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No. 20749
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This definitely sounds like Raven.
No. 20751
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So now we now we know the deets surrounding her death/coma/suicide attempt.
Am I the only one embarrassed for her? This is cringetastic.
No. 20758
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I can't stop giggling, this is too much.
No. 20759
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Yeah there's no way she changed her name. NZ government page says it takes 3 weeks and she didn't even know about the lolcow boards 3 weeks ago.
No. 20764
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>>20756>Thats so RavenKek
No. 20766
>>20762I should have put a /s at the end of that sentence.
I don't doubt she's alive. If she's dead I'll chop off my right hand.
No. 20775
>>20773God bless you.
I didnt have time to ps it.
No. 20790
>>20787
>> Hi anon, sorry for the late reply. The NZ goth community in NZ is made up of groups from the different cities. We all have friends who are from the other cities so tend to have a pretty damn good idea of what is going on in the community at any time. I am not from the same city as Raven but I do have friends who are and they have nothing nice to say about her. >>This morning I discovered that she was indeed faking her death which has made me more angry that I can put into words. The fact that she makes light of something as big as suicide, right after we lost our friend to it, has definitely pushed her even further away from the community here (not that she was ever really welcomed as far as I know, purely because of this sort of drama and bullshit)Responding to you over here NZanon
I knew Raven couldn't possibly be part of any community in any city in any country. She was always so bitter about not having any friends in NZ that she made it sound like everyone over there was normal and there was no such thing as an alternative lifestyle and NZ hates Murican's and our processed cheese.
There weren't even any goths in her wedding, she had to get x-tians to attend the ceremony.
No. 20791
>>20790There a LOTS of alt people here in NZ, we just don't tend to buy into bullshit drama so people like Raven are not usually welcome.
We also don't hate Americans as she claims. A lot of us don't agree with some of what the American gov is doing but we don't hate the American people for that.
No. 20813
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>>20808Hope I did it right.
No. 20843
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So her big supporter here is going to make her own page but not as a memorial? Just for fanart? That seems like a normal way to act when someone dies.
No. 20845
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I'm imagining a classic Logan hostage style video about her death with Raven interjecting to correct the way he phrases something.
>>20844She has so many accounts I honestly wouldn't be surprised.
No. 20885
>>20879SO Logan sent Dorian a video for Facebook? That doesn't make any sense.
My vote is that's not Dorian's facebook or Raven has gotten a hold of it again.
No. 20910
>>20909surprise surprise
person like her would never kill herself
No. 20916
>>20901I feel like this stunt is really going to ruin their relationship. He's got to see how truly insane and fucked up she is by now that she's faking her own suicide because people on the internet criticized things she has actually said and done. He really can't believe that people are h8ing on her just because she's g0ff and people are just assuming things about her because of it. But then again, he's probably not reading all of this for himself, she's most definitely telling him her bs side of the story.
This is random, but because it was confirmed that he's a weeb, part of me thinks that he automatically finds her beautiful because she's ~asian~. I really don't see any appeal to her at all whatsoever, and I normally can find something good/attractive about everyone. Idk, maybe without all that unflattering makeup and clothes, she's decent looking at the least.
No. 20923
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I wonder who asked? :3
How stupid are these people? I can't believe they are real.
No. 20925
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>>i remember you called me a dwarf
No. 20938
>>20925> extreme black & white terminologiesOh look, another sign that it is raven not dorian talking. The black and white way of viewing things is very much apart of boderline.
I wonder how long she is going to keep this up, she hasnt left the internet at all if she is spending her days pretending to be her son.
>>20927Likely true, she has never had a tripod. She would need someone to take pictures of her outside at least.
No. 20948
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>>20940
Lol holy shit it's raven, she's back from the dead guys
No. 20953
>>20952Didn't someone post some hate on her RIP page and then it was deleted? I think there was a cap. Why would a troll delete that?
Correct me if I'm mistaken.
No. 20967
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The deleted posts, in all their regretful glory.
No. 20978
>>20929And Raven just proved she controls Dorians profile, i quote:
"Leave my family alone and that includes Dorian" Dorian wouldnt speak about himself in third person. So conclusion, Raven posten that.
No. 20979
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That's so Raven! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No. 21001
>>20980I guess the assumption we are supposed to make is that Logan himself went on to post the video, since he no longer has a fb since his were taken down by Raven, or that Logan is talking to Dorian on like skype or something to post it and Dorian is copy pasting the stuff.
However the wording is still weird because Logan would not have that 'family' relationship with Dorian, the whole point is that they were all friends, not that he is now the step dad. So now it is Raven pretending to be Logan on Dorians account because she wants to gather attention about how she is being 'bullied'.
No. 21004
>>21003That's because she is still stuck in puberty, mentally.
She acts like a spoiled teenage brat (along with suicide threats) for attention and pity.
No. 21056
>>21052Noooo teh trollz baleeted it cuz dye werr h8t0rzzzz
But 4srs I hope they're not still pretending a troll made it because I'm pretty sure a real troll would keep it up for their own personal lulz-fest
No. 21064
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So I was looking at who was liking all these posts on this VERY RECENT raven memorial page, and it's always the same people, some liking things that have been posted only hours before.
Well ok, you might argue, some people are on fb all the time, maybe all these people are just really sad for raven.
Then how come they only became friends with dorian recently? This one for example (karina jones) became friends with dorian, then followed the person who made the fan page, then liked all the posts on the fanpage and the fanpage itself.
It strikes me as a little strange.
No. 21065
>>21064Definitely so weird. If they aren't all fake accounts (they seem to have been around for a while and have photos), there is definitely someone mobilizing them. Multiple posters on the RIP Raven Sparks page said "someone told me to…".
I also can't get over Dorian having two FB profiles, which seems pretty out of character. He has posted to defend Raven before on the one that he's using to talk about her now, and which is suddenly full of her online friends. Do they honestly think anyone believes this nonsense and what is the deal with these self-righteous friends that are endorsing this ridiculous charade?
No. 21072
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Hmmm she sure doesn't sound dead from these comments…
No. 21078
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>>21064What she looks like. The other fans are similar-ish.
No. 21086
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>sites like lolcow ect ,if you steal these photos they are copywritten
Cracks me up.
No. 21087
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>>21086I'm shaking in my boots.
No. 21164
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Well that makes tons of sense!
No. 21360
>>21260Can you at least respond to yes or no?
Is it near Raven's IP or not? You won't be posting any info, just clarifying if it is her/her area or not.
No. 21363
>>21360The answer seemed pretty clear to me.
It doesn't matter anyway. If it is from NZ it could be her just as easily as one of her "fans", Dorian, Logan, or Ryan, so it's not like it tells us anything.
No. 21728
>>21716I like how she says that she never said anything about being dead and how other people made it up. In fact, she says the only way we should believe she is dead is if we see her obituary in the hands of Logan or Dorian. Yet she/Dorian posted that there was an obituary.
Well, she lasted a week. Well done.
No. 21744
>>21736Bless
If she is being truthful about not going online and having a life finally, then good for her. It really is a step that a lot of lolcows are not able to do.
However I cant help but feel she has a fake profile still to keep up on things, since it seems a bit to easy for her to quit fb considering how she was on it all day long playing games. It just wont be ones with her name on it.
No. 21772
>>21716I like how she seems to blame us/cwcki like we said she was dead when her son and husband where the ones who said she ODed on her insulin.
Also Raven thinking we ~dedicate our lives~ to her is laughable.
No. 21779
>>21772>I like how she seems to blame us/cwcki like we said she was deadOh yes, she's unable to shoulder proper responsibility for her actions and the effects her actions had on her shitty gothic fb friends, who for the record grieved for her. Nothing surprising considering how narcissistic raven is.
Her childbride and long suffering son (also known as her alternative accounts) did nothing to rectify those assumptions.
If anything they started and further kindled that rumour, if I remember correctly logan/dorian (I get them mixed up because they both look like teen boys to me) said that she ODd on insulin, and when directly asked by others if she died or not, pussyfooted around and kinda implied she did.
We have the proof.
It's lovely that as soon as she resurrects (I thought she'd give it a month at least, but I guess I was overestimating her poor impulse control) she starts lying and being a cunt. Hell, even when she was 'dead' she was doing shenanigans by leading everyone on fb to believe that she's dead.
No. 21781
>>21778>. please walk in slowely Capital letters missing, horrible spelling mistake. Either raven genuinely didn't write this and some fail le redditor did (unlikely) or raven did this, with spelling mistakes to make this legit, so she can claim a horrid troll did it.
Does she never get sick of drama?
No. 21787
>>21728Right? Of course you never said you were dead Raven, dead people generally don't announce their death. Just makes it even more obvious it was her sockpuppeting on Dorian and Logan's accounts.
It's so sad that a 40 year old woman goes on her child's/childbride's social media accounts to heavily imply she committed suicide rather than just getting off the fucking internet. She has no job or friends and her only hobbies are attention whoring online and playing facebook games, so of course she'll be back
No. 21798
>>21779Dorian was the one who said she Od on insulin.
>>21781I doubt it is legit, it looks too much like someone was intentionally trying to be a troll.
No. 21831
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>>21779>Raven>poor impulse controlmust be the name
No. 21832
>>21776>claragemstone2012.wix.comemail entered by poster is clarajemstone2012@outlook.com
u guys come on
No. 21861
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>>21780Preach it, Sister!
No. 21863
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>>21780my feels exactly
all hail queen PT
PIC RELATED IS FOR U RAVEN
No. 21878
>>21871Please. How dare she spout this blasphemy and question our devotion of Queen Pixy.
This baka mongoloid will never be as our desu Nipponese goddess.
No. 21883
>>21871Raven can't even touch PT's level, it's like comparing a shitty fake Louis Vuitton handbag to a real one.
Good if you're in a rough neighborhood, but actually parading it around as if it were legit is the very definition of proletarian.
No. 21954
>>21891But she isn't kawaii Japanese so it doesn't even count.
And PT is still far more entertaining than (comparatively) boring Raven. Plus there's something oddly likeable about PT, I can't quite say the same for Raven.
Though I suppose this means Chris-chan is our king because nobody can match him either.
No. 25761
>>25747Aww Dorins a cutie once he got rid of that emo hair.
Shame his mom has her dick so far up him though and can't live a normal life.
No. 27190
Someone mentioned in another thread that they wanted to start an ED article on Raven. I started writing one, but had other shit to do. Feel free to use what I have written and finish it up
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[[Last Thursday|Perhaps a decade ago]], the internet was filled with crusty, pale-faced, mentally ill mallgoths the size of planets. They declared media icons like [[Anne Rice]], [[Trent Reznor]], [[Hot Topic]] and [[Jhonen Vasquez]] as their gods which they paid tribute to on sites like [[Vampire Freaks]]. However, as the decade came and went, the numbers of mallgoths decreased due to either goths becoming [[an hero]], becoming [[Norps]] and growing out of their edgy stage, or becoming [[Hipster|something]] [[Social Justice Warrior|much]] [[Weeaboo|worse]]. However, a few goths have stuck around and still fester on the internet like genital warts or [[oldfags|“the old ones”]] in their shitty vampire novels. Meet [[My Immortal|Raven]].
== The Woman in Black ==
{{quote|I have had an incredibly hard life- worse than pretty much anyone I have ever met, aside from my mom.|[[BAWW]]}}
Raven Sparks, birth name [[Powerword|Diana Dawn Cradok]], is a 40 year old woman in [[New Zealand]] who still dresses like a mallgoth and attention whores on the internet for all to see. If one wanted to know the back story of Raven to understand how she became the fat, slovenly pedophilic [[attention whore]] that she is today, they must read through some of her sob stories. Since there is too many of them, here are some of the highlights:
- She claims to have been abused by her dad and stepmom in [[Germany]].
- Had her son at the age of 18 with some [[Mexican]] she was dating at the time. The same son Raven would later badmouth to the entire internet.
- Claims to have been [[raped]] by numerous people.
- Claims to have been [[domestic violence|abused]] by her numerous boyfriends and husbands
- Claims to have had numerous [[abortion|miscarriages]]
All of this was readily provided by Raven, herself, in an attempt to receive asspats from her fellow online goths and air out her dirty laundry for all to see. There was also something obvious that Raven forgot to mention. Being half-[[Thai]], Raven’s skin was darker than it is now. Some have rightfully believed that Raven’s skin is from [[Michael Jackson|bleaching her skin]] and avoiding the sun for several years. The result of this is Raven looking like a typical [[white]] mallgoth.
== Logan ==
{{quote|Our story is quite complicated and full of drama. In order for us to be together, we have had to go to Hell and back again. Our relationship is unconventional, and is frowned upon and disapproved of hugely.}}
Logan is husband number five and who Raven started a relationship with when he was just [[13 year old boy|16 years old]]. When faced with scrutiny over the fact that she was dating one of her son’s friends and a boy who is half her age, she downplays it in typical pedophile fashion. She claims that Logan was the one who pursued her, their love was pure, the world doesn’t understand their love and that [[ORLY|Logan is mature for his age.]] As if pedophiles have not used those same words justify their desire to get their hands on some underage [[ass]] while being interrogated by [[Chris Hansen]].
Raven also seems to be a bit of a jealous [[fatty]]. Her favorite topic to whine and bitch about is how other women are such vicious whores who dress slutty while she is such a [[lie|“prude”]] in comparison. Having four previous husbands, being an ex-prostitute, posting [[nudes]], wearing slutty hot topic shit, and receiving money and gifts is Raven’s definition of [[virgin|purity]].
One explanation for Raven’s jealous behavior is that she sees other women as competition for Logan’s attention and knows that she is [[ugly|an aging mallgoth with a big nose]].
No. 27734
>>27726God fucking bless.
For the love of god lets just lay low though.
No. 27738
>>27726Are any up now?
Can't check cause I'm at school.
No. 45595
>>45581Yeah that was an old one.
Does anyone know if shes still posting on facebook?
