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Recent:>Was in the hospital for a month for unknown reasons>Has been released and been posting more, but still not opening up about the reason for the hospitalization>posted a video where she more or less confirms it was because of a eating disorder
General Info:> Venus youtube celeb since she was 11/12 years old > Has been on various tv shows, travelled country to country by her mother speaking fuck knows how many languages> Never went to school/was homeschooled> Her mother Margret basically used Venus for $$$ > Venus escaped her crazy money sponging controlling mother and leapt into the hands of her visa cough husband Manaki > Currently resides in Tokyo now living life and still hiding from her mother who continues to try stalking/harassing Veenos! > Venus is still social awkward but may gradually be making friends alas Taylor R
Old thread >>286133
>>522226>she basically admits she has an eating disorder
When? It sounds more like the surgery was unrelated and the bloating just made her panic. She even explicitly says that she doesn't have an ED.
She definitely has severe body issues and disordered eating though and admitted to restricting her food, which is unsurprising considering her stage mom made her diet as a young girl so she'd look good in pedobait videos.
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Probably during that time when she was modelling for bodyline, pic related. She got a bit heavier after that I think, but looking at those pictures now it seems insane that people would call her chubby lmao>>522266
Japan is generally terrible when it comes to mental health care, which she definitely needs. Fixing BDD or an ED by yourself is hard, especially in an environment where constantly wanting to be thinner even if you're already slim is basically normal.
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I always think of these images when I think of how the Japanese are about weight. I don't think any adverts we have in the west are as bad as this when it comes to losing weight. I'm sure there are ana-chans who would call the before pics fat but they seem fairly normal.
no, she was in the hospital for gastroparesis and a prolapsed stomach. she says that several times throughout the video. she did say her doctor theorized her post-surgery edema was from being malnourished, but denies its from an eating disorder.
also how fucked up is it that Marge made her 11 year old self pull up her shirt after eating than accused her of being pregnant?? And said that "mexican people are fat and short because they eat too much corn" what a batty old loon.
I'm living in japan too and never noticed that.
but once I've met a guy who said he only eats a pudding a day or he is becoming fat
You do know, that one very big symptom/thing of having an eating disorder, is that you try your hardest to claim you don't have one? She knows she has a problem, but she is just in denial of the correct diagnosis or about what she should do about it.>>523015
This, tbh. And I don't even think it should really matter if she thinks she has this or that at this point, it's just very good that she knows that she has a problem and that she is speaking about it and trying to get better. Too bad Japan is an awful country to be mentally ill
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Venus got control of her SM accounts back from marge. With a lawyer.
marge must be pissed.
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Probably a dumb question, but was she wearing a wig in her latest video with Manaki or was it just extensions? I was surprised at how full and healthy her hair looked, then I saw this video >>522226
If it's a wig, wow. I want it.
Chill pill non
Clearly she has disordered eating, which is not the same as an eating disorder (but on the right track). And she's in Japan; their body standards are fucking crazy and their mental health care is lacking. I'm sure if she were elsewhere, the US for example, they would have slapped an AN or OSFED label on her, but because she also had gastroptosis, they could have blamed the weight loss entirely on that.
It's hard to admit to having problems like that; I am actually quite happy she finally decided to address this issue with her fans and own up to those weird black and white ana-test videos
That's a wig, it's been in her previous videos but it's clearly a wig. It's thicker and less oily than her real hair. >>522226
This is her real hair. Oily and thin. If that's a wig then that's a failure of a wig.
her greasy hair in that video >>522226triggers
me. I just want to scream WASH YOUR DAMN HAIR
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It was a joke and Manaki was acting according to Venus. People don’t get their brand of humor (again according to Venus, on instagram.)
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She’s panicking about gaining what little weight she has gained. When she still looks like this >>531694
It sounds like she’s had some counseling on how to deal with this (writing it down and relying more on logic rather than feelings.) She still has a long way to go though. I really hope she’s still getting ongoing therapy cause she obviously needs it.
manaki is not an innocent child, i don't know why people think that.
also, new video, in response to the comments
however he is so damn awkward
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He is not ugly. He’s an average/slightly cute Asian guy.
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I wonder what her "very personal" video will be?
>>537413>crying instead of going to a therapist
Easier said than done. Don’t forget she lives in Japan where mental health treatment is woefully lacking. Therapists are rare and good therapists even rarer.
She’s in one of the worst countries possible when it comes to mental health support/treatment.
Maybe it’ll help her feel a little bit better for awhile? Talking about what you’re feeling is supposed to help, that’s what talk therapy is all about. She has no one to talk to so I guess she’s using Youtube to vent.
It wouldn’t be my choice but sharing your feelings on SM seems to work for some people, especially young people like Venus who grew up on SM.
She seriously needs an adult in her life right now, not some 20 something dude she's married to.
I hope no one is going to stalk her dad down by the name she didn't even block out… god damn. I understand her fans are concerned but god damn, this is gonna turn into one big Marina Joyce repeat or some shit.
(I'm angry, I'm sorry)
some of y'all are brutal goddamn.>>545084
I don't know if making this video public was a good idea, but i feel so sorry for her. Her mother wrecked a lot of relationships for this girl. I hope her fans don't try to track her dad down and I hope he gets back to her.
The point of this video was to point out to other that even their 'idols' feel sad. Being happy all the time isn't a requirement to have a good life.
Even the barbie youtube did a similar video lately.
Wow, that was a heavy video. I had no idea she was staying in the hospital for anything like that, I thought it was probably mental health issues, I don't know… I'm glad she made the decision to not cut off her stomach, though. My mom has had bariatric surgery when she also probably shouldn't have done it, not to the extent of Venus but she wan't actually obese, and since then she's been through phases of severe anemia, she throws up a lot, almost everyday, and anyway, it's just scary sometimes.
I'm not saying I would definitely know how to handle this situation better if it were my spouse, but it's sad to hear her say she had no one to talk to despite having a husband, and that when she got the surgery Manaki threatened to divorce her. Since she's also said the only person she has to talk to is Taylor it seems like she is really isolated and alone in dealing with her severe mental and physical health struggles.
Also crazy how she's said doctors in Japan confirmed she doesn't have an ED despite all the behaviors she details in this video are textbook ED behavior and thoughts, like the severe calorie restriction and frequent fasting lasting several days, terror of feeling fat on her body and wanting to cut it off etc.
Either she's lying about the doctors saying she has an ED, or the doctor's she's going to don't know jack shit.
I'm inclined to think she's lying tbh. The mental gymnastics she's doing to somehow disprove she has an ED is insane. I feel so bad for her. We always thought Margo was the reason for her previous weight loss, but this all happened after she left. Manaki does not seem the type to push her to do this sort of thing, especially since he was angry according to Venus. Maybe its just trauma from her younger years, and stress about her mom and living on her own for the first time.
Its so sad, she really needs serious help. I'd seriously hope Taylor would see these signs and try to persuade to see that this is so much worse than what Venus wants everyone to think it is…
Honestly her ed is probably partly her mothers fault too for making fun of her stomach after eating as a child and doing body checks for her, which she’s spoken about in a previous video. Ofc it’s probbaly also a way to have control over something in her life, it’s likely her mom still stalks her and that can be very stressful. ( I don’t follow Margo threads)
In Japan Ed’s aren’t really “a thing” so it’s unlikely she’s actually been diagnosed with it. Hopefully her new therapist is a good one.
On a side note I never knew it was this severe for her and I hope she will be better soon. Hopefully her friends keep supporting ear.
If all this is true… Dude. What the FUCK. This surgery experience is insane. And the surgeon took out her appendix and gallbladder too, without her knowing he would do that and not telling her why? I know you can get some botched surgeries overseas but this is one of the worst I ever heard.
Usually medical stuff doesn't gross me out but I am physically cringing at how awful this must have been to go through. I hate to say this, but she definitely shortened her lifespan after this ordeal. That's really sad.
Also she says she can now eat like a normal person… tha is not true. You have to make big diet adjustments if you get your gallbladder out, let alone after all this shit that was done to her intenstines/stomach.
One thing I don't understand is she must've had to have corrective surgery. Is she in insane debt now due to this and her extensive hospital stay? I don't know how the medical system works in Japan but that is so fucked.
So… that means that Margo was right for once? lol
I know that having an ED is not her own fault, but getting such a surgery is plain insanity AND she has an influence on much younger girls, so showcasing her clearly sick behavior for months… Somehow can't pity her much.
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She's very sick.
tbh I wonder if getting her stomach reduced would be a good idea under the condition it was done by competent doctors.
She might feel relief from wearing a corset though, it exerts pressure on the stomach and nerves that signal hunger.
I really hope her health isn't fucked up for the rest of her life and that doctors can find a solution…she's so young. It's really sad.
inb4Lolcow isn't a fansite: I'm not even a fangelic myself but I wish her the best.
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I noticed Manaki's jaw looking very strange in this particular video, do you think he is stuffed things in his chin to look more 'anime-like' or did he recently had chin implants?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
I think it is just how the fabric hangs, he's much less shy than before but he's been wearing the masks more so he is evidently uncomfortable with his looks a bit.
I'm actually really enjoying his videos, he is funnier than Venus.
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i'm so proud of venus. she is truly growing and flourishing.
