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No. 676104
The latest escapades of:
Adora BatBrat
Drac Makens
ItsBlackFriday
Jake Munro
Kat Von D
Erin Micklow
OfHerbsAndAltars
ToxicTears
Jimmy Mercy
Sebastian Columbine
ReeRee Philips
Avelina De Moray
Alison Eckfeldt
Etc, etc
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>>612283 No. 677158
When is this thread going to be used?
No. 677980
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Adora trying to make her ex husband jealous?
For my taste she is trying to hard to come off sexy and seems more and more cringy.
No. 677989
>>677980I agree. Adora is over the top slutty nowadays.
No. 678049
>>677801I really don't like this thread image, can we get a new one?
>>677980That's Ras' head covered with that image right? Definitely trying to make her ex husband jealous
No. 678239
>>678064Yes they did, it was posted in the last thread but now it's gone
No. 678246
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I can't post this on the Raven thread because it's reached its limit and I don't want to make a new one but I had to share this.
Omg so it turns out that Logan is fucking Dorian's gf. That whole family is fucked up! Logan was Dorian's stepdad for all intents and purposes (even though that marriage was a sham and wrong on all levels) for 5 years and now they're sharing the same girl that wants to be a boy (she goes by Issac and "he" now but I think it's just for attention)? I used to like him but this is wrong on so many levels. They were family for 5 years and now they're sharing a boy/girl. I'm the anon who used to talk to him when Gravy first left Nz until she got him to block me. Now you couldn't pay me to touch him.
No. 678261
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>>678246Eh. He looks like a douche now
No. 678263
>>678251They all live together so I assume so. I follow her on Instagram and she posts pics with them both and I got curious and asked him. I was afraid to write him in case he blocked me again but he didn't. I know Dorian is a jealous person and he never approved of her wanting to screw around so I wonder how he's handling having to share her in his own home with the guy who was married to his mom
No. 678267
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>>678262I liked the font after anon named it so I bought it. I'm not Diana. My name online is Kit and that's all I'm going to say. I used to post when me and Logan were friends and was trying to get info from him for the site
No. 678334
>>678324I wonder how he's handling this, poor guy. I remember from her screenshot video he had issues with his gf wanting to get too close to her male friends back then. He can't be enjoying having to live like that.
>>678290There are roses in this picture and goff queen Craven wouldn't be caught dead with anything flowery, remember? They're not dark and evil enough (I remember her bitching about that in one of her tattoo videos saying she would NEVER EVER GET A ROSE TATTOO BECAUSE
gasp! ROSES AND FLOWERS ARE SO CLICHE AND GAY
kek
No. 678341
Even that idiot isn't stupid enough to post about Logan's transgressions here. All that does is tell us that he was probably interested in lovely gf and she in him, the entire time. Maybe they were already plotting to get together behind her back, because with the porn and now this it's obvious he wasn't happy in that marriage and was already looking elsewhere. We used to think he was interested in that girl she tried to adopt and maybe we were right. Maybe this is the real reason why she turned on Dorian in the end and why she hated Isa so much. I doubt this is something that she would want us to know, so thanks anon for the info. I've been missing my Raven milk, and this at least gives me something to lol at. She lost her entire family to one girl! That must be killing her!
No. 678348
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I'm so tired of these kids pretending to be trans. You don't just wake up one day and decide that you want to be known as the opposite sex. Those of us who are actually living and struggling with their sexual identity don't deserve to see it being used as the trend of the day. It's a real struggle and a nightmare of a life that no one should have to suffer through!
No. 678354
>>678324Lovely gf ain't so lovely now. Even if she's really poly (which I doubt), you don't go after your partners best friend
No. 678385
>>678246Damn. This really just made me sad. Dorian should move far away from any country and people that have any relation or ties with raven in anyway, if he ever wants a chance to heal from his shit selfish mother and everything/everyone she infected with her shit.
Logan is a fucking douche, and looks like a massive faggot tool now.
Not only does he betray, fuck, and marries his mother. But now after all the shit Dorian’s been through, Logan’s doing the same to his girlfriend? That fucking stepfather/stepson is disgusting. Technically Logan is also the father in law of not-so-lovely-gf.
He needs therapy, or else everything that raven did and ruined for him will haunt him and replicate in every facet of his life, even 10+ years down the road.
I now honestly hope Logan gets back together with raven, they deserve each other.
And kek at raven going on and on about how Logan isn’t interested in girls aka “sluts” and that he wasn’t going to date anyone and how he doesn’t want any females contacting him.
The only good thing that will come out of this is a massive hit to raven’s ego bc you know she still thinks she has her hooks in Logan and hates the gf. I highly doubt she even knew, or we’d see a sperging like no other. Cue the “I told Dorian she was a slut!!!!!!!1111 all girls but me are sluts!! That’s what he gets for being so ungrateful to his loving and wonderful mother!!11”
Damn we had such high hopes, this is such a bummer. Dorian has been the victim in this entire cow-tastrophy, and he still is getting fucked over even after his narc mother skipped off oceans away to suck couch dick. I always feel the worst for the children of cows, it must be a nightmare.
No. 678396
>>678391I know that a good portion of the time, when people go to the UK, they have to have purchased their ticket for their return flight home, before they enter the UK. So immigration doesn’t think your planning on over staying, or planning to skip out and live their illegally, mainly for younger females they’ll suspect that your going to try to live with a boyfriend there with no intention of leaving, even searching diaries, social media, and phones in some cases to try to find out your real reason for visiting. And you’re correct, NZ citizens don’t need a visa to go to the UK, and can stay on holiday there w/o visa for up to 6 months. And the UK has tons of goths, so being a NZ goff would never be a reason for immigration to not let you into the UK.
No. 678397
>>678348Online Goth is lately overrun by whinny idiots trying to use "support of trans people" as an excuse for their snowflake roleplays and seeing nazis everywhere - like in this recent reddit thread for example
https://old.reddit.com/r/goth/comments/9c5xjg/wgt_2019/where poster is pretending that Leipzig is no longer safe for goths and in discussion there there was suggested that if you do not agree with that you are far right agent. And of course combat boots and uniform means you are sieg heiling at least 5 times a day…
No. 678415
>>678406I'm not sure of the latest rules, but NZers aged under 27 (it used to be) could stay for up to two years for a working holiday, and heaps of people would extended-dance-mix those two years by constantly going on trips out of the country. If Freyja has a British grandparent - and a lot of Kiwis do - she would have been eligible for a UK Ancestry visa which let you stay and work for five years and apply for residency.
Overstaying might have done it.
No. 678451
>>678394The poor kid is miserable. Look at his eyes in every picture. He looks like he's barely holding on
No. 678463
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This girl must have a magic vagina or something because she's not attractive, and her attitude sucks. Her pretending to be a gay male pisses me off. I've seen a lot of people bullied to wanting to take their own lives just because they were gay and she thinks it's a joke. I hate people like that.
No. 678503
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Adoras makeup is really bad when you look at it closely. I don't understand how a grown woman is comfortable scribbling on her face and gluing random crap to her forehead
No. 678508
>>678481let's see. july 24th makeup and miniskirts. july 30th suddenly decides to go by "he" and pretend to be a gay boy. i wonder if logan and dorian are fucking each other too, ya know, since they're all bois in the house
No. 678527
>>678503Her skin has been blurred to high hell.
It looks like 2D white printing paper.
No. 678536
>>678463If Logan was married to raven, and became dorians step-father, and Dorian married her, then doesn’t that mean that this girl is fucking her father-in-law?
Or did she and Dorian not get married?
No. 678549
>>678406UK immigration story, but I overstayed my student visa by like 10 days because that was the soonest I could get a flight back to the US (I was trying til like the very end to find work basically), and was super concerned about ever being let back in. I go back twice a year to see my partner, and get a barrage of questions every time, which is fine. One of the questions you get asked every time is if you've got a job in yr home country. My guy's bro's ex-gf ended up not making it thru when she came to "visit" because she had no job in her country. Maybe youtube doesn't count as a job the way accountancy does idk, because you can do yt from damn near anywhere. But yeah it's totally possible that Freya also acted like a dick in immigration and got properly deported. She seems the type to be drama about it, even to their faces.
>>678429I'd like to live in Scotland again too because that's where my partner's at, but probs the best way to do this is to be very good at my job so I can have a good employment record and good references, and maybe get more qualifications, keep those dollarydoos saved so I can prove I've got money, and just keep looking for the work opportunities that employers are having a hard time filling. You're right, good career and/or lots o' money is probably the only way in at this point.
No. 678559
>>678530She might be 17-18 now. She was 16 when raven left
>>678536That's exactly what that means kek
No. 678571
>>678570Why don't you ask him then? It's all over her page. I'm so sick of people ruining good gossip by pretending it's made-up. Someone please contact him to verify.
No. 678572
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>>678570Well theres this. Her fb is
https://www.facebook.com/IsaDenneyStrother and this pic has her insta name. His is lunaxrot or something like that. She's listed as poly. Going on dates with him. He verified it. Dorian is a doormat.
No. 678695
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TT and Jake went to London Edge, she looks significantly more "goth" in this photo. Think she has been reading all of her own milk about how she's been dressing like a child recently? Seems like they're making a big effort to be xxGOTHxx
No. 678758
>>678717ah yes, because there is NO ONE as goff as her and Jake in Belfast. kek
has to prove it, esp after that god awful photo of her meetup with Emily and those fans yikes
No. 678768
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I mean its a look i guess
No. 678824
>>678802I'm over him and have been since he blocked me but I see him on Instagram where he didn't block me and he only popped up because he was on my recommended people. He's just as twisted as Diana but the opposite way no way do I want to be involved in this dirty triangle
No. 678835
>>677980I wonder what truly happened with Adora and her ex husband. I think he must have been the one who left because she simply won’t address the issue, and all this happened around the time she met that Ras guy and was always posting videos super drunk (she almost doesn’t do that now), she gives likes to the comments that say that they have gotten divorced and that’s all.
I do think she has something with this Ras dude, they’re kinda the same age after all, it’s hard to figure out from the photo but it seems to be someone with light hair or light colored hair… like Ras.
No. 679633
>>679605No.
You can delete your comment and repost it with the correction, as per the rules.
No. 679739
>>679723I mean, it would be weird if she was wearing it in public as in walking down the street dressed like that, but it was for an event so I would consider a clubwear type outfit appropriate for that (depending on the event ofc), but I've never been to London Edge so maybe I'm talking shit
It's a little risqué but it's miles better than all the tacky pink Hot Topic-esque shit imo
No. 679924
>>678503oh my fucking god! I can't believe people STILL can't fucking understand that in this thread we do. not. care. about grown people using alternative aesthetics such as drawing on their faces with makeup. Honey, I assure you that most anons posting in this thread are alternative, a lot of goths. "Oh my gawd adora's makeupz iz so exxagerated yew guuuys!" is not milk. "Adora just posted a pic on instagram of someone sucking on her tit and she's still trying to create mystery around whom she's fucking. also, where are her kids?" IS milk.
>>678768did this bitch lost a lot of weight? It looks like it. Also, first time I see her looking like an adult goth, not a retarded child who likes my chemical romance and thinks that this is goth is about.
The outfit is cool, I'd just put a bra or a cami under the fishnet top, the x taped boobs is tacky as fuck. Which year is it? 2004?
No. 680579
>>680565Yeah, it just makes me cringe. Going on about hating goth from Jake, and both hating elitists but then wearing what the people they despise wear?
I don't have a problem with TT's weight, but I don't think she's lost anything she's just not wearing loads of layers and baggy clothes for once.
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>>678536They got married it seems, and a month later they got an apartment with Logan, moved in July. As for if she can, she turned 18 this year.
No. 680843
>>680613why so bitter, anon?
it wasn't "obvious", she was connected to the cow and gave us a lot of answers we wanted. I can't speak for other anons, but while I did not fawn over her, I did give her the benefit of the doubt because I wanted things to be better for Dorian. And we really had no reason to judge her otherwise at the time. Shit that has happened since changes the picture a lot, obviously.
No. 680927
>>680613Dorian and Logan are both adults and are in a consensual poly relationship with her.
None of them are eligible to be subjects of this thread. Quit trying to make them subjects and take your thirst elsewhere.
No. 680975
>>680927Yeah anon, because it's perfectly normal to be having sex with your ex stepsons wife. There's at least 7-8 years between them, not too much but considering Dorian was in his 20s and dating a 16 year old who is now dating his ex stepdad it's wrong on many levels. They were family for over 5 years. Notice they got married 2 days after Cravens wedding, I think there's also milk there. I sense a lot of untapped drama here
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>>680843This bitch is a borderline cow herself. "Gay boy"? Get over yourself and grow up, "Isaac". Stop pretending to be a gay guy you attention whore.
