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No. 732785

HollyBRown is a bad artist, YouTuber, webcomic author, and fujoshi popular with edgy children for her "no bullshit" attitude despite not accepting any criticism.

She beleives she's known for her three webcomics:
Purgatory, her oldest and worst comic, about two gay teens in a cult with lots of rape: https://tapas.io/series/Purgatory
Paranormal Plague, whose most-drawn character hasn't been introduced, with rape DLC: https://tapas.io/series/Paranormalplague
Chroma Prince, her newest Patreon-only NSFW yaoi comic about alien sex slaves, not updated in a month at currently four pages: https://www.patreon.com/hollybrown

She's actually most known for ranting about the CalArts admissions process being unfair even though she was DEFINITELY accepted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB90iDxOcIg

WEBSITE: https://www.hollycbrown.com/
YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/user/hollyistotallycool
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/h.c.brown/
TWITTER (currently deleted): https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
TUMBLR: http://bullshitshitpostmainaccount.tumblr.com/

Fresh Milk:

>Got caught tracing an anime screencap for a painting she intended to sell

>Locked her Twitter and scrubbed her social media
>Reappeared with a video saying it was just a placeholder for composition, contradicted herself constantly
>Dug herself deeper in the comments and is now sharing her views on rape (they're bad)

>Organized a for-profit BnHA zine with over 60 different artists to sell at SanJapan

>Complained they didn't meet her abrupt deadline then dragged her feet for weeks
>Didn't label any submissions so artists were unidentifiable
>Committed to printing them at home, realized that was hard, so closed the zine shop without alerting any of the artists
>Sent each artist $20 to blow it over. Some artists got another $20. Some people who pulled out of the zine still received the hush twenty
>Accidentally leaked names/addresses/phone numbers of almost every artist in an unlisted but accessible YT video
>Took too long to fulfill zine orders, downplayed the zine on all her social media to dissuade anyone from ordering more
>Still refused to get the zine printed professionally or even send out a PDF copy
>Meanwhile her own webcomic rape yaoi doujinshi was printed professionally in time for SanJapan
>Had plenty copies of the BnHA zine herself for SanJapan
>Zine artists are now posting photos of the copies they finally received and they have misaligned, poorly cut, and upside-down pages
>has still failed to apologize
>deleted her twitter and pretended her instagram got reported and remade because she got called out
>over 50k in debt

Cheese:

>Hired an under-paid flatter for her webcomic, didn't tell him what she wanted, then blasted him on YT when the flats were wrong

>Shoehorned rape into her comic without warning because she was obsessed with Killing/Stalking at the time
>Complains about being poor but spends thousands of dollars on unnecessary supplies she then gives away or sells at a huge loss
>Explains she can't be a fujoshi because she wouldn't fetishize gay men irl. She is
>All her political views come from Fox News so she's too scared to move out of Texas in case a leftist kills her for using a plastic straw
>Also says she's bi so can't be homophobic but then says she's straight and hates/would never date women unless they're a 10 because men are better
>Tried to display said explicit rape yaoi doujin at SanJapan and got mad when she was asked not to do that because she put small cat stickers over the penises
>Can't spell but refuses to get a proofreader so her printed works are full of typos, most famously "trust" for "thrust"
>Has a Twitter stalker named Keith whom she enables


Project list:
>Hamilton Animatic/Zine, Clever Kitchen animation, 3 webcomics, Patreon, store, originals, fixing the BnHA zine, stickers

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No. 732803

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No. 732806

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No. 732808

>>732785
Completely forgot she was even working on a Hamilton thing. I think it’s safe to assume that project is dead.

No. 732810

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No. 732811

>>732806
Classic Holly. ‘I paid for this you gais so I can totally tr-I mean reference it!!1!’

No. 732812

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No. 732813

>>732806
I knew she wasn't going to be able to resist fighting the haydurz lol. Never change, Holly. No one's saying that tracing that drawing is illegal, just uncreative and lame. What does she even mean by "free-handing a reference?"

No. 732814

>>732813
May your milk never run dry Holly!

No. 732815

>>732813
That just means she saw her thread #14's title

No. 732816

>>732813
putting the ref. next to your canvas and drawing while looking at it.

it bothers me people pile up the patreon ref thing with the AL thing. They're different imo, I honestly have no issue with her using the kiss ref because that's what it's intended for.

But tracing over other people's artwork is the big no-no

No. 732819

>>732816
Ah okay, weird flex, but whatever floats the BRown boat I guess?

No. 732823

>>732812

>It was just a placeholder, it was stupid of me to post it assuming people knew what i was doing the whooooole tiiiime, but i guess it's not my fault how people minsunderstand my words oh well UwU


God she'll never own up.

and cinnabani is on a crusade, jfc it's so obvious she comes here i'm getting secondhand embarrassment.

No. 732827

>>732823
She's admitted multiple times to coming here not wk but idk why that matters lol

No. 732829

oh boy here we go

No. 732832

>>732829
I dunno why she forces the "hey grannies" thing. It didn't work when it was "sup sluts", and it's not working here now.

No. 732834

>>732829
starts off by saying she totally understands the 'repercussions of her bad decisions'

the irony

No. 732836

>>732832
It's a really good way for her to remind her audience that she's being "censored" without sounding salty about it though

No. 732837

>>732832
of all the things to nitpick. besides, her fans love it so it actually works well

No. 732839

>>732829

>I'm not gonna give you advice

>I give the most authentic advice tho
>other people who give advice dont make mistakes so they dont understand

she literally cannot go two minutes without putting someone else down

No. 732840

shit, forgot to sage

No. 732841

>>732829
Hasn't she uploaded some tutorials on skillshare herself? Her praising it sounds so cringey - besides, quality control doesn't seem to be too strong there, if each and everyone can upload their stuff and take money for it

No. 732844

>my advice is authentic
>because I make mistakes
>but people who don't make mistakes
>don't understand the repercussions
>when they make mistakes.

…But people who don't make mistakes…
don't have repercussions to worry about…?

Holly. Never change. Those first few sentences alone have blown apart the case you hoped to make.

Like this is all her videos are going to be now, just reminders about how she fucked up.

No. 732848

>>732844
that one verbal tic that ruins her credibility. instead of just saying
>I fuck up so sometimes from me you can see what not to do
she burbles
>people don't understand
>other people don't even know
>other people can't
even though I don't think that's strictly how she thinks of things

No. 732850

>>732829
Sorry, but I'm not understanding the 'I didn't know about the world, so I shouldn't have continued school' part???
Where I'm from (middle europe) it's considered a good idea to continue your education at once you've finished the mandatory stuff, since taking a gap year can be pricey and it's harder to go back being a student once you've started getting used to having a job.
I'm wondering if this is an american thing, or is it just her usual bullcrap?

No. 732852

>>732850
isn't college cheaper in europe though?

art schools in the US are criminally expensive.

No. 732856

>>732852
Yeah, it's basically nothing (about 300 euros per semester, if it's not a private school)
Does that mean in the US you generally start to work before you go to college?

No. 732864

Oh my fucking god i thought it was going to be a joke when she said her "I can't get my degree but that just goes to show you don't need a degree!" video was sponsored by skillshare. but it fucking really is

No. 732867

>>732856

OT, but You could work 2 jobs and still not be able to afford going to college, AND being on your own/paying your own bills, that's how bad it is. It's a catch 22. they want you to stay in school and not worry about working but then when you hit college age, and decide college isn't for you it's, 'why aren't you working??' If you aren't working, 'why aren't you in college???'

These sentiments are becoming less popular as time gets on but it's still very much a big stigma. They (the education business/parents/elders) back younger folks into a corner that way. By the time it's all said and done, those who aren't well off, are screwed into unforgivable debt.

No. 732869

>>732829
It honestly makes me sad that she supposedly had so many scholarships but just, wasted them on art school?

No. 732871

>>732864

It was literally a skillshare commercial. Skillshare has like 0 quality control and she tries to conflate the message of not having an art degree with learning online for free anyways.
She even suggest her younger audience take a year off, when not everyone (like her) has that luxury.

No. 732875

I agree with her in the whole "you dont need a degree to work in the industry". You really don't, you need a good portfolio. College gives you contacts, and it's very hard to get art jobs without those. Problem is, teaching yourself art requires discipline and not being arrogant, Holly.

Making it a skillshare commercial is hilarious though, way to undermine your point.

No. 732881

>>732875
Some studios go to colleges like CalArts to hire new animators though. You can get hired without a degree sure but getting a degree generally gives u the skills and the connections you need for specifics job.
Honestly the reason hollys now so against art schools is that she misused her opportunities.

No. 732882

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Did she remake her twitter??

No. 732884

>>732806
I can't stop laughing at the fact that she's claiming that there wasn't any rape in her comic.

You know, the same comic Reese drugged hershel, kidnapped him and then had sex with him.

No. 732885

>>732882
I'm hoping it's a troll account, cause if it's not I just lost every smallest ounce of respect I could ever have had for her.

No. 732886

>>732882
And so she digs her hole deeper.

No. 732887

>>732882
Actually, the speeling is in fact too good - well, I'm on the fence, let's see what she posts in the future there

No. 732888

>>732882
is… is this legit her? lmao

No. 732890

>>732888
Nah, smells like a troll

No. 732892

Sorry lol, but how could you think even for a second that account is real? Yes, it's a troll account, would be funny to see what Holly would do if the troll twitter gained any traction though

No. 732894

>>732882
not enough idks, definitely fake.

No. 732896

>>732829
She makes the worst possible examples on why you don't need art school tho -
- "I'm where I am now cause I watched tons of online vids!" (yeah, great inspiration Holls)
- "You know this no name animation studio?! They didn't go to art schools (probably)!"

I get the idea behind not wanting to get an overpriced education, especially in portfolio-related jobs, but she sincerely can't explain it well

No. 732902

>>732829
The comic pages are so wonky and all over the place, i'm not surprised but it's really hardcore how's she's stagnating with her art, like holy mother of god

No. 732904

>>732882
Lmao it's so telling of Holly's character that people would believe this is real, apart from the lack of "idk" "stfg" and "fam" this account is p good. Can Holly RP accounts be a thing from now on?

No. 732905

>>732829

did i honestly just watch holly draw either simon or his mother try to commit suicide by hanging?

are you fucking kidding me BRown?! thanks for not including any kind of warning for that. you know, the person that loves to go on about MuH DePrEsSiOn~~ and how she constantly thinks about killing herself of course does not consider the impact that imagery can have on others.

fucking cunt.

No. 732907

>>732884
god i really hate to be that guy and i think i'll get shit for this/it's kind of late for this, but i really don't think it was a RAPE comic and i'm starting to roll my eyes a little bit every time we clutch our pearls over this. it feels like low hanging fruit because it's not like anyone is going to fact check the comic so it's an easy claim to make anyway, and it's not like i don't enjoy watching holly squirm. but there are a few panels in seize where reese asks heschel for permission and….. checks on him i guess? it's standard yaoi garbage written by a person who has never interacted with another human much less romantically but i think it's kind of overdramatic to call it rape. that doesn't excuse the stupid "i could have thrown you off!!" comment he makes at the end because its a clear indicator that holly has skewed and stupid/harmful views of people who do get raped irl but otherwise…. calling reese a rapist is sort of dramatic.

tbf i think she should be less precious with all of her ideas. she shouldnt't have kept purgatory going all of this time because it's BAD and it's okay to let go of bad, old ideas you had as a teen. but i have similar feelings about paranormal plague, she should honestly probably just overhaul the whole thing again especially since she's only made, what, 15ish pages of it? rename it, edit your ideas, redesign and rename the characters. not in an obvious way of course. but i don't the idea that reese = rapist is ever going to past lmao

No. 732908

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Cinnabani says she has DMs from Holly and is considering posting them.

No. 732909

>>732907
eh, the checking in is barely there. To anyone with no knowledge of holly it'd be a comic about some dude drugging and kidnapping a dude then having sex with him. i consider that rape.

the weird domestic thing at the end where hershel claims he could have just sat on reese is just lazy and super out of place.

No. 732912

>>732907
It's not an awful sin or anything to write a non con comic, I think the funny part comes from her being unable to admit that she's into that type of stuff. It just ends up as more questionable when she's trying to make it more… Consent-y? It's pretty much just there so that she can feel good about what she drew and not be like the other rape fujos. Again: Not a huge issue, it's just a little creepy/funny, also Holly's reactions to people calling it a rape comic is great.

No. 732926

>>732909
you can imagine a final page where herschel rushes to the police station having tricked the psycho with that i love you too shit to get out in one piece

No. 732929

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well i feel sheepish

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No. 732931

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two pages a day everyone

i will atleast give her credit that these 2 pages dont look like TOTAL ass like her comics usually so

No. 732936

>>732931
two pages a day is a good recipe for burnout

No. 732943

>>732931
No, they definitely still look like total ass, anon, are you blind?

No. 732945

>>732931
I have to agree she is getting better. It still has problems but it could be worse.

2 pages a day seems a bit excessive but if she creates a buffer and posts a page every other day she will have enough pages to wait out the eventual burnout.

No. 732946

>>732837
her fans love everything she does no matter how shit lmao

No. 732948

>>732931
"I'm gonna try my best not to make it a weird power dynamic" yeah because that's totally not where the appeal in slavery comes from for you, Holly #notlikeotherfujoshis

No. 732953

>>732943
The new pages flow a bit better than her usual stuff and other than the fact that the white haired kid looks tiny on that bed, nothing looks blatantly off.

Writing wise the story hasn’t really done much to hook me yet but what can you expect from Holly?

No. 732954

>>732931
i dont get why she always have to pick the touchy subjects for her comics. Rape, Religion, Slavery.

It's like she thinks you can't tell a meaningful story unless you make it edgy and controversial.

It would be okay too if she actually researched the subject but she kinda just pulls everything outta her ass.

No. 732958

>>732954
Gotta have that shock value, henny. Very meaningful and deep, natural storyteller and all that

No. 732959

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>>732829
>>732882
>I'm so successful
>Did I mention I'm broke

No. 732961

>>732954
Not sure about the religion bit but I’m pretty sure rape and slavery are just part of her kink lol.

No. 732963

>>732959
That's the joke, it's a parody account fam

No. 732967

>>732882
This parody account is hilarious. It’s in poor taste but hilarious.

No. 732978

>>732930
These pages are 60% pre rendered backgrounds lmao it's easy to do 2 comic pgs a day when they look like this…

No. 732987

>>732785
I just realized OP edited the arthur apology letter thing to be holly's hands. dirty nails and all. my sides are in orbit

No. 732988

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No. 732996

The main reason to get an art degree is to have more credibility in your name, it lets future employers know that you spent the time to learn ans understand the work field you are wanting to get a job in. it makes you more valuable as an employee overall.

No. 733002

>>732996
Except even if she had an art degree, her internet persona has completely shot her credibility in the foot.

No. 733011

>>732907
Dude you're right I feel the same way when people call Bill Cosby a rapist Reese already knew Hershel was into BDSM so drugging him was totally consensual and not at all rape. (/s if you can't tell)

No. 733014

>>732953
>the white haired kid looks tiny on that bed
a mix of bad art and him being meant to look tiny because he's all tiny and innocent and sweet and he's going to raped so hard and ruined so good. That is how she gets her cummies and i can only speculate it's because she got something done to her as a kid. People who admit looking at child abuse shit say when i look at this I'm the child, not the adult. cos this happened to me

No. 733017

>>733014
I highly highly doubt it. You know who else is into rape? Teenagers. She's just an idiotic child with limited to no sexual experience with a rape fetish born of yaoi. Unless you're implying that all fujoshi are abused sexually as children?? Lmao

No. 733018


No. 733029

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Looks like someone is finally sharing the zine discord screenshots
https://twitter.com/Hollybrownart/status/1063293404409487360?s=20

No. 733032

>>733029
fucking FINALLY, i’m so glad they included her half-assed replies as well. she doesn’t make any sense bc she’s fishing for random excuses as to why everything went to shit when the only reason is bc she didn’t give a single solitary fuck about anyone else but her (and her money, of course. at this point, i’m almost convinced she has more sympathy for cash than she does for actual human beings).

No. 733033

>>733029
Is she fucking serious?? She completely ignored the artists that say they have zines they can't even sell and makes herself the victim somehow??

No. 733039

>>733033
Dontcha know?? She can’t out out high quality or even half decent products for other ppl when SHE (and only she) doesn’t think they’ll sell!! ;((( h c brown, “professional artist and business expert”. oh wait, she had some zine copies at her own table at san japan before shipping out any to other artists? welll…she’s a lot more famous than those other losers, so she deserves the most money, lol bow down to your queen loserz.

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>>733033
Passive aggressive behavior as well.
She’s unbelievably annoying to talk to even when you’re being civil.

No. 733043

>>733041
Damn, I thought that she would at least try to be civil when talking directly to you, guess that was too much to ask.

No. 733045

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Someone is a wee bit upset

No. 733048

>>733043
now i really want cinna to post those DMs she got

No. 733049

>>733045
"pls report it before people see i'm an incompetent, careless asshole"

no doubt when her tween fans see the screenshots they'll just think the artists were being demanding, entitled meanies

No. 733050

>>732827
nta but she's so self-righteous, acts like she's fighting for a noble fuckin cause as if this friendless fujo is dangerous. She's got that FRIENDLY REMINDER tumblr attitude and she's a boring idiot who self-posts for attention for her own shitty art
it matters because she's using material from a board where we are having a laugh at an idiot, and quoting us word for word as if we are writing a police report for her. I'm pretty sure she sent a few autists here inadvertently because after her ~call outs~ no one saged anything for the entire last thread

>>732930
scintillating dialogue lmao

No. 733051

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>>732987
kek that's beautiful

>>733014
no it's yaoi bed, don't read too much into it, she just can't draw.

No. 733053

>>733050
>cinnabani
>she
>her

No. 733054

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just love how condescending our yaoi queen is to young artists
>u guyz are nobodies?? so take your scraps lmao

No. 733056

>>732988
Whichever one of you is doing this needs to cut it the fuck out. Touching the poop doesn't make you cool, especially when you're telling the cow a bunch of old shit they've heard before.

What do people think throwing a bunch of cheese in a cow's face accomplishes?

>>733029
>then I'm sorry?
Nothing says "understanding" like ending an apology with a question mark.

>>733054
Kek

No. 733057

>>733050
she's never posted a link back here or called us by name though. how would she send people here?

No. 733058

>>733053
I'm not sure why you're acting like shes not a girl. are we missing something?

No. 733059

>>733058
ntayrt, but her pronouns are on her twitter. she uses she/her or they/them so anon has no point.

No. 733060

>>733057
That anon s jus sperging to sperg, you can tell by how much effort they put into a non issue lol

No. 733061

>>733059
Anon probably thinks her name is feminine so clarifying your gender is somehow tumblr now.

No. 733062

>>733059
i think the point was "lol tranny/nb." which is besides the point considering everything else.
>>733029
does holly ever turn off her whole passive aggressive attitude off? holy shit, these artists deserve better.

No. 733064

>>733060
yeah i figured, they just seem really pissy over someone being mad at holly.

No. 733065

>>733061
fuck are yous talking about. it's a male - either that or a female that for some reason is a "kill cis scum" trans activist.

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>>733057
referring to lolcow? which means she could be or is leading people here.

No. 733068

>>733065
all this shit about holly's unethical practices and being caught tracing… and you're mad about whether or not some other rando is a woman.
>>733067
back on topic. there is now zero doubt that she visits lolcow.

No. 733069

>>733065
>>733053
on her youtube you can hear her fuckin voice she clearly is a girl what is this argument lol

>>733060
snort. it took me all of one minute to clarify what I thought about the situation, you dink

I just want us to stop giving someone who is just slapping BRown udders attention. She provides nothing. We are not here to call holly out because that is not funny. We are not internet police.

No. 733074

I think that who ever is sharing the discord screen shots, was a zine artist or, is doing this on behalf of one of them… Either way holly is going to want that evidence gone but it's too fuckin late. It can be tough to flag down a Twitter acct. Impersonating someone else isn't the smartest idea though…

No. 733078

>>733065
what are you sperging about

No. 733092

>>733078
just a stray femcel from the gendercrit/man-hater threads

No. 733099

>>732829
>"A lot of people don't understand the repercussions of their mistakes…I do."
That's hilarious.

Honestly it's very depressing knowing that she spent years fucking around in art schools, half-assing her assignments until she was 50k in debt, and then dropping out with all this debt and no degree. She also said before that she quit MCAD because it was too expensive, and now it's because of her mental health?

>>733067
Explains the influx of newfaggotry in her threads.

No. 733109

>>732881
That's pretty much 99% of what most artist advice me when there talking about art school, not just holly

No. 733110

>>733092
someones butthurt

sage 4 no contribute

No. 733112

>>733110
Anon is making an objective observation not being offended or defensive jus sayin

No. 733114

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https://tapas.io/episode/1241291
Is everyone done being edgy and angry? Because there's new Purgatory pages up. Apparently she's almost at the finale.

No. 733120

>>733110
back to your containment thread, shoo.

>>733114
>almost at the finale
there is literally no way for her to cohesively close this story. it's going to be the most hamfisted attempt at a finale possibly ever. i see it going 2 ways: everyone confronts atari and dies because he nominates them for solstice or whatever, or simon's dad confronts atari and he kills himself and simon is sad 4 ever, fade to black as they leave the city.

No. 733128

>>733114
"litterally"
"If you love us you'll come with us" < jus bad writing

No. 733130

>>733114
can someone post? I'm on my phone

No. 733131

>>733114
it’s kind of sad to see that this is technically like the 2nd or 3rd draft of purgatory and it’s somehow worse (at least imo) than the earlier ones/concepts. when other comic artists re-do a concept that they first came up with when they were younger, the final draft is usually pretty good and shows an amazing level of improvement when compared to the very beginning.

tbh i really thought purgatory had an interesting premise before reading it. has the secret mlm relationship in a religious setting idea been done to hell and back? yeah, sure, but more worldbuilding could have made it stand out more (if there had ever been any).

No. 733134

>>733112
ntayrt But you sound like you're just that anon defending themselves in the third person. There's no objective observation on their part

No. 733140

File: 1542366191531.png (169.85 KB, 387x395, firefox_2018-11-16_13-48-31.pn…)

>>733114
I'll never understand how she can look at these and think "yup, that's good enough".

No. 733145

File: 1542367197247.png (26.16 KB, 965x194, pf.png)

Pretending to be humble and apologetic must really be painful for Holly, huh? Already back to her bad bitch shtick, like a true queen.

No. 733153

File: 1542369147118.jpg (104.14 KB, 1080x603, IMG_20181116_125122.jpg)

lmao this motherfucker straight up floating

No. 733156

>>733153
>if you love us you'll come with us
>except I'm making you come with us anyway so this little guilt trip is pointless

and why is Simon so upset to leave??

No. 733157

File: 1542371356407.png (391.2 KB, 1080x603, 1.png)

>>733153

I really do love all the weird hand poses Holly incorporates into her comics. I think this one is new, though.

No. 733166

File: 1542373321385.jpeg (49.92 KB, 640x379, E9DC753B-C765-42BE-925C-750A11…)

Someone literally had a different artist’s urls under their name. The person in question even posted a screenshot of the incorrect credits and said what she had put down in the form Holly had us fill out. It was just their “username(dot com)”, said they did this to make it super easy for her not to fuck up, and then she fucked it up anyways and then blamed them for it. When called out on it “she did the spacing wrong” but their website url wasn’t even there on the page or even the book.

No. 733169

>>733140
How can someone who went to art school think this is ok? If you are going to devote a whole panel to the cup at least make sure the perspective looks ok.

>>733114
I'm kind of impressed Holly stuck to this comic until the end. Purgatory definitely is not a fan favorite when you look at the attention Hollystans give to PP and even CP at this point. It really would have been easy for Holly to drop Purgatory and focus on other things but she stuck through it. So congrats Holly for almost finishing your first full length comic. I hope the next one goes better.

No. 733170

File: 1542373980334.png (42.69 KB, 720x343, finale.png)

>>733166
Why can't she just say "shit I fucked up, I'm sorry"? It's always someone else's fault.

>>733120
Apparently there are still a lot of pages left but it's still going into the "finale".

I'm 100% sure she decided to cut the story short because she got tired of it.

No. 733172

>>733166
B-b-but it was her first zine, you're so harsh!!! Does she have no shame at all? You'd think she would at least be nice to you when you're speaking directly to her, even if she's "venting" very publicly about it when you're not there to defend yourself.

No. 733175

>>733172
I mean it would’ve been really nice if she didn’t go on stream with TD and spew garbage about the people in the zine.

I’m probably going to leak the PDF of the full zine she supplied to us.

No. 733178

>>733175
That seems pretty fair considering she's clearly done with trying to fix the issues and giving a shit about the zine in general, still haven't gotten over those botched copies tbh.

No. 733180

>>733054
It's beautiful how, in her mind, the zine gets downgraded because it has lesser known people in it, rather than elevated for being done by her - really shows how selfish her mind works.

No. 733183

>>733175
first get back on her ass about promoting it, she's dropped out of school now plenty of time to make books

No. 733184

This is weird as fuck but looks like Holly deleted the zine tumblr page and when you go to the URL on google you get a bunch of porn pop ups and on tumblr it says the blog doesn’t exist.
She do that on purpose so we couldn’t have a true list of the artists??? Cause it costs nothing for her to keep it up. It’s tumblr.

No. 733188

the whole thing could be avoided if she wasn't an arrogant ass and decided her first zine had to be 100 pages long.

but she didn't do her fucking research and now she cries because it's a lot of work? You made up the fucking rules, Holly.

No. 733196

Here is the “print file” for the book that she supplied us with.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HOmR8TxpHZ9I0SWGMndYRnB-3_Hle8Ip

No. 733207

File: 1542379469360.jpg (415.19 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20181116-084434_Tum…)


No. 733213

>>733207
If that's what hard-working and amazing skill looks like I want to stay mediocre for the rest of my life.
The "great storyteller" gave me the rest.
But good to know her fans don't care if their queen uses shady techniques or scams them on Patreon, natural selection I guess.

No. 733216

>>733196
Is it just me or do look most of the pictures kinda de-saturated? It's unbelievable how most of the artwork still looks miles better than Hollys piece (it's like hers wasn't even made for the challenge)

Are there pages missing or are many of the artists not even credited on the back? Not that it matters, since no picture can be placed with any name anyways.

No. 733217

File: 1542381353977.png (4.14 MB, 2353x2007, professional autist.png)

god i wish she actually traced for her comics, because these are just terrible

No. 733218

>>733216
Some artists dropped out so she didn’t put them in. Some artists are credited and were paid, but their work isn’t in the book.
We don’t even know who’s who or what’s what cause she fucked the tumblr page that had the list of ALL the artists.

No. 733219

>>733217
Oh, please make this lovely mess the next thread pic

No. 733220

>>733196
God the color scheme is so ugly, what a waste some of the artists are good too

No. 733229

>>733134
I'm not but please continue to drag this needlessly because someone on the internet dared disagree with you lol

No. 733230

>>733196
Someone needs to back this up since Holly is probably gonna delete it soon.

