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No. 1962884
Post about your employment status, successes, woes, anxieties, rants, etc.
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>>>/ot/1801622Quoting bc post is in another thread:
>i work as a software developer and i hate coding. it’s so repetitive and tedious and i suck at it. i feel too stupid to have this job. i feel like i spend all day asking for help from my colleagues. i regret getting a compsci degree i want to rip my hair out godHow long have you worked as a software dev? It does get easier, though it doesn't really get better imo.
I'm past the painful "overreliance on others" phase, but I still constantly feel like I'm forcing myself to do something that I have no natural aptitude for. It's difficult for me not to feel extremely regretful, even though I'm really lucky that I'm able to perform my job satisfactorily well, that I get paid a decent amount and don't work long hours, and that I get to be fully remote.
I actually switched to CS on a bit of a whim after working in medicine a bit and realizing that I did not want to put myself through the rigor of med school just so I could be trapped in a high-responsibility and high-stress career by a mountain of debt. I ended up finding my CS degree substantially more emotionally taxing than doing a bio degree with pre-med stuff, but I chalked this up to the fact that my school's CS program was considered very good while the bio one was just middling. I imagined
deluded myself into thinking that working at a corporation would be somewhat chill, and that I just had to make it through school, and I'd be alright. Working isn't quite as intense as school was, but the deadlines are never-ending, my least favorite parts of doing the degree are now my job, my coworkers are all male and are either afraid to interact with me or subtly flirtatious, and I now have to deal with a bunch of corporate nonsense.
You're always "learning," but this isn't usually learning about computer architecture, infrastructure, or programming languages. You're learning only as much of the cool and generally useful stuff as you need to scrape by while you instead dedicate most of your workweek and energy to memorizing the details of a sprawling, complex, and impossibly shitty machine cobbled together by people who often are even more confused and retarded than you are. And when that piece of shit has problems (and it constantly has problems), you are the authority on it, and you have to grit your teeth and take ownership of it and prostrate yourself before upset coworkers, even when you're given 0 resources to improve it. This shit seriously makes me feel like I am wasting my life.
I'm really not sure how long I want to stick it out. I'm not happy, and I feel like I am just not very naturally oriented towards tech and programming. I can do it just fine, but it requires immense effort on my part, and I feel like I'm a square peg forcing myself into a round hole, shredding off my corners every day by coming up with 1,000 coping strategies to get myself to be able to focus on work that I quite frankly find boring, exhausting, meaningless, and somewhat stressful.
Yet despite my struggles, the pay and QoL disparity between tech and everything else is so massive that I can't imagine that switching to a career in something like medicine would make me appreciably happier. I currently spend my workday being miserable, and I can't work on any personal projects, but at least I have the physical energy to cook and do chores. I don't have to waste a ton of time with a commute. I don't get that much time off, but I don't have to worry about getting my shift covered or anything. And I make more money than most people my age could dream of. (Unfortunately, it's not so much that I could both own a house and retire early, and I can't use it to travel any time soon because I can't afford a gap in my resume in this hyper-competitive job market.)
I feel like I'm in limbo and waiting for it to get better, for me to be able to reclaim the confidence and free time that I had when I was in college doing pre-med. But I don't see any clear path that would make it better, besides lucking out with one of those remote jobs where you do hardly any work. I feel so shitty and entitled for not being happy with what I have, but I am so frustrated that I have worked so hard, and I feel like
this is the best life I can feasibly get.
This turned into quite the rant, but yeah. I'm sure some anons can commiserate.
No. 1964059
>>1963994Just started a new tech job (
>>1961390 ) and I feel the same way, roughly. Except I'm the sole tech hire, I'm working on everything alone, my set up is weird because I have to speak to the company we outsource hell desk work to if I want to install anything (and they're retarded and difficult), etc. etc. etc. but the pay is great. My boss is cool. I get my own office, benefits are amazing, etc. etc. I could go on and on.
No. 1964408
>>1962941YES.
If you're thinking of going to undergrad for CS then the problem will probably clear by the time you graduate. If you're looking into doing a boot camp or a career path that isn't related to programming, project management, or possibly UX design then forget it. Even experienced workers are having trouble finding jobs right now and new grads are screwed.
No. 1964601
I know this is a long shot.. but are there any fields/jobs that earn above average incomes and you can learn on your own in your free time or follow paid retraining programs for? What programming used to be like
>>1964539 said I guess. Do blue collar jobs earn better now that everyone is over-educated and there's a shortage for them?
I went to school for my current job and I enjoy it, it's a comfy office job that feels meaningful, it earns me a stable enough living, but I realized I won't be able to make it out of the renting market on a single income in this field. Just wondering what my options are without going back to university full-time which isn't an option.
No. 1965565
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Just started a job today and it's already exhausting. I feel poorly trained, and I am standing all day as a cashier. I dont mind that part of the job, but I am brand new to this system and don't know how the cafeteria food in this building works. So I have to ring people out for the correct amount or I can accidently over or under charge them. Like my trainer was nice, but she felt too busy to properly train me. I am hoping I am over thinking this, since it was day 1.
I have to be there at 6am, which sucks a lot. Other than that, the job itself isnt the worst. However, they have a ZERO PHONE policy, where I have to leave my phone in my car. I cant even bring it inside the building. The other locker that i put it in is half a block away and so for lunch, I either get to eat or spend the time running to get my phone from 2 buildings away.
I'm not gonna lie, nonnies, I am already dreading the rest of the week. I dont mind not using my phone for work, but to not even be allowed to have it in the same building i am in?? It's a little too much for under $18 an hour…
No. 1966042
>>1965565If you have your lunch outside you can just put your phone in your bag, in a small pouch if neccesary, what are they going to do, search your bag like it's an airport?
Anyway look for something better while you work this job. I worked in administration for a while when I didn't have any qualifications and felt over and done with slaving away at manual labour jobs, might be worth looking into if you want to get something that's more comfy.
No. 1966182
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ive been trying to get internships or a job now that im about to graduate and ive had very little luck every application is just getting sent into the aether. This job that seemed promising is now ghosting me. I dont think i have too shitty of a resume for a new grad. I have a bit of experience and a few certifications. this is so ass
No. 1966457
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Is learning javascript programming going to be worth it?
On one hand I'm good at basic computer shit and love autistic tedious tasks; and it seems fun so far.
But the other hand is that I'm nervous about how people say Computer science is a saturated field. The outsourcing as well as the new AI shit doesn't help either, as well as the mass lay offs.
All I want is a basic bitch office job but I feel like the only ones open are front desk receptionist and dealing with customers already sucks (especially boomers, its always older people throwing massive shit fits- I don't even think I met a karen/kevin who's under 40 years old).
Also during interviews, people suggest to lie about diversity so that you can get hired more easily. But I'm also seeing people say that they don't hire people with they/them pronouns and openly say that companies find them too hostile for the work environment. Everything is polarized and I don't know wtf the reality is anymore.
No. 1966509
>>1966042I'm tempted to bring a bag with my phone but they are a high security place and I'm worried they'll fire me if I use my phone on site. It's insane since I have to use my ID to go through a scanner. I'm worried the scanner will pick up the phone and then I'll get in trouble. They have a super strict no phone policy for every single person that works there. It's definitely easier to find a new job at this point.
I timed myself today at lunch and it takes 5 mins to run to the first builder to get my phone from my locker, so I can only use it on lunch, not even break. Not even subtracting the minutes I spend getting to the time clock area, which is at the back of the kitchen. Place is wild. When will they learn taking away people's phones is really unreasonable? I dont even work in the security dept, just the cafeteria.
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Nonnas my field finally has 3 spots open after waiting more than 6 months for an opening! If I don't get a spot I'll probably sign up for the navy or something.
>>1966503I used chatGPT to clean up my CV by ordering it to make certain sections sound smarter. It just another tool that provides you with support and answers, as long as you know what to ask.
No. 1967904
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What kind of job can I do if I have no degree and no real skills?
I did a lot of random shit over the last 15 years. Administration, book keeping, logistics, tech support, retail etc.. I also finished a few tech related courses but I'm still so new I can't apply as dev + there are absolutely 0 tech jobs where I am and moving isn't an option.
I feel completely lost because I wanted to go into tech but the market is so oversaturated and compared to someone with a degree no one would hire me. People keep telling me to get out of the country because I can speak multiple languages but what's the point if I have no skills?
No. 1968533
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I periodically have to remind myself that my boss isn't my friend, and my "work friends" aren't my friends either. This isn't to say that I've been trauma dumping or open book-ing at work or anything, it's more I've been letting myself get very stressed out over acts I parse as "betrayal" or "unfair assignments from someone I thought to be a great manager who considered my time and emotional stability (lol)." And, logically speaking, they are good managers – these are objectively the best bosses I've had thus far – they just aren't my pals and don't otherwise have my good interest at heart past ensuring I can turn them a profit. And I mean, they do, but if they feel they can push me and I won't quite snap they will.
I'm not mad, I'm just processing. I'm really unused to the (proper) corpo world so it's jarring to run into these situations. If any of this makes sense or even gets read by anyone else do general vents about work even go here? Should I have posted in vent?.
I can't wait until Friday. Hopefully Thursday goes by in a blur and Friday follows suit. Everyone does fuck-all on Fridays here.
No. 1968591
>>1968533I feel the same way. I have a hard time navigating the whole thing, as I get rather paranoid about the whole dynamic. I get along with and have shared interests with my boss, but he's kind of a weird guy and it's very hard for me to tell what he's thinking.
He often proposes that me, him, and another coworker play video games together in our free time, and I don't know what to make of it. I really don't want to be cynical about it, and on one hand I'm not, but I feel myself get way more emotionally attached than I'm comfortable with if I assume that he really just wants to foster relationships on my (admittedly very asocial) team. So in a way, it's easier for me to think that he's just approaching teambuilding in a manipulative but benign table-tennis-in-the-lunchroom way, but that just causes me to build resentment towards him and the general fakeness of corporate culture. However, we do have some good and genuine conversations, so it's hard for me not to run a little wild with that and want to open up and be understood by him, as mutual understanding and really getting to know a person is something that I value a ton, personally.
Ugh. I've gotten decently good at maintaining a certain distance, but I find doing it extremely emotionally unsatisfying. My bf has great, actual friendships with his coworkers, including his boss, and I'm so envious.
Also, I'm glad you posted here. No hate towards the job-seekers, but I mostly come here to try to get a feel for how people similar to myself are adjusting to entering the workforce full-time. No. 1969280
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Has anyone made a move on a someone at work that you don’t work with (and don’t even know the name of)? How do you do it?
No. 1981785
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I'm fucking done with retarded corpo shit. Ever since I worked in a call center I just can't deal with the fakness that comes with a corporate setting, everyone is just smiling and lying. My fuse has become too short for this shit but I still have to interview with HR morons that are the same if I want to get a job anywhere.
The most recent stupid thing that happened in my job search:
>IT specialist job ad
>find out during the interview none of the work I'd do would be even remotely IT related
Why waste everyone's time like this? Just write you're looking for a fucking secretary or some shit oh my god. I wish I was actually skilled enough to be able to directly tell these people to go fuck themselves.
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it finally happened! i quit my hotel job in January because it was abusive as hell, and ive finally been able to pull my old work bestie away from there as well and she has a may 7 start date at my current place! she's texting me about everyone's reactions to her leaving and its like i get to vicariously quit the hotel all over again through her. that place has pushed out all of its decent workers in the past year because anyone pulling their weight makes the managers feel bad about themselves. im so glad to have "rescued" her from there so now i can really say fuck that place w/o feeling guilty
No. 1984949
>>1983403Congrats nonna! I'm so happy that you two get to work together again. You won.
>>1969280Don't. People still talk.
No. 1985015
>>1984953Yes. It's a fine job. Bottle/shot bars are the easiest. Learning how to mix a cocktail or pretending to care about craft beer or wine isn't that hard either. It's one of those jobs where if you learn how to do it right you naturally get fast at doing the work, but if you rush while you're learning you'll fuck up a lot later. Remember that every little bit of booze adds up at a bar and it all equals money; over-pouring will make your boss hate you and upselling will make your boss like you.
Hours are bad, not good for your health. Do not under any circumstance get in the habit of having drinks with coworkers after your shift is over, that is how you piss away all your money. Drinking after work will also destroy your sleep hygiene. People working in F&B disproportionately have drug and alcohol problems, it's not a baseless stereotype, do not pick up a coke habit or anything retarded.
Ask the existing staff how tips work before you step on toes. There might be a tip splitting system or a tipout system for bar-backs, dishwashers, servers, etc. Find out. You could be owed tips from servers for pouring/mixing drinks for their tables, you want to know that sort of thing.
No. 1985084
>>1985015You are amazing, thank you
nonnie. I appreciate you!
No. 1985321
>>1985291assuming you're talking about IT, I got an associate's and ended up needing to get A+ certification anyways even though my degree taught me far beyond that level. It's a hard requirement for most entry-level jobs (and yes, even with degree only the most basic entry jobs would take me without experience). Also I've been told many times that years of working help desk trumps a degree or certs every time in this field, basically only reason to get a degree is because some schools are partnered with companies that scout new hires from the graduates.
For my school, that was an AI company who made you take specific AI classes for a job and I don't want to work with AI so it was basically useless Finish your degree since you're already doing it and it won't hurt, but if I could do it all over I'd get A+, maybe Net+ or Security+, practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCs so I have something to put on the resume, and then start looking for a super entry level tech support job. Easier said than done since getting hired with no experience is hell, but doesn't that go for all fields? Also if your school has an IT or programming club join that, recruiters love that stuff. I don't think getting a degree helped at all tbh and spending that time working would've done more for me.
No. 1985331
>>1985321Thank you I shall take your words to heart
>practice setting up a server/homelab project or fixing broken PCsThat's already my hobby 24/7 kek so I wouldn't have trouble there
Gonna sound nitpicky but my biggest filter for me is all the really specific details like what voltage on your laser printer balls or whatever other nonsense.
I know why they question it, it's just annoying to memorize but that's another issue entirely outside of getting certs
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I hate how long getting a job actually takes. 1 month of waiting for them to close the application window, weeks for them to read everything, more weeks or potentially months for them to respond and set up an interview and then waiting for vetting to clear, all while you're jobless.
>>1985352I think it depends on the job and how clean/healthy you look. Clean and moisturised nails, tidy hair and fitting clothing should look professional enough, but tinted lip balm and neat eyebrows will elevate it.
No. 1986087
>>1985685NTA but all call centres are soul sucking. Outbound call centres are their own special circle of hell, but inbound ones aren't great either. You always get customers calling to bitch about their order because one item is two shades off what they saw online or complain that they have defective internet because they can't connect their books to their Kindle. You get customers threatening suicide to see if they can get away with not paying bills. You get retards who rant at you because they dialed the wrong number and it's your fault somehow. It's doable if you don't give a shit but it does get to you.
Outbound call centres, not even once.
No. 1986153
>>1966457A bit of a late response but in my experience there will always be work for people who can actually code and can communicate well. There's so many turboautists and morons who try to use ChatGPT for everything polluting the candidate pool and that's why it seems like the field is saturated. My company's had a tech position open for years and had probably hundreds of candidates apply but most of them are filtered out by the most basic of programming tests or can't control their autism enough to pass an interview if they do succeed.
My company wouldn't hire a they/them in a thousand years but we're a small business. A large business might have drunk the Kool-Aid and pick up a they/them diversity hire. It probably depends who you're applying to.
No. 1986155
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Ugh, all the signs of targeted layoffs have hit my org. The chances that I'd be cut are slim but I also wouldn't be totally shocked if the entire org were wiped out. Tech needs to stop shitting the bed.
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i accidentally missed one of my shifts cause i read my schedule wrong now as punishment my job isn’t going to be scheduling me. i’ve never missed a day of work, i always show up on time etc i feel like this is a little outrageous of a “punishment” i know my manager doesn’t really like me but do any nonas have similar experiences? i work at a retail mall clothing store so it might be different
No. 1988026
>>1985685I had to do inbound for a couple years at my medical office job, until calls were redirected to an actual call center because the number of them was overwhelming. It is hell, people are very mentally unhinged in any job where you work with the public in person too but they act out way more on the phone. I had to hang up some calls because they were so mental. You also get a lot of people who think you have all the time in the world trauma dumping on you while you're running on a clock. This doesn't happen as frequently in person because they feel the pressure of everyone else waiting in line and staring, but on call they can't feel it so they dc.
It gave me phone anxiety and I seriously don't miss it, I can't imagine outbound or doing sales. I'd probably crumple up and die.
No. 1994178
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Nonas i think i'm going insane, i need to leave my ghost city but i need to find a job to save money to do it.
The issue is that this place has nothing but family owned supermarkets and bars, there are some private doctors, saloons, one weird doorknob shop, one tailoring shop, some schools, some flower shops, even the hospital is failing even though i'm supposed to live in an important city.
It's a complete ghost town, any shop that opens closes, everytime i could find a job was somewhere out but i couldn't keep up with it because the train and bus services suck here.
I'd appreciate any tip but i'm really considering just looking for something online but i'm not sure what i have to look for, i thought that maybe after covid there would be more things like that but is it possible to get something stable out of it? I like to draw in my part time but i really want to keep that for other projects i have and not commissions.
I feel so awful, i've moved here since i was a kid and not even my mother could find a job here, my father worked in another city but ofc he had to leave my family.
No. 1994201
>>1994178I recommend getting an online job to save up some money. Commissions can be good, but you would only be drawing the most degenerate porn so keep that in mind. It would be better to get something in customer service and save up a little money, then you can move to a big city and get an in person job.
Once you get to the big city, hotels are an easy starter job, but nursing homes normally also need people to make beds and bring the patients snacks. Worst case scenario, fast food is always hiring. You'll have to start out with several roommates (try to shoot for only female roommates), but as things get better and you get a better job, you'll make money and be able to move to better neighborhoods.
No. 1994420
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I have an interview for an internship at a museum, my coworkers are already talking like I've bagged it but if I don't get this it will crush my soul
No. 1994924
We received an update status on the company two days ago, because our department couldn't attend the meeting three weeks ago (due to illnesses and people's days off, we were only two out of six in our team that work with customers face to face and had to be there to… y'know, do our fecking job).
CEO complains in the status update about staff costs being 2,6 million in our company which my department and colleagues are definitely not seeing the color of with our 18-21k/year salary kek and "really thinking about replacing people who quit to first use the synergies in the teams better" aka give the responsibilities of the person who quit to the next mule in the team that still had their own shit going on and wait until they snap and quit themselves, rince and repeat ad vitam eternam, but is fine with paying a prestige office floor with view over the whole city for almost a quarter million a year in a building that's breaking from the inside out (the old plumbing in the toilet smells of sewers, there are only two elevators out of six that really work, glass/plexiglass panels coating the facade have been falling down and being a hazard in town for the last 15-20 years). And now they're being reluctant to stay in the prestige floor because the company renting the floor raises the price by 42%. Upper management should have seen this coming since 2021 when the real estate prices were way more affordable and already looked at other office buildings to move to.
But nah fam, the real problem is the 2,6-2,7mio in staff costs, of course. Sure.
No. 2001280
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How cringe is it to put "Youtube Content Creator - Self Employed" on a resume?
I've been leaving it out, but the gap that creates looks like absolute trash because Youtube was almost all I did from 2018 to 2021.
The jobs I'm aiming for are just part time ones like data entry/hotel receptionist/waitress, nothing fancy. If the rest of my resume wasn't so fucked I wouldn't even be stressing about this as much as I am, but alas, it is.
The thing is, I can easily spin what my channel was about to sound good, but if anyone asks for its name I'm fucked kek. The videos really weren't professional, and I feel like being a full time Youtube content creator is unusual enough for the interviewers to comment on it and want to know more. I learned many valuable skills from it though, and the videos took a lot of work, so I'm leaning towards including it. It's not like I was unemployed during that time.
What do you workfag nonnies think? Leave it out? Include it? Kill myself? I just don't know.
No. 2001302
>>2001280I think it would only work out if you were willing to link to your YouTube channel and if you were clearly putting out well-made content at a decent rate. It's OK if it doesn't have many views, but it should feel like it clearly has appeal to some audience and it should not feel immature.
It would still turn a lot of employers off, but it's also a great hook for hiring managers that value having interesting people to work with that can clearly self-motivate.
No. 2001345
>>2001291I'm worried they'd think I was an e-whore if I made it sound really vague kek. At least with a monetized Youtube channel it's clear that my videos were normal enough for ads to play on them, you know?
>>2001292>>2001294Hmm. Producer sounds pretty good. Or maybe Internet/Content Marketer or something…? Thanks for the suggestions, it sounds a lot less cringe than Content Creator.
>>2001302I got a good amount of views back then, which is why I used it as my main source of income for some time. Unfortunately the content was immature lol, so the thought of an employer watching it makes me want to die of embarrassment. I started the channel when I was in my early 20s and still kind of retarded, and I can't really delete any of the older vids because those are the ones with the most views.
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Has anyone here switched fields successfully? How did you do it and how much time did it take? Also, which field did you go into?
No. 2002427
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I want to get a second degree and change careers, so nonnas employed in these areas:
- Anthropology
- Philosophy
- Art/art studies/whatever it is that americans call it
- Psychology
What is your actual job? How related is it to your degree? Do you like it?
No. 2002487
One of my colleagues is obsessed with chatGPT, he bought a subsciption to like the most recently released, non-public version and makes it do his job. He's also "learning programming" in one of the classes he's taking for a programme our organization put him into, and by learning I mean he feeds their home works and class assignments into ChatGPT and gives it back. He's always excitedly telling me what "he" managed to do with the help of ChatGPT, by prompting it for like 4-5 work hours because I'm known to fuck around with scripting some of my tasks, obviously it's some very sub-amateur shit I do for fun.
