMUNITY. Not this site. All this site did was reveal the toxicity that was already there.

No. 356370

>>356358

"not so rare blood disorder"

Christ alive, Kelly. It's not a blood disorder if the derangement is in your behavioral patterns. Exsanguination isn't a blood disorder, anymore than a gunshot wound to the head is a neurological disorder.

No. 356372

>>356360
does hospice mean something different in the US? here, you've generally got to be actively dying (usually of cancer) to get palliative/hospice care. is this twit trying to take resources away from people dying agonising deaths?

No. 356373

>>356372

No, that's exactly what hospice means here too. Morgan (and her MBP mom) were so wrapped up in her pretend illnesses they were sure they would get greenlit for hospice.

Unfortunately for them, the only thing dying is Morgan's sanity, and the meltdown post is now deleted that contained being denied hospice and encouraged to work on healthier living habits.

No. 356377

>>356341
Everything she does is a copy and she laps up the attention and asspats.

Starving her dog is worst of all, though. Hope she never has a kid or it'll turn into MBP.

No. 356378

>>356358
Fucking hell. Globally, anaemia affects 1.62 billion people (that's around 24.8% of the population). You're not special Kelly. It's not that big of a deal. You have anemia. Big fucking deal. So do 1.62 billion people.

Sage for rage

No. 356380

>>356372

Hospice is hard to get on and you have to WANT to be on it. When you get on hospice you have to sign paperwork saying you don't want any further medical investigation or recussitstion. I refused to sign it when I was in multiorgan failure because I wasn't ready to give up. I made the right decision on account of how I'm not dead.

Hospice is sometimes the right choice, but it's always a choice. You don't just get forced on it by your doctors and you have to be on death's door, especially when you're young.

No. 356393

>>356380
hospice wont pay for pallative care and hospital care and will do their best to keep you away from hospitals and mostly just offer pain meds until death, but you can rescind hospice if you do wish to have treatment.

No. 356405

>>356321
The dog was supposedly originally for her seizure stuff and cataplexy that she pissed and moaned about for like ever then as soon as she got her sweet sweet EDS diagnosis and pots diagnosis no more with the epilepsy talk

No. 356409

>>355953
You don't need a gofundme here in Aus. Hospital is covered by Medicare and we have a prescription drug benefits scheme where they're five bucks with a healthcare card. There's no need at all for sucking money off normal folks to buy saline for his creepy hobby

No. 356410

>>356254
Oh god do I miss jonzies antics. She was so dumb. I'd kill for her to start up another account just for her lying and bitching

No. 356413

>>356377
learn how to sage, newfag
(hint: write sage in the email field, not the name field)

sage for exasperation and ot

No. 356423

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>>356064

So her CRPS is so bad she requires ketamine infusions now, but in the past week or two she's made several posts about being back to ballet. Also getting iv infusions for pots. The bullshit and manipulation is strong with this one.

No. 356424

>>356413
Not a newfag, just fucked it up that time by shitty typing. Sorry, though, I know it's fucking annoying.

No. 356429

>>356360
i just clicked on her page and the first post i saw about the 1-10 pain scale and all the comments are equally stupid.
i know people experience pain differently and everyone has a different threshold but if 10 is the limit of "cannot function, cannot think of anything but the pain", then just say fucking 10 to your doctor. saying 20 makes you sound like a whiney baby. sorry to be pedantic, but they started it.
and not trying to be insensitive to people with chronic pain.

No. 356451

File: 1500598539159.png (734.45 KB, 750x1334, IMG_9559.PNG)

Oh my god. She makes my damn blood boil!!! I swear to god if they give her a PEG I will go out of my mind!!!

No. 356465

>>356451

I wouldn't be surprised if her 'accepting' that there is a psychosomatic element in her vomiting might be basically her realizing that she could either fight to prove an organic cause that isn't there and lose, or admit that the cause is psychosomatic but because therapy takes time blah blah she needs a PEG/J to keep her going in the meantime because hungry Munchie can't focus on therapy.

I think she didn't make progress, she just figured out how to play the system. And most of us here.

No. 356466

Saline should be a last resort avenue for POTS as it becomes less and less effective to lower heat rate.

No. 356477

>>356466
Sage for blogging:

I use saline for pots, but I'd already tried meds (nearly all available), and I still take two different meds on top of it. It was definitely a last resort, and it's not glamorous as the spoonies claim. It's boring and time consuming and there's a risk of infection. And it's not special either, anyone can get dehydrated and go to the er and get saline

No. 356491

>>356477
You could just not blog

No. 356526

>>356064
I'd add fuckyourself9000 too this list, but she seems to have abandoned her insta. Hasn't posted and hashtagged in like 3 days since posting that fight with her mum, which is highly unusual for her.

No. 356540

>>356288
Fun fact: the term hysteria actually originates from the greek word for uterus, because at the time "psychologists"believed that only women could have hysteria and that it was because of their "womb" and that removing it would cure their hysteria. Hence hysterectomy. Just some comedic irony haha

sage for OT and random facts

No. 356584

OK someone mentioned that Jonzie is back online. Spill deets please?

No. 356587

File: 1500613151259.jpg (43.76 KB, 420x294, IMG_7390.JPG)

>>356451
Why the hell do you care so much about the lives of strangers? Find a new hobby.

No. 356596

File: 1500613309162.jpg (34.02 KB, 420x294, IMG_7397.JPG)

You pricks….(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 356599

>>356219
Not WKing, but she isn't feeding the dog just raw vegetables. A raw diet includes mostly raw meat, as well as raw bones and raw fruits/veggies. If you scroll back far enough on her Instagram, there's chunks of meat in the food bowl.

Sage for rawdiet-fagging

No. 356601

OHHH, DAT SWEET PROJEKSHUN! Fuck off Spergchan v. 2.0. All these memes apply to you!

No. 356617

>>356615
Dude, chill the fuck out with the posting

No. 356632

Wow that's some powerful autism. We've got a new sperchan. Must be scary going through life with that much cognitive dissonance

No. 356643

>>356587

You might want to read through this thread for a few stories of what these assholes have done to the lives of other people.

Or do they not matter? Is sperging about your precious spoonie Munchie buddies all that's worth caring about?

No. 356693

Ooo, a real meme war!! I've only heard the legends of these heroic battles.

Seriously, tho, everyone calm the fuck down.

No. 356705

Dear god, the munchies think memes are the answer…poor, deluded bastards

No. 356756

>>356705

I thought they were too busy 'having a life' (largely consisting of talking shit on social media and catfishing with their imaginary illness).

No. 356776

>>356378
I think it's strange Kelly is claiming to be anemic but she never has bruises or anything. And she apparently has the energy to do ballet.

No. 356779

>>356599
And she also had to supposedly take the dog to the vet a week back because she forgot to give it bones and the dog almost had liquid shits all over Walmart because of it. And if you're that bad medically that you can't properly remember how to raw feed your dog you have no business raw feeding your dog. Also chunks of meat does not a raw diet make. Raw diets have to consist of so much organ meat, meat meat, bones and a very very small amount of fruit and veg. Which originally she was saying that fruit and veg counted as bone until people were pointing out she was doing it wrong. She deleted commments and switched the diet around a bit.

Sage for raw food fagging

No. 356787

>>356776

From her bloods and the fact that she only needs packed reds rather than platelets etc., I would surmise she claims her anemia specifically involves only the proerythroblastic cell line, and as such both white blood cells and platelets are generally normal, hence no bruising and no infection risk.

What is more interesting about the absence of bruises is that her argument claims she is somehow losing lots of blood through her uterus. That volume of blood loss is only possible through a coagulopathy. But then, one would expect bruises and bleeding everywhere else.

Bottom line, Kelly is making shit up.

No. 356813

>>356787
The obvious conclusion here is that she's actually a vampire who's trying to bum free blood off of hospitals.

No. 356819

>>356779
you didn't sage. 'sage' goes in the email field.

No. 356831

File: 1500647543535.jpg (219.21 KB, 974x632, low001.jpg)

And the cow killed her own sob story :(
On this picture it's clearly visible, that way too tight trousers caused all of it. Or maybe not? Who knows.

What I think is the funniest thing? Her dose of Rituximab isn't this high for her RA and she claims that she's gaining weight from it. According to her photos she is still pretty slim

No. 356849

>>356819
Whoops I really hate doing this on my phone all long posts will be done on my CPU from now on

No. 356876

Apparently chronically Jacquie's gastroparesis is so sooper special even a gastroparesis diet won't help it and everyone needs to stop telling her to eat a gastroparesis friendly diet

No. 356885

>>356876

This is the stupidest sporting I've seen a spoonie sperg in a long, long time, and that's fucking saying something these days.

No. 356887

File: 1500655113769.png (111.49 KB, 500x383, IMG_7418.PNG)

(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 356889

File: 1500655203357.jpg (23.89 KB, 236x189, IMG_7409.JPG)

>>356632
You probably think autism is fake too.

No. 356890

>>356889

Listen, fuckwit. I get it, you have a whole folder on your iPad/iPhone full of memes. How fucking clever. Now fuck the fuck off.

No. 356893

File: 1500655893207.png (744.08 KB, 934x598, Screenshot 2017-07-21 18.40.11…)

Am I the only person here more than a little concerned, but also amused, by the emergence of new woo-woo clinics to cater for the sooperspeshul needs of spoonies?

I mean, reading this, I've toyed with the idea of setting up a hospital specialising just in spoonies. Everybody would be treated like the special snowflake they are and they would be getting super special only-one-in-the-world just-for-the-most-severe-cases treatments (IV saline with various colourful dyes and sugar pills with long names). We would run meaningless but expensive tests, reduce the normal range thereby ensuring that virtually everyone will have something wrong with them, and treat them to long inpatient stays where we give them pointless therapies like 'oxygen therapy' (bitch, if your sats are >95, oxygen is not gonna do shit for you). Nurses would be standing by to take instagram shots at your request. Not only would we cash in, it would also relieve some of the pressure these cunts create on the healthcare system.

Then I saw I'm too late and apparently some of these places exist. See attached image. Hansa, the place she's referring to, is the Hansa Center for Optimum Health (http://hansacenter.com), a woo clinic treating such serious conditions as MCS (doesn't exist), adrenal fatigue (doesn't exist) and various other shit these people love to whine about. And, I presume, making a mint.

No. 356896

File: 1500656026481.png (478.79 KB, 807x594, Screenshot 2017-07-21 18.53.08…)

The point of a hospital is to NOT have found a 'home' there, you codependent, Munchie fuck!

No. 356898

File: 1500656207903.png (74.01 KB, 328x496, Screenshot 2017-07-21 18.45.40…)

What the shitfuck is 'histamine intolerance' anyway? The fucking point of histamine is to be intolerant to it! Jesus Christ these people.

No. 356903

File: 1500656436797.gif (8.37 MB, 300x300, 2ATqf1w.gif)

mfw people respond to the spammer

No. 356905

>>356831
Trousers or slouching. I have the same thing and it's from being a fatty who slouches. It's nothing special or alarming. A lot of people have that line.

No. 356911

>>356903
what's the context of this gif?

No. 356915


No. 356922

>>356905
she get's angry, when people tell her that they also have a bloated belly. She even shows photos of this to her doctor. Imagine being her doctor and having to tell her, that she just needs to change her posture during eating or get new pants. Or both.

No. 356924

>>356915
Oh yeah, my bad. She's only sad she's getting called out. and she's in her mid 30s? she needs to grow tf up.

No. 356926

>>356924
This. She's too old to be acting like this, and too young to be wasting her time malingering in hospitals, wishing herself sick.

No. 356950

>>356926

Which leads me to something I was always wondering about. What exactly is it these people envisage for the rest of their lives, when they're no longer spoonie instagram princesses but thirtysomethings with no job, no insurance, no education other than WebMD and no skills other than whining on Instagram, pretending to be sick and lying to doctors? Genuinely curious.

No. 356954

>356893

"Hansa Center remedies, nutritional products, and treatment modalities are intended to enhance overall body performance and are not intended or implied to diagnose, treat, prevent, or cure any specific illness. All remedies and nutritional supplements are only the doctor’s best recommendation and are at no time to be considered a prescription."

Not intended to treat any specific illness. Kek

No. 356956

Whoops, I meant >>356893

No. 356958

>>356950
well, the people with socialized medicine [kelly, nicole, robyn, etc] wont ever have to worry about paying medical bills. most probably also scam medical benefits as well so they won't have to work, or rely on other social benefits.

No. 356997

>>356950

They'll post pathetic memes on sites like this, as seen above!

No. 357001

>>356587
I appreciate the mods banning the ban evader/spammer, but is it possible to delete the meme posts? Those are obnoxious when I have to scroll past them to read anything relevant to the thread.
These are memes a fourteen year old posts…

No. 357012

>>356958

Well yeah, plus Robyn is married to a nice subservient boy who will indulge her crazy while Byronically lamenting the strength it takes to be the spouse of someone so soooper sick. I just… don't see the endgame, and I'm genuinely curious.

No. 357015

>>357001
I wonder if the memes are the "surprise" Kelly was threatening. I hope so, because that would be hilariously pathetic

No. 357016

>>357012
Honestly, he has to have some issues of his own to be willing to feed into all of her bs

No. 357017

>>357012
Did she get married? Last I heard she was engaged, and had been for a really long time. Eleven years pops into my head, but that may be wrong. Anyway, I always figured that while her fiance might not have minded dipping his wick in crazy, he didn't necessarily want it tied to him for the rest of his life. I've been wondering what she's up to; she's been pretty quiet.

No. 357072

File: 1500670052699.png (637.85 KB, 965x576, othernicole.png)

I really hope that at some point, Kelly and her band of psychos realize that spam posting in an old school message board isn't going to stop anyone here. It's pretty common for dem early 00s imageboards, and I've never seen /b/ taken down.

On topic, take a gander at this other Nicole, who has Lyme, fibro, and some mysterious illness caused by black mold. So we are edging into the trifecta of made up shit, tbh.

She takes copious pictures of her chest port, and claims to have "end stage Lyme". If only God would be so good and rid her of either her presence or her delusions.

No. 357103

Oh my God. It's not even automated… it's some sad asshole sitting in front of his computer whiteknighting m'lady McAutoexsanguinatrix and hoping this will bring down the farms. Lol.

No. 357108

>>357103
Why haven't they been banned yet?
Sageing

No. 357110

File: 1500671148135.png (564.43 KB, 815x595, othernicole2.png)

>>357072

Lyme!Nicole is jut as fun as Kelly it seems! Although her (normal/healthy BP) of 85/50, she claims her doc made her stay 90 more minutes for… saline? Because this would help correct a healthy blood pressure?

Of course her response was to go "pole dancing" with the IV bag in the hall. Of course it was.

No. 357124

>>357072
>>357110

The woo is strong with this one. Is it actually possible to pump ozone into your bloodstream through an IV infusion? I can safely say I have never heard of that for a treatment for anything.

Glutathione is more woo, and according to Google, "Glutathione is an important antioxidant in plants, animals, fungi, and some bacteria and archaea."

So she's medicalizing supplements and woo by making them pump it into her eating disordered, self-induced fragile body. You go girl.

No. 357126

>>357110

Eh, 85/50 is pretty low tbh, but what I don't get is this: either your blood pressure causes you to have issues when you stand up (the idea of POTS), in which case sit the fuck down, or it doesn't, in which case you don't need saline to correct it.

No. 357127

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No. 357129

>>357124

It is sort of possible. It's possible to remove a volume of blood, oxygenate it with ozone rich oxygen, and then reinfuse. It's totally pointless though.

No. 357131

>>357110
Looking through her old instas it seems as soon as she has surgery to "cure" something, she gets something else. Definitely projecting onto her son too

No. 357133

>>357124
If you chilled it to -112C, then yes. You also might be able to dissolve it in water or another liquid, but I'm not sure.

No. 357134

>>357129
from a very quick google search, ozone seems to cause RBC damage (unsurprising really, free radicals etc etc) so she ain't doing herself any favours with all this woo

No. 357135

File: 1500672137290.png (684.45 KB, 937x577, othernicole4.png)

>>357127

I am super bummed out that she actually has a baby that needs her care. He actually looks more sick than she does. So I'm guessing she's probably both a massive narcissist and a munchie, and by flaunting and dramatizing her illnesses, takes the attention away from her son. Jesus. This is worse than the girl with the staring dog.

No. 357136

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Does whom ever is posting these "hilarious" Memes realize they can post as many as they like, this thread isn't going anywhere, and it is not going to end after this one! There will be another one following this one and so on etc! Truly just goes to show that these "spoonies" have way too much time on their hands when not clogging up the doctor's offices and trying to memorize WebMD!

is this Kelly's big "take down"? Hey Kelly aren't you overdue for a transfusion (or maybe a psych evaluation )

No. 357147

>>357135
Seriously, usually mothers post pictures of their kids growing and stuff and the only mention of her son is when he's sick. It's all about her.

No. 357150

File: 1500673763800.png (431.35 KB, 2048x1207, IMG_0132.PNG)

Why is it that these assholes have convinced themselves they're DYINGGGGGG and when you tell them that no, on the whole, they're fine and they'll live almost as long as everyone else, they freak out as if you told a normal person they have a terminal illness? They're so attached to the role of being sick, they regard health almost as a curse.

Being potentially terminally ill as a young person was not fun. Stop craving it, you risk getting your wish :/

No. 357151

>>357110

Ugh it really annoys me how she calls it "round 34" as if making it sound like chemotherapy which is y'know, actually real and serious.

No. 357154

does anyone else find it laughable that that Shelbie girl now has an IG name of hellbee_? she sure does put a lot of people, including her doctors (and it says she's a wife in her bio so I can imagine her poor husband too) through hell so it's apropo

No. 357155

>>357150

WTAF? it's statistically improbable to have Marfans AND Ehlers Danlos. ffs.

No. 357158


No. 357167

>>357158

Munchausen by Proxy syndrome

No. 357193

File: 1500678785961.png (609.84 KB, 813x584, othernicole5.png)

>>357135

"I welcome death for my minor and/or factitious illnesses! Notice me!!!"

Seriously? Dying because of exposure to mold and having fibro?

She's all surface and no depth. There seems to be little genuine emotion in there. She's just an empty, vacuous hole sucking the energy out of everything and everything, with her constant litany of NEED NEED NEED.

No. 357229

>>357193
>She's all surface and no depth. There seems to be little genuine emotion in there. She's just an empty, vacuous hole sucking the energy out of everything and everything, with her constant litany of NEED NEED NEED

You've just perfectly described every munchausens ever.

No. 357281

>>357135
Jeezus fuck I get strong MSP vibes with this one. OMG nothing makes me more horrified and disgusted than MSP perpetrators.

No. 357282

>>357155

Is it? They're different genes and affect different tissues (collagen/fibrillin respectively), but I have never heard of it happening either….

No. 357283

>>357193

Oh man, my new best/worst munchie.

No. 357284

>>357136
Get it right, anon. It's #BAEneedsblood. Y'know, BEYOND-ANYONE-ELSE. Nah that's not telling at all "Kellerina." Nope.

No. 357350

>>355876 some of the "mobility aids" these people use are just gonna do the complete opposite in the long run. Your muscles will be non existent but ya know, attention is way more imprtant than actually being able to do things.

No. 357354

>>357337
>>357338
>>357339
>>357341
>>357342
>>357343
The irony of you spamming the thread with potentially triggering material in an attempt to stop the people you're WKing from being triggered is fucking h i l a r i o u s. You're no better than us, retard. Now go back to sucking your cousin's dick and crying on instagram about how sooper sick/speshul you are and how you're "dying".

Sage for fucking rage

No. 357357

>>355903
Laughed so hard at this omg

No. 357363

>>357350

It's about keeping a balance. I use a chair when I'm out, but make sure I do physio exercises at home and swim when I can to keep muscle tone and core stability.

No. 357366

>>357354
So you finally admit that you're worthless pieces of shit. WELL DONE!!

No. 357368

>>355921
What a pathetic little bitch.

No. 357390

>>355978

she keeps posting screenshots and general posts on fb alluding to lolcow, one alluding to it being reporting on the news i'm assuming, and others of just screenshots and how she can't believe this is still going on. kelly, sweetie, maybe if you stopped bringing attention to it, things would die down, but we all know you'd die without attention. she's also accusing farmers of hacking her accounts

No. 357395

>>357390
Cool, how about screenshotting right back and sharing here?

No. 357403

>>357390

LOL everything here was posted by Kelly and is publicly available. Just how dumb can she get?

Funny, she did not screenshot the posts where people discussed the impact she had on their lives. Oh no, lolcow is full of bullies, god forbid her spoonie flock were to think about what their pretending is doing to others!

No. 357413

File: 1500717594605.png (358.55 KB, 504x884, Screen Shot 2017-07-22 at 11.5…)

>>355530

The novelty of Kelly's bullshit has worn off to the point that nobody even comments on her whine about the farm.

Incidentally, who the fuck is Keith Paulien? Is that whom she suspects to leak on her? Did poor dummy not realise these posts are all public?

No. 357416

Jesus. Just looked up #peoplehopetribe. Never have I seen a bunch of more hopeless, whiny fucks, and that's saying something.

Wow.

No. 357428

>>357416

Thank you for this, totally hilarious. I know they don't mean to be but they are. Sad thing is that there are some genuinely seriously ill people interspersed with munchies and fake spoonies.

No. 357458

File: 1500726937932.png (247.28 KB, 1242x1325, IMG_9500.PNG)

>>355770

This site has been a light for me as well. I found her through a mutual follower and thought her case was interesting, but then things weren't adding up. I was especially put off around time she randomly started getting transfusion reactions and blaming it on blood bank mistakes. As a generalist in a laboratory, one reaction is done thing (low incidence antigen perhaps?), but to have reaction after reaction after reaction, it just didn't make sense. And then as quickly as it started, it stopped! She was suddenly able to tolerate her transfusions and never once exclaimed the cause.

Then when she found this site, and how she responded to its content, super attention-seeking. Doesn't care at all, but obsessively clings to everything that's said. Nose up to it, then has a meltdown and shares a video of her sobbing so badly she can't breath. The empty threats are what really get me. "Srsly gonna get the site taken down. Only a matter of time, just wait for it, it's coming!!" Yeah, okay, Kelly. If you have such a knack for shutting down websites within a week, why don't you put those powers to better use and worry about things that actually harm people.

(New poster here and not sure if anything I wrote goes against the rules, also not fully clear on how/when to sage - don't hate me pls.)

No. 357463

>>355980
I posted this up at the end of the last not even noticing it was the end.

Ok so my mum had anemia and after a few tests they found the fibroids. All together it took like max two months to discover the issue. She was then told to stop drinking tea and they put her on a birth control that contained iron supplements in it. The birth control unfortunately didnt shrink the fibroids like they expected so she was scheduled for D&C with ablation. Basically they took out the fibroids and burned the lining of her uterus. No hysterectomy needed! They continued iron supplements until her iron levels came back up. She hasnt had a problem since. So im actually really confused why the med is so expensive? And why a hysterectomy is needed? Im kind of concerned for her that supposedly her doctors want to mame her with a surgery when it isnt needed… surgery no matter what is dangerous first off but two hysterectomys can have long lists of complications.

Sage for blogging

No. 357475

File: 1500733291196.jpg (69.13 KB, 730x852, IMG_1510.JPG)

>>357395

Sorry anon I fell asleep before I could post. Here's one alluding that she went to her local news, I believe

No. 357519


No. 357521

File: 1500742027886.png (323.94 KB, 509x897, wtf.png)

Kelly are you okay?

No. 357524

File: 1500742335065.png (251.76 KB, 495x921, wtf2.png)

Kelly are you having a stroke? Why are you pretending you need to register accounts here? Why are you on farmcow.lol instead of lolcow.farm? Don't you realize that the only way you could've gotten banned was by posting here? Maybe Admin should release the reason you're banned. Have you been drinking? Why are you typing so weird and playing stupid? Kelly I'm worried.

No. 357534

>>357524

I'm trying to figure out who K* P (the obscured name) is, and why she is directly replying. What's the story here?

No. 357536

>>357475

Are we sure it's not about her news segment airing?

No. 357539

>>357536
looks like that post has been deleted by kelly. i think she's legit just gone off the deep end

No. 357542

>>357524
>>357521
Is she accusing Orange of being the one who posted her?

No. 357544

>>357463
Yeah, the whole thing is bullshit. I suspect she realized at some point that people are onto her; she's in too deep with her lies and games, and she needed some gracexcuse to get out of this and try to save face, hence the new problem. As other anons have said, there is ZERO chance this could have been going on without her noticing. Docs would have specifically asked her about abnormal bleeding during the initial differential diagnostic processes, and likely every subsequent consult with other clinicians. There are standard protocols for potential causes and risk factors for different anemias and abnormal bleeding is a no-brainer/first-line query. There is just no way they would have overlooked addressing menses/abnormal vaginal bleeding. Since there has been ZERO mention of this for years, and Kelly has claimed to have some "sooper cereal speshul mystery illnuss yew guise," to go from that to "Oh! Uterine fibroids! How 'bout that?!" is highly suspect. I am 99% certain she is autoexsanguinating. As for fibroid treatment options, there are a litany of potential interventions available, and an order to which one typically pursues them. Each clinician may favor one treatment over another, but still there is a process. You generally try the least invasive, least-risky treatments first unless they are contraindicated. In Kelly's case, medication options such as leuprolide (GnRH agonist) to induce menopause, or embolizing the uterine artery, or ablation like your mom had…there are many treatment options. Hysterectomy is the last resort and would be avoided at all costs in someone like Kelly due to her age and increased risks associated with surgery due to her anemia (the irony).

No. 357560

File: 1500747161033.png (270.98 KB, 750x906, IMG_1869.PNG)

JBN's team decided in "her best interest " to start NG feeds again … the fact that she's been in hospital more than she's actually attended her therapy sessions, how could she be making any sort of progress? Cant overcome or make any sort of breakthrough with an eating disorder- excuse me, disordered eating/ psychosomatic symptoms if you don't put the work in and then instead just obsess over food and your symptoms

No. 357571

>>357560

Yep, I expected this. Turns out, as she's coming to realize, that among Munchies, nobody gives a fuck save very cursorily abut a success story. So she's back to generating drama. She's already found the magic words to utter - 'quality of life', guiding 'her team' slowly down on the path of a permanent feeding tube.

I guess she was unable to stand not being the sickest for five minutes.

No. 357573

File: 1500748523956.png (113.49 KB, 1032x960, IMG_0144.PNG)

I see Kelly is still here… lol.

No. 357576

>>357560

IV morphine makes practically every human being and animal puke and puke. Why has nobody realised this?!

No. 357580

>>357573
Kinda sad she can't satisfy herself with the attention provided by her friends and followers and resorted to be here 24/7. Must be a miserable life for a 30+ woman.

No. 357581

File: 1500749276097.png (106.3 KB, 1015x936, IMG_0145.PNG)

Christ, Kelly, you're dense.

"Not adding up" means just what it says on the tin: it is not consistent with human physiology. I get it, you fancy yourself some super special case and think that you can make up anything and everyone will have to go along with it because you're soooper speshul. For some reason I don't understand, you managed to dupe your medical team for a while. I am sure it gave you the kick and the satisfaction you wanted, a ray of light and excitement amidst a life of mediocrity. Are you feeling proud, having duped everyone? Do you get satisfaction out of deceiving smarter people? You could never possibly aspire to a career in medicine, so you prove to yourself how much smarter you are by deceiving people who work hard to save your life? How do you think those people will feel when it all falls apart, as it inevitably will, and sooner than you'd expect?

In medicine, "not adding up" is not the sign of "small brains" (excuse me, Kelly, what exactly are your credentials to talk about small brains? If you were any good at anything, you would not have had to create this little charade and live off being a soooper brave spoonie warrior!), it's a colloquialism for an "inconsistent presentation", which virtually always means the patient is making shit up, intentionally or unintentionally.

You know, this would be a funny little game if it weren't for the fact that a lot of things will be hurt by your lies once it all unravels. Doctors who devoted strength and compassion to curing you will be left empty and hurt. Blood donors will turn away. Genuinely sick people who helped you or donated you or supported you will be heartbroken.

I applaud you for wanting an exit strategy via the hysterectomy, but I think we deserve the truth, and he longer you stretch this, the worse it will get for everyone.

Oh, and factual reasons for why your claimed story is just physiologically impossible have been laid out over and over and over and over again, but of course you don't screenshot those for your followers, lest they themselves start to think about the gaping holes in your story.

No. 357584

>>357580

Attention is addictive. People with serious personality defects like her don't ever get satisfied. They lack the deep human relatoinships that satisfy us: no long-term partner or spouse, a twin sister who is supportive but not supportive enough to donate bone marrow, no family to speak of and a lot of "friends" and "followers", many of whom probably only follow her out of sympathy/guilt. This echoes her lack of significant achievements, which are replaced by this fake achievement of having deceived the people society sees as particularly clever (doctors). Munchies become Munchies to fill a gap in their lives, and with the internet, they can easily fill the gap created by a lack of accomplishments, lack of a social life, lack of friends and qualities that engender lasting friendships and relatoinshipsm and so on.

No. 357592

>>357576

Eh, not to WK, but so does pain. Sometimes it's better to give morphs if patients are in too much pain to eat. They'll get used to the emetic effect faster than the analgesia, plus she's on cyclizine and ondansetron, which is an odd combination as either of those alone should counteract any nausea from the morphs and whatever other nausea she has.

