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No. 2354018

>no racebait
>no infighting
>don't reply to bait
>rest of /ot/ board rules apply
>farmhands are always watching

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No. 2354026

>>2354018
>two moids with typical brains shouting
My high-sex drive giga-stacy threadpic was better tbh

No. 2354031

>>2354026
Shut up with your stupid stacy larp

No. 2354042

In a perfect world all men would look like Sonic the Hedgehog

No. 2354046

>>2354031
It was about the high sex drive stacy from the last thread but it's hilarious that uplifting another anon is foreign to you. I must have been bragging kek

No. 2354055

>>2354046
>high sex drive stacy
Oxymoron just like the oxymoron of a “good man” kek

No. 2354057

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>>2354055
anon just because you have paved over your dopamine receptors to be stimulated by "other things" doesn't mean other women can't have a high sex drive

No. 2354063

>>2354042
Sonic doesn’t do it for me but I wish I could be a cartoon rabbit so i could bang bugs bunny. He’s so suave and nonchalant.>>2354026
What was it? Post it kek.

No. 2354069

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>>2354057
>you must be fat if you actually aspire to higher interests than having your pussy invaded by a mosquito penis
The ones that are fat are the “high sex drive” gigastacies kek, they also always go for either this weird mother goddess body trying to accentuate their bodies for moids or try to look like a roided hot mess. You don’t have a high sex drive and you’re not a stacy, you’re an autist who posts on LC. Get rid of your pathetic larp

No. 2354076

>>2354069
I have no idea what you're talking about but you're probably jealous of that pretty girl you posted with the nice body

No. 2354097

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>>2354046
Anyways you might just be gay anon. A lot of later in life lesbians think other women are crazy or faking a sex drive but it turns out they're just gay. Then they become total degenerates when they get into their first serious relationship with a woman

No. 2354103

>>2354098
>the average sex expression of a normie woman online is submissive and humiliating…
This needs to change. We need to make humiliating men the default sexual expression for women. Instead of “I want him to fuck my face” it should be “i want to walk him on a lead and force him to eat dirt”

No. 2354104

>>2354099
Lolcow isn't a site for "teens", that is why anons refer to each other as "women" and not "girls". The older userbase here is necessary because they can impart wisdom on avoiding exactly the scenarios that gross you out, or at least objectively looking at why they're seeking out humiliating acts. A lot of the things you've named women don't consider humiliating with a partner they care about so you're looking at it from your own perspective (which is biased, possibly gay) and then projecting it on other women. That is why you sound crazy and people are calling you fat

No. 2354105

>>2354098
>seeing women express their sexual desires is extremely unpleasant to me
In general? Even if that desire has nothing to do with submission and humiliation?

No. 2354107

>>2354057
I'm an autistic with a high sex drive but I will never go and have sex. Mogging you sex havers

No. 2354109

>>2353952
>non-gs homosexual women should just stay closeted and date women secretly
So your solution against homophobia is to throw a select group of lesbians under the bus? This is the most brain-dead take I've ever seen out of this entire gold star discourse.
You can keep trying to bend over backwards and adapt to the queer movement as much as you want, they will keep on taking and taking everything that relates to homosexuals. Using non-goldstars as your sacrificial lambs isn't going to save lesbians from the queer movement or trad homophobes. We will literally never be enough, stop trying to please homophobes.

No. 2354116

>>2354098
>especially not on lolcow
I don't feel that happens a lot outside of designated threads.

No. 2354119

>>2354010
>all there is to life is fucking and sex
That’s a you problem kek, you seem disordered and love leaning into hypersexual activities and interests because there’s some other kind of lacking (perhaps personhood, true identity, etc.) you can’t quite figure out. Telling someone to suicide just because they don’t want to participate in the most animalistic basic thing every species participates in (unless it’s asexual) is really dumb. Reality is depressing and I refuse to live in fantasy land, fantasy land is for retards who want to be coddled by dreams and delusions that don’t mirror every day life. If you getting your fix of dickriding moids literally and figuratively proceeds the importance of women’s development and health then maybe you should be the one to kill yourself, there’s nothing you really offer or bring if you support the priming of young girls and women to the slaughter with a whole host of sexual diseases and dependencies on sex which isn’t healthy sorry not sorry. Buck up buttercup lol, you’re not a stacy for doing what macaques do in the open in front of tourists

No. 2354130

>>2354119
Anon wrote *two sentences that are patently true and if anything, seems to have a much more secure sense of identity than an overly sensitive prude who can't handle Sabrina Carpenter's (widely mocked on LC) pr-team desperation tactics. That anon is correct, you are too sensitive for life itself (created by sex havers) and would probably be better off in a total censorship safe space

No. 2354138

>>2354130
Anon literally said “don’t complain about rape if you have consensual sex!!!!” Absolutely mind blowing that there’s people who think this way and call themselves pro women and feminist.

No. 2354139

>>2354010
not trannyfoiling, i just want to point out that this is the exact behavior terminally online troons display. lolcow has officially succumb to the generation who talks big game online but would shit their pants if confronted irl

No. 2354141

>>2354138
Right?? "Women who have consensual sex can't complain about rape" is literally what scrotes believe, and this mentality doesn't actually help rape victims at all.

No. 2354143

>>2354103
Personally, forcing him to eat dirt would do nothing for me, especially if he is to put his mouth on my pussy. The act should be humiliating for the moid but at the same time pleasurable for the woman.

No. 2354145

>>2354138
Link to the post? You've proven yourself to be an unhinged/unreliable narrator when it comes to recounting events that literally just happened
>>2354139
>a woman not padding her statements with useless qualifiers is a man!!!1
k

No. 2354151

Here’s the link >>2353999


>>2354145
>It’s also stupid to complain about rape and bad things happening in the world but then fuck the same people who contribute to it

No. 2354154

>>2354098
I sort of agree with you, but only in situation where the sexual expression positions the woman as being subject to some kind of rough or demeaning treatment like you alluded to. Lesbian, femdom, and even some straight vanilla expressions of sexuality don't bother me. I wouldn't ever stop another woman from doing anal, oral, or being submissive, but I'm personally repulsed by those things and do not find them sexy in the least. For me it's off-putting in the same way race play is. I just can't put it out of my mind that the person being sexually demeaned belong to a class of people that have been treated like property for thousands of years. I'm too autistic to put that stuff out of my mind and it turns me off.

No. 2354158

>>2354151
I misread your post and thought you were the unhinged person insinuating women enjoy rape, my mistake anon. This is so much worse

No. 2354162

If a woman has highs standards and legitimately puts herself before any mate she chooses, then shaming her for being straight and having a sex drive is scrote tier.

No. 2354165

>>2354151
Hating on women for having a sex drive, for liking 2D even, and saying we contribute to men raping by being horny - can it get more misogynistic and patriarchal?

No. 2354166

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Onions and garlic are a staple of any kind of cuisine. They are the foundation of a house, without them, your cooking will be shit.

No. 2354167

>>2354165
Kek women liking 2d characters and 3d ones never killed anyone. It’s men who are weird.
Let women enjoy their otome games.

No. 2354169

>>2354166
I don't like cooking with fresh garlic because your house and every piece of clothing in it will smell like garlic for days after. I like garlic powder though

No. 2354171

>>2354166
This is for unpopular opinions, nonny, not widely agreed upon facts

No. 2354173

>>2354169
Fresh garlic>>powdered garlic

No. 2354179

>>2354169
why not get pre minced garlic in a jar?

No. 2354180

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>>2354171
I got overly excited thinking about onions so I just typed , I’m sorry nonna.

No. 2354184

>>2354173
Americans have this weird obsession with garlic powder. Every time I’m looking at cooking reels and it’s an American, they’re putting like 11 different random spices into a some shit like a casserole when all they really need is salt, pepper, herbs, stock and garlic. Maybe a splash of wine. White for chicken and fish and red for red meat. They’re deathly afraid someone will accuse them of having unseasoned food. These things don’t even make a difference to the cooking half the time cos they’re in such small amounts they don’t affect the taste.

No. 2354185

>>2354109
don't yell at me lol, go yell at the gs lesbians who have written it into law now that the only women who can come out and call themselves lesbians are women who's never laid a finger on a dick. if non-gs lesbians don't want to go back in the closet in order to protect gs lesbians, then just put on another label. you do realize that a lot of the gay movement is mostly political rather than a personal thing, right? it doesn't matter if you are genuinely, exclusively attracted to the same sex, your sexual past with men is seen as a political trojan horse, and has made so many other people invade lesbian spaces.

No. 2354186

>>2354180
It's understandable friend. I, too, get excited by aromatic vegetables

No. 2354189

>>2354107
Cosigned lol.

No. 2354192

>>2354185
this kind of shit is sexual harassment honestly at this point

No. 2354193

>>2354184
Sometimes a very delicate flavor is yummy. Using wine and herbs is often enough.
But there are also contexts where spices are very much needed, take Indian or Mexican cuisine. So I don’t really fault them.

No. 2354196

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>>2354189
>>2354107
I will yaoi rp your virginity away.

No. 2354197

>>2354192
in all seriousness though, does it really matter? if a non-gs lesbian calls herself bisexual or anything else, as long as she continues to be with women, what is the problem?

No. 2354198

>>2354185
Why would we put on another label when we are lesbians? What law? Why are you not the one I should respond to when you're the one saying something so stupid? Why would lesbians need to expose their traumatic sexual history to "deserve" the title of lesbian? I'm baffled at how homophobic gold stars can be, with this weird superiority complex. Truly no one on this website is normal.
Again, nothing you do will prevent trannies from invading lesbian spaces, but keep telling yourself that.

No. 2354199

>>2354173
I used to use fresh garlic but people constantly mentioned to me in public that I smell like garlic and it was embarrassing and yes I shower it was just in the air somehow since my house has shit ventilation

No. 2354200

>>2354197
no what i meant that the post itself if sexual harassment at this point

No. 2354201

>>2354185
This I can partly agree with nonna. Women who came out later and had relationships with men were never a “bother” in the lesbian community, given how pervasive heterosexual norma and misogyny is it’s not surprising

I think that ever since that stupid paper about comphet took a hold on the LBGTQ+ everyone and their grandma started identifying as lesbian despite willingly and lovingly fucking men before.
Having bad experiences with men and misogyny isn’t what makes you a lesbian and that’s something that many don’t want to understand or acknowledge. Hence why lesbianism is for everyone and anyone now.

No. 2354202

>>2354199
>>2354169
The trick is to wash it with cold water. Hot water cements the smell on to things like hands and knives etc. rinse with cold.

No. 2354204

>>2354199
I use it in the Italian way nonnita (II don’t know if you can describe it that way kek). But I cut it in half and press it and then remove it after it frees the aroma.

No. 2354207

>>2354198
i mean yes if you are homosexual then you are one, that's not what i'm arguing about, i'm just reiterating what gs lesbians are basically saying and it made me think that the gay and lesbian movements are just political claptraps instead of something personal. which i disagree with personally, but whatever. again, go yell at the gs lesbians, they're the ones who gets to decide who's gay and who's not, apparently.

they won't rest until all non-perfect gay people go back to pretending to be straight and secretly be with the same sex.

No. 2354208

>>2354201
What I mean to say it’s that it’s not the L the problem it’s the B and the Q.

No. 2354210

>>2354207
So you don't agree with what you said? I'm genuinely confused now.

No. 2354211

>>2354207
so you are not even a lesbian but a manlover yourself who gleefully brings up anon's sexual past in some sort of humiliation ritual way and imply that she personally carries some sort of social moral obligation related to her sexual past, just in some sort of nice little mind game way.

like i said, this kind of shit is some sort of sexual harassment at this point

No. 2354212

Reaganomics work. Ive been integrating the trickle down theory into our play dates with my niece and she’s getting the gist of it.

No. 2354213

>>2354208
Many bisexuals have extreme internalized biphobia, more than a faggot military man with self internalized homophobia kek.

No. 2354216

>>2354211
>sexual harassment
hilarious considering how often and unrelenting lesbians can be when they decide to sexually harass bi women 24/7/365

No. 2354217

>>2354212
Can you explain further? I’m intrigued

No. 2354229

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>>2354212
>Reaganomics
?

No. 2354230

>>2354207
there's no such a thing as gay, homosexuality is secondry and lesbianism is political(bait)

No. 2354243

>>2353991
Carnal and savage like males but in a completely different way, in a completely different body. How am I supposed to be optimistic about this difference? I just don't see how it's desirable to want something inside of you and not be able to do the same back. Being grounded in our bodies and choosing to get pleasure as a female means there's as much of a mental difference between us and males as there is a physical one. It's not the same and I'm having trouble accepting that.

No. 2354244

>>>/ot/2353954
wait. come back, blackpill psycho. what does the word 'mallow' mean to you? I need to know, I can't figure it out

No. 2354262

>>2354230
today i learned that the women who never had a boyfriend or a husband and never had sex at all period are the true and honest lesbians even if they've never been turned on by another woman before. that's how powerful male influence is, and that's how weak female touch has.

No. 2354281

>>2354216
as if bisexual women aren't obsessed with the idea of dating lesbians because they're too disgusted with being in a relationship with another bisexual kekk(infighting)

No. 2354297

>>2354281
how can that be when they consistently leave y'all for men? coping hard atp(infighting)

No. 2354317

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Lolcow is, currently, the best imageboard on the Internet. Perhaps even the best website for clicking around for fun. I've been trying to find some other IBs, forums, etc to hang around in lately, and they all suck in one way or another. For the majority of them, they typically have at least one of these 4 issues;
>dead
>full of moids (thusly full of nothing but porn)
>full of normies (thusly full of nothing but worthless blogging)
>tries too hard to be PC (don't need to explain this one) or oldweb (these sites are usually ran and used by people born in the mid/late 90s-early/mid 00s. It's inauthentic and weird)
Lolcow has none of these issues. I can check my favourite threads every day knowing at least 95% of them will have been bumped. I know these bumps won't be porn, something something muh dick, something something da jewz, etc. Even if there is bait, it's funny most of the time. There is a culture here, as there is with every website, but you don't have to be a specific person or anything. Just a non-normie woman that doesn't fellatio men every waking moment of her life. My only complaint is that you can't dunk on moids based on race, because literally every woman, especially non-whites, know some races treat women better than others. I've noticed on a lot of other IBs, their opinions on stuff is plain wrong and retarded. I don't want to sperg too hard, but on a certain other IB, I saw some braindead moid say one of my favourite game genres NEEDS good visuals to be considered good, the writing doesn't matter. No nonna, not even one of the most Japan-hating ones, would say something blatantly untrue (going off sales) and anti-art.
Nevertheless, Lolcow is my eternal holy land, I love all my nonnies. KAM and I hope all of their worthless websites consume them.

No. 2354328

Life would have been significantly better now hundreds or even a thousand years ago. This isn't some pickme tradwife shit. I hate waking up for work, I hate waking up before the sun. I hate being on my feet for 8 hours. I hate being addicted to the internet. I hate knowing what I know about the world. I hate living in an overpopulated shithole city where doing things like going to the grocery store feels like being in a sardine tin. I just want to live a quiet life as a widow, picking berries and whatever shellfish I can find that washed ashore. I can't even larp as a medieval peasant because I am not allowed to dig a well in my own backyard where I live.

No. 2354359

>>2354328
If you were an actual farmer you would still rise before the sun and be on your feet all day. But yes, there wouldn't be the constant info and overstimulation of modern life.

No. 2354377

>>2354328
Kek you don’t know the amount of effort you have to put to be a farmer, it’s not “berries and cream and lalala”.

No. 2354378

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>>2354377
Which is delicious by the way. I’m craving it now.

No. 2354383

>>2354359
>>2354328
medieval workers were treated better than modern day workers, there's whole hour long videos on youtube about this subject. workers were treated like slaves when the industrial revolution happened.

No. 2354386

>>2354383
Look when you have a farm it's not your boss who makes you rise early, it's the cows. And you will busy all day long with all your chores.

