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Happy birthday to Roberu!
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>>>/m/194814>>>/m/263786>>>/m/297793What is a vtuber?
>An online entertainer or live streamer who is typically represented by a digital avatar generated by computer graphics such as Live2D.This thread is made to discuss your favorite Vtubers, news surrounding the topic, and other stuff!
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Hololive
>HololivePLUS app announced>HololiveEN held their first ever concert>Hololive released a new experimental generation -REgloss- that focuses on music production>Hololive EN released a new generation Advent>HololiveEN Council announces 3D Showcase streams>HololiveID got their new outfits>HololiveID concert announced>HoloMyth Amelia and Gura got a new outfit, HoloJP gen7 got new outfits>Takanashi Kiara announced her first solo album>HoloENMyth celebrated their anniversary>HololiveJP Pekora will hold her first ever solo Live concert>HololiveJP Towa will hold her first ever solo Live concertHolostars
>HOLOSTARS Vesper got a new model upgrade, redrawing and rerigging his whole model>HOLOSTARS Vesper and Magni graduated and chose to go back to Twitch>HOLOSTARS EN held their 1st year anniversary>Roberu celebrated his birthdayNijisanji
>New NijisanjiEN wave -heroes- debuts>Gundo Mirei, one of the NijisanjiJP most successful talents, got forced into hiatus, and then graduation>NijisanjiJP legend (and the first person to who YAGOO superchatted) Maimoto Kisuke took an indefinite hiatus>NijisanjiEN Nina Kosaka graduated>NijidanjiEN Mysta Rias graduated>NijisanjiID Hyona Elatiora graduated>NijisanjiEN Obsydia and Iluna gens held their first anniversary>NijisanjiEN Selen and Pomu got a new outfit>Nijisanji EN Pomu and Selen made a mini-visual novel to celebrate their new outfits and anniversaryOthers
>AkioAIR got intro controversy for accepting a minor, half of her new generation graduated and posted their experiences with the corporations management and how predatory the corporation is>Vshojo announced a new secret member (people suspect its either Nina or Mysta, most likely Mysta)>Vshojo announced GEEGA as their new member No. 324511
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Thank you for the thread nonna!
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Is anyother nonnie feeling vtuber burnout lately? I still watch my oshi here and there but there's so much saturation nowadays I'm falling out of love for vtubers and with all the graduation and drama ..I still watch my oshi though
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>>324519Nonnie I feel kinda similar, even worse. I had two oshis, one was streaming at a good hour for me while the other wasn't so I was vod gang. But lately I can't even sit and watch their streams for long. I used to watch games I'm interested in and zatsus, then put other streams as bg noise but I haven't really had the need to watch full streams even when it's games I like lately. I just put it on if I come across it. I kinda miss when I was getting food and waiting for my oshi's stream every day kek but I guess the novelty wears off even after being a part of my routine for so long. I used to search for clips from their friends too but now I don't wanna know what anyone's doing with all this drama lol
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>>324511My pleasure! I am glad you liked it.
Which reminds me, i was planning on writing a post about Nijisanji not allowing Selen to create her own events anymore, etc, which is extremely unfair. I think I will make sure to post Selen as OP in next thread, she is a lovely dragon after all.
>>324519Ive been feeling that way for over a year now. In the end I got too tired of western drama and cliques surrounding eachother that I usually watch big events or streams of vtubers that are professional and work under a corp, or they are small and drama-free without any wrong "vibe". At a first glance, its tough to find women and men who are not obviously here for the clout and money, but there are good vtubers out there. I sadly feel too worried to mention the indies names in this thread because I don't want their names to be associated with vt or lc (because as you know, vt men pretend that all of the doxxing comes from here).
Outside that, i stick to watching Baelz, Bijou, Miko, Suisei and Advent collabs.
No. 324590
>>324519Not burntout but I'm still suscribed to a few Niji guys even though I haven't watched a full stream in years.
They can be fun in clips still but I just don't feel like watching hours of Minecraft or Apex or whatever random grinding game/dumb indie horror they tend to play.
No. 324607
>>324519Tbh that was me a few months ago, but I watch more than I used to ever since Advent debuted. I know that FWMC have been… controversial here, to say the least, but the level fo kayfabe they bring to the Western vtubing scene + their commitment to idol culture + general consitency have really reinvigorated my motivation to watch a vtuber. It's a low bar nowadays, but they're relisble, and I can count on them to continue delivering a positive and reliable time.
And just generally speaking, it's a good time to be a Hololive fan. I'd consider it one of the few areas of Western vtubing that are doing alright nowadays. Trouble comes in waves, so it's sure to break sooner or later. But right now? It's good.
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>>324607Agree with you wholeheartedly.
I enjoy watching FWMC morning streams, they are amazing. The fact how they actually care about their audience and treat Hololive like a job (unlike many of the ENs other than Baelz and Kiara) is something else. I do not like their choices of games so I only watch FWMC karaoke (which are always SO DAMN GOOD. these girls are crazy!?, collabs, mornings and that one Fuwa-solo stream where she played Phasmophobia.
I dont think what they do is a "low bar". They are geniunely putting effort in things they do, even to think about it, they always write scripts for fwmc and make sure that they keep themselves in character on stream and social media. It is quite a dedication. Way better than going the usual "easy route" when a person would try going gfe mode for easy simp money. I am glad they filter out ironic weebs tbf.
Its also refreshing to see en vtubers make sure their viewers are getting better instead of using them as a shoulder to cry on. The "fuwamoco morning outings" alone is a smart way to give someone a habit of going outside and enjoying the day with photography and whatnot.
>>324608I lost respect for him shortly.
Yesterday, vshojo had its Kuro announcement. By the looks of it, he tweeted something on his Mysta account (people were bombarding him with replies). Then 2 minites before kuro debut, he tweeted it on his roommate account.
As long as shit gives him money, he will go anywhere. Wont be surprised if Vesper and Magni join too. Especially Magni.
No. 324611
>>324529i stick to mostly indie streamers on twitch who don't do many collabs if at all, so less chance for drama and random graduations because of black companies. i sub to a few nijisanji and hololive people and i get how it's tiring to watch them especailly since they stick to the same old games like apex, minecraft, or the small list of games the company has obtained permission to stream.
>>324608vshojo is pretty lax about its members. i think hime barely streams because of her other identity and she's still in the company and gets money from merch sales and promotions they do with other companies. from kson's words, her contract also improved after their biggest vtubers left. vshojo can play whatever games they want without having it just be apex so it looks appealing to him that he would join i guess.
No. 324615
>>324611The Hime thing low key pisses me off because she was already a popular AnitUber and clearly did Hime purely for clout. Someone made a model for her only so she could never stream yet still reap the benefits of merchandising.
Maybe it’s also because I already don’t like her other identity much either.
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>>324519I actually just got into it (about 2 weeks ago) and pretty much walked into picrel w graduation / drama etc. My first exposure to vtubers was merryweather and shoto (kek) because a few acquaintances I know simp for them, then youtube rec'd me vox (double kek) w algo. On a surface level they were fine, just a few dirty jokes and fujobaiting, but then found them too disgusting to keep watching, esp after reading about them in the threads. So ig I speedran burnout for them.
I still do like the chara design for Vox / what he is like when he's not acting like a coomer (which is him 99% of the time lol), but I guess that's the majority of male vtubers. I do like Ike tho, I like to have him as my bg noise and I like how he doesn't like being parasocial / doesn't pander, just seems like a cute nerdy guy and I find his voice soothing. Even if he's secretly a coomer, he doesn't talk about that stuff on stream which is what matters at the end of the day. I also like Shu for similar reasons.
For female youtubers I really like Kotoka and Selen b/c they don't do that whole loli pandering bs. I can't stand the squeaky voice bullshit, it just makes my ears bleed. Idk who else to watch b/c I'm pretty new to all this, feel free to rec anyone who's not a total degen. I need more based female vtubers on my list.
Autosage for newfag + no1curr sperg
No. 324619
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so it was mysta after all, that didn't take long. I knew the moid couldn't go without the attention.
>no babying
We'll see how that goes.
No. 324620
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>>324616>Hololive>Hololive JP: Botan, Suisei, Iroha, AZki, Fubuki (i recommend watching her Mads Mikkelsen obsession, he actually had an interview with her), Towa, Polka, Ao, Raden, Watame>Hololive EN-speaking JP: Lui, Subaru>Hololive EN-speaking ID: Kaela, Moona, Anya, Reine>Hololive EN: Baelz, Ina, Amelia, Mori, possibly Kiara as i dont watch her as much. Honorable mentions: Pekora, Bijou (EN), Miko, Nene - high-pitched or "anime" voices filter you out so i put them there. Pekora is #1 and now loved by Kojima for a reason. I recommend checking out PekoMoon story arc.
The only HOLOSTARS EN guy that I watch is Axel and Shinri, but Hakka and Bettel left a good impression on me.
>HOLOSTARS JP: Oga, Roberu, Shien
>Nijisanji: I dropped the corporation after they mistreated my oshi (it was before nijiEN massive graduations). But i can vouch for Honma and Inui Toko. Also Ren Zotto who doesnt seem to lewdbait and was the only person to be mature and professional during the graduation drama of one of the EN girls. No. 324629
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She'sunironically a coomer but I can't help watching her and crushing on her. I love what a dweeb she is and her rare ikemen moments just absolutely destroy me. I totally understand why she has so many hardcore female fans amongst both other female vtubers and viewers. Crucify me.
No. 324630
>>324616JP streamers from youtube: @Dola @KishidoTemma @yashirokizuku @himono_vtuber
EN streamer from twitch: FroggyLoch
>>324620nta, i like ogas event. is roberu actually an oneeshota fan as said?
No. 324655
>>324616This might be controversial here but I don't mind Vox at all. While his content is not my cup of tea, it was a breath of fresh air to have a guy openly pander to his female fans and deliver what they wanted. The inevitable drama was, imho, inevitable, but as far as I've seen from him he doesn't really have a cruel bone in his body when he interacts with his peers. He's gotten better over time too and I hope he can find more comfort being more of a "brotuber".
Nijisanji as a whole has plummeted so hard though… I find it difficult to watch them with the same enthusiasm as I did before, but I've never liked most of Hololive because most of them are idols and I am personally not just an idol enthusiast. For Holostars, I was big into Vesper when he first debuted, but the more he went on, the more I lost respect for him. I enjoyed Bettel a lot, but his shtick grew old for me fast. I want to give Hakka a try, but I think I am suffering from burnout and should just avoid them for now.
I wish I spoke Japanese so I could truly enjoy the JP livers for Niji and Holo, they seem to be less infested with drama. I do still listen to Kanae from NijiJP though because his voice is very soothing.
As for Mysta… I am sort of disappointed that he chose to redebut this quickly, but I don't blame him for leaving Nijisanji. I don't think I'd want to stick around with that company knowing all we know now. He is a mess himself, and while I think he redebuted a little bit too fast, I don't blame him too much. I won't watch him though because his PL seems really vile and he comes off as the average mentally ill coombrained pedo. No thanks.
Thank you for coming to my blogpost.
No. 324713
>>324655Idk much about Vox as a person, but the reason people dislike him is because even though he panders to women he clearly uses it as an excuse to be a coomer.
Even in his ASMR’s he tends to showcase some kind of disturbing fetishes. Such as pretending to do things to the often female coded listener such as slapping them, spitting on them, degrading them , not to mention how so many of his ASMR’s are r*pe/dubcon fantasies. Even in his more wholesome ASMR’s you end up getting stuff like that.
It’s fine to enjoy his content, and idk the guy personally enough to say whether or not he sucks irl. But I mainly dislike him for being a coomer.
No. 324718
>>324619That clip of him going through his “dislikes” is pissing me off. God he seems like such a dickhead about everything. Him talking about how he hates fandoms when he’s obsessed with nagatoro as his “Waifu.”
Maybe I’m just nitpicking
No. 324750
>>324713>>324741I think it's funny that he expected his fans to have a healthy reaction to his shift in focus, too. Like, you really think that healthy women are into the degrading shit you put out?
When it comes to heavy fanservice male vtubers, I think Doppio is the only one I actually find tolerable. He has an actual personality that's not based in coomerism and uses his fanservice like an actual collaborative creative medium between himself and his fans rather than as an outlet for his own fetishes. And he's an actual adult who knows how to take care of himself, so you're not going to see him having a menhera breakdown over infantilization from his fans like a few of the other notable "safe" male vtubers.
Genuinely not trying to shill here as whether he's your taste or not is a different matter, but it's sad how hard it is to find a male vtuber that can provide decent fanservice without making it all about his own gratification.
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>>324750I still can’t believe he thought sharing his full ADHD and C-PTSD mental diagnosis to his audience was a good idea to “bring awareness”. Even Mysta of all people made fun of him for that, kek. I get that he recently just entered his 20s, but jesus he always puts his entire brain out there for any onlooker to poke and pick at. I knew he was fucking mental when he got upset about his fans calling him “fat” after he posted a picture of his midsection. They were all saying he had a sexy dadbod and he had a meltdown bad enough to make him get a personal trainer.
No. 324786
>>324769I mean if you want to get real analytical, no, I don't think it's good that he creates content that exploits unhealthy fetishes for financial profit and personal sexual gratification.
Is this whole "Vox's existence is feminist" discussion going to reoccur every thread?
No. 324826
>>324822Glad somebody else thinks so, wasn't sure if I was being a schizo.
Anyways… I've been watching more Hakka lately, I'm surprised at hoe funny he is? He's a great singer, too, I find myself enjoying hid covers along with Axel's more than any other male vtuber.
I feel like I see him talked about the least out of the Tempus boys, which is kind of surprising considering his sub count is comparable to Bettel's. Also did not realize that he shares a mama with Kaida Haru– what a theowback, I used to watch the guy a lot.
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>>324826Hakka's really funny and feels like he really appreciates his audience. Since his first OG song I've been keeping up with his covers/songs and he kills it every time. He feels like a real holostar. It's nice to see that such a passionate streamer and singer got accepted into EN, he seems to be giving energy to the others too. Shame I'm not a burger so no EN holostar's schedule is fit for me… If I had time to watch someone else's vods other than my stars oshi Hakka would definitely be my choice.
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>>324844Who's your stars oshi? I feel like we rarely get proper JPstars discussion here. Mine is picrel and Aruran, so I‘m a Yurustars hako oshi by proxy.
No. 324851
>>324847In the video it seems like he’s trying to pin it on his company instead of admitting he fucked up.
Unless he did hire an accountant that was just real shit at their job, which apparently has happened before.
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>>324850It's Flayon, I meant I only have time to catch up to one EN star's vods. But I do watch JPstars clips when I find them. There my oshi would be Izuru because I absolutely adore his voice and singing skill. His stream time is really good for me but I don't like watching the fiftieth FPS stream of the month kek I do watch his other streams cause I love hearing his voice even without understanding him though. I love Rio's voice a lot too and keep up with his covers and karaoke. From the clips I saw there's something to like about all of them, Shien and Oga would probably be my other oshis if I understood Japanese. At the risk of getting booed, I'll admit I like when men do proper fanservice for women lol
>we rarely get proper JPstars discussion hereWish there were more starsfags here so I could keep up with them without having to be involved with discord servers and twitter cults
No. 324951
>>324861I agree with you irt the fanservice from the JPstars, I've always felt that Shien in particular does a good job catering to his female fans. Not only with his nice voice but also his past game choices like his series of Twisted Wonderland streams– it was fun watching him genuinely enjoy a joseimuke.
I think Oga is also great for female fans, but it feels less like deliberate fanservice and just him naturally getting along with women? He's fun, respectful, and nice, and I love his gap moe when it comes to things like his cute little drawings and moments of pon. He and Aruran are probably the Stars members I most want as family, along with maybe Axel from Tempus.
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I’ll wait for a 3D show from Maria no matter how long it takes. She’s already having so much fun making dancing shorts with her VR model, who knows what she’ll do when she has 3D.
No. 325192
>>324850NTA, but I want to shill Rio! He has a soothing voice that is easy to listen to even if you don't really understand Japanese. He's generally pretty wholesome and doesn't do coomerbait content at all (from what I understand) and when he does interact with the other Holostars members in shippy/bantery ways, it's usually in a way that's seen as cute. I like that he puts in the effort to interact with English speaking vtubers (his Fall Guys stream with Hakka is a good example of this) and vtubers from other companies, and that he acknowledges English comments in his chat if they're simple enough.
Of course, his singing voice is also great! Vidrel is one of his more iconic streams where he invited a lot of guests for his 1 year anniversary as a Holostars member to sing with him.
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>Complain about ex company not helping him with taxes
>Complain about ex coworkers not helping him with taxes (they're not in the same country)
>Turns out he admitted as Mysta that the problem is him not knowing you have to pay taxes for things you buy, he's in 350K in debt because he didn't pay property tax
>Turns out he did get help about his usual taxes from the company, they just didn't get involved in his personal finances
>New company magically got him out of a 350K debt
>Still talks shit about the company
>Left for "creative freedom"
>Creative freedom is watching tiktoks on twitch
>Tells his Mysta fans to fuck off
>All the normal fans are leaving, only the shizos and incels are left
He's doing all this to himself, can't wait for him to have another breakdown and leave Vshojo and also talk shit about them. When he graduated I really thought he was going to take time off to focus on himself. Forgot he's an attention hungry menhera
No. 325208
>>325204I'm starting to think the beef with his ex friends might not have been unwarranted too. He's the type to burn bridges. and I forgot to add
>Luca calls him out for slandering their company, says they knew what they signed up for while agreeing to work hereIt just seems like Mysta didn't know how to adult in general. It's not weird that he would make mistakes in his first big boy job but the fact that he can't accept those are his mistakes and not random people around him is annoying af
No. 325269
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Guess I was right in saying he had more than ADHD
No. 325288
>>325200I didn’t know he talked shit about his old coworkers and dissed his old fans.
God this guy seems like such a douche, he clearly cannot handle having a large following yet is too attention hungry to stick to being small (which would probably be much healthier for him)
I remember on his personal account as blu he once tweeted asking people to buy him shit like games and figures too on some website. And his frivolous spending is batshit insane it’s pathetic.
I feel empathy for him because of his mental health and past financial struggles. But it’s just so hard keeping that empathy seeing the way he acts.
No. 325307
>>325303I doubt he will actually seek to Better himself anytime soon. He’s gonna do what he always does, go menhera after a while and quit again. Then go on to shit talk all his “friends” at vshojo. He would greatly benefit from taking a break from streaming and social media in general, it’s clearly terrible for his mental health.
But he won’t, because he needs money to blow on Gacha games and things he doesn’t need.
I genuinely do feel bad for him and I wish he would try and get better. But it’s hard to see that happening.
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autosage for blogposting / no1curr
I love this nerdy cute novelist. I get that he's not the most high energy VTuber to watch but out of all the male chuubas he seems like one of the 'normal ones'. Doesn't do the whole "haha seggs joke so funny" shit and other gross stuff that most moid streamers resort to. His character design is also cute, but then again I have a thing for 2d men in glasses kek
I've also been watching Luca and he's my second favorite so far if not liking him as almost as the same level as Ike, he also seems well adjusted and I love the whole goofy golden retriever persona. I'm definitely super late to the party, but I've been enjoying watching clips and VODs of them so far. Kinda wish that the whole Luxiem drama didn't happen, would have loved to see their 3D model do concerts, what a shame
No. 325383
>>325269nitpicking but didn't he make fun of Vox for telling his fans about his ADHD diagnosis? then he turns around and shows the whole world that he's on the spectrum kek
>>325200thanks for the TLDR nonna, idk how people still watch this dude after all the drama he's caused out of his own retardedness. I get that financial illiteracy is a serious issue that's hard to address, but he really couldn't hire some financial advisor with all the chinese sugar mommy money he was raking in? I had no clue about the 350k debt due to not knowing how to pay property taxes, that's a whole new level of tard
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>>325382nonna ily Ike is my oshi and even though he might have some questionable sides to him they rarely come forward in streams and it's just so nice to be able to enjoy a nice swedish ikeman who doesn't pander disgustingly and is just focusing on streaming and his hobbies
No. 325827
Was watching some Tenma this weekend. Her video talking about husbandos and how much she likes widowed fathers and how she wants to mindbreak them is very cute.
