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Thread to discuss Cryaotic.
>Multiple allegations of grooming minors and potentially illegal behavior with minors.
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu2yrDg7wROzElRGoLQH82A
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/Cryaotic(shit thread)
Fine OP, I'll do the work for you you lazy ass
Cryaotic drops the bomb that he's been in inappropriate relationships with at least one minor, more info comes out soon after that it was multiple fans, (up to 14 people so far, though most are adults & LIST IS PRIVATE SO FAR, SNAKE KNOWS)
Cry's video: https://youtu.be/H4E5B0-8q2E
Uploads an unlisted Stream where he has a manic episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lf0_RFFLPQ
The LNC has officially removed Cry from being a member, none of the old members seem to want anything to do with him now. They are debating on continuing on their own but things are still up in the air and everyone is still learning new things.
Chey (Cry's crazy ex) has been attacking LNC members on Twitter for not doing anything about her being underaged despite them not knowing and her telling them the relationship was okay. (She was groomed to believe this, but is now blaming them for not knowing.)https://twitter.com/_daaes
Tiabeanie comes out with her story on Cry: https://twitter.com/LadyTiabeanie/status/1273428606409035776
Auri (snow anon) comes out about her experiences: https://twitter.com/bubblegumpompom/status/1275131577677369346
Sage accused Jund of abusing her in the past and then locks her account: https://twitter.com/littlelilacleaf
Ocean spoke out on Twitter: https://twitter.com/OceanHrvx/status/1274489952726855681
Clout chaser Angel dips out: https://twitter.com/lovexombie/status/1274916767996018690
Coyotemation unprivated the elephant in the room video, Chey acts like a victim
telling Coyote that the video makes her hurt herself, bullies Coyote into re-privating and then leaves Twitter permanently: https://twitter.com/coyotemation/status/1275116897994977281
SNAKE IS CURRENTLY STREAMING ABOUT THE SITUATION, SCOTT JUND STREAMED LAST NIGHT, but Jund has learned new info since last night and believes Cry is irredeemable.
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Is the cunt dragon rearing its ugly head again? A reminder.
That sounds so fake…. Oh my god..
She needs to back that up real quick, as much as Jund hates her he was actually on her side until she started attacking him
There's no way that's true lmao
Maybe she should learn to provide proof of these allegations
Old member of the Cryaotic fan community is posting answers about some stuff on Tumblr: https://sadiebun.tumblr.com/
Earlier she confirmed the leaked pic of Cry >>839907
is real, but before he went through major weight loss
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Someone during snakes stream was asking about Jund joining in the skype calls, and then I noticed this
Chey: YOU'RE EVIL I HAVE PROOF
Okay, prove it.
Chey: LOL OF COURSE I CAN'T PROVE IT DON'T YOU KNOW YOU'RE TLAKING TO A VICTIMMMMMMM
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Looks like some old mods might be moderating auris stream.
guys really do this all the time; they’ll never call out their friend’s predatory behavior and think it’s normal.
if they want to use the excuse of “lnc was the majority of our income so we couldn’t do anything” then so what we all do when we need money: get a second job. plenty of streamers have a part time job, playing video games isn’t your only choice of income.
and if cry is such a beta as scott says then it should be even easier to call him out no?
Well the rest of their argument is that they only knew about one incident, called him out on it and that seemed to be that.
Not worth losing everything over something that seems like it’s over, and bringing it into the public, when the girl didn’t want it public.
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I'm not defending Cry's actions with his fans or his cheating, and tbh I think he wouldn't know responsible adult behavior if it punched him in the gallbladder, but I literally have not seen any proof of him grooming anyone or intentionally targeting minors for sexual activities. It's all just talk at this point. The only evidence of inappropriate actions with minors includes him fully backing off when he found out they were underage.
I also 100% do not think Chey was groomed. She asserted in the past that she was the one who "bullied" him into asking her out over time. Obviously he should've said no, but as someone who did the same thing to a young adult when I was a teen, that's not grooming. That's an entitled teenage brat pestering a beta cuck who lacks the backbone and self confidence to put his foot down and say no.
Tbh I'm more concerned about him treating his fans like therapists, whores, and validation machines. I think he has a hardcore victim complex that he needs to take time off and work seriously on, because he and everyone around him will never be happy until he fixes it.
And Cry, if you happen to see this: Yes, you have been victimized and used in your life. It's terrible and you have my sympathies. That doesn't excuse your behavior, and clinging to it like it makes you a tragic hero does not help you in life. It isolates you and makes everyone around you miserable. I've seen people come back from worse, but it takes a lot of determination and damn hard work.
can we stop fucking pretending like this dude is a fucking baby? If he was talking to an underaged girl he's a fucking groomer and he's gross.
Who cares if Chey was "aggressive", and this-
" tbh I think he wouldn't know responsible adult behavior if it punched him in the gallbladder"
Is bullshit. He was adult enough to wait for girls to age up, but he's not able to be an responsible adult?
Everyone involved seems to have mental issues/drama, it's not a excuse.
HE KNEW BETTER.
And why do people keep going, "if you see this Cry"
Is this thread one or two anons spamming the same shit?
What is this "coming back" bullshit people think is going to happen. If what he did is worse than grooming minors, if Scott's words are to be believed, the guy is either going behind bars or disappearing and never feasibly making a comeback, as he shouldn't. If it turns out he received underaged nudes, had sex with a minor, or even assaulted someone his career isn't dust, its atoms.
Cryaotic as a content creator is done.>>992095
Scott and Snake confirmed tonight that there's evidence of this not being a Projared situation. It's far, far worse, and at least Scott seemed sure the full story would come out.
Even if shit isn't worst what he did was fucked up for a guy in his postition. No one will trust him, if he's this "Broken' guy who has this horribly low self esteem, incapable of making adult decisions, who is so weaked willed then why the fuck would anyone want this person around the teen girls in his community?
If he's such a smol boy whose all those things, then he may end up doing this shit again.
He needs to work on himself away from streaming/youtube/public.
Snake and Scott sure seemed sure that the guy did something far worse than groom 16 year olds. You don't just call someone evil and say they deserve to be behind bars because of hearsay, especially since Scott in particular always seemed pretty level headed so I definitely think they've been shown proof of something and also outright saying he wasn't evil when the claim yesterday was the grooming claim. Remember, he didn't believe any of the allegations without proof when Chey and others on tumblr made similar claims.
Honestly I just hope Snake, Scott, or Russ come out with information they have if Cry ends up not telling or hiding some facts. Scott even said he it was looking more and more likely that Cry would flake on fully admitting to everything in a video during Snake's stream.
It really does seem like a bunch of whiteknights here just licking Cry's asshole. He could say that he diddled little girls and people would probably say, "It's a mental illness, Cry if you're reading this see a therapist and take care of yourself, it really hurts me to watch you go through this".
Replace Cry with Onision or some other pedo and the response would be completely different. It's fucking retarded.>>992096
This. Cry has already said that he did inappropriate stuff with minors, and his own crew who were literally present at some of the inappropriate stuff found evidence of this being worse than flirting with minors. Cry does not deserve to have a Proturd comeback after all of this for simply being involved with minors.
New fags, twitter fags and whiteknights. Who show so much hate and anger towards Chey (which I understand) but then go soft and make excuses for the person who STARTED ALL OF THIS.
Then they refuse to sage.
This thread is entertaining though
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Auri, you were abused and manipulated, you have nothing to apologise for and Chey has nothing to forgive.
You are as much as a victim as anyone else in this situation.
Lol is it too hard for you cunts to understand that people can hate Cry and Chey at the same time?
I know you people can't process anything black or white but calm down and stop being emotional. Cry is a mentally ill bpd pedo who will most likely turn himself in to prison and Chey is a lolcow retard who can't read the room and is always asking for attention. People are here for milk, stop bitching about what people put publically online.
Are you fucking kidding me? You FORGIVE her? For what, being just as much as a victim
? Funny how Cheyenne can use the excuse of “I was just happy someone popular wanted me” and not have to apologize for shit she’s done. As well as blaming the crew for being “complicit” when she has admitted to it as well but because she got cheated on she has a write-off? God someone just erase Cry and Cheyenne both.
its more about framing. using pedo is much more damaging. a little white lie to up the charges against him in the twitter mob's eyes.
just wait for the second video.
Agree, not defending the guy, he's a total POS, but he's a manchild who's too emotionally stunted to connect with women his age so he decides to get the attention he needs from impressionable and young teenage fangirls.
Jury is still out as to whether he did know he was grooming those girls or he didn't know the term, but he did it anyway.
and If he didn't know they were underaged at first, then it'd make no sense for you to say this. He said he didn't know they were underaged so he stopped talking to them.
So he wasn't doing it because he's "emotionally stunted" and "can only connect with young teenage fangirls" because he didn't know their ages.
I don't know why people are so blind to her toxicity. Yes she's a victim
. Yes she's a fucking ass. We can see that. Just because you're also a victim
doesn't mean your shitty actions of your past self gets invalidated and wiped clean. She clearly hasn't grown up like how she reiterates over and over again.
Tiabeanie said that her conversations with Cry were always friendly up until her 18th birthday when "things took a turn"
I don't think he's dumb enough to sext minors, when he said "I didnt know they were underaged" that's probably true, based off what we know from Tiabeanie and Auri. Chey same thing, he waited till it was legal to date her.
There was something that was enough to make Jund do a complete 180 from "He just latches onto attention" straight to "He's actually evil."
There's probably more going on than that.
The problem is that that’s fucking weird.
Seeing a minor, and talking to them and getting close to them, knowing full well that you will get sexual with them as soon as it’s legal is fucking weird.
Plus some of the stuff that isn’t out in the public yet is “definitely illegal” according to snake.
From the info we have confirmed so far: He backed off as soon as he knew their age, and as far as we know THEY were the ones that came back to him.
I mean, there's still the idol/fan power at play here which is gross to abuse, but from what we have seen so far it doesn't seem like he went after teenage girls, they approached him without letting him know their age. Calling him a pedo seems like a stretch.
It's still his responsibility to check ages before doing sex stuff with people, but I feel there's a big difference between specifically targeting teens versus just fucking anything that moves without double checking their ages first.
