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No. 1164432

Cryaotic is a YouTuber and former Twitch streamer who outed himself as a pedophile and groomer on a video posted in June. Following the video, several victims came out with other allegations.
Last thread: >>>/snow/997235

Current events: After a victim (Susie) was found to be false and Auri stepped off from Twitter and deleted her Discord server, anons have been discussing their doubts about Auri.

Before this all went public:
Jund leaves the LNC stream early one night after Cry flips out on him for not enjoying a SJW furry visual novel.
Cry goes manic on a privated stream

June 17th
TiaBeanie (Previously went by the name Sakunora in the Cryaotic tumblr fandom) posts on Twitter about her experiences with a "Content Creator". Very quickly the content creator is revealed to be Cry himself.

June 20th
Cryoatic admits to cheating on Cheyenne with someone underage. Could either be Ocean or Beanie. Based on knowledge shared in past threads, it's more likely to be Ocean.
Realizes soon after, he fucked up. Posts a statement on Twitter saying he made it in a manic state, and regrets it. Asks everyone to give him a few days.

Cheyenne revels about him admitting it on Twitter. Accuses the LNC boys of knowing he cheated on her with a minor. https://archive.vn/NAPjU

Ocean returns: https://archive.vn/gQRTx

June 21st
Angel posts on Twitter that she has cut ties with Cry.

Jund streams the next day to try and unwind, people ask questions about what is going on.
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/657704387
Transcript: http://archive.md/oRZfF
Important bits:
-Scott knew he had sexual texts with a 16 year old years ago, he confronted Cry about it saying it was creepy and Cry lied to him and told him he stopped.
-Ziegs said in chat none of them knew it continued to happen and thought it was a one off occurrence.
-Scott says Cry has been acting very weird the past few weeks, might be because of new medication he is on or something.
-Scott says Cry did not tell any of them about the video and they all got blind sided by the upload like everyone else.
-Scott knew Cry had got Red to cheat on Russ, but he had let Russ make the decision to stay or not because he felt it wasn't his place.
-Scott says they (The LNC) have removed cry from LNC. He mentions they will probably start a new show without Cry, but they need to work stuff out.

Shortly after Scott starts streaming, Cry posts this statement on Twitter. He has since been in hiding.

Cheyenne continues to attack the LNC, saying they KNEW that Cheyenne was underaged despite her telling them for years that the relationship was legal.
Posts a screenshot of Cry telling her he loved her when she was only 16.
With context: Cheyenne lied to the LNC, the community, and likely to Cry about her age for years.

Zieg’s makes a Twitter thread saying she & the crew were aware of creepy messages, but they thought it had stopped after that one occurrence.

June 22nd
Lolcow anon Auri creates a Twitter thread and posts her story & proof.
Too many links to post, her Twitter is still up and also archived here: >>>/snow/991718

Cheyenne and Coyote go into a huge Twitter fight after Coyote unprivates the "In the Room" video.
Cheyenne bullied Coyote into reprivating the video based on it “making her want to kill herself”. Too long to archive all so here is the part in the thread with screencaps:
The BIGGEST milk out of this Twitter fight:
Coyote reveals that she knew Ocean was underaged.
Coyote also reveals that Cheyenne was blackmailing Cry with this information to stay on the stream and get more money.
Shortly after Coyote deleted fucking everything and leaves Twitter.

