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No. 263689
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>>232967>>241117>>252094Critique Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or it's fucked up industry (or just nitpick some idols).
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Keep in mind that this is not the anti Korea thread. It's not Korean society as a whole. No. 263696
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>>263689armys NEED to be stopped
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Name a sadder more pathetic group in Kpop
No. 263707
>>263701dont bother
>>263699i want a BTS scandal too, i'd love one of the members to do/say something really bad and then see the armys defending him and infighting over it. would be so entertaining as they're particularly insane even for kpop fans
No. 263711
>>263698I'm the anon who asked for it to be spoilered in the last thread and I was mostly kidding anyway
>>263702seconded, though honestly pretty much any girl at all would stir up a shitstorm. If she's pretty the more unstable fans would desperately call her ugly and nitpick her features, if she's ugly fans would bully her for not being "good enough", etc.
No. 263717
>>263706sadder? after school or nine muses
pathetic? big bang
No. 263750
>>263704Whoop. Thanks farmhands.
>>263711Which is crazy to me because I feel like a western pop stars enter fake relationships for the publicity. Harry Style and Taylor Swift milked there few months long relationship for entire albums. It’s so backward to me that Kpop stars can’t do the same.
No. 263755
>>263754I want one of the members to say something about finding dark skinned girls categorically unattractive.
Imagine the fallout.
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>>263755Back in their first years they got those annoying questions they do to every rookie group about their ideal type and all of them said they preferred "pale skin, skinny and smol girlfriend that knows how to cook me uwu". Their fans just decided to have selective memory
No. 263769
>>263761I remember people getting
triggered over that and also about theirs and Exo's ideal girl's heights/weights.
Only RM mentioned pale, but the other stuff is also incrediby old-fashioned… Why would some teen want that?
>Rap Monster: A sexy girl who can converse with me for a long time with a nice voice, is appropriately tall, has pale skin, feminine girl, looks good in a white T-shirt + Jeans + Red Converse High. >Jin: A girl whose looks and personality is similar to that of a puppy, whose good at cooking, kind and takes good care of me. >J.Hope: Likes books and takes good care of others, a girl who’s good at cooking. >Suga: Someone similar to me, someone composed and wise, who likes music.>Jimin: A girl who is nice and cute. Must be smaller than me. Lol at his insecurity
>V: Someone who becomes more charming by the day, someone who only takes care of me, someone who only loves me, someone who’s chic outdoors but makes me hot chocolate and has a lot of aegyo inside. Also a girl who spends the money I earn thrifty, who can give everything to my/our parents. You can clearly see how much of a village idiot he is..
>JungKook: Someone who’s at least 168 cm but smaller than me, is a good wife, good at cooking, smart, has pretty legs, and is nice. Also a girl who likes me, is good at singing.
>Rap Monster (181cm,64kg) – Suitable girls: 166-170cm,50kg>Jin (179cm,63kg) – Suitable girls: 166-160cm>J.Hope (176cm,56kg) – Suitable girls: 164-160cm,45kg>Suga (173cm,57kg) – Suitable girls: 160-155cm,43kg>Jimin (174cm,60kg) – Suitable girls: 161-159cm,40kg>V (177cm,58kg) – Suitable girls: 162-164cm,45kg>JungKook (176cm,61kg) – Suitable girls: 168cm,45kg Says a lot about just how much they're lying about their own height when they want their gf to be less than 160cm.
No. 263772
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>>263769V would make a great MGTOW.
But seriously those measurement are so excessive, they all want underweight gf (if they even understand how those numbers translalte IRL), I get that asians have smaller bones / hold less fat than other ethnicities, but still…
No. 263778
>>263775There is also nothing wrong with wanting a housewife or with being a housewife. Just because you don't want to be one doesn't mean that people who want a girl who can cook are inherently
problematic. Again, the absolute state of roasties.
No. 263779
>>263769>looks good in a white T-shirt + Jeans + Red Converse Highwat. thats so specific
>>263778>rrrrrroastiesget out male
No. 263783
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>>263717>big bangB-but anon, what's pathetic about sellouts trying desperately to stay relevant past their golden days? Tell me it's not true!
/s if not quite obvious
No. 263789
>>263769>Jimin: A girl who is nice and cute. Must be smaller than me.But isn't Jimin like 3 feet tall? rip
>V: Someone who only takes care of meSounds like he just wants a new tard wrangler, one he can fuck
No. 263793
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Anons in the kpop thread
No. 263794
>>263793You mean in the
ANTI-kpop thread, right?
No. 263797
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>>263789>Sounds like he just wants a new tard wrangler, one he can fuckkek
No. 263820
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i know it's been mentioned before but christ that girl from apink's nosejob is tragic. you barely see noses that botched that haven't had about 3+ surgeries on it already. it's lucky that apink have been rapidly becoming less relevant since about 2015 because it would be a much bigger topic if they were still at mr chu levels of hype
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>>263830even mj's nose looks better in comparison. jesus christ what a hatchet job
No. 263882
>>263793I haven't seen anyone in the regular kpop thread shitting on weebs
>>263820holy shit this is uncomfortable to look at
No. 263893
>>263820This is the saddest nosejob I've ever seen. What a shame for her. I hope she can get a rib graft or something to help salvage it.
Unfortunately nosejobs do always have the chance to turn out somewhat badly depending how one's body reacts (scarring, issues with cartilage and bone alignment shifting during healing) and k-pop stars are so pressured to pursue plastic surgery that it's no surprise a number of them end up with some bad results eventually, but this is so beyond an expected not-so-great result and simply reprehensible sloppy work by the surgeon.
No. 263946
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Apparently, Jisoo from Black Pink claims to be 23 years old (born in 1995). How old does she look to you, anons? I think she must be in her late 20s. She looks noticeably older than the other girls in her group, which isn't a bad thing, but she's definitely not 23. I asked a friend that doesn't know about kpop how old the girl in this pic looks, and she said 35, kek
I'm sure this age change wasn't her own idea, but her company's. What motivates kpop companies to lie about idol's ages? Does being older make her less of an ideal waifu? Are kpop consumers only interested in younger girls? Is lying about the age of an idol a common practice in kpop? I'm pretty curious about this, because the whole thing seems pretty ridiculous to me.
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>>263946Never thought that about Jisoo (since Rose also looks more mature than the other 2), but some other idols. I always thought Boa is in her 40s already. Seohyun, Irene and also definitely Whasa (sorry but she looks incredibly old for a 22 year old…)
No. 263965
>>263951I looked at more pictures since everyone disagreed, and I think this must have been what made me think she looked so much older. The other girls do look super young, and I think that Jisoo does get more mature styling overall, though they all seem to wear some pretty wacky stuff… Even if she really is 23, her mature features seem to be pretty rare among most kpop girls that all seem to be trying to look as young as possible (though I admittedly don't know many, so I could be wrong).
Is lying about ages a thing that happens in kpop in general though? I remember someone mentioned it in a previous thread with regards to Loona I think.
>>263948 is right that lying about ages doesn't make much sense when there's a whole market of actual younger girls to hire, but I've got to imagine it has happened before
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>>263965Many idols are from rich families, so maybe if daďdy is paying enough they let you debut even if you're already in your 20s (same for the really ugly ones).
No. 263975
>>263973She look like a tranny here. I thought she looked a little nicer in her
I live alone episode (not beautiful, but like a regular girl not some intersex monstrosity).
No. 264046
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This is the first result if you google "Jimin lips", kek.
No. 264069
>>264067i found it funny that after years of memes about sm having a factory to produce male idols who were like their older idols, they basically admit they have a never ending stream of teen boys, and pretty much everyone will have been called "______ 2.0" or a mix of X and Y idols.
personally i think they should've just expanded on the original exo two teams idea instead of this. have individual groups like dream and 127 and call it u when members collaborate rather than the groups blending together and the lineups always changing
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>>263973Legit thought this was that Rap Monster guy in a dress at first.
No. 264114
>>263973TBH that
is a super unflattering pic in general. Like the other anon pointed out, in this video
>>263975 she doesn't look as bad, and looks her age, too. I like Hwasa cause she seems more authentic than say, TWICE members.
Speaking of which…
""Blinks"" (i hate those fandom names) are buttblasted because of this cover. Funny though, because it's a song that belongs to JYP, the agency that owns TWICE. And honestly, I prefer their cover over Blackpink's. I think BP tries to hard, even if Twice doesn't try at all lmao
Also, this kinda stuff suits Tzuyu way more than the aegyo shit. The vocals are still weak as ever, though.
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>>264114>this kinda stuff suits Tzuyu way more than the aegyo shitAgreed. I think she's overhyped as hell, but her not being dead for that performance makes me get her appeal a bit more.
But man, that orange hair and bangs on Chaeyoung…
>tfw this isn't even the most unflattering picture of her new hair No. 264148
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>>264131Aw, I think she looks kinda cute like that. Better than whe she had super duper short hair, like pic related. Still, the look on the right is still her best, imo. Them Blinks were also mad as shit with this hair of hers, saying she copied Lisa. I mean, I know all blinks are probably 12 and stuff, but this is dumb even at that age.
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>>264114Tzuyu always looks empty with her dead eyes, she is honestly too overrated.
No. 264316
>>264315>Red lightIs this a song about being an amsterdam hoe?
I don't feel bad for them, tho, their only job is to dance around for 3 min in skimpy outfits, they can wear heels.
No. 264355
>>264334
>buying t-shirts and posters or bands you likeokay seriously though why is kpop merch so…weird? i always see fans with plushies, trading cards, or those ugly light sticks. it seems rare for groups to sell things like t-shirts or posters, which is pretty basic merch for an entertainer to have (hell, even youtubers sell those)
what makes it worse is that:
1) plushies themselves aren't that strange but the fans are so creepy with them that it makes it weird
2) trading cards are a scam so that retarded people buy multiple copies of stuff until they collect all the cards/get their bias
3) light sticks are just stupid and most of them are hideous. it's understandable to have one if you're going to see the group in concert, but international fans will buy it just to say they own one. waste of money. and not to mention the other useless stuff that's marketed towards fans
what's wrong with a simple graphic tee or those little pin/button thingys? i guess since "stans" are dumb enough to buy anything, it doesn't matter (even though they simultaneously complain about how "being a kpop stan is so expensive!!!"…maybe stop buying dumb shit?)
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>a few months ago I had no knowledge of kpop at all
>start browsing anti-kpop thread on lolcow for a laugh
>reading about their drama and crazy fans is actually pretty amusing
>buying groceries today
>two young girls near me squealing over something
>feel awkward when I recognize that they're talking about BTS
>feel ashamed when I know exactly who Namjoon and Jungkook are
help
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>>264675
>i'm a kpop skeptic too and i don't know or care about it at all >i've been reading all these threads for fun. didn't know jackshit about the people being discussed. >now when i browse sites for people with eating disorders (don't judge me pls) and see all the kpop profile pics… the threads for kpop discussion. the spoopies in the bands that get posted here. the skellies we judge here get glorified. >feel ashamed that i understand the connection now>and man, i hate kpop.the relation is so prevalent it bothers me.
No. 265073
>>264945i can't stand them either. their bad bitch schtick is really unconvincing given that they're under YG, who is a raging misogynist and creep who calls his female employees ugly. i much prefer girl groups like LOONA who have mild aegyo and don't act badass
anyone else think the existence of brockhampton makes the ""rap line"" of bts want to kill themselves? because i hope it does
No. 265117
>>265105>weren't some of them lied to by their company and told that they would be an all rap group?nah. That's a meme/misinformation. They all knew they were going to be idols and could've left if they didn't like the way things were going.
anyway I just thought the brockhampton comparison specifically was a little weird. they have different goals, musical style, demographics, and perform in different industries. that's like saying "do you think the existence of [insert literally any American rapper or rap group] makes the rap line want to kill themselves". Hell even Migos would've been a better comparison seeing as a lot of BTS' rap is inspired by them.
>appealing to a much wider audience than chunky genderqueer fangirls this especially makes the comparison fall apart seeing as Brockhampton is spearheaded by Kevin "THIS IS A GAYS ONLY EVENT" Abstract and have as a result collected a ton of queer fans/fangirls.
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Loona stans are about to get even more annoying
No. 265288
>>265271the fake woke loona stans won't care, hardly anybody talks about the arms dealer funding at all. loona have already sexualised underage girls, the woke stans don't care because they want to fuck the underage girls anyway. they use gay fanservice, the woke stans don't care because they think it's representation and not some guys fetish. they've made jokes about eating disorders, lie about their ages to seem more uwu younger and barely legal, the sole stans don't care, they were still happy about the grimes thing when it happened even though it was after she got with musk.
loona are going to stay the top group for woke stans for a while because they can play the 'loona isn't KPOP, it's a unique project' card and try to seem unique and not like other kpop fans. strip away the fake edge and the songs that hide any vocals and they're just the same as any other girl group. more manufactured if anything because each girl is literally playing a character
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>>264675tfw you were actually like this exactly one year ago with your classmates. Thank God I outgrew that phase
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>>265811Nice Gigi Gorgeous proportions.
No. 265827
>>265811that audience isn't made of dirty old men, it's dirty 19 year old guys. go look at any pic or fancam of twice fans.
>are pop shows the korean equivalent of going to a strip clubyes. male bonding over kpop girl groups is a very popular hobby among young korean guys. just like the most popular websites and forums among young korean guys have specific sections dedicated to posting gifs and pics of girl group members.
