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No. 397814

Do any other farmers find yourself going through periods of internet “rabbit holes” where you find yourself reading specific websites/watching vids related to a specific subject for days~weeks on end? What is your current “rabbit hole” and how did you find yourself there?

No. 397818

I got dragged to “5 feet apart” the other day and while the movie wasn’t that good, I’ve been researching Cystic Fybrosis like crazy ever since, and theres apparently a whole community for CF on Youtube. These kinds of diseases are a morbid curiosity of mine though.

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>>397818
watching this reminded me of pic related which you should check out if you haven’t! it’s also kind of cool because her livejournal is still up so you can comb through her journey https://65redroses.livejournal.com/

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I don’t remember when or why (probably tumblr), but I always remember and forget that the Scarfolk blog exists. Great for people who like worldbuilding and dystopian fiction. This guy takes his time to photoshop 70s era propaganda posters and advertisements to describe a fake town in northern England. Played for lulz and also creep factor
https://scarfolk.blogspot.com/?m=1

No. 397851

>>397847
Thanks, anon. This is right up my alley.

No. 397918

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The "Only One Solution" movement is fascinating, especially if you are/were vegan or have even a vague awareness of vegan ethics. They perfectly embody the absurdity of veganism when taken to its most logical conclusion - they believe that the only vegan world is no world at all.

They unironically advocate for global destruction and the eradication of all life as a "cure" for suffering.Their propaganda is so convincing that I'm shocked it hasn't gotten more press. Even in vegan circles I rarely, if ever, hear their movement referenced despite the staggering amount of unique content on the site.

The movement is a mega blackpill. Enjoy.

http://onlyonesolution.net/

No. 398016


No. 398022

>>397918
Eh, this is just suffer porn. I'm mostly vegan myself but this is incredibly stupid propaganda.

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Every once in a while for the last couple of years or so I'll dive into stuff relating to superfund sites, toxic chemicals and chemical disasters, I also find coal kinda interesting too. Centralia, PA is a cool thing to google, fun fact its part of what inspired Silent Hill. I'm constantly searching for new docs and articles about toxic chemicals affecting people and the environment.

Image attached is Love Canal, which is like the OG superfund site and is basically the inspiration for all the stereotypical toxic sludge wasteland depictions you see today. This company used the land as a dumping site, and the land eventually got bought for $1 for the purpose of building homes, knowing what was buried there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

If you wanna do more research the EPAs superfind site search is a fun place to start: https://www.epa.gov/superfund/search-superfund-sites-where-you-live

No. 398044

>>398037
Er, anon. I think you misread the article…

No. 398048

>>397918
But they're right tho

No. 398050

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>>398037
I do this as well. It started out years ago when I watched the Hills Have Eyes remake and I became interested in former nuclear sites. This lead me to the Kyshtym disaster in Russia. From there I branched out from environmental disasters caused by radiation to other types of toxic waste. Reading how people have been made ill, born disabled and had their lives cut short is disturbing but it's also very interesting. At least in the US something positive came from Love Canal in that it was the start of the Superfund sites. There are places all over the world that are still contaminated from what happened decades ago and it's only going to get worse in places like India and China. I still watch videos on youtube about abandoned mines and look up places on google maps.

No. 398056

>>398044
Just curious, what did they misread?

Love Canal is still a poisonous shithole that people shouldn't live in and it very likely affects both Niagara Falls and Buffalo NY in terms of cancer rates.

No. 398058

>>398044
What'd I misread?

No. 398092

>>398058
>>398056
Sorry, didn't meant to sound so cryptic. The school board bought it for $1, built schools on it and then sold more of the land for profit later to a company that build houses on it (and promised not to build underground but did anyway). I think it's a bit more fucked up that the school board bought it initially, you know, for children to go to.


Anyway I both love and hate this shit because I have OCD so…

No. 398133

>>398092
Coulda just said that to begin with but thanks I guess

No. 398179

the restoration process of old paintings and other works of art is fucking cool and really satisfying to watch. i’ve been bingeing this guy and a few other related channels for a week now.

No. 398216

>>398179
I watch this guy's videos when I can't sleep. I love his attention to detail.