No. 45708
>>45628Yep, you're right. As I said over on "my" lolcow page:
"Hey again :-D
I see you've all missed me, that's nice. I'm just dropping by to tell you I chose paid subscriptions to keep YOU guys out, though if you're stupid enough to pay for it then by all means, go right ahead :-D
In either case, thanks to you lot, I've straightened out a lot of little kinks in my life, but I'm not playing your victim anymore. So I guess I have you to thank for that and for my new mindset. Everything is and will be locked down, so you won't be able to see anything (Facebook or Youtube) that I don't want you to see. I'm also no longer posting about being bullied, nor am I giving out details on my personal life. What's left is for you to do as you have been, and sit here trying to spy on me, gossiping, lying, and speculating on my life and the kind of person I am. Yeah, I fucked up in the past with my son but that's all I did "wrong", and is also something I have corrected and won't be doing again. Meanwhile you all sit here or over on the forums just ripping people to shreds. Yeah- you guys are awesome.
Though it's very flattering to see my name pop up so often, wow. You make me feel so loved.
This is the last time I'll be visiting you. I just thought since you were too stupid to figure out why I had my videos on lockdown I had better spell it out for you. I know you guys will have material for days because of this post; consider it my gift to you for helping me see what I was doing "so wrong" and straightening out my life.
Well, on with my day. Take care and enjoy :-D "
No. 46673
>>45763It sounds like she is at least being more positive? Good for her on that.
If anyone cares the paid shit didnt last, there is a bunch of videos up from the past. She confirmed that she went on here and checked up on herself, so
>>45708 is her.
No. 46848
>>45779just a head's up i archived her videos at the request of Introman.
http://static.kiwifar.ms/public/video/raven/Not sure if this is all of them but I think it is.
No. 47011
Present from a kiwi forums mod:
Here are the two videos about raven that she deleted immediately.
http://sendvid.com/yox358c4http://sendvid.com/z0mupved No. 47039
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>>47011OMG fuck RAVEN get TO THE POINT!!!!!!
No need for this 15 min video.
Like gurl you can keep it under 5 you ain't hot shit.
But happy to see she hasn't changed.
No. 49555
>>49554Well, to be fair, she
is old enough to be his mom, he was 16 when they started dating and she's pushing 40. If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Logan is
younger than her son, Dorian.
And most of the goth/alternative chicks I've seen are ugly and fat. I've only seen pretty and thin ones online tbh. But I don't think it really excuses it because Logan isn't a bad looking guy, he could easily get a cute girl to like him. I think he stays because she manipulates him into doing it. The first time she left the internet, she faked her death in hopes we'd feel remorse for criticizing her. I'm sure when he tries to leave, she threatens suicide or something like that. She doesn't have a job and the poor kid's working himself to death to support both of them. It's ridiculous that they were trying to bring kids into this situation.
No. 49567
>>49560Basically, she claims she can't work because employers judge her for being alternative and agoraphobia, I believe. I remember people were trying to help her out on the kiwi farms and she had an excuse as to why she couldn't do every little thing they suggested.
What's worse is her husband used to be her son's little play date. In the clip when they first met, Logan's on the phone saying he's at
Dorian's house. If he was there for Raven, he'd say otherwise. Also, some people have speculated that Dorian had a crush on Logan.
I definitely agree. On top of working himself to death to take care of them both, he also has to put up with her shit. She creates all this drama for herself and puts him and her son right in the middle of all of it. Logan looked his worse when she was forcing him to film videos defending her and helping her fake her death.
No. 49569
>>49554he's honestly, pretty fucking hot
how did he even stay hard?
No. 49598
>>49555>I think he stays because she manipulates him into doing it.I also want to add, she is very manipulative towards him and it's been proven. I should've said she most definitely does instead of, "I think…" He's not allowed to have friends, he's not allowed to talk to other girls, she monitors/operates his facebook, and he's not even allowed to go anywhere without her. I remember hearing there was a huge argument between them because he went out with friends to see a concert and didn't take her with him. His facebook says that he's not allowed to add women, or sluts, as (s)he says. His facebook is only stuff about Raven, that's it. They say, he chose not to add or talk to "sluts" because he's so "dedicated" to Raven he chooses to ignore them. If he was actually in love with her, a woman could be naked, in his bed, making all kinds of advances at him, and he'd still refuse to do anything with them. Also just because a girl adds you or talks to you doesn't automatically mean she wants your dick. It sounds like something Raven told him because most of the guys in his age group don't even come to that conclusion, unless they're super cocky. Considering the fact that he could easily get a cute girl but is instead with fat/ugly Raven, I don't think he's cocky or even confident at all.
No. 49617
>>49598>>49608>>49610>>49614Nooooooooooooo you're all wrong he loves her and she never laid a hand on him.
You guys are being conformist and can't get with the times.
I feel bad for him in a way I still wanna know whos gonna leave the relationship first.
No. 49622
>>49617I can't see either leaving tbh. She's clawing on him for dear life, he feels obligated to be with her, and she's isolated him to the point where he can't see what he's missing out on. Unless a cute, sweet goth/weeb girl (he's also a total weeb) starts working with him. And even then, he probably won't go for it because Raven will threaten suicide or something.
>>49618Oh my god, yes! There are people who just should never be allowed to have kids and she's one of them, she's a fucking awful mother to her son. I feel like a horrible person because when foreverkailyn was pregnant, I was hoping for a miscarriage/stillbirth the entire time. If Gracie died, I'd feel happy for her, it's a much better for her than living with Kailyn/MW as a mother. And that sums up my feelings on all these lolcows/idiots/assholes with kids/trying to have kids in general. Sorry I got a little ot.
No. 49639
>>49627I think she can't have them either, she said she was trying for years, if she could, she'd have more by now. I'm still hoping for the child and Logan's sake it's completely impossible for her to have kids. Some people who are infertile somehow do end up being able to have a kid.
I think it's also bull shit that she conveniently has "agoraphobia" like every other person who doesn't want to work.
She says she does the bad makeup and stuff because she wants to look white. She said she was happy when people in the first thread thought she was just a fat, white trash goth. I think the panda look is to make her eyes look droopy shaped because people commonly think Asians have almond shaped "slanted" eyes.
No. 49644
>>49642>>49641wow, very rarely do i see azn white trash
its almost impressive
No. 49652
>>49618no, dude, you proudly be that guy
she's disgusting
honestly, she's the type of cuckoo that seems like, 4 seconds away from scooping a shitball from her toilet bowl, swaddling it, and smearing it all over her eyelids
thank the lord this bitch miscarried
she probably wasnt mac-truck sized when she had dorian, and fat women usually have difficulty conceiving
No. 63418
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How does this old cow not learn? I really can't believe she's 40. Jesus.
No. 63420
>>63418Did he kill himself?
If he did, and that's how she responds…wtf.
No. 63469
>>63420Sounds more like attempted, and he failed? Honestly, I don't blame him ffs.
IF he did die, she would mention so, and try to garner attention saying that she's grieving and that she should have been there more, or some shit like that.
(Not saying she wouldn't grieve because she would've lost her only kid I presume, but she said numerous times that she didn't really act that Dor was her child and such.)
No. 67186
>>63418No what probably happened is that he got tired of her manipulating him and treating him like some random friend rather than her own son. When I finally stood up too my own abusive mother she basically manipulated into a situation of me being the crazy one and how she was going to call the police because I "threatened to kill myself" even though I didn't. And I lived in a completely different state. The problem with mentally ill parents is that they actually believe that the world is some fantasy land where they're the main character and the victim and everyone else around are villains. Honestly she's one of the most rage-inducing cows that's been discussed on here and it's even more frustrating how fucking blind and childish she is.
What her son needs to do is move away. Get as far away from her as possible. Maybe go to the other side of new Zealand or back to America. He needs to cut her off and do what a lot of us did and stop contact. Her abuse will only continue if he allows her to manipulate herself back into his life again.
No. 67388
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Looks like raven got something new to neglect. She originally got four not sure if she still has All of the them because she disgusts me too much to watch her videos.
No. 113088
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Raven does a super terrible shitty thing and we don't discuss? We're losing it, farmers.
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No. 113930
>>113919Anyone know anything about the surrogate mom? I'm afraid it's some desperate young girl simply bc I doubt raven would have the money for a proper surrogate and I doubt a reputable company would approve the surrogacy. But I could see her paying some 18 yr old poor girl like 5k and rigging the whole thing up.
I'm sure there will be a whole thing in a while about it.
No. 113944
>>67388She had 4. 3 of them died because she fucked up. They got loose and got crushed.
>>113930She just said it was a personal friend, so she isnt paying for it.
>>113088For those not paying attention, Ally was a 16 year old goth girl that they took in, started the process to permanently adopt and then kicked her out when she wasnt perfect. Despite knowing how fucked up her life was, Raven never thought that there would be behavioural issues to work through. So now Raven calls her a cunt and mocks her for being a child that she honestly is. Ally went on kiwi farms after this, and promises a video of her side soon.
No. 113992
>>113972It looks like she is crashing with her boyfriend atm, probably couch surfing. There is the lovely irony of Raven calling the older boyfriend a pedo in this situation. One of Raven's justifcation with Logan was that it was normal to date 16 year olds in NZ…
New video about the surrogate. It seems unlikely that we will get alot of info because she at least knows that people hate her guts. So it will be hidden until it happens, if it does.
No. 114039
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Capped from kiwi farms. She still just doesn't get it.
No. 114696
>>113479>pedophile boyfriend…
…
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….
>calling a kid a little bitchThis fat cow. I forgot why I hated her after the Queen returned in all her glory.
No. 114985
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This is all so glorious.
No. 115189
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>>115087Oh man I sat through that whole vide doing other things as well while it played in the background, but jfc I ended up tuning most of it out cause it was the same shit over and over.
Does anyone have the "cunts" fb page that she kicked out or the link to where she talks about Raven on cwc.
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Anon on another thread brought up the queen of the night, let's see how she's been doing!
Her FB:
https://www.facebook.com/Vv.Raven.vVRaven recently had weight loss surgery. Head on over to her ablums to check out her recovery journey.
No. 179705
Let's not forget her childbride Logan
https://www.facebook.com/9.Dum.Spiro.Spero.9reviving this frankenstein thread so milk harvest will be ready just in time for halloween.
No. 179706
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Apparently bitches are still thirsty for Logan.
No. 179707
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lol so some dude stole their shit iono
No. 179708
>>179706ah those thirsty bitches are at it again
LEAVE LOGAN ALONE YOU WHORES
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Remember the whole christ church debacle, where she spent months asking for freebies and when one person GENTLY suggested she might want to recompense someone for her wedding cake or whatever, she got into an argument?
well, apparently the police is going to swipe all those well meaning christian ladies up
No. 184091
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>>184080He could have mommy issues.
Also, maybe brainwashing.
No. 291266
>>291262Dude, link?!
Oh how I've missed the milk straight from the raven cows teeters.
This is the moment I've waited for, her child bride passing age of maturity and suddenly her losing attention on him.
I smell that a new young goffik boy has been spotted prime for grooming, or will be soon.
She's also active om deviant art again, starbl00d or something over there and has lost some weight.
She still a jiggly cow no doubt though just a slightly thinner one.
No. 291271
>>20741Link and here's a transcript of it because you know she likes to delete stuff.
"Do you think you'll be married in 5 years?
..I hope so. I've been married almost 5 years now and…if he listens to me and takes me seriously then there's no reason that we shouldn't be married in another 5 years but right now we're going through some shit…uhm..he says that it's just me and I say it's not just me but I just feel like the romance is kind of dead in our relationship like he's throwing himself into work. He's like "Well we don't go anywhere, we don't do anything, what's the point of not working if there's work." So he's working 6, 7 days a week and…you know like 5 in the morning to 6 at night and my sleep is off and we can't sleep in the same room because he snoring, and kicking, and thrashing and he'll hold me and then he'll jerk and he'll scratch across my face, scratch across my stomach and he'll be kicking and I'm such a light sleeper so he's in another room. So we're not sleeping together, we're not seeing each other, we're not going out together…..he doesn't ever compliment me on the way I look or if I've lost weight it's just..he doesn't care about the way he looks. He's like "I'm growing up. I'm working. I'm changing." and he doesn't put any care into his appearance. He's not really shaving. He's not…just..it's all work. He's throwing himself so much into work. He's got no time for anything else and he's completely neglecting me and I just feel really mournful for the relationship that we had. And he's like "I still love you the same" and thinks I'm being ridiculous about it, but I'm not cause there's no reason for passion and romance to die in a relationship."
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Holy shit, she could legit play half of all the John Waters characters single handedly. I didn't know people looked like this unironically, what a mess.
No. 291389
>>291382Actually am really surprised he turned out quite well and normal even though he had that whole experience of being picked up by her and being molded into what she wanted in a little boy.
He seems to have stopped dressing goth too in recent photos on her Facebook of them together he looks like a completely normal guy no long hair anymore etc. No doubt this doesn't make her happy and is what raven is talking about when in the video she says " he stopped caring about his appearance" lol.
Raven, people fall in love for the persons personality and how they feel when together, NOT for their youth or their goffik awesome fashion and style you loon.
No wonder she goes for kids they're dumb enough to actually care about fitting into some style label and work at it and make it their whole lifes value and worship the ground she walks on as this goddess of goth because they don't know any better about what lifes really about. Basically it's cause mentally they are slightly dumber than she is so she can actually control them no wonder she can't stay with men her age or older for long, they'll catch on to her shit right away whereas a little boy may catch on years later when damage is done and brainwashing is complete.
Then this happens like how logans grown up and lost interest in this lame shit and just wants to have a happy normal life , working to support his family and life because he's able to and there's no kids he's gotta come home and spend time with and certainly no need to spend any more time than necessary with her when he could go to work and get paid. He's a stand up guy to do this but she's an idiot who wanted him to continue worshipping her and do what she says with no questions asked.
Finally the boy is realizing what he's gotten himself into and what he actually may want in life are not meeting up.
If he liked and loved her as a fatass and now that she's thinner doesn't want to spend time with her or sleep in same bed together then obviously shit not going too well.
The attraction was lost a long time ago and no weight loss surgery was going to change that because the whole reason the attraction was lost was because child bride is smartening up, something raven is not capable of doing herself or stopping.
No. 291429
>>291389>>291389Agreed 100%. Logan sounds like he's wising up and realizing that he's wasting his youth supporting a lazy stay at home do nothing and that he wants more out of life than to be her slave. Raven sounds like she only fell in love with his looks since she went on and on about that in her video. The way she talks about it is as if she has no concept of what a normal healthy relationship is like which is no surprise. Every other man she was with ran the hell away when they couldn't take her cray cray anymore so she found a child that she could brainwash (obvious by the way she says he hates other women that aren't her, that shit isn't normal). It's not healthy to have your partner act as your personal servant and he may be seeing that now.
