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A thread for blackpill feminism. Discuss heterosexual dynamics, female psychology, and the flaws of the feminist movement here.
Male misogyny and female pickme behaviors are caused by biology,
If you disagree with the entire premise of the thread, you have no reason to enter it. Remember that entertaining disingenuous liberal feminist debate is running around in circles
Previous thread:
>>35690 No. 39843
>>39838
No. You’re just wrong. You’re the one that can’t accept that you can feel different things during sex and refuse to see from my view or use my recommendations. You keep masturbating in a particular mental way that makes you hate yourself, right? So masturbate in a different fucking way. With a vibrator you could come in what feels like 2 seconds, no thinking or feeling required, it’s just an extreme enough physical stimulation that works like a shortcut. And again, it’s not just being receptive, it’s not just being selfless. If the woman is just laying there then I would understand what you’re saying, because she’s just receiving. But if you got on top, and you’re in control of the movement, had the right clitoral stimulation (not based on the feeling that you keep talking about over and over again that causes you to feel emotionally unfulfilled, which I don’t use or feel), it can basically feel like you’re fucking the guy. Again, especially if you act forcefully with him and part of your pleasure is being rough with him and him letting you do it.
No. 39849
>>39844Keeek the female cuckoldry is biological we all know that. Pregnancy literally destroys gray matter in women's brain, they become so dumb and male-centered they continue to mindfuck the next generation of young girls so the cycle continues. Plus the mothers of sons literally carry their DNA after pregnancy
>male fetal DNA can remain in a mother's body, sometimes for decades, through a process called microchimerism. This occurs when fetal cells, particularly from male fetuses, cross the placental barrier and enter the mother's bloodstream. While many of these cells are eliminated, some survive and integrate into the mother's tissues, including the brainWomen are literally hosting parasites
No. 39864
>>39861
Here is my advice.
Use a vibrator while standing up or sitting down while listening to music that’ll make you feel more aggressive. Orgasms are like a Pavlov conditioning tool, so by being able to easily trigger them, you can use that to recondition yourself into finding mostly anything hot, like being rougher with males, putting them as the focus, the object of attraction. You will realize submissiveness isn’t inherently tied to clitoral stimulation, you do not need a feeling of submissiveness to orgasm (no woman 100% needs to), you just need to use a strong stimulation at your clit. This will help you regain a sense of confidence in being a female if you’re able to dig yourself out of the mental pit of thinking that you need to mentally change yourself in order to orgasm, instead of only accepting that you’re a female which encompasses all that you are as a person, and that being a female is what you make of it, because you have a brain (so do other women) that should be respected. Does that mean you’re submissive if you do that? No, because being female isn’t inherently submissive. I’m not lying, I am not unaware of what you’re talking about, I’m just also aware that women being aggressive towards men and objectifying men absolutely exists. You don’t have to be socially feminine, you just have to be female. Being female does not inherently mean you have to be a mother, does not mean you have to go through with sex acts you feel uncomfortable with that are completely different from what I’m talking about. Realize how you’re not being forced into any of those things right now by external pressure which gives you more freedom to be a woman capable of making her own choices. Get over your mystic woo-woo speak that you use to cover up the holes in your small-minded, black-and-white thinking, they are not real, logical, evidence-based explanations. You don’t even know what penetration feels like or how you controlling the movement would feel. If you seriously want to see a guy’s asshole spread, that happens during the Amazon position. Communicate with anyone that you HAVE to have sex in a particular way or else you will feel mentally ill. If they do not respect or go along with that, do not have sex with that person.
No. 39871
>>39868I'm not BJ chan, she's not the only one disgusted by het sex here
>>39864>you just have to condition yourself to enjoy something you don't enjoy like a dog!I love how all straight sex positive women sound like rapists, it's so funny. Also putting anything inside a vagina is gross, but you will never get it since you don't have dysphoria and you identify with female receptive role in sex.
No. 39902
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>women admit they think their boyfriends are attracted to kids but date them anyway
>women admit all men are pedos but want to date them anyway because love and also men pay their bills
>we all know men are monsters but it's not women's fault that women are attracted to them (and act on that attraction)
>women love ugly men because it makes them feel more feminine and uwu smol and cute
Every time I go on /ot/ it's just blackpill after blackpill…
No. 39915
>>39902>we all know men are monsters but it's not women's fault that women are attracted to them (and act on that attraction)This one is grim. Paying bills, acting infantalized and bitching about ugly moids while still reluctantly fucking them is one thing but enabling these same pedofile rapeapes is next level grim. I don't much think women have attraction anyway since the majority seem to be autopedofile autosexuals, hence why women largely don't need sexual partners and can sustain themselves on fantasy. We don't speak of a
femcels because we know they don't exist. There is no such thing as truly involuntary celibate women and if they are it's temporary much like with men but the desire for sex is minimal and libido is small in women, domination is non existent. There is no real hierarchy with women, no social drive to be superior to men, it's more a social competition of the broodmares with women. A race to please other men and outcompete other women in this feat, hence the femdom sperg ITT. But ultimately women don't really need men for sexual satisfaction, they want them for social competition and companionship/kinship. They do however need male partners to reproduce and most women want to reproduce. The hierarchy of men is ruthless competition, resource hoarding and gain, nonstop reproduction and intellectual betterment to maximize resource hoarding and reproduction. It leaves men who don't fit this hierarchy to rot and die. Male animals will kill these inferior males but in society these men are criminal, failmails, mass shooters, incels etc.
