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This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse, particularly that which has a twitter or tumblr flavour to it.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Sapphic Underrepresentation in Fandom> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads> Whitewashing vs Blackwashing> ‘[Insert Sexuality]-Coded’ Characters> Sapphic vs Fujo Misogyny AccusationsPrevious thread
>>1878365 No. 1892917
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>>1892909Where are the games with unconventionally attractive female characters? Here you go. This is what you asked for.
No. 1892929
>>1892917Why is the one guy Samoan-White and not like Samoan-American. Why is the Italian named Keaton?? Is Bigs the real name???
>>1892928Which ones are the women?
No. 1892964
>>1892917they are obsessed with making
POC look ugly, they
are the racists they're supposedly fighting against.
No. 1892969
>>1892917kekkk, this shit is so stupid as racist, showing their ancestry first and foremost like some "which flavor you prefer?" kind of thing.
Please tell me this is just a shitpost and not an actual VN pitch.
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I’m a bit obsessed with the amount of hate the ATLA live action is receiving. It looks like it might be disappointing people are actually praising the movie
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>>1892978Idk why I’m happy to see the Netflix show receive hate. Bryke are no longer involved.
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kek
No. 1893132
>>1893064I think the tweet is saying that if Geto was a woman the fandom wouldn't give him that much attention or wouldn't sympathsise with him which maybe yeah fandom neglects female characters. But Geto gets becomes way more sympathetic after S2.
On the other hand fujoshis froth at the mouth because "everyone would ship her with Gojo and muh THEY'RE JUST FRIENDS" wouldn't be a thing.
No. 1893144
>>1893132Ngl seems a bit dumb to me and the amount of "m-mommy" shit would make it absolutely unbearable tbh.
If I'm being really rude, I'd say it's probably just people wanting to bang Gojo but not having more female characters to self insert into.
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>>1893129i don't get it either kek. pic spoilered for breastfeeding fanart
>>1893144but they get angry when gojo is shipped with a woman
No. 1893209
>>1892917oh god something about these designs make me irrationally angry. they feel so dishonest, these designs werent made with love they were only made to virtue signal and check boxes on a list. no surprise the white italian one is the most popular since he isnt dressed like a mess and doesnt look like a walking tumblr stereotype. some of these nationalities are very specific, couldnt they just choose a single country?
>>1893062ugly moid im tired of seeing him
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>>1893129there is a panel in the manga with a female version of him, so it became a popular meme/trend.
No. 1893362
>>1893308As an anime only fan, the words "culling game arc" sounds like a lot of people I like are about to die
sigh I knew I shouldn't have gotten attached to some of these bitches.
No. 1893368
Nonnie asked last thread so:
>>1892383You can try to check her facebook, she's from Slavonski Brod, out of politeness I only wanted to stick to stuff she posted publically online since you'd need to friend request her. + I think that part would get too specifically into town politics/local drama kek
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Wyll from BG3 trended on twitter the other day
>black character who was originally a brat with a vendetta
>fans didn't like it and had to be rewritten
>now he's too boring and has barely any fans
>the rewrite ended up costing him content because it happened late in development
>fans call the studio racist and attack fans of the other guys because they're white boys with more content
>they ignore that the basic girl is the one who gets dev privilege and shit talk other female fans instead
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>>1893375This is ridiculous
No. 1893381
>>1893308kenjaku's boring too…i can't even recall what his deal was. i stopped reading at the start of the culling game arc btw.
>it really damaged a lot of the more intriguing parts of the seriesyeah i wanted a LOT more of maki and mai and how fucked up the jujutsu world was. it's dumb of me to go into a shonen and expect deep character analysis though so whatever
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Americans and westernized people really be like(derailing)
No. 1893536
>>1893362Sorry anon for spoiling! If it helps, for the most part it's just a big fight/tournament arc against essentially randos and curses.
>>1893381Oh I agree Kenjaku is dull as well, he's just more of a presence in the story than Geto kek. His deal has been elaborated on and it's… something. JJK is frustrating because its pre-current arc structure was good and could have allowed for better exploration of stuff like the world and side characters while still being within the bounds of a battle shounen, but the current arc railroads everything too hard chasing the finish line (I assume that's what its doing, anyway).
No. 1893733
>>1893375i mean, at this point with all the additions, its fine to complain that wyll has less content. he literally has around 8 hours of content, while most of the other origin characters have around 11-12 hours of content. they are continuously updating the game with new scenes and dialogue, giving wyll a bit of special attention to bring him up to par with the rest would be fine imo.
i don't think he is as boring as people say, either. maybe overshadowed by the bomb-in-chest suicide baiter and vampire-elf, but i do love his whole fantasy-prince thing he has going on, and a lot of what makes him interesting- his struggle with his appearance, being cast out of his home by his father, staying true and righteous despite his patrons influence or other factors.. it is more brushed over than the rest of the cast, including where his own quest is just used to add more backstory for the emperor. he is the only character who doesn't even get to make his big story decision for himself now, since they gave lae'zel the ability but not him.
i'm not saying its racism, honestly i do think a lot of it was time constraints, but i think it would be nice if larian did now his fans that they cared and were working on him, but his fans are nowhere near as bad as some of the others in the fandom imo.
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>>1893378Not an ounce of masculinity in her it’s embarrassing
No. 1894011
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I have posted this once before, but are there any fandoms where there is genuinely little infighting between its major groups, specifically its male and female sides?
The Transformers fandom is the only example I can think of, because other than the young boys for whom the series is primarily made and marketed, the active fanbase of this series is split between mostly adult male toy collectors and adult female shippers. Transformers has had female fans making yaoi of it since the original G1, some are self-inserters though. What's really fascinating is that there is very little conflict or infighting between these two groups. Men are more focused on collecting toys than characters or lore, while female fans aren't interested in owning every color variant of G1 Megatron and care more about the characters and consistent relationship dynamics. The first cons were organized by mostly women (one infamous con being organized by a snake handler named Raksha who believed that the Deceptions were an oppressed minority fighting against injustice and was very adamant about her HC), but I wish more fandoms were like this, where the two parties could just get along and not interfere with each other's fields of interest.
No. 1894065
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Last thread I posted how Honkai star rail has this character which they are trying to present as a gypsy and twitter zoomers think it's super woke. I pointed out the bullshit and said sigonians = cigani = gypsy, a slur
In the meanwhile, the "translator" got corrected and now zoomers have been educated by some roma content creator, cancellation incoming lol
https://twitter.com/sunsethollylock/status/1756744169555460587?t=duZU-X4CQ5__kiYkGkQKgw&s=19 No. 1894066
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>>1894031honestly the saddest thing is that the reboot could have been amazing if it didnt evolve the post 2016 american politics shit. The animation was honestly excellent and I loved it a lot, the rest? ugh… The post 2018 twitter kiddie fandom has also been pestering japanese westaboos who ship the turtles or lewds them because ''they are teengers and brothers!111!!'' they are turtles cunt shut up
No. 1894073
>>1894066I swear 2016 was the end of so much. Fandom discourse got worse, then the pandemic, and suddenly all the kids who were teens back then are now in their 20s, growing up terminally online. Everyone is an enby, and trannies and race politics are everywhere in the west.
We cant have anything.
Also, i used to watch the og show in the 90s and the turtles have been shipped forever. Mikey and Ralph were a hugely popular ship in the early 2000s No. 1894076
>>1894065My favorite part of the fall out from this is how people are saying that a character can't be actually mean or
problematic. Like they can commit many a crime and kill people offscreen, but god forbid they aren't accepting of everyone or support trans rights. Also I don't think Aventurine is supposed to be good rep, he's supposed to be hatecrimed essentially to show of the people doing so are dicks/ignorant/not very good people.
It's just so endlessly fascinating to me. I don't mind people headcanoning whatever, but when they talk about it being unacceptable to be a bad person in canon is when it gets bothersome.
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>>1894073i feel bad for the westaboos that are getting targetted, they are the backbone of the fandom and dont deserve the harassment from spergy american fat pronoun haver teens
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>>1894079japanese turtlefujos are honestly amazing, westoids make such horrid fanart but westaboos make the cutest most adorable and cool fanart i have ever seen. I wish they would hire them to draw the comics rather than the troon that tried to make his female turtle oc a thing.
No. 1894084
>>1894076It's more funny to me that he's a white boy with blonde hair, but being white is bad on twitter so they're saying he's a roma, but then they get hit from the other side with "that's whitewashing"
Endless pot of shitstirring
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>>1894066I got into the 2012 series because I had a crush on this edgelord. I'm being full judgery but if you are attracted to the Turtles themselves, you have issue.
No. 1894106
>>1894078So do I. I grew up in the late 90s/early 2000s fandom and shit was so different. You really could do/write/draw whatever you want. No one would cancel you or call you
problematic. It's all so exhausting. People were a lot more open about shipping and no one cares if you didnt like their ship. You just moved on. The western wokie pronoun gang are the saddest bitches, and they do it to themselves.
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Just a reminder that if you see people arguing over petty, irrelevant shit online about series or video games they don't like, they're most likely thinking like pic related.
No. 1894115
>>1894114its hilarious because they always like
problematic stuff themselves.
No. 1894116
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>>1894111You're right and I support you
No. 1894123
>>1894115Most of the time they like the most heinous and degenerate garbage, while they get mad at "vanilla"
problematic stuff. These are the people who get mad at two 17 year olds fucking, but write/draw shitting in wounds while they inflate the person and fuck the wound.
No. 1894142
>>1894066>>1894073Man, that sucks to hear. I liked TMNT since I was a teenager, I watched both the 80s and 00s shows and some of the movies. I wanted to get into the new cartoons but I won't touch the fandoms if I do.
>>1894106People getting
triggered over turtle shipping makes me kek because I came out of the 2007 movie shipping it and found a wealth of content online. I miss able being to like "
problematic" (or even things that are normal but "spicy") ships in high school without adding a mile-long disclaimer that I don't condone it IRL or having to reveal my personal traumas. The worst that would happen is people would mock it, but they didn't do it for "moral" reasons.
No. 1894160
>>1894126Reread the post you're replying to.
>>1894011
>are there any fandoms where there is genuinely little infighting between its major groups, specifically its male and female sides?I personally can't think of any, honestly. After what happened with Bronies and the MLP fandom, I stayed far away from anything with two defined "sides" because both are unhinged in their own way.
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>>1894020 >>1894031 I came across this phenomenon recently,with people claiming(not HC'd) Sonic as being lack because one of his VA's was black (in the least popular adaptation of him, btw)
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>>1892917>Qatari/South-AfricanSurely they can't be that stupid. If they had done even a smidge of research, they would have known that Qatar has a track record of treating African workers as basically slaves. These workers are subjugated to horrific treat and for the women rape and sexual assault. It would be like having a character that was a product of rape during the US slavery era and presenting it as a "quirky heritage".
No. 1894196
>>1893263that's not geto, that is his body but it's being used by the main villain kenjaku
>>1893129because jjk has no interesting/relevant women and the only one is a girl that's constantly compared to a male character and is basically the spitting image of him in design and background and powers
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>>1894176Reminded me of this exchange, why are moids like this. This is the same as comments on videos of women pranking their boyfriends or annoying them going "equal rights, equal fights". Male characters getting this treatment still feels relatively new while female characters have been pointlessly objectified since the beginning of time. I can only hope it keeps escalating with males, there should be at least a few decades of male objectification before anyone can start talking about equal treatment kek
>>1894188You are so fucked.
No. 1894219
>>1894206>why are moids like thisThey think everything is about them. For all they know the guys in the screenshots are quoting someone who doesn't even care or think about female characters being objectified in video games but they keep assuming a bunch of shit about everyone they interact with all the time. They think they're poor little
victims because some stories have characters who look ugly or plain. I don't like that so I avoid these manga or video games or series and move on instead of posting like 80,000 tweets about it in the span of 2 years.
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>>1894218>>1894226I guess it's for some people, but it's just beyond cringe for me, I can't even laugh it, I just can't imagine how anyone takes it seriously. a man dressed in a clown suit is genuinely more attractive.
(derailing) No. 1894230
>>1894175I don't have a problem if this was people's
headcanon for a human form but unlike Knuckles, Sonic isn't really modeled to "be" anything but a cartoon. I figured he would probably be Japanese like his creator if anything.
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>>1894334Its just women being horny its not that deep. The japanese fans also depict him as that.
(wrong thread for pic dumps of your husbando) No. 1894375
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>>1894369he's so cute, sorry to samefag
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>>1894334>>1894273Kek I'm also a REfag and I have met female fans who have never played a RE game but still thirst over Leon. Which is fine because I get it. He's cute and I loved the guy since the original RE:4 but I think it's kinda retarded to not at least try to play the game(s). Even just for a little bit because they're so fun. Honestly it's tough when your faves get popular and then proceed to attract the most insufferable people you could ever imagine because it just happens to be flavor of the month.
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>>1894507It's referencing the fan art of a French Algerian, depicting Dragon Ball Z Characters as Algerians.
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>>1892972>the kpop stan twitter reaction memeKEK
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I'm losing my fucking shit over this retarded article costing 45 FUCKING DOLLARS
and then to read 10 other articles from whatever this crappy site it it's over 400 FUCKING DOLLARS.
Seriously this is some twitter thread shit, why is it 45 bucks?!
No. 1894586
>>1894585Only know this one and the Robotnik piss scene that everyone knows
nonnie.
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>>1894584I honestly don't think most radfems outside of lolcow even know what a fujoshi is.
>>1894587Shut the fuck up Paki chan.
No. 1894590
>>1894369>>1894375I wasn't really talking just about Leon and RE. I meant it in a general sense. I know both artists that you posted and they actually played the game and know the character, those were not what I was referring to.
>>1894413I stumbled into some tumblrinas who said only privileged people could play the game because it's expensive or whatever, so it's mean and wrong to say they aren't fans. I don't personally get it, but if they aren't spamming dumb takes, ugly fanart or arguing with people over nothing, then I don't care, be free, be horny.
