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Thats why Lolcow has becoming annoying when it comes to Venus. While the one for her mother has Venus involved in it people moan if you derail or if you talk shit about Venus.
What really annoys me is that 5 minutes ago people used to bitch about Venus so so much but now 2 minutes later its all "how dare you say that!" Or as the other anon says "you're salty!". Nah people are allowed to have their own opinions, thoughts ect. Not everyone is taken by Venus even though shes moved away from her mother. Some people still just dont like her, but oh well.
But yeah we can just throw in Venus updates in this thread, videos and discuss properly. Makes sense.
Why do you think I saged and censored, anon?
Anyway, let's talk about Venus!
There is plenty to discuss. It doesnt always have to be negative thats the thing. Now stop with the "ur so salty and jelly" bs because you cant handle having Venus criticized.
Dakota still had a thread and whete the fuck is here milk these days? We all know shes a micro cock sucking A* weeb who still photoshops. But we proceed to still keep her on float here. Taylor again who has not much drama but relevant is still bitched at and moaned about on here. So why not Venus? Shes relevant, she's popular. Why not her? Again doesnt always have to be negative. Not everything has to be negative.
Its what pays her bills anon. Aside from Manaki working all of Venus's old videos and added drama alas being a amwf couple which is the trophy within the kawaii world all adds and boosts Venus's ego.
Her videos… Some i can stand and others I cant. I think her eating ones are ridiculous but arent all Mukbang videos? I would like to see Venus drop the doll shit. I want her to go back to school, vlog properly and even though I think Tay and Sharlz might leech off her popularity more so. It would be kinda nice to see her vlog outside and come out of her shell.
But i do think part of why they want to know Venus is to gain some fame. They would do the same to Dakota is they had the chance but both are as socially awkward.
Thats why im 50/50 about Venus and Tays relationship atm.
Finally someone else who finds Manaki a creepy bastard. Something is off about the guy…
I dont know what it is fully because he seems alriiiiight but I get a weird vibe.
>>205019>still acts like a child>Doesn't get better
You're one salty bitch.>>205024>creepu manaki pervert
Next time you call veenoos a bully?
She is mentioned in the op, anon.>>205012
Make it 20
Within time >>205028
Why do we care about Tay? Why do we care about Mira? Why why why anon?
Venus has a thread.
Run along now
Calm down samefaggers
We get that you don't want to have the kawaii queen slandered but yet Tay and Dakota are bitched about? Fuck off.
Venus is as lulzy as the rest.
gomenasai for ur butthurt
Taylor isn't lulzy at all, neither is Dakota.
The only reason the two have a thread is because as soon as you lock the threads some PULLfag is going to spam the board with unfunny memes ("CHIPMUNK FACE AHHH~~~")
Go back to PULL
Then why can't we have a thread via Venus to discuss? Videos and shit? Everyone else seems to throw those two under the bus. But yet they can't take the heat when Venus gets a thread. Either its a bunch of kids from PULL or her sympathising white knights who feel they must defend her all the time.
This board is getting worse. If you're offended then too bad so sad.
Its because the ones who love to praise Venus and how dare u say anything about her! parade around maggot's thread and yet people on that thread said "anon make a thread for venus!" so when it happened all hell breaks loose
despite the fact there has been anti-venus tumblrs, blogs ect ect for years now. what difference does this make?
It isn't my thread though retard?
Its not just for milk. Didn't you read upwards? Its for things other than milk. Also milk will no doubt come now that Venus is getting together with the other bunch of jvloggers. This shit is all in the making anon, be patient.
"Stop being salty"
In other words "I can't handle people talking bad about kawaii Venus!"
taylor has a thread - barely any milk and the girl is genuine
kaka has a thread - she's been in hiding for months
kota - only shoops but no milk
venus's mother has milk alas venus was always surrounded by milk and has milk worthy things
I think she's pretty relevant
is some complete vagina on legs and can't handle that Venus has a thread plus continues to spam with "omg salty!" or its the cunts from Margret's thread.
We don't just have to talk about the bad things about Venus. Could talk about improvement and shit. That would be a start because for one I think her videos and potential could be a lot better. She's at 1M subs and her content is rubbish. Not saying that to be salty but its… no good! I for one actually think as boring as she is Taylor's videos are better. Sorry what I say offends the Venus supporters but not everyone wants to bow down to her pink glitter lolita platforms and kiss them.
What about her ED? Clearly there was one (is one? idk). Shit with Manaki at DisneyLand and I know people keep prying that off with "He's a genuine nice guy! He's good for her! He saved her!" yet he was some cretin who probably used to wank over her YT videos when she was like 14 because he's got an obsession with dolls. I don't even know.
But there is stuff to talk about whether people like it or not.
How many times do we see "omg her face is alien" on Kota's thread when its always the same but yet we stick it out? The thread is here and its staying.
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Reported. Pls ban for at least a week. Would benefit their mental health as well.
Have to agree, the video where she showed the fried chicken vending machine was probably the only semi decent offering so far as it showed a bit of real life rather than cutesy, toddler eating huge puddings.
Maybe if she did more realistic videos on living in japan, visas, work, taxes day to day living when you are not 100% fluent and with no real company apart from your boyfriend. I get the vibes that manaki is just for convenience, Venus needed rescued and he was her only option. But who knows if they will start to have a more rounded relationship with time.
>>205068>She's not in the UK, she's in Japan and it's not a cute thing to say to your huusband.
She used to live in the UK and she's European, where they teach predominantly British English.
Kindly shut up. And I think it's an adorable thing to call someone you love.
They're different people; one has been banned for shitposting other places, but you need to stop derailing threads.>>205043
And, for someone likes to talk about samefagging, you sure do it a lot.
Lastly, for all of your complaining in multiple threads about wanting a Venus thread, no one is stopping you from doing this. We're attempting to stop your multiple thread derailment.
Yandere jokes? Fuck off weeb.
Venus is not from the UK she only lived there and she knows it's not a nice thing to say in other cultures, no reason to call her man pet and treat him like one.
No it's not a nice thing to say in Japan/many oyher places, believe me. just imagine the scene presenting your bf to the world as your pet. Common sense. Stop white knighting her.
This was for you -> >>205075
, sorry wrong anon.
Just imagine the scene where a high profiled youtuber is acting as a character online. You know literally nothing about Venus/Manaki's personal lives, despite how much they put on the internet. If I was a betting lady I'd put money on Venus simply going through a character phase for her online persona.
Genuinely drop the pet thing cause it's derailing your own thread, it's the only "milk" you've come up with and it's pathetic.
Her videos are in English though, and she's European?
There are barely any universal pet names (yep, that's what they're called) in Japanese, except for like …anata.
Why are you so hung up on Manaki appearing subservient to Venus? He's obviously strong, responsible and mature when be needs to be. He's not so typical, which is (likely)why Venus was attracted to him. She was never going to marry some normal bro. But he's also part of the otome kei danshi demographic, which is not that uncommon these days. I know several guys like that here in Japan. They all have normal, full-time jobs and healthy relationships too. They're weird by Western standards, but nothing nefarious.
We know so little about him besides him being an otaku, crossdresser and cat lover. He may enjoy being called "pet" and feeling cute when he actually has a lot of adult, "manly" responsibilities. It could be escapism or even kink. Who knows? But have you looked at Manaki's instagram or old tweets? He clearly enjoys this stuff.
Also don't forget that there are many anime and shojo manga fans in Venus' audience, meaning they love the senpai/kouhai, yandare girlfriend/pet boyfriend gimmick. Not everything is so serious.
The original post wasn't only about that tho, I mentioned some things to discuss but anons protecting her ass focused on the pet thing, and it was the less important point to me tbh. Like I said in the original post, ( >>205062
) many here are just defending her ass but they criticize Kirsten, Kota, Taylor and others for exactly the same things the Weeb Khalessi is doing.
Something along the lines of him saying he fell in love when he started watching her videos (she was only 13). And him showing up at Disneyland (which honestly imo, isn't that creepy considering she's well known, and fans often do this with people they like).
He's only 4 years older, and the age thing doesn't really matter like that in Japanese culture.
However, he did consistently tweet her like daily for many years before they met. But eh. It wasn't bad stuff, although he did seem pretty obsessed from the start.
I know. And because he knew of Venus since she debuted, people automatically assume he was jacking it to her from day 1. But we have absolutely no proof of him expressing such thoughts when she was younger or leaving inappropriate messages to her. He went to see her at Disneyland after she announced it to fans, but I don't think he had any other plans besides a photo and an autograph, like a typical idol.
This whole pedophile thing really comes from what people imagine he was thinking/doing years before they met, but she was 17 going on 18 when they started dating. Didn't even have their first kiss until months into the relationship. Margaret said Venus was still a virgin when she ran away. That doesn't sound a raging pervert pedophile trying to rush Venus into something before she was ready. The only one looking to rush things was Margaret, as we saw in the old messages where Manaki talked about it being early to marry.
The only people who criticize Taylor for her style or anything other oh-so-milktastic~~ are the annoying, nit picking tayfags from pull, or someone random who thinks baggy clothes don't suit her.
Kristen gets criticized for yellow fever because she was really hunting japanese men just to stay in glorious nippon like kota. Venus wasn't hunting for a boyfriend, she just happened to find someone who likes her and who she likes who happened to be japanese. They did get married quite suddenly, tho.
Venus dresses like how a young woman interested in kawaii culture usually dresses like, not like a fucking 12-year-old. If her style is one of the only things you find to talk shit about, well shit.
The ED thing is true though, but it's really not milk or even snowflakey if she doesn't keep on giving shitty advice or flaunting her ananess.
I don't really mind a Venus thread because I have always had a interest and a liking to her and her weeb shenanigans, but some of you anons are just reaching and being complete faggots. And somehow the thread came up just moments after Tay had Venus in her vlog, coincidong? The reaching and faggotry says no.
The problem with past claims like this is we have no idea if it was Venus… or venus-because-of-Maggot.
It has been stated that Maggot had control over all Venus' online accounts, so she could have claimed venus was shorter to fit in with the kawaii living doll image.
I don't actually recall Venus ever physically stating her height where it's clear it isn't Maggot behind the keyboard
There are so many channels that just follow YouTube trends like this… why wouldn't Venus join in too? I'm sorry, would you prefer to go back to her eery music videos where she looks like a child prostitute that her mom made her do?
The people on here saying she hasn't improved since margo got out of the picture are insane. She's come out of her she'll completely and has turned out to have a good sense of humour and fun editing style. You guys are reaching and I'm 100% with the anons saying its rabid Taylor fans. You're all nuts.
Venus ain't as lulzy. Dakota shoops herself into an unrecognisable fetus, desperately clutching to fame. Venus uses glowing filters sometimes but it's hardly lolcow worthy. Taylor has had weird plastic surgery and came to be from copying the fetus so that makes her interesting.
What has Venus done that's even lolworthy? It's been revealed that all the cringey shit she used to do as a young teenager was staged by her bitch mom so it's not even fair or interesting to poke fun at. She doesn't shoop excessively and show off, or shovel filler into her cheeks. She just sits at home making videos with her bf while her crazy mom spergs out about it.
This thread is a reach.
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seriously you people think this is hilarious?? hahaha so goofy venus! hahaha
not a venus fan but tbh its interesting to see her other faces besides the ugu doll ones in her videos
idk gives her more life
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and samefag here but c'mon.
There is anon? >>205109>>205107
Lets talk about Venus's kawaii dumb looking IG pics
kek when people cry over Venus having a thread
get over it
are you serious? have you seen her old videos? and now don't tell me that it was margaret telling her what to do.
those "back to school" video it's
oozing with weeabooness
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True. Rule of thumb for Hafu kids is that they end up looking mostly like the japanese half except with huge awkward gaijin noses
Yeah, a lot of haafu kids don't look anything like those half-Japanese celebrities everyone fawns about. >>205119
is being too optimistic.
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now that's a heaping load of assumptions you're making there
just because she has a Japanese husband and lives in Japan is okay for her to be a typical weeaboo and saying faito, having a yandere persona, going around with fake school uniform (and not for cosplay)?
have you seen her instagram? she's not talking about culture and country - all she does is acting like an animu girl and calls her husband "sempai". So, yeah, that's how weeaboos act.
Thanks for fucking reminding me that they haven't released music in like three years.>>205128
I agree, she isn't really bringing down any kind of community which is usually part of my litmus test for what I consider a cow.
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I wonder why she delete the last part of the caption
Because she probably has anxiety from all the stress of everything happening so she'll be seconding guessing everything she does.
She'll write something that sounds depressing/sad because letting it out makes her feel some relief then she'll realize it was a bad thing to write and will think she shouldn't let the bad stuff out like that for her fans sake and change it.
I get the feeling you are the same person/peopleinsulting her this way. Of course family look similar, but saying this about her is unnecessary. She's nowhere near as busted and has forgiving proportions. She may look a bit goofy, but eyes, nose, jawline, forehead and even mouth are all MUCH better.
Poor Manaki. He really wasn't prepared for a fraction of what Venus has received over the years. I remember him deleting a comment a while back calling himself ugly after receiving a series of compliments. Maybe he was bullied as a kid about his looks/being dorky?
Because people have fluffed her ass too long over Maggot drama so now she thinks she's empowered
and can do no wrong. Seriously, this is a kid without any supervision whatsoever of course she'll turn into an egotistical brat if she keeps pouting face on insta and jewtube and getting money for doing fuck all.
At least when Maggot was slavedriving she had to put effort into doing interviews and making appearances every now and then.>>205005>travelled country to country by her mother speaking fuck knows how many languages
It really amazes me how people can be impressed with her gypsy lifestyle and having no decent fluency in any of the languages she speaks. Her word choices in japanese and english are awkward and don't make sense, on top of her pronunciation being absolutely grating and at times illegible. Her grammar is often riddled with errors and spelling mistakes.
Like just because she happened to pick up speaking a language from immersion and takes 10 minutes to write crappy insta captions doesn't make her unique.
Stupid anon, that last part was when I said "there's a reason why she doesn't want him in hiss bed" was a fucking joke, that weeb randomly decided to confess the world why they sleep in separate beds, it was a completely unnecessary thing to explain. I joke about her wanting him in a separate bed because he's fugly/ have a flat cold ass…
But don't worry anon I know she's just pretending to be an innocent little dolly but we all know she loves to have eggs and winnie for breakfast in bed.
You don't know what kind of activity I have on this site or what I write elsewhere.
But here you are, making more baseless claims. Do you not have a normal sexlife? Beds are not the only place to have sex and you have no idea how Venus and Manaki interact off the Internet. It's not weird to have a separate room for filming and keeping extra stuff either.
Are you 12? you're sounding as insane and unreasonable as the Taylor sperg
You bitch against everyone that they must be venus fans if they disagree with you and that you're just being critical of venus but you're legit sounding insane.
It belongs in manure. It's just people sperging over who is and isn't doing any arselicking.
Anyway, I was watching her videos last night. Some candy videos and something about vending machine fried chicken. I find that I can take Venus in small doses. But too many of her videos in a row and I get annoyed. But I'll still take her videos over Margo's any day.
she looks very aged in this video. lighting and poor shade of bronzer/foundation perhaps?
hearing her speak english sounds like she has a mouth full of cotton
I'm saging this because late but you are lying. She wasn't 13, she was 16, and it's in the old Venus threads here inc caps.
By all means critique Venus if you want but this thread reads like some of Margo's favourite lies. Literally other threads in this same site prove that "fact" wrong.
