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20 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber and her 31 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig.
Previous thread: >>>/snow/484716
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 30+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig is the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Recently moved out of her parent's house and into an apartment with Jonny Craig, which caused public drama between her and her mother, who adamantly disapproves of Jonny after hearing of his history and discovering that together he and Taylor were snorting coke and heroin.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
- Fans are still tweeting at her expecting their goddess to save their impulse bought pets' lives, but Taytay has better things to do!
- Bought THREE new Satanic Leaf Geckos, who are super fragile!!!
and have very specific care needs.
- Plus point is that apparently these geckos were wild caught, not captive-bred.
- Posted a picture of her holding one of these fragile creatures and insisted 'she stayed still while I was moving her so I snapped a picture' when people asked her about it
- Jonny tweeted that Taylor was coming to his tour for the first few days and then meeting him in Vegas and 'ending the tour with daddy' puke emoji
- But wait, she just got three sensitive geckos with very specific needs? No worries! She has not one, not two, but three experts who will come to her house three times a day to check in on them and her fish!
- Also has been putting off editing her videos because muh invisible illness and joint pains.
- Flirting with someone called Karizma on twitter (handle @callmekarizma), the guy asked her to adopt a kitten with him in LA.
- Said guy has apparently been called out for doing bad things like: singing about mental illness and romanticizing it; sexually harassing women especially minors and generally being manipulative and abusive. ( if interested, check this thread: https://twitter.com/diamandisjewels/status/960998257622179840
) Taylor just can't keep away from trash.
Good thread anon
General PetYoutubers thread >>498441
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No surprise that she deleted this.
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God I’m so used to the supervillain lookin fake nails that I assume it’s someone else every time she’s normal.
Also once again holding an animal the doesn’t like to be handled
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But I knew so much, why did animal dead?
Taylor's so full of shit, I honestly believe she convinces herself of her lies. Like with the dead kitten. It likely would have survived if it had been placed with a foster mother… but no, she knew so much about kittens (despite never owning one, much like the leaf insect); and surprise surprise, her ignorance killed them both.
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This is probably why she deleted that tweet. Her and Jonny flew to LA instead of going home to all their animals.
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OKAY sooooo she’s home? And if she is, she clearly has the balcony she’s claiming she doesn’t have from that yelp review she loves so much
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This is about her leaf insect. Not her satanic leaf tailed geckos.
This is Hannibal
It kind of bothers me how dismissive she is about the whole thing. Obviously she doesn't have to be grief-stricken over it (since leaf insects have an extremely short lifespan anyway), but just going "oh well…stuff happens :) I forgive myself! That's the important part!" Over potentially being responsible for killing it is…real weird to me.
Sure, mistakes are mistakes, but trying to absolve yourself of any fault over it is a bit frustrating.
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Pointed comment about not picking her up?
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This is the face of nightmares, whats with his 80s porno moustache LOL
are they the new dentures he got his mommy-girlfriend to pay for?
nice, he looks like a creepy used car salesman. fucking LOL.
Anyone remember what that nasty ass red tatt says? I think his ex Amanda talked about it on a livestream, but I can't remember.
It's hilarious he's so proud of his teeth when his whole face is busted AF. He looks like a old waxy potato with dentures jammed in.
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dude trying to look like kip dynamite
i was thinking more like the guy from the lovely bones, tbh.
i don’t see how taylor lets that face near her
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Why does it look like the plants in Taylor's enclosure for her geckos are already dying??
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I honestly can’t wait to see what fricking animal she bought next. I bet this one is going to be the new center of attention and she’ll be getting rid of some old animals because “they didn’t really get along so I rehomed them :-)))”
Was just about to post this. I wonder if this is the pet Jonny was tweeting about ? I hate her more and more. STOP GETTING NEW PETS AND FOCUS ON THE ONES YOU HAVE THAT ARE BAARELY SURVIVING
Honestly having all these pets come and go really doesn’t help her image as a human being. She really seems more like a piece of shit every day.
I mean clearly she’s nothing without her pets but she can still be “something” with the goddamn pets she has already.
Thanks to all the animal knowledgeable anons out there I’m so curious to see how many snakes she has left in 5 years
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A good example of an ever growing problem
same , anon
But this pet was bought at the same time as the geckoes right? Who the fuck buys a pet then goes away on tour straight after?
Unless its something she could take with her.
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….maybe…he ate like crazy everytime you put food in his enclosure….because you weren't giving him 24 hour access to food… (Her leaf insect)
Searched through her likes on this post and the only response she liked was “is it a dragon”
I’m no reptile expert but I know Komodo dragons are 100% illegal to keep without a liscense. But I can’t think of any other reptile dragons it could be. But I just feel so bad for this poor animal already.
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Sorry if I saged wrong, my first time here.
Found this while browsing the Instagram explore page.
I think it's common to just pin whatever her last video was, but yeah it's got me worried.
I don't know if a shelter would adopt to her but she could easily go on Craigslist and pretend she "rescued" it. Shit maybe I'm conspiracy-ing here, but if she DID go on CL again maybe that's why she's waiting all this time to announce? Waiting for the CL listing to be gone before she posts so people will have more trouble calling her out?
she calls the croc skinks dragons because they vaguely "look like one"
inb4 alligator snapping turtle
or something else dragon like
I honestly wouldn't be surprised, and this is a major tinfoil hat conspiracy coming up;
since she loves her rare or designer pets, what if it's an earless monitor?
they look like godzillas and they're not only incredibly protected but are sold in the reptile community. they're usually illegally smuggled but some people do breed them.
I feel like knowing her if she's seen them she'll want one.
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She deleted the photo of the leaf gecko with all of the dead plants. Hmm.
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Posting this for posterity. Is she actually gonna upload tomorrow or are we going to get some excuse about her being too depressed to finish? She said she was “already filming a new video” two weeks ago
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How full of urself do u have to be to retweet any tweet that’s praising u lol?
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Why is cheese still so small
It's been years
Her big bribe for her subscribers was "get me to a million subs and I'll get a tattoo of cheese." You think she could milk a video out of that concept alone, plenty YouTubers have made 'dares' and then videos following up on them. But it's no surprise she hasn't even though it's been about two months since then and she's done shit to actually get the tattoo, because she can't follow through with anything. Probably forgot about it until her fan pointed it out honestly.
I ultimately don't care whether or not she does it because it's a just a dumb tattoo, but this whole routine of
>promises to do something>forgets about it for weeks>promises to do something and pretends as if she didn't already promise it
is getting real old
Or the original Cheese has already died and has been replaced by a similarly sized cowfish.
Neither would surprise me, tbh.
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She already deleted the tweet saying she was going to spend the day filming, surprise surprise
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Also teeth for tattoo
Didn't take much of a google to find out how big he should be and that Taylor's got another "shouldn't be a" pet….
"[Cowfish] can grow up to 50 centimetres (20 inches) long. While badly suited to the home aquarium, the cowfish is becoming increasingly popular as a pet."
and Taylor is partly to blame for that increasing popularity because her inexperienced fans want to get her attention and emulate her.
I would put money on if she ever did get a dog, it would not be a pit bull type dog. She would get something more designer and unique if she got anything at all. Her last two dogs weren't just a chihuahua and a doberman, it was a 'teacup' (buzzword) chihuahua and a dilute blue (ie poorly bred) doberman. I'm sure she has a story for how she came about rescuing these rare breeds with even more rare mutations, but it still stands that she likes to rescue the more unique and oddball designer dogs. It's hard to make people envious of a pit bull.>>501097
Jeez it looks like those plants aren't getting any sun or water. Are they not planted in soil or something? Did she specifically cut stems of some plants to kill the leaves to make her geckos blend in more?
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Anyone know much about these? Are they common in tanks
It says this on the above website:
Warning: Do not touch bristleworms with bare hands! Their bristles are very thin and will embed in your skin, causing a severe itch.
so…..eww. I wonder if she knew to wear gloves? all it takes is a 2 sec Google search to know that you should.
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She literally gets the simplest tattoos? Lmao that’s so dumb to me…
Bristleworm isn't really bad.. They mind their own buisness.
They actually do more good than harm.
My guess is she got some when she bought new stuff for an aquarium.. So maybe she got a new fish as the secret animal? >>502227
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Soooo tour canceled because venues are finally realizing to stop supporting rapist junkies?
the band's Twitter says the tour doesn't start until the 16th and it's in Dallas, TX
Who knows what his Insta story is about tho
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Also another fan was ~~~inspired~~~~ by Taylor to get a new snake
like she gives a shit about putting animals in quarantine.
i'm more inclined to believe she put them there to show them off.
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>>503163>(so much for clean living)
The Narcotics anonymous community is very split on this, you have those that wont touch ANY mind altering substance, but there is a group that claims marijuana is an instrumental tool in helping them avoid relapse. Like I said, it's still highly debated but research is being done into whether or not marijuana can be used to help addicts.
Personally, a friend who is a crystal meth addict has been clean for about 11 years now but he does smoke weed, saying it helps calm the anxiety that sometimes comes up in his life that makes him feel those urges.
Just food for thought, if a recovering addict says they're using marijuana to not relapse but are stoned 24/7 I'd point out they're still using a mind altering substance for escapism and should probably consider therapy.
