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don't know if this has been posted yet. I checked the last thread. But seriously why are they like this?
In that anon's defense, no one suggested anything.
Why is this thread so particular about the thread pic anyway?
other, better suggestions, retard.
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Have to agree. Whoever’s been in charge of making the threads and choosing the pics needs to stop being an idiot and actually choose ones that people nominate.
Anyway, Hitomi looks pretty off this time around. Feel like it’s the combination of shitty-toned blonde hair + weird facial features + even thinner body than before. I used to think she was kinda cute-looking on PD48 but styling like this really exposes how below average-looking she actually is.
Yeah it's like it would otherwise lower the worth of kpop or give them a bad image or something.
With the majority of them being white they think it looks more legit and impressive. They delude themselves into thinking that the hallyu wave is significant in western countries but don't acknowledge those countries who actually contributed to the increasing popularity of Korean entertainment.
Nothing new though.
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twice boob padding: 2015 vs 2019
jyp needs to calm down
Ikr! She's a fucking twig.
Her Swalla dance would definitely look better if she was thicker but I'm guessing YG is feeding her air.
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This is bad. And her stans are still denying and calling out people for "thinshaming"… Just look at her arms, holy shit. Her torso. Everything.
And kpop stans see this and will still unironically claim that kpop is tame, innocent, not as sexual as dirty western artists…
She's honestly gross to look at, this reminds me of one of those weird skelly fetish porns.
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Look at the skin on her arms, she's gone full ana.
I used to give Lisa benefit of a doubt sunce she was naturally skinny and very active through dancing since her childhood.
But this is obviously some sort of eating disorder. She looks scary…
I used to give Lisa benefit of a doubt sunce she was naturally skinny and very active through dancing since her childhood.
But this is obviously some sort of eating disorder. She looks scary…
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/r/kpop weighs in, love the logic
This is genuinely terrifying.
Her and Rose are looking more like Eugenia Cooney by the day, but if you point it out then you're accused of body shaming them.
I feel like they must be encouraging each other, you always see Rose and Lisa together. I'm afraid one of them is going have a heart attack or seizure onstage at this rate. Really, really sad because I actually love their voices.
I wonder how their blind stans are going to react when something happens to them after they've gone around telling people nothing is wrong.
Nta, but I'm pretty sure she meant "the other girls" as in Lisa's background dancers.
Unsaged, quick to defend Lisa, hm…
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Checked the thread about the performance and most people seem to agree that Lisa is in anachan territory at this point. However there are a few delusional BLINKs trying to suck her dick for who knows what as shown in >pic related.
yeah, i meant the backup dancers
rose is even worse imo
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Jeonghan was trending on stan Twitter for apparently being homophobic.
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lip tint on male idols is terrible period. it makes them looks like faggots even more so when they have masculine features
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ew a few of them remind me of those uggo white girls with gangnam unnie faces that you occasionally see on online korean fashion stores, trying to fit in with the extreme standards
I wish he was but it seems like that was only in the searches because of someone's joke>>40024
Nta but are you esl or do you disagree…? Uggo = ugly..
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I apologize for the quality, but this has to be one of the worst k-trends imo. Especially when it's a fan edited picture and they make them super white white super bright lips, it's so fucking ugly. Why is turning kpop boys into Edward Avila acceptable lately.
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speaking of padding, when gotta go was released i thought chungha had a boob job and now she stopped stuffing her bra apparently. it's not milky or anything, i just don't understand why you'd do that when it's so obvious
I almost vomited jesus>>39989
It's called the "too pretty to eat diet" >>39996
Someone in the comments said that "Lisa looks like she's happiest she's ever been"
They're fucking blind
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he was never a looker to begin with but BAP's himchan looks a hot mess. i guess that's what happens when you flop. considering BTS replaced BAP i wonder what they are all gonna look like in a few years kek
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This is genuinely terrifying. I know eating disorders are encouraged in the kpop industry, but is there seriously no one around her who's concerned about her health? I know her fellow bandmates are skellies too but aren't her parents worried? Her manager? Her choreographer? Her non-idol friends? This is just sad, I sincerely hope she has supportive people around her and doesn't just hang out with Rose drinking coffee and miso.
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Honestly, when you see idols next to "average" people they look like normal thin to average ratio…but the reality is that the "average" looking people are most likely thin or fit.
It'd be so shocking if their faces got more hollowed or idols didn't have such narrow/short frames, but even despite that they still have ribs showing in fancams, etc.
I feel like companies used to hide it more around 2014 and before than they do now. So Jung seemed talkative and energetic back during the Pretty Pretty era despite sharing her calorie diary briefly and saying she hardly ate anything but a few cherry tomatoes.
I wonder if they have them on a Judy Garland diet, but I'm guessing the truth behind it is most likely extreme restriction and overexercising as usual.
They haven't rebounded like other idols in between comebacks do, I feel like either they're all enabling each other, feel in competition with one another, or their leash is very tight. Maybe all 3.>>39998
She's got that sinewy 40+-year-old runner body, got that Angelina Jolie old sinewy look at 22.
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She's doing it for her ~fashion career~>>40030
Do you mean aegyo anon LMAOOO (well it might as well be called ahegao at this point anyway, maybe we should call it that?)>>39984
Honestly if it were representative it would mainly be Japanese, Thai, Filipino, Chinese and American (because of BTS), if we are talking about sales>>39985
They'll just deny it, they fetishize the ghost look anyway. If you can deny Lisa's surgery and bleaching you can deny anything
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I think I lost a few brain cells reading this.
Anon, even tho it's part of their culture, it nevertheless is cringy when asians do it lol
You're probably just so used to seeing it that you're desensitized to how weird it looks. Your unnies and oppars aren't any better than those girls.
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Rose usually wears baggy pants and Lisa just flat out be showing her non existent stomach
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Last year during that one award show I thought she looked so much healthier and better but idk what happened after that…I could be tinfoiling and say yg told her to not gain anymore weight and that got her all insecure or she personally thought she looked fat? But I yet have to see Lisa not being underweight for once.
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i don't think so.
i wonder why jennie is the only blackpink member that wears padding. you'd think since rosé likes flaunting her 'womanly' figure and lisa likes twerking they'd wear padding.
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Sorry didnt post the pic
Cause Jennie is the only attention seeker in bp imo. The others just kinda go with their image and to me rose's obsession with weight isn't to get attention, it's just something she feels like makes her more attractive.
They don't do tryhard shit like Jennie actively (with the help of yg) trying to get a sexy, fashionista image or something. Jennie seems to be secretly obsessed with her public image and everything she does seems so calculated. That's why it looks like she has zero personality.
Is Jennie even her real name? It's kinda suspect how she's born in Korea yet her real name is supposed to be Jennie Kim.
I think her name in korean is spelled Je-ni, so she just might be one of those who have a 'fancy' foreign name.
I don't really understand rose tho, her name is said to be roseanne but also chae-young.
Every bp member except jisoo has something going with their name
Korean vs Anglo name. Common for asian kids living in anglo countries, they'll be called the asian name at home and have the anglo one on documents
YG will have kept her anglo name because it's more 'exotic' and everyone but Jisoo growing up abroad makes them more exotic and interesting
>>40067>Is Jennie even her real name? It's kinda suspect how she's born in Korea yet her real name is supposed to be Jennie Kim.
Her family is rich and they have international exposure. They had probably planned to move somewhere abroad prior Jennie's birth, thus naming their daughter with a name that sounds both English and Korean. Kinda like how Yujin becomes Eugene, many Koreans abroad have this kind of 'flexible' names. >>40070>I don't really understand rose tho, her name is said to be roseanne but also chae-young.
Rosé was born in NZ. Unlike Jennie's case, her parents decided to make her English and Korean names different from each other. This is actually more common than having a 'flexible' name that can suit both English and Korean. Other examples would be Wendy Son (Son Seung Hwan), Stephanie Hwang (Hwang Mi Young), etc.
A legit curious case would be Niel of Teen Top. His birth name is Daniel Ahn despite being a native Korean and never been born/raised abroad kek. Meanwhile, Kang Daniel's (of Wanna One) name is only a stage name. His birth name is Korean.
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Yeah that's the thing. Even in her yearbook it says Jennie Kim and her Korean name is nowhere to be found.
Of course it's possible that her parents wanted to give her a western name but that would mean they knew she'd be living abroad otherwise it would make little sense. Even mark from nct who is an actual Korean American has a Korean name iirc.
And now she's making fans believe that her name is ruby jane also? Cause of her instagram and this necklace with that name written in Arabic.
Rose's face looks so big compared to Lisa's>>40073
Apparently her full name is Jennie Ruby Jane. In the old facebook account from her NZ high school days there was a friend calling her Jennie Ruby Jane, so she was already using it.
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i honestly think ladies' code's company is pushing them to have this somber and sad look/vibe all the time. i dont doubt that they do have some sort of lingering trauma from the car accident that might have matured them over the years, but i wouldn't doubt that they're also forced to act that way
I think they're quite a talented group. I got into kpop around 2015 so I don't know how popular they were before. It's always sad to see capable people not making it in kpop (or any other music industry really).
I miss spica too, I'd take them over mamamoo any day.
The only solid groups I can think of in terms of talent rn are mamamoo and shinee but i got over kpop and I only come here to see what's going on so there might be new groups.
Shinee also needed a long break instead of promoting right after jonghyun's death. They didn't even have proper time to process everything and they grew up together so it's not like they were just business partners.
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This is your daily Dorito face look
it they’re also trying to move away from traditional “idol” concepts to seem more serious in general. I doubt Polaris was planning on them having this long of a career to begin with, and they don’t bring in big $$. they’re talented, but it feels like their extended career is all a big favor from their agency.
And soo young clearly can’t survive functioning with idol beauty standards. If she looks more mature and somber, she also doesn’t have to starve to appear like a 12 year old girl.
she was thinner than lisa or any other Ana Chan on this thread at the peak of LC’s success.
Not-so-closet shawol, and it seemed like Shinee was choosing to stay busy on purpose to cope.
Their contracts were up after jonghyun died, and they had the choice not to resign at all. Instead they negotiated a deal that has incredibly generous profit margins to the band (considering SM), and every one of them worked nonstop until they enlisted.
It honestly reminded me of my dad going right back to work a few days after my mother died, desperately seeking some sort of normalcy or continuity. the grief caught up later, but in the moment, there was this urge to prove to everyone that he was surviving.
I also think that if shinee didn’t get back together within their 10th anniversary yr, they never would’ve done it at all. They’d been idols for their entire youths and young adulthood’s, and this was as good of an opportunity for a clean break as they’ll ever get.
So as much as—as a sperging fan—I wish they all just quit it and went to therapy and moved the fuck out of Korea, I understand why it felt imperative to keep going nonstop and just push past their feelings.
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This is depressing
the fuck. she looks hella sad here
done with edawn already?
She looks bad
She could have at least smoked out the eyeliner/whatever, the softness of the background and dress clashes with her hair and makeup in a gross way.
Meitu Courtney Love?
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Imagine Shindong being casted as prince eric kek
>>40086> I thought he was that guy with the ps obsession from that 4-member group
I'm also genuinely afraid of seeing any hd pics of that plastic freak from ikon>>40112
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More men are likely to come to a festival if they hear you are being shot by a water gun. Men will pay out the nose for sexualized anything, its their main marketing weakness. Money, money, money. That's what it's about.
Go look at superbowl ads sometime, it's the only vector to advertise to men anymore. You'll see how different the vibe is.
Honestly the idea it's not sexual is almost funny, of course, the line isn't between water guns but that people get to spray down idols and get a thrill from it.
