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No. 1962884

Post about your employment status, successes, woes, anxieties, rants, etc.

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No. 1962890

Does anyone here have an art career? Not the fanart commissions type, the one you go to school for

No. 1962941

I know this is a broad question, but is the tech industry to oversaturated to enter now?
It's like there's been a huge boom in popularity for tech careers the past year.

No. 1963292

>>1962941
I think it's more that the industry has contracted as a result of lower investments due to the interest rate hike over the last 2 years. A lot of startups/tech companies are not profitable and have been kept alive purely through investments.

No. 1963299

>>1962941
No technology is a thing of the past

No. 1963352

>>1963299
Elaborate please

No. 1963707

Am the only woman at a 1 month old establishment, don't think management thought about gender when hiring, just chose solid candidates. We are small, and I like my molleagues on the whole, but every so often I lose it because there is this sense that 'the men are talking', and I feel completely invisible. How do I deal with this? It's like they can barely look me in the eye sometimes. I don't know how I can bring this up in a way that will be at all heard.

No. 1963711

>>1962890
No, but I went to school for Fine Art, and pretty much never had any hope of pursuing it as a career because it is so, so nepotistic and dirty as an industry. My best advice would be to find something adjacent such as management and integrate from there.

No. 1963761

>>1962890
I work as a graphic designer and grt paid well, if you count that as an art career. I do illustration work on the side and occasionally get to integrate it with client work.

No. 1963994

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>>>/ot/1801622
Quoting bc post is in another thread:
>i work as a software developer and i hate coding. it’s so repetitive and tedious and i suck at it. i feel too stupid to have this job. i feel like i spend all day asking for help from my colleagues. i regret getting a compsci degree i want to rip my hair out god

How long have you worked as a software dev? It does get easier, though it doesn't really get better imo.

I'm past the painful "overreliance on others" phase, but I still constantly feel like I'm forcing myself to do something that I have no natural aptitude for. It's difficult for me not to feel extremely regretful, even though I'm really lucky that I'm able to perform my job satisfactorily well, that I get paid a decent amount and don't work long hours, and that I get to be fully remote.

I actually switched to CS on a bit of a whim after working in medicine a bit and realizing that I did not want to put myself through the rigor of med school just so I could be trapped in a high-responsibility and high-stress career by a mountain of debt. I ended up finding my CS degree substantially more emotionally taxing than doing a bio degree with pre-med stuff, but I chalked this up to the fact that my school's CS program was considered very good while the bio one was just middling. I imagined deluded myself into thinking that working at a corporation would be somewhat chill, and that I just had to make it through school, and I'd be alright. Working isn't quite as intense as school was, but the deadlines are never-ending, my least favorite parts of doing the degree are now my job, my coworkers are all male and are either afraid to interact with me or subtly flirtatious, and I now have to deal with a bunch of corporate nonsense.

You're always "learning," but this isn't usually learning about computer architecture, infrastructure, or programming languages. You're learning only as much of the cool and generally useful stuff as you need to scrape by while you instead dedicate most of your workweek and energy to memorizing the details of a sprawling, complex, and impossibly shitty machine cobbled together by people who often are even more confused and retarded than you are. And when that piece of shit has problems (and it constantly has problems), you are the authority on it, and you have to grit your teeth and take ownership of it and prostrate yourself before upset coworkers, even when you're given 0 resources to improve it. This shit seriously makes me feel like I am wasting my life.

I'm really not sure how long I want to stick it out. I'm not happy, and I feel like I am just not very naturally oriented towards tech and programming. I can do it just fine, but it requires immense effort on my part, and I feel like I'm a square peg forcing myself into a round hole, shredding off my corners every day by coming up with 1,000 coping strategies to get myself to be able to focus on work that I quite frankly find boring, exhausting, meaningless, and somewhat stressful.

Yet despite my struggles, the pay and QoL disparity between tech and everything else is so massive that I can't imagine that switching to a career in something like medicine would make me appreciably happier. I currently spend my workday being miserable, and I can't work on any personal projects, but at least I have the physical energy to cook and do chores. I don't have to waste a ton of time with a commute. I don't get that much time off, but I don't have to worry about getting my shift covered or anything. And I make more money than most people my age could dream of. (Unfortunately, it's not so much that I could both own a house and retire early, and I can't use it to travel any time soon because I can't afford a gap in my resume in this hyper-competitive job market.)

I feel like I'm in limbo and waiting for it to get better, for me to be able to reclaim the confidence and free time that I had when I was in college doing pre-med. But I don't see any clear path that would make it better, besides lucking out with one of those remote jobs where you do hardly any work. I feel so shitty and entitled for not being happy with what I have, but I am so frustrated that I have worked so hard, and I feel like this is the best life I can feasibly get.

This turned into quite the rant, but yeah. I'm sure some anons can commiserate.

No. 1964059

>>1963994
Just started a new tech job ( >>1961390 ) and I feel the same way, roughly. Except I'm the sole tech hire, I'm working on everything alone, my set up is weird because I have to speak to the company we outsource hell desk work to if I want to install anything (and they're retarded and difficult), etc. etc. etc. but the pay is great. My boss is cool. I get my own office, benefits are amazing, etc. etc. I could go on and on.

No. 1964370

I'm looking up articles about quiet quitting and quiet firing at my job, idgaf anymore.

No. 1964400

>>1964370
How is it going?

No. 1964408

>>1962941
YES.
If you're thinking of going to undergrad for CS then the problem will probably clear by the time you graduate. If you're looking into doing a boot camp or a career path that isn't related to programming, project management, or possibly UX design then forget it. Even experienced workers are having trouble finding jobs right now and new grads are screwed.

No. 1964447

>>1964400
It's making me feel justified. I should even come to the office with my 3DS and keep playing as soon as I'm done with the bare minimum. I'm seriously starting to suspect that the IT problems that started more than a month ago that's preventing everyone from working from home is done on purpose.

No. 1964453

>>1964408
nta but is the oversaturation going to last though? Our increasingly digital world that needs to be programmed by someone is going nowhere right? (I'm not into tech, just curious)

No. 1964498

>>1964471
How come? I don't know but my company has been kinda weird lately. These IT issue started as soon as my manager left for a month on sick leave for surgery, and the managers who started replacing her aren't even in our city. One is even in another country and harassing me with plenty of useless meetings to tell me how to do my job because I'm behind everyone in terms of kpis. Which happened because my team was shortstaffed, again. But the HR decided to not renew the contract of a guy I trained who worked very well for a year and a half so they would hire someone abroad who could be way less expensive. Now they're realizing this was a terrible idea way too late and I'm having fun making all these managers realize how retarded they are until my own manager comes back. My coworkers are sick of this shit too but I've had these issues for longer. Basically I think everyone thinks we're a bunch of retards who need to be micromanaged all the time so they don't want us to work from home anymore. New employees have a different contract that states they can only work from home after 6 months in the company and their first contract lasts 6 months so this is what makes the most sense imo.

No. 1964539

>>1964453
I think it will go through it's highs and lows, but I don't think "Just do this bootcamp for 6 months and you got a dev job" and "CS student getting a 6 figure job before even graduating" is coming back any time soon.

No. 1964601

I know this is a long shot.. but are there any fields/jobs that earn above average incomes and you can learn on your own in your free time or follow paid retraining programs for? What programming used to be like >>1964539 said I guess. Do blue collar jobs earn better now that everyone is over-educated and there's a shortage for them?

I went to school for my current job and I enjoy it, it's a comfy office job that feels meaningful, it earns me a stable enough living, but I realized I won't be able to make it out of the renting market on a single income in this field. Just wondering what my options are without going back to university full-time which isn't an option.

No. 1964628


No. 1965565

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Just started a job today and it's already exhausting. I feel poorly trained, and I am standing all day as a cashier. I dont mind that part of the job, but I am brand new to this system and don't know how the cafeteria food in this building works. So I have to ring people out for the correct amount or I can accidently over or under charge them. Like my trainer was nice, but she felt too busy to properly train me. I am hoping I am over thinking this, since it was day 1.
I have to be there at 6am, which sucks a lot. Other than that, the job itself isnt the worst. However, they have a ZERO PHONE policy, where I have to leave my phone in my car. I cant even bring it inside the building. The other locker that i put it in is half a block away and so for lunch, I either get to eat or spend the time running to get my phone from 2 buildings away.

I'm not gonna lie, nonnies, I am already dreading the rest of the week. I dont mind not using my phone for work, but to not even be allowed to have it in the same building i am in?? It's a little too much for under $18 an hour…

No. 1966042

>>1965565
If you have your lunch outside you can just put your phone in your bag, in a small pouch if neccesary, what are they going to do, search your bag like it's an airport?

Anyway look for something better while you work this job. I worked in administration for a while when I didn't have any qualifications and felt over and done with slaving away at manual labour jobs, might be worth looking into if you want to get something that's more comfy.

No. 1966052

I think my boss wants me to train the team in Python now that I’ve proved it’s useful to the job. My issue with this is that being the only person in office who knows Python makes me very useful. And it’s Python. A programming language. It’s not like I’m doing anything particularly complicated but if you all could pick it up then you would’ve picked it up long before I came in. Just let me do what I was paid for and let everyone else do what they were paid for.

No. 1966182

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ive been trying to get internships or a job now that im about to graduate and ive had very little luck every application is just getting sent into the aether. This job that seemed promising is now ghosting me. I dont think i have too shitty of a resume for a new grad. I have a bit of experience and a few certifications. this is so ass

No. 1966457

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Is learning javascript programming going to be worth it?
On one hand I'm good at basic computer shit and love autistic tedious tasks; and it seems fun so far.
But the other hand is that I'm nervous about how people say Computer science is a saturated field. The outsourcing as well as the new AI shit doesn't help either, as well as the mass lay offs.

All I want is a basic bitch office job but I feel like the only ones open are front desk receptionist and dealing with customers already sucks (especially boomers, its always older people throwing massive shit fits- I don't even think I met a karen/kevin who's under 40 years old).


Also during interviews, people suggest to lie about diversity so that you can get hired more easily. But I'm also seeing people say that they don't hire people with they/them pronouns and openly say that companies find them too hostile for the work environment. Everything is polarized and I don't know wtf the reality is anymore.

No. 1966503

Have you guys ever used chatgpt and other models to help you narrow down a career path? Or use it at work?

No. 1966509

>>1966042
I'm tempted to bring a bag with my phone but they are a high security place and I'm worried they'll fire me if I use my phone on site. It's insane since I have to use my ID to go through a scanner. I'm worried the scanner will pick up the phone and then I'll get in trouble. They have a super strict no phone policy for every single person that works there. It's definitely easier to find a new job at this point.

I timed myself today at lunch and it takes 5 mins to run to the first builder to get my phone from my locker, so I can only use it on lunch, not even break. Not even subtracting the minutes I spend getting to the time clock area, which is at the back of the kitchen. Place is wild. When will they learn taking away people's phones is really unreasonable? I dont even work in the security dept, just the cafeteria.

No. 1966899

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Nonnas my field finally has 3 spots open after waiting more than 6 months for an opening! If I don't get a spot I'll probably sign up for the navy or something.

>>1966503
I used chatGPT to clean up my CV by ordering it to make certain sections sound smarter. It just another tool that provides you with support and answers, as long as you know what to ask.

No. 1966989

>>1966899
Good luck to you anon, and to all the anons job hunting right now!

No. 1967013

Anyone know the best way to get out of retail right now, for someone that has worked the same retail job for the better part of this decade? What is something in high-demand that would be fairly easy to find a job in after getting an associates? There is nothing I particularly want to do, and I think I will miss my current job to some extent (I have been looking at jobs with a similar focus that I could use my experience for), but it's time for me to move on.

No. 1967018

>>1967013
I'm looking into getting an administrative job. Just gotta brush up on your excel skills maybe. I'm literally so exhausted from my new job that is menial labor, where I am on my feet 7.5 hours with only one break. I hope you get out of retail hell, nonnie

No. 1967077

>>1967013
That specifically require an associates? Nursing and allied health. But you don't need an associates to leave retail…

No. 1967121

>>1967013
Sales? But be careful because sales jobs are very often scams or 100% commission, so stick to reputable companies that pay a salary

No. 1967428

Any accountants / bookkeepers here? Do you like your job? I'm thinking about going back to school for this. Would be nice to get a position for the government, though my impression is that such jobs are harder to come by than more arduous public accounting positions. I know I would be very good at it. I'm not passionate about it, but I'd prefer it to something like programming, and I like being able to have a specific task and consistent directive as opposed to the 24/7 multitasking and intense amount of socialization and communication I am responsible for now. Working at a retail establishment without a functioning manager while sometimes operating as the ersatz backbone of the store is exhausting.

No. 1967853

>start job on the 27th of last month
>so i’ve been here a few weeks
>boss sends out mass email advising us to take a few vacation days because we’re entering our busy period soon
>but i’ve only been here a few weeks
would it…would it be wrong to take a day or two? i’m so new that it seems gauche but kek i dunno

No. 1967887

>>1967853
How long is the busy period supposed to be? If it's a full quarter or more, a day sounds fine, especially if you're new enough that you can't do much if too many coworkers are out.

No. 1967891

>>1967013
I'm also looking for this, but I've been out of work 6 months and graduated last year. At this point I may just look at a retail job again first and find something better while I'm at the other job. Stagnating around the house is poisoning me. But I'm totally afraid I'm gonna bomb interviews because my months of isolation I've felt have made me so socially inept. I just can't deal with a remote job nonnies, I need stimulation

No. 1967904

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What kind of job can I do if I have no degree and no real skills?

I did a lot of random shit over the last 15 years. Administration, book keeping, logistics, tech support, retail etc.. I also finished a few tech related courses but I'm still so new I can't apply as dev + there are absolutely 0 tech jobs where I am and moving isn't an option.

I feel completely lost because I wanted to go into tech but the market is so oversaturated and compared to someone with a degree no one would hire me. People keep telling me to get out of the country because I can speak multiple languages but what's the point if I have no skills?

No. 1968153

>>1967904
a completely retarded they/them i know who got fired from kotaku for posting dumb, shitty articles about racism (not actual serious racism just how dare this white person wear braids) landed a job at mihoyo simply because she can speak chink fluently. i think if you seem personable enough and are trainable you’ll get picked up as a polyglot

No. 1968533

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I periodically have to remind myself that my boss isn't my friend, and my "work friends" aren't my friends either. This isn't to say that I've been trauma dumping or open book-ing at work or anything, it's more I've been letting myself get very stressed out over acts I parse as "betrayal" or "unfair assignments from someone I thought to be a great manager who considered my time and emotional stability (lol)." And, logically speaking, they are good managers – these are objectively the best bosses I've had thus far – they just aren't my pals and don't otherwise have my good interest at heart past ensuring I can turn them a profit. And I mean, they do, but if they feel they can push me and I won't quite snap they will.

I'm not mad, I'm just processing. I'm really unused to the (proper) corpo world so it's jarring to run into these situations. If any of this makes sense or even gets read by anyone else do general vents about work even go here? Should I have posted in vent?.

I can't wait until Friday. Hopefully Thursday goes by in a blur and Friday follows suit. Everyone does fuck-all on Fridays here.

No. 1968591

>>1968533
I feel the same way. I have a hard time navigating the whole thing, as I get rather paranoid about the whole dynamic. I get along with and have shared interests with my boss, but he's kind of a weird guy and it's very hard for me to tell what he's thinking.
He often proposes that me, him, and another coworker play video games together in our free time, and I don't know what to make of it. I really don't want to be cynical about it, and on one hand I'm not, but I feel myself get way more emotionally attached than I'm comfortable with if I assume that he really just wants to foster relationships on my (admittedly very asocial) team. So in a way, it's easier for me to think that he's just approaching teambuilding in a manipulative but benign table-tennis-in-the-lunchroom way, but that just causes me to build resentment towards him and the general fakeness of corporate culture. However, we do have some good and genuine conversations, so it's hard for me not to run a little wild with that and want to open up and be understood by him, as mutual understanding and really getting to know a person is something that I value a ton, personally.

Ugh. I've gotten decently good at maintaining a certain distance, but I find doing it extremely emotionally unsatisfying. My bf has great, actual friendships with his coworkers, including his boss, and I'm so envious.

Also, I'm glad you posted here. No hate towards the job-seekers, but I mostly come here to try to get a feel for how people similar to myself are adjusting to entering the workforce full-time.

No. 1969125

>>1967013
I don't think this is a bad idea. You should try for a grocery store job at an upscale grocer. I always thought that sounded comfy and would try to apply for those positions before I got hired at my current store. Stocking shelves and meeting quotas seems like a fun little game.

No. 1969155

>>1967013

Samefag but I think I'm gonna go back to school (associates), with the goal of getting a government office specialist job. Sucks that it would look bad optics wise to get a new job now, if I intend to go back to school anyway. I don't want to ruin my streak of experience at one place (this is the longest I've held down a job), but I'm so tired of retail and all the stuff I must contend with at my store on a daily basis.

No. 1969158

>>1969125
Sorry, meant to reply to >>1967013

No. 1969280

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Has anyone made a move on a someone at work that you don’t work with (and don’t even know the name of)? How do you do it?

No. 1975771

Any advice for decent, legit remote jobs that can be done without any credentials? I'm going to be moving between countries twice this year so I am really hoping for a job that I can do from anywhere, but there are so many dubious wfh postings and I have no idea how to get picked when it seems like everyone and their dog also wants to work from home. I don't care what it is as long as there's consistent pay and it's not like something illegal or sexual, obviously, I have no college degree so I can't be picky. I just need a job…

No. 1976455

Mandatory company luncheon tomorrow and I don’t want to go. Especially since it’s BBQ and if shifts my usual lunch period to about an hour earlier, which means my day won’t be neatly bisected into two. This is objectively and subjectively the best job I’ve ever had, so complaining about it feels spoiled and silly but shit I can’t help it. I do not want to get picked at by nosy and bored coworkers reeee

No. 1976473

>>1975771

Have you tried Data annotation? It's boring work but they do pay, you have to pass the verification.

No. 1976498

Fuck this industry. There are fewer projects to work on, and others are being postponed to next year or the following year. I don't know where I want to work anymore, but I just want stability. Why does finding a suitable career have to be difficult? It doesn't help that we are in a recession or heading towards one or whatever these damn analysts call it. Nonas, I just hope it gets better. I feel miserable.

No. 1980957

I'm giving up on finding an office position now, and just applied for a janitor position in a hospital. Even though I got a degree in stuff dealing with business and computers, my social anxiety has ramped up so much over the past year that I literally cannot speak without stuttering. I wish this was a joke. When I had just turned 20ish I was fine, no stuttering, I could drive places and talk to people. Now I can barely leave my room and I stutter when speaking. I don't know what happened to me. Well, my anxiety is a lot worse and I'm sure being a shut in has put the nail in the coffin for me socially.
Anyways, I hope just getting a janitor position can help me get outside enough that I stop feeling so anxious about leaving the house and stuff. I also hope I don't have to talk to a lot of people. The job is in the hospital though. Has anyone else ever worked in a hospital like this before? Is it miserable? Is there anything I should say in a job interview there?

No. 1981489

>>1980957
You can try doing remote interviews just as practice with no intention of getting hired but if you happen to do so then that would be great. Even if you don't progress any of the applications, doing a number of online interviews you will find yourself improving gradually from one to the next. It could help get you acclimated to talking to people again

No. 1981785

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I'm fucking done with retarded corpo shit. Ever since I worked in a call center I just can't deal with the fakness that comes with a corporate setting, everyone is just smiling and lying. My fuse has become too short for this shit but I still have to interview with HR morons that are the same if I want to get a job anywhere.

The most recent stupid thing that happened in my job search:
>IT specialist job ad
>find out during the interview none of the work I'd do would be even remotely IT related

Why waste everyone's time like this? Just write you're looking for a fucking secretary or some shit oh my god. I wish I was actually skilled enough to be able to directly tell these people to go fuck themselves.

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it finally happened! i quit my hotel job in January because it was abusive as hell, and ive finally been able to pull my old work bestie away from there as well and she has a may 7 start date at my current place! she's texting me about everyone's reactions to her leaving and its like i get to vicariously quit the hotel all over again through her. that place has pushed out all of its decent workers in the past year because anyone pulling their weight makes the managers feel bad about themselves. im so glad to have "rescued" her from there so now i can really say fuck that place w/o feeling guilty

No. 1983623

Has anyone benefited from networking or job seeking groups and seminars? I'm trying to spice up my LinkedIn and get a more professional job, but I got my associates last year, have only worked retail jobs prior and have a 7 month gap on my record from when I fell into a mental breakdown and had medical scares. I'm thinking I could benefit from those seminars only because I've been in a rut and I'm not prepared to interview for a fancier job or internship yet without some pointers, and I'd like to network and meet people.

No. 1984166

>>1983623
yes going to a conference helped me a lot but admittedly because i knew a girl working at the place i now work at who was also there and she told the boss who decided to give me a second chance after i was rejected two weeks after my first interview. it also helps that the girl they hired instead of me kept getting caught in lies and turns out she had a court date coming up for the next county over… who knew govt jobs don't always do a background check? unfortunately networking and serendipity go hand in hand i guess. but if you really want the job putting conferences/seminars on a resume definitely can't hurt as it shows interest. networking/job fairs are always good too, why not try and give it a shot

No. 1984168

>>1983623
samefag but if it helps i landed the exact job i wanted by shadowing + showing interest + going to a conference a now-coworker was at (i didn't know when i enrolled). i am only now graduating with my undergrad degree (it's literally a general studies degree too kek) and one previous job that is only somewhat related for five years. networking and luck are literally everything in my experience.

No. 1984949

>>1983403
Congrats nonna! I'm so happy that you two get to work together again. You won.
>>1969280
Don't. People still talk.

No. 1984953

Has anyone here done bartending? I'm 23 and am thinking about getting into it but I don't have a lot of experience working with alcohol.

No. 1984956

>>1969280
Don't. I did this and its not worth it.

No. 1985015

>>1984953
Yes. It's a fine job. Bottle/shot bars are the easiest. Learning how to mix a cocktail or pretending to care about craft beer or wine isn't that hard either. It's one of those jobs where if you learn how to do it right you naturally get fast at doing the work, but if you rush while you're learning you'll fuck up a lot later. Remember that every little bit of booze adds up at a bar and it all equals money; over-pouring will make your boss hate you and upselling will make your boss like you.
Hours are bad, not good for your health. Do not under any circumstance get in the habit of having drinks with coworkers after your shift is over, that is how you piss away all your money. Drinking after work will also destroy your sleep hygiene. People working in F&B disproportionately have drug and alcohol problems, it's not a baseless stereotype, do not pick up a coke habit or anything retarded.
Ask the existing staff how tips work before you step on toes. There might be a tip splitting system or a tipout system for bar-backs, dishwashers, servers, etc. Find out. You could be owed tips from servers for pouring/mixing drinks for their tables, you want to know that sort of thing.

No. 1985047

>>1984168
Thank you nona you give me hope. I graduated with an associates and was considering transferring to a diff university to do my bachelors this year since I think I will probably need one but I'd like to go to these things to meet people and see if I can slam my foot in the door and make an impression somehow. I'm in a tight spot and sick and tired of being unemployed but I want something better than the retail jobs I've had, one of which I stayed at for nearly 6 years. If all else fails I'll get another retail job and work through my bachelors and make connections there but I'm holding out that I'm not completely lost socially and networking will come through for me

No. 1985084

>>1985015
You are amazing, thank you nonnie. I appreciate you!

No. 1985291

nonnies who work in tech, which is valued more? Associate degree or certs like Comptia or Google?
I'm looking at getting certs (working on degree rn) but not sure if it's as required as entry level job listings make it seem

No. 1985321

>>1985291
assuming you're talking about IT, I got an associate's and ended up needing to get A+ certification anyways even though my degree taught me far beyond that level. It's a hard requirement for most entry-level jobs (and yes, even with degree only the most basic entry jobs would take me without experience). Also I've been told many times that years of working help desk trumps a degree or certs every time in this field, basically only reason to get a degree is because some schools are partnered with companies that scout new hires from the graduates. For my school, that was an AI company who made you take specific AI classes for a job and I don't want to work with AI so it was basically useless
Finish your degree since you're already doing it and it won't hurt, but if I could do it all over I'd get A+, maybe Net+ or Security+, practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCs so I have something to put on the resume, and then start looking for a super entry level tech support job. Easier said than done since getting hired with no experience is hell, but doesn't that go for all fields? Also if your school has an IT or programming club join that, recruiters love that stuff. I don't think getting a degree helped at all tbh and spending that time working would've done more for me.

No. 1985331

>>1985321
Thank you I shall take your words to heart
>practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCs
That's already my hobby 24/7 kek so I wouldn't have trouble there
Gonna sound nitpicky but my biggest filter for me is all the really specific details like what voltage on your laser printer balls or whatever other nonsense.
I know why they question it, it's just annoying to memorize but that's another issue entirely outside of getting certs

No. 1985352

I'm currently job-hunting, but am the type to literally never wear makeup (tried it less than 5 times previously). I've been doing it for interviews but I"m worried that I'm so fucking inept at it that I'm just making myself look worse/stupid.

Should I skip makeup entirely or does it still really matter to put in the effort?

No. 1985356

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I hate how long getting a job actually takes. 1 month of waiting for them to close the application window, weeks for them to read everything, more weeks or potentially months for them to respond and set up an interview and then waiting for vetting to clear, all while you're jobless.

>>1985352
I think it depends on the job and how clean/healthy you look. Clean and moisturised nails, tidy hair and fitting clothing should look professional enough, but tinted lip balm and neat eyebrows will elevate it.

No. 1985410

Nonnies I had a great interview today, I feel like I really connected with the hiring manager. Would it be bad form to send a connect request on LinkedIn?

No. 1985413

Why is finding a weekend job so fucking hard??? I'm also disgusted at how low pay so many minimum wage jobs have for FULL TIME positions, granted i am not looking at those jobs. How do people live like that and how can anyone think that wage is acceptable for a full grown adult?

No. 1985415

Any law adjacent employees here? id love to hear your stories. Considering becoming a paralegal.

No. 1985418

>>1985410
Id start with a thank you email for the interview!

No. 1985442

>>1985415
I’m a legal assistant currently. I would say it’s a good job at the beginning of your career, but if you don’t intend to go law school, it’s kind of a dead end. If you are interested in law school, definitely work at a law firm first though. So many attorneys are miserable people because they chased money and prestige and aren’t cut out for the 60+ hour work weeks many of them are expected to work

No. 1985459

>>1985442
Law nona, some advice please. I'm in criminology as my hobby degree and I really enjoy it but our teacher tells us to pursue a law degree after wards (which would take me 2 years because many classes overlap) otherwise seeking employment will be hard. Is there truth to this?

No. 1985515

>>1985352
I don't wear makeup to interviews or the office either and I know at least a few other women in my workplace who don't (though of course there are more that do). So long as you look presentable, groom yourself and dress appropriately you should be fine. Makeup is not part of grooming unless you're like a flight attendant or something

No. 1985559

>>1985459
I'm not legal assistant anon, but I have a friend with a criminology degree. She's had real bad luck finding work after finishing school. It's been a couple years. Feels bad.

No. 1985664

Any suggestions for summer jobs for students that are office or WFH based? Or otherwise don't involve manual labour all day?

No. 1985668

>>1985664
Call center

No. 1985681

>>1985668
Don't listen to this post. Call center is one of the worst jobs out there.

No. 1985685

>>1985681
>>1985668
I worked for a call centre during the pandemic, making appointments for vaccinations. That was a pretty chill job. When people say call centre jobs are terrible, do you mean outbound only or is that also true for most inbound call centres?

No. 1985697

>>1985685
Nta but outbound call centres are the worst!! Inbound is not that bad just sometimes you get people who ring up to moan but outbound you are basically paid to harass people so they all hate you when you ring, don't do outbound

No. 1985721

>>1985681
It's ok as a summer job because you'll leave right before it becomes unbearable but it also depends on what the calls are to begin with too.

No. 1985872

>>1985442
Thanks sweet nonna!

No. 1985881

Currently pursuing my Bachelors of Law, finishing my first year. Any advice?

No. 1985926

>>1985459
Ayrt, I didn’t study in criminology, so I’m not really sure, sorry nonna. I double majored in political science and history. Humanities seems to be a fairly common prelaw track since it’s a lot of reading and writing. But honestly it doesn’t matter too much what you studied undergrad—what matters most is getting a good gpa and doing well on the lsat so you can get into a top 10 law school. The law field is very elitist, and it does matter where you studied at

No. 1986060

I'm in an interview process that's taking so damn long, it's been a month already and there's still another last step next week plus another week for them to tell me if I've passed. Granted that it's an enormous tech company but still, is that even normal? For my curent job I think that it took me not even a month from application to getting hired, I'm climbing up the walls with anxiety.

No. 1986087

>>1985685
NTA but all call centres are soul sucking. Outbound call centres are their own special circle of hell, but inbound ones aren't great either. You always get customers calling to bitch about their order because one item is two shades off what they saw online or complain that they have defective internet because they can't connect their books to their Kindle. You get customers threatening suicide to see if they can get away with not paying bills. You get retards who rant at you because they dialed the wrong number and it's your fault somehow. It's doable if you don't give a shit but it does get to you.
Outbound call centres, not even once.

No. 1986109

>>1985685
I'll be real with you. I work at a call center that requires inbound/outbound calls, but it's related to mental health and welfare resources. It can be absolutely great and fulfilling, but most of the time I feel like the whipping person for the state. I get to take all the abuse from people frustrated about how the government is run.

No. 1986149

>>1985685
inbound is terrible as well, but it greatly depends on with whom you're working. when I did enterprise technical support over the phone, I worked mostly with businessmen and technicians who were always really pleasant to talk to. Working customer service for a bougie skin-care company was a completely different story…

No. 1986153

>>1966457
A bit of a late response but in my experience there will always be work for people who can actually code and can communicate well. There's so many turboautists and morons who try to use ChatGPT for everything polluting the candidate pool and that's why it seems like the field is saturated. My company's had a tech position open for years and had probably hundreds of candidates apply but most of them are filtered out by the most basic of programming tests or can't control their autism enough to pass an interview if they do succeed.
My company wouldn't hire a they/them in a thousand years but we're a small business. A large business might have drunk the Kool-Aid and pick up a they/them diversity hire. It probably depends who you're applying to.

No. 1986155

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Ugh, all the signs of targeted layoffs have hit my org. The chances that I'd be cut are slim but I also wouldn't be totally shocked if the entire org were wiped out. Tech needs to stop shitting the bed.

No. 1986160

>>1985685
I don't work at a call centre but do take some inbound calls as part of my job. It's not that bad if the people calling are other businesses since they usually know their shit before they pick up the phone and are less likely to be a pain in the ass than dealing with the general public. We do have some annoying ass people that call here that we all hate but for the most part it's not too bad. I find the shitty coworkers who slack off and don't take their calls more aggravating than the customers tbh

No. 1986195

Anybody had any experience with catalog modeling? I think I have the right body/face for it, and I know I'd have to reach out to some agencies, but IS it worthwhile? Will it wreck my health?

No. 1986321

>>1986155
>Tech needs to stop shitting the bed
It isn't though. It's exploding. You're just feeling the repercussions of your own labor as AI replaces everyone whose job requires a low level of cognition.

No. 1986490

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i accidentally missed one of my shifts cause i read my schedule wrong now as punishment my job isn’t going to be scheduling me. i’ve never missed a day of work, i always show up on time etc i feel like this is a little outrageous of a “punishment” i know my manager doesn’t really like me but do any nonas have similar experiences? i work at a retail mall clothing store so it might be different

No. 1986545

>>1986490
This happens to me (i do flagging) and honestly just work for someone else or be straight up about it. Theyre fucking with your pay and thats NOT ok.

No. 1986910

I just hate working. I loathe it. I hate how burnt out I get from it. Every time I feel I'm hitting a good work/life balance, the exhaustion starts. I only have 3-4 months of hard work in me at a time, and then I just completely check out. Fuck existence, being forced to partaking in working makes me want to off myself.

No. 1986911

>>1986321
You clearly have no experience with or perspective into the industry.

No. 1987525

Sick of the fucking job search. I've made it to the final interview twice now. Someone said that perhaps I need to be more friendly (I'm autistic). Well, I'll keep it in mind, but now I'm not even getting interviews.

No. 1988015

My internship used to be pretty okay and I used to be able to learn things, but since the company entered a more intense phase of some big organisational changes, it became so fucking awful. I alternate between having nothing to do because I need several people to get back to me (and they don't, so I need to spam them) to having way too many vague tasks at once, and most of them aren't in my actual job description. Everyone is stressed, so many people are leaving, the team gets blamed by higher ups despite not being in charge of any of the things that are going wrong (but shareholders don't care and giving us additional, stupid work makes them happy!). I don't have a job lined up after this but I constantly consider quitting before my contract actually ends because this is such a shitty, anxiety-inducing experience and I'm tired of having to pretend I'm having a good time. I feel so sorry for the people who planned to keep working here for years and are getting fucked over by all the changes, too.

No. 1988026

>>1985685
I had to do inbound for a couple years at my medical office job, until calls were redirected to an actual call center because the number of them was overwhelming. It is hell, people are very mentally unhinged in any job where you work with the public in person too but they act out way more on the phone. I had to hang up some calls because they were so mental. You also get a lot of people who think you have all the time in the world trauma dumping on you while you're running on a clock. This doesn't happen as frequently in person because they feel the pressure of everyone else waiting in line and staring, but on call they can't feel it so they dc.

It gave me phone anxiety and I seriously don't miss it, I can't imagine outbound or doing sales. I'd probably crumple up and die.

No. 1989433

>overhear boss speaking to the contractor guy who used to hold my position
>”if she doesn’t work out, we’ll definitely be in touch!”
uhh should i be worried

No. 1989621

>>1983623
Samefag. Went to a job seeking group and it was helpful. Nobody in my industry unfortunately but everyone was so nice and supportive, and I'll be going back next week and to a couple more events. I may try and find a temp job to earn some extra cash in the meantime as well so I guess that'd be back to the retail grind for a bit but it's less soul sucking than being at home and feeling hopeless. For the first time in a long time I feel a little spark of confidence in myself.

No. 1990281

This is kind of random but can my job refuse to give me my paper paycheck during work hours? It’s something I always do when I finish all my orders, but today they refused and told me to come back when I am off the clock. Idk the whole exchange made me kinda salty

No. 1990307

>>1989433
>if
No you shouldn't be worried, just do the job 1% above the work you expect to put in and you may very well be better than the previous guy

No. 1991587

>>1986153
>My company's had a tech position open for years and had probably hundreds of candidates apply but most of them are filtered out by the most basic of programming tests

Are there positions out there for front-end development at least? I'm not smart enough to handle security and shit.

No. 1992610

Looking for a new job after my moid of a boss told me to 'shut the fuck up' because I was telling him I was displeased he got a temporary worker to take MY overtime. I didn't want to work this weekend but he should have given me the option instead. He told me 'not to worry about it' but WTF?

No. 1992962

>>1992610
Now he's making me do OT even though there's nothing to do and the temp is also doing OT rn. Fml

No. 1993477

>>1986490
update kek. they called me and ended up firing me. apparently i had 3 other upn violations (what the fuck even are those??) and that was the 4th one so they had to terminate me. this is retarded

No. 1993494

Is it normal for my body to be rigid after work? It hurts all over, like i've been keeping my muscles taut the whole day. I wonder if it's due to subconscious anxiety? And so instead of showing it onoutside, your body processes it inwards? It doesn't feel good…

No. 1994178

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Nonas i think i'm going insane, i need to leave my ghost city but i need to find a job to save money to do it.
The issue is that this place has nothing but family owned supermarkets and bars, there are some private doctors, saloons, one weird doorknob shop, one tailoring shop, some schools, some flower shops, even the hospital is failing even though i'm supposed to live in an important city.
It's a complete ghost town, any shop that opens closes, everytime i could find a job was somewhere out but i couldn't keep up with it because the train and bus services suck here.
I'd appreciate any tip but i'm really considering just looking for something online but i'm not sure what i have to look for, i thought that maybe after covid there would be more things like that but is it possible to get something stable out of it? I like to draw in my part time but i really want to keep that for other projects i have and not commissions.
I feel so awful, i've moved here since i was a kid and not even my mother could find a job here, my father worked in another city but ofc he had to leave my family.

No. 1994201

>>1994178
I recommend getting an online job to save up some money. Commissions can be good, but you would only be drawing the most degenerate porn so keep that in mind. It would be better to get something in customer service and save up a little money, then you can move to a big city and get an in person job.
Once you get to the big city, hotels are an easy starter job, but nursing homes normally also need people to make beds and bring the patients snacks. Worst case scenario, fast food is always hiring. You'll have to start out with several roommates (try to shoot for only female roommates), but as things get better and you get a better job, you'll make money and be able to move to better neighborhoods.

No. 1994293

>>1994201
>Commissions can be good, but you would only be drawing the most degenerate porn so keep that in mind.
What even kek… You can do commissions and not do any porn, it's not an issue.

No. 1994303

>>1994293
Not true. Porn gets the best highly paid commissions unfortunately, she should shoot for the furry community

No. 1994420

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I have an interview for an internship at a museum, my coworkers are already talking like I've bagged it but if I don't get this it will crush my soul

No. 1994628

I finally got a high paying job after 1.5 years of either getting ghosted or rejected, but I'm so nervous about fucking it up. My role is high intermediate/low senior and while it's nice to get a pretty good salary (40% increase) I hope I can survive the probation period. It's only the third week and man, I'm feeling some heat already, whether that is my own personal pressure or company pressure or both.

No. 1994923

Im losing my job at the end of the month, It's because the company is losing money but of course there is no accountability for how the money has been spent on useless digital tools or even worse, useless higher paid staff. We have one member of staff paid the highest in my team and all they do is write a newsletter once a month. Another, at the same level as newsletter staff doesn't even do half of their job because, and I quote, 'they don't like doing it' and they just get away with it. They're so top heavy as an organisation it's crazy.

I was told my job was chosen due to what it says on my job description, on paper, so anything I've actually done or gone above and beyond for never mattered. It's so shit. Now I have to start the job search all over again.

No. 1994924

We received an update status on the company two days ago, because our department couldn't attend the meeting three weeks ago (due to illnesses and people's days off, we were only two out of six in our team that work with customers face to face and had to be there to… y'know, do our fecking job).
CEO complains in the status update about staff costs being 2,6 million in our company which my department and colleagues are definitely not seeing the color of with our 18-21k/year salary kek and "really thinking about replacing people who quit to first use the synergies in the teams better" aka give the responsibilities of the person who quit to the next mule in the team that still had their own shit going on and wait until they snap and quit themselves, rince and repeat ad vitam eternam, but is fine with paying a prestige office floor with view over the whole city for almost a quarter million a year in a building that's breaking from the inside out (the old plumbing in the toilet smells of sewers, there are only two elevators out of six that really work, glass/plexiglass panels coating the facade have been falling down and being a hazard in town for the last 15-20 years). And now they're being reluctant to stay in the prestige floor because the company renting the floor raises the price by 42%. Upper management should have seen this coming since 2021 when the real estate prices were way more affordable and already looked at other office buildings to move to.
But nah fam, the real problem is the 2,6-2,7mio in staff costs, of course. Sure.

No. 1995200

Is applying for the same job 2 days in a row, bad? Annoying? I just want an interview

No. 1995208

didn't get the job cause I sperged out in the interview. sorry but the (40 year old) moid who interviewed me asked if I like star wars and I knee-jerked a "NO" and said "I'm a James Bond girlie"
kek but also lmao, fuck

No. 1995756

>>1995208
nona you sound fun and he sounds like a boring dork, don't let it get you down

No. 1995989

Opened linkedin and saw my successful peers being successful. I can't do this shit nonnies

No. 1996032

>>1995989
try to remind yourself there are plenty of other things in their lives that can be stressing them out or making them miserable

No. 1996055

>>1996032
Thank you ♥

No. 1996714

It’s been two years since I was wrongfully terminated from my last job and now had the courage to anonymously shit on it (with minor changes to my position ‘cause I’m still a pussy) on a job board.

No. 1996734

>>1994178
kind of weird and I havent personally tried it but DataAnnotation is a remote company where you rate AI-generated code and critique it. My friend got paid through it recently. Maybe you can pass code through to chatgpt and ask it to critique kek, there's a lot of "AI-rater" jobs getting posted nowadays.

No. 1997573

Corporate job trainings bore me to tears. I'm doing one for a new job right now and it's several employees droning on for over 100+ slides full of pseudoscience mumbo jumbo for 8 hours per day, save for an occasional break out room but those are just annoying and confusing. The things HR and execs do to justify their salary…

No. 1997574

>>1996734

I have been doing DA and I can vouch for it. It is good money if you are on the coding side.

No. 1997617

>>1997574
It's still about $20 a hour none coding, you just need to fact check huge swathes of text

No. 1997629

>>1997617

Yeah I know, I get non-coding as well. Just letting them know because coding can go up to $40/hr. I don't think this job is sustainable full-time and as a single source of income, but still a pretty neat side gig. I've had other gigs but they were all just literal beer money. Never seen one pay this high for work that quickly lucrative.

No. 1998314

Any advice for people wanting to juggle 2 remote jobs, 1 local and 1 foreign? I'm trying to look for extra work for a foreign company as a virtual assistant/captioner but having a hard time looking for postings that aren't unreasonable out the ass with regard to qualifications. Any ideas for other positions to apply for?

No. 1998841

Kind of a strange question but my dad (who I live with) was arrested recently, and I'm just wondering if that would affect an upcoming work-related background check for me?

No. 1998846

>>1998841
Unless you’re looking to work for the feds, most companies don’t check on relatives and just focus on your background

No. 2001280

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How cringe is it to put "Youtube Content Creator - Self Employed" on a resume?
I've been leaving it out, but the gap that creates looks like absolute trash because Youtube was almost all I did from 2018 to 2021.
The jobs I'm aiming for are just part time ones like data entry/hotel receptionist/waitress, nothing fancy. If the rest of my resume wasn't so fucked I wouldn't even be stressing about this as much as I am, but alas, it is.
The thing is, I can easily spin what my channel was about to sound good, but if anyone asks for its name I'm fucked kek. The videos really weren't professional, and I feel like being a full time Youtube content creator is unusual enough for the interviewers to comment on it and want to know more. I learned many valuable skills from it though, and the videos took a lot of work, so I'm leaning towards including it. It's not like I was unemployed during that time.
What do you workfag nonnies think? Leave it out? Include it? Kill myself? I just don't know.

No. 2001291

>>2001280
Maybe don't include the youtube part to make it sound more vague? Just say you were a self employed content creator and what skills you learned through it. If they ask about your channel you could say that you deleted it after quitting or that you don't want to talk about in detail because the content itself isn't relevant to the job, only the gained skills are. There's probably no way they could find it anyway

No. 2001292

>>2001280
idk nonna…can you say 'internet resource maker? hopefully that works better

No. 2001294

>>2001280
I'd suggest to make the title sound more formal, use something like developer, producer, or generator instead of creator.

No. 2001302

>>2001280
I think it would only work out if you were willing to link to your YouTube channel and if you were clearly putting out well-made content at a decent rate. It's OK if it doesn't have many views, but it should feel like it clearly has appeal to some audience and it should not feel immature.
It would still turn a lot of employers off, but it's also a great hook for hiring managers that value having interesting people to work with that can clearly self-motivate.

No. 2001345

>>2001291
I'm worried they'd think I was an e-whore if I made it sound really vague kek. At least with a monetized Youtube channel it's clear that my videos were normal enough for ads to play on them, you know?

>>2001292
>>2001294
Hmm. Producer sounds pretty good. Or maybe Internet/Content Marketer or something…? Thanks for the suggestions, it sounds a lot less cringe than Content Creator.

>>2001302
I got a good amount of views back then, which is why I used it as my main source of income for some time. Unfortunately the content was immature lol, so the thought of an employer watching it makes me want to die of embarrassment. I started the channel when I was in my early 20s and still kind of retarded, and I can't really delete any of the older vids because those are the ones with the most views.