(idk why the embed isn't working for me)
https://www.youtube.com/live/CzLT2GW5ja8 No. 326309
>>326255I was just surprised at the number of anons in this thread who said they like FWMC. It feels like they go against what most farmers would like, but to each her own, I guess.
>>326304Most people have never heard adult women speak their native language in such a jumbled way, myself included
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This god damn off-collab better lead to an announcement for new outfits and not just be another really awkward and boring management-conducted one like the Luxiem one.
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Sage for blogposting and my personal complaints. I started vtubing a few weeks ago, and it's 100% just for my own fun. I'm putting time and effort into what I'm making, and doing more than just streaming, so I'm lucky to be gaining a few hundred followers. I only expect this to be a hobby for me. I don't expect this to ever pay my rent. In fact I expect it to be a net financial loss.
That being said, I've seen too many people in the vtubing scene who act like spoilt whiny babies when they only have 100 followers after a year or got rejected from Hololive for the umpteenth time when all they do is the absolute bare minimum. All they do is get a model, then start streaming the same handful of games for a couple of hours every week, then expect the followers to come rolling in.
No advertising themselves, no experimenting with new and unique stuff, no trying to find a niche (like ASMR, language teaching, creating artwork or music, handcams). Just, 'wah wah wah, why won't Hololive hire me, I streamed 200 hours this past year and I draw anime sometimes.'
Of course you 'deserve' to be in Hololive. Everyone and their mom wants to play vidya for a living and be showered in cash and fanart. But you've done nothing new, you don't have good conversational skills or banter, and you'd probably crack under pressure the moment more than 20 people were watching your stream and you started receiving death threats.
(I'm sure there are very good streamers who just haven't picked up momentum yet, but 99% of amateur Vtubers are doing the same, mediocre things. Nonnies who are just vtubing for fun, this isn't directed at you.)
No. 326477
>>326467I used to Vtube for fun too but stopped bcs I was quite tired juggling between work and streaming for a year (it was my fault tho for my bad scheduling). I've been planning to stream again and try being chill with my schedule.
I agree with your points. It's quite funny for me to see them whining about numbers and how they are qualified to be in Vtuber agencies but all they do are involving themselves into dramas, doing controversy takes and baiting people with having big boobas and say lewd things. Tbh I wanna see Vtubers that has the same vibes as Jerma/Vinny Vinesauce and female Vtubers who do otome contents.
No. 326487
>>326474>>326477I could never judge someone who's just doing it for fun, and wish I could see your streams!
At least lewdtubers are providing something (sexual titillation) even though I don't like it. But if all someone is doing is playing flavor of the week games and commenting on it, and wants to make it into Holo/Niji, I feel like they need an exceptionally charismatic personality. Like, people were happy to sit and listen to Vesper talk for an hour about cooking chili, because he was entertaining to listen to.
Too many amateur vtubers are focusing on ~muh lore~ but literally no one cares about how you're a half vampire half succubus from the year 2123 with a magic sword or whatever if you have a dry personality and no life experiences.
If you don't have exceptional people skills and you want to make it as a vtuber, I feel like you need to start honing some other kind of skill, like singing, ASMR, multilingual skills, or making edited videos. Sitting there and playing games on Twitch is the bare minimum.
Anyways /end my 2nd blogpost and RIP to my male acquaintance who has been trying to vtube as a 'career' for like a year now and has less than 200 twitch followers kek.
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Anyone who's keeping up with Merry got any milk on why he's doing this? General burnout?
Autosage for newfag
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>>326243I'm gonna sperg.
I'm Korean and IDGAF lol. I've seen a lot of racefakers and disrespectful weebs in my time and they're not that. They're fluent in the language of the culture they love and they're always respectful. They've made it clear on their RM accounts both of their own volition and every time it has come up that they are White. Their speech may be sort of cringe but it mostly reads as them trying to be cute. It's not like they're using incorrect grammar or mispronouncing words in a slapdash approximation of ESL speech. And the age isn't an issue to me because most of my favorite vtubers are of a similar age. What are you going to do next, cancel Korone?
I really did dislike them the most at the beginning. And honestly, I still don't enjoy them in collabs and a lot of their gaming content because it's just not that interesting beyond "cute girls make funny noises". But being as big a fan of Hololive as I am, spending time with them in a zatsu setting or in FWMC morning was bound to turn my stance around on them as people. They're always punctual, always present quality, and have an incredible depth of knowledge stemming from actual decades of passion far beyond most fans any Japanese cultural product. I really do enjoy hearing them sperg about their interests and bring that same enthusaism to their work as vtubers. It's earnest and refreshing.
Not to be accusatory, but I really do think a lot of the hate levied towards them is coming from people who dislike Hololive to begin with and are simply buying into an overblown narrative of their supposed wrongs. Either that or you only watch a couple of the ENs and aren't a fan of Hololive as a whole. It's just too hypocritical to disavow them while still supporting a lot of the other big Hololive names.
The only thing you can really "get" them on is alleged incest baiting, but it's really not that present and the whole thing is just what you'd expect of twins who have based their entire entertainment career off of being twins. If that's someone's issue, that's completely fair and I actually would agree with you in that I plan to dip if it gets worse.
No. 326539
>>326512Ayrt, I can see the points of your argument. They do at least seem like they want to be in Hololive and care about being there unlike some of the talents, so I can see the appeal of that.
The only things I'll add is that their downsides are things I personally can't stand. I only mention their age because of the uwu voice. Maybe some could argue it's their devotion to the role and shows how good performers they are, but I simply can't do with uwu voice. I'm sure their natural voices are lovely and appealing, but I just can't sit there and listen to the garbled uwuspeak. Never met anyone who speaks like that irl.
I also feel like they like/support lolicon culture. Maybe this sounds more like a tinfoil hat, but I'm pretty sure I've seen posts from their past life of them enjoying loli stuff. I know it's prevalent in a lot of anime, but loli is just a personal no-go for me.
Blogpost but I grew up watching anime and playing eroge, so for a while, I was brainwashed by that sort of culture, too. But it's been a few decades for both me and them.
No. 326540
>>326539samefag continuing to blogpost but I feel like so much of being an anime or vtubing fan as an adult is choosing which '
problematic' parts you're tolerate and which parts are a hard no from you
Like I know a lot of Hololive is lolis, or people putting on voices, but I just try to choose talents to avoid it. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite but meh.
No. 326600
>>326539AYRT
I think the nonpreference for their voices is fair, and you're entitled to that. It's up to personal taste, and I do understand what you mean when it comes to some other vtubers. For example, I respect Bijou as a streamer but I can't get behind the actual loli model coupled with a forced child voice on any woman. Same goes for Luna from JP actively infantilizing herself, although I think it's not as bad these days as it was a couple years ago.
I've never really gotten the lolicon vibe from them TBH. They like cute anime girl designs in general, but actively lusting after lolis is a level of degeneracy I just wouldn't be able to get behind.
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>>326600Based
nonnie having an internet disagreement in a civilized way. Idk if I'll ever watch them but I can see your appreciation.
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Looks like Nina is joining Vshojo. People found from her steam and minecraft name being changed. It seems she'll be a cockroach-themed tuber.
No. 326647
>>326645You're good nonna.
Anyways, maybe I'm too much of a purist, but I always feel it's kind of sad when vtubers end up in Vshojo. It feels like it's becoming a dumping ground for anyone done with regular corporate life. It also feels a little backstab-y to get fans worked up over your graduation, then resurface a few weeks later. Well, I hope she does well anyways. She seems nice.
No. 326656
>>326647I just dislike it when they talk like they're done with the industry for the foreseeable future or imply that they're going to take a long break or give any other number of serious reasons and then turn around and negate it all with a rapid reincarnation.
I like her, but it reminds me of how Suzuhuara Lulu stated fan stalking as a reason for graduation and then quickly redebuted as a fleshtuber. Hard to blame fans for feeling emotionally twisted around by it.
I think part of the blame does just lie around the traditions of vtuber culture, though. Especially when it comes to corpo graduations.
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New teaser, zoom and enhance in a sec.
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>>326658I hope she actually retains the messed up insect hands from the teaser despite this being a pretty generic anime girl face. Do something marginally interesting.
No. 326676
>>326656I don't closely follow Nina, but didn't she give an excuse during graduation, something like she felt like she wasn't performing well anymore and was a disappointment?
I'm too lazy to actually verify this lol. But I wonder if it was just an excuse.
Tbf, I guess you can't really say 'Niji is a sinking ship and I'm done.'
No. 326677
>>326669I like Juniper! I love the work and dedication she puts into her own model, which is also why I don't think it'll be her as IIRC she likes inhabiting the product of her own work.
>>326676She implied that she'd be taking a year minimum break.
No. 326679
>>326664It feels very disingenuous that they bothered holding auditions if they only intended to hire friends and vtubers who were already famous.
I mean I get that it works great for them, but to me it feels like they don't bring anything fresh to the industry. At least Hololive takes a gamble on smaller creators who seem promising.
No. 326691
>>326498Idk what’s going on with him, but I’ve never liked him as a content creator. Everything he does seems calculated in a way that’s just trying to get fame and views. Including his vtubing career. He’s not an untalented writer and occasionally will put out some genuinely good stuff, but he very clearly cares about getting as much clout as possible first and foremost.
Maybe he’s acting like this because his attempt at a vtubing group flopped or something…idk.
No. 326702
>>326600>They like cute anime girl designs in general, but actively lusting after lolis is a level of degeneracy I just wouldn't be able to get behind.I feel like there's a level of cultural nuance to it when people like Fubuki or Flare say they like loli. The way I see it, it's kind of like how people say they like furry; we might think of the animal fucker fursuit wearing degenerate types, but it might just be they like funny Zootopia/Beastars animal people.
>>326691>Maybe he’s acting like this because his attempt at a vtubing group flopped or something…idk.Tell me more about this kek.
No. 326794
>>326702Basically about a month ago Merry officially created his own vtubing company called astraline. With that a vtubing group was created(also called astraline) that included him , lumi and 3 newly debuted vtubers.
Of course merry slapped his own face at the forefront of this group but that’s not too important.
Besides that the 3 newly debuted vtubers seem to be making very little noise and getting little traction. The most followers one has is 12k and the two others haven’t broken 10k yet.
Obviously this could change in the future and followers aren’t everything, it should be about enjoying yourself. But Merry has always seemed like the type of creator to care about popularity and views more than anything.
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Looks like he isn’t gonna quit after all.
Anyone has any idea who he could be talking about ?
No. 326830
>>326802What happened between him and Pippa ?
All I know about her is that she’s a loser to panders to an audience of 4chan users.
No. 326916
>>326898Didn't people find her posting trans ally stuff right before she debuted or something?
She probably doesn't even believe anything she's saying. She's probably some lonely, boring woman irl who just wants attention on the internet. Negative attention is still attention for some people.
No. 326930
>>326898God she’s such a pathetic 4chan dick sucker. I’ve heard some batshit conspiracy theories but the shit she’s spouting is insane levels of mental illness.
Ngl I pray she fucks up one day and her entire audience turns on her. The bitch needs a wake up call to what kind of people she so desperately wants to appeal to.
No. 326932
>>326930Didn't she have a breakdown on stream a few months ago and was crying about being suicidal?
Her less-subbed but more normal counterparts are probably much happier and healthier than her.
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Compared to the Nina design, this is a downgrade.
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>>327397I actually think the face is so cute and expressive somehow. It reminds me of a barbie doll. But yeah, the body is a bit much.
No. 327463
>>327454There's a vod of her with pickme kirsche(she's like the retarded cousin of metokur who's not even funny) where she watches the vice pedophilia in the manga industry and says its only fiction and doesn't harm real children..while the docu
shows it does and then she backtracks like the retard she is, she also had lolicon art in the past (she herself admitted it was the art of underage characters) overall she's a retard and it's best we don't talk about her since it'll attract her coom brained scrotes
No. 327466
>>327397I hated Nina's design from the getgo personally, so for me this is a sidegrade. I dislike how sexualized it is, but I like how mad some men are because it's slightly creepy. I wish she'd have gone creepier, but she seems happy and if she's happy then I am happy. I will support her regardless.
>>327419well ackshually she's an alien
No. 327467
>>327397Every vshojo model is shit or generic. I only love KSons design because she worked on it herself without vshojo involved. Its still funny, remembering that Vshojos gift to her joining them were
>an extremely shitty 3D model that looked like straight out of 2$ steam porn game>a lewd outfit that she used only for a month, drawn by an entirely different artist that couldn't even bother matching her skin color and looked out of place because how different the artists styles wereCouldn't find a lot of "that" 3d kson clips, feel like they were trying to scrap the awful look at it under the rug.
Henyas model downgrade is a different topic.
I dont understand have naive nonna thought that they might make something cool outside "mommy tiddy bitty" model and other garbage Vshojo is known for.
No. 327487
>>327467It feels like Vshojo took notes from the Genshin school of over Designing characters for most of their vtuber models.
Most of them are way too overdetailed and over sexual it just becomes painful to look at.
Nina’s model has a nice color palette and cute face. But everything else is just….too much.
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Cutie. I love the outfit, even if I don't watch IRyS anymore.
The details are awesome! I especially love short hair.
No. 327549
>>327545Oga is one of the few male vtubers i can recommend.
>orange juice game creator>is generally a chill man>the thing that makes me love and appreciate him the most is how respectful he is towards women and hololive girlsHe is basically a normal man with a deep voice. Just a nice man who doesn't do anything retarded. HolostarsJP in general is the best male group i found, because they are literally just "boys doing things". Their bond between eachother will never break.
I do not recommend western moids because they are the worlds biggest coomers. The only EN guy that seems okay is Axel in my book, he knows both ENG and JP, and didnt join the corpo just to get closer to their e-celeb crush or any crap like that, unlike some other people.
No. 327555
>>327548Samefag but if you want to watch some deeper voiced EN tubers who have Japanese streams, Shu Yamino and Sonny Brisko do streams in Japanese. I’ve only watched Sonny’s and he usually uses simple to understand Japanese so it’s easy to grasp what he’s saying and pick up new words. He doesn’t bring up gross topics on his streams and makes a point not to, which I like, and isn’t a really loud person and Shu isn’t either. I also agree with nonna’s opinion above with recommending Axel Syrios because he does a lot of Japanese streams and speaks Japanese a good amount throughout his English streams as well. But if you only want JP tubers, Holostars is the way to go.
I’d recommend Axia Krone if his streams still existed because I found the language he used simple to understand even while being N5. There are clips of him that exist out there if that helps you at all.
No. 327811
>>327781I’m with you
nonnie. I didn’t really like Magni from the beginning, and I think Vesper grew to show his own colours anyway eventually. The model ordeal is really horrid though. I feel for Pako. I think Stars EN is better off without them anyway if it’s any consolation, they both attracted more of a moid audience who wanted ‘brotubers’ kek
No. 327872
>>327781i have very mixed feelings about it still and am taking a break from vtubers in gen just to think about it.
my theory is that vesper got hurt in someway, he mentioned having to do physical therapy a lot. So cover said some bullshit to vesper about his work so magni jumped in saying if he goes, im going. so eventually they left. from the JP members, it doesn't sound like them leaving was planned and very abrupt due to ongoing contract negotiations.
so 1, i fucking hate cover because they treat their EN employees like shit. 2, I don't like how vesteas/magmites were treated after graduation. it's probably parasocialandy from me, but when you support a creator and they just give up and not even acknowledge their own work just leaves a bad taste in all the memories.
side note: i'm sure bettel is on his way out unless cover renegotiates his contract so well that he won't want to leave.
No. 327874
>>327872I think you phrased it well about them not acknowledging anything. I initially liked Magni and Vesper a lot when they debuted, but the way they just vanished suddenly leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Especially when Pako had just made new art and Magni was just re-rigged. I guess streamers are human beings first and foremost, but it still sucks.
Even if the person playing the character is fantastic, we're still kind of attached to the character in the way, art and everything. Re-debuts or retirements are bound to happen, but when vtubers just redebut left and right, it takes a way a little bit of the magic for me.
No. 328009
>>327781To me, Magni was the most obvious bad choice, remembering how roommate.
>is an ironic weeb grifter>blew up only by using vtuber hype clout>is nothing but a reddit-tier coomer>it was obvious that he thought he would get more fame from hololive and throw his twitch friends in thereKnow nothing about Vesper, but he gave off a vibe of a weirdo IT-guy with massive 'tism. Out of everyone in their cursed gen, I think only Axel deserved to be in Hololive.
I am just glad they fucked off, even if they did it in the most obvious 'we dont give a shit about anything but money', way. Especially how they did Pako's new model dirty. The disrespect, lmao.
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>>327781>>328009I enjoyed Vesper's content at the beginning, but after everything that's happened I'm so glad they're gone. Holostars EN as a whole feels much better without them.
No. 328325
>>328323Just a guess.
>kept appearing in irl Magni's streams>became more active in his pl>shared plans about using his face instead of a model for pl's future>highest earning of tempus, could let it get to his head>sees Magni and Vesper leave and get support On the other hand he could see that they lost revenue and decide to stick to tempus
No. 328692
>>328647As a viewer seeing lgbt tags or pronouns puts me off but if it's a woman with she/her pronouns I just assume she's a normal lesbian or bi so I keep watching. It depends on how much spicy queerness you can tolerate in your viewerbase, I'm not a streamer but I feel like if you don't bring up gender topics yourself they might not bring it up themselves either. I would immediately feel closer to the streamer when I see tags
>>328675 mentioned though.
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incoming blog post
>be me
>be new vtuber
>having a really nice time, making a few friends in the community
>an pre-debut vtuber reaches out to me
>really cute design, she seems really professional and well-prepared despite being new
>we hit it off and message a bit
>come to her first stream to support her
>a dude's voice
I can't believe I let myself be bamboozled like this nonitas… Never again…
No. 328876
>>328813good luck distancing yourself without the transphobia accusations kek
>>328647I avoid people with LGBT tag personally because themlets are annoying
No. 329046
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I can't believe i find this mf attractive. He has a nice fashion sense (for a man who is into punk/goth stuff at least), but i just know if it wasnt his outfits, he would have looked lame, at least purely for the fact that he often makes weird expressions on his pics.
No. 329061
>>329050Thank you for fixing my mind,
nonny.
No. 329075
>>329046I have this question a lot with the Tempus boys (just because I see their RMs being lusted after a lot more than other male chuubas) but are other women seriously attracted to these men? Like, even if you saw some other guy who looked like him, you'd still find him handsome? Or is it knowing that they're your favorite anime boy that makes up for the mid face?
Magni in particular baffles me because he's legitimately unattractive by Asian (and I would presume Western) standards.