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there's no fucking milk
can't you boys shut up until Manaki reaches his final form
Do you have evidence of her real voice?
It'll make your claim more valid instead of coming off like a bitter 12 year old.
Her voice hurts my ears… I've not watched her videos in ages and this was just… Why is she dressed in one of those dodgy uniforms? Why do people think this is cute? It's just creepy. She isn't of high school age anymore, not even there and with a Japanese husband too. It just screams… all sorts of wrong shit. But whatever. Tumblr girls did it too ect ect.
This is why Venus never drew me in… she tries too hard and its painful. Glad she's got a new life but its always so cringeworthy watching her. You know those presenters that host little kids tv shows where they have to be enthusiastic? Its like that. Yet her audience is like fucking young women and teenagers.
Venus should go for becoming a Japanese preschool teacher or kids tv host. She'd suit it.
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It's that man hating femnazianon again that's always defending her kawaii uguu fantasy girlfriends from their imaginary opression
Dude. Do you live in Japan or have you even been here? She's a standard otaku, and even though she's a weirdo to the mainstream, she has lots of company. So many mid-twenties otaku women wearing seifuku or even cross-dressing on weekends, playing the burikko angle and frequenting sweets cafes. Like nothing about Venus is unique or unusual in that community.
Check out a Nico nama stream sometime and see an average to below attractive 30 year old woman, in twin tails, talking like a slow child while doing a LP or a masked girl conducting her broadcast in character, with the most ear-splitting anime girl voice. I don't understand why anyone expects Venus to go all normalfag, hook up with a bro or humorless salaryman and drop her nerdy interests. She's playing to the same audience she always has. But that doesn't mean she's acting like a screaming, disrespectful retard off camera.
And Jesus butt-fucking Christ. Who keeps getting hung up on the pet names? You sound so uptight and boring.
It's not a mistake, everytime someone said something about Venus on Margo's thread the answer was : Make a Venus thread. So this is the space for that.
Jvlogger thread is about Sharla's group, Venus is only friends with Taylor, not exactly part of that group and not exactly a vlogger, so no I don't thibk she fits in there. Actually when anons talked about her there the answer was: Make a Venus thread. Not all of us feel like enjoying her videos and actions, we can discuss about her just like you do with any other girl. I hope you understand.
You see, anon, there's a thing called subjectivity.
What you may perceive and think may not apply to others. Perhaps you have yet to understand that.
>>205119>>205122>>205154>>future sloth eyed mongolian hafu>>jewtube
The racebaiting needs to stop.
We've heard the complaints and many reports about this thread; at some point it may be best to combine Venus with the jvlogger thread if there's no milk. But for now the thread can stay.
As you were.
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She's so fucking bad at photoshop. Look at those arms - especially the crook of the elbow. Terrible.
is trying to sound like an authentic farmer, and is not carrying it off too well
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Her fans are really puzzled by Manaki's omelette IG pic and the caption lol.
Not everyone is a photoshop queen and its bot like its Kota level.
Its barely noticeable
Never said they want to crawl up her ass.
Never said the world was black and white either.
I see you like pulling shit out of your ass though.
Vitue signaller. You're still a piece of shit for being on this website. But please, keep pretending to be a nice guy on lolcow, lol.
How is eating McDonalds sad?
Their artisan chicken sandwich and egg white delight are hella macro friendly
Eating mcdo once in a while is Ok, but it's sad when you eat their shitty burgers twice a week, and she's not eating that sandwich tho, she can do better. >>205256
Who said "eating food is bad" ? Her poor food choices is the main point, not the act of eating. >>205254
Actually, No. >>205257
Well, she posted many Mcdo selfies this week, and it's starting to look like something she does often so yeah. Yes it is popular, but it doesn't mean it's healthy and the world knows mc burgers are cheap junk food.
Yes, and it's still junk food, they know, the world knows. >>205260
They have a specific diet and follow instructions, not Venus's case. Her eating habits are just bad, very poor choices. We don't know what else she eats but based on her videos and what she posts on IG, yes, it's a unhealthy lifestyle. Ask any nutritionist.
This is not supossed to be an insult, I'm actually kinda worried.
This shit right here is why this thread is trash.
Its full of reaching and assumptions.
Eating McD isnt a problem. Japan's McDs is so different than America's. And who cares if shes eating McDs?! Its not you.
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who gives a fuck, let's be real
You wouldn't give a fuck if a random person where starving or eating badly why feign some "concern" for her. Fat people are disgusting, bottom line, I don't care about their health and I don't pretend to, I just don't like looking at them but Venus isn't fat so who really gives a fuck?
You literal have no idea what venus eats or how she spends her days.
Her lifestyle seems pretty normal to me. Most folks in the world eat at fast foods evety othervday. Its easier and cheaper. And she hasnt made a binge watching video since she left Margo.
Her eating habits arent my concern. Worry more about her mother's obsession with her and pray she jumps back to the river she came from so Venus can live easier.
Hell this thread barely talks about her actual posts and are full of tards like you concern trolling.
This thread is about Venus, not Margo. That's why we have two different threads, if you want to discuss about maggot, she's in PT.
This was about her actual posts, she just posted a selfie eating Mcdo AGAIN.
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Dont shit talk mcdonalds, this has less fat than two eggs
So yeah, basically we're back at, "who gives a shit.
Whatever I'll be back when we have a legitimately big reason to dislike this chick, I personally have a shittier lifestyle and eating habits than Venus bc I am a college student who lives on beans and rice so I'm not going to sit around playing concern troll.
So you go to the gym every other day, never eat fast food, drink 2 lt water daily, have a 5 step skincare routine, get all your vitamins and veggies, go to doctors for a check up every six months, etc etc etc?
Because if you don't that's hypocritical. Where do you draw the line? Are we all doing wrong and deserve to be shamed if we don't do that?
I'm not even defending veenos, just think that since she's not a health guru she has literally no obligation to lead a particularly healthy lifestyle.
Which video? Did she claim to be a health guru and knows how to add 7 years you ones life? If not fuck off. Eating McDs isnt gonna kill you any faster than awhole lot of other shit.>>205272
And you are getting asd blasted that she eats
I'm a college student too and I eat healthy and do exercise, you can always find time and a way to improve your lifestyle.>>205277
Yes, that's basically what I do, included the etc etc. I'm not hypocritical, that's why I'm telling you.
Venus is not a health guru, she called herself the guru of cuteness, I don't see the cuteness in eating a bread the size of her head, I don't think it's right to eat only a warm yogurt for breakfast, that's why people like freelee and other youtubers roast people who talk about their crazy and unhealthy tips or diets, if you go to the comment section of that video, you'll see a lot of people saying that's a terrible eating habit.
Name too long, it's just an abbreviation, if you google it, McDonalds appears in the results.>>205282
Yes, actually, but I prefer not to give details about this. >>205286
I know that, I like Mcdo. nitpicking
I just answer what you all write to me.
It wasn't a simple burger , I was pointing out she's eating burgers quite often, and you all raged over that tiny comment because you cannot stand someone not talking only pretty things about her. it's not a gross pig, it's just a very unhealthy girl.
People are more raging that you insulted McDonald's, not Venus
Pick your battles and shut up
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>>205098>"if she doesn't keep on (…) flaunting her ananess"
Yeah. It's not like she made a video, proving how she's having the 'perfect body' just to tell her audience "Hey it doesn't matter!"
No, but really… why dedicate half your video to showing how you can do all those things when it doesn't matter? And lbr, she does look pretty proud when doing those things. It looks more like an extended body check than anything else.
>>205279>Yes, that's basically what I do, included the etc
Really? I'm glad for you, seriously. Still, although health isn't subjective cuteness is, and like it or not, some think eating a bread the size of your head is cute. Mostly people who distance their cute from the real life and just think it looks cute without thinking of how it affects the body, because who cares about a kawaii girl's 2D body?
And anyway, even though I admire your good habits (I'm trying to build some myself) nobody has a moral obligation to follow them. It sounds silly to criticize her for that alone.
Going down the slippery slope of what facial expressions should be generalized to equate to certain feelings or way females carry themselves, kiddo. What are people supposed to look like when they are proud? Seriously, you sound like someone who will tell others, oh that girl had the look that she wanted to be raped.
chemist here with extensive physiology and nutrition edu.
Saturated fats are very misunderstood.Its understandable though, maybe people avoid fats and carbs and sugar because they have little understanding and nutrition education is limited.
Educate yourself- many think shit like adkins and paleo is good for you kek
Lol predictable answer, white knights always say everything was Maggot's idea, when you can't defend her anymore, just blame others.
Like anon said, her idea or not, he does look proud in that video. >>205298
Anon, there're anons literally criticizing Mimei because she has greasy hair, or Rachel pronuncing Jun "wrong", and you crying when someone says anything about Venus? You're in lolcow not PULL. >>205303
Chemist anon, no one said she needs to avoid fats,carbs and sugar, those are necessary too, read again, I said her diet is full of trans fats and satured fats which we all know eating those quite often
<- this is key in that comment, is bad for your health. nice try.
It's a good thing then that Nutritionist isn't a protected term and any random can claim to be one.
Dieticians on the other hand…
Nobody in Japan gives a fuck about her.
The people who care about these crazy gaijin girls are either predatory men like that """"music manger"""" of yukapee or a subset of a subset of a subset of otaku faggots.
The internet amplifies niche opinion and gives a false impression of what is mainstream.
To most Japanese, watching anime past a certain age is pretty weird - let alone being a non-Japanese "youtube idol" whose entire purpose is to seemingly suck up and kiss ass and ingratiate themselves among ordinary normal japanese.
>>205316>The internet amplifies niche opinion and gives a false impression of what is mainstream.
Smartest thing I've read all day.
So now the question is, how do we really gauge out public opinion of things if the internet grossly represents some niche groups?
I think they might have contact outside of the ''public eye''
It seemed to me Tay was genuine in getting to know Venus
And venus does not seem eager to join the j vlog crew
Taylor seems the type of person to respect that and not push it.
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The other day I was watching outfit ideas on yt and I remembered Venus had a nice style back then… I think those videos were the best.
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Fall looks video was the best.
you mean, this thread?
I still don't get it, are people so obsessed with her they're trying to stop her thread? ffs. i know she isn't very milky, but she has her lulzy moments and more irrelevant people have threads.
lots of people are hating on her latest video because she starts it with eyebags and acne, and ofc some people got butthurt over it. i dont think that matters much but the message she tried to send at the end needs to be rewritten. "it's not about how much make you apply, but HOW you apply it" … um, I guess she tried to say it's not about makeup at all, but failed.
To be fair the Hartley taters thread condemns the mother more than anything. The taters have a few memes made but I think the general consensus is that farmers feel bad for them.
Venus really should be over in /snow/ though. This thread isn't /b/ material.
and you fuck explain how these posts here: >>205325>>205326
And the criticism she received in Margo thread of a stupid tutorial pissed you off that much.
You should be banned for lying about the "new thread" just to save her ass of some criticism and some innocent posts about how good she looked there.
It was a time ago,
During Margo drama it was impossible to say anything at all about Venus in Margo's threads, only cringe comments like "I want to befriend her" "She is beautiful"
were allowed by them and farmhand was banning users for derailing
the thread with their super mean comments about her. Make a new thread if you want yo talk about Venus
was Farmhand answer to this issue. Anons obsessed with Weenoos repeated this same comment over and over again too, so one day, I guess one anon had enough and created a new thread. Description wasn't the best, but it was something.
Immediately and as expected, that group of anons cried again and started derailing the thread and making complaints in meta till the point the same biased and drunk farmhand came and moved it to b/ claiming Weenoos had "NO Milk" lol
Discussion continued a little but it triggered
anons that much so they started bumping old threads in b in order to bury this one. They also made several false accusations of people who have been users for a long time.
For months, the thread was quiet and no one wanted to say a word again because it was a mess, sometimes I saw anons complaining in Margo thread but were immediately censured as always, this was entertaining to watch so I decided to raise my voice too, tired of their shit.
It would have been better if they had allowed people to speak and express their point of view, but Na, they think Weenoos is that special kek
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For the record
Tay has milk, farmhand? Ash, Claire and Lola suffering is milky to you? Get your shit together, peace out.
You care since you are here.
Keep bumping those old threads, this shit is going to revive.
Thanks, anons. Yeah, that seems pretty fucked up.>>205339
You obviously care since you popped up to complain. Shoo, shoo.
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Why is her official acc still private? Is it because she doesn't have the blue verified badge anymore?
wtf, so why can't she use some of her YouTube money on that? She needs to stop buying sweets and circle lenses and get those things whitened.>>205346
You're actually right, I had never thought about it before. Visa husbando has better teeth. I think he generally looks better than her tbh, and I'm not that into asian men. Not saying she's fugly, she just needs to take care of herself a little more.
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And even worse, if you try to say something, her fangelics uwu say stupid shit like
"Bleaching is just an american obsession!"
"Drinking tea stains uwu"
"It's NORMAL!! OMG LEAVE HER ALONE!!"
I never bleached my teeth and they're not blinding white but neither corn yellow. They're normal.
And I drink tea since I was born, it's just called HYGIENE and no, having teeth THAT yellow is not normal.
Jfc, her fans would defend her even if she killed puppies, by seeing "Leave her alone!!! ;_;"
>>205352>muh natural defects
So? People are also born with horribly misaligned teeth and jaws that require intensive bracing and surgery to fix. That said, how do you know what she has is genetic anyway? She's admitted to bulimia and she never talks about dental or doctor visits, we have no reason to believe it's not just neglect.
It's not retarded to care about your teeth and want to have them fixed. It shows you care about your health and prioritize it.
Venus is going to regret buying j-fash fads and not investing now and then for dental consultations.>unhealthy teeth are only the types with black or brown spots
Yes, but also yellow teeth can disguise harmful plaque that can lead to periodontal disease. That's why even people with normal teeth can have gum disease. Yellowing can be helped with routine dental cleanings, which Venus doesn't do.
Do farmers have bad teeth or something? I've seen the worst excuses whenever teeth comes up. Take care of yourselves and stop justifying that shit as muh genetics.
We don't have bad teeth, you're just unnecessarily salty.
I've seen you on the other boards and you seem to have this weird obsessive hateboner for Venus. Does the fact that she's married to a jap tickle your jealous weeaboo butthole that
Get a life.
Because I called you out for making excuses about bad teeth?>I've seen you
Fucking WHAT. This is my first post in this entire thread and only because I went on /b/ and saw this stupidity at the top. This is Kaka levels of samefag conspiracy kek
Her teeth are gross get over it. >>205353
This anon has a weird obsession with Venus and gets angry when anons say something about Weenoos. Anon thinks farmers who don't like everything Venus does are literally the same person. Someone came up with a tin foil hat theory that Kiki hates Venus (wut? I've never seen Kiki talking about Weenoos at all, Anon is just paranoid) even though admin confirmed Kiki was not that poster in Margo's thread.
>>205354>I've seen you on the other boards and you seem to have this weird obsessive hateboner for Venus
Conspiracy chan, How can you know this in an anonymous forum? wtf. Why do you assume anons commenting here or in other boards are the same person? did you see how many dislikes Venus got in her last video? fucking 9k! and she has like 30k in one of her yellow face tutorials. As you can see, Weenoos is not exactly the most likeable person in the room, so deal with it.
