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No. 2228222
>>2228215I wish I had smaller nipples on mine, other than that I’m fine with them now, they’re not huge, but not mosquito bites either. It’s not much, but at least it’s honest work. I have a fat ass though.
I used to want them bigger, but I’ve realized that they wouldn’t really suit my body type kek. But I love a woman with a nice décolleté , probably because I don’t have them myself.
But they look fantastic when I’m ovulating kek, they get so perfectly round. I wish I had someone damn.
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I love the Jesus x Pepe pics
No. 2228267
>>2228238It is honestly but not even because I miss gluten containing foods it’s because I miss being able to go out to eat and not be a pain in the ass and not have it be a stressful situation. I beat disordered eating and now end up with this fucking BLOWS
>>2228254100% but I wish the world had to be gluten free so I didn’t have to worry about cross contamination and could just go eat whatever random thing at random cafes and food stalls.
>>2228232I actually had a really good gluten free pizza with a gluten free beer that tasted like a nice light beer the other day it was dope af. I love random dedicated gluten free food spots. If everyone went gluten free I don’t think anyone would miss anything much except pastries and Cuban bread
No. 2228271
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>>2228261He's ugly and fat, anon, he sucks.
No. 2228274
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>>2228271He has a wife and kids and a dog, what do you have you LOSER? This how you spend your time online, mocking good Christian people?? You're SICK.
No. 2228316
>>2228306Ayrt, no way! Chickpeas aren’t nuts? Kek
nonnie I know, it’s my go to too.
No. 2228357
>>2228336Which one?
>>2228342A lot throughout the years
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>>2228374kek nonna NTA but a teddy is a type of lingerie, its another word for like leotard. i know what shes talking about it looked kind of like this
No. 2228405
>>2228386>>2228387If most men would be sex gods I would understand hoeing around, but the orgasm gap speaks loud and clear kek. It’s simply not worth it, little to no gratification, danger to yourself, STDs , pregnancies.
The chances of you meeting a scrote who rubs your outer lip thinking that it’s your clit, who doesn’t even bother to even lick your pussy and just hammers into you like a horn dog with a dead fish eye look is much higher than you having a genuine good time where you feel comfortable and actually feel pleasure.
It’s easier to have good sex with the same partner because, generally speaking
>they care>you’re going to have sex again so they want you to have a good time tooA scrote who just want to cum and dip isn’t as attentive.
I’m alone and I’m not interested in dating, I sometimes want to have sex and I’m good looking enough to find someone in real life or through dating app, but I refrain from doing that because it simply isn’t worth it and focus on fueling my energy on my studies or masturbate. No man can ever make me come like I do, I literally take a nap after from how good it is kek.
No. 2228416
>>2228413But I’m not mad. Apparently I’m “winning” in love and relationships. As if one person’s win means
your loss…?
No. 2228474
>>2228428Do it and come back and tell us the so called gifts you have received. I don’t know if you mean prostituting yourself or just having casual relationships btw, be a bit more clear please.
The gifts and attention you’re talking about are barely there when you’re hoeing or whatever you call it, you get booty calls, a “come over” , some chipotle if you’re lucky too, but there’s hardly any glamour, especially when you’re in your 20s. Men your age will treat you like a used rug and they’ll expect girlfriend treatment from you without giving you back shit.
And they’re fickle, the scrote gets bored rather quickly, it’s the novelty that sets him off. It just sounds stressful kek.
But if you’re talking about prostitution then that’s a whole other thing nonna. The gifts and attention you’re talking about sound like a sugar daddy sugar baby transaction.
No. 2228492
>>2228466The way I never even thought about wrinkly nipples kek. Some of you focus on such retarded things.
>saggy>wrinkly Boobs are literally blobs of fat and glandular tissue, they’re going to sag , especially if they’re larger. The fact is that when you’re met with smaller breasts which are perky because they’re smaller duh, you still end up complaining. You don’t deserve boobs, so fucking annoying.
No. 2228494
>>2228473Wrinkly nips are caused by the temperature.
also if you try to make them look smaller by holding them for a couple seconds. It’s a trick I heard from some girls when I was in middle school. So sad that they already feel worried about that at that age. My unpopular opinion is middle school girls shouldn’t be having boyfriends at that age. Literally one of the riskiest ages for some boy to ruin your reputation.
No. 2228503
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>>2228496In straight pickme world, men can look like this and women need to look like porn stars crossed with Barbies lol
No. 2228506
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>>2228499We don’t fucking care.
>my nigel>he’s so handsome you’ll fall in love!>my nigelAnd he probably looks like this
No. 2228513
>>2228506Even that's too flattering
nonny, make his hairline worse, add 20lbs and remove his chin
No. 2228515
>>2228499You know we wouldn't
>>2228503>seemingly washed>dressed upI dunno if the standards are this high. Also his shoulders are so uneven.
No. 2228529
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>>2228524It’s a Norwood 5, isn’t it.
No. 2228532
>>2228530She had my curiosity, but
now she has my attention. Post your black licorice thotty, nonna.
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>>2228514Jokes aside I’ll entertain you. You said he’s handsome (to you) and I’m assuming you’re at most 25, so college age and you’re on lolcow. So I have three important information I can combine. I also feel like you’re white so you’ll most likely have a white bf.
Nonnas like you love to praise your Nigel to death when most likely they’re just plain, so he’s probably a flavor of this.
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>>2228528Me thinks that he looks like this more or less, uglier face though.
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>>2228543I think I'm going to faint
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Fuck it, I’ll post mine too nonnas(rule 8)
No. 2228584
>>2228580why are tinfoiling so hard kekkk. are
>>2228480AI too?
No. 2228587
>>2228567yes this is why, i don't want personal photo exif data on here lol
thanks nonnies
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Damn this turned into some sexting session between lesbian and bi anons??
>>2228642Girl for real, that was clearly a real vagina, any one thinking it's an axe wound is insane. They can literally google pussies online or something.
>>2228650KEK, i'm getting ready for all the red text to come along within the next hour.
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gay thread
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>>2228692>Notice how nobody's infighting anymore?Unacceptable
No. 2228732
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for the nonas
No. 2228739
>>2228732Is that gimp girl? I haven't thought about her in so long, what a blast from the past. I wonder what she's up to.
>>2228733That fact that it's one anon consistently telling everyone to post nudes….hmmmmm
No. 2228744
>>2228741Next time someone disagrees with me in a really stupid way I'm going to assume it's one of the room temp IQ retards posting nudes or the
nonnie who rubs her clit on the toilet to masturbate. Honestly I'd rather toilet nona respond to my posts
No. 2228746
>>2228744The
nonnie who does what?