Besides it potentially helping them feel like they're "humiliating" the women, the idea that they'd aim anywhere but their chest/ass/etc is just naive.
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yeah what girl would want to see men with clingy clothing lol
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And yet he's not already dressed down into short-shorts and a crop-top. Why do you think people would shoot young girls with water guns? Why not use male idols?
Anyways my favourite thing out of the waterbomb thing was the "Lisa's forehead finally debuted!" roasts
They honestly didn't. If that's your only argument, then hop off jfc you're gonna start a sperg about goalposting. >>40142
How do those posts = wanting men to die? People can't talk about how uncle fans are nasty?(samefag)
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Chengxiao beats Lisa in having a big forehead. Lisa also has exaggerated facial features to balance out the upper half of her face, but Chengxiao's has a small face so she looks ayy lmao-ish instead.
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>>40139>why not use male idols?
idrc about the whole water bomb situation but male idols have performed at water bomb…here's jay park and i think winner performed too, idk who else
also sunmi's backup male dancers were a big deal too
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I wonder why lisa hasn't had her forehead reduced considering rosé had it done
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goddamn this gave me flashbacks to when people made memes of hyorin's/hyolyn's bulbous forehead back in the second gen days LOL
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Speaking of water bomb, here's Jennie's padding looking absolutely tragic.
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anon it's not so much her face, i mean it helps since she technically doesn't have a butter face like jihyo but all you need to do is search gifs of cheng xiao to understand why she's pretty popular (among men bleh)
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it makes more sense if you look at the other members of her group
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Luda’s actually pretty cute. She’s one of the few idols whose drastic surgery has turned out in their favor.
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A before pic for comparison.
With a water gun, I would try to shoot jay park in his crotch or his titties.
I agree that the water festival thing is disturbing. Remember that this is ”healthy porn” for Korean men!
Why else would you shoot someone on stage with a water gun? I would do it because it's super funny and that’s my style of torture, but most people don't think that way. Usually, they're trying to soak the shirt so that they can see through it.
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I had to finally look it up and find them just by typing "4-member kpop boy group plastic surgery". I guess that's how many label him. So his name is Jion and the group is New Ace.
What is up with people in this thread getting so offended by sex? Idols are not innocent! They have plenty of sex behind the scenes! Of course the whole point of this concert is to be sexually suggestive. The audience knows that and the idols know that! So what’s the problem here? The idols make money and the men in the audience have a bit of fun.
If you seriously think that ALL idols are forced by their evil agencies to act sexy on stage then you are all naive. A lot of people like to be seen as sexy and they like the attention. Stop victimising the idols
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woke muslim kings becoming the first kpop group to perform in saudi arabia lmao
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do you actually know anything about kpop?>>40186
see at least this one admits it.
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Woww, can we talk about how Taeisa is the best ship out there? Even tho I don’t think oppa would even look in her direction, he’s so shy around girls plus he only have eyes for us Army. But tbh I think they would haver very beautiful, skinny, mixed, genius babies uwu
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Imagine if this actually happened
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Lmao that always reminds me of this. Just can't get over the "good christian boy"'s expression.
if companies stopped making kpop groups collab with american flops and made them collab with other successful groups instead they would do a lot of numbers. bp and bts collaborating would make them a lot of money.
i love how they only put the popular bts members lol
A fact about him - "His facial features are all natural. He showed us baby pictures to prove that his picture are altered to make him look how he does."
He's totally in denial and probably wants to look like an anime character but his jaw is in a terrible condition. It's worrisome because his health will get worse and worse as he ages.
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same guy back when he debuted in 2009 as RA-F in Le Quattro. his parents have tried to buy him into an idol career twice, with brutal jaw shaves to try and help, and it didn't work either time
i wonder if the woke legends will attempt to be more modest and halal friendly for the concert and not do their cringy gay fanservice.
afaik it's the biggest stadium in the middle east. i really, really doubt that half of it will be full. they filled up wembley but they won't fill up that one.
Nta but they'd probably tone it down because they need to keep their squeaky clean image, even though their fans there would love to see that shit (as any other fan from any place really). They might also be afraid to potentially offend the country and trigger
their men so…I'm sure they wouldn't want that.
I can already see all the post-concert posts and videos showing how ~respectful~ they were and how they stopped during prayer times.
The Saudi cash must be sweet too.
That might be true but I was only talking about the>afaik it's the biggest stadium in the middle east. i really, really doubt that half of it will be full. they filled up wembley but they won't fill up that one.
part. sorry, should've greentexted it in my post.
woke, peaceful, and innocent oppars going to perform in a country that kills thousands of innocent yemeni women and children and destroyed their homes
Even nicki minaj pulled out from performing there because it looks bad
What kind of shitty fake-innocent poster is this supposed to be?
The only girls going will be daughters from sheiks.
They already performed in an arab country once and it's so weird to see. They just stood in a line, looking midly shocked, while their fangirls in niquabs walked by - of course separated by a tape, so that nobody can touch each other.>>40223
There have been cases of lynchings after guys danced/sang in frijt of girls, but it's never the men who get punished… >>40227
Lmao what a cheap Jaejoong wannabe, even worse than that nct guy
It it extremely hard to travel to saudi and enyone who enters the country must be approved by the government>>40248
Most of the concert-goers are probably going to be family members and daughters of corrupted saudi elites
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I wish they had left the thread unlocked lmao it would have been a trip. a lot of the comments on /r/bangtan actually point out how fucked it is but you still have plenty of the usual defenders that call everyone who says something negative antis
they always do this the second that their intersectional beliefs get compromised. do they support muslims or lgbt in this situation. they don’t know
can’t wait to see lizard boys face at the scarves
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don’t koreans hate islam lmao, how is the saudi thing going down over there?
They probably won't dare to say shit, one of the reasons being that they don't wanna ruin bts' reputation and their goal to spread "Korean culture".
I feel like they'd only admit their hatred when it fits them and when they have nothing to lose.
Completely off topic right now but off the top of my head in Mamamoo there's Hwasa with Loco, Wheein with Bom, Moonbyul with Seulgi, Solar with Hani and quite a bit more that I can't remember.
I don't know about other groups cause I stopped caring a long time ago.
I doubt we'll see groups with big fandoms like bts collab with any other kpop group, especially gg's, ever again. Can you imagine something like BB and 2ne1's Lollipop in 2019? It would be a shitstorm
Not that I'd ever stand up for BTS in most situations but at the very least they understand certain customs, in Singapore, they at least demonstrated they have an understanding not to touch female Muslim fans.
I'm not sure what your Saudi Arabia culture knowledge is, but most parents will likely let their daughters go as long as they're going with other girls and as long as they don't say it's haram.
IMO they'd be more against them seeing a girl group
Completely unrelated to that, but out of a lot of idols one who annoys the shit out of me is BM from KARD.
He's almost 27 and his Instagram is so cringy, from the way he speaks to the way he acts.
I don't pay too much attention to see if there are many still around, but I miss mixed-gender groups.
KARD is so boring and the group falls flat in almost every area of entertainment.
They should drop JiWoo (Who sounds almost exactly like a tone-deaf Soomin? It's odd.) and BM (Who has no charisma, he's overshadowed by J.Seph despite J.Seph looking like a thumb)
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Lmao I had no idea cringy finger hearts dated back to 1962
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>>40185>Official UN Ambassadors doing a money grab concert in a country that kills critical journalists, stones innocent women and hangs gay people.
Woke kings strike again.
I think in this era of social media collabs between popular groups will just end badly because there's always something fans will find to get mad or offended about. Everything can become controversial, especially if it's a boy group+girl group collab. The girls would just receive hate no matter what.
Fans attack idols for breathing near each other now imagine their reaction if they sang and danced together. It's just not a good idea.
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Guys I know it's too early for the thread pic suggestions but here's mine, perfect for the current events.
I would love to post the ones for the rest but this thread is most obsessed with jimin (sorry suga-chan) so I don't wanna spam.
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now i wonder what the pic was that made him so angry
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no this is the screenshot from the thread, apparently just a picture that exposes his forehead? https://twitter.com/madeingcf/status/1150393862688583680?s=19
The original Japanese posts about this are being sarcastic and mocking the trend. AFAIK the finger heart comes from a comedian anyway, not k-pop. Johnny Kitagawa invented nothing except using the entertainment industry for endlessly raping boys>>40303
It's a picture of J-Hope riding a rollercoaster that Korean armys mock, it's an extreme sore point apparently
Bringing this up again, but some anon were talking about Jungkook self-harming in the other thread and I looked a bit into it. https://twitter.com/velvetmoonchxld/status/1106260894357569537
It's from the official BTS story line book. If it's true, BH is fucked up for milking his situation. There's also a scene where Jungkook is about to jump off a roof at some point. I knew they included some real life events in their storyline (like Suga playing the piano or Jimin having abandonment issues) but this is just fucked up.
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looks his nose job made him cross eyed
Who's the comedian?>>40292
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I'm less bothered by him looking like literal shit than I am by him being such a pussy. Why is acting scared and whiny seen as so quirky and loveable in korea?
Call me sexist but why would young girks want a guy who acts like a baby on a fucking rollercoaster? That's just so unlikable and obnoxious. Please grow up or ditch that act.
(There are billions of such gifs, all of them are scared of literally everything…)
I wouldn’t know as much as you so I can only go off things like censored album covers, and how much skin and ”provocative” dance moves the girl groups would have available to be seen online.
I figure most of the Saudi ratmy fans’ parents might ”petition” or tell each other to not let their kids go
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this shit is so fucking ugly, it's almost worse than ig influencers and their extreme facetune-ing. the contacts, the white skin, the disappearance of the nose, the bright lips. i'm tired of coming across official pictures of idols looking like they came straight out of the rapture.
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vs this from what i'm assuming is the same concert
This is some scary ass shit>>40185
Lol wasn't EXO literally in Saudi Arabia early last year? Try harder ratmies. They're probably insecure because 90% of kpop boy bands have already done what they say BTS has accomplished for the first time
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Saw this on a random article. Fans say it's "sexy". Well no shit, it's terrifying.
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kek reminds me of this
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I'm surprised his stage makeup is "allowed" to be close to his skintone?
Besides editing apps, I feel like phones these days are built with automatic "whitening and blurring" filters so it probably looks "normal" if it's all you see on insta but it looks awful in any other context.
Between the bleaching, staying out of the sun as much as possible, and even blue stage lighting…idols look ill IRL.
I'm a former Shawol and a Taemin fan (Despite his many flaws, including being tone-deaf) and honestly, he looks awful and like he's dying.
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He just looks very pale, but not even in an unnatural way, it's clearly his real skin and not just chalky makeup.
I swear, so many of you say shit like "looks like dead" to anybody with white skin way too lightly…http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/07/rapper-b-free-issues-public-apology-to.html?m=1
He did that to mock them, right?
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I'm confused about the latest trend, how can anyone find this styling attractive? They look like bdsm slaves
At least it's not that popular anymore. Do you guys remember when a few years back every
boy group was wearing chokers? Dark times.
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I don’t know what is about idols portraying a child image but it makes my skin crawl.
This kid is from Produce 101.
He’s like 16 but they portray him like an 8 yo. I don’t know, it’s just so creepy to me. I know he is still young, but idk treat him like a teenager not like a literal child…
Hell fucking no. I disliked them before they got famous. Their music is the plainest shit ever even by kpop standards and appeals to an international audience who love a diet of plain garbage like 1D and Shitran, their woke brand/schtick is (beyond the bomb/memorial scandals) pathetic when they visit countries that behead women, none of them can sing but Jimin and V are really really bad (yet get praised as the best vocalists ever), and Jimin and Rats personalities are both pretty repulsive, nasty (Jimin threatening to beat up that little boy who worked on airplanes for teaching him how to do something) and cow-like among other things, so I would dislike them even if every ARMY dropped dead and they were obscure again>>40373
Pedophilia/neoteny agenda but hey they've done this shit with women forever so extending it to men is 'equality' I guess at least. They've done their research and have the baby Jiminfag market cornered
I think you're taking, ”Looking like he dying” too literally.