NOW, the things is, if Snake and Scott turning 180 overnight when they learn new information shows anything, it's possible he DID, but, we DON'T KNOW. There's new info the LNC learned that NONE OF US KNOW.
Pretty sure I remember them saying something about waiting to see his follow up.
If they didn't, I'd definitely assume that's what they're doing.
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speaking of Chey screechings.
I know Snake and Jund mentioned it would be rude to the victims
to come out and say what happened - that it should be Cry or the victims
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He also responded to the other accusation getting thrown at him. He was probably too busy with DnD earlier to respond.
call me crazy but I feel like if Scott and Snake got undeniable evidence that changed their viewpoint so drastically from "an asshole" to "evil" and "illegal" - they would have no problem coming forward?
what are they waiting for? CRY's response? the victims
came forward and gave the go ahead, they have the power to make things right if they so choose and the only scenario in which silence is acceptable would be if they aren't even sure they believe in evidence they've been presented with
I don't think staying quiet after admitting they know more will end up well for them by the end of it regardless.
sure, they have to be careful about what they say– but they also have to be careful about what they don't.
IIRC, they're waiting to see if Cry tells the truth
Scott said he wants to see what adds up and if Cry tries to lie to him again
Snake said that everyone who has confronted him did so in DMs and he doesn't feel like he can speak on it since it isn't his story, but if him cutting off ties with Cry is any indication it must be pretty bad
There's nothing wrong with a 18 year old dating a 16yo, but if you are 25+ you have no business trying to romance kids still in highschool. It's not a difficult concept.
Where did all these creepy pro-ephebophiles crawl in from? I've never seen so many in one thread before.
I can get behind this strategy.
Still, who says what and when they say it will at the end determine how things will end.
Obviously Cry's online career, including business partners and friends of years, is severely damaged at least.
even so, I can't stop feeling uneasy about his possible actions going forward. everything unfolded so fast, he lost everything in about 24 hours (I'm not denying he deserved it)
with how unstable he seems nowadays, I don't want it to end with him taking his life
I used to totally fangirl over cry. It was a combination of his voice, his uwu wholesome personality, and just the fact that he did seem like a legitimately good, chill guy
Of course the relationship between viewer and streamer is completely manufactured, but he made it really easy to forget that and just pretend he's your friend for a bit.
also there's a lot of fanart of him, and the artists are horny af, so any drawings of him always make him way over-the-top hot
I'm not a stan (although admittedly I am the OP of the very first cry thread, hello yes I'm still here for the ride)
He had a pleasant voice (depends on your tastes of course, but he was generally well spoken and not loud/abrasive), he really enjoyed story based games and he knew how to appreciate them/when to shut up (looking at you pewds and jacksepticeye), and I missed out on his rise in tumblr, but he was pretty active there and he had a cheeky sense of humor while also seeming soft/aware of mentality, idk how to explain this, he didn't seem like a bonehead jock who doesn't understand mental health or emotions, he seemed to embrace them
Then again when I trawled through his tumblr archives his first posts are about him getting drunk every night and being a mess so that's kinda sad in a prophetic way
I think the "no face" thing made it more exciting for young teens yes, but it also enforced that idea of "there's more to a person than looks", I mean blind or hard of sight people fall in love, so how do they judge? They judge by other ways, so I think having no facial features to attach to a person just magnified everything else for them
I am one of those artists, although I only drew like 2 animations.
I caught onto his bullshit pretty early though. After the cryexposed blog, it irked me that while he never encourages all the thirst fanart/animations about him, he never discourages them either. I also remember he likes to subtly imply he's a "uwu cute nerdy gamer handsum animu guy".
As long as the "anonymous" is blue it means you did it right, just need to put sage in email field.
As for Angel, there's two groups of people that hate her.
One, is obvious, that the fans get jealous of any girl who gets close to Cry.
The other group, which most people here are, it's mainly that she comes off super fake uwu, "I'm not like other girls"
She was first friends with Russ and then he brought her onto LNC and once Cry picked her up she dropped Russ like a hot potato and ONLY hung out with Cry, even demonizing Russ to their fanbase about him having a crush on her (She made him isolated from a lot of the community saying that he was too into her, there wasn't any receipts or anything and Russ is super timid so people just took her word for it that he was being creepy)
So Angel and Cry started encouraging themselves being shipped and acted out as a couple, lot of dumb shit there. He had her on almost all the streams, a lot of videos, she got a ton of promotion.
Then she started streaming herself, once she got big enough numbers stopped hanging out with Cry and was slowly backing out of LNC and interacting with them.
So, she was pretty much clout chasing until she was able to make enough money on her own and then dipped out.
This whole situation just gave her a perfect excuse to make it official, now she can look like a good person and get more support.
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Instead of all this "he said she said" bullshit can one of these dumb whores just post undeniable proof that he sent or received inappropriate sexual material to/from one of them already. I don't give a fuck if he talked to some 16 year old or whatever, just post proof he did something criminal so I can laugh at him catching a prison sentence.
As it stands a lot of this seems to just be dumb whores whining about their poor relationship with some retard. They're all degenerate mentally ill trainwrecks to begin with. Post proof or shut up.
Jesus Christ, I fucking hate women so much it's unreal.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
not to mention she was a horrible person to stream story based games with because she would constantly talk over scenes with dumb edgy jokes without even attempting to empathize or relate to any character, all you kept hearing was her bong rips. And they fed off each other with that, because part of Cry's entire appeal was that he did story based games well>>992265
anon please go take a bath and a valium and love yourself instead of posting your weird drivel that's not even saged
russ hasn’t been doing well mentally from all this for years. i don’t usually post on twitter but there were a handful of times the guy just sounded so fucked that i would try to talk him. i always found it odd that cry wouldn’t really try to help him out but i thought since they were friends they just texted each other or spoke on discord or something. guess not.
i really wish they had just found a part time job. putting all your eggs in one basket being held by a predator isn’t the safest financial decision.
Dumb whore can't parse out the point in a very clear post. I'll help you out.
Why haven't any of the retards involved posted criminally damning evidence? By that I mean, proof Cry and these whores had sexually explicit communication.
Lmfao, you made my fucking day sir. Tbh tho what do u expect? All of these are stupid women who just want their 15 minutes of fame by playing victim
. that and simps that are desperate to label other men as pedos so they can get some p-sleeve.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
oh I know exactly what you meant, doesn't make it less weird. Your life and happiness does not depend on "criminally damning evidence", I can assure you, and calling everyone whore does not make you any less of a fucking idiot
Just stfu and enjoy the ride like we all are, jesus christ.
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Look at Auri's twitter, she's the only one so far to post proof publicly.
At the VERY least, with the hard evidence we have, Cry had inappropriate relationships with fans.
From his own admission, some of them ended up being underaged.
From what others have found out privately, it gets WORSE and illegal.
There's hardly anything to enjoy with this because these dumb whores can't just go for the killshot and instead are just pussyfooting around. If he's such an evil predator like they claim, the easiest way to demonstrate that is by showing proof they had sexually explicit communication with him. That would clear up any doubts and would make it far easier to undisputably convince his dumb fans, which is what they care about.
I'm not calling everyone a whore, just the stupid whores involved.>>992273
Exactly, e-celebs and their dumb followers just expect us to take their word on everything without providing sufficient proof. So many retards buy into it because they continue to have sick parasocial relationship with these nerds. There's no transparency because all e-celebs are mentally ill narcissists that have to maintain their image and ego. The human mind cannot handle even a modicum of fame.
it's not unreasonable but it's also not our careers, online presence or anything being at risk from evidence vs. no evidence. We are just a bunch of audience members watching an impromptu circus act and enjoying the show
But we do have that one constantly angry tasteless anon that will scorch the earth and throw temper tantrums on here wanting only the evidence that will suit their quality needs, despite hearing the admission from the man himself, which is actually rare considering most cancel mobs don't start by the instigator actually admitting they did it!
Also anon we may have opinions on people and express them here but we are not and never have been a jury, nor do we have any actual sway over the situation. If some anon here believes cry is an evil pedo, then… nothing happens. We can say what we want here without actually being in the centre of the mobs or on twitter. It's so pointless to get worked up over evidence or who says what because we're not the players of this game
Are we seriously going to pretend that half the posters here aren't e-celebs that are involved themselves or their followers? You have anons admitting as much in this thread.>>992281
Stunning contribution, thanks so much for that.
Cry is officially fucked.
it sounds like snake wants to help the victims
to do a class action lawsuit against him, and is speaking to a lawyer on how to go about it.
Not only that, but his job and all his friendships are completely done. Period.
He literally lost everything over night, and even if he apologies his reputation is fucked….
He's done. I expect either of the following to happen…
1. He gets sued and goes to jail
2. He apologies and disappears.
3. He tries to leave his body.
4. He disappears without apologies.
5. Twitch goes sjw and destroys his channel. He then disappears.
Irregardless of what happens, he'll disappear in some fashion. It's over..
One silver light of hope for him, is that he hid his personal info, such as his face and address… Makes it easier to start over.
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Cry's threads started like 4-5 years ago and were supported just fine on their own and the only admitted people who were related were once Jund, some "friend of a friend" of Angel, Ocean at one point dipped in and dipped back out when we started discussing her, and Auri who came here first before they made their twitter account so they don't count. Some people claimed to be twitch mods but we never got confirmation either, and this was during the height of Chey receipts of her being a shitty person and Cry had read the threads and their relationship was in limbo, so it was admittedly the most active
If anyone else is here anonymously that's totally their own choice but they can't do shit over here. If they have anything to lose they better protect it where it matters, and that ain't lolcow.
I cannot stress enough that this place is for observation and archiving of shit that's going down, lolcow is not the place for important shit to happen, if legal stuff is real then it's twitter DMs that will have the serious evidence
Anon use your brain, why would multiple people be saying something far more illegal happened and one of them actively pushing for victims
to contact him for help regarding legal action if it was just sexy texts?
They are fucking drama queen who like to cancel anyone over the most minuscule shit in a tweet years ago. They aren't even able to grasp that there isn't a once of proof here beside the say so of vindicative people who never peeped about it before.