No. 357604

>>357581
if I were kelly's friend on facebook and saw all these posts, I'd think she was brain damaged or something. No normal person does this.

No. 357617

>>357604
That's because most people are believe her sooper speshul medicuhl stowy. Many of us believed it (see >>355770 and >>355972 and >>356045). I know for me things started to make me uncomfortable with how she would respond to every single negative comment and go completely OTT with it. Then, when she started talking about how the staff at the hospital started accusing her of lying and stuff, I started to question it too. Bladder problems, seizures, random non-specific "allergic" reactions, and some sooper rare undiscovered and completely physiologically impossible medical blood mystery (self described by Kelly here >>356358). And then the reaction to gossip online? Jeeeezus. We're literally just a bunch of fucks sitting around bitching about people, nothing more. Why the fuck must there be such a theatrical response?

No. 357627

>>357617

Idk but I wager that she thinks it's the best way to say that she's actually sooper sick. Except if she was actually as medically speschel as she says, it wouldn't mattter what other people said and she'd ignore it and move on. The overreaction itself is suspicious. Plus, she's putting in an awful lot of energy for a sick person (just saying)

No. 357631

>>357627

And you just gotta love the munchies changing constantly their social media posts/descriptions/etc in response to this thread. If this thread was so pointless and wrong, then why follow it so obsessively?

No. 357634

Dear Munchies: it's 2017. There are no 'medical mysteries' where doctors have no idea what's on with you for four years. It just does not happen anymore, you simpering fucks yearning for the Victorian days when being the too-beautiful-for-this-world heroine inevitably succumbed to consumption of the Ali McGraw subtype (the sole symptom is getting more and more beautiful until you eventually die).

No. 357635

>>357604

When you look at her profile, she responds to things we write here since she's blocked from engaging on this platform. So she has all these random and nonsensical posts riddled throughout her feed with absolutely no context. Her friends are always confused and she rarely lets them know wtf she's on about. She's a mess.

Kelly, it's hilarious that you consistently asked people on here if they had lives outside of this website while you responded to my post earlier within minutes! My time zone is three hours ahead of yours which means you felt the dire need to respond to me on your personal page at like 6 am. Kettle, meet pot.

No. 357636

>>357627

She lives in Canada, not Cameroon. There are haematology centres of excellence in multiple cities, and there's no way her doctors would stumble in the dark for four years rather than refer her on and get rid of her.

No. 357642

What's odd about Kelly is that people stop talking about her on here and she posts paranoid messages on social media. Then, people start up again. It's like she wants the attention from her. People move on and she doesn't like it…?

No. 357645

>>357636
That's an excellent point. She's always at a general hospital and not a speciality blood center.

No. 357649

>>357631
And then there's the constant need to update everyone on every little detail, like they are so important that the world needs to know any change in their health

No. 357650

>>357649

But… she's raising awareness, man!

No. 357652

>>357592
So what I'm wondering is why an NG tube would even be helpful, if vomiting in an issue, wouldn't it just continue with an NG tube, since whatever's going through the tube ends up in her stomach? Just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

No. 357659

>>357652

It's illogical but according to her that's why it's psychosomatic. She vomits if she eats but not via tube.

No. 357662

>>357659

Feeding Tube Deficiency Syndrome. Lol.

No. 357681

File: 1500760075571.gif (25.76 KB, 300x295, IMG_1870.GIF)

I think Nicole's tube is nothing more than a security blanket, she needs more therapy (actually going not appearing in hospital a few days before) not the NG. Also the fact that she is allowed to self insert the NG is beyond crazy to me, especially since she has dissociation episodes, the fact a doctor is ok with that is a bit odd!
Her vomiting is psychosomatic but for some reason the tube "tricks" her brain so she's able to get some sort of nutrition in (since she's SO exhausted from not eating/lack of nutrition)
I'm sure eventually that will fail though and she'll need an NJ or a surgical alternative sigh Was i the only one kind of actually rooting for her? She just seems to want a quick fix and with psychological/somatic/functional/ whatever you want to call it, there's not always going to be a quick fix - you have to WORK at it …

No. 357682

Just want to put this out there…some of the people Kelly follows are the most entertaining munchies! especially the ones with private accounts (they get so excited when you follow them!). Srsly. You can find gold in there…some even better than Kelly.

No. 357687

Lol Kelly's recent video about how she felt off so she googled it and then told the doctor she has something serious so she could get some serious meds.

No. 357688

>>357681

I wonder what would happen if she didn't get the NG. Would she just vomit forever and ever? I reckon if she overrode it hard enough, she'd find it stopped and she could manage. I just think she's not ready to accept it in the same way as person with anorexia can't accept they are underweight.

No. 357696

>>357524

96 tabs! She's really lost it…

No. 357701

>>357687
Wow I hope all the doctors in Canada aren't that incompetent

No. 357704

>>357687

Lol, she got coamoxiclav. That's the mildest antibiotic after Neosporin cream. It's handed out like candy for any colds that don't go away, animal bites, etc., even if it shouldn't really.

No. 357718

>>357682

This is an imageboard. Pics pls.

No. 357720

>>357687

Not wk here however, that video is supposed to be a joke I think if u listen to it in the beginning, she making fun of munchies! Absolutely sad, she is thoroughly obsessed with this thread and she's way beyond if she contacted the news bcuz they're gonna look into her info too to make sure there is a story there, may end up screwing herself in the end!

No. 357738

>>357720

Jesus I almost feel bad she's so delusional

No. 357753

>>357688

She can vomit up the NG tube too. I can't believe they'd let her insert her own tube at leisure. Like, if it suddenly became inconvenient and she had to wait around in the hospital for it to be reinserted every time, she'd soon give it up.

No. 357769

I was reading the Guru Gossip thread on the Frey Life (not a munchie, but probably does have an ED and exploits her illness) and there are several morons saying that Chronically Jaquie is better because she has superior hygiene, handles her illnesses "with grace", and similar crap. Even suggestions that she's sicker than Mary Frey, who has CF. top kek, she sure wishes she was.

I can't bring myself to break the sad news that she's a towering munchie to them. They can figure it out for themselves.

No. 357782

>>357769
if the frey life woman has cf, she's thin because cf causes malabsorption of food and fighting constant lung infections causes weight loss. this is a fact and why almost everyone with cf has a feeding tube at one point or another.

No. 357814

>>357769
>>357782
She looks like a normal weight to me?

No. 357823

>>357642
Wow, you're right. It's sort of weird that she claims WE are the ones harassing her but when we move onto someone else, she spergs out and talks about this thread to bring herself up as a topic again.

>>357782
This. It causes weight loss. And I don't understand why people think the frey life is milking her illness. She has CF, a pretty serious disease that kills a lot of people.

No. 357831

>>357769
The Frey life is really the only chronic illness instagram I'd follow (if I was willing to follow them), because she actually has an illness that requires all the medical stuff she does and is usually fatal, but also she actually lives her life and doesn't turn it into a constant stream of 'oh poor me I'm so sick'. She does the medical things required to have a normal life, which is the opposite of that Jacque girl, who has an illness that is not fatal, but who's life revolves around her illness and how sooper speschel it makes her

No. 357832

>>357782
And people with cf use up tons of calories just breathing and fighting near-constant infections. They have feeding tubes to supplement eating normally. My friend's kid has cf, and they try to put a little extra weight on her, because she's sick a lot and is always losing it, even eating as much or more than a typical kid

No. 357834

>>357769

The Frey life does not belong on this thread at all, read up on CF…. unlike the people mentioned here, she lives her life even on days where she can hardly breathe

No. 357835

>>357823
Yeah and the white knights and munchies that come on here say by far the worst things, even threatening

No. 357839

File: 1500774884976.png (134.31 KB, 640x1006, IMG_0426.PNG)

If anyone's wondering, CFers are automatically dealt a shitty hand

No. 357849

File: 1500775455747.png (171.15 KB, 750x1017, IMG_1872.PNG)

Kek, when did MLS become a "Medical Mystery" ?

No. 357850

>>357849
Hahaha probably because no one can diagnose her with any illnesses. Because she doesn't have any!

No. 357851

>>357849

It's a mystery how she keeps on getting medical care?

No. 357871

>>357720
If Kelly is planning or has gone to the news with her condition and her gofundme, she should look up Stelianos Psaroudakis. He's a man who received an injury from a barbed wire fence and made up a story about how he was biking in a public area and he hit the fence and his $5000 bike was stolen. The thing is, there was never a bike and he was never in the area he claimed to be. His story had elements of truth- he did have an injury- but it was mostly lies.

I only bring this up because Kelly's story is falling apart much in the same way as Stelianos'. She currently only has a small group of people scrutinizing her. Lolcow is nothing. If she goes to the news and her story and fundraiser blows up, you can bet that people outside of the weird overlap between the chronic illness and the bitchy 4chan refugees are going to start asking questions.

No. 357874

>>357871
*chronic illness community

No. 357886

Has anyone seen this??

http://globalnews.ca/news/2587368/kelowna-womans-undiagnosed-blood-disorder-baffles-doctors/

Posted March of 2016, saying Kelly is 30 years old. I also find it interesting that they didn't even interview her doctors for the segment. She said they said they don't know the cause. Huh.

No. 357887

>>357886
It was posted in the last thread.

No. 357888

>>357886
>I’m becoming more and more intolerant to blood

Is blood intolerance like coeliac but for vampires?

No. 357889

File: 1500778291150.png (23.5 KB, 507x272, kellyfb.PNG)

Kelly still waxing incoherent on her Facebook. Even her friends have no idea what she's on about.

No. 357899

>>357887

Should have figured! New here (came after seeing her crying video which started with the thread). I just thought I'd point out that from that article she'd be 31 this year. But there have been comments that she's 34?

No. 357908

>>357899
She likes to lie a lot. She's claimed to be 30, 24, etc. but she accidentally posted a document with her real birth year not blurred out.

No. 357915

>>357889
Imagine being so obsessed with strangers on the internet that you throw your image and reputation that your friends and loved ones have of you under the bus…

No. 357932

>>357915
Well, if strangers on the internet give you the sympathy and attention you crave but that your real friends and family won't give you, I guess it's worth it? I wouldn't think so, but it's pretty well established that girl's got issues.

No. 357936

>>357932
I guess a normal person would spin the negative attention in a different way in order to collect said sympathy, whereas what she's doing right now just makes her look guilty, paranoid, and psychotic.

No. 357937

File: 1500782322792.png (660.44 KB, 1536x2048, hmg3.png)

HypermobileGuy has realized that not all attention is good attention. Let's see how long this "not talking about my health" lasts…

No. 357938

File: 1500782589391.png (737.06 KB, 640x1136, mbv11.png)

Some more woo from MyBlondeVoyage and the disreputable clinic.

No. 357939

File: 1500782679495.png (3.91 MB, 1536x2048, mbv12.png)

> more pills make you look more sick

No. 357941

File: 1500782716061.png (1.84 MB, 1536x2048, mbv13.png)

Of course she's asking for other stories/symptoms to mimic.

No. 357942

>>357936
Definitely. Also a normal person would never get themselves into this position in the first place. Normal people don't relish in being sick.

No. 357943

>>357938
Um, pretty sure this is what they give people with herpes kek

No. 357945

Samefag, sorry. The image above this is from StrongerthanPOTS, not MBV.
She's also posted identical images asking for advice on Magnesium supplements, craniosacral therapy, pacemakers, ports, PICC lines, Hyperbaric oxygen therapy and a low histamine diet AMONG OTHERS. Phew!

No. 357947

>>357943

IIRC she does have mono/glandular fever at the moment which is a virus.

No. 357948

File: 1500782978192.png (79.67 KB, 640x1136, IMG_0427.PNG)

>>357943
kek yeah it is

No. 357953

>>357888

LOL :)

(In case it was a serious question, what she means is that she's having, or pretends to have, more and more hypersensitivity reactions to transfusions)

No. 357954

File: 1500783469787.png (111.99 KB, 640x890, IMG_0428.PNG)

>>357947
Antivirals are like antibiotics, somewhat specific to the virus being treated. Valtrex won't do shit for mono

Sage for medfagging

No. 357955

>>357954

Then at a guess, she's having a cold sore reappear at this time when her immune system is struggling. At least I hope so, or her doctor is an idiot.

No. 357956

>>357954

Eh, valaciclovir is under investigation as a treatment for mono, with some very inconclusive results - it has some positive virological results but no real placebo controlled clinical trials have proven its efficacy against mono: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17369082

My money is on any doctor who is disreputable enough to run a woo clinic to also be quite content prescribing a more recent and thus non-generic and more expensive antiviral, even if the evidence is less robust.

Sage for countermedfagging.

No. 357957

>>357955
Yeah that's a possibility. It's still hilarious that she posted that, since the most well know use (due to many annoying commercials back in the day) is genital herpes. Even if it's for cold sores it isn't the kind of thing I would want to brag about.

Of course that's just me

No. 357958

>>357957
IZ GOT DA SOOPER SPESCHEL HERPS

No. 357960

>>357956
Yeah mono is just one of those wait-it-out-cause-it-won't-kill-you illnesses. It sucks but it's pretty common and you'll be fine without major medical intervention

No. 357963

>>357956
And I'm sure it means more money for the woohoo doctor and clinic that probably aren't covered by insurance

No. 357966

>>357963

She's in the UK. But the Breakspear Clinic is definitely not NHS.

No. 357969

>>357957

Then she's definitely in Munchie territory when even a herpes medication is something to show off.

No. 357973

>>357937
Probably about as long as JBN lasted

(Not very)

No. 357975

File: 1500784827287.png (1.29 MB, 1242x2208, IMG_9506.PNG)

So Kelly took a screenshot of that comment, looking to be about 13 minutes after it was written, which was nearly a week ago, and is just now posting it to her followers like some sort of revelation. Who's got the small brain now?

No. 357978

>>357975
>a person can onlybtske so much
>fuvkers like you know nothing about me
Crytyping from a 30 year old? Kek.

If she wants us to stop, why does she keep bringing up old posts and dredging herself up on this board?

No. 357981

File: 1500785283635.png (119.74 KB, 640x860, IMG_8966.PNG)

>>357975
The comments are priceless. People are getting so sick of it.

No. 357984

Anyone noticing the comment above the one she's calling out is pink? Does that mean she wrote that one herself??

No. 357992

>>357984

oh shiiiiiiiiit

No. 358000

>>357984
If you tap the poster's number on a post it will turn pink. Doesn't mean she wrote it unfortunately but I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that she did. I'm sure admin could confirm.

No. 358002

File: 1500786517989.png (30.81 KB, 637x231, IMG_8968.PNG)

>>357975
Samefagging but holy cow… this comment she got on that post is right on the money.

No. 358004

>>358000

I tapped your post's number and it brought up a comment box. I tapped the number of the post you were referencing, and that post turned darker blue. The only pink post I can see is my own ("oh shiiiiiiit").

No. 358005

File: 1500786778219.png (113.61 KB, 640x1104, IMG_8970.PNG)

>>358004
Tap "No.", not the number.

No. 358006

>>358005

Ahhh! But this doesn't discount the possibility that Kelly may have written the previous post herself anyway.

No. 358008

>>358006
Agreed, and admin could confirm that.

No. 358015

>>358010

So the "evil bullying forum" becomes a way for her to get more attention….because she's the one bullying herself.

No. 358017

It looks like Kelly has deleted her facebook?

No. 358018

These are the "all-but-confirmed" Kelly posts:

>>353085
>>353056
>>353165
>>353184
>>353199
>>353210
>>353306
>>353307
>>353308
>>353319
>>353320
>>353333
>>353343
>>353351
>>353274
>>353353
>>353354
>>353356
>>353375

(As confirmed here: >>353757 )

After that, the other ones were:

>>353778 (She called out a farmer directly by name.)
>>353780

And some guesses, where the poster makes some spelling errors that seem pretty unique to her:

>>353774
>>353761
>>352290
>>352634
>>353638
>>353733
>>353724

No. 358020

>>358017
She should have just made it private.
Watch now she's going to reactivate it tomorrow and claim she was hacked. Unless her password is "blood", I doubt it.

No. 358021

>>358017

Looks that way to me too.

No. 358028

File: 1500789268434.png (9.54 KB, 609x174, answer.png)

Yep, I think she's going to be claiming that a mean bully hacker got into her Facebook now.

Maybe her password really was "blood".

No. 358033

>>357718

She's gone private again :( so I can't find them. One girl I remember was basically claiming to be the same as her. They probably share tips and tricks

No. 358039

It's so weird how she (kelly) ignores every single positive comment but will watch obsessively waiting for anyone who disagrees with her or questions her, then immediately replies to them or even makes a post about it. She also refuses to block them even when everyone says to ignore/block/report. She's an attention seeker but seems to only respond to negative attention.

No. 358042

>>358039
She's playing the victim card. That's like, most of these munchies entire lives. When they're a victim every little thing they do, no matter how childish gets applauded and cooed over because other people like to feel empathetic and kind by cooing and clapping and white-knighting.

When you get used to being called brave and special and tough just for existing, being normal and not getting patted on the arse for going to the supermarket feels like someone has robbed you of something precious. They like the lack of responsibility and the reassurance that if everything goes to shit they have a ready excuse and a hospital bed waiting where nobody can be mad at them or expect them to be adults. None of them will ever get better or mature or do anything but wallow around in a stagnant pool of their own making, slowly allowing themselves to get so invested in their lives that they genuinely feel wronged when questioned or held accountable for bad or silly behaviour. It's sad and it's lonely but they seem to love it

No. 358044

File: 1500796171604.jpg (384.65 KB, 749x1011, You_Doodle_2017-07-23T07_49_05…)

>>358039

Sorry for the bad photo editing job but this commentor has a great point

No. 358053

>>358044

I wonder how long these comments stay up before they mysteriously disappear.

Or until Kelly makes a video crying about them.

No. 358059

>>357782
oh my god, don't you know it's possible to have cf and also a mental illness?
Groundbreaking.

Anyway, not saying Mary Frey necessarily belongs in the thread (since her primary complaint isn't in question), but she was only mentioned IN COMPARISON TO CHRONICALLY JAQUIE. sad deluded idiots on GG think Jaquie is better, we know she obviously isn't.

No. 358071

>>357954
>>357943
>>357957
EBV (the virus that causes infectious mononucleosis) is also in the herpesvirus family. Valacyclovir may be effective, as >>357956 mentioned.

No. 358072

File: 1500802857277.gif (493.61 KB, 200x200, IMG_0106.GIF)

>>358018
So basically kelly has been self posting on this thread negatively about herself and other spoonies and then commenting on social media about how everyone is being mean to her.
When the board stops talking about her she makes a new post to bring the discussion back to her.

Can we stop talking about her like we did with JBN to stop giving her the attention she craves?

No. 358079

File: 1500804512375.jpg (316.84 KB, 900x503, wtf.jpg)

Pill porn :D It's her pill breakfast(Tabletten Frühstück).

Caption on the right photo? She went for a walk for like 15 minutes. Her legs starting shaking severely and her heart was beating fast. She might has POTS.

This makes me furious. First she thinks she has Gastroparesis and now POTS? She already has the diagnosis of "Morbus Tietz" and it's not enough for her? When you ain't eating all the mentioned symptoms(no energy, trembling legs, fast heart rate) are normal.

She has RA for 9 years. Under another photo she wrote that she has Gastritis for over 10 years. How can you get chronic gastritis(caused by medicine) at the age of 16 or under?

No. 358081

File: 1500805463838.png (364.5 KB, 1865x1009, IMG_0146.PNG)

Oh God, Kelly is still sperging about that one comment weeks ago and now is playing a pity party.

Yeah, God forbid your beloved enablers saw the posts that set out, in clear medical terms, why you are full of shit and how you have hurt others. Maybe I shall link a few of those. Let's see how many of these lovely people will unconditionally support you when it turns out that you have caused real life harm to real people by your Munchie antics, never mind wasting blood that could have gone to someone in actual medical need. Have you considered someone is probably dead because you needed your biweekly ballet and blood party?

No. 358085

>>358018

At least some of the guesses, based on the double H spelling of Munchhausen, is me. I'm of German descent and German was my semi-first language. There is no consonant deletion in German when the final consonant and the first consonant in the constituent parts of a compound noun are the same, so 'Munchhausen' seems intuitively more correct than the anglicized version Munchausen. :)

No. 358150

File: 1500813959793.png (564.09 KB, 937x519, wtfkarolyn.png)

On a serious note, why the fuck is Karolyn so crazy? In what universe does it seem to be a good idea and/or chic to turn your docs office into a fashion shoot, and then launch into a meta explanation about how your weird instagramming is totes a statement?

Just why???? She is the human embodiment of the biggest cringe.

No. 358172

>>358081

Amazing! She could not even last a day off of Instagram! This post is now down, I guess she did not get the reaction that she wanted - since we all know too well that Kelly deletes the comments she doesn't like and or agree with!

No. 358179

File: 1500818935575.png (581.34 KB, 821x594, wtfnicole.png)

And Nicole is back to medsplaining why her super serious psychosomatic complaints totally justify having a feeding tube, and you're just being unfair u guise!!1!

But for real, I like how it's obvious Nicole obsessively checks this thread. Some of her wording about self induced purging is very similar to the stuff on here.

Tell you what, Nicole: you said you were bullied as a girl in high school. As a 24 year old woman, you need to grow up and get over bog-standard bullying, and recognize that we are not bullying you for your weight, and it's your pattern of thinking that is warped and pathological.

You have an eating disorder. You are not going to get pity here by showing your belly and emphasizing how sad and disabled you are. We only see you entrenching yourself more and more in your delusional thought patterns.

Grow the fuck up. Get over yourself. You aren't special, and neither winning pity pageants nor having a psychosomatic condition is going to make you special.

You know what will? Recognizing you have a problem, taking steps to address it, and learning how to flourish without needing absurd amounts of attention.

No. 358185

File: 1500819840820.png (1.42 MB, 1819x749, Screen Shot 2017-07-23 at 16.2…)

So… which one is it now? "This bitch saves herself" or "pay for treatment for my imaginary illnesses that I have largely developed when I realised that without them, I'm just another spoilt affluent white girl who wants to be a rebel and nobody listened to me… but now, I'm disabled AND queer AND now I can go all activist full time, while you pay my bills and healthcare!"

No. 358186

i want to say something about kelly but i'm scared she's gonna figure out who i am and start splerging about me in here

sage for not contributing sorry -_-

No. 358187

File: 1500820059982.png (516.89 KB, 930x445, Screen Shot 2017-07-23 at 16.1…)

Yeah, Ellie got her priorities right: "Mum, take a photo of me after an incredibly tame intervention that I insisted be performed under GA, and to hell with the costs,* and send it to my rep, because that'll make them somehow rethink things, they're too dumb to know that this was a minor elective procedure!"

*(A port change takes about 15-20 minutes, it's an IR procedure not a surgery, and generally consists of a tiny cut around your clavicle and a somewhat larger one for the pouch where the port goes. I've had this done at least ten times, the last four times I haven't had any analgesia for it, the other times I got a local. Of COURSE she would insist on getting a full GA and then looking as pathetic as possible. Also, getting your lung punctured at port insertions is not something that 'happens', or something that you wouldn't notice, moron.)

No. 358188

>>358186

Just change some details.

No. 358189

>>358179

It's not self-induced, in the sense that anorexia is not self-induced. But she had an ED. She has a psychiatric disorder that is affecting her body. I don't know what other term they need to put on it for her to finally fucking accept she does not have gastroparesis or some other condition.

She's (rightly) worried that if she has to come to terms with the fact that it's all in her head (in this case, it really truly is!), people (herself included) will think she should just suck it up, get her head fixed and start eating like a human.

But no, she's going on with these bullshit explanations of what "her team" believes. No sane medic would believe that someone who needs to be tricked into not swallowing food is anything but an eating disordered patient. She does not need an NG that will mask her illness, she needs to go to her fucking therapy, for which BTW the waiting lists are huge, and yet she nonchalantly refuses to give a toss about them.

No. 358190

>>358188
she's symptom/illness carbon copying off a few legitimate people about needing a hysterectomy and calling it having her uterus removed is incredibly annoying. its a hysterectomy just call it what it is if you're gonna fake needing one all of a sudden

No. 358191

>>358187
to be fair, sometimes port changes do require GA. Especially if the port won't come out easily and local anesthetic didn't help.

No. 358193

>>358190

Now THAT's interesting.

I saw that months before she was dx'd with MS, she added a number of people with MS who were public about it. I'm friends with a few of them and they recounted how she was asking them questions about the diagnostic process, about whether she can be diagnosed without a spinal tap (she was deathly keen on that!), whether she can be diagnosed without an MRI (!!!), how their symptoms began, etc.

God, it's annoying.

No. 358195

>>358193
when i commented about how she was inaccurate in her recounting of the "process" it would be to get her "uterus removed" (it wouldn't be if she was bleeding as badly as she claims) she deleted my comments :\

No. 358197

>>358195
Yeah, if she's bleeding as bad as she says she is, no doc is gonna wait months and months to do a hysterectomy.

also I can't find her fb account, wonder if she deleted it.

No. 358198

>>358042

I have been sick most of my life with a disease I was born with… I can't believe how right you are. It is true. Once you start getting better, you get held to a different standard.

Nobody thinks I am special now just because I got out of bed. Nobody is impressed. I just had not really thought about it. Of course I am not going to jump back in bed- I actually have a life I am living and a career I am building.

But damn. I do miss the slack I got…

Sage for no new info.

No. 358201

>>358197
i follow two people who just had "emergency" hysterectomies as in they presented with extreme symptoms and their doctors acted within a couple of months and now they're both symptom free. but of course kelly is sooper speshul and needs a sooper speshul uterus removal she can't just get better like the two girls i follow.

No. 358203

>>358189

Agreed on all points, but when I was saying "Self induced", I was referring to the vomiting, which as she has said in previous posts is part of her binge/purge cycle. I know she has an ED, and it probably is atypical bulimia or something, but her purging isn't the kind of "cram your fingers down your throat" self induced. It's self induced in that she feels guilt over eating, that guilt makes her feel nauseous, and she compounds the nausea until she throws up. I think everyone on the planet has had that queasy stomach from feeling bad/guilty/anxious about something, it's just Nicole actively works at it until she's throwing up nonstop.

Still seconding she needs to get her head in order.

No. 358214

The thing that always struck me odd about Kelly? How well her background fit with the typical Munchie (from here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2990557/):

> There is little agreement or evidence as to what causes Munchausen's syndrome or Munchausen's syndrome by proxy. Some theories suggest that the patient (or caregiver) may have experienced any of the following:

>
> Abuse or neglect as a child
>Reliving an earlier serious illness over and over again due to difficulty understanding or coping with the experience
> Identifying with a close friend or relative who has had a serious illness
> Very low self-image
> Inflated self-image
> Inability to trust authority figures, such as doctors
> Overwhelming feelings of guilt, thinking they need to be punished for something
> Brain dysfunction, though no genetic links or abnormalities have been found in the brains of people with either syndrome
> Presence of personality disorder, depression, or substance abuse.

So, of these, Kelly meets:

> Abuse or neglect as a child


I wouldn't be surprised, given how she hasn't commented on her parents a single time. Which is odd as a first degree relative other than her sister would be important to understand and/or fix her haematological issues.

> Identifying with a close friend or relative who has had a serious illness


…or in her case, with a fuckload of people on Instagram who are adored even if they have not much going for them, because they're sick.

> Very low self-image


She used to self-harm, so I wouldn't be surprised…

> Presence of personality disorder, depression, or substance abuse.


Again, she used to self-harm, so I would not be surprised if she had at the very least a personality disorder (my money is on BPD).

What is quite remarkable to me is that she's lacking solid real world relationships. It's easy to Munchie it up if you don't know anyone who would doubt you, it's easy to pretend you're on your deathbed when there is no-one who sees you being perfectly fine just minutes before.

No. 358220

>>358201

I know I'm a broken record here but I just don't understand how someone without an identified clotting disorder or thrombocytopenia can lose that much blood. And I can't believe doctors are willing to maim a 30/34 year old young lady permanently without at least checking it out.

No. 358227

>>358214
Yassss! When I first started following her I knew something wasn't right. I brought up Munchie in an IG post a few weeks back and her followers went freaking ballistic! She fits the definition exactly!
Why don't these doctors see this and admit her to psych! Remove her port so she can't drain blood or rub who knows what shizz into it to infect it! Remember awhile ago she was in the hospital for about three weeks with the port infection that had three different bacteria in it come on now that she rubbed her she is on it did she rub floor dirt on it what did she put in that to make it at that infected!
I also see that her recent post got 5 comments lol! Even her followers are sceptical now I hope!
Kelly, stop with the

No. 358229

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I'm fairly convinced this is the idea behind the hysterectomy: giving Kelly a way to save face and retreat.

I just think she's too far gone.

No. 358233

>>358214

To add to that, in the last thread someone discovered a whole album on her facebook dedicated to her two year stay in the local psychiatric hospital. She deleted the album as soon as a screenshot was posted here. Two years is pretty serious. But it was even weirder that she documented the whole thing and had it displayed for all to see on her public fb account.

She's never mentioned it on IG. She photoshopped out her scars for a long time before she gave up and proudly displayed them.

She's clearly mentally ill, which worries me. Mental illness on it's own is nothing to be ashamed of but it becomes a problem when you get all these other people involved and manipulated or tricked.