No. 733240

>>733230
Already downloaded, just for the heck of it

No. 733257

The fake holly on Twitter is claiming the porn blog that replaced the zine blog is run by her but I kind of doubt that, it's common for someone to shut down a blog and for a porn bot to pick up the name afterward and start posting semi realistically to look human.
I mean, shame on her for shutting the zine blog down in the first place, I know she's trying to cover all her tracks and the shop is probably gone too, but she did everyone so dirty regarding the zine that she didn't even give it a proper send off. She just unceremoniously chucked the project because she didn't value the work and efforts of other artists that were perhaps up and coming.

Like, ot and kind of bloggy but That's what pissed me off the most about her bullshit, and I think it's what should have been highlighted more than fucking tracing is how she essentially scammed other artists, told them they weren't shit, sold probably the better looking copies of the zine at a con and they got left with $20 and scraps they can't sell. Then has the nerve to bitch and moan about it every step of the way. Not that I feel bad for the artists for wanting to ride her raggedy coattails but, her lack of integrity on those fronts are what should've set ppl off not fucking tracing alphonse but oh well.

No. 733259

File: 1542388318887.png (251.66 KB, 953x439, americana.png)

>>733217
Her discovering she can just buy backgrounds has been the biggest downgrade yet, also love that you can clearly tell in this screenshot that the bg is modern day Japan when the story takes place in a completely different setting.

No. 733261

>>733196
She didn't even give you a PDF? What a joke.

No. 733263

File: 1542388503766.jpg (50.96 KB, 550x309, mercure-hotel-sapporo.jpg)

>>733259
it's fucken sapporo lmao how embarrassing
it's quite a famous landmark that shitty whiskey sign

No. 733266

>>733259
Sad part is Holly’s backgrounds were probably one of the better parts of her art. I mean they looked super wonky but the still displayed some skill.

No. 733276

File: 1542389863716.png (159.29 KB, 838x648, sozai.png)

>>733217
>>733263
Had a look around and found one of the background packs she purchased, pic related. 18 backgrounds for 13 bucks, a steal, really.

>https://haikeisouko.com/?pid=136522187


They actually have an "overseas" section specifically, so no idea why she used Sapporo.

No. 733285

>>733276
She a weeb fam

No. 733286

The layout and perspective of the backgrounds can be straight up given to her, and yet she still gets proportions on her characters dead wrong.

Also,
>idk i'm pretty good at backgrounds.
-Proceeds to not draw backgrounds.
>idk I'm pretty good at colors.
-proceeds to not use colors.
>guyse it's just faster if I don't do the things I think I'm good at.

If she were good at any of these things, they'd be second nature by now. She'd find quicker ways to make pages than cheap shortcuts.

No. 733300

>>733276
Are these rotatable or just static images? It’s such a waste of money if they are static images. No wonder she’s struggling with money…

No. 733304

File: 1542393170485.jpeg (104 KB, 767x767, 59B847ED-DD33-4AE6-B3A3-DFE88F…)

Oml

No. 733308

>>733300
I'm sure you can guess anon, they're static, and there aren't nearly enough angles to draw a location more than a few times.

No. 733310

File: 1542394183122.png (731.01 KB, 868x880, stompstomprev.png)

>>733217
samefag but i'm having too much fun

No. 733317

>>733310
Looool, the edit in combination with Simon's saggy square butt is great

No. 733319

>>733317
He doesn't even have a butt, he has one leg that separates at the knee kek
Jfc Holly this is awful even for you

No. 733344

File: 1542397444882.png (14.89 KB, 464x203, 69.png)

I seriously adore her fans they're just perpetually confused about why something they love so much sucks so much

No. 733352

File: 1542398653271.png (208.29 KB, 585x255, wut.png)

sorry for doublepost but that is still the comics uh… avatar? Profile picture? Whatever. Anyway, doesn't this bug her? How much they're not the same characters at all?
I think they've kind of swapped personalities. Simon seemed like he was designed to be a 'cool guy' character, like a bit of a jock, class clown. And now he's like a tragic edgy weepy Brian Molko gay.
They're just not the same characters at all, they change to fulfill her uwu of the week.

It's so hard to follow her stories/logic because she thinks making comics is like carpentry or something. "Sure that's not my best set of drawers, but I'm a good carpenter." But it's not like that. The whole point of telling stories is to get an idea across to another person. You have to think about whether or not they are receiving that message. If they are not, it's generally the storyteller's fault, not the audience. Most good stories are universally understood regardless of cultural difference. She must be from some fucked up planet where the citizens don't care what people say or look like, they just enjoy suggestions of vegetative semi-sentience and chimp-like emotional outbursts.

She thinks considering how another person will read it is like compromising her artistic integrity. When she does consider what other people think it will open a floodgate of criticism she'll actually have to listen to for the first time. That's gotta be scary for her.

No. 733358

>>733352
I would join you to shit on her bad writing but honestly with this picture I'm just kinda taken aback by how much artistic progress she's made. Like, sure, she still sucks ass, but not nearly as much as she used to. Milk or not, I'm surprisingly glad she's getting better.

No. 733362

>>733358
It's more of a style change rather than actual improvement

No. 733368

>>733362
That’s what I thought too. Not improving so much as just changing her style and doing other stuff even worse. Like giraffe necks.

No. 733371

>>733169
I still don’t get how it’s finished. Like. Did it have an actual plot other than ‘cute gay little boys and also this one gets raeped’ like what was the purpose.

No. 733373

File: 1542401551033.jpeg (59.79 KB, 500x645, A4F7B78C-9932-48C4-BEF4-549245…)

>>733196
God, the artists in this all seem to be somewhat skilled too. Jfc holly this is embarrassing even for you.

No. 733374

>>733358
I agree it's less eye-burning. It's mainly because she's referencing so much. I'm sure simon's heavily referenced from a kibbitzer base tbh
No problem with that except Kibbitzer makes a big deal about not tracing lol

>>733217
the bodies look like that (top right) so you can see what she references and what she doesn't by how god damn awful what she doesn't reference looks.

No. 733383

File: 1542402885316.jpg (179.11 KB, 1027x561, mirror.jpg)

dis aint even de same

No. 733389

>>733374
Someone should tell kibbitzer tbh

No. 733395

>>733389
I don't think they care tbh. Would they like credit when people trace so their Patreon can grow? Of course. But there stuff is everywhere and traced so I don't think going after for her for this will do anything but embolden her fan base.

No. 733402

>>733196
Is that a joke? Sorry for being OT, but if you guys need someone that can make you a proper printing file let me know, I'm happy to do it for free. She didn't even provide the cover file or anything else, it's ridiculous.

No. 733406

>>733196
Wow, seeing all the images together just highlights how awful the TD image is, and how washed out Holly's piece looks, yikes.

No. 733409

>>733014
I think something along these lines too, most teenagers will be able to understand consent when it’s explained to them but holly has some sort of a deeper blockage there. She might just be a total dick that refuses to own up to her mistakes, but I think there’s a good possibility she really does not understand consent or what she did wrong. We may be “reading into it” but the smallest details in a drawing can reveal a lot about the subconscious.

No. 733410

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No. 733413

>>733410
i like to imagine that's the dialogue for the comic

also he looks like he's rubbing his dong lmao

No. 733417

>>733410
My best friend has chrons, if it's that bad she should either be in hospital asap or she's lying, sorry. Playing the victim card for something this serious is a big no no for me

No. 733424

File: 1542407483987.jpg (71.66 KB, 728x970, Naruto ch 331 pg 8.jpg)

>>733319
I don't think it's that bad. I've seen some manga artists do the same thing were they just draw flat blacks without any shading. I think it kinda works as a stylistic choice in some cases.

No. 733425

>>733424
Compare the two, kakashit, or whoever the fuck that is, got back. Simon has toddler pelvis. It looks like horseshit.
You can't draw silhouettes when you don't know what's inside them. Laziness isn't a stylistic choice.

No. 733426

>>733424
The reasons it's so jarring for Holly's is cuz Simon is moving so it adds to the stiffness. Not to mention the obvious anatomy issues that judg stand out more

No. 733427

>>733424
>>733426
Also the weird highlights really make everything look odd.

No. 733431

>>733425
Yeah, I agree that Holly's panel looks pretty bad I just meant that silhouette drawing isn't inherently a bad thing.

No. 733432

>>733431
And nobody ever wrote that so what's your point

No. 733433

Not sure if y'all have seen this.

No. 733435

>>733410
As a person who has family members that suffer from crohn, I find it hard to believe she has it. When you have crohn, you either eat whatever you want but suffer from being extremely thin, weak, and not growing much. Or you follow a special food diet designed for your symptoms forever.


Following Holly all this long and looking at all the inflammatory food she eats (and she definitely isn't sick-thin), I just can't believe she has it (unless she was medically diagnosed)

And honestly knowing Holly and how she LOVES to milk her illnesses, I would expect her to talk about it more or draw a fucked up comic about it.
Sage for blogpost

No. 733439

>>733435
it's probably anxiety and stress keeping her from eating tbh.

No. 733442

>>733433
Aha on second listen I thought I recognized that voice is this made by thetruthfactory

No. 733468

>>733433
This is old, anon, but it is a reupload. It seems like the original got taken down. Video OP said that the video got struck, but not by Holly, because of the pornhub link, so it was removed.

Can someone archive this so it isn't taken down again forever? Or is it not worthwhile to save?

No. 733485

>>733435
i agree, for sure. i mean, we don’t know every meal she eats or her medical history or anything like that, but self-diagnosis (which is what i assume holly’s done in regards to her supposed crohn’s)…isn’t really all that reliable, especially when it’s someone like her. she may use the excuse that she can’t afford to go to the doctor or something if someone asks her whether or not she’s actually been diagnosed, but shouldn’t she have Medicaid or something like that to cover just one visit/check-up at least? (though she may require more to figure out what exactly is going on with her body)

No. 733553

>>733263
>>733276
Here's what I don't get: why can't she just do this with her own photos?

It's common for comic artists and mangaka to take their own photos of buildings and trace/edit them for backgrounds. That way, your backgrounds are quick and easy, but also 100% original and 100% yours.

Plus, you can take tons of pictures in one location if it's a frequent setting in your comic.

>>733140
The way she draws wood drives me nuts, because it's overly detailed to the point of being distracting.

The amount of detail on something should be relative to its importance. For instance, a face needs detail so viewers can identify the person and read the expression. Background objects like carpet, bushes, wood etc only need the minimum amount of detail necessary for people tl identify them as such. You don't need to draw every leaf on a tree if the tree is sn irrelevant background object.

Similarly, we don't need this much detail on a wooden table because the table is just a setpiece.

No. 733564

>>733553
>why can't she just do this with her own photos?
Cause she doesn't go outside? But really, the lack of effort for the thing she apparently likes doing (does she?) is baffling.

No. 733571


No. 733584

File: 1542439783875.png (234.35 KB, 1821x502, 2018-11-17_012819.png)

is social blade glitching out again ?

No. 733585

File: 1542439887391.png (120.68 KB, 1289x806, 2018-11-17_013018.png)


No. 733586

>>733584
She might be deleting videos, usually when a content creator has that its either 1.they are unlisting or deleting videos or 2.they got demonetized
or 3.Social blade is acting up as usual
i would bet either 1 or 3 tbh

No. 733603

>>732829
>>733433

wait wait wait, hold your horses ladies and gents
Could it be that we finally have proof? That she never got accepted into CalArts?
She doesn't mention it even once in her drop out video, and I'm sure it would be wort mentioning, since she wants to give out (questionable) advice and recites her whole school resumee

No. 733613

>>733435
For what it's worth, she's claimed she has a "super mild" form of it and that's why she never mentions it (except for when she does, of course).

>>733584
>>733586
Negative views are from deleting/unlisting videos, it's not the site glitching.

No. 733619

File: 1542447264966.jpg (521.05 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20181117-033323_You…)

Found this gem

No. 733621

>>733619
>She's dumb as fuck and can't communicate, her life is clearly shit but omg don't be mean or she might commit sudoku!! :(
With fans like that, you don't need "haters".

No. 733640

>>733619
I suspect the majority of the people who defend her do so because they feel sorry for her. That's why I did in the past.

No. 733661

>>733603
I mean she claims she got accepted but she never claimed she went so I don't see why she would include it in the video. Of course everyone knows she didn't get in but not including it isn't some piece of undeniable fact.

No. 733685

Looks like chroma prince had a two page update. Any patreon anons?

No. 733701

>>733685
i'm the usual patreon anon, i posted pages 10 and 11 and that's all i'm seeing on my end. i'm pretty sure she already missed updating a day (again, so much for 2 pages daily)

No. 733723

>>733571
pls b my friend no homo

No. 733746

File: 1542476490186.jpg (159.73 KB, 1200x800, how u do.jpg)


No. 733772

>>733619
I don't think they said "ya'll" enough times.

No. 733796

>>733661
But wouldn't it make sense for her to mention it at least? After all she claimed she only didn't go because it cost too much, but now she's in debt anyways
And she's not someone to hold back when there's a chance for bragging, so it would have been a perfect fit for this video

No. 733829

>>733796
sure but that's called vague indirect weak evidence, not PROOFS, okay?

No. 733830

>>733829
That's why it was formatted as a question, not a statement

No. 733831

>>733796
Honestly I don't think anybody believes Holly got into Calart. As long as she doesn't bring it up/show it off then there really isn't any reason to discuss it.

No. 733884

File: 1542499067322.png (371.28 KB, 445x772, idk.png)


No. 733891

>>733884
the perspective is so off on those drawings, ugh…If she had a dollar for every time she said, “idk”, she’d be a fucking millionaire by now.

No. 733912

>>733884
She really can't keep anything to herself, can she? Instead of deciding on her own (if she maybe needs a break after all) she wants to hear the sweet, sweet worship of her goonies compelling her to upload her self-titled 'shit' and show them mean haters that she won't be brought down

No. 733913

>>733884
It's a bit shocking that, after all these years, her linework is still so shit - she still does chicken scratch for every little pictures, which shows how little confidence she has in her craft

No. 733924

>>733884
I'm actually shocked at how awful this looks. Holly was somewhat ok at observational drawing (like her candy painting), this looks flat, perspective and proportions off, and the shading makes no sense. Tracing and her increased use of stock backgrounds and other shortcuts have regressed her drawing ability

No. 733948

>>733924
Can't say I'm surprised… I don't think she's cared about the quality of her work for some time now. She's deluded herself into believing she does but overtime she's definitely lost whatever drives her. It's just what can make her money now. Her work, every single thing she puts out…

Is joyless.
At least that's how I've been seeing it.

No. 734041

>>733948
it’s kinda depressing, but it’s her own fault. she never should have went to art school if she wasn’t going to take the lessons seriously, and now she’s further stressed and depressed by being 50+k in debt w/ nothing to show for it except for very minute improvements in her art. (possibly??? i mean, i can’t really tell, but she had to have gotten a little bit better at some aspect after drawing for so many yrs, in the drawings where she wasn’t tracing or copying stock photos at least.)

No. 734089

>>733948
Of course it's joyless, just look at how she works. She deliberately overworks herself, what's the point of sketching random shit when she has three comics to work on, one of which is supposed to update two pages a day? She's clearly not studying form, there are no guidelines or anything. She wastes endless time and energy doing extra projects instead of focusing on making one decent thing.

No. 734127

>>734089
does it count as overworking if she doesn't actually do any of the work? lmao

No. 734128

>>734127
You're right, she constantly tells everyone how hard-working she is (which is suspicious already) but barely has anything to show for it. I doubt she spends as much time drawing as she'd like to believe she does

No. 734164

File: 1542548267989.jpg (626.81 KB, 1600x2443, 12Chroma.jpg)


No. 734171

>>734164

Her writing and pacing is awful.

No. 734172

>>734164
the yaoi clichee is strong in this one - can she write tops that aren't constantly angry as hell?

No. 734175

>>734164
The lines on their arms are infuriating. I really don't understand what is she trying to outline there.

No. 734176

>>734175
Saaaaaame

It's so confusing, all of her precious animes have normally outlined muscles why can't she copy that lmao

No. 734177

>>734164
his hand is hanging off the bed and the pillows are close to him but then in the next panel the bed is yuge and he's lying in the center? what is consistency?

No. 734181

>>734177
its like an injoke for herself "i did the bed thing" >>733051
like how she writes b o y s e x or whatever on the spines of the books in the background

No. 734183

>>734089
Actually it’s probably a good idea for her to do more drawings from life like this. Sure it looks a little off but Holly will learn much faster drawing from life.

>>734175
I thought she was trying to outline muscle too but now I’m starting to think the lines might be some sort of shading divide? Like the were meant to be a guide for where she needed to put the screen tones but then she just leaves it blank cause she liked the ‘aesthetic’?

>>734164
I just love the yaoi bed here.

No. 734228

>>734164
This seme guy reminds me too much of armored skeptic. I doubly do not want to see holly draw him and her bishi "beef boi" fuck.
How long until she draws a porn comic of them? Strangely holly keeps pretty quiet about this comic, but she obsessively talks about the characters in paranormal plague.

No. 734240

>>734228
It's probably the same with all of her 'side-projects' - she has a random idea and decides to make money off of it, but PP is where she pours her heart and soul into (doesn't mean it would ever be good, but she really seems to enjoy her universe to the fullest)

No. 734250

>>734164
these characters are so fucking ugly?? the elf dude looks like an alcoholic stepdad and the other guy might as well be a chick.
who wants to see these 2 fuck?

No. 734273

>>734164

Why does she randomly flip her seme character if he hasn't once faced left? Did he just turn his back to Oats for a second to say "oh my god"?
The 180 rule is just lost on her, always, even for the simplest compositions. And I stfg those arm lines do not = muscles.Like, why is his neck thicker than his arms.
And she's got this weird obsession with sticking a single pinkie finger out when a character is holding something or have their hands bunched together.

No. 734275

>>734164
Not sure what’s worse, the four fingered hands in panel 2 and 3 or the ridiculously poorly drawn arm I’m panel 3 with the comically small hand to match kek

No. 734277

>>734164
Anyone else put off by how happy this slave boy is about being a slave? It’s just weird and bad writing.

No. 734278

>>734275
Her thumbs are also almost always look twisted and wrong.

No. 734279

>>734277
it's stockholm syndrome duh /s

No. 734351

File: 1542573886123.jpg (8.78 KB, 236x314, 7c97a8953876c9f3e638861a0b372d…)

>>734164

how do I bent arms desu ka?

No. 734361

File: 1542575988904.jpg (57.34 KB, 344x298, gotobread.jpg)

>>734164
he so stocky

No. 734364

>>734164
Her characters just HAVE to touch their faces like 80% throughout the comic (not to mention her illustrations)

No. 734366

>>734164

damn i want a bed that big

No. 734367

>>734164
2nd panel : Left hand on face, facing right
4th panel : Right hand on face, facing left

4th panel : sitting on bed
6th panel : sitting up(?)

Did she look at her page and asked herself if that made any sense??? For how long has she been drawing comics? She doesn't even know the basics, that's sad.

No. 734371

>>734164
Is there an upload of all the pages of that comic so far? I'd like to see how bad it is.

No. 734374

>>734164
they are spread throughout the threads, since patreon anon posts them here whenever she uploads them - but don't worry, you haven't missed important plot details so far, I assure you

No. 734376

File: 1542577525507.jpg (624.81 KB, 1280x898, file_a182a8a42a_original.jpg)

I guess even the she stuff sells isn't even worth the effort nowadays, it seems

No. 734381

>>734376
It's never not weird when Holly tries to go for a cutesy aesthetic. Sidenote and tinfoil: Ever since that "I'm so feminine how could anyone think that I'm a lesbian??? :("-comment it just feels like some kind of overcompensation, that might be a bit harsh though.

No. 734387

>>734376

I've never seen someone make so much product for characters no one gives a shit about.

No. 734392

>>734381
Wait what? She said that? That's kind of funny - there's nothing wrong with being a tomboy/masculine girl but like, Holly really doesn't come off as feminine at all. No makeup, hair is a rat's nest, overall kind of grimy (those nails).

>>734376
I actually think the cards are kind of cute…if the charms were actually handmade and not bulkordered from AliExpress I don't think it'd be bad merch really.

No. 734394

>>734392
The problem isn't technically the idea of making merch (or even the goddamn random bloodbags), but rather making merch for a universe that still mostly exists exclusively in her head

No. 734404

>>734394
That, and the fact that she couldn't be bothered to proofread it

>loose interest


just…come on. I swear she's got a learning disability.

No. 734406

>>734376

She might sell a few of these, then still be left with a shit ton of those bloodbags (that she impulse bought) to collect dust in her junky room.

This isn't even thematic to the comic as near as we can tell. She hasn't really given anyone an incentive to buy anything or given anyone a reason to care about them in the actual comic.

She basically just keeps spoiling it because she cant keep her mouth shut about certain elements of the story. it was much worse when she had a twitter; she was a nonstop flood in 'random tidbits' about PP.

No. 734408

>>734376
“loose” is it bad that i immediately look for the guaranteed spelling or grammar mistake(s) in her posts.

No. 734411

>>734406
to be fair we don't know whether or not the charms would tie in thematically with the story or not since there's less than 10 pages of it in existence :^)

No. 734412

>>734392
It's not an exact quote or anything, but she was salty/sad about getting hit on by women at conventions and said that since she had pink hair she must seem feminine and therefore straight (?) Just some good ol' BRown logic

No. 734418

File: 1542580433424.jpg (19.66 KB, 635x320, Ut3w9ig.jpg)

>>734412
Has she never heard of femme lesbians? In what universe does pink hair mean a girl is straight??? Has she never heard of dangerhairs? I don't even know where to start with this. I just…

No. 734420

>>734228
Anon this is the porn comic. They're definitely going to fuck.

No. 734422

>>734418
No idea, dude. She's not super familiar with gay terms even when it comes to men though, so I guess that would be a lot to ask of her

No. 734423

>>734406
>>734411
I've never seen an intro to a story be more vague than Holly's PP pitch:
>Paranormal Plague is a world dominated by monsters, called Paranormals. Herschel and Ash use this as an opportunity to investigate.

Maybe she'll write that each person's blood type affects the power they have/paranormal entity they'll be.

Reading the pages that she has up, the story already doesn't have a steady plot. Ash and Herschel are paranormal investigators, but this is a world where the news stations openly acknowledge the existence of these paranormal entities.
Why wouldn't Ash and Herschel have steady government jobs (like Scully and Mulder in the X-files), and why would Princess show such skepticism that they can heal paranormals?

Actually, PP is probably just a sad knock-off of X-files, isn't it?

No. 734429

>>734387
If she made the products that would be weird as fuck but instead she is ordering them in bulk from Chinese slave labor factories pretending somehow it's related to her lame-ass characters. It's ridiculous that she made those cards though.

No. 734430

>>734423
if their bloodtypes affect their powers she's taking her fucking sweet-ass time to explain that. Or anything really.

No. 734432

>>734418
She called her fans "savage" when they said Damien looks like a lesbian with his short hair. Apparently "lesbian" means "ugly woman" to holly

No. 734434

File: 1542582412724.jpg (119.87 KB, 1155x633, w2.JPG)

sage for old stuff, but I was re watching a sketchbook video and what happened to her ability to shade things?

No. 734438

File: 1542582979108.jpg (364.25 KB, 940x1435, 13Chroma.jpg)


No. 734439

File: 1542583034507.jpg (697.94 KB, 1600x2443, 14Chroma.jpg)


No. 734444

she draws the saddest butts ever

No. 734446

>>734439
dem sexy legs with different lengths - yum

also, the perspective is as atrocious as ever

No. 734447

>>734439
Besides the fact that this is the least sexy thing she could have drawn here, why is this grown-ass angry military man flustered just from seeing a dude shower?

No. 734449

>>734447
right, he's blushing like a 16 year old maiden, but enters the bathroom on his own accord - it's like a typical yaoi trope, but withou actually showcasing any personality

No. 734450

>>734439
why is the shower slanted? I don't understand why the boy would be on an angle like that. Is this intentional or an accident?

No. 734451

>>734434
while miles better than what she does now, i wouldn't really call it 'good' - not to mention the anatomical mistakes, which are mostly there, because for some reason she always has to bring her comic style into her studies

No. 734452

>>734450
…let's pretend Holly could actually do better, shall we?
(jokes aside, I don't think she has any concept of perspective and how it works in comics)

No. 734456

>>734438
"I'll be back at the hotel" why not just say "I'll be back in a minute"? Obviously he's going to come back there… Saging for nitpick, but the writing is so bad

No. 734462

>>734439
>>734438
Doesn't the elf dude have the same haircut as damien now?

No. 734463

>>734439

>He must be in the bath, let me go check just in case he might not be in the bath, even though I can clearly hear water running.


>HE'S IN THE SHOWER NAKED TAKING A SHOWER JFC USE THE CURTAIN BLUSH BLUSH UWU

No. 734468

>>734439 What are those random lines in the middle of their hands suppose to be? Muscle?

No. 734473

>>734439

It's like someone took a cardboard cut out and leaned it against a shower wall.

No. 734475

>>734468
probably the knuckes - but since Holly drew Yaoi fanart during her few live classes on anatomy she doesn't quite know where to place them

No. 734476

can she just… stop..

No. 734479

did she delete her tumblr?

No. 734480

>>734476
one of the videos that make me feel bad for her again - it's really up and down, isn't it? Tomorrow she will shit on others again and shove her 'hard working' ass into everyones face, but today she is defeated, depressed and calls for advice

No. 734481

>>734479
jup. my guess is depression is hitting her hard now (no money, no degree, the whole drama atm…)

No. 734483

>>734476
How is she so arrogant while putting herself down????

She needs to learn when to shut up. The real problem with Holly is that she just talks confidently about things that she doesn't know anything about.

>its hard to criticize when you are not perfect


then don't?? You have no grounds to be criticizing other artists.

At least she realizes nothing in her channel is constructive. I wonder if she's finally going to turn around that attitude.

No. 734484

>>734483

I wouldn't hold her to it.

No. 734485

>>734476
Scrolling through the comments, it's her 'granies' that want her to stay who she is - kinda sad, they are literally chanting 'stay the salty fujo, we love it!'
No wonder she keeps doing the same shit over and over again

No. 734488

>>734483
she said this weird thing the other month, it was kind of like "I heard that if you're going to suggest something, you should argue it really forcefully". As in, that is the proper, considerate way to talk. I don't know if what she heard was about not equivocating or smth, but the way she's interpreted it is pretty much the source of all her woes lol

No. 734497

>>734476

I kind of think this is sad, but also, this is like the third video where she throws herself a pity party.

Where she fucks up is she keeps making these videos where she KNOWS her fanbase will stan her bullshit no matter what. She seeks the attention and approval of people she knows already likes her. I don't think she's honestly looking for critique, it's just another way to get people to feel sorry for her.

The last thing she needs to be doing is looking to make another channel to start over. She needs to take a serious break FIRST, or she'll just keep making these simpering, pitiful videos over and over again so that her echo chamber can constantly coo and dote on her.

No. 734506

>>734497
Genuinely felt bad for her, then I realized she only liked the comments which kissed her ass and none of the critiques sprinkled inbetween

No. 734511

>>734497
A break would be great, but sadly I doubt it - for once she must be so used to getting daily positive, even overly positive feedback that without it her non existant self confidence might hit her really hard.
Second, without her channel she is basically broke (since we know she has no savings) and the people reading and buying her stuff would dwindle to nothing in no time. Especially now, where she basically erased all of her other profiles

No. 734512

>>734439
'Oats' is so off balance it hurts.

No. 734515

>>734476
Did Holly learn nothing from deleting her instagram?