Interesting, i am actually quite happy she admits to it! If she really wants to change, it would be a great step forward.
Honestly i am always nitpicky so who knows how much of this is for views or attention but whatever she‘s going in the right direction and that‘s great.
I am also glad she cares about friendships and goes out more often than sh used to.
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Also excuse the double post
But this is the photo in reference about the (edit)
I think that she has an eating disorder which fluctuates between anorexia and binge eating. She's latched onto this condition as an "easy" way to get what she wants. I'm sort of horrified but not surprised that a Japanese doctor is even considering performing this operation on her. But then Japan has terrible treatment when it comes to mental health and even worse when it comes to eating disorders.
Basically, Venus needs to be inpatient yesterday.
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She realizes she was wrong to post about Mana. Give her a break, she is trying.
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Eh, I dunno. Her body is fucked for life now, might as well make the best out of this situation.
Apart from that - with Youtube being her main source of social interaction for years and having no private life because of Margo, I'm not surprised she feels oversharing personal stuff like this is normal.
It's really difficult to wash hair when you have had surgery. I would go to the salon to get it washed. She may not have had that option.
Anyway she has a new video up. Doesn't she have family in Sweden?
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her surgery was months ago. That’s no longer an excuse for her appearing dishevelled, greasy and unwashed in most every ig pic and YT video now.
Also - is she binding her chest? (see attached pic, from latest video)
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How about you just wash it once in awhile? And trim off those old dead ends. That would be nice.
I get that she's mentally unwell.
Still, she has the time and energy to put on tons of makeup, circle lenses, nice outfits, and edit her pictures… but can't take a 5-minute shower?
That's just having bad hygiene and nothing else.
When I was recovering from ana my hair looked like that just a few hours after washing it, maybe that's it?
But girl, seriously do yourself a favour and buy some dry shampoo either case
You don't HAVE to view everything thats public on instagram. Also stop posting this pedo shit all over /cow/ you've even posted it Margaret's thread about it. >>613747
Showering requires stripping down naked and remaining naked for a time, usually rubbing yourself. You seriously can't understand why someone with a fucking ED wouldn't want to be prolonged to their naked body? She's doing what she can. If she wasn't wearing ANY make up, nice outfits, etc she knows you cunts would be even worse. It doesn't take any more effort to put a nice outfit on than a casual one.
Just washing her head (or wearing a nice wig, or using dry shampoo..) doesn't require being naked.
It's strange that some people here seem to think that showering can somehow be optional under any circumstances. It's pretty much the only thing expected by society.
Slathering her greasy, uwashed face in makeup makes it actually look so much worse.
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So Venus follows this account on IG-
it’s all about tips and tricks for losing weight and staying skinny. 0 cal drinks, lots of veggies and other high bulk low cal foods, basically the whole ana playbook
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more of their content
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she recently liked this post:
about how to compensate for eating a meal out by restricting the next day(s)
just eat veggies and drink only water until you’ve atoned for that meal.
don’t know if she’s getting any kind of ongoing treatment for her ED but it’s clearly still there.
Nothing wrong with that. Every woman not blessed with a high metabolism needs to look after her diet.
I just hope she eats enough fats and proteins, and not just veggies all the time.
What are you so angry about? Chill.
When I was going through my own ed issues a few years ago, I never didn't want to take a shower, I was naked but by myself, and I never heard that from any of the other girls in my support group. Out in public eye most of us kept ourselves clean and groomed because we wanted to look normal. and what does being naked have to do with it? i could feel my fat stomach and thighs touching at all times-but wwhatever.
It is a norm to not care about washing when you are depressed. But she goes out quiet a bit so, its a bit strange to some.
and being mentally ill and disabled are not the same thing, do not compare the 2.
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look at venus looking all fluffy and adorable again, hanging out with yukapon. she gets along with pretty much everyone, which is a miracle considering she grew up with maggro.
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jesus it's bad.
it makes sense though. when she was with margo she wasn't allowed to have feelings or be sick (mentally or physically), so she has to go through 18 years of trauma now, all at once..
please don't die venus
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Hopefully the meds will help, I've been in her exact position (minus having a support network at all) and still am. It's tough.
Also someone left a comment on one of her recent posts criticizing her style (that it looks like for "little kids" & she's outgrown it & hoped she didn't go out like that in public), then compared her to Mags when she wore her lolita dress for (My Strange Addiction?) I think. Then, not too long after V posted this pic, clearly in public, in kawaii-styled clothing and lot's of cutsey hashtags in a comment, although it's a lot more of a subdued kawaii-style (lack of colorful bracelets, hair clips, ribbons etc) so maybe it has nothing to do with the comment(s) as I'd assume she'd wear something really over the top if she was making a subtle jab over it.
But I thought it might be a subtle jab like "F you I'll wear what I want (adds a bunch of kawaii hashtags to try to piss them off)", similar to how she sometimes makes subtle jabs to Maggot. Or am I looking too much into it lol. Her face looks pretty evil and menacing in that pic and kind of matches Mags exact facial expression in her pic, eerily similar actually, same with the way she's holding her hands & the commentator actually brought up that very same pic. I know she gets angry when ppl criticise her style (based off the previous Manaki posts,) but would she really bother making a subtle post over a hater/stranger?
Was just an interesting catch and got me thinking but maybe I'm crazy? Does anyone see it lol? I would hope it's not a jab though and she would be above that, she can wear what she wants and doesn't need to worry about such comments really.
Idk if these girls are the right influence for her tho
Mikanmandarin is anorexic and yukapon is a mentally ill drug abuser soooo
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She’s going to Narcon this month, July 26-29 in Sweden. It’s a gaming/cosplay convention. She’s on their FB page with a caption (in Swedish) but I can make out “meet and greet” and “signing session” so it sounds like she’s going as a presenter to meet fans and sign autographs.
eh, it's to be expected.
seriously, does she even have real hobbies and interests besides getting attention on youtube/instagram, clothes, food and spending money in general? all of her videos are basically about that.
for most of her life her only influence was "i'll tell my 11yo daughter that she looks pregnant after eating"-margo, so what do you expect? it will take a long time for her to find an identity of her own and stop just being a vain husk.
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bwahaha marge is gonna be ragey. She used to love going to these things back in 2013-2015 when she was rolling in those Venus Youtube bux. Now she’s a broke-ass hobo stuck in a moldy rented rooom in Seoul.
Suck it marge
Hah, fun to see some Swedish Vänner here. Might as well give you an transalation: "Our last guest is coming all the way from Japan to meet you. @VenusAngelic is coming to NärCon Sommar 2018!
Venus lives in Japan and vlogs about fashion, food, travel and everything cute. At the festival she will hold a Q&A about life in Japan. You can also meet her at her Meet & Greet and signing session.
Tag a friend that wants to come with you and meet Venus!"
I’ve seen in her Instagram stories it’s only for a week. I’m glad she can stay at friends for a while, when in couple it’s good for everyone to breath a bit and as she has no family to visit, it’s nice she has a friend.
Hope her future life changing decision is about going college!
Many people keep commenting about this meaning she is breaking up with or leaving Manaki but spending time apart during stressful times is quite normal. It doesn’t ultimately mean divorce. Lots of couples do it to clear their head and help their relationship. Perhaps her therapist suggested some space. Couples should not be glued at the hip 24/7. Manaki has solely been taking care of her while dealing with this crazy situation and when he is at work, she is spending long hours alone, lost in dark thoughts. She needs to have someone else around her while she getting used to her medications and dealing with therapy.
I saw several of her fans already declaring that Manaki must be a bar person or not strong enough for her, dispensing theories that HE must have done something wrong. How about the poor guy is exhausted and needs a break from his mentally ill wife? And she said this break is only for a week. I can’t believe how fucking naive and unempathetic her fans are.
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Glad to see that she is weight restored, she bounced back quickly.
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She liked this comment on the video, which I highly doubt she would do if she was about to announce her divorce.
Its probably hella nice to talk to someone that she shares a fluent language with too. I doubt Venus is super fluent in Japanese which probably makes expressing her emotions fully to Manaki really hard. It probably causes frustration in both of them because Manaki can't understand what she wants or how she feels besides basic words and sentences. >>628781
probably just meitu editing and filters. All the weebs edit these days.
/I saw several of her fans already declaring that Manaki must be a bar person or not strong enough for her, dispensing theories that HE must have done something wrong. How about the poor guy is exhausted and needs a break from his mentally ill wife? And she said this break is only for a week. I can’t believe how fucking naive and unempathetic her fans are./
I guess it's because they love the idea of Venus being just a frail little victim that they can project their own issues on. Having her spend some time with other people than Manaki breaks that bubble bc, well, she's not moping and being some sort-of sad puppy. She seems to realize that even when Manaki has helped her out a lot, he cannot do absolutely everything, and being with Mikan and others will be a refreshing change of pace. But to the "fans", that means she must be OMG SAD AND TIRED!! BAD MANA!!
I remember seeing her fans bitching because Mikan couldn't visit Venus every day when she was hospitalized. Now they're bitching because she CAN take her in for a short while for a change? LOL, gimme a break.