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>>2228729They're definitely active currently anyway, this was posted in the Roblox thread and then promptly deleted once they saw the replies kek
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Hmmm what a coincidence
No. 2228789
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>>2228752most of the time the info i see is the top of picrel. the censored part is a bunch of letters and numbers, i guess specifying the type of android or which version it is. i'm not very tech savvy so idk how much anyone could do with that (and i personally wouldn't do anything cause i'm not that invested in random posts kek). one time i saw a name in one section but i forgot what exactly it was, just a common first name
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>>2228802nonny tits > gay male assholes
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Return to tradition. Post hands instead(rule 8)
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>>2228817>picrel is what should happen to revive beloved dumbass shit thread this is the thread for pickmes while dumbass shit thread would’ve made fun of these pickmes and bullied them off the website, you guys might not like it but dumbass shit thread was a necessary evil. i noticed how much tradthots and handmaidens are popping up and it’s because of this thread, did we have this problem during the bunkers and dumbass shit???? fuck no, nobody was posting their tits or ass, peope were literally just spamming the korean puppy guy meme and deep faking him in vladimir putin’s face and bullying the shit out of fake feminist retards and scrotes who didn’t integrate
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>>2228867how dare you even ask me that
No. 2228898
>>2228894*got dragged
damn I'm half awake I'm not gonna delete and repost again
No. 2228917
>>2228682>>2228587The lactating hospital
nonny still mogs all. Literal sex doll proportions
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>the joke is sexualizing other women!! Post boobs hehe post tits fellow farmers, so fun and hot! We're so gay and lesbian pls post your tits tehee
It reeks of balls in here, ew
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>>2229024Shit like this makes me wanna alog
>guys here's an in depth description of my PUSSY for no reason and guess what when I was a MINOR in p.e a girl said I had a CUTE SQUISHY PUSSY this actually happens please tell me you'd have sex with me or also describe your own pussy in response No. 2229036
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>>2229033What the fuck did I just read
No. 2229098
>>2229069Kek , if you have unfortunate features you’re ugly. I don’t see why you’re so keen on insisting that all women are beautiful, they aren’t, just like not every person on earth is beautiful. You just sound retarded.
Can’t you let women be ugly in peace? I hate this fake bootlicking, because at the end of the day I know how you act when you see an ugly woman. Beauty isn’t all there is to a woman.
> still deserve 10/10 men (if they're into that) No one “deserves” people nonna.
No. 2229102
>>2229098Attractive people like attractive people, that’s how it works. You get treated better when you’re attractive, when you’re either of the sex anyway, by both women and men too, so don’t moralfag me.
There are cases where ugly people get with beautiful people, both men and women, but let us not act as if it’s the norm.
Most of the times it isn’t even that unbalanced, people like people who match their looks kek.
No. 2229117
>>2229104I’m a 5/10, I have a hooked nose, acne and I’m chubby. I’m sick of hearing shit like what you say, because it isn’t true. I know that I’m not exactly striking and that people do not find me attractive generally. But I have other qualities too and even then I can also be liked for my appearance too.
I don’t need to be beautiful to be a worthy person in the first place or have a great relationship. Ugly women can be ugly and still have that, there’s no need for you to say “you’re still beautiful!!”.
When I stopped chasing beauty I started to feel better and actually became okay with how I look. Women should stop saying “even if you’re like this and that you’re beautiful” and start being “so what if you have this and that feature?”. You’re not able to separate women and beauty nonna.
No. 2229136
>>2229130> Women with "unfortunate" features can still be beautiful.I’m not going to sit here and write you an essay since you clearly don’t understand anything that’s being said to you that isn’t superficial.
Let ugly women be ugly, they don’t need to be “still beautiful” to deserve anything or for you to justify whatever they’re doing with that. You are just the same as those who say that beauty is the only thing a woman has , but you’re just wrapping it up in a red ribbon.
No. 2229145
>>2229136As much as you’re talking about 10/10 men you still let ugly scrotes be ugly in peace, while you can never afford that very same grace to women, you just have to jump on with the fake positivity and try to justify that “in reality she’s beautiful!”, so much so that it just ends up looking like pity.
Yes even if you want to do it in good faith, I’m aware it isn’t in bad faith and I’m not chastising you that much, I’m just saying that it isn’t helpful in the long run, when people did that to me I always ended up feeling much worse.
No. 2229151
>>2229142I don’t need to play “who’s this” kek.
> My point is most men are objectively ugly/more unattractive then most females. I’m clearly talking about ugly women only. I don’t understand what’s your point in saying that most men are ugly. Okay, but do ugly men erase ugly women? No they don’t.
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>>2229173There are people who are liked on a higher scale, since they fit their country’s beauty standards , therefore that is objective beauty, which is different than unconventional attractiveness. That’s what nonna said.
If I’m in the Netherlands this woman is considered attractive.
No. 2229209
>>2229204I’m not defending anything or raging against anything, I was purely further expanding what the previous nonna said. My own stance is that beauty can be simultaneously objective and subjective at the same time. If you’re talking about each individual person I’m much more inclined to say that it’s subjective, since personal tastes are different.
You can compliment people who you like, I’ve not removed anything or invalidated anything kek.
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>>2229207Grandma did you forget your Monday pill?! I told you that you have to take 3 pills on Monday, the doctor changed your prescription last month. Come , let’s go..
(shitposting ) No. 2229229
>>2229211Its not about breeders. If you have sex with a man you
risk getting pregnant whether you want to or not. What i am saying is that women lose more and are even worse off being in a relationship with a moid so they deserve the best moid possible. Women are the ones doing a favour for moids. I dont want to get pregnant so i dont think i will ever have sex but im done moralfagging over every little thing women do or want and thats part of the reason women never get anywhere. Men can kill and date underaged girls and moids dgaf and make every excuse possible to free him from scrutiny. I appreciate how women are so prone to justice but the game is not fair and moralfagging doesn't get you anywhere. Unless a woman is a pedo (moids 15> dont count) or is a pickme i dont care.
No. 2229238
>>2229098Ayrt, it's not bootlicking when I'm personally in that situation. Beautiful can be about more than looks or traditional conventional attractiveness. Plus if the man thinks she's beautiful, it's not your place to tell him e.g. that he's wrong and should be with someone else.
>>2229136I'm not letting ugly women be ugly by saying that if someone thinks their (in your opinion) uggo partner is beautiful, it's not your place to try to correct them?
>>2229154>Women will always treat women who don't fit like shit while subhuman orgs running the world aroundExactly, this. Not necessarily always, but it's way too common.
>>2229207Yes thank you, that is indeed what I meant. Considering all the risks of being with a moid, I'd at least want it to be worth my while. Instead of analyzing what features makes a woman "too ugly" for a man, I'd like it to be more common for women to just congratulate each other/be happy for each other. It ain't fair that ugly men can be with a top model and nobody bats an eye, but a relatively ugly woman does that and people act like it's a crime against nature kek.
No. 2229263
>>2229244Well that is a very extreme example, but I can guarantee there are men out there who do.
>>2229247Well take someone like Shelley Duvall. On the one hand she was treated like a muse, even casted as a femme fatale. While on the other hand publications couldn't stop talking about how ugly they thought she was. Is she conventionally attractive? No and her features are definitely not proportionate. But is it really so difficult to imagine that for some people her face exactly hits the spot? Imo at least also no, some people like odd unique looking faces.
>>2229261Hot men don't have to settle though, so how is it not genuine attraction then?
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This is what was once considered beautiful. Conventional beauty arguments are a waste of time, the "convention" aspect is always some faggots memeing their own taste because they're wealthy/powerful. Some people will find you hot, some won't. More people might find you hot if you fit what's currently popular. None of it really matters.
