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No. 105136
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Reposting this from the old thread because it deserves preservation.
No. 105147
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>>104975>Can any anons answer my question in regards to the CCP's censorship of BL? I specifically want to know how the Untamed was even released and adapted without the author being sent to one of those re-education camps.Some people actually spread a rumor that she's in prison but it's fake. Most BL authors stay anonymous, she never shows her face, her only interviews are via audio and the novels are released on private blogs, meaning she isn't spreading her fujo propaganda on public sites lol
I honestly think that The Untamed was just super lucky. I guess it helped that they mentioned that they're bestest friends a couple times (and there are some blokes who enjoyed it and now unironically try to make themselves believe that they're really just bros kek), though you can see in the BTS that they did refer to them as boyfriends meaning the actors know what they're supposed to portray. And with that series being such a big success (the actors went from no names to the best selling in entire China thanks to only that) of course other BL works are to be adapted as well.
However I read that censorship got even stricter last year, e.g. zombies are no longer allowed (because zombies are dead humans and the dead are to be respected) and seeing as many chinese novels are set in fantasy settings, that only means even more difficulties, in addition to try and make the romance as subtle as possible, they also need to change up the plot. I hope that it'll work out nevertheless, seeing as many of the actors confirmed are quite big names already and work of top celebrities can't be banned that easily. Interestingly, for one of the actors this is already his 2nd BL role, so that's quite risky of him.
>>105143I don't get it either, most people hating on BL are uber woke fakebois. Normal girls and women usually just don't care at all, they don't even know what exactly it is other than "weirdos who like gay anime boys".
No. 105157
>>105153I've noticed a lot of normie-leaning radfem spaces blaming BL of "brainwashing" girls into trooning out which is plain ignorant because they're dodging the real issue altogether by reducing the complexity to "girl fetishizes gay ppl and tries to live out her fetish duuhh!!!!". Not denying that it's a factor at all, but if girls were more comfortable being GNC lesbians without the extra steps of living the aiden LARP dating other female fakebois it wouldn't happen, but I think this is just the aftermath of fujos constantly being made fun of for "self-inserting" into the characters despite being women so they went the opposite direction of "b-but I'm actually a man you know, that makes it less cringe!".
It's not the genre's fault for giving a private space for women to express their sexual needs while being detached from the expectations placed upon them in other female-featuring stories. Sure helped me to come to terms with my lesbianism because I used it as a proxy to interact with other women sexually if that makes any sense.
No. 105160
>>105147does it help that close male friendships aren't as looked down on as in the west? You can see old guys holding hands and nobody care, don't get me started on 'no homo' girl friendships.
I started watching 'Winter Begonia' lately, manly bc of the 1920/30s aestethic, but I immediatly realised it's based on BL.
No. 105168
>>105160I don't think so. Same sex friendships in other asian countries (like in S.Korea) might be more touchy touchy than in the West, but that's not really the case in China or at least not to that big extent. For example, chinese kpop idols often say that they're weirded out by how uncomfortably physically close same sex friends in Korea are, stuff like carrying another man is definitely not seen as a normal thing. But no matter where, people (men) who don't want to see gay content will always find a way to make themselves believe it's straight.
In the case of The Untamed maybe the fact that it was so low budget contributed to whoever is responsible for censoring not paying that close attention to it because they thought it'll flop and thus not reach many people anyway.
No. 105416
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tfw I wish there was more bad boy/delinquent stuff
Can't get enough of those yankii boyz
No. 105552
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Only 3 chapters in and I'm excited to see how this webtoon 'Semantic Error' will develop. It's been a while since I felt this way about anything yaoi related. I liked how the characters felt like real ppl, being in uni, majoring in design and computer science, having strong personalities etc. From what I've been told this one is shounen ai but the author plans on making extras with smut scenes. Idc about that, I just loved the characters and hope I don't get disappointed later on
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>>105489If you're looking for kisses etc then sorry to disappoint you, as mentioned before it's all very subtle, they only say things like them being best friends/soulmates and this is the most intimate they get.
I personally never found it slow at all, so maybe it just isn't for you? You need to look for thai, taiwanese (I really liked Formula 17) and japanese movies if you want to see actual boy love, that stuff is forbidden in China.
No. 105611
>>105552Oooh the art looks really nice, im gonna check it out.
The kind of yaoi i like, i guess would be descirbed as vanille? I really dont like rape or incesty things same with the yuri i read. I like fluf with good art but i dont mind some drama. It's hard sometimes to find good yaoi that dont have the rapey tropes.
No. 105661
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Man, I remember watching the movie Gohatto/Taboo 10years ago, because its Japanese only to be surprised by the gay. Good times
No. 105669
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I don’t even remember why I clicked on this manga this morning, but I saw the tags “guro/gore” and “vore” and even though I’m not into that shit, my stupid monkey brain decided to keep reading anyway and I shamefully really like it… I love the art and the characters and I really want to see what happens lol.
https://myreadingmanga.info/suzuri-ryo-madk-eng/ No. 105700
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>>105669You have fine taste anon! Suzuri Ryo's MADK is excellent, I'm glad you weren't discouraged by the gore/vore tags. Actually, the guro isn't that strong despite what many people say.
If you search for other BL stories from them there's Wembe (which features big cats centaur people?) and The Hunter and the Beast, but beware of semi-bestiality in that one.
You may enjoy their other non-BL works as well, like Magnolia, Toruso no Bokura (picrelated) and Jimba.
No. 105734
>>105669Aside from the Edgy gore, I think the art is really beautiful. You can tell that the mangaka has done a lot of research and worldbuilding
It's a shame how the quality has lowered a bit for other chapters, but I guess they gotta meet a deadline
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Anons what is your favorite BL/Yaoi pic?
Also
>as well as series and games aimed at fujoshi (and fudanshi) like Hetalia, sports anime
Hetalia was aimed at fujos?? I mean I guess it makes sense but wow
No. 106328
>>106306Persona changed a lot since persona 2 unfortunately
The new fire emblem has some m/m romance options I think ? not sure because I dont care about fire emblem but I remember reading this somewhere
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I found this Manhwa called 호형호제 Our Companionship and it's so cute
I'm a total sucker for mmorpg+BL+catfishing stories lol
No. 106381
>>106306Persona 1 and 2 were developed by another team so they're not really comparable to P3 and the rest. I think the weirdest thing here is that the developers actually plan for Yosuke in P4 to be a love interest and to this day even straight guys who are allergic to gay shit think he's the most believable option and obviously in the closet, Akechi is very obviously fujobait but he's never gonna be a gay option, but
Vincent can fall in love with and marry a guy in Catherine Fullbody of all games. Given that P4 was so successful and was developed super fast after P3's release, and how in sequels and spinoffs the developers kept adding blatant fanservice between Yu and Yosuke I'm gonna guess the developers don't want to experiment too much with Persona because it's the most successful series from Atlus and they'd rather experiment and do whatever they want in smaller projects that are marketed towards a different audience. They know that they don't need to confirm any gay character or couple to attract a female audience anyway.
No. 106410
>>106330>akechi is trashyou shut your MOUTH
>>106378The main difference between Akechi and the other confidants (in Royal) is that with everyone else's storylines it's all about Joker helping them out with whatever personal problem they're dealing with in their lives and become stronger people, but with Akechi his confidant events are all about creating a deep bond between them and learning more about his character by just hanging around and talking. In addition to that there's a possiblity to hang out with him at the aquarium which is considered a very usual dating spot for couples.
There's no way it was unintentional for the development team to make it so intimate but bitches chickened out. Dating your adoptive little sister and teacher is fine but apparently a gay option crossed the line. Fuck media for creating deep, meaningful bonds between male characters and never following through.
No. 106454
>>106422Hell yeah old men
I think the appeal of Yu/Adachi is the toxicity love/hate? Like tom and jerry lol
No. 106476
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Anons I just read this and it was so vanilla and fluffy I teared up a bit…
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>>105669Im a rotten degenerate and loved this so much i bought a physical copy to keep on my self
Also im not sure if this is off topic because its gender/bender but has anyone else read Boku-girl?
No. 106503
>>106501Yes it's so good! I'm so glad they went with the ending it did, most series cop out because "no homo", but the author really said fuck it.
I wish there were more chapters, the MC's love interest looked like Kuroo from HQlol
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>>106501>>106503You got me curious and looked at the ending then first chapter but it somehow rubs me the wrong way, I feel like this is one of those stories where the MC goes "Since I'm an super effeminate guy and it's hard to deal with it in society I'm obviously a girl then!" instead of just being that effeminate guy. That being said I wished I read this type of manga before because it's hard to keep an open mind about it now that the trannies ruined this theme for me, that being said I think it's off-topic
since the MC chooses to remains female so "no homo". No. 106509
>>106504Boku-o.p. I am a bi, and personally love the awkward flipping back and forth between genders at the worst time, its like a humiliation thing. But yeah i totally get this isnt really BL/yaoi, but if you are interested in general ecchi its a fun read, great art, and hilarious.
>>106503I loved the corny plot of Loki messing with mortals, my ecchi doesnt need to be complicated. And Takeru is just my type. I love the cat eyed, spikey haired tough guy delinquent look. Any suggestions with boys like him, i would love some!
I want to read boku-girl again, rip mangarock
No. 106524
>>105669Holy shit anon thank you so much for posting this, I had no idea what to expect but this is sooo pretty. I wish there was more of it!
Side note, I'm usually the type that prefers vanilla nonsexual BL because porn is off-putting to me, but apparently degenerate edgy fantasy shit doesn't register the same way and I love it, wtf is that?
No. 106529
>>106501I was really considering buying myself a physical copy too lmaoo. Maybe I will now.
>>106524I'm glad others like it!! I'm still thinking about it to this day…
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>>106422>Yu tries way too hardThat's why it's fun.
No. 106671
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>>106575Holy shit, anon. I've been laughing at this panel for 5 minutes. Great rec, thanks.
No. 106863
>>106854It would be better of she was just a character there to be cute tbh. The fact that she's shoehorned in and made to be important when there isn't a lot in her character is what many people dislike.
I always kind of laugh at the excuse, that is that "the characters are just not gay", that many (coomers) use when justifying Atlus's choice of making the male characters non-dateable. Like sure, none of the male characters are gay despite some obvious hints, but all the female adults happen to be pedophiles. That's good, right?
No. 106914
>>106854atlus is just largely anti-gay, their interviews are really telling.
sidenote about p5 though - Does anyone else dislike fandom portrayals of Ryuji? They make him an uwu soft boy next door when he's a huge dick for no reason. What made me dislike him was right after a dungeon, the
victim is traumatized/homeless and he just burps in their face for no reason? Like did no one else play the game or are they just ignoring this scene? It drives me insane.
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Anons… Reading this hurt me… :'(
No. 107078
>>106914YES THIS.
I especially hate it since the fandom puts more of the blame on Morgana who's a fucking cat half the time yet despite that he's somehow 'abusing the babby Ryuji uwu'. I think it's because people generally latch onto the 'bro' characters personally though I only liked Junpei (who was the least bro of them since most of his character centered around a slight rival angle with the protagonist and his thing with Chidori) while Yosuke is just homophobic half the time which could have been fine if they left him in as a romance option but they didn't so it just felt kind of mean at times? Honestly making Yosuke bi/gay would have fixed a lot of shit.
No. 107083
>>107078Ironically enough when you play as the femc in P3P Junpei becomes the best bro of all the series, P1 and P2 included. I didn't care about him more than the other characters at first when playing when playing as the male MC but his social link with the FEMC is a really nice addition.
>Honestly making Yosuke bi/gay would have fixed a lot of shit.Given how he acts in the sequels/spinoffs I like to think he is and he's just in denial because come on, Atlus just won't stop adding more and more hints/fanservice with Yu to the point where I'm wondering if the developers didn't regret not leaving his romance option in the original game at some point.
No. 107882
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Anyone reading room no 9? I got it because it looks like the persona 4 characters and it reads well, but man some scenes had me queasy.
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No. 108494
>>108465Nagisa x Karma just seems such classic self-inserty baby”s first yaoi couple
I like cross dressing in BL but it’s very a case to case thing
No. 108499
>>107882I am not reading it but I plan to, do you like it so far ? i kind of expect some sort of BL euphoria but less extreme i guess, i haven't read euphoria but the idea of something similar with BL elements sounds perfect to me
>>108465no you're not alone i dislike it most of the time too, i dont know why
No. 108519
>>108512Cross-dressing in BL makes one character basically the woman in all but name, like the pic you posted is an exception not the rule
It basically makes it straight genderbend doujin
No. 108584
>>108579HOW DARE YOU, quit being a moralfag let us enjoy underage characters getting gang raped, you're probably just a scrote anyway /s
Yeah the frequency of rapes yaoi sends a
problematic message for younger readers and might get some of them into ddlg shit
No. 108591
>>108589>To be honest I like crossdressing as a doujinshi fetish when it's done as a strictly a bedroom thing, like wearing a maid dressI feel this type of this thing is kinda offensive to women, it's like drag for me, sure it's done by gay men but it still mocks the female form, so maid dresses and wearing womens clothes in bed, even if it's being done by 2 males, it still reinforces misogyny
>>108588both can perpetuate ddlg shit, especially if the Uke is super female coded, like nagisa is literally just a girl, meant for self insert
No. 108593
>>108591>>108592Fucking leave already, this reads like a weak bait. Why does this thread constantly get raided by people who want to tell us dumb fujos how
problematic and "misogynistic" we are based on some surface level observations that have been discoursed to death already? Take it to your twitter fandom tag or something.
No. 108607
>>108603I did not even for one moment compare yaoi to IRL porn, IRL porn is much much worse and yaoi is a fantasy, but you have to admit that fantasy has power, if Scrotes can be broken by the fantasy of hentai and traps to become knee high sock wearing AGPs then yaoi has power as well, in certain yaoi it's clear to everyone who the female stand in-is and we get shit like fakebois or r/ftmpunishment, my God no is saying this is the worst shit ever, this criticism is coming from people who like BLs and yaoi and want to remove certain
toxic elements
No. 108616
>>108613I mean, yeah, there are lots of retarded teens thinking they’re men because they have a mix of troons grooming them into thinking they’re that perfect anime guy they saw once, AND anime porn, but it’s not just the anime porn as how you think.
Also, the people posting here are not those retarded teens, if it bothers you so much, stop posting in this thread your fucking takes and go to twitter to help the poor kids you’re so worried about, retard.
No. 108618
>>108590>Where's Gangrape-chan when you need her?I'm here. Got any good recs? Been in the mood for, like, abuse and really nasty dirty talk.
>>107882It's good, I recommend it. (
Especially because they look like Persona 4 characters.) I posted a bit about it in the last thread. It's fap-worthy, lots of good scenes, and anything gross can be switched off in the settings.
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Just felt the need to share this
No. 108636
>>108465to be fair nagisa has cake and woman bearing hips, it's easy for artists just to make him a girl.
But no I agree with you, sometimes crossdressing becomes too much. If I wanted pussy I'd read hentai lol
No. 108645
>>108632What's this from? Looks cute.
>>108633Thanks friend.
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>>108522100% agree!
At first I started reading it because of the curiosity, but the story is quite decent.
Caius is an amazing husbando material.
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>>108636On top of that he crossdresses a lot in the actual anime.
I like it though so I have no problem with it.
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>>109505It was so hot when Karma and Nagisa were beating the shit out of each other btw
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I ran across this the other day and it was the hottest shit I've seen in a long while so I thought I'd recommend it. It's called "Junai Drop Out" by Misaka Niumu.
No. 109770
>>109509>>109590What part of
>Being reasonably critical of BL is welcomed but don't come here only to bait or excessively moralsperg about fujos or how much you hate BL as a genre. Take it to Twitter. don't you dumb shits understand?
>>109596I didn't know I had a body writing kink but this image made me realize it.
No. 109913
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TFW you have mild fujo tendencies but are disgusted by anything anal related but also butt stuff seems to be unavoidable in NSFW BL media
Can someone please recommend something with as little anal stuff as possible, because BJs and frotting >>>>>>>
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>>109509Hell, even most old yaoi is bad. Worse even because of all the pointless rape lmao. You're better off seeking content from twitter artists these days.
Also, I get people like size difference but this looks so ridiculous.
was the discord deleted?or was there a purge? No. 110080
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>>109596this is one of my faves! good taste, anon.
pic related, i really like that sweet spot between not extremely lanky but also not extremely muscular men in bl. maki masaki is really good at this. her bottoms are always super cute, needy and slutty. i especially recommend koisuru hypnotic therapy (a guy gets erotic massages to get rid of his tendency to fall in love easily) and yasashii pantsu no nugasekata (a high school boy starts wearing panties because he fantasies about his best friend taking them off for him)!
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i love red/blue from pokemon so fucking much. i shipped it in the anime as a child and i'm decades older now and still ship it. i love that we've gotten to see them grow into adults
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>>111652Personally I prefer isshushipping but Red and Blue are cute as well.
No. 112136
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So I don't usually ship m/m characters even in traditional Shonen, but I really want to talk about Hajime no Ippo, which I will proudly say that I love to death and also that it's super fucking gay that its almost ridiculous
Ippo(the MC) legit lusts after brooding rival Miyata and waits for the day to fight him, then there's sendo who is brash aggressive character and he has so many gay moments with ippo and even excluding the MC all the male characters have so many intimate gay moments, like Mashiba(a frighting brooding sorta anti-hero boxer)and Itagaki(a young upstart at ippo's gym) going basically on a date shopping for clothes
and the female characters are also something else, like if there was a category for least developed female characters then hajime no ippo would easily rank in the top 5, cause every female character is either bland no personality supportive mother or bland no personality supportive sister and the exception to this archetype does nothing for the plot but give out exposition to the readers
No. 112168
>>112136You're not alone, Anon. I really wish HnI was more popular so we could get more anime seasons, but it'll probably never happen.
Seconding how surprisingly gay the show is.
No. 112182
EVERYONE should read Sign if you have time to spare. You can complain about anything else in the story except the main pairing. I’ve never shipped anything harder.
I had no intention of falling down the fujo rabbit hole but whenever I look up fanart for one series, I see another and just start reading away. What are you all reading currently?
My reading list at the moment:
No way, vampires don’t exist (tappytoon)
Vampire Heart (lezhin)
Red Candy (rosesquad scans)
Mr. 100% Perfect (tapas)
Fate Makes No Mistakes (lezhin)
And I was reading ANTI P.T. (lezhin) but it seems like there’s going to be some tragedy for the second lead soon.
Cherry Blossom Bloom After Winter (tappytoon) and Semantic Error (chili tangerine scans) are on my list to start reading soon.
>>109986I hate the titan’s bride for that very reason. It feels uncomfortable to look at them and the way he constantly refers to their size differences as cute even when fucking when he’s the average size for a human.
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>>112168>>112136one of my favorite moments in the manga
https://imgur.com/a/pUkUc4AI never even thought about shipping these 2 cause they'd never interacted but he gave these two a heartfelt moment and friendship out of nowhere, the author does this with every one one of the major and minor characters
No. 112513
>>112375For stuff with an actual plot, if I already know the title I just google '[title] manga read online' or something similar. Lots of sites host scanlations.
If it's not a popular/well known enough manga you might be SOL.
For PWP I just browse myreadingmanga like the other Anon said.
No. 112548
>>112378>>112513MRM is already on my watchlist but like mentioned I only go there for smut. I'm so lost on how to follow current releases and where to read them so I barely even know any titles. At the moment I mostly just hear about them through the grapevine or by lucky chance so I just don't understand how people can be so aware of every single title coming out. I mean I follow Japanese publications so I know about the new ones but the scanlations/international releases can take up to 2 years so it's really hard to keep track.
Guess I'll just have to learn more Japanese to actually read the originals lmao
No. 112557
>>105134>>112375baka-manga updates. You can’t read manga on there, but it tells you who scanlated what, and usually where you can find more by that team (website links).
Otherwise, I procure tags on regular hosting sites and if I find something I like, I’ll look up the team and see what else they’ve worked on. On instagram it’s especially popular for people to purchase officially translated chapters of manga/manhua/webtoons and repost them there or on aggregators, the same thing happens on facebook. Usually one person or a group is reposting multiple works from similar genres (in this case, BL) so that’s how you can get introduced to new series and more scan teams too (because of general discussion about BL.)
No. 112558
>>112548I don’t follow Japanese BL so if this isn’t what you were looking for, I’m sorry anon! But BL webtoons are pretty popular these days, you can visit lezhin or tappytoon or tapas and search through the BL series to see what’s trending. Lezhin is definitely the most popular out of the three sites, though. They churn out interesting series consistently. Painter of the Night is afaik the most popular BL webtoon atm (smut), if you can find somewhere to read it for free then you can probably find anything there. You should also be able to search on most aggregators with a “sort by most popular” function, and/or see what’s most recently viewed on the homepage.
The Keystone Romantic Combination looks very sweet. It’s completed though, I don’t want to start reading it only to get to the end and be left knowing that there’s no more.
No. 112751
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Since quarantine has been spiraling me back into being a fujo - what are anons' favourite visual novels?
I finished Room No.9 yesterday and while it was fucked up as expected from Clockup I strangely enjoyed it. The artwork was also beautiful. I don't think however I could play anything like this again.
I don't think I ever found a perfect visual novel for me but I enjoyed Dramatical Murder and Togainu no Chi. Back in the day I liked playing fanmade vns but they quickly went to shit with Steam's woke crap and western art style.
No. 112752
>>112751I think Nitro+Chiral's novels are always very nice. Have you tried sweet pool or Lamento?
Other than that I don't really know any other well done BL visual novels. The amateur stuff tends to be bad.
No. 112774
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>>112693Out of curiosity, what kind of discussion/content/fandoms etc would you guys want out of a fujo server?
No. 112790
>>112774Nta but i would like stuff like anime discussion separated from manga discussion since sometimes a manga has stuff the anime doesn’t have and the other way around.
Husbandofagging, ship loving and ship bashing channels.
Maybe a channel to discuss authors. Fanart posting, porn fanart posting and parody posting channels.
Music, because sometimes an anime could have some nice songs and whatnot, maybe someone has a sick mixtape they want to show to everyone so we can enjoy reading to the max.
Yaoi memes, because why not, maybe regular memes as well to keep the cancer at bay.
RP request channels for whoever is into that stuff.
Fanfic sharing and fanfic discussion channels.
Random yaoi pictures sharing, sfw and porn channels.
Maybe furry yaoi stuff for the furries to keep the furry cancer at bay as well.
I think that’s basically it.
No. 112796
>>112790Agree except for the ship hating, unless we have good moding the discord is going to become shit fast
>>112792Yes please, +22 would be amazing
I think trying to keep it as simple as possible at first would be better and keep adding stuff according to the needs
No. 112818
>>112790I agree, but I think this discord might be too slow (maybe that's why the old one apparently died) unless we get people from other places as well.
It would be best if we could ban ~discourse
No. 112835
>>112792>>112122>>112693>>112790>>112774Please email me if you want to join the discord. Thanks! fujo.discord.throwaway@gmail.com
>>112751I LOVED Room No. 9. I've mentioned several times in the last thread, probably - I've lost track. It's just delicious. Depressing, but hits a lot of my kinks, so.
