/sty/ - pigsty

>>2059
i would be really happy tbh because i wish i was born male
>inb4 memegender
i dont "identify" with anything, i accept the way i was made, just wish it wasn't this way.

>>2060
Same. I'm ok with being a woman but if someone had given me the choice before birth I'd choose dick over vagina anytime.

Wake up as a man or just a girl with a dick? Either way I'd just jack off for a while and then get bored

>>2062
same

>>2060
>>2061
Same. I even thought of going through a gender operation for a time, but I realize it just wouldn't be it.

>>2059
The same thing I do every night, Pinky… Try to take over the world!

>>2060
Newest addition to the list. Well done.

>>2068
thanks hitler

>>2060
is this the equivalent to the r9k "women have it so much better, I wish I was born one"?

>>2070
each gender has its negatives and positives, but I would argue that men still have it better on average.
Being taken seriously for one. I work in STEM field and despite working more and achieving better results than others, I still get talked down to, as if I were a child. I'm not claiming I'm a genius but oh boy, they are so full of themselves.

Secondly, sexual harrasment. I can't count how many times I've been harrassed. The worst part is; I feel guilty, I feel dirty. I'd rather go in an honest 1 on 1 fight, than being handled like cattle.

I know I'm far from being the only woman that goes through this. I can't stand men but being one would make my life 80% easier.

Also, if you're not married by your mid 30s, people constantly nag you. To hell what others think, just so many idiots think their opinion matters to decide what is best for me despite not being close.

I suppose women that want to have family have it even worse, they have to take time off work to raise a kid, and oftentimes house chores are on her burden.

Masturbate, helicopter, make my bf suck me off, helicopter some more, piss my name in the snow, put it into random objects, study it

>>2062
>Either way I'd just jack off for a while and then get bored

You just described manhood in its entirety

>>2070
Nope. I agree with >>2071
- each gender has its negatives and positives. Men carry more responsibility, they don't get as much help, they might have to got to war etc.
But at least their life doesn't end with 30 and in most cases friendship between men seems more genuine than between women.

I'm simply not very good at being a woman. I don't feel uncomfortable in my skin, I never thought about surgery or anything. I'm not even trying to look androgynous.

>>2074
>But at least their life doesn't end with 30

So, when do you believe that mens lide ends at?
And why does womens life end at 30?

>>2070
i'm a stoic, burly man trapped in a short girl's body

>>2075
Women are supposed to settle between age 25-35, in Eastern Europe even earlier. Only a minority is considered attractive after the age of 35.
Men on the other hand can be attractive at every age (except maybe 75 upwards.) I'm not talking about movie stars. I know many men above 45 that I'd consider hot. I also know men who weren't good looking in their 20s but became more attractive in their 30s or 40s. A 45 year old man can start a family with a 27 year old woman. The other way round though… For a 45 year old single woman it's hard to find a partner her own age. Besides social norms it's simply dangerous to start having kids at this age for women.

Sure, nobody forces me to settle in my 30s. But I just can't make myself buy into the you-go-girl-40-is-the-new-20-mentality. I don't want to become an old, lonely cat lady and I don't have enough money for egg freezing.

>>2079
It's sad that every word you have written down rings true. I avoid other imageboards, because even on unrelated boards you get "women age like milk" comments, and it honestly hurts. Not so much because I fear getting old, it's just another sign that the only way you're valued as a woman is through looks. Nobody cares about your accomplishments, even other women.

also this

> But at least their life doesn't end with 30 and in most cases friendship between men seems more genuine than between women.

> But I just can't make myself buy into the you-go-girl-40-is-the-new-20-mentality.

Precisely! I find this trend ridiculous because it is even more demeaning to women. You can't fight time, no matter how much you try and you're constantly reminded that you're getting old and that being an old woman == irrelevant. I don't want to go back in time either, I don't want to be a housewife and at this point I'm almost certain I don't want to be in a relationship but all these current trends and the way our society is going, I can only see it going for worse. Women that try to look 20 years younger by dressing that way look ridiculous.