Also not defending Jonny's use of it, I feel like he totally still does hard drugs, he openly drinks alcohol and to the recovering addict community that is a HUGE no-no since you can get drunk, lower your inhibitions and easily fall back in to using your poison of choice.
what an asshole. wtf.
it's crazy how much ppl forgive and forget his shit… taylor, love yourself.
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That’s where the video went
Why the fuck would you have to refilm what you already filmed unless by “broke my camera” she also means her memory card got miraculously messed up in the process?
I assume she meant “had to film my broken camera to show you guys proof :)” but uh…. Taylor your fancy iPhone X has a video camera too….. obviously you’ll want to get a new camera eventually but don’t give me this story about how you ignored people asking about your video for three, four days while you posted pics of your animals and dicking around your apartment when you have a perfectly usuable temp camera.
I’m so triggered
with her constant excuses. Just admit you’re lazy and move on.
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So hes still in sa? Anyone know if the concert happened?
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Oh so now she has 3 new videos? I’m so confused with all her lies. Does she have the one from her broken camera or she found the energy to film 3 in her days of being MIA on social media ? Yeah. Right.
Always love th featuring of the hypocritical wrist tattoo
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Looks like she deleted that comment.
Also apparently she has 3 videos already filmed.
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Oh my god, no, I own a chameleon and they are not an animal you should just go out and buy as a first reptile… No no no… That poor animal is probably suffering due to lack of research and its owner getting it with no prior experience with reptiles.
I bet it doesn't get the proper calcium, vitamins, or UVB because the majority of TND's animals don't and this person is following her care advice.
Has TND even ever owned a chameleon?
Not that I'm aware of.
I winced at that comment too. UGH.
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Literally how the fuck
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Now not only is her camera broke but now her computer?
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Not like other girls! Wow! So edgy and cool! The only female herp keeper in existence!
She can make all the wanna be Instagram thot posts she wants and I wouldn’t judge her because at this point every dumbass kid over 13 is trying to be a model so there’s really no point
But stop making your animals into props to try showing how edgy and sexy or cool you think you are
In her Instagram post she says she's currently on the road in a crowded van.
Again? She's left her animals like 2 days after returning? Or did she just never go home?
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In case she deletes it.
Taylor dear, I thought your instagram and youtube were about your animals? Why not even explain how they're being taken care of if you're on the road?
got those geckos and apparently a new pet she didn't even want to say what it was yet. How is she already leaving them?? When you get a new reptile, it takes a little bit to get the temperatures and the humidity just right. But who would leave right after they just got any new animal??? Even for a little bit. You just don't do that? Keep trying to convince people that you care about your animals, though.
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hmm maybe don’t do youtube then if you can’t even put out one video. lay off the drugs, taylor. >>505725
because she’s a liar, anon.
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Soooooo… she pays people weekly to look after her animals?
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She has a brand new macbook, another one from last year, but can't edit because her 4 yr old laptop broke, ok.
I’d be more forgiving of her shitty habit of not delivering her promises if she had actual responsibilities like her mean ol Petco job or actually going to college, but she doesn’t so all these excuses are garbage
If her conditions are really so bad or unpredictable she can’t keep things on a regular schedule how about taking some of the money she’s wasting on buying more thousand $$$ she doesn’t need and hire a fucking editor
From what we've gathered, she spends her days at the mall getting her nails done, browsing for new animals to get, drugs, and netflix.
Her animals are the least of her priorities.
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Solid Gold pulling a Taylor. Am I the only one who thinks it’s funny that she says “My content is about my animals, not my health problems.”? Almost like she’s calling out Taylor lmao
It's almost like you're trying to say depression isn't an actual illness anon…>>506467
I was wondering where she went, the difference between her and Taylor is this is the first time since me subbing her that she seems to have noticeably missed a video, whereas I feel like Jenny saying shes starting videos next week is a promise as opposed to yet another lie on Taylors end
That’s the issue though. As someone who suffers from mental illness like thousands of other people, I still gotta get up and go to work and go to school and whatever i gotta do in daytoday. There’s a reason you get a specific number of days off, it’s so people can’t just skip out and flake on their employer.
Of course mental health is real, and Youtube is probably a godsend for people with physical or mental health problems that prevent them from holding down a job, but that doesn’t mean they can just skip out for weeks until they suddenly feel better. Hire an assistant, schedule or prefix vodeis ahead of time, bring someone else onto the channel, ANYTHING but “hey guys… I know this channel is my livelihood and everything but I’m feeling depressed so I’m goinh to skip out for a few weeks”
I mean, it's not really a matter of whether they can or not but they have
to you can't just keep telling your boss you can't come in due to mental health (even if you do have mental health leave, it has to run up eventually) week after week for weeks. Not if you would like to keep your job
Theres a general pet youtuber thread, this is just to discuss Taylor and nobody else btw.
Wonder how long til johnny ends up getting coked out or something and making a dick out of himself while she has to sit and deal with it LOL
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I don’t know why she even pretends to be humble or pretends not care about her “flaws” anymore, when she’s such an actual narc that she retweets shit like this
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Yet another "do as I say not as I do" because her mouse, crested gecko, and one of her Pac man frogs (i think) all came from Petco. There might be more but I don't know off the top of my head.
I really can't fucking believe she hasn't managed to get ONE rescue animal. I know CL rescues are a grey area because they ARE unwanted and often mistreated but you do pay for them, but even so, I'm really not sure any of hers count at all. We know she just bought the kittens, they would have found a better home without her.
It is really, really not difficult to get rescue reptiles. Almost every town has a local rescue, and it's especially easy to find ball pythons. Just not the expensive ones she wants. But you'd think she could adopt at least ONE rescue ball python… Or adopt an adult cat that might actually have a hard time getting a home. Or even just stick to captive bred animals.
She really, truly does not care about that kind of shit. She just wants whatever fancy shiny IRL Pokemon that catches her attention, and acquires them and treats them exactly like fucking Pokemon. Actually worse, since Pokemon aren't used as accessories…
I bet within the year she'll buy a house near LA and get something pants on head retarded that basically no one should own like a reticulated python.
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Yeah no kidding
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Ok but… Why? What has she even done except hoard a load of animals, barely upload and lie about uploading plans, and occasionally quack about mental health in a roundabout, derivative manner? I swear none of the other Pettubers get fandom to quite this extent.
And bloody hell, how delicate do you have to be to retweet this crap?
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> “multiple shots of multiple different animals”
How hard do her fans think it is for her to film? All her animals are in the same room of her house in closed enclosures so it’s not like it takes an hour just to hold one of them. None of her shots are even cool or well filmed, she just waves them around on camera for 20 seconds and rambles
Why are you dumb motherfuckefs so hung up about how many weeks you’re allowed to take off for mental health? Isn’t that up to the employer? Let it go my dudes, it doesn’t affect you
that said Taylor is just being a lazy little kid
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Gotta flaunt that material wealth or else people will think youre not doing anything with your life
Nah, just lazy. Although I wouldn't be surprised if all her geckos died already tbh
I honestly don't understand what she does all day. Drugs don't even take a long time to do
>>501245>Since falling can immediately kill them
Okay. sorry to samefag but I didn't see this before last post. But no. Falling will only kill them if they are shedding at the time but it doesn't kill them instantly: their exoskeleton gets mangled from the impact of the fall because it's still soft. If they can still eat and hang upside down you can save them by getting them through the next moult. Even if they can't hang, if they can eat you can glue up their feet - it looks barbaric but it's temporary. Lmao at falling killing them instantly. The adults can fly short distances; they're pretty damn robust.
This is the most basic shit you need to know to look after insects successfully and I've explained this to ten year old kids I've given pet insects too. I can't believe how lazy she is, this info is all out there and it's not hard to understand.
Did she keep it in an exoterra? It probably had it's tarsi mangled by the mesh wire if she did.
Not super excessive if she bought it as an adult which I believe she did. Not sure on the exact species, I don't think she mentions it; but some can be pricier than others.
That all said, you know what I find really weird; how we never saw her mantis grow up. It just one day 'died'.
I keep mantids, they don't have long lives, ~1 year. But they're super interesting at all stages. After her initial video on 'keeping a praying mantis as a pet' we never saw it again. I'm betting it met a similar fate as the leaf insect and she just pretended it died of old age.
>>509767>Not super excessive if she bought it as an adult which I believe she did. Not sure on the exact species, I don't think she mentions it; but some can be pricier than others.
It's 100% a really small nymph in the image she posted though. I'm UK and our exotics are much pricier than in the US and I've never seen a leaf insect go for that much from a reputable breeder. I missed that she said it included shipping though, which is actually fair enough considering shipping live insects is pretty expensive when done correctly.
>I keep mantids, they don't have long lives, ~1 year. But they're super interesting at all stages. After her initial video on 'keeping a praying mantis as a pet' we never saw it again. I'm betting it met a similar fate as the leaf insect and she just pretended it died of old age.
Ha hi-five! Same anon. I used to breed I. diabolica before moving to uni and had a room set up for them. Btw sorry for sperg but mantids is actually incorrect, mantises is the correct plural.
Also not from US but EU so prices are from what I know. My mistake on the age though; for some reason I thought hers was much larger and that was just a bad pic.
As for mantids; very much still used as a term for mantidae (of which I keep European and Chinese at the moment). ;) So technically correct.
Either way, seriously, where did her pet praying mantis go? We only saw him when he was a nymph.