No. 398221

>>397918
.

>hey unironically advocate for global destruction and the eradication of all life as a "cure" for suffering


How fucking stupid. This is such a spoiled first world-er way of thinking.

No. 398227

>>398221
Logically it doesn't make sense either.
>Getting people to support veganism is too hard and won't work but getting people to support the annihilation of all life is somehow easier

No. 398234

>>398179
I saw this video posted on Facebook awhile back, people in the comments were saying this guy is unconventional in his methods and he isn’t a real art restorer. Idk how accurate those comments are though, considering it’s Facebook and everyone likes to complain about everything.

No. 398247

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I love going down weird Amazon rabbit holes. My favorite thing is reading reviews for super specific weird amazon items.

No. 398253

>>398247
Lmao, is that Avril Lavigne? Good gracious.

No. 398285

http://hsinvisiblechildren.org

A whole website dedicated to children who've suffered abuse in homeschool. It's strange because it's a site against homeschooling. I mean homeschool isn't inherently bad, right? It can just be horribly abused by the wrong people. Anyways there's tons of cases on there.

No. 398292

>>398285
This is heartbreaking and makes me hate humanity even more

No. 398294

>>398285
homeschooling isnt inherently bad but that focuses more on the fact that people can take advantage of the fact that its unregulated and that there arent many people around to step in for the welfare of the child if its in the case of abuse.

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>>398285
>mfw reading those posts

I don't understand how people can be so cruel ,especially to a kid jesus christ

No. 398350

>>398227
i dont think that's exactly what they were getting at. they're right imo but it's dumb to actually want to destroy the world and waste time trying to work toward it. they were saying that it's impossible to actually live vegan, like, medicines aren't vegan, etc. they also said that nature itself is inherently suffering and that nature is fraught with disease, predation, it's just massive suffering for all animals (which is true), so they want that suffering to end, too. i understand what they're getting at, but to actually work toward destruction is stupid as shit. a lot of environmentalists think nature is beautiful, especially since we have the privilege of being able to observe nature without being part of it, but it's frightening as fuck and absolutely horrific.

No. 398361

right now i'm on a hardcore secondlife player binge.

I started with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaTYFs380rI

and ended up up at the emb. video.

i need more.

No. 398406

>>398350
they do know that even if we were to somehow actually destroy all life living on earth it would just eventually come back and the cycle would continue? lol.

No. 398449

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I got sucked into Mandela Effect websites today. This page filled with people complaining about how the Sun changed colour, the Moon keeps flipping around, and Mars didn't use to have moons is my favourite so far (especially how most of the people complaining about sunlight being different openly admit to staring directly at the Sun a lot and never wearing sunglasses).

https://mandelaeffect.com/the-sun-the-moon-the-stars-and-the-sky/

No. 398466

A few days ago a video showed up on my recommended feed of a real time model of the Titanic sinking, since then I've been going down the rabbit hole of naval disasters, specifically of the Titanic's 2 sister ships that had almost equally bad luck, and reading about the surprising amount of conspiracies surrounding White Star Line.

Disasters in general (like Centralia as one anon mentioned) are super fascinating to me, I could read about them forever.

No. 398480

>>398466

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/302940/

Naval disasters fascinate me as well as airplane crashes and the like - it's so sad but I can't stop reading/watching. The link is a pretty well-written article about the sinking of the Estonia. It's so intense thinking about all those people who died because they were seconds too late.

No. 398485

>>398480
This was a fascinating read, thank you!

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>>398480
Very haunting. After watching the video I looked in the comments and found the picture the one guy accidentally took of another survivor while trying to use his camera flash to see. Without context you'd never guess this was a guy sitting on a capsized boat waiting for death to come.

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>>398480
This is how I feel with MH370, a few times a year I'll go and see if there are any new updates about it. The plane literally just disappeared off radar and only a few parts of the plane have been found iirc, obviously it crashed we know that but there are so many theories as to how and why. Its depressing though knowing that everyone aboard died and there are hundreds of families out there unable to bury their loved ones.

No. 398570

>>398480
>>398503
I remember watching the news about it next day when it happened.