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>>266197
>but the fact that his entire musical identity seems to be based around the fact he's gay is kinda disappointingagreed 100%! imo it would have been a little more impactful if his approach was "yes i'm gay, but that doesn't define me"…instead it's just "i'm a gay idol! watch me make out with dudes! did i mention i'm gay?"
the diversity and LGBT representation is really cool but as
>>266206 said, it makes it seem like he's using his sexuality to entice people instead of relying on the music alone.
>>265708Speaking of Amber, who are some other idols who are obviously not straight but are forced to pretend otherwise?
my bet is on sungjung from infinite. i didn't know anything about the group until they appeared on a variety show i watched, and from the moment he was on screen it was apparent that he's super gay. i find it hard to believe claims that he's just a flamboyant straight male, just like it's hard to believe amber is a straight tomboy instead of a lesbian. his sexuality is a huge elephant in the room that gets ignored and its kinda baffling
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>>266271Ryeowook of Super Junior.
Seriously, watch the Mr. Simple M/V if you haven’t already. I dare you. You’ll know which one is him immediately, trust me.
No. 266349
>>266271there was a period for a while where Jaejoong was rumoured to constantly be fucking models in Japan, male or female. He's gone 15 years where the only concrete dating rumour was Jessica, but if he was outright gay it would've come out in that tape where he's blackout drunk and yelling at a stalker, unless he's so good at hiding it that he can talk about having a girlfriend while being incoherent enough to shout about how he hates Korean fans.
The biggest rumour he had that wasn't an obvious ship was Kim Hyun Joong, ha. They lived together for a bit, went travelling together, and apparently it was a pretty big fight when Jaejoong moved out and they barely interacted after that. Since KHJ is a bastard that can be easily explained though. The slightly less obvious rumours are interesting, especially since all of the rumoured gay and bi guys overlap and hang out in big groups. Jaejoong, TOP, GD, KHJ, Zico, a lot of the guys who're in drunken photos of 10+ guys including Hong Seok Cheon
Also I've noticed fans have somehow done a 180 and have concluded that Heechul is straight. He's just a weeb and was openly gay before debut, he's not a sassy straight guy.
No. 266355
>>266275I want to personally thank this anon because thanks to this gif I've discovered Seo Taiji's music and I've been listening it non-stop for hours.
>>266271
>Speaking of Amber, who are some other idols who are obviously not straight but are forced to pretend otherwise? He's not forced to act heterosexual or anything but I just can't see J-Hope as a 100% straight guy. Maybe he just seems femenine to me, idk. Even when I see him act more 'mature' and without those annoying screams…
No. 266356
>>265288>arms dealer funding they aren't being funded by arms dealing anon stop believing everything you read online
do some research first
No. 266371
>>266355Really? I see J-hope as the least likely to be gay one out of BTS. Namjoon is the one who I see the most likely to be gay/bi
I would also say V but then again he is a backwards country boy so probably not.
No. 266372
>>266371I see none of them being gay.
Some of you guys honestly sound like fujo fans.
No. 266374
amber is definitely gay. korean culture makes guys act like feminine babies so it's really hard to say if any male idol is gay
>>266371but seriously, namjoon? he seems the straightest out of all the guys in bts honestly. y'all are wild
No. 266377
>>266371I see Yoongi as the most likely to at least go both ways just because he seems like that kind of guy who doesn’t give a fuck about the gender of the other person (as edgy as that sounds) plus he’s written some pretty cryptic lyrics.
I personally see Jungkook and Namjoon as the least likely to be into dudes. They both give off fuckboy vibes of different types- Jungkook as the young, never-got-to-grow-up naive socially unaware type and Namjoon as the typical pretentious fake-deep first-class douche kind.
But would I still date them? Yep No. 266379
>>266372Speculating about who's gay doesn't make you a fujo fan.
Most studies estimate ~10% of the population is be gay, so for a whole industry to be made up of only straight people is a little odd.
The chances are that there are a lot of idols who are in the closet, because Korea is a homophobic country.
And some idols, like Amber, are clearly gay but closeted so anons were just speculating.
It's hard to tell though with all the fake personas and queer-bating they do
No. 266394
>>266391She called two members fuckboys, then followed it up by saying she wanted to date them. What she said about suga sounded like it came straight off of a bts fan blog.
Speculating about idols' sexualities is weird and gross tbh, y'all really do sound like fujos.
No. 266404
>>266401Couldn't have said better.
>he was going to be an outcast from the rest of the idol industry anyway This is something which always surprises me. Idols are oversexualized, specially in male groups, it's like they always have to try to do ''something'' with other members, being touching, almost kissing, passing papers between them using their mouths…But actually being homosexual is frown upon, even if some people defend that in SK mentality is changing, truth is they're still people with closed minds, specially when it's something related to being non-heterosexual.
No. 266408
I'm the anon from
>>266271 the point of me asking the question wasn't to start an argument about who's a Fujo and who's not, it was to point out which idols are very obviously most likely apart of the LGBT community but aren't allowed to say anything to how homophobic the kpop industry is (like amber). There's nothing wrong with harmless speculation, get the sticks out of your asses jesus christ
>>266349
>heechulHe was actually openly gay at one point?? The debate between fans on whether he likes girls or not is amusing, he doesn't really hide that he likes dick
No. 266410
>>266394>then followed it up by saying she wanted to date themlearn to read
anyway, I'm surprised no one mentioned Jimin might be at least bisexual. Momo gives me non-straight vibes too, queerbaiting aside.
No. 266417
>>266410honestly a lot of twice members give me queer vibes but their main demographic seem to be otaku men and creepy uncles so it makes sense they’d act more ~yuri fanservice-y~ than a lot of other girl groups
you don’t see red velvet or blackpink queerbaiting like hell and they’re just as popular as twice, if not more
No. 266434
>>266426Wow they're so #woke for stanning a manufactured kpop girl group. Really sticking it to the system there
I'll never get why SJWs flock to kpop in the first place. The industry is even more regressive than America's. It's not that they
can't like pop music or anything, it's just confusing how they act like it's a revolutionary act.
No. 266438
>>266434>I'll never get why SJWs flock to kpop in the first place. The industry is even more regressive than America's. It's not that they can't like pop music or anything, it's just confusing how they act like it's a revolutionary act.exaaactly.
also loona fans didnt actually dox elon musk cause if you read the article his workplace and place of residence was already public information, but theyre acting like they did lmao
No. 266440
>>266434a lot of them fall for fanservice and think a group of girls pretending to kiss for attention is a group of progressive lesbians, so stanning a group with a lot of fanservice means you're a fan of people who're very pro gay. it's very easy for an idol to get asspats from those types of fans, they'll get treated like Susan B Anthony for saying girls don't have to cook sometimes.
being a fan of more traditionally 'cute' and pretty girlgroups is also a virtue signally thing now. they got mad at edgy 13 year old girls who'd say the only girl groups they liked were 2ne1 and 4minute so they cool thing is to do the opposite now. twice are powerful feminist heros and not liking grown women acting like sexy toddlers makes you very bad
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V has the ugliest fucking smile I've ever seen. Attractive people should be even more attractive when they smile. He looks like what racists do when they try to imitate Asians.
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>>266651She is/was said to be in a lesbian relationship, the rumours have gone back a few years
No. 266807
>>266479i think he does it to seem woke and deep. he knows fans get off on making him look like a liberal genius
j-hope is close friends with jo kwon and appeared in his "animal" performances before he debuted, so that's interesting
No. 266862
>>266843
>new one directionthe funny thing is most bts stans are former one direction fans. the timeline is literally:
>one direction goes on hiatus in 2016 with no sign of ever reuniting >the second most popular western male group, 5 seconds of summer, also goes on a long hiatus around the same time>tfw fans have no one to obsess over>in 2016 bts suddenly starts getting mainstream success>western fangirls are exposed to them and are quickly introduced to the world of kpop, abruptly decide to dedicate their lives to being koreaboos>bts gains a massive cancerous fanbase that's been growing ever since imo bts happened to get lucky due to timing. if there had been a new western group for people to obsess over then the fans wouldn't have turned their attention to bts/kpop in general. their popularity will die down eventually when "stans" get bored and/or someone else catches their eye
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Honestly where is the kawaii uguu in this? Am I blind or something? All of them just look like those fat faceless hentai dudes except with oddly colored bowlcuts.
No. 266878
>>266877Honestly this is one of the better pics of jimin I've seen.
There is just something off about his face that makes him nearly unbearable to look at, I just can't put my finger on what.
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>>266877don't knock the bowl cut, otherwise we'd have to look at his receding hairline
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>>266580SM's leaked schedule for 2018 has an f(x) cb. It seems like it's been mostly accurate (besides being a bit off), though I think it's a subunit or something?
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How badly are fans going to react when one of them starts dating
No. 266928
>>266912"it was obviously just marketing"
fucking christ this has gotta be a troll. no one can be this fucking stupid right?
No. 266962
>>266348I'd fucking bet money on those three, tbh. Also Wendy from RV, either bi (most probable) or lesbian.
They say that if you are a lesbian that want to meet a gg in Korea, you go to a Mamamoo concert. Not sure if true. Saged.
No. 266996
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>>266912>i wish i could kill him and keep his body>i didn't spend years focusing on them […] to see him saying thisIntervention for this girl when.
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Elina is now going into ASMR and twitch.
It’s sad to see her trying to pull faces after answering each question.
No. 267391
>>267319it's pretty funny how delusional armys are to think this song has any artistic integrity… they literally reused Hoseok's somewhat decent song and slapped a weak spanish beat and pt. 2 on it. The 'el mariachi' shit didn't even stir up as much controversy as I would have expected bc as soon as the sjw armys heard they were quick to protect it talking about 'now this is how you showcase cultural appreciation uwu! BTS did it way better than Gfriend 1!!1!1'
Anyways, the performance is horrible (as usual). First time I saw it I just wanted to know how tf did BTS degrade over time. At least their past performances and songs were enjoyable. Their newfound fame is definitely going to crash and burn.
Whilst I want to see it… i'm a fake army making money of "real" armys. My dignity is worth the cash.
No. 267430
>>267319them trying to pronounce those country names in english
triggers me hard.
also i saw an army saying the lyrics were so artful and deep and they sounded like a bad fanfic.
No. 267447
>>267435First songs were made by real producers, who might not make great music but at least know what's catchy.
Now, after gaining fame, suddenly they themselves are the artists who make super deep songs themselves - of course that's gonna sound like absolute shit.
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If bts ever actually breaks into the US market im ending it all
No. 267521
oh man i used to love kpop many moons ago. all of my friends loved it, so naturally i got into it too. i grew out of it once i hit college, but still heard gossip about it from my friends (who had relatives/friends working in the industry in korea). i love the drama that happens in kpop world but absolutely hate kpop itself now lmao. anytime i hear someone gushing over anything kpop-related i cringe so hard.
also
>>267470 i think it's possible. i've definitely walked into multiple american stores and have heard kpop playing. idk what group though, i don't know any that weren't created before 2014 kek
and it's been on the radio before here in SoCal
No. 267525
>>267470
>so unique>suits everyone's tastehow delusional
if they weren't korean and their songs would be performed by some western popstar/group, all army's would switch the radio channel on these songs
No. 267558
>>267424Yep. Drawing the members is the only fun I have in the grand scheme of things lmao
The fandom is a mess and the group is a mess. Most people do realize however that their fame is due to their dedicated fandom if it werent for that they'd still be in Korea. So, once the fandom dies do so does the group.
The American GP isn't interested in shitty idol music to hold BTS a float. (Although I could definitely see it happening for a little while with dumb fun albums like Wings or HYYH).
>>267483Commissions
No. 267569
BTS and their fandom have taken themselves to seriously. World domination? Every time I'm in a gc and someone mentions it I can't help but cackle.
They're literally a boy idol group meant to put on fake personas to adhere to their audiences' desires. Whilst they're making a shit ton of money, no doubt, they're work isn't meant to be taken in that extremely.
Idols are under strict contracts that forbid them from doing a lot of things until they make revenue. Even so, they still can't do much and that's what some fans need to realize when it comes to KPOP.
The American GP loves drama and KPOP is very secretive when it comes to it.
>>267563All they've got really is songwriting credits and a few producing ones if I can remember. Writing your own music really is nothing in America, no one cares about the songwriters. And if BTS were to go down the route of producing their own material with no help unlike a lot of people in the US, they'd collapse. Let's just say, Jungkook's magic shop on their newest album says a lot
When someone signs up for an idol company, most of them aren't there to make their own music, they're there for the chance of fame, money, and glory.
Or: They could be like V/Jin. Get in a company with no talent whatsoever bc they've got the "look" and can be molded into whatever the company would like.
No. 267756
>>267465I actually really liked Spring Day, since it seemed to be a genuinely meant song about suicide and that ferry tragedy. Sort of a "it gets better" thing.
But all the 13 year old kids shilling "omg it's so deep Rap Monster is such a poet guise XDD" ruined it for me. SAD.
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It looks like he unfollowed the account already, but a while ago kpop stans were accusing him of being a pedophile over an ig account.
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No. 267928
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>>267902But that account is basically a 3deep5u collection of high exposed gross pictures that mostly try to come off as edgy with some weird pictures sprinkled in. A lot of celebrities followed the account, probably when the pictures were tamer on their feed. Not being a stan, but its not an explicit page for pedos featuring kids. Its just some weirdo photographer who went to far.