I do follow some small cows in the RE fandom, but I don't post them because some don't have that many followers, but it's so funny to see their schizo takes and weird fights kek. RE always had some weird people in the fandom tbh. No. 1894614
>>1894552No, a lot of people have this headcanon regardless of this comic. Same with a bunch of Shonen Jump rivals, like that one taller guy in Captain Tsubasa who works after school because of his dead father or something
his name is Marc in the French localization or with Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho.
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>all this Leon talk
don't make me post it(wrong thread for pic dumps of your husbando too)
No. 1894658
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Lord in heaven I'm so fucking sick of retarded normies with absolutely no media literacy to speak of trying to have a say in media portraying difficult themes to the point it's clear they just read the back cover and cherrypicked parts and made their judgment based on those. This book was so relatable to me as a lesbian and it didn't pull any punches describing the loneliness and emotional issues caused by childhood trauma, and the """incest fantasies""" this dumbass is talking about were the main character describing how her inner child yearns to be held by a mother due to being emotionally neglected and that's why she's been so attached to the idea of an older woman pampering her. Sorry that lesbians, like any woman, have gender-related trauma and can have mental issues they find difficult to sort through and they aren't just your polilez sisterhood sweeties kissing and holding hands. It's not a fucking yuri manga, it's an autobiographical story.
No. 1894662
>>1894658God this is so retarded, you can tell these types of people only read YA and decide if a book is 'good' or not based on how many
problematic tropes it has.
It's on par with complaining that it 'glamorizes alcoholism' when she discusses her liver issue later in the series.
No. 1894663
>>1894658"Oh no! My precious
yuri manga (involvingrealpeoplebutI'mgoingtoignorethat) doesn't feature my hyperfeminine infantile
moe moe kyun kyun desu characters where they blush when their hands are held! Oh nooooooo!"
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>>1894661I'M IN DESPAIR!
FUJOSHIS HAVE LEFT ME IN DESPAIR!
No. 1894674
>>1892917Are their multiethnic background going to contribute to their characters and how they're perceived by the world and how they perceive it back or are they just window dressing?
Look, really really really mixed backgrounds like these are actually possible (it's a big world out there), and people born to them can have really unique experiences involving discrimination and fetishization etcetera etcetera that someone born from only one ethnic background won't ever see.
It's very frustrating when these virtue signally projects just slap a flag or two without taking on account personal experiences like that. And with the the amount of flags in there, are they really going to portray those cultures accurately like they want to?
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>>1894678It's pakichan ignore her
No. 1894694
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https://www.fujoshi.info/anti-fujoshiGod this page is so hilarious to read as a radfem fujo. The whole 'ANTI FUJOS ARE ALL TERFS' meme feels like such a cope to me, I find it pretty hard to believe pakichan is that active outside of the farms kek. The vast majority of 'anti fujoshis' are just a bunch of fakebois projecting really really hard on how 't-they're totally not a girl anymore guys! Yaoi is fetishizing m-me!'
>>1894691Kills their boners and makes them seethe because of that.
No. 1894699
>>1894684nta but If you read any media that portrays characters experiencing issues such as childbirth and the way their bodies respond, bringing them closer to women's functions, then you are not reading about men getting hurt.
>>1894691don't bother, they live in a delusion where they aren't on the same side as male coomers, Hannah Berrelli talked about this as well, with regards to feminists who supported "feminist BDSM" but at the end of the day, they were on the side as the most degrading BDSM pornographers when it came to any sort of legislation against pornography
>>1894694see what I mean, this retard genuinely cannot accept the fact that majority of "TERFs" think yaoi is just something aydens indulge themselves in.
(derailing) No. 1894702
>>1894699Isn't thinking mpreg is the only thing that exists a bit brainrotted?
What bl are you looking at?
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A reminder to everyone(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1894711
>>1894691>>1894698Jesus, do you ever see male yurifags screech to their kind with "Oh no bros! Stop enjoying
yuri! We're not supposed to sexualize lesbians, they're human beings who deserve our respect! Stop masturbating to them!"?
Women should stop being ashamed of finding gay porn arousing. Ever. It will literally never in a million years hurt gay men the same way straight men hurt gay women.
No. 1894718
>>1894670>>1894690>doing exactly what the sperg in the screencap is doing i.e. Repeating hearsay and gossip based on bits taken out of context and 2ch incels nonetheless. And even if we assume it's all true and she did have a ABDL fetish, then what about it? It doesn't make the overall story (which doesn't mention anything about an ABDL fetish in any of the books) about the loneliness and rejection a mentally ill lesbian woman experiences any less lesbian. You can't just pick and choose which stories you like the best and hand them the lesbian license as a reward for not being
problematic. Yes, she's mentally ill for being neglected, molested and feeling rejected for not adhering to the strict female mold (which is even more rigid in Japan) and her mental illness is showing through her fixations and alcoholism. It is what it is. It's a poignant story a lot of lesbians have found relatable so any 19-year old twitter polilez radfem going "ummmm do you even realize how creepy she's being like
yikes?????" doesn't change that.
(infighting) No. 1894725
>>1894723Same. I'm guessing it's because recently there's been a lot of tradthots posting here (for some reason) and they automatically assume everyone has immense christian guilt and is saving themselves for their husband or actively is giving millions of dollars to pornhub on a regular basis.
It's honestly just their madonna whore complex going nuts.
(derailing) No. 1894756
>>1894662Agreed kek these retards can't deal with "
problematic" shit at all. I just wonder why all modern book readers are so fucking lame. They would not survive reading any book published before 2010, uniroinic satanic panic type of shit. These are the same people who defend trannies and fags with their lives too btw. Oh how dare a lesbian not be cutesy and "uwu" and kawaii cottagecore nya nya desuuuu. These people literally think two women holding hands while posing for an Instagram picture equals being a lesbian. Yeah I don't personally like that this girl ended up at a brothel hooking up with a prostitute but c'est la vie. And I don't have mommy issues. And yet the rest of it was relatable and I enjoyed it. Let women be unhinged and troubled I say. I sometimes even prefer when stupid retards portray same sex attracted women as fat masculine short haired "dykes" because at least that stereotype doesn't make me go insane over the simplification and kawaiification of dating women, don't even get me started on the ones that do that shit for male attention. Fuck this bullshit. Butch women and tomboys FTW!
No. 1894765
>>1894756>These are the same people who defend trannies and fags with their lives too btw.The OP in the tweet here
>>1894658 is actually a self-identified radfem, kek. That goes to show you how not all can be pinned on the libfem boogeyman, new generation radfems have disturbingly conservative views. But I digress.
No. 1894774
>>1894770Unfortunately yes Disney adults ruined everything for everyone else because of how huge and autism inducing that company is.
Unrelated and please don't take it personal but I really don't like when anons shorten "young adult fiction" to just "YA" because for me YA will always mean Yahoo Answers
No. 1894794
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>>1894694What's incredible about this website is that it's really not about the disproportionate hate fujoshi/slash fans have been getting since the dawn of time for being weird women who like weird romance, it's actually about ~evil transphobia and femmephobia!!~ the ~struggles~ of poor fudanshi. It's hilarious to see they think completely sane and impartial statements like "trans mlems are just fujos in denial" are comparable to the violence and death threats their PC ilk send regularly
… they can't go one second without sniffing their own farts because they know their flimsy identity only exists through constant validation and weak mantras. And they absolutely also know that liking yaoi is a female XX woman trait: their whole website exists to keep their copium levels high because even the troon mlems around them know they're nothing more than delusional TIF fujos who spiraled into troondom also thanks to yaoi. Talking about le evil terves is just a smokescreen because hyperonline terves dgaf about yaoi and some even like it because it makes moids seethe.
So this cringe website can't even set out to do what's on its label: instead of defending weird nerd women with cringe hobbies it'd rather be another virtue signaling snoozefest about how the mlems and those 10 gay men who read yaoi are the most oppressed of all and how trans boi mlems are heckin
valid for liking something tailor made for man-hating women.
Seeing it take an academic approach just makes it milkier, too.
No. 1894796
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>>1894774>>1894770>>1894790You can blame lizard brain capitalism logic. Frozen made over a billion dollars and had a twist villain, as well as broader themes about emotions. so for the rest of the decade, all disney movies were filled with nothing but twist villains and focused on emotions, in an attempt to replicate its success. they were fine, but in my opinion, the last truly great classic Disney movie was Moana. Disney then released a bunch of mediocre (but financially successful) sequels and then came Encanto. Regardless of how you feel about it, Encanto was really financially successful and focused on broader themes of "generational trauma". As a result, every Disney/Pixar movie afterwards has been focused on this. Luckily, they all failed financially, so it seems this trend will die faster than the twist villain trend.
No. 1894807
>>1894658both this tweet and post are typical posts you'd find on lc, i remember the lez thread on /g/ both licking her ass and also talking mad shit about her for transitioning and potientially being into men so she's not worth the idolatry to begin with when there are well adjusted women drawing lesbian content that arent drawing themselves as neotentic bobbleheaded lolis and pissing themselves in front of boys. it is a bit weird to me that anons defend this mangaka and then gleefully cancel anyone else for the same thing tbh but maybe they just saw it reccommended on radblr without reading her entire work and dont realize the full cow potential of the author because they're starved for content.
>>1894763kek an anon in the authorcow thread was recently seething that amy dunne was an unrepentant villain, it's spreading
No. 1894834
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>>1894584why do these people take their chinese cartoons so damn seriously. how hard is it to keep it on twitter? i would want to kill myself if i was some normie professor and had to read this word salad entirely KEK she has another chronically online article too about proshipping and my university paid for it (picrel)
No. 1894848
>>1894834This is a goldmine.
Personally I think fandom is an interesting subject to study but she's clearly an Aiden with an agenda (validating her totes gay man mlem identity) so it can't be an impartial look from an outsider just interested in the development of online communities.
If she's not trans and she's just caping for them and that'd be even more embarrassing.
No. 1894850
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>>1894839KEK i’m dying laughing at this person calling people fascist over shotacon and then linking the article. if you check the qrts they did it multiple times. imagine smugly linking an entire article to justify your anime porn
No. 1894871
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>>1894691how young are you? men always seethed at yaoi because they hate seeing their favourite male characters taking dick, ofcourse men are totally fine with drawing disgusting fetish shit of female characters but dont you dare do the same to their ''literally me''
No. 1894874
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>>1894691idk how but honestly it should. but in all seriousness as other anons have said itt its because ppl (mostly oversensitive tifs who think everything is about them) think its fetishising homosexual men as though any woman would care about two pronoun-parading pansies with neon blue hair and the worst fashion sense ever kek
No. 1894876
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>>1894871>>1894874Can we please put this to rest already, we have four other threads about arguing over this, I don't know har wanna about how "x1 special fetish is better then other x2 fetish, or how x3 is better then the other two"
No. 1894877
>>1894876Fujoshits are the most obnoxious and spammy people on lc. They just cant help but take pakichan’s bait every time and start screeching up and down every thread about how they’re akshully
victims.
No. 1894884
>>1894691It literally doesn't do anything to moids because moids are beings that depend on their dicks and ass to exist, if anything, yaoi makes them want to be gay or bi, which means you get to eliminate another pornsick moid from the dating pool of a few women.
Moid sexuality is so retarded that if you showed a few moids some pictures of holes that induce trypophobia, and not even say anything, just post them near anime girls or the picture of a regular woman, and after a while they will create a trypopho-chan waifu that's full of holes and moids will want to fuck random holes on the floor.
The moral of this story is that no one needs to give a fuck about what moids think or feel, they don't give a fuck about what we think or feel anyways, they've shown us what they think about porn for decades.
So why is it evil for some women to think that, idk, Naruto and Sasuke look hot kissing? Why is it pornsick to read a retarded manga about some guy that falls in love with another guy? If anyone brings back omegaverse shit, you all have to remember that lots of those manga focus on the plot of why the fuck omegaversr even exists and on the feelings of the characters about their positions, comparing that to your average porn manga with anime girls in skimpy clothes that doesn't even have a plot is retarded.
(derailing/infighting) No. 1894899
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>>1894885Samefag forgot to attach picrel
No. 1894905
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>>1894902like anon, please. If you are okay with her messy cowish life then just accept she's a super weirdo into diapers. It's not like people are making the connection of a random cow with no ties to ABDL to a loli photoshoot out of thin air, she has openly posted about her fucking fetish.
No. 1894912
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also keking at
>I really don't see someone suffering of severe anxiety regarding her body doing something like that.
meanwhile she takes photoshoots like this. The loli dipare model also has her exact same hairstyle.
No. 1894930
>>1892964They think
POC especially black women as the markers of deviance against white America. It’s a common trope I’ve been seeing since 2020 and it makes me so sick and sad. That’s why there’s been a big push for hyperfemininity in black female spaces as a way of counteracting this liberal bias
No. 1894969
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I've got a rant to make, I can't stand how Japanese isekais have twisted elves into nothing but a porn genre. They're entirely reduced to coom clichés, with busty women getting raped by orcs or Japanese/korean male self inserts, while the men are depicted as weak and feminine, existing only to be humiliated or portrayed as ultra-feminine femboys resembling prepubescent children. And this coom fueled portrayal has now infiltrated Western depictions, not just with elves either, but with any fae or otherworldly pre-human civilizational creature. It's infuriating and only strengthens my belief that we need moralism to come back full force.
No. 1894991
>>1894977Remember when moids didn't give a fuck about link and he was only for women? I remember, good times. Now all we have is a bunch of stupid ass porn with retarded cuckold scenarios and link looking like a woman with a mask of link slapped on her face.
I want to go back to the time in which I could just enjoy looking at fanart of link being heroic and cool, it took me quite a while to curate my pinterest so it didn't show me any retarded ass pictures of link with a woman's body.
I think this whole sissification of characters beloved by women is a way for moids to yet again terrorize us and try to make us stop liking what we like because moids go "hurr durrr this character is for moids"
No. 1895002
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>>1894970I don't take Gillian Flynn seriously after reading her other works.
No. 1895086
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>>1894991>>1895001It's part of a broader trend that I believe is happening. As men get fatter, uglier, and more porn addicted and degenerate, they no longer see themselves as young male heroes or even the macho action types. Instead, they devolve into self-inserting as ogres, orcs, goblins, and in human world stories, they become the 'ugly bastards' and derive pleasure from being objects of disgust. They dream of violating both the knight and the princess, not out of genuine attraction, but as a form of misogynistic hatred and contempt.
vaush's recent "clarification" about his porn fetishes, confirmed this for me.