Snake does his stream to address things from his side.
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/658634134
Transcript: http://archive.md/ULhJb
Important bits:
-Snake knew Cry cheated on Cheyenne, and who it was with because that person was not allowed to return. He did not know details (like age) about said person.
-Snake had read the lolcow threads about Cheyenne and Sage before, but did not read the whole thing and only saw people dogpiling Chey & Sage.
-”I‌ ‌don’t‌ ‌know‌ ‌how‌ ‌explicit‌ ‌I‌ ‌want‌ ‌to‌ ‌be‌ ‌just‌ ‌because‌ ‌it’s‌ ‌not‌ ‌my‌ ‌story‌ ‌to‌ ‌tell.‌ ‌But‌ ‌I‌ ‌will‌ ‌say‌ ‌that‌ ‌the‌ ‌acts‌ ‌that‌ ‌Cry‌ ‌performed‌ ‌were‌ ‌absolutely‌ ‌illegal.”``
-Cheyenne told the crew that her and Cry dating was legal and they didn’t question it after that.
-He didn’t leave after Cry cheated because “you‌ ‌don’t‌ ‌quit‌ ‌your‌ ‌job‌ ‌because‌ ‌your‌ ‌boss‌ ‌cheats‌ ‌on‌ ‌their‌ ‌significant‌ ‌other.‌ ‌You‌ ‌do‌ ‌your‌ ‌job‌ ‌and‌ ‌you‌ ‌don’t‌ ‌deal‌ ‌with‌ ‌that‌ ‌person.”
-Cry cheated on Cheyenne with Red as well as Ocean
-Snake was given info that the most recent inappropriate activity Cry did was 2 days before he posted his video.

Sage accused Scott Jund of abusing her and then privates her Twitter account. She did not explain ANY info or post any proof.

June 23rd
Cheyenne mentions a time when Jund threatening her, does not post proof “Because steam doesn’t save chat logs” and never mentions it again.

Auri streams to discuss with people. Twitch laters removed the VOD? Only the first hour of the stream is transcripted.

Snake posts on Twitter that he is in contact with someone who can legally help any victims, and offers to connect victims who come forward.

Russ posts a tweet addressing Red's cheating. Explains what happened with Angel and what he knew about Cheyenne & Ocean.

Shortly after Russ's tweet, Angel posts a Twitlonger about Russ and Cry.

Russ then goes live
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/659764039
Transcript: http://archive.md/ogw6X
Important bits:

June 24th
Ziegs continues to respond to people on Twitter claiming she didn’t know Ocean was underaged.
Ocean proceeds to post proof that not only did Ziegs know Ocean was underage, but Ziegs also told Ocean to stay silent or they would face repercussions.
Ziegs sent Beanie a message saying ALL of the crew knew, Snake shuts this down by posting a Discord chat he had with her a few days ago of her lying to him saying she didn’t know either.

Auri claims Cry is messaging her and she posts her conversation live for her Discord server.

Auri streams for the second time and claims Cry is messaging her during.
Transcript: http://archive.md/862CG

Beckens come out and says she is the girl Cry was sending messages to 2 days before releasing his video.

June 25th
Maizilla comes out against Cry saying she was also groomed (as an adult)

Beckens accuses Auri of faking screenshots.

Scott posts a big info dump on Cry, including proof from victims that gave the okay for him to publicize this.
Oceans claims ownership of the 1st, 7th, 9th and 13th pictures in Scott’s post.

Snake posts a twitlonger, he will be sending all the info that comes from victims who come forward and contact all the platforms Cry is on.

Chris brings up concerns to Jund stating that Cry is claiming he has no idea who Auri is. Jund asks Auri for proof.
Chris corroborates

Auri provides proof. Chris and Scott admit it may not be 100% verifiable proof, but is enough for them.

Magnta says that her a Cry were “Fuckbuddies”

Tori comes forward and says she knows another underaged victim, but they will come out publicly on their own time. She then posts a dm the victim has of Cry talking to her acknowledging their age.

Auri gets doxxed, nopes out.

June 26th
Auri comes back, found out who doxxed her. Was someone she knew irl who is a fan of Cry.

Magnta posts screenshots of her asking Cry about his inappropriate relationships.

Chris confirms there are ~18 people so far.

June 28th
Ocean clearly confirms that Cry sent him pictures and video of his penis while knowing Ocean was underaged.

Lucius comes out as another FWB of Cry.
Tweet: http://archive.vn/0V1Vx
Twitlonger: http://archive.vn/OPTpW

June 29th
Draxr comes out with a statement

Voice actor Michaela Laws makes her stance that she believes Auri is lying, but otherwise stands with the victims and regrets making her opinions public.

June 30th
Auri nopes out, again.