>Does the fact that she's married to a jap tickle your jealous weeaboo butthole
Not every girl here is into asian men and actually, many in lolcow don't like WEEBnus kek
How old are you again?
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Why constantly insist on calling her HUSBAND boyfriend? Does she do that to look "cuter" ? Does she have fans who don't know she's married?
So marrying the person she allegedly loves and telling others she is married to him makes her uncomfortable..? Please. She is definitely comfortable with showing him since he appears in many of her videos now. The poor guy used to seem so nervous in them. He's the uncomfortable one, not her. Why not call him husband which is way more accurate than bf?
Everyone who follows her knows they're married at this point, no need to try to hide it or whatever she's doing when she refuses to acknowledge him as her visa I mean husband.
Venus, in the past pictures, didn't have her teeth SO YELLOW.
So no, no muh natural defect, sorry you delusional fangelic.
Her teeth are gross, she eats a fuckton of sweets and tea, they stain, she doesn't fucking care.
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just to make sure, here are her teeth in her most recent videos. still gross.
I love the way that she started to semi-permanently wear dark circle lenses to look japanese desu uwu
Nice try, still white.
What really destroys her face (besides her beak) are those horrible eye bags. Ffs. They don't look good, they age her so much. Does anyone think that looks good? Can you explain how? Awful
Also she should stop with the bangs (she looked better without them in the ugly makeup video). She looks her age and that doesn't make her less kawaii~ or anything. Ofc she won't, but should
yep. So uguu かわいい uwu~
she will never really change that hairstyle. I remember her video on otona kawaii. She should really
try a grown up look, she'd look way better. Shes still the same tryhard as ever.
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Manaki described Venus as a gross, selfish bitch.
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I can totally imagine Venus bashing other girls.
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I think farmers can't be wrong, she IS gross. Manaki confirmed it.
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I was going to post this is margo's thread but i guess venus shouldn't be mentioned there, so im gonna post this here since its mostly about venus and its nothing really new.
I was reading the recent comments anons made on her margo's appearance and how the old hag looks ugly and tired.
I always laugh when i see people criticizing her looks and then calling veenoos gorgeous uhuu kawaii goddess uwu
veenoos looks exactly like her mom, just add a few decades more and remove her heavy kawaii makeup, cute angles, circle lenses and filters.
Both have the same face (if you cant see that youre either blind or delusional)
if margo looks like this now imagine how weenoos is going to look in a few years after she hits her mid 20s with all the crap she eats and her supposed lack of good hygiene.
her genetics arent good.
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no she doesn't. even in that super exposed image at the top right, where you literally only see the color of their hair and lips, you can make out mayo's massive penis ball tip nose.
Yes, they do. They have the same face shape, lips, eyes, facial features, etc. I do have to agree that their noses are different. You only think margo is wayyy uglier because of her super wrinkled and saggy skin.
Venus still has time to saver her looks if she starts taking care of her skin, etc. but she does look like her mom, unfortunately.
Her nose is smaller, but I agree, Venus is Margo's mini-me.>>205384
Margo's nose is bigger but Venus does look almost exactly like her. Also, this picture is not a good example at all, Venus had blonde long hair, fake lashes, a tick layer o foundation and makeup and posing like a corpse, I mean "doll".
is really not a good example because Venus' face has a shit ton of makeup on, plus a bunch of dolly stuff glued to it. Remove her filters, props, cutesy stuff and look at Venus bare face and you will see margo.
it's not an attack on Venus, just a fact. you may not like her crazy momster but genetics don't lie.
>>205406>but what is the general consensus on possibly bulimic venus?
Pretty much confirmed when Margo first sperged out and initially dropped the shit on Venus's bulimia among other things. While Venus denied a lot of the other terrible things Margo accused her of doing, she never really denied having an eating disorder.
Would explain her swollen face, yellow teeth, sparse hair, and malaise to not do anything but sit in an apartment and record herself. She's not a healthy looking young woman and she looks so haggard in >>205380
. Spitting image of her mom!
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don't forget she eats a bunch of crap on camera. like the pudding challenge. that could also explain why her teeth look awful.
Pic related: venus' teeth x bulimia teeth>>205399
yay, shes in the right place now
right where she belongs.
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Ugh yeah, that and/or very poor personal hygiene.
the worst part is, Manaki has better teeth and he eats crap too! so no excuses. Ugh imagine to kiss THAT?
Run Manaki, Run!
>yay, shes in the right place now,
right where she belongs.
you can clearly see the difference there NOW and THEN
Then: yellowish but normal
NOW: Sweet corn, basically. >>205434
a kawaii recluse? she is now living with her husband not her momster, no excuses, her teeth and diet got a lot worse now, you are fucking blind.
>>205435>her teeth and diet got a lot worse now, you are fucking blind
? Take a deep breath from being contrarian for a moment and realize I'm just talking about her diet and being facetious in response to anon's comment that she only has a choice between bulimia or being a hamwhale. I posted >>205416
and completely agree she's as worse than ever.
here but anon is probably a bit paranoid because blind fangelics defend her whenever someone says anything remotely bad about ~*Venus~*<3. Forgive anon, pls.
Ignore the last part then, but I think it has always been her own bad decisions regarding food. >>205442
Indeed, they are extremely annoying and their answer for everything is Margo made her do it!1! Weenoos is a survivor!!1! So yeah, forgive me and any other anon in the future not buying that shit.
This whole "Venus is a survivor so don't be too harsh on her!1!1!" is such bullshit. I'm sure many of those anons are fucking self inserting (boohoo, I live/d a fucked up/lonely/shitty life! Oh but Venus broke free and now she's living life with her asian husbando ^-^ oh yay there's still hope for meee too! go Venus, go~)
Seriously. We have snowflakes here who clearly have mental illnesses, shitty parents, depression, etc and no one is making up excuses for them.
Example: Claire and Lola who don't even know they exist and whose only pastime is shitting themselves get so much hate compared to Venus, lol. Her mom is fucking nuts too, by the survivor!!1 logic those girls should be untouchable
Kiki and Dakota too, general consensus is they have terrible parents so let's all just leave them alone and move their threads to manure. Oh and Kiki didn't write those comments about Taylor, sperg chan was her Mom!!1!! Her mom was jealous of Taylor because she got a Japanese bf!1!
Like seriously, this is their logic.
Of course not anon, Venus isn't mean! She's *~pure*~
Her and Mana don't even kiss uwu
No legit job. Also she has NO degree so she'll first need to go to uni to ever be able to find a job higher than waitress, kyabajou and so on. >>205535
As far as I understood she self studies it. Unless she's planning on doing n3 or even better n2 she won't really benefit from it, except for understanding her husband better.
To the one who asked about the ring thing (can't find your comment sry mobile internet is a snail)in Japan it's not very common to wear a ring when married. It's a western thing.
Also, how can people still defend her? She has been out of the claws of her psycho mom for nearly a year now and still all she does are super cringy, mediocre youtube videos with no real content. Like the quality of her videos didn't exactly went better.
If Venus isn't one you should go cry in other threads because we have a bunch of those non snowflakes, non cows here like Taylor/Claire and lola. You think she's sweet, I think she's cringey.
Venus is a kawaii super filtered, sweet corn toothed YouTuber with zero skills who can't do a proper makeup tutorial and got to marry Visa husbando and fulfill her weaboo dream and stays home stuffing her face/doing mukbang challenges and buying cheap Japan ugu kawaii crap. there's still plenty of lulz and keks she can give us.
>>205632>got to marry Visa husbando and fulfill her weaboo dream
That's kind of missing a part of the story though isn't it?>>205643> She'll be 20 next year and has not even a high school diploma.
You're talking as if that was her fault somehow.
>She doesn't have 'much time left'
Yes she does? In what world do you live for 20 to be late to decide what one wants to do? You must be either very young and arrogant or old and bitter.
Venus could easily get a part-time job and go from there, yes she's kind of fucked up regarding education and going to university is probably out of the question, but having no formal education is not such a big deal.
Yeah it's her fucking fault because she's been with Manaki for 1 year and hasn't done shit to get her HS diploma but wear onesies and cat ears, and of course not brushing her teeth.
You guys will reach to the moon to protect this weeb, ffs. These aren't even lies, just facts.
In Japan, anyone can take the high school equivalence test (koukou-sotsugyou-nintei-shiken) and if you pass, that will be equavalent to a high school diploma.
Anyone can also attend part-time high schools (teiji-sei-koukou) to study and enjoy school life and hopefully graduate in 3 or 4 years.
You can find more details in the Japan-guide site.
Venus hasn't done anything because she probably doesn't care much about her education tbh. She just wants to speak better Japanese to communicate better with her husbando and watch anime
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More info just to prove getting a HS diploma is possible
this anon >>205659
seemeed to think it was impossible for poor venus to finish her education in japan. i was just pointing out that no, it isn't.
if she wants to stay forever without a hs diploma or not that is a totally different thing.>>205680
Agreed. Just give it a few more years and her skin is going to sag just like margot's kek.
Dude a HS diploma in Japan implies mathematics, biology, Japanese proficiency she probably doesn't have, and also the ability to read classic Japanese for literature and such, and she never studied all of this that much. She'd probably pass English and nothing else if she tried. Even if she wanted to she wouldn't be able to self-learn so much in only one year. Not to mention her first year in Japan hasn't been particularly peaceful until recently.
Also we don't know for sure what she's doing or not. She had a lot of books about Japanese grammar and other things in a recent video, don't know how much of that is actually being used but at least it might be a sign she's trying.>>205651
I agree she could have gotten a job by now but if youtube is getting her enough money there's no urgency. I'll say it again, 20 is not old at all. And youtube-famous people having never worked because they got successful before graduating HS/uni is far from uncommon. Also she has worked before, doing modelling. I doubt she has a career in that though.
There are international schools in Japan that teach in English (I think there are Korean ones and Chinese ones too), so she could go to one of those, but it would mean she'd probably have to save up money to be able to attend.
It is possible to study for 3 years and do the JLPT 1 (which is grammar even Japanese people don't know + kanji), so if she tried there's no saying she couldn't do it. It would just take a lot of studying and willpower.
I feel it will be interesting to see though.
Typically a school year starts in April, so hopefully we'll see some updates on if she's going to finish high school then.
As for a job, she already had a modelling thing on instagram right? Maybe she is doing some modeling, or she is working on the side. I mean in the video she asked if Mana was practicing dancing when she wasn't home, but that might just be because she's away filming, or she's still in language school. We don't really know anything about her life other than what she posts.
sage because just speculations.
I did wonder about this, I wonder if she does sit there all day secretly bashing other Youtubers.
I also wonder if she is controlling of Manaki, is he allowed to talk to other girls?
It'd all make sense because her childhood would've left her feeling incredibly insecure, but it's still no good and I bet she does stuff like this.
Oh yeah I didn't think of international schools. But I wonder if she'd be able to attend classes meant for high school students, some schools don't accept students after a certain age. In any case if such schools offer to try to get a HS diploma she could go for that.
She's probably N4 or N3 level right now, I'm kinda hoping she'll try to get N3 or N2 soon.>>205703>I also wonder if she is controlling of Manaki, is he allowed to talk to other girls?
If a girl over 5 years younger than him can tell him what to do then I'd feel sorry for him, kek.
When we say she should get a job or classes, it's not only for the money, she literally has nothing to do at home, only low quality videos that take a few hours to record and edit and doesn't even try to improve her content, it is crap. She could also attend some kind of lessons like piano, koto, ikebana, origami, painting, sports, yoga.. there are many things to do.
Also Venus has been showing N2 books on her shelf for years, if she studied as much as she says, she would have passed N2 level a long time ago.
Almost a year and no job, no courses, no school, no friends, only Manaki and a gross lifestyle.
Be honest, do you really think Venus wants to complete her education? No, she's fine with being a kawaii waifu and having a YouTube "job". It's been a year, that's time enough to do more, at least a little, even as a friendless shy person.
Not saying she should
worry about her intellect – everyone has different priorities, but it's just fucking sad that education doesn't seem one of hers.
In the end no one really knows shit about Manaki but the fact he was way older than her when he developed a crush on teeny weeny weeby Venus and found a way to save her for momster and marry her.
If you stop to think about it, this situation isn't good. It's quite creepy that she seems so dependent on him. Anyone who's ever had at least one serious relationship that came to an end knows you shouldn't rely 100% on your SO for money, etc.
When the kawaii princess persona finally wears off, who can guarantee he won't dump her? Is YouTube such a reliable source of income that she doesn't need a diploma, especially when she's a foreigner in a distant country?
What are you talking about the "boobs and butts" weird caption she made?
Saying she was being mad/jealous is a complete stretch, the sentence made no sense. To me it seemed more like Manaki was telling her to go out and find girl friends.
Yep. It took me 3 years to be able to work when I left my very toxic mother. I was younger (17), so maybe it will take less time for her ? Anyway, I don't see her working soon. It's already a good thing she makes videos (even if it's not really good).
sage for blog post
>>205763>Yep. It took me 3 years to be able to work when I left my very toxic mother. I was younger (17)
anon here >>205449
, you were totally right!
>I'm sure many of those anons are fucking self inserting (boohoo, I live/d a fucked up/lonely/shitty life! Oh but Venus broke free and now she's living life with her asian husbando ^-^ oh yay there's still hope for meee too! go Venus, go~)
You don't need any English skills for a job in Japan, the English requirements are pretty low. She might have to take a English language test to be able to prove she knows English though (a lot of Japanese people do and they pass even when their English isn't very good).
She could easily get a job in a restaurant as a waiter, her Japanese skills are good enough for that, and speaking 3+? languages would be good in Tokyo if there's a lot of tourists.
Self insert is really the only explanation if you stop to think about it. That would explain perfectly why people who were hating on weenoos before now don't wanna read anything bad about their ~princess~>>205763
shows exactly what some other anon said about mommy issues.
>Misfit/NEET/Mommy issues anons>Feel shitty>see another Misfit/NEET/mommy issues weeb succeed and get husband visa>Weeb is going to live happily ever after away from bad mommy>Self insert>"y'all angry anons have to understand it's not Venus' fault that she has yellow teeth/don't want to study/still makes shitty videos/sits on her ass all day!!1">"Its her moms fault!1">"Don't be too harsh on Venus, she's had a bad life!1 you don't know how bad it's like to live with a monster uwu shut up!!1"
Also, just a reminder:
Not kissing Venus' ass =/= liking Margo
Reminds me of when there were so many self insert about parental issues when Kota first moved to Japan kek
When Dakota got a work visa:
Thank God Dakota ran away from her abusive parents!1! She is ashamed of her family!!1 (Dakota actually talks a lot about her family)
When Weenoos got a spouse visa:
She ran away because Margo was abusive!!1! Survivor!! She is making fun of Margo on instagram!1
Of course everyone here is going to think this video is the shit, kek.
>I don't know how it's like outside of Japan
When she literally lived in a bunch of countries lol. You really have no idea?
Is that orange thing eyeshadow or contour? Kek.
Honestly Venus cute makeup is getting way out of hand. Girl needs to stop with the aging eye bags at least>>205820>>205823
Well, what does Venus have to do to stop being so adored and loved by self inserting meets? I mean, even if Venus popped up here and turned out to be sperg-chan 2.0 i think she'd get away with it. Lol
>>205822>I don't know how it's like outside of Japan
I swear sometimes she could be PT material.
Venus, you are not Japanese and actually Manaki is like 26, are you going to say Japanese men don't get married in their mid-twenties?