No. 398664

>>398234
i definitely wouldn’t trust facebook comments as a good source lol. it’s funny they say things like that, the met uses a lot of the same techniques he does and all of his resto work is fully reversible so there’s no need for them to get upset over it. plus he’s been doing it 25 years. but like you said that’s just kinda how facebook is.

No. 398746

>>398285
>In February 2017, the Franklins watched the film Manchester by the Sea, in which a character accidentally kills his children in a house fire. Within hours after they watched the film, JR was dead from unknown causes, and the family’s home was on fire.

What the fuck

No. 398767

>>398564
It was 99% certain a pilot suicide and the Malaysian government is aware of it but will not publicize it.

r/unresolvedmysteries is good, I used to have a great blog post that expands upon this theory. Unfortunately I can't find it. I don't know how long it will be until another piece of the plane surfaces or if we'll be able to locate it.

No. 398773

Unusual accidents, theme park/rollercoaster deaths, diving accidents, airplane crashes, cruel things happening in unexpected environments. There are entire lists on wikipedia of rollercoaster accidents, I lose a couple hours reading all about them. Theme park stuff is a big fave.

Also once in a while I rewatch To Catch A Predator episodes and the past few days I've been reading the actual Perverted Justice chat logs. It's scary. There also used to be this really small livestream a couple of men did on their own time and advertised on 4chan called Phone Trap Live. They'd actually call the pedos and one of them had a crazy convincing teen girl voice and would gather all of the pedo's info along with the recording. They havent done it in like 7 years afaik.

TCAP pedo chat logs:
http://www.perverted-justice.com/?archive=byUserVotes

No. 398786

>>398773
Are you me? I feel so guilty whenever I read about catastrophes, but I can't help but find them interesting… even if sometimes it's hard for me to sleep knowing those things.

Love me some pedo justice as well. Obviously don't feel bad at all about those ones. Wish people were still outing pedophiles.

No. 398787

Anytime I look at SCP stories or see their ID numbers anywhere this happens.

http://www.scp-wiki.net

No. 398805

I've spent countless hours reading about Jonestown and I still have barely made a dent in the content on this website:
https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/
There are hundreds of audio recordings on there too but honestly they disturb me too much so I just read the transcriptions

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Disappearances.

Particulary those which have 0 evidence and not a lot of coverage which makes them more frustrating.
I'm not exactly sure what draws me to them. Probably the mystery and my undying curiosity. Gdi i just wanna know

Pic related, Ruth Wilson, also has an actress with the same name so searching anything about her is difficult, vanished after leaving a cab

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ruth_Wilson

No. 398888

>>398361
hohly fuck anon lmao, thank you for this
SL shit is so interesting, its like the internets natural quarantine for mentally unstable people.

No. 398913

>>398480
You me anon? I binge on disaster stuff all the time, mostly because I'm an engineering nerd and find it fascinating how the vessels are built and how the disasters could've been prevented. I don't know if it's sick or something to be so invested but I don't get a kick out of people dying. I like to watch true crime dramas too because I'm interested in the forensic work.

Estonia was a horrifying one though, I still feel ill reading articles about it because it was so brutal with its death toll. So many things could've been done better to prevent the disaster, but at least we know better now and each disaster allows us to build safer means of transportation.

No. 398920

>>398913
NTA but Estonia haunts me too. I guess because it happened relatively recently it just seems inexcusable to me that so many people died due to the crew's negligence.

I also love disasters as long as I try not to think too much about the death tolls. It's so gutripping to think about, shit keeps me up at night.

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>>398361
Second Life videos are amazing. Many people that play this game are extremely weird.

My current rabbit hole: I sometimes watch satisfying videos on Instagram and my explore feed thus is full of slime and kinetic sand videos, but also mukbang. I usually dislike mukbang videos, especially since they all have started to become more extreme with people eating moving octopus etc. What’s even weirder: I found a very active "chalkeating" community with people eating chalk or huge cornstarch containers. 50% of them seem to be Russian, the rest is middle-aged black women. I wonder why those groups gravitate towards chalk. They seem to have pica, but the way they talk about the chalk is very affectionate and sometimes it even sounds like a fetish. Really weird.