I just wish she would be honest about this stuff and not lie.
Yes they do
It’s a different isntallation process
But blizz works on Mac
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This could be referencing her oh so tragic past where she dated abusive people, and claimed to have developed PTSD from it (and then hypocritically decided to date Jonny)
Don’t think it’s necessarily milk
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Is she home again?
Also considering she posted a photo of herself in just a towel perfectly posed so you can see the top of her chest I can’t imagine she took a photo of herself in her underwear by accident. Could have just as easily tilted the camera a little more to the left and got the same shot.
Once again I don’t really care what she does on her social medias, but yeah she can’t keep branding herself as family friendly and pulling all this attention grabby shit. Not even on her social media, I think someone pointed out a few threads back that she wore a super low cut tube shirt in one video and the way she angled the camera made it look like she was naked.
You can’t “dress how you want” and be “family friendly” Taylor that’s not how it fucking works
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…is she leaving again???
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Of course you’re not quitting it’s your only job
You wouldn’t be able to pay for your hoarding habits and expensive lifestyle with a regular minimum wage job
Yeah, JC is in south Florida tonight. Looks like they'll be heading up to Orlando tomorrow. Can't help but wonder if she's visiting him so much due to his past behaviors on tour. Meanwhile she continues to leave her pets with the "experts" (read: dealer) and neglect her channel. You know, the only way she affords all of this.
It's depressing that all of those animals are just accessories to her for instagram pics and attention. She's made it very obvious Jonny is her priority.
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"ma depression, ma ilness~"
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WTF? I thought it was JC cheating but it is Taylor, what is wrong with her nose?
That, and she knows the pattern he follows. If he wasn't using or slightly using while living with her, he's most likely going to start using heavily now. I highly doubt this tour will end well for her, because it's where most of the abuse has taken place in the past.
She's like his mommy he gets to fuck and get money from.
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Her attempt at a rock show outfit. The pantyhose…
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You’d think someone would joint issues that can apparently get so severe she can’t sit up in bed and move her hands to edit a ten minute video would be against sitting in a fucking care for nine hours.
I don’t have any joint issues and my legs and back start cramping up if I’m sitting still for more than two hours
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what is with the hand in front of the face thing??
OR shes showing off her tattoo as usual (its her bRAND)
OR shes starting to cover her mouth like Jonny did because he hated his drug teeth?
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The #jonnycraig Instagram hashtag is horrifying.
kek at least he's not doing that retarded hand in front of face
She had a minimum wage register job at Petco, which she quit the moment she realized she could be lazier (and make much more money) with her YouTube channel. Then she proceed to make an “expose” video on Petco within a few weeks of quitting.
Which would have been fine if she quit for an actual moral reason, and not because she saw that YouTube would pay her far much more money just to ramble in front of a camera for ten minutes once or twice a week (though now it’s more like once or twice a month)
She looks a lot like a young Liv Tyler here. If she weren’t so obsessed with her Instagram baddie fake balloon lips she could totally rock the sorta-ugly natural beauty thing.
Sage for no contribution.
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Her mom genuinely cares about her. In a completely crazy sort of way but all Taylor does is blow her off
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No, Taylor. Be hard on yourself. You’re literally responsible for 30+ lives.
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Last one, i thought her videos were already recorded???
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She keeps hiding her face
I think she got really trigger after she saw how lolcow talk about her.
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are you triggered
Aren't they? They don't fit his face AT ALL. They look like someone went in Photoshop and copy/pasted from a muppet game show host. >>513029
Can we really blame the dentist? It was just their job to install them. Maybe it takes a true artist to paint on the cigarette and pot smoke stains that would make them truly look like they belong to Jonny's face. lol
Also, I know people hate every little thing that Taylor does, but I think the tights are fine.
They both seemed really fucked up in this livestream. Jonny was literally drinking twisteds but he was also like incoherent and said nothing for the entire stream. taylor was heavily slurring her words.
Also, anyone noticed how Taylors name in Jonnys instagram bio is just surrounded by money bags. not even hiding that shes his sugar mommy and hes a leech.
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So there’s this…
well, apparently Liv is also
as dumb as a box of rocks (though very sweet)
An anon can only dream. I’m hoping for pictures or videos of shitty behavior.
And Chelsea can’t return to sender if Jonny doesn’t have any sending address, right? I’m not familiar with all these bills
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Hmmm.. we'll see if this is true or not soon enough, I guess. (1/2)
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Looks like she's home.
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A tagged photo from instagram… what a mess.
I think is mostly the flash effect,probably in day light it doesnt look has shitty.
I never realize her nose had that shape, i always thought it was pointy at the end.
I was noticing her eyes too definitely looks like she was crying or something becaus that looks orange and no mascara or lashes
DEFINITELY thought it was a bun at first. That’s just unfortunate hahahaha
It's most likely insecurity of showing her full face.
Think of Leafy always covering his chin in photos. Kinda to frame her face in an "appealing" way.
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So thirsty oh my god
hope she cheats on jonny (pre-empting him cheating on her if she's been kicked off the tour?)
we need some fresh milk up in here.
Most of her income comes from her merch, not her videos.
Besides, most of her videos don't even reach 1mil views, although it is good money regardless.
It's gonna last her a while because she still has dedicated fans, but youtube is fickle like that, so they'll forget about her or just stop engaging the more she goes without updating content.
>>513958>Maybe johnny is starting to pay the bills.
This is the least likely scenario. The venues where his band is playing at are not big and the tickets are cheap.
Plus his exes have managed to shut down some of his appearances.
He may make money from the album but he won’t from the tour. Different city every night in small 100-200 person venues, if you can even call them that because some of them are just bars. Tickets are $15. Split that between the label, the rest of the band, venue, merch crew, roadies, etc.
I think it’s drugs and laziness and her immaturity. Jonny is a terrible influence, egging on her impulsive high-dollar spending, and she doesn’t have to foresight to see she’s not some celebrity (neither is he for that matter) and this party life won’t last forever. At the rate she’s going with her videos, it won’t even last more than a few months. I wonder if she’ll ever get to the point where she ever starts begging a la Tuna haha.
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What the crap is she wearing
lol Her nails look far better natural though imho. Better for looking after her pets too; she's not going to stab one of them without her talons.
Honestly in the above pictures, she'd have been better going full no makeup than whatever that was. It emphasised all the wrong things, made her look wrecked.
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This also happened this is Chelsea, Jonny’s ex fiancé. However the original tweet has been deleted. I assume it was the one about drinking and passing out
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Taylors mum is having a mental breakdown on twitter right now
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Also, found an old picture of Taylor from 2014. She’s changed so much
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Update, her mom deleted all the tweets and posted this
The account is still posting things about how it's true but they're not posting proof and saying some bullshit about not wanting to be identified.
Honestly if you're gonna be talking shit the least you could do is provide proof because no one's gonna believe your word alone.
It's already deleted, but it had posts from earlier today saying that.
Are we looking at the same picture? Do you even wear makeup?
Her face is just blotchy. That's not powder or eye makeup rubbed off. Y'all are blind.
Yo take a better look at the picture. It was taken with flash. The splotchyness that's on her skin is an obvious result of using a powder that's not camera friendly. that's why she probably thought it looked ok in the dark lighting/didn't fix it in the mirror.
Also not sure how you can't see the obvious eyeshadow around her eyes? lol
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#kingsland is the name of the brooklyn venue from last night. she's still on the tour and has been away from her animals for a week now.
Damn she looks different every day lol
She keeps posting the odd photo of her animals - maybe to throw people off? It's okay though because she has 5 prOFESSIONALS!! looking after them
the original plan was she was gonna be at the texas shows and then supposedly rejoin him at the vegas date on the 8th. who wants to bet she stays throughout the entire tour because she's heeding warnings of all those girls who "lied" about him and doesn't want to get cheated on/see him relapse?
PSA your relationship sucks if you feel the need to stalk your partner and have eyes on them at all times.
also, for someone who knows people are gonna ask for pictures she doesn't put much effort into her physical appearance each night (which you think she'd have plenty of time for since she's not filming or editing. jonny is probably busy with set up, warm ups, sound checks, fan interactions and playing the actual shows, what is SHE doing all day?
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“Would love to see a care video on a snake I’m getting so I don’t have to waste time preparing and doing the research myself!”
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Not sure if this is relevant but I think Em is still reading this thread.
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She must really like fish because she kisses like one. (From J's recent insta live)
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Yeah you’d think someone with severe fragility and joint issues wouldn’t want to skate around where she could potentially I don’t know… fall down on solid ice, crash into other people or have someone fall on top of her.
I really don’t like to be all hurr durr she’s faking it because I really don’t care and that’s dumb to worry about, but if her poor delicate bones are one of the things that she’s using as an excuse as to why she can’t edit her videos on time, then she shouldn’t be able to just openly be able to do this shit right?
I can’t understsnd how her fans are so fucking dumb.
Yes people with chronic health problems have good days and bad days, yes you can have month a flare up. But that doesn’t mean you should intentionally do shit that could aggravate your condition if you’re feeling normal.
It would be like her deciding to eat gluten despite claiming to have Celiac just because she “feels okay today.” Not even a dumb ass would do that.
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Are we supposed to believe emzotic when she says she's not throwing shade at Taylor?? Lmao ok. She definitely gets ammo from these threads
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First pic. Standing "normally" with her fuckin hand chin BRAND of course.