He's always beaming with pride and I don't want any workplace conflict, but I don't know how he can pretend he learned anything or that he's gaining any skills when he doesn't modify any code himself, he just prods this AI for hours until it can produce a passable result. I've used openAI to mine some texts, so it's not like I'm an absolute luddite, but this shit seems ridiculous, and I don't know how can he not see he's only hurting his own competence by letting this AI-assisant do all of the "thinking". Is this really the future? Will people just not do any studying because they trust the AI will be able to do it? It's fucking bleak and I want to slap this guy
No. 2002501
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I just found out that my job ends at the end of the month. Is it bad if I feel bitter towards the people who decided I should be fired? I’m a contract worker who was told from the start that it would evolve into a full-time offer due to a hiring freeze. Then the VP in charge got fired and replaced, and now the new VP & CFO said that all contractors have to be terminated at the end of the month. The funny thing is that this only came into question because my director tried asking her if I could be brought on full-time yet. Thank god I have another job already lined up at a way bigger company with way more growth opportunities and it’s lining up perfectly so I won’t be unemployed. Still feels like shit because I was really excited for this lady to replace the old VP, only for her to ultimately fire me.
No. 2002814
>>2002586I have nothing to contribute other than to say imagining one of my middle or highschool teachers saying
>loser dead midget faggot rappermade me kek
No. 2003454
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Does anyone know about business fraud, or could ask someone who does? I'm seriously considering sending in an anonymous IRS snitch form about my current work. It's a 501c3 college.
tl;dr
>last year we lost a ton of support staff and most are now assuming an accreditation issue started in October due to other issues
>my boss suddenly quit
>boss was necessary staff, mid-semester, it's a mess
>administration hires a new lady
>full-time job, great, we just need someone
>Oh no she's a massive bitch
>she's 8 months pregnant
>immediately leaves in November for maternity leave saying she'll be back in February
>she never came back
>good riddance
>we sincerely thought she quit
>in the meantime we got a temp boss
>she's great, may as well full-time her because other bitch isn't showing up
>turns out our departments are bullying my temp boss threatening that the full-time lady will show up
>also turns out the full-timer was hired on immediately, no temping, and has been collecting maternity leave money and a salary this entire time
>she has been completely AWOL unless she's exclusively talking to people above my head, which isn't a huge group
>that position is supposed to schedule hours for me and a few others, and she's done none of that, temp boss and another temp have been doing it, which has honestly been good
>last thing full-time lady ever asked me to do was double-booking me for 2 shifts and not paying for 2x the hours
>I just found out about the full-time pay yesterday
Other semi-related issue is one of the upper managers let slip that their employment is "an arrangement" because they're full-time elsewhere. They're paid benefits and full-time salary while not feasibly working those hours at the school. I'm less familiar with that one though since it's possible they're massively overworked, which is another problem by itself.
Is this considered kickbacks? Is it legal at all? Another similar school went under a few years ago for shit like this and there seem to be ongoing issues at the top, so if I did anything it won't overshadow their current circus. I'm already in the process of leaving this job, and nobody here was a reference, so I have nothing to lose, but I do have more info access than I should. There's a mess of other problems but this was the most transparent money-related one I've seen.
No. 2004648
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I hate trying to find a job in this shit hole. I've got nothing against immigration (my parents are immigrants themselves), but the sheer amount of them has made it impossible to find work. You've got lines around the block just for a chance to work at a liquor store. What the hell am I even going to do? I can't possibly compete with that many people. I hate living here.
No. 2004659
I posted this in the vent thread but it's relevent here.
A guy from my old job has been nominated for a national award based on work I did!!!
I cant fucking believe it, he was the team leader I was deputy for a side project at work, I did all of the work because he didnt give a shit. I set the whole fucking team up. I managed everthing. I did everyone elses work as noone else cared. I set up the events. I made the connections, partnerships, relationships with outside parties that was needed. I set up lot's of template files, wrote instructions to carry it on after I left as I didnt want it to collapse. I bumped into an old collegue today and ask if he knew if my old side project was still running, and he fucking tells me the guy is nominated for a national award FOR MY FUCKING WORK!!!!!!!!! ITS FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!!!
There is fuck all I can do about it! I hope he doesn't win.
Nonnas learn from this never ever set others up to succeed, when you leave a job or when you are at a job don;t leave instructions, don;t leave templates, don't do or leave anything that can help others, delete everything.
No. 2004745
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Both of my applications for a company went from "under consideration" to "submitted" after 20 days of waiting, and I have no idea if that's good or bad.
No. 2004995
>>2004863I dont think so he would have been nominated by my old office so the award organisation would have no idea.
The proof would be on my old offices system and they would be unlikely to care as it looks good for them to have him nominated especially if he wins so they would probably cover for him if they knew.
No. 2005323
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>coworker offered to let me rent in the in-law apartment at their family's house
>need a place closer to my jobs and they've helped me out at work so it didn't sound too bad
>told me today that they found pics of me/my college graduation info online and texted it to their brother because they want to introduce me to him
>2nd coworker overhears this, tells me it'd be a good thing for me and starts asking the other coworker about how much money he has and what his job history
why do people have to be like this, what the fuck
No. 2005397
>>2004961>>2005038Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Just got back from my shift. Anons, I don't know what I got myself into. This really should be illegal.
>I'm not sure it's even legal? Where do you work? In a tourist trap in Europe. And as a receptionist in a camp. There's different type of units one can rent (pitches and mobile houses) and different type of services and different type of clients. This place has such convoluted ways to do things that should be simple let alone when any level of complexity is involved. The program we use is ancient, laggy and sometimes it doesn't record something properly so we have to double check everything. I barely got the hang of basics so the fact that I'm already on my own albeit with occasional help from my busy colleagues scares me. Learning through trial and error is fine if there's not a pay-deducting rule enforced. They can't have it both ways, barely train someone and then expect them to pay for their mistakes that are 100% going to happen. The stress simply isn't worth it. Plus there are other insane rules like not being allowed to sit for some reason which hurts when you're supposed to work 8 hours per day, six days per week. Standing when there are guests at the desk is reasonable. If they told me any of this before signing the contract I would have bailed out. As it currently stands I will be looking for other jobs from now on, but come next month, I will be resigning either way. The stakes are too high especially since "mistakes" can easily get into 300-400 euro range.
No. 2005658
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I think I had the worst vet tech week ever.
>working at an animal shelter for 5 years as the head and only licensed tech>Worked the place up from a literal illegal drug den shit hole to something a city could be proud ofanywho
>vet tech week rolls around>for the first time ever, board actually recognizes VT week and gets us food>on my clocked out lunch, the board corners me while I try to eat to ask me about a controversial topic in the shelter>baited.jpeg>take a neutral position because I could get fired by manager, assistant manager or by the board, all of whom have different views>very next day, get word that I'm being demoted, the yearly raise that everyone had gotten for 5 years is being taken away from me, and that my position and my accumulated raises are given to an unlicensed heroin addicted moid who was still greenI was basically forced to quit. They wouldn't fire me because then their unemployment insurance may increase, so instead they threaten my career.
I still put in my 2 weeks but the shit I had to do to animals in that time will forever haunt me. I was absolutely berated in those few weeks, I was treated like trash, I was publicly humiliated both in front of coworkers and peers and the general public. I loved shelter work, I like vet med, but I haven't done either since I left. I haven't done fucking anything besides putter around some remote jobs for a few weeks. I would rather be homeless than go to work again. What is wrong with me.
>>2003454I've worked in the non-profit sector almost my whole life. In my experience, most 501c3's are doing something sketchy, if not total money laundering through smurfing or shell companies. Yours is def on the sketchy side. I would look into different ways people can use non profits to make money 'clean', see if there's any nepotism with this upper management, and keep an eye out for things like asking specifically for small donations or large donations in cash, which are easier to hide from the IRS. A big red flag for me is if you have board members or big donors from all over the world, IF your non-profit isn't hugely popular or largely international. Let me know what you find if you can safely,
nonnie. I find that type of stuff interesting.
No. 2005718
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>>2005658AYRT, hilariously good timing.
Temp boss gave me the dirt the other day - we're being audited. We figured something was going on with ongoing staffing issues, EVERY new person being a spouse or personal friend to our chair, and people suddenly jumping ship a few months ago. Our theory is my last boss who bailed tipped off either an accreditation board or the IRS. Our controller and basically everyone managing accreditation, statistics, and money, disappeared and the positions are open. Maybe 2 months ago, we had people who looked way too official to be here prying about what type of school we were and looking at facilities; I figured they were assessors.
Turns out our department chair got caught using the college fund to pay off his buddies for "faculty dinners" while promising them faculty jobs next year. He has a whole class dedicated to his friends coming in and just bullshitting to the freshmen. The bullshit "full-time" hours came up as well. Someone from a different department has been getting paid but they're refusing to on-board her, she made a huge stink about it on her own and that just set off this wave of shit in the last 2 weeks. I guess there's a state law that requires on-boarding if you are paying someone over a certain amount for services. We just had our timecards partly taken away, now all our event work has had to be reported on-paper instead of online. I'm glossing over a lot of drama but we fucking figured something was going on just from how many cronies started showing up telling us to bill like crazy. Titanic's sinking and these dumbasses are raiding the kitchen.
I'm not very knowledgeable about FERPA but this coincides with federal aid for "classes outside your major" getting rescinded/no longer approved. The place is small but expensive, so this was odd because there aren't really irrelevant classes, per se. It's an art college so unless you're begging to take math 5 times over or some shit, everything is still within the subject you're studying. Thank fuck my last day is tomorrow, this looks eerily similar to how the Art Institute went down.
No. 2007113
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I lied on my job interview about having a driver's license. I don't have a DUI or any criminal record and I have a valid ID card.
In the 2nd screening they want me to either go to the office or a virtual interview; I know that going there physically will increase my chances but should I pick virtual just to be safe from license checking?
My job doesn't even require me to operate a car at any point in time either. All of this won't fuck me in the ass at any point right?
No. 2007213
This is just a rant. I work in a warehouse and recently we got a bunch of young hires. Admittedly the work is tedious, demanding, and hard, but we have a few that stick it out the entire shift and appreciate their hard work. Then there are the rest of them. It feels like I'm in the twilight zone. They refuse to work, refuse to help, and refuse to listen. They'll stand there talking the entire time and if they see one of their fellow employees struggling, will either laugh at them or pretend they don't see it. Things that used to run smoothly are getting congested and backed up because no one wants to do anything, and it's putting a lot of stress on the workers who've been here. I don't know why management doesn't do anything about them, but work has been a lot harder since they've arrived. Yesterday was especially infuriating for me because I got put in charge to "train" two of the new hires, a boy and a girl. Technically, the work is simplistic enough. Pick up box, drop box, do it again. Instead they complained the entire time and when they weren't doing that they were flirting, refused to help at any point, and just kind of watched me work instead. The boy was especially nasty, making snide comments about me saying how he dislikes girls who "aren't feminine." While the girl acted as if she couldn't pick up a box and that I should do it instead. I told them gender has nothing to do with working hard and if you feel that way, maybe you should find another job instead of working here. Unfortunately, our job kind of hires anyone so I'm surrounded by the lowest reaches of society. I'm admittedly only here because I fucked up in my 20s and it was the only place hiring with a decent amount of money. I reported both of them and since they've formed their little groups now, I may end up being public enemy number one, but I've been working this job for months with no problems until these new hires showed up threatening to fuck that all up. I just want to work my job and get my degree finished. At least I'm in college and this job is a means to an end. I made sure to study in something that will ensure I get a job out of college (medical field), so hopefully, I never end up in this position again. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of weight and my body looks really toned and nice. I was surprised looking in the mirror one morning.
No. 2008730
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I work as a part time library associate, while working on my masters in library/information science. My goal is to focus in archives or whatever else lets me stay in the back away from the public and work with history. Well, our small library got a big grant to expand our local archives and create more local history initiatives. That includes a new full time job position all about that, as well as assisting people with digitizing photos or old media formats. The requirements are a masters OR ample experience with working with that stuff. I'm halfway done with my degree, and have helped with small things in the archives off and on already.
The only thing that terrifies me is that it may require me to be social. Like community outreach, planning programs, talking to stakeholders, etc. I'm an introvert, so that may be difficult to get over. Also, I'm a part time worker/part time student right now so if I got it my personal time would be sliced in half. But more hours=more money and all. Plus benefits. I can't really lose by applying. If I don't get it, it'll be status quo. If I do, I'd just have to get out of my comfort zone and be slightly richer for it.
No. 2009290
>>2008758>>2008730omg fellow mls nonnies! my advice is to write your master thesis about something you want to work with and make sure to get as much experience as possible. if you're unable to get a part time job i suggest volunteer work, student conferences etc. you should totally apply for jobs that seem interesting even though they're out of your comfort zone. if it turns out that you hate the job, changing to a more suitable one will be much more manageable as you've gained relevant work experience.
i completed my degree a couple of years ago and in my experience there are way more opportunities with a mls than one is aware of. as a student i was fortunate enough to work as a media archivist and then a library assistant at a uni library. after i graduated i worked full time as a research librarian, but after a uear switched to a corporate archivist job where i work with information & records management. i'm actually pretty outgoing and loved the social aspect of being a librarian kek, but the corp. archivist job pays so much better. the difference is huge, like a 2000€ yearly salary difference.
No. 2009497
>>2008758>>2009290Original MLS nonna here. My degree plan includes information science as well. It applies to so many fields besides just libraries because information is everywhere, so I'm not worried about it being too narrow. It's certainly more helpful for getting a job than my bachelor's in history.
I'm going to apply. It's definitely the closest to my preferred career path and it's not something that comes up often. Plus, I already work at this library so I literally know everyone, the layout, and most of the processes. I have a good relationship with the librarians so I'm sure if I need support I can go to them.
No. 2009605
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i can tell my boss really really really wants me to volunteer for overtime. i'll get paid for it (one of the benefits of being hourly), but i'm not at all keen and i'm also very firm on getting out of the office at 5:00 pm. this friday i had a stroke of luck and managed to solve an issue they were having for years, apparently, in 30 minutes and i don't mean to imply i'm a super genius but these are all boomers who didn't understand how xml worked and also, apparently, could not googlefu a solution as i did kek and my boss was like "oh cool…what are you doing this weekend? maybe we could [do more work on this together even though you've fixed it rather than just take an hour or two on monday which is more than possible]?" and i just told her my ride was here and i really had to go
she's an excellent boss btw, far better than my last 3 bosses, but a boss is a boss and it's all about turning profit. thanks for reading my blog
No. 2010004
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Nonnas, is UX still worth learning? I feel interest towards UX writing, but I believe it would be better to get a good grasp of the whole thing before choosing something to specialize into, right?
I'd like to leave customer service once I finish my degree later this year, but my brain is in a constant cycle between the UX field and copywriting (some aspects of it also interest me) and it's hard to decide when I don't know anyone who has knowledge in those areas.
It also doesn't help I'm an anxious mess and very afraid of investing time and money into courses and ending up regretting my choices. Thanks in advance!
No. 2010099
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I think I'm getting burnout from my job. It kinda sucks because it felt like my first not-retail-wageslave full time job with coworkers who I get along really well with. I was even able to do a modified schedule to fit in college classes, which would have never worked at my old job. A few people I like have left or retired so it's not as amazing as when I first started, and I'm currently doing work for three different positions because of people on maternity leave…it's mentally exhausting. The work/college grind is taking its toll. I'll have the summer off but I'm really torn about leaving or not because I never had such a good work experience up until the last two months.
No. 2011635
>>2005718yup there it is. If you continue in the non-profit sector, you'll see a pattern. It sucks, but it's the only way most non-profits are able to actually help a lot of people, because someone is profiting off of it.
>>2010099Maybe it will get better after summer, assuming they hire some people and those on leave will be back?
>>2007333Unfortunately, company loyalty went out the door when the company began treating workers like expendable cattle. Fuck em. Take care of yourself, because no one else will.
No. 2012629
>>2011772This may have changed since I was in aus but isn’t full time more secure then casual, as in if you’re casual they can fire you with no warning?
>>2012577“I’m happier in the corporate world”, doesn’t really need more explanation, “it’s a better fit” “it suits my lifestyle more” “it was always the direction I saw myself taking” “turns out I’m good at it” “it was the work available when I moved/had a near death experience/finished my last assignment and I really love it so I’d like to continue” “it’s more lucrative” “more advancement opportunity”.
No. 2015297
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I have an interview coming up for a role I've been waiting on for months, and I'm anxious about not getting it, as I've pretty much put everything else aside for it.
It will consist of your basic "are you a psycho" interview and a competency based assessment, so now I'm just revising and searching for tips on potential questions and how to appear more professional.
>>2014076Good luck, I truly do hope you will pass it and be able to tackle anything that comes your way!
No. 2016459
>>2016337Whether or not this is low stress depends entirely on your management and the warehouse. It could be backbreaking and stressful and potentially not even pay that much. I guess she wouldn't interact with customers though.
>>2016316Just an idea but if you live in a city talk to your mailperson about becoming a CCA, they can tell you if the routes involve walking and if the management is terrible. I would not call it low stress to someone who does it as a career, but it can be a real clock-in-clock-out get your steps in type of job and might be less stressful if you're not in it for the long haul. If your city doesn't have walking routes don't do it for exercise, you'll just be driving and lifting heavy packages.
No. 2016698
>>2004648Are you Canadian? I live close to the epicenter of the international student diploma mill problem. I'm an ex-neet student that hasn't worked since 2021, I feel so screwed. I figured immigrants are less likely to take liqour/weed store jobs because their parents tend to disapprove of drug use, but I guess they apply to that shit anyway.
Fuck
No. 2018181
>>2018061I know but it's only now that I realize there's a middle ground between "unemployed artist" and "24/7 workdays and unbearable amounts of stress". When I started my studies I sure didn't, my childhood was unstable so I was possessed into working towards the job that had an 100% employment rate in my country. Now I'm no longer (as much) mentally ill and I'm realizing I was just a traumatized and immature young adult making impulsive decisions and this is my life now.
>>2018149That actually sounds quite nice nonna. I also want to work somewhere small and quiet just dealing with day to day life like stupid parking tickets or a pothole in the road that needs to be filled. One of my family members is a small town judge in Latin America but she deals with awful drug trafficking cases every day even working in family law. I just can't handle any sort of stress, I'm not a confrontational personal at all and I worry so much about every decision I take.
>>2018143Is the pressure coming from your family? Is this a hereditary business thing? If so, maybe it will suck for you in the beginning but afterwards you can get by so well on just nepotism that it's worth having the degree just for that. My dream is to pass the bar and then fuck off and do whatever I want, I'm just afraid I'll kill myself before I reach that point/have no idea if it's actually achievable. I just need financial security really bad.
No. 2018339
>>2018334>What do you even do with that much moneyAfford life. I'm actually not in an expensive area compared to the coasts.
>burgers have to pay 20k out of pocket if they get into a medical accidentOff topic but no we don't; that's what insurance is for. Wish this meme would die kek. I've lived in Europe and medical care there is shit compared to America. You get what you pay for.
No. 2018343
>>2018334It's not just accidents, us burgers write our gross salaries but every month you get a chunk taken out for health insurance (which often doesn't cover well, so if you have actual health issues you often add another chunk of money to the cost. Like I pay $80-300 a month for allergy treatments.) Most areas with salaries that high have high cost of living. You NEED a car, so add a car payment for most people plus gas – our gas is cheaper but we also drive more on avg.
Food is pricy so add that, rent is often $1500-3000 depending, plus your electricity, water, internet, phone (internet in particular is often a local monopoly and can have nasty prices/get randomly jacked up or they do stuff like force cable bundles.) You need a chunk taken out for social security (retirement), other retirement funds, local (state, sometimes city and neighborhood association) and federal taxes as well. Most salaries like that also needed a college degree so add loan payments of $100-500.
This is all napkin math obvs but I hope that helps illustrate how it can evaporate fast.
>>2018339I had good insurance in college and I had to pay $5k for an emergency visit like 10 years ago. My friends thought I was having a heart attack, took 4 hours for them to see me and I didn't even recieve any kind of meds, scans or treatment. My friend's birth like 4 years ago (with insurance) still cost her like $20k out of pocket. She had complications and needed an emergency c section plus hospital stay but it was still appalling.
No. 2018352
>>2018343This is not the thread for this. It's expensive to live anywhere right now. Gas is cheap cheap cheap in America compared to Europe. 30 bucks to fill up a tank vs 150 in Sweden.
>Most areas with salaries that high have high cost of livingI just said in my previous post I live in the middle of America. It's not HCOL.
No. 2024278
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Should I take another call center job and look for something better in the meantime?
It's like there are no fucking jobs anywhere - it's either waitressing or they require you to have a phd/10 years of experience and no one wants to actually train you. I've been looking for 3 months now and it's the same shit over and over.
I have the chance to bag this call centre job, but I know how shit they are and my last one made me want to kill myself. What's worse is that the training is on site, meaning I have to travel by public transport for almost 2 hours to get there, the training is 8 hours and then additional almost 2 hours to get home. All for MAYBE 1k€. After a month or two I'd be able to wfh but spending 12 hours somewhere knowing I won't even be able to eat pisses me off so fucking much and of course by the time I get home I won't be able to do even basic chores. Everyone keeps pushing me to accept the job but I'm so tired of working at dead end places for shit pay while also being too retarded to actually gain any new skill/education etc that could land me in a better job opportunity.
No. 2024747
>>2024701Obviously I meant to reply to
>>2024454. for fuck's sake.