Raven is a lazy trainwreck while Logan is working 2 jobs almost every day of the week and yet, she complains about how they're going to lose their house. I hope the guy finally does fully snap out of it since he seems to be growing up out of his teenage phase. Less goth clothes and more normal stuff and a hair cut look like signs, aside from the you know… Telling her he's growing up and changing. Having to work so hard is aging him too. That's a lot of stress. Logan is what, 21? and hasn't been able to experience or enjoy life yet.
No. 291474
>>291435I'm sure once he talks to his parents they would jump at the chance to help him. He's a kid who hasn't really done much to deserve Raven's classic YT shit talking.
Dorian I feel bad for. He doesn't have anyone to go to and seems to be picking up his mother's habits.
No. 291488
>>291271it's so messed up that she's well into her 40's and still completely stuck in her teenybopper goffik mentality, even her childgroom is far more mature than her. I don't know how she has the audacity to complain about him working so much when he does it so she can sit on her ass at home all day.
He must have a really hardcore fetish for old ladies or something, because I have no idea why any remotely sane person would put up with being a slave for an ungrateful sea hag with the mind of a spoilt 14 year old.
No. 291844
>>291568The funny/sad thing too is I'm her video "why I moved to new zealand" she mentioned some girl she knew or lived with who she called such a bitch and asshole for having a kid and then telling people not to say she has a kid and her own kid not to call her mom.
Then raven goes om to say how she felt so bad for the poor kid as he wanted a mom so bad he started calling raven mom…
Okay raven, sure.
You're this wonderful mother and everyone else is not. Ooookay there.
When you're the one who has evidence out there of you shaming your own son and wishing he hadn't been born.
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>>20741Just going to leave this here. She also went and put up pictures of the guy with the comments.
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>>20741She's such a prude yet almost all the rest of her clothes barely cover anything.
No. 293110
>>293108There is also this self diagnosing of autism as well. Apparently having 2 crazy disorders isn't good enough for her and she wants to label herself with a third.
Each of these topics have mult videos for them so I'm not posting everything about it. But don't worry she is still the same. There is also videos of her trying things on if you want to see her weight loss and how slutty her outfits were, her hoarding collection of books and stuff she refuses to sell while she says she is barely affording rent and other childish things. She dyed her hair red and blue but hated that it wasn't "unique" since new Harley is like that.
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>>293132Logan's grandparents took them to the mall for "early birthday gifts" and then she just got a new dress that Logan had bought her and wrapped for Christmas that she guilt tripped him into giving her something because she's been on a "you don't love me because you're always gone and working, you're neglecting me" tirade.
She claims they are so poor and always about to be homeless and shit but they're always buying stuff, like every other time she posts something it's about something new she has that's always some kind of gift, like birthday, anniversary, etc. Or some guy has bought her something.
No. 293286
>>293241Same here anon, I take care of the house while I'm not working because I'm not a lazy piece of shit like Raven.
I was reading through her post about the two early christmas presents and how she's worried about replacing those two presents on the actual day.
She reminds me of Dudley Dursley.
No. 293412
>>293405I don't even know why she opened them early then. Like she could have easily said "I want to wait so I still have presents on Xmas." Like it's not that hard of a conversation to have.
But this is Raven and everything has to be dramatized in her life.
No. 293433
>>293420I'm seeing a trend with the goffiks, because their every mundane detail of their life has to be brodcasted they have to explain why they are constantly getting new shit.
Like people are supposed to care whether a 40 year old loser is getting anything for Christmas.
Most people are going to eye roll at your claims of poverty if your biggest concern isn't keeping a roof over your head, but your concern surrounds your hideous over priced goth garbage.
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>>20741Can't have money to pay bills but look at this new $16 lip tar I got that I don't know how to apply properly.
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>>293804Also, this response picture on how her brows are "on point".
No. 293858
>>293814Not sure about the rest as it's plausible
But I doubt that lump of flesh her (our) left side of her eye is just glitter.
No. 293867
>>293805I am
triggered by those brows. Damn, why?
No. 294734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djjd8Ex66zwNew video of hers, over an hour long.
She thinks we're mean old bullies, because we're still talking about her, even though she's changed.
She says she fixed her make-up.
Her attitude.
Stopped harping on Dorian, and did some harping on Dorian in the video itself.
Lost weight.
Then she talked about how Logan is just a workaholic who works to fund his Pokémon addiction.
Her tattoos are totally not a hindrance to her getting a job. We're supposedly all NEET's, so we're hypocrites for criticizing her for not having a job.
Basically she's totally over us, which is why she made an over hour long video telling us what big bullies we are.
No. 294757
>>294667Lolololol she doesn't even know who Chris is. Hey Raven, Chris is a guy who pretends he's a woman, Christine, because he's an autist and thinks he'll finally get a gf if he's a lesbian
This video is so stupid
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>>294734"I'm they're whole world" get over yourself, raven. I mostly come here for Margo and onion. I just check your thread when there's no milk from them.
No. 294773
>>294734MFW Raven can't even remember the word "lurking".
And OF COURSE she doesn't lurk – she just happened to recently see the site (guided here, no doubt, by some protective "friend") – and was prompted to produce an almost 72 minute rebuttal. Even though she isn't bothered by our opinions. Oh, and she's TOTALLY changed, guize, so we should leave it off!!!
Raven cannot distinguish between superficial differences and deep, transformative change. She is utterly clueless – and that is what makes her a Lolcow.
No. 294785
>>294768It's hilarious that she thinks everyone on here gives that much of a shit about her. If it weren't for the one anon reviving this thread, no one would've noticed her.
>>294773>she's TOTALLY changed, guizeThe thing I find funniest about her insisting how she's changed and tries to be a better person is that in the same breath, she suggests that if she found out who one of us were, she'd murder us, and she wishes us slow and painful deaths. Lovely.
No. 294794
>>294785Technically it was Josh that revived it. He was going around bumping old threads in some pathetic attempt to make people mad.
Tbh I was glad it got bumped, I had totally forgotten about the Raven saga and I missed the drama.
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No. 294922
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>>294919No one can take the place of our queen!
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>We all have carried our years well
Nah, you look exactly what your age should be but even more ridiculous with all that shit in your face and bad tattoos.
No. 294991
>>294987>>294988And she'd look better without a shitton of piercings in her face. Some would still look good but the weird ones near her temple and under eye? No.
No one was calling her wrinkled either.
No. 294998
>>294992Tbh she would be fine with just the medusa's. I feel like even the septum is unflattering on her because her nose is wider. And at her age it just seems pretentious. I'm probably one of Ravens biggest "haters" but I am glad she's at least TRYING to do better makeup.
I just wish she would go for a more "adult goth" look. Like black blouses and bants as opposed to hot topic graphic tees and piercings.
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We're so poor and never have food and always late on bills but I'm going to use this $45 from youtube to get another shitty tattoo.
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>>294987Her face really reminds me of that of a Basset Hound.
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>>295059Wat. Why did she think that would be good YT content?
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"I hate girls who show their tits, cover up no one wants to see that shit, I'm such a prude when it comes to nudity."
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She may have lost weight, but her body is still horrible. Looks kind of like a granny, with how low her boobs hang and the huge fupa.
No. 295290
>>295266Not trying to defend Raven – as a person I find her entirely repulsive – but I DO believe that Logan really loves and is devoted to her.
There's no accounting for taste.
No. 295296
>>295290I don't know if I totally believe that. He is still very young and I am sure that in a few years his tastes might change and he will probably want someone closer to his age, and someone who doesn't have constant drama.
Also, whenever I have seen a video she's uploaded that he is in, he just seems awkward. I don't think that I have ever seen a video they're both in where he seems like he is having a genuinely good time, or like he is just being himself.
Then again, I honestly can't imagine having to put up with someone like Raven. It seems like she has put her entire existence into her youtube channel and online persona, and that she has more and more drama every time you look. I mean, we haven't even said shit about her in how long and she had to upload not one but TWO videos, full of misinformation, about how we are supposedly obsessed with her? She wants the attention, clearly. If she had learned anything the first time around, she would have just ignored us.
No. 295344
>>295342Fairy bird?
It's a mystery.
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"i dont look my age"
no raven of course you dont lmao
No. 296190
>Dorian wouldn't get on welfare so I kicked him out and MY feelings were so hurt, and I told him not to come back, so he lived in a homeless shelter and told me he loved it there but then mysteriously got kicked out and I let him come back EVEN THOUGH MY FEELINGS WERE SO HURT, I'M A GOOD MOM OKAY.
>People tell me not to give the bullies attention, but everyone handles things differently, I'M DIFFERENT, and if I don't give them attention then I'm not fighting back, AND OF COURSE THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME NEEDING CONSTANT ATTENTION.
>I make all my videos MONTHS in advance guys. Don't complain about me putting out a haul video because I swear it's a 5 month old video, I'M NOT WASTING MONEY OK JUST BACK OFF.
>Oh btw people are asking me if I have a P.O. box because I am so popular and everyone wants to send me gifts so if you message me I'll give you my address, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE ALL THESE BULLIES OUT THERE HATING ON ME, it's totally just because you're all asking me, and now let me tell you all the things I would like.
whining and excuses, not like everyone isn't totally used to that by now when it comes to Raven. so stupid that she's trying to make it seem like people ASKED about a P.O. box and that it isn't just her trying to push people to send her stuff.
No. 296192
samefagging to add, I know someone mentioned her GoFundMe recently.
https://www.gofundme.com/24wc778
>she is legally blind and her eyes are failing. >i want to give her the gift of good eyesight as she has never known life without glasses or contacts.wearing glasses and contacts doesn't make a person legally blind. how retarded are her friends, really. so glad that no one has donated to this cow.
No. 296224
>>296192someone donated a fucking 50. I don't even.
She's not even holding it herself some dude from TX is doing it.
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No. 296286
>>296256You were watching her videos but needed Lolcow Farm to tell you she's crazy? Ok…
And what goes on here is super tame compared to Kiwi Farm.
Ps: learn to quote to we know who you are responding to
No. 296288
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CLEAN YOUR HOUSE RAVEN. YOU SIT ON YOUR FAT ASS ALL DAY. DO HOUSEWORK
No. 296358
>>296288>>296348Oh, but special snowflake Raven can't clean house because her tailbone is damaged and it keeps her from working and other duties that us average Joes deign to perform. We're such haters for expecting baby girl to do ANYTHING about her dire situation because we don't know her how much she hurts, OMG.
Also, I've been wondering: WHY, if she so badly needs the laser surgery or whatever for her eyes, did she have the gastric/lap band procedure? Seems to me if her sight was so important, she should have done that then begged on the Internet for funds for the weight loss surgery.
I'm just sayin'.
No. 296405
>>296288Photos like this
trigger my need to clean. Brb, going to rearrange the house
God damnit, Raven! Clean your nasty home!!!
No. 296733
>>296719She can't tell the difference between Lolcow and Kiwifarms it seems. If she was going to make a 71 minute long video then the least she could have done was do her research properly.
She barely got any traffic since these threads died out, and we've only noticed her again because someone necroed the thread and we saw she was up to her old shit again. If she had actually changed then no one would have cared. She is incapable of surviving without some kind of drama. When it isn't us "bullying her", it's her fighting with her supposed friends. When it's not that, it's something to do with Dorian. When it's not that, it's a miscarriage. The woman doesn't know how to shut up.
No. 296828
>>296827She could have easily asked about it, and then just pretended she had watched it. Like she could have just posted a bunch of pictures from the show or whatever and been like 'omg love this show guys!'. If she really wants to be relevant that badly, she should probably learn to fake it to keep people interested, because fat aging mallgoths aren't trendy anymore.
Also it's stupid that she'll ask about things, but then turn around and find reasons to hate it. Like, of all the things, "oh no I hate Winona, fuck that show". Makes no sense to me. I'd love to see her husband get into it tbh, I bet she'd make a whole video complaining about it if he did.
No. 296836
>>296831She could save herself the headache of explaining the significance behind her getting new shit all of the time by NOT making videos about her new shit.
She feels guilty, and yet feels compelled to show off her crap.
she based her improvements on what people gave her shit for on an imageboard, that's pretty damn sad. This is not a very good foundation for her progress, as long as she posts shit like this she is giving us a reason to talk about her.
No. 296840
>>296833And then will whine in a few days "we have nothing to eat and can't pay bills and Logan lost his job again and we're going to be homeless."
It's like there's no saving money, just spend it all on shit all at one time.
No. 296845
>>296833Seriously, the Monster High dolls are even worse, she was showing off the prices on most of them - $29.99. She claims that they were on sale for $22.00, but that's still ridiculous. At least two of those dolls were $40.00 + as well. I mean, the Funko figures are bad too, but they're not as bad in comparison.
>>296840Of course there's no saving. I'm sure that even if Dorian did try to save, she'd still find a way to guilt him into letting her spend it. The two of them are so childish though that I doubt that they're making the effort to save at all.
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HAHAHAHA yet it's totally fine to show of your fetuses remains and post "attention whore" shit all the time. God the hypocrisy is strong in this one!
No. 296992
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"i constantly get told i don't look 40"
No. 297059
>>296998Ice Cream Soda Budget brand
Are there any dox? I live near her and would be able to tell you what sort of life she lives by the location of her house.
No. 297849
>>296845He's seriously just a child almost.
I know technically he is an adult,but I'm sure Raven didn't help teach him how to grow into being an adult.
No. 297982
In her new video she is very apologetic, really seems like she is trying to address our criticisms before we even make them.
Then also a rant on how she was the first with blue hair and now everyone and their grandma is copying it, so she had to dye it purple.
She's still saying she's making videos as a crusade against us.
Still saying she's not a cow anymore, but strong and happy, and that she'll fight back.
She thinks we're making intricate battle plans, and are very masterly trying to manipulate her.
She keeps blabbing on on how we're not original.
Then she says we and kiwifarms are blackmailing her, but that actually she could blackmail us. (How?) And that she's super innocent.
>Everyone has nipples and everyone has tits, I'd flash you if it was allowed on Youtube.
But she's so innocent, and the only person out there that's not a whore.
Keeps going on on how she's totally not fat, but she still has quite a double chin.
She's daring us to troll her apparently.