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this is so sad, she looks so big next to that girl
imagine getting all that surgery just to get thin and then exposing how big your bone structure is next to that girl
To say she may frequent this site, probably not a smart move to say she looks chunky when she's just gained healthy weight from being skeletal. It was seemingly people calling her fat from the Bodyline shoot on here and PULL (and comments from her mother obviously) which triggered
her downfall with food and weight.
She actually went on PULL to clarify that she did have a nose job. The profile was more prominent, typical Kurdish “hook” before. >>628862
No matter how much you love them, taking care of a mentally ill or physically ill person is exhausting and can hurt your own mental health very badly. These kids don’t realize what it’s like to take care of anyone but themselves and they have this warped view that the only good family and friends are those who drop everything, even risk their job, to cater to their ill relative. It’s very cold-hearted! I see a lot of this “If you can’t accept me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” mentality among tumblr kids and it makes me feel so bad for Manaki, Mikan and the others who already done so much to help. >>628975
She just gained back healthy weight and you’re taking jabs at her? Yes, she is naturally bigger boned and will never naturally be petite but don’t forget how awfully unhealthy she looked just a few weeks ago. People need to stop pointing out how big and “tall” she is and just be glad she doesn’t look like she is dying anymore.
Big as a bigger structure, not fat.
She's taller and wider in bone structure, that's not fat you retard.
Or her friend is just really petite but I doubt.
She has an east european body type, which is normally taller & wider than your normal uwu smol girl body type glorified in japan
I think Venus is actually still pretty skinny. She just looks "normal" next to mikanmandarin because she's anorexic.
Seriously I can't stand the way mikan acts around food in her and Venus videos
Hope it doesn't affect their friendship
was it actually ever confirmed that mikan is anorexic?
she doesnt look sick or boney, has nice skin, hair and a healthy glow (just compare her to venus), so I would be surprised.
she also seemed normal to me in her eating videos
She looks 10 when she's 20, she has a natural tan and thick hair due to her heritage, of course she doesn't look as white as venus.
She only ever shows her legs so it's hard to tell how bony she is.
In videos with food she's always like OMG I'm so hungry, this looks so good, I'm so huuungry(yea U sure look like u r) and takes forever until she starts eating,very annoying. I bet she and venus are ana twins
I’m a different anon but lol you say big as in simply big bone structure and not fat, but also in the same breath said “this is so sad.” How is being or looking big boned sad? Clearly you meant it negatively, and this is coming from someone petite. Venus looks
healthy finally, whereas the girl next to her often appears malnourished. Ffs.
I think venus looks heavier than usual here because of her styling choices. as far as I know she's a pear and pretty much all her fat is on her thights - these shorts make her hips look wider, and because of the loose blouse you can't see her petite upper-body.
she would look just fine in an a-line dress, or if the blouse was cut tighter.
I'm not >>628975
, famalam :v
Calling her malnourished is mean tho
She's a refugee, it's normal
Am I the only one who has actual irl friends with mikans bodytype?
You can see her body is just supposed to look like that, she looks really skinny but still "soft" enough (if that makes sense). If venus had the same bmi as her for example, you could tell right away that something was wrong. plus mikan has apparently maintained that exact weight for years, so she would be and look very malnourished by now.
I'm not saying it's impossible though, just that there are girls looking like that.. and you all definitely glamourize being smol uwu, a body like that only looks good on photos tbh.
I actually feel kinda bad. Her young, retarded and tactless fans are spamming with comments saying "Venus you're so big?!", "Venus I didn't know you were so tall and wide :)".
I genuinely wish she wouldn't have instagram. It can't be good for her mental health
they're exactly the kind of people drawn in by content like "watch me eat this giant pudding xDD", "watch me bathe in slime OwO" and bizarre clickbaits with no noteworthy content besides a cute girl talking nonsense like she's 10yo.
It's easy money, but the price is having to put up with those retards.. still better than having to work retail though.
I just hope Venus knows this, and only pretends to care for that sweet youtube bux.
In what country does she look 10 anon, she fricking looks 19-20.
what a reach anon.
Well, Venus needs to learn, she will see a lot of skinny girls (and more in japan) she cant just hide herself from the world.
I get the vibe that Mikan has a dry sense of humor.
all her friends are skinny though (taylor, you-stole my-apricot-girl and tsuruko), and have some sort of ed or at least watch their intake very closely
venus never had friends before, so I think any friend is better than none rn
I wasn’t saying for her to have no friends just…I worry about her. Like she doesn’t need to relapse.
Been there, not fun.
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Mikan throwing shade
Venus playing her “little anime games”
I swear to god, venus "worried" fans are going to chase away all her friends eventually.
It's just not wort it.
her friends are not allowed to make jokes, they have to be there for venus 24/7 no excuses, and they better think veeery carefully about what they post on their instagram, or there will be a neverending flood of retards sperging out.
did venus even comment the last time, when she uploaded her suicidal video and mikan got bullied like it was all her fault for not instantly dropping everything and driving over? I can't find anything on her instagram.
maybe venus is enjoying it idk
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I'm talking about this ..tho I noticed after scrolling back that it was only these two so far, but still.
just thinking back to people annoying manaki because he dared suggest princess venus should wear normal clothes instead of lolita, etc
Chill anon, we don’t know anything for sure, if Milan was really all that, why Venus move with her? Let’s stop assuming Milan and venua relationship, everyone here acts like V is some sort of fragile goddess that can’t be teased.
Also if anything tsuruko always gave me the wrong vibe to be honest
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Guess that confirms that her time with Mikan was definitely meant to be temporary. I would think that if anything happened with Manaki, she'd probably say something by now.
"It's just cuz I'm British, everyone is like this here"
Well first off nobody talks in that fake posh voice she puts on, it's absolutely grating. People tease their friends but they don't frickin' declare that they hate them in the middle of a sentence. She seems like a bipolar jealous freak. It's just you Mikan.
However I think it's kind of her to let Venus stay over for a week. But don't pretend your bitchy, jealous, backstabbing attitude is normal.
from the point of view of an ana-chan however, she did.
she should just play to her strenghts. like, her body is much more suitable for weight training/intense cardio than mikans for example. she could gain muscle easily, and stay petite while eating pretty much anything she wants. she looked super healthy and skinny while in the netherlands, where she went ice skating regularly and was forced by margo to go to gym (pretty much the only useful thing her mom ever did).
but first she'd have to accept that she doesn't have the body to stay a kawaii bmi 15 leek without forever suffering and probably dying very young.
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Mikan has a boyfriend though
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Suits Venus. I do not make fun of her, I just came across this picture surprisingly.
Her relationship is just normal, she has mentioned that they do talk about her problems and stuff, and its most likely that they do sleep together,
whats with anons thinking she has a secret relationship with Mikan?>>636029
Yeah, it's weird that she is in Japan and has a Japanese boyfriend right?
I don't understand why everyone assumes that because you live in another country and get a boyfriend, you're going to use them for a visa??
I didn't realise that if you move to another country you're 100% not allowed to get a partner or you're clearly using them
Stop being petty.
No, I'm not.
Because people date and marry others for visas all the time.
So its not that crazy to consider it.
All the time but not everyone does it.
people date and marry because they like each other all the time
it's not crazy to consider it.
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But Venus replied to this person about leaving manaki, obviously she is not leaving him>>639000
Manaki knows a very basic English (and as far as I know, he was learning more)
What he does has nothing to do with his will to learn the language.
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Venus posted this on her insta story.
She needs to grow it out, and maybe get rid of the bangs. Like im so sick of her with bangs. Like she looked good with out them.
I scrolled down her insta to find no bangs pics and it seems she got bangs right after she met mikan.
lol stop it with that mikan shit.
venus always had bangs. closest to letting them grow out was when she was a blonde and living in the netherlands.
I agree that those strange bangs she has rn don't do her any favors.
so no one here went to närcon to stalk her?
that's a good sign lol
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venus is cute af, but I get the unhealthy urge to aggressively pin her down and put in some leave-in conditioner in that shitty, frizzy hair of hers.
The summers in Japan are a bitch!
Humidity is high and European/Caucasian hair is not used to those levels. Esspacally bleached/dead hair will fuzz up beyond control. I tried to put some argan oil in mine and some anti frizz stuff while I was there and it still fuzzed on me. Straightening it would help for a few hours but that's it..
And I think she got it permanently straightened?! Probably damaging it more.
Not to WK, but I guess she can't do much about it other than wearing a ponytail/all her hair up.
Yeah, at this point its too fried. If she's insecure about super short hair, she could always wear cute, natural looking wigs.
All that talking about her hair reminds me that phase when she died it jet black, pretending it was "her natural dark brown hair color"… Like sure jan. Its been a few monthes she dropped this gig though, so hopefully she realized it was cringy.
Ffs on her insta the last pick without bangs was her w/ Milan that said I just met mikan!
That’s all I meant then it’s bangs bangs bangs ugly ass parted bangs!
Ok but I still think she look better without bangs. That’s my point.
Now I feel like I sound crazy.
yeah, she definitely looks better without them. she also doesn't embrace her other nice features, and tries too hard to fit in with the weebs.
I guess growing her bangs out, dressing age appropriately and having a fit body just isn't ~*kawaii*~ enough.