No. 2001719

>>1997574
>>1997617
Is DA genuinely not a meme? I've been desperate for another side gig to cover rent because 6hr+ shifts outside the house are too much for my back. How many hours per day/week do you usually get to do?

No. 2001747

What kind of certificates can you get where you can get a decent paying job? I know that sounds extremely retarded and really the only way to get a decent job is going through higher education (4 year university), but I mean jobs where it’s sort of like data entry/assistant/front desk but in areas of housing/buildings. Idk they just seem really hard to crack in without at least 2 years of certification/education.

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Has anyone here switched fields successfully? How did you do it and how much time did it take? Also, which field did you go into?

No. 2002273

>>2001747
Typically something blue collar related like trucking or something like an ultrasound tech or so. Be careful for different scammy schools though (usually community colleges) since a lot of those programs have quotas to fail a certain amount of people out

No. 2002276

>>2002256
Just switched from Engineering to a Business Analyst role. I’d say it took around 6 months. I took a data analyst nano degree program (comprised of 3 intensive courses) during those months to brush up my analysis skills (sql, tableau, python). I also crafted my resume according to the job descriptions of jobs I applied for. Tried my best to draw parallels to the job roles with my previous role. I prepped hard for interview questions. Be prepared to answer why and what motivated you to make a career transition and make it sound good. I also had my projects (my coursework) to showcase on standby although the interviewers never end up asking because they were pleased enough with my other answers.

No. 2002321

>>2001345
I spin my indie gamedev as being a freelance graphic designer/illustrator for other people's games. No one has ever asked to see examples (since my actual design portfolio is enough). I'd go with "Freelance video editor" or something like that; you can pretend you were editing for other youtubers rather than yourself so they don't ask for links (but really, most people don't care).

No. 2002399

>>2002273
would become an ultrasound tech or even pharmacy tech but the amount of horror stories and pain my mother has endured for years working in the healthcare system makes me want to stay far away, it’s worse if you aren’t a protected employee like a doctor or higher-up

No. 2002427

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I want to get a second degree and change careers, so nonnas employed in these areas:
- Anthropology
- Philosophy
- Art/art studies/whatever it is that americans call it
- Psychology
What is your actual job? How related is it to your degree? Do you like it?

No. 2002450

>museum in my city is hiring top dollar for art restoration professional
>remember 10 years ago when my family shit talked me that art studies and conservation isn't a real career path and pushed me to study accounting by only offering financial support if I listen
>feel bittersweet but happy that someone will have an awesome job in such a cool institution

Don't listen to family that tells you to be practical and not specialize. Being a niche specialist just means you might have to move, but you will always be sought somewhere. Being a practical generalist normie means you will always have competition, sometimes 10k+ competing applicants.

No. 2002468

One of the guys on my job site thinks I'm really shitty at what I do but honestly I just don't like him so I half ass everything I do for him kek

No. 2002470

>>2002459
I think you might need to re-read it.

No. 2002472

>>2002427
Meant with degrees in these areas not employed in these areas gdi

No. 2002474

>>2002427
you missed sociology and any "studies" degree

No. 2002487

One of my colleagues is obsessed with chatGPT, he bought a subsciption to like the most recently released, non-public version and makes it do his job. He's also "learning programming" in one of the classes he's taking for a programme our organization put him into, and by learning I mean he feeds their home works and class assignments into ChatGPT and gives it back. He's always excitedly telling me what "he" managed to do with the help of ChatGPT, by prompting it for like 4-5 work hours because I'm known to fuck around with scripting some of my tasks, obviously it's some very sub-amateur shit I do for fun.
He's always beaming with pride and I don't want any workplace conflict, but I don't know how he can pretend he learned anything or that he's gaining any skills when he doesn't modify any code himself, he just prods this AI for hours until it can produce a passable result. I've used openAI to mine some texts, so it's not like I'm an absolute luddite, but this shit seems ridiculous, and I don't know how can he not see he's only hurting his own competence by letting this AI-assisant do all of the "thinking". Is this really the future? Will people just not do any studying because they trust the AI will be able to do it? It's fucking bleak and I want to slap this guy

No. 2002501

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I just found out that my job ends at the end of the month. Is it bad if I feel bitter towards the people who decided I should be fired? I’m a contract worker who was told from the start that it would evolve into a full-time offer due to a hiring freeze. Then the VP in charge got fired and replaced, and now the new VP & CFO said that all contractors have to be terminated at the end of the month. The funny thing is that this only came into question because my director tried asking her if I could be brought on full-time yet. Thank god I have another job already lined up at a way bigger company with way more growth opportunities and it’s lining up perfectly so I won’t be unemployed. Still feels like shit because I was really excited for this lady to replace the old VP, only for her to ultimately fire me.

No. 2002503

I am going to start college soon, for accounting. I am scared because i am retarded, definetly dumber than the average person. There is a high chance i might fail and lose years of my life.

No. 2002527

>>2002503
I believe in you nona. Even if you're a little slow, if you put in the work put in the hours you can finish it and have a successful career.

No. 2002548

>>2002503
It's 85% good habits, effective studying and preserverance, your actual intelligence matters much less than you think it does. You can do it, good luck!

No. 2002586

A bit worried about an interaction between me and a student. He started bringing up xxxtentacion, that loser dead midget faggot rapper who ruptured a womans internal organs by sodomising her with a bbq implement. I calmly told him I didn't want to discuss people who hurt women in my class. He mentioned him again and I just repeated what I just said again, and then he said 'he didnt do that' like who the fuck do you think you are? I calmly asked him to step outside the classroom and he's made a formal complaint about me. Wtf.
Pretty sure none of the other kids would think I was out of line and hoping if it came to it then they would come to bat for me but wtf seriously. And yes he has said misogynistic things before, saying loyal women do not exist and asking me if I would leave my husband for Chris Hemsworth. (Hubby is exponentially better looking).

No. 2002599

>>2002586
Do you teach high school? He sounds like the kind of retarded chatterbox I couldn't stand even as a student myself. If you can, tell him to stop wasting class time and that no one cares what he thinks.

No. 2002605

>>2002599
Exactly like why are you trying to derail the lesson to defend the reputation of a dead rapist? If you idolise him so much then why don't you go and die like he did? Men get so pissed when they can't control other people's beliefs about some retarded faggot who they worship for fuck knows why

No. 2002692

>>2002605
Most teenage boys think xxx was a retarded faggot anyway so I bet he gets bullied among his peers for it.

No. 2002814

>>2002586
I have nothing to contribute other than to say imagining one of my middle or highschool teachers saying
>loser dead midget faggot rapper
made me kek

No. 2003117

>>2001280
i would say video editor

No. 2003454

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Does anyone know about business fraud, or could ask someone who does? I'm seriously considering sending in an anonymous IRS snitch form about my current work. It's a 501c3 college.

tl;dr
>last year we lost a ton of support staff and most are now assuming an accreditation issue started in October due to other issues
>my boss suddenly quit
>boss was necessary staff, mid-semester, it's a mess
>administration hires a new lady
>full-time job, great, we just need someone
>Oh no she's a massive bitch
>she's 8 months pregnant
>immediately leaves in November for maternity leave saying she'll be back in February
>she never came back
>good riddance
>we sincerely thought she quit
>in the meantime we got a temp boss
>she's great, may as well full-time her because other bitch isn't showing up
>turns out our departments are bullying my temp boss threatening that the full-time lady will show up
>also turns out the full-timer was hired on immediately, no temping, and has been collecting maternity leave money and a salary this entire time
>she has been completely AWOL unless she's exclusively talking to people above my head, which isn't a huge group
>that position is supposed to schedule hours for me and a few others, and she's done none of that, temp boss and another temp have been doing it, which has honestly been good
>last thing full-time lady ever asked me to do was double-booking me for 2 shifts and not paying for 2x the hours
>I just found out about the full-time pay yesterday

Other semi-related issue is one of the upper managers let slip that their employment is "an arrangement" because they're full-time elsewhere. They're paid benefits and full-time salary while not feasibly working those hours at the school. I'm less familiar with that one though since it's possible they're massively overworked, which is another problem by itself.
Is this considered kickbacks? Is it legal at all? Another similar school went under a few years ago for shit like this and there seem to be ongoing issues at the top, so if I did anything it won't overshadow their current circus. I'm already in the process of leaving this job, and nobody here was a reference, so I have nothing to lose, but I do have more info access than I should. There's a mess of other problems but this was the most transparent money-related one I've seen.

No. 2003672

>>2002468
Based nonna. Even better gaslight him, make everyone talk positively about you and how much of a good job you do around him so he's never believed kek

No. 2004322

I used to do Instacart a few years ago and want to get into it again on the side. Even though it barely paid and the stores were always out of everything (this was during COVID), it was easy and I like working independently. But I go to the grocery store so much I know the regular Instacart shoppers. They are either disabled in some way or otherwise seem low income. And I feel guilty taking the work from them when I have a source of income.

No. 2004337

I’m autistic, so I get services that help me find a job, and I think I found the perfect one! Right now, I’m going for a simple receptionist job. I still need to go through training, but I am shedding my neet status!

No. 2004345

>>2004337
Good for you, good luck! I liked being a receptionist, it's not stressfull and not mind numbing boring either.

No. 2004404

have to clock in from lunch soon and i just don’t want to do it. nobody really wants to work and i understand i’m not special but god i don’t want to engage in meetings that could be emails. i thought everyone was joking but this really does happen in corpocuckville, you need to spend 3 hours listening to someone work out their problems by using you as a soundboard and basically run over themselves.

No. 2004423

Month 4 of being unemployed. Not a single call or even rejection email. I just want to give up but, money and bills.

No. 2004424

I live in a cold place where I can wear long sleeves and pants even most days in summer, but in June my company is going on a conference to a really warm country and people are planning to go to the beach, hang out by the pool and bathe. I'm really terrified of showing my skin, because I had a severe skin condition through my childhood and teenage years that has left most of my body with scars, and the rash still flares up a lot on my legs and arms. It's not pretty. People think I've been a burn victim. I'm the newest hire at this job and I've managed to click nicely with my coworkers on a surface level, but I want to avoid anything that might make me seem weird or awkward. Would you nonnies be more weirded out if the new hire remained covered up the whole time, or would you be more weirded out to see her skin being all mangled and blotchy? I want to avoid bathing at all cost, but shorts and a t-shirt while hanging out by the pool could be okay. I'm probably overthinking this, but I've managed to avoid having my condition seen in public for so many years I don't know how people would react.

No. 2004433

>>2004424
Can't you be like "oh no I don't like the beach/swimming I'd rather go shopping/experience culture hahaha~"

No. 2004441

Is anyone here in nursing? I’m planning on going to school for it because of the nightshifts and 12hr days. I used to do dental assisting, software dev, and childcare. I’m extremely short so I’m worried about lifting patients who are 2-4 times my size. Could I get around this by working with children? Maybe babies? School nursing would interesting it just pays so low. I feel very comfortable in medical settings I just worry my size is going to make the job impossible. When dental assisting I struggled because the chairs did not fit my body. I had to stand for every operation. Holy back pain!!

No. 2004504

>>2004424
They'll probably hang out at the pool during the day, so maybe you could pretend like the unusual weather and sun beaming down on you gives you a headache? And then join them when they go out to mostly indoor activities and in the evening. I think hanging out fully clothed by the pool is weird, but it's pretty normal at the beach.

No. 2004505

>>2004424
I have scars and I cover my whole body all year round. I've been asked at work why I dress that way and I'm pretty upfront that I have issues with my skin. I've never been bothered by anyone after saying that, but when I used to show my skin I was treated horribly. I wear a wetsuit when I go to the beach and I guess it's a bit bizarre because I'm not doing a sport but I don't really feel self conscious about it because there's usually a few other people in wetsuits.

No. 2004562

>>2004424
>Would you nonnies be more weirded out if the new hire remained covered up the whole time
would I? hell no because I'd also be covered up myself. will work normies? they might make a joke or assume you're super insecure or something. i say fuck them. i am personally more comfortable with keeping covered and i prefer keeping others wondering why over them doing that thing where they try not to stare at you. i really hate the idea of people being able to see, some might even ask because they're sheltered, anyone who doesn't will wonder and may gossip about it with others. just my 2 cents

No. 2004576

Accidentally asked my safety officer if I was stinky while he was on a meeting with all the higher ups. Oops

No. 2004597

boss told me she might call me after hours for
work. i’m dreading it and hoping she doesn’t. but if she does i’m hourly so you can bet your sweet fucking ass i am clocking in

No. 2004648

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I hate trying to find a job in this shit hole. I've got nothing against immigration (my parents are immigrants themselves), but the sheer amount of them has made it impossible to find work. You've got lines around the block just for a chance to work at a liquor store. What the hell am I even going to do? I can't possibly compete with that many people. I hate living here.

No. 2004659

I posted this in the vent thread but it's relevent here.

A guy from my old job has been nominated for a national award based on work I did!!!

I cant fucking believe it, he was the team leader I was deputy for a side project at work, I did all of the work because he didnt give a shit. I set the whole fucking team up. I managed everthing. I did everyone elses work as noone else cared. I set up the events. I made the connections, partnerships, relationships with outside parties that was needed. I set up lot's of template files, wrote instructions to carry it on after I left as I didnt want it to collapse. I bumped into an old collegue today and ask if he knew if my old side project was still running, and he fucking tells me the guy is nominated for a national award FOR MY FUCKING WORK!!!!!!!!! ITS FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!!!

There is fuck all I can do about it! I hope he doesn't win.

Nonnas learn from this never ever set others up to succeed, when you leave a job or when you are at a job don;t leave instructions, don;t leave templates, don't do or leave anything that can help others, delete everything.

No. 2004740

>>2004424
Hopefully this isn’t considered insensitive but honestly if they’re not self-harm scars then I wouldn’t be ashamed at all. Yes people might pity you but is it really worth sweating your ass off for some accidental scars? If there’s a stigma against your scarring that can be used against you professionally then I would probably try to cover it. I have tons of old self-harm scars and wear long sleeves all the time. I decided to see a dermatologist to at least lessen their appearance (that could be an option for you) so I won’t be as paranoid of them being noticed immediately by others; however I don’t think I’ll ever be able to wear short sleeves because of the chance of someone looking close and recognizing them, and then treating me differently because of it. But a burn scar or skin condition? You’re fine imo.

No. 2004745

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Both of my applications for a company went from "under consideration" to "submitted" after 20 days of waiting, and I have no idea if that's good or bad.

No. 2004863

>>2004659
Sorry if this is retarded, but is it not possible at all to anonymously contact whichever national organization it is and tell them this guy stole all your work/didn't do any of it himself? Or do you not have any proof it's yours? What about testimony from others? I'm so sorry nonna, this is so enraging. That guy is a massive dick for taking credit for your work.

No. 2004924

Is it normal for your pay getting deducted for mistakes at the cashier? It's a new place I'm working at so mistakes are bound to happen even if one is extremely careful. I've worked with money before but this is the first time I've encountered this rule. There should at least be some sort of immunity for someone just starting out. My training was supposed to be two weeks long but I've started working for real with no supervision in three days. And no, it's not a supermarket or a grocery shop, there's quite a lot of stuff to learn.

No. 2004961

>>2004924
I worked as a cashier at a bunch of different supermarkets and stores when I was younger and never encountered this. I'm not sure it's even legal? Where do you work?

No. 2004995

>>2004863
I dont think so he would have been nominated by my old office so the award organisation would have no idea.
The proof would be on my old offices system and they would be unlikely to care as it looks good for them to have him nominated especially if he wins so they would probably cover for him if they knew.

No. 2005038

>>2004924
I’ve heard of stuff like that at gas stations happening if someone drives off without paying for gas. That’s what my dad said anyway. I asked how that could be legal, and iirc he replied with something like “um, well, it’s kinda not exactly but no one is going to enforce that so you’d still be on the hook for it”

No. 2005323

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>coworker offered to let me rent in the in-law apartment at their family's house
>need a place closer to my jobs and they've helped me out at work so it didn't sound too bad
>told me today that they found pics of me/my college graduation info online and texted it to their brother because they want to introduce me to him
>2nd coworker overhears this, tells me it'd be a good thing for me and starts asking the other coworker about how much money he has and what his job history
why do people have to be like this, what the fuck

No. 2005394

>>2005323
Sorry anon, they sound annoying as hell. Why are people obsessed with the fact that you’re single and not trying for a relationship if you’re a woman. I find that it’s always people who are married/in relationships and it’s almost like they pity you which just makes me feel bad. And it’s not just women in my case, my married male coworkers have tried to ask me about various guys in the office and one said that he was husband hunting for me. Going forward I think I’m gonna try to be more discreet about being single because there will always be those people who find out and the cogs in their brain start turning to try and set you up with someone likely because it’s more entertaining for them than doing actual work.

No. 2005397

>>2004961
>>2005038
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Just got back from my shift. Anons, I don't know what I got myself into. This really should be illegal.
>I'm not sure it's even legal? Where do you work?
In a tourist trap in Europe. And as a receptionist in a camp. There's different type of units one can rent (pitches and mobile houses) and different type of services and different type of clients. This place has such convoluted ways to do things that should be simple let alone when any level of complexity is involved. The program we use is ancient, laggy and sometimes it doesn't record something properly so we have to double check everything. I barely got the hang of basics so the fact that I'm already on my own albeit with occasional help from my busy colleagues scares me. Learning through trial and error is fine if there's not a pay-deducting rule enforced. They can't have it both ways, barely train someone and then expect them to pay for their mistakes that are 100% going to happen. The stress simply isn't worth it. Plus there are other insane rules like not being allowed to sit for some reason which hurts when you're supposed to work 8 hours per day, six days per week. Standing when there are guests at the desk is reasonable. If they told me any of this before signing the contract I would have bailed out. As it currently stands I will be looking for other jobs from now on, but come next month, I will be resigning either way. The stakes are too high especially since "mistakes" can easily get into 300-400 euro range.

No. 2005560

>>2002814
takes a bow

>>2002586
I am being pulled into a meeting about this tomorrow morning, please pray that I do not lose my job over this nonnies. This is a private school which is why this vexatious complaint is being given any airtime.

No. 2005658

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I think I had the worst vet tech week ever.

>working at an animal shelter for 5 years as the head and only licensed tech

>Worked the place up from a literal illegal drug den shit hole to something a city could be proud of
anywho
>vet tech week rolls around
>for the first time ever, board actually recognizes VT week and gets us food
>on my clocked out lunch, the board corners me while I try to eat to ask me about a controversial topic in the shelter
>baited.jpeg
>take a neutral position because I could get fired by manager, assistant manager or by the board, all of whom have different views
>very next day, get word that I'm being demoted, the yearly raise that everyone had gotten for 5 years is being taken away from me, and that my position and my accumulated raises are given to an unlicensed heroin addicted moid who was still green
I was basically forced to quit. They wouldn't fire me because then their unemployment insurance may increase, so instead they threaten my career.
I still put in my 2 weeks but the shit I had to do to animals in that time will forever haunt me. I was absolutely berated in those few weeks, I was treated like trash, I was publicly humiliated both in front of coworkers and peers and the general public. I loved shelter work, I like vet med, but I haven't done either since I left. I haven't done fucking anything besides putter around some remote jobs for a few weeks. I would rather be homeless than go to work again. What is wrong with me.

>>2003454
I've worked in the non-profit sector almost my whole life. In my experience, most 501c3's are doing something sketchy, if not total money laundering through smurfing or shell companies. Yours is def on the sketchy side. I would look into different ways people can use non profits to make money 'clean', see if there's any nepotism with this upper management, and keep an eye out for things like asking specifically for small donations or large donations in cash, which are easier to hide from the IRS. A big red flag for me is if you have board members or big donors from all over the world, IF your non-profit isn't hugely popular or largely international. Let me know what you find if you can safely, nonnie. I find that type of stuff interesting.

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>>2005658
AYRT, hilariously good timing.
Temp boss gave me the dirt the other day - we're being audited. We figured something was going on with ongoing staffing issues, EVERY new person being a spouse or personal friend to our chair, and people suddenly jumping ship a few months ago. Our theory is my last boss who bailed tipped off either an accreditation board or the IRS. Our controller and basically everyone managing accreditation, statistics, and money, disappeared and the positions are open. Maybe 2 months ago, we had people who looked way too official to be here prying about what type of school we were and looking at facilities; I figured they were assessors.

Turns out our department chair got caught using the college fund to pay off his buddies for "faculty dinners" while promising them faculty jobs next year. He has a whole class dedicated to his friends coming in and just bullshitting to the freshmen. The bullshit "full-time" hours came up as well. Someone from a different department has been getting paid but they're refusing to on-board her, she made a huge stink about it on her own and that just set off this wave of shit in the last 2 weeks. I guess there's a state law that requires on-boarding if you are paying someone over a certain amount for services. We just had our timecards partly taken away, now all our event work has had to be reported on-paper instead of online. I'm glossing over a lot of drama but we fucking figured something was going on just from how many cronies started showing up telling us to bill like crazy. Titanic's sinking and these dumbasses are raiding the kitchen.

I'm not very knowledgeable about FERPA but this coincides with federal aid for "classes outside your major" getting rescinded/no longer approved. The place is small but expensive, so this was odd because there aren't really irrelevant classes, per se. It's an art college so unless you're begging to take math 5 times over or some shit, everything is still within the subject you're studying. Thank fuck my last day is tomorrow, this looks eerily similar to how the Art Institute went down.

No. 2007113

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I lied on my job interview about having a driver's license. I don't have a DUI or any criminal record and I have a valid ID card.

In the 2nd screening they want me to either go to the office or a virtual interview; I know that going there physically will increase my chances but should I pick virtual just to be safe from license checking?

My job doesn't even require me to operate a car at any point in time either. All of this won't fuck me in the ass at any point right?

No. 2007175

>>2007113
Years ago, I lied about having a license because it didn't sound like I would really need a car from the job description and it immediately fucked me over. I had to quit the job after like 2 days. It was an underpaid wagie job so nothing of value was lost.

No. 2007213

This is just a rant. I work in a warehouse and recently we got a bunch of young hires. Admittedly the work is tedious, demanding, and hard, but we have a few that stick it out the entire shift and appreciate their hard work. Then there are the rest of them. It feels like I'm in the twilight zone. They refuse to work, refuse to help, and refuse to listen. They'll stand there talking the entire time and if they see one of their fellow employees struggling, will either laugh at them or pretend they don't see it. Things that used to run smoothly are getting congested and backed up because no one wants to do anything, and it's putting a lot of stress on the workers who've been here. I don't know why management doesn't do anything about them, but work has been a lot harder since they've arrived. Yesterday was especially infuriating for me because I got put in charge to "train" two of the new hires, a boy and a girl. Technically, the work is simplistic enough. Pick up box, drop box, do it again. Instead they complained the entire time and when they weren't doing that they were flirting, refused to help at any point, and just kind of watched me work instead. The boy was especially nasty, making snide comments about me saying how he dislikes girls who "aren't feminine." While the girl acted as if she couldn't pick up a box and that I should do it instead. I told them gender has nothing to do with working hard and if you feel that way, maybe you should find another job instead of working here. Unfortunately, our job kind of hires anyone so I'm surrounded by the lowest reaches of society. I'm admittedly only here because I fucked up in my 20s and it was the only place hiring with a decent amount of money. I reported both of them and since they've formed their little groups now, I may end up being public enemy number one, but I've been working this job for months with no problems until these new hires showed up threatening to fuck that all up. I just want to work my job and get my degree finished. At least I'm in college and this job is a means to an end. I made sure to study in something that will ensure I get a job out of college (medical field), so hopefully, I never end up in this position again. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of weight and my body looks really toned and nice. I was surprised looking in the mirror one morning.

No. 2007225

I found out the company I worked for a few months ago acquired a Canadian company today. That's 4 companies acquired within a fucking year. I pity the poor girl who got my job because I couldn't handle the 3 new ones.

No. 2007237

>>2007113
Assuming you're a burger they will ask for two forms of ID, so get your birth certificate and ssn card as your two forms, say you left your liscence at home or smth

No. 2007333

So fucking glad I'm leaving my current job. We did our last commencement event and it was a fucking shitshow. The "thanks" I got for showing up early was a shitty box of leftover candy and what was left of re-used and discarded flowers from yesterday's event. I love my coworkers but I can't stand some of the literal students they have as "event staff" under us that just stand around and don't do shit. It's so jading to be kinda the last person who has knowledge about how the place works since just about everyone I knew who helped the most had quit. I'm not going to let myself get farmed out in the same way friends did when they were under the false impression that constantly being called for grunt work meant upward mobility or that they were liked. Place is full of assholes and literally sees staff as "the help." Whatever, fuck this place. I feel bad for throwing the flowers in the yard for the bunnies but I don't really want to see them anymore.

No. 2007369

>>2007213
Good for you nonna. It'll all pay off soon, you know that.

No. 2008730

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I work as a part time library associate, while working on my masters in library/information science. My goal is to focus in archives or whatever else lets me stay in the back away from the public and work with history. Well, our small library got a big grant to expand our local archives and create more local history initiatives. That includes a new full time job position all about that, as well as assisting people with digitizing photos or old media formats. The requirements are a masters OR ample experience with working with that stuff. I'm halfway done with my degree, and have helped with small things in the archives off and on already.

The only thing that terrifies me is that it may require me to be social. Like community outreach, planning programs, talking to stakeholders, etc. I'm an introvert, so that may be difficult to get over. Also, I'm a part time worker/part time student right now so if I got it my personal time would be sliced in half. But more hours=more money and all. Plus benefits. I can't really lose by applying. If I don't get it, it'll be status quo. If I do, I'd just have to get out of my comfort zone and be slightly richer for it.

No. 2008745

>>2008730
>The only thing that terrifies me is that it may require me to be social. Like community outreach, planning programs, talking to stakeholders, etc.

just go for it. something can terrify you for the first couple of times, then its just makes you nervous, and after enough experience with it, it may even begin to bore you or become enjoyable.

No. 2008758

>>2008730
also working on my MLS! Not working over the summer but during the school year I've been doing everything I can to find part time work. I'm so scared about how difficult it'll be to find a full time job once I graduate

No. 2009290

>>2008758
>>2008730
omg fellow mls nonnies! my advice is to write your master thesis about something you want to work with and make sure to get as much experience as possible. if you're unable to get a part time job i suggest volunteer work, student conferences etc. you should totally apply for jobs that seem interesting even though they're out of your comfort zone. if it turns out that you hate the job, changing to a more suitable one will be much more manageable as you've gained relevant work experience.

i completed my degree a couple of years ago and in my experience there are way more opportunities with a mls than one is aware of. as a student i was fortunate enough to work as a media archivist and then a library assistant at a uni library. after i graduated i worked full time as a research librarian, but after a uear switched to a corporate archivist job where i work with information & records management. i'm actually pretty outgoing and loved the social aspect of being a librarian kek, but the corp. archivist job pays so much better. the difference is huge, like a 2000€ yearly salary difference.

No. 2009497

>>2008758
>>2009290
Original MLS nonna here. My degree plan includes information science as well. It applies to so many fields besides just libraries because information is everywhere, so I'm not worried about it being too narrow. It's certainly more helpful for getting a job than my bachelor's in history.

I'm going to apply. It's definitely the closest to my preferred career path and it's not something that comes up often. Plus, I already work at this library so I literally know everyone, the layout, and most of the processes. I have a good relationship with the librarians so I'm sure if I need support I can go to them.

No. 2009605

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i can tell my boss really really really wants me to volunteer for overtime. i'll get paid for it (one of the benefits of being hourly), but i'm not at all keen and i'm also very firm on getting out of the office at 5:00 pm. this friday i had a stroke of luck and managed to solve an issue they were having for years, apparently, in 30 minutes and i don't mean to imply i'm a super genius but these are all boomers who didn't understand how xml worked and also, apparently, could not googlefu a solution as i did kek and my boss was like "oh cool…what are you doing this weekend? maybe we could [do more work on this together even though you've fixed it rather than just take an hour or two on monday which is more than possible]?" and i just told her my ride was here and i really had to go

she's an excellent boss btw, far better than my last 3 bosses, but a boss is a boss and it's all about turning profit. thanks for reading my blog

No. 2009687

>>2009605
Next time just say no, I'm not available on (moment) and offer no specific reason. Usually works unless you have an exceptionally noisy/entitled boss who demands to know exactly why you're not available outside workhours.

No. 2009755

>>2009605
You should definitely say no, if you aren't firm about it you'll set the expectation that you're totally fine with working outside of work hours.

No. 2009915

>>2009290
Lucky me, my program doesn’t make us write a master’s thesis. I’d like to work in a publi cv library when I graduate which seems like one of the easier positions to get into but also one of the worst paying. I think I’d really enjoy the job though

No. 2009964

>>2009687
>>2009755
won't i get in trouble for outright saying no, though, especially as a new employee? i've only been working here for 3 months. technically 2.5 but linkedin rounds it to 3 so i'll just go with that kek

No. 2009995

>>2009915
ayrt, good luck nonna! my friend has that job and she loves it

No. 2010004

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Nonnas, is UX still worth learning? I feel interest towards UX writing, but I believe it would be better to get a good grasp of the whole thing before choosing something to specialize into, right?
I'd like to leave customer service once I finish my degree later this year, but my brain is in a constant cycle between the UX field and copywriting (some aspects of it also interest me) and it's hard to decide when I don't know anyone who has knowledge in those areas.
It also doesn't help I'm an anxious mess and very afraid of investing time and money into courses and ending up regretting my choices. Thanks in advance!

No. 2010099

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I think I'm getting burnout from my job. It kinda sucks because it felt like my first not-retail-wageslave full time job with coworkers who I get along really well with. I was even able to do a modified schedule to fit in college classes, which would have never worked at my old job. A few people I like have left or retired so it's not as amazing as when I first started, and I'm currently doing work for three different positions because of people on maternity leave…it's mentally exhausting. The work/college grind is taking its toll. I'll have the summer off but I'm really torn about leaving or not because I never had such a good work experience up until the last two months.

No. 2010992

>>2010099
Agh today was so fucking bad, and Tuesday is always the worst day so I’m dreading tomorrow

No. 2011635

>>2005718
yup there it is. If you continue in the non-profit sector, you'll see a pattern. It sucks, but it's the only way most non-profits are able to actually help a lot of people, because someone is profiting off of it.

>>2010099
Maybe it will get better after summer, assuming they hire some people and those on leave will be back?

>>2007333
Unfortunately, company loyalty went out the door when the company began treating workers like expendable cattle. Fuck em. Take care of yourself, because no one else will.

No. 2011772

Would I be stupid to go casual when I've already got a full-time job??? I'm currently doing full-time work for a company I don't entirely mind for the past 6 months, but I've found out that a company I worked casually for in the past (about 2 years) would like to come back to do more work for them and old colleagues have told me that I would be fairly stable in my position with full-time hours. They're also offering me full time but the full time rate is $2-3 more than what I'm earning, and casual rate is almost $10 an hour more. I live with my parents so the only reason I am weary about going casual is because the job market is annoying and I don't like finding another job. BTW I live in Australia.

No. 2012577

How do you explain an industry/career change without having it turned on you? Like for instance I came from a very cut-throat [sexist] industry full of incels and I try to say that I’m happy in the corporate world because I feel like it suits my personality better. If I say that the environment was not a fit, an interviewer will often try to turn that around and be like “well a good environment is not always a guarantee” even though there is a clear distinction between STEM academia incels and wage slaves in Corporate America. One of those groups is far nicer than the other and easier to work with. How do I say this in the most succinct way possible and avoid my explanation used against me?

No. 2012629

>>2011772
This may have changed since I was in aus but isn’t full time more secure then casual, as in if you’re casual they can fire you with no warning?
>>2012577
“I’m happier in the corporate world”, doesn’t really need more explanation, “it’s a better fit” “it suits my lifestyle more” “it was always the direction I saw myself taking” “turns out I’m good at it” “it was the work available when I moved/had a near death experience/finished my last assignment and I really love it so I’d like to continue” “it’s more lucrative” “more advancement opportunity”.

No. 2012642

>>2012577
I don't think that question has been sprung on me much, but my answer would be that I did enough in that role and didn't have another position to advance with.

No. 2013900

I have currently been employed at a dead-end job that I dread going to every week despite working only the minimum required hours. I've been working on applying to jobs in my desired career, and have not heard back from one but recently had an interview with another. The interview went well, but the location is inconvenient and I do not necessarily feel as inspired or excited at the prospect of working there as I would at the other places. I know there are many other locations I have yet to apply to, but I am hesitant to turn down the inconveniently located position. I feel guilty, especially toward the "clients" I would be turning down who might need help. I also truly loathe my job, but at least it is close by and I do not have to work my butt off. I am simply very conflicted. My friends encourage me to turn down this job and simply keep searching nearby, but I remain apprehensive and would love your advice.

No. 2013986

I'm working in a very niche field and my current workplace is extremely toxic and soul-crushing. I wanted to find another job in that field, but there is just 5 job offers in entire country, two of which require a different skill set than mine. Other three are in big cities but the pay is not enough to cover the rent and expenses in the capital. What the fuck did I get myself into?

No. 2014059

>apply for job at a technology recycling company
>interview goes well
>not even nervous at the interview because i know i can do the job
>they don't hire me
The fuck is this shit. The only reason I can think of why they didn't hire me is because I'm a woman. Guess the red flag I should have noticed was that there were no young women working there. I'm convinced the manager hired a man instead because a good looking young woman would be too distracting or tempting for him or he didn't believe I knew shit about computers. Looking for jobs as a woman is ass.

No. 2014076

Anons plz I have my first interview in 4.5 months for a job in my annoyingly niche field, in a beautiful new city; for 2$ more than my city's avg wage. I know there's some hippie bullshit positive vibes thread somewhere but I saw this one first. Pray for me as I would and have for you, blessings upon us all.

No. 2014080

>>2011772
>Would I be stupid to go casual when I've already got a full-time job???

Yes.

No. 2015297

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I have an interview coming up for a role I've been waiting on for months, and I'm anxious about not getting it, as I've pretty much put everything else aside for it.
It will consist of your basic "are you a psycho" interview and a competency based assessment, so now I'm just revising and searching for tips on potential questions and how to appear more professional.

>>2014076
Good luck, I truly do hope you will pass it and be able to tackle anything that comes your way!

No. 2016023

>>2015297
look up body language techniques. confident body language, mirroring, eye contact, is pretty important when making a good impression. then just spit out some good buzzwords in your best impression of a regular person who doesn't use lolcow and you're in

No. 2016316

What's a good, low stress job if you want to work with your hands and get a fair amount of exercise in daily? Money isn't much of a factor for me but I'd prefer not interacting that much with customers. I'm reconsidering my life path and have an opportunity to do new schooling and such.

No. 2016337

>>2016316
Warehouse work maybe?

No. 2016345

>>2016337
Do warehouses usually hire women? I think that's a good suggestion but I remember my dad working in one and it was 95% men.

No. 2016438

>>2016345
Yeah, when I lived near a warehouse for a retail company there were men and women there. I knew one couple where the wife was a manager at the warehouse and her husband did the delivery/on the floor stuff. Maybe it depends on what the warehouse is for.

No. 2016459

>>2016337
Whether or not this is low stress depends entirely on your management and the warehouse. It could be backbreaking and stressful and potentially not even pay that much. I guess she wouldn't interact with customers though.
>>2016316
Just an idea but if you live in a city talk to your mailperson about becoming a CCA, they can tell you if the routes involve walking and if the management is terrible. I would not call it low stress to someone who does it as a career, but it can be a real clock-in-clock-out get your steps in type of job and might be less stressful if you're not in it for the long haul. If your city doesn't have walking routes don't do it for exercise, you'll just be driving and lifting heavy packages.

No. 2016554

>>2016316
Janitorial work is generally pretty calm. I used to do it at a hotel and never had to interact with guests. Housekeeping is stressful though

No. 2016698

>>2004648
Are you Canadian? I live close to the epicenter of the international student diploma mill problem. I'm an ex-neet student that hasn't worked since 2021, I feel so screwed. I figured immigrants are less likely to take liqour/weed store jobs because their parents tend to disapprove of drug use, but I guess they apply to that shit anyway.
Fuck

No. 2017979

I sometimes train new employees in our department, and I have a question: is there a secret/tip to training (young) men? Almost all the women I’ve trained have been hardworking, attentive, and quick to learn. All the men I’ve trained have been slow, lazy, and make the same mistakes over and over again. They are also always far less qualified, often having no experience at all. Even the youngest women I’ve trained have at least a couple years’ experience. Anyway, any advice/experience?

No. 2018034

I'm a lawfag and I want to kill myself every day. I must have graduated with this degree through the power of sheer autism or something, because it's got nothing to do with me and I hate it. I already got accepted for a 2 year slave internship that's mandatory to pass my eurofag bar exam and I'm seriously considering suicide before I have to do. Any other nonas who are lawfags? I hate not going to artschool instead and trying to acquire a "stable" career. More like jisatsu career.

No. 2018061

>>2018034
You were going to hate being a barista because art didn't make you money too.

No. 2018072

>>2018034
At least you're a eurofag and didn't go 200k into debt for a law degree. No need for the sunk cost fallacy mentality in your case.

No. 2018143

>>2018034
I'm under considerable pressure to go to law school but I have zero interest in it. I'm already close to suicide but then there are no "respectable" jobs I could accept doing for the rest of my life, or even a few years. I think about killing myself every day and it's only getting worse. I just don't know what career I should be following if not for law.

No. 2018147

>>2018034
I’m about to start law school in the US and explaining to everyone that I’m just gonna be miserable for years for fun makes me regret every decision I’ve made up to this point kek

No. 2018149

>>2018034
>Any other nonas who are lawfags?
Not me but my bff went into healthcare law and then became a small town judge because she was fed up with the same things as you. Now she says her work makes more of a difference which makes it a lot better, and in a small place it's way more chill. So hang in there, there's ways out of the rat race.

No. 2018181

>>2018061
I know but it's only now that I realize there's a middle ground between "unemployed artist" and "24/7 workdays and unbearable amounts of stress". When I started my studies I sure didn't, my childhood was unstable so I was possessed into working towards the job that had an 100% employment rate in my country. Now I'm no longer (as much) mentally ill and I'm realizing I was just a traumatized and immature young adult making impulsive decisions and this is my life now.

>>2018149
That actually sounds quite nice nonna. I also want to work somewhere small and quiet just dealing with day to day life like stupid parking tickets or a pothole in the road that needs to be filled. One of my family members is a small town judge in Latin America but she deals with awful drug trafficking cases every day even working in family law. I just can't handle any sort of stress, I'm not a confrontational personal at all and I worry so much about every decision I take.

>>2018143
Is the pressure coming from your family? Is this a hereditary business thing? If so, maybe it will suck for you in the beginning but afterwards you can get by so well on just nepotism that it's worth having the degree just for that. My dream is to pass the bar and then fuck off and do whatever I want, I'm just afraid I'll kill myself before I reach that point/have no idea if it's actually achievable. I just need financial security really bad.

No. 2018199

>>2018034
Nona, i did the inverse thing, went to artschool (where i live all the good ones are expensive, so i had to reluctantly drop out) then took a law degree in uni (free). Hated it and switched again kek, honestly young people always think 'It's over!!!' when they feel stuck, talking to older people made me realize i have much energy and time left to give. My friend is just like you, completed her law degree (to a masters' level) but she's debating a change in career. Take it easy and as others said, as a eurofag we have less to worry about when it comes to youthful indecision

No. 2018207

>>2018181
>Is the pressure coming from your family? Is this a hereditary business thing? If so, maybe it will suck for you in the beginning but afterwards you can get by so well on just nepotism that it's worth having the degree just for that. My dream is to pass the bar and then fuck off and do whatever I want, I'm just afraid I'll kill myself before I reach that point/have no idea if it's actually achievable. I just need financial security really bad.
Yeah, I'm supposed to take over whatever's left of the family business, but I have absolutely no desire to. I just want to fuck off to the mountains and pet goats or something.

No. 2018234

At first I was bummed I only got a 4.2% salary increase but when I looked online that percentage is apparently pretty decent. Damn now I know why people recommend switching jobs every few years if they want a 10%-20% increase in salary.

No. 2018272

>>2018234
No shit. I just left my job where I only made 133k to a job where I now make 240k. I also get better benefits and can do whatever I want. Never stay at an employer that treats you like dogshit, which most do and have ass workplace culture to boot, resulting in miserable tard coworkers.

No. 2018334

>>2018272
Seeing salaries like this is so crazy to me. I get there's different CoL and burgers have to pay 20k out of pocket if they get into a medical accident but it's still so crazy. What do you even do with that much money

No. 2018339

>>2018334
>What do you even do with that much money
Afford life. I'm actually not in an expensive area compared to the coasts.

>burgers have to pay 20k out of pocket if they get into a medical accident

Off topic but no we don't; that's what insurance is for. Wish this meme would die kek. I've lived in Europe and medical care there is shit compared to America. You get what you pay for.

No. 2018343

>>2018334
It's not just accidents, us burgers write our gross salaries but every month you get a chunk taken out for health insurance (which often doesn't cover well, so if you have actual health issues you often add another chunk of money to the cost. Like I pay $80-300 a month for allergy treatments.) Most areas with salaries that high have high cost of living. You NEED a car, so add a car payment for most people plus gas – our gas is cheaper but we also drive more on avg.
Food is pricy so add that, rent is often $1500-3000 depending, plus your electricity, water, internet, phone (internet in particular is often a local monopoly and can have nasty prices/get randomly jacked up or they do stuff like force cable bundles.) You need a chunk taken out for social security (retirement), other retirement funds, local (state, sometimes city and neighborhood association) and federal taxes as well. Most salaries like that also needed a college degree so add loan payments of $100-500.
This is all napkin math obvs but I hope that helps illustrate how it can evaporate fast.
>>2018339
I had good insurance in college and I had to pay $5k for an emergency visit like 10 years ago. My friends thought I was having a heart attack, took 4 hours for them to see me and I didn't even recieve any kind of meds, scans or treatment. My friend's birth like 4 years ago (with insurance) still cost her like $20k out of pocket. She had complications and needed an emergency c section plus hospital stay but it was still appalling.

No. 2018352

>>2018343
This is not the thread for this. It's expensive to live anywhere right now. Gas is cheap cheap cheap in America compared to Europe. 30 bucks to fill up a tank vs 150 in Sweden.

>Most areas with salaries that high have high cost of living

I just said in my previous post I live in the middle of America. It's not HCOL.

No. 2018723

I think I'm over working in a public school system. The burnout is incredibly high this year and I've had to cover so many classrooms in the last two weeks that I can barely work on anything I was actually hired to do.

No. 2018784

>>2018272
can i ask what field you're in?

No. 2018803

I'm an admin at my company and I was asked to help our legal department a few months ago but I had to step back from it because I have my own shit to do. The head of legal was trying to get me back to helping them but the office director (one of the executives I support) told him to fuck off kek.

No. 2020177

Amerifag here. I filed a report months ago to the eeoc and they finally got back to me. I detailed two counts of sexual harrasment from two different people and hr gaslighting me and making me cry by trying to tell me I'm being paranoid when I stupidly tried seeing if they would give me a paper or something stating I reported it in case he kept harassing me or did something outside of work, because he had previous threats against his prior workplace yet they claim "that never happened we did a background check". The hr manager has been a huge bitch and singles me out to be passive aggressive the few times I've seen her since. I'm terrified of ever going back into that office again and being pressured into talking about my eeoc filing now that the process has started, unless they knew months before when I first filed bc it claims they give notice in 10 days? The whole situation with hr is giving me huge anxiety and reliving how I awful I felt before. The thing is, I'm terrible at talking. I naturally cuss too much, I get brainfog and anxious so I can't form sentences without using filler words or getting shaky. Do any professional nonnies have advice for me to learn how to manage my thoughts and speaking abilities? How to stay composed? How to deal with this whole situation? I don't want to come off as aggressive or give fault to my character by my lack of social skills.