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Second pic, they are both facing backwards to the flags, she would have literally had to WRENCH him down with her. Aw so cute. (She has abnormal strength and cunning for someone who can't sit at a computer for a few hours to jump cut a shitty video)
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Third pic, the one she posted. Aw such fun. I definitely am not too fragile to be doing any of this. What Youtube channel? Oh fuck them, and also my animals. I have drugs and a boyfriend and no EDS now!
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that look on his face
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What the hell is her obsession with this one photo? Does she not have any other pictures of Nala or does she keep recycling this meme because it was what got her popularity?
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wonder if she'll ever respond to this
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come on anon, you know it's both
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How the hell would going out with Jonny fix her depression? Don’t they live together?!
Or is she so attached at this point that she gets depressed if she’s by herself for more than three days?
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Our good ol family friendly pet mom repping that underage drinking life!
Speaking of, doesn’t most alcohol have gluten in it? Unless it’s vodka or something. Not a heavy drinker so I don’t know.
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so she paid a thousand dollars for her man children to drink
Plus it’s a matter of needing actual photo or video evidence, and as far as we know she just bought everyone drinks (wonder if she has a fake ID or if Jonny took her money to buy it)
It’s stupid to say that people who present themselves as family friendly can never participate in non-family friendly stuff outside of their work…but the problem is that she’s never been “family friendly”
She dresses and cakes on makeup like she’s begging for attention, hangs out with druggies and brags about how much money she can spend on unnecessary shit.
I assume she calls herself “family friendly” because she talks about animals and doesn’t swear (on her channel anyway) because that’s the only thing remotely PG
Well, Taylor hasn't learned, most people, including her own boyfriend don't want to spend hours talking about her favorite subject. Herself.>>515918
This girl has literally NO REASON to be depressed. She's just ungrateful for everything she already has (animals, luxury) and nothing will EVER be enough for her. She can afford counseling but doesn't go. She can go swimming everyday in her apartment pool which would be good for her condition and mental health (but it's hard to believe her anyway). Also, over a million subscribers on Youtube, most of which had at one point adored her, that she lies too on average. It's the bullshit lies she gets caught in that she's probably depressed about, because she couldn't fool everyone. I think it's one reason why she actually names her animals after Disney characters, not just because of her brother, but because she wants to come off as Disney princess-like and pure. Like when she pretended she adopted a kitten from Petco, but actually bought off of Craigslist, there's always some scam and scheme going on in her head. Let's not forget Jonny's Corn Snake Lego and the little story she conducted about that as well to look like she rescued it.
This is a girl who can't appreciate what she has, will always want more, will always lie to look like a Disney hero, has killed her pets from neglect, makes fun of rape victims, and spends her time suffocating her significant other, as much as she neglects her designer animals who share the same household.
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Their relationship is super toxic.
I don't think they will last long.. it'll be either he'll get sick of her ultra clingy ways or just cheats on her while she fails to be with him everywhere.
Or shock everyone and get married while poisoning each other with their toxic ways forever.
Because it's a way to deflect any actual concerns or valid criticism.
It's easier to come up with excuses or sassy responses to criticism that doesn't actually put her on the spot than to address things that would show her inexperience and complete disregard for her animals. Not to mention that it also inflates her ego because her equally inexperienced stans will defend her and she knows it.
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So unique. Sage for not really being milk
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Jonny looks like old gregg
his sausage fingers and her sausage lips disturb me
I'm also seriously wondering what's wrong with her chin. Acne?
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She probably overfills each bowl, dump bugs in their cages, and give her kittens extra food to last. Probably why we never hear about some of them anymore because they probably died.
Or she brings it to her mom because she knows her mom can’t say no.
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Reasons for not hiring an editor
Anyone notice how Taylor will replay to someone and then make the same exact post with the same exact wording two hours later? She did it with the pitbull rant too
It’s like someone telling the exact same joke twice because they weren’t given enough congrats the first time since no one was listening
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Sure, she can do whatever she wants! (Though it sure doesn't seem like taking care of herself.) But she can't expect to have a youtube career left when she gets back, if she ever does.
Are you kidding me? Literally none of her videos share/carry over the same "effects" she is talking about. For each video she tries a bunch of new fonts/colors/transitions, she has no format to go from other than bad jumpcuts. It's just tacky, I've seen better slideshow presentations from 5th graders. >>516240
I think he is trying to signal a helicopter or something, maybe trying to blind astronauts too?
The most “personality” in her video is when she gives her pets a robotic voiceover to show what they’re thinking about what she’s saying or whatever. She rarely uses that though and it seems like something you could explain to someone in five minutes (like how Barry from Game Grumps interjects his own commentary however he wants)
Or better yet
have them watch some of your videos and I gauruntee your editing is so basic they’ll know what to do in a second.
No one is saying she shouldn't have time for herself, but when you go around making promises and saying "I have 3 videos ready for you guys" and "I swear I'll post them this week!" only to see you fucking off with your boyfriend to live the rockstar life, it comes off as dishonest and like you don't give a shit.
One could give plenty of excuses like chronic illnesses and depression, but things don't match up.
You're selectively depressed. When it comes to actual responsibilities you're fucking depressed and in "a rough patch" and also your many illnesses happen to flare up, but when it comes to having fun you're suddenly not so sick after all. If she had any ounce of integrity she would be honest and say shit like "hey guys I have some videos ready but I'm not feeling so well so I'll take a break".
She doesn't do that.
sage for wall of text but it's frustrating how her stans try to overlook shit ass behavior. that shit would not fly with an actual job where you have a boss to respond to and deadlines. If I was in her shoes I'd be holding onto this channel for dear life and save up money to get my shit together instead of pretending it'll last forever.
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She is no longer a "family friendly pet mom" on her Twitter bio. Could it be she's reading this thread? Hi Taylor
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And you could buy a snake or reptile from a rescue. Yet another do as I say not as I do
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Is this supposed to make us feel bad for her?
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She is apparently going to join the tour again in Denver?
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if it's a joke, she's been making it for a week.
She is getting called the fuck out on this lmao
Must be high since she's too lazy to delete rn
Some people are sensitive enough to gluten that they have true allergies and can't kiss someone who has been eating gluten without reacting.
Given that Blue Apron video and that TND probably feeds some of her animals gluten-containing foods that she handles I doubt she's this sensitive, but I could see her saying she is.
Gluten sensitivity is some made up bullshit. Learn how to use Google.
I'm sure Taylor would claim she has it though since she loves making up bullshit.
Celiac disease is not made up just because anon called it a sensitivity. Learn how to think.
Her mom also said that she has celiacs, so I don't doubt it. However, why would she care if he has gluten if she's not around?
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Anyone notice that she got her lips redone?
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Isn't the only animal that there is a possibility of her having rescued/adopted Nemo?
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Isn't that chick fil a? That's not exactly gluten free, I think they have a gluten free bun but it's still going to have some form of cross contamination…
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Essentially what they claim is gluten free at Chick Fil A but they can’t be 100% accurate due to shared cooking space, cross contamination and such.
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Adopting a 5 weeks old Kitty is illegal but of course it's not HER fault
Can someone please just post the proof? She'll delete it like she always does, but I'm just so sick of her denying what she did with Ghost.
It's disgusting enough she even DID what she did, but the fact that she lies about it constantly is just beyond the pale.
It's digusting of her to just lie frequently. If she really dis adopt Ghost, then Ghost would have come with documents that Tayler needs to sign and copies of said documents. If she really did adopt him, then where is his documents Taylor??
I got my dog from a foster and they had documents with all his shot dates and info about him which i had to sign.
Oh that section of the video was definitely about Taylor (or at the very least he was inspired after he was it.) I don’t think it’s being critical of her as a person (because I doubt Ian gives a shit) but he’s definitely pointing out how dumb people like Taylor who make vague videos about pitbulls are because they don’t really offer any facts and after pretty pro-bias rather than just balanced.
But yeah he’s not shading her personally I don’t think, if anything her stupid video remiinfed him about the well-meaning Pitbull activists who bring nothing to the discussion
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Did they try to find a foster mother cat for the kittens first? Also most places I've seen in situations like that do a foster home but give the foster parent the first chance to adopt the animal before anyone else (once the animal is actually adoptable). So if they just let her straight out adopt one kitten from what sounds like a litter of more than one, I'd like to see adoption papers proving it. (This is horribly worded I am sorry)
Depends on what rescues the particular Pet Smart or Petco works with. I work with a rescue that does day time events, but sometimes someone will go to the store we've got cats in and try and catch the after work crowd. We almost never bring kittens to the events, and certainly never underage ones. Kittens will always be adopted so a rescue's first priorities are usually more visibility for the oldest cats/longest in rescue.
She's an idiot. I hope more people step up and ask about those other animals we were all supposed to get to see.
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She can't name any adoption agency because she paid over half a grand from a shitty Craigslist breeder to take Ghost away from his mom early.
Image grabbed from the earlier thread where this was discussed.
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found an old pic of when she got Ghost.
not claiming Pets Alive.
in my area at least, Petcos/Petsmarts only work with one rescue group at a time. So there's only 1 rescue group that has their cats in the adoption center and can do events there. If any of you anons know the Petco location shes claiming, you can call and ask what rescue has their store and contact the rescue to back her in further.