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Why was that granny licking a potato scene necessary? Ugh
Her sense of humor is kinda strange. >>205832
Yeah, the 'goal' for Japanese women is to be married before 30 (if they want to get married at least). So I'm assuming 25-35 is a normal age to be 'married'.
Young couples are normal too, like in any other country, some people get married at a very young age, her explanation was BS. >>205846
He is a creep, he always says and does weird things in front of cameras, he openly claimed he felt in love with her because of her ass. I felt so much secondhand embarrassment.
If those questions trigger
her so much then she should stop calling him bf
and just call him Manaki if it's too difficult for her to call her visa Husband
. This is her second video about it.
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She really does get offended by questions about sex or anything related to it. Her views on it are very immature & she talks about it like a child. I remember this meltdown she had while speaking of Manaki a few months back. I can only think he spoke about previous girlfriends or his past sexual experiences and it got her pissed.
The truth or dare one.
He does say it's a joke afterwards tho. Which was kinda obvious when he said it too.
Seeing the two of them fuck would be like seeing that dodgy daddy kink porn. Where the girl acts all baby like and whines as he's pounding into her. But Manaki aint exactly the 'daddy' type is he?
If he didnt have a cock you would just think he was some pubescent Japanese girl with short hair.
Mate I dont even think manaki has had sex tbh
I think the pair of them were virgins when they met
Youre just speculating, >>205870
because he looks like a social inept walking visa.>>205863
looks like the real answer to this matter. She's clearly upset, which is understandable since she obviously has issues when it comes to sex, but sad because it shows she lacks maturity.
Honestly felt the same way when I first heard about them getting together. The biggest thing was the fact he was a fan of hers originally years prior. And it worried me that she was jumping from one codependency relationship to another one.
But, really, I do think he loves her and cares about her. They're only 4-5 years apart really, which isn't that big of an age gap.
Venus is just very inexperienced in relationships, and theirs is definitely not normal so its odd for people who are used to "normal" relationships to see a married couple not being comfortable calling each other husband and wife despite being married for a year now.
i really don't see it as creepy, is that weird? plenty of relationships have age gaps and as long as they got serious when they where both legally adults it's not too bad. he's only 6 years older right? lots of 18 year olds hang out with older people or hang out with their cousins friends when they visit.
maybe im a bit bias though because he just seems so innocent. he seems very polite and respects venus and they seem more like 8th graders than adults. if you look at his instagram he just seems sweet and still young, it's not like he's a 30 year old japanese jobless neet shut in going for his waifu.
idk, i guess just the way a person acts can make me decide wether it's creepy or not. a sleazy way older man who can't get girls his own age so purposely targets naive young girls is a big nono to me but honestly, he just seems like another young 20 something year old working a job and being respectable.
maybe it's because venus tries to pull of this whole pure persona which makes Manaki seem the same way. he also looks young and has a baby face, but maybe looks can be deceiving.
Taylor, Claire and Lola good! Venus bad!
Are you the same person doing this?
No one cares about her sex life anon, is the way she acts, the things she says, the fact that she had to made a new video about it, it triggers
her and that's funny. >>205902>because he just seems so innocent.
I LOL'd with this one. Innocent?
He makes half jokes because he knows how fucked up is their story.
He is a creep. The age gap right now is not gross, but it was when everything started, even Venus called him stalker.
Conspiracy chan, those are different anons, The Claire&Lola and Taylor examples are used by many anons.
>Taylor, Claire and Lola good! Venus bad!
No one said such a childish thing.
Still butthurt because Venus is in snow again? >>205930
is right. I'm one of the anons who mentioned them, but I wasn't the only.
Thats not very surprising. Some anons are still triggered
cuz she is out of snow. That's pretty sad though. Does Venus matter so much in your life you have to white knight in totally unrelated threads? You have Margo thread all for yourself, no one even says a ~mean~ thing about Venus there anymore to avoid triggering
seriously, anon. kek. thank you for the kek.
Anon, Margo thread is in /pt/.
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Here anon, take your innocent and pure sweet angel with no interest in sex (righht) who was raised by a satanist who turns out to be a fanatical catholic and the rest of your theories to Margo thread.
KEK @ you & your raging Venus hateboner, especially since you're obviously the same nut(s) who tried to get the 'let's all jack off to the Venus hate' train going in Margo's thread and were politely told to fuck off so you ran over here to get it going. You're looking every bit as obsessive and rage-filled as margo on one of her psycho rants.
Sure, Venus is weird and makes cringey videos, so what? Has she scammed or cheated or stolen from anyone? Come to your house and personally hurt you? There must be a happy medium between mindlessly worshipping her at one extreme and raging obsessive hatred at the other. There's plenty to snark about here without sperging like a psycho. Seek help, rage-chan(s).
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and just to trigger
you further, here she is on Snapchat, still not giving a fuck about you or any of your lil hateboner buddies
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>>205706>>205734>she literally has nothing to do at home, only low quality videos>She just sits on her ass all day and makes crap videos
Lol, you don't know shit about what she does all day other than what she chooses to share on SM, which is next to nothing.
Guess you missed this on instagram stories recently tho, about a photoshoot she had..
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Something else for y'all to choke on, besides your own bile..
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bwahahaha suck it salty bitches
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you know extremists on either side are equally embarrassing. you're not helping the situation at all.
How do YOU know that, hmmmm?>>205937
Lol. Dude, I barely started posting in this thread and haven't yet clashed with anyone. Peace.>>206063
We definitely do not know what she does, where she goes or who she talks to in her spare time. It sure would be cool if she shared some hobbies or regular daytime activity, though. But maybe she doesn't want to alienate her young, goofball fans with not-so-cute interests?
I didn't know Venus generated so much fervor!
Read >>205937 >>206078
Read >>205959>You have Margo thread all for yourself, no one even says a ~mean~ thing about Venus there anymore to avoid triggering you people.
>>206051>Venus is weird and makes cringey videos, so what?
We can say the same thing about most of the flakes.
Did you finish attacking anons here?
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fangelic-chan's face while proving the haterzzz wrong ^ BWAHAHA
what an embarassing samefag. these posts are very immature, i hope you get your ass banned. you're obviously not over 18. if you are, im sure you make your parents very proud of you with your nut sized brain>>206066>>206065>>206064>>206063>>206056>>206051
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from the same video.
just thought it was interesting to see how venus is so loved and cherished that the people criticizing her in this thread must be completely insane. she's obviously above any sort of hate. no one would dare ever say they dont like the shit the posts.
i mean, except for those 15000 people and counting
idk about the rest of this post but iirc there was already a venus thread in /snow/ at that point
my best guess is that you were the one who 'had enough and created a new thread. description wasn't the best, but it was something'
so what you mean is that you made a thread in /pt/ with a shit OP (/pt/ is only supposed to be for the cream of the crop, come on), probably failing to provide proper links or reasons why Venus should be criticized other than 'look at what a weeb she is!' and then got mad when they moved your thread to /b/ instead of having a shitty duplicate in /snow/.
if it was actually a big deal with as many users being upset about it as you claim, that's the reason we have /meta/; to facilitate discussion on topics like this between staff and userbase.it's not a big deal, but you felt personally slighted by staff because you wanted to keep bashing Venus in Margo's thread even though their association with one another has discontinued.>farmhand was banning users for derailing the thread with their super mean comments about her
that is pretty much the definition of derailing a thread, though. like, once Margo was revealed to be the kappa river monster, pretty much all of Venus's 'milk' was assumed to be a byproduct of their relationship and she's kept her lulziness to a minimum since then.
well, up until this 'ugly girl to cute girl' transformation video, anyways. the whole thing was pretty tasteless. i'm expecting to see some backlash from her fans because i'm sure that there's gonna be some 'i have cystic acne/yellow teeth/eyebags and this made me feel really bad about myself!!' tumblr-esque outburst about it.
>>205353>routine dental cleanings
I actually have to wonder about this, because they moved around so much. I know in the UK there's free health care, but does it cover dental as well? And how would you integrate into that system if you were there illegally? Venus & Margo never seemed like they were rich
, but they did seem like they spent their money on a bunch of unnecessary weeb/video shit instead of prioritizing things like education or having a nice place to live. I know in the US, professional cleanings are about $100 a pop without dental coverage, so a lot of poor people put them off as 'unnecessary' until there's a problem.
then again, idk what Venus was making from Youtube monthly. they probably weren't 'poor' straight-up, but if Margo was holding the purse strings, I can definitely see her spending that money on travel expenses, on herself, or on overpriced cutesy shit for Venus's 'career'.
>>206150>pretty much all of Venus's 'milk' was assumed to be a byproduct of their relationship and she's kept her lulziness to a minimum since then.
so? drier snowflakes have threads, that was discussed a bunch of times already by multiple anons so i'm not going going back to explain why you or other anons saying Venus isn't that milky doesn't matter.
also, >>205959>You have Margo thread all for yourself, no one even says a ~mean~ thing about Venus there anymore to avoid triggering you people.
If some fangelics are getting so triggered
by the super ~mean~ comments made here, please hide the fucking thread,
Venus is still brought up in Margo's all the time where people don't say anything negative about her anymore.
Stay there if this thread bothers you so much.
Most people here don't love venus. But she's not much of a cow, and it's certain now that most of the cringy milk before she ran away was Margo's and not hers. She's clearly not the worst weeb, she's a not a tumblr-tard. I'd say having a mother like the kappa river monster makes her look like a normal likable person.
I guess both her hardcore fans and haters here look stupid and pull-tard tier.
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even IF that was true, it wouldn't matter anymore.
she's been living with Manaki for 1 year. Isnt it enough time to take care of your dental health now that your evil mom isn't stopping you from seeing a professional? kek
Buy some strawberry toothpaste, a cute toothbrush and go to the dentist, ffs.
it's not about whether Venus herself has dried up at this point, it's about whether it's appropriate to discuss a low-activity snowflake in a cow's thread after their association has basically been terminated, or whether you should save your ire for the threads that are specifically
designated for the person that you want to criticize.
Sage because, like I mentioned, if you really are that bothered about it, you should make a post in the General Complaints/Issues thread in /meta/, instead of here.
saying good things about venus is fine here, this is her thread after all. the problem is that we have cunty anons here who can't read anything remotely bad about her without flipping out and shitting up the thread with "bwahaha saltyyy bitches venus is on instaa not caring bouchuuu"
Maybe if that crazy fangelic gets banned we can have some sort of peace here between anons who like her and who dont like her that much.
Professional cleanings and even whitening toothpastes actually don't remove surface stains overnight, esp. if your oral hygiene has been neglected for an extended period. her best bet would be to have whitening treatments done, but those can get pricy. the site i looked up quoted the 'professional' whitening service as about ~$200, but the price range went all the way up to ~$1,500 for 'perfect whitening'.
maybe she just doesn't think it's that bad, idk. most people don't have sparkling white news-anchor-style smiles anyways.
Btw of course Manaki was/is a Virgin when he met her.
He started to stalk her when he was already a 20 y/o man, since, in my view, he couldn't get same age meat at school and saw in Venus a girl who since was totally obsessed in Japanese crap and thought he could get away with fresher and totally-loving meat. Tbh I think that Manaki kinda tricked her in "Hai binasu Chan letusu meiku a promise desu, anata will live in Nihon to watashi demo you have to say that you daisuki me, okay?"
You're so sensitive. You can't even tell who you're responding to so you're just attacking anyone who is remotely positive. You really look nutty. (I'm not the spammer, btw)
Now go meditate at your altar of the Taylor-Claire-Lola Trinity and admire your lovely toothbrush collection, ya goof. >>206176
Venus certainly will need teeth bleaching or laser. The damage is done. If she can afford hair care and nail appointments, she can set aside ￥40000 for an in-office whitening. At home trays are a better option. She needs to lay off the black coffee and tea quite a bit, though.
Just a thought: Food stains and bulimia have been suggested, but is it possible Venus was on medication for an extended time during this year? This degree of staining is fairly recent, right?
kek, anon. venus teeth are rotting, but I think a dentist could save them. Luna on the other hand..
sage 'cause irrelevant lul
it would be hilarious if angry fangelic-chan anon sitting at home was posting from Japan, hmm…
sage because I'm just tinfoilhatting
Your reading comprehension is crap.
I wrote that summary but I'm not the anon who created this thread. It wasn't posted in /pt/, it was in /snow/ because farmhand told people to do so if they wanted to discuss Venus.
Anons posted her videos in Margo's thead so people discussed it there too but you all cried when it wasn't something good. Immediately and as expected, when a different anon made this thread, you all cried and it was moved to /b/,and you all cried in /b/ too and even lied twice about anons bumping
it last week. "She has a new thread" kek
Get your facts straight.
This person also insists that we hate Taylor and believes we all are Kiki. lol
I don't know why she isn't banned yet for her absurd amount of shitposting, derailing, lying, chimping out, all her tinfoil hat theories and constant attacks. >>206175
You can say good things about your favorite weeb, that's not the problem, fangelics are just attacking people and doing the same old, that's why some people are being a bit paranoid, forgive them.
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This was like the time Kota followed kittyphina kek!
I'm totally healthy and definitely not lurking ana accounts
What the fuck is your problem? You're wasting your own time you massive hypocrite. Are you seriously saying every snowflake here has scammed, cheated, or physically hurt someone to get here?
People get here because they're cringey fucking weeaboos. Suck it.
But wait, didn't fangelics just rage post stats about her youtube views and subscribers so doesn't she have oodles of money for shit now what with her doing ~professional~ shoots?
Lol, there's just no consistency!
No, it's because she is a dumb bitch. Her visa knows it: >>205380>>205379>>205378>>206269
Suck it like Weenoos >>205834
I'm not the one acting like an angry spastic on an anonymous forum because someone doesn't share her big lesbian hatecrush for Venus Palermo>>206272
You could use one too
considering that you never mentioned which board it was created on in >>205337
, let's just chalk it up to 'I'm not a psychic'.
If you're not the OP of this thread, it's even weirder that you're so outraged by the fact that it got moved temporarily to /b/. I mean, I'm only catching up now, but I'm seriously surprised it didn't end up in /manure/, since the OP straight-up does not meet the quality level that is expected for /snow/ or /pt/. It's not even that people 'cried' whenever anything even slightly critical was said about her, but when the content within the thread has literally devolved into shit like: 'omg guys look she's eating a burger from mcdonalds how unhealthy'–that's not milk, or snowflake-y, that's not even lulzy. It was at the point where the nitpicking in the thread was cringier than the individual actually being discussed, so I can see why someone might be like, 'this is a shit thread, let's move it'–as was requested in /meta/ by more than a few different users. just check out 3311 in Gen. Complaints, and how many people responded in agreement. It's the Berry Tsukasa situation all over again. If Venus wasn't such a long-term cow, you probably wouldn't have this thread at all.
So what are you complaining about, exactly? If you're mad that the thread got moved because 'you all cried about it', well, >>205337
sounds a lot like a tantrum to me. And you got it back where you wanted it in the end, so your theory about biased farmhands 'protecting Weenoos' doesn't hold much water, either. Or are you just upset that whenever you post something like 'ugh Weenoos is such a dumb bitch she looks like an old woman and her teeth are disgusting' you actually face contention instead of the chorus of parrots 'kek'-ing at your savagery and wit that you were hoping for?
I don't know, but she's all about the money. Her videos are worse than ever and she cares more about the views than her actual content and reputation, look >>206131
Don't blame the audience, I believe all audiences deserve quality and not only selfish shit, bad make-up tutorials and drama.