No. 2354389

>>2354328
It's a double edged sword. You spend most of your life starving and pushing your mind and body to its absolute limits for survival, but yes, getting food and seeing another day back then was far more rewarding and spiritually fulfilling than it is now. You do have to learn to live in a constant state of hyper vigilance and be ready for death to greet you at a moments notice.
Every little cut in a pre plumbing world could mean necrosis and death.
very give and take.
Have you ever read "Industrial Society and It's Future"?

No. 2354392

>>2354386
Also I'm very grateful for the invention of the washing machine. Take a look at how laundry used to be done. 38:30

No. 2354400

my family lived in coastal villages for generations. I could live off of the mussels I find at the beach, I don't want to go far back just to tend to the fields kek
>>2354389
>Have you ever read "Industrial Society and It's Future"?
yes
>You do have to learn to live in a constant state of hyper vigilance and be ready for death to greet you at a moments notice.
I am more afraid of random acts of violence now.
>>2354392
I literally live in an apartment building that doesn't allow washing machines, I very often wash my clothes in the tub or sink.

No. 2354401

>>2354328
Nonna , the average age was 30 years old kek. A cut was a death sentence and you had to pray the gods that the water you were drinking wasn’t infested with cholera or feces at best.

No. 2354403

>>2354401
And I like shitting in a toilet too

No. 2354405

>>2354401
>the average age was 30 years old kek
that isn't really true. most people lived to their 60's-80's if they managed to survive infancy and childhood, which was the hardest part.

No. 2354406

>>2354328
I can bring you to my grandma in Africa nonna. She lives in the mountain. She’s quite peaceful , she’s 90 now.

No. 2354407

>>2354400
Just find a way out of the city like I did. You'd be surprised how many munchie crunchies will let you live in a yurt behind their house in exchange for doing yardwork and being an extra pair of eyes to protect their property.
>>2354403
I live in the country and I prefer pissing outside than in a toilet. idk why. I'm planning on digging and building an outhouse just for fun.

No. 2354409

>>2354406
The toilet is outside in a private latrine that gets emptied a couple of times in like the span of years. When I was small I was scared shitless to fall down in the hole kek.
She uses wood to cook still, mom bought her a fridge though, which has helped her a lot.
She has some cows and chickens too.

No. 2354411

>>2354407
That’s because you don’t know the pungent fumes that stale feces leave kek. It’s strong.

No. 2354418

>>2354400
Kek that isn't the same at all. You have running water. If you lived hundreds of years ago you would have to do it like in the video: In a cold river, beating the shit out of the laundry for ages.

No. 2354419

>>2354406
Does she live alone? What kind of hobbies/interests does she have, what does she like to do? Is she happy? I'm not the nona you're talking to but I always like hearing about how people live away from busy society, especially if they live alone.

No. 2354422

>>2354389
>You spend most of your life starving and pushing your mind and body to its absolute limits for survival, but yes, getting food and seeing another day back then was far more rewarding and spiritually fulfilling than it is now.
I feel like if you know that you'd be pushing your mind and body to the limits for survival in the past, then even if keeping yourself alive isn't as inherently rewarding and spiritually fulfilling in the present, you can find a way to make decisions and spend your time in a way that would be more rewarding and spiritually fulfilling, though. Right? Like if you say "I wish I lived hundreds or thousands of years ago and was intimate with the struggle for survival" then you can go volunteer with a really bleak cause or foster children or otherwise take on the kind of task you want, in addition to your emails job that causes you despair. no?

No. 2354425

>>2354411
That's why I plan to use pine sawdust to neutralize the scent and ventilate the outhouse.
You act like I've never used/seen an outhouse before.

No. 2354431

>>2354419
Now that she’s older we have hired a lady that helps her during the morning and afternoon, but she’s auto sufficient and in good health for her age. She is not living in an ultra remote place, there are people living there and she has some neighbors who tend to her too, from her church. She lives where “Lipton tea” leaves are picked kek.
She was always a hardworking woman, she had 7 kids (including my mom) and along with my grandpa , she managed to put them through school despite not being super rich. I asked her about her youth once and she just told me that she didn’t have time for hobbies kek.
But she’s peaceful now, she likes tending to her garden still, mom and her siblings also built her a nice house so she feels like her “hard work paid off kek”. We are in the process of putting a toilet though , last time I was there it was already built , but it wasn’t functioning, I actually thinks it’s working now.

No. 2354434

>>2354418
yeah I'd take that in a heartbeat if it meant I didn't have to stand on a packed train for 40 minutes in the summer

No. 2354435

>>2354431
You know how old people get at a certain point? She’s like that, she always goes on and about how “she’s ready to die peacefully now” kek.

No. 2354446

>>2354418
that sounds comfy compared to modern civilization, chilling at the riverside in nature. everywhere is full of shitty people now who are poisoning everything and staking claim to every piece of land in existence. i don't mind washing clothes if i don't have to work 24 hr shifts

No. 2354447

>>2354431
Aw that actually sounds really nice. And it's sweet she's got family support too.
>>2354435
Hopefully shes got many happy years ahead of her though

No. 2354516

I know hating tattoos is a moid opinion but I do… I don't always hate them aethetically but theres like an inverse correlation between those who can afford them and those who get them. Once knew a guy who needed help paying rent but also blew 3.5k on a massive sleeve for "mental health" reasons. Lots of the people I've met, specifically with highly visible tattoos, are a certain type. It is a dating red flag for me

No. 2354547

>>2354516
Depends on the type of tattoos , I think some tattoos are tacky and I honest prefer a bare body, but I can still enjoy a good tattoo. But I agree that those who prioritize tattoos over living within their means are retards, but that can be universally said for every hobby.

No. 2354550

>>2354547
Face , neck and hands tattoos are retarded though.

No. 2354553

>>2354516
hating tattoos is not a "moid opinion", most zoomer moids have tattoos themselves

No. 2354560

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>>2354550
Back tattoos are sexy, I like those, you also have more reign to get big pieces. This is very nice and artistic to me for example.

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>>2354560
This one too. I’ll put a nsfw tag since there’s a peek of boob.

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>>2354328
I think the best time to live is NOW. In the past there was too much disease around ever corner, women had no rights, no running water including toilets and showers or easy access to food. Things aren't perfect now, but this is as good as it gets.
Because in the near future AI and robots are going to destroy humanity. I think even in just like 20 years it will be impossible to escape having instant realistic AI rape porn made of every female on earth, including children and toddlers. Eventually everyone will be deeply mentally ill because of it, women for being victims and men from wanking off every 5 seconds to violent porn so that they crave it in real life too. Children grow up thinking this is normal.
AI drone robots will make war an instant slaughter. They can be given 360 view around them with telescopes, able to target and shoot humans from a mile away. They're solid metal and made for war, they can't be shot or killed. The AI component means they learn how to find and kill humans easier every kill, to see through any disguise etc. There will be no way to fight back. This isn't just some doompilled shit, this is just the way things are realistically headed. Just look at these roboto dogs, able to walk and open doors for each other. They're not building those for "fun", they want to use them for war. Everyone will be at the mercy of our world leaders, and dictators have a habit of starting shit.

No. 2354811

Remember to keep an eye on your lesbian friend, their minds are a mere step away from wanting to troon out.(bait)

No. 2354817

>>2354595
Good think I will get a euthanasia when my current family members die

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No. 2354831

>>2354328
Everyone responding to you is horrible at history but why would you want to go back to medieval times when women didn't have rights due to christianity being so prominent in daily life? Wouldn't you want to live in the bronze or iron age in northern, celtic, or etruscan europe where women had rights? Imagine walking into a forest and seeing a cool ass shrine dedicated to a god or goddess carved into a tree trunk too (these were all destroyed)

No. 2354840

>>2354831
>seeing a cool ass shrine dedicated to a god or goddess carved into a tree trunk too (these were all destroyed)
this is so sad

No. 2354882

>>2354595
>In the past there was too much disease around ever corner
that happened when the world started trading with each other via silk road, conquering, colonization, etc.
If I lived in a small village with few people, the odds of contracting a lethal disease are slim.
>no running water including toilets
i will shit in a hole idc
>easy access to food
i regularly go to the beach to collect mussels. bam there's my protein. i'd also probably be good at foraging too, i'm sure most women back in the day knew what berries were healthy and what berries would kill you.
everyone having easy access to food is what makes people fat, lazy, and ignorant of things like the demonic factory farming industry.
>>2354831
it's so far back in time that i can't even paint a picture in my head tbh

No. 2354894

>>2354821
I need an Elsie version of this image tbh

No. 2354944

>>2354894
Elsie Kaczynski mugshot.jpg

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I've been watching Office recently and it made me realise you can't suffer if you're American. Despite all the bitching about politics or shrinkflation you still get to enjoy your fake jobs, the money, the cheap goods and cute guys. Oh noe you'll have to work remotely, what a shame.

The worst you can do is to be Pam

No. 2354950

I dont love the movie mean girls and much about the plot feels weirder when you think about the fact that it is written by adults and not a teenage girl

No. 2354951

>>2354950
Mean Girls is an amazing movie you should rewatch it and reevaluate. You need to think about it deeper

No. 2354956

>>2354950
Why tf would a hollywood movie be written by teenagers? Use your brain, anon.

No. 2354968

>>2354948
You do realise that a sitcom is not a reflection of the real world right? The office is not a documentary

No. 2354972

>>2354948
>cute guys
Is anyone on the office cute??

No. 2354979

>>2354948
I fucking wish it was like the sitcom. Irl there's no cute guys and everyone thinks I'm weird

No. 2355060

>>2354180
Still thinking about this anon, that was so cute wtf. She just loves her onions

No. 2355134

>>2355132
Anon… the meme is about how cheating is fun and worth it. Of course women don't want to be fucking cheated on kek

No. 2355135

>>2354166
I agree completely.

No. 2355136

>>2354328
Working in dementia wards and retirement homes, I've come to wonder if an increased life expectancy is not necessarily a good thing and we're just prolonging human suffering.

It seems like for most of history, if you had something wrong with you, you were quickly filtered off and didn't suffer too long. The congenitally sickly and disabled typically died early on as children, and if you got unwell in your 40s, 50s or 60s, you typically died by the year's end. Even things like Schizophrenia had a much shorter suffering period as you inevitably hurt yourself and got an infection, now schizos are kept alive until they die in their 50s or 60s.

Could it be that modern society has it wrong and having a leaner, meaner filter keeps the population fit and healthy? It seems like the burden of wah wah existentialism comes from living too long as well, as that whole literary movement is correlated with life expectancy starting to rise in Europe.

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>>2354831
>ywn be a Stacey celtic druidess worshipping goddesses in the woods
It hurts, nonas

No. 2355147

2010s pop culture, music, and fashion was better than nowadays. There were cooler, more interesting and always new things popping up in the 10s year after year. The 10s had a lot of originality meanwhile the 2020s are just rehashes of shit from previous decades and I can't think of a single new subculture that was formed despite us being 5 years into the decade already.
I like that the 10s also created "aesthetics" but nobody was freaking out and calling every single piece of clothing aesthetic or asking what aesthetic something belonged to.

No. 2355149

>>2355147
I agree with you. I feel like TikTok and micro trends are very creatively stifling, ironically.

No. 2355162

>>2355149
There were so many different looks happening in the 2010s. Imo a lot of looks now appear similar and revolve around 2000s mall goth looking accessories purchased from aliexpress and preppy today is just the "beige mom look: plastic material edition". I think this is because everyone is on the same apps now so they see the same thing over and over again and end up recreating the same looks just with slightly different variations.

No. 2355166

>>2355147
The fashion trends were horrible in the early 10s but got a little better later. I can't say I disagree on the rest of your post, I'm kind of out of touch with what's popular in terms of pop culture.

No. 2355171

>>2355166
I disagree. I liked the pretty twee look that had 60s mod elements. There was palewave, health goth, seapunk, different military and tech looks etc. I even miss the bomber jackets that were popular for a bit. So many coherent styles were born. Late 2010s was worse to me because it seemed like things started to get sloppy and those Thrasher shirts and sweatshirts with random Russian words on them became popular even though those items were hideous.

No. 2355177

>>2355171
>>2355162
NTA but health goth was literally just black sportswear with maybe some layering and accessories kek (reposting because I replied to the wrong person)

No. 2355180

>>2355177
And it looks better than 99% of outfits born from online trends today. It's a timeless cool look with a classic color palette compared to something like goblin faeriecore where I have to look at some boomer hippie fit with random alibaba spikes tacked on.

No. 2355181

>>2355180
those aesthetics incorporate spikes now?

No. 2355182

>>2355177
Strong emphasis on "maybe"

No. 2355189

>>2354950
Why so many posters are this media illiterate?

No. 2355214

>>2355141
There's still time, nona. We have a witchcraft thread. Go seek your goddess in the woods!

No. 2355222

>>2355171
>sweatshirts with random Russian words on them
nvm I think we didn't have the same trends in the first place then. I've never seen anyone wearing this.

No. 2355229

>>2355222
you havent seen alttards wearing the molchat doma shirts?

No. 2355237

>>2355214
Nona you're right. Time to become a witch and become the change I want to see in the world.

No. 2355238

>>2355147
you have some serious nostalgia induced cataracts because the 2010s were easily the ugliest time in fashion of all time and the beginning of the endless derivativeness and ultra fragmentation as a result of the internet we are seeing today. clothes completely stopped being good quality then too

No. 2355244

>>2354948
There are no cute guys in america

No. 2355250

>>2355147
I don't understand when people nowadays use "you're stuck in the 2010s" as an insult when it comes to fashion/music/aesthetic etc. Because what does the 2020s have? Like genuinely? The 2020s has AliExpress SHEIN fashion that the little Gen Alphas wear, AI slop music, and YouTube Shorts for its aesthetic.

No. 2355251

>>2355229
No. Trends and brands can vary depending on where you are so this could be why.

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>>2354972
Stanley is really cute

No. 2355267

Things are going to get really ugly for white women in the next few years and they are really going to try and have each other's backs.

The government is mass importing rapey Muslim and Indian and Mexican moids and of course their main target is white women. The Rotherham shit showed white men failed miserably to protect WW. Liberal white men are also the biggest spreaders of Karen and other anti white woman memes.

Intersectional feminists and WOC mostly hate and resent white women, see WW as their main sexual competition, and will throw everyone else under the bus for a crumb of white dick so they won't come save you either. My advice to all white women is buy a gun and be vigilant at all times, you are under attack from all sides.

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>>2355238
When I think of 2010s I think of 80s and 90s fashion because it started to come back around then. When I was in elementary school it was all about 70s fashion with bell bottoms. Middle school was all about skinny jeans and wearing leggings under Jean skirts. 2010s was all about wearing leggings as jeans. I’m talking the funkiest leggings you could find. Double points if it had crosses or a galaxy on them. This was also the time when emos and scene kids started coming up so a lot of hello kitty, invader zim and Neon skinny jeans. . And this was peak gyaru and Lolita fashion that all the gen z girls of today are desperately trying to replicate. Also those damn lita boots. This is what my 30 year old brain remembers from the 2010s. I think the last major fashion that had everyone in a chokehold was the “swagger” fashion. Everyone was dressing like a stud in 2016 kek. Also anything from American apparel was highly coveted. I still want those American apparel disco shorts/leggings iykyk kek.

No. 2355274

>>2355272
Damn I miss having the craziest colour leggings possible. Galaxy wolf girls reunite. Good times.