No. 2026077
>>2024701Nta but like
>I acknowledge I’m in a fortunate financial situation though.You answered your own question. You need money and/or parents or a partner to fall back on.
I too went back to school in my mid twenties because I chose wrong and it caused a massive financial set back (and a general delay in personal development honestly).
No. 2028136
>>2025168fuck…
nonnie this was me for the last 6 months. when I finally quit that micromanagement bullshit job hellhole I felt a sense of relief I hadn't felt since leaving high school. I hope your new job is so much better!
No. 2028668
I went through 3 different grueling jobs over the course of several years where my supervisors all told me I was incompetent, slow working, and a terrible communicator, no matter how hard I tried and how hard I worked myself to the bone. It totally destroyed my confidence in myself– I had graduated with a 4.0 and had thought I was a competent and responsible person, but the way my managers characterized me, one after the other, made me rethink all of that. One is bad luck for getting a bad manager, two is getting a little weird, and three means it's definitely my fault, right?
Well, last year I landed the easiest job I have ever done in my life through sheer luck. I hardly have to do anything at all, and literally everyone around me and all of my many supervisors kiss my feet and tell me I am the best ever, a perfect specimen, the best they've ever seen, just for sending some emails or taking basic notes. It is complete whiplash, but I am loving it. I'm a contractor right now and despite the place where I'm contracting taking an out of the blue 35% budget cut and basically being in "necessities only" mode where they're cutting things left and right, all of my supervisors have banded together to hire me on permanently and a good rate. Sometimes I feel like I'm going to wake up and this will have all been a dream. I think the universe must have sensed after I quit my 3rd horrific job that I was serious when I started thinking I might just kill myself if my next job was just as bad.
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I have an assessment centre coming up and I'm bricking it. I'm autistic as fuck and struggle to deal with the group dynamics inherent in these things, and I'm worried that my teammates will all be irritating 20-somethings who will judge everything about me. Please reassure me that I'm just being a retard and will smash it (or failing that… please share your advice)
No. 2029131
>>2028763I would follow up on Monday and send another email asking if he'd like you to sign the contract. Or today, if it's not too late where you are. That's a long time for you not to get a reply, but I think there were various holidays in Europe and the US during the past couple weeks.
>>2028926I don't know about this, sounds like UK stuff. I was managed by a bunch of awkward males in the UK so we never did anything social at all as a team except have lunch a couple times. What kind of activities will you have to do?
>>2028914I'm this anon and I sent my application. Got a received reply from the system so I'm glad for that small comfort. omg please just let me get this position because it will make a lot of things easier for me and I will be able to look for a permanent job while doing this one.
No. 2029258
>>2029244holy cow, what sort of job is this, are you going to be experimented on? I think you'll be ok. I would try to think of a couple topics you feel comfortable using for small talk as needed. Group activities often lack an "active listener" so maybe you can be the person who is keeping track of what everyone is saying and the different perspectives? But I have no idea what they are going to observe you doing, lol. I'm so curious, is it for sales or an office job or… is it like one of those summer jobs for charity?
Sorry i'm going through some UK bureaucracy atm and the bureaucratic / work language used is so convoluted or jargony, I never know if anything said to me is serious or not. Safeguarding, signposting, advocacy, coercive control, etc. it all sounds v serious
No. 2029415
>>2029258UK anon here again, sorry you have to deal with our nonsense bureaucracy (trust me when I say that none of us 'locals' understand it either!!) It's largely corporatespeak terms for basic law and order stuff.
This is basically a job interview, so I'm going to try and research well beforehand! I hate this stupid process but it's de facto for most good grad jobs so what can ya do? It's an entry level Finance program, should be for 3 years while I sit some exams. Hopefully it'll get me started in something that's not as soul crushing as admin (no shade, I just hated my previous jobs because of constant boredom!)
No. 2030315
>>2005397idk what country in europe you're in but it's definitely illegal in some places eg france.
>>2029332report him lmao
No. 2030986
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i'm so sad, anons. i've landed a good job with a cushy pay and not much stress and lots of free time because i live in walking distance. i'm basically employed by the government itself and i have tons of networking opportunities, people are incredibly nice when they hear who i work for, my boss is great, and i just really enjoy my job.
but my coworkers are pieces of shit. namely my direct coworker with whom i share an office and the only male coworker in the other office. the moid is a shitstirrer and hates another woman who works in the office space (we are 4 separate offices using the same office space but working for 4 mostly separate bosses) to the point of bullying her. he yells at her when he has to do anything for her (which is part of his job), hides her packages, and talks shit about her constantly. he can't even say hello to her. the female coworker is double my age and has narcissistic tendencies. she constantly berates me and criticizes every little thing that i do. when she's in a bad mood she'll suddenly decide that something she praised me for is bad actually and will give me shit for it. she also throws tantrums whenever i try to put up boundaries because her behavior is unacceptable and unprofessional. i admit that i am not perfect and i have a tendency to get annoyed easily. she brought this up with my boss and he told me to relax a bit, but he also told my female coworker to not be so annoying in return.
things went well since that conversation with our boss a month ago. until the moid coworker decided that me getting along with the coworker he hates is unacceptable and conjured some lie about me ditching work in favor of talking to that coworker. both of them called me out during our team meeting but i didn't let this fly and defended myself and told them to cut this shit out. i also called out the lies which made him very flustered. my female coworker then brought up the fact that i said i don't want to spend time with her in private and that this hurt her feelings. i told her that she can't force me to be friends with her but that i want to keep things professional between us. and that i had felt that things were going well the past few weeks but once again she's doing something that makes me dislike her even more. i basically told them that they can't control my private life and my friendships.
a few days later i went to an event and both of them were there. i greeted them and both of them ignored me even when i stood right in front of them. that's when i realized i can't work there anymore. they're just too childish and petty and downright evil. i have a long weekend off and instead of enjoying it i've been crying on and off all evening. i just don't want to go to work on monday and be put on trial again for the crime of being friends with someone both of them hate for no reason at all. the bullying is childish and stupid but i'm so sad that i have to leave to protect myself because i really liked this job. i thought i had finally found my forever job and now i have to start searching again when finding work is so hard right now. before this job i was on the hunt for over a year while sticking with a miserable job that i hated in a city that i hated even more.
i know there will always be shitty people at every job but this level of evil has got to be a one time thing…
No. 2032099
>>2030301unfortunalty not when i left my old job i handed back the work laptop it would be on there
it would be my word against his
and him winning makes them look good so they wouldnt want it exposed
No. 2033438
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Job interview went well.
>only one morning shift 7am-3pm
>M-F only
>travel expenses paid
>worked already nearby so I know the area
However, the pay is absolute shit. It's minimum wage. I'd also we surrounded by disabled and mentally ill elderly people. They said to only take the job if I'm serious about it, but the pay is off putting, I can deal with everything else. I hate this shit so much oh my god
No. 2033564
i started a new job 2 months ago and a guy who had been there for years just resigned because management was constantly pissed over him trying to behave like a manager. liars like this guy are always controversial people in their circles because they get some people "on their side" by manipulating them while the ones who know they're always bullshitting don't like them. i am not happy he left when our office is understaffed but i'm also glad he left because his true nature sounds awful and i don't appreciate that he tried to manipulate me too.
>anon i'm afraid they're going to compare you to the new girl
i said okay? there's nothing i can do about that and it's something people can't help but do. and they likely aren't going to do that in front of me
>calmly tells me i should wear my uniform more professionally, we had an actual chill conversation about it and he told management he "let me have it"??? they were pissed at him anyway and don't even care about my uniform and said to completely disregard anything he says.
i bet this fuck thought he had my number and could make me cry or something lol then found out i am not the kind of person i can come off as because i can be really quiet and meek when in a new place. i'm not a bitch or a baby, i am really chill and can take criticism very easily. he even pretended that other people were complaining about my uniform too lmao and i said thanks for having the balls to tell me to my face, i didn't know it was an issue. i am absolutely sure he wanted to get off on making the new girl cry or something to "prove" i can't handle the job.
>"i'm trying to help you succeed anon, there are people here who don't want you to succeed because they enjoy feeling like no one else can do their job"
bro i am fairly certain THAT PERSON IS YOU lmfao. i said to him "you have to understand that since i'm new i have to take all the comments people make like that with a grain of salt, not in a personal way but because people tell me different things". now that i know more of the story (other coworkers brought it up to me that he bitched that my jacket is oversized and they both said they do not give a fuck at all and told him they don't care).
funny how women are accused of being dramatic in the workspace when for me it's been the opposite. most women at my job are based and chill, the men are crybabies that likely feel emasculated working a public service job that requires fervent emotional stability, and is also primarily women in the office. and i bet their male friends all make more than them and they seethe about it and take it out on women who genuinely wanted to work this job as it's a unique and interesting field. i'm salty the guy who trained me barely acknowledges me when he comes in too, i wonder if it was (non-management) males all along who get off on feeling that young college graduate women simply can't do their job because when we show we can they feel their balls shrink and they're mad they don't make as much as their engineer bro friends. suck it up cunt, some of us actually wanted to enter this field and help families and provide a meaningful service, we all know we aren't going to be millionaires. men are such babies (except one guy there who is super chill and loves the job).
No. 2033708
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I feel stuck. I got a useless degree and have been working in paperpusher admin jobs. I want to study something more marketable but I just cannot force myself to it. I started a software testing course some time ago, but just cannot wrap my head around it. I feel like the only things my brain could manage to master are completely unmarketable bullshit humanities subjects (art history, library studies, illustration, etc). Ah, the classic 'do I want to starve but be happy or suffer but have money?' dilemma
No. 2035204
Long, sorry. My company threw me into an unprofessional situation and it's been hard to deal with while playing "professional" about it.
My manager manipulated me into handling an out-of-state account after the prior manager there quit without notice in order to avoid being fired. The other nepotism manager at my level wasn't volunteering, so I agreed to go after my boss teased a good performance evaluation aka a raise–which is not unfounded since it is an open fact I have the most expertise and competence behind my boss for our region. My name is known in our company. He often talks about me as a replacement once he retires. Anyways, I thought I would be helping out the account for a week at most, but now it's been going on almost a month and I realize that they never gave me a definitive timeline of going home before. Yet now my boss is saying it's until I hire and train the new manager which they are still screening for. Fortunately, I have a great team at home–who were my hires that I trained–to hold down the accounts back at base which I am also expected to remotely manage. But I digress.
Nonetheless, it's very obvious why prior manager was going to be fired:
>rampant timecard theft, people just clocking in and out from their cars while going home during their service job shift
>child labor
>manager was never onsite
>did not order approved supplies/barely ordered anything for employees
>when manager was onsite he'd spend all his time playing games like osrs on his laptop (found his herb skill notes scrawled on the back of an equipment manual) while pretending to be busy
>he even pulled this with me when I came down to train his team on separate occasions and acted like he didn't have to know or participate in what I was teaching like a proper mongomoid
>client dangling their multi-million dollar contract in my face while politely advising me that our company has not fulfilled contract scope since we started
>client literally telling me they are aware of the timecard thieves and implying the reason they do not fire us and hire another contractor is due to the inconvenience..so they are expecting me to fix it
>and a corporate walkthrough and several client inspections due the next week after he quit leaving me with only the weekend to recover an account site with a crew giving me the runaround cause they liked getting paid to not work
Somehow I survived the inspections and walkthrough, but only because I have been onsite every day to show a good faith effort to improve things. This translated to 12-16hr days my first week arriving because there are multiple buildings, 1st/2nd/3rd shifts, and weekends. Emergency supply runs, employees and client hiding supplies or stealing supplies. People fucking with me in general, fielding all of the pent-up grievances from employees which was just smoke and mirrors in hindsight because they could distract and not work while venting towards me. Handling all of this while being unfamiliar with the account myself and learning as I went along (no notes from prior moid manager and a disorganized office, nothing set up), and me just only being one person while I couldn't even trust these site supervisors and employees who are treating me like a monster since I'm in town cause they fucked up.
Oh, and emphasis on the majority of these employees being hot pissed at me for asking them to do their jobs. They have gotten away with the timecard theft for so long that my asking them to report to work on time and perform something in their scope feels like literal oppression to them. Why does my company not want to terminate for the theft? Cause it's less of an HR headache for them if they can just blame the prior manager and let me be the sacrificial lamb to catch the worst offenders myself if it means we don't have to mass fire & hire. The problem is with how busy I am just trying to get the site functional and organized, I don't have the hours to spare to be chasing after 40+ people and writing disciplinary reports! Most of the employees cannot even larp as good while the boss is in town because they're emboldened shits cause of what they have gotten away with.
They took the HR numbers, from the employee information posters I hung up for them when I arrived, and are trying to frame me to get me removed or fired from site which lmaooooooo will never happen even if I was being literal Hitler.
A shame because I'm actually a pretty chill manager being that I used to be an employee like they are with my only hard stops being literal theft and abuse lol fuck me.
They shit on the prior manager for not doing anything for them. Except when it suits their narrative, they paint him as an innocent babu manager who never got no help when they want to keep the unofficial shit he supposedly promised them, like nonsensical schedules and times off.
Now they wanna shit on me because I am being involved for them and proving that it is possible to get things done without being spoonfed. That it is possible to be fair and that policies exist to enforce that culture. It does mean I am onsite a lot and that I want to know where the teams are because…I am the manager.
Of course they hate me. Some of them aren't even subtle. One was baiting saying the N word about her coworkers in front of me hoping I would repeat it or agree cause she was secretly recording me. The same one is actively asking everyone who reports to her shift to walk off or quit to…punish me by leaving a job that none of them actually performed minimally thus would make no manner of difference at this point?
A grown ass man got pissed at me for writing him up cause I caught him bringing his little boy to work to do his job for him. Same man then cussed me out and fucking cried when I only asked him to work on one floor a night in a giant building where a normal employee could get through several…he is the floor technician.
God I hope they quit cause I would rather hire and train new folks than deal with these assholes and chase them with writeups.
Even the ex manager, who mysteriously could not be contacted after he quit, was within five minutes blowing up my personal cell phone with abuses after he heard I was "talking shit." All I did was ask his mom to come to work–don't ask me how his mother was allowed to report to her manager son but you see the corruption here–and she got mad at me when I insisted she report because her son having given her permission to only work two days a week when the site was in such deliquency thanks to him was not going to fly. I got boymom-screamed at for that one but at least it gave me what I needed to remove that cunt from site and to get retard to drop his mask once and for all. Hate how everyone waves that he is a "28 year old kid" in my face as if I am some overexperienced hag at 32 who should be more patient towards a thief and a liar.
Maybe if I were a manager with a penis my observations would be taken more seriously and be shown more respect. Maybe people would do backflips and kiss my ass, instead of being upset that I am a young female telling them what to do because I ate massive shit to earn where I am now.
So I am done shedding tears over this account and its people. My boss even reassured me that even if we lost the account it's not like my company would fire me so I should not worry so much.
He's right. That's why I am telling them I am returning home after this week.
No. 2035210
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>>2033438Hell no you can make more working gig economy apps than minimum wage or at least work somewhere way easier
No. 2035281
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>>2028756I got an interview, nonas! Your kind thoughts worked! Think more kind thoughts for tomorrow, please. Now I'm scared again, ofc.
No. 2036339
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> finally land job after 8+ months of searching and being unemployed
> a few bucks less than my old job but fully WFH
> during final interview process get a reachout from company I applied to half a year ago
> dream job, dream company, amazing pay
> get offer from initial company and say yes because literally no choice I am broke
> able to push back start date a bit to continue interviewing with dream job
> get asked to do final interview
> same day that I start first job
I have no idea how I'm gonna make this work anons lol, this would happen after almost a year of searching with barely any bites. I'm so grateful to have any job at all after so long and I can't afford to fuck up and lose it, but I can't miss this interview. This other position would be genuinely life changing if I got it. Thinking of saying I have internet issues or something for a couple hours, didn't receive my company computer in time, or asking if I can head out a little early. It won't be the best impression on my first day, but I don't think I have any other option.
No. 2036346
>>2036339>Thinking of saying I have internet issues or something for a couple hours, didn't receive my company computer in time, or asking if I can head out a little earlyNO. NO NO NO. Never
ever use excuses that will let your bosses offer a side-solution. I had a shitty boss in the past who actually blamed ME for my laptop inexplicably dying (long story short, it permanently died, I had to text the company CEO to let him know what had happened, my boss suggested I go to a fucking internet cafe, we don't even have those where I am). Always use an excuse that not only is unavoidable, but makes you seem like a good, dedicated worker. In other words, health issue. Tell them you woke up with a migraine but you took migraine meds, so you'll be okay in an hour or so (and this will also give you the excuse to take it a bit easy).
No. 2036867
Interview over. It was difficult. I can't say what, but they tested a specialized skill. I prepared as much as one can for having something random put in front of you. I hate making mistakes in front of people judging me. That said, I still don't believe anyone even in the broader area I am in, or their broader field, can do that perfectly or even well on the spot. Only a handful of seasoned experts could, and they aren't in the pool of applicants. Once I was halfway through, I got more used to it and could do it faster with fewer problems. I'm not used to doing this "out loud" either. It's not really something you speak out loud. (Sorry I can't be specific nonas, before I die, whenever it is, I'll come back and dox myself, but not today)
But I can only lie here and think about my mistakes now. There was virtually no small talk, the interview was only about this skill, more or less. (I knew it would include testing this thing.) I said why I wanted the position and my background, and asked a few questions. The more I think, the more I wish I weren't so fucking awkward.
damn I really need a new job right now though. And who else is even qualified to do it?? It's three moids, they might have some guy earmarked for the position already I guess.
No. 2038134
>>2037860Personally, I'd be really worried about working around all those chemicals. Maybe I am just paranoid and everyone there is fine, though. Or is it a place that sends the clothes somewhere else to be cleaned?
Otherwise it sounds like a typical customer service job. You might have to deal with some difficult people, are you able to do that? Now I sort of hope you will take it and make a thread about all the weird and wonderful stuff that gets cleaned there.
No. 2038142
>>2038134Yeah they send them somewhere else, and its also seperated, a front area for admin and the back is all for pressing I believe.
Yeah I can handle a difficult customer, I just have problems learning things quickly and retaining info. But I'm hoping it will be okay…
And lol yes I'll do that, their clients are actually news stations and luxury brands so it should be interesting.
No. 2038794
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>>2018034lawfag here too and i hate it. the jobs are soulsucking and im not normie enough for most recruiters. should have majored in history like i wanted
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Does anyone else in the field of environmental science feel like we basically have an expectation to volunteer our labor extensively before being hired, even at a small internship position, etc? I'm a junior right now and I'm frustrated because I'm basically about to volunteer all summer doing manual labor in 100+ degree weather, just because I'm desperate to accrew experience… I feel like the organizations know that people will resort to this, or are passionate enough to do it that they just expect it, so it's impossible to find beginner positions doing anything. Maybe it's just me though… I'm especially frustrated because volunteering means I can't even make up the expense for purchasing the necessary gear & gas money to get to the park. Hopefully next summer is better…
No. 2038963
>>2038524Honestly, gamedev turned out to be even more soul sucking than anything else. If you hate this personal after work project culture, you are just going to get the same shit on steroids in gamedev anyway. Like you have to constantly improve and grow, do projects, network like crazy and tons of other shit to just be tossed aside cus there are way better and more experienced people than you applied already. It's impossible to get a job in gamedev sometimes it seems. I got a massive burnout from just trying to get a job as a freshly graduated person and I'm one of the best students in my class and I started the search two years ago, when I still was a student.
Sorry if it terrified you more, but this shit makes me suicidal.
No. 2039872
>>2038794nta but im an accounting
nonny who ventured into law firm work for a brief moment and wanted to drop dead within a month. shits so stressful and for no reason other than everyones a colossal narcissist with zero accountability. I was literally happier taking angry customer calls than doing that job. they were aghast when I up and left, my degree didn't tether me to their firm or their network luckily.
No. 2040132
>>2039785>When she was training me she would say things like “most people wouldn’t teach you how to do these things hehe but I will”.Maybe I'm missing context here, but she probably was saying that because whoever trained her left a lot of gaps. I would not take a comment like that as anatognistic or negative towards her, it says more about the company that she is mentioning that.
>I wouldn’t be too worried in the first few weeks or first year even but I didn’t know if it should concern me since it was brought up to me in my first few days of working here.So you said the lunch conversation happened a few days after you started but how long have you been here since?
It's hard for me to accurately say without understand the turnover rate in yout industry, but if you've been there less than 6 months, speaking up and asking about forward mobility would more than likely not affect you positively.
I'm not sure about the situation, but it sounds like you went there in hopes to surpass this colleague based upon your last sentences. You could be overthinking things, or it's clear as day that you are trying to upsurp her hence her inviting you out to lunch.
No. 2040229
>>2040132My contact is biased and he said that I would “surpass” her but it’s not really about taking her job—I just want to grow within the organization because I will not be waiting around 5+ years to still be an analyst with no progress in sight. There are some people who have no problem with staying in the same job forever—I am not like that. That’s not because of the money but because I get bored and demoralized if I would have to twiddle my thumbs waiting on a specific person to leave just so I could make progress. Most people stay at my company a long time so counting on someone to leave is not reliable.
And it’s not even about her job specifically either because I want to ideally learn another area that she doesn’t cover. I want to expand my skillset in another role and work more with our other team anyways (to eventually move there). But even hearing that she’s saying there’s no potential on that team either and I will should find another department entirely.
So I won’t bring it up then to my other boss but I am going to remember this going forward. Like it does feel a bit manipulative that she turned an entire lunch into trying to get the new hire to leave. I’m just going to use this as motivation to work even harder.