Unfortunately, some of the best scenes happen after you give Seiji the enema, lmao. DAICHI RUBBING HIS FOOT ON SEIJI'S DICK IN THE SHOWER?? AND the ending where Seiji basically becomes a whore to old men while Daichi watches?? Sign me up.Did you play Hashihime? (Assuming you did based on the image.) Another depressing game, but insanely beautiful art.
No. 112884
>>112790>Maybe furry yaoi stuff for the furries to keep the furry cancer at bay as well.Hell no. Furries need to be kept out at all costs. Most furry gay porn is made by male cumbrains and have all those sick anal prolapse style fetishes included. Like regular fudanshis sometimes like some weird shit in their bara stuff but gay furries are unbearable with their degeneracy because they're all sex-crazed druggies. Wouldn't share a space with them, ever. Even with a containment channel.
Honestly the best BL discord would be 20+, no discourse, no ship shaming, female only, no kink policing except for graphic gore and snuff (and furries) and everything else goes.
No. 112919
>>112751If you can read Japanese try Pil/SLASH's Shingakkou ~Noli me tangere~. It's an occult mystery with reversible options for the MC too. Some grotesque imagery is involved and some characters come from really depressing circumstances, but it's good if you like dark stuff.
And agreed on recent western VNs being too…woke. It reminds me of that "Office Type" game with loads and loads of characters of ~all genders uwu~ but i bet they'll all suffer paper thin character/plot development from overambition.
No. 113489
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A kind and precious anon in the previous thread linked to a massive dump of In these words, but unfortunately the site got deleted and reading the archived one has made me partially blind. I've searched around for hours now, does anyone have any tips to where I can find it online?
No. 113547
>>113541No, goddess is just a nickname for a direct download website /a/ made for manga a while ago. It was created after mangatraders had a big security breach and the owner shut it down, but a couple years ago the creator of goddess went awol and stopped letting people make accounts.
There are some anons on /y/ that still use it but the thing with g
uilt peasure is that they send DMCAs like crazy whenever any of their stuff gets shared, so that’s probably why everything disappears so fast on public sites
No. 113933
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Is anyone else here watching the Japanese bl drama that's airing atm called Cherry Magic? I've only seen two episodes so far and I really like it. The male lead (Adachi) is so cute.
No. 114064
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Restrained Jotaro hits differently.
No. 114443
For those who liked The Untamed, another novel of the same author has been made into a series and the art is really pretty (and chinese scrotes are already mass downvoting and giving 1 star reviews because of course women aren't allowed to have nice things…)
>>114152>>113933>>113982Anons, where can I watch this? Looks really nice, I especially like when the characters are slighly older
>Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?!kek
No. 114463
>>114455Thanks!
>>114456You mean the one that I posted? Heaven Official's Blessing, but for me it's still up?
No. 114803
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>>112136God I thought I was the only one who loved this hot trash so much, and you are right it is unintentionally one of the gayest series of all time even among shonen and sports anime,which is impressive
and the fight scenes are incredibly homoerotic
No. 114850
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>>114839no its a semi-recurring gag, Takamura(the guy with the pompadour) despite being the best Middle weight boxer has a pencil dick, while Ippo the title name main character has a massive cock that reaches to his thighs at rest
so dick Jokes about Takamuras pencil dick and Ippos elephant dick are were semi recurring but the author seems to have toned it down much more now compared to the early years
No. 114902
>>114900Maybe Golden Kamuy? But to be fair, although it was a run of the mill seinen for like the first 100 chapters, after that it got very uh… it started getting extremely graphic with gay fanservice out of nowhere. I wonder how much of the male reader base dropped off after the author abruptly started drawing his male characters' dicks and buttholes in every other chapter lmfao.
The comments on free manga websites when those chapters hit were funny as hell with "what the HELL is this faggot shit?!
No. 114916
>>114913are you autistic? Must one write up a dissertation on Ainu culture every time they make a casual comment about fanservice in GK?
If we use your retarded comparison, this is like if someone said the actor who played Atticus in the movie of To Kill a Mockingbird was hot and you responded with outrage that the comment didn't cover civil rights.
No. 114922
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>>114921well because you asked so nicely
No. 114953
>>114931If you didn't get into it by the second volume I think it's safe to say it just isn't for you, which is fine.
>>114934That's what I thought too and then I spit out my drink upon reading he has a wife
No. 115016
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>>114934I didn't know shit about Golden Kamui I thought it was just some basic action adventure series but upon brief research it's literally just gay as fuck. I respect it
and also want to read this now
>ask creator which scene he likes the most>"I think the scene when serial killer Henmi and Sugimoto tried to kill each other (in volume 5) was romantic. I think I had a boner when I was drawing it.">says he wants readers to pay attention "the beautiful naked bodies of men">character's glowing boner>there is apparently a jack off showdown Fuck it ladies I know bara stuff is geared toward men but I love me some big bara tiddy
No. 115022
>>115016I feel like as long as the characters still look like humans and not over inflated balloon animals it's not
bara bara, kek
Also I'm about 40 chapters away from being caught up on GK and havent run across the scene you speak of yet. However I do not doubt it. Any doubt I ever had about how far the author was willing to go flew out the window upon seeing sugimoto's spread asscheeks in the hot springs chapter. That's when I realized Noda cannot and will not be stopped. The madman.
No. 115024
>>115016well Golden Kamuy I feel is a nice in between Bara and Bisonen, the characters are muscular but to a realistic proportion, other characters are beautiful and pretty but not overly feminine and female coded like the way a lot of yaoi has
overall its a nice balance
No. 115039
>>114953A wife? Maybe he is bi (I hope, for the sake of his wife) and letting out all his homolust through his manga. Araki who draws Jojo also feels like he is doing just that.
>>115016>there is apparently a jack off showdownHoly shit which chapter?
No. 115046
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>>115043He really enjoys drawing fabulous men and the male body. I do get that vibe from him.
No. 115282
>>115039Starts in chapter 238.
>>115022Absolute madman, indeed. It’s amazing to me how well he maintains serious storytelling while pulling this through.
I think that stuff actually acts as a good filter, according to data the readers are evenly split between male and female and more on the mature scale.
No. 115872
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I've been fond of the tsuchigama pairing from yokai watch lately. YW feels like a hidden gem outside Japan.
No. 115927
>>115859I do. It's mostly festival of cringe and bad acting, but some stories are strangely addictive.
Philippines are making great BL shows right now. You should check Gameboys and Like in the movies A+ content.
No. 116008
>>115925I know what you mean anon, the language just sounds so goofy and it's hard to take it seriously at sometimes because of it
>>115927>It's mostly festival of cringe and bad actingYea it really is and not to mention the hilariously obvious product placement too! I don't know why but I just find it so charming. Thanks for the recs I'll check em out too!
No. 116012
>>115859yes i fell down a rabbit hole a few weeks back and binged all the ones you mentioned. all the plots are ridiculous (i mean they’re BL dramas) but i agree that there is something really charming and sweet about the characterizations. also i knew nothing about thai nickname culture and i just think it’s neat you have people named like Type and Gunsmile.
i’m pretty basic so 2gether is my favorite. i just found out hiromasa okujima is doing the manga adaption of the novel so i’m really curious to see if that gets translated since i love his art.
No. 116137
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>>116008actually, I'm swallowing my words. I started watching Until we meet again and I think the language is growing on me
No. 116433
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I just blasted through all 92 chapters of Love and Hate and… Wow. Just wow.
I have never read a better BL story.
The plot is incredible, the pacing is relatively slow but there's so much happening in every chapter. The MCs are not only realistic, but very mature and in a way very likeable. The author is so good at showing the dynamics and emotions between the characters, especially with her flashbacks in crucial moments. The photos on the title numbers pages on each chapter are absolutely beautiful and all of them sort of appear in the story which makes for nice foreshadowing.
Oh, and sex scenes are FANTASTIC. I regret not bookmarking the chapters with them but it only gives me an excuse to re-read it.
No. 116673
>>116137Thai still sounds goofy to me but my tolerance level for it is steadily getting higher. Also godda watch that one
>>116138I'm really liking the actors Bright (mostly cause of his looks) Singto, Krist and recently the new actor that's in Oxygen, Supanut, he has the voice of an angel
No. 116717
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>>114900Cheating since it's a sports anime about rugby but, the anime adaption of all out could be a shounen ai about big buff bara boys and nothing would change. Blonde boy on the left blushes a shit ton as a bonus. Get backers's anime adaption is also pretty gay too.
No. 116718
>>116704>wattpadReally anon… I thought everyone agreed that wattpad is shit.
Not the anon you replied to but I believe you can read it on Lezhin and there are also some other
not so legal sites that you can read it on.
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>>116704I've read it on kissmanga, but then I bought out all episodes on Lezhin because that's how good it was.
No. 117022
>>117015I'm an oldfag so I remember Heero/Duo being a big thing in the early to mid 00's. Gravitation wasn't that big in the circles I hung around with, I think it was deemed a bit cringey even at that point. Inuyasha/Sesshoumaru was popular too when the anime came out, Loveless was
huge in 2005 and outside of anime Harry/Draco from Harry Potter was everywhere. And of course Naruto/Sasuke was popular ever since the anime first aired, not much has changed with that one.
The 00's fujo circles were quite different from nowadays, people didn't really give a shit if the ship was incest/
abusive/whatever or not if the two guys had good chemistry and looked hot together. Now you got this whole fucking kangaroo court of twitter zoomers demanding human rights for cartoon characters.
No. 117059
>>116741I remember an anon made a interesting point about this phenomenon, the more female characters in a series the more straight ships will be prevalent in the fandom
sage cause its off topic but I do think its true for the most part
No. 117074
>>117022Damn I remember the Loveless times, I was really into it too kek. I think that manga's still ongoing.
But this makes me think about the kuroshitsuji SebaCiel ship and how people used to openly ship it even if it was technically shota.
No. 117079
>>117022Thank you, anon! I completely forgot about Loveless and it was a BIG thing.
>>117050>Weiß KreuzI recently had the weirdest urge to watch this, since I only heard about it!
No. 117097
>>117015I remember Gundam Wing and Gravitation being popular, but what got me into it was Yugioh. Yugi/Kaiba, Jou/Kaiba, Yugi/Yami, Ryou/Yami, etc.
Those were the days.
No. 117191
Also nitro+chiral novels were extremely popular in the late 00s like Togainu no Chi and Lamento before Dmmd hit big. I wasn't into them myself at all but my friends were obsessed with them.
>>117091I can't believe that in 2008 we were free to ship whatever the fuck we wanted and nobody thought of us as child porn advocates because nobody saw the characters as real people or much less "real children". If someone in the late 00s came from the future to tell me that in 2020 you'll be cancelled for being over 22 and drawing Bakugo porn because he's a "minor" despite being a muscle filled superhero I probably would've sworn off fandoms forever and taken the normie route immediately kek. I didn't even like Kuroshitsuji and thought SebaCiel fans were cringey but never in my life would I had called them pedos.
No. 117195
>>117191I reminisce about those times a lot, too. I just feel like this whole crusade of fighting fujoshi “pedos” is another way of internalized misogyny. It’s constantly girls attacking other girls, but those some girls attacking rarely go after men who enjoy mainstream loli oriented shit.
I’m hoping after 2020, by some fucking miracle, people go back to fictional things stating fictional.
No. 117224
>>117196AFTER ALMOST A DECADE NITRO+ IS FINALLY MAKING NEW CONTENT???
Excited for the fucked up shit to come
No. 117334
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ladies do we agree on this
No. 117336
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>>117334MMink; is shown t,to be verry cold aand hseartlevss whh,,en thee playeeR ..is; first intrroduced to him justt. Hee iss apathetcc wtaards anyoone else'.s welll-kbeing annd merciless t o th o;se jwho defy h;him ujst. Because he has had surrpresssed his emotionns fo ryyearrs and prre..eventted hiimjusst..seelf froom getttign to..o cl,,osee to oothers, MMink hass aan oddd w,ay ofe xpressng him juts;;self. iMnk is distant and ruu,,thlles s \too Aooba inn the begirnninG. He beats and oFrr,,ces hhim justsle,,f oon him ,juust numero,us ttim ju..ste .sfo,,r eeitheer ddnefying; ink,,'s orddeerss orr vtryiing;; to e,,cappee ffrom him just out o,f pure ffeaarr,, comine goff as poss.essivE aand cconntrolllii..ng.
currently playing this man's route and i hate him more than anything … ugly fivehead
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>>117345I read 2 volumes and it's constantly men (especially the two classmates) acting rapey towards the two girls and the fujoshi part is barely brought up sans "oh my god a shirtless male squee" type of tacky scenes that last for one panel and are repeated ad nauseum, then being followed by numerous pages of titties, upskirt shots and retarded boy&girl shoujo romance scenes. I'm sorry anon but this is some dumb fucking material so far, I could imagine that scrotes who believe fujos would be cured by dick would enjoy this. Pic related.
No. 117348
>>117347There are better scenes later, the beginning isn't really amazing tbh and I never cared about the Matsui and the blond guy's romance. I really started loving it when the two MC try to start their own blog and doujinshi circle
until one of the guy's childhood friend, a fujoshi pretending to be a total normie, see the two girls, get jealous of their friendship and tries to ruin it by linking their blog on 2ch and shit talking them behind their backs.
>I could imagine that scrotes who believe fujos would be cured by dick would enjoy this.The mangaka is a fujoshi herself but I have no idea what type of series she draws other than that one. iirc according to her notes the manga was published in a seinen magazine, maybe that's why there's so much fanservice at the beginning.
No. 117398
>>117348>>117347>I could imagine that scrotes who believe fujos would be cured by dick I don't think that's the message, I do think it's possible to be a fujo and have a relationship with a guy, hell I'm married, have 2 children and still enjoy reading some BL's
sage for blog post
No. 117415
>>117413I would never describe myself as a fujo mom, I keep my genre interests separate from my actual life, like I find it cringy when people make being fujoshi or liking bl a part of their identity when it shouldn't be
a man who likes action movies is just a man who happens to like action movies and I as some one who likes BL and m/m content and am just a woman who happens to like it, but it's not part of me
No. 117429
>>117415I don't know what you mean exactly by "making being a fujo their identity" but for many women it's not just about getting their kicks from two guys getting it on, but also about connecting with other fans who share the same background, interests and fandoms. Personally I find BL to be a good way to bond with fellow women who enjoy something truly meant for us in peace since moids won't be caught dead involved in the community. If you just read BL content because you like it but don't get into it past that then good for you but there are plenty of women who use the community as a female-only safe haven where they're allowed to exist as they are. And I'm saying this as an ex-pickme who used to be into straight hentai hanging around men without many female friends until I got into BL and I know there are a lot of people like me.
There's also someone seething and hovering around this thread again and complaining about evil nasty fujos in /ot/, I think good old gangrape-chan should come to lift up the spirits a bit kek
No. 117438
>>117436Children under 18 shouldn't be reading porn, period. That's why it's banned from minors. It's your duty as a parent to monitor what your kids consume, not the actual author's. It's dumb as hell to blame fanfic writers or doujinshikas for inadequate parenting.
>inb4 but they'll find it anyway!!!!Yeah they probably will because every teen has a smartphone these days but fictional cartoon men are detached from reality and it's even questionable to claim that they cause "damage" compared to teenage boys ruining their psyche by developing an addiction to IRL porn, the case which all the studies are conducted upon.
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>>117433>>117436scrote begone.
moids bitch about bl tainting their future pure waifus whilst spanking it to degrading violent porn of
real people from the age of 11. what's new?
>>117415i support and love you anon.
No. 117521
>>117519i've been into BL since teens and i'm the most vanilla bitch I know.
meanwhile my moid friends consuming porn since around the same age either trooned out or can't get it up without seeing a woman being gangraped while wearing a maid costume.
i'm absolutely against kids watching any sort of porn before they're adults, but don't give me that double standard bullshit implying bl destroys people nearly as much as mainstream coomerism does. go on 4chan and shit on coomers if you are such a knight in a shining armor and let us women have a space to enjoy things.
funny that all OG fujo mom said is that she'll never let her preference to bl in real life but you monkeys still found a way to turn it around and call fujos pedos.
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>>117522Idk why we keep engaging the retard
Instead we should discuss how KS is kino af
No. 117537
>>117536Two good articles recounting this and how it happened:
https://www.kaorinusantara.or.id/english/2199/women-and-yaoi-in-japanese-dojinshi-culturehttps://crawfordpro.wordpress.com/2020/05/03/article-the-castle-of-doom-and-the-lolicon-boom/Basically scrotes were so annoyed in the early 1980's that the popularity of BL was growing so fast that they wanted to shock all the women out of the event and make them uncomfortable by making their graphic lolishit visible everywhere.
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>>117523First time reading BL?
>>117537NTA but I was wondering what the 2-3 year part meant on this description of comiket attendees, and that explains it. Too bad they came back.
No. 117549
>>117546He's cool with it for the most part, but he's not super into it, he primarily only ever reads image comic mini-series and is fiscally responsible so he never spends too much, the few mainstream stuff he likes is all western, while I'm into primarily Anime and Manga(I know what a shocker), so our interests never really clash together, we end up doing different stuff but we have plenty of stuff we both like, old dubbed foreign films, random documentaries or bad hour long PSA's
so we respect each other interests(with in reason) and also have mutual activities that we can enjoy together
No. 117615
>>117562The thing that got to me most was that the core essence of loli porn was (and still is) to take back male control of female sexuality by making the subjects helpless, innocent and small. Like the literal motivation behind creating the whole genre was to get back at women for having something they enjoyed and men didn't. It's a very, very disturbing thought.
>>117613This. I literally couldn't date a man that would disapprove me of liking gay anime shit (granted he was a weeb nerd like me) because it tells a lot about him if he's so close minded that he's uncomfortable with me enjoying something that's basically exclusive to women and can't be assed to understand that.
No. 117623
>>117613>>117615>>117618He doesn't like porn himself and considers romance stuff to be essentially emotional porn for women. Doesn't want me getting emotionally into male characters nor finding other things sexually arousing aside from him. He believes sexual energy (dunno what else to call it) should be for your partner only.
>I draw gay porn and my bf doesn’t really mindHe'd rather I not draw porn at all actually, het or gay. I've been into bl for well over 10 years though and am a pretty vanilla person (more so than him even) so whatever effect he thinks this will have/has had on me clearly isn't there. Perhaps some day I'll change his mind, but either way I'm going to read and watch my gay shit anyway. Didn't mean to turn this into a blog post, my bad
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>>117623You're gonna inevitably catch him watching hentai or porn, I'm calling it. The projection is strong on this one with the "emotionally invested" crap, men just don't understand women can consume things non sexually without self inserting.
To get things back on track - Usagi no Mori has not been updated for 2 months and I am losing hope. The burn is too slow for a periodically released manga.
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>>117523I hate that I actually thought bum was gonna get with the police officer. After a few chapters of steamy sex and actually being given love and affection, we'd have a mini angst arc of him deciding to either go back or just confess. Then he'd spend the rest of his days serving time while his cop bf visits on weekends. Ala
Adachi's ending in P4AU.
No. 117675
>>117670No, in the end
Sangwoo dies after being hospitalized when the cop set his house on fire and Bum is implied to die by getting hit by a car when he's hallucinating Sangwoo being alive and trying to run after him.
No. 117719
>>117663If the remaining chapters were just hatefucking with qt cop, I'd read it.
>>117704You read KS because of the sex scenes or
because you imagine bum as Levi not for the "plot".
>>117523OP it's fine if you like anime boys suffering but, don't lie and claim this torture porn is kino. It's… ridiculously
boring. No. 117720
>>117295download adblock and ublock, and visit the site in incognito mode. If whatever you download ends in " .exe " cancel the download and exit, it's a scam. Good luck.
Or you can just post the link here and share lmao
No. 117726
>>117704Personally I didn't like KS, the characters were both horrible and ugly people both physically and mentally, the sex scenes were painful to look at and the plot dragged on and went in circles a
lot only to resort into that ending. Not worth the time I sank into it imo. It all depends on if you like that sort of stuff though.
No. 117740
>>117734I'm guessing it's 1.) homophobia and 2.) because they're projecting and become jealous and controlling. When they watch their porn they imagine themselves to be fucking the woman, so they believe that's the case with women and their BL as well. Even though it's more about following the dynamic of the two characters from a third person's perspective. That's why scrotes try to push the annoying narrative that women self-insert into the twink to be fucked by the hot top guy, they can't comprehend the thought of simply wanting to read a good story about two characters.
Generally the men I see being fine with their girlfriend being a fujo also tend to treat women with dignity and respect, the ones who are insecure about their fujo girlfriend often have misogynistic tendencies otherwise as well. I mean it's fine if they don't enjoy it themselves but it's such a harmless girls' club hobby that there's no good reason to be so bothered over its existence.
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>>117740If we're discussing our partners opinions on fujoshi, my boyfriend thinks it's hilarious and generally doesn't mind it. I do often feel quite respected by this man so I think you're onto something, anon.
He was shocked though when I told him I don't self insert at all while reading BL. If I wanted to self insert I'd read josei smut.
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>>117445>>117720Thank you for the advice anons! I didn’t even know r/slavelabour existed (would they really be able to find the CD?) and I wouldn’t want to send a potentially harmful link to any of you either. I did use 2 different ad blockers and separate browser from the app store, unfortunately though the website reposted the image used for the soundcloud clip, not the audio. The image was a low quality jpeg screenshot of probably a random doujin, picrel. I wish I could recognize seiyuus, it was honestly a good scene! Well acted. This is where I found the audio the first time
https://soundcloud.com/r18_otakus/random-yaoi-cd-drama-4-r18-headphones/recommend (both link and account are deleted)
But since my initial post, I’ve looked deeper into BLCDs and was referred to hibikiforum. It’s a wiki database for information on BLCD releases. I had to scrounge through about 15 years of CD releases to try and find it and still haven’t, but I’ve marked off some 200 BLCDs I suspect are what I’m looking for. I’m going to figure out how to sift through all of them, but this is the scene description in case an anon itt might have an idea
2 ukes and 2 semes speak for a moment then they all make out with Parisian ratatouille movie-esque music in the background. Music goes silent as setting changes to a bathroom or possibly an onsen, characters talk and then resume making out as goofy acoustic (guitar or banjo, very country) bgm begins to play. After climax the ukes talk with echo from the bathroom, make out, and the scene ends. The audio was likely reposted to soundcloud by a random person, so it’s probable that isn’t the full track.
If I come across it, or any of the cd’s I have to sift through seem of interest, I’ll for sure write a post about them here if any of you are interested!
No. 117997
>>117740Sorry to blog here, but I wanted to share my response and maybe it could add to our insights.
I've been confused about why I like BL, but you really touched on it. I like m/m because m/f can have unpleasant power dynamics, to get that in the clear. Most of the m/m pairings I liked I didn't relate to the characters much. The ones where I did, I was a lot less likely to tolerate nsfw. I'm really not sure why, I guess the emotional connection was the most important in those cases. But what you said has cleared my mind. I assumed I was still self-inserting somehow, and maybe I am who knows, but it's true that we are at heart enjoying a story about two people. The dynamics are the most important thing to me. That's why personally I've always favored messier pairings with work to be done, it adds more to the story. I'm sure there is a selfish aspect as well, because seeing these situations turn out happily is something admirable. But it's no different to me than watching a romance movie, where you might think "Ah how nice that played out, if only things could be that way in my life." As for smut it's an added bonus but not needed. There was a time I needed it in my fics because I was emotionally numbed, but now I skip it to be honest. I still like when it's present because it adds more drama otherwise lol. Again sorry for blog but I'm hoping someone understands my experience and also thank you for helping me understand!