Then also, she can't find a house big enough for her hoarder antics basically.
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>Then she says we and kiwifarms are blackmailing her, but that actually she could blackmail us. (How?) And that she's super innocent.
The black mailing us thing. She joined an autistic justice league against kiwi farms for a hot 3 seconds before Keagle deleted it. Someone pointed out that kiwi farms hunts pedos and shit bags and basically asked what category they got into. They also halfassed tried to dox Bull's mom. Raven had a classy response about how she'd kick out her kid if he ran such a forum
No. 298613
>>298612 *Null's mom
Sorry autocorrect
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Lol which one is it?
No. 299090
She made a new video with her piercings and how she pierces. She "changed the bars" on her lip piercings so they look straight. I'm a piercer and I know for a fact that just changing her bars to flat-backed posts will NOT make them look straight considering how crooked they were before. In an earlier video, her lip piercings were legitimately on top of her lip, touching her top lip. In the update video they are so far inside her lips that she had to pull her bottom lip all the way down to show them. Unless she's like three times as swollen as regular people (which wouldn't surprise me considering how she described the way she "pierces") or she's re-done them, there's no way they sit like that compared to how they used to sit.
She tries to be such a hipster too. "I had blue hair before other people!" "but now everyone else has blue hair too so it's lame".
And she's right, she doesn't look 40. She looks 30 with all her makeup, harsh lighting, and her glasses. With regular lighting, no makeup, and no glasses, she looks at least 45, maybe even 50.
Seeing her look like a mall-goth at that age is so sad. She has a wonderful opportunity to dress more mature while still looking alternative/goth, thereby showing other alternative people that you can be alternative while more mature, but instead she chooses to look like a shitty mall goth which ages her more.
I didn't think she was too bad at first. I saw one of her videos and thought eh, but didn't hate her. Then I saw one of her shorter Lolcow videos and thought "wow, this girl really is obsessed with this forum". I went on the forum to check it out and jee whizz, no wonder she's obsessed with lolcow. She feeds off drama and wants to pretend she's a victim, yet at the same time I think she's scared that people are exposing her here.
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>>299090Hahaha. "I had blue first." Also her hair is FAR from healthy and thick.
No. 299487
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She finally listened to someone about her hair being damaged and now looks like one of those people who shaved the side of their head and is trying to grow it back out. Kek.
No. 299739
>>299506Doesn't her ex still foot the bill for all that shit too? If so, that's creepy lol.
>>299508No she's just lazy. That's it.
I don't get how she's able to be an American and live in NZ (and possibly be on the dole since she doesn't work), like are NZ's immigration/benefits laws really that lax? Seriously my only experience with immigration is UK and yeah they're ridiculously strict (when you're a skilled worker, lol) but how are people able to go anywhere and just leech like that? Like I'm assuming she gets some sort of tugboat because her childbride can't seem to hold down a job for whatever reason and they can still afford to live somewhere and buy shitty cheap makeup.
Also we shit on cows like Raven, Kailyn, Chrischan for not having jobs, but honestly can you imagine working with someone like that? Maybe tugboats really are the best option for some people.
No. 299787
>>299739As someone who just moved from the US to a different country, it's quite easy to obtain a visa for most places. As long as you have a sponsor or enough money and don't have a criminal background, you're pretty much in.
As far as disability, since she's never worked since she got there, it's possible she started abusing the free healthcare system and started to build a case on which to get disability whenever she got a citizenship.
No. 299900
>>299787OK so it's just UK and some other western countries that are really dicks about it. Thanks.
>it's possible she started abusing the free healthcare system and started to build a case on which to get disability whenever she got a citizenship.You mean by like doctorshopping or something? She looks like someone who would doctorshop to get the results that she wants, but I didn't think that was as easy in nationalized healthcare schemes as it is in privatized ones.
No. 300261
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You can see how bad her skin is when it's not washed out with a light. Imagine seeing it in person.
No. 300340
>>300294If she wasn't such an all rounder as a trainwreck, my advice to her would be: you can't pull goth off with a big potato nose and a swollen as fuck face, probably from her terrible life choices. You need either angular or very fine features to pull that look off. Plastering her pasty jowls up in white makes her face look even fatter than it is.
Not that she'll ever take any advice, but Jesus.
No. 300514
>>300261Oh no… How does any fully-grown woman look like this? That's the skin of an angsty 15-year-old boy who lives off redbull and fast food. I've never seen an adult with skin like that in my life.
Also what is up with those dirt-caked neck lines
No. 300522
>>300514>That's the skin of an angsty 15-year-old boy who lives off redbull and fast food.Tbh, she practically is one. When she was fat, she'd always go on about how much she misses the processed food in America and how New Zealand's food is so gross.
I think the reason her skin looks like that is because of her diet and she probably thinks she doesn't have to do anything with her skin because she's ~Asian~. Her and Logan constantly go on about how Asians have magical genetics that prevent them from aging and white people all age terribly.
No. 300646
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>>300522>Asians have magical geneticsWell, it's obviously not working. Maybe she's not Asian enough. She looks half ogre, at least. Pic related, it's my genetic reference.
No. 300826
>>300646sage bc I'm years out of touch with Raven drama
but iirc she's not full asian? wasn't she before talking about being pure aryan or something but turning out to be half Indonesian or something?
anyway the magic asian anti aging gene is a lie, it's all skin care routines and staying out of the sun, etc. somehow white people i talk to don't get this No. 300831
>>300826She's half Thai and half German.
I'm not sure about her saying she was white but I do remember when she first got our attention, someone made a comment saying something along the lines of, "I wouldn't have guessed that she was Asian, she looks like a fat white trash woman." Raven said that it was good because she wants to look white. But I guess she's proud of being Asian now since it seems like Logan has an Asian fetish. (I came to this conclusion since Logan mentioned being obsessed with Asian/Japanese stuff and I would bet money that Raven/Dorian are the only Asians Logan knows so that's probably why he settled for Raven)
>anyway the magic asian anti aging gene is a lie, it's all skin care routines and staying out of the sun, etc. somehow white people i talk to don't get thisThis.
No. 300841
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her newest video she goes out and gets hideous tattoos with her childbride and she drags her poor son along and the best part is neither of them look like they want to be there at all haha.
She got some kind of butterfly on her throat so any hopes we had of her somehow miraculously waking up and getting off her ass and employed have been dashed.
Shes just so much scarier and older looking in motion its actually quite jarring.
No. 301131
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>>300340>If she wasn't such an all rounder as a trainwreck, my advice to her would be: you can't pull goth off with a big potato noseMall goths who are too old for the edgy shit with big ugly potato noses seem to be a thing for some reason.
>>300261Jesus tap dancing CHRIST, her skin looks awful. I don't get what the fuck she has to brag about there.
>>300841This poor child will never have a normal family life… Raven always wants people to pity her, but people only feel bad for the children she fucking enslaved.
No. 301280
>>301257…whut? How can they afford those when she's always complaining about how "poor" they are? Her YouTube channel isn't making
that much.
No. 301312
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Showing your age again
No. 301593
>>301580For real.
is this some other youtube goth or just someone from her FB friends list.
No. 301617
>>301593She was on the British show Snog, Marry, Avoid with her then boyfriend CJ, where they take over the top people and turn them into "natural beauties". She has a small foot in the youtube goth scene because of the show. Video is of her and CJ from the show.
But pretty much Raven is jelly of her and won't shut up about her or Emily's ex CJ because after they split, Raven and CJ dated for a while online before CJ told her to fuck off. And as we know by now, Raven is never in the wrong and it's totally not her fault that she keeps harassing Emily trying to be friends with her all the same time constantly bringing up all the drama that happened between the 3 of them YEARS ago. Emily Boo is her youtube name.
No. 301619
>>301617I just checked out some videos on her channel. She's
way more likable and better styled than Raven.
No. 301663
>>301619Isnt raven like double Emily's age?
Emily seems to have the family life raven wishes she had
No. 301735
>>301727At one point they were friends for a short time and Emily sent some gifts to Raven. But Raven can't let the past go and still won't stop talking about the whole CJ thing. So Emily has had enough of her shit which is good for her. She has her own family and shit to deal with in an entirely different part of the earth.
Raven has even claimed that Emily named her child after the one Raven was going to name but then miscarried. So no matter how hard Emily tries to get along with Raven, Raven just won't have it and pretends to like her and get pity from people who then in turn harass Emily into forgiving Raven. Which then is all a vicious cycle.
No. 301741
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damn bitch is fugly
No. 301745
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She looks older than 40
No. 301753
>>301617lol figures raven would date cj
He's a total bum weedhead and a leech basically. No job, no future and the maturity levels of a teenage boy
No. 301758
>>301753He's at least age appropriate.
It seems that he likes them young too though, 23 years old when he met 14 year old Emily.
No. 301759
>>301757Alex, this is a anonymous image board.
Don't be stupid Alex.
No. 301776
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She looks quite pretty in this picture.
No. 301778
>>301776compared to her usual self, yes
compared to average looking person, no
No. 301816
>>301787There's nothing that can fix her nose other than surgery, but the eyebrows look a bit better. Real ones would be best.
Cute cat though.
No. 302044
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No. 302637
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No. 302658
>>302637She looks like she's in her 40s. Just an unkempt, unhealthy 40 year old woman who does not take care of herself.
And I think her getting a nose job would be a disaster. She has a freakin fat face. Even though her body is much thinner her face is as puffy as ever. If she had a thin nose it would off set the rest of her facial features. This cow would need full facial construction.
No. 302665
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>>302658She may look in her forties, but it's not a human forties. I don't think we have a single other cow, not even the fatties like Mess Dumpster, who look as much as a troll as raven. Nothing can save that face, but not smearing half a ton of white gossik crap on it would at least make it stand out less.
No. 302667
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>>302665This is what she reminds me of.
No. 303030
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>>303020Those prices shouldn't even be that big of a deal unless you eat those chocolates by the bucketfull
No. 303379
>>303030Yeah lol. And with that Lindor shit (which is like $5-6 in the states too so I duno what she's complaining about here) just one square will do you. It's good rich stuff tbh.
but it's Raven and what is self control lol
No. 303519
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>>303164Well keep in mind she deffo filters and shoops
No. 303549
>>303541Saaaaame lol. It's not just ship costs that make it expensive though, although those are huge (anyone who's tried to send a package outside the US will tell you); taxes and customs charges on top of it. Sorry but fancy import food even if it is just goddamn pop tarts is a luxury, and when I lived in Scotland I learned to enjoy Scottish snacks. The other huge expensive thing she's shown in videos is meat, but like, other countries don't eat fucktons of meat like America does, and America does meat cheaply (massive feedlot operations as opposed to letting animals just graze on pasture etc). And how small NZ is a lot of stuff is probably imported anyway. Raven's been in NZ forever and probably doesn't even consider Kiwi stuff an option (just watching her snack aisle tour video I want that bag of "Kiwi Party Mix" tho tbh but I'm a sucker for gummies). She's so fixated on America so she should go back, except if she moved back to the states she would have to get a job probably because America isn't as generous as other english speaking countries with tugboat. Ofc if she got a job in NZ maybe she'd be able to afford dumb treat america snacks sometimes without complaining because their minimum wage is like twice what it is in most parts of the US, but she'll never do that either. in B4 "a hand job is still a job" cos she a ho.
Raven loves to put herself in situations on her own accord and then complain when shit doesn't work out perfectly for her. That's some personality disordered shit too.
No. 303557
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She's such a prude but let me post up this vagina mask.
No. 303768
>>303556Yeah but she's been bitching about how awful NZ is since before she got with her childbride.
She chose this life.
No. 304278
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>>303557Maybe if she wore this Logan would fuck her more.
No. 304289
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No. 305159
>>305135She loves the drama. Nothing is happening in her life so why not make a video about talking shit over a comment on YouTube.
No wonder she has no friends.
No. 305161
>>305135and for the love of fuck edit out those loud ass, nasty coughs of yours.
It's like yelling into the microphone, it's abrupt and fucking gross [and rude]
No. 305265
>>305255Mentally (at least how she portrays herself on yt) she reminds me of a 16 year old edge lord.
Also, calling yourself a "prude" doesn't make you one. No matter how many times you say it.
No. 305353
>>305135She really is easily
triggered. I mean,
really? I've seen worse comments on other small channels and they give zero fucks. Raven just proves that trolling her would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Such an idiot.
>>305161I really wish she would. It'd make her complaining ass videos a lot more tolerable. Jump cuts aren't
that bad if you can get rid of something as annoying as a loud elephant cough.
No. 306193
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Looking stunning as ever.
No. 306347
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Because non-cunty people just reply with the right spelling and not leave the definition of the wrong one or you know, ignore it and not start an arguement. But wait! Can't tell her that either or you're ignorant and getting blocked and deleted so she can get more friend requests accepted as she has so much! (in the comments of her post, someone told her to just ignore and replied as such).
No. 306415
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Ahhh hello real raven. Welcome back your fucking psychopath
No. 306416
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No. 306528
>>306415She is such a hypocrite. She hounds Kiwifarms and criticizes them/us for the exact same thing she is ranting on about here. She is a 40 year old woman who has learnt nothing but how to be an indulgent cry baby.
I mean seriously - was all this raving started from 1 comment left on her video or what?
No. 307004
>>306978I gather she just wants to be relevant.
She wants a more successful youtuber to talk about her.
She won't stop until Emily talks about her.
She hates lolcow for nitpicking?
She's the queen of talking shit.
No. 307192
>>307086Yup lol. Or something along the lines of it's only ok when she does it, i duno. She's probably high off her own farts rn tbh. She seems like the sort of smug own-farts-sniffer.
>>306998Wow really? Eugh.
No. 307308
>>307273"I'm never talking about Emily ever again!" Proceeds to make a whole video within 24 hours of last one to keep talking about her.
She's said how many times now that she doesn't have problems with her yet won't drop it? But says there's people who want updates on her, emily and cj…..sure Jan.
No. 307816
>>307800Did she ingest paint chips as a child or something? I'm trying to figure out how she got this incredibly stupid.
Can't take tattoo and tackle face lecturing others about life choices seriously.
Tbh I bet she's hoping to guilt some young pregnant teens into making the same stupid decision that she did. She must be bitter to be so old, ugly, and a loser so why not drag another person down to her level while she's at it? You can totally tell she thinks she's some kind of martyr for going through with a pregnancy that obviously did her no good. She's got a case of sour grapes and envies the young women who don't get themselves roped into the void she threw herself in for no damn reason.