No. 2040269
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this retarded fucking bobbleheaded moid i work has been disrespecting me and talking down to me like i'm his underling since he started working here a few months back and he's literally too stupid to realize i am held in incredibly high esteem at my company, have been on a rapid upward trajectory and gotten 3 raises and 2 promotions since i got here less than 2 yrs ago, and am regularly pulled into meetings with the c-suite to consult on how to improve our business and advise who the weak links on the team are
im going to fucking bury him kek
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I’m currently a dental assistant. I’ve come to realize I need to make a LOT more money if I want to survive on my own (living solo without roommates, boyfriend, or parents.) What career pivots can I make that will allow me a higher income ceiling? Not interested in becoming a dentist. I was thinking maybe a sales rep for dental equipment or some sort of dental/healthcare tech job, since tech jobs tend to make a lot. Are those high earning?
No. 2043548
>>2043262Do you want to become a Dental Hygienist? In the US, at least, they make twice as much as Dental Assistants, see this table, around 80k.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/dental-assistants.htm#tab-8If you want to get into dental sales, start buddying up with all the sales people who come into your office and pump them for info.
But if you're going to go back to school to get an associate's degree, you might as well try for Radiation Therapist. They make around 100k.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/radiation-therapists.htm#tab-1
>dental/healthcare tech job, since tech jobs tend to make a lot. It depends on the type of job. If you don't have a lot of experience, then you start off as level 1 service desk (aka computer support specialist), which doesn't make a lot of money, and have to work your way up.
You can see the various IT job categories here:
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/ No. 2043562
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Any interview tips? First time and I did a mock interview from some service place and compeletly bombed kek. They said I need to work on selling myself better..
I'm just scared I won't know how to reply stare in silence and hate talking about myself positively..
how in the world do I answer the "tell me bout yourself, nonnie?"
No. 2043646
>>2043562>hate talking about myself positively..Ditch this mindset. You shouldn't hate thinking or talking about yourself in a positive way. You're you,
nonnie. There's only one of you in existence. You have a set of skills that no one else has. Pretend you're talking to a skinwalking troon about why he could never be you, such as your amazing carpentry skills, or how you once saved a baby bird and nursed it back to health.
No. 2043717
>>2043562Think about what interviewers want to hear for this specific job and find a way to say this about yourself that seems legit. In the "tell me about yourself" question you just give them a structured way to contextualise what you're about to talk about: where you've been so far (previous study, previous jobs), where you are now (applying to this job why? how does it fit into your career? that's the hardest part to bullshit up but it's important to seem like you genuinely want to be here) and a quick insight into future plans ("I want to grow into X career and learn Y and Z skill, which I saw mentioned in the post for this job and I'm excited about"). They don't want to hear your lifestory, they don't want to know about you in general, they just can't remember what they've read on your resume and want context for the interview.
Also remember to prepare lots of STAR style answers (some common ones, but also for specific interviews re-read the ad and see what qualities/competencies they mention and craft and answer about how you've shown those qualities), once you know your stories you can adapt them to many different questions. I'm a super autist but I've been told I interview very well and I feel it's because I've prepared SO many STAR answers that I can always fall back on a story if I don't know what to say to a question.
No. 2043846
>>2043562Interviewing is a skill and can be learned. You need two things 1) prepared answers and 2) practice. You need to do more mock interviews. You don't have to go back to that place, just get a friend to ask you interview questions and/or go on interviews to jobs you don't care about. For answers, google common interview questions and answers for the job you want, use the answers to model your own answers and then practice giving those answers until it looks and feels natural.
Also, 'the STAR method is a structured manner of responding to a behavioral-based interview question by discussing the specific situation, task, action, and result of the situation you are describing.'
STAR Method: How to Use This Technique to Ace Your Next Job Interview
https://www.themuse.com/advice/star-interview-method No. 2044080
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>ad for fullstack junior position
>some backend is fine but we mostly need frontend skills
>proceeds to send a task that is backend only
Why are job ads so fucking retarded? Do you even know what you need in your own fucking company. I'm tempted to just send them a copy paste of the task from some random ass blog
No. 2044159
Nonas please, I need help. Be as harsh as you have to, at this point I just want to figure out which one it is.
Is my boss a bitch or am I the one who's too retarded?
Basically I'm currently interning for a design position in a luxury company (it's not a mainstream one though). It's not my first professional experience, but it's my first experience with that type of company (my prev intership experience was at a tech business). I do all assignments I'm given, always arrive on time, never slack off, always try to be as careful and thorough as possible, but unfortunately sometimes small mistakes slip in. Usually very tiny things like forgetting to add cutting marks on a print file, for example (something that can be corrected with a single click). I've never made any huge mistake, only those small hiccups and I'm always very quick to fix whatever mistake that gets pointed out. Hell, I don't even contest or defend myself, I just nod and start working on fixing it as fast as possible.
My boss however, reacts like they're the biggest mistakes in the world. That I should be more attentive, that it's a "basic skill" and that I shouldn't be making those mistakes because of how silly and basic they are. She claims that I don't pay attention to what I'm doing (I do, to an obsessive degree) and that I don't take notes (I do, on my computer) during briefings and because of that I keep wasting time and stretching projects for longer than they should. She also complains that I never ask her to repeat instructions for the briefings and that "if you don't understand something then ask!" but her english level is worse than mine (we're both non-native english speakers but I'm fully fluent while she's not) and in all honesty she always seems so irritated that I don't feel confident in asking her to repeat herself at all. I've seen her roll her eyes at me once and many times before when I tried to explain possible reasons for me letting those tiny mistakes slip through (such as my anxiety problems that I've told her about before but I guess she forgot) she'd look at me like I'm fucking insane and that I'm spewing bullshit. Basically from all her criticisms she seems like she wanted a perfect intern that never made any mistakes and that she'd never have to give extra feedback on, that she could simply barely bat an eye on whatever they deliver rather than actively review it and search for errors. Thank god this internship is going to end in 2 months.
But nonas please, please tell me. Am I the problem? Am I stupid or careless like my boss claims? I try to be as dedicated as I can with my tasks, is my effort not enough? I'm a pretty good student in my field and I have many accomplishments, most people around me always tell me that I have all that it takes to go far, but this internship is making my confidence in myself and my own skills go to shit.
I'm sorry for the long sperg but I needed to get this out.
No. 2044492
>>2044159she sounds like she's powertripping
>such as my anxiety problems that I've told her about before but I guess she forgoti feel like telling a boss about anxiety issues is a mistake, a weakness they know to use against you
No. 2044587
Does anyone have any advice on getting a job when you have social anxiety/depression? I’m not technically a NEET since I’m still in college, although I’m just taking one online class this semester. I am however, a shut in and I still live with my parents. My parents are (rightfully) getting on my ass about doing fuckall and I feel guilty, but at the same time I dread working with the public. I haven’t had a job in two years, my first job was when I was 19 working at a chinese restaurant. I lasted four months and ended up quitting since I was being paid minimum wage, had finals coming up, was eating less, I wanted to kill myself, and there was a language barrier too. I know that the longer I wait, the harder it’s going to be to overcome this, and I’ll keep feeling like a loser. I need a job but I’m awkward around people, I know that I’m capable of working since I have two hands, two legs, and a brain, but said brain is paranoid. Has anyone else had similar experiences? If so, how did you overcome it and what do you work as?
No. 2044593
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going out of town for a convention tomorrow and i'm so miserable. i haven't felt this level of "do not want" in literal years. getting yelled at in retail was easier. but i don't want to do this. i don't want to social schmooze with judges and lawyers and senators for three days, i'll kill myself. i'm going to insult someone and end up in jail. apparently people from parliament will be there? please let them all look straight through me and let the days fly by
No. 2044791
>>2044587I've had a similar experience. Got a job through an agency after being a NEET/shut-in for 2-3 years and was able to hold it for 2,5 years. It was at a small company doing production work, some programming and graphic designing. I never had to deal with customers plus we had a small team, so I didn't have to talk with other people that much because everybody would be busy doing their own job. I recently quit and am now back to being a NEET/shut-in though.
I think retail/restaurant jobs are not ideal for shut-ins (if you deal with social anxiety) and I personally tend to look for jobs where you specifically do not have to deal with customers, like in a factory or just some place where they make stuff (if you want to do manual labour that is). I know it might sound depressing to work in a factory of some sorts, but there are so many interesting jobs available there and most of the time they are willing to teach you everything. Just open Google Maps sometime and look at what the companies in your area are making/if they have any vacancies and see if you can find anything that interests you. My advice is to not work at a company that is very small like I did though, because they will take advantage of you if you have a doormat personality like I do kek. Good luck nonna, I believe in you.
No. 2046163
This is a question probably more for anons who are in tech, particularly software engineering, but it's generally a question about how to figure out next steps in a career. I'm at a point where I want to move into some other role (currently senior fe) but I'm not totally sure what direction to go into. I feel torn between staying in fe and pursuing tech lead or manager roles or learning a different language and doing different type of development. Part of the difficulty in making a decision is that I've always worked at fairly small companies where the different type of engineers are broadly defined: front end, backend, devops. When I look at job posts to try and see what interests me, positions tend to be a bit more specific, so I have no real frame of reference on what it might be like. I know I might not have all the skills for a department change at the moment, but I love learning and have dabbled in C+ and Python, but haven't dived in yet since I'm not sure what's worth investing in for the best fit. I like FE work, but I'd generally like to expand and deepen my knowledge. Like I said, I have considered going into a tech lead or manager track, but I am grappling with my people pleasing tendencies. Not to mention, I default to softening my language so problems I flag have sometimes been read as not severe until things reach a critical point. I am working on that personal issue but it makes me not confident that I could be a good lead or manager. On the plus side, I am often told I am very easy to work with, knowledgable, and good at explaining concepts to less tech savvy coworkers and clients. I'm just not sure how to research or vet a good next step for me and wondering if any anons have advice or want to share any of their experiences in different dev roles? Barring that, I've considered finding a career coach to help parse this out, has anyone worked with one of those before? I worry it's a scam like most coaching, but I don't want to just be stuck in my current position forever.
No. 2046170
>>2046163I switched from being a dev to being a security engineer (ISSE) recently. You just need a NIST certification to get going, I got sponsored by my company.
I like it more than dev work because it's less wrangling/interfacing with the customer, I just deal with devs and it guys and yell at them to fix their shit. I still apply my technical background, and I think your stated skills would be a good fit for it - it's very helpful to be able to explain security issues well, obviously.
I'd see about availability in your area before anything else though, I don't know how in demand it is everywhere (it's very valuable and high paid where I live.) Also, if you switch to something else after trying it, NIST experience is still valuable since it's always good to have someone who understands security shit writing your code or herding your devs or whatever.
No. 2046279
>>2044159You're not the problem here, her attitude is. Yu sound like you're going above expectations tbf, a surprising amount of interns don't know how to do anything!
I experienced the same shit at my last job and I think it's because a) my boss was a middle-aged depressed woman who felt threatened by young people and b) they didn't like my vibe (i'm autistic kek) and wanted to poke me.
No. 2046703
>>2046202ayrt,I agree my answer is not the best but trying to give
nonny something, hopefully other autists have good reccs. But also you're right, research and library sciences from what I've heard from my friends is particularly difficult and competitive regardless of the economy, since it's a small field and people are usually lifers. Data Science I'm less sure about, probably matters how into math you are. Idk less skilled or specialized jobs that'd be good for a woman with autism though.
No. 2046827
>>2046793Idk what country you’re in but do not say ANYTHING. It never happened, got it? You are going to sell yourself as hypercompetent and friendly if you want this job. Do not mention anything about disagreements at the old one unless it’s a STAR answer where you have a good “result” pre-planned. If you left a job then you either give a practical reason or say that you were seeking something with more internal growth.
They only call past workplaces after your offer is accepted to confirm the dates of your employment. HR cannot tell them anything else.
No. 2048454
>>2048379I'm so sorry
nonny. Being so close to getting the job and then it not working out feels really terrible. I had the same thing happen to me about five months ago and it was pretty crushing. I don't understand how companies can string you along for three whole interviews and then poof nothing comes from it… At least you have the practice from the interviews so you can be as prepared as possible and move with confidence when the next chance comes along, plus you know your portfolio is solid. You're not a loser. Also imo that comment about you being proud to have made it so far despite being young kinda shows their hand that they don't want to hire young people in the first place, so you must have been pretty damn good. Don't lose hope ♥
No. 2049002
>>2048600Based, nice work.
>Is there anything I can do to make sure I succeed?Nobody here can tell you that, but imposter syndrome can lead to self-sabotage, so try and learn how to manage it before you start your job and try to avoid interpreting the mistakes you'll make early on as signs that you're shit. Ask your manager for feedback fairly frequently during your first few months and learn from that, the advice your colleagues give you, and your mistakes.
No. 2049059
>>2044593How did it go? I had the same feeling of dread when I had to go to a convention, and while I did enjoy it less than my coworkers did, I still ended up having fun overall.
>>2044911I have only ever been able to cope by finding similarly jaded coworkers that I can talk shit with. It's not possible at all jobs, though. Having coworkers that you can bitch to is what I miss most about being a wagie.
>>2048600Congrats.
The bar for project managers is honestly on the floor. If you're not retarded and you actually try, you'll probably do fine.
>Be organized>Keep the number of meetings down, and keep them short and quick. Actively moderate meetings to make sure you're not wasting people's time. >Attempt to actually understand the projects you're working on. Employees can tell when you dont understand what they're telling you or when you don't understand what you're talking about, and they will resent you for being a useless middleman. If you don't understand the project and the important details about it, you will fuck up when discussing it to devs and leadership, which will cause a ton of problems for everyone involved.>Contribute and give structure and focus to projects. You're not just a messenger and a scribe; you should be adding value. If you do
most of these things halfway decently, you will be significantly better than the average PM.
No. 2049081
>>2048944That's such a stupid question to ask during an interview. I wouldn't be surprised if it has a
toxic work culture.
No. 2049123
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>>2049003I thought about that too. They said that it’s understandable if I left because I wasn’t happy but I did lie about my old management being nice people. I wouldn’t be offended if I didn’t get the job. Could you imagine how much info I would have on their clients that I couldn’t share online? It would drive me insane.
>>2049081lol yeah she even said their last girl left because of “personal reasons”.
No. 2049166
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it's either find a job across the country or finally go to college full time out there, but I'm in my mid thirties and I don't think I can make it through college surrounded by people of gender and other current era specimens
but fucking hell from the empty wasteland that is my inbox you could reasonably assume that a fifteen-year civil service career means nothing without a certificate saying I spent four years writing papers about nothing materially real or meaningful and trying not to think about the amount of debt I'd end up with for that privilege
No. 2051342
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Are there any artists here who've managed to transition careers? I graduated with a Fine Arts degree about 2 or 3 years ago (who could remember with COVID) and am still doing freelance art commissions. It's ok, but definitely not a sustainable long term career, and family's up my ass about "well you're 26 now so…?" The latest push has been to become a teacher (either a grade school art teacher or substitute) but that can't be all that's left these days right?
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>>2044911I don't know because it really gets to me as well. I am much rougher around the edges - Like to cuss, don't care for self grooming very much (Walk around in old clothes, bags, etc), talk very casually…I just wish we could have a white collar job closer to the culture of a blue collar one. Construction workers seem much more laid-back with eachother. No frills, can swear, and shoot the shit with eachother (Can develop an actual brotherhood with eachother that isn't forced networking crap). Don't have to worry about dumb superficial shit like how much text you have on a Powerpoint and how well polished your shoes are. Also I imagine if someone fucks with you in construction you can go ahead and tell them straight up to fuck off much more easily. Not get written up to HR immeadietly, which causes people in white collar to fuck with you much more insidiously, creating an environment where you're forced to put up with it for much longer.
No. 2051498
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I've somehow mentally convinced myself I will not get the job despite answering all the technical questions correctly, due to the fact that I did not make myself appear more eloquent.
Doesn't help that I know there's 11 other candidates that got to the interview stage and probably appeared more friendly than I did. I hate the waiting period so much it's unreal because I start overthinking this shit and picking apart everything I could have done better.
No. 2051775
>>2044911I made it clear as soon as I started my current job a few years ago that I won't work overtime, and that I will work hard during the hours stated in my work contract because it's explicitly stated that working more hours won't give me a bigger salary, no more no less. I was kind of forcing myself to participate in activities that my former coworkers thought would be fun before they all left very quickly, dumb shit like celebrating everyone's birthdays on our own money or stretching for like 10 minutes before our weekly team's meetings but after everyone got replaced because the turnover rate is really high these things stopped happening as often and even then I'm still fed up. Last week my coworkers wanted to surprise me by celebrating my birthday too late with a cake they bought during lunch break, filmed me while singing happy birthday to you in the middle of the office and made me eat a piece while I was trying not to pass out, throw up and shit in my pants at the same time from my period cramps. They all looked a little upset I wasn't crying tears of joy when it's the third time they've been doing that shit and I was too physically sick to give a fuck. I can't stand these bitches anymore. My boss got lowkey upset we didn't want to have our meetings (as in, work) during our unpaid lunch breaks but she still stopped doing that when we all politely made her understand we don't give a fuck about these meetings. One good thing is that the guy who wanted to plan afterworks once a week left the company more than a year ago so he can't harass me into drinking alcohol and partying instead of raising his very young kid.
It's not advice because it's a little unrealistic, it's not something you can directly influence but I think the most effective way to stop caring about all of this would be if most of your coworkers also stopped caring, stopped pretending you're all bffs and actually just focused on work and left as soon as the work is done. In my case all the annoying things that contributed to all of us being forced to pretend we're a giant, happy family stopped being organized because the people who cared about that left little by little and got replaced by people who care a lot less about that shit. I can't say it's a good thing though, because we have a lot more issues as a result of everyone leaving the company after just 6 months or one year there.
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>>2051775
>Last week my coworkers wanted to surprise me by celebrating my birthday too late with a cake they bought during lunch breakI did not tell anyone at work it was my birthday day of, but only on the next day instead, because I knew they would do something like that. They still did exactly that. They suddenly walked in with a cake and made me blow candles while everyone started singing Happy Birthday and looking at me like picrel. Seemed like a nice gesture at first but then I thought about how creepy and humiliating that felt. I think there was some unwritten rule for me to share the cake with everybody else too, but I didn't since no one said yes when I asked, so the first thing I got asked the next morning "How was the cake?".
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a job application im filling out right now….
No. 2056138
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So sick of spending hours writing cover letters only to get a generic email rejection in response and a refusal to give me feedback. Is the job market (in Europe) just really shit right now? My last two jobs took only a couple weeks to get, I've been looking for three months now. Both in a new sector and in a sector I've been working in for a couple of years.
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Another day another rejection. There are almost no jobs around here and all the remote stuff requires good upload, which I can't have due to living at the edge of town. I was almost hored on the spot today, but again, the upload sucks.
Money is slowly running low which has me a bit panicking and I don't want to dig into my savings. Sending 6 more applications today.
>>2056156nta, but I recommend Notion, imo it's better and prettier than excel
>>2056993You sure you're not burned out?
I know I was after that stupid final in the coding bootcamp I did. Maybe doing something like cs50 or daily challenges could get you your spark back?
I haven't touched vs code since December and I still need to make a portfolio kek
No. 2057411
>>2057375My brothers gf was the same after graduating, it'll wear off after a while. Those stupid tests and exercises seem to be almost mandatory for every coding role, even if the job is piss easy and you'll never use whatever they ask in the test. Leetcode and code wars are a good idea, yeah. Just try to sit for like 5 minutes on the site. Starting sucks ass but eventually it'll turn into a habit. At least it did for me with duolingo kek
>>2057385Interviews are all about bullshitting and it's more about the vibes than actual knowledge. By that I mean if you get along with the interviewer you can make a few mistakes. They also take practice.
Maybe the google interview warmup site could help with practice? You get questions, answer them and get feedback.
Reminds me how I was asked in an interview about team management, told them how the most people I managed was about 50, made some shit up how it worked. Meanwhile the truth was that I was a commander in Guild wars 2 and did meta maps. You don't need to do shit, just pop up a tag and people follow you
No. 2057623
>>2057500You can do it, you just have to delude yourself a bit that you're the best thing that ever happened to the company and if they ask about something you've never done, well, you're never done it but you're more than capable to learn it super fast and be good at it. They love retarded amount of confidence, lots of smiling and just being a bit bubbly. Even the cunty ones are just people and trust me, there's always someone worse than you at these interviews.
Just keep practicing
No. 2058437
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>"we aim to give you a response somewhere near the start of next week"
>it's friday and still no news
I suppose at least I haven't been rejected yet?
No. 2058572
>>2058548Just send the documents and write something basic in the email like hope my cv will interest you enough to give me the opportunity to introduce myself in person" or something like that.
I had the chance to work at hiring at one of the companies I was at. You wouldn't believe the dumb shit people send in (sometimes there's literally nothing attached lol), the ugly af cv's and stupid email addresses (seen xxxedgy420bl00dxx type of stuff frequently). Whatever you do, it'll be fine
No. 2058707
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Nonnas, it can get better. For years, I was doing soul sucking office work as a college graduate. I was able to pretty easily afford things and I got to avoid talking to people. However, the benefits were not worth the mental toll and I was extremely depressed for several years partly because of my meaningless work. Edge aheadI tried to kms twice while on the clock and had to take leave because of it, when I came back it was like nothing happened. I was bullied by coworkers and mgmt ignored me. There were also periods where they gave me no work but I was expected to sit at my desk like a good slave for 8 hours and look busy. I had no hope for my future and hoped to either be fired or die so I didn't have to continue. People would tell me 'it's just a job' or 'you're just there for the paycheck' and tell me not to let it get to me. But when you're working for most of your waking hours, it is nearly impossible not to let it affect you.