No. 118006
>>117997I think a lot of women buy into the self-insert meme and don't figure out "why" they like BL. Women in general have to suffer through heaps of sexualization and fetishization in their lives so watching two (female-written) male characters grow their relationship as an outsider is like a breath of fresh air in the middle of all the bullshit M/F dynamics that exist and force you to self-insert into an uncomfortable situation. I never got into the otome or shoujo genre because so many of them are straight out
abusive towards the female MCs so I had trouble detaching myself from the situation emotionally. With BL I don't really have that problem because the characters being at least physically male help me read it as a story instead of projecting my own being.
No. 118443
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Okay which one of you went and pissed off this hilarious sperg-chan by ruining her precious pure maid waifu thread?
..Was it you, Gangrape-chan? Please whoever it was post more here
No. 118459
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>>118443JUSTICE FOR GRAPE-CHAN
No. 118485
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>>118006Speaking for myself, I just like the way certain BL and fanfic write male characters. Because most BL and fic is authored by women, the stories ostensibly take place in an alternate universe where most men are cuddly and emotionally intelligent. They're basically men minus all the shit women hate about many of them, i.e., poor hygiene, chauvinism, emotional retardation, etc. A lot of that stuff is why I'm more likely to date women irl despite being bisexual, so yeah, male characters written like women are definitely ideal for me. (Ironically pic rel was drawn by a guy but I included it anyway because I like it.)
I really don't feel like I "self insert" when I ship things regardless of the genders of the characters. If I ship two characters, it's because I think they have a funny/interesting dynamic. There aren't any characters in my past past or current OTPs that I would consider similar to myself in any capacity.
No. 118502
>>118485>the stories ostensibly take place in an alternate universe where most men are cuddly and emotionally intelligent. They're basically men minus all the shit women hate about many of them, i.e., poor hygiene, chauvinism, emotional retardation, etc. Well said anon.
I just like watching two cute dudes kiss and fuck tbh. Some people can come out with neat dynamics and interesting stories too.
No. 118559
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Watching the scrotal meltdowns over the pornhub purge makes me grateful I get off to BL / fanfic instead. I don’t got to worry about shit, fujoshit porn is ethnically produce by females for females. doesn’t contribute to human trafficking or real life rape. and even the worst of the worst fans aren’t usually dangerous.
No. 118563
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anyone else shipped these two, Superman x Brainy from Legion of Superheroes, like my god these 2 were super gay and Brainy had such massive bottom energy for superman
No. 118565
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>>118563also Kell-El(an OC created for the show) also had moments with brainy, like I imagine Superman and brainy having tender and sweet sex with cuddling afterwards, but with Kell-El
I just imagine him hatefuking brainy till he can't stand straight No. 118579
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>>118549I dislike those clichés, too (and also I don't ship Deku with anyone because I think he's whiny and boring.) For instance, I don't like anything with overly-prominent seme-uke stuff. I often gravitate towards ships where both characters are verse.
>>118563I've never watched Legion of Superheros, but whatever you do,
do not read the most recent comic reboot of Legion of Superheros. It's unreadable garbage and everyone is ooc.
As an aside, am I a basic bitch for shipping both Superboys with their respective best-friend Robins? The younger ones are easy to ship in a wholesome puppy love way.
No. 118580
>>118559This. Fujo porn is a thousand times more ethical and I absolutely lose my shit when people try to claim that fujos are "just as bad" as men jerking it to Pornhub's teenage stepsister double fisted while choked videos. The only "real threat" that people keep going on about (like that one sperg who constantly revisits thread) is that it "brainwashed girls to become fakebois" which is already a bullshit fallacy confusing correlation with causation as Asian fujos don't troon out en masse. And even that is a more complex societal phenomenon than men breaking their dicks and libido over unlimited access to abuse and exploitation of real, factual women who are already an extremely vulnerable demographic compared to men, especially in terms of sexual abuse.
Seriously, even the fujos with the most degen fetishes I have met are extremely vanilla IRL while there are multiple reports over how young male coomers demand anal, slapping, deepthroating and other extreme shit from their partners to get off. One look at some advice thread in /g/ or vent thread in /ot/ and you see young women complaining about their boyfriends demanding weird sex or not being attentive at all in bed because of their IRL porn addiction. Fuck "anti-fujos" who try to be all faux woke with this "umm you know you're just like pornsick scrotes" crap. I've had enough.
No. 118590
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I wish there were more Dante/Vergil content, it's my guilty pleasure ship.
No. 118592
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>>118591He's not, at least not in canon. He just appears to be in the piece of fanart anon used. The characters are from Devil May Cry.
No. 118598
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>>118591>>118592No, if you're talking about his chest that's how his clothes are in DMC3. He's shirtless in the beginning and you can see he's 100% a guy. The character designer wanted him to look like a sexy pretty boy straight out of a jpop band with "chiseled abs" and yes that's a quote.
No. 118602
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>>118599Fakebois can only wish they looked like a 1m90 tall adonis with pretty white hair. He and Vergil look older in other games though.
No. 118627
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>>118580Wow anon, couldn't have said it better.
People love to scapegoat women for anything they like - from makeup to choice in mangas - and turn a blind eye to the extent of degeneracy in your average male. Even the name "rotten girl" is so demeaning, as if sexual independency was something that "spoils" women. We just don't want to be constantly threatened by male presence, is it really that hard to understand.
No. 118647
>>118633>can't stand anything involving one of them and NeroCoward.
Jokes aside, why are anons so hung up on fictional incest? It's not real.
No. 118655
>>118563Y-yeah. Shame you can't talk about it on
/co/ without anons going:
>W-WELL ACKSHUALLY SUPERMAN WAS MEANT TO BE SHUPERGURL WHICH MAKES IT TOTALLY NOT GAY No. 118703
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I am so angry at the latest chapter of Love or Hate, why is the MC so retarded reeee
No. 118815
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>>118808Are you looking for the game Yakuza? Or just yakuza bara men? I’ve been reading one called Ang Ang and while he isn’t a yakuza he fits the Y0 Kiryu build if you’re into that!
Here’s the link on mangadex I’m sure there’s more updates on other sites but I found it through this scanlation group
https://mangadex.org/title/55657/ang-ang No. 119327
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So this might also belong in the general shipping thread but I'm posting here since this thread is more active and I'm hoping anons could give some insightful replies
so do any anons ship specific versions or interpretations of characters while ignoring their other more canon or well known versions, for e.g I ship Penguin and Riddler from the Gotham series, who are very different physically and lore vise from othet adapations and the mainstream comics, riddler is almost always sort of shlubby and in his 40s, while penguin is always depicted as short, fat, disfigured, ugly and arrogant
The Gotham series gave them more tumblr friendly aesthetic
No. 120691
I just finished watching given and it was really good. It's not NSFW at all but it was a refreshing take on BL.
>>117857Any updates on this? I really hope you find it, anon.
No. 121296
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>>119699Give me recs of the least shitty ones. Preferably at least some awareness of toxicity and not a total glamorization of abuse.
>>120691I have no recommendations since that show is probably the best anime BL I've seen. Afaik season 2 has been in the works but was set back by the pandemic. OT but Yuki was hot as hell, totally my type tbh.
No. 121713
>>121691Yuri is trash and filled with loli schoolgirl scrote-pandering garbage. It's unfortunate but it's just Way easier to find decent BL than GL.
>Is Given worth reading/watchingYes. One of the better written series and has some decent slow burn if you're into that.
No. 121731
>>121691The anime is one of the better BL anime out there and the manga isn't as good.
Given takes place on a planet where literally everyone is gay and the longer the story goes on the more annoying that is.
No. 123806
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Anyone else instantly started shipping these after the game
No. 123830
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>>123818Yes but somehow Yamcha x Frieza seems almost perfect in a way, they work together
Yamcha will praise Frieza and Frieza will love it, also I picture Frieza as a total power bottom
No. 123887
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okay now anons admit your most basic ships that have been done to death but you still love, for me it's bakudeku yes I know I'm a basic bitch
I personally love reformed both Jerk-ass Bakugou, bakudeku ships where there both in a healthy lovey-dovey relationship and the more "toxic" interpretations, really depends on what mood I am
No. 123896
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does anyone know where I can read the Teahouse comic by Emirain? I haven't thought about BL in forever but I remembered how beautiful this comic art was and how much I loved the story. It's about girls and gays working in a fancy brothel with high society clients. It used to be hosted on its own website that must have been closed down. I remember the creators had to stop making the comic and just posted the rest of the story in written form which was really sad.
No. 123898
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>>123896Oh damn, you've just unlocked a long forgotten memory in me anon, I remember being so impressed by every page when I read it as it was coming out on dA! I'll be on a lookout for it too.
No. 123941
>>123938there’s only two episodes of the anime . if you google it you should be able to find links to it . it’s also hosted on porn sites
as for the song . i guess i’ve just heard snippets of it over and over on tiktok and it’s kind of wormed it’s way into my brain to the point where i genuinely enjoy listening to it and the like 7 other character versions of it. lol .
i really want more regular updates for the manga but i agree . there are too many characters. i guess the author wanted to touch on as many yaoi tropes and stock characters as she could
No. 123973
>>123959i really want to know if yuri is actually like a retarded bimbo or if it’s just an act . because there was one scene where he spoke a complete sentence in a normal tone of voice to his stalker. i also find it so funny and cute that his stalker really just does not care or notice that the guy he loves is completely dick hungry and crazy .
sigh i guess we have to wait for updates .
honestly i’m surprised at how many people get so offended by ybc . like it’s so completely absurd there’s no way to take it seriously . i also think it’s nothing compared to the 1837582 billion mangas and manhwas that eroticise rape/pedophilia/ etc
No. 123985
>>123973I think he is kinda normal, in the vacation thing and when they were banging, he did seem at least normal. The armin looking dude's bf, the zen type? Don't really get his deal, so guys keep confessing to him, he bangs them but still is very zen jelly over the ugliest of the bunch, armin dude? Make it make sense asap, i am too invested in finding them annoying haha. Who are your faves, anon? Or least faves
>>123974Thanks anon!
No. 123991
>>123887I fell deep into this ship recently lmao. I love the duality of rough
toxic sex and then fluffy domestic adult roommate life. I ran out of content and started reading dekubaku which also isn’t bad. Damn am I afraid to talk about it outside of anon though.
Old people can’t ship them because it’s “
Problematic and the characters are teens”
No. 123995
>>123991there are many different interpretations of bakudeku, sugarbaby deku x daddy Bakugo, bullied deku x
abusive Bakugo and there's a lot deku x Bakugo but even then the sex is always portrayed rough
and yeah I know there are some top deku interpretations but like 90% of fan content shows Bakugo as the tope
No. 123996
>>123991yes i feel you. i am ashamed to admit i have read haikyuu fanfiction . i try to avoid the really explicit stuff but i really just enjoy reading smutty fanfiction but at the moment all the shows i’m watching revolve around teenagers so it’s a real struggle . i think i need to find more shows with adult ensemble casts to feel better about myself.
the problem is i’m only 21 so in my head i still feel like a teenager (and when i was a teenager i read all sorts of explicit stuff about teenage characters) but now i’m kind of like .. self aware enough to know i shouldn’t do it anymore and i don’t really have any excuses .
No. 123997
>>123985personally i’m really keen to see what happens with yacchan/kashima/toono thing and who toono ends up sleeping with first . i find it really funny how hard toono clings to his heterosexuality
and i wasn’t expecting it but yuri and fujisaki/jimmy (just googled what the stalkers name is lol) are actually kinda adorable together so i’m curious about where they go. i think it would be super funny if they end up having the most wholesome relationship.
as for my favourite character i don’t really have one but i find yacchan to be quite funny and i love when he snaps and yells at toono . also amusing that the va for hinata from haikyuu did him in the anime
No. 124124
I just read a year'sworth of Honto Yajuu and that silly little series is so cute, I love how the other policemen are getting included too!
>>123997Yacchan was a nice surprise, I love a little love triangle so it'll be fun to see! I wanna see him being mean to the minibrows dude who is kinda into him. New chapters pleaaaase.
No. 124142
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Read Stigma if you haven't already.
No. 124229
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Have you ever read through a manga and brushed off the story, only to go back and read it and find out it was the cutest thing ever? Junai Drop Out is that yaoi for me. I randomly decided to read it even though I don’t even like smut for the sake of it being smut, but the story is so oddly sweet. The BDSM aspect is a bit weird but it’s a solid BL. The moe gap is also really cute.
https://exiledrebelsscanlations.com/junai-dropout/I’ve decided to drop Painter of the Night. The story isn’t going anywhere anymore. I prefer ongoing BL webtoons to the occasional volume releases of manga, so I might pick up Banana Scandal now. Is it any good?
No. 124249
>>123887>>123995I kinda find it fascinating how very specific the dynamic of who tops and bottoms in most MHA ships is set, I mean as you said overwhelmingly Deku is the one who bottoms like 9/10 times in fan content, and while you can find top Deku content it's something you'll have to actively look for, while on other hand in most KiriBaku ships, Kirishima is the one who overwhelmingly is the one tops, I mean compare with m/m ships of previous shonen series, Fairy Tail, Naruto and One Piece, most of the top/bottom fan content between main characters were usually 50/50, I mean if even there was one character who was slightly more likely top it wasn't as completely overwhelmingly or set in stone as MHA m/m ship dynamics
you get what I'm saying ?
No. 124317
>>123887The people calling BakuDeku "
toxic" need a brain enema. I don't even feel like explaining myself at this point because it's so stupid, how can you read the manga and
not see how much they actually care about each other?
>>123996>the problem is i’m only 21 so in my head i still feel like a teenager (and when i was a teenager i read all sorts of explicit stuff about teenage characters) but now i’m kind of like .. self aware enough to know i shouldn’t do it anymore and i don’t really have any excuses .Lmao what the fuck, anon please love yourself and cleanse your head of this Twitterfag nonsense. I'm in my 30's and shipping the teenager characters I did when I was 15 and reading smut doujins of them because they're not real and I don't give a shit. If I like the characters and the dynamic I don't care if they're teenagers or adults, I'm going to ship it nevertheless.
No. 124319
>>124317well there's different fan cornet depending on interpretations or preferences, There are Whole baku deku ships, and one's written to deliberately be
Toxic if one's into that
No. 124450
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>>124317I think it's because people refuse to see past the first arc where Bakugou bullied Deku. It's ironic though because the overarching theme of MHA is that people can change(for the good/bad).
or tl;dr people have literal holes in their brains
anyways this fucking cover though am i right
No. 124477
Uh I got no better place to ask, but does anyone know what happened to the bl webtoon Laine? I looked for updates but couldn't find any.
It's like the author dropped off the face of the earth.
>>121311That Anon didn't take you up on the
toxic yandere recs but I sure as hell will! (If you're still around that is). Particularly if you have anything bara.
No. 124487
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After years of not reading any BL, I've recently come back to it. I don't regret a thing.
I just wish that flat-out rape wasn't so fucking coming with BL. A lot of stuff has one person coercing the other into sex (or just flat-out rape) and then they suddenly fall in love and I know it's fantasy and shit but it still feels icky.
Any owholesome recomendations? I don't mind sex, it's just the rape that really dampens my enjoyment.
The cutest one I've read recently is Nomi x Shiba (boys in a boarding school fall in love), but they release like 1 book a year and the 2nd was only released last week…
No. 124547
>>124142Well, I read this. There was a lot of rape. A lot. Not by the "hero" thankfully but damn, at a certain point I stopped reading for any form of plot and just kept hate-reading to get closure hoping the twink would get his happy ending and no more rape. And at the end they didn't even get to
kill the evil fucker? Christ. Smut scenes between the two leads were decent but other than that just too much torture porn
No. 124639
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Some of my wholesome favs that weren't mentioned in thread yet:
- Bokura no Tsuzuki
- Cupid ni Rakurai
- Path to You (stupid western names alert)
- Jazz for Two (art gets better with time, it's pretty awful in first 10 chapters)
- Sugar Dog Life
- Konbini-kun and everything by Junko
No. 124690
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So this is a very obscure m/m ship but it's one I'm very passionate about cause it was one of my first, there's basically no fan content regarding these two but I did write some fan fiction about on wattpad and Deviantart like a decade ago
These two are Baxter Stockman and Agent Bishop from 2004 TMNT Series
So for context Agent Bishop is a morally ambiguous ageless US Government agent/Superweapon, While Baxter Stockman was a genius scientist who worked for the shredder, throughout the series every time he would fuck up and lose against the Turtles or fail an objective, he would beaten and tortured by Shredder off screen with visible damage each time, having his one eye gouged out, having his legs sawed off, eventually mutilated to the point of being a talking brain in a Jar, he gets his body back a couple times but each time it would get destroyed and he'd go back to being Brain in a Jar
but also throughout the series Agent Bishop is the only person who shows Baxter kindness, they even refer to each other as friends and have great banter
No. 124813
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So I just watched "A roundtrip to love" because someone called the pairing toxic, but imho it just turned abusive real quick, which was very disappointing. The first part was so sweet. Anyway, I was a bit shocked that it's very clear that it's a romance between two men, but it's also Chinese? I thought china had banned every form of lgbq-representation from the media?
No. 124851
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Mfw dug up some old af DVDs from the depth of my old room. Lmao I used to hide these, now I’m too nostalgic to throw them out.
No. 124913
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>>123887My basic bitch OTPs are Saiouma and Kawoshin.
Bakudeku is good but I don't like the actual anime much so I can't put it anywhere near OTP category sadly.
No. 124926
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>>124919>Shinji with his own dad Didn’t know this was a thing but I’m not surprised.
>or Shinji selfcestAlready knew about this one though, I’ll say this the fanart of manga Shinji marrying anime Shinji was pretty funny
No. 124936
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>>124934I thought anons here would have heard of Sander Sides, it's very cringy and kinda dumb, so there's this moderately popular gay youtuber named Thomas Sanders and around 2016 or so he started this series called Sander Sides, where he would discuss his own personal issues and experiences though the use of personifications of his personality, literally one note characters representing logic and intelligence or pride and creativity, but it quickly became his most popular series, he later added in "Dark Sides", characters representing dark emotions like "anxiety" or "intrusive thoughts" and for whatever reason people instantly started shipping his personality personifications with each other, they didn't even have names originally, he literally gave them random last minute names
overall it's kinda dumb but not offensively dumb
No. 124949
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>>124936samefag, also the most popular character in the series is by Virgil, a personification of "depression" and "anxiety", which zoomer fujos love
No. 124958
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>>124952don't forget the sanses!
No. 124982
>>124980you think there are just more sans, there are tens of dozens of Undertale AU's
>Underfell>Horrortale >Epictale>AsylumTaleare just some I can think of but the there are way more, each pointlessly detailed and having fan game versions (which are just hacks of Undertale )
No. 125189
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>>124933Sounds like you just need to broaden your horizons. It's appealing to look at.
No. 125218
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>>124142Am I retarded, I read a few chapters of this and I had no idea what was happening the entire time. Was the translation done by someone ESL?
>>124229This shit was lewd as fuck. Honestly wish they fucked less because their dynamic outside of fucking was pretty cute.
>>124124Honto Yajuu is based. Have you read anything else by that manga? I love picrel.
No. 125281
>>125265its been really long since i read it but it sucked
dont remember if there was rape tho
No. 125323
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Do Transformers ship count? cause there's a lot of m/m fujo fan content, and even some m/m comic canon content
No. 125328
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>>125323>tfw Optimus/Jazz will never be popular enough They were made for each other yet everyone ships Jazz with Prowl and Optimus with either Megatron or absolutely anyone else.
Pain and suffering.
No. 125440
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>>125328I don't know what it is but for whatever I rwason only ship Autobots with other Autobots and Decipticons with other Decipticons, except Knockout from Tansformers Prime, I ship him with pretty much eberyone
No. 125728
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>>125719The main couple is pretty stupid and incredibly dense. I still enjoy it but agree and wish they would focus on the other two pairings a bit more.
Picrel is best boy. No. 126047
Started ten count because I remembered anons talking about it and it has the same icky feel to it that Loveless had, still gonna finish it but will not be enjoying much.
>>125728Best yankii boy, hands down.
No. 126078
>>126047What do you mean by that?
I don't really understand what loveless and ten count have in common.
No. 126274
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>>125728I need more yankee's who act like best boy. His relationship is godtier and I'm pissed it didn't just focus on them instead.
No. 126353
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Hello, Green days are a really wholesome read. It's refreshing with some normal paced relationship developments and no rape every once in awhile
No. 126926
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I'm a late bloomer fujo and got into BL only a few years ago, and I have a confession to make. I fucking live for the girly/twinky small bottom and bigger borderline abusive top ship dynamic, fucking love it and I can't get enough of that. It would've been the golden standard 10 years ago but now it's considered problematic and all of the BL I see is based on cutesy schoolboy/college student fluff and repetitive slow burn pining and I can't stand it. I hate it and I don't even know why it makes me so autistically frustrated.
I can't even look for people with similar taste since I'd be branded as a "freak" immediately in this current year twitter wasteland. Please anons someone tell me I'm not the only one and that BL like this still exists.
No. 126927
>>126926you're definitely not alone, anon. plenty of us still enjoy this sort of content. i love fem bottoms and absolutely depraved fucked up shit. don't worry too much.
have you read anything by harada?
No. 126931
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>>126926omg same, a classic but the dynamic is just sexy. I kinda have enough to see some random rants about how bad it is but they should stop reading straight up porn, they're fine with it when it's in a hentai but somehow BL have to be representative of gay couples and that's just wrong.
Pic is related (I'm the samefag who posted it in another thread sme days ago)
That being said I'm still a softie so if the content is fucked up this better be about two attractive hot guys No. 126934
>>126931>tranny flagEvery. Fucking. Time.
How does this fucking logic even work? In hentai it's okay because it's "a legitimate fetish and kinkshaming is bad" but in BL content that's way tamer than your average straight porn it's suddenly brainwashing people into
abusive relationships? The fuck kind of coomer scrote mental gymnastics is this?
No. 126937
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>>126928i feel you. i actually read through all of harada's gintama doujinshi despite not knowing a single thing about gintama just because i trust her taste, lol.
i'm trying to think of other stuff to rec you. a lot of people don't like painter of the night, but it's guilty pleasure porn if you enjoy questionable sex / dub-con / that sort of thing. caste heaven is good for that, too.
i've also been enjoying:
sex suru yori hazukashii koto (taino nikke)
kabukichou bad trip (nagisa eiji)
yankee-kun wa otosaretai (nonda)
No. 126944
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>>126937>>126928If you guys like depravity and Harada, check out Caste Heaven.
No. 126951
>>126937Sex suru yori hazukashii koto was great.
