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Isa (now Isaac) Sparks is the young wife of Dorian Sparks, the now-adult and independent son of the nefarious Raven.
>Raven bolted from her marriage to Logan and from NZ, now lives a life of trailer and Slim-Jim luxury in South Carolina, US where she is married to her next victim.>Dorian stayed behind in NZ and married his gf, Isa, who had already shown “poly” tendencies.>Isa made significant contributions of information about Dorian’s welfare and whereabouts t our threads. Anons with stronger stomachs dubbed her “lovely GF” and stroked her ego to get her to produce more information. She appeared to revel in talking about Dorian’s state of mind to anons. It’s not known how much of his posting he authorised.>Cut to now, Doran and Isa appear to be living with Logan and Logan is apparently getting him some Isa too>Isa is now on the transtrender train.>Gay love triangle!>Is Isa Raven 2.0? Let’s wait and see…
Ramonamag Contributor page: https://ramonamag.com/contributors_post/isa-denney-strother/
Ramonamag Article, "Gender": https://ramonamag.com/2016/12/i-am-not-your-argument/
Gone or changed:
Please add Logan’s and Dorian’s social media to the thread:
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Sorry about that it’s
Isa clearly lurks since she privatized a bunch of stuff on fb. We know they posted here before and likely Logan realized the girl who crushed on him spilled the beans since she was outed by posting.
It’s interesting seeing Logan be active on insta after Raven shouted for years how he hated using anything. But he seems pretty ok with posting himself with Isa and doing his own thing. Must be good to be out of Ravens claws.
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She was tipped
Can't handle being on the other side? Kek
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Dorian and Isa’s wedding day. At least she’s not as fug as Cravey.
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Introductory image drop and post from the Altcow thread here.
“I can't post this on the Raven thread because it's reached its limit and I don't want to make a new one but I had to share this.
Omg so it turns out that Logan is fucking Dorian's gf. That whole family is fucked up! Logan was Dorian's stepdad for all intents and purposes (even though that marriage was a sham and wrong on all levels) for 5 years and now they're sharing the same girl that wants to be a boy (she goes by Issac and "he" now but I think it's just for attention)? I used to like him but this is wrong on so many levels. They were family for 5 years and now they're sharing a boy/girl. I'm the anon who used to talk to him when Gravy first left Nz until she got him to block me. Now you couldn't pay me to touch him.”
Why the fuck do people cowtip immediately these days? Show some fucking restraint, jesus.
Big question: if, as anons of old speculated, Dorian did have a crush on Logan wayyy back in the day before the Hag stole his schoolboy affections; was this a way for him to get close to Logan again?
Seriously also, wtf is up with this Isa bitch? Why is she being such a gross pig to a kid who’s already been through the ringer, what with Raven for a ‘parent’? She’s young but not that young, and her writing over at Ramona suggests some intellect.
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A new link to Isa's wiccan profile, and I've downloaded and started archiving Logan and Dorian's social media.
Isa's "Pagans & Wiccans" page:https://aminoapps.com/c/pagans-witches/page/user/isa-denney-strother/D851_aW6sdfMlmZp4b8JMlg1qLg6N3Le2d3
Logan's Instagram archive:https://imgur.com/a/VrBZonM
Dorian's Facebook archive: http://archive.is/BYcyS
That's already been discussed, and I think the general consensus is that she wouldn't be able to control herself thinking about Logan with someone else so this most likely isn't her, but we're all waiting for her to show herself
It’s gross behavior on her part. Dorian needs to leave the country and make his own way. Being in a poly relationship with Logan is never going to work out. There’s no way it can be even remotely healthy for Dorian.
This kid is in so deep he has no idea of the horror right in front of him.
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couple more pics from the other thread
bad tattoos, copied fatty
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“I Am Not Your Argument”
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Flashback to when Logan and Dorian were no-contact. via >>>/pt/442364
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Enough about Dorian, let's talk about meeee>>>/pt/442463
More delving:>We're happy. We have our own place, we have a stable relationship, we have work and school and privacy to the point of only sharing what we want to share>I have actually lurked around lolcow for ages because it made me feel slightly better after she threatened me and hurt Dorian>I thought I was pregnant while I knew her and I was honestly terrified she would try to take our baby>the worst she could do is talk to Dorian again and start to abuse him mentally (which wouldn't be hard, he's very open and honest and therefor trusts people when they say they're sorry almost regardless of anything they've done)>our life has too much riding on stability; Being financially codependent, cohabitating, helping out friends, and on our way to starting our own family…there is really no room left for her you know? >I like ranting here … I'm on school break and we're both sick so it's something we do to keep entertained aha. Hope you don't mind us lurking around>>>/pt/445011
Also just a thought: curious that Logan's "friend" was/is from the US (AT&T mobile provider). I guess they never said, but some of us assumed they were real-life buddies. >>>/pt/444390
She's still presenting as a woman in June when they married >>682831
then in July around six weeks later, bam she's a man >>682833
The poly thing, I think she'd dabbled in that prior, but was it an openly declared poly relationship going into the marriage? I wonder if he was really able to see all this coming.