Her behaviour right now is extremely erratic and I sincerely hope she stops all this somehow and gets the help she needs. Kelly if you're reading this, please look after yourself now. You've got a lot of people worried about you at this point, which might have been what you wanted. But stop digging yourself deeper, it's only going to get worse the longer you let this all go on. Do what you need to do to get yourself out of this mess, save face if you have to, but at this point there's just too much evidence here against you. Put aside your ego, even for a moment and try to consider this from a different perspective. I'm not trying to be malicious here I just want to help you make the right choice and get the help you really need. You're the only one who can do that.

No. 358237

File: 1500822593637.png (454.49 KB, 640x1136, IMG_5167.PNG)

This is a goldmine "#notfaking"

Claims to do barrel racing, yet suffers fibro, CFS and narcolepsy, that in it's self doesn't add up since horseriding is physically demanding, especially something as intense as barrel racing.

No. 358245

>>358237

Oh Jesus. She claims to have narcolepsy - that alone would exclude you from riding. What if you fall asleep during a race?!

No. 358247

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>>358237

Look at this fucking Vogmask story.

This has got everything:

> muh surgical mask

> people don't understand me
> shit that totally happened dot txt

No. 358252

File: 1500823108218.png (516.08 KB, 802x599, Screen Shot 2017-07-23 at 17.1…)

Lol #brittlebones? Yeah, you totally have osteogenesis imperfecta, a disease that causes short growth, short limbs and so many fractures, most people your age would be wheelchair bound full time.

Why do they have to do this?! Why do they have to role play something that other people would give their half lives to escape?

No. 358258

File: 1500823273726.png (613.21 KB, 888x587, Screen Shot 2017-07-23 at 17.2…)

Someone explain to me why functional neurological disorder requires a fucking surgical mask.

No. 358267

>>358252
not only that but OI has a distinct feature in which the sclera of the eyes are gray.

No. 358271

>>358267

Bluish, not gray.

Sage for medfagging.

No. 358274

>>358271
sorry, yeah. I meant blue.

No. 358286

>>358258

Is this a new cow? Got background info?

No. 358289

>>358252
"Brittlebones" could refer to osteoporosis which is at least marginally more believable

Also osteogenesis imperfecta has different types and degrees of severity and the milder type is most common so someone with it wouldn't necessarily be wheelchair bound.

sage for medstudentfagging

No. 358339

File: 1500826200655.jpg (263.98 KB, 1071x1762, IMG_20170723_100912.jpg)

Vampire Kelly. Let's "hang out". Upside down. Like a bat.

No. 358348

>>358339

If you're able to get that excited about blood an dpost about it, do you honestly need it that bad?

No. 358355

>>358247

Um, yeah, none of those things she's tagged need a mask at all. As it's been previously discussed here, surgical masks are literally only needed for immune compromised people (idk about the whole allergies thing), and those stupid vog masks say themselves they're not for protection against germs. But the speschel spoonies points!

No. 358357

>>358189

Really what she needs is long term inpatient psychiatric care without a feeding tube, where she's forced to acknowledge and treat the underlying issues, instead of continuing to weasel out of therapy. But by all means, continue to enable her!

No. 358366

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Totally serious theory: The reason Kelly has so many ages listed is because she's actually thousands of years old. She can't remember how old she's pretending to be this time, in modern-day Canada. Did she say she was 24? 30? 34? She's been so many ages over the centuries, and had so many back stories that she just can't keep them straight. That's why things don't add up sometimes. She's getting her "lives" mixed up.

Pic related: Another vampire, before and after feeding.

No. 358378

A few times Kelly has said she CAN NOT travel outside of Canada for treatment or testing. Anyone know why? She's been mysterious about it. Possibly connected to all these name and age changes and shady behaviour? Her twin travels all the time.

No. 358383

>>358378
idk but it is weird af that her last name is pretty much made up. everyone else in her family uses their proper last name.

No. 358385

>>358187
Chronically Jacquie does this shit, too. It's actually disgusting that they're so desperate for attention. I hate the whole spoonie attitude that their illness and medical care makes them special. News flash: it doesn't. Hospitals and clinics are full of people every day, many of them who are much sicker. Yet plenty of those people manage to survive without all the pathetic social media posts.

No. 358388

>>358383
Maybe she's a felon? I know it's an out-there theory, but that would honestly be more interesting than her creepy blood obsession

No. 358395

>>358378
Because quite possibly the doctors here would call her bluff and she knows it.

No. 358406

>>358378
Because she knows that there's a simple answer for her symptoms and doesn't want to waste the money on medical tourism when nothing is even wrong.

No. 358415

>>358357

I agree. I don't know why they don't just call a spade a spade. She has an eating disorder.

Also, I have no idea if she purges or not but I've seen eating disordered people purge and they're so good at it, they just look like it's involuntary puke. Nicole admitted that she overheats sometimes.

No. 358416

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No. 358417

If I remember correctly she specifically has an aversion to travelling itself. Like she literally can't get into the country or something. She got mad when people were asking about it and refused to say anything else about it. What if she has something on her record that prevents her getting in? Perhaps something that caused her 2 year in a psych hospital. That's a looong stay. What if she was sentenced to that instead of prison because of her mental state.

And maybe now she goes by a different name so she won't be recognised or associated with her crimes.

She's already proven she's not a rational person and she doesn't have rational responses to stressful situations.

No. 358418

>>358357

Won't happen. The cost to the NHS of one day in a psych inpatient unit is around £1,500. A PEG tube is £30 plus insertion (around £400, if I remember correctly).

No. 358421

>>358418
But a lot less ethical, which I would hope would be taken into consideration. Also, why do unnecessary surgery? Granted I'm not in the uk, but it seems like it's been identified that it's psychiatric and not a physical problem, and peg tubes are pretty invasive for something that's medically unnecessary

No. 358422

>>358417

I don't know anything about the Canadian legal system, but I know going the other direction (us to Canada) there's a ton of things that prevent you from entering in. Could be that she just has a dui or something. Although it would be much more entertaining if it was something that required a two year sentence

No. 358427

>>358416

Everything in this screams eating disorder. Especially stating that having a tube will let her control her food intake. It's just giving her what she wants and slapping a giant band aid on the underlying issues

No. 358429

>>358421

Frankly, she probably knows how to play the system. The three magic words to use is 'reversible', 'quality of life' and 'malnutrition', probably also 'severe pain'. Those magic words can get her what she's looking for. It is a pretty well accepted principle of medical practice that if remedying the root cause might take quite some time, we cannot simply let the patient hang out to dry. And so, she would be provided with a tube to tide her over while she undergoes therapy. But then she will start to refuse to attend therapy and they'll be stuck tube feeding her until she decides she's had it and/or decides to graduate to something more serious like TPN.

No. 358431

>>358422

That wouldn't explain the name/age changes and her inpatient stay. I just looked back at the old thread and based on her posts about her stay, it was involuntary. And according to the person who posted the screen shots, the hospital she was in was for the "worst of the worst".

It's definitely possible that her travelling issue isn't related to these other things but it just all seems like too much of a coincidence.

No. 358433

>>358422

Her comment about the doors slapping her on the butt on her last photo from the mental institution suggest she was probably on a psych hold. As such she might have a 'severe mental illness' that means she might not be eligible to enter the US.

In any case it is quite odd. Where did she find her last name, and why is she not using the one she was born with? And what is the story about her family? A lot seems to be off balance there.

No. 358438

>>358433

there's just so much questionable shit. Not just all these details, but the way she behaves around sharing these details.

A few days ago I took a look through a photo album on her FB and in between obvious cries for help (photoshopped pictures of her crying face with a creepy smile plastered over top with "I'm fine" or something) there were these dark pics of her lurking outside another, abandoned mental institution in Kelowna. Just really fucking weird. Not to mention she's 34, and acting like a literal child in response to people questioning everything.

No. 358439

>>358431

To be quite fair, even if she cannot travel abroad, there's no reason why she could not go to a Canadian haematology specialist unit. I looked in our referral database and there's a specialist rare blood disorders unit in Calgary and another in Toronto and, further afield, two in Vancouver (one adult and one pediatric).

She's full of shit and her doctors have probably figured out she's lying about her oh so serious illness, and they don't want to embarrass themselves by referring her onwards. Quite simply, there is no other reason I can think of why someone would not be seen by a specialist unit but instead keep getting bags of blood every other week. Blood is expensive and precious.

No. 358440

>>358438

I think she enjoys infantilizing herself the way many sociopaths do: it makes them look harmless and deserving of help and compassion. Maybe she had a rough early life and hasn't had much love in her teens and twenties, so she's trying to recreate those years by behaving like a child, Whether that's something strategic or whether this is her real self, I don't know.

No. 358465

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Just for shits I went back to the beginning of her Instagram. It was all ballet photos until she realized the attention she would get with the blood transfusion pics. This is the first time she explains her diagnosis. She would add comments for weeks after posting with random tags to draw people to the photos.

No. 358470

>>358465

But then she switched to saying she was a medical mystery with an unknown blood disorder, so did she always have a diagnosis, or never have one and just pulled that one off the internet and then faked the symptoms? The more people find out about her, the less sense everything makes

No. 358474

>>358465

Okay, I looked this "nodular regenerative hyperplasia" up, and it's a liver disease. Nothing in the couple articles I looked at mentioned anything about blood or bone marrow issues (although I just skimmed). Doesn't seem like she did her homework for that one

No. 358475

>>358465
It's extremely hard to be active when your hb is 6-7 and you have zero iron. Even when your body is "used to it". That's "constant fatigue, weakness, tachychardia, and dizziness"-territory.

No. 358482

>>358474

The symptoms for this are actually GI bleeding (easy to recognize, doesn't stay mysterious for very long), swollen liver, and liver failure. I'm not a doctor, but I'm ruling this out, unless she had this and it resolved, in which case, why has she drug her "mysterious" illness out so long?

No. 358487

File: 1500835362691.png (776.7 KB, 640x1136, IMG_7042.PNG)

Found her middle name?

No. 358488

File: 1500835442307.png (192.72 KB, 640x1136, IMG_7043.PNG)

Seems her sister was willing to do the bone marrow transplant at one point. Not sure what happened to that plan.

No. 358489

File: 1500835463430.png (174.86 KB, 640x1136, IMG_7044.PNG)

Seems her sister was willing to do the bone marrow transplant at one point. Not sure what happened to that plan. Part 2

No. 358490

>>358252
Lmao this idiot posted a picture of her script and didn't blur anything out….including her cell phone number.

No. 358491

>>358465

What the fuck is she talking about? NRH is a liver disease, it has to do with portal hypertension and is usually drug induced… it's not an anaemia!

No. 358493

>>358488

That's also bullshit. Iron overload is usually treated with iron chelators like deferasirox or deferoxamine in the first line.

No. 358494

>>358482
and liver failure would eventually produce jaundice, no?

No. 358495

>>358490

PHN is patient hospital number, the patient's hospital specific primary key in the EMR, not their phone ;)

No. 358497

>>358494

As would most forms of autoimmune anaemia. We are just supposed to believe the iron 'disappears'? What the fuck is she talking about. Iron only leaves the body in two ways: chelation or exsanguination.

No. 358501

>>358497
Fucking this. Musical diagnoses, grasping at straws. She is autoexsanguinating; that's why they don't like to send her home with her port accessed. I am more sure of it than ever.

No. 358504

>>358495
In the top left corner, there is an address. The it says Home Phone: Not on File. Mobile Phone: #-#-#### (but has an actual number listed). Then it says Sex: F. I didn't realize this was comparable to a medical record number, or PHN, or whatever you call it.

No. 358505

>>358501

Yup. In the end, that makes the most sense, especially since she apparently has pretty severe mental health issues.

No. 358510

>>358504
Munchies don't care how much personal information they give out, they're so desperate for the attention that personal safety is nearly completely disregarded

No. 358513

>>358504
Oh, sorry, was looking at sth differnent. Sorry.

No. 358517

>>358187
This is not always the case. Depending on a patient's vasculature, health status, and the comfort level of both patient and clinician are taken into account in determining whether CVC or port placement should be done in IR or OR. Pneumothorax is absolutely a legit risk, especially in thin patients.

>>358475
Fuck, that's passing out in the middle of a sentence low. Fatigue like a lead suit. But ~*muh ballet!*~ No. Just no.

No. 358521

>>358193
Can you get screenshots? I'd love to know what she was asking about in regards to MS and when it was (before or after she was "diagnosed" (not diagnosed, it literally says "concerning of") with MS)

No. 358540

>>358505
so why do the drs entertain her? could they be held liable if something happened due to the autoexsanguiating?

No. 358542

she literally started with the "uterus removal" shit during a time someone else was getting a lot of attention for a hysterectomy even went as far as posting that pic of the meds she was given to take until the surgery which was eerily similar to what the person getting attention at that moment had to do…

No. 358551

>>358540

In general, if you call a Munchie on it, they'll just go elsewhere. This may be their way of maintenance and control until she decides to stop. I know, pretty naive as she's a complete sociopath and gets off at doing this to the docs (she's almost proud of how much precious blood and how many meds and how much attention she managed to get out of the system!), but one can hope, I guess!

No. 358554

>>358521

I think screenshots will make me very identifiable. But it was a month before.

Some but not all the things she asked (I paraphrase, to protect myself, though I'm fairly sure she asked many others):

- Did you need an MRI for dx?
- Was the doc giving you a dx and/or meds prior to the MRI (i.e. based on clinical presentation alone)?
- What were your initial symptoms?
- Did you have brisk reflexes? What exactly does that look/feel like?
- Were you prescribed meds immediately? If so, what were your options?
- Were you in a flare when you were diagnosed?
- How was your vision when you were diagnosed? Did you go completely blind, or was everything just blurry?

No. 358555

>>358551
maybe they could at least cut down on how often she gets blood. it's a shame because if blood donors knew their blood was being used to support a munchie, then they would stop donating.

No. 358559

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Since we're talking about Kelly and her antics, this is pretty damn funny. Of course Kelly would choose to do something like this instead of yanno…just sitting at a table signing people up to be blood donors.

No. 358560

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JBN is in uni studying PSYCHOLOGY and yet doesn't seem to understand how therapy works? Also cannot recognize that she has an eating disorder that just so happens to involve somatic symptoms?

No. 358562

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>>358560

The rest of JBNs post

No. 358566

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>>358252
Saging for faggotry but I know someone with this and she's less than 4 feet tall and can barely walk. She doesn't even have it severely, a lot of people with OI are both super short and use wheelchairs full time. The most famous person with it was Stella Young and is a fairly typical case with her facial features and height. It definitely has a distinct look.

No. 358570

>>358566
I know someone with OI and she's 4'11" and no wheelchair. Then there's that actor Atticus something from The Middle who has OI too and he doesn't use a wheelchair. There's four different types and differ all in severity.

No. 358587

>>358562

I'm the last to try to dissuade people from putting themselves through med school, but it would break her, the way only med school can break you.

No. 358589

>>358439

Not WK at all but if I remember correctly she did travel to Vancouver to see a haematology specialist but they couldn't offer her any sort of a diagnosis

No. 358591

>>358589
Because she doesn't have a hemotological problem. Doctors can't find what's not there

No. 358592

>>358560
Psychology is unfortunately full of people with their own slew of untreated mental health illnesses

No. 358594

>>358559
Omg what the fucking hell. Thanks for putting this image into my nightmares

No. 358606

File: 1500845469857.png (163.51 KB, 750x729, IMG_0105.PNG)

> i wish i had a way to repay them

go to fucking therapy you weapons grade prune

No. 358627

>>358606

She really is such a malingering useless blob taking up space. She's really doing this for the pitybux gainz. The whole thing reeks of self-apology while still trying to lean heavily on some deep and incurable physical problem.

Fuck off, Nicole. You're such a waste of resources.

No. 358660

>>358378
Im fairly sure if you have been sectioned you cant enter the US until 5 years has passed from the date the section ended. I dont know if Kelly was sectioned, but 2 years is a long time to spend in a psych hospital voluntarily and it looks like her SH was pretty extensive.. so it wouldnt surprise me.

No. 358668

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>>358540
Some of them are on to her. I went back and skimmed through some interesting posts and it's just sad. Unfortunately they have to be vague like this doc, because they pose the risk of being wrong in any scenario.

No. 358669

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No. 358676

>>358669
So how do you think she's triggering her allergies? Secret stash of shellfish? A bottle of kitty drool?

No. 358685

>>358676
how would we know what kelly is allergic to? I have allergies to foods and my face doesn't blow up like that unless I was putting the allergen on my face. So that's probably what she's doing.

No. 358686

>>358669
I forgot about these gems. Thank god not all her doctors are morons. I can only imagine how sick of her shit they all are

No. 358689

>>358685
It's so sad, really. To be in your 30s and spending this much time manipulating people. Especially since I stumbled across her sister's instagram, who seems to have a successful and fulfilling life envolving absolutely no munchie drama. I can't imagine throwing away your life like Kelly's doing

No. 358695

>>358689
Her sister looks like she has a huge amount of fun in her life. That might be part of why Kelly is so messed up. She's probably grown up comparing herself to her twin sister rather than bettering herself.

No. 358699

>>358695

Any idea why Kelly changed her last name, but her sister didn't? What's the story there?

No. 358702

>>358676

One, it's kinda natural for someone having as many transfusions as she's had to start experiencing some transfusion reactions. The more you've had the more severe they tend to be.

Two, I am also pretty sure that she is lying about those reactions. She may have had brief reactions and told the doctor they have lasted longer than they actually did, hence his skepticism. The facial erythema and swelling can be induced by a range of agents, including several drugs she almost definitely has access to, but I'd rather not give tips to Munchies :)

No. 358703

>>358699
Maybe she was married once?

No. 358715

File: 1500855809037.jpeg (6.08 KB, 225x225, images.jpeg)

>>358702
she's had pics on her insta with a blow up face, so it's not that the reaction never took place, she was using something to cause them.

attached pic from kelly's own instagram.

No. 358724

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May 6th, exactly 10 days before her other swollen face thing, she got stung by a wasp in the eye and ended up in the hospital:

kelly.ronahan Now that it's today, and I'm feeling a bit better I can laugh about yesterday (at least a lil?) I biked to the gym as usual, and as I was locking it something got all up in my business! ?? I slapped myself in a way that would look insane to anyone who didn't know I had a wasp on my face! So he dropped his ass right in my eyeball!? ? #badluck omg! I didn't really clue in at first. My eye shut and started tearing instantly. I kinda slowly walked into the gym entrance. I felt slow and weird. I stood against a wall for a bit and thought I just need to calm down. One of the staff was like "what are you doing there?" I was embarrassed cause I kinda like him… I said well "I can tell you what I'm not doing" "what's that?" "breathing!" then panic sets in! The rest is a bit blurry but loads of life guards came and put me on oxygen and called #911. Lol and you know how in the movies people yell "we need a #doctor!" and magically there happens to be one right there!? well someone yelled that and for no joke, out of nowhere comes a doctor! He's like "I'm a doctor!" (he was there working out) #goodluck but he helped lots. And when the #paramedics arrived he was able to describe my situation and condition to them quite well. It was scary hearing him describe me that way… Not breathing and swollen tongue, white etc. Right away medics gave me epinephrine. It was like that moment you come out of the water from holding your breath too long. Then I got shaky. They loaded me onto the #ambulance. While we drove to the hospital 5 IV attempts were made. No go. So I was given a jab of benadryl in my arm. I got put in a trauma room where my port was accessed. I was then given another stab of epi! The other anaphylaxis cocktail was put through my port. My vitals returned to normal, but I just wasn't feeling ok. They told me I could go. I asked if anyone would be even looking in my eye where I was strung as it was swelling. And I said I still feel unwell. The doctor said my reaction was over and I would not be getting more medication. ? the drug seeking shit again. (continued in comments) ⬇

kelly.ronahan Although my nurses were kind, they are under the orders of the Dr… They got me a cab voucher and sent me on my way… I was very worried by the way I felt physically. I could not believe that no doctor would examine my painful eye! The whole reason I was there! I got home and thing proceeded to get worse. I got a rash on my chest and my eye swelled tight and shut and my breathing was laboured again. By this point I was like "screw it" I'm not going to the hospital ever again…

kelly.ronahan I talked to one of my room mates and my pastor. They both came to my room and said no we are going back. I promised them that I was just going to be laughed at or disregarded. But they both said that when you don't go alone you get treated way better. How right they were. All of my symptoms were addressed, my eye examined and patience to listen to me! I couldn't believe it. It was like a whole new hispital. We were there till 2:00 am. I was given several prescriptions to help with the recovery from this. No one laughed. They all said I was good to come back. My nurse even told my pastor she didn't want me to feel pushed out like earlier… I'm so thankful they came with me!

kelly.ronahan I will be trying to avoid that place as much as I can. I'm not sure what the heck is going on with these new allergies. But if I have to go, I will not be going alone. I'm so grateful to have people willing to support me! THANK you to them, and to all of you!? My eye opens a bit this morning… They have referred me to an allergist, and that is who can prescribe an epi pen if I need one. So in the end, no matter how hard it seems, I'm always looked after. It's hard af, but no one's going to let me just die. Sometimes I fear that. But it's irrational! Love you all!

kelly.ronahan #beesting #wasp #anaphylaxis #spoonie #peoplehopetribe #hospital #friends #ouch #epinephrine

No. 358725

>>358715

As said, it's easy to induce a localized reaction. Btw, to me that looks like someone puffing up their cheeks and half closing an eye after rubbing one's face till erythematous. The lips are thin and al out definteily pressed against each other rather than swollen, and eye swelling is unilateral, which it normally would not be in case of a transfusion reaction. This looks pretty odd for a trasnfusion reaction - it's as if someone tried to simulate a transfusion reaction not knowing that it's different from a garden variety allergic reaction…

No. 358726

>>358724
Gotta love a munchie making a fairly common allergy sooper skeewy and speschel kek

No. 358727

>>358725
No, I agree. Like I said, if I rub whatever I'm allergic to, I'll get a face like that vs if I just swallow it. if I swallow something I'm allergic to, then I get anaphylaxis and a swollen mouth, my face would not blow up.

No. 358729

>>358724
It's also worth mentioning that on May 4th her lips swelled up for no known reason and she went to the ER for that as well.

No. 358732

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#thingsthatdidnthappen
#thissoundsmadeup
#noselfie

Uhh hahaha uhhh… I think I made some children phobic of the dentist. #imthatperson ? I love my dentist! He is awesomeness! He makes the whole dentist appointment very bearable.? I've seen him for several years, so this morning I thought everything would be usual! Nope… Nope! #itsme He gave me a few freezing injections as he always does, but this time I go all anaphylaxis on him!? He called 911. The whole thing was rather embarrassing, but my main concern was that I didn't want any first timers to see someone leave on a stretcher! That would even freak me out! ???? My Dr in emerg was very stinking super understanding and cool. He understood that I wanted to get out asap and with as few medications as possible. I got 2 shots of benadryl in the arms! ???? #notfun I was observed for a while and now I'm home. I'm 100% sure the poor dentist was more freaked than I! I'm used to the rashes and tight throat etc… But I'm thankful he followed protocol! K wait a minute here! I'm worried about scaring the children??! Uhh don't really know how I feel about going back to the dentist now…? #butthechildren I guess I'll have to jump right back up on the horse and move on! ? ⬅But not that horse… He's not going forward!? If I could describe the day with one word …. Embarrassing !!! Lol leaving the dentist by ambulance! ? ⬅ Which also is not moving forward! …

No. 358738

>>358732

Dental fag here - what a piece of lying shit. I would loooove to know what local anaesthetic she has allegedly reacted too. Not going to go in-depth with what/how that happens, don't need to help this inbred cow with her munchie adventures any further but I'll just reiterate how fucking rare and unlikely that was.

I love how everywhere she goes she just has to have a fucking medical emergency. Doesn't she have any insight as to how fucking ridiculous that is to everyone? Her hospital records would be flagged with a frequent flier/malingering tag. Trust me Kelly, hospitals know when they have a "professional patient" on their hands who overuses the system.

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>>358727
That and she also talks about how she is given meds that should stop any supposed reactions from happening. I'm not a medfag but I know a lot of people with MCAS/MCAD and general allergies will be given a lot of benadryl to stop reactions at the hospital. So how is it even possible that is happening?

No. 358744

I'm not posting links because it's easy to find and because I don't want to post names/photos of family members, but if you go back in Kelly's Instagram timeline, she talks about a horrible accident that has blinded her sister in a foreign country. She later says that she just wants her sister to survive. I checked out her sister's account and what happened was incredibly scary, but there was no accident. She was snowblind, which is basically a sunburn on your eyeballs. It can blind you permanently, but you won't die from it. Coincidentally, there happened to be a bus accident in the same country as Kelly's sister was blinded in, and Kelly allowed her followers to believe that her sister had been injured in that accident.

No. 358745

>>358738
It's fucking ridiculous. Anyone with a little common sense knows that you don't run off to the er every time something happens, no matter how small. What goddamn waste of medical resources and people's time and energy

No. 358746

>>358744
I saw that too, her sister was fine and gasp! went on living her life and not talking about it all the fucking time

No. 358747

>>358743
Kelly's hemotologist seems to be the only one around there with any sense at all

No. 358759

Been following Kelly for a while now and have always had my suspicions, glad I am not alone. I called her out recently because I just couldn't take the BS anymore. She not only blocked me on IG but also FB. Hopefully her doctors cut her off soon, hate seeing resources wasted on someone who won't work or contribute to society in any beneficial way.

No. 358764

>>358724
>>358743

This was the shit I was talking about! That "wasn't adding up" for me. You're going to sit on instragram and tell everyone that your doctor looked you in the eyes (or tried to I guess) and dismissed a valid transfusion reaction? I don't think so. Your doctor isn't a bad doctor just because he's not fooled by what has clearly been determined as bullshit. He wasn't acting like there was a problem because he could tell there wasn't one. He knew she'd be okay and didn't want to waste time or resources on something that wasn't legitimately, medically concerning.

No. 358773

>>358724
>Don't worry Kelly. We've found the wasp. Your friend brought it to the hospital, and we have it on ice right now. Everything is going to be okay. The wasp has been found.

No. 358787

>>357354
What about Natasha coates and brin Dunkin?

No. 358795

>>358764
Any time I see the words "mystery", "severe", or "complex" in a spoonie post, I'm immediately suspicious

No. 358815

>>358764

That might be because Dr McHematologist knows what a serious transfusion reaction looks like. Hint: it doesn't look like you got stung by an insect. Serious transfusion reactions are pretty unmistakable and can send the most hardened hematoasshole yelling for the crash cart. They're also enormously rare.

Poor stupid idiot Kelly has misunderstood what a transfusion reaction is and thought it's like an allergy, so she faked its symptoms. It's nothing like that. TAGvHD is pretty unmistakeable and tends to land you in the ICU, AHTR is characterized by hemolysis, AFNHTR is characterized by high fever and not one eyelid swollen shut.

The bullshit, the bullshit, it HURTS.

It's like amateur hour at the Munchie School for Timewasting Tards.

No. 358818

>>358764

I can imagine being that doctor.

"Doctor, doctor, I'm soooper transfusion reacting!"

"Err… you are?" looks at Kelly's swollen face, which is not a symptom of a transfusion reaction, and the conspicuous absence of a high fever, heart issues, kidney failure, hemolysis

"WHY U IGNORE ME????????"

No. 358821

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>>358818
>Can't you see I'm dying?

No. 358822

>>358815

Yes, yes, yes exactly! While I'm no doctor, I do have a thorough knowledge of immunology and immunohematology, because it's my job! I don't need to lay out "actual factual reasons" for my suspicions. It didn't make sense based off of what I know about antigen-antibody interactions and transfusion reactions, especially acute reactions as she claimed her symptoms came within minutes of receiving blood. The mystery was no longer her "rare condition."

No. 358828

>>358822
It will be interesting to see how long they let her keep that port

No. 358829

>>358822
Five minutes on google is enough to see that her story doesn't check out, let alone the actual science. Apparently Kelly is a terrible researcher, and really should've picked a disease that was easier to fake

No. 358838

>>358729

The ER for swollen lips? Jeez!
Last week I found out I had become allergic to penicillin. My eyelids swelled up and my lips looked like I'd had cheap injections. I didn't go hassle staff at the EMERGENCY room, I took an antihistamine and called the out of hours doc to see what to do next (keep taking OTC antihistamines and go to the ER if it gets worse not better).
I'm guessing she's gonna angle for a MCAS diagnosis then….

No. 358839

>>358828

I find it bizarre that someone would be given a port for no other reason than to transfuse them. Ports aren't fantastic for that, as they tend to clog up if not flushed correctly. The rule at the hospital I work at is that ports are given for one of four reasons: TPN, chemo, CF or some other condition requiring long term intravenous therapy (recently genuine cases of POTS are put in this lot here - I don't know enough about POTS to know whether that's a good idea or not…) and people who require very frequent bloods (more than twice a week for at least the next six months). Ports are a lot harder and more expensive to unclog and change compared to a simple Hickman/Groshong line, and as far as I can see, she went straight to a port which in and of itself is weird. Having her on a Hickman should have given her medics the chance to see that she's autoexsanguinating.

