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No. 1174977
Cats>dogs, obvi.
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Short dudes are hot, (5’5”+, I’m 5’5” never would be OTG anyone shorter) especially skinny little emo otters, Edward Furlong looks like he is easily overpowered and I would tie him up and beat him and have him whimper, I bet he whines so good
No. 1175029
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>>1175021And another unpopular opinion is hell yeah I still would. His voice is the same boyish cute thing
No. 1175089
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Students who consistently display negative behaviours in the classroom are 9 times out of 10 are due to a negative home environment. Behavioural issues unintentionally are cries for help and should be noted, then be followed up with discussion and support to get to the root cause of the behaviour. Which almost always is a shitty current home life. The kid isn't being a dick to be a dick, usually. (I am a teacher, this is a very unpopular opinion for some reason? Boggles my brain.)
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That one race changing filter on Gradient wasn't actually racist. It was interesting and cute, obviously not created with malice in mind
>t. WOC
No. 1175297
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>>1175288Fuck yeah I'm gonna be a power Karen when I get old. You can't stop me Becky.
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>>1175288someone's jealous of these hips
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>>1175295this is untrue kek
No. 1175364
>>1175021Physically I like short guys (prefer them even) but the last few years short men have become so consumed with bitterness over the fact that they're not to everyones taste… and when they're that bitter they stop being to my taste too.
I just want a short guy with no obvious chip on his shoulder.
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>>1175331Yes I can't wait to be oppressive, especially to you!
No. 1175383
>>1175372Inb4 we find out the old dude she liked went after an older woman, probably someone his age, and that's why she's mad.
See
>>1175295 where she says
>you don’t have anymore desirability when you become an old woman, it’s men who have a sick fetish for walking alive corpses that only desire you. She's definitely mad because of personal reasons, most likely because she didn't "get picked"
No. 1175388
>>1175377Some old women might be bad but I've never had an old woman attempt to rape, harass or sexually abuse me. No old woman tell me I was
the ideal age for mating' when I was 13. No old woman tell me jokingly*that they wanted to take me to a bar to make his older exgf seethe. Those are stuff old men did to me, though.
Stop acting like old women are the evil force keeping men misogynist. You're the one being misogynistic yourself shitting on older women as if women's only value is their youth and fuckability in pedoscrotes eyes.
No. 1175399
>>1175392Oh my god, you are so up your own ass it's actually embarrassing. Like you're causing me physical discomfort over here,
nonnie. Based that you hate men, for sure, but you don't have to be such a dramatic n-log about it.
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>>1175288I’ve been waiting for an excuse to use this reaction image, thanks nonna.
No. 1175620
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Many women stay with abusive men because they're pickmes + they find it sexually exciting. They think they can fix him, they think they're not like other gworls because they're patient and forgiving even after abuse. The sexual excitement - most women deal with boring ass low testosterone soyboys who spend their free time scrolling the web. Violent men, men with anger issues, are sexually exciting and there is some sort of thrill. They like the idea of being the innocent maiden victim, hurt by a strong man. I'm talking about the women who keep coming back to these men again and again.
This is a truly unpopular opinion so go off. I'm not a scrote and abused women still have my sympathy.
No. 1175628
>>1175620Stopped reading after
>they find it sexually excitingEveryone report for scrote.
No. 1175648
>>1175628Not saying getting punched in the face soaks their panties. I mean more like being forced into an extremely submissive state is slightly arousing in a subconscious way. Some of them don't know that this is what keeps them coming back. Also the cycle they often live through where the scrote is all lovey dovey afterwards and pleads for forgiveness, that's attractive to them as well.
The intensity of the abuse cycle is exciting. The drama, the extreme feelings, pain, sex. I believe we deep down crave this intensity in different ways, some, abuse.
No. 1175654
>>1175648isn't that just
victims seeking familiarity so that's why they seem to get with partners who are all
abusive? because that is familiar to them? i swear i read this shit somewhere.
No. 1175667
>>1175663>women who got sexually abused date old menSource?
>men who got abused end up fagsSource?
No. 1175685
>>1175663This is such bullshit. The being sexually abused by men shit is used by assholes to both explain why lesbians exist (you're just traumatized and won't give men a chance!) or to explain why women date scrotes (not going to specify shitty, since it's practically standard that they're shitty). It's such fucking bullshit. Never mind that it's sadly enough so fucking common for that to happen to women, you just can't extrapolate anything from it. Correlation doesn't equal causation, especially when it's so fucking common for scrotes to molest anyone and anything. It's more likely that women who keep going back to
abusive scrotes have such low self esteem, that they believe they don't deserve/can't get anything better, it's a form of self harm. Many replicate DV they saw in their own home while growing up or already had shit self esteem because of parental abuse. Not anything sexual.
No. 1175693
>>1175685Based. Also like 1/3 women and 1/5 men get sexually harassed by men in their childhood so… The numbers just don't add up.
It's probably a retarded scrote trying to bait though.
No. 1175703
>>1175648The same as people who experience 'hypersexuality' in response to abuse.. it does happen sometimes but anyone knowingly taking advantage of a person in that state is scum.
I used to be in a bdsm community, I wasnt sub myself but after a while it was plain to see that half of the sub women there were poorly coping abuse
victims that needed a real friend to step in and stop them. Men were only too happy to hear about their past abuse… and then repeat it under the guise "but it's fun this time" It was pretty fucked up and with all the 'yay sex positivity space, no judgement' you couldn't say shit to stop it happening. That weighed on me after.
No. 1177544
>>1176836Blue jeans + boots.
>>1177538Imagine if a bunch of strangers did that to you. It's just weird and annoying. It's even worse when the shippers harass a real person for "getting in the way"
No. 1177550
>>1177545>I think people who write fanfiction about real people just see them as vessels/characters to project their fantasies onto though.They definitely do, celebs are just blank templates and a visual reference for whatever stories they want to write. I see shipping and fic as two separate things, for the latter you don't necessarily have to think they're real or harass them or any of that crazy shit.
I've been into a fictional pairing lately and ended up reading some RPF of the actors too even though I couldn't care less about them as people. Mostly the appeal was that they could completely diverge from the canon characterization without it being awkwardly OOC, but you still have the same image in your head of how they look.
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Anons who shit on the appearances of female cows have scrote mentality. This is a womens space and nitpicking over a womans nasolabial folds and fatness adds nothing to the conversation, this is scrote behavior. These are cows for a reason, posting someone because of their appearance would make for a shit thread. Males however should be roasted for everything about them, including their ugly mugs.
No. 1177776
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>>1177772Samefag, it also gives an outlet for dysphoria and prevents women from transitioning.
No. 1177789
>>1177776that is stupid. All drag is over the top retardness and I assure you it does not help woman with DYsPhOrIa. It proabaly makes it worst.
Why should dressing up like a colour vomit of a 80 punk would help you with dysphoria when no sane person looks like that?
The only thing I have to admit is the effort some put in it.
No. 1177812
>>1177808I'm thin but wouldn't comment on an overweight or average weight woman's looks unless the topic on-hand is bodyweight. I agree.
Though I think /snow/ and /ot/fags are different anons, this board is more laidback than snow which gives PULL vibes sometimes. Especially when the anons are jealous sex workers dunking on fellow sex workers who earn more.
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>>1177772>>1177776I want drag kings, but with visual kei aesthetics. That'd be really cool IMO
No. 1177842
>>1177826The delusion that women weren't born to perform femininity and that a woman can dress however she wants?
>>1177827Takarazuka Revue Company kinda has that look? Vidrel
>>1177835There are even a lot of femmes and regular straight feminine women who sometimes perform as Drag Kings or something similar to it, because wanting that freedom is so common. Men also love to gatekeep masculinity and pretend that only they can do it and that it's just so natural, that they aren't performing like fucking clowns themselves.
No. 1178032
>>1177776Drag kings are not as bad as drag kings but they still look like they smell bad and look like shit.
>>1177842Based Takarazuka lover.
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I hate Hatsune Miku and all those people who collect her shit merchandise.
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>>1178816Shut the fuck up.
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>>1178820It had to be done!
I'll admit that the new snow miku does slap tho. I'll give you that.
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>>1178816shit on my waifu, get the knifeu
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Armpit hair looks good on women, as long as it's thick. Not sure why, but sparse hairs gross me out (I don't like that one Sophia Loren pic)
No. 1180988
>>1180978I don't feel negativity towards women who use men period, and I get tired of all the Mary Sue morality policing around it by other women. Men aren't gonna think you're "one of the good ones" scolding other women, they're just gonna think you're another stupid bitch to exploit when it's opportune to do so. Meanwhile men have congregated in unison to take advantage and gaslight women for centuries. I NEVER see men put down other men for being shitty to women UNLESS there is a motive to whiteknight to get laid or receive their attention.
When are women going to unapologetically stand by female selfish motivations and actions? Men won't change and we're only gaming ourselves to pretend there's a higher ground when reality is the universe doesn't give a fuck about our martyrdom.
No. 1181005
>>1177762I can only speak for myself, but I pick on things that can be changed within a day and is within a cow's capability to change immediately if they chose to ie. Poor hygiene, bad clothes, shitty makeup, spending habits, behavior, etc.
Body shaming is shitty because yeah it's not a linear path and even a few months of solid choices isn't always enough time to make a remarkable difference. It just seems unfair for example to dunk on someone's body if there's demonsonstrable proof they've been trying, and tbh anons who bully anyway come off as just wanting the cow in question to fail–and those anons seem like cows.
No. 1181072
>>1181020What physical affection? I always hear this but it sounds like a meme to me. Or it's cultural.
Women I know don't do any more physically affectionate stuff than a hug as a greeting (which males also do quite often) and they definitely don't stare at other naked or half naked women because that's seen as rude and creepy. And avert their eyes when going near underwear shops or at least don't outright stare because it's embarrassing.
What physical stuff aside hugs is normal in your culture between female friends?
No. 1181408
>>1181384I know too many people who'll stay in the most mediocre relationships for years because 'well he hasn't cheated or hit me' so they don't quite feel justified in leaving. That and they share a lease or a car or a bill of some sort and that somehow becomes a bigger obstacle than it should be. They are by no means happier than alot of single people are. They've more day to day stress from constant petty disagreements and they've no space to get away from the source of it or to really think their options out. This limbo drags on for years after the real happiness has faded. That to me is a scarier prospect than remaining single long term. I've wasted maybe a couple years to that shit myself but that's nothing compared to what I've seen friends and family endure.
I mean a good relationship is something to cherish but most just have an expiration date, enjoy the good years but there's no prizes handed out for enduring years of misery all in the name of loyalty and perseverance. It's a trap to get too invested in saving a clearly sinking ship. I wish girls were taught more about 'when you ought to leave' 'what's a reasonable amount of fighting or stress within a relationship' Stuff like that to balance out the view. Instead we have women thinking any relationship is somehow better than being alone. Scrotes love playing into that too. That belief only benefits the worst type of man.
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>>1181647>>1181639Nonnies reminded me of this tweet. But wtf else is the poor animal supposed to do? Just starve to death? Apparently dogs eat people more often and sooner so there’s also that info
No. 1181728
>>1175388t. sheltered retard who doesn't know old pick mes exist
fat kek
No. 1181763
>>1181648>>1181639Pretty sure they did studies and found that dogs do it too, and there's no evidence that they treat their masters differently than any other dead body. There’s a report from the Journal of Forensic and Legal Medicine about a 2010 case where an aneurysm
victim’s face had been eaten overnight by her dog while her cats didn’t so much as a nibble. A 2015 study found that in 24% of all the cases they examined, dogs had begun eating their masters in under 24 hours — and some of them even chose to do so in spite of having normal dog food available.
>“One possible explanation for such behavior is that a pet will try to help an unconscious owner first by licking or nudging, but when this fails to produce any results the behavior of the animal can become more frantic and in a state of panic, can lead to biting.” This may be more likely to occur in an anxiety-prone, fearful canine, according to Rando, “So it’s not necessarily that the dog wants to eat, but eating gets stimulated when they taste blood.”>“The case involves a middle-aged woman who got too drunk and passed out. Her dog, a red setter, had started biting her face while she was unconscious. She later died, but the dog couldn’t even wait a whole day to munch on his owner — and started chewing on her face within 16 hours of the woman last being seen alive.”But all animals possibly do this, even a hamster.
No. 1181789
>>1181728Stop trying to start the same infight again. Old men are worse, it's literally facts because raping, harassing or killing young women is much more common for old men than it ever is for old women.
Worst an old lady is going to do is tell you to cover up or try to set you up with her son if she thinks you're pretty, men her age on the other hand would sexually harass you, catcall you and try to feel you up in the same situations.
No. 1181917
>>1181913most men are emotionally and mentally
abusive and plenty are physically
abusive. at best, most of them are just highly dysfunctional and a waste of time. this is a good development as far as romantic relationships with men go.
No. 1181918
>>1181917No yeah in my post I’m not referring to actually
abusive men, and I also specifically didn’t say men because I’ve seen it happen in friendships/relationships with women too. Idk I have been in damaging relationships and experienced sexual assault, and those were with men who absolutely didn't set off any red flags at all. I’m just trying to say I think it’s best to develop awareness and communication skills, but it is good that women are becoming less tolerant overall
No. 1181937
>>1181913I disagree to an extent. I think social media has been good in that people talk more openly about abuse. My step mum loves to
victim shame and did it all throughout my teenage and early 20s. I felt so isolated until people confirmed through their own experiences that I was a
victim and it wasn't a bad thing. I didn't deserve what I got and it wasn't a symptom of me being a terrible person. It's really fucking depressing but everyone of my friends has had their boyfriend/fiancé/husband hit them or break objects/punch walls to intimadate them. Cheating is more common than I realised. When my parents divorced due to infidelity my family was treated like freaks, kids mocked me and bullied me. Wasn't until I grew up my own parents told me about those kids parents infidelity but they stayed together for the kids. I've been cheated on by 2 out of 3 boyfriends. My friends have been cheated on or been the cheaters. For a period with my last ex I was seriously contemplating forgiving him for cheating and being mature about the whole thing. Fuck that. No. I've been alone nearly 2 years now and at this point I may as well continue to hold out for that one guy that's not going to be a total dick. I also will never put up with any signs I have already witnessed because I know once a line is crossed trust is gone. I'm not being a martyr for fuck all reason. I get one life. I enjoy being a free agent. I can talk and flirt with who I like and I decide how far it goes. I'm constantly in control. It's brainwashing to think you have to settle for shit.
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Mia Goth is pretty when they actually draw some eyebrows on her
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All men should be forced to do hard labor. men's bodies weren't designed to lazy around discussing philosophy or religion, they were designed for hunting and strenuous labor, any man who doesn't have a build like picrel has failed as a male and should kill himself
No. 1181968
>>1181961As a brown woman, this is the worst thing you can do. Brown men usually have brown gfs who don't sleep with them so they keep foreign women on the side. Unless you're slavic or something, you'll be the sidegirl until he marries a woman his parents pick for him. Don't do this.
If you really want to be taken seriously by a brown man, pretend to be a virgin and never ever fuck him. Trust me, it'll work
No. 1181987
>>1181975ayrt and I agree that's the reason for some, but not all.