Competition in women is largely pleasing men by helping them achieve betterment, breeding and caring for offspring and being sexually available only to one male to reduce the neglect and killing of the offspring and increase potential male investment by being monogamous but hiding this sexual availability to be seen as modest to please men. Women perpetuate Madonna whore dynamics because it benefits this goal to this end. These same dynamics are in animal kingdoms with delineated sex roles of male and female. Competition seems superficially more kinder in women then men but there's ruthlessness to women too. In the hierarchy of women the lesser woman will be extradited, exiled, alienated, mocked into suicide etc. left to be brutalized by males and raped, brutalized by other women, but mostly ignored shunned and left to die in sickness and disrepair. It really is as ruthless as males the only difference is it's a slow burn. The goal of most women is to reproduce with an ideal male with resources, produce and rear offspring and for that male to provide bare minimum companionship. Even if that companionship is broken by cheating and abuse its still a success in the majority of women, and success in the eyes of the female hierarchy as opposed to the male hierarchy and it beats not reproducing at all. A particularly cruel logic that spurs from this conclusion is one I've seen around this site echoed for years, where anons on this site have written in posts a woman is a loser when her blood line is dead end. Other women admit a woman or girl that is raped is a winner and accidently say the quiet part out loud behind closed doors. Grim. And people say the male social hierarchy is ruthless, at least males who fall behind are instantly killed much of time to spare their suffering or they get to reap havoc before their incarceration or demise, are made matyrs by retards, lusted by women, or simply get to get away with last minute cruelty like rape and murder etc. kek. They also get to be the inspiration of horror crime stories written by middle aged women, and get their own glorifying Netflix documentary or some true crime drama that a middle aged woman and various women will inevitably masturbate to in 10-15 years, and discuss theories on.
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>>39915It's decent posts like this one that make me continue to lurk the BP thread, even with ratfems shitting it up. Thank you nona, for taking the time to type this out. It's so depressing with how the biological reality is for females. How do other BP nonas cope? Sometimes it feels like the best option is death.
>>39927You don't even have an eloquent response. Why bother saying anything in the first place? If you aren't BP then get out this thread.
No. 39986
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>>39930Most of misogyny is based in truth you retard. Women don't have the same libido as moids do, a good chunk of females have rape fantasies, and tweak their appearances to appear younger for scrotes to be attracted to them. I wish cock loving libfems like you would get out this thread and let us BP feminists have a space of our own. You're raping us with your beliefs right now. If you want to "dominate" a moid by being penetrated (inherently submissive) and then put it all the work with no satisfaction back other than getting off on his own pleasure, be my guest.
No. 39991
>>39986The study on rape fantasies in women included rape
victims, not even a healthy population, I do not have rape fantasies because it isn't an inherent part of being a woman, you don't get off to rape and see it as horrible as well, the reason why they make themselves younger is because of societal conditioning making themselves believe their only value is their appearance. Don't tell me you haven't had to unlearn things like this that get reinforced to you by the media like tranny ideology. You're inherently submissive, so calm down already. It's our biological urge and main motivation (because as females, we are all one-dimensional beings with stupid little woman brains driving us) to love dick and compete with other females over it, constantly talking about sex one way or another must be you satiating your female urges right? Of course you ignore every other point I've made just to circle back to "uhhdurr dick go in so yuo submisive, yuor vagina cant feel anythng", actually just rinsing and repeating the shit that came out of BJ-chan's mouth (she loves eating shit). You're repeating her mantras.. like a cult follower. Isn't that weird to you? You're not even thinking for yourself. You're NLOG, you're like Lain, all those other bitches only think about dick all day while you're a bitch that thinks about more than dick, you think about females thinking about dick!
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>>39999
The guy's dick is like a dildo that jerks off your insides for you. Clitoral orgasms still cause vaginal spasms, they're not isolated from the rest of your body. Keep coping. Men are made to get choked and slapped during sex, they're physically stronger to withstand more abuse better.
No. 40017
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i hate this blank, doe eyed expression that grown women make in pictures. why do you want to come across this way? it makes women look dumb.
No. 40023
>>40012In the end, everyone wants the same, i've noticed. A partner who validates, cherishes, loves and almost worships us; who labors for our sake and recudes our workload, a person who understands us and does emotional and cheering labor for us, who seeks our pleasure more or even in spite of their own. A person who is attractive in our terms, who works for our aproval and loves inconditionally and loyally until their death. That is the ideal partner to all of us, male or female. It is just that moids have more power to demand something closer to their ideal than women can enforce on the moids. Sadly, power is a zero sum game, so as long as moids have more power; they will demand our submission. Perhaps one day in the future women can turn the tide, but most of us will be dead by then.
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I think this is the femdom retard who posts here keeeeek
No. 40029
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>>40028Sperging about le femdom cope again, while obsessing over male celebrities, pathetic
No. 40036
>>40028LMFAO!!!! BEN. His name is Ben.
She’s such an interesting little critter. New personalityfag drop
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>>40121This is a phenomenon I see happen a lot. Women who are perfectly fine with having a leeching moid (a boyfriend or husband) are the ones screaming about how much they "hate all men." I wonder why this happens so much. How can these cock lovers not see their own cognitive dissonance when saying, "kill all men" yet spread their legs for one? And the thing is they don't even try to stop having sex with their scrote, because they know when they do it'll be proven to them that he's only there for sex kek. They say they aren't submissive but keep on engaging in these submissive acts (sex, pregnancy, child rearing) they know subconsciously that's all the male is there for…
>>39991I know you were meant to be mocking in your statements, but it's funny what you were saying is true. Yes, women do compete with others for dick and worship it. How do you not see this in your daily life? Oh wait, it's because you're retarded ratfem constantly huffing "maledom" copium kek. Also, I've never claimed to be NLOG, all I did was post a character. Calm down.
