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and it’s starting >>1095528
no one gives a shit about this anymore tbh, like with any event that has happened in the last 10 years that seems world shattering, it’s a pattern >spend first few days of event freaking out>slowly check on it less>stop caring all together >forget it’s even happening
Makes you even more frustrating that once the war started there were people on twitter under any ukrainian war news going like "what?? have you people suddenly forgotten about Syrians/Palestinians/etc?? how curious" as if the coverage is any different than in other previous wars
On polish side things are not so bright either - volunteers are overworked, there is barely any help from the gov, many people sleep inside railway stations, volunteers buy basic stuff like food, meds, kettles with their own money.
Also, me and my friends are in good situation rn, but people are afraid it will be even harder to find a job nowadays (back in 2020 I've been applying for basic jobs like shop-assistant, Ikea, McDonald and nah) and it's a pain since Ukrainians are hardworking, but also they undervalue their work and will take a job with unfairly low salary. Ofc hope we will all make it.>>1095507
Fun fact, he's free already
>>1096336>He's free already
Of course he is.
In the west, we have rapists getting out because BonD is UnfAiR or HIS BRIGHT FUTURE UWU.
In "civilized" eastern Europe, every male is either a rapist or a rapist sympathizer so he probably got a wink from the judge and walked out.
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>McDonald's fan CHAINS himself to Russian outlet to stop it from closing down>The angry Russian McDonald's fan said closing down the outlet was an act of hostility against him and his fellow citizenshttps://meaww.com/luka-safronov-mcdonalds-fan-chains-himself-to-russian-outlet-protest-shut-down
Russian man with American soul.
Thinking about all the anons here who whine how they wished they had passion for something, anything.
Show them this and ask "do you really, do you?"
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Elon will save Ukraine
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First Channel is Russia's number 1 national channel that everyone watches and is tied to the govt a lot. One of their workers ran with a pic-related poster live on TV and got arrested by police, is currently being interrogated by the police rn.
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There is also a woman whose name is Elena Osipova. She is the survivor of the siege of St Petersburg. She got arrested for demonstrating against the war third time in a row now, and she always takes a lot of effort and time into painting her posters. The octogenarian is called the “conscience of Saint Petersburg”. I am worried for her because not only how much russia hates women (I have sent you the first audio-proof that the policemen are toruting and forcing women to twerk and strip down naked, while saying that it's nbd for them to kill 'these whores', after all 'Putin will increase their salary'. Fun fact - policemen always prefer capturing women (with children or not) and old people). Picrel is one of her recent apprearances (yesterday) the first poster says 'Putin is war' 'we don't want to go to heaven for Putin' (probably translates weirdly to english).
I have always been worried about only women, children, and old people in Russia. In Russia, before the current sanctions old people could earn only 110 eur a month, now it went down to 80, if not less. You can't pay 110eur per apartment for shit. Through the years, everyone kept asking for pension to get increased and it's been at least 20 years now and nothing happened. We had a lot of protests 2 years in a row after they added years to pension age. (It's 61 and a half for women now, and 65 for men. It keeps getting increased year by year) The only way you can get a pension early now, at age of is if you have at least 5 children as a woman. According to their plan, the pension age will keep getting increased by 67 minimum years in 2031.
I also noticed that they arrest mostly women at the filmed protests I've seen. COWARDS.
I hope Elena will be safe.
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She is going to protests daily since the very first announcement. I like these posters.
The first one is dedicated to dead LGBT-activist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelena_Grigoryeva
>Yelena 'Lena' Grigoryeva (1977/1978 – July 21, 2019) was a human rights and LGBTQ rights activist. She also opposed the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation. She was murdered in St. Petersburg, Russia on 21 July 2019, when she was stabbed and strangled to death by unknown assailants, her body is found near her home.
She also had protested publically in the Khachaturian sister's case, but it's another story you could probably google about yourself. However, if you do, please make sure the sources are from feminists. It's a tough story and tough case that the lawyer ditched because they got bored of it (the lawyer took it and went 'uguu we protest victims
!!!' when feminism was a trending topic in Russia).
The other poster says 'Russia. We are getting used to the worst.'
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A lot of voices on how it's faked, that russia had "no live tv for years", etc., it makes me feel exhausted. Era of fake news is so tiring. What can we believe anymore?
TBH I don't know what tier of 4D chess Russia would be playing arresting people for saying the word "war" but then staging an anti war protest on tv. Anything is possible I guess, but I don't get it. But maybe that's the point, to have everyone confused.
Different, related twitter threadhttps://twitter.com/yarko/status/1503468654687576071
Fucking Facebook people always think everything is built around conspiracy theory, it's so bizzare to me. Both of these people disgust me. I am sorry that English media never bothered doing anything past showing 'Russia stronk and Putin good' over the past 20 years because they never gave a shit about our voices, even when we've had rigged elections right in front of our faces with all of the proofs you need, thousands of people literally recording how they are destroying your voting paper in front of you, giving you pens that can be erased, down to even faking your own votes - oops, you voted already!
All of the shit you shown are from idiots that want to believe into whatever they want to believe. We have had Prvý Channel livestreams throughout this day along with other govt bought channels too. I am sorry you have to read all of this idiocy. I am so tired of being tied to conspiracies and being hated.
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There was a protest in support of Russia here in Serbia, this is the second one. It was organised by right-wing groups.
It was a protest drive, they were in vehicles. Apparently, the protest didn't get police approval so they went without police escort. I'm pretty sure last time they had it since the city centre was closed off by police then. I read that there was about 1000 people on this protest and about 4000 on the previous, but I never trust the numbers they put out and I haven't seen it for myself. There were calls for a counter-protest but that didn't happen.
How fucking mentally retarded do you have to be to do this shit
Of course it’s on a lada, the crippled gas guzzling monstrosity
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I hope this is not true
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>burgers begging venezuela for oil
This feels like one of those images made by leftypol users who trigger
Sorryyyy… Guess it doesn't belong here.
Mods can delete if they want.
>Are you a scrote or a pornsick woman?
Yes, but not pornsick, whatever that means?
I just hate these fake RW skanks.(cock-obsessed pornsick moid)
I have been /pol/, its literally just a spamming battle between whites and "based" latinos and mostly Indians and self hating whites spammming porn and infographics >>1099692
you can delete any self post, under 30 minutes
So you're a scrote?>I hate these rw skanks
Lmao what do you mean by rw? Whyy are you calling them skanks? Do you think putin cares if 2 women fuck men from other races? Even if you hate some women don't fucking post porn or posts obviously made by racist moids of them. I assume you're the type of chick the moids who made this image would mock and call racial slurs so you should know better than not fucking support these men or spread their ideologies.
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I'm worried more about Kyivanon though. She didn't seem to post in this/previous (not so sure about the previous thread since there was an Ukrainian anon, she just posted in Russian), but thank you for asking!
Now that it's sure that NATO/anyone else won't intervene, main thing I'm worried about is medication since there's zero insulin and thyroid hormones in drug stores and Russian analogues are trash. I have several aliments and some of them need daily overseas meds, some big pharmaceutic corporations took part in this big "cancelling" of Russia by companies and no longer ship or test their chems in Russia.
Sure we can live without McDonalds or some shit like that but the prices on everything are increasing due to shipment problems/etc, that means the public is more worried about their survival (especially now that the government wants to bring back death penalty).
The mask mandate is over in big cities like Moscow, some speculate it's to avert the public attention from bigger issues, or to easier recognize protesters' faces (and subsequently fine/jail them). There's not much big protests going on, seems like it's sadly settled down now after 2 weeks or so.
The quieter public either seems to support the invasion (even going as far as organizing public support actions, picrel - the letters "Z" and "V" are main symbols of support due to them being painted on Russian military vehicles invading Ukraine, "ZапацаноV" - "Vor the boyZ"???) or to just be silent because of big fines which many can't afford to pay.