No. 1895109
>>1894969Can you explain what you even consider to be moralism and what that would look like? Most discourse already boils down to "This makes me uncomfortable because it deals with something that's bad, that means you are a bad person and should delete your account". How is moralism supposed to be enforced in your opinion?
Coomers aren't the average person anyway, if you talk to any normal person they won't immediately think of porn when you ask them about elves. It's your fault for being so deep in weebshit or generally looking into shit you know you won't like kek and it's not like western depictions of elves weren't also fueled by coom, just in a way that's different from the anime shit and therefore easier for you to cope with. Dungeon Meshi has non-sexualized elves but anons managed to find issues with that as well, it's almost like you can always find something to complain about if you're looking for it
No. 1895117
>>1894991Maybe it's just the way I run into Link content, but most of the time when I see art of him drawn overly feminine/female in anatomy it's by female fans (to be fair they're also often tifs and therefore insane, so). He was already a smooth anime boy to begin with, but that gerudo outfit seems to have really activated some neurons when it comes to wanting to see him depicted as more feminine or even as a tif. I don't want to start the self-insert uke debate again, but that is clearly a motivator too when other characters are involved, with a very 'safe' and acceptable form of crossdressing also probably being part of the appeal. I'm not saying the bastardisation of Link is totes women's fault or anything, just that it might feel inescapable because both 'sides' are doing it, in differing ways.
Again, I don't actively look for Link content so I haven't seen much gross coom art by moids- I'm sure there's a lot and that it's gross, but what can you expect of terminal losers so pornsick they're practically prison gay and trying to justify their interests as being anything but by making pretty men convincingly female and therefore okay?
No. 1895130
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>>1895117>>1895126I think it's bad a combination of porn-sickness and stan twitter humor, where they can't express their attraction in a regular way and have to express it in a way a terminally online gay men would, so that's why there's been a trend of calling men's pectoral boobs, but the thing is, there are genuinely some women who are now convinced that men's chest muscles behave exactly like women's breasts.
No. 1895175
>>1895172>you can’t talk about this in case it offends the local schizo Not even part of this conversation, but just wanna say, that’s pretty much how the board is now, and why is largely sucks. Mods side with the rabid schizos now and everyone else who is normal and tells them to fuck off gets banned for it.
I’m out.
No. 1895217
>>1895130If they weren't old then people would say "you just like them because you want to self insert".
Though they'll do that regardless, at least men can't twist it.
No. 1895232
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>>1894584>this is what the long march through the institutions looks likequaking in my boots rn
>>1894694but I get it, she's trying to stop a personal grievance (eastern yaoi hate) from happening in her in-groups by conflating it with the greatest societal taboo there (twanspwobia). This is it, this is what academia was made for.
>>1894590>only privileged people could play the game because it's expensive>what is emulationlol, i'm at risk of sounding like a boomer, but progressive rhetoric is often used to justify laziness, entitlement, smearing and shutting down dissent, etc., and using it to defend being a secondary has GOT to be the peak of this
No. 1895245
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>>1895238I honestly think he has a baby face in most cutscenes, when he's not frowning. He starts the game when he's 28yo and his face looks a little bit different, his hair is a also a little bit shorter and then there's a timeskip. He's 15yo in some flashbacks and looks exactly like his mother, just not blond. I think he looks a lot better than Noctis after the timeskip in FF15. It's hard finding good pics online to show what I mean because of webm files or whatever, my god I hate that shit.
No. 1895251
>>1894969In fairness, I see a lot of the time people take the fan art to be completely accurate and avoid series alltogether when the actual elf character is just fine, if archetypical.
Its not as much sexual elf character as it is if there is an elf character, they will be sexualized.
No. 1895253
>>1895246Well yeah it's not like he ever shaves, he's on the run trying not to get assassinated in a medieval world where technology is pure garbage for plot related reasons. Maybe his deep voice and scars on his face don't help either, he has one that looks like a very pronounced nasolabial fold but only on one side. You can compare him to Dion and
Joshua after the timeskip because they're both 28yo and are more standard bishonen.
No. 1895385
>>1894334I'm the first anon you're replying to and holy fuck you're so right, you just nailed it. The same thing happened to another series I liked a lot (Persona) where the entire fanbase is a bunch of minors who played the games through YouTube or twitter threads. I think we should start gatekeeping or powerleveling more.
>>1894413 The games are so fucking good and they're missing out. Even when I was younger I never involved myself in the fanbase but I know damn well it was probably waaaay better than what it is now.
>>1894590I wonder if we know the same cows. There's like 3 REtwt cows I can think of off the top of my head. Also holy fuck why does no one know how to pirate
No. 1895410
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Be honest, have you ever been glad to see someone or a series you just dislike get cancelled? For me, this is what happened to Our Flag Means Death. The promotion made a big deal about how it's telling the real "queer POC history" of pirates and it banked itself on that. However, it had to skirt around the issues of rape, murder, and slavery. Steve Bonnet was a plantation owner(and shitty husband and father), and Blackbeard captured slaves from one salve shit and sold them to other nation. No amount of queer woobification could remove those objectively evil acts. and It would be fine if it was a fictional story that clarified it was not real, but again, that's not what the series built its entire identity on. Also, seeing Taika Waititi get cancelled for being just a degenerate fake bi made me happy to see as well.
No. 1895436
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>>1895410The only good character from OFMD aside from another Seagull named Karl.
No. 1895479
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>>1895245>>1895130During the PS2 and early PS3 era, developers faced the challenge of limited technology that couldn't achieve complete realism. To overcome this, they focused on style and gameplay, resulting in games that have aged remarkably well compared to those released in recent years. The pursuit of "realism" has proven to be a massive pitfall for Western developers, as it leads to games that are more expensive and time-consuming to create, but ultimately have bland and restrictive gameplay.
No. 1895494
>>1895483This is my personal taste but I'm not interested in playing it. I'm not fond of RPGs, and I just really dislike the "faux-fantasy" genre. You know, that vague medieval fantasy setting that has entered the cultural zeitgeist, where everything exists at once and so nothing actually feels real.
Also, I'm not really much of a gamer (I barely play games these days). It's just that if I don't like something, I don't play it. It's as simple as that. I'm not even that great with tech stuff. It's just that I can see basic styles and point out objective facts that are inherently gonna crash and burn.
No. 1895519
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>>1895502This is some very low effort bait, the game has been extensively covered by gaming related media outlets and personalities.
Anyway, posting funny pic
No. 1895563
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I'm honestly so happy that she's going to host the Crunchyroll anime awards this year. Make all the weeaboo virgin male incels seethe.
No. 1895567
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>>1895563And I hope she gets to sing WAP, the Megan's Law and hands on my knees shaking ass on my thot shit. It would be so fun to see all the seething reactions. Plus the cosplay she's going to wear is cute on her.
No. 1895590
>>1895563great, cool, more hypersexual black female representation - the
only kind we fucking get - to own the moids or whatever
No. 1895683
>>1892754>>1892711the irony…
this>>1892591 looks like FtM.
No. 1895685
>>1894796>>1895128understand that most of these movies were released when theaters were closed during the pandemic, all of the movies released in this time were massive flops. i like most of these movies kek but the generational trauma term was getting tiring around turning red's release, i won't mind if that theme was never touched again. im a western animation fag but i enjoy when disney loses money especially when they make actual garbage like wish.
>>1895410this show reeks of cringe god i fucking hate pirates
>>1895479not a gamer but i reaaaally dislike most hyperrealistic "you can even count their pores" games, theyre gonna age so bad and all look the same. what happened to creative art styles?
No. 1895690
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What happened to creating fics/art and other fanwork contributions out of pure love for a series? Why does everything have to be about money and worshipping other fans in modern fandoms? I obviously dont think their creations should be used for AI but thats another conversation entirely, I’ve just noticed that fandoms have shifted heavily into “RESPEKT YOUR FIC WRITERS!!! SIGN UP TO MY PATREON!!!1” in the last decade or so when back in the day you’d have people casually drop 300k fics out of pure autistic love and hyperfixation for a ship.
No. 1895723
>>1895690I do get some of the frustration (don't agree on the 'we should get paid' part– fic comms are one thing, but a patreon for fic or whatever feels against the spirit of the whole thing kek), as there is a problem in general with a lack of interaction these days. It's not even about praise, just that if you're going to write a fic out of love and autism, you often want to talk about and share that autism with other fans in the comments. Same goes for art, even if what you post performs well, there's a lack of that sense of community and discussion that was more prominent in the 2000s and earlier 2010s.
There's no need to be entitled about it, but yeah, it is sometimes disheartening to be shouting into the void in a space like fandom, where the whole point is enjoying a thing as a group– likes and sharing is nice and all, but sometimes you would rather more substantial interaction or discussion.
(though, there's also a flip-side of shitty interaction 'cause some people are just socially inept and retarded kek)
No. 1895855
>>1895761This, the only fic writers I've seen who are good at writing on commission (haven't run into any patreon-havers in the fandoms I'm in, and only a couple kofi ones) are ones who are at a skill and quality level that they could probably go into a field that requires that kind of writing if they wanted to anyway (eg TV/tie-in novels/anything that's pre-established and requires consistent theming and feel, etc). These authors also tend to only take comms that suit their tastes as well because they're smart enough to know that taking on something that doesn't won't come out to their usual standards or be draining to work on. They're also popular or have a dedicated readership that knows what to expect of their fic, similar to readers familiar with or able to read reviews of published authors. Comms are still hard to get anyway, since with most fanfic you can just wait around and someone will probably end up writing it for free just because what's wanted is generic enough, so fic commissions tend to be either more specific requests or just a desire for more from the one author.
(also, a lot of artists shouldn't be expecting/demanding payment for their efforts anyway, as they're often asking too early skill-wise or haven't built up enough of a following to even have a market that isn't just cheap opportunists or passing children, whether they post fanart or not)
Somewhat similar topic, but does anyone else feel like trades and interesting fic challenges have kind of died out? Like, people still do ship/character weeks and kink/other-tober prompt challenges, but what happened to big bangs and meme fills (though I guess the answer to that is stuff like kinkmemes dying out) and other fun shit?
No. 1895885
>>1895690>rip our fucking shit>ai >"ripping anything"i really really
really hate that these people can't sit down and actually research how the tech works. so lame and stupid
No. 1895969
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>>1895958Funny how you picked the character most popular with women instead of the neckbeard or the gay bear. Cope, seethe, dilate.
No. 1895995
>>1895690This is more of a direct response to the image then your post but, I can answer this.
I'm the type of person that does commission art, including of ships I like. There's 2 main reasons I've yet to commissions any fics. First one, is that quite frankly most fanfic writers aren't worth it. I have to dig through countless of pages to find something that isn't incredibly OOC and I hate investing time into a 400k fic only for it to never pay off. So I read mostly one shots because some bad writing is easier to deal with when it's short. It's just hard to trust someone will write something the way you like it, since it's much more personal then 'draw this character'.
Second reason is that paying someone for a smut fic is something I really don't want attached to my name by payment. Somehow I don't feel the same way about smut art commissions but I digress.
No. 1896007
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>>1895410not like Pirates romanticization doesn't happen in the west either.
No. 1896018
>>1894658>why can't lesbians have manga where blah blahThis kind of attitude is so baffling to me. It's the same as people who say shit like "When will we get good fanart of this character?". Like, you're not "getting" anything. Someone made something and you can choose to look at it. This entitlement is crazy and it's one of the reasons fandom spaces feel so hollow. There are "content creators" who are treated like machines that just pump out stuff to look at and regular fans that take it all in and still feel the need to act like they are entitled to more or to dogpile those who create in a way they think is wrong.
>>1895855>but does anyone else feel like trades and interesting fic challenges have kind of died out?There's just no one doing stuff for the sake of it anymore. If you have the time you might as well work on your own stuff because that will get more attention/money
No. 1896073
>>1895942Pretty much this. the internet has gotten too centralized. Fandoms are no longer compromised of nerds who truly love a show/game/book and built a community, if something blew up on tiktok or gains traction in some other way you get a hoard of FOMO fans just riding the wave and regurgitating memes without actually fully engaging with the material.
The other day I saw some fanartist post a sketch and said the full thing is in her patreon, she wasnt even a particularly popular or “skilled” artist. Everyone is just trying to make money and build a bootlicking community around them nowadays.
No. 1896118
>>1896073I'm really starting to hate Patreon after all the good femgaze smut got pay-walled. Once a hobby becomes a job, an artist regards their peers as rival companies rather than contemporaries, like it's a big race to net the most fame and fortune in under a month. No one cares. yet it's life and death with those people. AI is bad for a slew of reasons, but taking your "job," especially a hobby, is quite frankly retarded. I get that the job market right now is fucked beyond all belief, but can it rest? Can't one find more joy in the craft than thinking of getting food on the table?
Back then, fandom artists would draw away in their basements, expressing love of anime, comics, cartoons, and video games without a care in the world. I'm seeing more kid artists dive straight to Kofi and Patreon because flipping burgers had grown boring these days. Eighteen year olds are either into only fans or drawing smut of their favorite bl pairings but one of them got a vagina cuz muh diversity. I wanna know how slavic and eastern artist weathered for so long, because us american pigs can never get it in their heads that snooping, especially harassment, is a time waster best spent on productivity.
No. 1896147
>>1896073The internet becoming mainstream is the worst thing to ever happen. There is no such thing as niche fandoms anymore or memes, or board culture. So many people post on lolcow and have no idea what PT even stands for.
I've tried having conversations about old videogames I love in the 90s/early 2000s era and most people have either never heard of it or just watch a Lets play online. No, I dont know the names of any of these youtubers or vtubers. It feels like there is too much info at once and people latch on, gather as much info as their peabrains can handle and leave. No one is truly sticking around in a fandom.
Does anyone even talk about PALworld anymore? No, because people have the attention span of 2 months tops now. It's so odd to me.