>>1181983>>1181984I'm talking specifically all fours doggy. I like being fucked from behind where our bodies are touching, be it stand up/propped against a wall etc
No. 1182019
>>1181987Yes, but I'm talking about all fours doggy too, as this anon said
>>1182016 the guy can lean forward too. I feels pretty intimate but also intense. But yeah, ymmv
Also as a sidenote, I think went looking for an illustration of it and found this goofy shit, some of these positions do not even look possible for more than one split second
https://sexpositions.club/tag/doggy-style No. 1182198
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>>1182145my favourite ice cream is raspberry ripple!
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Losers are 99% the fault of shit parents and should not be held accountable for their life. All the "your life is your own you can change and become better" is preachy bullshit by people who were never significantly traumatized or neglected in the first place. "Just be confident" tier elitism. Welfare or sewerslide centres for all losers.
No. 1182738
>>1182732Agreed. “I’ve overcome my trauma and people who haven’t just want to be
victims and aren’t as strong as me” mentality is ghastly. Most my friends who grew up in similar situations as I did and were abused overdosed or committed suicide. The ones who didn’t are still in poverty and addicts. I have to literally pretend those things never happened in order to even function at the baseline of humanity. It isn’t a pissing contest and I don’t want to be a
victim but I’m tired of how sanctimonious people are with their “muh trauma” and it’s just basic young adulthood melodrama Olympics.
No. 1182812
>>1182738>“I’ve overcome my trauma and people who haven’t just want to be victims and aren’t as strong as me” mentality is ghastly. And notice how these people usually have something still going for them. Atleast one supportive person in their life, beauty/health, not dissociative/fawn type trauma, money. It's exactly the same as rich people who were given everything on a silver platter saying how plebs are naturally just weak/dumb and deserve to be slaves for it even though they didn't get the same upbringing/education/care.
>Most my friends who grew up in similar situations as I did and were abused overdosed or committed suicide. The ones who didn’t are still in poverty and addicts. I have to literally pretend those things never happened in order to even function at the baseline of humanity. It isn’t a pissing contest and I don’t want to be a victim but I’m tired of how sanctimonious people are with their “muh trauma” and it’s just basic young adulthood melodrama Olympics.Yeah the most the losers from my school accomplished was get a steady job and move out. Usually the male ones bc of good ol' boys clubs. The losers who were women either ended up homeless/almost homeless, in
abusive relationships, or being their family's slave punching bag.
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I don’t actually hate all males. Just most of them. And the ones I do like are usually heavily flawed. I just especially hate the kind of subhuman males that lurk and post here and I want them to be triggered and pissed off constantly. I hate trannies. I hate pedos. I hate incels etc. I’m aware that some of the males I do like could be covert incels or pedos but in life sometimes you have to take that risk and I believe I am a fairly good judge of character.
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>>1183020yess it's such a mood
No. 1183160
>>1182941You sound either polilez, straight or both. Most bi women aren't interested in TiMs, many heavily prefer traditionally masculine men and traditionally feminine women. It are the TRAs who are trying to push bi women to get with TiMs, happened to my bi bestie. Bi and gay men are a different story though. Especially closeted or conservative ones who want to be able to call themselves straight. See Blaire White's boyfriend.
>>1182964The TiF craze is caused by the systematic exclusion of masculine females from feminism (no polilez uniform doesn't count, polilez HATE butches) and the pharmacopornographic industry took advantage of this vulnerable group (vulnerable because of societal lesbophobia, butchphobia, trauma etc) in the 70s. Then the standards for women only became more hyperfeminine, causing more gnc women to feel alienated. "If TiMs are seen as women because they perform femininity, what does that make me?" Is the thought of girls and women who don't perform femininity, are autistic and generally don't fit in the heterosexual ideal. Reminder that modernday liberal feminism grew out of American polilez worship of femininity and worship of female socialization (in turn the vilification of female masculinity) and the cooptation of intersectionality from womanism. TiMs use TiFs as a shield, because they're easier to sympathize with and not as threatening. Straight people promote it because they prefer gay people to larp as straight, it makes more sense to them than gendernonconformity and homosexuality. Shaming and hating TiFs only pushes them further into the claws of TiMs and the pharmacopornographic industry. I think TiMs larp online as rfs or gc sometimes to encourage us to hate TiFs.
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>>1181949well I'm a radical feminist with a white fwb and I will make one of hyper woke libfem
woc but I will defend their right to have white partners from incel brown men
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NLOG = male attracted pickme who pretends to be different from other women and perpetuates misogyny to garner the attention of men, see Shoe0nHead. She's not even gnc.
NLOG ≠ (butch) lesbians who genuinely are different from other women, due to literally being just 1% of the population, so it's not weird to feel alienated or like you can't relate to many other women, since so much of womanhood in patriarchy is centered around heterosexuality, femininity and catering to men (which isn't women's fault). Being different and not conforming isn't a bad thing and I see it happening way too often that NLOG is used in a derogatory manner towards lesbians. Being proud and very defensive of nonconformity can be a reaction to how nonconforming women in society are obviously treated, which starts from growing up as a tomboy. When someone has been bullied and a victim of lesbophobia, they are instead blamed for it and called an NLOG, even though they did try to get along with the girly girls. It's like everyone has forgotten that there are social hierarchies and how mean children and teens can be. One side of the culture war just thinks it's a sign you should transition and the other side thinks you should change the way you look, because being gnc is seen as internalized misogyny, going against your uwu feminine nature and you're practically a tranny already!
NLOG ≠ autistic women, again a minority group which is literally different by definition, not by choice or to pander to men, they were born that way. The fuck do you want? You can't go back in time and undo the autism. Some become great at masking and are hyperfeminine, others become gnc and have strange interests. People constantly do this shit and then wonder why there are so many TiFs.
No. 1185837
>>1185810I was born to a “good” mom who had me at 19, she worked hard at Whataburger, I was mostly with my grandparents. My dad loved me, they loved me you know, I was pretty spoiled and I was loved. Then my grandpa died, my grandma had a stroke,she only speaks Spanish now. my mom and dad would fight all the damn time, and it’s easy to take care of a baby, but it’s hard to take care of a
kid, I was largely ignored and told I ask for too much, my mom would always tell me and siblings,”you know where I’d be if it weren’t for you” you literally could’ve just aborted us. Babies are fun and cute but kids are not! They will ask you for things, they wanna spend time with you, they look to you for everything, I’m sorry we are poor, I’m sorry your husband doesn’t even wanna look at you anymore, I’m sorry you hate my existence but fuck you I didn’t ask for any of this, she went from being depressed and never wanting to see us while we lived with our dad, embarrassed of us to doing meth and finally having us live with her in filth and poverty and bouncing around from place to place and using people and seeing people reject her and us and being told wherever we were that we were annoying, I hated my childhood, but mostly I hated my mom. She acted like she did us a favor by giving birth to us but really we lived in hell and I see it everywhere. Moms who hate their kids and they didn’t start out that way.
No. 1185853
>>1185810There was no option to abort in my country for most of my life and I know a few women who got pregnant between the first to third month of even knowing their partner. It's sad to look back on all the hope they had that it'd totally turn out ok. It didn't. With each new partner they then got pregnant again with a new baby as a 'thank you' for that guy being so kind as to be a step parent… and then they'd fucking split up too. How many times can you repeat that cycle before you stop it? Hate to say it but aborting baby number one and planning out an actual life would've been a nice option to have at the time. I've had friends admit as much when alcohol let their guard down. They regretted the first but ended up in a loop of having babies to keep men around. Optimistic about each man being different.
And to think this is all rooted in religion.. yeah I'm sure god would've wanted you to have 5 kids by 5 men and for you all to face one upheaval after another. Poverty, near homelessness, the risk of child sex abuse with each new partner you live with, mom never feeling security in her living situation and the kids being dragged for visitation time with a man they barely know anymore. Blended families, step siblings by the dozen, men are always being a temporary presence for the kids. You couldn't raise a bunch of dogs like that without them showing signs of their environment fucking them up.
No. 1185908
>>1185746You already have your own board on fujochan. Go back you degenerate pedo.
>>1185761this
No. 1186195
>>1184548I agree with you
nonny. I'm an autist and generally found I had very different interests/opinions/values than other girls in school and I hated it because it meant I was bullied and it was harder to make friends. Being genuinely "not like other girls" shouldn't be a compliment, because those who are not are usually weird as all hell and not many people like them.
No. 1186322
>>1184548I agree with you. That said, I don't like it when butches shit all over other women to get validation from males. It really is going full pick-me/NLOG even if it's not for sexual purposes.
Men act so fucking bizarre if you're GNC and talk about being attracted to women, and they fully expect you to play along. They want you to be "one of the guys" (ie back up their misogyny and incel shit), but they'll still belittle you lol. It makes me depressed that some fall for it
No. 1186325
>>1186245i mean it has the potential to set precedent and allow abusers to sue their
victims for libel and win despite
victims never mentioning their names or referencing times or specific events and being extremely general but ok.
No. 1186357
>>1186352neither would i, but the potential it has to affect others and the way it's already affecting women that are
victims of domestic violence is what's upsetting and angering to me.
No. 1186610
>>1186585I feel like with all the talk about love-bombing now people are more wary of this.
ime the trouble is that whether you rush in or whether you have walls up and go slow (I'm a high wall girl lol) .. either way you usually don't know a mans true self til you're already a lil too emotionally tied into things with him. They know to do that. I learnt that the hard way a few years back and I'm still fucked up by it all. I can't even complain though as I've friends who noticed a drastic overnight change in a their guys from the moment they got pregnant. Ouch.
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Anyone else here have some bands or artists that you just can’t get into, no matter how hard you’ve tried or how much people try to convince you they’re flawless? For me it’s Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin, The Talking Heads, Nirvana, & Florence & the Machine. Would post this in the music thread, but I felt it was more appropriate to be contrarian on here kek
No. 1188055
>>1186619>bob dylantoo boring and folky for me
>a bulk of male soloistswith an exception of some songs I tend to find male voices majority annoying. rock bands tend to be a step above, but the majority of male pop soloists are subpar
>most male rappersthe majority of male rappers don't do much for me either. I'm very picky choosey with male artists across the board
>metalbands that are metal adjacent are fine but a lot of metal is just tuneless screeching with no melody to me
>drakei love the weeknd and some of the artists he works with, drake is not one of them. his output is consistently mediocre and it's a wonder he ever got popular
No. 1188813
>>1188055Drake becoming too famous is what I blame for his mediocrity.
I have quite the relationship with metal. When i first got into I only really liked death metal, but I find that the production style of a lot of modern death metal to be very sterile. I feel this way with almost all genres on metal. Ironically, the only genre that seems to work with modern production is black metal, a genre known for sounding like garbage. Black metal has become my most favourite genre of metal just because I feel like it's the only genre of metal right now that doesn't rely on gimmicks, people are always pushing the sound and there's always something fresh and interesting coming out. Too bad about nasty ass fans, but if you ignore them, it's smooth sailings.
I've honestly just cut out rap completely from my life. I've been having a thing about how
toxic the lyrics are and how many people moid rappers have hurt and how much harm the cause in society. Sure I listen to black metal, but at least most of them are too pussy to ever act on their moid impulses and nobody ever forgets about it if they were to do something like murder or beat someone up. Rappers literally get away with everything. I only really listen to female rappers if I get the itch to listen to rap because at least it's just mindless fun even if they have their problems too.
No. 1189017
>>1189009It's because there are far too many privileged women trying to lead the entire conversation on some false authority. They start off with "I'm a sex worker" and knowingly take advantage of the fact that the term "sex work" ranges from their cushy positions to exploited/trafficked women with no options
>it doesn't mean that prostitution should then be given the same forethought and consideration that a phone sex operator does.That's exactly the point. They know "I'm a phone sex operator and here are my opinions" will get them less attention than "I'm a sex worker and here are my opinions"
No. 1189018
>>1189017But phone/cam is a form of sex work, what else would you call it if not that? I understand your original point
nonnie and I agree to the extent that it's no where near the level that in person sex work is, but there's really no other way to categorise it?
No. 1189030
>>1189028Are you libfem? Most women in sex
work are forced into it and regret it later on. If you support it so hard, go streetwalk one night and tell us if you still support it afterwards.
No. 1189042
>>1189037>doing sex work is same as working for minwageYou're a whore, right? I'm not american or western either but you have to be delusional if you think working as a fast food employee or a cleaner is as humiliating and dangerous as working as either a prostitute or a cam whore. Prostitutes get raped and killed often, most camgirls will have thousands of their videos leaked and won't be able to get jobs or have normal functional relationships.
I hope women like you end up having to resort to sex work because you'll only realize then how terrible it all is.
No. 1189044
>>1189042kek, when did I say min wage? I literally just told you what my job was above. I'm saying there's a lot of awful jobs out there that people don't choose but have to do so to make rent and pay bills. Also
>humiliating and dangerous as working as either a prostitute or a cam whoreSo being a cam whore is dangerous you say? Wouldn't that put it in line with other sex work? Your statements aren't really holding up
nonnie.
No. 1189059
>>1189047Yeah, but the only people who try put themselves on the same level as FSSW are…..cam whores and pso's. The average person isn't going to look at the two and equate them.
>>1189050>>1189052>>1189055You know people get ptsd from working in abattoirs right? I was only going off anons point, but even things like the military which people CHOOSE to be in, leave them with life-long mental health issues.
I'll just say I'm not sitting here and saying sex work is empowering, but we can't exactly obliterate it off the face of the earth when it's one of the longest standing "professions". It's a nuanced topic and it's annoying seeing anons on here have such an absolutist view. You're not helping sex workers lead better lives by sperging about how all of them are whores on the internet.
No. 1189063
>>1189062Refer to literally
>>1189042 where this anon thought I was a prostitute and called me a whore, lol.
No. 1189070
>>1189059I'd rather work in an abattoir and get PTSD than get raped, what about you? You think it's the same?
>we can't exactly obliterate it off the face of the earth when it's one of the longest standing "professions"Yeah, same goes for everything else deranged moids love: Bestiality, necrophilia, child rape. You going to roll out the red carpet for animal brothels, child prostitution and specially donated corpses to feed the demand? Don't be outraged, really think this through. If it's a no, explain why the same logic doesn't apply to rape on 18+ women (and let's be real, 16+ being forced to lie about their age).
>You're not helping sex workers lead better lives by sperging about how all of them are whores on the internet.Who's doing this? I certainly haven't, but I'm not going to entertain some privileged woman who likens herself to actual prostitutes crying about how "the stigma" is the biggest problem because her own biggest issue is that parents and friends are disappointed or disgusted that she fucks herself in the ass for strangers instead of just finishing uni and getting an actual job. Read an actual study, the biggest goal for most actual "sex workers" (aka prostitutes) is to get the fuck of out of "sex work"
No. 1189076
>>1189069I hope you end up as a prostitute since you love to defend the profession so much.
>>1189070>>1189071That anon is so stupid. Imagine supporting a profession that centers itself around men using unwilling women to pleasure themselves. Most sex workers barely make minimum wage and they'll always have either digital footprints or real PTSD.
I wonder if she's one of those onlywhores who think she's empowered because some pervert gave her 5 bucks in return of images that will tarnish her ability to get any real jobs in the future.
No. 1189079
>>1189070I would rather get raped but only because I couldn't have killing animals for a living on my conscience, so you're asking the wrong person here
>Yeah, same goes for everything else deranged moids lovethis is a dumb argument, I'll be honest with you. People made the same arguments for gays. I'd rather advocate for safer laws and regulations about protecting sex worker's rights than just outright banning it and forcing women to pimps. It's always going to exist regardless if you want to or not, and there's evidence in countries like Australia that illegal trafficking has gone down significantly in states that have legalised and regulated the industry.
