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I thought I would check up on hyuna. Still posting thinspo and still getting comments congratulating her on her supposed weight gain. I miss her hooker style
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yeri is so pretty like that. i don't understand why stylists force her to wear crop top+ skirt/shorts combo which make netizens bash her body. She also has the prettiest face in Red Velvet imo
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I don't believe Lisa is naturally skinny…
vid related watch the similarities >>31078
you go around calling anybody who is not praising jaehyun having a "vendetta" and also expect to not be called a stan that you are ? funny and cute.
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this is the first time i have posted about nct or at least jaehyun but just by one post i get like 10 ppl policing me it is not hard to see that jaehyun has ya'll by your balls
the particular way he is so smug about his hair transplant is just funny so i just wanted to share the vid but i guess we should just leave him alone cuz some nct fags think he is dull
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Don’t know if this was posted last thread, it probably was, but JJY pleaded guilty to the spycam charges. He’s still under investigation with Choi Jong Hoon for rape charges.https://www.asiaone.com/asia/singer-jung-joon-young-admits-illicit-filming-sex-videos-seeks-settlementhttp://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190510000629
Also, Roy Kim is still apparently set to graduate from Georgetown but he’s denying that he’s preparing…
I guess the school hasn’t expelled him yet. http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190509000754
roy kim should be expelled wtf is wrong with usa
but the jonghyun guy from cnblue is outright getting away with it he doesn't get mentioned at all (he is the one who has clips of publicly groping girlgroups' boobs and ass)
There’s a petition still going around on campus, I think.
Jonghyun has been enlisted since August 2018 so maybe that’s why we haven’t heard anything.
From the way some people talk, it seems like they can’t do much if men have enlisted but I’m not sure.
I think we can still be happy to know that the public won't ever give them a chance again and that they're seen as the shame of Korea. (Except for crazy fans).
This still won't make up for the disgusting shit they've done.
Bunch of sociopaths…pretty sure they don't even feel sorry.
Nah naturally "extremely" underweight/skinny people exist. I eat like shit, don't exercise, and I never gain weight lol. My mom was the same until she had kids. My friend too.
However I don't think she's one of those people. She doesn't carry weight in the right places and looks genuinely ana. Naturally skinny people still have pockets of fat/untoned muscle. Pretty sure I'm skinnier than her but I still look less spooky
Probably because they're salty he's more popular than their bias. They always word their posts the same way>npd>ego>smug>how does anyone find this appealing??>OBVIOUS hair transplant/wig>if a female idol did this…>no idea how I stumbled across this vid 2 hours after it was posted, not a nctfag btw!
Etc. Maybe it's yutachan making a come back. Nct is a boring fucking group. If there weren't so many nctfags in here, no one ever would've brought them up aside from like a one off comment about Taeyong being the poster boy for the gangnam oppa look or Yuta's scary, busted face.
Someone tell these companies that dressing idols in these short clothes that almost exposes their underwear wont make the "concept" mature.
How about you dress them in comfortable clothes but start giving them decent songs in which they don't sound like they're in middle school?
But who am I kidding, they know exactly what they're doing.
Lmfao chill. I didn't say I'm better looking nor am I trying to "one up" her. I'm perfectly healthy btw. I just happen to be really skinny.
I only pointed out it's possible to be really skinny since another anon said it's not, and that lisa doesn't look like she fits that category
Wtf is wrong with you? She looks freaky as fuck. In my previous post i even said that. Homegirl does not look healthy and looks like she has an ED.
Learn to read and take the stick out your ass lmao
Lol like i said, naturally skinny people and true anachans hold weight differently. If she were naturally skinny, shed still have some fat pockets and basically look untoned. She doesn't, she looks like a skeleton lol. Which is why i said i dont think she's naturally skinny, she looks like someone with an ED.
Idk why that's so hard for yall to understand but ok. Stay salty for whatever reason
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Is this edited? She looks very scary. It's like she has muscle with no fat. She's always been really thin but this is unsettling.
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someone tell them…
You seem lost.
But yeah this thread is mostly hating the way idols look because it’s full of failed anachans and self righteous ps spotters. This is where they project.
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lmao replies vary between ARMYs in denial, ARMYs making excuses and ARMYs getting salty and attacking people pointing out how bad this note is
He seems the most invested in BTS's current success rn so maybe their current situation has him feeling more confident and desperate for attention (esp with all the attention he's been getting from American celebs lately) and his attention whore ways has skyrocketed.
They should get as much in as possible because it doesn't look like these celebs take them that seriously. How many of them actually promote their music/songs as opposed to just taking a pic with/tweeting the group?
The tweet thread is deleted now but someone that worked at the Soldier Field stadium tour date said Bighit banned all the trained female staff from working 15 minutes before the start of the show because of a 'no females allowed backstage policy.' This includes the showrunner with 10 years plus experience (who had worked with Beyonce, etc) because she was a female. So she had to be radio-ing in and organizing from off set or something. It apparently was total chaos.
the original tweet thread that was deleted but here's what was said:https://twitter.com/btstarot/status/1127567011746320385
If this is true bighit must believe every female that comes into contact with bts has secret designs to try to get into their pants regardless of their work, station in life/profession/culture etc.
I wonder if Korea has a culture of women joining idol companies as 'staff' for that very reason but who knows.
>>31201>I wonder if Korea has a culture of women joining idol companies as 'staff' for that very reason
This is not about bts but there were speculations that some female managers were obsessive fans.
I only vaguely remember but I think fans even had proof and honestly it doesn't seem too far fetched cause it can't be that difficult to get a job that basically consists of being a glorified servant for a bunch of people.
This is fucked but I also kind of…get it, in a way?
Obviously I don’t know the company’s reasoning but it seems like they’re trying to prevent any/all potential scandals aka protecting their investment. BTS seems incredibly controlled in that way and that might be why we haven’t heard any real scandals involving women (yet). Also, they can’t control or threaten or do invasive background checks the same way they can with Korean nationals.
Sounds like BigHit has a lot of paranoia after the GLaM incident, too.
I wonder if the same rules apply for Korean concerts?
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god he's even uglier in motion
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He looks like Kris now kek. It will never fail to astonish me how ugly SM male idols are allowed to be meanwhile 90% of SM female idols demolished their faces to fit fucked up beauty standards.
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Sorry but I’m picturing this guy trying to make people take him seriously and I can’t, I can’t!!!
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Samefag but this is literally paid content. Wonder how you sleep at night knowing you are funding a degenerate industry at best and organized crime at worst
nta but wow did bts or nct steal your gf or something mate we are all here to criticize their stupidity but we actually need material in order to do that and when someone posts some anons are going off saying they're stans
i liked this thread better when we were hating on kpop idols rather than each other tbh
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According to rumours it's one of the BlackPink members. Which is very hard to see them lower their selves to be seen with this
I criticize male and female idols both with gusto and i am neither fat nor a ratmy - but sweetie it looks like you are the one who is a secret blackpink stan
also everyone in kpop is a plastic monster regardless of gender
Relax it aint that serious.
Also yeah ppl are saying it's V and Jisoo. I see them dating but I don't think Dispatch would go against their contract with Bighit to reveal them.
I wonder where this rumour even comes from.
First of all, where are you seeing a Dispatch couple announcement? I can't find anything about it, so link please.
Second, not sure how many of you are new to kpop but dating scandals have been super tame for like the past few years. Kai and Jennie were probably the most scandalous but there was literally just a pic of them walking together? At least when Baekhyun and Taeyeon were exposed, Dispatch had a pic of Taeyeon noona kissing Exo-Ls precious oppa in her Mercedes. Nothing can compare to way back then when Exo-Ls were so deluded and convinced that Taeyeon was evil and manipulating poor Baek, and that Taeyeon was a hoe who had dated sooo many idols in SM so Baekhyun was just a pawn.
So yeah, not expecting much from this. If anything, it'll probably be a 2nd gen idol that is washed up and dating some chaebol/actor/athlete, or an unheard of 3rd gen idol who isn't even known. Dispatch loves to exaggerate shit like "it's a TOP idol" when and when it's revealed it's like…Got7 or Momoland, lmao.
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Not sure how many of you all watch PD X 101 but the voting = ranking shit is so annoying. Clearly the producers of this show aren't dividing screen time equally and they have their favorites for sure. I feel bad personally for people like Choi Soohwan who's super talented and deserves to be in the final lineup, but is already ranked #56 despite being impressive to the judges and being in A group.
Theoretically speaking, if you were to go on this show, it doesn't even matter to be talented to debut in the final lineup. All you need is a sob story and some charm, and some favoritism from the producers of the show. Bonus points if you're good looking. Best example is the slope-shouldered Kim Mingyu (pic related) who is so utterly talentless but looks like a poor man's Cha Eunwoo.
Comments on the show are shaming this season for being devoid of "visuals" but this is a show that is supposed to be about singing and dancing. It'd make far more sense to put the highest ranked in talent in the final group and to create a supergroup similar to a 10-member TVXQ.
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I has shocked to see that Soo Hwan didn't move up. He's still in the same spot since the first ep. Korea really does sleep on talent. Also kek on the YG trainees receiving low grades.
There will never be a group like T5XQ again and that's because these companies don't have their priorities in check and neither do Korean fangirls' whose psychotic tastes dominate the decision making. It's ridiculous to think that they even want to make a global group when they won't even allow international fans to vote.>>31294
I hate halsey but even I think she can do better.
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I never said that PD48 groups are below debuted 3rd gen groups, but they definitely have the well-rounded talent within at least 5 guys to form a supergroup like TVXQ. The issue is though, those guys won't fit the beauty standards and will be forgotten about. But honestly TVXQ aside from Yunho and post-PS Changmin and Jaejoong, are kind of ugly/average yet they're still remembered as legends.>>31295
I hate that I'm kind of becoming a fan of the poor kid. His story is actually kind of inspiring yet he didn't get plastic surgery before going on the show like Cha Junho (pic), who on the other hand, was a total eyesore but now 'passes' as a "visual" and is ranked not too low below #10 since he looks like Infinite L sans a few chromosomes. The weird thing is that Cha Junho is still ranked highly despite his "before" pictures getting leaked, and he's a confirmed uggo so I'm not sure what people are seeing in him as he's useless too.>>31301
That's a good point. If international fans were allowed to vote, how much do y'all wanna bet that Peak would be #1?
this HAS to be photoshop
I'm going to throw up
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Seungri trying to cover his new bracelets
Yup. I don’t think we’ve heard much, if any, news involving chaebols either. iirc at least one chaebol bastard was involved in some chat and I don’t know if we got his name.
Anyway, Moon’s administration has been censoring the press and throwing nonsense charges at them and the public for the past few years. You just know they’re involved in some shit.
Yeah, it’s convenient that there are high-profile celebrities involved so that they can let the case play out and have them face punishment (which they totally deserve, don’t get me wrong). It’s allowing other people involved to get away without the public getting angry that “nothing is being done”
(also, did they finish announcing all the members of that group chat?)
I think so? I’m even entirely sure who was in the original chat anymore because a lot of people have been implicated as a result of it, some of them not proven to be tied to any sexual assault/rape charges.
There are a lot of names.
Why does the third singer (Rose) sound like that? >>31277
They went in too deep and touched a nerve
I saw someone say that her friend went to a blackpink concert and rose sounded like a dying rubber duck>>31349
Ugh their japanese pronunciation is so bad
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Also, I went through the seungri hashtag on twitter in hopes of finding more information but the new tweets literally are all stans congratulating him.