It's stupid. Police won't pursue this shit when they have barely have the means to catch actual active kiddie fuckers. You guys really live in an alternate world.
Not like you need a face to be attracted to someone, when I was like 13 in 2012 I thought he was the shit, god tier voice and got really into the games he played, most notably to me Walking Dead S1 and Corpse Party. Very open emotionally when playing them and I thought that was great.
Branched off after a couple years though, and in recent years I can't fucking stand him.
I feel some sympathy for Cry's shit-end-of-the-stick family situation and the nuclear explosion going on in his mind but I cannot even begin to stand up for the shit that he's done to everyone and especially to my boy Russ.
That's a pretty strong assumption that there is no other evidence besides sexy texts.
Unless you have contact directly with cryaotic or the crew, I can't understand why you would presume that isn't anything worse. He very well could have nude pics, afterall…
Even if there isn't a criminal case against him, he easily could have a civil suit for "mental" damages to the minors/victims
Personally, I don't think the victims
are perfectly little angels who knew no better and got "groomed". At the end of the day, that doesn't matter though and he is likely to be in serious legal trouble whether criminal or civil.
How is it a strong assumption? Chey was barking at anyone yesterday, it's easy to see she had nothing in hand or she would have let it out on the spot.
It's all talk.
Chey is just a drama queen who is adding her own fluff to the allegations.
This isn't about chey directly, and from my understanding this involves many females/minors/victims
He basically is a "serial groomer" so to speak, according to the allegations. So he has a lot of 'victims
' going against him.
The key word here is "victims
" not a singular victim
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It's because it's a very realistic situation that may have a "right moral" answer but it's not the most realistic answer you'd go for if you were in this situation
Basically a bunch of guys rely on one person to bring in the people who pay them their income, but this one guy does shady things, some of which you may know a little about, some you didn't, and some are rumors coming from external parties but you don't have enough evidence to believe it
Do you shoot yourself in the foot and shoot your friends too? if one person speaks up about the big guy, it drags down everyone else too. For the greater good? It will cause controversy, drag attention, and you may never financially recover from a job I presume these guys actually enjoy doing
Or do you let the big boss slide with one or two weird moments and hope he's learned and doesn't do it again? It's not like you talk that much to them to know the whole truth, and he's not very stable either.
While I understand the in the vacuum criticism of Jund/Russ/Snake not speaking up until now, I can guarantee none of you all would be so confident in your convictions if you were put in the same spot and I can guarantee every one of us have not spoken up about something shitty when it's happened
Jund said he knew of one incident, that when he confronted Cry about it, Cry lied to him and said it wasn't true. It was his friend at the times and boss' word against an anon with no proof posted.
As for Snake, what the fuck do you want him to do? Leave Cry, like he is doing now?
Chey told all if them, repeatedly for years that the relationship was okay EVEN THOUGH she was under aged. She had the whole legality talk lined up, how is it Snake's place to do anything? He saw her Twitter thread and found out more info about Cry cheating on Chey, he didn't know Cry was a serial groomer
Jund, Russ, and Snake aren't the perpetrators here.
If anything Chey knew more than ANY of them, and she said fucking nothing until she was out of LNC gor good with no chance of returning, and didn't get to live off of "I slept with a youtuber and all I got was this blog" anymore. stop giving innocent people shit just because you spend days reading lolcow threads and they didn't.
If you want to keep dragging the other LNC members saying they should have known, don't forget to drag the one person who admitted she knew the whole time and did NOTHING.
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Even here she says "it was (her) job too and (she) left it" which is entirely untrue. She didn't leave her job? Cry broke up with her? Like she supported him and stayed up until their break up. They even made a cutesy puzzle video about it.
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Please, continue to tell us how you are the victim :)(:))
I mean, she is still a victim
. She was groomed, victims
of grooming defend their groomers. That's how it works.
That doesn't change the fact that she is still an abuse herself and has refused to break the cycle. She thinks that acknowledging that she was a bad person back then, and then claiming she's changed while acting the exact same as before is entirely okay and it's not, but that doesn't mean she ISN'T a victim
This is exactly what I mean. Don't trust anyone's word, because just as well I could claim myself to be one of the 14 victims
. I doubt all of them have any screen caps to prove these convos and even those can be shopped. Also I find it weird that there has been 14 cases, minority of them being under 18, yet no ones bragged abt this online at all? How has none of these supposed relations not ever surfaced before, I don't trust teens to not flex over something like this to each other within their friend groups in the fandom.
Chances are, they’re not teens anymore. I think some of the cases are people reporting incidents with someone who confided in them in the past, so it is possible they’re just no longer interested in speaking.
Auri, Chey, Ocean, Red, Angel, Beanie (6) is already almost half, and I could be missing someone.
I’m sure someone could be lying but the pattern of behavior is already confirmed. Proof would be nice but it’s already been pretty underwhelming. Save someone posting their own compromising photos in a chat log here (which they’d never do), I don’t think anything’s gonna satisfy the need for receipts.
I know she's a cunt but how fuckin idiotic are you to not understand a then teenager wouldn't fully understand that technically legal doesn't mean morally correct when they're groomed by a grown man ?
Awful this thread is getting filled more and more with dumbass cry fans/defenders
She married Datsilver. Something about meeting him in an MMO.
And, it's still up, just renamed.https://thedreadred-blog.tumblr.com/
Never saw this before, but, this post hits different now…https://datsilver.tumblr.com/post/144105178391/on-the-principle-innocent-until-proven-guilty
Since the fireden link from last thread isn't working too well (aka >>>/snow/700385
), here is a fresh link to the 4chan /v/ thread from 2017 where the OP dumped all about Ocean and possibly even dox'd Cryhttps://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/371325803/
and an archive of that archive in case the host eats shit like fireden didhttp://archive.md/3zN6l
Here are archived links of the evidence OP posted from that /v/ thread:http://archive.md/q9Jkvhttp://archive.md/QiayAhttp://archive.md/rPYXy
The Mega link with the logs is currently fucked (so no archive, it's useless) but I know I downloaded it at one point and possibly saved it onto one of my microSD cards, if not possibly even one of my Mega accounts. If I can find it and didn't end up deleting it after being demoralized by gaslighters, I will reupload a Mega link here.
The logs are kind of gross considering Cry and Ocean's ages, but there's still no nude pics for that one freak last thread hoping that there was dick pics/CP involved in this situation. It's mainly them talking with (cuddles
) and (kisses
) and other asterisk rp cringe.
Would've been ridiculously easy to cancel Cry LONG BEFORE NOW if there were nude pics involved that were leaked 3 years ago. Use your brains, folks.
All that said, LNC is justified in kicking Cry out. It would probably be for the best if LNC broke up after this and the others took a break from streaming for a while. Cry should just leave the internet and work on fixing his life if he's being serious about seeking self-improvement.>>992409
Mm, I was beginning to wonder if some of the silencing anons here might have been friends of his or Cry himself. The plot thickens.
Lmfao she's saying he deserves a second chance.
Honestly, until concrete evidence comes out that he did something illegal I'm just done with this shit. It just strikes me as a bunch of co-dependent mentally ill people lashing out at eachother. The way they continually crawl back into each others lives like how Beanie went back to Cry for "closure" as an adult or whatever bullshit she spouted.I sincerely doubt these girls have been so impacted and traumatised by their conversations with some shut in loser streamer from the internet. Over dramatic nonsense, unless real proof of abuse comes out.
Once again, victims
of grooming will DEFEND their groomers. They were manipulated. She even said she was STILL in love with him?
I agree with you.
Unfortunately for cry, he is fucked.
Even if it came out that he is completely innocent at least in accordance of the law… He'll still be screwed.
His reputation is completely ruined and has no chance of being repaired.
It's not uncommon for children growing up in unhealthy circumstances to mimic their parents' toxic
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In Auri’s stream, Arcadum commented that he made Cry promise to contact him before anything drastic occurred. I hope Cry follows through on his promise.
According to Auri, Cry didn’t have many irl friends and was the main source of income for his sister and nephew. He would express thoughts of self-harm/suicide and had mental breakdowns with her at least once a week. Auri also said that Cry would talk to her when he was having a ‘low mental state’. There were times where Auri legitimately feared that Cry would do something to himself if she weren’t there to talk with him as he would express thoughts of self harm or suicide. However, he did not threaten self harm as a bargaining chip.
Apparently, their relationship was entirely online and Cry never proposed any physical action. The relationship wasn’t entirely sexual in nature and Auri admits she doesn’t have much of a grudge against him and wasn’t as affected by him compared to his other victims.
Regarding Auri’s thoughts of Cheyenne, she absolutely regards her as a victim, although she thinks she’s currently projecting too hard on the crew members.
yes it's true. It was bad, very bad. But still using words just for the sake of it does not help the situation. I don't think he groomed them either. They wanted the attention and got it. He should have known better. But it's not like he smashed and dashed-
(not sure when they met, was she of age?) . He kept being in a relationship with Chey. I just hope he doesn't so something he will regret.
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Not to mention the rampant bullying i've seen on twitter, one particular case where someone tried to get them to own up.
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She's fucking awful, this isn't about justice to her, it's a fucking therapy session / pity party/ attention seeking.
Considering that the two celebrated the loss of his virginity to Chey online, lol.
As mentally ill as the people are in this situation, it doesn't bode well that they began the relationship while Chey was still a minor and ended up hooking up after she was legal. Chey is not a good person by any means but the suicidal tunglr drama really needs to take a backseat to the fact that Cry was a cradlesnatcher from the beginning. The cheating just makes it even scummier; turns out that poetic vent about thinking poorly of the men who abused his mom were evil and horrible actually meant nothing because of the timing of when all this went down.
I remember so many fangirls defending Chey back while they were dating, telling other thirsty fangirls to back off since Cry had a girlfriend. I'm sure they feel so horrified and betrayed now if they didn't already move on.>>992442
Yes, and you are being dumb because this didn't start as "getting back at Cry for being a dick", it started as Cry personally owning up to the fact that he dated minors back when his fanbase would ostracize anyone that drew him as an anime twink and the fans wanted to kiss that characterization of him.