No. 358840

>>358829

Well, mystery undiagnosable illnesses are the easiest to fake…

No. 358841

Can someone help put a timeline for Kelly together? In particular, when she was in the mental institution? She was born in 1982. On photos from 2009, she doesn't have her self harm scars yet, so I would presume her hospitalization was between then and when her symptoms started, which would be about 4 years ago as she claims, so 2013ish? She states that she stopped self harming around the time her symptoms started, so ~2013, making her stay in the institution plausibly around 2011-13, but at the earliest 2009-11. In other words, when her symptoms started, she has recently stopped self harming and she was less than 2 years out of a 2 year stint in a mental hospital… and they gave her a port, let her go home and exsanguinate herself to her heart's content and assumed that whatever is going on with her is best fixed by wasting Canada's limited blood supply on her rather than sending her back to the mental institution where she could get actual help for her issues?

It boggles the mind.

No. 358843

Also… does anyone find it odd that Kelly got allegedly dx'd w/MS (admittedly the radiology report is fairly inconclusive and, to quote that ever beloved line of radiologists, needs to be clinically correlated!), then the whole fibroids/hysterectomy wave started and swept the whole MS thing off the scene. Not only is she not talking about it, she's also apparently not on any medication for it. It is absolutely crucial for early RRMS to start disease modifying drugs ASAP to prevent formation of more plaques… so is her neurologist asleep at the wheel, or is this another of those Kelly lies we have come to know and love?

No. 358847

>>358843

I suspect MS was her plan for when attention started dying down, then suspicions forced her to find a sudden reason for her blood loss so we're onto fibroids and hysterectomies. I wouldn't be surprised if she posts some time later about how she's been on meds for MS for the last whatever time period and just hasn't mentioned it before (riiiiiiiight).

No. 358853

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anyone see fixing.felicity's recent "health update"? guess she couldn't convince her doctor that she has sooper speshul EDS so they stuck her with the hypermobility spectrum disorder (something literally every dancer could fall into if a doctor diagnosed hypermobility with no idea about their dancing). but what strikes me as odd is that she claims to have muscle stiffness and tightness that causes subluxations/dislocations. no just no. if your muscles are tight, they will be helping hold your joints in place, or at minimum you're gonna have a hard time gauging hypermobility (and I know flexibility is muscle related, not hypermobility, but tense muscles still limit ROM in joints). this is why EDSers are supposed to do muscle building therapy – to help their faulty ligaments/tendons do their job. she also says she gets hairline fractures from generalized joint hypermobility, which DOES NOT AFFECT BONE STRENGTH unless you have osteopenia along with it (and that doesn't typically happen in early life with EDS). ffs. what is everyone's obsession with EDS and HSD?! it's no cancer or CF, but it's a pretty shit thing to actually live with and I don't understand why people want it?!

No. 358855

>>35553>>358839

How would the Hickman allow for them to see the autoexsangination? Wouldn't an external central line be more risky for her to have? I've had both a port and a Hickman and the port was much easier to take care of.

No. 358857

I was a patient of Kelly's hematologist, Dr Mike Delorme. It is absolutely disgraceful how she is smearing the reputation of an excellent physician and a fantastic hematologist just because she did not get her way. Dr. Delorne is a great doctor and one of Canada's best hematologists, and if her mysterious anemia weren't self-induced, he would certainly have found the cause by now. Kelly needs a hobby, one that doesn't involve sitting in doctors' offices, paid for by the state, and trying to deceive them for some morbid gain.

No. 358858

>>358853

Simple: a pretty significant number of people are hypermobile. EDS/HSD is dysfunctional hypermobility, that is, objective hypermobility plus subjective/objective dysfunction (pain, dislocations etc). It is easier to get a hEDS diagnosis than another disease where you would need to be able to show some objective pathology you're unlikely to have. The effect of all this glorious awareness raising is that geneticists are overloaded and most people who claim non-v EDS don't even get sent to see one (certainly none of the hypermobiles do, as there's no conclusive genetic test for hEDS). And there's drugs, because of course it causes 'excruciating' pain (not denying EDS can cause severe pain but anyone who uses the e-word for their pain is making shit up). And there's a very supportive spoonie community of other EDS fakers, who will help you fake EDS effectively and lie to your doctors better. Ain't that fantastic?

No. 358859

>>358855

Sorry if I wasn't clear. The point is that they could do a trial of withdrawing the Hickman line, i.e. leaving her without a line for two weeks and seeing how her counts develop.

No. 358860

>>358853

Because EDS affects the joints, allowing for infinite attention getting bandages, braces, splints and the never ending possibility of new injuries every day!
What most munchies don't get, is that you're not supposed to use the supports/splints 24/7 as this will end up weakening already loose joints, so ironically they can end up getting actual problems from them. Ditto crutches and canes.

No. 358861

>>358858

EDS also requires non-joint involvement to be diagnosed. Prolapses etc.

No. 358862

>>358857
I wish there was a way I could highlight this post. Thanks for saying it. Is this your first post? Have you suspected Kelly for long?

No. 358863

>>358855
Ports take some skill and specialized needles to access. Hickmans are much easier to draw from. I am not going to say how, but it would be easier to tell if the line had been tampered with. You can still tell with a port but it's not as easy.

No. 358864

>>358859
And yes, this.

No. 358867

>>355978

i was just about to post this screenshot. i found the entire post ridiculous, especially as she's still dancing. how!? how is she still dancing, especially if she's requiring ketamine infusions for CRPS, let alone if she has CRPS? and of course she's claiming hypermoblity now. balletfag here with hEDS, i was literally turned down by my first rheum, telling me i had nothing wrong with me and i was naturally flexible, but a different rheum and a geneticist proved otherwise. anyway, the amount of braces i see on this girl is absolutely ridiculous, as are her piling number of 'diagnoses'

sage for bloging

No. 358868

>>358861

Not necessarily. Dx crits:

Generalized joint hypermobility (GJH); and
Two or more of the following features must be present (A & B, A & C, B & C, or A & B & C):
Feature A—systemic manifestations of a more generalized connective tissue disorder (a total of five out of twelve must be present)

Feature B—positive family history, with one or more first degree relatives independently meeting the current diagnostic criteria for hEDS

Feature C—musculoskeletal complications (must have at least one of three); and

All these prerequisites must be met: absence of unusual skin fragility, exclusion of other heritable and acquired connective tissue disorders including autoimmune rheumatologic conditions, and exclusion of alternative diagnoses that may also include joint hypermobility by means of hypotonia and/or connective tissue laxity.


So you can establish a hEDS dx w/+ family history + solely musculoskeletal symptoms.

No. 358869

Munchie Cup 2017: who has more braces?

chronically_val -VS- fixing_felicity

No. 358873

>>356159
Eh, it depends on tolerance really- my tolerance is massive compared to most people and I have pretty incapacitating MI too so most of my meds are sedating in nature.
Personally I don't find them incapacitating due to both tolerence and length of time using them, but my daily med intake would more than likely kill someone without dependence etc.

sage for blogpost

No. 358877

>>356360
Um, seroquel is great for sleeping and for dealing with certain MI. 25mg will knock most people out initially.
I'm surprised she hasn't tried that tbqh.

/sage for medication speculation

No. 358878

>>358873

Even with relatively high tolerance there's an upper margin as to what dosage will almost guaranteed knock someone out cold. Especially someone her size. Never mind the long term side effects of being on dopaminergics as a kid. :/

No. 358880

>>356364

Same here- I have some shit resulting from a bunch physical issues as well as mental health associated physical consequences from very old self inflicted behaviours (ED, addiction etc).

I used to tag some of those things with relevant tags but am so self conscious of those fuckwits that I rarely post at all now.

/sage as well

No. 358884

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> virtually every photo of her Instagram is her showing off her tubes (yes, the lower one is an SPC)
> how dare you assume you have something I don't? I'm the picture of health, innit.
> but have sympathy! Look at me!
> but don't you dare call me an inspiration!

These munchy activists just drive me nuts. How distorted do you have to be to object to someone actually acknowledge that yes, getting through chronic health issues is tough and takes strength… then get upset when someone does NOT acknowledge that?!

Btw, Imogen is a massive Munchiecow. For a while, she pretended to have a brain injury and be barely functional, almost Amanda Baggs levels, was morbidly obese and needed a full time aide to wash her and stuff. Then suddenly she decided to lose a shitload of weight and magically, she is now pretty functional. Her whole story is like Kelly's: sounds believable until it doesn't.

No. 358885

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Chronically a fucking brat.

No. 358886

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Full complement of fashionable disorders. I've got a row on Munchie bingo!

No. 358887

>>358841
I was hospitalized 6 years ago during a serious manic episode. I was released after 3 days only. Point is, if I was released after only 3 days for something so serious, you'd have to be majorly fucked to be hospitalized for 2 YEARS.

In addition, i just got off the phone with my mom, who is a the charge nurse at a very busy mental health hospital. I referred her to this thread (she has a wicked sense of humor and has been a nurse for 35 years) and she agrees; Kelly is a lying sack of shit, and has grave mental health problems if she was institutionalized for that long of a duration.

No. 358888

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I wonder how people without a chest harness but with severe anxiety solve that problem… oh, right! They don't have that problem, because that's not how anxiety works!

Of course, one might advise her to lose some weight, which will make keeping her posture much easier, but that'll only get you a shitstorm from entitled 'cripplepunks' about body shaming and other stuff.

No. 358890

>>358887

The fact that it was 2 years means it was almost definitely involuntary commitment, whether she hurt herself or someone else.

No. 358893

>>358888
can someone explain to me the point of image descriptions? is it for people who can't load pictures? on a place that is nothing but pictures??

No. 358894

>>358887
From what I've seen, people who are sectioned for 1+ years either self harm to the point of being at risk of killing themselves (either on purpose or by accident), or are sentenced to treatment instead of prison.

No. 358900

>>358893

It's for blind people who use screen readers. In reality, it's a fashionable Spoonie/SJW virtue signal. Look at me, I'm so compassionate I even look out for the blind, even if I don't know anyone because who knows who might check out my images because look at me I'm popular and shit!

(It's mostly a dumb thing because a number of screen readers will ignore the blocks where they are normally placed, and try to read the image's alt text. Most of these kids haven't seen a blind person or a screen reader in their life, so they'd just follow the current popular trend).

No. 358901

>>358894

I wonder if there is some way to figure out what went down there…

No. 358906

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>>358888
Her hair is triggering me.

>>358559
This insane Kelly getup reminds me of Charlie's Green Man on Sunny.

No. 358908

>>358907
Cool story sis.

No1curr about your physician enabled drug habit. IMO you've managed to become a legal junkie (that is if you aren't dying of cancer like your poor mother as well). Go make buddy-buddy with Luna and quit with the fucking blogposts yeah?

Sage for growing frustration with the blog posts.

No. 358909

>>358908
THANK YOU for saying this. The blogging going on in this thread has become OTT. Just stop with the near-equivalent of spoonie blogging in here or go make a fucking IG of your own, fam. Seriously. Unless you are making a relevant point, in which an effort should be made to be concise, just stop.

No. 358913

>>358366

NEGL that is fantastic work

sage for not being relevant to topic

No. 358914

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=612475762210367&id=48316177847510

This links to a video from February. Kelly went to see her psychiatrist and conveniently fainted as soon as she got there. Went to the hospital, was feeling "pretty bad," and still made a video to share with her Facebook ministry group.

No. 358926

>>358908

Where does this comment point to? I want to find context, but am unable. But agreed that there's too much blogposting going on in here.

No. 358935

>>358926
The comment they were replying to has been deleted/removed, it was someone talking about the amount of opiates/benzo's they are prescribed in relation to peoples reactions to MBV's meds, the commentor was saying that many people take more meds than MBV due to tolerance etc. and listed all the drugs they take regularly including methadone and shit.

>>356151
>>356159

sage for OT

No. 358941

>>358914
Those of us who are not FB friends with Kelly are unable to see this video anon.

No. 358950

>>358926
I was just trying to prove a point re medication doses by (admittedly tiresomely) listing my shopping list of meds
But they ^ were right about OT the selfblogging so I deleted it

sage for OT

No. 358952

>>358950
OT and selfblogging

No. 358956

Can someone link me to kelly psych posts please?

No. 358962

>>358841
I'm interested in a timeline as well.
We know she spent ~2 years in mental health.
End of 2013 her (adoptive) mom disappeared. She doesn't mention much about it other than she has no idea where she is or what happened.
January 2014 she has her first transfusion.
Also, I'm confused by an image she posted of herself in a cap and gown. You can't see the year on the tassel when it is on her, but next to the photo of her is a separate photo of the tassel, with the year saying 2011. Was this high school? College? A tag says grade 12. I'm still bewildered about her age as she keeps saying 24, but there was evidence of it being 34?

Screenshots following

No. 358963

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>>358962
So she graduated high school in 2011? Or is that a picture of a different tassel that she is using to fake her age?

No. 358964

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>>358962
Here is one of the posts where she talks about her mom vanishing.

No. 358969

>>358964
Tin-foil hat theory: Kelly accidentally killed her mum, went to the psych ward, and tried to mislead everyone about her age in an attempt to hide her identity.
Sage because stupid

No. 358972

>>358964

This kind of explains a lot. However her mother disappeared, it obviously had a huge impact on her. Also it was just mentioned that she was her adoptive mother?

Either way, she has some DEEEEP psychological issues surrounding her mother which can cause so many different characteristics to pop up. Sometimes without the person even noticing. What if Kelly has been making herself sick to get this caring, maternal like treatment from the hospital (she seems to have a serious attachment to the nurses on the transfusion ward) to replace what she missed out on from her real mom.

It's possible she doesn't even realise or allow herself to realise that she's doing it. She could be having dissociative episodes or fugue states. Maybe she legitimately doesn't know she's been doing this to herself.

I really wouldn't be surprised. This seems like the best explanation. At this point it's looking like textbook munchie. Childhood trauma, absent parental figures and abandonment, severe self harm, extensive psychiatric hold, freaking out whenever her doctors suspect suspicious behaviour and symptoms. Symptoms not adding up, clinging to diagnoses, making a big show of everything, obsession with her cat, possible past eating disorder, obsessive behaviour around exercise, constant lying, covering things up, acting like a child. All signs pointing to Munch city.

No. 358974

Kelly also seems to be stuck in this child like state. Not growing up etc. Not getting a job, living with room mates, doesn't seem like she drives, never leaves her home town, her bedroom even looks like a kids bedroom. Talks like a child, acts out like a child, seems to have no ability to plan for the future or recognise any future consequences to her actions.

It's like she clings to this sick life where she is the victim so that she doesn't have to grow up and actually care for herself like someone her age should. She's heavily dependant on the care she receives from others. Whenever something goes wrong, she seems to not be able to handle it on her own. Apart from her hobbies she doesn't seem to have any interest in real life skills or careers. She focuses so much on her health it's like her illness is her career, her identity, without it all she talks about her cat.

She's thirty fucking four. In 6 years she will be 40. This is just so sad to be honest.

No. 358975

>>358963

Kelly attended Connaught Elementary School in Regina, SK from 1986 to 1993. In the seven years that followed she attended Campbell High (Regina, SK), Riffel High (Regina, SK) and Sir Alexander Mackenzie High (Inuvik, NT). It is puzzling why she attended two different schools in the same town (usually a sign of having left a school, possibly having had to leave - Regina is small enough that moving around town would not necessarily mean changing schools, but correct me - I'm not from thereabouts,). If she graduated in 2011, that would have been college (with some delay, presumably due to her mental health). Alternatively, her mental health broke down around 2000 or before, meaning she had to leave school prematurely and sat Grade 12 aged 28?

There's a huge lump unaccounted for in her life, much more than the two years in mental health facilities. I'm more and more thinking there was either a longer psychiatric detention or a non-psychiatric detention in her life, or she joined a cult she'd rather not talk about. At any rate something happened to her during that decade and this is now the fallout.

No. 358976

Where is the info on her psych and past? It is not her on IG. Someone on FB care to scroll back to the beginning and screenshot for us?

No. 358979

>>358974

Her doc also remarked in the blurred out 'cat collection' note that she's friendly in a childlike way,

To me its glaringly obvious that she is trying to recreate the childhood she never had. But because she doesn't have any real family other than her sister and she is too smart to get into that 'baby daddies and littles' crap, she is courting situations that will be like childhood: with people taking care of her while she dances and goofs around. She thinks that when she's in hospital, they will take care of her and fill the big empty hole in her life, the hole of a childhood that never was,

Kelly, I've been there. And trust me, nothing is going to fill that hole except real human relationships. Drugs won't, Munchieing won't, one night stands won't. And if you want those relationships, you will have to stop lying, stop Munchieing and find real friends - not fawning Instagram followers. And talk to your doctors. Admit to them what you have done - they won't be mad and they will try to help you.

Please, please get help before it's too late.

No. 358985

>>358979
This is probably the most accurate scenario. She uses the hospital as an escape from being an adult because she can't function as an adult, since she doesn't know how.

she can change but she needs intense therapy, maybe even inpatient just to get away from everyone and everything and focus on herself.

No. 359001

>>358941

Anon from the FB link. I'm not friends with Kelly, either. It was posted to a public Facebook page called The Strong Womens Group - Revived.

No. 359007

>>358985

It's honestly bizarre. It's textbook institutionalization, especially since Kelly spent 2 friggin years in a psych ward. My guess is that she came to rely on and then crave the extensive support and structure that comes with that kind of regimented life in a hospital.

So she had to fabricate a reason to keep making extensive and endless trips to anyplace medical. A "mystery blood disease" gave her at least 4 years of that. Added onto her two years in psych, she's spent 6 six years more or less entirely as a patient. Before that she was marginally a dance student, but I doubt she finished the program.

No. 359013

This probably isn't new but I stumbled across Kelly's youtube and honestly I'm pretty disturbed.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRUCEjscABSa2b95aLqoWcA/videos

No. 359015

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>>359013

In what universe do you need an actual transfusion after a nose bleed? Like, where even would the blood be coming from? If your sinuses were hemorrhaging, but they would have to be infected or damaged. If the blood came from the throat, lungs, or regurgitated from the stomach, it wouldn't just be a nose bleed, and it would be more of a coughing/choking/drowning moment.

Short of hemophilia, I can't imagine any condition that would make a nosebleed a tranfusion-needed event. Ffs Kelly, you are so full of shit.

No. 359016

>>359015
wtf does she have to do ballet in the g-damn hospital? kelly's so extra.

No. 359017

>>358724

i love how she says that the "doctor" at the gym used fancy technical terms like "not breathing" and "white" when describing her condition to the paramedics.

No. 359021

>>359018
iDK but some dude has a whole album dedicated to her on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/LCampbellPhoto/photos/?tab=album&album_id=532142060278920

No. 359026

>>359015
Watching her story on the Canadian Blood Services-youtube, her hb was 5.5 when this first happened and she claims the doctor called an ambulance to pick her up when they got the blood results. Doouuubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqy4KX1T7X0

No. 359027

>>358964
Do we know her mother's first name?
I searched petrovich on various obituary sites but I go no results so I'm assuming she's not dead. If we can find out her mother's name we might be able to do some deeper digging on Kelly.

No. 359028

So she can do this for an hour.. and enjoys it… but she's SO SICK YOU GUYS

No. 359029

>>359026
this video is so cringey, omg.

No. 359030

>>359028
I mean is there any proof she actually works out for like 1 hr+ at a time?
I kinda feel like she just exaggerates how much she dances/exercises in order to emphasise how motivated and special she is because she's so anaemic but also somehow still full of energy

No. 359032

>>359030
Doesn't she see how that just looks suspicious? You're not feeling up for any type of physical activity when your hb is in the toilet like that.

No. 359033

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>>359027
I found this on her Instagram. It's the only family photo I've ever seen her post. I'm not sure if these are her birth parents or adoptive parents

No. 359034

>>359032
Surely she must know that's not how people behave when they are very anaemic but I think she has convinced herself that it's believable to outsiders because she's so desperate to be recognised as "special" and "unique", she probably believes her own lies to an extent.

No. 359038

lots of info in this video. From 2011-201 Looks like it's documenting her 3 year stay in some kind of religious half way house (Karis support society in the Southerland House) "the family I was waiting for"

Around this time she graduated grade 12, turned 27, went to college. Worked out obsessively. Did lots of coloring in. Doesn't seem to have any self harm scars yet. Decorated her bedroom like a pink-obsessed 7 year old. Went to America (and sometime between then and now, literally can not go back "even if she wanted to"). Took tons of photos of herself jumping around. Had a schedule at the halfway house, thursdays or fridays were scheduled "Boarderline". Got her cat, Chompy. Some time after that, around 2013 I think, she now has the scars. And she started the transfusions.

At the end of the video it reads:

I'm trying to find where my place is
I'm looking for my own oasis
So close I can taste this
The fear that love alone erases
So I'm back to the basics
I figure it's time I face this
Time to take my own advice
Love alone is worth the fight
Love alone is worth the fight
And I never thought it'd come to this
But it seems like I'm finally
Feeling numb to this
The funny thing about a name is
You forget what the reason you
were playing the game is
and it's all an illusion
a 21st century illusion
So I'm headed down the open
road unknown
LOVE ALONE IS WORTH THE FIGHT

No. 359039

>>359038
wait. graduated 12th grade at 27 when most kids graduate 12th grade at 17? why is there a ten year gap between her and the rest of the kids? I thought you couldn't even attend school past the age of 21 unless you were special needs.

No. 359043

>>359039
I don't know about the Canadian system, but could really someone go back to school at that age? With the high school kids? Wouldn't you pass something like a GED thing if you really wanted the degree in order to go to college?
The deeper we go, the fishier this thing gets.

Either she is REALLY mentally ill (something major and a halfway house and extensive psychiatric care would align with that) or she is way younger.

No. 359045

For the lolz… here she is awkwardly wandering around the blood donation clinic giving "goodie bags" to all the doners and saying "there's a story in there about why I need blood" "and some candy" "thank you for saving my life"

The woman escorting her around says at one point that Kelly just wanted to come in to meet everyone and say thank you.

This, along with her whole IG account (with all the hash tags, sfs, collecting followers) and the news segments and online news articles, it's blatantly obvious that she is using this for attention and enjoying feeling "special" and "sick", telling anyone and everyone she can, using dramatic phrasing etc.

No. 359047

>>359033
Definitely looks like her birth parents. I can see the resemblance, especially with her mother. Interesting that they were immigrants from former Yugoslavia. Not being able to afford dental care alludes to some hardship. Maybe her parents also had some kind of mental health issues and that's why they seemingly abandoned them later on.

She says "my dad had bad teeth in the 90s" but she looks about 3 years old here. Wasn't she born in like 1983 or 1984? Was this IG post from back when she was claiming to be much younger than she was?

I'm guessing she lied about her age to try and make it less weird that she had a lot of childish characteristics, no degree or job or permanent homing situation.

No. 359055

>>359043
In my country, there are a few schools for those with mental health issues or drug addictions that accept people age 15-26, and 18-40. Maybe that's the case in Canada too?

No. 359061

>>358975
Perhaps one was a junior high (grade 8-10) and the other was a senior high (grade 11-12).

No. 359065


No. 359068

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>>358815
And yet she describes it as an anaphylactic reaction when that's not what anaphylaxis is (see attached image).

>>358841
From her story, I'd bet she's institutionalized and has grown dependent on the sympathy or care she received while in hospital for her mental illnesses.

>>358857
I think this is what bothers me most about her reactions to us talking on here. She will cry that we're prying into her life and overstepping boundaries but has absolutely no problem publishing physicians names, and writing horrible things about them. Last time I checked, that is considered defamation of character. That, and if one of Kelly's crazy loyal followers decided to pay a physician a visit, she could be putting that physician's life in danger.

>>358914
Why does she need to document EVERYTHING?
> Oh look guise, here I am taking a crap.

>>358985
I think this could be good for her even without the whole munchie drama. Mostly the therapy, not the inpatient. She needs a break from social media to stop being so obsessed with being liked.

>>359013
Woah… that is some weird shit

>>359015
If she's trying to suggest she had a severe posterior nosebleed, that would be more concerning of disorders of the CNS, or a leukemic syndrome, and not a mysterious blood disorder. But yet again, she doesn't do her research.

>>359030
It's like all of these people and the fake activism agenda. They want to fabricate how strong they are while simultaneously being dependent on being cared for.

>>359039
>>359043
Canadianfag here. Age 21 is the cut-off for taking classes in school. She could've taken a few classes through an GED program though.

Sage for long/semi-blogposting/medfagging

No. 359069

Wow.. Kelly's mom making a joke about different mental illnesses. Which I think Kelly probably suffers from (possibly backed up by "borderline" being on her weekly schedule at the half way house

"Welcome to the psychiatric hotline:
- if you are obsessive compulsive press 1 repeatedly.
- if you live with schizophrenia, listen closely and the little voice will tell you which number to press.
- if you have borderline personality disorder, hang up! You have already pushed everybody's button."

No. 359071

G Ronahan (mother) allegedly 'disappeared', but there seems to be no evidence of that. No obituary, but also no missing persons notices. She disappeared in 2013/2014, so by that time there would be some online notices, no? She stopped using her Facebook profile at a time roughly consistent with it, but nobody seems to be posting to her about her disappearance - no 'hope you're ok's and no 'please come home's.

Something doesn't make sense with this story, and with every passing minute, I feel more and more drawn into wanting to decipher it and make sense of what's going on,

No. 359075

>>359038

Video is private. Do you have a dl?

No. 359078

>>359038
And yet she still swears like a sailor and takes the Lord's name in vain. Shame on you, Kelly. Shame.

No. 359079

>>359068

A transfusion reaction is not an anaphylactic reaction. It's almost always IgE/IgM mediated.

No. 359080

>>359043
You can go back and finish your high school education at any age, but you'll finish it at a community college, not at an actual high school.

No. 359082

>>359078

I wonder what her church would think, reportedly the church she attends is one if the more conservative ones.

No. 359083

>>359071
I need to find it again but it will take a bit to scroll through it all again. She said it was her "adoptive" mother that vanished right before she got sick. Perhaps she found an "adoptive mother" at the halfway house another anon mentioned? That would explain why she changed her last name but her sister did not. It's like she went and imprinted on someone while in her very late 20s/early 30s and was "adopted" by the person.

No. 359084

>>359075

Oh wow it seems she's removed it since I found it 0_0 suspicious. I don't have a dl sorry, it was all just random photos edited together with some captions. I wrote down the most standout points.

No. 359085

>>359083

Nope, Ronahan is her mother's (G**a) last name. Only her dad was from Croatia.

No. 359086

Her dad is FB friends with one of Kelly's roomies so he must have SOME kind of connection with her still.

No. 359088

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>>359047
She is definitely in her 30s and has been lying about being younger. Which makes me wonder if the picture of the graduation tassel saying 2011 is fake to make people think she's younger. She doesn't show that year tassel ON her, simply next to her picture.
This screenshot is from her twin. You can see where she tagged which birthday the photo is from. #33

No. 359089

>>359038
Was she an alcoholic or a drug addict?

No. 359091

Kelly and her sister weren't adopted. G** is not missing. Kelly's talking about some older lady she met at the halfway house that she "adopted" as her "new mom".

No. 359097

Her mom's last FB posts were from early 2015. That last poem of hers that was published was in 2014.

The bio with her poem says:

"Ronahan lives and works in Penticton, BC, near her adult children, and two magnificent lakes. Now well into her third chapter, she is working on going gentle into that dark night, and dragging a bunch of reluctant slow pokes along with her. She will be taking advantage of senior discounts and looks forward to subjecting the inmates at the old folks’ home to her particular brand of humour."

No. 359102

>>359099

Don't feed the trolls. just report and ignore.

No. 359105

Has anyone noticed that when Kelly posted pictures of her recitals her fellow dancers looked like they were 13-17 and she looked so much older. Definitely lying about her age. She reminds me of that law and order episode where the girl lied about her age for years and just stayed in foster care and high school.

No. 359107

>>359104

Sup Kelly!

No. 359109

It's morning in Kelowna right now, Kelly MUST have seen that comment about the youtube video with lots of new information (especially about the half way house), she removed the video, and now there's an angry troll in the thread.

??? I wouldn't put it past her with her childish outbursts to do that.

No. 359122

>>359107
It's not Kelly. It's her friend J.G.

No. 359125

>>359122
these are some old lady memes

No. 359136

All I can imagine is Kelly frothing at the mouth, collecting stale memes to post them as soon as she woke up and saw we've been digging up through her old public content.
Good milk.

No. 359140

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>>359071
She mentions that the missing mom is her "adopted" mom in this comment.
So, who is this woman that "adopted" her while she was in her late twenties/ early thirties? I haven't found any evidence of a name for this woman

No. 359143

>>359140
I wonder how this makes her actual mother feel. Probably pretty shitty.

No. 359144

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No. 359149

>>359140
maybe, just maybe kelly's lying about the mom "missing" and being adopted.

No. 359150

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>>359136
And she has definitely seen the newest posts. While trying to find the "adopted mom" caption I realized she left this comment two hours ago on the picture of her in her cap and gown.
I wonder if she understands that the issue isn't graduating high school "late", it's continuously lying about her age by ten years. Right down to the caption on the family photo that says the "90s". As another anon pointed out, she looks maybe three in that photo and it would be well within the 80s.
Saged for not adding anything new

No. 359158

>>359150
She's absolutely obsessed with this thread. Look, Kelly, I realize that you don't have much to do when you're not malingering, but why not take up a nice hobby like painting or crocheting?

No. 359159

>>359140

I'm guessing some compassionate older woman who met her through church or the halfway house or whatever programs she was in, took her in and when she realised what a handful Kelly is she ghosted.