I'm one of the anons that doesn't like rape in BL, but I honestly hate it even more in hentai. In BL, if a story starts out with non-con but they're fine afterwards I honestly don't care as much, whereas if it involves women I'll fucking REEEEE
No. 126955
>>126951personally for me it depends what type of story it is. for example killing stalking (i know it’s not supposed to be a bl but it gets lumped in with them but i digress) the premise of the story is fucked up so i don’t care that there’s rape in it. however it kind of grosses me out when a story that’s supposed to be like normal has rape in it.
it’s not everyone’s preference and i don’t really think it’s harmful to enjoy these types of stories especially as a lot of rape is like from the bottom’s point of view so you know that secretly they kind of enjoy what’s happening (fucked up mindset but whatever) but it’s just weird when there’s rape in an otherwise fluffy and light hearted story . but if the story is intended to be more psychological or dark then i think it’s fine
anyway idk if that made any sense
No. 126973
>>126944My main problem with caste heaven was exactly that, I only cared for the main
abusive couple and thought the others were either annoying or forgettable especially the stupid nerd with glasses.
No. 126974
>>126955I just feel like non-con is often used as a lazy way to establish a coupling and we're just supposed to see it as some romantic starting point.
Just from some I read recently:
"Ore ga suki nado warawaseru" - bottom mounts their asleep/drunk presumed straight friend
"Cosmetic Play Lover" - Top finds out bottom is into a co-worker of theirs, threatens to tell co-worker unless bottom becomes his sex friend
"Sensei no kimochi wo kotae nasai" - Top finds out presumedly straight co-worker goes to prostitutes, blackmails him into sex
The first two would've worked totally fine without the non-con. idk, you can be smutty and have smol bottoms and still have both sides actually consent.
No. 126975
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>>126955>I know it’s not supposed to be a bl but it gets lumped in with them but i digressIt sort of half counts in my opinion, since on some level you’re supposed to ship Bum and Sangwoo together and the author themself ships them so I’d say it’s a mixed genre situation.
No. 126976
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>>126973Same anon, the only scene that I liked with the other couple is the
dubcon foursome. The comic would've been better if they just focused on the main pair. Their dynamic is just so dark and twisted but at the same time, because they're both awful people…you never feel guilty or sorry for them.
No. 126983
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>>126926I love
abusive/rape dynamics in BL, I put the rotten in "rotten girl" and I will never change. There are very many of us around anon, probably not underage and white from NA though lol
No. 127014
>>126983The Okane ga nai manga was unironically based despite the almost comedic size difference. Kanou was great.
>>126998This is probably true, even now you still see people claiming that BL is "only about rape" when you barely see noncon/dubcon themes in it these days. Sex scenes still exist but they always show safe sex stuff like prepping and condoms which doesn't really bother me but it's still a bit silly. Sometimes I tinfoil that the whole omegaverse genre was created just to go around this.
No. 127052
>>127014correct me if I´m wrong
actually, don't, I don't want to know if it's not true but I remember reading that the ABO-universe was created in the supernatural kink meme prompt
No. 127058
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>>126928>>126937Asada Nemui has also done some fucked up ones, plus I love the art. Not the same kind of fucked up, the couple usually gets a good ending (usually).
No. 127079
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>>127058Not the other anon but I really like Asada Nemui too. I’ve seen a lot of comments with people calling her a guilty pleasure but there’s a lot of variety with her stories
No. 127098
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>>127054Sometimes I sit and think about how an entire mpreg wolf cock universe has reached Japanese manga in popularity, so fujos could avoid the “logical” route of just making them ftm, kek
No. 127155
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>>127011I wanna know too! Kubaaaa <3
No. 127156
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>>127155Samefag the crossdresser was hot too lol
No. 127239
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Anyone watching Sk8?
No. 127321
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>>127239YES anon! I love how touchy adam is!
No. 127327
>>127321Same, the tension was so high in that last episode that I just want them to twirl around like that again
>>127325Miya is so good too!
No. 127330
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Shujos and Fujos unite with "I Became a Kuro-Gyaru"
>The "gender-swap romantic comedy" centers around Shion Chihara and Rui Chihaya, two tight college friends who are unrivaled in picking up women. One day, Shion is given a drug by a mysterious woman and wakes up in a woman's body. It was love at first sight for Rui, despite not initially realizing that this woman before him is actually his best friend Shion.
Not really spoilers but the guy turns back and forth from boy to girl, and he gets fucked in either form by the other guy, so its both BL and Hetro at the same time
No. 127334
>>127330I actually really enjoyed this. The lesbian in me thought the girl version was a really cute tomboy and the fujo in me liked the BL aspect.
>>127331??
No. 127345
>>127341Genderswap = Tranny shit
TIL lmao
No. 127352
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>>127330Yeahhhh I totally read BL to see shit like this.
>a woman's body feels about ten times better than a man'sNot AGP shit btw
Try to be more subtle with your samefagging
No. 127353
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>>127352I'm not gonna go on anymore about this really, but do you really think an AGP would read this? They fuck as dudes too.
No. 127359
>>127330Yawn, these "genderswap" plots are bordering on self insert otomecuckery or some bihet scrote fantasy tbh. It's either gay or nothing anon, I'm not dealing with this "it's gay.. but straight!" plotline.
>>127352Oh yes, big anime tits and straight sex. Totally what I'm looking for. Why is this being shilled as "BL" again?
No. 127375
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>>127364I liked it, but I can get why you guys wouldn't.
>>127079I checked out Dear My God and it was really great, gave me similar vibes as Harada like you said but not quite as grim. Her art is really fantastic and the priest character was based.
No. 127476
>>127330>>127364Lmfao I can totally see a slimy moid trying to slither into some fujo's DMs under this guise.
>Look I love "I became kuro gyaru", that's BL right?! A guy fucking a big titty gyaru girl for 90% of the time? BL? Right? I'm open minded see!It's not like there aren't a billion hentai series about some guy magically turning into a girl and being fucked as one, it's not revolutionary and doesn't belong under the BL genre. I guess otomefags would like this by self-inserting into the girl but I find it hard to believe any fujo would glance twice at something that has covers centering around grabbing the female lead's half naked tits. Flipping through the pages it's just het sex from start to finish wtf.
No. 127513
>>127476>>127330Well this got me thinking, has there ever been a BL story that had one of the characters being formally female ? like Japan has a fairly high amount of FTMs(its one of the few countries where FTMs outnumber MTFs) and you would think there'd be more Genderbent BL stories
Also anon no need to create tension with oteme readers, I mean I like both but some fujos seem to have a kinda petty hatred towards otome readers when there really shouldn't be
No. 127527
>>127513…Why would a BL story have straight romances? It would just be a heterosexual couple, not BL. Are you high?
Also otomefags are the ones who always look down their noses on fujos and flip their shit over them shipping their precious husband with another male character so get out with that
No. 127553
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Okay, so which one of you nerds is gonna pull us up the scans for this baby
No. 127555
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>>127553Ohhhh I love this one! Buff boys in feminine clothing count me in! Tho I don't really like the mc and his friend.
It's on mangago, called Reiwa Hanamaru Gakuen.
No. 127634
>>126926I absolutely live for fucked up dynamics and love non-con anon. Most of what I consume nowadays is a/b/o shit since non-con is so rampant and the dynamics are always imbalanced, it's great. I especially love mouthy, stubborn, small bottoms who get put in their place by an equally stubborn and strong top lmao. I'm quiet about it irl because a lot of my friends strictly enjoy fluff but I'm reading BL half the time to get off, so just give me dirty smut. I don't have recs unfortunately, all the things I like have already been recommended by above anons. It's annoying when twitterfags think enjoying a fucked up relationship dynamic in fiction means I support
abusive relationships irl. All I am in real life is boring and vanilla, let me enjoy some fucked up shit in the safety of fiction!
No. 127728
>>127634What does it say about me that I'm more repulsed by your interest in A/B/O than I am by your rape fetish? Like I can deal with the dubcon but A/B/O is cringey and gross and basically just turns slash couples into heterosexual quasi-furries. What's the point of gay shipping if you're just going to ostensibly make one character into a woman anyway? Also, the wolf """science""" it's based off of has been debunked; the "alphas" are just the parents of the other wolves. You're free to like it, but people are also free to shame you for your autistic kink.
This thread is being ruined by shit like
>>127330 and A/B/O. Apparently Supernatural is where A/B/O comes from, eugh. Superwholock was a crime against good taste.
No. 127745
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>>127742They can get pregnant and self-lubricate, and that's to say nothing of all the exaggerated, negative female stereotypes you see projected on them: being overly emotional, always sexually submissive, being physically weak, being viewed as "prey," etc. Like I said, it's just an fantasy and you're entitled to liking it, but I'm also entitled to judge you and wonder if you have some sort of deep-seated psychological issues.
>>127729You're not wrong about BDSM being somewhat common in yaoi. I can't be certain because I generally try to avoid BDSM stuff, so I'm just going off on the covers I see while browsing manga sites, and I'd say about a quarter to a third of them have BDSM. However, I think BDSM is common in hentai overall.
I've definitely noticed a decline in the prevalence of seme-uke archetypes in recent years. It's still usually the case that one guy always bottoms, but the personality and design stereotypes associated with that status have fallen out of favor. Pic related is an example of that; the guy on the left is actually the bottom.
No. 127752
>>127747The one on the left is stoic and shy, and the guy on the right is tsundere, if that helps lol.
The manga is kind of meh. It's all over the place tonally. It starts off silly, gets really dark, then goes back to being silly. There's a part in the middle where
the Yakuza kidnap and horrifically rape the blond one, and the brunette one rescues him? So yeah. Definitely not one of my favorites, I just wanted to use the characters as an example.
No. 127768
>>127757Except they're writing about male characters with dicks. Submissiveness, magic lube and mpreg doesn't make a character female, a vagina does. If they write ABO with vaginal sex then sure, it's not BL, but that's not usually the case.
People are so OTT about ABO, it's obvious the main appeal is the scent and heat aspects rather than pseudo female biology. Writers always focus on the intensity and sexual tension of characters suddenly being desperate to fuck because the other smells good, it's hardly worth clutching your pearls over.
No. 127771
>>127768Not to be pedantic, but if mpreg involves the guy getting pregnant through his butt and pushing a baby out of his butt (vomit) doesn't that just make it a vagina? Or a cloaca, I guess, since they apparently poop and give birth from the same hole.
See, this shit is why I'm not into this nonsense. Nothing about any of that is even remotely sexy to me, just horrifying and gross.
No. 127777
Bitches in this thread screeching about ABOfags and then sleep on posts like this
>>127562 and
>>127568 . Where's repuchan when you need her
>>127745To be fair in the example you posted they're both qualifying as bottoms and Asa (the guy on the right) gets fucked
and gangraped too.
The discourse about "ree the omega in ABO is a misogynistic stand-in for a woman" is just as retarded as the "girls self-insert into the girly uke" one. It stinks of people projecting their own insecurities into fiction.
No. 127778
>>127774They can have what they want, whatever makes them happy. I just don't know if it even counts as boys' love. Seems like we're stretching the definition of "boy" pretty far here.
>>127776Admittedly I haven't, you got me lol. I avoid that shit like the plague. Although I think I saw a drawing of a guy pushing a baby through his dickhole in the awful art thread once.
No. 127780
>>127777Honestly at some point you have to admit that this isn't right, I read doujins where Joker from Persona gets gang raped and even I think A/O is disgusting
You can't say that "Omegas" are male in any right, I don't know how much of a degenerate you have to be execuse this shit
No. 127787
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Lol no matter how much ABO is retarded, can we all agree that dom/sub universe is much worse.
Manga is "Zettai, Fukujuu Meirei".
No. 127793
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>>127776nta the only abo BL I read this is what happened looool. I don’t know if any anons here have read Love Is An Illusion, but that was some of the shittiest coparenting I’ve ever fucking seen. I hated both of them. Seme rapes uke, gets uke pregnant, uke has a breakdown because he thought he was an alpha, tried to exploit seme over the pregnancy, and fails and they end up together. I promise this isn’t even a spoiler, it’s like the first chapter KEK. I have to agree with
>>127787 though, dom/sub universe somehow manages to be worse without the shat out babies.
No. 127794
>>127793>>127789They're both cringe.
>>127793That sounds incredibly stupid.
No. 127798
>>127797>>127793>>127787Literally when even is the need for this, Im into some very violent/kinky m/m stories that I would never keep in my home or open bookmarks(I have kids)
But this shit feels scrote tier in terms of degeneracy, I feel with men getting pregnant and the sub/Dom thing you open a can of worms that need not be opened
I mean what's wrong with seme/uke or even gang rape doujins
No. 127830
>>127797Ot but i like how i always can tell which posts are yours with the space before full stop. A/b/o is furry cringe though
>>127793This shit was just bad, I generally dislike korean bl, there's always just something off. Can anyone recommend a good korean bl?
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>>127793I read it because I thought the baby was cute
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>>127836Does suicide boy count?
also I don’t mind killing stalking No. 127854
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>>127830I think this is korean, it is called "One Take". It's shounen-ai and there hasn't been much romance yet (17 chapters translated), but I kinda enjoy the premise and it keeps me interested enough to keep waiting for the updates.
No. 127881
>>127878Sorry for going off-topic, but it makes me think, maybe it's cultural thing, I always got the feeling that the whole dating culture in korea was quite superficial (couple outfits, photos, gestures, etc.). While it looks very sweet and cute at the same time gives off artificial vibe as if everything must be aesthetic and drama-like.
That said, I'm mostly talking about what is presented in social media and I might be talking complete bull-shit so take it with grain of salt.
No. 127891
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Are we finally discussing omegaverse in this thread?
I like the ones that lean into the 'fated pair' concept. My favorites were Sayonara Alpha and Shounen No Kyoukai. I can't handle the mpreg shit but there's aspects of abo that are interesting when done well.
I also enjoy Megumi and Tsugumi they're just very cute.
No. 127892
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>>127890Its "Happy Shitty life" by Harada, its about two straight-ish guys who like anal. It;s funny af.
>>127891Ahh! that is one of my fav couples, the parents story is so cute too!
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>>127830ata, off the top of my head I recommend Sign and Make Me Sweat/Don’t Drop The Soap. MMS is straight up pornhwa but Sign is silly and cute as fuck at the same time. My favorite Korean BL. I’ve reread it twice. It even has heartwarming moments. Uke is a broke unemployment scrub who can’t get up who lands a miracle job at the seme’s cafe. The problem? The seme is deaf, and since the uke can’t sign, when the seme has to speak his voice is so sexy it makes the uke horny KEK
and for some reason the uke signing makes the seme horny LMFAOBanana Secret is also not bad. I didn’t like it personally because the romance was between a guy and his friend’s younger brother at uni, the younger guy was the uke but also a whiny clingy loser. But it’s not bad.
No. 127910
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>>127757as someone who has also been reading BL for almost two decades, i can attest that if two characters have penises and look like men, it's BL. i dislike A/B/O but still consider it BL. dumbass.
>>127783>>127780check out monao. i like kirimoto, but monao is even better. GELZE is pretty good, too.
>>127892god, these two are so hot. probably my favorite harada manga besides nii-chan, lol. it's so bizarre.
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Not sure why it feels like weird racebait to criticize kr webtoons for their plots but I will also be the first to say there aren't any standouts like in the jp BL industry. It's likely because it's way younger/smaller market/webtoons are already made with pocket change and prefilled backgrounds optimized for phones. Also a lot of the TLs are hideous so if you're reading them in English there's a lot of errors or awkward/stilted lines. I liked pic related though because the art was actually good for a webtoon. Love or hate is another that looks good but it's too soapy. Painter of the night started fun but now it's dragging.
No. 127958
>>127910Another anon but I loved Nii-chan, I could read it again and again. Harada has so many great series with amazing writing I have a hard time deciding what's my favourite, but I'd have to say Yatamomo is the most iconic one.
>>127934It's not a racebait, it's just a matter of taste. To me in Korean webtoons the characters are always more focused with looking attractive/composed than being relatable, it makes it feel very cold and artificial. But some people prefer it that way since it feels "safer" and consider Japanese BL to be full of
abusive dickheads since the characters are often written to be much more emotional. Kboos just can't stand their oppa being disliked.
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>>127944nta but this sounds kind of retarded to me. Not you, but the explanation. I think it’s probably more like these women writing these BL don’t give too much of a fuck as long as it’s sexy enough (almost every popular kr BL as far as the fujo community goes is NSFW?) at least that’s what I’ve gathered from the mementos left in the final chapters. They seem to be on crazy time crunches and trying to work out the relationships while the webtoon is being released, which is why it can be pretty to look at but lacking in substance.
This webtoon isn’t abo but it seems like they will introduce abo elements to it. My Purrrfect Boss. MC is a seme human who finds out his anal boss is some sort of feline demi-human, and also a light tsundere type of uke. Gets a crush on him, they get together. It’s cute.
Unrelated to abo, I can’t recall the title of a BL where a university student needs to find a place to stay, and by chance meets an eclectic and mysterious world renowned young novelist who lets him stay with him. The novelist is the author of his favorite book. A keep detail was that there was 1 closed room the student was not allowed to enter, it caused him great distress. Spoilers, it turns out
they were childhood friends, and the student was from an orphanage but had to leave the town and never met the novelist again. It was implied the house was haunted. The house also caused the student nightmares about hands crawling out of the mystery room. I think that’s where the author’s parents used to sleep, and they were abusive. No. 127960
>>127958 Ngl, I'd say the emotionally
abusive guys (JP BL) died out for the most part. I find more of them in Korean BL than Japanese if I'm being honest. But righto, kboos really can't stand hyungie being disliked.
No. 127962
>>127958Samfagging but I want to add that the photobashed BGs in Korean webtoons always look like silly minecraft buildings, the art is always subpar with severely flawed anatomy and poses that look traced from 3D models or other artwork. I get that they're under time constraints and need to cut corners with everything but it's distracting and stops me from focusing on the comic itself.
Unrelated to the actual comics but something that also affects my experience, because there aren't enough skilled Korean to English translators the English is always awkward and makes no sense. Maybe if the same writing was given to someone who would do a better job art-wise it would work better.
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>>127958I think a good comparison to make is that Japanese BL lean towards being more emotionally indulgent while Korean BL are stronger in characters being uncaring (or caring) in a normal way. As if the Korean BL characters are being written with the idea that they could be real people, so reasonably they’d have to do this and this and this, even if that means playing games and looking autistically cold. While Japanese BL writers make adult men do retarded over emotional shit and cry while they cum. I like BL from both countries though, and I really love how you can always count on the webtoons to be nicely colored and the mangas to be full of details.
Red Candy is kind of fucked up, but it’s enjoyable. Uke is a spy who feigns being the amnesiac seme’s lover in order to get his hands on some important files. It’s fucked up because
the spy wasn’t gay (or didn’t know he was) but took it up the ass for the sake of playing a character. And iirc it was actually the seme’s first time as well, but he thought they were “supposed” to have sex so he did it. So it wasn’t a typical yaoi rape thing, just an unfortunate situation lmfao No. 127966
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does anyone else here not really enjoy bdsm in bl? don’t get me wrong i enjoy bdsm aspects in a story if it’s kind of like inherent to the dynamic of the couple and comes naturally but stories where one character is like actually a professional dom and all the bdsm terminology is used (safe words etc) kinda make me cringe.
i side eye a lot of bdsm in real life because i think that there’s something inherently wrong with you if you enjoy hurting other people so i guess it’s ironic that in bls i prefer it when the bdsm naturally occurs and isn’t really discussed over more scripted and planned bdsm scenes even though technically the latter is “healthier”
No. 127967
>>127963For some reason it's super creepy looking. I wish they didn't make BGs at all or had them stay monochrome, it's so weird to see this fully rendered but flat as a cardboard background that's obviously traced from a freebie 3D model scenery.
>>127966BDSM makes me physically cringe in real life and embarrasses me to no end and I would absolutely never try it but in BL I love it even when it's borderline rape. I don't really think about all that "but what if IRL" stuff because it's ultimately detached from reality and happening in a constrained, fictional space between characters that don't exist.
No. 127969
>>127966>all the bdsm terminology is used (safe words etc) kinda make me cringe. Absolutely. I dislike BDSM in real life because it's
abusive and gross, but I also hate the sanitized fictional version that women write (probably applies more to western fanfic than actual BL manga), where everything is ~safe sane and consensual~ and it's full of BDSM lingo and weird negotiation like signing contracts with kink approval lists. It's cringy and embarrassing, it's simply not hot at all to be so calculated and systematic about sex. Normal, natural sex and enjoyment of the human body without any forced kinkiness >>>>
No. 127972
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>>127966It’s probably my own fault for not exploring enough, but nearly every one I’ve read felt way too extreme for me. I prefer my BL’s to be on the sweeter side, the second to last I tried to read they were pretty violent but it had the bdsm tag. The guys were getting kicked around, choked, even punched and cigarettes were put out on tongues etc. on top of the characters having massive hate boners and the main character having a shitty life. Lmfao it was just waaay too much for me. Maybe you’d like it though, it was called Legs That Won’t Walk. The art is a bit inconsistent. The last bdsm BL I read though was good, it’s called Junai Drop Out. Anon earlier itt recommended it and it was perfect tbh.
No. 127976
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Has anyone here read Samurai Lover (pic related)? It's a nice, short little story and it's really cute.
>>127966Generally agree, yeah. I don't hate BDSM; if it happens to be in a manga I like for other reasons, I'll tolerate it, but I don't go out of my way to find it.
I'm really vanilla and Western in terms of what I like. I prefer more naturalistic or unique art styles, minimal seme-uke clichés, and stories with little or no kink. I'll also read bara if it's tame, and I also like stuff that isn't BL genre-wise but happens to include gay characters.
>>127934It's not racebait. You're allowed to make generalizations about how different cultures depict romance. Much like with BDSM, I don't go out of my way to read manhwas, but if someone recommends one to me and I like the art or premise, I'll try it. I generally stick to Western and Japanese stuff, though.
>>127896I'm more willing to put up with weirdness in Harada's work because I like her art style. If it weren't for the art, I probably wouldn't read her stuff because it's got some kinks and writing choices that I'm not into.
No. 127985
>>127965Personally, BL content in general feels like it's written by autistic straight women who've either never had sex or are just really vanilla irl.
kinda like how most ecchi/hentai screams "this was written by some crusty incel" Sometimes you get gold, but most of the time it feels like you're reading one of those trashy romance novels you find at a thrift store just with cute art.
No. 127991
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>>127985this is why it bothers me when people expect beautiful lgbt rep in bl. wrong place. either accept it or leave is what i feel like saying to these ppl
like this review of ten count on goodreads
sigh No. 128004
>>127989Have you ever met a IRL gay man, they are most annoying and disgusting human group in the world, even the way they talk makes me irrationally angry, the males in BL even the unlikeable ones are more tolerable and entertaining
I feel like aidens transition to yaoi boys don't have that distinction and confuse BL tropes with real life make homosexuality not realizing that real gay men are even more disgusting then straight men
No. 128008
>>128004 Genuinely though, not that homosexuality itself is bad but men themselves are shit. Modern gay men are even worse because they don't act like normal, genuine humans. If we wanted BL written like actual modern gay men, we'd get a language of tongue clicks, absolute degeneracy, shit filled assholes, and dollar store wigs.
