/sty/ - pigsty

I bet they keep Unit 731 out of their history books. Weebs are disgusting.

how about what they did to korea?
recently read a book about it and god its disgusting

I don't see how war crimes of any variety are shocking or "wrong", given the situation. War isn't pretty ,and it's stupid to be a referee for what is and isn't acceptable in war.

Why was this moved?

>>2294
I'd say there's a big difference between doing what's necessary to win a war, and conducting massively inhumane experiments on civilian populations, wouldn't you?

War crimes are essentially things that aren't necessary evils.

It's in the past… like 70 years in the past. Move on

>>2297

Your probably a troll, but there's gonna be people out there who would legitimately use that argument.

The fact to that is while Nazi's have been and are being hunted down for their atrocities (rightfully so), that's not really happening for former Imperial Japanese. With over 80,000 nazis having been tried for war crimes compared to about 5,600 Imperial Japs, that means for every Imperial Jap who faced justice, fourteen nazi's also faced the same.

Largely, most eastern war criminals have gotten away with it.

This matters because even though it's over 70 years ago, true justice has not been delivered. Statistically, you'll find tons of these Japanese war criminals who are still alive to this day. They can still be brought to justice, but there's no action being done.

It also matters because all those in the highest parts of power in Japan today downplay and deny these historical facts. It's a major slap in the face to the dead and living victims of those actions.

>>2294

Same as what I said above in relation to trolling and excuses.

Most incidents committed by Imperial Japs were not rogue groups of soldiers acting on their own, but direct orders from Hirohito and others high up in the military.

These war crimes were not like the Dachau Massacre, while still fucked up, understandable why they occurred.

There's no rational reason for Imperial Soldiers to have viciously raped 50,000 Chinese women. Or to throw infants into the air and catch them with their bayonets. (aka the Nanking Massacre)

The Japanese military did not commit war crimes by accident, or commit war crimes that aren't really war crimes (I'm talking about things like hollow-point bullets quite literally being illegal in war.)

WW2 Japan instead committed acts of pure moral insanity.

>>2292

They actually do keep that subject and other related topics totally out of what is taught to students.

>>2293

Korea is sadly one of many nations in which the Imperial Government inflicted tragedies upon during WW2. Disgust is my same viewpoint also.

Most people living today weren't even alive back then…same for Germany.
I don't understand why the people today still have to feel like murderers because of something the generation before them did. Also why the victims still have to feel like victims.
Why punish the children for their (grand)parents' crimes.

>>2302
there is one thing to not punish the children for the crime of their ancestors

there is another thing to downplay the horrors and deny them

It's extremely fucked up. The US has committed its own share of war crimes that never, ever get talked about either, too, though, so…

>>2311

Agreed. The worst thing that comes to my mind when it comes to American War Crimes is the use of Agent Orange.

Vietnamese children born years and generations away from the conflict have come into the world deformed because of that chemical in awful ways.

American Vets who were exposed to the material often come down with harmful diseases caused by the experience. Vets are pretty much being fuckin' killed by Vietnam decades after leaving the jungle.

For many years, the American government did not recognize the the harmful effects of Agent Orange, even when evidence clearly showed Humans weren't meant to interact with the shit. It's a horrible moment in history.

>>2293
Honestly my sympathy for the Korean comfort women whet out of the window when I found out that Korean soldiers did exactly the same to Vietnamese women during the Vietnam war.

All Koreans are so butthurt about 'muh comfort women' but the soldiers who raped and abused Vietnamese women are hailed as heroes and have even had statues erected in their honor in SK.

>>2328
You have no sympathy for the women who were horribly raped because the men in their country did the same thing? You can't possibly feel bad for all victims of horrible rape?

You are fucking vile tbh

>>2311
So because one country denies their war crimes, that makes it okay for other countries to it too?

>>2291
Why is this thread in /sty/ This is a far more interesting topic than fucking most shit on /ot/?

>"War isn't pretty mang"
Isn't an argument neither is
>"Gawsh darn that shit happend 70 years ago git over it"

I think this is an interesting topic to discuss Japan seems to have a sqewed idea of WWII justifying their denials of the Geneva convention, torture of allied soldiers and innocents, invasion of China and the flea bombing of china, Japan fucked korea/china basically all of asia China was very much treated like a stomping ground to Japan during WWII like France a neutral nation Japan tested biological weapons on Chinese population fostering them to use against the allies. Heck they even bombed Darwin for some reason, it got scary in the pacific because of Japan. A lot of historians argue the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were an act of desperation for U.S only to end the war sooner as the remaining axis power but if they hadn't done that i'm almost certain Australasia would be turned to shreds by the demented Japs they showed no sign of stopping.

Imperial Japan was always screwy they denied signing the Geneva convention with this a shit load of war crimes were committed, many allied prisoners died in prison from the squvved conditions, torture was a must rather than being looked down upon, women raped, children butchered in Korea and China, pure evil they treated their men as disposable and shitty if they showed mercy, as though they had no point to live if they didn't kill the enemy. Out of desperation they stooped to even lower levels of suicidal, kamikaze tactics.

Japan was and always has been fucked the emperor was perhaps the most responsible for such atrocities, I recall learning how japans prime minister was contacted by FDR before Pearl harbor, with no response at all from Japan they attacked. They never negotiated, unconditional surrender was never a thing in their nations mind. Hideki Tojos execution was a scapegoat for the emperor Japan learned nothing from the suffering they caused on themselves, the allies and the pacific.

Nowadays i'm unsure how they teach this to modern children in Japan, it is difficult to sugar coat such atrocities, the Nazis had some horrible shit with concentration camps and such but at least they had Erwin Rommel and matured, veteran military leaders who had standards among other commendable qualities such as guerrilla tactics.

Moshi moshi desu ne~ (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
sugoi chemical and biological testing on China was kawaii~~

>>2329
I guess I worded it wrong, I'm not talking about the abused women in particular. English not first language etcetc.

I have no sympathy for the Koreans who are currently butthurt over not having recived an apology from the Japanese because they won't acknowledge history, since Koreans are doing exactly the same same.

>>2332
>Why is this thread in /sty/ This is a far more interesting topic than fucking most shit on /ot/?

because the new mods on this site are extra sensitive when it comes to race related topics especially if it involves blacks or asians. bunch of sjw weebs.

>>2335

If you're not a troll, then you should be ashamed of yourself. One evil does not cancel out when another horrible act is committed.

>>2332
>>2338

It's an important discussion to have. It's pretty fucked having this thread yanked over here be cause I'm pretty sure this section of the site is visited far less than /ot/ (correct me if I'm wrong.)

It's robbing individuals of a good education. If the people don't learn, then history will perish.

The thread was moved because it seemed like bait. As long as there's legitimate discussion, it can go back to /ot/.

Moved to >>>/ot/180955.