>>1189073Slaves weren't paid, dumbass, that's why they were slaves. Same as women forced into prostitution through pimps, that's just straight exploitation and not work at all. Maybe we do need different terms, since you nonnies can't seem to agree on what qualifies as sex work or not, kek.
>>1189076Onlyshams is a straight up MLM, I often warn women who come into my job away from it. I said a few times here that I don't support sex work in that I think it's empowering or liberating, I just don't deny it's a job.
("i'd rather get raped" get help) No. 1189081
>>1189079>I would rather get rapedHoly shit you're so weird for talking to about rape as if it's a tiny little thing that just happens. It's so clear you've never been raped or even sexually harassed that you're supporting women actively getting raped for money as that's what prostitution is.
If most women are in the industry because they have no other choice, I won't excuse their pain simply because the top %1 made a career out of it.
What do you even work as? Camwhore?
No. 1189085
>>1189081I have been raped anon, actually. Quite a few times, which is why I'm desensitised to it.
I said I work for a crisis centre with sex workers.
No. 1189090
>>1189079>spoiler textThere's a lot I can say to this, but I'll leave it on your own mind and conscience
>Being gay is the same thing as men trafficking women for moneyThe fuck is this logic? Pimpsexual? Is it some men's sexual orientation to use women's bodies in exchange for money? Kek. Hope you won't be mad if I tell you those same people I mentioned also equate themselves to homosexuals. In trying to escape this, you're literally creating even more points of comparison without even realizing it
>But Australiahttps://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/decriminalising-sex-work-fails-it-s-time-for-an-alternative-approach-20210630-p585hc.htmlThe only model proven to work is the Nordic Model, if you don't support that then you've clearly had too much kool-aid
>Slaves weren't paid, dumbass, that's why they were slaves. Same as women forced into prostitution through pimps, that's just straight exploitation and not work at all.Guess what? The 90% of women you're insisting are "just doing an awful job" are being exploited. That's what you are defending. You're a full fledged retard for choosing this hill. It's not "just a job", and no amount of copes will make it that way.
No. 1189099
>>1189095It's troll. I actually did get assaulted a few times and trust me it's always worse the second time because you keep blaming yourself for not realizing it's the same thing and they trauma just builds up. That's why most sex workers actually get more depressed as time goes on instead of being super happy they go hurt again.
I think that anon is either a male or a privileged woman larping because she has no idea how sexual abuse actually scars people.
No. 1189108
>>1189106This. How much do you wanna bet the
rape experience she's talking about is her sleeping with guys whilst drunk which she thinks gives her the right to consider women actually getting raped being a totally real job? I bet she absolutely didn't go through anything as bad as those women did, if she had she wouldn't think it was an easy experience.
No. 1189121
>>1189111She's not been
raped if she thinks letting men rape women for pocket change is a career. She one of those retards who think they got raped because they fucked a man and regretted it later but don't consider
victims of actual violent rape, aka the prostitutes she wrote about in such a disgusting fashion,
valid victims.
She thinks it's normal for prostitutes to get raped and mentions the prostitutes' daily violent sexual abuse while saying the profession shouldn't die out. She wants women to get raped and so I believe she deserves the same treatment herself.
No. 1189138
>>1189131It's larping. Do you think an actual rape
victim would think prostitution shouldn't go extinct even if it means most sex workers get sexually abused everyday? Her larp is falling apart and that's why
she left.
>>1189132She's not defending their rights. She literally thinks sexual abuse isn't important and that working in fast-food is worse and women should rather be forced into sex work. She also detailed how most women in that field get raped every day but continued defending the field and said sex work should never die out as if men's pleasure matters more than women getting assaulted.
No. 1189140
>>1189137I still believe she didn't get raped because a rape
victim wouldn't let men use and abuse other women or consider women getting raped a
valid work. She said prostitutes got raped everyday but still continued to defend it as a
valid career and better than any minwage job
No. 1189141
>>1189132To her, being "treated with dignity" means having what they go through equated to working at McDonald's, and "sex worker's rights" are basically men's rights to use/abuse them and have them pretend it's okay. Where did this "called a bunch of whores" even come from? Because someone insulted her personally by thinking she was a camgirl?
The posts above are harsh, but I just can't defend this shit. I really hope it's just some scrote or LARPing privileged woman saying shit just to say it, because if not, it's one of the most backward points of view I've ever seen. If she's telling the truth, she shouldn't have entered this discussion and she shouldn't be working at a crisis centre because I'm sure she's said this sort of fucked up shit to girls and women trying to exit sex work. She needs to tackle her own issues
No. 1189151
>>1189132>>1189141>>1189138Here is what she said:
>work is just an exchange of labor for money
>I work with a gov agency that supports sex workers in need and acts as a crisis centre. It's not accurate to say most women are forced into it in the country I live in
> I'd rather advocate for safer laws and regulations about protecting sex worker's rights than just outright banning it and forcing women to pimps.
>I'll just say I'm not sitting here and saying sex work is empowering, but we can't exactly obliterate it off the face of the earth when it's one of the longest standing "professions". It's a nuanced topic and it's annoying seeing anons on here have such an absolutist view. You're not helping sex workers lead better lives by sperging about how all of them are whores on the internet.You all are putting words in her mouth and accusing her of things she didn’t say. As a former escort, I prefer this kind of nuanced view than a bunch of people screeching at me that I got raped for money. It’s not helpful to women in sex work to demonize it (even if it IS a horrible industry) because that only pushes them further into it once they see how hostile the outside world is to them. Have some empathy, that’s all she’s saying.
No. 1189156
>>1189154See what this anon said
>>1189141 that sexwork defender is definitely a troll or a rich woman who has no idea how it's like in reality. She said she worked in a crisis center but when told most women get in sec work once they're minors or out of choice, she acted surprised as if that's something someone working with with them could be clueless about. Ignore it.
No. 1189158
>>1189151Samefagging but she did equate it to fast food, multiple times:
>Most people don't wake up and decide to work in garbage disposal, abattoirs or fast food service either. They work all sorts of revolting jobs to pay rent, and sex work is just one of them.
>kek, when did I say min wage? I literally just told you what my job was above. I'm saying there's a lot of awful jobs out there that people don't choose but have to do so to make rent and pay bills. Downplaying trauma from rape/SA:
>You know people get ptsd from working in abattoirs right?
>it's one of the longest standing "professions".
>It's always going to exist regardless if you want to or notLiterally scrote and idiotic libfem arguments. Her one example of laws that help sex workers was already shown to not do that, see link in
>>1189090 No. 1189161
>>1189158Nta but she's a troll, it's obvious. It could also be a male trying to downplay sexwork and literal sexual abuse. Do you really think a woman who sees abused women all day think there's no difference in fast-food workers and sex workers?
It's also good to bite that this could just be a whore who's coping.
No. 1189164
>>1189158Comparing isn’t the same thing as equating. Nowhere did she say, “sex work and fast food are exactly the same” and you all need to stop saying that because it’s intellectually dishonest. The fact is, a lot of jobs are mentally
abusive. That doesn’t mean they are exactly the same as sex work, but many women feel like they will be abused in some form regardless of what form of income they choose, so they may as well pick one that gives them more money. It’s not a healthy way to think, and it’s usually indicative of an
abusive background, but it is how they look at it.
> Downplaying trauma from rape/SA:It isn’t downplaying trauma to point out that it IS one of the oldest professions and yes, it probably will always exist unfortunately. People do get PTSD from other jobs. It means that other jobs are
abusive in different ways. It doesn’t mean that the trauma is okay or unimportant.
>>1189161>It's also good to bite that this could just be a whore who's coping.You clearly don’t actually care about women if your first instinct is to call any woman that disagrees with you a whore.
No. 1189183
>>1189164>Nowhere did she say, “sex work and fast food are exactly the same” And no one said she said that verbatim, but that she equated them. As in, valued them the same way, the fact that people are forced into them (remember, "don't choose but have to do" - if you think that's in the same ballpark as taking out the garbage, you're not a sex worker lol) and tried to claim the PTSD from abattoirs is on the same level (or worse, in her POV) than rape.
If you don't see how all this is insane, you need to stop posting. Everything you've/she's argued is wrong. As a "former escort", why did you ignore the question in
>>1189154 to just repeat everything the other anon said, by the way? You're so full of shit
No. 1189192
>>1189184It's because this is the same ill-intentioned illiterate troll and she keeps repeating the same misinformation. First she larps as a crisis center worker who happens to be clueless about what prostitutes go through and how most are pimped or underage when they start. Then larps as a prostitute who acts like mean women calling her whore are worse than men who pimp or rape prostitutes.
This is such a weird hill to die on and it's also weird that she keeps repeating the same talking points with both of her identities, that sex work is the oldest profession and other jobs give PTSD but pay less so sex work is a better choice.
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Gonna bring back this question for the industry defender: If at least some women need to give access to their bodies for men's pleasure the same way society needs food or to dispose of waste, why stop at just women, especially since we know minors are already pushed into it regularly? Hell, why even living humans? These are all sexual urges, and if we want to make an appeal to history or go on about "oldest profession", we can go back hundreds of years to find men raping children, animals and dead bodies. Another anon said ancient Egyptians had to try and safeguard the corpses of their female nobles to make sure they weren't raped by their local scrotes.
If you think that's okay, just say it with your chest, it's not even a slippery slope because we're already in hell. What do you think would make a case like this better? If the orangutan was trained/groomed to like it? If we're operating from "Reee don't deny the poor moids their pleasure, you can't stop them from wanting what they want, it'll happen whether you like it or not" logic, there's no reason to go against this
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I am pretty sure there's a couple of cows that browse lolcow regularly and get upset when they're posted.
>don't post her, she's not milky!!
>she is probably self-posting!
They're mostly the 4chan pick-mes who've been lurking long enough to know how to not be an obvious whiteknight.
No. 1189348
>>1189213Yeah the oldest profession shit is just a joke or a saying, even most dumb scrotes know it's just a joke.
How can you use that as an actual argument is beyond me.
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This movie (and movies similar to it) are boring as fuck, only memorable scene is the gross ass scene of the protagonist fucking a peach.
Manpain movies are only good if they’re comedic honestly.
No. 1189573
>>1189566The writer is a moid, but not a gay moid.
I don't think it matters either way because only a scrote would think adding in a scene where a dude fucks a peach is a good idea.
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>>1189566The book was written by a pedophile and the older actor has a cannibalism fetish apparently.
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well the unhinged opinions thread was fun while it lasted
No. 1191027
>>1191014I'm not talking about the marginal unhinged troons but the general majority of woke leaning LGB people and allies. The ones who would probably peak in secret if exposed to enough tranny nonsense.
>>1191008>>1191017Yes, god. Agree 100%.
>It's not just the identity part, because they'll pick apart how they look and constantly focus on how they're ruining/hiding their oh so feminine womanly fertile bodyThis part especially. It's never about the identity, it's always about the looks. The "before" of the transition photos always looks better because it's feminine with long hair, makeup and effeminate clothes, the "after" isn't worse because she was traumatized and pressured to conform the identity politics and deny material truth but because she's not pretty anymore. So many of them are just the other side of the NLOG coin, I've seen the "I was a tomboy as a kid too, but then I grew out of it like a normal person and learned to cherish my female femaleness and female feminine femme breasts and wearing female dresses like a femme female!" story weaponized to brag about being better than these cringe FTMs enough times to make this observation.
No. 1191032
>>1190985> For example it's not enough to think transgenderism is bullshit, you have to wish death upon even the "normal" troons that aren't pedo AGPs and can't have any sympathy for the miserable FTMs trying to escape societal misogyny and homophobia Yeah I'm so tired of seeing supposedly
terf number 20 feeling so threatened over a man wearing a dress and makeup, they hate GNC people in general and hide behind
terf beliefs to justify their hatred it's embarrassing. It's all "clothes are just clothes you stupid gendies" but a man wearing a dress is all of a sudden "appropriating womanhood" and a judging a woman by how she looks. I remember a while ago there was someone proudly stating that she was bullied out of her tomboy phase and became a normal feminine woman as if it's some kind of win.
They need to stop doomscrolling. I hate the how the current movement has convinced many people that people feel a gender it's such a bs concept that's the issue not how you dress or present yourself.
No. 1191033
>>1191027Yeah they don't even consider it successful detransitioning, unless they become hyperfeminine women like Helena. Just being a butch is already tranny-adjacent to them anyway, including to polilez. Even the constant insistence that dyshopria isn't real, if you believe BDD is a thing, then you understand that dysphoria is real. Since it's supposed to be body dysphoric disorder in the first place, dysmorphia only implies that there's legit something wrong with your body, instead of just your feelings about your body being disordered (i.e. dysphoria). Like do they or do not want them to get therapy for this subset of BDD? They think exactly like people at conversion therapy, where being gnc is seen as the cause of the BDD and being a lesbian, instead of realizing that the BDD is caused by society not accepting masculine females and trying to traumatize us left and right. So they think using shame, ostracization and isolation is a way to get gnc women to "act right". It also reminds me of how they think the most acceptable way to be gnc is Annie Lennox (a heterosexual woman), you never hear them mention KD Lang or anyone like that, even though she's very well known too with boomers.
>>1191032>clothes are just clothes you stupid gendiesYeah but if their tomboy kid doesn't grow out of it and wants a short hair cut, then it's not "hair is just hair" and "clothes are just clothes", they automatically view it as setting one foot in the tranny pipeline and force their kid to wear a dress. Even though that crap of "you're a girl, girls aren't allowed to look like that" literally leads to the brainworms which causes women to transition.
No. 1191034
>>1191032Alright I feel uncomfortable with men in dresses bc I know they jack off in the changing rooms and feel euphoric swinging their dick and balls around in a skirt.
Stop being so naive
No. 1191040
>>1191034I partially agree. Women being gnc is different than men. Men who wear dresses are usually perverts and although some men can be gnc naturally like wearing eyeliner and earrings on both ears, lots of feminine necklaces etc, they're almost always exclusively gay or bi. I've never known a gnc straight man who wasn't predatory and only dressed the way to come off as innocent.
Women on the other hand aren't perverts. I've known straight and bi gnc women and none of them acted weird.
No. 1191496
>>1191492>Men hate small dogs for the same reason they hate cats: they despise anything that brings women joythat and it's usually very low t men who feel the need to compensate by making it known how much they hate small dogs and other small animals, desserts, pink, fruit, or anything that can be somewhat deemed as feminine. a lot of the excuses they use are things like "but a small lap dog is useless! a big dog is useful" but 90% of moids who own big dogs don't even do shit with them anyway? kek I don't see these moids owning a ranch, living in the mountains, or anything like that, they all live with their parents or in shitty apartments and have the nerve to mock women for owning an animal that's appropriate for their lifestyle
Ironically it's usually older, rich men who actually do own lots of land who like small dogs, I don't see why brad who lives with his parents in the suburbs needs to hate on small dogs "because he can't use them" when he will never ever need a dog for work
No. 1191498
>>1191492Same fag this is why men mock, sexualise, belittle and shame:
Women’s laughs, women’s humour, women’s friendships, women’s relationships with their mothers and sisters, with their pets, their taste in clothes, music, books and movies, women going travelling, women drinking alcohol, women drinking coffee, women going to gigs and concerts (how can you expect to go and NOT be grinded against and groped by some sweaty disgusting perv? Just stay home!) it’s why hen dos are sneered at but not stag dos. It’s why the word spinster exists: some piece of shit old timer scrote took offence to old, unmarried and widowed women trying to make a pittance for bread by spinning wool for people. Women have two choices: bow down to the smegma crusted cock or die/be ostracised/ be imprisoned. Men hyper focus on everything they do. Even (and especially) when they profess to hating us and wanting to go their own way. Every degrading and insulting thing men do to women is an effort to control us all because they are fucking worthless without us just like the anglerfish. their one goal in life is to breed and things like #metoo, the age of consent and the fucking law is cucking them so they mock that too. They take away roe v Wade in burgerland, they bring back the taliban, they let women all over the world be beaten to death and murdered and trafficked and raped yet they expect us to care that they’re being forced to do the one thing they are superior at: dying and fighting in war. We don’t care! I wish for once they would care about anything other than their disgusting useless cocks that do nothing but spew out piss and cum, that do nothing but seek out a superior being that can actually conceive, form and nourish a child within themselves.