No. 2229284
>>2229265>No one will desire unattractive people the way they desire attractive people. They can force themselves to like it for whatever woo woo shit they will into but it won't work. Natures laws don't careThis is the popular opinion nonna, we’re on the unpopular thread, it’s obvious that uggos are coping hard.
Men are sleazy beings, but sure the 10/10 men will surely go to the uglies and the fatties and treat them well on top of that. Men don’t even treat women who are beautiful well kek, it’s even more rare with ugly women. They see it as a fetish, as an easy lay, they don’t need to put effort if they just have to sit and wait for a woman to come up to them because “yas! You’re beautiful!”. The ones you’re talking about are one in a million case, most of the time it’s a sleazy player who uses the woman.
Men are ultimately with women for convenience, a man’s attention isn’t anything worthwhile yet you are all here talking about “deserving” 10/10 men. A man is a punishment kek and it doesn’t even matter since they rot away in a matter of 10 years.
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>>2229271You don't find it beautiful, but all the peasants back then were idealizing that appearance too because the wealthy inbreds pushed it down their throats. Some of the women considered beautiful today would socially be considered 4/10s if they were in the wrong society and time period. This was also considered beauty in Japan historically. Traditional Tonga beauty standards prize women being fat, but studies have reflected their ideals slowly changing due to western influence, which is normal for humans. In literally every culture and community, there's some historical beauty standard that'd make you raise your eyebrows.
Beauty politics are about power (and it's usually moids pushing their fetishes, which can get ridiculous, as we've all seen), the idea of "objective" beauty is a cope when we live in a highly manipulated society and humans are impressionable. Besides, what about that woman's appearance is actually biologically non-viable to you?
No. 2229290
>>2229285Because she's a model? An ugly one regardless
>>2229287Ew kek
No. 2229292
>>2229279You're right on the money
I remember an anon in the plastic surgery thread posting a pic of her nose and crying about the huge hideous bump she wants fixed, calling herself all sorts of names I wouldn't even use on my worst enemy
There was no bump on the nose
I felt so sad for her
Usually when you hear someone talking about themselves in such an insulting way it's body dysmorphia
No. 2229293
>>2229264Hey I said I think people can think she's beautiful! Just that she doesn't have a conventionally attractive face and she was slammed for it constantly.
>>2229265>Well okay your argument is men will fuck anything.That's not my argument. Some people can have very particular niche tastes.
>And we can see which women other women see as attractive, which is same women men also find attractive.Not necessarily the case. Just as men find men attractive which women don't, it goes vice versa. Plus why should women's tastes in women matter in this regard, when it's not a samesex relationship?
>Just because they settle in or in relationship doesn't mean it's healthy or work out either. No one will desire unattractive people the way they desire attractive people. They can force themselves to like it for whatever woo woo shit they will into but it won't work. Natures laws don't careWhy would a 10/10 guy have to settle or force themselves to like it? They can practically have anyone they want. So who are you to say and assume that they must be forcing themselves to like it or that they can't be attracted to their partner?
>>2229267>Conventional beauty arguments are a waste of time, the "convention" aspect is always some faggots memeing their own taste because they're wealthy/powerful.Exactly.
>>2229269>Shelley duvall had proportionate harmonious features thoA lot of people disagree with that and think her mouth and eyes are too big, her face is too small etc. Yet, some people are exactly into that type of configuration and go googoo gaga for it.
>>2229270Yes? That is why my opinion is in the unpopular opinion thread, because I know that irl there is little solidarity in that regard. Do you think I'm some Stacy trying to bat for uggos or something? kek
>>2229279I'm not deformed, just not conventionally attractive and living in a culture that is obsessed with conformity and sameness. It doesn't help that I'm partially of a different ethnicity and those genetics are coming through way too fucking strong. So the people around me think I'm ugly, meanwhile my bf who happens to have a thing for that ethnicity loves my face and it baffles people.
No. 2229300
>>2229238> I'd like it to be more common for women to just congratulate each other/be happy for each other.Wishful thinking kek, as soon as a woman is seen with a scrote that doesn’t look like a wrinkled grape with mold they hate on her. Competition and jealousy are ingrained due to female socialization, that’s why feminism won’t ever be mainstream.
>It ain't fair that ugly men can be with a top model and nobody bats an eye, but a relatively ugly woman does that and people act like it's a crime against nature kek.It’s not nature, it’s society and a mix of lookism, a woman’s most prized price is beauty, that’s her “money”. That’s why no one bats an eye when an ugly man is with a woman, because they automatically think that a man is surely giving her something back, money, stability etc. When it’s the other way around they don’t see it, because a woman can’t possibly give anything to a man that he can’t have, so it doesn’t make sense.
I’m merely explaining, these are not my opinions.
No. 2229308
>>2229288Because they change, beauty standards change. I don’t see why saying that receding hairlines and fatness were beautiful on women during the last century is in anyway substantial when they do not apply now.
I agree on the fact that they’re simply a tool of power in order to keep women weak and by the looks of it, they’re surely working damn well.
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>>2229289kek why did she choose that pic though?
>>2229290no she’s got strong features, brilliant eyes, very beautiful well taken care of hair, clean
skin, still way more beautiful than the ugly bastards you open your legs up to every night but ok. the average unconventional male attraction thread poster with intense lesbiphobia
>>2229287based
>>2229292yeah unfortunately that’s the way it is, i used to be that way and sometimes i fall back into it like with my weight (i’m not fat but not stick thin either) but i feel so free not caring about this, it’s seriously like picrel watching women care so much about some woman’s ugliness while scrotes fuck ugly women, trying to appeal to beauty standards is a hopeless attempt and does nothing for us anyways. we should just eat well, work out, gain muscle, take care of ourselves and not be fat, scrotes only care about beauty standards and then spread this bullshit to women so they can cause more infighting and division among other women and causing even more of our pain and misery, even scrotes don’t give this much a shit unless they’re lookism faggots secretly craving a dicking from a male
>>2229293like I said scrotes don’t really care, but since you have a boyfriend i’m not going to say why he likes your face because you might get offended kek
>>2229298>uploads photo to some website to get rated and thinks it’s legitbait
No. 2229311
>>2229087that thing is not a lesbian, what child says another one has a "cute squishy pussy". It's repulsive even typing this shit. The concept of "outies" and "innies" is a made up male porn thing that maybe only some straight women would care about due to retarded porn brain osmosis, and/or the terminally underaged tourist. All vulvas have a inner and outer labia but of slightly varying sizes and positions. All are "outies" but some are larger than others, delusion. Female genitals don't "bulge out" period or bulge forward, even if the labia majora is large, they droop and hang dorsally under the body. You cannot push the labia majora forward enough to have a "bulge" because its under the body, it doesn't matter if you had the biggest labia in the world and a "large pubic bone" its not possible. This is a indication that a male wrote this since the genitals of men ARE forward facing and not dorsal like a woman's. Finally there's no world in which a woman has a bulge from wearing underwear or pads. Pads don't have enough volume to give a "bulge", even extra heavy flow ones, nor would pubic hair add any volume even the thickest pubic hair flattens out regardless of hair texture. Also you don't "poke" a vagina, if you're talking about the skin and labia of a vulva, this male meant vulva. But I'm telling you nothing new, presumably everyone here knows this because they're weirded out by it and are actual women.