No. 2024278

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Should I take another call center job and look for something better in the meantime?

It's like there are no fucking jobs anywhere - it's either waitressing or they require you to have a phd/10 years of experience and no one wants to actually train you. I've been looking for 3 months now and it's the same shit over and over.

I have the chance to bag this call centre job, but I know how shit they are and my last one made me want to kill myself. What's worse is that the training is on site, meaning I have to travel by public transport for almost 2 hours to get there, the training is 8 hours and then additional almost 2 hours to get home. All for MAYBE 1k€. After a month or two I'd be able to wfh but spending 12 hours somewhere knowing I won't even be able to eat pisses me off so fucking much and of course by the time I get home I won't be able to do even basic chores. Everyone keeps pushing me to accept the job but I'm so tired of working at dead end places for shit pay while also being too retarded to actually gain any new skill/education etc that could land me in a better job opportunity.

No. 2024300

>>2024278
>while also being too retarded to actually gain any new skill/education etc that could land me in a better job opportunity
really because anyone could do a healthcare trade program or get an education license or something. not that those fields of work are extremely desirable, but if you're at the point of considering being verbally abused in a slave wage call center than you won't even have good transportation to for up to 2 months…

No. 2024313

>>2024300
>healthcare trade program or get an education license
No idea what the first thing is but both healtcare/medical stuff and education related things only work here if you have a 4 year degree or a connection. I can't take 4 years off for that and student jobs don't cover everything. I finished business school and switched to IT (tech support & frontend dev) so it's not like I didn't try to switch to something else, it's just that there's 0 demand for any of that here

No. 2024318

>>2024278
Look into education programs that'll train you while working the job you're getting certified for, most of the time you're even getting paid. Usually you have to stay with the employer that's training you for a few years. I'm a Eurofag too, I'm sure there's something similiar in your country.

No. 2024350

>>2024318
Is there a specific name for this? Other than apprenticeship?

No. 2024454

I made a huge mistake when choosing my major. I hate my job and my field. Everyone used to say "it's ok if you choose wrong, you're young, it's never too late to change" but that's a fucking lie. Heads up, anons, by studying higher education you are selling your soul and you'll never get it back. You'll have to work with it forever, even if you hate it, even if you want to kill yourself over it, it's fucking over.

No. 2024701

>Everyone used to say "it's ok if you choose wrong, you're young, it's never too late to change" but that's a fucking lie.
Why? I’m currently in the process of changing my field. I acknowledge I’m in a fortunate financial situation though.

No. 2024747

>>2024701
Obviously I meant to reply to >>2024454. for fuck's sake.

No. 2024784

>>2024747
People are aware, just nobody's taking the bait

No. 2025168

Mostly complaining but my job is stupid boring and it makes me restless. I always thought a 9-5 with nothing to do would be my dream job but now I just feel like I'm wasting away. Every day I think about doing more degrees, or an apprenticeship just to get me out of this admin hell hole. I take on extra work and get less work as a result because my manager doesn't want to overwhelm my workload. I'm not allowed to do non-work things at. I posted in a previous thread about writing fanfic on company time and thats the ONLY thing I haven't been written up over. I want to be able to draw and learn and work on things that isn't fucking fanfiction kek, but I don't want to get in trouble. I wish the upper management in hospo wasn't full of the worst people on Earth because I prefer that to white collar work.

No. 2025644

>>2025168 here, I got written up for it just now. Putting in my two-weeks ASAP, thank god I had another job on the backburner.

No. 2026077

>>2024701
Nta but like
>I acknowledge I’m in a fortunate financial situation though.
You answered your own question. You need money and/or parents or a partner to fall back on.

I too went back to school in my mid twenties because I chose wrong and it caused a massive financial set back (and a general delay in personal development honestly).

No. 2026083

Have a "short, informal interview" tomorrow for an internship. What can I expect? Will they ask me the usual interview questions where I have to sell/prove myself or is it something else

No. 2026171

>>2026083
It's impossible to say, especially without any additional context about what it's for. It would be in your best interest to prepare for it as if it's an interview, e.g. mentally preparing a case study or two (the context, the problem, the process you went through to solve it, the outcome), brushing up on your domain knowledge, and what you'll say on the standard questions they ask to see if you're difficult to work with.

No. 2028031

terrible week at work. my boss keeps complimenting me for being cool headed but in truth there is just nothing going on behind my eyes. i don’t know what i’m doing at this point but i will continue on until the jig is up

No. 2028136

>>2025168
fuck… nonnie this was me for the last 6 months. when I finally quit that micromanagement bullshit job hellhole I felt a sense of relief I hadn't felt since leaving high school. I hope your new job is so much better!

No. 2028140

>>2013900
When in doubt, go for the job you might potentially feel better in. If your current job is making you feel like shit that's only going to get worse, and if it's not impacting your personal/social life now, it will be (from an anon who had a shit tier job)

No. 2028668

I went through 3 different grueling jobs over the course of several years where my supervisors all told me I was incompetent, slow working, and a terrible communicator, no matter how hard I tried and how hard I worked myself to the bone. It totally destroyed my confidence in myself– I had graduated with a 4.0 and had thought I was a competent and responsible person, but the way my managers characterized me, one after the other, made me rethink all of that. One is bad luck for getting a bad manager, two is getting a little weird, and three means it's definitely my fault, right?

Well, last year I landed the easiest job I have ever done in my life through sheer luck. I hardly have to do anything at all, and literally everyone around me and all of my many supervisors kiss my feet and tell me I am the best ever, a perfect specimen, the best they've ever seen, just for sending some emails or taking basic notes. It is complete whiplash, but I am loving it. I'm a contractor right now and despite the place where I'm contracting taking an out of the blue 35% budget cut and basically being in "necessities only" mode where they're cutting things left and right, all of my supervisors have banded together to hire me on permanently and a good rate. Sometimes I feel like I'm going to wake up and this will have all been a dream. I think the universe must have sensed after I quit my 3rd horrific job that I was serious when I started thinking I might just kill myself if my next job was just as bad.

No. 2028717

I hate the stupid retard people on top of my job so much
I work at a kids theater company in Japan
Recent things:
1) new policy that we can’t take vacations longer than 3 days in a row, even with our earned days off, unless it’s “inevitable circumstance”. Even if all your family lives in this country I guess no such thing as a nice long vacation? Anyways I want to visit friends and fam back home with my saved up days off and during a time when it won’t affect the company but because of this policy I have to write a proposal. A proposal to take a vacation. I paid to hold the cheap flight price I found but of course the bosses have not responded at all in a week.
2) we are doing Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (already awful but add in everyone being monolingual Asian kids and just imagine the confusion) again and my area only has one qualified boy to play the MC and he’s still a mid singer, and plenty of skilled girls who would kill the role. But nooooo boss (who is in another city) says MC has to be played by a boy…we are not Broadway. We are a shiddy little after school activity that pays fast food wages. No one besides the parents see our shows. Get real

Plus it’s just so clear the half assed content we get to teach (which is always late) is decided on and made by people who don’t speak English and don’t actually do the lessons. Been here for almost 5 years and it spiralled after covid, so annoying I’ll just quit if I don’t get vacation.

No. 2028756

I'm submitting a very important application today: job isn't permanent, but it's absolutely perfect for my skillset and what I need right now. If you have a moment nonas, spare a thought for me, because I am really afraid to submit it… I don't have it in me to explain why, I'm just terrified.

No. 2028763

After maybe 7 or 8 months of unemployment, I finally got a job offer. I'm very grateful and excited. The CEO sent me the formal offer letter last Tuesday asking me to review and to let him know if everything is okay. I replied that it's all good but that doesn't mean he was asking me to sign it, right? Only for me to review? So I haven't signed it and still waiting for him to reply/for his response. And he still hasn't replied and it's already Friday… what's up with that? I'm super anxious. I was thinking of being initiative like signing it right away and send it to him but that doesn't seem right…

No. 2028869

>>2028756
Good luck!

No. 2028876

We're all bored in the office right now so my coworkers are talking about how they raise kids and how they were raised and I swear to god I hate these ghetto bitches so much. I really don't need to hear about how beating the shit out of your kids but not hard enough to leave bruises is good and how teenagers should stop being rebellious (which happens because said teenagers are sick of being physically assaulted at home). Now one of them is fondly recalled getting a glass bottles in the eye by her father to cover up for her dad not looking after his young son and letting him get injured. Get me out of here.

No. 2028892

>>2028756
Sending good luck your way anon, let us know if you got it! I totally get feeling anxious especially when the stakes are high

No. 2028914

>>2028892
>>2028869
Thank you so much nonnies, I'm going over my stuff one last time. I'll definitely post if I get an interview. Worried about using a gmail to apply but I really hate my university email… I think I'll just copy my uni address.

No. 2028926

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I have an assessment centre coming up and I'm bricking it. I'm autistic as fuck and struggle to deal with the group dynamics inherent in these things, and I'm worried that my teammates will all be irritating 20-somethings who will judge everything about me. Please reassure me that I'm just being a retard and will smash it (or failing that… please share your advice)

No. 2029131

>>2028763
I would follow up on Monday and send another email asking if he'd like you to sign the contract. Or today, if it's not too late where you are. That's a long time for you not to get a reply, but I think there were various holidays in Europe and the US during the past couple weeks.
>>2028926
I don't know about this, sounds like UK stuff. I was managed by a bunch of awkward males in the UK so we never did anything social at all as a team except have lunch a couple times. What kind of activities will you have to do?
>>2028914
I'm this anon and I sent my application. Got a received reply from the system so I'm glad for that small comfort. omg please just let me get this position because it will make a lot of things easier for me and I will be able to look for a permanent job while doing this one.

No. 2029244

>>2029131
UK anon here, looks like we have some mysterious 'group projects' but they haven't specified what. It's scary as this is part of the recruiting process and I know they'll be watching me for 5 hours…

No. 2029246

I spent so much time, effort and money getting a psych degree but now that I'm actually working in the field I am constantly overcome with anxiety about making mistakes and doing things wrong without realizing. Impostor syndrome is real, I feel like I'm one grave error away from being exposed as a fraud. Like the only reason my way more experienced and skilled colleagues haven't realized I'm actually garbage yet is through sheer luck.
With previous jobs it wasn't so bad because it didn't matter that much to me if I made some mistakes. Now that I'm actually working with vulnerable patients it's completely different, I'm acutely aware that my professional actions and decisions directly affect the mental wellbeing of the people I interact with. It's a huge responsibility and I feel like every time I stumble I'm committing some kind of crime that should get me fired and dishonorably discharged from existence.
It's hard to convince myself it's even impostor syndrome and not me genuinely being terrible. Everyone around me seems to have their shit together and never make any mistakes. I really am passionate about the work I do, I just want to do it right so badly that I end up spiraling.

No. 2029258

>>2029244
holy cow, what sort of job is this, are you going to be experimented on? I think you'll be ok. I would try to think of a couple topics you feel comfortable using for small talk as needed. Group activities often lack an "active listener" so maybe you can be the person who is keeping track of what everyone is saying and the different perspectives? But I have no idea what they are going to observe you doing, lol. I'm so curious, is it for sales or an office job or… is it like one of those summer jobs for charity?

Sorry i'm going through some UK bureaucracy atm and the bureaucratic / work language used is so convoluted or jargony, I never know if anything said to me is serious or not. Safeguarding, signposting, advocacy, coercive control, etc. it all sounds v serious

No. 2029283

>>2029131
He’s in Australia, maybe I should check if there are holidays there for this pas week? And that sounds like a pretty good idea. Thanks nona

No. 2029332

how are moids so blind. one of my coworkers sent me a picture of his receipts for work and there was a tit pic in the screenshot. theyre so lucky im diligent and notice this shit before submitting it to our bosses kek

No. 2029415

>>2029258
UK anon here again, sorry you have to deal with our nonsense bureaucracy (trust me when I say that none of us 'locals' understand it either!!) It's largely corporatespeak terms for basic law and order stuff.

This is basically a job interview, so I'm going to try and research well beforehand! I hate this stupid process but it's de facto for most good grad jobs so what can ya do? It's an entry level Finance program, should be for 3 years while I sit some exams. Hopefully it'll get me started in something that's not as soul crushing as admin (no shade, I just hated my previous jobs because of constant boredom!)

No. 2029431

>>2029332
You're nicer than I would've been.

No. 2029449

>>2029332
Nona are you sure he didn't do that on purpose…. Men are pigs. At my retail job this old scrote was scrolling through his camera roll to "find" a picture of whatever he wanted and of course he scrolls by a downloaded porn video. I hope your co-worker is just retarded.

No. 2029454

>>2029332
you should let them forward this shit. if your boss says it's your responsability to tard wrangle them tell your boss putting porn on work related material is sexual harassment plain and simple.

No. 2029529

>>2004659
the guy won, im fuming

No. 2030275

It’s already June and i’m still trying to find another job!! Why the hell is it so harddd to get picked for one

No. 2030284

>>2029332
he 100% did it on purpose you should report him for exposing you to pornography at work. what a fucking stupid pervert, he deserves what he gets. can't believe you're covering for him.

No. 2030301

>>2029529
I'm raging for you, nona. This is insane. Can you expose him at all?

No. 2030315

>>2005397
idk what country in europe you're in but it's definitely illegal in some places eg france.
>>2029332
report him lmao

No. 2030986

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i'm so sad, anons. i've landed a good job with a cushy pay and not much stress and lots of free time because i live in walking distance. i'm basically employed by the government itself and i have tons of networking opportunities, people are incredibly nice when they hear who i work for, my boss is great, and i just really enjoy my job.

but my coworkers are pieces of shit. namely my direct coworker with whom i share an office and the only male coworker in the other office. the moid is a shitstirrer and hates another woman who works in the office space (we are 4 separate offices using the same office space but working for 4 mostly separate bosses) to the point of bullying her. he yells at her when he has to do anything for her (which is part of his job), hides her packages, and talks shit about her constantly. he can't even say hello to her. the female coworker is double my age and has narcissistic tendencies. she constantly berates me and criticizes every little thing that i do. when she's in a bad mood she'll suddenly decide that something she praised me for is bad actually and will give me shit for it. she also throws tantrums whenever i try to put up boundaries because her behavior is unacceptable and unprofessional. i admit that i am not perfect and i have a tendency to get annoyed easily. she brought this up with my boss and he told me to relax a bit, but he also told my female coworker to not be so annoying in return.

things went well since that conversation with our boss a month ago. until the moid coworker decided that me getting along with the coworker he hates is unacceptable and conjured some lie about me ditching work in favor of talking to that coworker. both of them called me out during our team meeting but i didn't let this fly and defended myself and told them to cut this shit out. i also called out the lies which made him very flustered. my female coworker then brought up the fact that i said i don't want to spend time with her in private and that this hurt her feelings. i told her that she can't force me to be friends with her but that i want to keep things professional between us. and that i had felt that things were going well the past few weeks but once again she's doing something that makes me dislike her even more. i basically told them that they can't control my private life and my friendships.

a few days later i went to an event and both of them were there. i greeted them and both of them ignored me even when i stood right in front of them. that's when i realized i can't work there anymore. they're just too childish and petty and downright evil. i have a long weekend off and instead of enjoying it i've been crying on and off all evening. i just don't want to go to work on monday and be put on trial again for the crime of being friends with someone both of them hate for no reason at all. the bullying is childish and stupid but i'm so sad that i have to leave to protect myself because i really liked this job. i thought i had finally found my forever job and now i have to start searching again when finding work is so hard right now. before this job i was on the hunt for over a year while sticking with a miserable job that i hated in a city that i hated even more.

i know there will always be shitty people at every job but this level of evil has got to be a one time thing…

No. 2032099

>>2030301
unfortunalty not when i left my old job i handed back the work laptop it would be on there
it would be my word against his
and him winning makes them look good so they wouldnt want it exposed

No. 2032115

Anyone here an out-of-work game programmer who wants to work on a little Metroidvania game idea with me?

No. 2032118

>>2030986
Why can't you just complain to their bosses? Tell them that they're creating a hostile work environment for you and that it's affecting your output tremendously. Remember: when complaining about coworkers, never spin it as "they're being assholes", but as "they're slowing my work down". Make it sound like YOU want to get work done, but they're making it hard. And if their bosses don't listen to you, then go to someone in a higher position than that. You need to stand up for yourself by making sure that these people know that you want to contribute and do your job, but that you can't. That you've tried to keep the peace, but it's becoming impossible.

No. 2033438

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Job interview went well.
>only one morning shift 7am-3pm
>M-F only
>travel expenses paid
>worked already nearby so I know the area

However, the pay is absolute shit. It's minimum wage. I'd also we surrounded by disabled and mentally ill elderly people. They said to only take the job if I'm serious about it, but the pay is off putting, I can deal with everything else. I hate this shit so much oh my god

No. 2033441

>>2033438
You can take it and keep looking for something better in the meanwhile.

No. 2033463

>>2033441
I don't want to fuck over social workers

No. 2033564

i started a new job 2 months ago and a guy who had been there for years just resigned because management was constantly pissed over him trying to behave like a manager. liars like this guy are always controversial people in their circles because they get some people "on their side" by manipulating them while the ones who know they're always bullshitting don't like them. i am not happy he left when our office is understaffed but i'm also glad he left because his true nature sounds awful and i don't appreciate that he tried to manipulate me too.
>anon i'm afraid they're going to compare you to the new girl
i said okay? there's nothing i can do about that and it's something people can't help but do. and they likely aren't going to do that in front of me
>calmly tells me i should wear my uniform more professionally, we had an actual chill conversation about it and he told management he "let me have it"??? they were pissed at him anyway and don't even care about my uniform and said to completely disregard anything he says.
i bet this fuck thought he had my number and could make me cry or something lol then found out i am not the kind of person i can come off as because i can be really quiet and meek when in a new place. i'm not a bitch or a baby, i am really chill and can take criticism very easily. he even pretended that other people were complaining about my uniform too lmao and i said thanks for having the balls to tell me to my face, i didn't know it was an issue. i am absolutely sure he wanted to get off on making the new girl cry or something to "prove" i can't handle the job.
>"i'm trying to help you succeed anon, there are people here who don't want you to succeed because they enjoy feeling like no one else can do their job"
bro i am fairly certain THAT PERSON IS YOU lmfao. i said to him "you have to understand that since i'm new i have to take all the comments people make like that with a grain of salt, not in a personal way but because people tell me different things". now that i know more of the story (other coworkers brought it up to me that he bitched that my jacket is oversized and they both said they do not give a fuck at all and told him they don't care).
funny how women are accused of being dramatic in the workspace when for me it's been the opposite. most women at my job are based and chill, the men are crybabies that likely feel emasculated working a public service job that requires fervent emotional stability, and is also primarily women in the office. and i bet their male friends all make more than them and they seethe about it and take it out on women who genuinely wanted to work this job as it's a unique and interesting field. i'm salty the guy who trained me barely acknowledges me when he comes in too, i wonder if it was (non-management) males all along who get off on feeling that young college graduate women simply can't do their job because when we show we can they feel their balls shrink and they're mad they don't make as much as their engineer bro friends. suck it up cunt, some of us actually wanted to enter this field and help families and provide a meaningful service, we all know we aren't going to be millionaires. men are such babies (except one guy there who is super chill and loves the job).

No. 2033708

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I feel stuck. I got a useless degree and have been working in paperpusher admin jobs. I want to study something more marketable but I just cannot force myself to it. I started a software testing course some time ago, but just cannot wrap my head around it. I feel like the only things my brain could manage to master are completely unmarketable bullshit humanities subjects (art history, library studies, illustration, etc). Ah, the classic 'do I want to starve but be happy or suffer but have money?' dilemma

No. 2033875

>>2028763
samefag, he still hasn't replied and someone advised me to just sign the contract and send it back to him. Because they think by asking me to review it = he also wants me to sign it. So yeah, I did. And he still hasn't fucking replied. Wtf is this, at least give me an update, or respond to me, like saying okay I got it or something like that. Goddammit.

No. 2035025

>>2033463
Think about yourself first, they do too otherwise they'd be paying you a wage you can actually live off.

No. 2035204

Long, sorry. My company threw me into an unprofessional situation and it's been hard to deal with while playing "professional" about it.
My manager manipulated me into handling an out-of-state account after the prior manager there quit without notice in order to avoid being fired. The other nepotism manager at my level wasn't volunteering, so I agreed to go after my boss teased a good performance evaluation aka a raise–which is not unfounded since it is an open fact I have the most expertise and competence behind my boss for our region. My name is known in our company. He often talks about me as a replacement once he retires. Anyways, I thought I would be helping out the account for a week at most, but now it's been going on almost a month and I realize that they never gave me a definitive timeline of going home before. Yet now my boss is saying it's until I hire and train the new manager which they are still screening for. Fortunately, I have a great team at home–who were my hires that I trained–to hold down the accounts back at base which I am also expected to remotely manage. But I digress.
Nonetheless, it's very obvious why prior manager was going to be fired:
>rampant timecard theft, people just clocking in and out from their cars while going home during their service job shift
>child labor
>manager was never onsite
>did not order approved supplies/barely ordered anything for employees
>when manager was onsite he'd spend all his time playing games like osrs on his laptop (found his herb skill notes scrawled on the back of an equipment manual) while pretending to be busy
>he even pulled this with me when I came down to train his team on separate occasions and acted like he didn't have to know or participate in what I was teaching like a proper mongomoid
>client dangling their multi-million dollar contract in my face while politely advising me that our company has not fulfilled contract scope since we started
>client literally telling me they are aware of the timecard thieves and implying the reason they do not fire us and hire another contractor is due to the inconvenience..so they are expecting me to fix it
>and a corporate walkthrough and several client inspections due the next week after he quit leaving me with only the weekend to recover an account site with a crew giving me the runaround cause they liked getting paid to not work
Somehow I survived the inspections and walkthrough, but only because I have been onsite every day to show a good faith effort to improve things. This translated to 12-16hr days my first week arriving because there are multiple buildings, 1st/2nd/3rd shifts, and weekends. Emergency supply runs, employees and client hiding supplies or stealing supplies. People fucking with me in general, fielding all of the pent-up grievances from employees which was just smoke and mirrors in hindsight because they could distract and not work while venting towards me. Handling all of this while being unfamiliar with the account myself and learning as I went along (no notes from prior moid manager and a disorganized office, nothing set up), and me just only being one person while I couldn't even trust these site supervisors and employees who are treating me like a monster since I'm in town cause they fucked up.

Oh, and emphasis on the majority of these employees being hot pissed at me for asking them to do their jobs. They have gotten away with the timecard theft for so long that my asking them to report to work on time and perform something in their scope feels like literal oppression to them. Why does my company not want to terminate for the theft? Cause it's less of an HR headache for them if they can just blame the prior manager and let me be the sacrificial lamb to catch the worst offenders myself if it means we don't have to mass fire & hire. The problem is with how busy I am just trying to get the site functional and organized, I don't have the hours to spare to be chasing after 40+ people and writing disciplinary reports! Most of the employees cannot even larp as good while the boss is in town because they're emboldened shits cause of what they have gotten away with.
They took the HR numbers, from the employee information posters I hung up for them when I arrived, and are trying to frame me to get me removed or fired from site which lmaooooooo will never happen even if I was being literal Hitler.
A shame because I'm actually a pretty chill manager being that I used to be an employee like they are with my only hard stops being literal theft and abuse lol fuck me.
They shit on the prior manager for not doing anything for them. Except when it suits their narrative, they paint him as an innocent babu manager who never got no help when they want to keep the unofficial shit he supposedly promised them, like nonsensical schedules and times off.
Now they wanna shit on me because I am being involved for them and proving that it is possible to get things done without being spoonfed. That it is possible to be fair and that policies exist to enforce that culture. It does mean I am onsite a lot and that I want to know where the teams are because…I am the manager.
Of course they hate me. Some of them aren't even subtle. One was baiting saying the N word about her coworkers in front of me hoping I would repeat it or agree cause she was secretly recording me. The same one is actively asking everyone who reports to her shift to walk off or quit to…punish me by leaving a job that none of them actually performed minimally thus would make no manner of difference at this point?
A grown ass man got pissed at me for writing him up cause I caught him bringing his little boy to work to do his job for him. Same man then cussed me out and fucking cried when I only asked him to work on one floor a night in a giant building where a normal employee could get through several…he is the floor technician.
God I hope they quit cause I would rather hire and train new folks than deal with these assholes and chase them with writeups.
Even the ex manager, who mysteriously could not be contacted after he quit, was within five minutes blowing up my personal cell phone with abuses after he heard I was "talking shit." All I did was ask his mom to come to work–don't ask me how his mother was allowed to report to her manager son but you see the corruption here–and she got mad at me when I insisted she report because her son having given her permission to only work two days a week when the site was in such deliquency thanks to him was not going to fly. I got boymom-screamed at for that one but at least it gave me what I needed to remove that cunt from site and to get retard to drop his mask once and for all. Hate how everyone waves that he is a "28 year old kid" in my face as if I am some overexperienced hag at 32 who should be more patient towards a thief and a liar.
Maybe if I were a manager with a penis my observations would be taken more seriously and be shown more respect. Maybe people would do backflips and kiss my ass, instead of being upset that I am a young female telling them what to do because I ate massive shit to earn where I am now.
So I am done shedding tears over this account and its people. My boss even reassured me that even if we lost the account it's not like my company would fire me so I should not worry so much.
He's right. That's why I am telling them I am returning home after this week.

No. 2035210

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>>2033438
Hell no you can make more working gig economy apps than minimum wage or at least work somewhere way easier

No. 2035269

I work a admittedly cushy WFH job that requires limited effort and pays alright, but I'm getting to the point where I'm considering going back to working in kitchens as a cook because of the weird formalities, HR lingo and strangely insecure coworkers.
Our boss is an ADHD mess with an ego - meaning she needs to sign off on everything (because of course she's the boss and won't let you forget it!)yet would forget where her head was if it wasn't attached to her neck. She's so scattered and lost yet also extremely sensitive and cannot take suggestions or criticism. Unfortunately she's also great at office politics and is British, so has this amazing way with the large company bureaucracy and using HR speak to gaslight the entire team. She's not particularly clever though, so we planned a coup but people flaked (naturally, she'd go full mask off if she found out prematurely) and now we're back where we started with this bull in a china shop who loves to wear yellow and micromanage meaningless decisions instead of actually doing her job. At least in kitchens you have a task, you complete the task, you can talk shit to your coked out coworker, and you get to skip the corporate bullshit where they wax poetic about wellbeing and force feed you lukewarm tolerance training while simultaneously causing several suicides (legitimately).

No. 2035281

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>>2028756
I got an interview, nonas! Your kind thoughts worked! Think more kind thoughts for tomorrow, please. Now I'm scared again, ofc.

No. 2035286

>>2035281
Hope whoever is interviewing you is kind and calm and makes you feel at ease! You got this

No. 2035287

>>2035204
>he'd spend all his time playing games like osrs on his laptop
based

No. 2035314

>>2035287
I saw his skill notes anon, he played definitely not based kek.

No. 2035427

I'm not a contractor, I am a full time employee with a W2 and health insurance, but I work for a job that takes contracts from the state. And coming up July 1st, I may be without a job. The only feeling I have is "okay". I can't fight it. And honestly, I would rather the people working for CPS for 17$/hr that have to juggle 30 abused children cases a day get a raise over myself, who just operates a phone in comparison. The only thing that really bothers me is that there's no clear way for me to voice these issues to the people that actually provide the money. The company is structured so the workers don't have contact with the ones with that ultimately decide the work. Such is life

No. 2035442

i dont know why i accepted the offer to be the first aid attendant at my work. i'm probably the worst first aider of all time and the guilt ive felt the couple time's ive had people come to me with (pretty minor, at least) injuries and i've not really been able to do anything for them makes me feel like a useless fuck. the $80 extra on my paycheques isn't worth it. i just need to wait for my certificate to expire in 2026 and i'm never doing that shit again

No. 2035643

Years ago I would often bitching that I never managed to get a part time job as a student until my very last year of uni which I really needed back then and anons were posting shit like "just look for a job" but I just realized how insanely easy it must be to get a shit job in a country with at will employment. Because if the employers want to get rid of the employees they easily can. Where I am it can be hard to fire an employee so plenty of companies would rather be understaffed all the time than risk hiring someone, paying a shit ton of taxes for it and not being able to fire that employee if unless there are extreme circumstances.

I have a qualified job now and I'm seeing the same situation for the other point of view, my team and I are always short staffed and overworked and nobody wants to hire new people. But they also don't want to keep the employees who are about to leave after their last contracts end because legally they would be forced to keep these people with a permanent contract and nothing else and my company is too stingy to do that. I don't want to stay here forever, it's exhausting, this company is a sinking ship, but just thinking about how I could potentially look for a job for years and not get one just by being underestimated by hiring managers again scares the shit out of me. A friend of mine has been looking for a new job for nearly a year and nobody wants her for that reason, if it weren't for her parents she would be homeless right now as a result. It's scary. I'm not looking for advice, I'm just venting a little.

No. 2035796

>>2035314
im close to getting 99 herb myself it is based

No. 2036339

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> finally land job after 8+ months of searching and being unemployed
> a few bucks less than my old job but fully WFH
> during final interview process get a reachout from company I applied to half a year ago
> dream job, dream company, amazing pay
> get offer from initial company and say yes because literally no choice I am broke
> able to push back start date a bit to continue interviewing with dream job
> get asked to do final interview
> same day that I start first job

I have no idea how I'm gonna make this work anons lol, this would happen after almost a year of searching with barely any bites. I'm so grateful to have any job at all after so long and I can't afford to fuck up and lose it, but I can't miss this interview. This other position would be genuinely life changing if I got it. Thinking of saying I have internet issues or something for a couple hours, didn't receive my company computer in time, or asking if I can head out a little early. It won't be the best impression on my first day, but I don't think I have any other option.

No. 2036346

>>2036339
>Thinking of saying I have internet issues or something for a couple hours, didn't receive my company computer in time, or asking if I can head out a little early
NO. NO NO NO. Never ever use excuses that will let your bosses offer a side-solution. I had a shitty boss in the past who actually blamed ME for my laptop inexplicably dying (long story short, it permanently died, I had to text the company CEO to let him know what had happened, my boss suggested I go to a fucking internet cafe, we don't even have those where I am). Always use an excuse that not only is unavoidable, but makes you seem like a good, dedicated worker. In other words, health issue. Tell them you woke up with a migraine but you took migraine meds, so you'll be okay in an hour or so (and this will also give you the excuse to take it a bit easy).

No. 2036867

Interview over. It was difficult. I can't say what, but they tested a specialized skill. I prepared as much as one can for having something random put in front of you. I hate making mistakes in front of people judging me. That said, I still don't believe anyone even in the broader area I am in, or their broader field, can do that perfectly or even well on the spot. Only a handful of seasoned experts could, and they aren't in the pool of applicants. Once I was halfway through, I got more used to it and could do it faster with fewer problems. I'm not used to doing this "out loud" either. It's not really something you speak out loud. (Sorry I can't be specific nonas, before I die, whenever it is, I'll come back and dox myself, but not today)

But I can only lie here and think about my mistakes now. There was virtually no small talk, the interview was only about this skill, more or less. (I knew it would include testing this thing.) I said why I wanted the position and my background, and asked a few questions. The more I think, the more I wish I weren't so fucking awkward.

damn I really need a new job right now though. And who else is even qualified to do it?? It's three moids, they might have some guy earmarked for the position already I guess.

No. 2037860

Has anyone had experience in a dry cleaning business? I applied to be an admin there and the role seems full on, orders, emailing, calls, etc. I get overwhelmed with too much work but I don't know if I'm just overthinking it.

No. 2038134

>>2037860
Personally, I'd be really worried about working around all those chemicals. Maybe I am just paranoid and everyone there is fine, though. Or is it a place that sends the clothes somewhere else to be cleaned?

Otherwise it sounds like a typical customer service job. You might have to deal with some difficult people, are you able to do that? Now I sort of hope you will take it and make a thread about all the weird and wonderful stuff that gets cleaned there.

No. 2038142

>>2038134
Yeah they send them somewhere else, and its also seperated, a front area for admin and the back is all for pressing I believe.

Yeah I can handle a difficult customer, I just have problems learning things quickly and retaining info. But I'm hoping it will be okay…
And lol yes I'll do that, their clients are actually news stations and luxury brands so it should be interesting.

No. 2038524

I put in my notice. July is my last month of employment and I don't have anything lined up because I wanna go back to college and change areas. I hate my field, I hate how it's supposed to be your hobby as well, how it's expected that you'll finish your day of work and go right into your personal project or watch live coding streams or read up on the latest lib and shit like that. I don't feel any love for this field, keeping up with it is a chore and it feels like it's supposed to dominate your whole life. I'm gonna try to join my current experience with my artistic side (which I've always had but my parents forbade me from studying art or design or anything because it doesn't make money) and do a 2 year gamedev course. I've always loved video games, they're my favorite form of art. I really feel like this is the right choice for me, but I'm terrified too.

No. 2038780

>>2018034
I'm also a suicidal lawfag who once considered going to art school albeit in the UK. I'm not sure if it's the firm I'm at but this profession seems to attract turbonormies and I suspect they can sniff out my autism immediately

No. 2038794

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>>2018034
lawfag here too and i hate it. the jobs are soulsucking and im not normie enough for most recruiters. should have majored in history like i wanted

No. 2038878

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Does anyone else in the field of environmental science feel like we basically have an expectation to volunteer our labor extensively before being hired, even at a small internship position, etc? I'm a junior right now and I'm frustrated because I'm basically about to volunteer all summer doing manual labor in 100+ degree weather, just because I'm desperate to accrew experience… I feel like the organizations know that people will resort to this, or are passionate enough to do it that they just expect it, so it's impossible to find beginner positions doing anything. Maybe it's just me though… I'm especially frustrated because volunteering means I can't even make up the expense for purchasing the necessary gear & gas money to get to the park. Hopefully next summer is better…

No. 2038963

>>2038524
Honestly, gamedev turned out to be even more soul sucking than anything else. If you hate this personal after work project culture, you are just going to get the same shit on steroids in gamedev anyway. Like you have to constantly improve and grow, do projects, network like crazy and tons of other shit to just be tossed aside cus there are way better and more experienced people than you applied already. It's impossible to get a job in gamedev sometimes it seems. I got a massive burnout from just trying to get a job as a freshly graduated person and I'm one of the best students in my class and I started the search two years ago, when I still was a student.
Sorry if it terrified you more, but this shit makes me suicidal.

No. 2039785

How do you deal with an underachieving long-timer coworker who is possibly threatened by you? It’s my first few days at my new job as an analyst and the lead analyst took me to lunch. I thought we would talk about our personal lives a bit and build rapport like normal but the entire time we were there she was going on about how there’s no way I’ll ever be promoted and that there’s no potential in this team to go elsewhere and that I’m better off in finding another department. She’s finally been promoted to lead analyst after someone else left and 8 years in the analyst role; it’s pretty obvious that she’s not going to be promoted to manager unless she stays there like 5 more years and everyone else leaves. She’s the type of person who has the job because she’s comfortable there, not because she has the desire to actually become a leader in the org.
After the lunch I told her “thanks” meanwhile I felt a ton of dread and anxiety from what she said, like I have to start thinking of how to get out of here. I’ve cooled down now and I’m just thinking that this is sort of weird that she would spend a lunch to tell me in my first week that the job is a dead-end and that I’m better off somewhere else in another department. It’s not like she’s miserable in this job and doing me a favor. She said she wants to stay here for as long as she can but she’s set on being a manager even though she clearly doesn’t have management skills. When she was training me she would say things like “most people wouldn’t teach you how to do these things hehe but I will”. Like you should be excited to train someone because it’s your opportunity to show your boss that you can do it? I have trained people before and would never say anything like that, even joking around. It rubs me the wrong way.

So now I have a meeting with one of our bosses and I’m thinking of bringing up the conversation to him because potential growth in this organization and team was one of the things I was really excited for. I wasn’t going to be too dramatic but just be like “I want to make sure we’re on the same page about potential here, within the organization. Normally I wouldn’t be too worried in the first few weeks or first year even but I didn’t know if it should concern me since it was brought up to me in my first few days of working here. I don’t want to assume anything and I know things can change so I will just continue to keep working hard in the meantime.” Does this sound good? What would you guys do? My contact who worked there said that I will easily surpass this woman but I don’t know how exactly that would happen as she’s occupying the lead analyst role already.

No. 2039813

>>2038878
Yep! Not in Env Science but a related field, currently working in research. I love love love my job but it's a constant struggle of will they won't they with extending my contract, getting funding for my project and not starving the following month. My salary is subpar, thankfully there is no drama at work or weird hierarchical pissing contests and I enjoy field work very much. But I do feel nobody really respects what we do and the only way to make actual money is to work for Big Oil or a paper mill. I sadly like sleeping easy at night so I can't do that, but it feels like doing anything environmentally conscious in a capitalist hellscape job-wise is just going to get you eating spoonfuls of shit every day.

No. 2039872

>>2038794
nta but im an accounting nonny who ventured into law firm work for a brief moment and wanted to drop dead within a month. shits so stressful and for no reason other than everyones a colossal narcissist with zero accountability. I was literally happier taking angry customer calls than doing that job. they were aghast when I up and left, my degree didn't tether me to their firm or their network luckily.

No. 2040102

Need opinions. I want to quit my job in the next few days, but if I’m being too impulsive I need someone to talk me off of the ledge.

I pretty much just work retail rn. When I started, I was in a specialized department within the store that was related to my degree. The person who runs that department is a bit of a schizo and about a month or so ago, she blew up on me over nothing. The store managers told me I did nothing wrong and had a long talk with her because apparently I’m not the first person she’s done that to. But since then, I haven’t been scheduled to work in that department at all. They’ve just had me doing cashiering or giving me busy work around the store that feels utterly pointless. The reason I want to quit in the next few days is that I submitted a request off for my birthday and was denied. I know it’s stupid, but that honestly felt like a breaking point for me. Another part of me feels bad because in the past I’ve always given 2 weeks notice and despite the people I’ve described here, I actually like the majority of my other coworkers and don’t want to leave them on a bad note

No. 2040132

>>2039785
>When she was training me she would say things like “most people wouldn’t teach you how to do these things hehe but I will”.
Maybe I'm missing context here, but she probably was saying that because whoever trained her left a lot of gaps. I would not take a comment like that as anatognistic or negative towards her, it says more about the company that she is mentioning that.

>I wouldn’t be too worried in the first few weeks or first year even but I didn’t know if it should concern me since it was brought up to me in my first few days of working here.

So you said the lunch conversation happened a few days after you started but how long have you been here since?

It's hard for me to accurately say without understand the turnover rate in yout industry, but if you've been there less than 6 months, speaking up and asking about forward mobility would more than likely not affect you positively.

I'm not sure about the situation, but it sounds like you went there in hopes to surpass this colleague based upon your last sentences. You could be overthinking things, or it's clear as day that you are trying to upsurp her hence her inviting you out to lunch.

No. 2040138

>>2040102
Is this one of your first jobs? If you need the reference, leave a 2 week notice, otherwise it doesn't really matter. Even with references, in some states, the workplace can only confirm you've worked there.

No. 2040229

>>2040132
My contact is biased and he said that I would “surpass” her but it’s not really about taking her job—I just want to grow within the organization because I will not be waiting around 5+ years to still be an analyst with no progress in sight. There are some people who have no problem with staying in the same job forever—I am not like that. That’s not because of the money but because I get bored and demoralized if I would have to twiddle my thumbs waiting on a specific person to leave just so I could make progress. Most people stay at my company a long time so counting on someone to leave is not reliable.
And it’s not even about her job specifically either because I want to ideally learn another area that she doesn’t cover. I want to expand my skillset in another role and work more with our other team anyways (to eventually move there). But even hearing that she’s saying there’s no potential on that team either and I will should find another department entirely.
So I won’t bring it up then to my other boss but I am going to remember this going forward. Like it does feel a bit manipulative that she turned an entire lunch into trying to get the new hire to leave. I’m just going to use this as motivation to work even harder.

No. 2040255

>>2040102
Just call off instead of quitting. Don't give a reason outside "it's personal". Easy. Next question.

No. 2040269

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this retarded fucking bobbleheaded moid i work has been disrespecting me and talking down to me like i'm his underling since he started working here a few months back and he's literally too stupid to realize i am held in incredibly high esteem at my company, have been on a rapid upward trajectory and gotten 3 raises and 2 promotions since i got here less than 2 yrs ago, and am regularly pulled into meetings with the c-suite to consult on how to improve our business and advise who the weak links on the team are

im going to fucking bury him kek

No. 2040426

>>2038963
Well right now the industry's in freefall 'cause of all the layoffs, AAA studios bleeding money (rightly so, their games have been shit for the last 10 years). I got laid off back in February, been on unemployment ever since. But right now I'm learning Unity 'cause I want to try making a game on my own. Fuck the industry, make stuff for yourself, anon.

No. 2040723

It’s kind of mind boggling to me how my new manager is a random guy that never even worked in my department before and not the girl who was more qualified and worked here longer than anyone else. They both interviewed for the position and somehow he got it. He was even bragging about how our regional manager and old department manager told him during the interview that they were going to pick him regardless. He’s been here for two weeks and he’s been an hour late everyday, and the other girl quit out of frustration so now it’s just me.

No. 2041190

>>2040269
What kind of things does he say to you

No. 2041288

Nonnies my life sucks.

I spent the first ten years of my adult life in an abusive relationship in a foreign country. (USA) I recently got my work permit and I feel like I can't get a single person to take me seriously. Had an interview at Lowes and thought it went super well but dude just straight ghosted me. Tried following up, just ghosted over and over. Had a group interview at Aldi, I was the only person who showed up at 7:30am so I did it solo. The people who showed up after me were a geriatric woman and a fresh out of high school girl. I just got a rejection email.

My work experience is limited and bizarre but I'm not useless. I had an interview at the YMCA. The lady said she was impressed by my qualifications. The problem? I must have three fucking references. A supervisor, a family member, and someone else. It seems like this is the only place that wants to hire me and I have this stupid blockade. I have nothing and nobody.

Bawling my eyes out bc I didn't get a fucking supermarket job. God damn.

No. 2041313

>>2041288
You have to open up. Explain your situation and play the pity card. Not excessively to the point you seem desperate or like you're lying but enough that the people involved in hiring you develop an emotional investment you

No. 2041423

>>2041288
Get a 2nd simcard and be your own reference.

No. 2042464

I'm trying to prepare for an interview but my mind is going blank when I try to retain buzzwords and sentences I would like to say in order to appear smart.
I will keep revising, but in reality I just hope my mind will go into autopilot and make me sound normal. Thankfully my body language is quite confident so I don't mind making eye contact.
It will be my first proper IRL job at 25 so I'm worried about acquiring multiple references as well.

No. 2043262

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I’m currently a dental assistant. I’ve come to realize I need to make a LOT more money if I want to survive on my own (living solo without roommates, boyfriend, or parents.) What career pivots can I make that will allow me a higher income ceiling? Not interested in becoming a dentist. I was thinking maybe a sales rep for dental equipment or some sort of dental/healthcare tech job, since tech jobs tend to make a lot. Are those high earning?

No. 2043273

>>2043262
Do braces out of the spare room in your apartment

No. 2043287

>>2043273
Unfortunately, I’m not located in Atlanta. Kek

No. 2043308

>>2043287
You'd be rolling in money if you made that move

No. 2043548

>>2043262
Do you want to become a Dental Hygienist? In the US, at least, they make twice as much as Dental Assistants, see this table, around 80k.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/dental-assistants.htm#tab-8
If you want to get into dental sales, start buddying up with all the sales people who come into your office and pump them for info.
But if you're going to go back to school to get an associate's degree, you might as well try for Radiation Therapist. They make around 100k. https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/radiation-therapists.htm#tab-1

>dental/healthcare tech job, since tech jobs tend to make a lot.