No. 267971
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what on earth is wrong with mamamoo's recent faces/makeup? the eyebrows, hwasa's mouth.. i swear they didn't used to look this bad.
No. 268034
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>>267971they look so much better with lighter makeup
No. 268041
>>267966i'm right there with you anon. it became an obsession for me and i would check sites like asianjunkie and omona at least 5 times a day, even though i never actually "stanned" any groups.
which speaking of stanning, i've always found the idea of it exhausting. not that it isnt a thing for non k-pop acts but holy shit kpop fans take it to an extreme. imagine dedicating so much of your life to a group who probably will never know who you are. never understood that shit
No. 268108
>>268102too long, didnt watch
can you explain what they were 'scolded' about?
No. 268110
>>268108they often get scolded for laughing/fooling around too much
and there's one vlive where two of them were speaking english and the managers told them to stop behind the camera
No. 268138
>>268110those managers need to shove a stick up where the sun doesn't shine. nct has members as young as fucking 16. this kind of behavior is gross in general and directing it towards literal kids is especially revolting.
basic human decency aside, how retarded are they to think scolding members for normal shit like this (where fans can notice they're interfering, at that) will do their company any favors? as idols they're essentially selling their personality and using their quirks and silly antics to attract fans so trying to stifle that is idiotic even by kpop standards.
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>>268138The no english thing really makes no sense either since they're trying to push the international angle. The managers even get mad at them for reading dumb comments, do they just like embarrassing them or something? This is such harmless shit
No. 268179
>>268165Maybe the managers feel somehow diminished if a younger idol has better english skills than them?
I don't know, Korean come across as hyper competitive and super concious of age.
No. 268398
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>>268075That's from the i-fans, k-fans usually think she's ugly, chubby and too tanned. She started to gain a bit more popularity since she appeared on I live alone and made a collab with Loco, though. I mean, normal korean people would probably think she's pretty, but k-pop fans are another level of picky.
She looks leagues better with lighter make up, imho. She looks like an avarage simpleton korean girl, but I think it's for the best, the make up ages her so much.
No. 268466
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hwasa is also quite "western" with her nails and beat face, a real boner killer for many knetz
No. 268565
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lmao the fucking edits these underage bts fans make
can you get anymore embarassing
No. 268571
>>268564That's not 'refreshing', she looks like a typical insta thot - an ugly one.
>>268565>see starsHow cute
No. 268595
>>268571You sound kinda bitter. It's a good change of pace from the surgery trainwrecks and uncanny valley shit like
>>263820.
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>>267971Wheein's bangs in this pic should qualify as a hate crime (also her face looks edited in to me for some reason wtf)
No. 268672
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>>268668Yup, judging by the things that were said about them I'd also totally guess that anons want a piece of their asses; I mean who isn't into autistic manlets with plastic faces and the personality of a rock.
No. 268689
>>268668I get this feeling as well.
Also I think many girls just don't like female groups with large male fanbases. I know Twice makes some pretty shitty music, but you'd think they're pretty much a bunch of sleazy strippers judging by what some people here say about them.
Some anon here even posted that she liked Twice until she watched a fancam and noticed the audience was mostly male.
No. 268694
>>268668I disagree, I find that the people who shit on girl groups members' looks are or were obsessed with Korea's appearance culture particularly in regards to their standards for women and usually don't follow boy groups much at all.
>>268672I made the autistic taehyung edit in that pic and I think he's pretty cute as far as twinky idols go, I just don't take my interests that seriously and enjoy shitting on things I like for a laugh. and of course he acts like a fucking autist.
No. 268713
>>268466It's strange because I thought Koreans considered her sexy. There are some videos of male idols interacting/being around her that get kinda flustered, or stare at her legs.
I think she's refreshing to look at, she might not be the most beautiful girl in the world but at least she didn't make herself look uncanny valley like her bandmate gangnam unnie Solar
No. 268749
>>268748Lots of them!
But it's more common in male groups than in female groups.
No. 268753
>>268748I'd actually say most of them have at least one older member, you just can't see since they're styled like toddlers.
I think active girl groups with only adult members are: Mamamoo, Apink, Exid, Blackpink (?)
No idea about boy groups, Super Junior and BTS, I guess
No. 268820
>>268789same for me; i’m also from a country where everyone is on first-name basis unless it’s, like, in court or something.
i’ve been aware of the dynamics/hierarchy kpop idols have to adhere to for so long that it’s been normalized to me in the sense that it doesn’t surprise me anymore but it’s like growing used to reading a fantasy novel or something, like you know how it works and what to expect but it’s still surreal and something you absolutely cannot relate to
>>268794ntayrt but my country has the same thing with the lack of a formality/age hierarchy and pretty much everyone being on first-name basis by default, and i’m from sweden.
No. 268839
>>268820>swedenOh, interesting. I'm from the US and we typically use honorifics for teachers and doctors but not bosses. Can't imagine schoolkids calling their teachers by their first name lol though it's really not that weird, I'm just not used to it.
And describing the Korean hierarchy system as a fantasy novel is pretty spot on, when I was younger and first learning about Korean culture I was really thrown off just by oppa/unnie/hyung/noona. Like solely addressing somebody with specific word based on their gender and age and closeness to you is pretty alien a concept.
No. 268845
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the vma nominations are out and bts are nowhere to be seen. did one irrelevant award show gas them up so much that they really thought they had a chance at any show that isn't fan voted? i can't wait for the wrist slitting when they get shut out at the grammys
>best selling POC artists
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>>268845>use their following for their own gain>MTV>#1 go to channel for music since the 80’sLol okay
No. 268918
>>268869The groups they are talking about are Why Don't We and Pretty Much, both nominated in Push Artist of the Year
>>268828Once there was a time when Jimin became legitimately angry at a 14 yo when he was 18, because the boy was showing him how to clean a plane correctly as he was doing it wrong (this was in America). Why does Korea care so much about age
No. 268934
>>268918I actually remember watching that, and being put off by how savagely they attacked that little boy.
He was just 14, yet already working. He had to instruct Jimin and Jungkook, but instead of working they only played around.
Then he told them to do it properly and they immediatly came up with their shitty age superiority.
The worst thing was, he simply asked whether they are brothers, Jimin looked pissed and then hundreds commented what a racist, spoiled whitey he is; when in fact he's much younger and already has a proper work ethic. But no, all westerners are ignorant (how dare that boy not know about Korea's age system!) and poor sm0l BTS are busting their asses open…
No. 268988
>>268944Jimin is fucking repulsive. Damn.
I used to feel sorry for him getting called fat and ugly and worthless all the time thinking he was just a nice kid with no backbone. Genuinely didn’t think this of him, naive as that may be.
No. 269001
>>268988Honestly he's such a spoiled dickhead but manages to distracte his fans from it by playing up how insecure he is.
He was completely insufferable in burn the stage. All he did was cry about how he didn't feel good enough. And his fan girls ate that shit up. It's ridiculous
Him and Suga seem to have a good friendship and it would surprise me if they really do, since they both seem to be lazy and entitled.
No. 269008
>>269003It's hard to tell with J-hope bc he's fairly private.
Jungkook seem like a decent person but also super sheltered and naive.
No. 269015
>>268934>>269004i feel like it goes to show how someone's culture really effects their personality. like, to us it seems like the most dickhead thing, but to his korean fans (and international fans balls deep in korean culture worship) it seems completely justified. if he had acted like that to a kid in korea, even more so. they actually think people who are younger than them have no right to tell them what to do, even if they are more experienced/knowledgeable than them.
>>268988i still feel sorry for him for that, maybe because i'm sensitive to these insults.
No. 269020
>>269014apparently he's made friends with a few other idols his age. i see yugyeom mentioned often as his friend. seems kinda fucked up that he hasn't had friends his age till now though.
apart from that, he also seems to be very conceited and think really highly of himself. probably because everyone had been calling him the "golden youngest" and for so many years and he's been getting so much positive attention for being a trainee from such a young age.
something i do appreciate though, is that in burn the stage, jungkook was dangerously exhausted from the heat in one of the shows and almost fainted a few times throughout it, but continued to perform like nothing was wrong and as i understand people didn't even notice and only knew when the show went up. in contrast with jimin's whiny ass that seemed pretty commendable.
No. 269034
>>268944I've never been into kpop and only read this thread for laughs and this was my first glimpse of these guys on a video, and jesus christ, even without that scene, they act like morons. People really find them desirable?!
They're legit ugly, dress like elementary school kids and act like 13 year old fuckboys who have 1 braincell left. What the fuck. They're making Jake Paul look smart.
Yellow fever is one hell of a drug.
No. 269043
>>269018It also pisses me off that their fans act like asking them whether they have a gf or whether they're interested in somebody is a big no-no, since BTS "fully concentrates on their art".
I feel like spending too much time with kpop stunts you mentally. They're all over 20, there's nearly nowhere in this world there asking an adult male whether he's in a relationship is considered rude, yet their fans absorb so much from that k-industry purity bullshit, that they forget how normal humans live.
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>>269042What is that orange outfit with the safety stripes?
At least I know where they got their inspiration for that outfit from lol
No. 269061
>>269057Literally though. All their outfits for Anpanman are inspired by working class uniforms, because of the song meaning. I wonder how underpaid their stylist is.
Does anyone think it's weird Sulli and IU are very close friends? I wonder if IU is secretly as slutty and fucked up as Sulli, while putting up that sweet innocent facade. At least Sulli stopped giving a shit about her image and went full child-star-turned-wild
No. 269065
>>269061the irony though at them acting like ungrateful little shits in
>>268944 because they had to work a minimum wage job for an hour. my sides
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I wonder if we'll ever get the K-pop version of this. The various scandals they've had have garnered a lot of interest, however, instead of their companies capitalizing on it and using the publicity to their advantage, they punish the idols. Korean netizens are just as hungry as the average Westerner for drama and scandals, but they'd never admit it. Western fans throw a fit when their teen idol dates another teen idol, but the interest extends the longevity and profitability of everyone involved. Are publicity stunts and PR relationships the next step for K-pop? Or is it not possible within their culture?
No. 269132
>>269096>>269124Well, but in the rest of the world interviewers don't know and frankly, I don't see how or why they should.
Their fans are the ones who throw a hissy fit because "poor Rapmonster looked uncomfy" - which is simply ridiculous. They are the guests, they don't bother with learning English and then you expect some interviewer who probably interviews hundreds of people that he should know every little detail of another country's culture…?
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why are these bitches so goddamn easy to extract money from? im triggered, i should have been a kpop ceo
No. 269172
>>269003I admit I haven’t been following these threads very closely so I may be missing something that has already been touched upon on here, but I don’t think Taehyung is a genuinely shitty person, just really, really stupid and socially inept. While most BTS members seem to be scumbags based on evidence in these threads I don’t think he has the capacity to be malicious, just really ignorant. Not that it’s an excuse, I just don’t think he’s rotten like Jimin apparently is.
I also agree with
>>269008 about Jungkook just being sheltered/naive. Glad to know he’s getting new friends in that ‘97-liner chat.
No. 269190
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Jimin really isn't cute, even when they blurred the fuck out of him like they did here. There's something wrong with his face. And jfc those lenses… His eyes are already brown, why did he even need to wear them?
No. 269203
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>>269190Here he looks kinda cute, but I get what you mean. Is it the nose? or the botox lips? Or how far his lips are, maybe I'm just being super nit picky.
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>>269203Even rap monster looks semi-cute sometimes, that's not saying much. Everything about his face just looks wrong. I think his twinky manlet body is cute and his hair, skin, and complexion usually looks nice, but his lips, nose, philtrum, /ｎaｓｏｌaｂiaｌ ｆｏｌｄｓ/, face shape, face placement(?), etc. are all off.
>>269217Agree that they probably only like him because he's uwu smol, but he's not uglier than jin. Jin is upsetting to look at imo.
No. 269236
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BTS are fug, the end.
Actually is so hard to find an attractive male asian celebrity, fuck. Is it because they don't give a fuck if men are handsome or not? Wether it's Korea, Japan or China, there are lots of cute/beautiful idols/actresses, but for male celebrities it's just so hard to find one. Idk, maybe they're just not my taste, or maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.
I also think the korean makeup style doesn't help, all men wearing red lip tint it just looks weird
Pic related is Takeshi Kaneshiro, he looks a lil busted nowadays but he used to be damn fine
No. 269237
>>269236whether*
sage for grammar
No. 269239
>>269222iirc jin was originally supposed to be an actor and they put him in the group for fuck knows what reason
why they decided to put an aspiring k-drama actor in a 3edgy5me wannabe hiphop group i have no idea
his acting is alright from what i’ve seen, though given it’s for k-drama it’s not saying much
No. 269278
>>269225i guess beauty really is subjective. i kinda dig jimin's busted face lmao
i guess it's like how some people find benedict cumberbatch attractive, it's unfathomable to me, but some people are into him. maybe jimin is like him lmao
No. 269290
>>269278I mean, Jimin isn't conventionally ugly like Blubberbutt. His facial features are just off in an uncanny valley-ish way.
His neck is fucking weird too but I feel like an overly nitpicky asshole for bringing that up. I can still see why people find him attractive.
>>269282Lbr, the only reason why anyone liked blubberbutt was because of sherlock. Any other answer outside of "I have a degradation fetish and the thought of fucking an ugly old man turns me on" is straight up a lie.