>>40002>Durrr men actually have more muscle mass to withstand pain!! W-what? No of course it's not for dominating the weaker sex! Biology is sexist okay!!! Women aren't inherently submissive, look at all these naturally occurring femdom rates! Wait… why's it zero? No. 40174
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>>40173
>And I don't believe being a mother is a submissive act, actually, because that's a fucking weird way to see your own mother, like she only chose to become a parent as part of a fetish
Have you ever heard of this thing called a breeding fetish? The most popular kind to have because the whole reason of any kind of species living is to reproduce.. Anyway, being a mother is submissive. Every single thing about it is. The "best" mothers are the ones that put their children above all. You don't see that same standard for moids. Also, what isn't submissive about carrying around a parasite inside of you for 9 months, having it tear out of you, and then being its food. (Breastfeeding)
> I don't see only getting into relationships and having families as enough to qualify as "agreeing to their own slavery."
It's unfortunate that you're so blind, but what else should I expect from a ratfem?
>>40161
It's disgusting how she's showing off her subordinance. I don't understand how these females can live with themselves while degrading their image for moids.
>>40144
When will you dick-worshipping whores leave this thread? It's for BP feminists only jfc.
No. 40175
>>40174Honestly you sound like a male, pregnancy and motherhood are not submission, they're love and devotion (when acutally sought after and honestly desired) motherhood can empower you, it can make you into a protector. What you're talking about is women who give in, those who just follow the lifescript without considering what their own wants are for their lives. I do believe being a mother makes you more likely to fall into systems of oppression, but motherhood is only submission in specific circumstances.
Also mothering isn't just about being mommy to your own children, as I've gotten older I've taken on the role of mentor for younger women and I've also felt other women take that role for me. Mothering is about nurture, love, protection and education, it's about supporting other women and girls and being supported by them as well. Women are capable of such kindness and empathy.
> what isn't submissive about carrying around a parasite inside of you for 9 months, having it tear out of you, and then being its food. (Breastfeeding)These are violently scrotoid talking points. If you truly are a woman then you're filled to the brim with internalized misogyny.
No. 40196
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this is the root of heterosexuality
No. 40198
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>>40196If you were slapping and choking this guy during sex, why would you be completely incapable of feeling any power over him or consuming the visuals of his body? Why can't a receptive vagina focus on using his body like a dildo? If what you're always talking about is barely imperceptible to most people to the point that people who read your posts just see it as indecipherable and schizo, isn't it basically like it doesn't even exist, meaning they're able to express themselves differently just because they don't give a shit about what you're always reeing about? You also ree about how you get nauseous from orgasms. I never get nauseous from orgasms. Another example of how something applies more to you and your perspective than
all of womankind. You're like a tranny that autistically needs everything to be sorted into neat little boxes. If you like the color blue, have short hair, and unconventional taste in men, you must be a man in a woman's body! That was the entire purpose of the tranny movement. Anyone who naturally strayed away from traditional gender roles couldn't process that they could just be a female who's different. It was a social reaction to a social problem. Now there are women mutilating themselves pointlessly because they think if they're a person with feelings and not just a "woman" (their limited view of women created through exposure to media portrayals of women
cartoons. anime. instead of just being born a female encompassing everything that they are, everything), they have to hop onto the social trend of labeling themselves they/them demisexual fakebois. There's so much evidence of this in the TiF threads that you could trawl through but you won't because you can't handle anything contradicting your view of tEh RoOT Of WAhmEn, which is just another self-limiting belief basically agreeing and becoming one with the tradwhores you hate by seeing yourself that way as a female. You've always been a female. You cannot reject your female body, which again, encompasses
EVERY bit of your personality and mentalities, unless you kill yourself. You're just another side of the same coin as the women you keep posting. All you do is nod along to them, then join them on their knees as a female that can't stop sucking off the Superior Dick and calling herself a submissive whore meant for being used, just like in porn. You're depraved.
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>>40234
When are you going to kill yourself? Autism is such a disease that you think this is proof of something inherent about women when there are men who would do this if you paid them 2 dollars and probably get off on that. There are straight men who would shove dildos up their ass for female attention. The average woman isn't posting ahegao porn. Do I do that? No. Does any female I know in my immediate or extended family do that? No. You are such a fucking sped. You are not enlightened for rotting and looking at porn all day, kill yourself already, you are actually subhuman trash that will never contribute anything of worth if all your life amounts to is looking at porn, giving yourself a humiliation kink, then publicly rubbing yourself everyday and crying out how much of a submissive whore you are.(report and ignore retard)
No. 40239
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>>40175>Honestly you sound like a male, pregnancy and motherhood are not submission, they're love and devotionYou bitches always scrotefoil when another woman doesn't have the same opinion as you. This is the BP thread what are you expecting ratfem-chan? Also, holy copium. I don't know how you don't see motherhood as submissive. Why do you think males don't want to be mothers except when it's a fetish? (ex. troons) It's because they see it as below them. Being a mother is akin to slave work.
>Also mothering isn't just about being mommy to your own children, as I've gotten older I've taken on the role of mentor for younger women and I've also felt other women take that role for me. No one asked for your own personal blog. I'm sure you're just a Mother Teresa to all women which is why you're on the BP thread terrorizing them.