It’s also why all religions that don’t pander to cock where stamped out. It makes no fucking sense for a man to be god, or the prophet or anything of value. Everything they do is to control women and they are fucking nothing without us. If it wasn’t for misogyny we would have already bred them out of existence and created husbandobots and they fucking know it.
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What the whole tranny acceptance wave of the 2000s has shown me is that finding men in women's clothing ugly isn't just a matter of society not accepting them, or beauty standards being unfair. Dudes are just ugly. That's it. They can wear whatever they want, you can put them on magazine covers and in TV shows, but they just don't look good, and no one should be forced to call it "stunning" or "brave" because it's a lie. It's so dire that the only men who actually look good in women's clothing have to try their hardest to be indistinguishable from women by the power of makeup and Photoshop.
The whole GNC debate should always have been centered around GNC women because GNC men look like clowns (and the 1% that don't never seem to take much interest in said debate)
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This form of protest sucks
And does nothing to hold moids accountable for their actions.
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>>1191528The thing is, if men walked around wearing decorative clothing meant to flatter their bodies, 90% would still look bad unless they were attractive in the first place
I can't think of any traditional examples of form-fitting men's clothing, but here's one example of a conventionally attractive man showing off his body with a harness, and it working
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>>1191537Samefagging, here's a more "average" man wearing something similar. No commentary needed
No. 1191547
>>1191537>90% would still look bad unless they were attractive in the first placeAgain, this is also because of the societal perception that women should be the decorative sex and not men, so men just do not bother.
>>1191543yep.
No. 1191595
>Homos, lesbos and trannies that grow up in nuclear, upper class normal homes
>Almost always grow up to be successful due to the nurturing environment and financial support
>Without fail they still constantly seethe like fuck about how oppressive and hard their childhood was.
Every other demographic can and often do go through severe abuse and just keep it to themselves. Like black african americans from the ghetto, they often grow up in single mother households and got treated like shit, with a disproportionate amount of PTSD. And even if they grow up to be barely functional criminals, they still feel intense love for their mothers and downplay the abuse and shittiest they went through growing up. Try to find someone from that environment, who has every reason to whine about their childhood and parents, do so. I see so many gays and troons that straight up have lives that 90% of the world envy, and they just can't count their blessings. It needs to be called out more.
I see it all the time at work and stuff, some tranny working in STEM with no dependents living a life of luxury, making six figures. But yet still crying like a baby about some minor shit her dad said ten years ago. Like just move on.
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>>1191595You just reminded me of a gay guy I knew from uni, he's the last child of a rich, white, catholic family in France who was spoiled by his loving parents and siblings, his biggest problem in life was that his rich manager dad would often have to move his family to different big cities for his job but that's it. He was also never treated like shit by his classmates and teachers or his coworkers for being gay. He'd post and rt a shit ton of posts about how oppressed gay kids and teenagers are based on his own nonexistent personal experience and he'd often joke about how easy it is to be a straight woman. Kek, if only he knew. He often invites his bf at family reunions and they obviously do thing out of wedlock, meanwhile my crazy racist, sexist, religious brown parents would call me all sorts of names like "whore" or "slut" if I ever dared kind of getting along with male classmates, and they'd disown me and ruin my reputation at best if I ever do anything out of wedlock. I've been severely beaten up in primary school for still playing with male classmates during recess I befriended in kindergarten once. Yes, I'm 28 and could put my life in danger if I ever french kissed a man out of wedlock, yet I have to listen to white men telling me how hard it is being gay as a teenager because they couldn't date anyone since they didn't know any other gay guys until uni. My mother comes from a country where you need a virginity certificate given to you by a gynecologist after an invasive exam if you want to get officially married for the first time. Boohoo cry me a river.
Sorry for the incoherent, long vent. No. 1191672
>>1191663I hate these types of people. They always want to play the
victim role and make everything about themselves while being asskissed by their parents.
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>>1191595>be defected xy chromosomelet>go on the one website who doesn't give a shit about your opinion>write tldr text thinking you will get your ass pats here because for some reason your fellow pol moids aren't enough >make sure to mix some racebait concern trolling in but forget to call your fellow troon moids what they areThe Y chromosome is a disease.
No. 1191736
>>1191663Yes I hate when they act like being gay or straight is the only criteria that could possibly influence how well you're treated by society, as if there weren't any other factors at all. And to add to my post here
>>1191629 I said my mother comes from a country that requires a virginity certificate to get married if that's your first marriage. I don't live there but my mother decided to apply her countries mentality and culture to my sisters and my lives. I think there's a similar law in my father's country as well but I would have to check that. On top of it, my aunt adopted a baby girl long ago in my father and her "homeland" and iirc my adopted cousin, who's an adult now, was put at the orphanage as soon as she was born because her bio mother got pregnant out of wedlock and being a single mother out of wedlock or a bastard child in my father's country can very easily ruin your life beyond repair. But please, tell me how being a straight woman is sooo easy because you don't get teased at school for it. I could go on just with examples taken from my personal life.
No. 1191750
>>1191736i know its considered an sjw buzzword but im hoping its a few years far removed from tumblr enough for the word "intersectionality" to not be so
triggering for people because that's the best word to describe what you're talking about from my experience.
its the same reason why rich white nonbinary autists on twitter despite how many oppression olympics they try to play will never be "as oppressed" as the poor pakistani girl forced into child marriage an or the boy with down syndrome confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. sexuality and gender are not the only identities that attract additional attention, discrimination, and scrutiny in the world. there are many different intersecting parts that make up what a human being is that at any given moment could make someones life significantly better or worse, ESPECIALLY having to do with how someone was raised, how good their childhood was, whether or not they grew up with trauma/abuse/etc. there is a fucking difference
No. 1191763
>>1191595Reminds me of a rich asian girl I know (online) who grew up in an asian country yet she never fails to reees about racism against asians on social media, posing as a
victim poc. Her family has a huge house with several maids and she isn't discriminated against in her country, it's literally full of asians and white/black people are treated as foreigners and not trusted there. I just don't get it. Why whine about evil whiteys all the time when you don't even meet them and they never inconvenienced you in any way.
No. 1191843
>>1191763Anyone who has a maid is automatically opting out their
victim card. I had the same issue with a rich black girl who went to a private school near my public hs. it's so gross when privileged people want to be
victims No. 1192140
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There are natural laws that remain unknown to the general population. The flesh can be manipulated by the spirit. Water has memory.
No. 1192151
>>1192147Yes!
It’s a medium just like any other and you have to make an effort to constantly find yourself stuck in degen anime/manga. The only time when an anime i watched had degen topics was when a guy recommended it to me. There’s also this divergence between the fans and the actual story, also happens with Japanese video games, that sexualise everything.
Honestly the only time an anime i watched was degen was one recommended by a guy.
No. 1192633
>>1192468This so fucking much. I HATE it when people from some of the most highly developed European countries or from the US complain about how
>it’s not even that good here, idg why people are coming here!!! I’d rather go live somewhere else and explore the world!!!NO you wouldn’t you fuck, and even if you did go somewhere else and had a good experience there, it’s because
1) developing countries’ currency is weak af so everything is cheap for you (even though the average salary is probably like $1000/year)
2) locals always kiss Americans/Europeans’ asses and go out of their way to make you feel “comfortable” even if they wouldn’t do the same for other locals
Even in more developed countries like Japan or Korea, you have it easy. Literally the only requirement for Americans to teach there are
> to have a bachelor’s degree (of any kind, from any university)>to have a clear criminal recordTHATS IT, they don’t even need EXPERIENCE for that. And they’ll be able to qualify for permanent residency after a few years on a working visa. Meanwhile some of my friends from developing countries who know Japanese/Korean fluently and have degrees from there are still struggling to even get their first job and some legit go back because no one wants to sponsor them for a working visa. Not even gonna go into detail about how hard it is to become a US citizen, half the ppl in my country get rejected even for a tourist/student visa, there’s a reason why there are so many illegal immigrants in America.
No. 1192972
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Petunias are ugly to me. Hate how they're the most popular annual flower.
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Some newfags like picrel are endearing. I think they should still integrate, but it's kind of cute. It gives me old school forum vibes.
No. 1193398
>>1193384I think getting random gifts is impolite and rude, men do it very often because they think all women like the same stuff.
Though giving money is also awkward, especially if it's your bf or gf. Gifts that are centered around your interests or them taking you out shopping to buy you something you like is better imo.
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Steampunk is cute, actually
No. 1193472
>>1193464>Let themKek
Okay anon enjoy your free steak or whatever, I will enjoy my life without moids and paying for my own shit
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>>1194193Agreed, I will never stop loving the color pink and other stereotypically feminine shit.
except for small dogs. Poms are cute, but big dogs and cats are cuter imo No. 1194293
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Another real reason on why vaginas “stink” is because most women do not wear breathable underwear. Bacteria is very easy to live in moist, dark places. I thought this would be obvious with the way you get foot fungus by wearing close-toed shoes all the time. The very idea of our vaginas not smelling like an organ and that it’s supposed to smell like liquorice and gumdrops is just another example on how men and pick-mes should be executed on sight before they ever dare speak about how a woman’s body functions. Can’t you also get a uterine infection just by have intercourse with a man? Enough with the pregnancy is risky because not only is carrying a child risky but so is sex for women.
No. 1194637
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I hate how narcissistic humans can be
>Man, the bravest animal and most prone to suffer
A good chunk of creatures on earth are much braver and suffer far more than we do on an existential level because of how ruthless their environments are. Ever since we took on the ability to separate from nature, being a human has been one of the cushiest existences possible, so much that they literally have to make up shit to be upset about (muh gender identity, pyramid schemes, copyright law, etc). Nietszche was a cuck and a massive tryhard, anyway. It's no wonder we have a tranny problem, penis-havers have always been addicted to self-victimizing
No. 1194641
>>1194637lmfao, I just posted a video in the youtube hate thread about some rich girl using this exact quote to talk about her tumblr phase
I can't take anyone who takes such academics like him or Freud seriously
No. 1194656
>>1194652I read it when I was 16 so I found it spooky, kek
I think media that scared me the most was lovecraft's color out of space when I was a teen and conversion therapy scenes depicted in movies
No. 1194668
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>>1194652Wait I have a relevant pic for this (not implying your post is bait)
No. 1194691
>>1192633I had friends from Denmark visit my country (central slav) and they'd keep telling me 'omggg everything is so cheap here that's so nice!! Must be great living here' like what the fuck, do you not realise it's not cheap for
me? I work my ass off to be able to buy shit and you telling me how going to 5 star restaurant was like getting a fastfood in your country or whatever is shitty. Even when I told them that it's not cheap for locals, instead of shutting up about it they kept showing me how much clothes and shit they bought and how cheap it was for them. Yeah, how nice for you?
Honestly it made my blood boil and I didn't even contact them after they came back and don't really want to anymore. Tactless as shit. My country isn't even that poor Europe-wise, all of them were students getting money from their parents, so thanks for showing me you're spoilt rich kids.
No. 1194821
>>1194353This is true
t. non-American
No. 1194955
>>1194427That's true. I can see Miami being relevant, but Orlando really only is for Disney World and Universal. Being from the South, guess I was just thinking of the majority of Florida which is just swamp land filled with hicks and not that different from it's neighboring states
>>1194796I hear people talk about those states but only other Americans. What country are you from? All the international students I've spoken to have heard of various states but don't really care about them (I mean why would they lol). They're really only interested in the places you see featured in movies and TV which are mostly major cities like LA, NYC, San Francisco, Vegas, etc. Even then it's really only the cities that are relevant, not the whole state.
Out of curiosity to non-American anons, how familiar are people in your country with American states in general and vaguely where they're located on a map? I wouldnt expect you to be, but I know American media spreads pretty far and I'm curious as to how much that info bleeds over. I can name a handful of states/provinces in other countries like Ontario in Canada, NSW in Australia, Xinjiang in China, etc. My knowledge of them is extremely limited and I couldn't place many of them on a map, but idk if that's just because of the shit American education system or if most ppl around the world don't know/care about the specific regions of other countries
No. 1195355
>>1195339There's another chick like her too and they're the same
>obviously at least upper middle class>cushy life but imply they were bullied>trans issues highlighted above women's issues>very preachy>criticize how asian people in asia fetishize their culture while being born and raised in the westI watched Mina's video on
>confidence s a cult!!and all those video essayist youtubers are the same. Pull a few examples from pop culture or recent news, use some quotes to appear smart and be contrarian without having a real conclusion.
No. 1195811
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you know someone is overrated for their looks when under a gender swapping app they look like a girl that most nonnas here would describe as mid
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>>1195826Mid means “subpar” or average, and camp or campy can mean something (like fashion) that’s exaggerated, flamboyant and tacky/in bad taste, but in an ironic, tongue-in-cheek way. You know when a movie is “so bad it’s good” or an outfit is so ugly that it’s hilarious and you kind of love it? The intentional performance of that is camp, and pokes fun at seriousness. Think along the lines of drag shows, John Waters movies, Rocky Horror Picture Show.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_(style) No. 1195862
>>1190884I lowkey think it's just jealousy. I'm an only child and my childhood was great. I had lots of friends and cousins to play with, never had to babysit any siblings, won't have to get married in order to have a roof over my head because the moid brother inherits the house by default in my country. They can seethe.
Please tell me more about how your incel NEET child is much better off having siblings compared to me, I'm all ears.
No. 1195982
>>1195862If anything, my tinfoil is that only children are better at socializing because they don't have a default friend to play with and actually have to get along with other kids.
Plus, for every nice sibling there's always a shitty one and it's better to have none at all than to be stuck with a deadbeat brother/sister who has 10 children they can't afford, always asks for money and never takes care of the parents when they're older, or spreads rumors about you if you won't do as they say.
No. 1196105
>>1195982>Plus, for every nice sibling there's always a shitty oneThis, I had an
abusive older sister that bullied the shit out of me when we were kids and it deeply impaired my social skills as a teen/young adult. I would have been better off being an only child. I don’t get the snark towards only children.