July 4th
Steph (aka bonne nuit) gives testimony about her relationship which spans since before Cry was on YouTube

Jund had a report from a victim who turned out to be false and gives the advice not to believe anything blindly

July 5th
Auri returns.

July 10th
Snake confirms he made reports to authorities, but nothing had been done in two weeks.

July 15th
Cheyenne confirms she has gone "the best route" to authorities, mentioning the FBI.

September 9th
Cry is officially banned on Twitch

September 11th
Chelsey (Ast) comes out with allegations being one of the more recent victims. Possible context may be missing.

November 2nd
Cry changes his pfp to "More to Come". Possibly hinting that he still intends to make a statement… eventually.

January 23rd
Susie came out stating she knew Cry for nearly a decade and was a 13 year old victim (this turned out to be FALSE)

February 13th
After a short "deactivation" period on Twitter, anons call out Susie's attention grabbing, which causes her to admit to forging her allegations.

February 14th
Auri leaves again, and deletes her Discord server.

Last Snake knew, there were 14 people involved. Last Chris knew, there were 18.

The people in question:

Ryan Terry (Cryaotic)
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/ChaoticMonki/featured
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CryWasTaken
Tumblr: https://cryaotic.tumblr.com/

Former LNC members:
Russ Money
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/russ_money
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Russ_Money

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ScottJund
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ScottJund

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/snake
Twitter: https://twitter.com/msf_actual

The actual worst kind of people:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/_daaes
Tumblr: https://daaes.tumblr.com/

People who have come forward publically with evidence:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/OceanHrvx
tumblr: https://oceanhrvx.tumblr.com/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/LadyTiabeanie

Twitter: https://twitter.com/bubblegumpompom

Others involved in this mess:
Angel "I'm sof uwu and hungry for clout"
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lovexombie
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lovexombie
CuriousCat: https://curiouscat.me/lovexombie

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Magnta555
CuriousCat: https://curiouscat.qa/Magnta
Link tree: https://linktr.ee/magnta555

Twitter: https://twitter.com/whatifiwasmc

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/beckenss
Twitter: https://twitter.com/beckyrallens

Twitter: https://twitter.com/torided

Twitter: https://twitter.com/smnius
CuriousCat: https://curiouscat.me/smnius

Twitter https://twitter.com/starryeyedeyes

Twitter https://twitter.com/midnite_circus

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/heychrisfox
Twitter: https://twitter.com/heychrisfox

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTmd_8nUYZpd2CUEGx47RAQ
Twitter: https://twitter.com/coyotemation?lang=en

No. 1164780

Not sure if the Auri argument is going to continue as one anon put it:

>Maybe one day we'll get an answer.

>Either from Cry/Auri themselves or, if Chey is serious about talking to a Detective, then eventually they'll get all the logs straight from Discord. No one will be able to hide at that point.

If anyone has ever lied, the police will pull the records of him and every victim and find out. They're not going to rely on screenshots as evidence.

If there are other falsified victims out there, they might as well come forward beforehand before it becomes an official issue. But seeing as how well the public took Susie's confession, I'd say it's more likely that someone lying would just ghost.

No. 1164790


Honestly it's already a big enough issue when one considers how it negatively impacts the claims from the other victims. Whatever scrutiny surrounded them has just tripled in light of this Susie/Auri shit.

Besides, if this issue gets higher up the law enforcement ladder, I doubt any victims will be able to share much "new" information publicly without a risk of damaging any cases they might try to make against Cry. I'd be wildly surprised if any of us will hear about police/police records/etc.

No. 1164841


If someone else turns out to be false, I don't see why they wouldn't share that with the public. It will no longer add anything to the case.
If they do keep it hush hush until a trial ever happens and it comes out then, it'll give Cry's lawyers a way to delegitimize any real victims. Which is why it's better if they come out sooner rather then later, either on their own or publicly outed by an investigation.

So, lets hope there aren't any other false victims, but if there are, they better come out of the woodwork now before they end up helping Cry's case.

At least we know Chey and Beanie and/or Ocean are legit (depending on who you think Cry was talking about in his video).