No. 681000
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loses a tiny bit of weight
jake:
No. 681001
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Jake liked this post some desperate girl sent him
No. 681073
>>681048Aberdeen has a scene, and local band(s?). Plus all that drear granite has got to be pretty Goth, right?
>>681061Stigmata at Ivory Blacks is where its at
No. 681080
>>681000In order to do that he would have to be goth or alt.
The only thing he could advertise with his image is a pot noodle.
No. 681130
>>680927they've been subjects for a while already mini mod so untwist those panties and move along.
>>680975I'm starting to feel like they're a lot more damaged than we thought, and it is playing out in a fascinating and fucked up dynamic.
>>680982god, wtf happened to her. she seemed relatively together, and now she is going full tard. did she start watching Lainey and decide to skinwalk her or something, jfc
No. 681261
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Is this position really necessary? Why not do other ones that have the benefits of yoga without risking the safety of a fetus? Oh wait, then it wouldn’t an attention seeking photo op.
No. 681283
>>678463>>678481>>678781>>680982>>681130She's been on the poly transtrender train for a while.
https://ramonamag.com/tag/isa-denney-strother/Accusing her of "fucking over Dorian" completely denies him his agency.
No. 681337
>>681288I spoke with her a few times during her time on the thread, feeding her compliments and encouraging her to continue to give us dirt. From the things she said to me, it appears that she felt by offering milk here it automatically made her safe, and the more she gave us the safer and more loved she would be. She embellished dorian's responses and strong armed him into allowing her free speech here by making it out to be their key to never being posted themselves. One day she stopped posting and I wonder if he finally got the balls to make her stop. Imo the whole family is fucked up and deserves to be here. Diana was a horrible mother but she did have a few points when it came to him not wanting to work, shower, or take care of himself. From memory, Isa was bullied out of America for being a pretentious windbag, and Logan should know better than to get himself into another milky relationship. They all deserve each other and I only wish there was more to post about on the whole situation like back in the good days of Gravy-splerge meltdowns. I don't think any of them are innocent in their respective situations
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
No. 681351
>>681337You're a better cow psychologist than me.
I still extend a lot of slack to Dorian because he's had a very neglectful and abusive life, everyone he's depended on has hurt him badly. It's not unusual to emerge as a young adult from that completely apathetic. I'll wager he's deeply depressed. The problems don't go away because the abuser has (see Venus) and when the abuse is this profound and a support system nonexistent, it's a hard road in life.
These guys are gravitating towards a girl who I'll wager is a 'baby Raven'. It's a shitty dynamic they know and feel comfortable with. Raven did the grooming for years then bailed, and Isa can swoop in and exploit these damaged souls.
No. 681389
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>>681386plus her makeup is pretty typical for 80s inspired one
No. 681400
>>681351That's exactly what it seems like she's doing. She's obviously an attention whore- coming here to give dirt even at the expense of her boyfriend's privacy, pretending to be a gay boy, and now having sex with the both of them. She wants all the attention no matter the cost and she's taking advantage of a boy (Dorian) who simply lacks the capacity to stand up for himself out of fear of being alone. She's an abuser-in-training, moving up to be the next Raven.
>>680982Does this mean that Dorian and Logan now identify as gay themselves, and are they also having sex with each other?
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
No. 681415
>>681283He is a man child raised in an abusive situation. His mother mocked him for his skin colour and interests, then fucked and married his high school friend. There is a half truth in raven calling him out, he is mentally younger than his age because of her shit.
You really think that he made the correct choices jumping on the first girl who was willing to house him? He can have his agency and still be in a fucked situation. We know from Raven that he wasn’t ok with the poly life with how she picked up on it to hurt him. But we also know the he literally has no one in his life besides Logan and his now wife. Sadly not surprising he married someone similar to his mother.
No. 681427
>>681415I know he wasn't ok with the poly life but I don't recall her picking on him over it, only getting angry because he pretended she was the one with the issue instead of addressing it himself. All of that was stuff that should have been privately handled.
We all know Raven is a lost cause but I wonder what Isa's excuse is? She's a child who is already on a bad path and who only cares about herself. I wonder if she always had her eye on Logan, and that's why the feud with Raven was started, and as soon as she saw her chance she used the poly excuse to get him and keep Dorian on the sideline, helpless and too weak to speak up against it. I wouldn't be surprised if he kills himself one day. Imagine finally feeling like someone wants you only to have them fuck your ex stepdad right in front of you?
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
No. 681428
>>681276rofl, i love you
>>681261yikes, if he falls on her, he could kill the baby, but whatever, i guess?? She isn't planning to vaccinate him anyway
No. 681440
>>681427She’s 18 ffs
have you met an 18 year old before, they mainly only think about themselves
I agree what she’s doing to Dorian and to a lesser part Logan is terrible, but I genuinely doubt she has the capacity to see how this situation will effect either of them besides short term fights
And why should she? It’s not her job to fix Dorian or Logan. If they disagree with her, or have a problem with their relationships—then it’s up to them to say so and establish their own boundaries
No. 681449
>>681283Her full name appeared in one of the screenshots posted in the Raven thread. I looked her up then and found those articles and more which raised some red flags regarding her speshul snowflake level, but I didn't say anything at the time because anons were in favor of preserving her anonymity.
>>681415As much as I dislike Raven, I am unable to believe that her immaturity, disdainful personality, and abusive nature developed without a childhood of at least some instability and abuse. She made the same wrong choices in relationships, but anons held her completely responsible. Why the double standard?
Alternately, what if it was Dorian taking advantage of Isa, latching onto her primarily as a way of escaping Raven? He could just as easily be following Raven's example of exploiting others.
Do we know that the scope of Dorian's social circle is limited to Isa and Logan? The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
>>681440She has been upfront about being poly and a gender snowflake, so it's not like Dorian and Logan didn't know what they were getting into. Perhaps she pressured them, but they still acquiesced.
No. 681450
>>681000>>681080kek
Didn't he "model" before with TT when they were both significantly thinner? It didn't work out for you then Jake, it won't now. He's so fucking full of himself
No. 681515
>>681449I watched all of her life story videos before she removed them, and her childhood was unbelievably messed up. It's almost inevitable that she turned out the way she is, and also why she's a perpetual child. There's something about her that rubs me the wrong way though, and I feel the same way about her son. Even so, it's interesting to see someone else acknowledge that on here.
No. 681520
>>681449I also did some digging on her at the time and tried to gently discuss whether or not she was as lovely as anons claimed her to be but got shut down, frustrating at the time. So tried of transtrender softboi shit, bitch you’re not a boy, you’re just not wearing makeup. And yeah it’s real heady to have two dudes sniffing after your shit but you’re tacky as hell.
Logan is…whatever, but I don’t blame Dorian for falling into the same trap. He has never really had a parent who would care for him and make sure that he’s safe. Kids like that end up needing years in therapy and even then the problems associated with narc parents can last for a child’s entire life. Sad as fuck and Raven is of course the biggest piece of shit imaginable.
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He does not look happy with his life. She looks like she's 12! What's the appeal? Maybe she decided to be a boy because she can't cut it as a girl kek
No. 681529
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>>681520Logan is a mess
No. 681547
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>>681337She's a narcissistic attention whore, covering herself quickly in tacky tattoos, has poor fashion sense, and is taking advantage of guys that aren't equipped to make the right choice in life.
Raven 2.0 kek
No. 681552
>>681547tbf she could be just as damaged as them, but she also might not be. she's young and i wouldn't completely fault her because an 18 year old is like a 12 yo, in effect, tbh, but all of this is definitely shady and i would love to know what dorian and logan are actually thinking.
it's weird that logan is such a pushover that goes for these weirdo tumblrinas and someone like raven, who, though she isn't a feminist, uses men to the fullest, because he has demonstrated such hatred for feminists, and has said some pretty (iirc) violent/really angry stuff about them. he seems like a very typical reactionary young, very dumb white boy, just one that's saddled with more issues now than most.
strange that he should go for this girl. does anyone know where dorian stands, politically? i'm just curious.
No. 681555
>>681531Sorry but no one knows that for sure, and people who knew her irl have corroborated her stories. Remember a few years ago when she reconnected with a younger sister and her sister had become the one to take her place and got abused once she was sent off. I know we all don't want to give that cow the benefit of any doubt but facing facts she's just the product of her past too. Her problem is she's over 40 years old and should have done something by now to be a better person and do something with her life but she doesn't have any interest in bettering her situations. It's a viscous circle that her son has been caught up in and he shows no signs of wanting to better himself either, and now being married to a Mini-Raven that kid doesn't stand a chance. I hope that he doesn't have any children with Isa/Issac because that baby will be twice as fucked.
No. 681561
>>681531While she was prone to hyperbole and histrionics, nowhere in all of the threads here and on KF was there evidence to refute her having had an unstable childhood and poor role models. Her mother jumped from relationship to relationship and married three times.
>>681547She has at least two of the same tattoos as Raven.
>>681552Look at Logan's mom's relationship history. It has not been the most stable, either: from his dad to stepdad to lesbian. And what drove him to want to escape his family at a young age?
No. 681587
>>681525i just realized she reminds me so much of a white javi marroquin from teen mom 2, kek. like, exact same face.
>>681561>And what drove him to want to escape his family at a young age?i'm sure his childhood was fucked to some degree, too. unless he was just a kid with a raging attraction to middle aged women (happens, but we've seen that he seems just as attracted to young women), no 16 yo boy would've willingly signed up to marry a nightmare like raven. she was fat, divorced many times, with a child the same age, and no ability to support herself. you have to be completely destroyed in the head to marry that, even if she did pressure him. i mean, there was nothing for him in that relationship. he's obviously screwy in the head, but it's so weird how he can justify these relationships considering his politics.
No. 681607
>>681590A narc. Sorry but that’s basically it, I mean, these people can practically sniff a person who’s already been abused by a narcissist out of a crowd. It’s much easier to continually get with and stay with the same type of person for them.
I feel for both Logan and Dorian. Dorian needs to make a clean break from all these people, there’s too much history and baggage there. The girl is nasty imo because she knew how bad the situation had been for Dorian, and chose to repeat it, with herself at the apex of the triangle. Logan is too dumb to know better and frankly I think he was just as groomed as Lainey, but time’s running out on excusing his shitty behavior.
No. 681738
>>681621I agree. All that will matter to her is that Logan has moved on and with someone she hates. It might be enough to finally make her step forward and give us the rage we know is coming
No. 681762
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>>681575His "art" looks like kindergarten scribbles, and by "hanging out with his peers", you really mean fucking his stepsons wife kek
No. 681792
Ibf just uploaded ANOTHER haul. Jesus christ give it a break
No. 682107
>>681960Thank you anon! Goldmine of cringe. I can't wait for the thread and to see what milk will flow from this calf
No. 682154
>>681337>she did have a few points when it came to him not wanting to work, shower, or take care of himself.so, you've never heard of conditions like major depressive disorder, or ptsd? OK then.
>Logan should know betterand you know nothing about psychology, excellent.
All three seem like fucked up units, but one is definitely the leech taking advantage of two very damaged boys.
>>681440it might not be her job to fix them, but what kind of creature do you have to be to create a situation like this? definitely seeming like a mini-raven.
>>681515I hate to break it to you anon, but fatso is a serial liar. all that tragic shit about her childhood was story time, tana mongo style.
>>681555>>681561actually, people do know it for sure, and no it wasn't corroborated kek. sure, she had an unstable childhood. but let's not forget stories like being splayed naked on the bed while guests came over as some weird punishment.
>>681607all of this.
No. 682162
>>681960 'ISAAC' SPARKS / ISA DENNEY-STROTHERS / LOVELY GF (cont'd)
Google+:
https://plus.google.com/102069373046505668124Pinterest:
https://www.pinterest.com/denneystrother/>>682142The direct link worked for me, but when I tried to archive the rest of the articles, I got a server error. Ramona Mag might have archive.is restricted.
(Done with links, I'll post any others in new thread when that kind Anon is done at work)
No. 682193
>>682162Thanks for all the digging you’ve done, anon.
On another note, I think getting the thread up sooner rather than later is a good thing. There’s much to be discussed and honestly, I feel like Raven gets away with murder by not having an active thread. I’m not sure why the thread proposed in /pt isn’t going to be a Raven and her spawn thread, as Isa and her shit triangle is what I’m most interested in right now and not so much Raven herself, but we’ll see, I suppose?