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"Z" symbol on Russian tanks in Ukraine.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(military_symbol)
Looks like the Wolfsangel without the middle part… that is ironically used by the Neo-Nazi Azov Ukrainian battalion. Or "Volodimir Zelenskiy" (current Ukrainian president).
Did you manage to leave the country?
Did FSB leave you alone?
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Sadly, no to both questions.
As of now I'm not really able to flee but today I went outside and have seen kind of less of their vehicles (although more of the Z-marked civil ones).
Picrel is Murmansk's, one of the lesser Russian cities' center. Notice the "ZаМир, ZаРоссию, ZаПрезидента" slogan which roughly translates to "For Peace (eh?), For Russia, For President". They don't even hide it anymore. I think they're just trolling us right now…
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for anyone else who loves stepan the cat, he and his owner were able to evacuate kharkiv. they are in france now https://www.instagram.com/p/CbKw4CzMpBo/
Thank you nonny
, his little videos always give me a lot of joy and I'm so relieved they're both safe
Finn-chan, right? Thank you for the offer, but I have no knowledge of Finnish (although my friend and practice could help) and if I decided to leave I'd likely do it with my aunt since I live with her right now. Her boyfriend himself left Russia and is now in UAE (he knows Finnish though since he studied there).>>1101031
Holy shit, that house… you'd think the picture is from WW2. I'm glad the kitty and his owner could evacuate.
Roscomnadzor also blocked Instagram in Russia "for protecting the mental health of our youths" (yes of course).
Love you nonnie
I'll be visiting my psychiatrist on Sunday and see if any foreign-imported/made with foreign chems necessary medication will straight up disappear from every pharmacy.>>1101117
No, I'm not that anon who works for a foreign company (I'm a NEET) but the FSB is still into me somehow for 5 fucking years now. (Do they target lolcow users specifically kek?)>Could my friend avoid using ig lest she catches their eye?
As long as she doesn't post any "extremist" materials (could be as mundane as calling the "special military operation" a real war and posting #netvoine (no war)) she's fine. They don't care about VPN users as long as they're not in the "extremist" database.
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Is Till Lindemann a trustworthy character? It seems really strange that he'll go to a train station with his manager and just help a random ukranian woman, if this story is even true. After hearing stories of ukranian women and children being targeted by predators and people with horrible motives, it's hard to think that a man as famous as Till would do this just out of the kindness of his heart. Might just be a media stunt for him, but still. Someone help calm my mind.
They're not invading when nato were the first to proclaim to russia that they've moved in their bases almost in the russian border and when russia said back off multiple times they told ukraine to just begin bombing, hence russias retaliation. Usa very quietly slid out of there though and now all the normies think its just some casual war between russia and ukraine.
Theres a podcast of an aussie ex SAS guy who goes into why this whole war is bullshit and that the usa has had the cia involved in many 'projects' in ukraine for many decades now. If I find the link i'll post it here.
I've been reading on political forums people saying>Nato is really just another method of white people controlling the world>Nato is a white alliance and contrarians here oppose it because they cant see it
Nato is fucked and it was formed by nazi runaways from germany to usa, during/after ww2. People are blind to the fact that nato is just repurposed nazi empire. Dramatic way of saying but its happening and its fucking scary what they're about to do to the world.
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why the fuck do you think people had to make an org against russia in the first place? historically they were always a pervarsive bully with imperialistic tendencies and world would be a better place if poland managed to destroy it back in 17th century. >but muh nato imperialism
and european union is a 4th reich blah blah blah
this is why this thread is dead now. only retards left with no understanding of history and context while anons who care can access better places to talk in their own languages.
Same fag but russiaboos are truely triggered
their speshul aesthetic country is committing war crimes.
They saved Syria from being ruled by Islamists, Syrian women would have been in the same condition as Afghan women without Russsia, as for the mercenaries in Africa well that's the fault of the utter weaknesses of African militaries
Without Russian aid, ISIS backed groups would have taken over regions of the congo
as a syrian I can attest to this post. >>1103469>Look at their part in Syria
they saved my fucking country from american armed isis groups you idiot
>>1103469>Fuck Russia. They act like literal animals. truely the worst white people have to offer.
Nice spelling. Also lets see here.>Usa: Promotes lgbt/troon culture (even in sport), gets you jailed/cancelled for hate speech against non agenda crowds (even though it claims to be a country of free speech), promotes gay/sex education in young children, declining reading comprehension in children each decade, increase of gang violence in each state per year, increase in crime skyrocketing in the past decade, decrease in college to workforce, promoting big pharma/big antidepressant to civilians and young adults, mental illness skyrocketing in the last 20 years, history erasure in schools, obesity rate still increasing while also still promoting fast food, promoting mass immigration and race mixing etc
>Russia: Has made marriage within a church law, if you own a holiday home in the country you must grow your own fruits and vegetables, lgbt and troonism propaganda is illegal and frowned upon, reading comprehension in schools still as high as china, rate of university to workforce still high, radical feminism not accepted by women in the country however traditional (terf) feminism is, religion and modesty is promoted and not shunned, still addressing people by first and middle name as a sign of formality, use of formal/informal pronouns still used in the russian language today to address older/younger people out of respect etc
keep believing what cnn tells you though, its where real journalism happens. why do you honestly think usa/eu/nato would love to just cancel russia from the rest of the world? this is exactly what happens when people dont follow the status quo. It was the muslims first, next the russians, then the chinese and indians etc.
>>1096351>In "civilized" eastern Europe, every male is either a rapist or a rapist sympathizer so he probably got a wink from the judge and walked out.
Serious question, are you Polish or
at least Eastern European? Because I disagree with that assessment about my country being "uncivilised"
>>1103501>lgbt and troonism propaganda is illegal and frowned upon
banning troons is based but lesbians dont deserve to be in the same spot>feminism accepted
LMAO>religion and modesty is promoted and not shunned
relligion: your place is only to serve men and your womb is only for producing children.
modesty: if you show arms you are whore trying to seduce the poor boys>still addressing people by first and middle name as a sign of formality, use of formal/informal pronouns still used in the russian language today to address older/younger people out of respect etc
western euro languages really do feel informal but unnecessary hierarchy is stiffling and leads to dumb boomers having too much power
go be a retarded tradhot somewhere else
serbia fag again, I think you are taking the religion part out of context, we do not serve men or provide womb for our children, as orthodox people we have to have the utmost respect for one another in a marriage and especially in 21st century we have very progressive gender roles. I earn more money than my husband as a teacher and he totally doesn't mind that! I am also allowed to wear anything I want? I have been to russia before and the women there love partying and can wear whatever they want im not sure where you got that from.>unnecessary hierarchy is stiffling and leads to dumb boomers having too much power
this is not true, it provides us with a sense of respect for one another especially if we just met someone and we want to show them that we respect them. Once you get to know someone you can speak less formally to them and it helps make the friendship feel closer in my opinion humble.
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Can i stop getting those ads on my animu
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you edgy poltards are so cringy
im not serbian. if you met people who dont mind what you wear then you didnt meet true orthodox people. just people who vaguely follow the rules.
in any society with hierarchy elders overuse the respect. Because they are elders, they can't be wrong and if you say they made a mistake you are being a rude brat. you have to listen no matter what. It's harder to make friends with people older than you because you must always keep in mind the social differences. you may be close, but because of the rules you will never be truly close. not to mention that in all hierarchical societies the women are always bellow.
poltards are pro-russian
Дорогая анонка, тоже читаю их и ебать жопа горит так, что даже по английски не могу сформулировать, насколько они все не правы. Тупо горю и закрываю вкладку нах.
Сука, я думала, что только вата в каком-то манямирке живёт, а тут вон оно чё.
Do any rusophiles here did as much as maybe idk, read wiki? Since they clearly refuse to do any deeper dive into the topic.
Domestic violence is so common in russia they went as far as decriminalizing it - because it's just so normal. Add that to rampant alcoholism, there's your romantic russian boyfriend.