I decided to quit and go to trade school where I had to learn new things and gain new experience. Luckily I was able to survive on savings and short jobs here and there until I got my professional license. Now I don't dread waking up in the mornings. I don't feel miserable on the weekend knowing I have to go to work soon. This peace is worth it. I am able to do work that I find meaningful, work with my hands, and improve my own life. And eventually I can open my own business and work for myself. I'm so glad I didn't listen to the skeptical people in my life who told me I was just being sensitive. I know this doesn't apply to everyone though, some people legitimately can work corporate jobs and not want to die at the end of the day.
No. 2058928
>>2058707thank you
nonny, gives me a lot to think about.
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>>2058437NVM I got the response I was hoping for.
No. 2060631
My boss decided that he doesn't like my coworker and wants to fire him. The problem is the only way to legally do that in my country is to completely remove his job position, and he can't hire anyone to do his job for at least 3 months. So he wants me to take on his job responsibilities or be fired as well. I obviously said shove it, fire me as well. So the HR lady and my supervisor basically begged me to reconsider and said that even if I am taking on his responsibilities on paper, I don't have to do much. They pressured me to make the decision right then and there, so I agreed to their terms. But the more I think about it, the more I don't like it. It just morally doesn't sit right with me. I don't really want to take on his job. I don't like it at all. It just gives me a bad feeling. Also, I feel like by accepting this offer, I am losing all my bargaining chips. If I get fired now, I will get severance pay and I will have grounds to sue. If I accept it, then I will be someone who begged to stay at this godforsaken place. But I am not in a good place financially to quit right now. I was in the process of applying for a mortgage loan. I hate it. What should I do, nonnies? Should I stay or should I go?
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I got a new job after a rubbish period of job searching (limited options in a shitty small town). not a brilliant job, more shitty retail work, but I know it isn't permanent and I'll be getting back to my real passion + career soon when I find my feet again. very small flicker of positivity.
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Am I overreacting? I'm currently working a lucrative contract for a tech company. My boss for the contract (who is normally chill and leaves me to be autonomous) flipped out and berated me in a public slack channel for sending an email 'without permission'. For context, the email I sent had correct information but missed another piece of company specific information that I, being an external contractor, did not know about. I would have appreciated my boss simply saying 'can you also include this extra information in a follow up, that's the way we do it here' rather than raging and implying I'm incompetent in front of others.
Not sure whether to mention this because it has really pissed me off, or just roll with it and assume my boss is having a bad day.
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I’m currently planning for my future and for a German lawyer moving to the US I only see two options:
Plan A: take some classes at an American law school to take the US bar exam and keep working as a lawyer
pros: good salary, can open my own office if nobody wants to hire me
cons: expensive and time consuming, job is limited to the state one barred in, employers and clients would probably prefer fully US educated lawyers (hard to compete with them)
Plan B: do some training to become a paralegal
pros: cheap and quick, can move from state to state, don’t have to worry about losing cases
cons: shitty salary compared to plan A
Which path would you choose, nonnas? Or can you think of any alternative plans for foreign lawyers in the US?
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Been flagging for 6 years and I'm only 23 and make $23/cad an hour. I'm so sick and tired of it. What do bartenders and servers make? This job makes me want to die but its full time with guranteed hours/wage. Is it worth switching?
No. 2062307
>>2062250I need to leave Germany to get away from my
toxic abusive family. I don’t want to move to a different European country because it would still make it too easy for my family to visit me on a regular basis, trust me. And I honestly don’t care for other European countries lol I only like Germany. I picked the US because I’ve enjoyed all my stays there and find it very easy to connect and socialize with Americans. And the wildlife, national parks, hiking trails and landscapes give me a reason to live kek. Also, driving in Europe gives me anxiety because the roads are too narrow and curvy. American roads are wider and straighter.
No. 2062386
>>2062224Lawyer to paralegal is a SERIOUS downgrade both wrt your salary and how much people will respect you. You'll also never get sponsorship that way unless you marry a citizen. Bad idea.
>>2062307>I’ve enjoyed all my stays thereI'm not saying that you'll ultimately hate living there, but living somewhere is much different than travelling.
Can you afford to do a trial run via a shorter period of education like a master's or renting a place in an area of interest for a few months? I'm sure you also know that getting a green card/PR in the US is difficult even if you're sponsored by a company/firm. And whatever extra training you do will mean nothing without a sponsorship.
>Also, driving in Europe gives me anxiety because the roads are too narrow and curvy. American roads are wider and straighter.Traffic fatalities in the US are absurdly high and many people drive like maniacs post-COVID.
This isn't to shit on your dreams, but they won't be the easiest to realise and there's a decent chance that you won't enjoy living in the country.
No. 2062403
>>2062388the system is fucked up but I think it’s up to
nonnie if she wants to pursue life in da USA. Let’s face it wages are higher here than most countries.
No. 2062432
>>2062403If it's a pure money calculation, then yeah, sure. Wages might be higher but the quality of life is significantly lower when compared to a country like Germany. Infrastructure, roads, healthcare, government funding, food, public schools, safety, etc. Nonna can live a comfortable life as a lawyer in the German countryside where with her salary she can buy land and a house and drive on big, deserted countryside roads. Compare that to being an immigrant in the US, it's just begging to suffer. She won't be treated any better just because she's German there either. Not to mention if she wants a greencard she has to give up her German passport. Fat chance of making it back to the EU under these conditions.
No. 2062441
>>2062428Based. Don't listen to these Amerilards. I bet they studied something useless in school like basket weaving and are now bitter that they can barely find a job and living paycheck to paycheck, so it must mean Murrica is a third world kek. Follow your dreams
nonny!!
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>>2062441All nonnies should come to Brazil
No. 2062446
>>2062432>if she wants a greencard she has to give up her German passport. Fat chance of making it back to the EU under these conditionsNope, you dont need to give up your German citizenship for a greencard. It’s perfectly possible to have both. The German passport is one of the worlds strongest. That thing let’s you get away with pretty much anything kek. I can return to Germany at any time, don’t worry nonna.
>Infrastructure, roads, healthcare, government funding, food, public schools, safety, etc.How will that concern me as a lawyer exactly? We make good money and I have a lot of savings. I’m not going to live in a ghetto
>Nonna can live a comfortable life as a lawyer in the German countrysideI literally live in the German countryside and contrary to your assumptions it‘s quite literally where the roads are the slimmest and curviest topkek. And stop blowing the road thing out of proportion nonnies, its obviously not my main motivation
No. 2062458
>>2062446>I’m not going to live in a ghettoOh,
nonnie.
No. 2062516
>>2062432>>2062458Oh, please. The nicest places in America are wonderful to live in; they're just absurdly expensive. They're a different type of nice compared to European cities, and they feel much less organic, but it is not at all hard to believe that some Europeans would find that appealing.
Acting like living in America
on a lawyer's salary is like living in a ghetto is absolutely ridiculous and betrays that you have no idea what America is like or that you have no idea what actual third world countries are like. Yes, we have many pockets of serious poverty and our country is not great to live in if you are poor, but the vast majority of cities have several nice neighborhoods that do not have significant crime problems, are walkable, and have good public amenities well-cared for by urban nimbys; they're just far too expensive for people outside the top 20% of income. You need to visit a suburban-ish satellite city of a growing American city. They are often shiny and wealthy to the point of absurdity, but you can pretty easily afford to live in these places on a professional's salary.
>She won't be treated any better just because she's German there eitherAmericans absolutely love European immigrants, especially if they're actually fluent in english. Thinking otherwise is very out of touch.
>Not to mention if she wants a greencard she has to give up her German passport.I know she already replied, but this is extremely false. Even if youre confusing a green card with citizenship, both the US and Germany allow dual citizenship.
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Anyway taking this as a chance to rant: I specialize in bank law and I hate having to deal with divorce cases form time to time just bc the couple has created some huge loan issues with the bank in their marriage. Everyone involved in divorce cases is obnoxious and petty and most importantly: a liar
No. 2062550
>>2062529More like
>paralegal immigrant in The US>native lawyer in Germany The immigrant part cannot be underestimated.
And contrary to expectation you need a degree to be a paralegal, too. A US law degree. Because the USA is a common law country.
No. 2062574
>>2062516>vast majority of cities have neighborhoods that are walkableThat "neighborhood" is usually only a very small portion of the city i.e. downtown. And even then there's rarely one with an apartment where:
1) You won't still deal with shitty drivers and homeless
2) There is a building other than a grocery store and some small shops that are properly walkable i.e. post office, bank, hospital.
So this is inaccurate. Do not underestimate American car-brain.
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I can't tell if I'm fucking up on my resume or my portfolio is way too out of date or what, but I'd love a bit of advice. Artist, working in video game industry, got laid off a while back, still applying to jobs left, right, and center. A lot of the work I did for the place I worked at is still under NDA (for at least 6 more months), so in the meantime I'm working on art to put in my portfolio. Of course, this takes time, but I'm still applying to studios. It's been rejections for a while now. My first reaction is usually, "Shit, my portfolio needs more recent art", which makes me panic and work on art, but Idk if that's just the sole reason. I remember from a past thread some anon mentioned companies using AI to sort through resumes automatically.
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Just flunked a job interview for a role im perfectly suitable for, completely locked up and had to have a break in the middle to compose myself. Luckily I have another interview in two weeks but I'm afraid I'll do the same. Anyone got any advice to avoid blanking? Going to go to the Asian supermarket to cheer myself up.
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>have been doing part time at this grocery store
>when I first got in, had really chill managers who cared about their job
>over time one retired and another moved to another state
>new managers are the run-of-the-mill big chain store managers who are tolerable at best but will be passive aggressive assholes at worst
>saw them bitching about the down syndrome guy about how 'he doesn't do his job properly'
>yeah what the fuck do you expect? And he likes his job, never misses a day, and he never bothers anyone. Having a job does give quality of life to people (I know saying this is an oxymoron now a days because no one is paid properly + people are overworked to death because upper management wants to squeeze every penny they can, even if it results in a societal uprising and they get the guillotine)
>tfw my favorite part time is turning into another walmart.
Sorry for the tangent ramble on the last part. But yeah shit sucks. The boomers at walstreet and private equity firms literally ruining society aren't croaking fast enough.
No. 2079091
>>2078739You can't stop a body's panic reaction, but you can prepare for the conditions during a panic reaction.
Write down or rehearse all the possible questions. Then, make your heart race by running, doing jumping jacks, pushups, whatever exercise makes your heart pump. Then once it's beating fast, start practicing your answers. It helps your brain get used to anxiety symptoms, while still being able to think through them. Once you feel like you've gotten the hang of this, do it more, but instead of doing exercise and answering the questions, stand in an ice cold shower while answering. This mimics your body panic freezing, so you'll be prepared if that reaction happens
No. 2080257
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Is 3 jobs in 4-5 years a bad look for the start of a professional resume? I'm thinking of moving countries this time next year, but by then I'll only have been at my current role for 18 months, and I was only in my previous roles for 18 months and 12 months respectively. I just need a change of scene, I still live in my college city and don't want to be the last one left, but if it does damage to my career prospects then I can happily wait it out for another six months.
No. 2084114
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so what do anons do as a side hustle? i need beer money
No. 2084186
>>2084114>beer moneyIf you are willing to spend hours of your life, Survey apps.
Prime opiniom/Qmee are the two I use. Survey junkie I another. They pay out really quick and qmee let's you cash out whatever you make, prime opinion is 500 points $5, though it has a lot of cool perks for long term use.
Like every 7 days you get a prize of points if you do one survey a day. If you do 500 surveys you get like $20 etc.
Good for beer money.
No. 2084848
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Co-workers keep stealing and doing my tasks. I know I'm slow and that I suck but it's annoying me. One of them I've even already finished, was then told not to do it because it will be part of another story, but now the same co-worker is literally trying to do exactly that one. Wtf.
No. 2086704
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>>2086368I don't know what yours is but yeah WLB is pretty good so I can't complain there. We also pretty much never have to stay past 5 and I can get time to screw around if I don't have much to do.
>presumably senior devs to beg for adviceThere's not much advice I can ask because everyone on the team is new, including the seniors, so we're all going off of little familiarity with the background and context of this project. I'm also all remote, although that's not exactly a plus for me as entry-level, because my messages online are constantly being ignored. I knew that would happen which is why I wanted a team that meets up in-person at least 2 or 3 days a week, as much as I despise working in an office. Much harder to be ignored and forgotten about when in person.
>do the guys give you a lot of troubleWell I'm also
>>2084848 so see that. But I experienced constant small sexisms since being a CS major, like getting what I said repeated back to me by a moid word for word as if it was his original thought, so nothing exactly new.
No. 2086882
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I just got my first office job after doing various smaller jobs over the years. I start Monday. I'm a bit excited but I'm also so nervous I'm beside myself. Wish me luck, nonnies. I'm gonna try being a normie now.
No. 2086913
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hey anons, weird question - I have a job, but I have been applying to others for a higher wage. None of them have responded to me… and I'm wondering if it's because of my resume. It's bare bones, includes my work history from 2016 onward, description of tasks and responsibilities, also notes my education and skills, but look at picrel. Should I be doing this? I'm almost tempted to start putting a professional photo of my face in there (or even do an AI professional photo lmao) and make it more decorative.. I'm a millennial so I thought that shit was annoying to employers but maybe I was taught by old fucks who don't get it
No. 2087208
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Is it a bad idea to get a drastic haircut right before starting a new job? Currently it's Demi but I prefer being Poot. It's not a customer facing role.
No. 2087572
>>2087561Same. My advice to you is for if you get a office job again is for you to work less and talk more. These type of environments hold being social to a higher degree than how hard you work.
Spending more time being social amd charismatic will fix those issues with the bullying.
No. 2089944
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Nonnies who have personal websites, which host did you decide to go with? I started making one on Notion, but I'm hesitating because it gives you a randomized url and you have to upgrade to a paid subscription to change it. There's also wordpress, squarespace, I was even thinking about making a neocities but I wasn't sure if that would seem too unprofessional…
No. 2091139
>>2086913i would personally NOT do this, it makes you stand out in a bad way (imo). i only helped hire once but i have helped college students with resumes and my advice is always keep it simple and let your degrees/experience/certifications speak for themselves with short description, consistent formatting, and check grammar/spelling multiple times. afaik resumes like this make employers roll their eyes but maybe that's just my experience
>>2089430idk my coworker used to work at a place like that and retarded moids tackled her
No. 2091709
>>2089444>bulliedI am quite respected by my colleagues and supervisor but nice try.
What are you saying is based on your goals. HR and executive types think you should be nothing but a chatterbox "team player" that is a carbon copy of Leslie Knope no matter where you are, all the time, but the moment I entered my team the pressure to be like that has been non-existant if you're not into ladder-climbing. It's usually only an expectation once you start wanting promotions. That's all.
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I’ve been working on starting my business. Basically speedrunning it because I want money coming in. Everyone in my family is excited for me and my mom is even financing the startup money. The only one who seems against it is my husband. Earlier this year I signed up for retard bootcamp but shocker nobody was hiring. I feel bad because I told my husband it would be a really good idea to find something else for me. Now I’m doing the same thing with this business. earlier today I got a permit and when I showed him the receipt was stapled to the front and he freaked out that it’s putting us in the red for this month. I just want this venture to be worth it but unfortunately it’s in dog walking so guaranteed not a lot of money unless I expand which I plan on doing if it goes well. My goal is to be successful enough to have a fleet of dog walkers and make them pay me a fixed percentage of their earnings.
No. 2094428
>>2094329Thats what I plan on doing. I thought about working for another business but I was told they’d make me sign a contract so I couldn’t open my own.
>>2094326I called a small business help line and they sent me a checklist on things I needed. An occupancy permit for my home was step 2.
No. 2095245
>>2094428I would start by considering yourself a sole proprietor and only spend time and money registering a business and getting kennel permits (I assume that's what they were talking about) if it scales up. I've been self-employed for three years and have seen little benefit in registering my business considering the extra work involved.
If you signed up for Wag or something similar, they would likely just deactivate your account in the unlikely event they found out you were dog walking off the app, so it's no big deal. The only way they would find out is if you told the clients you booked through them about your services using their messaging system
No. 2095459
>>2094325Some companies will screw you over, but ime most of them are decently anonymous, particularly when they're administered by a reputable third party.
Your responses are absolutely tied and to your employee ID, and I'm sure that if an employee made a death threat in a survey, the survey company would deanonymize that user. But this is typically just used to get you to take the survey; at some companies I worked at, the survey company did not even give this much information, meaning that the whole company would get spammed with survey reminder emails over and over and over because 10% of the company was not filling them out.
Additionally, a lot of surveys still identify you by things like job title, location, or years of experience, which can easily deanonymize you, especially if you leave a written response. Most survey companies group respondents together and do not allow admin to have access to grouped respondents if there's less than, say, 5 people in that group, so their responses will only be included as part of company-wide ratings.
However, do not trust surveys that are administered by the company directly, and never say anything that will deanonymize you, as your comments are just comments and it can often be pretty obvious who would leave such a comment.
Anyways, just be diplomatic on your surveys. They're not a place to emotionally vent your frustrations, even if it feels good to air out your grievances. They're mostly used for bullshit metrics so that HR can justify their own jobs and as a justification for firing managers whose employees are unhappy for reasons that may or may not have anything to do with direct management.
No. 2095657
>>2095520Can you go to customers' homes and look after their pets? Of course you'd have to go through a lot more hoops, but it's something to consider if you want extra cash and you can't look after pets in your own home.
>>2095325This! Acknowledging your coworkers goes a long way. Point out how this person has such difficult tickets, that person is great at using the systems efficiently, that sort of thing. It can really help ease the pressure on everyone too.
No. 2096287
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I hate working with Indians, not going to lie. They constantly talk over you and talk way too much, literally just keep going on and on and on. Many of them are also not as competent as they think they are. I have to work one-on-one with one right now and he just ruined my workspace by making me delete it a bunch of times for no good reason even though it was working fine. He frequently doesn't respond in call (Just disappears without saying anything wtf). He often won't respond in chat unless I then send a message in the general chat too, after which he'll immeadietly respond because he's worried about looking like he's "not helping". You aren't, you asshole. Funnily enough, it seems he'll expect ME to reply immeadietly because he'll message me first thing in the morning with nothing but "Good morning" and "How are you?" which comes off just creepy, weird, and annoying to me. I hate people at work that message me without getting to the point.
No. 2096898
>>2096287I work with Indians too and they repeat themselves sooo much, it's weird. The moids also are so weird, especially if you're white. I've noticed that they also don't like if you says things like "sure" and "uh huh" to show that you're listening and understand. They literally will start over their sentence when I say "okay" so I just stay silent now.
Must be a culture thing because the women do it too.
No. 2097067
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this killed me
No. 2097957
>>2097067>>2097170This was me when I was looking for my first job and can confirm. You sound too smart or are too honest about your lack of experience, for a wagie job of all things, and you're out.
>well-dressedI hope the person in the post didn't walk in full suit and tie or something either though. lol
No. 2102968
>>2102854>>2102930Kek I would make the exact same "mistake"
nonnie. These unspoken work rules are fucking stupid. I'm glad people in the country I work in are autistic so nobody cares about shit like that.
No. 2103367
>>2103314She did not say whether the other team is in the same department or not, but it can happen internally. When I was an intern and reached out to someone I know in the same company that was in the same department and role but a different team, I asked her if there's anything I can help her team with (Because no one in mine was really giving me anything to do yet lol) and I was told no because that would be poaching.
Either way, she should probably look into the clause of her employment because it may have better information.
No. 2103609
>>2103367Hi, I’m the OP nona. It’s actually encouraged throughout the whole company for interns to experience doing small tasks for different departments when they have time (not every day, maybe twice or thrice a month max) to see if it’s something they like doing. You’re definitely right that this is something that isn’t super normal (or even acceptable) in a lot of companies, which is why I thought it was notable enough to mention as something that was most special about this particular internship.
I really do regret not saying anything about my team, who have otherwise been good to me, so I’m not trying to make it look like I’m a
victim. I am on the aspire spectrum though and stuff like this (as well as the emphasis on fucking 5 minute long steady eye contact when it’s so difficult but I still try my best) reminds me almost every day that this world might not be for me. The eye contact thing might seem random but people have literally complained about it. So many etiquette rules as nona
>>2102968 pointed out are so arbitrary and my least favorite part of work.
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I guess this is the best thread to ask this.
Anybody went/goes to Cambridge University? How is/was your experience there?
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Has anyone heard of this phenomenon called “overemployed”? It sounds much more generic than what it is—it’s a movement of people who are hoarding multiple full-time jobs to have total salaries of $200k+. A lot of these people are very senior in their careers but are purposefully collecting entry-level analyst and senior analyst jobs because it’s less responsibility supposedly (which directly fucks over the college grads looking for their first job). I would say the majority of them are gen X/millennial age and many of them are in tech but also data analyst/business analyst roles. Many of the posts talk about making $300k per year.
I looked into the economic data on this but it unfortunately doesn’t reflect the actual numbers because most people are trying to do this under the table to avoid tax liabilities and the companies finding out. Personally I’m very concerned as to if this multiple job culture is going to fuck us over in the long run because there will be even more of a shortage of jobs to go around, particularly for young people who are trying to start their careers and have less opportunities to do so. Sure you could say that this has always been a problem but it’s definitely been exacerbated by the rise of remote work which makes these schemes easier to pull off…
The subreddit that I learned about this on is called r/overemployed if you nonas wanna check it out.
No. 2105367
>>2105252Omit certain things from your resume?
