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This thread is for voluntary NEETs who wish to keep up this lifestyle, or are not ready to reintegrate into society yet. NEET stands for Not in Employment, Education or Training, having little/no active social life does not make you a NEET.
Previous thread:
>>>/ot/859842This is not a place for ex-NEETs, those attempting to return to society, or those who wish to. Here is the link to the current recovering NEET thread: >>>/ot/1714003Some topics to discuss may include:
>How you earn or spend NEETbux>Ways you spend your free time>Opinions of others and how you feel>The positive and negatives that come with NEETdomBe considerate of others and refrain from shaming or sharing opinions that are not relevant here.
No. 2448285
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How many chronically online shut ins do you think exist in the general population? Like in a population of 100 people?
i feel like covid caused a mass extinction event of normies by forcing them to spend more time online then they naturally would, destroying their friendships, relationships, jobs, etc, which isolated them, and thus spending time online the internet and going places they otherwise wouldnt has exposed them to retarded ideology and autistic gamma rays.
Do people still go outside and socialize with strangers face to face the way they used to?
Maybe it’s because i been a hiki NEET for 2 years since graduating HS but for some reason I find it hard to believe normal people exist anymore since I see the world through the warped lens of the internet.
Im in the USA if it matters.
No. 2448636
>>2448565But you don’t feel bad about being NEET?
I struggled more in adulthood too and also have a brother. I just hope I can live on my own. Decorate my house the way I want. Have peace that I don’t have to live at home.
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Many people work hard and still live paycheck to paycheck. Nightmare fuel. I'm lucky that I have a good family.
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No. 2459643
>>2459627Unfortunately I'm a big retard so even if I wanted to be productive during all my free time, I mostly struggle with trying to make myself do even basic shit. I can answer your question about disability checks though.
Off social security disability payments, which increase or decrease depending on where you live to account for cost of living (what a joke haha), I still need other benefits to make it work. Primarily food stamps, I would be kind of fucked without them. There are also apartment units with reduced rent set aside for those who are disabled/elderly, and you need your benefit statement as proof you are on SSI/SSDI so you qualify to rent there. However, since there are never enough of these units built, the waitlists are years and years long. And a lot of the residents don't move out unless they become unable to be left alone, or die. When I'm not renting in these kinds of units, I'm living with family.
I have never worked. I was declared disabled when I turned 18, before I finished high school.
I do not ever plan to work a normal job, for many reasons which all add up to being unable to perform at a normal job. If I ever escape being on benefits or the charity of my family, it will be because I found something niche that allows me to go at my own pace from home, or on commission. I have a few plans for this, but it's a toss up whether they'll pan out. I've accepted this after many years of grief, it is what it is.
If you thrive off of leaving the house and interacting with people, this life will probably make you want to die. You are pretty broke, so you have to be okay with being a homebody. If you're okay with that, it's hard to get bored. I have an internet connection, my issue is pulling myself away from the internet or sleeping for long enough to be productive. I have started so many retarded projects and hobbies just because I could. Even if I get sick enough to be bedbound, I can pull up lolcow threads on my phone and let the hours go by.
Your biggest enemy will be "lack of enrichment". You gotta shower, you gotta get out of bed and walk outside sometimes, you gotta put down your week long Netflix binge and read a book. You need to mix things up semi-regularly so you don't start feeling dull and depressed. It's the #1 trap of being a NEET, in my opinion, you have to be on point and not let yourself fall into a ditch.
No. 2459662
>>2459656I think. Maybe those high functioning autists have something else wrong with them. Even at my most mentally ill I wasn't wasting time getting into retarded internet arguments, much less about troons.
The situation about being married giving you less benefits is true in the US as well. It's why disability rights activists have "the right to marry" as one of their talking points. You will be forced to rely on your spouse or family members if you try to be on disability and married, which then leads to increased rates of domestic violence against the disabled. I should have clarified in my response, but the other disability benefits like food stamps and reduced rent keep me from having to rely on family. Which is good, because if my parents die when I need to rely on them, I'm totally fucked.
Sorry I couldn't answer your questions more in depth since I am amerifag, hopefully someone else with more helpful info will be by soon.
No. 2459669
>>2459662>Even at my most mentally ill I wasn't wasting time getting into retarded internet arguments, much less about troons.We're all nerdy late millennial women in Europe so tbh some of my friends care too much about this topic without even being autistic. I think in the case of the two women I'm talking about it's really just that they were on tumblr and twitter as teenagers and then young adults to talk about fandoms and arguing on the internet became their new special interest later. If we were zoomers maybe things would have been different because we would have been exposed to different information and opinions, I believe it's a matter of wrong time and wrong place here. They both were diagnosed a few years ago as adults too. One of my close friends is a neet too and she does the same thing but she has anxiety on top of that and has been doing a lot better since she started taking antidepressants recently so maybe you're right and they all have both issues at the same time or something similar.