As a Russian woman living in Russia, I confirm 99% of that post.
I am reading what some of you "pro-Russian" anons post here and only god knows how I wish Putin was your president. I wonder how drastically your words would change
There was a post by anon from Syria. If Russia helped your country, I am glad, I am really happy for you (no jokes or sarcasm). I used to watch TV news but could not tell if they were lying about helping Syria.
Unfortunately, every time Russia helps some country, it does so at the cost of happiness of its citizens. If our government saved Syria, I want to know when we, regular Russians, are on the list because I can't take it anymore.
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India ain't bowing to the demands. Western countries (plus Japan) need to stop hounding India over it.
i'm addressing a moid, did you not notice "khuyasti" = "scrote"?
you will never be a native speaker
Russia isn't China, and India is a poor country. Reminder that the Chinese are not friendly with Russia the way many European countries are with other, the Chinese are perfectly happy to see Russia reduced to a vassal state that is forced to sell raw materials to China for cents on the dollar because they can't trade with anyone who would pay more.>>1104208
The West didn't stop buying Russian oil and gas either, they sent billions to Russia since the war started. It's simply not possible to just cut off a massive part of the energy supply that quickly. The EU plans to become independent from Russia "before 2030" with significant reductions of imports sometime this year.
New sources need to be found and contracts negotiated and infrastructure needs to be built to accommodate imports from new sources and redistribution from new import sites.
ну что ты несёшь, блядь? каким боком те две анонки не правы?
в России не декриминализовывали домашнее насилие? В России не запредельный уровень алкоголизма?
А мб мужики в РФ все как один красавцы обходительные?
Протревзей, мудчинка, и съебись с лолкау.>>1104435
кто тут дура?>>1104090>>1104092
you are simply retarded>>1104514
Your comment makes no sense. India has been a pro-Russia state for decades while it is suspicious of Ukraine since Ukraine used to sell weapons to Pakistan and support Pakistan at UN resolutions. China is significantly more wary of Russia and actually historically more friendly towards Ukraine since Russia annexed a lot of territory that formerly belonged to China, Russian soldiers raped many Chinese women, and Russia even almost nuked China during the Sino-Soviet split.
Trying to act like Russia and China are in cahoots together and India is retarded for not ditching Russia is all a bunch of Western projection and cope.
historically more friendly towards Ukraine
excuse me? Ukraine is too young to have any historically
more friendly relations with China
>since Russia annexed a lot of territory that formerly belonged to China
excuse me? x2
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I agree with these paragraphs. It's like when Iranians end up becoming more supportive of their government when they actually meet Americans for the first time and see how hateful they are. A lot of Iranians hate the US government but they genuinely do not hate the American people due to the influence of US soft power on the globe. This is unlike Americans who never distinguish the people from their government and hate them both even if they may claim to "love the Iranian people".
Sanctions on entertainment and food are kind of pointless in rotten kleptocracies where people have zero ability to affect their government because nobody in charge cares at all about the people or country, but the economic sanctions are wrecking the ability of the Russian government to undermine and attack neighbouring countries. Maybe mass unemployment and shortages of everything will make oligarchs feel uncomfy, but that hasn't stopped North Korea from crawling on endlessly.
Impoverishing the Russian people does help people outside of Russia, and it doesn't really matter what Russians think because they can't do or decide anything either way.
Maybe things will change when Putin dies. Hopefully Russia will break apart and the great evil will be destroyed for good. If the sanctions don't end soon, Russia will return to a state similar to the 90s, except reviled by everyone and a vassal state of China.
I hope for Russia to become a normal country, but somehow it never happens. It's sad, I cry for my Russian friends who are stuck there.
Sanctions are evil and ineffective. They always end up hurting the common people the most, especially the poor. The sanctions on North Korea have starved the North Korean people to the point where they are 8cm shorter than South Koreans (prior to the partitioning of Korea the North Koreans were taller).
Western nations should not expect Russians to side with the West and turn against the Russian government when the West spreads Russophobia, bans anything Russian, and discriminates against the Russian diaspora based solely on their ethnicity.
Most Russians are already supporting their government because they are getting irradiated by bullshit propaganda 24/7 for 20+ years now. Imagine if you turn on the news and all the news on all channels are nothing but lies, and half of them are saying different things, but all of them are wrong, and every couple weeks the message changes but nothing is ever mistaken. Your president is on TV and his speech is full of contradictions and obvious falsities and people pick and choose which lies they believe based on their preferences, but nobody believes that there even is a truth or if there is, that it matters, because truth has no impact on reality.
That's your world for all your life.
Remember when the Russians bombed out a maternity ward, except it was an Azov Nazi HQ, also it was a maternity ward, but it had been evacuated and the victims
are paid actors. Also it was not bombed by Russians, it was Azov Nazis attacking a maternity ward to kill their own women and children to make Russia look bad. Pick whichever version appeals to you, Russian propaganda is generous that way.
Whether a couple retards in the west harass Russians is completely irrelevant, the Russian news will say whatever anyway.
NATO's existence means that Russia being pitted against the USA and the rest of Europe was an inevitable outcome, and there would be some violence eventually. Imagine if something like BRICS was a military alliance instead of an economic one, it would trigger
the fuck out of the Americans and tension would always be there.
How come only Russia feels threatened by NATO? All their victims
rushed to join them and those that couldn't ended up being attacked by Russia and turned into eternal shitholes with bogus breakaway "republics" like Ossetia, Donbabwe, Trannystria. Yet NATO did nothing, almost as if it's a defensive alliance and not a plot to destroy Russia. NATO has been bordering Russia for 18 years, and nothing has happened. No nuclear weapons have been moved to the border states. Instead Russia violates NATO air space every other week to no response.
Russia is a rogue state and sees targets banding together for self d3fense as an aggressive act. It is cold war tier paranoid derangement.
NATO didn't really do anything in the Middle East, unless you count Afghanistan. It was involved in Libya, and did some stuff on UN mandate in Yugoslavia.
Most people think any western military operation is a NATO operation, but that's not the case.>>1105436
I'm not going to defend US imperialist and cold war bullshit, but it's incomparable to what Russia does. The Central and Eastern European countries wanted to join NATO in the first place due the experience of being occupied and colonized by Russian troops for half a century. And Russia never stopped. She has no soft power, so every problem is solved with brute force.
China is an imperialist power that is in conflict with all her neighbours because of her efforts to expand her territory. NATO is a defensive alliance that countries apply to join and need to work to meet the standards of.
I'm not aware that the US government is threatening Mexico with invasion.
>>1105482> antagonizing Russia
Aren't we forgetting that it was the Russians who conquered half of Europe, which prompted threatened European countries to seek American protection?
Like how the NATO expansion to Russia's borders was a response to Russian aggression against neighbours?
It seems you confuse cause and effect, this is literally
>>1105488>Didn't stop the USA going paranoid and trying to destabilize Latin America.
Yes, that was wrong.
But what does it have to do with Russian foreign policy in the present?
Russia has no enemy except for those that were created by Russian policies, and the desire of her enemies is to be left alone by Russia. To that end they joined a purely defensive military alliance that has done nothing to threaten or hurt Russia for as long as Russia existed in her current form. Even though Russia has returned to her imperialist ways. Did you know Russia is also a country that colonized and settled the lands of indigenous peoples and all but exterminated their culture in their home lands? She is knows as a Prison of Peoples for that reason.
Unlike Russia's neighbours who are always at risk of military attack by Russia, Russia has no fear of being militarily attacked by foreign countries due to her large nuclear deterrent. So a military
alliance, even if it was not as strictly defensive as NATO, isn't terribly threatening.
For decades the policy of the EU and US was to neutralize Russia as a threat by incorporating the Russian economy into the wider western trade networks. They thought Russia is a normal country that will rather cooperate and prosper than rule over an army of serfs. Putin woke them up from that dream. He showed that he is a liar who will break promises and companionship as easily as he breathes. That's another part of why the response to this war is so harsh.