Everything is imploding because the community turned out to be just one big trollshield, and now old fans and new fans alike are pissed that they shook hands with someone who did something they highly morally disagree with, all while the old fans were completely in the dark about it.
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Yeah, i actually looked and this person tweeted about it more, including retweeting some of coyotes stuff, and it looks like a bunch of followers might have went after them cos the account is protected now. Shes trying to slam anyone, so much for "growing"
While I do think he didn't have malicious intents during those relationships, it's a disgusting thing to do and not everyone has done something extreme to that extent in their life.
Beanie didn't play a victim
card. Beanie is a victim
. Cry admitted and directly replied to her confirming what she said and that he messed with her.
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I grabbed this one from the coyote thread before it all went before. Chey just pretty much dodging around the whole thing
Auri stream info:
Cry and Auri chatted through mostly texts and video chatted when she was eighteen. According to her, not all the minors he sexted were female. When she confronted Cry about what she saw on the lolcow threads, he didn’t come clean about them.
Cry never shared any explicit pics with Auri and he did back off when she told him she was 16 though of course this is coming from the girl who still wants to give him a second chance when even Jund has deemed him ‘evil’ and Snake is compiling a legal suit.>>992457
Fuck off with your white knighting. Snake, the most level-headed of the crew, said there were 14 victims
and Cry was doing this up to 2 days ago. There aren’t any public receipts yet, but what Snake and Jund know points towards Cry’s actions being criminal.
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I found something interesting in the likes. I grabbed these earlier today when I was at work, and the name/username seems very suss?
Possible Crys snooping account?
I can't find it by searching either, maybe deleted?>>992503
Ok it's a discussion board and not that much of a reach chill
Just learn how to type URLs: https://twitter.com/_Ryan_Is_Taken
It's obviously just a random spam account.
Are you guys literally idiots though? It's here. https://twitter.com/_Ryan_Is_Taken/
you can type urls in manually you know. It's clearly a fan account.
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My blood fucking boils from reading this. Nothing can excuse the behaviors. Does Cry or any other jackass get to be not held accountable because they had a bad childhood or a place of neglect?
If your action means someone become suicidal, no contest is going to justify that. You do NOT get to drag someone down to your level. Fuck Cheyenne and all her stans. Shit on Cry all you want but at least dude fucking admits to it when shit hits the fan, not cry and bitch about it in an attempt to play the victim
He posted a 4 minute video glossing over the fact he preyed on minors and did in fact play the victim
Sage your posts, jesus. Learn how to post before you spout your opinions.
The #1 these people need to "apologize" for is thinking everything is in black and white.
Cry grooming minors doesn't make Chey being shitty to Zieg go away.>>992136
hit the nail on the head
Yeah and also made several (albeit) weird response tweets to further elaborate. The video was a fucking bad move and, from his words, come from a place of impulse and mania.
Also I was being too impulsive and forgot to sage. Apology bro. High on caffeine right now
>>992530>>Does Cry or any other jackass get to be not held accountable because they had a bad childhood or a place of neglect?
Have you been reading this thread? People have been doing JUST that. Pulling every excuse they can.
Everyone's playing the victim
in this and there's fanboys/girls throwing the victim
card in for whatever side they are on.
Bottom line this is a mess Cry created.
Bad childhood doesnt excuse stringing along at least 3 minors ffs
They're all shitty people
How do you know it's 3 minors?
I know snake said there was about 14 victims
counted so far, but the majority of the 14 weren't minors.
I highly agree on that. Unless there are ACTUAL proofs with victims
, just like Auri did, I wouldn't trust a word from a person who knew about everything's going on n chose to speak now, only because Cry himself said it during manic episode.
since the mental mess of a head himself admitted on doing that, they abused this fact just to throw Cry away and get all the fame from cancel culutre
Cry admitted it, if they knew and kept quiet they'd continue keeping quiet.
So are you saying because Cry is a "mental mess" and being "abused" because HE admitted he was being shady?
No one made him do this, he did it himself.
I'm not that anon, but I love how people care about the mental health of cry and try to use it to lowkey victimize him but use it as a tool to shit on others involved.
Mental illness is causing everyone to act out in this mess, but funny how with Cry a lot of anon's are a lot more senstitive and understanding to it.
Now that you mention that, I do wonder what would happen if cryaotic didn't admit to the accusations in a video..
If he didn't admit to it, then maybe everyone wouldn't have been so quick to throw him under the bus. It's food for thought.
If he never said anything, no one else would've said anything. We also don't know how much the crew knew, what cry was telling them, if he was being honest with them about everything or what.
We can assume they knew everything or all the details.
They could've JUST gotten more info once Cry spoke out and his victims
If cry's this huge "mental mess", who knows what he was telling them and they probably trusted him because he's there friend.
I don't care why they are speaking out tbh, they are and it helps the people who are harmed.
No one's completely innocent in all of this, but it all falls back on Cry.
Everyone's going to monetize off this drama.
There will be some victims
who do out of attention or money.
There will be old friends who will use this as a source to gain attention/fame…
Keemstar and drama alerts will get their hands on this to shake money from the money tree.
People will all end up saying how shitty cry is, in order to gain points from the community…
No doubt about it cry fucked up; however many people will take advantage of this opportunity.
Yep, cryaotic as we know it is no more. The series has ended with a twist….
I guess he could go the path of onison… He seemed to keep a career by projecting insanity and acting insane after being accused of grooming…
people want evidence because we are sick of this pussyfooting merry-go-round. We don't care about Cry but we don't want over-exaggerated nonsense, we want stuff like Ari posted. And considering that Jund and Snake realized the shit later was so bad, they know something has to be so bad that maybe they can't release it and maybe Cry has to go to custody first. Chey is not helping and muddying the waters for the victims
, making them look like vindicitive psychos. >>992368
Why does skype suck that bad, is it like completely gone after someone removes something?
All Snake said that he knew about the cheating, he did NOT know that it was with a minor. Jund said something similar too and when he heard about the fan stuff he went to Cry and asked him seriously and took his word, what else could they have done? They have trusted Cry and Cry lied to them, that doesn't make them monsters.
We may get evidence from jund.
Jund I feel is the type of person who may just go "fuck it" and just show the evidence.
He shouldn't though for legal reasons, but he just may anyways.
On snake's stream he seemed like he was hinting he would release information if cry didn't address the issue; despite the contrary where he said it "wasn't his story to tell."
If anyone's going to release info it'll end up being one of the victims
or jund imo.
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Spill the tea or don't vague post us
"It isn't our story to tell…."
Until it's sunday of course!
skype sex or photos exchanged w/ someone <16.
also this might come from nothing but someone involved could have committed suicide.
Same thoughts, it’s very possible that one of the victims
reached out to them privately since they were the ones most involved with Cry
maybe whatever chey has as proof that cry really did have skype sex with a 16 year old while they were together
she probably has screenshots and sent it to the guys so she can finally have her “revenge”
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One of them said it on stream.
Imo that's way too long
I doubt he's carefully calculating a response if he is having a manic episode
He's an adult. he knew what he was doing was wrong, people don't have to hold his hand and explain it.
And just like he was trying to cover his ass, so are they, nothing wrong with that.
He told his own darkest shit.>>992662
So??? Yes he didn't have a hard life, but so do many other people. I don't want him to do anything and I pray he does not, but all these excuses and people trying to make him into a victim
is annoying asf.
Someone JUST said that nothing can excuse what others have done, so the same goes for him.
He needs to be held accountable.
So fuck the people who were harmed and hurt, because Cry was only "20" and lonely?
Zeigs: I almost committed suicide
Chey: It wasn't that serious!
Coyote: Posts video showcasing Chey's behavior towards Zeigs
Chey: YOU HAVE INDUCED ME TO SELF HARM
"Did have a hard life
He did that to himself and has no one else to blame but himself. He
is the one who outed himself and didn't tell a single person in his crew about the video and now they're hit with the aftermath. He should be facing consequences, manic or not.>>992663
But none of that stuff matters anon, only Cry's feelings do. Russ has a crippling depression over it? Okay, but what about Cry's feelings! His own team has to take the brunt of it while he fucks off somewhere? Okay, but what about Cry's feelings! His whiteknights are fucking dumb and it's hilarious.
"they wanted attention and he gave it"
"he didn't groom Chey, she bullied him into taking her on dates"
"Men usually date younger"
"Oh he's mentally stunted"
"Oh he's lonely"
"Oh HE was only 20 and Lonely"
nobody cares if you worry, we arent here to validate your fucking eceleb woes>>992676
something tells me they havent actually looked at the site beyond this single fucking thread if this is enough to set off the oh-so-sensitive eceleb defense force.>>992668
i thought its possible if either party had the logs on either computer? so if the op deleted the messages but the users who received the messages ran a viewer, they can check previously sent chat messages even stuck in deletion purgatory. but its been a few years since ive needed to do this, so im not entirely sure.
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Not sure if this is anything, but something to watch, at least.
you cretin not wanting someone to take their own life isn't a fangirl protecting their uwu softboi celeb.
basic human decency is to not cause something like this to happen. the fuck is wrong with you?
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2/ not the same anon but posting the rest of the screens bc this guy does not know how to thread his tweets
Where did these caps come from?>>992692
That seems to be happening a lot. Everyone kept looking away but thankfully people like Dodger dropped his ass as soon as they heard about it.
It seemed like an isolated incident, and probably didn't want to be quick on pointing fingers on grooming/predator>>992699
Also, many are dropping/cutting ties with Cryaotic not just Dodger.
Hope he releases the recording cause it sounds pretty funny.>>992702
You shouldn't have been contacted or linked here, guess some newfags here don't understand the rules about cowtipping.
>Do not alert a subject to their thread or take any other action to lead them to lolcow.farm (cowtipping).
Sorry to hear you're getting death threats, that's also against lolcow ettiquette.
You shits piling in from twitter really
need to read the Rules before posting and knock it the fuck off. Thanks.
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so he really is just garbo
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Sorry if this was posted before, but even Jesse Cox and the game he voiced in cut ties with him.