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>>2229299Why do you presume higher testosterone necessarily makes a woman uglier?
>No one finds model bodies attractive irl. This just isn't true lol, or else women wouldn't be obsessing over looking like them, and being told you "look like a model" wouldn't be a compliment. Men can and do also like thicker bodies, but why is it so hard for you to accept that beauty is memed kek? Not sure what you mean by "hollybolly".
>It's always femininity that considered attractive for women. "Femininity" takes different aesthetic forms in different time periods and cultures.
>Women with higher testesterone are infertile/less fertile so Idk what you mean by that.Proof the woman in that photo had high testosterone? You can have a big nose and a relatively high hairline (by the way, women were literally shaving their hairlines to make them higher because it was considered "beautiful") and still be very fertile.
Here are the harem members of a wealthy Persian king btw
No. 2229318
>>2229308That's my point, that it changes and women shouldn't be killing themselves over being seen as "ugly" as if it's a moral failing and some objective, eternal thing because all of this shit is just made-up.
Slap some facial hair on enough IG baddies, actresses and models, and "all of a sudden" hirsutism will be considered great and you're an ugly hairless bald-all-over bitch if you don't grow enough body hair. It's stupid.
No. 2229328
>>2229314You can't be serious with that picture choice. Even your average middle eastern women don't look that harsh. She's clearly inbred. Ugh so sick of retatded nitpickings like that
>This just isn't true lol, or else women wouldn't be obsessing over looking like them Go outside then
>"Femininity" takes different aesthetic forms in different time periods and culturesThere's no culture women like Imane Khelif will considered feminine duh
I'm not going to respond the last part, arabs known to have highest incest rates
No. 2229338
>>2229304That happens to me.
>>2229315You don't get hit on, you don't have to bother buying makeup or expensive clothing because trying to "fix" your appearance is impossible, if someone genuinely likes you it's because of your character. You get to exist in a state of limbo outside of the normie social olympics because you were never participating.
No. 2229348
>>2229328>You can't be serious with that picture choice. Even your average middle eastern women don't look that harsh. She's clearly inbred. Ugh so sick of retatded nitpickings like thatAgain, whether you like it or not, that's what men "picked". Stop letting men dictate your life and self-image.
>Go outside thenYou go outside and tell a random woman she looks like she could be a model. Report your findings.
>There's no culture women like Imane Khelif will considered feminine duh? Imane Khelif is a man. Even so, if some coalition of rich men picked out women who resembled him to be beauty icons, the general population would clap like seals, and you'd probably be in this thread saying a Brooke Shields lookalike is ugly because she doesn't resemble them lmao
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>>2229281People probably would've written books about her exotic beauty and fine, noble features in ancient times. Even today, she has the facial harmony and "look" to be a quirked up model that tons of Arab softboy types and tumblr girls probably waifufag, kek. You guys will learn to live life instead of pretending it's over for you because of your faces.
No. 2229373
>>2229356>>2229359I’m not talking about same age rape kek.
So if a teacher or a professor coerces a student who is 16 then it doesn’t matter right? Some of you are …weird.
No. 2229380
>>2229371Most people in the Middle East are obsessed with plastic surgery and looking white, I'm talking about indie crowds. The sorts of people who'd like Creepy-chan in the US. Models who look like that appeal to those sorts of people.
>She's marketed becaus she is a hideous ArmenianAre you Armenian?
No. 2229381
>>2229300>Wishful thinking kek, as soon as a woman is seen with a scrote that doesn’t look like a wrinkled grape with mold they hate on her. Competition and jealousy are ingrained due to female socialization, that’s why feminism won’t ever be mainstream.Yeah I know. I just don't like how it's affecting my self esteem and my relationship.
>When it’s the other way around they don’t see it, because a woman can’t possibly give anything to a man that he can’t have, so it doesn’t make sense. I’m merely explaining, these are not my opinions.Yeah that's very true. I feel like some things can't be changed, but such widely held beliefs theoretically can since it's not from nature. I know it's highly unlikely, if not impossible considering how the beauty and plastic surgery industry profits so much from it, but I digress.
>>2229310>but since you have a boyfriend i’m not going to say why he likes your face because you might get offended kek Well he said it's because it's exotic and interesting to look at. Plus my facial expressions really made him fall for me kek. Idk how you could offend me tho?
>>2229329I did that and somehow it worked.
>>2229341Then idk why you're so upset
>>2229350>I bet you’re some type of East Asian kek.Nah, partially Caucasian. In Eastern Europe people don't think I'm ugly and people even call me randomly pretty sometimes, but where I live they're brutal.
No. 2229409
>>2229376nta but objective markers for beauty in both men and women are
>clear skin>pliable skin>markers of youth>hour glass/slim waist>healthy muscle tone and fat>healthy luscious hairand basically anything that exaggerates secondary sexual characteristics to a healthy degree. People have preferences but objective standards are the basis for nearly everyone across continents and cultures throughout history. Recent psyops are subject to propaganda.
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>>2229393
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>>2229385see
>>2229380Those kinds of models have a certain type of community idealizing them, and their unique, striking looks are the reason they're chosen for certain brands. The more typical culturally conquered/racially dysphoric MENA using shitty editing apps on all their selfies to try and look like a mixture between a Kardashian and a VS model and haranguing their daughter into nose-breaking is not relevant in the context I'm speaking of.
No. 2229435
>>2229429no woman wants to be idolized for her weird "unique" face by internet weirdos, they want to be cute IRL
Also the kardashians are the one trying to look like mena women not the other way around
No. 2229466
>>2229409Slim/hourglass body shapes aren't exactly the objective/global cultural standard, but they are popular now, and both muscle and fat have been denigrated, but you're right on the skin being a near universal factor (except in the case of deliberate scarification).
What constitutes a "healthy" degree of exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics shifts between cultures and time periods a lot. That said, none of the women I posted have indicators of poor skin, hair quality or infertility, and when women nowadays call other women ugly, it's typically to do with things like nose or lip size.
No. 2229473
>>2229458No I’m calling out pedos when someone is saying that men who are 15< are
valid. Shut the fuck up.
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>>2229439>>2229451You guys make it so obvious you are retarded third world scrotes or women with body dysmorphia like Effina. Her name is Ester Karbivnicha, and even the men who've been cooming to her and following her for years know her photos are edited.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RetrousseTits/comments/r86bf1/ester_karbivnicha/ No. 2229540
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>>2229528
Oh so you people are crazy crazy.
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>>2229281If you want to post ugly women can you at least try? All you girls saying xyz is ugly have not seen a truly ugly woman. Yes they exist but stop pretending you all look like this.
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>>2229672Literally. I'm tired of retards pretending women are beastly for not looking like porn star stereotypes or kawiwi animu
No. 2229733
>>2229726You’re just assuming that kek. If someone doesn’t like your fav model doesn’t mean that they have shitty tastes.
That model has a particular look, I don’t find her attractive, you do, that’s it. OF models who play into pedo shit are ugly to me too and so are the ig baddies.