>>127985 Sounds like BDSM degeneracy brainwashing
No. 128025
>>127986>>128004>>128008I strongly get the impression you guys haven't actually had more than passing interactions with gay guys IRL, if it all. The gay and bi men I've been acquainted with were all ordinary guys. The only "sassy" one I've met was way back in high school theater. High femme gay guys are common on TV and online, but rare IRL. Most gay men are only slightly effeminate, or not effeminate at all.
Also, what gay guys do sexually with each other IRL isn't any of my business. So long as everybody's a consenting adults, I don't care what they do.
>>128024Seconding this; this probably isn't the right thread for this topic. Gay guys obviously aren't exempt from the personality problems guys often have, but that's not really a conversation we need to be having in a space where almost everything is written by and for women anyway.
No. 128040
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>>127848Asa is the big jackass, Yoru is the pathetic pretty boy. I despise Asa but Yoru is really cute in the sequel series. I’m conflicted, wish he was with the gangster big brother instead.
No. 128048
>>128040You're right, anon. I don't know what it is but I never remember any of the names of the boys in the countless slew of BL manga I consume.
I always wondered what Yoru sees in Asa. He could do so much better in terms of…everything. Asa was just a gigantic turd. Usually the asshole seme has money or looks or… a good personality. Asa was none of those things.
No. 128100
>>128051It's a man thing, not a gay guy thing. I've definitely seen straight guys overshare about hookups.
>>128073People do talk about kink in advance, but it's usually in a more passive "hey, do you want to try this sometime," way. They don't have long negotiations about it like characters sometimes do in fic kek.
No. 128168
>>128053Man that’s so sad lmao
Fujoshi: explicitly has to spell out consent multiple times and ensure language is clear. Still gets cancelled
George RR Martin: full on graphic non con violent sex scenes - best seller, adapted into live action, on the shelves of every major retailer - beloved writer
Literally can’t have shit in this house
No. 128169
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people on tiktok are actually retarded
No. 128170
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I love Chongtak's manga, it has everything I love - older men, masculine, non-typical ukes, nice art and interesting stories. The way she draws men is so good.
No. 128185
>>128170This must be destiny, I was just about to ask for recommantions for mangekas who draw with more realistic propertions but arent like bara-tier
Thank you Athena
No. 128224
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I kept thinking Painter of the Night was a different manhwa (it involved a painting and something about a murder) but I couldn’t get into that one. I like POTN though. I have degenerate tastes, sorry.
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>>128224i recently caught up with it and lost interest. i want more gratuitous sex, not whatever thin plot the author's conjured up lol.
nakyum has the best faces, though.
No. 128257
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>>128048I guess it’s kind of up Harada’s alley, though. And admittedly he becomes much nicer to Yoru
like protecting him from a knife and suchin the sequel but I still don’t like him.
No. 128436
>>128329I love BL about
toxic homophobic guys
No. 129018
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does anyone like hannigram/hannibal? i just finished watching the show and i'm obsessed.
No. 129021
>>129019they absolutely are.
i'm so glad there's so much fan content out there for them. i'm not used to this with the fandom i'm apart of
>>129020huh, i figured he sounded like that because he was danish. while i needed subtitles to understand what mads mikkelsen was saying when watching hannibal, it's a great show indeed.
No. 129030
>>129018Yes, this couple is my OTP. I never got the allure of fangirling over “ships” until Hannigram. I don’t hang out in fandom spaces or anything but they’re just low key my everything. (And yes I know it’s
abusive but like… all the BEST parts of abuse lol with the obsession and the lust and realization of one another’s darkest desires.)
No. 129184
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>>129033Lol, Japanese fans discovered the show (it's yaoi bait) so a lot of 2D content started showing up on pixiv.
No. 129309
>>129210Girl, get on pixiv, it's a treasure trove for this ship. I think the artist may have deleted it, it was part of a set and I can't find it in their gallery, sadly.
This is the artist:
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/176450 No. 129556
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Lately I'm really into Sato Tsubame. Not sure her works have scans/translations available online. Her stories usually revolve around salarymen (so suits) and are pretty slow burn, I love it.
No. 130093
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>>130074In terms of live action BL content I have only ever enjoyed Chinese historical or Chinese Fantasy ones, I feel many chinese men have this etherial beauty thats very close to the 90s bishounen aesthetic, plus the clothing and Long hair is also cool as hell
No. 130117
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>>130111Fun historical fact in aincent times pretty much all Chinese men kept their hair long and never cut it as it was considered disrespectful to your ancestors to cut your hair according to confusion teachings, there were many diverse styles and fashions that Chinese men used for their long hair, however under the Qing dynasty all men had to shave the front of their heads and tie the back portion in a ugly Queue
No. 130119
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>>130117Damn my sympathies to the Qing dynasty ladies, that is an unfortunate style.
Could be worse though, Japan had some truly heinous looks. Assuming it was just a widespread cope for guys with receeding hairlines tbh.
No. 130133
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Anyone else stop reading suicide boy, it was definitely my favorite korean series but it got stale very fast, it's just the same thing over and over again and the artstyle got way more coomerish, such a shame really
No. 130185
>>130176depends on what you're looking for ? Chinese historical and fantasy bl stories or stories set in contemporary/near-contemporary dance (20th and 21st Century) cause these 2 are radically different
With the contemporary stories you're not gonna find anything unique that you won't in Korean or Japanese one's, I should clarify that they aren't bad some indivisiual ones can be pretty good but nothing unique, the Chinese historical and fantasy bl genre however is the far more devolped and more popular compared to the contemporary stories
No. 130196
>>130191The artstyle changed from "I can't believe a man could draw like this" to "only a man could draw like this"
Like originally the characters had this cute slight chubbyness but now he draws them with female hentai character propeetions, it's just sad to see such a potentially great series wasted
No. 130307
>>130242Phew then I'm glad im not the only one who doesn't like Thai stuff. Their series always get so much attention though, I don't get it. Manner of Death is so goofy.
also, "Pornographer" was Japanese and I thought it was decent, you may wanna give the first episode a go and see if you like it. It's not fluffy like Cherry Magic though.
No. 130313
>>130189The untamed goat
Im also really excited for the 2ha adaption (immortality)
No. 130355
>>130307Yeah Thai BL live action dramas sort of really suck. I watched some popular Thai GL movies before I saw the BLs and they were actually enjoyable, so the difference was really apparent. Granted, movies and dramas are bound to be different, especially webdramas. But I think the key factor is the popular formula and tropes used in the storylines. The BL dramas read like a wattpad novice crackfic that takes itself seriously if put on paper. The acting and production quality doesn’t help, like other anons pointed out. Perhaps because of the popularity of the genre, we’re seeing producers churning out whatever they can since this is a chance for many more people to get their ideas out there.
I noticed if you check on youtube there’s a lot of Korean BL webdramas these days, but a lot of it is about high schoolers and some even include the main character’s love interest in question actually being played by an actress. It’s a mixed bag, usually not that good to me but there’s some interesting ones if you look around. The only one I really like though is The Boy Next Door from Dingo studios and it’s not even a full BL, it’s more “bromance”y but really entertaining.
No. 130362
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>>130355samefagging dropped pic and forgot to mention my favorite BL Thai movie, The Love of Siam. Mario Maurer was so cute in it! Lol Might be nostalgia overhyping it but I recommend it to anyone here who wants to pass the time with something to watch or is interested in Thai BL. It’s better than what current BL drama trends are churning out too.
No. 130373
>>130355>include the main character’s love interest in question actually being played by an actress. For real ? reminds me of those IRL yaoi magazines I saw one time, basically women with realistic fake strap on penises, muscle suits and wigs having sex with each other
It was absolutely cursed and I don't know who would even be into that
No. 130376
>>130373yes kek it’s super fluff, also the song at the end is a decade old meme that indicates gay romance.
This is the channel that has the same actress act in gl, bl, and hl scenarios.
No. 130449
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anyone here watching sk8 the infinity? i’m so impatient for episode 9 to come out because i want to know if they’re going to make langa/reki canon. i don’t want to get my hopes up though as much as episode 8 seems to be baiting us
No. 130450
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>>130449i really doubt they will explicitly say if the ship is canon, anon. maybe they'll just leave hints here and there but nowhere near to indicate that it is what most fans are hoping for, though. it'd be cool if they were.
the writer or director of the show had worked with free, yoi, and banana fish, so let's not exactly get our hopes up but we should also at least expect some kind of, idk, 'evidence' to any pairing in the show to be in some way canon.
No. 130455
>>130450this poster reminds me of genderbent
dirty pair a lil. i might give this a watch then.
No. 130503
>>130465i've heard that they weren't allowed to film the kiss scenes with the two leads actors because it wasn't in their contract.they are quite popular and gay kiss could "ruin" their image, so yeah, basically homophobic policy.
but it's infuriating, especially since the second couple (which was awful btw)got better treatment.
No. 130677
>>130503Yeah, it's very unfortunate, but Japan is still stuck in the old ways in many regards.
But tbh, I read the Cherry Magic manga as well and don't get why it got popular. The story is dull and the art style is boring.
No. 130771
>>130765I automatically assume whoever can purchase goods online do it for themselves and have their own card and bank account, so they have to be an adult. A shit ton of teenage girls buy BL manga in book stores and nobody gives a shit anyway.
The online bookstore I mentioned just receive packages, check to see if the books are in good condition, pay the people who sent the books for what they're worth, and then put the books on their website for sale. I made a lot more money than I thought way faster than if I just sold that shit myself on Vinted or any other similar website. This one also accepts DVDs, blu-rays, CD, video games, etc. so I sold a few anime DVDs for very cheap because I don't feel like watching these 90s anime for the 10th time.
No. 131145
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>>130449I've joined the suffering.
The Sk8ffering. No. 131199
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KiriBaku is the superior MHA ship and no one can change my mind, they work better in literally every conceivable way
No. 131203
>>131199Sorry
nonnie but I will never understand how people ship KiriBaku over BakuDeku. Like the latter's right there up for grabs with tons of lore while the former's basically a crack ship
No. 131204
>>131203Its about variety and aesthetic, you can't do much with deku and bakugou, the ship dynamic is always Dom daddy Bakugou with uwu soft Deku, unless you fundamentally change the characters its how their ship always ends up
Kirishima and bakugou have a more balanced relationship, more moments of bonding and aesthetically they work together better
No. 131308
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>>131199Bakudeku is better sorry.
No. 131341
>>131308See bakudeku fags keep saying that but you never provide any
valid points or arguments
No. 131343
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>>131199>>131203>>131204>>131341Cringe BNHAfags thinking they're any superior to the other.
Shounenshit is still shit. No. 131345
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So I bought "Two sides of the same coin" because the cover looked nice.
>Top: uni student who just wanted his father's attention all his life
>Bottom: pro boxer who is into pain
Sounds good.
>Bottom also gets fucked by top's father for money.
Okay.
>Turns out they're half-brothers.
Wait a –
>Bottom was getting fucked by his own father
What –
>He uses the money for his mother's mental care, the father had driven her to attempting suicide
But –
>Top fucks bottom and calls him nii-san.
Can we not.
I want cute fluff with a little smut, not half-brothers fucking and getting off to their being related.
No. 131354
>>131349Digital. I actually read through the summary and read the free pages of both volumes. That shit wasn't in there.
Here's the summary translated through DeepL:
>Yuji is a university student who witnesses his dominant father having an affair. He pretends not to see it, but bumps into a beautiful silver-haired boxer named Ko. As an apology, Koh takes Yuji's lips from his. He thought he would never see him again, but ……. But when he finds himself alone with Ko in a hotel room, he is told, "I get a boner when I'm in pain. He's both strong and weak, but Yuji is inexplicably drawn to Ko. He is his father's XX, but … No. 131356
>>131354anon im crying. "i get a boner when im in pain"
but that sucks, can you get a refund or anything? this could have been such a nice story too. boxer bl stories always end up being the weirdest/kinkiest stuff…
on a positive note the art looks pretty.
No. 131367
>>131365I haven't read many sports bl other than fighting ones (and technically yuri on ice?) and so many of them have some money related sex debt thing going on. It sucks cause I just want a cute fluff bl with buzzcut haired dudes.
On another note, has anyone else read Chouto to Hana? I'm still salty no one has translated the other/side volumes and its marked as complete.
No. 131373
>>131369on the note of doujinshis. am i the only one who reads doujinshis of manga that i havent read the original of? (please no hate) for example, ive read bnha doujinshis but havent actually read bnha.
my thirst for buzzcut dudes cannot be satiated with fanfiction tho. do you read fanfiction of hajime no ippo or doujinshis?
No. 131379
>>131375I do that with naruto too. I've read some really good naruto fanfics and only know the basics of each character. I think some it stems from underdeveloped characters in the original series or knowing the general premise of a series but not being interested enough to watch however many episodes. I've done this with stuff like Overwatch, never played the game but know the basic lore and read a lot of fanfics. I also tend to ship characters based on features I like rather than their relationship in the original tbf.
Also, since I don't follow the originals, it's so much easier to like crackships and stuff based on good storytelling. I've read some great bakudeku, kiribaku, and yes todobaku doujinshis because the story itself was really compelling.
No. 131382
>>131376Genuinely fucked up on Anno's part. Just a hideously dick move. I'm not really surprised though. He has always had open contempt for the fans. Obviously Kaworu x Shinji wasn't going to become canon gay. But there wasn't any doubt they shared platonic love based on the writing before now.
Comparing him to Gendo is just wow Mari is the most random unwanted character ever.
No. 131388
>>131376I don't want to unspoiler this because I want to see the movie myself whenever it comes out internationally but just the last sentence made me mad. Mari is a stupid waifupandering bitch that shouldn't exist, she better not be fucking with my gay mecha pilot ship.
Oh well, I didn't really like the rebuild movies anyway. Literally the only good thing about them were the KawoShin moments which didn't even last long.
No. 131391
>>131379i feel the same way with naruto, anon. especially with how long the show has been running the amount of episode to catch up too and especially the fillers makes me turned off from indulging it. I haven't read any overwatch doujinshis and fanfics though.
also, with bnha (and applicable to anything else), i tend to gravitate character with relationship dynamics that i find interesting in the show than appearances. i usually read bakudeku and even todobaku (i really enjoy this pairing tbh, i find it funny for some reason, it sucks that it isn't really popular or don't have lots of fics and doujinshi about the pairing.)
No. 131397
>>131394i tried reading and watching bnha but i could never get past certain episodes and chapters. there's a lot of characters i really don't care about. I'm only interested in the todoroki family drama that's going on in the manga but other than that, meh. i'd probaby read it just for endeavour and bakugo though, someday.
>>131395i was never interested in that typical dynamic anon. i usually read bakudeku fics that explore their bully and being bullied type of relationship, i really enjoy reading bakugous insecurity and how he deals with not actually being the number one in highschool when he's being treated and pampered as such from before. the fact he's been getting kidnapped, getting taken as hostage and was humiliated and that could result with more aggression in his personality or attitude. i also enjoy the twisted idolisation deku has over bakugou and how that could (for the ship) evolved into infatuation despite treated horrible throughout their years of friendship. I really, really hate that dom daddy (ew) seme and cutesy uke is so prevalent in this ship when their original dynamic is interesting to begin with and have a lot of ways to explore it.
No. 131399
>>131390>tfw you hate rebuild movies but kind of like MariShe's the only one who actually
wants to be there. It's kinda funny to me in a meta way.
No. 131400
>>131398true, anon, true. it's kinda sad to face it upfront but it's good thing that there are times i sometimes stray away from the ship and the fandom entirely and focus on smth for a while before going back and like be picky with the things i read for the ship.
honestly, if i do explode from the lack of fics i wanted to read from bakudeku, lol. i'd prob make my own fic.
No. 131401
So started reading Hajime no Ippo and noticed that the art style reminds me of the Archie comics, specially their noses. Anyways, I need some good doujinshi/fanfics recommendations cause I'm getting hooked.
>>131391I kinda do look at relationship dynamics not just appearances, but its kinda a mix. Like todobaku was partially appearance based but also partially, "How would these 2 interact with each other based". While kiribaku is 100% canon relationship based (as in they have a good relationship in the original). Also I tend to watch a lot of youtube edits of certain ships or clips of the anime.
>>131394I don't mind reading the manga, I actually was interested at some point, read some recent chapters and then just lost interest I guess. I think I'll eventually read it but not now.
>>131397>twisted idolisation deku has over bakugouyes thats the stuff right there. plus the bakugou fics where he's actually self aware of his actions. If i'm being completely honest, ive yet to read a dom baku fic. all the fics i've read with baku, he's the bottom. I think those fics often have the most interesting character development/interpretations.
No. 131403
>>131401>all the fics i've read with baku, he's the bottom. With regards to bottom Baku I really can't see anyone other then kirishima topping him, like every Top_Deku Bottom_Bakugou changes their personalities and mannerisms so drastically that they basically are OC's, with kirishima however you can absolutely see him topping bakugou
He's chill and confident and really seems like he could put bakugou in his place if he wanted to
No. 131405
>>131401samefagging cause i need to clarify, only ippo reminds me of chubby archie, the rest of the manga art style does not.
>>131403I will preface with, i don't have the baku knowledge to really know what is oc or not. but the few dekubaku fics ive read, baku's character felt very canon to me (with my limited baku knowledge). The appeal for bottom baku is that he is willing to -be the bottom- for someone he loves and put down his pride, at least to me thats why i like the bottom baku dynamic. The most recent one ive read is antinomie or something like that, it has the "baku rape" and there are elements that i didnt like about it, but i felt like that doujin had (to me) an in universe bakugou.
>put bakugou in his placeI dont really see dekubaku and todobaku in that kind of dynamic. But I can see it for kiribaku. It just feels different for deku and todo and other crackships. When baku is a bottom, its not todo or deku that has the power but baku who allows them to top him. Whereas Ive read kiribaku fics that are more "putting baku in his place" kind of situation. Ive also read kiribaku fics that have the above mentioned dynamic as well and those are also good. Of course this is all the opinion of someone who hasnt read/watched much of bnha, so take it with a grain of salt. Unrelated, have you read vanished or i think its titled similarly, but to sum up, future deku goes back in time and meets i think middle school baku? That was a really nice doujin.
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All this talk about tops and bottoms reminded of something, Its a unique little quirk I have regarding certain characters, whether or not a character tops or bottoms depends very much on what version of character were talking about, you know Pre-Timeskip or post-timeskip or a rare transformation and even a unique costume
For e.g in most ships I see Joker(from the persona series) bottoming in every scenario and form unless when he's in drag, Joker in Drag is the one giving orders and domming yusuke
No. 131622
>>130809>>130814Super late response, but thanks for these suggestions as well. I did approach a used bookstore, but they weren't interested, and none of the other stores sell manga at all.
I think I'm going to try to sell the stuff that's sorta decent but not my taste online and put the real trash in a box out on the curb (but not near where I live).
No. 131649
>>131622do what I did for misc unpopular stuff, sell it as a bundle on ebay for bid starting from $1(shipping not included ofc).
That way you don't have to throw it away, and it goes to someone who wants it.
No. 131852
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I read way too much BL in the last few months and while I have posted ITT before I thought I'd write up a few short thoughts on everything I read.
Disclaimer: I actually bought these on cmoa.jp, I have no idea whether a translation exists for all of them. If you click 無料立ち読み on the product page you should be able to read a few pages of each manga.
Sato Tsubame
GAPS: My favourite BL of all time. maladjusted good-looking dude falls in love with his boss who has erectile disfunction. The dialogues are really fun and I like their dynamic. Not very cutesy.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/101817/Ore ga suki nado warawaseru: Recently divorced seme wakes up with co-worker uke on his dick, asks if they should just date - uke says no. Just like GAPS this isn't cutesy and feels more realistic than your usual BL fare.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/214358/Dogs: Spin-off of GAPS. Police officer gets harassed by his superior, who is a huge dick. Didn't like this one honestly.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/124307/Files: Dude decides to work at the detective agency that caused him to lose his job, falls in love with detective who is looking for his lost brother. Kind of meh.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/138661/Ore ga suki nara Hizamazuke: Spin-off of Ore ga suki nado waraseru (or the other way around). Elite salaryman gets confessed to by his equally elite salaryman, isn't happy about it, gets sexually abused. Didn't like.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/154912/Kazemachi Kyuuka: Collection of short stories, very cute but they kind of all end too soon.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/109179/Fukuzatsu de tanjun de koufuku na jikan wo: Teacher's new co-worker is the guy he confessed to on their last day of high school. Ends before anything really happens.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/135146/Santaro
Zettai, Koukai sasemasen kara: IT guy has been involuntarily outed at his job, making his life there a mess. New guy joins his department, confesses to him. Cute, but not very memorable.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/216484/Shikke
Sex Drop: Top wants to top other top, gets topped hard. I liked this one.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/188964/Ichi ka, Bachi ka: 4 male friends, two are dating, the other two start to experiment. Was okay but wouldn't buy again.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/174953/Pink Heart Jam: Guy questioning his sexuality happens upon his guitar playing university senpai at a brothel, falls for him. So far I don't really see the connection between them, but there are only 3 chapters released.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/208128/Nikke Taino
Sex suru yori hazukashii koto: Dude gets recruited into simulating sex for streaming, gets really into it. I liked this one, lots of tension.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/175972/Taikan Yohou: Unsuccessful manga artist lives with TV weatherman in exchange for performing house work including sex. Was very rapey, didn't like.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/208562/Tagura Tooru
Nomi x Shiba: Super cute fluffy high school boy romance. One of my favs.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/191119/Narashima Sachi
Cosmetic Play Lover: Two make-up artists at a department store fall in love after the seme blackmails the uke into sex. After that it's very shojo manga-esque, but I like it.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/153766/Nohana Saori
Ikemen no senpai ga jitsu ha doutei de junjou deshita: Super popular office worker lets his guard down with his new subordinate, lets it slip he's a virgin. Continued in Ikemen no senpai ga jitsu ha bukiyou de junkan deshita. Okay but forgettable.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/108448/ https://www.cmoa.jp/title/192755/Osanajimi ga do M de tsundere desu ga: High school student has had a crush on his neighbour since forever, neighbour is M and fucks random men. High school student asks him to at least give him a chance. This one was cute. Continued in Osanajimi ga kirakira de tsuraindesu ga.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/127432/ https://www.cmoa.jp/title/188623/Misaka Nium
Junai Dropout: M guy starts dating coffee shop employee. Very smutty, but the relationship itself is actually super wholesome and sweet.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/178274/Momose An
Yume nara doko made yurusaremasu ka: Overworked dude confesses murder to a young cop. Turns out it was just a dream, cop tells him to come by the police station whenever he needs to. This one was really cute, plus it has a buff guy in a police uniform.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/205609/Agata Ito
Boku ha kimi no iinari: Kohai finds out his tennis club senpai is into him, starts having a sexual relationship with him. Smutty but kind of meh.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/117515/Amamiya
Bokura no Tsuzuki: Childhood friends meet again, fall in love. Cute.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/204601/Agaretsu Tanaka
Daisy Jealousy: I do not remember anything about this one.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/211124/Kamoburger (カモバーガー)
Sweet Our R1: Uke thinks he might be slipping into sex addiction, starts withholding sex from his bf. Was okay.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/196387/Kon Shota
Koi wo egakeba iro ga saku: Two guys who were at the same high school, one from the football club, one into art, meet again in university. Cute but forgettable.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/209738/Sakumoto Ayu
Hello Green Days: Kohai falls in love with senpai at university. Very cozy, but I found it a bit boring.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/200931/Sakura Riko
Daiji ni suru kara tabete ii?: Scary guy at school suddenly confesses to classmate. The relationship wasn't very convincing.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/161443/Suzaka Shina / Anzai Rika
Tonari no Usotsuki: Gay dude who had always hidden his sexuality falls in love with openly gay guy he meets at a coffee shop. Forgettable.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/170955/Dayoo
Lonely Playground: Restaurant worker picks up office worker who has been cut off by his
abusive boyfriend. Had to read the description to remember it. The art kind of sucks.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/181606/Nejiganameta
Sensei no kimochi wo kotae nasai: Teacher's use of prostitutes is discovered by coworker who uses it to pressure him into sexual acts. Was alright.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/204848/Hatoya Tama
Ecchi na oshiri ja dame desu ka?: Uni student is way too much into anal masturbation, looks for a guy to fuck him, meets much older dude who falls in love with him. The age difference really didn't do it for me.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/190890/Harada
Yatamomo: Dude picks up homeless prostitute, lets him live with him. I know people tend to love Harada, but all the characters sucked.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/100243/Machio Yu
Kono saki ha futari kiri de: High school boy secretly in love with his friend. Boring, didn't like the art.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/186317/Miyoshi Ayato
Toshishita Kareshi ni hirowaremashita: Young adult gets drunk at the wedding of the guy he had been pining for since high school, young bar employee cares for him. Nothing great here.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/128265/Hatsukoi katte ni owarasu na: Guy surprisingly meets gay high school friend who had cut contact with him after graduation. Gay friend gets thrown out by his boyfriend, stays at guy's house. Kind of sweet.