No. 734516

File: 1542593082786.png (164.83 KB, 512x512, photo_2018-09-29_18-08-52.png)

>>734439
It's so over the top and ugly I can't stop looking at it.

No. 734521

>>734476
why does she call her fans grannies when they're like, 11

No. 734523

>>734521

bcuz the bad SWJs criticized poor holly for saying bad stuff, and to remind herself to be extra extra mindful of her words, she switched to calling them grannies, isn't she so speshul uwu /s

No. 734526

>>734521
Cause calling them sluts was met with criticism (can't imagine why) and there's obviously no third option

No. 734528

>>734476

i mean, she could take her videos down, if it bothers her so much that she's profiting off of people… hatewatching her content? watching content SHE hates?

>>i learned a lot about posting online. like what you should say, what you shouldn't say


this may be just me, but that rubbed me the wrong way? bc i didn't hear it as 'i am sorry i hurt people, i want to do better', but as 'i'm gonna do this so i can make more money'. which, okay, if she stops spewing harmful bs that way, i guess it's a win, but still.

>>i know people think i'm a manipulative asshole


i keep crossing my fingers that one day, ONE DAY, she will keep this self-deprecating bs to herself. but that's never gonna happen, is it?
ppl think you are manipulative bc your actions are, holly. you get criticized and you make two videos where it sounds like you just finished crying. you post a comic with your depression spiral thoughts telling you to kill yourself. you're manipulating ppl that have valid criticisms of you into feeling bad about voicing them and riling up your army of underage stans so they will protect you/drown out the "bad voices". (this is by far not the first or only time she's done this. see: complaining about her stress/how bad she feels around whateveritwascon when ppl were pushing to finally get their zine orders, plus other instances of this in the past)

No. 734538

I use to defend her until recently. (I was even in the previous thread being roasted)
I found her awhile back from the overblending video and not knowing digital art I just agreed. I can’t believe I actually liked her and her art when a year later I’m better? Like the amount of beginner mistakes she makes in her art is beyond pathetic. Who’s buying her stuff? How is she making money besides YouTube? Her fans are literally making better art than her and her butt buddy TD. Someone really needs to take all of her art supplies and just give her a pad of paper and charcoal with some anatomy books

No. 734544

Holly honey those videos don't make you look like an asshole
Its because you where and still can be a huge asshole

No. 734557

>>734438
I can't stop staring at the penis bread.

No. 734563

>>734557

I kept looking at the bread, wondering what her obsession is with hot cross buns. It's either baguettes or hot cross buns.

No. 734564

>>734563
phallic breaaaads

she's obsessed with them. she needs to get laid, like, yesterday.

No. 734573

>>734506
She actually did heart some critical comments, though.

No. 734578

>>734564

not to WK but Can we dead the 'needs to get laid' bullshit that's constantly thrown at her? It's borderline creepy and not anyone's business. She says and draws stupid shit having to do with sex but the notion of 'needing' to get laid to fix her problems is such a shit argument. Quit trying to be an armchair shrink.

No. 734579

>>734576

That's because it was in the last thread.

No. 734592

>>734578
I agree, I think it's getting a little OTT. Sex won't fix her, guys. Relax.

No. 734620

File: 1542614604334.jpg (212.22 KB, 1280x960, tumblr_pi84ukMlt61wru95a_1280.…)

Saw this on tumblr, seems some people still want to talk about it, but are staying anon about it.

No. 734628

>>734620
Wish a zine artist would make a video or tumblr callout about the zine. Ripping people off and disrespecting other artists' work and time is 10x worse than tracing an anime screenshot imo the more time passes, the more people won't give a shit anymore…

No. 734647

>>734578
yeah sorry, it was more of a joke than an actual criticism, my b

No. 734648

File: 1542622072754.png (421.02 KB, 446x756, p.png)


No. 734650

>>734648
i like the concept but that plate and everything on it is on a whole other plane of existance.

No. 734654

>>734648
Godm i can see the look on Hershels face anymore - it's ALWAYS these goddamn eyebrows

No. 734655

File: 1542623004474.png (184.88 KB, 446x394, what have you done.png)

>>734648
Sage for redline but. God what the fuck is wrong with his right arm…. His elbow can't be that low Holly please

No. 734664

>>734648
Holly could use a refresher on oberservational drawing.
As for the subject I can see what Holly is doing here as a way to comfort herself. Being that Ash is sort of a self insert and Holly has stated her attraction to Hershel before.

No. 734673

File: 1542627695313.png (355.3 KB, 439x601, in case anyone was interested.…)

Warped the image because I was curious to see what it looked like without the perspective.

No. 734680

>>734476
Did she delete all her social media? I can't find her IG either.

Holly really needs to learn how to breathe and think shit through before making public statements. She just says shit, then gets mad when people criticize her and responds before she calms down with even more dumb shit. I'm not sure if I buy her sudden self-flagellating "Omg guys, I hate my channel too, I hate acting like this, and my art sucks anyway!", but either way I feel kinda bad for her because she's terribly socialized, has no tact and is pretty much an asshole, but she's also clearly going through a major existential crisis right now and is just not equipped to deal with it.

No. 734683

File: 1542629715466.png (334.07 KB, 436x598, Untitled.png)

>>734654
here you go
you can really tell that the whole head is sized just to fit those eyebrows

No. 734685

>>734673
I swear to god Ive seen this exact composition in some anime promo image. I'll try to find if .

No. 734691

File: 1542630888983.png (40.14 KB, 176x138, alien noggin.png)

(sage for redline) this dude a straight up alien

No. 734692

>>734691
that looks like a fucking habbo hotel character

No. 734695

>>734648
Is Ash's hand going behind (or though) the plate she's reaching for??? Did Holly mess up or is Ash trying to grope Hershel's arm?

No. 734698

>>734695
she didnt want to draw her hand lol

No. 734701

>>734664
sorry holly he's gay

No. 734703

>>734698
Isn't hiding hands because you're not confident enough to draw them what a damn 12 year old would do?
I'm getting serious 1st time submitting to dA vibes from this.
If you almost exclusively draw humans, how the fuck are you not pushing yourself to draw the things you have problems with or can't? How can you ever possibly expect to grow when you do such counterintuitive things? It screams "I have no confidence in my art or skills".

No. 734707

File: 1542633008195.jpg (68.94 KB, 646x351, monster.jpg)

>>734691
lol
remember her most viewed video is her 'correcting' tetsuo from akira's big forehead

No. 734711

>>734703
It makes pretty obvious how 'professional' she is - if you look through any of her comics it's easy to realize how she avoids going out of her comfort zone by trying things like new perspectives etc.
The hand thing is pre-school level though

No. 734720

File: 1542636323391.png (438.29 KB, 563x753, crop.png)

>>734673
you warped it too much (it looks squished)

No. 734739

>>734720
Wtf is ash doing with her index finger??

No. 734754

>>734739
She's being 'fancy'

No. 734775

Honesty holly could have avoided making the tracing thing a big deal if she had just address it on Twitter.
But no brown begins brown had to make a big deal out of it heralef then throw a piss fit when someone else does to.
If anything brown ended up shooting herself in the foot with these woes is me type videos.
Her fans ate it up to.
Still find it funny that Alphonse guy has more views than her apology videos and there's nothing brown can do about it.
Besdies play the victim
Browns not going to change shell be back to the old brown soon enough and make a new twitter ect.

No. 734784

I´m actually very curious if she´ll be able to steer clear of drama in the future

No. 734814

>>734784
Lol no way. This isnt the tirst time shes tried to clean up her image. Even if she deleted the old controversial videos, if u put something on the internet it never goes away. People have copies of her videos. She cant live this down because she honestly fucked it up herself

No. 734841

>>734439

how they gonna fug when oats's asscheeks are glued together???

No. 734860

>>734841
that's why he's in the shower, gotta wash off the glue!

No. 734944

>>734841
well his knees are also glued together, typical drill sergeant shower pose

No. 734945

Sometimes I really wonder what her fans are gaining by watching her - I'm not talking about her artwork or tutorials, but really how often she blantantly basks in her own negative emotions.
She doesn't work against them, doesn't encourage anybody since she's always failing herself. I realized that after i tried to fully watch a few of her videos for the past 2 days )after abstaining for 2 years) and I felt SO thrown back into my shitty highschool life, and questioned myself again since that was waht she would constantly do.
I THAT really something 'inspiring', as so many people claim it is?

No. 734957

>>734945
It's not inspiring - it's relatable. Most of Holly's diehard fans are either very similar to her, very young of very impressionable (bonus points for all three) so that kind of explains why they are drawn to her. Despite saying that she's "not good at the talking uwu" Holly is pretty good at getting people on her side, it seems.

No. 734985

>>734164
The yaoi beds get bigger with each page. By the end, Holly will zoom out to reveal that the whole planet was a giant bed.

No. 734999

>>734957
it probably helps that she always frames things in a way that places her as "just a person who's trying to get her shit together and nobody's giving her a break".
After all, everybody loves an underdog

No. 735002


No. 735006

>>735002
oh boy here we go

No. 735008

>>735006
Why is she even putting in her opinions? Does she have angry issues and terrible art to fixed?

No. 735011

>>735002
Lol who is this child again?

No. 735057

>>735008
the only use this will have is if Holly comments and makes an even bigger ass of herself.

No. 735058

>>735002
The amount of times she keeps saying "idc about this situation" is annoying. She's too edgy honestly. I mean im glad Holly is getting called out, but I feel like Cinna is just milking for revenue and views at this point, with this pointless video.

No. 735062

>>735058
Creepshow is not Cinna.

No. 735076

>>735062
I'm just wtf'ing at them thinking this is cinna, they sound nothing alike and their styles are pretty different too.

No. 735077

>>735002
How can she say she has no stake in this and then give her 2 cents? Gotta get that ad revenue~ I guess.

No. 735083

>>735002
This bitch is fucking obnoxious and her art is worse than Holly's. Why are the most mediocre artists popular on youtube?

No. 735086

>>735083
because kids love edgelords with attainable art goals.

No. 735094

>>735086
This. Kids and teenagers like artists who are easy to emulate. I don't even think it's intentional- it just what kids tend to do on the internet.

No. 735096

>>735002


Anyone with any sense, with a name and worth their salt in the youtube art community, isn't wasting their time making a fucking video about spoiled Holly milk.

Like, I guess this is creepshow's way of desperately staying relevant, but I swear she was a holly stan not that long ago in another video.
Also, d'angelo subbing her channel just because she referenced his video, means he ain't shit either. He basically made the same type of video walking back on what he said about holly. He didn't 'drag her'. He criticized her but then softened the blow.
Creepshow?
Irrelevant. Like no one gives a shit about her edgy opinion. She definitely cares though, enough to make a seven minute video. What is she, 15?

No. 735118

File: 1542693642118.png (232.45 KB, 615x572, 1486333566923.png)

I found this while trolling through /IC/ archives for Meet The artist and I can't get over it. I know it's probably been posted in a thread before but I'm losing my mind.

The (likely a lie) AB- blood type, the rarest in the world

hates: lazy artists

The whole deal with her self portrait. It's all so bad I don't even know what to look at. It's so fucking ugly.

No. 735124

File: 1542694748140.jpg (144.19 KB, 1302x574, Download.jpg)

Not sure if this was mentioned already, but did you see that she lowered the price on her ugly kiki piece? Noone´s gonna buy it anyway, Holly

No. 735129

File: 1542695201696.jpg (115.24 KB, 1202x319, Download (1).jpg)

Fresh Milk coming in soon. Cinna joined the artists´discord

No. 735131

>>735129
ah, based zine-artist-anon returns. I look forward to the milk.

No. 735136

>>735118
>type: AB-

weird flex but ok. like no one cares about blood type except a doctor giving a blood transfusion.

>>735129
oh boy

No. 735138

File: 1542698223727.png (18.68 KB, 292x313, 97645087fb7cb957471367239244e2…)

Once again, beautifully playing the victim.

No. 735141

>>735138
>idk being online used to be the most fun part of my life now it's a burden and scary
Jfc, it used to be fun because no one clapped back, I guess. Scary? Oh no, people are criticising me for saying fucked up things, taking advantage of smaller artists and being a huge bully overall, that's so toxic!

No. 735144

>>735129
What a strange position to put yourself in…to be the public face of someone else's drama/obvious farmer. She really wants those virtue points so bad she might as WELL make a whole ass Holly video at this point. Do it. Strike while the iron's hot, Cinna, lmao.

Also, who is Zepie? Is this a fake name? I'm assuming so.

No. 735147

>>735138

>I realize since I use my real name–


You are just now realizing this, Holly? I mean. Not that it'dve done you any good, it isn't hard to match a name or a face to people over the internet anymore. And it's hard to mistake your art for anyone elses' that's for damn sure.

Remember when she tried to get lolcow pages to stop being the first google search results if you put her name in? it's too late. It's either these pages or the author with the same name lmao.

No. 735148

>>735138
it would be good for her to get an actual job that forces her to interact with the real world.

No. 735150

>>735144
Probably someones username.

No. 735153

>>735138
tbh I think this is a good decision. Getting a job and going outside should help her. Being a 24/7 hermit stuck in your room is really not good for your mental health.

But, knowing this is Holls, she'll soon go back to being her old self. Sigh.

No. 735154

Another one..ugh..

No. 735156

>>735154

Nice self-post "Anon"

No. 735159

Holly deleted both her Tumblr accounts.

No. 735162

>>735002
>I don't give a shit about any of this lol xD but let me make a video about it and get those views!
This is bad and she should feel bad.

>>735129
Cinnabani also mostly seems in it for the attention, it's getting tiring.

No. 735163

>>735162

We already said it doesn't matter why Cinnabani's in it. No one else is going to try and milk the stupid cow.

No. 735167

File: 1542702669883.png (52.35 KB, 1188x378, crepp.png)

>>735002
So, she does not care about the drama or Holly but left this comment, and found the "why I love and support Holly Brown" video pretty early on

Yeah that totally checks out.

No. 735168

>>735163
>We
Holly is a mess without cinna self-inserting at every opportunity. Whatever she's trying to compile better be worth it.

No. 735172

>>735159

She probably saw the milk here about the discord message with cinna and decided it was time to turn tail and hide, and wait it all out.

No. 735177

>>735168
nta but most of us don't give a shit why she's into it. I'm excited for whatever she's gonna end up making.

No. 735185

>>734381
>>734418
>>735118
>"I'm so feminine how could anyone think that I'm a lesbian??? :("
Literally draws herself as a man with a mullet

No. 735186

There should really be a round of bans for anybody mentioning Cinna and any other obvious self poster. Why is the thread infested with the name of a nobody and their lc copy paste opinions from twatter. like the tirade of curious cat screenshots of cinna is just suspicious self posting with no milk besides her own dry self inserted powdered dairy.

No. 735187

>>735185
She doesn't even claim to be gay besides the "bi" thing which she counters by saying women are catty, loud but "s o m e" are allright and how she isn't ~like other girls~ bc she prefers to hang with guys because they're drama free and other pick me type shit.
Holly just wants herschel to fuck her self insert so she can feel less shitty about her incel tier lifestyle screeching at women to take responsibility when they're being raped.

No. 735198

>>735172
Actually, there's a bug where random blogs are being deleted on Tumblr right now. I shit you not.

I mean she still might have done it herself, but it's possible she was hit by the bug.

No. 735200

>>735198

i was wondering about that, too, but i feel like if she'd been a victim of the current "purge" going on on tumblr, she would have whined about it on insta. i checked for her blogs last night and they were gone, but she posted on insta three hours ago, so it should have been enough time for her to notice?

(tumblr is purging blogs that are deemed NSFW by their bot, so holly's main account could definitely been purged, and that automatically deletes the sideblogs, as well)

No. 735202

>>735138
So wait is Holly really going to make a new channel just because she can't stand the criticism? Does she not realize her haters will probably just follow her and that the only thing that will really change is that she will lose caual viewers who can't be bothered to refollow her?

No. 735205

>>735200
either way she's gonna say it was the purge lol

No. 735219

>>735202
yeah, i thought she was making a move in the right direction by getting a side-job and focusing less on social media, but a new channel will do the opposite of that. just taking a break and maybe changing her google plus/youtube username whenever she returned (like to holly’s art or something that’s not just her legal name) would make a lot more sense and save her a lot more subs, if she’s that concerned about every penny she makes (which we know she is).

No. 735238

File: 1542725307287.png (234.62 KB, 639x437, UkSvfr5.png)

The more I read about this chick the more I think she could do with some The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross.
She'd actually learn something for once and calm the fuck down.

No. 735241

>>735238
No way, she'd just end up ranting about how he's a dirty hobbyist or something

No. 735245

>>735241
Or how "lazy" he is lmao
or somehow draw him as a gay character in her shitty comics.

Holly better catch these hands if she ever disrespects my man bob

No. 735294

>>735186
>bans mentioning someone who is causing milk
genius, truly

No. 735366

File: 1542738786919.jpg (55.21 KB, 469x333, 08987.jpg)

>>735294
nta but if something's shitting up every thread it's not ridiculous to want it to stop. Bans are 2 harsh imo but I'd roll my eyes less if we all at least attempted to acknowledge that there is flagrant self-posting going on to the tune of untalented red-lines in video and blogging form and that it is embarrassing. I actually do find the resulting drama entertaining but it's worrying when I'm starting to loathe her hate-parasites more than the cow herself.
If those who suggested we stop bitching about Cinna were just enjoying the drama she was causing, why would they feel the need to defend her? I've read "who cares why she's doing it, she's finally calling out Holly" so many fucking times. It's funny to complain about assholes, Cinna's clearly an asshole. If we're going to discuss her at ALL (and I think most of her detractors would prefer we didn't anyway) then she shouldn't be defended from criticism. just my 2¢
/autism

No. 735569

>>735294
Cinna's posts are not milk in and of themselves, though.

If she's getting information from the discord or if holly is directly interacting with her, that's milk.

Also I'm not even sure what Cinna is trying to accomplish. If it's to hold Holly "accountable, there's no point because Holly never has and never will respond constructively to discipline or criticism.

No. 735570

>>735569

It's to get views/followers/attention i've decided. Nobody puts this much energy into a "problematic" person in public without expecting to gain something from it.

Wake me up when she actually gives us milk and not just parroting old shit from these boards. i'm getting sick of seeing her regurgitate info and every little thing she does regarding Holly ending up showing up here.

No. 735571

So is this the end of Holly milk for the foreseeable future? She's deleted all her social media (including IG) and wiped her tumblr; all we have left is her youtube channel.

No. 735576

>>735571
Probably not, it's unlikely that she'll be able to hold back if the zine artists continue to speak up, or gain more attention. Her IG isn't deleted btw

No. 735577

File: 1542765263019.png (368.8 KB, 720x1280, Screenshot_20181120-185310.png)

>>735571
Her newer ig is still active.

No. 735582

>>735577
oh just her old one is gone, i guess, cool.

>>735576
i feel like if the zine stuff goes anywhere she's really going to go into lockdown mode. a couple of critical videos about her as already put her in hiding. on top of the realization that she's absolutely trashed her name in the art community and fucked herself in terms of getting industry jobs, she might just quietly disappear.

No. 735585

Wonder if she'll edit her bio on her website and remove her BFA credentials. Highly doubtful though since she listed it the very beginning of her 'career'

No. 735589

>>735585
the only thing stopping my blood boiling at her listing herself as having a degree she didn't have is knowing she didn't in the end get any benefit or opportunities from that despicable practice

No. 735604

>>735589
>>735585

It's really dishonest, even if it doesn't matter to the art industry. Even if she didn't claim any degrees, it isn't like her art would be getting her any jobs. That's mostly what an artist has is their name, and their art, and for Holly, both are thoroughly dragged through the mud. Academic dishonesty just adds to it.

Her only claim to fame is her wonky, questionable BL fujo comics.

No. 735606

>>735585
Seeing how Holly recently found out she won't be able to continue college, I'm pretty sure she will eventually change her bio to reflect that she does not have the degree.

No. 735628

>>735570
Honestly if I had to guess, I'd say she just really doesn't like holly. I don't find it hard to believe she would given what little I know about her. And all the shitty stuff Holly has done. She probably just did something that pissed cinna off.

No. 735704

>>735628

Holly's crossed a lot of people, it's just that cinna took up the (rather obsessive) mantle of dogging her down. You'd swear this was some personal vendetta.

No. 735711

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surprising considering how much she's previously said how shitty having to get an actual job would be

No. 735713

>>735711

That was fast. Maybe she'd been low key looking for a bit.

Unless she means 'working' as in making comics as a day job.

No. 735715

>>735713
I understand she's going back to comics? No idea how she wants to make money off of them so fast (since Purgatory is unfinished and PP free) apart from her non-updated Patreon though. She will most likely ignore the latter completely, since she has more important things to do now, kek

(On a side note, can somebody tell me why she writes 'stfg' after every fith word?? "Search the f-ing google" for what?!)

No. 735716

>>735713
I understand she's going back to comics? No idea how she wants to make money off of them so fast (since Purgatory is unfinished and PP free) apart from her non-updated Patreon though. She will most likely ignore the latter completely, since she has more important things to do now, kek

(On a side note, can somebody tell me why she writes 'stfg' after every fith word?? "Search the f-ing google" for what?!)

No. 735717

>>735713
I understand she's going back to comics? No idea how she wants to make money off of them so fast (since Purgatory is unfinished and PP free) apart from her non-updated Patreon though. She will most likely ignore the latter completely, since she has more important things to do now, kek

(On a side note, can somebody tell me why she writes 'stfg' after every fith word?? "Search the f-ing google" for what?!)

No. 735718

Sorry, lolcow glitched a bit right now

No. 735719

stfg - swear to fucking god. I guess it's that since she uses it frequently in her videos.

No. 735721

>>735717
If holly were a smart, she'd use her patreon for comics more, like maybe have cp as a pateron only and have pp update on patreon sooner than free

She is rushing purgatory to an end so i guss she can just quietly let it die already

No. 735725

>>735715
I think she’s back to work and on top of that she’s working on comics.
Honestly I can see how working on art part time would be an improvement for her mood and possibly a way to improve. She might go back to drawing because she loves it instead of pretending to do it all day and hating every minute of it because it’s an obligation.

No. 735748

>>735725

If it's an actual part time job, she'll be bitching about it in no time flat and about how much it cuts into her comic making time. There's an off-chance she'll humble herself, but I'm not holding my breath.

No. 735752

>>735725
>>735748
I don't think she is started a new job yet but since she isn't in college anymore I'm sure she is going to have to start one soon. I actually feel a bit bad for her because without her degree she really doesn't have many options besides customer service for the rest of her life since teaching requires a degree in Texas?

No. 735761

>>735752
It's always a posibility to become a freelancer, but regarding possible clients she already fucked herself I'd say.
Not to mention that she's far too unorganized to be able to adhere to any schedule.

No. 735764

File: 1542810084963.jpeg (9.7 KB, 226x250, 7444DB50-51D3-49CC-9889-D71EEB…)

>>735154
Nice selfpost but I can’t take someone who draws like this seriously. Oops

No. 735775

>>735764
Well, what do we expect from 14 year old hobbyists?

No. 735885

>>735725
Might be OT but in a recent biana bova video she talked about drawing nonstop when she was depressed, as a way to avoid other things in her life and i immediately thought of holly. The way holly is constantly drawing, almost mindlessly and without joy, isn't healthy or good and could be linked to her depression? Like the sketchbook slam challenge, it's mindless, a way to cope and avoid real life. I think getting a part time job away from drawing will only do her good. I know we shit on holly but it'd be great if she could come out a better and healthier person from her online drama

No. 735913

>>735885
Honestly I think you're onto something, it does the same as mindlessly scrolling tumblr or facebook, takes your mind off how shitty and empty you feel and keeps your hands busy. I hope she actually gets a real part time job though, so far it seems unclear what she's trying to do.

No. 735959

>>735715
>stfg
it also means "swear to f-ing god" anon

No. 735987


No. 735988

>>735987
Oh wait, this one is already posted? That was retarded of me

No. 735997

>>735996
then why even made a thread about her anyway?!

No. 736001

>>735997
The video has already been talked about, and it wasn't that interesting in the first place. That's all there is to it.

No. 736009

this is why yall need to at least skim the thread first before jumping to post like you've got fresh milk.

No. 736104

>>735129
Christ, I can feel her shivering with anticipation through the screen. I guess the idea of getting attention and asspats outweighs the shame of being an annoying busybody.

No. 736117

All I keep hearing is how holly has helped people with art.
And im like ????
because even when i used to be her fan i never learned anything from holly or picked up any advice that would improve my work.
Even looking on older videos i don't see how this mess of a person helped anyone at all ,heck I think even sometimes holly confused herself with her own advice .

No. 736149

>>736117
well she inspired me to work harder, do more studies and actually improve my art so I don't stagnate in the same hideous style for years on end. does that count?

No. 736159

>>736149
It seems to to a lot of people so probably. The thing about Holly is she puts on this hard working front and before you visit these threads or maybe read her tweet storms before she could delete them you'd be sure she is definitely hard working and dedicated. And maybe she is to an extent but it's all just an endless sketchbook slam challenge for someone who refuses to study or take criticism. She's improving at a snail's pace if at all.

No. 736165

>>736159
The way she does things I would even say she even moves back in the creativity department. The very first purgatory draft comes to mind, which wasn't beautiful but had a lot more charm and heart to it.

No. 736176

this might be slightly off topic but its on topic of Holly lying
I found her youtube channel bc of her rendr sketchbook review back in like 2014/ when she was a senior in HS. She had about a year back log of sketchbook videos at that point. In her CalArts Rant video she references one of those sketchbooks from 2013ish as the one she applied to calarts with which would of made her apply literally as a junior which is an automatic rejection from CalArts. I can only assume its 100% a lie or she got into CSSSA which is a summer school hosted by CalArts.
And for perspective, most CSSSA students don't end up getting into CalArts. I went twice and then when I finally apped to CalArts I got wait listed.

Sorry I read every single thread and no one ever mentioned this.

No. 736182

>>736149
I think that Holly is the perfect example of how to not be a good artist (both when talking about art and attitude)

No. 736213

>>736176
This is some interesting info to me actually. That cal arts lie is what started her cow-dom after all and it always pissed me off.

No. 736223

>>735748
Is it possible to get an actual job this fast?

No. 736225

File: 1542892568444.png (351.06 KB, 448x787, pupdate.png)

"Hey y'all, I just wanted to say like a quick update, because I'm going to be working so much and I want to get Purgatory out of the way I really can't devote time to Patreon anymore, it's just going to be postponed until I finish freaking Purgatory. So anyone who's currently a Patreon right now - you're going to be refunded for this month just 'cause you know um… I don't wanna take your money on a month where I'm shitty um yea um so yeah I'll probably make one in the future when I know I can devote more time to comics and have more of a buffer, but for right now… Since this is a one I just started I'd rather FINISH the ones I have and start this in the future!"

No. 736237

>>736225
She will abandon her Patreon like everything else she started but never finished

No. 736250

…I don't understand how someone with a semi dedicated audience for her comic doesnt put all of them on Patreon…that is how so many independent comic artists make money why is she stupid.

No. 736256

>>732912
how is non-con not rape?

No. 736262

>>736225
This is the second patreon she's shut down. At least she's finally pulled the plug instead of just not delivering for weeks despite her self-set "two pages a day" schedule, but seriously?

Like other anons have said she could put all of her comics up on patreon first, most webcomic patreons make money through early access and patreon exclusives.