No. 2229735
>>2229713>there was a nonna here who said that teenagers who are 15+ can’t be raped…and I just don’t want to dwell on what kind of retardation you need to have in order to think that.let's talk about this without infighting. while i think that going after underage people is wrong and gross, im of the opinion that men can't be raped by women, men are much stronger and larger than women and can push them off, so where do we draw the line? Also i think that if you have to
convince someone that they are a
victim, they aren't a
victim, this goes for both young men and women, some of those lanafags are geniunely into old scrotes, i mean… you need to be attracted to a person in order to have sex with them i suppose? Do the girls/women thirst posting about men 20 years older than them are actually
sexually aroused by them?
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>>2229716She literally looks like a Modigliani portrait
we had a few of them framed in our hallway when I was growing up and I was scared of them as a little kid No. 2229777
>>2228386Most promiscuous women are very extroverted, which is probably one the best traits if you want a relationship. Even better if they aren't the traumatized type who uses hoeing as a coping mechanism because they weren't loved by their parents or whatever.
The truth is, men won't care about your past if you are enough pretty, enough hot and don't withhold sex.
No. 2229798
>>2229773you're not one of the first ipad babies at 19, I'm mid twenties and was on the internet at the same age
I agree tho
No. 2229819
>>2229735Sure, I’m capable of discussing without going schizo kek.
> let's talk about this without infighting. while i think that going after underage people is wrong and gross, im of the opinion that men can't be raped by women, men are much stronger and larger than women and can push them off, so where do we draw the line? I definitely think that it’s much , much more harder for a woman to rape a man, the chances of him being raped by a man are much higher. But I also don’t completely align with your idea, sexual coercion exists, especially when it’s a woman and a teenager and I can’t ignore that kind of imbalance.
According to you anyone that can fight off a their rapist isn’t a
victim, what about women who don’t fight back because they froze? Because when you’re being raped you can actually freeze , fighting back isn’t guaranteed.
What about girls who are raped by boys pre-puberty (because yes it happens unfortunately l)? What about same sex rape? In all these instances you can fight back.
Rape doesn’t necessarily have to be violent for it to be rape, it can be blackmail , coercion, threatening.
I was raped by my own ex in fact, it’s not like he beat me and when it happened I was frozen like a rock, I couldn’t move and couldn’t do shit..
> Also i think that if you have to convince someone that they are a victim, they aren't a victim,And again I do not agree with that either. There is denial too, you can realize that you were raped even weeks after. And regarding teen boys there’s the fact that scrotes are literally disgusting to the point that they cheer about it, I don’t blame a boy who gets raped and doesn’t even recognize it.
Overall I just don’t agree with the notion that some people are
victims and some aren’t. You might accuse me of scrotefoiling or whatever but regarding rape, especially when it happens to minors, I just can’t align with you.
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I honestly believe a lot of stuff the about 4b movement coming out of Korea are made up at this point, it's one thing to remain celibate(that's not outlandish), but seeing claims about how they don't buy or use products from male companies or even interact with men just feel made up, cause unless you live in a women's commune you will have to deal with men if you work or want to interact with your family and I swear this is not racebait (I'm asian myself) but asian people in general can be quite superficial and have an obsession with aesthetics and this feels like just an extension of that, an aesthetic of radicalism, but nothing genuine
No. 2229975
>>2229954What do you mean?
>>2229922From what i've heard misogyny is very rampant in south korea to the point that being branded as a femenist can make you ocstrized, harrased and even lose your job. If female celebrities in south korea get caught (as in a literal screenshot) reading a femenist book they get harrased by men. Im not discrediting you since you said you're asian so i don't doubt you have a better grasp over what's it like there, but i imagined since it's seems so controversial to be open about being a feminist most women would just keep their beliefs quiet and let their actions do the work, since as we've seen in the west saying you're a feminist doesn't mean you actually are one. What is the overall conscious on the patriarchy, men's behaviour, relationships between men and women? Do they outright recognize and admit to how men act towards women or do they (sorry if it sounds like im baiting, i don't have a better description) cape, defend men and think they're
victims on the same level that women are like feminists do in the west?
No. 2229979
>>2229963samefag as
>>2229975 it's interesting you say it's like an image/aesthetic because i feel like that's exactly what most women do in the western countries like trying to paint hyperfemininity, sex work, plastic surgery, promisciouscity, porny aesthetics as feminism because it's their "choice" and we have gone so far back that being a tomboy and not interested in being hypersexual and hyperfeminine gets you branded as an nlog and women feel like they have to opt out of being a woman and identify as they/them or a TIF
No. 2230000
>>2229922It seems that many of them keep it discrete with the ones not in the ‘know.’
>it's one thing to remain celibate(that's not outlandish), but seeing claims about how they don't buy or use products from male companies or even interact with men just feel made upIt’s really not that hard to do unless you’re the only woman in a workplace.
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>farmers posted boobs 20 hours ago and i wasn't there to see them
fuck my stupid euro life..
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>>2230017Amerigods: 1
Europoor: 0
I weep for you, though. Kek
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I have nothing against Jaiden animations and I'm sure she's a pretty cool person irl. It's just I can't stomach any of her content because something about her is just so damn annoying. I think it reached this point after she came out as asexual even though I swear she's dating her friend Jacob since she takes him everywhere, just the two of them on trips. I do kinda get it, she just wanted people to make less porn of her. But yuh, just find her annoying and I can't put my finger on it.
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she's right
No. 2230639
>>2230602Can confirm!
My family is mostly shorties on both sides and I still wound up a giraffe!
No. 2230648
>>2230646It wasn't the coffee. The majority of your height growth will happen before menarche, once you start menstruating, which for most girls now is around the age of 12, your growth plates will start to ossify and will generally finish ossifying within 2 years. You will still grow between then, but not by much. An additional 1-2 inches of growth is about all your can expect.
example: if you were 5'0 at 12 you might be 5'1" at 14, and then you're done.
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Let's face it people need to stop believing humanity a.k.a governments will somehow manage to slow down climate change enough that we won't cross the extinction event horizon and start thinking about practical survival strategies like getting behind the right borders if push comes to shove. I'm doing my part, am on my third passport now.
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Kids are a luxury not a requirement. If you can’t afford a kid or even if you can but you aren’t mentally equipped to handle one STOP REPRODUCING. All you selfish parents do is bring depressed children with disabilities into the world that can’t even afford to work through their mental health struggles in adulthood. Even rich people need to stop reproducing so much. It is already a fact that if you have more than 3 kids you can’t as parents fulfill all their needs.it’s literally impossible. I don’t care how much you think you are supermom. Some kids WILL be neglected and others parentified. But these idiots think being barefoot and pregnant every 2-5 business days is okay as long as hubby brings home the bacon. Then are shocked when one of their kids grows up to be a family annihilator despite “having it all”
No. 2230775
>>2230770Not related but in my old house I had a recurring clogged nose and runny nose, even in summer, I was even snoring during the night. Turns out I had mold in my room kek.
When I moved out I returned to breathe properly.
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>>2230546We’ve got a real intellectual over here.
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>>2230930They often come with the inability to get a clue and stop talking too much. They also tend to have an annoying voice that's higher pitched than usual. It's funny how it's never just their attitude that can feel obnoxious, it's talking to them at all that can be annoying.