As someone who has been living in Japan for a decade, this is very true! I never had so many bad hair problems until I moved to Japan. Yes, her hair is damaged but the European structure also does not fare well with the humidity and some of the hair products are not effective for foreigners . Besides more regular deep moisture treatments at a salon, I think hair smoothing cream might work better for her than oil during the summer. >>652272
It was understandably a little awkward at certain places but it was so refreshing to see her so laid back and eager to talk with her peers. Sometimes she was flustered but you can tell she was excited to speak freely like this. And we have confirmation that she indeed identifies as bisexual! I’m glad she feels comfortable revealing that and not being ashamed or confused. I like how frank she was about how part of her attraction to Manaki was how feminine he is and she actually stated that SHE kind of stalked his social media for months after she first met him.
I’m counting down until Margaret finds and obsesses over this Q & A video.
Her body language is very cute. I'm just relieved no one asked her any inappropriate questions.
"what's the best thing you've done in your life?" "running away from home" kek
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lol I love mikan just because she makes you obsessed lesbians rage.
we get it, venus belongs only to you uwu
mikan is an anorexic bitch, not a real woman with curves like you~~ uwu
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Obsessed lesbians? Dakota… is that you?!
But speaking of lesbians, Venus does love her some yuri manga.^
Seriously, though. This thread is slow as fuck and nobody HERE has shown they are anything like you suggested. There were at most, two people that stated they didn’t like Mikan and everyone else has been neutral. Maybe you should just stick to PULL if you’re starving that bad? They have a whole thread dedicated to bashing Mikan.
lol well then.
I didnt even look at her whole Q and A story. It was so long
She hasnt made a video in a month. She did go to a convention but she didn't even upload any videos about it, or of it. Like a lot of other youtubers she just doesn't have a care in the world! she never seems to worry much about money.
Idk if she got paid for the convention, if she said she did I dont remember.
Also does anyone think Venus would ever have some merch, or write a table top book?
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Confused about her sexuality, I wonder what made her realise that, or I wonder if she always thought about it but never knew how to express it??
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Holy smokes! Is anyone else into graphology? It's not a real science, but look how low that t bar is! For those not into graphology, the higher the person crosses it the higher their self esteem is, lower the t bar the worst their self esteem is.
also her handwriting is a lot messier than I expected
>>665729>the higher the person crosses it the higher their self esteem is, lower the t bar the worst their self esteem is
ah yes, because her issues with binge eating and body image didn't already make that clear enough
ffs anon lol
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kek sorry guyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSgNzG-SuBI
meant to post this bc the intro is Venus throwing some shade uwu
lol I was so confused
whoa why do venus's teeth look so discolored?
I love how much shade Venus is throwing Mikan, honestly maybe that's the best way to return Mikan's constant comments which are clearly not jokes but feel shady, jealous and superficial.
Also I love how Mikan can't take either of them giving her any sass back, the exact way she does to her friends.
btw why do we all speak like nasty ghetto drag queens now >throwing shade>spill the tea
this is fag culture can't women do our own thing
no i just think women unknowingly adopting things from drag culture which is men's parody of women is kind of.. i dunno, potentially lame.
anyway I just realised mikan and venus did a whole video about why their teasing is not>clearly not jokes
for this anon >>675263
I also think it's a good video for the person who i saw once who said venus is 'not that pale'. In this video because she is verging on invisible lol
Hm I’m not sure they mean to parody women for serious reasons (I mean their audience is even mostly women), but with that being said, thanks for explaining, I appreciate it.
Anyway - yeah, they’re not jokes and I’m surprised the ‘friendship’ has even lasted.
I never had hamsters for pets, im not into tiny, rat like animals, but arent they really territorial and each need their own cage?
Or is that only certain types of hamsters?
Same anon as >>688565
I lovee the video with Taylor, it's edited so well, please more of that (vlogs in Japan/outdoors) and less hyper videos at home.
yeah, they're all very territorial and solitary.
there are some breeds that get along better, but you never know when they could turn on each other.. especially in super tiny cages like this. one of these little shits needs at least 1m² of space, or more..
that's why I think venus just isn't that nice of a person. she doesn't care about the needs of her animals, she just gets them because they're cute and thats it. and an underpaid store employee told her that those shitty plastic cages with bad ventilation are good enough, so it's ok!
she does seems different from her usual hyper self.
the slurring, glassy eyes, and kinda puffy face.. maybe she's drinking?
could also be mania though.. that would explain the sudden energy and motivation to put out a video every day.
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fans have told her since july 2017 (when she still only had one hamster), to which her response was getting more cages and connecting them through tubes.
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… that must have been only temporary to make her look good, though. because in her new video around 10 hamsters were sharing a single cage before she seperated them.
on another note: hamsters have always growing teeth and need stuff to chew on (besides food), that's why the plastic shit she puts inside the cage is actually bad for them. every hamster needs its own stuff, or they will fight each other.
and you will note that the only opening for air is at the top… but she stacked those cages.
people have told her all this multiple times.
give them to a shelter? it's not like their living conditions could worsen there.
their only happiness in life right now is just food, while they sit in their ammonia filled cage, having to fight someone every time they want to drink water.
the point was that venus is a shit person who doesnt give a shit about anything. you can always tell the real character of a person when you see how they treat defenseless animals.
last time I checked lolcow was for shittalking people, and that's what I do. venus herself is also in the top % when it comes to living conditions, so I guess there's no need to feel bad for or defend her either?
I'll laugh my ass off when one day she stops mentioning them, and later we catch a glimpse of those cages in a video and there's like only one left..
The thing is, if she had not gotten two hamsters and had not kept them in the same cage, she wouldn't have to deal with that many hamsters to begin with. It just shows that she either
a) didn't get informed at all about hamsters before getting them - because it's literally the most basic thing that there is to know; hamsters should be kept alone - and there's no excuse for that
b) she just chose to not give a single fuck about those animals. Which would be even shittier.
And like… Is she literally that dumb to not realise a male and female are going to breed at some point?
But back to your lame-ass apologies.
Just because animal abuse is normalised in countries like Japan, doesn't make it okay. If you don't have room to keep an animal in appropriate living conditions, don't get one. Simple as that.
And even if they don't face better living conditions in a shelter, they at least have a /chance/ to have a better life, whereas this way they'll die in about a year. Tops.
so you've read some answers on yahoo, or asked your aunt betty? because there is no reputable source that would ever state this.
stop it venus, just admit you don't give a fuck or ignore it, but don't try to give us this bullshit.
yea sure, just keep making claims without providing proof. maybe we will get bored and stop arguing, which will somehow make you right.http://research.fiu.edu/documents/facilities/acf/documents/hamster-biology-husbandry.pdf
-> page 20 - caging and environment: "Usually housed individually due to aggressive nature"
found this here after 2 seconds, should be easy enough to understand even for you since it's a presentation. there's more if you google it.
there are so many stories of people who found their hamster mauled to death in the morning, just in the comments of venus' video. but I guess they're all wrong, since you FEEL it's ok!
I've always got the impression that venus is rather simple and materialistic.
like the kind of person that has to buy some useless shit every day to feel good, and doesn't really think much about things. she has attempted to be deep a few times before, which was pretty embarassing to watch.. she doesn't seem to have well formed opinions on anything.
+ I remember her mentioning a few times how she loooves studying/implying she's secretly very smart, and how good her money management skills are.. so I'm inclined to believe the opposite (just like someone coming up to you and randomly stating that they're "a good person" for example.. kinda fishy)
so I believe she basically got a hamster 'cause it's cute and she needed some new shit.
everything you wrote has nothing to do with my question of why she'd get a second one if it's so well known they don't get along (but i don't
disagree with your assessments)
I meant to say that she probably didn't think very hard about it, and didn't inform herself about hamsters before buying the first or the second one.
probably just strolled in a petshop, and the store employee was like "oh yes, you should totally get a second one, they will be such great buddies!".. most people working in such a store don't care. they probably have to throw away dead hamsters all the time (happens even in countries where animal welfare is a thing).
It is only golden aka Syrian hamsters that are strictly solitary. Venus does not have golden hamsters. Other dwarf hamsters are social (although obviously any animal sometimes can fight). Dwarf hamsters are even widely used to study the role of biochemistry in bonding, due to their social nature. It seems like a lot of people fail to make the distinction between hamster species. Perhaps you should do some research rather than spending 2 seconds finding a random presentation. Here are some references.
"Syrian hamsters, also known as golden or teddy bear hamsters, MUST be kept alone. One Syrian hamster per cage—no exceptions! Dwarf species like to live in pairs."https://www.aspca.org/sites/default/files/upload/images/hamster_edu.pdf
"female dwarf hamsters (Phodopus sungorus campbelli), a gregarious species"https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163104786902542
"Most small rodent species kept as pets are social animals, also dwarf hamsters, with the exception of the solitary golden hamster. A person cannot replace a conspecific i.e. social partner, therefore these rodents must be housed in groups with conspecifics all the time."http://www.animal-protection.net/sites/factsheets/kleinnager.pdf
"Siberian dwarf hamsters form monogamous male-female pair bonds. Disruption of the pair bond results in increases in body mass and behavioral alterations similar to profiles seen in human atypical depression."https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031938496004568
"Social hamster species should be housed with their cage mates."https://www.vettimes.co.uk/app/uploads/wp-post-to-pdf-enhanced-cache/1/guide-to-care-and-treatment-of-rats-mice-gerbils-and-hamsters.pdf
I would guess she just goes to pet stores to look at pets. I had a friend that wanted to come with me to the mall when i needed to run errands and she wasted a hour of my time so she can play with pet shop puppies and talk to the employees. She wanted to buy one too but this stupid bitch lived in a dorm, had no job and no money.(the dog was a few hundred dollars)
i think thats what Venus does. Goes to pet shops, goes "cuuuuqqqte" and gets talked into buying pets by employees.