>wouldn't be hard [to abuse him mentally] he's very open and honest and therefor trusts people when they say they're sorry almost regardless of anything they've done
She's indicating nearly a year ago she knows he's very exploitable. It may be he's cool with all this, or it may be he has nowhere else to go.
I doubt it. He probably already had a resident visa which lasts indefinitely. There's a lot of different ways of entering the country but they could've for instance done this:
"Dependent Child Resident Visa
This visa is for you if…
… you’re a New Zealand citizen or resident living in New Zealand and you want to bring your dependent children to New Zealand to live with you. If your children are granted residence, they can live, study and work in New Zealand indefinitely."
Your children must be single, 24 or under, and rely on an adult for financial support."
I'm a rl ex friend of dorian's and I can shed some light on at least some of this. We stopped talking when he moved out of his mums house because Isa took over his social media enough that he had no privacy. We spoke here and there and he was really into her in the beginning but I get the feeling that it was more because of his self esteem. With his mum the way she was and his dad absent he never had much of a family and by the time raven tried to make it right (the last few years she did try to be more supportive and a real mum to him) it was too late. He always felt alone and worthless and we all thought he'd kill himself one day if he kept going on like that. Then he met Isa and being a fellow American who was a child enough to emotionally connect to him it got in his head that this was what he wanted and basically was all he'd ever get. She used to brag to him how she was a cam whore before she was 16 and had sex with a lot of people and in a roundabout way it made him feel special that she wanted to be with him. He definitely never wanted to be in a poly relationship. He's jealous and tried to tell her that it hurt him but she gave him what amounts to an ultimatum. It was either he deal with it or she leaves because she was unwilling to change for him. Hes cried in my arms in the start of the relationship because he was so lost and didn't know what to do. He started flirting with people online maybe to do to her what she was doing to him and his mum and her big mouth got involved and warned Isa saying that she was trying to help but it just hurt the relationship. Isa said that she didn't believe anything she was told but she did and got all dorian's logins and that's why he's not online much and cut off most of his female friends. Me and him used to be really close and he might have even had a thing for me in the past and I hate her for taking away our friendship. I lost one of my best friends but it's ok for her to be with Logan? And no dorian didn't have a thing for Logan he just looked up to him but Isa had her eye on him from the first day they met and she used her control over dorian to make him agree to the poly thing. He really needs to get out of there and away from her. He doesn't know what real love is and he thinks this is it but the amount of crying he's done over her isn't love. Logan should never have agreed either but he's never cared about dorian's feelings even when they were "related". Also Logan's the one who made fun of dorian's skin color. Actually they'd all 3 make fun of each other so I don't think any of that was serious?? It's best for dorian to get away and live his own life and find someone who really loves him imo. Dorian hated hated being around Logan so I can't fathom how he can pretend to be ok with this! Once again he's not the most important person in the life of someone who should have him priority. I just hope he reads here and sees the truth about her, his life and how much better his life can be and leaves before more damage is done and hopefully he can still find happiness
Thanks for posting some backstory. Dorian's past and present situation is as sad as I'd expect. Controlling his friendships and social media, damn.
Also, the cow has awoken but is still to find her way to the correct thread.>I'm not going to tell you again you better take down all of my information>>683008>>683045
Remember Graven controlling Logan's social media?
Isa really is Raven 2.0
Why the hell is she copying her tattoo's? It's like shes trying
to be raven 2. She has her son, ex husband, and tattoos. Next shes gonna gain 300 pounds. She already has shitty goff makeup when she tries to wear it. Too bad some idiot tipped her or else I could share the pic
Sage for double posting but she also got married a day after Gravy. In response to the post wondering who chose the date first, Gravy mentioned marrying on their anniversary earlier on so I believe the original date was hers and Isa copied. She's trying to be a Gravy skinwalker and that's a terrifying thought
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This boys life is so sad. His statuses are still up, scrolling through it seems everyone including himself refers to him as "The Mexican" so I guess he's ok with that, but there are a lot of "sad, single me" statuses, and then this. I can see how Isa was able to bully him into putting up with her shit
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
that comment is from the fucking turbo retard who is obviously still hung up on Logan despite her claims she wouldn't touch him now. >>682864
Nah, Raven was posting in altcows. see the comments about how Raven had a point about this and that, how she had a terrible childhood that led her to make some mistakes, etc. She saw this thread was coming and couldn't help smashing her trotters all over the keyboard in an attempt to get that Victim status she so desperately craves.