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>Sayu shits on Yuniiho for “not finishing” her model before the deadline
>accuses Yunii of taking “bribes” because she was working on other models before/alongside Sayu’s
>Yunii’s vods prove that she finished Sayu’s model 3 weeks ahead of the deadline
>turns out Sayu has the model on hand and threw a hissyfit at the wrong person (it was the rigger that is delaying her model debut)
Sasuga schizoid
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>>329320It’s really funny that the people who first sided with her when she left Nijisanji are now turning on her after realizing how often she lies about and responds terribly to things. Yuniiho is supposed to be her “friend” for god’s sake, but what Sayu said caused Yuniiho to get shit on by the scrotes that still cap for Sayu. She’s another person that needs to desperately go to a mental health professional before she starts streaming professionally again, but it looks like she won’t. I just hope even more people don’t get screwed over by her starting drama.
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this is what no pussy does
No. 329413
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>>329075People unironically called this attractive
No. 329427
>>329413Bottom of the barrel and his humor is coomershit too. I have to assume that nonasian women just have no eyes when it comes to Asian men but like Altare and Axel aren't even lookers and yet they don't get half the thirst this dude does despite being way better looking.
Insane to me. Grow standards kek
No. 329483
>>329413I seriously fucking hate when Vtubers show their mugs, do these losers really think they would have as many fans as they have if they didn’t depend on an attractive character? They would all have 200 followers at best and it would be mostly moids and low self-esteem women.
It’s just so smug of them all to think that because they created a fandom, that their faces won’t be considered as fucking ugly as they are, and while some people can wear their fan glasses 24/7, I personally consider it’s of a really bad taste to reveal who the fuck you truly are, like, they’re not voice actors, you can just ignore a voice actor’s face and just know that your favorite character isn’t the voice actor; but Vtubers are literally the character.
Like pretend for a few years you’re not catfishing people, all of the compliments aren’t for your ugly ass, they’re for the character.
No. 329534
>>329522nta but he went back to using his face thinking his holostars fanbase will follow him for his content despite his face. Then again the ones that followed him are probably just the dudebros as ugly.
>>329520It's so stupid that female vtubers have to deal with this all the time even when they don't bring up anything themselves. Male fans are so pathetic.
No. 329658
>>329595>someDo you know where you are? Besides this is a
vtuber thread not a methhead appreciator thread
No. 329714
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Anyways, here's some actual vtuber news. Mika Melatika is graduating. What's the chance we see her in Vshojo in 2024? She's pretty close with Mysta/Kuro.
I don't follow Niji that closely but she seemed like she was inclining. Things aren't looking great for Nijisanji.
No. 329715
>>329714I couldn't care less, I hate this coomer ethot so much im pretty sure niji let her go since she was too coomer for them she won't be missed
Also it's so tiring seeing these graduations I'm kind of glad I stopped having oshis
No. 329870
>>329320Despite obviously being a menhera, I actually sided with her after the Niji drama went down, but time after time she keeps proving how much of a retarded snake she is. In the same stream where she's shitting on Yuniiho, she
>Seethes because of her low numbers, clearly unable to move on from her ridiculously short time at Niji>Complains about her chat and how she can't ban people because of how little viewers she has.>Has the nerve to namedrop Nina when she was debuting that same day as Matara>Complains about money even when she spends it all on merch and travelling.The funniest part tho was the tweet she made almost immediately after ending the stream, apologizing to Yuniiho for being a retard kek
It's amazing how she lost all the good faith people that aren't her die-hard fans thanks to a 30 min rant. Wonder how many more bridges she will burn in the future. If some corpo was thinking about giving her a chance, I'm sure she's now seen as a terrible fit for any corpo culture
No. 330046
>>329870Her complaining about her community being out of control, constantly sexualizing her, not actually giving a fuck about her, etc. is the most ironic part of the whole rant. My vsister in Christ,
you built that community. And she literally begged an artist to draw porn of her when she raided him last week so she can’t complain about others sexualizing her while she sexualizes herself.
No. 330059
>>330046Even as Zaion she had her likes full of porn of her model. I just don’t understand what she wants and I can even understand where her fans are coming from when they get frustrated with her on that front. She needs to stop flip flopping and figure out what she really wants out of her career, cause it seems like she’ll just be streaming genshin, reacting to videos, begging for people to feel bad for her, then rinse & repeat. It’s sad. With how often she frequents 4chan and even talks about specific memes and says criticism on there is legitimate compared to other platforms (hell, the whole rant was
triggered by a comment on there), it lets us know that she probably sees what people say about her ex-genmates and Nijisanji and how harshly the members get treated on there and finds that “legitimate” and amusing. I don’t think she registers that this makes her look even worse of a person than she already does.
No. 330106
>>330059>she probably sees what people say about her ex-genmates and Nijisanji and how harshly the members get treated on there and finds that “legitimate” and amusingShe actually was bragging about how she could have easily burn the company into the ground, like that didn't make her look shitty.
The fact that she even said all those things about Yuniiho pretty much confirms she has 4chan brainrot, considering that was basically the only place where people theorized Yuniiho gave priority to clients that payed more, and Sayu decided to believe that rumor for some reason and spread a moid rumor about her friend. I still don't understand how they're still viewers that coddle her in her stupid decisions
No. 330275
>>330258I feel like it'll be hard for me to become attached to anyone. Niji might just become a stepping stone to VShojo or indie popularity, tbh.
It's like debuts and graduations mean nothing when they happen every 30 seconds.
The guy does seem to have a nice voice though, but unfortunate name. Any clue who his past life is?
No. 330331
>>330275>basically no one talks about nijikrisis>justice has been servedI’m the
nonnie that talked about one of the past wave’s members here and it makes me a tiny bit happier that they didn’t blow up in popularity. I dropped corpo vtubers almost completely and focusing on my indie vtuber friends. The whole vtubing scene has been nothing but nepos and clout chasing that it’s lost what made it so unique in the first place.
Oh and I’m only watching female vtubers from now on. Why are all male vtubers clout chasing pests? I swear almost every single one of them are engagement baiting or chasing a new female vtuber every week.
No. 330463
>>330460Niji EN? Yeah.
I used to be a huge Nijisanji fan but the management and cultivation of the EN branch over the past few years (+the graduations of all of my fav JP members) has turned me from a Holo anti to a huge fan.
No. 330598
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Niji posted the announcement again to "fix" the audio, but it sounds just as bad and the replies are even more critical kek
No. 330615
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Have any of you nonnas kept up with the advent girls? Personally, I gave Shiori the benefit of the doubt, but she ended up disappointing me with that litfag kayfabe along side her retarded scrote fanbase who unironically call her a femcel kek. I like Nerissa even though she's kind of a coomer and somewhat yuribaits, but other than that she's very relatable and I'm rooting for her success and seeing her in live concerts
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>>330615I prefer Bijou and Fuwamoco.
I love how all 3 actually try really hard to reach new heights. Bijou is always collabing with others, even shows up in holoJP chats, engaging with fans and their content, etc. She really seems like a ruthless business woman, lol. But my favorite part are her and Kaela collabs, they get along so well.
Fuwamoco are doing their own original content, i love their fwmc show, their games are not to my taste, so i watch collabs instead (i enjoyed the Fubuki collab). I love how they also show how much they care about the fans and actually want you to get better and improve, instead of being one of those gfe manipulators or arguing with your fanbase like Kronii and Amelia did (even though in Ame case, i understand. She grew sick of her own fanbase almost 2 years ago. Poor girl).
>ShioriI dont watch Shiori because she is too desperate when it comes to being a schizo/gosling glue, coming off as extremely desperate. On top of that, her interview with Kiara + her past…no thanks.
>NerissaShe is not my type because of coomerism+her trying to gather Kiaras fanbase came off as tacky to me, and some of her other collab choices, too. But i like hearing about her family, its super fun. Admittedly i only prefer watching her play Terraria, she does super well in collabs too. Bless her for opening Terraria server.
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>>330621>BijouI like her too! can't really follow a lot of her streams because I don't particularly like those "endurance" streams, it's endearing how much she tries to interact with the JP girls and their chat interactions. I didn't have much faith in her because of the loli voice and design, but she's becoming one of my favorites, it sucks that a lot of scrotes have such a coomer attitude towards her, but otherwise she's very nice.
I tend to stick more with the JP girls and one of my personal oshis is Aqua, I'll try to give FWMC a chance but their debut didn't give me a good impression, although I could be wrong kek.
No. 330659
>>330615Yeah, I honestly like all of them and they've become the first full gen of Hololive I keep up with. Shiori turned me off bigtime at first due to the disappointment of her not actually being a litfag, but I find her game choices/handcam streams fun. I'd usually mind the GFE more but she's too goofy for me to take it seriously lol.
Nerissa is probably my least watched, mostly because of the light coomerism and her yuribait. I'm a lesbian but yuribait just really turns me off regardless of the streamer's actual orientation.
They all seem like nice, enthusiastic girls, though. I'm rooting for them.
No. 330709
>>330704I usually love women with deeper voices, but something about Kunai's voice is unfortunately just such a turn off for me.
Victoria was a little awkward, but I can see her being great once she gets past her nerves. Claude sounded comfortable and confident, he seems like he'll be fine.
Not really compelled to watch any of them.
No. 330710
>>330704Kunai's tastes have a lot in common with me so I'll keep watching her for now. I like her humor. I agree with
>>330706 I didn't understand why she did the same boring thing she made fun of at the beginning lol but I like her humor too so I might watch her. I don't remember much from Claude despite him being the last one, was pretty unmemorable except he's into BL I guess? That's not too unique in Niji though.
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So Vox is making a “film”.
I low key wanna give him props for actually doing something that has to do with making a film rather than trying to make “serious” boyfriend asmrs.
However it’s so hard to take him seriously, he clearly wants to be a looked at as a serious film maker. However it’s hard to see him that way when he got his start doing boyfriend asmrs. Honestly it’s hard to see him that way because at the end of the day he’s a damn vtuber.
But hey at least he’s trying.
No. 330826
>>330825this looks so corny
also the fact that it's coming from someone who's probably just a doughy, average-looking guy is kekky
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>>330615Nerissa and Biboo's sleepover was really cozy, I love the bird's relaxed energy. I tried Shiori for a while but agreed that her fanbase is absolutely the worst one and get upset that gasp, a woman in her twenties who is probably cute IRL has had multiple boyfriends. They're all so hypocritical with their expectations of her and infight all the time, I hate moids so much. They're all insistent on how roasties and pick-mes are sooooo bad all while being so blind that Shiori's entire kayfabe is a quirky pickme who absolutely knows what she is doing. Only sad bit is recently she's realized just how mentally ill said fanbase is and how far they will go (look at Fauna currently…) and she's having to backtrack a bit from wanting to be a cute housewife to insisting they find their own gfs. Stupid Novelite moids.
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I started listening to Kiara recently, because I began to see and admire her tryhard energy. Aside from Mori, it seems like she's the only one in Myth who still cares about Hololive and takes it seriously.
I think I was initially filtered by her crazy design and how hard she was trying to keep a cute voice in the beginning. However, I think she talks in a much more normal voice now. Plus, she seems like she's always working on new stream ideas and projects.
I like her girly normie energy. She seems like she'd be fun to go shopping with or travel with.
Tl;dr: I finally gave Kiara a shot, and I think I will come to like her. Don't listen to 4chan's hateboner for her.
No. 330919
>>330889If 4chan hates someone, it's usually cause they're enjoyable and pleasant to watch.
t.Mori and Kiara enjoyer.
No. 330948
>>330931Who do you think 4chan likes(woman cause they obviously hate males) in EN side of Vtubing? I know Gura, P*ppa, and I guess FWMC.
On a similar note, I feel like THAT board likes a lot of JP without knowing Japanese, because if they did, they'd be more anti threads.
No. 331196
>>331017Honestly I have no idea what the movie will be about. Probably something lore related, I doubt it will be good though. Vtuber lore is genuinely the last thing you’d want to use for a serious “film” . Besides that it’ll probably be just a slideshow too.
But who knows, maybe it’ll defy our expectations.
No. 331269
>>331210His fans will probably eat it up no matter what in all honesty.
Honestly I think it’s mainly because it’s Vox that I have so little hope for this project. If it was a smaller vtuber I agree that it would be pretty impressive even if it’s a slideshow.
But considering how it’s Vox who wants to be seen as a “serious” filmmaker I’m gonna judge it harsher. Also I’m just not the biggest fan of Vox .
No. 331342
>>331325Same, I want a twin the way they're twins. I have multiple sets of twins in my family who get aet along to various degrees from pretty well to terribly (not on speaking terms) so I get that what they have is a very unique circumstance even among twins. But what they have seems really comforting and nice. Just, like, reliable, you know?
It's kind of the same with Bettel and Bettel to, for me. When they live together and can count on each other for life shit and talk about getting meals and splitting rent and stuff it makes me jealous.
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completely unrelated but I see a lot of japanese ladies who seem to love Iroha, which other holos have a sizeable/vocal female fanbase? personally haven't watched anything of her but I think she's kinda dorky
No. 331520
>>331431>Graduated vtubers having to get rid of their previous models I mean, I can see that being plausible in some cases but even if you look at the graduations of last year, this isn’t true
>Getting rid of models even if they’re used for auditionsAnon, if this was the case, Shiori would’ve had to change her past life persona millions of times
No. 331590
>>331455I'm not saying they can't keep their persona/accounts, but that the particular moving vtuber model can't be used. Orc has only used reacting gifs since returning, sayu also only used gifs because her model is still being made.
What led me to this train of thought was that connor said he could no longer use his model anymore.
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otome?
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>>331756correct me if I'm wrong but didn't she push the "mommy" shtick herself with doing an "ara ara mommy voice" multiple times, doing ASMR content of ear cleaning and having the viewer pretend they're laying their head on her lap, and having encouraged artists to draw art of her in a cowkini? she actively plays into that sort of content from what I've seen.
No. 331775
>>331772IMO it's a similar deal to what's now occurring with Shior
Both women sort of lean into catering for their male fanbases, but that doesn't mean there aren't boundaries to how far they're willing for it to go. But males are genuinely unhinged and will take a mile when you give them an inch, so they end up with insane male fans who go mental over the slightest contamination of their mental images of these women.
I'm not interested in blaming them for how things are, as they both seem like relatively nice and healthy girls whose general fanbases don't deserve what they try to take from them. But people should really learn from/predict this shit happening since it's a tale as old as time when it comes to female streamers.
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Actually, who is everybody's favorite from each Hololive English gen? For me:
Myth at debut: Amelia, she just seemed cute and I liked her game choices. Got tired of her content quickly, especially as I really dislike "your mom" jokes.
Currently: Kiara. She really grew on me. I'm not an active viewer of any Myth members, but the consistent effort and passion she has put into her role really won me over. Calli is a close runner up for how much she has grown as a vtuber and contributed to Hololive as a brand. Her music may not be for me, but Hololive is definitely thenplace for her.
Council at debut: Sana, because she was actually friend of a friend in her PL and I was rooting for her to succeed. She brought a certain earnest wholesomeness, and I was sad to see her graduate, but I understand why it didn't work out and think it's for the best.
Currently: Nobody in particularm although I don't hate anybody either. They've been sort of a slowburn gen for me where I like seeing them plug along but don't get super hyped for them. If I had to watch anybody it'd probably be Fauna. Mumei's recent song made me cry.
Advent at debut: FuwaMoco hands down, I love them and still do but I just am not that compelled to watch most of their content. I'm excited to see them go far, though, and their morning show is a nice pick me up for me.
Currently: Surprisingly Shiori, despite her being my least favorite at debut. I just find myself gravitating to her choices in stream content more often then not and she's my most watched Holo member these days. I do not interact with her fanbase, just as I do not interact with vtuber fanbases as a whole, and will continue to practice this aversion based on recent comments in the thread.
Feel free to do for any other branch of Holo as well, I'm just cutting it here because it'll get too long otherwise.
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>>331787 following what other Nona said
Myth at debut: Ina, she was the one whose design stranded out the most. Very chill and friendly girl, not a fan of her game choices but I listen to her zatsus from time to time.
Currently: Kiara. Not my oshi by any means by I find it endearing how much she tryhards being an idol, it's nice to see there's still people in this company that just don't do it for the sake of getting their paycheck.
Council at debut: Nobody. I don't hate any of the girls but it took me a while to get an interest in them.
Currently: Mumei. Partially because of her PL and the nostalgia I have for it, when she talked about wanting to join hololive because she wanted to make female friends and her social anxiety I couldn't help but relate to her, it's dumb, sure, but I really treasure her. I also love Fauna, at first I avoided her because of her fanbase but her game choices stood up the most for me… Anyone should try to give her a try, if you look past the gfe asmrs you will find someone with a very intelligent sense of humor.
Advent at debut: Shiori. I thought she'd be a cool addition to hololive because of her husbando taste and her literature choices but it's obvious she doesn't have any idea of what she's saying.
Currently: Nerissa. Perhaps not a lot of people might like her because yeah she's kinda coomerish but I can't help but admire her, she almost cried druing karaoke because of some issues regarding audio. Another idol enjoyer just like Kanata and Kiara!
I could probably go more in-depth with holoJP but I don't want to ruin the thread with my idol/Holo spergout.
No. 331803
>>331798I'll HoloJP spergout if you do! It's always refreshing to hear about them from nonmoids.
NGL there are a few Holo fans I'd love to connect with in the friend finder thread ITT. It's so hard to find vtuber fans who watch the same chuubas as me without being moids or handmaidens.
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>>331803ayrt here it goes
nonnie>Gen 0Suisei and Miko. Originally I avoided Miko's solo content because of her voice but over time I've grown fond of her silly antics, her due with Suisei is so adorable and you can just tell they enjoy hanging out with each other beyond simple business! Suisei started at the bate bottom and I can't help but admire her, she's so funny and always tries to help the girls when they're in a bad place.
>Gen 1Not much was done to foster a group identity tbh.Even so, I could say that my faves are Aki and FBK, I admire the effort Aki has even knowing that her PL is married, unfortunately many of her talents are something that not many would see on stream which is sad because I would seriously love it if more people had her appreciated. Fubuki is a straight-to-the-point entertainer, although her character is a fox girl in her early 20s but her game choices tend to be old games, I usually see her in other holomems' chats.
>Gen 2Aqua-tan! a bit of a gap Moe tbh she's a competition freak with no hesitation to beat others but also a rather socially anxious and clumsy girl, I am so glad she has grown of her cocoon and has decided to interact more with others.
>GAMERSI'm very fond of everyone in this group but I'd say the closest thing to an oshi would be Korine and Mio. Mío has a maternal energy and is always willing to help other girls, I usually try catching up with her morning Mío streams; Korine is a ball of sunshine and I don't usually need to pay a lot of attention to what she's doing since her commentary is quite good.
>Gen 4My personal favorite generation! I'd say most of the members are pretty charismatic and offer a lot of funny moments even with the departure of Rushia. I did use to sort of cling to her because I thought she was just playing a character and the whole menhera thing was just a schtick kek. My oshi is Marine, I know a lot of peeps might have a negative outlook of her because clippers don't usually give justice to her content, she's someone whose passionate about internet culture, a lot of people misinterpret her burikko kayfabe and will genuinely think she behaves like that kek there's a lot of passion in her zatsu and projects.
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>>331855samefagging
>Gen 4They are a particularly close knit gen who often treat each other like family.
Kanata is a girl with a somewhat clumsy and awkward body language but she is nonetheless someone who is passionate about her work as an idol and she doesn't just do it for the simple fact of getting her paycheck. Watame is someone with a lot of empathy and I can't help but see her as a little sister to me, I cried when I saw the recent live concert, she is cute and her Japanese is simple. It saddens me that the jp scrotes have made Towa feel ashamed of her nasal voice, I find her somewhat uncomfortable and sometimes I wish she would stop paying so much attention to those types of people because I see her as someone I look up to.