No. 682199
>>682154How do you or anyone else know for sure? I remember it differently and I remember it clearly because it's the only time that I had any sympathy for that bitch, and it was most assuredly supported by her sister
No. 682285
OP anon here. My area has been experiencing a severe weather event with power outages. While I wait it out until I can access the OP files, should we get in agreement with anons on /pt/ thread request regarding the scope and subjects of the thread per
>>682193?
Thanks for compiling links
>>681960. What are Dorian and Logan's accounts? Can you download the article texts as the webpage html?
And an archive anon should back up the most recent videos.
No. 682321
>>682316That was posted on her Facebook around 3 or 4 years ago. I don't like to give cows any sympathy but when I see evidence of abuse or a reason why they are the way they are it gives me pause. That still doesn't excuse their refusal to improve their lives or break free from their situations (which is why they're cows) but some of them have had pretty messed up lives, and go on to mess up lives.
No. 682325
>>682299We'll be out of your hair soon.
>>682285There are no videos on her channel that I can see.
No. 682432
>>682326If you're talking to me I only said that once. I'm not the original person who mentioned it, I just remembered reading about it. A cow is a cow because of their actions but if they had a horrible or traumatic childhood, why lie and pretend they didn't just to keep them at the bottom? Admitting they had a rough life doesn't make them any less of a cow so I personally don't see the harm in agreeing with the person/people who remember that her past was indeed backed up by her own sister
eyeroll
No. 682460
>>682285OP, what’s up, apart from the weather? You have the links in this thread to copy paste into your own thread and clearly you’ve been able to get online to post here, would you rather someone else make the thread? Not sure why an OP post about ‘lovely gf’ can’t be put together and placed quickly in snow to allow us to leave this thread. Not being bitchy but it feels a bit like foot dragging, if you want someone else to do it just say so.
Apologies to the rest of the thread.
No. 682546
>>682460The next OP file is on my computer. Can't post it if I can't turn it on.
Is it to be the next Raven thread in /pt/ or the love triangle thread sans Raven in /snow/?
No. 682639
>>682521Anons seem split 50/50 on whether to include Raven; another group is discussing it on thread requests. I agree with
>>682567.
I always posted the OPs promptly unless anons proposed starving her. I wrote the summaries as the threads progressed so they were always ready.
>>682325The two new videos on Raven's channel.
No. 682667
>>682432lmao keep trying. you were so close.
>>682639then just post the fucking thing and lets get out of here. we've shit this thread up enough, and I have this funny feeling Raven is just busting to get into a thread focussed on the boys and Isa so she can play the victim and only made a few mistakes and see, they were the real monsters!
No. 682720
>>682673Okay let's get moving to the new Isa/Logan/Dorian thread and let the altcows thread get back on topic:
>>>/snow/682714Can you please bring any links or info you can think of over to the thread. The OP is basic but we had to move on, we can fill the rest of the story in with comments.
No. 682757
>>681415>His mother mocked him for his skin colour and interestsLowkey funny to me because he literally gets his skin color from her. Raven lightened her skin and apparently seems to think lightening her skin will stop her original skin tone from passing on to her kid/s.
>>682213Is she getting paid to do this? These videos are so boring, where is the DIY, or at least thrifting videos? Killstar and Dollskill remind me of Instagram "goths" who run in the Soundclout circles. It's no wonder her style is so easy to copy, it's very cookie cutter, sad.
No. 682918
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No. 682995
>>682918>>682918I personally have never thought Drac was goth. She comes off as those girls who "become" alternative to hide the fact that they aren't attractive (like Henrietta from South Park, but I mean, at least Henrietta likes goth music).
Anyone else remember her video for babybats? If I'm remembering correctly, in that videos she was saying you don't have to listen to goth music to be goth, but you just have to "know your shit". It's like a "metalhead" saying "oh no, you don't have to like or listen to metal, you just have to know your shit!".
>>682994She's a Mansonite. Always has been and she always will be, it's probably why her goth facade has been somewhat good, she just came off as someone who has mallgoth styling instead of a poser. I also don't believe the bottom part of her text, she's given glimpses into her music tastes before and "surprise, surprise" (not really tho) it's mostly metal.
No. 683008
You have no right to talk about me or any of my relationships! What goes on in our house has nothing to do with any of you. If Dorian wasn't happy he'd leave, now leave us alone!
No. 683045
>>683044He's not abused he knows exactly what's going on, you people don't have any right to violate our privacy! I'm not going to tell you again you better take down all of my information
No. 683046
>>683008Your selfposts should go in your own thread. Cheers
>>>/snow/682714>>683014She's said she lurks anyway
No. 683051
>>683046FUCK you mate
No. 683078
>>683065I'm not going to give you what you want. This is illegal and I'll be looking into my rights
No. 683086
>>683078apologies to this thread but I need to laugh at this dipshit.
This is no more illegal than when you dumped on raven. and the idea of it being illegal to talk shit about people is fucking hilarious.
see you in your brand new thread!
>>>/snow/682714 No. 683838
>>683517OMG what an entitled ho!
"watching my dreams dangling in front of me… and then to have it snatched away for nothing" like sorry dear but that really makes it sound like you intended to overstay again for another eight fucking years.
I feel terrible for laughing but fuck. UK immigration is a pain in the ass, and it's debateable whether or not they're "just doing their job" sometimes, but she's handled this like a huge baby.
Like you've went into the country with no clear plans, intending to stay for "three months" having overstayed for a long period once already, with no real obligations to return to in your home country, and like idk what yr financial situation is like either but gosh. Sorry but she deserved it.
No. 684305
>>684166Ugh don't give her ideas.
Republic of Ireland is in a common travel area with the UK, yeah, but that just means you get asked questions when you go through border control in Ireland. For me going thru Dublin (it's an easy airport to get around just in general), they always ask where I'm going in the UK, how long I plan on staying, who I'm going to see, have i booked a return flight, have I got a job back in the states, etc. They're a bit nicer about it, although the fact that it's been the same guy at border patrol 4 of the 5 times I've gone that way might have something to do with it, but the questions are still there and you still need to have concrete answers for them. I imagine to just land in Ireland and stay there, or pretend to just be staying there as the case may be to just ship up north, you'd be asked similar questions.
No. 684369
>>682918"80s industrial"
Bitch has no fucking clue who Einstürzende Neubauten or Throbbing Gristle or NON are. Guarantee. Skinny Puppy is great, but you can't say you like 80s industrial if you like one band. Front 242 isn't insustrial they're EBM. Fuck.
She likes stater pack goth and doesnt bother to delve into more shit. Even though i consider fields of the nephilim starter pack goth.
I like trip hop too, but why bring it up when talking about goth? She probably thinks that goth isn't a punk subgenre. Excuse the music snobbery.
>>683530I want her to make a video about that. She's very nice in person, but what a shitty thing to do. At least refund people's money (why did these idiots donate in the first place?). I used to really like her, but now I'm really on the fence about her. Especially since I'm friends with mr. owls ex and aquainted with matthias.
No. 684647
>>684321I think the mod has a hard on for gayboy/poly/snowflake raven 2.0
No. 684652
>>684384Are you really friends with Nadia?
If so, did Mr. Owl dump her without question when IBF decided she wanted him back?
No. 684723
>>684453Oh, fuck. That just recently happened to a friend of mine. Plus his pikes fell apart on me at wgt last year. Cheap shit.
>>684652I am. Basically, yeah. They split up before ibf announced that her and matthias split and she was back with barnaby. She's pretty over the whole thing now.
No. 684962
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Any guesses?
No. 685086
>>684723I’m so glad she’s over it.
It just came across like Nadia was a bench warmer and was dropped once IBF decided she wanted Mr. Owl back. I speculate that there might’ve been emotional cheating between them until they broke up with their respective partners. The situation is just shady all around and I hope that IBF doesn’t find another person that she thinks is better(for a U.K visa) and leaves Mr. Owl in the dust again.
No. 685104
>>685086I don't think IBF's fans will be dumb enough to invest in ANOTHER visa busbando
If she tries it at least it will be funny to see who continues to stan her
No. 685128
>>685086 Yes. I guess it can be difficult to draw the line re emotional cheating if you stay friends with your ex, but there must come a time…
I have imagined it like this:
IBF via messenger: "Things are not working out with Matthias. I think we're going to break up
sniffle"
Owl: O RLY OK.
breaks up with girlfriend So we are both single again gosh… maybe we should reunite.
IBF: I want to but I live in Germany…. what to do what to do… oh what the hell eh.
No. 685149
>>685129She wants a FANCY wedding this time, according to one of the latest videos. Lmao in other words a real one and not a weird registry one with no guests where she cries into her selfie cam the whole time.
Not trying to derail but that video killed me with how freaking awkward it was. I felt sorry for her purely based on the weird disconnected autism of it. I kept feeling like "why not get a CAMERA MAN at leaaasstt UGH" and the priest (???) pretty much told her to please put the stick down at one point.
Pretending, for the sake of argument, that she was trying to pass that off as a real non-visa based wedding, why the hell would anyone ever settle for such an embarrassingly bare-bones wedding. I'm not a showy person by any means but that's the day you sort of want to be BIG and dramatic- goth weddings are the most fun ever- that was just soooo sad.
No. 685152
>>684311>>684321>>684362>>684647Take the discussion to KF, then. They don't believe that Isa is dating Logan.
Oh wait, you failed to screencap the evidence before they locked down their accounts.
No. 685162
Someone that everyone seems to worship is Jessica Lovecat/imastaythatbitch/mizyree (or however the fuck she spelt it). But i cant stand her.
She went from gringo chola to deathrock to some basic cunt with a bolt thrower shirt and leggings. Her personality is working out and getting high. She's such an attention whore. She wants a monogamous relationship, but posts nudes and half nudes everyday. It's clear she just wants male attention. And where does she get her income? She shows off her house and spoopy bathroom, but doesn't seem to work? Child support from her ex? Why has no one mentioned her on here?
>>684962Daddy didn't give her money to buy the latest creepyeha pink harness.
Did she get a mullet? D-beat phase, when?
>>685000I remember someone said she looks like marilyn manson without makeup nack in the tumblr days. I still laugh about that. Even her body is like a square. "I've always been underweight" lol
>>685128There was absolutely emotional cheating going on. It's gonna be fucking awkward when Freyja moves back to nz.
>>685129They're dumb enough. Who ebegs for a fancy wedding anyway? It's so tacky.
No. 685177
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at least there's one thing we know freezer isnt lying about
No. 685212
>>685047>No it doesn't. A lot of people here saw the cow for what she is and are unhappy about the thread being wrongly locked. The fact that they locked their accounts down proves that they were lurking here and possibly posting, and there are screenshots of the convo and pictures to back every thing up as much as was possible, but others saw more on their pages but didn't get a chance to screencap before the lock down. Kiwifarms are retarded for ignoring all the proof that was posted.
No. 685229
>>685212Screenshots such as
>>678572? Epic farmer fail for not capping the full posts to include the "date night" captions.
Without access to their accounts the thread is dead.
No. 685235
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>>685161May I say that I absolutely hate his shitty clickbaity titles in caps. They are all the same.
>THIS HAPPENED>THIS WAS TERRIFYING>THIS DRIVES ME CRAZYetc.
He's trying to make the viewer interested in what's going to happen in the video but these vague titles just scream clickbait to everyone who knows YouTube and bore people as soon as they see them. I'd rather click on his vlogs if he included what the vlog is about.
Funny thing is that this video's title was about them tricking the hotel employees into giving them a room earlier because they acted like tramps and hung around and fell asleep in the hotel lobby lmao.
I'm giving them the benefit of a doubt about sleeping separate because it looks like they were fighting over the couch for a nap. Still strange cause I'd rather take the comfy bed.
They are also such mall goths for literally going to the mall and eating at restaurant chains. Why do they even vlog this?
No. 685292
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How is this
not a milk-laden cow? There's so much there for the taking!
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
No. 685324
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>>685322She posted this shortly after but I haven’t seen anything else yet
No. 685885
Haggraven is back again on yt, time to get the new thread up an running so we don't spam this one to death.
Long update vid with prommisess of more.
https://youtu.be/Km1VgfAmFfc No. 685968
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Kat Von D and Leafar are making a documentary. About their love or their veganism? I don’t know but I already hate this level of narcissism.