>>1105502>But what does it have to do with Russian foreign policy in the present?
If you don't see how these actions parallel each other then you're an idiot. A Latin America with strong ties to the USSR would present a security threat to the USA since the USSR was its chief rival, the US viewed Latin America as its "sphere of influence", and many Latin American nations were resentful of US imperialism.
Even if many of these Latin American countries did not border the US and had far inferior cultural, military, economic metrics to pose any realistic challenge - the US would continue to be paranoid about them and perceive them as potential threats regardless.
The US uses a very light hand in Europe, only soft power, and consequently European countries routinely don't follow the US lead in military or political matters, but that doesn't substantially affect the long term association between the regions because cooperation serves both far better than competition, let alone subjugation.
The idea, that the only relationship between states is that between master and serf is a very Russian one that doesn't reflect reality, which is probably why Russia has been failing at every turn to accomplish her foreign policy goals.
> Incorporating Russia economically will render it dependent on the West
It became interdependent with the West, that's not the same.>>1105519> Russia has maintained (at least for the most part) economic self-sufficiency
It actually hasn't, Russia operates much like a third world country in that regard. A corrupt leadership extracts resources and exports them to economically dynamic countries, and in return imports machines and technology. Russia failed to develop her economy despite an almost uniquely advantageous position (highly educated workforce, long experience with advanced technology, competent administration, rule of law, close to European markets and European culture) in part because oligarchs can easily become rich through exploiting resources. Putin actively erodes everything that would threaten him, which includes economic development. An educated and wealthy populace would demand political participation, civil liberties, and a crack down on corruption. So Putin works to keep Russians poor and fighting for scraps, while feeding them propaganda about the evil of the West and the glory of Putin.
It will be interesting to see how Russia copes with the sanctions, because most of even the domestically produced technology is made with imported parts that are no longer available.>>1105531
I can't comment on US policy in South America because I only have a vague idea about it, but I think the situation todays is substantially different.
The USSR was an actual threat to the US, while the US is not really a threat to Russia. Russia is a poor country with an economy the size of Brazil, with a similar structure, but with a very old and shrinking population. China has a higher GDP per capita than Russia, and unlike Russia China actually makes things.
You don't realize how pathetic and decrepit Russia actually is. The US simply has no need to be aggressive towards the country. Today the EU alone utterly dwarfs Russia by every metric.
now please tell me what exactly does this >>1105563
have to do with anything
If you didn't disagree with the statement that the US sucks in ways but is still far better than the competition then what were you trying to say?>>1105563> All indigenous activism today is also rooted in […] American politics.
is onto something after all.
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Men in Russia have bought up women's pads and sell them at prices two to three times higher than the market price.
Probably because they don't have enough appropriate working equipment for them and most of the soldiers aren't exactly well trained, it would just be a waste of bodies.
He has sent in mercenaries recently though.
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This is an interesting look at what I assume to be a real woman fighting the Russians (as opposed to the propaganda nonsense they post to make horny moids sign up).
I would have said no way will he attack the Baltics, but I also thought attacking Ukraine is pure insanity (I wasn't wrong). Putin is not living in the real world, so who can tell.
But whatever the will, the Russian military will not have the ability to do anything against the NATO armies currently in Europe. Ukraine showed that it never could to begin with, but now even that pathetic army is shambles.>>1109110
Belarus is in a weird position. The people in the country virtually unanimously oppose war and reportedly the Belarusian military refused to participate when ordered to invade Ukraine. But the country is also enslaved by the Russian puppet government, so nobody can actually do anything about anything.
>>1103874>I don’t pray but I’ll do it for you and all the other Russian and Ukrainian women, nonnie
Thank you anon!
Russian government has been banning free VPN services.
I am about to stop posting on lolcow :(
Nta but another Russian
Many decent not-free VPN services are not available for Russians since Visa and MasterCard suspended Russian operations.
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Everybody is fighting for the Indiabowl now. When the invasion first started I did suspect that India would be the biggest winner out of all of this. Australia, Japan, Russia have all been throwing money at India. China is also talking about cooperation. USA has been careful at trying to pressure India but also not offend it through sanctions (but this would look hypocritical to other countries like Turkey).
lmao how can people not see he only brought her up to demoralize westerners and anyone who denigrated her over it played right into the propaganda trap?
Putin has evoked MLK too as an example of "how far the west has strayed" and nobody gave a fuck then.
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russia should be nuked and all russians sterilized so their culture can die off. i dont care anymore about the poow wussian civiwwians
"but what about other countries doing evil shit?" i dont care
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Russians deserve to be fought, no need for propaganda to know it. Rotten country.
I'm so upset rn, especially after reports about Bucha victims
, all these poor people. And all this shit hits twice as hard since ukrainian suburbs looks just like polish ones I'm familiar with. I've had few Ukrainians in my uni group and one of them was from Mariupol, posted a photo of destroyed block where she has grown up, mentioned she has no contact with her grandparents. FFS just let people be angry in the thread without the whole 'holier than thou' bullshit
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based anti-imperialist russia denazifying 10-year-old girls's pussies and asses with their penises!
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this 9-year-old was such a nazi they needed 11 adult men to dig the nazi out of her by ripping her guts out based russia destroying degenerates
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I can use a gun to defend against individual men but no matter how many women I arm and train, a male force will win out in the end, look at afghan women, many armed themselves, many trained cause they knew if they didn't win, they'd be treated as subhumans in the new Taliban society and you know what happened, they lost and got reduced to subhumans
This is a reality, this is why I hate western radical feminists, you live in the west and never have to even comprehend something like this, you instead pre-occupy yourselves with fantasies and the works of fat-ass who never knew the real world
Hey now, not all radfems were fat.
> but no matter how many women I arm and train, a male force will win out in the end
No? Women can fuck men up badly in modern warfare, this isn't the Medieval times of hand to hand combat.
What about us who live in countries where we're not allowed to have guns? Only reason I'm able to get a gun here is if I join a sports' team for shooting ranges, and even then we're not allowed to take the gun we bought home with us. I'm all for protecting myself and put up a good fight, but even pepper spray is banned as a means of self-defence here. >>1124292
And you're insensitive.
Women are too kind and have too much empathy for men. A man is nothing in front of a gun.
And no, you don't have to submit to men. Males are stronger so they can protect women, beat up other males and be cannon fodder. If a male fails to do that by harming a woman, it has absolutely no reason to live. It's defective, unnatural and it should be killed.
>>1124305>Reee, why isn’t everyone agreeing with me!
Anons right, you must be male.>Calling anon insensitive.>Reeing some woman is wrong because she is fat.
Lmao, no brain.
But I do agree? Of course we should and are fully able to protect ourselves, but it's not always as easy as picking up a gun if you don't have a gun easily available. I'm not >>1124284
if that's what you're thinking, but I can understand her frustration.
Of course we can, but by nature males are there to hover around us and serve us. We just have allowed retarded defective men to be in control and breed other defective males. Defective males should be taken out by other men and women of course.>>1124314
Why should a woman fight in a war made by old men?
by god, how do you not understand what I'm trying to say, when you live in a shithole country, you need men to protect you >>1124306
I live next to Afghanistan, In my own nation I have seen the Talibs try to encroach here as well, as awful I find my nation, the only reason we are safe thus far is cause of the army, it sucks but in the real world we have to face the reality of the situation >>1124307
okay your right then, just gladly switch places with me, I'm sure for you its just as bad as your western nation, men can and will slap if you if they think your being modest>>1124315
alright so the women of Afghanistan and Syria just weren't trying hard enough were they in your enlightened western opinion
Radicalized people love politics and having hot takes.>>1124332
Namefags need to be banned. If you spent as much time you spend here searching for a way to leave your country, you could. I'm in a Muslim country too but crying and saying you need men isn't the answer, education and building a careerpath for yourself is.