No. 736265

>>736256
Anon never said it wasn't rape they were implying Holly is trying to play it off as dub con but it's clearly non con (rape) which plenty of people could care less about but Holly lies and pretends its good writing and sweet romance.

No. 736272

>>736225
Kudos to her for refunding the patreons.

>>736256
Yeah pretty sure anon was just saying it's not the end of the world to make a non-con comic as long as you don't try to pass it off as being consensual to be more PC or something.

>>736262
Her whole 2 pages a day schedule was bound to fail. The thing is though I'm pretty sure most of her patreons were subscribed because they genuinely wanted to help her out and not because of the 'perks' they get from being patreons. Holly was just shooting herself in the foot by setting impossible goals for work to deliver.

No. 736300

>>736272
you're so right irt fans wanting to help. Honestly, even with artists I adore I'm more likely to support them because I want them to be successful enough to continue to make art, not for the perks. The extras/exclusives etc are just a respectful thank you gift imo.

Holly does not thank. Only hate. Couldn't even shit out the two daily squirts of diarrhea the brownclowns were promised.

>>736225
Those your hands, sis? No homo but they're pretty as hell.

No. 736308

>>736300
Judging by the crusty ass keyboard in the background that hand is def Holly's

No. 736309

Hey so, if holly got an actual job that's great, but if she's refunding people doesn't she mean next month's billing cycle and not this month?

And if she's going to rush out purgatory she should postpone payments entirely until she's done with it and actually ready to start up cp again with an actual buffer. In all honesty she should just shut down her entire patreon and stop trying to deliver on 'maybes' and 'I wannas'. I sincerely hope this isn't a case where now that she's made it harder to go after her on social media, that she'll say she'll refund people one month, but then the months after, she ends up not doing shit and letting people just quietly pay her patreon without letting them know what's up.

Since you know. She'll be so busy and all…

I don't wanna give the cow any ideas but if she was smart she'd put cp on a certain tier and let PP be the main comic everyone can support since she's so obsessed with working on more than 1 comic at once at all times.
Dunno. Might be hard for her with work and all…~

No. 736310

Hey so, if holly got an actual job that's great, but if she's refunding people doesn't she mean next month's billing cycle and not this month?

And if she's going to rush out purgatory she should postpone payments entirely until she's done with it and actually ready to start up cp again with an actual buffer. In all honesty she should just shut down her entire patreon and stop trying to deliver on 'maybes' and 'I wannas'. I sincerely hope this isn't a case where now that she's made it harder to go after her on social media, that she'll say she'll refund people one month, but then the months after, she ends up not doing shit and letting people just quietly pay her patreon without letting them know what's up.

Since you know. She'll be so busy and all…

I don't wanna give the cow any ideas but if she was smart she'd put cp on a certain tier and let PP be the main comic everyone can support since she's so obsessed with working on more than 1 comic at once at all times.
Dunno. Might be hard for her with work and all…~

No. 736386

>>735124
That’s the lowered price? What was it before

No. 736390

>>736386
300 dollars

No. 736407

>>736390
Did she because it’s traditional and large that it should be priced that much? Artist like Myriam Tillison has more complex art that’s around that size and doesn’t even charge more than $250. I don’t even see someone paying for that at $150

No. 736409

>>736407
Be a darling and sage your non-milky comments, alright?

No. 736415

I think Holly is making some baby steps in the right direction. Getting a job and refunding people are a great start. Now she just needs to improve her art and keep her opinions to herself.

No. 736472

Jeff Lafferty doesn't have all the facts.

No. 736498

>>736472
please stop posting all the coat tail riding videos

No. 736514

>>736498
There are like five more too. If anyone wants to watch em

No. 736518

File: 1542927686381.png (1.25 MB, 640x1136, 1DFABDF1-1947-457E-A9E2-4900FE…)

“Living in one of the Wealthy nations”????

No. 736524

>>736518
i guess she's grateful to not live in a third world shithole like cambodia or something? i mean…fair enough.

No. 736549

>>736518
what about that don't you understand?

No. 736566

>>736549
America is pretty mid tier that's why.

No. 736576

>>736518

>wealthy nation


lol sure magafag

No. 736577

>>736518
I take it she's never left the country, not even her hometown. We all know she's wealthy in ignorance.

No. 736579

>>736577
She went to school out of state, but mostly yeah

No. 736582

>>736579
She went to an online school, I'm pretty sure she's never moved out of state for her education.

No. 736601

ITT, niggers butthurt about not being rich within a first world country? or something? lmao

No. 736617

>>736601
Objective fact, feel free to grow up. Also not all farmers are American way to show just how stupid you people are lol.

>>736582
Online school was her second school. Feel free to watch her recent college video for more info newfag.

No. 736625

>>736601
More like dumbass americans being shit scared of third world countries when globalization has increased the standard of living everywhere. Have family in a third world country and they don't fester in garbage and cat piss like holly does lmao

No. 736629

>>736617
so it was a terrible attempt at '/int/ humour'? there are about 200 countries, name 20 that would be better described as a wealthy nation than the USA, to show the US is not in the top 10%. Take your time.

>>736625
that doesn't make any sense with respect to what they posted. They're saying america is a poor shithole which is a funny meme but not something you'd seriously say unless you were a seething communist who cries "america was never great" because muh minorities

No. 736640

>>736629
Mid tier. Feel free to stop pulling hyperbole from your ass to justify your incorrect “opinions”

No. 736662

Stop derailing.

No. 736702

File: 1542955715925.jpeg (Spoiler Image,247.94 KB, 1242x1667, image.jpeg)

Not sure if milk or not but this looks a lot like the pose she did for school.


Saged

No. 736722

>>736702
Can you post the photo you’re talking about to compare tho

No. 736723

>>736702
holly never drew anything with this level of accuracy so i dunno what you're implying

No. 736740


No. 736741

>>736740
god damn…you're retarded

No. 736769

>>736740
…anon you realize this is a typical pose for a model in any life drawing class…right?

No. 736796

>>736702
That's not even the same pose anon.

No. 736821

>>736702
Ffs as long as she isn't literally tracing a photo she didn't take there is nothing wrong with 'copying' a pose.

No. 736842

>>736740
breaking news: only one woman ever in history has had an image taken of her lying down

No. 736855

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No. 736856

File: 1542998399185.png (198.08 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20181123-133804.png)

sorry i didn't even think to share this when i got it, but i think it's interesting (two jobs??)

No. 736897

well great thing is shes actually doing what we've been telling to to do .At least I hope so? and that its not one big lie.
But we'll see when she makes another video as still the same ole brown .

No. 736907

>>736855
>I've had people expecting 24 pages of comics a month.

You did that, Holly. No one would have expected 24 pages a month if she hadn't said that's what she was going to upload. "I'll post two pages a day" means just that, not "I will post two pages a day maybe, if I can, idk"

Good that she's learning some limits and retiring the patreon but come the fuck on, there's a way to sabotage yourself.

No. 736911

>>736855
Hold up, this is such bullshit. The patreons paid for content that 1) wasnt nsfw and 2) shes going to upload for free anyway?? Give them all their money back Holly.

No. 736934

>>736911
Meh I'm pretty sure most of Holly's patreon supporters won't mind. Also there are a lot of artists on patron who have an 'early access' perk for their supporters that repost their stuff on other accounts after a while so Holly could always do that too for the future.

No. 736938

>>736856
>i see a lot of producers doing well on Patreon
Of course it's because she saw others making money that she thought "hey, I could do this thing too!"
Holly, these other content creators probably don't give themselves such extreme workload burdens or they have a large enough buffer if they decide to make such a difficult schedule. Also, how many of these content creators are using Patreon as their sole income?

No. 736957

>>736740
Anon that reference is commonly used and from a Loomis Book lol. You meant well tho I guess.

No. 736961

>>736938
A lot of content creators have their Patreon as well as an online store and conventions. It's hard work but def possible to make a living this way. It's what Holly was probably planning but she's an idiot lol.

No. 737041

>>736855
>people expecting 24 pages of comics a month
>even though that's what I fucking said I'd do

can't decide if she's just a fucking moron or backtracking to absolve herself of blame.

and by 2 jobs does she mean youtube and whatever job she's getting irl, or actually 2 real jobs? she was so snide about "not flipping burgers," but retail is equally awful most ofthe time and all she's qualified for without a degree. wonder if she's going back to michaels.

No. 737089

>>737041
>even though that's what I fucking said I'd do
that's the point? She's saying "i got people expecting x…" as in "i created the expectation"

>>736911 she says right there she is refunding

why cunts just not even bother to read through her expressions and act like does worse than she actually does and create false milk pay attention lazy fucks

No. 737095

>>737089
nayrt but 2 things:
1) Chill?
2) I think they meant that all the rewards she's been posting up hasn't even been part of the rewards she listed. The rewards were always 10+ pages of NSFW but she's only posted NSFW barely if at all.
All the rewards she's been uploading has been SFW and "building up plot" but that wasn't what was advertised or paid for. tbh she should have just said "10+ pages of drawn content per month"

No. 737118

File: 1543035568212.jpeg (4.26 KB, 225x225, images.jpeg)

This is entirely unrelated to current milk, but simons glasses arent gurren lagan kamina glasses. Theyre supposed to be cat eye glasses. Holly what the fuck.

Pic related. What.

No. 737119

File: 1543035870064.jpeg (20.58 KB, 182x277, download.jpeg)

>>737118

Pic for comparison

No. 737120

File: 1543035783282.jpeg (15.38 KB, 310x163, download (1).jpeg)


No. 737121

>>737120
>>737119
Lolcow took a shit but both are from me for comparison.

Consistency? Holly doesnt know her.

No. 737124

>>737118
>Theyre supposed to be cat eye glasses.
how do you know

No. 737131

>>737124
She mentioned it in a stream of hers

No. 737159

>>737120
whatever those fucking glasses were supposed to be, they're awful.

No. 737175

>>736741
>>736769
>>736842
I was just linking to the post other anon referred to, calm down. I don't think she copied it either, but people were asking what drawing it was. Afaik that's the only one Holly's done like that that's been posted in these threads.

No. 737179

>>737089
>I've had people expecting 24 pages a month, when that's the goal
Yeah no, you could read that as "I created the expectation" if you give her the benefit of the doubt and slightly reword it in your head, but that's not actually what she said.

No. 737189

>>737179
so what does it mean? "the goal is just a goal but people thought it was a requirement", something like that?

No. 737195

>>737189
That's what I read it as too, basically she was going to upload up to 24 pages.

No. 737196

>>737189
That's what I read it as too, basically she was going to upload up to 24 pages.

No. 737217

>>737179
>>737189
>>737195
holly is borderline illiterate so we'll never know for sure. but I read it as "people were expecting 24 pages but I only meant I'd TRY to upload that many"

No. 737298

File: 1543079501911.png (335.37 KB, 451x783, slimshady.png)

"Okay so I'm recording some stuff for my NEW channel, um… So this video in gonna be the song I listened to in middle school and then I'm illustrating them. Uh, can you fucking tell what it is?

I'm kinda worried since it has Eminem in it it's uh.. That people are gonna get like… Crazy about it but… It's what I listened to in middle school!"

Yes Holly, you'll probably be crucified like the martyr you are for listening to Eminem, the whole world is out to get you for no reason at all, but you're so humble about it! I had some hopes that she actually knew that she was the problem this time, guess not.

No. 737300

>>737298
It's alwaus hilarious when snowflakes say shit like "oh, people are going to FLIP OUT with this" and then no one cares

No. 737301

>>737298
Is this supposed to be eminem? God her art is ugly.

Then again they say artists look like their art.

No. 737310

>>737298
>I just want to avoid negativity and change my life
>Teehee people might flip out about this, whatever will I do!
You have got to be kidding me.

That said, I doubt anyone will care, Eminem's wildest/most controversial shit happened over 10 years ago.

No. 737316

>>737310
Recently he was mildly under fire for dissing some other rapper in an implied homophobic way in his new song (I think people were being stupid not saying I agree) so that might be what she means? Maybe she doesn't wanna be associated with more homophobia. Honestly anyone upset over this would be insane and it's pretty unlikely they will be. At the same time her bringing it up and immediately making a joke of it is so stupid and tacky.

No. 737319

He called someone a faggot like a month ago lol >>737310

No. 737320

>>737316
>>737319
Oh nvm then thats not implied haha, yeah I guess I do understand why people were mad. But seriously no on is going to attack Holly shes bring an attention seeking idiot.

No. 737321

She's like that Christan dude that went around to Starbuckes making them say Merry Christmas cuz he thought it would trigger them somehow. It's so stupid and telling to make a victim of yourself before anything has happened.

No. 737387

>>737301
I don't know her art is looking a bit better than it usually does. I mean this one doesn't have a massive jaw or the weird muscle lines. Maybe going afk is doing Holly some good?

No. 737408

>>737387
No idea how sou can look at that leg and these brows and still write that

No. 737418

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>>737298
fucken shota shady laksdjlakds I snorted my fucking coffee
I'm not even mad, this is actually endearing. Reverting to a preteen state is better than trying to be an edgy adult. I respect people who can admit they never quite made the transition as long as they don't act like others are immature.

No. 737420

>>737418
You can bet she will be back to "I'm a great professional and my opinion is always truth" within two weeks max

No. 737441


No. 737452

>>737441
Even after the shit she put Emily through, Emily is still being nice to Holly.

No. 737477

>>737441
I like emily but i dont think she has all the facts… the tracing thing might have been what blew up all the holly hate but theres a whole lot of other reasons she’s hated.

No. 737502

>>735764
The final product is not bad for someone not using a layin.
If they took advantage of the proko videos on youtube, they could really improve.

No. 737507

>>737477
I agree. Actually her whole collab story just shows that Holly is making the same mistake of trash-talking people with her thoughtless comments year after year

No. 737509

>>737507
I Mean why should everybody “forgive” her if she’s been like this from day one? She’s never learned to respect the people she works with

No. 737529

>>737509
You're right - everyone defending her acts like she only made a single mistake (and apologized) when in fact it's the other way around and she just never owned up to anything until now.

No. 737544

>>737441
"She trash talked her collab partner in a video and yes, it was pretty unprofessional, but all Holly does is just human error"

No. 737556

>>737441
I'll never understand why anyone will give objectively flawed people chance after chance or give them the benefit of the doubt, after years of the same behavior, they never change. Emily is way too lenient on Holly considering she was shit talking the collab she organized and the artist who she was partnered with. Why isn't Emily defending Holly's partner?

>if that happened today she would've made a wiser decision


No, she wouldn't have. She has consistently made awful decisions and said awful things. The art community avoids her like the plague for a reason. This is a stupid, unnecessary video that brings nothing to the table on the subject of Holly. Emily is clearly trying to be "nice art mom who is above drama" but it really just makes her look naive.

No. 737560

>>737556
Not even a couple of months ago she was saying her zine wouldn't sell because so many no name artists were in it. Even in her friends stream she was complaining about customers. She hasn't changed at all.

No. 737582

>>737441
I normally would agree with Emily (I'm not a wk I swear!) but I have to disagree with her in this case. Holly has repeated the same shitty behavior for YEARS now. Many people have grievances against Holly besides the tracing issue, the bullshit she pulled with the zine being an example as well as her ignorant comments about rape. When the majority of the drama dies down, you can bet your ass Holly will be back to her regular shenanigans.

No. 737599

>>737556

>Emily is clearly trying to be "nice art mom who is above drama" but it really just makes her look naive.


This.
But everyone knows she's not above drama, she's the same one who made a call out video that she thought nobody was going to guess who she was talking about for.

Aside from her little unpleasant run-in with collaborating with Holly, she's obviously just in it for the coin. I feel like she knows more than she's letting on but is playing dumb/naiive so it doesn't look like she hasn't ever read here before lmao. the more naiive she sounds the more suspect she is, there isn't a doubt in my mind anyone speaking publicly about Holly, has at least seen these threads once but are trying so hard to seem neutral and 'drama free' so they're only touching on the tracing drama when the iceberg runs so much deeper than that.
And why she isn't defending the other collaborator IS a good question. It's always 'poor widdle howwy, nobody understands whyyyyy people dislike her soooo much!'

Get real, Emily. Scramble for your fucking coins and leave lol.

No. 737645

>>737599 OT
Wait did it ever come out who Emily’s video was about?

No. 737656

>>737645
In the General Artist Salt thread people have speculated that it was Kattvalk, but no one knows. Sorry for being ot

No. 737690

As someone who has read purgatory I’m genuinely confused as to why there aren’t more questions about it. There’s endless bad psychology to unpack there. It’s been pretty clear to me so far none of the yt artists give much of a shit about the “community” at least not enough to actually sit down and read their fellow youtubers work.

No. 737697

>>737690
Kinda like how the only YTers that read the Bible are Athiests, the only people who've read Holly's book are people who make criticisms on it. No one defending her actually cares to know everything she's done.

No. 737709

>>737452
Stop selfposting.

No. 737711

>>737599
It's kind of sad on Emily's part because I guarantee Holly has said some mean shit about her behind her back. Honestly Emily should just stay in her lane. This video will only encite more drama and now drag her into it.

No. 737712

>>737711
well, her video will get put into recommendations for people who follow holly drama, so +++ views for her

No. 737720

>>737711
If Holly wants to call out anyone for using the drama for adsence, look no further than Emily.

No. 737761

The only time I ever see Emily pop up in the recommended section is when she wants to wiggle her way into some drama, or gossip.

Legit, every other time, I forget she even exists. Her art and personality is just that generic.

No. 737766

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from Holly's most recent instagram story. I think she actually looks super cute here (she was flipping her hair so I couldn't get a good cap)

Hope she gets the job, it'll be really good for her.

No. 737780

>>737766

yeah Holly cleans up pretty ok. I hope she gets the job too. She was a little disingenuous about saying she already had them though, so I think she was getting a little ahead of herself, but good luck to her nonetheless.

No. 737784

>>737766
When your standards of Holly are so low that yall call her decent or cute when she’s only doing the bare minimum of not looking like a greasy slob lmfao

No. 737787

>>737766
How old is she? She looks like she's in her 30's.

No. 737793

>>737766
she looks totally different (in a good way). she should try to look nice more often.

>>737780
that seems to be a common occurrence for holly, pretending to already have something she doesn't…

No. 737805

>>737766
That angle works wonders to hide her lopsided potato face

I actually hope she gets this job. Homegirl needs more life and job experience outside of the internet with people who won't put up with or make excuses for her inadequacy. She always struck me as the kind of person to talk mean shit online but stumble and mumble like she's got Asperger's IRL. Hopefully she can clean up her act.

No. 737810

>>737787

She's in her early 20s. like 22 or 23 I forget.

This photo makes it look like half her face is missing

No. 737811

>>737793

It's still not clear whether when she said "jobs" she meant 2 actual day jobs, or one day job and the other is just her working on comics. Her writing composition is always so flaky.

No. 737819

>>737811
I think she writes purposely ambiguously to make it sound like she's doing more work than she really is, per usual. Then again, she fucking sucks at writing so who knows. I do really think she has a learning disability, it would explain so much.

No. 737828

>>737819
Her grammar and spelling are so abysmal that I honestly wonder sometimes how she managed to finish high school at all. She most definitely has some kind of learning impairment

No. 737850

>>737766
yeah wow I hardly recognized her at first

It's actually a really good color on her, and it looks good straight

No. 737864

>>737316
>>737319
Nevermind then lol, it's not like this is a sudden change though so if she wanted to avoid potential controversy at any cost, she could just…not draw Eminem.

>>737441
I don't like this mindset of "oh, but it was a single mistake! She apologized!". An apology is just words, you don't just automatically deserve forgiveness just because you've said sorry. She just repeated what Holly said and took it at face value.

No. 737879

>>737864
Its like bojack. “You can't keep doing this! You can't keep doing shitty things and then feel bad about yourself like that makes it okay! You need to be better!”

Or rick and morty:
“You seem to alternate between viewing your own mind as an unstoppable force and as an inescapable curse. And I think it's because the only truly unapproachable concept for you is that it's your mind within your control. I have no doubt that you would be bored senseless by therapy, the same way I'm bored when I brush my teeth and wipe my ass. Because the thing about repairing, maintaining, and cleaning is it's not an adventure. There's no way to do it so wrong you might die. It's just work. And the bottom line is, some people are okay going to work, and some people well, some people would rather die.”

No. 737933

>>737879
Im going to lose it , you sound so fucking autistic please dont qoute high iq cartoons anymore. Especially in relation to Holly , this is really funny , but also really sad .

No. 737937

I swear, she gets herself into the weirdest situations for no reason at all, it sounded like she already had a job position confirmed, what is she even going to do if she has a hard time getting employed? This is just like when she lied about already having a degree because she was so confident (and we all know how that turned out)

>>737933
Chill and sage

No. 737953

>>737879
I'm not even going to read the huge Rick and Morty quote lol (but I agree about the Bojack one)

No. 737958

>>737933
>>737953
Ever since the whole Holly drama broke on YouTube we have been getting more and more of Holly's ex-audience flocking here so I'm not too surprised to see stupid Rick and Morty quotes on here kek.

No. 737961

>>737477

has Emily ever done a video where she isn't just talking about

- other artists
- something OMG SO TERRIBLE/CREEPY/WEIRD that happened to her?

I can't think off-hand of a single video that has just been… art.

Sage cos she's not Holly but this has always been my milkiest milk with Emily; all her videos have to have some kind of drama attached

No. 737965

>>737961
She started like a story time series I think. You probably only see her drama click bait cuz it works and is her most viewed stuff.

No. 737987

>>737879
>quoting an entire paragraph of Rick and Morty
You're not wrong but whew.

Holly won't get better on her own though, she clearly needs outside help.

No. 737989

>>737418
You sound like a 16 year old tumblr holly fan

No. 738002

>>737995
The milk has been so low lately that farmers are now picking fights between themselves

No. 738003

>>737995
The milk has been so low lately that farmers are now picking fights between themselves

No. 738095

>>737937
As always she just wants to sound more hardworking and accomplished than she actually is. And as always it comes back to bite her.

No. 738181

>>737958
I'd only watched Holly for a month before this happened and I started digging. Not only is her audience a lot younger than I am, but she gives the impression that "you can be self sufficient with art" even though she literally lives with family and doesn't pay for necessities. I haven't found a single good art youtuber who's audience isn't 13-17 and isn't either PG Family Friendly Clean, or edgy and controversial.
Holly is almost exactly like Spechie, even though Spetchie is fresh from high school.

No. 738203

>>737766

where is the link for this pic?. Can't find her insta

No. 738216

>>738181
At least Spechie moved out. Then again, Holly has a lot of mental health issues and it's good that she's not on her own. She definitely isn't ready and I think being completely alone would be harmful.

No. 738249

>>738181
Not a single one you say?
You might want to try someone who's a seasoned professional then, not a barely self-sufficent 20 year old.
Try swatches or Marco Bucci if you want to learn something - or maybe Astri Loohe if you prefer illustration. At least two of them are freelancers too.
And "art community drama" isn't even a thing there.

No. 738257

>>738181
Arleebean, Leigh Ellexson, Marco Bucci, Myriam Tillson, JelArts, PearFleur, Teoh Yi Chie, maybe Sketching Scarlet, and Zozaleenie (but she isn't strictly drawing) are all great and completely drama-free

No. 738269

>>738257
I lot of those artist are PG tho. A lot of edgy/Holly brown type users garner such a young fanbase because of how blunt and toxic they are.

No. 738275

>>738269

True. Kids don't necessarily come to art channels like those to improve necessarily but because they think the edgy/insufferable behavior 'speaks' to them.
AND they aren't TOO skilled, so it's an attainable "relatable" goal.

No. 738309

>>738275
Yeah kiddos would rather watch a mouthy edgelord like Spechie or Holly who draw shitty quasi-anime cartoons than someone with the same personality doing photorealism or something.

No. 738320

Umm I think Holly just nuked her website. It's coming up as an available domain on GoDaddy when searched.

No. 738324

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>>738320
Holly probably just didn’t bother to renew it. She will now as soon as she lurks.

No. 738341

Is she putting her new channel under a different name?

No. 738367

A lot of Molly's ex fans are huge spergs and I've been seeing them post this thread multiple times in comment threads on youtube, that's probably why there might be more cringy posts than usual
the biggest sperg seems to be the girl with the nami icon that flips out at everyone and has to post our thread on every other comments chain
TD;DR if your a newfag lurk more and stop bringing YouTube normies here

No. 738373

Saged for my shit artist explaination but:

I just find Holly interesting in a sense that I study what she wants to be, a "mangaka", but she kinda doesn't understand basic procedure.
Like, people who make manga go on location and take photos of their own so they can make a genuine product, even if they traced their own photo. Not to mention you get to see, yourself, where your drawn characters will go.
They study sports and vehicles, animals and a lot of the time, they need a team to create these things. It genuinely wouldn't hurt her to spend that money she uses on reference packs to collaborate with a specialty artist.
She's very… Unwilling to study those things, but still wants to draw them?

A lot of what Holly paraphrases in her videos, even in the tracing video, are from a mangaka named Tatsuyuki Maeda or Mikey. He explains that certain things you can trace like buildings and plants.

"I think tracing might be ok too. Trace [Houses and cars]and get used to the balance"

This doesn't really apply to Holly, but she believes this.

No. 738377


No. 738378

>>738341
She has to know she can't just run away from her drama. Her art style/voice/way of speaking is way too distinct. New channels, new LOLcow threads linking her to them. Unless she's totally silent, and doesn't make art videos anymore, people will know.

No. 738379

>>738373
Anon, she wouldn't even pay her flatter more than the absolute minimum possible, not to mention that the vast majority of comic artists don't have a team of assistants, and there are world-famous mangaka that don't have any either. Assistants aren't really a thing outside of Japan where they have a monthly magazine schedule.

She needs to build her own skillset instead of looking for shortcuts first.

No. 738383

>>738379
It's just weird because, if she just tested some shit out and drew out of her comfort zone, even in her published works, she'd get better.
You can visually see mangaka develop a cleaner style by the end of a manga run.
A lot of what she has done has been stagnant. I get the struggle, too.
"Draw this new meme/Draw fanart of this/This will get you more attention"
but she quite literally takes not risks and it's so uninteresting.

I'm also definitely not saying she needs any assistants, maybe some collaborators, though? But like you said, it's common in Japan to have some because they have deadlines.

Why does Holly pretend to have deadlines? I'll forever be confused about that.

No. 738388

tbh i feel like all this outrage over the zine and her tracing might have actually killed all the fun milk, like her shitty art. why couldn't you all just leave her alone and let her be delusional over her art so that she would have keep posting milk.

No. 738389

>>738388
>why couldn't you all just leave her alone
Because this is a discussion board and she kinda fucked over a generous about of people with her zine?
Because the tracing controversy explains why her art doesn't look good?
You act like there will never be new Holly Browns in this world. There will be.

No. 738393

>>738388
>implying these threads are what caused this drama

everything we talk about here seldom leaves this board. the tracing drama blew up because of that cowtipper Cinna and the zine drama has yet to get any sort of real notice. I think Cinna said she's gathering info on that to expose her for that too.

Holly never pays for the crimes we discuss here. Blame cowtippers like Cinna for scaring her into hiding.

No. 738397

>>738393
Not trying to wk, but imo i'm glad she's running away/hiding now. there will be other hollys, and she's a genuinely horrible human being.