Link to article:
https://www.livekindly.co/vegan-kat-von-d-leafar-seyer-documentary/ No. 686045
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I'm new here can I just say how do TT and her waist of time Jake get people to give them money for noting they on twitch now looking for money they not one bit nice what I don't like that they give goths punks bad name and Jake is not goth now he wonts go into modeling dear god if his head gets any bigger last week he was looking to move to London he keeps putting Belfast down but did stop both of them at BBC studio today .they think there only goths in Belfast.
No. 686047
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TT Head big oh god whish she give up on those thighs
No. 686088
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Baby Leafar doesn’t need a documentary, he needs vaccinations! Will they really forgo Vit K? That’ll be a fatal mistake.
No. 686099
>>686045I briefly checked the stream twice within the last hour and they keep playing fucking Linkin Park. This is the same guy that complains his music taste is unpopular. Yes dude we're not in the early 2000's and this music has always been shit and normal people have outgrown it. It's also NOT metal.
They are playing the sims 4 and created uber goth characters (I think themselves), it's super cringey
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Due in November??? Really??? That’s gonna be a huge baby then.
No. 686145
>>686131Without the vitamin k supplement baby has a big chance of dying or being a vegetable.
Kat will blame whatever conspiracy meme she last saw on Facebook instead of herself, milk the media, then repeat the process.
It’s the kids who end up losing in this. People like that don’t deserve to have them.
No. 686154
>>686147Forever mad that because they’re stupid enough to believe in magic and granola it’s not classed as child neglect and endangerment when it very obviously is.
Kat honestly seems like she’s just jumped on the wagon to stay relevant which is even worse imo. She’s gonna refuse to provide an infant with medical care and proper nutrition in order to stay on trend and maintain an audience.
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>>686088I hate that it looks like this documentary seems to be about praising natural home births and shaming mothers who either choose or need hospital care and drugs. I bet KVD is one of those people who looks down on women who had to have a c-section. Like it makes them less of a mother.
No. 686173
>>686166~positive vibez only~
fuck's sake, ppl should know the pros and cons of birth b/c it doesn't always go well and ignoring that won't change facts. the doc sounds fucking stupid, she's acting like the first person to ever have this kind of birth and i can't wait for all the 'uwu look at my vegan baby' posts.
>>686144hey newfriend, you don't have to put your name or email, just sage in the email field if not providing new info.
No. 686182
>>686166Until she needs one, then she’s gonna talk endlessly about how brave and amazing cesarean births are and how that’s like, way more powerful than anything she didn’t do.
Makes sense that she’s becoming one of those women who think having a kid made them magical. She’s fucked up every other achievement she’s made, gotta patch into something to fuel her sense of specialness.
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>>686107Can a knowledgeable anon tell us if this is truly a 6 1/2 - 7 month belly? She looks like she’s about to drop that baby right there on the pavement.
No. 686306
>>686246Isn't it kind of hypocritical that somebody whose entire career has been focused around things that are unnatural to the human body is saying this?
Also, this is the kind of shit that gets people killed.
No. 686422
>>686306Lol, I've noticed this too! People with tats, extreme body mods, and a lot of plastic surgery going vegan because "muh healthy lifestyle", I think most of them are full of shit.
>>686145I'm tinfoiling, but I think Kat is probably going to vaccinate her kid, but wouldn't dare tell her fans, as that's oh so horrible. If she doesn't take vitamins and doesn't vaccinate her baby when it's out, and the kid comes out somewhat normal the poor thing might die as she clearly doesn't know what she's doing from bad diet. Kat will probably be feeding it quinoa milk and soy milk, and not formula either.
No. 686463
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former goth model
or disgusting spotty alien?
No. 686465
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>>686463Don't forget she only goth in Belfast on god when she gos on BBC her head get bigger .I to can't stand them
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>>686463Sorry people I'm new to this she has to be like Kelly eden as did she do something on TV ad other day she post then next TT on BBC she so won't to be Kelly .one day people see true them
No. 686473
>>686298To look like this around the 7. month you need to gain a lot and I mean A LOT of weight from the very beginning of your pregnancy (or even before).
It appears she has in fact gained weight (look at her chin and neck in
>>686107 ) but she doesn't look wide enough in general and her tighs are still pretty small so I'm also guessing she is furhter in than she says.
No. 686504
>>686300I bet she's taking a lot of pictures right now to post in the time she has to disappear from instagram because her baby's birth date is earlier than she announced
>>686463can she visit a dermatologist ffs
No. 686510
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>>685968>>685996These are easily my favorite D-list celeb lolcows. They're both dumb as rocks. Rafael looks like a fifty going on seventy year old junkie, he's younger than Jared Leto but too-edgy-for-thou to try and stay in shape. He has a pancake-assed, pot-bellied, skinny limbed body like some old man, and now that she's all bloated and eating for two, they look like a farmer walking his cow. They don't even need scientology to look like a retard like Tom Cruise, they're their own little cult. And they're going to raise the baby vegan and without vaccinations; that baby will be lucky if it lasts two months. I hope that documentary clears the sinuses of CPS and their baby gets taken to a safe place.
>>686107That is not normal. People who keep their diets in check sometimes don't even show noticeably until they're six or seven months along, some don't need maternity clothes until they're over eight months. She looks full term and ready to pop. That baby won't even get vitK, but she gets to eat whatever she wants? What an abusive cunt.
>>686166She could end up not just killing the baby, but herself, if there's something wrong after birth and she bleeds out. Imagine growing up with a washed up, single dad in his forties who still does the edgy spelling his name backwards thing.
No. 686560
>>686422Going vegan isn't all that bad because at least it's good for animal welfare and the environment, but a lot of the ~natural~ new agey shit that a lot of them get involved in is a scam at best and dangerous at worst, case in point.
>>686510>She could end up not just killing the baby, but herself, if there's something wrong after birth and she bleeds out.If she's creating a documentary then there's a good chance she'll at least be a factor in the death of a pregnant woman or her baby. Hospital births do have their issues, but there's a reason why infant and mother mortality rates have plummeted in Western countries with the advent of modern medicine. Telling women that a 'natural birth' is the only way to go is completely irresponsible on so many levels. And who even gives a shit if a woman takes drugs to not be in excruciating pain during delivery? As long as the baby is healthy then it doesn't make a fucking difference; these idiot granola parents focus so much on things that have little to no bearing on what a child develops into while neglecting the things that actually matter. This is on par with boob nazi shit.
No. 686647
>>686538English might not be her first language?
I was bored watching TT videos, the amount of times she makes excuses for her fingernails being dirty jfc, "oh excuse my nails I was spray painting the other day" "ignore my nails I just dyed my hair" filthy bitch clearly doesn't bathe often and has to lie about it every single time. How hard it is to scrub them clean when you know they'll be up close on camera? No wonder her skin is shit too
No. 687005
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What….the….fuck?!?!?
No. 687119
>>687116>Hi, yes actually you can get a young girlfriend. Breaking news
>Why have an old woman when you can have a sexy young one? I don't get it.Coz muh prefferences? People preffering partners older then themselves is nothing new. Especially for women.
No. 687129
>>687119Its nasty from a relationship aspect, physical aspect and general mental aspect.
Its never healthy and 9/10 has some form of sugarparent aspect to it which again aint healthy and is straight up escorting kek
No. 687267
>>687248she's a retail artist for charlotte tilbury now so she can't really do the goth look for that.
can we stop posting her too.
there has never been any milk on Snowy and it has always felt like selfposting to me whenever she shows up
No. 687355
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Says the guy who listens to Linkin Park. I love how he completely denies that any good pop music exists but he's also someone who hates David Bowie so there's no hope
No. 687385
>>687248> It's just so sudden how much she changed.Sudden? It started around her haircolor change and progressed rather smoothly.
>>687253How is that supposed to be milk?
No. 687392
>>687253Ah yes, the post I was trying to respond to until I got a horrible 5 second ban! Clearly, the farmhands are ableist, muh ADHD! (Pls, no hard feelings farmhands, it's not your fault ik)
On a more "serious" note, I would've enjoyed this video if she had her grandmother gf as the other lesbian stripper (that's what they're supposed to be, right?)
>>687355He probably also listens to shitty metalcore, judging by his band. Even Prayers is better than his band, lmao.
>>687385I was judging based on her Youtube, even so, it seems you're right. It's still weird to me, she used to be super into the tradgoth thing and now she, like an anon in the last thread said, looks like a random unknown beauty blogger on Youtube. Oh well, at least she's happy.
No. 687406
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>>687392>>687248Maybe it's because she's only friends with normies. When you look at her insta there are some photos with them and she always stood out. Maybe she wants to fit in more idk. When she turned platinum blonde it still had 80's tradgoth vibes but now that's gone.
No. 687720
>>687660>>687669I'm probably going to sound like an uber elitist (I really don't mean to), but I find with some people it's obvious sometimes that they aren't authentic, even when it comes down to their style. With Snowy, I felt the same way but ignored it because I thought she looked cool. Also, because she liked the music. But it was always something unauthentic about the whole thing, yeah her room looks ~*spooky*~ with goth icons all over her wall, yeah she likes the music and has the 'look' down (Uh, had) but something was just off. I hate to sound like I'm selfposting as this chick isn't really well known, but I get the same feeling from the IG user tibby_sioux, she's a cute girl but I can't shake the feeling that something is just off. It's the same thing with Erin Micklow even though she seems to like the music, surrounds herself with punks and supports their events/festivals but the whole thing is just so obviously fake with her, she's really just a parody of a punk girl.
No. 687725
>>687660Hey now…Cher is kind of awesome.
(sorry for not really adding to the conversation)
No. 687741
>>687720Ha, I tried to word it so I didn't sound uber elitist, but fuck it. That's what I would've written if I hadn't self censored. One thing that sets my unauthenticgoffdar off is tacky objects and jewellery. Shitty coffins and plastic skull things.
Back to trying to be nice, I suppose it really is a phase for some people.
As for Cher, I don't like her pop but she's hot as hell in Mask.
No. 687756
>>687720>I'm probably going to sound like an uber elitist (I really don't mean to), but I find with some people it's obvious sometimes that they aren't authentic, even when it comes down to their style. Sure, that's true. I'm personally living in a country where rarely anyone dresses stereotypical goth way, even despite the fact that quiet some did back in 80s/early 90s here. Just generic darker "rocker" vibe and some of that crowd are into the scene since decades. None of them is obsessed about the look, yet they will emanate gothness wearing just pink pants. Most can recite lists of goth rock bands in dozens.
The most obsessed about look here are mostly some generic "dark" girls who rarely knows even more than few entry level bands but their wardrobe is always "perfect" and they probably eat black bread only and that sort of things. They typically wear victorian and when asked identify as goths, cruise around most generic dark events and festivals. They mostly disappear from public sight around turning 25, rarely some make it up to 29 years old.
No. 687765
>>687741
>Ha, I tried to word it so I didn't sound uber elitist, but fuck it. That's what I would've written if I hadn't self censored. I don't see anything uber or even basic elitist in what you said. It's normal that for some people participation in subculture is just an episode in their journey trough life.
>One thing that sets my unauthenticgoffdar off is tacky objects and jewellery. Shitty coffins and plastic skull things.Well this depends on time period and general "wealth" of population and of course individual execution of them as part of wardrobe. I'm from poorer part of Europe, so it's nothing sensational to be spotted with artificial jewelry pieces or some cheap imitations of some other accesories, yet some manage to keep them within "punky" context, other don't. On other hand you can look fake even wearing 925 sterling silver, so… not to mention polyester victorian dresses some love so much… yet some manage to look quiet ok in them for some arcane reasons.
>Back to trying to be nice, I suppose it really is a phase for some people.Well, yes. I agree. "It's not just a phase mom" originated because that is indeed a phase for many people.
>As for Cher, I don't like her pop but she's hot as hell in Mask.Well, she also stand(ed) out in nowadays generic popstars crowd even if it's just because 80's had a much higher technical requirements for singers. Lack of digital mastering was much less forgiving than nowadays when you can have no singing voice at all and record multiple albums with proper mastering and management/advertisement.
No. 687923
>>687765Noooo I didn't mean cheap jewellery like that. I mean how they stock up on the crap at Halloween from pound/dollar stores and it looks really try hard and sad, like putting fake cobwebs on their windows. That nasty stuff and they take it seriously.
Wearing rosaries was a big thing back then. Maybe Madonna put goths off because I don't see that much now.
No. 687967
>>687943But isn’t it that he’s a former addict instead of simply mentally ill?