It depends on the type of job. If you don't have a lot of experience, then you start off as level 1 service desk (aka computer support specialist), which doesn't make a lot of money, and have to work your way up.
You can see the various IT job categories here: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/

No. 2043562

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Any interview tips? First time and I did a mock interview from some service place and compeletly bombed kek. They said I need to work on selling myself better..
I'm just scared I won't know how to reply stare in silence and hate talking about myself positively..
how in the world do I answer the "tell me bout yourself, nonnie?"

No. 2043646

>>2043562
>hate talking about myself positively..
Ditch this mindset. You shouldn't hate thinking or talking about yourself in a positive way. You're you, nonnie. There's only one of you in existence. You have a set of skills that no one else has. Pretend you're talking to a skinwalking troon about why he could never be you, such as your amazing carpentry skills, or how you once saved a baby bird and nursed it back to health.

No. 2043717

>>2043562
Think about what interviewers want to hear for this specific job and find a way to say this about yourself that seems legit. In the "tell me about yourself" question you just give them a structured way to contextualise what you're about to talk about: where you've been so far (previous study, previous jobs), where you are now (applying to this job why? how does it fit into your career? that's the hardest part to bullshit up but it's important to seem like you genuinely want to be here) and a quick insight into future plans ("I want to grow into X career and learn Y and Z skill, which I saw mentioned in the post for this job and I'm excited about"). They don't want to hear your lifestory, they don't want to know about you in general, they just can't remember what they've read on your resume and want context for the interview.
Also remember to prepare lots of STAR style answers (some common ones, but also for specific interviews re-read the ad and see what qualities/competencies they mention and craft and answer about how you've shown those qualities), once you know your stories you can adapt them to many different questions. I'm a super autist but I've been told I interview very well and I feel it's because I've prepared SO many STAR answers that I can always fall back on a story if I don't know what to say to a question.

No. 2043846

>>2043562
Interviewing is a skill and can be learned. You need two things 1) prepared answers and 2) practice. You need to do more mock interviews. You don't have to go back to that place, just get a friend to ask you interview questions and/or go on interviews to jobs you don't care about. For answers, google common interview questions and answers for the job you want, use the answers to model your own answers and then practice giving those answers until it looks and feels natural.

Also, 'the STAR method is a structured manner of responding to a behavioral-based interview question by discussing the specific situation, task, action, and result of the situation you are describing.'
STAR Method: How to Use This Technique to Ace Your Next Job Interview
https://www.themuse.com/advice/star-interview-method

No. 2044080

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>ad for fullstack junior position
>some backend is fine but we mostly need frontend skills
>proceeds to send a task that is backend only

Why are job ads so fucking retarded? Do you even know what you need in your own fucking company. I'm tempted to just send them a copy paste of the task from some random ass blog

No. 2044109

I'm applying for jobs after a long period of unemployment. The job market here is still recovering, but idk if I could land myself a decent job soon enough. Fingers crossed.
I'm also thinking about getting a second degree, sth tech-related or business/economics seems to be a safe choice. Idk about marketing tho, I hate to be a social butterfly all the time (I can only do it part-time lol).

No. 2044111

I know my manager is going to scold me tomorrow for being stuck on a long term project and I'm super anxious. The company made massive, sudden changes that also require making changes to this project; they'd be easy and quick to do, but I need approval from somewhere higher up and nobody cares enough to give it. This project is also just so much stress and requires so much decision-making, I feel like I shouldn't have been given it as an intern. I feel like my issues are legit, but would it be stupid to express them to my manager? She's usually understanding, but my issues pretty much stem from the company being super disorganised, which she won't want to hear.
My contract will end late next month but I feel like I don't want to end things on a sour note and lose a good reference.

No. 2044139

>>2044111
Don't make it about the company as whole, just focus on you and what you need, for example, say something like, "Because of the changes in the company, I need to change x,y,z in the project. Before the changes happened, I would have contacted X person for approval. After the changes, I don't know what the current process is to get these changes approved. Do you know who I should contact?"

No. 2044159

Nonas please, I need help. Be as harsh as you have to, at this point I just want to figure out which one it is.

Is my boss a bitch or am I the one who's too retarded?

Basically I'm currently interning for a design position in a luxury company (it's not a mainstream one though). It's not my first professional experience, but it's my first experience with that type of company (my prev intership experience was at a tech business). I do all assignments I'm given, always arrive on time, never slack off, always try to be as careful and thorough as possible, but unfortunately sometimes small mistakes slip in. Usually very tiny things like forgetting to add cutting marks on a print file, for example (something that can be corrected with a single click). I've never made any huge mistake, only those small hiccups and I'm always very quick to fix whatever mistake that gets pointed out. Hell, I don't even contest or defend myself, I just nod and start working on fixing it as fast as possible.

My boss however, reacts like they're the biggest mistakes in the world. That I should be more attentive, that it's a "basic skill" and that I shouldn't be making those mistakes because of how silly and basic they are. She claims that I don't pay attention to what I'm doing (I do, to an obsessive degree) and that I don't take notes (I do, on my computer) during briefings and because of that I keep wasting time and stretching projects for longer than they should. She also complains that I never ask her to repeat instructions for the briefings and that "if you don't understand something then ask!" but her english level is worse than mine (we're both non-native english speakers but I'm fully fluent while she's not) and in all honesty she always seems so irritated that I don't feel confident in asking her to repeat herself at all. I've seen her roll her eyes at me once and many times before when I tried to explain possible reasons for me letting those tiny mistakes slip through (such as my anxiety problems that I've told her about before but I guess she forgot) she'd look at me like I'm fucking insane and that I'm spewing bullshit. Basically from all her criticisms she seems like she wanted a perfect intern that never made any mistakes and that she'd never have to give extra feedback on, that she could simply barely bat an eye on whatever they deliver rather than actively review it and search for errors. Thank god this internship is going to end in 2 months.

But nonas please, please tell me. Am I the problem? Am I stupid or careless like my boss claims? I try to be as dedicated as I can with my tasks, is my effort not enough? I'm a pretty good student in my field and I have many accomplishments, most people around me always tell me that I have all that it takes to go far, but this internship is making my confidence in myself and my own skills go to shit.

I'm sorry for the long sperg but I needed to get this out.

No. 2044164

>>2044159
your boss sounds like a bitch who's expecting far too much from an intern. i'm not trying to undermine you but interns are supposed to make mistakes of all kinds, from small to big, because thats their chance to actually go through trial and error without the risk of getting fucked over too hard. if your mistakes aren't that significant or are easy quick fixes then your boss shouldn't be getting that annoyed over them and instead should be trying to help and encourage you.

No. 2044210

I've been trying to get another retail job so I can be saving up money while I work on getting the driving license I need to continue with my ""career"" (I live with my parents, not quite a NEET because I'm actively continuing with small-scale training/education courses). got rejected from a job today, feeling really shitty about it because I thought the interview went really well and the manager seemed to really like me. feeling really hopeless rn. in a small town too so job opportunities are fairly few and far between. hoping on hearing back from another retail application soon but I'm really struggling with feeling like I'm just going to be rejected all over again. had a big cry about it all. rejection seems to hit really hard, the feedback I've gotten every time has been "you were really good, but someone else was better". feels bad.

No. 2044492

>>2044159
she sounds like she's powertripping
>such as my anxiety problems that I've told her about before but I guess she forgot
i feel like telling a boss about anxiety issues is a mistake, a weakness they know to use against you

No. 2044587

Does anyone have any advice on getting a job when you have social anxiety/depression? I’m not technically a NEET since I’m still in college, although I’m just taking one online class this semester. I am however, a shut in and I still live with my parents. My parents are (rightfully) getting on my ass about doing fuckall and I feel guilty, but at the same time I dread working with the public. I haven’t had a job in two years, my first job was when I was 19 working at a chinese restaurant. I lasted four months and ended up quitting since I was being paid minimum wage, had finals coming up, was eating less, I wanted to kill myself, and there was a language barrier too. I know that the longer I wait, the harder it’s going to be to overcome this, and I’ll keep feeling like a loser. I need a job but I’m awkward around people, I know that I’m capable of working since I have two hands, two legs, and a brain, but said brain is paranoid. Has anyone else had similar experiences? If so, how did you overcome it and what do you work as?

No. 2044593

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going out of town for a convention tomorrow and i'm so miserable. i haven't felt this level of "do not want" in literal years. getting yelled at in retail was easier. but i don't want to do this. i don't want to social schmooze with judges and lawyers and senators for three days, i'll kill myself. i'm going to insult someone and end up in jail. apparently people from parliament will be there? please let them all look straight through me and let the days fly by

No. 2044594

>>2044593
it especially sucks because i am tech. we're a small team and i get it but aaaaiiieeee i went tech for a reason god damn it

No. 2044661

>>2044210

have you thought about applying for a temp agency? it's how i broke out of retail and started babby's first office job. they're desperate for workers to file random crap in the corner of a basement warehouse

No. 2044791

>>2044587
I've had a similar experience. Got a job through an agency after being a NEET/shut-in for 2-3 years and was able to hold it for 2,5 years. It was at a small company doing production work, some programming and graphic designing. I never had to deal with customers plus we had a small team, so I didn't have to talk with other people that much because everybody would be busy doing their own job. I recently quit and am now back to being a NEET/shut-in though.

I think retail/restaurant jobs are not ideal for shut-ins (if you deal with social anxiety) and I personally tend to look for jobs where you specifically do not have to deal with customers, like in a factory or just some place where they make stuff (if you want to do manual labour that is). I know it might sound depressing to work in a factory of some sorts, but there are so many interesting jobs available there and most of the time they are willing to teach you everything. Just open Google Maps sometime and look at what the companies in your area are making/if they have any vacancies and see if you can find anything that interests you. My advice is to not work at a company that is very small like I did though, because they will take advantage of you if you have a doormat personality like I do kek. Good luck nonna, I believe in you.

No. 2044811

>>2044587
A warehouse job is PERFECT if you can find one that does weekend shifts.

No. 2044877

Has anyone here switched from an office job to something completely different non-office job, like taking care of an elderly person?

No. 2044911

How do you stop the horrible corporate speak and fake performance from getting to you? My workplace is really heavy on "culture", super fake and performative and so much of my energy is spent on pretending I'm really excited and part of the "family", even as the company is going through some hard times. I feel like I'm going insane even though I try so hard to disconnect when not working, I go outside and engage in hobbies I really care about, but I still feel like I'm losing my soul to all of this and weekends never feel long enough to get rest. My boyfriend tells me "just don't think about work while you're not working" and I really do try, but he has way more flexibility at his job and is pretty much left to his own devices.
Is this just the nature of corporate life? Is there a way I can deal with this better?

No. 2044935

any suggestions for any autist friendly decently paying jobs? ones with and without a degree. struggling to figure out what would be a good career path that wouldnt drive me to suicide.

No. 2045530

>want to rent near my internship during the summer
>message the listing that sounds like best one, and it's only 10 mins from the job
>homeowner messages to let me know the shower in the house will be getting repaired/unusable during the time I requested, current renter showers at their job and she uses the one at her gym
I could transfer my gym membership but I think I'd get annoyed by the inconvenience

No. 2046163

This is a question probably more for anons who are in tech, particularly software engineering, but it's generally a question about how to figure out next steps in a career. I'm at a point where I want to move into some other role (currently senior fe) but I'm not totally sure what direction to go into. I feel torn between staying in fe and pursuing tech lead or manager roles or learning a different language and doing different type of development. Part of the difficulty in making a decision is that I've always worked at fairly small companies where the different type of engineers are broadly defined: front end, backend, devops. When I look at job posts to try and see what interests me, positions tend to be a bit more specific, so I have no real frame of reference on what it might be like. I know I might not have all the skills for a department change at the moment, but I love learning and have dabbled in C+ and Python, but haven't dived in yet since I'm not sure what's worth investing in for the best fit. I like FE work, but I'd generally like to expand and deepen my knowledge. Like I said, I have considered going into a tech lead or manager track, but I am grappling with my people pleasing tendencies. Not to mention, I default to softening my language so problems I flag have sometimes been read as not severe until things reach a critical point. I am working on that personal issue but it makes me not confident that I could be a good lead or manager. On the plus side, I am often told I am very easy to work with, knowledgable, and good at explaining concepts to less tech savvy coworkers and clients. I'm just not sure how to research or vet a good next step for me and wondering if any anons have advice or want to share any of their experiences in different dev roles? Barring that, I've considered finding a career coach to help parse this out, has anyone worked with one of those before? I worry it's a scam like most coaching, but I don't want to just be stuck in my current position forever.

No. 2046164

>>2044935
Considering the autistic women I know and the fields they seem to enjoy, have you thought about something in research or libraries? Maybe even data science?

No. 2046170

>>2046163
I switched from being a dev to being a security engineer (ISSE) recently. You just need a NIST certification to get going, I got sponsored by my company.
I like it more than dev work because it's less wrangling/interfacing with the customer, I just deal with devs and it guys and yell at them to fix their shit. I still apply my technical background, and I think your stated skills would be a good fit for it - it's very helpful to be able to explain security issues well, obviously.
I'd see about availability in your area before anything else though, I don't know how in demand it is everywhere (it's very valuable and high paid where I live.) Also, if you switch to something else after trying it, NIST experience is still valuable since it's always good to have someone who understands security shit writing your code or herding your devs or whatever.

No. 2046202

>>2046164
Nta but aren't those positions very scarce and competitive?

No. 2046270

Nonnas, I'm trying to drag myself out of NEET hell, but I have no job history on account of having been a commission artist for the past few years. I also don't have a degree and am 30 years old. Is there any hope for me job-wise or am I just fucked

No. 2046279

>>2044159
You're not the problem here, her attitude is. Yu sound like you're going above expectations tbf, a surprising amount of interns don't know how to do anything!

I experienced the same shit at my last job and I think it's because a) my boss was a middle-aged depressed woman who felt threatened by young people and b) they didn't like my vibe (i'm autistic kek) and wanted to poke me.

No. 2046302

>>2046270
Just put freelance artist as your job title on your resume, then add bullet points about general skills like communicating with clients, being self motivated, reaching deadlines. If you were commissioned for any big projects you could mention those too

No. 2046311

>>2046270
can you pick up enough basic design skills to spin yourself as a freelance designer and illustrator? It's not a guaranteed job (I don't know about your area but in mine, there's no junior design job openings and requirements are way higher than what is reasonable) but it's better than nothing. I got myself out of NEETdom that way and I'm not even a very good designer, but transferrable skills from doing art for game projects helped a lot. Companies care more about things like you being able to communicate clearly, deliver requests on time and use the required softwares rather than your skills (any corpo hiring a designer will have a shit eye for design anyway).

No. 2046329

>>2045530
Just find somewhere else to stay. It can't be the best place if it doesn't have a working shower. If there's no tub they shouldn't even have it up, report the listing.

No. 2046429

I just started a new job and am finding out that it was nothing like they advertised. For example job duties mentioned some really exciting areas that I was eager to learn about but will never be happening because apparently it’s handled by one guy on a different team. My coworker told me straight up that my job is just administrative work and nothing analytical. I got hired for my analytical skills.
I don’t wanna freak out too soon bc I have been here only a week but even shadowing the other analyst I am bored out of my mind. Do I bring this up to my boss and ask about where my analytical skills can come in? I don’t want to do administrative work and legit am on the verge of trying to look for other jobs just so I can get into something that isn’t so boring.

No. 2046465

>>2046429
Ask your boss, but start looking for another job. If they deceived you then who knows what else is going on with that workplace/team.

No. 2046645

>>2046329
Yeah I just started looking today. At first they sounded like someone I would get along with but I just saw they added $100 to the price of their listing which is kinda wtf if I can't even shower there

No. 2046703

>>2046202
ayrt,I agree my answer is not the best but trying to give nonny something, hopefully other autists have good reccs. But also you're right, research and library sciences from what I've heard from my friends is particularly difficult and competitive regardless of the economy, since it's a small field and people are usually lifers. Data Science I'm less sure about, probably matters how into math you are. Idk less skilled or specialized jobs that'd be good for a woman with autism though.

No. 2046793

Finally landed a phone screening for a receptionist role. I got fired from my last job of 5 yrs from a manager hating me and forcing a coworker to report me for "inappropriate language". I know they're going to ask questions and I'm so nervous on how to answer why I got fired.
Any tips for the phone screening? I've never gotten one before but it's supposed to be 15 minutes. What do they usually ask?

No. 2046827

>>2046793
Idk what country you’re in but do not say ANYTHING. It never happened, got it? You are going to sell yourself as hypercompetent and friendly if you want this job. Do not mention anything about disagreements at the old one unless it’s a STAR answer where you have a good “result” pre-planned. If you left a job then you either give a practical reason or say that you were seeking something with more internal growth.
They only call past workplaces after your offer is accepted to confirm the dates of your employment. HR cannot tell them anything else.

No. 2047375

>have job interview
>mic isn't working
>wasted 15min with the recruiter

It worked yesterday, I tested everything. I managed to fix it by switching ports but I don't want to do the interview again, I made such a retard out of myself.

No. 2047780

>coworker shows me how to do her job for her so she doesn’t have to do it
>whatever
>or it would be whatever if she weren’t condescending and shitty every step of the way
>throwing a little baby fit whenever i don’t read her mind to divine her hallowed way of ordering files or immediately understand how to do something she’s done for the past 40 years in a day
being talked down to by someone who isn’t my boss is getting annoying as hell kek. especially since i saved her ass earlier in the year. i know the best path to solving it is to ignore her/show no reaction but oooh i hope the cigs rot your stupid lungs faster

No. 2047784

>>2047780
also alongside her is my other coworker who hates me for reasons i don’t get. being sneered at or outright ignored is confusing me. having her be weird about me not having a license is also annoying…is it because i’m the youngest here? it can’t be because i’m totally incompetent and stalling their progress — i do the things i was hired to do well enough for my boss to brag to her boss about them. which is of course her hyping up her own hiring skills, but…

No. 2047793

I don't think I actually like my company. I thought I would and was excited going in, but I've seen red flags. Who decided it was a good idea to make a brand new team out of only new hires, whether junior or experienced? I'm a junior but now in a team with experienced ones who are pretty much all just as clueless because they were hired only a couple of months before us. This wastes time that could have been spent to learn from a senior. What a disorganized mess. There are multiple other cases of incompetency, not related to tech that I've witnessed. 90% of people here are also either control-freak narcissists or don't care. It's a shitty environment all around.

No. 2047994

I just applied to a position I think I would do well in at a company two of my friends work for but with a slightly inflated resume and a boasting motivation letter and now I feel guilty and dirty, but if I don’t sell myself a bit my application won’t even see outside the HR mailbox. Now if I get an interview I will stress about my exaggerations being discovered and if I don’t my self-esteem will take a hit. Why did I even apply in the first place this is a nightmare.

No. 2048110

>>2047994
If you do get the interview you should create a version of your memories that fits your exaggerations. Imagine them as vividly as you can until you can sort of fool yourself into thinking of them as the truth. It'll make those little lies look real to the interviewer and calm you down.

No. 2048379

A month, 3 rounds of interviews I thought went great, and I just got told that they decided to go with another candidate that had 30 years experience. I really wanted this job. it was everything I've been looking for since graduating university 5 years ago. I just feel so dejected. How could I possibly compete with someone with that much experience? The hiring team was so nice and told me I should be proud to have made it so far in the hiring process so young and that my portfolio is impressive but that just makes me feel worse? I feel like First Loser instead of Second Place.

No. 2048454

>>2048379
I'm so sorry nonny. Being so close to getting the job and then it not working out feels really terrible. I had the same thing happen to me about five months ago and it was pretty crushing. I don't understand how companies can string you along for three whole interviews and then poof nothing comes from it… At least you have the practice from the interviews so you can be as prepared as possible and move with confidence when the next chance comes along, plus you know your portfolio is solid. You're not a loser. Also imo that comment about you being proud to have made it so far despite being young kinda shows their hand that they don't want to hire young people in the first place, so you must have been pretty damn good. Don't lose hope ♥

No. 2048600

I recently landed a job that’s a 60% pay increase and it’s fully remote (which means I’m actually doing pretty well for myself
given my age). This is after being laid off by my shitty tech company that paid shitty fucking wages. To be honest, it’s probably the push I needed to look for something else but I’ve been so distraught about the whole situation since I found out my team was being laid off. My team get along great so we’ve at least had each other to lean on.

It’s a similar role to my current one, except I’ll be an internal PM rather than an external PM that works with customers. There were so many rounds of interviews, and the hiring manager offered me significantly more than I asked for (which totally shocked me). The interview was thorough, but I can’t shake this feeling that they’ve made some mistake in hiring me and I’m terrified of screwing up.

Is there anything I can do to make sure I succeed? I’m trying to curb bad habits related to food, substance abuse (lol) and basically doing anything I can to make myself feel less terrified of starting this role but am still feeling so anxious.

No. 2048788

>>2047780
i’m glad this happened now because i feel no guilt or hesitation about draining this place of all the experience i can and job hopping.

No. 2048944

I was in an interview yesterday with a media company. They asked me "what would it take for you to quit the job?" It was kinda on the spot but I shared that there was a lot of factors (like me hurting physically from lack of sleep + stress) that made me leave my last job but the main one was to attend my bootcamp. I hope I answered the question ok.

No. 2049002

>>2048600
Based, nice work.
>Is there anything I can do to make sure I succeed?
Nobody here can tell you that, but imposter syndrome can lead to self-sabotage, so try and learn how to manage it before you start your job and try to avoid interpreting the mistakes you'll make early on as signs that you're shit. Ask your manager for feedback fairly frequently during your first few months and learn from that, the advice your colleagues give you, and your mistakes.

No. 2049003

>>2048944
Oh no…that's not the type of question you're supposed to answer honestly!

No. 2049059

>>2044593
How did it go? I had the same feeling of dread when I had to go to a convention, and while I did enjoy it less than my coworkers did, I still ended up having fun overall.

>>2044911
I have only ever been able to cope by finding similarly jaded coworkers that I can talk shit with. It's not possible at all jobs, though. Having coworkers that you can bitch to is what I miss most about being a wagie.

>>2048600
Congrats.

The bar for project managers is honestly on the floor. If you're not retarded and you actually try, you'll probably do fine.
>Be organized
>Keep the number of meetings down, and keep them short and quick. Actively moderate meetings to make sure you're not wasting people's time.
>Attempt to actually understand the projects you're working on. Employees can tell when you dont understand what they're telling you or when you don't understand what you're talking about, and they will resent you for being a useless middleman. If you don't understand the project and the important details about it, you will fuck up when discussing it to devs and leadership, which will cause a ton of problems for everyone involved.
>Contribute and give structure and focus to projects. You're not just a messenger and a scribe; you should be adding value.

If you do most of these things halfway decently, you will be significantly better than the average PM.

No. 2049081

>>2048944
That's such a stupid question to ask during an interview. I wouldn't be surprised if it has a toxic work culture.

No. 2049123

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>>2049003
I thought about that too. They said that it’s understandable if I left because I wasn’t happy but I did lie about my old management being nice people. I wouldn’t be offended if I didn’t get the job. Could you imagine how much info I would have on their clients that I couldn’t share online? It would drive me insane.
>>2049081
lol yeah she even said their last girl left because of “personal reasons”.

No. 2049127

ffs i clicked on a bad link. i swear i'm not retarded, the email came from a hotel manager like 10 minutes after i had asked someone to send me a receipt from their hotel. now i'm going to get reamed out by IT and probably signed up for a million scam email training sessions.

No. 2049166

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it's either find a job across the country or finally go to college full time out there, but I'm in my mid thirties and I don't think I can make it through college surrounded by people of gender and other current era specimens

but fucking hell from the empty wasteland that is my inbox you could reasonably assume that a fifteen-year civil service career means nothing without a certificate saying I spent four years writing papers about nothing materially real or meaningful and trying not to think about the amount of debt I'd end up with for that privilege

No. 2049171

hate my job so unbelievably bad, i keep constantly getting fucked over time and time again and this place made my mental health so bad that now i have to do intensive outpatient therapy 3 times a week, which a higher up won't even do an accommodation for. the only good place about this job is being paid weekly and the hours aren't the worst. that's it. i hate it here so bad i'm miserable and cynical at the workplace and i feel like such a downer. i'm also not even nice to customers anymore, i just don't have the energy for it but god they won't fire me.

No. 2049499

I hope to one day be able to afford the products my company makes, which I help develop. It feels demoralizing that I can't. It felt better working for companies that made cheap mass market crap despite knowing how wasteful that stuff is.

No. 2050494

I mentioned some time ago that I'm quitting my programming job and am gonna try to change careers into game dev. An anon brought up the very valid point that it's even more demanding when it comes to having personal projects and portfolios etc., but my hope is that, since it's something I like, I'll be able to actually work on it. This is my last month in my job and I don't have anything else lined up. I wanna spend some time studying, working by myself, taking some courses, etc. But I'm so scared. I'm afraid I'm gonna fail spectacularly due to not having something external to drive me. There are some 2 year courses I can take that I can take online but those would still depend on me keeping up motivation by myself. I'm so scared nonas… I just want to not work a soul sucking job creating wealth for shareholders… Yeah I know I'll also be doing that in a gamedev job, it's not all roses and sunshine, but at least I'll get to be creative and enjoy myself doing it, at least a little bit more than what I do now.
Please please please I want this to work… I want desperately to not work on something that makes me legit suicidal bc I'm probably bpd (my psychiatrist has been floating this diagnosis and honestly I think she's right) and feeling useless or rejected makes me wanna kms immediately and that's how I've felt in every single job I've ever had. There's gotta be a way to make money that doesn't make me wanna die because I feel like a complete failure. Please god I just want to be happy… just a little…

No. 2050678

Anons be real with me if I wanted to pursue a career in data analytics and don't care much for math but just want to make money, is it worth it? Or is it a dead end? I've been doing research and so many data analysts only really broke into the industry because they had merchandising or sales experience. Is it worth it? I want good money.

No. 2051342

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Are there any artists here who've managed to transition careers? I graduated with a Fine Arts degree about 2 or 3 years ago (who could remember with COVID) and am still doing freelance art commissions. It's ok, but definitely not a sustainable long term career, and family's up my ass about "well you're 26 now so…?" The latest push has been to become a teacher (either a grade school art teacher or substitute) but that can't be all that's left these days right?

No. 2051344

>>2048600
Recently I saw a TIM I hate has become a PM. He is a narcissist that has always felt a need to be in control wherever he is, so I'm not even surprised. He was also kicked out of the LGBT club on campus he was president of, for accusations of being a creep. I feel sorry for the people that must work under him now. Just please don't be that kind of PM.

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>>2044911
I don't know because it really gets to me as well. I am much rougher around the edges - Like to cuss, don't care for self grooming very much (Walk around in old clothes, bags, etc), talk very casually…I just wish we could have a white collar job closer to the culture of a blue collar one. Construction workers seem much more laid-back with eachother. No frills, can swear, and shoot the shit with eachother (Can develop an actual brotherhood with eachother that isn't forced networking crap). Don't have to worry about dumb superficial shit like how much text you have on a Powerpoint and how well polished your shoes are. Also I imagine if someone fucks with you in construction you can go ahead and tell them straight up to fuck off much more easily. Not get written up to HR immeadietly, which causes people in white collar to fuck with you much more insidiously, creating an environment where you're forced to put up with it for much longer.

No. 2051388

>>2051342
I transitioned out of being a commission artist by getting a part time job to gain different work experience/skills. From there it was a matter of customer service, misc business admin, and leadership experience that let me bounce around until my resume was good enough to start a career in sales. I'd say go for a part time job first and gain experience while earning money through your art to supplement it. It can take a while to start earning a living wage in a new career unless you're lucky/really charismatic. But really, your options aren't as limited as they seem unless you feel like you have to strictly be in an art-related job, where you are involved in illustration directly. There are plenty of design/retail/creative jobs out there where it helps to be an artist, but you aren't actively producing art.

No. 2051498

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I've somehow mentally convinced myself I will not get the job despite answering all the technical questions correctly, due to the fact that I did not make myself appear more eloquent.
Doesn't help that I know there's 11 other candidates that got to the interview stage and probably appeared more friendly than I did. I hate the waiting period so much it's unreal because I start overthinking this shit and picking apart everything I could have done better.

No. 2051563

>>2051342
you could work at a museum if you like art.

No. 2051775

>>2044911
I made it clear as soon as I started my current job a few years ago that I won't work overtime, and that I will work hard during the hours stated in my work contract because it's explicitly stated that working more hours won't give me a bigger salary, no more no less. I was kind of forcing myself to participate in activities that my former coworkers thought would be fun before they all left very quickly, dumb shit like celebrating everyone's birthdays on our own money or stretching for like 10 minutes before our weekly team's meetings but after everyone got replaced because the turnover rate is really high these things stopped happening as often and even then I'm still fed up. Last week my coworkers wanted to surprise me by celebrating my birthday too late with a cake they bought during lunch break, filmed me while singing happy birthday to you in the middle of the office and made me eat a piece while I was trying not to pass out, throw up and shit in my pants at the same time from my period cramps. They all looked a little upset I wasn't crying tears of joy when it's the third time they've been doing that shit and I was too physically sick to give a fuck. I can't stand these bitches anymore. My boss got lowkey upset we didn't want to have our meetings (as in, work) during our unpaid lunch breaks but she still stopped doing that when we all politely made her understand we don't give a fuck about these meetings. One good thing is that the guy who wanted to plan afterworks once a week left the company more than a year ago so he can't harass me into drinking alcohol and partying instead of raising his very young kid.

It's not advice because it's a little unrealistic, it's not something you can directly influence but I think the most effective way to stop caring about all of this would be if most of your coworkers also stopped caring, stopped pretending you're all bffs and actually just focused on work and left as soon as the work is done. In my case all the annoying things that contributed to all of us being forced to pretend we're a giant, happy family stopped being organized because the people who cared about that left little by little and got replaced by people who care a lot less about that shit. I can't say it's a good thing though, because we have a lot more issues as a result of everyone leaving the company after just 6 months or one year there.

No. 2051908

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>>2051775

>Last week my coworkers wanted to surprise me by celebrating my birthday too late with a cake they bought during lunch break


I did not tell anyone at work it was my birthday day of, but only on the next day instead, because I knew they would do something like that. They still did exactly that. They suddenly walked in with a cake and made me blow candles while everyone started singing Happy Birthday and looking at me like picrel. Seemed like a nice gesture at first but then I thought about how creepy and humiliating that felt. I think there was some unwritten rule for me to share the cake with everybody else too, but I didn't since no one said yes when I asked, so the first thing I got asked the next morning "How was the cake?".

No. 2051912

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a job application im filling out right now….

No. 2052641

>>2051908
That picture is basically what they all looked like while trying to make me say a speech. I just said thank you, I appreciate it and they were waiting for more with that face.

No. 2052644

>>2051912
someone got paid 80k per year to be an inclusivity consultant for a large firm and add those small touches

No. 2052649


No. 2052672

>>2051912
If they're smart they use that field to filter out the nuisances

No. 2052728

>>2051912
You know that the company's had at least ten complaints from xe/xyms and fae/stars about how genocidal these pronoun options are.

No. 2052734

>>2051342
It was hard and I had to freelance and make my own projects for awhile but I transitioned from fine arts into design and then into web development.

No. 2053822

I just need to vent.
I took a job where I was sold a standard position with a good baseline entry salary, but over the last year I've been pushed into a position akin to a fucking call center employee where I have a set goal of calls to make a day to sell things unrelated to my current position and I feel like every few weeks I put my foot down about this and they accept that it's out of my contracted duties and then slowly I get pushed back into calls. I'm just bored of this but none of applications are being accepted by other companies. I could just numb myself and do this because it's not like it's hard but I wake up fucking dreading this because I'm doing nothing with my life but working for a morally corrupt company who only cares about money. I just want to leave, I'd take working in food industry again over this, I just fucking hate this so much.

No. 2053859

I'm interviewing for 2 different companies right now and praying that one of them hires me because the money is drying up but also because they're remote positions and I really don't want to travel at 35C+ for interviews or work. I've been unemployed for almost half a year now, as much as I love the free time, money is sadly more important atm.

I also have to report to the unemployment birou every month, and they also send me ads that I'm supposed so apply for. Except all the shit they send me is stuff I haven't done in YEARS. The last bookkeeping job I had was in 2020, I've been doing nothing but tech related stuff since then, including additional education but for some reason those retards keep ignoring it. It creates a frustrating loop because I have to apply, but I know I'll be rejected because the companies sometimes actually read the cv.

No. 2053999

I dropped the ball on 2 interview questions(one technical and one where I had to talk about a situation I've been in before), how cooked am I?

No. 2055775

There's that coworker I can't stand anymore, she won't stop yelling on the phone and since her contract is almost over she's starting shit with everyone, managers, clients and the other team that's working with us. I'm looking forward to August so I don't have to deal with her anymore. She likes me so she's annoying tf out of me during lunch breaks to tell me all about her personal life without me ever asking and I'm sick of it. She's still yelling as I'm typing this it's been 10min.

No. 2056110

>>2055775
Everyone knows wherd I'm going next week on holidays and she asked me to post pictures of my trip and videos for the whole team on whatsapp as if I would ever give them my personal phone number, help me anons. I hate these people so much, why do they think we're all friends! And they're almost all muslim so they would annoy me with whatever I do during my free time because they think I'm one of them. I need to come up with a good excuse.

No. 2056138

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So sick of spending hours writing cover letters only to get a generic email rejection in response and a refusal to give me feedback. Is the job market (in Europe) just really shit right now? My last two jobs took only a couple weeks to get, I've been looking for three months now. Both in a new sector and in a sector I've been working in for a couple of years.

No. 2056156

>>2056138
>Is the job market (in Europe) just really shit right now?
Generally yes, but depends on which industry you are in. Don't give up though nonna, you'll find something. Apply to at least 10 places per day and keep an Excel sheet with all the info, name of the company, description of the position, link to the website, physical address, etc. Be persistent.

No. 2056993

I'm finally a developer now but I haven't actually been doing much of anything at work and don't have the motivation to self-learn on the side either. I'm worried if this keeps up that I'll be let go. Co-workers are already playing around in codebase but I, as dumb and useless as I am, can still only be told very specifically what to do so that I can do something. I don't have the intellectual curiosity others tend to possess in this field. I'm bad at learning new things and struggle with it alot in general, though.

No. 2057363

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Another day another rejection. There are almost no jobs around here and all the remote stuff requires good upload, which I can't have due to living at the edge of town. I was almost hored on the spot today, but again, the upload sucks.
Money is slowly running low which has me a bit panicking and I don't want to dig into my savings. Sending 6 more applications today.

>>2056156
nta, but I recommend Notion, imo it's better and prettier than excel

>>2056993
You sure you're not burned out?
I know I was after that stupid final in the coding bootcamp I did. Maybe doing something like cs50 or daily challenges could get you your spark back?

I haven't touched vs code since December and I still need to make a portfolio kek

No. 2057375

>>2057363

Well, I just graduated this past December and started the job this May so I may have some post-college burnout. CS in college was great in taking me from someone initially very interested in self-learning to eventually someone that freaks out at the mere thought of coding by the time I graduated. The amount of anxiety and stress it took to battle through my degree was insane. I never did leetcode either, something that bit back hard when I was job searching since now every recruiter and their grandma either makes you do those or some other kind of online assessment so I probably should anyway. I'm scared it'll follow me everywhere in future job searches.

No. 2057385

I need to get an internship but it's making me freak out. I don't have any experience in that field or job experience in general. They don't want a cover letter but I'll try to bullshit something to at least explain what date I could start. I'm reading example interview questions online and I feel like I couldn't respond to anything. Despite my good grades it's like everything I studied left my brain. Why am I so fucking stupid, I don't even want to send it out. But if I don't do it nothing will get done again and I'll continue wasting away

No. 2057411

>>2057375
My brothers gf was the same after graduating, it'll wear off after a while. Those stupid tests and exercises seem to be almost mandatory for every coding role, even if the job is piss easy and you'll never use whatever they ask in the test. Leetcode and code wars are a good idea, yeah. Just try to sit for like 5 minutes on the site. Starting sucks ass but eventually it'll turn into a habit. At least it did for me with duolingo kek

>>2057385
Interviews are all about bullshitting and it's more about the vibes than actual knowledge. By that I mean if you get along with the interviewer you can make a few mistakes. They also take practice.
Maybe the google interview warmup site could help with practice? You get questions, answer them and get feedback.

Reminds me how I was asked in an interview about team management, told them how the most people I managed was about 50, made some shit up how it worked. Meanwhile the truth was that I was a commander in Guild wars 2 and did meta maps. You don't need to do shit, just pop up a tag and people follow you

No. 2057500

>>2057411
You're giving me the courage to think more about how I can sell the little bit of experience I do have but I'm scared about it being vibe-based kek, I've been told I look anxious even when I relax and I'm scared I'll break out in tears if they ask me what I'm good at or what I do in my free time or if I remember literally anything I studied.

No. 2057623

>>2057500
You can do it, you just have to delude yourself a bit that you're the best thing that ever happened to the company and if they ask about something you've never done, well, you're never done it but you're more than capable to learn it super fast and be good at it. They love retarded amount of confidence, lots of smiling and just being a bit bubbly. Even the cunty ones are just people and trust me, there's always someone worse than you at these interviews.
Just keep practicing

No. 2058437

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>"we aim to give you a response somewhere near the start of next week"
>it's friday and still no news
I suppose at least I haven't been rejected yet?

No. 2058548

The place I want to apply to apparently only wants the CV and my grades/proof of any certificates but doesn't mention a cover letter. The entire site is full of phrases like "Just apply with your documents, we will get to know you in a personal conversation and show you why we are the right fit for you!" and I don't know what to do. Should I add a letter anyway or would it look like I'm stupid and didn't check out their site beyond the specific job description? Should I email them and ask?

No. 2058572

>>2058548
Just send the documents and write something basic in the email like hope my cv will interest you enough to give me the opportunity to introduce myself in person" or something like that.
I had the chance to work at hiring at one of the companies I was at. You wouldn't believe the dumb shit people send in (sometimes there's literally nothing attached lol), the ugly af cv's and stupid email addresses (seen xxxedgy420bl00dxx type of stuff frequently). Whatever you do, it'll be fine

No. 2058585

>>2058572
Thanks for the response, I'll do that then. I've heard before that recruiters see all kinds of weird things and I just want to avoid becoming another story like that kek

No. 2058641

I’m doing it today nonnas, I am going to quit my crappy job I have had for 4 years. I don’t have anything lined up yet, but I know I have outgrown this job.

No. 2058707

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Nonnas, it can get better. For years, I was doing soul sucking office work as a college graduate. I was able to pretty easily afford things and I got to avoid talking to people. However, the benefits were not worth the mental toll and I was extremely depressed for several years partly because of my meaningless work. Edge aheadI tried to kms twice while on the clock and had to take leave because of it, when I came back it was like nothing happened. I was bullied by coworkers and mgmt ignored me. There were also periods where they gave me no work but I was expected to sit at my desk like a good slave for 8 hours and look busy. I had no hope for my future and hoped to either be fired or die so I didn't have to continue. People would tell me 'it's just a job' or 'you're just there for the paycheck' and tell me not to let it get to me. But when you're working for most of your waking hours, it is nearly impossible not to let it affect you.

I decided to quit and go to trade school where I had to learn new things and gain new experience. Luckily I was able to survive on savings and short jobs here and there until I got my professional license. Now I don't dread waking up in the mornings. I don't feel miserable on the weekend knowing I have to go to work soon. This peace is worth it. I am able to do work that I find meaningful, work with my hands, and improve my own life. And eventually I can open my own business and work for myself. I'm so glad I didn't listen to the skeptical people in my life who told me I was just being sensitive. I know this doesn't apply to everyone though, some people legitimately can work corporate jobs and not want to die at the end of the day.

No. 2058727

i honestly love my job despite it being a shitshow atm, it's the perfect field for me and even though the hours are long it's an exciting and energizing job i love learning at. but i just can't believe i got passed up initially for a girl with court dates in multiple different counties, telling my now coworker she "has a problem being on her phone while driving" when we drive government vehicles, saying she was a social media influencer once she got the job and was going to make tiktoks (of what bitch? the dead people in the morgue? what are ethics), and likely lied about past experience. also bragged about how she had to hide her badge from her family as they were involved in criminal activity. just wtf, i could have started two weeks earlier because you guys couldn't do a proper background check when you could've compared and seen i've never even been pulled over. oh well, at least i'm there now and management seems to like me.

No. 2058924

I got a new job in my field that starts in two weeks. Should I keep going into my former job or quit now and have a week off? I could really use the extra money which is why I'm hesitating but the work is mind numbing and can't tolerate it for a second longer.

No. 2058928

>>2058707
thank you nonny, gives me a lot to think about.

No. 2059082

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>>2058437
NVM I got the response I was hoping for.

No. 2060631

My boss decided that he doesn't like my coworker and wants to fire him. The problem is the only way to legally do that in my country is to completely remove his job position, and he can't hire anyone to do his job for at least 3 months. So he wants me to take on his job responsibilities or be fired as well. I obviously said shove it, fire me as well. So the HR lady and my supervisor basically begged me to reconsider and said that even if I am taking on his responsibilities on paper, I don't have to do much. They pressured me to make the decision right then and there, so I agreed to their terms. But the more I think about it, the more I don't like it. It just morally doesn't sit right with me. I don't really want to take on his job. I don't like it at all. It just gives me a bad feeling. Also, I feel like by accepting this offer, I am losing all my bargaining chips. If I get fired now, I will get severance pay and I will have grounds to sue. If I accept it, then I will be someone who begged to stay at this godforsaken place. But I am not in a good place financially to quit right now. I was in the process of applying for a mortgage loan. I hate it. What should I do, nonnies? Should I stay or should I go?

No. 2060655

>>2060631
They're 100% going to fuck you over if you sign anything like that. Verbal agreements are worth jack shit. It's a tough situation and I hope someone who knows more than me can give better advice. Maybe you can brainstorm terms to negotiate, like getting paid X overtime for doing Y hours (a minimal amount of his duties) for a period Z months? Maybe you and a coworker could split the duties?

No. 2060687

>>2058924
Quit. Reset yourself. Congrats on new job

No. 2062133

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I got a new job after a rubbish period of job searching (limited options in a shitty small town). not a brilliant job, more shitty retail work, but I know it isn't permanent and I'll be getting back to my real passion + career soon when I find my feet again. very small flicker of positivity.

No. 2062149

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Am I overreacting? I'm currently working a lucrative contract for a tech company. My boss for the contract (who is normally chill and leaves me to be autonomous) flipped out and berated me in a public slack channel for sending an email 'without permission'. For context, the email I sent had correct information but missed another piece of company specific information that I, being an external contractor, did not know about. I would have appreciated my boss simply saying 'can you also include this extra information in a follow up, that's the way we do it here' rather than raging and implying I'm incompetent in front of others.
Not sure whether to mention this because it has really pissed me off, or just roll with it and assume my boss is having a bad day.

No. 2062165

>>2062149
Publicly laying into you is HR worthy complaints anon don't let it go cause that "off day" is gonna become a habit for your boss

No. 2062169

always thought people who complained about boring nothing jobs to be retarded but my job is currently boring and slow and i’m hating it. but when i’m made hybrid/remote (if i guess…) then i’ll love it

No. 2062224

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I’m currently planning for my future and for a German lawyer moving to the US I only see two options:

Plan A: take some classes at an American law school to take the US bar exam and keep working as a lawyer
pros: good salary, can open my own office if nobody wants to hire me
cons: expensive and time consuming, job is limited to the state one barred in, employers and clients would probably prefer fully US educated lawyers (hard to compete with them)

Plan B: do some training to become a paralegal
pros: cheap and quick, can move from state to state, don’t have to worry about losing cases
cons: shitty salary compared to plan A

Which path would you choose, nonnas? Or can you think of any alternative plans for foreign lawyers in the US?

No. 2062229

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Been flagging for 6 years and I'm only 23 and make $23/cad an hour. I'm so sick and tired of it. What do bartenders and servers make? This job makes me want to die but its full time with guranteed hours/wage. Is it worth switching?