No. 359164

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In spite of earlier this month trying to be considered for hospice, Morgan (@morgansmedicaljournal on FB) is turning 24. Her mother shows herself to be either an MBP or an enabler by posting this status.

No. 359172

The fact that her "friends" aren't even able to get past the fact that all this thread is is a bunch of people's opinions/gossip and they want so desperately for someone to say something even slightly bullying so they can run off and tell the world that someone was mean to them … Yes ppl can get harsh on here but all anyone has said is STOP LYING, Stop with the stories and GET HELP KELLY! The fact that they(her friends)don't even question in the slightest Kelly's antics is bizarre, or maybe I'm sure there will be a boo hoo woe is me post shortly on one of her social media accounts…

Sage: repetition

No. 359173

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>>359165
Those are some gay ass memes. I'm guessing you're probably Kelly's age, considering they look like memes that 40 year old moms post on facebook. Here's a little hint for you since you're too retarded to realize it: spamming this thread does absolutely nothing except waste your time and make you look like a munchie moron.

Sage for OT/replying to WK

No. 359175

>>359059

Man I wish someone would tell Kelly's mother about all this shit. I have a feeling she isn't as involved in her daughter's crazy ass lies to stop or correct them.

No. 359179

>>359079
Just more reasons none of it adds up.

No. 359195

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>>359178
>Innocent

No. 359200

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Hi Kelly

No. 359201

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>>359178
>You don't care enough to leave innocent people alone so why the fuck should anyone care about you?
>innocent people
maximum kek

No. 359206

>>359178

Innocent? We know you're here due to Kelly, please explain her innocence?! How is she not hurting anyone?

Sage for response to wk

No. 359208

>>359146

New rule: for every meme raid, I will anonymously send a dossier of collected information to the doctors treating the people discussed in this thread, starting with Kelly. If you want to be responsible for the cataclysmic fuckup that will no doubt ensue when Dr Hamm gets a detailed outlin of Kelly's lies and Munchieing, be my fucking guest, asshole. I hope the admin will publish your IP address so that Kelly can check out which of their friends is responsible for her getting dropped from the sweet, sweet gravy train.

No. 359209

>>359178
>innocent
You do realize Kelly is posting defamatory remarks and accusations against clinicians, as well as posting their full names, right? Last time I checked, that was illegal in Canada. But you do you boo.

No. 359212

>>359208
I like this rule. I'm going to help. You can do Dr. Hamm. I'll do Dr. Delorme.

No. 359214

>>359178

Innocent, huh? I bet you don't care about the people these Munchies have lied to, the ones they exploited, the chronically ill people feeling utterly violated when they stole their stories, the doctors whose livelihoods they are playing with, the people who would have desperately needed the blood Kelly is flushing down the toilet,… they are the innocent people. Maybe if you had been a friend or spouse or partner of someone with Munchhausens, you knew how pretty fucking far from innocent they are.

No. 359217

We've dealt with the spam-chan.

In the future please just report one of their posts and in the Reason bar put spam-chan, thank you!

No. 359218

>>359214
Not to mention that it makes it harder for anyone who really has one of those conditions to be taken seriously and get the treatment they need. Munchies are turning entire diseases into laughingstocks. They also take specialty appointments/beds that are hard to get, which also takes care away or postpones it for people who actually need it

No. 359221

>>359200

So that means she was sectioned when she was 17-ish, doing grade 11.

No. 359224

>>359212
You could also talk to any of the nurses that she talked about here >>353585. I'm sure they'd love to hear about this.

Sage for being petty/extra/sarcastic

No. 359225

Wait, Kelly hasn't even talked about graduating this year, and her tassel says 2011. doesn't it normally say the year of graduatoin? Or is stuff different in Canuckland? Is this the right time for graduation?

No. 359230

>>359225
She's only posting about it again right now because it got brought up here >>358963

No. 359231

>>359230
Lol Kelly and Nicole follow this thread closer than any farmer

No. 359233

i suggest no one posts anything with any "step by step" sort of thing in here because god knows kelly will use it to come up with her next crisis. i left a comment on one of her posts a while back and next thing you know she's having the same exact crisis!

sage for not being entirely relevant or adding to the conversation

No. 359234

>>359233

LOL she did that to me way back, asking me questions about my illness then wham! suddenly she has that illness with the same symptoms!

No. 359235

>>359234
she copied something from me right down to the meds she was given for it except she fucked up because she claimed it showed up on her bloods and mine never did because in reality a doc doesn't let someone "bleeding to death" linger while they "look for answers"

No. 359236

>>359231

I think they're the ones who post in this thread more than any other people.

No. 359244

>>359208
Every heard of a VPN? Go right ahead and post that fake IP.

If you all hate Kelly so bad and the "lies" she spins about her health why are you not already trying to inform her doctors? If you care so much about services being taken away from you because of her then fucking stand up and do it already. Don't project your shit on me. I'm sure you would all love the satisfaction of taking her down but you hide here instead because you're nothing but a bunch of fucking cowards.

Grow some balls and act or shut up. Your threats are meaningless.

No. 359246

>>359233
Step by step as in diagnostic or medical blogging in here?

>>359234
>>359235
This is just so sad. And yet her little WKs are completely okay with being deluded into thinking she's innocent.

Sage for irrelevancy/non-contrib

No. 359249

>>359244
because it's a rule not to interfere with the cows, newfag.

No. 359252

For the record I don't know Kelly or have anything to do with her. My problem is with you cowardly cunts bitching and moaning about other people hoping it will somehow make the munchies (if they even are munchies) stop their behaviour. Everything here is just speculation. If you want this to stop then REPORT HER TO HER DOCTORS. I fucking dare you. Oh wait, you're cowards, so that won't happen.

You're just as fucked in the head as you claim all these people to be.

No. 359253

>>359249
They aren't a newfag, they're one of Kelly's psychotic whiteknighters who are so retarded that they think Kelly is God or something. If we WERE allowed to intervene, I wonder if their minds would change. I'm sure Dr. Hamm, Dr. Delorme, and the staff at the ER (especially those mean bully nurses!) would be keen on knowing how awful they are and how horribly they're treating Kelly (sarc).

No. 359254

>>359246
yeah don't give her any kind of ammunition to cause herself or anyone any more harm. she straight up illness jacked me so no wk here but i don't wish any harm on her and certainly do not want her harming herself because she takes what's posted here as gospel which seems to be the case

No. 359255

>>359249
Way to create a "rule" to hide behind your cowardice. Sad.

No. 359257

>>359253
Send off an anonymous letter to her doc. I dare you.

No. 359258

>>359255
Way to defend someone who's posting pretty damn cruelly about physicians who are doing their best to try and help. Sad.

No. 359259

The rule only applies here. If somebody sent anything to her doctors and didn't brag about it here, nobody would ever know.

No. 359260

>>359257

Why would I send an anonymous letter when as a physician, my opinion would hold much more sway?

FYI, asshole: if you knew anything about Munchies, you'd know that direct face to face controntation doesn't work and sometimes sending information to doctors can cause them to drop the patient and that can lead to decompensating. We don't want her to harm herself or otherwise come to harm, and sometimes the principle of beneficence overrides what we think is fair and just.

Now fuck off.

No. 359266

>>359259
True, but like any physician, we cannot accuse her without 100% proof (eg. someone finds her tampering with her port, inducing an allergic reaction, etc.). Someone else can accuse her, I won't because I can only theorize, which is basically what this thread is. That and general gossip/bitching. But these whiteknighters think we're some sort of spoonie superheroes or something. All we wanna do is bitch, but that makes us all allegedly evil cunts.

No. 359267

>>359260
Riiiiiight. Cause posting all this shit about her won't harm her in any way. If she ends up harming herself over this site that's on YOU.

All the empty threats are fucking hilarious.

No. 359270

>>359266
Spreading gossip and potentially causing a person gossiped about to cause themselves harm is 100% evil cunt in my book.

Way back one of you even mentioned that you would find it AMUSING if someone committed suicide over this site. Evil cunt. Period.

No. 359274

>>359270
Since you seem to know for a fact she's about to harm herself and care so damn much, it's on you actually.
Why are you here sperging dumb memes instead of comforting her or getting her the help she needs?

No. 359277

I was that anon, actually. I did not say that Kelly should kill herself. If that's what you got out of it, then you completely took my comment out of context. all I said is that munchies can make themselves ill to the point where they accidentally die, which was the case with someone recently. I also never said I would be happy or got any joy. I posted that comment because Kelly reads here and she need to get help before it's too late.

No. 359278

If somebody lives a lie to the point where it's negatively effecting the lives of others, then tries to deflect criticism by harming themselves when called out on their perfidy, that's their problem.
Sage for crawling in my skin.

No. 359279

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>>359274
You're the ones spewing about these people harming themselves as a way to hide behind your bulkshit cowardice. You want to take them down but you're too afraid. Cyber bullying at its finest. Always an excuse and projecting your shit on to someone else so you don't feel guilty. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

No. 359282

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>>359277
Keep on spinning those excuses.

No. 359283

>>359267

Actually, she is harming herself already, and others. All we want is for her to stop hurting herself and endangering others. Now go crawl back under your rock.

No. 359284

>>359280
I'm actually not defending anyone in particular. It's the principle of the thing. Maybe you need to get help for your obvious PTSD instead of spewing shit all over this page.

No. 359285

>>359270
Jesus, you lot are pathetic twats. You might want to take into account that people here have been bullied by the people you're viciously defending, and that they aren't any better than what we're doing when they post the stuff they do about their Big Mean Physicians. And here you are, trying to elicit one of us to ruin Kelly's life and potentially throw her over the edge. You're one great friend, aren't you?

No. 359288

>>359283
Then maybe TRY TO HELP HER INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS WORSE FOR HER OR ANYONE LIKE HER.

Jesus ducking christ you have a pathetic excuse for everything when bottom line is you're fucking cowards and don't actually care.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 359289

>>359283
Then that's her fucking problem. She needs to get some fucking therapy like the rest of us and stop using social media as a scapegoat/reason as to why she's struggling when it's pretty clear she has some severe underlying mental health issues.

No. 359290

>>359285
I'm nobody's fucking friend.

One moment you want to take her down and the next you're all concerned and want her to get help. PICK ONE. Shit or get off the pot. This site would push anyone over the edge. You creators have that one on your conscience. Oh wait, you clearly don't have a conscience either.

ALL OF YOU NEED HELP.

No. 359291

>>359288
We aren't here fucking therapists, if you hadn't noticed. If you're such a great friend why don't you go get her help? Take her phone away, take her to the hospital, and ask her to be sectioned for her self harm and mental health problems. Sperging about it online and asking others to help does absolutely nothing.

No. 359292

>>359289
Then take your own advice and GET SOME THERAPY.

The way you change your stories is insane.

No. 359294

>>359288
you seem to misunderstand the point of this site

this is a gossip site
we talk about people doing stupid things
we are discouraged to interact with the subjects

if they find this site, they don't have to act on anything here
it is just a bunch of people talking, that's all

No. 359297

>>359292
Brotip: Multiple use this site, leading to some posts expressing opinions that may differ from other posts's opinions.

Personally, I'm in this for the schadenfreude more than anything else.

No. 359298

>>359291
For the last goddman time I DO NOT KNOW HER.

What I do know however is that sites like these NEVER help anyone, they just push the victim even further down the slippery slope. Apparently none of you want that so why the fuck are you here?!

No. 359299

>>359298
BECAUSE IT'S A GOSSIP SITE YOU RETARD

No. 359300

>>359298
For fun, that's why.

No. 359301

>>359294
I'd hardly call this gossip when your actions are directly causing harm to the subjects you discuss.

No. 359302

>>359301
If somebody is harming themselves when their lies are mocked for being ridiculous, maybe they're the problem.

No. 359303

>>359300
Pushing someone to self harm is fun? Wow. Well done. What a bunch of winners you all are. Mommy and daddy would be so proud!

No. 359305

>>359303
There's more to lolcow.farm than other people's self harm.
Additionally, she seems perfectly fine with bleeding herself dry without outside encouragement, which strikes me as harmful.

No. 359306

>>359301
actually, kelly is harming herself and the blood donors. people donate blood because they want to and in many places, there are shortages of blood. if i were a blood donor and found out my blood was going to a munchie, I'd never freaking donate again

No. 359308

>>359303
Nobody is pushing a 34 year old ADULT to self harm. She is hurting herself. But your guilt tripping is cute. Do you abuse your significant others like this too when they have different opinions?

No. 359310

>>359301
our "actions" are just words
words kept onto one website
this is why we don't interact

if someone who has a large following can not handle criticism or answer questions, then doubt is casted upon them until they can give answers. This is not something done to just one person.

No. 359311

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>>359305
You actually cannot for one goddamn second prove this.

No. 359312

>>359309
>realizes they're wrong
>spams with autistic memes

No. 359313

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No. 359314

>>359312
You probably think autism isn't real either.

No. 359317

>>359301
It's not directly causing harm, we aren't even directly contacting her to show her what we post here in order to make her feel bad.

As someone who has self-harmed and had a serious suicide attempt many years ago and has had therapy - I can't blame my actions on others even if they were abusive to me, I need to take responsibility for my choices as does Kelly, tbh she probably needs to stay off social media and go back to an inpatient psych ward for a while.

No. 359318

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>>359314
KEK: This is what you look like right now

No. 359321

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>>359311
The other explanation is that kelly is a magic black hole who makes blood magically disappear.

Also your memes are garbage. Have a better one that I made in three minutes.

No. 359322

>>359288

Farmers, remember, don't engage the moron wk-era!! Report idiotic posts such as this one

No. 359325

>>359314
You're living proof that it is. Congrats.

No. 359327

>>359322
Yeah guys, just report and continue on. They're not worth interacting with.

No. 359329

>>359318

Lol this dumb idiot seriously thinks they're helping these cows. We only gossip about people who deserve it for their lies. If they actually read the thread, they would see that anyone with a legitimate illness who's brought up on here is not gossiped about, actually is often defended (I.e. the recent discussion of cf)

No. 359330

>>359314

Here's what's real. When I underwent chemo, I had to have multiple transfusions. Without them, I wouldn't be here. Kelly endangers people in the same position.

I get it, you never took a physiology class because you were too busy saving dumb memes on your iPad. I get it, you want to feel like a hero, defending m'lady from nasty trollses. I get it, you got suckered in by Kelly's tales of woe. I don't blame you: I believed her, too. Way longer than I should have.

I know you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it is absolutely evident to anyone with an understanding of the things she claims that she is making it up.

Or you know what? Since you're so clever, do tell me how Kelly's anemia works. Where is the blood going? Why aren't there any hemolytic byproducts or why is there not a clearly identifiable aplastic process evident on the BMA smears? Do you understand how it's supposed to work, or is blind faith all you've got? Because I used to believe her too, and all I got out of it is feeling dirty and used.

No. 359331

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@ the wk/spam-chan:

No. 359332

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BACK ON TOPIC. IGNORE THE WKs.

Karolyn was mentioned earlier, and in spite of her having EDS, she has no problem posing like some kind of weird stretch armstrong doll all over the docs office. Oh, and then constructung some weird, convoluted caption about said pose.

This one features her crying salty, salty tears about having EDS and being a woman.

No. 359333

WHAT PART OF SHE IS NOT SICK DON'T YOU MEME POSTING FUCKS NOT UNDERSTAND? she COPIED MY ILLNESS almost symptom for symptom at the same time i was dealing with it and i was NICE to her and i feel betrayed that she was using my advice (and then deleting my comments) to hurt people and herself.

sage for blogging and ranting

No. 359335

>>359303

Can someone block this bitch already? Ffs. We don't feel bad, guilty, or any other variation of for Kelly or for shit-talking her imaginary illnesses. Your holier-than-thou attitude, and YOUR empty threats are only making us laugh at how ridiculous you are, thinking you can come on this website and show us the proverbial light. Gtfo. You're annoying.

Sage for rage.

No. 359337

>>359329
BAd example, since that discussion was just people who know little about cf defending The frey life in ignorant ways. They are not respected at all among CFers and considered an example of what not to do. Yes, her illness is real, but these threads cover spoonies who exaggerate and dramatize as well as full munchies. She's not a munchie but is a drama hound making herself sicker than she's has to be.

Agreed that people who don't deserve it usually do not sustain discussion. But the people commenting on cf just showed they'd knew fuck all about it beyond the most basic level.

No. 359338

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According to Nicole's latest post, she is going back on the NG tube through July/August, and then her "team" will have a meeting about their little munchie queen. She keeps with the excuse that they let her have it because it bypasses the nausea? Idfk because I definitely remember her saying she was throwing up even what the tube was giving her. SO.

Also she has this weird fear of losing weight. She binges because she's afraid of losing weight, and then throws it back up. She says she went from 227 to 147, but overweight people often can and do lose a rapid amount of weight without it being negatively impacting on their health.

No. 359342

>>359332
She's so fucking annoying. The peoplehopetribe, cripplepunk, ehlersdanlosgrrls, badcrip and hospitalglam tags are full of munchie like accounts shitting up the place with drama and exaggeration. Most of them have minor liveable complaints that they want to milk for sympathy. There's a few that I think are real, mostly the ones that post less frequently, but theyre drowned in the flood of angsty bullshit.

No. 359343

Pretty sure everyone here is a munchie as well and just jealous you can't get as much medical attention. Go back to your sandbox.

No. 359344

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I continue to be appalled by Karolyn. What personality defect does she possess to allow her to think that draping herself all over the reception area of the docs office? Some fucking ego on her to imagine she's somehow going to be artfully speaking out on behalf of an entire myriad of types of EDS.

No. 359345

>>359342

She's my least favorite type of cow: the 'I'm a white girl who invented herself a disease so I can be sufficiently disadvantaged and rant about ableism when really I don't experience actual disability'. The whole cripplepunk hashtag is full of that - people who realized being a mentally ill snowflakegender who is 1/2048th Cherokee doesn't make them special enough so they got that sweet EDS diagnosis, a stupid cane, fifteen different braces, a Wheelchair Love tattoo despite having only been in a wheelchair once at the ER with a sprained ankle and of course lots of memes about 'some disabilities look like this'.

No. 359349

>>359343

Wondering if you said this out loud before posting it. Fucking lol at your stupidity.

No. 359350

>>359349
Go get help.

No. 359351

>>359344

Genuine question: who took this photo? Did she ask one of the poor nurses or reception staff to take five minutes out of their busy day and indulge her need to be poetic with her body?

No. 359354

>>359343

I spent the best part of the last decade in and out of hospital. Not with a mystery condition, just one that's hard to manage. Over the last few years, I've gotten a lot better, I have more strength, I haven't been admitted for almost a year and I was discharged from all but three specialists. I will be happy if I don't get any more medical attention ever again.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 359355

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Kelly's latest! Someone supposedly sent her an anonymous package

No. 359357

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>>359351

Genuinely lolled at this. I like the idea of her setting up her camera at the reception desk, sprinting like hell to get back to the chairs, and then throwing herself on top of them. Repeat x3 for the perfect shot.

I am also highly amused and somewhat dismayed at the idea of a doc coming in to a rather disheveled room, and wondering why it looks like she wrestled a bear while she was waiting. Fuck me, if she can get into a crouching position and balance like that on those squishy tables then she is much better off than she thinks.

But in general she has such shitty composition in her photos, with no artistry or creativity, that her insisting on the artistic merits in the caption just make it even worse.

No. 359363

>>359357

Crouching Munchie, Hidden Retard.

No. 359364

>>359355

Oh good now she can autoexsanguinate with all of those fucking huge syringes from the comfort of her own home.

WHY WOULD SHE NEED THESE. No where in her list of ever changing conditions would there need to be the need for fucking huge syringes.

No. 359365

>>359355

Oh, how clever. She's pretending that the syringes she ordered to autoexsanguinate were sent by one of us anons…

Your address wasn't posted, you dumb shit. I swear, I'm starting to believe there's something serious going on in her head. But yeah, go play the victim. Jesus.

Ps. Next time, buy 50ml syringes. It's what we use if we absolutely, positively have to venesect someone with hemochromatosis. You gently pull the plunger out and let it point downwards into a kidney basin or if need be, you can Macgyver a Farrell bag's intake tube onto it.

No. 359366

>>359038
>This video is unavailable.

Nah she doesn't lurk or anything. From now on anons please save shit before posting about it!

No. 359367

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>>355530
_chloeblogs had a photoshoot with an epipen.

No. 359369

>>359364

Oh, no. The amount of Thorazine she needs is probably way more than 10ccs.

No. 359370

>>359364

She's saying someone (anon of course) sent them to her

No. 359373

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>>359357

There seems to be a pattern with attention whoring munchies like this. They have these weird bursts of activity that I'm sure correlate with their manic periods, but since esp Karolyn is a narcissist she never has the drops of self esteem. She's just so great all the time.

Also "convulsing and wretching", can you get more dramatic. Maybe froth at the mouth and pee yourself, all over eating a soft green salad. Look, binch, salads are not a contraindicated food group with EDS, and with your frame it looks like you could stand to have a few more.

Your mostly alcohol/carbs/sugar diet is not going to help your joints cope with your EDS.

No. 359374

>>359367

Jesus. This has reached Amanda "I Love My Feeding Tube" Baggs levels of fucktarded.

No. 359381

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>>359367

At first glance through her page I was somewhat confused, as she seems to be a standard and boring beauty blogger. (With a strong emphasis that she admits she's cray.)

Then I get to this little gem and my heart fell. Always going for maximum attention points, these fuckwads. No point in having or pretending to have a condition unless you can get asspats!

No. 359388

>>359355
Her address was never posted on here. She essentially just exposed herself. The lack of self awareness is unbelievable.

No. 359395

>>359373

Nor is her laying around, or all the braces and various "mobility aids". The more your muscles aren't working (esp. if they're immobilized by braces), the weaker they are, and the worse your joint laxity is. Currently the best treatment for EDS joint pain/dislocations is physical therapy, of course these lazy cows don't want to hear that. And ironically it's part of the treatment for POTS as well, but who wants to do something that's work when you can get spoonie accessories?

No. 359396

>>359351
My guess is s self timer.

No. 359397


No. 359404

>>359388

Also, the label on the envelope looks professoinally printed using a heat paper postage printer as would be customary e.g. for a medical supply house.

Oh, Kelly. You blew it this time. I was hoping to be wrong but in your desperation to be talked about, you have conclusively proven what you are doing, and how your mysterious anaemia is coming about.

Oh, Kelly. I was your friend. Why are you doing this to us, and to yourself? Was our friendship and support not enough, or did you think you would lose it if you suddenly for once weren't in the middle of a crisis?

No. 359405

Whenever the topic on here veers away from Kelly, magically something happens to bring the attention back to her. Literally, she's boring. Yawn.

No. 359422

>>359405
Just wanted to say what you wrote sounds eerily similar to what >>354236 wrote.

No. 359427

If you want to continue discussing Kelly, please make a thread for her in /snow/. We will remove any further mention of her in this thread and you will receive a short ban for discussing her outside of her containment thread.

No. 359438

>>359427
I'm on it! Thanks man!

No. 359443

>>359427

Finally! Glad we can move on from this munchie thread clogging up.

No. 359451

>>359344
Where are the other patients who would ostensibly be using these waiting rooms?

Why is she putting her dirty feet and shoes on furniture that is used by sick people who could pick up an infection from the shit she stepped in on her way to "model"

Why aren't the staff telling her to fuck off with her weird attention seeking, time wasting, genuine-patient-inconveniencing selfies?

No. 359453

>>359338
Her fear of losing weight is the most bizarre thing I've seen in the munchie threads since Kadee. If she's so into pageants why would she be scared or uncomfortable with looking slimmer? It's not like she's got
CF and risks being a spooky dying skeleton if she skips a feed or two. Does she have some OCD or dysmorphia going on to cause this or is it just another 'lookit me and my tube' thing?

No. 359455

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New Kelly Ronahan thread is here:

>>>/snow/359452

No. 359456

>>359367
kek i think i have some milk on this one but just waiting on the friend that supplied said milk to confirm she is in fact the correct cow and not some strange mooing coincidence

sage for no contribution (yet)

No. 359480

>>359373

Gastroparesis is a common comorbidity with EDS, and leafy salads are definitely not recommended eating for people who have it badly. So either she intentionally made herself ill, or is plumping for a GP diagnosis…

No. 359483

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Finally the Munchie Queen of BC has her own throne/thread so I can post new cows without them being lost in her histrionics!

Here's another one who has EDS, and claims to have TWO KINDS AT ONCE. I'm not a medfag, but I have met a lot of specialists within this area due to my own shitty collagen, and never have I heard of it being possible to have two kinds at once.
I'll scour the IG for some milky posts later.

No. 359488

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HypermobileGuy, fresh from declaring he won't be using IG to talk about his health (although it's all he ever talks about - even his posts about coloring in and knitting have 20+ illness related tags!), has posted a picture of his daily medications. I've already deciphered the basic prescription strength cocodomol, and stool softeners.

No. 359491

>>359488

White pfizer capsule is definitely Lyrica.
Possibly Gabapentin for the yellow one.

No. 359497

>>359488
I see codeine and Lyrica, and what looks like otc paracetamol and the yellow capsule looks like a decongestant.

No. 359501

>>359488
his bed looks like 3-4 melatonin mixed in there kek

No. 359507

>>359488
Yellow morning is poss omeprazole and oval blue morning is vitamin D

No. 359511

>>359483
Cannot have both 3(Hyp) + 4(Vas). Pretty sure you can't have two types at all but definitely not a pair including Hyp as part of the diagnostic criteria is exclusion of other types as there's no genetic test. Could theoretically have two mutations of different types but you can't get a Hyp diagnosis if you have a genetic confirmation of vas. Makes me think that the Vas diagnosis is probably fake/unconfirmed as it's much rarer and has physical features which she doesn't have.
Sage for medfagging

No. 359515

>>359483

Having had several kinds of tubes I never understood what a super tubie is/was and found adolescents and adults adopting the coping mechanisms designed for young children with tubes ('super tubie' gear, Tubie Whoobies) plain fucking ridiculous and not a little indicative of Munchies.

No. 359519

>>359515

On one hand I'm like "if life gives you lemons", but on the other… idk. It's a bit creepy, the self-infantalizing. I have a IG spoonie saved to share but I'm not sure about it. She does seem legit, but it's mostly the childishness that makes my munchie senses go off.

No. 359521

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I've found the munchie mascot.

No. 359522

>>359511

Cheers. I was thinking along that line. VEDS is diagnosable via genetic testing and can have the same joint involvement as HEDS, so the probability is she has HEDS but is lying about the one that can actually kill you.

No. 359523

>>359521

Who is that?
It looks like someone performing in a Rocky Horror live show (gold shorts, quote written on their thigh).

No. 359528

>>359488

Yellow and blue capsule is duloxotine I think and the white capsule before bed might be gabapentin

No. 359531

>>359523
Found them in cripplepunk tag on IG. It's definitely a Rocky costume but the picture was just a perfect visual for the entire community.

No. 359532

>>359531

IDK mate, needs a Vogmask.

No. 359533

Hey, posting again to ask about that greeneggandspoons whatever girl? She didn't even post that often and the moment she was mentioned here her insta disappered, anyone got anything to say about her?

No. 359536

>>359532
They've got some. Plus "man-tits", smugface, and the convenient ability to dance despite being crippled.

No. 359542

>>359536

Then share some milk, dammit!

No. 359548

>>359483

Yup, you can only have one type of EDS. There is occasionally some overlap of symptoms, but not to the severity of vascular EDS. Also, a good indication is the POtS, it's found in EDS patients usually only in the ones with hypermobility. Same for mast cell activation syndrome. (It's been suggested there's a genetic link between those three, although nothing's been confirmed yet)

Sage for med/patient fagging

No. 359554

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>>359542
They aren't terribly exciting, needs a fundraiser for a service dog because anxiety and fibromyalgia, likes to wear pasties or blue face paint in public. Unnecessarily edgy Christmas cards because he likes making people uncomfortable and thinking it's progressive.

No. 359556

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>>359542
Interestingly enough found a way to put mini-skirt slytherin costume, and a "consent is fucking required" sign into RHCP.

No. 359570

>>359511
she's admitted before that she hasn't had genetic confirmation. she has been diagnosed with hEDS and just has some vascular involvement (like gasp MVP) as most EDSers do…

No. 359578

>>359570

MVP is definitely a pan-EDS complication. For vEDS you'd be looking for something like arterial rupture. (Not medfag, but EDS-havingfag)

No. 359583

I keep noticing many of you saying that POTS, MCAS, other seqalae, etc are just found in hypermobile type. it happens all the damn time on this thread. they can be found in all types of EDS, not just the ones either hypermobility, including the rarer types but there's little research on anything but fucking hypermobile type (I've seen many POTS/MCAS/etc cases at the geneticist in many confirmed classical cases including my own), and many other connectives tissue disorders. if you're gonna medfag and call people out, do it well and do your research so you hold some beef on the cows.

sage for blogging / medfagging

No. 359584

>>359577

You must be mistaking this for the guess-the-gender-ID thread.

No. 359590

>>359584
Sorry. Stopped posting him a while ago and won't again.


Back on topic; has anyone ever heard of a munchausens actually recovering?

No. 359591

>>359590

You mean one who gave up their "sick and special" identity for good? I'll have a think.

No. 359592

>>359591
Yeah, I've read about a fair few cases but never anyone who managed to stop without constant supervision.
Is it like BPD where most don't recover because it's hard and involves accepting that you're not the centre of the universe or is it something that there's no real therapy for?