>Gen 5Nothing against any of the girls but imo it's probably the most forgettable gen. Lamy is cute and sexy, I often find myself listening to her ASMRs when I have trouble sleeping, she's probably the one with the most underrated chat interactions and banters. Occasionally, I find myself to be playing alongside her fps streams but I do tune in for the more laid-back streams, couldn't help but mourn along her when she lost the SF6 tournament she put so much effort and practice. Nenechi is very funny, she does kind of pander to scrotes but it's more in the sense of getting pay-pigs but outside that she's fine.
>Gen 5 My second favorite generation. Lui reminds me of those ladies that participate on theater. she is something of a big sister to the rest of HoloX, and even jokes about her being intended to be a older-sister type (thought don't be fooled, she's a bit of an eccentric woman kek). Iroha seems to be popular with japanese women because I see a lot of girls in my timeline with itabags and shrines dedicated to her. Haven't watched much of her but by my first impressions she seems to be dorky and a shrinking violet so I guess that's why she has a "she's just like me fr fr" to them kek. Chloe is my kamioshi! I found it amusing how open she was to wanting money and talking about her BL fetish tastes, it's the perfect mixture between being cute, sexy and snarky though to some nonas her gfe can be a turn off but it's not like she does that on all streams.
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>>330615I was really rooting for Nerissa, her first stream was so fun but it's been sad to see her coomerfication (kek). I had the same feelings of Bijou, I remember showing up to one of her Hitman streams and she was just screaming BALLS BALLS DO YOU WANT TO TASTE MY BALLS??? and I instantly unsubbed. The Fuwamoco sisters are really hardworking and are most in-tune with Japanese idol culture, so I've gravitated the most towards them now.
No. 331928
>>331787Myth @ Debut : Mori, I really thought she was cool and her release song was catchy as fuck. I also liked that she wasn't the average "idol"
Plus making moids seethe by existing is basedMyth now : Still Mori, but I also now like Kiara. I couldn't stand her constant crying and sperging about views and sub count, but she stopped that so I'm happy for her.
Council @ Start : I don't watch much of Council but Kronii. Kroniichiwa
Council now : No one, unforunately. If I have time I'll watch Kronii but otherwise I don't care for anyone enough.
Advent : Shiori, love husbandofags very much.
Advent now : No one
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>>331787Myth at Debut: Ina or Mori, since I was drawn to their designs the most. I still they're great, and definitely talented, but I hardly watch them stream.
Currently: Pleasantly surprised to see others mentioning Kiara. At first, I didn't know much about her, besides a little bit about her pl. After seeing some posts from anons dedicated to shitting on her, I decided to watch her streams myself to make my own judgment. I easily was drawn to her personality, and really appreciated how communicative and kind she is with her fans. She always works hard, and I admire her greatly. I consider her my oshi, and although I don't watch vtubers as often as I used to, I still support her when I can in streams and with merch.
Council at Debut: I thought Bae or Kronii would definitely be my favorite. Never ended up watching her much after though.
Currently: I do try to keep up with Mumei's streams now and then. I love her design, and think she's cute. I wanted to get into Fauna but her voice filtered me personally, as I don't really like listening to high pitched voices/prefer her "deep" voice which is probably closer to how she sounds irl I think (I know Moom's voice is higher pitched as well but it doesn't bother me for some reason.)
Advent at Debut: Nerissa, and potentially Fuwawa and Mococo. I did like Bijou's scuffed powerpoint debut as well, thought it was really funny and clever. I felt completely disappointed by Shiori for various reasons. I love her model's design but that's about it.
Currently: Nerissa, I know she does coomer pandering here and there which isn't my favorite lol. But I love her voice, and her singing is gorgeous. I have a lot of fun in her streams, and loved her chemistry with Kiara in their minecraft collab. I think it's cute how supportive she was for Kiara with her pl on Kiara's older videos.
As for Holostars EN, I'll just say that my favorites were initially Axel and Vesper. Still think Axel is pretty great, and I'm honestly a fan of everyone in Tempus right now, especially Hakka, Shinri, and Bettel.
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No. 332902
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What in the Deviantart OC??
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Riro from idolcorp (an actual vtuber company with huge backing) selling some sort of service where she’ll drug herself and record porn, I guess. Also talks of meeting with fans and apparently has an asmr where she sexually roleplays as a under 10-year-old child getting molested. This is the EN vtubing community, folks.
No. 332944
>>332912That’s genuinely so repulsive and disturbing.
Idc if it’s “role play” anyone who indulges in that type of fantasy is sick.
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I love Kiara and I love Mori!
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Going to sperge for a minute but I hate Shuca so much. I'll be excited for the day clawmino takes over, and I don't even seriously ship them. Shu and Luca just seem like casual buddies to me, but even when Luca joined Claude's recent valorant stream, all the Shucafags made it about how Luca is so jealous of them. They hyper-analyze every interaction because they've never had close friends before
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>Mori going on semi-hiatus
I'm going insane, nonnies. Why? WHAT COULD IT BE.
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>>333800I hope she is. In the sense of she's been working real bloody hard and I hope that it's just that and nothing more.
It could also be shes prepping for her surgery which was mentioned a while back.
What I'm NOT hoping is that she's thinking about leaving or something
No. 334236
>>332692Sayu's face is all over the internet because she used to be a fleshtuber. You can find it pretty easily by looking up Sayu Okami or
Sayuha (her username before she became Sayu Okami).
>>332904Vox is 23, assuming the birthday on his PL's profiles are his real birthday.
>>332912Not surprised tbh. Selling sex worked for Yuko and Coni's entire fanbase is lolicons so Idol hard panders to coomers now.
No. 334622
>>334600Koreans have a big issue with being overly patriotic to the point that when someone states an objective fact about their country that could be taken negatively , they get viscerally angry.
Even if they did genuinely take it as an insult, it’s painfully obvious Kyo didn’t meant it that way, threatening him is crazy.
The craziest part about it is that a lot of Koreans will say objectively worse shit about other countries and their people and think it’s ok. Because this large amount of patriotism has lead Koreans to being incredibly xenophobic.
I mean look at the reason the WEBTOON “get schooled” was taken down off English platforms.
No. 335386
>>335200Am I the only one that thinks people mad at Kyo for the enna situation are overreacting?
Maybe I missed something but from the og vid he had a pretty appropriate response to ennas impression that was obviously gonna be taken as racist whether he said something or not. Enna fans acted like he went on a hate tirade calling her evil and racist or something, when all he did was tell her the obvious.
Like I can’t blame him for his reaction, if he had said nothing or just awkwardly laughed it would’ve looked bad on his part.
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No. 335544
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Kek at untalented indies malding over not getting into Hololive and then blaming it on racism. Everyone knows that it’s insanely difficult to get into a reputable agency; they literally take 5 applicants out of a pool of thousands, if not 10s of thousands of applicants. It has nothing to do with you being POC. Besides, there are plenty of Hololive and Nijisanji livers in EN and ID that aren’t white.
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>>335544Not gonna look up who this tuber is but 99% chance their streams are boring or mid-tier at best despite them being 'hardworking' or streaming x hours a week for x number of months.
Also 90%+ chance their 'talents' are something like drawing (at the level of an 8th grader in an anime club), gaming (duh), and something that doesn't really have a role in streaming, like cosplay or candlemaking or some shit.
Not trying to be mean, they might be a very sweet and hardworking person. Also this isn't aimed at this particular person, but at most indies who have this attitude. Indie vtubers need to realize that 90%+ of them aren't cut out for corporate vtubing lifestyle, and out of those 10% who make it into some form of a corpo, only maybe like 10% of those will make a livable wage.
No. 335632
>>335631sorry for my sperg, I'm an indie vtuber who's doing it for fun, but tired of 1views acting like Hololive should be begging at their feet
Anyways Holostars EN released a dating sim. Looks like it might be fun for nonnas who like them. Only $13, though idk how long it is or if there's CGs.
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New HolostarsEN unit. /vt/ seething as per usual. Not interested in male vtubers but if they seethe I happy.
Also can someone confirm is Zentraya is a troon or not? I
No. 335958
>>335940Nice. As long as Cover is keeping to the same standards they had with the first two gens, I'm sure it'll be fun.
What happened with Magni and Vesper was unfortunate, but I blame them and not cover for it. While they were cooperative, they were good contributors to Holostars… In both their cases, seeemd like they crashed and burned themselves.
Tangent, but with this it does seem like Cover's stated intention of ramping up debut output starting with Advent was true. Wonder if we can expect to see new Holo ID and JP gens within the next year as well, unless ReGloss counted as the new debut gen for JP overall despite being a new branch.
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>Doppio from Niji makes a cute fan project by commissioning templates for "evolved" fan mascots (og mascot is a chick)
>You can customize hair, skin, clothing colour and about everything really
>Fans get mad because they want to larp as men
You're watching an attractive man with an attractive voice acting like a himbo and getting cutely flustered when the game mentions sex despite being a female oriented sex worker in his past life. Who are you kidding kek trannies just have to make everything about themselves. He spent so much money and thought on these designs yet trannies took away all his excitement.
No. 335965
>>335953Jurard T Rex - KamiyaJuu
Goldenbullet - SuperKrazyBones
Crimzon Ruze - Rimmu
Octavio - Karlobster
A bit iffy on Octavio but pretty sure I got all their PLs
No. 336001
>>335959Him being a sex worker sounds interesting, can you tell me more about that?
>>335965I hate vtuber names that are supposed to be puns. T. Rexford… give me a break. Recently I saw a magician vtuber named Abi Kadabura and I wanted to anhero.
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>>335940Well, that's a debut I'm not watching
No. 336027
>>336001>sex workerHe had a patreon where he made sexual audios acting out characters from MHA and Genshin (afaik). He was a tame vtuber when he streamed so he was always drawing a line between himself and the "side work" he had on patreon but most of his audience found him via those audios anyway.
>>336017I don't know why they all feel off. I was excited because Tempus2 were all great recruits but these guys feel so cringe. Their jokes don't land right.
No. 336085
>>336027It reminds me of Nijisanji style debut humor. Maybe this is nitpicky, but I don't mind a little spicy wink-wink-nudge-nudge flirtation or suggestive content once in a while. But the outright "I'M A DISCORD MOD" is a bit distasteful for me.
Could be grasping at straws, but also, the association between discord mods and going after kids is a bit… uh… I wouldn't personally make a debut tweet comparing myself to a discord mod.
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Sayu was never a fully seiso vtuber but damn she'll really do anything for a shred of attention. Also the blush rigging… kekw
No. 336381
>>336380Really don't know what Cover is thinking casting him in a role parallel to Altare's as leader for the new group, or so it seems so far. He has zero charisma beyond a decent voice that can sound forced depending on your taste. I usually don't subscribe to rrats but I wouldn't be shocked if Altare's persistent noninteraction with Armis has to do with Rex.
Other three guys seem okay. Ruze has actually been pretty funny in his Twitter interactions so far, so I'm interested in seeing how he is as a streamer. The ridiculous chuuni thing he has going on reminds me of Doppio, kek.
No. 336384
>>336259I don't follow Doppio, but tbh, I don't think I'd feel that bothered by a male vtuber making porn audio, especially if it's female-oriented. Porn audio for straight femanons is nice. The only thing is that 95% of men can't pull it off without being cringe and disgusting.
>>336262Why are her eyes blushing, too? Does she have pink eye? Seems like niji lost a real gem with this one!
No. 336528
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I still can't believe they let this guy spearhead the new gen, let alone let him into holo
No. 336568
>>336561I had my reservations at the beginning because I tend to be wary of gay content creators, but he's actually very chill and cute.
Jurard on the other hand is unbearable.
>>336529Savage kek
No. 336736
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>>336586This was his PL content, so…
No. 336800
>>336796Thanks for keeping us updated.
IDK how sustainable Ruze's character will be in the long term, but he was really funny and cute. Even if he dials it back a lot, he's naturally witty enough that he'll be a fun watch.
Overall? Goldbullet is a potential new oshi, loved Ruze and Octavio for their debut kayfabe, Jurard will have to prove himself past his reputation thus far.
No. 336812
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>>336804Jurard was pretty loud but they have solid synergy as a group
I love Ruze already, he's a new oshi for sure.
No. 336818
>>336808I like his name, but it's not very search engine friendly… Also not a hugeee fan of our fan name, WBU?
I love his incoming game picks, though. And I'm over the moon about his stream time, I've only ever managed to watch Vesper and FWMC consistently, so a new morning streamer is always welcome.
No. 336825
>>336818Yeah, I’m not too big on bubbies either. I think I’d prefer campers but I don’t feel too strongly about either options. Maybe a better alternative will arise one day…
I tend to sleep really late so maybe his streams will finally motivate me to wake up early!
No. 336965
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He's so fucking manic and stupid and obnoxious. I think he's my oshi.
No. 336993
>>336971Right? I've seen some argument to the contrary, but honest I think he did a good job keeping the conversation going without talking over everybody else (which is what I was afraid of).
They do need to work on some sound levelling for future collabs due to how loud Jurard is though, kek… I could barely hear Goldie at times.
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No. 337017
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I miss him
No. 337128
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>2nd stream ever
>do anything in his power to get the vod removed
>screech
>leave
No. 337147
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Yeah I'm gonna menshi this guy
No. 337186
>>337175He admitted that he got help from a Holo girl to pass the audition.
I don't personally believe it's such a bad thing to do, but the way he brags about it looks pretty bad, and him talking about it in a stream it's pretty retarded to begin with
https://streamable.com/lvh73h No. 337210
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Just watched Ruze's debut since I wasn't able to catch it live and I really love him so far! I admire the attention of detail he puts into performing as a believable character, everything feels very cohesive. His model fits him and his energy perfectly.
No. 338075
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wilson intentionally took a fanartist' design and commissioned another artist to 1 to 1 it for him to use as his "official" mascot. this is a really shitty thing to do, he basically stole it and creditted the entire design to another artist
No. 338076
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>>338075original artist's design
No. 338083
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>>338081Oh that's awful. He even admitted it. The og design is cuter so perhaps the commissioned artist is a friend he wanted to give work to lol. If he wanted those tiny changes he could ask the og artist to do it. I wouldn't expect this from an inoffensive and careful streamer like him. Just checked his twitter and I can't tell if he's just panicking or he got into trouble with management (hence the suspension).
No. 338099
>>338083i dont get his thought process, was he seriously not going to credit the og artist at all if no one caught him? its not like he made a mistake he wasnt aware of or only referenced a generic axolotl that had no relations to his brand, he knew someone else made the design intending it to be wilsoneer and intentionally got someone else to redraw it and chose not to credit the og artist.
How would this have gone any other way?
No. 338100
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After seeing the two Armis collabs so far, like others I do think Rex seems notably better when at least one other person is around. Like his bratty yelling shounen MC thing has something to get softened with instead of bouncing around so sharply and very loudly off the walls. I'm still really liking Ruze a lot, I feel like he has pretty detailed and solid convictions behind his opinions on various things and media compared to several other male vtubers I've given a try. Goldbullet I wouldn't usually think is my type of vtuber but he's been surprisingly charming with his game commentary or reactions. Octavio I haven't been able to catch up with yet to listen more from him past the debut, but he has a good voice and some good moments too in the collabs. I don't know if I'll end up looking much at Armis besides following Ruze and whenever they have collabs with either each other or tempus/holostars but I can see the reasoning behind why they were picked, even Rex
No. 338182
>>338165it disturbs me that he intentionally went out of his way to get a(noticeably bigger followed) artist to make basically 0 changes to it though. Like why not dm the og artist? Why go out of your way to get another artist to make you the exact same thing?
It just disturbs me that this is being treated like an innocent mistake when he had to go out of his way to save the og art, seek out another artist, discuss with this artist to change basically nothing, and post said art shouting out the new artist all the while knowing that someone else came up with the entire design.
Also really weird of that other artist to basically act as if they came up with the entire design also knowing they referenced almost all of it from someone else.
No. 338355
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>>338075What enrages me about the whole thing is he genuinely believes he did nothing wrong, to the point he admitted he stole the design when replying to THE ORIGINAL ARTIST
In other news, Vox is trying to pull some RP shit since he wants to kill his coomer reputation, and it's backfiring hard kek
No. 338593
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>>337966Like that other nona said you can just look through previous threads. That being said, someone I've not seen recommended in previous threads that I've been enjoying lately is Vantacrow. His personality is not what you would think judged on his model alone. Trust me on this one.
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No. 338734
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>>338673Meanwhile Shinri of the actual idol company Holopro is asking for nudes
No. 338785
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Samefag, I hope this is the last of the projects that got delayed byVesper and Magni leaving. It’s wild how just the exclusion of these two pushed the cover back 3 months. Still baffles me that despite everything, the guy who played Magni is trying to switch to vtubing with a model that looks similar to Magni.
No. 338975
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>>338624Honestly, I just like him because I enjoy gap moe personalities and how silly and goofy he is despite his sexy animu boy model, especially when he goes off on tangents about random weird shit in his streams. I agree that he's not for everybody but he's chill and I like having his streams as background noise when I do other things.
(Also he seems to genuinely enjoy streaming based on how much he does it, which is refreshing considering there's so much drama surrounding vtubers in this day and age lol)
No. 339031
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>>338992Help, the shoehorned catboy elements are so bad
No. 339063
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>>339032This looks like shit lol
Magni's design was so much better imo, even with the old face
No. 339081
>>339031Did he draw this? Why is the art ugly as sin?
>>339068I really liked Magni when he debuted… It feels like he had such a fall from grace.
No. 339124
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>>338992You can really sense the coomer tendencies with these designs. Maybe Magni's design wasn't so bad after all…
No. 339237
>>339032>>339124>hourglass figure>thigh gapjfc. At least
>>339031 has some interesting textures, and the bodywrap catsuit makes a lot more sense design-wise instead of whatever ripped up school uniform type deal they're going for with the other two. The color variants all look like ripoffs of existing characters too, from left to right I see Cloud, Sailor Jupiter, Aqua, Sailor Mars.
No. 339323
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>>339322Remember to open the drive and scroll to the last pic. Attaching it in case he deletes it. There's 52 pictures.
No. 339326
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>Company hires mentally ill woman in hopes for having a pipkin pippa
>she turns out to be a ethot and a sleep meds junkie
>sleeps with staff member(a moid who was married) to get clout
>meets fan irl and gets thousands of dollars based
>suprised mentally ill woman acts mentally ill
Also that nonnie was on the money when she said she'll either be fired or graduated
No. 339328
>>339327Ike Eveland.
Incidents happened in 2014-15. These posts are from 2020.
No. 339336
>>339322>>339323>>339327>>339328Joe B (Her other friend):
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srcuba(Takes the blame for his part and calls him
sus.)
Just noticed twitter archives don't work so screenshot.
No. 339341
>>339338>>339323Screenshots from drive imply that all parties are kinda milky, imo.
Xandu constantly does this thing. “Call. Now.” as if trying to avoid giving her anything written to screenshot.
Lollia blamed the other girl instead of just dumping him.
Other girl started out of the conflict, supposedly. But they got together pretty quickly later and there's at least some overlap between Lollia/Xandu screwing and relationship with the other girl.
His friends, “He suffered, she should too cz she blacklisted us.”
Her friends, “Yeah she exaggerated but you ain't clean. But let's all find healing.”
(Btw, there's a lot of drama in at least Adriana's circle with the Random Encounters people like Sparrow Rayne and Peter.)
(unintegrated posting style) No. 339387
>>324519>>339358Sorry. The screenshots I posted are mainly twitter and the last ones from the drive link cz he's likely to remove them.