How are there so many? Are they trolls?
It's fucking insane.
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They just can't stop
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>>31408>way too cool for it
Nope, BTS is same level as Eurovision trash.
>>31393>one username>seungris cult
they'll never realize how fucked up this all was until it happens to them personally and they see that their idols are just dogshit in human skin>>31397
yeah they saw the word dismissed and went ape shit thinking hes all cleared.
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looks like hyuna is preparing for a summer comeback, seems like she’s continuing with her usual shtick
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Lol this fandom is going to eat itself
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Excuse me, but what the actual fuck
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She's 23, I didn't know anything about her (Yooa from Oh My Girl) so I googled what she used to look like and I'm genuinely sad she destroyed lips that cute.
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Thanks, I hate it
This is what she used to look like guys
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I'm actually disgusted
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Double eyelid surgery looks disgusting up close
Your best bet afaik is to head over to r/kpop
They’re collecting all the info they can get and have a timeline. There are a couple translators there too, I think.
I don’t know much about Lisa but I support her for this reason.
Stick it to them, Lis.
It looks disgusting from far too>>31456
Is she the worst treated foreign idol rn? I feel like there might be others too but I can't remember who they are…
I've heard that she also earns less than the Korean members. I don't know if this applies to every foreign idol or if it's a yg thing.
Would be fucked up though considering her fans are literally the main reason they're so relevant and sell out concerts.
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If the rumors about Jennie disliking her/mistreating her are true it sure would be hilarious in a karma way.>more followers than you on instagram, she's the BP member with the most followers>gets thousands of stans and praise while blinks are slowly turning against you for being lazy>you go to Coachella and famous people give attention to her
Probably misremembering, but the way royalties are distributed to foreign idols (or foreigners in the music industry) is done on a country to country basis, and certain countries (including Thailand) will acknowledge one revenue of royalties but not another, and failure of a country to negotiate royalty agreements for its own idols fucks their pay over. CLC’s Sorn (another Thai idol) made a video about it a while back. She mentions another foreign CLC member who is impacted by the same issue.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this is in effect to purposely screw over foreigners in the music industry, and is probably one of the many mechanisms in place to do that. >>31466
Sucks that idols will screw with the features they’re praised for. I still miss her monolids
Idk if it's just me but to me Jisoo also seems kinda condescending sometimes, could be just her personality though.
But whenever Lisa says something or even rose I notice that Jisoo and Jennie just look at each other and laugh about it.
The whole dynamic overall is just so bad. I mean has anyone actually seen Jisoo and rose interact with each other at all? No wonder there are so many solo stans. If the group itself is so unstable how can you expect the fandom to be…
Is the other foreign CLC member Elkie? I think she's from Hong Kong iirc.
Makes sense, also probably one of the reasons why many Chinese idols try to build careers in China while still in their groups, even if they get shit about it.
Like the foreign girls from WJSN are just bit parts in the group, but Meiqi sold over 1 million copies of her EP in China within 19 minutes of release. No way is she coming back to WJSN after Rocket Girls lmao.
Cause even the lesser known idols become somewhat popular in China afterwards just cause they have the title "kpop idol".
The Chinese entertainment industry is huge and thus competitive af, so it's way easier to get your name out there first then enter the Chinese market.
Many foreign idols do get scouted by Korean companies though. Like all these auditions in different countries aren't there just to find Korean talent, it's to find foreign talent too. And companies use the idols to gather fans in different countries as they cannot sustain themselves through Korean fans alone. Look at any YouTube comment section of a group with any Thai member for example, all the comments will be about them.
Some are also k-pop fans themselves
Companies exploit that fanbase while paying dust to the actual foreign idol. Cheng Xiao from WJSN (to use them as an example again) has zero lines in some of their songs, but they have no qualms in farming her out to variety to show off her backflips. The8 for Seventeen and Amber from f(x) got put on a show (can't remember the name) that got literal Korean kids to "teach" them how to speak Korean and treated them like they were stupid as if they couldn't speak Korean already.
Foreign idols go through so much more shit then the Korean members that I don't blame any of them for leaving or wanting to have a career in their homeland too.
They do interact, but it's probably just for the cameras.
Do you have videos of Jennie and Jisoo being bitchy to the other members?
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>tfw when you have so much filler and botox your face can't move correctly
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On a side note, the pattern of that dress has been recycled so many times. It's like there are so many idols wearing the same thing, even though they're technically different. Pic related is one example.
That dress does look really uncomfortable. Too short for proper leg movement, and it keeps slipping down since the clear straps are for the bra not the dress. She's also their youngest member????
I love this group but that's skeevy
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Looks like he actually did the hair transplant but it looks weird somehow, also the nasolabial folds are gone again kek
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The "classy the beatles tribute" thing is so cringey though. I had to look up what actual normies think of bts & the beatles on quora
It wouldn't bother me so much if people took the kpopalypse approach (one of the very few things I agree with him on) and said they don't care about live vocals but just how something sounds on a record. But so many kpoppies try to pretend people like Rosé or Jimin are master vocalists, which is hilariously pathetic. I get the distinct feeling if they weren't in k-pop they would be dragged by these same people.
And then there are groups like ITZY where all the vocal talent is bizarrely located in the three non-vocalists. I*ZONE's lack of talent really gets me because they were picked from a fucking audition show. How come their vocals are much shittier than GFRIEND and CLC?
This made me remember when Kai from Exo "bullied" that girl from Gfriend by saying her dance is too easy.
While girlgroups have to deal with gross fans and can't say one thing without getting into a scandal, talentwise the bar for them couldn't be any lower. You have 10+ girls on a stage and literally
all they do is walk around, move their arms a bit and mumble something. Absolutely laughable.
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lol please stop lying to yourselves.
also have you guys ever noticed that when a normie compliments a bts song or performance armies jump on them saying "thank you!!" and "please check out their other songs you'll love them!!" like they're trying to recruit as many people in their cult as possible lol
You forgot to give credit anon:
The Boys (~Kids Bop Edition~)
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I know we're kinda over "jimin looks like mozzarella" moment but I can't stop laughing at this.
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He resembles moon hee jun a lot in this pic (both are/were the ugliest, popular member of their group)
I mean I think some groups have legitimately strong friendships usually due to suffering together since a young age. Like Seventeen who were all shoved into a dorm together when some of them were like 9 years old.
But it is clear that many relationships are purely business. Idols are also technically competing with each other for attention even in the same group, which no one seems to think about. Imagine all the catfights in ggs because of that
Lmao are you saying this because you've seen some of their recent vlogs?
(I agree with you btw, expect for that it doesn't look like they care for each other on camera either, let alone off camera)
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We all know who is YG's side girl, the one who gets all the outfits, the one that doesn't get in trouble for being lazy as shit.
In her mind, she doesn't have to do anything anymore, daddy YG got her back.
i remember when oh my girl debuted and i
thought she was so beautiful but what the fuckk did she do to herself holy cow>>31762
it was always played up as SNSD being ~SUPER~ close but it was so obvious that some of it was sorta fakey. i don't remember much about it being called out as the opposite other then hyoyeon being bullied and attempting suicide claims.
given the fact that snsd is a 9 member group it's unlikely that they're all buddy buddy. it's probably like a few people at a time who have closer friendships / stronger animosities with one another than with the other members
sort of like how in blackpink it's lisa & rosé vs jennie & jisoo
No one remembers the "Taengsic" ship that was like…non-existent? I think only like 14 people had their badge on OH when SONEs were everywhere, because Taeyeon and Jessica literally had like no fan service moments at all, and the pictures they did have together were so fake. Then the Taengsic shippers all hid them when Jessica's departure came out. I remember the stories about the formation of TTS initially including Jessica but because Taeyeon didn't get along with Jessica, they put Seohyun in the sub-unit instead. I remember also the gifs of Sunny looking sad/pissed off every time she'd promote post-OT9, and all the gossip that she was still friends with Jessica and was miserable without her.
I don't think much of it is true but it makes me so nostalgic to remember that it was always Taeyeon (and Tiffany as Taeyeon's own Gretchen Weiners) vs Jessica. That's just how everyone saw it though.
Damn I feel kinda like a loser for remembering all of this.
The biggest and most obvious case of gg beef was Taeyeon vs Jessica. Youtube alone has so many gems but anyone who kept up with the group could easily see that Jessica was slowly being iced out. Jessica was supposed to be in TTS, which was supposed to be TTJ (which makes sense since the subunit was supposed to be about the popular vocalists and Jessica was far more popular than Tiffany and her voice more distinct) but she got booted for Seoyeon because of Taeyeon. I also heard Jessica was jealous towards any one in the group who got close to her guy friends, like 2pm's Taecyeon and cat fights happened after that. Their last KCON before Jessica got booted you could cut the tension with a knife.
It always makes me wonder what's really going on in this big groups. Like in T-ara Hwayoung's sister threatened to cut up the face of one of the new additions, Areum. THe only difference between T-ara and other ggs is that they got caught by putting their own business on twitter, which is probably why companies control group accounts now. But I can imagine there being some jealousy and sloppy shit. Like in 2nd gen, people spilled that idols would switch partners between the groups (like a 2pm member banging a GG member, then breaking up and banging another GG member while she cheats on him with another 2pm member). Messy shit like that.
Tldr, massive amounts of drama follow these kpop groups and bullying is also probably pretty common.
In the older days, groups fought hard to be as good as they could be because they knew if they fucked up and didn't succeed they and their families weren't eating. Didn't Yunho sleep in train stations before he debuted in TVXQ? It's no wonder then new idols perform and sound like shit on stage. There's no desperation since they could quit today and just go be insta models and jet set across the world on mommy's dime.>>31773
I feel the sorriest for Maknae line esp jimin and jungkook because it's obvious they crave the spotlight and attention more than anyone in the group and will probably be unable to cope once they age, the fame goes away and the fillers catch up with them to fuck up their faces.
wait wait wait, i hope you guys who complain about kpop outfits being too slutty, or male kpop stars being creepy aren't the same people watching guys rap about bitches and hoes and girls doing stripper dances.
Because I'd laugh my ass off then.
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I wonder was 2015 the year of Korean music? I swear everything was gold then, you had Sixteen, Unpretty Rapstar, Dean debuting with Zico, AKMU debuting, LeeJinAh appearing on KPOP stars 4, Seventeen.
That year was killer
anon, now that you bring it up i remember it better. Sunny always looked like she was annoyed/sad after jessica left so i always personally thought (a tinfoil of mine from my SNSD days im ashamed) that the in group bullying of jessica moved to sunny. after lionheart the group just fell apart and im kinda glad they have disbanded lowkey>>31774
when u look away from taemin's blow up doll lips that could block the sun just a lil you can see that. it's almost like. its almost like there is more music artists korea then just uwu kpop idols
I've seen clips of him from that trainee show where he's has that creepy grin when young girl perform suggestive dances in front of him.
He's definitely fond of her and other female trainees but as her parents I'd be worried for her, instead of trying to push her by all means.
Umm…duh? Like do most people actually think a whole country has nothing but "uwu kpop idols"? Tbh korea's music scene and artists hold no actual interest for me but it'd be stupid to assume that shitty idols are all there is to it lol>>31790
What the fuck and yuck. Honestly it makes me laugh hearing (reading actually, no way in hell did I turn the audio on) these types of lyrics from kpop idols, especially twinky ones like bts
It's so awkward seeing them in these talk shows where guests usually try to be entertaining and witty with the host.