Can you fucks stop arguing? Let it go. Let's get back to talking about her content instead of keeping this stupid drama alive. God knows I like to argue, but it's been over a day.
Sage because irrelevant.
Ikr? Real kawaii stuff not that crap she thinks is kawaii. She's not going to change her style soon, though.
One of her best recent videos is the purikura machine one. I thought it was really refreshing to see her outside doing something that her audience would actually enjoy doing too if they had a chance to be in Tokyo. It was fun and I'm sure she enjoyed herself doing that too (a lot better than eating a giant pudding on camera uhh)
All the makeup videos were bad. She was never good at it but her skills have really gone downhill lately.
Hopefully she's gonna do more videos outside soon.
Like a vlogger? That's ok as long as she doesn't make another childish joke
like in her Pikachu video.
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>>206306>childish>"Meanwhile, Mana wants to poop but weenoos got her head stuck in the toilet"
man, I think she just sticks to ott pastel kawaii because that's what her whole gimmick started with and she doesn't know where to go next. you can tell that she's branched out since she was a kid, but her fame peaked when she was essentially loli/virginal fetishist fap material. Now she's older, she's married, and she's less relatable to both her young female weeb audience and also the old creepy Mr. Yan market. the smart thing to do would be try to work her videos into a niche that would appeal to other housewives, or at the very least, a weeb audience closer in age to herself.
>>206310>she's married, and she's less relatable to both her young female weeb audience>try to work her videos into a niche that would appeal to other housewives
I think the idea of appealing to other housewives is really good, but I don't think she'd be taken seriously unless she went through a major transformation. If she decides to go for a qt housewife persona she may be successful, but not a weeby housewife.
She should start with a house tour.
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Looove all the tantrums. So triggered
. So cute.
Laughing SO HARD.
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Here, try some of this, babies…
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Weeb is back in snow where she belongs, fangelics are triggered
, forgive them.
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My hateboner for WEENOOS will not be thwarted. YOU CAN'T STOP MEEE
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Weenoos is ugly
Weenoos is ugly
WEENOOS IS UGLY
fap fap fap
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I've always liked her eyes. She has some makeup tutorials without circle lenses that I like, (there's nothing wrong with circle lenses but I'm not really into the whole cutesy thing) but I think she should work harder in her foundation and concealer routine, it is shit.
Does she edit her skin or is naturally or is it naturally like that?
But she doesn't look cute when she acts childish, she's just cringey. Sometimes she talks about topics that kids can't really understand and that triggers
some people, she should better change her style and content, she is already half way. She can still be cute and talk about kawaii culture related stuff, though
She has a nice wide eye shape but remember guys she doesnt actually look like this really. She always takes pictures from a downwards angle and looks average at best but than again so do most people when they're not in selfies.
It loos shit because kawaii fashion is literally just pounding on any old crappy colour, circle lenses and just calling it cute because brands, certain colours and the trend. Venus doesnt even have a specific style anymore… its just random cute shit thrown together. It was the same with Dakota at the beginning there was no lead? Just "its a doll style" and anything will do but she had that school girl bow thing going on at the time so maybe that was a bit of her persona niche. But Venus never really had any apart from doing tons of different things. Its good she's exploring but I can't wait till she just sticks to one style and it suits her properly.
Isn't that Yuka's thing ? heh.. " I'ma pee on you onichan " >>206878
AH ! right, I forgot she likes cooking. I don't really see cooking as a "house wife" thing only thought. I was thinking of shit videos of her teaching you how to clean. ( though if she made a video : how to clean up after a river kapa. I'd totally watch )
True. She is like lost and her new videos are like super random and disorganized.>>206869
yeah maybe you're right but, would you do that if you had a big audience? Ok, I need money… I'm going to drink tabasco, they watch it anyway
>>206864>Venus doesnt even have a specific style anymore… its just random cute shit thrown together.
You're right, anon. The ugu kawaii living doll died a long time ago.
Also I wish she'd change her hair, she always has suuuuper long hair (I know, i know, extensions) and I'd like to see her with a different hairstyle, like shorter hair. Or just without bangs. I personally think she looks better without them. She looks cute but her age.
Her eyes look prettier without circle lenses but i don't think she's going to drop them anytime soon, unfortunately.
besides walking around the city she hasn't shown any new ideas iirc. it's the same binge eating crap, horrible makeup, manaki uguu. rinse and repeat endlessly.
I think we all understand the message behind her video but it was really poorly executed and the title made it confusing. ughh, cringe.
I agree with >>207002
I think Venus has become super lazy and doesn't truly care that much about her content anymore. she has fangelics who won't leave her and ~love~ everything she does, and while i think she enjoys making videos for fun, she doesn't seem that worried about delivering her best anymore.
First I thought it was funny, but now I realize it was a super bad idea, she is literally chewing a bouillon cube. Fail
>she doesn't seem that worried about delivering her best anymore.
Maybe it's because she already achieved what she wanted.
She said in My strange addiction that her life goal was
"to live in Japan and be as famous as Britney Spears"
Well, she got her visa. (But not Weenoos Spears yet, though)
She makes comments like this:Oct 20, 2016 I hope you like seeing Japan trough a more vlog-y lens, because there are so many places I want you to take, and so many cool things I want to show you about Japan! Not just busy places like Akihabara and Harajuku, but maybe things you wouldn't find in every travel guide, hehe!
and people get all excited and WOO HOO VENUS!!
then it's back to business as usual on the floor in front of the kawaii white loveseat. I don't hate the girl but it's just so frustrating. So much she could do with that channel and the following she has now that she's free and living in Japan but she doesn't do shit, plus she gets people's hopes up REPEATEDLY and doesn't deliver. MEH.
Would you say her channel was better under Margo's ideas and supervision? As if her mom made Venus do her best and edit to her standards.
I don't like Margo but I feel like Venus doesn't have anyone's expectations to live up to now so she just dicks around. I think she needs to work harder than ever as soon as possible, because she isn't gonna be kawaii forever.
Venus get your nails done or remove at least the last few fake nails, it looks so bad!
But beside that, befriend taylor was def a good thing and I hope tay will have some good impact on her.
More people liked Sharla, but I think that Mira was definitely the less popular of the two because even before we knew the extent of it, Mira was a jerk.
I don't really foresee that for Tay with anyone because she's really chill and kind of a get-along-girl.
As for Taylor and Venus, I think they are cute af. When they are together they seem to exist in their own kawaii bubble of silliness. It's adorable. Agree on the big sis/little sis.
yeah, seriously. When one comes off, the rest have too as well. She gets nice designs but when she jusy let's them all fall off naturally it's nother a good look.
The vlog was so adorable though.
woah the stark contrast between maggot's era videos and now>>207934
I don't either at all,but at least Venoos finally got a sane female friend in her life (aside aunt Zsu).
Ah yes Venus who has had not an ounce of drama (other than her mom) since she left her mom. SO much drama.
The only possible drama is if Margo tries attacking Taylor or something in which case Taylor's an adult who can handle that shit (and her company would probably shut that down)
Thats kinda what I meant anon but it still could happen anyway. Venus isn't all that innocent and its depressing how many people lick her ass. She's boring and tacky Taylor is slightly glamorous despite being loaded, has somewhat of a style sense and modelling career.
I can't believe people are envious of the pair of them. They're okay but Im not going to sit here and coo at how wonderful they are because I dont think they are.
All I'm saying is that it wouldn't surprise me if she happens in the next following year or so. It always does, its the Jvlogging group guys. Someone always stirs something up.
>>207907>so pure pure
like this? >>206020
it was only a regular day at Disney. They had fun together and it was cool but I don't see how is 2 adults having fun at Disney is something pure
.. cringe.>>207933>Lol nah drama will go down if it involves Venus
If she refuses to change.
>People were keen about Sharla and she turned out a mess.
Actually PULL used to love her when she bashed Mira, but that talked a lot about Sharla and Rachel too, and that only caused more drama. Now they have a thread too.
People who have the urge to tell their problems to the world (FB, YT, Twitter) and make excuses to do so instead of trying to solve them in private are exposing themselves to all kinds of criticism and must accept they could be making it worse.
Melodee and Kim problem is a good example of this; Kim and Sunny were shit talking Melodee in public, but Melodee was smarter and contacted them in private to solve the problem no matter if they were trying to ruin her image.
That's how you avoid drama.
That's how you act smart.
She didn't make excuses to attack them online too.
Hope Venus, Margo, Mira, Sharla, Kim and Rachel learn to keep their shit private and avoid drama.
My thoughts exactly.
Boring and cringey.
I'm tired of Jvloggers dramu, Venus dramu and Taylor trying hard to clean her image (yes, that's basically what she is trying to do for her) while Venus just sits in the loveseat to eat crap and make her husband join her cringey shit too. Venus and anons that keep praising her for literally doing nothing and treating her like a rescued puppy make me cringe.
Anon said Cringey not weird
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Kind of OT, but I downloaded a game on Steam and it said this. I wonder if it was a jab at Venus because I don't know any other "living dolls" who ate on camera.
Dramu will still happen anon with either one or the other
like it or leave it
Weebs in Japan cause shit no matter how darling they appear
I want to like the video but ughhh… Yeah, I agree with >>207972
It's fucking boring and cringey. too bad.
But maybe I'm just tired of Jvloggers dramu too. (And their deformed eye bags and crazy circle lenses)
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>>207959>the school uniform thing is so cringey!
So cringey and it's far from the only cringey Japanese pop culture trend. Pic attached is one Japanese girl group, AKB48.
They're all in their 20s, dressed up like 5-year-olds at a pedo beauty pageant. SO fucking creepy and that shit is HUGE over there. ewwww
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Venus dropped an f-bomb. Lol
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looks like that kittirain wannabe is copying Venus. first a nerunerunerune video, now a truth or dare video. she even has someone else in there. maybe a sister?
Is this the new weeb trend? copy the Living Doll Veenoos to try and achieve her kawaii weeb dreams!
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Manaki dropped one too, hahaha
she looks very classy>>208089
Venus copied her videos from others too. She didn't create youtube.
Agreed, anon. So would I. Maybe most people will grow out of it like (most ex) weebs my age. I remember thinking kawaii desu shit was the bomb 10-12 years ago when I was in my early teens. I can't understand people who don't grow out of it. and before someone says "it's just my taste; it matches my personality", etc … No one ever said you couldn't have a shit taste/personality
Repost Sage for ot
I hate dd/lg and I consider myself a puritan but for slim young women, I think nanchatte is really cute. Maybe I spend too much time on /cgl/ and looking at jfashion. I think it is cute to wear for occasions like going to disney world with your friend? It's a uniform but to me it doesnt look school-girl or little-girl-ish because those kinds of outfits have always been popular in mainstream japan fashion. Disclaimer, I don't wear jfashion myself, I find my demeanour is "too old" for it, but for someone like Venus or the other girl it looks cute? Especially since Venus' entire shtick is "I hop on all Japanese trends!"
It's such manufactured outrage tbh. There is so much more important blatant pedo shit to rage over, dont understand why people breathe fire over innocuous shit like this, but let other stuff fly.
well yeah. plus seifuku stuff has leaked into real fashion in japan and most of asia, with the sailor-type collars and pleated skirts and jumperskirts… its stupid, like saying Lolita (which is a victorian-inspired fashion, not pedo stuff) is pedophilia. its not… its intricate fashion that looks nothing like little girl stuff
its funny because you have western girls going around wearing tiny tiny croptops saying "i have no tits" and necklaces saying daddy and other shit and they look far more sketchy than anything ive seen in japan
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>>208173>How does this look like 5 year olds at a beauty pagent? You're "projecting" they look like grown women
1. those thighs do not come on women underaged those are fully developed women. they have some big ass thighs
2. they are wearing outfits with a-line skirts? so? a-line skirts are super popular in japan and considered classy. and the socks, idk, youre reading too much into the socks. i wear socks like that on a daily basis and im in my 20s too.
ive never seen a little girl dressed like that to be honest. ive seen a lot of anime characters dressed like that though.
Ugh you can do this all day. Nanchatte seifuku IS cringey af no matter how popular it was in 2010, people already moved on. She was wearing the whole outfit not only the skirt or socks. >>208227
That's actually slutty, who do you think is the main audience? pure
girls ? KEK you are so naive.
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You think grown women dressing up like this isn't creepy or cringey or pervy as fuck? Lol.
And comparing this to Americans like miley cyrus etc. is irrelevant. Yeah they're trashy and slutty but at least they're owning it, not pretending to be cutesy little girls. This shit makes my skin crawl.
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Nanchatte might be a dead trend, but you commonly see big groups of teens and young adults visiting Tokyo Disney in uniform styles. It's just a popular Disney look. Picture related
I think Venus looked adorable. It's a theme park after all. People want to look cute and take photos with cute characters. This is different from just wearing a school uniform as your normal everyday style
im not even a weeb like most people on this site but i think that in the US when girls dress like underaged sluts… theyre sexualizing young girls. all of that daddy shit and the crop tops with suggestive phrases like "babygirl" or "im flat chested xD" from dollskill are SO fucking creepy. the western world has adopted this disgusting "prostitot" style.
whereas in japan and other countries yes, sometimes 20-year old girls will dress youthful like the pics posted itt. but they aren't sexualizing youth? they arent even trying to suggest they are young/underaged… theyre just wearing cute fashion and being OTT girly. nothing about it is sexual.
if you think it is sexual to dress like this: >>208247
>>208244 THAT is projection and THAT is indicative of something wrong with you. maybe americans are just obsessed with sexualizing children and thats why they thing a woman wearing an ornamental, modest-looking, poofy princess dress (that children dont even wear these days??? have you been outside???) is sexual. maybe thats indicative of the way you think about children. if you look at those girls and see "sexy" rather than just "oh, she's being cute and princesslike" you're the sick one, not them.
its the difference between a girl having disney princess figures and pillows and decorations all over her apartment and owning a disney princess vibrator and using it during sex
one is just someone who is attracted to the aesthetic because they have tacky taste or just never outgrew their tastes (and i mean, taste is like a butthole everyone has a different one)
the other one is like… overtly sexualizing childish things. that's what pedophilia is. not simply just enjoying the same things kids do?
You are talking to her stans, don't waste your time with them.. >>208255>I was coincidentally there the same day
>>208264>Cute things aren't gross or pervy facepalm
Annoying af. I couldn't care less about nanchatte seifuku, I don't care if it's a trend or not.
This is not an American VS Japanese style discussion, Focus on Weenoos.
No, both you are ignorant as fuck and projecting your warped Western ideals about sexuality and childhood so hard. Somebody doesn't have to be a Venus stan to tell you that you two(?) are wrong.
And YES. It is a common, fun way to dress up at Tokyo Disneyland. You know what else is popular? Pairs or groups of girls in coordinated, head-to-toe Disney character outfits. Are these girls also indulging perverts because of their childish styling? Do kigurumi also freak you out?
The Sad Story of Emmeline Burns
I downloaded it out of boredom waiting for the next sales.
It only had that one reference though, so I still do wonder if it was about Venus…
Do you want to slap someone in the name of Venus anon?
Isn't it the same as going around in cosplay? She looked a lot like she was wearing a Love Live costume.
I'm not seeing the point of this whole argument.
Yeah, she was a member of the old pull. Idk about her age, she did look like she was in her late 20's/early 30's though.