No. 1164918

I don't know about federal law but I know a bit about FL law. The only people that would have a case would be Beanie, Chey, and Ocean. Rereading Beanie's initial post it seems as if she was groomed but there wasn't anything overly sexual before she turned 18. Cheyenne might have a decent chance if she's pursuing it correctly, but with how she's acted in the past I wouldn't be surprised if she's focusing on going after Scott and the others instead of Cry. With Ocean being the youngest and in the same state as Cry, however the statute of limitations is 3 years from the occured date or the victims 18th birthday, so that line is missed unless Cry kept cp.

No. 1165024


It might still be enough to get the authorities to dig a little deeper into him. As people love to say, once a pedophile, always a pedophile. Chey and Ocean's stories give the police probably cause to look into ALL of the allegations and logs to see if he continued the pattern.

No. 1180346

File: 1615325636505.png (582.77 KB, 720x540, cryaotic.png)

No. 1180374


Where'd you get that?

No. 1180388


his sister's facebook

No. 1180415

No. 1180418

Please don't. Sharing a private FB page is no different than doxxing. It's against the rules.

We have a face reveal. People can stop complaining about it now.

No. 1180491

Jesus if cry is really this fat loser, then how the hell did he groom all those idiots?

No. 1180501

16 year olds have no self esteem?

No. 1180525

Hate to say it but that absolutely checks out, just makes his fake wokeness as he lost his mind at the end even funnier kek

16 y/o girls have low self esteem and value attention over physical attraction, especially when you don't have to stare at that neckbeard the whole time

No. 1180629

good god, how disturbing

No. 1180737

This is him, yeah.

No. 1180746

my 14 yr old self is shaking

No. 1180773

Same anon….same..

No. 1180823

Is this 100% confirmed? It doesn’t look like his voice matches his face?

No. 1180827

This is a weird comment just so you know, but the simpering affected voice he used on streams? It really goes with the face.

No. 1180837

I just think some people have voices that match or don’t match their face, same with singers. Idk how to explain sorry lol

No. 1180938

There isn't really a way to confirm it without someone outing themselves, but this IS him.

No. 1180940

Knowing Cheyenne once she sees it on here she will make a tweet about it.

No. 1180942

how recent is this photo?? holy shit

No. 1180953

Looks older, honestly, but still is pretty accurate

I would be surprised if she said anything about it, no but I'd love to be proven wrong! She's just been so adamant about not outing him, wouldn't even confirm the first picture released (which is the same dude as this picture btw)

No. 1181381


i got it from his sister's facebook, i think it was from 2012ish

No. 1181417

For reference, the old pic is at >>142459

No. 1181447

link pls

No. 1181451

File: 1615437147404.png (23.81 KB, 726x119, cry.PNG)

actually i think there's more proof to confirm that this is really him. i remember when i used to watch his videos, he mentioned he wears glasses and has blue eyes. so, confirmed i guess.

No. 1181458


Do not stalk his sisters account, you creeps.
My god, I can't believe that needs saying.

No. 1181498

Do not post family members unless they are directly involved in the cow's drama. That includes social media links.

No. 1181550

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No. 1181553

Jesus, no wonder he had a myriad of depressions and mental issues. Imagine looking like this and deceiving the whole huge fan base into thinking you're a skinny bishounen. My conscience wouldn't let me at least not mention I'm fat. Or I'd at least rapidly lose weight and get surgery but I guess he's a lazy fuck.

No. 1181992


He did lose weight.
I think he was still overweight while dating Cheyenne, because I remember once she called him an "ugly fat fuck" on stream. Such a nice girlfriend.
But after Cheyenne he lost weight. I think even on his birthday stream he mentioned losing a bunch of weight.
And there's a few times he's mentioned his weight, issues with weight, and/or body type on stream.

No. 1181996

I don't know why you felt the need to add this. Yeah, he lost a bit, but let me assure you it wasn't much to make a difference and that old picture is still pretty accurate.