>These are violently scrotoid talking points. If you truly are a woman then you're filled to the brim with internalized misogyny.>Just adding a Lain image alongside all your shit takes out you as a trannyKek which is it? Am I a moid or tranny? Can you really not fathom another female making these talking points? Do you need me to post my genitals on here to prove I'm not a moid? Also, you seething at the Lain pics only makes me keep using them kek. Keep thinking I'm a troon to avoid the truth that women are inherently submissive.
>>40198>If you were slapping and choking this guy during sexSo you admit this is naturally the woman's position in sex kek? You femdom retards are so delusional you don't realize the major self own you're making. If the entire purpose is role reversal then the moid is just getting the feminine position which is submissive. I encourage you to entertain this thought, even if it's just for a second. The whole world makes a lot more sense once you take the BP.
No. 40240
>>40239Because men cannot physically become mothers. It would be weird to want a function only women are capable of. Like if I said I wish I had the function of ejaculating ropes of semen out of my urethra or having a prostate in my asshole you'd find that strange and think it's possibly a fetish. You are genuinely retarded if you're simplifying being a mother and mothers in general as submissive subby sub whores, what the fuck is wrong with you? Genuinely ask yourself what is wrong with you? And that was probably her first post itt schizo. Why don't you and your master Blowjob-Pig-Cocksucker-chan go to fucking Reddit already and stop terrorizing the thread when no one ever wanted either of you here in the first place, constantly terrorizing this thread with uncensored ahegao porn and other stupid schizobabble bullshit about the clitoris being unfulfilling and other nonsense? How the fuck is being choked and slapped the natural position of women in sex you gigantic retard, please. Please. Please fucking kill yourself. If a woman wants to dominate a man she could choke and slap him. Being choked and slapped isn't in any way inherently the woman's position you massive faggot. Put down the little anime girl pictures and pick up a gun, start sucking off the barrel like the inherently submissive cocksucking whore you instinctually are as a female, then pull the
trigger.
(a-logging) No. 40318
>>40316BJ-chan upholds the heteropatriarchy by getting fucked on cam by BBC. When she's done farting out her humiliation kink on Reddit and here, she works for pennies on Pornhub bending over for hundreds of Tyrones. You can find BJ-chan under the Snowbunny category, she's known for regularly taking giant elephant BBCs in every one of her holes. Recently she filmed a vid of herself bobbing for apples, warming up to stuff 5 BBCs in her mouth of course, while getting double penetrated by two hulking giant men with monstrously huge cocks grunting and huffing from above her fragile feminine snow-white flesh, the focus switching between her ass, shaped like a pig's, getting demolished and brutally pounded (you can hear her shrieking and squealing like a happy oinking pig whore, clearly enjoying them roughly slapping into her), and her gasping out for breath before diving right back in to wrap her moist lips around another apple, showing off to the camera the prize she worked so hard to retrieve while enduring the harsh treatment of her vulnerable orifices, complete with an ahegao face.
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>>40266
>Its socialization i swear! It happened to me too!
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BJ-chan's fellow autists. Lmfao.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 40379
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Poor BJ-chan failing to comprehend how the nerves being spaced out would make it less powerful, lol. Here's another fun fact from one of her mentally challenged orbiters: since we women have less testosterone, that means we enjoy sex less? Very fascinating and scientific, thank you random retard from Reddit.(baiting personalityfags)
No. 40384
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Posting this for bluepilled tourists, since they need some truthpills
No. 40387
>>40384Yup, those bitches need to go back in the kitchen instead of having rights or being able to get an education and fend for themselves. How dare those traitorous whores be in relationships, truly terrible, only some bitches deserve to have rights
they were affected by misogyny regardless. And then some prison planet spirituality shit to top it all off, wonderful and not pretentious at all.
No. 40388
>>40385If it's not tradwhores condescendingly describing what a ~feminine energy~ is, it's tumblrinas writing rants about how only some women deserve rights. She's correct about one thing, there's always other people who are going to try and drag you in with them. Both of them
want women to be punished. It's all so tiresome.
No. 40389
>>40387One day you will grow up and understand, maybe
Also, yes, having relationships with pedophiles and rapists is evil and women should be judged for it
No. 40393
>>40391You have more in common with a tradthot than me, you'll go on spergs about the inherent femininity of women, the exact same as them.
>>40392Because no one would ever bait and troll on an imageboard.
No. 40400
>>40396Why ah why, virgins like me know more about male nature than the women who actively fuck them, share their resources with them, give them kids, and live with them for DECADES ah, why they never try to read statistics, data, books, or even plain internet forums where women share their fucked up experiences with men, in order to better understand the sex the supposedly "love", I wonder… and then they act surprised when it turns out their husband is fucking their golden retriever, or jerks off to teen porn, or installed a camera in the shower to watch their underage daughter naked, oh I wonder why they prefer to stay deliciously oblivious until it's too late…
No. 40404
>>40400They just do not believe all men are pedophiles. That's it. They don't agree with you. If their boyfie really is inherently a pedophile, they don't see that, they don't to get into a relationship with a man because they want to be with a pedophile. They just do not believe that. Are you the motherless anon? If you actually had a mother, you would understand. My mother would adamantly, genuinely refuse that my dad's a pedophile, because he shows zero indication of that. They see it as ludicrous to even suggest that. It's not because there's some trooth hidden deep away from our awareness that they're ignoring and trying to shelter from other people… They just do not see it the same way as you. It's simple. And of course you have to blame women for the ways men destroy their lives, destroy their self-esteem, for being terrible assholes. Not every women spends basically every waking moment looking at those stats, you can't comprehend that women do not enter the same spaces as you. Unlike you, they probably spend more time away from the computer, that's one thing. In combo with having male friends, actually socializing with others instead of being antisocial. Now your master BJ-pig-chan will barge in to say as soon as you socialize with others, you instantly become a dicksucking whore.. except for the women who have lives who simply just do not do it because they would rather not. No, but all women are actually evil pedo and rapist fuckers, they're not human beings capable of being rational with deeper experiences than that, as sentient people..
