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context for those who are late and confused about this situation :> Maintenance for 2 days (19/12 to 22/12)>No communication of what the admin was going to fix during this maintenance>Shaymin changed the entire website yesterday, by using the new batch lynxchan code since Vichan is getting old> /w/ got removed, kpop-posting is now allowed and old threads disappeared> Shaymin still left original.lolcow.farm for those who didn’t liked the new one> Shaymin is fed up with the changes and decide to lend the website to someone else (see >>48684 )
After the major change that happened yesterday, several nonnies were left disappointed and we might witness the retirement of Shaymin. But now, we must know how and who will keep this website alive. Did any nonnies already sent their applications to Shaymin ? Will the nonnies create a team for fixing and improve the website ? Any nonnies wants to share their ideas for the future of this website ?
If I were made admin right now (which I obviously won’t be) this is what I would do>Revert back to original Code/CSS for now>Find 2 other people crazy enough to also run this site >These three people would form the “Core Team” >No one person in the core team would have the ability to unilaterally make changes to the site. Passwords/logins would be distributed in such a way that if a core team member went rouge the most they could do would be to take it offline temporarily.>Any major site decision would be done via a 3-way vote between the core team members in a quarterly meeting over text/discord/in-person/whatever >The minutes of these meetings would be posted to /meta/ to ensure transparency with the rest of the community>nonnas can propose changes in /meta/, and if there’s enough community buy-in these changes will be discussed and decided on by the core team. The core teams decision would be final though, to prevent these discussions going out of control
Obviously this is quite bureaucratic but It’s the only real way to ensure the site is protected from this kind of rogue admin imo
Thank you for the thread!
I can't really volunteer as an admin but I can volunteer my casual and somewhat HTML/CSS skills. I'm in school for CS so I can pick up any necessary knowledge pretty quickly.
I'd also happily volunteer to do PR if Shaymin decides to stay and doesn't feel comfortable with announcements/wev. I love this site, and really want to see it continue to thrive.
I like the idea of having a core team, having people managed different areas. Like one would be in charge of communication with users, one with maintenance/coding the site & 3rd I'm not sure what would do? Maybe someone who has legal knowledge or to manage recruiting jannies?
Also I think it would be best for Shaymin to give us a townhall, we haven't had one this year, the lack of communication has been confusing for a lot of nonnas
HTML/CSS Anon here
One nona doing all the code/site stuff is not feasible, imo; that's WAY too much work for one person, trust me. You'll need at least a couple people, preferably in different timezones to maximize the chance of someone being available whenever issues arise.
this is too complicated
you just need one or max two people
one is leader in charge steering site so moderation norms, new boards, etc
other is technical helper to keep site running and implement anything needed>>48807
once it's running site should be plenty stable to not need that many people
more important to have multi timezone moderation to delete bad content and stuff
you are being embarassingly stupid nonnie
i‘m sorry but do you know how hard it is to code and train AI?
this would take years and a lot of money to do that, this website must have the same amount as 4chan users to create this type of bot..
also i wanted to add my suggestions :>having 1 or 2 farmhands each from different timezones ( US / Europe / Africa / Asia / Australia ), have them verified through voice verification or smthg like that>put the new layout as beta.lolcow.farm or new.lolcow.farm ; change back the original.lolcow.farm to lolcow.farm
lol no, sweaty. I always know who is tech illiterate when they bring up AI.>>48808>>48807
Yeah one person is enough to run a site until there's a big problem, then it takes forever to fix because you only have one person on it. Ideally I think the mod team should also be tech literate so they can also handle issues, but that's just my opinion as someone who has experience running websites.
imo there isn't really any problem that can happen to a smallish image board where you need more than one person to fix
as long as you accept possibility of 1-2 times a year being down for half a day if person is sleeping or something
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Ayrt, and you’re likely right unfortunately. But right now I think someone running lc on their own is a real thankless task. It’s a poison chalice and that’s what leads to a never-ending rotation of admins. I think a group of people who are all equally responsible for keeping the site running would be better for everyone involved
Don't think so. There's three ways
- straight file hash ban
- perceptual hash ban
- use fancy proprietary CSAM detector like Microsoft PhotoDNA, the only way a normal person can use one is cloudflare's free csam scanning option
traffic won't impact stability unless it's really inconsistent and your server is undersized for peaks
cp/gore is a moderation problem not technical one (beyond basic file banning system), two programmers won't help
and malicious attacks just have to be dealt with when they come having a second person doesn't really help if your host kicks you off in middle of the night due to false reports or someone is ddosing you
no, it just has a big janny fleet (something like 50 at a time) that works under a single janitor manager
the full history of 4chan moderators/janitors is long and explosive, but in regards to site owners, there has only ever been 2 in its history. Stability needs a good single admin, constant changes can be lethal.
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I legit hope Admin pulls the plug, deletes it all, wipes the landing page clear and then just adds like an url to crystal.cafe on the main page like so.
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I would love this idea except… what if they just run with the money? otherwise lolcow merch is kinda cute.
Also there's the implication that zoomers on tiktok will start wearing those shirts to be ~edgy~ and we really don't want that
can someone help me with accessing the website? I'm using https://farmcow.lol/
right now and sitting next to a mirror, how can i get to lolcow?