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>>269290Im the same anon, but instead of his neck its his fucking lips. Something about the discoloration on his top lip drives me crazy. It looks like he has a chocolate milk mustache 24/7.
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>>269321Gosh I usually like kissy lips on men (ala Tom hardy) but Jimin and Jin's lips just look so disgusting to me, idek why, they too soft I guess? Jin's lips look like they're about to burst open sometimes and it creeps me out.
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>>269334I don't know how people still claim he's all natural, he clearly does have lip injections, comparing these 2 pictures. I don't know why though, as his lips aren't actually that small
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>>269341another pre debut pic
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those bts-mascot-whatever things are on messenger i’m so damn tired
No. 269366
>>269222honestly I don't think so, he does have that idol-look that companies love so I have no trouble believing he was street-scouted seeing as street-scouting is pretty common.
>>269236>Is it because they don't give a fuck if men are handsome or not?it's just different standards of beauty. I agree with you on the lip tint thing, it looks really bad. especially when they put it on celebrities with tiny-ass lips kek.
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>>269376oh stop bitching anon. BTS is fun to hate on, from their weird looking asshole idols, to their shitty overrated music and lyrics, to their clinically insane fan base. if you want to post about other groups, go ahead, but personally the only idol group im more than surface familiar with is BTS.
No. 269397
>>269376The reason we shit on bts is, because they're easy to follow, since they and their fans are literally everywhere.
Most of us just don't want to invest the time to actually 'research' about other lesser known or new groups.
No. 269425
>>269402he's there for his 'visuals' lol
kinda weird considering he's ugly as hell
No. 269428
>>268165late but they weren't being scolded for speaking english
they were inadvertently promoting apple, which is a no no in south korea
No. 269432
>>269414lol the AAOOOW! at the end really makes this
>>269429Jackson's kinda cute and charismatic (helps that he actually can speak a language I know lol) but the rest are forgettable. His solo stuff is horrible lol Fendyman's lyrics were a mess.
No. 269449
>>269429How was he able to keep his natural jaw? It looks so manly compared to many other idols. Whatever new kpop group or korean instagram models you look at, they have these ridiculous dorito chins now. Wtf is attractive about that?
>>269414The comments are sensible for once, I'm pleasantly surprised. They laugh at him without making stupid excuses. If you watch any bad MR Removed, there's always lots of comments justifying the bad singing with "he/she is focusing on the dancing", "b-b-but they are improving!", "the haters should try to sing and dance at the same time", etc.
No. 269455
>>269454That reminds me that on suga's mixtape he has a song called 'so far away' but then came out to say that he ment for it to be 'so FALL away' but didn't realize he wrote and produced the whole song with the wrong word. Like he couldn't he fucked to check to make sure his English was right?
They should just stick to Korean if they don't speak English.
No. 269456
>>269432I feel bad cause I he rejected a scholarship and quit fencing for this. He always looks really happy when he's fencing, he was good at it too…
>>269449I don't know but I hope no one ever touches it.
V-lines are creepy
No. 269466
>>269453some of the songs just have a good beat/vibe. It's hard to
really get into hip-hop in a language I don't speak since I can't understand the lyricism/wordplay though.
Also just because American hip-hop is superior doesn't mean people can't also enjoy hip-hop from other countries, that's ridiculous.
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>>269504wow…his stans are going to reach for the stars to defend him even though hes clearly in the wrong
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>>269509They're trying say that due to the suffix of the word that it was more of a term of endearment, like Jimin essentially calling Jungkook a cute dark-skinned person due to his tan.
But alot of Koreans are saying that while the suffix does usually indicate a term of endearment, that the word Jimin used is an exception and always has a negative/racist connotation.
No. 269536
>>269472dude I primarily listen to American hip-hop, I literally said it's
superior. learn to read lol. It's just fun to branch out. I listen to other non-Korean foreign hip-hop artists as well.
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>>269511Remember when we talked about wanting bts to have a controversy?
I just went to twitter and there are 1000s defending him; they could literally do anything.
>it was 4 years ago!>it means cute! He wants to be tan!>let's clear the jimin search tags with angel jimin, hardworking jimin…Maybe get netizenbuzz or somebody to translate this. It's clearly the same word they use for Wiz now.
No. 269577
>>269562It's hilarious how obsessed K-pop musicians and fans (and some Korean people in general) are with black people and their music/culture, considering how disrespectful and delusional they are toward them ("Black people don't like Koreans because they are JEALOUS!" Like…I'm pretty sure a lot of these same people do black people's nails and run crappy corner stores selling weave when they immigrate….Not much to be jealous of, chill). Are they that uncreative? Why can't they just stick to copying Japan?
The cherry on top of this whole controversy is Jimin wearing a shirt with black children on it in the same video he used the slur, lmao.
No. 269603
>>269562this is bullshit for sure, but it WAS 4 years ago… this milk too old for me /sigh
when's one of them gonna grope a girl at a club or something and give us something fresh
No. 269606
>>269600If they're so woke and their company so nice, then they surely could have said something. Afterall it was bad business.
I just wonder why nobody stopped them. There are signs around it, surely also in Korean, so how could anybody not notice that this isn't okay?
No. 269684
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>>269672They're trying their very best to downplay his dick sucking lips.
No. 269756
>>269414I'm late, but: I used to think he was handsome a few years ago, maybe during call me baby era. Then all of a sudden he became busted as fuck, Idk what happened, late puberty maybe? Also his face is so asymmetrical it gives me cancer
It also seems like he's a bit of an asshole
No. 269765
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>>269756His face mirrored is something.
No. 269768
>>269526i hate having to feel this cynical but at this point jimin could probably molest an infant and ratmys would try to find a way to make it the child/parents’ fault
they attack any member from any other group for breathing wrong but with their oppars everything is always everyone else’s fault
No. 269777
>>269773But aren't there other chinese idols who do the uwu soft boi shit?
Btw anyone know other male idols that are masculine? I literally can't think of anyone
No. 269804
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>>269777Siwon, which is funny bc im 90% sure that he's gay (the type to marry a woman and never admit it).
No. 269854
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why did they post this? he looks awful
No. 269857
>>269854he looks like he has a fever, or about to sneeze.
my friend is absolutely obsessed with him and scarily possessive. poor girl
No. 269860
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>>268565someone make them stop
No. 269884
File: 1532076020902.jpg (12.66 KB, 203x243, 3434.JPG)
>>269860Is his facial expression supposed to be sexy ??
you'd think it's a parody kek
No. 269911
File: 1532088054114.jpg (230.38 KB, 750x1142, tumblr_p2vxrlWl9D1x2itlso1_128…)
fake bts snapchats made me discover a whole new world of cringe
No. 269912
File: 1532088185377.jpg (Spoiler Image,54.14 KB, 546x643, aaah.JPG)
oh no
No. 269914
File: 1532088610582.jpg (70.28 KB, 753x1024, dc127b0714c15c1d44f6dc0eb93bc3…)
>>269913No that's V's ass.
No. 269921
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2017 or not this is gold
No. 270072
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they can't keep getting away with this
No. 270076
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>>270072Oh yes, the face everybody only dreams their partner makes after they’ve died after hours and hours of excruciating pain.
No. 270094
File: 1532147344136.png (203.61 KB, 512x484, 1508568915271.png)
>>269912curse upon you and your family, anon
No. 270096
File: 1532147606229.gif (978.4 KB, 154x154, 887687698768.gif)
>>270072>Um okay ..this is gold
No. 270116
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I don’t understand how anyone can find male kpop idols attractive when 95% of them are built like this. Don’t forget padding lmao. Not even talking about their hideous faces which not even plastic surgery could save. Ugly, just ugly. Legit judging every person who finds kpop dudes hot
No. 270124
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This is my favorite picture. They all look like Bratz dolls next to Ivanka.
No. 270131
>>270124Those jackets aren't doing them any favors either, what is their stylist doing?
>>270116There are a few I find hot tbh but most really overdo the plastic surgery or look 12 (or both)
No. 270141
>>270124Thanks anon, made my day.
Thinking back to all those articles about how supposedly tall, long legged and small faced they are… kek
Just look at their shoes, even the outside of the sole is already that thick, imagine what's inside… I bet non of them even reach 180cm.
>>270136https://www.google.de/amp/xiuminpanntranslations.tumblr.com/post/103856478373/141128-xiumins-actual-face/amp>His face is really small, and his eyes fill up half his face. He’s also really pale and super babyish. ㅠㅜ>His face is really small, and his chin is sharp, hoohttps://www.kpopstarz.com/articles/84007/20140316/hong-suk-chun-picture-with-exo-si-woomin-face-size-ratio-1-3.htm No. 270147
File: 1532171991980.jpg (259.71 KB, 1000x765, IE002292430_PHT.jpg)
With CL
No. 270149
>>270147>>270124I'm shook.
I feel we need to say that Ivanka does have a particularly small face since she barely have a jaw / chin but still…
No. 270150
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>>270149I'd say the size of her face looks completely normal next to her family
No. 270153
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>>270151>this i why i cringe when asians claim to be more neotenousA proportionally big head is a neotenous trait Anon…
No. 270222
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The editing on some idols' selfies is so funny. Whitewashing, blurring the skin…
No. 270260
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>>270222Here are some worse ones since I was too lazy to find them on my phone (i didnt edit any of these, someone legit looked at them and thought "yeah that's okay to post)
No. 270264
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>>270222I just picked the newest ones on twice's page tbh there are probably worse ones. they overdo the filter so so much (or their manager does? i doubt they post the pictures themselves)
No. 270280
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the filter on this one just looks weird as fuck to me lol
No. 270751
File: 1532295373064.png (Spoiler Image,2.65 MB, 750x1334, 46061701-C89C-4CB7-A47A-5FD426…)
so this was what i was met with when i opened up youtube and it made me think of this thread immediately
sage for shitposting
No. 270993
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rapmon looks like fucking ET
No. 271216
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>>270264I really don't understand Korea's boner for Tzuyu. That's not surprising since I don't understand Korea's beauty standards at all but oh boy do they look for some unpleasant looking people to drool over.
No. 271303
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>>270076ugh his face is so fucking gross
i hate seokjin so much, hes so ugly and talentless, cant dance cant sing and hes too old to be in an idol group, he was like 25 when they were doing the whole schoolboy schtick ffs
i 100% believe his family paid his way in
sage for tard sperging
No. 271317
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Why do they take it so seriously? Why do they invest so much energy into stuff like this? Even their oppars and unnires don't care this much
No. 271334
>>271216she's cute, but she mostly just stands out next to the other girls in twice who look weirder the longer you look at them. is nayeon a visual or just like a 'face' of the group? because her bloated rat face and lopsided hip pads make tzuyu look even better by comparison
imo she's the only one that looks just as pretty with or without the cheerleader effect of having 9 girls there, the rest all look either more weird or more bland when they're by themselves
No. 271369
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>>271349she looks quite attractive imo, but then again is just a side profile
No. 271384
File: 1532470819787.jpg (96.81 KB, 800x902, jin.jpg)
>>271349well, his father is meh looking
No. 271925
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im dying
No. 271932
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>oppars
>I would like my husband back
No. 271951
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>Style icon
No. 271961
>>271915Korea-fag here
Stupid k-boo fans don’t realize that A) this guys only a candidate, he’s got no real power. He’s pandering to the younger crowd. And B) the original article was written in the tone that they should have the original exemptions and was drawing more attention to that. The bts comment was an add on to pander. Nobody was even suggesting making it happen for real.
No. 271962
>>271951Damn…. That's some crimson chin action right there
Who is that? Cause he's giving me strong ass cat lady vibes.
I seriously wonder what goes through their head when they get some jacked up ps. That is, if they do realize it's jacked.
No. 271965
>>271962its g-dragon from bigbang.
why why why do so many koreans chop half their jawbone off. it looks so unnatural and just horrible. add in the pointy chin fillers they are so fond of and you end up with a straight up alien
No. 271967
>>271965>why why why do so many koreans chop half their jawbone off. it looks so unnatural and just horrible.every time i see taeyong i think he looks so strange because his jaw is so fucked from the front. i think his surgeon was going for that anime character look but it looks so alien
sm in general really overdoes the plastic surgery
No. 271978
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>>271967Taeyong looks like he has a different face everytime I see him. The Brittany Venti eyes and the scar are like the only things all of his incarnations have in common.
No. 272276
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>>272274
tbh i don't think that rumor is true, in other pics he doesn't have those marks. surprisingly though armies were the ones spreading it
No. 272283
>>272274oh no, i'm rich and famous and everyone loves me
>>272276lol if true. going into overdrive after the jimin fiasco to get positive attention for their misunderstood suicidal bbys?
No. 272284
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>>272279look at some pictures of him in the beginning of dna era compared to now (pretty sure he got something done, but specifically the weight) and his face looks so different, it's insane. idols lose and gain weight so quickly, i wonder how it affects their health
No. 272341
…How are you all not tired of talking about BTS? Even if it's to shit on them, I can't stand seeing these fuckers everywhere, let's change the subject a bit pls:
http://www.asianjunkie.com/2018/07/25/kaeuns-produce-48-individual-fancam-being-flooded-with-hate-comments-on-naver/So apparently, Lee Gaeun from produce 48 is getting a ton of hate for being "too old" or whatever bullshit. But of course, it's totally fine for 14 year olds to do things like vid related
No. 272357
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>>272341I'm not surprised. can we also talk about the white girl in super junior's devil mv being 14??