No. 40408
>>40405>>40406I forgot to add, the ONLY based women I met irl were the older women who either divorced or their husbands died. They told me to never marry because men are evil. True wisdom coming from 60 year old, 70 year old women. They themselves regret wasting their youth on men.
And you are the one who supports the status quo. Yeah women have "rights". And guess what; sex trafficking is the biggest it ever was. Normie women always get their "rights" at the expense of the women who live in the "gutter". Nothing will ever actually change as long as women want to share their lives with men. For women who still want to breed even raising kids comunally with other mothers while eliminating men from their lives would've been better from what we have today. And of course abort most male fetuses and only leave a small group of men alive. That's for the women who still want to breed of course, because from my perspective this society shouldn't have even existed in the first place and it would be better for humanity to die out
>>40407Stop using third world countries as a way to defend normie women who live in western countries and give their lives and resources to men, it's pathetic.
No. 40409
>>40408Your rights include not having your clit mutilated against your will, not being forced into an arranged marriage, a legal system that won't punish those based women for divorcing their husbands, being able to have your own bank account and survive while you're single because you're able to get an education and work, being able to sit on your ass and argue about how women have no rights and no progress has been made for women's rights while you leech off your parents with no responsibility or however it is you make your living, the list goes on. Third world countries are an example of how the mystical woo-woo force of the world isn't only choosing to punish women who get into relationships, like the Tumblrina you were praising was saying, but single women too. If those women you're talking about had the hindsight and were more mentally prepared, pressured to put themselves first instead of being negged into staying with rotten losers so they could've gotten out sooner, then they could've been like you and chosen to have stayed single or leave the loser for a better guy. But because they never got those messages, definitely not in the same way you were exposed to them, they just didn't know and suffered because of that. But you would rather put women down and call them evil whores or want them to settle for harmful relationships.
No. 40412
>>40409>while you leech off your parents with no responsibility or however it is you make your livingKek I've been working since a young age, I love all that projection
>definitely not in the same way you were exposed to them The thing is, I was not "exposed" to them. I had those thoughts as a child, before I even got access to the internet. As a child I always felt it on an instinctual level, that men are evil and cannot be trusted (despite not being abused), that the institution of family should not exist, I observed that both adult women and girls are obsessed with getting male attention and I could never understand why, I was constantly punisher for not absorbing the "groupthink" and constantly questioning male and female dynamics in a loud manner and disrespecting men in my family "for no reason", I was ridiculed for rejecting men etc. Some people are more aware than others. My core beliefs were formed through observation and instinct, and for a long time I felt totally alone in this. Discovering women (online) whose thought process was similar to mine was a huge relief, because as a child/early teen I felt as if I was alone in this world. It is not my job to sacrifice even more of myself to help those who don't even want help. Women want men to treat them better, but you and I both know most of them STILL want to be with men. And it will NEVER change. And the rape and abuse of girls and women will always continue - it will only change its form. Giving us rights didn't change the fact that the most common cause of death for pregnant women is being murdered by a scrote she knows. Thousands of years and rape still exists and porn gets more and more vile, worse than it ever was, bdsm gets normalized and women actively participate in it (oh poor
victims of socialization). Giving us rights didn't change any essential truths about men and women.
No. 40413
>>40412You don't have to sacrifice yourself for those women. The point is, when you're advocating for yourself, it's also for the benefit of other women, because ideally it's shit that helps all of you. A misogynistic system wouldn't give you a chance, wouldn't give a shit if you instinctively hated men. It would've forced you to be in a relationship with one, even worse than what you've already had to tolerate because of the misguided people around you. Infinitely worse. For some women, they actually have made changes to improve their own lives once they get over the group-think they may be more susceptible to than you were, like the women who have dated who just swear off relationships altogether. Having rights absolutely makes a difference.. I feel like it's extremely retarded to say otherwise. Like, you have the choice to not participate because you have rights. And I would want those men to be punished by the legal system so they don't just start going on murder rampages and dragging innocent women into their hatred, like in India where conditions are hellishly worse. It absolutely does make a difference, that's why I wouldn't live there. I absolutely agree that porn is disgusting and vile, and that we should do everything possible to advocate against it. I want there to be a change, so I'm not going to say all of us women deserve having to tolerate the porn industry and it getting worse because women are also evil harlots that get into relationships. Before you would've said, "women are evil harlots, so they don't deserve the right to vote." Yet it was still possible to accomplish even if that doesn't fit in with your view of being pure enough to deserve better.
No. 40414
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>>40413>It would've forced you to be in a relationship with oneThe thing is, I think this system that used to force women into things wouldn't have even existed in the first place if women weren't complicit to a certain degree at the start of it. Our ways of seeing are fundamentally different and I don't believe there is a chance to find agreement or win over another.
Still, even if we disagree on the root of the problem, I don't know how can you defend the things that western women still do today, in the current year. The simple "they don't know better" is not enough of an argument anymore, with the access to knowledge we have today. If women are not dumb, they have eyes and ears and they see what's going on around them, and thanks to the internet they can communicate with other women and find many resources, read about history etc. But they still continue to date men, breed with them, give birth to sons (then expect other women to take care of their kids so they can do their nails - that's female "bonding"), then cry when shit hits the fan, and while it's true some women choose celibacy even without being BP, the majority of women still want to be with men and believe men can be changed. There's just no excuse and I will not accept any line of defense for them.