I can't even bear to watch the interview; their past ones gave me strong second-hand embarrassments already.
They should really disallow him from appearing on reality shows after the mixnine fiasco, he's ruined so many trainees hopes at debuting, and it's an open secret that he's a pedo
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0:50 is the creepiest reaction ew
pic is from later on
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the worst is that you hear his giggling at this part, its so disturbing
Of course RM wrote this….
Although it looks like this was written in 2012 so he would have been like…18, then.
kek Twice's only best cover was Taemin' Move.
I don't know why they can't put that much effort into other covers.
I like the cover too although their voices leave a LOT to be desired, they are so monotone and boring. The all sound exactly the same.
Also that white face on Momo lol come on, she has a lot of skin showing, we can clearly see that's not her tone.
Jungyeon would be Hyoyeon. The uggo-chan.
Sana is the most popular when it comes to visuals, right? So Yoona?
Once again they perform a song where Suga and jhope have terrible parts…lol at Suga who looks like he’d rather be having a panic attack in the green room.
I hate saying this but RM did the best but that’s only because he’s bland as fuck.
JK was the most stable I guess and just because Jin and V “”can”” sing like that, doesn’t mean they should.
Jimin was Jimin, there’s nothing to say.
Why does it sound like they have their studio vocals in the background? It just makes their wrong notes stand out more and is confusing to the ear. It didn't sound like the rappers had that and their parts sounded alright.
Also why did it feel like Jimin had the most lines and screen time in that song when he actually just can't sing. I'll never understand how he gets more lines when both Jin and V are better than him.
Kek people are finally writing articles on how shitty ARMYs are
producers steal shit all the time.
Grimes stole the entire arrangement of Loona Love4EVA from I.O.I.'s Very Very Veryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdxvD7r58nghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIWpr3tHzII
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these "sexy" faces he pulls on stage are so embarrassing and make him look retarded
Oh ffs Lisa stans take it to the general thread. This CinderLisa narrative is annoying af. It sucks that Korea is xenophobic and that non Korean members are treated shittily. It sucks that Jennie's CEO mom makes sure her untalented daughter is promoted above all others. But aside from her nationality Lisa isn't any different from the others. She's a wealthy (seriously if she didn't have money she would never have even made it into the YG or probably Korea), untalented, plain af Thai girl (there are tons of absolutely gorgeous Thai women and she isn't one of them) who isn't that attractive even after a nosejob, eyejob, skin lightening, and god knows what else. She keeps herself very very thin because her figure is only selling point. She can't sing for shit and her rapping is ridiculous. And despite being the main dancer, her dancing is only mediocre.
So no. She isn't the only decent one in BP because none of them are decent.
she is literally the only member of bp who seems like she belongs in a kpop group. the others are absolutely void of charisma. >>31923
i'm not a stan. i don't enjoy blankpink's content at all. she's not especially talented but she's the only member who is competent (not great) and seems like she even wants to be there.
>>31910>most visual member that is basically the only one with modelesque proportions
Can you SEAshitters who stan Lisa GTFO already?
You faggots aren't even trying to hide anymore. There's a general k-pop thread, go suck her clit there and stop making shit up. Fucking embarrassing. >>31914
Shut the fuck up already
the virulent anti sperging is more annoying than the little actual stanning that goes on in these threads. this is a critical thread, not a "ALL OPINIONS THAT DIFFER FROM MINE ARE INVALID" thread. My opinion on lisa is neutral, I don't care about her or her group at all.>then why do you consume it?
i'm a kpop fan(ish). i like to see what is current.>Why do you know enough about their performances to consider her "the only member who is competent"? Why do you consider her a good idol and the others void of charisma?
because of performances that get posted here, usually the "jennie is slacking" ones. i don't seek them out myself.
Damn, you’re a miserable cunt. Don’t even need to be a fan of anyone to see how pathetically shallow and judgemental you are.
Complain about stans being insane all you want but to the everyone else, you look just as crazy.
I haven't listened to this yet but I just wanted to say that pretty much all Korean singing shows probably use pitch correction and other methods to make the singers sound flawless. They probably edit it too afterwards before airing it.
There were a few clips from masked singer where the singer sounded different in the background when the focus was on the guests who reacted but I'm too busy to look for it rn; I'll post it later if I find it.
I didn't know which videos to post so I'll link this thread which has a few good examples: https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/why-arent-we-allowed-to-watch-king-of-mask-singer-performances-without-pitch-correction.26888/>>31986
That cover was too beautiful..I'd be really disappointed if they actually heavily edited it.
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The fuck is this shit? I was reading an Iggy Azalea gossip thread and kpoppies started spamming this as a 'bye sweetie xxoxxoo' reaction image alongside the catboy from TXT. He looks like a raver hooker in a Vengaboys video
Do kpop men really like doing this? It reminds me of the stuff in the jpop critical stuff I've read about visual kei types being ex-gangsters and gambling addicts being manufactured and made to wear little girl dresses and makeup so they can fuck prostitutes
Lol im sure not all of them could grow facial hair like that even if they wanted to.
Is it really a cultural thing among East Asians?
Cause I do see more Japanese celebrities with facial hair but Chinese and Korean celebrities rarely ever have beards/moustaches- no matter what age.
Anyone who takes benzos longer than a month is technically addicted. >>32021
Just…don’t read the comments…
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Loool self post or not I’m happy for it
ugh jiae is using a filter now that makes her look like a literal 4 year old
not shocked but still disgustedhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Bxm-2NYnFs5/
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I know that yg is terrible in pretty much every aspect but I really do think that that's her own stylistic choice.
She's a big fan of Halsey so it's pretty clear she wants that indie voice thing and tries emulate that kinda voice.
it's just a filter that you use for fun on snapchat. Most people who use it won't actually
want to look like a baby
Well that's probably because japanese men have a better chance of growing facial hair due to genetics and whatnot (just search 'jomon' people)>>32025
Yeah…they should try to find a more moderate style of criticism, it would make what they say sound more convincing anyway (because they had some points)>>32047
I heard from a reputable source that he abuses drugs, though bc the person was Korean they had a limited knowledge of drugs so they couldn't tell me what type. They speculated weed but I'm pretty sure it's benzos.
I used to abuse benzos too and he shows a lot of signs of it. He has benzo mouth and that super glazed skin that's common in users.
In this interview you can really see it. I'm shocked they let him appear like this tbh.https://youtu.be/SpxmQMDahiU
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Does anyone else think V is extremely overrated? He's so pretentious it pisses me off. I can't believe fans actually told him his "art" was good lmfao
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>>32472>I heard from a reputable source
Your reputable source is an allkpop thread that was only posted 20 hours ago and has been deleted since (because it has no base). Embarrassing. This line from >>31993
is even more though>suga from BTS is addicted to benzos
Stating it as if it was a fact. No source nor linking to the original thread (because an allkpop thread is NOT A REPUTABLE SOURCE lmao), no "this is just a rumour tho and I have no proof whatsoever"
Benzos are typically prescribed as anti-anxiety meds. If he's taking them, then they're mostly likely prescribed.
He shows no sign of benzo (or any drug) abuse. Just because he has greasy skin doesn't mean he's on drugs.
If any of them have a substance abuse problem, it's Jimin with Alcohol. Vid related
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It's well known Korea will take a lesser Korean over a foreigner, it's common knowledge.
I feel like its most apparent earlier on in this vid. She seems to snap out of it when the confetti canons go off.https://twitter.com/jihyosarchives/status/1121364670609227776
Here's the full fancamhttps://youtu.be/WI1QjAAgpN0
This is kind of tinfoiling. Jihyo's just one of the few current idols who seems to actually enjoy performing and giving a show. Her other fancams are the same way.
I have no doubt idols are on tons of drugs though, prescription and otherwise
The amount of times he just sits there, squinting into the distance with his mouth hanging open has me rolling
I'm surprised that the stuff they get away with isn't either noticed or paid attention to by their companies, I expected that management would be far more cautious when it comes to interviews by companies from other countries because that shit always spreads like a wildfire.
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Kpop fans are delusional
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I've been living under a rock, did Seungri get away with it?
BTW, why is pic related even allowed in the industry? Even with all the professional makeup and styling they're hideous.
>>31504>Companies exploit that fanbase while paying dust to the actual foreign idol
It's not like the korean members get paid either lol
>The8 for Seventeen and Amber from f(x) got put on a show (can't remember the name) that got literal Korean kids to "teach" them how to speak Korean and treated them like they were stupid as if they couldn't speak Korean already.
I honestly don’t know. His arrest warrants were all denied so he’s not detained.
The investigation isn’t over yet, apparently, so there might still be a trial of sorts…? I don’t know what’s happening right now.
He’s set to enlist in the military on June 24th.
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Fucker was smiling when he went to the gym.
He was absolutely right about the Korean law.
I mean, I don't doubt that some idols play up to the cameras saying they don't have anything. But at the same time a lot of the smaller groups will literally be in debt for the rest of their lives. And just because a company houses them doesn't mean the conditions are any good. I believe a group called The Legend literally went without electricity cos their company didn't pay the bills. T-ara used to say how their company "forgot" to feed them frequently.
Then you get trash like TS who refuse to pay their artists, then sue them if they try to leave, sue them when they leave and the sue them when they win their lawsuits against the company.
I agree with that but my comment was directed more towards those that're nearing/are in their 30s who do that. They're way past the age to earn money in other ways instead on selling their "sobbing" stories to get cash the easy way.
As for the youngest ones, I'm sure they get paid more than the average person, it's just that expect to be as rich as those from the big3.
It just annoys me when they use this so their fans get more active into pouring money into them.
yg's artists are some of the highest earning in the business, that's how they can afford to live like this.
nugu groups from small companies bring in basically 0 cash. why would a company lose money to let them live in luxury?
Oh yes the ones nearing their 30s/30+ should def be given a slap. I mean idols have such a short career span realistically, so they should be putting multiple eggs in multiple baskets. I feel like with this trend of groups self composing that many of them will be able to get producing jobs after idolship, but a lot of the ones that are already 30 now probably didn't think about that back then and now haven't got fuck all to fall back on.
Than again it's proven you can rape people and beat women in this industry and you'll still have hoardes of fans so why bother with real work when fans will always fund your shitty lives.
I'm saying this as a black girl to black girl
Please lose weight, life is easier when you do. Please. I'm sick of seeing fat black kooreaboos.
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Kek I saw that too (looked for it again and couldn't find it). Yeah but those were three nct members (taeyong, yuta, and johnny) while they were filming a vlog in Chicago. So her bias was Johnny and like you said she waved to them and taeyong and Johnny ignored her and went back to filming, but she said yuta turned around completely to face her and waved and smiled, and said hi back, and that suprised her. Her words not mine
>Inb4 reeee gtfo nctfags you just want to find any way to talk about your faves
Ntayrt, but it's funny and it shows a bit of the nature about idols.
Chill out, it's not a big deal, lots of stupid stuff have been discussed lately so I don't see how this is any worse
I looked at the stellar article… I knew it was bad but I didn't realise it was that
>In response to a question about how much members earned from their work during Stellar, it was revealed that each member earned less than 10,000,000 Won (~$9,000 USD) over the 7 years they worked under their company.
I feel like the BTS hype only began in the first place because some executive noticed the hole in the western boyband market after 1D split and started shoving them into talk shows. They weren't even that popular compared to other idols.
Some younger group'll probably rush in to fill that gap once enlistment happens because the pattern's clear.