No. 1896191
>>1895942Yes, this. I used to think it was pretty stupid to gatekeep fandoms, but I've seen what it does to just open up to anyone. I remember using forums and they were great containment zones to the various aspects of it. You had specific places to talk about different parts of the media and you had to adhere to the etiquette and lingo of each space. Nobody was truly kept away from the fandoms, they were just directed to make their own niche places for different purposes. Just look at how twitter feed is an solid continuous scroll of every post without filtering. Back then we had different websites, a personal blog to post your thoughts, a gallery to post your work, a separate one to post your nsfw and so on, I even remember Japanese artists creating different accounts for each fandom they were part of. I understand it was a hassle to hop in a bunch of different places and check every single one of them, which made some interactions slower than the ones we have now, it wasn't a perfect situation. Still, I would take that back from what we got.
No. 1896233
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>>1895232I found the post, it was funnier than I remembered.
>>1895385I bet we know the some of the same cows, for some reason twitter shoves them into your feed if you like RE. I am not into shipping, but I don't hate it, either way it's impossible to be in a fandom and avoid the ships discussions, they became most of the content for every fandom I see. Though every ship has their own cows, Aeon takes the cake. They remind me of Cloti fans who self insert as Tifa. Serennedy and metal tango is filled with trans fanart of the characters, but there is this one person who is obsessed with the idea of tif fat Krauser. Then there is this artist who draws Leon with her furry ocs and for a while she only drew him as a fat donut eating cop, that was something. The last twitter cows I can think of are the Ethan fans. It takes something special to be obsessed with the guy that until the last village dlc had no face and ship it with characters he barely interacts, if at all.
Top tumblr poster from picrel is my favorite. She is obsessed with Leon and her whole tumblr is her answering asks like "do you think Leon would hear smashing pumpkins?". I suspected she sent most of these asks to herself, but I checked some of her followers and now I'm not so sure.
No. 1896238
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why do so many girls get so intensely mad about yumejoshi? no matter where you go, you get flooded by how self insert stuff is cringe, horrible, badly written, an insult to whatever franchise
No. 1896303
>>1895479I agree with your post and I don't want to derail the thread into a game discussion, but I also think games like silent hill were the best of that time, ps2 and ps3 era had atrocious looking games that people gloss over. I get ptsd from the cheap movie adaptations for ps2 I've played and they did not age well by any means. What silent hill had was a good art direction and very talented people involved. I agree the mindless pursuit gamedevs had with realistic graphics was part of the reason some recent games look bad, I remember their obsession over graphics for every single game release and how "graphics" became a rating category for the game ratings and ofc their mindless thought realism=better, without taking in consideration the art direction. Take silent hill as an example, it didn't turn to shit just because of that. Konami disbanded Team Silent who was the group responsible for the first 4 games and to this day, they are the best ones. Unsurprisingly every silent hill after that not only looked like shit but lost all the cool storytelling. Silent hill wasn't known for it's gameplay, but for the story and the ambience. The new games relied on snippets of the first 4 games to exist, they were soulless copies. Look at silent hill origins that came years after silent hill 3 and 4 and how much worse it looks. A decent art direction will look good in any technology and style imo, but companies think "graphics" will sell their games, and unfortunately it does, the average player looks awed by graphics and automatically think the gameplay quality is equivalent, which isn't true. We see plenty of indie games with basic graphics but way better gameplays and stories and people have been genuinely getting more invested in them. While I agree the realism pursuit was part of the reason, I also think the way the companies handled their creative teams was also an issue, it wasn't just konami, many other big companies repeated these same mistakes.
No. 1896310
>>1896073>>1896187You are close but also wrong. When it comes to EN-speaking fandom artists, there's no path to turning that passion into a job. If you're in SEA, you can totally use that skill of drawing fanart into making it a job. For example, Fate Grand Order has many artists drawing for the game who were once just simple fans drawing fanart. That's not a thing in the west. It basically does not happen. So if you want to survive from your art, a mix of patreon and commissions is your best bet. Once you have a few hundred patreons giving you $5 a month, you're mostly good. Keep in mind that just commissions is difficult if you life in a first world country. To make $2500 a month in commissions you'd need several high-paying ones, and who knows how often you can guarantee a stream of clients. That's why patreon is used so often. It's significantly safer and more steady.
>>1896149Do you have any idea how expensive tabling at a convention is? An artist isn't going to make a bet on selling niche shoujo nr 5 just in case they are 2 other fans around. One of which is going to say how much they love that series and then walk away.
No. 1896324
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>>1896310there are so many people willing to pay premium price for mediocre art commissions. i don't get it.
No. 1896340
>>1896321why not?
>>1896324It's very audience dependent. I've seen artists with significantly more skill struggle to get clients. Also a comm sheet =/= actually getting commissions
No. 1896364
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>>1896342The main reason why I dislike him is because of the art style. If the BG3 had prioritized aesthetic over "realism" (which is unattainable), I might have played, but the end result is everyone looking like uncanny valley renaissance cosplayers.
No. 1896365
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>>1896310I dont know where anons are getting that japanese artists do stuff out of passion alone and completly for free. Dont they know about comiket/dlsite/fanbox?
No. 1896367
>>1896324The art might be mediocre, sure, but it's for a comic page which is both more work on the artist's part and a less common offering that potential buyers might be looking for but unable to find in their price range (120€ per page isn't much, even if you wouldn't buy it).
>>1896340>a comm sheet =/= actually getting commissionsThis too, not sure why so many people see a comm sheet and immediately assume the artist has ever even managed to sell one slot, especially to anyone outside of their friend group
No. 1896370
>>1896365Most jp artists who sell at conventions and on booth etc. only do so to cover printing costs. It's actually a feature of Japanese copyright legislation that they shouldn't be making a profit off of someone else's IP, so they skirt around this rule by only making enough to cover costs and thus not profiting.
Fanbox I am less familiar with, isn't it some sort of patreon scheme? If so it hasn't been around for a very long time, and is even more recent than patreon which to my knowledge was not something Japanese artists participated in.
No. 1896371
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>>1896324Not about pricing, some non-comic commissions take a month to complete, due taking multiple slots obviously, adding complexity of pieces, but still clients have iron patience. And also the security matter artist knows your real name. I am probably never get into commissioning.
No. 1896395
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this has 30k likes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No. 1896421
>>1896395is… this supposed to be a joke (?) about how unimaginative child character design tends to be or…?
(eg child is a mini-me of their father except they have their mother's eyes, like Harry Potter kek)
No. 1896467
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>>1896397If your first thought upon seeing this is “fetish” that says more about you than anything else. It’s a cartoon media trope.
No. 1896477
>>1896238I like honest yume much, much more than yume that pretend to be fujo.
I guess I do have a standard of knowing the character if you're going to ship them with you, while with bl there's two seperate standards of "it's for clicks" and "you should know the dynamics."
No. 1896478
>>1896459It was hyperbolic but overall the chances are significantly more slim in EN speaking communities. Also iirc a lot of those posts had people who attended art/animation colleges and the fanart in question was in their portfolio, and a lot of other posts were just one off jobs.
>>1896370Fanbox is basically patreon yes. That said, you still cannot compare it with western conventions as anyone who has sold at one can tell you any of the bigger ones can easily cost you thousands in just having the table, travel costs, and goods.
>>1896446>>1896426You two might want to look at how popular skeb has become. Clearly a lot of artists need/want to make more money even in glorious nippon where fandom is purely altruism according to this thread.
No. 1896511
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>>1896496I just haven't seen this trope as much because, based on my experience with animated shows, if the mom is a rat and the dad is a bird, then the boy children will be rats and the girl children will be birds. And if they are both the same species, the children will simply be reversed gendered palette swaps of their parents.
No. 1896519
>>1892917Sigh, I've been following the dumpsterfire of development that is validate since 2020. Take a look at its thread on the other farms, it's a fun read.
>>1892928>>1892942>>1892929>>1892934Inaya, Isabelle, Yolanda, Ashlie and Anoki are women (Anoki's route is all about how she is non binary and goes by all pronouns and totes not as straight woman. Ashlie is a e-girl streamer who's straight and her route is about finding friendship)
Catherine and Emhari are trannies and Emhari is a transbian and his route is all about how totes
valid he is despite not medically transitioning
Arihi is a pooner who overthinks about getting misgendered all the time and her beta design looked more like a girl
Yolanda is the danulmao's (the dev)
Self insert and she is a cow herself
Keaton was put as a joke because "haha see we don't hate wyppl look we even put an italian there" and when the character became a fan favorite (because there were a lot of memes and jokes and putting him on the spotlight as the butt of the joke) Dani (the dev) got butthurt kek but she later created Keaton's mom and made her a milf bait
Also all the characters smoke weed and every route there are unfunny weed jokes.
Not to mention they had 10 artists and one programmer and a lot of the team quit and a bunch of dirty laundry was aired and acusations of xist and xphobic were thrown out
It's a fantastic dumpsterfire to follow up kek
No. 1896546
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>>1895175>>1895172nonnas, please don't leave over this, I just think fujo discussion don't belong in this specific thread due to the arguments and derailments it causes.
No. 1896562
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>>1894590>>1894413tbf men do this as well, My roommate's gym-bro boyfriend is really into Warhammer40k. He even has a tattoo from one of the factions(something like picrel). now Warhammer is a tabletop RPG series, and he's never played one (he calls it nerd stuff). He just listens to the lore videos, likes the art and aesthetic, but never engages in the actual games or the fandom. He says most of them are fat nerds and that he doesn't want to be around them. I find that so utterly bizarre. How can you be so into something but also clearly don't want to even try to learn about where it came from or the rest of its fandom.
No. 1896583
>>1896268i didn't say liking m/m is superior, i didn't even mention it. there's other types of fanfic besidees m/m and reader insert too. please donnt turn it into a yume vs fujo argument.
i said i don't like the recent influx of x readerr fics.especially when improperly tagged. in my expereience they usually show a total lack of creativitiy and terrible characterisation. of course there's a lot of bad fanfic that aren't x reader. i was simply explaining my reasoning for not liking these.
No. 1896586
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>Husbandofags getting mad that other husbandofags with better art are getting more attention than them
No. 1896590
>>1896586Absolutely based. Cute oc and cute human Alastor design. No one cares he's canonically "aro-ace"
>>1896588KEKKK she is so jealous. Pick up a loomis book and maybe you have thousand notes on a drawing too
No. 1896666
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>>1896590>KEKKK she is so jealousRidiculously jealous apparently…to the point where she had to start e-begging.
No. 1896676
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>>1896666I'll give her this I've never seen someone seethe so hard over people being better at drawing husbando art then them that they proceeded to e-beg AND leave two separate e-beg links.
No. 1896681
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>>1896588lel at her commission sheet that definitely noone buys. her whole tumblr is a fucking mess. instead of starting shit why doesn’t she use that energy to draw? it’s so hard to find yume content on her profile it’s just long textposts of bitching. why even make a yume focused account. i don’t know why the enstars fandom is like this
No. 1896698
>>1896627Nta but when men make self insert ship art they always make the female character the most attractive. Women's sexuality is unfortunately broken, looking good for their partner is a huge part of their attraction. Fantasying about being desired isn't unhealthy per se but many women are more concerned with looking attractive for their male partner rather than being in a fulfilling relationship
This is specially an issue when it comes to sex since women tend to focus on whenever their boyfriends find them sexy enough rather than focusing on actually enjoying sex. When men engage in self indulgent fantasies they never fuzz about being hot enough. They do portray themselves better looking than they are irl but they don't sexy-pose their self inserts
No. 1896707
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>light-skinned shippers getting more attention
no patrick people not wanting to follow you and like your shit art is not racism. all you do is complain. who would want to follow her after seeing her being nasty and jealous towards a random person’s art. not to mention posts like this making up the majority of her account.
>valentines day shit gets TRIPLE the attention of black history month
because you are in a yume community? it’s not strange everyone wants to draw themselves and their husbandos making out on a day literally made for romance. i don’t understand people with a persecution complex like this. it’s tumblr of all websites. who is being racist over yume art? mabye she has faced legitimate racism, but then why doesn’t she just block and move on. yumeing is escaping from the real world. what is the point of constantly posting about real world problems and issues. this is what annoys me with internet fandoms. everyone wants to be an activist instead of geeking out
No. 1896712
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>>1896707>people not having dark-skinned examples on their commission sheets and not knowing how to draw curlier hair texturesliterally just don’t commission them if they’re not up to your standards or draw it yourself. this person drew the afro on her oc better and more defined than she can kekk
No. 1896730
>>1896707Why are these people so entitled to others' likes and reblogs? It's so obvious they're just clout hungry and seething with jealousy but try to mask it through muh racism and representation and colorism. People enable these babies and their tantrums are just as bad.
>NEVER DO SHIT TO MAKE US FEEL WELCOME AND SAFE!!If you feel unsafe because people don't have dark-skinned examples on their commission sheets then you need to stop being a deranged schizo.
No. 1896736
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>>1896707>the complete saturation of light-skinned f/oswhile all the main characters she yumes are extremely light skinned. not a single black one. it’s so funny how these people in fandom cherry pick what media is “redeemable” and what is “racist” AKA what they like and what they don’t so they can shit on others. she ships herself with hiyoko saionji from danganronpa. the game that paired the darkskinned characters with monkeys in the sanrio collab and made the black farmer guy die in the first episode, and enstars which made the hafu white character aira have a heart attack and call the only dark skin character adonis a monster upon first seeing him KEKK how is that not racist enough for her?
No. 1896740
>>1896736>the game that paired the darkskinned characters with monkeys in the sanrio collabTo be fair that’s on Sanrio not danganronpa
Saionji is a weird choice though since she’s an open racist.
No. 1896759
>>1896707>>1896736This girl constantly pulls the race card over not getting enough Tumblr notes, when the reality is everyone ignores her because she husbandos a million popular characters and doesn't want to "share".
>>1896749>Someone explain this in terms my boomer brain understands. Also what the fuck is a turigirl? Or a lesboy? I'm so confused.I hate that I know this "do not follow is you're an mspec exclusionist" means that she's against people who don't support subcategories of bisexual like pansexual. But she doesn't support the concept of being a bisexual lesbian/gay or a "girl that's also a gay man" (turigirl) or a "lesbian man" (lesboy).