No. 40415
>>40414But isn't BP ideology always putting the focus on how biology created an unfair disadvantage? How complicit were they if they were also being forced by unfair circumstances? You're saying you could understand being unaware if you don't have access to the right resources. Social media just did not exist back then, just the group-think you experienced. You're posting a screenshot of some uppity retard whose dumb whining got spread around because of reactionary social media and that's why you think women in relationships don't deserve to have rights? Your example of shit hitting the fan is men installing cameras into their underage daughter's bathroom. I'm just speaking from personal experience, but never in my wildest dreams would I expect to have to go through that because of my family. There's possibly more nuance involved than you think, and not everything is because of the fault of women being stupid idiotic whores like how you would call them. Are some of them gullible, and do they get hurt because of that? Yes, but I don't want to punish them even worse. I want them to get the fuck out of the relationship, especially if there's kids involved so they don't have to suffer because of what's happening between the parents, and then they can move on with their lives
which women wouldn't be able to do if they weren't even allowed to divorce. But I also acknowledge there are some people who cannot be reasoned with, who no matter how much you try to reason with them, they'll continue to fuck up their own lives, and I agree that you shouldn't have to sacrifice yourself or feel responsible for that type of person. Again, I just do not think it's as simple as everything being women's fault, thus they deserve to be punished instead of focusing on progress.
No. 40465
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Anyone else realize that they themselves engage in BP-ing behavior? Like engaging with moids, I know why they're interacting with me (only for sex) and yet I still do it. It's like a form of self-harm really. I'm a female so therefore I deserve to degrade myself with males. It makes me so suicidal too…
No. 40467
>>40465it sounds like you're getting off on it then calling it self harm (which is also done because it releases pent up feelings of aggression instead of sexual frustration). And then you feel shit and suicidal because what you really want to is to interact with men while enjoying yourself without having to making it about degradation and your existence as a female.
why don't you just have sex with moids if that's what you want to do and you're going to construct elaborate rituals and justifications to allow you to interact with them anyway?
like how is this behaviour BP if you actually hated it you would stop
No. 40488
Radical feminism has always been a scam, yes you heard that right even the 2nd wave was useless.
Radical feminism did not just change overnight and turn into shit once it reached the 3rd or 4th wave, that's just wishful thinking clouded by nostalgia and not being familiar with that era, it has always been that way because it was built on a weak foundation, inconsistencies, logical fallacies and degeneracy.
The earlier iterations of radical feminism included illogical fallacies such as rallying against porn which even Dworkin engaged in (which they were unsuccessful at and disbanded shortly after and a big part of that was due to their collaboration with conservatives which radfems have a pattern of doing and are still doing to this day, which turned alot of normies off from what they had to say when they were aligning with hardcore Christians spreading satanic panic) while at the same time those same radfems were defending pedophilia and incest (which even Dworkin defended) because they were part of the post-modern left-wing ''sexual liberation'' academia crowd which was big at that time. Unfortunately they and all the other academics at the time were quite successful at this and it lead to quite alot of fucked up ''artistic'' pedo media, pedo experiments and victims at that time, isn't that ironic.
Radical feminists even the 2nd wave were largely unsuccessful at almost everything they did and all of their little activist groups or matriarchy 4B communes would all disband after like 5 years max kek and they would get into fights or would end up ideology hopping.
The only power they had was further spreading muh-intellectual pedo garbage, spreading highly pompous academia garbage that tries to blame everything on socialization and the boogeyman aka patriarchy and how pickmes are poor uwu victims who don't know better and should never be held accountable for their actions. Also 2nd wave radfems unironically birthed both libfems and current radfems and i see certain qualities of 2nd wave radical feminism in both of these movements and that's the extreme belief of socialization where they believe it's 100% all socialization and that men can be saved if you just steer them on the right path, that the reason men are misogynistic is because they get brainwashed by ideologies and that they can be saved, that their behavior is due to conditioning and socialization, same goes for the pickme stuff. 2nd wave feminists were quite the believers of socialization and everything being a social construct that now you have their two children (libfems and current radfems) who have taken on these qualities with the libfems taking in the social construct and socialization and the radfems taking in the socialization.
They engaged in political lesbianism with it's most prominent one being Julie Bindel who thinks sexuality is a choice (straight women who call themselves lesbian for political/activist reasons, straight women who pretend to be lesbians for political reasons) while at the same time hating on actual lesbians.
Political lesbianism ended up becoming one of the strongest characteristics of radical feminism considering it ended up getting passed down to both 3rd wave and 4th wave (the one we are in now) radical feminism and it's still being practiced as strongly as ever by straight radfem women who call themselves lesbians to get away with their nlog behavior while roleplaying a caricature of a lesbian.
3rd/4th wave is the same while it may have a different appearance it still serves the same goals (the goals being hidden agendas) and illogical fallacies as the earlier versions. Now radfems have fully traded their left wing pedos for right wing pedos (circa when radfems were hyping up Matt Walsh just because he made that documentary hating on trannies even though he is a pedo misogynist right-winger who has openly admitted attraction to underage girls). Or their batshit insane discussion on radblr circa 2018-19 where they were saying it's not pedophilia if only the woman is the perpetrator.