>Sorry I couldn't answer your questions more in depth since I am amerifagNo need to apologize, I just want to have personal experiences and opinions so I can see what I should do next before my job gives me a mental breakdown and I suspect I should try and be a neet for some time to "recover" and use my free time on hobbies.
No. 2468420
>>2468071Maybe retarded of me, but the way you described your neet situation made me feel a lot better.
My neetbux were recently cut off and I'm in a long appeal process. I would have been homeless were it not for my dad and stepmom helping me move out of my apartment and taking me back in. I've been feeling so awful about it, but something about "warm in my room, playing minecraft" makes it feel less like the end of the world.
No. 2492477
>>2459627>have you ever worked? If yes, did you quit, were you fired, did you last contract simply end on a set date?Yeah. My job gave me some awards for being decent? I got sick and had to go to the ER and they didn't rehire me. It was a fall job, around Black Friday, back when it was hell.
>are you earning unemployment benefits? If you're disabled, are you earning disability benefits instead? Is it enough or do you need a bf/husband or parents to financially help?Disabled. My disability isn't even enough to buy me food because I pay 1/3rd the rent with it. My mom does the heavy lifting with her retirement funds.
>do you plan to stay a neet for as long as possible or do you maybe plan on staying one for a specific amount of time? (example, my big sister only accepts job contracts for 6 months or a year at most and doesn't do shit until she can't earn unemployement benefits anymore on purpose so she can have as much free time as possible)I want to not be a NEET but there are more reasons to stay one than not. My mom's a bit… irresponsible since I have a disability and need her for assistance at times, so moving out would benefit me. I just can't because the symptoms are getting worse and it apparently isn't accepted as a diagnosis by real doctors kek. I make money by being a digital artist, but my unwillingness to draw NSFW has netted me absolutely nothing in the past 6 months. (2 were used to recover from a surgery, and I just hopped accounts to dodge horny commissions). I think beliving I'm going to "make it" is holding me back from ditching art all together.
>do you still keep yourself busy during your free time or are you bored most of the time?I spend 24/7 drawing and studying art. I'm not amazing but I would like to think my dedication to it is worth something. I don't know the last time I was ever bored.
No. 2492820
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I quit college and i became a NEET again. Seeing someone achieve everything i wanted in front of me with ease while i failed miserably despite trying my best made me realize that nothing will improve. I am tired of seeing prettier, more intelligent women achieve things i want with ease while i fail again and again. It is what it is, i cant change my destiny. Might as well enjoy a few years of happiness then off myself with dignity than spend my life trying to chase after a dream that will never become real.
No. 2492822
>have you ever worked? If yes, did you quit, were you fired, did you last contract simply end on a set date?
I worked a ton of jobs. I volunteered when I was 13-16 and started a wage job at 14 and did various random things for money. I was very money-making oriented from a young age and was always looking for opportunities to turn a small profit while giving something person I was proud of, like the little slushie stand, I was like 8, I made my own slushie syrups from sugar and koolaid mixes and made it extra gooey everyone loved it.
The jobs I liked a lot were phased out by bad economy or automation. I’ve never had a full time job I could handle. I planned to be a professional with a masters or PhD but my health had other plans.
>are you earning unemployment benefits? If you're disabled, are you earning disability benefits instead? Is it enough or do you need a bf/husband or parents to financially help?
I was supposed to get disability but it fell through. I got a judge who has literally never approved anyone who wasn’t actively on death’s door/severely violently mentally retarded. My lawyer was basically like, this guy never gives anyone disability. And he had horrible reviews online. Basically if you can speak he won’t grant disability. I got bad luck. I’ll need to reapply. Sucks but, it’s all I can do. For now my parents support me but they are impoverished so it’s a struggle. Thankfully they have housing security at least and my dad can make good money when he tries, it’s just hard cause he’s auDHD af and has an autoimmune condition and is a shitty scrote so he struggles to do his work. Also THANK GOD for being an only child.
>do you plan to stay a neet for as long as possible or do you maybe plan on staying one for a specific amount of time?
Unless a treatment comes out for my most debilitating condition, I plan to stay NEET. Even then idk if I could get over my other issues.
>do you still keep yourself busy during your free time or are you bored most of the time?
I’m only bored when I’m bedbound and can’t play video games and when it’s too taxing to even watch stuff on a laptop. That’s very boring. I’m not bored when I’m well enough to sit my ass up and watch stuff or better yet play video games. Thankfully I’ve always been at least able to go to the bathroom and brush my teeth but being stuck in bed due to feeling like absolute garbage is SO BORING especially when videos fuck with you or worse, you have a migraine on top of being so disgustingly unexplainably fatigued.
>inb4 ur fat
I’m not fat and even though I’ve been very unwell I’ve been prioritizing a daily walk and a few sit ups/push ups. I’m hovering slightly above underweight. Eat my ass.
No. 2492855
>>2492803>you just won't have any time to yourself due to the exhaustion once that happensI'm just not sure how people get motivated with that reality.