No. 2062234

>>2062224
I'm no where near a lawyer but I say keep studying and expand with option A. You already did the work might as well make good money.

No. 2062241

I replied to a "we've tried to contact you" message and they called me back right away. Now I have the interview tomorrow and I hope I won't flumb it first, then maybe get the job I think?

No. 2062249

>>2062229
I haven’t been a bartender in over 5 years so grain of salt but it was a hell of a lot less than 23/hr when I did it. Do not switch to bartending oh my god. People talk about the tips but it’s all irregular hours and late nights and shit customers, tips ebb and flow. I imagine you get weekends off or no? Bartenders never do.

No. 2062250

>>2062224
Why in the hell are you moving to the US?

No. 2062303

>>2062250
Are you the america-hating britanon?

No. 2062307

>>2062250
I need to leave Germany to get away from my toxic abusive family. I don’t want to move to a different European country because it would still make it too easy for my family to visit me on a regular basis, trust me. And I honestly don’t care for other European countries lol I only like Germany. I picked the US because I’ve enjoyed all my stays there and find it very easy to connect and socialize with Americans. And the wildlife, national parks, hiking trails and landscapes give me a reason to live kek. Also, driving in Europe gives me anxiety because the roads are too narrow and curvy. American roads are wider and straighter.

No. 2062319

>>2062241
Of course it's most probably a scam, goddamnit.

No. 2062329

i’d love to get an office job like as a receptionist or secretary, but i am a university student and don’t have any relevant experience (i’ve had two jobs before but both very random summer jobs).

my university degree is related to business but i’m not sure that helps at all. are there any certificates or courses i could do to add to my resume? what else could help?

No. 2062361

>>2062329
You should be able to get a job as a receptionist without any experience, that's a common student job.

No. 2062369

>>2062307
You're a qualified laywer perfectly capable of supporting herself, and an extremely in-demand one here too (a German lawyer). What is keeping you from moving to another city and cutting off your family for good if you're not financially dependent on them? Moving to the US for those reasons only is a bad idea nona. Have you lived in a third world country before? Because that's what the US is, a country third-world living conditions but with money. Being a lawyer in the USA is 100 times worse than being a lawyer in Germany. You must realize it if you've taken comparative law classes during your studies. If you really need to move to another continent to escape your family for whatever reason and don't mind living as an expat, consider Asia.

No. 2062370

>>2062361
NTA but I've been applying for receptionist jobs (among other low level jobs) for months and they all just ghost, job market is horrible.

No. 2062378

>>2062369
>Being a lawyer in the USA is 100 times worse than being a lawyer in Germany. You must realize it if you've taken comparative law classes during your studies.
How so?

No. 2062383

>>2062307
So… don't tell them where you move to and lock your door?

No. 2062386

>>2062224
Lawyer to paralegal is a SERIOUS downgrade both wrt your salary and how much people will respect you. You'll also never get sponsorship that way unless you marry a citizen. Bad idea.
>>2062307
>I’ve enjoyed all my stays there
I'm not saying that you'll ultimately hate living there, but living somewhere is much different than travelling.
Can you afford to do a trial run via a shorter period of education like a master's or renting a place in an area of interest for a few months? I'm sure you also know that getting a green card/PR in the US is difficult even if you're sponsored by a company/firm. And whatever extra training you do will mean nothing without a sponsorship.
>Also, driving in Europe gives me anxiety because the roads are too narrow and curvy. American roads are wider and straighter.
Traffic fatalities in the US are absurdly high and many people drive like maniacs post-COVID.

This isn't to shit on your dreams, but they won't be the easiest to realise and there's a decent chance that you won't enjoy living in the country.

No. 2062388

>>2062378
The legal system of the USA is one of the worst ones on this planet because of one simple thing: the jury system. This turns the entire judiciairy into a ginormous circus where it's common to verbally and psychologically abuse witnesses, experts as well as opposing counsel all in an effort to convince a panel of randoms that your case is correct based on emotions alone. See the Johnny Depp trial for an example. Having a jury transforms the judiciary into an awful, nightmarish money-making machine and rightfully doesn't exist in any other developed nation. Even in the UK juries aren't common and relegated to one very specific instance. The US also has unethical shit like punitive damages and contingency fees which are illegal in Germany as you should know how awful they are.

No. 2062389

>>2062307
This is totally not the point of your post but narrow and non-straight roads have been proven to be more safe because they slow down traffic speeds and force attention back on the road.

No. 2062400

What should I expect from a short initial interview with an HR person? I've been told the purpose of it is just to get to know my experience and for me to learn about the job (and there'll be another, more practical interview if I pass this one). I've done research on the company, prepared a few questions and prepared answers for questions like "tell me about yourself", "why are you interested in the company" and other basic ones. Are they mostly going to check my resume info is correct, like an external recruiter would? My current job's interview process was the opposite of this (task presentation + competency based questions first, checking on details in a followup interview) so I'm finding this pretty daunting.

No. 2062403

>>2062388
the system is fucked up but I think it’s up to nonnie if she wants to pursue life in da USA. Let’s face it wages are higher here than most countries.

No. 2062428

>>2062403
>>2062389
>>2062388
>>2062386
>>2062383
>>2062369
Repost bc typos but Im German lawyer OP and idc what you guys have to say about the US you probably mean well but I‘ve fully made my mind up about moving there. Me answering a question wasn’t an invitation for everyone to sperg about how much you hate America kek. And if I regret it I can simply return to Germany without any issues and keep earning a shit ton of money as a lawyer here. I have nothing to lose. Anyway thanks to the nonnies who talked me out of becoming a paralegal I love you and I will pretend that every client I am defending in an American court is one of you lovely people

No. 2062432

>>2062403
If it's a pure money calculation, then yeah, sure. Wages might be higher but the quality of life is significantly lower when compared to a country like Germany. Infrastructure, roads, healthcare, government funding, food, public schools, safety, etc. Nonna can live a comfortable life as a lawyer in the German countryside where with her salary she can buy land and a house and drive on big, deserted countryside roads. Compare that to being an immigrant in the US, it's just begging to suffer. She won't be treated any better just because she's German there either. Not to mention if she wants a greencard she has to give up her German passport. Fat chance of making it back to the EU under these conditions.

No. 2062441

>>2062428
Based. Don't listen to these Amerilards. I bet they studied something useless in school like basket weaving and are now bitter that they can barely find a job and living paycheck to paycheck, so it must mean Murrica is a third world kek. Follow your dreams nonny!!

No. 2062443

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>>2062441
All nonnies should come to Brazil

No. 2062446

>>2062432
>if she wants a greencard she has to give up her German passport. Fat chance of making it back to the EU under these conditions
Nope, you dont need to give up your German citizenship for a greencard. It’s perfectly possible to have both. The German passport is one of the worlds strongest. That thing let’s you get away with pretty much anything kek. I can return to Germany at any time, don’t worry nonna.
>Infrastructure, roads, healthcare, government funding, food, public schools, safety, etc.
How will that concern me as a lawyer exactly? We make good money and I have a lot of savings. I’m not going to live in a ghetto
>Nonna can live a comfortable life as a lawyer in the German countryside
I literally live in the German countryside and contrary to your assumptions it‘s quite literally where the roads are the slimmest and curviest topkek. And stop blowing the road thing out of proportion nonnies, its obviously not my main motivation

No. 2062458

>>2062446
>I’m not going to live in a ghetto
Oh, nonnie.

No. 2062460

>>2062446
I honestly don't understand why you think you need to move to another continent to get away from your family (you conveniently avoided those questions too) but if you feel like moving to the US is something you need to do, just do it. If nothing else it'll at least be personal development and you can always move back if it wasn't all you hoped it to be.

No. 2062477

>>2062460
I didnt avoid these questions nonna I just ignored them bc I already answered them in my first post. European countries are not far away enough. My family constantly travels throughout Europe every other week. They will keep visiting me if I stay in europe. I need to move faaar away from them. Some short little flights throughout Europe is nothing to them. And I don’t want to completely lose contact and further harm our relationship either so changing my identity or hiding my whereabouts or whatever is not an option. I still love them and don’t want to lose them despite their domestic violence and emotional terrorism towards me. I just need to get away from them physically. The only foreign language I’m fluent in is english and I simply prefer the USA over other non European english speaking countries like New Zealand, Australia, Canada

No. 2062499

I find it very odd how Im being forced to justify my decision about moving to the US. Why do I need to justify it? Just let me pursue my American dream nonnies. I will invite you all to a traditional thanksgiving dinner at my luxurious American mansion once I have succeeded

No. 2062513

>>2062499
Because it's a stupid decision. If you don't want people to criticize your career choices then don't broadcast them on the career thread. You sound underage.

No. 2062516

>>2062432
>>2062458
Oh, please. The nicest places in America are wonderful to live in; they're just absurdly expensive. They're a different type of nice compared to European cities, and they feel much less organic, but it is not at all hard to believe that some Europeans would find that appealing.
Acting like living in America on a lawyer's salary is like living in a ghetto is absolutely ridiculous and betrays that you have no idea what America is like or that you have no idea what actual third world countries are like. Yes, we have many pockets of serious poverty and our country is not great to live in if you are poor, but the vast majority of cities have several nice neighborhoods that do not have significant crime problems, are walkable, and have good public amenities well-cared for by urban nimbys; they're just far too expensive for people outside the top 20% of income. You need to visit a suburban-ish satellite city of a growing American city. They are often shiny and wealthy to the point of absurdity, but you can pretty easily afford to live in these places on a professional's salary.

>She won't be treated any better just because she's German there either

Americans absolutely love European immigrants, especially if they're actually fluent in english. Thinking otherwise is very out of touch.

>Not to mention if she wants a greencard she has to give up her German passport.

I know she already replied, but this is extremely false. Even if youre confusing a green card with citizenship, both the US and Germany allow dual citizenship.

No. 2062529

>>2062513
The question was „paralegal vs lawyer“ not „America vs Europe“

No. 2062545

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Anyway taking this as a chance to rant: I specialize in bank law and I hate having to deal with divorce cases form time to time just bc the couple has created some huge loan issues with the bank in their marriage. Everyone involved in divorce cases is obnoxious and petty and most importantly: a liar

No. 2062550

>>2062529
More like
>paralegal immigrant in The US
>native lawyer in Germany
The immigrant part cannot be underestimated.
And contrary to expectation you need a degree to be a paralegal, too. A US law degree. Because the USA is a common law country.

No. 2062563

>>2062550
I agree the paralegal route is definitely retarded what was I even thinking. But nonnas took the /ot part on here too literally and kept crying about how much they hate the US which has nothing to do with this thread or my question. Its just annoying at this point

No. 2062570

>>2062400
>Are they mostly going to check my resume info is correct, like an external recruiter would?
Basically, along with some other surface-level questions to see if you're a good fit like salary expectations. If you're early career then those won't come into play as much though.

No. 2062574

>>2062516
>vast majority of cities have neighborhoods that are walkable

That "neighborhood" is usually only a very small portion of the city i.e. downtown. And even then there's rarely one with an apartment where:

1) You won't still deal with shitty drivers and homeless
2) There is a building other than a grocery store and some small shops that are properly walkable i.e. post office, bank, hospital.

So this is inaccurate. Do not underestimate American car-brain.

No. 2062622

>>2062563
i'm american and you should go for it. yes america has its downsides but it's not this massive ghetto entirely. there's nice areas and there's shitholes and i live in the midwest, which is generally referred to as a shithole but it's absolutely not if you're a lawyer living in a nice city or town. you definitely need a car to live here though. it might be a struggle getting to the point you want to be at but it will be worth it. especially if you find a good area with a sizeable population that only speaks german, that will be an asset of yours because employers here love bilingual and multilingual employees. the entire country isn't detroit.

No. 2062806

Best easy to get jobs for good character references? I have a dream job confirmed and it's 6 months away. Only issue is that I've been a NEET since I graduated a year ago.

No. 2064132

>>2041288

I got a job guys I know nobody asked but I ain't got homies to tell. Starting as an apprentice baker. Fuckin union job.

No. 2066119

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I can't tell if I'm fucking up on my resume or my portfolio is way too out of date or what, but I'd love a bit of advice. Artist, working in video game industry, got laid off a while back, still applying to jobs left, right, and center. A lot of the work I did for the place I worked at is still under NDA (for at least 6 more months), so in the meantime I'm working on art to put in my portfolio. Of course, this takes time, but I'm still applying to studios. It's been rejections for a while now. My first reaction is usually, "Shit, my portfolio needs more recent art", which makes me panic and work on art, but Idk if that's just the sole reason. I remember from a past thread some anon mentioned companies using AI to sort through resumes automatically.

No. 2066984

My favorite thing about being a (non-corporate, alone at the bar every shift) bartender is I have 100% discretion to kick anyone out for any reason and my boss will back up me or any other bartender 1000%. She will just ask why and then go "lol good reason".

No. 2066987

>>2066119
Is that your art style?

No. 2067152

>>2064132
Congrats nonna, that's the first step in the next chapter of your life! (corny but real!) I suppose you had not moved to the US for the relationship, otherwise you could also look for job offers in other countries? Anyway good luck and stay strong!

No. 2067840

i don't even know what they want at this point
> got a new task, manager set the level and difficulty despite not being technical at all. He made it the lowest difficulty/shortest time period without consulting me
> spent a couple of days looking at the existing work (it was left incomplete after the previous person working on it left a year ago)
> spent a couple of days researching how to finish it.
> TOLD MY MANAGER IT WAS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS PROCESS.
> spent a couple of days testing it and ran into an issue; I asked the team in charge of that system for help and was in the middle of working through a solution with them when I got called in and scolded for being selfish/immature and not asking for help i guess??
> it was an important monitoring system and I had thought the time spent would be worthwhile and communicated this with my manager. I gave honest updates and said once the blocker was resolved i would have been able to finish the work in a day. Which is what happened.

I will admit I can have some issues with asking for help but I was still so taken aback. I still haven't replied to his message because I was so shocked, I was on vacation and I've been back for less than a week and it's already like this

Why are moids such shit communicators?? why did he wait until he was clearly so pissed off to put pressure on me?? if he wanted to expidate the task so badly he could have mentioned the priority instead of turning around and calling me all kinds of names out of the blue. In the meantime we had all sorts of meetings and tasks from other sources. I really miss working with women sometimes.

I need this job for the time being but I'm sick of how hostile the environment feels

No. 2067843

>>2066987
NTA but that's ralph bakshi's art for the movie wizard. Shit movie but it has great designs.

No. 2068313

>>2066987
KEK no but like anon said, the movie is retarded but the concept art was cool.

No. 2068893

As a new hire, how do you deal with a lead analyst who has a bad attitude? My manager is very hands off and left me with her so she can train me and it’s going about as well as you can expect. Whenever something goes wrong, her first response is to blame people instead of trying to fix things immediately like I do. She tells me to ignore people in my emails and also tries to micromanage me while criticizing what my manager taught me. Would it be too much to ask my manager to have him train me more than her? Her energy is so negative and pessimistic; being around this person constantly is making me think I picked the wrong job.

No. 2069304

Looking for jobs is so depressing. I don't think there's any hope for me unless I go back to school or learn a trade but I have to save money for it and decide what to do because I don't have time to pick something and not be at least tolerant of whatever field it is. I've worked at my current workplace for 5 years and in that time I've only gotten a $2 raise since then.

No. 2069558

Does anyone have advice for packing for work travel? I'm working 3 days/week for two months while renting an apartment, and I'll be driving my car to and from the job. So far I was thinking clothes, toiletries and electronics but I'm wondering if I'm overpacking or going to forget something important. Like I know I should bring a lunch bag and a couple containers for my food for my lunch breaks.

No. 2071275

I flirt too much at work with male coworkers and I’m actually scared now that someone’s going to say something. I’m trying to stop acting like a weird pick me and I’m going to start ignoring all men at work instead. Thankfully I only work directly with women so it will be easy.

No. 2071895

I've been working at a cafe for 2 years. I started studying nursing because I felt myself drawn to it and that my work before was meaningless. However, I just completed placement (I don't know what people call it in other countries, but it's basically work experience associated with study) and it was overwhelming. The constant patient care and demand stressed me out to the point a health issue I had exacerbated and worsened until it stopped. Does it get better? Am I screwed? I didn't realise I'm this averse to patient care until recently. I feel terrible because I told everyone this is what I want to do and now I don't feel sure anymore. I know I can handle customer service but this is different.

No. 2071899

>>2062806
Fast food and retail jobs are shitty but they'll get you there and you'll only have to be there for a few months. They're fairly easy to get (depending on economy and competition)

No. 2072375

>>2071895
Perhaps working in a supermarket would be better

No. 2072380

This video is important, for anyone thinking of college and student debt please watch

No. 2072389

>>2072380
I completely forgot this guy existed until now

No. 2074766

Nonitas, I just found my dream employer. It's a women-run semi-holistic nursing agency that takes care of mostly elderly in a culturally sensitive manner. The owner started it herself and she is the kindest, most caring individual in the business that I have met so far. I come from a background in nursing and worked for multiple group home agencies and facilities, even tried working in a hospital but it was no for me because im very sensitive and i disagree with having to discipline people who are in pain or cannot help their situation. My last boss was the worst; she was racist and rude and overbearing, calling me every day off i had to cover and throwing fits when i said no which is another problem i struggle with personally. I do art on the side as well and my time off is important.

I'm wishing everyone here finds this happiness in their careers. Still dealing with he culture shock tbh…I've never felt so fulfilled and appreciated in a job and if hings keep going this way I hope I can stay forever. Some clients are friendlier than others but that's to be expected. I want everyone to find their place and be happy in their work environment. It's so miserable when you're not and I hate hearing all the awful horror stories. Been there myself an i just want to give everyone hugs and make them their favorite comfort food or drink and listen.

No. 2074787

>>2074766
Nonna congratulations, that's so great! You deserve it, hope you can stay in that agency as long as you wish. And thank you for the positive and kind post ♥

No. 2075203

Where tHe FUCK are the entry-level jobs in applied math/stat/hard tech hiding? Everything seems to want at least a MS plus fucking four to five years of experience. Was I supposed to just have been grinding internships and studying at the same time for five years solid? I worked full-time as an analyst for a little under a year while I was doing my master's, and even that stressed me right the fuck out. It's starting to feel like I wasted a ton of money just to have a piece of paper that says I can do fancy math with computers.

No. 2076546

After 5 fucking months I found a job!!

It's at a tech shop, and doesn't pay much but holy fuck it's difficult to find anything. I guess the only downside is that I'll work with 4 other scrote, which is going to be weird, but holy fuck I finally have a job again!!

No. 2077614

>>2076546
congratulations anon!!! hope the scrotes aren't too bad

No. 2078739

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Just flunked a job interview for a role im perfectly suitable for, completely locked up and had to have a break in the middle to compose myself. Luckily I have another interview in two weeks but I'm afraid I'll do the same. Anyone got any advice to avoid blanking? Going to go to the Asian supermarket to cheer myself up.

No. 2078992

Should I interview for a babysitting job for 3 hours a day monday to friday? The only thing I’m worried about is the commute would be 1.5-2 hours total for $22/hr. I can really use the money but a lot of it would go toward gas and I’ll have to quit anyway when I start college next month again.

No. 2079003

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>have been doing part time at this grocery store
>when I first got in, had really chill managers who cared about their job
>over time one retired and another moved to another state
>new managers are the run-of-the-mill big chain store managers who are tolerable at best but will be passive aggressive assholes at worst
>saw them bitching about the down syndrome guy about how 'he doesn't do his job properly'
>yeah what the fuck do you expect? And he likes his job, never misses a day, and he never bothers anyone. Having a job does give quality of life to people (I know saying this is an oxymoron now a days because no one is paid properly + people are overworked to death because upper management wants to squeeze every penny they can, even if it results in a societal uprising and they get the guillotine)
>tfw my favorite part time is turning into another walmart.

Sorry for the tangent ramble on the last part. But yeah shit sucks. The boomers at walstreet and private equity firms literally ruining society aren't croaking fast enough.

No. 2079091

>>2078739
You can't stop a body's panic reaction, but you can prepare for the conditions during a panic reaction.
Write down or rehearse all the possible questions. Then, make your heart race by running, doing jumping jacks, pushups, whatever exercise makes your heart pump. Then once it's beating fast, start practicing your answers. It helps your brain get used to anxiety symptoms, while still being able to think through them. Once you feel like you've gotten the hang of this, do it more, but instead of doing exercise and answering the questions, stand in an ice cold shower while answering. This mimics your body panic freezing, so you'll be prepared if that reaction happens

No. 2079322

this is probably too niche but does anyone know if being an electronics engineer TECHNICIAN (2 year degree) is a good trade for women?

No. 2079345

>>2079091
This is wonderful advice, thank you nonette

No. 2079746

I applied to a job of my dreams, they closed the application after a few days, I got the rejection from them, and they opened the application again ughhh

No. 2080257

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Is 3 jobs in 4-5 years a bad look for the start of a professional resume? I'm thinking of moving countries this time next year, but by then I'll only have been at my current role for 18 months, and I was only in my previous roles for 18 months and 12 months respectively. I just need a change of scene, I still live in my college city and don't want to be the last one left, but if it does damage to my career prospects then I can happily wait it out for another six months.

No. 2080262

>>2079746
If it's really the job of your dreams see if you can get in contact with the hiring manager on Linkedin. A lot of them appreciate seeing initiative from applicants and if you don't get this one it could put your name higher on the candidates list the next time it comes up.

No. 2083056

made my first mistake at work, as i wasnt documenting things correctly. i was doing them right i just wasn’t properly logging in our system “hey, i did this.” didn’t realize why everyone was stressing about this thing that i’ve already done weeks ago until i piped up to my boss. i can tell i made her mad…it’s really over for me

No. 2083073

>>2062516
>this can be easy to afford
Can you braindead retards stop spreading this obvious misinformation?? MORTGAGE IS THROUGH THE ROOF, RENT IS THROUGH THE ROOF, HOME INSURANCE IS THROUGH THE ROOF, UTILIY BILLS ARE THROUGH THE ROOF, MINIMUM WAGE HAS NOT RISEN ALONG WITH INFLATION, CAR PAYMENTS RISING LIKE HELL. Just shut the fuck up, good god

No. 2083955

I've only been working at this job for a few weeks and already found out my boss is a racist magatard. She doesn't work with "certain demographics" because they don't show up on time or don't take our work seriously. We work with some elderly, disabled, or unhealthy patients and 9/10 times she says a nasty comment about them to me. Like "X is shaped like a blob" "Y looks a little creepy". It's never medically relevant info so I just don't respond or say "ok". Unprompted, she spews irrelevant things about gay people, Biden/Trump, etc. and she seems crazy to me but she is well respected by the patients. She is constantly paranoid I'm going to quit suddenly because it's happened to her so many times kek. Ngl I do think of quitting, but most of the time I work independently, so I don't have to deal with her. I also make twice as much as what I make at my other job.

No. 2083961

>>2083955
Why do those types work in healthcare where they know they will be servicing people from all walks of life? They are attracted to having power over the weak. If you’re getting paid 2X more than you did before don’t quit, try to work around it and ignore her, pretend to care about whatever nonsense she’s spewing it’s not worth losing paychecks over that you definitely need.

No. 2084100

>>2083961
Yeah, it is jarring coming from the corporate world where people were polite and sterile. Some of the worst, manipulative, mean people I've met are in this field. I am looking forward to working solo in the future, but for now I'm stuck.

No. 2084114

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so what do anons do as a side hustle? i need beer money

No. 2084118

>>2084114
I dabble in day trading or whatever you call it. I don't actively trade daily but I keep a close eye on my equity investments account and sell/buy when I see fit. It's about 1/5th of my savings and I've managed to beat inflation and make a few extra bucks with my portfolio, but even if I stopped actively managing it, it'd do fine since I've diversified it and covered my bases well I think. It's pretty low-effort because I'm a tired bitch with a corpo day job. Other than that I help my fam manage our orchards and get a cut of that.

No. 2084186

>>2084114
>beer money
If you are willing to spend hours of your life, Survey apps.
Prime opiniom/Qmee are the two I use. Survey junkie I another. They pay out really quick and qmee let's you cash out whatever you make, prime opinion is 500 points $5, though it has a lot of cool perks for long term use.
Like every 7 days you get a prize of points if you do one survey a day. If you do 500 surveys you get like $20 etc.
Good for beer money.

No. 2084207

>>2084186
>500 surveys 20 dollar
>30 seconds per survey (being generous)
>4 hour time investment to get 20 dollar

No. 2084431

>>2084186
yeah i used to do prolific surveys and it’s just not worth it anymore kek

No. 2084848

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Co-workers keep stealing and doing my tasks. I know I'm slow and that I suck but it's annoying me. One of them I've even already finished, was then told not to do it because it will be part of another story, but now the same co-worker is literally trying to do exactly that one. Wtf.

No. 2085205

>>2084207
>30 seconds per surveys
You are being very generous. I'm just a depressed unemployed alcoholic so I can spend hours to get like $5 (sad life), but I was thinking Nonna wanted to get a beer or too. So maybe she could spend a few hours to get 5 and get some super duper cheap ones.

No. 2085219

>>2083961
They probably think of it more like being in control of them instead of serving them

No. 2086344

Got hired for my first job ever and I'm feeling anxious about it. It's just a part time cashier job at a supermarket but the pay isn't bad (especially since I live with my mom kek), and I'm not worried about the job itself because I'm a fast learner. The thing I'm anxious about is that this is not what I went to college for (Biotech major btw, for all the good that did me since all the Biotech jobs are on the other side of my country) and I feel like a failure for taking this cashier job. Which I know is incredibly retarded because staying at home all day being a useless NEET and mooching off my mom would only make me an even bigger failure. I don't know, I've been hoping that I would get a job—ANY job—and now that it finally happened I still somehow find issues with it. I think I'll never be happy.
Anyway, I start on Monday. I met my coworkers today and they were very nice and helpful. Wish me luck nonnies

No. 2086368

>>2056993
i wish i had your job and you had mine kek…i WISH i had a codebase to fuck around in and presumably senior devs to beg for advice. how do you find being a starter female dev is btw do the guys give you a lot of trouble

No. 2086369

>>2085205
hope you get out of your slump soon but i’d need to make at least 13 an hour for it to be worth my time. maybe i should pick up a part time job on the weekends

No. 2086704

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>>2086368
I don't know what yours is but yeah WLB is pretty good so I can't complain there. We also pretty much never have to stay past 5 and I can get time to screw around if I don't have much to do.
>presumably senior devs to beg for advice
There's not much advice I can ask because everyone on the team is new, including the seniors, so we're all going off of little familiarity with the background and context of this project. I'm also all remote, although that's not exactly a plus for me as entry-level, because my messages online are constantly being ignored. I knew that would happen which is why I wanted a team that meets up in-person at least 2 or 3 days a week, as much as I despise working in an office. Much harder to be ignored and forgotten about when in person.
>do the guys give you a lot of trouble
Well I'm also >>2084848 so see that. But I experienced constant small sexisms since being a CS major, like getting what I said repeated back to me by a moid word for word as if it was his original thought, so nothing exactly new.

No. 2086882

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I just got my first office job after doing various smaller jobs over the years. I start Monday. I'm a bit excited but I'm also so nervous I'm beside myself. Wish me luck, nonnies. I'm gonna try being a normie now.

No. 2086886

>>2086882
Good luck anon, I hope you like your new job!

No. 2086913

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hey anons, weird question - I have a job, but I have been applying to others for a higher wage. None of them have responded to me… and I'm wondering if it's because of my resume. It's bare bones, includes my work history from 2016 onward, description of tasks and responsibilities, also notes my education and skills, but look at picrel. Should I be doing this? I'm almost tempted to start putting a professional photo of my face in there (or even do an AI professional photo lmao) and make it more decorative.. I'm a millennial so I thought that shit was annoying to employers but maybe I was taught by old fucks who don't get it

No. 2086929

>>2086344
I get it nonna. It's okay to be upset over not being where you should be. It's sad how common it is, but don't let this be the end. Keep applying while you work and I hope you land something better soon!

No. 2087095

>>2086913
>I'm wondering if it's because of my resume.
It could be. It could a whole host of other reasons that have nothing to do with you or your resume. I don't think it hurts to zhuzh it up. Personally, I would never put my picture on a resume, though. It feels like a bad idea imo

No. 2087116

>>2086913
I'd add a skills section if you don't have one (and update it based on the description of each role) but wouldn't put a photo on if I were you

No. 2087119

What would you do if your job makes you depressed and suicidal? The obvious answer would be to quit but what if I like money too much? My coworkers are all miserable and depressed including me, everyone talks shit about each other, my boss tries to be my friend outside of work which makes it really really fucking hard to quit because I’d feel like a I’d be disappointing her.

No. 2087126

>>2087119
What's the point of money if you're depressed and suicidal? You can't use all that money when you're dead.

No. 2087133

>>2087119
You don't owe your boss shit

No. 2087168

I'm so fucking bad at taking customer calls. what makes it even worse is that I'm losing my English, and they put me the first on line to take the calls. fuck me. I'm very surprised they didn't fire me on the spot when the saw my practice call. Jesus fucking christ.

No. 2087208

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Is it a bad idea to get a drastic haircut right before starting a new job? Currently it's Demi but I prefer being Poot. It's not a customer facing role.

No. 2087210

>>2086913
If you’re in the US, I wouldn’t include a photo. Because of anti-discrimination hiring laws, employers generally prefer resumes without photos to make things less biased. The only exception would be for something like modeling/acting. Instead you could make some kind of simple graphic to put where the photo would be in that example. Could be something like your initials or a pictogram related to your field.

No. 2087561

It's crazy that I have to create a job because I'm so fucking autistic that I either get bullied out of office jobs or can't find a place that has the right environment. I knew it would be something I'd have to do sooner or later but it's bullshit.

No. 2087572

>>2087561
Same. My advice to you is for if you get a office job again is for you to work less and talk more. These type of environments hold being social to a higher degree than how hard you work.
Spending more time being social amd charismatic will fix those issues with the bullying.

No. 2087620

>>2087572
It wasn’t just the bullying but my health started taking a hit with the stress of working there. I might do the office thing in the future but it would have to be on my terms.

No. 2087639

>>2087572
>These type of environments hold being social to a higher degree than how hard you work.
You're not at work to be social. This is the kind of mindset that enables completely useless yet talkative manager and executive types to thrive. If you're in a technical field none of the people working under you that have no interest in climbing ladders and playing games will like you if you're all talk but no walk.

No. 2089430

I'm unironically considering becoming a tard wrangler and working in group homes. Does anyone have any expierence in this career field or similar lines of work?

No. 2089444

>>2087639
ffs this is why you autists get bullied. I'm not the one who made these rules nor do I have that mindset. I was giving anon advice on how to survive those environments as someone who is NOT social either. re-read my post again.

No. 2089938

>>2086913
I don't know if this would be helpful but I 1:1 copied the layout design of a random PhD student's resume they had linked online. Just used my own preferred fonts and personal info from work/school. My old resume design got reamed at college because the professors disliked the column layout, I had the categories out of order etc.

No. 2089944

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Nonnies who have personal websites, which host did you decide to go with? I started making one on Notion, but I'm hesitating because it gives you a randomized url and you have to upgrade to a paid subscription to change it. There's also wordpress, squarespace, I was even thinking about making a neocities but I wasn't sure if that would seem too unprofessional…

No. 2091139

>>2086913
i would personally NOT do this, it makes you stand out in a bad way (imo). i only helped hire once but i have helped college students with resumes and my advice is always keep it simple and let your degrees/experience/certifications speak for themselves with short description, consistent formatting, and check grammar/spelling multiple times. afaik resumes like this make employers roll their eyes but maybe that's just my experience

>>2089430
idk my coworker used to work at a place like that and retarded moids tackled her

No. 2091676

No one in companies knows how to read and respond properly. I'm sick of having to repeat myself or being replied with something too vague and assuming. And yet I just got gaslit that -I- was the one who was unclear after something I had CC'd a whole e-mail chain to her about and telling me to provide her screenshots, when I already did. Wtf! Y'all just need to learn to read and actually tell me the first time around.

No. 2091709

>>2089444
>bullied
I am quite respected by my colleagues and supervisor but nice try.
What are you saying is based on your goals. HR and executive types think you should be nothing but a chatterbox "team player" that is a carbon copy of Leslie Knope no matter where you are, all the time, but the moment I entered my team the pressure to be like that has been non-existant if you're not into ladder-climbing. It's usually only an expectation once you start wanting promotions. That's all.

No. 2092066

>>2087208
KEK i love the phrasing. if you already have bagged the job, go for it. i'd say go for it regardless, but i guess it'd be more risky if you were still in the hiring process. one of my former coworkers shaved her head and had short hair while working at a customer facing job and no one gaf, especially not our bosses.

No. 2092293

I’ve exhausted my sick leave and will be going into the negative tomorrow. I’m genuinely too sick to leave bed today with covid. I’m sicker much more often than my coworkers and it makes me uneasy that I’m going to be fired one day despite my country having strict protections for employees over that. I’m also a useful employee that never complains or otherwise gives them trouble in the 4 years I’ve been there. My experience in the past has been everywhere I’ve worked there’s been the one bitch who’s sick alll the time and if they’re a good employee it’s just tolerated and not a problem. I hope that’s me, anyway that’s what I’m going with. Sorry for blogpost, I’m just particularly anxious about my absenteeism. Any other nonas in the same boat?

No. 2092535

>>2089430
Bad idea. The tards are on a whole other level in group homes, some of them are chill but most of them are the kinds who attack people. The staff are the worst part. There's more drama and retardation coming from the workers than the actual speds in the home. The pay is beyond shit. Don't do it unless you are desperate for work.

No. 2092629

I hate that one guy in my office more and more everyday. He won't stop yelling and gossiping in the open office again, he won't stop loudly slurping his own saliva, now he wants to plan some afterwork with all of us and former coworkers and I heard him on the phone automatically including me so now I need a pretext to not come to whatever this is, and I have plenty of excellent excuses but they're far too personal. I just heard him saying he'll call a former coworker on her personal phone number to invite her but she never gave him her number for a reason. So now he's illegally looking for her number on her resume from like 2 years ago at least. Now I'm gonna be paranoid as hell because I'm the type who doesn't care about work and coworkers and he's so dumb and disrespectful he could potentially try to stalk me if I leave this company. I'm gonna alog.

No. 2092667

>>2092629
He has been yelling on the phone for a whole hour now I should have ate outside for my lunch break instead of ordering takeout.

No. 2093054

I work for two software teams but I’m on a fixed contract term to work for only one. I really don’t want to be working for the second one right now, but I don’t have a good excuse to quit it as I’m not busy at all and the work isn’t really that hard, it’s just tedious. I’m getting paid the same as everyone else at my level (~20 dollars an hour, barf) so it’s not as though I’m being rewarded for doing twice the amount of work. Should I consider stepping back from the second team so I can just piss the days away? The only benefit I can see by staying is potentially keeping the possibility open for when this contract ends and I’m looking for a permanent job, but I’m not even sure I’d want to keep this role with them.

No. 2093540

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I’ve been working on starting my business. Basically speedrunning it because I want money coming in. Everyone in my family is excited for me and my mom is even financing the startup money. The only one who seems against it is my husband. Earlier this year I signed up for retard bootcamp but shocker nobody was hiring. I feel bad because I told my husband it would be a really good idea to find something else for me. Now I’m doing the same thing with this business. earlier today I got a permit and when I showed him the receipt was stapled to the front and he freaked out that it’s putting us in the red for this month. I just want this venture to be worth it but unfortunately it’s in dog walking so guaranteed not a lot of money unless I expand which I plan on doing if it goes well. My goal is to be successful enough to have a fleet of dog walkers and make them pay me a fixed percentage of their earnings.

No. 2093578

>>2093540
>My goal is to be successful enough to have a fleet of dog walkers and make them pay me a fixed percentage of their earnings.
So you're starting an MLM?

No. 2093610

>>2093578
No, MLM’s make you buy product to sell. I’d be like a cleaning service.

No. 2094325

My managers are constantly making us take "anonymous" employee surveys and leave good scores.Im kind of sick of it so i just skipped this last one and told them ive submitted it. Now im hearing back from them about not doing my survey. Doesnt this prove its not really anonymous?

No. 2094326

>>2093540
I'm not trying to discourage you but why do you need a permit right away for a dog walking business? That's a job similar to cleaning, moving lawns, babysitting…why do you need a permit before you even get clients? Is it country specific or

No. 2094329

>>2093540
this does sound rash. start walking dogs yourself and then go on to see if you can get enough business to need employees, you seem like you're jumping the gun.

No. 2094428

>>2094329
Thats what I plan on doing. I thought about working for another business but I was told they’d make me sign a contract so I couldn’t open my own.
>>2094326
I called a small business help line and they sent me a checklist on things I needed. An occupancy permit for my home was step 2.

No. 2095222

being an “at will” employee is so stressful. i keep thinking i’m going to walk in one day and my boss will have fired me something random

No. 2095240

My manager just said I'm the employee who does the most tickets in our whole support team, by a lot. I was laughing internally because it isn't that I work hard, it's just because I found a way to bypass their stupid management restrictions and only do quick/easy tickets. I'm probably the employee who works the least in the whole team. I do like 4-5 hours of actual work. Here I am posting on lolcow on the clock. Dumb fucks, these numbers mean nothing. Meanwhile people who actually work hard and do important tasks get criticized for doing a lot less tickets. I hate management. Ticket amount literally means nothing, they only like it because it's the only metric that can justify their useless job.

No. 2095245

>>2094428
I would start by considering yourself a sole proprietor and only spend time and money registering a business and getting kennel permits (I assume that's what they were talking about) if it scales up. I've been self-employed for three years and have seen little benefit in registering my business considering the extra work involved.
If you signed up for Wag or something similar, they would likely just deactivate your account in the unlikely event they found out you were dog walking off the app, so it's no big deal. The only way they would find out is if you told the clients you booked through them about your services using their messaging system

No. 2095325

>>2095240
Make sure to praise your hardworking coworkers. It makes a difference to be acknowledged, even if it's something small, and even by a colleague.

No. 2095459

>>2094325
Some companies will screw you over, but ime most of them are decently anonymous, particularly when they're administered by a reputable third party.
Your responses are absolutely tied and to your employee ID, and I'm sure that if an employee made a death threat in a survey, the survey company would deanonymize that user. But this is typically just used to get you to take the survey; at some companies I worked at, the survey company did not even give this much information, meaning that the whole company would get spammed with survey reminder emails over and over and over because 10% of the company was not filling them out.
Additionally, a lot of surveys still identify you by things like job title, location, or years of experience, which can easily deanonymize you, especially if you leave a written response. Most survey companies group respondents together and do not allow admin to have access to grouped respondents if there's less than, say, 5 people in that group, so their responses will only be included as part of company-wide ratings.
However, do not trust surveys that are administered by the company directly, and never say anything that will deanonymize you, as your comments are just comments and it can often be pretty obvious who would leave such a comment.
Anyways, just be diplomatic on your surveys. They're not a place to emotionally vent your frustrations, even if it feels good to air out your grievances. They're mostly used for bullshit metrics so that HR can justify their own jobs and as a justification for firing managers whose employees are unhappy for reasons that may or may not have anything to do with direct management.

No. 2095520

>>2095245
Yup I’m sole proprietor and the goals I have previously listed are long-term goals so none I plan on achieving any time soon. That’s exactly why it was suggested. I told them I put pet sitting/dog walking when registering the business but probably won’t pet sit as my building probably wouldn’t allow it. It was cheap to get the permit and yes it is considered my office as I use my computer to work for advertising etc. I just want to work my way up to what I feel comfortable with lol.

No. 2095657

>>2095520
Can you go to customers' homes and look after their pets? Of course you'd have to go through a lot more hoops, but it's something to consider if you want extra cash and you can't look after pets in your own home.
>>2095325
This! Acknowledging your coworkers goes a long way. Point out how this person has such difficult tickets, that person is great at using the systems efficiently, that sort of thing. It can really help ease the pressure on everyone too.

No. 2095682

>>2095657
That's what I was thinking too but I'll only offer if they're returning customers.

No. 2095926

my current job pays 26 an hour and other positions in this field pay 20 an hour. anything that pays over 26 requires experience that i am NOT going to get in this current position, where nobody can help me if shit hits the fan outside of re-hiring a contract worker that i'm supposed to replace (luckily this has only happened once in the 6 months i've been here). kind of don't know what to do. it's "tech" but it's braindead easy tech, i'm just writing simple sql scripts, doing some data cleaning, and fucking around with azure.

i'm going to get a (few hopefully) azure certs and keep my fingers crossed. maybe study javascript or something. coming in every day is killing me though i feel that constant press of "today is the day they realize i'm horribly under-scheduled and they will fire me they've gotten all their use out of me it's over"

No. 2096287

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I hate working with Indians, not going to lie. They constantly talk over you and talk way too much, literally just keep going on and on and on. Many of them are also not as competent as they think they are. I have to work one-on-one with one right now and he just ruined my workspace by making me delete it a bunch of times for no good reason even though it was working fine. He frequently doesn't respond in call (Just disappears without saying anything wtf). He often won't respond in chat unless I then send a message in the general chat too, after which he'll immeadietly respond because he's worried about looking like he's "not helping". You aren't, you asshole. Funnily enough, it seems he'll expect ME to reply immeadietly because he'll message me first thing in the morning with nothing but "Good morning" and "How are you?" which comes off just creepy, weird, and annoying to me. I hate people at work that message me without getting to the point.

No. 2096294

>>2096287
Oh yeah, he made me allow remote access to my computer while we were troubleshooting for no good reason too. I did so, but reluctantly. I felt very uncomfortable having my computer controlled like that, like I was about to have Microsoft Tech Support wire transfer $5000 from my account because I "have virus".

No. 2096814

>>2086882
Shitty blog update, but I just finished my first week at work and I think it went well. I'm sure I'll fuck something up at some point, but I'm quite happy at the consistency of the job and my coworkers seem fairly nice. I hope I can get the hang of things.

No. 2096898

>>2096287
I work with Indians too and they repeat themselves sooo much, it's weird. The moids also are so weird, especially if you're white. I've noticed that they also don't like if you says things like "sure" and "uh huh" to show that you're listening and understand. They literally will start over their sentence when I say "okay" so I just stay silent now.

Must be a culture thing because the women do it too.

No. 2097067

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this killed me

No. 2097074

>>2096287
I get you, I had a job interview for the biggest job opportunity in my life in another country, it was almost sure I would have gotten the internship because of previous interviews with the same company but the hiring manager invited some Indian coworker or client without telling me beforehand, the guy could barely speak English correctly and had a horrible, incomprehensible accent at the same time (saying this as an ESL), his internet connection was awful, he couldn't stop saying stupid off topic shit or cutting me off and I had to make him repeat himself so many times because of all of this that the hiring manager thought I was dumb and didn't hire me. I've never seen anything like this before, it was the most unprofessional guy I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen some crazy shit before and after that.

No. 2097170

>>2097067
Competent overqualified people are less likely to get hired for shit jobs like that because managers know they'll walk away as soon as they are able to.

No. 2097957

>>2097067
>>2097170
This was me when I was looking for my first job and can confirm. You sound too smart or are too honest about your lack of experience, for a wagie job of all things, and you're out.
>well-dressed
I hope the person in the post didn't walk in full suit and tie or something either though. lol

No. 2097972

>>2097067
I wouldn't hire that person either they'd obviously deeply resent the job immediately and whine about the workload, water temperature etc. Wannabe cooks are the best dishies.

No. 2098265

Is it feasible to work a part-time job alongside doing a master’s degree? I’m not sure what postgraduate workload is like but I’d really like to earn some money.