No. 2355278

>>2355267
The projection. White women did this shit to themselves by voting against their own interest 2x in a row. White women largely hate other women even themselves. Because again look at how they voted. White women have handmaids tales parties but want people to pity them? At least when you get raped and killed by illegal immigrants it becomes the entire nations rallying cry to get you Justice. Any other group of women are just shit out of luck. Also who protects minority women from predatory white men? I guess white men raping black, brown and white children and women is just par for the course kek. Y’all say this and then go and brag about being sexually attracted to serial killers and child rapists. Sure jan

No. 2355279

>>2355237
There's a witchcraft thread. I've been starting to do my own spells

No. 2355288

>>2355272
30 years old too here and thanks for listing all the reasons why I only started dressing like a normal human being recently. All the trends when I was a kid until recently were pure trash and there weren't alternatives if you wanted to wear normal clothes. Seeing pictures of my sisters and I as kids and teenagers pisses me off because we all looked like shit and they had the worst hairstyles possible for their facial features too.

No. 2355290

The world would be better if people of a sexuality only dated within their sexuality. Gs4gs, bi4bi, feb4feb, etc. It's just better to be with someone you can relate to in that area, sure it might not be a dealbreaker to some but it definitely would prevent a lot of issues. Hell the trannies who conceptualised t4t had a point, even though they relate on shared mental illness kek. It makes for a generally better relationship imo. I've seen gs say they're okay with febfems yet still prefer someone who's fully ssa and can relate back to their ssa, that thing, and that should be perfectly fine and valid and whatever.
Also, if you're of one sexuality and you only go for another sexuality which isn't your own, like bis going for only lesbians, you're transbian level of fetishist imo. Which again leads to my first point

No. 2355296

Store bought soy milk is disgusting and has probably only 5% soy content. My mom who grew up soaking soybeans, blending them and cooking the liquid into actual soy milk seethes at the knowledge of it existing. If you buy "soy milk" you got scammed for sugar water, or maybe it's just where I'm from.

No. 2355297

>>2355265
He’s not and he still cheated on his wife

No. 2355324

Men who casually openly talk about sex are the worst kind of men. I'm not talking about men being gross going "big tits, would nut on those hurrdurr", they know they're being sexist and that it's off-putting to a lot of women but they still think it's funny so that's why they do it. I'm talking about men who act like sex is the most natural thing in the world, like they are "safe" and you "shouldn't feel ashamed" to talk to them so they act a bunch of invasive questions insisting they have a right to know about your personal sex life. They're worse than the aforementioned group because they're so manipulative, they're trying to gain sexual favors from you (talking about sex with a woman turns them on) while acting like that's not it. They force women to lower their sexual guards around men and gaslight them into thinking they're being unreasonable prudes if they don't comply.

Troons basically use the same tactic when talking about periods and tampons. They get to pretend they're being caring "women" but the whole time they're getting turned on by talking about things surrounding real women's vaginas. It's why they never just carry around tampons to hand out to the cis women (who they imagine they can "save"), but they always ask real women "what if i meet a girl who just started her period, should I show her how to use them? How to put it inside her…" they're turned on by it all.

No. 2355336

Fat genes are real and I'm tired of being gaslit about it by everyone. I literally cannot lose weight unless I eat like 600 calories of lean meat and green vegetables and nothing else. If I have 1g of sugar my weight will stay the same. If I have 1,200 calories my weight will stay the same. It's been years and I've done all the research. There is not a single thing you can suggest to me right now that I haven't tried. My body just won't lose weight unless I starve. I do not care how crazy it sounds to other people. This has been my lived experience for my entire teen and adult life.

No. 2355337

>>2355336
Probably not fat genes but a thyroid issue

No. 2355347

>>2355336
No you are right they will gaslight you but you are right. This comes from a woman on the opposite side of the spectrum. No matter what I do I cannot keep weight on for too long. The same with my mother. Any time I’m sad or stressed I can’t eat because my appetite literally goes away. There have been times in my life I’ve cried because I was so hungry onlh to take a bite of food and feel immediately full. If I’m not constantly shoveling down food I will lose weight. It’s why I’ve always resonated with fat girls because it’s just as hard to gain and maintain the weight as it is to lose and maintain it. It’s not cute being 30 and never weighing more than 110 lbs. A lot of people that say that it isn’t true that weight is based on genetics are lying. You can also tell because a lot of fat people look better facially fat and start to look weird and old the more they lose. They also usually have fat parents. My mom was skinny and so was her mom so I’m skinny. It’s simple

No. 2355355

>>2355278
I'm brown but people like you are the reason nobody likes brown people and you ruin things for the rest of us. Y'all just can't stop being bitter hateful and resentful towards white people but still wanna live in white countries and reap all the benefits. White people are the only reason any of us have any rights at all.

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I think if a pregnancy is due to rape, it should be terminated regardless if the woman wants to keep it. It is so inherently, morally, and just cosmically wrong for a rapist to get the biological reward of his genes having been successfully passed on. It's like an even more fucked up counterpart of a person committing vehicular manslaughter to another person, but not having their license revoked and being able to commit such an act again. It is both to protect future victims, and by the moral consequence of being unworthy to get behind a wheel. A rapist should always be castrated by the moral law of such a person losing the right to reproduce, and as a natural act to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
Yet, there's still women out there who would keep such a pregnancy despite it being caused by rape. I'll cut to the chase, this is basically a form of Stockholm Syndrome. They are attached to the parasitic nature of what happened to them, and in such a passive way that has their mind wired into loving that they are pregnant when they were RAPED. Now, women who keep such a pregnancy have made their own choice for their own bodies. It was their choice. You may say it is morally best that they are making their own choices for their own lives, even if it's questionable, but would you say the same for women who are so beaten and brainwashed by abusive scrotes that they defend and routinely crawl back to these moids? Does this not also remind you of Stockholm Syndrome? Just like women who choose to keep forced pregnancies, women who are brainwashed victims of abuse are making their own choice to keep crawling back. But by the NATURE of how fucked their minds have become and how parasitic their lives have transformed, would you say that their choice is a good one or the right one? Is their choice in this context any synonymous to the term "greater good"? Should they be crawling back to their moids just because it's their choice? In a perfect society, these women would be forcibly separated from these moids and kept in a rehab center until they are in a sound mind. We all understand that just because a woman is "open hearted" to their abuser and the situation they were put in BECAUSE of their abuser, doesn't mean it's right to allow her to basically live in the aftermath of what happened to her. She needs help, and she needs to be reset back to the way she was (before the abuse) as much as possible. So why should we act like it's okay for some women to keep rape pregnancies just because it's their choice? The termination of such pregnancies should be mandated, but of course as safe and comfortable as possible for the women. Just as brainwashed women NEED to understand that their abuse is not okay and not acceptable, women who were raped but are fucked up enough to keep the pregnancy NEED to understand that having a child from such a disgusting act is not acceptable and needs to have the wrongs of it fixed. I have had this opinion since I was a teenager, and this is still what my heart is telling me.
Thank you, mahalo.

No. 2355372

>>2355370
Based Tumblr artist kek

No. 2355375

>>2355336
I look a lot like my grandmother, who also had weight issues all her life and it definitely was not for lack of dieting or exercise. What was validating for me was after living with different people they all admitted I didn't have "fat" habits especially because I wasn't a secret eater nor did I order out ever. Sometimes genetics just suck.

No. 2355376

>>2354951
I don’t really think there is a “deeper” to the movie mean girls, anon
>>2354956
>>2355189
Cause its based off of a book that sounds like a teenage girls diary but it was actually written by like a 40 year old woman fantasizing about high school dynamics which I find strange

No. 2355377

>>2355376
Do you think Harry Potter is also weird for that reason?

No. 2355379

>>2355377
Yeah I was never able to get into Harry Potter either, another thing I never liked about it was that Harrys parents were like 14? wtf

No. 2355380

>>2355370
Based nonnie. I always thought women should make their own choices but was secretely grossed out and horrified of someone keeping a pregnancy from rape, it just didn't sound right to me. Also imo women keeping these pregnancies just further normalizes rape. Any sliver of rape sympathy needs to be eradicated.

No. 2355383

>>2355370
>For a rapist to get the biological reward
what do you mean anon? how is the rapist being rewarded in any way if the mother just keeps the baby because she feels an attachment to it or just wants to be a mother?

No. 2355384

>>2355379
>Harrys parents were like 14
What the hell did you get that from? They died at age 21.

No. 2355385

>>2355380
>Rape sympathy
am I dumb for being kind of confused as to how rape victims who choose to keep their pregnancy is ‘rape sympathy’ in any form? It’s the moms choice whether or not she wants to have her child, and if she chooses to have it I don’t think thats being sympathetic to her rapist. Usually rapists don’t commit their crimes with the intention of getting the victim pregnant

No. 2355386

>>2355383
Nta but that's just mental illness, like the op said some form of stockholm syndrome. If she wants to be a mother then she should consensually get with a man and have her kid. Rapist genetics should't be passed on. Children shouldn't be born out of rape and keeping a child born out of rape just further desensitizes people to rape and normalizes it as part of culture/life like "some children are born out of rape".

No. 2355387

>>2355386
Do you guys know what stockholm syndrome is kek? Becoming pregnant and feeling attached to your baby isn’t at all comparable to stockholm syndrome, it’s just feeling connected to your child. I don’t really think that pregnant rape victims who’ve already been traumatized by the crimes that have been committed against them should also be forced to go through the trauma of getting an abortion and losing their child if thats not what they want to do. A mom feeling close to her child is the opposite of mental illness.

No. 2355388

>>2355384
Oh I always see people referring to them as kids so I assumed they were teenagers. And another thing that always felt very cringe to me was just the “magic” and witch themes too. And the character Ron Weasley pisses me off, cause he’s a total worm

No. 2355389

>>2355370
Extremely based. Women will never get out of the abuse if they keep the child. They need to cut off all tethers to their abuser and recover. Not to mention how a lot of courts give the biological fathers rights over the child. The rapist's desire (to impregnate the woman) should never be accepted.

No. 2355390

>>2355385
NTA but a lot of them get off on permanently altering the woman's body and even brain.

No. 2355391

>>2355387
They can just have another one consensually.

No. 2355392

>>2355390
I didnt know that rapists got off on giving women stretch marks
>>2355391
So just to get this straight, you think that a woman who’s been traumatized by being raped but has become pregnant and feels a strong desire to mother the child that was just conceived should, instead, be forced to abort this child that she wants to give her love to: just because you think she should?

No. 2355394

>>2355370
if my dad were a rapist i'd support myself being aborted too

No. 2355395

>>2355385
It's not just her child but a child from a man who raped her. If she was raped, if she was violated against her will, why would she want to risk and permanently altering her body, using her own bodily resources to carry and birth the remainings of a violation? why would she want to raise the remainings of it for 18 years? Either she is mentally ill or she doesn't think rape is that big of a deal and thus downplay the severity of rape for other women.

No. 2355396

>>2355392
NTA but yea. every time she looks at her child that child shares 50% of its genetics with her rapist, its not healthy to continually retraumatize yourself looking at your rapists child thinking "ah yes…. so grateful for what happened since i have my child now". then the child who grows up and finds out the reason they dont have a dad is because that dad is a rapist becomes traumatized by the revelation or worst case scenario you have birthed the son of a rapist who empathizes more with the father they will never kno over the mother who sacrificed even her dignity to raise him

No. 2355400

>>2355370
I agree with you nonna. Keeping a pregnancy from that always ends up further worsening their mental health too and it can build resentment towards the child too, aborting is the best choice in the long run. I think for most it’s a way to reclaim what happened to them? It sounds retarded to me but I don’t feel in the position to villify them that much at the end of the day, I’ve never felt what they felt.

No. 2355401

>>2355395
>Either she is mentally ill or she doesn't think rape is that big of a deal and thus downplay the severity of rape for other women.
I’m gonna go out on a limb anon and assume you don’t have any children, so you might not know what it is like to find out that you’re pregnant and feel a strong pull towards the child you conceived. My children weren’t conceived via rape so I can’t speak for mothers who give birth after being assaulted, but as a woman who has looked at an ultrasound machine and felt this extreme urge to cradle the little cluster of cells on the screen in my bare hands, I can say with full confidence that when you find out theres a part of you growing with you, a desire is just sparked to have them with you for the rest of your life. I guess mothers whos children are conceived from rape are still capable of feeling that attraction to their kids.
>>2355396
Anon I understand if you would choose to abort a pregnancy you conceived from rape, because thats your own personal decision to make, but if a woman wants to have the child growing inside her she should be allowed to. Also how do you know the child wouldn’t have a father? Just because the rapist is in prison doesn’t mean there can’t be a dad who stepped up

No. 2355402

>>2355392
Her strong desire to be a mother for the child conceived out of her rape is her coping mechanism the rape, same way when women are raped or abused they get into bdsm or become prostitutes to "gain control" of the situation. So she is mentally unwell or she doesn't think rape is that bad and consent doesn't really matter.

No. 2355405

>>2355402
>Feeling love for the child is just a coping mechanism for being raped
Or, it could just be as simple as loving the child thats growing inside of her. Also, not trying to sound flippant, but I don’t think a woman choosing her own life path of mothering the child thats lived inside of her body for her entire life and will give birth to a being mentally unwell in any manner. The type of love that you feel for a child when you see one is alive inside you is really hard to describe and understand so its okay if you don’t get what I’m saying though

No. 2355406

>>2355401
And what about the child itself? How do you think they'd feel knowing their father, someone who they share dna with, was a rapist whose violence towards their mother is the reason they are in this world? I agree that it is ultimately the mother's decision, but she should take into account that her child will have to live with that reality their entire life, and how much that will fuck them up. If I found out I was a child of rape, I wouldn't want to be here.

No. 2355407

>>2355370
based, children should not grow up with violent men for fathers if it's avoidable. anti- abortion propaganda is leading a lot of women to still see it as a matter of guilt; without that framework, it is absurd and cruel to have a child with a rapist for a father. it's even worse with our fucked up family courts and how men use children against women in their relationships.

No. 2355408

>>2355401
>pregnant by rape
>listening to the desire to cradle the cluster of cells instead of destroying your rapist's DNA to rightfully revoke his forced reproduction intertwining with your own blood
>picking instinct over what's right
We cannot see eye to eye.

No. 2355410

>>2355401
>I’m gonna go out on a limb anon and assume you don’t have any children, so you might not know what it is like to find out that you’re pregnant and feel a strong pull towards the child you conceived. My children weren’t conceived via rape so I can’t speak for mothers who give birth after being assaulted, but as a woman who has looked at an ultrasound machine and felt this extreme urge to cradle the little cluster of cells on the screen in my bare hands, I can say with full confidence that when you find out theres a part of you growing with you, a desire is just sparked to have them with you for the rest of your life. I guess mothers whos children are conceived from rape are still capable of feeling that attraction to their kids.
If a woman is able to look past and accept being violated and forcefully inseminated that means that rape is a viable and acceptable way of conceiving. If women can accept being forced into sexual intercourse, then definitions of rape and consent don't matter anymore since women are gonna end up "liking" and fall in love with the results of forced sexual intercourse.

No. 2355417

>>2355406
I have no idea how the child would feel anon, but I also assume that the rapist would not be a part of the childs life. And I think you’re putting A lot of emphasis on ‘sharing DNA’ meaning anything, I share DNA with a gross criminal too, but it doesn’t make me want to commit suicide.
>>2355410
I’m not saying that I agree with this fact at all, but whether any of us like it or not, rape is a viable way to conceive. Rape can result in a pregnancy, very easily. And if this mother happens to choose to have her baby, I don’t think she should be guilted or shamed out of feeling love for her child
>>2355414
She’s not “accepting being forcefully inseminated”, anon. She’s making her own decision about following through with, or terminating, the pregnancy.

No. 2355419

>>2355405
Accepting and loving being forcefully inseminated out of a violation is a sign of low self esteem, low self worth and extreme lack boundaries. On a larger scale it implies that consent is not a need for sexual intercourse and conceiving and that women end up enjoying it anyways.

No. 2355420

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abort that thang

No. 2355422

>>2355419
>On a larger scale
There is no “larger scale” anon. Do you think humans should make their decision based off some theoretical “big picture”, or based off what directly effects them and their personal feelings?