Of course they all look sad. Jesus Christ, it’s mandatory military service.
Jin is regurgitating a stock answer that Korean men have been fed since they were boys, and if there’s any anger with JK, it’s probably because his entire life since he was 13 is about to change and the people he’s grown most attached to are going to leave him behind, unwillingly.
Stop trying to attribute any perceived anger to arrogance and entitlement. You keep coming back here to reeee about him and it’s both obnoxious and incredibly obvious that you have some kind of damage.
lmao props to the interviewer for asking that, armys need a reality check. i don't know about the members' relationship but jungkook is way too dependent on fans and treated as the ~~golden boy~~, he'll probably be miserable after they start flopping. i think many people around them are going to come forward with bts and bighit's shady shit too.>>32703
nta but you're overestimating him, he's probably just upset that he'll be completely irrelevant in a few years.
I get this is supposed to be a critical video but>WIG SNATCHED, THEY EAT CD'S!!!
This is total delusion, i mean, how can you literally say that over such bad examples of BP "talent"?, i get op is trying to "balance" the video but that's not the way, don't sugarcoat mediocre performances like that. Jennie and Lisa doing the bare minimum? WOW, Rose straining (as always)? amazing, jisoo being less than mediocre and nasal af? PERFECT. Also kek at the fact they had to add jennie's old videos to prove she doesn't suck at singing, pathetic.
why does it matter if youre both black? theres tons of white fat girls acting just the same
anyway, anyone else feeling the mainstream kpop craze finally dying down?
Nta but even if that’s the case, his career is in showbiz so that’s a valid
concern to have.
That JK anon that keeps coming in here and saying “wow he looks so angry isn’t it scary he’s so mad this is happening wow he’s going to snap that reporter’s he’s so entitled he can’t believe anyone on earth is questioning him lol” is annoying as fuck.
You know this freak is in deep delusional koreaboo/obsessive fan territory when every little (non-)thing suddenly becomes a microaggression.
why would you think they will be exempt? this was discussed multiple times and the conclusion was always that not enlisitng would be social suicide in korea, even in an event of offered exemption. are you sure youre not just grasping at straws for them not to leave? >>32703
Because when I see articles on them most people(k-netz) commenting agree that they should be exempt. We already had some politician trying to advocate this. It's been a long time this subject has been everywhere to prepare us to find them not going shocking.
It's already being accepted by the gp and ofc, their fans. I'm just waiting for another fake win in Amrica of some sort and their exemption will be official.
I'm sure they'll try to oppose the decision to show how "ready" they to go when the duty calls.
Hah, believe me, I can't stand BTS so it'll be perfect for me to stop seeing them everywhere. Although BH will probably start shoving our throats their other terrible group in meanwhile.
sorry, i deleted my post, because i noticed that the article was from april last year, not last month
but yeah for anyone wondering, i was talking about this https://medium.com/@rheevesucks/bighit-announces-bts-jins-departure-to-the-military-is-advanced-by-one-year-8ea291a52cd8
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check the date of the article
Yaoi is popular among some lesbians and I guess BTS fits that 'nonthreatening flower boy uwu' thing aesthetically so they project the yaois onto it is my guess. There's loads of manhwa with the k-boy band aesthetic too. Any footage of BTS in action should dispel this idea - they're all vulgar grifters>>32749
Rat is probably thinking of Thai ladyboys he would suck off at Burning Sun or whatever, not the tumblr shit. I don't think anyone raised in Korea can truly understand the latter
No racebait but Koreans love to imitate American trends. I'm actually afraid their feminism will soon be flooded with that tumblr/twitter self- identification shit.
So it's not too far fetched that he lurks on twitter and soaks up all that bs.
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they do lurk stan twitter. they've ~~accidentally~~ liked fanart before
if this army isn't making shit up they followed and unfollowed her on twitter. she also says that jhope interacted with her in a concert and gave her his bag. idk how desperate they are that they try to find fans they see irl on twitter lol
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mino's weight loss looks really gross, i don't know what kind of look he's going for.
or maybe, she is just a delusional fan that wants clout on stan twitter and thus makes shit up.
like the girl who claimed she was dating jay park but he broke up with her because she cheated on him or something
Can he drop that anorexic heroin-addict style already…He just looks ill af…trying to be yg's new edgy fashionista.
He's shady too, considering he's part of Korea's misogynistic try-hard hip-hop, and is bff with Zico.
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he's coming after namjoo's brand
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that's a fucking triangle shaped piece of goddamn nostril just gone like that, the absolute state of nosejobs in korea…
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>tfw trying to watch a completely unrelated vid and this ad pops up
Not really related to that but I wonder if super junior would've gotten the same treatment as bts if they didn't have that many controversies and problematic
members? ( I'm talking about the exemption thing specifically)They really did a lot in terms of spreading kpop and even nowadays they're super popular in Arab countries and Latin America. But then maybe only US popularity is considered significant to them cause bp's fame in south east Asia has become the center of jokes.
I was under the impression that Kpop was already a pretty big thing in SEA even before Blackpink debuted.
I'd say it is because of the US popularity though. SK seems to only cares about the US and sometimes Canada.
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It got meme potential tbh
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i love how the hype around woozi has died down now the "he's trans" and the "he looks like suga" degenerates have moved on
imo le is extremely talented. she's better when featuring on tracks or when she's writing a song for somebody else, and i hope with exid disbanding that we can see her at her full potential.
i'm interested to see how hani will fair. she's not as popular as she was a few years ago. she isn't that good at singing and her "I'M NOT LIKE THE OTHER GIRLS" act isn't going to get her far.
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soyeon shows promise, but le has to be in the top 5 idols for most credits
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What the fuck is this supposed to be? Why did they edit her face like this? Fan edits taken to another mentally damaged level
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but her face is so….tragic. Even the way she talks looks strange. What even happened?
Tbh i really liked the first 35 seconds of the song and thought you were just hating. Then the song continued and it's fuckin awful
I feel bad for saying this but none of them are that pretty either…
you think someone could at least facetune themselves to look human even next to their botched idol but nah, she's melting
i didn't even know this was a thing anon
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on the contrary, she gained weight, ditched the bleached crackhead brows, and looks like she actually brushed and washed her hair. the bar is laughably low, but she did clear it. >>32617
fuck off, giving someone food and shelter doesn’t justify paying them dust when they’re raking in millions for your company. these idols in their 30s (who you refuse to name, funnily enough) who supposedly beg for money on tv are complete outliers, most of the time it’s a teenaged nugus who are upset because they get paid the equivalent of $8 USD per week to buy themselves food. can’t believe this thread has sunk low enough that we’re now justifing kpop slave contracts… >>32817
yeah, i have no idea why idols like LE and Hwasa who don’t have monolids go for that smokey CL cat eye look, it always turns out really bizarre and drag queen-ish. in LE’s case it doesn’t help that her eyes are completely botched. i know an anon upthread was sperging about Irene’s completely normal-looking eyelids, but LE genuinely looks like someone took a hatchet to her epicanthic fold (pic related)
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If I was gonna nominate the worst girl group in k-pop I'd say something like IZ*ONE is the worst. EXID's singles are all remakes of one song but at least there's a womanly vibe. Pedoshit is going to sink Korea's music like it sunk Japan's
But dont you need to have some kind of approval from parents to do plastic surgery on minors?
That's what kinda weirds me out when it comes to jisungs nose job.
I hate it when fans of cute concepts attack people for thinking all the songs sound the same.
To this day I cannot differentiate between the different gfriend or lovelyz songs when I happen to see them.
They all have this fairy theme going in in their videos with pastel clothes and baby voices. I really don't know grown people can like that?
The same goes for other concepts such as with boy groups and hip hop…all the same.
Kpop is inherently generic and repetitive but so are the concepts/genres within kpop.
according to 13:20, apparently there's no legal age limit? Obviously most doctors won't give a nose job to a 10 year old but I imagine it's maybe easier to get surgery as a teenager without parental permission.
Or he has weird stage parents that will do anything for their child to become a celebrity.
Hell YG groomed his wife from when she was underage
Pedoshit will never be a new concept, it's just something that is getting worse. We already got 10 year old idols in Japan performing twister with adult fans, how long til Korea gets like that too.
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Sakura's face always bothered me, she looks like a fucking bug. She looked normal a few years ago.
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Even Kyary did some weird gravure shit when she was 13 for a weird "little sister gravure" series
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yeah they're called junior idols. korea doesn't have as many as japan, but i can see the concept getting more popular with the normalization of 14 year olds being the 'face' of groups like wonyoung.
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who decided to edit her safety shorts out is the real question
Jfc humankind needs to go extinct. Why are parents letting this happen? >>32864
Are the straps and shit edits too pls tell me they are… she's a fucking child…
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This made me want to die
Why do you guys think BlacPink is so popular rn? What the heck is this pandering?
I think it's cause they're one of the closest kpop groups to Western Pop Music.
It's probably also easy to jump on the train of things already popular to help gain traction, which is what a lot of Western entertainment is doing with kpop right now.
They would not be this big if they were under some no name label though. YG really helped establish them in kpop. Top 3 entertainment can get away with putting out absolutely shit music and talent and people will eat it up as you can see.
I hate it when fans of cute concepts attack people for thinking all the songs sound the same.
I mean girl groups get the most shit thrown at them so fans will get territorial to protect what they like. I like some of the songs but they do sound the same, just like the Boy groups hip hop concepts you talked about. I see more people get pissed when you say boy groups sound the same though. It's hilarious because they really think they're BG is the most unique shit on the planet.
Japanese idols were sometimes obliged to make child porn before the law change of 1999.
Even now they try to pull this shit. U15 is a big market. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266981/Japanese-AKB48-singer-Tomomi-Kasai-centre-child-porn-investigation-photographed-boy-touching-breasts.htmlhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/did-japans-seedy-teen-idol-business-drive-this-girl-to-death
IMO it's only Korea's hardcore anti-porn laws introduced during the dictatorship stopping the same thing ever popping up around Korean idols because there are so many creeps into all kinds of nasty deviant shit on the k-net. Still the law is not enforced much
(Also pedoweebs and armys, don't respond calling me a racist because Denmark and the Netherlands had long periods of legal hardcore child pornography production too and the same problems occurring in Japan and Korea can be extrapolated to Russia)
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>>32878>There are “junior idols” who are generally between three and 15 years old who perform in music videos and do photo shoots for fans, and the materials they appear in can border on child pornography
I feel sick
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What happened to her? Did she fully quit the industry after being with that rich Japanese guy? I hope the spammer autist didnt find her
Being too invested in something can make you delusional af.
These people seem to have no proper social life so they project all their fantasies onto them.
I wish they'd just go out and have real crushes and experiences, it's sad how teens waste their life like that.
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>>32891> had a large population of autists obsessed with her and I didn’t get why
I really didn't get it either until I became a little more familiar with them.
To me, she stood out by default by being the only member to consistently have short blonde hair. She also pandered a lot to male fans during performances and always seemed to do more than the others (gif as an example).
It also helped that she had like 70% of the songs for herself.
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chaewon and yuri from izone look so alike, when I first saw them I thought they were the same person. They have similar voices too
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I can't be the only one who sees this
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Jo Yuri probably got surgery after Idol School
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dat botched chin implant tho
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another one bites the dust
I just can't believe he's a free man. There must be someone protecting him that's why he so relaxed all the time.
After serving he'll properly move to Japan or something.