Pet owners are constantly posting their pets like their kids. For her to have so many (and be a damn "pet youtuber") and barely post anything, esp after being away for a week is nuts.
It literally makes no sense why they would foster out individual kittens from a litter to loads of different people, raising kittens is no joke so it would make more sense for an EXPERIENCED foster parent to take the whole litter, seeing as they have to focus so much time on raising one, they might as well raise the rest of the litter too.
Even in the rare chance that this was the case, Taylor has already admitted that there was several kittens, so morally on her part why take a kitten away from its siblings anyway?
I just tweeted this at her! I'm sure she won't answer. But there's no way a rescue would have kittens that young at an event, and her story that they were separated from the mother because "the mother wasn't caring for them properly" is BS as well. Shelters would separate the litter from the mother if there were problems, but they wouldn't separate the litter that early because it can cause problems. Orphaned kittens need socialization with other kittens, preferably their own siblings.
Her lies are so bad. I hope her messes with these kittens haunts the rest of whatever is left of her youtube career.
Also, although she claims its a 'ragdoll mix' he looks like a purebred ragdoll to me. So chances are that if the mother ragdoll 'wasn't caring for them properly' surely the breeder (because lets face it it's a purebred kitten) wouldn't just give the kittens over to a shelter, surely they'd still try and raise the kittens themselves so as to not miss out on the profit?
(or sell them to a rich youtube white girl kek)
There's no reason not to, unless of course she doesn't have the papers. I adopted a cat from a Petsmart too, and you usually get a ton of papers. Even just stuff from the store saying "thanks for adopting, here's a bunch of Petsmart coupons."
If she adopted a kitten too young for full vaccines and getting fixed, she'd likely have to have signed a document promising to vaccinate and fix the kitten once old enough. Would be super easy to post.
Though, side note, those kittens are at least 10 weeks by now and should weigh the necessary 3lbs or whatever it is, has she gotten them fixed? Or vaccinated for that matter?
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Except all the dead ones
And the ones with their tail that fell off
And all her parasites that almost killed her axolotl and fish
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Why are stans so fucking stupid
Wtf @ her fans lol Ghost wasn't even a bottle kitten. 6 week old kittens eat regular wet/dry kitten food on their own, and Taylor specifically said she adopted.
The bottle kittens were the ones who were "found in a construction site" and "just happened to be given to her" as apparently seems to happen weekly in TND fantasy land. And she killed one of those kittens.
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Taylors pets @ Taylor after she implies she cares about their wellbeing.
Not defending the dead kitten or starved leaf insect, but cresties dropping tails and ich in fish are INCREDIBLY common. ALL fishkeepers deal with ich. And the issue her axolotl had is common, but she definitely should have caught it sooner. She admitted this, but still. It's easy to miss things when you have so fucking many animals. I'm not defending her, I'm just saying there's no point in acting like anyone who has an ich outbreak in their tank is a bad fishkeeper. She's a bad fishkeeper for many, MANY other reasons. And a bad pet owner in general for many more serious reasons. Like…>>517720
These. Ball pythons are incredibly shy animals, being at a party on someone's shoulders for that long would be absolutely miserable for one.>>517762
LOL…comon Tay, can't even lie well. She is such a dumb little brat. Johnny must love it.
The Petco that I work at has these display cages where rescues drop off adoptable cats to be kept there throughout the week, with a little cue card talking about the cat and with the shelters contact info. That would be my only guess as to how she got him in the middle of a week, but like people have pointed out, adopting a kitten that young is illegal, and I sincerely doubt
a company like Petco would take chances sponsoring a kitten when a customer who knows the law could easily complain or notify the proper people.
I’m sure it depends on the people running the Petco but my local is so strict on rules and policy that theres no way that shit would fly.
That's exactly how it is in the states.
ALL OF THAT ASIDE… You have to list any animals you have on an adoption application, their ages, if they're fixed or not, etcetc. Does no one realize that there is a 0% chance that a rescue that would let her "foster to adopt" a kitten would NEVER let her do that when she already has a kitten without shots that also isn't fixed ???? Unless she lies on this mysterious rescue groups application. They'd only let you have more than one unvaccinated kitten if they were from the same litter.
Even though her kitten probably did just die from 'fading kitten syndrome' as a result of being a foster, sometimes fading kitten syndrome can be caused by having infections - which unless she got a post-mortem done on the kitten to find out why it died (I dont think she did) both of her kittens, because they were unvaccinated, could've had some sort of infection?
Which makes it very irresponsible for her to have brought a new kitten in with a vaccinated kitten a few days after one had 'mysteriously' died
She just immediately deletes it and blocks you though.
Also learn to sage
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More Taylor shade
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Anyone take a look at these comments on her ig ok this pic? There's a thread of over 100 with people calling her out for not making videos and Jonny for being a rapist "fake teeth motherfucker."
And of course the "leave taylor alones!"
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I'll end here with my favorite. Fake teeth motherfucker!
Crazy how many people believe her lies though. She JUST posted they got new laptops for Valentine's day but they're like "she said everything is broken! And she's sick and deserves fun!"
hahah! Im dying. I love that Jonny's best retort is "look at your instagram bio"
Bye, fake teeth motherfucker
Jonny and Taylor are both stuck at a mental age of 13.
Is it just me or does it seem like she has less fans defending her every move these days? Definitely too many, but I feel like her stan numbers are dwindling.
If you read about narcissism, that's exactly what it is. The inner child that's stunted and never grows up and adult who can't function emotionally. A lot of narcissists are raging addicts and abusive…hello Jonny Craig. People associate the negative attributes to the addiction but the addiction just amplifies already shitty behavior.
And don't get those screenshots wrong. There were over 300 comments on the post and this was just a snippet of a thread. Still plenty of stans, but these few commenters were pretty loud! There were a few other "still no video?" comments but same stan replies to those.
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She did post this tweet last night, so both of you might be on to something
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This bitch take ages to edit.
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Suggestions include Taylor, Cheese, "Nemo", and a snake that matches Taylor's
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She honestly thinks she is a saint, I stg. She is completely serious in comparing herself to an educated & experienced
conversationalist/zookeeper. I actually can't believe how narcissistic she is, it's a whole new level.
Like, a ton
of kids watched animal shows growing up, Taylor?? You aren't special, fuck right off!
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About her tattoo
Lol what her excuse for keep buying weird morph's? I think reptiles are threat way worse than puppy mills, or she doesnt remember she bought a snake about to die because the owner never give a shit about it?
There isnt any difference between puppy mills and mass breeders of reptiles tbh, nobody cant take care of that many animals.
And abandoned it. And then years later abandon the other 2 you got.
Taylor has abandoned every dog she has owned.
After all this year she just cant understand she is keeping the cycle going
Buys sick animal- Owners breed more animals with that money- animals are neglect- Start over.
Maybe instead of sending her stans against people calling her out she should send them to that kind of people who abuse of animals for money. But that will never happen because Taylor is stupid.
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a Taylor clone??
What's up with talons, hand on face, and big unnatural lips? Do they want to look like a witch with their reptiles??
For the most part, that girl actually seems to know what she’s doing, and properly houses and researchs pets
If it is unrelated to TND, go to the GENERAL PET TUBERS THREAD stop spamming this one
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After reading through a lot of these comments, it's easy to see how she put the focus on depression and let's all the emos stan for her instead of replying. Because now they're not defending HER, they're defending depression and mental illness. But the kids are tired of no videos and false promises.
I bet the kids who is always defending Taylor has never had pets and have no idea how to take care of em. they just know Taylor with Jonny and their animals are cool.
Like wow! She looks like Kylie, has a punkrock boyfriend who she changed for the better, and have rare cool looking reptiles?! Goooallss!! <3333 /sarcasm
in her videos, she makes cheese a funny character by doing a voice over. i did find it silly and funny when she was starting her channel so it makes sense for her to use cheese as part of her brand.>>519009
i thought this was taylor before opening the thumbnail lmao.
Outdated, but… Basic? Really? She definitely pretends a lot of them are harder work than they are (Gasp! A chilean rose! So scary!) but marine fish (bar the clowns), uroplatus, and you could argue even the Halloween crab and the amphibs can be pretty damn demanding.
I mean, it's all the more reason as why she shouldn't have these animals in the first place, but to call it a very very basic collection makes every pet seem basic mate. She goes well over her head in what she's capable of.
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Hey guys I notice this little girl is always defending Taylor
Can we give her some love and report her Twitter account for the lols?(Not your personal army)
First of all, why is Taylor trying to get her teen/tween fans to get a tattoo of a fish–that hasn't grown in a long time–so they can regret it when they turn 30?
Second of all, why is she trying to turn her fish into some sort of cult?
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Jonny’s ex Amanda posted this on twitter
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no wonder she got her hair and nails done. can't wait for him to start showing his true face. my glass is ready for all the milk to pour.
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This stupid ass girl is going to regret this so much. Can't believe Taylor is condoning this.
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This girl really did it. lol bet she's going to regret it in a couple of years
You're probably not off the mark considering how many comments she gets begging her to get certain animals. It does seem like a lot of them are basically living vicariously through her. That would explain the obsession with defending her as well. Any criticism of her and her life probably feels personal.>>519067
I understand branding. I'm saying that the fish is ugly and I don't understand why that fish in particular caught on, even with the voice over. I can't see why people are so obsessed that they're willing to put his likeness in permanent ink on their bodies. >>519224
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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this was below the original tweet she posted. how hypocritical of taytay.