2014-15 (based off 3 statements + 52 screenshots)
>They dated. >Ike got introduced to Arietta. >Lollia eventually got jealous. > She was mean to the girl. >They broke up. >She still wanted to visit him as friends.> He offered to waive a loan if she didn't visit.> When she got there, they had sex multiple times (he said they were drunken relapses. She says he asked to pretend they were together again. And that she still didn't consent to every encounter.)> He also locked her in her room at his parents' place. (He said cz she ran away and almost physically hurt him. She said she was traumatized and wanted to get out. Oh and she said he molested her.)> During the stay, she sent mean messages to Arietta that she deleted, according to him.>He knows can he yelled at her till she shared the data.> She later stole his phone to read his messages to Arietta and accused him of wanting to screw her.> He's entitled to reading her messages but not vice versa
> After she goes home, she finds out Ike has been dating Arietta for a while.>Sounds like he was screwing Lollia while already being with Arietta> She makes a tweet about it and deletes it.> She's supposedly a terf, cz she calls his chats with other girls+ FtMs harem chats> He also calls them that > So do his friendsApparently she also tweeted about him during MeToo, but we'll never find it cz her old socials are gone now.
2 years later, he breaks up with the second gf.
>There's talk of his “other victims” that he finds out somehow. We don't know if they exist. Except the girl Aerie that Ike never addresses whom he supposedly messaged > Doesn't deny messaging Aerie.>He is the one who included ss of her conversation with Lollia as proof that she's trying to raise “an army”. 2020
> He makes a statement with 52 screenshots in a Google drive link. (At the bottom of Xandu's statement)> He says she's doxxing him by using his legal name>Lollia being mean to Arietta> Lollia telling a friend she's having intrusive thoughts of hurting Arietta>He says Lollia caused him to get depression and anxiety>Says you can't revoke consent after weeks/years> She owes him about 1,700 USD
>Adriana makes a statement telling him to find healing, his ex has changed for the better and to handle things privately>Tells him he's doxxing lolita by using her legal name>He removes Lollia's legal name.Lollia makes a statement
> he drove her to that point> She developed an ED cz his talk of other women's bodies made her self conscious>He had depression and anxiety before they ever got together, so she didn't cause that>Denies being owner of the server where all the talk of Lollia's Army happened> Says consenting once doesn't mean every single time was consensual> Says she'll address the money via emailLollia's friends makes a statement
> he's the owner of the server> Says it was never about Ike> “Utaite community isn't safe for women. People are preying on them”> They supposedly had a lot of predators back in the day> Says Ike provided biased screenshots and stories don't add up> Will let it go cz it's been 5 years>Also shits on whoever leaked info from that server> also says that Ike and him had a call We don't know if Ike ever got his money back.
There's other stuff but this is the tldr
IMO, he's like Fedmyster but smart and faster than the girl.
He also does this thing in certain screenshots where she's trying to talk to him via text and he's going “Call. Now.” Looks like they had some weird BDSM adjacent kink going but he used it to get his way.
Imo he was either careful not to send text messages or he crossed out his own stuff.
(unintegrated posting style) No. 339406
>>339403
>FemalesKek
I thought he was trying to appeal to the LGBT community? And whatever happened to his gf? Relationship content could have been better than the sex talk.
No. 339425
>>331459bumping this question by the way; it isn't mine but i'd love to watch some vtubers with large female fanbases. i think it'd be similar to kpop where there's less pressure on the idol/vtuber to be a "cute girl" when she's not surrounded by scrotes
>>339423yeah it's totally gross. i don't think she's that young either (i've been seeing her around since like, 2020, with her older model) so what's her excuse
No. 339432
>>339425>>339428She's about 26.
I think her excuse is literally being loli sized. She's about 149cm. And has a child like face.
Where's the rape whistle bit though? The attached vid doesn't have captions.
No. 339436
>>339431Nothing in this page defends that point except for the mentioning of the intentionally brutal lyrics, which are directly meant to fit into the sexual and sadistic mesugaki archetype of lolis. If Japanese companies and celebrities are getting in trouble with Japanese netizens for even acknowledging the song, it’s clear that the song is even seen as disgusting by people who live in the culture and speak the language fluently. Also
>defending lolishit on lolcow of all placesDo you know where you are?
No. 339445
>>339439>However, after the release of its music video a year later, the song went viral worldwide on social media and became an Internet meme. This was unexpected for Shigure herself, who expressed that she hoped not to be perceived as a mesugaki to newcomers. >she hoped not to be perceived as a mesugaki to newcomers>basically saying, although my mesugaki persona is featured in this song, I hope people don’t perceive me as only thatWhy would a person who’s made a whole entire sadistic loli persona of herself, has a significant lolicon fanbase, and is a lolicon herself make an anti-lolicon song? I genuinely think you’re misunderstanding, but if you knew the trope, you’d know the song is celebrating both it and lolicons, and that’s why people are disgusted with it. There wouldn’t be an outrage over the song from people who hate lolicon culture if it was.
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>>339432>Where's the rape whistle bit though?right near the end, like i said in my og post she's holding a "safety buzzer". gross so spoilered:
it's a pretty common trend in mesugaki works where the loli taunts the adult male with her safety buzzer before getting raped>>339448kek honestly i normally don't care about loli when it's something extremely far from reality (like the monogatari vampire – shinobu or whatever), but this is a little too realistic. i mean yes it's cutesy and silly but there are actually young girls out there using safety buzzers, there aren't any vampires though
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>>338723Nevermind, he’s such a snake, cutting his members into pieces like this…
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>>339431Are you new to the internet or just to anime culture? Rejection/girls acting disgusted/scolding you has been a big part of anime and especially vtuber culture for a long time now. Picrel.
No. 339503
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>>339431Samefag but… come on, anon. Did you not see this and the ass-wiggling? This is not how someone who wants to protect kids would have their MV animated.
No. 339506
>>339504I wouldn't be surprised if people pushing that ideology are minors themselves who think that the song is entertaining and catchy (which it is) and made it their new flavor of the month tiktok song without really understanding the subtext behind it.
Don't plenty of loli anime have little girls bullying and attacking the protagonist or running away in fear, like Bakemonogatari? It's all part of the fetish…
No. 339555
>>339326Back a month or so ago when she streamed this and had to put out the statement, the moids were coping and seething about how it was totally just roleplay, I only saw one or two actually have a brain enough to know that this rockstar was horny on her meds and being serious. Those same copium bros broke down when the termination post came out, holy kek.
I do hope she gets help and is safe, but she was big before idol and she seems to be returning to her old stuff. Live your based life, girl.
No. 339734
>>339718People put on a nice face on public facing accounts and then go to other, more anonymous sites to show their ugly side. Tale as old as time. The dox site's unique userbase comes from attracting people who want to express ugliness while still holding the false mental high ground that they won't enter "bigoted" spaces like here or /vt/. The weird compartmentalization produces some interesting double standards when it comes to what you can and can't say on a site that's already scum for doxxing.
IDK what page you're seething about but the StarsEN pages have been really weird lately. They nuke entire threads for people having "difficult" discussions of any kind.
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>>339734>the StarsEN pages have been really weird latelyNta but yeah, they discovered flagging and now they flag anything. There's a weird hivemind thing going on with them upvoting and downvoting based on what the first few people did. Retards that live on that page downvote or upvote you based on keywords they see and everyone follows suit, the same exact post that everyone agreed with can be downvoted to hell two pages later because the first to see it downvoted. Classic twitter behaviour of following what everyone else is saying rather than reading, understanding and forming an opinion yourself lol.
Even /mans/ has too many retards now. /nenmen/ is tranny central. Wish we got more discussions about male vtubers here. All appreciation posts just shill cows like fuwamomo, I forget where I am sometimes. Redeemable cows like picrel are more interesting than pedo bait no39562 but no one seems to care even about milk like his coworker saying he'll accept nudes from fans.
No. 339793
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>>339747>Wish we got more discussions about male vtubers here. All appreciation posts just shill cows like fuwamomo, I forget where I am sometimes. be the change you want to see, nonna. there were people having discussions about their male oshis all throughout the thread and armis just a few posts ago, but there’s not any wider discussion going on since people here are more attracted to the milk, sadly. just talk about what you want.
No. 339829
>>339774I haven't personally watched any Flayon streams, but I did get this clip recommended to me, where he says that even if he's feminine, he doesn't wanna be called a girl and that he's not a girl.
I took that as him lightly laying down a boundary that he doesn't wanna be viewed as a TIF despite seeming small or cute?
I could see TIFs or TIMs targeting him because he does seem a bit 'feminine'.
No. 339832
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>>339783Samefag but I enjoy Tenma after some anons shilled her here a few months ago. My headcanon is that she was given a loli model, but she decided to just play as an adult-aged character anyways despite the loli model.
I've seen some anons change their feelings on her because they think her accent is fake, but I wonder if she might be a mixed woman living in Russia or somewhere, hence still speaking Japanese while having some kind of euro accent.
She's goofy, ragey, and cute, but shows some vulnerability and kindness at times.
No. 339833
>>339747AYRT maybe you should consider that we can have multiple discussions at once. Some of us like female vtubers of actual quality and enjoy discussing them with other women in a relatively guaranteed tranny-free space. And most of the negative male chuuba feedback here comes from the male chuubas in question being annoying coomers like your picrel or making retarded brand decisions like Yu Q Wilson and Vox. We've had plenty of posts postively shilling male chuubas like Doppio, GB, and Ruze ITT alone so it's not like we never talk about them. I don't really understand how Flayon is somehow better than FWMC in your eyes.
If you think you have interesting discussion to present, then post it.
>>339829Personally, what I dislike about Flayon is his penchant for bringing up sexual topics unprompted in conversations unrelated to them. I can only take him randomly going off about thighs so many times.
No. 339838
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>>339834am i crazy or does this look just reskins of the talents they already have? i kinda like this design but ofcourse they couldn't resist the coomerish open skirt, all the other designs are kinda bland?
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>>339431>>339439I don't really care about female lolicons personally, but come on now. Kagamine Len did it first with "Shotacon Genocide", which has the same theme of being "anti" on the surface, but still hints at complicity. It's fanservice. Accept that japanese otakusphere not only does not give a single fuck about "fake" pedophilia, they know how profitable it is.
No. 339846
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Ruze's cookie decorating stream was so adorable and fun. I hope he does more handcam streams!
No. 340045
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Morinonnas were onto something, I properly watched her for the first time since her debut year today and she's really become such an entertaining streamer.
No. 340062
>>339730Nothing wrong with people having different opinions. I'm talking about how they speak and present themselves, like
>>339734 said. It's a site meant for hosting doxxes for crying out loud, why are people acting so high and mighty there kek. No need to be aggressive
>>339924Twitter if you can. There aren't as many female holo fans on there, but I'm sure they exist. Avoiding vtuber porn is gonna be hard, but you're less likely to find it if you're sticking around women or people men who don't use /vt/ lol.
No. 340099
>>340087Do you work at
EA?
No. 340101
>>340062I really want to know what you posted that got such a negative reaction, kek. Not that random negging on that site for any opinion is isn't the norm these days.
>>340087I expect Niji livers to be this at baseline, and I expect it of Holo talents to a certain degree too depending on who you're talking about.
If you work for EA, I wouldn't be shocked to hear this about Selen and ShinySpicy.
No. 340121
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4chan's preoccupation with Gura not streaming is so funny and sad to me. From the way they doompost, you'd think that Gura was a girlfriend of 5 years who cheated on them with their brother or something.
I've never been a Gura fan, but I gotta assume she's some combination of sad, anxious, or burnt out about trying to entertain 1,000,000 manchildren. She's probably sitting on enough wealth to buy whatever she wants, but she probably doesn't even want that much as a NEET. I don't think there's some secret illness or project in the works, she's probably just bored and tired.
It sucks watching your favorite change but her fans need to stop giving her money and unironically improve themselves. She probably reached her creative peak years ago.
No. 340123
>>340121It's basically as you said– she stated herself in her recent Sendai stream that she hasn't been streaming because she's burnt out (along with the time sink of having moved to Japan this year).
I honestly think she was just never the type who'd have wanted to be the face of Holo in the west to begin with. When you look at the personalities of Myth, it makes sense that Calli and Kiara are the ones still charging full force while the other three have had to step back a lot at various points for their wellbeing.
I agree that the seethe is just sad. Just watch somebody else, it's not like you're forced to give her money while she's away.
No. 340150
>>340136Honestly, it seems like there's been a huge influx of really angry and
toxic ESLs lately, coinciding with the increase in bait and falseflagging on pages. I wonder what's going on.
I first started seeing them on Vox and Mysta's pages, but it's more recent that they've spilled over into the Stars pages. I have to assume they're Luxiem's angry CN fans.
I hate to sound like a /vt/ schizo ranting about nijisister collusion, but something of some kind is up.
No. 340187
>>340150NTA but are you talking about nyfco? Nyfco has been full of kids and ESLs since the day Luxiem debuted. Almost the whole entirety of their fans back in the day came from TikTok and Twitter, and being newcomers to the community they’d look up “Mysta real face” or something and ended up there. They’d make TikToks and twitter threads “exposing” their past lives and calling them “
problematic” for them and whatnot. Sometimes Mysta’s or Vox’s Chinese fans would raid their respective pages whenever they got mad at either of them and post a bunch of nonsensical hate messages and mass downvote any comment saying “Taiwan #1” or talking about Tiananmen Square (which was done in retaliation to their spamming) and they really haven’t left since. A good deal of female vtuber fans in general are SEA or Chinese, so the English second language thing has always been there. If there’s a recent uptick of that in other pages though, it’s probably because either the Vox fans or the Mysta fans that left decided to become Tempus fans. But in general, Tempus’s pages always had those types of people roaming them, especially Axel’s due to the timezone he streams in. But I guess there’s more nowadays due to a shift in fanbase and people finding new interest in ARMIS maybe.
No. 340286
>>339924Try using this hashtags, it's in japanese but I'm sure learning the basics might help you connect with other women who like hololive.
>#ホロライブ自己紹介カード>#ホロライブ好きさんと繋がりたい There's also counciltwt/holotwt so try looking at the bios and follow them, try making your account presentable and maybe even add your interests/oshis. You can maybe find some luck joining the fancords but there's usually not much beyond fanart dump and shitty fann projects.
No. 340576
>>340121the youtube comments on her latest streams are full of that too, she'd probably be getting less of this if she communicated with her fans more (besides saying she's burned out recently) but it still feels excessive. I actually like that she streams less since there's so much vtuber content it's already too much for me to consume. plus she's been releasing some nice songs at least
>>340509I find the uwu voice cringy, gives the same energy as a bad english dub
No. 340580
>>340576Honestly, everyone in Hololive EN is doing about as well as you could expect by giving NEETs a 6 figure salary to play vidya as an anime girl whilst having moids rage at them and stalk them for every word they say.
Not defending Gura per se, but I could see her being too stressed to even do or say anything. Every single tweet she makes is gonna be dissected to hell and back on 4chan. Every stream is gonna be moids raging at her for not streaming more.
On a brighter note, I think Hajime's ending animation is really cute. I don't speak Japanese but she seems sweet.
No. 340732
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This vox model is so damn hard to look at, it looks so wonky. It looks like that one jjk gigachad porn artist drew it.
No. 340758
>>340749The anatomy is so horrific. The neck looks huge and the hairline looks off as well. It looks like a poorly designed 80s action figure.
Sucks because his og model was very nice looking.
No. 340837
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Advent NY outfits announced! Shiori and Bijou both look cute from the silhouettes, although I'm not a watcher of either. I always look forward to seeing these when they come out, although Ina and IrYS' have been the only ones I've truly enjoyed from the branch.
Also seeing some predictable salt that the boys haven't gotten outfits yet, but IDK what people were expecting. OFC the girls will get their outfits? Personally, I really have my fingers crossed for summer outfits as I tend to enjoy those most from the Stars side. I still remember losing it live at how cute Miyabi's was.
No. 340887
>>340868He did look up videos of Sonny on stream once about him being Sketchek once but there’s no clip of it besides a real short clip of him reading a chat message with the search recommendations in the background showing videos about it. I even looked through the vod for that day and that part wasn’t in it cause the guy recording the vod started recording it late.
https://www.twitch.tv/?tt_medium=mobile_web_share&tt_content=clip (can’t embed this)
No. 340909
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looking forward to ina's 3D concert today
No. 340912
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I know her termination was unfair, but she's starting to sound pretty pathetic considering she worked in Niji less than 3 months after debuting and still can't let go.
No. 340920
>>340912Honestly, it wasn't even that unfair. She was a PR disaster, a possible menhera mess behind the scenes, and almost cost them Nintendo perms.
The only reason why she's ever had people on her side is because of the Niji hate-train.
No. 340924
>>340920ntayrt, and sorry for sperging
But from watching corpo and indie vtubers, it's kind of hilarious to realize most of them don't have any actual life experiences aside from e-begging. You can tell most have never had a real-life job, even a part-time one, or gone to any form of higher education.
>2-view indie vtubers with boring personalities and no interesting hobbies like singing, art, or zatsudan: "Waah! Why won't Hololive hire me!">corpo vtubers getting burnt out and struggling to send a single tweet or schedule 1 stream a week>people like Sayu getting hired to literally play vidya a few hours a week, then getting fired for an inability to behave and communicate in a semi-professional mannerLike I do have some sympathy for the fact that most corpo vtubers probably have insane stalkers and fans, and have to fight over permissions and such. But if I could work for a big corpo, I'd sit there and stream Minecraft for 20 hours a week or whatever with a smile and collect my 6 figure paycheck. It's not that hard.
No. 340929
>>340920>almost cost them Nintendo permsnta but Oh god, you’re right. With how insane Nintendo is about perms too, they would’ve taken them away from the JP branch too. Imagine Sasaki graduating a second time because of no Nintendo perms… The whole thing about Sayu being held up as some martyr of Nijisanji pretty retarded, especially since she’s shown whats she’s really about so many times since she’s left the company. Nijisanji isn’t great and Cover Corporation isn’t either, none of these corporations are anyone’s friend. It’s exhausting, though, when there are egregious instances of Vtuber company malpractice not even being talked about in favor of bringing up Sayu getting terminated for the 100th time, like
>AkioAir hiring an underaged teenager and all their talents leaving because they were tired of the company’s shit>Wactor doxxing and threatening talents (one got her whole real name plastered on an announcement from the company about her) and presumably firing every vtuber they had employed since none of them stream anymore among other things>Tsundereia vtubers having to package each piece of their merch by themselves instead of it being handled by an outside company then having the bomb drop on them out of nowhere that their company doesn’t exist anymore>AuroraLiveVR just having a bunch of people leave and expose how bad it was working at the companyThere’s a bunch of fucked up shit going on in these companies that nobody even really bothers to translate or talk about either and I get that since Niji is big, any microdrama they have gets clicks, but god damn, I feel like no one really cares to expose true terrible companies outside of whatever contributes to stupid fanwars. It reminds me of Kpop fanbase wars.
>>340925The thing with Sayu is it seems like she had actual corporate jobs before becoming a Vtuber and is over the age of 30, but that probably didn’t do her any well either.
No. 340932
>>340929I'm genuinely getting tired of people blindly blaming the corpos for everything that goes wrong with a chuuba and then taking the moral highground of fighting an evil, callous business. It occurs so often in situations where theres overwhelming evidence against the person in question, but people instead concerningly choose to ignore facts in favor of a script of anticapitalist justice or something. Like good grief, you cannot be this retarded– form actual opinions for once instead of what your own paranoia and Twitter tell you to believe.