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>>400829
Anon you were not lying wtf is this

Seems like something anachans would do lmao

No. 400870

>>400868
doesn’t pica come from nutritional deficiencies and pregnancy? it does seem like a fetish

No. 400871

>>400829
>>400868

I am 100% convinced that mukbangs and ASMR are the latest bizarre fetish phenomenon and I distance myself from anyone who admits to watching them

No. 400872

>>398480
Since this was posted I’ve watched every single video I can find about ship disasters and sinkings.

The transmission logs from the titanic are really interesting and almost fun if it weren’t from a terrible disaster.

No. 400884

>>400871
I enjoy watching ASMR once in a while and I get 0 sexual satisfaction from it. I just find it relaxing.

No. 400894

>>400871
it annoys the crap out of me that ASMR gets associated with fetishes and sex stuff. 90% of the ASMR community are roleplays of many kinds that are 100% nonsexual and the creators put a lot of time, effort and creativity into their work only to be dismissed by some ignorant twat who doesn't know jack shit about the community and hasn't ventured into ASMR videos past those shitty clickbaity titty thumbnail videos that somehow get more noticed than the good, creative, wholesome content. it's not inherently sexual, it's helped a lot of people with sleeping problems or anxiety at least to some degree, and many people find it genuinely relaxing. it's not a fucking fetish, or at least not to literally every single person that watches it.

No. 400898

>>400871
Yeah I'm with >>400884 I like watching ASMR sometimes when I wanna relax and I'm pretty comfortable saying the vast majority of people who watch ASMR videos just use them to go to sleep/relax. Its not some weird jerk off material? Not to say there isn't obvious sexual ASMR fetish type stuff but that kinda content gets a really bad rep with like 95% of the people who watch/make ASMR and is pretty widely rejected. Its weird that you've convinced yourself it must be a sexual thing just because it personally makes you uncomfortable

No. 400902

>>400898
i usually use it as background noise when i'm doing trivial stuff or when i want to take a nap/go to sleep. it's a very wholesome, drama-free community, artists tend to collab with each other a lot, many creators do special videos for holiday ocassions (Halloween or Christmas RPs, some creators have special holiday series that get released every year), they rely A LOT on the audience's input and often do videos per request or to celebrate subscriber milestones. very, very few of the videos are sexual, and overly sexual content is often shunned or looked down upon by the general community bc they already get othered or called "weird" by the general media. calling it "a fetish" like >>400871 did when you've only heard of/seen mukbang types (which aren't even sexual either???? mouth sounds are a genuine trigger) and stuff is weird and plain ignorant.

i'm fiercely defensive of ASMR, it's the only online community I know of that's (mostly) free from Jake Paul-types of youtubers/content creators and drama, and it has a noble purpose.

No. 400904

>>400902
>it has a noble purpose.

LMFAO no it does not. having nice feels and being relaxed isn't noble. and you wonder why everyone thinks ASMR people are nuts. you may not all be fetish driven, but all of you are crazy and weird.

No. 400932

>>400894
Go to a actual doctor for your anxiety and sleeping issues instead of using the Internet, cows make excuses. Nonsexual things can be fetishes.

No. 400941

>>400932
this. asmr spergs are so fucking defensive. it's not a fetish cause it's sexual. hell, >>400902 thinks mukbang isn't a fetish? that's a hard cope.

No. 400944

>>400932
White noise machines have been around for ages, are you going to tell me that finding the sound of rain relaxing is a fetish too?

No. 400946

>>400944
sorry, would you rather obsession or fixation? asmr is weird and for people who are weird. it's abnormal and borderline creepy for people to enjoy and rely on shit like that like it's normal. think, if there wasn't something fixating about it beyond what normal people like, every youtuber under the sun wouldn't be trying to pander to it. just get over it and stop being so defensive.

No. 400949

>>400932
i said it HELPS, not that it cures it or that it's magic. learn how to fucking interpret a text, you retard.