I mean, you being triggered
over my comment makes it seem like you’re overacting but okay…..
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Why is this bitch so smug about the fact we can’t 100 percent price she got her cat on CL but was totally forthcoming about that girl putting an ad on CL for her cornsnake before magically finding our snake expert by chance in a pet shop?
She learned how to lie about a CL aquire based on the kitten. In other words, she saw what happened with the kitten…that we know what she did. So, her lil brain said "okay, they are totally going to know this snake was on CL so I gotta come up with some BS to explain why it was on CL without saying that that's where I got it."
She didn't know/think to cover her tracks with the kitten because it hadn't happened before.
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"even though I did it once"
She told her mom she didn't say they were shopping, but that is EXACTLY what she said. Is it her reading comprehension that is that terrible or just her perception of reality?
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Something interesting is that (like a lot of YouTubers) Tyler implied his PC pet vids are still being demonitized. Someone said early in the thread Taylor makes most her money from her merch but I don’t really think that’s true. If she’s such a narcissist that she retweets every bit of praise her fans give her, I’m sure dozens of them would also post photos of the merch they got, and she’d retweet them as sort of promo. Also I don’t really know how much money that company takes out of sales before she gets her cut.
So I assume she either has a lot saved or should turn her shit around quick before it gets left in the dust.
No one is wishing abuse on her, it’s just she’s blind to seeing Jonny for the way he is. Someone like him is very hard to change, even if he does, it won’t be right away in a brand new relationship. He’s gonna to show some of his colors. As for TND, she’s pretty abusive in some ways too and she was warned so many times about what he did and what he can do, so if she does get abused in some way (hopefully not) she knew it was coming..
toxic relationship will either just end or just pour drama nonstop.
So she is definitely on here, actively reading this thread?
Maybe that explains why the influx of bad selfies has stopped, and why she hasn't flaunted her hair/nails. Not that she would bother to change from criticism, or than her stans would care, for that matter.
Nah, the way her narcissistic mind works, she'll just see it as jealous haters attacking her for no reason and use it to feed into her helpless victim mentality where nothing is her fault and everyone who criticizes her is mean.
She'll focus on the petty crap about her lips and shit to avoid letting the real shit about Johnny and her animal care sink in. Because admitting that she's in the lovebomb/honeymoon phase of an abusive relationship and that she uses acquiring animals to fill an emotional void and that maybe she should leave Johnny and spend some time SINGLE and in therapy, take a realistic look at her animals and consider rehoming some she got for the wrong reasons so she can focus on the ones she actually cares about, mend her relationship with her real family, get work done and figure out a long term plan for her education/career…….
…but that would take some serious insight and introspection, which we know she doesn't have. It's sad, because when you just write it out like that, what she needs to do is really very simple. If she were to do those things she could have an AMAZING life. She could get a real education in an animal related field and start using her money and reach to actually make a difference.
It is so, so frustrating to watch her self destruct like this and take her family and pets with her.
"Mama Dean" is such an attention whore herself. She knew exactly what people were going to think with that marriage tweet.
She's all "boohoo lost followers because i'm boring now"
Not necessarily. The older brother seems stable and normal.
Really just seems as though it’s taylor, and I can’t blame her mom for acting the way she does considering she’s gotta be stressed about tanner in general, and Taylor acting the way she does probably pushed her over the edge
L2sage you fucking faggot.
So tired of all the non-saged posts. Where the fuck are the mods?(calm down)
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Shade at Taylor and Jonny ?
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Maybe do your research next time
Why is everyone in this thread always talking as if it was a fact that TND killed the kitten? I know I know, there are reasons to hate her (like making fun of jonny's victims) but this one is just a conspiracy. For all we know it might have actually been sick and she really tried hard but was unable to rescue it. Same for the kitten where ppl conspire that she got it off craigslist although we don't know it 100% ..and even the picture of the kittens that was on craigslist didn't have that exact same kitten she has on it, only kinda similar looking ones, so..??>>519230
Honestly I think that fish is oddly adorable, he looks like he could be straight outta an anime.
Yeah anon, but no. I'm actually an anon who's on this board regularly and reads this thread (among others) because I despise Jonny but I don't have that big of an issue with Taylor is all. I just think people tend to exaggerate because they are blinded by the hate for her.
This is actually an issue in all threads. People will nitpick and conspire about people they hate and it kind of distracts from the real issues and things they should actually be called out for.
Why didn't you post that comment when the discussion was.. actually happening then? >and she really tried hard but was unable to rescue it> ..and even the picture of the kittens that was on craigslist didn't have that exact same kitten she has on it, only kinda similar looking ones, so..??
You are very clearly a white knight
Did someone do some cow-tipping? I feel like someone might've tipped the cow from the new white knights popping up/taylor discussing "anonymous threads"
Ok, delusional. So you're saying that Taylor just happened to stumble across Ghost at in some legitimate adoption scenario even though
- purebred ragdolls kittens are uncommon enough to command a very high price. The chance you're going to stumble across one at an adoption event rather than have the foster or breeder decide to keep it themselves or sell it for hundreds of dollars is practically nil.
- Ghost was the EXACT same age as the CL cat.
- Ghost was acquired within DAYS of the CL ad going up.
- Ghost's backyard breeder is from the same area as Taylor.
- It's common for CL purchases to take place in parking lots and there are pics of Ghost in the Denny's parking lot
- Taylor has a documented history of trying to pass CL purchases off as adoptions while still pretending she NEVER said she was a proponent of "adopt don't shop".
- Anyone who pays attention realizes Taylor is a habitual liar who actively supports a rapist. Sure, she deletes a metric fuckton of tweets that make this more obvious, but it's still crystal clear to anyone who bothers to look.
I mean, you're welcome to believe whatever the hell you want. You're also welcome to fall for every scam and con you come across. Maybe you'd like to purchase a 30 day supply of pink hair and nail vitamins from GlamLifeGuru for $40? (Well, more like $50 with shipping. $65-$100+ if you live in another country.). Normally I wouldn't leap from A to B like this, but the fact that you're skeptical about something SO fucking obvious leads me to believe you're the type to consider buying magic beans from snake oil salesmen.
And no, "everyone" doesn't talk like it's a fact that T killed the kitten. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's the same person popping in to say it every time. It's always the same sort of angry "she deserves her crappy life because she killed the kitten" deal.
>>519811>Why didn't you post that comment when the discussion was.. actually happening then?
I'm not active on here that much (mostly lurking)& I am often late to some topics and I apologize. >>519812>>519816
Ok I actually apologize for being ignorant.. I didn't know there were that many things pointing towards it actually being the kitten from CL. I did read this thread and thought I was caught up but apparently I must have missed some thing while the older TND thread was on autosage. Anyway, in the end I just asked why ppl tread these things as fact, and I got my answer so it's all cool.
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Oh no I forgot to sage in 1 of my 30 posts. What a faggot I must be.
Now, back to Taylor. Does anyone else find it hilarious on her new vegan diet posts shes talking about other people's pets not living their best life. Like, hello? This is exactly what you're doing to your pets?
I have a hard time believing that a purebred doberman with a very rare and highly sought after coat color (dilute blue) was simply abandoned by the side of the road. A pet quality dilute blue dobe (i.e. a dobe that still isn't up to snuff to win any shows and wouldn't be good for breeding) still fetches nearly 2 grand despite the coat color being known to lead to skin related issues. It's very likely not a mix, even the DNA test showed that it was Doberman with small traits of rottie (it's very possible for DNA tests to pick up strands of proteins that other breeds share, so just having trace amounts of one other breed is a pretty sure conclusion that the dog is 100% pure bred).I have a hard time believing that someone would dumb a dog worth $1500 with a litter of puppies that at worst would sell for half a grand each. I have no doubt that the breeder was breeding dogs poorly and may have neglected the dogs though.>>517259
Someone should contact that Petco too, Petco can't even have cats and dogs that young in their facility (no vaccines), and it's really against their policy to adopt out animals that young since it is illegal across the country. I bet Petco would like to hear about this so they can stop doing business with whatever hack of a rescue organization is putting everyone's animals at risk including their own. That is, assuming it even happened. Also, didn't Taylor work at a Petco/Petsmart? Shouldn't she already know about this? Pro-tip, if anyone actually does want to follow-up; When doing adoptions on the site, petco/petsmart requires a copy of the adoption information which would include her name and such, so if the store does actually want to look into it, they will have her name on file with the animal she adopted. Petco won't take underage adoptions lightly if someone claims an agency they work with sold them a kitten too young, especially if it later died.