It's not ”omg Taeminnie is dying!!” but he looks like an ill shut in for the aesthetic of pale skin desirable in idol culture. Like how people say, ”You look tired” when someone looks especially awful to them on a certain day.
>>40377>none of them can sing
This is what what confuses me like they legit cannot sing. None of them.
I wouldn't be annoyed by the woke thing or their popularity if they had at least ONE legit capable singer in that group. But they're just personified mediocrity, even among kpop.
When I got into kpop I was still a teen so I listened to their cringey hip-hop concepts here and there but even then I didn't find them special so I just ended up watching their shows and stuff instead cause I that time I thought it was funny. I'm pretty sure many fans just like them for being memes too instead of being interested in the music.
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A lot of people say that the shinee members were overworking themselves to distract themselves from jonghyun's suicide - but does anybody else also get the impression that they're actually doing rather well (minus onew)? All of them are just doing their thing. Not as in "they never cared about him at all" but also not as in "they seem to be depressed because of it". They mourned and now have dealt with it.
I find it extremely uncomfortable, and I think it also affects actual children in the long run. It definitely can't be harmless to always see adults dress and act like children, those childlike things then get connected to adults and things adults do.
I've also always found it disturbing when western artists do it too, like melanie martinez, etc.>>40368
Some idols wearing actual dog collars too, not just little chokers lol
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I think it was like 2 years ago there he suddenly got very slim, but now he's bigger than ever and also posts workout videos. Either bighit finally allows him to do so, or he grew enough of a spine to no longer care what they say.
I think it's ridiculous, all his fangirls fawn over his muscles and strength and him having the upper hand over the olders, so why does his management keep pushing that baby persona onto him? >>40390>rat has the biggest thighs
??? Isn't he a mega lanklet?
Anyway, he's got no business judging anybody's looks. He's the type to make "quirky" faces in a pathetic attempt to hide how ugly he is lol
i think he lowkey despises the uwu baby treatment like how he was dying inside in >>39670
but he does't have the backbone to say no to anything armys want. i guess fans like the cringy cutesy image more than the buffed up look for some reason.
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Some farmers on /g/ speculated that he's actually into that baby shit lmao
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Not to mention that female idols including underage ones have also worn BDSM gear
weren't they speculating about that because guys doing shit like that is their
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That guy is literally one of the ugliest men I've ever seen. He looks like a human rodent.
No that guy is still in the competition.
This is the rodent. He got eliminated.
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It's just the current style trend, IMO even in Seoul fashion week people prove they just like looks like ”punk” only for the style. It’s just ”cool” like how hip hop gaudy shit was popular more around 2015 or so.
A harness is just an accessory, it's like they dress them up like a dominatrix and have them do babyfaces.
It's super weird, regardless, but I don't think it's BDSM-y at all and more it became popular because of people like Yeha giving idols merch.
he has long limbs but all the other members are pretty thin in comparison (other than jin/jhope last time i checked). >>40402
the fact that somi was 15 in this and that the wonyoung girl also wore some bdsm gear makes me feel uncomfortable
Yes, sorry for not clarifying>>40427
I don't think so, haven't seen anyone talking about more fansites being banned recently
The only thing blowing up in my tl right now is koreans pissed that the japanese army gets better treatment than them
Absolute cringe and I although I know it was a one off I hope they release more songs just to piss off other Kboos. Their tears of rage are hilarious.
video very much related
Agreed, they totally hide their emotions. Look at someone like Ariana Grande, Mac Miller passed away last fall and she still cannot preform songs without crying that are about him, let alone talk about it. I know people heal differently but damn, they are obviously working through the pain similarly to Ariana. (only using her as an example because it's a similar situation.)
Also, about BTS's show in Saudi Arabia. I saw a ton of posts on twitter saying "every country has their atrocities, it doesn't mean they're doing it for the government" and that's a verrrry weird argument to me. Yeah, every country is shitty to an extent but basic freedom is something that a lot of middle eastern countries lack. Freedom = having a choice. I think it's a stupid decision, any other artist going there would be ripped to shreds.
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anyone will throw their morals to the wind if you drive enough trucks of money up to them.
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Another day, another creepy face
I don't know if you're from the Middle East yourself (I am) but killing your daughters is kinda
common in many countries here. Some countries are
less conservative and women have more freedom and independence, and some families are very progressive too but the poor and/or religious families, especially those from rural areas are almost always conservative af. But that all depends on what country you're actually talking about; you can't talk for all the Middle Eastern countries
Saud Arabia might not "behead their daughters" but they still need a fucking shadow wherever they wanna go.
It's a pseudo-progressive country.
If anything, you're the one derailing>all those countries are misogynistic shitholes>islam is a trash religion
All those talk about the middle east are still kpop-related.
We're talking about how and why the Middle East isn't welcoming to kpop because of the whole bts thing but yeah sorry
let's continue nitpicking some irrelevant idols, it's what this thread loves the most anyway.
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Am I the only one who doesn’t get all the fuss about kpop dances/idols dancing.
I find them to be pretty basic and if you look closely the ones that are deemed good dancers actually are just enthusiastic/not lazy.
How is Jisoo so off compared to the other members? What she’s doing looks completely different from the other three. How embarrassing, she really should have just went into acting.>>40488
Because they think that BTS is above other pop artists, therefore BTS gets a free pass to look annoyed with and belittle other artists. But on the contrary, if BTS shows respect for another artist or collaborates with them, then their fans will say how BTS is so much better and how BTS did that artist a “favor” by collaborating. In the case of Western artists, they emphasize how BTS needs to “stay away” from the partying/drugs/lifestyle that the Western artist has because BTS is apparently incapable of making those decisions themselves and aren’t grown adult men. They’re either babies or they’re sex-god musical geniuses far ahead of their time.
holy fuck those convulsions. jisoo really is talentless.>>40488
kek there are people in the comments suggesting that BTS don't like Puth because he's a trump supporter lmao.
Is she the only one who had no prior dance experience? I feel like she was supposed to be an actress but somehow ended up being an idol…>>40492
How are they gonna explain the collab then?
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>Charlie Puth, likely lying like any male celebrity: 175cm
>Jungkook, likely wearing insoles: 178cm…???
i also don't understand either anon. kbooz always brag about how kpop is so much better than other genres because of the performances but anytime you see a fancam instead of a music show shot without all the silly cutting and editing you can tell just how lack-luster and bad it is, and how clearly none of them have much passion for the performance and its just another day of doing so. and then kbooz like to go around and shit on some artists who "just stand around and sing" when their oppars "are superrr talented and can dance crazy and sing well!!11!! so what's their excuse??/?" like no… they sound like donkey shit without all the auto tuning and back tracking.
sorry i just also think the need for literally every song to be choreographed is just so stupid, but then again what other excuse are they gonna use for sounding like shit when they can't use "being out of breath" as one? i would rather watch ariana grande run around in her stupid little skirts and heels before i would want to watch most kpop concerts.
Well Rose has the title of being the group's main vocal, but what ever YG vocal trainer she's working with needs to be fired. In this pre-debut song she sounds alright and I can understand why she was chosen to be in the group. However, she sounds like a dying goat nowadays and it's getting worse with every performance. I feel like she was given the Park Bom treatment were she was forced to change to sound to be more "unique," wich has actually just made her unbearable to listen to.
The comments on any video regarding Rose's old vocals even have the most seemingly hardcore BLINKs unable to deny that she sucks now.
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Sometimes Vivi looks good and normal and times she looks off and weird
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ew jimin looks disgusting in their most recent tweet, what's new
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He used to look cute before all the ps and makeup. His lips weren't even thin to start with so idk why they gave him so much fillers.
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Lip fillers? His lips used to be a complex he had to get over, right? I think if anything it’s the light lip makeup and trying to whiten himself to the extreme. I swear you can see darker patches at the back of his neck…
Out of anything I’d say he got his nose straightened, he also is an adult man now and his face is broader/filled out. Add in the extra weight/muscle he has now and he is almost a different person.
I wonder though, if his face bloats extremely easy on weight rebound or he gets face fillers. He looks “puffy” all the time.
I agree with this, you can be critical in a good way as well. I think it’d actually do this thread some good to actually have conversations about idols and save us from Ratmy dialogue.
I was extremely surprised by YooA with her facial control while dancing. Oh My Girl has always been incredibly boring to me and seeing YooA here made me think “Now this is how an idol should be”. I was impressed by her singing on King of masked singer (because of her being the main dancer). I think if she went solo she’d be extremely
successful. IMO she has the looks, body, charisma, dance skills, and vocals other idols pretend to have.
Anons, which idols do you feel are held back by their group?
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seulgi. she has a pretty voice and she's a good dancer. wendy is a better singer than her, but wendy just isn't idol material imo. she's too awkward. the other 3 rv members are useless.
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Amber is no longer SM and doesn't even live in SK anymore. why tf she doesn't come out already… i dont get it
Wendy's voice is somewhere between "okay" and "not bad" IMO and if she was able to sing between her limited range (on the lower side, but when she can't go lower she does that weird Britney Spears gurgle/growl (Not sure how else to describe it) and is clearly straining on the high notes-which is bad for her because she's clearly straining to a Taylor Swift song of all things.
She lived in Canada, she's always gotten mocked for having "foreign genes that make her fat" like that has anything to do with actual dieting/eating healthy.
I find most people don't like Wendy at all, even cropping her out of pictures.
The only thing people like about her is her weight loss, no wonder she's fading away. Kind of sad.
Agreed. WME (company of OMG/B1A4/ONF, for people who only keep up with the bigger companies) is aware of it, too, considering how she’s gotten hosting gigs and even a lead voice acting job. But I wonder how she’d fare coming from a smaller company—Chungha had the hype of Produce 101 to back her solo career and IU is an anomaly. And WME has a shit record with their one female solo act, I (her actual stage name).>>40567
As much as I like some of Red Velvet’s output, Seulgi really shines in spite of her group.
I can’t really think of any other outstanding members, but I can think of some groups that can only exist as a plurality.
Nothing against Gfriend, but none of the members speak to me as idols who would succeed solo. A lot of their strength as performers is how they dance as a unit. A lot of bordering-on-nugu groups are like this, too, where there’s a bunch of middling to above average members all having to cover for each other’s weaknesses. It’s the benefit of Kpop, imo.
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Not lips filler i mean, sorry. They gave him so much fillers on the other areas of his face, that it became bloated and doesn't match his already thick lips. He looks like a puffer fish now.
Yeah she didn't leave SM, but she does live in LA now.
Also, she's christian. So to answer the first anon: maybe she has some deep self-hate
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I can understand if he got face fillers because his face hallowed out so
much during Ace era, but he also seems to have just grown up…think Leonardo DiCaprio.
Jeez, she needs to tone down the photoshop. >>40594
Leonardo really was a hottie in his youth.
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I honestly don't think Taemin got anything done (minus botox, like probably all idols).
Some say he was ana, but to me he just looked like many other lanky teen boys. He was just 14 when he debuted, that was over a decade ago, so of course his face has matured a lot. His nose does seem slightly different, but maybe he simply hadn't grown into his features yet and it just fits his bigger adult face better now.
I'm more interested to know whether he's gay or not. Jut recently I saw an old interview there a male fan hugged him and he said "But I like women"…>>40579
What do you expect from retarded (adult)children?