No. 1896769
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>>1894969there are at two insanely popular currently airing anime that don't sexualize elves (at least not nearly as much as your picrel). granted they were both created by women
No. 1896892
>>1895995You have to know that this applies for you. Other people may have better luck finding fic writers they like and want to patronize. Since we're talking commissions, I'm also someone who has commissioned art a ton, and fic (both sfw and smut). And like this nona talking about branding
>>1896349 , the same thinking is done for some fic commissioners, and sometimes you just like what the author is doing overall with their body of work thus far and just want to throw some money their way.
No. 1897145
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What het ships DON'T read as self-insert to you?
No. 1897170
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>>1897145These two but I think that more has to do with the franchise itself than the pairing. Also any canon ship that is a "secondary" ship to the main pair. Usually main characters are self-inserts so when you pair up side characters this happens less often.
No. 1897175
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>>1897145I mean maybe for girls into femdom it might be…
No. 1897184
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>>1897171>>1896519here's the thing I don't get about all these race specific autists who demand such and such ethnic group be drawn a certain way, unless an art style is trying to be hyper realistic most 2d drawn characters don't look like actual human beings, especially characters in anime, whose skull shape is more closer to something like a cat, but we suspend our disbelief and can accept that the characters being shown in screen are human beings, like picrel can be conveyed as a black person without having to draw him with big lips and detailed racial characteristics.
No. 1897189
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>>1897145Personal favorite. I think I like it when the woman is more aggressive than the man, but reasonably so.
No. 1897218
Someone made this custom character in baldur’s gate loaded with mods and has people believing she’s an actual character in the game. I don’t even care that an OC is so popular to the point there’s edits and fanart of her but are people really this retarded now? They can’t just Google and see she’s not an actual character? I thought that to be a fan of something now you could just read a wiki page but people don’t even do that now.
>>1896073I hate EA, but the period when they addressed the paywalling of Sims CC was glorious. There was and still is so many mediocre CC creators who just make shitty content like mushing together 2 existing hairs and then wanting 5 dollars for it. Simmers are so dramatic and act just as greedy as EA. Nothing actually quality is behind a perma Patreon paywall or adfly link anyways unless you like 2010 second life graphics.
No. 1897227
>>1897218people are both retarded, unfortunately, and have to be spoonfed info because googling and reading is too hard, I guess. In fairness though it can be a bit hard to tell what actually is and isn't a part of BG3 at a glance since it's so heavily modded and many people share clips or caps or stream with mods- at least until you've actually played the game yourself, which many 'fans' haven't.
Was expecting something far more convincing than the edgy waifu in your vid though kek, what brainlets. Maybe the fans for this oc started as just fans of the creator? Some people will create micro-fandoms around streamer/youtuber's custom characters and runs of games (sometimes even taking over small/quiet fandoms with it)
No. 1897232
>>1897145Any hetships in which
>both characters have developed personalities and their own agency>aren't just (you) NPCs being dragged around by the manic pixie dream girl/boy>aren't designed around the woman being abused and/or exploited by the man (even if it's being played for "laughs") or the woman being just a prize for the man's achievements>actually have chemistry in their interactions and aren't just awkward "boy meets girl/girl meets boy" dynamics or pointless romcom banterSadly a lot of heterosexual ships check only two at most of these boxes on the list because they rely on self-insertion for either the female or the male viewer instead of believable writing so it is what it is. I really can't even come up with any good examples of well made hetships except from very obscure sources.
>>189718980's and 90's anime actually had a lot of interesting m/f ships that had strong female characters with their own goals separate from the man, but dating VNs, self insert LNs, late stage coomerism and the death of shoujo manga ruined it in the late 00's-10's. And it's not just anime, I really feel like it's a global trend.
No. 1897257
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It's fascinating how this thread's criticisms on self-insert just sounds like a branch of hating the scent of pickme characterization. Older, stronger, dominant women can and do see themselves, self-inserting, in those "non self-insert" hetships but they'll be considered based for it. Note that I don't like just poorly written female characters period.
Honestly, my opinion is that I don't hate on fan creation that tries to build on top of canon, it's based when they decide to build on top of a bland female character. Otherwise, it's an inoffensive hobby.
No. 1897280
>>1897278dramione is almost always an excuse for self-inserting and not about the actual characters involved or how they were presented in canon. The HP fandom is interesting though with how poorly it took to the canon romances (or at least how loud/active portions of the fandom did), which yeah was due to the weak handling of said romances in the books/films (as well as fan preference that would exist even if they were well-written and had strong chemistry)
What canon endgame ships have gotten the most backlash the last couple years? Feels like nothing I've been into has inspired that kind of drama for a long time kek
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>>1896706nta but I don't take it as that strange. I have a mutual who is also really into Warhammer40k(to her credit, she reads the tie-in novels), but she has no interest in tabletop gaming. She likes the series because of how well-developed the history is and how varied the characters are. She basically uses the setting to ship her self-insert with edgy superhumans who are genetically designed to be super-hot, and are themselves based on historical figures (as superhuman demi-gods). And she's not the only one, there's a community of shippers (though very small) who use the setting to tell their own stories because of how extensive and broad-reaching it is.
No. 1897328
>>1897257I personally dislike het ships for different reasons but I do think it’s hilarious how a lot of these poor arguments ITT amount to
>its bad and ooc when its a hetship but in-character and “exploring” when its a homo shipThe lack of self-awareness is just too funny.
No. 1897331
>>1897328>>1897257I don't have any grudge with self inserts, I do tend to hate them when their fandom annonys me(Zutara, Reylo). But I do it to bl ships too (anything MHA, supernatural or teen wolf related).
My only problem is because it's aimed at being an empowerment fantasy self inserts tend to have nlog characters who are antagonistic with other female characters. Noticed this a lot with villainess isekai stories even though ironically the entire reason the genre exists is because villainess in shoujos were unfairly terribly written kek.
No. 1897338
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>>1897333nta I'm aware of common tropes but I really don't see this one that often, I see way more of what
>>1896564 mentioned where the mc is just genderbend version of his mom, like half the main cast of MHA is like this.
No. 1897341
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>>1897338Naruto and Percy Jackson come to mind, I do also see the reverse where they swap the mom and dad's looks in the son + daughter if there is more than one kid.
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>>1897145Aw Ahiru and Fakir were very cute
No. 1897375
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>>1896467NTA but man "son looks like clone of dad and daughter looks like clone of mom" has to be the lamest family design trope lol
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>>1897328I just want nonnies to be better at explaining what makes them uncomfortable, kek. Maybe then we'll learn to live and let live better. I see some posts shooting down some hetship as self-insert and ddlg lately when they just mean the tried and true naive, well meaning girl x evil or rude guy. Just admit it's not for you kekk. It reminds me to people projecting a friend they had/hated on Vanilla (or Chocolat). Western audience hated Vanilla, and Japanese audience hated Chocolat. Both of them were pretty reasonable characters but it's been a while since I watched.
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>>1897383>>1897381Off-topic, but I despise the pop-fantasy trend of portraying archers as always physically weak fighters who only fight from a distance. As someone who has experience with archery, I know that being an effective archer requires significant upper body and arm strength. For example, my brother, who is bigger than me, can effortlessly draw a 75 lb recurve bow, whereas I struggle with it. However, in almost every modern popular depiction, the archer is depicted as a small, rail-thin person.
No. 1897397
>>1897383>Given how popular he is I wish we had more bishonen elves insteadGod I'm so pissed what coomer moids did to Link (and elves in general) like
>>1894991 mentioned. A race known for being beautiful and looking young forever? Better make 99% of them women! If there's an elf it has to be a cute girl. If there's (god forbid) a good-looking male elf he has to be a total wimp or femboy. But of course if there's orcs they've gotta be men. If there's dwarves they've gotta be men.
No. 1897410
>>1897396ikr. not mention in the heyday for bows in warfare in various places in the world the bows were 110+lbs.
here's 160lb
No. 1897413
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>>1897397Is that or people drawing Link as a TIF because…
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>>1897430agreed. also i'm tired of the "wimpy archer salad eater perpetually arguing with manly dwarves" shit, tolkien elves were butiful ethereal long-haired bishouneen AND dangerous warriors. s/o to the murderous noldor in the silmarillion
No. 1897453
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>>1897440>>1897397>>1897396The infuriating thing about this is the fact that elves are meant to represent the peak of men. They are taller, stronger, and more beautiful than human men. They are also meant as a cautionary tale about the capacity of the great good and evil that men can do. Tolkien describing elves as being beautiful means that they were all attractive and young, as a means to describe their perfection. Despite that, elves were able to "pass" as humans, they just seemed like tall, handsome men.
There's a really tragic story by Abataa about an elf warrior prince Aegnor, who fell in love with a human woman, Andreth, and he wanted to live a life with her. However, she started growing old (he still loved her nonetheless), but then she passed away, and he remained young, giving up everything in his life, his title, his kingdom, and life - until they were reunited after death. The story is part of a broader story with themem about how men and elves are one race that have more in common with each other
No. 1897474
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Is this person for real?
No. 1897482
>>1897474It's so funny to me that tiffies demand to be represented in otomes. Otome is the girliest fucking hobby. Makes me laugh how tiffies still retain the same shitty taste as normal women. I have never seen a tif into femdom or even normal bishies, they are always into old men and
abusive scrotes that are both popular with turbo normie women.
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>>1897485>Do these people think their own tiny twitter circle is an accurate representation of the world at large?yes
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>>1897453the fanfic youdescribed seems inspired by tolkien's own "Athrabeth Finrod ah
Andreth" in HoME vol. 10 (Morgoth's Ring) in which Andreth has a philosphical debate with Aegnor's brother about mortality and the differences between elves and men. Aegnor's canon fate is different: he doesn't give up his titles of anything (nor does he have a kingdom) but he dies in battle early, possibly before andreth herslef dies. the story wasn't included in the silmarillion but it can be found in supplementary volumes and is a fan favourite that spawnned a lot of fic/art. it also explains a lot about tolkien's idea of elves and mortality. highly recommended.
>>1897474tifs believe you can identify out of oppression. so if you choose to stay a dumb ol' woman instead if a woke special tif you basically agree to sexism
No. 1897511
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>>1897485That person was saying it was homophobic of the company behind Love and Deepspace to make a rule against BL content for their official spaces like discord and facebook, then a bunch of yumes came whining about how they can't have anything and they already have to share other spaces with smelly fujos or whatever
No. 1897548
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>>1897537to be fair even as a yume who sides with fujos and hates otomes i get the love and deepspace yumes. I was thinking of dowloading it because it's the only yume game that lets you sexualize moids.
No. 1897561
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>>1897538I think this will blow your mind but women also watch and ship het from non-shoujo, non-josei titles. Anons talking about self-inserting het wasn't specific to shoujo anime at all. I don't hate discussion anime in general is far from perfect, I just wish anons understood what made them comfortable of that dynamic more than saying self-insert, nonachan.
No. 1897563
>>1897549Nice try twisting the narrative.
>play obviously yume game>act surprised when you arent allowed to draw BL for art contest>”Y-YOU’RE BEING HOMOPHOBIC AND EXCLUDING QUEER PLAYERS!!1!”Is more like how it went.
No. 1897579
>>1897549I don't get why the fujos just can't go play something else if they don't like it? There are plenty of other mobage where there are no rules against BL content. Don't like what the company is doing? Then uninstall. It's really that simple but of course crying on twitter about the homophobic Chinese company and evil straight women wanting to play an otome game is apparently the better solution.
>>1897565>Also I don't know why people would be so bothered over BL art unless it's about homophobia anyway, weirdly enough they didn't ban GL art kek. Is there even GL options in this game? Who would be posting that? Also it's not really that surprising they'd want to keep the content separate, I'm sure Chinese fan communities are similar to Japanese communities in that there are specific rules when it comes to ships and all that
No. 1897694
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>>1897511This was one of the most irritating NLOG twitter threads I had to witness. Her misogyny radiates from her every word and I'm glad people dogpiled for her original tweet because how could anyone interpret it as anything other than a NLOG heckin boi trying to act manly by acting like a totes mean gurl gay (aka a nerdy woman imitating a gay man imitating Regina George, incredible).
No. 1897710
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One of the biggest issues with fandom is that it is being written by people who have never worked or have done low-effort jobs and are terminally online and porn-sick. Consequently, whatever they write, it will reek of those factors. In their minds, it makes sense that everyone is constantly thinking about gross sex,
No. 1897723
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>>1896681>>1896707She got one single pity commission from constantly whining.
No. 1897739
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>>1897733not sure if this is real but someone posted that she got poop on her jeans:
https://twitter.com/diorgyus/status/1759240739588837686 No. 1897753
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i didn’t notice it was already posted but there’s funny pictures of the idols smelling shit from the event kek(no kpop)
No. 1897757
found the video
>>1897745 is from
>>1897753this is such a nightmare, kek, but the faces are hilarious.
No. 1897772
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>>1897734I didn't watch it when it aired but I witnessed the BLmatsu circle's degeneracy by osmosis. Cringematsu on Twitter still has a lot of the worst stuff archived.
No. 1897822
>>1897781Fujos probably flocked to it even though the characters were ugly because being brothers made it "spicy", and each pair had a different dynamic so there was "something for everyone" if you were into that. 2015 was when I noticed the fandom purity discourse kicked off, so it probably emboldened "
problematic shippers" to be more edgy for attention.
>>1897809Bronies are worse, but the original Osomatsu-kun was popular with kids in Japan and the pornsickness and degeneracy in each fandom was almost equal.
No. 1897839
>>1897822Tbf it was popular with kids in the 60s.
Over 50 years had past, I don't think matters as much anymore. They recently did the same with another very old property, making Gegege stuff but for adults.
No. 1897866
>>1897856Voltron aired a year later. I noticed discourse about "
problematic shipping" became rampant on Tumblr in 2015, then it exploded after the Star Wars reboot over Reylo. Then Voltron started airing and Sheith happened. I'm sure there's more fandoms/ships that kickstarted it but I really remember it started in 2015 and hitting it's peak the next year.