I feel we've just become the perfect consumers to boost sales for farmaceutical & cosmetical companies and nothing more. Life as a woman is horrible.

>>2067
ayy you gotta edit that. i'm not straight. fucking trolled.

>>2080
Agreed. I really don't want to be one of these women who try to look younger - that's worse than looking old.

>> I don't want to be a housewife and at this point I'm almost certain I don't want to be in a relationship

I don't know if I want to get married and have kids. That's the thing. It seems like I have to decide it now otherwise the chance will be gone forever. Meanwhile my male friends are dicking around, dating and focusing on their career. They aren't in a rush because they can still decide to have a family in 10-30 years.

I mean sure, being male has its downsides.
*Standards of masculinity
*More stigma when coping with psychological issues or abuse,
*Lower life expectancy
*Being expected to provide
*Having to join the military in some countries
*Less freedom regarding fashion choices

I guess the teenage years are harder for boys than for girls but then the tables turn.

But lets compare: what are the perks of being a woman?
*People treat you politely
*You might get stuff for free
*Men are willing to help you out
*Most likely you'll find someone willing to have sex with you if you're in your prime years
*Teachers and authorities might give you a free pass

All perks I can come up with depend on looks. Once they fade, you're irrelevant.

Furthermore, the expectations society has towards women aren't exactly character building - quite the opposite. Society encourages the worst traits in women.
The expectations towards men on the other hand might me tough but at least they grow as a person when they try to live up to them.

Almost all advantages of being a man have nothing to do with looks and are way more substantial:
*Solidarity: Talented young men will come across men in higher positions who will educate and mentor them
*They never have to worry about getting pregnant, childbirth or PMS
*Usually they're able to walk into a bar alone without being harassed
*They can piss wherever they want
*They were encouraged to do math and science early in life
*Doctors, mechanics and other professionals take them seriously
*They have more time to decide whether they want kids or not

>>2082
> I don't know if I want to get married and have kids. That's the thing. It seems like I have to decide it now otherwise the chance will be gone forever. Meanwhile my male friends are dicking around, dating and focusing on their career. They aren't in a rush because they can still decide to have a family in 10-30 years.

My problem exactly, but I know if I give up my career for someone, I will sacrifice my work which I love.
And good luck finding someone suitable and stable that you can count on.
I have also noticed that 2-3 years in a relationship the guy already starts taking his gf for granted. If a guy cheats it's because a man has his needs and they often blame the woman for not being good enough.

I wouldn't mind becoming a single mother, ordering a sperm online and being able to decide when to start my family provided that I'm financially stable in my early 30s. Not sure what you think of it? I don't talk about this with anyone because single mothers are targets of attacks. It's just that I'm 26 and I know that I don't really have much time to live my life like men do. There were a few articles about lot of career women opting for ordering sperm and talks about viking babies for example.

These two so much:
> Furthermore, the expectations society has towards women aren't exactly character building - quite the opposite. Society encourages the worst traits in women.

Indeed. I don't see it changing, regardless of all the social campaigns or whatever they're called nowadays. You're expected to be bubbly, talkative, friendly and in a way stupid.

> The expectations towards men on the other hand might me tough but at least they grow as a person when they try to live up to them.

My blood boils when men think that just because you get attention when you're young, that being a woman is great. Really, the only negative about being a man I can think of is being drafted. But as a woman, it's not like you're spared from being tortured and raped either.

Sometimes I have this urge to just get a small plot of land and live on my own independently far from everyone else. I'd like to have a family but then I'm not sure it's the brightest idea anymore. I love my work but something tells me I'll never be considered a pro. If you work hard as a woman and manage to climb the ladder too quickly everyone assumes that you're whoring yourself or they allowed it for the sake of company image. People sometimes make jokes about it but if I were a man noone would dare to even think of such jokes.

>>2083
I agree with almost everything you wrote.