I remember she tried to become an idol and would use pull to promote her dance videos.
What's ok to wear at stage then? nun clothes? burqas?
In Tay's video even the female performers wore super short puffy skirts in front of an underage audience. >Oh no those sluts are corrupting the kids!!1!
sage for taking the bait
If she was wearing this in another country, f.ex. in Europe it would be cringey, but the location is fine for that outfit.
Japanese fashion in general is a lot more cutesy than western fashion. They also have a lot of different styles. But cosplaying in public is always weird as fuck unless you're actually at a con or it's Halloween.
Yes it does sound like she is talking about Venus.
>One of those eccentric, Self-proclaimed living dolls who get thousands of subscribers for eating food on camera.
That description = Venus
>>208371>when I see people dressed in kiddies clothing.. I don't instantly think "sex". I instantly think "retard" and then I move on with my day
kek same. Japan is no different, people just won't say it out loud.
>I sorta expected better, like a tour or reviews on rides and food.. All we got was cluster fuck of random shit.
I forwarded around and assumed she was saving content for another video. If not, what a waste.
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A lot of people in the comments are like wtf?
More like HALF joking. They always make jokes
, like the time he said he fell in love with her ass or the time Venus herself called him stalker.
>But I seriously hope we don't end up down the road having a "Kawaii sex tape" leak..
"1 night in Venus"
I feel like this is normal couple joking but just comes off bad because she's "famous"
…or maybe I have misconceptions
like this picture, for example. the plushies, the creepy husband's joke, the V. idk. It just makes me sad even though she's smiling.
sage for samefag
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Manaki IS a creep. Why does he always have the urge to make sex jokes? She is dressing like a 12 years old girl and is lying in that cringey bed, why would you do that joke?
Seriously, this is the Venus Angelic starter pack.
I agree that he's pretty creepy, but most people just think he's cute… WHY I will never understand. He's an adult man who married his favourite YouTuber and he was obssessed with her. Now she doesn't have any family members in Japan and basically doesn't have anyone she can truly count on (forget about Taylor and their busissness madeup youtube friendship that will probably collapse soon). It's just Manaki. How is that not worrisome?
I know the age gap isn't as bad as before now, but ugh.
Nasty "hentai camera man mwahaha!!1"
That's kind of what's sad about Venus, she doesn't have friends that aren't using her.
If shit hits the fan and associating with her becomes truly problematic
, they'd drop her quick and then all she has is Manaki.
i think me and my bf made the same joke that manaki did once….
really very concerned, are all these anons underaged? chill guys…
True. And tbh marriages usually don't last forever anymore, which makes things ever sadder.>>209280
Did your boyfriend stalk you when you were a minor and then made those jokes to the entire internet while you were sitting on a bunch of kids plushies? kek. You can't compare your situation to Venus' on this one. There's a specific context to their situation and why his creepiness is being brought up
Yes, but I'm not the one pretending to be an innocent living doll
. Her kawaii innocent online persona and sex jokes aren't a good combination. >>209236>everything surrounding venus seems fake as fuck to me. the worn out kawaii persona, the same old cute stuff, the over the top… everything.
Yeah, same opinion here…
Sorry, but I wasn't the anon who brought up fashion earlier today in the thread.
I stand by my opinion. Also, criticizing Venus or Manaki =/= agreeing with Margo
>>209284>True. And tbh marriages usually don't last forever anymore, which makes things ever sadder.
It's just a visa husbando for her anon, she can apply for a permanent resident visa after 3 years of stay. >>209302
You call "sperg" everyone.
sorry if you can't see anything wrong with him displaying his "hentai" persona to her preteen, mostly extremely young fanbase. lol guy is a fucking creep, accept it.
and stop calling everyone samefag and sperg chan, ffs. it's only going to start again the same fucking drama when the thread gets divided. accept that others anons have different opinions on venus and suck it up.
You got it totally wrong, no one thinks that way, more like:
SEX = Ok
Sexual attraction = Ok
Sex jokes = Ok
Childish shit + sex jokes = Not ok.
Adult stalking a teenager = Not ok.
Innocent online persona + swearing + sex jokes = BS
She is not coherent. >>209315
No, if you are the spouse of a Japanese national, an approval can be made after 3 years. Don't call me honey
>>209320 >dude this is 2016 not the 1800's, believe me kids as young as 6 nowadays already know what sex is.
Not the same anon but that was probably the lamest way to defend her ass, stop making excuses.
No, anon is not reaching.
What part of >accept that others anons have different opinions on venus and suck it up.
You didn't understand? >>209328
Lame af. Nowadays kids know what sex is anyway, so let's support anything this weeb says and does no matter if she contradicts herself
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okay anon explain us that big contradiction that upsets you this much
Stay paranoid. >>209342
We explained it several times. Your reading skills are crap.
stop being an a-hole. Margo is too dumb to English like that. It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but you're probably so butthurt you forgot about it:>accept that others anons have different opinions on venus and suck it up.
I'm a different anon, by the way. Sorry for ruining your Margo sperg-chan 2.0 dream
>>209348>We explained it several times>WE
Why aren't you speaking for yourself, Mormon-chan? >>209400
Lol. Your posts are distintive. And you quote yourself… ew. You're so repetitive and stubborn that you remind me of Mira. Heh, Mira, is that youuuuuuu?
I REALLY hope you are underage to be this warped. There's no damn way you are in a functional romantic relationship right now. Do you even ENJOY sex?
FYI: Mild sexual jokes with your partner completely normal, even when you have cute image! Manaki's jokes are so typical for 20-something Japanese males(and males elsewhere) anyway. That photo he took even resembles idol gravure. I wouldn't be sursprised if that's why he wrote the comment. >>209403
Are you autistic?
>>209403>The title has "Living doll" in it, therefore Wenoos is is still into the fad!!!1!one!
Lol you sure told me. That wasn't even a damn tutorial it's a fucking parody of her old persona. Sorry for not sharing the same hateboner pal. >>209478>Poor girl never really did know what "private" means as Margo put everything out there on the line.
Lol for how long more are you going to blame the nasty momster for everything Venus does nowadays?
When Venus does something shitty it's because of her mom. always.
Get a grip.
You people are so fucking retarded. I honestly think you can't understand it because you don't want to, most likely because deep down you agree too. It was explained seberal times it's not about sex itself, but the combo of Venus kawaii cutesy persona + Manaki's creepy behaviour and past + very young fanbase that make public sex jokes so gross
Why some anons here feel are tired of reading your excuses for literally everything Venus related.
I'm not >>209403
by the way. Just letting you know beforehand you fucking fangelic spergs scream samefag.
This whole post. Thanks.
>Lol for how long more are you going to blame the nasty momster for everything Venus does nowadays?
Kek this is the ultimate excuse, Venus is doing something stupid again? just blame it all on Margo.
>most likely because deep down you agree too
Truth hurts deep inside.
>Just letting you know beforehand you fucking fangelic spergs scream samefag.
Actually yes, they are the butthurt spergs always trying to derail the thread.
Fangelics = spergs, endless source of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, samefags.
I don't really see how this is creepy, it's not like he made an actual sex joke. As if anyone who's even vaguely familiar with Venus/the whole weeaboo thing doesn't know what hentai is.
Some of you overreact to hell and back.>>209247
I seriously can't tell whether it's one person going around threads calling anything vaguely cute/feminine "creepy" or "dd/lg", or if we have a sudden influx of obsessive weirdos.
You are stupid.
1. In fact, Mira defended Venus.
2. Not venus stans =/= same person.
3. You are fucking paranoid. >>209575>You know, it's not because you don't like something that it's gross.
What? That makes no sense.
Fucking READ. Anon said
>it's not about sex itself, but the combo of Venus kawaii cutesy persona + Manaki's creepy behaviour and past + very young fanbase that make public sex jokes so gross.
>One can be cute AND make sexual jokes.
No. That's a gross combo.
Manaki calling himself Hentai is not
"Refreshing", That's not new, people know he is a creep with a loli complex.
I don't recall saying everything was Margo's fault.. But things like "she's my pale virgin pure daughter" were not things I ever recall being on Venus' accounts. Those type of things are just embarrassing, especially for your own mother to put on display. I was just saying that somethings Venus probably wanted to be personal ( being a virgin if actually true ) didn't end up being personal because Margo used it as a selling gimmick for her daughter.
Most things I do find Venus is generally at fault for : Crappy videos,crappy picture,editing,persona,fashion,ED,Living doll crap… ect
But when it comes to odd topics like whether she does or doesn't have sex , being a asexual, being a cheater … Those are out there because she has a vile demented mother who is grossly obsessed with her own daughters sex life…
Except that she is not living with Margo anymore. Venus decided to expose those details, she is 20, stop blaming Margo for her own weird decisions. >>209588
I noticed that too she has very poor personal hygiene, her natural hair always looks greasy too.
Eh, not living with Margo doesn't make her at fault for what Margo says either. A tiny sex joke ( not even cracked by her ) doesn't equate to her putting it out there either. Face it, the whole reason people even discussed her sex life is because of the crap Margo claimed. I'll accept that we don't actually know if Venus was fine with it being put out there, but its out there, and didn't come from her mouth. I personally think they both could be at fault … Maybe Venus just rolled with it as "virgin/asexual" fitted the bill.
Her hygiene is very unfortunate … I don't know much about wigs, but how in the fuck do you get it to look that greasy ?
Actually people always related her content, behavior, pictures and style to sexual topics, that's why BOTH of them, Margo and Venus were typically overly defensive during interviews, Margo was always like, "it's just an innocent hobby", "oh she is so pure
because she never argues with haters", and Venus always responded things like "Ugh I'm not even 18 leave me alone~", "I naturally look like this" Venus seemed to be completely fine with the innocent living-doll persona tbh.
Anyway, both, Margo and Venus are overly-dramatic, sketchy, attention seekers that say a lot of weird shit they shouldn't.>>209614>how in the fuck do you get it to look that greasy ?
Manaki said she wipes her mouth with her bare hands. Maybe she doesn't wash her hands, her nails are a mess…
Oouf …. Oouf …
New question : Is she mentally stuck at 5 ? Sounds like she's got the tables manner of a child.
Do you really expect her to make an original video at this point? A year ago she said we should expect new and better content, but that was total BS. It's always the same lazy video editing and same old ideas recycled over and over, and she won't change because fangelics like every little shitty thing she posts. Venus is a cringe worthy bore and I've grown tired of watching her act like an animu character all the time yay yay \( ^o^ ) yayy.
Too bad because months ago I was really hopeful that her channel would get better. Hope is dead.
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Her sketchy tags kek
What the fuck is with her constantly tagging "music video" …
Can't you report people for improperly tagging videos ?
Anon who said >and here I thought the living doll thing died.
I saw that. Venus is a self-proclaimed living doll, she has a doll tag in all of her new videos, no one is forcing her, she has always been very proud of it. >>209686
Good question. I'm checking other videos and I can confirm she uses the tags doll
, music video
, how to
practically in all of her new videos.>>209699
I found a filthyfrank tag in her purikura video lol
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>>209714>Venus is a self-proclaimed living doll
Venus got some minor fame for being a living doll and was one of the major pioneers of the trend. so i wouldn't call her self-proclaimed, not when there are hoards of average Jane nobodies who have given the title to themselves.
nah, i watched the whole thing from the start. Dakota and Venus were the first living dolls who kicked everything off. Both of them were really just weeaboos who used Japanese/Korean makeup tricks for bigger eyes and shit and it made them look like dolls to some people.
Valeria was literally a kota-clone, her haters taunted her that Dakota was prettier than her so she started trying to look like her. she managed to get her own spin and surpass Koot's popularity because she's a far bigger attention whore and overall crazy. There was also Anastasia Shpagina. Anyone that comes after that, including the other Russians, are just wannabes who shamelessly tried to get in on the attention. some of them did it better than others and got their 15 minutes of fame. but they were still just wannabes. as far as i'm concerned those original 4 were the only "living dolls" who actually earned the title instead of purposely seeking it out.
I'm not talking about who copied who, we already know Valeria tried to copy Dakota,and Dakota was trying to look like Vlada Roslyakova and other models combined with kawaii
I'm talking about the Barbie image, Venus never had a Barbie
style, she was only a living doll
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I know she posted this a few days ago, but lol. How creepy is this? I wonder if Manaki really likes to take these kinds of pictures or if Venus makes him do that so they can be a kawaii couple on the internet. I remember back in the day when they started dating and he was super shy and lowkey.
He was probably goofing around and she snapped a photo of it. It's not that serious.
I'm sure anyone who begins dating a YouTuber is going to be shy at first when it comes to being on camera.
You didn't even directly address what I wrote. You're not operating with all your brain cells intact. You're writing MOST of those posts. I didn't say all of them. And your silence about how you're projecting your own sexual dysfunction onto Venus is telling.
Here's another thing: nerdy guys who take pictures of girls, especially cosplay and gravure, are called 変態カメラマン/ hentai cameraman in Japan, even if the pictures are not pornographic. It's slang and you can even Google the term to see Japanese joking about themselves and others for tame photos. Do you not understand the cultural significance of his joke? >>209826
It just looks like a dark joke.
I don't hate her (she seems to be nice I guess) and I don't care about her teeth/Manaki/sex jokes…blablabla…but I just can't stand her content anymore.
She could make pretty interesting videos about cooking (recipes/tips on a "cute-housewife-in-glorious-nihon" mode) or vlogs about lil trips around Tokyo, but no, she's stuck in front of that white couch with the same unoriginal and lazy contents.
I know some youtubers which work a lot on their video (original music, animations…) and they've far less subscribers than her.
Nowadays, dramas and stupid personas pay more than talent and I frankly find that unfair and sad (look at Gerg/Kooter…etc…etc)
And the thing that really gets on my nerves it's those who praise her as if she was a fucking genius (even here sometimes).
Sage for slightly OT and awful english (sorry guys I really need to improve but reading on lolcow helps a lot^^)
Same, anon. I recently unsubscribed. I felt kinda sad doing that because I like the past Venus and was a long time follower, but recently her content is boring, lazy and overly recycled. Just the thumbnails were making me cringe so hard. She never seems to progress or show any kind of improvement. Never.
the cluster fuck of people praising her for literally nothing adds to my growing disinterest for her.
Sage cuz blogish
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I agree with you guys but on the other hand Venus is someone who fled from her crazy abusive mother at the age of 19 and I think that deserve some credit.
Lots of adults can't flee from a spouse, let alone family (let alone her single parent, only family who isolated her!) and we still see how truly unhinged Margo turned out to be.
Seriously props to Venus for being so mature at 19, not engaging once with her mom, not making up drama for views or answering the fucking cruel stuff she's been sent by her own mom. Can't believe how strong she is in that regard ! I think she can safely advise people who are in abusive relationships bc the girl took her stuff and fled to another country all alone.
I've been struggling with my weight and dunno what to do.
Penus : Drink warm yogurt and subscribble to see more about what I eat.
Weenos, I'm a weeb like you and my parents say I'm too old for this shit. I hate them. - Weeaboo*
Ugh unfriend them on fb and escape to Japan, here weebs are free. Faito!!
fuck anons, y'all are killing me kek. these really sound legit.
Honestly, thinking about Venus trying to give people advice is at least an amusing idea. I know for sure that she won't give people any type of solid answers, but at least she's thinking of new content, i guess…?
nuff of fucking mukbangs, is my voice cute and dead fish eye doll makeup, please.