No. 738399

>>738393
not to be pedatic, but it's only cowtipping if she mentions lolcow outside of lolcow. I think this qualifies as pooptouching or milking? (i saw that used in another thread but I'm not up to date on all the lingo here)

No. 738417

>>738269
well, what do you want? A somewhat respectable professional who swears up and down in the eye of the public?
Even Hollys fans should have realized these things don't go well together

No. 738425

>>738393
As much as I dislike her constant self-inserting Cinna didn't even cowtip though, even though she's obviously a farmer. Some of Holly's fans did in the comments, but she was lurking here long before that. I think the tracing drama was pretty much the Streisand effect in action, she could have responded to the call-out tweet but instead she nuked her Twitter and made a huge fuss about it and it snowballed from there.

It was only a matter of time until the tipping point, she's been pissing people off consistently for a long time.

No. 738430

>>738367
>TD;DR if your a newfag lurk more
How about you also learn how to sage your shit before you call out other people

No. 738503

>>737441
Why is emily so ready to forgive when Holly hasn't apologized or even felt sorry for things like showing how to remove water marks in her terrible 'I hate watermarks' video. Or apologized for tracing and not crediting Kibbitzer.
>>738216
Spechie is worse than Holly. Holly at least doesn't threaten to sue people over videos.

No. 738505

>>738503
What's so bad about her showing how to remove watermarks? It's not like people didn't already know how to do that and she wasn't encouraging anyone to actually do it.

No. 738507

i feel like there’s some kind of irony in the fact that holly made that useless vid complaining about watermarks (which i view as “artist signatures taken to the extreme”), yet the only way that i was able to figure out some of the artists of the zine’s pictures was bc they put a tiny signature in their pics. either they just do that all the time, or maybe they doubted holly’s “expert organizational skills” from the start, lol.

No. 738510

>>738505
Do you know what watermarks are used for, mate?

No. 738512

>>738505
Well for starters she wants to be a professional artist and put her video under her actual name. Any company that sees the video is gonna side eye anything she shows cause they got video proof shes removed at least 3 watermarks before.

Plus not everyone going to know it. Just because some know how doesn't mean everyone does.

No. 738516

>>738425

Pissing people off is frankly the only thing she's consistent at.

No. 738520

>>738505
>artist removing other artists watermarks and showing her shitty 12 year old fanbase how to do it so they can steal and repost art to their hearts content

you don't see an issue with this?

No. 738533

>>738505
What was the point of even creating that video showing how to remove watermarks? Classic Holly move to do something stupid without thinking about the implications.

In other news I kinda miss having fresh milk but hopefully that just means Holly is getting her life together.

No. 738646

>>738393 Has Holly ever done anything personal to Cinna for her to pursue Holly like thing? I mean Im not complaining since we need at least someone to be on top of her

No. 738659

>>738646

No and no one cares

No. 738707

>>738646
No, she replied to a curiouscat anon that just explained she fundamentally/morally finds her behaviour gross. So that's most of what we know.

No. 738872

Has anyone on this thread purchased anything from Holly?

No. 738875

>>738872
I believe we have someone who is/was a patreon. Also I'm pretty sure a few people bought the zine here.

No. 738940

>>738872

One person said they ordered from her a while ago, a few threads back. Said that her packaging was actually ok, but it was too bad that the packaging had nothing to do with what she actually made.

No. 739295

I have bought things from Holly from the past. Both times it took her over a month to actually ship it out. Her packaging is good and her products are decent (besides the sketchbook she used to make and a fish pin they both broke fairly quickly) but I cant say that about the art that was put on them. She was considerate with the prints and would ship them between some really hard sturdy material and it would be separate from other items. I think the only thing she does super well is packaging.

No. 739298

>>739295
Kek if only she took the same amount of time and care into her artwork like she does her packaging

No. 739354


No. 739381

>>739354
everyone really have to get a piece of this old ass pie huh?

No. 739409

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>>739354
Meh, normally I find him okay, but this was a pretty shit take imo. It's a shame none of the people who are making videos about her does any research. Found this gem of a comment though, so that's a plus. Seriously, where are all these comments allegedly telling her to kill herself?

No. 739414

I´m baffled by how everyone only focusses on the tracing issue when her shit personality and treatment of other people is honestly a much more glaring problem in my opinion

No. 739415

Yeah the rape fetish denialism is worse (that she makes it consensual with shitty writing that is) and even the slavery comments I was really expecting that to be more controversial than the tracing.

Also the zine fuck ups. Artists receiving missing pages, page doubles , upside down pages, uneven covers. Way worse than tracing.

No. 739416

>>739415
Tracing is an unforgivable sin in the online art community so I'm not surprised.

Anyways I haven't heard from Holly in a while, I hope she is getting her life together offline now that YouTube isn't really feasible for her.

No. 739419

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No. 739440

>>739409
The only reason people comment on her weight is because she tries to educate others on losing weight while she's fat.
Not to mention, it's a very American idea set that you don't trace shit, so what he said isn't entirely true.

No. 739445

>>739440
She's not that fat I just hate that she says to eat 5 bites a day as a proper diet according to her personal trainer sister.

No. 739460

>>739445
Okay well she's got a gut. Not obese or anything. Still, it's kind of weird to yell to your audience that this new shit diet is the cure, especially if most of her audience is children.

No. 739536

>>739460
True true

No. 740119

rip holly's milk. great job cinnafanny

No. 740152

>>740119
and this is why we don't cowtip and pooptouch, newfriends

No. 740155

>>740152
>>740119
Did she decide not to start a new channel after-all?

No. 740160

>>740152
Grow up, it ain't the end of the world, shes stupid enough to make some more eventually.

No. 740166

>>740160
Yeah I'm confused why people are acting like this is the end of holly's milk. She's gonna remake, act like a better person for a week, then spurt milk like she always does. She's obviously going to link to the new channel on her instagram/youtube to 'start over', so it's not like we're losing her. She's trying to run away, that's all.

No. 740185

>>740166 I originally thought she was starting all over with a new name so people irl from her job won't trace the scummy shit she does online, but I forgot thats not how the internet works

No. 740198

>>740119
Give it like a week or two tops, she'll be back. Don't worry.

No. 740279

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Repost from the Artists on Youtube Thread
Creepshow art is piling onto the Holly Brown discussion. I don't even like Holly by all these artists trying to use her to get views puts a bad taste in my mouth. And they never have good takes or all the facts.

No. 740285

>>740279
>lolcow video
what the fuck, who is this cunt

No. 740288

>>740285
An untalented edgelord. Is it creepshow?

No. 740310

>>740288
seems like a yes

No. 740361

>>740279

I hope she gets backlash for it. People are done talking about Holly, but creepshow just can't seem to get over it. It's been weeks and the hb stuff, as far as the art yt community at large is concerned, is done. Everyone's over it.

Plus she's openly admitting to at least lurking, if not contributing here. No one in their right mind would admit to that, but I can't say she's got any integrity in the first place.

She's desperate for attention at this point and it's pretty pathetic. Now we gotta deal with teenage holly stans.

No. 740375

>>740279
Damn, this is beyond embarrassing. She's way to similar to Holly to be capable of having anything interesting to say about the situation anyways.

No. 740379

>>740279
Youtube has been recommending her channel for the past week and genuinely, she has no room. She's trying to be a "call out" art channel when not only is she not artistically interesting enough (all her drawings look like the same woman in different cosplays) but her opinions aren't anything a more interesting youtuber has covered in a more engaging way.

The art community on youtube is such a cesspool, it's genuinely disgusting they're all trying to stay relevant talking about Holly, especially after multiple videos have been made explaining any point they could make 10x better.

No. 740430

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"So I'm making a new channel and I'm actually having an INTRO! And um, it's taking me a super long time because I have to INDIVIDUALLY crop out tiny little things like that…"

No. 740439

>>740361
Screw teenage holly stans, now we probably will get a influx of creepshow fans who won't follow rules or post useful info.

No. 740443

>>740379
The art community in YouTube is a cesspool because the average viewer doesn't really care about art skill, they care about personality and video quality. YouTube artists are constantly trying to stir up drama and stay releavant so that people will continue to watch them.

>>740430
Low key excited to see how this turns out. We haven't had fresh milk for a while now and it's getting annoying talking about all these people just using the situation to get more subscribers. I wonder if Holly will call out people like creepshow or if she will just try to sweep everything under the rug.

No. 740444

>>740443
She should really swipe everything under the rug and avoid to fuel all the drama.

No. 740445

>>740443
>>740444
That's probably her plan, but this is still a terrible idea made worse by the fact that she's apparently just going to use her real name again. Holly will probably be good for a while and then start to snap at people again, kinda like the beginning of her yt career.

No. 740450

>>740445
>>740444
There is no way people like creepshow will let her sweep it under the rug. Holly's best bet is to call people out for using her mistake to get views and be careful about 'using reference' for the foreseeable future.

No. 740455

>>740445 She's using her real name again? Might as well she just continue using her old channel

No. 740458

>>740455
I'm assuming that's what she's doing considering the insta screenshots seem to be from her new intro. Not that it matters much anyway if she's going to unveil it on her current channel, but still.

No. 740463

File: 1543504644931.png (40.29 KB, 1028x352, 2.PNG)

i think this was missed because i didn't see it in the thread but it's from her recent art school video. i totally forgot about clever kitchen until this lol

>>740430
well at least she managed to not be holly BRown again

No. 740667

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"So basically for this video I'm gonna have clips that edit in… Like interviews and stuff and I'm editing out the background… Ooh boy, I don't know how people do this for a living, huhhhhh"

"One of the rules for my new channel is that anytime I mention something I wanna show like a clip of it or an image of it but it HAS to match the aesthetic, soooo.. Guess who individually has to greenscreen everything out?"

No. 740696

>>740667
???then hire an editor if you're just gonna complain lol
and even then their a rt tutorials on how to do hat and save tons of time - there are tools in after effects just for this purpose of this.
This seems like a lot of effort for something she most likely won't even keep up.

No. 740763

>>740430

So is this her aesthetic now? Is she "rebranding" from the sewage swamp of her art littering her headers and icons by trying to cover it up with pretty dried flowers and whatnot?

Like, what exactly are her priorities. A week ago she was so dead set on focusing on her comics but now she's spending all of that same time on making her videos more complex. It'll be interesting to see how her attempt at rebranding looks. she's going to whine about it the whole time til she drops it though.

No. 740776

another video, this time by ZHC

No. 740864

>>740776
Who tf is this? Another drama channel? How can anyone stand listening to these dweebs

No. 740871

File: 1543534222303.jpg (37.9 KB, 300x300, IMG_4244.JPG)

>im working on my comic
>jk im making hamilton animations
>Rape doujin of her own comic (she had a whole 'im doing nsfw content!' Sometime before hamilton?)
>haha lol did i tell u im doing clever kitchen for school??
>Omg Such big zine plans u guyiz im doing so many!(failed at 1)
>Conventions r important 4 salez & having an art friend 2 feature & travel with (made no money back and got outed with outdated; narrowminded and straight up sick views of consent and victim blaming)
>im deleting everything
>actually jk working on my comics again and getting a job!
>NEW YT WITH EVEN MORE OVERLY COMPLICATED STEPS TO GET A SINGLE PRODUCT OUT THAT I HAVE NO GOAL NOR PLANS FOR.

Mfw

I just want her to either go nuclear or atleast fade into obscurity w 10 followers cause god I am tired of this turning into another circle of art cows who point fingers, teens picking sides while a small smaaaall minority (usually not even present on yt but congregate here) calls them all stupid

No. 740878

The second Holly Brown video from Creepshow

No. 740881

>>740878
Lol give her time and she'll be a worthy cow herself.

No. 740939

>>740776
Just another asshole on the "Let's make a vid on the HB" trend.

No. 740956

>>740776
I almost feel bad for Holly at this point, they're beating a rotting corpse of a horse at this point. I saw a recommended video of some shitter with like 100 subs milking the HB drama. It's such disgusting parasitic behavior. But I guess this is the most exciting thing to happen to the art tube community in ever.

>>740878
>makes a pointless HB video
>people start getting upset everyone's jumping on the bandwagon
>makes a CANT BELIEVE EVERYONE'S MILKING HB video

this girl.

No. 741082

Who are all these fuckers coming out of the woodwork????

No. 741112

>>741082
the less viewers they get, the more in the woodwork they stay. unless it's a good video or brings up something worth talking about, this is as useful as posting every single snap vid that momokun takes

No. 741188

File: 1543573735245.png (1.8 MB, 1480x1189, almost.png)

latest two ig stories

No. 741218

>>741188
That metaphor makes no sense, apart from one thing: They literally are kids, and Holly knows this, so why is she complaining? She normally doesn't tell them to stop behaving badly, because usually it benefits her.

No. 741236

>>741188
From what i can tell people are only arguing in one comment, max 3 people, and instead of commenting this to them to get them to stop she posted it on her instastories to play the victim again. Im so done with her shit

No. 741559

I keep getting recommended stupid commentary videos on the 'Holly Brown Issue' and these commenters are worse than Holly. I really hope we get more milk from Holly soon but I'm starting to think we might have killed our cow.

No. 741561

>>741559
Sure she's gonna want to lie low for a bit… but someone like holly? she can't just STOP barfing whatever she wants to on the internet. If she had any kind of restraint to begin with she wouldn't be dropping out of college because of debt.

No. 741566

>>741561
Why do so many people think Holly's milk is over? She's tried the "lay low" thing before and it certainly didn't last, this time won't either

No. 741597

>>741566
Being drama queens like holly

No. 741647

File: 1543630628088.jpeg (2.32 MB, 4032x3024, 02C07F78-DE51-4BF6-BE2E-8583A4…)

Anyone in the mood for some old-ish milk? I bought a sketchbook from her way back when she was still making them. Packaging was good, and surprisingly the sketchbook itself didn’t smell weird. As you can see there are some air bubbles in the lamination.

No. 741651

File: 1543630862315.jpeg (2.95 MB, 4032x3024, 9649851A-CA79-4D5E-A7AB-AEA063…)

Other issues included the staples coming out after using it for a while

No. 741652

File: 1543630910940.jpeg (1.34 MB, 4032x3024, 8AAF0CDA-2A4F-42CE-922D-B7BA02…)

I fixed it myself using needle and thread but all the staples were barely hanging on to the paper

No. 741655

File: 1543630975966.jpeg (2.18 MB, 4032x3024, 22F4DA1D-AB8C-4FC5-B44A-660856…)

Last post: the business cards, which despite having wonky art were pretty cool and memorable

No. 741668

>>741655
is that hershey on the one card? how long has she been drawing these characters without ever doing the comic?

No. 741670

>>741668
Yeah it’s Hershel. And WAY TOO LONG is the answer.

No. 741671

>>741655
>>741652
>>741647
>>741651
Damn, it's good that it was packaged well and all that, but it looks sort of cobbled together/amateurish? Hopefully Holly has improved since then. The red business card is pretty cool though. RIP Hershel without weird arm lines

On an unrelated note: Did anyone here watch (and remember) what Holly said in the deleted collab video Emily Artful was talking about? I'm incredibly curious, but it's kind of hard to search through the threads since she didn't say exactly when it was uploaded.

No. 741687

who tf is bumping all the ancient holly threads? please fucking stop.

>>741671
it was back when holly only had a few thousand subs, wasn't it? so probably long before we took notice of her (which was after she went viral with the calarts video).

No. 741796

I can help with the old emily collab drama. Basically she was invited to the collab and said she wasn't informed it was going to be the 'trading linearts' kind of style (i don't know what else she was expecting especially from youtube collaborations) and said she didn't like those and if she had known she wouldn't have accepted. Still she had plenty of time to drop out according to Emily i guess? But she didn't and still uploaded her video.
The swapping of art was random and I remember there were like 6 art youtubers? She traded art with a small art youtuber who was from spain (i think) and was barely 13 years old, so really a newbie into the whole art scene. Holly then proceeded to shat on the art line she got and 'fixed' the anatomy with the transform tool on photoshop without even asking the original artist. She was overall very rude and was whining the whole video holly style and shitting on emily and her collaboration and said she wont ever do it again and marketed as a super bad experience.
She didn't mention the other art youtubers who were part of the collab either as it was stated they all should do and didn't even link back to them on her description.
The sad part is that the original kid who gave his lineart to holly even commented on her video saying that the anatomy was wonky because it was a monster since it was a halloween themed drawing, and if you went to his youtube channel you could see it was not a lie since he had better anatomy in other drawings. I think she got a bit of backslash and deleted because of it. I am not buying into the whole 'matured' and decided to delete it narrative Emily tried to sell on her video.
I linked the kid's half of the trade since it's still up and you can see his original linework and holly's end of the trade.
I hope it made sense, I've been disgusted by holly for a long while now so i still remember.

No. 741820

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>>741796
In the comments. So Cinna has had it out for Holly for a while now. Yikes.

No. 741836

>>741796
Ty fam! Wow, that actually sounds a lot worse than what I was imagining, poor kid. It's pretty hard imagining that Holly would just realise this kind of behaviour is shitty all of a sudden, both back then and now. Also lol @ Holly complaining about someone else's anatomy

No. 741852

Holly has a lot of fucking nerve complaining about the kid's lineart when her own looks like that. The terrible proportions, the paw hands, the potato face, the kid's wasn't perfect but hers is way worse.

No. 741892

>>741796
I dont understand why she even participated, she literally cant play nice with others. I feel so fucking bad for the kid in the collab, he was being so nice to her. Just knowing she shat on him and the collab makes me dislike her more, idk how people are being so quick to forgive her when she literally has not changed as a person.

No. 741977

>>741820
I think this is just proof that she's had reason to dislike her for a long time more than anything else.

No. 742101

>>741796
wow, this makes Emily Artful even more scummy. She didn't defend a literal child against Holly's bullying. Scumbag.

No. 742145

>>741796
I remember this collab, yeah Holly was relentlessly shooting on this kid while on his half he was really polite. Another reason why no on should feel sorry for this bitch, she has no idea how to conduct herself

No. 742147

>>741796
This is genuinely sad. As an artist, I'd love collabing with an artist, even if they were a novice, but his art was actually a lot better than what Holly drew. It was amazing. I feel bad that he was saying "I want to respect her/respect her piece" but she couldn't share that same respect. That's fucking ridiculous.

How the fuck is she going to make it in the industry when she has difficulties just coloring someone else's art?
Holly is so popular and yet can't be even a little bit encouraging to other artists.

No. 742364

>>741796
I'd like to point out that the person who she traded with hasn't uploaded any new art at all in a long while and has deleted all their social media.
Wouldn't be surprised if they felt like shit cause of her and gave up drawing.

No. 742366

>>742364
Holly has less drive, tact and self-awareness (I really hope this kid just disconnected from the name/Internet and continued personally) than a literal preteen. And her side is sloppier than his, holy shit. Disgusted but not surprised. She's truly a miserable person to the core.

People (Adults) in this collab really saw that and didn't do or say anything? What the fuck is shielding Holly from what she deserves other than her own delusions?

No. 742391

File: 1543751315313.png (383.87 KB, 720x1192, Screenshot_2018-12-02-11-46-22…)

she's going all out it seems

No. 742392

>>742391
Room 100% clean now?? I won´t believe it till I see it

No. 742398

>>742101

Yeah honestly. As the person who created the collab group, Emily should have stepped in and said something about Holly's asshole attitude, especially after the video was uploaded for the world to see her shit on a 13 year old and not credit them.
Holly should have been called out then, but no, apparently that was 'edgy' and obviously on brand for her

No. 742418

>>742398
“Muh honesty” worths a lot more than respect, apparently.

No. 742432

>>742418
This. This is basically the mantra of her fans. "She's so brutally honest and not rainbows and sunshine like all the other artists".
Her honesty really is nothing but pure rudeness, based on non-exsiting self confidence. And her fans loved her for it - that's probably one of the biggest problems her channel always had. And one of the reasons why she never adopted a better attitude.

No. 742443

>>742418
>>742432
I hate to play the devil's advocate but Holly's awful personality is the only thing Holly had going for her channel. I mean her art isn't good enough to carry her channel and her 'tutorials' aren't helpful enough for people to stay subscribed for them. I guess Holly could have tried to turn into a story time channel but her life is too boring to make consistent story time videos.

No. 742497

>>742366
Not to WK but im pretty sure the other youtubers were in the less than 1k range while emily had barely 2.5k and holly had about 15k im pretty sure they didnt want her already growing fanbase to attack them for slandering her queen
Holly stans have always been pretty defensive of her

No. 742517


No. 742521

anyone know when holly complained about the pride parade? that's hypocritical, since she claims she's a fujoshi/bi wonman herself

No. 742527

>>742521
I don't think she has complained about pride parades specifically? She just doesn't like any kind of protesting or political engagement that she sees as too progressive. Fairy sure she's never said anything about parades (correct me if I'm wrong though) Also Holly only calls herself bi when someone says something about homophobia, fetishism or her being alt right lol

No. 742534

A couple livestream ago (she deleted them) she said she doesn't like/understand gay pride parades. How it was dumb and pervy

No. 742544

how does one manage to have such shitty opinions on pretty much every topic

No. 742553

>>742544
By having issues with empathy, being sheltered and being enabled by countless edgelord kids every day for several years

No. 742557

>>742527
>>742521
Unless it was in one of those deleted livestreams or videos, it hasn't been posted here.

No. 742560

>>742534
even though she deleted the streams, i don't need to see them to believe she said something like that. she has that "i like imagining men i'm attracted to as gay but hate actual gay men" vibe.

No. 742569

>>742534
I would've respected that opinion if it didn't come out of Holly's mouth. She literally sits in her messy room and draws guys fucking and enjoys it

No. 742603

>>742521
holly operates under "it's good when I do it and shit when everyone else does" mindset for literally everything.

No. 742807

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>spells "literally" wrong on a serious panel about suicide

No. 742841

>>742807
Not to mention the sentence structure is garbage.

No. 742894

>>742807
so he watched her hang herself without saving her? what?

No. 742899

>>742894
No, it refers to the human sacrifices in Holly's dark and serious world

No. 742934

>>742807
How hard would it be for Holly to type all her dialogue out on a word document before adding it to her comic? Seriously, with all these spelling and grammatical errors, I'm pretty sure Holly is either partially illiterate or dyslexic.

No. 742994

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Pretty sure this hasn’t been posted yet even though it’s old milk. I nearly had an aneurysm trying to decipher those paragraphs lol “dumb as rocks”

No. 743004

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I swear she's said this before

No. 743006

>>742994
>>743004
These posts go so well together. And yes, she did post about her eyes a little while back, so it's a little weird that she's repeating herself.

No. 743023

>>743006
Shes just trying to be special

No. 743092

>>742994>>743004

>I’m not dumb as rocks

>wow guys desaturated blue is grey X33 hehe the more u know

No. 743124

>>742807
are we not going to talk about how hanging is supposed to kill you by breaking you neck, not choking lol

No. 743127

>>743124
Nah, it depends on how short the drop is.

No. 743135

>>743124
only a tiny percentage of people who hang themselves get their cervical spine fractured, lol. do some research before roasting Holly

No. 743206

Might be old milk but Holly’s blogs are gone
Probably due to the Tumblr purge.

No. 743210

File: 1543876991105.png (47.28 KB, 1220x237, k1.png)

Keith is still my favourite, looks like he didn't appreciate the parody account lol

No. 743277

>>743124
This was mostly true for the gallows as the death penalty, but, I mean, you're not wrong

No. 743322

>>743135
>>743277
Yeah but these people aren't hanging themselves, they're being hung but the congregation or whatever. So unless they're into watching people squirm and choke to death…

No. 743414

>>743322
wouldn't it be more ritualistic to have someone strangle the sacrifice then? the whole "slowly hanging" thing seems a bit tacky for a ritual js

No. 743448

>>741559
I came here from a HC Brown drama video that popped in my recommendedations and yeah, it really seemed over the top. Seems like there are plenty of other artists wanting to grind their axes with Holly in an attempt to cover up how they're also bad at art. Seems really counterproductive for everyone involved.

No. 743541

>>743414
Hanging is easier to draw than someone strangling her lol. Also there’s noting narratively wrong with ritualistic hanging. I mean this doesn’t hold a candle to all the other stupid shit that has happened so far like the random time skip or poorly done rape scene.

No. 743553

>>743206
nah she deleted it herself a little while back

No. 743554

>>743541
LMAO in-fucking-deed

No. 743555

>>743448
The YouTube artist community is chalked full people so afraid of being called out that they adopt a sickly sweet persona. ‘Scandals’ like the Holly Brown drama are the only time these people feel safe to drop their facade and say something ‘mean’.

Honestly the whole reason people like Spechie and Holly ever even became popular is that they had a interesting personality compared to other YouTube artists. I mean sure their art was nothing special but it was interesting to listen to all the absurd things they had to say.

No. 743561

>>742807
I love how the rope just goes through her skull. The anons arguing about whether she suffocated or whether she broke her neck are both wrong. Someone obviously stabbed her through the skull with a rope!

No. 743607

File: 1543942524909.png (367.06 KB, 450x793, hol.png)

"Hey guys, so I wanted to do basically like a- an art giveaway because I need to make some commission… Commission examples, so if you have a character or if you LIKE a certain character you want me to draw give me ALL THE INFO - it cuts out
Give me all the info and references um… And it can be fan art, original characters, whatever! I just want ALL THE INFO ABOUT THEM so I don't randomly draw like a weird pose cause that's one thing that I found.. Happens. Just know that I'm gonna be using the commission example in my like.. Portfolio thing for my etsy, so if you don't want your character on my portfolio thing then you're not getting it for free, so! Just know that I'm doing that"

I'm guessing she didn't land that job after all

No. 743608

>>743607
has she realised that most artists who do commissions don't actually enjoy what every single client wants drawn and frequently wish they were doing their own thing? because that's why she stopped/refused to do commissions before.

No. 743612

>>743607
Wonder how long this will last considering she only likes drawing certain things.

No. 743616

>>743612
I would give it 3 days tbh
watch her make a video ranting about commissons or people asking for free art down the line after posting this .

No. 743622

LMAO she mentioned in her Instagram story that she had just finished two illustrations, and then right after she's like "OMG I deleted it guys why do I always do this why do I keep deleting things I've done this so many times with comic pages!!"

I just don't understand. How… How in the world do you delete a finished illustration. I understand accidentally not saving but it looked like it was saved because she had the completed PSDs opened in probably indesign or smth. So she deleted it AFTER having saved the final files.

How do you do that?!? I just want to know what goes through her mind when she clicks a finished image, delete it, and then empty the trash bin folder.

No. 743647

>>743622
Devil’s advocate here, maybe she just wasn’t confident enough to post the end results. After the tracing fiasco people are going to go through her stuff with a fine toothed comb.

No. 743652

>>743647
Maybe she shouldn't lie about it then or you know, better yet, admit when she references or traces shit.