No. 2355435

>>2355417
If she accepts and loves the child born out of a violation she accepts and loves being forcefully inseminated. And like you said since rape is viable way and conceive and women may end up even falling in love with the child, why even call it rape at all? It doesn't matter if there is consent since the woman ends up enjoying being forced regardless.
>>2355422
You can look at "the big picture" within your own life and personal feelings too. If you are raped and end up pregnant and want to raise the child of someone who raped ypu, what does that say about your boundaries? If someone can violate you and you end up falling in love and chasing after said violation, what does that say about you?

No. 2355436

>>2355417
'a gross criminal' is vastly different to YOU being created FROM a direct act of violence. If you can't see how that would negatively impact someone, you simply don't appreciate the nature of the crime that is rape.

No. 2355437

>>2355417
Being raped and ending up pregnant literally means being forcefully inseminated. If she decides to keep the child how she not accepting being forcefully inseminated?

No. 2355438

>>2355420
that girl is a stacy

No. 2355440

>>2355435
>chasing after said violation
Feeling the natural human reaction that is loving your child is not chasing rape
>>2355437
I don’t think you’re understanding the words you’re using “accepting being forcefully inseminated” would be accepting having sex, which thus wouldn’t make it being raped. If you’re raped and choose to go through with having your child, that’s just accepting the procreation.

No. 2355444

>>2355440
>that’s just accepting the procreation.
Procreation with someone who raped you.

No. 2355445

>>2355443
Which is her decision to make

No. 2355447

>>2355440
nta but are you esl? because “accepting being forcefully inseminated" is correct in the context of this discussion. You are talking about “accepting being forcefully penetrated".

No. 2355448

>>2355445
that doesn't mean it can't be critiqued and argued to be a coping mechanism from the trauma of the act of rape

No. 2355450

>>2355448
Everyone definitely has the freedom to criqitue whomever they please, but critiquing someone and disagreeing with their life choices is not at all comparable to trying to force a pregnant woman who doesn’t want to get an abortion to receive the procedure, which was what OP said

No. 2355451

>>2355450
it was? well damn, she's right. really based take.

No. 2355453

not that unpopular but fat people should be forced to get abortions too. passing on fat dna is careless and fat parents often raise their children carelessly and their children grow up to become obese and have a whole other host of health issues too

No. 2355454

>>2355453
>not that unpopular
then get tf outta here

No. 2355455

>>2355445
If she accepts the forced insemination that came from the rape and ends up "falling in live" with the fetus that means women enjoy being sexually violated and forced into pregnancy. Unless you think she is mentally unstable.

No. 2355456

>>2355454
shaddap i know some fatty is gonna start crying just wait

No. 2355457

>>2355453
>not that unpopular
Um yeah in the real world this would be legitimate schizospeak. Morbidly obese people shouldn't have children as that's indicative of an actual mental illness but regular fat people? All they need to lose is like 15-40 pounds to be not fat? Yeah I think their children will be okay should they choose to have them.

No. 2355460

>>2355455
I can’t blame a mother for loving or feeling an attraction to her child, it’s not unnatural to feel something for your fetus no matter how it was conceived, so I don’t think I’d go as far as belieiving her to be mentally unstable for still loving the child even after being traumatized by rape

No. 2355461

If you don't feel grossed out, and accept and even "love" the child from a rapist you are mentally ill or you're a handmaiden which is okay since the majority of women are.

No. 2355462

>>2355456
u cheeky lil shit-stirrer ilu
>>2355461
god you're annoying, don't you have children to be looking after? just accept nobody here agrees with you and go

No. 2355463

>>2355460
So rape and being forcefully impregnated is natural and normal. No wonder rapists never go to jail and are always defended.

No. 2355464

>>2355462
fuck I'm useless, I meant to reply to >>2355460

No. 2355466

>>2355463
No, anon. Nowhere in my post do I say rape and being forcefully impregnated is natural or normal. I said feeling love for your fetus, no matter how it may have been conceived, is what is natural and normal.
>>2355462
I don’t expect anyone to agree with me, especially cause this is the thread for unpopular opinions, also we’re on LC together

No. 2355467

>>2355460
I don't understand how this is an unpopular position.
>>2355461
Children born of rape aren't their fathers, the mother going forward with the pregnancy is odd and likely the result of societal pressures but the children shouldn't bear this permanent mark on their being, especially daughters.

No. 2355469

>>2355467
My unpopular opinion is if you genuinely loved a child conceived from rape, you wouldn't bring them into the world for your selfish need of feeling something good came from such an evil act. It's no different to finding out your child would be born with a mental or physical illness. It's evil to put them in that position, and leave them to deal with the reality of their heritage.

No. 2355471

>>2355466
>No, anon. Nowhere in my post do I say rape and being forcefully impregnated is natural or normal. I said feeling love for your fetus, no matter how it may have been conceived, is what is natural and normal.
I mean i guess, but rape has been used as a tool to populate the earth, probably even more than consensual sex ever has, so if a woman can feel love for a fetus even if it was forced on her through violation, no wonder rape doesn't get taken seriously.

No. 2355473

>>2355467
They are in fact their fathers nona. You can moralfag "the father that stepped up is the real father" but the rapist is in fact the biological father.

No. 2355475

>>2355469
I think aborting a child who will not ever be capable of taking care of themselves, forming real relationships with other people, or even experiencing passion is much more reasonable and significanlty different to forcing a mother to abort a child who’s completely normal, just because the child was conceived via sexual assault

No. 2355479

>>2355475
you are minimising the psychological impact such a conception will have on a child. Why don't you go and read from the first hand accounts of children born from rape, and hear from themselves how negatively it's impacted their lives? Your issue is that you seem to think all the trauma that happens from rape will go away from the love the mother has toward their child. It doesn't. Like all trauma it takes root and shapes people. I seriously hope you are never a victim of it, because it ruins your life. And it absolutely ruins your child's before they've even taken their first breath. Just a really selfish and short-sighted decision to make.

No. 2355482

>>2355479
Why it is you believe that a child is definitely going to have a bad life just because of how they were conceived? I have experienced sexual assault before but I was not conceived through rape, so I don’t understand how the method of conception would influence your life.

No. 2355483

>>2355469
Yeah that I agree with, but even in the scenario that she does have the child, which could be unwillingly, choosing to seperate them as an individual from their father isn't a mortal sin that reflects poorly on her character. It's making the best of an absolutely horrific situation for the sake of her child.

No. 2355487

>>2355479
Ntayrt but is rape actually that bad? I've always thought it was the most horrible thing to happen to a person and i still do, but everyone else just seems to brush it off, so many women talk about it, rapists never get jail time and people even say after they served their time they have paid for their crimes, and no one seems to think it's that bad and at this point i'm starting to feel desensitized to it since it never seems to get the justice or even acknowledged as the horrible thing it is.

No. 2355488

>>2355355
Nta but identity politics are kind of stupid. I noticed minorities who are unlikeable get treated with more respect because people are scared of them, racists go after the nice minorities trying to do everything the right way because they’re easy targets and are seen as weak. Racists aren’t going to mess with some young nigga with baggy pants being loud mouthed and enjoys fighting and doesn’t care about going to prison, theyre going to mess with the weak nerdy one who gets all A’s in school.

No. 2355490

>>2355485
Who is even saying that.

No. 2355492

I think this is an unpopular opinion so I'm leaving it here but I think we desperately need a "cluster B malingerer" cow thread, and no I don't just mean munchie anachans. We need a place to compile all the retarded dangerhair bippies claiming autism.

No. 2355493

>>2355487
Being raped is extremely traumatizing, I’m not going to go into graphic detail but someone forcing themselves into your body changes your brain chemistry

No. 2355495

>>2355482
Again, go and read from some first hand accounts. Every day they have to look at their own face in the mirror and see the features of a rapist. You have to try to imagine how much they have to come to terms with. We owe it to our children to give them the very best we can offer with our circumstances, and that includes where AND who they come from.
>>2355483
this is true and I agree with you. Women who have no option but to have the child I am not including at all in this conversation, i.e women from second or third world countries. But if you do have access, and you chose not too, well I think that's ultimately an evil act done to cope with the pain of what has happened to you.
>>2355487
yes, it is the most dehumanising act that can be done to you and like any form of torture, it will change who you are goiong forward. Our society doesn't take it seriously because unless you've gone through it, which only women can, you simply can't understand how it affects you. I really wish it upon none of you, ever.

No. 2355497

>>2355487
>it doesn't get punished as badly as it should, so maybe it's not that bad of a crime
What kind of retard logic is this.

No. 2355499

I don’t understand why only women get daddy issues. When men are abused as children or neglected by their mothers, it doesn’t make them wanna fuck older women more when they grow up.

No. 2355501

>>2355499
What about fags?

No. 2355503

>>2355473
I meant the children aren't responsible for what their fathers did.

No. 2355504

>>2355483
It doesn't reflect poorly on her character because of her child, it relfects poorly on her character because of herself. If you accept and develop affection for something that was forced on you, you have low self worth, lack of boundaries and no self respect.

No. 2355506

>>2355504
What if that child is a female?

No. 2355507

>>2355499
>it doesn’t make them wanna fuck older women more when they grow up.
It does. I'd go so far and say the whole daddy issues thing is classic moid projection, because the sexual part applies way more to moids.

No. 2355513

>>2355495
>They might have their dads nose or eyes
ntayrt but you think that’s the worst thing that can happen to them kek?

No. 2355516

>>2355336
You're actually not entirely wrong, because obesity is partly hereditary. Basically it starts with one single fat/obese person having kids, it then negatively impacts their kids and grandkids health for several generations - including if the kids are living healthier lifestyles. We know this from studies on remote groups/ of people where only the rich family was able to eat in excess, followed by famine for generations. The fat people's descendants had worse health for generations simply because one single generation got too fat.

However you could be having some other medical issue that makes your fat burning abnormally slow or that certain foods turn into fat faster than they should for you, it's not certain it's your "default state" to be in.

No. 2355517

>>2355513
you clearly don't understand the gravity of having a rapist father who conceived you. sad that you have so little heart, I hope you're young and it's just your immaturity speaking.

No. 2355520

>>2355506
Doesn't matter

>>2355497
That's not what i meant. I think rape is the most horrible thing to do to someone but i've never been raped myself and nobody bats an eye an it, if you try to speak against it people shut you down with a variety of different responses so at this point i don't know what to believe.

No. 2355522

>>2355485
Blowjob-chan just can't stop sperging about this in every single thread, holy shit

No. 2355531

>>2355504
I don’t think feeling love for a child that was conceived through rape means you have low self worth at all, I think it means you're just a normal human being. We’re all evolved to feel a desire to reproduce, and often when you find out you're already pregnant, even if you had no original desire or intent to have a child, many just keep it because even just seeing a positive pregnancy test can be enough to usher emotion for your child.

No. 2355532

This why women are never gonna be free kek women fall in love with a child forced upon them, but it's okay because "body my choice" to be disrespected.

No. 2355539

Something about having male children makes women’s brains that makes them love them more than their daughters. My brother is 40, dates high school girls, tried to kill his own son but my mom still loves him so much.

No. 2355540

>>2355531
And samefag but before someone gets angry, no, I am not saying that means I think rape is normal. I’m saying I believe it is normal human behavior to feel affection and attracted to your child, no matter how it may have been conceived.

No. 2355543

>>2355539
Nah your mom is just a retard.

No. 2355545

>>2355539
That thing is called microchimerism.

No. 2355551

>>2355540
so women who chose to abort their children are abnormal?
>and attracted to your child
now I'm sure you're esl kek

No. 2355553

>>2355531
>>2355540
But when i call you a handmaiden you get mad. So it doesn't matter that women were raped, just the child is conceived. Even if women are violated they will fall in love with the fetus and deform their bodies and rip their vaginas open to raise a child because they semen is that strong. If it's natural for women to develop feelings for fetus conceived through their own rape, then rape is also natural. That's why rape never gets punished and people look at you crazy when you say they deserve the death penalty, rapists always have a hoard of defenders and people hate rape victims that speak against their rapists so much.

No. 2355554

>>2355539
>dates high school girls at 40
That's actually illegal and disgusting. what the fuck

No. 2355555

People who type in all lowercase are annoying.

No. 2355556

>>2355553
Nta rape is bad but it is natural but humans are an evolved so we shouldn’t be out here killing and raping each other.

No. 2355557

>>2355551
Nope, I am American. I’m saying that it’s not strange to feel attracted to the child you’ve conceived, no matter how the conception process went down.
>>2355553
>But when I call you a handmaiden you get mad
Are you referring to another conversation you’ve had on here before anon? Because I don’t even remember that term coming up during this discussion, we’ve stayed pretty focused on the topic at hand

No. 2355560

>>2355539
i'm south asian, it's simple. boymom-ism and the resulting emotional incest that develops is because women live vicariously through their sons and see them as extensions of themselves, because they hate women and see men as better. that and their husbands don't give them enough affection or do anything so they turn to seeing the son like a romantic partner.

No. 2355562

Repdroduction and motherhood are inherently anti-feminist so the fact that if women are raped and they are still able to fall in love with the product of their violation just seals the deal that we will never really be free.

No. 2355563

>>2355557
>>2355461

also
>I’m saying that it’s not strange to feel attracted to the child you’ve conceived, no matter how the conception process went down.
>no matter how the conception process went down
this is why you are a rape apologist. "the process of conception doesn't matter if they love their child". My God I hope you don't have daughters. also nice avoidance of my question - so are women who abort abnormal?

No. 2355564

>>2355562
If people don’t reproduce there would be no feminism or sexism because humans wouldn’t exist

No. 2355565

>>2355562
>Reproduction is antifeminist
So are people supposed to just stop existing

No. 2355566

>>2355278
>white women voting against the unchecked immigration threat from thirdie shitholes means they voted against their own interests and are anti-woman
are you genuinely retarded or just pretending to be

No. 2355567

>>2355562
Stop derailing threads with your dick sucking talk and blackpill sperging please, nobody likes you.

No. 2355568

>>2355485
go back to your containment board please

No. 2355569

>>2355564
Correct, every human alive today exists at the expense of a woman. There is no way to sell this as 'feminist'.

No. 2355570

>>2355569
You should kill yourself then. Being alive is anti feminist.

No. 2355571

>>2355556
So children out of rape shouldn't be born.
>>2355557
If women are able to love being forcefully inseminated they are able to enjoy rape

No. 2355572

>>2355566
You voted to take all of women’s rights away due to fear mongering of being raped by illegal immigrants when we all know women are often raped by someone you know.

No. 2355573

>>2355539
>Something about having male children makes women’s brains that makes them love them more than their daughters.
Because they are straight women who want the approval of males, and for the first time in their lives they have a man who loves then unconditionally and who will never leave them. It's not that they're sexually attracted to them, but that desperate approval of men (these women always have a past of males treating them like shit) but that they now have a man who loves them for "who they really are" without wanting to fuck them. So they're emotionally using their sons as a replacement for having a loving boyfriend/husband

No. 2355575

>>2355563
It’s not actually being a rape apologist at all to understand that mothers are capable of loving our children despite whatever circumstances they were conceived under. Also lurk moar dummy, We’ve already discussed that you can choose to abort your child if thats what you want to do, but it’s also not unnatural in any way to want to keep your child after finding out you’re pregnant.

No. 2355576

>>2355570
wrong, not actively killing men is anti feminist

No. 2355578

>>2355545
microchimerism also occurs with proto-female sperm

No. 2355579

>>2355571
They shouldn’t be born but biology doesn’t really care how women get pregnant, as long as it happens. Therefore it would make sense that the woman would bond with her child even if its a product of rape, so that the child can make it to adulthood and populate the earth.

No. 2355580

>>2355576
You being alive is a result of centuries of oppression. Why don’t you kill yourself to make a feminist stance and take some men with you?(bait)

No. 2355581

>>2355575
you are a rape apologist because you do not see the means or motive behind a pregnancy as relevant. sorry but your words align you on that side

No. 2355582

>>2355571
Anon why do you feel the urge to make it about “enjoying” the act of rape, when thats not what we’re talking about at all? Still feeling love for your child after finding out you’re pregnant does not mean that you loved being raped. Where are you getting this idea?