No. 1182004

Ok? Doesn't change that he's ugly as shit with a neckbeard. Even losing weight wouldn't save him kek

No. 1182010


Uhh, because this anon >>1181553 said he deceived people because he never mentioned his weight, which he has at least a couple times. That's why I said this.
Then mentioned that they'd at least lose weight, which he has, so I said it.

It's called correcting misinformation. However you feel about it is your business, but they were making a bunch of wrong assumptions and I corrected them.

No. 1182014

You said it like you can trust what he fucking says lol
I'm sure he's hot now, guys hahaha

No. 1182019


Well… he said he was a bigger guy and then we get a picture of a bigger guy.
Just putting two and two together, bud. He apparently didn't lie about it. And he's not the only person who's said he's lost weight.

No. 1182024

i'm the one who posted the photo, please stop asking me to link his sister's facebook, i'm not going to. i've been sitting on this picture of him for a while debating on if i wanted to post it (i have a few more photos of him as well if you guys want to see) and i decided to on a whim. everything that has been asking for a face reveal can stop asking now, but why would i dox his sister? lol

No. 1182026


everyone* my bad

No. 1182071

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Pretty sure he mentioned on his birthday/breakdown stream he had lost over 100 pounds. He had previously streamed ring fit adventure in October 2019 and put in his weight

No. 1182073

>>1182026 I personally want to see more pics of this hideous beast, so share away anon, if you feel like it

No. 1182079

File: 1615499259850.png (467.13 KB, 720x540, cryaotic1.png)

No. 1182081

File: 1615499293912.png (512.42 KB, 720x540, cryaotic2.png)

No. 1182083

I side with Chey in that I don't support sharing his photos. It's a breach of boundaries.
And disregarding his boundaries because he's a terrible person doesn't make it any better. It's kinda shitty.
The least we can do is be better than him.(moralfagging)

No. 1182084

stop crying. the guy is a piece of shit and this would have happened sooner or later anyway.

No. 1182086

This is how I imagine CH looks like but mexican

No. 1182087


Why should cry be the only public figure on this forum with the right to privacy when he's a literal child predator and the only offence most of the other people with threads here have is that they're an egirl or have a bad personality

No. 1182088


he had the chance to be better than himself, too. many times. im not photo anon but he didn't care about the people he affected either, chey included

his "boundaries" what happened to everyone else's boundaries he crossed repeatedly?

chey is just trying to do that one last act of kindness. if she wanted she could have grilled him alive. probably still suffering from victim mentality

the guy is not a spy. it's not his address or his financials or anything. this is a face that people have seen for years and never realized it was cry. people have spoken to him, passed by him and touched him without realizing he's a famous online creep with money and tons of women dying at his feet

No. 1182089

These are beautiful because they don't even look like they were taken in the past decade. I'm not doubting that it's him and that they're recent-ish enough to still represent what he looks like, it's just that everything from the classic pube neckbeard and unkempt long hair to the glasses frames and the shirt looks like we're viewing some ancient artifact from forum meetup photo galleries in the 00s. Delicious. I hope there will be a confirmation from his exes and that the Corpse Husband face reveal and every subsequent leak will give us similar beasts.

No. 1182091


Yeah, he's a piece of shit. So we should be too?

Everyone has a right to their boundaries. Everyone. That's why this board exists, because shitty people cross boundaries. Because one asshole crosses someone else's boundaries doesn't give others the right to cross theirs. It's all disgusting.

No. 1182092

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here's another gem, had to cover the other person's face and tattoos

No. 1182093

You're confusing this site with a callout platform. Go back to where you came from or be quiet instead of telling us how you think the site should function. Maybe read some older threads or marvel at the vast amounts of other celebrated leaks.

No. 1182095


interesting choice to wk for a pedophile but ok

No. 1182098


personally I wouldn't have cared how he looked if he wasn't an asshole

cryaotic: insecure overweight guy uses his lack of face reveal and relatively nice voice to woo countless young women sexually and emotionally while unable to deal with his own self-image and the reality of what he ended up creating

there are some legit ugly men on youtube and twitch making a killing because they are taken seriously. nobody would fucking care what cry looks like. but he had to sell an image to make himself feel better which fine, whatever, BUT then he went and couldn't keep it in his pants EVEN WHEN HE HAD A GIRFLRIEND

the guy legitimately had a person who loved him and wanted him and he couldn't even be happy with that.