No. 743659

File: 1543950009551.png (13.1 KB, 385x111, keithsad.png)

Ruh roh :(

No. 743660

>>743647
She was confident enough to post pretty much the final image on her instagram story but then 'deleted it' which is just silly. Like if you're not confident with it nobody's holding you at gunpoint to upload it you feel me? She could've just… not uploaded it without the fiasco of complaining about how she keeps deleting things

No. 743706

>>743607

off topic but dark hair really suits holly and makes her look nicer

No. 743741

I really want to initiate a commission from Holly, with a ton of correspondence, before finally saying "nvm ur style is bad" and ducking out(cowtipping)

No. 743786


No. 743793

>>743741
1 - sage and 2 - dont. The only thing i recommend is actually ordering a legit comission so we can see how badly she fucks it up

No. 743794

>>743741
is this Holly falseflagging so she can use this as a reason not to do the commissions

No. 743860

New upload

No. 743863

File: 1543970242217.png (2.67 MB, 1920x1080, Holly room.png)

>>743860

Here's her new and improved "clean" room

No. 743922

gotta get that obnoxiously long intro for ~ad revenue~

No. 743941

>>743863
its definitely far from clean but its a huge improvement considering how dirty and cluttered it was before

No. 743958

File: 1543980530591.png (641.56 KB, 393x745, Untitled.png)

>>743004
>>743607

she looks pleasant in these though ngl. Like, cleaner.

>>743860
don't quit your new day job to become a lumberjack holly geeze

The self roast of her old work is always tiresome when she actually had a slither potential back then, but was surprised at the quality of pic related

Honestly, do you reckon she will recover from her intolerable mental shit or is this just the calm before another storm? This honestly looks like she's uncancelling her ass with actual mild success

No. 743982

>>743958
the darker hair helps.

No. 744027

>>743863
Good job holly just a warning ning anything past step 1 of Jordan Peterson is garbage though

No. 744032

>>743860
I don't watch a lot of Holly's videos so I don't know if she's mentioned the reason before, but why does she have a fridge and a coffee maker in her bedroom of all places? It takes up so much space and creates unnecessary clutter.

No. 744054

her room is shaping up, I hope she can keep up with it instead of stopping halfway like usual. Dark hair looks better, too.

Did anyone else catch that she's getting rid of her traditional supplies AGAIN? Bad sign that the Holly BRown cycle is trying to worm its way back in already.

No. 744085

>>744054
i feel like holly always thinks in black and white so she probably thinks having any traditional supplies at this point = BAD when she could just stick to few supplies rather than getting rid of all of it. it's all or nothing with her lol

No. 744089

tbh im kinda worried about holly's eating habits. In her new vlog her neck is like really skinny while her face still has a lot of "fat" on it (most likely bloating) and thats a really common look for anorexic people.
It's good she is trying to get in shape but the starving herself is really starting to show.

No. 744091

>>744089
I think she just has a very round face, anon. I wouldn't tinfoil so soon when she has just come back.

No. 744093

>>744032

I think it was to keep some of her own food safe that she was buying so her brother wouldn't get to it.

No. 744099

>>743860
There's something oddly charming about that awfully drawn out shot of her cutting down that tiny tree.

As always she seems to be putting a ton of effort into the wrong stuff, like making all these graphics and spending a bunch of money on stock photos, but her room does look significantly better.

No. 744121

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>>744089
kek this is just what happens when you stick your camera right in your face. dunno why she does it all the time

No. 744138

>>744054
Of it was anyone but Holly I would say it was good they were selling off tools they didn't use so that they could have cash for more important things. Unfortunately Holly is probably going to invest that cash in more junk instead of setting it aside for living expenses now that she can't rely on YouTube.

No. 744162

>>743860
Oh god, that aesthetic tree cutting montage fucked me up along with the weird sped up clip of Holly making coffee, it's like she's trying to force an image change based on the weirdest things. Her plans for the new channel seems needlessly complicated as well, I'm exited for the inevitable trainwreck.

No. 744202

>>744162
Her editing and aesthetic might be one of the stronger points of her videos so it would be a good idea to spend more time on it just imo, but I wish holly could balance that with the time spent on the art, voiceover, and content too. Maybe editing will be good for her, it’s a creative thing that’s not necessarily art. I think spergs like us especially need some nice repetitive tasks to ease the mind once in a while. I prefer the sims..

No. 744203

>>744202
I would agree if it weren't for the abrupt way some of her clips just transition into each other.

No. 744206

>>744202
I would agree if it weren't for the abrupt way some of her clips just transition into each other.

No. 744393

>>743607
Kinda on the fence about that etsy thing - sure, many people make a living from it, but they usually have quite unique items, or if it's just pictures at least they sell multiple items with prints of different pictures (mousepads, shirts…).
If Holly really intends to make that her job she will need a lot more than just a few personalized sketchbooks and stickers. Looking at her sales so far (about 140) within 3 years or so, in correlation with her prices that's maybe a grant she made through that side, 2000 if we're generous. That's basically nothing, if we're talking about making a living or an alternative to flipping burgers.

No. 744413

>>744393
Etsy is a pretty good idea for Holly simply because she actually is ok when it comes to product design. Unfortunately if she is just going to use Etsy to sell more merch of her comic that has literally less than 20pgs she isn’t going to get far.

No. 744510

it's really pissing me off how her old artworks are actually good. like. she chooses to do the ugly art style or what?

No. 744570

(sage for personal opinion/rant)
Hearing Holly talk about throwing away all of her old artwork made me wince physically. Hundreds of inked pages from Purgatory and another story, in addition to dozens of studies.
Some of the unfinished studies, I understand, or even old sketchbooks, but original art for your published book?! Even if she hates the art now, she could put the pages in a large portfolio album… she doesn't have storage? A basement, an attic? Or she could sell it in bundles online, like 10 pages or so. Shipping would be dirt cheap, so she could sell it for almost nothing if she wanted. There are people who enjoy collecting original work. Or if she goes to cons, she could sell bundles there. Or even give them away! I dunno–throwing them away just seems antithetical to art-making.
I don't say this out of malice. If she does this as a way to "purge" negative emotions and low confidence, then I guess I understand.
Is it common to throw away old artwork? I've kept most of my finished stuff from college. I will admit I'm biased towards sentimentality.

No. 744587

>>744570 I even saw a bunch of comments beneath her video, saying that they´d happily buy some of those pages/pieces from her. Holly´s attitude towards her old art always baffles me…
I like looking at what I did in the past and comparing it to my current work to appreciate how far I´ve come and I really don´t get why she can only cringe at her old stuff

No. 744598

>>744570
I dunno, I have all my old sketchbooks and traditional pieces dating back to middle school and I'm 30. I guess I can understand people tossing that stuff because there's only so much stuff you can keep in storage, if I started running out of room in my office for all my stuff I guess I'd toss it.

Her throwing away the comic pages is nuts, though. I'm sure there are people who would buy the originals. I also can sympathize with wanting to just toss everything and starting over but she could actually make money off some of that. Same with the art supplies, if she tosses them instead of selling she's an idiot.

No. 744632

>>744570
Saged
I kinda get it though. You have a pretty big community of people telling you your art is shit (among other things), you kind of associate the old drawings with the people who criticized/insulted them.
I think the choice is very dumb though.

No. 744683

>>744570
There are a good amount of people who would be happy to buy her originals off her if she sold them at a reasonable price. I mean even some people on here might like a piece of Holly memorabilia.

No. 744710

>>744683 lmao…. now, now, anon.

No. 744711

>>744710
Lol what? I mean I also would enjoy having an original from Chris-chan so it's not saying much!

No. 744752

>>744570
I've really only ever kept things that have sentimental value ,ect
but the rest i either scan and then throw out .

No. 744800

in that new vlog she mentions her brother being in rehab now, any thoughts?

No. 744850

Can someone catch me up on why she was having problems with her brother?

No. 744864

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No. 744872


No. 744875

>>744850
This is just what we know from her, so there's a good chance it's at least slightly embellished in some way but according to Holly her brother is a drug addict/dealer, possibly violent, steals her thing etc. I think she said in a deleted livestream that she's always hated him though, so they've probably never gotten along, even before the drugs.

No. 744908

>>744875
It is possible he is a drug addict. But I will kek if he is selling legal cannabis or something

No. 744932

File: 1544139013017.png (17.96 KB, 631x183, 2018-12-07 10_29_15-restarting…)

>>744908
>>744875
this is from her latest vlog.

No. 744957

>>744908
you come here from Pull? this is their fucked instinct: the cow is a stinky head so any people around her are precious beebees who need me.
He's been in jail for the drug shit

No. 745007

>>744800
>>744850
>>744908

Sage your shit. Holly's brother isn't really milk. He supposedly sold drugs, got arrested and I guess is now in rehab. Quit detailing and focus on the actual milk we have.

No. 745168

File: 1544171749003.png (538.05 KB, 720x924, Screenshot_2018-12-07-08-33-30…)


No. 745169

File: 1544171779538.png (395.29 KB, 720x1016, Screenshot_2018-12-07-08-33-40…)


No. 745172

>>745169
reese looks so much like her

No. 745206

>>745168
That looks nothing like eminem wtf

No. 745224

>>745169
>>745168
Wtf are all those lines???

No. 745228

>>745224
Instagram was glitchy yesterday and had lines on everything.

No. 745271

>>745169
Reese looks like a flat chested girl here (but doesn't he always)

No. 745308

>>745271
It's Damien all over again

No. 745316

>>745308
Unpopular opinion anons and I get where you guys are coming from but I legit never through Damien looked like a girl. I always thought he was a poorly drawn 12 year old boy. Reese does look exactly like Holly in the face tho lmao

No. 745328

File: 1544209179634.png (1.03 MB, 720x1181, Screenshot_2018-12-07-18-57-06…)

deltarune? fanart

No. 745336

Just checked Holly’s vlog channel.
She deleted all her past vlogs and the newest is left.

Side note :
My early twenties to my memory are some of the most cringe inducing times in my life. Seeing Holly document her metamorphosis from emo-teen to edge lord adulthood has given me real piece of mind.

No. 745350

>>745336
Damn, I kind of wanted to save the "how can anyone think I'm a lesbian" video, oh well.

>>745328
Lol, I thought video games were stupid and just for hobbyist who fuck around all day? Guess Holly just liked the design, didn't she say something about not making fan art for stuff she doesn't like though? Or maybe that was someone else

No. 745355

File: 1544212290366.jpg (441.66 KB, 1840x1334, 37058015_10216056995876112_487…)

you guys know that Hershal and brown pimpler are both stolen from a Manga she reads right?

No. 745362

>>745355
"Stolen" might be a little much, but yup - that's been discussed a couple of times since she said her art was on the same level as the Avivalae artist's stuff.

No. 745383

>>745355
This has alreday been discussed in past thread s

No. 745423

>>745355
They are both just Yaoi tropes personified with a bit of 'diversity' sprinkled in. Past threads also pointed out similarities between the Reese and a 'dream daddy' character.

No. 745429

>>745350
Anon lots of people play video games, its just a hobby like anything else one does to pass the time. She probably played a bit of it since undertale was a pretty simple game to get into so i would imagine the second one woukd be as well

No. 745444

>>745429
Holly went on a sperg fest against video games and artist that play them in a stream once. She was rude and over the top as usual that’s probably what anon is referring to.

No. 745446

>>745169 $55 for no color and its not even a full body? The scribble background takes up most of the space anyways

No. 745477

>>745446
Some Holly-stans who have stuck with her through all the drama might pay that. Also the price tag deters trolls from commissioning her so there's that too.
Seriously it's better for Holly to have really high prices and get a couple of requests that she might actually finish than for her to do this for dirt cheap and actually never get through all the requests like I think she did last time she opened commissions.

No. 745494

>>745168
that face is just.. ugh.. her art is so god damn hideous

No. 745503

>>745355
How HARD can it be for Holly to learn the ACTUAL name of that stupid fucking comic she loves so much. Sure, Avialae is a weird word but it's possible to commit it to memory ffs

No. 745528

>>745355
>>745503
Woah that’s ridiculous wtf lol

No. 745672

>>745444
Oof lol does anyone have the stream saved or know where i can find it. I love seeing her unfiltered rants where she constantly fucks up by targeting traits that the majority of her fans have lol

No. 745724

>>745362
"same level"
Damn, that's laughable. Just checked the comic out and while it's far from perfect, it's miles ahead of Holly. Not to mention that the creator seems to actually upload pages and doesn't abandon it for making tons f merch

No. 745771

File: 1544283239556.png (698.99 KB, 881x682, idkidk.png)

idk but idk

No. 745776

I D K
D
K(non-contribution)

No. 745779

>>745771
Again, some proof that she couldn't care less about making art, but rather wants to hold a finished product in her hands (but considering how half-assed she always does things, it's going to be a disaster and it will be everyone's fault but hers, as per usual)

No. 745812

File: 1544291835275.png (368.38 KB, 449x804, deltah.png)

So she's saying on insta stories that she'll be making Deltarune sprite ornaments or something, but it's sort of confusing. Holly isn't stupid/lazy enough to just put assets from the game on her products and selling them, right? (Especially an indie project, even if it's popular)

No. 745831

>>745812
What is their stance on fan art? A lot of indie game devs are against it but some are okay with it. I know I've seen Undertale fab art but it was at a really small con.

No. 745833

>>745831
I would say smaller indie companies are kind of against it considering that money would be taken away from the merch that they would eventually sell.I usually try to stay on the safe side and ask first before making a quick buck.
I know Andrew Hussie was really big on there being no Homestuck fanart and cosplay costumes being massed produced for a good while.

No. 745838

File: 1544294992839.png (248.5 KB, 504x878, dr.png)

>>745831
No idea, but this isn't really fanart though? Looks like an image directly from the game, haven't played it though so maybe I'm misunderstanding.

No. 745842

>>745838
it's not exact, could be a partial trace. you can tell by how fucked up the outer leg became that it's her work lol

No. 745851

>>745842 Even if she traced it or not, it is just the sprite but with flat colors and no pixelated look

No. 745855

>>745851
and way less detail in the hands lmao

No. 745878

>>745838

Holly "I don't trace for final products" Brown strikes again!

though i guess if it's for her own use that's not technically bad

but if she's planning on using this as a way to go 'hey look this is how to make an ornament' I feel like she's using this 'original art' to draw in delta rune fans whens he has like millions of art pieces she could slap on an 'ornament', whatever that means.

No. 745894

>>745878
I'm pretty sure this is just for a tutorial on how to make ornaments. I mean even if it wasn't she will still claim it was traced for that reason and not to pass it off like her own work.

No. 745913

File: 1544307806752.png (63.32 KB, 598x714, commss.png)


No. 745916

>>745913
I remember when she opened comissions earlier this year and then only posted one comission on her instagram. She kept bragging about how many commissions she had but we never saw any?? And she never brought them up again? I cant see this working well for her.

No. 745924

>>745916
But anon, she's a changed woman now! You'll see, she totally won't quit after two weeks and start complaining about difficult customers.

No. 745938

I'm pretty sure Toby Fox said to not make fanmerch that was just a replica of the assets of the game (that was for Undertale and not Deltarune but I think it's fair to assume he has the same policy on both)

No. 745941

>>745913
> -duh

No. 745951

>>745812
I don't think she traced this. Just look at all the bumps and curves that don't exist in the original and lack of detail on the cape. Heavily referenced yes but I think this is trace free.

No. 745953

>>745951
Does it even matter if she intends to sell it? It's not like she did anything artsy enough with it to claim any copyright

No. 745960

>>745953
True, heavily referenced things shouldn't be put up for sale anyway.

Also, did she paint that? I thought she was getting rid of her traditional stuff.

No. 746006

Exact replica doesn’t mean it was traced, this is a direct rip of the sprite. Not that I care but still. I sell at AAs and specific license holders are against the rules. And on Etsy technically everything copyrighted is. It goes back to the license holders specific stance on the matter. Not that anyone is going to come after her tho lol. It’s the mass produced shit companies care about not Christmas ornaments on Etsy like 5 people will buy.

No. 746064

>>746006
But isn't a direct rip even worse, since you put no time into it at all?

No. 746163

File: 1544343829687.png (971.52 KB, 751x751, 5f678d4a8ef8482ecbf9237384887d…)

i cant get over how stupid this sketchbook is, unfinished wood cover and basically printer paper inside

No. 746190

>>746163
Seriously, wtf is going on there? My brain can't find the form that is supposed to be there? I can see a fat body but where is the head?? All I see is hair? Is that thing standing backwards?

No. 746199

>>746190
guess most of her hair covers her face (Holly went the lazy route) and she has a huge round nose, for some reason

No. 746202

>>746199
Wait, where do you see the nose? I thought her head was angled to the right, and that she didn't have a nose at all..

No. 746213

File: 1544351666446.jpg (199.47 KB, 720x955, 1525569855319.jpg)

>>746163

the original piece for anyone wondering what the fuck that is

No. 746219

File: 1544353065111.jpeg (119.28 KB, 1701x892, 024EBECF-77BB-4CEA-8D54-4B75F7…)

>>745812
Its an image from the game…It takes 1 minute to look it up. Is she actually passing this off as her own?

No. 746227

File: 1544354724070.jpg (93.53 KB, 271x490, tracing overlay.jpg)

>>745812
>>745838
>>746219
She changed some minor things, but it matches overall.

No. 746231

File: 1544355314441.gif (1.5 MB, 245x250, 68747470733a2f2f73332e616d617a…)

>>746227
Holly "I do not trace" Brown

No. 746233

I don't think she's trying to pass it off as her own this time, but taking art that isn't hers for products or tutorials without asking the original artist is pretty dumb, she could just use her own art. Also it's still weird that Holly is trying to ride the Deltarune hype train despite not playing or liking games, but whatever.

No. 746236

>>746227
>>746231
the text on her story is 'seems meh gonna tweak it up a little', leaving open the possiblity she is saying 'here's the game art - now see how what i draw will be more exciting than it'. We'll see. if she tries to sell copyrighted work…well, we'll see

No. 746238

>>745812
a reminder that Holly herself said she is not a free hand artist. All her deltarune fan art is based on existing poses. She just changed a vew lines because she's a lazy cunt.

No. 746239

>>746238
Why not just… draw Kris herself. Y'know, like how she drew Rouxls Kaard.

What was the point in just taking a asset from the game and converting it to smooth vectors.

No. 746250

>>746227
Pretty sure she just ran it through software that vectorizes images. I know Inkscape can give you the same results in a couple of clicks.

No. 746257

File: 1544362225569.gif (247.57 KB, 220x220, tenor.gif)

>>746227
god dammit holly. I was rooting for you. I thought you were gonna turn shit around man. why are you like this?

No. 746259

>>746239
it's probably because she wants to fuck rouxls kaard, unlike kris.

No. 746267

i'm not defending holly but what is going on in this thread. she never even stated she was going to sell these, did she? i assumed she was just making crafty fanart ornaments similar to how kaseythegolden makes little felt ornaments for /a youtube video./ it just seems like cutesy basic crafty shit to me.

No. 746277

>>746267
Main difference being that making felt ornaments means sewing, cutting, patterning yourself.
She literally took the sprit from a game and is trying to make ornaments from them and has said on her insta that she's going to post them online so that people with cricut machines can make their own deltarune ornaments.
Though I guess if you were to compare this to anything, it'd be like the people who basically trace the art from shows to turn them into enamel pins. That's a much better comparison.

Eitherway vectorising the pixel sprite from a pixel game seems like the most backwards thing possible

No. 746282

>im gonna start making crafting videos idk lol
>hello and welcome to my copy paste tutorial

No. 746287

>>746267
Holly prides herself as an artist, a freelance professional artist. People who trace an already existing picture to make physical ornaments don't usually go around calling themselves "professional freelance artist and a creator" and if they do, they get called "art thieves" rightfully so. How you gon act like such a pro in art when you can't even draw your own design of the already existing character so you just blatantly trace it? Holly is a hack and I wish you all would stop cuddling her

No. 746295

>>746267
You sound a bit like her fans now "She never explicitly stated she was going to do this and that!"
Well, if we learned one thing from 15 threads it's that she doesn't make anything artsy for herself. If she makes something it's either to gain recognition or money - and in this case, whichever it is, she doesn't even use her own ideas for it

No. 746325

File: 1544372864230.png (17.97 KB, 673x213, Unbenannt.png)

Her profile text on etsy is gold btw - sure, full time student AND working AND having 2 shops on top
My god, the pandering…

No. 746339

>>746325
She really needs to update that description considering she's not a student anymore kek

No. 746340

>>746325
She really needs to update that description considering she's not a student anymore kek

No. 746346

rip paranormal plague

No. 746398

>>746346
And the rest of Purgatory, I guess

No. 746475

sage for no contribution but what program does she use to animate? I'm curious to know if she sucks cuz of the program she uses, she just has no understanding of how animation works or a combination of both.

No. 746477

>>746475
Wasn't it TVPaint? I remember the saga a few threads ago, when she wanted it so badly that she took donations from her fans to get it (whick worked out) and said she would make tutorials and everything…
Well, she probably barely took the time to learn it, since that would take some actual devotion

No. 746481

>>746477
>>746475

She took donations but in the end I believe she used her tax refun to pay for it and pocketed the money she got from fans.

TVPaint itself is a pretty good program, Holly just doesn’t know basic animation principles.

No. 746492

>>746481
I was going to say that it's a pretty decent program, if you know what you're doing and take your time like you're supposed to, you can make amazing animations with it.
I just starting to read up on Holly, and everything about her attitude over animation is just infuriating… animation is about taking your time and really learning the basics and fundamentals of it. If you can't do that, then why even bother with it? You really gotta love it, there are no short cuts in animation.
I think I saw her ripping into Richard Williams' book if I remember from my quick read of the threads? What was she complaining about?

No. 746510

>>746492
Seriously? I must have missed that but if it's true Holly is literally the worst possible person to learn anything from - that book is basically the holy bible for animators (for a good reason) and I'm saying that as an actual animation student

No. 746557

>>746492

TVPaint is an amazing programme and honestly so easy to use. But Holly doesn't understand the principles of animation, which you can learn from a 12 minute video on YouTube. But I'm sure she thinks she's already a master at it or something.

No. 746566

File: 1544401131951.png (210.84 KB, 1075x477, Unbenannt.png)

Well, I guess she doesn't sell after all - the sales count has stayed the same for 2 weeks, but she uploaded the rest of her storenvy stuff today. Lo and behold, the Kiki painting is "only" a 100 bucks now. Anyone tempted yet?

On the other hand, it seems like she has deleted all of her old shops now. No idea why, doesn't seem very strategic to me

No. 746686

>>746566
I mean I understand it probably took Holly a long time to make the piece but does she really think her stans can afford this? If she really wants the money she would be better off selling the comic pages/other work she's planning to throw out. I can see people pay $10 or so to own some of her original work.

No. 746689

>>746686

Dunno if you were here for it but you should've seen the price before it was like $350.

It's such a sloppy, ugly painting though so I'm not surprised she's still trying to cut the price for it. Lowering the price won't make it look more appealing on a wall.

No. 746746

File: 1544425825264.png (568.17 KB, 452x792, ha.png)

hahahahaha

No. 746747

>>746566
as much as I'd love to own a holly original, a bunch of bread floating in space isn't really appealing for any price. all she had to do was make the background a table and it would've been a way more cohesive piece.

No. 746772

>>746746
Is her anatomy getting worse? Nothing in this picture looks even remotely right. Must be a sad "hahahaha"

No. 746799

>>746772
It’s possible that this one is 100% freehand since she usually just traces art dolls from a program she has.

No. 746853

>>746746
I hate how Ash´s hands are just floating in this pose. nobody holds their arms like this unless they pry them up on a table??

No. 746854

>>746746
for a hot second, I thought she was holding books ????????????
holly honey you really really need to go back to the basics or something this regression is sad really.

No. 746867

>>746853
I think she’s going for a ‘oh bless your heart’ kind of pose given the context? What really confuses me is what Hershel is trying to do. Is he trying to flash her? I mean that’s not really how that works…

No. 746884

>>746867
I think it's a "Come inside my jacket to get warm" pose? You NEVER know with Holly

No. 746926

God she's so bad at writing. She makes Hershel a womanizer who is 'straight' with one exception. She's a fucking cliche at this point. Hershel is as bisexual as Holly is kek.

No. 746938

>>746926
doesn't surprise me since it's a common yaoi trope

No. 747046

>>746926
>'Hershel is as bisexual as Holly is kek.'

Is Holly even calling herself bi anymore lol. I remember she got so insulted for 'looking like a lesbian' in some video or another.

Also I love how the only reason the audience thinks Hershel is a womanizer is because Holly said so. Like from the art Holly has posted he just comes off as a hot headed 'butt monkey' who is too stupid to realize that it's probably not a good idea to hang out with a rapist who literally drugged him.

No. 747078

File: 1544479842545.jpg (77.78 KB, 675x900, holly is already tracer.jpg)

>>746566

sorry if this has already been discovered but her painting is 100% a bastardization of this folder, which is an official product for the movie

No. 747080

>>747078
the only reason I know this is because I own the folder and thought that her painting looked familiar… now I know

No. 747081

>>747078
And here I was, thinking that it was because Holly thinks she can draw food well (spoiler: she doesn't) Has she ever had a single creative bone in her body?

No. 747083

>>747078
is she like physically incapable of coming up with anything on her own? jfc og folder is v cute anon, I'm sorry for holly's crimes against you and the franchise

No. 747103

>>747101
didnt know it was weab to own a japanese waterboiler…

No. 747137

>>747103 Why is she harassing that lizard?

No. 747148

>>747103
I don't get it. If she publicly says that she wants to start all over, wouldn't the toxic people from her old account just migrate to her new account? Usually, you don't announce this kind of shit if you really want to start all over and get rid of toxic people.

I just don't get Holly's thought process.

No. 747167

>>747078
lmao i was just thinking hers looks like a wrapping paper design except she didn't know how to make it tiled

No. 747182

>>747103

>"Some people say it's meant to be drippy but I can't do it, I just can't do it. I can't do it. It's too gross I can't do it."


Says the person who made a very very very very rapey comic and has made a whole sexual assault scene, but a drippy cartoon lip is just too much?

No. 747191

>>747103
god the second half of this video

Holly, go to a therapist! Deal with your issues while you're semi-lucid, please!

No. 747225

>>747078
holly never fails to disappoint, huh.

No. 747262

>>747103
Still airing her dirty laundry huh…

No. 747482

>>747103
she so ronery
why does she think anyone wants to know about her rusty water boiler

No. 747517

>>747482
because people asked about it and it's her casual vlog channel lol

i'm glad she is able to self reflect better these days

No. 747545

File: 1544554064395.png (46.55 KB, 1250x328, 2018-12-11 19_42_33-Random psy…)

>>747103
As usual she has all these enablers around her who tell her that "YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE OMG", and as much backlash as she gets this is still the majority of her fanbase. It seems a serious hindrance to any personal development.

Sometimes you're just acting like a toxic asshole, and it's not just "the sjws pushing people's buttons". Glad she's trying to self-reflect though, that wasn't too bad.

No. 747593

I hope she uploads a new art video soon bc she talked about everything matching an aesthetic and honestly I have no idea what she means (or why it matters).

Also, she really needs to stop making merch and focus on making her art better. A lot of the art assignments she showed were pretty good. Idk why she refuses to use what she learned.

No. 747712

>>747593
A lot of Holly's art assignments seemed good because she traced from photos. There was a vlog she posted a while back where she just traced a head study and added shadows to it. I believe Holly 'justified' this as being ok because the main point of the assignment was to learn how light and shadows work and she didn't want to 'waste time' drawing the head.

Seriously at this point I'm not really sure how much of her work isn't traced. Like between the whole Al drama and the recent information about the Kiki poster it seems like Holly heavily 'references' a lot of her stuff.

No. 747728

>>747712
Do you know where that video is? I would be interested in checking that shit out.