No. 2099717

>>2093054
No1curr but after I asked for less work from my secondary team I got even more work. Lol. Lmao even

No. 2102273

If you are told by a manager “people are saying you ____” with regards to a criticism, do you have a right to ask who? In my example, someone ratted on me that I wasn’t happy about my pay level considering how long I had been at the company and my responsibilities. It was a minor vent but possibly could’ve been ratted out by multiple people. In my state, employees have a right to discuss pay and any action taken against them for doing so is unlawful.

No. 2102354

>>2101392
I feel like the only reason I got my current job is that my interviewer also seemed neurodivergent tbh

she transferred but I will always appreciate her, and one of my other managers is also

No. 2102691

I suck at my job. I'm too retarded for it. I think they're realizing it and they're gonna cut me out at the end of the month. Thinking of going back to my old job but that would be embarrassing and I think everyone there hates me. Love my life.

No. 2102854

Did I make a professionalism mistake or is my boss mentally stuck in high school?

I’m an intern at a corporation and just wrapped up a final presentation that covered everything I did over the summer. I presented it the exact way I practiced with my boss, and think I did a pretty good job. After, someone asked “what was your favorite part about interning here?” And I answered that I loved how other teams were able to take me under their wing and teach me stuff I was curious about learning in addition to the team I was interning with.

My boss has been cold and rude to me ever since and I didn’t understand why until I asked my coworker and she told me that it was because my answer to this question didn’t center OUR team I was working with. Did I fuck up?

No. 2102872

>>2102854
All corporate bosses behave at least a little bit like vidrel (I recommend this series of videos btw it's so funny yet scarily accurate) so I'm going to assume they're just being petulant.

No. 2102930

>>2102854
This can be considered poaching which is a conflict of interest so yes, that was the wrong thing to say. Not right of your boss to not explain it to you either, since you're just an intern, however.

No. 2102968

>>2102854
>>2102930
Kek I would make the exact same "mistake" nonnie. These unspoken work rules are fucking stupid. I'm glad people in the country I work in are autistic so nobody cares about shit like that.

No. 2102971

>>2102854
Your boss is stupid. It's notable that you'd be able to work with many teams. It's not notable to get mentorship from your own assigned team. Your boss got their fee fees hurt for no reason.

No. 2103064

>>2102968
Oh no I made the exact same one and had my mentor who was anal about this stuff explain it to me (She wouldn't even write me a recommendation letter for a scholarship I wanted, because getting it would have likely meant not coming back to work there. ffs) It's the only reason I know. lol I agree it's dumb, especially when people have to put it over some human kindness.

No. 2103107

my contract is 40 hours per week and not [x] amount of hours per day. what this means i’ve discovered is if i come in early some days i can leave early. so getting here around 7:30 and leaving at 4:30 is actually sanctioned by my boss

No. 2103272

im crying at work in the bathroom rn post something funny nonnas

No. 2103283

>>2103272
Look at the Taylor R thread in w for laughs at the desperation for any bit of a dairy product

No. 2103297

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No. 2103314

>>2102930
No, it's not. Poaching involves working with competing companies…it's not poaching to work with different departments of your workplace…

No. 2103341

>>2096287
idk if I have scam PTSD or what but it's the same thing. I don't even attend interviews if the interviewer has an indian name

No. 2103367

>>2103314
She did not say whether the other team is in the same department or not, but it can happen internally. When I was an intern and reached out to someone I know in the same company that was in the same department and role but a different team, I asked her if there's anything I can help her team with (Because no one in mine was really giving me anything to do yet lol) and I was told no because that would be poaching.
Either way, she should probably look into the clause of her employment because it may have better information.

No. 2103609

>>2103367
Hi, I’m the OP nona. It’s actually encouraged throughout the whole company for interns to experience doing small tasks for different departments when they have time (not every day, maybe twice or thrice a month max) to see if it’s something they like doing. You’re definitely right that this is something that isn’t super normal (or even acceptable) in a lot of companies, which is why I thought it was notable enough to mention as something that was most special about this particular internship.

I really do regret not saying anything about my team, who have otherwise been good to me, so I’m not trying to make it look like I’m a victim. I am on the aspire spectrum though and stuff like this (as well as the emphasis on fucking 5 minute long steady eye contact when it’s so difficult but I still try my best) reminds me almost every day that this world might not be for me. The eye contact thing might seem random but people have literally complained about it. So many etiquette rules as nona >>2102968 pointed out are so arbitrary and my least favorite part of work.

No. 2104092

I started my new job two weeks ago and I feel like everyone is so rude to me. They said in training "there's no such thing as stupid questions" but it's such a lie people immediately lose patience with you if you try to ask anything but then also rage at you for not knowing something that no one bothered to mention. I also overheard people bitching about one of the other new hires so I'm sure they're in the break room talking so much shit about how I'm retarded and useless too.

No. 2104168

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I guess this is the best thread to ask this.
Anybody went/goes to Cambridge University? How is/was your experience there?

No. 2104496

told my boss i could do webdev only to learn their setup is entirely different from what i’m used to, and i’m not the best at css/html besides. i can make a box on a page and center it. i have until september/october so i’m not sweating too bad but kek…i was hired for something completely different anyway

No. 2104807

>>2104496
so five hours later and i’ve decided i can do this easily kek

No. 2105099

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Has anyone heard of this phenomenon called “overemployed”? It sounds much more generic than what it is—it’s a movement of people who are hoarding multiple full-time jobs to have total salaries of $200k+. A lot of these people are very senior in their careers but are purposefully collecting entry-level analyst and senior analyst jobs because it’s less responsibility supposedly (which directly fucks over the college grads looking for their first job). I would say the majority of them are gen X/millennial age and many of them are in tech but also data analyst/business analyst roles. Many of the posts talk about making $300k per year.
I looked into the economic data on this but it unfortunately doesn’t reflect the actual numbers because most people are trying to do this under the table to avoid tax liabilities and the companies finding out. Personally I’m very concerned as to if this multiple job culture is going to fuck us over in the long run because there will be even more of a shortage of jobs to go around, particularly for young people who are trying to start their careers and have less opportunities to do so. Sure you could say that this has always been a problem but it’s definitely been exacerbated by the rise of remote work which makes these schemes easier to pull off…
The subreddit that I learned about this on is called r/overemployed if you nonas wanna check it out.

No. 2105105

>>2105099
I think it’s also a symptom of how studies increasingly show that you now need like 2-300k for a full family to actually live what used to be our standard for a good middle class life, due to the astronomical cost of living, the housing crisis etc., in addition to that tons of jobs are bullshitting about how much work and time is actually required on them. Since the pandemic, tons of jobs are going remote and showing just how much time was wasted in the office. But in many other countries this is already well known, and it’s common for office workers to only clock in a couple hours a day, finish all their tasks, and just go home.

No. 2105125

>>2105105
Yeah these things are all true so I can empathize, but ofc hoarding all of the jobs (most of them analyst to senior analyst roles) hurts those who are trying to get their foot in the door. Many people talked about their massive credit card debt and mortgages in that subreddit as if their own terrible financial decisions somehow justify poaching the few legitimate jobs that exist online from people who are unemployed and looking for their next gig.

No. 2105252

>>2097957
>>2097170
Advice for getting these kinds of jobs while "overqualified"? I'm going back to school to prep for a postgrad degree and need a part-time job while I do that.

No. 2105367

>>2105252
Omit certain things from your resume?
Though I got a lower wagie job with a degree listed on mine since I plan to go back to school myself at some point, they didn't care.

The most important thing is if you're going for a part time or wagie job, show them you can meet the requirements for what they want esp if you have any past experience in that field unrelated to school (i.e. when I was in college the first round I worked customer service the entire time)

No. 2105382

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There's these pyramid scheme jobs called devilcorps that fucking plague my local listings and while I'd like to get a better job than my current possibly starting off in marketing all these fucking MLM ass door to door selling inside Costco losers are obscuring the legitimate jobs. Picrel is one of thousands of their spawn.

No. 2105450

>>2105099
>phenomenon
How is that a phenomenon? There have always been people holding down multiple jobs.
I fully support it when people are not being paid what they're worth and work for an employer that would lay them off without thinking twice (Which is most employers in the US). You don't owe a company any loyalty and your loyalty will never be recquited.

No. 2105485

>>2105450
nayrt, but it’s because a phenomenon is simply “a thing that happens”. and yes, as you have pointed out, people working multiple jobs has been a thing that happens for a long time now. some examples of other phenomena would be solar eclipses, taking a shit every day, and burning dinner because you got distracted and forgot the stove was on.
anyway, regarding the subreddit, it popped up as a suggestion in my home feed once a while back. seemed interesting, so I browsed a bit. users seemed a bit smug (but that’s most of reddit). it does feel shitty when you can’t even find 1 legitimate WFH job and you read all these posts from people with 2-3.

No. 2105923

>>2105485
Thanks anon for jumping in, you summed it up perfectly. I don’t care if people have a part-time job, freelance, or have a side business. That doesn’t affect other people negatively. Now taking another full-time job that could otherwise give someone professional experience, rent money, and health insurance just so you can rack up a yearly salary of $400k is selfish as fuck. Do I think there are increasing costs of living that are probably influencing this desperation for multiple jobs? Sure, but unless you’re in San Francisco or New York, sabotaging others for anything above $300k is not necessary and is your own greed to live extravagantly. That subreddit often has people talking about the joys of buying luxury cars from the dealer for full price. They also write about being able to pay off their credit cards and shitty loans, while actively fucking over everyone else in this job market (particularly young professionals). I’m employed but I know I’m just one layoff away from being back in this situation and having to compete against these people for jobs. Perhaps this is also why applicant counts are so astronomically high on job postings as well, kek.

No. 2106451

>>2105367
So were you open about how you were planning to return to school during interviews? Sounds similar to my situation.
I'll include the retail job I worked during the pandemic in my resume but not sure if I should omit my more white collar jobs (or maybe I should just focus on the aspects relevant to the positions?)

No. 2106803

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I need help. I was a teacher for one year but left the job because it gave me severe anxiety, to the point where I couldn't function like I normally would. It wasn't the workload or the schedule, it was getting in front of a group of 25 students (adults, not kids) and having to speak. The stress and anxiety around having to do public speaking actually caused my epileptic disorder to get worse kek. So I left the job.

Now I've been jobless for 3 months, constantly applying to jobs I actually want to do and that are more solitary than teaching. But out of sheer desperation I applied for a teaching job on a whim and literally the next day the school contacted me and asked for an interview. I said yes but now I'm shitting myself because I would rather drink acid than do teaching again. But no other job has contacted me and I'm desperate. The interview hasn't happened yet but I feel like they're going to make an offer because I already spoke to an HR manager and she made it sound like they were desperate.

Nonnas, if they make an offer do I accept it? Or should I wait in case one of the other jobs I actually want contacts me? I really do not want to teach again because the public speaking aspect fucked me up mentally and physically. I don't know what to do.

No. 2106816

>>2106451
I mentioned I was considering going back to school, yes. They don't mind since I'm basically part time right now, I was gonna crank my way up to full time but I hadn't had a job in months and it's not easy at the place I am to get fulltime hours unless you're a straight up manager. I'd like a second job but I'm very burnt out with job searching and interview type shit right now kek

I would say you could just include everything, apply to places, see if they respond, if they don't then maybe remove the more white collar positions. If you land an interview with the other jobs listed then just focus on the aspects related to the part time position at hand

No. 2106885

>>2106816
Thanks for the advice! I appreciate it.
>>2106803
I would say don't do it unless you're seriously in need of cash. There's very little more important than your health and from what you're saying it sounds like teaching had a serious impact on yours.

No. 2106983

>>2105485
A "phenomenon" usually carries implication that an event is unordinary or can't be explained.
I don't think there is anything unordinary about people taking up multiple jobs anymore, with this economy, and it can be explained why when a single job is insufficient.
>does feel shitty when you can’t even find 1 legitimate WFH job and you read all these posts from people with 2-3
What sort of skills do you bring? I am one of those people that have a side gig in addition to my day job but I also bring in a specialized skillset. Most people look for WFH jobs that are too generic (like data entry or filling out surveys), and they don't have a specific one in mind which is why they usually can't find any. If you have a niche to fill that would help. Stay away from WFH call center jobs, though. Those will make you kill yourself.

No. 2106993

>>2105923
If you mean two 9 to 5s, I'm not sure what you mention even is possible without one of your employers eventually catching you or having your performance at one job significantly affect the other. There's only so many hours in the day and only so much you can multitask before burnout.

No. 2107190

Has anyone ever quit a new office job when you're only in for a little less than a month? I think I'm gonna do it on Monday

No. 2107193

>>2107190
Yep. Ironically they took it easy because they hated me as much as I hated them.

No. 2107204

>>2107193
kek did you get anything lined up though?

No. 2107334

IDK if this makes sense but I'm starting to feel bad because I'm realizing at every level jobs aren't paying a lot…it feels really dispiriting to feel like you're climbing a ladder for better benefits/pay/etc but then you find out everyone there is already struggling.
>started in retail with min wage and probably made $2 more as a pharmacy tech
>went to community college and got an associates degree
>left to work in a public school system, pay is almost $5 more but with less hours it's unlivable in the long term
>don't want to be a teacher because it requires a master's degree + 30 years for maximum retirement benefits
>have multiple teacher coworkers who had over 100k in student loans and also work on the side as adjunct professors to make ends meet
>senior year of bachelor's program and just had an internship at a museum, used some savings to enjoy the experience but I also found out how little my coworkers earn despite the level of education/degrees some of them have, museums have super tight budgets or have even laid off staff because they're not doing great post-covid
After I graduate I'll probably look into government/state jobs for security but it's like, where do things get better. When am I going to be able to have my own place to live and not feel stressed all the time. I'm not surprised so many people have started buying houses or to rent rooms because it's such an easy way to get money.

No. 2107776

>>2106993
Yes I mean two 9 to 5s, these people have multiple 9 to 5 full-time jobs that are remote and 'work' them all at once.

No. 2108732

My boss is very obviously bipolar and I wish he would get diagnosed so he can take meds and stop randomly blowing up at employees.

No. 2108746

My coworker talks horribly about his ex boss all the time (an older woman) and calls her a fat cunt etc etc but he never actually explained to me why he hated her, and I realize now it’s probably because he shows up an hour and a half late to work every single day and also wants to leave early every single day. What do I say to him the next time he shit talks her? I’m not a confrontational person but it’s starting to annoy me.

No. 2108794

>>2107334
I’m curious what attracted you to each of these jobs. I’m not trying to be mean, but none of these are well-known for having particularly competitive salaries so there has to be something else?

A word of caution if you go into government work, especially in museums, is that you’re still affected by government shutdowns. Make sure you have a healthy savings to account for that. Also, work-life balance in many museum roles is nonexistent.

No. 2109054

Having Sunday blues again and haven't got anything done today because I've been so anxious about going to work for another week again. I'm being pulled to be part of project I really don't want to be involved in, I just want to do troubleshooting instead deal with annoying people who can't agree with each other on anything. I feel awful being part of this change that is not liked by the staff that needs to deal with it at all, and I can't stand their venting anymore.

No. 2109474

i've requested to wfh tomorrow at 9:12 pm on a sunday and i am very quite nervous kek…i really have no way of making it to the office though. fingers crossed god i want to sleep in until like 7

No. 2109504

>>2109474
my boss approved it and i am really really really praying she realizes i do not need to come in every single day for a job where i receive virtually no training (outside of people priming me on business-specific issues, but even 100% of that could just be a fucking phone call or an email – i don't mean to complain this is an incredibly sweet gig i am just fucking saying)

No. 2109510

>>2105099
>A lot of these people are very senior in their careers but are purposefully collecting entry-level analyst and senior analyst jobs because it’s less responsibility supposedly (which directly fucks over the college grads looking for their first job).
may all of them kill themselves

No. 2109988

>>2108746
there's not really any way to confront him without him starting to say the same things about you unfortunately, some people are allergic to being self aware

No. 2112452

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does any nonnas have any exp reporting a manager to hr?
my manager has become a huge pain to work with - two tenured employees have been fired in the last couple months because of how strictly she's enforcing some guidelines (adjacent teams don't do this). another worker had resigned (with another job lined up) but left a day earlier because they were fed up with how she treated him. i/some coworkers have a bunch of personal examples of her lying/treating us disrespectfully/etc… another coworker told me that our last lead resigned because of her but didn't go too in depth about it.
hr has set up some meetings with some of us this week which according to our manager 'isn't anything bad' but 'sometimes they like to check in.' but she has been LOVE BOMBING our team ever since she made that announcement. it's crazy how responsive and kind she's become in the last few days, i know it won't last… but i'm wondering if anyone has had any GOOD experiences of reporting a manager to HR and something worthwhile happening..? im always paranoid that reporting someone could come back to haunt me but she is KILLING our team. i want something done but at the same time i'm at a pretty critical period of my employment and im scared to jeopardize it but i really want her reported because i can't imagine how many more people we'll lose due to her tyranny.

No. 2112668

I work at a library and have a co worker who is literally the right wing caricature of the "blue haired liberal" and its getting annoying. I do think it's important to care about social issues to a degree, but she came in on my day off and tore down all my light hearted leisure reading displays to put up books about Palestine. Now I'm going to have to deal with complaints from patrons and insane book banning boomers targeting my workplace. My supervisior just simply Yass Kween'd this under the rug but I can't take her constantly policing my work and forcing world politics into every conversation. This is simply just one of a thousand times she had done this. I genuinely think she might push me to quit.

No. 2113654

I’m miserable because I’ve been kind of pushed into a role where I need to manage people and I fucking hate anything where I need to be involved with other people. There’s constant conflict and complaining and I’m way too autistic and sensitive to deal with this. Half of my energy goes to controlling my emotions so I won’t cry.

No. 2113687

>>2108746
Can't you go to HR about him calling women cunts? And your boss about his work ethic? You should start making logs of dates and times and specifics of when he does this

No. 2114245

>>2112668
Out-SJW her. Butt in and demand to know why she's buying hair dye when that money could go to saving dying children. Ask if she's planning on donating to actual worthy causes instead of shoving her privilege in everyone's faces when she brings up an event she's going to or a purchase she made. Complain that she hasn't included trans Palestinian authors in her displays and hint at her being the evil of evils, a dreaded TERF. Pester her to show proof of donations to whatever cause she's championing, then needle her about ignoring the ten million other causes she hasn't helped. Demand to see the donation amounts, if they're high be passive aggressive about how only the bourgeoisie can afford to give away money like that, if they're low bitch about how she's prioritizing her own first-world comfort and trivial needs over the literal survival of displaced Palestinians.
And develop a mental health disorder that you tell your boss about in private BEFORE you start doing this. That way, when she complains about you, you can explode at her for genociding you and complain to HR (or whatever library equivalent of HR you have) that she's causing a hostile workplace and targeting you because of your condition.

No. 2114301

>>2114245
kek. I love you nona

No. 2114307

>>2112668
I've worked with people like this, and it's literally so exhausting. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. What is it with blue hair? My blue haired liberal coworker compliments the trannies in our job all the time and says "omg i wish i was as beautiful as you." makes me gag

No. 2117451

if i don't get this fucking job i'm going to rip my hair out

No. 2117734

my job put me on this info session course about one of the programs we use and the course had an exam at the end and it's the most fucking headache inducing shit i've ever done. it's a simple program and i have no problem understanding it but the way theyve structured this exam makes everything 500x more complicated than it needs to be. 6 different attachments with instructions, not in order, half of the instructions for one section of the exam in one attachment and a couple pieces of instructions in another attachment but none of it is communicated. like the attachments dont talk to each other if that makes sense. i get halfway through one section and then realize i have to erase it all and go back to add an option into a drop down menu so i can select that option on the section i had already created.
FUCK it's so frustrating!! i was supposed to be done this exam 3 weeks ago and i didn't, i just thought the instructor will just mark me as did not complete or something but no, she's still emailing me asking when i'll finish it. and it's been busy as fuck at work and i keep getting pulled away to do other shit. I wish they would just mark me as did not complete. i really don't care at this point because that exam is so fucking retarded and i dont even get anything out of it other than a gold star and piece of paper that says completed.

No. 2117751

My old company is continuing to try and fill an open entry-level role, one that I was happy to fill when job-searching as someone who had previously already worked there as an intern and did good work. Good, fuck them. I hope it continues being unfilled.

No. 2117931

Has anyone ever worked as a medical lab technician or knows someone who does? It looks interesting enough and I'm going through the process of getting my degree, but admittedly, all the math and science prerequisites seem daunting. Sometimes I wonder if I'm even smart enough to get through it.

No. 2117989

>>2117931
My cousin studied biotechnology. It is hard at first but once you get a hang of it, it gets easy.

No. 2118082

How do you get out of a job that is extremely toxic, all coworkers agree with this sentiment, and nothing else seems to be hiring around me?

No. 2118111

>>2118082
Online job, likely to be just as toxic but in a different way. Or move. There really is no other option unless you throw yourself in a frenzy searching for one nearby and manage to snag it

No. 2118126

>threaten to quit and give boss 2 weeks if she doesn’t give me less hours so i can go to fucking therapy because this job makes me miserable
>we come to an agreement and i retract the 2 weeks notice
>few weeks later, happy and at peace
>she schedules me for some bullshit again
>i ask her why
>she gives me some stupid excuse that logically does not line up with the reason
absolute retard, both of us, me for believing anything would change and her for brushing off my threat in an already heavily understaffed job

No. 2118130

>>2118126
They dont care, they think you're stupid and expect you to go along with whatever they throw. They will test the waters to see if you're compliant at whatever they throw at you. Quitting without two weeks notice is the best revenge you can do to a boss that shitty but it isnt resume viable unfortunately.

No. 2118155

>>2118126
Go over her head and go talk to her boss

No. 2121370

Nonnies I got a temporary factory job while waiting for my degree-based job to give me a role and I am dreading it.
They're making me do 4+ hours worth of unpaid introduction tests/videos already. And I can't skip the videos because they get tracked and marked towards the completion %. Thank god it's not long-term.
Just hope I will be allowed to daydream while doing something repetitive.

No. 2121437

My life is fucking over. I just lost the biggest Professional opportunity.
Its fucking over.
Fuck my life.

Fuck all of this. I must be the dumbest creature that ever walked on this Earth.
Its over.

No. 2121453

>>2121437
if it makes you feel better my husband once lost a well paying remote job by accidentally sending the manager a series of nazi pony memes. he was only hired for a week. he found a better job two weeks later

No. 2121901

>>2112452
Don't do it anon, HR is there to protect people like your manager and the company's image. HR is never your friend

No. 2122360

I really want to quit my current job because of the shitty micromanaging that they're doing and I did an interview for another company today and I think it went pretty well. They told me they'll update me in about 2 weeks (it's too goddamn long I really want to quit tomorrow) and I saw they put the job vacancy again up on LinkedIn, posted 6 hours ago. Does this mean I'm already off the table?

No. 2122465

>fix tool a
>company has been struggling with tool a for years until i came along
>big celebration
>coworker that hates me seething HARD as hell
>fast forward a few months
>seething coworker breaking tool a
>it triggers based on x, they're doing x outside of the context of when x needs to happen
>obviously, this is a user-based issue, completely outside my realm of control (i can't fix it in the same way you can't fix a retard typing their email in the password box despite the prompt that says 'your email can't go in this box')
>but anyway
>"ERRMMMMM IT'S NOT WORKING NONA? WE DON'T NEED THIS TO HAPPEN. THIS ISN'T HELPING. LET'S STOP USING TOOL A, I'LL FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT (i couldn't figure anything out in the five years before you came but ermmm wink wink it'll happen now)"

i don't think i'm making up shit but i do feel she's trying to sabotage me right now. especially since my boss is out of office, she's somehow the ONLY PERSON to have this specific issue, and i've caught the coof so i can't even be there physically. old women can be so shitty and retarded sometimes. not even sure how i could explain this to my boss though as – god bless her – she's something of a wimp when it comes to this one specific broad.

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>>2121437
What happened?

No. 2123533

I'm in a position where I can't actually advance within where I work but there's opportunity for networking and experience but my boss is NOT here for it. He only cares if I make him look good and fix his mistakes. I know the actually intelligent workers KNOW I'm good at what I do, care about the work, and am happy to do it and go the extra mile, and I know he is too solely because I distract from the incompetency that comes with not being able to keep up with the industry, something everyone can see. I feel like it's not worth trying as hard as I do and caring as much as I do about the work, because when I do try or speak up and attempt to help fix an issue that needs fixing I look like i'm ~undermining~ his authority, or I'm making him look better than he deserves. I wish someone would speak up for me, or just acknowledge my abilities are beyond the position I'm in. I know inside I am overqualified for this but I need it to get somewhere else, eventually.

No. 2125015

I've been in a daze ever since I got home. It's like I don't particularly want to do much of anything. Hearing about all of the layoffs in our company, how our department is over budget on hours for a project, how I don't even know what project we'll work on next, and how my friend is struggling to find a new job despite having more experience than me is draining me. I wish I had the mental fortitude to apply to job listings, but I'm anxious of applying to new jobs and figuring out a new place. I know I'll eventually do it, but I'm stressed right now.

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>>2121370
First day is finished and it sucked. Was made to do work above my paygrade because they could see that I was not a retard. On top of that someone stole my work shoes while I was on a break.

No. 2125569

I always regret not going into nursing (It’s ESL hours but I’m in the US where it pays a lot in addition to being highly employable)
Am I looking through rose tinted glasses

No. 2126492

>>2118130
>>2118155
no point at this stage, i just quit and professionally went off on her about how breaking that agreement wasn’t right and all the other ways she’s a shit manager while empathizing with her about how hard her job can be at the same time. she made it all about herself, every bit of it and never even addressed what i said. hope she has a ton of fun losing 2 of the most competent people, because im gone, another coworker is leaving and hates the place now, and everyone else is retarded with limited availability

No. 2127190

>>2117451
I GOT THE INTERVIEW

No. 2127198

>>2125569
Late response, but I don't think so. And it also isn't too late to do it, either. I'm sure you're aware, nurses are needed badly. My mother was a nurse for 35 years and yes it can be taxing, but it's also incredibly rewarding. My father was a PCW for 30 years and even he, after so many years of residents passing away as they do, doesn't regret a thing. He got to spend their last days with those people and build special relationships with him and he gets to hold their memories with love and respect and that means a lot to him.

No. 2127203

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>>2127190
Congrats and good luck on the interview!

No. 2127223

>>2127203
ty nonny! ♥

No. 2127302

I'm about an inch away from quiting my office job and running back to retail. I've been doing the jobs of like three other people at least ever since my manager went on maternity leave last month, instead of the usual doing the work of two people and its starting to affect me physically. I can't even take my time off until she comes back in the office and i think she's not coming back until October or November. Honestly when i take my two weeks i might not come back. I have to focus on getting more certifications so i can put my degree to use finally..

No. 2127308

While still in university during the pandemic I already realized that I wouldn't want to work as what I studied. My new wish was to become a flight attendant but because of covid everybody obviously was laid off plus there was no way my parents would forgive me for not finishing my degree.
Now I've been working for a year and I really hate it. To make things worse, I constantly see adds from e.g. Emirates that they're hiring. And to top if all of, I now live only 5 minutes from the airport, so I'm constantly reminded about it. But I'm no longer that young, and my job pays really well, I have many vacation days, I couldn't afford my apartment if I became a student again, and of course there's still my parents whom I don't want to disappoint by quitting…

No. 2128387

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There's a moid at work that's always so rude and talks to me like I'm dumb. I bet he's a hamplanet that looks like picrel because he can barely hold his breath when talking. Gross.

No. 2128405

>>2128392
Spoilering something like this? Seriously? You must want shit like "tw // colors" and "tw // movement" on posts too. Go back to Tumblr or just go offline because you're too sensitive to handle the internet.

No. 2128473

>>2127308
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you don't study to become a flight attendant but only follow a training that's only takes a few weeks to a few months? Surely if your current job pays that well you can save enough money to bridge a few months while you're in training? Personally I'd think twice about giving up a well paying job in this economy but if it's making you miserable it's not worth it. What your parents think doesn't matter, they're not the ones suffering through 40 hours of your life each week.

No. 2128492

I hate when people ask me where I work, I’d rather say I’m unemployed than tell them I work at a mall kiosk.

No. 2128627

>>2128492
Make something up. Tell them you are a "Client Relations Executive" at a "a leading retail complex".

No. 2129085

>>2125466

Biggest L is when you accidentally reveal you have more than one brain cell because you will immediately be exploited for it (speaking from current experience, fml).

No. 2129911

I'm starting my first office job on Monday after working as management in food service and retail for almost a decade. At first I was excited about the change, but now I'm worried about how I'm going to adjust to less physically demanding work and office politics/behavior. It's also not helping my nerves that I somehow lost my social security card so unless my dad can find my birth certificate I'm going to start my first day feeling like a dumbass presenting my receipt for the replacement SS card that I applied for last night.

No. 2130484

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This is more for fun than anything, but lately I've been coming up with various low-effort, ethically dubious ideas for scams "side hustles". Here's what I've thought up so far:
>content-farming
Specifically, those inexplicably popular Reddit AITA videos where a godawful TTS voice reads out fake ragebait posts, sometimes set over stock music or random footage. Absolutely zero craftsmanship involved. Adsense doesn't pay much, though.
>Start a youtube subliminals channel
As discussed in this thread here >>616008, some people apparently believe you can get rich, get thin, etc. by just listening to some music with whispery vocals laid underneath on repeat. Same issue as above with the adsense though, plus narrower appeal and more work involved.
>Selling "spells" to people on Etsy
Sounds ridiculous, but there are thousands of listings for these. Similar to above, in exchange for you doing absolutely nothing (save for maybe sending them a picture of a burnt candle or w/e), people will convince themselves they've changed into a succubus, made a pact with a demon, or whatever else.
And finally,
>run a catfish fetish twitter account
Yes, it's a real thing. Some moids get off to the idea of getting catfished (https://gizmodo.com/catfish-fetishists-the-men-who-get-off-on-getting-scam-1835001978). Though a bot could likely do it, even being in proximity to men like these must eat at the soul, so I'm not sure any amount of money could be worth it.

IRL I think I'd actually feel too bad about taking advantage of others and/or putting out low-quality work to keep up with it for very long. Has anyone else considered (or done) anything like this?
also, sorry if this is the wrong thread

No. 2130531

>>2130484
Just a few days ago I saw a reel of a guy explaining how he supposedly makes tons of money by making these reddit videos you're talking about, over a minecraft footage. (I'm sure he has other things though) I don't think you should feel too bad about that one. The spell one is a bit much though, people have no qualms about scamming kek. The thing I've considered and still think about is to sell printables/templates on Etsy because I would actually like doing it and I saw many people who aren't professional graphic designers be very successful (even making coloring books on the free version of canva kek) but I think it's too saturated now and a lot of them have customers because they already have a community on social media.

No. 2130547

Just finished a certification course (trade school - 8 months long) to help me start a career, but am now wanting to do an online bachelor's degree program while working full time so that I can do this other particular master's program at an in person school. How fucked am I for the next 4+ years? I'm 31 and I just want a job that won't pay me the bare minimum that they can get away with.

No. 2130729

I've been applying to a bunch of jobs. Most were the same/similar role and I would change my title to match the job listing. Example Customer Support Specialist to Customer Support representative or Customer Support Associate etc.
But Ive been wanting to move up in my role so I started applying to T2 roles, ones where it says technical support. I was wondering if I change the title of my role to match it, can they verify it when they do the employment verification? Will they actually ask if that the role I held or just confirm I worked there and for the time I did.

No. 2130859

>>2130547
Just do it nonna. Time is going to pass anyway, might as well accomplish something as it does.

No. 2131922

>>2129911
I don’t think that makes you look like an idiot. It’s probably not the first time they’ve encountered that. I think you’d only look like an idiot if you did nothing about the problem and showed up completely empty handed

No. 2132544

What are some career paths available to people without a bachelors? Besides retail

No. 2132570

>>2132544
Trades, being a cop (in the US), being a sawmill worker, cleaning, you can be a paralegal if you complete a course for it, radiology techs. Stuff like that.

No. 2132959

>Watching procedural
>Hmm, I have a pretty strong stomach, I bet I could be a medical examiner/coroner, there's probably not a surplus of people who want to cut up bodies
>Look up requirements
>You need a full-ass MD to be a coroner

No. 2132976

>>2132570
What type of trade is friendly to women? I only see construction and plumbing turn up

No. 2132986

>>2132976
Nail tech
Hair stylist
CNA
Office end of blue collar jobs (some of them ask for a bachelor's but some only need you to be able to use a computer)
Medical billing and coding (i believe you only need a certificate for this as well)
Daycare worker (some of them will need certification but they usually don't ask for a bachelor's degree)

No. 2132990

>>2132986
>>2132976
Adding on, you can be a notary, do transcription jobs or underwriting (again, no degree but probably certifications/training needed)

No. 2133022

>>2132986
>CNA
Whats this?

No. 2133039

I want to get some kind of medical certificate. I have no desire to go back to school long term, but I’m too damn old to be working retail mall jobs. It doesn’t matter if I got paid less or the same, I’d rather say I’m a cna/dental assistant/emt etc than to say that I work at a mall kiosk. Idk that probably sounds arrogant but it’s my truth kek

No. 2133040

>>2133022
Certified nursing assistant

No. 2133051

market oversaturation, unemployment, revolving door employment and diversity quotas would not be a problem if immigration and brain drain did not fuck everything up. now we get corrupted education and health system, with a bunch of useless degree mill sites and university shills on the side. i fucking hate current society. there is no trust. they want you to have a minimum of 4 year degree to even work permanently in a non-ghetto restaurant. even if you have a bachelor's degree in fucking burger flipping you can only get into the nice restaurant if your parents are best friends with the restaurant owner. this is such bullshit. i have a decade of experience in restaurants and i know how to cook, but only fast food places hire, and even they only want teens or stoner retards and alcoholics that they know won't quit. fuck these fryer cook shitholes. i legit got co2 poisoning because our vents aren't big enough. nobody fucking appreciates anything, every place is full of immigrant cronies or nepo babies… i am only here because my country is getting fucked off, aging out, 0 earning potential or purchasing power. but yet i hear retards screech about too many births destroying the earth. faggot, if immigration was banned, we would not have these problems.

No. 2133065

>>2133051
yeah I agree lmao
also somehow immigrants who hardly speak English are getting important healthcare jobs. I was on the phone with my insurance provider and I had to repeatedly ask the woman on the other end to repeat herself. How does this even happen? Can’t you find an American born native, English speaking diversity hire if you need to meet a certain quota?

No. 2133071

>>2133065
> Can’t you find an American born native, English speaking diversity hire if you need to meet a certain quota?

You don't understand why white women shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of anything. They want you to speak SPANISH instead.(bait)

No. 2133081

>>2132959
nonners i have a bachelor's and am a deputy coroner where you basically take death calls and decide whether you need to go to the scene itself or have the body brought back for an autopsy. you do need an MD to be a medical examiner officially and unofficially to be a coroner (you get elected but they are pretty much all MDs) but pathologist assistants (at my office they do the cutting, the doctor dissects organs for sampling) do not need to be MDs. it varies by county. being in the coroner's system is awesome and i love my job. it's very dirty work some days though.

No. 2133088

>>2133071
I’m not saying white women have to do it, but damn at least hire a black or American born and raised Hispanic lmao

No. 2133096

>>2133065
the amount of desk job type healthcare workers that are obviously not fluent in english is so jarring to me. it's not even thick accents, it's the having to repeat my questions 3-4 times when i spoke clearly and slow enough the first time that annoys me. and they never spell out names via spelling alphabet which makes phone calls so much simpler.

No. 2133098

>>2133081
>>2132959
samefag but also coroners don't really do shit but manage the coroner's office btw. it's usually a forensic pathologist that does the autopsy along with a pathologist assistant. you can always call up offices in your area and ask if they're hiring or if you can view an autopsy.

No. 2133110

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I got rejected from a job I kinda really wanted. What gives? I got along with all the interviewers fine, I was acting confident and optimistic, was told I was a “fresh face”, I’ve done my research on the company and they seemed impressed with my knowledge along with my resume, was told I was one of the top 3-4 candidates whom are potential for employment. So, I’m not sure what went wrong?

It should be noted that I was originally contacted by a male attorney/HR for the past few days and was promised he would he would contact me sometime this week but today, I got a the letter from a female attorney who I also interviewed with.

No. 2133113

What do you nonnas think of chemical engineering as a career

No. 2133114

>>2133110
It doesn’t necessarily mean you did anything wrong, it’s just a tough job market right now and tons of people are competing for every position.

No. 2133120

>>2133110
Might've just been too many other people competing for the same position.

No. 2133125

>>2133065
>>2133096
that's great. forgive me, while i'm dying, i must be polite. lest i offend the ESLcel caller.

No. 2133132

>>2133071
i am a white woman and i agree. managing money and keeping it is much harder than it seems, and us women get scared when it comes to corruption. there is a lot of corruption though. yet i get called a schizo for pointing such out. advocating for and making space and advancing someone who knows less and performs worse, out of pity, and to seem holier than thou, is at the cost of others, but the woman in charge subconsciously thinks she is a good mother. having migrantcel coworkers who are always excused from fuckups is demoralizing at best and rage fuel at worst.

No. 2133171

Every day applying to jobs feels like throwing a message in a bottle into the ocean.

No. 2133177

>>2133171
What roles are you looking for nona

No. 2133243

>>2133114
>>2133120
Hopefully that’s the case, I just hate it when potential employers butter you up about getting hired then decide to “go with someone else”. I was looking forward to working in the swanky building the company was located too.

No. 2134965

how do you stay motivated at work? I'm a fresh grad and I think I'm more depressed than I thought I was kek. Fighting the urge to not throw everything away

No. 2134967

>>2134965
Pills.

No. 2134971

>>2133065
It's always the shittest employees getting hired in all fields, at times it almost feels like you have to pretend to be worse than you actually are to get a good job

Restaurant industry is filled with apathetic bitchy crackheads, they'll fire happy but awkward people who can do their job but the nasty server who never washes her hands, ignores customers, etc somehow always has a job

Retail is all retarded old people who refuse to update their skills, so the younger employees not only end up picking up the slack but essentially play nursing home teacher, and despite all that it's young people that get told they're not working hard

Healthcare is filled with incompetent idiots. Lower end medical staff like CNAs are all ghetto, incompetent old people, etc and there are absolutely great candidates they just can't stop firing them kek

Blue collar is all retarded felon moids too

These places absolutely have a better choice of candidates, why do they have the worst ones? Who knows. I myself even found it easier to keep a job if I was lazier, showed up late, etc where as when I was pristine, always early, polite, willing to work as hard as I need, etc that was when I was being denied left and right or fired every week

No. 2134987

talked to a recruiter today in a screening interview this morning and got told my cv is going to be passed on along with some notes… that's good, isn't it? i've never had an interview like that before so i'm not sure how to take it. it's a job i'd really like though, at least.

No. 2135050

i just want a student job that's not in fucking fast food but i'm not having any luck searching for a new one… this fast food job is getting worse and worse because every good coworker is quitting and we recently got a new boss who's powertripping and micromanaging everything. it gets so busy and i feel so bad after three shifts in a row, it's making it hard to concentrate on my studying.

No. 2136441

>>2134971
because the better choice of candidates are usually too smart, opinionated, or driven to keep subjecting them to the crap that comes with those jobs. i've had great managers but they were almost always ones who shortly left. the good ones never stay because they know they're better than forever getting payed $7/hr to be yelled at by dickheads because of a missing ketchup packet

No. 2136477

>>2135050
by student do you mean highschool or college? if it’s college, check with research labs on your campus to see if they need any assistants. not sure what field you’re going into, but it’s doesn’t really matter, as it looks nice on any resume. in my experience they pay decently well, work around your schedule quite nicely (are very forgiving with things like “I need more time to study, I have an exam coming up,” etc.), and the work is often tedious little tasks that require next to no brainfuel. another plus is that you’ll likely be working with other students and it’s a great way to make friends and connections.

No. 2136609

I applied to a job last week and saw the internal recruiter looked at my linkedin. I didn't get an email or phone call after. What was the point of doing it off anon? Surely he knew it would notify me and get my hopes up. Recruiters are some of the scummiest people around I swear

It's worse because it's one of those jobs that doesn't track application statuses. You send it off into the void and they either respond or don't. There's no form rejection message

No. 2136633

What is a good stable job where I don't need long-ass training and I won't have responsibilities but it's not callcenter work?

No. 2136643

>>2135050
petsitting, babysitting, selling things online, tutoring, etc.

No. 2145029

i know i need to study and nab a few certs but i have no energy lol. but i didn’t get a cs degree to do spreadsheets for the rest of my life

No. 2145047

fumbled an interview today. the hiring manager was asking a series of problem solving questions and i stuttered like a retard trying to answer those. it's really the worst feeling ever when you know you could've done better but somehow you didn't try hard enough. or maybe i'm just too stupid for this. i hate myself.

No. 2145357

I have so much to think about because the museum I interned at is offering contract work, but my (full-time health insurance) job at a school is starting this week. I guess I can ask the museum employee about the length of time/hours for what they need to see how I could navigate this? Anyone else here do contract work instead of full time?

No. 2146963

So nonnies I've mostly worked for the family business for the biggest part of my life as I am kinda tied to it legally but mostly because I was an extremely socially anxious bordeline agoraphobic retard that stressed constantly by anything and I had nothing better going on for myself. Thankfully I appear mostly normie nowadays.

Now my issue is that my father(who "runs" the bussiness) is (probably) a narc who is prone not to listen to advice and complains constantly about problems instead of fixing them. Everyone is complaining about him but instead of realising he does something wrong he puts the blame on other people and situations instead of improving the things he has control over. I'm honestly afraid that at this stage the business is going to fall apart and even then he is going to blame everyone but himself. The fact that most of my immediate family is part of the business is terrible as my uncle is genuinely an asshole and my grandpa still supports him. My mom and I also get treated like shit whenever he wants to blow off some steam which is every day almost.

I've already sent some CVs to other jobs but I'm still scared it will be worse as the conditions in my country's job market suck. I will also have my father telling me to go kms for "leaving him" but idc it's too emotionally draining. I have some experience over the years but unfortunately I only have a high school degree and all my attempts to study something else ended in me not completing my studies because I forced myself to do something I didn't actually like. However I have found nothing I genuinely like and would like to study to have better job prospects. It's not like I won't be able to find something but I'm afraid I will be mistreated(as if I'm not mistreated already kek)

I guess I just wanted to vent nonnies…Things could be so much better for all of us but my father finds it easier to drown himself in work to avoid his problems…I'll just try to intensify my efforts from next week

No. 2149085

Sending work emails to clients and colleagues from home on my day off while 2 beers deep because I like to live dangerously I guess. I'm just stressed. New job, my bosses were overwhelmed when I got here, took me on fast and threw a lot at me.

I'm a boss too and my team is not trained at all. I am having to figure out who just doesn't know stuff because they were never shown how to do it but they could if they had the knowledge, and who are the people who would not be able or willing to do the tasks even if they were shown. They've just been doing a halfass job up to now and anything "new" (that is actually their job) is perceived as "extra work" because no one showed them before. lmao.

If any of you have experienced coming on as a boss when there was/is clearly bad management, please advise. My current direct manager is an everybody's friend type and constantly undermines me. They go cry to him if I enforce anything and he's like "I'll talk to her, let me fight that battle for you, don't stress" blah blah blah – he's got salesman brain and just lies, it pisses me off. I have overheard him saying that and also seen him reply directly to associates emails (I'm not cc'd, it's just that the email security here is as sloppy as their work.) I'm seriously considering going over his head but not sure how that would go. I just feel like he's lying in tiny ways all the time and he redirects conversations if you try to dig into something.

No. 2149091

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sooo am i supposed to let senior coworkers bust my ass and be rude to me? can’t tell if i made the wrong move by standing up for myself or not. like was i just supposed to take it?

>what happened


basically got told x task was optional by both my boss and a coworker during my downtime at a big convention, my coworker starts training me on x task while being extremely rude and calling me an idiot in all but words, i tell her i appreciate her guidance in x but i am no longer interested in it, she gets pissed off and calls my boss to tell her i’m being “difficult” and “not listening to her” — it was a whole thing. i didn’t get in trouble at all though (my boss actually spent a long time apologizing to me for this coworker) but things have been tense and annoying with her ever since.