No. 272422
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i'm convinced pledis sent kyla to the us just so she could lose weight kek. if she never returns or ends up leaving the group, it's probably because she didn't manage to lose weight and live up to the "1.67 cm and 40 kg" kpop ideal.
No. 272523
>>272376Yeah I stanned them hard until I saw that shit. They were my only real fandom for a long time.
That was so fucked up. Weird to see it being brought up now though when this is such old news and SuJu is no longer relevant at all.
No. 272529
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>>272357Yes, I remember that and it angers me so much.
Koreans with their "westerners look so mature" doesn't make treating little girls like this okay (same with Somi). Without filters and shit you can very well see their age difference.
Korea, Japan and China regularly exploit poor underage models, yet we are the gross whities fetishizing innocent Asians…
No. 272850
>>272838You can bet it was
>spend years "training", only having this one plan>manage to get on that show only to have everything canceled>no education, unemployed and in debt…
No. 272933
>>272822She's not back and no one really knows where she is. the only information that we got was back in January when her brother was in a big controversy on twitter
http://kpoptimeout.tumblr.com/post/169222292639/updated-pristin-kylas-brother-luke-massiesapologies for the tumblr link but i couldn't find a place that would sum this mess up better
No. 272984
>>272980There's tons of those types of blogs on tumblr. I can't imagine why anyone would want to donate to her.
>>272969I feel like those types of people exist but I can't think of where they would be. Most of the time fans show how obsessive they are is when dating comes up. The only person I can think of is the owner of that kpop and black women blog. But she doesn't focus on one idol.
No. 273184
>>273007Me too.
To me Blackpink are just so unlikeable. I get bitchy vibes from all of them, they're untalented, they don't have a personality, just a failed copy of 2NE1 who unlike them were actually likeable and had a personality.
Even the name of their group is cringey.
No. 273544
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>>273462"actually worthy", sure anon.
No. 273552
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>>273545 can you, like, point out the punk
No. 273654
>>273609nah. i mean the sex pistols were created because malcolm mclaren wanted a british equivalent of a new york dolls. parts of the band might have already existed but they really played up their rebellious image.
also the various "rule sets" of punk fashion and style…kinda of ironic.
why is why i said "some aspects" anon
No. 273668
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>>273545Yeah, this is metal inspired. Sorry, anon, nothing punk about this.
Anyway.
Did JooE mess with her face again? She looks somehow different (better I guess), but I can't pinpoint exactly waht.
No. 273768
>>273668honestly, i dont see a difference but probably. she's talked about getting a nose job before on a radio show (i think? or some variety thing)
>>273743>13 hot girls around hernancy was born in 2000 anon…
No. 273816
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>>273668>>273743Her face may be kinda weird but she looks pretty on stage to me. What I really don't understand about Momoland is wtf Daisy's doing there, she's neither beautiful nor talented in any way, her rapping is atrocious.
No. 273848
>>273668i think she looks pretty in that particular thumbnail. like
>>273816 i think daisy looks far worse than jooe; there’s just something uncanny about it
momoland in general is kind of homely by kpop standards barring nancy, yeonwoo and jane. at least they’ve dumped those hideous tutus finally.
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>>273816Daisy has a weird ass face, sometimes she looks good and sometimes she looks fucking weird and off, she needs to find a new surgeon
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No. 273883
>>273873>>273874Wew. This girl is giving me mac from
mac and me vibes.
No. 273974
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>>273966Looking at her predebut pictures and she looks so much better, can they keep her hair black?
No. 273976
>>273974Her predebut plastic surgery pics
She did her whole face and she still looks unattractive. She should keep her hair colored she won't stand out at all with black
No. 274007
>>273966she looks really uncanny to me and i can't place why. is her skin too botoxed tight or something? i don't find her ugly at all but she looks a little weird to me and not really in a weird pretty way
also, have you ever watched momoland's faces when they dance, especially the popular one that isn't jooe or nancy? they try really hard to pull sexy faces doing meme dances and it's awkward. also, nancy looks like how yukapon looks these days.
No. 274036
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jooe’s uggo-ness and le quirky behavior is one of the reason momoland is semi relevant
making her look pretty or at least average is a bad business move
No. 274093
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>>274012>>274054Tbh I don't think Koreans care much about ears, ear pinning is pretty unpopular in east asia prob because they see eyes as more "
problematic". One of the rappers from exo has very pronounced ears and he still has them. Though Korea is very look conscious so maybe earpinning will be a thing later on
I'm very confused by her face. Botched ps??
No. 274164
>>274093She’s looks like a knock-off Irene with her hair down. Probably the editing here, though.
Momoland’s stylists seem insistent on making the members look ugly (the bleached high-ponytails on JooE, emphasizing Nancy’s ears, the group leader getting the most unflattering short haircuts, etc.). Crayon Pop was pretty similar, with the memetic music and making the girls look dowdy.
No. 274213
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referring to bts as "artists that speak for their generation"
anyways why do i feel like this is going to become the new "bts copies exo!!!" thing
No. 274223
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>>274216the fake deep, borderline tumblr-pandering shtick is all they have going for them since they don't even have one member above a 7/10
No. 274377
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>>274354>sad screenshot is sadThat nose is nightmare fuel
No. 274391
>>274354i know people are gonna reply to me saying its their own fault and i shouldnt feel bad
but i feel really fucking bad for all of them
No. 274420
>>274415The last few post in this thread:
>about botched psThe last few posts in the other thread:
>I want to make [insert idol name] cryBut yeah, totally no difference, anon.
No. 274480
File: 1533082265418.png (19.13 KB, 578x192, khy.png)
>>274471sounds like you'd love to read some more
No. 274491
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>>274480>>274481Drugs are one hell of a drug…
No. 274559
I'm
>>274415.
>>274440 is right, that is what I meant.
No. 274595
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https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/31/bts-star-v-mourning-grandfathers-death-7780674/amp/Why do they always do pic related? So they think that's gonna be a good image for their favorite group?
No. 274627
>>274624yea, that person isnt trying to make a good impression, they are being as purposefully inflammatory as possible.
>>274626i know people have all sorts of strange fetishes and generally i just ignore it, but ffs, you shouldnt involve a real living breathing person in it. these idols may be commodified but they are still human and should be treatest with respect
No. 274638
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No. 274682
https://twitter.com/type_nuIl/status/1023761351401910272imagine fangirling over "joonie hitting it from the back" at 40 years old. I'm still baffled that so many people find him attractive.
>>274652Well they've been releasing content pretty steadily for the past 1/2 years. Even though loona has a lot of loud fans it feels like they don't have that many fans altogether.
No. 274882
>>274682i get maybe liking him for his rapping (overrated but hey its my opinion) but really this is sad
>>274652how does this work? loona has been releasing music for a while it feels like and garnering fans, will they be considered equal to other rookie groups who have only released like one song and then debuted in terms of awards when they finally do debut? that feels unfair
No. 275126
File: 1533199475371.gif (3.49 MB, 400x273, download.gif)
The Korean fans are catching on, while the international fans are still defending their
queen…
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/enter-talk-reason-why-people-call-sana.html?m=1 No. 275150
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>>274972i want to die
pic related
No. 275152
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ditto
No. 275154
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pic dump
No. 275157
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someone drank the kool aid
No. 275163
>>275152this one specifically lol
searching "Taehyung is a genius" on twitter is going to be a new pastime, it's a gold mine.
are bts shippers as bad as eunhaes were yet?
No. 275178
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>>275157Taehyung's voice is actual shit and I will never understand how his fans are hearing the complete opposite of what I'm hearing. I hear a 60 year old man who smokes 20 packs a day and they hear a God.
No. 275185
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why cant these people just admit they like a manufactured boy band because of their catchy songs and cute boys. why do they always have to delude themselves? i dont have a problem with people listening to kpop, its when they are so in denial about it that i find ridiculous.
No. 275199
>>275126you mean PANN is catching on which is irrelevant. Sana's fans are 90% young men and they love that shit and she knows it.
>>275154>non well-known songsMy sides
No. 275217
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>>275195I somewhat like nct but my eyes bleed when I see Taeyong. How does he live like that? Doesn't it affect your health when you reduce your jawline and widen your eyes that much?
No. 275230
i hate hearing people talking about vocal technique in kpop. no matter what they say it's always just wank to make their faves look good. they use vague terms like 'stable' whenever they feel like it, pick and choose when someone is straining and just insist any bad performance is because it's not in their range. the worst is the fake concern to cover up that they just don't like someone. "she has bad technique and is ruining her voice!! nodules!!" doesn't mean shit when you don't know what bad technique actually is. any singing can cause nodules if you sing too much. whitney houston, freddie mercury and adele all damaged their voices from singing too much. if only they were as stable as taehyung oppa
>>275217i thought taeyong was more or less natural and just weird looking? he looks way closer to his old photos than most of nct. and i thought that was the joke about him being jaejoong 2.0 when taeyong is natural and jaejoong's had his jaw, eyes and nose done multiple times
No. 275235
>>275217he only got his nose done imo. you plastic surgery fags are too much.
>Doesn't it affect your health>widen your eyesLUL
No. 275236
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>>275227>>275230yeah I just assumed it's shaved but looking at his old pictures it may be just his face
No. 275247
>>275213All of them are weak, I wasn’t saying he was good. Just better than the other 4.
This is an interesting read that really put BTS’ vocal line into perspective for me:
https://kpopvocalanalysis.net/2016/08/04/bts-vocal-analysis-v/amp/They’ve made analyses of Jungkook and Jimin too. Nice and critical but objective. I’m sure a few ratmys cried over those articles.
No. 275283
>>275178taehyung also sucked in hwarang, he can't act, sing, or really dance (and in wings era it was especially noticeable). granted, hwarang was already pretty bad, but still
can idols like joy stop getting cast in main leads when they suck at acting just because they're in a popular? all the "visual" actresses like iu, suzy, and yoona aren't that great either
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ugh
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>>275344He’s like an unattractive ryu junyeol
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List of the richest idols
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2018/08/dispatchs-list-of-idols-who-come-from.html?m=1Mark GOT7
Tzuyu Twice
Chenle NCT
Umji Gfriend
Kyuhyun Suju
Nickhun 2PM
Sooyoung SNSD
Park Hyungshik ZEA
Siwon Suju
Blackpink:
>jennie's family owns a porsche predebut, ppl said her mom owns a hospital. Lisa's father is world class chef… And Jisoo's dad works in entertainment company, even doniconi weekly idol know his father..I don't get why Koreans think idols being from a rich family is something positive - imo that just confirms that they didn't get to debut because of talent or at least good looks.
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>>275503
Are you a bot or what?
No. 275889
>>275843Maybe. Taehyung probably also knows other artists as well as photographers. I remember his fans getting pissed at him for posting his favorite photographer's work (Ryan McGinley) which was nude, and he promptly deleted it lmao
Tell them bitches to bend over, they sure as hell will, especially Jungkook who doesn't want to get his tattoos, stretched ears, piercings, and baggy ass pants anymore all bc his "fans" said so.
But, the only member who doesn't give a shit about what the fans think is Taehyung. I believe he said something on Vlive close to that, which makes me wonder if he's still putting on a persona like the other members.
No. 275895
>>275500most of the comments were bashing them…
and idol music has nothing to do with talent and koreans know that. its literally meant for teens and uncle/auntie fans to become obsessed with
No. 275904
>>275889Ryan McGinley isn't some underground artiste. He's basically a celebrity photographer at this point.
>the only member who doesn't give a shit about what the fans think is TaehyungTaehyung does the most fanservice, hello?
No. 275911
>>275904Ik he isn't some underground artiste. I was just highlighting the fact his fans started bitching.
And you clearly forgot Jimin existed lmao
When it comes to fan service the whole group does it. I wasn't saying Taehyung doesn't do it. He just doesn't suck his fan's dick when it comes to his physical appearance and the shit he likes.
No. 275914
>>275843>>275889from some ET article:
What do each of you love about yourselves?
Jin: I love my face and how it looks, which I appreciate very much.
Jimin: I love my attitude towards work and tendency for perfection.
V: My newly discovered talent to shoot great photos.
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>>270072sage for stupidity but this pic gave me a giggle and reminded me of this
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Daaaamn CL got fat
No. 275999
>>275997probably not but itd be funny, i remember her liking or rting a joke about escaping yg lmao
>>275993everyone in bts is ugly to me. you think jungkook would flop when jhope's garbage album mixtape thing (idk or really care) did so well?
No. 276059
I don't hate Taehyung and Jungkook, but I think their fans overhype them and I don't understand why their company markets them the way they do.
>>275999He's not a bad performer, but I don't think his solo work will get attention outside the BTS fandom unless he comes up with original and interesting songs. I guess the next mixtape will be Jungkook's, so we'll see.
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>>276133She looks horrible
No. 276595
>>276581it's probably because she went to US.
i can't wait for her new single hello pizzas.
No. 276600
>>2765812ne1 reunion tracklist:
1. Fire (up the oven for some pizzas)
2. It Hurts (Ate too much version) 3. I Am the Best (At competitive eating)
No. 276623
>>276494Lmao…
You wish that were the case. YG is a shit company and the worst thing about him is that he's a fucking misogynist. He could care less about Blackpink (which he does) and doesn't realize that they could actually hit it big all because they're females.
Ikon is a shit group with shit music. At least Blackpink's music has potential and is listenable, even if they dont produce their own shit.