I remember her from the Vampirefreaks times back in like 2006 when she was the most rated and popular girl on the whole site, she stayed #1 for years and everyone kissed her ass, but she was not really that much of a drama person back then, she used to take a lot of pictures with certain goth aesthetic, more going to the melancholic or ghostly gothic style. There were people who talked to her regularly and always said that she was so smart and stuff but nowadays it’s so cringy to see her, read the things she writes, and the way she is, I wonder if she got hardcore into drugs too and her mental health got affected by it, there are too many drugs that actually give you mental issues that you can’t revert.
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lovely shit splatter makeup look, vicky
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sorry for double post but had to share this one as well. her new skull tattoo looks like something from the lesser key of soloman and apart from being super edgelord something always rubs me the wrong way when people get this kind of thing tattooed on their body. probably a dumb superstition of mine but demonic and satanic tattoos are like mere mortals fucking around with big shit we don’t understand idk.
No. 688177
>>688165Ooo anon congrats, I'm due end of November! Agreeing with all you've said here. I never followed her so I didn't know at what dates she said these things but it definitely makes it feel more sus now. Jeez it took till the end of March for me to even find out I was pregnant.
Regarding the gender thing, I am not American myself but have known a lot of American couples to find out much earlier than the 20 mark but that's usually due to a blood test. Maybe among all her hippy dippy granola shit she was able to justify something she'd seemingly hate, in their rush to find out the gender.
Also I really don't agree with dragging a pregnant woman for her size, ever, but basically if this is correct and she's due around the 29th then she's due at the exact same time as me and looks a hell of a lot bigger than me, and I'm not a small lady. Idk.
No. 688196
>>688177Congrats to you as well! <3 I live in California, my doctor said if we wanted the blood test that determined the sex we'd have to pay for it out of pocket. Apparently it's just a small part of a comprehensive blood test and only covered by insurance if you've got a proven family history of certain things. She's very well off, so she may have just paid for it and not thought twice-who knows!
I also agree, not to drag her by any means, especially since every woman experiences pregnancy differently, but she looks pretty big, almost as if the baby has already dropped more in preparation for expulsion. Her belly is bigger than mine and i'm not a small lady either and this isn't my first pregnancy.
More than anything it just strikes me as odd that she's sharing so much of her pregnancy with her fan base but is coming off as really deceptive about when the baby was conceived/due.
No. 688236
>>688100ever since she got rid of her hair she looks like she has a bobble head. also funny how she says she loves it but then complains dudes don't find her attractive. none of her tattoos make sense, she mostly goes for edgy shit for the sake of looks and is going to be a mess before she's even 30
why do ppl care about kvd's concception/due date? for all the bitching that goes on in this thread about non milk, i really don't get why this is such a discussed topic.
No. 688449
>>687406tbh, it seems like since she's spent the better part of the year travelling australia and asia, she's really changed? i mean, she's a young person who was mostly into goth music and some fashion, took a break from the community, travelled, went home and decided to change her life? it's not out of the ordinary for young people who get out of their comfort zone to change. I have never really doubted her sincerity when it comes to what she likes, but people change, anon.
>>687660Snowy has always said that she really likes 80's music and tradgoth music? I mean jeeze, nobody is ever satisfied. Goths who age into the goth scene are called immature tryhards, and those who move on are called posers and fakes. theres truly no way to win.
No. 688493
>>687392>I would've enjoyed this video if she had her grandmother gf as the other lesbian stripper Didn't listen to the music but skipped through the video and had the same thought. If it's Tru Luv then why put a young sexy woman in the video and not grandma? There's also plenty of girls in the comments offering themselves up to Julia. So why has she gone for an older woman a second time?
Should be noted that her first girlfriend in Brazil was a girl her age, and they got hassled in public, which I assume is what the music video is a dramatic retelling of. (nobody died irl)
No. 688712
>>688709Not that anon, but I agree with what they said. She didn't sign a blood oath because she was never part of a subculture. It was all about hair and makeup for her.
>Thank you to who requested this video! I had a lot of fun making it :)So much fun, she decided to do it full time.
Now she's back and itching to do youtube I bet she starts liking ~spooky~ stuffs again.
No. 688769
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>>688449>Goths who age into the goth scene are called immature tryhards, and those who move on are called posers and fakes. theres truly no way to win.How? Not in these threads at least. I've never seen anyone call an "eldergoth" in these threads an immature tryhard. I could see it if they looked like TT for example, as she is an immature tryhard but someone like Angela, for example? How?
>>688712Ugh, it's just so unauthentic. I'm speculating here, but I think I'm right as I've seen this same thing play out a couple of times. Snowy is just a weirdo (not an insult, for my sensitive anons). She likes goth music, she seems to look it, but it's not real. Snowy, in general, is simply a weird girl who doesn't fit in with her normie friends, instead of just being herself and not labeling herself at all she tries to fit in with her surroundings. It doesn't work because it's simply not who she is.
>>688690This is why I don't get posts like this, if she were goth, why is she changing herself just to fit in with her normie friends, surely she would've came to terms with the fact that she isn't normal already? No one has to look like Jonny Slut or Siouxsie Sioux's twin, it's very easy to tone down your look and still "emanate goffness" (lol) when you're actually goth.
>>688485I agree, but not with the retail part. A toned down look can get anyone a job like that, only idiots who have to reaffirm to themselves "I AM DA GOFFESS OF DEM ALL!" by going OTT every day and ruining their skin by clown white face paint and looking like retards in general, aren't going to get a job like that.
>>687756 's >The most obsessed about look here are mostly some generic "dark" girls who rarely knows even more than few entry level bands but their wardrobe is always "perfect" and they probably eat black bread only and that sort of things. They typically wear victorian and when asked identify as goths, cruise around most generic dark events and festivals. They mostly disappear from public sight around turning 25, rarely some make it up to 29 years old.
Is accurate, these OTT people are simply tryhards, they probably look in the mirror daily telling themselves "I am goth, I know who The Cure, Depeche Mode, The Sisters of Mercy, and Siouxsie and the Banshees are. My hair is fried and I have ruined my skin with chalk water, no one is more goth than I."
TL;DR, major goth sperg. Possible elitist? Oh no! Oh well, at least I saged. My excuse is it's 8:47 am, and is about to rain here.
No. 688797
>>688769Anybody who whacks on a "The Cure" shirt and thinks they are suddenly a goth now. The Cure aren't even goth to me, a lot of what entry level "goth" is were considered pop music at the time.
Snowy is absolutely someone who decided that because she doesn't match the Stacey friends that she's now a Goff, which is ridiculous. She blatantly tries to be "more" gothic to humor the viewers, then gets back into her normie gear afterwards.
No. 688898
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imagine giving these two idiots £1000.
you might as well have flushed all that money right down the toilet.
I hate to admit it but Jake really is too good looking for Kaya. She really just does not care about how she looks anymore
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>>688898already putting that £1000 to good use
No. 688914
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>>688899New shows alongside a 'Retractable Masturbation Cup'
>>688898>I hate to admit it but Jake really is too good looking for Kaya. She really just does not care about how she looks anymoreIt's sad because Kaya can look really pretty when her weight is under control, she looks so weird now. As for Jake, he looks kinda chubby so I think he's average. I won't deny it though, if he wasn't a bit chubby and stopped trying to be a metalhead and goth poser I do think he would be more attractive.
No. 688955
>>688914>I won't deny it though, if he wasn't a bit chubby and stopped trying to be a metalhead and goth poser I do think he would be more attractive.That and if he had a complete personality transplant. He might be
just slightly better looking than Kaya on the outside but they're both equally ugly on the inside, tl;dr they're fucking fugly
No. 688960
>>688954Not to mention that blatant misinformation at the beginning of the video.
>I can't pull it off because I'm old and not a tiny Asian girl>lolitas are supposed to look like children and also only Asians can be lolitas lolPlease, just stop.
No. 689021
>>688988Yeah in Europe and the UK specifically it is considered pop/mainstream, maybe not in the US.
Since Snowy is from the UK I can say for sure the Cure are considered semi normie here. Friday I'm In Love and Lovecats are pop/rock mainstays.
No. 689109
>>688948She should have tried a aristocratic style over the sweet style, she actually has the face to pull of the mature more "queenly" looks you get from that style of lolita.
The pale pink and white sweet lolita look is horrible on her,she looks dead (er than normal) I thought she was going to try for a pale goth look or something but I guessed wrong
I wonder if she thinks Lolita is all just cake prints and pink everywhere
No. 689119
>>689109>I wonder if she thinks Lolita is all just cake prints and pink everywhereI think she's trying to escape her past as a weird v-kei wannabe weeb who failed at lolita by pretending she doesn't know anything about it.
>>688948These videos are pointless to me, but they get a lot of views from dumb people on YT so that's probably why she does them. I think an interesting transformation video from her would be a video on how she used to look, like around her Myspace days (it'd probably be just as boring let's be honest)
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I guess Snowy isn’t the only one going normie.
No. 689187
>>689151I mean, Drac just has her look going for her in terms of being part of the scene. She doesn’t like the music as proven here
>>682918So if you don’t have the music or the look, are you a goth or a normie?
No. 689263
>>689102Sweet isn't for everyone but she doesn't look that bad, and lolita brands have released things that absolutely will fit her; plus, if she can afford all these hauls, she can afford a headbow and a blouse secondhand to at least make it look like she tried.
Having seen plenty of people who aren't Asian and don't look "child like" being made over into sweet lolita successfully, I can say it has nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with knowledge of fashion and makeup, but I guess she didn't want to dedicate any actual effort into it.
No. 689334
>>689263She won't be paying for those hauls.
I totally get not spending money on a garment you know you won't wear for anything other than a video shoot.
No. 689357
>>689187>So if you don’t have the music or the look, are you a goth or a normie?No liking of the goth music at all - not a goth. Elaborate complicated style clothing and makeup is just an addition that was created by decades of clubbing events by goth music community and was not that big part of of the scene initially when t was very simplistic mostly. And in many countries outside UK and USA it was mostly about wearing dark toned clothes.
Vidrel - Drac's video from 2015 "Goth for beginners" - presenting her outlook on the definition what goth is in her opinion at the time.
No. 689398
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Says don't trust people who listen to pop music
Likes Evanescence
No. 689402
>>688954Exactly. As someone who has followed lolita fashion for years, there are some legit beautiful brands, esp for gothic lolita. But some reason uninformed as hell people like Freyja think lolita = SWEET LOLITA and nothing else. It's obnoxious and lazy.
>>688960ew, that's so gross. She needs to stop
No. 689488
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>>689357The Blitz Kids of the late 70s would like a word.
https://shapersofthe80s.com/blitz-kids/ No. 689530
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>my beautiful #vegan husband
There's no need to say anything further
No. 689714
>>689398This. When I was newer to the scene, I came across Toxic Tubs and Freezer. Impression was goff = buy stuff. At least Freezer knows her music.
Granted, they were less milky then, but with what's accumulated now (scamming, etc) it's shitty they are the "big names".
No. 689896
>>689357I think IBF's video was better for beginner goths. She went right to the point, we aren't emo, and goth is a music based subculture. Drac's video is unnecessarily long, should've just titled it "How To Be A Goth Poser" tbh.
And damn, I've said it before but it's really obvious now that I'm rewatching some of her videos, she truly is a Mansonite. Even down to her makeup lmao. I also hated that video of hers where she was basically saying you don't have to like goth music, but you have to know the bands so you don't get called a poser.
No. 690137
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Ugh why is he so obsessed with pulling down his pants when he's showing off his body? It's so uncomfortable lmao. I wonder what Kaya thinks. There is absolutely no need for that except you're trying to be sexually suggestive.
No. 690142
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In other news: Freezer finally got her UK visa
No. 690193
>>690137What's there to be proud of here? He#s untoned and pudgy. I honestly think they don't have a sexual relationship at all, it might explain why she found this
>>688914 kek
>>690142Oh god, keep away from us in the UK. Is she gonna dump Mr Owl for a British husband now?
No. 690371
>>690193He looks like he has some muscle, but alas, it is hidden under fat which is fine as you'd assume he's been bulking - but I can't see him ever cutting enough to get the ripped look he wants. These two never seem to eat properly, which is good if you're doing a dirty bulk (kinda) but not if you're after that defined look which Jake seems to think he has going on.
And yes please. The UK does not want Freya back. I wonder how she wangled that one.
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Kaya said on Twitter that she was upset editing her new video because she looks fat in it even though she insists shes losing weight.
The camera doesn't lie Kaya
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Ahh yes. A time of need to fill her empty cupboards. Yet she can afford to goto the uk!