No. 2355583

>>2355580
because as I just said, killing men is a feminist act. killing women is not. understand?

No. 2355584

>>2355565
Having a man's child makes you a masochistic cuckold, there's no two ways about it. You're literally risking your health, permanently disfiguring your body, giving the gift of genetic immortality to a scrote who very likely doesn't deserve it. Unsurprisingly a large amount of women are masochistic cucks due to biology, evolution, and thousands of years of men killing off non-submissive women, but that doesn't make it good or right.

>>2355539
Women love their sons because male offspring are slightly less likely to rape and murder her than her husband or random men, and all women have an innate and understandable fear of being raped and murdered.
Having sons is the only way women were assured any kind of unconditional love or protection because they know scrotes can run off and abandon their families at any moment. It's why women from poor socioeconomic backgrounds, black women who don't have a partner, Muslim women etc spoil their sons and make so much of them. Sadly they don't realize even male offspring will usually abandon their mothers and smeglets can easily rape their mothers too if they wish a la Chris Chan.

No. 2355585

>>2355567
>>2355565
>>2355564
Like >>2355569 said people are alive today at women's expense. Men hate women by default and the only way to reproduce is to pair up with one. Humanity is inherently misogynistic. Unless men and women are biogically altered, feminism is pointless.

No. 2355586

>>2355581
>because you do not see the means or motive behind a pregnancy as relevant
What exactly do you mean “means or motive behind a pregnancy as relevant”? As in, you think the rapist committed the crime with the purposeful intention of impregnating his victim?

No. 2355587

>>2355583
Ok, then by your logic aborting babies who are famale and a product of rape is also anti feminist.

No. 2355589

>>2355581
you view all heterosexual sex as rape anyways, so tell me how having any child would be different in your retarded blackpill worldview?

No. 2355590

>>2355587
uh, who do you think I am? I'm >>2355576

No. 2355591

Ignore the baiting scrote who keeps trying to tell radfems to kill themselves and is immensely butthurt at women not wanting to be broodmares.

No. 2355592

>>2355583
Ntayrt but if we killed all the men then we wouldn’t have anymore women either, because we wouldn’t be able to reproduce any more daughters

No. 2355594

>>2355589
>you view all heterosexual sex as rape anyways
what are you talking about? you're insane lol
>>2355592
nah, we've been able to reproduce mice from 2 mothers and no dad. It will only be a matter of time until we're able to with humans as well. Then, finally, nature will heal.

No. 2355595

>>2355592
I guess the only thing us feminists can do at this point is go into malls with bombs strapped on us and kill everyone. Life is anti feminist.

No. 2355598

>>2355589
Heterosexual sex is almost as bad as rape and it's something women condition themselves into enjoying because its the only bargaining tool most women have against moid chimpouts.

If sex is meant to be pleasurable for women then how come 3/4 of women can't cum from PIV and the vagina has less sensitivity because childbirth is so painful to women?

Men view sex as an act of violence and conquering towards women. It's why they'll rape each other in the ass and call other men their 'bitch', to be fucked is seen as an innately degrading and humiliating thing to men, no matter how empowering and pleasurable libfems try to frame it as. There is no man who will make you cum as good as a vibrator, you don't need dick to live.(blackpill outside of containment)

No. 2355600

>>2355595
still not gonna birth your spawn, scrote. cry harder.(scrotefoiling)

No. 2355602

>>2355595
We can start by being blunt about pregnancy being a massive L biologically speaking.

No. 2355603

>>2355598
that's not your decision to make though. women overwhelmingly choose to be in relationships because they want to. not as a bargaining tool, but because they want to be with a man. you sound deranged

No. 2355604

>>2355595
Do you have any other solution to make men not hate women?

No. 2355605

>>2355600
I’m being sarcastic because what I’m saying sounds just as stupid as what you’re saying

No. 2355606

>>2355572
White women are raped most by white men Black women by black men Latina by Latino men etc etc. It’s normally someone you know in your community who looks like you. For every 1 illegal immigrant raping a woman story you read there are like 50 legal male citizens of every demographic raping American women and children. And again at least if an illegal immigrant rapes and murders you you are guaranteed justice because Americans hate illegal immigrants more than school shooters kek. There will be a law with your name on it if an illegal raped and killed you and hed be either deported or jailed for life. A US male citizen rapes and kills you and you are being called a whore who asked for it forever. All I’m saying. You basically voted for white men to point the fingers and hide their tails.

No. 2355607

>>2355603
Doesn't change the fact that women are at a disadvantage and men see it as a degrading tool

No. 2355610

>>2355605
Then what should we do to liberate women?

No. 2355611

>>2355604
You can’t make men not hate women though because there is no benefit for them to do that. Men get a lot of perks from being the way they are.

No. 2355615

>>2355610
Realize that not all women want to be liberated and leave them where they are at. Harriet Tubman only took people that weren’t afraid to sacrifice with her to freedom. You gotta leave some people behind to get to freedom.

No. 2355616

>>2355487
Please tell me you are underaged or actually retarded. Yes, rape is the most horrific thing that can happen to another person. It's something that sticks with you forever, in the back of your mind. It changes how you view the world and other people. Rape should be treated with immediate death penalty or public lynching. It's that bad. And rape babies should be immediately aborted.

No. 2355620

>>2355584
>Women love their sons because male offspring are slightly less likely to rape and murder her than her husband or random men, and all women have an innate and understandable fear of being raped and murdered.

I don’t think that’s it. Most womens main goal in life is to find a man who will love them unconditionally and then they have a son and he’s the first man who does. Even if he grows up to be a piece of shit, she’s always going to remember him as that little male who needed mommy and thought she was beautiful no matter what.

No. 2355625

>>2355539
Please report your brother to the police wtf. If you're too pussy to do it just post his info on lolcow and one of us will.

No. 2355626

>>2355615
This right here. Some women are fine being stay at home wives,barefood and pregnant for their nigels. I don't respect any woman who loves being a mother and that is now her entire indentity. Or any woman who has like 6 kids and 'you cant understand the love until you have children' kind of person. In order to progress, we need to realize we can't save every woman. I'm sure there were tons of women standing in the way of women's suffrage when it first started happening. They dont deserve the same rights the women who fought so hard for have now.

No. 2355627

>>2355626
Idk how to feel about this because I personally love my mother. She did the best she could with the hand she was given. It's not like she grew up with the internet and had resources to learn about radical feminism. I can't judge ignorant women for making the choices expected of them. Not everyone is so lucky to discover radblr or ovarit.

No. 2355631

Humanity is inherently misogynistic. Women are smaller, weaker and slower than men so men can easily impregnate women and populate earth and the fastest way to do that is to rape women. Men are biologically wired to "hate" or moreso be aggressive towards women with purpose of raping her and getting her pregnant and getting resources from her whether it's emotional, sexual or any other kind of labour he will not pay her for.

No. 2355633

>>2355627
You can absolutely be a feminist or join/support women's rights without the internet though. what

No. 2355634

>>2355626
The thing is we are never going to progress. Humanity is dependent on women sacrificing their body and personhood to raise the population. If men didn't hate women motherhood wouldn't be so bad but humanity depends on women to pair up with their predators.

No. 2355635

>>2355633
First world hands typed this

No. 2355637

>>2355635
I live in America. It's not like women are living fantastic here either with our abortion rights being striped away. Look at all the women who died in texas that could have been saved with simple medical intervention

No. 2355639

>>2355626
I can only respect women like that if they grow up and realize it was bullshit and regret it. If they’re still old and still have the same views then they’re lost causes.

No. 2355641

>>2355633
I believe what she means is that women who grow up in a shelter environment aren't going to see the damage said environment caused them, because they can't easily stumbled upon feminist driven content or media that shows them a different perspective. This is easier to do with a global connective tool like the internet.

No. 2355643

>>2355634
I think more women need to adopt only girls or have only female fetuses. Women need to stop being so dependent on men. They should abort male fetuses and try not to have men so involved in their lives, or not make them a main staple of their world.

No. 2355646

>>2355636
No. My point is that you're just making assumptions that every woman has access to some local feminist group when that's objectively false, my country doesn't even have public libraries and you expect someone like my mom to have been able to accidentally stumble upon feminism in her youth

No. 2355647

>>2355646
I smell twitter on you

No. 2355648

>>2355635
What do you think feminists pre internet were doing. You don’t need to be a radical feminist or even know what a feminist is to see the world is treating you like shit and not enjoy it.

No. 2355652

>>2355648
when everyone around you treats something like normal, you also think it's normal. A lot of women just accept their lot in life because they are under the belief that's just how life is for a women. Do you understand?

No. 2355653

>>2355647
Defending my mom makes me a twittertard? Or is it being a thirdie? Kek explain

No. 2355655

>>2355652
Then those are just the weak/failure women. The smart women were like “hold up, I don’t like how I’m feeling and I wanna change it”.

No. 2355656

>>2355655
yes anon, everyone is a moron but you. you alone can save us. please stop wasting time on lolcow and free us all.

No. 2355660

>>2355648
A lot of you think you would be le based feminists when there would be no internet but that's just untrue. How can you pretend the internet didn't change the landscape of politics and help liberate women? That's like when people argue they wouldn't be racist when they grew up in the slavery era, or they wouldn't be a nazi in nazi germany. You are not immune to propaganda, peer pressure, and poor education

No. 2355661

>>2355656
No, not everyone’s a moron but me but the women who never thought about how bad their situations are and wanted to change it are.

No. 2355662

the most feminist thing you can do if you insist on having children is aborting males and raising girls only

No. 2355663

>>2355660
There were feminists pre internet though. If they could do it, your mom could’ve as well.

No. 2355665

>>2355661
of course they thought about it, but again, when you live and are only ever exposed to a society and environment that treats your suffering as NORMAL, you don't tend to question it. This doesn't just go for feminism, this goes for everything. This is why we look back in time and think 'wow how backwards it all was!' except at the time, it wasn't, it was normal. And we'll be looking back at 2025 in 30+ years thinking the same. It's stupid to judge women of the past, who didn't have access to the resources and support we do nowadays, to the modern woman. Hell even nowadays you get libfems who are actively hurting women under the guise of activism, so actually, pre or post internet, most women are satisfied with how the status quo is.

No. 2355668

>>2355633
The thing is that doesn't matter. Even those feminist women on ovarit or radblr truly do belive that there a few good men that exist and that the men they chose to keep in their lives are one of them. Even these feminists try to "play fair" and try to hold women and men equally accountable. I'm not saying you can't have a boyfriend or speak to men, you can have fun with them but you have to remember that they are still men and you can't trust them. Very very few women truly hate men and would throw them under the bus for women.

No. 2355669

>>2355665
If they didn’t question it then they’re stupid and we should be thankful for the intelligent ones who did

No. 2355670

>>2355669
you would definitely be in the former camp

No. 2355671

>>2355670
And of if I was apart of the other camp, I’d be a dumb ass too.

No. 2355672

>>2355671
you sure would, you lil retard you

No. 2355673

>>2355214
I wonder if the trees and water miss being worshipped

No. 2355675

>>2355669
I wouldnt Call them stupid more like fearful of change a lot of people fear change even if it benefits them. It’s easier to stick to the status quo sadly

No. 2355676

>>2355669
How many women in history did question and did voice their discontent only to be not included in history books because they were not rich or remarkable people whose narrative made a tangible difference? There's a coincidental reason why most feminist women in history came from rich families, husbands who enabled their pursuits, and otherwise had a position of influence. Ordinary women got buried under the systems of their time and now have modern people presuming what they thought because there is little record of it at all.

No. 2355677

>>2355673
They never stopped being worshipped

No. 2355679

>>2355606
it's more traumatic to be violated by foreign men though, they're not equivalent

No. 2355681

>>2355672
Also just because I’m saying those women from the past were stupid, doesn’t mean I’m judging them. Doctors used to believe in blood letting and the 5 humors and I think they were stupid but thankfully there were intelligent people who were able to help humanity progress by figuring it out it was bullshit. That’s how I see feminists from the past, they were the rare group of women who weren’t dumb and they made life better for the women of today so that we could even have the chance to go on the internet and learn.

No. 2355683

>>2355681
you in fact are judging them, because anyone who didn't act according to your modern view you deem as 'stupid'. >>2355676 makes a fantastic point. you have a very ignorant view of women's history.

No. 2355684

>>2355679
So it’s better to be raped by your father as opposed to a foreigners dad? Both are traumatic but one will stick with you worse be serious. your racism will be your own undoing.

No. 2355685

Peer pressure and propaganda is a thing but the majority of girls and women instinctvely prioritize men and the their own labour for those around them because biologically speaking it's beneficial to have these traits to raise offspring as disgusting as that may sound. I think you need to be born with a different brain to be able to hate men and you would be exception.

No. 2355689

>>2355676
Being in a bad situation like being forced to get married/have kids and being aware that it sucks, is not the same as being in that situation and having no idea it’s a problem. I consider the second group of people, the dumb ones.

No. 2355690

>>2355676
A lot of those women of history also had husbands and children because that was the only acceptable way for them to be in society, only for anons nowadays to completely disregard their achievements and call them broodmares while relishing in freedoms those women never got to enjoy.

No. 2355692

>>2355684
nta that's not equivalent either

No. 2355695

>>2355683
You can baby stupid women if you want to, babying them is how we are still in this fucked up situation now.

No. 2355701

>>2355695
no anon, acknowledging women in the past lived in a much different world and society is not 'babying' them, nor is it the reason modern women are still struggling. can you, just maybe, transfer even a shred of the blame you've placed on women onto men? since you're such an intelligent feminist after all.

No. 2355707

>>2355701
They lived in a much different world but they were still stupid. I’m black and i understand that black people in the past lived different lives but I still consider the group who had light fair skin only groups etc to be dumb asses even though that’s the environment they were raised in. There is nothing wrong with looking at my elders and acknowledging that they were stupid. I don’t need to look at my mom and say “aww she’s a mama and did the best she did”, no I consider her choice pathetic and stupid and I’m glad I didn’t end up like her.

No. 2355711

>>2355707
fair enough. Similarly, I can look at someone like yourself and be thankful I didn't end up like you.

No. 2355718

>>2355711
When men are going against the best interests of other men, men step in to call him a simp or make him feel like the biggest loser/whimp. Women should be like that to women who go against our interests, shame them and make them feel dumb so they can get back in line because shame is the best tool of control.

No. 2355721

>>2355718
and yet you're still here typing away, so sometimes women can be SO stupid they don't even register they should be ashamed, amiright?

No. 2355723

>>2355718
NTA but I don't get why people like to use men as examples as to how women should act. You hate men and yet you want us to take notes on behavior from them? Women should act more like men then? Seems contradictory.

No. 2355724

>>2355718
You have really bad takes for a woman.

No. 2355734

>>2355723
Their manipulation tactics have worked for centuries so they must be doing something right for other men

No. 2355736

>>2355734
women and men are not the same.

No. 2355741

>>2355736
That doesn’t change the fact that what they’re doing works and is keeping them in their positions of power

No. 2355743

>>2355707
I don't get how you guys expect to ever achieve female separatism on a global scale or even any significant progress in regards to women's rights when you're so unwilling to educate other women, actively disrespect them, and are content to leave them behind. You won't win any kind of global influence alone and the movement will never grow when it's just a fringe group that the average woman can't relate to

No. 2355744

>>2355741
you don't have the excuse of living in the past to be this stupid.

No. 2355749

>>2355743
You can’t teach someone who doesn’t want to learn. Plenty of women still voted for trump and they know he’s a rapist etc. Even if Kamala was the worse candidate ever they should’ve voted for her just because she’s a woman, plenty of men think trump is a bad candidate but because of their class consciousness, they voted for trump just so a woman couldn’t win. Some women are lost causes and they just have to be pushed to the side and ignored.