The biggest illogical fallacy of this version is their belief in socialization while at the same time weaponizing bio essentialism against troons and only then pretending to care about biology when it comes to that. You see my retarded radfems you can't have your cake and eat it too, you either fully believe in socialization or you don't, you don't get to cherry pick when it suits you. It comes of extremely hypocritical to go ''no my nigel is a good amazing men and when i have a boy i will just socially condition him to not be misogynist, btw pickmes are just socially conditioned so always forgive them'' while at the same time going ''ugh those hulking male tim troons they ooze out male biology the biology of sex predator you will never be a woman you think socialization can help?? well you can't give birth like me who is mother goddess about to pop out my baby and be a boymom while you cope and dilate''. Like…. it's a ideologically bipolar movement that can't get its facts straight and relies on reactionaries , bippies, gullible idiots, autistics and orbiter gc moids to keep it going and spread its agenda.
When the biggest radfem accounts are bippies and their autistic pets, you know a movement is not serious and is just a roleplay or phase for the mentally unstable, outcasts, autists, and the borderlines who hide their male lust behind misandry like Phemoid who unfortunately seems quite known in the radfem circles and has a pedo husband and is a e-thot (why do other radfems keep making the worst people ever, known and popular in which they end up becoming representatives of radfems)
Just like their previous version, this batch of radfems are still unsuccessful failures who fail at anything that's supposed to liberate women they can't group for shit and are only good for furthering goals that are for the benefit of moids, that is their only talent and success. Dare i say this version may be even more worthless, psychotic and reductive than the previous ones. Atleast the earlier one still had some good works despite their cow behavior…..but this one??? The only thing the current radfems will be known about is talking about troons, having straight women who get outed for having a husband and children while pretending to be lesbians online, incessant backstabbing and gossiping of each other, having nazis marching with them and having a literal self-proclaimed nazi at a 'let women speak' rally, being tradthots, the current radfem leaders and well known ones being known as backstabbing snakes who became tradthot grifters like Meghan Murphy and Anna Slatz, or the ones like Terri who just completely leave the movement and started dating predators moids despite calling themselves a lesbian for a decade before that because it was all a phase to them, being the prime example of cult indoctrination aka the terf-to-tradthot pipeline and the amount of american radfems who seemed to have voted for Trump just to spite troons or the ones who were silent when roe wade got overturned yes i still remember how shockingly silent it was in radfem communities or how JK Rowling seems glued to her phone didn't seem to bother tweeting anything about it when it got overturned. Although not that surprising from JK since she is one of the many women who seems to only cares about women's issues when it comes to troons, That's why she hired a man that created revenge porn of his wife, supported abusers like johnny deep and marilyn manson and was friends with a anti-abortion activist. Seems like for alot of these women if you'r issues are not troon related or if you are not a abusive borderline woman who changes her sexualities every weekend and abuses women then they don't give a fuck about it.
Also a weird thing i noticed about radical feminism (and all political or activist movements in general) is how neurotic they act and how bipolar they are in their emotions and engage in high-school tier hierarchies, cliques,bullying and rage filled matches towards other women (they never have that energy for men except if that man is a troon), they can only think in white and black thinking, which is typical of cult thinking. Radfems have more in common with troons than they think. Your average keyboard warrior radfem has done absolutely nothing for feminism or female liberation other than engaging in retarded slapfights online on whether ''women who wear makeup are sluts'' ''troons troons troons'' ''libfems are worse than rightwingers'' ''my moid is a good man he is not like those other man'' ''i hate black/hispanic/brown people….oh wait im only talking about the men i promiseeee~ i may be using the language that's insulting to the women too but i promise i would never insult you~~~'' ''yeah i posted a rage filled paragraph towards women that looks like something a bitter incel wrote but i promise im a radfem and if you disagree then i will make up random things to accuse you over like now im going to call you lesbophobic''.
Libfems (which are also mess and made to serve men just like all feminism) have still done more for feminism and helping women than current radfems. The normalization of calling out rape, all those anti-rape campaigns, the Me Too movement and popularizing women to come out and speak out against abuse that was happening in the mid to late 2010's, that was all done by libfems. Many women shelters and orgs are owned by libfems too. Also atleast libfems sometimes organize and protest from time to time even if that gets them nowhere meanwhile the only time i see radfems go to any protest its the gender critical ones that are about anti-troons and that's it.
No. 40489
>>40488To the ones who are questioning radical feminism or feminism as a whole, it's basically a lie built upon a lie. There is no ''feminism'' it's just a nlog movement with grifters, shady people, BPD abusers and their goal is to push hidden agendas and unironically steer women off of female liberation even more. That's why all feminist movements metaphorically suck off men whether that be libfems and their moids in dresses or radfems and their moids wearing a cross. If real feminism were to exist it wouldn't revolve around dumb shit like calling women hoes for wearing makeup, defending
abusive moids if they are disabled/
poc or doing the opposite and only hating on disabled/troon/
poc moids while defending
abusive privileged scrotes, all feminism is a scam.
Actual feminism can never exist because they all deny biology and how it impacts human behavior and ignore that no matter how well you raise a moid he can still turn into a misogynist and predator once he hits puberty due to the effects of biology, same goes for pickmeism and how feminism seeks to defend female abusers who abuse other women and call those women ''poor misguided brainwashed
victims'' when in reality those pickmes know what they are doing and they are not some stupid children who need to have something explained to them, they are acting out their intra-sexual competition which is biological. When you look at the way women behave towards women or the way men behave towards women, it's very animal behavior. Men hate women and consider them weak and other them the same way siblings other it's weaker siblings in the animal world or they see them as a host to extract resources from such as labor and birth, with women they fight each other the same way male animals fight so they can get the chance to mate with a man who will pick them (after seeing how well she destroyed the lives of any woman who dared to look at him and many times this is metaphorical, women are destroying other women for a metaphorical man that doesn't even exist. Almost all female on female bullying is intra-sexual competition, even if it doesn't look that way or you're in a female only community, they still only target and brutally bully women as a way to score some social points and look good which is rooted in intra-sexual competition.