No. 359601

>>359592

Saged for blogging, but in my personal experience getting a handle on BPD mostly involved learning how to be ridiculously self-aware.

No. 359609

>>359601
Its possible but very rare. I am out ATM but when I get to my PC I will link to some cases.

No. 359639

>>359635

This perplexes me, but in my experience I'm never alone in my doctor's office, or on the table waiting for a technician, and the waiting room is full of people so I'm hardly going to take a fricking selfie there am I?

No. 359641

File: 1500953181015.png (896.13 KB, 933x601, zebras2.PNG)

Here is the girl who claims to have Vascular EDS AND hEDS, listing the physical characteristics of vEDS while showing us she doesn't have them. (Other photos show no visible veins on her chest either)

No. 359653

What do we think about Natasha Coates and brin dunkin

No. 359655

>>359653
We don't care about them. At all.

No. 359659

>>359488
The blue and tan is vancomycin the yellow and blue is a combo pill for migraines that has caffeine, codine and aspirin, the small liquid filled blue one is Claritin that green one is an empty shell that they sell on eBay to fill with whatever you want. The round white ones that say pd 30 are codine, the pgn 150 is lyrics. That's a lot of fucking pain killers for one person for one day, super in pain or not. No wonder hmg is bed bound they probably can't friggen function on that many pain killers.

No. 359660

>>359659

kek,he's not really bed bound

No. 359678

>>359043
Canadian here. That's what most people would do, but when I was in grade 11 this kid's mom started attending our high school. She was like in her 40's. It was so fucking weird, she was in my art class actually. Anywho, I have no idea why she decided to do that. Maybe learns better visually etc. Rather than doing her ged from home or whatever. But yeah definitely not a common thing here

No. 359680

>>359061
We don't have junior and senior high in Canada

No. 359683

>>359068
Hey fellow Canadian, same fag here from above ^ I had a 40 something year old woman attend my high school while I was there. So that's not true! Maybe just in your province

No. 359692

Canadian here. We have middle school and high school in our BC city.

No. 359694

>>359680
>>359692
>>359678

This discussion is Kelly-related, so it belongs in this thread: >>359452

(I posted the comment about junior/senior high. I graduated in 2005, in BC, and we had junior high and senior high. I assumed all of Canada was like that until recently.)

No. 359699

>>359692

Same, but that was my school. Others schools had junior/senior secondaries.

No. 359787

File: 1500978440477.png (439.86 KB, 1781x1194, IMG_0157.PNG)

> Munchie Suit Larry

No. 359788

File: 1500978613313.png (318.35 KB, 1845x969, IMG_0158.PNG)

> This is me… and this is me when I'm Munchieing it up in public with my useless mask and non-prescription Aspen collar

Sometimes I think a lot of these people are like cutters who cut to validate to themselves and others that they've got a disorder. They keep whining about not being taken seriously because their illnesses is invisible… hell, I'm glad mine is and I'm trying to make it even more so, whereas these Munchie faggots insist on it being made clear that they're SOOOO sick by piling unnecessary equipment on themselves…

No. 359789

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What the fuck is it with this 'nevertheless she persisted' bullshit? Last I recall, it was associated with Hillary Clinton, who is such a wonderful role model for spoonies…

No. 359791

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> Oh shit, I forgot to stay on my zero salt diet intended to fake low autonomic function! How will I get my precious POTS diagnosis now?

No. 359794

>>359653
Both questionable to be honest

No. 359796

It fucks me off that these assholes are referring to themselves as 'zebras'. In case you don't know, it's an allusion to what is being taught to doctors - when you hear hoofbeats, think horses (likely causes), not zebras (rare diseases). Before Instagram and before EDS and MCAS and the likes became popular, they were pretty rare, and I'm pretty sure they did not get more frequent - it's just that anyone with a sniffle now has MCAS, anyone with loose joints has hEDS, anyone socially awkward has autism and anyone who has bad memories has SOOOPER SEVERE PTSD. Because chasing diagnoses and being a stick person full time takes less effort than getting a job, a life and some actual accomplishments.

No. 359802

>>359794

Natasha is definitely full of shit. As is Bryn.

Brynn is the spoonie pied piper. She literally turns mildly sick people into full time spoonies. An acquaintance with a minor health issue who used to run marathons became friends with her. A year later and she suddenly mysteriously is in a wheelchair and has a cute assistance puppy. Several of my friends, who actually are severely chronically ill, know Brynn in person and attest to her being a huge fucking drama queen, and while she probably does have MCAS, whatever the fuck that really is (I have a hard time believing a potentially fatal disease that was virtually unheard of up to ten years ago has suddenly emerged in large numbers!), many in the sane corners of the spoonie community suspect her of inducing her own anaphylactic and digestive issues. She has a fairly thorough understanding of medicine and has a few times accidentally revealed she knows how she would induce symptoms. All in all, Brynn is almost definitely sick but also faking most of her level of disability. She literally has no imagination of a future for herself other than doing what she does full time, and I have not seen anyone love being a spoonie (and a popular and respected one, almost like an elder) as much as she does.

No. 359815

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>>359802
Looks like we're talking 2 service dogs? Overkill?

No. 359819

>>359802
>>359815

If so many of these people have got digestion issues, why are literally none of them underweight?

No. 359826

>>359791
As a true Pots patient here, one night off the diet wouldn't really matter. We wake up so dehydrated in the morning, eating salt one night wouldn't matter. I ate a crap ton of salt last night and still woke up with 140 heart rate this morning. They told me not to eat or drink 4 hours before my tilt and I had mine done at one of the more famous clinics. Sage for med blogging (hope I did that right) but calling this one out!

No. 359834

>>359381
>>359283
Hahahaaa love I'm harming myself is you know what it's like to carry an epipen and the effort like I'm hurting myself!!!!!

No. 359838

>>359819
The ones who are underweight have moved onto spoonieism from their eating disorders, or are using it to hide their eating disorders. There are plenty of them.

No. 359848

>>359826
Sage by adding sage to the email field

No. 359851

>>359834
u ok hun

No. 359854

>>359834

Oh, the effort of carrying an epipen!

Lol, fuck off. I've had to carry one and a box of medication since I was 5. I barely notice it anymore. When I have an attack, I discreetly call for help and sort myself out, not make a huge theatre, least of all do I ask my coworkers to take some dramatic shots of my swollen face. I'm too busy, you know, with my throat closing up. And I'm nothing special - virtually everyone who actually has a hypersensitivity condition knows how to manage it. It's only you pathetic fucks who need to make their lives revolve around it because your stupid immunoglobulins are just about the only thing special about you.

No. 359856

>>359819

Most have feeding tubes, and you can get pretty fat pretty quickly if all your life consists of is TPN/feeding tubes and spoonieing it up on Instagram.

The fact that they're on meds that do make them put on weight as well does not help. Heck, most of them are on opioids, Lyrica, gabapentin, prednisone and/or more of these. They will make you balloon.

No. 359858

>>359854
I carry an epipen im the one who is having the piss took of me, ny campaign is doing really welll so I'm ur face!!!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 359864

>>359858
What does this even mean?

No. 359866

>>359858
its just a fucking epipen, jesus christ calm down

No. 359873

File: 1500988480523.png (1.07 MB, 1962x1290, nobodycaresaboutyourbloodyepip…)

Is _chloeblogs spam-chan or is it just coincidental that she's now posting here?

>>359834
>>359858

No. 359876

>>359873
lol orig poster again. I were at school with her and she always like this to. Lol

No. 359878

>>359873
Silly little immature people really need to grow up and get a life, maybe if they had better things to do they'd keep they're pathetic childish comments to themselves.. not just a fucking epipen, live safer love, bit like drink is to you

No. 359888

>>359858

Whatever you're on, it's starting to get on your brains.

You did not invent the epipen in public places thing. It's been debated for years. Smarter people than you have considered it and decided that the risks outweigh the benefits. You can campaign all you want, there are serious problems with keeping a potent prescription medication available to non medically trained personnel to use on others who, unlike in the case of AEDs that only fire if they detect fibrillation, might inject and kill or maim a person accidentally.

But yeah, as long as it gets you on the front page and you can talk about what a brave spoonie you are for carrying a 100g device with you.

Pathetic.

No. 359890

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>>359873
sage for samefagging, just seen this on her twitter.

Apparently she also likes to use the word cunt, wonder how she stumbled upon this thread.

No. 359893

>>359890

Honey, millions around the world have experienced anaphylaxis. There are people with non-histamine induced (bradykinin) angioedema (HAE) who get it every few days! The fact is, you have an epipen, you can sort your own problems, you're not in any massive danger here, you're not dying and you're not at risk of dying anymore than a well controlled diabetic is.

So: shut up and stop doing this stupid drama. Is it just for your own entertainment, or do you want to wave that stupid paper to get into college?

No. 359897

Haha lol, you went school with me I got you now, come on name yourself!!! Such big words but still hide behind Anonymous name, you would know would u and u can control ur diabetics, showing ur true colours now aren't we!

No. 359900

Chloe evidently has no idea what an epipen costs. She's getting all of hers on the NHS, but if all public places need to have one, who is going to pay for the thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of epipens that need to be replaced every 18 months, yielding an annual cost per epipen of £20 or so. Given that you want them to be available, you would need one every 200sqms of area, so a museum like the British Museum would need 375 injectors, yielding a cost of £7,500 per annum. Doesn't sound like a lot but it quickly adds up.

Your idea is stupid, go home.

No. 359902

>>359897

Err…I did not go to school with you. I'm much older than you and also, I couldn't have passed third grade with your spelling and butchery of the English language.

No. 359904

I know how much an epipen is thank u, u haven't got a fucking clue about me, my conditions, my health, epipens nothing! Who are u then come on u sad low life!!!

No. 359917

>>359904
kek at the fact that you dont seem to have cottoned on to the fact that coming on an ANONYMOUS image board and then insulting other farmers in an attempt to get them to reveal their names, is effectively the online equivalent of a 2 year old stamping their feet and throwing a tantrum. All you are doing is making everyone on here think you are even more ridiculous and immature than we already did.

Your idea sucks. Big time. Grow up, get over it, maybe take a class in English whilst you're at it- yours is frankly horrendous.

No. 359924

>>359904

You do understand I'm not the Anon who said they went to school with you, right? Right?

I know quite a bit about the condition you are, rather badly, pretending to have (well, you're one to speak of being a low life!). Ditto about its treatment.

I would strongly suggest you consider learning to communicate and interact with people who don't treat you like the precious little spoonie warrior that you want to be, because, well, you aren't.

I would strongly advise you to go visit a paediatric oncology ward. You need to get some perspective as to how infinitely fortunate you are for having an easily manageable, survivable and non-life limiting condition (or at least pretend to have). You'll still be here in ten years, most of them won't. And if you don't understand what an immense privilege that is, and instead squander it on pretending to be a brave spoonie warrior and campaigning for something terrifyingly dumb and impractical, you are wasting what many of those kids would give everything to have a fraction of. I should know, I spent a good part of my childhood there.

No. 359931

Haha, pretending lol, I haven't pretend anything I battle every single day, u don't know anything about how much I struggle and let alone pretend haha that's more u!!!!
And need to go to a ward I spent my time their more than once, if anything u need to go back to the ward love!

No. 359936

>>359931

You spent time on a paediatric oncology ward? Not talking about your time on an ED ward. People don't die left, right and center there.

Your 'struggle', quite frankly, is perhaps tough to you, but fairly unexceptional in the grand scheme of things, and you've got to be a special sort of self-obsessed moron to think you are some super brave fighter. In your self-absorbtion, you can barely comprehend that however much your suffering feels to you, you are a million times better off than most of humanity,

Btw, I am fucking shocked that you're a 19 year old native English speaker and use grocer's apostrophes and spell worse than I do, and I'm fucking dyslexic. Perhaps you should have spent some time working on your education rather than contemplating on how you would next incite health drama.

No. 359939

>>359931

Oh and lovely comment about going back to the ward. I've been in remission for a very, very long time, but I fear relapsing every single day. So far, I managed not to have a fucking blog devoted to it, though. Still, how very brave spoonie fighter warrior people hope love bullshit of you to effectively wish me to relapse with leukaemia. You totally did prove your haters wrong there, huh.

Sage for blogging, sorry.

No. 359946

So why you so so fucking interested in my life & my blog, and commenting aren't u got anything better to do!

No. 359952

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Not sure if related but this bio made me laugh. Carpal tunnel surgery? Literally, a tiny surgical release procedure with a cut and stitch.

No. 359955

I'm so confused. What the fuck is going on?! Who are these people and who are you talking to?

No. 359978

>>359952
Top kek, that's a desperate attempt to get some attention

No. 359979

>>359904

im the original poster and i don't know what your saying about diabetes

No. 359988

Wow, this thread has turned into a freaking shit show! I really wish spoonies would realize that it's not a competition of who can be the sickest. I've had a chronic illness for the past 8 years which causes a lot of severe pain and other issues. I don't devote my entire life to crapping on about my illness. I do talk about it but my social media isn't and endless wasteland of medical crap. I see my specialist, take my meds, work, have a social life, etc. Whining and competing for attention will get you nowhere. Deal with the hand you've been dealt and get on with life. We all have our struggles, it's not a competition. We should be supporting each other instead of trying to rip each other apart.

Sorry for ranting like a asshat but I'm so tired of this bullshit!

No. 359997

>>359979

I compared a pt w/anaphylaxis and an epipen to a pt w/well-managed T1D: if pt is adherent, her condition can be perfectly managed and have no significant impact upon their life. Sure, having to poke yourself often sucks, but the principle is that her allergies, which she seems to be able to manage perfectly well by carrying the epipen, should not affect her life a lot and the rest is just stupidn drama whoring by someone desperate to be special and stand out - and as she has nothing else to stand out for, with a singularly unaccomplished life that means she has a rudimentary command at best of her native language at the age of 19, this is all she thinks she has to offer.

No. 360059

You don't know how it affects me a daily basis, it's more than what ur saying u low life!
U don't know nothing about how much I struggle or how much I have to deal
Not every disability is visible!!!!

No. 360073

>>360059

Honey, repeating trite bullshit like 'not every disability is visible' might work on the well-meaning general public. Many of the people on this board have visible and/or invisible disabilities, some are in the medical field, some are both (myself included, though I do not consider myself disabled). You've got to start to think for yourself and use your head, rather than expecting that the spelling, grammar and insults of a fifth-grader, commingled with the regurgitation of whatever stock phrases you have gleaned from spoonie memes, will get you anywhere.

The thing is, however appealing the idea sounds that your suffering is something entirely unique to you and nobody can know your pain, the fact is that you're suffering from an extremely well-understood disease. Do I exactly know what's going on in your head? No, but from having a fairly good understanding of anaphylaxis, both through objective and subjective experience, I can have a pretty decent idea of the approximate range of your experience. There's a word for it - we call it the pathophysiology of disease. We know that the pathophysiology of swine flu involves sniffles and a fever and does not involve, say, protracted hallucinations or psychosis, so if a patient whose serology is positive for SIV claims they are tripping with Timothy Leary (you probably have no idea who that is and it's better that way!), they're either lying or there's something else going on. Equally, given the frequency of your condition, your suffering is far from unique. It's frequent and well documented and through quite a fluke, I also happen to have a severe allergy to a relatively common food ingredient. So to assert that you somehow are experiencing some mysterious, externally unknowable pathological process is hilariously dumb. Now, how you process, and live with, your health condition is a different thing. You may be constantly preoccupied by it, and so it may be crushing to you, but that's not the disease, that's how you choose to process it. Severe hypersensitivities are a generally painless and mostly benign nuisance, and I don't need to have some special personal understanding of yourself to known that you're exaggerating and milking it for all its worth, pretending you're in constant danger of keeping over (you really aren't).

Get some perspective. There's a lot of suffering in the world and you're immensely lucky your share of it is, so far, fairly little.

Also, your idea of putting epipens everywhere is a self-serving waste of time. Anyone with a brain and some understanding of the issues involved would know why. I thought for a moment that you were too young to get these aspects of the problem, but then it emerged you are actually 19, which leaves me a little baffled as to what you have been up to the last decade or so. Even someone with your commitment to making a career from whining should understand a little more about the way the world works, not the least that if you mandate something, it costs money (shock horror), which people unlike you who pay taxes have to come up with somehow.

No. 360075

Look twato,
Many people have said it's a good idea and many people support the idea, u don't understand the work that does in to it, like u don't understand a lot ur just happy sitting behind a key board and being anonymous u poor person u have nothing better to do than stalk someone

No. 360078

>>360075
Umm nobody is stalking anyone?

I feel old when I say this but please type full words instead of text speak shit. It's just lazy and doesn't further your argument. It just makes you look even more immature.

No. 360082

>>360073
Imagine what a precident this would set! Every public place would end up needing epi pens, asthma inhalers, buccal midazelam, insulin and glucose, angina meds and fuck knows what else. It's not something that's sustainable or practical. Not to mention the likelihood of theft or vandalism of medical devices.

I feel like this kind of thinking is also heading into a lack of personal responsibility. Can't be bothered carrying a bag with you on a night out but scared of anaphylaxis? Don't worry, leave your epipen at home and use the one in the bar you're drinking in. There's just too many issues with this idea.

No. 360085

>>360075

Do you even know what stalking means? Because it's a pretty serious accusation from someone who can barely string two sentences together.

I've worked in UK health policy for some time. I'd say I have a better understanding of what it the 'work going into it' is. But since you do, and since 'so many people support it' (the dumbest ideas ever had plenty of supporters too…), why don't you answer a few questions.

1) How do you define 'public places'? Do you mean open to the public, accessible to the public, intended for the public or with a public right of way?
2) For instances where a public place is owned by anybody other than the Crown, which is most places, who will be under the obligation to provide the injectors: the NHS, the owner, the tenant or the occupier?
3) For situations described above: who will pay for it?
4) If it's not the NHS providing it, at what rate will the injectors be provided - cost or prescription charge? Will prescription charge exemptions outside England apply?
5) What will the extent of the duty of care be?
6) Who, if anyone, will be under a DoC to use it? Will there be immunities?
7) Epinephrine is a prescription drug. Who will prescribe the units to be held in public places? And how will its availability not constitute providing prescription medication without authorisation?
8) What will the DoC be in respect of training? What if there is a conflict as to who gets to use it? What if there are multiple cases and too few injectors?
9) How will corporate tenants/owners account for the costs?

And that's just a few questions.

There's a reason why health policy is not made by borderline illiterate 19-year-olds who think 'twato' is an effective insult.

No. 360087

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Sweet Jesus.

No. 360088

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Oh, you 'weren't taken seriously'?

Perhaps the fact that you're trying to get treatment for a condition that doesn't exist (neurolyme) except in the minds of people who want an illness to explain why they're sometimes tired and should be allowed to spend all day chilling and avoid reality and woo merchants like the Hansa Clinic supplying imaginary treatments for these people, milking them harder than we ever could, had something to do with that? Also, your stupid mask that doesn't do shit but indicate to all and sundry that you're a special little flower?

No. 360095

>>360088
I agree that their treatment is sketchy as hell, but since when does neurolyme not exist?
Lyme can affect you neurologically, that's not a made up thing

No. 360112

>>359787
It's like raider armor!

No. 360126

>>360095

There's a disease called Lyme that affects the CNS among others, yes. The disease entity that virtually only quacks know called 'neurolyme' that is basically MS and ALS and ME and Parkinsons and HD and SMA rolled all into one and has no form of diagnosis other than presence of Borrelliosis/Babesia coinfections + any neurological impairmen. That's how medicine works.

No. 360135

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Well, hats a healthy attitude. I can't even think of anything that can go wrong with that.

No. 360143

>>360135

And a munchie is born…

I feel so sorry for the doctors that have to deal with these people. Not that are aren't bad doctors out there (there definitely are), but most are way better at medicine than someone who's not a doctor. And healthcare isn't a by-request business. You don't get a treatment just because you want it. Doctors are there to make sure you don't fuck yourself up, which is honestly what a lot of spoonies do.

No. 360145

>>360135

It's not the doctors' fault if your tests show you're fine when your sooper speschel sick

No. 360149

>>360135
why would you go to hospital if you hate doctors? has no one told these dimwits that hospitals aren't just studios for IG selfies, they're where these evil horrid nasty doctors hang out!

No. 360175

I'm not explaing my self to you about epipens & my campaign, all u need to know they will be like defibrillators! I may be 19 but I'm a lot grown up than u

No. 360185

>>360175

Please stop derailing.

No. 360189

>>360175

I see. You can't answer my questions. Which is ok, I did not expect you to understand that e.g. AEDs are limited to only fire in case of a cardiac emergency, whereas that's not guaranteed with an epipen, and AEDs are not drugs that require a prescription.

I don't care how grown up you are, your project is full of crap. You don't understand a thing about the way these things work in the real world, and you think you are going to go out and change the world? Hilarious.

Sage for possible derail, sorry…

No. 360198

You think it's crap but a lot of people think it's great just u mate?,
I understand far more than u! I didn't say I wanted to change the world u just don't get it

No. 360203

>>360175
This isn't the place to do your crusading. Talk to someone who actually care and could do something about it, if it's that important to you

No. 360206

>>360149
Not only for IG snaps, hospitals are full of people to give you attention! Sure the doctors might be mean for not believing your imaginary illness, but there's nurses and cnas and lab techs, all who will pay attention to you! Not like it's their job or anything. And all our munchie friends out there bask in this attention.

No. 360229

Haha, for believing like I'm making everything up lol, Ur such a low life! Like I would make everything up! U don't know what my health or medical conditions are, think ur a doctor now lol

No. 360241

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Stop responding to this epi-pen faggot omg. Y'all should be banned along with the spammers for responding to obvious derailing crazies.

No. 360247

>>360229

Actually, you'll find I am.

What is it about these Munchie fuckers that makes them think they can exaggerate and make up shit, then argue that you can't know because you're not their doctor, waaaaah! Don't you stupid fuckheads realize that that's not how medicine works? You're not special. You're not some rare case. Your anaphylaxis is the same eminently treatable and manageable condition as it is for millions of people worldwide. Fuck. Off.

No. 360254

U really don't understand if u have other conditions it is harder to mange so fuck off cant believe I'm wasting my breathe on a low life like u who sits behind a screen, u think u know it all u know fuck all!
U should be banned!!!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 360260

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Been keeping an eye on a very irritating spooniechan for a while: Thee Crohnie Grace.

Granted, Crohn's is an awful disease. But this girl isn't content with one horrid disease, she's gotta catch 'em all! Recently jumped on the gravy trains of EDS, POTS, gastroparesis, autism, personality disorder, has a gofuckme for a wheelchair, etc etc. All of her physical problems can be put down to Crohn's, rather than the super special illness du jour. But I guess you gotta keep up with the cool kids.

No. 360267

> twato
> low life (repeat ad nauseum)

Kek. So insulting.

Re 'carpal tunnel cow', she recently went on holiday where she was hiking 13km a day (bc THATS a great idea if youre anorexic and severely underweight) and people called her out on it being a really stupid thing to be doing… so her MBP mum took to insta to defend her spoopy daughter's right to exercise herself into an even earlier grave.

No. 360271

>>360254

That is nonsense. There is a small number of disorders that make anaphylaxis harder to manage. One is the bradykinin cluster e.g. HAE. You don't have HAE, because epipens work for you. Then there are the mast cell disorders - mastocytosis and MCAD/MCAS, primarily (I'd assume you do not have mast cell leukemia or ~ sarcoma). If you have MCAD/MCAS, you'll have more frequent attacks of anaphylaxis but they remain just as treatable with epipens, case closed. If you have mastocytosis, the same pretty much applies.

Bottom line, once again you are trying to pull something mysteriously out of your ass by claiming you have some unnamed mystery condition that means that simple treatment for anaphylaxis doesn't work as well for you as it does for millions of people. Yeah, uh, no. That's not how it works.

No. 360283

>>360267
a 13km hike is pretty big for an anoretic. Even if she's munching down snacks along the way it's no good at all if she's had significant muscle wastage or problems with her heart.
It's weird how so many of these people are weirdly close with their mothers for adults. It's creepy for your mum to be your best mate imo.

No. 360285

>>360260

Oh fuck. What's the probability…

See, one thing these people don't understand is the concept of 'etiology'. Etiology denotes the source of a condition. Now, chronic illnesses travel together, but IFF they share an etiology. So an autoimmune illness will not make you more likely to have a neurodevelopmental disorder. So while EDS+POTS+MCAS is legit, EDS+RA, Crohns+EDS etc. are not. Which means that someone with Crohn's, EDS and autism has to independently meet the probabilities for each. These are astronomical.

Also, hypokalemia is not a disease, it's a symptom, and for fuck's sake, it's almost always present with Crohnies. As for GP + Crohn's, that's a pretty controversial topic, with some doctors outright arguing that's not even possible, though I'm a little dubious as to their reasoning.

No. 360299

>>360285
Just looked at her blog and she says she has the genetic mutation for classical EDS.

No. 360302

>>360299
Because people never lie on the internet ever.

No. 360306

>>360299

Then it's a fucking miracle she survived complex GI surgery on an ulcerated colon that would also have torn or bled at the drop of a hat.

But it didn't.

Which for starters makes me more than a little dubious.

No. 360307

>>360302

Nah, not saying that at all, just passing comment, chill.

No. 360320

>>360285
Ugh this girl. Also, munchies never bring up that hypermobility is a spectrum, and true EDS has very stringent diagnostic criteria. And people easily get the symptoms of pots if they are dehydrated or under-nourished, which I'm sure someone with as severe chrons as she claims is.

No. 360327

>>360320

I agree that she's probably just bendy and hypermobile but EDS is trendy,

No. 360329

>>360320
Oops, didn't see where she claims classical EDS. Yeah, she totally would have trouble with tissue tearing. Even hEDS usually has some skin involvement, including tearing after stitches/surgery.

No. 360349

U don't know anything about me!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 360350

>>360329
she's had multiple posts about multiple surgeries having complications because of her collagen I think

No. 360356

>>360327
Have any of our other EDS cows been giving milk? Or the Lyme cows? (neurolyme kek)

No. 360365

>>360350
Still doesn't mean she had EDS, especially since she came out with it as soon as it was the rage, that can happen just with chrons

No. 360376

>>360356

Check out the #neurolyme hashtag, it's hilarious. Equal parts woo and lunacy.

No. 360393

Btw for anyone interested in why neurolyme is bullshit and why most of the Lyme hype is nonsense: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lyme.html this is a good nontechnical introduction

No. 360408

This is a slightly different way of looking at munchies and exaggerating spoonies, but curious as to whether anybody else thinks about it like this. Are all the "big" spoonie accounts either munchies or (if sick to some extent) exaggerating and making melodrama? The lolcowlike behavior is so widespread in this community even among smaller accounts without many followrrs and only getting a few likes that it's tempting to wonder if the whole thing is founded on nothing. At the same time I do know people who I don't think are deliberately faking, and others who are probably just being preyed on by dubious practitioners.

Where is the line between munchie, OTT and legit, in your opinion?

No. 360424

Thank u for putting me to pasture do I need a tent? Or a sleeping bag oh and wellies?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 360435

>>360408

There are some genuinely sick people, and some who believe they are genuinely sick. Most of these are leaving the 'community' in droves.

There are the spoonie superstars. None of them are pure fakers, but they do wildly dramatize and exaggerate otherwise manageable or benign illnesses. Then they build their peripheries, most of whom tend to exaggerate but a good number of them tends to outright Munchie it. Many of them are somewhere in between: they had benign conditions that they dramatized or that they then started to invent some more conditions to go with so as to be able to 'keep up' with the rest. Nobody wants to be the least sick. The worst thing is that the lovebombing on the surface and the fact that society tends to treat the chronically ill with the language of 'heroism' and being a 'fighter' tends to become addictive and it's very hard to break loose from being admired for the most mundane things…

No. 360447

>>358888

Oh my gosh, totally reminds me of that @andiesjourney girl (or whatever IG account she's using these days)

No. 360454

>>358974
So true. She has an IG friend who's so similar to this as well…I wish her account wasn't private rn so I could find her ugh

No. 360455

>>360435
That whole attitude is disgusting. An adult shouldn't need applause for doing the very basic things. Acknowledging that it's challenging, sure, but spoonies take it overboard. It just infantalizes grown adults.

No. 360465

>>360408
I think that what makes a spoonie over the top is the number of hashtags.

But seriously, it's the competition aspect, like another anon mentioned, always having to be the sickest, seeing who has the most aides/devices/medications and always pushing for more, even against medical advice/opinion. Always having to one-up others, they always have it worse, their lives are always the most difficult and the most unfair. Expecting everything to revolve around them, and throwing tantrums when it doesn't. On a different vein (kek), decorating medical equipment, giving things names, making things all cutesy; generally acting much younger than they are. Focusing on how their illness/devices/equipment/etc. looks rather than how it functions. They are focused entirely on what's wrong and how it sets them apart from the rest of the world, instead of focusing on how to live their life despite having an illness. Being an illness instead of a personal with an illness.

No. 360468

>>360465
*person

oops

No. 360469


No. 360470

>>360465
Agree about the focus on style over function. It's all about performing for some of them.

are there any spoonie focused accounts, as opposed to people who happen to have an illness but don't post about it, that AREN'T full of this crap?

No. 360475

>>360470

VERY few, but yes.