I used to watch these people and enjoy their gameplay so much, never realized all of this was happening behind the scene. Only heard few talk about cheating but… damn
I did say "people like Dodger", but yeah, it's good that they're cutting ties.>>992732
Good. Honestly, Jesse and that whole crew seem pretty positive and supporting a pedo would really fuck up their image.
you're not alone. I've been feeling out of it all day, as well.
remember the time when he ended up in ER for the gallbladder problem? it's the exact same feeling.
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Jesse is genuinely a sweetie and Julián was also prompt with his concern about this. They've done good here.
This isn't twitter or tumblr, no one gives a shit about how pedos are feeling.>>992739
And he found it funny rather than disturbing.>>992740
They seem to have genuinely not known that this whole thing was going on unlike LNC.
it blows my mind that cry didn't think that cringe articles like these were one of the very likely outcomes of posting that video, like you've been on the internet long enough dude. unless he thought his loving fanbase would lap it up and that would be that.
but then again, he had been joking about minors and the young fanbase for quite a bit, and no one really said anything sooo
Lmao, reminds me of when two other lolcows shared and edited cp with eachother in a bizzare attempt to expose a child predator ring.https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/08/alt-right-youtuber-shared-vile-sexual-images-underage-girls-8866794/
The similarity I see outside of the mere fact an article was written about them is that both of the accused have loyal fan bases, who cling to their words and just see serious accusations like this as smears by detractors or just silly mistakes. Cry will likely retain a following who forgive him, just as Warski and Ethan Ralph did as their fans are too dumb and loyal. Although it's doubtful any streamers will want anything to do with him anymore.
With the way he's been talking it definitely seems like he was lied to though. I agree he's an idiot for not doing anything about what he did know, but then so is the rest of the crew.
Since they've already established the friendship is dead and the lnc is going on without cry, he doesn't have an excuse to not come forward. There's nothing left to save
Do we know it was on vid though? Or was it their shitty text rp notices your bulge
Felix would 100% report it, imo
He was talking about YouTube in general, like look at 50% of TRO's videos, it's fuckin predators on the platform. Every other day someone new gets outed
I really don't get why so many of them are shitty people. It's hard to be a good person, but it's not hard to be at least decent.
What I really hate is how this is always used to condemn youtube/streaming and videogames as a whole.
Wonder if Dave will say anything?
I mean, he has a song featuring Cry that's for pretty vulnerable people.
"They didn’t ask, he didn’t tell
If they found out, they’d give him hell
if they knew the lowdown that he fell for people
regardless of pronouns
he was already tormented every day
but it’d escalate if he couldn’t keep a straight
face // So what’ll crack first
the eggshells he treads on or himself
Online he was everything he wanted
But real life wouldn’t let him be as honest
it’d just bring violence his way like
“How do you like this attention you special snowflake?”
They had problems at home and had to vent their feelings
or an underdeveloped sense of empathy
but knowing that didn’t make it any easier
All he could do was breathe"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYoapICIfeE
First thing to come to my mind would be "limelight", the song he and cry did together.>>992905
One was way more "in your face" than the other. It's no wonder that people, me included, were more interested on hating the shitty person that dragged the streams down and bullied others.
omg poor Russ definitely got the worst of it all
I remember feeling that Angel and Cry were dating, but that one Angelchan anon kept arguing against it, it was fucking obvious
He really has poisoned everything he's touched
cry is that person that was a nobody in high school and is so mentally stuck that they continue to do childish shit like date their friend’s romantic interest’s just for their ego.
i bet if russ didn’t have feelings for angel he wouldn’t have even bothered.
Aaaaaaaaand there we go.
That's why Angel dipped off the internet.
Maybe I'm being a brainlet but did we learn anything we didn't already know from this?
And aswell in regards to grooming, this doesn't really prove anything either right?
It seems like he gave more details on certain points. Like Cry's lies to Russ about how much he was involved with Red and Angel.>>992983
Put sage in the email field unless you have new milk.
i feel for russ but having 2/3 of a write up be about your exes instead of the victims
Where did he say it would be about the other victims
Do you not consider Russ a victim
of Cry's too?
It felt more like he was sharing his side of the story. So unless he had some kinda interaction with the victims
, it wouldn't make much sense for them to be mentioned other than saying they deserved better.
idk dude, I think it's valid
for him to share his side of things, and i think this makes it clear that there's a reason he wasn't focused as much on the bullshit Cry was doing to others, considering the bullshit Cry was doing to his face.
they're still pussyfooting around what Cry actually DID >Learning about the victims will always be the hardest part, the fact this person I once called friend and partner turning out to be a vile and disgusting monster. A person who cared about nothing but his own pleasure. A person who scarred and traumatized impressionable children
Traumatized how? jesus christ nobody cares for this relationship drama bs we want to know if Cry's a pedo or not
"I honestly don't deserve the popularity I have"
for once some fucking truth, Angel. You don't. You took advantage of one guy who cared for you and threw him in the gutter for a more popular guy who gave you everything and now you lost both, congrats you played yourself
From the sounds of it cry never came forward with anything to him. He just kept lying until someone else told.
I think it tells us more about what kind of guy he really is.
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The vod from Auri's stream about Cry got taken down
He's an egomaniac who thrives on the massive amounts of attention he gets from both the people he "befriended" and his fans.
He's just not a good person.
I'm kinda surprised she dropped her perfect princess act and confirmed everything.
Also she denies about being in a relantionship with Cry while he purposely made it seem like they had something behind the scenes.
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can you newfags start posting screenshots instead of urls? this is an image board, learn to integrate.
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And I remember how people would whiteknight Angel there kek
I like how a victim
of Cry's exonerates the rest of the crew and yet Cheyenne still goes after them saying all the victims
are saying they're involved.
Nope, but people will still be licking her ass and pinning it on Cry when it should be both of their asses being held over the fire. Russ was a cuck but god damn, he most likely told Angel about what happened with Cry and Red and both of those cunts still
went through with manipulating and shitting on the poor guy.
anyone else weirded the fuck out that Cry or Red or whoever commissioned a picture of themselves having sex? Sounding like Red was also sex obsessed.
forgot to sage my b
People were pulling the "it's hardly milk" bullshit before all of this, too. It's good for the public to know just how shitty of a person Cry really is since there is so much doubt surrounding it thanks to his "charm".>>993065
Yup. Proturd and Hoelly did the same thing if I recall. Maybe it's a cringy thing that cheaters do.
Russ is streaming: https://www.twitch.tv/russ_money
He is currently crying.
I don't think so, I think this was his first time acknowledging that.
Also, he's calling Cheyenne mean, and that she did "audacious shit"
It's a real trip; somehow the zoomer brain mutated to categorize talentless randos on the computer screen as friends and behave like they have a real relationship with them. Sorry kids, none of these ''''people''''' would piss on you to put out a fire, no need to defend them when they inevitably turn out to be attention-whoring shitbags.>>992788
There are people defending the self-admitted serial rapist e-celeb who just got metoo'd and bemoaning "cancel culture" over the backlash; no doubt that Ryan Terry will be kept afloat by devoted fans.>>993086
Damn, that's actually really sad. Hopefully he can move on and heal from all of this.
"If preying on underage girls is a pedophile he's absolutely a pedophile" -Russ
Sounds like he doesn't even know what a pedophile is, he's just trying to say Cry definitely did creep shit with minors. Which we already know. Old news.
Actually, anybody here with twitter wanna DM him and ask if he's seen confirmation that he did stuff with kids, or if it's just 15-16y/o like we already know? I'd do it but fuck twitter.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
he said on stream he won’t be answering dms
and cry is a pedophile
I personally get the feeling that they’re changing their tune now maybe not because they received some bombshell piece of new evidence, but that they’ve just spoken to more victims
directly and now feel the impact of what he’s already been outed as having done. just conjecture though
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How many ways can you say bitch?
Yeah, I figure this is the case, too. Not a lawyer, but, Romeo&Juliet laws don't apply over the internet, even if it's legal in both places, so, if he DID do any kind of sexting with a 16 y/o while in his 20s, it technically could be illegal.
So, we'll see if it get juicy enough where someone does manage to press charges.
>>993148>What do you want to call him?
receiving nudes from a minor is child porn
The evidence is already damning that he's a creep. We need further evidence about how far his actions went, but he's still a god damn creep.
Who cheats with their "best friend's" girl while dating someone, then also goes on to basically steal away their best friend's next crush and enables her shit talking him? All while he was talking to teenagers on the internet for years and relying on them for mental support through his "weekly" breakdowns because he can't stand up for himself. Even if there was no romantic/sexual relationship there, it's still fuckin weird for an adult man to act that way with teenagers who adore him because he has a nice voice and a mysterious vibe.
Nothing anyone does would please this idiot. They could all apologize to her (for what though kek) and she would still want more. They may as well ignore and block her at this point cause it's just mindless screeching.>>993156
No one cares, whiteknight.
People close to the situation who have more information than we do direct from victims
(Snake, Russ, Jund) are saying he's definitely done something illegal and calling him a pedo. That isn't enough for you?
I'm positive if Cry were to say he did talk to underaged fans, you'd just say "it's legal where he is" or "he's manic"
None of this would happen if CRY never said it, the fact he said he was talking to underaged people without knowing, makes me feel like maybe someone was about to come out with something and he's covering up by saying he did not know.
I don't know why it's so crazy to believe someone so mentally fucked up and "Stunted" as white knights like to say would do something mentally fucked up and Stunted.
Either way messing with a teenager as a grown man, who plays GAMES for a living, with a large minor audience is fucked up no matter HOW you slice it.
Tyga was accused of messing with Kylie before she was 18 and guess what? No one gave a fuck if it was legal or not, people find it gross when older men mess with women under 18 regardless if it's legal. Shit people find it gross in general not just for men.
it's a imbalance of power.
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And here we go, yet again.
I think he did. Back when I watched him, he would always mimic people he admired or found funny - like Tolo and Russ.
I remember Tolo kept saying things like "dawg", etc, and before I knew it Cry kept saying it as well. I'm not sure if it's a direct causation, but it's certainly a thing that happened. That and Cry would mimic Russ' humour and phrases. He's a very impressionable guy, I imagine.