Insult bts - get fired, bts is rude - "Sassy kings!" To them saying that their Oppars are ugly is far worse than them making "jokes" about the dead.
No normie korean would recognize any of the bts members individually, sm groups are way more popular with the general public, but of course that doesn't matter to them, because all that counts is that their oppars have more twitter followers lol
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Yet another yg artist dipped. I honestly hate one's music but he's still sort of cool, I'm glad he left.
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It'd be weird if someone like Leo got jaw surgery, etc to stay how he looked when he was younger but I feel it's so expected of idols it's easy to forget a lot of changes (especially in men) happen.
Just for fun, Leonardo visits Gangnam
Thanks for the laugh anon kek>>40608
It's just one clip of him doing fanservice, that doesn't mean anything.
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lol you should've chosen one where he has no beard cause they hate facial hair.
But a lot of Korean girls are a huge fan of young Leo's looks.
I can't believe people there think Vernon looks like him
Him looking and acting like a fag?
The ones who try to deny it the most are always suspicious. >>40613
Saying ratmies are subhuman for making fun of somebody commiting suicide =/= being a stan. Neither is stating your opinion about whether somebody got ps or not. Quit overreacting.
Not to wk Wendy but watching a few of their live performances I feel like she's the only one who looks happy and not dead when performing.
Both of them really carry the group.
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I get so mad when idols who obviously had ps deny it. This dude literally is the representation of dorito chin…
I only saw this.
What else did he do or say?
NTA but Taemin's said all kinds of stuff about thinking women from Europe are gorgeous, and always names white actresses or models as his ideal type. I thought everyone just kind of knew that's his thing.
There were a few Korean blind items about some kpop boyband member who exclusively dates white women too that everyone assumed was him. I assume half the blind items I read are made up or exaggerated though.
>>40577>none of the members speak to me as idols who would succeed solo
You have a point but tbh it's hard to tell which idol will succeed as soloists and which won't. Sunmi never stood out in Wonder Girls but is arguably the most successful out of all of them today. Chungha was overshadowed by Somi in IOI, while Somi was the star of her group but is being outdone by her backup dancers today. Taeyeon is an average performer but her songs did extremely well.
It all depends on whether the idol gets a public-friendly song and concept that plays to their strengths, so they feel comfortable pulling it off.
Bts too always named american actresses as their ideal types - but nevertheless ratmies claim that they hate all white people.
Musicians in Japan only use white models in their videos to avoid their local fans getting jealous (She's just a foreigner visiting? There's no way she could ever marry him!), so maybe kpop idols do that to, name somebody who everybody knows will never get with them. It's not like they can just say they like some other female idol.
Well, I must have missed that.
I still don't think that Taemin or anybody saying he likes a white celebrity means he has a fetish for them. That's kboos wishful thinking
I thought she had lowkey left SM because the business contact linked in her ig is from some American entertainment company (steelwool), no mention of SM at all. >>40584
welp that's sad
I do think they find western women desirable but probably not for anything serious.
You'll find white women even in Korean mvs but it's usually for sexual scenes or something.
But I feel like bts has always been careful with the ideal type thing. They don't wanna upset fans, especially now that they've blown up so they just name random American celebrities and they're not the only boy group doing this.
Even girl groups do this if they wanna avoid the question. The responses really depend on the idol and their company.
>>40640>so sorry if it ruined your fantasy of marrying oppa
That makes zero sense? Most of us are white here lol
You insisting that he's totez into white girls makes you sound more of a shinee/taeminfag than the ones saying that it's not a big deal.
Sorry for not being a stan googling all my oppars ideal types /s
I just happened to see an english interview with BTS there they named I think Lily Collins and Rachel McAdams.
ngl those are some good choices. >>40634
some people think they're true
I feel like kpop actually is walking backwards regarding this. Until 2013-2015ish idols were always asked those questions in variety shows and there were even games in which the boy had to seduce the girl and vice-versa. Nowadays seems like idols don't aknowledge each others' existences on camera.
As for bangtan for example I remember Jungkook always answering his ideal type was IU. I remember them picking Red Velvet as the gg they wanted to be closer with in several occasions too.
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Anyway, if we're all done sperging about how oppa would never fuck an evil white bitch, Time put BTS on some list about "influential internet celebrities" (translation: people whose fans chimp out on social media the most) and ratmies are reacting with their usual humility and poise.
The joke is BTS songs are incredibly tame in their social commentary. A song aimed at teenagers that talks about how it's good to be yourself and how it's bad when people feel bad? Wow, revolutionary. Never been done before. Certainly not the message of every Disney channel special ever made.
BTS songs all sound like that song Cody Ko made about not doing bad things, except BTS aren't being ironic.
Not wking but I think the only reason why Victoria is in China is bc Chinese idols can't work in Korea. Plus SM could of been given f(x) a comeback they just don't give a fuck about them.
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It's amazing how good they're at burying the fact that BTS will play in a kingdom ruled by a dictator those population has about zero human rights. Seriously, there's the backlash???
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The stadium they'll perform in has only allowed women to enter since 2017(!) and now oppars will fill this place with only girls and lgbtq!
isn't that amazing?!
And then all these dumb stans say bullshit like "But the US is even more homophobic!" It's not about homophobia, it's about people getting beheaded for the basically nothing. https://mobile.twitter.com/gallerygguk/status/1150481994800873472
I hope Jimin pulls his usual whiny faces.
>I really want to meet the person who told Nicky that women in Saudi Arabia have no rights..it’s all lies we are happy with our life style and if there was one or two bit* who hate there life and hate there own country and start to till shi about it that doesn’t mean it’s true
Like the bitches who get whipped for the crime of getting gangraped?
What's wrong with people, why is nobody doing something against this? They're supposed to be UN ambassadors.
They're all basically bragging and orgasming about them being 'first foreign group to perform in SA'. After the Nicki Minaj shitstorm I saw being instigated by mainly ~~woke~~ ratmys, they show their true colors. Some of them are even using the excuse that BTS are UN ambassadors therefore are ~bringing tolerance to Saudi~~ while other pop stars just want to make money
Offtopic I also love how i-fans post things like "imagine hating kpop being your entire personality" yet all their twitter feeds are is literally talking about ONE SINGLE GROUP from kpop endlessly
I find this whole thing so strange and disgusting.
It reminds me of all the western celebrities who used to perform for the gaddafi family and other terrible people.
I wouldn't be surprised if some fucking prince or something asked for a private concert of a female group in the near future and then a bunch of twitter stans start shipping them or bragging about it.
This shit is peak liberalism/liberal feminism
Like you probably. And >>40608
, >>40579>inb4 b-but you have no way of knowing that they're/I'm white
mysides.jpg see the way >>40664
immediately cried racebait when someone brought attention to it
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SEAchans are now claiming they have photo evidence of Lisa and Jungkook. Here is their photo evidence: a blurry photo of some random people.
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Someone made a twitter account pretending to be @OH_mes2 (translates Korean entertainment news). The fake account posted a tweet saying Jimin tried to commit suicide and army twitter is sperging, even going to the extent of sending the actual OH_mes2 death threats kek.
Pic is from the fake twt account.
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Comment from the real OH_mes2
>>40615>Saying ratmies are subhuman for making fun of somebody commiting suicide =/= being a stan. Neither is stating your opinion about whether somebody got ps or not. Quit overreacting.>Telling others to quit overreacting while being this defensive
Nice job making yourself even more obvious than >>40610
. Either shut up about how your oppars are ~not like other idols~ or go gush about them over at kpg.
he got upset over someone posting an ugly jhope pic >>40299
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He's still very young, I hope he has good people around him…but how am I supposed to interpret this?
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It seems rather their ideal type is Sleeping Beauty
Idols are shaped into whatever their company decides and end up like sociopaths from being so segregated from any normal human reaction, the idea of anyone genuinely wanting to date
let alone marry is terrifying.
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Anons.. it's finally happening. Do you guys think he will face actual jail time?
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Just saw this on twitter plus some replies of people giving kpop fans a troll
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I wonder if the delusional kboos defending him will stop flooding Han Seohee with hate comments now.
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jesus fucking christ i don't know if i should laugh or if i should cry
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not gay oops
https://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/07/police-continue-with-lee-minwoos.html>Police continue with Lee Minwoo's investigations after determining CCTV showed evidence of harassment
So, he definitely did it? If the police continue investigating even though the charges were dropped by the women it must mean that what was shown on the CCTV is "obvious".
Please god, make that Jungkook was still with him when it happened.
> [+3,490, -107] So the police are moving forward with their investigation of Lee Minwoo even after the charges were dropped while people have been petitioning for Burning Sun to be properly investigated and we've been hearing crickets. What kind of country is this?> [+78, -19] The best replies are not being logical. Just because Burning Sun isn't being properly investigated doesn't mean Lee Minwoo's scandal should be passed too.
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Sorry for samefagging.https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/07/theqoo-idols-who-sold-40k-albums-in.html>IDOLS WHO SOLD 40K ALBUMS IN THEIR 1ST WEEK SALES, AND 90K ALBUMS IN TOTAL BUT HAD AN EMPTY VENUE ON YES24
It's about Ateez. Hopefully lots of i-stans see this. You liking and hyping up a group means nothing. It only misleads them into believing that they can be successful.
didn't this piece of shit release a statement saying that it was a misunderstanding? he's fucking disgusting.
also, burning sun should be properly investigated, but it doesn't mean lee minwoo shouldn't be, like that knet said. why the fuck the first comment have so many likes as if lee minwoo is a saint?
Yes he did. Anons in this thread speculated at the time that the victims
were paid off by BigHit as Jungcook was there with him that night, and they probably don't want him to be associated.
Meanwhile seungri is still roaming around and all those old disgusting higher-ups, whose faces remain hidden, are probably exchanging their next victims
as we speak. This will never stop with shitty, corrupt lawmakers who don't care about women and are keen on protecting the rich.
He's supposedly in this group https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/97-line-friendship-group-new-member/
But I think all of these 9x-line groups are all just publicity stunts.
He acts so autistic in that video. I have a feeling that bighit is already preparing for making him a big solo star, but there's just no way he's able to function alone. Some idols who debuted early came out altright (Suzy, Taemin,…) but he seems too mentally weak for that.
If he wasn't so rich, I'd nearly feel a bit sorry for him.
>>40757>But I think all of these 9x-line groups are all just publicity stunts.
me too anon, there's multiple groups of "friends" for each of the years it seems like. supposedly jin is in one too with whatever age bracket he's in. honestly i think the majority of kpop friendships that get media-hyped are mostly pr like they do in hollywood.
also noticed jungkook was in like one photo with them in that article kek
speaking of socially-awkward-loner-baby-boi-uwu jungkook, wasn't there one time he was on a show and he got everyone on there hamburgers or something and the cast ridiculed them and refused to eat them, all on camera, with jungkook making a visibly dejected facial expression? i know we talked about it like 20 threads ago but i still full body cringe thinking about it LOL
not trying to armchair him and shit but it's possible that he actually might be socially retarded because of dropping out of school at like 14 and growing up around the ratmy insanity and members who are all years older than him.
jimin and him would probably do the best as soloists but they both come off as too mentally unstable to perform on their own. jimin is already having mental breakdowns after every other performance. bts is such a trainwreck.
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i'm the anon you responding to, and honestly idk. it's been so long since it happened but i'm pretty sure they were just being rude and displaying their superiority, idk. the cast tried to play it off as if they were joking and weren't serious about it but it was obvious that it was mean-spirited, especially when jungkook looked so upset. i might be remembering it wrong bc i rarely watch anything bts related i just remember this event happening.https://www.allkpop.com/article/2016/06/jo-se-ho-responds-to-criticism-for-his-rude-behavior-toward-jungkook-and-kim-min-suk
allkpop article on the cast trying to downplay it.