Her channel just isn't dead because 14 year olds exist and because her former haters (mostly sad neets apparently) self insert watching "uguu brave Wenoos broke free from her angry mum owo she's happy now with kawaii husband in glorious japan, maybe i still have a chance chuu"
I'm looking forward to it. Don't disappoint us again, Venus. Bring better content like you promised~
You guys made my day! A parody video would be so fun!
sage cause adds nothing to the debate
Or… She's just pulling her fans legs again and doesn't make the video.
1) She never made a draw my life video like she promised for the 1mil subs … Instead we got bullshit "omg guise I'm still growing so, so I can't. Tehee"
2) Email me proof/picture of what my mom has said and I'll try and cover everything in a video. ( or something like like ) AND NADA ! Not even even a "I changed my mind .. "
3) Every time she does something highly requested by the fans we get trash. Like when she said how she stays in shape all she did is microwave yogurt and say she's naturally thin. ( which is BS )
And now she wants her fans to email her personal problems … Reading thru emotional heartfelt letter/emails from her fans can take hours upon hours to do. Bitch is fucking lazy, and if she does do something she'll just pull out fake advice questions she came up with rather then reading someones email. >>3
paragraph heartfelt email
>>Self written question
Wtf are you always this dramatic? Tbh I think she moved to Japan because that's the ultimate weeaboo dream and she had a chance. Maybe that whole Margo-Venus drama was another teens vs parents case, not that ~Venus is a survivor~ shit.
This reminded me a little of.. Lindsay Lohan's family drama kek She has bad teeth too btw
so what? that's old news.
you say that as if crazy parents were such an unsual thing. yeah, margo is fucking nuts, but venus is living with manaki, shes been with him for a fucking year
and doesn't seem to talk with her mom anymore. let that shit go.
having crazy/abusive parents is really bad, but not unusual. many snowflakes have shown to have crazy family members too, but do we excuse them for their behaviour or feel super bad for the poor survivors? No. I'm sure that many anons here in this thread have super shitty parents too, maybe even worse than Margo. I just won't tell my long story here because I don't want to turn this comment into a blog post but I literally had to run away from my home too.
It's always Margot's fault when Venus does something retarded. Jfc.
Stop with the survivor shite.
That's a different anon actually. Reclusive
…seriously? Kek >>211780>It's always Margot's fault when Venus does something retarded.
Always. That's the official excuse for all her sketchy shit now.
Margo must be a very powerful Hungarian witch that can control Weenoos from far away.
Margo has fucked up parents too. Can you imagine having your father saying on instagram that you are practically a bitch without god and whatever the fuck else he posted?
The entire family is fucked up and Venus is no exception. She likes the drama and the attentions created by this situation.
Dude knock it off with the false equivalencies. Margot is a malignant narcissist who alienates everyone unfortunate enough to come into her orbit including her immediately family.
I don't think Venus likes drama at all. Most people with N parents don't. They've seen enough drama and bullshit to last a lifetime.
Papa Ferenc is super fucked up lol actually aunt Zsu said they had a very tough childhood. They should start a Keeping up with the Palermos channel. >>211900
Kek Venus actually tags her own videos as "drama".
I loved how she used a "Freelee" tag in one of her binge eating videos, she was literally craving for attention, imagine all those fucking views! she is all about the money tbh.
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Bwahahaha!The best part of teaching English to your partner.
*How dare you"
sage and sorry for all my typos
wtf am I looking at ? Is that actually Venus in the comments calling him a "fucking perv" ….
Their humour is fucked …
Meh i've also called my boyfriend that jokingly.
I wonder if people really believe Venus is still an untouched virginal innocent flower who blushes when her husband touches her waist.
They've been going at it for sure and Venus is simply keeping her sex life private (like most sane people would)
I forgot to mention I was a different, anon. I was >>211780
but not >>211404
>>211405 or any other anon earlier that day.
Agreed 100%, >>211977
I'm not a hategelic either, and honestly I used to be a sucker for Venus. The only thing I dislike is how people can't take any criticism on her.>>211952
I'm glad she's showing who she is now. Hopefully she's going to drop the uguu kawaii angel doll shit soon. >>212041
who cares about you and your boyfriend? fangelics bring up their boyfriends all the time in this thread and compare their situation to Venus'. stp being retarded, there's a whole context to why people see Manaki and Venus as a creepy couple and it's been explained why more than a hundred times.
Stop self inserting.
had to delete this comment a minute ago for highliting the wrong anon
Someone is reading us…tbh I wouldn't be surprised if a stan turns out to be Venus herself or Tsuruko or one of those fucks kek >>211977
Agree, something is really off with that weeb. Hardcore weeaboos are usually sketchy attention whores. >>212041
"One night in Venus" could be recorded and waiting to be leaked.
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Is she wearing brown circle lenses? She looks so weird here and her hair is shit again. >>212110
You're too kind.
Her wigs look greasy and her extensions looks ratty, so the only time her hair looks alright is when she filters/edits the fuck out of it.
There's some asshole anon in these threads that keeps pushing Margo's claim that Venus is a sad asexual that can't please Manaki, so some people do have that view.
All of Manaki's jokes are a hallmark of a guy who went from late-bloomer virgin to a guy getting some on the regular. That boldness(in Manaki's case) doesn't come from deprivation, but the two of them also are nowhere near as vulgar as Margaret is online. They just look playful and comfortable.
Didn't those hentai figurines Margaret was selling belong to Venus? I like Venus and I still think she's a secret pervert who enjoys talking rough or crude with Manaki. I never thought she was an innocent flower.
You connect everything to Margo, seriously you are obsessed.
I've seen that anon(s?) here saying that maybe Weenoos and Manaki don't have sex, I don't agree but I can think of many reasons why they believe that, it has nothing to do with Margo.
KEK omg now that I read that again I
can't stop laughing
>Manaki, the late-bloomer virgin.
Anon please tell us more. >>212369>Venus made a man out of him… on a bed of stuffed animals
and her seifuku pyjamas.
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>>212193>Her wigs look greasy and her extensions looks ratty, so the only time her hair looks alright is when she filters/edits the fuck out of it.
You are right.
I have the impression that she smells like cooking oil.
I just noticed that Weenoos follows Marina Nagasawa, maybe that kawaii+hentai sick combo is goals for her.
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I didn't know who that was, so I went to google, and now I'm disturbed because that girl literally looks like an 8 year old with tits. wtf.
What's with you? That's literally nothing.
The anons ITT clutching their pearls whenever Venus isn't G-rated has me dying.
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Yikes at some of these headlines. How uncomfortable.
Obsessed? Which anon do you think I am?
MARGARET started the asexual rumor. MARGARET and her stans criticize Venus and Manaki's sexual expression while encouraging Margaret's. MARGARET was selling the figurines that Venus onced owned.
There is a direct link to the subject being discussed. Do you understand?>>212446
Um, that's it. He's a late-bloomer who is awkwardly expressing his sexual freedom with his equally nerdy girl. He's no Don Jaun and it's funny. Don't you know any nerdy Japanese guys or sheltered kids?
Now here's an image just for you: Venus and Manaki smashing after their Nerunerunerune video. Don't forget Manaki's candy glove. You're welcome.
Am I the only one who feels like this is all Venus ? Like she's writing all this to herself sitting alone in her plushy surrounded room … Like I just remember the awkward emails he wrote to Margo in english, and I'm not saying he couldn't improve since then… But I slightly doubt he's writing any of those captions. I honestly think she runs the IG account for him.
Most English learners usually say "I" rather then " I AM" since " I'm / I AM " doesn't exist in their vocabulary. Also his use of grammar "," when he's self learning as well as learning off of V.. eeeh, I don't think he'd be that far along …
Maybe I'm just being nit picky, but this comes across as bored little V wanting to put out this perfect kawaii risky relationship image.
( Maybe V is the late bloomer and this is her feeling like hot shit after he made a house wife out of her )
I didn't say she was controlling him, but cute try there. >>212614>>212616
He's not attending classes though, and has a full time night job. I just doubt that someone who is spending there very little free time self learning is that far along. Plus he went from posting in Japanese and feeling self conscious about people not liking him to cursing and posting the same way V does.
Most I've bumped into don't use "I'm", but they were self learners who were slowly learning on their own and not thru a language school.
Its just a shitty theory that she runs both accounts … No need to get upset and think I'm attacking your precious V.
They learn English in school. I am is probably very easily translated to "私は" so Idk why you say it doesn't exist in Japanese. It's harder to teach the word "my" like "my name is" rather than "I am name
Regardless of this, he's speaking mostly English with Venus and she's probably teaching him, so chances are they will use similar words, or if he asks her for help, it will look like she wrote it. I mean sure he could let her run her instagram, but I feel it's reaching to say he has no say in what is written, however Venus may help him translate what he wants to say in English for his captions.
> sage because this is retarded
>>212628> I just doubt that someone who is spending there very little free time self learning is that far along. >that far along>the very first thing you learn in English classes
He went at least to middle school. He learned this.
>No need to get upset and think I'm attacking your precious V.
We're just pointing out how retarded your theory is. None of the post you're replying to even mention venus.
>>212545>Venus and Manaki smashing after their Nerunerunerune video. Don't forget Manaki's candy glove. You're welcome.
I believe that she is a sick pervert who likes the weird hentai+kawaii combo and that she fucks Manaki in that cringey love seat (eww) but some anons believe she doesn't fuck him, they have their reasons, deal with it. No one has to think the same. >>212653
Ikr that fucking obsessed anon thinks that not kissing her ass = Margo stan lol
Freelee shouldn't give her the attention she wants but at the same time it could be fun if she makes a video roasting her for giving sick tips and all the crap she eats.
Agreed. This bitch is insane and she thinks she has a fanclub here.
I think discussion started here: >>212275>There's some asshole anon in these threads that keeps pushing Margo's claim that Venus is a sad asexual that can't please Manaki, so some people do have that view.
I'm a different anon, I don't agree with that theory, I don't think Venus is asexual
or something like that but I think anon's reasons to believe they don't have sex aren't connected to Margo's beliefs.
Then anon started with the Margo and her stans shit again ~ >>212545 >MARGARET started the asexual rumor. MARGARET and her stans criticize Venus and Manaki's sexual expression while encouraging Margaret's.
and that's why I said Not kissing her ass =/= Margo stan
I'm not even the anon she was talking about.
Different anon, but wtf you're saying that about >>212852
? Because they are criticising your goddess? Grow up. Not everyone likes Venus and there's no need to say people like Margo or even sympathise with her.
As far as i remember no one in this thread has even taken Margo's side. The only thing they brought up is that people excuse everything Venus does because of Margo, or blame her for everything… Which is, honestly, fucking retarded. Stop being such a cunt.
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Wait, what video? Is this from a…
a) Draw my life video
b) Venus Advice video
c) How to learn Japanese video
d) Random new idea
>You want to wear as natural or less makeup as possible
Proceeds to cake her face.
This amount of makeup has to look caky and awful in person. Nothing about this gives off natural makeup/no makeup look either : Mascara,eyeshadow,2 brow products,layers of concealers and coverup and dark lip tint with lip gloss … Not to mention the weird bee stung my eyes/pink eye make up. >>212971
We'll never get a draw my life video as she's "forever still growing ".. Plus probably doesn't want to do anything that could potentially trigger
I seem to remember a similar video…
Pure theory here: Maybe she is redoing some of her older videos, to do them how she
wants… Rather than how Mother Maggot wanted them.
It would explain why she hasn't done anything overly new and seems to repeating things
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>all these anons implying that living with a Margo for all of your life (minus like 2 years) isn't going to deeply affect your actions later in life
>All these anons licking Venus' asshole and whiteknighting whenever she does something retarded and blaming Margo for it, who doesn't even talk to her at all anymore.
Seriously, Venus not doing nicer and more interesting videos now is Margo's fault too? People said her content was better once she left to be with Manaki, and now one year later it's getting worse and it's Margo's fault again? Kek.
If you want people to see Venus as a grown up, which I'm sure you do, stop trying to blame her mother for literally everything.
So it was another makeup tutorial and not one of the videos she promised…
Anyway. Do you have to make a fuck me
face when you drink? lol
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This chick has nothing on Venus. And btw, I don't see an appendix scar anywhere.
pretty sure this pic was taken before that?
But I might be wrong.
(thought it happened after she left margo, margo is obviously standing next to her in this pic so that's why)
Is this >>212117
from Margo era
That picture is edited af.
>>212905>wtf you're saying that about >>212671 ? Because they are criticising your goddess? Grow up. Not everyone likes Venus and there's no need to say people like Margo or even sympathise with her.
No dear, I didn't say anything about >agreeing with Margo or >sympathizing with her. What I said was this:>>212671>I believe that she is a sick pervert who likes the weird hentai+kawaii combo and that she fucks Manaki in that cringey love seat (eww) but some anons believe she doesn't fuck him, they have their reasons, deal with it. No one has to think the same.
is AS CREEPY AND OBSESSED as fucking Margo at the height of her ragefest, and even creepier in fact, because while even Margo seems to have gotten over it the creepy fuck(s) posting this shit can't seem to.
And stop with the "YOU'RE JUST A BLIND FANGELIC DEFENDING YOUR GODDESS!" crap. It's lame.
I can make the difference between Venus in person and her fucking work.
And her content ain't become miraculously good since her runaway (old cakey makeup trends, fugly drawings…) Be honest!
Shitty parents isn't an excuse for crappy/cringy content ( >>211786 >>211812
) It's functioning for all snowflakes and your Kawaii Godessu is no exception.
Deal with it or go back to PULL or another fangelic forum.
Because all the people you mentioned were adults and both agreed to the relationship.
Manaki started to stalk Venus when she was fucking 13 and him 19-to-20.
She was a little more than a child, he was an adult.
I can understand if they met like now, because 20-27 eh, it's a bit too much but can work, but you wouldn't be creeped out if your college roomate started flirting and stalking your thirteen year old little sister?
Are you angry? Breathe. Read this again: >>212904
I actually agreed with you, I believe they have sex like most married couples, told you I'm not that anon you were talking about.
I said she is a sick pervert, because someone else/you? said "I think she is a secret pervert" so I agreed with that too.
Then I told you some anons don't think the same, deal with it"
And boom now I'm the "obsessed" one when the rest of the anons here already told you that you are obsessed with Margo and anons criticizing Venus. You are arguing with everyone here. Hide this thread.
You breathe, hon. I wasn't addressing or talking about your post >>212904
Learn to read.
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OMG when she pulls & stretches the skin under her eyes with that sticky tape to make those fucking tear bags I literally gag. That skin is so thin and fragile, she's gonna destroy her face. STOP IT.
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And those nails, jfc on a cracker. Half of them have fallen off and the remaining nails are ragged and dirty. I criiinge
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Ugh Venus, just ewww
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On a positive note, her bathroom sink looks pretty cute and I like her hair like this.
oh sweet jesus
I thought that tape stuff was only for upper eyelids
Isn't that uncomfortable as hell under your eye??
Maybe you are confusing some anons, well, it doesn't matter.
This is a normal thread, if you like Venus, fine, believe it or not no one here "hates" her really, this thread is for discussing Venus actual content and stuff but not a fan club, that's what it is and nothing more. You are going to find comments or theories you don't agree with in every thread and you can't really blame others for your own words and actions, that's the concensus.
Well, this is how I see things.. actually I like this thread because no one is actually wishing her bad luck or something negative, people just want her to improve her content because it is shit, and stop being shady… and maybe, just maybe, do something about those damned teeth.