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>>131854>>131852Thank you for your contribution,
nonny.
No. 131923
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I preordered the official Western release of Dramatical Murder, I've never played this game before so I'm pretty excited ngl. Anyone else buying it too?
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>>131923Thanks reminding me this was a thing, now I wanna replay it
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>>131923Sucks that it's only available for Windows. Only way I can enjoy the content is to find incomplete playthroughs online. My favorite route would have to be Clear's.
No. 131956
>>131923The only thing I know about this game is the ending in which
the white haired guy amputates the main character's limbs and removes his eyes and vocal chords and paralyzes him from the waist down so he can hurt him all he wants or something and the thought still fucks me up bad, is it really worth trying or is it just full of shit like that?
No. 131959
>>13192314 year old me is screaming, I've always been too retarded to figure out how to get the illegally downloaded ver to work, so I'm glad I can finally play it. Annoyed that it only ships from murica though, do you think there will be anyways to buy the physical copy in the uk? I'm worried the disks wont work on my non uk laptop.
>>131956There's various routes and endings depending on what character you decide to go with. Each one has a good and bad ending, the one you described is Clear's bad ending. I'm pretty Kojaku's bad ending is the only one where Aoba doesn't get hurt or raped, so go with his route if you want to be safe.
No. 131997
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>>131956I recall it was pretty clear whether you're steering into a direction of a bad ending or a good one? Nitro+Chiral does some brutal shit to their characters, DMMd was still much more tame than Togainu no Chi. As long as you make sure you're doing things right and getting to a good ending you'll be safe from brutality. Kinda envious that you get to experience it fresh, it's easily the best game of the genre I've ever played so I miss the excitement of discovering it for the first time
No. 131999
>>131956There are bad and good endings. Good endings are all really wholesome and cute as far as I remember, bad endings are brutal most of the time. Even Koujaku's bad ending has blood in it if the re:connect scenes are included (not sure if they will be?).
I personally like this sort of contrast and I don't think that it's too difficult to get the good endings. You should look up some walkthrough parts to see if you like it or not.
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Where does a fujo go to sperg out about original series with her fellow fans? Even on Japanese twitter there's no real conversation outside of the biggest fandoms.
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>>132004im screaming at that panel anon loool
No. 132032
>>132004In actual Japan, unfortunately. The doujin stores 100% devoted to bl are the best. If you can work up your courage and ignore all of the disapproving old dudes and salarymen (sir I saw you eyeing that tenga masturbator vending machine and anime girl vagina replica). Just hanging out with all the girls in there, and sometimes a random sincere guy. And there are clubs in and out of conventions for manga and doujin sales. Obviously not very feasable though, tragically.
Also, lmao that panel.
No. 132086
>>132004It’s hard isn’t it? I’ve only one other friend who reads Japanese and likes BL but even then we only recommend things to each other. I find it hard to discuss and most BL conversation goes - this good, good story, nice art, nice butthole, end.
Now manhwa on the other hand - their BL is fucking wild and their weekly release dates open room to speculate. Blind Play is fucking insane for example
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>>131997>>132127don't worry, slow damage is coming out and we'll go through a similar dmmd hell once again
No. 132130
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There's nowhere else to whine about this retarded topic so you're stuck with me here.
I've been on a Berserk kick again lately and have also rediscovered the retarded fans. I'm no Griffith apologist but it bugs me a bit when people do his character a disservice. On one side you've got the typical tumblrites that only comprehend homolust and anything else flies over their heads, and on the other you've got edgy insecure fanboys who kick and scream in denial over the intentional and rather brazen homoeroticism (and some take their brain damage further still by denying he was even capable of human emotion pre-Femto like holy crap how can one be this dense). And they argue everywhere.
Like damn why even follow this decades long deteriorating series if you're gonna close your eyes through it. And why even pick up an edgefest trying to shock you if you can't even handle a bit of homoeroticism. I hate people.
No. 132170
>>132032>>132086Ayrt. Thanks for the info.
>most BL conversation goes - this good, good story, nice art, nice butthole, end.That exactly it.
I guess I'll just keep working on my nihongo for now.
I'll check out your rec anon.
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Now that the Haikyuu manga has ended we lost one of the most unconvincing "just friends" pairings that I have ever seen in anime or manga, Oikawa and Iwaizumi. So gay. They had so much chemistry that if the mangaka ended it with them getting married I wouldn't have even blinked. At least this pairing has a lot of nice doujins floating around.
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>>132316Good eye anon, it is. She made really sweet Oikawa x Iwaizumi doujins. Also some other ships. I just read character trivia and the mangaka of Haikyuu said Oikawa was born on Alexander the Great's birthday and Iwaizumi was born on the day of his death, lol that's so gay. I actually have really depraved tastes normally (think Harada's most psychologically twisted works) but sometimes I do just want something wholesome and cute.
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>>132004>>132018lmao thanks for bringing it up. finished it recently, it was a fun read
No. 132476
>>132257As a baguette anon I'm not surprised about the French tourists lol. I don't know why they're like this but it sounds awfully familiar.
I don't know why I hadn't thought about the English-speaking fans. I'll make sure to visit Nakano Broadway when I get the chance.
No. 132480
>>132476Lol all the French dudes I met were awful. So rude. Acting like they owned the place. It's like they were competing with the Americans for most awful scrote squad (actually the Brits were the most blatant sex pests tbh). The French women were super cool though. When wild deer were twirling me around by the skirt this french woman really wanted to take photos and was really nice asking me for permission.
Nakano is great for BL. You can get all the original works in manga and bookstores (some audio readings too) and piles of doujins including rare pairings. All the girls were so chill to hang out with. Found a Taiwanese girl into my ship from Hoozuki no Reitetsu to sperg with, helped me find a FIZZCODE doujin. It's great for niche art and collecting and interests in general. Shoutout to my fave Nakano store Taco Che, not exclusively BL or anything but mostly staffed by women and dedicated to alternative and fetish manga. Adore that place.
No. 132499
>>132480NTA but I had no idea Nakano had female-centric stores or communities, I mostly go to Otome Road for BL stuff. I've been to Nakano Broadway but it seemed to be mostly scrote-centric hentai doujins and toys so maybe I just didn't know where to look.
The only tourists I've met have been Chinese (no idea if mainland or Taiwanese) though, haven't seen a lot of westerners around.
No. 132530
>>132480different anon, but do you have any other specific stores you recommend for BL? or places to hang out?
each time i manage to go to japan, i never get a chance to buy porn (i'm with family, on a school trip, whatever), but next time i get the chance to travel, whew, i'm going all out.
No. 132579
>>132499I'm pretty sure it's Mandarake that runs exclusively BL doujin stores that are absolutely packed to the brim. You could spend endless hours there. It was organized by series. And a lot of the bookstores, even the classy ones (I liked Haruya, I think) and manga shops, have large BL sections. They will ask if you want bookstore branded paper covers to go overtop to protect your dignity lol. Yeah, you will definitely see obnoxious scrotes and their shit all over, like right on the main floor there will be brazen loli art books just right in a window clear as day where regular shoppers going to food stalls and eyeglasses shops walk past. The tenga vending machines make me lol. You just have to ignore the men and go exploring. That's what I did until I found all my little niches.
You will also find loads of bishie men toys and toys from Fujo baiting sports series. They had kinbaku Gintama men keychains lol.
No. 132582
>>132530See my other comment for talking to women with niche interests like boys love in Nakano. I love Taco Che, the Mandarake run BL doujin shops, and just milling around in the BL sections of Mandarake's manga shops or standard bookstores long enough and sometimes you will find someone really into the same author.
Whenever I go I have gone alone and to meet up with Japanese female friends. Which means I don't have to worry about my family or friends judging me lol. Keep an eye out online for events exclusively for BL mangaka and fans (sometimes pixiv artists promote on there). You can make purchases at events and mill about with other fans and meet creators. They pop up pretty randomly. Otome Road is a pretty good spot to watch for events because they advertise physically there. You can pick up leaflets.
I'm a huge freak despite being shy but I have met women through places like Vibe Bar Wild One, which is a women's only bar in Tokyo where you can buy fancy vibrators and it attracts women with all kinds of sexual interests and personalities.
No. 132736
>>132579>They will ask if you want bookstore branded paper covers to go overtop to protect your dignity lolOT, but this is not exclusive to manga stores, they ask that for any book you buy in Japan.
I was at Mandarake in Akihabara a few weeks back and while they had quite a large selection I felt a bit overwhelmed tbh
Have to kind of hide the extend of my BL sperging at home though, so I only buy digital and it kills me that (most?) doujin are paper only.
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Any other fujoshits have a yaoi radar? I was trying to get into Teen Titans and I got to the episode where Slade tries to make Robin his apprentice and instantly I just KNEW there must be hundreds, thousands of fics of them online. I was right but it got me to thinking of what kind of characters/ships just attract a BL audience and why is it possible to smell fujoshit from a mile away.
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>>132936I thought most of the anons in that thread were also fujos? Don't see how the game would be enjoyable on hetero mode. Anyway, at first I thought he was worst boy but I actually started to really enjoy bullying Kylar. All the options to punish him are extremely hot. Second best is Winter but it's really hard to collect the antiques and romance with most of the teachers is so limited.
No. 132963
>>132938>Don't see how the game would be enjoyable on hetero mode. Agree, I probably couldn't stomach playing with a female character due to how straight out fucked up most of the content is. But with boy characters it's just up my alley kek
I'm a Whitneyfag but I'm hoping for more romanceable options since
I'd like to have Remy be a farmer daddy with his bullboy similar to Eden's route. Haven't tried Kylar yet but now I'm interested since you mentioned being able to bully him.
btw are there any good artists drawing DoL fanart like your pic related? The ones in the wiki for example look like dog shit to be honest.
No. 132964
>>132938Kylar is too needy for me but I can see his appeal. The character I dislike the most is Robin. He's too milquetoast and everyone seems to be super into him.
I really wanted Bailey to be available though. He's the one I lust for but can't have. I like Eden railing my character every day though.
No. 132965
>>132939I wish you could
trigger Avery's possessiveness by other means than just being a dick to him because I'm the same as you anon, too pussy to pick the defiant options and doomed to deal with the boring dates. The noncon scenes seem much more interesting tbh
>>132964I actually like Robin but he would work better as a caring brother type instead of the spineless push-over he's made to be.
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>>133077Shizaya(Shizuo x Izaya) from DRRR is a pretty classic one. You can also try Kurapika x Chrollo.
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>>133077Seconding Shizaya above. Another is Bungo Stray Dogs' Dazai and Chuuya, who develop from allied rivals into outright nemeses.
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>>133103I love Suzaku x Lelouch but can't help but think of them as a poor man's Kira x Athrun.
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>>133089Seconding Chrollo/Kurapika, that's some legit enmity.
Yata/Saruhiko from K Project is a fav of mine, though they started out friends so they aren't true enemies deep down.
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>>133089There are a lot of great Shizuo x Izaya doujins. Hurling heavy objects at your nemesis immediately on sight, lol.
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>>133101Dazai also has Akutagawa who canonically both loves and hates him after he switches teams. The funny thing is Dazai is basically largely responsible for corrupting both of them into bad guys. Chuuya was a pretty cute ruffian before Dazai aggressively turned his friends against him and manipulated him down them path of full blown mobster and then pissed off to ostensibly join the good guys. He pushed Akutagawa to use his abilities for extreme violence and would coldly beat the hell out of him for failure. So a lot of good reasons for enmity in these pairings.
No. 133299
>>132936This game is great and I love it, but I can't imagine playing in hetero mode. I made everyone male.
>>132938I got into the game without reading much about it and started romancing Kylar just because he was available in school and seemed like an emo loner, realizing only later that this character
can go full fucking yandere stalker if you're not careful, kek.
I really want to play my character as a pure, sinless virgin so he could obtain the Angel transformation
and then get horribly corrupted into a Demon, but I got about halfway there and decided that I wanted him to get abducted by the Black Wolf instead.
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Welp.
No. 133420
>>133328nitro+ games are known for being fucking long, I don't think we'll see translations for at least another year.
>>133393good old MRM or futekiya
No. 133527
>>133405Oh im glad. Sometimes mentioning her is a hit or miss.
>>133469Man. That's tough but probably Color Theory? That shit had me on the edge of my seat. Like every page was a jump scare lol. I also cant remember the name but one had to do with a kid who's mom sold him as a prostitute and basically he had no self esteem bc of that?>>133505
Its amazing how harada can write like really scary trauma based stories and make something as funny as happy kuso life
>>133393try Manganelo ? Mangagogo
No. 133569
>>133555I love how her stories are suuuuuper unconventional. It’s a relaxing break from the usual BL tropes/storylines
>>133563My bad. It’s been awhile
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NTA, but basically all of them. Nobody really does twisted psychological dynamics like her. People unfamiliar with her work should be forewarned that nothing is really off limits for her (large age gaps, even occasionally shota) and psychological and physical abuse feature heavily and so does rape and every kind of taboo pretty much (you don't have to worry about feces or bestiality though.)
I own most of her Gintoki x Hijikata doujin. Strong themes of unhealthy dependence, masochism and sadism, and stockholm syndrome. She occasionally does some cute stuff but Gintoki is basically always some shade of dominant sadist. Shuukan Edo- milder than most, bit of comedy. Gintoki feigns being more upset about something than he is and Hijikata is genuinely apologetic and he seizes the opportunity to sexually torment him until he cries and passes out. Me Yami Otoko- One of the best. Hijikata is severely injured and wheelchair bound in the hospital and Gintoki is turned on by his helplessness and ruthlessly exploits it. Kabe- takes the "stuck in wall" trope and turns it against Hijikata, sadistic. Ukatsuna yakusoku wa suru na- Starts off consensual but devolves into bondage and edging torture, Gintoki gets blackmail so he can do it more presumably. Mienai Kusari- Probably the darkest of them all. Gintoki imprisons Hijikata and sexually and psychologically tortures him over a long period before strategically abandoning him and releasing him with the goal of inducing stockholm syndrome.
Yajirushi- in which an arrogant bully asshole uses the fact that a very meek classmate is in love with him to use him for petty wants. Flys into a possessive rage when meek classmate apparently has a boyfriend.
Hikizuru oto- childhood best friend fakes a long since recovered injury to exploit his best friend's severe guilt over the accident that caused it and keep him close. Sexually and emotionally possessive.
Piercing Hole- Salaryman with a piercing fetish. New bf becomes gripped with rage and jealousy over the thought of the former lovers who gave him his piercings.
Going to break up my responses because one of my other attempted posts gotten eaten and made me cry.
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>>133621Yatamomo- about Momo a submissive once child prostitute who was formerly the live in sex slave of a wealthy sadist, but flees. Ends up living with a kind but sexually aggressive guy. The former wealthy sadist gives them trouble.
Sumomo- companion piece about the relationship the aforementioned rich sadist had with Momo.
Henai- shady, no-good teacher, gets off on being the recipient of sexually aggressive role play by a reluctant student.
Messiah no Yakubi/ Messiah no Kyojitsu/ Messiah no Sentaku- Guy who only tops, mostly oral, is set up to be violated by a sadistic rapist by his obsessed best friend in the hopes that it will make him stop sleeping around and send him into his arms.
Chikan sareteru kare wo guuzen hakkenshite, teki na tenkai de- High school student is groped and then raped on a crowded train in front of a classmate. Turns out the classmate paid for it to be done to him because he gets off on it and wanted his classmate to rely on him emotionally. Twisted.
Kyousituno Hizumi/Hizumi Hajime (After School Perversion)- cold blooded and dominant teacher manipulates submissive and lonely student into adoring him and becoming his sexual plaything. Memorable scene with a paper cut.
Aru Otoko no Higeki- Super brutal one shot from her main series Yoru to Asa no Uta. Guy gets brutalized by two gangsters. And I mean really brutalized. Beat up, stepped on, stapled, burned with a cigarette, forced to drink their pee. Not for the faint hearted.
No. 133626
>>133625Call me fucked but i honestly shipped the simp with the yakuza brother and the blonde singer with the
rapist. Also One Room Angel is really good by Harada too and its a sideish story of Yoru to Asa. Its actually one of the sweeter ones.
No. 133631
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>>133626Lol, I feel you on both counts. I'm a total sicko. I am all for demented ships. Dark haired yakuza guy is really hot but his ability to rape on command is alarming. Like, just like that, huh? One Room Angel is really sweet but heartbreaking. I loved the character designs. I haven't disliked anything Harada has done. She's really interesting because she can write the most horrifying psychological torture stockholm syndrome stuff and then also convincingly cute roommate stories. She has the range.
No. 133633
>>133631Samefag cause i mentioned this upthread, but Chou to Hana has Harada vibes without bad scenes tho the prequel does has some. And the character design, I knew that the dude from One Room Angel HAD to be related to the dark haired yakuza. Also scruffy looking dudes are just
chef's kiss. My head canon is that dkhaired yakuza has a thing for the singer which is why he could on demand but I'm 60% sure he has a thing for the yakuza boss.
No. 133642
>>133637Samefag here but sorry to burst your bubble but I ship Yakuza boss with simp precisely because simp and yakuza boss are both so bland. Monkey for the win, he has my heart and so does dark haired yakuza.
Dark Haired Yakuza >>>>>>> Yakuza Boss
Monkey >>>>>>> Simp
No. 133653
>>133642Still works, Boss and Simp can simp eachother and yakuza can bust the monkeys dickhole with rocks or what
Perfect harmony, man
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>>133633>Chou to Hana I've read that one. I like guys who look kind of tough but are actually crybabies.
>Also scruffy looking dudes are just chef's kissFor real, for real. Especially with the disgruntled expressions.
>My head canon is that dkhaired yakuza has a thing for the singer which is why he could on demand but I'm 60% sure he has a thing for the yakuza boss.I mean dark haired yakuza calls him Asaichi-kun right after he rapes him which is a little weird, right? But being into your violent scheming boss is such a classic villian sidekick thing. Probs a little gay, picrel.
No. 133660
>>133654On the topic of Harada, has anyone found any other connections in her stories? One Angel Room's scruffy dude is brothers with Yoru to Asa's black haired yakuza. Yatamomo is friends with and borrows a suit from black haired yakuza for one of his job interviews.
>>133654>being into your violent scheming boss is such a classic villian sidekick thingdoesn't help that the boss broke both of his arms, kidnapped him, did who knows what else and black haired yakuza willing went back to him. breaks my head canon, but damn if thats not love/classic harada stockholm what is.
No. 133666
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>>133660Probably are threaded through her original works. I'm such a lazy stan. I own basically physical copies of everything she has written but can't think of anymore right now. And I keep calling her characters like boss yakuza guy and dark haired yakuza guy instead of their names, Iori and Tomoda, lol.
>doesn't help that the boss broke both of his arms, kidnapped him, did who knows what else and black haired yakuza willing went back to him. breaks my head canon, but damn if thats not love/classic harada stockholm what isA man beating you half to death/trying to kill you/raping you is a precursor to love or at least intense obsession in Harada land. Picrel, when you cry because you find your rapist was put up to it and didn't do it on his own volition. And to your point Iori is way to thorough, creative, and detailed with his revenge rapes, so… things happened for sure. The Yakuza would be a really good setting for Harada but maybe it would be to overwhelming because there is just way too much potential for homoerotic violence there and it would be overwhelming.
No. 133680
>>133660>One Angel Room's scruffy dude is brothers with Yoru to Asa's black haired yakuza. Oh fuck I never noticed this
>>133621>>133625Don't know if you left out Nii-chan intentionally (wouldn't blame you kek) but that's one of my favourite Harada works. A high school student was abused by a neighborhood teen as a kid and got him jailed and institutionalized after he got caught, now he's obsessed with finding his "big brother" and rekindling their "love". It has rape and recounts of child abuse so it's "that kind of Harada" but the story was really well-written and even snuck in really good social commentary which I didn't fully realize at first.
No. 133683
>>133680Yeah there are references to his little brother being in the yakuza and how it's his fault, and they actually look a lot alike when you look side by side. But it kinda gets lost in the rest of the story.
I did leave it out on purpose, you got me. It's definitely her most controversial original work. I left out her Gintama doujins that contain shota or borderline shota stuff too, one of them is arguably more disturbing than Nii-chan actually. I agree it is well written and more realistic with the handling of certain themes- albeit pretty disturbing obvs. Art on point as usual. Not to get dark but I have very personal experience with this topic and it strangely didn't make me recoil. Almost her whole catalogue is very disturbing with the topics and themes so kinda splitting hairs…
No. 133686
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>>133680>One Angel Room's scruffy dude is brothers with Yoru to Asa's black haired yakuza. Oh fuck I never noticed this
They look very similar. The hair and narrow apathetic eyes. But one looks deader and the other a lot angrier. Anyways 10/10 would get curbstomped by or whatever.
No. 133695
>>133666Went to go reread this, blondie looking fineee. Dog eyes/downward slanted eyes should become more popular, they add a lot to the character.
>>133686>Anyways 10/10 would get curbstomped by or whatever.Same anon same.
No. 133698
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>>133686Late reply but finally found It, IRL Yaoi Boys
Really one of the most bizzare things I've seen in my life, don't have any idea who would be into this
No. 133714
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>>133698I think you meant to reply to me, thanks anon. I will watch this so none of you have to.
No. 133758
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>>133698>>133716>>133726Ntayrt but I have this AV.