Tinfoil, but what if Bighit and BTS are so impossible to work with that they got so frustrated that they took all their anger out on him?
Both Janghoon and Seho are popular and definitely not known for being harsh like other mcs, so them suddenly acting like that is really odd.
Or they simply didn't want to accept the burgers "he personally bought!!!" because they knew it was just an obvious and cheap way of painting himself like the good kid.
Or, even more major tinfoil lol, what if it was all an act to make him out to be the victim
(something ratmies love) and the others simply got no choice but to comply and as a result get all the hate?
No matter what, in the end it got him a lot of positive publicity.
YG is going down, down, down, down, down.
If GD leaves the company when he finishes his military service, it will be officially over, right?
Tbh when I saw it first time, I was kinda sorry for him and maybe it just me, but I'm not buying that all ''because they knew it was just an obvious and cheap way of painting himself like the good kid.''
Like - why? What's the point? They knew BTS have crazy fans. It was in 2016, I don't think Bighit had so much power then anyway
Hyeri's latest scandal is kind of ridiculous. If a celeb were to promote something dumb on a show in America, no one would bat an eye, which is why I feel like people are just looking for more reasons to hate her.
Does anyone else feel kind of bad for celebrities in Korea? It takes one scandal and a couple of antis to make the public hate you forever. Some celebrities have immunity, like Lee Byung Hun who fucking cheated on his wife and is still getting praise for his most recent projects, including Mr. Sunshine.
I don't know much about Hyeri but it does look super ridiculous. if the show had such an issue with it they could've just cut it out.>>40805
well judging by their wikipedia pages it doesn't look like their careers took a hit. they probably knew what they were getting into but just didn't care.
Not surprised, Jennie has definitely worn real animal fur and didn't bat an eye.>>40809
Dolphins in captivity will "love" humans because they're Stockholm Syndrome'd to oblivion. Don't most people know this?Fucking idiots, I wish kpop fans would just admit when their biases fucked up. Then again these days it's too much to ask for people not to support their confirmed rapist oppa.
Honestly, doing this is not ideal, but I can't bring myself to judge them for this when we currently have BTS taking money from one of the worst countries on the entire planet without batting an eye…
Girl group scandals are always nothing in comparison to what their male counterparts do, prime example >>40804
I looked a bit more into this and most ratmies argue that Nicki Minaj rightfully got backlash because she was invited and funded by the government, meanwhile BTS have organised it on their own.
But on the other hand, their stans also write that the s.korean president has a deal with the king, meaning it definitely will take place (some were worried about it getting cancelled).
Super Junior also performed there and looks like their fans really are only the highest upper class. https://www.worldofbuzz.com/super-junior-receives-money-rolex-watches-and-even-gold-as-gifts-from-saudi-fans/
I wonder how many of their suitors are gay men wanting some asian twinks… lol
well they can both be problematic
but yeah that Nicki Minaj excuse was dumb. Plus people are saying BTS was invited by the government anyways. I'm not surprised about Super Junior since this isn't the first time SM has involved their idols in stuff like this. I was surprised Stray kids went though. It seems like a random choice tbh.
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both sides saying it’s messed up means they are the victims..make it make sense
Uh, that bite ended up killing the woman and the dog didn't even get put down .. he earned a lot of money from selling merch with the dog on as well.
Saying knets are overreacting is kind of weird anon.
I can sympathize with that other SJ member who was forced to leave the group because he got married, but Siwon didn't handle that case very well.
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Jhope shall age like a grape
if you squint a little bit he kind of looks like jimin with a few wrinkles kek>>40804
apparently it was because that show had a specific "no advertising rule" for people who come on the show, is supposedly what people were saying, so she "broke" that rule by sliding in a comment about her sister's store. still a ridiculous scandal, especially for someone who was so loved by the k-netz.
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Okay, this "insert tragedy
wouldn't happen if you've stan loona" thing gets my blood boil to be fucking honest.
I mean, this fucking degenerates spams every single news concerning people's death and I don't know if they were genuine idiots or just trolls. I was just scrolling through the news about kyoani's arsonist attack were more than two dozen of people died and then what? I'll saw this fucking idiots saying this dumb bullshit. K-pop stans really needs to get mentally treated or something. They are so fucking annoying I swear to God if their idols died in a horrible way I'll make a twitter account just so I could say "insert idol name
wouldn't have died if you stanned God" or something just to piss them off too the same way they were pissing me off now.
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Yeah, they'd probably get along well
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Stans keep on being self destructive
What amuses me is that ratmies unironically fight over who is the "dom" and the "sub" in ther boys relationships…
Meanwhile the highlight of their sex life was probably some prostitute taking their virginity lol
The whole industry crawling to 'one up' or even compare to this one group is turning kpop into a mess. Everyone is becoming way too auto tuned and fake deep, even the nugu groups are being pushed to appeal to i-fans.
Honestly I wish more companies took the risk to release/focus on groups such as Dreamcatcher.
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88rising has worked with jay park, zion.t and cl. ikon and jackson will perform in their festival. iirc lisa and rap monster are into joji's music. i won't be surprised if we see more interactions with them and k-pop idols in the future. especially yg idols might work with the via teddy.
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>On the July 19th episode, Seunghee read a malicious comment that said, "You're ugly, so just shut up. I can't stand looking at your snaggle tooth," and replied, "I don't accept this. I still think my snaggle tooth is a charm I have."
>As for a comment that said, "I guess anyone can try to be an idol," the Oh My Girl member said, "Anyone can try to become an idol, but not everyone can become one. If you have the confidence, you should try becoming an idol too."
idk does she really have the right to come and say these things when it is obvious that the netizens have won because she altered her face so much (even her debut face was an altered version) and she paints the job of an idol as some high-skill job requiring lots of specialization when all it really needs is a hunger for fame and being a whore for attention and being able to listen to assholes trying to put down your individual charms and telling you to lose weight
i mean backup singers and dancers are more skilled than them - idols really are nothing but empty commercials for things the higher ups want to sell but idols themselves can't see it and think of themselves as ever-so-important artistes
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it really is hypocritical to take the comments of netizen and adhering to them to make yourself prettier and then coming out on tv looking like a discount IU and reprimanding the netizens; if she would've kept her ugliness and then come out on tv and say these stuff it would've been brave and "slaying" as the commentators are saying
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Was anyone else disappointed by the final lineup for Produce x 101? Also the group name is called X1.
Is this a memory game? Cause there's no way that number 4 and number 6 aren't the same 10-year-old little boy.
They first guy has the broadest nose bridge I've ever seen, number 3 is downright scary looking and all the others are such a bland and unforgetable mess. Last guy has to be a robot. Holy photoshop.
I don't find Daniel attractive either, same for the others, but at least they stood out in a way (and looked like actual adults).
Who's supposed to be a leader in this pic?
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I’m still not over Hyuna’s unnecesary lip fillers…
Is that really a korean thing? But every country had this kind of production-series and milked it to no end. At least in europe… Maybe korea is superlate with this, but nearly no country let this die out soon enough.
Anyway, creepy lineup and also a sign of the korean trend: super younglooking (or literally young…? how old are these guys…?), overly PSed kids, thrown in a group with to many people with generic songs, which sounds all the same.
Five of them are born in 2002 and one in 2004…
And one guy is suuuper old, because he's from 94.
It’s always the loona fags who do this shit, they’re also the most toxic
gg stans on twitter. I guess they’re just bitter their faves flopped.
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any nctzens care to explain what's going on in the background of this video? I could be reaching but it sounds about like some girl is getting fucked/slapped. listen closely.
They don't look like they were in a hotel or somewhere private anon.
It looks like they were inside a waiting room in a music show and someone probably got hurt in the knees or something and gasp outloud.
Plus, who would want to fuck in front of two imbeciles doing retarded aegyo? If it was me my boner would have cringed and shrivel into a clitoris and I would need to live as a woman since.(male)
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This news is from a few days ago. Just how stupid could fans be to sponsor these fucktards (or technically, their fans) so they could win.
>On July 18, many netizens noticed that fans of several trainees are having special voting event. For those residing in Korea, you get to vote for only one trainee by sending a text to Mnet. You can only vote once with one phone number.
>For example, if you vote for a particular trainee and screenshot the proof, you can get to a chance to win prizes such as round trip ticket to Hawaii, Apple Mac Book Pro, iPad and many more.
>Fans of TOP Media’s Kim WooSeok are giving away 2100 prizes in exchange for voting for him!
>Kim WooSeok’s fans are giving away a pair of ticket to Hawaii to 1 winner! The winner will get to stay for 6 days in Hawaii with pickup services to and fro from the airport and hotel. Needless to say, one of their other huge prizes is also LG Styler S5MB that costs more than 2 million won about USD1700 and above.
>As for fans of TOP Media’s Lee JinHyuk, they are giving away 2157 free gifts!
>It includes the choice between an Apple Mac Book pro or LG Gram, 24K pure gold bar, iPhone XS 256GB, iPad 6th generation 128GB, and many more. Some other gifts also include Baskin Robbins and Starbucks coupons.
>Fans of OUI’s Kim YoHan are also not losing out as they also have many attractive prizes for those who vote for him!
>You can also actually win a 3 days 2 night trip to Singapore with accommodation at the luxury Marina Bay Sands hotel. In addition, you also get free ticket to Universal Studios Singapore. Needless to say, they also have prizes like MacBook Air, iPhone and iPad.
>Many netizens were amazed and stunned by the support these trainees are receiving. They were also very surprised to see how much money the fans have in order to try and ‘lure’ people to vote for the trainees.
>Of course, these are not the only 3 trainees with such support from their fans. Other fans for the rest of the top 20 trainees are also doing similar events.https://www.kpopmap.com/fans-are-giving-round-trip-ticket-to-hawaii-ipad-and-more-if-you-vote-for-these-produce-x-101-trainees/
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why do they keep giving jennie this pigtails hairstyle? it doesn't look good at all
This is so extreme, is there proof the fans are able to give those prizes away? Is it just pooled Fanclub money?
I wonder if any of the trainees are the ones who put up for prizes? I wouldn't be surprised at all.
I was thinking more like parents, IMO the company hardly cares who wins because it's Produce is just an idol machine where the "most popular" is chosen.
Fewer decisions for who's going to be best marketed, like if American Idol had worked properly.
he is right, hope some people on kpop twitter have seen it and did some self reflection.
stan is one of the best songs eminem wrote imo and the song is quite depressing. i don't understand why people unironically use that word to refer to themselves because it's not a healthy personality trait you'd want to have at all. they are mad at sasaengs but they're all just as psycho as them and would probably act like them if they had their money and met their faves.
>>41037>don't know if it was already universally known already and I was just ignorant
It was. And kpoppies weren't the first ones to start using it the way it's used now, western pop fans were.
Not clicking because cr1tikal is shit and he looks like a literal caveman now.
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>born August 2005 and dec 2004
What do you guys think of the new 13 and 14 year old kpop stars? Personally I think it's gross especially with the poses
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As awful as Japanese loli idols are, at least they look underage so only gross ass pedos would find them sexy etc, kpop idols are styled so much more mature you can't sometimes tell if someone is well underage and I think that's also incredibly predatory. I mean I had no idea Yuna from Itzy was only 15.
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There was a girl on Idol School where named Eunkyul born in 2005, but when the show was airing she was only 12 years old. It was extra weird because the guy that produced this show was the same one who refereed to produce as "healthy porn."