No. 1182102

Why is he always wearing the same shirt? Didn't he have more clothes?

No. 1182103


from what i could tell, those pictures were all taken on the same day except for the ones in the car

No. 1182135

I know Chey and Ocean probably aren't all that cute, but gorgeous women thirsted after this creature. Hope this doesn't veer too far into blogpost territory but I used to be FB friends with a very popular costhot who would write desperate posts asking for advice on how she could get in touch with him despite his large fanbase and even tried to become a streamer herself for a while in order to talk to him. He had a sizeable audience back then but it was at the very least 7 years ago. I guess she wasn't young enough for him.

No. 1182182

get off this site and stop drawing attention to yourself. embarrassing bitch

No. 1182228

What gorgeous women are you talking about? Everyone he thirsts after are fatties

No. 1182292

Lol what? HE thirsts after? Are you dumb? Ocean isn't fat even close.

No. 1182412

im losing my mind truly

No. 1182833

He looks like a tard with his wrangler.

No. 1182864

I said gorgeous women thirsted after HIM, not the other way around. He had some legit options but stuck with ugly, awkward twitter fangirls. That told us everything we needed to know from the get go, the face reveal is just confirmation.

No. 1183122

calling them ugly and awkward when they were like 15 is harsh imo

No. 1186449

could you imagine posting this to Tumblr back in Cry's peak and all the young 15 year olds absolutely losing their minds. i would've been extremely shocked

No. 1186615

He's the literal embodiment of a discord groomer LOL

No. 1191351

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Guess a lot of people would like that list as well


No. 1191401

I guess? I don't know why you're posting half a conversation between people effected by him lol

No. 1191641

It's still funny to me how he's not just a regular very ugly guy, he's like turbo-fugly fat ginger AGP smile neckbeard.
I honestly didn't expect it to be this bad lol

No. 1192626

Not only is he fat. But he’s also ginger. And has unkept curly hair. And a piggy nose. And glasses. I don’t think ANYBODY expected it to be this bad.

No. 1192656

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No. 1192725

Thats The Horizon and not Cry, correct?

No. 1193388

god i still dont like angel.. something is so off about her and how she has inserted herself into the spot of one of cry's victims
also i find it weird that her and russ are streaming together again… like dude..

No. 1193424

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I don't blame you. She's a liar. I mean in her statement she said she never dated Cry, but one of her friends slipped after Maya gave her statement.
Angel was super clingy with Cry, especially anytime he spoke to another woman. Even other female streamers, she'd pull him off stream to yell at him and basically tell him he was only allowed to stream with her. She used him for his fame and his clout, and when becoming a victim became more lucrative, she jumped on that train.
Also it's funny how she is with Russ these days considering how much shit she used to talk about him behind his back.

No. 1193512

She never said she didn't date him. She said she didn't date him for 2 years. She was very obviously affected by a lot, and I don't think it's wrong for her to talk to others that were too, but like, hate her if you want, lol
You guys hate all the girls involved.

No. 1193515

Proof about her saying he couldn't stream with other females, though? He streamed with other females constantly. Naomi, Summer, that one micheyla girl, sheena, hafu, there were so many others that I don't remember all the names tbh

No. 1193523

lol, tehchan. I saw her go crazy on discord after everything. She was like obsessed with cry, everything she did was dedicated to him. Really troubled kid though, she talked about an abusive family a lot, but like had also said she used to fantasize about cry raping her. So fucked up.

No. 1193534


Cry has a thing for narcissists. That's why people don't like them. They're all pretty obsessed with themselves.

No. 1193777

Cry IS a narcissist, I wouldn't consider anyone he was involved with one iMo. I moreso see a pattern in preying on vulnerable people, especially those struggling with mental health, but I don't have a degree in anything yet. Just my 2 cents.