No. 1897870
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>>1897833>an original anime about Red and Blue's adult lives as boring office workers going on wacky adventures with dick jokes every ten secondsI'd watch it.
No. 1897921
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>>1897207He could be Indian, Indonesian, black, or just a dark-skinned Japanese person. My point is that anime characters drawn in one of the "default" manga styles can never represent actual human races. Take Yoruichi from bleach for e.g. Since her debut, fans have debated whether she is black or Indian, but she was always meant to be just a dark-skinned Japanese woman and this happens a lot with character's who are simply meant to be dark-skinned Japanese/ryukyuan people and that's why I think validate creators(as well as western oteme creators in general) are fucking morons.
No. 1897941
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>>1896519>Catherine and Emhari are trannies and Emhari is a transbianLmao wtf. Kind of hilarious looking at the official twitter’s special vday posts
>Emhari gets makeout sessions with a bunch of women including the white milf they were so salty about being popular (basically straight couples)>holds pinkies with the black fat transbianEven their actions reveal they have the same tastes as the fans they hate lol. Just like when they made Keaton a conventionally attractive e-boy.
No. 1898014
>>1898002Fwiw in the smaller famdoms I follow yume and fujo are basically the same.
They'll draw their husbando with girls, they'll draw him with guys, they just like that male character specifically.
No. 1898069
>>1897941Um, wow, isn't that totally
problematic and transphobic of him to be making out with "AFABs" but friendzone his fellow transbian? Time to cancel this game!
No. 1898101
>>1898002Yume and fujo content is usually directed to women, so it's no surprise that most of them are both. There are annoying and cringe ones in both sides, so it's not that surprising they stir up some debate.
>>1898082I keep my yume side to myself tbh, I think self ship can be more personal for a lot of people.
No. 1898105
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>>1898002This. Japanese yumes are normally both. I also noticed that most japanese yumefujos either draw their ship or draw their husbando(in this case her husbando is the glasses ginger), but they almost never draw the guy they ship him with by themselves.
No. 1898419
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the tranny that made the dashboard unfucker (an extension that reverts the update that makes tumblr look more like X) is going to cancel the project due to the drama with predstrogen (his blogs being banned by the CEO). in this post that shows up on the dashboard if you have the extension, dragongirlsnout espouses his love for "trans girls" and talks about the drama which is mostly covered in /snow/ if you haven't seen
No. 1898436
>>1897561A lot are looking for an excuse and exaggerate about something just because it isn't to their tastes. It's like when pakichan rees about yaoi being bad because it's '
abusive' (even when no abuse is present in the story), when it's just not to taste.
No. 1898459
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It's really interesting how much the perceptions of Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon have been drastically changed. The perception of Zack Snyder was that he made movies for "dude-bros" and he was considered a "douche jock," often compared to someone like Joss Whedon, who was thought to make media that was truly feminist. However, recent events have caused people to reevaluate those opinions. Joss Whedon was revealed to have cheated on his wife constantly and was abusive to the cast of Buffy and Angel. People also noticed a lot lot pervy stuff of his female characters. On the other hand, Zack Snyder had smaller events that contributed to the shift in perception. He defend Ray Fisher when he called out racism on the Justice League set, cast diverse actors in his movies, publicly disowned an alt-right grifter podcast, and more recently defended Amber Heard. These events made people reconsider their preconceived notions.
No. 1898496
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>>1898436I'm thankful for this mutual understanding.
No. 1898636
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I feel like I’m the only monster high fan not excited about this. It feels like fanfiction ascending rather than a G1 continuation. In a world full of sci fi fantasy monster people the most exciting plot for a comic return is….bring queer?
No. 1898669
>>1898496I guess my explanation
>>1897589 doesn't count huh
No. 1898704
>>1898636Monster High sucks so much ass nowadays. I also think it's funny how some characters are safe from being a kweerio like Draculaura… when Clawdeen/Draculaura was one of the most popular fan pairings in G1… almost like they're afraid to tarnish the sales of their best selling doll to appeal to the retarded nonbinary womanchildren with mullets who make up like 80% of the Monster High adult fandom nowadays. (Kind of funny when I clearly remember adult fan spaces during G1 being filled with weeby/goth women who created original characters to ship and conjure up imaginary drama with, and gay men. Not the genderfluid, nonbinary females that make up a majority of the fanbase now who seem to be scared of anything that's more adult than the Bluey miscarriage hinting episode.)
I hate the MH fandom now. Now everyone's on some sort of 1984 police state bullshit.
>FRANKIE IS NONBINARY AND USES THEYTHEM PRONOUNS WHY ARE YOU REFERRING TO A DOLL IN YOUR POSSESSION THAT YOU BOUGHT AS "SHE/HER"… KIND OF SUS…It's so fucking retarded. We desperately need to return to the stolen mspaint base drama of yore.
No. 1898713
>>1898704The dolls were always intended to be diverse and subversive. One of the characters was supposed to be a lesbian but the company wouldn't let the designers bring it up. Nonbinaryism is retarded but don't act like anything that isn't straight is nonsense. Unless you don't mean that, then ignore me.
>>1896736>lesboyThis is new
No. 1898714
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>>1898713Clawdeen was never meant to be a lesbian kekkkk anon. Be for fucking real. Don't act like them putting everyone in a gay relationship isn't pandering bullshit. Apparently a leak source says they're making Deuce Gorgon asexual too. Like be honest with yourself.
No. 1898728
>>1898721G1 Clawdeen isn't a lesbian…? Look at this post here and read the pic
>>1898714, then go back and read your post here about how she was meant to be a lesbian
>>1898713 and know that you're wrong.
No. 1898733
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Speaking of Monster High I hate that they made Catty Noir into Fatty Noir. Very smart decision for a fashion doll… making one a fat-ass so you can't even exchange clothes with the other fashion dolls. Of course the Monster High community celebrates this because the old bodies gave 7 year olds anorexia even though Monster High fans in 2010 rejected this notion… how did the old dolls promote anorexia but this doll doesn't promote fatassery?
No. 1898734
>>1898714>putting everyone in a gay relationship isn't pandering bullshit.Is putting everyone in a straight relationship pandering? Retard.
>>1898719Normal people don't seethe about gays or racial minorities in television, nona. Go take a nap.
No. 1898743
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>>1898733Catty went from A Fine Girl to OH LAWD SHE COMIN'
No. 1898747
>>1898740Don't buy the dolls then if they aren't pandering to you. Why does it make you so mad? Monster High was always supposed to be a line for alt kids so this makes sense for them.
>>1898736How do you know what kids want better than execs that put their money into market research?
No. 1898751
>>1898747>Monster High is for ALT KIDS!!!>It's fine to expose them to bullshit sexualities like pansexuality>It's also fine to expose them to trannydomAre you part of the G3 design team or something?
Also
>How do you know what kids want better than execs that put their money into market research?They're going to make Deuce Gorgon asexual. No little girl wants a boy doll who isn't dating one of the girl dolls. No little girl dreams of playing with an asexual boy kekkkkkk they're pandering hardcore to the autistic millenial womenchildren.
No. 1898763
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The last sentence should be told to these pro-Palestine kids that suddenly forgot Ukraine.(derailing)
No. 1898770
>>1898766>boy dolls, fat dolls, and genderspecial dolls are popular with children that play with dollsIf you consider 12-14 to be children, then yes, tranny bullshit is popular with them. Lots of preteens are into genderspecial retardation. They're the primary demographic of neopronoun and fairygender type nonsense.
>>1898733Mixing and matching clothes is like the best thing you can do with dolls. It's supposed to be about self expression, right? What a joke.
No. 1898791
>>1898733i don't mind different body type rep in dolls, especially since the new curvy draculaura is so cute, but this is obviously not for children and instead going to be a hit with doll customizers, i think. i used to babysit a lot, and honestly? kids don't play with dolls anymore, not even a little bit. all these new changes are for the television show, where they can have frankie sing about being a they/them so little kids get it stuck in their head, and the dolls are for adults- they shouldn't have even bothered with launching anything for children imo, or seemingly packaged for children, anyway, and instead have gone full gothic adult collector dolls.
i'm not even sure if children are watching the television show, too. kids kind of only watch youtube nowadays.
No. 1898814
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>>1898763sage for OT and blogpost, I'm a third-worlder so getting books is often-hard, and there was this uploader who would often give PDFs of some pretty obscure books to download. I never thought much about him, but recently he posted that he had been conscripted in the war. He's in his late 20s and has bad knees, but he's still being forced into this conflict because they need every man. I guess that was the moment where the war was still happening and people were dying for no reason. People turn wars into trends and hashtags. There's something just so dystopian about it. I hope he makes it alive and the war ends.
(derailing blogpost) No. 1898846
>>1898763Imagine telling these war fanorbiters how many wars are currently going except Ukraine and Palestine where are the tags for the countless civil and guerilla wars in Africa and Middle East
cough Yemen cough if they truly care for the refugees where are the reforms besides a fucking hashtag? A tweet or a Palestini miku won't save the child from being bombed in gaza..the nonna who said this was the kony for zoomers was right
and I say that as one myself No. 1898860
>>1898636I hate how I've gone to being excited over the potential of LGB characters when I was a lesbian teen to dreading it because it's so performative. I wish they would just leave this up to fandom to ship/headcanon whoever they want instead of trying to cash in on it.
>>1898809TBF that was my and a lot of other lesbians I knew experience when I was young. I thought I was asexual because I didn't want a boyfriend.
No. 1898865
>>1898862They know they can get away with high prices and horrific quality because of the obnoxious kweerio pandering. They know they have a legion of spicy straight nonbinary zoomer women that will foam at the mouth and screech about "muh -phobia!!!" at anyone who says the quality and pandering suck. They'll slurp up that slop even if the clothes were made of styrofoam because NONBINARY PANSEXY REPRESENTATION!!!
Also why the fuck does Frankie has a prosethetic leg when she could just dig another one up from a random grave kek. Such retarded logic.
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>>1897589>>1898669Then doesnt that just fall into the same shitty writing/pickme writing criticism rather than a fault of "self inserting" because, again, women also self-insert, in ships not at all like you described. I'm not turning a blind eye on the fact that female media is so ridden with the worse tropes no wonder girls are identifying as nonbiney and conflating a good relationship between female characters or even just two female characters who don't sabotage each other for a romantic interest = automatically gay.
No. 1898918
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>>1898791Agreed, it definitely seems like a doll that will sell well with customizers.
It's a bit sad in a way that kids no longer play with dolls though, but I guess stuff like roblox scratches that itch for them since a lot of kids basically use it like a dress up game.
No. 1898931
>>1898907NTA but this is some vintage 2015 r/TiA Anti-SJW post. You win teh internetz and have some gold for your epic roast
nonnie.
No. 1898943
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>>1898906Turning Girls, it's up on youtube officially by Studio
Trigger. My favs are the fujo and kaerun's episodes.
No. 1898952
>>1898945I just asked how many real, actual sexualities there are. Are we getting invaded by tumblrtards that think asexual is a hecking
valid sexuality? as far as i know only clawdeen, who's a lesbian, has a real sexuality. Everyone else is some kool aid flavour.
No. 1898956
>>1898791I have a lot of kids in my family from age 1 to 15 and they really don't play with dolls anymore unless they're Disney Princess brand tie-ins, none of the little girls I know care about those and are instead into all those cute animal plushie things like squishmallows and magic mixies and legos. They still watch cartoons and kids' shows though, just not with the linear TV format like the Saturday morning cartoons we used to have. Usually their parents pick the shows off streaming services.
>>1898952And anons were seething over her lesbianism too kek
No. 1898959
>>1898956>And anons were seething over her lesbianism too kekthey were seething because they made her a lesbian instead of making a new character, which is indeed pandering. Specially when it was confirmed she wasnt intended to be a lesbian
>>1898714>>1898957isnt frankie non binary too?
No. 1898962
>>1898959>because they made her a lesbian instead of making a new characterThis logic is so retarded to me, why can’t you make a pre existing character a lesbian? If anything it’s more stupid to make a new character just to make them a lesbian because then that becomes their entire personality.
>isnt frankie non binary too?Only in the reboot
No. 1898965
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>>1898959Frankie is non binary and the show never shuts up about “queerness”. Why couldn’t Frankie just be a lesbian instead of a walking trans flag? They make sure to add the flag colors to every one of her outfits to drive the point home.
No. 1898972
>>1898967Anon by your logic every time they make a character straight they’re also pandering to heterosexuals.
>it's honestly insulting for straight girls who grew up uninterested in boys because they sucked and were asked if they were lesbians for not being boy-crazy.Did you ever consider that some of those girls probably did grow up to be lesbians?
No. 1898976
>>1898968Nobody relates to Clawdeen because she the one with the most flop doll releases. They only made her gay, if
>>1898636 is going to be considered canon, because she's not a very popular character. Never really has been. Not the way Draculaura is kek. They make the flops faggots and lesbians because they know they can't touch the dolls that actually sell.
No. 1898979
>>1898972It would be pandering to straight people if they included the "straight pride" colors and talked about being heckin
valid heterosexual. But they don't so it's not pandering. Do you understand now?
No. 1898980
>>1898959As long as nobody's explicitly stated to be heterosexual, they can't be "made" into a lesbian
nonnie. She's quite normie looking and attractive design and not one of those evil fat blue haired feminists and discreet about the lesbianism yet anons are still seething as if it's sending brain washing waves into their teenage cousin's brain.
No. 1898990
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>>1898976this kinda silly, imo. they made clawdeen a lesbian cause it was popular in the fandom, and valentine gay because that was going to be referenced in his SDCC exclusive release journal but the creator wasn't allowed, and now they're able to. this isn't the worst case of pandering, frankie being a nonbinary is far worse than doing pride comics that only the adult collectors would care about.
No. 1899007
>>1899001>The creator said that he always wanted her to be one but Mattel didn't let himfunny because he said the opposite here
>>1898714 he said she wasnt intended to be a lesbian, just a non boy crazy straight woman.
No. 1899030
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>>1898987they just said they didn't want her to be boy crazy, didn't use the word heterosexual.
No. 1899069
>>1899053>She's actually hetero in the non-canon stuff that I think is closer to canon!!ok. Look at that then.