No. 690713
>>690561If Mr. Owl is in NZ, why is she going to the UK? Now I'm sure she's about to leave him again and get a British goth hubby.
New video by ReeRee. Inb4
>SHE IS NOT EVEN GOTHYeah, but she's still alt tbh.
No. 690839
>>690713This video was all about her miscarriages and the one she had a few months ago. Nothing about goth or anything just her mental and where her mind is at from the miscarriage.
As for Friday with her “time in need” yeh. It’s her crying too poor to fill her cupboards with food
No. 690908
>>690512No really, I don’t think I’ve seen worse eyebrows in my life. They make her face look as big as a planet.
But she insists.
No. 690959
>>690903Nothing weird about age gap relationships even if one of them is a child!
She's sticking fast to the stance even in ridiculous cases, it seems.
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I always wondered what irks me so about Dres face… something that made her look just weird. I shopped her face shorter and the difference is dramatic.
No. 691801
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Anyone familiar with this flaming fuckface? Stole this screenshot from a Facebook group I’m in, it’s getting a lot of traction and shares right now. Tried to go to her Instagram but it’s private.
No. 691814
>>691801>skin color is on par with music in importance>being part of a subculture based on music and aesthetic by choice is the same as being born black or tall, or working as a modelWasn't familiar with this rule. I love that the first line in her IG bio is "FUCK OFF fake goths", lmao.
What do the comments look like?
No. 691839
>>691814I saw it in the group Goth, Gothic, Gothics and people are PISSED. But maybe
>>691821 is right because it does seem pretty trollish
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>>691114I tought I'd add the screenshots here. damn they are so greedy. Aren't they sponsored by them anyways? I guess it's never enough.
No. 692103
>>687943>>687967I remember the whole tumblr shenanigans. Had no idea that was her on vampirefreaks. It makes the whole disrocker thing even funnier.
I know she's autistic so she just clings to what everyone else around her is doing. Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't kiss her fucking ass.
I was a heroin addict and then an alcoholic. I had the DTs horribly the first few times i tried to sober up. My short-term memory is fucked up from it and I feel like it worsened my bipolar disorder. I can imagine her drinking doesn't help her mental disorder.
She mentioned being fat at one point. She could have lost weight through tweaking. I know a lot of former drug addicts get addicted to working out.
>>689357Goth is just a subgenre of punk. It was a bunch of homeless kids on drugs who wanted to make punk, but darker. Then new wavers branched from punk. The 90s fucked everything up. From the music to the fashion trends. I cant stand the term baby bat. Was it coined by Jillian venters? i wish she never wrote that fucking book or acted like any kind of authority on goth.
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Here's some new evidence from some old ish milk. Getting proof as the idiots post
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
No. 692173
>>690561I know this sounds like a reach but self-pitying people are eating this "viral" story up right now
https://twitter.com/sheilakathleen/status/1005116845240848385It's definitely a staged attempt.
No. 692508
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Sage for no milk.
For years I wondered why Kaya's voice was like nails on a chalkboard and so bloody annoying, then I realised it's because she sounds EXACTLY like Mrs Hoggett (Farmers Wife) in the movie Babe. Same weird whining sing songy old lady tone. Sorry just had to share.
No. 692542
>>692221What normal person does this? What brain process between them lead to such a stupid fucking idea like "if someone donates $1000, Jake will shave off his eyebrows!" and why do people still follow them blindly?! Even if you disregard these two selfish brats exploiting their fans, shaving your eyebrows off is hardly a big feat is it? He had drawn on eyebrows before in his Jeffree Star wannabe cyber emo days anyway. Apparently it's fucking $1000 worthy.
sage for rant
No. 692879
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>>692221does he actually even like Kaya.
There's no chemistry whatsoever it's really sad.
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>>692879I think he got with her to get some of her fans, tbh. He probably would've got more fans if he was with IBF, but she's actually goth so I doubt she would want a wannabe metalhead/goth poser.
No. 692905
>>692154not a vendetta he's fucking his stepsons wife/husband who thinks she's a guy which makes him and his stepson gay. it's a sick twisted family and i dont understand why you guys aren't jumping all over this circus
(Posted by Raven Sparks. Click for more info.)
No. 692914
>>692879I want to say he was purposely acting miserable because he was about to have his eyebrows off, but he acts this way all the time with her so I genuinely believe that's just how he is. Remember in the Killstar haul video with him where he tossed the clothes at her when he got up to leave? He's such a dick. Is she really oblivious to it or just lying to herself? They're as bad as each other but she's really better off without him
Also I'm not one to attack someones looks but she's REALLY let herself go hasn't she? Not just in terms of the weight gain but her overall appearance, she's just really not attractive anymore. I wonder if it's a result of him making her feel shit about herself
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>>692914>Also I'm not one to attack someones looks but she's REALLY let herself go hasn't she? Not just in terms of the weight gain but her overall appearance, she's just really not attractive anymore. >I wonder if it's a result of him making her feel shit about herselfI wouldn't doubt this at all. When he was still a mallgoff he always looked like her twink little brother. Perhaps he knows this, which is why he's such an ass to her.
No. 693042
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>>692914her biggest problem is how she's doing her makeup these days.
putting thick layers of white foundation all over acne is never a good look.
she's also just older. her skin has aged so everything looks a bit cracked and weird
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sad that she was on her way to having a pretty successful modelling career if she worked harder
No. 693071
>>693042holy crap what a difference, she used to be so pretty
>>693063The shaved sides just make her look larger, as do the shorter eyebrows she insists on drawing. She looks a lot better with her hair down and longer eyebrows. That extreme cat eye look doesn't suit her either. I know people can do whatever they want if that's what they like but she is always complaining about being fat so why does she do everything that accentuates it?
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When you’ve got no control over the angles.
And fuck are her teeth just as bad as ibf
No. 693288
>>692905You need to stop posting this stuff in this thread, no-one wants to read about it here; go to Raven's thread if anything
>>>/pt/573602 We had a specific thread for the Isa situation but staff locked it due to vendetta posting, and who knows that's probably what you're doing.
No. 693344
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I must just have really delicate feet. HAHAHA this made me cry.
No. 693355
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BUY A STEAMER YOU AMATEUR!
No. 693359
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WTF
No. 693363
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This is my favourite part.. the tag hanging out of the back of the jumper. The level of care is below anything one would hope not to video. Has anyone noticed how she models and stands like she's being frisked by police or something? Her arms hang out to the sides like she's a scarecrow. Who does that? Then she stands showing each side like a police lineup about to get her mug shot taken. I'm crying.
No. 693408
>>692879He has that same dead-eyed look as Logan. He's to her like a pink toy poodle is to an aging rich divorcee. Poor accessory boy.
>>693042She's fat and dumpy, it's not just her face that is sagging. Good goths, or goths that age gracefully, tend to be boney. The meatiness of her throws off the look. Goths need cheekbones.
>>693051If by modeling you mean porn, sure.
No. 693449
>>693264Uh why her though? She bashes Belfast and actual goths all the time
>>693363Well, I mean, she's just trying to show how the garment looks from every angle which is fair enough, but she doesn't have the greatest posture nor does she even try to make herself or the clothes look presentable. Showing the clothes in motion, or even a lookbook, would be better than her frumpy ass just stood doing a 360 degree turn…
No. 693472
>>693276>And fuck are her teeth just as bad as ibfMeaning not bad at all, just natural.
You amerifats are really ridiculous with your thinking that artifical whitening means "good teeth". kek
No. 693662
>>693472Hey Dorian I thought you hated lolcow.
I am inclined to believe this is him though. Between hating fat people as much as everyone else in this forum and his recent tyrade on insta about how obsessed Americans are with basic good oral hygiene, I gotta say I really believe this is him.
(Hi cow) No. 693703
>>693472Australian and no. They’re fucking bad and it just shows how much she edits her EVERYTHING. And honestly, if you’re teeth are THAT yellow, that’s just poor brushing mate. Goto a dental hygienist and get a bloody clean.
Even the side angle was horrible. Didn’t know how bad her acne actually was
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No. 694108
>>693264Lol at the top comment on BBC's YT channel video.
VIAGE LÍRICO says:
>BBC is covering everything. Next time they will do "How porn movies made" No. 694288
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Just gonna leave this here
No. 694603
>>694489She needs to size up, she would look so much better.
Her hauls are depressing, make an effort, get out of the house and show us how the clothes move, how do you style them?
No. 694652
>>694409TT uses the word 'cute' 19 times in that video.
Someone needs to send that bitch a thesaurus in her next haul.
No. 694654
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Is she fucking serious? Can't even be bothered to straighten her bow / collar or at least reshoot when she realised they needed fixing?
Why the hell are these companies using her to showcase their clothing?
No. 694875
>>694654Is that a dress or top? It looks too small for her either way
>>694663She's just lazy. As long as she gets free stuff she doesn't care about making an effort or being totally honest about the products she gets.
No. 695014
>>694610>>694313Breaking news, humans (women included) have armpit hair.
FFS, can you stop your look nitpicking? You not liking makeup, teeth, hair whenever possible, nails, toes, fingers, tongue, brows, eyes, tattoos, shape of etc have nothing to do with the matter of this thread, board and even whole farm.
No. 695312
>>695014Love it how you think this is one person.
I hate tts teeth. Another mentioned some ransoms underarm hair.
But now that you’ve had an autistic fit about people’s opinions, get that shit lasered.
Why must you insist on being unhygienic??
This is a board to bitch about people and it’s clearly getting to you. Maybe, Iuno, fuck off??
No. 695340
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Imagine making a 17 minute video asking your viewers to buy you things off your amazon wishlist. she was cow even back 4 years ago.
A lot of people seem to think that TT and PeachMilky are both sweet, nice people but their both really bitchy and mean. PM is great at hiding it but once she has a few drinks in her she shows her true colours. TT used to post on hate forums making fun of fat people so we all know what she's really like.
just makes me angry that people still donate and buy things for TT when she's the least deserving person
No. 695445
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The amount of photoshop. How? And why?
We know what her face looks like. I just don’t understand
No. 695759
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>>695436before she got her nose done she was really shy and quiet. she saved up every bit of money she ever got from the age of 8 or something to pay for her nose job.
After she got it done she changed into this different person.
She is friends with TT for a reason. they thought they were the hottest things walking in Belfast. PM is a gamer so she thought she was so special and Kaya being a goth she thought the same thing.
anyways these days PM make fun of all the guys who obsessively send her money and gifts over Twitch. She thinks they're all creeps
No. 695909
>>695595I mean I agree with him that goth makeup tutorials are dumb, probably why IBF has clones roaming about as she gives them tutorials on how to look just like her. I would rather get inspiration from ancient art or a different culture lmao.
But an 18:28 video of him rambling and then to end on a "gawd not real (tips fedora & vapes)" mini sperg? I kek'd. And are we going to pretend dude didn't look like the dollar store version of Nik Fiend? Anyway I wish Cemetery Confesssions was just as unapologetic like this dude, sometimes they seem like oversensitive fags over there.
No. 696153
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>>694108I'm just always disturbed that her face is so saggy and her double chin so out of control. I don't get why. I weigh much more than her and my chin doesn't sag like that, she's not even that chubby.
No. 696184
>>696153she needs to stop doing her makeup like this because it only highlights her new penis-shaped head more
and does she just not have eyebrows anymore?
No. 696445
>>696153>I weigh much more than her and my chin doesn't sag like that, she's not even that chubby.1.You look less chubby from your POV than from the side
2.Everyone store fat in individual way.
3.pale makeup + strong light from the side = well visible shadows due to the contrast
No. 696452
>>696153still can't believe that's how she did her makeup to go on BBC.
I'm pretty sure Jake thought that he was going to be on this too. he seemed really hyped about it before it got released. must suck that he has such an ego but is always in his girlfriends shadow
No. 698127
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Are you ready, kids?
No. 698278
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I've been following this insta model Mary De Lis, and she is really naturally pretty and makes decent photoshoots, but yesterday she posted this, and well, no comments.
No. 698354
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>>698278>>698280Usually, fat people's heads are the smallest thing on them, (unless they're Tammy and Amy Slaton) proof of that is the fat girl angle, shoulders up you can't tell they're fat. But with Mary De Lis, if she does a fat girl angle, she looks fat when she's actually not. Odd.
No. 698568
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Begging again
No. 698824
>>698568bitch doesnt have a job and we KNOW she doesn't keep house, so what the fuck is stopping her?
>>698812idk if I'd say that is the difference. Say what you want about IBF, she knows how to film decently, has an actual education in film production, and is engaging w/ her viewers.