I also think he may have mimicked Pewdiepie's way of speaking back when he was younger (very pinched, in a way, not as slurred or "chill" as Russ speaks).
Made me remember that there was a time Cry and Tolo were playing Dauntless together and Cry said said "sup girl" to Tolo's then-girlfriend and he immediately told him to not talk to her. Was probably in jest but really makes you think.
And now my sides have died because I found that specific moment in an archive of the stream and Tolo followed that up with "Cry's a predator though" in reference to his behavior towards Outstar>>993187
Cry is a self-admitted "social sponge" where he'll pick up other's habits, like when he started calling everybody dog when Tolo was a regular, so it was probably on Cry's end. I do that to, and at least for me it's an unconscious thing, so I would hesitate to call it purposefully manipulative.
Been a 'LNC' fan since 2011; and stopped watching in 2015 due to Cheyenne's personality.
Not really. Back then, they always had their own unique style.
If you watch Russ's stream he has a distinct cadence thats subtlely different from Cry, and distinctly all his own. Always has been that way.
However, to be honest I always saw them as brothers (especially back then) and yeah their styles overlapped; they relied on each other. Until Cry "self-isolated" as Cry himself admits to he did over the past 6 years (not to mention betraying everyone).
Anyways, none of this really has to do with what's going on. He wasn't copying anyone, hes just a huge liar and "pretended to be the person expected [him] to be" as Cry said, for almost ten years.
Just watched Russ's stream, the poor guy's crushed. He confirmed what Scott and Snake said, that everything was all online. What doesn't make sense to me though is how Cry allegedly groomed grownass adults who should really know better. Everyone obviously should get fucking pissed about the fact that Cry got sexual with minors, but remember that Snake said that most of the fourteen victims
weren't minors/above 18 at the time.>>993142
I agree that there must have been some incriminating chat logs that made Scott/Russ go from 'Cry's an idiotic beta loser who inadvertently preyed on people because he couldn't get any pussy irl' to 'Cry is evil and actively grooming/manipulating impressionable minors', a magnitude far beyond the creepiness they tolerated from him earlier (namely, Cry texting a 16 year old when he was 22).
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son of a bitch knew the majority of his audience was underage, stop buying his "cheated with girls he didn’t know were underage at the time” bs
Samefag of >>993231
but really as long as this girl keeps posting proof and doesn't try to use the attention to promote herself, she's the only real milk source.
I knew cry but thus shit is eye opening, and I'd like to hear it from a real source and not some clout chasing channel.
I'm almost certain he'll be speaking, because it's easier to wring sympathy out of people when it's coming from the voice they know and loved.
Personally I'm begging for a face reveal for the drama but if he wants to get any semblance of a normal life after this he won't.
Was thinking the same thing, because I couldn't imagine admitting to an audience of hundreds of thousands something like what's being claimed. He was sobbing and crying over just having a breakdown randomly, how the fuck is he going to handle unloading THIS baggage?
Also I was thinking that the guys were giving him 3 days considering they each took one day to do a stream and talk about everything with him delivering on the next day. Who knows though. The current rumor is he has until Sunday.
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He tweeted this before Cheyenne posted the 'blocked' screenshot
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In response to her tweets about Snake blocking her
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He said his parents were mentally ill, hoarders, alluded to his father being a shit person that encouraged toxic
masculinity, and went so far as to call his parent's home a "meth house." I sincerely doubt it was even safe there, both emotionally and physically (due to the hoarding). Shit, I never would've wanted to go back either, especially after I finally managed to get out.
Might have, could have, who fucking knows. Cry still fucked his friend/co-worker over. And he didn't even get a proper apology after he confronted him about it on Sat.
And if you get a good paying gig, almost every single person is going to put up with some bullshit to keep that
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not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I wonder who they could be referring to as the other LNC member.
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The problem here is no one is coming at Cheyenne for lashing out at Cry.
Cheyenne is justifying her abuse as an excuse to lash out and project onto everyone.
"You didnt come forward to stop Cry! You guys knew she was 16! You were adults!"
Actually, YOU WERE THE ONE WHO KNEW she was 16 and YOU were an adult. You were the one who didn't stop Cry.
You're lashing out because you feel guilty, Cheyenne.
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incredibly fucking hypocritical that immediately after posting an extremely vague and accusatory statement that definitely requires follow up, she tweets this.
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Apparently Outstar got threatened by Cheyenne for the heinous crime of being nice to Snake.
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she defended snake though, so she probably wasn't accusing him
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confirmed pictures involved, nothing on if they were taken while underage.
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it's not snake that's for sure, my money's on jund. he's known to be quite an ass himself.
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thank god, please.
lmao "those who want to be Twitter lawyers" we get it you're upset snake is taking action and simultaneously debunking your claim that "nobody cares :("
she wants justice but only if she is at the center of it all
I've been following this for a while and it's kinda weird to me because cry isn't the only one with this happening to him. There's been multiple streamers and youtubers, all the same pattern.
One victim talks, the ex is suddenly best friends with the victim, they lead the witch hunt together and 10 new victims suddenly appear. A single one of them has proof and the proof down plays the claims they have. Anyone else doesn't have actual proof but you have to believe them because it's 'guilty until proven otherwise' now.
I didn't forget Chey defending her age on tumblr, now she's the one manipulated. It's truly a wonder.
And while Cry is a horrible horrible person, and frankly very pathetic, he is not the evil witch people seem to want him to be. He just seems like every other pathetic guy with no life on the internet, he just happened to get famous for his voice.
Did Cry do those things? Sure, some of them. But LNC said they were never friends with cry the moment these claims started. So I wouldn't put it past them to believe anything victims say without proof as they want to save their own image.
This thing is a mess. If Cry did something illegal, just give it to the fucking police. If he didn't, then fuck off. It's not that complicated. Unless this is just some revenge drama.(newfag)
Knowing what I know about Chey, I don't know if anyone is even capable of manipulating her, seems like she's doing plenty of manipulating herself to the other victims
but that's just me.
That probably meant talking to the victims
individually. Beanie mentioned it in a post somewhere.
But didn't the victims
also say he didn't contact any of them so far?
That's true. I'm of the belief that it was less malicious manipulation and more 'i desperately want attention and will do anything to get it' which therefore led to a lot of toxic
and manipulative behavior, and the fact that he was famous to these people was just something convenient that happened to work in his favor and enabled the behavior
We dont even know the last instance of what.
This is tiring.
I get that feeling as well. I'm positive he understood it was wrong, considering he was hiding everything and lied to cover it up, but the fact that he kept the train going for so long with Angel and even further cases suggests to me that he generally just did not give a shit.
Who knew our boy had it in him.
It's not that he didn't care, he just has been using this as a crutch for so long for his own problems with communicating that he didn't know how to stop and even know it was wrong.
He sought his victims
and lied about his actions because he learned to do it well, this is what he did for almost the past 10 years.
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Auri said he saw his lolcow threads in 2016, meaning that he knows these threads exist and probably lurked them himself, if not possibly even posted here pretending to be his own fans as much of a tinfoil guess that is.
Not to toot our own horn, but I bet at one point he read >>839907
, specifically>Imagine if someone actually made a big public callout post highlighting the Ocean/Chey drama and put it next to his current behavior and it picked up wind. It would scare away plenty of his current viewership.>It would scare away plenty of his current viewership.
And that stuck with him.
His little community, held together by glue and shoestrings, gone in an instant once they realized that he had stepped out of line.
Think of the guilt he felt reading that and knowing its truth. That's why. That's why he owned up to his actions. He had to finally see how this would all play out.
meant for >>993432
>>992360>a guy with depressoin and other mental issues, with no other jobs or ways to earn money, was forced to work under the guy that manipulated and cucked him
yeah, what an asshole, he definitely doesn't deserve sympathy
jesus christ, how can you be so unempathetic?
She dated Witwix a couple times before she got engaged to Jund. Witwix was just an annoying sexpest and everyone involved was an adult. The worst of his accusations is sexual harrassment, lots of cheating, and self-harm/suicide baiting. No teenagers involved.
Witwix has always been really grossed out by sexualized minors, to the point he said that's why he wouldn't play Splatoon over it; because the designs made him really uncomfortable lol.
I'm glad that he's seriously considering professional mental help, the stuff about him punching himself sounds like he really needs it badly.
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What the fuck. Posted August 27 2012.
The "Gary from Ib" shit sounds so familiar. Did another victim
talk about this before?
>>993499>I eventually gave up fighting him putting himself on me and just let him do it.
Bad sex with your pathetic needy drunk boyfriend is not rape to most people. It would be rape if she persisted saying no and never stopped fighting him until he physically prevented her from resisting, but by her own admission she gave up and had sex with him. The way she worded it makes it seems pretty grey area in general, and it's clear by "(he) was almost crying at me to let him" and the kissing that it wasn't intended as an act of hatred or violence against her.
It also depends on what state you live in, as some charge sex with intoxicated people as rape no matter which party initiates it.
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So no one is going to point out she said this right after her rant about Jund “blackmailing” her about Cry? That’s a fucking yikes from me you lying bitch.
Honestly I don’t really think there is enough proof of him being specifically sexual towards minors. It mostly seems like whoever went up to him said “hey I love you” he then would start being flirty and gross. Well there is ONE proof given and it showed he backed the hell off when she said she wasn’t of age. The others gave close to no proof, only statements without any kind of backup.
To clarify I do not doubt a single victim
, I 100% they’ve been through so fucking much but a few chatlogs are NOT going to send him to jail. Unless something that actually proves he’s a pedophile then he’s not going to face any form of legal action, despite the fact he hurt so many girls.
I genuinely hope whatever information Snake's got is enough to convict him, but the justice system in general is bullshit with shit like this anyway. Even if there was a lot of evidence stacked up against him, it's still a coin toss.
Unless he's got actual CP stashed in his computer that's in his home, then I doubt we'll be seeing legal repercussions.
yeah, here's the thing: if she's not pressing charges against him over it then there's not much else that needs to be said about it. either that night was traumatizing enough to get court involved or it was a bad aftertaste of a trash relationship that is long gone and clearly never going to happen again.
there are more important things the two of them can focus on instead of that evening, and the same can be said for us as well.