>>1899066Even if they do this to pander, what is the actual issue with pandering to lesbians kek
No. 1899078
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Idc about canon these are two lesbians and I’m tired of being jumped for not thinking Frankie is a themlet.
No. 1899100
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I wish they paired her off with someone other than Torelai, Torelai x Cleo makes more sense for G1 than this.(derailing)
No. 1899110
>>1899093Ntayrt but I think it's that
>I hope they turn all the characters into [sexuality] out of pure spite to own the fans that don't want changeWorks for both.
No. 1899120
>>1898704they act like these pieces of plastic could feel, i once saw xitter retards complain about a random ig user putting a g3 drac head on a g1 body, as if that user couldnt do what he pleases with the dolls under his possession. i love dolls and collecting them but some members of the community have to realize that buying and customizing dolls is not activism, that things wont change in the real world because now frankie is a gendie or catty is fat or whatever. its better for them to admit that theyre just consoomers and not the leaders of a new revolution.
>>1898743kek
No. 1899165
>>189877014 year olds don't play with dolls so they're just doing this shit for adults
>>1898733the neck still being skinny but body being fat looks so weird
No. 1899566
>>1899282his fanbase is shit and have ruined anything he has made that has ever been remotely acceptable, and he managed to ruin the character superman for the general public with his edgy, jesus-parallel, wet-cardboard ass personality take on the character.
i guess its good he's nice to his actors, though. i just hope that dc never lets him touch another IP again.
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>>1898459Taika Waititi had a similar (and even swifter) downfall. First, the RWers hated him cause of Thor:Love and Thunder (wokies still praised him out of spite). Then, other details started being revealed, such as his very public affairs with much younger women while his then-wife remained in New Zealand, looking after their kids. People also thought some elements of his previous work were tasteless. The straw that broke the camel's back was his desire to have the hostages returned and his condemnation of Hamas (even though it was the least awful thing he had ever done). Now, he is more or less cancelled, which is honestly good to see.
No. 1899605
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>>1898459>>1899282Zach cheated on his first wife as well in 1996 when he was working on a commercial. He met Deborah Johnson, an established producer(both had spouses and kids). She handpicked him for other work despite him having no other credentials. She has been a producer for pretty much all of his films, and it is speculated that she was the driving force behind his both in his early work and keeping him on WB after MoS. I don't know how much of their relationship was based on love or lust (they are still married), but it doesn't change the fact that Zach essentially slept his way into his position.
No. 1899646
>>1894228i don't like fetish gear all that much
nonnie, but like, the moid in your pic is fat and probably old.
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>>1897342YWN desperately poetically dance your way to untree your man, why live.
No. 1899895
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people sent this poster, death threats and gore videos over this tweet.
No. 1900826
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So, I watched Netflix's Live Action Avatar and there were probably thousands things I disliked that I could get into. However, one thing that felt most egregious was the characterization of Sokka and Katara. So, yeah, they did remove Sokka's early season sexism, but they also took away his goofiness and incompetence. He now takes on the full responsibility of the village and is actually a good guardian. He's also serious and brooding most of the time (effectively turning him into a Sasuke). This lack of characterization also reduces Katara's role because she doesn't have anyone to rant against. I don't have any idea why this was done, cause they are effectively different characters.
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>>1900826The wig they had for Yue was so gaudy and cheap-looking.
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>>1897511I am late to this drama but holy fucking based devs telling cucks to kill themselves
This is pushing me to install the game finally
No. 1901200
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>>1900826The way they handled the romance was so utterly retarded. Sokka is more stoic and isn't a goofball anymore, so he doesn't pursue any female character romantically, instead they have the female character peruse him first, Suki basically becomes an obsessive stalker after seeing him shirtless once. To a lesser extent this happens with Yue as well. That said, I do find it more retarded that progressives are getting mad at the show for "objectifying" him
No. 1901270
>>1901182imagine thinking BL content being prohibited
only in an otome game's community spaces is the same as all BL content being banned for every piece of media, it's not wrong for LADS to want this, it's an otome game and they don't want any misconceptions as to what genre it is and what content it has, it's off topic as well, it's like bringing up Minecraft in a discord for Valorant, and no doubt these people would freak out if someone interrupted some brave and stunning coming out in a lgbt group with stuff related to farming.
No. 1901281
>>1900923My only problem with Zuko is that in season 1 he’s more angry than anything but doesn’t come off that way in the live action show, he comes off as pathetic “he RAAaan”.
No hate on the actor but he’s going to get a lot of hate because even with hair (which we do see in the live action) he doesn’t look like Zuko.
On a tangent note, why does ATLA attract so many autistic fans
No. 1901284
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>>1900980The movie unironically looks better.
It’s funny seeing people praise the movie because of the Netflix show.
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>>1901284I don't see anyone saying the film was good, but now they understand where Shyamalan was coming from. That he knew it was impossible to directly copy the show, so he was was trying to do his own thing. Some of it worked, most of it didn't, but the costume design and general filming were a lot better than people realized, and I always thought Aang's Tattoo was better handled.
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>>1901299You're right, like vidrel was probably expensive and time-consuming to make in animation, but It would have been damn near impossible to have it in live action without it looking incredibly cheap.
No. 1901328
>>1901321>How I wish western animation Huh?
ATLA was produced by MOI Animation, an South Korean Studio.
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>>1901321you can blame streaming for this, Most animated shows typically ran for about 3 to 4 seasons, approximately 52 to 65 episodes(although there are a few exceptions). This practice is based on the old syndication system, where networks would order 52 episodes in order to license the show for reruns on other channels. This is how we ended up with some rather experimental shows like Courage the cowardly dog and Ren and Stimpy, but also the popular action shows of the 2000's like Teen Titans and Kim Possible.
Streaming killed this system, and so now modern animated cartoons have 1 or 2 seasons before being cancelled.
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What makes one selfshipper more popular than the other anyway? Like…does their self insert art get more likes?
No. 1901426
>>1901182Chinese yumes being unhinged cunts with anger issues like always, what else is new. Everyone supporting this totally based pro-woman game will forget about it in 3 months and refuse to take part in any community event because they can't handle seeing their imaginary boyfriend hold another woman and then they will whine about there "not being enough het content".
>>1901417Nobody was asking changes to be made to the game itself, people took offense to
fanart with BL elements being banned because it's a game from a country where creating homosexual content sending you to jail and thus an indicator of conforming to anti-human rights laws even in international spaces. Actual pathetic insecurity not to be able to handle some occasional bishounen shipping.
No. 1901435
>>1900826sokka still has goofy moments, but it's true that he's less of a comedic relief and he's taken more seriously instead. katara's personality is quite different, but this is one thing that i don't mind because i could never vibe with katara's personality in the og series kek also people are mad cause this katara is learning to waterbend too fast, when this was the same fucking problem with animation katara. she started from nothing and in just a few months she was able to master waterbending, learn martial arts and could hold herself against zuko… how does this even make sense. azula however really bothers me, the actress looks NOTHING like her and she doesn't read like a heartless irredeemable sociopath anymore
there was no kataang romance either, which is pretty neat cause that ship is garbage fire. i feel like people are way too attached to the characterization in the og show and think that everything is absolutely perfect, but ATLA actually struggles a lot with romance for instance
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>>1901425Honestly self inserting makes me cringe to much to enjoy, I feel like a delusional goblin. I need several layers of reality between me and my fav. Yume nonnas are strong.
No. 1901442
>>1901438At least for westerners and ESPECIALLY chinese fujos.
Jp ones seem to get along with their massive birthday shrines for one character.
No. 1901452
>>1901442>Jp ones seem to get along with their massive birthday shrines for one character.Because it's hard to buy your husbandos' merchs when most of them are gacha. When you have to have to go to Animate or whatever similar store to get a keychain of your husbando (or waifu, it still applies) and you have to buy one without knowing which character you'll get you have to collaborate with other fans, trade in front of the store with other fans, sell what you don't want to other fans online, and if they're merchs that are only sold during one specific time limited event you have to work even harder to trade with other fans and second hand merchs can become super expensive. So the best thing to do is to meet up with fellow fanswith the same husbandos, unite your merchs to take the most ridiculous and expensive pictures known to mankind, and make friends who will later send you a shit ton of fanarts of your shared husbando. The thing about merchs also applies to fujoshi because they usually tend to want matching badges, charms, keychains, figurines, etc. to the point when they'll even order too much food and drinks in collab cafes if they're referencing their OTP. Fujoshi and yumejoshi really aren't that different in Japan when it comes to being consoomers.
No. 1901464
>>1901444I'm so happy to see Western fans finally realising that changing characters is actually annoying to fans of the source material.
They altered or added new scenes which makes characters come off differently or just fundamentally changes characters.
>Roku is now goofy for some reason>Too much emphasis on Kyoshi even though Roku is supposed to be Aang's mentor. I've been getting annoyed by the Kyoshi worship going on (omg tall bisexual 200 year old goddess) as much as I love her>Zuko fought his dad and decided not to blast him when in the cartoon he was begging for his dad's forgiveness. >Why is Suki weirdly obsessed with Sokka>Azula looked worried during the fight between Zuko and Ozai despite her originally being gleeful when her brother was getting publicly humiliated in a death trial. >Not showing anything and having too much exposition. No. 1901472
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>>1901425>>1901441Same. My ideal scenario is to have a female character who is well-developed and relatable in her own right, and has an interesting relationship with whoever my fav is. The closest I can get to true self-insertion is through blank slate charcters like the Genshin mcs, but even then I would always prefer a girl who is her own fully developed character who I can project myself upon.
No. 1901489
>>1901483Ntayrt but I've never had a crush on somebody so I don't know.
All I want is gay anime boys to be at peace together.
No. 1901502
>>1901484I don't reduce her to that, I still appreciate her for the unique dynamic she has with the husbando I pair her with. I just mean I imagine myself in her place whenever I see her and the husbando character happy together. It's less of imagining that she is acting out my actions, and more that I am acting out her actions.
>>1901483Tbh I'm basically the third wheel in all my fantasies, even in non-romantic ones. It's hard for me to truly self-insert into anything, I prefer thinking about other characters rather than myself.
>Do you have the same attitude towards real couples?Not at all. I mean I want my irl friends to have good romantic relationships (though most of them are even more reclusive than me) but I've never been jealous of another girl/had my crush end up with someone else.
No. 1901535
>>1901489Different situation here
>>1901502Sounds like you have no real crushes. When you love someone, you don't want to see them with someone else
>>1901509Maybe? I don't really care. I can't say watching any romance unfold gives me any joy like good for them, but I don't see why would that make me particularly happy
No. 1901571
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>>1901483a) they don't real
b) somehow i manage to enjoy things that are not about me
No. 1901779
>>1901182the official dni is so funny to me. I don't get why they would care about anything besides money/promotion
>>1901569would that even count as self-inserting though? isn't that just hetshipping?
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violently heterosexual women are taking T to transform themselves into their favorite bishie
No. 1901921
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>>1901910he's a bishie compared to the other guys in his game
No. 1902002
>>1901995i just said you sound like a moid who has never seen a real woman outside of porn. Hyper realistic videogames look like shit because they always make sure to apply every single skin texture to men, while the women are still kept as pretty perfect pricesses uwu
>>1901999It should honestly. Playing games with ugly moids is cuckoldry at this point. Notice how the women are perfect and all the scrotes are vile looking, how can you play something that actively hates you? yakuza is overrated dogshit anyways
No. 1902006
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>>1901472Off-topic but why is the design of the female player character always more "sexy" than the male player character? Lumine doesn't bother me a lot but the design of the female rover from Wuthering Waves is just too coomery for my liking. Honestly, her design would not have bothered me as much as it does if the male rover also received the same treatment. But he is covered from head to toe in burqa-esque clothes. It is only the female player characters that get super sexy designs. Is this because many scrotes prefer to use the female avatar?
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>>1902006what do you mean, you dont think this is sexy?
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>>1902002>Yakuza is overrated >likes Genshinlol
No. 1902017
>>1902002You have problems kek
Caring too much about how some rando characters look over actually enjoying the experience of playing a game, like the plot, gameplay, music, etc.
Why even bother playing anything? Are moids the only things floating around in that empty brain of yours?
No. 1902020
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>>1902005>moid standars are below the groundIt really is. Scrotes on /v/ and other moid-infested spaces were talking about how feminists are getting
triggered by stellar blade because they hate beauty. Funnily enough, they don’t apply these beauty standards to male character in the same game who is ugly as fuck.
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See point
>>1895479 The graphics in modern games don't necessarily look better, they are just poorly unoptimized. Many developers have abandoned visually pleasing art styles. It's a recurring issue in current gen-gaming, and it has been an ongoing concern for a while now, the high cost of creating modern games. It's understandable that expenses rise when developers focus on incorporating 4K textures for tree bark, rocks, and even details as minute as an enemy's fur texture.
No. 1902049
>>1902048nta but I was the one who made this comment
>>1901931 and responses were someone else.
No. 1902051
>>1902049again why did you respond to
>>1902041 then? i wasnt talking about you.
No. 1902052
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yakuza sperg anon, if you're offended by the female NPCs don't look up mesuking kek
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>>1902055this is your brain on gacha
(retarded infighting) No. 1902069
>>1902062i am just laughing at anons thinking they are better for playing a game like yakuza that actively hates them kek at least have some self awareness
>>1902067there are no cute twinks in yakuza. Give me cute twinks wrestling in bug costumes and i will try your slop game.
>>1902065i will take shotas over moids covered in wrinkles any fucking day
No. 1902262
>>1901464>Too much emphasis on Kyoshi even though Roku is supposed to be Aang's mentor. I've been getting annoyed by the Kyoshi worship going on (omg tall bisexual 200 year old goddess) as much as I love herYeah, I noticed this as well. I actually read the first Kyoshi novel, and It honestly reminded me of Korean manhwas
>"I'm a poor ugly peasant that everyone treats like absolute garbage, but I'm secretly from a super special bloodline and the strongest Avatar that has ever existed." I wasn't surprised that it was written by someone who had no connection with the show. The thing is, the show already conveyed that she was powerful and fierce. However, making her the "strongest" just because took away a lot of the tension for her character, because by the end she had learned every bending sub-style and felt like an OC character.