No. 1194002


Cry isn't a narcissist.
You think he is because he took advantage of people? That's not what a narcissist is. It's only a small part.

Narcissists center everything around themselves in a hostile way. They get easily angered "Narcissistic rage" being a thing. When argued with they fight back. Nothing is ever their fault.
I'd like to remind you how Cheyenne always acts when someone talks about what she did to Zeigs. Her apologies are angry, never sincere, and always come with a reason why she wasn't really responsible.

They believe that they should be revered when they're reviled. If Cry were a narcissist, he'd still be in the public eye, fighting to prove how amazing he is.

They hold grudges like nothing else, remembering every slight against them and using it against the person who slighted them. I don't remember that being in any of the allegations.

Narcissists are manipulators, but they do so through guilt and making the other person seem like the villain or to gaslight people into questioning themselves. And it's usually vindictively. While the victims made it seem like Cry manipulated them by being overly nice and flirty. Not a narcissistic trail.

Seriously, if you do a google search on what narcissists do to people, it matches Cry's girlfriends more than him.

No. 1194016


Being nice and flirty is a narcissist trait. At least in the beginning, before they unmask and show that they're actually controlling and hostile. He did manipulate through guilt, but I don't think very many statements actually showed that he ever became hostile though.
I remember a bunch of victims said he treated them really well to the point that they didn't realize he was manipulating them.

No. 1194063

In your definition it would ONLY match Cheyenne. Aren't narcissists full of themselves too? Cry was definitely incredibly full of himself, and considering how many people he had things going with at all times he clearly enjoyed power and manipulation.

No. 1194104


My definition came from having a narcissist in my family. Having an ego isn't narcissism on its own. They are not just manipulative but incredibly destructive and always think they are in the right. Once you've been under one, they are easy to spot.

I don't even think Cry had much of an ego. He joked about his ego, but he also used some of those fans, particularly Beanie as a therapist. I remember at least twice when he'd ask people if they thought he was a bad person. I don't even think he liked himself, and you don't need to be full of yourself in order to manipulate people to feel better about yourself.

Aside from "enjoying power and manipulation" based off of his need to use his fans to validate himself makes him a sad, lonely POS, not a narcissist.

No. 1194125

My dude, you did NOT know him, you knew what he showed you. Your "expertise" on this is off.

No. 1194143

nah man. also have experience with narcissists. you're way off. his behaviour lines up perfectly.

your opinions your opinion though ig.

No. 1194210

Does anyone have this girls accounts? I want to search through her tweets to see if there is anything else about Angel and Russ

No. 1194216

think she nuked her accounts

No. 1194373

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Well for anyone who hasn't seen these. I'll post them here. Angel used to claim that Russ was emotionally abusive to her, basically, and it's why she distanced herself from him and went to Cry.
Now Cry is gone, so might as well go back to Russ instead of finding a healthy relationship.

No. 1194379

Is this seriously her shit talking him, though? I haven't been able to read every thread, there's so much, but I thought it'd be much worse than this. This is like the same shit talking everyone does with their friends when dealing with a bad relationship.
It does sound like they should move on from each other, however, their relationship does sound toxic af

No. 1194398


No, this isn't shit talking. She doesn't shit talk in public.
I have some of her shit talking, but I'd have to ask the person she was DMing if I can share them. No promises.

No. 1194441

Haha ok, believe it when we see it.

No. 1194587

Except this wasn't said publicly, it was said in a private discord. I remember because that was the response about people being upset about this stuff, she had said it privately and felt bad that it had been shared.

You guys sure do like to attack anyone involved except the nonce himself. Who the fuck cares if Russ and Angel used to fight… And no longer do. Good for them for being mature and working through things, I guess?

No. 1194773


AKA she shared it to multiple people, some of whom she may not trust completely instead of a fair few that she airs all her grievances to. I wouldn't talk shit about someone in a private Discord but I will shit talk to a close friend.