Though I got a lower wagie job with a degree listed on mine since I plan to go back to school myself at some point, they didn't care.
The most important thing is if you're going for a part time or wagie job, show them you can meet the requirements for what they want esp if you have any past experience in that field unrelated to school (i.e. when I was in college the first round I worked customer service the entire time)
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There's these pyramid scheme jobs called devilcorps that fucking plague my local listings and while I'd like to get a better job than my current possibly starting off in marketing all these fucking MLM ass door to door selling inside Costco losers are obscuring the legitimate jobs. Picrel is one of thousands of their spawn.
No. 2105450
>>2105099>phenomenonHow is that a phenomenon? There have always been people holding down multiple jobs.
I fully support it when people are not being paid what they're worth and work for an employer that would lay them off without thinking twice (Which is most employers in the US). You don't owe a company any loyalty and your loyalty will never be recquited.
No. 2105485
>>2105450nayrt, but it’s because a phenomenon is simply “a thing that happens”. and yes, as you have pointed out, people working multiple jobs has been a thing that happens for a long time now. some examples of other phenomena would be solar eclipses, taking a shit every day, and burning dinner because you got distracted and forgot the stove was on.
anyway, regarding the subreddit, it popped up as a suggestion in my home feed once a while back. seemed interesting, so I browsed a bit. users seemed a bit smug (but that’s most of reddit). it does feel shitty when you can’t even find 1 legitimate WFH job and you read all these posts from people with 2-3.
No. 2106451
>>2105367So were you open about how you were planning to return to school during interviews? Sounds similar to my situation.
I'll include the retail job I worked during the pandemic in my resume but not sure if I should omit my more white collar jobs (or maybe I should just focus on the aspects relevant to the positions?)
No. 2106803
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I need help. I was a teacher for one year but left the job because it gave me severe anxiety, to the point where I couldn't function like I normally would. It wasn't the workload or the schedule, it was getting in front of a group of 25 students (adults, not kids) and having to speak. The stress and anxiety around having to do public speaking actually caused my epileptic disorder to get worse kek. So I left the job.
Now I've been jobless for 3 months, constantly applying to jobs I actually want to do and that are more solitary than teaching. But out of sheer desperation I applied for a teaching job on a whim and literally the next day the school contacted me and asked for an interview. I said yes but now I'm shitting myself because I would rather drink acid than do teaching again. But no other job has contacted me and I'm desperate. The interview hasn't happened yet but I feel like they're going to make an offer because I already spoke to an HR manager and she made it sound like they were desperate.
Nonnas, if they make an offer do I accept it? Or should I wait in case one of the other jobs I actually want contacts me? I really do not want to teach again because the public speaking aspect fucked me up mentally and physically. I don't know what to do.
No. 2106816
>>2106451I mentioned I was considering going back to school, yes. They don't mind since I'm basically part time right now, I was gonna crank my way up to full time but I hadn't had a job in months and it's not easy at the place I am to get fulltime hours unless you're a straight up manager. I'd like a second job but I'm very burnt out with job searching and interview type shit right now kek
I would say you could just include everything, apply to places, see if they respond, if they don't then maybe remove the more white collar positions. If you land an interview with the other jobs listed then just focus on the aspects related to the part time position at hand
No. 2106885
>>2106816Thanks for the advice! I appreciate it.
>>2106803I would say don't do it unless you're seriously in need of cash. There's very little more important than your health and from what you're saying it sounds like teaching had a serious impact on yours.
No. 2106983
>>2105485A "phenomenon" usually carries implication that an event is unordinary or can't be explained.
I don't think there is anything unordinary about people taking up multiple jobs anymore, with this economy, and it can be explained why when a single job is insufficient.
>does feel shitty when you can’t even find 1 legitimate WFH job and you read all these posts from people with 2-3What sort of skills do you bring? I am one of those people that have a side gig in addition to my day job but I also bring in a specialized skillset. Most people look for WFH jobs that are too generic (like data entry or filling out surveys), and they don't have a specific one in mind which is why they usually can't find any. If you have a niche to fill that would help. Stay away from WFH call center jobs, though. Those will make you kill yourself.
No. 2108794
>>2107334I’m curious what attracted you to each of these jobs. I’m not trying to be mean, but none of these are well-known for having particularly competitive salaries so there has to be something else?
A word of caution if you go into government work, especially in museums, is that you’re still affected by government shutdowns. Make sure you have a healthy savings to account for that. Also, work-life balance in many museum roles is nonexistent.
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does any nonnas have any exp reporting a manager to hr?
my manager has become a huge pain to work with - two tenured employees have been fired in the last couple months because of how strictly she's enforcing some guidelines (adjacent teams don't do this). another worker had resigned (with another job lined up) but left a day earlier because they were fed up with how she treated him. i/some coworkers have a bunch of personal examples of her lying/treating us disrespectfully/etc… another coworker told me that our last lead resigned because of her but didn't go too in depth about it.
hr has set up some meetings with some of us this week which according to our manager 'isn't anything bad' but 'sometimes they like to check in.' but she has been LOVE BOMBING our team ever since she made that announcement. it's crazy how responsive and kind she's become in the last few days, i know it won't last… but i'm wondering if anyone has had any GOOD experiences of reporting a manager to HR and something worthwhile happening..? im always paranoid that reporting someone could come back to haunt me but she is KILLING our team. i want something done but at the same time i'm at a pretty critical period of my employment and im scared to jeopardize it but i really want her reported because i can't imagine how many more people we'll lose due to her tyranny.
No. 2114245
>>2112668Out-SJW her. Butt in and demand to know why she's buying hair dye when that money could go to saving dying children. Ask if she's planning on donating to actual worthy causes instead of shoving her privilege in everyone's faces when she brings up an event she's going to or a purchase she made. Complain that she hasn't included trans Palestinian authors in her displays and hint at her being the evil of evils, a dreaded
TERF. Pester her to show proof of donations to whatever cause she's championing, then needle her about ignoring the ten million other causes she hasn't helped. Demand to see the donation amounts, if they're high be passive aggressive about how only the bourgeoisie can afford to give away money like that, if they're low bitch about how she's prioritizing her own first-world comfort and trivial needs over the literal survival of displaced Palestinians.
And develop a mental health disorder that you tell your boss about in private BEFORE you start doing this. That way, when she complains about you, you can explode at her for genociding you and complain to HR (or whatever library equivalent of HR you have) that she's causing a hostile workplace and targeting you because of your condition.
No. 2118111
>>2118082Online job, likely to be just as
toxic but in a different way. Or move. There really is no other option unless you throw yourself in a frenzy searching for one nearby and manage to snag it
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>>2121370First day is finished and it sucked. Was made to do work above my paygrade because they could see that I was not a retard. On top of that someone stole my work shoes while I was on a break.
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>>2127190Congrats and good luck on the interview!
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There's a moid at work that's always so rude and talks to me like I'm dumb. I bet he's a hamplanet that looks like picrel because he can barely hold his breath when talking. Gross.
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This is more for fun than anything, but lately I've been coming up with various low-effort, ethically dubious ideas for
scams "side hustles". Here's what I've thought up so far:
>content-farmingSpecifically, those inexplicably popular Reddit AITA videos where a godawful TTS voice reads out fake ragebait posts, sometimes set over stock music or random footage. Absolutely zero craftsmanship involved. Adsense doesn't pay much, though.
>Start a youtube subliminals channelAs discussed in this thread here
>>616008, some people apparently believe you can get rich, get thin, etc. by just listening to some music with whispery vocals laid underneath on repeat. Same issue as above with the adsense though, plus narrower appeal and more work involved.
>Selling "spells" to people on EtsySounds ridiculous, but there are thousands of listings for these. Similar to above, in exchange for you doing absolutely nothing (save for maybe sending them a picture of a burnt candle or w/e), people will convince themselves they've changed into a succubus, made a pact with a demon, or whatever else.
And finally,
>run a catfish fetish twitter accountYes, it's a real thing. Some moids get off to the idea of getting catfished (
https://gizmodo.com/catfish-fetishists-the-men-who-get-off-on-getting-scam-1835001978). Though a bot could likely do it, even being in proximity to men like these must eat at the soul, so I'm not sure any amount of money could be worth it.
IRL I think I'd actually feel too bad about taking advantage of others and/or putting out low-quality work to keep up with it for very long. Has anyone else considered (or done) anything like this?
also, sorry if this is the wrong thread No. 2132986
>>2132976Nail tech
Hair stylist
CNA
Office end of blue collar jobs (some of them ask for a bachelor's but some only need you to be able to use a computer)
Medical billing and coding (i believe you only need a certificate for this as well)
Daycare worker (some of them will need certification but they usually don't ask for a bachelor's degree)
No. 2133051
market oversaturation, unemployment, revolving door employment and diversity quotas would not be a problem if immigration and brain drain did not fuck everything up. now we get corrupted education and health system, with a bunch of useless degree mill sites and university shills on the side. i fucking hate current society. there is no trust. they want you to have a minimum of 4 year degree to even work permanently in a non-ghetto restaurant. even if you have a bachelor's degree in fucking burger flipping you can only get into the nice restaurant if your parents are best friends with the restaurant owner. this is such bullshit. i have a decade of experience in restaurants and i know how to cook, but only fast food places hire, and even they only want teens or stoner retards and alcoholics that they know won't quit. fuck these fryer cook shitholes. i legit got co2 poisoning because our vents aren't big enough. nobody fucking appreciates anything, every place is full of immigrant cronies or nepo babies… i am only here because my country is getting fucked off, aging out, 0 earning potential or purchasing power. but yet i hear retards screech about too many births destroying the earth. faggot, if immigration was banned, we would not have these problems.
No. 2133065
>>2133051yeah I agree lmao
also somehow immigrants who hardly speak English are getting important healthcare jobs. I was on the phone with my insurance provider and I had to repeatedly ask the woman on the other end to repeat herself. How does this even happen? Can’t you find an American born native, English speaking diversity hire if you need to meet a certain quota?
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I got rejected from a job I kinda really wanted. What gives? I got along with all the interviewers fine, I was acting confident and optimistic, was told I was a “fresh face”, I’ve done my research on the company and they seemed impressed with my knowledge along with my resume, was told I was one of the top 3-4 candidates whom are potential for employment. So, I’m not sure what went wrong?
It should be noted that I was originally contacted by a male attorney/HR for the past few days and was promised he would he would contact me sometime this week but today, I got a the letter from a female attorney who I also interviewed with.
No. 2134971
>>2133065It's always the shittest employees getting hired in all fields, at times it almost feels like you have to pretend to be worse than you actually are to get a good job
Restaurant industry is filled with apathetic bitchy crackheads, they'll fire happy but awkward people who can do their job but the nasty server who never washes her hands, ignores customers, etc somehow always has a job
Retail is all retarded old people who refuse to update their skills, so the younger employees not only end up picking up the slack but essentially play nursing home teacher, and despite all that it's young people that get told they're not working hard
Healthcare is filled with incompetent idiots. Lower end medical staff like CNAs are all ghetto, incompetent old people, etc and there are absolutely great candidates they just can't stop firing them kek
Blue collar is all retarded felon moids too
These places absolutely have a better choice of candidates, why do they have the worst ones? Who knows. I myself even found it easier to keep a job if I was lazier, showed up late, etc where as when I was pristine, always early, polite, willing to work as hard as I need, etc that was when I was being denied left and right or fired every week
No. 2149091
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sooo am i supposed to let senior coworkers bust my ass and be rude to me? can’t tell if i made the wrong move by standing up for myself or not. like was i just supposed to take it?
>what happened
basically got told x task was optional by both my boss and a coworker during my downtime at a big convention, my coworker starts training me on x task while being extremely rude and calling me an idiot in all but words, i tell her i appreciate her guidance in x but i am no longer interested in it, she gets pissed off and calls my boss to tell her i’m being “difficult” and “not listening to her” — it was a whole thing. i didn’t get in trouble at all though (my boss actually spent a long time apologizing to me for this coworker) but things have been tense and annoying with her ever since.
No. 2149221
>>2149126i live in an at will state and i feel the exact same way. i think it's a very real fear in my case, don't know if you're in a similar situation.
>>2149102thanks.
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The unforseen circumstances being: them realising they can put up 2 part time vacancies for the role instead.
So rotten.
No. 2155812
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okay nonnas.. here is my predicament.
i recently graduated with a degree in social studies secondary educ and i currently work as a special education aide in an elementary school. i feel somewhat unfulfilled though.. i would kind of love to get a job teaching world history or something like that but another part of me wants to escape into a more introvert friendly job. i already student taught so i am aware that i'm relatively good at teaching and students like my personality. but my dream job is more along the lines of archival work or being a librarian. i also have thoughts of being a mortician or do some kind of cyber work. i just am not sure how to go about thinking about what is right for me. i would like to one day at least live outside of the us for a little bit, but i am unsure that my career path as an american teacher would be much help there. i kind of would love to just be a librarian or archivist and get my masters degree in one of those… but i'm just not too sure about the job prospects. also, teaching in the us is starting to frighten me due to the political state of education atm…. i just feel lost and i need guidance i suppose
No. 2156279
>>2155812What
>>2156228 suggested is nice. Lots of people from my country teach English to students from Asian countries and they like it. Of course, I don't think any native is necessarily good at teaching their own language so there is that.
Outside of this you can work in social services doing data retrieval, admin and background checks but that's more along the lines of office work.
No. 2156288
>>2156246never put color on a resume
nonnie. black and white always.
No. 2156989
>>2156288I guess it's different depending on the country because I remember having a class in college on how to make resumes and cover letters, and the "perfect" examples always had one bit of color in it in a way that makes the structure clearer, most templates I find also do this
>>2156500I'll do that, thanks nona
No. 2157555
>>2156500So, before my last job, I would have agreed with this. But I am dealing with the (stupid) problem of being overqualified for a lot of the positions I am applying for. (I need the money while I wait for my dissertation defense, and the job market in my field is pretty dead at the moment.) I made a new CV in Canva and it immediately got me to the second stage of interviews for a nicely paid position. When I say "immediately," I mean the assistant called me on a Saturday after I submitted my application on Friday. It's clear that CV helped me stand out. I made it very professional-looking, though, and thought a lot about how to use color strategically.
The CEO then called me and said it was wonderful meeting me and he wished he had a better position to offer, but I'm far too overqualified for the position he is filling. Sad only because I need the money and cheaper insurance from a job asap.
So, anyone have tips for overqualified applicants? I don't want to lie on my CV. I've already cut it down to one page and I moved all my publications and talks and teaching experience to another site (gave a link to that site). I have done everything differently to pitch myself to a non-academic employer and I also am not applying for positions where the employer obviously wants a person who will stay for 10 years. I'm just a bit frustrated. I had a great feeling about the interviews with that company (I could tell the CEO was impressed with me and liked me) but in the end, I got rejected for the exact same reason as before.
I wish employers understood that completing a PhD in any field means you are looking at someone with extensive research experience, who can solve problems on their own and also complete a lot of work quickly. I'm continuing to apply in my field too but it's the "summer abyss" where nothing is really even advertised right now. October will begin the next wave of stuff in my field, but I need a job before then to apply for permanent residency here.
No. 2158487
>>2157516Congrats
nonnie! I’m sure those 2 months will go by faster than you think
No. 2160400
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Today the stupidest thing happened to me. I was having a meeting with some of my managers. At some point one of them, (a black guy ) mentioned going to visit a monkey farm with his family. My retarded ass thought it would be funny to make the this joke: « Haha you will be able to say hello to your higher ups » by that I meant his bosses. 45 min later I’m pull out for an investigation because I made « a racist comment toward a colleague ». I was so chocked that I just spent 1h crying in the meeting room. I’m so fucking sick of this woke shit. I would absolutely never say anything racist to a coworker.
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I'm sorry for a long post but I have nobody to talk to
I want to fire myself so bad but I don't have the guts. I've been working at this company for 3 years and I'm on permanent contract. I'm a diagnosed autist and I know that some people don't like me because of my lack of social skills and it's ok, I don't blame them. My problem are the double standards and the fact that I'm not being treated as well as my other two female coworkers who are on friendly basis with our shift leader, or my male coworkers who bring her chocolates and shit and she kinda brushes off their mistakes. I just can't be like… this. I just want to work. I don't talk during work. I sometimes have to do two things at once, run from one place to another, meanwhile my two coworkers only have one thing each and they just lie on their desks and chat with each other for 40 minutes… And when I try to bring this up (and only because I was confronted by my team leader) I'm not taken seriously. I mean you can look at numbers and see who does more… I'm so tired. I'm so bad at talking and explaining myself. I had one male coworker who was interested in me romantically and we started seeing each other. I tried to keep it private at work. But people found out anyway and I felt like since then, the two female coworkers from my shift totally rejected me.
One week ago I got a terrible bacterial infection, with a 40 degree fever, and I got prescribed antibiotics by my doctor. I couldn’t work, I texted my team leader and said I'm sorry. I thought it wouldn't be a problem since that was literally my second sick leave in the span of 10 months (my immune system is so bad I catch colds basically every 2 months but I still come to work sick, unless it's really bad, with high fever, like it was last week). Meanwhile my team leader responded with
>We are really busy at work right now. I really hope your absence isn't caused by my boyfriend's name vacation
I couldn’t believe this. Yes it just so happened my boyfriend was on vacation, but that assumption was so rude, and I literally saw my boyfriend only once when he did my groceries because I was too weak to get out of bed (we don't live together yet). To prove I'm being truthful, I sent her a note from my doctor and a photo of my antibiotics (I was not obligated to do so, mind you, I live in Netherlands where you can just call in sick without providing any further medical information and your employer has no right to ask you for it). No response. Today I came back to work and I confronted my team leader about it. She said she had the right to suspect that, and that my other two female coworkers were also complaining to her about the "strange coincidence" regarding my absence and my boyfriend's vacation. She said that even our manager found it suspicious and wanted to know what's up.
The manager, mind you, who slept with his young employee, got her pregnant, and got her a better job to make her comfortable during her pregnancy, and wasn't even degraded in any way because of that "romance". I mean, people like this want to tell me my behavior was "suspicious"? Especially when I provided proof from my doctor that I was actually sick and put on antibiotics?
I felt kinda mind broken during that conversation and I just said it's not fair, and I just randomly brought a couple of examples of me working hard when others talk, and she said something like "I heard a completely different story from the floor". Basically everything I said was turned against me. So why is nobody confronting me when I'm at work, and my coworkers only talk behind my back to our team leader when I'm sick at home? I could've said to her how one of my coworkers is literally always late to work, but nobody reprimends her and it's laughed off as a joke. I could've said many other things. But for some reason nobody would ever take my words into consideration. My boyfriend got pissed off when he found out about that conversation. One month ago he told our team leader that he plans on changing jobs in January, and he told her that precisely to give her time to find and prepare someone else for his place, since it takes time to teach someone new. Our team leader really doesn't want him to leave. I heard only good things about him even way before we started dating, he's like the backbone of our department, and it will be hard to find someone to replace him. My bf was also offered to become the new shift leader. But he refused, since he's really critical towards the overall policy of our company and he doesn't like the way people are being treated here, thus the desire to change companies (he's not the only one, more and more older employees leave this company). And I think that it's another reason for this strange tension in our team, and it has to backfire on me for some reason. God if I only wasn't so afraid to change jobs…
Anyway, the team leader said that if I want we can all have a conversation (her, me, our two female coworkers and my boyfriend) to make some things clear. My bf said that he will only agree if the manager will be also present there, since my bf has lots of criticism towards our shift leader, team leader and overall policy, and he wants the manager to hear it, he also thinks that our coworkers won't be so aggressive in the presence of the manager. I'm kinda worried it can backfire on me and they can for example move me to another department, and changing places now would be too stressful for me. I don't know what to do. I feel like our TL and TC will side with our female coworkers, and me and my bf will be alone, and it will backfire against me the most, since my bf wants to change jobs anyway, and he's actually valued. What would you do in my place?
No. 2162624
>>2160823You're quite literally being bullied at your workplace, and I'm so sorry you're being singled out due to not being as social as everyone else.
> I'm kinda worried it can backfire on me and they can for example move me to another department, and changing places now would be too stressful for me.But do you really want to work with people who don't respect you and think they can step all over you? I'd suggest getting a new job since the place sounds miserable, especially with your boyfriend going away, but I know it's easier said than done.
I personally would have the meeting and then list my issues with them (basically everything you wrote down), all the while actively looking for a new place to work at because there is a good reason why people are leaving. I'm sure they won't be as flippant about it when there are 2 people complaining. Once all the hardworking employees leave they'll understand. Or they will hire someone else to fill your role and the cycle will continue, who knows.
No. 2171472
>>2171448I wanted to grow up and be an illustrator, it did not work out haha.
Right now I'm taking care of my grandmother who has Alzheimers, honestly don't know what I can do career wise. Probably kill myself after my parents die tbh.
No. 2171549
>>2171516> I’m scared for my life but it’s way more refreshing and challenging after my anxiety neetdom era. I can’t lose any more years.My feelings exactly. Rooting for both of
nonnie. The time will pass either way.
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>boss asks me to type up all my duties and responsibilities
>also asks the same thing of everyone else (supposedly)
>big folder on sharepoint where we upload what we’ve documented into folders named after us, only myself and two others out of a team of ten have uploaded stuff…and i have WAY more stuff uploaded
>boss has reassured me multiple times that i’m totally not getting fired but she also asked me for a status update
>everything “due” december 27th
i can’t tell if it’s all a big ruse to ensure i tamely and accurately write stuff down for the next person to take this position or what but i’m anxious as hell. should note we’re (or i’m) doing this solely for the sake of having actual documentation supposedly
No. 2176044
After this apprenticeship I think my bosses will want to hire me for real. I need the money, but I really don't want this job anymore. I was so ready for the web dev company that wants to hire me after I finish their programming course. Oh well. I guess staying a few more months wouldn't hurt.