What a legacy.
No. 307825
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>>307816There is really no excuse for being as dumb as she is. And it must have rubbed off on Dorian, or he'd disappeared a long ass time ago. He could have deleted facebook, joined a gym, and lawyered up to get rid of her. he could have joined the army.
Instead he prefers to whitenight an ugly middle aged fatass trainwreck who has always loved him a lot less than one of these things.
No. 307851
>>307816Yup. I also think another reason why she is against abortion is because she can't have any more children herself, so she is envious of those who can but have to abort them
>>307800"If you can't afford a baby, don't have sex" - someone tell Raven it's not as simple as that. What if the condom tore? What if the couple took all the necessary precautions but it still happened anyway? and what if they were raped!? But as you said she doesn't think coercive sex is rape… She really is repulsive inside and out.
No. 307863
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>>307859Yes, some of those dolls actually look cute, if they're well made and don't have a skin color that makes them look like a baby corpse. But she's got a ginger one that looks terrible. But at least it has better nails than raven.
No. 307865
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>>307851She doesn't deserve another pregnancy, ever. She's among the worst mothers alive.
No. 307876
>>307865holy
shit
who says that.
No. 308142
>>308087Childbirth is more likely to causing scarring than simple chemical abortions, especially if the person's had c-section. If she was dumb enough with her first pregnancy to get kicked out of her house, become homeless, and had no employment then I'm not sure what kind of situation
would have made her seek abortion short of death. She's too damn stupid.
No. 308164
>>308142If she were "scraped" rather than having the medical abortion (taking two sets of pills to terminate pregnancy) then she probably does have damage.
She reminds me of onision so much.
She is everything she hates about the world.
Try to not be such a shit person Raven, we see right through you.
No. 308363
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Lol recent comment on Emily Boo's new video, I could see her making an entire video on it "I am NOT obsessed, it's because people ask me for updates on Emily, me and CJ" sure jan.
No. 308684
>>308424>"Dorian's" birth storyPsh, more like her sob story about how she feels like she was robbed of her motherhood experience because she acted like an arrogant teen. Poor Dorian.
Nothing was prepared for that child. No baby stuff, not even a welcoming family at the hospital when he was born, and then he had to be dragged all over hell without a stable home or parental relationship. Just wow. How "pro life" of Raven to bestow upon her son a deplorable lifestyle just for her own ego. This is why teens suck as being "moms." The lot of them only care what others think and rarely do things to help out their own children if it means they can't play mommy anymore.
I can't believe she didn't give that kid over to her mother and father, so they could at least make sure he saw a doctor!
And then she claims nobody ever helped her, but it's the things she
doesn't mention that prove someone was helping her. Like how she doesn't mention a hospital bill, or who paid for the baby's food, etc. She makes her mom out to be a monster but clearly she tried her best to deal with her mooching daughter and her terrible life choice. She has such an ugly attitude and can't take responsibility for what happened.
No. 308742
>>308696After her weight loss surgery (paid for by the government apparently), she didn't do any sort of exercise aside from walking. I don't get it. If you're going to get weight loss surgery, why
wouldn't you do some at home workouts? She buys so much useless shit, she could at least buy some fitness equipment to tone up. Her body looks so flabby.
No. 308780
>>308664She looks kind of "skinny fat" there. Her legs are slim but her belly isn't. That would be helped if she just exercised and cut down on the food but she's clearly too fucking lazy. That's usually the case with people who have weight loss surgery as opposed to actually putting the effort in with diet/exercise, they see the surgery as a quick fix and don't bother changing their lifestyle
>>308742Yeh and she still eats crap by the looks of it. She keeps complaining about NZ not having all the disgusting junk food America has, but she should be grateful for that otherwise she'd be back at her old weight very quickly.
No. 308822
>>308804Looks like it bahaha, and matching t-shirts pmsl. Can't be bothered watching it either and that title says it all, she's just making Logan say whatever shit she wants him to say
>>308805I didn't realize it was a video, just watched a bit and she definitely isn't slim but from that shot alone her calves don't look big to me, the rest of her certainly does though
No. 308872
>>308861In here book haul video she talked about how much she liked her true crime book about that very thing.
She more or less said she could see why someone would want to do that.
No. 308917
>>308804Recap
-Logan is dumber than Raven.
- thinks a fetus can fear things
- feels that only people who are fucktards are getting pregnant accidently
- getting multiple abortions is genocide
- yet he is "open minded"
- my body my choice mindset is antifeminist, because you don't think of the dude
Raven thinks you should apply to get an abortion (little does she know we did that for a bit and it was not worth). She also dismisses how
Listening to two uneducated people for half an hour is rough. The rest of the video is that she doesn't want to talk about what she said about Dorian and other rambling.
No. 308922
>>308804 I can't be arsed to watch watch the video – Raven's endless yammering drives me insane – but how long have she and Logan been married? Dude used to be hot – now he looks fat and haggard.
I think she's feeding on his life force.
No. 308927
>>308804Lol talking about denying the baby's father the right to be a father.
What about Raven's babydaddy from Dorian? Was he ever in the picture?
Some men want to sow their wild oats all over the place, but they don't ever want to be dads, and then women get stuck with all the responsibility of looking after a child, as well as, ya know, having to grow a thing inside them for 9 months and have it crawl out of their vagina. But who even cares about all that? Not Logan.
>>308917>-Logan is dumber than Raven. Well he's still with Raven and got with her in the first place, so yes. Although how of it is Raven's brainwashing over the years a la Onision/Lamey, and how much is just him being dumb (also a la Onision/Lamey imo) is a mystery.
No. 308929
>>308872fucksake.
new rule: don't be pregnant around Raven.
No. 308940
>>308836Probably so she can collect more welfare and not out of a sincere interest to nurture a guide a child through life. She couldn't even satisfy doing that with her own biological child
which is his fault, I'm sure.
>>308917Too bad there's no application to be a parent. She would have been rejected long ago, Dorian would have went to a stable environment, and Raven would not be able to play struggling single mom victim card.
No. 308954
>>308917>-my body my choice mind is antifeminist, because you don't think of the dudeArghhh this woman infuriates me. It's easy for "the dude" - he can just fuck and leave (like Dorian's father did!) He doesn't have to take responsibility for his actions, his body isn't burdened for 9 months and then for life by a baby he might not have wanted in the first place.
>Raven thinks you should apply to get an abortionWomen who want an abortion still have to go through a lengthy process all the while being ridiculed and made to feel bad for their choice
>>308927>Some men want to sow their wild oats all over the place, but they don't ever want to be dads, and then women get stuck with all the responsibility of looking after a child, as well as, ya know, having to grow a thing inside them for 9 months and have it crawl out of their vagina. But who even cares about all that? Not Logan.Exactly.
No. 308973
>>308969Sorry I was trying to edit my post and accidentally deleted that chunk of text responding to your question:
"I don't think they did, but someone left a comment saying that they had done just that (fell pregnant despite using protection and terminated the pregnancy) and Raven replied saying that was ok. Yet in the other video she said "don't have sex if you can't afford a baby" and other similar shit. She contradicts herself as fucking always. Long story short she's just pissy that she can't get pregnant and others can"
No. 309033
>>308836Raven clearly doesn't know how expensive it is to carry an unwanted child to full term. No surprise there at all.
>>308990It should be illegal for two adults to be so god damn stupid and misinformed. I'm not surprised that he's so ignorant about protection and a woman's body. The overwhelming majority of pro-birth men don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
No. 309042
>>308990I don't get people who feel that if someone fucks up on contraception and is therefore a retard, they deserve to get "punished" by having to bring a mini version of themselves into the world. Do they actually want there to be more stupid people? You'd think that if someone hates dumbasses that much they'd be 100% in favor of them aborting.
If it were someone like Onion I'd believe there was an ulterior motive (teenagers & pregnancy being fetishes of his, and teenage mothers being more likely to raise daughters who also get pregnant young so the cycle of fap fodder keeps going) but with someone like Logan idk. With Raven I suppose she just wants everyone else to be as miserable as she is.
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>>309063My, my Raven back again?
No. 309097
>>309063I've only ever had temporary bans from the chins, and the last one is over a year ago, but that aside.
Speaking of rejects, Raven is a name that doesn't suit someone who looks like the hybrid offspring of a troll and an orc. Sparks doesn't suit someone who never put any effort into anything that wasn't whining about how everything is unfair, who's never done a day of work.
You are still a fat lardette, flabby all around in spite of weight loss surgery. Your face already looks big enough without the white clown grease paint.
You want a baby, but you had a baby, Dorian, and you ruined him because you're a directionless, worthless piece of shit. You were never a mother to him, he only existed to validate whatever you wanted, because everything always has to be about you. You should have protected him, and all you ever do is level abuse at him.
You were able to seduce a sixteen year old because his IQ is barely above retard level, and now you intent to leech off him for the rest of his life, living in your As-Seen-On-Hoarders hovel.
You never do anything that has any meaning, you never say anything that has any meaning, but people marveling at the fact that a freak like you exists are the rejects?
No. 309143
>>309063Wow, that was… disappointing. Vicky Shingles' chimp-out was far more entertaining.
Two thumbs down.
No. 309690
>>309495That and I bet two pay checks worth that raven doesn't cook. Well rather doesn't cook good food that isn't just microwaveable or filled with unneeded fatty shit like ramen
saged cause I'm stoned and it may have been said already
No. 309721
>>309690Raven cooks and unsurprisingly, it's food that's not good for you in the first place. I'm grossed out by the way she doesn't use any tools or gloves. Gagging irl
Really, if you're not going to use meat at
least put some leafy greens in there.
No. 309735
>>309721Not to defend Raven but who the Fuck cooks their own food with gloves? That's some OCD shit right there.
Regardless that lasagne looks like an 8000 calorie clogged artery mess.
No. 309752
>>309710Probably whores herself out to her ex husband
>>309721In the description she says she's an "excellent cook" yet she uses store bought sauce..
No. 309766
>>309710>I don't think I remember how she got her house.Probably the equivalent of Section 8 here in the US; heavily discounted rent a la gubment. The better question is what do any of them do to afford a living at all?
>>309721All that shit came from a box or a can. She can't cook for shit and lasagna is a famous entree for lazy shits who want to
prove they know how to mix something in a bowl and toss it in the oven. Looks like shit for lasagna to boot.
No. 310004
>>309721how much calories is this shit?
>dorian is no longer theredid he move out on his own?
No. 310053
>>309735No one says she needs gloves but she should have washed her hands when switching from meat to anything else. She could have mixed the cheese with a spoon or with a machine, she didnt need to hand mix any of that. It is fine to use your hands for baking but for meals you typically dont need to at all.
This is such a basic meal, tomato sauce is crazy easy to make but she didnt, the cheese is gross since the portions are crazy. The fact that she is going to make 2 dishes of that for a week is pretty disgusting, that is a lot of fat there to have for dinner ever day.
I dont get why she is so hung up on America, I cant imagine that there is not a selection of cheese out there. I assume New Zealand has farms right?
No. 310120
>>309713We have Housing New Zealand, which provides rental properties where the rent charged is based on your earnings.
Also, if they receive government assistance through Work and Income, they may also be eligible for an accomodation supplement.
Nice and affordable rental properties are hard to come by depending on what area you are looking in, most cheap rentals have been damaged by the big earthquake we had and are still waiting for repairs.
No. 310153
Want to learn how to be goth? Do Not follow this fucked up mentally unstable c
*'s step by step.
https://youtu.be/oFKhH9i-8vw No. 310167
>>310056Her taste buds must be destroyed from all the nasty America food she used to eat
>>310153Couldn't watch that shit beyond 4 minutes, she talks so much nonsense as usual. Does she even mention goth bands? because from all that I managed to watch she's just blabbering on about fashion
No. 310370
>>310153The worst part about this video is her acting like she's some goth pioneer.
>oh I was a goth in THE 70s! we didn't have internet and there were no dark stores at mallsWhat the fuck. It's like every preteen who thinks they're the only ones who have ever dressed in black and had dark thoughts. That was happening well before the 70s…
No. 310587
>>310310She's friends on fb with a couple of my deathrocker friends who are DJs and in bands. But they're "pretty goth boys", so fucking of course she added them.
Wanting to be goth, but not liking/not knowing the music seems like something only high schoolers do. How hasn't she grown out of this phase at 40-something?
No. 310612
>>310456That too, although I also think she dresses mall goth in some desperate attempt to feel and appear younger
>>310587yeah… imagine the outcry if Logan added pretty goth girls!
No. 311505
>>310395cross contamination
Uncooked meats can cause you to get sick.
No. 311514
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No. 311530
>>311514I bet Logan love seeing his wife being a slut and hating all females that do less sexual things than she does.
She is such a fucking hypocrite
No. 311980
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Her latest set of 'photoshoot' crap. Got her saggy ass tittys out again. Imagine if logan posed for provocative photos and had young girls commenting.
No. 311984
>>311980kek. A photo shoot is taking photos of herself in her back yard, at 3 in the morning.
She's so glamorous.
No. 312056
>>311980that's like the dictionary definition of pancake tits right there.
Oh yeah she'd guilt trip Logan into becoming an hero if he tried to do the same thing tbh. Probably. She does like her guilt trips.
>>311981does she really? eugh. Is she just butthurt because she can't have a baby and breastfeed it? I think that's probably what's really going on there.
>>312055GPOY. Raven in a nutshell.
high five No. 312060
>>312056by >>312055 i meant >>312057
>>312059oh gosh yes. she's just an ugly jealous woman with more free time than common sense.
No. 312160
>>312004I think she doesn't bother to edit is because of a combination of laziness and being able to put multiple ads in depending on the length.
She is so hung up on lolcow despite claiming she doesn't care. Crazy bitch is constantly lurking here. With all the horrible things she has said and done to people, especially with how much she loves to torment people and be a psychotic asshole to people she holds grudges against, well… I think her losing her eyesight, being sterile, her tailbone pain and other health problems are divine punishment. She's so horrible it's no wonder bad stuff keeps happening to her.
THIS DUMB BITCH
STILL THINKS JOSH OWNS THIS SITE!? HOLY…
No. 312233
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Spoiler-you might wanna wash yr eyes after.