No. 360497

>>360470
I think, too, the attitude that being sick makes them different and special, and the expectation that they should be treated as such

No. 360505

>>359533
Meh. Seems legit. Probably why no one responded. No milk to be found

No. 360510

>>360505
She was a little milky, mostly just OTT spoonie, but disappeared. I can only hope she got away from the spoonie community but sadly who knows

No. 360511

>>360408
Imo the difference is legitimacy. There's genuinely sick people with shit like CF, and severe crohns who make the best of it even when their day to day life is hospitals, doctors, and specialists.
There's legitimately sick people who malinger and obsess and turn their entire life into a process of documenting every little thing and exaggerating it.
Then there's munchies, who induce or fake diseases or vague symptoms in order to get medical and social attention.

No. 360513

>>360087
HAHA that looks like a giant fucking condom at first glance

No. 360514

>>360470
@crazychronie on Instagram is one. She's pretty unwell and posts about her disease and stoma but she's not a whiny little suckhole. Pretty positive and generally nice.

No. 360548

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Last month HMG was apparently bedbound and told he'd never be able to walk again. This week he's "settled down in life".
Dunno about him, but if I was told I'd never walk again and was bedbound, I definitely would npt be "settled" a month later.

No. 360592

>>360548

Genuine question: from what I gather, HMG's life revolves around himself, his own hypermobility, his FND, his hypermobility, himself, his FND and also himself and his hypermobility. Did I mention himself and his hypermobility? To the best of my knowledge, he doesn't have much of an education and I somehow have a tough time imagining him standing behind the counter at Burger King, no pun intended. He also doesn't strike me as particularly suited for work on a major construction site. So unless there's a job where you get paid by number of dislocations claimed on Instagram, I am more than a little curious as to what he has bought a house and a car and a dog from. Anybody know what Stygian vein of gold he has stumbled upon that would account for what I am pretty sure benefits wouldn't be enough for?

No. 360614

>>360548
It does seem odd but this is kinda nice? He's not being OTT or attention seeking particularly. Can't blame him for rambling about his issues on his own account, at least he isn't creating drama or exaggerating. he may be right that this is healthy for him, even if from outside he still seems over invested in being sick. None of these spoonies will shake that easily, even 100% legit ill people like crazycrohnie are carefully presenting themselves and tailoring their image. But if HMG isn't wasting resources and is trying to build a decent life, more power to him. Better than taking up a hospital bed.

Saged for possible wk? Never thought id be wking HMG

No. 360648

>>360614

Not to rain diarrhea on your parade, but I would reserve judgment either way for when he's built up a track record. Sadly, with people w/BPD, such emotions can be fleeting and contentment can turn into abysmal despair in no time. It's the nature of the beast, I'm afraid.

No. 360699

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oh Nicole, Nicole, Nicole. if you spend your life hanging out in hospitals, you're bound to catch a hospital-acquired infection eventually. you brought this on yourself, kiddo.

does it piss anyone else off when these dipshits say things like "we plan to try X" or "we will replace the NG" - they really fancy themself as doctors.

No. 360700

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I have exercise induced anaphylaxis (look at me! It's rare!) I don't even carry an Epipen with me because in the United States they cost upwards of $200, even with my insurance. Know what I do? I carry a bottle of dollar store children's benadryl with me. Feel an attack coming on? Chug that shit. Then proceed to nearest ER and wait in the lobby with face buried in a magazine so that staff don't see my face swelling. Symptoms always subside, but if they don't, well, then I'm in the right place. Attack subsides, and go home. The whole drama-free episode cost all of about 50 cents to ward off (fraction of the dollar store bottle).

I just blew your mind, epi-pen chan. Chug that that liquid benadryl and stfu. You're welcome for that.

Sage for kinda blog

No. 360701

Sorry forgot to actually sage my above post. Whoops.

Sage

No. 360712

Thank u for putting me to pasture do I need a tent? Or a sleeping bag oh and wellies?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 360720

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No. 360721

>>359890
erm what
epi pen is allowed all places
I have yet to see a place that didn't allow epipens, why is she making a huge deal out of it

No. 360722

>>360592
His father (step father?) is fairly well off. He used to talk a lot about how he bought him his wheelchairs and paid for his home care, so that's my guess.

No. 360723

>>360721
No, she wants them to be *available everywhere.

No. 360739

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>>359488
How nice of HMG to reply about his meds.
>Ohai Chloe!

No. 360740

>>360739
at least 3 of those can be bought OTC. he just prefers to rip the NHS off.

No. 360743

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>>360592
Look he was kind enough to explain!

No. 360745

>>360739

Actually, Vit D and diclofenac gel are both OTC. Co-codamol is OTC although I don't know if the 30/500 combo is. Melatonin is a non regulated food supplement under UK law and only gastroresistant caps are pharmacy only. I think poor silly HMG is confusing prescribable with POM. It is possible to prescribe a non-POM, that is, OTC, medication, at which point it will be provided under the same terms as any other NHS covered drug, ie. you pay a flat prescription charge unless you have a PPC or a Medex.

Sage for UKmedfag.

No. 360747

>>360723
Freely available epipens isn't a terrible idea, but it's not practical and she herself is an unstable retard.

No. 360749

>>360745
He probably knows he could just buy them rather than getting a prescription, but then he wouldn't be as speshul

No. 360752

>>360743

No doctor who knows shit about FND will ever say something like 'you'll be in a chair for the rest of your life'. The problems with that should be obvious.

In fact, every neurologist knows that short of complete SCIs and some severe brain injuries, there are few acquired conditions where it is anything close to certain that you are going to be wheelchair bound for the rest of your life.

Here's how i think this went:

Doc: "We don't know a lot about FND. It's a strange condition and we don't know rates of recovery. Right now, you seem to be unable to walk. There is a small chance that this won't improve and you will need a wheelchair for the rest of your life,"
HMG: "ZOMG!"

Five minutes later on Instagram:

HMG: "You guize, I am gonna be in a wheelchair for the rest of my life!!! Best get my dad to buy me a power chair so that my cardiac and upper body fitness atrophies along with my lower limb and I will have even smaller chances of ever becoming self-sufficient! FND is totally a real disorder and nothing to do with, you know, psychiatric issues and shit! I totally need a wheelchair and fuckloads of pain medication rather than a considered and balanced psychiatric treatment plan focusing on making me think like a healthy person, stop obsessing about my illness and aim for ability! Then again, it's not like anybody expects me to work - my whole life is paid for by someone else, and I kinda like it, it beats getting up at 0630 for work!"

Spoonies: clap clap clap! U GO M8! #spooniestrong #fndistotallyreal

No. 360754

>>360746

I love that they borrowed autoimmune terminologies and now talk about a mental/psychosomatic illness (FND) or a genetic connective tissue disorder (EDS) like it's got the same relapsing remitting characteristics as MS, RA, AS or SLE.

I wish these Munchies at least tried to keep their understanding of medicine at a fifth grader's level!!!

No. 360767

>>360745
Iirc he lives in Scotland though, all prescriptions are free so he doesn't even need to pay a flat prescription charge. Basically it's a way of getting what are already cheap supplements for free.

No. 360775

>>360745
It's not Co-codamol its Co-dydramol (dihydrocodeine and paracetamol) and the 30/500 is not available OTC deffo POM (as is 30/500 co-codamol).

sage for scottish pharmacy dispenser fagging

No. 360790

>>360775

Oh, sorry, I did not see it clearly, I was on my phone. I stand corrected, dispenserfag!

No. 360793

>>360754

I mean, if you wanna get technical, any thing that involves inflammation of the joints, tissue, etc, whether autoimmune or not are technically "flares" (unless there's a better term for non-autoimmune inflammation / worsening of pain?)

No. 360795

Hey spam-chan. Stop using bloody proxies. You're making the farmhands block the proxies and VPNs, which prevent people who want to remain even more anonymous from posting here. Fuck off.

sage for rage

No. 360797

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And lo a self fulfilling prophecy is born. I'm starting to get the feeling that all of Nicole's former supportive spoonie friends are dropping out of her life, due to the fact she won't fucking knuckle up and do the therapy necessary to correct her psychosomatic vomiting, so instead she's thriving off of the negative attention here. Like a fucking lamprey or some shit.

Threw up your NG tube, mmm, you don't say? I wonder why the fuck the doctors would give her something that she can't tolerate, physically or mentally?

No. 360801

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So, freephim is reaching new heights of crazy. It was only a question of time until her own many incoherent conditions and her super qenderqueerness (ze/hir, people!) won't be speshul enough, and Munchie by Proxy will enter the scene. And so, we find her already effectively diagnosing her child with EDS, because you know, having EDS makes you a geneticist.

I'm feeling sorry for the kid, so I blacked out her face. It's pathetic enough when you're a politically obsessive unemployed Munchie whose whole life revolves around the things that make her speshul, those being not her skills or accomplishments but her snowflake gender and her various diseases. It's worse that that kid is now condemned to see a behavior pattern in which mummy uses illness as a way to get attention and love from strangers. What a sad future for that kid - being either constantly emotoinally sucked dry by mom's health dramas, or finally cracking and becoming a Munchie herself to get the love she has only seen to flow forth amidst a medical crisis.

No. 360802

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It's telling that she doesn't want to be cured, she doesn't want relief, she wants political things and specific procedures. To Munchies, medicine is no longer about making them whole and be done with it, but about the ongoing adventure, much as a wine connoisseur would regard having a particularly rare vintage in his cellar as an experience to desire, Munchies treat surgeries and procedures that way.

No. 360820

>>360801
This isn't "new" - there's a post or two from last year where she mentions her daughter likely has EDS.
Wasn't she extremely unwell for a while, some kind of breathing problem? Was that ever sorted out?

No. 360941

>>360802
she doesn't know what people's individual medicaid would and would not pay for. maybe it won't pay for it for YOU freephim because you don't need it and it's not medically necessary.

No. 360952

>>360802
What's with all these munchies suddenly going on about chiari malformations now?
My best friend had it. It was freaking obvious, she has a really weirdly shaped head. And all it really did was cause headaches. Maybe there can be more side effects that she didn't have though.
This is literally something that you are BORN with, you can't suddenly develop it, and is pretty obvious. It's not like EDS where you can kind of string it along and fake it because there's no real test.

No. 360955

>>360952
Depends on the type. Many do not have visible signs
Also how do you fake EDS? there's quite strict diagnostic criteria and also 6-7 types can be diagnosed via genetic testing

No. 361000

>>360955
I guess if you had more mobile joints than the average person, and you had a doctor that wasn't too familiar with it. Plus, we've seen plenty of people fake GI symptoms. Of course it's easy to just claim it on social media, since EDS people with the more common types look like any other person. A doctor who actually knows eds can tell quickly tho if someone has or doesn't have it

No. 361001

>>360955
There are actually 13 types of EDS, not 7. And while yes 12 of them have known genes the most common one, hEDS, does not. Especially under the old criteria everyone could fit under the criteria. Just stretch your joints, claim to have chronic pain and dislocations and that's it.

No. 361002

>>360952
Sooper serious speschel brain problems? Munchie heaven. And if it's mild, the treatment is just watching it. But it's definitely something you're born with, and an MRI very easily diagnoses it if it's there

No. 361005

>>361001
Yeah it's much stricter now for hEDS. I don't remember exactly, but I think along with hypermobile joints and dislocations/sublexations, it has to affect multiple systems, and they also look at family history (hEDS is mostly genetic, you will usually have a parent with it since it's a dominant trait, although the parent can have it more mildly)

No. 361007

>>361001
You're right about the types, sorry.
But that's the reason they made the new criteria. Also you can't really fake hypermobility

No. 361024

>>360955

Are you joking? Genetic testing is so overloaded that in most cases, people can get a purely clinical dx 'pending confirmatory testing', and there are people in that status for donkey's years. Plus, there is no genetic testing for hEDS.

I am not the most flexible person on Earth and I meet 8/9 on the Beighton scale. That means that as soon as I say my poor jointses are a little sore, I'm eligible for that sweeet, sweet hEDS dx.

No. 361026

>>361007

Yes, you really can. One, a pretty significant percentage of the population would meet the Beighton score cutoff. Two, you can train yourself to be more flexible. My little sister was never particularly bendy until she started ballet, now she meets 9/9 Beighton criteria. You can very much fake a hEDS constellation and you're either a white knight or stunningly gullible if you believe you can't.

No. 361027

>>361007
But not all hypermobility is EDS and also there are ways to improve ones flexibility if you know how it's going to be assessed and it's possible to self-dislocate joints and lie about the amount of joint pain you experience also many of these people aren't diagnosed by EDS specialists.

No. 361033

>>361000

(Un)fortunately, those doctors are rare. And most of these Munchie fucks have their EDS dx from when all and sundry got diagnosed with EDS-BJHS/hypermobility syndrome. I haven't heard of a single instance of EDS patients getting retested if they still meet the criteria. Instead, they're simply being grandfathered into hEDS unless they have had genetic or clinical testing determining another subtype e.g. vEDS.

As it stands, hEDS is an absolutely bizarre diagnosis. I don't know too many other pathological entities where you qualify solely through the combination of a relatively frequent feature in the population as an objective criterion + a wholly subjective criterion like pain.

At this point, demand for the EDS dx is so high that genetics referrals take ages and patients, legitimate and fake alike, insist on a clinical dx by a GP/PCP. That's not unreasonable, you shouldn't have to wait months to get symptomatic treatment and it's not like we have anything else for EDS…

No. 361039

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Who wears a fucking pulsox on a big, button-adorned ribbon around their neck, like a name tag? "Hi, my name is Munchiefuck, and my pronouns are munch/munchy/munches"?

Munchie fucks, that's who,

No. 361040

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Of fucking COURSE she makes 'pill art'.

Of fucking COURSE' half of those pills are supplements.

These people are beyond parody.

No. 361042

Okay, first of all. Have any of you actually read the new criteria? It's quite strict and not something you can easily fake (including palpitus, hernias, prolapse and marfan signs)

Also, being so flexible that your joins bend to far isn't "faking" hypermobility - it's called required hypermobility. Remember that many people are hypermobile and it's not a problem when it stands alone.

I'm not doubting that many munchies have been ether self diagnosed with hEDS or seen a doctor who didn't do their work probably. Also such thing as MCAS can be diagnosed clinically, and therefore you can fake it.

No. 361049

>>361042

1) Find a middle aged rheumatologist in your area, specializing in, say, RA.
2) Turn up, explain about EDS, bring a helpful list of criteria, hope that he doesn't know about the new ones.
3) He'll tell you he doesn't know much about EDS but it all looks consistent. You may get a tertiary referral to a geneticist, ignore it,
4) Go back to your GP and tell them the old dude dx'd you with hEDS. Show the report saying your symptoms are consistent. Doctors rarely specify explicitly which criteria were used, especially ones who don't know much about the disease.
5) The EDS dx makes it on your file. You won.
6) Ask for PT and OT referrals. Ask them for braces and canes and shit.
They'll be happy to see someone who for a change wants something to help his condition that isn't an opioid or a benzo.

Welcome to the club.
And if this sounds implausible, this is straight from a spoonie message board where someone asked what to do if the geneticist they were referred to is uncooperative.

No. 361051

>>361033

I have been re-evaluated three times to participate in various studies. It doesn't happen often enough though. Also most hEDS people would now fall under the HSD umbrella. But since they already have the hEDS diagnosis they get to keep it until they have a re-evaluation which likely will never happen.

No. 361056

>>361049
Maybe i forgot to ad: i don't know a thing about US healthcare. I live in Scandinavia and just getting a diagnosis is hard.
Getting an EDS diagnosis takes referrels to multiple specialists, also there are only two centers in our whole country who treat EDS and also in that case it's only vascular and severe classical. We have about 1000 individuals diagnosed with EDS here, so it isn't as easy as in the US i guess.

No. 361058

>>361051
Some munchies think their EDS diagnosis makes them special, even though it shares all the same symptoms as HSD. But no one wants to have that in their instagram bio's. Guess it's not considered a - Sooper serioos speciuul - disease

No. 361080

>>361049

The old criteria were ridiculous. Ballet dancers and cheerleaders were getting a diagnosis and apparently fine enough to continue their sport while having oh so serious EDS. Being hypermobile can be normal and even helpful. All they had to say was "ow!" and then they can add it to their insta bio and get ass pats.

No. 361086

>>361080

I know people (offline) who were born with extreme hypermobility and other symptoms of EDS and their geneticist told them it was fine to do sports like cheer / gymnastics even though they were disclocating all the time. I think (outside of the munchies) you have pretty shit doctors too that allow even the seriously ill people to come across as fake because of how their doctors either manipulate them or ignore the consequences. Just my two sense, idk.

No. 361119

as someone with veds who has had an organ prolapse and heart problems it annoys me that eds has become trendy. if any of these munchie fucks had an organ prolapse it wouldn't be so fun and worth the ass pats anymore.

sage for not contributing at all

No. 361120

>>361086
There's a copious dance / eating disorder / "EDS" crossover on spooniegram. "EDS" is one of the diagnoses of choice for girls who are being pushed to leave their eating disorder behind but don't really want to. None of them are particularly unwell.

No. 361123

>>361051
No1curr

No. 361124

>>361120

Yes and then they develop "gastroparesis" which enables them to stay thin.

No. 361126

>>361124
Ahhhh gastroparesis, the pretty girl's solution to not being allowed to stay anorexic. You can be skinny and get EVEN MORE ATTENSHUN! Rock that nose hose, supertubie.

No. 361139

your still carrying on about my epipens, you must be so interested, and I know where their going to be, their going to be here their and everywhere.
I must be so interested in my life.

No. 361154

your still carrying on about my epipens, you must be so interested, and I know where their going to be, there not going to be here their and everywhere.
u must be so interested in my life.

No. 361190

>>361126

The thing I don't get is that nobody seems to wonder where these conditions 'were'. It's like they all sprung up. Fifteen years ago, GP was a rare complication of diabetes. Diseases don't just 'turn up' and I am more than a little surprised that more doctors aren't asking themselves the question of where all these people who are sporting those fantastic tubes they so love were fifteen years ago. We don't have some thousands of young people who used to die from starvation and now are saved using TPN and PEG/Js. Equally, feeding tube insertions were rare and limited to a very confined range of conditions - those in need of caloric support (CF patients), those with constant vomiting issues (chemo patients) and those with dysphagia (neuromuscular patients, dementia, the comatose, etc). I get it, I wonder about these kinds of things for a living, but why aren't droves of doctors asking themselves how or why these cases suddenly sprung into existence out of thin air.

No. 361199

>>361154

Jesus, you're incoherent. What the fuck are you even talking about.

Let me tell you how this is going to play out, something you would know or understand if you weren't a complete newbie with more passion than brains or knowledge about health policy. You will complain, you will collect signatures and maybe your MP will see you. You will think this means you won. Depending on how desperate your MP is, s/he might table a speech about it in Parliament. There may be a brief discussion at which stage the same points I have raised will be raised and in five minutes everybody will realize it won't won't work. End of story. You'll get a letter saying 'thanks for trying' and that'll be it. The very fact that you think this situation is analogous (that means 'similar') to AEDs reveals how little you understand about the issues at stake.

The worst part is, the idea is not bad, and it will be spoiled for years because your moronic desire to see your face in the local rag holding up your epipens, which is a fairly pathetic pseudo-accomplishment for a 19-year-old who couldn't make it into higher education and exaggerated her utterly trivial and common anaphylaxis to explain why your life consists of a crappy beauty blog, instagram, whining about a sooper srs chronic illness that millions manage to live productive lives with instead of coursework and getting a job.

The worst part is, you're not dumb enough to not live to come to regret wasting your best years on this. Congratulations.

No. 361201

>>361154

Your life is shit. Worse, it's boring shit. You're delusional. Go home and do whatever 19-year-old NEETs who pretend to be sick so as to stay NEETs without reproach forever do at this time of night.

No. 361213

>>361190

Not W/King some of these munchies but maybe they were just all assumed to have eating disorders and some genuinely do not.

No. 361214

haha higher education I went school thanks, and again u don't know nothing about me, my blog is doing really well, and when my campaign does win I will make sure I laugh because ur properly doing nothing with ur life you sad people.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 361221

>>361213
OK, give one example of a spoonie who doesn't fit into the categories anon listed above (CF, chemo etc) and has a feeding tube, and who you genuinely don't think has an eating disorder. One. Even one.

I'll wait.

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No. 361235

>>361221

Ok, don't get your panties in a twist.

Clearly none of the IG "spoonie" munchie crowd who flaunt their nose hoses are anything but fake. I was only saying that I'm sure there are some genuine gastroparesis patients out there.

No. 361256

>>361235
Didn't mean it as faggotry, i am honestly curious if there are any posturing on Instagram who aren't disordered fucks. But yeah, you're right of course, in the real world there are doubtless occasional, very rare, real cases.

No. 361274

>>361221
Right here. EDS, gastroparesis since childhood. But also not posting pictures on instagram. Unfortunately know multiple "EDS/GP" patients who are just flexible and have eating disorders that have slowed down their gut, but who would be fine if they recovered. I stay the hell away from anyone else with EDS since even those who are genuinely sick tend to exaggerate symptoms or at least never be able to shut the fuck up about their various health complaints. But if anyone's interested in one of the worst eating disorder-trying to pull off EDS while trying to mooch money and attention off people, check out bekah gregory. Insanity and manipulation at it's finest, reminds me a little of our friend Kelly

Sage for blogging

No. 361285

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>>361274

She was brought up in the Ana thread before, but she's super munchie. Says she has feeding tubes for gastroparesis, but I know it's just an eating disorder (she's unfortunately a friend of a friend). She started switching to blaming physical illness after being kicked out of nearly every treatment center in the country. At one point she got caught not only purging from her tube but teaching younger girls how to as welll. Has been claiming POTS for a long time, but an eating disorder gives the same symptoms w/o the syndrome. Suddenly started claiming EDS even though she's another ballerina who spends her life stretching.

And The Mighty is a terrible website.

No. 361288

>>361285

I don't know if she belongs in this thread, though

No. 361303

>>361274
Bekah belongs here:

>>243674
There's a ton of discussion about her disordered ass.

No. 361309

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So can we just talk about Jaquie for a minute. Wether or not her vomitting is purposeful, or because she eats a terrible diet with go, you can see the toll it's taking on her teeth and lips. In some of her vlogs her lips are actively bleeding.

No. 361324

>>361303
Thanks, I have milk in her

No. 361326

>>361309

Tbh, I'm sure some of it is self-induced. If she was throwing up all the time, or at least as much as she claims, she would have lost a lot more weight. She's another "GP" person who seems to eat shit, and complain that she can't tolerate it. One of the most obnoxious spoonies, in my opinion.

No. 361328

>>361274
This is not your blog. Why do you think we'd be interested in your sooper real sooper srs condishuns. (No need to answer, in fact please don't.)

No. 361330

>>361326
She is obnoxious as fuck. After Kelly she's one of my top candidates for "faking the whole thing, not sick at all". Many of them do have some mild, minor issues that they play up and exaggerate, but she's such a dramacow that I think she could be purely factitious. So enabled by everyone around her.

No. 361355

>>361330
Even if she's actually sick, she's about as OTT as you can go. She's one who always after the next treatment, device, etc, and loves every second of it

No. 361358

I have no respect for Jaquie because of what she's doing to her poor dog, it just keeps getting more and more sick. I lost it when in one of her vlogs she used a nose spray that was supposed to about her migraine, but the "side effects" were too severe. She acted like she sprayed acid up her nose, newsflash, no medicine feels good in your nose. I think she eats when her husband is at work and hides the evidence, anytime she shows a plate of crackers there are bread crumbs all over it. She also convinently makes all of his meals, even sandwiches, so he'd never know if food was missing.

No. 361363

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Someone needs to tell her that being in the 50's is not a real low.

No. 361367

>>361363
Just the fact that she thinks she will die in her sleep, from her low bloodsugar and rely on her service dog to keep her alive.
If it's that serious why doesn't she have a 24 hour glucose monitor on?

Another thing that i can't take: the way she insist she can't pick up her god damn slippers and blanket because she's soooo sick. Then move the fucking basket so you can reach it from the couch. You don't need that service dog

No. 361373

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>>361363
Pet peeve: when these dumbasses talk about their "feeds". It makes my fucking skin crawl. You're not a pig at a trough, you don't get feeds. You are getting nutrition through a tube. Maybe "feeds" is the only word for it, but it makes me see red every time.

No. 361375

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>>361367
She's also started on the whole "my house is turning into a hospital lol". She also said in one post that she usually can eat 60% of what she needs, but of course she has to have the tube or she's going to die. Surprisingly she's been able to have surgery (you can't eat before surgery no matter if you're a speschel snowflake or not) and hasn't kicked the bucket. She obviously doesn't have real blood sugar problems, or they'd be monitored.

No. 361377

>>361358
Everything she does has to be public. Like a while back when she posted about her husband/bf giving her iv meds IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE OF COSTCO. Not off somewhere more private (or sanitary, I can only imagine the germs). There's taking care of yourself, and there's turning it into a show. And if you desperately need iv meds, why are you tromping around shopping? She annoys me so much

No. 361383

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She even has a Patreon now! People actually pay her $50 a month!

No. 361384

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No. 361385

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No. 361387

5 people pay her $50 a month, it's listed at the very bottom of her blog description.

No. 361431

>>361385
This pushes her into a whole new level of spoonie/munchieness.

No. 361432

>>361383
Fucking ridiculous. Or disgusting. I can't decide.

No. 361439

>>361432

I am somewhat/fairly sure that most of those are family or friends. What the fuck would you talk to Jackie for an hour a MONTH about?!

But hey. At least we know her hourly rate, in case anybody has a weird fetish for burying their face into a mess of tubes and lines and shit and have their shagging interrupted by a dog licking Jacqui's face alerting her to her super low blood sugar of 55.

Pathetic.

No. 361459

>>361439
Sounds like her husbands fetish right there.

She honestly pisses me off by just existing. It's like she can't go 5 words without saying "chronic illnesses" in her blogs, they are so repetitive, as for Harlow, people are saying she looks SO healthy have they not seen that poor dogs eyes?
She overworks and underfeeds her dog, she feeds her dog twice a day two meals of raw meat and veg, TWICE? She feeds the dog less than she feeds her husband that's for sure

Oh and let's mention her latest blog "oh i ate bananas and peanut butter and it's a safe food for me so yay!"
A short while later "were off to Dairy Queen!"

D A I R Y?! With GASTROPARESIS AND IBS?! Is she insane?! Of course she's going to shit and puke her guts out, all she eats is literal shit!

Saged for rant.

No. 361483

>>361214

but h o w is this going to be funded? usually people who petition the government successfully have expert back-up, costing plans and a time-scale. have you done any of this

No. 361493

Does it matter to you no!!!!, again you don't know anything about me

No. 361500

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>>361459

This fucking bitch. Featured is her golden retriever, on the left, next to a healthy golden on the right. The difference makes my skin crawl at how malnourished Har is.

No. 361502

If this is you epicrazy
>>361493
Epipens are fucking free. You're given 2 at a time. Also "THERE" IS A FUCKING INDICATOR and "THEIR" IS A POSSESSIVE. Or buy/fundraise a fucking bubble and live in it, far cheaper and will give you national media coverage. Anaphalaxsis IS horrific but by the time a random has raised an alert then scrabbled for an epipen you're already dead.

No. 361525

>>361500
Isn't it the Horner's syndrome? It's quite common in goldies and the causes are often unknown.
My dog had those eyes because of a tumor tho.
I hope she checked that poor thing

No. 361537

Some people don't deserve pets. Ugh.

No. 361546

>>361493

Actually, being a U.K. taxpayer, it matters to me very much, and since you are almost definitely going to need public funds for this (even if the pens are paid by occupiers or owners, the enforcement will have to be public), you will have to account for this. It is rather ridiculous that you pretend you are running this massive campaign convinced you will be successful, but without the slightest awareness of how to answer questions and a reluctance to communicate clearly and intelligibly. And unless you happen to be a multimillionaire willing to pay for the whole thing yourself, I don't see what I need to know about you to see that you have been given a handful of simple questions about your proposal, and you couldn't answer one, never mind all.

You've got to have some special form of insanity to believe you are going anywhere with this without showing the slightest understanding of the issues involved. Or is the game that you will get some publicity out of it and that's all you want, hence your disinterest about issues of feasibility?

Seriously, you're fucking this up for the professionals. No serious player will be able to so much as touch an epipen mandate after this for a few years. People better and brighter than you have worked on making epipens more available in public buildings but the practical problems are overwhelming.

Grow up. Then try again. You have the mindset of a sulking teen whose reply to everything is 'you don't know meee!' It's lame and it's transparent and it's ridiculous, and I don't know what you expect this will play out like, but you're in for a disappointment.

No. 361549

>>361500

Jesus Christ. Poor dog. I'm not an expert but it just cries 'save me!': malnourished, and in obvious distress.

Btw, an assistance dog is not a right, it is a stressor and an unusual demand on a dog, and the dog gets nothing out of it. Nothing at all. As such, the ethics of people training an assistance dog to help their nonexistent illnesses and do for them things they're too lazy yet perfectly able to do (looking at you, Jacqui!) is incredibly unethical. It indicates a disregard for the animal's welfare and future. An assistance dog is under constant low grade stress, and it is sacrificing years of its life expectancy to help its owner. Maybe getting your dog to do what every sane person uses a CGM for is not too ethical, especially if you consider that a CGM is always going to be more accurate than your dog, and if you ACTUALLY had a hypoglycaemic risk, you would be getting one easily. But no, it's just another scary word you can use to your heart's content to impress other Munchies and annoy and stress your poor dog.