I mean, I am all for more women politicians, but again how is that relevant to her fighting to protect her country and her people?>>1124360
That's just the male gender role. I don't like gender roles, why would I support that? Sounds like trad nonsense about protectors and providers.
California, to live with my cousin and her family, I have no delusional about what's likely going to be my fate
basically a live in housekeeper, nanny and whatever but I don't care, I'll be able to go the beach without fear of being gang raped, I can walk outside without need of a male and I can finally be free to be myself and not be afraid that I'll be hanged or mob attacked for being a non-Muslim
They don't now, but men should have the natural function to serve and appease us so we can allow them to pass on their genes. The reason they're phisically strong is only because they can beat up other men and weed out the genetically inferior ones, so that the ones we can pick (if we want to) are the best ones. Women are literally the ones that are meant to pick which males to keep around. That's why a man harming a woman is unnatural. Men's only purpose is to provide us with quality genetic material for future generations and protection, so a man who wants to hurt and kill the only reason he's even alive is quite literally retarded.
I'm not trying to say that women also have roles, because women are superior and can have many purposes beside reproduction.>>1124362
And that's because many retarded men were and are still allowed to reproduce. A sane man would never harm a woman.
Its my cousin so I don't expect the worst but a lot of her family looks down on me, cause of my heritage >>1124404
I'm prepared for it, cause it has the same climate and fauna as sindh(where I live), I have always wanted to swim in the sea nonnas, but I was only ever allowed the shallow end where only my feet could teach, while the men could swim further
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>>1124417>the beaches in california are so incredibly beautiful and varied
again the beaches of Sindh are just as beautiful as well, but I'm sure the California beaches will be the next thing
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my paternal family are Jatt, mostly farmers from northern Punjab, while my maternal family are Sardars who are also mostly farmers but their often richer so they think their better then Jatts>>1124421
cause men will gang rape me anon, you can't just go outside in certain areas without your male family relatives and even infront of male family members you have to cover yourself
>>1124424>my paternal family are Jatt, mostly farmers from northern Punjab, while my maternal family are Sardars who are also mostly farmers but their often richer so they think their better then Jatts
That sounds so retarded.
>cause men will gang rape me anon, you can't just go outside in certain areas without your male family relatives and even infront of male family members you have to cover yourself
Are your men literally monkeys? Even your family?
I mean my family members won't rape me but they will consider it indecent If I'm not fully covered >That sounds so retarded.
that's tribalism in a nutshell, this is what actual tribal ends up like, people who are racially, linguistically identical hate your cause your from one tribe over and so your some subhuman rapebaby and or collaborator with some foreign hoard, the stenotype of my people is that we worked with British, which is true but so did a lot of other ethnic group
>>1124441>I go around the house with my dad and brother with only underwear on and no bra
What?! Do you mean like with pajamas on or?..
I know, but expected is not the same as acceptable.>>1124455
I usually wear a shirt, but if it's really warm, like in summer, I don't. Worst thing I got was my brother punching me in the breasts when I drunk his chocolate milk lel. Having your family police your dressing and your body is fucked up and I am happy I don't suffer from that.
Ok I'm gonna reply here from now on.>>1123614>>1124023
Hehe anons you are really sweet, it's funny but I feel a little embarrassed by this attention since I'm really safe and lucky in contrast to people from other cities and localities. But, again, it's so nice of you to worry about me :)>>1124146
Well, as for mayor, I guess it's true, as for everything else I know for a fact that it's true. My friend's and mom's acquantainces live there and they confirm, and my friend's colleague (she's a psychotherapist) is working with children that suffered from violence in Bucha (I don't know the details) now. Surely I'm just an anon and it's only words, but it's all I can offer besides anything that's available in other sources.
As for genocide… Putin & Co want to make it seem like identifying as a Ukrainian culturally and ethnically is extremist and closely tied with russophobia (not just "fuck you, moskal'" level of russophobia but oppression and persecution of Russian-speaking people etc.). For the last 8 years they were trying to make it seem like it's already present in Ukraine: "nazis" torture and kill Russian-speaking people, other people tolerate it and probably think it's ok. So now it gives them the right to kill the "nazis" and "re-educate" others that's got too "ukrainified". And it's not taking someone's culture away, because they've already made it clear that Ukrainian culture is non-existent and was simply made-up not that long ago. Also I don't know if it's true but our media was telling about cases of Russian soldiers burning certain Ukrainian books, historical and written by some authors that lived long ago. I wouldn't be surprised. It sounds completely mad, but I guess Putin sees it as a way to put Ukraine under control and make it like Belarus. I don't know if he fantasizes about empire necessarrily, but he definitely wants some land and a meek neighbor that won't give people of Russia any ideas (about democracy etc.). It's all absurdly similar to the way it was done in the USSR and Russian Empire: persecution and repression of pro-Ukrainian activists and cultural figures of Ukraine and Belarus, elimination of art and literature, at some point - Holodomor. All to make everyone nice and russified enough and quiet.
I knew that Russia would start denying everything and thought they'd start putting the blame on Azov, as they had done before, but I didn't think they'd be saying something about it being staged… I don't even know how to comment on it anymore. It's absolutely crazy that people even outside of Russia believe this propaganda, simply out of being anti-Western (while living in the West…) and having this idealistic image of Mother Russia I suppose. Although it's hard to comprehend why these people can't associate themselves with something else Russian, why they have to consider its politics(?) to be a part of their identity necessarrily? It's crazy there're young educated people in Russia that genuinely want the resurgence of Imperial Russia and despise everything Ukrainian. Surely they're a minority, and the majority of people just think that Ukraine's being liberated from nazis, which isn't much better because they still justify the war and live in a fantasy world. Some people that's always been against Putin also partially believe propaganda… they know it's a war, not "special operation", but they still think some horrible pieces of news coming from Ukraine or western countries are fake, because, I suspect, they're in deep denial, yet they think they're "staying objective".
Of course I don't want to generalize, I know there're Russians who don't believe this shit and I don't hate all Russians or something. I just couldn't imagine these levels of propaganda would be possible in modern world, but here we are. It's devastating to see how people are being raped, tortured and murdered and the whole cities like Mariupol and Kharkiv - destroyed, this generation of children traumatized for life. How these monsters kill even farm animals and stray dogs, and the zoo animals suffer and die because of bombing and humanitarian crisis. While Russia blatantly lies and gaslights the whole world. While "the whole world" punishes Russia by taking nice things away little by little and waits for the next more horrible thing to happen. What the fuck is even happening?
I am so devastated to read what you write anon, these poor people, the russian soldiers are animals. I hope your people hold strong and survive this, I am really happy to see the West support you as much as we can without triggering
It's pretty normal for me I guess. I have other friends that are the same. My brother can go around bare chested, why not me?
I said he punched me wtf. It was not some creepy thing. Sorry your family is shit anon, nothing I can do to help.>>1124501
I said it's normal in my family and some friends, not like, society wide. I am British, from Brighton.>>1124503
Thank you, I thought I was crazy.
Lmao. Prudes are really funny when they resort to the naturalist argument to argue against the most natural state of the human body. There is nothing natural about disliking nudity. >>1124555
Sure, but it's still warm. And I prefer having open windows when inside and hanging around the pool anyway. My parents usually keep the A/C on in the living room.
Anon, tons of Russian women support Russia's imperialism. I read that old babushkas are some of Putin's biggest supporters. >>1122119
Is this from tumblr? I don't doubt Russias treat their ethnic minorities shittily but this has nothing to do with the Ukrainian war and shame on this person for trying to downplay the war.
Think USA out powers them and possibly china due to sheer manpower.
And yeah that's my point they just fucked up things more in syria and congo.
how are we winning?
Russia is not winning at all
where do you get this from?