"i hate girls who constantly show there tits. this is why im against breastfeeding in public"
No. 312240
>>312233Without the tutu you can really see how shapeless and unfortunate she is.
She's got this chunky upper arms/body, with gradually tapered off hips and no ass. And that's with the bad corset on. She'd likely have no shape whatsoever without it. And I can't speculate what's going on with those toenails but jfc I really hope she's just sloppy and paints over her skin and that's not their actual shape…
What a pathetic woman. Posing with her tits out and she's with a guy and a child…
No. 312250
>>312234Yep! You'd think those provocative photos should be for her husbands eyes only? I don't understand how she can take photos like that, plaster them all online, and then turn around and say she hates when other women do it? Worst of all if Logan did the same she'd flip her shit. What a fucking vile hypocrite she is.
>>312242Probably a result of dipping her toes into the swamp, considering she has fucking Shrek feet
No. 312272
>>312250Raven is hypocritical about almost every aspect of her life. It's as though she thinks she's the one exception to every rule or moral code she's created. Talk about narcissism and a lack of normal self-awareness.
Plus, she brags about being an expert manipulator and tricking lolcow in to not posting mean comments on her Facebook page on her birthday… bitch, none of us even know your birthday. We don't care about you like that.
No. 312296
>>312230"i hate girls who constantly show there tits. this is why im against breastfeeding in public"
Breastfeeding mums aren't really showing off their tits tho? They're just feeding their babbys. This is favourable to a babby screaming its stupid little head off because it's hungry tbh.
sage b/c i just don't get antibreastfeeders being all like "OMG THEY SHOVING THEY BOOBS IN EVERYONE'S FACES" when they're not and raven totally is with her awful pancake tits photos that non one asked for
No. 312303
>>312242She has "clubbed" toenails.
That can be caused from a variety of things, from graves syndrome or bronchitis (or any lung issue, which would explain her nasty cough in most of her videos).
I could go on, but those seem most likely.
No. 312382
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No. 312575
>>312528?
I wonder what Hallowe'en is really like in New Zealand. I feel like Raven is mostly bullshitting just because she doesn't go out much.
No. 312583
>>312575Having moved to a country where there is no Halloween, it's not looked down upon or anything, they just don't celebrate it or know anything about it. Over the years it has slowly been trying to come into the culture, like costumes and decorations in stores, but isn't quite catching on. And there are a lot of clubs who hold a Halloween costume dance. And that's about it. But there is a holiday a few weeks after Halloween here where you could say it's sort of Halloween. It has the basics of children going door to door for candy.
You can't expect every nation to celebrate the same holidays or to celebrate the same way. From what I've seen, she just wants to complain about every little thing and compare NZ to the US in every single way (which is what most people would do their first week or so moving to a new place, without doing their research, but she doesn't let it go and is always negative). But what she doesn't understand, the US isn't what it was when she left.
No. 312722
>>312686OMFG
Bitch no one made you do anything.
>snippets of my old videos where i used to be really bitchy>i used to be really bitchy>used tolel
lol bitch no one implied that you hate NZ so much you think the daesh should bomb it ppl just think you whinge a lot about how much NZ isn't like 'murrica.
>no jobyeah well then ppl are mad because yr just leeching off state money whilst not having paid into the system
>i'm meeting more and more nice peopleya well you NEVER talk about them. you just talk about the bad. or about the shit you bought. or about how horrible it is to live where you're at. you NEVER talk about positive stuff. every goddamn video that isn't a "haul" video is you crying about how horrid things are.
just stop. just step away from the computer and i dunno go play with yr monster high dolls or something.
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>>312575RE: the brides group too
oh but remember when you made your wedding page and at the very fucking start of the page you just complained all WOE IS ME about how the brides group hurted your feels?
Pic related. Even on a page that's supposed to have celebrated your special day, you've got to be poor victim instead of remembering the good stuff.
You're just a negative person. Sorry.
p.s. no one wants to watch your entire fucking video because you fucking can't be fucking concise about anything.
No. 312765
>>312686>>312724She can't keep going on like a raging cow and keep lashing out like an abrasive bitch. As it stands she owes society, not the other way around. It's the goal of the welfare queen to manipulate her way as much as possible and make the community around her feel guilty for not being supportive. But instead, she's driving them away. I've never seen someone who depends on welfare act so fucking dumb.
She breaks rules like rehoming an aggressive dog without paying a deposit or even asking her landlords, and then calls it "discrimination" when they put their foot down–retarded enough to not know that would be a STANDARD reaction to ANYBODY and ANYWHERE doing such thing. In my apartment complex, owning an aggressive breed and not paying/telling management could get people EVICTED. t. Murrican
Then there's that bride's page drama which kills me because nobody is OWED wedding favors! She's acting like those other women stole what she was never entitled to in the first place. If she's being honest in that somehow them criticizing her drove away the offerers, then it's more than likely due to the fact that the people who were offering her free shit saw her THREATENING the "jealous" bitches and realized she was crazy.
What has she done to assimilate into New Zealand culture besides bang on about fucking Halloween and abuse their welfare programs? No shit people don't like Americlaps who move to other countries who 1. Don't respect or know anything about the culture. 2. Demand people of that country adopt American culture. 3. Take advantage of their social welfare programs without getting a job or do anything to boost their communities.
No. 312802
>>312765I'm in Aus and people sometimes say they didn't want to do Halloween because it's American. (It's originally Irish and afaik they still celebrate it but whatevs). What they mean is that it's a custom that isn't part of the traditions they grew up with, not that American is bad. We grew up watching TMNT and that's American, and so it means something to ppl.
Anyway, those of us who like Halloween did it anyway and it's becoming more popular. If she stops being hostile and shoving it on to people then with time it might catch on there.
Worse case scenario it doesn't but she can still celebrate. It's not like any of them are young enough to go trick or treating. US expats I know still celebrate thanksgiving even though Aussies don't and they don't seem to mind it being their special tradition.
tldr how to make sure you are miserable and hate everyone by raven sparks, part 293.
No. 312831
>>312575Halloween is pretty shit here.
It's not something largely celebrated and it IS seen as largely an "American" thing, but I would never go as far as saying only "some people" know about it.
Our stores don't seem to stock many Halloween costumes or decorations at all and the ones that do, are really REALLY poor quality.
Trick or treating isn't a big thing, but many places (including my small hick town and the city I work in) have Halloween events usually run by the churches to try and discourage trick or treaters and the general tradition. Pretty much everyone I know goes to Halloween house parties.
Of course Christchurch isn't going to have many bars that have Halloween nights, their nightclub scene died with the earthquakes. There's still a couple of good bars but for an entire city, it's pretty slim picking. Bitch just doesn't have any friends to go out with over the age of 18.
No. 312860
>>312802Yeah Ausfag here, I keep a bag of fun size Cadbury chocolate around at Halloween just in case. We get a couple of kids and families that go around each year in our street, but that's about it. When I was a kid there was newsboradcasts in my city saying to not let kids go out because people poison the lollies and put razor blades in apples. I think the safety aspect of Halloween is what prevents it, not that we 'hate America'.
>>312854Like, isolated for 4 years or something didn't she say? Wtf was that? I don't think people have problem with her because she's American, they have a problem with her because she is an arsehole. I find it hard to believe that Raven would remain locked inside a house just on the say so of another person.the only person who dictates what Raven can do is raven herself.
No. 312887
>>312831Thanks for clearing this up. I searched on google and got a mixed bag of results, but had to rush off to work before I could really absorb anything.
Same with the "Do New Zealanders hate Americans?" question. Got the same mixed bag. Seems like the Americans that made an effort to adapt to living in NZ had a more positive experience. As an American who's lived abroad (in Scotland), I've felt the same, that people like you better in their country if you adapt to their culture and not force them to adapt to yours. Because it's like being a guest in a house, and if you're a shitty houseguest then your mom failed in raising you tbh.
>>312765GPOY all years.
>>312801Wow that happened. Poor Raven. Her husbint was just being honest to people and they threw beer at him. :/ /sarcasm I just can't with this bitch and her "WOE IS ME" attitude. You know that's the sign of a narcissist, is when it's always everyone else's fault even if you were being a shithead in the first place.
>>312860I kept a bag of funsize sweets in my apartment for my second halloween in Scotland (my first I lived in dorms in uni and ofc there were parties for that night), knowing that there were schoolage kids living in the flat below me, so if they did turn out to be trick-or-treaters we'd be prepared for them, but if not, more sweets for us. It's a win/win situation like that.
In the US my neighborhood has gotten a bit more dangerous over the past few years, so we've gotten less kids, and I hope the ones we did get kept safe out there, but I've never thought "oh i bought this huge bag of sweets and now no one's taken it how terrible that is". like, you've still got a bag of sweets, you can either enjoy it yourself or share it with friends (had Raven got friends tho?) so idg what the big deal is. And if it's SO MUCH MONEY to buy a huge bag of sweets, and you've observed that trick-or-treat isn't a huge deal in your area, and you're always complaining about money and asking for handouts and shit anyway, then just don't buy the huge bag of sweets, shut your porch light off, and enjoy a quiet night in with scary movies. nbd. problem is Raven can't make a positive situation out of anything. Logan could be promoted to CEO tomorrow and they could move to a McMansion and she could make a ton of friends and she'd still find shit to gripe about. That's just how she is.
>>312869It's another narcissist/abuser thing. "LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO" etc.
No. 313246
>>312887>Do NZ hate Amreicans?People don't outright hate Americans down this way. We just hate arseholes and drama llamas. Raven blames it on being American so it shifts the blame on everyone else.
>Still got a bag of sweetsDefinitely a win/win! What made me laugh the most about Raven bleating on about the Halloween gummis is that those she had are from the cheap arsed crap store. Here in Aus it's called the Reject Shop and it's full of cheap parallel imports and low quality products. A bag of about 20 gummis is about $2. The decorations she was complaining about probably come from the same place.
No. 313437
>>312887>"Do New Zealanders hate Americans?"Yeah, nah. In fact, I swear the closest we get to hating any country is Australia and even then, it's more playful than anything else.
As
>>313246 said, we hate assholes and drama llamas. While we are pretty easy going over here, we don't seem to accommodate to those sorts and if you're going to come here and act like a shit, we aren't going to bend over backwards, suck ya toes and wrap you in cotton wool to make you feel more "at home".
No. 313470
>>313456Well said.
Is she seriously complaining about pizza??
PIZZA?? Holy fuck doesn't she ever got bored of moaning about every single little thing?
"This isn't the norm to a normal American pizza" THAT'S A GOOD THING YOU DUMB BITCH. America isn't exactly known for its healthy food and slim population now is it? She'd be right back at her old weight if not even bigger if NZ had the same food
No. 313472
>>313456Isn't she on food assistance to boot? And complaining about shitty chain pizza?
Also I don't know why she considers Domino's high class, but when I double checked how much it would be for a carryout regular large pizza with pepperoni at the Domino's here it came to $14 incl. tax. And she's bitching over paying $15 for stuffed crust and extra topping? She got a deal by Domino's standards.
Not that she should be eating greaseball pizza anyway, what with her bariatric surgery. If she's this bored she needs a j-o-b.
No. 313479
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Looking at the comments I found this. She moved to a new country and refused to eat anything from there. What a fucking cunt. No wonder why people hate her so much for being American. She's so disrespectful.
No. 313516
>>313456NEWSFLASH: PIZZA IS DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT PLACES. Even in different cities in the US you get different pizza. Why should another goddamn country have the same pizza as yr used to in whatever backwoods part of america you're from?
Also domino's sucks everywhere.
And how is she eating all this crap after having weightloss surgery (that the government paid for lol)?
>>313474To be fair, would you really want her as a co-worker?
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I'll just leave this here
No. 314199
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No. 314232
>>314199why????
Is she trying to literally go back to Gothic times?
No. 314268
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>>314199She doesn't do nudity…
No. 314336
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>>314199I always admired you raven for how modestly you dress
No. 314337
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You're not like those skinny sluts who dress like tramps
You're above that. A glorious mature goth queen. Which is why you have no nudes right?
No. 314340
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I like how she doesn't have a job or kids, doesn't even have a slightly gainful hobby like knitting or painting so she has all the time in the world
And yet she lives in a pigsty
Doesn't she and her husband get depressed from living in (mostly her) filth? It's psychological pollution.
No. 314506
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So I was drunk last night and sent this to Raven. She blocked me and then I friended Dorian to spite her.
No. 314629
>>314509A normal person: I don't like sex scenes in non pornographic movies
Raven: I HATE SLUTS
No. 314879
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Unfortunately she's safe
No. 315001
>>314891This thread is "ammo" regardless of what we say.
She's a butt hurt piece of garbage.
No. 315018
>>314914wuuuuuuut?
I mean, I believe you, but sauce pls?
>>315001true dat.
No. 315248
>>315246Holy fuck that's horrible.
I never got her hostility to Emily. Anyone would think Emily had an affair with Raven's husband and not the other way around.
No. 315308
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PANCAKE TITS
No. 315310
>>315308"For one- I don't post "half naked photos" of myself. I'm more clothed than most women out there and I fucking HATE when people try to say that!!!!"
"I'm anti-nudity!"
"I need to… … sometimes just want to feel pretty or sexy, doesn't mean I need to see some naked whore… … I don't need to have it shoved in my fucking face…"
"I'm not gonna dress like a little slut like everyone else does!"
"I hate girls who constantly show there tits."
surejan.
No. 315312
>>315308*Pancake tit.
One is up there and doing just fine and the other has completely given up on life and descended to rock bottom.
No. 315319
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>>314466Kaka became a (shoddy) fellow farmer basically
No. 315322
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>>314506>more clothed than most women out thereGurl….
No. 315323
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>>314914Agreed. That's why I feel absolutely 0 pity for this flabby cunt. She's an absolute useless mess. If she was nice noooone would care, but she's a horrorshow of narcissism, histrionics and mean spirited comments.
No. 315325
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>>315312Emo tit
I'd get depressed too if my owner lived in a sty like this
No. 315333
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>>315332But anon, she's not like those slutty bimbos, her bikini is BLACK
No. 315435
>>315391I AGREE.
What she doesn't realize that she is the one that continues to shame people for doing what they will with their body, we give her shit because of the garbage she says and how she's a giant hypocrite.