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So MNET basically rigged the final lineup of PD X 101 so that a guy who was #3 going in to the finale didn’t make it in to the final group (which was from #1 to #10). They didn’t let him (Jinhyuk, or Wei from Up10tion) debut simply because there was another guy from the same group who was obviously going to be the center (but they rigged that too and gave him 2nd place, lmfao). Their rigging was very, very obvious. There’s a few posts on pann-choa of how they added votes from other guys to create the number of votes for the ones who were rigged. It’s so blatant—even if you didn’t watch the show, you’ll laugh when you see how obvious the numbers are.https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/07/enter-talk-you-must-read-this-its-true.html?m=1
It sucks for the other kids but I feel bad for Jinhyuk because Up10tion has far too many members (a number of them not attractive at all) and as seen with I.O.I, people are not going to stan a group with like two members out of 10 that were from the survival program. Picture attached is of Up10tion. If I was an exec I would not let a group exceed 7 members, and looks would definitely matter—I mean, if you want to turn up a profit.
I always forget that idols like Krystal, Sulli, and Suzy were like 14-15 when they debuted (video related) because they styled idols so much older back then. Not to say that it isn't disturbing in hindsight because one could definitely argue the more mature styling of the late 00s allowed for even more underage sexualization.
with modern idols (wonyoung, yuna, these girls), I find it creepy how much more transparent the companies have become with sexualization of these minors, it's nothing new but in a post IOI world where it's okay for 14-17 year olds to wear bondage gear as a concept, I'm not even surprised.
Oh and male idols are also subject to this underage sexualization, looking at the new X1 lineup and half of them are fuckin fetuses…
it's sad that an idol is considered "old" when they hit their mid twenties as if their appeal somehow dries up the moment they start looking like actual adults. Or they're chided if they look young at an older age and want to escape the sexualized concepts they've been forced into
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Does anyone have any milk on Jaejoong? He’s pretty lowkey nowadays, seems like he spends a lot of time in Japan. JYJ is likely done for.
I’ve always found him attractive, esp around Mirotic era, but he went overboard with the plastic surgery and got a freakish jaw shave and eye enlargement. But if you’re going to reply to this, please contribute something about him and don’t sperg about his plastic surgery. We already know that he went far overboard.
she looks really fucking young there and they've got her pretending to lick a baseball bat
also, she doesn't really seem to have any rhythm there
I remember reading the opposite. His bio mom came forward when he was famous and said that his name was "Han" but he disregarded the name and kept using his "Kim" family name. Apparently ever since then he's spent time with both of his mothers, adopted and bio. I literally just googled this though, so I can't say this is all accurate except I found it on a fanpage of his.
That's still pretty rough though, I vaguely remember hearing that TVXQ members had it hard growing up–especially Jaejoong and Yunho.
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>>41044>mfw i think of my born in 2004 sister as a baby which i need to protect and now there's idols even younger than that
Fuck, why? The average young teen is super ugly, they literally only do that for the pedo appeal.>>41065
It's the opposite. He said his adoptive family is his "real" one.
It was mentioned before already, but him and the other tvxq members were so poor growing up and then had to work really hard. It makes me resent Jennie and the likes even more, seeing as they already got to wear gucci predebut and blew up despite minimal effort. >>41082
You forgot to mention that they got busted surgery and are completely irrelevant now…
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pretty much every 2nd gen female idol has gotten botched plastic surgery at this point except for suzy who is still really pretty
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I think it was alcohol and/or drugs that fucked with appearance more than surgery tbh. There was something straight up wrong with him for a while.
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Samefag as above but even real jaejoong doesnt look like Jaejoong© . That shit was sculpted by SM. And idk about drugs or alcohol every idol abuses them… But his extremo jaw shaves and nose alterations make him look like an alien. So PS does have a huge hand in it.
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naw its BBC when they went for the lunatics. They wanted the stay at home mentally ill social justice catladies they got em.
Those pictures put a smile on my face. My younger sister's best friend is adopted, and her mother treats her like a queen.
I'm actually surprised TVXQ is still producing music. Considering that many of their contemporaries have ventured off to new things, their success is quite unprecendented.
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Hwasa beat Jennie in a brand ranking and Blinks lost their mind
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Imagine being this hurt by something that doesn’t effect you in the slightest
ya ya twit twit twit twit
i dont like it, nobody like it
I saw the ranking and Jennie is in like 5th place anyway. Why only go after Hwasa? Idk if it's a mamamoo stan meme but apparently she really has been killing it for a while now
Jennie has never ever been an 'it girl'
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Or when they attacked Cupcakke with all sorts of racial slurs, simply because she was oogling at one of the members. Isn't that what Armys do anyways? It isn't a matter of "profanity" either, because Armys themselves write the nastiest fanfics and post gay porn clips with "#vkook" or "#btsnsfw" as if the members can't see that.
Pretty sure also that when Cupcakke did try to kill herself for unrelated reasons later on, Armys and other kpop fans (like Loona fans) pulled that whole "You wouldn't be suicidal if you listened to [kpop group]" bullshit.
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Hyuna's been looking like a sleep paralysis demon recently. Who needs to raid Area 51 when you can see a real life alien in South Korea?
>>41176>Lowkey it is sad how she keeps getting passed over for Jennie
Not really. Her vocals have gone downhill by a notable amount since her pre-debut days and she's not super charismatic. Jennie might be a lazy bitch but at least you can tell she's genuine, whereas Rose always comes off as fake to an almost cringeworthy extent.
>if they don't have a comeback or a non-Jennie solo this year, they're kinda over.
kek not gonna happen. Their YG backing is too strong and they've already solidified themselves as one of the biggest girl groups of third generation idols. Blackpink could literally come back with a song where they make fart noises and a performance where they roll around on stage and it would still chart well–and I'm not even joking.
Same anon. Well, I mean genuine in the sense that she doesn't try to hide how lazy and cold she can be oftentimes. It's a stretch to call her one of the most genuine idols out there and that's not what I was trying to imply by the way. Rose has been caught faking her voice and persona on too many occasions.
Just to be clear, not a fan of either but wanted to say how I can see how Rose is unpopular aside from YG not giving a fuck.
>>41187>Just to be clear, not a fan of either but wanted to say how I can see how Rose is unpopular aside from YG not giving a fuck.
with the risk of sounding like a ggfag, no one in bp is unpopular. they're all insanely overhyped and rosé is no exception, you just notice jennie and lisa stans more because they're the most deranged and jisoo is known for being the most popular in sk since she fits korea's beauty ideal. rosé got a lot of hype after coachella despite being a horrible vocalist, which just brings out how overhyped every single one of them are.
none of them are talented yet they're hyped as goddesses and handed everything on a silver platter. i honestly don't blame other gg stans for being bitter, at least some ggs have somewhat talented members and they're always worked to the bone too. no idea why bp blew up.
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yeri i think is barely twenty but her face and skin already looks so haggard and lifeless it is like she is 30 or something
being a kpop idol - not even once
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The groups are definitely going to get younger and younger, especially in Korea since idol ggs are over when they're 25 and older. Not only that, but they look like clones.
She has no personality beyond being the uwu indie-loving chick and sings like a frog; being "nice" is all she has going for her and that's really not a unique trait.
She's unpopular because she's utterly forgettable, simple as that.
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THIS is what bad skin looks like kek
this ain't even that bad lmfao. i get yall got hate boners for everyone in this shitty industry but nitpicking random normal shit isn't gonna make you less ugly lol >>41214
this thread has literally gone to shit cause of you autistic idiots. there's so much shit to post about yet you nitpick this shit.
I'm the anon that posted the pic but I also agree that realistically speaking his skin is pretty normal. I was being sarcastic because it's such a stark contrast to what kpop companies want their fans to believe; the illusion that K-pop idols have perfect smooth skin.
I got nothing against imperfect skin lol
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Has Yeri's face always looked this fucked up?
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It looks very asymmetrical but it's clearly the editing, what the fuck is that blur
Honestly, besides the forehead implant I don't think she's got anything else done. And actually she has facial features that are deemed attractive in Korea, like big round eyes and a smaller pointier jaw the only issue is that her face is incredibly asymmetrical, you can have features that are deemed attractive but if you don't have facial symmetry it's over.
Also, did SM go easier on their diets? I know they used to follow Wendy around and not let her eat food. It seems like both Wendy and Joy are at a healthier weight now.
Looks like Korean and Japan are in a trade war right nowhttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/07/netizens-demand-sm-cancel-exos.html
>it's their problem once Japan goes "no Korea" again and their "hallyu" sales drop to less than half of what they were lmao
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God I can't stand it when people say Jennie is sexy. In what world? She's in her 20s but she always looks like a child to me
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So ratmies feel violated because their oppars were shoved to the k pop category instead of competing with other pop stars equally. They were now bombarding VMAs for being racist.
To be honest, lumping kpop artists who strictly sings korean to a western music award is honestly idiotic. Latin singers didn't say bullshit when they were made separate categories. Japanese artists like Sekai no Owari tries to make an english version of their stuffs ever since they made it clear they wanted to be known in the west. Ratmies were shoving it down everyone's throat that BTS is a global singing group but the fuckers didn't even bother singing in pure english, which is a universally known language. If they don't want to be labeled as "kpop" and just "pop" then be a fucking english singing group then.
I know this may sound like a reverse LANA situation were I might sound like I was saying "pop" is reserved for white people but categories exist to put people in place with a set standard. Do they want BTS to be the only kpop group competing western artists? That is stupid and bullshitty unless they make a move to suit the category. Until then they need to stay in kpop since they are kpop.
Did you just use the word thicc for a korean? Top kek bruh
Yeri is not thicc, she just has an unfortunate fridge waist. SM stylists have been pushing the "big boobed" image on her lately, using pushups and padding and all, seems like you fell for that.
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Does anyone else find Jennie’s posts weirdly provocative? I get she’s an idol but something about the type of pictures she posts weirds me out.
like you said latin artists have latin categories, they have no obligation to put bts along other american artists. i like how much the word kpop triggers
armys. bts is and will always be kpop, cry harder.
it makes me so sad. hyuna used to be drop dead gorgeous (i think the last time she looked great was in the babe era. her look in lip & hip was just atrocious) but now she looks like a trashy crackhead. i loved her back of the shoulder tattoo about her mom, but all her tattoos after that are just horrible looking. i am really disappointed that she lied about her lip fillers. they are so obvious and her naturally full lips were beautiful to begin with.
i know that everyone here loves to point out that rose, lisa, and jimin are skellies and look proana, but every single time that hyuna posts on insta, they look like ana body checks. she is so hollow looking now and when she naturally has a full face and quite a lot of muscle. she lost a lot of weight before debuting and even gained a lot of weight during the hate era. i remember her getting scary thin during her ice cream era to the point her cheeks had these weird deep vertical lines below her cheek bones cause there was no fat and only skin. you can tell shes naturally supposed to have quite a fit and full body, but she looks so fragile and alarming these days.
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http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/07/by9s-debut-funding-reaches-100-million.html?m=1> [+34, -5] I have no idea about anything in this show but from the pictures alone, this group looks a lot better. The members in the original group look too much like babies…
And speaking of Hyuna, the comments are mean, but kind of true lolhttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/07/hyuna-splashes-heat-away-with-her-water.html?m=1
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>>41298>[+100, -5] When did she become such a laughing stock? From her tattoos to her fake lips and chest.. tsk tsk tsk, she just oozes cheapness
ive been wondering the same damn thing. and to all the comments about her cellulite, honestly it is refreshing to be reminded she has cellulite on her back thighs. i remember people giving her shit about it during her bubble pop days.
she used to be so bubbly and cute and now that she is older and hasnt come out with any music yet, its like she is clinging onto whats left of her sexy image and getting worse ps.