No. 747743

>>747728
Planing to make a 'thoughts on Holly' video anon? Seriously though I'm pretty sure the video itself has been purged by now but I remember we had a discussion about it on one of these threads. If no one posts it by tomorrow I'll give it a try and find it when I get back home.

No. 747781

>>747712 I wonder if students who were in the same class are aware of Holly's reputation online.

No. 747824

>>747781
At least one of her fellow classmates know. Someone from her class posted on one of the old threads?

No. 747943

File: 1544605949739.png (764.55 KB, 720x1168, Screenshot_2018-12-12-09-10-40…)

charming

No. 747949

File: 1544606853060.png (754.56 KB, 1600x816, okholly.png)


No. 747952

>>747943
holly pls no one wants to fuck reese but u

No. 747958

>>747949

>elbows him in the crotch region

>reacts by wrapping his arms around his stomach

how does this make any sense

No. 747964

>>747949
>shading
>not shielding

No. 747968

>>747949
imagine being Holly's age and still thinking that hitting a man in the crotch is quirky and cute. This "violence is funny" thing she has is some pre-teen anime shit.

No. 747989

>>747949
It took me so long to realise that the girl was sitting at a table. rip

No. 747990

>>747949
the whole scene is just bizarre to me. Why does she sit at a glass table… outside? What kind of setting is this?

No. 747991

>>747968
It’s so cringe and early 2000 anime. Guy sexually harasses girl, girl physically assaults guy for the luuuuuuulz oh so funny.

No. 747993

>>747949
im really annoyed by the fact the legs of the table dont line up with the corners of the table top, as if that shit is just floating

No. 747995

>>747993
that's how glass tables work anon

No. 748014

>>747993
I'm more annoyed she gives up on the glass table on the second panel like she goes halfway with the shirt which I thought was some weird reflection, and the rest of the body just doesn't exist.

I get comic making is taking shortcuts when it comes to shit like this but that's why you… don't make a glass table… because you're screwing yourself over HAHA.

No. 748019

>>748014
i know the milk's dry but this is forced nitpicking. you're allowed to change emphasis to or from elements in different panels

No. 748020

>>748017

Yeah, It saves time from having to redraw details when they're unnecessary. Or else comics would get way too cluttered. and it would lose the sense of action. Though in this case the glass table isn't properly established so it looks like a railing followed by a table.

What she could've done is to add a line of white right along the edge of the glass table, so she would be showing the rest of the body she's drawn like she wants, but also establishing it as a glass table. Or even more, just select where the bodies are seen under the table, erase a tiny line where it meets the edges of the glass table, and then just move it a bit to the left or right so it creates the artificial 'distortion'.

But yeah at this point this and everything I just wrote was nitpicking and giving critique to someone who ain't even here, whoops

No. 748021

File: 1544626643892.png (543.93 KB, 1249x845, instapp.png)

Very melty and crotchy Instagram updates

No. 748024

>>748021
loving how THICC hershel looks in that trenchcoat it looks like he's hiding something in there

No. 748025

File: 1544627169436.jpg (41.2 KB, 800x450, nope.jpg)

>>747943
Let's not

No. 748026

>>748024
He looks slightly pregnant.

No. 748072

>>748021

The problem with her art is mainly that there is no fluidity. There is a great tip for artists - human body has no straight line. And with Holly she either uses completely straight lines or bend ones, there is no inbetween. The result of that is her art stiffness.

As someone who creates art for a long time I wouldn't say Holly has an actual talent for it. Don't get me wrong even people with no real talent can do amazing art pieces, but then it's mainly based on skill. When it comes to talented artists a big part of what makes the picture interesting is the emotion it conveys, the fluidity and playfullness of lines, making it seem very simple but is very complex to make.

And that is why I think her art is very bland. She has characters, but no story to tell, they are all very bland and lifeless, there is no patricular mood, emotion or atmosphere in her story. I truly believe that it's because Holly herself is really plain and mean-spirited person, who sees art as nothing but a thing she does and don't really like, she doesn't think about anything beyond making a piece, not creating, conveying emotion or even simply improving herself and it shows in her art.

No. 748110

>>748021
Lol no one gonna mention Princess' stupid thigh gap that makes one of her legs an actual stilt? Brings me back to her Anatomy Mistakes video where she gave a bunch of bad advice for how to draw womens legs and crouches. Apparently women always have a thigh gap unless they are far. Okay then lol. Good to see her 'studies' are paying off. (Holly if you're reading this that is really really not how hips work.)

No. 748126

>>747958
When you get hit in the balls you usually do feel the pain in your abdomen so Holly isn't wrong there.

No. 748141

>>747943
>>747949
Holly totally missed the opportunity to dress Hershel up in the stupid shirt so that Ash would actually have a reason to deck his balls. Instead she created a weird comic where Ash comes off as a psycho.

No. 748201

>>747949
Sorry, but can somebody explain why the fuck Ash would whack him in his balls? Because she thinks it's funny?

No. 748204

>>748141
especially because she goes from being happy in the first panel to just.. hitting him in the balls?
agreed that a stupid shirt would have been way better, but this is Holly, so

No. 748239

>>748204
It's supposed to be like Sango and Maroku..very aged humor imo.

No. 748242

>>748201
Yep, Holly seems to have that 2007 anime mindset of "it's funny when girls assault guys!!" It's incredibly common in anime to have a girl scream "Pervert!" and punch the dude, and it's supposed to be funny.
Git gud, Holly, if you want to be funny, then write something funny for once instead of relying on juvenile comedy.

No. 748294

>>748021
Is princess wearing depends under her pull up mom jeans or what

No. 748309

>>748294
I mean Holly has been infantilizing her with each new drawing sooo…

No. 748433

>>748239
>>748242
but, like, what he's doing isn't sexual or harassing. it's a kind gesture. unless there's some kind of crotch thrust she should have emphasized, it reads as either nonsense or that the chick is a total psycho in a bad way

No. 748445

>>748021
ash wearing a tanktop while hershey is wearing a huge flasher trenchcoat in the same picture is really funny to me for some reason

No. 748457

>>748433
I think the "joke" here is that she's misinterpreting the gesture as him trying to flash her, but it doesn't work because in the first panel she's smiling and looking right at him and then in the second she's suddenly angry and elbowing his dick.

No. 748462

>>748457
HOLLY YOUR STORY-TELLING SUCKS

No. 748478

File: 1544693707901.png (2.7 MB, 2048x1167, 04aabaea-7995-44a3-b650-2a5829…)

latest 3 ig stories
i dunno what she's going on about in that second one

No. 748520

>>748478
>i dunno what she's going on about in that second one
There is a very small chance you can go blind from LASIK, Holly's just being dramatic (or she didn't bother to actually read on it).

No. 748672

File: 1544726199311.png (510.03 KB, 466x830, idkidkidk.png)


No. 748777

>>748672

How can ignore that eye is beyond my understanding

No. 748843

>>748072
This is a very legitimate criticism. Her lines are not lifelike and she has a bad problem with tangents, just like how her thought process is tangential. I’d say that Holly’s art is actually very expressive.. See it’s just the thing she’s expressing is stuborbness and rigidity .

No. 748854

>>747949
why is he holding his stomach if he got elbowed in the dick???

No. 748861

>>748854
Refered pain. Being kicked in the balls makes your stomach hurt.

No. 748862

File: 1544745392430.png (55.27 KB, 934x269, 2018-12-13_175409.png)

looks like we will be getting a video on the vine situation (?) and holly rant
wasn't expecting to see his on my feed tbh ,I thought since everything died down and i didn't see anything by cinna that she wouldn't do the video .

No. 748863

*zine not vine

No. 748899

File: 1544750857045.png (539.92 KB, 465x818, mcr.png)


No. 748914

>>748672
You've heard of Dreamworks eyebrows, now get ready for its new and improved version: Holly Brown eyES

No. 748918

>>748672
>litterally

No. 748972

>>748899
maybe she'll learn to make them look recognizable when drawn before then

No. 749202

>>748899
I wouldn't say her art was ever aesthetically pleasing, but THIS looks so ugly and lazy in comparison to her other sketches

No. 749254

Her obsession with MCR is so fucking weird!! I get being in fandom and loving fictional characters but having 'headcanons' and 'ships' for real people is just spastic imo.

No. 749311

>>749202
I disagree. It's lazy and generic but it actually looks a lot cuter than her usual stuff.

No. 749335

>>748899
It's kinda ironic and sad that Gerard Way can draw way better than she does

No. 749339

>>748899
Does she draw anything that isn't almost a decade out of date? Her views on gay people, her early 2000's faux manga art style and now MCR? Also her keyboard grosses me tf out.

No. 749353

>>748862
>8min ago
>2 likes, one being you

Can cinna be a banned topic on this thread already, nobody cares about their two cents.

No. 749359

>>748899
seeing this made me think, what ever happened to that animation she was doing? the shitty hospital scene thing? i can't find evidence of it bc i think it was only on her twitter..

No. 749376

>>749359
Probably the same thing that happened to 'Clever Kitchen' lol.

I'm just surprised Holly has managed to stay out of drama for this long.

No. 749382

I've actually had all I can physically take of Holly lmao.

First there's the whole rape thing, she tried to defend herself and say people took it out of context and that she was just joking with a friend but if you're gonna be on livestream you should take that shit seriously. And no matter the situation, you can't say that "oh you know you like it" if someone said no to having sex because you have a rape fetish. I myself have a bit of a rape kink but Holly fails to understand how to separate her kink and reality. She just tosses it in there all willy nilly and then thinks saying shit like "He has Stockholm Syndrome" (which she completely gets wrong due to the fact that she picked one symptom and ran with it) and "If I didn't want it I would have stopped you" (that should be self explanatory why it's bad lmao) can make the fact that what she said and makes any better.

Secondly, she's a fujoshi. That already speaks volumes, fujos are already homophobic by nature but says he wants to pull the "I'm actually bi so it's okay" card and then turn around 5 minutes later and says she's straight. She only uses the LGBT community as a shield so she can keep doing her gross shit.

Honestly it's amazing people still like her.

No. 749389

>>749382
Preach motherfucker

No. 749402

>>748899
Our ofvall 5 brand members it’s only mikeys hair she gets correct. We don’t wanna see artists wallow in their middle school fantasies, we want to see them grow, face the challenges ahead like the uncaring adoptive mother and abusive brother. I’m waiting holly

No. 749431

>>748024
God damn it, I lold. I spent so long trying to work out what the lines to the left of his buttons were. It looks like his arms are inside the trench-coat and the sleeve is a cardboard cutout decoy so no one notices he's jacking it.

>>749353
careful, I got banned last time I suggested that.

No. 749476

>>749431
Probably because banning topics that trigger you isn’t how this site works. If Cinna brings milk it’s relavent whether we like it or not.

No. 749503

Yall remember when Princess actually used to look like a noral black girl and not another one of her boring white chicks with a dark skin tone

No. 749508

File: 1544877940189.jpg (115.06 KB, 797x773, 1513072391530.jpg)

>>749503
Depends on your definition of normal

No. 749516

File: 1544880953139.png (8.67 MB, 3000x2000, 1544880810181.png)

Got the princess image from one of her thumbnails cause I was not going to watch one of her videos lmao but princess actually used to look like she was black now sad to see that gone now

No. 749553

>>748899
For the love of God Holly stop drawing men in tank tops it's fucking gross you cannot pull it off these damn vagina arms

>>748862
I second that we stfu about cinna unless she actually contributes milk. No one cares about updates on her progress of making a video that will likely never be finished or be as shitty and pointless as all the other videos made about Holly so far

No. 749587

>>749553
I agree about Cinna. Nobody cares about her updates for her still nonexistent video. When she makes said video, then we'll talk.

No. 749603

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>>749335

Not ironic that Gerard can draw better than she does, since he has a BFA in cartooning from SVA and he clearly worked hard to get where he is. Sad, though, definitely, since Holly puts all her energy into “practice” but never actually works on improving, while Gerard spent twelve years traveling for music, only drawing sporadically, and can still muster up more meaning with a few rough, basic shapes than Holly can in a whole comic.

No. 749626

New vid

No. 749683

>>749626
So, she had 3 orders so far, since re-starting on Etsy

→ does wax seals on her packages (pretty but useless)

→ wants custom image on every envelope, made by pricey machine (sad Simon face)

→ IDK x 2370

Aditionally, she's browsing on Amazon again, getting some stuff that will prbably rot in some corner again - glass bottles, seriously?!

No. 749684

>>749626
Love the stab at people having "high expectations" regarding sbuscription boxes
Says she doesn't have any but can't leave it there, nope, all the other people are so butthurt of course

No. 749686

File: 1544914290082.png (762.9 KB, 1179x655, Unbenannt.png)

Lord almighty, this is hideous

No. 749688

>>749626
My barely-existing respect went down a few notches when she started talking about her going back to school - she seriously wants a car so bad so she wants to drop out completely?! Maybe if she hadn't spent every earned dollar on useless tools she wouldn't have so many problems now…

No. 749692

>>749688
To be fair school is a bit pointless for her. It's not like she is actually putting in the effort and learning anything and a online art degree really doesn't do much.

No. 749774

Does Holly filter her comments? They're all surprisingly positive.

No. 749805

>>749774
She has an undying fanbase. They forgive anything and everything cuz she's being bullied by SJWs and her mental illnesses excuse her behaviour uwu

No. 749809

maybe I am missing something here but why does she need a car so badly? It kinda seems like an unneccessary expense to me

No. 749817

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the blood physics….
If you’re gonna draw g u r o shouldn’t you at least put in two shits to make the gore itself look good?

No. 749825

>>749817
Ugh that's disgusting, and the blood looks like it's actually floating away from the table or something

No. 749828

>>749817
Danm that oblong bisection. I think holly legit thinks people are flat. No wonder why she draws them so 2d and stiff.

No. 749837

>>749774
>>749805
You're not wrong about her fans, but she definitely deletes most critical comments as well. I don't know if she uses some kind of word filter, but that seems like something she would do, lol

No. 749844

>>749817
What the fuck is this?

No. 749893

>>749626
If spreadsheet anon still exists it’s time to add her new subscription box and $2 drink she buys everyday. Oh and the wax seal machine

No. 749896

File: 1544979308602.jpeg (255.31 KB, 839x924, 62B60006-A26C-46AD-88C9-115CA2…)

>>749516
Holly brown on one of laovaans videos about art school
‘Why isn’t illustration art?’

No. 749897

File: 1544979385174.jpeg (88.58 KB, 857x409, 1C8F795D-C2D7-44DA-BD69-05468E…)

Under another laovaan video about how his art school sucked
‘Portfolio and 5 years of work’

No. 749898

>>749896
These are old but haven’t been discussed yet

No. 749899

>>749896
>sexy girls
just say you hate women and go

No. 749933

>>749899
Now now anon. Some people just have different preferences! Hollys is young boys in booty shorts are you implying that you hate little boys because you don't like her drawing shouta characters? How very close minded of you. uwu

No. 749943

>>749896
I'll never understand why she thinks (web) comic artists are oppressed underdogs in terms of status, in what universe is that true?

No. 749962

>>749896
I know that Holly has made a comic and has a bunch of equipment but I wish she wouldn't share her opinion on stuff she doesn't know about. She sounds like she trying to be faux inspiring while having a really old school view on how people view comics.
Comics are more popular now than they've ever been.
On top of that, it's weird that she thinks you have to bluntly show the messages of the story instead of finding them when you can discover a lot in a good visual piece.
Plenty of artwork shows a lot about a character before they even need to speak, like the color they wear or their body language. These are things you have to "find".

"Modern art" isn't hard to understand, and not understanding it isn't a good thing just because it makes you more relatable to children and teens.

No. 750011

>>749688
>>749809
Holly did just get her drivers license recently

She want's a car so bad so she can finally be able to leave her house easily, go to work easily, and hopefully get an actual social life.

I don't totally understand her financial situation, but if she can get a car I think it would be good for her to have that extra motivation to go out and do things

No. 750015

>>750011
idk why anyone would be shitting on this idea, her getting a car is good. even for her art, she can actually go look at people and things instead of tracing them off the internet.

No. 750018

>>750015
maybe I´m just used to the fact that bikes and public transport are a thing

No. 750023

>>750018
in a lot of places in the US, public transportation is poor to nonexistent, as are safe bike lane/trails. it's also just unamerican to exercise/save the environment, i guess, people equate having a car with having a life.

No. 750032

>>750023 Also people are pressured to learn how to drive by 16 in America. If you are 16 without a permit you are basically a dweeb

No. 750034

In San Antonio/Austin its hard to get to where you're going without a car, unless you live downtown. Being from the same area as Holly, I can understand the need for one. There's definitely a social stigma towards people who don't drive/have a car here too.

No. 750037

>>750032

That's not true everywhere. If you live in or around a big city like ny, no one gives a shit whether you own a car or not, as long as you get to places on time. It really depends on the region. I can see the necessity for one somewhere like TX or the countryside though.

Not sure how much advantage shed take in having a car. Something tells me she wouldn't really take the initiative to do the things she said she wants to do, kind of like everything else she claims she plans on doing. I'll believe it when I see it.

But once she has a car, you best believe it'll be a whole new thing for her to bitch about.

No. 750040

Samefag, but holly never mentioned having an actual day job in this last vlog.

Am I missing something, or did she just not get an offer? She only talks about her etsy shop, which I'm not sure is what she means by day job or not.

She was lamenting over the fact that she isn't where she wants to be at her age, but a lot of folks her age aren't. They are working jobs to supplement themselves while they work on their personal stuff. This is a concept that Holly can't seem to wrap her mind around, so it came as a surprise to me that she claimed vaguely, that she was working immediately after she got her shit kicked in on social media.

I don't think she's actively looking for jobs, I honestly think it was a front. And if she had one, her mom wouldn't be on her ass about going back to school.

That's just my take.

No. 750041

How long has she been making her new channel?

No. 750051

>>750040
I'm 99% sure she was bullshitting when she said she had a new job (2 of them!). Maybe she got interviews and assumed she would get an offer. Either that or she was lying the entire time. Both are equally possible.

No. 750053

>>749943
Especially considering how she constantly uses herself as some kind of example - she has barely achieved anything and acts like uploading some badly drawn pages now and then gives her the right to act so knowledable about everything

No. 750055

>>749692
It's not just about getting a degree in general, but actually finishing something for once in her life.
As of now, the only successful thing she did so far was funding a single comic through kickstarter. Since then she dropped out, blew 50k on shit she doesn't need, fails to deliver for any (self-decided) deadlines, didn't take any form of criticism serious enough to be prepared for the current drama and at this point considers having 10 products on Etsy a "job".
That woman has no structure, and I fail to see what she even wants to do with her life, if she can't even finish the damn degree she was already so close to getting. It would actually help her, since based on her portfolio alone she would never even in theory get a damn industry job. And with how little discipline she works on her own things, that might be the only well-paid work she could ever hope for.

No. 750077

>>750055
isn't she almost done too? I guess she's even claiming to be in her senior year for like 2 years but she might as well finish now. at least she will have something to show for all the money she spent. and even if she can't make it as an artist other employers just like to see a bachelor's in anything at all.

No. 750174

>>750055
A BFA in art isn’t gonna get her any more jobs, just interviews, and she has just now realized she will end up bombing the interviews due to being socially inept. Dropping out is fine, she can always finish it later.

No. 750182

File: 1545050476546.png (559.41 KB, 462x812, ppupdate.png)

Suuure Holly.

No. 750185

>>750174
I agree with the first part, but almost nobody goes back to being a student once they are out and have started to earn money. Especially not Holly. And having a degree is always better than not having one, possible employers always look if you've finished something or did the bare minimus. Says a lot about personality.

No. 750195

>>750182
I hate Holly’s art so much. Beef boi looks so stupid. And how is chapter one even over? Nothing has happened so far.
-Beef boi gets molested by a plant
-Blonde saves him but how she saves him is neither shown or explained
-there was random exposition and an attack on the city but all the characters are psychopaths who don’t seem to care about all the destruction and possible death happening
Sage for being a sperg. I re-read her comic for lols but it became so clear how she only draws the pages one at a time so there is no flow between them.

No. 750197

>>750182
Sage for double post but was her typo intentional because how can she misspell comic? I just…how did she survive 22 years of life

No. 750199

>>750197
It's intentional, the queen of comedy strikes again.

No. 750225

>>750195
Yeah she said once in a video a while ago she doesn't do scripts and does the bare minimum for outlines and god does it show

No. 750233

>>750225
Not writing the complete script out in advance isn't a bad thing. It keeps the story fresh and keeps you excited to work on your webcomic. Unfortunately I don't think Holly has any general plot planned out in advance and her story has awkward pacing because of that.

No. 750258

>>750233
The keyword - "complete". Having at least the whole chapter scripted isn't bad, but pretty much standard.

No. 750281

>>750197
It's probably supposed to be one of those "write something exactly how you pronounce it for hyperbole" jokes

No. 750282

>>750197
It's probably supposed to be one of those "write something exactly how you pronounce it for hyperbole" jokes

No. 750296

>>750233
Uh sure but Holly literally writes nothing in advance. She puts down bubbles and fills them with dialogue as she goes instead of writing the dialogue and THEN doing the bubbles. Not sure any comic artist does something that stupid.

No. 750298

>>750296
Wait didn't she have a book with thumbnails for her comic pages in one of her vlogs? I'm pretty sure Holly plans a scene at a time but that's about it.

No. 750315

File: 1545072481898.png (1.68 MB, 750x1334, E53C284B-232E-4664-9933-57789B…)

She’s trying to make stickers out of these?
I thought these were shitty doodles, not actual products.
Also she only did one sticker for Ray and his hair isn’t even right. Guess afros aren’t kawaii-yaoi-anime enough for Holly.

No. 750319

>>750315
>'Guess afros aren’t kawaii-yaoi-anime enough for Holly.'

Judging by Holly's 'black' characters, I'm pretty sure Holly just doesn't know how to draw afros or non-straight hair in general lol.

No. 750326

>>750315
Sorry, but as someone who barely knows a thing about MCR I need to ask - WHY does Holly draw these guys with your typical anime/manga facial expressions, like they are some kind of sidekick characters? And gawd, those sparkles…

No. 750334

God her shit is so outdated. You can really tell what mindset she's still in

No. 750339

File: 1545075865836.jpeg (217.59 KB, 1000x750, my-chemical-romance.jpeg)

>>750315
I don't know who MCR are, but are they those guys?

No. 750353

>>750339
My Chemical Romance was a emo pop punk band (2003-2013). That’s MCR. The members in that picture is Gerard WY, Mikey Way, Ray Toro, Frank Iero and some guy named Bob. They’ve broken up now and aren’t really that popular with teens anymore.

No. 750357

it´s literally impossible to tell which drawing is supposed to be which band member…

No. 750388

>>750298
She does thumb nails not scripts. She panels in advance but not dialogue.

No. 750408

>>749603

Also, let's not forget that Gerard is a ReAL
comic artist.

No. 750428

>>750408
Wait, are you implying that queen Holly, the natural storyteller is not a real comic artist? How very elitist of you, anon.

No. 750564

File: 1545144362635.png (2.4 MB, 1852x819, igstories.png)

Recent IG stories. I don't really get what she's up to but oh well, looks great and productive af.

No. 750566

>>750564

She's never really had a sense of direction, but I feel like this time whatever it is she's trying to do, she's way off track from.
She has no idea how to trim down her tasks to finish anything substantial.

Like, if she didn't have a YouTube channel, her comics wouldn't even have a chance at being seen, which is why I think she's so bent on YouTube. It's where she can show off her busywork and feel like she's done something.

No. 750651


No. 750652

>>750564
Is it just me or deos she always want prompts from her fans on what to draw? It's like she really hasn't any ideas and just wants to get recognition

No. 750656

>>750652
More than often not, she'll ask for prompts but rarely ever does them. When she manages to actually do even one of the prompts, she tends to not show any of it.

No. 750704

File: 1545163471994.jpg (61.57 KB, 800x400, pjimage.jpg)

>>750326
>WHY does Holly draw these guys with your typical anime/manga facial expressions, like they are some kind of sidekick characters?

>>750357
>it´s literally impossible to tell which drawing is supposed to be which band member…

Outing myself as an mcr fan in 2018 but the only reason I can tell which is which is based on their different hairstyles from each 'era' of the band's career… there are pretty much ZERO distinctive features on them other than Holly's attempt at drawing bigger lips on this poor guy and his anime-fied curly hair.

Pretty typical of a lot of anime styles where the only distinctive features are the hairstyle/color and eye color.
This crap looks like it was drawn straight out of a shitty 'how to draw manga' book.

So much for that same-face syndrome you know so much about, huh Holly?


>>750353
>They’ve broken up now and aren’t really that popular with teens anymore.

They're still quite popular with a more niche set of teens, those of which are either edgy tm kids who genuinely enjoy the music or horny AND edgy kids just starting puberty who have the hots for the band members…
Seems like Holly never outgrew the latter group.

No. 750742

>>750704
also outing myself as a MCR fan in 2018

but it constantly amazes me that Holly doesn't mention Gerard Way's extremely successful comic career… It makes me wonder if she even knows about it?

No. 750746

>>750742
third person outing themselves as an MCR fan in 2018

I think she just doesnt acknowledge it bc he's better than her at it, if im being frank.

No. 750749

>>750746
let's just admit it we all love mcr

No. 750753

>>750315

the only one that actually looks like who he is supposed to be is Mikey. like that first frank…did she even try?

No. 750761

>>750749
I have no shame. I love mcr.

>>750704
That doesn't even look like Ray Toro. His hair is always afro-ish because of his hispanic genes.

>>750315
Yeah, these all look really bad. They have iconic looks and hair and she managed to get none right.

No. 750763

>>750315
She's not even a fan if she can't get a single dude right. Ray doesn't have his signature fro. She could have also taken an opportunity to use unicorns for Mikey, because that was the inside joke with him for years.

No. 750764

>>750742
>>750746
Does Holly even read comics ? I haven't seen her mention anything that wasn't BL manga, BL fancomics or manga-inspired webcomics/webtoons. Her entire "storytelling" style is just pieced together from shitty anime tropes. I wouldn't be surprised if she just didn't know about Gerard's comics because they're not weeb yaoi shit.

It seems to me she only makes comics because she likes to draw men and needs to shove a story on top of it for her to get off. She doesn't even seem to actually enjoy making them.

No. 750788

>>750764

She doesn't read as many kinds as she'd like us to believe. That's why all her shit is old tired yaoi fujoshi tropes. I'll bet She doesn't even look at the greats or do master studies. Sometimes the point isn't that you always like what you see when you're learning. it's what you can learn from people that do things better.

But nobody is better than Holly.

nobody

No. 750793

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does she know how to write in comprehensive english?

No. 750805

>>750793

>draw 50 series


Is that another God damn challenge I smell?

No. 750814

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>>750805

it is!

No. 750816

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No. 750829

>>750814
so…what is this…? just drawing 50 things? not 50 of the same thing just 50 random things?

No. 750837

>>750814

didn't Jake Parker make a video suggesting this? Except it's got less of a direction. is it just 50 things? 50 household items? Looks like old fashioned stuff.

She's exhausting af.

No. 750863

>>750816
This would be a useful exercise if it was just one thing, say 50 hands at 50 different angles. 50 random things is just like…discount sketchbook challenge lol. Who cares.

No. 750886

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An edit to show the normies here what holly was going four with these guys.

Also outing myself as an mcr fan in 2k18. it's almost impressive how bad her fan art is, its like she didn't even try to make them look facially similar to The people they're supposed to be.