But they were doing fairly well I think? That's a bit unexpected… I'm guessing N wants so do acting.
Speaking of acting, I wish idols stopped trying to be taken seriously as actors. I mean, many real k-actors already suck cause they get roles due to looks and connection, and then imagine how bad the majority of the idols must be…
Sometimes they don't even wanna be idols in the first place but they use it as an opportunity to get some exposure and then move on to acting. Or they know their idol time will soon be over and need other ways to make money.
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>>32924>Speaking of acting, I wish idols stopped trying to be taken seriously as actors. I mean, many real k-actors already suck cause they get roles due to looks and connection, and then imagine how bad the majority of the idols must be…>Sometimes they don't even wanna be idols in the first place but they use it as an opportunity to get some exposure and then move on to acting. Or they know their idol time will soon be over and need other ways to make money.
It's the same in every country.
surprised that Pledis would finally admit PRISTIN is dead but continues to deny that After School is dead
The remaining female trainees and members who chose to stay with Pledis should scram while they still can
I doubt it. Loads of this prostitution culture comes from the military because South Korea opened up legal brothels for US servicemen and it spiralled down into regular conscription and became a feature of national service
On the other hand Seungri was an older man abusing young women. That's a huge traditional taboo in Korea, men like this are called thieves and not seen in a good light at all. I've never heard of older male and young female being an official taboo in other countries. The newer trashier generations and k-cels discard this taboo though
Good riddance. After School had such a fierce vibe and then they come up with this badly-casted TWICE clone with horrific songs. I guess since IZ*ONE have come along and oversaturated the pedo market it's pretty much over for these massive amounts of members groups
Pledis fucked up Hello Venus too
holy shit.I was a big VIXXfag for a while(actually the only kpop group I got invested in)and while I don't keep up with them anymore,they had no big scandals and they seemed to get along well.
Ravi will keep doing things in VIXX despite creating his own label so only N's involvement in the group is uncertain(just looked all this up now I was surprised kek)
lol I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if a bunch of incels there went up to him asking him how to mess with girls or if he can introduce them to some.
A while ago I saw this video talking about how common it is for men to get prostitutes there. It's almost like a men-bonding thing so I don't expect much from them.
The Japanese super-low-aged female group "sister BABYS (Sororベイビ→ズ)" has an average age of about 12 years old, but since its debut, it has been the main player of "Clean and Sexy", and members have burst into red because of their inferior age.
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Yeah. I guess the group's concept was daddy's princess or whatever. Kyulkyung and Rena stood out to me looks wise, but they look quite womanly and genteel and do not really fit into a 'cute' group.
None of them were really child-like enough (facially or otherwise) to fit into that pedobait thing that TWICE embodies or even the lite form of it that APINK or GFRIEND embodies. Then Pledis constant mismanagement and Kyla's weight and brother scandals threw it all into the garbage
They would've been better off with an elegant concept (like KARA) or womanly concept (like SPICA) with Pinky and Rena plus a strong vocalist and unique rapper which was desperately needed to balance everything>>32937
This song is fucking boring. They tried to sound like Shinee and still failed at it. At this point NCT is just fucking trash with no way of redeeming themselves.
SM trying to make them happen in America is also laughable, with a sound like this they'll never make it outside of their brainwashed stans who think all of their faces are natural.
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Why do companies insist on making idols go blonde? Nobody has ever looked good with it.
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obsession with white people. colored contacts are even more disgusting
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At least the hairstylist here made some
effort to make it at least match a bit. But most of the times the blonde looks horrible because it doesn't fit their undertones; it's either super yellow or almost white.
I think everyone can look good with the right shade.
For example here hwasa's hair doesn't look too bad cause her roots are darker.
Woozi's been listed as a composer since debut though. I think they're just exploring different styles right now and that's why their music has gone downhill.
Also they both barely self-produce at all
Yeah you might be right there. The whole "self producing" group thing kind of falls short though when it's just one guy (Woozi) doing most of the work (along with another actual producer), and the rappers writing their lines.
I've always felt bad for Woozi because he gets shit on all the time for being short (and fans force that "cute" persona on him when he's just a normal guy) even though he does most of the work in making Seventeen's music.
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I don't think it was solely her fault. Xiyeon had some kind of injury. The other members were apologizing to fans over not having vlives, there was probably more going on behind the scenes (perhaps both before and after Kyla left).
Kyla implies in her Instagram post about the disbandment after a commentator blames her that she wants to spill the tea on the company. Imagine being these girls and training for 5+ years, longer than the average trainee period, particularly for Kyla and Xiyeon, who were with the company 9 and 11 years respectively- to only debut for 2 years. With how many members there are I imagine at least one of them who's fed up with Pledis is going to spill behind the scenes tea.
Yeah seriously as if she was the Irene of their group or something. Nobody gave her attention, and when they did it was always negative.
The group was destined to flop from the moment they debuted.
The popular Chinese member already secured her career by establishing herself in China, and the other one from ioi will find something else to do.
Nobody really cares about the other members.
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Just your average nearly 24-year-old man!http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/05/bts-vs-chinese-fandom-sweeps-up-24.html?m=1
Seriously, it's no surprise the ex-exo members all went to china, because once you've made it where… I really wonder why they like kpop so much? They also have idol groups, millions of pretty and talented singers to chose from, so why throw your cash to korea?
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this was an email kyla’s brother leaked that she sent him in 2017 and mentions that there were problems even back then, for some reason i remember there being more but this was all i could find rn
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What did he do to his face? I can't put my finger around it, but he definitely changed for the worse, his eyes look a lot smaller now.
And for some reason you can always see his badly shaven moustache, even through the massive amount of foundation he probably wears. Don't idols get waxed or lasered?
You can see it cause he's dark skinned+very dark hair. He probably doesn't want to laser it off cause he's one of the few koreans who can grow a good beard and wants to keep it for the future or something.
I think he just gets lots of fillers. It makes him look plastic and disgusting just like his friend taemin
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Nose job + camera angle (selfies always make bug eyes) + male aging. The 'then' is already plastic
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I've never seen a mtf kboo before.
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baekhyun doesn't have a prominent adam's apple so maybe they are just joking around about that, i don't know. i haven't seen a mtf kboo either but i've seen many mtf weebs. trans kboos are usually the fujo fakeboiz.
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Wtf is going on with pledis? After they disbanded Pristin I heard they sent all of their foreign female trainees back home and got rid of their Korean female trainee roster. Is pledis trying to be an all boys company like Johnny's now? Wtf is going on?
Alright you have some points. I get the feeling that knetz make fun of his height. However you're right, he's more popular than you would expect.
What did he plagiarize though
where did you hear about that? apparently they've been asking for males only on their global audition so they're probably debuting a new boy group soon. those female trainees are better off. >>33049
it seems kind of premature though. if nuest hadn't gotten popular on p101 their only popular group would be seventeen. who knows if they'll be able to make another.
i find it hilarious that bighit doesn't take any female trainees or single women as staff to protect bts' uwu image while having worked with literal druggie, abusive
solji's one of the best idol singers, they've got consistently bangy singles along with nice album songs, and they can be funny as hell on variety. this comeback wasn't one of their best though
since people have been talking about vocals, remember the time they accidentally had no vocals on backing track and had to adapt on the flyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ComCRiKtgZo
SM is trying so hard to make Taeyong-CT happen that they forgot how popular Red velvet was with the public, with their "red" concepts. Nobody in Korea gives a damn about NCT and they don't have a single hit there.they basically live off of international fans.
Maybe they've given up on rv because Irene's getting too old for the group and the group is dead without her, and joy probably wants to do acting. That still doesn't explain why they waste their money on that flop group.
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Old pic but jesus christ, I think this is the worst case of plastic surgery that I've ever seen.
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Before the tragedy
Unpopular opinion: he didn't look that
much better before, he was just unattractive in a different, less disturbing way. Pre plastic monster J-hope was better looking than him.
I will never understand why SM, one of the most successful kpop companies in existence, even bothers letting guys like him and Johnny debut. NCT makes me sad.
not sure what they were trying to go for with this yuta person. bolting a huge ass weirdly vertical chin implant on a compact face with an already kinda narrow jaw just makes it look 328959x worse. he looks like a banana. SM's butchers are literally retarded and make people look like utter freaks. even YG and JYP have better surgeons
still nowhere near as horrific as namjoo or even sinb though. chin implants can be taken out
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nta but Ehh…. I think he looked pretty good, that's just an unflattering gif>>33098
My guess is xenophobia
But they're implying svt has only recently began to "self-produce". I have no clue where they got that idea from. to be honest I like svt for their live performances and Getting Closer was a banger, but they desperately need to delete Woozi from their group or at least quit the self producing meme.
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>"I watch what I eat and sometimes I go a bit extreme," she said. She calls her method "the water diet. When I have something important coming up, I start drinking three liters of water daily for five days straight, which makes me go to the bathroom a lot. And on the seventh day, you are basically a skeleton," she emphasized, adding that "this way, you can go from thin to skeleton-skinny."
jesus fucking christ. also love how k-pop english sites 'neutrally' talk about these diets like 'iu's myproana plan' and basically advertise them, then go on crusades 'against problematic body shaming' when shindong is called fat or they need to big up 'woke queen' rat monster's latest love urself trash
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Why did Seungyeon and the other girl stay with pledis? They are the least popular members
They are dumb to think pledis would take them out of the dungeon. Pledis needs their cashcow Kyulkyung to pay off the remainder Pristin debt, after that I think they will toss her out. I hope she marries a seventeen member to spite pledis.
Are they trying to take the Big Shit way?>>33041
Out of all the known male idols of pledis who do you think is dating? My bet is Vernon.
I doubt she gives a shit. She's a billionaire's girlfriend, I suspect she stayed on to gain some prestige from k-dramas>3. [+781, -47] Heck, I'd rather get married to a chaebol than waste my time as an idol
even pann choa knows how worthless the idol life is
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Searched for a recent pic and I think his face is getting much better..? Idk, what do you think?
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This appeared on my tl and scared the shit out of me, wth (it's yesung from suju btw)
…I thought that was a woman
Also has anyone noticed that idols love to use a chinese filter app called b612?
She is a very troubled person so its not really surprising this would end up happening. She hangs out with shitty edgy losers and gets drunk and only dates abusive
druggie men. And she should know that females get the short end of the stick and are treated much more harshly in Korea than their male counterparts for the same things. Surprised she seems to be doing worse off than Sulli, Hyeri and Hyoyeon. It was a tossup as to which one would end up really seriously hurting themselves first.
Fasting has been around since prehistoric times. If you want something that's actually disordered to scream "Jesus Christ" at I recommend the standard American diet.>>33049
What do you mean, some pristin members are svt/nuest sasaengs?
NTA but the act of fasting isnt the problem, i think the issue is more or less her reasoning. >You can go from thin to skeleton like
Shes not doing it for health purposes. Shes doing it to be an ana chan. And thats not ok.
Is this the most recent breakdown jimincel had on stage? Why is he always crying? Do you think it's genuine from all the intense training/rehearsing or he's just being an attention whore again?>>33124
The whole face is just so….pointy. Like an anime pixie character. tragic
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That’s genuinely so sad. I remember when her boyfriend scandal came out, people were getting mad at her for scratching up her boyfriend’s face when her own medical report showed that she had probably been raped by him.
she was clearly exhibiting the behavior of a domestic abuse victim
throughout the entirety of the abuse case, even initially apologizing despite doing nothing wrong, who knows how long this went on for? people who don't understand the behavior abuse survivors are quick to judge, but I'm glad she came to her senses eventually, it's pitiful that in the fallout there was so much rancid hatred directed towards her for finally being fed up with her abuser and fighting back against him. I hope she recovers and is able to find the resources she needs to take steps towards overcoming her mental pain
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Nta but you got some pretty fucking high standards, especially considering what most idols look like before all their plastic surgery and skin bleaching.