I am Russian and sometimes I am exposed to our propaganda and even they are less optimistic than you
>>1124789>>now you have 150k new troops conscripted and ready to "have contract signed"
There are numerous reports that hundreds of Russian regular soldiers handed in papers that they are refusing to go to Ukraine
In addition to that there are continuous reports that Russia has lost more high profile commanders within one month of this war than during years of the chechen campaigns
>your army at the north is holding hostage all the soldiers needed to defend Kiev
don't even know how to comment on that one
>Ukraine has less men and less guns
they have real motivation and a clear idea what they are fighting for. 18-19-20 year olds from Russia who are fighting in Ukraine have no fucking idea what they are doing there why they were sent there. Add poor logistics and provision supply. Numbers don't matter when you are an unskilled idiot without clear motivation
Ntayrt but even if russia has conscripted more, the majority of these men are not experienced in combat, it takes a lot of time and resources to train effective soldiers.
Most of russias equipment i.e. arms and planes/tanks etc. are old and outdated, most of the people operating them are not well trained on the shitty equipment they have to use.
Some of their airforce doesn't even have working GPS so they have to use portable ones to be able to actually fly their planes.
Wars are not won by sheer numbers of people and numbers of bullets, you need to be able to use them effectively.
>>1124799>There are numerous reports that hundreds of Russian regular soldiers handed in papers that they are refusing to go to Ukraine. In addition to that there are continuous reports that Russia has lost more high profile commanders within one month of this war than during years of the chechen campaigns
I was talking about your conscriptionhttps://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-drafts-134500-conscripts-says-they-wont-go-ukraine-2022-03-31/
>don't even know how to comment on that one
Not sure what you are confused by. Your army that retreated in Belarus means that Ukrainians can not move their main army from Kiev region to help in the East and you don't even have to do anything. They have to keep the main army there to protect the city.
>they have real motivation and a clear idea what they are fighting for. 18-19-20 year olds from Russia who are fighting in Ukraine have no fucking idea what they are doing there why they were sent there. Add poor logistics and provision supply. Numbers don't matter when you are an unskilled idiot without clear motivation
Numbers are very important. These 18-19-20 year olds are useful as frontline troops to keep the Ukrainians busy while the professionals do the real killing. Ukrainians do not have the numbers to keep up with attrition, you do. Your population is 3 times theirs.>>1124800
Their experience doesn't matter, they are just there as front line troops, their use is to keep the Ukrainians shooting at them while the professionals do the real killing. Experience doesn't help against artillery, which is what they will mostly face. As for equipment, Ukraine is running out of soldiers that know how to use it, they are also suffering attrition, even if western media does not talk about it.
Yes these inexperienced troops are basically cannon fodder for the Ukrainians, easily wiped out due to their shit training and equipment and poor knowledge of the areas they are attempting to infiltrate.
Ukraine is getting a lot of arms from other countries, they also have artillery and the soldiers fighting on their side know they are not just cannon fodder, they are actually fighting for a cause.
And yes russia is attempting to slowly siege cities in Ukraine, that's basically what attrition is and is being widely discussed, not sure why you think that's a secret, that's how russia has fought most of its recent wars (e.g. syria).
Western countries will continue to supply Ukraine with the resources they need and ultimately that is more resources than what Russia has.
It seems this will be a drawn out conflict because that's the only way russia has a chance of NATO not getting involved, they are betting on the fact their soldiers won't starve or be killed before all the Ukrainian soldiers are but Ukraine is continuing to get soldiers and resources from all over the world. Russia is not.
>>1124808>I was talking about your conscription
Putin's words don't matter.
And I was talking about those who are already in the service. Many of them refuse to fight in Ukraine.
>Not sure what you are confused by. Your army that retreated in Belarus means that Ukrainians can not move their main army from Kiev region to help in the East and you don't even have to do anything. They have to keep the main army there to protect the city
They wouldn't have moved their forces to help the east anyway. Retreating means to let the Ukrainians take a break.
>Numbers are very important. These 18-19-20 year olds are useful as frontline troops to keep the Ukrainians busy while the professionals do the real killing.
You are saying that they are basically almost meaningless soon-to-be-minced-meat, and as a Russian, even though I don't support any of this and I don't have any warm feelings towards those who willingly went to kill Ukrainins, this is not about winning. Sending your people to die is not winning. Especially when these people finished school one or two summers ago.
>Your population is 3 times theirs.
You's going to restore the economy? who's gonna work?
Pushing 145 million of people to live in a medieval-like state whilst sending to jail or killing all those who disagree is not winning
Russia would have wone if we hadn't started the war. This is how you win wars, you just don't start them
Ukrainian soldiers are just as much cannon fodder as Russian ones, both countries have conscript armies with a strong small core of professionals. I never said it's a secret btw, I was just mentioning it. My estimation is that Russia can deal with a war of attrition better than Ukraine, West can send all the weapons they want, if you level their main cities like you did Mariupol, then they can't do anything about it other than get buried in the rubble. Morale doesn't matter when you are in pieces. They just don't have the numbers.>>1124820>Putin's words don't matter.And I was talking about those who are already in the service. Many of them refuse to fight in Ukraine.
When did I say Putin's words matter? Also refusing to fight while in the army means you get shot. After a few get executed the rest will obey, it's what has always happened.
>They wouldn't have moved their forces to help the east anyway. Retreating means to let the Ukrainians to take a break.
A break sure, but their army can't offer relief, which is what's important.
>You are saying that they are basically almost meaningless soon-to-be-minced-meat, and as a Russian, even though I don't support any of this and I don't have any warm feelings towards those who willingly went to kill Ukrainins, this is not about winning. Sending your people to die is not winning. Especially when these people finished school one or two summers ago.
I mean, yeah they are basically sent to their (gruesome and torturous) deaths. That's what war is like, especially for conscripted infantry, they are slaves for Christ's sake. I don't know what you expected to happen to them? It doesn't matter if they are young, that's in fact even better for the government because they won't have to pay money to some widow. And yeah, sending your young men to die can very much be winning. That's how you won WW2, by throwing your young men and boys to the meat grinder. Look at the statistics of how many boys born like 15 years before the war survived it to find out what your government is willing to do. Doesn't matter if it's aggressive of defensive warfare, all they care about is winning.
>You's going to restore the economy? who's gonna work? Pushing 145 million of people to live in a medieval-like state whilst sending to jail or killing all those who disagree is not winning. Russia would have wone if we hadn't started the war. This is how you win wars, you just don't start them
Well you are very correct, but Putin doesn't care. He wins the war by occupying parts of Ukraine and the level of living of the Russian people is pretty irrelevant. Your economy is dead anyway from the sanctions. At this point he is basically solving the unemployment issue by throwing young uneducated men to the Ukrainian artillery.
>>1124830>That's how you won WW2, by throwing your young men and boys to the meat grinder.
Excuse me but in WW2 Russia had to defend itself, you fight or you die. man, woman, child - doesn't matter, if they didn't fight, they died. The compariosn is inappropriate.
>Doesn't matter if it's aggressive of defensive warfare, all they care about is winning.
Not true. When a country defends itself the stakes are its existance. If a country attacks the stakes are its governers' existance. And nobody's going to fight for Putin's sake as they would fight for their motherland.
>Also refusing to fight while in the army means you get shot.
This is НКВД mentality that doesn't work anymore, since the chechen campaigns for sure. Many will just flee and give in to Ukrainians like they are doing now.
The Ukrainian soldiers have a purpose to their fight, so even though they may get killed they are not fighting just to be killed, they are fighting to save their people and country.
The russian conscripts don't even necessarily know why they are fighting, they are being used as human shields to an extent.
So even though frontline soldiers on both sides are at great risk I wouldn't class the Ukrainian soldiers as cannon fodder as the majority of them have a reason to fight and have an emotional connection to this war, they are not just there to shield the rest of the army, they are there to actually fight for their country.