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Why does she go out of her way to look and act like a six-year-old smol child? What is her deal?
I'd say it's either due to her fetishization of the Japanese culture, but since she isn't japanese it just seems forced. Or it's part of an mental health issue - not wanting to grow up, be responsible for anything etc.
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this is the same shirt.. did she pin it in the back?
It bugs me that she does this but than shes all like this isnt what im doing, im not a kid!
I think she has some real issues and is trying to reclaim her childhood or something
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>>692031>Sometimes clothes are just clothes.
Are… Are you for real? Have you ever watched any of her videos?
She literally goes out of her way to act like a child. She even binds her breasts to make herself look more flat-chested than she actually is and you're still saying this is totally normal behaviour?
tbh I've always thought it was just her youtube-persona. she needs to stand out somehow, and what else besides acting like a toddler and looking cute can she bring to the table?
she's not funny or has any interesting ideas - at least that's my opinion.
or does anyone think people would still watch her videos if she looked and acted like the average person?
I think she would be better as a normal girl who just happened to like really cute things, and did cute gestures.maybe be a bit more subtle, than she wouldn't come off as a try hard.
shes definitely not funny, some of her video ideas have been ok, but imo her baby personality is very off putting. Like its fine to be an adult and enjoy childish things, but…idk
I agree with Anon, I just like how they phrased it.
Watched this video >>691911
And it's really good, even the Logan Paul references were funny and tasteful (if that is possible in the context).
I like how she was obviously subtly emotional about the forest and whimsy and so on. I hope she spends more time with her friends as it seems good for her.
Agreed, I think she's emotionally/developmentally stunted, trying to reclaim her childhood as other anons have offered seems likely to me. Of course it could also be a marketing thing, as >>692514
suggested. Standing out on youtube is hard and she has a pre-built online identity to fall back on that can compensate for her otherwise non-engaging screen presence. She's been pegged into that hole for so long she might not know how otherwise to be. I remember threads back people suggested she could have gone in a crafting or cute housewife direction which would have had more longevity and been more engaging compared to her current content.
Am I the only one that likes Manaki's videos better? He actually has a sense of humor even despite his stilted English.
Not so much concerned with her mental health as that video is either a desperate attempt at being "fun and entertaining" or more likely, a "jab" at the viewers who say things like she's bipolar, manic, mental, emotionally stunted etc. Sadly, she is not unlike her mother. She strikes me as a very vindictive and passive aggressive person (just better at being subtle about it unlike her mom,the petty things she does are so subtle, many viewers wouldn't even notice). So not surprised she'd do this, as she obviously reads all the gossip threads about her, yet "pretends" she doesn't care what anyone thinks. So yeah, the video looks satirical and a jab at those who said those things about her.
Personally, don't like her like I used to when the "wool was still pulled over my eyes". She just strikes me as a fake, attention-seeking, petty, egocentric, somewhat manipulative, vain person(can't stand the way she always squints her eyes to create a larger "aegyo sal" or the way she's always checking herself out in the cam, I mean even in her "I'm so depressed dont wanna die" vid). She tries much too hard to be this "cutesy" person, it always feels disingenuous, though I suppose it's not surprising given she wanted to be know for being cute as a little girl, and therefore "practiced" this persona (aka: the period stained underwear vid she accidentally uploaded which was just her staring at herself practicing cutesy poses/faces etc).
I dunno, she mostly just seems to care about money and "appearing good" to the public. I get YT is a job and she needs money somehow, but I mean, she'll even use her family drama just to get views (aka more money), going so far as to put up a thumbnail where she's visibly distressed, melodramatically shaking on camera for the drama/pity and genuine viewers will actually be concerned for her, a girl who just posted that for money (and probs a jab at margo (though understandable, still petty)). Or the surgery vid. She kept click-baiting the title and thumbnail, changing it to trick viewers into clicking and giving her more views/money, yet she claims the vid was merely to "help people". What a load of bs. Money is what drives her and she would never share a story and "be honest" if she wasn't certain she could spin it into a positive light(aka amazing, strong, inspirational, totally honest venoos). "Redemption" stories are a big thing on YT and she definitely capitalized on that (she was at her most popular during that time too).
Sorry for the rant but she just screams disingenuous. Like I remember when she said she didn't share her finances with manaki because "venoos would never burden him with her bills". What she really meant (and completely voluntarily shared to glorify herself) was "I make more money so I'm not going to share my fiances with him". And if, by chance she was solely referring to her hospital bills, she still voluntarily shared that info with her viewers, again, just to "appear good", which is something narcissistic people who want to glorify themselves would do.
Like I used to see her as totally genuine before I noticed all the subtleties. She kind of reminds me of Maergery from Game of Thrones now, who was mostly nice (but attention-seeking) with some subtle petty jabs here and there, but in the end, Maergery was still very fake, solely interested in glorifying herself and "appearing good".
It's sad b/c I find myself sympathizing with her at times, then noticing her disingenuousness at other times.
Also, seriously hope margaret was just lying when she shared that text where venus supposedly said (paraphrasing)"if you're cute and thin you can get away with anything". Like pls be a lie. She can't be that manipulative. It would be so disappointing if that's the way she thinks. And hopefully, if she did at one point, she doesn't think that way anymore.
But all in all, I hope that vid was just a random vid or attempt at being "fun and interesting". If she really IS manic or something, she should consider taking a break again to reflect. If it's just a jab (like I think) at comments on here and other forums, she should be ashamed, as most of those comments seem to be from genuinely concerned viewers.
agree with everything, but>the petty things she does are so subtle, many viewers wouldn't even notice
what kind of petty things?
and it's obvious that she lies all the time. wasn't she still telling everyone with a straight face how she's naturally skinny, etc a year after leaving margo? the truth about her ed only came out after she was hospitalized.. I guess it was just too good a story not to make videos of.
what about those "omg, I speak ((20 standard sentences and maybe about 100 words in)) 8 languages fluently!!"-claims?
she will also still probably insist on having a natural high-pitched 11-yo animu-voice when she's 40.
and no way anyone is ever gonna believe her about her "studies","side projects" or whatever productive thing she's claiming she's doing atm instead of lazing around the house (seeing as venus is super proud of a sticker book (ngl it's cute), and otherwise sharing every mundane idea she has, I'm preeetty sure we would have heard about it all the time).
the questions are.. isn't everyone doing this on youtube? would all those things even matter if the drama with margo never happened, and is she actually milky on her own?
I don’t think she’s lazing around, she has depression, that’s different, she lies a lot but i can believe her depression seeing who’s her mother, and that everything in her life relays on her relationship, if anything goes wrong she doesn’t even have a real home country (I mean, Swiss I guess but she wasn’t raised there so it should be weird idk) to go back to. So the depression thing I totally get.
Anyway her situation is bad and I don’t think she’s very milky herself, it’s rather sad to watch (not saying this to diminish her) her dark downfall, hope she’s indeed doing something out of internet cause I don’t think is the best to expose yourself so much when you have mental disorders and a vengeful mother after you. Idk but I’ve always imagined her doing something related to cook and culinary, I used to love the few cooking videos I saw from her and becoming a cook would be a brilliant way to gain life with her passion (food), then she could build a real career and feel more safe/ have perspectives. Hope I’m right and she’s able to do something only for herself alone
A convenient store in Japan, like that? Doubt it.
I’m surprised she has done nothing with modeling or something of the sort with Lolita brand (or dolly clothes or wtf she calls it). It’s something a lot of girls who go to Japan do…the ones I’ve seen anyway, that don’t go to Japan for just a semester abroad.
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looks like she accidently uploaded one of her very old videos but took it down quickly when she found out lol
interesting.. does she even get that many negative comments? I didn't see any nasty comments on facebook or youtube (besides that hamster video). Isn't lolcow pretty much the only place where people openly criticize her?
even so, I've never seen anything as bad as "kill yourself" on here.
So what the hell is she talking about?
cringe you idiot, it's obvious you are the same person who wrote this >>704086
. Let it go - do you even read this site? There is maybe one post about her per day, and only about 1/3 of them are negative. She specifically said she was talking about youtube comments (and facebook, which is odd though, because I didn't even know she has a fabebook page).>>705341
she didn't really play victim (what do you mean again?), she said If you put yourself out there on the internet negative comments are going to happen and you have to accept it. The 'off' part of the video was where she started saying how much she hates herself, which was awkward and depressing and coy and annoying. I would find this annoying even if I was her fan because it's like someone begging you to compliment them (which is not the same as playing the victim)
oh and by the way, you guys might not have noticed because it seems nobody was looking at her old videos over the last big break from output, but for at least several weeks there were thousands of retard kids posting >FUCK THIS THOT. >SHE A THOT. >What the fuck is this bitch??>She steals money from creators who work hard with copyright!! THOT
hundreds of times because it seems a hate video about her did a round of getting recommended or something and I think she must have briefly been a meme on some site hence thot thot thot
I feel bad for her.. then again, her channel seems to bring in more money than working minimum wage and she doesn't have to leave her room, so I guess it's a small price to pay tbh.
she should be smug about those 12yo's that probably don't know how adblockers work and bring her even more views.
what is the target audience for this?
it's just… depressing
her behavior has been utterly bizarre and kind of disturbing in her last few videos…
i wonder if these short videos of her acting manic are meant to be some weird halloween stunt (she started uploading these vids on october 1st) or if i'm being too optimistic
I mean… she does have a fairly large apologetic following that will excuse anything because evil evil Margarine treated her so badly :(
Plus all the Wannabe-Manaki-Weebs that fetishize this kind of stuff as much as she does.