>>993516>and then him and BattleStar had an argument about the pronunciation
O/T but anyone else here remember when people would get pissed off at Cry for being unable to pronounce Japanese things?
He used to try to correct himself when people offered corrections but at some point he stopped giving a shit and convinced his audience to call others "weebs" for trying to make him not sound like a an even bigger weeaboo.
I never said it was okay? I absolutely despise what he did and I wish all hell would break loose on him. But if this goes on like this without one of them telling us he purposely harassed them when they mentioned they weren’t of age then we shouldn’t call him a pedophile at ALL. There is no proof of him being like that, and if there’s anything that we can see its him NOT being a pedophile. But this does not justify what he did to those girls, it was still manipulation and grooming no matter how we put it, but these aren’t enough for a legal case.>>993544
Also read this ^
It's a shame nobody archived her full twitter page right before she did so, and the google cache is old as balls.
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Here's the Skype log Ocean posted in case it gets taken down or whatever. The other person is Ziegs.
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I know there's a lot of new anons ITT, but for future reference please learn to use archiving websites like archive.md for saving twitter posts, or any important webpages for that matter, rather than just screenshots. They are better proof because they preserve the entire webpage at that point in time, and detractors can't argue that you photoshopped anything because it displays exactly as the webpage would've presented at that moment in time.
There's only a few thing that archive.md can't save like youtube videos or pages that require a login to see. Downloads and screenshots are understandably necessary to capture those.
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The tweets that prompted Ocean to recover the Skype chat logs
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Ziegs reactivated and locked her account lol
To be fair, if Chey had actually presented evidence like Ocean is right now she would've had a lot more credibility way back when.
Instead, she didn't save shit and expected everyone to take her word, and insulted people who doubted her. Not very smart.
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Although I think snake is trustworthy…
It is very possible to stage new conversations in order to protect themselves.
The fact ziegs mentioned a cover-up from years past, I wouldn't be surprised if they are discussing on how to cover themselves from any liability now that the cat is out of the bag.
That doesn't make much sense to me though. I legitimately don't think they had any idea the breadth or scope of what Cry was doing. They wouldn't be having such emotional reactions; they would've been more prepared for all this.
I think more than likely, they knew about one or two incidents, and not how bad they were. They learned a little bit here and there over the years. Then, when Cry released the video, they made him own up to literally everything. And in Cry's manic state, he was completely honest with them, or as honest as Cry can get.
That would explain why they're reacting so extremely, and the only reason we don't know is because they are waiting for Cry to admit it all.
i doubt cry said shit to them. from what I can tell, based on Snake and Jund and Russ's streams, cry himself hasn't admit to shit, all the info they've been getting has been coming from victims
The only thing we know that cry admitted to, according to the rest of the lnc, was cry fucking around with red and the angel stuff.
I think it's quite likely that the crew has visited lolcow before. Plus multiple allegations have been going on for years.
I just can't see how the whole crew wouldn't know what's going on within their own community. It's not like all these allegations are new. I would think at least one of them would be very curious about constant allegations to the point of looking into it and getting into the rabbit hole.
I just see it likely that they bit their tongue. Even if they did know, or at least expected it… It's not like they could admit it without being guilty by association. The mob would eat them alive.
Probably in discussion with the few friends he has left on what he should do. While also having a mental breakdown.
Wouldn't be surprised if zieg is in direct contact with him right now. She seems like she is loyal to cry.
He's in a tough spot where he's screwed no matter what action he pulls. Nothing he can say or do will fix this situation. However, he needs to choose his actions wisely because he can easily dig his hole deeper.
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Oh, absolutely. The invisible tweet seems to be Sage. Snake also mentioned it on his stream to say the same thing as the tweet.
Was also this from the last thread >>>/snow/990531
though I don't know where I'd begin to look to find that post.
Cry WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS SHIT. This "He has no spine, he's such a soft depressed boy" shit is retareded. He had enough spin to fuck around with Red, he had enough spine to do youtube for years, he had enough spine to cheat, he had enough spine to talk to people online.
He had enough spine to express regret. What the fuck? Do you guys feel he's actually retarded?
Sorry, meant to quote >>993666
Not sure what happened
The other one was deleted by me, because I forgot to sage and didn't feel like being banned.
Yeah, that's what I figured. The whole crew probably read lolcow every now and then, but bit their tongue on the knowledge they knew.
Honestly chey does make good points , and I wouldn't be surprised if she actually is telling the truth about everything.
It's just… she's a bitch and comes across that way as well. So no one takes anything she says seriously.
Either way, I don't think the crew should be burned at the stake for cryaotic's actions even if they knew imo.
Yeah, it really seems like nearly everyone involved turned out to be retarded. Who tells someone, "Would you be willing to deny it if it came up?"
It's resembling the Proturd situation so much, except Snake, Jund, and Russ right now are the only ones not going down with the ship… for now. At this point, it wouldn't be surprising if something came out about them.
And on top of that it would only further incriminate the rest of the LNC.
If Ziegs knew why wouldn't the rest of them?>>993713
This is still absolutely true.
Exactly. Ziegs is complicit, case closed. No need to dig into it further, folks.
This whole thing is shit and everyone involved sucks.
I think the same.
My theory is that most of the crew knew to an extent but just didn't care enough or thought it wasn't their problem.
Ziegs is complicit in it, but I don't think most of the crew was. Most of the crew probably turned a blind-eye and hoped for the best.
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I can see her tweets. I don't know if she had tweeted anything recently, today mainly, but there's nothing from today. The most recent thing on her twitter is something about Nioh.
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Ocean himself retweeted their statements. If this isn't proof that they've been telling the truth this whole time then idk what is.
The question is still though, if Cheyenne knew all this, why didn't she go public?
The answers probably the money she was blackmailing Cry for.
Cheyenne is 100% still a bitch and also complicit imo. She wasn't some helpless, brainwashed victim
, she spent literally her entire relationship with Cry gloating and justifying the age gap.
yeah, because of the manipulation, moron. thats literally how that works. shes still a bitch, but that doesnt mean she wasnt also crys victim
Is there some sort of proof of this?
Not defending anyone since I'm trying to be objective but there's no reason for me to believe this right now.>>993747
Yeah she's still the world's biggest piss guzzler even if she isn't completely wrong in the end. Needs to learn how to control herself.
She blackmailed Cry and tore apart LNC and LNC community in 2014/15 and almost drove Ziegs to suicide.
Now, after being irrelevant for 5 years, she wants her revenge on LNC and destroy them and the community completely.
It actually makes the most sense. From what Snake and even Cry said, they pretty much showed, played games, then didn't speak til the next week.
It makes infinitely more sense that the smaller community members like moderators would all speak more to each other than they did. Dont they literally do a modchat restream every week
If anything illegal is actually involved, fuck no it won't be better for him doing a full admission of guilt. His only hope would be underaged victims
meeting the statute of limitations don't decide to ride his ass to the law. Even then, I don't quite know if the law can get involved if it involves a full admission of guilt for something like underaged nudes.
Show some proof. I don’t know why Cheyenne would tell only Ziegs about Ocean’s age, but Ocean himself seems to be supporting Snake and Scott’s statements that they were unaware of his age at the time.
Given Sage’s deletion of her posts and Zieg’s privating of her Twitter, I’ve taken the liberty to archive the thread calling out Ziegs for knowing about Ocean being a minor and asking him to not speak out for the sake of Cry’s career. The situation is complex, it’s good to maintain an archive for posterity. Use archive.is and just type in the url of the webpage to be saved, it’s that simple and takes less than a minute.https://archive.vn/uW7wP
(Ocean’s callout against Ziegs and the Skype logs. A refresher, Ocean is the minor Cry cheated on Chey with, who was not allowed back on stream after the fact.)https://archive.vn/t2WjL
(Tiabeanie’s reply showing a DM sent by Ziegs under the assumption that all the ther members of the LNC shared the same level of information as her — that Ocean was a minor.)https://archive.vn/0gJkJ
(Snake’s own Discord logs with Ziegs and her downplaying of her involvement.)
There's not point in even saying this. They hate her so much they can't see that she can be a victim
and a huge bitch.
It's crazy how I'm seeing so many people trying to downplay/victimize cry but then constantly push the narrative that someone being a bitch means they can't be taken advatange of, but at the same time because Cry's life is so tragic, he doesn't have friends, he doesn't know how to be an adult etc. there's no WAY he could do bad things on purpose, there's no way he purposely took advatange of people.
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Just stumbled across this old post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaoticMonki/comments/2oikzn/what_happened_to_red/
Imagine typing that comment out when you're the reason the whole thing happened.
On the lolcow threads, depending on what year you check, it hasnt always
been about allegations as far as I know. In 2014/15 it was about Cheyenne being a bitch to ziegs/cry/everyone.
First of all, if you hear "Cry cheated on me[Chey] with that person[Ocean] who just played with us on stream, we won't be playing with them again" you don't think "Oh! better check if they're underaged."
Thats Cry's responsibility, no one thought Cry was a pedo, sometimes he talked about mature stuff on stream, but pedo… no, it blindsided everyone.
Obviously there should have been boundaries between streamers/mods/audience, but back in the heyday of LN, there wasnt such a thing. I mean, didn't like most of LNC date fans/mods of the show, thats my assumption anyhow.
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This clusterfuck is getting impossible to keep track of, so here's a timeline of what we know happened so far.
A bunch of dates are just educated guesses, based on people's ages, known birthdays, and how long they stayed in contact.
Obviously this is just a small sample of the 14+ people who made themselves known to the LNC.
If anyone has more precise dates let me know and I'll update the chart.
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so apparently cry played video games while everyone else was dealing with the shitstorm he created
where did you get this from?
i have a feeling he's been completely off social media and genuinely doesn't know what's happening.
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idk if i'm misreading but ocean liked this tweet implying ziegs didn't know they were a minor? (http://archive.today/QWGsm
As a person that plays VRChat, he was not playing with anyone in VR. When you start up a game, SteamVR randomly starts up sometimes alongside a game that is not VR related.
sorry forgot to sage
Speaking of, is anyone else finding it weird that Ocean's log was editted like that?