>>340924>>340925Yeah, I hate to sound like a boomer or someshit, but you're absolutely right. All of the best chuubas worthy of actual respect IMO tend to be those who have actually grinded through tough circumstances for their dream. Say what you will about their actual appeal to you, but I unironically believe this is why Mori and Kiara are able to keep up regular output compared to their genmates after all this time.
No. 340958
>>340957Honestly, as a
victim of suicde baiting in an
abusive relationship, I have so little sympathy for a guy who faked terminal illness and death. And then came back as an anime boy lol
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>>340958Can you really expect a moid, much less an e-moid to not be retarded?
No. 340992
>>340958Sorry that happened to you. It was a terrible thing to lie about, and his pathetic apology didn’t do anything. He was an incel and could possible still be. Admittedly I haven’t watched much of him; I only got in from XSOLEIL and working backwards.
But I guess Nijinsaji EN really knows how to chose them. Sonny (faking/lying about dying/terminal illness), Vox (fake? vomiting/fake therapist session and mental breakdown on stream), Ike (an abuser with a pattern, Kyo (racist against Asians and use of Blaccent), and Zaoin (a complete mess on her own). Did I miss anyone?
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TSB Holoniji Apex custom winners
>1st Regular game: VAC (Aster Vezalius Claude - NijiEN)
>2nd Melee only: ERM (Maria Elira Ren - NijiEN)
>3rd Regular: TSB (Axel Selen Altare - StarsEN & NijiEN)
>4th Sniper only: Villain team (Koyanagi Rou, Hibachi Mana, Hoshirube Sho - NijiJP heroes)
>5th Regular: TSB again
>6th Hide and seek (TSB hunt others): Axel died to ring but the other two ended up hunting all others, second place/last standing was Reimu
Notable moments:
>in the 2nd game TSB lived in final ring by driving in circles with a car high enough that they couldn't be punched
>Villain team (NijiJP heroes) won after one of them disconnected in the final ring and his teammates had to punch him into position
I don't know anything about Apex so correct me or add on other moments, I couldn't catch up with most of the teams/rounds.
It was so fun, the meme rounds and nerfing winners to keep it dynamic were good ideas. I enjoyed watching my oshi even though I don't like FPS streams. It's interesting to see Holoniji interactions. Selen said this is a pilot episode, I hope they do more and grander events. The other two said Selen did most of the work so especially kudos to her for making this happen.
No. 341224
>>341201Justifying faking terminal illness and dying is an extreme way to escape the TF2 community. I know how bad they are, they literally complain about TF2 streamers who haven’t streamed TF2 in a decade.
Idk if you make your money/name/fame off some kind of parasocial relationship, and then lie about dying. Kinda can’t be surprised at what’s coming to you for the rest of your life when you trade one parasocial relationship for another.
Vox is another mess on his own.
Surprisingly haven’t dug up anything for Xsoleil outside of Zaoin so maybe she really was the one problem child and the other are fine. The other five seem chill and get along well without her menhera
No. 341252
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>>341224>Idk if you make your money/name/fame off some kind of parasocial relationship, and then lie about dying. Kinda can’t be surprised at what’s coming to you for the rest of your life when you trade one parasocial relationship for another. NTAYRT, but the guy didn’t really trade off one parasocial relationship for another since the lie was made up in 2015 (before his family kicked him out for being a NEET) while he came back in early 2019 and was back to doing the same gameplay edit routine until 2022. You could even say that he came back to his channel to maintain his channel to get into Niji, but he didn’t think of joining until Bonnivier, his friend in NijiID, encouraged him to join and that guy debuted in 2020. Also, kek, the way you phrased it all made it seem like his content harbored a deep parasocial relationship with his audience while the guy just uploaded gameplay edits, mostly without his voice.
By the way, have you guys heard about Hana from NijiID making an alt vtuber account to upload sex audios and do fansly streams? I made a post about it a long time ago, when she was just doing regular streams on the channel, but I felt bad cause it seemed like she was genuinely mentally unstable with the whole using he/him pronouns thing. But now it’s public knowledge after getting blown up on twitter and she deleted the alt YouTube channel and privated the twitter and the fansly, so I guess it doesn’t matter anymore.
No. 341367
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>>341252lmao tranny colors
>>341358High chance, she made jabs at JKR while on her alt.
No. 341483
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>>340912She needs to go on medication at this point.
No. 341550
>>341201>>340992>>341201>>341224Sonny seems pretty normal from the clips I've seen, so maybe he was just an edgy teen.
Ike and Vox are just repeating I they were accused I early on. Ike with the ghosting, posting self harm stuff and clingy-ness and Vox with the non-con rp with no warning or consent. And true to their PLs, both of them went from shading their exes to their company (see: AR Live and COVID). Ike doesn't have anything to defend against cz HE accused his ex of a bunch of stuff when it's clear that he was definitely
abusive as well (possibly more so). If you read the screenshots without looking for reasons why he's abused, it looks like he was meticulously avoiding leaving written messages.
Maybe Sony, to, will revert to his old self.
For Xsoleil, there were rumours that part of the reason Zaion was fired was because Hex complained and he was top earner in the wave at that point.
Someone posted about Luxe or something in an older thread. That's one of the Krisis boys.
The milk exists.
No. 341573
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The first to graduate from the first generation…
I can't say it's unexpected, given that she's been here since the start of Nijisanji, but God… the announcement is affecting me a lot more than I thought it would. I don't even watch her that much anymore but… it was fun, to watch her from the absolute beginning and to be there until the very end.
Aside from Chii-chan, Azuchi Momo's graduation has also been announced. Admittedly, I don't feel as emotional for her as I do for Chihiro, but I do wish we could have seen her in 3D alongside SEEDS.
No. 341696
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does anyone like tamaki? i enjoy watching her (him? pretty casual fan so i don't know how far she goes into the trap larp) fujo/perv out on male cohosts
No. 341856
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I've been getting way to obsessed with Roberu recently. I'd love to just kidnap him and keep in my bedroom, Misery style.
No. 341875
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>>341856Is this AI? The bg looks normal but his face is fucked.
No. 341952
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>>341914Nah not her. I've only recently got obsessed with Roberu.
No. 342152
>>342149Hit the nail on the head.
>>342144The art is insanely cute.
No. 342344
>>342275Ayrt. She’s obsessed with xsoleil and went to a con to see them. She still wants to be corpo but no agency is retarded enough to take her.
>>342335>I thought it was a potential shoplifterTOPKEK
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>>342354She’s actually Japanese.
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>>342394I like Octavio, to me he has the most Holostar feel. I used to like Jurard but the voice buff is not enough he really is too much for me. The other two I never liked anyway so I don't really watch them or have an opinion. What made you dislike GB?
No. 342404
>>342400Just a lot of personal stuff, I find some of the voices and sounds he makes to be gross and his brand of positivity is a turn off because I find it difficult to trust (sorry, mentally ill kek)
Jurard grew on me in a group setting, I can't really handle him on his own but find him fun when he bounces off of others. Also he surpassed low expectations because he's grown a lot from the type of person I remember him being a few years back.
Octavio really is such a great pull for Holostars, I can't wait to see what he does here.
No. 342411
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Well. No need to look further for a reason to dislike GB now. There's more of the fan's tweets here but this is the worst one.
https://imgur.com/a/hztW958 No. 342803
>>342769Tbh, I think Kiara is handicapping her own singing by trying too hard to do the idol chimkin voice.
This is Kiara's VA singing 10+ years ago. I find it a lot more cute and natural. It's not Suisei or Risu level singing, sure, but I think it's perfectly passable doujin kind of singing.
No. 342988
>>342467>>342461If you've gone through everything, can you screenshot and attach the last tweet? I can't open it.
This one:
https://twitter.com/Placed12th/status/1276017994964090881?s=20 No. 342995
>>342484i'm not sure if it got deleted actually, she might have just culled her following on it and changed her handle. that or it's her other account, all i know is that my friend follows it lol
>>342511oh trust me this girl is delusional as FUCK. she's known for her insane vesper posts but some of us have known about her prior to all of this. she's had problems respecting and understanding boundaries long before she became brainrotted over vtubers. i hope she gets therapy instead of another bishonen streamer man to lust over
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Did anyone watch the VTuber awards? I watched the vod today.
Should Iron Mouse have won best VTuber of the Year?
The awards were super scuffed. They kept showing the wrong clips and award winners didn't show up. Filian was dying out there half the time. She was not prepped for this.
No. 343056
>>342988Try this link
https://web.archive.org/web/20200705222145/https://twitter.com/Placed12th/status/1276017994964090881>>343036'Vtuber Awards' from the view point of ENVtubers and it's community don't really mean anything to me, so I didn't care to watch… but wouldn't it have better to restrict the nominees to solely ENVtubers? I get that they wanted to make a 'First-Of-It's-Kind' sort of thing and include
everyone, but considering that the vast majority of English-speaking viewers are only able to watch JP Vtubers through clips, I don't think they'd be able to accurately vote based on anything substanial.
Besides, I feel that award shows should focus on a broad horizon of choices, not just the most popular or most known. The fact that Matara Kan (Nina's reincarnation) and Kuro Kurenai (Mysta's reincarnation) are nominated for something despite only being in the sphere (as their new personas) for two-three months immediately removes any merit this "Award Show" attempted to have.
No. 343058
>>343056Tbf I think only like 2 JP VTubers won anything and there's supposed to be some international one by a different group hosted in Spring.
However Henya managed to win rising VTuber even though she's was very established before people made her retire for playing Hogwarts Legacy in her past life. Makes the categories seems like a mess.
I hate it but it should be like what the Oscars do. Get the top couple hundred creators in the industry to vote on things they like. As creators they should know the industry quite well and it won't be a most fans contest. Like Gura got best fanbase and she barely streams.
No. 343064
>>343058I don't have a problem with JP Vtubers winning anything (in fact, I think more should have), but the fact they were nominated and lost against something in the EN-sphere only because it was more popular. You mean to tell me that VSaikyo and Hololive's Sports Festival lost to… an Ironmouse subathon? Nijisanji Koshien, not even nominated? Kuzuha, the literal face of Nijisanji's gamers… lost to Selen? And why was Holocure even nominated for the game award…? Sure, it was popular, but the nomination spot could've easily went to a game that everyone's still actively playing, like Sutogura.
You're right, having those who are actually in the industry vote would definitely make this entire have actual, meaningful nominees and winners. As nice as it sounds though, I don't think anyone would really give a shit to do it. I know I wouldn't.
No. 343068
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>>343036they used ai for suisei, the one Japanese vtuber nominated for this award(whatever it was), this “award show” was nothing more then a way for the organizers to gain clout off big en vtubers
No. 343074
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>>343068I wouldn't say that's a slight. Just some intern grabbed the first person off Google Images. Every other JP image was fine.
No. 343075
>>343068It's honestly bizarre the way Holo was treated despite so many nominations and wins kek
Like Filian not knowing how to say their names and usage of only the shittiest misrepresentative clips. They should have just kept it to twitch bc IDT they have any clue whats going on outside of it regardless of influence in the hobby
Anyways, personal thoughts:
I'm glad Selen won things but she should have won in some other category, not the ones she won in. It just made Niji look worse.
Fauna is my oshi but she did not deserve the ASMR award. At the same time I'll take it because Vox losing is always funny even if he doesn't care about his ASMR anymore.
Pippa should have won most chaotic. It would have been a backhanded win, like Gura's fanbase win, but still. It's true even if it's the result of mental unwellness.
There should have been more categories based on type of games played, especially when gaming makes up such a huge chunk of vtuber activities. Like best variety gamer would be very different than best gamer overall or best FPS gamer.
Also, the fashionista award was stupid. Isn't that just about whoever has enough money to cycle through outfits so often they become meaningless?
No. 343076
>>343070No idea, but it reminds me of how hilariously badly they mangled Shinri's voice in the Christmas song.
IDC if you don't watch Holostars, please listen for a good laugh.
No. 343080
>>343074If anything, saying that the organizers just grabbed the first image off of Google sounds way worse than saying they had an AI create it. It's really
not that hard to find an official image, whether it's grabbing an image from the Virtual YouTuber wiki or even just a taking simple screenshot from a stream. Imagine what would have happened if they grabbed any random image and it turned out to be someone's fanart? I can't believe I'm saying this, but thank God it was just an AI image.
No. 343094
>>343081The sheer amount of questioning over the only two awards NijiEN managed to snag (and then there's Mika getting the 3rd Niji award while being on her way out kek)
Like, Selen absolutely deserved to win something for the shit she goes through to keep her branch relevant but it was not gamer awards lol
No. 343097
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>>343094I mean, the nominations for FPS vtubers weren’t really good from the start. Botan, Shu, Selen, and Froot. They could’ve picked better people for the category to begin with, and Selen winning in the Gamer category over Kuzuha makes as much sense as Mori winning for the musician category over Suisei or Ironmouse winning vtuber of the year over Salome or Pekora. This was a western-centric event with western fans voting, so you’ll get wins that are more popular with the western crowd. Plus there’s a bunch of questioning going on for the event entirely and some people even urging Cover to sue everyone involved in putting it together. Does any of this really matter, though? It’s some random award show that has fansly promo all over it, mispronunciation of names, scuff on top of scuff, and random usage of AI art where it didn’t need to be used. It has less credibility than even the Streamy Awards and just a little more credibility than the random polls you see thrown into 4chan threads, so seeing people treat it like their oshis are getting snubbed of Grammys or Oscars awards or something is pretty funny.
No. 343098
>>343097Out of the nominees she did have the most claim to the title since it wasn't like a JPtuber like Kuzuha was ever going to win, yeah, but I'm considering the nominations themselves to be why this is a joke lol
I honestly think the only thing this show was good for was making divisively bad moves
No. 343118
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The masochistic state of mystakes is unbelievable (context, he's ebegging still over the tax situation)
https://twitter.com/OtterParade/status/1736390595285840221 No. 343276
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No. 343391
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Imagine being so mad that someone returned to the internet that you make a whole thread on it kek.
No. 343472
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>>343458This was honestly so funny that it made me watch half a Vox stream which is the most he'll ever get from me. The initial stunned silence from the other boys when Vox popped the question on them (he confirmed that they didn't know going in) was also great.
No. 343556
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I started watched Ame after a long time of not really watching vtubers. Tbh, I still like her. 4chan is usually pretty angry at her, because she seems like she's capable of creative things but has been burnt out for a long time, PLUS the 'work on yourself' thing.
But tbh, I like her, even though she's not a content and creativity factory like Kiara and Mori right now. She just seems like a chill gamer girl who needs some time to relax, and is tired of everyone expecting her to come up with something new constantly. I could see why it'd get tiring for her to be the one trying to spearhead a lot of collabs, especially when your genmate is Gura.
No. 343674
>>343561That’s exactly why I reacted, otherwise I would’ve just not thought about it at all. Like yeah same old tax evasion joke Vox makes because he has no material… until Shu made me think of… past Luxiem members
>>343665There is some study about kids who grew up in impoverished or lower income households that lack self control and lack impulse control after they become adults with money (especially large sums of money). If you know what it’s like to not have luxuries in life, or be starved of them because of lack of money, you might get addicted. Thus Mysta/Kuro’s supposed crazy spending habits. It’s not like his mom is a great financial advisor/budgeter
No. 343694
>>340045Samefag but I have continued enjoying Mori. I truly do not feel that her voice was so soothing before, but it does things to me now. Also won over by how supportive of other Holos and funny she is now? I'm sorry for sounding like a massive shill but I'm so down bad for her these days it's unreal. She's so accomplished but when she's being sort of fail in collabs and games along with her voice it
triggers the same part of me that goes crazy for Ange Katarina. Sorry.
No. 343726
>>343691Unfortunately his viewers are enablers and more than willing to pay off his debt for him.
Now that he doesn’t stream on YouTube under Niji, he’s realizing there’s a cap to how much balls and cock and femboy mentions can get you.
No. 343914
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>>341483she's back again omfg
No. 343919
>>343913I'm actually really curious regarding who is represented ITT.
Picking only one chuuba, who do you nonnas oshi? Judgement free zone for one moment for the headcount (unlikely to occur but try)
No. 343925
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>>343919Oh wait it’s only one
No. 343930
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>>343919He got shat on itt but he
triggers my i can fix him instincts
No. 343957
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>>343919He has his flaws, but I will always have a soft spot for him.
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Octavio
>over 30
>married
>actual ex doctor
>made an original song for his intro, his first attempt and it's good enough
>has a great singing voice and the drive to make covers
A good oshi candidate for someone like me who's tired of my old oshis breaking into menhera arcs where they can no longer hide their coomer tendencies and lack of any professional job experience before finding this outlet to live out their anime harem protagonist dreams. He's sweet and interactive with his chat. EU-friendly-ish time slots and even when I miss it most of his streams are 1-3 hours so it's easy to catch up. Already liked his excitement for streaming but these made me like him more.
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This is so freaking cute [crying emoji]
No. 343989
>>343556Not trying to excuse 4chan scrotes but she has a habit of starting projects then getting not following through or giving up quickly. She hyped up her news thing and gave up on it after 4 episodes.
Her VRChat map is pretty sweet though. I visited it the other day and had loads of fun things.
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>>343919Pic related overall
Mori for EN (she is a lot better in her IRL channel)
Roberu for boys
No. 343998
>>343919Tara. I liked her when she was Nina. She's the reason I started watching Vtubers. I only got clips though. And maybe 2 karaokes.
And Elira. She's a fujo who likes/reads weird smut like Clippy. She just like me Frfr. <3
(<3) No. 344001
>>343874The accent. A lot of people love that. I give you Kuro, Rin and Vox. You know who they are. I think they all reach 1 million pretty early, but Rin did it via shorts.
Plus, there's a lot of women who see Mysta's stuff as, “I like hearing about that stuff from a male perspective.”
I think the bit about zero gag reflex was famous. Those things appeal a lot to clippers etc.
Tldr: people who like coomer behaviour and mostly see clips.
(BTW: I heard someone on nyfco say he's not that bad outside of the clips.)
IMO, the clips reflect on the clippers' mentality and that decides the community the streamers will eventually attract. Idk how coomer he was in general, but the clippers primarily liked that part of him.
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>>344002>>343988On it.
TL;DR: Tempus fancord mods are trash talking people behind their backs and getting people ostracized. Small, dumb reasons like pl related art.
If you like discord communities, I recommend officials servers.
No. 344009
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>>344007The mods are more milky than the streamers.
They also mod the unofficial Armis servers.
No. 344015
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Shinri is officially a sex worker
>https://twitter.com/RexRisque>https://fansly.com/RexRisqueVA/postsTotally not related but how much do non-Bettel stars make anyway? Niji has people moving out in the first few months or being the sole breadwinner for their families but as far as I can tell most Stars are living with family or roommates.
No. 344018
>>344015I assumed it was more about them (Niji) being young and wanting to leave overbearing Asian families and Stars choosing to live with others (cz even Bettel does, afaik. Doesn't he live with his brother?)
Kyo moved back home. I assumed his condition required more help than expected.
I think only Luxiem does REALLY well, judging by the Vtuber SC rankings that people keep posting. They used to be top 20 when I checked, along with mostly Holo/Niji JP members & Myth featuring there.
No. 344038
>>343966Curious about him being a doctor, where'd you learn that?
>>344035Doesn't Shinri have a law degree? I know lawyers aren't usually filthy rich but damn, can't he get a part-time job?