No. 2149096

>>2049059
>How did it go?
it didn’t go well. i’m tech and a social autist so i basically did nothing there and i’m pretty sure my coworkers thought i was being lazy when in fact i was just under-scheduled and out of my element. it’s like i did stuff but i wasn’t at all needed, they definitely had it handled (to the point that the usual answer people had for me when i asked if they needed a hand was, “no”)

No. 2149102

>>2149091
I'm replying because I really like the kitten portrait. But actually if your boss is on your side you should take that at face value. You were right to affirm your decision. If anything based off more supervisor positions I've held I would keep an eye on your coworker for the fact that she either didn't seem to believe you or felt she knew better than the manager which led to her needless complaint. Senior coworkers should be your mentors, not your managers. After you said you were no longer interested in it and you had the permission to do so, everything after that was inappropriate actions by your coworker.

No. 2149126

Are people always worried about getting fired? Am I supposed to be worried about it all the time like I am? I feel like it's one blunder and I'm done and it has nothing to do with the work environment

No. 2149221

>>2149126
i live in an at will state and i feel the exact same way. i think it's a very real fear in my case, don't know if you're in a similar situation.

>>2149102
thanks.

No. 2150126

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The unforseen circumstances being: them realising they can put up 2 part time vacancies for the role instead.
So rotten.

No. 2155634

My boss is taking his future retirement as an excuse to do literally nothing. He was supposed to deliver something to someone and he set it on my desk. I made the stupid choice of asking him what it was there for, and he took that for a volunteer of me delivering it. Great, the one thing I wanted. More work. Love that. Like I’m not already doing literally everything.

And the other staff is literally retarded. When we set up a new desk for someone, we have training and we have a little written pamphlet for them. But they don’t pay attention during the training and don’t read the pamphlet. So they call me for stuff that’s literally on the first page of the pamphlet.

We have an excel sheet of all our deployments. My boss asks me all day abt info from the excel sheet. I always say “it’s on the excel sheet”. He tells me today “it’s great that you remember this stuff.” I don’t. I think it’s time for a new job

No. 2155652

>>2149126
I dont care anymore to be honest, but the job market is shit. The U.S is basically an at will country. I know a few states arent, but it's extremely few and far between. The same way you can sue for retaliation, you have to be prove it first. It's exhausting here

No. 2155812

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okay nonnas.. here is my predicament.
i recently graduated with a degree in social studies secondary educ and i currently work as a special education aide in an elementary school. i feel somewhat unfulfilled though.. i would kind of love to get a job teaching world history or something like that but another part of me wants to escape into a more introvert friendly job. i already student taught so i am aware that i'm relatively good at teaching and students like my personality. but my dream job is more along the lines of archival work or being a librarian. i also have thoughts of being a mortician or do some kind of cyber work. i just am not sure how to go about thinking about what is right for me. i would like to one day at least live outside of the us for a little bit, but i am unsure that my career path as an american teacher would be much help there. i kind of would love to just be a librarian or archivist and get my masters degree in one of those… but i'm just not too sure about the job prospects. also, teaching in the us is starting to frighten me due to the political state of education atm…. i just feel lost and i need guidance i suppose

No. 2155883

>>2155634
Agreed. Also tell them to both fuck off as you're busy doing work.

No. 2155977

>>2150126
Absolutely hate this shit, hope the people who do it get hemorrhoids

No. 2156228

>>2155812
How about online tutoring? You get to teach a few kids for a set period of time, you don't need to socialize with other teachers, and you get to work from home, plus it can fit in around your normal work hours.

No. 2156246

I have been working for the same business all my life and didn't have to interview so I have a few stupid questions regarding job applications. When a job offer asks to send in a resume, you still have to send in a motivation letter, right ? And do I have to send the letter as a separate document or write it in the body of the email ?

I made my resume header purple because I figured that red was too much and blue was not enough, but I'm considering making it some shade of orange so it's a bit more eye-catching, but I'm worried that might make it irritating to the eye instead.

No. 2156249

>>2156246


I send in my motivation letter and resume separately. Don't make your motivation letter too long though, I always keep mine to the point, about one page, a little less even.

No. 2156279

>>2155812
What >>2156228 suggested is nice. Lots of people from my country teach English to students from Asian countries and they like it. Of course, I don't think any native is necessarily good at teaching their own language so there is that.
Outside of this you can work in social services doing data retrieval, admin and background checks but that's more along the lines of office work.

No. 2156288

>>2156246
never put color on a resume nonnie. black and white always.

No. 2156500

>>2156246
>even if the job does not specifically ask for one, send in motivation/cover letter to be safe
>send it separately. i have done a small blurb summarizing/getting to the point quickly in the email though where it's like a shortened cover letter on top of that, it seems to work
>only use black/white and simple, consistent formatting for cover letter and resume, don't do anything to attempt to be eye catching other than it fitting the professional looking standard

No. 2156989

>>2156288
I guess it's different depending on the country because I remember having a class in college on how to make resumes and cover letters, and the "perfect" examples always had one bit of color in it in a way that makes the structure clearer, most templates I find also do this

>>2156500
I'll do that, thanks nona

No. 2157074

>>2156989
i was taught that years ago too, but in college/professional settings i was told not to

No. 2157516

After months of complaining in this thread about the process and having to wait for any news, I finally got an unconditional offer for my dream job!
Still have to be a wagie in a place I despise for a month or 2 though.

No. 2157555

>>2156500
So, before my last job, I would have agreed with this. But I am dealing with the (stupid) problem of being overqualified for a lot of the positions I am applying for. (I need the money while I wait for my dissertation defense, and the job market in my field is pretty dead at the moment.) I made a new CV in Canva and it immediately got me to the second stage of interviews for a nicely paid position. When I say "immediately," I mean the assistant called me on a Saturday after I submitted my application on Friday. It's clear that CV helped me stand out. I made it very professional-looking, though, and thought a lot about how to use color strategically.

The CEO then called me and said it was wonderful meeting me and he wished he had a better position to offer, but I'm far too overqualified for the position he is filling. Sad only because I need the money and cheaper insurance from a job asap.

So, anyone have tips for overqualified applicants? I don't want to lie on my CV. I've already cut it down to one page and I moved all my publications and talks and teaching experience to another site (gave a link to that site). I have done everything differently to pitch myself to a non-academic employer and I also am not applying for positions where the employer obviously wants a person who will stay for 10 years. I'm just a bit frustrated. I had a great feeling about the interviews with that company (I could tell the CEO was impressed with me and liked me) but in the end, I got rejected for the exact same reason as before.

I wish employers understood that completing a PhD in any field means you are looking at someone with extensive research experience, who can solve problems on their own and also complete a lot of work quickly. I'm continuing to apply in my field too but it's the "summer abyss" where nothing is really even advertised right now. October will begin the next wave of stuff in my field, but I need a job before then to apply for permanent residency here.

No. 2158410

why can I find jack shit useful information about these stupid Indeed skill quizzes online? They give time limits but wtf can I not find how many questions or what said questions might even look like? Feels like kind of a bad idea to take one of these things I apparently can't retake for the next 6 months knowing basically nothing about said quiz and it being on a timer. Like fuck, seriously no one's nice enough to post the answers on quizlet? I saw a lot of people joke about how they never take these but I don't think my resume is good enough to ignore them

No. 2158487

>>2157516
Congrats nonnie! I’m sure those 2 months will go by faster than you think

No. 2160400

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Today the stupidest thing happened to me. I was having a meeting with some of my managers. At some point one of them, (a black guy ) mentioned going to visit a monkey farm with his family. My retarded ass thought it would be funny to make the this joke: « Haha you will be able to say hello to your higher ups » by that I meant his bosses. 45 min later I’m pull out for an investigation because I made «  a racist comment toward a colleague ». I was so chocked that I just spent 1h crying in the meeting room. I’m so fucking sick of this woke shit. I would absolutely never say anything racist to a coworker.

No. 2160823

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I'm sorry for a long post but I have nobody to talk to
I want to fire myself so bad but I don't have the guts. I've been working at this company for 3 years and I'm on permanent contract. I'm a diagnosed autist and I know that some people don't like me because of my lack of social skills and it's ok, I don't blame them. My problem are the double standards and the fact that I'm not being treated as well as my other two female coworkers who are on friendly basis with our shift leader, or my male coworkers who bring her chocolates and shit and she kinda brushes off their mistakes. I just can't be like… this. I just want to work. I don't talk during work. I sometimes have to do two things at once, run from one place to another, meanwhile my two coworkers only have one thing each and they just lie on their desks and chat with each other for 40 minutes… And when I try to bring this up (and only because I was confronted by my team leader) I'm not taken seriously. I mean you can look at numbers and see who does more… I'm so tired. I'm so bad at talking and explaining myself. I had one male coworker who was interested in me romantically and we started seeing each other. I tried to keep it private at work. But people found out anyway and I felt like since then, the two female coworkers from my shift totally rejected me.
One week ago I got a terrible bacterial infection, with a 40 degree fever, and I got prescribed antibiotics by my doctor. I couldn’t work, I texted my team leader and said I'm sorry. I thought it wouldn't be a problem since that was literally my second sick leave in the span of 10 months (my immune system is so bad I catch colds basically every 2 months but I still come to work sick, unless it's really bad, with high fever, like it was last week). Meanwhile my team leader responded with
>We are really busy at work right now. I really hope your absence isn't caused by my boyfriend's name vacation
I couldn’t believe this. Yes it just so happened my boyfriend was on vacation, but that assumption was so rude, and I literally saw my boyfriend only once when he did my groceries because I was too weak to get out of bed (we don't live together yet). To prove I'm being truthful, I sent her a note from my doctor and a photo of my antibiotics (I was not obligated to do so, mind you, I live in Netherlands where you can just call in sick without providing any further medical information and your employer has no right to ask you for it). No response. Today I came back to work and I confronted my team leader about it. She said she had the right to suspect that, and that my other two female coworkers were also complaining to her about the "strange coincidence" regarding my absence and my boyfriend's vacation. She said that even our manager found it suspicious and wanted to know what's up.
The manager, mind you, who slept with his young employee, got her pregnant, and got her a better job to make her comfortable during her pregnancy, and wasn't even degraded in any way because of that "romance". I mean, people like this want to tell me my behavior was "suspicious"? Especially when I provided proof from my doctor that I was actually sick and put on antibiotics?
I felt kinda mind broken during that conversation and I just said it's not fair, and I just randomly brought a couple of examples of me working hard when others talk, and she said something like "I heard a completely different story from the floor". Basically everything I said was turned against me. So why is nobody confronting me when I'm at work, and my coworkers only talk behind my back to our team leader when I'm sick at home? I could've said to her how one of my coworkers is literally always late to work, but nobody reprimends her and it's laughed off as a joke. I could've said many other things. But for some reason nobody would ever take my words into consideration. My boyfriend got pissed off when he found out about that conversation. One month ago he told our team leader that he plans on changing jobs in January, and he told her that precisely to give her time to find and prepare someone else for his place, since it takes time to teach someone new. Our team leader really doesn't want him to leave. I heard only good things about him even way before we started dating, he's like the backbone of our department, and it will be hard to find someone to replace him. My bf was also offered to become the new shift leader. But he refused, since he's really critical towards the overall policy of our company and he doesn't like the way people are being treated here, thus the desire to change companies (he's not the only one, more and more older employees leave this company). And I think that it's another reason for this strange tension in our team, and it has to backfire on me for some reason. God if I only wasn't so afraid to change jobs…

Anyway, the team leader said that if I want we can all have a conversation (her, me, our two female coworkers and my boyfriend) to make some things clear. My bf said that he will only agree if the manager will be also present there, since my bf has lots of criticism towards our shift leader, team leader and overall policy, and he wants the manager to hear it, he also thinks that our coworkers won't be so aggressive in the presence of the manager. I'm kinda worried it can backfire on me and they can for example move me to another department, and changing places now would be too stressful for me. I don't know what to do. I feel like our TL and TC will side with our female coworkers, and me and my bf will be alone, and it will backfire against me the most, since my bf wants to change jobs anyway, and he's actually valued. What would you do in my place?

No. 2162624

>>2160823
You're quite literally being bullied at your workplace, and I'm so sorry you're being singled out due to not being as social as everyone else.
> I'm kinda worried it can backfire on me and they can for example move me to another department, and changing places now would be too stressful for me.
But do you really want to work with people who don't respect you and think they can step all over you? I'd suggest getting a new job since the place sounds miserable, especially with your boyfriend going away, but I know it's easier said than done.
I personally would have the meeting and then list my issues with them (basically everything you wrote down), all the while actively looking for a new place to work at because there is a good reason why people are leaving. I'm sure they won't be as flippant about it when there are 2 people complaining. Once all the hardworking employees leave they'll understand. Or they will hire someone else to fill your role and the cycle will continue, who knows.

No. 2171150

Do any of you work for Telus International? As a rater, is opting in in for adult/sensitive content a bad idea?

No. 2171174

>>2160400
Oh my god nona.

No. 2171448

Any current or former NEETs here? What do you plan do to/ended up doing with your life?

No. 2171455

>>2171448
Current NEET here. My plan has always involved art in some way, my dream job is to work with storyboards. I gave up art as an interest because burn out got the better of me. If I'm being realistic I would like to go back to school, I like history and I think being a teacher could be an option. In the mean time I would have to get a wagie job to get my footing. It feels too late to go back to school being in my early 20s, I dropped out when I was 16 so I have a lot to catch up on.

No. 2171472

>>2171448
I wanted to grow up and be an illustrator, it did not work out haha.
Right now I'm taking care of my grandmother who has Alzheimers, honestly don't know what I can do career wise. Probably kill myself after my parents die tbh.

No. 2171516

>>2171448
Went to the college, determined to be a mundane accountant, there’s also data analytics duo degrees program I’m hoping to transfer and start to work in airport office for cheap aviatickets for my family or into construction companies for housing fee discount in some nice disctricts. But it’s all dreams, I fear I could not handle academically I’m a slow thinker and fail at managing to network with smart and/or connected people. I’m scared for my life but it’s way more refreshing and challenging after my anxiety neetdom era. I can’t lose any more years.

No. 2171549

>>2171516
> I’m scared for my life but it’s way more refreshing and challenging after my anxiety neetdom era. I can’t lose any more years.
My feelings exactly. Rooting for both of nonnie. The time will pass either way.

No. 2171554

>>2171448
Was a hikkineet on and off (mostly on) for 5 years, now pursuing a research career in something I'm passionate about in my late 20s. Currently taking classes to qualify to apply for masters programs in my desired field. I have no background experience in my desired field and my undergrad degree is basically useless in this pursuit but because it's something I genuinely want for the first time in my life I'm working harder than I've ever worked before. Doing both physically intensive part time work and classes. I feel alive for the first time even if I'm constantly scared.

No. 2171719

>>2171448
Went back to uni for a major I felt lukewarm about and now I have an okay office job that's chill and doesn't make me miserable. I still don't know what I'd actually love to do (maybe it doesn't exist) so this is the best I can do I guess. If anything I'm just glad I got independent before being reliant got me in real trouble.

No. 2171940

It's crazy how far being likeable will get you careerwise. I work in a place where people like me more than they did at my previous job (because the people there were miserable cows and everyone hated each other) and it has given me a surprisingly large amount of opportunities.

No. 2172301

After applying for a call center job ridiculously close to my house an doing 40 hour training, I'm almost hired! I got my training money and I have some paperwork to give but aside from that IT'S ALMOST DONE.
It's super close, the co-workers are friendly(who are mostly moids who talk shit about customers but are helpful to each other and me),the pay is good and they all say I'm actually pretty good at it! The drawback is that I have to be really careful not to make a mistake and that it's shift work which means that I'll have to work night shifts sometimes but I believe that I'll make it work since I live close by anyway.

FINALLY after years of working for the shitty family business and my father who can't manage shit and treated me like crap, it's kinda like I manifested this job. I'd never expect my anxious ass would get over it to the point I'd have to talk to people all day constantly. It's a bit tiring sure, but I feel more appreciated already and I hope I will make decent money.

WISH ME LUCK NONNIES!

No. 2172324

>>2172301
>call center
>friendly
>not getting treated like crap
The hell? What kind of call center job is that? Most call center jobs here are absolute shit where you barely get any breaks and are a slave to people screaming at you all day long. I worked one briefly remotely. Thought it would be better since it was at least remote but it still sucked ass and I nope'd out of there after just a month.

No. 2172415

I just got a job working as a cashier for a small family owned restaurant. Today was my first day training and it was okay. It’s not in the ghetto and the people are nice, only sometimes I feel like an autistic retard. I’m already socially inept as hell, but I hope that no one catches onto that. Fake it till I make it. I feel double retarded because it’s hard for me to understand the owner who has an accent. Does anyone have any tips for not fucking up? It’s a minimum wage job but the hours are good and they’re closed on Sundays too, which works perfectly for me since I’m going to college part time too.

No. 2172420

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>boss asks me to type up all my duties and responsibilities
>also asks the same thing of everyone else (supposedly)
>big folder on sharepoint where we upload what we’ve documented into folders named after us, only myself and two others out of a team of ten have uploaded stuff…and i have WAY more stuff uploaded
>boss has reassured me multiple times that i’m totally not getting fired but she also asked me for a status update
>everything “due” december 27th
i can’t tell if it’s all a big ruse to ensure i tamely and accurately write stuff down for the next person to take this position or what but i’m anxious as hell. should note we’re (or i’m) doing this solely for the sake of having actual documentation supposedly

No. 2172435

There was an anon in the crystal cafe bunker thread that suggested TELUS International to another anon and I decided to try it out and passed the exams, so thank you to that anon! I have been putting out hundreds of applications and nothing has worked out for me. So I'm grateful that I can do this at least in the meantime. I'm also not a good exam taker in general so I'm really happy and relieved I was able to pass them. I was very close to having to apply to retail positions, something I haven't needed to do since I was 16 years old. And this is close to the same wage as most of them with the added benefit of being remote work.

No. 2172498

For those of you that are "spiritually" NEETs (as in naturally interested in weeb/nerd things alike and can't really be a normie) but currently working or trying to do something with your life, what keeps you going, what motivates you as an end goal? One of my main unresolved issues is that there is nothing "fun" or that interests me enouch even as a hobby or to consume worth working for. Is there merch or something you wanna buy? Is there a place, convention, shop, etc. worth visiting? Do you want to move somewhere and and why?I have no concept as to what people actually do with their lives or what is there do with one's life other than getting married or having a family. I can't adapt or be a normie no matter how hard i try, because it's not who i am and im tired of modeling and trying to turn myself into something im not and don't want to be. What do you work for and what type of work do you do?

No. 2172562

I got an interview but I lied on my resume…I can't use one of the necessary programs at all, but I'm good at the others.

No. 2172570

>>2172498
I will resist the urge to make fun of "weeb interests = spiritual neethood" and say that there is no reason you actually need a life purpose or end goal. If you're uninterested in the generic social script for life planning, most people's reason to work is "to pay bills and continue living" and their life purpose is, "to continue existing until I die" and that's not even a bad or depressing worldview, because you don't need a justification.

No. 2172577

>>2172498
I guess you've got someone who takes care of you because most people work to be able to afford a place and have food on the table before anything else.

No. 2172578

>>2172420
You are absolutely getting fired. I suggest you get ahead and start looking for a new job.

No. 2172610

>>2172578
i want to but i also don’t really want to lose this job (just get). what if i get hired somewhere else and i leave this company and it turns out i was never getting fired to start with? i’ve had other people tell me their companies had them do similar things and they’ve been there for years

No. 2172734

>>2172610
NTA but there's a due date, so as long as you have a job lined up for the due date you're OK. Even if you start preparing resumes for Christmas jobs to tide you over, or start a side hustle now to give yourself a bit of time to grow your business. It's good to have backup plans. And remember, businesses are not there to be nice to you. If it's cheaper to hire a kid with no experience, they'll get rid of you in a heartbeat.

No. 2172887

>>2172734
you're right. honestly my boss is always talking about the company having money issues anyway. i guess it's a sinking ship and the writing's on the wall, fuck

No. 2173204

>>2172435
I applied because of that anon, too. Any advice?

No. 2176044

After this apprenticeship I think my bosses will want to hire me for real. I need the money, but I really don't want this job anymore. I was so ready for the web dev company that wants to hire me after I finish their programming course. Oh well. I guess staying a few more months wouldn't hurt.

>>2172498
>I can't adapt or be a normie no matter how hard i try, because it's not who i am and im tired of modeling and trying to turn myself into something im not and don't want to be.
I don't get it. Are you saying that merely getting a job is too hard for you because it implies becoming a "normalfag"? Like you hate conforming to society so much that working is an attack on your special snowflake person? You sound terminally online tbh, and that's nothing to be proud of. You don't need to become a complete "normie" and forget your entire personality and interests to be able to function in society, AKA having a job like any adult would.

There's a lot of things I want to do, but aside from that, I need to pay my parents back for all they've done for me, and not being able to afford living on my own as an adult is worrying, so I gotta transition from being a parasite leeching off my parents to becoming a responsible adult that can cover her basic necessities on her own. So far, I'm earning minimum wage, and help pay the bills. I want a lot of things for myself, but being able to afford living alone is perhaps the first goal every adult should have, whether you're living with family or not.
You think all those people who have to keep working to survive wouldn't like to retire, relax and do something fun with their lives instead of working? The other anons are right. Seems like you haven't thought about your future seriously yet, or at least haven't realized that one day you could find yourself alone with no money and have to start planning what to do when your parents/grandparents/whoever's letting you live rent-free dies. Probably because your livelihood has never been in danger.
The moment you stop being a parasite and get a job, the moment you stop thinking about how boring your life is and start being shouted at by a boss, you'll turn into what you call a "normie" and forget about all those trivial worries. Trust me, it happened to me.

Doesn't mean I have stopped liking things, though. Being able to play video games on a PC I built and bought myself with my own salary, little by little over 10 months, feels amazing since I know I earned this. I wouldn't have been able to afford it had I not got this job and now that that's done, I can now focus on other things I wanted (while helping with the family expenses, of course). Also, being the best at work feels good, so it's not so bad. Not every job is for everyone, but I found one that I'm good at, where I only have to interact with a few people (and those people appreciate my geekiness) and that can be fun at times (it's more the bosses and coworkers that I have a problem with). When I come back from work I can relax in my room and play or draw on my new PC for two hours. One day I'll get a better job with better pay that could give me more freedom and time to do as I please, but I'm still young so I'm not in a rush. Things will happen when they need to happen.

And other than survival, I guess my end goal is to just enjoy life and do the things I've always wanted to do. Like I said, everybody would like to do that.

>>2172435
What's TELUS? I googled it but the descriptions are so confusing and vague. And I'm trying to visit their jobs section but my browser won't let me in because of a potential security risk.

No. 2176768

Has anyone else finally gotten an entry level job and then the company lays everyone off after. I feel like I can't recover especially financially from the lost bare minimum opportunity I was kissing the ground of every day like it was a miracle. I hate having to interview again too, driving hours spending $$$ to get negged by terrible paying employers that would hardly cover my rent, nightmare!
I was always told accounting was a great path with lots of opportunities but I feel like such an imposter. I'm trying not to be pessimistic and desperate, but I miss that stupid job. Was the first good job I had in my life.

No. 2176788

>>2176768
Yeah. I mean it wasn’t entry level for me, but for some of my younger coworkers it was their first job out of college and then we all got laid off because Tech is a chaotic shitshow. That was earlier this year and we’ve all got new jobs now although it took a while. Just hang in there, I know it sucks.

No. 2177550

>>1962941
I've been looking for a full-time job in this field for 5 months now and I couldn't get past the first round of interviews for the same retarded reasons:
>no customer deal
>interesting profile but it's not what we're looking for
>not enough experience ma'am

Really, I'm that close of giving up and my savings are getting low. How long can I keep this up?

No. 2177558

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>>2176768
I didn’t get layed off but I found the perfect job last year and fumbled it this year because of imposter syndrome. I felt like I didn’t deserve my position and everyone was better, smarter and more educated than me. I couldn’t play the corporate game. I would literally tear up if someone did small talk. Now I’m on unemployment instead of working at a nice skin care company and getting free face masks. Has anyone tarnished their entire life because they felt like they didn’t deserve anything good? How do you stop this shit

No. 2177576

>>2177558
You need therapy. This mindset won't go away on its own. Don't belittle yourself or your problems, that's a real issue that had a huge impact on your life, don't uwu teehee it away. Female socialization is a curse istg.
You haven't ruined your life beyond repair, btw. You need help, but there's nothing keeping you at rock bottom except yourself. See this as an opportunity to work on your issues and make progress on fixing whatever gave you that inferiority complex before you apply for a job.

No. 2178475

>>2177576
I just saw this and thank you so much for these kind words anon! I am really touched I honestly was expecting someone to call me a welfare queen lol. I am too scared to go back to work rn until i figure out why I get this way because I dont want to get overwhelmed and quit/get fired again. This is my first ever time on unemployment and my last job was kind enough to give it to me becuase even they sensed me becoming sad in the end. I am going to look into resources for therapy right now. I always thought I could handle my problems on my own but something about turning 30 and my period symptoms changing I think really did make me spiral.Thank you again. Have a lovely evening

No. 2179578

I just graduated from a paid STEM PhD like 3 weeks ago and now I'm job hunting because I don't want to stay in academia (I might consider lower level college teaching though but there's not that many colleges here and few openings) and am trying to look for jobs in industry/the corporate sphere but I feel like I'm 18yo again in terms of cluelessness. Like I had a period of a few years between my bachelors and grad school where I worked and I never got fired or anything so it's not like I'm scared of working but my degree didn't give me a really clear cut job path other than further academia and I have no clear idea of even what types of jobs would be more likely to hire me/what I should be applying for let alone the norms of applying, interviewing, etc. for these types of positions. Does it get easier at some point? Will I feel like less of an impostor after I've spent more time applying to jobs and interviewing? I know I'm a competent person and have plenty of hard skills but the way you 'sell' and advertise your skillset in academia is pretty different and trying to use all the corpo jargon feels so weird and fake, it's a really weird adjustment.

A lot of the other people I knew in grad school went into wetlab researcher roles in pharma and biotech but I didn't do wetlab research, I was doing human studies and some basic modeling (and, previously, animal studies but not for long) so I can't apply to those types of biotech jobs, which I think are an easier transition. Lol idk what I'm even asking I just feel like everyone who did a bachelors and then just worked in industry has all these ways they confidently hype up their skills even if their job was really basic and I don't have any of that. Doesn't help that there are so few job listings here that seem relevant to me (not in the US) so every time I submit a job app it feels like I'm wasting an opportunity if I unintentionally fuck up any part of my application, but I don't know wtf recruiters/hiring managers are actually looking for.

No. 2181865

Its worth looking at different companies even if you're in a trade and even if your current company offers "top rates" because I just got a $5/hr+ raise offer from another company

No. 2181901

Lost my job 4 months ago but managed to get settled in a new role and now next week from out of the blue we have a HR meeting about our roles, nice. love it.

No. 2182447

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I fucked up so hard at work, I was having trouble opening a safe and had asked three separate three separate times for help. Turns out, only me and one other person are allowed to know the combination and my manager pulled me aside about it, I could only confess to one of the instances because I was too scared to admit the other two. I wish I could hurry up and get fired, this mistake feels too big to come back from

No. 2182457

>>2181901
I feel you. I switched jobs after being poached by a recruiter. Three months later, there's a "mandatory company meeting," at which they announced >20% layoffs.
I was included in them. I feel so, so resentful towards the company that hired me.
Best of luck to you nona.

No. 2182469

>>2182447
Can't be that mega -cant get back from it- important or they would've communicated that with you much clearer.

No. 2182481

>>2182447
*three separate people three separate occasions kek
>>2182469
I do wish I had been told sooner, but maybe it should have been obvious, the safe is to hold keys to open cabinets that primarily only me and the other person get into.

No. 2187536

Every single time I have to work from the previous designer's files to update an existing asset, the task takes way longer because I have to fix her stupid fucking mistakes and redo some work from scratch. Girl never saved the correct files, outright deleted super important files without asking, and just generally made really ugly shit. I looked her up on Linkedin and she's now at an investment company starring in fucking tiktoks that get five views where corpos pretend to know what demure means.
If this incompetent dumbass can have had multiple corporate jobs without anyone realising she sucks, there's no reason anyone in the world should struggle to get a corpo job. You can literally just pretend you know what you're doing and corpos don't know any better.

No. 2187641

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work is making me feel suicidal even though it's a very cushy job and there's nothing i should be complaining about (fully remote software dev). but even so before my work day starts i feel dread and nausea coming up that doesn't leave until the day is over. i have no motivation to work on anything and every time i get a microsoft teams notif it's like a jumpscare. i hate talking to other people and being in meetings and implementing useless features that are only there to make the company owner richer and bring no real value to anyone. i hate having to fake that i actually enjoy spending my time for this work place when i have so many hobbies that are an actual improvement to my life. also even though it's supposed to be more likely, there are no autistic weirdos at this software company again and it's like i'm the only one that's not well-adjusted and sociable (and almost everyone is male). why the hell are these people even willing to meet up after work and do things together. you aren't even getting paid for this??

and i know i'm in an privileged position to even whine about a job like this and something must be wrong with me for not being able to suck it up because i know a ton of people would love to have a job like this. but if life is usually worse than this how are people still alive…..i don't get why people are even bringing more children into the world since that just makes them work even more. just for those children to have to work one too it's making me go insane.

i also think what's difficult for me is that i can't 'just work' a mental job for 8 hours straight just because i'm supposed to at this specific time. it's different from a retail job where even if i'm absentminded and cry in the bathroom i'm still there for 8 hours and just have to hide the sniffing or crying. but when i feel like shit (which i also often do even on non-work days) i can't focus on anything at all and then after multiple work hours i still can't get myself to even write a single function. it's not even difficult work and i've enjoyed programming since i was a child but i still can't get myself to do any of it and i just want to tell everyone to kill themselves or to isolate myself and then quit.

i know this sounds more like a rant but i'm genuinely at a loss what i should do. i thought once i graduate and leave my former (already pretty comfortable) software company i will not have this feeling anymore since it's fully remote but nothing has changed except it's full time work now. if i can't even mentally deal with one of the easiest jobs out there i don't know what to look for next. working part time would probably help since any sort of stress makes me break down already but you can only apply for part time after working at a company for about a year and i'm not even close to that. other companies have listings for developers but they're all full time. i've also been thinking about just doing the bare minimum until i get fired and then living off unemployment benefits but that brings its own set of issues. and idk if i should do that forever. third option is killing myself.

No. 2187649

>>2187641
yeah you have no grounds to whine. i wish i had your job, instead i have to go in to an office every day and bang my head against powerbi and run mind numbing sql queries. and while it sucks i don’t think i’m unlucky for having it. maybe you should work retail for a month, kid. you sound like a punk.

No. 2187671

>>2187641
I get it, I had a similar gig that was easy in theory but I had so many knowledge gaps that made me feel paralysed because I couldn't comprehend why my coworkers weren't struggling as I was, and it wasn't even something that requires real skill like programming. When your work is measured in how much you get done rather than hours spent, it can be mind-numbingly stressful. I started working part time and then only 4 hours a day and then it was okay and I got more done than in 8 hours of procrastinating but eventually half the company got laid off. Do the bare minimum, if someone talks to you say you have burnout. You sound depressed about the state of the working world and I am in the same boat. I don't understand how people work 8+ hours a day and sometimes even socialize with coworkers after that to only get a few hours per day to themselves or 2 vacations a year. I'd rather live frugally on part-time income than sacrifice my whole life for a meaningless job, and anything meaningful is hard to come by and extremely competitive and soul-sucking too. I'm still unemployed after my last job because I can't imagine going back into remote customer service where you get 2 seconds cooldown in-between calls and everything else requires me to learn skills that I'm not confident I'll ever master after my previous experience. All my coworkers were mindless drones and did great at the job but the rules were so esoteric and vague I never managed to make sense of them so I failed. It is all so tiresome

No. 2187716

>>2187649
i had a retail job for a few months before university and i was obviously much more exhausted at the end of the day but it never gave me this sense of dread (stress yes, but not dread). most of the time it was clear what i had to do and i could just turn off my brain and follow directions. i also had a few coworkers my age and no one had to pretend they actually had a passion for this job so we could just gossip about things together. at the end of the day i was also just done and didn't have to worry about it anymore. at my current job everyone acts like this is their meaning in life and they'd gladly work more hours since it's basically a hobby for them. the corporate atmosphere also just makes me sick. something about it is so unnatural that i just can't relax. like i said i know i'm lucky but sometimes i wish i could just go back and do my first job part-time instead (but maybe i just never got as depressed because i knew it was just temporary).

>>2187671
yeah getting your productivity measured by how much you're accomplishing instead of just bidding your time is so stressful, especially if you're slower than expected. the actual programming at my job isn't so bad when it's just a clear task laid out but the second new (non-programming) technology comes into play and it's 'oh ask person X for more information' and 'for the deployment check with person Y' and i know literally 0 (which they should be aware of..), but i'm somehow still expected to figure it out. that's when my productivity goes the lowest and i just don't do anything the whole day except be worried i'll get contacted because someone wants to know my progress (but i can't even enjoy the free time because i'm overwhelmed and feel like shit).
i also really relate to those 8 hours being less productive than a 4 hour work day. when i know it's only a few hours it's much easier to just focus and get it done instead of knowing there's still so much time left for even more afterwards. your previous part-time arrangement sounded pretty nice. also 40 hours (or more) per week is such a big chunk of your life and i'll never want to sacrifice so much of my time for something so meaningless anymore. it completely sucks my soul dry and i can't believe it's not the same for everyone. at work it seems like most people don't even have actual hobbies anymore, since the rest of their free time is spent on their children/chores instead. and i don't want to end up like that. so i'll follow your advice and really just do the bare minimum kek. maybe i'll get a psych diagnosis after getting fired (as that helps with unemployment benefits and finding a part time job too). imo make the most out of your unemployment and enjoy the extra free time with friends and hobbies and passion projects that actually bring you joy. obviously you need some money to live but otherwise no amount of money is worth time (except if it means you can buy more time).

No. 2187726

>>2187641
>every time i get a microsoft teams notif it's like a jumpscare
God I relate to this

No. 2187733

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This is a psa for nonnies to not over exaggerate on their resume lies and to always remember what you lied about. Since I’m an immigrant I spiced up my resume with realistic lies because who is going to fact-check in another country? Despite not using excel for a number of years and taking the course twice and even tutoring people I’m extremely rusty. My boss at the time could tell and would always berate me for “overselling” myself and even “lying” despite that not being the case. It got so bad even coworkers were questioning my knowledge on the oilfield industry because I had past oilfield jobs. Now you’re probably wondering what I lied about. I lied about having a stable work history and working at my family’s business from 2019-2022. That’s it.

No. 2187737

>>2187733
Friends have had their job history verified(UK) in a foreign country(Spain), even though it was not in a related field. My HR friend says it is somewhat uncommon, but I would not be so confident, anon.

No. 2187791

Has anyone else suspected they're facing age discrimination for looking too young? A lot of people assume I'm under 18, even though I'm in my 20s with a college degree. I'm strongly believe this is why I'm being passed over for real jobs. I couldn't even get an essentially minimum wage, part-time admin assistant job in a grocery store that I was totally qualified for. It's like she took one look at me and just read my resume as soon as possible, didn't ask any questions and had me on my way. She even said they were having a lot of trouble finding someone to fill the role for months because it required weekends & they would have to work on the floor, when I said I was going to actually ask if I could do that to get as many hours as possible. It's really affected my confidence in applying for roles. I don't want to keep working at Starbucks.

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>>2187791
Yes, I had it a lot in my 20s. You should dress like a millennial and do your makeup as such for interviews.

No. 2188072

>>2187733
nah your boss berating you over excel is pretty dumb though kek, you can be pretty masterful with it if you know how to google even halfway decently.
t. googlefu warrior

No. 2188092

>>2187733
excel is one thing i would never lie about. it’s so unnecessarily complex. devil’s application.

No. 2188186

>>2187791
Yes it fucked me over many times and former coworkers and managerd indirectly confirmed they thought I was retarded just based on how I looked and kept gasping in shock when I told them I was more or less their age over and over again. Except even Starbucks didn't want me back when I was a student kek. It affected me long term because it happened at a time when I really needed money to go on an exchange program abroad in uni and not being able to go anywhere made my resume mediocre, that and how young I looked made me unable to get an internship on time so I had to graduate a year too late as a result and then covid happened.

No. 2188205

>>2188092
Excel isn’t something I used every day when unemployed so I lost a lot of knowledge. Still can use a lot of basic functions and fundamentals.
>>2188072
Google was my best friend lol. Idk what his damage was I think he thought I came from money.

No. 2188684

Someone that I know wants referrals for my company that I just started working at months ago and I’m kind of hesitant. I know this person from high school and have never worked with her. I also barely have work experience and don’t know many people at my company. I cannot give any advice on how to get into this company organically because I had a really good connection through my old job & only hear about internal hires aside from niche positions. How much am I supposed to do for references for this person? It lowkey weirds me out now that I think about it because she has been trying to get a referral to my company from me since I announced my new job.

No. 2189089

>>2188684
When a friend of mine applied to my company she mentioned me in her application and said I referred her without asking for my permission. It kind of pissed me off because she didn't even have any fitting qualifications for the job and it could've badly reflected on me. If you don't even know her that well and you're new yourself, I wouldn't risk it.

No. 2189207

>>2189089
It pisses me off because now that I’m at a top company it’s like all kinds of people are coming out of the woodwork to try and beg for references when I literally just got here. If it’s a random man asking for a reference for a job I just straight up ignore them KEK.

No. 2189252

Telus nona please come back. I failed Part 3 and I'm so incredibly sad about it. Please give me advice on how I can do better next time. Please

No. 2190622

I fear I am making a bad impression on the company that is in the works of doing a background check on me. I made them wait 2 extra weeks combined, due to not having the right papers on time and trying to get a phone number from one of my references.

No. 2190628

Is having no social media presence (instagram, facebook) suspish to employers?

No. 2190691

>>2189207
I had a recruiter I spoke to at a career fair that said he would help me and put me in contact with people from his company, but he never did and then ignored me. Now he saw that I've been hired somewhere else and suddenly messaged me to ask "How I like it there". He can fuck straight off.

No. 2190721

>>2190691
Kek anon that’s hilarious, I’ve had so many recruiters ghost me too. UPDATE but this person ghosted me after I told her I can’t give referrals since I just started, but that I am happy to answer any questions and give her information that will help her strategy to get in at my company. My company is really competitive to get into so I was just gonna tell her to apply for whatever job she thinks she has the best chance of getting and don’t try to stretch it. Then she can change departments (most new hires are all internal and everyone constantly switches departments).
I don’t want to gatekeep but I feel like it would look bad if I try referring someone to random people at my company that I don’t know considering I just started here. She is trying to switch industries/roles so she doesn’t have related or striking Fortune 100 work experience that I can leverage in this case. I’m fine with her putting my name down as a “How did you find out about this job” btw but my career mentor also once told me to never give references for people unless I personally worked with them.

No. 2190732

>>2190628
It can be, but the companies who 'need' social media to make a decision are usually shady as fuck. It's normal for companies to snoop on potential employees to see if they're going to cause trouble but being a normal, polite, clean and fully functioning human being at the interview will help you a lot.

No. 2190928

>>2190691
Kek the job market feels like the fucking dating scene nowdays. Once you finally get a job, suddenly that hoe that ghosted you two months ago slides into your DMs like “heyyy”

No. 2192321

I fucking hate recruiters. Not only do all job listings seem to be made by them and similar companies, but when you do work with them they'll fill your profile with half-truths or straight up wrong information which means I get to awkwardly explain during an interview that the thing about x they were told was in fact wrong.
They're so fucking pushy and will pressure you by straight up lying about things, I hate them but it's so hard to avoid them.

No. 2192923

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wtf this is an option on a job app i'm filling out. i have absolutely no idea what to do. do i opt out or now

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>>2192923
I would opt out. There is a long history of hiring algorithms being sexist to the point of being unusable legally.
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/insight-amazon-scraps-secret-ai-recruiting-tool-that-showed-bias-against-women-idUSKCN1MK0AG/

No. 2192938

>>2192933
im just concerned of i opt out ill be filtered

No. 2192944

>>2192933
Nta, what if you do not declare your gender?

No. 2192952

>>2192944
The algorithm in the picrel found ways to filter out women’s applications without them declaring a gender. If you went to an all girl’s college it was filtered. Any mention of “women” such as being the captain of the women’s chess club caused you to be filtered. Women were more likely to have gaps in their resume compared to men and were filtered. The algorithm doesn’t know what a man or woman is, or that the applicant is one or the other. It finds connections and traits that you and I would not pick to select appropriate applications. One hiring algorithm had determined applicants with the name Jared and that played lacrosse in high school would be good hires, as an example. The Amazon algorithm systematically filtered out women’s applications because they were more likely to not meet whatever criteria the algorithm was using to determine the eligibility and aptitude of the applicant. Even when modified to not weigh the use of “women” in an application it continued to reject them. The AI fundamentally had bias against women that after years of development could not be erased.

No. 2193047

I think filtering or bias against women must be real because I just met some guy who applied to multiple jobs at my company and got interviews for all of them. Compare that to me and my application actually “got lost” according to the hiring manager even though I had directly relevant experience for my current job. My boss literally had to go tell the hiring person my name to have them dig up my application. The guy who got multiple interviews for multiple jobs had no experience and was a white male freshly graduated from a state school. I also have noticed that the companies that I work at, most of the young people tend to be white men despite them supposedly being discriminated against. Nearly the entire intern class at my last company was men with the majority of them being white. Which says a lot bc I’m sure the majority of applicants were female since women are the majority in college now. Idk what is going on but even with moid’s ineptitude and women’s academic prowess, the system still does everything it can to keep moids in positions of power. And I’ve noticed also that most of these men are not that bright.
Have any other corporate nonnies noticed the same?

No. 2193189

I can't stand my condescending prick of a colleague anymore. His work is sloppy yet he is always nitpicking me about something. Not sure if it is because he is some autist but, for supposedly being a senior dealing with a less experienced person, he never actually explains anything he points out as wrong. He just..says it wrong. He also tends to laugh at me. It's getting so bad I want out of this team.

What should I do nonas..I'd ask my boss about this, but I don't want to risk him just siding with him and then making my colleague even more hostile, or god forbid making the whole rest of my team hostile form being painted as some kind of instigator. Yet, I'm so done with being a pushover to him too. He's clearly acting like some bully.

Fortunately, I work as a contractor in project-based work..and I think my contract ends in December so I could just choose not to renew it and start looking for another project. Would that be a good idea if I am still an inexperienced person that's been in my role for only a couple of months? Please someone offer some advice…I hate this guy so much and I'm suffering. Oh, I should also mention that I want to get a security clearance and this current project role does not offer any so I'm wanting to get out of this project and onto a different one for this reason alone. I would have wanted to leave eventually whether it was due to hostile co-workers or not…

No. 2193236

>>2192933
This is such bullshit and people show this as "proof" of how even computer thinks women are inferior employees when the truth is that AI acts according to the data and bias it's given, of course if companies would rather hire men they'll also influence the AI based on their previous hiring history.