Sorry but yes. I've met her. I used to go visit dorian (I'm the ex friend). I saw the change in her but it wasnt enough. Unlike most people I don't have anything against her, she wasn't rude to me or anything but there was definitely no parent/child dynamic there. It was like they werent even related. I dont know what damage happened in the past but they were like roomates which was weird and she used to always come talk to us like we were her peers, she didnt seem to realize she was much older and we were all young enough to be her kids but it didnt hurt us or anything, was just a bit odd and to dorian it was normal. I've been to his house after they moved 2 or 3 times over the years and did see her go from friend to trying to be a mum but it was very unnatural for her and dorian didnt like it, probably because they had gone so long with their dynamic being the way it was it was just too late to change it. Of course he never saw Logan as his stepdad and hated him for trying to be dad to him on the rare times Logan tried to help or give advice or be there for him and I think in the end thats why he wanted out so bad, he hates having someone younger than him in a father role. He just wanted out of the whole situation and used to tell me he felt like it was sucking the life out of him just being in the house, he had no will to better himself or do anything with his life
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
If she really is as narcissistic as people have speculated, it wouldn't surprise me if she was seriously trying to style herself as the hotter, young version of Raven in order to lure Logan in.
Or alternatively, she's just another tacky, mentally unstable ~alt girl~ on the internet, which are ten a penny.
Except she thinks she's a guy now. Bitch is fucked in the head
I feel like it's either extremely extremelllly trashy people that get married straight away or very conservative christians. There's no inbetween.
Raven is trash.
Isa is trash.
They both like trashy things.
I'll bet dollars to doughnuts her library card got a workout as soon as she saw the discussion come up.
Oh totally agree, Isa is a huge cow. Love her posting in the altcow thread "this is illegal". Imagine trying to take it to the cops - a-a-and then … they … they looked at my publicly available social media accounts! tears >>683098
sorry but still not buying it. we've been watching her for years, and she was never shy about the abuse or cutting Dorian down. >>683121
she doesn't actually give a shit about what the labels mean, anon, just what she can use them for. I've seen snowflakes like this argue that asexual means you only feel like sex sometimes.
I'm pretty sure this is Raven.
But if it's not and you really are Dorian's friend, you need to try and be there for Dorian as a friend if he ends up leaving/breaking up with Isla. It sounds like he doesn't have anyone else in his life except Logan and Isa, both of questionable intelligence and mental stability.
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Pissa posting in alt-cow thread, threatening to call internet police.
You typed the word mum rather than mom so I semi believe you are not Raven.
Do you have any screenshots of convos between you and Dorian? I mean seeing as you don't plan on continuing to be mates, surely you wouldn't mind sharing the milk?
Holy shit. The cyber police are coming for us guys!
Seriously though, this girl will leaks so much info on Raven and Dorian's lives online here, but when she is exposed for cucking her boyfriend, she whinges that it's illegal? What a hypocrite. Raven 2.0 indeed.
I've tried to but I can't get to him with her in the way. He's too scared to lose her and maybe be alone again. He knows that I'm always here for him
It could be a troll but I think she's cowish so of course she would cry about it. Cows don't understand hypocrisy.
Can farmhands confirm the i.p in the alt thread?
I think we’d need to ask them over in meta, seems like that’s the only place to get their attention lately.
Polite sage for ot.
I sincerely hope this is made up.
The reality of Dorian’s situation is too depressing, otherwise.
Oof I'm so on the fence about this. I feel like she's a cow in training but I'm also like she's the youngest person involved in this shitshow and needs time to mature.
But I've also had fleeting thoughts that Gravey made this up.
But then there's the photos of her giggling with Logan and they don't seem house matey.
Unless Isa actually comes here to clear her name about it being a healthy relationship, I guess we'll never know. Personally I think they are a bunch of confused children.
It makes perfect sense for them to pick another situation and relationship constellation like this. They are bonded by trauma through Raven (and each other) and their dysfunctional past. This is what they have known for years and seek. And their mutual company feels familiar and stable to them. They don't know healthy relationships and will repeat painful ones unless they seek therapy. And sadly, I don't think Dorian or Logan have it in them to make substantial, good changes for themselves.
What? New-found freedom from Ravy? Room to breathe and explore happier sides of life? Room to start carrying off some of that mountain of suffering our lives have been and start healing? Hell no, better find something to hurt ourselves with!
it really doesn't. dorian had moved away from logan and previously had no contact w him. logan didn't want to talk to him, either. nothing from anything on their social media even suggests that they're close as friends or anything, or even like each other.
imo, it was maybe brought up out of necessity and this isa saw a way to be 'kinky' by getting the affection and attention of both boys in the household. she's still a dumb kid and i can't fully fault her, but it was very callous to do so knowing dorian's history of serious, lifelong abuse
She captioned recent pics of both Dorian and Logan as dates.>>683386
She has a couple pics of other roommates, but the timeline and locations were unclear to me.