No. 344039
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>>344018Bettel lives with his brother, yeah. He said he did consider living alone at one point but decided it would be saner not to, more because he wouldn't cope well on his own as opposed to because it's financially necessary. Which makes sense as Bettel2 does seem to be the more practically responsible of the two and help Bettel out in a lot of ways.
No. 344041
>>344038It's not confirmed that he was a doctor, but it is confirmed that he's a medical professional based on posts from an old gaming review blog of his where he talked about going on hiatus and getting accredidation + more recently taken IRL photos from his doxx (these I think were from his mom's FB, which has since been privated), which do show him working in a medical setting.
>>344038Really depends on what kind of law you worked in. I don't actively watch him regularly (I don't like his model sorry), so I'm not even sure why he left law to do… this lol
No. 344081
>>344044AYRT. It IS high school drama. The obnoxious kids are chasing out most adults, from what I gather. But others are coming back, so hopefully Jay R also feels okay to come back eventually.
I've gotten corrective DMs in the past and they ruin a lot of the experience.
Are there clips of JayR? Istg I saw at least one.
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>>344087I get your vibe but it also makes me laugh because Bettel 2's solution in contrast to Bettel's habit of just not eating is that he orders entire palettes of top ramen at a time and eats stacks of 5 PB&J sandwiches in one sitting for maximum refueling efficiency kek. He's more on top of adult life than Bettel in a lot of ways but he's also so tangibly still his brother's twin.
No. 344163
>>344115Don't worry,
nonnie. That's just regular sibling stuff. You'll see that with everyone who has siblings. Elira feeds her little brother even when she's abroad. Bijou likely got into video games cz of her brother. Look at her now.
Randon wants to be like his older sister. They're all pretty wholesome. I think that's why they were hired.
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>>343919I love him so much.
No. 344181
>>344177The one I've seen the most is other pooners coming into the page all excited with their ideas that Rio must be a TiF who is for some reason doing everything he can to hide what he is. People will tell them that Rio isn't, and that Rio has even said he's been harrassed in the past for his feminine voice despite being male, and they'll still come up with insane theories about how he could still be trans but going to extra lengths to hide it with an elaborate story. It's ridiculous.
I've also seen Uyu's stories of being confused about his high voice and trying to maintain it when he hit puberty as "proof" of him being trans, when he explicitly stated that his mom supportively thinking he was trans was what gave him a reality check.
Today we have somebody asking if Ruze is trans because of his interests and PL.
In every case, there's always somebody subtly coming in and talking about how this kind of thinking is regressive/people should be able to present however regardless of their sex without being trans, etc. basic GC talking points without directly using alarming terminology. I'm hoping it peaks some people because it does get a surprising amount of support and Cover's fandom isn't as rabidly TRA as Niji's is.
No. 344185
>>344184Here's Uyu speaking on it.
The funniest thing is that these threads stay up until somebody calls them out on being insane, and then the upvote/downvote ratio flips against their favor, and the thread always gets reported and deleted lol
No. 344187
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>>344165Great taste, did you get his figure?
No. 344191
>>344185The comments are so tone deaf celebrating the mother's words ignoring that his panic when someone thought him to be a tranny smacked him back to reality and he even called his mother "unnecessarily openminded" kek
>>344188One of the en stars referred to Rio as "they" while he referred to others as "he" so he might be a tif but why would a girl get bullied for having a high voice? I think he just has unfortunate genes/hormone problems. On that topic it seems to be a trend among vtubers to refer to people as "they" randomly despite knowing their gender. It's awkward and weird when they randomly switch pronouns, Bettel does this a lot.
No. 344193
>>344191Was it one of the ENstars? I thought it was Ame, and mostly because she wasn't familiar with him.
And yeah, the comments on that vid are so delusional when he was clearly turned off by the line of thinking that he might be trans and critical of his own previous actions.
>>344188That's not a reason to justify people insisting that he's possibly trans for their own gratification against his own stated trauma from being harrassed over his voice.
He's not the only case of a male vtuber with a highly GNC voice, either, but he gets these schizos because he has good opsec and is the only StarsJP that hasn't been doxxed. Mashiro from Nijisanji has had similar experiences with his voice, and his voice is his natural voice despite him being undeniably male when you see pictures and videos of him IRL.
This constant evaluation of whether you can clock somebody or not is just overall regressive, and a trend I really dislike in some terfy spaces. And it's not contributory to the discussion at hand.
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>>344165Me too, good taste. Looking forward to his solo live part of Nijifes. I really appreciate how he manages to stream a lot while keeping up with his idol-related activities.
Also I feel like I don't really see a lot of people into Niji JP among english speaking vtuber fans, although seeing posts like this
>>344181 it might be for the better kek.
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>>344280I'm mostly a Holo fan these days, but my love affair with vtubers began with NijiJP! It's just that all of my favorites slowly left or became inactive…
Picrel was my original oshi, but I'm taking the loss a lot better after seeing recent clips of his fleshself still delusionally holding on to the idea of being female, while also talking about how he's poly? It's sad that he turned out to be another typical troon.
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>>344293i was studying his face for while for some reason, and then it hit me. omg, he looks just like my teacher in my fashion college, down to all the hair being combed to his forehead and scrawny anachan build and fucked up teeth and big nose and sunken in cheeks and shittily painted nails, all he's missing are glasses and a square face shape.
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>>344285>I'm mostly a Holo fan these days, but my love affair with vtubers began with NijiJP! It's just that all of my favorites slowly left or became inactive…NTA but me too. I think NijiJP has stronger entertainers but Holos in all branches just seem like nicer (introverted) people overall kek. NijiEN, what happened to IN and KR, and the increasing JP idol activities were ironically what pushed me towards watching HoloEN more.
>It's sad that he turned out to be another typical troon.I cope by pretending that's an imposter and that his real RM is a regular ass salaryman somewhere out there in the world
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>>344005If fan drama is relevant at all, I’m surprised no one has talked about the real insane fan named Horayo who was simultaneously an extremely parasocial fan artist while spending money sending hate superchats to Mysta almost everyday, and now does the same thing to Kuro. It got to the point where Mysta threatened legal action while still in Nijisanji and even had a private talk with her as Kuro, telling her to get her act together before he proceeds with suing her. She’s been going even harder nowadays after getting doxxed (by sending a public hate superchat that ended up getting tracked back to her own Steam account among other things) and I think she might get sued soon.
>Serially harasses Mysta/Kuro (spawning from jealousy over Mika and Mysta becoming friends during the Luxiem offcollab)>Also harasses other Nijisanji streamers such as Mika, Kotoka, and other members of Luxiem>Harasses other Mysta/Luxiem fans over completely unjustified reasons such as not liking them “the right way” such as clippers, fan artists, etc>Created tons of Mysta/Kuro hate threads on the 4chan catalog highlighting out of context clips to spawn hate towards him while also complaining about the hate that he gets on Nijisanji threads (even complained about the hate he gets on this website once kek)>Frequently blog posted about having a miserable life and no friends and self posted art from her own Twitter account (which is another thing that ended up getting her doxxed)>Harasses Mysta around his graduation announcement time (something she might be possibly responsible for) on Twitter which leads to him responding to one of her tweets telling her to move on (picrel)>Still is somehow a Kuro hater/fan when he debuts, still going on with the usual routine of making fanart and replying to every single one of his tweets on a hate account and her fanartist account >Kuro gets a hate dono from her one day and says he knows what her main account is, which leads to her making tweets about how she wants to leave the internet and how regretful she is of her previous actions, which alerts other Kuro/Mysta fans of her Horayo identity >Kuro mocks his haters on stream one day and she takes this as a slight towards her and goes on a full smear campaign to generate him hate by making malicious clips and spamming them under random fantweets and posting them on 4chan>Has a “reborn” hate account now where she’s just talking to herself about how much she hates Mysta and telling random fans to “apologize” for being a fan of him>Now Mysta’s nyfco page is just full of her ranting to herself about not caring if she gets sued and fighting with Mysta fansParasocialism truly is a disease.
No. 344327
>>344314AYRT oh my god, are you me? I never got into Niji EN but I was big into ID and KR and the slow death of those branches made me so sad. It always felt like you never knew when your favorite would leave in KR, and after the third graduation of somebody I watched there (Shin Kiru), I just gave up, which was a shame since that's the only non-EN branch I can fluently understand. With the bullying and mismanagement, though, I get why they ended up as they did.
ID though? The way they killed a branch that absolutely thrived on its own and then further neutered it by merging it with JP was just sad. I was already gone by the time the mass graduations started happening, but each one was so sad.
I hate to turn my back on the group that brought me into all this, but I'm a lot happier with the stability Holo provides me as a fan. I was a StarsJP watcher convurrent to watching Niji for years, but after finding my Hololive EN oshi, I've been really content as a fan. Who do you watch now?
And yeah, kek, Mayuzumi's kayfabe was strong enough that it's pretty easy to divorce him from Yamien. And his troon shit never really came out with the character, unlike the way some other livers have slowly morphed their characters to their gender illness. No. 344335
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I'm actually so excited for Fauna to go on break. Getting daily episodes of her Outer Wilds let's play is going to be a nice and easy to keep up with treat each day during a stressful time of year.
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No. 344427
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>>344285>>344293Mayuyu was my kamioshi for a long time. I didn't even care about him being a troon irl much at first, but it's pretty disappointing nonetheless. I do still miss him and wish he was still around in Nijisanji.
>>343919I initially thought Ruze was going to be my new oshi, but I definitely have a soft spot for this bratty, dumb dino.
No. 344438
>>344402Yup, when it comes to english speaking fans I think that most people have a positive opinion of them and find it cool when their oshi gets to interact with them (like Sonny and Zali recently), but they don't exactly have a super big dedicated fanbase outside of Japan.
This is the case for Niji JP in general since most people can't understand japanese and it's not like Niji puts in much effort into advertising their JP branch overseas.
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>>343914>Zaion is in her lore video>her lore is that she was traumatized and broken by NijisanjiKEKW
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>>344473The past year of her career summarized in one image
No. 344482
>>344473Kek, I had to watch the video. This is the most melodramatic thing I've ever seen in my life. "You can't play your old Genshin account in Niji" = putting her under surgery, electrocuting her, forcing her to become someone she's not, then literally kicking her poor anime neko/kitsune(?) girl self into the streets to survive in the pouring rain. Ok.jpg
Reminds me of Yanderedev's infamous video where he portrays all of his struggles except he's a cute anime girl being bullied by le internet.
And what's with the Kson appearance? Is she trying to imply she's going to be a part of Vshojo? Do they even want her?
No. 344484
>>344482Kson just likes to blindly support whoever gets burned by corpos, she was doing commentary on some of Sayu's original disclosures about Nijisanji back when her first google doc came out.
If anybody really wants a good laugh, check out the comments. I like the one likening what happened to her to psychological horror kek
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Just wondering, but for those of you who have a female kami oshi, what's your sexuality? I'm a lesbian, although I wouldn't say that I'm attracted to my oshi at all (even if I am to some of the other female chuubas I watch).
No. 344496
>>344495I'm straight (I think… I'm not sexually attracted to women). My kami oshi is female simply because I don't like men and therefore don't watch male chuubas kek.
>>344482Kekw Yunii being in the video after Sayu shat on her.
No. 344506
AYRT
>>344496Yeah, it's the same reason for me. I don't want to watch men and I'd still watch only female chuubas if I was straight kek
>>344503Nice, I wish there was a term for it that didn't sound misogynistic but hag chuubas are really just the best.
Honestly I'm pretty sure that viewers who genuinely oshi somebody for waifu reasons are pretty rare.
No. 344525
>>344181Does Cover even hire gendies to become vtubers in their company anyway? The only one I'm aware of is maybe Kronii's PL, who's apparently a "nb lesbian" or something like that. I'm a fan of livers from both Holo and Nijisanji, but something that I've noticed is that Anycolor is more lax on hiring vtubers to join their companies compared to Cover. They're more willing to hire menhera gendies like Yugo and Mayuzumi to join their companies, whereas for livers under Cover, the "wildest" they'll get is hiring bisexuals (Tempus Vanguard boys are a good example of this). In fact, it might be too risky on a business standpoint for Cover to hire TIM/TIFs, as the Holo streaming culture is "boys interact with boys only and girls interact with girls only"
unless you're in ID or want the male fans to give you shit forever aka Mori kek.
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No. 344568
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>>344495Straight. My old friend group introduced me to hololive and niji but I found the idea of being an idol and developing more intimate friendships with other girls to be more interesting; nothing against the niji guys but mixed gender collabs aren't my cup of tea.
No. 344609
>>344568>>344553Thanks for the input, sounds like there are plenty of straight girls amongst Hololive viewers. I saw somebody asserting that most of the women watching Holo were gay and was like… I know I'm gay but there's no way that's true. I think moids just project onto us the way they can't stay engaged with something they're not interested in sticking their dick into.
I think this does reflect what I see with kpop idols too where women will support both male and female idols but men aren't really interested in other men.
No. 344633
>>344495I'm straight, but I mostly watch female vtubers. It's an 'I want to be friends with them/I want to be more like them' thing. Listening to chatting streams feels like having a sleepover. I'm also an indie myself and I love the idea of making some good female vtuber pals eventually.
I've watched male streamers before, both vtubers and flesh streamers, but I've been burned too many times… It's like males can't be trusted to become popular online and not abuse it. It started out with liking Cryaotic when I was in middle school kek. Now, I feel a bit burned by Magni. I refuse to watch his new life.
No. 344658
>>344633I feel you… I've been wanting to become a chuuba lately and it's primarily because it seems like a good way to put myself out there and hopefully make some good likeminded female friends.
Hololive talents go through a lot, but I do envy the close friendships with other driven women that you get as a result of the work.
No. 344791
>>344633It gets worse. The male indie Vtuber whose asmr I used to like turned out to be a groomer.
I thought about starting primarily because I wanted friends like that. TBH, the reason watching collabs is fun for me is because I could NEVER.
I hope you find your friends. And yeah, men are
sus. It's funny cz before the whole crap with “colabbing with males good/bad”, I preferred women-only collabs (straight woman here). There was simply no line to cross with regards to yabai stuff. There's one with Kiara and Lui grabbing each other's boobs kek
I've seen fleshtuber groups based (almost) on gender recently. It's not officially a thing, but those streams and podcasts are definitely more fun to watch.
No. 344796
>>344609NTA but it's in real life as well. Men just dislike their girlfriends having male friends. (I'm sure the reverse also happens, but I've just seen that more from men irl).
I think it's because a lot of guys actually befriend girls in relationships and wait like hyenas for a breakup. They think they have a chance as long as their oshi is single.
Another straight woman who likes both Hololive and Tempus. Preferably separately. I used to like Niji, and I noticed the hate towards female livers get stronger after interacting with, say, Luxiem.
I do think there's a lot more potential to be uncensored in women only collabs, but it's also funny while watching Niji girls just go for it and ignore the make presence entirely.
No. 344803
>>344495Straight girl. I like Elira cz she's relatable. Nina/Tara is extroversion goals. Mococo is freaking cute and I love FWMC's dynamic.
The boys are nice too, but girls' streams are just more comfy. I realised I was always more likely to click on a girl's stream than a guy's. Final Ethyria collabs felt like listening to friends talk.
There are many ways to be parasocial, and it's easier to simp for women cz they're much less likely to be pedos.
No. 344839
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Selen's Last Cup of Coffee cover made with 16 artists is privated shortly after release. We don't know why management had a problem with it after its production AND release… I hope it'll be solved quickly and they put it back up. Selen's doing the most for EN yet she deals with the most bullshit.
No. 344840
>>344658You should do it, nonita. You may as well get a cheap model and a cheap microphone, and try out streaming! As long as you don't mind streaming to only 0-5 people the first few weeks.
I'm a bit surprised at how much fun I'm having. I'm becoming more serious and considering upgrading a lot of my tech.
No. 344868
>>344839Seems like she put a lot of money into it too.
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1739501756659507206Selen keeps getting screwed over by management in weird ways. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes, it's easy to go for the black company memes but this feels like it happens too often to Selen in specific.
No. 344951
>>344868Popular rrat: she got approval without anyone checking the full video, fans pointed out Nina and Mysta and then management private the video. Thus, the tweet.
Some of these companies are pretty particular about excluding graduated chuubas, so it's pretty likely. A lot of people read that as, “Is she leaving?”
No. 344958
>>344951Hell, I feel like Niji SHOULD be worried, and this will only make things worse.
I don't really like Vshojo, just in regards to the direction of content streamers seem to take things after joining. But at this point it'd be hard to blame people for leaving Holo or Niji for Vshojo, considering how bad the big corpos seem to treat their talents.
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Something about this feels off.
No. 345062
>>344840How has your experience been collabing with others, or do you mostly do solo streams?
I think I will give it a shot, doesn't hurt to try and see how I like it. Thanks for the push!
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Today is Kanata's 4th anniversary! congrats kanatan!
No. 345076
>>344962Projects like this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L88r98G4YiM&pp=ygUgU2VsZW4gdGF0c3VraSBsYXN0IGN1cCBvZiBjb2ZmZWU%3DIt's like a great graduation gift for both of them. But it could easily be interpreted as Selen's graduation gift to her fans.
And the fan sentiment has shifted a lot since they started talking. Mysta's got crap early on, but don't prior are starting to have issues with Nina too now.
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>>345057I think it generally feels kind of weird and dox-y for vtubers to post photos of actual people. Plus, hasn't he sexualized his mom to some degree, or was that another vtuber? I feel like a lot of vtubers have their moms come onto stream and say "ara ara" and whatnot.
Regardless, his mom's gonna be sexualized to hell and back now.
No. 345084
>>345082Yeah that’s sort of what I mean. Even if he had her consent, posting his mom knowing the type of audience he has feels off. The qrts are filled with people calling her a milf.
As for sexualizing her, I think you’re thinking of Kenji. He had his artist draw his mom an avatar and gave her extremely big boobs. When people pointed he out he replied with “she got them thangs”.
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I'm an anon who has been vtubing for a few months and I have a few hundred followers, if any other anons have questions about starting vtubing I can try to answer. As long as it's okay with other nonitas in the thread!
No. 345448
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Mikeneko/Nazuna left Vshojo
No. 345458
>>345438I’m an art
nonnie and I took a break from streaming this month because I realized that I gave people the expectation that they can get art from me for free. While it’s easy to do free art giveaways, I would like to make an income doing art commissions and I know lots of vtubers can’t easily drop money for the type of art I charge. I’m gonna start off the year with fire emblem content because I genuinely enjoy that series and the fandom is still going. I figured, why not? I guess I want to know how to get people actually interested in commissioning my stuff.
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>>345438How do you continue streaming when the few in your chat are being weird? I didn't start yet but I joined a low ccv chuuba who's chat was filled with one shizo asking weird sexual questions and she was ignoring him but he just kept going. If that happens to me, do I tell them to fuck off even though they're my 1 viewer? General advice about how to interact with chat at the beginning would be great too. Good luck with your streams in 2024 nonna!
No. 345515
>>345438How do you protect yourself from getting doxxed? I was thinking of setting all my irl socials to private and hopping for the best.
How much is a 2d model? I've heard it can go as high as 10k. I was thinking of using VRChat since Filian seems to use a cheap off the rack model from that and seems to being doing well.
No. 345516
>>345456NTA OBS has an option to set up a delay. It's mostly for crappy internet. You could use that combined with a macro to mute and screen switch. I wouldn't go for 2 mins though, I use 10 seconds.
Radio has something called a dump button which flushes the last X seconds and smartly blends it in. Afaik there's been a few janky attempts to get it working for OBS.