No. 2193314

>>2192952
> One hiring algorithm had determined applicants with the name Jared and that played lacrosse in high school would be good hires, as an example.
If you actually work in corporate (I’m in finance) then you know these types of moids seldom are actual killer hires or “game changers” on a team. I know a dozens of men like this and can count on maybe 3 fingers the ones that offer any interesting perspective in project meetings. They’re not actually cutting edge, moreso an army of former frat date rapist clones who procrastinate & shoot the shit in boys club office politics where the most cerebral non-work-related conversations are golf and college football. Luckily I earned my spot here but I feel like the only way to really move up & get ahead as a woman in this environment is to be their female equivalent who is married to a guy just like this. The women on their teams are basically that and they constantly complain about their husbands running off to college football games on the weekends and leaving them with the kids, as the men of the office laugh and cheer on those shitty husbands—side note but as a woman who has decided to never get married, I already feel like I’m going to be the weird one in any work environment and that scares me. I think eventually I will probably have to go for more impersonal teams where they don’t ask about my “significant other” and all that. Back to the Bills & Teds and Kyles & Jareds, If you have no interest in their “culture” like the sports games and golf then you can kiss your chance of being hired on their team goodbye, and unfortunately this is the majority of highly respected corporate finance teams.

No. 2193342

>>2193236
This is why AI is not the technological breakthrough it's advertised to be.
It's literally the lowest common denominator. It can only drag us all down.

No. 2193969

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>heard fed insurance is hot
>worse dental benefits than the shitty little non-profit I worked at

No. 2194000

>>2193236
Most people are willfully ignorant when it comes to AI for reasons like this. They just refuse to accept that the computer isn't actually coming to intelligent conclusions, just compiling data and outputing the most likely answer based on human behavior. I hate AItards

No. 2194002

>>2193969
You're in the shit tier grunt feds then. The dmv doesn't count

No. 2194032

>>2187716
NTA and maybe a stupid question but why not change fields and aim for a non-corporate job? If you're suffering all day long, even working from home, the pay cut might be worth it anon. If I understood correctly, it's your second time feeling like this at that kind of job, so it just sounds like it's not for you.

>>2193189
I know nothing about contract work so I don't know if not renewing your contract after only a few months could reflect badly or if it's totally normal (?), but if it's not an issue and you had planned to leave anyway, then leaving sounds reasonable. Then again if you're ready to leave, why not try to ask to change teams first or speak to your boss? If it doesn't go well, you can just stop in December. It's hard to give advice on those kinds of things but it seems like the cons outweigh the pros. Stay strong nonna, I feel you because there's a male I absolutely despise at work, he ruins my mood, but he's the only issue I have so I don't want to quit only because of him..

No. 2194370

Failed my first accounting exam (professional qualifications) and I feel like trash. It was a bad fail too, so I feel extra stupid. I just don’t understand the content and the amount of tricky wording and info in each question does my head in. I think my autism makes it difficult to understand what the question is asking, I get overwhelmed and then just guess (inevitably the wrong answer). I’m so scared that I’ll lose my job now and I still have so many exams to sit! They’ll probably want me to resit in the next two weeks but I’m scared that’s not enough time for me to get confident with concepts that are almost entirely new to me. Add onto it that I’m always exhausted from working full time alongside this, in an open plan office where I’m constantly over or under stimulated. Idk what to do, aside from the fact I’m determined not to give up on this qualification.

No. 2195002

>>2194032
>speak to your boss
I'm worried my boss would just side with him. He doesn't seem to have seen anything wrong with his behavior so far and even exhibits some of his traits, like interrupting and talking over people. Since I'm the less knowledgeable and experienced colleague, I think that works against me too. He may just tell me to listen to him more or something since he "has more experience" than me. And as difficult as it is to work with him personality-wise, he DOES sometimes help with my issues at work. More often than not, he does not though..since I either end up just figuring it out myself or his feedback is completely vague, useless, or just nitpicking. Mostly, he is just a condescending son of a bitch (And I'm in tech, so that's 99.9% of moids in it, anyway).
>Stay strong nonna, I feel you because there's a male I absolutely despise at work, he ruins my mood, but he's the only issue I have so I don't want to quit only because of him
Thank you. For the most part, this guy is pretty much my only issue as well. Most of my other colleagues are patient, understanding, and actually approachable. This guy just acts completely unprofessional.

No. 2197465

thought i was getting fired but i came in today to three big projects that i’ve been told will take a few months + a new chair, so. maybe not. i still want to leave around march next year though this job is really mind numbing and my coworkers are pretty rude regardless

No. 2197529

>>2197465
I wouldn't be so confident in that nona. The new chair might be for your replacement, not you.

No. 2197584

>>2193189
Is there an opportunity to become office friends with other people on your team? I became buddies with everyone and it helped me feel better about the guy on my team who acts EXACTLY as you describe. Because I like to be nice and friendly at work, and he ruins my mood but I just pretend he straight up does not exist. Also fights off the internal idea that I'm incompetent because there's 1 smug prick, and 6 people who appreciate my work. My closer co-worker knows I fucking hate this guys guts and will ask questions we both need the answer to. We haven't spoken in a calendar month despite working very closely and I hope to keep it up.

I don't know if this is constructive advice but it's what I've done in my situation with a similar scrote.

No. 2197607

My small department is having a shift in culture in a way I don't like and starting to keep track of how often certain people are working from home. I sense this is the beginning of the end, but we've had a good run.

But being for fucking real, why do people need to ruin it for everyone? We have a policy that so long as there's no offline meetings (and there are a lot of offline meetings) you can work from home. Why has everyone started to subtly comment on so and so taking 3 days home office last week, or making remarks that they're probably doing nothing at home, or saying "oh I don't recall the last time I saw X in office". It could have been good. It COULD have been great for everyone! But people are going as far to complain to the manager that too many people are WFH on a particular day.

I'm not talking a minority, the opinions sort of spread out from a small number to more than half acting like this, no doubt not wanting to be labelled a slacker. Absolutely playing ourselves for 0 benefit.

No. 2197613

>>2197529
i’d be less confident if my boss hadn’t gone “your chair seems uncomfortable do you want a new one?” and let me pick out a chair kek

No. 2198245

I successfully finished my apprenticeship and they hired me (pretty easy), but they also had a talk with me and my only coworker about a screenshot of one of our group chats that someone from one of those chats leaked. There's a fucking snitch in those groups. I highly suspect it was this moid that acted suspiciously uninterested when my senior ex-coworkers shared with us all the dirt they had on the bosses and accused them of labour exploitation (which scared me, ngl, but I've since realized that this job isn't that bad and the environment is decent).
The worst I remember texting in the chats is a summary of what my senior colleagues told us so the potential snitch knew what we were talking about, since he didn't seem to hear our conversation at that time. Terrible mistake. But oh well, my bosses seem to trust me and I didn't do anything wrong, it's just infuriating that someone would actually do that. Feels like a stab in the back.
I don't know from which of the two chats the screenshot was taken, or when it was sent, but it'd make sense if it happened shortly after I sent that message (several months ago), since, right after he quit, this moid almost confessed to me that he liked me, but he also admitted that he used to see me as competition, which I already suspected since we started working there. What a piece of shit if true.

No. 2198876

I really fucked up at my current job because i haven’t been doing a few tasks I was supposed to do. I’m going to quit next week.

No. 2199311

How do ya'll deal with burn out? I work in the aviation industry and travel for work (you can prob guess what I do), and its so fucking exhausting. Dealing with the general public is a headache in itself. I have daily dreams where I go off on these people. Anyways I'm trying to be better. I just bought some green nutrient thing that I'm hoping keeps my energy levels high and so I'm not totally miserable dealing with it all.

No. 2199581

>>2199311
Update: Just tried the green nutrient powder and it was so disgusting I was gagging to the point I threw up a little. Ugh. I just want to feel alive and less miserable at work.

No. 2200217

If you had a chance to continue with your two year program and maybe get a well respected job afterward or get a less respectable job that you feel happier doing, which would you choose?

No. 2200221

>>2199311
Do you have paid sick days you can use? Check your labour laws or get a doctor to write you a time off note for stress. Sorry you are dealing with that

No. 2200559

>>2200217
Does it even matter how respectable a job is? Salary, travel time and job security are much more important. Happiness is secondary to that imo, even jobs you like will include awful days.

No. 2200575

>>2200221
It's a strange work around. Honestly this job is very flexible and in the last two months I was able to get 2 weeks off straight in August and September but because we have to live in big cities where the cost of living is outrageous it's kinda hard to do that with these bills to pay. I will say though when I came back to work after the time off I felt like a much nicer person and was more patient. But honestly being away from home for a period of time, I don't know if it messes with my energy levels or what. Caffeine doesn't seem to do much and by my final day I'm kind of anti-social and not interested in convos with my colleagues.

No. 2200856

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Nonnas with PTO, do you prefer your vacation time front loaded or accrued? I just got an offer with a 30% raise from my current position that I hate, but the thought of having to earn vacation (10 days accrued yearly, unsure if it rolls over) rather than having it up front feels scary even if there's a small amount of personal time to fall back on. Maybe I should negotiate but I don't want to ask too much.

No. 2201300

I got a raise at my job (I make $26/cad 40hrs/week) but I feel like I could make more waitressing. Do I go for it?

No. 2201608

I'm going to die on my commute tomorrow. I work agency and I'm booked into HR, but because I'm agency I just get paid to sit there and not work like at all. At first it was fine but now I'm actually losing my entire mind just writing my thoughts down in a notebook all day. Sometimes I get asked to put files away. A full wage with 0 things to do is worse than full wage with lots of things to do

No. 2201701

>>2201608
Can't you read or study a language or listen to podcasts or something? Or do you need to look busy?

No. 2201708

>>2201608
Anon give me your job right now. You could write you could read you can listen to music, learn a skill, surf the internet but somehow.. you're here bitchin lmao

No. 2201710

>>2201708
get her ass

No. 2201719

>>2201708
like!? that was the job i had a couple of years ago i would still be there til the day i died but my boss had to fuck off and die of cancer (RIP). I used to watch so much anime and that job and get paid so much in random bonuses. some people have all the world and don't even realize it.

No. 2201729

>>2201608
hmm well while i agree with the other anons i get how a job like this is stressful. my own job is similar and there’s always that overarching fear of getting fired or laid off because they’ll eventually realize the bulk of my duties can be done in an hour. that said i’ve been using this surplus of free time to upskill, so i can hop to something better soonish. i try to dedicate one-two hours per day. i recommend you do the same

No. 2201902

Landing my first real job and it's a big government contract except they are asking me for a fixed rated. Do i low-ball myself or actually ask for industry standard at the risk of getting passed up? I sort of have a feeling it's better for them to hire me since I already started the work and my expertise is somewhat rare in the region. What dool

No. 2201973

>>2201902
Don't undercut yourself if you are qualified

No. 2202035

>>2201729
Smartest nonita I've seen post in a long time

I have a job with occasional downtime but I am a stupid idiot so I just read junk articles online during it

No. 2202938

any IT nonas here? are you happy with your career? i want to get into this field but it feels like such a "boys club" if that makes sense. i worry i won't be taken seriously

No. 2202980

>>2202938
Chances are you won't be taken seriously at any job as a woman tbh, especially if it is one that pays well. Maybe I was lucky but I haven't made any bad experiences with sexism except with my one boss that was just a horrible boss in general and it wasn't related to me working in IT. I'm not a burgerfag though and IT people in my country are in high demand, so it might also be that they are extra careful not to loose anyone. If you are happy with having to learn new stuff your whole life and like the field I would say go for it nona. I was also never the only woman tbh. Usually there is at least some HR or marketing lady at the job that you regularly interact with so it's very unlikely that you will be the only woman.

No. 2203084

applied to a local coffee shop a couple days ago, they just emailed me back an hour ago asking for my availability and preferred location, fuck i hope i actually get the job so i can finally stop stressing wish me luck nonnies

No. 2203644

>>2203084
good luck nonnie!

No. 2203826

>>2201701
>>2201708
>>2201710
>>2201719
Do you all have your own office or what? When anons complain about having nothing to do all day it's always the same reaction but like.. how do you watch series and browse random websites in an open space or shared office? Having to pretend to be busy for 8~9 hours straight sounds dreadful.

No. 2203886

>>2203826
Plenty of people work remote, on flex locations so people don't even know who you are or what you should be doing or simply in (small) offices with their back to a wall

No. 2204997

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I know this is immature/impulsive, but writing demand letters to my old landlord has actually made me consider becoming a paralegal. I really enjoy analyzing situations, organizing facts, and drafting precise& persuasive documents. It's so satisfying. Plus, the idea of eventually going to law school, becoming a judge, and making decisions in civil court drama would be fucking awesome. Can someone in law tell me what it's really like?

No. 2205107

Going in tomorrow to get my final paycheck from the job I quit (no prior notice of resignation, just told them I'm not coming in again) last week. Last time I asked management if I should come into get it or if they would mail it to me I got ignored, so fingers crossed they just give it to me tomorrow instead of being assholes about it. I'll file a wage claim if I have to but I'll be annoyed if they make me endure more retardation because of their pettiness for the same result.

No. 2205145

>>2204997
I did two years of law school before dropping out. I liked the work but it's a very elitist world and I found I couldn't stand the type of people it attracted.

No. 2205451

>>2205145
>I couldn't stand the type of people it attracted.

What kind? Give us the deets.

No. 2206221

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I love my job but I'm struggling with something.

There's about 5 staff there, including myself, and volunteer educators and facilitators etc etc.

I'm the youngest person there at any given time, since almost our entire client base is the elderly.

All of my coworkers are over the age of 40, I'm 25.

I really fucking struggle to feel comfortable around my coworkers. They're all at LEAST 20 years older than me, and there's this massive like.. imbalance? I feel like they view me in the sense of a child/grandchild and not an equal. It's super hard to socialise with them or chat.

It's really thrown me off because all of the other jobs I've had, I've gotten along super well with coworkers my age, I've never worked somewhere that I didn't have coworkers my age until now.

Is this normal? I'm totally fine at my job, I just feel socially left out and I feel like I'm being retarded.

No. 2208198

>>2203084
finally i got an interview scheduled this wednesday hope i get it

No. 2208325

does anyone know how to make a permissive male boss like you if you're a type A perfectionist? I'm pretty sure he hates me except for the fact that I keep him from having to cover shifts, and I can't stand him

also I'm really annoyed all the managers who work mon-friday mope around like they're so overwhelmed and overworked when most of them take a three day weekend every other week and they don't work overtime. like at least put on a happy work face when you're there if you're a leader. they make it so hard to have a positive attitude, it's like they want to bring you down. change jobs if you hate it so much, you make two or three times as much as everyone below you.

No. 2209632

I've been trying to get an entry level job in my field for a while now, and it's astounding the level of difference in interviews.
Like, why did you even let me come in for an interview if you spend the entire time being negative about my resume. It's not like you didn't see it beforehand. I'm sorry I don't have the right internship experience but I can't change that now can I. So if you decided someone really needs to have that already why invite me? Why look down demeaning on everything I say? It's so tiring. I've had some good interviews too where nothing happened for fundamental mismatches, but that felt nice and even if I didn't get those jobs those were good experiences to add to my skill set. Yet with others you get treated as if you're a bad person for even daring to apply. Just reject the application in that case, why even humiliate me?

No. 2209772

>>2209632
These kinds of places are full of bullies anyways, but I believe they're looking for someone they can underpay

No. 2210520

>>2198876
Same!!

I've become depressed due to burn out and it's made me careless with important work. I feel shame and have anxiety about being confronted about being a disappointment/fired so would rather quit than have that convo.

No. 2210871

>>2210520
>>2198876
Nonnies, I came to the thread to say this exact shit lol. It's gotten to the point where I have nightmares about work and am paranoid that my once very nice coworkers are watching me and waiting for me to make a mistake when they aren't making backhanded remarks about how I'm slipping up. It would mean a pay cut and going back to being wagie at some deadend chain, but fuck this job isn't worth the extra few bucks. I'd rather be a wagie than feel dead inside and dead tired on my good days and close to suicidal on bad days.

No. 2210885

>>2210520
>>2198876
>>2210871
Being in trouble is fake up to the point you are actually fired and only then is it real, being paranoid about wether you're in trouble is a waste of time and will drive you insane. If it makes you feel better then go to your boss and say you've missed a couple things but you are going to correct it and just need help with [xyz] thing to catch up. Most of the time they'd rather keep you than rehire and retrain and they'll be delighted to hear you're gonna catch up if they have even noticed you're behind.
The number of people who sit on their hands all day doing fuck all who don't get fired proves that you don't have to be the master of everything to keep your job.

No. 2210932

I've honestly never written a cover letter, I always thought it was a waste of time but tbh I'm starting to feel like I should if it gives me a small chance of being set apart from other candidates. I just hate that these jobs want you to lick their feet for even a chance at being interviewed. I have the qualifications, you need an employee. What else needs to be said?

No. 2210986

nonas, what do you do about letters of recommendation if you barely interacted with your professors? i'm currently looking at graduate programs and majority of them require 3 letters of recommendation. do i just go to the professors that i got an A in their class and ask them, or am i fucked

No. 2211005

Having genuine misandrist thoughts at work about one of my direct reports who was promoted shortly before I came on. Why would you promote a man… he’s not gonna do any fucking work and he’s a huge baby.

No. 2211781

>>2210986
Yes you do exactly that kek

No. 2216686

Going to quit my job and look for something else in waitressing instead. Tired of being harrassed by my boss.

No. 2216950

I hate when I go to forums and subreddits for people from my field (STEM related) and there will always be at least one person whining how the pay is low, that there are no jobs, and how much they regret not going into tech. Bitch, then do something about it. You only have yourself to blame for going into a field that's supposedly jobless and shit. Even if there was an alternate universe where they got into tech I'm pretty sure these same people would be whining instead about the massive tech layoffs, how their job is soulless, and that they should have gotten into a career that they're more passionate about. My uni classmates who found out that this field is not for them eventually went into a career that's completely unrelated to this field but still luccrative. Whiny people are just so annoying.

No. 2218388

>>2198876
>>2210520
>>2210885
>>2210871
Same here. I got lazy and procrastinated, but nothing really happened besides a general comment someone made during a meeting about sticking to things. I was so stressed and embarrassed about it that I did wonder if I should quit though when I heard it. I'm not assigned to anything right now, so I'm coming in just to look busy. I think I'll try to get away with WFH tomorrow because it's ridiculous and boring. I hate working.

No. 2218833

I hate my job so much but I just signed a contract for a new role that will train me up in a field I’ve been dying to break into. It also at a prestigious company and pays 25% more than my current job and puts me into the 90th percentile of earners my age in my country. I needed this huge fucking win.

No. 2219221

>Retard Christian School is looking for a servant-minded, self-motivated and detail-oriented person to fill a Human Resource Generalist position!
>servant minded
What the fuck

No. 2219245

>>2219221
Might be a typo for service? That's a christian thing right, probably goes double for a retard school

No. 2219665

My HR department is 100% taking advantage of the fact they're only two people to get away with being awful. I work with them directly (on top of my other responsibilities) and though they're not supposed to be my priority, they constantly give me piles of work, make comments about my work not being "professional" (then why do you keep asking for my help?), give me insanely short deadlines and generally make my life hell. I can't report this to anyone because I'd be reporting the HR lady to herself, and my manager also works so closely with her that there'd be too much bias. I am part of a union but this doesn't break any labour laws (though I'm certain HR tried to pull some weird shit regarding my pay one time, where they asked ME for clarification regarding a certain related law and only revealed they knew the law all along when I emailed them various government links and forms).
HR are literally the cops of the corporate world and I hope they all die.

No. 2219725

I'm so sick of my boss making me look bad at work. He's constantly the one holding me up from submitting things because he waits until the absolute very last second to submit anything even after ive asked him 3x for it. I get snarky comments from head office giving me due dates for when things need to be submitted, constant reminders of the due dates and constant "so when do you think you'll have those in?" messages, it just pisses me off even more because I KKKNNNOOOWWW and i would have it in already if it wasn't for my boss holding everything up. However head office doesn't care that it's him holding me up, they only care that i get it in on time. And my boss doesn't care that head office is breathing down my neck because they're not breathing down HIS neck.

No. 2219771

oh goddd. i just completely bombed an competency based interview i had been preparing for since last week (in app process since july)… truly cannot believe how bad that went. it was those fucking technical questions at the beginnging really threw me off.
and it started so well with my introduction lmao but i just felt my confidence deteriorating throughout and they really started grilling me ughhhhh. ive NEVER had an interview that bad before (besides maybe the first one i ever did for a real job, that i didnt prepare at all for). this one i did prepare and it was completely off the mark

no fucking chance. im depressed but whatever. it wasnt meant to be.

No. 2219841

I have no education and I was NEET for 10 years straight. Somehow I got this nice job where I just chill and play with children. My coworkers are chill and nice too. The payment is ok and I feel rich rich because it’s much more than NEETbux. That being said don’t settle for a job that makes you want an hero.

No. 2219929

Should I prank call my old job? They deserve it for firing me and making it difficult to land a job.

No. 2220003

>>2219929
I did this once to my first job after i quit. It was a shitty takeout restaurant so i called and immediately hung up a few times during their rush hour and they called the cops to my house KEK.
It did slightly amuse me though, so i say do it.

No. 2220072

>>2219929
Yes but only if you use a burner app on your phone and only if you think of something really funny to make it worth it

No. 2220078

>>2220072
samefag but I did this recently when someone called and it was clear he was jerking off and just getting random women on the phone to listen to him do it. I downloaded a burner app and made it look like a local number from his area and started texting him shit like "shame on you, you're disgusting". I took a risk because it was clear that my reaction tied me to my job but he didn't report me, he apologized and then blocked the burner number. If only I could kill people through the phone.

No. 2224782

I work for myself now, but I have zero motivation to improve. At my other jobs, I was a high performer and I loved to work (I would fucking work for free I was so cucked). Any advice on how to see my current self employed job in a way that excites me and makes me want to learn the industry and care about it? I didn't "care" about my old industry, but I was still eager to learn. I work with my husband and my father in law and I feel like shit that I can't just dial in and make myself see this job as all my other jobs. What kills me is how slow paced the small business environment is. I loved how fast paced and balls to the walls it was at larger companies where I always had a million tasks to do at once. Now I would have to dig and FIND tasks to do and that's annoying to me.

No. 2224802

>>2224782
You don't have to prove yourself to anybody anymore. Why improve if there's no reason to? You are perfect the way you are now.

No. 2224929

>>2220078
Should call him with another burner and just play man grunts saying vile porn lines constantly at 3am.
Or the next time a scrote does this:
> sir it sounds like you’re having a medical emergency! I’m going to put you on hold and contact emergency services, hang on! Help is on the way!!!
That or record it and start sending it to the creep randomly and reminding him what a fucking worthless sack of shit he is and if you ever find out who he is you’re going to call all his loved ones and play them the recording so they can know what a passionate man he is. You bet his mom and dad’ll just be in the throws of ecstasy listening to him tug his little chili. God men are fucking dumb.

No. 2224950

>>2224802
It's more for my self fulfillment that I wish I took this job more seriously. I hate being bored or feeling like I'm not working. I take community college classes that are online, I read, and in general I pursue my other interests at work since there's so much time as I finish my duties very quickly.

No. 2224953

>>2224950
>self fulfillment
Buzzword. You are not empty.
Enjoy life, stop feeling like something is missing.

No. 2228027

>>2224950
Good lord I wish I were you. I wish I could read or study a language while on the job.

No. 2228360

I have a job interview tomorrow where I have to perform like an extroverted normie, does anyone have any last minute tips on making small talk?

No. 2228371

>>2220078
Use AI voicebanks to make lots of audios of men moaning and jerking off and spam his phone with them. He'll love that. Oh, and in case you run out of burner numbers, search for his number online and see if it's tied to any social media. Once you dox him, post ads on gay sites for moids with a fetish for convincing straight men to take dick.

No. 2229500

Is it ok if I slack off today at home and just move the mouse to keep my laptop turned on from time to time if I'm still a bit sick and tired and can do actual work tomorrow anyway? I have deadlines but have more than enough time to do more work tomorrow so I'm not too late.

No. 2229544

>>2229500
You'll probably be fine doing that for one day because everyone does it but in the long-term you should find out how much surveillance your workplace has on your work computer.

For example my workplace is fairly chill but uses the basic Microsoft options that log the number of emails send and automatically ranks programs you have open the most during your online hours, so I will only be in trouble if I'm so behind that someone notices and checks if the amount of time I spend in the programs doesn't match up to my work output.
Some workplaces are more strict and log numbers of clicks, keystrokes and detect automatic mouse jigglers.

No. 2229595

>>2229544
I haven't been caught in like 3 years so I assume nobody checks this kind of things. I have no clue how my manager could check anything, actually.

No. 2229749

>>2229595
I did the bare minimum at the last minute and will go to the office the rest of the week to compensate, whatever. I can't focus at home.

No. 2231719

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>be an anxious insecure mess
>finally get an internship, in a competitive field, but in a backend role
>many people before me quit, huge age gap in the field
>be well received by the team and boss
>almost twenty women to two men (both in the lowest position)
>first month
>boss tells me a story how they pressured one woman to leave the internship years ago because she was lazy and uninterested
>freak the fuck out
>have nightmares about being forced to quit
>months later
>ask oldest intern about that story
>while employed, the woman had a young child and a couple of twins a year later
>she was pressured to quit because "she would be to busy to work"
>they fucking fired a woman with three young children
>set back her career in four/five years
>since the field is small she was effectivelly kicked out of it
>all the people who pushed her to quit were women old enough to have grandchildren
>ie, boomers

jfc, how the fuck could you do that to someone. misogny is rampant in the field, even from young women (to the point i sometimes prefered to work with older senseless men rather than some women), women are asked if they want to get pregnant or if they have kids on interviews, but firing a woman with 3 young kids is beyond the pale.

No. 2231750

>>2231719
Boomers grew up being taught that empathy was a weakness. My guess is that the young women were also afraid of being ostracized so they teamed up with their superiors/elders to protect themselves. But yeah misogyny is still alive and well and it fucks women's lives without mercy. It's really sad that your work environment is so toxic, nona, I'm wishing you the best.

No. 2231767

>>2231719
isn't that illegal? in the US, you could probably get them fired if you sued for gender based harassment. it doesn't matter that they're also women

No. 2231775

>>2231719
So they didn't even wait to see if she would be too busy to work, they just decided on their own that her home life didn't align with their company values or w/e and fired her pre-emptively? That's absolutely horrible.

No. 2231785

>>2231719
I've seen the same phenomenon time and time again where people with social disadvantages and/or from tough backgrounds have absolutely nothing but contempt for people in the same situations as them. "Muh bootstraps" is just socioeconomic pickmeism.

No. 2231805

>>2231767
it is illegal, but in our shitty country is still a pretty common thing. they can't fire per se, but they can and will bully the women out of the job.
the women can sue, but it will take years for them to get some kind of compensation, the people who kicked them out will NOT suffer any kind of admonishment, and the women get shunned out of
their careers. In the meanwhile they have young children to raise, and children are expensive.

>>2231785
the kicker is that in this case all the women involved are from wealthy families with good social standing. the woman kicked was not. besides misogny there is serious classism in my job, because everyone from the older generations is from wealthy families.

No. 2232147

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I did orientation for Target, but honestly… I'm too old for this corportate BS. The training videos, the group ideals, the bullshit to manuver. The only reason I accepted the PT job was because the listing was "ON DEMAND" and then when I arrived to orientation it was changed to seasonal, with no option to change my availibity. When I politely addressed this I was shrugged off and told to deal with it.
The kicker, during orientation, the HR manager told us that we get a 10% discount but if we sign up for a credit card, we get an additional 5% off. I immediately said "thats not really true, when you consider the average APR of credit cards for lower income applicants. If the APR is 20%, then it's still not worth the 5% discount. The HR lady was mad, but honestly fuck that.
I was happy to submit my resignation tonight kek. I didn't want to be a cashier anyways.
I already work 20 hours as an office manager. I am self managed and pick my own schedule. I want to pick up a part time gig, but honestly DoorDash makes me more money than any listing locally. The only thing that could be more lucrative would be a server's job.But even then, I am forced to abide but someone else's schedule.
My game plan is to keep DoorDashing and earn my certification in bookkeeping.
My end goal is to start my own small bookkeeping company and help small local businesses.

No. 2232362

is there a good way to make money online in 2024 or is it all just bs

No. 2232376

>>2232362
Customer service jobs.

No. 2234868

So I recently started a job and it's changing my lifestyle. It's in a giant building and we have to walk far for anything (bathroom, water fountains, microwave, etc), even though it's an office job. I previously worked remote, and I was very inactive in comparison. I didn't have the energy to work out. Now at this job, my feet were always hurting for the first week. I must've been getting 5 times the activity I get farting around at home. But I'm worried it's going too far in the other direction. I have today off, and I can't sit still. I've rearranged my furniture, and I worked out. One of these activities would wipe me out, but here I am, still hyperactive…. I hope I'm not having a mental breakdown or something.

No. 2249457

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Compsci/programmer nonas, I need help. I fucked up by spending my 7 years of work without making much effort to get qualifications and expanding my knowledge in general. Then I shat up my life even more by hikkineeting for one and a half years after a traumatic event. Now I'm coming back to the area and I remember nothing. I feel like I know nothing about the current tools, at least not deeply enough to feel secure during an interview or day to day work. I honestly think I'll not even be called for a second interview, and even if I do, I'll 100% bomb a technical interview. Please nonas help me. How can I get back on track???

No. 2249470

>>2234868
I don't know if you are joking or not but I think you're just experiencing the positive effects of more physical activity/exercise. Being sedentary makes you sluggish in life.

No. 2249496

>>2234868
You're improving for the better nonna

No. 2249506

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>>2249457
Programmer here. Is it a Software Developer/Engineer you're trying to be specifically? Don't worry about certifications, in that case. Recruiters don't care about those. I'm trying to get one right now but it's literally only because my employer would give me a bonus if I do. lol
>I'll 100% bomb a technical interview
I can't offer much advise there because I am absolute dogshit at online-assessment/leetcode type of questions and only lucked out getting by current job from a combination of having good referrals and it being a place that had a super easy technical interview - they didn't have any online assessment/leetcode type of questions for me to do, only asked very basic and easy programming questions like how I would create an instance in Java. Literally 99.9% of other places I applied to were giving me leetcode-style problems and I was crashing and burning at them, sometimes just literally walking away from my screen and giving up. And unfortunately, at least for entry-level roles, these are now what 99.9% of companies make you go through before you even get to an interview. They're a horrible metric for evaluating development skills and have nothing to do with an actual software development job though, so I hope you can luck out like I did. Leetcode is cancer and needs to die.

No. 2249705

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>get a nice remote job from a nona's recommendation
>3 weeks later the job is obviously preparing for a mass layoff
why me

No. 2249801

Are there any fields that are "safe" to try and pivot to? I feel like every field I look into is full of total doomers online. "It's oversaturated and competitive and very underpaid" or "AI is going to cause mass layoffs" or "The QOL sucks and you'll want to kill yourself by year 3." I've been a failure to launch thus far and only ever find part time work because I got a pretty useless degree, failed to make any connections, then got depressed and hikineeted during COVID. Finally on my feet again and I'm thinking about taking some community college classes/finding a bridge program to upskill and veer into a decent career path, and I have the time and money right now to get serious about it, but every single thing I'm excited about is full of people saying "don't do it." Okay, then what field doesn't suck? I've been thinking about data analytics or software engineering, but I don't want to put in all the effort if it'll lead to the same situation of struggling to find work.

No. 2249837

>>2249801
Honestly, not really. Every field has its doomers and it's best not to focus on those reviews and just go your own path

No. 2250889

>>2249801
It's still possible to find work with SWE. It'll just be very, very hard because the entry-level market is now overrun with both people who graduated without even being able to write a for loop and recruiters who would never be able to either yet expect you to have written your own OS at the age of 12. This problem is still there whether you get a CS degree or not. It's just even worse without one. Finding an internship will also be really hard now, but it is one of the best ways.
Start CS degree -> Do internship -> Get return offer -> Accept return offer.
You should then be set by the time you graduate. Do NOT reject the return offer if you can help it. I did and then the company I interned with never wanted me back ever again, no matter how many times I re-applied. When I tried looking for other companies, it was like my internship didn't even matter anymore. The only way almost every other company I spoke to would take on entry-level people is if they were previous interns who accepted a return offer. Big companies vastly prefer applicants who have gone through their intern pipeline over external applicants.

No. 2251206

>>1962884
Tried law school and grad school but don't have the ability to sit there and do all the readings required. Worked at a call center now work at hobby lobby.

No. 2251750

>>2249470
I'm not joking, I'm just a sperg so I have that effect on people

No. 2251772

Why will no one hire me… I work hard and have a great work ethic. Am I that bad at interviews? Is there something else I'm missing? I want to cry.

No. 2253341

The giant asshole for a coworker was now complaining a couple of days ago I wave my cursor around when screensharing too much. He also now answers questions and tells me what to do on my boss's behalf. I legitimately feel bullied by him and everyone else who is being complacent to this. Yet I still won't say anything because I know my boss would side with him. Asshole coworker literally speaks rudely to him too, yet he still doesn't say anything. Boss is probably some kind of coward.

Also, it was just announced the other day that every last person I actually got along with on this team is now leaving to go work under someone else (Same project, same company, just another area apparently). I didn't go with them because I didn't express interest when asked - The tool they offered us to learn is not one I need for my particular career goals. Although now the problem is that literally only all the people I dislike working with are left. All the co-workers that would actually help me with questions and didn't ignore me, and didn't speak rudely are all gone. Every last one. Fuck. Should I ask to go with the other nice coworkers while I still can, even though they're learning a tool that's for a role I'm not interested in?

No. 2253574

>>2251772
Do you have connections? I feel like connections are make-or-break in practically every industry unless you're okay with settling for very entry-level or part time work. I applied to 40 jobs before I finally got a job offer, and every time I tell someone they just say, "Wow, only 40? Nice!" LinkedIn and similar platforms feel particularly useless, like you may as well just be throwing your application into a void. It's hard not to become a doomer trying to apply for jobs right now. I'm way overqualified for the position I settled for, but it honestly takes the pressure off to find something ASAP now that I at least have a little bit of money coming in. Good luck nona, stay strong. I really hope you find something.

No. 2254077

Am I being unintentionally sabotaged? I got a job last year taking over the position of a woman going on maternity leave. I was very new to this job, but I had one skill they really wanted and so this woman spent her remaining month on the job teaching me as much as possible. She was a great teacher, and when she went on maternity leave I managed to keep numbers up and improve our earnings while she was away. She recently came back and got a new position where her job is to advice me and others in my position on what to do to earn more money. Ever since she came back and I've followed her advice, numbers have just gone down. She constantly sends me things to do and test. When I was on my own I would test things at a much slower rate and keep careful track of everything, and I feel like I can't argue with her on this because she's been regarded as the best in her field at this company for several years. I'm the one getting the blame for numbers going down, despite most of what I've done being things she has told me to do.

No. 2254082

>>2253341
>Should I ask to go with the other nice coworkers while I still can, even though they're learning a tool that's for a role I'm not interested in?
yes, it seems like your worklife is greatly impacted by whos around you so give it a try at least

No. 2254088

>>2254077
disregard what she's doing and stick to what you know. It's a very common phenomenon of "knowledge gatekeeping" where people act like they're helping but they really withhold the good stuff. Or, shes actually trying to help but is just not as good as you.
Keep documentation of how your numbers dropped and will rise again after you switch back to your methods. If you get pressed about it, just be a robot and tell them you do what will bring the best numbers and have proof of documentation.

No. 2254218

My job is physical and I work is sub-zero temps all day, so whenever I have a 2 day holiday (rotating shifts) I get cold.
I hate leisure sickness, and worst of all it's a psychological issue and nothing to do with my body being actually sick. What the fuck!!!

No. 2260883

I hate this specific brand of 60+ year old women in the workplace who are insanely narcissistic and manipulative, lie all the time, try to control everything and treat everyone around them like shit. I have a creature like that as my direct coworker and she pisses me off so much. even when I try to be nice to her she'll just retaliate with a casual barb out of fucking nowhere. like right now she's accusing me of using chatgpt for all my work when I already explained her that I used it to generate some kind of worst example ever and did the exact opposite of it because chatgpt is garbage. this dumb bitch is grossly incompetent and doesn't understand jack shit about computers, the Internet, even our office coffee machine, but she thinks she's the hottest bitch in this office. I just don't understand why these old women are so fucking vile all the time.

No. 2260890

I work 6 days a week. I want to work 5 days a week. I am the best performing employee out of three (it's a fact). Boss relies on me the most. How to ask to work 5 days instwad of 6?
CAN work with the shifts we have. Temporary contract ends in january so i plan on asking at the beginning of december, so "they have time to look for someone else if my request cant be met" (it can, they want to keep me).

What is the best way for me to ask this so i can be 100% sure they'll say yes?

No. 2260896

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I really recommend traffic control to anyone having a hard time searching for a job. Depending on where you live, its a short two day course thats open book. I started when I was 19 and now I'm 23 and make a living wage. Boring at times and demanding at others- you mainly work M-F from 7-3pm. Its a great job if you can stand and pays better than cashier/fast food. I really recommend it. I don't mind answering any questions anyone has. Good luck job hunting nonnies.

No. 2261136

TW: advice seeking kek

hi wise anons! I recently accepted a formal written offer for a new position that I would say is 70% relevant to my experience & skillset. I haven't signed a contract or received a start date yet (this is not a concern, my industry has a notoriously slow onboarding process).
this is a "new" department being operated by a reputable company. I am still subscribed to job alerts in my field, and saw that the same employer/department is hiring for a job that is 99% within my expertise; being my old position title and all.
my question is this:
given that it's a pilot program to begin with, the more recent posting is more in line with my past roles, and I haven't officially signed on yet … would it be bad if I emailed my hiring contact/manager and asked about the other job? part of me feels like they would have offered me that role instead of they wanted to; but also I expect they're quite busy & disorganized at the moment. what do? AFAIK there's no wage difference, but I know myself & I am afraid I would not be able to "stay in my lane" as "role A" working closely with "role B". should I just shut up and deal or ask them about the other posting? ahh

No. 2261143

>>2260896
I need to find a new gig. I live in a decently populated area of nothern virginia, so this sounds interesting.

No. 2261150

which websites do you go if you want to get a completely remote job that doesn't chain you to one place? i used to do work from home jobs, but i had to be hooked up to an ethernet connection and we were told that we could not go to a different state or country because it was against company policy. i want a truly digital nomad friendly job where the company either encourages or just doesn't care if you travel while you work with them. thanks.

No. 2261161

>>2261150
not sure what continent you're in obviously (or what your feelings on AI are) but in my area there are tons of places hiring for AI proofreading, training, etc. it's essentially contract work so I doubt they'd care where you completed tasks from as you only get paid for what you submit. maybe you could look up ai stuff in your area?

the other anon made traffic controlling sound pretty fucking good also kek

No. 2261205

>>2261161
i'm from the united states. i mean truthfully AI feels morally wrong when it comes to the generating images thing because of the revenge porn that scrotes do to the women and even children that never asked to have their faces plastered on the AI images. and i don't believe that AI should replace hardworking artists who are trying to pay the bills with their own craft. but eh, i guess i could proofread AI slop since i enjoy editing people's work for fun. i don't know, i feel torn tbh.

the work from home jobs i've done were within the medical insurance industry, but with trump's win, i don't know how the job market there is going to react. the affordable care act being taken away surely means people would rather be without insurance than with it since its going to be very expensive, right?

but yea i just need websites that posts legitimate remote positions that aren't strict with the location part. thanks for the suggestions though!

No. 2261340

>>2261205
NAYRT But I can see why you do not have a job and are actively seeking one with 0 responsibility or accountability. Grow up.

No. 2261365

>>2261340
what are you talking about

No. 2261467

>>2260890
Disclaimer, I'm no expert. I recommend being dominant and just saying you'll do 5 days a week. Act confident, like you can just leave for another company.

No. 2261600

>>2261467
Thank u!! Will do it!

No. 2265595

I'm sick of my job so I plan on quitting in April 2026 to save more money and negotiate so I can earn unemployment after staying for so long in this shitty company. I've been thinking about how I want to travel to destinations that can be expensive first so quitting now isn't a good idea even if I saved a lot of money by living with my parents. My company gives a yearly bonus every March so I want to get the ones for next year and the year after before leaving, some of my former coworkers got fucked over by leaving too soon to get their bonus and I'd like to avoid that. I'm not even worried about not being able to find another job later because I feel like I'll have a mental breakdown if I don't take a break at some point.

No. 2265912

I spent 6 months searching for a training program, applying to various schools/e-learning courses etc., doing tests and i finally found a decent one. Turns out the state org that is supposed to see through the process randomly changed some minute bureaucratic detail, which completely threw off my efforts, leaving me with nothing and back to NEETdom. I fucking hate bureaucracy. I hate that an irrelevant thing can just fuck everything up. I hate that i was so hyped up for my re-entry in the workforce, in a white collar job, too (i've only been in manual jobs so far). I still find this pill hard to swallow (it's been 1 month) and i've been putting off my job/training search out of frustration and lack of options (most courses have started now). I have to see my job center worker in a week and i don't what i'll tell him. I feel useless, directionless. I was considering going back to university in a field that really interests me but i went for the fast track to employment route, and for what? Nothing.

No. 2265930

>>2265912
Painfully accurate description of grinding into nothingness. I hope it works out for you. The only thing to keep in mind is, if you pursue a decision that is mid to long term, in couple years once you have reached your goal, the world already turned couple times too.
Small steps I guess.

No. 2265974

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Any programmer nonas who work with freelance here? I'm trying to get into freelance work as someone who has a few years of work experience already.

Where do you go to look for work? What are the interviews like? What's the work like?

No. 2266012

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I'm currently a para at an elementary school and I want to be a social studies teacher as that is my degree, but I'm so afraid I'll be stuck in special education because of my experience and I'm scared. I have to wait until close to Summer to apply for teaching jobs but fuck I'm tired of this. Elementary is not for me.

No. 2266018

>>2265974
BE with a touch of FE development nonnie here.
It's a bad time to be a freelancer, everyone I know who is contracting is getting let go. If you aren't working in AI, goodbye
>Where do you go to look for work?
Linkedin or networking events my uni organizes.
>What are the interviews like?
A lot of rounds of BS. I interviewed for h*spt and it was 9 rounds of BS plus a project. 3 in person, the rest were calls. Fuck off
>What's the work like?
Where I am right now it's pretty chill but if things go wrong it's all hands on deck. Being on call sucks but I get paid extra. I've worked in places where the jira tickets you pass are tied to you bonus. Never again.
I'm in fintech and it's pretty stable, but you know who knows

No. 2266167

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I always feel like my success, or however remotely close I've gotten to 'success' at least, always feels like a stack of dominoes that's ready to fall over. I hate working in the U.S. because I feel like there is literally 0 job security outside of jobs in education or government here (Technically I'm a government contractor but I don't know if that makes things better or not). That's a big reason why I'm looking to work in another country. I don't care about making alot of money and I never will. I don't care about working in something interesting and that I have a "passion" for either. I just care about not being poor and not being sacked. Two things that are a constant existential threat for you in this country unless you're a cushy government employee. Ugh. I've worked so hard and gotten so much luck to get to where I am. What's the point if I still can't have some kind of security and still feel like I have the threat of having to move back to psycho mother's house looming over me daily?

No. 2266780

>>2265595
You know what? I just woke up and checked my email and one client pissed me off so much I'm considering quitting next summer. I'm mad as hell right now.

No. 2266851

>>2265930
Thank you for these words nona!! I got a training offer just this morning, i'm surprised but glad that i'm out of this slump. I felt so emo typing these words kekk

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No. 2269079

Does it sound like a bad idea for someone to go into a caring profession that they have heavy emotional baggage in? I’m 100% set on social work but am now mulling over specializations. I have had many painful experiences at the hands of mental health providers and painful memories having to do with child welfare. At first I thought these fields would be perfect for me because I felt passionate about doing things right and providing better care for people who need it than the care I received. But on the other hand, I’m starting to wonder if working every day with themes that remind me of the worst times of my life isn’t the smartest idea and that I should close that chapter completely and focus on providing care in environments that wouldn’t be as emotionally charged for me.

I’m confused because it seems to be quite common for people to feel fulfilled working in care professions related to their trauma. But I also heard that it’s common for a lot of them to burn out quickly.



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