>>Indeed. I don't see it changing, regardless of all the social campaigns or whatever they're called nowadays. You're expected to be bubbly, talkative, friendly and in a way stupid

In fact the development goes in the opposite direction. Instead of women striving for the same traits men are expected to develop - like self-reliance, courage, self-responsibility and so on - men suddenly start to envy women. Take incels for example. They're fighting for their right to be self-entitled whiny little bitches. I don't understand why they envy women for being spoiled and showered in superficial praise. They should pity them instead.

>>If you work hard as a woman and manage to climb the ladder too quickly everyone assumes that you're whoring yourself or they allowed it for the sake of company image

Exactly. Every time a man offers me a job or compliments my work I'm scared it's only because I'm a woman. Female superiors are worse, though. Even in the highest ranks they see every female employee as a threat. Or at least that's my experience in competitive fields. It might be different in other areas. I always envy my male friends who have a father-like relationship with their boss and know he has their back.

>>2084
> they're fighting for their right to be self-entitled whiny little bitches. I don't understand why they envy women for being spoiled and showered in superficial praise. They should pity them instead.

I hate imageboard autists for thinking that anyone with a bit of a brain would enjoy life as a woman. If you show audacity, initiative and anything that's considered a masculine trait, it's looked down upon. I have met women that take advantage of that, they're ok persons when you talk to them and in a way I think a lot of them play the role of an airhead bimbo even though they're far from that just because it's the easiest thing to do. Women are restricted to very few roles and all of them suck. And in fact, I think a lot of men would still prefer such type over any other.

> Exactly. Every time a man offers me a job or compliments my work I'm scared it's only because I'm a woman.

This. It's my biggest insecurity. I suppose you work in a male dominated field too? I always worry that they lower their standards just because of my gender. I also don't want to have a special treatment in any way. The moment that happens, I resign.

> Female superiors are worse, though. Even in the highest ranks they see every female employee as a threat.

Ha, I still have nightmares from my first student job and my very first boss. I never had any female bosses afterwards, but she left such scars that the year after I moved away partly so I don't have to bump into her anymore.

> I always envy my male friends who have a father-like relationship with their boss and know he has their back.

Yeah, I envy male camaraderie too. Not just in workplace. I'll go in a pop science direction and theorize it goes from the cavemen era when men hunted together and developed team spirit while women were mostly looking after kids? I don't know why there's such a huge difference between male and female friendships.

>>2085
I have two close male friends and sometimes it makes me sad that I still have to keep them at arms length in some ways despite having known them for ~7 years because I'm not their "bro" and I know I never will be (although we all do affectionately refer to one another as bros lol).

>>2083
>Really, the only negative about being a man I can think of is being draft

- 80% of the homeless are male.
- 80% of people who commit suicide are male.

Why is this? If you are on a sinking ship, they tell women and children to get on first. The woman's life has more value than a man's. A woman is valued by default in society just for being a woman, she doesn't have to work to achieve anything, there is more than enough men who will take care of all your needs just because you're a female.

This mentality isn't just found on sinking ships, it's found everywhere in society.

A man by default has no value, if a man achieves (or wasn't born into) no financial/social status in society, he is worthless, and there is no societal safety net to save him. No one will be nice to him, no one will stop him from being homeless, no girl will ever fuck him. It is a cold hard lonely life with not even close to the amount of support a female would get.

You complain about how people only value women based on looks? Well men are only valued based on their financial/social status, which is infinitely harder. Outside of very rare exceptions (severe deformities/diseases, etc.) literally all a female has to do is not be fat, practice basic hygiene, and she can cruise through life.

Your complaints about being a woman are a joke, there's some legit things like females never being able to experience true friendship as men can, but compared to what men have to deal with it's nothing.

You're wishing you were high status men, the top 20% of men, in reality if you born male you would probably be the bottom 80% of men, the /r9k/ losers that you hate.

>>2089
I think it sucks to not be valued as either gender, honestly. To only be valued for your looks and nothing else as a woman. If you're a man, society judges if you're an acceptable meal ticket and also judges your appearance as well. This is extreme black and white thinking but it's kind of the sad reality honestly. You just have to find the most value in yourself and maybe also try for a partner that genuinely loves you?