t. animal shelter employee who works with the pet stores for adoption events.>>517466
The absolute youngest age you can buy/sell/adopt a cat or dog is 6 weeks old in the United States. It's one thing if you're doing shady business out of your own home, but you can NOT get away with that at a big chain pet store like Petco. Petco requires copies of every adoption done on their site, and requires every cat and dog be up to date on at least their distemper vaccines, which they can't even get at 5 weeks old. First vaccines start at 6 weeks old. There's no way this was done legally in a Petco, is what I'm getting at.>>517489
Start a TaylorNicoleDean hastag, but honestly I'd be worried about all these non-arguments shitting up the actual proof that she's a bad animal caretaker, and make the whole thing look like salty trolls.>>517475
Tbf some adoptions will go pretty late at night. Of course, not past store hours.>>517664
Petcos and petsmarts can and do work with multiple rescues and shelters and sometimes have different adoption events from different rescues/shelters on the same day and time, so this may be trickier than originally planned. Honestly though, that Petco will have the adoption records, just say that someone under the name Taylor Nicole Dean is claiming to have bought an underage kitten from an adoption even there that later died, ask if it's true because if it is you'll no longer be supporting them (that last lie was more just to get a straight answer instead of beating around the bush, if y'all have a better idea by all means use that). Now you will have a big organization on her ass too.>>517685
To adopt, yeah she would need adoption papers, that's what she would use to legally prove where she got the animal from if she ever needed it (to prove ownership mostly). However I can see if she misplaced it. I have no clue where my adoption papers are.>>517688
She has a boy and a girl cat right? If she waits 'until they are mature' to get fixed, she'll end up getting kittens. Cats can mate and get pregnant as early as 4 months old.>>517762
TBF some do have adoptions during the week, it depends on the store>>517799
No, because Petco isn't some small-town irresponsible local pet store. They have to uphold standards to not get sued or break laws. If anything happened, it managed to happen without Petco's knowledge>>517938
yeah Nemo is bony but his tummy was bulging like fuck in some pics. TBH at 5 weeks, not much should be able to kill a kitten, especially worms (virtually all kittens have worms). They have gotten past the first 3.5 weeks which are the hardest, most fragile part of their life. I've fostered my fair share of kittens which includes a fuck ton of newborns that didn't make it, but I have never had a kitten over 4 weeks die on me unless they had a medical issue where they had to be put to sleep like FIP or FeLV. It is possible that something inside just went awry, it's just not common that late into life. I wouldn't even be upset if her own mistakes killed newborn kittens; you can feed a kitten formula that's a wee bit too cold and kill it, they are just very fragile. I'm just having a hard time believing this 5 week old kitten succumbed to fading kitten syndrome.>>518103
As someone who fosters, this pisses me off immensely. A foster should know better than to do what Taylor does. A foster should at least know the legal age of adoption and to quarantine. >>518963
Hypocritical is thinking one way while doing the opposite. It's not the same as previously believing something, then changing over time. Stop trying to make it seem like you being hypocritical is being an adult.
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Taylor's new hair, love that she can post videos of her posing with new hair but cant be bothered to take pictures of her (probably dead) animals to show us that they're okay.
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From far away if you don’t focus on them that much her lips look totally fine
But when you close up on them jesus
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Baboon butt lips.>>519940
All i’m Getting from this picture is her with daddy issues. I bet Jonny was like “…easy money” when she started dming him>>519897
Does she even have pets anymore?
Not that her mom is the most with it either, but I feel like her mom might have said something if Kida wasn't adopted? Though I'd bet her mom/the family actually adopted Kida, not Taylor, maybe that's another reason Taylor left her behind. Some shelters won't let animals be transferred from the person who legally adopted them.
Also your kitten info is good, but a few things: Taylor claims she just got the first two kittens (Nemo and the female) from some lady she met at Petco who had found them in a construction site, and I think they were around 3 weeks then. The female is the one that died, so she now has two males. Thankfully she shouldn't end up with kittens unless she lets them roam or something stupid like that, but she needs to get them vaccinated ASAP too. Ghost is the CL kitten she claims she "adopted" or now claims she fostered from a Petco adoption event. So she didn't get any directly from Petco's adoption center, but both times were on Petco property, so Petco would care about the adoption event (you know, if it ever happened) but I'm not sure what they care about or can do if someone just happened to give TND the first kittens on site. (Which I strongly doubt is how she got those kittens at this point, but who knows.)
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Seems like someone did tip the cow. Booooo.
Yeah sorry I should have been clearer I guess, I didn't mean she actually got them on Petco property, but that that was her story both times.
I've been wondering if JC will expose her for all her craigslist pets and other lies when they break up and he decides he wants revenge for her inevitable "I was tricked! give me sympathy" video/posts when that happens.
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On the ig photo of her blonde. "Wtf is a stan" 😂
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"Currently editing" lol
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ikr? Unless these videos end up being like short films there's absolutely no way it would take that long, even with depression.
If she had edited for 10 minutes every single time she posted (then deleted) on social media that she was editing they would have been done ages ago. It's all laziness and lies. IT'S LIESINESS.
>sage even though i made up a great new word to describe TND
'I'm so insecure and hate looking at myself'
Posts photos of self half naked.
Exactly this. It's not really exaggeration to say she killed it when she didn't seek the best treatment available. Aka finding another experienced fosterer, especially one that has a nursing mother for the kittens. The equivalent is taking an injured dog from the streets and trying to DIY vet care. She absolutely is responsible for that kittens death.
As an aside I truly believe she got the first two kittens the exact same way she got Ghost. She bought them from some shady craigslist or other deal.
Sage for speculation
It could be argued that she’s so insecure that’s why she does all this attention grabbing shit. She wants people to keep telling her how hot she is, that and how she was constantly dating someone new every other week since she was a teenager.
I’d feel bad but at this point teenagers grow out of it and she’s gotten so much validation in her looks and dateability that she’s turned into a bitch. But she’ll keep milking that inmocence thing because that’s relatable
Yeah her whole “we just magically found these kittens in a wall” thing was all really convenient (same be said for meeting the CL snake’s owner in a pet store and magically overhearing that she’s trying to rehome it)
The kittens especially, I don’t buy that in a city as big as SA in a busy parking lot no one else heard a kitten crying and reported it to a rescue before she got there. She probably waltzed into a rescue, made up some story about how she was qualified to take care of it, asked about where they found the kitten and inserted herself in the rescue story
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oh my god there's no way she would correctly feed live
live is a last resort anyway why is she jumping straight to it?
Doesn't this mean that she will have to have a constant supply of live food for the snake?
I have no clue how that works but housing rodents compared to crickets sounds far harder…?
Number of reasons;
Snake not hungry
-Danger of rat/mouse gnawing on snake for both food and out of fear.
-Having to house an animal now that your snake isn't interested in.
-Having to watch the feeding (you should not leave a snake alone with living prey), this can take hours if the snake isn't hungry or is shy.
-Danger of not striking well and leaving the rat or mouses front end to gnaw into the snake while it tries to escape.
-Live animals can carry parasites that freezing is able to kill off, the snake then ingests these.
-Snakes often get hooked on live feeding, making FT hard to go back to.
-Finding a quality supply of live feeders can be hard if not bred at home.
Rat mouse POV
-Cruel to the rat / mouse to put them in an unnatural environment where they have no chance of escape. This isn't a nature pred/prey scenario. Rat/Mouse can be very stressed before death due to smell, poor handling and missed strikes alone.
-Poor breeding and handling at pet stores which often have less space to house feeder animals than even large scale feeder operations. Animals arrive at the snake stressed and often sick (URI's especially). >>520428
Yes. But no it doesn't mean she has to breed them herself. Rats and mice are much harder to take care of compared to even some of her other animals. Rats in particular are intelligent animals that (as pets) can not be kept singularly, need extensive time out of their cage (and interaction) to avoid neurotic behaviours, and are very prone to illness including URI's and mammary tumours.
She's more likely to buy live from a store that sells… however as mentioned above, if the snake refuses food, she will now have to look after a live animal… Not to mention many stores will not sell live animals as feeders and those that do are often shady. It is hard to find a regular good supply of live feeders which is why most reptile keepers that do want to feed fresh (pre killed) do so by keeping their own mice/rats.
tl;dr: Lots of reasons why live is a bad idea and I'm probably forgetting some.
live is genuinely a last resort.
firstly, most people including me hold the opinion that feeding captive snakes live is unethical unless absolutely necessary
it's a false environment in which the rodent has no chance to escape the situation
secondly yes there is a danger for the snake as the rat or mouse will gnaw on them to escape or if they get hungry
this post just shows she hasn't done enough research. it's understandable to panic over your first snakes (or first 9+ snakes in her case lol) refusing food but if she had any knowledge or experience she'd know not only are ball pythons known to be fussy feeders but how snakes can go months without a meal and not lose any weight. I wouldn't be surprised if she hasn't ever weighed her snakes.
it seriously baffles me she jumped the gun so much
Wait, I don't know which one Tate is, how long has she had this one? For the two weeks she says it is having no interest in frozen?
1. She should know if it was on frozen/thawed or live from the breeder and she could have gotten one that was already eating frozen
2. It could be stressed if this is only week two of her getting it
3. It's only been two weeks of trying and there are other methods to try to get them to eat it
4. "hunger strike" because of wrong husbandry
It's a shame this girl has so many snakes. This is pretty basic easily googled info. Now all of her fans who got snakes because of her are learning from her dumb ways…
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I BET YOU ALL SHE WILL TALK ABOUT HER HAIR BECAUSE SHE CAN AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON SHE REFILMED IT!!!!
Also wtf is wrong with her lips, gurl get them fixed omg
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Of course she didn't! And this is an excuse to "edit" for another month.