Pic related is on of the "visual" members of the group before his ps
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He's another member predebut and I'm just posting his pic because honestly it suprises me how different some of these guys looke
Performing onstage is emotional esp. if you get all the ~*love*~ bts does. I was in a production for a bit and I cried after almost every show.
Anyway, we have no reason to believe it’s disingenuous or alcohol fueled or any of that.
I wish they'd stfu about their "diets" and only talk about it if they wanna discuss the dangers of it and the pressures to do these diets, not proudly brag about it.
They have young female fans, what kinda message are they sending out?
Oh. Jimin’s therapist is here again.
That’s no way to speak about a client.
but i'm not against fasting, i've done it myself. the media advertising a water fast so blithely in order 'to look like a skeleton' without due discussion of the problems like cardiac wasting and myofibril damage from not sparing protein or that amount of water screwing your kidneys is not healthy. especially because IU is size 000 with virtually no muscle. she advertised a 'myproanaplan' elsewhere>>33127>>33138>>33129
she came from a horrible background of neglect and CSA and was basically recruited via study club prostitution afaik so no surprise. i feel sorry for her but she needs to stop doing fucking lolita crap with sulli and leave the industry and country. she will never get better in korea
If they have an ounce of conscience they would know that the extent of their "talent" compared to the huge popularity they got don't make sense at all…would low key make me feel self-conscious too.
They can improve all they want but this is just their limit. They're simply not a well-put group because of so many reasons, the biggest being that they don't have proper singers, in fact, 3 of the so-called "vocals" sound absolutely horrible.
They didn't give this group much thought when they created it, and it shows. I'm sure their creepy CEO would've prevented some members' debuts if he knew they'd blew up like that.
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Jaehyun doesnt look drastically different from that pic. Is this another bitter Yuta sperg or >>33118
samefagging again>Reeee stop calling my oppa ugly call Jaehyun ugly instead>Twitter filenames
70% sure og Yuta sperg used those too.
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Hyolyn is embroiled in a massive bullying scandal where she supposedly robbed and attacked someone at school for yearshttps://news.nate.com/view/20190526n04806?mid=n1008http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/05/hyorin-reveals-she-hopes-to-visit.html
Honestly I liked SISTAR but I'm not shocked. They all seemed kinda mean (especially Bora) and like those thuggish girls who chew gum and put razors in it to spit it out at strangers. 'Shady Girl' was an appropriate title
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In kpop, popularity and talent are not related at all, not even good looks ensure success. Prior company success+ ability to create buzz+ random luck= profitable kpop groups. >>33176
tfw when our feminist kween gets outed as a ruthless school bully kek. Is there any idol who seems genuinely kind? I can only think of Amber and that's most likely because she was brought up in a country where even celebrities act somewhat genuine and she must have faced so much shit in Korea for being a tomboy and being a foreigner. It was kinda swept under the rug but she even admitted she was crept upon, pic related
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Apparently they've been surrounded by former school bully rumors for a while (except for Bora?) According to Knetz.
Sister's music and concept have the same energy as pic related, kek.>>33178
I think Rosé blackpink seems genuinely kind. and yeah, she was raised in a Western country too.
No idea. SM seems particularly rife with abuse so that doesn't shock me>>33180
Before their transformation into Bikini Bridge group, SISTAR were always marketed as a Bad Girl group, so I don't believe the agency when it acts as if it didn't know of Hyolyn's past
I genuinely don't know: did rosé promote ana somewhat directly? Or is it former anachans overanalyzing everything she does/ or fatties getting triggered
she's thin? Because I don't know a lot about BP but have heard many people say she promotes EDs.
Yeah the common narrative is that female idols are victims
of the expectations thrust upon them by the GP. And it is definitely true with some of them who are obviously too weak to handle the pressure: Park Bom, Luna etc. But ones like IU, Rosé, Seolhyun, Yoona etc are definitely proudly promoting eating disorders. I wonder whether they realize it though, most kpop idols are intellectually stunted due to poor education, malnutrition etc.
i think its mainly because its only us noticing her and Lisa are fucked up and BP are the second biggest group in kpop. blinks are one of the most delusional fanbases. even public anachans like JinE and AOA Jimin take fucking years to be recognized by normies as disordered. i posted the IU thing but i know she can dodge a lot of scrutiny because she uses the pseudo-feminist pseudo-intellectual crap>>33191
i'm assuming its because it was SISTAR's marketing for them to badd ghurllz (therefore giving them armor). also, T-ARA's 'scandal' was manufactured by i-fans at a point when domestic sales were collapsing and their agency handled the situation badly and threw them to the dogs. now SISTAR are all approaching 30 and the public taste for these things changed.
while i was a fan i never understood how people could conceptualize virtually anything about SISTAR as 'feminist'. nearly all their songs are about being a lap dog for men. k-sjws are a special type of retarded
The lip lift scar under the nose… whew>>33127
This is so sad. Given how bad Korean mental health care is, I'm not feeling too hopeful that she might not try again and succeed.
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Holy fuck I had to reverse image search that to figure out who it was. I can't believe Doyoung looked like a normal Korean guy once
I was thinking this too. Imagine being literally the biggest kpop group in the world and knowing you don't have any talent to warrant your position.
Jimin may be narcissistic as fuck but there's no way he doesn't recognize that he can't sing for shit no matter how hard he tries.
I'm more surprised that Jin doesn't cry every time they perform.
Why would they cry because of that?
If they're aware of how lucky they are, they should rather be all smiles, ass-kissing their fans 24/7 out of gratefullness - instead of acting like the cunts they are
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Anyone else feel utterly nauseated by 'anti-toxic
masculinity' being used as a brand by k-boos and k-fems?
Like the seungri thing above >>33023
should really illustrate that men wearing eyeliner or wearing flower crowns does not make a single fucking difference to their conduct. Some people I used to semi-respect are obsessed with this scam that k-idols are 'good and woke' because they wear winged eyeliner (or because they're Korean). Did they forget the entire fucking 1980s?
I don't know but their mental states have to be totally fucked at this point. Anyone that famous is going to be a little gone in general, but with all the plastic surgery and shit idols get put through it has to be worse.
Jimin's an alcoholic, Suga's apparently on drugs, and Jungkook was cutting himself at one point. Plus they were never supposed to make it to where they are now.
Not that that warrants any of the pity they get from armeries, their lives are still better than an average person no matter how you look at it.
Also they already do all that. Bts are known for ass-kissing their fans 24/7. And to be honest I've been assuming Jimin fakes the tears every time, but who knows
"Bts are known for ass-kissing their fans 24/7."
Basically that´s why Jimin is crying every concert. Because the fans can feel special and moved by all the emotion and what they mean to him.
Let´s be real here, BTS are playing the game well and better than any other boyband before and propably after them.
Is this necessarily bad? Nah, boyband are boybands after all.
More sad is, that at one point a long time ago, they had with their music some kind of potential. Now they are just milking every fan that is stupid enough and appearantly, there are a hella lot of stupid fans.
>>33186>I think Rosé is just ugly
Agreed, she has the most punchable face in Kpop>>33189
I will never understand why people pay to watch these untalented girls flail around onstage with their horrible choreography that makes them look like those inflatable things outside car dealerships
lol everyone commenting about woke kween nayeon.
why'd they even perform this song?
and that dance break was pathetic.
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Jfc I had a hard time figuring out who this guy was while watching pdx101 and then I realized it's fucking Mahiro.
nta but what a stupid take. >go sperg about your ugly kpop boys elsewhere
i can't think of a better place than here lmao. you don't get to police what people can/or can't post about. if it's critical, i don't see the issue>>33222
mahiwho? is he in a group or something? he looks dead inside kek
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he just looks like that. it's not surgery or anything. he's just jomon
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This was the closest thing I found to an old pic>>33234
Guess you're right lol
especially considering how many rock musicians wear makeup and are still extreme douchebags
hell the majority of men in ~emo~ and alternative bands are pure trash
theres only 1 alternative group that i would even trust myself around as i have hung out with them and never had an issue nor have ever heard anything bad from literally ANYONE about any of them but theyre not mega famous
sage for blog shit
Rose never 'promoted' being an anachan. You're dumb if you think every eating disordered idol would encourage others to develop an eating disorder. Just because she appears in public with her toothpick legs showing doesn't mean that she's blatantly encouraging her fans to starve themselves. And I hate BlackPink but let's not pick on someone who is clearly struggling with a severe mental illness. If anything, her weight is a cry for help, but as we saw with Bom's plastic surgery addiction, YG isn't going to do shit and someone needs to actually intervene.
Afaik Rose hasn't even released an official "diet" that she follows like some other girl groups have.
This video I attached is what an idol 'promoting' an eating disorder looks like. If you want to see an idol that actually endorses horrible diets and suffers from extreme self-esteem problems then look no further than Luna's YT channel.>>33184
Again with making people with eating disorders out to be aggressors… you realize that these labels and Korean culture look down upon women who are even in the average BMI category. How are these women not supposed to feel pressure to diet? Just because some fans are too dumb and take their starvation diets as the gospel doesn't mean that they're directly endorsing these diets unless they explicitly say that they recommend them. Most celebrity diets usually have the celebrity saying "I get to binge once the promotion is over," and no, it isn't healthy but at least these celebrities are admitting that these diets are not sustainable and many of them are clearly in need of treatment (Wendy for instance).
Yep I stand corrected then. Lady Gaga is known for having laughable, horrendous choreography so they should have changed it.
Twice should really hire Sparky Polastri at this point.
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sometimes lisa looks like a trans to me. so much for 'koreans have big heads'
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lisa has a very feminine face what are you talking about? is it because she has wide shoulders?
>>33214>Comments taking about how "badass" and "queen" botched nose Naeyeon is and how she's Beyonce level
If they ever performed this in America and these kpop retards where showing it off online the beehive and even average normies would eat them alive on twitter.
They just released a MV six days ago so Woollim likely is doing 'media play' themselves.
Kind of a casual listener but they need any amount of publicity that they can get at this point. Lovelyz has been around for around the same amount of time as RV and yet are barely known despite coming from the same label as Infinite (who was popular at that time).
>>33239>Everyone praises their choreography ever since they apparently got BlackPink's choreographer
BP gets praise for their choreo?>>33205>feel utterly nauseated
But woke kpop fags are hilarious
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holy shit she just comes out and says she starves herself for a few days to look super smol. lol
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I remember Heejin of Loona saying trying to get to her "ideal" debut weight caused her to have problems, with many performances over weeks, she lost a lot of stamina and had dizzy spells.
IU barely does anything strenuous, she can let the guys do that.
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I just heard that Lee Jin Ah got married. I thought she already was married. I went back to check, and sure enough the entire KPOP STAR she was wearing a wedding band.
This is all really sad.
I hope these women like IU and Hyuna and Jimin get help and recover, for their own sakes, otherwise we’re definitely going to see one of them die of this one day soon.
Might have been a promise ring of sorts? Or just fashion choice.
Doesn’t matter because the weirdest part is she thanked her agency’s CEO for giving her “permission” to marry. Who knows if that’s a joke or not lol. >>33274
You can just come out and call her a slut, anon.