No. 315707
>>315548She's Jabba the Slutt! Only dumber.
>>315688But boob tape probably costs so much money! She needs more American snacks and shitty pizza and cheap shitty clothes off of dresslily and Monster High dolls! Priorities, man!
No. 315788
>>315713Surprisingly, Christchurch fared a lot better than Kaikoura and Wellington.
>>315246Which Emily is this? Jade's partner? (Vague memory but I think I recall either one of them being on her friends list but when I last looked, me and Raven didn't have any mutual friends anymore.
No. 315834
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>>315605She had wls? Then strap in for more top keks because people with poor eating habits tend to gain it all back.
No. 315853
>>315843Not only that, but she keeps eating shit food. If she's not getting fast food of some sort she's making disgusting lasagna posted here
>>309721, which she will eat all by herself.
No. 315860
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>>315843The band will loosen up and her tiny stomach will stretch if she keeps her bad habits. Not to mention a lot of unrepentant fatties with gastric bands and bypasses still figure out ways to get their grease/sugar/salt fix while keeping the volume low. I.e lots of sugary fatty milkshakes, liquid chocolate, mayo and all manner of spreads, paste etc.
Wls is pointless and dangerous if you don't exercise well and regularly+change your eating habits
I'm guessing our queen of the night exercises once a month.
No. 316004
>>315996So in short
- She insists she's not bossy but asked Logan to tell people she isn't
- Her relationship with Logan is more like mother & son than husband &wife
- To her, "home" (America) is all about the food
- She found it offensive that Logan didn't like any of her nasty American food "i didn't want to hear him shit talking my home" yet she is CONSTANTLY whining about how shit everything in NZ is
- She talks shit about how Logan always drops faggot and gay as insults but she always does the same
- She just openly admitted to looking at an underage, 15 year old Logan and finding him hot
- "You can't go through life being offended by every little thing" yet she makes video after video responding to any comment that even slightly annoys her. and even said at the beginning of this clusterfuck of a video that being called bossy offends her pmsl
No. 316008
>>316004Thank you for the concise recap. I made it 1.5 minutes into the video before I could stand it no longer.
No wonder Logan has the personality of a doorknob; he's been subjected to her psychobabble so long he probably barely hears her anymore. He's just permanently zoned out.
No. 316145
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Yes, for "comparison". If you really want a comparison of your weight loss, you'd do it like a normal person instead of being half naked and in provocative poses. This is no different than what you call out girls being "sluts" for not matter how much you want to say it's for weight loss. You know it's bullshit as does everyone else.
No. 316146
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"I hate nudity! Girls who show off their tits and bodies are sluts! It's nasty! I'm SUCH a prude!"
No. 316201
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>>316146This looks like a bad Roadhog genderbend…
No. 316296
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More Raven hypocrisy.
No. 316321
>>316305I was more talking about how her gut extends past her hips and ass on all sides.
I agree that floppy tits are normal and natural-looking, not that they're something to be showing off proudly lol.
I more meant that her fat is making her look like a different species. Like a hog in a dress, specifically.
No. 316341
>>316210In the birthday vid where they go out to dinner with Logan's family there is his mum, her girlfriend and her ex husband (whom I got the impression may not be his dad). So maybe living with Raven is normal and stable compared to home and that's why nothing bothers him.
>>316273Yeah, she did a video tour of the house where she showed each room. There was a bedroom set up for her, one for Logan and one for Dorian.
>>315996Ugh this annoys me so much:
>stop being offended by the Hitler pic> I don't think it looks like a Hitler pic even though Logan says it is>he was young and stupid and you should stop being so offended> ps you guys offend me all the time and you should stop it No. 316586
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Pure raven kween
No. 316590
>>316586what I think is some kind of black netting under her dress looks like overgrown pubic hair, and what's sexy about a teddy bear? wait she does like little boys doesn't she…
>>316588yea i was thinking the same thing, stretching makes anyone look slimmer. it's honestly quite hard to tell the difference between her before and after pictures anyway
No. 316804
she's flaunting the fact her cat is pregnant "we've been trying to get her pregnant for ages",and says she only wants to keep 2 kittens. so is she just going to toss the rest out onto the street? typical raven, bored of her adult cat and now wants kittens instead
>>316638what fan page is this?
No. 316809
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>>316638She should put some nuttella on her pancakes for her distinguished fans
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That back fat photoshop fail though
No. 316823
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>>316638The post where she talks about her pancake tits.
No. 316824
>>316816Probably both. Either way this is gross. The last thing that filthhouse needs is kittens, and the last thing kittens need is to live there.
>>316815So against nudity, y'all!
>>316809"I swear I'm not like those other sluts!"
No. 316962
>>316812What is it with poor people having animals?
Ever notice they always have 2+ cats, dogs, and other assorted mammals and birds they can't realistically care for by themselves without being on the dole?
No. 317118
>>316815She shooped his arm bigger
Lol
No. 317121
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She shoops her husbando on the regular actually
No. 317140
>>317107I just feel bad for animals living in her kind of environment in general. I notice the difference between lazy pigs in the poor and upper middle class is that at least richer people can hire the help to clean for them if they won't.
From the looks of it, she keeps her place like a hoarder-tier level pigsty
>>315325. Those kittens will probably suffer all kinds of respiratory problems and be sick often. She'll blame them but won't blame the fact that there's allergens and a buildup of cat hair and dust and debris from her lack of cleanliness.
>>317121He looks like an ugly girl.
No. 317509
https://youtu.be/zHrLOoccAwIIn short
Raven has stopped going to the gym because she's on her period
Goes to her ex husbands(Ryan) gym "Canterbury Sports Performance Center"
He's the strongest person in new Zealand
scoffRaven gushes over Ryan and his guns
Complains about putting on weight rather than dropping it although she's only doing lifting.
No. 317687
>>317585ugh I hate the baby talk. I know some people talk to their pets like that but it's just annoying coming from a 40 yr old woman with a whiny voice. also notice the way she told dorian to put
her cat down, and she wonders why people think she's bossy
No. 318218
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just what every cat needs when its about to give birth. doesn't it look comfy? jeeeez raven
No. 318226
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Back to bitching about how "expensive" everything is by putting up a pic of Lucky Charms and Cinnamon Toast Crunch, yet the other stuff around it is all fairly priced. Of course imported shit is expensive but you know what? You don't have to buy it! But considering you're an ignorant cunt who wouldn't even try the food from where you moved to for years, go ahead. Eat all the American imported food you want. Surgery won't stop you from blowing back up to a whale. And bills and shit is called life. Like does she think she can live off $500 a month in America for 3 people?
No. 318239
>>318226PSA: Cat food is not $120 a bag.
Also, there's no way sucking her ex husband's dick and making Logan work full time could pay for all of this AND all her pop vinyls, she must still be on the dole.
No. 318275
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That teenage body he had is going away…
No. 318277
>>318226Damn bitch, do some couponing or get a job. Does NZ not have generic brands or something?
>$200 for cellphones>$100 for phone and internetIf you have cellphones, why do you need another phone bill to begin with?
>$120 a bag for cat foodYour cats don't need gourmet food, get them the damn cheap stuff.
No. 318280
>>318226I duno, that rent seems pretty average to me for an entire goddamn house (I'm from Chicago tho, where rent is high anyway, so my view of this is skewed). Car and insurance seem pretty standard by American standards too, esp. if your credit isn't fantastic ($40 a week in debt repayment yo!) and, if NZ insurers have the same policy of having younger/less experienced drivers pay more, 1 (maybe 2 if Dorian drives) of the drivers is under 25. Insurance also tends to be a lot less expensive if you just pay for 6 months at a time too, but I don't know if that's an option over there. Phone/internet seems pretty similar to American too, and power if your stoves, boiler, and heating also run off electric. Raven needs to, like, get a job or something I duno. Because it's always the fancy imported food she wants, and the monster high dolls, and lead filled makeup from drugstore websites. Like. She's spent too much on frivolous shit and also chooses not to work, so she's in no place to complain about how "expensive" things are.
No. 318282
>>318277phone companies bundle that shit so you think you're getting a better deal if you buy both at the same time, even if you don't need a landline anymore, but usually those introductory rates go away after a few months or a year and you're paying full for everything.
>>318275it's a dadbod, but that's not the worst thing in the world. or wouldn't be if raven wasn't a paedo anyway.
GOSH look at all those toys and other shit tho… complaining about money but being able to afford toys. wtf.
No. 318300
i think she's just been spoiled her whole life, always had everything paid for her (especially now by her ex husband, very weird…) so she doesn't understand how to manage money and bills. unbelievable that someone who complains so much about how expensive everything is continues to buy dolls and useless shit. if you're at a good place financially then buy whatever tf you want, but if she's poor like she keeps claiming to be then she should be only buying the essentials.
>>318288because he was young and impressionable. he just wanted an easy fuck. i think she roped him into marriage as a way to get other girls (sorry that should be sluts according to raven) away from him. poor guy. she actually said in a video recently that she thought he was hot when she saw pictures of him at 15 years old….. yuck
No. 318472
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>>318302If she's going to not have a job the least she could do is cook and clean. She has all the time in the world, how is she not using that to better herself and keep her house pristine?
I feel kinda bad for her, she must have really low self esteem if she doesn't think she's worthy or capable of doing something productive
No. 318474
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>>318288He seems like a cool guy, roped into this when he was young and immature.
Now he is stuck with a crazy aging mallgoth, no chance of having kids. What a waste, hope he sees the light soon.
No. 318492
>>318302>she's sitting at home doing fuck all but cleaninglel she's not even doing that though? literally just facebook/youtube/buying shit online all day.
>>318474fucking hell CLEAN YOUR HOUSE BEFORE YOU TAKE SELFIES FFS
No. 318584
>>318472Feel bad for her? she takes borderline pornographic pictures for strangers to see because she has no respect for her husband.
she has no excuse to not clean now, we've seen her lift weights so her tailbone soreness and "back issues" can't be that bad
No. 318585
>>318579Ever heard Heston Blumenthal go on about 'umami'? He is talking about MSG, only he probably derives his from mushrooms and tomatoes. You can buy it as Ajinomoto Seasoning. It's really only harmful if you use it by the handful.
Sage for OT
No. 318602
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any one know what happened? maybe logan finally saw sense and walked out
No. 318612
>>318568For being a cow who sits on a computer all day you'd think she would bother to learn how to cook something decent and worthy of a picture instead of that oily vomit.
She could've made something like a frittata, and she can't say a tomato and a bag of frozen spinach and cheap cheese is so much more costly than her buying Halloween candy…
No. 318614
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Sorry, I usually only lurk, but i got a couple screenshots last night
No. 318653
>>318614Honestly though if he told her he doesn't watch porn and went and lI'd about it, it does make him the liar. Sure Raven is a camwhore but she's upfront to him about it and doesn't hide the fact that she's a skank.
If a guy is watching porn behind his gf's back, it's an issue and it's on him.
No. 318663
>>318655Because it's not something mature adults with healthy sexual relationships do. Lying about watching porn and then doing it when Raven is literally home all the time is scum behavior. I'm sure he wouldn't be so keen to enjoy of Raven was engaging with big black cock dudes online. Yeah it's not cheating but it's highlighting a major dysfunction in their relationship. And he can't even use her being too ambitious (lol) and never being at home as an excuse.
And if it's for any other bullshit reason then obviously she doesn't satisfy his sexual needs and he should peace out.
No. 318743
>>318680I didn't men to imply that youth is an excuse for bad behavior or lying. My point was that very few teenagers truly know themselves or what they will want long term in a relationship (or life.) Raven, as a late-30's grown ass woman, should have known this and not be surprised when her child bride starts developing into a different person. It's not cool he lied, but maybe he really didn't like porn when he was 16 or 18 years old. Maybe he developed a taste for it, and just didn't know how to tell her. In a healthy relationship you should be able to talk to your partner about these things, but we all know damn well their relationship is not healthy. The poor kid was probably terrified to tell Raven about the porn; she doesn't seem the understanding sort.
Again, not saying it's OK that he lied, just saying she shouldn't be surprised.
No. 318780
>>318614Lol just when I thought she couldn't get more stupid, she proves herself to be falsely sex positive.
Poor dude can't even have a fap in peace. Hope he bails while he can.
No. 318856
>>318655It's usually because of the insecurity they feel themselves of knowing their partner finds other women attractive besides just them. Which is why he felt he had to lie to her, call other women sluts and generally pretend that she's the only person in the world to get his dick hard.
It's okay to be against porn for sociological and political reasons, but when you're simply against it because it makes you uncomfortable/gives you low self-esteem/insecurity issues… then avoid it if you can, but you can't project personal issues for not liking it onto someone else who may actually have a different opinion of it to you.
She's basically projecting her insecurities onto him, she HATES all other women, probably this even extends to her own female friends and she only tolerates them if they complement or support her in any way… she's very likely the type of woman who says shit like "I'm not like the other girls" or "I only hang out with guys".
She's a very sexist woman, both to women and to men.
No. 318859
>>318856Samefag here.
I just wanted to ask if anyone knows the situation with their sex life? I feel I've read somewhere in the thread before that she complained they were sleeping in separate rooms and barely interacting with each other?
If that's the case, then they both need to go to counselling as the marriage is no longer working… I'm not going to throw out claims that he may be a porn-addict just yet, because if he genuinely really has barely any time to have to himself, it may be because of that and only really has the time to find quick relief, like a cup of "cocoa" before bedtime if you know how I mean.
If he's using porn as a replacement to having sex with her though, he may need to get that checked out as it may be an addiction - or… he just simply isn't interested in her anymore and is staying simply because of the hassle a divorce would be to them both financially and emotionally.
Either way, marriage counselling should be a priority for them right now so they can get down to the root of the problem.
No. 318867
>>318865If he goes to his GP, depending on the severity of his snoring - it can be helped.
>>318866Yeah, that's why I'm not accusing him of anything; if she's isolating him just because of the snoring though, what else is he supposed to do on in a room on his own when he's horny?
But to be honest, I'm agreeing with you because I wouldn't want to disturb the sleeping whale to fuck it either.
At any time of the day for that matter.