International fighters will continue to flock to Ukraine but additionally numbers don't mean everything, look at the Vietnam war for example.
As I said, the government doesn't care. They have their goals and they care about achieving them. The rest is just smoke for the people to gaze at. As for actually thinking that soldiers can just get up and surrender.https://youtu.be/wxRr9GiHDVk
They have literal Chechens serving as commissars. >>1124844
For me? It doesn't matter. For Putin? Achieving his objectives in Ukraine.>>1124848>The Ukrainian soldiers have a purpose to their fight, so even though they may get killed they are not fighting just to be killed, they are fighting to save their people and country.>The russian conscripts don't even necessarily know why they are fighting, they are being used as human shields to an extent. >So even though frontline soldiers on both sides are at great risk I wouldn't class the Ukrainian soldiers as cannon fodder as the majority of them have a reason to fight and have an emotional connection to this war, they are not just there to shield the rest of the army, they are there to actually fight for their country.
Cannon fodder simply means you are expendable mincemeat. You can believe w/e you want, doesn't change what you are.
As for Vietnam war, you know Americans were winning right? Like, insanely so. They lost because of politics not military. If they were allowed to go on with it the North would absolutely lose the war. Numbers matter, especially when the technology between the two adversaries is comparable.
I don't know cannon fodder is when they are treated more like objects than people, as purely expendable resources of war and I don't think the Ukrainians are treating their soldiers that way.
The point is that the more powerful and numerous army lost and that army is more powerful than russias army and Vietnam had less resources than Ukraine.
As I said above anon, Americans did not really lose. They changed politics and decided that they don't want to support the war anymore. They were overwhelmingly more successful in killing the Vietcong than the alternative. Also regarding cannon fodder, they Ukrainians absolutely treat (some) of their soldiers like this, especially the fresh conscripts who are not specialized. Conscripts are slaves that the army will sacrifice to protect themselves, themselves being the professionals that actually make up the army.>>1124866
Well I will be here anon. I wonder what you think will change tomorrow.
Personally I think they changed their politics because they knew they were gonna lose or have to suffer a insanely large loss in order to win, which the public wouldn't find acceptable so I really wouldn't class that as winning but I think that's obviously personal opinions we both have rather than an objective fact, but in the history books they didn't win, we can speculate why they didn't win (whether it was an actual choice to lose or their hand was forced due to circumstances) but it doesn't really matter, the big guy lost officially in that case.
I do think treating their soldiers like cannon fodder is happening on a much larger scale in regards to the russian troops and if I was a russian I would be outraged that so many young men are being pointlessly sacrificed. I don't think there's that same attitude in Ukraine because they didn't choose this war, they were forced to defend themselves.
I'm also gonna wind down for the night but will be back tomorrow if you have further points to discuss.
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This is what I'm talking about
Gorbachev absolutely cared. He was not Stalin, he was a reformist. >>1125618
Anon, when countries run out of 18-20 year old boys to conscript the just up the age limit. Russia will just conscript 20-25 and then 25-30. It's what has always happened.
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What does a swatiska even hwve to do with this whole situation? I think this is just a way to create propoganda and ruin Ukraine psychologically by airing out terrible abuse like this. I also don't think stuff like this should get on news without victim
's consent, which 10 year old child or their parent wants their rape on news to haunt them forever just because it'll be some propoganda? That's ill.
They talk about it in general though, not showing individual victims
. I think it's important to talk about it, because it's true. There are children of both sexes that were raped, women raped in front of their children, teen girls that's been raped for 1-2 weeks: some got pregnant. As for who exactly did it, those were from different parts of Russia, I saw Pskov, Ryazan, Ulan-Ude… (there's a list of units that were in Kyiv oblast) They say, there were lots of yakuts and buryats particularly in Bucha. >>1126219
So far it seems like some Chechens and Russians see this war as an opportunity to kill one another despite fighting on one side. There were talks about Chechens not giving Russians a chance to desert, threatening their life, and something about mutual killings or using Chechens as cannon fodder implied by Chechen captive.
Chechens on Russian side love to make laughable tiktoks where they heroically fire guns at windows, empty houses and the traffic light. Ramzan Kadyrov pretended to be in Ukraine a few times only to shamefully expose himself with the treacherous little details like geolocation or Rosneft gas station in the background.
There are also two Chechen volunteer battalions fighting on Ukrainian side named after Sheikh Mansur and Dzhokhar Dudayev. They hate being under Russia's control and both Putin and Kadyrov - his father is considered a traitor since he switched sides in Second Chechen War. Chechnya was also heavily shelled by Russia, like Mariupol now.
By the way, regarding Putin, Russians and Islamists (I see it was discussed in the context of Syrian war): it seems like Putin doesn't really care about Islam in Chechnya. I mean, it got more islamized under Ramzan Kadyrov: he made women cover their heads, first in state institutions, then on television and in the universities/school, then, I guess, everywhere outside. He supports Sharia law (although not its pure form) and "honor killing". I also remember this story: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/18/chechen-teenager-forced-marriage-russia
Especially this part:>Russia’s children’s rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov caused a scandal last week by coming out in favour of the right of older men to marry teen brides.>“Emancipation and sexual maturity come earlier in the Caucasus, let’s not be hypocritical,” he told Russian News Service radio on Thursday, adding: “There are places where women are already shriveled by the age of 27, and look about 50 to us.”
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>>1125618>have an ageing population with very few young men and boys>start a ground war with your neighbour and get most of them killed
How the hell was anyone convinced that Putin was some master strategist before this?
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Dehumanization of Ukrainians and the concept of Great Russia that was robbed of territories that it should rightfully have has been a thing for decades; people are not immune to propaganda regardless of gender. When you watch these videos of regular Russians being approached in the streets and they speak in support of the war you'll see most of the time women have gentler way of perceiving this and don't speak of murder but of "unity under Russian flag" and "helping these people"; like many people I'm sure many of them seeing gruesome war crimes committed by the soldiers just believe the lies of their government that Ukrainians did it to themselves to bait west into giving them more weapons or so. If you really want to not believe something you'll always find the way.
Video where picrel is from is here:https://twitter.com/spideesense1/status/1510588315988381705
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samefag, on top of that, over the past 7 years people would be sent to jail for liking or reposting a meme that shows the govt and Putin's polparty in a negative light, same goes w religion. People would either have to pay 1k USD fine (which is a luxury for the most russians unless you are a Moscow rat) becuz 'u hurt their feelsies and bad propaganda. Last year, a single mother with 2 kids who also works 2 jobs has to choose between 1k fine or years in jail over commenting 'govt bad' under one of the news articles. It goes as deep as they would make sure to stalk you for years and make up any fucking excuse possible to set u to jail, for example, here's a story of a child (his friends got sent to jail too) that is facing years in jail for playing Minecraft. You know nothing about what it's like to live in Russia.
A lot of people are now terrified of speaking out because the 'no to war' or even the WAR word itself is banned for a month now, they catch everyone they can at protests and give them firstly a fine, then years of jail time even if you just stood somewhere in the corner with an empty paper. Idgaf I am replying to all of the baits in the world, but even what I am saying is the tip of iceberg.https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/02/10/minecraft-terrorism
I wanted to post about it because I've lost my shit at this quote from the Russian galaxy brain who said>the vote on suspending Russia from the Human Rights Council "is an attempt by the United States to maintain its dominant position and total control to continue its attempt at human rights colonialism in international relations."
Human rights colonialism LMFAO, an unprecedented sequence of words. I see that Kuzmin has mastered the twitterfag tactic of throwing in amerifat outrage buzzwords so nobody will question you. Too bad the world isn't Twitter.
Also love how he didn't mind Russia being a part of "human rights colonialism in international relations" until it got kicked out. >"Today is not the time nor the place for theatrics, or these kinds of extremely theatrical performances like the one presented by Ukraine. In fact the draft resolution we are considering today has no relationship to the actual human rights situation on the ground," Kuzmin said.