I like futanari plz don't judge me It's really pretty much just a futanari JAV but with crossdressing actresses; there's very little attempt made to have them look like boys. I know this looks like it's supposed to be yaoi, but I kind of thought these AVs were for guys anyway, like other futa stuff. These "fake BL" AVs used to be a bit more popular, and in many of them the actresses go completely topless and have obvious breasts, or there's a scene where they're wearing leotards or some other clearly female clothes.
Also, the strap-ons aren't censored in this one. Of course you're not required to censor
fake dicks but must futanari JAVs still do so anyway, because it gives the illusion that their dicks are real. (Also, it covers up how fake-looking they are.) Some higher-effort futa JAVs have these fancy strapless dicks that glue onto the wearer's mound and have fake pubic hair to cover up the seam, and when these things are censored they look passably realistic. This particular AV just has the fakest pink dildos you can imagine.
No. 133760
>>133758I know this is fujoshi thread so I know glass houses and all that but
>I like futanari plz don't judge meSeriously ? I mean that's a scrote tier fetish, this Is just a barely disguised shemale fetish
No. 133766
>>133763There's no such thing as a woman with a dick, its a scrote tier logic of dickgirls or shemales
Like I dont like pegging but if you were into the strap on doujins it would make some sense with what you're describing, but with funtari it's not a woman, its a guy with tits
No. 133812
>>133760Ayrt here. I might be a degenerate but I'm not a moid. Futanari JAV is just lesbian porn with strap-ons, there's no traps/trannies in it.
>>133763Same.
I posted a review of the JAV because some anons were curious (tl;dr version is, it sucks), didn't mean to derail the BL thread. My bad.
No. 133816
>>133814Samefag I'm sure most anons here already know but it bears repeating that there's a lot of difference between porn fantasy of how assholes work and how they really are, I have both revived anal foreplay and have given cause I had an anal obsessed ex-bf who would troon out 2 years after I dumped him
Assholes are disgusting, smelly and lots of fecal matter and shit is in ever present realty
No. 133817
>>133814None of the anons above but anon there's a time and place for debating ~girldick validity~ but discussing magical fantasy porn isn't one of them since it's all make-believe. Whether it's a tranny
trigger is another subject but please hide your autism.
No. 133824
Gangrape-chan, the loving guardian deity of the fujo thread, please drive this spergy bitch
>>133822 out. We believe in you.
No. 133839
>>133825Praise our lord and savior Gang rape-chan!
May she mob all femdick fags out of existence!
No. 133864
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>>133695Lol, we have the same good taste in disturbed Harada characters.
>Went to go reread this, blondie looking fineee. Dog eyes/downward slanted eyes should become more popular, they add a lot to the character.Yes, agree!(She draws a light haired teacher who looks very similar but has the opposite personality aside from being a sadist, wouldn't be surprised if they end up being related) Messiah is one of my faves because of blondie rapist. His design is great and really hot but he's also creepy and entertaining. Protag is really cute too. This page is so good: picrel.
No. 133866
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>>133825sorry to burst your bubble anon, but i'm
>>133763 AND gangrape-chan lmao. it's really unfortunate we all can hate on "antis," label ourselves as "pro-kink," and then some of you come in here and shit on certain fetishes like you're better than the rest of us.
because, listen. you aren't. if you like self-lubricating assholes, mpreg, rape, ABO, non-con, etc., you're just as weird. any normal person outside of this little BL bubble would find you weird.
get over yourself.
>>133864god the guy in the bottom panel is so hot. harada, my love.
No. 133894
>>133879How can you be anti-porn in a BL thread? Clearly we all like assfucking here. There’s sex in BL. Lots of it. Unless you mean 3D?
Also, I don’t live my life to prove men right or wrong, I just enjoy what I enjoy. I suggest you try it.
No. 133896
>>133866Absolutely based Gangrape-chan.
>>133879Most of us are anti-porn but these anime guys getting fucked aren't real people. You can abuse them however you like because the only thing getting damaged is your pen from drawing it. Also who gives a fuck about what scrotes think, I'm not putting on a proper lady show for them.
No. 133901
>>133894Just Cause I like seeing 2D men fucking each other doesn't mean I have to associate, promote or even defend degenerate fetishes
Dickgirls are a Tranny degeneracy thats just shemale trap sex, you might as well read trap doujins
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>>133660I reread Yatamoto recently and he showed up in the first chapter. Harada needs to make a bonus story about his daily life or something
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>>133866>god the guy in the bottom panel is so hot. harada, my love.Right? Queen Harada needs to be awarded for her godlike service. She creates the absolute best psycho stalker rapists. If you haven't read it you really should. You would also probably like her psycho Gintoki from her Gintama doujins. Had me feeling bad for Hijikata though, he gets put through the ringer. Picrel.
No. 133923
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>>133912>Those two little lines on the dick KEK what is even the point of the censor. Picrel is definitely my favorite "Psycho stalker rapist" manga from her. I just loved how she made the guy so charming on the surface.
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>>133923Lol, the little lines are preserving our maidenhood. Good pick. Hard for me to choose a fave. I love him being confronted by the female co-worker who sees through him. Harada is so good at writing psycho drama, depraved jealousy and possessiveness and a twisted kind of selfish "love". He is just so nasty. Having the audacity to be angry at his
victim for breaking too much after the torture and then playing the woeful
victim himself to induce guilt. So vicious!
No. 133983
>>133911There also an extra chapter where dicksucker from yatamoto meets monkey and simp from Asa to Yoru at a panchinko and begs them for money. Later dkhaired yakuza comes in with big dick and monkey high tails the fuck out. Sorry for not knowing their names, I suck at remembering them lol.
>>133915You know how authors tend to reuse characters they are fond of. I think its the same with Harada and dkhaired yakuza and I'm not complaining, keep it coming Goddess Harada.
>>133864Blondie rapist def has a super entertaining personality. I didn't actually like the design of black hair cause of the bang covering half his face, kept reminding me of some chuunibyu shit kek.
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>>133912>>133923On the topic of the censorship, I actually looked into this a while ago because the inconsistencies were driving me crazy, and it's apparently agreed upon that you need to censor the line between shaft and head and the pee/semen hole (censored in this instance by the hand).
How much censorship is required varies from publisher to publisher, which is why usually with doujins and publishers that publish a lot of porn you'll see this very minimal censorship while some more major publishing houses will demand the full white-out.
Fun fact: Assholes are fine until the second a penis or a toy enters them. In Junai Dropout there was one chapter where they censored the buttplug when it was inserted but not anymore afterwards, and that's apparently why.
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>>133983
>Later dkhaired yakuza comes in with big dick and monkey high tails the fuck out.Normal reaction, to be fair.
>You know how authors tend to reuse characters they are fond of.Yes, please give us more queen. Do a fucked up brothers spin off. They are both very very hot.
>Blondie rapist def has a super entertaining personality. I didn't actually like the design of black hair cause of the bang covering half his face, kept reminding me of some chuunibyu shit kek.I like the scene when he trolls the psycho obsessed best friend, picrel. In Haradaland obviously you are going to pick the hot rapist who is good at sex over your deranged traitor best friend who set you up for rape, no contest. Lol, I feel personally attacked because my hair flops over like that no matter what I do. He looks really cute when he cries though and he's supposed to be like emo. I like the contrast between the two.
No. 134034
Also this is probably super late, but I recently realized why her blonde characters often have dog eyes… they're just copies of Gintama
>>134019^ This character is Gintama tier troll. I'm sure your hair looks good irl. Most of Harada's characters have such expressive crying faces, I love it.
>>133999Not Junai Dropout but same author, I think, with the bunny dude was super hot/cute. Himbos are the best, specially when they know what they want.
Does anyone know the name of the manga where there's monsters/animals and the main character is like a lizard/dragon who pairs up with a human and they're cops? One of the chapters, the lizard/dragon gets high off some liquid and gets horny and human cop gets him off.
No. 134110
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Anyone still reading the web comic 19 Days by Old Xian? Sadly I can't read Chinese and can't find anyone who has translated past chapter 343. I like all the characters but Mo Guanshan and He Tian have the best dynamic. Going from that dominating bullying dynamic to being super soft for each other but still with that super dominating element, chef's kiss. Very slow burn since nobody has done the deed yet but I love the sense of humour since I'm really childish I guess but it's also unexpectedly really touching. Like going from this, picrel…
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… to this. I'm super invested.
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>>134112Also really want to know where it's going with Mo and psycho sadist She Li who he's terrified of.
No. 134142
>>134140HOLY SHIT YES!!! I deleted my excel sheet list of manga/webtoon/novels and was really bummed out. Ugh, thank you.
I must've mixed it up with another manga. It's a futuristic setting and I think one of the main characters has like super hearing? And they have cute communicators thats shaped like an animal. But I might be mixing different mangas up kek.
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I'm kind of losing it at almost all of the Jujutsu Kaisen yaoi content being Megumi almost getting fucked to death by every other character. Villain or friend- doesn't matter.
No. 134279
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Another Kayoubi/Mor Gintama doujin (Like Enough) got translated into English. It's the law or something to draw this pairing stupid hot.
No. 134281
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>>134279She does great covers.
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>>134282Ladies do not stick ramune up your butt, please. At least he mentions a stomachache because yeah, more than most yaoi lol.
I have gotten into series before by reading the yaoi. The major villain in Jujutsu Kaisen won't kill the aforementioned character for nefarious purposes and is obsessed with him but of course the BL community was immediately like "this is super gay and horny" so there is a lot of fanart and doujins of them fucking. But he has become the fuck target of everyone now for some reason. As someone who has read the manga- this page was making me laugh so hard, idk.
No. 134292
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>>134283Of course! I love this pairing and she draws them really nicely, picrel. She did a two part called Another Edge, that is very Harada-esque- with the do I love you or want to kill you.
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>>134292For my fellow ladies who like Harada's Gintama doujins. Another Edge Part 1. See part 2 also.
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>>134297… always getting mercilessly wrecked by Gintoki.
No. 134302
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Speaking of goddess Harada I can't believe I forgot how good Psyche Delico can be at total psychological derangement. (I own the audio cd version of one of her works and it even made me uncomfortable, lol). Mantis Cage updated and I can't believe I forgot about it for a little while- it's super twisted, that butler character though…
No. 134397
>>134302This one's really nice, thanks for the recommendation.
In case anyone else just can't with translations, the first volume is currently available to read for free on cmoa:
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/96495/vol/1/ No. 134408
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>>134397You're welcome too! I wish there were more like it, and I was in Japan right now to see all the new releases, but unfortunately it is pretty unique. The beautiful art, showa era, complex cast of characters with issues. A lot of people avoid it like the plague because of the incest (ok) and the women and occasional glimpses of hetero sex (lmao). Really into the whole scheming subordinate manipulating all his superiors (Gormenghast vibes). Ikuro is such as mess. He's so adamant about not being touched by Norihiko, and then he goes like 10 minutes without his dick and is literally peeing himself, collapsing, and shaking. What a mess.
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>>134315I am finally out of my benzo coma to make some recs. I will just stick with psychodrama stuff that I like since like I said Mantis Cage is a sad rarity. God, I have so so many. So just a few for now. Will post more tomorrow though.
Sakashima Hospital by Psyche Delico - one shot about obsessed former classmate who puts a guy he formerly confessed to in the hospital so he can have control over him.
Saigo no Hito/ The Last Lover by Psyche Delico - one shot about office worker who can only get it up for virgins. Takes advantage of his virgin colleague and is surprised when he isn't opposed to rough treatment.
Choco Strawberry Vanilla (and extra chapter Strawberry no Yuuutsu) by Psyche Delico - first thing I read by her. Surprisingly sadistic,
abusive, and twisted love triangle. Guy forces his boyfriend to be in a sexual relationship with his childhood best friend as well, or lose him.
Sneaky Red by Thanat - legitimately violent. A masochistic convenience store worker is stalked and harassed by a younger guy in his neighbourhood who enjoys beating him up. It escalates. First volume is complete but author decided to continue series due to popularity.
Yoru wa Tomodachi by Ido Gihou - withdrawn super masochistic student asks classmate to abuse him. Classmate finds himself to be more sadistic than he thought. Emotional angst ensues.
Minasoko ni Sumu Kodomotachi by Azuma Kaya - New teacher with repressed psychological issues tries to help truant and shut in student. Snaps and abuses him instead. Comes to realize that his student has immense capacity for abuse and torment.
Maria Boy by Kimura Hidesato - a lot milder overall. Fixated around a male prostitute who caters to extremely violent men and also the relationships of his little brother and friends.
Mitto mo nai koi by Moriyo - extremely submissive guy in an
abusive relationship with a possessive sadist, jealous of his boyfriend's devotion to his dead cousin. Bonus chapter about a masochist putting himself in danger in the hope that he gets beaten and violated.
Yugami by Haikei Pass/Jougi - delinquent type confesses to another delinquent who torments him mercilessly. When he begs him to stop he realizes he doesn't want to let him go.
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>>134424Yoru wa Tomodachi by Ido Gihou, probably my favourite of the list. Both for the art and psychological dynamic.
No. 134469
>>134423Choco strawberry vanilla kinda killed me. i cant tell who likes who anymore, it was actually more mindfucky than other more
abusive mangas cause of the dynamics.
Yugami was right up my alley. I love delinquent yaoi. Something about delinquents just makes the story 100x better.
No. 134498
>>134469Choco Strawberry Vanilla actually pissed me off a bit because Hiroi plays so cutesy but is such a manipulative psychopath. Like, "let my best friend rape you or we can't be together". And when he throws a temper tantrum and has his bf raped over the phone because he fought back a little when getting raped before? That's villain tier. Serves him right though because looks like his boyfriend Mine likes sex with
Hiroi's rough childhood best friend Take more than with him now, lol. I hope they ditch him tbh.
I like delinquents too. The angst factor is usually very high. There is one delinquent story by Asada Nemui that set the bar so high for fuckedupness that I don't think it can be surpassed though. Even I was like… Jesus. But it was delinquent x class rep.
No. 134507
>>134498For Asada Nemui did you mean Kurasumeito? I was browsing manga written by Nemui but didn't know which one you were talking about. The only Nemui i've read was ani no chuukoku, the broxbro one. But gonna read my little inferno cause it seems fun.
Lol thanks for the descriptors cause I would not have know who you were talking about but yeah Mine def liked Take's dick more than Hiroi, but I reread the last chapter and see that Mine still likes Hiroi. Idk something about Choco Strawberry Vanilla is just off putting for some reason.
No. 134509
>>134507Kurasumeito.
The delinquents basically torture him and rape him with a sausage, then put a bag over his head. He ends up falling down the stairs and breaking his neck. Head delinquent jerks off on his face and is like "an obedient you is best" implying he was into him. Christ… she has some Harada like stuff, like Skin.
Lol, yeah still into him even though he's trash. I can't stand him tbh. I hate when sadists play cute.
No. 134511
Just finished My Little Inferno, but I can't find volume 2. Does anyone know where I can find either raws or translated? I can't read japanese, but i'll take pictures over nothing lol. I did read from the comments that they get together so that's good to hear.
>>134509Ah okay, I skimmed it cause the art just didn't really speak to me compared to other Nemui bl. The head delinquent wasn't that cute. Also sorry for the lateness, but thanks for the recommendations!!
No. 134514
>>134511Consensual this time yes, lol. You can buy it online in Japanese but here is the entire thing in Vietnamese:
https://staygoldstill.wordpress.com/portfolio/my-little-inferno-asada-nemui/Np. Yeah, I was just like wow, that took a turn…
No. 134518
>>134514How do you find these. You're a literal goddess. They looked so cute together!! Ahh Hitomi and Mayumi are sooo adorable. And they didn't even have sex lolol. Or maybe I saw the chapter wrong and they did, but it looked more like intercural or whatever. When I get a job and finally get my ass to learn japanese, you bet Imma buy all these yaoi.
To anyone who learned Japanese, how long did it take to learn it enough to start reading/understanding?
No. 134519
>>134518This really depends on what you're reading. The difficulty is insanely different from say Mantis Cage, which has old-ish Japanese and lots of formality to some fluff stuff with the readings for all the kanji. It doesn't take long to learn that イく means "I'm cuming" lol
I've been living in Japan for the past 10 years, so manga are a quick and easy read, but I honestly couldn't tell you how long it took me to get to this level. Maybe two years in the country meaning 24/7 Japanese environment?
No. 134520
>>134423>>134469>>134507Choco Strawberry Vanilla is actually my favorite by her for these exact same reasons. I just found something about it so disturbed and it's one of those manga that ends on a rather bittersweet note instead of something purely fluffy and happy. Hiroi was incredibly manipulative and horrible to him and I found the cutesy act sickening. Even when he gets the courage to ditch them and free himself from the abuse he gets reeled back in by Hiroi being "worried sick" about him being gone, all so creepy and nasty and
kinda hot.
Maybe it's just me but the childhood friend also seems autistic as fuck, like he has some actual issue and Hiroi is manipulating them both.
No. 134533
>>134520I prefer Mantis Cage because of the deranged gothic psycho drama fuckery (and Norihiko is my preferred type of sadist) but SCV was my first PD work and has a special place in my heart. I agree with you, it kept me very interested the whole time for the reasons you listed. I own the audio version lmao. I'm just saying if something really bad happened to Hiroi that I wouldn't be bothered, lol. I personally prefer psychopaths who don't put up the cutesy front but it's actually pretty realistic, if you have had the misfortune of encountering them irl. I'm glad you found it disturbing too though because I'm always amazed when it's listed as one of her "sweeter" works. Bruh…
About Take, quite possible. I don't even know. He must realize he can just say no? He could obviously kick Hiroi's ass physically. But a) doesn't want to deny precious Hiroi anything and b) is clearly pretty sadistic himself and really gets off on making Mine cry and suffer- especially as things progress. And like you said having a lifelong close relationship with such a manipulator is going to influence you.
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>>134423I was supposed to be taking passport photos but the photo dude said they wouldn't be accepted because of the bruises on my face and neck, which feels like discrimination tbh because I always look like this and heal slowly so it's an accurate representation of my looks. Anyways here are some more questionable recs for you guys.
Nameneko by Nobara Aiko - classic very short oneshot about innocent guy following a bandaged and beat up shoplifter out of a store on impulse.
Tonari ni Sunderu Neko no Koto by Psyche Delico - twisted relationship between older and younger cousin. Dynamics shift dramatically as younger cousin ages.
Zetsubou ni Nake by Shinou Ryo - newer and unfinished unfortunately but worth mentioning for the psychological elements. A subordinate at work is reunited with a superior he remembers raping him six years ago and gets his revenge by assaulting him. Explores their tenuous relationship.
To the Sea - Asada Nemui - short one shot involving a dangerous hitchhiker.
Dear, My God - Asada Nemui - a priest tries to save a drug addled cult member, gets dragged down with him.
Skin by Asada Nemui - unfinished but worth following. Very Harada like. An older man habitually seduces teens. One of the teens who was in love with him, and he abandoned, gets rape revenge and blackmail on him. Does not go smoothly.
My Little Inferno by Asada Nemui - innocent university student gets involved with a shady guy who moves in with him with the use of threats and force.
Mods by Natsume Kazuki - a driver and bodyguard takes a liking to the mentally broken and traumatized male prostitute he is hired to protect.
Ore, Higaisha/ I'm the
victim by Kimura Hidesato - series of shorts involving a masochistic strangulation fetish, altered reality, a fantasy world created to deal with abuse, a stalker choosing a dangerous target.
Namimori Miya-chan 250 yen by Kimura Hidesato - guy regrets hurting his new boyfriend during sex. Boyfriend agrees to try again if they reverse, turns out to be sadistic.
Nigatsu no Eden by Kiyuhiko - not particularly degenerate at all, though there is domination and implied rape plus some scenes of violence, just dark in the sense that there is absolutely no possibility of a happy ending whatsoever.
Behind Closed Doors/Suimenka Erotoro by Harada - love triangle in which one party consistently uses manipulation and sabotage to get what he wants but comes to regret it.
Samenai Yume by Tatsumi Doroko - Wild one shot about an author having sex with a young man who looks just like his dead brother. The dead brother in turn had a perverse thing for his brother before he died.
Goodbye until time to meet you again by Konjiki Runa - a murder to get revenge for rape devolves into a lover's suicide and basically.. necrophilia.
Unknown by Taratsumi John - a series of one shots. A photographer becomes obsessed with an abused male model and his wounds, begins to inflict them himself. Mostly stories of unexpected, confused, and unrequited obsession and love.
Dogma by AKABEKO - avoid this like the plague if you can't do incest. A deranged son keeps his father imprisoned after being rejected by him as a child.
No. 134546
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>>134535Stigmata/ Seikon Sousa & Stigmata Aikon by Takahashi Hidebu - something different. About a detective in love with his partner who experiences severe bleeding and other injuries on his body where murder
victims were wounded by their attackers. Quite bloody and morbid. Can't really recommend this enough if you want something different than the usual fare.
Shisei no Otoko by Aniya Yuiji - the bitter relationships of men living in the underbelly of society. Sadistic and masochistic cops, sadistic gangsters. A lot of betrayals.
Saezuru Tori wa Habatakanai by Yoneda Koi - I think literally everyone has read this and it's still ongoing but the story of a very mentally damaged and super masochistic yakuza and his stoic impotent bodyguard.
The
Trigger by Aya Isino - recently divorced man sadistically abuses his neighbour in love with his roommate. A complicated relationship develops.
Ito-san by Sui Karaka - a hitman with a horrifying past tries to rescue a male prostitute with his own terrible past. The prequel I: Episode 0 is perhaps more disturbing.
Ten Ten Shiro Shiro by Hayakawa Nojiko - if you're looking for something remotely similar to Mantis Cage. Historical setting. A young boy is purchased by an old wealthy master for his unique looks. He uses him sexually. Another much younger boy appears on the estate who seems to be lined up as his replacement. He longs for the outside world and his classmate.
Ito mo Tayasuku by Hayakawa Nojiko - strange little one shot about roomates. One has something growing inside him that wants to kill him and the other is determined to prevent it.
Yondaime Ooyamato Tatsuyuki By Scarlet Beriko - a yakuza gets involved with the sexually dominant but suicidal former child prostitute he gave a reason to live when they were both kids. Agrees to become the sex slave of another yakuza, who has love/hate obsession with protagonist's dad, to keep former childhood friend from being entangled again. More comedic tone than content implies.
Kuze Anthology Extra by Ogawa Chise to go with Caste Heaven - Caste Heaven is excellent (aside from a few of the side characters who are boring tbh) but since it has been ongoing for so long and still is unfinished. Extra chapter about a guy who plays dumb but cunningly manipulates his friend to be totally dependant on him.
Ienai Itami o Daite Iru by Ogawa Chise - delinquent younger brother in love with his responsible archer older brother. Gets into fights on purpose to deal with the pent up stress.
Kusatta Rasen/Rotten Spiral by Ogawa Chise- Unhinged violent school bully in a sexual relationship with his psychologically disturbed father.
Ibitsu na Kakera/Broken Pieces by Ogawa Chise - really dark. A younger brother resents his older brother. When he finds out he is in love with him he uses it to make his life as miserable as possible but his brother remains hopelessly devoted.