I did okay with freelance art for a few years after my first breakdown over being a NEET. I started strong, slowed down, then stopped recently since I started stressing over everything. It did help a tiny bit with independence, and I liked feeling useful by being able to lend family money.
But my parents told me that even if I made some progress during that time, it wasn't much progress.
>>2492816Mid 20s. Parents are aged, but healthy currently, I have a decent support net with functional sibling as well, but the thought of them having to support someone dysfunctional like me while they're having their own family, I don't want that.
No. 2492870
>>2458708Not a neet technically but I work at my mom's firm so I guess in actuality I would be.
Yes that's very familiar. Not really controlling, but rather pampering? I think the job she gave me is a perfect example of it. It's just 4 hours, extremely easy and comfy, but pays juuust enough for the bill and food. Can't move anywhere from there. My basics are covered but there is no forward path. I will never earn more that the basics there, but at the same time my hourly pay is good enough that I can find shitty jobs with less hourly no longer interesting even if the total hours would result in better pay overall. There is just 0 incentive. It's too comfy in this puddle. Shameful and depressive but so goddamn easy.
No. 2492873
>>2459669Arguing on the internet is kinda just coping mechsnism for me (as an autists myself). If I don't argue with other people I end up arguing with myself in my head annd basically going schizo.
I am a zoomer.
I just subconsciously understand or think that unless I tickle another person emotionally they won't give me the time of day. There gotta be something provocative involved. I am the lowest of trolls.
No. 2492921
My mom seems to be grasping that this country is done for. She used to be much more anal about mine or brothers job failures, now she just says whatever. She has also poked me saying that I should move elsewhere (referring to different country). I told her I dont have resources and she said she would pay but like damn. She doesnt seem to understand how much worse other places are in terms of rent, her expenses on me would rise from like 300 a month to 1500 and its too much shame for me to handle. She also doesn't get that I am a total dependant - not just financially but emotionally and psychosocially. Its fucking terrifying to be without her. I even have a nigel, but he is just indulgence thing for me while my only real friend in this life is my mom. I know she will never move, she is fine getting bombed if it comes to this because she doesnt care anymore. But I am actually terrified being here. It is not just looming threat of war, but all of the social services are being uprooted. The unemployment offices are closing, neetbux are getting cancelled, higher education is no longer free, the health insurance is slowly erasing important fields out of it - last year it was psychiatry, this year its orthopaedics, every year there are more people that just do not get to have a gp meaning they cant even have a sick leave. All of this is combined with persistent inflation and rising taxes, while it doesnt affect me personally that much it just adds to the anxiety. I feel like the gov is just planning on amassing as much money as possible and then running away themselves.
No. 2493868
>>2493802Same. Do you socialize much with others in real life or mainly online?
I'm just not sure how much damage I've done to my psyche by not having proper social interaction for so long. When they were talking about the long-term mental effects of covid lockdowns, it made me feel like I must be beyond broken.
It was kind of a blur the first 5 years, but then I became more aware of my situation after that.
No. 2493936
>>2493868I'm long past the hikki threshold of having to remind myself to open my windows once every other month not to end up suffocating and blacking out
not even sure when was the last time I talked to someone IRL, probably my parents many years ago, since I've been living alone since I dropped out of school at 16 basically
but it's not like I have online friends either, sometimes I may vent here when I feel more sad than usual, but I'm never really expecting, nor getting, any replies anyway
I doubt I'd be able to hold a conversation without stuttering or feeling utterly terrified, so that probably would count as "long-term damage" for you
also my health went to the gutter, but that's a given at this point
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>>2444802I wasn't originally a NEET, I wasn't even a socially anxious type but I started getting stalked online and in real life and now I shun society as a whole. I graduated hs got my bachelors degree. Now I just fantasize about killing men and society is dirty vile trash to me. I've had experience working in hotels and will turn my mom's house into a bed and breakfast business to help fund her care and my life. But I will never rejoin society. I Am through. I will cook for people and garden and can things and sell bee honey, split the dinero. That is as far as I will go anymore. The rest of the time I will make art that enrages people behind the scenes and enjoy it. You can all kiss my ass.
No. 2495057
>>2495052I've already had the privilege to experience mind-numbing sedatives to treat "psychosis" and the so-called "zombieland" when I was a teenager
so not sure how some glorified drug prescriptionist is going to fix anything for me
No. 2495062
>>2495057You seem to have severe depression, not psychosis.
If you're talking to a good psychiatrist, he will argue better than me the pros and cons of going on medication, and even if you don't want to go on drugs, they are not even supposed to be the main treatment. The main treatment is therapy, which will be prescriped by him as well.
Drugs are supposed to help you get back up. The drugs used for depression (SSRI) are not the same as those used to treat "psychosis", they are more mild and have less side effects, they are much less numbing. They are supposed to be taken for 6 months to 2 years until you can function correctly on your own, so it's not a life sentence either.
It's at least worth a try going in for a consult, hearing out what he thinks your diagnosis is and what treatment options he has to offer, you can ask all the questions you want and judge him based on his answers. If you're not convinced you can always walk away.