>>2172498>I can't adapt or be a normie no matter how hard i try, because it's not who i am and im tired of modeling and trying to turn myself into something im not and don't want to be.I don't get it. Are you saying that merely getting a job is too hard for you because it implies becoming a "normalfag"? Like you hate conforming to society so much that working is an attack on your special snowflake person? You sound terminally online tbh, and that's nothing to be proud of. You don't need to become a complete "normie" and forget your entire personality and interests to be able to function in society, AKA having a job like any adult would.
There's a lot of things I want to do, but aside from that, I need to pay my parents back for all they've done for me, and not being able to afford living on my own as an adult is worrying, so I gotta transition from being a parasite leeching off my parents to becoming a responsible adult that can cover her basic necessities on her own. So far, I'm earning minimum wage, and help pay the bills. I want a lot of things for myself, but being able to afford living alone is perhaps the first goal every adult should have, whether you're living with family or not.
You think all those people who have to keep working to survive wouldn't like to retire, relax and do something fun with their lives instead of working? The other anons are right. Seems like you haven't thought about your future seriously yet, or at least haven't realized that one day you could find yourself alone with no money and have to start planning what to do when your parents/grandparents/whoever's letting you live rent-free dies. Probably because your livelihood has never been in danger.
The moment you stop being a parasite and get a job, the moment you stop thinking about how boring your life is and start being shouted at by a boss, you'll turn into what you call a "normie" and forget about all those trivial worries. Trust me, it happened to me.
Doesn't mean I have stopped liking things, though. Being able to play video games on a PC I built and bought myself with my own salary, little by little over 10 months, feels amazing since I know I earned this. I wouldn't have been able to afford it had I not got this job and now that that's done, I can now focus on other things I wanted (while helping with the family expenses, of course). Also, being the best at work feels good, so it's not so bad. Not every job is for everyone, but I found one that I'm good at, where I only have to interact with a few people (and those people appreciate my geekiness) and that can be fun at times (it's more the bosses and coworkers that I have a problem with). When I come back from work I can relax in my room and play or draw on my new PC for two hours. One day I'll get a better job with better pay that could give me more freedom and time to do as I please, but I'm still young so I'm not in a rush. Things will happen when they need to happen.
And other than survival, I guess my end goal is to just enjoy life and do the things I've always wanted to do. Like I said, everybody would like to do that.
>>2172435What's TELUS? I googled it but the descriptions are so confusing and vague. And I'm trying to visit their jobs section but my browser won't let me in because of a potential security risk.
No. 2177550
>>1962941I've been looking for a full-time job in this field for 5 months now and I couldn't get past the first round of interviews for the same retarded reasons:
>no customer deal>interesting profile but it's not what we're looking for>not enough experience ma'amReally, I'm that close of giving up and my savings are getting low. How long can I keep this up?
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>>2176768I didn’t get layed off but I found the perfect job last year and fumbled it this year because of imposter syndrome. I felt like I didn’t deserve my position and everyone was better, smarter and more educated than me. I couldn’t play the corporate game. I would literally tear up if someone did small talk. Now I’m on unemployment instead of working at a nice skin care company and getting free face masks. Has anyone tarnished their entire life because they felt like they didn’t deserve anything good? How do you stop this shit
No. 2177576
>>2177558You need therapy. This mindset won't go away on its own. Don't belittle yourself or your problems, that's a real issue that had a huge impact on your life, don't uwu teehee it away. Female socialization is a curse istg.
You haven't ruined your life beyond repair, btw. You need help, but there's nothing keeping you at rock bottom except yourself. See this as an opportunity to work on your issues and make progress on fixing whatever gave you that inferiority complex before you apply for a job.
No. 2182447
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I fucked up so hard at work, I was having trouble opening a safe and had asked three separate three separate times for help. Turns out, only me and one other person are allowed to know the combination and my manager pulled me aside about it, I could only confess to one of the instances because I was too scared to admit the other two. I wish I could hurry up and get fired, this mistake feels too big to come back from
No. 2182457
>>2181901I feel you. I switched jobs after being poached by a recruiter. Three months later, there's a "mandatory company meeting," at which they announced >20% layoffs.
I was included in them. I feel so, so resentful towards the company that hired me.
Best of luck to you nona.
No. 2182481
>>2182447*three separate people three separate occasions kek
>>2182469I do wish I had been told sooner, but maybe it should have been obvious, the safe is to hold keys to open cabinets that primarily only me and the other person get into.
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work is making me feel suicidal even though it's a very cushy job and there's nothing i should be complaining about (fully remote software dev). but even so before my work day starts i feel dread and nausea coming up that doesn't leave until the day is over. i have no motivation to work on anything and every time i get a microsoft teams notif it's like a jumpscare. i hate talking to other people and being in meetings and implementing useless features that are only there to make the company owner richer and bring no real value to anyone. i hate having to fake that i actually enjoy spending my time for this work place when i have so many hobbies that are an actual improvement to my life. also even though it's supposed to be more likely, there are no autistic weirdos at this software company again and it's like i'm the only one that's not well-adjusted and sociable (and almost everyone is male). why the hell are these people even willing to meet up after work and do things together. you aren't even getting paid for this??
and i know i'm in an privileged position to even whine about a job like this and something must be wrong with me for not being able to suck it up because i know a ton of people would love to have a job like this. but if life is usually worse than this how are people still alive…..i don't get why people are even bringing more children into the world since that just makes them work even more. just for those children to have to work one too it's making me go insane.
i also think what's difficult for me is that i can't 'just work' a mental job for 8 hours straight just because i'm supposed to at this specific time. it's different from a retail job where even if i'm absentminded and cry in the bathroom i'm still there for 8 hours and just have to hide the sniffing or crying. but when i feel like shit (which i also often do even on non-work days) i can't focus on anything at all and then after multiple work hours i still can't get myself to even write a single function. it's not even difficult work and i've enjoyed programming since i was a child but i still can't get myself to do any of it and i just want to tell everyone to kill themselves or to isolate myself and then quit.
i know this sounds more like a rant but i'm genuinely at a loss what i should do. i thought once i graduate and leave my former (already pretty comfortable) software company i will not have this feeling anymore since it's fully remote but nothing has changed except it's full time work now. if i can't even mentally deal with one of the easiest jobs out there i don't know what to look for next. working part time would probably help since any sort of stress makes me break down already but you can only apply for part time after working at a company for about a year and i'm not even close to that. other companies have listings for developers but they're all full time. i've also been thinking about just doing the bare minimum until i get fired and then living off unemployment benefits but that brings its own set of issues. and idk if i should do that forever. third option is killing myself.
No. 2187716
>>2187649i had a retail job for a few months before university and i was obviously much more exhausted at the end of the day but it never gave me this sense of dread (stress yes, but not dread). most of the time it was clear what i had to do and i could just turn off my brain and follow directions. i also had a few coworkers my age and no one had to pretend they actually had a passion for this job so we could just gossip about things together. at the end of the day i was also just done and didn't have to worry about it anymore. at my current job everyone acts like this is their meaning in life and they'd gladly work more hours since it's basically a hobby for them. the corporate atmosphere also just makes me sick. something about it is so unnatural that i just can't relax. like i said i know i'm lucky but sometimes i wish i could just go back and do my first job part-time instead (but maybe i just never got as depressed because i knew it was just temporary).
>>2187671yeah getting your productivity measured by how much you're accomplishing instead of just bidding your time is so stressful, especially if you're slower than expected. the actual programming at my job isn't so bad when it's just a clear task laid out but the second new (non-programming) technology comes into play and it's 'oh ask person X for more information' and 'for the deployment check with person Y' and i know literally 0 (which they should be aware of..), but i'm somehow still expected to figure it out. that's when my productivity goes the lowest and i just don't do anything the whole day except be worried i'll get contacted because someone wants to know my progress (but i can't even enjoy the free time because i'm overwhelmed and feel like shit).
i also really relate to those 8 hours being less productive than a 4 hour work day. when i know it's only a few hours it's much easier to just focus and get it done instead of knowing there's still so much time left for even more afterwards. your previous part-time arrangement sounded pretty nice. also 40 hours (or more) per week is such a big chunk of your life and i'll never want to sacrifice so much of my time for something so meaningless anymore. it completely sucks my soul dry and i can't believe it's not the same for everyone. at work it seems like most people don't even have actual hobbies anymore, since the rest of their free time is spent on their children/chores instead. and i don't want to end up like that. so i'll follow your advice and really just do the bare minimum kek. maybe i'll get a psych diagnosis after getting fired (as that helps with unemployment benefits and finding a part time job too). imo make the most out of your unemployment and enjoy the extra free time with friends and hobbies and passion projects that actually bring you joy. obviously you need some money to live but otherwise no amount of money is worth time (except if it means you can buy more time).
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This is a psa for nonnies to not over exaggerate on their resume lies and to always remember what you lied about. Since I’m an immigrant I spiced up my resume with realistic lies because who is going to fact-check in another country? Despite not using excel for a number of years and taking the course twice and even tutoring people I’m extremely rusty. My boss at the time could tell and would always berate me for “overselling” myself and even “lying” despite that not being the case. It got so bad even coworkers were questioning my knowledge on the oilfield industry because I had past oilfield jobs. Now you’re probably wondering what I lied about. I lied about having a stable work history and working at my family’s business from 2019-2022. That’s it.
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>>2187791Yes, I had it a lot in my 20s. You should dress like a millennial and do your makeup as such for interviews.
No. 2188072
>>2187733nah your boss berating you over excel is pretty dumb though kek, you can be pretty masterful with it if you know how to google even halfway decently.
t. googlefu warrior
No. 2188205
>>2188092Excel isn’t something I used every day when unemployed so I lost a lot of knowledge. Still can use a lot of basic functions and fundamentals.
>>2188072Google was my best friend lol. Idk what his damage was I think he thought I came from money.
No. 2190721
>>2190691Kek anon that’s hilarious, I’ve had so many recruiters ghost me too. UPDATE but this person ghosted me after I told her I can’t give referrals since I just started, but that I am happy to answer any questions and give her information that will help her strategy to get in at my company. My company is really competitive to get into so I was just gonna tell her to apply for whatever job she thinks she has the best chance of getting and don’t try to stretch it. Then she can change departments (most new hires are all internal and everyone constantly switches departments).
I don’t want to gatekeep but I feel like it would look bad if I try referring someone to random people at my company that I don’t know considering I just started here. She is trying to switch industries/roles so she doesn’t have related or striking Fortune 100 work experience that I can leverage in this case. I’m fine with her putting my name down as a “How did you find out about this job” btw but my career mentor also once told me to never give references for people unless I personally worked with them.
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wtf this is an option on a job app i'm filling out. i have absolutely no idea what to do. do i opt out or now
No. 2193342
>>2193236This is why AI is not the technological breakthrough it's advertised to be.
It's literally the lowest common denominator. It can only drag us all down.
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>heard fed insurance is hot
>worse dental benefits than the shitty little non-profit I worked at
No. 2194032
>>2187716NTA and maybe a stupid question but why not change fields and aim for a non-corporate job? If you're suffering all day long, even working from home, the pay cut might be worth it anon. If I understood correctly, it's your second time feeling like this at that kind of job, so it just sounds like it's not for you.
>>2193189I know nothing about contract work so I don't know if not renewing your contract after only a few months could reflect badly or if it's totally normal (?), but if it's not an issue and you had planned to leave anyway, then leaving sounds reasonable. Then again if you're ready to leave, why not try to ask to change teams first or speak to your boss? If it doesn't go well, you can just stop in December. It's hard to give advice on those kinds of things but it seems like the cons outweigh the pros. Stay strong nonna, I feel you because there's a male I absolutely despise at work, he ruins my mood, but he's the only issue I have so I don't want to quit only because of him..
No. 2195002
>>2194032>speak to your bossI'm worried my boss would just side with him. He doesn't seem to have seen anything wrong with his behavior so far and even exhibits some of his traits, like interrupting and talking over people. Since I'm the less knowledgeable and experienced colleague, I think that works against me too. He may just tell me to listen to him more or something since he "has more experience" than me. And as difficult as it is to work with him personality-wise, he DOES sometimes help with my issues at work. More often than not, he does not though..since I either end up just figuring it out myself or his feedback is completely vague, useless, or just nitpicking. Mostly, he is just a condescending son of a bitch (And I'm in tech, so that's 99.9% of moids in it, anyway).
>Stay strong nonna, I feel you because there's a male I absolutely despise at work, he ruins my mood, but he's the only issue I have so I don't want to quit only because of himThank you. For the most part, this guy is pretty much my only issue as well. Most of my other colleagues are patient, understanding, and actually approachable. This guy just acts completely unprofessional.
No. 2197584
>>2193189Is there an opportunity to become office friends with other people on your team? I became buddies with everyone and it helped me feel better about the guy on my team who acts EXACTLY as you describe. Because I like to be nice and friendly at work, and he ruins my mood but I just pretend he straight up does not exist. Also fights off the internal idea that I'm incompetent because there's 1 smug prick, and 6 people who appreciate my work. My closer co-worker knows I fucking hate this guys guts and will ask questions we both need the answer to. We haven't spoken in a calendar month despite working very closely and I hope to keep it up.
I don't know if this is constructive advice but it's what I've done in my situation with a similar scrote.
No. 2198245
I successfully finished my apprenticeship and they hired me (pretty easy), but they also had a talk with me and my only coworker about a screenshot of one of our group chats that someone from one of those chats leaked. There's a fucking snitch in those groups. I highly suspect it was this moid that acted suspiciously uninterested when my senior ex-coworkers shared with us all the dirt they had on the bosses and accused them of labour exploitation (which scared me, ngl, but I've since realized that this job isn't that bad and the environment is decent).
The worst I remember texting in the chats is a summary of what my senior colleagues told us so the potential snitch knew what we were talking about, since he didn't seem to hear our conversation at that time. Terrible mistake. But oh well, my bosses seem to trust me and I didn't do anything wrong, it's just infuriating that someone would actually do that. Feels like a stab in the back.
I don't know from which of the two chats the screenshot was taken, or when it was sent, but it'd make sense if it happened shortly after I sent that message (several months ago), since, right after he quit, this moid almost confessed to me that he liked me, but he also admitted that he used to see me as competition, which I already suspected since we started working there. What a piece of shit if true.
No. 2200856
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Nonnas with PTO, do you prefer your vacation time front loaded or accrued? I just got an offer with a 30% raise from my current position that I hate, but the thought of having to earn vacation (10 days accrued yearly, unsure if it rolls over) rather than having it up front feels scary even if there's a small amount of personal time to fall back on. Maybe I should negotiate but I don't want to ask too much.
No. 2202035
>>2201729Smartest nonita I've seen post in a long time
I have a job with occasional downtime but I am a stupid idiot so I just read junk articles online during it
No. 2203644
>>2203084good luck
nonnie!
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I know this is immature/impulsive, but writing demand letters to my old landlord has actually made me consider becoming a paralegal. I really enjoy analyzing situations, organizing facts, and drafting precise& persuasive documents. It's so satisfying. Plus, the idea of eventually going to law school, becoming a judge, and making decisions in civil court drama would be fucking awesome. Can someone in law tell me what it's really like?
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I love my job but I'm struggling with something.
There's about 5 staff there, including myself, and volunteer educators and facilitators etc etc.
I'm the youngest person there at any given time, since almost our entire client base is the elderly.
All of my coworkers are over the age of 40, I'm 25.
I really fucking struggle to feel comfortable around my coworkers. They're all at LEAST 20 years older than me, and there's this massive like.. imbalance? I feel like they view me in the sense of a child/grandchild and not an equal. It's super hard to socialise with them or chat.
It's really thrown me off because all of the other jobs I've had, I've gotten along super well with coworkers my age, I've never worked somewhere that I didn't have coworkers my age until now.
Is this normal? I'm totally fine at my job, I just feel socially left out and I feel like I'm being retarded.
No. 2210520
>>2198876Same!!
I've become depressed due to burn out and it's made me careless with important work. I feel shame and have anxiety about being confronted about being a disappointment/fired so would rather quit than have that convo.
No. 2210885
>>2210520>>2198876>>2210871Being in trouble is fake
up to the point you are actually fired and only then is it real, being paranoid about wether you're in trouble is a waste of time and will drive you insane. If it makes you feel better then go to your boss and say you've missed a couple things but you are going to correct it and just need help with [xyz] thing to catch up. Most of the time they'd rather keep you than rehire and retrain and they'll be delighted to hear you're gonna catch up if they have even noticed you're behind.
The number of people who sit on their hands all day doing fuck all who don't get fired proves that you don't have to be the master of everything to keep your job.
No. 2220003
>>2219929I did this once to my first job after i quit. It was a shitty takeout restaurant so i called and immediately hung up a few times during their rush hour and they called the cops to my house KEK.
It did slightly amuse me though, so i say do it.
No. 2224929
>>2220078Should call him with another burner and just play man grunts saying vile porn lines constantly at 3am.
Or the next time a scrote does this:
> sir it sounds like you’re having a medical emergency! I’m going to put you on hold and contact emergency services, hang on! Help is on the way!!! That or record it and start sending it to the creep randomly and reminding him what a fucking worthless sack of shit he is and if you ever find out who he is you’re going to call all his loved ones and play them the recording so they can know what a passionate man he is. You bet his mom and dad’ll just be in the throws of ecstasy listening to him tug his little chili. God men are fucking dumb.
No. 2224953
>>2224950>self fulfillmentBuzzword. You are not empty.
Enjoy life, stop feeling like something is missing.
No. 2229544
>>2229500You'll probably be fine doing that for one day because everyone does it but in the long-term you should find out how much surveillance your workplace has on your work computer.
For example my workplace is fairly chill but uses the basic Microsoft options that log the number of emails send and automatically ranks programs you have open the most during your online hours, so I will only be in trouble if I'm so behind that someone notices and checks if the amount of time I spend in the programs doesn't match up to my work output.
Some workplaces are more strict and log numbers of clicks, keystrokes and detect automatic mouse jigglers.
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>be an anxious insecure mess
>finally get an internship, in a competitive field, but in a backend role
>many people before me quit, huge age gap in the field
>be well received by the team and boss
>almost twenty women to two men (both in the lowest position)
>first month
>boss tells me a story how they pressured one woman to leave the internship years ago because she was lazy and uninterested
>freak the fuck out
>have nightmares about being forced to quit
>months later
>ask oldest intern about that story
>while employed, the woman had a young child and a couple of twins a year later
>she was pressured to quit because "she would be to busy to work"
>they fucking fired a woman with three young children
>set back her career in four/five years
>since the field is small she was effectivelly kicked out of it
>all the people who pushed her to quit were women old enough to have grandchildren
>ie, boomers
jfc, how the fuck could you do that to someone. misogny is rampant in the field, even from young women (to the point i sometimes prefered to work with older senseless men rather than some women), women are asked if they want to get pregnant or if they have kids on interviews, but firing a woman with 3 young kids is beyond the pale.
No. 2231750
>>2231719Boomers grew up being taught that empathy was a weakness. My guess is that the young women were also afraid of being ostracized so they teamed up with their superiors/elders to protect themselves. But yeah misogyny is still alive and well and it fucks women's lives without mercy. It's really sad that your work environment is so
toxic, nona, I'm wishing you the best.
No. 2231775
>>2231719So they didn't even wait to see if she
would be too busy to work, they just decided
on their own that her home life didn't align with their company values or w/e and fired her pre-emptively? That's absolutely horrible.
No. 2231805
>>2231767it is illegal, but in our shitty country is still a pretty common thing. they can't fire per se, but they can and will bully the women out of the job.
the women can sue, but it will take years for them to get some kind of compensation, the people who kicked them out will NOT suffer any kind of admonishment, and the women get shunned out of
their careers. In the meanwhile they have young children to raise, and children are expensive.
>>2231785the kicker is that in this case all the women involved are from wealthy families with good social standing. the woman kicked was not. besides misogny there is serious classism in my job, because everyone from the older generations is from wealthy families.
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I did orientation for Target, but honestly… I'm too old for this corportate BS. The training videos, the group ideals, the bullshit to manuver. The only reason I accepted the PT job was because the listing was "ON DEMAND" and then when I arrived to orientation it was changed to seasonal, with no option to change my availibity. When I politely addressed this I was shrugged off and told to deal with it.
The kicker, during orientation, the HR manager told us that we get a 10% discount but if we sign up for a credit card, we get an additional 5% off. I immediately said "thats not really true, when you consider the average APR of credit cards for lower income applicants. If the APR is 20%, then it's still not worth the 5% discount. The HR lady was mad, but honestly fuck that.
I was happy to submit my resignation tonight kek. I didn't want to be a cashier anyways.
I already work 20 hours as an office manager. I am self managed and pick my own schedule. I want to pick up a part time gig, but honestly DoorDash makes me more money than any listing locally. The only thing that could be more lucrative would be a server's job.But even then, I am forced to abide but someone else's schedule.
My game plan is to keep DoorDashing and earn my certification in bookkeeping.
My end goal is to start my own small bookkeeping company and help small local businesses.
No. 2234868
So I recently started a job and it's changing my lifestyle. It's in a giant building and we have to walk far for anything (bathroom, water fountains, microwave, etc), even though it's an office job. I previously worked remote, and I was very inactive in comparison. I didn't have the energy to work out. Now at this job, my feet were always hurting for the first week. I must've been getting 5 times the activity I get farting around at home. But I'm worried it's going too far in the other direction. I have today off, and I can't sit still. I've rearranged my furniture, and I worked out. One of these activities would wipe me out, but here I am, still hyperactive…. I hope I'm not having a mental breakdown or something.