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peak hyuna was red era. whatever she did to her face after that was a mistake. it's so obvious her mental health has taken a hit after her departure from cube.
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the fact that jennie already has a baby face makes the little girl styling even creepier
cellulite is natural but look at her thighs vs her backup dancer's lmfao she really did ruin her entirety by dieting and all those skin whitening injections
i always thought hyuna was in her mid20s during bubblepop (in a good way) but looking at her now when she is actually in her mid 20s and looking so bad it is sad really how disgusting the kpop industry is but since she got herself in it and even earned money that other hardworking koreans can't even dream of - her deterioration is like honey to the eyes
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I think it's especially gross that so many normie, non-kpop fans saw her in America and decided that she's "hot" (and even like kpop because of her). And whenever you ask why that is, seeing as she's skinny and has a rather cutish face, they can pull the "But she's an adult! She's already 23, what's wrong with liking her?!"-shit.
She looks cute from a distance. When I actually zoom in and enlarge the picture is where it starts to look unsettling.>>41278
I wish they pushed the big boobie thing harder for red Velvet. Like that group is lacking in boobies. Yeri’s boobs are still underwhelming even with the padding.
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It pisses me off how much stans love to shill Kpop is pure, innocent, better than anything western. If somebody like Whasa had a feed like this, Koreans would call her a cheap slut. White or black girls dressing and posing like this are ugly roasties. But when Jennie does it she's human Chanel, a slaying queen.
Just because she's thin and young looking doesn't make her any classier.
hwasa and hyolyn are straight up n*ggaboos who try to make themselves ~~~different by tanning their skin and wearing more western clothes - hyolyn is still fine because at least she is toned but why do we have to subject ourselves to hwasa's flabby body it is a whole-ass yikes
also i don't understand how there are so many hwasa-fags in this thread defending their qUeEn like f off
it is only SEAfags who hype up Jennie nobody in korea actually gives a fuck about her or her instagram cuz everybody knows jennie is a thot who has been whoring out to YG etc since her teens
compare to sulli who gets flak for going braless but hwasa gets praised for it - it is the pretty girls of south korea that have it hard because people think they should cater to males but uggos like hwasa can get away with anything
Hwasa is actually only a year older than her. Jennie gets away with it cause she's always acted like a rich spoiled wannabe insta model, yg stans love that shit and in Korea they love her body and all so no one calls her out for being a giant narcissist.
I can tolerate hwasa for being like that cause she doesn't have that arrogant attitude. Seems like she doesn't think too much and just does what she likes (although it gets cringey too)
At least she's talented, she's not even the rapper in mamamoo but in their rap songs (which they did just for fun) she managed to be a better rapper than both Jennie and Lisa could ever be.
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Netizens are always whining about Jiyoung 'looking Japanese' and Jessica 'looking Chinese' it's honestly surreal how xenophobic Korea is. I mean Jiyoung always looked distinct in the first place and Jessica and Krystal's surname is from medieval Chinese who came to western Korea (zheng) so no shit she looks somewhat Chinese.
Then they praise Wonyoung as 'the perfect Korean' when her features look foreign to my eyes. Are k-netz retards who reduce korean-ness to aegyo??
Koreans have a serious inferiority complex when it comes to Japan and china in everything, let alone entertainment.
Btw how is Jessica doing? They do everything to block her out of news in Korea unless it's to talk about her looks and it's hard to find chinese news about her.
she seems to be doing okay and pretty happy based off of her instagram.
even though sm lets their artists wear her fashion brand's clothes, along with letting amber liu and irene kim attend flagship store openings and other events, they still blacklisted her from the korean media. it doesn't make sense to me.
RV's first two singles underperformed and they only began gaining traction after adding underage Yeri to the group. The more uncle fans a group gathers, the better they will sell - just ask Twice. If Red Velvet had done more pedobait shit after ICC they'd probably be selling better than Blackpink.
Even SNSD had to pander to ahjussis with Gee and Genie before branching out.
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>>41314>which is funny to me because you still have her stans writing fics about her with a nine inch dick
Those comment are so dumb. >"Is she sane?"
It's called a (obvious) joke…
I thought Joy was considered the "sexy" member. Anyhow, wouldn't be surprised if Yeri's being pushed in the same direction because the members are aging up and need to subtly pander to a new set of perverts. Hell Joy was made fun of for being fat (by insane standards) and not that attractive until she started playing up a sexy concept. After that her popularity seemed to increase as the lengths of her dresses decrease.>>41308
Is this Jennie's actual Instagram feed? You can really see the narcissism on display here.>>41316
kek what kind of incel dimension are you living in? Hwasa got shit for going braless too but you probably saw comments coming from her fans (which of course would be positive). The South Korean GP will find a reason to hate on any woman regardless of her looks, but prettier girls do get away with shit more easily. Another example of this would be how DIA's Chaeyeon and other pretty entertainers are devoid of actual talent but continue to show up on screen.
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I wish her fans would just admit stanning a spoiled idol whose debut was bought by her mom instead of desperately trying to find excuses for her behavior. If almost everyone in the kpop world says she's a lazy brat then there must be some truth to it. Like recently I've been seeing these videos saying how there's something wrong with her and that fans should be nice to her and shit. Her leaving during concerts has become normal now so if something was wrong why wouldn't they release a statement to make people tone down the hate?
Speaking of Jennie, I was just reminded of her dating Kai. Like, that actually happened but it seems most people forgot it or got over it–which is surprising given that they're really popular idols. Why is this the case?>>41356
What was with the random white people in the beginning? Those guys being white seriously didn't add anything to their concept.
Joy was hot before she lost weight too. She wasn’t ‘sexy dynamite’ as she is now but people really liked her body(thighs) when she was chubbier. I don’t really recall her weight being a “bad thing” or like a problem back then.
Joy stans have always been pretty strong and serious about shielding her from that shit. I don’t think it was as bad for her compared to Wendy. They tore Wendy apart for her weight.
I will forever wonder why sm let this happen>>41271
I can't even imagine how disgusting it must be to constantly get forced into doing fanservice with somebody you can't stand. Fans are so delusional, he can shove Jimincel away a dozen times, and they'll still say that he secretly likes it or that this is his way of showing love.
ot but Jaejoong natural pretty, damn
and I don't think idols dating (pre-debu) was nearly as big of a deal in very early 2000s korea as it is now, anon.
This was not that long before his debut, so he might have had some ps already.
And it definitely was bad back then, probably even worse than now (e.g. a couple being accepted lile Jennie and Kai? Unthinkable. A girl was even driven to suicide for being on a show with Suju). He likely just didn't think that anybody would see this clip, seeing as this was before everybody had smartphones/internet.>>41399
I think it's just that most can't help but feel a bit sorry, seeing as he started so young and is surrounded by crazies and is definitely. But then I remember that he's a millionaire and the pity stops lol
>>41402>And it definitely was bad back then, probably even worse than now
Not before TVXQ and suju had even debuted. They did go on to be the ones who made it become a big deal I guess.
He still looks natural to me, ps wasn't as crazy common back then either. Despite what some anons itt think people can be naturally good looking, even idols.
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He was never ugly but he's not natural either. He should've stopped after the first round of ps like in pic related. He looks too fake now
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Even though JK’s voice is nothing special, he always manages to sound like Celine Dion compared to the other three “singers.” He’s actually lucky that he’s surrounded by such horrible vocalists since it makes him sound relatively talented compared to the others.>>41406
I think JJ looked best at DBSK’s peak in 2008-2009. He went too far years later when he had his eyes cut more and jaw shaved (probably for a second time). He looks kind of uncanny valley now. Not to mention how he’s been super thin in past years but actually had some muscle on him during Mirotic.
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speaking of bts i am positive it is filled with mostly autists–we can add j-hope to the group for incomprehensibly spazzing every time there's something slightly "scary" going on.
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wait wtf…does she just walk off stage for the hell of it? ive never seen kpop idols do this lmao…even when they were sick/tired they'd try their hardest, and she looks like she just up and decided she was done and wanted to go chill omg lmao
sage for off topic i just randomly saw a pic of this ugly morning masume or whatever member and was like "who does she remind me of" and i realized it was nayeon
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idk who that girl is but she doesn't deserve to be compared to nayeon lol
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bts oppa much intellectual
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just post the pic, newfag
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This under eye filler thing makes them look like they have vaginas for eyes. Why are they doing it?
Normal people hates bags under their eyes and this gangnam unnies deliberately puts them on their faces.
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the image isn't interesting at all so they probably meant to link the post with the video attached.>>41427
to open their eyes up. it looks horrifying in the pic you posted but if you look at before and afters its kind of understandable.
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hara used to be so pretty it hurts me so much to see how she used to look
shes not ugly now by any means but she lost that natural cute/prettiness she had for some ridiculous surgeries
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reposting the classic
Fuck this and them.
Alogging here but at some point these worthless morons have to go away, right?
I can't remember that last group that was this undeserving of global fame and respect.
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anon they're just a pack of twinks, why are you this mad about them…>>41439
this is pretty nasty though.
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She got her entire face done so she doesn't look quite this awful anymore.
Does anyone remember when she faked being part black on unpretty rapstar and got called the "Rachel Dolezal of Korea" but won the show because it was rigged from the start. kek
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blinks are delusional
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Bitch, they're not even 170cm, according to your logic tall women and nearly all men should be walking skeletons.
Slightly ot, but today I read that Pink got backlash for pic related.
If children running is bad, then how is men posing sexily okay?
they hate and cancel anyone who says or associates with someeone who says something that is not kissing bts's ass. they are so overly triggered
and sensitive, i have to laugh
It's like she and ella gross are playing reversed roles lmao. >>41284
Pink got hate for letting her kids running in a german holocaust memorial, get your facts right…
Btw. the same memorial BTS did a photoshoot years ago and got backlash for it, too. So the pictures were not released officially, if I remember correctly.
great, another yg whoremonger
even his vehicular manslaughter incident looks sketchier now that we know about the company paying off police officers and prosecutors in multiple cases
The amount of young women defending these guys is scary and sad. Almost every group gets "cancelled" once in a while for things that aren't even close to what bts has done but it feels like they're untouchable.
Even with this collab other groups would've been called out for supporting an "islamophobe" or whatever but instead everyone is busy orgasming over our Korean Shakespeare's genius wordplay in that song.
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This fucking scandal is the gift that keeps on giving
it just never ends
I don’t think it’s well-known by many that Lil Nas X has been critical of Islam in the past though. Still BTS fans would have been reacted hypocritically either way. They’ll cry out racism against Asians when their oppars are out of element in appearances outside of SK, but will call Cupcakke the n-word for jokingly sexualizing a legal-aged Jungkook and ignore Jimin literally calling Jungkook the Korean equivalent of the n-word.
I honestly wish Big Hit would stop paying off Dispatch and actually expose them. It’s becoming clearer to anyone but delusional ARMYs that this group is no less douchey and insipid as any other in the market.
This dude must think he's sexy as hell but I'm so cringed out every time he takes center.
He looks like an alien. The whole group looks off, but what's new… also can we stop with the little finger guns? I hate it so much.
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Has anyone else ever thought of how to make the perfect kpop group objectively speaking? Not in a “talent” way, but rather in terms of GP appeal and profitability.
I guess we can discuss this and add our opinions but my strategy would be:
> Maximum of 7 members, preferably 5, bc people don’t care for ginormous groups outside of Big 3 groups imo
> HAS to be good-looking and reasonably well-proportioned/tall, no exceptions for the sake of talent
> Just has to be able to sing alright, I’m not a fan of screeching high notes anyways tbh
> At worst, one/two members can do the majority of the singing and the others can be autotuned and have like one line.