No. 1196174
>>1190884yeah. my brothers and I aren't close it and didn't teach me anything about social skills because they're 4+ yrs older so everything just always went their way, and I had to deal with what was leftover. I guess it taught me to be adaptable and flexible.
and I have older (10+ yrs) half siblings who pay me dust because our parent started a second family while they were just kids, ofc they have lingering resentment.
but people hear I have 6 siblings and think I had such a great, social childhood kek. then get so uncomfortable when I'm such a sperg and some only child single mom raised person is gracious and gregarious rip
No. 1196212
>>1196169I grew up in a pretty rough area where people were scummy, were bleeding the benefits system dry and would think nothing of having 6 or 7 kids that the government would be paying to house, feed and raise. Crime rates were through the roof and people were scamming the system and robbing and scheming everywhere you turned. It was overcrowded and getting worse every year. I got out of that shithole area and moved to a more rural area lately where people here are hard working decent people… average of 1 to 2 kids per couple. The wrong types of people are the ones having the most babies.
I said something about that in passing lately and my frien/workmate went kind of woke on me and thought I was an asshole for saying that… but if she saw the massive scummy families I grew up surrounded by she'd maybe be worrying about it too. They're raising their kids to be antisocial leeches and at a rate where government housing can't keep up wth demand. They've created a housing shortage that is never ending at this rate. They can't help enough homeless people because people are having 'benefits babies' at a faster rate than they can build housing to accomodate it. But if you dare to question wtf people are doing having 6 or 7 kids when they don't work and don't seem to have their shit together.. you're the bad guy lol. Having 7 kids is a human right.
No. 1196248
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I support her, i love how much she makes femcel kpop fans sethee.
its showing how hypocritical kpoppies are because the male idols they are fans of have done jut as bad or worse than garam ever would.
No. 1196279
>>1196268its so weird how kpop fans are being so ruthless towards her yet protect male idols who are in their 20's when news of them bullying or doing worse comes out.
I even saw some of them brag about harassing her family, they are taking it too far.
>>1196271>Reminds me of that idol trainnelmao thats Han Seo Hee, i remember her being talked about in the kpop critical threads, she exposed those two male idols for doing drugs lol.
No. 1196653
>>1196646no I think they should get mid rise pants or lose weight tbh.
>>1196651most people aren't curvy tbh.
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sometimes normies need a reminder for why they should not bully people
No. 1196936
>>1196248She bullied a girl to suicide, how exactly does that make her a girlboss? Anon, you literally stan a bully because she's a girl, even though the
victim was ALSO a girl, and still call others 'femcels' kek.
No. 1196938
>>1196931>he was bullieeedoh not this shit again, can we stop making excuses for men for one second.
Also ive been severely bullied but i would never do that, stop making excuses.
>>1196935i remember when people were making up lies about the columbine shoters so they can look like the
victims of boollying, and it turned out to be a lie, they were just psychopaths.
No. 1196943
>>1196936hello kpop-fag, why dont you also mention how that ''
victim'' posted revenge porn almost nude photos of her friends, now go back to posting kpop fancams on tiktok obese-chan.
One of the
victims spread nudes of another girl and the other
victim was proved to be fake (not a real person that exists).
No. 1196944
>>1196938I don’t get why is it so hard to understand that double standards exist for a reason. Women should be helped when they get bullied, they need to be heard because maybe what happened was something out of their control and that could’ve been prevented if people were more understanding.
Men need to be told to suck it up and shut the fuck up because most, if not, all of the time they’re fucking spergs and deserve getting bullied.
It’s as simple as that.
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>>1196943Kpopfags vs kpopfags kek. No wonder kpop threads get banned on LC, you people are insufferable even on unrelated threads.
No. 1196958
>>1196935no
>>1196948this is true. i had ptsd and got bullied for it mostly by guys. the girls bully more with exclusion but the boys would keep chasing me around, stealing my things, throwing my stuff around, pushing me, kicking me, threatening me, etc. when nobody cares and the only attention you get is humiliation and causing you physical pain, and your parents neglect or abuse you at home then you will also think about murder.
No. 1196959
>>1196948It’s just like that, girls will get bored and do other stuff, hell, sometimes they will defend you, but moids won’t stop and will be violent if they can do so, even if they won’t get away with it.
Which is why moids getting bullied should be, if anything, considered a good thing for the bullied girls, so they can grow up without getting unnecessary trauma from getting bullied by moids that could get busy bullying other moids, and so the other girls could understand that they’re just the same as the
victim and that they should get along because they only have each other.
No. 1196971
>>1196959even the most prolific mean bitches dont bully someone everyday. I only see moids finding the time and energy to be mean and petty everyday.
Also some moids bully because they have enablers allowing them to bully , pickmes need to stop letting their moids bully and harass other women.
No. 1197120
>>1190884siblings breed competition, especially when the children have narc parents. would've much rather been an only child who didn't grow up feeling inferior to my
younger sibling. an only child life sounds downright lovely
No. 1197135
>>1197120Nta but why? I never feel or felt any competition with my siblings, despite having two of them, in fact I am always happy to watch them succeed. (But that also could be because I spent all of my childhood taking care of them) I keep seeing
toxic dynamic between two siblings, which is usually common from the youngest one. It hurts my heart.
No. 1197136
>>1197135me and my sister ended up being virtual opposites and were pitted against one another by our
toxic mother, so maybe it's more common with two sibling families
No. 1197158
>>1196971>even the most prolific mean bitches dont bully someone everydayI’m sorry but you are completely wrong. Source: my own lived experiences.
Like we get it, men suck, but stop acting like women are incapable of doing wrong.
No. 1197371
>>1197158Some farmers have a ridiculous notion of what women are like. They really trick themselves into thinking that women can't be too malicious, violent, or even just vulgar (even online). Men are obviously much worse, and I get that their degeneracy makes you want to cut women a break, but I'm kind of sick of the enforced delusion
IMO, when it comes to adolescent/childhood bullying, most of the worst incidents are same-sex
No. 1197392
>>1196948>>1196958Being bullied by boys as a girl is hell on earth. I was bullied by both other girls and by boys from elementary school through high school but the boys were more ruthless and I fully believed that they could/would kill me if they had the chance. Boys start with being physically violent to you for as long as they can get away with it while you are both small children, and as soon as they get old enough to not be able to get away with the outright physical bullying anymore they resort to finding ways to either get away with it in a socially acceptable manner (like intentionally rough or injuring aggression in P.E. classes, smashing a ball or sport instrument hard point blank into your face and claiming it's an accident, etc.) and will carefully find ways to make violent threats verbally when nobody is around or will believe you. The girls were awful too inb4 someone implies I am saying all women are perfect baby angels or something, I just didn't feel like I was in imminent danger from them in the same way every day.
>>1197384IMO it's not different, it's womanface and also just ugly looking in general
No. 1197393
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Ice cream should be REFRESHING. The majority of ice cream sold is like 30% syrup, 50% chocolate, 10% nuts and just 10% ice cream. That is not refreshing, that is not even an ice cream, that's cold chocolate on a stick. It's most definitely not what you need on a hot day. The very few ice creams that are not like that are just tiny sugary water sticks for little children.
The ice cream market SUCKS
My great life joy, ruined
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>>1197393Oh my goodness, preach it anon. I like magnum bars since they are mostly fairly simple, but to me that's just like a general dessert. If you are going for a refreshing treat on a really hot summer day I think picrel is the best.
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>>1197393You're right, I love these ice creams, maybe they're not really ice creams, but I love these that are like a frozen fruit smoothie, my mom used to get these all the time in summer when I was in high school but now they don't sell them anymore… I want it so bad it was refreshing and delicious mmmmmmmmmmm icecream
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>>1196931>>1196912Men aren't people and I bullied boys
>>1196948>but if the boys choose to bully you then they never fucking stop and become obsessed, they will find ways to make your life hell every second while you are in class and it can ever resort to sexual violence sometimes too, im speaking from experience.Only way to get it to stop is to try to beat them to death. No joke. Grab a rock and smash smash smash. It's insane what boys can get away with, meanwhile if you do only 1% of what they do, you get shit for it. If you tell the teacher, they will just try to get YOU to apologize. It ended up becoming my strategy to start beating boys first, before they could start bullying me, when I would be at a new school.
>>1197384Make-up doesn't come naturally to anyone and it really depends. I've seen drag queens who just paint themselves blue or try to be an alien or monster. Sometimes it's done as part of an homage to a celebrity and it's meant respectfully. Ugly things are also allowed to exist. It's mainly fucked up when they try to do misogynistic caricatures.
No. 1197483
>>1197447Nonnie you sound based and I wish you were my friend both now and while I was in school.
If boys learned from a young age girls have the capability to be just as violent in retaliation to their behavior I think they'd use violence as less of a weapon against us. Easy to default to dominating and attacking a person you automatically think won't fight back and their diseased brains think we're all docile subhumans. Boys will always be inferior to girls, testosterone limits brain function so they have an instinctive need to group up and bully girls kek. It's all one massive cope for being born as the gender truly controlled by their genitals and reproductive system. That's also why they want to control ours.
No. 1197506
>>1197447I made some older guys get expelled after they spat on my bag, it was nice.
I also used to punch and kick minimoids very often, mostly from my grade, they didn’t stop bullying me but at least I got to release some tension.
I’m still annoyed by how I got bullied for picking the wrong girl to be my best friend though, I got quite traumatized by that shit, I would always get in trouble and people would isolate me because I picked the wrong best friend, even outside of school, these retards would cry and throw a hissy fit because they didn’t get picked, like what the fuck bitch? Grow up.
No. 1197532
>>1197510The main few cows I follow are deathfats and they all freak the fuck out any time someone mentions the option of getting surgery. Because it often does require effort to even qualify for it. Too much effort for alot of them. Sometimes they've to lose a certain amount of weight in preparation and then there's a liquid you have to be on for a while.
There's definitely options that are lazier than the surgery.. and that's doing nothing at all.
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>>1197483>I wish you were my friend both now and while I was in schoolWish I could find you nonnas irl
>If boys learned from a young age girls have the capability to be just as violent in retaliation to their behavior I think they'd use violence as less of a weapon against us.Possibly. I'm pretty sure I've traumatized one of them for life, because now as an adult he still acts skittish whenever he spots me outside and he's become a lot taller than me.
>Easy to default to dominating and attacking a person you automatically think won't fight back and their diseased brains think we're all docile subhumans.Everyone is unironically taught that though. Girls are told to be submissive and docile, boys are encouraged to be violent and get a "boys will be boys" at most. Parents, school, everyone tries to meme girls from birth into being docile. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy, you could raise a girl to be similarly violent, but you need schizo level brainworms for that, since most parents are stuck in sexist thinking even when they try to do gender neutral parenting (see delusions of gender by Cordelia Fine). So then people assume that girls and boys are naturally like that.
>>1197503Based
>>1197506Yeah the problem is that you have to be unhinged with the amount of violence against them to get them to stop. I genuinely believe that schools aren't much different from prisons when you look at the behavior of children and how snitching to teachers is treated. The only way to truly be safe is to immediately identify the biggest bully and go apeshit. It's also how I avoided being bullied by girls. They saw how unhinged I was to the boys, so the popular girls left me alone and weird spergy shy girls would flock to me partially for protection. Sperg gang.
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picrel is daft punks's weakest album imo Idk why so many people celebrate it as their peak. There are some good songs on it but it is nothing that works from start to finish as their earlier albums like "Discovery" for example.
No. 1197536
>>1197523Why the fuck is your sensitive ass coming in the unpopular opinion thread just to get offended? Sounds fat.
>>1197532how is losing 30lbs then getting surgery harder than losing all the weight? If you wanna remain fat, remain fat. I didn't say anything about that. This is about weight loss.
No. 1197538
>>1197523but it is selfish. being fat is a choice, no matter how hard or difficult it may be for someone to lose fat, it's still a choice. and tbh, when you are morbidly obese it's actually very easy to drop fat simply from taking a short slow walk on a treadmill and not shovelling shit down your throat every single day.
there is nothing wrong with getting fat - it happens a lot more thanks to sedentary lifestyles, shit food and lack of discipline, but there is everything wrong with STAYING fat. when you're so massive you get to the point where you need gastric surgery because you're too inept to just simply eat less and move more, you are a failure, and everyone should have the common sense to look at themselves and re-asses their lifestyle and health - but most people don't, because it's so easy to blame obesity on genetics or beauty standards or being "big boned".
No. 1197553
>>1197547I've defintely met pickmes way older than 25. I'd argue if you're a pickme after 35 you're a pick me for life lol
>>1197549She literally killed herself becausee she didn't want to work out. Her family are griving her right now because she liked mcdonalds too much. There was no reason for her to die other than her own vanity. Grow up. You obviously know someone who got this surgery or got it yourself. They/you are selfish, too.
No. 1197554
>>1197526I just thought it was crazy OP said that about some random woman just because she didn't like what surgery she got.
>>1197538Sure, but I just don't see how it's selfish to get gastric bypass surgery.
>>1197536I'm not offended. Do you think people aren't allowed to say they disagree just because it was posted in the unpopular opinions thread?
>>1197531Dying isn't selfish, especially when she was attempting to lose the weight. I agree with the other anon who said it's better than doing nothing at all.
No. 1197555
>>1197526>>1197531>>1197536nta but I don't think that anon was being too sensitive. Anyway, my mother used to be obese and getting the gastric bypass surgery significantly helped her with her weightloss, and now she's at a normal weight. I don't really understand
>>1197510 preoccupation with the idea of being 'morally bad ways to lose weight'. All that matters if it it works or not
No. 1197562
>>1197553Reposted here
>>1197554 , but no I don't know anyone who got the surgery. If anything, you're the one who sounds personally offended. Since we're making assumptions, you honestly sound like someone who would call people who commit suicide selfish. The lady who you are seething over clearly wanted to make her life better if she even got the procedure.
No. 1197583
>>1197570because that would require accountability and discipline
nonnie! they want the sympathy points and easy way out via surgery which is why most of them look like shit even after the surgery
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>>1197561Hah. I wish I were fat, better than rapid involuntary weightloss.
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>>1197631>>1197639I was slightly overweight at first, but not with a super high bodyfat percentage, because bodybuilder/powerlifter. At first I was like, alright I can stand to lose a couple lbs. Then it turned into sheer panic, when it just won't fucking stop. I feel like I lost more muscle than fat too, so I don't know what the fuck people are complimenting me about.
No. 1197833
>>1197449But I am born a woman,
nonnie.
No. 1197865
>>1190985 the community largely lives by that "live and let live" ideology
then why do we have all these stupid self-id laws?
No. 1197889
>>1194193why do girly girls act like they're at risk of violence for saying this?
YOU'RE FUCKING NORMAL
No. 1197975
>>1197889Nlogs get heavily
triggered by girly things, that's why
No. 1197992
>>1197975>>1194193NTA but why do women HAVE to enjoy them? I'm fine with not mocking, but people can't help their tastes and this girly stuff is already societally enforced. Some women will never be girly and that should be okay. There are massive societal and social consequences for being gender nonconforming, which you can't compare to a couple weird girls getting "
triggered" at you. I'll compliment women on their dresses, nails, accessories, cute dogs etc, but it'll never be for me.
No. 1198027
>>1197889>they're at risk of violence for saying this?you're being dramatic at this point, no one acted overly oppressed or anything
depends on the womans experiences though. I've had ex boyfriends who were too caught up in machoism and NLOG female friends mock me for liking "basic" things, in fact, it felt like anytime in the past when I liked something girly I was belittled for it. it feels reassuring at times to hear that it's okay to enjoy stereotypically feminine things. I've never once felt in my life like society pushed me to like girly things, but I have felt there was a massive push away from it and that I was wrong for doing these things. These are all just my own personal experiences anyway. Don't get upset and try to undermine a problem a lot of women face, everyone experiences different things growing up and for me I was shamed for it
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It's literally better to be homeless than a shut in NEET. Terry Davis's downfall is well recorded, and his experience being homeless kinda supports my theory that it's better to be literally homeless than to be online 24/7
Before he became homeless he would just leave the house once a day to buy a soda, would rant about n-words and just overall seemed miserable. During the homeless arc he for brief moments seemed happier and more energetic.