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Yo. You just referenced a quote from me at >>212904
and are attributing it to this anon: >>213911
I haven't posted in a few days…
Also, wtf?:>when the rest of the anons here already told you that you are obsessed with Margo and anons criticizing Venus. You are arguing with everyone here
The rest? How many anons specifically made the claim that I or "Venus stans" are obsessed with Margaret? Wasn't that just you in response to me(Margaret Margaret Margaret)? Just because other anons also said they think Venus is being coddled and Margo blamed for everything doesn't mean they are agreeing with your every word.
It would be real nice if you stop and only reply directly to individual posts instead of your imagination. Danke.
Igari makeup style is still going strong among young Japanese women, though there are slight variations. The site for C-tive cheek color has a few examples of igari make techniques. https://www.koji-honpo.jp/c-tive/products/cheek/
I usually think Venus' makeup tutorials are pretty awful, but she didn't do anything wrong in this video. My only criticism is that she needs to get more familar with how japanese eyebrow products work with her new eyebrow shape. The peeling tint does not seem to be working well with her eyebrow color and texture. Maybe her application method is bad, but a powder kit may work better. It almost looks like smudges of curry roux in the video.
The tape was made for upper eyelids but I've seen plenty of people use it under their eyes. I think Taylor even did it when she started doing eyebag makeup
Though, the difference from them and Venus is that she is incredibly rough with her skin.
She reminds me of Abipop here. This link it's the pose and expression mixed with blond hair.
(sage for no contribution)
And she already has puffy eyes: >>212449
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Yeah this. No reason to believe he actually stalked her.
I do think this thing with japs loving young girls is weird as fuck though obviously. BUt its all still harmless. I've seen far creepier actual pedo guys commenting on her stuff
Definition of stalking
attention by an individual or group towards another person, that directly or indirectly communicates a threat
or places the victim in fear
"following someone on SM" or "going to a public event to meet the person you're following/a fan of."
Whatever the age discrepancy (some) people love to clutch their pearls over, it's obvious at this point that Manaki had no nefarious or prurient intentions toward Venus. There was no "stalking" here. Can we just get over that myth?
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she looks so old here what in the world
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^lol. For the teeth-obsessed anons. >>214588
Watching it again, yes, that kind of gives me the shivers. One miscalculated jerk… yikes!
But as a tutorial, she actually followed exactly what is in current magazines and makeup books.
Omg, guys. Unless you have proof of kawaii dick pics sent to underage Venus, stop claiming Manaki was a dirty stalker. Tbh, I would stop supporting him if there was evidence that he acted inappropriately in the beginning, but dating(if you could even call it that) her at 17-18 and, according to you-know-who, not consummating their marriage until she fled back to Japan, there is no proof he was a stalking predator. A fan meet-up, approved by her mother, is not stalking. >>215793
I appreciate that she shows her real face like this, even if she looks stressed. She looks a bit dehydrated. It shows that she isn't trying to fool anyone like Dakota(who I don't hate). Looking like Margo can't be helped as they are, you know, related.
Anon, I'm europoor and believe me, Venus just has bad dental hygiene.
In Europe yes, we don't have much fluoride in the water because high levels of it can cause poisoning, but, because of it, we have fluoride-based toothpaste (almost all of them) and fluoride chewinggums.
So we can consume fluoride at the time we need it (when brushing our teeth, but not for cooking etc)
Venus simply doesn't care, period. Americans are so fast assuming shit about countries they don't know stuff about.
Just as obesity has zero to do with bad alimentation.
What is it, then?
You could be right. She oftens stays up very late or posts in the wee hours of the morning. Anxiety from all this crap(and loneliness) could give her insomnia too.>>215907
I didn't write anything about my own personal thoughts on her hygiene or teeth color. Just showing how she responded for you guys. Progress! Maybe potential video!
Vagina would be his only interest? For one thing: He's an otaku into cute and girly things who was likely on 2ch or other popular forum during the boom of foreign otaku. Foreigners that love Japanese things, especially if they are not unwashed ham-lords, are a big draw and Japanese media can never get enough of people who praise Japan. Do you not remember Venus' rise in popularity at the time? Lots of people were watching her or talking about her online. Not everyone was thinking of doing terrible things to her. From the few old comments that were found, Manaki only wrote about encouraging her Japanese language study. Don't you think She-who-shall-not-be-named would have pulled out all of the creepy, damning texts or posts from Mr. Pedobear by now if they existed? She had access to everything and could have destroy him.
Again, give proof that he actually did something bad besides following an Internet curiosity on social media. Not just assumption.
In before "Venus stans wouldn't accept proof anyway!"
Venus called him stalker too, though. It's more for the fact that he was a HUGE FAN of Venus when she was still a young teen and followed her for so many years no matter she was making content mainly for young girls. Now both are adults, but the age gap was important back then.
Manaki's behavior and interests are very weird imo. Not trying to convince you, it's ok.
>lol. For the teeth-obsessed anons.
LOL. I think she drinks too much coffee. Next thing she needs to buy: Shampoo for oily hair… and something to repair those nails. Sorry, but I agree with the other anons, it's just that her personal hygiene isn't good exactly.
Do you know anything about Japanese pop culture? They're obsessed with cutesy kawaii girls, the guys included. It seems creppy and weird to Westerners but it's a thing over there so Manaki is far from unique. Being a fan of Venus the Living Doll does not equate to sexually fantasizing and lusting after her underage flesh. Hard to understand for Westerners, but this is Japan. They're 'different.'
And again, "stalking" involves "obsessive
contact that makes the person feel threatened
". None of which applies here, so can you get over this shit already? Manaki is not a "stalker." That's just another one of marge's (many) attempted smears.
You are full of shitty excuses. Don't waste your time.
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Pls kiss me, senpai
Something that sticks out for me is when Venus' incubator was pushing for him to marry Venus, he was hesitant seemed like he wanted to wait until she was older. He also expressed that he include Margo in their future until she showed her true colors. Yes, he is odd and childish, but also protective and traditional at times. I know a lot of guys like that here in Japan(not pedos!), so that's mostly why I'm biased towards him.
Even Margo previously called him a family man type and praised his character. >>216455
All I have to say is that I really like her wig.
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the "dopest in the house"? What is happening to our kawaii venus??
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look marge…PARFAIT! Lol
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Not the bouillon cube this time.
That's how her teeth really look under natural light. She had that putrid yellow tone in her "first vlog"
too, but the light there was different.
not that anon but on certain gestures her chin and mouth look just like margrot's. Thankfully she didn't inherited the butt nose and dead beady eyes of her mother.>>216521
I also thought we were going to get more of these…
LOL everyone can buy a parfait. You are so childish.
Weenoos eating crap as usually, good for her white smile… ugh imagine her breath.. omg senpai RUN! >>216711
Not that anon but she has that butt shape too, just smaller.
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Kek oh no anon, she is busy eating shit.
That's probably what her stans are going to do if she asks them.
Weenoos: My life is miserable. Sweet fangelics, go kill yourself.
Fangelics: boo bye bye boooo! jump
Why you so triggered
by Anons pointing out how gross her fucking teeth are ?
Really makes me wonder if you're so sensitive that you probably have some nasty ass teeth too.
Go brush your teeth Anon, and stop complaining about people nitpicking about what shade of yellow/green Penus' teeth are.
i was just gonna post a screenshot. i dont hate or like venus but i keep up with her because she's a classic cow, but damn her teeth are yellow. when people started commenting on it i didnt think it was that bad but they gradually got worse and now im just cringing. i drink a lot of tea so my teeth aren't pearly white either but i would never let my teeth get to that shade, it's disgusting frankly. girl needs to go get some teeth whitening done with that youtube cash.
i don't know why she wouldn't either, it'll make her look cuter and more youthful. don't all bloggers have bleached teeth anyways?
Oh hi Venus!>>216769
That stan is triggered
by everything. Things that anons say and make her go insane:
Her content is still shit
Manaki is a creep
She looks like Morge
They don't have sex
Her cosplays are shit
Your theory is BS
And so on..
Stan logic: if someone doesn't like her, that person must be a troll.
I have seen this person in other threads always connecting everything to Margo when no one actually cares about the Hungarian witch, it's someone very active in the kiwifarms, sometimes she writes exactly the same there and here.
I forgot to mention it… I love how she changed the thumbnail of her video when it was like 5:00 am in Japan.
She is lurking, confirmed.
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>>216523>when Venus' incubator was pushing for him to marry Venus, he was hesitant seemed like he wanted to wait until she was older. He also expressed that he include Margo in their future until she showed her true colors. Yes, he is odd and childish, but also protective and traditional at times. I know a lot of guys like that here in Japan(not pedos!), so that's mostly why I'm biased towards him
pic attached is Manaki the Pedo Stalker talking about his pervy pedo obsession. Lol
I thought that anons said the person behind that e-mail was Margo impersonating Manaki.
Read again, no one said ALL of the comments, just pointed out there's an anon that gets extremely butthurt and connects everything to Venus' case, it's a fact kek >>216901
If you don't agree, it's ok, but don't try to convince people, you won't.
Seems like you're the ones who are triggered
. Calm down, it's not that serious.
So, are you basically saying that MostPeace was in fact Manaki?
Woah… stop with this shit while you can anon, your long-standing beliefs are about to crumble to ashes.
If I were you, I would withdraw that as evidence now. Do you really want to validate the Kappa's evidence? be careful…
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She's posted screenshots of real emails before, like pic attached. This was a real one.>>216901>And even if that is margo, how does that show he's obsessed/a pedo?
My comment was meant to be /sarcasm/
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Oh look, a live chat! You can tell her to brush her shitty teeth up close and live, right in her face. That should be extra gratifying for you. Tues. at 6am jap time, don't miss it!
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I have better things to do, Anon.
Please, send her my regards and this link http://www.pgshop.com/pgshop-brand-crest/
>>216910>no one said ALL of the comments, just pointed out there's an anon that gets extremely butthurt and connects everything to Venus' case
And it MUST be just ONE anon, every time. Right? >>216764>>216769>>216782>>216731>Hi Venus
just like >>216731
^ was totally Venus!
My comments were out of amusement at you "EW her teeth!" babies. You on the other hand were lightning quick to jump on that and quite agitated as well. So who's triggered
Oh and I rarely comment on KF and when I do it's just on margo, not a single one Venus-related. Does Venus even have a thread over there? I've never seen one. Sorry to blow your theory, tinfoil hat anon.
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I like it too but I think it's a sweater. She has a fur-trimmed coat that's similar that I think is pretty cute too.
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I like the new clothes she's gotten recently. Her style is really cute.
You're the ONLY ONE who has a problem with it. The only person who writes like this and tells people to leave the thread/go to Margaret's thread.
If it's relevent to the topic, Margo WILL be mentioned and you can't do anthing about it. The whole reason you and others keep saying defamatory, unproven shit about Manaki and Venus is BECAUSE of Margaret's claims. How hard is that for you to comprehend?
If it triggers
you that much, let's keep using nicknames for your darling instead. That's cool with me. >>216782
Talk about paranoid! You accused me of being "that person" before, then other anons of being me. Now you say they(me?!) are all over other threads AND a kiwifarms user? Funny that you admit to being so actively involved in all those threads and KF to form this theory.
Go look at Venus' IG and Youtube, PULL and KF, and look at all the people that like her or Manaki. People that think Margaret is an abusive Narc who damaged Venus. People with Narc parents who heard about Venus only recently and relate to her. There are a lot more of them than people like you. Yet you keep pretending there's no way more than one person could write supportive, empathetic comments to her here.
Sorry, you're delusional.
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This is from the thread from 5 months ago. The person believed to be Margaret impersonating Manaki created an instagram account using his yahoo mail address as the username. This is where the confusion comes from.
Haha please, stay mad. >>217116
A kiwifarms user? No kek, that's you.
You just said that to >>217028
who is not me. Wish a mod would step in soon.
But thanks for showing everyone what a loon you are.
kek Do you know how many times anons call other anons Margo/Vexxed/drop a name
or confuse an anon with other anon? Kek
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I can't help but be skeptical of this being Manaki's email, because his English is bad. He doesn't seem able to write more than a short sentence in English, pic related.
Kek, you killed me with the boo bye-bye boo
Why can't fangelics just accept she has ugly yellow teeth ? It's not a lie, people aren't reaching. Maybe some anons keep bringing that up again because of how triggered
you guys get, Jesus.
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Please write that again in English.
I support Venus and I know she has badly stained enamel. It looks like she wants to do something about it(Youtube comment) so we'll have to wait and see what happens. As I live in Japan too, I see a lot of young adults who have food-stained teeth, so likely no one here has said anthing to her about her teeth and she remained ignorant. However, even minor Japanese celebrities are into teeth-whitening now, so she has more incentive to think about her public image. I hope she documents it.>>217143
I was too slow to respond so thanks for answering first. You're right. His email is real and the instagram was just someone impersonating him.
Don't forget this too:http://domainbigdata.com/gmail.com/mj/270uH-OBogAdbCYVc9YehA
Haha, the only mad ones are>>216769>>216782
squealing in rage that their god-given right to hatepost on WEENOOS is being questioned.
and this poor sap>>216764>Hi Venus
whos's totally sure I must be WEENOOS.
different anon, but you are just embarrasing yourself. just let go and stop arguing, fuck. >squealing in rage that their god-given right to hatepost on WEENOOS is being questioned.
it seems you can't take any criticism. lots of people here don't lick venus' asshole like you and she constantly gets a bunch of dislikes on her videos as well. not everyone who dislikes or says she's a tryhard weeb with bright yellow teeth is a hateposting h8er.
also, i personally think it's better to be a "hater" than an asslicker who gets triggered
their "friendship" probably isn't real tbh. they do that for views. not saying that is wrong or anything though. youtube is a business.
Probably because she's much younger than all the other girls, she must have felt too anxious and uncomfortable to go. Also the jvlogging crew often seems to hate weeaboos and Venus' videos, even nowadays, are very different than the style those girls do, so I don't know if she thought that far but if I were her I'd be incredibly paranoid about all of them shit talking me lmao. I think it's better this way, she would have been incredibly awkward.>>217273>their "friendship" probably isn't real tbh. they do that for views. not saying that is wrong or anything though.
Eh I wouldn't go that far. I think Taylor is very nice and she seems to really want to have friends (I mean, she keeps buying the few "friends" she has hundreds of dollars worth of presents). In my opinion Venus and Taylor's friendship seems more genuine to me than with most of the girls that were at her birthday, only judging from seeing them in vlogs.
New Weenus Wideo! This one is more well-put together than the previous ones and has better flow. I think she's improving. And for our thread's Chastity belt-chan: more sexual jokes with Manaki!>>217269
Taylor seems genuine, but I would be very cautious around the other girls too. They're really different than Taylor and I don't think any of them ever liked Venus. But wasn't it Mimei who offered words of support during the big drama and mass "I can be your manager" emails? I guess they could warm up to her, but I don't think they will ever mesh well.
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I read somewhere that Venus was invited but something came up and Venus couldn't make it, I don't think it has to do with the other jvloggers like some anons are saying seeing as she follows Sharla and Kim on instagram. Maybe she's just not a party person or something really did come up.
Honey, people can read the posts and judge for themselves who was triggered
. And please stop with the lame-ass "LICKING VENUS' ASSHOLE" routine, k? It's fucking lame.