No. 345568
>>345515NTA. This guide is helpful
https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166I also recommend going to white pages sites and scrubbing your name/personal info from those too. It's a time-consuming task but it's worth it for protection. Sayu avoided being successfully doxxed when she got terminated from Nijisanji because she had removed all of her current info from a bunch of those sites.
No. 345569
>>345538>>345542Thanks. I thought I would be having to drop high hundreds minimum.
>>345561These look a lot better than what I thought they'd be for starting off.
No. 345570
>>345568This is a pretty good list. I think I'm just gonna scrub everything.
I have a pretty strong small region accent though. I can avoid slang handy enough but I need to work on getting myself more generic. Or I could just mention somewhere random every time if they ask me if I'm from x.
No. 345655
Sorry for incoming text wall, I'll try to answer all nonita's questions about vtubing.
>>345449Here's my 2 answers if you're serious about getting a few hundred followers:
1. (Low cost) Try building a niche, and if you're on youtube, utilize using shorts or pre-edited videos. If you're just 'cute girl gaming', you'll probably eventually gather followers, but I think it could be beneficial to do something new - Do you speak multiple languages? Make 1 minute videos teaching words in that language. Are you really good at an obscure video game or unique hobby? Make some videos on that to attract other fans of the hobby. Singing, music, and art streams seem like they'll always do well if you have those skills!
2. (Potentially costs money) Commission some art and try to post it around with a cute caption, perhaps on r/virtualyoutubers or other websites. You can get cute, cheap art on Skeb. Maybe it feels more sleazy, but I think you can gather some people by showing off a cute model.
>>345456I just try to warn myself, anything you say online, could potentially be linked to your real identity or workplace someday despite your best efforts. Try to not say anything that theoretically, you wouldn't want linked to yourself. Being an anime girl online is just cringe, but not a fire-able offense. Being an anime girl online and making race jokes is cringey AND potentially fire-able.
>>345460Maybe you can start out by modding for yourself, or having a friend mod for you. Once you have 10+ viewers, you can ask around if anyone wants to mod for you. If someone's being downright a troll, just get rid of them. They're not worth the view or engagement. I think generally, people like if you greet them by username in your stream, and try to read at least a few comments as long as they're not derailing!
>>345515Seems like you already got some good answers to this, but I'll just add that remember that chance of you being doxed, even if it's only .01%. I just try to say, "Worst case scenario, would this being linked to my professional identity be career-ending?"
I accidentally almost doxed myself a few times when I started streaming, but when you're a small, new vtuber, people are pretty forgiving imo.
Nothing wrong with starting out with a free model. But if you eventually decide you want your own model, there are some pretty good artists on Etsy who can do character design + art + rigging for $200 - 600 USD. Not too bad imo! Not Hololive-tier ofc, but I think there are some pretty cute ones, especially if you can go in with an idea of how you want to look, or even do your own rough sketch and have someone create the model for you.
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>>345456I said faggot out loud on stream once, none of my viewers cared, but I did personalized myself as a major pick-me, all that happened was a regular clipped it and twitch gave me a warning. Most vtuber viewers don’t care if you market yourself as an edgelord, but if you want mass appeal, it would be more difficult. My viewers are typically well behaved and “LUL” at most what I say, none actually start “simping” at me romantically.
>>345655 has great advice as well.
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I still think Millie is so annoying for blatantly fighting for her life to defend Niji under Selen's tweet
No. 346311
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Blogpost but I'm an anon who's lucky enough to have a few thousand followers. I'm nothing amazing, but I guess I'm not trapped with having 0-2 ccv like a lot of indie tubers.
Jfc tho, I keep having random male and TIM vtubers reaching out to me for collabs. Like, ones who haven't even debuted or only have 80 followers. Female vtubers are smart enough to reach out to me just to say hi and get to know each other, and not even talk about collabs early on.
Not that everything is about numbers, or that I'm super exceptional. But if I've never heard of you, never seen your streaming, we haven't even had a conversation, no one likes you enough to follow you, why would I want to give you the time of day? I don't 100% buy into idol/GFE culture either, but I realize that streaming with random 0 view males is gonna be detrimental to my fanbase, if anything.
It goes without saying but reaching out to someone bigger than you just to be like 'wanna collab' comes off as desperate and clingy. If you really like them just say hi and visit their streams sometimes. See if they wanna chat about shared interests and form a natural friendship.
No. 346325
>>346311I think that goes for zero view female vtubers as well. Or even bigger ones that you don't know of. You don't wanna collab with anyone when you don't even know how
toxic they are. And that's not too say boycott the ones you find
toxic, but you should have a clear idea about the other person's issues.
No. 346543
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Been seeing this vtuber pop up on my Twitter feed, pumpkin potion is her name.
Honestly her design is so refreshing compared to the basic big titty anime girl or loli 90% of female vtubing avatars are.
I wish more vtubers would be willing to bust out of the basic anime look for their avatars and try out some different art styles.
No. 346627
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Does anybody ITT like Rosemi? Her new outfit is so unexpected but cute!
No. 346647
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>>346570The art is cute, but also in motion, it reminds me a bit of apple memojis rip.
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>>346574>>346618please show us what an acceptable vtuber avatar looks like
No. 346693
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Pomu's graduating.
No. 346701
>>346693We might not know what goes on behind the scenes but you'd have to be delusional to believe things are fine at Niji at this point
Guess now we know why we haven't gotten Selen's grad announcement yet
No. 346739
>>346693I haven't watched much Pomu, but I've seen her fans swear up and down that she was super loyal to Nijisanji and doing her best to care about the company, even though the Hololive talents are clearly happier. For example, Pomu puts the Niji logo in every thumbnail. If they scared off Pomu, who's presumably one of their most paid and most loyal female talents, I don't even know what to expect next. I have a feeling this is just the beginning, though.
I don't love Vshojo but tbh, at this point, the talents seem way happier there than at Niji. I can't blame anyone who goes to Vshojo at this point.
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>>346668NTAYRT but I actually think most the mainstream vtuber avatars are fine. Most the hololive and niji models I've seen are perfectly acceptable. And if anything, the main complaints I have wouldn't be about the models being too sexy or coomerish, it'd be that some of them are overdesigned (Kiara's base outfit needs less hats and weapons.)
I don't even mind a model with a bit of sex appeal or booba. The only thing that really bothers me is loli characters clearly meant to loli-bait, or when the booba is ridiculously out of control, like they can't move 1 inch without the tits flapping everywhere, but that seems to be more of a twitch indie streamer problem than a mainstream corpo problem.
I just get the feeling the vtubers were made by anime enjoyers for anime enjoyers, so anyone who dislikes anime as a genre or aesthetic will have a tougher time enjoying vtubers imo.
No. 346768
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>>346765I've heard that non-coom models like Korone are a bit booba because their tits look better when on when you're in a 2d model. I don't know how much about that is true though, Im not an artfag.
As for the other stuff even very non-coom models like Filian say their fanbase is 90% male. If you have that market you have to pander I guess.
I wonder if there's any girl vtubers out their that have a majority female fanbase?
No. 346769
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>>346768Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't even care if female vtubers have models with big boobs, as long as it's not jiggled physics x infinity or the main point of the design. Some irl women have big boobs as well, and male fans are gonna sexualize you regardless.
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>>346769Yeah a bit of movement is fine. I guess it adds depth to their model. Nyanners models were pretty good with that. Shit like Shy Lilly is just ridiculous.
No. 346830
>>346813Also, this might sound nitpicky, but I've seen a lot of vtubers with flat chests or loli models really play into the loli thing, which I find more despicable than playing a grown-ish woman with jiggly tits.
One of my least favorite vtuber tropes is the loli vtubers doing the 'uwuuu I look like a child irl too' thing. Like, on handcams, they'll be like, "omg you gaaaiz~ I know my hands are small, but I'm totes not a kid~" or "People always ask me where my parents are when I'm out in public…"
Idk if this sounds schizophrenic, and I could believe they're actual problems petite adult women face. But there's a lot of vtubers who play into the trope way too much, by constantly bringing up stories of being mistaken as a child. It's fetishizing. Vid related.
>omg gaizzz these are adult hands! They're so smol but they're adult hands! Quit annoying me by commenting on their size!>edits a whole short to publicize this issue and act all bratty and cheeky, which will 100% encourage scrotes to continue making the exact same comments No. 346842
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>be me
>get tired of EN moids
>want to learn JP anyway, why not watch a streamer with a handsome voice to practice listening
>don't want to watch 10 hour long FPS streams where the streamer doesn't talk about any topic for long
>find a popular streamer with a nice voice and funny personality
>his fans are also funny
>streams games or zatsu instead of spamming FPS
>streams a few times a month so I have time to catch up to vods and rewatch so I can progress in listening JP
>also has EN fans so I can understand parts I miss in JP
>figure out he's the infamous lolicon retard
At least he feeds into my correcting moids as an older woman fantasy but is it ever really worth it. Do these retards have no personality to push their content other than being a pervert? I don't know if it's me being a pervert magnet or males that can never be normal beneath the surface. Anyway
>new motivation to learn JP so I can find the fanworks where he's being corrected by older women
No. 346845
>>346842This is beautifully comedic LOL I have no idea how you missed this critical trait of his.
>>346830I was only talking about the model, but if we're bringing the people behind the models into the convo, I find any kind of over-playing into the degen sexual appeal of the model to be annoying.
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>>346843>>346845I knew there was a lolicon in NijiJP but I didn't care to remember his name or model kek I only noticed him when he had that 200k ccv stream and only connected the dots now… I even knew of Akina as the shotacon since the exact same thing happened with him before. I might be the problem
No. 346847
>>346842Plenty of JP males aren't openly perverts though, you just somehow picked the lolicon. But that is a pretty funny situation all things considered.
>find the fanworks where he's being corrected by older womenI don't know if he has a lot of those but his ship (Togabito) is probably the second most popular ship in Niji JP fan content-wise if you can into Japanese.
No. 346853
>>346852>samefagdo you not know what that word means?
if you think wiping a lolicon incel's ass and making him tendies until he loves you more than his 5 year old waifu is based then you do you. just don't say it out loud because you'll have a mile long line of real moids desperate for you to fix them at your door. though, that's the whole appeal for the 4 women who are into it…
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>>346848>>346849doesnt have to be oneeshota. female oriented femdom maybe. dk if it's what you're looking for, some delinquent correcting mangas were trending on twitter.
No. 346881
>>346875>female oriented>giant boobs occupying 60% of the screen>guy is uglylol
lmao, even
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I honestly have no problems with being sexual per se, but it just does not feel right when it is done by someone who speaks like a Nick Jr. character.
No. 346919
I personally think Advent has had the best round of NY outfits so far in EN. With the previous two gens, there was always at least one I found to be underwhelming or just ugly, but I really liked all of Advents.
>>346894The turn-off for me in Advent's wasn't Fuwawa's but Biboo's. The pacifier lol… Cute outfit aside from that though.
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Selen discord leak. I feel bad, from what I've seen and heard she seems very sweet and hardworking. It'll be sad to see her lose her current identity, but I hope she can find somewhere to be comfortable.
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There should be a v-thots threads on one of the milk boards, cause wtf man. They’re clearly just asking for Vtubers that aren’t kawaii anime big booby #500000. But all the “lewd tubers” are very mad about this
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>>346968Tbh, both posters are stupid to me. I disagree with the idea that it's overcrowded with 'one singular horny idea'. If he dislikes female streamers, Niji and Holo clearly both offer mainstream male streamers. If he wants female streamers without no or minimal skin (no more than thighs or arms) showing, several mainstream ones are: Rosemi, Maria Marionette, Mumei, Kaela, Bijou. If he dislikes anime as an aesthetic, he might not enjoy most vtubing in its current state, but he should reframe to ask about non-anime aesthetic vtubers.
Reply is obviously too aggro and inflammatory, although I do agree a busty character doesn't immediately mean she's jerk off lewdbaiting material.
If picrel is too horny for you that's a 'you' problem.
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>>346957Where did you get this? I've only seen it here, not circulated in any of the usual places.
It does seem to corroborate statements made by other individuals involved.
Picrel was one of the primary artists involved in the MV.
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I love being a transphobic Vtuber. I will not say Trans rights, quit asking!!
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Can this woman never catch a break?
No. 347868
>>347853It seems more likely that it was another stealth suspension.
Man though, it's been a big mask off to see how fast a good chunk of Niji's fanbase turned on her once her situation became speculative bad PR for the company. I've seen a lot of Niji fans over the past couple weeks calling for her to graduate because this whole fiasco was the last straw for them after seeing her repeatedly express displeasure with management.
No. 347875
>>347865What's the point of all of that if you lose 15k because management fucked up telling you it wasn't actually allowed? And it's not the first time her projects have been fucked over either. I definitely think she thrives better in a corporation then as a solo indie vtuber, but at some point the setbacks are bigger than the advantages.
>>347873There's so many signs that whatever little management they have for EN is absolutely useless. I know some of them are rrats but even people with just two working eyes can see that the main Niji branch has no clue how to properly manage their EN branch. The blatant favoritism for Luxiem doesn't help either (though that has been way less since Mysta decided to leave)
No. 347913
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Everywhere I go… tribalism. Iketog? Tribalism. /vt/? Tribalism. /jp/? Tribalism. Twitter, Discord, even in Nijisanji clips… I can't even escape it here. I'm so tired. This forced numbers-focused Holo-Niji company wars drama was never a thing until the massive increase of popularity vtubing (more specifically, Holo, of which brought on the massive, unfortunate "unicorn" atmosphere we have now. Thanks Kson. Hope you go to Hell.) experienced in late 2019. Before that, everyone was kept contained in a single thread, and if you brought up some stupid shit like numbers you were rightfully shitted on. It was known that every company had it's faults, but everyone was still tight-knit because at the end of the day we shared the same hobby and vtubers would collab regardless of what opinions fans held. Now everything has reached borderline retarded kpop fan wars, and it even feels like this tribalism has leaked it's way into how each company and vtuber operates and interacts with one another. No1Curr, but I'm so tired of "rrats" (I hate this retarded term) by people who clearly only care about the drama and not the entertainers/entertainment.
No. 348077
>>347913>>347949yeah cause upd8 totally never imploded over a year in real time and everything was peachy and drama-less back then too
a girl gets 5150'd, you should expect people who fucked her over by a retarded bureaucratic inability to effectively communicate to be shittalked
as for unicorns, that's much more on gamers-4th gen managers, but that's less of an issue unless all you care about is numbers; there's just a lot of schadenfraude in seeing people lie about being single or virgins and then have their paypigs find out
and clip-bait is part of every part of streaming, just there was a lot less stream and a lot more recorded and contained content back then
hell, half the shit you're blaming on en fans was done with chinese fans before thatz
let alone you clearly being a tribalist yourself
No. 348116
>>344293I looked up the other woman and that's definitely Mirei Gundou. Thanks,
nonnie. I didn't think I'd find her again among the jp chuubas.
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>>347513I hope they find success and eventually open a male branch.
No. 348641
>>348543Gothic lolita sounds super cute, look up Raden from Hololive (sorry if that's not 'EGL' for any lolita nonnies, I don't know all the subgenres of lolita.)
Also, don't underestimate how much you can control the vibe you give off. My model has a little bit of skin showing, just because that's my taste in fashion, but I've made it clear that I'm not a 'girlfriend experience' streamer and they can find that elsewhere. For the most part, people have been super respectful. You can get a few mods once you have more viewers.
Tbh, the main challenge I've been dealing with is random 1-views and undebuted males and furries dming me asking to collab.
#1, I don't even know you, at least say hi first (even though I'm going to ignore it) and
#2 collabing with random 0-view males and furries is going to be DETRIMENTAL to my growth
I just ignore the DMs these days kek. Only interested in networking with female vtubers who have been doing this for at least a few days.
If you have any other questions about vtubing I can try to answer!
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No. 349009
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Came out of left field. Anybody who watches a lot of JP see the signs?
No. 349020
>>349012Apparently the tone and wording of the JP announcement clarified that this was an amicable separation agreed upon as the best way forward for both parties. A-chan and Yagoo's tweets on the matter similarly both sound grateful to her despite her departure. Don't know if we'll ever know what happened, but I'm happy to know it wasn't sour after such a long relationship.
It really is sad that she won'tbe able to able to have a proper graduation, though. Termination from contract breach is going to be what it is, but she was just talking about looking forward to her activities in Holo in the coming year on twitter not too long ago. Streaming, too. It's all so sudden.
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I'm gonna be FR, I hate him. His vibes are all wrong.
No. 349171
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On a positive note, it seems like Enna, Millie, and Nina/Matara met up! My parasocial heart feels full knowing they're still close, especially after all they've been through.
(Just stole this image off twit since I'm to lazy to cap & edit my own, but Enna also tweeted about waiting for an elevator)
No. 349218
>>349209Because a) it doesn't provide that much relevant context since he's being 100% serious and b) I'm not interested in drawing attention to the OP because it's just a woman indulging herself on her period, and I've seen her get mocked harshly elsewhere for what was at most mildly cringe content.
TLDR for other nonnas, he's QRT-ing off of his entry in a thread where somebody made "reacting to you on your period" HCs for every Holostars member, including Suzaku which sort of made me kek.
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>>349209Looked up what nonna was talking about and this doesn't make him look much better kek
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>Subathon with huge goals>puts face reveal as a goal>already had a face reveal>doesn't count down to build hype>doesn't do anything interesting to build hype>collabs with his mods>killed off his own momentum by not doing anything interesting the first four days>no appeal to new viewers>1st day: 2k>2nd day: 1k>3rd day: 700>4th day: 400Twitch lurkers won't pay off your debt like Chinese fujos would, huh? He would unironically make more money staying in Niji and streaming once a week than he does now. Moids have such huge egos to think their personality would amount to anything without the Niji brand.
>>349227If majority wants a male we could consider Shu. He's the only decent male chuuba I can think of. If not how about someone from reGloss?
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What non-Hololive or non-Niji streamers does everyone recommend?
I like a lot of Hololive already, but I just want to broaden my horizons. I also really like Tenma.
It seems like there are some good streamers in Niji, but they've had way too much instability recently. Tbh I'm afraid of getting attached… I watched a few Selen videos since she's highly recommended here, but now it looks like she's a goner. Maybe if things are looking better in a few weeks I'll check Niji out again.
No. 349376
>>349371Seconding Amiya, I found out about here a few months back and have watched her since then. I think she's great for existing Hololive fans looking to branch out because she offers a similar level of quality and "idol grind" while being able to do things a Holo girl wouldn't because of perms. And most of all, she's just wholesome and feel-good.
Girl has been at this for a long time without slowing down, even when her former small corpo (Tsunderia) dissolved, so I can pretty confidently say you can trust her to stick around.
No. 349388
>>349381The general consensus was that he was being stupid and the fan was actually insane (she has a track record of overextrapolating meaning from simple interactions with other vtubers as well). She got banned from his chat and had a meltie about it, but that was enough action on the issue for most people to move on (although some still call him Groombullet kek).
I hope his issues stop at just being super cringe because Armis as a gen is great and we don't need another HQ situation where morale gets blasted for months because of one member's retardation.
No. 350010
>>349225He seems like a sweet guy. Just hyperactive. Some of the younger ones reminds me of myself when I was younger. Cringe. No drama afaik. A little OTT sometimes.
>>349331Thirded.
I've liked Elira since I saw her with Nina. She's casually shilling omegaverse. Based.
>>349376Miori Celesta. She has a great voice and sounds great.
If you're okay with males: Vtuber Senpai is where I started. Even if you don't wanna be a Vtuber, it's generally good life advice. Haven't seen his stuff in a while though.
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Apparently rushia is getting sued by mafumafu