No. 2249457
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Compsci/programmer nonas, I need help. I fucked up by spending my 7 years of work without making much effort to get qualifications and expanding my knowledge in general. Then I shat up my life even more by hikkineeting for one and a half years after a traumatic event. Now I'm coming back to the area and I remember nothing. I feel like I know nothing about the current tools, at least not deeply enough to feel secure during an interview or day to day work. I honestly think I'll not even be called for a second interview, and even if I do, I'll 100% bomb a technical interview. Please nonas help me. How can I get back on track???
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>>2249457Programmer here. Is it a Software Developer/Engineer you're trying to be specifically? Don't worry about certifications, in that case. Recruiters don't care about those. I'm trying to get one right now but it's literally only because my employer would give me a bonus if I do. lol
>I'll 100% bomb a technical interviewI can't offer much advise there because I am absolute dogshit at online-assessment/leetcode type of questions and only lucked out getting by current job from a combination of having good referrals and it being a place that had a super easy technical interview - they didn't have any online assessment/leetcode type of questions for me to do, only asked very basic and easy programming questions like how I would create an instance in Java. Literally 99.9% of other places I applied to were giving me leetcode-style problems and I was crashing and burning at them, sometimes just literally walking away from my screen and giving up. And unfortunately, at least for entry-level roles, these are now what 99.9% of companies make you go through before you even get to an interview. They're a horrible metric for evaluating development skills and have nothing to do with an actual software development job though, so I hope you can luck out like I did. Leetcode is cancer and needs to die.
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>get a nice remote job from a nona's recommendation
>3 weeks later the job is obviously preparing for a mass layoff
why me
No. 2250889
>>2249801It's still possible to find work with SWE. It'll just be very, very hard because the entry-level market is now overrun with both people who graduated without even being able to write a for loop and recruiters who would never be able to either yet expect you to have written your own OS at the age of 12. This problem is still there whether you get a CS degree or not. It's just even worse without one. Finding an internship will also be really hard now, but it is one of the best ways.
Start CS degree -> Do internship -> Get return offer -> Accept return offer.
You should then be set by the time you graduate. Do NOT reject the return offer if you can help it. I did and then the company I interned with never wanted me back ever again, no matter how many times I re-applied. When I tried looking for other companies, it was like my internship didn't even matter anymore. The only way almost every other company I spoke to would take on entry-level people is if they were previous interns who accepted a return offer. Big companies vastly prefer applicants who have gone through their intern pipeline over external applicants.
No. 2254088
>>2254077disregard what she's doing and stick to what you know. It's a very common phenomenon of "knowledge gatekeeping" where people act like they're helping but they really withhold the good stuff. Or, shes actually trying to help but is just not as good as you.
Keep documentation of how your numbers dropped and will rise again after you switch back to your methods. If you get pressed about it, just be a robot and tell them you do what will bring the best numbers and have proof of documentation.
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I really recommend traffic control to anyone having a hard time searching for a job. Depending on where you live, its a short two day course thats open book. I started when I was 19 and now I'm 23 and make a living wage. Boring at times and demanding at others- you mainly work M-F from 7-3pm. Its a great job if you can stand and pays better than cashier/fast food. I really recommend it. I don't mind answering any questions anyone has. Good luck job hunting nonnies.
No. 2261161
>>2261150not sure what continent you're in obviously (or what your feelings on AI are) but in my area there are tons of places hiring for AI proofreading, training, etc. it's essentially contract work so I doubt they'd care where you completed tasks from as you only get paid for what you submit. maybe you could look up ai stuff in your area?
the other anon made traffic controlling sound pretty fucking good also kek
No. 2261205
>>2261161i'm from the united states. i mean truthfully AI feels morally wrong when it comes to the generating images thing because of the revenge porn that scrotes do to the women and even children that never asked to have their faces plastered on the AI images. and i don't believe that AI should replace hardworking artists who are trying to pay the bills with their own craft. but eh, i guess i could proofread AI slop since i enjoy editing people's work for fun. i don't know, i feel torn tbh.
the work from home jobs i've done were within the medical insurance industry, but with trump's win, i don't know how the job market there is going to react. the affordable care act being taken away surely means people would rather be without insurance than with it since its going to be very expensive, right?
but yea i just need websites that posts legitimate remote positions that aren't strict with the location part. thanks for the suggestions though!
No. 2265930
>>2265912Painfully accurate description of grinding into nothingness. I hope it works out for you. The only thing to keep in mind is, if you pursue a decision that is mid to long term, in couple years once you have reached your goal, the world already turned couple times too.
Small steps I guess.
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Any programmer nonas who work with freelance here? I'm trying to get into freelance work as someone who has a few years of work experience already.
Where do you go to look for work? What are the interviews like? What's the work like?
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I'm currently a para at an elementary school and I want to be a social studies teacher as that is my degree, but I'm so afraid I'll be stuck in special education because of my experience and I'm scared. I have to wait until close to Summer to apply for teaching jobs but fuck I'm tired of this. Elementary is not for me.
No. 2266018
>>2265974BE with a touch of FE development
nonnie here.
It's a bad time to be a freelancer, everyone I know who is contracting is getting let go. If you aren't working in AI, goodbye
>Where do you go to look for work?Linkedin or networking events my uni organizes.
>What are the interviews like? A lot of rounds of BS. I interviewed for h
*spt and it was 9 rounds of BS plus a project. 3 in person, the rest were calls. Fuck off
>What's the work like?Where I am right now it's pretty chill but if things go wrong it's all hands on deck. Being on call sucks but I get paid extra. I've worked in places where the jira tickets you pass are tied to you bonus. Never again.
I'm in fintech and it's pretty stable, but you know who knows
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I always feel like my success, or however remotely close I've gotten to 'success' at least, always feels like a stack of dominoes that's ready to fall over. I hate working in the U.S. because I feel like there is literally 0 job security outside of jobs in education or government here (Technically I'm a government contractor but I don't know if that makes things better or not). That's a big reason why I'm looking to work in another country. I don't care about making alot of money and I never will. I don't care about working in something interesting and that I have a "passion" for either. I just care about not being poor and not being sacked. Two things that are a constant existential threat for you in this country unless you're a cushy government employee. Ugh. I've worked so hard and gotten so much luck to get to where I am. What's the point if I still can't have some kind of security and still feel like I have the threat of having to move back to psycho mother's house looming over me daily?
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No. 2273786
>>2269079>>2273782i dont trust the extremes of trauma. both succumbing to hurt yourself further and going into harmful careers by re-enacting trauma and damage, aswell as trying with all efforts a career to ease the pain of others is a nogo for me.
But you are free to decide over your own values, thats really the good thing about it. just make sure you have clarity about what you expect and why.
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any golden neets out there do insurance adjuster claims? any tips?
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I might just be getting paranoid but I think my boss doesn't like me much, or rather, that she sorta looks down on me. So far at least, nothing that has affacted me negatively so I guess it doesn't really matter, but little things that annoy me and feed into my paranoia. There have been occasions in which I felt kinda suspicious about her preferring the intern over me, but I thought whatever, this intern got here months before me, there are things she's more familiar than me. But this intern left and we got a new one, and she gave him a task that I had already started and one of the most complicated things I saw since I started working there and she thinks it's better to give it to the guy who's been one week here? Either she thinks I'm stupid or she underestimated the complexity of the thing.
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>3rd year major in software eng & cybersec
>people saying the industry is cooked
>decide i need to lock in and network
>my job has its own tech sector that holds internships, also gives out scholarships
>used to be really shy at my job but start talking to everyone
>start forcing conversations with top bosses at my location i don't care if they don't care they will learn my presence
>ask for help with the scholarship in a "how can i best serve the company" way
>tell them i want to host events at work to help employees who are students get started on the scholarships available
>tell them i'm interested in moving up and want advice
>many are flattered i'd ask them (not sure why) and excitedly tell me all good advice
>they become interested and start coming up to me unprompted to have unrelated conversations, like telling me shit about stats of other depts
>i apply to the internship
>stalk and find out the names of people who work in our tech sector to reach out to them
>one tells me he's impressed by my huge balls basically, and schedules a meeting with me to discuss what i should be learning and says he's going to pass my resume on
>now we wait
i'm fucking locking in nonnies i'm sick of being poor. i'm literally telling every boss/lead/whatever here i want to move up, what i'm doing. even though they give the same advice as 99% of the others they still drop 1% of knowledge i didn't know before. now my co-workers come to me for advice regarding all the above as well.
for anyone who needs advice in reaching out to those in your industry, find someone who went to the same university you're going to, they'll be more inclined to respond. now I just need to start going to in-person meetings at this club i joined for women in tech at my uni.
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>>2286681hell yeah you go nona!!!
No. 2286832
>>2277323Are you sure you're still employed there? Did you give them a doctor's note when you were sick with covid? At most jobs you need to provide a doctor's note when you're out sick over three-ish (length of time varies by company) scheduled days or they will terminate you for job abandonment.
If you are still employed that's crazy not to schedule you for weeks. You would be well within your right to look for other work. Managers know they risk losing people when they don't schedule them and sometimes they do it on purpose to get rid of you. Unless they are communicating well with you and there's an end in sight to their slow period, you should probably consider this job over.
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Any nonnas have any experience with rude coworkers? I get along with all of my coworkers except one who negs me all the fucking time. I try to be nice to her but she goes out of her way to be insulting and treats me like a cretin for no goddamn reason. Seems like it's only me too? I'm fairly new to the team at a place where there's not many new faces so wonder if it's resentment.
No. 2287697
>>2287164what's your major? i'm in the US by the way, not sure if you are as well or if that changes anything.
you know how starbucks has that thing where they pay your tuition? find an entry level/retail/food job that does something similar. chik fil a also does internships apparently. start off there and let management know you're looking to grow with the company and ask about internships in their corporate part of the business. this is already easy for me to do because my company is huge in my state, ngl. another option is banks, i know a guy that got his tech job at one. i believe for usaa?
one of my leads has the same degree, but because he never pursued internships or low pay entry-level positions and expected high pay or junior/senior positions, he was unable to get a job. software eng is already oversaturated and personally i would prioritize gaining real world experience and having a stable job in this industry. tell them some mix of how you're looking for a stable career where you can apply what you've learned in college and gain real world experience.
>don't phrase it in a way where you expect to leave the company any time soon or when you get "enough" experiencedo research on the company and bullshit it like "i am interested in company poofart specifically because they do xyz and it really aligns with my interests in blahblah"
make sure your linkedin and handshake is polished because if you put yourself out there they will look you up. also look into what industry is even popular in your area and be open to moving if you have to.
if there are events like hackathon where anyone can go, definitely go. even if you're not participating, you want to stay up to date with the latest news and see what your peers are developing. a good time to socialize and introduce yourself.
join discord servers and stuff related to your school even if you already graduated to observe ideas from them/help current students (i know people who do this if that helps bc i know it sounds weird)
talk to everyone even if you don't think they have any knowledge about your field, you would be surprised.
No. 2287888
>>22876877 months of unemployment looks worse than 2 jobs in 7 months. Yes, put it on. And don't forget to sell yourself! You gained skills in these jobs, flaunt them!
Work culture has changed so much, unless you're applying to work at a retardedly old fashioned family business, nobody will give a shit. Only decrepit dinosaurs care about job hopping and tbh the old people at my last few jobs were fed up with shit wages and actively encouraged job hopping if it meant slightly better pay or pto. You'll be fine.
>>2287156Never let her find out that you're in any way affected by her bitchiness. Be super nice to her, try to talk to her only when there are other people around. Don't complain about her until you're 100% part of the team- if you need to say anything about her bullshit act concerned about her, wonder if everything's OK because she seems so stressed lately but you don't want to intrude on her personal life so you haven't asked her about it. Just ignore her and everything she says- she's trying to get you to fuck up.
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I have 5 months until I lose my job. Every resume rejection I get kills me inside because I know why. I had a series of 2 jobs where I stayed for only a few months (I am a very diligent employee, but these were family businesses run by unreasonable people wanting me to work 16 hour days, I was getting injured, having mental breakdowns… yes, lesson learned) so despite me working for a year and a half at my current position, I can’t even get an interview for positions below my current pay rate (it’s already low, I am a secretary). Hiring is glacial now due to the holiday season, I can’t even find any jobs to apply for because nothing new is being posted. I just feel so low. I got a 4.0 in college, I am really genuinely a dedeicated worker, I have glowing recommendations from all my current supervisors, but because of those two unlucky jobs, I can’t even get to the part in the hiring process where I could show them the recommendations and good references. They reject me immediately and assume I’m a job hopper. I just feel so hopeless and depressed. Like I’ve been shat on with such bad luck. It doesn’t matter how hard I try, I just wind up back in the dirt begging people for crumbs.
No. 2288674
I've only been at this job for a few months and it seemed really nice at first, but higher ups seemingly have figured out I'm fast and reliable and have decided to give me urgent tasks constantly. I had FOUR urgent tasks given by the same guy today, all due same day, all taking hours, and everyone pats me on the back about how reliable I am for doing it all but no one suggests taking some of the work away. I'm the only person with my skillset on the team, but I know for a fact the previous person in my role didn't do as much work (just looking at the files she left behind, how bad her work was and how little there is of it for the timeframe).
I know I fucked up by doing too well in the first few months and setting this expectation for myself, and now I'm getting punished for being reliable. Every time I finish one task I get three new urgent, bigger tasks. I feel like Sisyphus, every time I dare to tell myself I've managed to catch up to my deadlines new urgent tasks drop in my lap (none are ever actually urgent, but men in charge want them NOW so they're made urgent).
I don't know how to reverse this. My manager is well-meaning so I will try to talk to her, but the people giving me all the urgent work are her own bosses that I can tell she also struggles to say no to (even the literal CEO apparently has enough time on his hands to tell someone to tell me to do stupid "urgent" tasks). I am applying to jobs but the process takes a while, and I feel like I'm already at a breaking point.
No. 2288813
Finally got a start date for my next job after months of waiting! Now I just need to figure out how I will manage to move to a new town in a month.
>>2288558Omg Nonna are you me? Manager called me into his office to scold me for taking a week off due to fever induced tonsilitis. God forbid we wish to recover and prevent passing it on to others.
Hopefully you will not get sacked, replacing a worker is more work than it's worth for such a small issue.
>>2288674Honestly this is 100% on your manager. You've brough the issue up with her already and it is her duty to ensure you do not burn out. I'm not sure if you're in the position to do this, but seeing as how everyone knows you are useful, outright say that you're feeling burnt out from all the tasks and imply you might be looking at a new job if the tasks keep piling up. Don't let them take you for granted. Either that or ask for a massive pay raise.
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I have a job interview for a job that pays a lot more than my current job, and I'm so nervous about it. I just got lucky with the job I currently have, and I know I need to calm down and pull it together so I can do good at my next interview but it's so hard to.
What's more is, I am NOT looking forward to the fallout when I put in my two week's notice at my current office. My current office is super small, and they are not gonna be happy when I quit. But this job has no stability whatsoever… I've gotta get out of here. Small businesses are honestly kind of toxic- I have always heard they were, but I felt like I didn't have a choice. I was unemployed at close to being homeless when I took this current job.
I hope it gets better, nonnies.
No. 2308065
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>>2306532ghost jobs listings so the company can harvest resumes to dread their current employees into working harder and asking for less, have good numbers for investors when seeking money and fake agencies farm resumes and steal yours and put their candidates name on it, especially off shore agencies. i stg mondo does this. i wish news media would actually report on how awful it is to seek employment and how little opportunities there are unless you literally know someone. on team blind people actually straight up pay strangers for referrals, which is not necessarily a guarantee, just a chance at a job.
here is a tool you can use to search ATS job listings and prune fake listings.
https://job-finder.russellheimlich.com/ No. 2309830
My work keeps getting worse. I posted
>>2288674 before; since then, I've talked to my manager and learned my role used to be filled by three separate people (including two people in a senior role), they all quit, another person that I thought was some kind of freelancer was hired for the job for a few months and quit very quickly, then I was hired. The same guy who gives me urgent tasks is the guy who's denying my manager's requests to hire more people to help with my work. I do the work of three people and get paid not all that much for it.
I don't know if I should quit now when my notice period is still only one week, or stick it out until I get a new job offer, by which time my notice period will have been extended to four weeks (due to being past my probation period). My husband is encouraging me to quit and doesn't mind paying the bills alone if I'm unemployed for a time, but I feel so awful about it all. Is it worth it to try and stick it out? Would I be shooting myself in the foot if I quit now and I'm unemployed while looking for a new job? I feel like I can last a few more months if I have to, but the four weeks notice period sounds like it might be a deal breaker for some potential employers.
No. 2316004
>>2315895>>2315964You're off the mark. CS is oversaturated by now, but you're right as a minor it means basically nothing. They'd rather hire someone with it as a major if its a programming related position.
>>2315895Maybe you can get some cloud certifications, that could get you pretty far a couple years back i don't know about anymore. Did you shoot for internships? The interdisciplinary major + CS seems like it could leverage really well into something like technical writing. There's some certs that could help with with getting into that field.
No. 2316035
>>2315964I actually was originally switching majors to CS, but then it became an impacted major the year I was petitioning to switch so my 4 yr college would only accept incoming freshman into the program. I have far more credits than is normal for a person who has a minor in CS because I thought I was going to graduate with a CS major. It sucks to suck.
>>2316004Is technical writing still relevant given the rise of AI? I will look into getting a cloud certification in the meantime.
No. 2316255
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(Sorry to report this thread is better for my story)
I went to an office holiday party and got really drunk. It's nice that they really cared about me enough to not let me drive drunk. But I kept telling them that I don't drive and was getting an Uber. Several times. They were too drunk to understand me, I guess. I was getting to my Uber and they came out looking for me and I had to explain again. Then they watched over me as I crossed the street. Such sweethearts. I'll let them know when I get home and thank them for the time out.
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Any anons work 9-1-1 dispatch (USA)? I already applied and took the CritiCall test. I have the skills necessary to do the job but I'm getting nervous. Someone can die if I'm too retarded and I'm pretty retarded.
>>2316255This is honestly adorable kek, I'm imagining a bunch of drunk people huddled around like meerkats squinting at you as you cross the road.
No. 2319667
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>>2319655SA, posts like these make kms especially since I'm the same age as this guy
No. 2319737
>>2319655for every US software engineer that is a millionaire, there's ten that can't get a new job since being laid off, so even if you'd gotten a tech job you might have ended up among the unlucky ones.
Also, every high-earning software engineer I've ever talked with has turned out to be so overworked and miserable that they turn into depressed troons and develop stress-related physical issues. It doesn't seem worth it to burn out like that, I do hope to get better paying jobs in my field over time but I'm fine with never getting paid as much as they do if it means I can still have a personal life and my health.
No. 2320158
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>>2320126>>2319655> cs is overcompensatedCrab in a bucket mentality. Most don't even make that much. When they do, they require a degree and are salaried with assloads of (not properly compensated) overtime, where you have to be on call regularly if not 24/7. It's highly technical work that will probably cause everything to collapse if you screw up, and you usually have access to a bunch of sensitive info too. No shit they should be paid well.
The industry is currently being ripped apart by upper management using this "overcompensated" excuse (plus ai and sometimes offshoring), so odds are super high you'll also be running on fumes with a skeleton staff, if you even have anyone else to work with, and management will constantly badger you with 0 iq meetings where you have to explain basic concepts over and over while old fat men in suits desperately try to come up with reasons to fire you and/or pay you less, or stop paying for all basic infrastructure and security while you desperately beg them to do basic shit like encrypt people's passwords so everyone's info doesn't get leaked.
Over half of the people I went to school with (a bit under a decade after graduation) have burned out and changed careers already. New grads can't get jobs because companies are greedy and lazy and hate training. You have to constantly keep up with fads and spend time/money on training if you want to maintain salary. Interviewing is also painful, they expect you to spend literal hours of uncompensated time doing stupid puzzles and other bs.
Of my friends who stayed in, many don't even make 100k (or scrape in barely above that) despite living in mid-to-high col areas, having garbage work life balance, and 0 benefits. I went to one of the best schools in the US with a 10% graduation rate and a cost of over 250k to get a degree btw.
We aren't paid too much, we're also fucked, it's just that other departments are fucked harder. In every position I've been in, there's been at least 3 managers who are complete wastes of flesh and make the same or more than actually useful engineers, while solely manufacturing extra work for everyone and spreading misery.
Don't feel bad about not getting into CS because it sucks and the industry is being actively destroyed right now. The braindead libertarian moids who make up huge swathes of the sector will never unionize or push for basic rights and respect. On top of everything else, it is also notoriously sexist and attracts troons like flies to shit.
Sorry for the unhinged rant but I'm just so, so tired, I keep bumbling along with severe burnout and I'm sick of people talking out of their ass and devaluing my profession. I have been asked when I think AI can replace me because I'm paid too much multiple times this year, by several different groups of people, all of which were unbearably smug about it. 270 million Americans had their PII leaked this year in a single incident and yet everyone continues to not give a fuck about basic DevSecOps practices and staffing levels. Jesus christ.
No. 2322696
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looking for my first job and this vacancy i found is oddly suspicious
>photographer's assistant
>photo studio specializes in outdoor photoshoots, specifically in the nature
>very basic nature-related name, nothing comes up when i google it
>no address, no work hours listed
>no social media/website links, nothing
>no degree or prior experience required
>pays twice as much as minimum wage (so quite a lot)
am i going to get raped in the woods
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