I don't really care for either groups, but I do have a burning hatred for YG. The only reason they're whining is bc Blackpink was formed by a fucking idiot misogynist who doesn't realize the shit ton of money they could make.
When it comes to Kpop no one bats an eye at girl groups and if they do it doesn't last very long. And, that's where Blackpink could have been different.
No. 276634
>>276626>most peopleMaybe if this was years ago. A lot of Kpop fans are only familiar with the third wave acts nowadays.
I get your point, though, but I don’t think it invalidates what the other anon is saying. Girl groups tend to have more general public appeal (like hitting digital sales or Korean streaming points) if you compare midtier or rookie girl groups to other midtier/rookie boy groups. But even mid-tier boy groups can get rabid fanbases that will support them for fucking years, if not decades. Most girl groups are lucky to age out by the time they’re past their mid-twenties, which is only if they’ve got a primarily female fanbase. It’s like girl groups have more listeners but less wholly dedicated fans than boy groups do (unless we’re talking about extreme cases like SNSD, Twice, EXO, BTS).
Boy groups do tend to dominate most western Kpop discussion (not surprisingly, considering most Kpop fans seem to be straight women), so it’s not surprising people get the impression girl groups are left to the wayside.
>>276632>BP getting concertsThe setlist must be 60% covers or some shit.
No. 276701
Has anyone heard the most recent Red Velvet song? The teaser sounds awful.
>>276494Didn’t blackpink just finish promoting their most recent comeback? I can’t see why they’d be complaining already. And YG needs to stop depending on Teddy so much.
No. 276705
>>276704*arrests or lawsuits
Both are not worth the risk for many Koreans.
No. 276736
>>276704I'm not talking about her getting kicked out/whatever happened though. I meant how she was treated like shit by people working at SM, I'll try to find the clip of it.
On second thought, yeah I agree and take back what I said. SM is less misogynistic and more just shitty to everyone, though especially foreign idols and girls
No. 276851
>>276829Yeah I figured most groups would stay at the dorms when convenient but they don't try to tell everyone that they live together, like BTS does. BTS and their fans push the bff angle nonstop, and act like they can't bare to not spend every waking moment together. So J-hope's apartment seem strange for the narrative they push.
But yeah your probably right, he's probably just locking down a place for when BTS's fame finally ends.
>Bighit's going to stop pay dispatch off eventuallyIt's super obvious dispatch has dirt on BTS, with all the exclusive content they get. What kind of scandal do you think it could be?
No. 276896
>>276886The only thing huge enough to even put i-fans off would be either rape or drunk driving (plus points if it's one of their
innocent maknae line kek) - everything else is something they just need to get 'educated' on.
No. 276908
>>276896bullying would be a big one too. it would shatter the image that
>>276851 mentioned, which is a huuuuge part of the appeal for i-fans.
No. 277005
>>276994I used to be super into kpop groups and LIVED for the rumors about group members hating eachother.
I can remember there were plenty of "receipts" for that shit, and most of the groups survived and it wasnt a big deal so you're correct.
No. 277007
>>277006any evidence?
im a bad person for desperately wanting shit like this to be real, its not like i actually have anything against the members or want them to be miserable, but the milk that would flow forth from the fandom if anything came out would feed me for years honestly.
No. 277016
>>277011I noticed that a lot, but this year it seems like they started to make up things. Also it's not a secret to the fans, everybody knows they are completely opposites and their relationship was shit, they always talked about it very openly (that's why the bvy thing) Idk about his beef with Jin, I don't feel like they dislike each other like Suga.
I also noticed something about Jin in the early years that put me off a lot. It seemed like it was "BTS" and then there was him. It didn't seemed like he was part of the group: when they were doing something and laughing he was just watching from behind with an awkward smile or completely silent. I really thought he would leave soon. But look at him now, he pretty much gets along well with everybody or at least tries to because he realized that he was doing something wrong. Probably one of the reasons why the Jin/V problem is more subtle.
Bighit always had that police of encouraging a good relationship in BTS as part of their strategy marketing but I can't wait until some fucked up drama shows up.
No. 277024
>>277011The whole Yoongi and Tae holding hands when they're upset situation had me laughing my ass off bc armys ate that shit up and now think they're in love~
Like…it's so fucking obvious they've got beef with each other and the age hierarchy and the fact that they're complete opposites clearly doesn't make anything any better, except for Bighit constantly doing a shit ton of damage control.
God, I can't wait for the day something slips and armys break their necks.
I remember their first ever girl group Glam had this super huge scandal where one or two of the members got locked up. BigHit most likely learned from their mistake by deciding to not have any girl trainees lmaooo but even so eventually a BTS scandal will occur with their rising popularity and BigHit won't do shit bc by that time BTS will end up like 1D and a new group will show up
No. 277027
>>277024Bighit just doesn't know how to choose trainees. Like 2 of the Glamm members got arrested for blackmail. Quite a few of the original BTS line up got arrested for drug charges a couple years ago, and one was accused of violently assulting his girlfriend and then wrote a song about rape fantasies.
>>277025Do you have any reason for the drug scandal? I could see it being one as well but I think for no other reason than me wanting the drama
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After 2 years of hype Loona's debut song and video is boring af. It seems like the company either got lazy or ran out of money, the video is so bland and the school girl outfits don't match the song and the background. Blockberry probably thought that people would take their laziness as art or something. I don't get why they are pushing Heejin to be the main face, vocals and dancer her voice isn't special and she looks like plastic surgery addict ajumma, crazy to think that she's 17 and she's already had everything done, she looks really off like a robot sex doll. Poor Vivi she barely got any lines and screen time, I love her pink hair. The only thing the company did right was keeping their hair colors tbh I don't think anyone can really distinguish them apart from each other since there are so many memembers.
No. 277249
>>277214I just finished watching their debut music video and I agree there’s a noticeable drop in quality compared to their pre-debut releases. The song’s awful too. I guess their company’s starting to run out of money.
I also think LOONA’s international fanbase (which they’re riding off of) is just loud rather than big. Their pre-debut releases have never gone past five million views on YouTube and this one hasn’t even hit a million yet. Other non-music-related videos on their channel usually don’t break 100k views despite being short and having English subtitles kek Their company really gambled hard by spending so much money and pandering to international fans … and it might not even pay off.
No. 277261
>>277027>2 of the Glamm members got arrested for blackmail. Quite a few of the original BTS line up got arrested for drug charges a couple years ago, and one was accused of violently assulting his girlfriend and then wrote a song about rape fantasies.Could you please list them? Especially curious about the blackmail + the dude violently assaulting his girlfriend? Names? Articles? Consequences beyond not debuting/flopping?
This is a lot more interesting than the meaningless """
problematic""" shit like Taeyong calling a girl fat once 10 years ago
No. 277277
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You can't spell busted without BTS
No. 277283
>>277277Lmao where is this from?
>>277281Pretty sure it's Jungkook.
No. 277284
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>>277277getting these vibes from him tbh
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>>277286Damn they look busted and Halsey could pass for a troon. Why would anyone tweet such a shit picture;..
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>>277283Halsey famewhored all the way to Seoul for a picture with them. Took me a second to figure out which one the carrot top was too
Can anyone explain why idols are always wearing these face masks?
No. 277293
>>277290A. because they are scared of catching illnesses from non koreans
or B. hiding plastic surgeries
No. 277295
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>>277290To hide their makeup-free face, pimples and stubbles. It's also a fashion accessory since they'll wear it even when they're fully dressed up.
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>>277289Jhope kinda looks like kim young chul in this one
No. 277341
>>277261Here's an article for the Glam member arrest, this happen while they were active and lead to them disbanding
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2015/01/glams-dahee-and-model-lee-ji-yeon-sentenced-to-one-year-in-prison-for-attempting-to-blackmail-lee-byung-hunOne of their first members was also a sasaeng fan of Super Junior's Leeteuk but was kicked out once it came out
http://kpopkfans.blogspot.com/2014/12/girl-group-member-who-was-sasaeng-of.html?m=1The former BTS trainee that got arrested for drug use was Iron, Kidoh and i11evn. It happened in early 2016 so it was after they were done being bighit trainees but might've still been associated with RM since they were all part of a rap crew pre-debut, that RM was still shouting out in the 'dark and wild' era, called DNH. I can't find much about it though other than fansites.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/aminoapps.com/c/k-pop/amp/blog/who-is-dnh/zdIx_u80n3wm3VWPmEjRDBV8DVlp3Bhttp://daenamhyup.tumblr.com/profileIron was the one who assulted his girlfriend, which was reported in early 2017.
https://www.soompi.com/article/960487wpp/rapper-iron-booked-without-detention-allegedly-assaulting-girlfriend No. 277348
>>277343>the very first lineyou fucking wat m8
the rest of the lyrics are equally disgusting but… jesus what a start lol
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>>277354holy shit anon thank you, ive never heard this before
>1, 2, 3, GURL>just take it off GURL im a master with your bra>imma beat the pussy like you never ever felt beforemy sides
the absolute state of armys thinking this man is some kind of rap scene god
no fucking wonder he sold out
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>>277354bwahahahahahaha
comedy gold
> I can help you slide those panties offAlso, wtf does
> we gonna double your heart great form ladyeven mean?
No. 277395
>>277354jesus christ how horrifying.
he seems like the type to visit escorts a lot, tbh.
No. 277396
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I wouldn't be shocked if Halsey was hooking up with Namjoon, the only fluent English speaker in the group. Not only that, but pseudo-intellectuals are practically made for each other.
No. 277424
>>277214She does get hyped hard, but Heejin IS the main face, considering she did the best on Mix9 and just landed an LG commercial.
The shared screen and vocal time is fucked, though. Haseul, Yeojin, Vivi, and Hyunjin got so little focus—that’s 1/3rd of the group being left to the wayside.
Supposedly this isn’t the title track, which explains the bare MV, but the uniforms make it look all the more cheaper. They’re so ill fitting on the girls that aren’t stick-thin and a lot of the choreo just looks uncomfortable with the schoolgirl uniforms.
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>>277448
the fuck
No. 277542
>>277329inb4 daesung
i honestly dont think he's bad looking though he just has darker skin and small eyes, but everyone else seems to think he's fug
No. 277555
>>277542At least Daesung's got a nice bod to counter his face. J-hope is straight-up a twig
and has a cartoon-ish face.
No. 277561
>>277506>>277512>>277542nah i still think j-hope is uglier than all of them. at least the super junior guys look relatively surgery-free, just a bit unfortunate. the tubbo isn't unattractive facially. j-hope just looks botched, like his whole face was reconstructed. whoever said he and nayeon must have the same surgeon was spot on. he is probably the only member of bts who is exceptionally talented at something though
>>277560i stan
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He used to look a bit better, it feels like he alters his nose every year because it looks worse and worse. To me it's his personality that makes the whole bts unbearable, he and Taehyung do embarrassing shit constantly, Jin is awkward, Namjoon is awkward, everything's awkward.
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>>277705 Holy shit. I'm terrible at identify plastic surgery but seeing an old pic of him makes his shitty nose job super obvious. He's going to look like Michael Jackson in a few years. How do ARMYs still believe they're ps free?
>To me it's his personality that makes the whole bts unbearable I wouldn't say he's embarrassing on the level V is but he is disgustingly smug about everything. While half of BTS is spoiled, entitled brats and the other half is socially inept, borderline autist, J-hope comes off as a true, genuine asshole.
I remember once, He quit doing vlives for the longest time just because fans asked about the other members while he was on.
No. 277777
>>277770> I remember once, He quit doing vlives for the longest time just because fans asked about the other members while he was on.Huh, I remember this. I hadn’t watched their V-lives in forever but stan Twitter was blowing up with all the enraged ARMYs who wrote rants upon rants about how it was hurting his self-confidence, how he was soooo overlooked and taken for granted despite working soooo hard, how ungrateful the fans who dared ask about other members were, etc. When they announced he would finally be doing another one by himself, it all blew up again about how no one should dare so much as mention another member in the comments.
He’s a grown ass man from a group with literally millions of fans worldwide. What’s with ARMYs acting like their oppars can’t even wipe their own asses without help? It’s ridiculous and borderline offending.
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He's on his way to get a serious MJ nose.
No. 278002
>>277912Depends on what you mean. It looks like they're not actually kicking members out, just moving them to other subunits. That'll be it's own problem in the longrun (i.e. in dream, the group that relies on this rotation system the most since they're supposed to graduate after they hit 18, when Jaemin, Jeno, and Jisung rotate out they'll have nowhere to go but nct u or nct deadweight, population: kun and basically yuta, winwin, taeil, and johnny at this point) but it should work better.
Sad that Kun's ONLY role in the group is literal babysitter up until nct china debuts. He looked so tired in that cooking V live w/ the dreamies where Chenle kept fucking everything up and they made another fat joke about him kek poor bitch
No. 278034
>>278012>Socially inept lineAh, yes, the socially inept line, my favorite line, featuring: V, the autist who doesn't know how to act; Jungkook, the mentally stunted 22yo, who doesn't know how to make friends; RM, the social awkward try hard; and the ugliest one of all, Jin, the obnoxious fuckhead, who doesn't realize that he's not funny.
Kek, real talk tho, for an idol group, BTS really is filled with alot of awkward weird guys.
Why anybody would stan them, the world may never know
>>278013It wouldn't surprise me if he really was shy with girls (and everyone else) I heard he didn't start making friends outside of BTS until recently. If that's true then he's probably only been with paid escorts.