No. 699336
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Stuff of nightmares
No. 699348
>>699339Have you seen a dog with brows? Plus why shall they care about putting brows at all? Isn't punk that they aspire to be (yes, goth is punk genre) supposed to be about not giving a fuck actually?
Appearance nitpickers are cancer.
No. 699404
>>699348>Have you seen a dog with brows?And you call us nitpickers, kek
>Plus why shall they care about putting brows at all? Isn't punk that they aspire to be (yes, goth is punk genre) supposed to be about not giving a fuck actually?Uhm, no.
No. 699697
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Who fucking guessed it?!
She’s on a “mission”. Guess she’s moving to Ireland! Hopefully they don’t allow it
Does she mean finding some to legally marry and live with again?
No. 699834
>>699758This. Freezer even said they split in the first place bc she loves travelling and Owl doesn't. Seems she still wants to travel, but now Owl is her free safety net if she gets stuck.
Is Owl a doormat or?
No. 700093
>>699697She is so weird , I don't feel like she and Mr owl are going to marry honestly, and it wouldn't be surprised if she starts a new life (again) in another country, she just seems to hate to live in NZ, , she makes such impulsive life choices, "im going to live in Germany"," I'm going to marry this guy that I barely know","I'm going back to my ex", mmmm better go and live in another country again, seriously at this point I won't even be surprised if she gets back with her ex or starts a new relationship with some other random ass goth guy in another country , it seems like she can't live in one place for too long
No. 700225
>>699336Looked how how annoyed Jake looks.
God Kaya is so ugly even with a dog filter hiding most of her face.
I couldn't imagine looking at her acne covered face for hours on twitch
No. 700266
>>700225She used to take care of herself somewhat, but after getting fat that went out the window.
Can't post pics atm but she has some on her old blog:
http://xtoxictears.blogspot.com/?m=1 No. 700290
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>>700266Lmao, this can't be Jake, is this him?
No. 700533
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Don't spots only leave scars when you pick at them? she only uploaded a picture the day before yesterday and her skin looked awful so I'm not sure what she's on about here
No. 700741
>>700280>>700122Visa Marriage part 2: gothicboogalloo.
Bitch has to realize that moving across countries and dick hoppin isn't going to fix Whats wrong with her. The problem is her anxiety and emotional state built on shallow validation. The problem is inside her.
No. 700894
>>700741She doesn't even know she has a problem, just tries to fill the hole with goffic guys (in both senses kek… Or does she still claim to be ace?)
She needs something to slap her and wake her up, or she won't stop. Will she get that in Ireland?
No. 702589
>>702493Dunno if "just for aesthetics" but some of them mentioning their practices that contradict their declared world views - like declares being against the christianity and into certain indoeuropean pagan form, yet summons angels and incorporates some practices from religions quiet far away from Europe and India.
The main question remains what for? What is the aim of their rituals?
Summoning entities (I don't mean regular religious practices) for achieving goals is quiet advanced level that can get even long years (meaning longer than some of altcows are alive) practicing occultists hurt. Imagine damage to someone who just started interest in occult just few years ago at best.
No. 703074
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lmfaoooo Freezer blacked out her face but not her hog body? Why even show yourself at all? God she goes on and on about "keto" and "losing weight" is it possible she was an even bigger cow than this?
We can't tell it's you, Freyja. I personally thought it was the Monolith from Kubrik's 2001: A Space Odyssey
No. 703503
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Awful outfit confirmed
No. 703561
>>703503is that the only outfit she owns?
those stupid pink shoulder ruffles is all she ever wears.
she gets sent free Killstar clothes constantly
No. 703563
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what the fuck is up with Jake's shoes??
No. 703574
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No. 703576
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she photoshopped the photo
>>703574sorry here's the original
No. 703579
>>703576ahaha omg, nice try kaya
wonder what jeffree thought seeing that pink beast
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>>703576>>703604Holy shit, how tall is she?
No. 703635
>>703625Not when you have a “vegan husband” with a “vegan child” and confirm yourself as being anti vax. After Kat confirmed she was anti vax, the hate shifted to her and rightly so!
Saged for ot and put your tumblr butthurt somewhere else
No. 703667
>>703635Oh, you want some milk on KVD?
Well if you’ve got the time to listen to a two part podcast of her and her gangbanger husband then here you go:
http://www.informedpregnancy.com/listenFrom what I can discern is:
Rafael/Leafar always plays the victim. He’s constantly being fed words by KVD cause he’s not eloquent at all.
It’s clear that he trapped her by getting her pregnant. Kat didn’t want kids until she found out she was pregnant. Did he mess with her birth control?
Rafael says that he’s working on his relationship with his daughter but from both their social media that seems to be a lie.
The worst part of the podcast is that they spread the misinformation that hospital births are horrible and nasty while home births are safer and almost a heavenly experience. They practically shame mothers who choose/need to have hospital births.
p.s If you’d rather talk about how tall Kaya is because she wears platforms on top of her natural height instead of discussing how she openly supports someone who is a known and proven despicable person; I can see myself out.
No. 703792
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things i didn't need to know. so is this an all the time thing, b/c that would be super gross after the gym.
No. 703917
>>703681
>TheGothicAlice is a witch who seems to pander to trannies occasionally on her blog I din't knew she has anything to do with witchcraft
>(can someone into this stuff explain this? Doesn't sound really natural for a dude with fake tits to join into a mostly female thing, why are they accepted in witch circles?),Wiccans are divided on the subject depending mostly on "denominations" as they created quiet few branches during the decades since wicca originated. And not wiccan nut just self proclaimed witches think about such subjects whatever they want.
>the others like Kaya think it will make them seem more gawffik because Fairuza Balk in The Craft was a Goff witch. I see
>IBF and Angela don't claim the title, they just like spooky stuff.Yet their interest seems to be at least little bit more than just interest in spook.
No. 703959
>>703951His ex hairstylist recently leaked texts where he called a black woman a n
* and a gorilla. The texts were from sometime last year.
No. 704073
>>704021I know it's be cowtipping but it'd be so funny if someone catfished him using pictures of a girl that kind of looks like Kelly Eden.
Just stroke his ego for a while and he'll totally go for it
No. 704075
>>703951Within the past month he shot his holiday ad campaign where he wore cornrows and grills. Not a good look for someone trying to distance themselves from their racist past. Besides that, a 19 year old should know not to chase strange women down a street calling them N
**r.
No. 704112
>>704084That's your opinion. We see it differently. In any case, no need to come here like a douche and say magic isn't real like you'd be able to know for sure.
>>703917I really doubt it goes beyond the aesthetic, they probably just see anything related to paganism as fitting for their goth aes. It's just the spook.
No. 704113
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Jake's photo with Jeffree.
No. 704263
>>703792>>posts a pic trying to show off ass>>has no assHe's so thirsty for compliments like he knows he's shitty and can only scrape the bottom of the barrel for them.
No wonder he stays with TT, her low self esteem must make him feel great.
No. 704416
>>704243Wot. This is the first time I’ve said it in this thread. You mean someone else, pls try to recognize the correct poster next time. Always remember, this is an imageboard. Do you get offended by terms like newfag, samefag, or normalfag, too? If not, why get offended by “tranny”?
>>704112Pretty sure I recognize that poster, that dude selfposted a video of himself last month.
No. 704773
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>>704730I've seen that fendi hoodie irl. It's not as saturated.
He fucked with the photos saturation a lot to make his skin and eyes paler and the black blacker. That's why Jeffree looks like the devils incarnation.
Pic related, couldn't find the exact same one but this is what the colour is irl.
No. 704804
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I know this meet up happened a while ago but I came across this and was shocked at their behaviour. They have NO right to say alternative people are treated badly when they do this kind of shit to strangers.
No. 704915
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Well now we know where all her hauls go.
No. 705003
>>704975I think she lowkey wanted to show off that she has so many clothes.
But that's stupid, since she doesn't wear them or even sell/do giveaways. And yet, she always wants more. Lazy and greedy.
Remember when she was hyped to make the attic a recording studio? Well now it's just a storage room for hoarder Kaya.
I wonder if Jake hoards as well? Or if he puts up with it for his e-"fame"?
No. 705054
>>704915I'm curious to know how much she spends at the Laundromat. They always seem to be there in Jake's videos. and they have to pay to have an uber bring them there and back.
it would be extremely strange if their house didn't have a washing machine. It's pretty much in every house and apartment in ireland.
is she unable to do her own washing…oh wait don't answer that I already know the answer
No. 705434
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Shes calling this home instead of NZ where she grew up and lived most of her life and her "true love" old fiancee/recycled bf is. I really hope she ends up overstaying her welcome for some new juicy drama or perhaps reunites with her "abusive" ex.
No. 705519
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At least we know for a fact she’s staying with other random people. I honestly do wonder how long it takes for her to hook up with some old bf and “realise” she loved them all along
No. 705526
>>705434D-did she take a flight from Ireland to Scotland, seeing as they won't let her in at Heathrow?
She always has a cunning expression since she rekindled things with Mr Owl.
No. 705554
>>705526She DOES, though! I think she once described Mr. Owl’s name as “fitting, because owls are very cunning”.
Could just be the way she draws her brows, though, but lord does she look smug.
No. 705586
>>705519So instead of a hotel she just shacked up with a random fan, who'd obviously accept because "omg muh goffic kween!!"
Oh and TT, looks you're not the only goff in Ireland after all.
No. 705668
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I noticed Jake feels the need to video tape his good will. Why? It's actually pretty low to do that. Imagine if that homeless person could see his video… despite giving to the homeless. Why video that? Idiot.
Most sincerity doesn't need proof but he obviously wants people to know he's a good person… But still brags about getting a skull bag from Kreepsville at wholesale - WHO CARES!!!
I love how he paused when Kaya wanted to stop for waffles… hahahaha he must be so over it.
>>705434Get into that take out Freya… MacDonalds? Hows the keto thing going? Its a good look - black victorian and a brown paper bag eating on the street.
>>705519Vamp Annie has been climbing goth celebrity for a long time. She's all about the clothes and not much else. It's pretty obvious now she's managed to offer a place for IBF to stay. Hey I look almost famous and Freezer gets a place to stay (for free)…. why are we not surprised by her ability to leech?
No. 705846
>>705668Oh god did he actually shove his big camera in that poor man's face. I bet he only gave him 20c too. Looks like a small amount of change in his fingers.
People who film or take pictures of themselves doing good deeds are so full of themselves and are really shitty
No. 705871
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>>705668Notice how he will ONLY respond to comments that aren't positive.
No. 705877
>>705872What I imagine these two do all day…
Kaya - stuffs her face with junk food then cries about how she can't lose weight
Jake - admires himself flexing his fat ass in front of the mirror
That takes up a lot of the day anon!! They have no spare time for such luxuries as washing their clothes. I bet they hardly wash themselves too.
No. 705891
>>705871The commenter even added "apologies jake" but he has to whine even more, as usual.
No wonder they have 0 time for basic chores/hygiene, they're too busy whining about doing it.
I feel sorry for their cat, and the 10 other pets TT showed once and never menioned again.
No. 705936
>>705871he only gave the homeless man a pound.
isn't this the same guy that got £1000 just to shave off his eyebrows?
No. 705938
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the peak of goth fashion right here
No. 705944
>>705942that's why they're full of holes.
she wants you to believe it was done by her but it's obviously from wearing too much kek
No. 706063
>>705942This whole outfit's been over-used to oblivion. I've seen this skirt, tights and dumb armbands so much it's like she forgot about all her hauls.
No wonder her other clothes rotted in the attic…
>>705891Yeah the snakes are probably dead. As for the cat, I'm surprised she doesn't milk it for YT videos.
No. 706204
>>706114She had those furry things from her cyberpunk days.
Kek she'll take care of years-old clothes but not new stuff…yet she always wants more?
This is legit a hoarding addiction.
Now combine this with fickleness. She's always said, she gets into something then drops it quick. E.g.
>>706074Her house will be a storage shed in no time.
Now to all that, add junk diet, Ubers, and Jake.
How tf does she fund it all? YT/freebies. No wonder she e-begs for basics.
Not a great way to live. But she's lazy (bitch whines about the washing) so doesn't want to change. And Jake is a douche, no help from him.
This cow won't change any time soon. We'll just have to wait for her YT to decline before she lifts a finger to self-improve. Rip.
No. 706703
>>705519I think Annie is going to hate IBF after this, I bet Freyja won't even get a job while she's living with her.