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lisa's shoulders are so… wide
they both look emaciated, actually gross
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certainly a very interesting new thumbnail. wonder who at YG decided to use this?>>33298
Rose is so disgusting what the hell? This woman needs help.
Also to add, isn't it hilarious how bp fans call her a foodie? I remember seeing a picture on twitter or something of her with food and all the delusional fans were commenting shit like:"Of course our foodie kween is stuffing herself! uwu"
And my question is: are they actually retarded or what am I missing
lol saw that earlier
krystal never looks like she wants to be literally anywhere she is
she and jessica seem like such fucking drags
Its been discussed many times that for some weird reason kpop fans believe that people with the most obvious eating disorders constantly gorge themselves. I can remember back when SNSD was relevant they did this with Sooyoung and it was so bizarre to me.
Just google shikshin. That was her nickname because they cultivated this weird obsessive idea that even though Sooyoung was practically skelly, that she ate ALL the time nonstop. Its a weird cope mechanism or something. I think its done on purpose. Meanwhile idols that arent as skinny get chastized for eating anything other than a sweet potato and tomatoes. Its a weird dynamic.
Did you photoshop that? Cause I went to check and the thumbnail is still the old one
While I was on BP youtube channel, I noticed DKWTD focused camera videos and was surprised to see that Jennie has the least views after Jisoo. I wonder how it feels to have had a solo debut sponsored by rich mommy and still be one of the least liked members.
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the contrast between her shoulders and waist/hips kek. all underweight idols look troonish af. It seems koreans hate on Hwasa because her body is so undoubtly feminine regardless of what they think of it
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He seems extremely darksided. The fact he saw his wife on a TV show when she was 12 and then decided to relentlessly pursue her is something else
Can't even shit on k-netz for this. They're agitating to send him and Seungri to jail. It's the retarded i-fans that continue this 'Papa YG' bullshit and will give him an escape ticket. I suspect this is the reason why his strategy has become more internationalist. Also Armys are not fucking helping by making this into a retarded stan war with Blinks
I wonder if there's any shit on him from the SeoTaiji days
as far as i know, victoria is done with f(x) and kpop in general
she was ready to go when sulli was she just did it in a more professional way
Is that what happens to women when they're on 4chan for too long? Cause I feel like it is.
These anons here specifically(in a thread where we're supposed to discuss the toxic
kpop industry) who call especially female idols all types of names, need to get their internalised misogyny under control. They're disgusting tbh.
The fact that she has shown that she wants to move back to china and have a career there instead.
Not only because its literally her own home country, but also because theres more of a profit in acting and modeling and singing in china than there is in korea now? Why tf would she want to stay in a practically dead group, in a shitty company that mistreats the idols and clearly doesnt care about anything even their biggest groups? Not to mention the issues with China-SK relations. And shes already rich as fuck. Most idols that "take a break" from kpop groups only stay under contract with technicalities to save face with psycho fans who think if an idol leaves, especially to go to another country, they're a "traitor" before cutting ties completely once the contract is officially up. Plus this is fx we are talking about. Nobody in fx cares about the group as a whole anymore except Luna and thats just because shes desperate and overcompensating for the fact that no one likes her outside of that core fx fanbase. Even Amber has managed to get a life outside of the group and country. Krystal and Amber care about Luna Im sure. Thats why they showed up at her performance. But fans are being ridiculous and grasping for anything at all to convince themselves that fx is going to be a thing again. Especially with Victoria and/or Sulli, who have basically nothing to do with that stuff anymore and clearly prefer acting.
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Yesterday I read comments about Laboum's Yulhee and jesus, nothing but people who defend her. For whose who don't know, she got pregnant and then left her group.
All the comments are from backwards SEA writing bullshit like "young girl being in love and starting family is wonderful!" "you hate babies?! she's sooo mature for not aborting" etc, while koreans and normal fans just pointed out that she broke a contract and was just a teen - which is definitely less than ideal, especially considering that according to herself the father isn't really helping her with the baby.
I know this is beating an old horse, but there's probably nothing that I hate more about kpop than bts whining about how hard they supposedly work.
This korean(!) figure skater "only" skates for 5 hours a day, yet qualified for the olympics. Meanwhile ratmon and co. are trying to make everybody believe that they dance 15 hours every single day, on top of their normal schedule…and sadly ratmy eat up everything they say.
correct me if i'm wrong but i always assumed most of the controversy with yulhee wasn't just bc she got pregnant, but bc she lied about it? she didn't tell her members or the company, continued performing while pregnant, then suddenly quit the group and disappeared. she didn't announce she was pregnant until like the month the baby was due, and the father was an idol in ftisland. then she returned to the public eye and wanted a lot of sympathy, which seems shitty since as anon pointed out >>33354
her behavior was so idiotic. having the baby wasn't a terrible thing to do (but was definitely irresponsible and sad considering the couple seems kinda miserable) but she doesn't seem very sorry for how her mistakes hurt people and she should be called out. nothing wrong with having a baby, but at least be mature about it.
People keep criticizing her ruining her group but laboum was wasn't popular in the first place. Nonetheless it must've been a shock for her group and it's only fair to apologize to them in private.
People are pissed that she goes on tv but now that she's a housewife and her husband an idol they probably need more money so I'm not surprised that they're trying to stay relevant in the media.
If anything, I feel terribly sorry for her cause the guy seems like a lazy, immature douche who really just wanted to have some fun with her before moving onto the next young idol.
I never said she isn't allowed to have the baby, I just want you and your likeminded SEA friends to stop kissing her ass for nothing.
All koreans netizens ever suggested was that she should at least apologize to her group members for causing them trouble and for lying to them.
In the end she's the one who has to bear through this, there already were articles in which she said that he doesn't help her at all - and this already during the first year of their marriage… Doesn't sound as rosy as they're trying to make it out to be, no?
>>33369>The idols who leave their groups yet still insist they are part of it are the real assholes
The girls from SNSD who do this are the WORST. Especially Tiffany. It just encourages overzealous fans who obsess over >muh ot9
Either you're solo, or you're still in SNSD. Theres no inbetween please stop and actually make something of yourself without having to hashtag SNSD's name in every single one of your social media posts and interviews if you've "left" the group.
sjws dont care if children get murdered on camera, all they care about is how jimincel is smashing white patriarchal expectations of performative masculinity by wearing cat ears or how jennie is twerking to yonce and is a new crazyrichasians kardashian contender yasss slayy
all the woke outlets and journos pushing kpop relentlessly and cosigning cringy shit on twitter have some coverage of the seungri situation but only through a limited lens where they're basically barely going into the YG part. at the same time they're pushing BLACKPINK and jennie as a hot property as if YG as an abusive
disgusting pos and organisation can be separated from that in any way whatsoever (in b4 blinks get angry: the two can't be separated even though it's not BP's fault because of the way the k-industry works). its just typical of these people to shit where they eat. they aren't even covering tons of stuff that korean netizens have dug up about burning sun>>33343
SEA is bad for children and i'm not saying kids dont have it a LOT better in the west but there's nasty shit in the west too that people aren't aware of. look up warwick spinks if you can - it's like burning sun in amsterdam
i think jessica was initially chosen for TTS but taeyeon got mad at her and sm replaced her with seohyun
there was a blind item floating around that said as much and honestly, a lot of the blind items thought to be about snsd seem not so farfetched after everything went down the way it did
let me see if i can find it
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The comments are absolutely dumb and disgusting… >Performing while she's pregnant with tight clothes. Name a braver woman. She's a queen>Jjang basically danced with his mom:') this is making me emotional!
Don't the little girls (or is it grown women with baby fever?) who praise her for keeping it realize that she very well risked losing it by doing this?
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Looks like they finally decided to whore out Dahyun. She looks so uncomfortable.
I'm imagining someone giving her instructions.>yeah do that and then bite your liphttps://gfycat.com/thinsanecusimanse
this is it
Girl Group 01
Member L(Jessica) from a popular girl group has not been on friendly terms with her management, staff and fellow members (everything is strictly professional). Member L(Jessica) was told to go under the knife when she received a drama offer late last year. She was not keen on receiving the role and more so did not want to go through any plastic surgery procedure. She was also told that she was going to work on a musical project once she finishes filming all her parts. However, when she became adamant about the role and the surgical procedure her agency threatened her pull her off the musical project. So she went along with the agency’s decision. She was miserable with the initial surgical result and to make matters worse Member K(Taeyeon) who was also a part of the musical project requested the agency to replace L(Jessica) from the project with M(Seohyun), because L(Jessica) was unprofessional and argumentative during rehearsals. The agency also decided that it would be more profitable if they released the project earlier then planned. To top that Member K(Taeyeon) felt that M(Seohyun) was more deserving and the agency agreed. L(Jessica) was told about this change while she was shooting for her show, and as a result she felt she was back-stabbed by everyone involved excluding member M(Seohyun). Collaborative project was an instant surprise hit and L(Jessica) was not happy.
this was before everything happened
also, i remember netizens investigating, and not long after, the people on soshified doing damage control, and then one of them posting on their official account something along the lines of "wow you're such a fucking bitch" and that day two major jessica fansites shut down so everyone started to get scared that it was about jessica due to some shit posted on weibo
then a few weeks later jessica got knocked out by the body guard in the airport, and then like…the next week she made the post about being kicked from the group
idk but it was a wild time in the fandom and i had already checked out by then and was just watching them go down in a slow flame lol
Why would jyp fix what wasnt broken? Twice was successful because of their cute concept. They could've at least saved the switch to sexy for however many years in the future the cute concept couldn't work anymore. I liked Fancy
but wasn't that a dumb business decision?
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i believe that specific blind item mostly because she had obviously had plastic surgery done before her drama and it was very noticeable and strange looking
so it definitely fits the timeline
All the girls have graduated, they can go lewd now. Plus they are probably worried the cute Twice image is getting a bit stale.
Sixteen did more raunchy stuff than Twice ever did.
Natty - 13
Somi - 14
Chaeryeong - 14
Chaeyeon - 15
Eunsuh - 15
You can see Dahyun never liked the sexy thing, even back then, shes always been the wacky comic variety show girl
she was also raised in a christian evangelist family
thats how she got famous in the first place, by doing videos of funny dances and stuff in church so i imagine this kind of thing is pretty opposite of what her family would approve of
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reminds me of how the poor girls in stellar used to look while performing practically soft core clothed porn on stage, especially minhee
i will never not believe they werent one of the groups with "sponsors", especially after that one member came out and said she was basically forced to do simulated sexual shit in music videos that made her uncomfortable
god kpop is a cesspool
Korea and East Asia as a whole has widespread honor/shame culture that encourages young girls to abort teen pregnancies or hide them rather than publicly talk talk about them. That's why they're so unheard of, they do happen, statistically less than the US, but they're encouraged to abort or hide them.
The rate in those countries is supposedly lower but who knows if the stats are ever true? Hearing the nasty shit about underage girls and burning sun and other numerous kpop scandals and the sexual coercion and abuse that underage trainees face makes me think that there's way more unreported young pregnancies in the country than realized- at least in the ent industry
Minhee: We had to put everything on the line. We weren't in a position to think about what will come after. The success of 'Marionette' was going to determine the existence or disbandment of the team.
Junyool: I prepared with the thought that this was going to be our retirement album. I watched other sunbae teams who took on the sexy concept and sharpened my knife.