It's the same as with Bunny Meyer (grav3yardgirl); as long as there's an audience, there's not enough reason for her to change. She lives through her internet-persona, this character is such a huge part of her life that it has become part of her personality as well.
She needs to get off all (public) social media, go to therapy and focus on what's there besides YouTube and social media.
I don't think it will happen as long as youtube is giving her money. It seems to be a fairly large sum, too.
Margo was living super comfortably with that money back in the day (eating out every day, tacky and expensive shit..), and venus herself said she's earning more than manaki and so could pay her hospital bills herself.
Sad to see she's killing her income by putting out retarded videos like this.
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Now she wants to die.
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that was for 30 minutes or so
That pic for the suicide post is old, probs around the time she went to narcon. Looks to me she was like "im gonna make a dark post, whats the most dark/emo pic of myself i can find". A person truly depressed in the moment doesnt do that. Shes looking for pity/attention again as the follow up to that post seems so "planned". Either that or she really is bipolar or manic or her meds are having some effect on her.
Also lately in her content she keeps mentioning her "haters". Im assuming shes referring to sites like these rather than yt or fb like she mentioned as she doesnt get much hate there (unless shes deleting comments regularly).
Found it annoying she mentioned there are videos out there "slandering" her (most notibly the vexxed vid) yet she CHOSE to take the ad revenue off that vid instead of force vexxed to take it down. Then she publicly complains about it. Talk about greedy then playing the victim. Jesus.
>>712547>Im assuming shes referring to sites like these rather than yt or fb like she mentioned as she doesnt get much hate there
Don't fucking start with this again. You so desperately wish she notices us. One post per day here and 3/4 of them not negative>>712541
and the hamster white-knight of is back
FYI, this website is not a Venus fansite so anyone can talk about whatever they like about her. I guess you just cannot handle someone talking badly about your queen.
And, nope I’m not the anons above.
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venus should finally decide if she's ~going to be herself from now on~, or mold her persona to her followers wishes. because doing both is what makes her seem manic and unstable.
actually it would be smarter to just seperate her private life from business - which her youtube/instagram is, no use pretending she's just doing it for all those lovely fans and because it's just so much fun!! uwu
she's obviously tired of it all
she said on twitter that she's working on a new video.. two weeks ago.
I just hope it's not a serious video about her mental illness or something cringy like that.
stop telling over 100k strangers all about your personal shit, venus. it only works for your friend taylor because she leads a cool life and doesn't have real problems.
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Depression must had been crushing her hard that she stopped looking after her hygiene, and it seems like it been a while.
I'm not sure if she noticed it or not, but I wouldn't assume that she is the kind to show the world that she doesn't shave.
Ive been saying it from the get go after she left Margo
She’s fucked in the head and problematic
and everyone pretends she’s fine
Clearly isn’t and it’s worrying how a young woman acts the way she does. Not even in a cute way but… she’s just a mess
okay no one
thinks she's fine
so fuck off with repeating your mantra
we get it
Oh god noooooo
I dont want to be that anon but.. does mana even touch her at all?
or give a single shit anymore?
I mean, sure, he probably works a lot, but is this really the best kind of care he can give her? she was walking around with greasy hair for months, looks like shit due to malnutrition,…
not like he alone could cure her depression, but you know it's pretty much over when you can't bring your partner to practice basic hygiene and shave for you anymore… or just don't care to do it.
I don't try to defend Venus but why is bad higiene if she doesn't shave? Just because she doesn't shave her armpits doesn't mean she is dirty or that she and her husband aren't fucking anymore.some people don't shave is not that weird.
Venus needs people in her life who stop enabling her childish actitudes , because she is just making herself more insecure, it seems all her life revolves around the fact that she is " cute looking" she is always making this stupid faces trying to be cute, it makes me crazy , I'm.not saying she has to stop liking cute things and clothes, but she should know they are more things in life than looking cute .
Fuck off yourself
I posted once?
She’s fucked up. Get over it.
Her attitude is 100% just a dig at those people that tell her to grow up and behave more maturely.
She's obviously unable to sit back and reflect the comments she overexaggerates it in a sense that makes all her uwu fans go 'but why would you want her to be depressed like that?'. Because obviously there's no way to act maturely without being dead inside.
she went back to makeup stuff lately. her latest video seems very "margo era-ish" with the dolly stuff and voice over.
she's desperate for views and probably hoping she'll get more with that style like she did in the past.
i notice her instagram is a bunch of different looks as well - doll, natural, professional, edgy. going from one look to another seems to get her more likes and the attention she's desperate for.
this girl should really get a real job. but i guess venus is "too good" to work in a cafe or retail or something. (and too greedy). she wants the easy way.
at the very least i hope she keeps her yt professional and her personal life out of it. i cant stand all these youtubers milking their "problems" for pity, attention, views and money, and then claiming it's to "help people". what a load of crap and venus jumped on that bandwagon and reaped the temporary benefits.
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I dont get it.. what's the point of putting on a super cute dress, and caking yourself in makeup, if your nails and eyebrows look like… this?
she should get her eyebrows done and maybe some gel nails instead of buying usueless plastic shit and burando.
pretty nails, eyebrows and teeth always come first, they're not an afterthought, venus jfc
just throwing around money on expensive shit, thinking it will automatically make her pretty is such a trashy margo mentality
Is her thumb just swollen? I noticed in the photo that Venus has a stubby thump very similar to Megan Fox. I might be wrong though, as I have to see more photos showing her hands.
As for her makeup skills, I remember her ganguro one was quite cringy for me.
She uploaded another Korean makeup video a while ago.
oops, typo….stubby thumb.>>741775
Her eyebrows shaved & in the video looks so weird now.
you think i've never seen a face close up lol. but you're right it could be lighting (bad
lighting, good lighting will make pores hardly visible)
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she changed it to "korean makeup hacks" now after the rageclick boost.
but anyway i just don't understand why you would spend 40 minutes fiddling with 7 layers of skin makeup to go from left to right
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What triggers me most about her make up video is that she applies purple colour correction under her eyes.
Colour correction is supposed to cancel out the tones, that's why you apply green on the red parts of your face. Trying to cancel out purple/blue/green-ish dark circles under your eyes with purple doesn't make sense.
Also jfc what's so hard about cleaning your nails before doing close ups?
I'm genuinely wondering if she's losing it now. She doesn't seem psychotic or anything but SOMETHING is off. She does know how to do her make up. She could do much better eyebrows than those she has done. She does know how to record videos (lightning wise etc). I can't quite put my finger on it.
But as I said; it's not like all that stuff is new to her. She's been forced to do videos she didn't enjoy doing for the majority of her time on the internet. And I feel like shaving off her eyebrows and badly drawing them on like that is a Britney Spears 2007 level meltdown for her.
It's just too odd to me to just count it as fan-service.
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I'm sorry but that looks absolutely disgusting!! Wtf did she make? Also looks like she just through a bunch of plain tofu in there, doesn't looked seasond at all
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she posted a better looking picture afterwards.
Why is mana cooking in the middle of the week? He must be working fulltime, while venus has nothing to do all day. I hope that's not a regular thing, like there's a limit even to depression.
honestly.. she was always bad at crafting, cooking, makeup, or anything requiring motoric skills. but she seems to really ejoy doing it, so why not going for a kids channel?
she wouldn't get any cristicism for her crafts there, could completely let out her childish side without it being weird, talk about candy, toys or whatever as much as she wanted.
you could put half her videos there rn and they would turn from creepy-cringy to cute in an instant.
her main channel she could use for everything else. if she wants to do low-effort videos, why not do some outfit or haul ones (we know she's a hoarder anyway, and people love that shit), or vlogs.. or maybe just ask her fans, like she did 1000x, but actually deliver this time?
You do realize that this would just cater 100% to the ddlg/pedo part of her fandom and that those will become her main audience?>>744077
She has some serious issues. She needs to take some time off and do all the puberty, early 20’s stuff that normal people go through but Margarine didn’t let her experience.
She needs to find out who she is, what her skills are and what she could work as besides making videos. Once she has figured her life out, she’ll realize whether she really still wants to do videos and what she wants her content to be.
Right now she’s dependent on this whole Venus online identity because this is very likely her only source of income. She needs to grow up, take control and choose to find herself a alternate career path before she’s forced to. And I don’t even mean ‘growing up’ in a ‘get a grip’-kinda way. She never had a chance to learn becoming an adult. But she has to now.