No. 2231037
>>2231026relationships with moids only detract from women's lives and even add problems so being single is preferable and better for women actually. i think the only way for women to get "treated well" is if they don't care and don't love the moids too much. i find it kind of funny how men insuniate that women are the sex objects when they are the ones that chimp out whether its killing themselves or others over not getting laid kek, its pure projections,
they are the sex objects, they are the ones that want to be used, that's why they think women have it better just because a bunch of people see them as a piece of meat.
No. 2231068
>>2231055Don't act obtuse, you know why. Because there are benefits and perks to appeasing society.
Its great that you are priveleged enough to not worry about that but not everyone has your privelege. Even in the most progressive places there are benifits to that. There are perks to fitting the archetype of a woman and if you don't fit that archetype either by being ugly, actually autistic, quiet, not being a chatterbox, spinster, having actual depression, having unconventional interests or dressing unconventional then you get punished.
All the successful and happy women in my life that i knew finished college early and got married early in their 20's and i can't help but feel bitter and jealous how happy and successful they are and how everyone in their life treats them so good even when they make mistakes but im not given the same privelege.
I still remember a fucking college professor letting another girl(who graduated and is now married) give her a higher grade than she deserves just because that girl is bubbly then she started taunting me like haha i gave that girl a higher grade than deserved but i wont do that for you.
College has been shit and ive been picked on by multiple professors that it worsened my mental health and caused me to fail one year (which im being blamed for by everyone around me for failing), school life was also shit too. Man ima get the rope, life is a mistake.
No. 2231093
>>2231077Not this racebait "ha you are probably from some thirdie shithole" laced question. Im not from african countries/india/middle east etc.
>>2231081I will neither deny or confirm that kek.
No. 2231180
>>2231145>>2231146>>2231156>>2231150Are you that obnoxious faggot who posted pictures of a shooped porn star and insisted they were real? Porn addict opinions don't matter, you are not desirable.
Women will never fight over you, so instead you come online and try to speak for men so that random women will argue that a hypothetical man is attracted to them and you can substitute him for yourself, gatekeep his attraction, etc and feel like someone does want you. It's transparent and tiresome to see.
Can't wait for your next bit, ie that women are pedophiles if they want men with full heads of hair.
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>I have both saggy breasts and hip dips, and I can see that they're objectively ugly traits
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>>2231150Average height and tall women are more attractive because they have better proportions; long legs and a narrower frame in proportion to their height. Short women have short legs, wide blocky torsos and hips and their legs are farther apart which makes them look like SpongeBob
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Hip dips are normal and attractive, 95% of women have them unless they’re overweight
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>the majority of women are ugly with hip dips only women with giant round bbl hips make my pp hard ew saggy tits and tall women are gross hur hur dur
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>>2231293Even moids on 4chan, gooner central, say the same thing.
No. 2231339
>>2231327Your idea of "objective beauty" was the woman described in
>>2229474 kekkk
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Marilyn Monroe had hip dips and men were obsessed with her specifically because of her body kek
No. 2231359
>>2231331I literally have real life experience of being treated better by both men and women when i look more put together aka hotter. Even shopkeppers treat me better and don't stalk me around when im shopping which they typically do when i look rough.
I have so many experiences of people treating me badly if i look bad and treating me good if i look good. From since i was a child i had a grown man call me vile names because he found me ugly. Women are valued by their appearance by both men and women and the thought of that makes me want to die, if onky i was a man so i were judged as a human and not a archetype.
>>2231348Your point is about objective beauty but i already told you that there's nothing wrong with hip dips and men don't care about them. Things that men care about is ass, face, boobs, tight skin, long thick hair, looking underage etc. Hip dips are not a part of the beauty requirement for women. As long as you look like pedobait moids don't care about hip dips.
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>>2230691Leading by example
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>>2231377There’s a reason models are all tall. Also most actresses are average height because they have ideal proportions… there are some short men in the industry because if they have “attractive” faces and can act them they can easily use tricks to create the illusion of them being taller. We talk about how ugly short men are all the time in the ugly man psyop thread though, they have hideous proportions
No. 2231428
>>2231400im the op. yeah i know that it's not mainly for men/beauty standards, should've put that in my post. But in case of
>>2231411 it still is misogyny fueled, and feel like you have to alter your body so you don't suffer from misogyny. There is a reason why its mostly women get it.
No. 2231446
>>2231026It's bleak out there for us autistic nonnies kek
If it makes you feel better, even at the time I was obsessed with perfoming femininity, people could tell something was wrong with me, and looking pretty didn't make my life better, if anything being obssesed with looking feminine all the time only fucked up my self image a lot and I developed an ED.
Now that I'm fat and ugly, men and women alike treat me like an afterthought. It's good in a way because moids leave you alone, but you always know at the back of your mind you'll never fit in with general society. It's a lose-lose situation. If you're pretty men will see you as a quirky fuck-doll, if you are ugly they see you as the creepy retarded girl.
No. 2231472
>>2231446Is this me? I went through the same thing even when i put in alot of effort (spending so much money on cosmetics that i wouldn't have money for other things, trying every single hair remedy which only damaged my scalp, having a ED and a exercise addiction) i still felt othered by others, it was never enough for them no matter how much effort i put it. Even when my body was nice and hair was thicker then everyone just nitpicked how ugly my face and nose is lol, plus the tism personality and social phobia didn't help.
Now im slightly overweight and not a teenager anymore and am practically ignored by all men and women alike. It does feel horrible.
No. 2231494
>>2231245NTA but for me
Good posture, broad shoudlers, broad back, nice pecs and toned arms, tight stomach (not necessarily abs), smaller waist, toned legs, average butt (the square butt is nice to me kek). I don’t look too much muscle anyway and I’m not expecting them to mantain abs 365/365, I care more about being toned.
No. 2231502
>>2231400I became ana as a way to punish myself and have control at the same time honestly. I started restricting because I was doing bad at school in my first year of high school after always being a straight A student in middle school kek (I got better after that year and went right back in track), my parents also divorced during that time, so having control in that aspect felt nice and comforting in a way.
As time progressed I sort of got addicted to it and it spiraled from there. I’m doing better now though!
No. 2231544
>>2231516Beauty is everything. At least people care when pretty women get murdered
>>2231514Are you done with your gaslighting psyop?
No. 2231546
>>2231514Oh fuck off with this shit. When you talk about successful ugly women what you actually mean is average looking women who are a little bit frumpy or old. Every single time i looked at a successful "ugly woman" it was a just a plain jane average woman.
This weird silencing that both men and women do to women who talk about how beauty is currency and that women are valued on their beauty just makes what they are saying even more legitimate, what are you so afraid of admitting that women are valued of beauy?too afraid to face yourself for all the subconscious judgement you do to women's bodies or how you measure the treatment you give them based on their appearance.
Appearance and sexual appeal is the biggest thing women are discriminated on yet is the only thing that everyone denies happening.
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>>2231546I would consider myself an ugly successful woman. I am more or less well liked by my colleagues and am successful in my field. I've also been singled out in groups and treated worse than the other girls for being uglier and more awkward than them. People have bullied me for being ugly in high school, and still call me ugly sometimes. I look a bit similar to Florence Welch, picrel. I don't personally look at her and think "wow, she's ugly", but she's probably what you might consider a successful ugly woman. Nothing wrong with venting about the disadvantage of being ugly, but it doesn't mean your life is over, or that you can't find happiness.