I know it was posted in the Alt Cow thread that Logan moved in with them, but is there proof? She locked down her account before I could compare her pics with Logan's.
Please consult >>682923
and then the OP pic. No contact to snuggling. Where there's smoke there's fire.
Gravy's fantastic stories extend to faux suicide and delaying flight by two weeks. She's not talented enough for a ruse of this scale and it wouldn't explain the cuddle pic anyway
>>683287>Unless Isa actually comes here to clear her name
Are you being deliberately obtuse?>>683008>>683045>>683051>>683078
I can't believe any real farmer would take this naive a view.
I have a screenshot of her comments to her mum showing its the 3 of them, but I'm one of those people who uses a speshul
font on my phone and I don't feel like being accused of being Hagraven just because of it
Goes to bed NZ time: no more angry posts.
Wakes up this morning NZ time: "hey guys we will never know the truth because she hasn't proved it herself cased closed byeee".
Call me cycnical.
If you are saying that the anon that said 'we'll never know unless she confirms it' is Isa, then you are wrong because that was me.
I wasnt saying it was or it wasn't her…I just want verification from the farmhands.
Not if they've moved I'd think
proxy, vpn, dynamic ip, etc. when they id a poster, they look at a lot of stuff, not just ip.
you might wanna delete and repost after you blackout the dox, anon.
She'll probably come here now and say none of it was her trying to cover her splerge kek
No-one specifically verified her, we took the word of the anon who had the DMs with her and capped them to post them here that they were satisfied with her identity >>>/pt/441966
and then later after we already accepted it was her she sent a pic to them >>682926
Eventually she posted here herself and just said she was Isa, we accepted that.
I don't know what you think farmhands are doing but they're not running around verifying cows all day, it rarely happens. We don't suddenly need a high bar of proof just because she's fucking someone. This is a gossip site, and the subject here is gossip.
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Here's a blacked out version, can you hit delete on your post (no password needed).
Has Logan closed or changed his account name?
Too bad we didn't screencap the milk before they locked down their accounts.
I doubt it was Raven who tipped them. She would enjoy watching us dissect every post.
Sorry but I don't see the option anywhere
tick the box next to the post, click delete button. >>683449
it was that fucking dumbass who thirsts for logan and is bitter she can't have him, we already established this
Proof they're all lurking here. They should know that changing their names /urls won't stop them from being found
Just have an admin delete it
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She also posted a screencap of a text convo between her and Dorian and in doing so, gave out his phone number. She's not as clever as she likes to think she is.
fuck, I thought that was Logan. >>683543
same, anon. I was especially hopeful for Dorian, he's had such a cunt of a life. Seeing them with raven junior makes me want to cry.
(on the upside, it's a relief to be able to open the thread without worrying that I'm going to see the goth michelin man doing 'sexy' poses. saving a fortune on eyebleach)
I wish there was a way to know for sure if Gravy is lurking. So far all we have are accusations and finger pointing but no solid proof. The silence on her end is aggravating and I hate thinking we're giving her attention that she doesn't deserve. Eagerly awaiting the inevitable meltdown
it's pretty simple, in my view.
is she dead? then no. otherwise, of course she is. she followed along religiously for her own threads.
What attention is she getting? We’re talking about three entirely different people, one of whom is, unfortunately, stepping into the granny’s shoes all too well.
I never understand why some anons come over all breathless about discussing the fact that said granny is a piece of shit. It’s hardly good attention. She’s the only cow that gets ‘starved’ and frankly all it does it protect her from rightful, well deserved criticism. The hand wringing over it is excessive.
Hi Isa! Welcome back!
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how about you relax a bit. Moby Goth will show herself at some point, she can't help it. In the meantime, can we get back to the actual content?
I feel like a fucking dumbass for not paying more attention to the conversations that show her fucking munchie-chan bullshit. I wanted so bad for Logan to fuck off into anonymity and Dorian to get that sweet redemptive arc … and then this.
She doesn't get starved the way anons pretend she is. You can hardly do anything without seeing her name come up. She doesn't even need her thread to be active to have to see her stupid name mentioned every time someone uses a font, or words things similarly, or another cow she might know is mentioned. Imo her trash should be kept in her own thread but you can't get away from it shrugs
Baby Craven stealing yet another page from Gravys book kek
Why don't you go get some more of her shitty tattoo's, or get back to cucking?
agree. surprised her video where she re-enacts The Ring, or plays Gollum, or gets a ring (from Gollum) and goes on about how fancy and expensive it is - kiwifarms rrp via amazon or something: 40 bucks - wasn't enough to trigger