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Looks like mana is cooking yet again, he works a lot and it's unfair for Venus to make him cook after a hard day at work considering she does absolutely nothing, it should be 50/50 in a relationship and since she doesn't work she should do everything at home
Well she DID followed up with saying she wears more concealer tho. Tho she puts it all the way on the sides of her eyes where her skin looks normal(no bags) so its pointless and not helping there.
I Dont get why she feels the need to defend herself over it tho. Like the video itsself or the way she says 'passionate' in such a bitchy way at the start as an f you to anyone who doesnt like her makeup application skills is so ugh. And that angry look in her eye when she mentions too much face mkup. So passive aggressive yikes! Also foam face washes are terrible as they tend to overstrip the skin just saying
I think a kid's channel is a good idea, how long as her pedo fans gonna keept watching?
But you do have a point about finding alternate money sources. What kind of jobs can foreigners do in Japan? She's married so she is eligible to work and her Japanese isn't that bad. Maybe their are jobs like nail tech where the education doesn't take long?
i expect she doesn't wear her 'makeup totorial' looks around town (or ever, they're just last-ditch ideas for videos). >>744390>it's unfair for Venus to make him cook after a hard day at work considering she does absolutely nothing
this is pretty cringe. this is the pulltard "everyone around the cow is being mistreated by them and is a poor thing uwu. i protec them" instinct. you don't know what the deal is lol, maybe he likes cooking. Another point is, venus has said before she's financially independent so, maybe she pays her share - i dunno how that works with her youtube videos so low though. i dunno how any of these people make money. 30k views is like $50 maybe.. for a whole day's work. and only once a month uploaded on average.. fuckin how
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is it just me is she going down the same root as dakota via photoshop? she edits her photos to have a smaller nose and bigger eyes and smooth skin and even a smaller mouth
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Looks like she has just given up on cooking and making mana do it, he's being doing it for days now
Holy shit that laugh at the end…
God she’s so fucked up at this point. Seems a bit like she’s been acting like a child so much that she actually un-learned how to be an adult. (although tbh even behaving like a teenager would be progress at this point).Or she’s psychotic and Mana is an actual pedo that takes advantage of it by influencing her behavior.
I know this is stupid, hence the spoiler. But, you know…
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Good! Also working on a video.
oh god, I'm so happy for her!
I hope it's actually true and she can finally enjoy her life
yes she is. in candid photos you can see her eyes are actually deep-set, semi-hooded and kind of small. with the right camera, editing, makeup and angles they appear waaay large tho. her eyes are small like margarets but she has a bit of a more pronounced tear bag to give the illusion of bigger eyes, as well as aegyo sal makeup, squinting and editing. her nose is big like mags too, slightly less bulbous tip but she edits that too. her lips are thin and long (her moms actually look smaller and more doll like). she edits her jaw often as well and completely smooths the face like margaret. if you've seen her in person, she looks different.
Also another bad makeup vid. Sadly all her "looks" tend to end up looking the same and why does she filter the fuck out of the videos?
she looks like she's going back to the old style of videos she used to make as she got more views then
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with her husband cooking. Why shouldn’t Venus be proud to show it? It was also only a few meals she has shared. You are needlessly nitpicking. >>752139
It’s cute but extremely boring. I can’t tell what direction she wants to take her channel or if she is close to giving it up. You can obviously see the effects of her medication, but I don’t think that it means she is actually sad in recent videos.
I will say that her hair has been looking very healthy recently so I assume her overall health has been better.
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I don’t even know if those are better or even worse than her own nails.
Couldn’t she at least have chosen some that cost more than ~5$ and more importantly ones that fit?
I think they look really nice for her first attempt. she probably wasn't sure about them, and wanted to try out cheap ones first.
She really should stop lurking here though (if she does).
lolcow isn't representative of most peoples opinions about her. her subscribers seem to really love her and her videos.
I hope she realizes that. if she lurks here.
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cheap false nails that have fallen of are so angelic and kawaii!
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fuckin.. all i can feel in the latest video is "i'm in filter hell". and kind of makeup hell too. Going to the mall today and seeing so many unladen fresh faces that don't look like someone with a stocking over their head was so revitalising after too much internet beauty world and starting to sink and drown under these layers of smart blur mugg and foundation fugg.
She looks like a chalk drawing in pic related
She looks like an AI-upscaled texture
I think its a big improvement from a lot of her more recent content and her older makeup videos. I doubt her makeup looks polished
and I would not wear her looks but I find her makeup videos oddly fascinating, its like the 'outside art' of the beauty youtube world. She makes odd color choices, chooses odd placements, and uses brands no one has ever heard of and ultimately makes looks that are distinct from the cosmetic zeitgeist. Maybe other people feel similarly and that is why her makeup videos were well liked. I think she was good at hair tutorials too so that might be another good direction. Completely agreed about the filters though. Too aggressive.>>749812
nice to hear good news for her, guess the milk will dry up.
No, they don’t. Even for a first time try they look terrible.
And there‘s nothing wrong with trying out cheap ones first, but for god‘s sake if they turn out this bad just remove them entirely before filming.
Also as >>752772
pointed out, there is one missing as well.
They don’t fit, there are some missing, not to mention the bad cuticles. It looks like she didn’t put any effort in them at all. Unkempt and unhygienic, just like her natural nails. So there’s really no point in wearing fake ones.
There’s btw nothing wrong with being not able to 100% take care of yourself due to depression etc. But she’s doing make up/beauty tutorials. And earning money with it. There should be at least a hint of professionalism or effort if she expects this to pay her bills. And right now there’s not.
Also: she can do better. We’ve seen better of her. There’s literally no excuse for this low effort bullshit.
dude can you imagine what her eyebrows would look like without that filter?
maybe she's trying to protect us from that horror
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have you seen her eyebrows and makeup without filter??? she needs the filter so it looks better but if you compare her makeup with an actual beauty youtuber it's very emabrassing that she tries to pretend to be good at makeup and make tutorials that no one in there right mind would use (well unless you want to look like you're bad a makeup i guess)
soo they've got another hamster (around 13:00).. why though?
didn't she have like 10 already, and people were giving her shit for keeping them in tiny cages?
maybe most of them died by now, so she has more space
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omg why are her under eyes so bruised????? did she get plastic surgery? you could go a week without sleeping and still wouldnt get that dark
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i don't understand her, she's always telling people to love themselves and promoting body positivity yet posts highly edited pics of herself. if she wants poeple to truly beleive what she says then she needs to take her own advice and just accept what she actually looks like instead of spending 10 hours editing her face
strange she never said a word about her other channel. I'm laughing my ass off rn>>759714
maybe because she doesn't look as fresh faced anymore? you can't really tell from the left picture, but sometimes (in photos taken by other people) you really can tell she looks unhealthy and more like 25~. no one would ever think she's under 20 irl
I'm really confused now, isn't she saying that the character is 16?she goes on about being a second year at Lumiere and such.
Did you and me watch the same video, anon?
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>someone asked what she looked like irl and she said in her response that she looks 16 years old
pictured: venus, looking not a day over 16
yeah. she's only 20 and already looks washed out and kinda desperate in her kawaii clothes and pigtails.
aren't round and meaty faces supposed to look youthful for longer? her skin shouldn't have lost any volume and elasticity at her age. if it's her diet then she has to change it asap, it's better to be chubby than look this worn out.
You mean like when I commented on these two posts?>>753541>>754277
nor the left part of >>754277
is filtered. They're both mangled by video compression. That was all I said.
I can believe that the right picture of >>759714
is edited and wrote as much. Using the left one as part of a comparison on photoshopping is retarded because it's an overcompressed mess.
>>762141>she said in one of her videos she looks 16 in real life
this is the part that i think you don't understand. 'in real life' doesn't mean in real life. the ai's voice actresses aren't giving away their actual irl details - this is still part of the character>>762289
please go back to 4ch/g/ or whatever with this a/v autism
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Venus was live and she came out, the whole live was so wholesome and just nice to see her so relaxed and happy with a friend
I’m sure she said she was ages ago somewhere else?
Half the world is bi these days and she’ll never part with manaki
A Japanese man who will give her a hafu weeb child tho so it doesn’t even matter
they did a video together like 2 weeks ago.
to my knowledge they never posted pictures of each other since 2016, and while mana deleted pretty much everything since then, you can still see pictures of him if you scroll far back on venus instagram.
people thinking they broke up because she removed him in her bio.. is this facebook
she's bi tho. the only difference to someone hetero is the bigger pool of people she finds potentially attractive, so this shouldn't be an issue in a happy marriage.
i'm actually sceptical whether she is actually bi or just believes it. like, how does she know?? she never had a relationship before mana.
i think she just finds girls to be aesthetically pleasing, and is kinda drawn to them because she never had real friends when she was with margs, and now maybe believes it's sexual attraction?
>>769088>she's bi though so blah blah
fuck off, how did she find she gets horny off women unless she's going around looking at pics or whatever of women and getting off on it. Something which if your partner does, is disloyalty unless you're tumblr scum "we watch porn together" freak (which means you're very ugly and need to cling to each other)
I agree though I don't think she's actually bi lol everyone has this fuckin phase.
Everything's a phase same as how every single video including the last one is "i'm not like that now, i'm like this now!" see how it lasts one month until she's looking back at this video and going oh ugh
It was definitely a lot better than I anticipated. Hopefully Venus’ self awareness can eventually help her get a better foothold in her recovery.