Gayoung: Honestly, we didn't think ourselves to be sexy. Even our agency wondered if this would suit us. But as we practiced, we realized we could be [sexy].
Gayoung: It turned out really well for us. We got tons of love calls for various event performances and our negative [bank] balance became positive. We also got a car and a dorm. We also got a practice room that we could use all we wanted.
Minhee: Instead of sexiness, we wanted to pour our sincerity into the release ["Mask"].
Gayoung: We included in the lyrics why we had no choice but to do the sexy concept for 'Marionette'. We wanted to explain that we did it to receive love from the public.
Hyoeun: But, nobody seemed interested in our sincerity. It was to the point they didn't even know we made a comeback. Those who listened to the track said it was good, but people wouldn't even give it a listen.
Minhee: Because the results weren't good, our promotion cycle was short.
the evangelists and the republicans don't, it depends entirely on what state you're in in the us and what the relative makeup of that state's government is
and even though sk only recently legalized abortion they have normie doctors perform abortions there for a long time, i read quite a few articles about abortion in east asia and a lot of regular practition doctors perform them under the table even if it's not legal
Was the 'plastic surgery' her jaw shave? I found this article on her changed appearance but wanted to confirm.https://www.soompi.com/article/370623wpp/snsds-jessica-accused-of-chin-surgery
Not related but: is it just me or was the 2nd gen more juicy than the gossip we get about 3rd gen idols? I guess Blackpink is kind of milky but they have barely any songs and are actually really boring.
I'm thinking that the reporters are better paid off now which is why we get barely any new scandals. Thoughts?
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for anyone with keen eyes and an understanding of ps, did arin get her eyes done or is it just really heavy makeup?
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txt is a mistake
I mean the female trainees/groups/solos of Pledis get paid dust so it's probably better off that they don't have any. >>33109
iirc, IU used to say she had a special diet of:
Breakfast: 1 apple
Lunch: 1 sweet potato
Dinner: 1 protein shake
And now she is doing full water fasts. To me that is concerning, she's clearly in need of some help.
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i saw a post on ilbe(cel) from an older korean saying BTS and bighit with every boyband copying that generally rip off gackt's look and (although i honestly don't think kpop copies j-stuff much) i think its true, especially because the look resembles j-rocker stuff way more than j-boybands. gackt is also a fucking weirdo
Jfc I shouldn't have opened this. I have no words for this tbh.
Look at all those older men… I feel sick.
I can't understand Japanese but I hope there's some people who've called this shit out.
>>33472>Don't think kpop copies j-stuff much
You can't be serious
Kpop fans are so thirsty it's hilarious. I saw a fancam of a unpopular member racking up a lot of views in a short amount of time and wondered what the hell was going on until I realized it was because of his fucking thighs
While kpop and korea copy a ton, I don't see it? There are no similarities other than the hair?
And Gackt might be weird, but any kpop boy would die to have an ounce of the talent (and money) he has
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I've always thought momo's jaw is kinda square for kpop standards so I wonder how did they not cut her jaw into a dorito one.
I checked out the comments and from what I read they're all disgusted and disturbed by the images
On another note: like another anon said before, why is this stuff being posted in the kpop thread when there's a jpop thread? What is your reason for posting it here? Im pretty sure most people already know that jpop idol stuff is (openly) much worse than kpop stuff (stuff like this probably happens "behind the scenes" in kpop) so idk what your point is>>33497
Yeah me too. Good for her I guess. But I seriously hate the way she/they does her eye makeup, and I'm sure she would look much better without it. Also with some braces for her teeth (I'm not even a twice fan I just see her pics around)
i don't think any JYP artists got the dorito treatment. he left the wonder girls faces alone. maybe min from miss a? sunmi and fei appear to have gangnam'd themselves when they went solo
i don't think he did anything to twice's jaws just their facial features
so far he has left chaeryeong's face and ryujin's chin alone too, but yuna looks like she was born a gangnam unnie
literal pedophilia was legal in japan until not too long ago
including child porn so yeah
late but the original sistar/wjsn version was also amazing lmao https://twitter.com/honey_thighs/status/847703477299982336?s=09
now a lot of these quotes make way more sense>save wonho he's the hot one>monsta x: we just want our phones to text bitches… >the only action we get is in our MVs…>with eachother…
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Apparently they were even given gifts.
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Fake woke stans' double standards at their best. I think only one guy in txt is underage - so what if some of their fans are a few years older? I don't understand why they would like them, but let's not act as if these women are pedos.
Meanwhile 14-year-old izone members dressed in stockings dancing for a horde of 50-year-old men are "queens"…
Why do all of them look the same? V-shaped chin, protruding ears and eyes that say "I'm scared of my own reflection in the mirror".
He has the charisma of a towel, he just started yet has zero energy/motivation, as if mommy and daddy forced him to participate.
And his "moves"…
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stop with your own double standards, every group has their creeps.
Next thread pic pls kek>>33515>Insert fucking_calm_down_greg.jpg >>33472
Ilbe is shit but points were made
Yes, but if a guy in his late teens has female fans who are maybe 5 years older than him then this is a whole different story than middle aged men stanning girls who've barely reached puberty. Your random ass exo example from years back doesn't change that.
My main complaint was that while fans call out slightly older female fans, they have zero problems with male fans who are old enough to be a female idol's father.
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now you're just moving the goalposts(ban evasion)
Think of all the previous gossip surrounding Jennie in particular. I think she has a bitchy aura which 1)makes it hard to discern between whether I should truly be tinfoiling or if I'm just a vendetta-chan and 2)provides an easy breeding ground for rumors.
Not to sound like Knetz with muh physiognomy but she's never sat well with me.
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her eyes used to look smaller. i think she might have gotten surgery on them, but i don't know anything about ps.
Apologies for doubleposting but I lol'd
>1:49 "music video" shot infront of a pink backdrop that every basic youtuber owns>holding one of those $10 moon lamps that were popular in 2013>only outfit is a wrinkled white shirt>crusty lips>every line is autotuned because she can't sing>footage is grainy and the bitrate is so low it looks like it was recorded on a webcam>lyrics are co-written even though the whole song is a whopping 6 lines>tagged as #kpop
This is just sad.
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Momo is wearing tit and hip pads. It looks so bad. JYP is trying real hard to sexualize Twice, doesn't Nayeon wear ass pads? I think Jiwhatever her name is got breast implants
Squeezing yourself into those mini shorts and topping it of with pulling the belt as tight as possible cannot be healthy. And it's not just 10 minutes, idols constantly complain about eating 100 calories a day, only 3 hours of sleep, having to practice for 15 hours etc. every single day. (If that's not considered harmful for a pregnant woman, then maybe we should stop feeling any pity for idols in general? Since it's not even that bad, amirite?)
This is not the same as normal women doing light jogging or pilates during their pregnancy. >>33567
Nevertheless, still not even remotely as bad as way older men doing that with even younger girls.
People here even brought up that twice having a fanbase of young men in their 20s and 30s is something positive - because hey, they could be 50 as well.
Nobody would give a shit if a mid-20s guy was a fan of an 18-year-old female idol.
Quit ban evading.
While we're at it, Minhwan impregnanted Yulhee when he was in his mid 20s and she just a teen…
Isn't that disgusting, too? Or maybe even worse…?
Eh, can’t help but feel a bit bad for ex-trainees like Grace to spend much of their integral years training and performing only to end up washed out without many marketable real-world skills in the end. Being a successful idol’s a pipe dream and only attainable for the top 0.1% of trainees from rich and influential families. And being a successful idol comes with more cons than pros. Sadly these kids and teens are deceived by predatory companies and don’t realize until it’s too late how much they’ve wasted.
Still Grace has even admitted herself that her singing sucks so I don’t know what she’s doing trying to be a singer. Should just stick to tea-spilling videos for now and maybe build a career outside of anything entertainment-related.
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It’s never too late to go back to school and get an education. Their trouble is they can’t move on or find another dream and that’s why they end up in an even worse situation
Grace is kinda lucky that Kpop is so popular in the west right now as more people are likely to watch her videos.
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I had to do a double take when I came across this picture, can someone explain why the fuck he is wearing a literal collar?? >>33522
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also have people forgotten 'like ooh ahh'? Tzuyu was 16 I think?
Are you a jyp stan? Not the company but jyp himself kek>>33595
Yeah also dont forget this sexy cf of tzuyu when she was only 16
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And this was Somi when she was 14
I can't help but feel sorry for them. They're not the best, but to me they're waaay more talented and capable than the bigger, more popular girl groups such as bp and twice. They kinda missed their chance to become big are now overshadowed by the newer, more successful group.
I'm guessing we'll hear about their disbandment soon.
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I'm asking the same thing. Why do these things exists?
Seungyeon is legit a good dancer imo, and Yeeun is a better rapper than most girl groups have. I feel sorry that they're been wasted here.
I feel like Cube tried out too many different styles with them and it's only hurt their chances of being known. Like BP and Twice may not be talented, but you know what image they sell and what they are going to put out. CLC does not have that consistency. Example: The follow up to Hobgoblin should have been Black Dress, not Where Are You/Distance. They shouldn't have waited nearly a year between Black Dress and No.
But Cube cannot manage a group successfully for the life of them so.
It's really not their best and promo for it has been messy.>>33611
I was actually a huge fan of Where Are You but agree the timing was really off since they don't have an established dual concept like Red Velvet
nope female pedos/predators can die horrible painful long slow deaths just like the male ones can
fuck all of them
The OP is a screenshot about some little girl complaining that girls who are uni aged (meaning: NOT 40 or 50) dared to look at her Oppars.
And Jimin is already 24 aka mid 20s too.
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lol i lowkey wish there were english speaking auntie fansites because they all tend to be extremely dramatic, post copypasta-tier things about the idol they stalk and their "no guys i'm not a sasaeng i swear!!" fights with other fans are amusing.
Anon, I'm the OP lol. And I mentioned Jimin, because the anon whom I replied to suddenly started talking about him.
Maybe try listening to your own advice next time, okay?
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Are you the same sperg who likes to claim that uncle fans are much worse than sasaeng fans?
Saesang =/= randomn fan at a concert who happens to be a bit older than the idol
Quit bringing up unrelated things.
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someone memed the death stranding trailer and stans are already throwing a fit lol
Agreed. It's sad that they'll eventually be pushed aside by G-idle (who have a consistent theme and style) despite being more talented than them by a landslide. All of CLC can sing properly and perform well, but G-idle's only strong point is their rapper. Every time I watch that group perform I'm just waiting for someone to hit a wrong note or even for Soyeon to get off beat.
It's really unfortunate because CLC has had some really nice b-sides unlike a lot of girl groups. Cube worst company
Seems like more and more bullying victims
of idols speak out. And taking into account just how severe bullying in Korea can be, they absolutely deserve having their careers ruined. http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/05/jho-low-linked-to-yang-hyun-suk-through.html?m=1
If Psy really is involved, then the whole scandal could garner more international interest, hopefully causing Seungri and co. to get harsher punishment.
The problem with G-Idle is that Soyeon is too integral to the whole setup. You remove her and you start to see the how some of the members completely lack the presence and talent she has, such as Shuhua.
With CLC I feel the only one that lacks presence at times is Seunghee, but she's still good at singing. I like both CLC and G-Idle's songs but performance wise I much rather watch CLC.
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it was one of the run way looks this season. hes a brand representative so they always put him in smth from a runway no matter how dumb it looks
Tbh he looks better than that male "model"
High fashion is hideous