No. 2355760

>>2355743
>You won't win any kind of global influence alone and the movement will never grow when it's just a fringe group that the average woman can't relate to
That's what they want nonna. Otherwise they don't get to be special and not like other girls anymore.

No. 2355765

>>2355684
bitches like you will really hear
>i don't want to be raped by foreigners
and like a complete braindead npc robot go
>that's racism!!!
my self-preservation instincts are not my "undoing" and you're not sly. fuck off.

No. 2355781

People who have a problem with being a consumer as a hobby are just jealous because they’re poor

No. 2355785

Women won't ever achieve global dominance or female separatism or any kind of matriarchy, and it's not because of pickmes, handmaidens, tradthots, libfems, or even trannies. It's because women are actually the fairer and more moral sex. We are the arbiters of morality in society. Because we are more moral, we naturally purity spiral within our own communities and hold each other accountable to the point of exclusion. A woman with influence in society is subject to both ethical evaluation from other women and natural misogyny and hatred from men. Men let each other get away with literal rape and murder and never hold each other accountable, thus allowing males to continuously reach heights women would never be capable of.

No. 2355786

>>2355781
i have money and i still find it pathetic

No. 2355793

>>2355785
Yeah this is my main gripe with our sex, and it happens in very small scales too among normal women. I cannot stand the moralfagging for trannies, moids, fags, and "sex work". Imo, I don't think women are necessarily more moral but I do think women feel societal pressure more and are more likely to act as if they are being watched and observed, and I think they're more likely to believe bad no no thoughts = literal proof of immorality.

No. 2355797

>>2355781
Consoomerism is an addiction. Get a real hobby.

No. 2355802

>>2355785
I agree. I can only speak for myself but I never cared about power and subjugating people, even men when they are shit. All I want to do is get away from them and live my own life. "Matriarchy" wouldn't work for me because idgaf that hard.

No. 2355806

It’s hypocritical to tell your kids not to be in an age gap relationship, if youre in an age gap relationship. I’m 34 and my bf is 23 but his mom doesn’t like me because of that but her husband was my age and she was her son’s age when they got married. Seems a bit stupid to tell me I’m a predator when she was in the same situation.

No. 2355807

>>2355781
It's only a hobby if effort is being put into it, like sourcing antique medical equipment or constructing model planes. Buying mass produced funko pops isn't a hobby. It's pathetic.

No. 2355812

>>2355797
It takes skill to know what kind of clothes suit my body and how to point out high quality fabrics.

No. 2355814

>>2355806
Ugh, my mother was the same–not specifically about age gaps per se. A whole lotta "Do as I say not as I do," and then shocked pikachu at me when her lived examples of relationships came to fruition in my choices. I'd respect women like your mom more if they could be transparent about the regrets in their relationships (because clearly she's warning you based on some kind of fear) rather than being assholes because it's convenient to protect their own lifestyles out of fear that they would need to make the same changes they demand out of you.

No. 2355827

>>2355812
no clothes suit fat people

No. 2355848

>>2355827
rattle rattle

No. 2355855

>>2355648
People are so dumb and literally think that women didn't like being treated like shit by their husbands and couldnt even open a bank account, or own property. There are so many women pre internet who fought for our rights that didnt need social media or forums to tell them to do so. Age is not an excuse

No. 2355858

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>>2355807
Shopping is a hobby

No. 2355874

>>2355807
This isn't true lol. A lot of hobbies are lazy and require no effort, watching movies, sports, tv shows etc, or really consuming any kind of media being the major one that comes to mind.

No. 2355878

>>2355874
Those are barely hobbies.

No. 2355880

The sims is the only game worth playing

No. 2355885

>>2355626
My mom had a bunch of kids and was a stay at home mother and she's the happiest person I know. She spends all day volunteering, hanging out with her friends, and doing hobbies. This idea that we all have to do what radfems say to be the ideal feminist is stupid to me. You're all insufferable and what you want sounds miserable to me.

No. 2355889

>>2355885
Nta but dogs are happy in their little world getting treats and head pats but they’re not free

No. 2355890

>>2355858
>>2355874
That doesn't mean they're good kek. If the only thing you look forward to in life is consuming you are a lower lifeform.

No. 2355892

>>2355881
Many "radfems" online are really just autists who can't reconcile with the fact that it's natural to age and have your body change, and I genuinely think this is most of the revile for pregnancy and motherhood comes from from these terminally online radfem autists. Motherhood is something that is natural to women, of course we shouldn't force it upon women, but it is natural. No real feminist will hate all mothers and motherhood, the problem lies within society forcing women to be mothers and refusing to make society a welcoming place for mothers. It's so autistic.

No. 2355893

>>2355889
You're not any freer though. You delude yourself to think you are, but you still have to wake up early to go to a job you hate to barely get by, so how exactly are you free?

No. 2355895

>>2355890
Okay? I never said they are good hobbies I just said they are still hobbies. Gatekeeping what constitutes as a hobby is so weird

No. 2355899

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>>2355895
>Gatekeeping what constitutes as a hobby is so weird
The world and society at large is dying because people are addicted to instant gratification and I will scrutinize it in the unpopular opinions thread

No. 2355900

>>2355893
That’s more free then having to worry about being left broke if my scrote finds a hotter girl or dies. Your mom is pretty much like a dog who has to depend on someone to survive.

No. 2355903

>>2355736
>>2355724
>>2355723
But that's exactly why women won't win. Women want to hold men and women "equally accountable" but moids just support men because they're men and the bigger reason is that they want women to have it worse than them. Women are at most are just indifferent and just don't want to be at a disadvantage as a class, meanwhile men not only want to be the ones on top, they want women to be below them and at the very bottom. It's not enough to give better things women, you actually have to hate men and wish they have it worse than you do.

No. 2355905

>>2355900
NTA but is working for a man any better than being married to one, in both cases you are dependent on men for your finances unless you operate a business exclusively by and for women?

No. 2355907

I hope trump nukes my country.

No. 2355908

>>2355905
There are such things as HR departments and now there is training for equality in most jobs. A husband isn't required by law to not be a shit husband who hates his wife and children and leaves her with all the exhaustive child rearing and home management tasks kek.

No. 2355911

>>2355905
My boss can’t take away my house and standard of living. If I get fired I’d just go work somewhere else or use my savings

No. 2355920

>>2354212
lmao what

No. 2355926

>>2355905
Bitch do you even work?

No. 2355929

>>2355885
>>2355892
Motherhood as it currently stands is actively anti-feminist. It is a fact that pregnancy and giving birth is a biological net negative to a woman's body, it is not magical or beautiful. I think motherhood can be neutral, but men look down on and treat mothers as slaves and women in general don't work on their best interest. Women in general don't get taken seriously in medicine, and they have to work twice as hard than their men in their perspective careers, so to put yourself in such a physicaly vulnerable state, stagnating your career on purpose to contribute offspring for a society that doesn't respect you and often deems you as inferior is indeed anti feminist.

No. 2355932

>>2355905
There is a whole different level of intimacy and labor that you do to a husband versus a boss kek What are u even talking about

No. 2355935

>>2355806
That is just misogyny anon. I genuinely doubt she would even care if her son was your current age and yours was 23.

No. 2355936

>>2355929
I am in medicine and what you're saying is bullshit lol.

No. 2355937

>>2355929
To your peabrained autistic, faux feminist mind. How many women's shelters have you volunteered at or donated to? I think I know the answer kek.

No. 2355942

>>2355785
I don't think women are more moral. The simple answer is motherhood. A woman will not go against her literal creation that she sacrificed her body and time for.

No. 2355945

>>2355926
she’s trying out her arguments because her parents are going to sit her down and tell her she needs to get a job again

No. 2355946

>>2355932
In both scenarios you are essentially a slave to men. And in some cases the labor that you contribute to your male boss is more than or equal to the amount of labor the average housewife might contribute. And don't pretend that working is without it's own emotional labor, people constantly have breakdowns from work-related stress. In neither scenario is a woman truly free

No. 2355947

>>2355781
Sounds like you are salty that people are criticizing your poor spending habits.

No. 2355950

>>2355946
Your boss could be a woman too

No. 2355953

>>2355946
In the working woman scenario she'll have money to move into a new place whereas the mother is trapped.

No. 2355964

>>2355950
This is why I think focusing on men so much is bullshit. Having a female boss isn't better. Sometimes it's worse because they're bitchier and get on your case for no reason.

No. 2355970

>>2354948
I hate to be the one to tell you this nona, but TV isn't real life. The setting of a soul-sucking, pencil-pushing office space was chosen specifically because it contrasts with the wacky comedic writing. These jobs are boring, monotonous, bureaucratic, clique-y, and horrible for your health. It fucks up your eyes, your back, your wrists, deprives you of vitamin D, and it makes you get fat. My current job is physical labor, and I'd pick that over working in data entry any day.

No. 2355972

>>2355946
>In neither scenario is a woman truly free
No one is free under any society kek Maintaining a society requires work from everyone. Even then I think the comparison is silly. You still have more financially freedom and safety working under a man than depending solely on your husband.

No. 2355973

>>2355936
Many have to drag their husbands to the doctor's office to be taken seriously, their pains are often dismissed and even the women that choose contine with a pregnancy die because of complications because a woman's life is not considered very valuable.

>>2355937
I have donated to 3 different shelters. Now, how does that affect anything i said? Is that all you have to say? What about my post is untrue?

No. 2355975

>>2355972
I don't feel like a slave having a husband though. I love him.

No. 2355979

>>2355964
Anecdotally, the worst boss I've ever had was a moid. Of all the female bosses I've had, there was only one I disliked because she was a lazy hamplanet who sat in her office scrolling through Pinterest all day instead of enforcing the rules. I definitely prefer female bosses, especially female bosses who are moms, because I find that there's transferable skills between parenting and management.

No. 2355987

>>2355946
If i have an education and skills, i can leave my current job and find another one, work as a freelancer or even be self employed because i have some sort of skill and save my own personal money. I'm dependant on my husband and i divorce him, what can you do other than marry another man? Cleaning houses?

No. 2355992

>>2355987
You can do a lot of things. Also, why are you assuming a woman wouldn't have an education or work? Most married women do.

No. 2355993

>>2355972
Work is needed in society just like how reproduction and child rearing is needed in society, neither is more valuable or moral than the other.

No. 2355994

>>2355987
She could probably do only fans or strip if she’s cute

No. 2355996

>>2355946
Being a wage cuck is better than sucking dick and being a prostitute for a moid

No. 2355999

>>2355996
some of us are heterosexual and enjoy sex

No. 2356005

>>2355975
I never said anything slavery tho? Why do you think so many older housewives advice younger women to no be financially depended on their husbands and always have their own money aside? I'm sorry but this discourse is so stupid.
>>2355993
>just like how reproduction and child rearing is needed
Neither of those things require you to take care of another man you are not related to.

No. 2356008

>>2355999
Sexuality truly isn't a choice. Do men even give pleasure to women in bed?

No. 2356009

>>2355994
You'll make more money flipping burgers.

No. 2356011

>>2356008
Well I can't speak for other women, but in my experience, big yes.

No. 2356012

>>2355993
Nta but what what is the correlation here? Realistically speaking, you shouldn't trust a man with your money. As far as your off topic post, yes both are important yet one remains as unpaid labour.

No. 2356015

>>2355999
I'm heterosexual and I'd rather be a wage cuck kek

No. 2356016

>>2355999
So you like being a prostitute? Kek

No. 2356017

>>2356015
I do both because I love dick and money

No. 2356019

>>2356017
Which one do you love more? Would you be willing to sacrifice financial independence for dick?

No. 2356024

I think Dworkin was right when she said something to the effect of romance being grooming.

No. 2356027

>>2356019
This question is stupid because I don't have to sacrifice financials for a man. I already have both. Obviously if I didn't have to work for money I wouldn't. It's a stepping stone until you save enough base capital to pursue greater ROI. If this is a question about taking a break to have kids though, I would be willing to do that because I want a family.

No. 2356036

>>2355964
I would choose a woman over a moid any time. I don't want to interact with scrotes

No. 2356038

I wish female only universities were more mainstream

No. 2356042

>>2356027
Your reply to that >>2355996 statement was more stupid which is why I asked.

No. 2356046

>>2356042
No it isn't. You're framing it as if women have to either have a job or a man and that isn't the case.

No. 2356069

>>2355336
hard agree and i'm tired of retards sperging about calories in and calories out and to just move more. being a woman already, our bodies will do everything it can possibly do to hang onto fat to protect ourselves; being female is an inherently traumatizing experience, and so many women i've known in my life who experienced rape, abuse, or some other type of trauma (usually in the hands of moids) experience obesity later on or during the traumatic events. the world doesn't fucking care about keeping women safe, so this is going to be a forever issue i fear. couple that with living in countries where everything is processed to high heavens, where even medicine and ketchup has added sugar into it, and you've got an incredibly difficult situation. and yes, hereditary and family history comes into direct play into this. sometimes i wonder, will i ever be a size 2-4 dress again like i used to as a teenager? then i realize, no, too much has happened to me, and my genes are rewired to protect itself. i am no longer angry at my body because of this.

No. 2356092

>>2356069
>experience obesity…during the traumatic events
what??

No. 2356095

>>2355946
this is so retarded, there's an abundance of careers in case a workplace is abusive, there's no abundance of men who'll rush to take care of some divorcee mother in case a moid is abusive. If you're a wage cuck you bargain your value for that wage with your labour output.
If you're a housewife you bargain your value for the portion of the moid's wage, with having few prior partners, staying reasonably attractive, staying young, remaining fertile and producing children, and IN ADDITION your labour as output in the form of homecare and childcare. Now add both of those careers up and deduce what might be more exhausting for women.

Also, deduce measurements of patriarchal "female value" will depreciate quicker in the eyes of society? Labor has an average retirement age of 60-70, although it's even more flexible than that considering old people take up part-time jobs to pass the time. But according to patriarchal society where every single moid is our potential boss, instead of just one overarching moid, Youth retires at around 30. Beauty follows. Then safe childbirth retires at 35 and is soon considered to be geriatric, increasing the risks to mother. Labour retires until your children are old enough and responsible enough to take care of you, if they still like you, but not a moment before then. You do not get to collect your severance paycheck and opt-out of taking care of that household unless you divorce your husband. But divorce is a social taboo because of women like you, especially if they have children or grandchildren that rely on you. Whereas traditional retirement is not, even if you leave your coworkers high and dry.

Being a housewife to a moid in place of being wagecuck would make sense if all that moids expected of you was labour and nothing else, not looks, not age, not kindness or love, and not something volatile like fertility or male children. Or if there were stricter guardrails in place for moids who abuse their wives, but there aren't, societies very lenient with abusive men. It's not like every woman in the domestic violence shelter's spouse is rotting in prison.

All in all, your utopia would either work out to be women becoming career housewives, or women being powerless, worrisome creatures constantly putting in more value than just labour to the moids life.
Either there's always additional value we export in partnerships than just the labor of cleaning or cooking. We chose to work in corporate and girlboss, and be wage cucks because those bosses ask less of us, and the only requirement is being above a minimum intelligence and being able-bodied. Those are easy fulfilments. Whereas beauty, youth, fertility, are volatile, and depreciating. And finding several replacement bosses could earn you the title of "whore."

No. 2356098

>>2356046
You reply did not make sense when the anon you replied to explained simply that being financially depended on their male partner is not the same as working for a man you have no personal relations with and having your own damn money. Grow a brain.

No. 2356101

>>2356092
sorry i meant within the several years time frame of an event happening, so something traumatic happens -→ couple of years after the fact, while other types of abuse keeps happening, the victim gains a significant amount of weight. i remember someone telling me that weight gain in this situation happens because the body wants to protect the organs from the blows of abuse, and it was so sobering to learn.