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>>1902262Wait
She can bloodbend, metal bend, and shoot lightening?
I’m just going to accept that ATLA is just going to go to shit.
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>>1902283whaaat? but lightning is a really rare skill and pretty clearly supposed to be a one hit k.o. in the og show. you can only avoid getting deep fried if you know the secret redirection thing invented by iroh.
this is why i hate constant spinoffs and prequels and derivative works, they always try to outdo the original and end up going way over the top
(also ot but ozai's two-handed lightning technique was so cool)
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>>1902306I have never read any of those, but it reminded me of most Korean manhwas, where the female protagonist, start off being mistreated, humiliated, and physically beaten by everyone from the moment they are born. Suddenly, they stumble upon some secret loophole or discover they possess a special heritage, and within just five chapters, they transform into a different character, outmaneuvering and humiliating all their rivals.
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>>1901779It’s still yume, just the director kind. I don’t really care for canon female characters in ships because I didn’t make them.
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>>1902020it can be so jarring how males can look in games compared to women, i literally cannot understand how tekken can get away with how expressive and detailed their male characters are, all of different ages and proportions, while the female characters look like a barbie doll in different wigs.
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>>1901345Has she considered that the reason she gets less notes is because her art is bad, not her race?
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>>1902578Nah, for Tekken it's so bad that even moids have noticed it. But mostly it's moids who like unusual women like Marisa from Street Fighter 6, so even their sensible complaint comes from a place of coom.
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>>1902711i actually really like marisa, i think her face is actually really pretty and her personality is fun. but it is a shame that out of all the fighting games right now, only capcom has anything resembling body diversity (literally the only company willing to give women muscle), different faces, and strong expressions to their female characters.. such a great genre for unique and interesting characters, and men squander it with the drive for coom.
No. 1902804
>>1902771It's an Enstars character, but I can't even tell which one because the art is so simple.
>>1902733You joke but I notice so many mediocre artists try to pull the minority card for why their art should be given a chance anyway.
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>>1902802>>1902711>>1902769>>1902435What I don't understand is why they can't takes influences from the media that established their characters in the first place. Most fighting game characters often took inspiration from real-life martial artists, action movie characters, professional wrestlers, and in some cases like King. from Fighters they used pop-idols as a references.
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>>1902817I know what you mean, I don't even play any of the newer 3D games games, I just play the older games and stare as the characters and make up my own scenarios regarding them.
No. 1902837
>>1902284>lavabendOk but to be fair before LOK, lavabending came off as an extension of really powerful fire bending and not really a sub-bending. We see the fire avatar before her doing it during a scene showing avatars performing powerful feats with their native elements (including Kyushu moving 2 large statues), then we see Roku doing it in season 1 (he’s doing nothing but fire bending when he took over Aang), then again with Kyoshi against that conquered guy but the scene shows her performing powerful feats with each element in the avatar state.
>>1902293Ever since LOK the writers really went back and retconned a ton of stuff
>>1902295I think there has to be a balance between having a character like Korra (barely getting her own wins) and a character like Kyoshi (approaching self-insert OC levels)
The retcons and shitty love square and rushed up “we tots planned them to be Sapphic you guys” didn’t help. People are really reluctant to criticise the actual writing and just threw everything at Korra. The writing for LOK is also inferior to ATLA in every way so it’s not a surprise Korra got hate since i mean it’s her own show.
It was very telling that Wan’s episodes are really loved.
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How do you as a "fandom elder" (an adult over 25 with the type of autism that compels you to continue to engage in fandom, grew up in don't like don't read era, etc) deal with annoying zoomers?
Got told that my body should be thrown down a river after sperging about a het ship I like by someone who was clearly an under-18 gendie queerio, and though on the rational level I understand getting pissed is a waste of time, on the emotional level I want to tell these children to get out of my lawn and smack them because they're so bold in their aggression. It's exactly the type of threat that you know an insecure kid who would shit itself asking for ketchup at McDonalds would use too. How do other nonas deal with not wanting to wrangle retarded kids but encountering them in fandom anyway?
No. 1903097
>>1903059I've never participated in fandom spaces though I'd say be smart where you can. use social media platforms where you can control who can reach out to you more and filter. also it's ok if you play dirty and lie about who you are. not saying it is in any way related but I do hear that sometimes people with feminine avatars or who present as a woman get more hate. I hope it isn't true.
>>1903084it's fine to tell anon to log off for her own mental health but don't bootlick harassers.
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>>1903059I'm gonna imagine you like the het ship of a character in a yuri/yaoi ship or something. Kids think everyone needs to hear their opinions.
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>>1903126To add to this, zoomers have been so weird about this ship (and I assume many other ships). I find it so funny at the amount of people saying it's CANON that Marcille is gay, when she's an in universe shoujo girlie who fantasizes about a long haired prince on a white horse to sweep her off her feet lol. It's fucking bleak that I can only post my opinion of that here. She's bi at best if you want to argue for canon and even then you can ship characters regardless of the canon.
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Gyro may or may not care about the conflict, but Johnny would never give a shit about anything that isn't about him walking again and living a normal life. But that aisde, why do these retards insist on involving politics in cartoons, it's so annoying.
No. 1903144
>>1903059Just block/mute and don't engage. I find the zoomers annoying too but going on a Sephiroth rant about how retarded they are just attracts more of them. For the nonnas that block often have you ever gotten obnoxious people in your replies asking to be blocked/bothering you because one (or a bunch) of their mutuals tweeted "omg why am I blocked by this random person!!???
screenshot"? It's happened to me more than enough times I'd like because I'm a mid-sized account in my fandom. I would mute but the accounts still show up in search results sometimes so I can never be at peace. And honestly I'm weary about blocking too much sometimes because I've seen people do schizo analyses like accusing someone of mainly blocking black people, or in my case I'm afraid I'll get
TERF accusations because I block gendies.
No. 1903262
>>1903139DA but this is insane
>assign sexuality to fictional characters instead of just writing or drawing them in a yuri or yaoi ship and calling it a day>proceed the harass artists about itIt feels like some kind of masochism/low self esteem/power trip combo.
Masochism because why upset themselves like this by making up a complete nonissue to get mad about? Low self esteem because they're not learning how to draw or write or be creative lest they get made fun of or something (but it's perfectly fine and not-cringe to harass others). And then power tripping because these kids come across as believing they can dogpile someone online to get them to kowtow or delete because they've seen others do it. I especially keep seeing it happen to lesbian artists unless they draw futashit ("you only draw cis lesbians are you a
terf? would you draw a trans lesbian?" like this has been happening since 2015) and then the blogs just get abandoned or deleted as a result. I hope the artist in your screenshots just blocks them all and carries on.
It's like mass trolling because none of them are genuine since they don't actually partake in creating, nor make efforts to support artists they like, they just want to start melodrama with people who are better and more skilled than them.
On top of that, engaging with artists they don't like feeds the algorithm to show them more stuff they don't like. Twitter users are truly dumb.
No. 1903307
>>1903126>>1903139The person in the first screenshot is 33, definitely past the age to stop being dumb like this. Generally, what do people gain from commenting on art of things they don't like if it's something this inoffensive? Just mute the artist's account or blacklist the ship name, but they get off on feeling superior in some way to someone who has actual talent. Really agree with
>>1903262 that these people usually don't contribute anything and just resort to shitting on people publicly as their valuable contribution to the fandom with their epic ironic tweets. They don't make any insightful posts, or draw, or write. It's always someone who can't or doesn't even try to create anything who's posting like this.
No. 1903332
>>1903059i use the block button like there's no tomorrow. bad take? block. ugly art? block. fic i din't like? block. trans headcanon? block. being a little shit in my post notes? block.
if it's a person you can have a reasonable discussion with, im prepared to ignore some points of disagreement (you unforunately have to tolerate some level of kweerio shit).
my mutual circle is small, i occasionally interact with others but idgaf about not having a billion followers. having no qualms about blocking people has allowed me to have a smooth fandom experience.
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I want to add that I think both ships are cute and should be considered as sister ships with how similar dynamic they provide. But the fandom's too occupied canonizing a widely approved fanon.
>>1903307>>1903262The person being 30+ is disappointing but not a surprise. There were a few posts going like "I feel guilty for liking this." "I didn't know people shipped them." just shows how echo chamber-y twitter fandoms are.
>>1903272Twitter gay logic drives me so insane kek. I can see it now
>She only likes men in fiction because they're unattainable!!! Her sharing her hetero novel series she fangirls at to her girl crush is just her signaling she's so secretly gay for her!!! T4T!! No. 1903617
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Yeah I'm sure the shitty writers and show runners shoving in watered down hetero content are the exact same hetshippers in fandoms that's getting whats coming to them. Thanks for making me realize I touch enough grass for this.
No. 1903672
>>1903506>>1903549Strongly agree, not even trying to bait because this genuinely pisses me off so much I want to vent about it. Melodramatic hetshippers acting like oppressed
victims over being bullied by some teenager calling their ship shit are so pathetic it makes me cringe, imagine being so entitled and insecure that fandom spaces celebrating gay ships makes you forget that 99.5% of all mainstream media is extremely heterosexual and gender conforming and everyone has spent literal decades, including current year, telling same sex shippers they're delusional for thinking two characters might be homosexual. Honest to god I have witnessed multiple het artists have meltdowns over "feeling underrepresented" because their mediocre hetshit doesn't do as well as gay fanart instead of just getting good and genuinely thinking a blue haired LGBTAQ++++ boogeyman mob will kill them for doing the unthinkable and drawing straight content. I had to grow up with heterosexuality and heteronormativity being stuffed down my throat in both media and real life and now you're acting like babies over fandom drama nonsense. Fuck you, I also hope trannies keep ruining your fandom experience and make every M/F ship into some transmasc x transfem nightmare.
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>>1901345>>1902706Lmao maybe she should work on improving her self-insert art, like other more talented artists. That sounds like a better way to spend your energy
No. 1903699
>>1903672What's hilarious is that het ships are still VERY popular, like I see charlie and alastor everywhere and I don't even watch that show, so it's not like everyone is hating on them which makes the complaining even more ridiculous just cause a few underaged trannies talked shit
>>1903617There are good het ships, but you guys hype anything het in general including the watered down content. At least fujos seem more picky and fight with each other all the time, even haremfags have preferences but hetshippers will watch a series where every character gets a random pairing and think it's peak fiction.
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>>1903672>>1903506>>1903595This reminds me a lot of certain twitter discourses, where things are driven by spite. There are so many modern leftists who will praise objectively horrible movies that didn't perform well and had technical issues, all to "own the chuds." We saw this with Brie Larson, because online RW losers had a disproportionate hatred for her. The internet right wing fell for Hollywood's bait by making Captain Marvel the focus of another online culture war battle. wokies have no choice but to stan her. It appears to be a case of redirected despair "I can't 'win,' but I can perhaps cause some discomfort to the other party and ease my own plight by focusing on people I can imagine to be even bigger losers"
pic unrelated
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>>1903719mind you, this is what they both look like IRL btw.
No. 1903806
>>1903798I dont disagree but
>Moids normally have faceless self inserts which are more tolerable.How is it “more tolerable” when it’s no different from what you’re complaining about with the big titty waifu taking up the screen?
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>>1903798I feel like this is more of a thing with western yumes tbh, the japanese yume artists I follow mostly draw faceless or generic women to go with the guys. I find there's a lot of POV content too where the self insert is "off-screen" but the character is talking to them. I quite like it that way since the focus is entirely on the character and the viewer can imagine whatever they want
No. 1903829
>>1903059The term "fandom elder" for anyone over 25 is so weird to me, I always considered people who were in fandom since the 90s or pre-internet zines to be real elders, not people who were into Homestuck on Tumblr in 2010. But I honestly just block anyone under 21 and stick to following 30+ people that aren't high on the discourse.
>>1903506I'd agree with you, but most of the "queers" and trannies doing this are straight too. It's just spicy straight acting like they're better than normal straight people despite being equally obsessed with gender roles and PIV shit. I don't have any sympathy for either.
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>tfw I gayship, leship, hetship, and hetbend, and selfship.
I will never lose, nor never feel mad. It feels good to love a set of characters no matter their form or relationships.
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>>1903699>>1903738Lets go take a walk outside, this imaginary strawman seems to be frustrating you so much.
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>>1903059This reminds me of how I stumbled across a aph usuk tiktok, which made me nostalgic because hetalia was my first fandom in 2011 (and surprised that hetalia still has a fandom in the year 2024), but the comments were all like “this is so
problematic they’re LITERALLY brothers!!1!1!” Like… what? Like I remember back in the day some fans may have interpreted usuk as brothers, but that was far from the popular fanon interpretation. Besides, they’re fucking countries, who fucking cares. The reason why hetalia used to be so fun is because it was an extremely unserious blog/manga created by some gay ass japanese man who personified countries as homoerotic attractive young men in order to satirize western politics
No. 1904091
>>19039741. Wasn't this posted in previous threads?
2. I don't think Japan is "more creative" when its mainstream media has similar issues with same-y content like Western media, but having a wide range of perspectives does make someone a better artist/writer.
No. 1904160
>>1904097yeah that was my bad for missing the word premise, sorry about that lol. there are tons of western movies that play with the post wwii berlin setting, including romcoms though (not that beloved berlin wall is any good).
i think there is a lot of western media with creative premises, its just that they don't get the attention anime does due to, yknow, not being anime. there are lots of creative western comics and movies, especially indie ones.
No. 1904183
>>1903974I wouldn't be surprised if that were one of the reasons why, but I think it has more to do with how there's a shit ton of things getting produced and writers and artists seem to are much more likely to be given a chance to get their stories published without resorting to nepotism even if there's sometimes a lot of competition, which would mean that there would be more variety and points of views. And then you have a bunch of TV shows, manga, video games, etc. made for a lot of different target demographics, while in the West, especially in the US, you have Hollywood monopolizing everything, most people think comics are almost only capeshit, and video games were usually marketed as for cool, hardcore boys only. The thing about comics doesn't apply to Europe btw.