> Ability to compose doesn’t matter since the label would be choosing relatively safe concepts and songs
> Safe wardrobe, no weird hairstyles
> Members would look sort of like 5Surprise with actor-like visuals that would appeal to the GP. In a perfect world, I’d try to scout models for Cha Eun Woo type visuals.
> Would appeal to late teens, 20s and 30s mainly - the older appeal would potentially help in the case of “dating scandals” as opposed to groups with younger fanbases
> Older fans would also have more money to spend
To any of you who have thought of your “ideal group” feel free to reply with the framework. I know mine is boring but if we’re targeting K-fans then it’s gonna be boring, lmao.
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"love is a maze damn but you is amaze yeah"
("is" is actually used and not "are" btw kek)
he thinks he's sexy cause his stans make him believe so.. I always thought he looks weird as hell, since his Produce days.
I still don't understand how he made it into Wanna One. Cause he has a small head? But that's why he looks so fucking weird in my eyes..
Korea's beauty standards man. .
I feel like even the "perfect group" wouldn't guarantee success. It's not all about talent and looks anyway, some groups are just lucky, but to answer your question I'd say something like mamamoo.
A four/five member group with distinct voices who can sing well, perhaps produce or write themselves.
Something I feel like a lot of companies don't take into consideration is chemistry. I'd make sure that they don't hate each other, that they get along fairly well and that their personalities aren't too contrasting, and no excessive favoritism- we don't want end up having a sulli or Jennie or something.
In terms of visuals I'd say average-attractive and the concept should be something rather mature yet still catchy.
Overall, I'd want everyone to be on the same level somehow so not judg one of them stands out while the rest is being ignored(Like Cha eunwoo's group).
I'd also give them a full "woke" course so they don't end being labeled as problematic
>>41486> perfect group wouldn’t guarantee success
You’re right, look at Nine Muses for example who had all tall and pretty members and decent songs. In their long career they didn’t get a single music show award.
I know it’s hard to make a group not fall into nugudom but there are some steps you can take to try and avoid that.
>>41469>get your facts right
First of, every idiot recognizes that this is the holocaust memorial.
Secondly, how new are you that you don't get that >then how is men posing sexily okay?
is a reference to BTS? lol
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Kyungri got a ton of attention from the public though–understandably so since she fits Korean beauty standards pretty well. I think Moon Hyuna's looks also fall into line.
your group sounds lame tbh. it wouldn't do well outside of filling a niche in Korea which isn't ideal at all. top boy groups like exo, tvxq, bts, big bang, etc. got most of their money from i-fans.
I've heard fantagio is about to make a group like that though, all idols who will double as actors and there's another rumor that Ong Seongwoo will be in it. I guess they're going for a group of 4-7 eunwoos.
I often wonder about this. Like sometimes you see a group debuting and you immediately know that they will never make it. What goes through the heads of people selecting these kids? Why don't they see when somebody has zero potential or the group has no chemistry? It shouldn't be too hard to find out what to do and what not to do by analysing other groups.
The only group who was as "perfect" as what you wrote was tvxq, all of them were tall, had nice voices, could dance and were considered attractive by korean standards. >>41517
If Daniel had joined Seongwoo's agency after leaving his own, their group would be extremely successful, the two of them had a huge amount of fangirls.
They need to be more opportunistic. If you have the chance to make good money, then take it.
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I only found out about GWSN recently. I find tomboy member addition very weird, like I don't get the point? Amber was somewhat revolutionary and suit the edgy concept of f(x) but this girl is just weird and adds nothing to the group. Reminds me of Pink Fantasy's secret member (in a bunny mask), it's unnecessary.
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they have a comeback planned for august. Also they added a new random member. Their last song they released as a subunit was garbage tho
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Their tomboy member always sticks out so much.. even Amber managed to keep her boyish look while looking like a cohesive part of F(X)
Ariana's team stole her entire image from several other artist so I suppose this is the circle of entertainment industry life and it's very unmoving.
Idk how she can perform and collab with someone else when she's never not crying on stage and saying that she wants to quit. I think western artist just wanna use kpop idols as accessories for woke Twitter points and it's all sad and a trainwreck
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>>41544>I'm a man because I have a dick
omg based????!??? But really, what's the over/under on them getting cancelled by the woke side of kpop fanaticism?
Holy shit please tell me these are real>>41525
I wonder if her manager or team convinced her to say this lol. We all know that even if you make the slightest mention of a famous kpop group you'll gain more fans and attention. it wouldn't surprise me if this is the gimmick she's going for
>>41559>We all know that even if you make the slightest mention of a famous kpop group you'll gain more fans and attention.
Here's my question. Do you actually think Ariana needs to? Do you honestly think BP is more popular than she is? Because I don't. If anything, it's always kpop groups always using popular western artists to try to break into the western market, using the laziest methods possible (ie the mediaplay of claiming that some pop star is dying to collaborate with them and then repeating it ad nauseum until their gullible fans believe it).
To be honest, I've always just assumed that companies like YG pay hand over fist for these mentions from popular Western artists like Ariana. The same goes for all of bts's shitty collabs and shoutouts.
But Blinks and ARMYS are the
fanbases in a sea of toxic
fanbases so they delusionally scream and brag about this shit and pretend it's their fail!oppas and unnies that are the true stars.
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By doing what…?
Isn't Ariana a wannabe-weeb? She's also totally into that infantile, baby girl shit so it fits perfect with bp, especially Jennie.
She'd probably be into doing a collab with Japanese or Korean singers but with bp idk if she means it cause she'd be scared to be outshined or buried by bp fans.
It would certainly help her image though now that people think she and her fans are racist after the whole kris thing.
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reality can be whatever they want it to be anon
i like this kid
on a more serious note though, stan twitter seems to mostly be on their side so it didn’t blow up with hate the way i anticipated it would.
i do feel bad for her because of the manchester attack and mac miller's death but this is a different topic. at what point has she ever connected to her italian side? if anything she's trying as hard as she can to look half-black/latina and now she's a weeb. most people who criticize her for this aren't even hating on her.
she'll probably collab with blackpink (and bts i guess? she posted a pic with jungkook) in the future. she would sound like a vocal god next to both groups and their live performances would be hilarious so i'm looking forward to it.
Exactly.>>41581>Wonho dated a trans person when he was younger
I thought idols don't date? Does this mean that Oppar isn't pure?>>41585>kid
He's an adult man saying dick in an interview. How revolutionary.
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on the topic of monsta x and transphobia xiaxue got so much shit for this tweet kek
sage because it’s old milk, i just saw it now
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member of monsta x that used to be an ulzzang. he was dating an ulzzang girl that has trooned out long after they stopped dating. pic related
So he dated a girl who later decided to become a fakeboi?
His stans make it seem as if he date a proud and strong transwoman kek
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of course they do, the troons need someone to project onto
kek at the fact shes aiming to look like taehyung (pic related from her instagram)
off topic but i'd slit my throat if i couldn't eat anymore tomato without dying from an allergic reaction >>41560
momoland is an actual one-hit wonder. ngl i thought that they'd last longer too
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lmao she does look like him. sad
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why buy a binder when you can just go full ana chan like yoongi oppa
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ignore all images of his bare chest, he's trans
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there's older pics of all of them, they're all unmistakable blokes. it's not like any k-pop company would take a troon as a trainee anyway.
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the ftm jimin theory is a classic
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what fuckin game is he the best rapper in
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someone paid for this to be done to their face
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No1curr but somin (of kard) looks so horrible now, she was cute as a dsp trainee
Shh you might summon prolapse-anon>>41723
That editing makes her look sick
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these nosejobs where you can see into their nostrils need to be stopped
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This is probably not kpop related but seeing as a japanese group composed of AV actresses debuted in korea… it won't be long until we see this shit happening and get normalized soon>>41594
I remember people claiming wonho is gay himself when they found out his ex-girlfriend became a troon. Like a bunch of them were saying they dated one another to keep their sexuality hidden and while they were "dating", she were already in a relationship with another girl who were often seen with them.
I watched the debut stage and the camera is on her for like 80% of the time and she also sings and raps most of the parts in that song. From that song alone it seemed to me that she's the only one who's somewhat capable of singing. The rest just sounded horrible.
Why does jyp hate talented idols? His strategy for (girl) groups seems to be focused on public image rather than singing talent.
Lol, some of the comments are so pathetic. "When they didn't have a clue who brown eyed girls were, it made me a tad sad T_T". Wth do you expect from little kids?
At least those kids got the chance to hear someone who can sing compared to BTShit that they immediately asked if she had met.
they're probably waiting for twice to fall off before putting out a new cute group>>41744
I think she's the most popular too but idk. Ryujin is supposed to be the center but it feels like jyp is putting most of the spotlight on Yuna and Yeji.
Yep, JYP has given up on putting out groups with original concepts and has resorted to ripping off SM groups one by one instead (not like SM are terribly original but you get my point)
Twice was the SNSD ripoff, Itzy is the f(x) ripoff but with no tomboy member. In 3 years time he'll debut a Red Velvet ripoff after RV disbands
Whoever sings the first part of the chorus sounds awful. I recognize the second voice after as Yeji, who is surprisingly a good singer as well as dancer. Even BoA was impressed by her, I actually respect her level of talent but some of the girls are seriously bland. Ryujin is one of those kpop idols that I don't get the hype about. Am I the only one who doesn't find her particularly attractive? I think botoxed face Lia is better looking tbh.>>41745>>41780
Wtf happened to JYP's vocals? Miss A had talented singers all around. I don't recall the specific member's voices but Miss A also had lower tones which were refreshing compared to the super high tones that are basically encouraged in kpop. And Wonder Girls had 2-3 members who were talented singers as well. I guess JYP has realized with Twice that you don't actually need decent singers in a group.
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If anyone's interested, this is the first actual, coherent information I've ever read about LSM being on Interpol's list, even though I've seen kpop fans mention it a million times. Not as interesting as expected.>https://nomediaplay.tumblr.com/post/186582030329/idk-if-you-have-a-post-about-it-already-but-whats
This is so cringe, including the replieshttps://mobile.twitter.com/geesubay/status/1154617012179496960
>You don't like kpop because you're racist/have toxic masculinity/are misogynistic
So there's something wrong with you if you don't find a bunch of guys with extreme plastic surgery and makeup appealing? Lmao. The fact that kpop idols didn't always look the way they do now makes this argument even dumber
Also why should they be compared to normal looking asian dudes? Just because you don't find kpop idols attractive doesn't mean you don't find asian men in general attractive
>At least asian dudes know decent hygiene!
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I love the continuing obsession with 'toxic
masculinity' from libfems. Like all those flowerbois in the burning sun chat, they love women even when they beat them up and piss on them because they wear makeup and exfoliate uwu!!!
I want the retard in pic related to explain to me how Korean men embody any of what she is talking about
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this is so ugly
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Jimin's actually the one that straight dudes tend to gravitate towards because he's very small (like legit tiny, even his hands are very small and feminine), and because he has feminine facial features and a high pitched voice.
Give them 3 years time and they'll begin to look equally dead inside
Red Velvet, Blackpink, Twice were all fairly energetic at debut too before they got sick of idol life
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I'm not a designer but the fonts they use on this cover are so damn messy. The lowest part is cut off as well. It's embarrassing for SM to publish this shit.
i guess he tried out different concepts and discovered that pedobait is more lucrative than ~girl crush~. >>41735
itzy is a result of him realizing that there is
potential in the girl crush market now that girl power is in, thanks to liberl feminism, and wanting to cash in on that. like other anons pointed out, it's a ripoff of the "f(x) are snsd's little sister group uwu" shtick.
Got7 is a failed 2pm 2.0
JYP wanted to make remake