No. 278085
>>277912It’s the sub-groups (NCT 127, U and Dream thus far) that are rotational, not the group itself. It’s confusing and seems kind of pointless since they change concepts for all the sub-units all the time anyway so it would make more sense to just create new ones for different concepts but it is what it is. (Dream makes sense though since they’re supposed to be the youthful and childlike group it would be pretty weird if all members stayed forever and we’d eventually have a 25yo in a sailor suit performing songs like Chewing Gum lol)
I originally thought 127 wasn’t rotational but members like Doyoung and Johnny that were introduced after it was formed were added to the line-up, so.
No. 278088
>>278085127 is not rotational, but they add new members.
Speaking of, there was a rumor floating around a few weeks ago about Jungwoo joining 127… Lil fucked up if true. rip in piss in advance, 6/9 of the members.
No. 278099
>>278066Idol variety back in 2009~2012 was so good because you had so many shows that would feature people from different groups all in one place. You’d get shinee members, ft island members, snsd, tara, ft island all doing the same shows together. You’ll never see blackpink, bts, seventeen, girlfriend, etc all together in one show. And I feel like there was more variety of boygroups and girlgroups without a majority of them being unknown groups with tiny followings. There were more stage ‘costumes’ so to speak and less normalfag clothes on stage (if they were normal clothes, they would be recognizable outfits that would repeat like 2ne1s or shinees clothes, and things like the gee skinny jeans, etc)
Also Stan Twitter wasnt really a thing yet, just random forums and then tumblr later on. SM concerts in LA were the only kpop action we got, and snsd performing on David letterman was mind blowing.
Maybe im just super nostalgic but maaaan those were some fun times
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>>278088Aren’t Taeyong, Mark and the vocal line (Taeil/Doyoung/Jaehyun) the only 127 members who have lines anyway?
Johnny and Winwin literally never having any lines ever has become a meme. Winwin’s been in sooo many comebacks yet he’s never had a single line. Him having lines in NCT China should be a given but based on evidence you really can’t be sure. Poor kid.
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>>278109yeah, and jw is on par with everyone in the vocal line sans doyoung
, outcutes everyone in 127, and he goes ham on the gay fanservice too, occasionally to the point where it makes the others visibly uncomfortable. him joining will throw any remaining hope for the members who rarely get lines to get more out the window.
>Winwin’s been in sooo many comebacks yet he’s never had a single linealexa play despacito. what does he even do? is he a rapper?
No. 278139
>>278067Oh whoa, these people are… not entirely ok are they
Scary how many of them there are
No. 278141
>>278118Winwin has trained traditional Chinese dance and ballet IIRC so people had hopes he would be the next Victoria. The fact that he doesn’t even get center time despite clearly having potential pisses me off; that pathetic, literal fraction-of-a-second he got as center towards the end of Boss was like a mockery towards his fans.
I don’t understand why SM even bothers debuting Chinese members when they get 0 chance to shine and are treated like shit by the choreographers. I prefer watching their relay dances over the MVs/live performances specifically for that reason. (Renjun and Chenle seem to be treated slightly better in that regard but Renjun is ethnically [North] Korean and Chenle has billionare parents.)
No. 278169
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>>277290What the fuck happened to boy bands. This is so ugly
No. 278178
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>>278169You don't need talent or looks when you have fans with yellow fever
No. 278199
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>>278192its a terrible photo and that hair colour is doing him NO favours.
No. 278206
>>278204the only people who post on omona are virgin south east asian bts stans and that one
triggered twice stan
No. 278252
>>278202lmaoo the memories. I was in this spanish super junior forum and it was A MESS until the mods started being annoying and it got boring af because there was not drama at all… also idk if any of you spanish speakers fags remember this tumblr called "kpop secrets" or something like that, it was a whole mess as well but I loved it.
The pathetic fights between fandoms in the comments (that were massive) entertained me a lot back in 2011-13
No. 278256
>>278249this is surprisingly good, so far my favorites are serendipity and this one… singurality was crap, euphoria was acceptable but Jungkook's voice was plain as always but the video was nice.
I wonder why their intros have better quality than their title songs
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>>278252Oh god anon i used to troll the shit out of kpop secrets when i was in high school making up the most outrageous shit just to see the comments lmfao
Kind of like pic related but reverse
No. 278294
>>277912if i'm correct elfs had sm stocks hostage so if sm didn't want to lose major money, they had to bend to their wishes
no clue if nctzens have that power…i doubt it
i'd love if sm gave up on the unlimited members concept and just focused on the members he has now but i know that's not happening lol
anticipate nct having 25 members next year
No. 278506
>>278426I'm genuinely curious, when did you get into kpop? Because this is literally what was happening with 2NE1 back then, which is funny conisdering bp is literally 2NE1 just in pretty LOL. 2NE1 kinda sold this sound better though imo
Idk what it is about yg groups in general that makes people think they're more special/talented than any other kpop group, considering their sound/style hasn't evolved since 2012.
Maybe it's just dumb international fans importing the sentiment from the koreans?
No. 278613
god someone please find that video of yoongi pulling a chair from a staff workers hand
>>278053 mentioned
No. 278615
>>278316Yeah, they had the thread to "prevent hate from spreading to the rest of the community"
I think the reason why kpop fans act so mushy is because they spend all their time on kpop and eventually, they absorb k-netz toxic mentality, either pampering or demonizing idols (the latter happening for the most insane ridiculous reason).
No. 278698
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it's fun to make fun of annoying and obsessed stans on twitter but the sasaeng culture is just disgusting. i don't follow that many kpop accounts on twitter and i still manage to see stuff retweeted about stalkers all the time, this is just the one i saw today. other days it's accounts of people being way too intense at airports, and every week or so there's a new account selling idols phone numbers and schedules. yesterday i saw an account for a bts ship giving out secret pics of their totally real relationship, ie stalker pictures of two members standing close to each other
i still don't understand how these women don't get in more legal trouble for the kind of stuff they do, so many of them are grown adults, not just weird teenagers. of all the genuinely disturbing parts of kpop this is probably one of the scariest to me. the idea of having real stalkers is so disturbing, especially when there are idols talking about this shit happening for 10+ years with nothing being done to stop it until the stalkers eventually get bored and move on. i'm surprised there haven't been more breakdowns from idols handling this kind of thing, they manage to hold the 'i love all of our precious fans' image pretty well since a lot of the time when they do speak out the reaction is along the lines of 'tsk, ungrateful, it's because of those fans that you have money'
No. 278714
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EXID looking as botched as ever. Wtf happened to Solji, holy fuck
No. 278717
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>>278714Samefag to bitch about Hani's new face. She looked fine before man, what is she trying to achieve? Fuck this almost makes me sad.
No. 278722
>>278698im kinda surprised hes joking about his stalker, guess youve gotta find the humour in situations like that…? if she really bought a similar apartment to him, she must be quite a rich stalker lol.
the amount of obsessive/stalkerish fans in kpop fandom is staggering, but its easy to see why… the industry encourages them to form very powerful parasocial relationships with their idols to milk the absolute most amount of money out of them possible, from their strict personas, to their variety show appearances, to their extensively produced specials, photos and videos about their lives. i believe part of the reason why kpop fans are so rabid and defensive in the face of criticism towards their idols is because they honestly believe, whether subconsciously or not, that they really "know" the idol, they feel like they are friends/boyfriend/girlfriend with the idol and that the relationship is "real". just look at the amount of fans who want to bring gifts to fansigns - spending even more money on things for people who are already filthy rich!
fans need to step back and realise that they are being sold a commodity and that they don't actually know who the idols are and that they are not in a relationship with them. but good luck getting lonely, immature adolescents to realise that…
No. 278731
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>>278722>just look at the amount of fans who want to bring gifts to fansigns - spending even more money on things for people who are already filthy rich!it used to be a guilty pleasure of mine to look at the presents that fansites bought for BTS, there were insane amounts of luxurious stuff worth thousands of dollars. v got showered in gucci shit for example. i guess bh finally ran out of storage and stopped accepting gifts lol, so fans have to buy billboards and do charitable donations now.
No. 278752
>>278731fan gifts seriously piss me off. call me a jealous poorfag or whatever, but like previous anon mentioned buying luxury items for celebrities that probably have a decent amount of money is ridiculous. and if they don't have a ridiculous amount of money? tough shit, not everyone needs overpriced garbage. the amount of unnecessary consumerism kpop causes just amazes me
plus, to me it just feeds into the idea of fans owning idols. i've actually seen kfans (obviously not all) justify getting upset over something their fave did because they bought them a luxury item.
No. 278764
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so much for the genius lyricist kek
No. 278766
>>278764why is rap monster the only one who ever gets properly called out? jimin has said and done far worse and if
>>278053 is true so has yoongi
No. 278775
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>>278764the fuck? "implied sexual prejudice"?? is it
PROBLEMATIC now to not want to have sex with someone with gonorrhea?
No. 278796
>>278714Can hyperthyroidism and orbital decompression surgery have an affect on someone's appearance? I thought that's why Solji was looking swollen.
>>278717>tfw Hani used to talk about being a natural beauty on radio showsI don't remember if that was before or after her chin implant. That shit was razor sharp in DDD.
No. 278806
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>>278717Did hyerin get something done too? She actually looks good in this video. Her face was always so puffy looking and now it isn't…
No. 278916
>>278698Don't they ever take legal action towards these stalkers? They are so creepy.
From what I've seen, whenever BTS takes a flight something happens in the airport most of the time. Their company should increase their security (and all companies should provide the best security they can to their workers in general). Their fans made a project to keep them safe in the airport when they arrived at the US for BBMAs this year. It's really cool, but if the necessary security was already provided a project like that wouldn't even need to happen.
They got mobbed in Taipei last month, the situation got so chaotic, V had to post about it in their fancafe: "I just don’t like to see our fans to fall down and get hurt. We’re hurting each other. I hope that both the members and ARMYs won’t get hurt. If you’re stuck together too much, everyone will get hurt. Please." He also pretended to take a picture of a stalker who was shoving her phone in his face.
https://twitter.com/taebokkiii/status/1015510703417901056Recently a stalker hit Suga in the airport and said "It's your fault who walk in an extra way with your hands buzzing!! Then when i hit you, you came to touch your arms and act like it's so much hurt…. so disgusting! Remembering about it makes me so piss off", "I apology for a moment in heart. I didn't hit him strongly but in the video, he just like oh it's so hurt.. It's hurt… on purpose…(he is) so bad personality". She said "Maknae line is more popular, they have more security following them around, Yoongi has less security so it's easier to chase him" too. It's so messed up.
https://twitter.com/Heraldsz/status/1023695070011301890Some fansites creep me out too. How do they even keep up with everything the idol they are a fan of does in the first place? How are they able to afford all these flights, tickets, hotels, gifts? I know they sell merch but I don't think their income from the merch would be enough to afford all of this. The ones who know about their idol's private schedules and follow them to take pictures in these schedules are scary. Isn't it illegal?
Of course, I know artists want to meet their fans but the fansigns are mostly done to sell more albums. People who get into fansigns are picked through a lottery. A person who bought the album only once has a chance as well, but if you buy more albums you have a bigger chance to get in. People buy hundreds of albums to talk with their idols for 3-5 minutes, some people buy thousands of albums and still don't get picked.
People are willing to give out so much money for their favorite idols, so I guess it makes them think that they own the idol? I know the industry encourages it but it doesn't make this obsessive behavior okay.
No. 278920
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>>278916It's not just the stalkers, it's also people who are not fans that come to the airport to take pictures and sell them later. They have their own name, something like paparazzi but I forgot.
>How are they able to afford all these flights, tickets, hotels, gifts? Maybe they have rich parents? I wonder how that works, if my parents learned that I spent all my time and money on some celebrities they'd quickly disown me lol.
No. 278988
>>278916This annoys me so much
They clearly have more time an money than most people would even dream about. They could literally do anything they want, yet they waste it all on stalking someone.
I bet if Korea wasn't so ignorant about mental health they would see this is a problem and these girls need help
No. 279017
>>278798Seriously. Kpop stans are so out of touch with… everything about social interaction it's scary. I saw a comment under a pic from CL's insta saying something light hearted about how she should change labels because YG isn't promoting her like they should, and said comment was flooded with angry stans yelling "SHE CAN DO WHAT SHE WANTS DON'T TELL HER WHAT TO DO REEEEEE"
I can't imagine any of them having irl interactions
No. 279191
>>278920Are you thinking of fancammers/fansites? A lot of them do it for free, actually. I don’t think I’ve come across any paid access fansites yet, but I’ve heard of them.
There was an agency recently (Woolim, who manages Lovelyz and Infinite) who got exposed for selling information like the idols’ schedules to fansites. It’s likely the same for all other companies, considering how detailed a lot of fan-run schedule notices there are, but it was mostly funny because an Infinite fan uploaded their own transaction with the company and bitched about how shit Woolim is to her favorite idol.
No. 279221
>>279218Well… he ain't wrong.
The armys who are spazzing out over this are definitely gonna look back and regret it in the far future, especially when the BTS members decide to modify their looks even more due to caring too much about what their fans think. Yoongi, Hoseok, and Jimin are already in the uncanny valley. Their brainwashed minds just aren't seeing it.
Kahn has the right to his own opinion, and he's in a completely different industry than their oppars so how tf do they expect him to apologize. Pretentious pricks.