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I hate the new nail painting trend for nerdy men. And I honestly don't much care for people being "NGC", but nerdy men that have fucking neckbeards but also pain their nails vivid colors and think they're breaking new ground piss me off somehow, and I'm not even sure why. The low effort? That they expect asspats for "bravery" when they usually live in very liberal cities anyway? Just because they're attention whores?
No. 1198650
>>1198369I agree that it should be consistent, and no one should be approved for plastic/beauty surgeries either, unless they are actually so ugly that it makes their life needlessly difficult (I'm talking Picasso features). Being average but "not pretty" isn't disabling.
On the other hand if they want to give men discounts for "facial feminisation" then do it for actual women too, for consistency's sake.
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>>1198845Eat this right hand bitch
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>>1198845It's so fucked up that they literally tried to oppress left handed people and there's still stigma nowadays. My left handed uncle was forced to write with his right hand while growing up, which caused him to write everything mirrored kek. Apparently it legit causes brain damage to force someone to write with their bad hand all the time.
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>>1198968It depends, not all of them do that anymore. Some just want to look like an alien or choose androgynous looks. Picrel is all the same person. You can think it's ugly, but doubt he's trying to be a woman.
No. 1199028
>>1199003agree. i hate when people get mad when you call them out for it too. "no anon, i got huge boobs for
me, because i was insecure, not because of what people said!" bitch, do you realize that if no one said anything negative to you, you wouldn't have been insecure? it's always the same thing.
No. 1199050
>>1199003yes, and very rarely do those same people keep their standards or insecurities to themselves. i was friends with someone who had lip fillers done and soon after she tried getting me to come along and get my lips done as if it was just a regular girls day out or something - like, what are you trying to say kek?
like another anon said the entire "i did this for ME!" thing is mostly bullshit too, considering we live in a world where our bodies and features are relentlessly picked apart every day, of course you didn't do it just for yourself so stop the cope.
we don't just develop insecurities or dysmorphia out of nowhere and i'm tired of women pretending like they did it solely for themselves - no, you got that boob job because chances are you were bullied by someone for having naturally sagging or small breasts previously, or you got those lip fillers because someone made a comment about you having small or thin lips and your brain has been completely brainwashed by shit you're looking at on the internet every day.
the ultimate proof of this is the huge percentage of women who end up on the plastic surgery slippery slope - first it's "oh i'll just get fillers" then you're booking brow lifts, breast implants, fat transfers or a BBL. It's very unlikely that it just stops at one surgical procedure.
No. 1199177
>>1199157nah it sounds petty, but they're right, until you see it with your own eyes you wont understand.
Alot of white men especially in small towns have a blonde fetish, and white dark haired brunettes are either expected to be super beautiful or to dye their hair blonde so they have more dating options.
Also i always see
woc pickmes get mad at brunette women for saying this because they are also competing for white men with them.
And before you accuse me of being brunette, im a redhead.
No. 1199194
>>1199182ever thought that not everyone wants to fry and destroy their hair.
>>1199185Dark haired white men or racially ambiguous white men definitely do care about hair color though, they would date a blonde woman with the same features that they would find hideous if it was a woman with a different hair color. I mean if they're hooking up with and dating hideous or obese women as long as they are blonde then it is a fetish.
No. 1199262
>>1199157>>1199177Watching
white people debate the "brunette vs blonde vs redheads" thing is always kind of funny to me lol. Every conversation about it seems so serious and I just don't get it. It's literally just a haircolor
but I admit that I do love natural and dyed red hair. So pretty and it flatters so many people. Brown and blonde women are cute too of course. No. 1199275
>>1199262whats funny to me is when
woc want to give their 2 cents into this when this is the white version of colorism but instead of singling out women based on how dark their skin is they do it based on their hair and eye color since they are white.
No. 1199277
>>1199275>white version of colorismThis is retarded. Colorism is
toxic because someone can't lighten their skin, ever. Petty brunettes betties should just get a dye-job and shut up.
No. 1199294
>>1199277so brunettes should just dye their hair and wear blue contact lenses all their life instead of daring to complain because they dont have the same experiences as you.
>>1199285its not as severe as colorism so i regret comparing it but it is similar.
No. 1199325
>>1199275sorry gonna have to agree with
>>1199277 here that this is an absolutely r-word take. in no world is hair color or the way women are treated for being blonde/brunette/red/dangerhaired in any way similar or comparative to colorism, i dont think you even know what that word means after rereading this comment a few times trying to understand where you're coming from. i dont even understand how a similarity could be drawn.
people dye and change their hair all the time. no dye job no matter how complex or badly done will compare to the amount of pain and physical mutilation that women have done to lighten their skin in 3rd world countries using bleaching chemicals or can compare to the slurs used and the way a dark skin black woman is treated in comparison to another black woman just a few shades lighter by others, let alone when compared to a fair skinned woman. and even after painful skin bleaching and lightening treatments that do lasting damage to the bodys cells that still doesnt remove the way they're treated if they're still considered "too dark". its the difference between getting viewed as "exotic" or an "african booty scratcher" and having blonde or brown hair is in no way similar.
No. 1199334
>>1199274Is it a male preference or because platinum blondes are perceived as easy?
>>1199277>>1199294The only thing blondes have going for them is being seen as dumb easy bimbos or good targets to become a tradwife, but white brunettes are taken more seriously, seen as smarter, more down to earth etc. Just because blondes seem to get more male attention, doesn't mean it's quality attention and there's more to whether someone is privileged than whether someone gets more male attention or not.
No. 1199341
>>1199325yes that's why i said regretted comparing it
>>1199294 .
Still doesn't change that the other things i said was right. I dont understand why
poc women butt themselves in things like this when it has nothing to do with them. It reminds me of that tiktok of that brunette talking about how men always chose their blonde friends over them and all the duets were just black women making fun of her or telling her to shup and go blonde which was weird because it has nothing to do with them.
>>1199334its not like that in real life or media anymore, the ''dumb'' stereotype is practically almost dead.
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The wall comes for all. Remember that woke feminists and third wave. Butch woman and pretty androgynous stay hot.
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>>1199341It does matter to employers and people still take blondes less seriously
>>1199343>Butch woman and pretty androgynous stay hot.Practically nobody anymore thinks butch women are hot in the first place, so idk what you're on about.
I'm butch myself so let me vent in peace No. 1199369
>>1199325I agree with you on the most serious level. Also, no one really talks about the fact that colorism isn't even just a beauty game. Studies have shown it literally affects where/if you get employed, probability of going to jail, etc. It's fucked
But from a standpoint of saying "white version of of colorism" as a joke, I kind of disagree with you. It's just the closest thing they have to it, it's almost funny because it seems so insane. It's always shocking to me when I see entire threads get derailed over brunette vs blond, because I feel like to the rest of the globe, it's such a non-issue
It makes me realize the shit women go through never ends, though. There's literally always something. If you're a woman, you'll get attacked for having dark skin. If you were born with fair skin, they'll be nicer, but then you're gonna get nitpicked anyway for not having a certain hair color. Notice how colorism doesn't seem to affect dark-skinned black and brown men nearly as much as it affects women, and how white men almost never get this hung up on shit like hair color? Why aren't brunette men having meltdowns about not being blond, or the other way around?
As women, we're constantly doing something wrong just by physically existing lol
No. 1199383
>>1199365Male mass shooters are a combination of our media, reporting, porn, and social culture. It’s male entitlement of
> I deserve the world. Combined with failure to start young men with learned helplessness.
> the world is fucked, the women are whores, I’ll never get rich, I’ll never own anything.Our media sensationalizing and giving them infamy, so they may have been forgettable and never remembered before, but now
> My face will be everywhere! Even Glee had a school shooter episode and other shoes too.
Then throw in the porn and violence wearing down the empathy and dehumanizing others and you have a
toxic cocktail.
All you need then is a pressurized echo chamber feeding them to keep the pressure going and then we have more gun violence.
The problem is this isn’t fixed by banning guns. I went to school with a kid that tried to blow it up because he couldn’t get a gun. He still badly injured people and attempted to kill kids. The problem is our culture. (Guns do need better legislation.)
So I agree with you. It’s absolutely a male burgerland problem.
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>>1199362>But the fact is that the society systematically penalizes GNC people for being the way they are and that's a fact.Found a study to back up your claim, btw was surprised they're still doing studies specifically on LGB populations in 2021. Cool.
No. 1199414
>>1199392Yes. No names. No faces. Call them the shooter. Take away their identity. Focus on the
victims. Humanize them. We need to come together and care and grieve. Make it known we as a country don’t care about the shooter. They’re pathetic and insignificant and should be remembered as such.
> 8 children killed by armed gunman at Tx School. More details at 6 > remembering the the victims and their families > the president remembers the victims. > the tragic shooting at Tx school Instead of
> salavdador ramos the gunman > ramos grandfather had no idea he had the guns > gunman sent messages to girls before Etc
Make it know we think he’s pathetic and doesn’t deserve to be remembered. He wants your rage and obsession. It’s attention and when you give it you inspire the rest of the insects.
No. 1199424
>>1199397idgaf what men want, not everyone cares about that. But the way men and society perceives you does have its benefits and privilege's in life.
Again i was only speaking up from what ive noticed, personally i dont care since most of those men who put blonde women on a pedestal tend to be ugly beady eyed, dark haired coomer men who are ashamed of their own features so they take it out on beautiful brunette women. But there are benefits that blonde women get in life due to men putting them on a pedestal.
also i dont know why whenever discussion like this happen theres always someone who isnt neither a white brunette or a blonde telling them to shut up like why dont you shut up instead since its something you cant relate to.
>>1199409i fucking knew it lmao
No. 1199435
>>1199424White people can comment on
woc experiences all the time but
woc can't comment on white bitches with dark features constantly complaining about other women? Maybe you need an outside opinion so you can snap out of your pickme delusions.
No. 1199452
>>1199435i never commented on
woc experience and i call out the colorism all the time, so what was your point because i can assure you the same white people commenting on
woc experiences don't care about the brunette vs blonde debate.
Also if want to mention pickmes then i met more blonde pickmes than any other pickmes.
No. 1199458
>>1199414This. I get that most
victim families don't want to talk about it but
victims need to be humanized to stop this, they weren't just NPCs being gunned down but real people who had real lives and families. The shooters need to be ridiculed and not be portrayed as some poor lonely boys who were boolied into shooting up an elementary school. Nobody idolizes Randy Stair because everyone knows he was a proto-AGP obsessed with children's cartoons who failed at youtube and unironically thought that he'd become a lesbian ghost girl if he killed himself, the same needs to be done to this pampered little shit who whined about being poor but had the latest top of the line iPhone in his selfies and two automatic rifles both priced at $2000+.
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>>1199459>>1199429Both of you read over my last point,
>there's more to whether someone is privileged than whether someone gets more male attention or notbecause you don't seem to understand the implications this has for women in the workplace. Me pointing out correctly the way men view blonde women, doesn't mean I want to be "picked" by them. I'm literally not attracted to them. That doesn't change how hair color affects women in the work place. All you can think of is how blonde women are somehow privileged because you think you get more male attention when you dye your hair blonde, but you don't give a shit about real world consequences like literally a LOWER WAGE.
No. 1199476
>>1199463before you call me a pickme do you see the way white blonde women behave. Most blonde women are the epitome of pickme and libfem which is why men put them on a pedestal because they are trashy.
>>1199466i swear this shit exists only in the media and bs surverys because there are tons of blondes in the workplace and high positions in real life, or are you going to deny that.
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>>1199476Wow anon you’re right look how many of the six highest paid female ceos of all time are blonde!!!
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Who gives a shit about blondes and brunettes when it's obviously bluenettes who are superior to everyone else.
No. 1199511
>>1199476>blonde women are trashy but they also get more jobs! Like I said men only see them sexually in the last post but now I'm saying they get hired more because I'm out of arguments!>blonde women are biggest pickmes even though I've been crying for hours cause men prefer them over me!Um… Just get your hair dyed, petty bitch. I don't know what a blond girl did to you but you acting like this is similar to racism and dying your hair grants you a privilege is fucking hilarious.
You're saying you don't like men but why care so much about appealing to their tastes then? You won't get hired or something just because you're blonde, you're blaming your hair for everything but also screaming when anons suggest you to dye it if you believe it'll fix your issues. It won't.
>>1199507Brunette anon doesn't think so but it's mainly because she thinks she can blame everything on her hair color, even though like %80 people are naturally brunettes.
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>>1199507Blackette supremacy all the way.
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>>1199511As a bluenette supremacist I literally could not care less about all this petty fight.
>>1199518Blackettes with red streaks are a close second.
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>>1199498I've also never seen any bluenettes in positions of power either. Discrimination much? Is everyone else keeping them down because they're just jealous of their swag?
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>>1199544Sadly, much like, Sonic, she's also used as merely a mascot with no actual power. This exploitation of bluenettes need to stop.
No. 1199549
>>1199539atleast three women in that picture are blondes. proving my point that this anon
>>1199498 is a butthurt blonde who is purposefully cherry picking surverys and picture to make them self feel
victim because being blonde is the only achievement they have in their life.
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>>1199549atleast three of them are blondes.
No. 1199573
this whole debate wouldnt have started if some of you wouldnt have gotten so butthurt at that other anons and me saying blonde women are put on a pedestal.
Its a fact.
>>1199561ok spaghetti bitch.
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>>1199559Who you voting for anons?
No. 1199618
>>1199416You wish, sweetie
>>1199424You're point being?
>>1199448I'm bi
No. 1199629
>>1199602miku pres
xj9 vice pres
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>>1199648I'm sorry anon but
>don’t post partum anything.reminded me of pic related kek
No. 1199686
>>1199383Good fucking post, the media are
incredibly complicit in it all and constantly create scapegoats so nobody discusses the role of these networks and other outlets in what's going on. If they get everyone at each other's throats then nobody looks at how they are sensationalizing it and making killers into celebrities.
No. 1199695
>>1199670It’s a choice, don’t have kids when you’re mentally ill to be frank. It’s not true that perfectly sane women get that post partum psychosis bs.
>hurr dont have kids omgOf course you retarded ass anon, I don’t want any kids, they’d end up horrible. But that makes me a bad mom, but a good decent person that doesn’t contribute to the bad production like our parents did. Retard
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>>1199695You should read the happy housewife. Completely normal woman ends up with post partem psychosis due to unresolved trauma SHE WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF. Even if she were, every mental health professional ever tries to talk women into having children and says that mental illness is no excuse. Whole families pressure women. Friends, partner, even professors at university won't shut the fuck up about it. Women are made to feel less than or like they've not fulfilled their biological destiny. So go pick a bone with retarded society, not women who were gaslit into it. You have to be extremely stubborn to not have children. Even lesbians cannot escape the pressure and are memed into getting IVF.
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Zoomer wojaks are cute, especially the black ones. I like that they're actually made by women and have multiple different variations, not just worthless moids making and reposting the same plain/generic drawing, with either Chads or soyboys or generic waifus.