Logs come out chronologically, so why edit it in the first place is there wasn't a conversation in the middle?
Does anyone also remember Ocean's things from the older threads? I vaguely remember something suspicious happening about all her allegations back then.
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ocean unliked it and replied, so the like might have just been an accident.
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Yikes, guess Cry really has fucked up big time if Auri doesn't forgive him any more, she was pretty much the only one who seemed neutral about him
So it's established that Ziegs essentially fucked everyone over by lying.
That's really fucked
Actually, the logs say that Cheyenne's the one that told everyone.
Wouldn't that prove she knew Ocean's age as well, and did nothing?
i think chey found out ocean was 16 earlier this year in january when she posted that one tweet, idk though.
ziegs might've known ocean personally? i honestly am not sure about all of the relationships in this incestuous group
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yeah, she knew, shes brought it up before. shitty that she never said anything until recently, but given at the time shed been groomed into thinking that shit was just fine its a little more understandable. still makes her a hypocrite to be attacking everyone else.
i think he's gonna play the daddy issues card rather than victim
Pretty sure the LNC are also willing to screw him over if he doesn't respond.
Honestly, it feels like all his "friends" know he's going to flake, and are just giving him time to be polite.
Especially since he's been playing Noita this entire fucking time.
we can be mad at both. not telling anyone or letting it happen is one thing, but actively covering it up and manipulating the victim
not to come forward is extremely shitty. doesnt matter if cry told her to do it or not. she still did it.
I'm just trying to say that Cry can't even do his own dirty work, and dragged other people down with him. Plus, it's clear that no one- not even those who knew about Ocean
- expected him to do this serially
(save for the victims
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Potentially getting something tonight.
I've moved on to Jesse Cox for story based games, he's a lore fanatic and he can sometimes predict plot points way before they even come up
him + scary game squad playthrough of Until Dawn was amazing, they legit solved the entire thing within the first like 4 videos or something
Man… I hope that feelin' ain't true.
For as much as a fkin' scumbag as he is, and deserving of everything that he's gettin'. I still hope he won't entertain the thought of takin' his own life. I wouldn't wish that on goddamn anybody.
I should clarify I mostly watch games I've already played. When they play on Scary Game Squad (with Alex + Jirard from Completionist/Super Beard Bros and Davis) they get drunk on cheap whisky so it's mostly about the fun and laughs
also I do recommend super beard bros, alex faciane and jirard, and they also have brett too in there. If you've seen any Jirard vids you've probably seem them, but they are hilarious. They don't get super deep into lore, but they are very funny and have great chemistry, I've honestly teared up laughing at some of the things they say and they don't keep repeating shit like game grumps, super beard bros have replaced the super best friends play/game grumps format of friends chilling on a couch having fun
There is also our queen Dodger who is great to watch because she's chill but she's gone mostly to streaming lately if you don't mind watching streams
If you want females I would recommend Geek Remix who take stories seriously and don't yell, Strange Rebel Gaming is cool too and she also voiced Aerith in the FF7 remake, Nyxipuff is cute and she really enjoys the games she plays so she's enthusiastic, Point Crow is mostly a Zelda player, he started as a BotW speedrunner and he does lots of random challenges but he really loves it
Honestly yeah I've rehauled a lot of my gamer subscriptions lately because so many of them are just shitty people. Nowadays I watch people whose opinions/beliefs I align with, or whose gameplays they take seriously; sometimes I don't want them to make shitty jokes and not care about what's going on, I want them to appreciate the game and the story it has to offer
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Auri said this in Discord so I'm incredibly worried for her
He clearly hasn't contacted her about the video, so that's great, isn't it? Piece of shit.
Yeah, I've been thinking about that, too, and hoping that if nothing else, he decides to do rehab/inpatient of some kind to get out of his fucking home.>>994017
I do like Scary Game Squad a lot, but I typically wait to watch their videos because the group of them tend to get things really early on, so that may not work so well for you. But if it's after you've already experienced the twists, or you just want the pure fun of a bunch of friends goofing off, go for it! They've got old-school Super Best Friend vibes, if you were ever into them.
Nah, cry's too much of a pussy to off himself
I'd be willing to bet after his video releases he's just gonna try and go back to streaming after a week or two and pretend nothing happened.
and all the little white knight faggots defending him here and on twitter and shit are gonna eat that shit up and he'll continue fucking around with fans until the FBI breaks down his door
So the usual "My parents made me the way that I am". He's too old to still be using that card.>>993998
After all the shit that has happened with other e-celebs, you probably shouldn't trust them anyway. Enjoy their content, but always keep in mind that their persona could be fake as hell. Only a few are actually genuine.>>994052
Good, it should haunt him for the rest of his life.
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Cheyenne's seen the tweets - I don't use Twitter enough to know, if Snake blocked her can she see his responses?
put "sage" in the email field.
no, but someone who does have access has been sending screenshots and feeding her the tweets even though she's blocked
If I were him shudder
I'd legally change my name and move out of state
Chey has the IQ of a matchstick, goddamn.>>993998>>994008
There's several other "quiet" youtubers/streamers out there now, I know a lot of people that moved on from Cry that watched various Vinesauce streamers (Rev and KY are both pretty quiet and witty), Jerma985, pre-FNAF Markiplier, etc. Jesse Cox and Octopimp are fun since they're professional voice actors and know how to balance sound well. Exploring your streamer options is easier now than before.
There's so many others, and I'm sure there's good small streamers as well. The "loud = funny" shit died out a long time ago and the most popular Twitch streamers are people who make nuclear hot takes on silly things rather than being loud.
Also, Cry's voice is total shit now. You can hear how much different it is from most recently to back in the early 2010's when he was still a virgin. It's got vocal fry now.
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This is from a thread where someone encouraged Jund to dox Cry's face. Is Ocean backing Jund or is he agreeing with the other user?
so, ocean seems to break with chey and tia on going against the whole ass crew for them being complicit. ocean revealed ziegs' being horrible in all this, but doesn't seem to have the same kind of revenge mentality the others do towards scott, snake, and russ. he even retweeted their individual statements.
i mean, not to award places or crowns or whatever, but even a few years ago ocean was pretty level throughout all of that, had his story out there, and there wasn't a sudden lnc exodus or "cry is a groomer" thing. i feel bad for him most of all, since its been out there for yeas that cry had sexually explicit conversations with ocean when ocean was a minor (a little different than the grooming then becoming explicit that others are reporting), and from what ziegs said in those old skype logs, this seems to be the most egregious case of whatever cry was up to including legal trouble.
not to speculate, but i do think someone in snake's stream chat had said something about having a 14 year old's pictures involved. i feel like tia and beanie claim to speak on behalf of a lot of the victims
, and surely they've been in contact with some of them, but i don't know if the people who have been most hurt by this are necessarily a part of that/have been listened to equally.
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Oh jeez are they really going to try the “but Chey’s a bitch!” defence? Y’all KNEW about the minor situation. Who gives a fuck about Chey??
These people are a damn mess, and they’re not helping themselves.
With his self described "bad memory" I wouldn't be surprised if he's forgot a lot of them.
But honestly, he's probably lawyering up and making sure his family is taken care of before he drops the video. You know… in between playing games, I guess. I don't think he ever really planned to talk to any of the victims
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I guess a lot of y'all weren't there for the 2011/12 streams. Many of the fan calls were like this.
There isn't anything inappropriate from the crew here in this call, I mean it's the same as if a fan goes to a meet and greet? Looking back, they totally
should've made it 18+ only. But honestly, these were different times, innocent times. Back when there were no huge scandals, no "content creators". I don't even remember how they were paid from twitch; that was relatively new, as I recall.
In his stream interactions he was always
appropriate from what I remember. The only thing that is notable back then was Cry's crush on Cheyenne, which was pretty obvious for those who paid attention. As a viewer I thought it was cute/innocent at the time because it was two friends playing games and falling in love? There weren't any red flags.
Of course I'm not defending Cry, their relationship, or his actions. This is just how it was percieved back then from what I personally remember. No one would even suspect Cry was a pedo, or master manipulator, back then. These were different, more innocent times.
agreed for the sake of irl stuff too, but granted the "illegal" stuff done, there may well be a face reveal…on the fl so registry…
problem is that face could lead to people snooping for addresses, which leads to more issues with legality of doxxing, etc.
lel, she legit replied
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he’s taking a while to respond
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Highly doubt it.
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update from auri's discord
some of the victims
were male according to Snake.
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auri is posting live updates of her convo with cry in her discord, here's the most recent
Can we talk about how absolutely disgusting it is for this predator to tell his prey that he still loves her? Do you think he tells all his victims
I literally think I'm going to be sick.
Even if what he said was true; he must know by saying that he's digging his own grave right?
That it looks very bad on him??
Does he even know she's informing the world of their conversation? If he doesn't he is a very naive guy…..
yeah, i think it was also auri who posted screencaps earlier of a few years before (or maybe beanie? i forget) where he approached with the same "I love you, I feel bad for what I did to you, I wish I was different" thing.
ngl this sounds like he's also prepping the bed to end it all too though. the "I want to start off by saying" the current/future tense of "for who you are becoming" makes this feel awfully last-confession-y
What is this screenshot Scott saw that this Peanut Gallery cunt is harassing him over? I think I missed something>>994279>I still very much love you
What a sad little man
please read the rules, stop posting old milk, learn to sage, and learn how to use an imageboard. im begging. >>994284
theres a literal youtube field in the reply form to embed the video.>>994294
this is what im thinking, even saying that he hasnt talked to anyone else (truth or not doesnt matter). he saw she forgave him at some point and is trying to take advantage of her vulnerablity. makes me sick.
>>994279> I wish i was nothing but faithful to you
So what about chey in this? Considering chey was his girlfriend at the given time. Also he sexted with ocean during that time too.
Looks pretty bad on him if you consider the full context.
Go read the rules and learn to sage.
This is a gossip discussion forum. There are rules not to interact with the cows, doxing is also against the rules.
of course he is.
His crew probably is too.
She's still pretty confused about her feelings for him which makes her an easy target to manipulate.>>994311
Who cares what they think.