No. 279222
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>>279218why do they always jump to violence when anyone ever criticises BTS?
they must be at least somewhat aware of how insane they sound
also lmao at top comment
No. 279224
>>279218>They all have plastic surgerytrue
>They are all wearing lipsticktrue
>This is what Crazy Rich Asians actually look likeworded a bit weirdly, but true too i guess
hardly an offensive tweet, but im also not sure what point he was trying to make here…?
No. 279225
>>279218>>279221that's stupid bait though, he makes no sense - male western artists also wear makeup and go through plastic surgeries (well, they don't turn themselves into copies of each other but still). armys should just ignore this but they are mostly teenagers who get
triggered too easily and turn everything into a scandal.
No. 279227
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>The 23-year-old ‘fessed up to who her favourite member of BTS is, and it’s the leader of the K-pop group who has won her affection.
I wonder why… Maybe because he's the only one who's actually able to communicate with her? Lmao
>Joint Halsey and BTS stans freaked out over the picture, with one person tweeting: ‘Your friendship between them is pure and genuine uwu [smiley face].’
>Halsey replied: ‘We have been friends for almost 2 years! I am so lucky to know them and they inspire me so much. 🤘🏼 your boys are A+.’
This is just too funny. She's been "friends for 2 years" with a group of guys who can't speak English. I can't.
No. 279243
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>>279233lmao they're def fucking if that's the case, can't wait for the scandal
I'd bet money that the chick with the psychic sister on allkpop was right. I believe it's already been mentioned on previous threads, but still here's a link to the full thing:
https://onehallyu.com/topic/244275-future-of-kpop-whats-happening-with-the-major-groups/I normally don't believe in shit like this but I 100% believe the BTS one since they're most likely already heading down that route. Can't wait for the milk uwu
No. 279244
>>279243sage for double post
the bigbang prediction has me cackling
>Nothing really special just small dating rumours sureeee
No. 279522
>>279517Sis all girl group rappers are either Hyuna or CL clones. LE does that Hyuna nasally squeaky voice thing does and looks like current CL
>>278714 >>276581
No. 279540
>>279522My bad, they both do have the nasal thing going on, but I thought LE predeced Hyuna when she was in that hip hop group. But even then, Hyuna’s still got a few years on LE.
Most of the third gen girl group rappers aren’t really CLs or Hyunas, just members relegated to sing-talking and being cute. I don’t even know what the fuck was in SM’s mind when it came to Joy’s Michael Jackson rap in Dumb Dumb.
No. 279542
>>272341most of the people in these threads don't know anything about kpop. i've surmised this from lurking quite a bit.
they're the types of people that enjoy hating on things that are popular. if bts didn't exist they'd be whining about exo
No. 279549
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An army trying to criticize other groups for utilizing black music is rich, lol. What does that make their whole debut discography then??
>>278916Fansites are usually rich kids that can afford to purchase high quality cameras, flight info, plane tickets ect. They're just as bad as sasaengs who receive idols at airports and chase them down with taxis. I-fans try to act like they're above fansites but will literally hug, stalk, and steal personal belongings from idols just to brag on social media.
No. 279554
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https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/naver-all-bts-members-had-surgery.html?m=1
>This Asian American is the one copying kpop MV. Just ignore himNobody is copying from kpop lol
Look at the stats: it's all middleaged losers getting riled up over somebody insulting their innocent babies, yikes.
No. 279557
>>279550I want to fucking bash my head in after reading this shit thanks anon
Nobody in korean society reads that fucking deep into ~han~. Its almost a lot of songs are about, you know, overcoming stuff and being confident with a certain situation. Oh wow, such a korean concept.
And the shit about how ailees song won best OST because of the han influence, and not because most koreans dont care for teenybop idol singers that were running against her.
No. 279880
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wtf
No. 279885
>>279880The hair colors are atrocious my god… I also usually like concept photos but BTS ones are getting worse and worse, after the all denim/crying/barefoot disaster. A lot of idols look dumb as fuck but BTS takes the cake recently.
Do people think idiols look better with these bright neon haircolors? What's wrong with black/brown dammit?
No. 279894
>>279892Except J-Hope, damn what a head. And what a bowlcut.
Can we ban bowlcuts in idols please? I will never understand the need to look like a 5 year old.
No. 279896
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>>279880My oppas are so woke guys.
No. 279912
>>279896isn't it v who got a bit of attention for using phrases from anti feminist groups?
i miss when people just accepted kpop concepts were just about looking cool and pointless. the worst i've seen is people trying to explain that songs like twice's likey are satire and not just shallow. just accept that pop music, k-pop included, sometimes just isn't that deep. if snsd brought out gee in 2018 people would be claiming the video is about how society tries to infantalise women or make them into mannequins
No. 279914
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>Am I the only one who cried bcs of this concept? I mean, they were surrounded by CCTV, eyes, and hands all over the place…… That just….. They have no space or even privacyYeah, poor them, all that money, living their dream and shit.
>>279896It's actually a reference to Orwell - and to make sure that even the dumbest of their preteen fans get it, they wrote 1984 on one of their jackets. Sooo intellectual kek
Pic related just because he's so damn ugly
No. 279915
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>>279914He's got that incest jaw
No. 279934
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>>279914Yeah i bet they all hate the fame and the mountains of expensive fan presents
No. 279936
>>279914why are fans so protective of idols? it's so creepy, it's like they can't decide between wanting to be their girlfriend or their mother.
I can't even count the amount of posts I see that go from "uwu I love my small boy" to "he's so hot please choke me" in the same comment section.
No. 280133
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Why do idols lie about their weight so much? Do they really think they're fans are blind?
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/theqoo-idol-who-is-181cm-with-59kg.html?m=1His body looks super good, yet he wants everybody to believe he's underweight, why?
No. 280143
>>279880Look, I liked some of their concept outfits. Spring Day was cool, BST also wasn't too bad.
But this is complete and utter shit. Honestly, what the fuck. I don't even know where to start (Jin's hair? That frilly blue jacket? The clown collar?)
There's a lot of people who say their looks have been steadily going down since 2016, but that must be the ultimate proof. Anyone who sees this and still thinks "yeup, I still want to bang all of these dudes" is a fucking lunatic.
No. 280223
>>280201depends what you mean, TVXQ had a song/MV about being stalked/watched all the time as an idol a decade ago, but they also did the ~deep social commentary~~ stuff back with O-Jung.Ban.Hap (along with loads of other groups) and ARMYs still act like BTS are the first kpop group to do that stuff
I've assumed this when I've read this thread before, but are many people that post here just old k-pop fans disillusioned with it all now? I was a fan of a lot of 2nd gen groups and mostly checked out around 2013, I can't tell if I just grew out of it or if what I liked about k-pop died during this new era
No. 280225
>>280194i feel like theyre gonna release some really experimental tracks and dabble in some prog rock and psychadelic funk.
just kidding, its gonna be 1 generic single with a catchy hook, 1 fun/silly and catchy song, 1 slow song with vocalists only, 1 rapline only, possibly a collab song and then a few fillers
No. 280252
>>280240Honestly Jimin has the best styling this time around, and that's not saying much. It looks more masculine than he's typically styled, which is nice because he looks so gross with the femboy look.
Unfortunately the moved the femboy look over to namjoon, who also can't pull it off.
The only one who could probably pull it off decently is J-hope because he has more androgynous features than the rest.
No. 280270
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>>280261i have no idea what they did to V's hair in that pic, its actually pink atm.
>>280254suga just looks botched
No. 280292
>>279880Taehyung used to be such a pretty guy (imo of course), how did he lose his looks so fast… Is he drinking a whole glass of cooking oil every day before bed to get such a bloated face?
>>279914Straight up looks like a monkey, they shouldn't hide his eyebrows, it's the only thing giving his face some sharpness and dimension.
They'd all benefit for a more regular styling too.
No. 280297
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oh god
No. 280298
>>280297Lol, where's the anon that said he looked good? God, the dude CAN look good, why did they do that to him? At least during the DNA era or blood sweat and tears I could kind of understand the appeal.
In any case his selfies are always terrible.
No. 280319
>>280314Same reason there are more female weebs. It's more socially acceptable, and we can get away with embarrassing, autistic, weird behavior more than men can.
Doesn't help that there are a lot of male sycophants in these hobbies either who will fawn over you if they think they have even half a chance. I honestly wish someone would have just told me honestly what an abject loser I was at 24 for still blowing all my cash on cosplay and listing "anime" as my sole hobby for example.
No. 280320
>>280313I don't mind they lip sync if the dance is complicated. But I would never pay to see it.
I've seen stages where they sing "for real" (still have a backtrack) and it sounds terrible with the heavy breathing. I don't know why they even try.
Anyone else hate also when rappers do their part and they don't rap all of it? Like they do a part then take a breath and let the backtrack complete it. Like come on, just lip sync all if you're going to do that.
No. 280323
>>280292It's most likely bc of weight gain, imo he looked best when he was slimmer.
They all honestly look like a bunch of dyke moms in that image. How do armys like this shit?
No. 280324
>>280319there are more female weebs? i'd say its pretty equal
but ive never encountered a male koreaboo
No. 280325
>>280322I bet male kpop fans are more secretive about it since they know it's embarrasing. Female fans are more blind to it.
They just want to fuck the idols, or think they are cute and want an asian girlfriend. Same as weebs.
No. 280332
>>280326Yeah, some girls are so thirsty for Korean men. Even if they're butt ugly.
Just give them an idol haircut, a dangly earring and they'll be screaming "Oppa!" in the comment section.
Or the koreaboos like Edward Avila. He has so many thirsty girls telling him he's beautiful when he looks like an idol reject. With terrible makeup skills as well.
He's super gay too, but that doesn't stop them from fawning over him.
No. 280342
>>280340Why go to one in the first place? I would understand if it's like Kcon and you can see multiple groups at the same time, but to go and see only one group dance and lip sync I don't see the appeal.
Especially since they usually have very few songs. Kpop albums are incredibly short and underwhelming. And if you're super far away you can't even see them dancing, you get even less of an experience from it.
I'm sure they try to compensate with a lot of fan interactionm lights, fireworks, etc. But it's really not enough for me.
Does anyone know how much tickets usually cost? Like BTS concerts for example.
No. 280344
>>280342i can understand why international fans would go because they have few chances to see them in person
and for the price, it depends on the artist. bts tickets were expensive and a lot were bought by scalpers. but i saw wanna one tickets being sold for 6 dollars lol
No. 280345
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What is it with armys screaming about bts being lgbt icons or whatever because of this photoshoot? Idgi
No. 280353
>>280345lmao i know right, this is the same band that made War of Hormone ffs
>>280349exactly, fans are like 'uwu oppa wore a skirt in the photoshoot we love a 21st century man that says fuck ur gender rolls to the damn dirty straights' and its like bitch your oppa sat in makeup for 3 hours on his phone while a team of 8 underpaid stylists picked out his "skirt" (it turned out it was shorts anyway)
No. 280361
>>280358Kahn's videography is massive, do ratmys really think his nearly 30 year career is going to be over because he made a joke about a k-pop group? He made Britney Spears' Toxic video, if somebody wants him as a director they aren't going to care that he was mean to oppa.
He's also done music videos for AKB48 before though, so I expect to see comments about how he's an evil, self hating, right wing weeb if it carries on much longer
No. 280363
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>>280360Yes, when you grow up your nose gets like 3 times smaller. You didn't know?
I don't get it. Would they hate them if they confirmed they did ps? I doubt it, so why fight it so much? I like some idols, and I accept that they did ps.
I do hate some of the beauty standars they follow. Like the super small jaws and noses. Especially the noses, they are so small and sharp. Always reminds me of Michael Jackson and it never fits their face.
No. 280367
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It's pretty obvious actually… kek
No. 280372
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>>280362nothing can top cow jimin
No. 280375
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>>280362Do you think this would make Jungkook cry if he were to see it?
No. 280383
>>280362I vote for this one
>>280375 or their ugly as shit concept pic
No. 280397
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>>280375I made an army style edit of this one w/ twitter stickers so it would jump out more. Is it too obnoxious to be the pic?
No. 280414
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>>280397I like this one. Or this one.
>A Twitter user named Kaley told her friend that the boys were "so beautiful I could shove a hammer in [her] mouth". Of course, like any friend would, the friend called her bluff, so she actually shoved a hammer in her mouth… and it got stuck. No. 280595
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>@ all those immature loona stans, holocaust aint no joke, its such a sad and sensitive subject yall are so childish ffs + is there any need to make a hashtag called “armygenocide” and hate on bts and armys? the answer is no. yall are taking this to another level. this isnt funny.
Uhm, did they forget that their oppas literally did a "sexy" photoshoot at the holocaust memorial?
Also, how Armies still claim that they didn't know about ww2 history, but at the same time rm is an intellectuall who reads old german literature is beyond me…
Pic related
>Just to make clear - of course I didn't met them or something like that (sadly) :grin: But I just visited Berlin and I went to the "Holocaust landmark " (where bts had a shooting) and took some pictures aaaaand It looks exactly like suga and Rap mon in their photoshoot in Berlin 2 years ago :blush: Haha I just thought it was funny to make a comparing picture :see_no_evil:
No. 280637
>>280595I don't remember, did we ever get an actual apology for this or did bigshit just DFE and never mention it again?
God, I don't hate BTS but their new stans act like all the hate they get came out of nowhere LOL they used to be so fucking messy pre-RUN era