Maaaaaaan if it doesn’t shed a bit more insight into how much Margo messed her up though.
God she's still thinks shes such a "special little eccentric snowflake". Cannot stand her.
"Not very many ppl can say they grew up on the internet…"
Is her head so far up her special ass? Everyone I know (especially the current teenage generation) is "growing up" on the internet. She is such an egocentric brat.
" I'm a weird special little creature" "when ppl laugh at me I can laugh with them".
No you dont, venus. You get pissed off but for the sake of your obsession with "seeming good" like marzia or mikan mandarin or maergery tyrell, you lie. Just like she said she doesnt read her gossip threads. Yeahhh right (rolls eyes)
>>769742>Not having a fav food doesn't mean she doesn't have a self
that's right, but she only said that because she was grasping for a way to illustrate something very abstract and hard to put into words - which is also why you don't understand what I meant, so i'll give up trying to get it across lol. it's like if you've spend a few days in silence with nobody and no stimulus around you, you'll know what i mean>>769741>pity
this is just ridiculous. the video was entirely positive after the first 30 seconds.
Same ol Peenus being an attention whore, what a surprise. Time to join the Kawiwi sooo gay and soo depressed Confetti Club.
Inb4 spergelic's rant "u jelly of our queen Weebus living the purfect nihon dreamu"
so.. how is she supposed to behave to not be considered an attention whore?
(she obviously can't leave youtube as it's her job)
Stop making videos and get another, actual job.
You’re pretending like she has to do videos not to die or go bankrupt within a few days when this is not the case.
Also nobody is criticizing her for doing YouTube in general, stop defending her with straw man arguments. She just needs to stop to exploit her personal issues for clicks. She’s mentally unstable, wow. So is basically everyone else in their twenties. Except that everyone else doesn’t try to make money out of it because there’s nothing quirky, cute or romantic about it. She‘s sick. There’s treatment for it. She‘s not 6 anymore where you can sit down crying because you got a scratch on your knee and everyone tries to console you. That‘s not how the world works and by pretending her way of dealing with her issues - getting her online following to pity her - is somehow okay doesn’t help anyone.
She has people that are there for here irl and off camera. Those are people that are supposed to be her safety net. Not a bunch of faceless numbers on the internet.
She has issues but by continuing the same pattern as the past years she won’t change shit about it.
THIS. I love you anon.
Also is she even pursuing an education? Studying japanese is good since she wants to stay there longterm but that won't be enough to provide her a job. She said in one of her videos about studying languages that studies come before an interest in languages but she's been doing the exact opposite since years… She can't even follow her own advice. Since she lives with Manaki it's not like her situation in Japan is unstable. If he doesn't support her financially she could keep making videos while studying, sure that's a lot but that's how it's like to be a responsible adult. She doesnt seem to realize she won't be a kawaii anime child forever and that Japan isnt just a giant themepark.
She did a live stream on instagram a couple hours ago and answered some questions, including if she plans on continuing her education. Answer: no that’s not going to happen because she’s “a middle school dropout” so she’s concentrating on reading a lot and her “business” (Youtube? She barely makes videos anymore so idk what “business” she’s talking about.
Also she could get her HS diploma equivalent online if she wanted to so that excuse doesn’t fly.
>>771222>She doesn’t hate her mom but feels sad about her. She’ll make a video about that soon.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ. She needs to fucking stop milking that cow.
That’s exactly what I meant by ‚exploiting her personal issues’. There’s literally no point for her to make yet another video about her mother except for clicks.
If she actually cares about her mental health and wants to become better, she needs to take ten steps back and keep her personal life to herself. Because once she puts this stuff out there, she‘ll get thousands of opinions on herself and her life. And as someone who‘s struggling with knowing who she actually is out of her internet persona, that’s the last thing she needs.
But as long as she‘s literally doing the complete opposite of anything that would be beneficial to her actual life, not just her bank account, I‘m having a damn hard time believing she even wants to become better.
>>771435>She'll make a video about that soon
How it's not milking the situation for YouTube bucks?
You Venus stans pulltards are ridiculous.
Thank you, that’s what I meant.
Obviously there’s nothing wrong with briefly answering questions.
>>771279>Does Mana even know this whole bisexual story?
Gurrrrl, have you seen his Instagram comments whenever Venus and her friends make lesbian jokes about each other? He’s totally into it and he probably isn’t so straight himself.
Why are you and others disturbed by “leaning towards lesbian” part? She is just describing her personal sexuality and what she is turned on by. Girls on her Instagram are always trying to show her BTS videos like they’re the hottest things ever and she is just explaining that she can’t get into that stuff because it’s not appealing to her in the same way it is for them. The way she leans in her sexuality doesn’t reflect on her fidelity or ability to love someone. Think about it: If someone strongly states they are 100% heterosexual, does that mean they are always looking at other women while they are with their girlfriend because their heterosexuality is so deeply ingrained? Because you’re insinuating that due to Venus’ sexuality, she can’t be faithful to an individual person, even though Venus has stated that feminine boys like Manaki are the exception for her. Don’t conflate sexuality and romance because they don’t always mesh perfectly.
And for the last time: They sleep together, in the same bed, at night but have separate day rooms where they spend time and play on their computers/game systems, etc. If Manaki is working odd hours and coming home late, is Venus supposed wait for him on their marital bed or keep herself occupied in the living room/kitchen all day? Extra rooms like a father’s office, mother’s sewing room or a kids toy/game room are completely normal, you know.
venus kept her mouth shut for a long time, while margo was talking shit about her to anyone willing to listen. her fans (the people that matter to her, so not you) have been asking her these questions all the time.
if so many people want to hear about her personal stuff, she gets money from it AND enjoys it, then why shouldn't she make those videos?
it's not like yall wont be the first to click on any shitty clickbait video she puts out. just enjoy the goddamn milk
>>771877Fuck off to PULL if you can’t handle people criticizing your precious little uwu angel princess
When was the last time Marge actually did though? So why not speak up against the allegations when they come up in the first place?
Right now her clicks are dropping rapidly so she needs something to fix that. Which is drama.
Which also explains why she shouldn’t do it: It‘s not a video she WANTS to do. It’s not a video she‘s doing because it’s something she enjoys. She‘s just serving an audience.
She actually said herself that she kinda doesn’t know what her personality really is. So what she should do is take a huge fucking step back from being who and what her viewers and fans want her to be. Which would be the opposite of ‘oh ppl ask for this so I’ll do it’.
>just enjoy the goddamn milk
What milk though? There won’t be any actual milk. This will just be another 10+ minute video of >marge was and is mean>so many lies>poor me can’t live a normal life
when she actively keeps doing stuff that keeps her from having a normal life.
It’s literally that shocked pikachu meme in action.>’I’m so depressed and don’t know who I am’>does literally nothing to change that > :O
>>772613>So why not speak up against the allegations when they come up in the first place?
what's the difference? people are gonna insist that she's only doing it for attention anyway.
if anything, doing it now, after years, proves that it's not just about getting maximum attention. plus, she's putting zero effort into youtube, so I doubt she's getting real desperate here.
I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt this time and believe it's actually therapeutic and necessary for her to talk about stuff.
I mean, she'll probably cringe about it later and delete, but please stop pretending you care soo much about her mental health. some other anons here do this too.
if you actually did, you would leave encouraging comments on her instagram, not some posts on lolcow talking about what an idiot she is. it's like you have to justify yourself because you know you're just being unnecessary salty.
also "milk" may be a strong word, but I'm kinda hopeful for new margo-pearls like "all mexicans are short and fat because they eat so much corn"
Kek I don’t care about her mental health at all and neither do I pretend to.
She just keeps saying how well she is and how she’s trying her best to become better and so on. I’m simply saying that she isn’t and what would be best for her.
But anyways, what >>773062
Keep on defending her. I’m out. If I wanted to read how great she is and that she can’t do any wrong over and over again I’d go to the Margarine thread or PULL.
Oh man. That video's going to be quite the pity party. I can't believe she's planning on making another marg video (though kinda assumed the second part of her vid would be that, given where she stopped). Is she planning on releasing it near marge's birthday too, like she did last year (where she talked about the pregnant comment) to low-key get marge hated on. I get that marge is an asshole and stuff, but it's ALWAYS the same crap with venus. It's always about pity and attention. Remember the calling my dad video? That was just posted for clicks using family drama for views/money and a clear jab at margaret. She was getting so much "aww poor venus-chan" comments it was sickening. Like if you need to do it for therapeutic reasons (like some here tend to defend her with), then do it OFF camera, with your husband, friends and THERAPIST.
And then there were the plethora of hospital vlogs. I remember her stating she doesn't share her money with manaki to not "burden" him. Completely voluntary information just to glorify herself and she most likely doesn't share (if still applicable) since she earns more and is fairly greedy. And then there was the first video on marge. I get she had to explain that they're not business partners anymore but one of the points she criticized marge for was"trashing manaki" as if she herself never did (quite a hypocrite) and thus the pity party began.
She's very egocentric. And loves a pity party. This is clear. Can she not just make vlogs hanging out with friends, teaching us about japan, doing random things that don't involve SELLING her pity stories to an internet audience to glorify herself?