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Manhandling her snake again
Maybe this is how she ends up 'rescuing' rats. I can see it now. She follows the advice of her peers and switch to a rat, try feeding live, doesn't work, she runs out to Denny's to find a rat in the parking lot to rescue. Now she can post sub par rat care videos. Then she can be the poster child for Women's Rights to Own Rats>>520528
I honestly never thought of that, now any fan who has had a snake not eat for 2 weeks is going to think they should switch to live. Bummer>>520601
I figured the reason she got a ragdoll is because ragdolls are well known for going limp or 'ragdolling' when being held, therefore making for a good picture. Seems like that BYB cat doesn't have the same traits though
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But I thought you had professional people watching them that you paid for?? Hmm..
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Surprise, that’s what happens when you go from 0 to 10(?) snakes in one year and have little to no experience.
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New video lmao amazing how she filmed and edited this in one day… probs only bc she has new hair
samefagging but some notes & her hair is beyond fried and nasty and her extensions are ratty;
queue 2 minutes of rambling about herself
- "im a perfectionist is my biggest flaw" clip to her fish tank being filthy
- filmed 3 videos but hates them
- "juggling my illnesses with traveling, animals and living on my own"
- "bunch of video ideas!" "no intention to quit youtube!"
- wanted to own (satanic leaf geckos) forever but felt like she wasnt qualified to. but theyre so cool and edgy looking!
- 3:40-5:30 her setting up the tank nothing but text no voice over (i know nothing about these guys so if any experts want to chime in as to if she did anything wrong feel free)
- "i didnt know you couldnt handle them! he jumped in my hand so then i took a picture of it!"
"i had some people who were very concerned about the fact that i was handling them! (hey tay)"
"i've learned from that im never going to do it again!"
- "i dont like making educational videos i want them to be fun"
>>520791>I'M A REALLY BIG PERFECTIONIST>EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS AREN'T FUN SO I DELETED THE THREE YOU WERE WAITING ON (FUCK YOU)
i don't get it how is being fun her reason for not being a perfectionist, and how the fuck is this video any more "fun"? she just whined. she just whined about her own fans
. would be cool if she explained how she abandoned all of her pets and was able to leave something so important to her emotionally while doing something as silly as showing up on tour to get plastered. why didn't she make a tour vlog~ or something where she proves how she checks in on her pets if (i really hope) someone is taking care of them?
you can't go out and party and claim disability due to depression. that's not how that works and she's giving people with real mental health issues an even worse name.
I had an old coworker who would come in with completely different hair colors every couple months. She said she changed her hair color "every time she felt mentally unstable"…can't help but feel like that's Taylors case because suddenly she's not crying when looking at herself to edit. I'd cry if my upper lip was shaped like a lumpy turtle beak but apparently new hair fixes that?
Sage for blog post.
Cue the whole "I'm weird and different for talking to my fish lolol"
It gets so old so fast,
it's not 2010 anymore Tay.
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Truly bugs me that this is the first video that pops up under her video..
(Sage for off topic nip picking)
No, I think only the intro/ explanation was new. The set up shots obviously weren't new and we don't know about the closeups.>>520842
I skipped some parts of the video but I don't think she said anything.
god, she's getting a mild lisp from those baboon lips.
if you compare her "how to take care of.." videos from other youtubers that are actually dedicated with caring for a specific type of animal, her videos are basically 3 mins of a summarize versions of lazy google search or answers from a typical petco employee (oh wait, she was one) and the rest is about herself.
If the cat wanted to get away, it would've looked much more distressed.
I don't like her either, and there's some really good points made on this website about her. But when you have to reach as far as insulting the way she looks? That's super low.
Maybe it's just me that cares about the way her animals are treated, and especially how the public sees this and interprets it for the care of their own animals. Seeing some people going as far as insulting how her hair looks is petty af.
No one is insulting her looks for the shit of it, dude. We pick apart her looks because of how obviously starved for attention she is by smacking on heavy makeup and wearing skimpy clothes pretty much daily (she posted a photo of herself naked and another in lingerie for fucks sake) so it’s obvious she thinks she’s hot shit. the more vain you are, the more people are going to focus on your flaws to spite you.
Also it goes without saying those ridiculous claws of hers aren’t safe for handling a majority of her animals but she doesn’t give a shit
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They are starting to take on the shape of a Kappa or a turtle with clown lipstick on.
I never said you had to call her attractive? Lmao.
I don't find her attractive but I'm not going to tear apart every visible attribute on someone for the sake of talking shit online.
I can understand talking about her bad lip injections and skimpy clothing for views but some of the other stuff is just really reaching for milk imo
What the fuck is up with her eyebrows?
They're not even at all, and why is the arch halfway up her forehead??
Her lips just look dead at this point too, I mean they hardly even move when she speaks, gross.
Point to specific examples of us pointing to her appearance unnecessarily because I’ve got zero idea what you’re talking about
She posts a photo where she clearly thinks she’s hot and we pick it apart, that’s it. There’s no “irrelevant” or “pointless” topic as long as the subject is TND.
We go through this shit every other week, how many times do we have to point that out for you people to get it?
I don't know why you're referring to me as "you people" considering I'm not a fan and I don't defend her or her actions in any way. I think a lot of the things she's doing with animals is absolute shit and she needs to stop buying new animals because it's just way too much at this point and it's becoming clear that she doesn't know when to stop.
Example: "She used to be so hot." and "she looked better as a brunette"
Basically, I just doesn't feel like it adds anything but that's just my opinion. It's pretty clear she's unstable regardless, without the mention of her changing her hair color.
lol that photo is spot on. >>520941
exactly, someone finally put it in words! What annoyed me the most is that the video was titled for her Geckos, yet she just talked about them briefly about basic facts that you can search up easily but in reality it's not so simple. she did it in such a hurry that it seemed like she didn't care about her geckos because she just wanted to talk about herself and her problems.
she still has that petco employee mentality that when you ask her how to properly care for this type of pet, she just says "need a tank, food, water, and also humidity. After that, they're good on their own."
sage for blogging..i think and rant because ugh!
I mean “you people” is in “people on this forum.” Every other week someone comes in here whining about how what we’re talking about isn’t important or “let’s get back to the real
drama” when everything on this thread is equally as stupid and important. 90% is speculation and people bitching about some girl we don’t like. This isn’t some holy bastion on integrity for white knights to come in and say we’re being big meanies for calling some narcissist weird looking
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Why would someone get a pit bull from watching her video???
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Had to pause to mute something else and realized the face she was pulling looked like an old I Love Lucy episode.
tbh with the whole "I dont want to upload consistent educational pet videos because thats just boring" she's shitting on pretty much every other pet youtuber, especially emzotic who, maybe if you're a 10 year old, her videos are 'fun' but also educational, because she doesn't talk about herself for 2 minutes and packs in quite a bit of information
Also theres shit all over the screen at 8:13, if she was doing a planted tank anyway why didn't she just make the whole thing bioactive? it would save her a lot of time having to clean if she did it for most of her animals
Just made me think it was aimed specifically at Emzotic after all the subtle shade she threw Taylor's way about her designer snakes and rescued reptiles.
As far as her not making it bioactive… that's because making it bioactive takes time… like a tank to cycle. She impulse buys animals lol.. she hasn't got time for making appropriate setups. Some plastic sharpass plants will do.
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She’s apologizing for posting too much about her cats, when in reality she only posts a cat picture for every four or five posts about herself. Yeah I’m just gonna say that’s proof the animals were never planned on being the focus of her channel
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Fucking hell I will shoot myself if it's a tegu, caiman, or any sort of big lizard.
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The amount of people hoping it's a tegu (which need an 8x4x4 enclosure and daily handling. Something taylor will probably not do) or a retic or Burmese python really concerns me. It's as if her fans don't realize the commitment and effort these animals need.
Imagine the outrage if someone replied actually agreeing with her, i.e. "Yeah, you're right, your cats matter much more than you ever will."
Taylor & stans would loose their shit lol
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Couldn’t get clear screenshots but these were on her Instagram story.
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I’m sure there is tay… I’m sure there is
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In Taylor's newest video she says the gecko jumped on her thumb and that's why she went ahead and took the picture…but the Instagram caption for the picture says this…which is it TayTay???
Suddenly expert when she gets called out
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She really can’t keep her story straight.
Why the fuck would someone you’re PAYING
to take care of your animals “not be able to make it” on certain days and why would you not hire someone who is gautinteed to show up every day?
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clearer image of the lizard
looks like a juvi monitor but anyone know what one?
other part of the snake looks like a neonate retic
maybe she got one of (or both of, wouldn't be surprised) those..?
saged for tinfoiling
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Made me laugh
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Tweets from a fan who I presume was at the concert the other night. When did Taylor go home again?
She took a picture with ghost and had her bedroom as the background in her new video…
Her hair was obviously not blonde when she was with Jonny so it has to be someone else or she went home for like 12 hours only
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The concert they’re talking about was on the 3rd, and Taylor got her hair done on the 3rd, just earlier in the day.
why even bother having animals when you have a junkie boyfriend you’d rather spend all your time with?
i can’t wait for them to break up, what would she even do with herself??
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This is interesting.
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Because Taylor NEVER lies about dumb things! …
She could have easily said “I was at a restaurant with a full service bar” don’t know why she has to go into absolutely dumb levels of detail once people call her out or question her.
Oh wait, that’s what liars do to overcompensate.
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was going through the hashtags to find any sign of blonde taylor at the concerts, found this instead. well pack it up guys, i guess jonny craig is a saint after all.