No. 318906
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He never looks even the slightest bit happy. no wonder he was whacking off to porn
No. 318910
>>318906that video (her latest one talking about her facebk status) came off as really creepy, like she was shaming him. he looks miserable in every photo and video of them together,i bet he's disappointed she didn't break up with him. and lol @the matching hair.
but on a more serious note, whilst he's in the wrong for lying, it was an accident waiting to happen because of the way she treats him. It's pretty damn funny tho that a woman who posts near nude photos for men to jerk off to has such a problem with her husband looking at other women in pornos. lead by example raven.
No. 318912
>>318911idk, maybe his mopey face is just his attempt at looking down, emo, sad, anguished, etc.
he doesn't really need to try too hard to pull that look off though… lol
No. 318955
>>318923Because Raven can do whatever she wants, she acts like she's above everyone.
A clear sign of zero self worth and massive insecurities, it's hard to feel bad for people like that because they're usually fucking horrid human beings.
He's not even allowed to have female friends, that's fucked up. Of course he's looking at porn, he can do it in secret (could rather) and look at other people (lots of people do).
No. 319028
>>318859Tons of marriages have partners sleeping in separate rooms. It's not indicative of a problem unless there is an actual problem. Some people just like having their own bed, don't want to hear their partner snore, or like to fall asleep with background noise like the TV while the other one doesn't.
Reason why it's suspect with these two is because Raven is domineering and her man is lying about watching porn to her face.
No. 319308
>>319300Textbook Raven. She will never - EVER - admit (or even see) the flaws in herself, because she always has an excuse to negate them. Meanwhile she lives only for herself, ruining her son and her husband's life to keep them in service to her. She's incapable of loving anyone else, she just sees Logan as a trophy and therefore must keep him by her side, even if it means stifling the poor kid. And Dorian, well he needs to be a grateful slave because she dragged him around on all her adventures.
She is the worst kind of toxic and she makes Margaret Palermo look like Mother Teresa.
No. 319315
>>319300>I don't hate other women anymore!>It's just that they wear a lot less than me and I'm still gonna lord that over them!way to contradict yrself in the same video, raven.
wow.
No. 319320
>>319318Dorian shouldn't have apologized. I can understand saying things out of anger and not truly meaning them, however you are still responsible for your actions and they effect others.
She's the mother, Dorian wouldn't exist without her and for her to say something like that is disgusting.
I can imagine living with her is like walking on eggshells, and they have all been trained to agree with her.
She's raised him to rely on her and because she has no skills other than making videos (use that term lightly) he has developed into a apathetic sack of human.
No. 319385
>>319350Because if she moved back to America, she'd have to like get a job and stuff. And that's too much work for poor pwincess raven.
America's welfare system isn't that generous, especially since her kid is a grown adult, and she can cry disability from her tailbone hurting to not work, but it's hard to get disability here too, and she's healthy enough that she can go out and lift weights tbh.
But in NZ she gets her childbride's money (when he works lol), she gets government assistance, and she gets money for whoring herself out to her ex, so it makes more sense to stay there even if she hates it so much.
No. 319430
>>318579pop into a local asian market. They usually have a 100g or 200g bag of the stuff. My housemate would buy it to add to his meals to bring out the flavour.
>>318849>Logan is like an sad, abused dog getting shamed with one of those "I ate my own poop" signsKek. He seriously looks so rough tho. I guess that's what being in a loveless marriage does to you. Ages ya horribly.
>>318859Raven said it was because of his snoring and him working like 5am to 6pm a day and her sleeping patterns were fucked. she said that he tossed and turned and shes a light sleeper so they just sleep/slept in different rooms
No. 319498
>>319428The Raven Logic astounds me also. She says she hated the stripper and whore jobs, was shy and nervous and really terrible at it. Why would she even work those types of jobs knowing that she was complete shit and didn't want to do it anyway? Obviously she couldn't get any other work.
This shows the Raven work ethic: I need money so I am going to turn up and do the complete minimum required so I can get paid for doing sweet fuck all.
No. 319729
>>319726Summary:
Sooooooo this vain bitch spent over 8 minutes talking about her looks.
Also she bought a tv, even though she's so broke and everything is so expensive in NZ that she has to whinge about it constantly.
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no money for food, rent, bills ect but money for more shitty mermaid blankets
No. 319781
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Anyone else feel sorry for the pregnant cat?
I have never seen anyone act like this about an animals pregnancy (except a breeder obviously.)
I feel like she is going to "help" too much and probably complicate the process. I hope she leaves the damn thing alone and let the animal have its litter.
Sage for nit picking.
No. 319989
https://youtu.be/_IuaJWXVCAYBack to bashing women, that's so Raven.
She sounds pissed when Logan said one of his favorite characters is a woman
No. 320017
>>319989I used to be that way, I'd refuse to watch certain movies or shows because I was so insecure.
It's a really miserable and isolating way to be. Being like that really put a strain on my relationships and made me feel awful.
(sorry blog post)
Raven you can accept your body and be proud of yourself without bringing other people down.
We wouldn't give you so much shit if you weren't such a hypocrite, you don't have to be so damn hateful.
No. 320134
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>>314199You guys have it all wrong, raven is a never nude
Also I think that kiwifarm user Midna Alexis who showed up here is Raven or one of her pals. No. 320168
>>320142They showed up after Raven posted her "RIP terryberry fuck the farms" video where she also was going on about how "she could make an account shit talking herself and no one would know, cuz she is l33t hax0r"
Tripfag midna Alexis shows up (with their email) you search the email to find a kiwifarms user with the same name who (last I checked) only posted in the Raven thread with her latest upload and the occasional snarky comment.
I reckon she had made her kiwifarms account before posting here she obviously had no idea how this site works and thought she could make an account and used her new internet handle and email to "sign up and post"
This is probably me being crazy and over-analyzing though
No. 320327
>>319989Oh man why do I have this strong feeling that Logan watches Game Of Thrones in secret solely for the nudity. Got caught watching porn? Switch to a wholesome tv show!
As someone who doesn't watch Doctor Who, she makes it seem like all the women in the show are stupid af and running around trying to screw everyone. But this is Raven logic. Every woman who isn't her is a stupid slut whore cunt.
And yet ANOTHER "birthday" present. You can go buy shit without claiming it's a gift but don't be all "we're so poor, we can't eat or pay bills" and whine about how expensive everything is. Don't constantly buy shit or try to justify it by claiming it's a gift, like how hard is it to just not buy something and save money for other things like the eye surgery you need oh so badly or a trip to the US to see your dying mother? Oh that's right, buying 500 mermaid blankets and plastic spoopy dolls are more important!
No. 320347
>>320327I've got a feeling he's not even allowed to watch GoT. Raven hates TV shows that have nudity in them. They're probably banned from the house and he has to watch it in secret if at all.
>>320134Raven's got pals besides her ex husband?
No. 320398
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>>320347That's why I said in secret~
And look who is now complaining about being broke and not able to afford bills and shit! And you would have had "Christmas" with gifts, cause you can't be happy with just spending time with your family, if you wouldn't have forced Logan to give you early presents.
No. 320402
>>320398there wouldn't be a problem if she just fkin put money aside and saved it instead of blowing it on stupid useless shit to further clutter their house with
>>320400money from whoring herself out to her ex husband most likely
No. 320413
>>320400Precisely. Sod all.
If things are that shit, she shouldn't be pissing money up the wall on things like TVs, mermaid blankets, contact lenses, dolls.
No. 320489
>>319989She's so fucking insecure it
hurts. There she goes, degrading every single female character and even saying "A female doctor would be horrible." Raven needs mental help. It's not healthy to hate other women this much and get irrationally angry over your husband liking a fictional chick on the TV screen. Women in healthy relationships with their significant others generally don't give a shit because they don't have anything to worry about.
No. 320534
>>320400lel.
>>320398Who does she have to even christmas shop for besides Logan and Dorian? Oh wait it's not about the things she wants to get for others, it's what her husband can get for her. Ugh. Because the "late birthday present" dress and the creepy doll she just bought and all those mermaid blankets aren't enough. What a greedy bitch.
No. 320925
>>320870What's with cows pretending to commit suicide or pretending to be suicidal. Raven, onion, Margo…
I get that they want the attention or to make "bullies" feel bad. But it's so fucking stupid and makes you look fucking insane.
No. 320938
>>320925In Raven's case at least, I'd argue it's because she can't handle not being the center of attention. Suicide gets a lot of attention and if she blames it on bullying, she can milk it amongst friends and family who actually believe her. She can feed off of their mourning. The advantage to faking a suicide instead of actually doing it is that she can lie low and see all of the positive things that people say about her, whereas an actual attempt would either have her hospitalized (if it failed) or not alive to bask in the attention (if she succeeded). Faking it means she gets all of the benefits on her terms, and with careful twisting of how it's presented (use of the term "gone" instead of dead by Dorian, etc), she can redirect blame of the backlash on people making assumptions that she's dead… even if she was the one that encouraged it to begin with.
In other words, she is the perfect storm of NPD+BPD clusterfuck and that kind of shit can really wreck people's emotional well-being, and she won't give a damn because it's all about her-her-her.
No. 321100
>>320870i love this video, if you ever need a crash course of her shit she has put it out there.
If she really has changed, she should thank us for showing her how bad she is. But it sounds like she just bites her tongue a bit more than she used to. She has the same opinions, she still has the slut hate mentality, and she has no real self awareness.
Raven, you can't say you have changed without acknowledging how shitty you are. It starts by apologizing, not deflecting your issues into other people.
No. 321101
>>321072She wouldn't even be allowed a license if she was legally blind.
http://nzta.govt.nz/resources/medical-aspects/6.htmlIn New Zealand, being legally blind means she can't see clearly beyond 6 meters (20 feet in the US) and/or has a field of vision less than 20 degrees in diameter. In order to legally drive in New Zealand, she would need to be able to see at least as far as 9 or 12 meters (depending on class) /and/ have a field of vision at least 140 degrees in diameter. If she fell under either definition of blindness, she would not be allowed to operate a vehicle of any class.
PS: Raven, the term you're looking for is "transition lenses". Or you could just get clip-on sunglasses. But that'd require effort and doing something other than trolling stores that "remind you of home" (seriously?) or recording hour-long videos about lolcow and Kiwifarms.
No. 321104
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>>321090Pic related. Yeah, she's totally changed guys. Completely new person. She's so nice now and above all of the drama.
No. 321123
>>321072Because she's not actually and it's just malingering like her "bad tailbone" that prevents her from working but allows her to lift weights.
Well spotted, anon. I was wondering about that too.
No. 321258
Sluts. Sluts everywhere.
https://www.facebook.com/Official.Logan.Sparks/videos/1142261775792490/It's just Raven and her emotionally stunted husband forever. <3
Notice the empty 2L milk bottle in the background. Raven must spend all day drinking HORRIBLE, EXPENSIVE, NEW ZEALAND MILK! Which she has to drive like an asian to get from the supermarket. Life is so hard for her guys. :(
No. 321261
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>>321258Ah Logan – ever Raven's obedient little lap dog. She's sucking the life force out of him and he is just looking worse and worse. Pretty soon this is what he will look like…
No. 321284
>>321258Mumble mumble, whores, mumble, sluts.
30 second video.
You tell them Logan.
No. 321290
>>321273Honestly, his disposition makes me wonder if he's reading from a script for these things. In many of his videos, it doesn't sound like he's speaking naturally, it sounds forced and very stilted. Whereas in the driving video, you get a sense of his actual personality since there is nothing for him to read the script from. Raven has also read from scripts before in her hour-long bullying video, so it's not impossible.
Besides, in that video you can see his eyes moving back and forth. That's suggestive of script/screen reading.
No. 321456
>>321258Accent cute af.
His header is creepy as fuck but lets be real Raven probably made him put that up, or she still just controls his account.
No. 321472
>>321342haven't they both taken each others surnames? "marshall-sparks"
>>321456oh she definitely controls his account. the only stuff "he" has posted has been retarded images of "how much he loves his wife" and you'll also notice the only females who leave comments are older women, perhaps family?
No. 321526
>>321498People keep telling her that and she responded back saying she's birthed and raised many cats and was even in vet school and she has a close relationship with her cat and people need to stop telling her shit cause she knows what she's doing.
>>321521She's said keeping 3 and giving/selling the others.
No. 321552
I can guarantee you that she does not do her research when it comes to pets. The way she treats her cats shows this.
>>321528Yes, yes she did. That's what tells me she's lying about knowing what she's doing, or about doing her research. If she had done her research, she would know that cats hate big changes, filthy environments, and moving. The cats peeing and shitting all over the place is probably either due to an unstable environment with the humans (such as constant or explosive fights, they hate loud noises), their litter box not being clean (which she probably puts off for ages like the damn dishes all over the place), a medical condition (in which case, they need to see the vet) or other stressful life events. When they are acting out like this, it's their only way to communicate that they are upset about something. Cats have specific body language to communicate with other critters and it's not one that humans are naturally in-tune to, since it varies so wildly from our own. Research is crucial to giving them a healthy and stable home.
If she had done her research, she would know that /rehoming them when they're stressed about something is a terrible move/. Cats hate moving. They hate dealing with new humans. They get plopped into a completely different environment with completely different people, and can develop relocation depression because of it if it's not handled right. All it does is stress them out further instead of actually finding and fixing the problem. Rehoming them would actually contribute to the problem behavior, not fix it. All it does is drop it onto someone else's head and make it even harder for them to deal with later. For the sake of those cats, I hope they were rehomed to someone who actually gives a damn because she should not be treating them that way.
Some sources:
http://cats.about.com/cs/healthissues/a/stress.htmhttp://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/make-moving-less-stressful-for-your-cathttp://www.mymovingreviews.com/move/how-moving-affects-catshttp://www.animalplanet.com/pets/how-to-stop-your-cat-from-peeing-in-the-house/ No. 321568
>>321559No. It's not just you.
Raven states in her first labor video that Marmalade hates being recorded. 4:19 she talks about how when she first got Marmalade, she was constantly taking pictures and the cat hated it. Yet here she is, recording every fucking second of the cat's pre-labor, nesting, grooming, actual giving birth, and nursing afterwards. It's beyond creepy. Rule number 1 when dealing with cats: if they hate something, /don't do it/, especially during situations where they can't get away. Seriously, it's a huge contributing factor to behavior problems down the road.
I'm glad that several of the kittens are going to be given away, hopefully to loving and clean homes that will actually treat them well instead of recording them constantly. But I'm worried about the kittens that will remain with her.