No. 750889

>>750886

*for (I'm retarded)

No. 750893

>>750886
the bloody nose one is okay but the rest you can't even tell if they're males or females

No. 750906

>>750886
Thanks for making this. I thought the last one was supposed to be herself when I first saw it…

No. 750927

>>750886
but it's her style!!!

also is it just me or did she base Reese's appearance off the 2nd guy? (don't know anything about MCR, soz)

No. 750945

>>750886

Good god, you can't tell that any of them are supposed to be men in her fanart.

No. 750995

>>750886
Hol(l)y shit, thank you for this

No. 751025

>>750886
Really can’t get over how off the last one is…she complained once on Twitter that anime never taught her how to draw curly hair as there are so few anime characters with (as she put it) realistic curls, but hear me out Holly as this might just blow you away: there is more to life and references than shitty early 2000s anime.

No. 751026

>>750886
Are the second to last two actually different people? I know nothing about this band sorry. Why does she draw the same like five weird expressions and hand poses on every group of people she draws? I’m honestly kicking myself for hoping she was spending this time away improving herself before coming back but here she is drawing fucking MCR sticker sheets for no discernible reason as she drops out school with her massive debt and stops comic work seemingly entirely. Holly wtf is going on with you.

No. 751049

>>751026
Isn't she trying to wrap up Purgatory ?
If she gave up on comics entirely I wouldn't blame her, she half-asses them and doesn't seem to actually enjoy making them at all. She seems to have more fun making stickers and other things she can sell (probably because she's thinking about the money). They look awful but some people like that "quality" of art and will buy them.

No. 751054

>>750814
honestly this just seems like a rehash of her old "draw ten a day" challenge. and i don't think that challenge helped her at all, so i'm not sure why she thinks it's a good idea to bring back.

No. 751197

>>751049
>Are the second to last two actually different people?
I’ll write this down if anyone wants to google the different band members/eras to compare to Holly’s for their own entertainment.

1st row - Gerard Way, Danger Days era
2nd row - Mikey Way, Revenge era
3rd row - Gerard Way, Revenge era
4th row - Frank Iero, Revenge era (red)
5th row - Frank Iero, Revenge era (white)
6th row - Ray Toro, ??? era

Ray’s hair never changes and yet Holly still somehow got it wrong…

Another note: In the horny part of the fandom, Gerard and Frank are commonly shipped together.
Holly admitted to reading ‘Frerard’ fanfiction in the past and I’ve heard of a Frerard comic by Holly as well, but I was unable to find it myself. Has anyone seen/know where to find the milk?

No. 751199

>>751197
To each their own, but claiming to be a professional while shipping real people is kinda…gross?

No. 751204

>>751197
Replied to wrong post, my bad

>>751199
I think you mean ‘extremely gross’.

Another note about the fandom:
It’s very common for Ray and Mikey to be ignored by the horny fans but occasionally they do Mikey to courtesy of shipping him with his own brother, Gerard.
Tinfoiling but I wouldn’t be surprised if Holly was into that at some point.
She’s definitely guilty of ignoring but butchering Ray at the same time tho!

No. 751205

>>751197
(My bad if you mean the actual fanfics she wrote, no idea where to find those)

No. 751215

>>751205
if your wondering, the fics are listed at the comments section. should be the first one

No. 751240

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>>751215
The stories listed are ones that she reads rather than ones that shes written as far as i know but still, not surprised the one has rape and other fucked up shit in it

I tried to copy the text to have direct links here but my phone doesnt seem to allow me to copy youtube comments so heres a screencap of what she said about the mcr fanfics that shes seem to really like (though tbh i find it weird that she specifically states she wont link any incest fics but is fine with linking ones with rape despite knowing her fanbase is maninly tweens)

No. 751377

>>751054
the whole repetitive drawing thing works only if you are using references anyway. like, if you draw the same thing over and over only using your imagination you're just going to repeat your initial mistakes to the point where it becomes habit. if holly drew 10 trees and actually looked at a picture of a tree (or a real tree) each time, she'd improve with each successful drawing.

No. 751429

>>751025

>anime never taught her how to draw curly hair

Oh, okay, Holly, sweetie, that’s totally fine, that makes perfect sense that you don’t know how to draw curly hair because of anime—
SWISS FUCKING CHEESE HOLLY you are the artist and you are in charge of your own damn art, so teach yourself or make it up yourself holy shit!

No. 751464

>>751429
bruh her fuckin hair is curly, nature gave her a damn reference and she still cant use it

No. 751529

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No. 751534

>>751529
One step forward, three steps backwards

No. 751542

>>751529
her line weights are so inconsistent. she just puts thick lines wherever and it makes no sense.

No. 751543

>>751529
>taught me and made me a much better person
how ? she hasn't admitted to anything people have criticised her for, made excuses for everything and all her followers have coddled her and blamed the mean SJW bullies. What could she have learned from this ?

No. 751563

>>751529
The leaning hand mirror is my favorite

No. 751603

>>751543

she learned that if she just repeats the same thing often enough, her brainless stans will buy it, duh

No. 751951

>>751563
My personal favorite is the two dimensional telephone

No. 751960

>>751529
How the hell do you manage to fuck up butter? Holly deserves some next level praise for messing up so much simple stuff.

Also gotta love the inconsistent numbers on the cat clock. Very nice.

No. 751967

>>751429
>>751025
it's funny that she says that considering what she draws isn't fucking anime.

No. 752006

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No. 752044

>>752006
bitch better leave moomins alone

No. 752088

>>751025
> anime never taught her how to draw curly hair

Wow, it's such a shame that she has absolutely no way to learn how to draw curly hair. If only there was a way that she could type the words "How to draw curly hair" and find dozens of videos and web pages which offer tutorials on how to draw curly hair in an cartoony style. Alas, if only such a magical tool existed!

No. 752202

>>752088
…hell, looking into a mirror would be enough

No. 752282

>>752044
lmfao i cant stop laughing

No. 752355

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throw some glasses on this diapey broad and you got reese
i mean look at the face that isnt the ash we know

No. 752364

>>752355
Ash and Reese are both self insert based it’s not surprising they have the same face lol

No. 752434

>>752355
I love when my loose tank top adheres to the underside of my boobs. Has holly never even seen a shirt? or a boob?

No. 752435

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>>752434
How holly sees boobs

No. 752438


No. 752449

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>>752355
no wonder, look at the base
unless she has a hidden sketch underneath this (scummy), she just drew a male torso by kind of picking random outline lines to start with. she started with the sternum/boob line just plonk that'll do. now the rest of the drawing has to conform to this random line lol

No. 752451

She forgot she was drawing Ash and sketched some Reece bits instead

No. 752453

>>752355
Really loving the "cheap old leggings that have lost all their elasticity" look

No. 752475

>>752449
Holly will change her sketch colour to green and key it out when she edits her video because she likes the way lines just 'appear' on screen. So there's definitely a hidden sketch.

No. 752507

>>752438
Questionable art aside, I hope she can actually adhere to all the things she said she would in the video. Not being a judgmental, miserable cunt would do so much to improve her outlook on life.

No. 752513

>>752475
i've seen her vid on that i just assumed as an mostly 'how to do art' channel she wouldn't actually use that technique without mentioning it in the video because that would make her stick-figure-level audience think thinking that's how you're supposed to draw

No. 752518

>>752513
Like most of the things Holly does she justifies it with
"idk I think it looks cool idk when the lines just appear on screen"
and clearly she's still doing it because half way through the vid you see her sketch disappear before she starts lining it.

No. 752538

>>752438
Is somebody able to tell me what the difference from her last channel is supposed to be? Same name, same person, same cringe (grannies), same hypocrisy ("I totally grew up but people just LOVE pointless drama, ugh"), same ass-kissing fans, still not good at drawing (personal opinion).
Maybe she should have taken a longer break, the way it's now she basically only reset her sub count.

No. 752572

>>752538
well she kinda relies on youtube for the promotion of her comic and merch so I don´t think she can afford to take a long break. Her introduction video was fine, we´ll just have to wait and see if her content really will be the way she announces it to be.

No. 752593

>>752438
I thought the whole point of a new channel was not to have negative shit attatched to her name, but she’s still using her real name here?? Guess she realized it was pointless

No. 752605

>>752572
But why even start a new channel then? She should have just stuck to her old channel if she just wanted to use YouTube to keep her customer base.

No. 752615

>>752605
I think the idea was to get rid of her hate-followers but I agree that it´s pointless

No. 752660

Is her old channel still up?
I hope she doesn't make a Twitter again. Nothing is different. Her audience is still meme teens, but if there isn't any drama she'll probably bore them soon enough. She probably should just be at around 500 subs. I genuinely hope she doesn't blow up again.

No. 752691

>>752660
It's still up. She's renamed it "dead account" which strikes me as pointlessly edgy, but maybe her preteen audience loves it.

No. 752738

>>752438
I don't understand her logic of trying to start up a new channel when her old account had 100k subscribers. Holly seriously doesn't understand how important social media can be in getting a job in the animation industry.

Her new channel right now has 500 but she's seriously shooting herself in the foot if she wants to get her name out there.

No. 752739

>>752738
Sorry 200k subscribers even better

No. 752795

>>752438
Can we now safely assume that her supposed job was actually Etsy? She never even mentioned it again, and I'm sure she would have talked how little time she had for comics if she was actually flippin burgers.
Kinda sad, together with abandoning her 200k subs she has actually set her career so far back, that paying that 50k loan seems a bit impossible. I mean seriously, what is she supposed to do with her life now? She has effectively closed all doors for working in the art industry, yet seems so convinced she actually does. She doesn't earn any money at this point, doesn't want to get her damn degree and still lives at home. No idea what she plans to do with her life, YouTube is almost never a planned career, not for single individuals.

No. 752867

>>752738
Her new channel doesnt even show up when you search 'Holly brown' on YouTube yikes.
I had to type the exact title of her video as well as Holly Brown for it to show up

No. 752889

She still says to check her main channel for 'art tips' in the description of her new channel.

SO does she still plan on uploading there but wants to throw people off?
Or is she just going to try to redirect people to her awful advice?

No. 753034

>>752795
She'll probably go back to school in a bit once she realizes YouTube isn't going to work out especially since she switched accounts. After she finishes school chances are she'll try to go into teaching because there isn't much else she can do with her degree.

No. 753040

>>753034
I don't think she'll manage to get into teaching with the reputation she's built, but imagine being Holly's student.
>get told not to study anatomy because "anatomy worship" is bad
>get low grades if you're a girl who draws "girly" things because girls are all horrible and dumb apart from Holly
>get told French artists are all overrated and bad
>all your assignments are retarded challenges

No. 753091

>>753040
Omfg it's hilarious that I can picture this and it seems so plausible kek. No school would hire her tho she ruined her reputation with her real name.

No. 753266

her mom/aunt isn't going to let her stay there without doing something it seems like. When she withdrew from classes she mentioned her mom insisting she go back to school. If not, then a job. 2 sales a month on Etsy ain't gonna cut it as a 'day job'. She's probably counting on gaining a 'better' following on her new youtube, but wasn't really ready to commit to any real change, so she kept her old youtube up with all the bullshit.

No. 753495

Merry christmas!

No. 753509

>>753495
it's christmas eve, jackass

No. 753511

>>753495
>>753509
Depends on where you live jerk.

No. 753548

>>753495
Merry christmas!

>>753509
Sage your shit

No. 753771

Merry Christmas (Eve) to all the farmers!

No. 753792

i cannot understand why holly decided to start her channel on friday without even having a video ready for monday. i see no reason why she couldn't have waited and posted her channel intro today and posted her next video friday so that she didn't fuck up her mon/fri upload schedule after one video.
she said on instagram that the video wouldn't be up until tomorrow because of family shit, but you can schedule videos to post in advance which means she didn't have the video ready until today or possibly still doesn't have it ready.
i realize that she can't take months off from youtube because she relies on it for her income, but i don't see what real difference it would have made if she had delayed her return by about a week or so and used that week to build up a backlog of videos. it's infuriating to me that holly does not think ahead when it comes to these sorts of things and assumed that nothing would get in the way of her making two videos every week (especially on christmas eve!!)

No. 753946

Repzilla made a video on holly
holly stans are wild in the comments

No. 753964

>>753946
"She didn't trace, people don't know all the facts!"
same old, same old

No. 754074

Merry Christmas, slutty grandmas, holly uploaded.

No. 754077

OK bye

No. 754091

>>754077
"People are gonna be mad at me no matter what I do" Yes, that's totally what you should be taking away from this situation, Holly.
Also: Is she crying?

No. 754101

>>754074
>"I ran out of ideas for the 1950s so I went for 1950s-80s"
>"I asked my mom for ideas and she told me about icecubes but I didn't do it because I didn't like the silhouette"

I don't know why I find this funny but it's very funny that she wants to draw these 'vintage things' but won't draw an actual vintage thing because of the silhouette.

No. 754102

>>754077
>>754074
Lmao, what's the point?? Why start a new channel and directly link the new one in the goodbye? This isn't removing the toxic subs, all she is managing to do is killing the sub and view count of her more causal viewers while bringing the toxic stans over

No. 754123

>>754077
I like how she says "the conscientious was" as if her "fans" were the ones telling her to start up a new channel, but… everyone was telling her to keep the old one?

She already was making a new channel, as she said, before even getting through all of the comments. This wasn't the "fans'" decision at all, it was her own. But here we go again, it's not Holly's fault she's doing this, her "fans" told her to do it.

No. 754141

>>754074
fuck man.. blahbidy blahbidy blahbidy while i do 50 doodles at literally non-artist level. fuckin blahbidy blahbidy nothing, while i draw what a construction worker would draw in mspaint. people can put this on as white noise i guess but her unaesthetic drawings give me agitation so not me

No. 754142

>>754074
fuck man.. blahbidy blahbidy blahbidy while i do 50 doodles at literally non-artist level. fuckin blahbidy blahbidy nothing, while i draw what a construction worker would draw in mspaint. people can put this on as white noise i guess but her unaesthetic drawings give me agitation so not me

No. 754190

>>754074
Am I the only one not liking the new "aesthetic" she has chosen for her channel? It just looks so fake and over the top with that pseudo soft-coloured vintage and flowers. And her art style really doesn't do much for it (and vice versa)

No. 754286

>>754074
Am I the only one not liking the new "aesthetic" she has chosen for her channel? It just looks so fake and over the top with that pseudo soft-coloured vintage and flowers. And her art style really doesn't do much for it (and vice versa)

No. 754319

>>754286
it would be better if she actually took the photo of the background instead of photoshoping it, but that requires effort i guess

No. 754451

>>754286

It's a random aesthetic that doesn't reflect her or what she thinks is her 'brand', she just grabbed elements she thought were pretty and tossed them into her new look. The intro is so fake and her video layouts look so generic. Every time she tries a new look, it always comes off as though she's trying way too hard. But at the same time she hasn't really changed. We'll see how long she can keep this weak-ass facade.

No. 754454

>>754286

It's a random aesthetic that doesn't reflect her or what she thinks is her 'brand', she just grabbed elements she thought were pretty and tossed them into her new look. The intro is so fake and her video layouts look so generic. Every time she tries a new look, it always comes off as though she's trying way too hard. But at the same time she hasn't really changed. We'll see how long she can keep this weak-ass facade.

No. 754551

You all disgust me. Really. I'm not a Holly fangirl or whatever the only thing you call people defending her (alright Holly, I got ya). You all sound like hillbillys yourselves and I feel sorry for you for having this board as your only fun in life. Sorry for sounding bad but my main language isn't murica.
I know that you all fall for peer pressure, thinking; well yah if they can bully Holly over internet then so can I.
As I said, not Holly fan, but I do have a conscience. (welcome to the internet) thank you, but I do think I've been here longer than you, kid.
Feel free to caring so much about what other people do you have to bully them into quitting what they are free to do as well. I hope you all get raped, or at least think twice before you pile up against one single person.
Take whatever you want from this text, I know some of you may think about it, but most will take only one word from the entire text and twist it like you twist everything else.
Cry in a corner. Because that is what you actually want you insecure cunts.

No. 754555

>>754551

Bold of you to assume that this is the only fun in anyone's lives, defend Holly, and then hope we all get raped.
You're no different than anyone here.
Also the more you say you're not here to defend holly or a fan of hers, the less convincing you sound. Leave.

No. 754556

>>754551
>calls lolcow evil for gossip
>hopes we all get raped
12 year old gets bold

No. 754559

>>754551
This sounds like a fucking text generator wrote lmao

Stay mad

No. 754565

I think I've been here longer than you kid
I hope you get raped
My main language isn't murica

Not our fault you don't know English is a thing
Spoken like a true edgy teenage holly fan. Ooooh! We're soooo scaaaarrrred!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 754567

>>754551
Lol, wut. Not everyone here is american and not everybody has to sit and watch someone being toxic because of their insecureness and laziness. Doesn't speak for you having enough time at hand to write a novel about how mean and stupid everyone is for not being all lovey dovey to someone who hasn't earned an ounce of respect at this point.

No. 754568


No. 754733

holly posted her upcoming video thumbnails on her instagram story and it looks like the next couple of videos will be realistic 2019 goals, draw 50 starbucks drinks, and draw 50 breads [sic].

right now three of her first five videos are going to be draw 50 videos which became tiring before that first video was even over. never mind the fact that holly doesn't seem to be capable of creating realistic goals and will likely be telling her mostly young audience how responsible and realistic she is while setting unattainable goals for herself.

No. 754797

>>749809
Living in Texas is absolute shit if you don't have a car. There's little and limited public transportation, and it's all embarrassingly outdated. It's nearly mandatory that you have a car here.

No. 754838

>>754733
Sigh, what is even the point Holly… you're not gonna improve by just doodling items without even studying them. All she ever does is being "fake" productive, putting time in stuff that doesn't matter. I don't mind her intro but it just feels so pointless to me? She could have put that time into more important things.
Instead of doodling random objects why don't you focus on one thing? Draw hands and fingers 50 times with on and off reference, paint 50 different materials, draw a character in different light situations just anything but this.
I don't want to bring her down personally (I know wrong place) but I just wish she would understand how to truly work on her art.

No. 754901


No. 754972

>>749809
dude texas is fucking huge. it's impossible to do anything without a car especially if you live in the suburbs

honestly kudos to holly for finally getting the license and stuff but i feel like knowing her she's going to buy a really new model or a car wayyy out of her budget

No. 754973

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No. 755196

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>>754838
Agreed, I actually like Hollys artstyle its boxy and charming in that way but the mistakes in it are glaringly obvious the hillarious yaoi sized shit for example
if she worked on simple stuff like proportion one at a time she'd improve immensely.
She is improving, her compositional skills in Chroma Prince are a lot better than Purgatory
but she's improving at a snails pace.
A lot of her skills are stagnant in improvement.
I actually think 90% of the art Youtube channels whoring off the bandwagon, bitching about her art are worse if not equal level to her ability.

No. 755201

>>755196
Ehh I’m going to disagree, she’s obviously regressed thanks to all the cheats and tracing she relies on so heavily when she really does free hand she’s even more wobbly and leaned then what she was 6 months ago.
Honestly been gone from the site for like 3 months myself and coming back to see all the new Holly milk and her art is so much worse. You can see how stiff and tubey her humans/people are. She’s just horrible with people and where she refuses to actually sit down and study and learn real anatomy it just holds her back. She’s always going to draw like she’s in high school if she doesn’t take the time to really truely “practice” instead of pumping out the same blob piece after the other.

I’ll admit I’ve only ever found her object art “charming” but that’s not really the word I’d use, I’d say more just cute. If she really wanted she could just stop doing humanoid characters all together (to practice on the side) and just work on her breads, cups, etc. And I think she’s do a bit better audience wise. Her people and animals are so off putting but at least she can kinda make objects look appealing, especially in those muddy water colours since that’s a weird aesthetic thing right now.

Sage for rambling but I just can’t find her art “charming” or “appealing” in anyway since there’s a girl I know who draws almost identical to Holly and she’s legit autistic and almost 30, so I die a little inside (laughing) knowing that’s the limits of Holly’s skill

No. 755216

>>754838
I really hate supporting Holly but I feel the draw 50 things challenge just stems from her depression and anxiety. It seems like Holly just pours herself into her work whenever she is feeling down by drawing as much as she can. She did the same thing with the 'Sketchbook Slam' challenge.

No. 755218

>>755216
I agree but I think a large part of it is attention-seeking. She loves to overwork herself and complain about how tired she is, how no one helps her, how she prints everything herself (even when she really shouldn't, like for the zine). And it's not even productive drawing with studies, fundamentals and a desire to improve ; it's just mindless quantity.

So I wouldn't call it Holly "pouring herself into her work" as much as "Holly artificially increasing her workload so she can play the victim". It's still a strategy to deal with her anxiety, but it's a lot less innocent.

No. 755229

>>755216
>>755218
Holly does these challenges because it's easy to make videos with them. It is the same reason the Sketchbook Slam Challenge became popular on youtube.

No. 755274

Holly hasn't fundamentally changed. All she did was get herself a new coat of paint but even that's already peeling away.

She's still inconsistent, starts projects she can't finish, carelessly spends money on bullshit she doesn't need, complains about money she doesn't have, and complains about the drama she claims she doesn't want to dig up anymore.

I know things like lifestyle changes don't happen overnight, but there are measured steps she could've already been taking to better herself. The answer isn't really in starting a new YouTube channel, but that's how she gets her validation.

No. 755504

>>755201
>I’ll admit I’ve only ever found her object art “charming” but that’s not really the word I’d use, I’d say more just cute. If she really wanted she could just stop doing humanoid characters all together

i agree with you completely, her objects are much better than her people because the inaccuracy is easier to ignore as stylization, there's no 'uncanny valley' for objects. not to blog post, but i have an artist friend who's great at objects but awful at people because he's weirdly misapplying what he knows about how to create internal/3d structure of an object to a human body, instead of learning the underlying anatomy of the body. i think holly suffers that disconnect too, and is part of why her figures come out so blocky/stuff/object-like. in the interest of learning the least amount possible, she tries to use shortcuts that don't apply - like the way she uses the hand 'brushes' she made a while back. she's taking an idea that works for an object (she uses similar 'brushes' for locations successfully in ÖATS MY BRÖTHER) and trying to apply it unsuccessfully to a human figure.

No. 755507

>>755201
>Sage for rambling but I just can’t find her art “charming” or “appealing” in anyway since there’s a girl I know who draws almost identical to Holly and she’s legit autistic and almost 30, so I die a little inside (laughing) knowing that’s the limits of Holly’s skill

Got a link?

No. 755567

>>755507
I really don't wanna link to anything since I know her irl and I'm not ready for that spergout, plus she's kinda my personal cow and I'm a greedy bitch
I can post a drawing that she gave me if you really want to see but I don't wanna start going OT

>>755504
exactly, she has a really hard time understanding the fundamentals of the human form and how it works, and because she refuses to actually study (her own body or other refs) she can 'mostly' look at an object and be able to recreate the dimensions and decent depth for the objects, but has a hard time placing them in spaces that fit. Then on the other hand when she's filling spaces she does fairly well with the minimal details, or rather, USED TO fill in lots of details, but always over-look her perspectives.

She has a hard time being able to connect things together, rather she's so used to sketching/drawing in empty spaces she seems to think that drawing around the objects or people instead of sketching a placeholder BG and planning her objects within it (something that would help her comics SOOOO MUCH). And that's why her using the brushes are just dumb, she couldn't grasp how to place limbs on a human body and have them connect properly. And she seems to have that problem with everything.

No. 755568

>>755567
she seems to think that she should be drawing around the objects**

i forgot to double check sorry

No. 755685

Before we move on to a new thread, have a kek

Saged for lack of milk, but the irony is too good.

No. 755706

>>755685

This is a waste of space, it's already in the OT thread and isn't about Holly.

No. 755772

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the 'drill your bad habit muscle memory' challenges technique is paying off with art getting worse

No. 755811

>>755772
she can fill an entire page with absolutely nothing going on. That’s gotta count for something

No. 755826

>>755772
Oh god it looks so stiff…the perspective looks pretty off too

No. 755835

I love how this new channel has basically have people forget to re-upload Holly's vids.

No. 755849

>>755772
>reese's vans have a heel
fml holly you really cant draw more than 5 objects, can you

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>>755772
The way she draws Reese is maddening he’s all leg and hair, and the way he’s positioned and standing he legit looks like a pole leaning against a railing

And what are these hands? They look like feet. Holly can you at least TRY for once? Just once?

No. 755877

>>755567
Wow, I feel so attacked lol but honestly that is an issue that happens with beginners but I’ve never seen it last this long in an artist. Like when will it click in her head that she has to actually try and apply her studies to her artwork?

No. 755929

>>755849
That’s what kills me, even the details on the characters that are supposedly personal to her are not interesting enough to draw. But I don’t blame holly, I just don’t understand who can seriously still be interested in vans and skeleton hoodies for any period of longer than like 5yrs and not go totally crazy

No. 755962

>>755835
The more I think about this video the more fucked it seems.
>Don't get distracted
Holly said this means she is going to limit the amount of major projects she is working on. If she doesn't stop working on any of her comics then she already has three big projects on her plate and by her rules she's already working on too many projects. And then I personally would consider both YouTube and Etsy to be big projects since they take up so much time but perhaps Holly disagrees.
>Use less social media
She very quickly dismissed the idea of using less instagram because that's visual information and not text information. Despite the fact that instagram posts have descriptions that can be quite long that she would see when scrolling. But YouTube has text information because when she's scrolling there's too many video titles to read (and I guess she's not just looking at thumbnails despite her saying that that's the most important thing for a YouTube video about ten seconds later.)
>Work on the hard stuff first
I feel like Holly has already not done this. I know she says that she has started doing the thumbnails for her videos first, but at the beginning of the video she says that she scrapped the craft video she was working on because it took too long and from what I understand was too difficult. So she decided to do this seemingly easier video instead. The background speedpaint is also her doing something that isn't hard. She's just doing a one off illustration instead of actually working on comic pages. If she wants to get more comic pages done (which she implied during her don't get distracted segment) then surely that's what she should be working on.

I won't comment on her other goals other than saying that she plans to sleep for twelve hours a day apparently, but I will say that her background says "I wipe my own ass" and the title cards were ugly and showed up with bad timing. Sorry for writing a fucking essay but half the video felt like her contradicting herself and none of her goals were about improving her art despite that being her job.

No. 755969

the center of gravity in this drawing (and most of her work) is just so wrong

No. 756045

>>755772
why is Hershey so damb short

No. 756063

>>755567
You can post it in the bad art thread, I'm curious too.

No. 756274

>>755835



>I hate the act of showering, so I'll put it off all day.


This classifies as doing the hard stuff first? Like. There's no excuse for this. Shower the night before. Jfc. That's probably a reason why she's sick a lot. If she kept her room tidied maybe she wouldn't think showering was a waste of time. Nothing that contributes to your overall good health is a waste of time.

No. 756379

>>755835
I don't get how she tries to go for this clean pretty aestetic on het video while at the same time she snotters all over the place at the end of the video, it defeats the entire purpose

No. 756702

>>755835
Why the hell did she spend so much of the video discussing what "cleaning" means?

Just vacuum your fucking room every once in a while, Holly, it's not that hard.

No. 757139

new vid, elderly whores.

No. 757176

New Thread >>>/snow/757175

No. 1737374

>>740881
aged like fine wine



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