To begin with, the original 4chan Wojak was just a remix of the 9gag "foreveralone" meme. There is nothing to protect/gatekeep unless you're an actual robot, and even that is sad because having an attachment to it means that your community wasn't creative enough to make something outside of shit normalfag sites from the start
No. 1200231
>>1200202>9gag "foreveralone" memeum ackshually foreveralone originated on FunnyJunk
I know nobody cares but I'll never forget funnyjunk users being so proud of themselves one of their own made a successful meme kek
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>>1200232>>1200202Massively disagree, these memes almost prove the exact opposite of what your saying, a handful of shit posters on 4chan managed to create something that only others replicate and create variations off, these variations will die off with in a couple months but the original wojak will remain
also all the wojak edits didn't originate from the original wojak, rather these 4 templates(also created on 4chan) the doomer, 30 year boomer(made to make fun of older users on /v/) the zoomer(made to make fun of underage users on /v/)
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>>1200244idk, do you really think picrel is more pleasing then the original wojaks
>>1200251oh yeah your right, there copies of copies, that's even more pathetic
No. 1200269
>>1200263So you admit 4channers are copycats and not "le original basedboys"? That's all I wanted to confirm kek. The fact that neckbearded scrotes were the first to rip things off and co-opted them for "muh feeeeels" on the most misogynistic board makes them the most pathetic.
And not those, but the good thing is that there's different kinds. Plus, even the ones you posted actually have a level of creativity and fun placed into them. Incels are literal bots, so all they can do is repost the same templates for days on end
No. 1200282
>>1199945Don’t worry I won’t make the same mistake your parents have.
>>1199951>housewife slave gets a psychosisWell no shit.
No. 1200284
>>1199951Also i forgot to say that looks like a good read thnx anon.
Maybe it changes my mind but i read in all sources post partum debression is comorbid with other mental illnesses
No. 1200445
>>1200422>I don't think gay couples having kids means they were "memed" into itEver heard of gay and lesbian assimilationism? It's a whole lot of trying to be as gender conforming as possible and trying to have the perfect white picket fence life, to make up for being gay or lesbian. The real reason why lesbians and gay men weren't accepted, was because of the lack of reproduction coming from it and the risk of gender nonconformity. Through expensive technologies, now you can completely fit in and assimilate by having kids just like everyone else, you have no excuses anymore. Having kids because you want to prove to yourself and your parents that you're one of the "good normal ones ones" isn't great motivation to have kids.
>it's also natural and normal to want kidsBit of an appeal to nature and normality right there. Just because something is normal and natural, doesn't mean it's good. A lot of natural things are harmful. Lots of things are normal and harmful. Not much of an argument right there. If it were a good idea for everyone, then you wouldn't need society grooming women from birth into being mothers. Then you wouldn't have to disadvantage childless people in the workplace. Then you wouldn't need psychologists and psychiatrists trying to convince obviously mentally unwell women to have children, when it's probably not a good idea and they don't even want them.
No. 1200472
>>1199951>Even lesbians cannot escape the pressure and are memed into getting IVF.why is IVF even legal when there's millions of kids waiting to be adopted? so people can have ~their own~ that they'll just throw to babysitters anyway? I'm convinced IVF folks are a new level of narcs
it always pisses me off when I see people post "100k in IVF, 6 miscarriages, 3 stillbirths and we finally got a rainbow baby at 50!" like you spent all that money just to have ~your~ baby when you could have happily raised a child in need? and now you gotta raise teens in your 60s and die before you meet your grandkids because you think having bio kids in an overpopulated world is a necessity
No. 1200487
>>1200486>mistakeparent's don't die, get sick or anything?
>If you are going to commit your entire life to your child and grow your family I think you have a right to be as selfish as you wish about itit's narcissistic to whine about blowing tons of money and having kids when you're way older just because you wanted your own. Also when we're getting deathly overpopulated it's time for some people to put their foots down and call out selfish bullshit when they see it
No. 1200492
>>1200445I mean, clearly you think that having kids in general is bad/harmful so I won't bother trying to change your mind or anything. Nothing is wrong with lesbians wanting to have children and while I'm sure that there are gays becoming parents to prove that they are normal, I definitely don't think that's the case for everyone. Being gay doesn't mean that stuff like the desire/goal of being a parent will just go away for you. I also don't think that having kids is a good idea for everyone, it's fine to choose not to have children and it's actually great that more people are making that decision or realizing that they shouldn't have kids.
>Just because something is normal and natural, doesn't mean it's goodBut it doesn't mean they were memed into it either.
No. 1200518
>>1200492>But it doesn't mean they were memed into it either.A whole lot of them literally were. Call it socialization or what have you, but due to intense pressure from heteropatriarchy to reproduce and internalized lesbophobia, it becomes very difficult to pinpoint whether someone actually wants children for the right reasons, or just because everyone else is doing it and to fit in. Add to that again the disadvantaging of childless people in the workplace and other areas of life, it's very difficult to prove that someone is actually doing it because they want to. The ones I talked to who claim to want to have children, oftentimes don't even really like children all that much and expect their future partner to be the ones to carry it, basically preemptively pushing the responsibility off of themselves. Why not just adopt at that point? But nooo that makes you different from the straights again, can't have that! Have. to. fit. in.
>>1200472>why is IVF even legal when there's millions of kids waiting to be adopted?because people are obsessed with reproduction
>>1200514Yeah and next you're going to talk about the biological clock. I swear there has been a whole flood of tradwives and scrotes on here.
No. 1200530
>>1200514>pretending that humans don't have ingrained genetic desire to have children is delusionalSo then why isn't it ingrained in most people to be good parents? Most parents are varying shades of neglectful, dismissive, or emotional
abusive. Hmm, it's almost like most people are societally forced into having kids instead of actually wanting them
No. 1200535
>>1200518I mean sure anon, I just think it's kind of dumb to pretend like being gay means you can't actually want to have kids or that gay people having a normal life means they're trying too hard to "fit in with the straights".
>I swear there has been a whole flood of tradwives and scrotes on here.Since when has that been a tradwife thing? Most animals have an innate desire to reproduce, for obvious reasons.
No. 1200554
>>1200524As long as people are able to provide for their kids when they get sick, for education, etc money shouldn't matter. I've met plenty of working class parents who are smart, discipline their kids, take advantage of social programs for them such as Medicaid, and are actually there for their kids. I've also met lots of rich parents who throw their kids to caregivers and daycares and the only time they really see their kids are the car ride over and the car ride back. Rich parents also have a tendency to spoil their kids which leaves them entitled, bratty and troubled. Working class parents can be shitty too obviously but if you have the main things set then the actual process of raising kids is more important
I also notice rich parents have kids a lot older (40s-50s) and opt for tons of medical intervention during the pregnancy (elective c sections, formula over breast feeding, IVF, early inductions, etc) and you notice it has caused a massive effect which caused a lot of long term issues in said kids all because they wanted to take the easy route. That's also why I believe it seems like rich kids all have millions of health issues where as poor kids barely have any. I worked with kids most of my life and these are just from my own observations. While finances is a huge thing with raising kids, we NEED to take biology, mental stability, presence, and everything else into factors. Focusing exclusively on how rich one is completely fucked over generations
No. 1200562
>>1200513>ThE wEsTThe west has been riddled with shit tons of issues that people have no business shoving kids into
Sickingly inflated medical costs, low quality food and health products only being available, gentrification and inflation ruining the chances of most young people making it on their own, extremely competitive fields to the point where kids are terrified to fuck up our of fear they'll get rejected for uni, pedos and abusers everywhere and courts not caring, porn addiction preying on everyone, low quality medical care, it's basically expected to get into debt nowadays, lack of clean water and air in most communities, etc
Not saying other countries don't have these issues but the west has became a literal shit show and dragging kids into a world where they're set up for life time debt unless you can shovel out tons of money for medical bills and college is fucked. USA and other western countries are becoming just as dystopic as the countries you're mentioning but you don't see any of it because the media just plasters Kardashian tier shit everywhere and everyone likes to larp as richies. At least in 3rd world countries they're not so damn car and technology dependent so it's one less thing poor people are expected to have to function
No. 1200576
>>1200568I'm good with having a coffee date. I dont want to eat a whole meal in front of someone I don't know yet. I've anxiety in general so I just wouldn't be enjoying my food or even digesting it well given first date nerves lol
Men who want to walk in a park who don't mention grabbing a coffee or an ice cream are maybe my limit. A small gesture like a coffee still says something important. I've heard alot of stories lately about tinder dates who suggest a walk in the park and they're determined not to spend one cent on even a drink or a snack.
No. 1200603
>>1200590It's sad if we're at the point where we have to even consider that a man buying a cup of coffee might feel 'ripped off' if things don't go anywhere.
>>1200602I saw some pua style vid before where they told guys to set up as many dates as possible no matter if they're attracted to the woman or not and to go for walks. Never to spend a penny and to just maximise the number of women they see til someone is willing to fuck for free. They'll waste your time.. but not their money. Mean mentality but it's catching on with more of them. Relationship thread has had a few anons thinking about going to a guys house for the first meet.. and he's not even talking about cooking for them. All risk and zero incentive to go there.
No. 1200867
>>1200853I don't have my shit together on the level that the 'that girl' trend promotes. I set myself a different standard because I've (well mostly, ongoing issues) overcome pretty bad physical setbacks. That being said.. I don't care to shit on anyone giving that stuff a go. Aim high and you can always take it down a notch if it's too high.
I do think like alot of self-improvement stuff, most of the time people give things a shot and it's a temporary thing that falls to the wayside or isn't 'the answer' they built it up to be. But there's no harm in trying. It's better than the twitter culture of asking for praise for getting out of bed at 6pm and eating a frozen pizza.
> I left my bed today > I took my meds today > That's enough. I am enoughDo you need to be in a hospital right now?
No. 1200927
>>1200867I get what you're saying about attention hungry Twitter munchies but as someone who has been depressed for my entire life sometimes the bar really is that low. I don't brag about it on the internet nor do I think it's healthy or ideal, but I think it pays to have some compassion for those of us fighting for our lives out here. Healing from trauma requires you to celebrate your victories, no matter how small.
Ofc if you were just joking then sorry for taking it seriously
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>>1200924Having a routine isn't what "that girl" videos are showing though. It's overpriced everything galore, getting at up 5 AM, the same cookie cutter room, hanging out with friends and eating fruits and veggies and nothing else (eating healthy is good but these things wouldn't be filling for most women)
No job, no school work, very little house chores if anything at all. You really think people would have issues if it was "only about having a routine and being healthy"? Even healthy and fit people are calling out the nonsense. You don't need pictures of 80 dollar water bottles to have a routine. You don't need to see skinny girls in lulu lemon to workout. You don't need to exclusively eat salads to be a healthy eater. you don't need a brand new MacBook and airpods to be good at school. You're completely missing the point when people call out the trend
No. 1200988
>>1200927I said the line about needing to be in hospital because tbh I've been inpatient before and that was when I saw women who were only leaving the bed a couple times a day to pee (with assistance shuffling them along) and they were frighteningly near comatose for the vast majority of the day.
It feels like twitter users want to try and claim to be at that level… but while also tweeting all day long about it. Sure.
No. 1201029
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>>1200936You're right, but you're missing that
>>1200853 probably knows all that and just wanted to LARP online about not being a "faildaughter" kek
I've realized that there's an entire type of young woman online who defends really silly things because she aspires to be them and/or just wants to look down on other girls and women. Since they're not exactly where they want to be yet, they try to mentally widen the gap between themselves and what they fear by talking about who or what they don't want to be as much as possible
One example is average-sized or chubby girls who sperg about fat women 24/7 in communities like "ED twitter", even though actual thin users don't fixate on fat people nearly as hard. Another is "coquettes" who call women who don't fully subscribe to their insecure mindset "femcels". It's not worth seriously engaging with these types of people, they tend to see the world in some messed up binary where you're either living like their Pinterest board or else you're everything undesirable ever. They'll hop from trend to trend forever, getting pissed at anyone who even slightly critiques whatever they're idolizing at the moment and wondering why they're still not satisfied
No. 1201054
>>1201021I completely agree with you
nonnie. My mom grew up poor and lived in a not-so-developed place while have pcos, but she still had to use pads made out of clothes (not even good ones - they were old and discarded) and clean + sew them herself ever since she got her period at the age of 9. Good for nonnies who are more comfortable with and prefer to use cloth pads, but it isn't for everyone and I'm tired of people acting like a woman using a non-reusable pad would cause the end of this planet. If moids had periods, these same people wouldn't say shit to them.
No. 1201066
>>1201054They mean well but it comes from a position of privilege. As is I live with indoor running water and a washing machine but I still can't really make use of reusable pads. I don't have a private ensuite bathroom so I'd need to wash and dry the pads in a bathroom shared with other people (including men, yuck) and you're actually not even supposed to be drying them indoors for proper sanitation (ideally you dry them somewhere they'd get sunlight). The washing machine and dryer can't also really be used for such a small load either, that takes up heat and electricity, the cost of which affects everyone else in the household). The majority of people online I see who use reusable pads seem to live either alone or with just their SO or spouse.
I refuse to feel guilty about using modern, disposable menstrual products. Hearing of the alternative from my older family members made me very grateful.
No. 1201186
>>1201021*women
anyway I think it's pretty obvious anons recommend these from the assumption they do have access to these basic needs. You can't tack on a disclaimer every time you talk about something someone else may not have access to. Unless you want this to become twitter.
No. 1201188
>>1201185No panties aren't same as pads. You don't wear your panties straight against the yourself when you're bleeding, you also don't bleed into your panties and let it sit which is what causes bacteria and stuff to produce in pads at a fast rate. You also can't get %100 sanitazion just by boiling something, if that was the case we wouldn't use chlorine in drinking or using water and just be finr with boiling it.
>>1201177I don't know which fabric they use so I can't comment, unfortunately.
No. 1201191
>>1201185Part of the problem is the advice given online being fucking terrible. They aren't regulated like other medical devices so women are buying them off of other (stupid) women that give poor instructions for sanitation. I'm baffled by the number of times I have seen people say they let their soiled pads soak in a container (how is this useful for people that don't live alone?). If you are handwashing you might not be getting the water hot enough to actually sanitize it but the bigger issue is drying. You should be drying them somewhere where there is adequate airflow and sunlight, like line drying outside.
>>1201186I specifically lodged my complaint at people that would recommend them to people in precarious situations, because there are unfortunately people who are naïve enough to recommend them to people without all those 'basic needs'. I've seen that fairly often (though less so on lolcow). I have 'basic needs' in quotes because a lot of basic needs aren't actually that basic, many, many people don't have washers or dryers if they live in apartment buildings for instance. And if you're poor and living with other people you don't have as much privacy to wash your soiled pads or space/privacy to hang them dry. There were calls to send reusable pads to refugee Ukrainian women for example, I think they'd much prefer conventional disposable products.
No. 1204283
>>1180929I agree with this hypothesis- men seem to despise adult women especially with natural bodies
However I think its cause natural male heterosexuality has been memed away by porn
No. 1204321
>>1186649>>1186658me three, fuck that song and queen in general
if you wanna listen to dissonant shit frank Zappa is way better
No. 1204350
>>1204346Popeyes tendies are as dry as their biscuits around here. Their nuggets mid too, they should just stick to legs and thighs.
Raising Canes is where I’d go if I want tendies.