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>>2231628NGL I used to think Florence Welch was ugly as well . It's fucked up because many anons love to claim she's a troon and it's clearly because she's unattractive
No. 2231639
>>2231637one thing i hate is that i used to find what might be called a "mannish woman" like this ultra attractive, and i still do, but now at the back of my mind i'm thinking about all the ugly trannies and their ugly selfies they spam everywhere and i have to admit it crosses my mind.
however, even in these pics you can see her shoulders are tiny and not square.
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>>2231594At her career peak she was literally average, this further confirms to me that alot of anons don't know the difference between a average woman and a ugly one.
>>2231626This sounds like something a moid would say. So many pretty women are homewreckers and pickmes too. It has nothing to do with appearance other than your hate for ugly women and possibly being a self-hating uggo.
>>2231565A judge in Italy said something similiar to a rape
victim that she was too ugly to be raped and let her rapist go. Be careful with the things you say because it just helps men get away with terrible things but i don't think you care about that since bad things happening to ugly women is okay for some reason.
>>2231637I mean she seems gaunt now and id older but when she was famous she used to be normal/average looking, if she looked that way too back then they wouldn't have let her debut.
No. 2231654
>>2231640Imo there are other characteristics that are more important than a beautiful face for hollywood/fame. Long, slender necks, proportional limbs, nice legs and hands, and a relatively flat stomach (I say this because even with fat celebs you don't see anyone with "apron" stomachs, they're always close to the body). From what I gather, even if you're beautiful in the face, having the wrong body type will trump that and you won't get anywhere.
For men, there is an overlap but as we all know the bar for them is waaaayyyyy lower.
No. 2231670
>>2231544>At least people care when pretty women get murderedThis isn't guaranteed
>>2231546Eh, I know quite a few women who are described as uGLy who are doing well for themselves in life. They've cultivated a community with other women, they are doing well in their careers, etc.
>This weird silencing that both men and women do to women who talk about how beauty is currencyI'm not saying that beauty is not a currency, but it's like money or anything else - it isn't everything and does not guarantee you a better life. It won't bring you happiness or guarantee that people won't treat you like shit. Most people are average or ugly, you're just having a main character syndrome about it being an especially difficult case for you. It's weird seeing pinkpillers cry about how they need plastic surgery to appeal to the patriarchy and it's like, girl, let's be honest, the standard of attractiveness is only going up because there's just infinite ways to spend money to enhance that, you could rearrange your whole face and at some point, you'd just have to accept you need to live your life because you know there are people who are always going to be more attractive than you. I am tired of seeing "pinkpilled" or "feminists" live somewhere and not work or go to college because they're afraid the big bad world will punish them because they're ugly (and not just because they're a woman, lmao). You're online too much. A company isn't going to hire a person who has never worked a day in their life but is pretty over a person who fits a job description to the T and is a little ugly.
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>>2231670>i know DESCRIBED ugly women who are successful. Ugly women totally do not get discriminated when it comes to jobs. Women only get discriminated because they are women and not for being ugly.Such pure copium i cannot. How hard it is for you to grasp that women getting judged on their appearance is also another way women get discriminated against. Lookism towards women is a real thing, its crazy that especially in this year that there are people still denying it.
No. 2231844
>>2231735>i know DESCRIBED ugly women who are successful.Yes
>Such pure copium i cannot.It's copium to describe people who factually exist? If you went outside regularly, you would see that there are many ugly people who exist that are successful and happy. You are so determined to suffer that you don't want to hear actual examples of people that are fine with the fact they are ugly.
>Ugly women totally do not get discriminated when it comes to jobs. When did I say this? I stated in my last post that I think beauty is currency and I 100% believe that people discriminate based on looks. As I stated in my last post though, it doesn't matter how pretty x job candidate is if they don't have the education or experience i.e. looks aren't the full picture. Social networking is also a type of currency, as is education in the job market. The study you're posting an excerpt from isn't showing the full, realistic story after the interview; the ugly candidates just apply for another job and eventually they do get hired. No one is denying lookism, but I also am aware it's not the full picture or story. I know idiots that have forgone college educations and careers to pursue getting plastic surgery because they think it will secure them a future ("the bag"). But the truth is, they're never going to catch up with people who are already attractive in that way and looks don't secure anything inherently. It's exactly as
>>2231755 is saying, women who adhere to pinkpill rhetoric are just racing to the bottom. Instead of analyzing the situation women are in and trying to move on from it and better future generations of women, they want to capitalize on it and see if they can play the game. What tends to happen in these spaces is that they start giving women shit for not "playing the game" the way they do. If a women is cheated on, it's because she isn't pretty enough and she should have spent more money on PS or whatever else. It's ultimately just allowing capitalism to rot your worldview. Femininity is a performance under the patriarchy, it's something you need to essentially buy. While yes, you're always subject to the patriarchy, you don't need to appeal to it. The problem with pinkpillers is that they recognize the patriarchy, but then they just indulge it and if anything just exacerbate the patriarchy. Tbh I consider it a strange branch of choice feminism now.
No. 2231945
>>2231930why dont women ever aim higher why is that always the ultimate goal to be serving a man!? Have bigger dreams for women of the future my god. Why do we as women need to be contingent on a man in order to not work a 9-5? You can be a home maker without a man women just dont want to for some reason.
Makes no sense unless you want children then sure that's your funeral.
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>encouraging nudes
>calling women pedos for not liking bald scrotes
>lookism sperging
>mena women ugly
>hip dips
>tradthots
No. 2232031
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someone should thanos snap this thread, the fandom thread and the ugly man psyop thread so we can bring back this website to the good old times, all of the newfags bringing their tiktok and twitter takes that somehow need to be long threads disappear and remove dumbass shit and shitposting in general from the curse of autosage and redtext
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>there’s nothing wrong with being a housewife
>it’s women’s biological nature to want to have children and build a family
>women who criticize heterosexual dynamics are all ugly untouchables trying to steal our men or are jealous
>ugly bastards are still desirable
>young bastards are still desirable
>were straight so that means we have to seek sex every time in our life because sex is definitely a need and not a want or desire that quickly turns into a vice
what’s the point of coming to this website if it’s just going to transform into a handmaiden circlejerk with nobody really caring
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my unpopular opinion is that /ot/ should just be nuked, wiped clean
bans should start at 1 month minimum and ban evasion should result in perma
No. 2232095
>>2232082>encouraging codependency and being rendered helpless when he leaves you, abused you and you have no job experience to help you leave a shitty situation where the male will always have more of the power, freedom, energy and independence to do what he wants where you’re always shackled you’re retarded, hopeless, lack any kind of skills and scared to live alone and fend for yourself, you’re the most cowardly, stupid and selfish who lies back on the false comforts of patriarchy while it ruins the lives of others. i could care less about your retarded opinions and you’re the types of people who should be quickly sterilized, grow a fucking spine and learn to be content with yourself and get your own fucking money without it being given to you by a man. you aren’t a child, being a mother isn’t a special gift or role because every single mammal and animal on this planet does it, you’re doing the bare minimum just for better treats in the cage. kill yourself
(infighting/a-logging) No. 2232123
>>2232120yeah women with no other choice that can't leave or have been instilled since birth that they're only good for X thing is not the discussion of today's topic. women with free will that are able to manage their situations and their lives who choose to have children and not work don't equate to whatever your 3rd worlder mother went through, sorry to tell you.