Shinjuku Lucky Hole by Kumota Haruko - after the sudden death of his father and the debts he leaves behind a high school student is forced into the "care" of an older yakuza who trains him for gay porn. That particular plot is quite ruthless but has a mix of other side stories and characters too.
Boy Meets Maria by Peyo - nice art style. Guy is attracted to drama club head who he thinks is a girl but is a boy in drag. Drama club head has severe past trauma from being brutally raped and threatened as a child while dressed as a girl. Sweeter than the other stuff by far but angsty.
No. 134548
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>>134546For people who want beautiful art and a focus on developed characters I really like Hayakawa Nojiko. She's one of my favourite wholesome creators (but as you can see she can veer into disturbing stuff too). I was sad we didn't get anything more with the creepy sadistic tendencies guy from Kurayami ni Strobe and it's extras, other than an assurance that he would be tormenting poor glasses some more. He was so smug and had issues so of course I wanted more of that couple, lol.
No. 134563
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>>134535>My Little InfernoI loved the characters and their lives in this one and wish there was more of them, maybe also because it
unexpectedly had a nice end to it and nothing awful happened. I especially loved the little backstory for the Mom that was included on the final page, about how she's a bi mountain climber caught between a new love and finding the body of her old flame, that's a story I want to read! Also funny that a manga recommended on lolcow would have pic related OT but anon if you're allowed to supply the photo yourself then you can take a correct looking photo at home using makeup and light editing to get rid of the bruises. There are websites that put your photo into the proper passport format and then you can either print it at home if you have photo paper or order prints online, I did this with my passport photo to save money.
No. 134594
>>134546I love Mods and the prequel/sequel with the pimp.
Ito-San is sooo good. I love when the dudes who have their eyes closed open their eyes when they get serious. So sexy.
Ah Ogawa Chise and her works. I like the extra chapter where you realize that everyone is friends with or at least know each other from school.
No. 134614
>>134548Just read that one and I honestly just wanted the main couple to fuck. They were cute and all, but come on!
I've recently been reading Kan'iteki Pervert Romance (first volume for free:
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/135208/) and it's kind of fun. Yankii who's into pain X dude who's really into the Yankii's face. I like masochists who know what they want.
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>>134614They do, just implied off page. She never really gets hardcore which is frustrating to a lot of people. The most explicit I have seen is when it's rape. Some stuff gets pretty erotic though like in Endou-kun no Jikken Note, picrel.
Same, I love crazy masochists.
No. 134632
>>134606I only have one ship I care abt top/bottom thing and it’s a new feeling bc I’ve never cared about that stuff at all before especially when I was young and just starved for content.
I’m also a mono shipper for the very first time bc of this pairing, I’ll look at other pairings with one of the characters but only if it’s super fucked up cause my brain won’t accept that this character could be in love w anyone else and the other character just doesn’t do it for me at all lmao maybe I’ve regressed during lockdown
No. 134637
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>>134563Lol, that pic. That breed are an obsession on Japanese social media. Yes given the cover art and author I was expecting
some terrible stuff to go down. Especially since it starts off with the protag peeing and puking himself, lol. Also out of context some of the pages make it look like shota because of the size difference and difference in character design, picrel.
I have actually noticed more BL authors slipping in references to bi or gay women. Wish they would do spin offs. Even one shots.Thanks anon. But I wear little to no makeup usually and I'm afraid the amount I would have to put on would make me look like a clown prostitute or drag queen.
No. 134638
>>134413Oh, and I'm pretty sure
Norihiko isn't dead although he is going to be really pissed. I don't think he will go out like that. Though multiple deaths are pretty likely by the end of this.
No. 134660
>>134649Speaking of futekiya, any other JP fags think the translation is a bit stiff? Or am I being autistic?
I got really excited when futekiya launched cus I could finally recommend BL that weren’t localized to my friends, but the sample translations seemed robotic compared to the original text.
No. 134664
>>134660I don't think you are. I've read things before that I thought sounded off (stilted maybe?). But that will be a perpetual fight/struggle in the translation world and Japanese is a particularly complicated one to get right.
I have been reading Japanese novels in English before and also thought am I being an autist about this phrasing? And then showed it to a native speaking Japanese friend and they agreed. The perpetual sperging in academia over anything translated from original Japanese into another language is kind of entertaining tbh. People will write entire essays over just the title and how it's incorrect.
No. 134670
>>134660I just read a sample translation (Get the key to your heart) and it's extremely flat, robotic and boring.
That's the problem with translating Japanese: Either they're overly faithful and it sounds horrible in English or they take liberties and someone's going to sperg. Finding the perfect middle ground is something I haven't seen non-professionals do well.
And then of course you have the "translators" who obviously suck at Japanese and get the entire meaning of the sentence wrong. Sometimes I watch drama with English subs (because that's the only source available for free) and the blatant mistakes I've seen because the translators obviously had no idea what's happening in a scene…
Yeah, I'm going to keep giving my money to Japanese sites, thank you very much.
No. 134678
>>134670I prefer to just pay Japanese creators and sites directly too- if I can. I have cackled at subs before. Like, who wrote these? Sometimes they are blatantly off.
I love when something that is supposedly a professional translation literally sounds like some sort of alien dialect.
>>or they take liberties and someone's going to spergOccasionally the sperging is justified. Not to get too off topic but the most correct Japanese translation fight in my opinion is probably over the title of Osamu Dazai's 'No Longer Human'. Sure it sounds cool, but it changes the author's intent. On a more related note every time I am looking for new editions of Japanese lit I get Bungou Stray Dogs husbando body pillows clogging my search results. I may be a fujo but never in my life have I contemplated buying a body pillow (not judging).
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>>134688I was wary about reading HKL because I didn’t like Color Recipe that much, but I’ve really enjoyed it so far. I’m kind of glad her more recent stuff has been more humorous and lighthearted instead of edgy
No. 134710
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>>134688Is blanc still ongoing? I’m getting anxious as fuck, have only read what’s translated but I can’t deal with her
breaking them up. I understand the story can’t just be endless fluff but there are other options for conflict No. 134713
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Somehow this started out as the most trite stereotypical rape is love BL, but the art, writing and character development just gets better with each volume, I hope it never ends. it’s been running so long that the top in this ends up apologizing in 2016 for the rape is love stuff from when the story started in 2007. Maya is so soft and head over heels in love now.
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>>134704I like it too. Harada has always had the range to do funny and sweet stuff even between her most disturbing works. I loved One Room Angel because it's sweet but really sad. But I would be super aggrieved if she pivoted entirely to more universally appealing content. She isn't for everyone but her more psycho content is pretty irreplaceable whereas there are a lot of authors doing sweet, funny, and charming stories. It would be a huge loss.
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Oshima Kamome's Aien Catharsis (逢縁カタルシス) was released yesterday and I bought it just because I like taisho era men in kimono and the art looked sweet.
Pharmaceutics dealer in Osaka takes on a new driver from Tokyo, finds out that the driver's fallen in love with him. Kind of slow, but I really liked the dynamic between the two and the art. There is sex.
Sample here:
https://www.chil-chil.net/goodsTrial/goods_id/116626/TW: Osaka-ben. The really warm and charming kind though.
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>>134821I'm obsessed with scenes where an aggressive seme wears western clothes and the uke wears traditional clothes that's my kink.
No. 134914
>>134563>BorzoiBased farmer mangaka
>>134776Agreed. I feel like Harada is the author that makes content everyone wants to make but chickens out at the last minute. It's not only smutty sex but also emotional drama that's hard to take in at some points and I love that she treats her audience as adults who can deal with strong emotions bordering on madness. She never crosses the line imo, she just keeps pushing the limits without going too far.
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>>134926I think it's more likely he would Annie Wilkes him with a sledgehammer- Misery style, lol. But I'm not so sure because he's really meek. Might just have a mental break and a total memory lapse. Not a lot of stories of the very subjugated characters snapping and getting violent. Though I wouldn't mind seeing it.
No. 135002
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>>134914>I feel like Harada is the author that makes content everyone wants to make but chickens out at the last minute.
>emotional drama that's hard to take in at some points and I love that she treats her audience as adults who can deal with strong emotions bordering on madness. She never crosses the line imo, she just keeps pushing the limits without going too far.I'm the anon you replied to and I don't really have anything to add because I agree with everything you said. The thought of Harada toning her works down or going a more conventional route has me like picrel. I would be scouring piles of doujin for the occasional gem of psychological drama or waiting for certain authors to release something to my taste very rarely.
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Have been reading this: Akogareta Hito wa 42-sai no Shoufu Deshita by Matsumoto Yoh. I knew I would be into it based on the cover. About an older male prostitute who caters to daddy issues (it's like daddy issues the yaoi). If you are into older/younger pairings give it a try. I think only one chapter has been translated into English but a bunch more have been translated into Chinese.
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>>135540I should mention that it's daddy issues without any actual incest.
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Never Understand was so good. But the last act was terrible. The whole oh woe is me, I have a savior complex/trauma with fugly dudes plus the almost rape scene was completely out of left field. I wish the plot didn't go that way. The first acts were going so well too. I also enjoyed the side story with the dude who was dating the bitch girl who ends up dating a soft boi. I actually wished he ended up with ugly mc despite almost raping him. That one was cute, but also lackluster. Never Understand could've been so much better with the rare ugly main character premise. I wish there were more mangas like that. The only other ugly mc I've read was some nonfujo bdsm one and it was surprisingly educational and sweet. Also, I don't mean ugly as in ugly bastard hentai ugly, but just unconventional. I used to look for ugly mc yaois but they're all conventionally cute dudes. It was kinda annoying. They'd only be "ugly" plotwise but not actually drawn ugly nor have actual consequences cause theyd always have a glow up or be the hidden beauty types. If anyone has any recommendations like Never Understand shoot awayyyy.
No. 135562
>>135551Wow it was so bad. Too long to talk about all things I hate, like rape-attempt plot device, but most important thing is:
abusive relationships getting happy endings. Even two! The worst was the blond and the archer guy. It was so gross. I thought he will realize the blond is fucked up, plus there was a sweet boy having crush on him- but the author made them in love at the end? Like? One of the worst webtoons I've ever read.
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I've used up my BL allowance for the month (I'm trying to control myself).
Some of these I already posted about, but whatever.
Kan'iteki Pervert Romance (簡易的パーバートロマンス): Yankii who can only get off to pain starts a physical relationship with a classmate who is really into the yankii's face. They're on the 4th volume now and it's starting to get a bit mushy.
Sex with my bf feels just as good as getting beat up uwu https://www.cmoa.jp/title/135208/Kawaigaru nara shite mo ii (かわいがるならシてもいい）: Lawyer who is in love with a yakuza gets off to being called cute and treated like a princess, gets only treated that way by one of the yakuza's underlings. Was okay, but quite predictable.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/184477/Kurayami no Strobe (くらやみにストロボ): High school student into photography is also into his childhood friend. Was recommended by an anon here, the romance was very cute but I still wish it had gone further.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/76845/Aien Catharsis (逢縁カタルシス): Taisho era Osaka pharmacist gets a new driver from Tokyo, who falls in love with him. They slowly develop a relationship. I could literally sperg about this one all day, I love it so much, the art is great and I want a sequel. 10 sequels.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/218872/Onegai, Sonna ni Kamanaide (お願い、そんなに噛まないで): Student/cook gets bitten (in the finger) by his hugely attractive co-worker, co-worker tries to get closer to him so he can bite him again. The author has a thing for people who are into one very specific thing (in this case biting), which can sometimes be a bit OTT. I personally liked Mask danshi wa koi shitakunai noni (マスク男子は恋したくないのに) by her better.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/210010/Minato Shouji no Coin Laundry (みなと商事のコインランドリー): Guy close to 30 takes over his grandfather's coinlaundry, a high school student starts doing his laundry there, falls in love with the owner. Was okay, but honestly I like my pairings to either be both students or both adults.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/205885/Derail (ディレイル): Dude has a plan to manipulate his childhood friend into loving him. Childhood friend doesn't need much manipulation. Bought it because it was in the BL awards and the cover looked nice, personally didn't like the MC.
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/212129/Kimi ga Uso wo tsuita (キミがウソをついた): Manga editor keeps his childhood manga artist friend captive in an apartment, he's not allowed any contact with the outside world, but it's okay because … love? I'm to vanilla for "I have to rape you because you dared open the window".
https://www.cmoa.jp/title/153847/ No. 135581
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i know we’re all talking about toxic bls at the moment but i just read go for it nakamura and it was the cutest freaking thing i have read in a long time. i hope the author comes out with more, it has great potential.
lol @ the tentacle scene tho. i was def not expecting that
No. 135586
>>135571I swear the author was like “so I have these other characters, should I just shove them in here or write something only for them??” And then Boom,
toxic couple fucking up the cute stuff.
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Have any fujo anons ever read, watched, or considered BL about wrestling? I’m not one to retardedly sperg about “homoerotic subtext” but WWE, AMW and similar organizations seem like they’re unintentionally full of fujobait. There’s bound to be doujins but I’ve yet to explore this concept, I wanted to ask around first. The Korean BL webtoon scene seems to have a good amount of support for bara and bara-esque bodies so I feel like there might be something there.
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Anyone else here just not enjoy or even "get" any bl content with 3D men, maybe its cause I don't like 3D men in General (probably one of the major factors) but I feel that live action content(regardless of genre) can never live up or even come close to the infinite possibilities and beauty of illustrations and aetwork, its one of the reasons why I hate ultra realistic fan art of ships
Like I got into Hannigram thanks to fan art and Ao3 and even binged watched the show so I could understand the full plot and references, but In my mind its always tumblr artwork that I imagine and accept and not the actual 3D characters In the show
I know I sound autistic as hell
No. 135856
>>135849may i add
>seme cums inside despite the uke telling him not to>rapey babbling about how the body (the boner) is more honest and the bottom totally wants to get fuckedand the one i hate the most:
>uke claims that cumming inside will give him an upset stomach No. 135905
>>135856>>135870As far as I know cum in your ass can give you diarrhea and the cramps may make you a little sick. You could also get sick if you swallow too much. So that's kinda accurate.
>>135889I usually interpret it as their dicks being wet because they're horny unless they're like… showing that the ass is wet. No, asses don't self lubricate. I always appreciate if a BL shows that the couple uses lube and proper cleaning and preparations.
>>135903The human asshole MAY actually be a sexual component in men and bond fucking (with the prostate positioning and all), but that's another story.
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>>135836>>135850>>135853>>135871Same here, glad I'm not the only one kek
No. 135933
>>135927I mean I'm disgusted by real Anal sex as well, but in 2D Yaoi and BL stories I really don't care if It's unrealistic, cause I know for a fact that this isn't how actual gay men act or behave or even have sex, so the self lubricating/cleaning asshole really isn't an issue for me and most normal BL readers
only like autist aydens, libfems and certain really degenerate fujos want BL stories to be more like real life gay sex
No. 135942
>>135933Exactly
BL is art made by the better sex, for the better sex
Real life homosexual males fuck everything in sight, get diseases and have gross fetishes. I mean there’s always been faghags but scrote + scrote = doublescrote. At least they only sexually harass eachother for the most part.
No. 135996
>>135942are you homophobechan from earlier on in the thread kek
say what you want about anal but at least men actually have a prostate up there.
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>>135836Honestly what's even worse is real life adaptations of manga. They will never be as cute as the idealized drawings.
Even if the drawings are as fugly as with Cherry Magic.
No. 136005
>>136001The side story characters who were somehow even more awkward than the main pairing shared a kiss with zero chemistry or romantic tension or anything.
The literal premise of the story is "We have magical powers because we're virgins, let's pursue sex" but they couldn't even kiss, most likely because of the actor's contracts. Uuugh.
No. 136025
>>136016ntayrt but I think there's a huge difference between BL anal (= vaginal sex, but in the butt) and actual anal (= a dick up somewhere none belongs).
While I appreciate when they actually show lube being used, when they don't it doesn't bother me. It's not an actual asshole, it doesn't have to follow the laws of anatomy of the real world.
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>>136039I assume most normal people who read BL are aware of the fact that BL characters are very far removed from real life gay men or real human beings in general
I think only either very autistic or dumb and underage girls correlate actual gay men and male homosexuality with BL, and cause of this we end up with Aydens or faghag fujos
No. 136060
>>136050>>136046>>136057I mean its a problem with fictional content in general, but with Anime/Manga it seems to be like a 100x times more perverse
I mean what the fuck can we do other then give frequent lectures to autists that this isn't how actual gay men act or behave and that these are fictional beings that are extremely different from human beings in general
No. 136061
>>136031I’m homophobic (towards males) as fuck and I literally don’t care
I love sexualizing cute males and male bodies, not aids-riddled 3DPD.
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>>136063nta but KEK literally how is that sad? Do you know men irl? I like BL and know gay scrotes irl too, but any man worth anon’s time should have to prove that to her individually, faggot or not. And she doesn’t even owe every or any man that chance to prove he’s “one of the good guys” and “not sassy.” It doesn’t make sense to be worried for the sake of a couple hypothetical gays irl when she clearly doesn’t even care about 3D males to begin with.
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion,
but [gay] men aren’t extra entitled to your sympathy or understanding just because you enjoy content written (by women) about fictional homosexual scrotes that are so unrealistic that you can’t even connect them to real life people to begin with. Btw my real life gay friends are totally just like DMMD characters. Real down to earth guys.
I wish they’d remake the anime adaption of this. No. 136071
>>136061it’s fine if you dislike men but calling gay men aids riddled is homophobic.
personally i prefer being friends with gay men because at least they don’t have ulterior motives. unlike the majority of straight men i’ve encountered who only want to fuck me and don’t have any genuine desire to be friends with me. woman are superior though
No. 136073
>>136069I'm with you, but honestly how is this different from scrotes liking porn (2D or 3D) and being misogynists? Because that seems sadly common.
For me the fact that in BL I get to just look at cute men without the whole gender dynamic between men and women playing any role at all is what makes it so wonderfully escapist.
(Not homophobe-chan lol)
No. 136083
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>>136069Ata and I don’t think it’s weird because unless I misunderstood, that anon simply hates men. So I didn’t find her comment all that hostile either because saying crazy rude shit about men isn’t a concept that generally bothers me.
>>136074>in an ideal world misogyny and homophobia wouldn’t exist I agree. But when it comes to solving these issues, I don’t think random fujos are the necessary place to start. Especially in a soon to be locked thread with 1 single (as far as I can tell) openly homophobic (as it pertains to males) anon. This is a good discussion topic though.
No. 136086
>>136083i don’t think there’s anything wrong with being rude about men. but using homophobic insults specifically (all that shit about them having diseases ) rubs me the wrong way. it’s like saying you hate men but then using thinly veiled racism instead of criticizing men in general.
no one can change homophobe-chan’s opinion but it’s just.. odd to be homophobic and critical of gay sex in a thread about gay romance/erotica
i have no idea what type of BL that poster reads but considering how many BL stories involve men who are rapists it’s kind of weird to be critical of real life gay men for the exact same shit that characters in BL do.
No. 136091
>>136083is someone working on a new thread? what should the thread pic be?
let’s try and leave this discourse in this thread lol
No. 136094
>>136093have you read this thread, a lot of us don't want or need 3D shit here
no one but aydens and faghags care about your uwu cute korean boys
No. 136101
>>136095I don't even like live fictional males, I'm kinda terrified and disgusted by real men, Its not a irrational fear
fictional idealized(even some
Toxic ones) BL stories about 2D stories give me an out, so to say
No. 136113
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>>136089does this even need to be asked KEK
>>136100Yeah but she might also hate it because at the end of the day the only people profiting are also male… our gal can’t catch a break.
>>136086Overall I don’t disagree except for this part
>it’s like saying you hate men but then using thinly veiled racism instead of criticizing men in general. On the contrary, rather than these two ideas being anything alike at all, I think her disdain for homosexual men is purely based in a hatred for men exclusively, and alone. None of what she’s said can be construed or extended to apply to women who would be caught in the crossfires, because unlike a racial identity women don’t fit into a homosexual male equation. And it’s perfectly reasonable because realistically, there’s no chance anon has never interacted with men in real life to base her opinions off of, as it can easily be assumed all of us have. She hates fags because they are men. And that is not the key identifier, it’s the
only identifier; they are 3d men (who like men.) If you think about it, that’s pretty hardcore. Jokes aside this can also be applied to the actions performed in BL, as it’s purely fiction executed by fictional 2d characters. Gay men irl aren’t raping because of BL and rapists wouldn’t stop if BL stopped having rape plots either. I’m usually autistically critical of ships and shit but at the end of the day, what happens in a 30 page chapter of a yaoi written by an anonymous Japanese woman on Renta! is not going to have real life consequences for regular gay men or women simply by existing. I think it’s fair anyanon could enjoy that trash content and feel disdain for when it’s applied irl, especially when the sole subject/assailant/etc adjective is definitively a man.
I appreciated you coming to this topic with nuance, and I hope despite my retardation it was clear I don’t wish you nor misandrychan any ill will. I think you’re right that no one’s mind will change so it’s good to close it here.
Her level of sincerity may not be for everyone but kudos to anon for refusing to pull her punches even in the name of BL KEK
No. 136116
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>>136113This is why I come here depraved and rare bl recs and essays like this.
No. 136375
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what about this as new thread pic since the official eng ver just came out
No. 136559
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>>136378Do something pretty like the inside cover art from the レトロBL/ Retro BL anthology or just go the meme route again.
No. 136596
>>136559That's a pretty picture that actually makes it clear what the thread is about.
>>136375 could be anything.
No. 136628
>>136111I really miss them too. I don't know anything about kpop, I've never listened to it and I didn't know who the people were, but reading anons about the actual industry was really interesting.
I don't understand why it was banned
No. 136632
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Any pairings that you guys can't do? Like it just grosses you out or you just plain hate it for whatever reason. I see so many doujins lately of the murderer sensei and the main character student from Erased and it keeps freaking me out. And someone on /a/ (presumably a guy?) posted Yuji Itadori impending bloody rape at gunpoint yaoi by Megumi's psycho Dad and I just can't… Even I have limits.
No. 136653
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I think the thread pic should be meme-related in some way. Also bring back OG nosebleed girl. I care about her and think she should be the thread mascot.
No. 136753
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>>136653I'd also prefer a more meme-y thread OP
No. 136858
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>>136753The girls in 19 Days reacting to wanton displays of homoness. I'm glasses.
No. 136864
>>136858The top pic of this should be our new thread pic.
I'm the girl on the far left with her phone.
No. 137065
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Could you please recommend me a good yaoi that is like junjou romantica or sekaiichi hatsukoi but
>has no rape
>isn't about underaged people
>is actually cute
>its not from a popular series, aka it is its own thing
>no one crossdresses or is a troon
All I can think about is dokyuusei et al but I already read that
No. 137066
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I present to you the next thread pic
No. 137074
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got an edit of this manhwa in my recommended and went to read it. it was simple without much drama and mostly sex scenes which is what i wanted kek. also the slightly kinky bottom directs the cute top .overall i found it cute and liked how there was emphasis on consent
No. 141299
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>>105416Have you tried searching "DQN" when looking for manga or doujins? It's Japanese meme speak for delinquent.
"ヤンキー" might work too.
Most of the results will probably be filthy breeders or futa but might be worth a shot.
agreed, it's a crime that there isn't more of it.