Also women are cucks biologically speaking due to the fact that men are polygamous in nature and just want to spread their seed because men are biological sluts and that's why men cheat even if they ''love'' their partner, making women cucks by nature. This is why cuck is used as a insult for men and not for women, because being a cuck as a man is insulting since it's not natural but being a cuck as a woman is natural hence all the women and their emotionally or physically cheating husbands/boyfriends who also replace them like they replace socks as soon as their wife becomes terminally ill. But that's a discussion for another time and i realized i went offtopic on my main post which was supposed to be about radfems but i had to mention it since a big part of intra-sexual competition among women actually comes from the fact that they don't want to admit the fact that 99% of men can never be loyal or faithful and don't want to accept his polygamous nature so due to that they become paranoid and hyper-competitive around other women out of fear that they may take her man because subconsciously she knows that her man biologically is not loyal or monogamous. So there is a clash between female and male biology with both of them wanting different things which leads to both men and women taking their anger out on women due to this huge biological clash which isn't as common in other animals. Also to add the existence of monogamy in humans was the first ever incel appeasement that high-ranking men have done to the dysgenic, low ranking or incel men to keep them from lashing out less. It was the first existence of ''state mandated bride'' for men who are too ugly in looks, personality, health and wealth that a woman doesn't want to be picked by them, they didn't do this out of loyalty or wanting a lifelong partner but because these men were so worthless that they couldn't pull anyone so they had to give them a tribe mandated bride and then brainwash society on how women need to marry a man and be loyal to him forever and dedicate her whole life and if he dies she needs to die too (look it up this used to happen in the past in many cultures with cultures forcing the women to kill themselves after their husband dies.)
Men are bio sluts and pump and dumpers with fast fleeting feelings that's why men are so bitter in their marriages and constantly complain about their wives and make jokes about how much they hate them and nitpick them while on the side trying to cheat on them and spamming hearts and rose emojis in the comments of instagram hoes.
The female empathy, motherhood, nurturing capabilities that feminists constantly keep talking about also shows how feminism is a scam and meant to benefit men, no there is no sisterhood and there never will be. You know who else is obsessed with talking about how nurturing, motherly, empathetic women are? Right-wingers, trads, people who want the
victim to forgive their abuser, grifters, people who want you to continue staying at the bottom of the hierarchy, people who view women as incubators etc.
Honestly while they say this i think even they know this is not true deep inside, and the biggest proof of this ''muh women mother and nurture empath'' stuff is factually untrue on every level considering how many times a woman's first hater will be her own mother and if it's not her mother then it will be another female authority in her life. There is a distinct way women treat female and male children and if women were these so called motherly, nurturing creatures that people say they are maybe they would let aside their intra-sexual competition for a moment and let her ''motherly'' instincts take over by treating both children equally instead that doesn't happen and many women who have male and female children are known for putting their male children above the female ones or treating her daughter like competition and being her biggest hater. This is a well documented thing that has been happening for thousands of years and every culture and ethnicity has engaged in this including even tribes who would let their daughters starve so that the sons can have all the food.
Either way this is all biological, and code/prompt based, if you react defensively to whatever i said that's just your cognitive dissonance acting up and your biological prompts. Although i already know the trolls who frequent this thread (i know some of you and was in multiple servers with you a couple of years ago, some of you are way too old for this behavior, honestly dox worthy) or BJ chan are already typing in a reply as we speak.
Also just to say one more thing before i end this long post i consider BJ-chan to be on the same level as those radfems i mentioned, that's because BJ chan engages in black and white thinking, oddly seems very competitive towards other women despite claiming to be so different from them like those ED account women she stalks and gossips about, only talks about dicksucking the same way radfems only talk about troons and ignore everything else, seems neurotic, hysterical, bipolar (just like radfems who don't seem mentally stable at all) and suffers from grandeur of delusions.
The biggest step to BP for me is admitting that you also have that biology and can be controlled by that biology at any time yet she writes these rage filled schizo narcistic babbles where she is so ~different~ which is typical radfem nlog behaviour, no you are not different some people are controlled by their biology to a lesser degree and some to a higher but it still doesn't change the fact that ALL of us are still controlled by it. We are more similar with machines, ai and programs, our dna, hormones, chromosomes, organs etc they all behave like prompts and codes but we are more like legacy complicated machines where changing one code can lead to a error or breaking down a machine which is why significant evolution is so slow. Every single thing or behavior you see in the human world both bad and good was created for two things survival or procreation. Humans just have complex survival and procreation behavior and methods compared to animals who have simpler ones, that's the difference. We are just more complex biological machines. We come from multi-cells that were battling for survival like their life depends on it and killing other organisms who also came from single cell organisms who were battling other cells like their life depends on it. So why be surprised at something as simple like that when evolutionary we came from survival and battles and will continue with that, misogyny and other forms of hatred are just a biological complex variation of the survival of the fittest, resource hording, tribalism, pro-creation. Living organisms do what they think is best for pro-creation or survival even if its morally evil, leads to suffering or dysgenic.
No. 40512
As per
>>40311 we have locked the thread due to your inability to stop responding to the cocksucker sperg. You have been told time and time again to report and ignore ban evaders and personalityfags and were warned that we would lock this thread if you did not stop.