>>2232121it's pretty brain damaged to think every instance of a woman choosing to not work in 2024 is due to oppression
No. 2232127
>>2232119Lions
The males are just there for watching the cubs and killing eachother/encroaching rival animals like hyenas.
No. 2232135
>>2232107Close to half of mothers whose husbands earn $250,000 or higher a year (46%) are not in the labor force.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-real-housewives-of-america-dads-income-and-moms-workIt's actually either a very poor person thing or a rich person thing Interestingly enough.
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>>2232144Once people get actual responsibilities your ideology becomes very unattractive.
You can be mad about that all you want.
No. 2232153
>>2232144you seem to care more than anybody else itt, you're so riled up ready to argue with the boogeyman convincing you to be a stay at home trad wife when that was never even the point. you retards are just so broken mentally and wrapped up in ideology that you think everyone is out to get you. nobody is taking away your 9 to 5, you can continue to live in your filth by yourself, i repeat you DO NOT HAVE TO QUIT YOUR JOB
>>2232146>>2232148you know you're losing this argument when you have nothing left to say and you start shitflinging like this and throwing insults. extremely pathetic.
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>>2232150why would you believe this organization? are you stupid?
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>>2232167Where do you fuckers keep coming from, like seriously who keeps posting this site in places that attracts these types of morons? It can’t just be 4chan
No. 2232191
>>2232180Given the fact that even according to Gallup 40% of women without children still prefer to do the laundry over being mistreated by management?
And that's with 20 years of corporate and academic institutions advertising a very specific girl boss you can have it all position?
No. 2232202
>>2232193>>2232195They're just insecure that they might've chosen badly.
Look at how vicious the attacks are vs how calmly they're being responded to.
No. 2232204
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>>2232191I sucked up to a scrote boss and got put in an awesome management position where I do often have it all.
See what happens when you please the right men and not fall for the bait of thinking popping out kids and being a bangmaid will earn you respect?
No. 2232209
>>2232204Her fate was still pleasing a man and now she's bragging about it
Lol
No. 2232215
>>2232198this was an intelligent counter response. hit the showers buddy you won the argument.
next debate topic: we should start whacking men in the nose whenever they say the wrong thing!
No. 2232219
>>2232209I got my independence and awesome job. My boss will retire and I will take reign of the company.
What will tradkaths have in the end?
No. 2232221
>>2232129they get trapped socially because them and people around them got meme'd into thinking being an abused woman is more embarassing than being an
abusive man
No. 2232223
>>2232219Money I didn't have to work for
KEK
No. 2232229
>>2232223For now, and for as long as you are willing to put up with his shit.
I know if my boss ever tried to abuse me I would have a dozen layers of legal recourse.
I hope you are never discarded, it would be terrible for you.
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>make one post ITT
>get the baited everyone award (6 hour ban)
>sleep
I'm back bitches
No. 2232234
>>2232213>>2232217Which of these two perspectives is correct?
You can't have it both ways. Either Tradwives are doing "chores" they'd already be doing with a small extra portion (it's a much smaller amount of work to chop up some extra veggies vs the actual cooking, buying and washing time for example) or is the moid the lucky one?
No. 2232237
>>2232228What does that mean sorry I'm unfamiliar
>>2232229My nigel is amazing, I don't know how I got as lucky as I did
No. 2232252
>>2232245It's actually women who aren't fans of the idea.
Yup, that’s right. The survey showed 57% of both men AND women expressed a desire to give up their careers to stay at home full time.
https://archive.is/qjyBK No. 2232255
>>2232245Only time I have ever seen men opt for stay at home is when they are invalids (who cannot find meaningful work that pays) or lazy bastards who mask being maid and babysitter so they can secretly stay at home playing games on their woman's dime. I never ever see a "stay at home dad" story and be jealous, it's always some dumpy scrote doing the bare minimum while he psyops his wife to go to work and then "help him out" with the majority of the household shit anyway.
Men are breadwinners because they know their own deal.
No. 2232280
>>2232274At least that retirement home and the shit tier healthcare will exist because of me.
What would you have otherwise? M.A.I.D LOL?
No. 2232295
>>2232150It's unattractive because men do
not do childcare, regardless of their wife's employment status or theirs. Women with grown kids and some cash to spare for a babysitter, or women who live in countries that accomodate working mothers are much less reluctant to work full time. It's actually a great way to maintain a social life, which is notoriously an issue for SAHMs.
>>2232205Yeah. But this is not the norm for many western couples. There is a real double bind where women are expected by some men to stay at home, to then be treated like burdens because they don't bring in money. Happens all the time, even in couples where it's culturally acceptable to be a SAHM with financial oversight. Men go out to work and see how other men handle their own marriage, think 'oh, why isn't my wife helping with the bills', go back home, conflict happens. The fact is i don't know a single SAHM over the age of 30 who recommends having no work experience whatsoever, no degree, etc.
No. 2232296
>>2232283duolingo?
>>2232284what do you think motherhood is retard? no man goes into a marriage to be sexless and not serviced, you’re a tard if you seriously think he will always eat your pussy and treat you like a queen, his dick will always be involved and rule the household. you people are so moronic it almost feels like you’re so young because you don’t even understand what relationships really are like without the fluff and appearances
No. 2232306
>>2232296Anon, I am married. I have been married for a decade. Being a homemaker and taking care of a family is not
>suck dick, birth baby, clean dishes Your idea of motherhood sounds like its influenced by pornography
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>tradfaggery taking over LC
it’s so over
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>>2232307>women who are doing these things aren't on the bad end of a deal I genuinely hope you won't be faced with this reality even though you are very retarded.
No. 2232322
>>2232313It's actually inevitable.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/03/genetics-plays-role-in-deciding-at-what-age-women-have-first-child-says-studyThe women who feel a need to have (and like) children are obviously more likely to pass on those instincts to their children.
That all the "professional" women don't really have any sort of long term plan for this is their problem.
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This is what tradthots want to bring back.
No. 2232326
>>2232307Look, you don't have to act like having a baby with a man isn't something that puts you in a vulnerable position. I get wanting to be a housewife but let's not pretend to be retarded here
>aren't on the bad end of a dealIf you're so good at finding good deals with men who are willing to provide and treat you well, why don't you share your secret? You realize there are tons of women in financially
abusive/violent/etc marriages who would
love to crack the code? People would pay you if you had a method to detect bad husbands. But you don't. You can't make sure a man is secure enough to be a suitable husband as a SAHM, this is something you can only find out after years and years and marriage and even then you can get bad surprises.
No. 2232343
>>2232332Name a single living thing on earth that doesn't attempt to create and spread as much of itself as possible. We even have names for ones that get out of their predator-prey cycle (like humans). They're called invasive species.
Did you know even deer become opportunistic carnivores when there isn't anything to hunt them?
You're the freak of nature, not the others.
No. 2232348
>>2232340Embarrassing.
>>2232331Fair enough, then i agree.