No. 1205117
>>1205099petril dish and baby in mommy's womb are not the same thing lol.
>>1205103It is a child, just one that is still building its little body. That's how children are made.
No. 1205132
>>1205117why not? what is the difference? millions of people are conceived in vitro, are they less human than other people? aren't they both children?
>>1205124that is pro choice
No. 1205143
>>1205134Nothing murderous about it. They are not children being carried by their mothers. They are a scientific experiment.
>>1205137I am not saying that they can not be loved and be normal people. But they are not children that are currently being gestated by their moms. They are a scientific experiment.
No. 1205162
>>1205158you know what, I think you're right
I also have always thought the massive uptick in female teacher cases being reported on in the news was because they're read so much because moids LOOOVE reading about them because it proves women are like so totally terrible just like men- they love to bring this shit up despite men being universally 10000000x worse
No. 1205168
>>1205165I see that I misunderstood now, sorry
In my defense, it's the middle of the night and I've been up for hours. I still think it's kinda weird to tinfoil about teacher/student relationships being reported on though.
No. 1205232
>>1205143>children conceived in vitro are a scientific experiment what the actual fuck is wrong with you lol amazing, love that it's sociopaths like you legislating on what I can do with my body
also you still haven't explained why it's not murder. I get that they arent in the mothers womb but are they children yes or no? is being in a mother's womb what makes you a child? is an ectopic pregnancy a child? is it murder to abort the latter?
No. 1205236
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>>1205195>Ex fujoit's definitely brainrot, either get some help and love yourself or do the repulsive act that is anal
check the fakeboi thread on /snow/ that might help you from this delusion as I know some anons as peaked with that No. 1205254
>>1205195First realize how utterly disgusting anal sex and how many diseases it causes, also you need to start a program to heal yourself from porn brain rot, you have to replace those urges in your brain, I wasn't a fujo but I was into some fucked up degrading shit that really messed with my head, I had to fix those urges first while giving up porn, I'd go from periods of not watching porn at all(3 days) then mastrubate to my pre-downloaded vanilla porn once a day for 5 days total, then I'd stop watching for 9 days and repeated the same schedule with 5 days, even when I'd fail and get the urge I would still always use the vanilla porn I had
eventually 9 goes to 12, then to 15, to 20, then to 30, then 40 and finally after 45 I was finally healed
No. 1205272
>>1205259>they always end up disabled/spergythey really don't anon, sometimes the sperm and egg are both healthy but there are other complications.
I was conceived in vitro and I know I'm on lolcow but I promise I'm healthy and relatively normal lol and so is every other person I know who was. anyway regardless anon's reasoning still doesn't make sense, disabled/retarded people are still people
No. 1205273
>>1205259There's some truth to what you're saying as nutty as it sounds. I remember dating a porn addict who would try to fuck around with every girl who wasn't me and couldn't get pregnant regardless of how hard I tried. Found a new and stable man and immediately got pregnant with zero issues.
I also feel like men get fed the idea that they never have to be responsible for their fertility and if the woman can't get pregnant with their kid then it must be automatically her fault, as if drinking 3 monsters a day and living on chicken wings while being bombarded with millions of pixels of naked women and video games totally wouldn't effect their health but women are taught drinking a single soda is enough to cause infertility
No. 1205313
>>1204334Idk where you live nona, but the best tendies I ever had were from Krispy Krunchy Chicken with their signature dipping sauce. They were moist, not dry or greasy, and had a good meat to coating ratio + the seasonings were good. The sauce was similar to chick fil a sauce but tastier imo
>>1205158I don't think it's intentionally meant to be "porn," but I think the media is incredibly irresponsible and are basically handing over sensitive info to perverts so they get more clicks without any care for the
victims No. 1205551
>>1205510It's unecessary because not having kids isn't a health issue. Your lesbian cousin doesn't need to have a child to survive, she won't die from being childfree or whatever.
>my cousin wants a baby that is biologically hers.See? You said it yourself. She WANTS one. Wanting soemthing and needing something are two separate notions.
No. 1205572
>>1205510>Having kids is a necessityI don't think you understand what that means
>They want a kid that's theirsThat's your problem right there. You don't need a kid, and unless you're in a really good financial spot it's extremely retarded to spend that amount of money, time as well as fucking with your body that much just because "I just really want bio kids"
>Inb4 adopted kids are other people's burdensIf you can't be empathetic towards kids that need to be adopted don't expect people to be empathetic towards you just because you "really really want bio kids"
>But my biology!! Humans have been wanting this since forever!Humans have successfully existed since forever without every single little shit and their mom having kids too just because. Plenty of people live and die without reproducing. The vast majority of the animal kingdom has easily survived despite a small minority of that species population reproducing.
No. 1205590
>>1205558If people care about whether things are natural or not you could also argue that preventing pregnancy is unnnatural too. I mean my country isn't long past thinking that way about birth control and condoms. That it's unnatural and therefore wrong? Using a condom was controversial not long ago. The pill was controversial for 'playing god' when it comes to conception.
I feel lucky that I can prevent pregnancy without having to choose permanent celibacy to achieve that. Equally I want women who are my polar opposite and who desperately want pregnancy… I want them to have that choice too. We're both unnatural.
No. 1205605
>>1205593 >Nobody said anything about it being unnatural thoughI never said anyones post called it unnatural? I was saying in my country that's the point people care about and that's the argument I hear on repeat, for both ivf and for birth control and for abortion.. all are shamed for being unnatural. It's debated on repeat. All controversial for the same reason. I want a choice when it comes to not having a baby so given I'm aware of how many people want that right taken away from me… I'd be a hypocrite to shame women who also want control over their own family planning issues.
The fact that you don't link pregnancy prevention and ivf as being similar issues shows how you've never had to worry about prevention being take away from you… because of some hallow reasoning. It's not a nice feeling to have your fertility controlled and decided by strangers. In either direction.
No. 1205624
>>1205558You don't get it because you have a personal bias. You're not entitled to a kid. Having kids is a biological ability, if you can't have a kid then what? How is your quality of life affected? Why would you get a medical procedure for that? It's like getting plastic surgery because you want a straighter nose, it's useless and retarded. Just a question, do you have any important, life altering health issues?
>You can also say it about couple choosing to have kids the natural way. Are you comparing a simple, instictual act to paying several hundreds of thousands of dollars on getting kids because your genes are so defective you can't even have kids yourself? Honey, no…
>>1205605>I never said anyones post called it unnaturalWhy did you bring it up when replying to that anon?
>The fact that you don't link pregnancy prevention and ivf as being similar issues shows how you've never had to worry about prevention being take away from youI'm not sure I quite follow you there. You're saying both IVF and birth control are two sides of the same coin? You're insane if you think that, because being pregnant affects your quality of life and having a child affects your entire life, so having an unwanted kid isn't the same at all as willingly paying money to have a child.
No. 1205632
>>1205572I agree you don't need a kid, but some people, like my cousin, want a kid. How is that your problem and unnecessary for you, when it does not affect or involve you in any way?
> In the case of straight couples, there's a fucking reason why you don't have kids, don't force it to happen somehow. In the case of gay couples, too bad, you don't need kids, adopt kids who need a stable household or fuck off.I don't understand why you are SO hostile to something that does not affect you in any way. Yet is something that others greatly desire, all my cousin wants is to have a child.
No. 1205639
>>1205132Yeah I'm pro-choice for women because I can't and will never dictate other women's lives. I wanted to share my point of with anon that she could be against abortion herself but that doesn't mean she gets a say about what other women can do with their bodies.
It's a clump of cells in the end but I'd wonder how it'd be if the child was born, I'm also financially ok so I wouldn't have abort. Other women can do whatever they want. I think OP should be think this way too instead of acting like women are committing murder as if we don't have countless embryos die in the womb before one comes to life, most we don't even notice either because it's in the first weeks of the pregnancy.
No. 1205647
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>>1205572I legit feel like way too many people have kids "just because" and because everyone else is doing it. Especially if you're gay and already feel alienated from straights, it's easy to feel like after getting married, the next step to complete the larp is to do IVF. I'm glad samesex marriage is legal, but now everyone wants to go that route, even if it's fucking retarded, just to fit in with the rest. I want a partnership, because it legally makes more sense and I don't want to have to deal with a shitty judge and have an adversarial process in the case of divorce. I want to do it just through mediation and with a notary. It would save both a whole lot of money, time and pain in the worst case scenario, without giving up any rights. I don't have to call someone "my wife" to feel on par with straights. I would want to foster or adopt, because I was an abused and neglected kid myself and I know what it's like. Whenever I talk to other lesbians about it, they act like IVF is no big deal. Many don't even want to do it themselves, but just expect that their future partner will want to carry the kid. It hasn't escaped my notice in the statistics that partnerships, adoptions and fostering were becoming more popular than marrying and IVF, until the zoomers came of age. 1 in 3 marriages between women ended in divorce, why the fuck would I put anyone through IVF or get married for a fucking title, when there's such a high risk of a very shitty divorce through an adversarial court system?
No. 1205656
>>1205624I'm not really sure what you mean by personal bias. And no, my point was that having kids in general isn't a necessity regardless of how you create them. If the problem with IVF is that no one is entitled to having children then everyone who chooses to have them should get that criticism, even if it's something like AI.
Also I'm pretty sure that anon who replied to me was just adding her thoughts and offering a different perspective, not accusing anyone of saying anything. I actually think what she said was interesting.
No. 1205670
>>1205665I agree that it's fine to want something that's not a necessity (even though I don't agree with comparing children to food or clothes) or more specifically that it's fine to want kids
I want kids despite the fact that I'll never have them. I was responding to anon saying that having children isn't a necessity and that's why IVF is bad. Idk if you misunderstood, didn't get the full context or if I was unclear or something.
No. 1205676
>>1205644> Because I'm trying to understand your pov but so far you sound like a naive idiot.anon you really don't need to be so hostile. i am not going into detail of why my cousin desires a child so much and what it would mean to her. and yes having a child is not a necessary to literally.. staying alive, but why can't wanting to be happy be a necessity?
> t affects me because this procedure is paid for by public health insurance where I live, you know, with my taxes.we all have to pay taxes anon, why are you acting like this affects you alone?
No. 1205692
>>1205687I am the anon with the cousin about to start IVF, not that anon you just replied too.
> I see pregnancy as something that just happens by having straight sex. If you're a gay couple, too bad.you sound so narrow minded anon.
No. 1205693
>>1205687>I mean your biased because of your cousinYou're confused, that's a completely different anon.
>so we sort of agree on that tooI don't think AI is bad at all. The only thing I'm against is surrogacy because you're using another woman's body.
And pregnancy isn't something that "just happens" for a lot of people.
No. 1205694
>>1205678>Why shouldn't people do what they want when it harms no oneBringing human life in the world out of selfish desires absolutely is harmful. Let's me honest most people getting IVF either have breeding kinks or have their head too far up their own ass that they believe they ~must~ reproduce because they're that special. I'd kill myself if I found out my parents every had me for that reason
>But but HUMAN DESIRESIt's also human desire to want to fight over food and shit but I don't see you going out of your way to defend humans acting like baboons because of biology. Go live in the woods or something if you wanna live like an animal so badly plus statistically, only a portion of the animal population actually reproduces their entire lives, defending the idea that people should go out of their way and fuck around with expensive science to force pregnancies among themselves is literally contradicting to the "natural desire to have kids" argument. Do you know what happens to animals in the wild who can't reproduce? They either die trying to take in some fosters. Or grow the fuck up and deal with the fact you aren't going to die without kids
No. 1205699
>>1205694> Bringing human life in the world out of selfish desires absolutely is harmfulso you also mean women who have a child the natural way are also doing so out of selfish desires as doing so is something they want?
> Do you know what happens to animals in the wild who can't reproduce? They either die trying to take in some fosters.now you're really talking out of your ass kek
No. 1205707
>>1205682Why shouldn't we talk about the most important thing, which is the after process of IVF? You're not a scummy father, don't just put a baby in someone with zero thought into the aftermath of actually raising the baby. You really don't think it's dangerous to give people kids with no talk of after??
>Inb4 natural pregnancies and adoptionEvery single county in USA has a pregnancy center that offers parenting, pregnancy, etc classes to women as well as offering a variety of options when dealing with an unexpected pregnancy. I was completely expected to take them when dealing with an unexpected pregnancy after I chose to become a parent, why shouldn't we review the mental and physical health as well as expect people going through IVF to take classes on parenting? Because of generalizations? Too bad. You want to go out your way to bring kids on the world you sure as fuck should go out your way to actually learn how to care for them
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>>1205712>>1205694>Let's me honest most people getting IVF either have breeding kinks>breeding kinkNow you're just making stuff up. Are you sure there's no
projection going on here?
No. 1205726
>>1205697I don't. Gay marriage is legal in my country and I'm glad that the case, but I think having kids and being married isn't directly related. Why should everyone reproduce?
>>1205699If she's a competent mother who cares about her kids' wellbeing it's fine. I know enough selfish or even
abusive mothers who had kids just for their reputation, because it's their religious duty, because they think they're cute until they're 7 years old, because they want to trap their piece of shit bf/husband with a child, because they think their genes are special, etc. to know a bunch of women who want to have kids through artificial insemination or IVF have similar thought process but even worse because they have to actively plan on doing this.
No. 1205736
>>1205717I never feel bothered kids crying in public, but I can't think of many instances where I was right next to a crying kid in public, so it's more like a "wtf is making them scream so loud I can hear it over here?" feeling rather than feeling annoyed. I usually listen to music or podcasts in public though.
>>1205731I'm highly concerned about you.
No. 1205743
>>1205711>This is the most political lesbian piece of literature I've ever readI'm referring to this response to my post. All I did was look at the statistics of samesex marriage between women over a 20 year period (which is between 1/3 and 1/4), noticed that older couples started to do partnership more often because of it and that zoomers are the ones now jumping headfirst into marriage, despite the skyhigh divorce statistics. Considering how shitty divorce court is, I would much rather prefer a partnership, which gives the same legal protections and rights, except for being able to legally call someone "wife". The separation process is a lot less painful in the case it does happen, a lot less aggressive and adversarial. Not as expensive, doesn't take as much time. I legit feel like I'm a minority with this opinion among lesbians. Same thing with IVF, has anyone thought about how that is going to go in divorce court? You know the shitty things which can be said in such an adversarial environment, when the child has none of your genetics, and half of that of a random man? It's not pretty. At least adoption puts you on an equal footing and fostering is generally temporary. How am I a polilez for considering the high likelihood of separation?
>>1205731More straights do IVF and surrogacy than gays, so this is retarded. Just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
No. 1205769
>>1205761If you find me a single troon who is against IVF and judges people for having obvious breeding kinks I swear to God I will set my computer on fire. Please explain to me why someone who goes and has a million kids and gets IVF when they can't naturally conceive anymore, what motive could they possibly have that my little troon brain can only see as a breeding kink?
>You know it's a choice And? If you make retarded decisions you will get judged. People are allowed to question motives when you make questionable choices
No. 1205774
>>1205769> People are allowed to question motives when you make questionable choicespeople are also allowed to think IVF should be an option for women who cant have children due to fertility issues.
>>1205758>>1205763The fact anons are making the very clinical IVF process sound so perverted is why they sound like trannys.
No. 1205784
>>1205781agreed that it's not a kink. not always, at least. but there's still plenty of kids who need families who already exist. lol it doesn't make sense much. not the
nonnie you replied to though.