Another good one, literally an elementary school bully thinking he can DARVO his ass out of getting called out.
If a fictional villain was so stupid and moustache-twirling smug, people wouldn't buy it.
>>1127424>Society's hatred towards Ukrainians preceeds war by many years.
Excuse me? Do you know that every fourth Russian has family in Ukraine? Doesn't mean they were pro-Ukrainian but there has never been any hatred towards Ukraine in Russia at a large scale. Ofc there are always some small groups of retarded people, that happens everywhere, but you seem to be completely not knowledgebale about things in Russia when you say things like above.
I can post dozens of videos where Russians speak on camera they are against war and that wouldn't mean anything to you whilst it takes a lot of courage to say stuff like that even without being recorded on camera. I don't say there aren't people in Russia who support Putin's war, quite a lot, but not the majority.
You know nothing how Russia has lived last 10-15 years, and yet you talk about hatred towards Ukraine. I can't even donate to anybody or anything connected to Ukraine because hello prison sentences for 10-15 years. >>1124870
ok anon, I am >>1124866
back>It doesn't matter. For Putin? Achieving his objectives in Ukraine.
The thing is nobody understands what his objectives are. I don't understand what should happen for the war to stop. I heard Zelensky said they were ready to become a neutral state that wouldn't join any military union. I thought that would be enough because that basically exludes NATO presence on the territories of Ukraine but it seems it's not enough.
There are rumours Putin wants to cut Ukraine off the sea but that's delusional. Joining Lugansk and Donetsk to the lands of Russia is not better and I don't believe it can come true. It's impossible, just impossible. The war has no clear achievable objectives. >>1127657
Every Russian official is retarded. All I want to know is of they are really that much brainless and believe what they are saying or it's hypocrisy at a godlike level.
girl, do it, I beg you. I need to tune into Russia's bs more often just to cheer myself up in those horrid times.>>1127661>Every Russian official is retarded. All I want to know is of they are really that much brainless and believe what they are saying or it's hypocrisy at a godlike level.
I think they are used to brainwashing their people by throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, like >>1105419
Men are literally the primary victims
of this war, stop acting like Hilary Clinton.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Also men are literally created to fight for their women and children, that's the oml purpose men serve in nature. If you're a man but can't even fight in a war, you're better of killing yourself.
Women and children are getting raped but the soldiers who are also killing and raping women are the victims
in your eye? Both sides are attacking civillians and killing them, the soldiers are the one killing random people they literally can't be the victims
Did you check the link? It's an article by a pro-Putin pseudo-journalist, it's not Russia
Not 90%. From the UN's site (https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2022/04/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-5-april-2022
>From 4 a.m. on 24 February 2022, when the Russian Federation’s armed attack against Ukraine started, to 24:00 midnight on 4 April 2022 (local time), the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) recorded 3,675 civilian casualties in the country: 1,480 killed and 2,195 injured. This included:
>a total of 1,480 killed (331 men, 211 women, 22 girls, and 40 boys, as well as 61 children and 815 adults whose sex is yet unknown)
It's so depressing.>>1127780
lolcow isn't a femcel site. Most of us here have boyfriends or husbands.
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Sure, a lot of young moids who are terminally online fall for the 'masculine' image that Putin's PR team is projecting but if they were actually in Russia and were required to join the war, they would change their minds in a heartbeat
Hopefully Ukraine. I don't want the resurgence of Russian Empire/USSR and my country to become russian republic or the second Belarus. Also I worry about normal Russians and I want them to have decent life, too.
Although not sure what exactly would winning mean. I mean, it's probably too fairytailish if Russia gets rid of Putin and substitutes him with someone who doesn't have any imperial ambitions. Otherwise I think there'll still be a threat of another invasion, sooner or later. Unless there'll be some kind of alliance that would make it too risky for Russia, idk.
And another question is… again, what does winning mean in this case? Russian side always names different goals of this so-called operation. They have already failed with Kyiv (even though now they say it wasn't really their goal, yet they did want to overthrow the "Kyiv regime", so…); they're not really succeeding in "demilitarizing" Ukraine and it won't happen anyways, especially if they keep giving away their own machines hehe, and I doubt that Ukraine will comply and willingly demilitarize itself because it means suicide; "denazifying" is some vague shit that means nothing, they can easily tell Russians they've achieved it and vatniks will believe them just like that so I guess that's a pretty convenient "goal". The worst case scenario is if they manage to occupy at least Eastern Ukraine (or Eastern and Southern Ukraine) but as far as I know Ukrainian forces are still capable of fighting (and they're currently counterattacking in some directions) and no one's going to give up those territories. Although Russian forces have just focused on Donbass and it's getting really tough there. It's their last chance to win something and have their Victory Parade on the 9th of May. Hope they won't get it. Also recently Russian propagandists and politicians started saying that they fight with NATO, not Ukraine (after Ukrainian missiles hit cruiser Moskva), so not sure how they plan to win, looks more like an attempt to save face if they have to retreat or something: surely they could easily beat up "dumb Ukrainians" but those are helped by the big meanie, so they did everything they could or something like that. Or they'll show a few ruined buildings (they have lots of options in this regard) and say they were NATO laboratories that aren't a threat anymore or something.
Russia will win the conflict on the ground in Ukraine, it's basically a forgone conclusion. Ukraine is a smaller country armed with old Soviet era weaponry, nothing the west is giving Ukraine is going to change that, it's just going to prolong the conflict and kill more people.
Long term it's probably going become a larger war that avoids direct military confrontation between Russia and NATO. More proxy wars will happen and the main conflict will be an economic war of attrition. I expect living standards and quality of life in the west to deteriorate. As the misery index rises so will the far right.
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The Ukraine government social media just loves being as terrible as possible. First with the glorification of Ukrainians who collaborated with Nazis that ended up offending Poles, and now removing Emperor Hirohito from their video about fascism in WWII (but they kept Hitler and Mussolini in it) because it angered Japanese nationalists.
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>>1150361>Stepan Bandera>Roman Shukhevych
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Okay I'm starting to get worried. They are getting more and more vocal day by day
Damn you burgers are obnoxious. Of course it's just a story to you.
I'm Euro and close to the war too but you don't see me MoVinG OnTo the next story. Panic and attention will always die down because it was a shocking thing that happened and then you get used to it, it's no longer news and you carry on living your fucking life. Who cares about a washed up druggie and a priviliged mentally ill woman. Only a privileged American would come to this thread and comment on how it's ''no longer a relevant hot piece''. Why even come here to say that? Grinds my gears.
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This made me fucking furious. Seriously?? 'Poor men, they are forced by their circumstances to commit rape!! They were just under pressure because of the war'. Tell this to the fucking 9 year old whose body was dumped into a pile of corpses after hse was raped you fat fuck
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This is so easy to read between the lines. The Russian military has been badly exposed in this conflict and the mystique of Russian military power has been undone. Russia was already a middling economy with a smaller GDP than Italy. Putin has been surprised by the collective response of the international community and it has done generational damage to the Russian economy. Putin had delusions of Russia still being a great power but in the space of 2 months, he has weakened Russia immeasurably and emboldened its enemies. They are now desperate to save face, so want to project an image of an unpredictable and dangerous power but the reality is the Russian people and more importantly, its elites, have no appetite for this war, let alone a nuclear one. He's looking for a way out and he's hoping these threats will lead to negotiations that confer concessions that he can use to claim some sort of victory. This "special military operation" will be remembered as a colossal strategic blunder.
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Not sure how legit it is because not many new sites wrote about this but it would make sense given there are footahes of him where he looks ill. God, please let the surgeon's scalpel slip
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Russia requested a meeting at the UN tomorrow to tell their side of the story kek.
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ugh bestie so true. israel has been snatching america's weave since before aipac. people have spilled the tea on israel and got cancelled big time oof
(im not anti semitic bc scarlett johanson is hot to me so shut it)