>>2089
Don't women attempt suicide more and are more likely to develop depression then men?

>>2091
men are far less likely to ever tell somebody about depression. There is a reason why you see so many "men's mental health" ads on TV these days.

grass is always greener on the other side fam

>>2089
>there's some legit things like females never being able to experience true friendship as men can

>MRA is misogynistic

why am i ever surprised?

>>2089
You're kind of missing the point. My point was that yes, (most) women have it easier and are cherished simply for existing… which stuns their personal growth.

Men have to prove themselves - which ultimately is a good thing.

i'd finally love myself probably

>>2096
>Men have to prove themselves - which ultimately is a good thing.

I find this statement wrong on so many levels

>>2095
you come quick to assume about >>2089 and resort to name calling than rather making a counter point to his statement
I'm just saying…

Make thousands of cash by presenting it to the scientific community then make a few millions on the side selling porn of my literally born and developed female body that magically has a penis.

>>2170
This anon has the right idea.

>>2080
The ironic thing about this is that a 35 year old woman is better suited to having kids than a 35 year old man. Sperm quality degrades with age while egg quality does not, and a lot of birth defects like autism affect the age of the father.

>>2195
That doesn't sound quite right…

>>2195
That really really doesn't sound right, anon.

>>2096

>>You may have convinced [women] that littleness and weakness are the very essence of beauty; and that the Supreme Being, in giving women beauty in the most supereminent degree, seemed to command them, by the powerful voice of Nature, not to cultivate the moral virtues that might chance to excite respect, and interfere with the pleasing sensations they were created to inspire. Thus confining truth, fortitude, and humanity, within the rigid pale of manly morals, they might justly argue, that to be loved, woman's high end and great distinction! they should 'learn to lisp, to totter in their walk, and nick-name God's creatures.' Never, they might repeat after you, was any man, much less a woman, rendered amiable by the force of those exalted qualities, fortitude, justice, wisdom, and truth; and thus forewarned of the sacrifice they must make to those austere, unnatural virtues, they would be authorised to turn all their attention to their persons, systematically neglecting morals to secure beauty.

(1790) Mary Wollstonecraft

227 years later this shit is still going on and feminism is about muh trans women of color

>>2203
I heard autism speaks is trash

>>2204
Then here's the link to the study that article mentioned

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1833092?resultClick=3

What every man does, jack off

Fuck every household object I could think of. I've always said that if I had a dick I would just put it in random stuff. It's not like I get the impulse to put weird things near myself but it seems different with a dick. I'd be hollowing out melons and fucking sandwiches and gloves of spaghetti all day. I'd love to try one of those crazy Tenga devices too, I guess?

If it was a long term thing I don't know what I would do. Hopefully my boyfriend wouldn't mind a bit of dick but it would get more difficult later in life if I wanted kids. I would have to learn to tuck for the clothes I wanted, random erections would be annoying.

>>2072
Yeah pretty much

>>2211
>I'd be hollowing out melons and fucking sandwiches and gloves of spaghetti all day.

Dear god anon. Why did this make my day?

>>2082
>ll perks I can come up with depend on looks. Once they fade, you're irrelevant.
That's your starting capital to build something with for when you're older.

And men who can't live up to those standards just kill themselves, hence you see less of those failures later in life.

>>2091
>Don't women attempt suicide more
Attempt, yes.
Succeed, no.
Men tend to use guns, women tend to use pills. If you OD you can get your stomach pumped, but it's hard to put your brains back in your skull.

>more likely to develop depression
Yes. Also anxiety disorders However, this might just be reporting bias, as the men that develop depression and anxiety disorder just kill themselves and don't get reported.

>>2195
>35 year old woman is better suited to having kids
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/mom%E2%80%99s-age-and-autism-risk

"They found that, on average, the risk of having a child with autism was approximately 50 percent higher for a 35-year-old mother than for a mother in her mid to late 20s."