Anyway, everyone sucks here. Cry is a pedo. Russ is abusive. Cheyenne is still the psycho bitch she's always been. Angel might as well be a sex doll with how fake she is. Ocean keeps to himself in public but gossips with the rest of them behind closed doors. Beanie never shuts the fuck up. None of them even know how to cut the fucking cord and move on. They all might as well keep sucking Cry's dick.
I can keep going, but honestly who even fucking matters anymore?

No. 1194805


I agree with a lot of this, however

I'm sure you've trusted people it turns out you couldn't trust. I don't fault someone for something like that.
Calling Angel a sex doll is apt, but I don't think it's because she is fake, she just accepts anyone's attention. She's desperate and pathetic if anything.
I wouldn't consider discussing a shared experience with other people who shared that experience gossiping. WE gossip, Ocean, I'm sure is still processing things, along with Beanie, which is why she never shuts up. I don't think it's them "not moving on" as much as them trying to heal.

I still fully believe that Auri was fake though, I know she wasn't mentioned, but that susie stuff was so weird and I don't think she was a real person affected by everything. Just imo.

No. 1196613

still 100% convinced auri was a fake. Came out of nowhere after creating a cute persona to milk money out of this situation.
I don't think creating a whole persona/community based on all of this was a great idea just seemed so scummy.
she had twitch and donation buttons/discord all set up insanely fast and had no trouble accepting the pity bucks that came her way.

honestly surprised cheyenne didn't go hard to shill for pity bucks from this. or maybe she did idk.

No. 1196653

Yeah, looking back on everything, that was really gross and she was probably trying to cash out.

I don't think Cheyenne tried for pity bucks, actually. Surprising since she tried so hard for money when she was with him but I'm sure having a girlfriend and a house has calmed her down for money grubbing and she's just a regular old bitch now lol

No. 1196654

Does Cheyenne even have a job? She talks about doing drugs constantly but has never mentioned being an adult

No. 1196802

That she does, and I would assume so? I know she used to talk about giving kids swim lessons but also said she missed swimming recently so I have no idea what she does now… But I assume something? Would be incredibly shitty if Christine was supporting her.

No. 1196878

The only time I ever saw her mention that was when she talked about doing it in high school almost a decade ago, she's a NEET

No. 1196949


She was tweeting about it before covid.

No. 1197445


Sage for late and also simping for the LNC guys, but look at how he treated Jund (esp that LNC with the PS trailers) and Russ. He may have hidden it better with the women he solicited behind closed doors, but he was constantly painting this picture that Jund was the Antiachrist and he was just so uwu good, trying to teach this nasty, vile man how to be Woke. In reality, he clearly hated that Jund is practically a Chad vs Cry's ginger neckbeard, and he wasn't afraid to stand up to Cry. He gaslit an entire community into thinking Jund was an asshole so that he could pull that card anytime he brought up a reasonable complaint.

Cry's exes may also be narcs/have traits, but you can't agree that he doesn't just as much lol

No. 1198297

Last I saw she had lost the job that taught kids to swim and all, so I think Christine is the supporter right now (along with their onlyfans stuff i think?)

No. 1199822

speaking of those two, how many pets do they have? they must have a job/jobs unless cheyennes dad pays for stuff. Last time they did a live stream their house looked like a little shack/trailer. and they had chickens all over. They also showed the dog that cry paid for IIRC(?) a cat, and some rats.

I only remember because the stream was around the time all this came out so I thought there would be something said on stream but they avoided talking about cry or anything related.

sage because it's about cheyenne, but not like theres going to be any milk here anyway cry is gone and will prob stay that way.

No. 1199867

I remember that stream too, I thought that was a MIL unit or something similar since I highly doubt they're land owners in LA/LV or wherever. I think its the dog, some chickens and some rats.

No. 1199998

They also have a cat and I remember they had a turtle at one point unless they killed it or gave it away.
They DO have a ton of animals, I'm sure she has a job… Gotta, right?

No. 1200132

I mean… Homeless people have pets too. Wouldn’t surprise me if those animals are being fed the cheapest and unhealthiest shit possible. You know, the stuff that’s 90% ash. I can imagine their trailer home or whatever smells rank.(Sage)

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