No. 400958

>>400894
Wew I’m og anon and it’s hilarious how many people i triggered and how many defended me

>it's helped a lot of people with sleeping problems or anxiety at least to some degree


Rain sounds and meditations have been around forever, fucking kek at all the ASMR spergs who think it’s some sort of great new gift bestowed from god

No. 400977

>>400946
I get your point about the ones with voices but answer her question. What about sounds and noise?

No. 401028

>>400894
>somehow

anon you know why the titty ones are the ones that get noticed, lol.

horny people ruin everything, that's nothing new.

No. 401029

>>400946
if watching a harmless video of a cake being baked or someone making slime makes me weird then fine. i don't see what the big deal is.

No. 401032

>>400977
even with voices, self improvement tapes, guided meditation and relaxation CDs predate the ASMR trend on youtube. is this video weird and fetishy or is it okay because its a guy speaking and it doesn't use the ASMR label? is anything a woman does automatically a fetish?

No. 401033

>>401029
that's not what makes you weird. it's the need to hear noises. that shit is so weird that most of the instructional videos have cute music replaced with weird volume increased sounds of clanging bowls and shit. most normal people like to listen to music and not weird random sounds that are louder than they would be for real.

No. 401034

>>401032
>is anything a woman does automatically a fetish?

this fucking retard shit again. get back to your containment thread.

No. 401035

>>401034
containment thread for what? it does seem like asmr gets slapped with the "fetish" label because its largely a community of women video creators, and people assume everything women do must be for men.

No. 401047

>>401029
that kind of asmr is not weird but the videos where girls (A lot of them super young) make weird noises with their mouth or whispering to the camera are creepy. Like a literal child making an "asmr role-play" video of her arresting someone is being used as fetish material for some disgusting 50 year old man out there. This video summarizes my thoughts well I think

No. 401051

>>401047
yeah this shit is unbelievably creepy and not ok, like where are her parents? you really let your 13 year old make videos online? mouth sounds and ear licking/kissing/etc are always so fucking gross. same with mukbangs, i don't get why they're so popular, they make me physically ill to even see or hear clips of.

No. 401061

>>401035
lmao no. get out of here with your weird tinfoiling. most people associate ASMR with creepy dudes who want to be whispered at or annoying women like you who think things are "noble" because you want to feel "nice" from sounds. the nice "feeling" is the fetishy part. full stop. i don't care if you're a man or a woman or have no fucking genitals. it would be creepy no matter what. i hate when women play the gender card about things that are objectively weird to play victim.

No. 401062

>>401047
I don't agree with any child being an youtube or a youtube star and this is wrong, not because asmr is automatically a fetish, but because men are sick fucks who can't be trusted. maybe you guys spend too much time reading what shitty men say on the internet, but asmr mostly started off as a community of women, for other women, who liked relaxing sounds and soothing whispers. then of course men had to come in and ruin it.

No. 401063

>>401061
why are you so against things feeling nice? if a scalp massage feels soothing IRL is that automatically a fetish? you're projecting.

asmr is weird but people who like to watch pimples and boils being popped is now mainstream and the fucking pimple popper dr has a damn tv show now. that is way more freaky than asmr, imo.

No. 401066

>>401061
NTAYRT. ASMR encompasses a lot of interests. Some of it is sexual, IIRC the early ASMR videos on youtube were of Japanese ear cleaning and sex roleplays. Most of it isn't sexual, I highly doubt that anyone is getting off to binaural thunderstorm recordings or birdsong. ASMR is just a medium, in the same way that film is. There's films for children and there's pornographic films. You don't call the entire medium of film a sexual fetish just because some people choose to use it that way.

No. 401074

>>401066
>IIRC the early ASMR videos on youtube were of Japanese ear cleaning and sex roleplays

Source? I've been watching asmr videos since 2012 and I don't remember japanese sex roleplays.

Does anyone in this thread even know what asmr is? It is a feeling that not everyone experiences. It is non sexual and a soothing feeling in the back of your skull and spine. Normal everyday sounds can trigger it. The videos are just for triggering the feeling. I've experienced that feeling since I was a child (long before the asmr video community existed) and I know the difference between that and sexual arousal, just like I know the difference between hunger and sexual desire. People who don't experience it think the videos are fetishy, and some people do use them for that, but asmr (the feeling) itself is not sexual.