No. 2356103

>>2356101
well you should forget it, because they just made it up

No. 2356104

>>2355336
>>2356069
I don't want to say you guys are wrong but have you ever tried one of those fancy scales that measure your body fat percentage? I used to think I wasn't losing weight while dieting and calorie counting until I used one of those scales and saw that my body fat percentage was gradually decreasing while increasing muscle slightly and retaining so much water my weight never moved. Weight is a bad indicator of body fat loss generally speaking if you're active and eating carbs (carbs and working out both make you retain more water)

No. 2356124

>>2356104
i mean, i'm not saying that its absolutely impossible to lose weight, because i've done it before, both with and without any effort put in, so it can be done. if women:
>drink a lot of water every day
>cut out most or all processed food and junk with whole foods instead
>swap out white simple carbs with complex carbs
>swap out processed fats with real fats
>eat an adequate healthy proteins
>weight lifting and cardio
>be mindful of stress, vitamin deficiencies, thyroid issues, etc and get to the root of those issues
then weight loss should occur. but some women can never look a certain way, even when all of her bases are covered. not every woman is going to look like some willowy moss type or even 'slim curvy' being pushed by social media. best thing to push for instead is healthy moderate eating habits and a focus on being strong at the gym. everything else is just fluff, i think.

No. 2356126

I think i like millenial attitude less than boomers… boomers are kind of selfish and retarded but they're also a bit genuine and willing to call stuff out. Millenials have this bad habit of being positive and careful about everything, if someone guy has ugly pants a boomer might go "damn that guys got ugly pants" but the millenial will have the need to go "wow… that guy's style is so unique" but it extends to EVERYTHING. Also the reddit level self-rightousness and intolerance for everyone who doesn't toe their line. Plus there is maybe a lack of genuineness, like the over the top… friendliness or reactions? When you see a dog, it feels disingenuous to go "oh MY GOD!!!!" And just fucking lose it over something being slightly cute. I am 1997 so I am probably also a millenial but I really hated the attitude even when it was the norm. I guess zoomers and boomers can be a little meaner but it's like.. I prefer that honestly to the fake niceness

No. 2356132

>>2356126
as a millennial i agree with this. i get so much shit from my age group when i call it out as i see it, and i especially don't like the over the top ~uniqueness~ angle that we've become famous for. it's understandable as a teen, but after a while, it's time to calm down.

No. 2356143

>>2355946
>the labor that you contribute to your male boss is more than or equal to the amount of labor the average housewife might contribute
In many cases it is, but all the surplus of free time you get as a housewife isn't necessarily good news, housewives go insane from boredom, isolation and end up acting like rats in a lab from all the repetitive, empty unnecessary upkeep. Being a wageslave leaves you with your salary, your accomplishments (however small they might be), free of emotional and professional entanglment (though HR departments try to make this a reality). If you have a job you're not just "the wife of", "the gf of", "the mother of" you exist as an independent being and this is actually good for women, a group of people overwhelmingly socialised to have little sense of self. Women often benefit from not being wholly tied to a man, if that man is inadequate or teetering on abusive, the money, socializing and sense of pride they get from a job helps with leaving him. The fact that this is a regular debate on here is really funny because very, very few women are housewives nowadays. You're fantasizing about something that is likely out of reach for you, stop daydreaming about being in the 50s and start valuing your autonomy. You don't know how good it is to have one until it's stripped away from you.
>>2355545
This fake ass wannabe evopsych take that gets peddled as advanced feminist analysis on here will always be hilarious. This sounds like a stupid ancient belief, i've never seen actual proof that microchimerism causes women to become boymoms. If only you'd listen to normie women, they openly talk about how they see men as fully human and project their wishes and dreams on them (typical of female socialisation, living through others). This is displaced onto sons because they're male, more malleable and were once part of boymoms' bodies, making them the perfect puppet/husband substitute. There's a reason why boymoms are most often misogynistic, it's not because they were tainted by male DNA or whatever it is you believe

No. 2356148

>>2355355
Brown people are the biggest white worshippers so it isn’t a surprise you throw on a cape for them meanwhile they want the women that look like you to face the worst of male aggression as long as it’s not them being met with it. Most white women think you deserve the treatment from your males and think you are just as backwards as they are for even following whatever religion that isn’t Christianity/Catholicism . Just look at the Britbong and news stories that fuck with you thread to see their true feelings towards brown women. My ancestors are from America I don’t move to their countries they forced me here and destroyed my homeland.

No. 2356160

>>2356143
>This fake ass wannabe evopsych take that gets peddled as advanced feminist analysis on here will always be hilarious. This sounds like a stupid ancient belief, i've never seen actual proof that microchimerism causes women to become boymoms. If only you'd listen to normie women, they openly talk about how they see men as fully human and project their wishes and dreams on them (typical of female socialisation, living through others). This is displaced onto sons because they're male, more malleable and were once part of boymoms' bodies, making them the perfect puppet/husband substitute. There's a reason why boymoms are most often misogynistic, it's not because they were tainted by male DNA or whatever it is you believe
It's not socialization, women are biogically programmed like that. You would think after all the evidence of how men talk about and treat women they would wake up, but they rather keep pandering to moids.

No. 2356163

veganism is misogynistic

No. 2356165

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>>2356148
Western women feel that way because Muslim women will do shit like this and create more Muslim scrotes to harass us. Being suspicious of women who want anyone who doesn't follow their religion to get raped and murdered is normal. You want us to suffer, so why should we play nice to you?

No. 2356166

>>2356163
Explain yourself. I'm against veganism btw, it's an unhealthy and extreme diet.

No. 2356170

>>2356163
My vaginal microbiome begs to differ

No. 2356172

>>2356148
>Most white women think you deserve the treatment from your males and think you are just as backwards as they are for even following whatever religion that isn’t Christianity/Catholicism
NTA but KEK this is amazing projection, those "brown" women defended their gang rapist sons/husbands and even went as far as helping them evade justice in some cases. I've seen brown women blame those teenagers for what happened to them already. There are tons of brown women who really think of all women (including from their own ethnicity) as evil disposable whores for not following their set of religious rules, basically parrotting their men, just as there are white women who think we are evil/are indifferent to our plight and go on to defend their white rapists. What you describe is not unique to white women and you're just picking loyalty to your ethnic group over female consciousness. Gang rapes, harrassment, street violence is now more rampant than ever thanks to hyperactive foreign men (in addition to native men), a bunch of white women being retarded really is no threat in comparison. But they make a good scapegoat for Trump i guess. By the way it's not even racist to point out how backwards women are in backwards cultures or countries, especially since women are central to transmitting values and beliefs to their children.

No. 2356181

>>2356178
you're not white, we haven't done anything to you, and you can leave the west and go back to your shitty misogynist culture if you miss it so much

No. 2356185

wishing terrible things on other women is not a race specific trait. whether it’s a boy mom or intrasexual competition or a pick me trying to advertise herself to men by showing her willingness to throw other women under the bus. tori amos spoke at length about how it’s a girls female relatives that will typically perform a FGM. karla homolka was as white as they come and she killed her own baby sister helping her rapist moid and then went on to help him with how many other girls? was it three or four? you guys just want an excuse to be racist. i genuinely think you guys are ban evading by trying to pretend this conversation is about something else. like the GIOYC schizos indirecting each other or men posing as women posting creepy sexual shit under the guise of like “this is so crazy” or “has anyone else experienced this” to secretly get off.

No. 2356190

>>2356186
I don't have to cope. I don't live in an Islamic shithole. Keep wishing suffering on white women, you're totally not bitter.

No. 2356191

>>2356126
I'm a zoomer and I agree. Any generation that isn't zoomer or millennial feels more human and like actual people. Zoomers and millennials have this tendency to fake an identity to be "cool" and fit it, something you go through as a teen, except they keep going through it throughout their lives and never truly be themselves. I guess it's the interest or something messing with their brains. I only had internet when I was a bit too old to be that affected by it, and I eventually got over it and I'm not wowed by it anymore and find it boring and prefer real life activities and actual socializing and being honest, telling it as it is, but people find it weird in an endearing way and think I'm so ~unique~ for just being authentically myself. Kinda sad.
On another note, boomers and gen x had the best taste in media, fiction, writing, music, singing, fashion to an extent, hygiene, diet and many other things. They just had better standards then millennials and zoomers who either try to play it safe or fit in with a trend, so we end up with lots of generic shit and stagnant culture. Schizo rant over.

No. 2356196

>>2356148
Based white women

No. 2356198

>>2356185
Nona, I fear that you're being much too logical in the midst of shit flinging. It's probably a ramp up in crazy since Trump is getting inaugerated (even for people who aren't Americans kek) and people are stressing right.

No. 2356200

>>2356178
They didn't leave your ass with anything, it's all the doing of your own retarded culture's hands. White people actually almost fixed and built the middle east when they tried to colonize it. Wish they never left. They literally gave you governments and democracy and taught you how to build houses and streets and schools and have jobs. Without their teachings, you'd all be living in tents in the desert. Stop using technology and they internet if you hate white people so much, since they also created all of it.

No. 2356202

>>2356198
the way they argue around the logical posts is so bot like

No. 2356204

>>2356202
Where is the logical post in question?

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No. 2356210

>>2356163
I would think using female animals as breeding machines and then stripping them from their newborns only to be re-inseminated against their will to be misogynistic?

No. 2356212

>>2356210
Your Nigel is more misogynistic than that

No. 2356213

>>2355405
It’s still a pretty shitty hand to deal on a child though

No. 2356219

>>2355457
Can they even have sex when they’re balls of lard kek? I’m talking morbidly obese.

No. 2356222

>>2356216
>>2356220
Pure copium.

No. 2356224

>>2356216
What constitutes as white

No. 2356227

>>2356224
Worshiping a pedophile prophet, apparently.

No. 2356228

>>2356224
Didn't you hear her? Only true Muslim MENA women are white. The rest of us are black but somehow also white supremacists who deserve to suffer.

No. 2356236

>>2356234
What's a "true white".

No. 2356238

>>2356234
The Middle East is over 90% Muslim.

No. 2356241

>>2356228
Honestly I can't wait to be black

No. 2356245

>>2356229
We all originated from Africa, so what is your point?

No. 2356260

>>2356216
>white skinned black person
An albino???

No. 2356264

>>2356166
Women require a shit ton more iron than men do in their diet. The easiest way to receive that iron is to eat meat. It's also very, very dangerous to be on a vegan diet if you're pregnant.

No. 2356266

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>>2356252
Most women from the Middle East are brown-skinned.

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>>2356191
>On another note, boomers and gen x had the best taste in media, fiction, writing, music, singing, fashion to an extent, hygiene, diet and many other things
Hard agree. They also didn't have to deal with China infesting the global market with subpar (and even dangerous) products. At least in boomer times, cheap shit used to be made in either Hong Kong, Taiwan, or (amazingly) Japan. I wish we could have moids wear suits again and, y'know… bathe. And not be fatassed manchildren.

No. 2356284

why can't we all just get along

No. 2356285

>>2356200
this is so historically inaccurate. The middle east basically invented the math we use today. All im gonna say is my ancestors come from Homo sapiens a lot of you all from the middle east and europe can not say the same and it shows in how you treat people that dont look like you.

No. 2356287

>>2356126
>>2356132
I think it's 'cause millennials and zoomers never learned how to grow up. Or never had to face real hardships, y'know? Like growing up and being told, "No, you can't have that." Stuff like that builds character and really shapes a kid, makes them want to work at something.

No. 2356290

>>2356285
That was from The Golden Age of Islam, which will never repeat itself with the way that religion is spiraling into a more and more dangerous cult with each year.

No. 2356293

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>>2356166
vegan diets lack essential vitamins for women to thrive, including and especially b-12, iron, and calcium. plants do not provide enough of these, or if they do, they provide the type that quickly gets used up in the body once you urinate or defecate. these same vitamins in animal products, meanwhile, go further and hits the stores harder and deeper, idk how to explain this the way scientists do but google it if you want to learn more. the preachy nature of veganism, which tends to have this familiar vibe of being ashamed of yourself or absolving your sins of eating meat as a woman, feels antithetical to the feminist cause despite many young feminist women (even radfems) undertaking these diets to be a part of moralistic fodder. the underlying messaging of going vegan in order to lose weight and look hot and thin feels like moid cope. and then there's pic rel that feels disgusting and is sadly quite common in vegan communities, with this obsession of being the better woman than other women and being rewarded with sexual attention from ugly scrotes. i've scoured through keto and carnivore communities and i don't see this much hypersexualization in them meanwhile. plus, there are lots of women out there who have chronic illnesses that can suffer tremendously or even die from eating a 100% plant diet.

No. 2356295

>>2356285
No they didn't. India invented numerals, Greeks created the basis of math that was used by Western Europe during the Enlightenment period, and a lot of the technology we use today comes from America, Western Europe, India, and East Asia.

No. 2356296

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>>2356290
Middle easterners and Europeans are cut from the same cloth of degeneracy and world destroying. I dont get why you guys hate each other. You are each other.(racebait)

No. 2356302

>>2356285
And the arab muzzie scientists stole that shit from Indians. And all arab and middle eastern scientists ended up getting killed for being Alchemists or atheists altogether. Arabs inherently hate knowledge and anything good. I know because I am arab and middle eastern, these lies and propaganda and rewritten fabricated history never worked on me, because I look at the current people and can tell they never were what they claim. Hopefully you'll wake up to this bullshit, too, one day.

No. 2356304

>>2356287
i feel like every person, especially millennials and zoomers and of course the alphas and the upcoming betas, need to be forced to spend a minimum of one year at a remote, rural area with minimal technology and no internet. just a year of hard physical labor out on the farms and in the fields, homemaking/house work, and helping out with tending animals and so on. no short form social media, no influences to care about, no pronouns to shit yourself over, no frivolous bullshit. just one year to reset the brain.

No. 2356309

>>2356302
lady i dont fuck with arabs they taught white people chattel slavery. They are my enemy #1 and need to get the fuck out of africa and stop lying that they are egyptian

No. 2356311

>>2356296
kek their level of sexism against women and hyper religious attitudes are one of the same. good call, nonna.

No. 2356318

>>2356311
Where are you from where there's no sexism against women? Please share.

No. 2356320

>>2356309
Real af.

No. 2356325

I actually think it’s cute when ladies wear ties and vests

No. 2356326

>>2356318
there's no such thing as a place on earth where there are no misogyny

No. 2356327

>>2356165
This is vile. I don't feel bad for women like this. They deserve nothing but the worst. They breed more muslim scrote into existence.

No. 2356332

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Most people can be attractive if they're skinny. I don't mean ana chan skinny. Just get past skinnyfat and you're usually good. Completely regular or unconventionally attractive people will turn into a 10 easily. Seen it many times and still get shocked when it happens. Literally just get fitter.

No. 2356339

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>>2356332
She looks decent because she had okay facial structure. Being skinny won't make you attractive if you have a bad face.

No. 2356342

>>2356339
She looks cute to me.

No. 2356346

>>2356293
i don’t even want to argue with you because online vegans are the most unbearable group of people. just completely brain dead and unable to parse scientific literature yet linking you to studies that don’t say what they think they are saying all the same. but carnist and lesser like trad wives that just are obsessed with beef liver tallow bone broth etc are even bigger pick mes. like that’s very much the diet of the far right and i don’t think you can say there are bigger pick mes than women eating a stick of butter on tiktok for male attention.

No. 2356347

>>2356342
It's a tranny.

No. 2356348

>>2356332
She's cuter on the left

No. 2356350

>>2356276
This pic makes me long for better times, it's so pretty

No. 2356352

>>2356302
>killing alchemists, scientists and atheists
They did this in Europe aswell, which had its dark ages and golden ages, just like muslims and about every civilization in the world. This is getting silly

No. 2356355

>>2356339
She’s not ugly at all she’s just got a chubby face padding and her eyebrows could maybe benefit from being threaded

No. 2356357

>>2356352
Yea, and Europe advanced beyond that while the Middle East regressed and never accomplished anything technologically.