My heart breaks for Har.

No. 361550

>>361525

IDK, pupils are wide enough, no hemilateral blepharoptosis, OD is only slightly high. Horner's is possible, but it wouldn't be my first guess.

No. 361591

>>361549

Depending on the breed working is good for dogs, when done properly. Golden's love to work, and it's good exercise for their intelligence. Jaquie uses her to do the most ridiculous things that she doesn't need, but that isn't what's wrong with the dog. Harlow is malnourished and poorly bred. Jaquie feeds her terrible meat that she gets from Sam's Club, Harlow got a severe infection from it and Jaquie tried to pass it off like it was something minor. She's too spoiled to care for herself, much less a dog.

She claims to use Harlow for counter balance, but she's doing it all wrong. She claims she's a medical alert for POTS, last time I checked you can tell when you're about to black out. She's starting to do angiodema alert, which Jaquie has convinced herself she has even though she doesn't really have the symptoms. Scratching at your chest until it's red and claiming your throat is closing does not mean angiodema.

No. 361592

>>361591

Harlow isn't even trained for the disorder Jaquie has that would typically use a service dog, epilepsy.

No. 361595

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Yes, she looks so malnourished. Even if you take post surgery bloating in to account, she looks fine, not even that thin.

No. 361596

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No. 361606

>>361595

She looks really healthy; glossy hair and hydrated skin.

No. 361607

I have to say I'm probably a little too mad over Jacquie and all her bullshit. And all the other munchies who say they have EDS. Like seriously here you really seem to want it to bad just take mine seeing as it's far more than some joint instability and joint pain. Also I'm super pissed she's another one whose gonna easily get a wheelchair that insurance and a gofuckme is gonna pay for.

No. 361612

>>361596

this angers me so much, she looks absolutely fine. i've been on a jtube for 5 weeks and i'm so sick still i can barely get out of bed. prior to this i was on tpn for six months and i still could barely get out of bed, but she looks perfectly healthy, with thick, glossy hair, great skin, healthy body, etc.

sage for blogpost

No. 361613

>>361139
For fuck sake learn the difference between THEIR, THEY'RE and THERE.

No. 361619

>>361139
Grammar lesson in a way for your retarded brain to hopefully understand…

THEIR: that is their epipen

THERE: I put my epipen over there

THEY'RE (they are): They're going to pick up an epipen

No. 361621

>>361612

That might be because when she's not tubing it, she's eating at DAIRY FUCKING QUEEN.

Top tip, fellow soon to be gastronauts: if your patient eats at DAIRY QUEEN, they do NOT have IBS, or indeed any other GI disorder, unless they spend the rest of the day begging for death and/or fentanyl.

Now, there's such a thing as 'fat malnourishment' aka 'intestinal malabsorption at normal weight'. Normally, that happens when your absorption of fats and carbs is unimpaired but the rest is a trainwreck. These cases DO need to be nutritionally corrected because the patient is going to merrily go and die from their malnutrition despite looking a healthy weight.

However, I have to say that I have never seen a person with 'chronic malnourishment' (known in medicine as 'chronic malnutrition', Munch better faggit!) look this good. I mean, that skin, that hair and all, evidently intact nails, no poking out bones… yeah, this doesn't tend to happen with the chronically malnourished. Most importantly, since she's making her idiotic grin on both pages, it's easy to compare that very little changed on her facial structure. The area behind the zygomatic muscle, which is normally the most tense in a grin and as such the most visible under the skin if the person in question is emaciated, is not much different, her chin is not abnormally prominent, her eyes do not look unduly sunken considering she's got eyes on and what's most revealing: the distal ends of the flexor digitorum superficialis muscles are not poking out more on the photo where she is starving.

Bottom line, three weeks of tube feeds have not made a visible difference on her. Anybody who has been reversed out of starvation by tube feeding knows that three weeks of high calorie elemental or non-elemental feeds blow you up like a balloon.

Screw that.

No. 361624

>>361459

_There is no such thing as 'safe foods' the way spoonies use the term._

There is absolutely no such thing as 'safe foods' for someone with a digestive disorder. There are some foods which are generally not THAT hard on the digestive system, and others (such as DAIRY fucking QUEEN, you fucktard!) that are very much more demanding. For two persons with the same condition, the same foods will be tolerable and the same foods will be unacceptable. End. Of. Exerfuckingcise.

Then, people may differ, e.g. I have IBS and a lactose intolerance, and you may only have IBS, so that it's a safe food for you.

What does NOT exist is that "I have GP but Burger King is a safe food for me!" and "I have IBS but I can have Dairy Queen, because for some reason their lactose is not aggravating my IBS as much as other lactose, because it must be somehow different, despite the fact that something either is or isn't lactose - I'm sorry, I did not listen in sixth grade chemistry, I was busy trying to figure out what profound yet easy to fake disease I should next add to my list on Tumblr!".

Especially when their safe foods aren't foods but vendors. That's my utter fucking favourite. It's like saying "this brand of peanuts does not give me an anaphylactic reaction despite being allergic to peanuts!"

It is utter fucking stupidity and it is so retarded, I cannot even imagine why we are even putting up with this nonsense from these assholes sometimes.

No. 361630

>>361621
You don't automatically feel better on tube feeds, either. For someone as sick as she claims she is, it takes weeks and even months to start to feel even a little better. Judging by what she's said, I bet she starved herself just long enough to convince her doctor she needed a tube, and now is back to eating the same shit she was before. And who looks that happy showing off a tube? It's not a goddamn fashion accessory.

No. 361635

>>361630

Indeed. Feeds are usually started v slow to avoid refeeding syndrome so if you feel better immediately, you are experiencing a placebo effect.

No. 361639

>>361635

She talks about changing her own rate all the time, if she gets too bloated she'll lower it down to less than half of her goal rate. Someone in the comments on a post pointed out that she looks like she's putting on a decent amount of weight, before you know it she'll be "cured" and get the time removed when she gets too chunky.

No. 361650

>>361621
Yeah dairy in all forms is pretty much a GP No no for tons of reasons. I know when I have something like ice cream I'm regretting it with both ends for days. Same with pretty much all the crap that Jacquie eats.

No. 361675

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>>361621

No idea what you're talking about, look at this super sick looking person.

No. 361685

>>361363
Anything under under 70 is a low blood sugar for a diabetic person,and I've heard/seen her talk about having low blood sugar before, but out of all those tags, I don't see diabetes listed.
What exactly is she claiming she has that causes low blood sugar?
Is the pump she's talking about an insulin pump?
If you had your insulin pump turned off for five hours, your blood sugar would be in the upper three hundreds, if not higher.
Sage for not being sure what all diseases she claims to have, I just got my feefees ~triggered~ since I actually have diabetes.

No. 361689

>>361685
Her low bloodsugar is due to a metabolic disorder, she claims. And the pump is her feeding tube pump.

No. 361709

>>361689

What sort of metabolic disorder? I never believe people who are vague.

No. 361720

>>361709
No idea, only heard it mentioned as "my metabolic disorder" which is weird because she seems to love fancy diagnosis

No. 361721

>>361685

She's never said anything about being diabetic, just that vague "metabolic disorder" I think her blood sugar just started dropping while she was starving herself to get the pump.

No. 361724

>>361650

If her GP is severe enough to require a jtube, she shouldn't be able to eat any solid food at all, or very, very little, and only specific kinds. Plus, usually you have to trial doing a liquid diet, followed by an NG or NJ tube. No responsible doctor should subject a patient to surgery without knowing that a feeding tube is
going to be successful, not to mention getting insurance to approve it. And if she's messing around with the rate, it's not going to help her supposed nausea. It's also a good way to end up with horrible diarrhea, so good luck with that.

No. 361727

>>361639

Anyone else guessing eating disorder? What she's doing is contrary to any suggestions for GP, and messing with her feeding pump like that is bad. Just running it 24 hours a day isn't recommended, and changing the rate that much is just going to fuck up her gi system.

No. 361730

>>361639

Yeah, because she probably told them she can't eat anything so she's getting all her calories through the tube, but she's eating on top of that, soon course she's gaining weight

No. 361732

>>361724

Also, if you have a feeding tube, you have no safe foods apart from maybe ice cream. Everything else can clog and obstruct the tube outlet, which is an important issue if you us the G to drain and the J to feed.

I think she is going for a mito dx. It's an oldie and a goodie because it can literally cause any symptom and there are no conclusive diagnostic methods for all but one mitochondrial disorder. Used to be very popular among Munchies, but then two very popular girls who had mito passed away in short succession (one was a dubious case and arguably her death could have been more due to iatrogenic damage than any actual disease process!), and most people understood it's srs bznss and traded it for Ehlersdanlomastcellactivatistatichypotensivetachycardogastroparesis.

No. 361733

>>361721

Surprise! Your blood sugar drops when you're not eating. Anyone who really wants to can develop "low blood sugar". She's also trying to justify having that poor dog, so it'd be easy to come up with a story that has the dog saving the day. It's not like anyone other than her enabling, pussy-whipped husband was there to witness it.

No. 361734

>>361727

If she has a metabolic disorder that causes hypoglycaemia, changing her feed rate is the last thing she should do! She should be on slow ramped feeds, and use trophic feeds together with promotility agents like octreotide.

No. 361736

>>361733

Q from a non dog owner: how the fuck would a dog who has not been trained as a glucose alert dog sense hypos?

No. 361738

>>361732

I'm wondering if she wants the g tube part so she can purge the shit she eats

No. 361743

>>361736

How, I don't entirely know, being a cat owner myself. But those dogs supposedly detect ketones, and a dog that's been trained for that costs anywhere from $8000-$20,000. So pretty much her story is bs.

No. 361746

>>361736
Some dogs are just natural alerters it's a genetic thing but you have no way of telling if a dog is a natural alerter or not. They are basically magical unicorns and you're really lucky lotto style if you end up with a natural alerter and happen to also be disabled. But a dog can be trained to detect low and high blood sugar via spit but they cannot be trained to detect things like blood pressure or if a seizure is about to happen.

No. 361773

>>361738

I find it astounding that any doctor would put a j-tube straight into someone like Jacquie. How is it ethical? USA, I wouldn't want to live there if this sort of thing happens often.

No. 361788

>>361773

Google Press-Ganey. That should explain it :)

No. 361792

>>361736

The actual trained diabetic dogs are trained to smell it in saliva. The most common way to train it is: when blood sugar is low or high soak cotton balls in your mouth, freeze them, then hide them places. When the dog finds them, reward them. Repeat for like a year.

No. 361795

>>361773

In the vlog where she gets it she basically says she convinced the doctor's she would just throw up the NJ.

No. 361801

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She posted this today.

No. 361803

>>361801
She needs to be warned about fainting? wtf, if you have pots there's no doubt when you're about to faint

No. 361806

>>360802
If this dumb cow spent half the amount of time she does documenting her fake struggle on studying the Islam/terrorism??? She wouldn't be writing this shit in the right corner. Silly infidel ho.

No. 361807

>>361801
that poor malnourished dog needs an assistance dog of its own.

No. 361812

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I'm still not over the incredibly staged hospital proposal.

No. 361814

>>361788

Thank you. That is genuinely scary. Not saying socialised medicine is the answer - far from it - but neither is this.

No. 361815

>>361812

I would hate to be proposed to in a fucking hospital.

No. 361816

>>361803

POSTURAL ORTHOSTATIC Tachycardia Syndrome.

That means you will generally faint at/around/after standing up.

Anything else is more likely to be a side effect of your 473848586862 different medications and a vascular system battered by infusing high volumes whenever you feel like it at whatever rate you feel is right like a fucking dumbass, rather than POTS.

No. 361819

>>361816
Yeah and it's not like you just faint with no warning
Goddamn if you're dizzy and feeling faint just sit the fuck down

No. 361820

>>361812

Oooooh that gentle hint at that most tragic of all tragic love tropes: the beautiful young girl withering away from [consumption/cancer/an advanced case of chronic patheticism], married just in time by her husband and soon to be widower…

Oh, Jesus. Fuck you. You're not dying, quit with the fucking drama.

No. 361822

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Why the fuck does she need IVIG? Why are they wasting it on her?

No. 361828

Don't take the piss out eating disorders, pots, relapses, ng tubes u idorts!

No. 361834

>>361828

HAHAHAHAHA.

Are WE taking the piss out of them, or are the people who play pretend tourist in a world that for many of us was a prison for years? Because I think that if anyone is 'taking the piss', as you say with the grammar and education of someone who has been mainly hanging out on WebMD and Tumblr after Grade 5, it is those assholes who use them as fashion accessories and trendy things to have to gain some more of that sweet, sweet spoonie sympathy. What do you think, Chloe?

No. 361841

>>361822

Oh stop the drama, IVIG side effects are very rare and there's no need to paint it like you're undergoing some super rare super risky treatment. Top tip: you are getting it AT HOME, idiot. That means it's safe for you to get it without monitoring. The worst side effect you're likely to get is a blasting headache. You'll live, drama queen.

No. 361842

>>361822

Because daddy can pay for it and so her doctor is all too happy to prescribe it! IVIG is theorized to be good for just about everything under the sun, and it has been used with great success empirically, even if there was not a lot of awareness as to whether it would be effective (e.g. for anti-NMDAR encephalitis). However, in most cases, that would mean the family would have to pay out of pocket, at around $20k a session until the insurance company finds the improvement is enough to justify continuing and paying for it.

No. 361847

>>361822
She's not even doing it anymore because she had a super special snowflake reaction too it supposedly where it aggravated her angieodema which isn't even a condition it's a side effect of allergies.

No. 361852

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She's never had a real reaction anyway. She has NEVER looked anything close to this. She will say she just had a reaction ten minutes ago but looks like her normal self.

No. 361853

>>361822
Fucking #ADVENTURE? Oh Jesus, Jaqui you are way too manically happy about all of this. I can't stand her antics.

No. 361856

>>361732
Who were the girls who died of mito?

No. 361866

>>361732
>>361856
Are you talking about Millie? She was from the old school YT chronic illness community. It used to be an amazing support network. IDK who the second was unless it was her friend Grace?

Something else I find interesting is that there is a huge percentage of spoonies with diagnoses-du-jour are white, well off and fanatically Christian.

No. 361871

>>361866

Not Millie, she had myofibrillsr myopathy. No, one H. and one C. The latter was legit, the former everybody had doubts about.

And while you're correct with white and well-off, statistically there are at least as many super liberal lgbtq activistcows. This is more or less in line with the fact that most people cope with illness by fervent faith or absolute atheistic rejection.

No. 361877

>>361822
IVIG only works for autoimmune POTS, which is not the kind associated with EDS. Which also means you'll have autoimmune markers in your blood tests (I think, I'm not 100 percent sure). I don't know anyone with EDS who has that kind of POTS, so either she's lying about the EDS, or she's doing a treatment that will have absolutely no effect. And you totally know if you're going to faint with POTS, even if it's after you've been standing for a while. You don't need to torture a dog to do it for you

No. 361878

>>361822

It's disgusting that she thinks she's worth 20,000 people's plasma

No. 361884

>>361812

Notice the post is pretty much just about her. Everything in Jacquie's life centers around Jacquie. Seems to be a theme for munchies.

No. 361903

Haha,how do u know if I've had a reaction that bad, oh that's right u don't!

No. 361914

>>361903

Chloe, dear, fuck off and take an elementary course in English grammar, please. It hurts to even read it. You exude this self-assured arrogance of the profoundly dumb who believe that the whole world owes them opinions that are tailored to, and contingent on, their precious selves, when in reality you are just another human subject to the same rules of the universe than all of us, just with a lot less education and eloquence.

No. 361915

>>361877

She doesn't do it for POTS. She does it for immunodeficiency that she claims is caused by her mitochondrial disorder, I think.

No. 361917

Don't tell me to f*ck off, u don't like the truth

No. 361919

>>361915

So she IS already claiming mito?

Fanfuckingtastic.

No. 361920

>>361919

meant metabolic sorry. had mito on the brain.

No. 361921

>>361917

Oh, dear. You know, given that you think your idiotic epipen is going to get anywhere means your grasp on reality and 'truth' is pretty tenuous at best. It's ok, you are going to get some more newspaper photos out of it, which is about as far as you'll get in life, without an education, brains and the willingness to do something other than run your shitty blog and fish for sympathy on Instagram

No. 361929

>>361915

Yeah, but she did post that it'll help her POTS (likelihood of that actually happening: slim). She said she was doing it for immunodeficiency, but if she's so compromised, why is she going everywhere? She has a husband that can go to the store and public places for her. But I suppose she wouldn't be able to show off her spoonie swag then. Her instagram timeline is like a quick descent into munchieism, she finds disease after disease that magically fit the sooper speschel symptoms she's having

No. 361930

>>361920

I'm sure she'll add that soon. This girl is a walking hashtag.

No. 361950

I noticed that Jacquie is very young. How terribly sad. What is she going to do with her life when she gets bored of being an IG/YouTube spoonie munchie? It can't go on forever. How about an education? A job? A hobby? These girls are going to regret their behavior one day. Eventually people will get bored of their online antics and the attention and ass pats will stop.

No. 361951

>>361950

She had said she wants to be an occupational therapist.

No. 361962

>>361950

People are pretty much paying her to be sick (patreon), and I'm sure her husband supports them. I think she's probably a lifer. The world has plenty of people who say they're too sick/disabled to do anything, it's just a lot of them are older and aren't on social media. Malingering is an easy way to live, plus getting all that attention.

No. 361967

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Recap of tonight's vlog, if anyone is interested.

Her narcolepsy is acting up. Queue the "narcoleptics function like someone that hasn't slept in 72 hours" speech. Normally her narcolepsy makes her sleep, last night it kept her awake.

She makes Harlow clean up her own toys because "if she bends over she'll pass out" even though you can clearly see her water bottle on the ground.

Hey husband came home, she made him lunch, because he apparently can't feed himself.

She had a friend come over, it seems like she just wanted to try out his wheelchair because it's the brand she wants. She goes on and on about how she needs a super special wheelchair. She continues to use his chair.

She passed out from her heat intolerance due to POTS. She claims "heat related syncope is so dangerous for me, it could've been an emergency situation. Who knows what would have happened if my husband hadn't thought to grab icepacks." If you pass out that easy, why are you going outside in the middle of the day, in the middle of Summer, in fucking Florida.

No. 361995

>>361967
She is just awful.

sage for no contribution

No. 362004

>>361967

If I bend over I'll probably pass out too. You know what's really effective and cheap for that? A grabber. Doesn't get you the asspats, though.

No. 362007

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I've been screencapping a few posts over the last few days. Ironically I've been too ill to participate (who even knows where these supposedly sick people find the energy to vlog and write about themselves all the time!) this week…

Here is that girl who claimed to have 2 types of EDS at once explaining how she totally told told it by like, 5 different geneticists. Except maybe not.

No. 362008

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Also I did a scroll back through HMG's IG because I've been following him a while and have seen some things dropped from his hashtag list. Like diabetes! He's not "diabetic" any more (you'd really hope not with his appalling diet), just #hypoglycemic. Which can also happen when you eat nothing but junk. (pic from 2015)

No. 362009

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Also that time he decided he had Tourette's Syndrome. That's now disappeared from his favored disorders. Why keep the small stuff around when you can claim you'll never walk again?

No. 362014

>>362007

Ffs. She has literally said in the past (can't find a screenshot) that she hasnt been genetically confirmed vascular so these must be shit geneticists to say you can have hypermobile type that causes hypermobility like almost every other type and a type that she has few clinical features of and that they haven't urgently tested for. Because ya know it's deadly so you'd think these 5 geneticists would want to rule out or confirm asap.

She's one I've been onto for awhile because hEDS is purely clinical and vascular has a damn 90% accurate test. Not to mention the fucking numeral system has been outdated for awhile and few geneticists say anything but "classical" "vascular" etc

No. 362016

>>362014

The naming system is confusing. I have EDS-HT, hEDS or EDS type 3 depending on where my specialists trained…

But she's full of shit. If she had Vascular EDS she'd have most of the hallmarks of Hypermobility type too. Crossover happens a lot, having two kinds of the same genetic defect at once does not.

No. 362086

>>361871
Damn it, I can't think of who you are talking about. I haven't been part of that community for several years. I left when the most-sick-olympics seekers ruined it.

No. 362119

>>362007
Seriously, this shit again? Let's review:
-you cannot have multiple kinds of eds at the same time
-vascular eds has a very specific look, and is nearly always diagnosed in early childhood

No. 362128

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Look at me squeezing my face to make it look like it droops.

No. 362131

There are themes with these munchies, I've noticed. The munchier they are, the more likely they are to have an absolute pushover for a partner to enable them e.g. Jacquie, Robyn and Cheyenne. It's always so convenient that their personal slaves are there to catch them when they faint or seize or to drive them to find a doctor willing to stuck a tube in them.

No. 362136

>>362128
Who is this?

>>362131
Who is Cheyenne? I agree with you though about the enabling partners thing.

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>>362131

This is her, sorry. It didn't capture it all.

No. 362143

>>362131

A lot of men with a subservient streak find that the vulnerable spouse is giving them a purpose. They're no longer just any random husband, they're the much suffering caregiver to the poor sick girl. They get so caught in this role that they start to feel they benefit from the status quo too, and as such they never question it, nor do they understand they've crossed the line and became enablers.

No. 362144

>>362128

Motherfucking adults with motherfucking Beads of Courage, prominently displayed, piss me off. It's like a conclusive sign of munchieness.

No. 362159

>>362140
OT somewhat but what is with all these idiots claiming Gastroparesis?
I swear every fucking snowflake is claiming that label now

#WaffleSurvivor

No. 362164

Dani (endlessvoices) just made a YouTube channel!!
Thank you god

No. 362165

>>362164
Milk incoming? Can't wait!

No. 362167

>>362164
Screenshot/link please

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No. 362175

>>362173
hope her speech is more clear than her writing otherwise it's just gonna be her slurring and stuttering about needing opiates her evil doctors won't enable her with and how much weight she wants to lose but never does.

No. 362181

>>362173
Oh this oughta be rich…

No. 362183

Her intro: Jesus fuck, her voice!

No. 362184

>>362183
What the fuck I thought she'd sound like a typewriter eating nuts being kicked down some stairs. She sounds like she's 9

No. 362200

Please please archive this now! Sorry I don't know how to. Much appreciated.

No. 362201

>>362183
Please archive this, I mean. Sorry for double post.

Sage samefag

No. 362213

>>362159

It is remarkably easy to fake using basically any muscarinic antagonist (you can get them for bed wetting and a million other indications). It will slow down your GES to an epic extent. That's why recently we take the temperature of people doing a GES and look for signs of the muscarinic toxidrome.

No. 362214

>>362159
my take on gp is if you can eat applebees/oreo cereal (i'm lookin at you jaquie) you do not have gp sit down. gp is pretty much a blanket illness for 'you can't eat shit all' not 'i can eat and digest this when i'm getting my attenshunz elsewhere'.

No. 362219

>>362201
Done. :)

No. 362241

>>362213

Or eat loads of fatty junk food and tak tonnes of opiates, like endlessvoices.

No. 362244

>>362213
all the zofran these fakers take is guaranteed to kill any motility they once had

No. 362247

>>362244
Right? Progressive ileus anyone?!

No. 362249

>>362247
that's how i can tell a lot of them do it to themselves and have no interest in getting better. they all do their research god knows they'd ask for reglan if they weren't try to induce delayed emptying for ass pats.

No. 362252

>>362249
The important thing with this is remembering that patients with factitious disorders and malingerers are the vast minority and ondansetron has very valid applications in GI medicine. In talking about the few, don't penalize the patient population at large. We have to remember that. Now see boys and girls, this is why munchies are such a problem. We get docs questioning everyone.

No. 362256

>>362252
i'm a nurse! what i've seen is that it's usually the munchies who complain they can't take a shit and then come to find out they're taking zofran every time they get the slightest twinge of nausea. the ones who push it through their sooper speshul ports make me want to claw my eyes out.

sage for absolute medfagging

No. 362264

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HypermobileGuy is definitely not concerned about being special, not at all.

No. 362279

>>362264

Oh, FND, which is basically a neurological form of conversion d/o, is totally not mental, u guise.

As for flare ups… the point is that that's not how most conditions work. EDS, for instance, is a slowly progressively deteriorating joint condition. That's all. There is no biological rationale for it flaring up.

No. 362300

>>362183

She is 31?! Jesus fucking Christ. She looks like she's 55 and has the mindset of 13.

No. 362307

New Dani video!

No. 362311

>>362307

Q: if you're a chronic vomiter, why th fuckity fuck would you have a fucking lip piercing?'

No. 362319

>>362307
Already posted above. Please read the thread before posting.

No. 362320

>>362311
wtf… I didn't think about it but that's hella gross.

No. 362337

I am stoked about Dani's video, endless entertainment!

No. 362338

>>362319

Where? This is a different video.

No. 362344

>>362338
Fuck, my bad. Sorry anon! I didn't realize she uploaded another one already. The dead-eyed, open-mouthed stares of her thumbnails looked nearly the same.

No. 362347

>>362307
Did this second one get archived already? If not I will do it.

No. 362355

You know so much about me it's quite intriguing I wonder if people know the real you, shit life
P.s pots is serious!!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 362382

>>362355

Cancer is serious. Motor neurone disease is serious. Dementia is serious.

POTS is an unpleasant but not dangerous or serious condition.

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No. 362392

>>362355

You're 19. Thank God you haven't experienced serious illness, nor have you had to witness it in others. You haven't seen that moment when someone is in so much pain, they look you in the eye and though they can't speak, they beg for you to let them finally die. You haven't spent months starting your day at chemo, then going to work, dashing out of your office every once in a while, trying to vomit and shit at the same time, having become an expert at sequential vomiting and diarrhea.

You've had a few colds, maybe a broken bone or two and perhaps your appendix removed. Compared to that, POTS is dreadfully serious.

In reality, it's a benign condition that is not degenerative, not terminal, does not cause permanent disability despite the currently in vogue bullshit of asking for wheelchairs for POTS (which will only make the heart weaker and less reactive to postural changes!), and all in all it's a pretty tame condition that is catastrophized by young kids desperate for something to make them special.

No. 362395

>>362164

I am convinced she wants to be talked about here. There hasn't been much about her on here recently and she keeps putting posts hoping someone will take the bait.
Next she will whine about being on here - well maybe stop expanding your social media talking about all your "illnesses".
And of course when listing her illnesses she names anorexia and a bunch of others but doesn't mention any mental illnesses that are likely the true cause of half this. She is seeing a therapist for more than just anorexia.
The being born premature thing kind of explains some of her chaos. There may actually be some cognitive deficits going on. Plus if she was truly raised being told she was a "little fighter" and a "special miracle" then thats probably the only way she knows to get attention.

Also why must she wear the terrible non-matching extensions.

At least there will be more milk.

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Not 100% sure if this is the same Chloe but I think it is. Did some reading back on ig. Claims to have all of these.

Among other things, you can't have OCD and OCPD….

People seem to confuse 'I've heard of this condition' with 'I have an actual on paper diagnosis from a med professional'…

No. 362411

>>362355

I have POTS, have for years, it's not that serious. Seeing these people that claim to have it and say they need a wheelchair are just wanting it for the attention. Sitting 24/7 will not do you no favors. Someone with POTS needs the strengthen their heart, not let it get weaker. All of these that want infusions, your body will get used to those after a few years maximum. Getting out of breath after a few feet, that's not POTS, that's inactivity. No one has died from it, and it's something proven that you can manage the symptoms of.

No. 362429

>>362395

Yeah, if she was a 28 weeker, it's likely she has some cognitive issues.

No. 362430

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No. 362436

>>362411
Haha yeah, these spoonies that need wheelchairs for their POTS are just incredibly out of shape, probably combined with laziness. Malingering, really. Any responsible doctor should be prescribing their pots patients an exercise plan.

No. 362438

>>362436
Same goes for EDS, less activity equals weaker muscles, which leads to more joint instability. But no, these spoonies demand wheelchairs

No. 362446

>>362438
I agree to some extend. PT and keeping active is key, but a wheelchair can sometimes be a good solution - for longer distances or situations where walking/standing can cause more harm than good

No. 362456

>>362446

Same one with POTS above. I have a cane that I use for extended distances, and sit when necessary. These spoonies want them for trips to the damn grocery store. Sure, by the time I'm done it feels like I'm dragging cinderblocks, but the exercise is so good! I've only ever used a wheelchair for distances over 3 miles.

No. 362481

New thread is up! >>>/snow/362479

No. 362711

>>362183
>>362307
Why does she talk like a goddamn 4 year old?

No. 362813

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Even Harlow is rolling his eyes at her LOL

No. 370481

>>359939
If there was a like button around this place. Id like every single one of your posts! And im so happy you achieved remission! Congrats! And totally agreed i watched my cousin battle leukemia from the time he was babe til he passed 9 years later. I wouldnt wish that shit on my worst enemy! What a fucking selfish cunt muffin! -to the selfish cunt muffin- I need an epi if i should happen to meet one of those winged stinging bastards from hell. And let me tell ya darling its called grow up and own your shit. Its not that hard to deal with! Be an adult!

Sage for the rage and blog

No. 370501

>>370481
You didn't even fucking sage



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