No. 401076

>>401066
Really? My first exposure to ASMR was those candy and re-ment videos made by RRCherrypie. I thought they were very relaxing but didn't have a name for it, then years later I saw those videos categorized as ASMR and thought it made sense.

No. 401092

>>401074
lol it's a fetish.

No. 401095

>>401066
Look up how the dingus who made it up chose the name (spoiler: she though her ear tingles were "brain cummies" but she wanted it to sound more scientific for new-age appeal so she looked in the thesaurus for climax. turtuously, climax>middle>meridian)
The stuff like forest ambience just sticks on an ASMR tag because that's the more popular tag now.
Crinkly sounds is one thing but all the whisper shit is just coy jerkoff videos

No. 401096

>>401095
You’re ignoring that guided meditation and self help tapes have existed for ages and usually feature low voices and sometimes whispers. This isn’t a new phenomenon.

No. 401101

>>401096
>ignoring
no that's an unrelated thing?

No. 401107

>>401095
NTA but who gives a fuck what the creator called it or did with it. if some people like listening to weird sounds because it makes their brain feel good, who cares. like another anon said a lot of it has literally nothing to do with sex. i’ve never watched any ASMR videos but the closest thing i’ve gotten to it is listening to string instruments, which does some weird shit and makes my cheeks and head feel tingly and warm. don’t let the fetishist weirdos ruin it for the innocent randoms

No. 401111

>>401107
for the last time just let it got that it's a fucking fixation. no one is claiming it's 100% sexual. but asmr fags always ruin threads by constantly defending themselves, they're the ones who need to stop derailing shit. why are we not allowed to say anything about it?

No. 401115

>>401111
because that's what the unpopular opinion thread is for, lol

No. 401116

>>401111
but this whole tangent started because someone said that they thought all asmr and mukbangs were a fetish and they judge anyone who watches. of course that’s going to start a derail, that comment isn’t even on topic to the post

No. 401134

>>401061
>the nice "feeling" is the fetishy part.
Is feeling nice after a full meal or when removing your shoes after a long walk also "fetishy"? Take your meds.

No. 401197

>>401116
It was on topic

>>400829
>I usually dislike mukbang videos, especially since they all have started to become more extreme with people eating moving octopus etc

>the way they talk about the chalk is very affectionate and sometimes it even sounds like a fetish.


It went on to chalk but mukbang and ASMR mirror fetishes with getting more and more extreme and weird shit (live octopus)

No. 401198

>>401116
It was on topic

>>400829
>I usually dislike mukbang videos, especially since they all have started to become more extreme with people eating moving octopus etc

>the way they talk about the chalk is very affectionate and sometimes it even sounds like a fetish.


It went on to chalk but mukbang and ASMR mirror fetishes with getting more and more extreme and weird shit (live octopus)

No. 401258

>>400977
It depends on what sounds you're talking about…
I noticed that there are many focusing on the mouth of a girl while she's eating stuff and making noises (lots of slurping for example).

No. 401271

>>401074
Search "imouto ASMR" on youtube if you really want to hear this. I remember first seeing these videos being posted on /jp/ in 2011-2012. A quick search on warosu confirms this. There was one video in particular that used to get posted on /f/ a lot.

>>401076
I could be wrong, how ASMR came to be popular in the west could be for entirely innocent reasons. The first binaural recording that I remember going viral was the virtual barber shop video but that was at least five years before I started seeing the term ASMR being used.

No. 401292

>>401115
this isn't that thread retard.

No. 401331

>>398480
I ended up down the same rabbit hole a while ago, complete with the same Titanic real life sinking video, and the Estonia's story creeped me out so much. Iirc the bodies were never retrieved and there was a conspiracy saying the Russians were behind that tragedy

No. 401357

>>401331
I think it's pretty strange that they didn't retrieve the bodies, but I don't think it's a conspiracy. The ship had a bad design in the first place. Retrieving 800 bodies is a pretty huge undertaking as well, though I still think the effort should've been made. I really feel for the families who never had any closure without a body to bury.



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