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No. 2356361

>>2356346
i never said that carnivore communities aren't rife with misogyny because i'm sure there just like it is within vegan communities. and that whole beef liver tallow bone broth thing was hijacked by the maga crowd when they jeered it as "hippie bullshit" just a few decades ago. it is still the truth that women need iron and b-12 and sadly the easiest and best ways to get those are with animal products. continue your vegan diet if you want but it is what it is.

No. 2356362

>>2356358
Anon I don’t think me saying that she’s pretty qualifies as bait lol

No. 2356363

>>2356357
Iran does despite being really backwards in some areas (first female Fields medal/maths Nobel is from there), China is eating the West alive despite having a wildly different culture and being in an awful state not even 20 years ago. Stop blackpilling and masochistically comparing yourself to superior Evropa, every dark age must end

No. 2356368

>>2356362
It's not a woman, it's a transbian and yes, he is ugly

No. 2356371

>>2356352
Except they still do that in the middle east and any mention of science triggers them beyond belief. Just look at all the hate and death threates Ahmed El-Ghandour gets for his harmless fun scientific videos. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. If you spoke arabic and lived amongst them, you wouldn't be defending them.

No. 2356386

>>2356368
Oh. I thought that was just a woman who looked kind of like Jason Schwartzmann. I apologize.

No. 2356387

>>2356371
But i speak arabic and i've lived among them KEK i still don't buy your "muhh uhh we are instrically evil and hate knowledge", it's obviously not true, me and the other anon gave you multiple examples and all you could say is "they stole that from indians" did you know most notable scientific discoveries owe a lot to other discoveries? Arabs are no exception to the rule, knowledge is always incremental, Europe or China or Arabs don't possess a magical knowledge juice. You're overcorrecting. Yes things are unbelievably dark but there's no point in self-flagellation and it's just not true.

No. 2356388

>>2356371
I need Arabs to give Africa back its billions in Gold also. I am so sick of their asses flaunting their slave wealth. They really have some nerve

No. 2356390

>>2356185
This is the truth, but idiots ignore it every time kek

No. 2356391

>>2356388
none of you continents and nations would be anything without Mother Africa. Bow down

No. 2356395

>>2356304
you should be shot privileged old woman(infighting)

No. 2356407

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I find Ayo Edebiri cuter than most other current celebrities. She just seems natural and genuine, like Pinkpantheress.

No. 2356415

>>2356387
Then explain to me why were arabs ok with destroying their own culture in the name of religion and have 0 records or interest in their history before Islam? It's the westerns who are interested in this instead and trying to study the ruins of previous cultures. All arabs say about this is "الحمدلله على نعمة الإسلام كنا عايشين في جهل" as if losing culture and history to cult shit is good. Don't get me started on the death of many languages because they were forced to speak arabic to accommodate their muzzie invaders. And they obviously have an inferiority complex about Europeans and have to compare themselves to them 24/7 and try to prove their somehow better in any possible way. They're obsessed with them because they envy them for being normal in comparison.

No. 2356420

>>2356407
she is so uniquely gorgeous and genuinely charming and funny.

No. 2356430

>>2356407
She's super pretty

No. 2356431

>>2356407
this is not even remotely unpopular anon

No. 2356446

>>2355565
nyart and I also don't believe breeding is anti feminist.
Buuuuut
If humanity can't get their collective shit together then yeah I think we should go extinct.

No. 2356451

>>2355592
In theory we can kill all the men and just use all the donated sperm.
>what about when it runs out
Easy. We select the highest quality sperm and allow males to be born from it, but the males will be kept in facilities where they will only be used for breeding and once they reach 30 they will be culled to prevent autism.

No. 2356456

>>2356415
Because Islam currently functions as a time capsule of ancient times. We are currently going through an extremely reactionary period where many elites apply the letter of the law (destroying past artifacts because they're idols, just like in muhammad's time) rather than the spirit of law. We're basically going through our own Inquisition where religious texts are interpreted in a very particular way to justify an extremely backwards cultural movement, but it's still a far cry from
>Arabs inherently hate knowledge and anything good.
The funny thing i'm we agree at 99% when it comes to Islam but the way you convey it is so self-flagellating, masochistic and partial it prompted me to infight with you kek. Like saying "Arabs are inherently haters of anything good" doesn't do justice to all the cultural indoctrination and pressure needed to produce salafi Arabs or conservative Arabs more generally. And it's a blackpill, which is evil and counter-productive

No. 2356462

>>2356361
nyart but I couldn't donate blood as a vegetarian. They can mock liver all they want but that helped bring my iron levels back to normal.

No. 2356468

>>2356451
So we wouldn’t be killing all the men then? Just killing a few and keeping the sexy, smart ones?

No. 2356470

>>2356462
it’s not that we think it’s unhealthy it’s just that there are women eating full sticks of butter and trying to pasteurize their own milk for no reason.

No. 2356473

>>2356304
>>2356287
You do realize that most millennials are in their late 30s to early 40s even. A lot of us grew up without social media and short form brainrot like tiktok. Most millennials had to raise themselves.

No. 2356477

>>2356470
NTA but damn now a stick of butter with some dates sounds yummy

No. 2356484

>>2356477
Okay I have to know, are you stuffing the dates with the butter, or just eating the stick by itself?

No. 2356489

>>2356473
Yes, but a lot of them are still addicted to social media now as adults.

No. 2356495

I read on an emergency medicine forum how offended and upset medical professionals are that clients secretly record them.
I don't fucking care. Good, even. I don't care how violated you feel, the bullshit that people have gone through at the hands of the medical care industry from top to bottom is enough. And nowadays, if you make a claim of abuse or neglect in a healthcare setting, they "investigate" it and rarely does anything happen without "evidence". So now they're crying because people want evidence?
>but the annoying patients, the malingerers, etc
Okay, who gives a fuck, do your fucking job. Being recorded by the same people who would give you a hard time regardless is not a reason to scrutinize and get offended at REAL PEOPLE who have been burned by the health care system. Sorry you're worried that you feel under the gun, but after miss nurse implies that I'm going to hell for wanting an abortion, or when Mr. Doctor says a cruel comment under his breath, or when someone denies you medical care, or says that they're going to do something and then they don't, or withholds medical tests - all we can do at this point is file a stupid report with the state or administration that will go nowhere, or RECORD EVIDENCE and show people what happened.
>but they can use our voices for AI!
are you fucking serious? I hope they do just because you made such a stupid comment.

Everyone is sick and tired of being fucked with. If I have to pay for insurance that barely pays for what it says it will, if I have to wait 5 months for a PCP only for them to take one look at me and go "it's all in your head, take a walk, lose weight, get an SSRI", or deny tests, I'm going to take my fucking phone and record it if I'm suspicious they're trying to fuck me over.

No. 2356500

>>2356495
Samefag, if you got a medical degree to stick your finger in my asshole or grab my breasts or put a speculum in my fucking vagina, I'm going to record you if something seems off. The audacity of medical professionals to act like our biggest concern is HIPAA. No, YOUR biggest concern is HIPAA so you can keep sticking your fingers in our asses without being recorded. My biggest concern is having a doctor sexually assault me, lie to me, make fun of me or deny me medical care based on their own foolish judgments.

No. 2356502

Socialization and trying to pass laws for protection of women are short-term solutions. If feminism actually wants a future where misogyny doesn't exist they need to look into bioengineering males to be non-predators and women to be stronger, bigger and faster, make pregnancy less and even a non-traumatic event and abort on command.

No. 2356504

>>2356451
I’m so sick of this convo. It’s just not going to happen. Ever. Please adjust your politics accordingly.

No. 2356505

>>2356502
the only long term solution is killing a man when he hurts you or someone else you love.

No. 2356506

Music shouldn't be gatekept. Especially music from indie or lesser known artists.

No. 2356507

>>2356484
I like it both ways, sometimes stuffed in a little pocket and other times just on the side next to my dates and other fruits and cheeses

No. 2356510

>>2356505
No, the long term solution is biogically altering men to not be predators towards women.

No. 2356512

>>2356507
Tasty. I usually stuff mine with brie, but now I'll try butter. Maybe add some nuts and jam, what do you think nona?
Thread tax: Anchovies are underrated.

No. 2356517

>>2356512
Ooh that sounds really good. I kind of like when brie is chunkier and more strong textured as opposed to spreadable. I feel the same way about anchovies and sardines, I used to eat sardines all day long as a kid keeek

No. 2356523

>>2356505
Any idea on how to make that happen without women going to prison? It would be ideal to have reduced or commuted sentences when women commit violent 'vengeance' crimes against men, but most of us don't have legislative powers. On a micro level, would that be like mothers and teachers using discretion and not punishing girls who retaliate against problem boys?

No. 2356529

I once saw an anon call her son a scrote on here. I think it was a baby too. Hopefully a joke but it made me uncomfortable. Hating your son for being a male is only going to end with him having ‘mommy issues’ with a hatred of women and you will have a part, if not be responsible for that. As a mother you have a responsibility to teach your son how to treat girls/women and be a good person. It’s kinda sad. Also inb4 “all scrotes are born bad, abusive, can’t love, are pedos” etc I can see those replies kek

No. 2356532

>>2356529
Also I don’t think this is unpopular? Maybe to radfems idk

No. 2356543

>>2356529
This is probably unpopular, but I think a mother can raise her boy completely right and he can still turn out like a misogynistic shithead if there isn't some form of male role model enforcing what she teaches him. Boys don't grow in vacuums and eventually they'll encounter how our society treats women, and will eventually devalue his mother unless he has an older man to knock some sense into him and model good behavior.

No. 2356547

>>2356529
How is the scrotelet gonna know his mom said that if lolcow is annonymous kek? Also if you hate your son or feel indifferent towards him you can actually raise him with a clearer mind. Boys/men are not like women/girls who respond well to encouragement, love and praise and are able to stay humble and use that as motivation to do better. Men unironically need to be raised like dogs to be decent.

No. 2356558

The idea that "age gaps don't matter after 30" is retarded and I will never change my mind about it. Last time I saw a scrote saying that a 30 year woman and a 50 year old man are "basically peers" so "there's no age gap at that point" and it was one of the most disconnected from reality takes I've ever heard

No. 2356593

>>2356558
Eww I haven’t done the math but my dad was born in 1968 and is in his 50s. Absolutely not

No. 2356606

>>2356529
You could be the best mom ever and all it takes is your son making 1 wrong friend or finding 1 moid youtuber to completely return his settings to the default male

No. 2356614

>>2356606
it just takes one weekend of discovering porn and they turn from sweet to evil

No. 2356616

>>2356558
probably why i had to leave two different jobs where one was a mid-50s scrote itching to cheat on his wife with me and the other a whopping 80-something year old who thinks me being in my 30s is basically the same as his life lmao. i am never touching men again regardless how old he is but you are so right.

No. 2356641

>>2356506
This is indeed unpopular. If we don't gatekeep, the wrong unwanted kind of people who never bother to make an effort and to dig for things that deserve being listened to would easily reach the music, and then the artists would start changing their style and sound to accommodate their new more mainstream average normalfag fans, which could make the music not that interesting anymore. They're indie and underground because the music is unconventional and doesn't appeal to everybody and anyboy. Appealing to the common denominator always waters music down and straight up ruins it. Especially in this day and age where standards for what constitutes as music are way too low so losers with shit taste in making music and listening to music can feel included and better about themselves or something.

No. 2356642

>>2356616
Dear lord the audacity of scrotes

No. 2356647

>>2356606
Pretty much. I think moids have to be raised around strong-willed, intelligent women for them to not be such gigantic dickheads.

No. 2356648

>>2356529
Oh no the poor scroteling! It's going to grow up to hate women and be attracted to children regardless, who cares

No. 2356654

This is not a racebait but a call to action. I need white girls to go back to their roots and ditch the terrible blaccents in their music. I was listening to White houses and Ordinary day by Vanessa Carlton and all that iconic bisexual did was play her piano and sing about her life in a magical yet mundane way. I need white girls back in their bag. Stop trying to sound black and start sing talking again.THIS is what the culture needs.Unrelated but she is my first insight on bisexuality i didnt know it was a thing until she came out in like 2010 kek.

No. 2356661

>>2356529
>all scrotes are born bad, abusive, can’t love, are pedos
I don't understand anons who think all men are pedos but still date them anyways

No. 2356663

>>2356470
Stop believing the extremists that your only options is being a spoop vegan or munchie tinfoil who eats entire sticks of unpasteurized butter.
I just added meat and organ meats to my diet and avoided goyslop. It's not revolutionary.

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>>2356126
>1997
You aren't a millennial and stop thinking being a fake bitch is unique to just an entire singular generation. Fake bitches always existed and always will exist.

No. 2356679

>>2356126
People born in 1995-1997 are zillenials, trapped between two dimensions

No. 2356681

>>2356654
i agree, i find value in everyone being different from each other and we don't have to all be completely assimilated and homogeneous.

No. 2356695

>>2356287
I don't agree with this at all. It's spurred by the fact that both zoomers and millennials have this notion that we need to be more progressive and kinder than our gen x/boomer parents who grew up in times where a lot of prejudices such as racism and homophobia was more socially acceptable. Especially for millenials, i'd see sentiments like this verbatim on tumblr all the time, they really thought being this way would mean that we will solve such issues once and for all. It can't be argued that zoomers and millennials have never faced hardships because we all come from different economic backgrounds, some people had to deal with abuse and have to deal with different parenting styles. Most of this behaviour is just an attempt to not repeat any negative behaviours of the past generations and it's done practically to a fault because some people care more about how they are perceived rather than actually being good people sometimes, in other cases, they are deathly afraid of being negatively perceived as a bully or acting out of line. I see this line of thinking as the foundation of sjw culture as a whole.

No. 2356717

BMI is a decent tool for measuring average health.
"But BMI doesn't take muscles into account!" I mean yeah correct, it was made for average people who don't go to the gym to build muscles on the regular… and that's literally you, you never work out. It was made for people like you, you're just trying to cope with being too fat. Plus BMI actually has a really big span of what's considered healthy, you could gain or lose 30 pounds and still be in the healthy bracket for your height so it's not as rigid as people like to pretend.

No. 2356735

>>2356311
*One IN the same, not one of the same

No. 2356746

>>2356717
BMI is most often inaccurate in that it UNDERESTIMATES obesity. In terms of bodyfat % there are plenty of skinnyfat 'healthy' people who should be 'overweight' or 'overweight' people who are actually 'obese'.

But yeah, you're right. If you're not fucking arnie it doesn't apply to you, and if you are a bodybuilder then you already know enough about your body to not rely on BMI. For the vast majority, it's perfectly fine.

No. 2356748

>>2356746
It’s a cope that fatties use kek

No. 2356804

the reason why dating apps don't work is because it never was supposed to work. i know there's incels out there who shit themselves crying about how they never get even a match or a message because they're not chad thundercocks or whatever, but honestly, they just don't work for even the slightly cute everyday average people out there. most people are average looking - could be below average, above average, or perfectly average, but regardless, average is not good enough for apps. social media is about utilizing extremes to garner attention. dating apps work the exact same way. this applies to both men and women, and osa and ssa people. unless you're some outrageously attractive rare case who's super interesting and have a lot of amazing things going for you, you are not going to achieve much on the apps. dating is an offline event, you're supposed to find your next partner at parties, near your jobs, at a class, at some club that is centered on an interest or a hobby, out traveling somewhere, etc. it's not because 80% of people are going for 20%, its because 97% of people worldwide just don't cut it in terms of the ridiculously cutthroat standards curated by the retarded dating apps. go outside and suddenly it's not so bad.

No. 2356810

>>2356804
incels can't make it anywhere, online or otherwise. Their personalities are just human repellant.

No. 2356846

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Sillypoo if it was based

No. 2356861

>>2356846
i love this schizo retard, her comics are like modern day nekojiru



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