>>705668>Vamp Annie has been climbing goth celebrity for a long time. She's all about the clothes and not much else. It's pretty obvious now she's managed to offer a place for IBF to stay. Hey I look almost famous and Freezer gets a place to stay (for free)…. why are we not surprised by her ability to leech?I noticed it a bit while lurking through her IG, she has tagged quite a few Instafamous goths who usually have nothing to do with what she's posting, what does one get out of being an e-famous goff? Does Annie have a Youtube? I think she's mentioned it before, but I can't find it.
No. 706892
>>706204I think you got the anon links the wrong way around there, friend.
But I agree, she has quite the collection. Instead of e-begging to fans she should do them give away. Well, after cleaning the clothes.
No. 706915
>>706703>>706721Annie does seem to be chasing that instagoff fame, IBF makes it look easy. Talk to a camera and get free stuff. I bet Annie was the one who reached out to her, for uwu fame tips or something.
And yeah IBF will probably just do vlogs, and leech off her.
But will Annie mind, as long as she can brag on insta?
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Adora. That is so cringy and needy. Also, her kids must be very proud. This is a public post, so everybody can read this.
Whenever Adora posts those „I‘m oh so sexual“-posts I cannot stop thinking about Stifflers Mom.
No. 707309
>>707270Yeah afaik Friday doesn't have rewards apart from blog posts/showing a video early. Plus she never paid people back who funded that cancelled wedding. Yet, she still has many patrons. And one of the tiers is £500 a month.
TT and Jake's only "reward" is a private discord chat. They did some uncensored Sims porn thing too once, no mention of it now. Jake even said a porno of his and Kaya's sims wasn't off the table. I hope it didn't happen.
No. 707334
>>707312Dorian has been happier and healthier, regularly posting a mix of stories, woodland adventures, and hauls. Is she the only one to have purchased everything she reviews?
Sadly DogDog died a few months ago. She has deleted her videos which included Phryne and videos about the abuse in her family.
No. 707341
>>705519>>706915Notice that Freezer doesn't thank or @ Annie on her own Instagram.
>>706721She was staying with her in Dublin.
No. 707623
>>707334At 5:30 in the new video Dorian happens to address the mass deletion of videos from the drunken disaster period of last year and denounces the "relationship".
At 21:40 "Weirdness" at Tesco's.
No. 708110
>>708018She could give items she doesn't use to her fans, but instead does the opposite and e-begs them for stuff.
She always links her gargantuan Amazon wish list, too.
https://tinyurl.com/yce7p5xsI did a Sort by priority high-low, on top was basic shit like memory cards (buy that yourself?). Sort by price high-low, there's a kid's doll for £148.
No. 708680
>>708018
>"I don't love everything in this haul"Yeah but you'll keep it all anyway. How does she move around in the sea of unused stuff, when she is bothered to move that is.
And kek when she shows the clothes:
>"they're wrinkly cos i hate ironing">"this is wrinkly they must've sewn it wrong" No. 708861
>>706915I've been following vampannie for a while and she seems to have racked up followers pretty fast. I'm almost sure she started her account over from scratch either the start of this year or last year and she's up to nearly 25k again already just posting photoshoots to insta.
Apart from being fame hungry, using heavy blur on her photos, and being a little oversharey about her BF I'm not sure if there's much milk there, but I'll stay tuned and see if anything notable happens.
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How has this not been posted yet
No. 709250
>>709240I was literally just about to lol
I hate how Kaya is trying to be “the cool girl” and allow Jake to thirst on Instagram. He’s so gross and disrespectful to her. What is he even trying to accomplish here?
No. 709260
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Yours for a mere 90 Euros.
No. 709368
>>709277They have no money for basics, which is what they cry about, because they keep doing shit like this. But instead of saving up, they keep doing impulsive pricey things and so keep whining.
They have no sense of looking after money.
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Didn't he have this as one of their Twitch goals not long ago?
No. 710104
>>709250sorry samefag
>I hate how Kaya is trying to be “the cool girl” and allow Jake to thirst on Instagram.I don't even think it's that, I think she just doesn't care. They don't seem into each other at all
No. 710107
>>709240when's this deadpool video coming? he raised £500 to make a video with the suit not to make me fucking gag with gross pictures.
he shaves his pubes too it seems
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Oh, wow. I don’t know what to laugh at more.
Looks like we will be seeing more begging and hauls from jake! Worst part is, I can see him actually wearing the clothing compared to kaya who just complains the entire video
No. 711280
>>710603Got paid to shave eyebrows, got sent black clothes, and suddenly he's goff again.
What happened to "I hate the music but I'm a goff cos i said so"? Now it's the clothes i guess.
Maybe he'll copy TT and become a begging haul channel kek
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I wonder if tt is jealous and this is why she has become such a mess?
He loses weight and she can’t
No. 712235
>>712192They both live unhealthily tbh, and yeah that includes their relationship.
They live in the same house though, to really break up she'd have to throw him out
No. 712289
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If my S.O were to be thirsting like this on Instagram, I’d feel extremely disrespected.
No. 712783
>>712744She is definitely moving here. Good she's trying to get shit together after Germany, but what if Edinburgh is just a repeat of Germany?
>>712570>I didn't vlog because i didn't have makeup and my hair wasn't doneYour sooper goff image won't be tarnished if you're not dressed to the nines every day…
No. 713111
>>713080Exactly the same with her, though.
And you can study in Scotland. I have no idea what he's studying but there are programmes you can get into as a foreigner.
No. 714275
>>714060
>posts a bitchy reply to duplicate comments that resulted from a known technical issue>doesn't delete bitchy comment after duplicates deletedThe site has been glitching for two weeks now. Posts don't go through so users try posting again and again resulting in multiple posts when the site comes back.
If you are so offended by duplicate comments that were posted due to a technical error, lodge your complaint in Meta.
No. 714918
>>714903She keeps insisting both in swedish and english that she isn't with Simon, She kisses friends for shock value but not because of feelings and generally skirting around acting like her and simon really are just regular old platonic friends.
Adora can suck my ass first of all until close to when your (ex)Husband was found as single on fb its gone from her grinding on the chick she did music with to posting about male centric attention like post sex selfies, fuckiny skinny dipping with simon, general increased amount of sexual themes and thirst as if shes free of something.
Friend is a nice word for fuckbuddies when you have a fandom you can't decide if you wanna show them every nasty aspect of your cooch or nah.
I am however lowkey glad it seems the husband spends most time with their kid considering she acts like a mall goth cept refers to herself at "old lady" once in a blue self aware moon.
No. 714939
>>714918He is also in most of her instagram materials, even when she is with kids. If for some reason they are really not fucking each other (so far she did everything to suggest that they do) what is his role in her life? That's really curious case.
>>714928
> He looks kind of uncomfortable whenever she gets too sexualHe also does not seem to protest. If one side is uncomfortable some borders need to be drawn.
IMHO not actually fucking but making allusions that she does fuck all these guys (I have no doubts that she turns on many guys even in their 20s) is nowadays more shocking than actual participation in sexual activity even with all of them at once. Because it suggests it's all done for attention for a sake of attention.
No. 715368
>>715026She has three. The oldest is 15 if I’m not mistaken, the middle one must be 12-13 and the boy is the youngest one. Her oldest kid is the one who seems to be super annoyed by her all the time and apparently she was the one who told someone on IG that her parents were divorced.
To be honest I’d be pretty ashamed of my mother thirsting after guys who could be my brothers. And all the “I only take big dick” references together with her favorite sexual poses. I wonder if she’s permanently drunk or some shit.
No. 715377
>>715026She has three. The oldest is 15 if I’m not mistaken, the middle one must be 12-13 and the boy is the youngest one. Her oldest kid is the one who seems to be super annoyed by her all the time and apparently she was the one who told someone on IG that her parents were divorced.
To be honest I’d be pretty ashamed of my mother thirsting after guys who could be my brothers. And all the “I only take big dick” references together with her favorite sexual poses. I wonder if she’s permanently drunk or some shit.
No. 716305
>>715869Well that link currently goes to a picture of her make up. Post the image next time.
I think the image you want was of both her and coalcandy skinny dipping somewhere taking pictures. Legit, who is she fucking? Or all of them?
No. 716308
>>715869Well that link currently goes to a picture of her make up. Post the image next time.
I think the image you want was of both her and coalcandy skinny dipping somewhere taking pictures. Legit, who is she fucking? Or all of them?
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this randomized clickbait ad was too real.
No. 717413
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Any idea who's hands are on her boobs? She's shying away from discussing it in the comments and even going so far as to (poorly) cover up a tattoo that could give the person away. It doesn't appear to be Simon (Coalcandy)
No. 717966
>>717413There is also the upper body of the „boob-holder“ visible. Are you sure this is a guy? Also, there is a ring on the persons finger, where a wedding band would go. Considering the shape of hands and probable wedding ring it could be Gabriel aka SirPlague, as he is married. But he doesn‘t habe a tattoo on his underarm.
To be honest, I don‘t think that Adora is fucking any of these guys. I think she wants people to speculate about her wild sex life and that‘s all. Wouldn‘t be suprised if she hadn‘t had sex in years. Just remember: this is the woman who let everyone to believe she had daily sex with her husband and that they never had a fight in their relationship und a second later they were divorced.
No. 717970
>>716413So a link is posted to her make up and crap on about her having a boys body??
Did you have a seizure?
No. 718587
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What the heck is a work therapist? Also, do you think Adora started working on a regular basis or is this just her annual job at the Halloween store?
No. 718611
>>717966I think she is dating Ras and maybe some fwb with coalcandy. I also think she was doing it
before the divorce. I think she slept with the guy she is in a band with (not Simon), then posted pictures of bruises all over her body and black wigs for a week and said she wanted to be "ugly". I think this was when her husband had enough and had angry sex = bruises and she had a crisis. I never saw bruises before or after that. 6 months later they're divorced.
I don't think she slept with Simon before the divorce though, their relationship is different now.
No. 718627
>>718611Ras states on his facebook page that he is single, but of course he could be lying.
Also Adora once wrote that her husband was totally vanilla and that she would like it a little bit rougher, but he wasn‘t up for it.
No. 718632
>>718553NTAYRT, but the confusion over which image anons are talking about would not have happened and dragged on for days if
>>714903 and
>>715841 had posted screenshots like they were supposed to.
No. 718796
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Interesting
No. 718944
>>718861
>Obviously in our society sex is expected between adults with romantice feelings"Your society" means which one? Scandinavia? USA? Eastern Europe? Every single one of them has different point of view on that topic and some don't give a fuck if you fuck like rabbits or not at all until you exclaim it loudly.
>Like its literslly asexuality 101: not everyone is ok with a sexless relationship and stringing them along is cruel.And it takes at least 2 digit IQ to figure it out. And some pinch of empathy.
No. 719772
>>718796>all i can be is proud of who i am>i just want people to be proud in a time i cannotWhat?
Also why not date an ace, since they might understand. If bdsm-loving sebastian's really ace, that is.
No. 720114
>>720091"Turned on" means sexual sense. You can be asexual and masturbate, practice BDSM and whatever, but it won't lead to being turned on, If something turns you on - it's negation of the concept. So she is not really asexual or she is using the wrong word.
If it really turns her on and leads to orgasm but she can't reach it outside BDSM practice - like during casual sex it means she is pure clinical example of masochist, not an asexual person.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_masochism_disorder No. 720544
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TT posted another stupid haul. I don't think that trying new stuff with her "posing" (instead of just stiffly turning around as usual) does her or the products any favors though.
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This does not look good
No. 720829
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this is where their "fans" twitch donations is going.
on disgusting cigars for Jake to smoke because he thinks it makes him look classy
No. 721001
>>720544I really question if she gets to choose some of the products she promotes because they always look like the kind of pieces that wouldnt suit her shape or size.
Or she's just bad at picking clothes for herself.
No. 721089
>>720997Never heard of her, but I do like her style. Unfortunate that she stans Kat Von D.
Kinda OT but the brand she's promoting is a unisex brand which might explain why everything is so loose and sack-like. I do agree she could have styled it better, though.
No. 721137
>>720828"too busy" = excuse not to go? We all know Jake doesn't do anything unless it benefits him.
As for his accent, he used to have a normal English accent (vid related) idk why he changed it
No. 721333
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Disappears for weeks on end without posting aaaaand she comes up woth yet another haul!
No. 722714
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Well, at least we now know that goth to everyone is now about the clothes only and not about the music.
This meme page always rips into tt but they link this post…
The fucking white knights of tat coming out and some are trying to say that JAKE out of all people, listens to goth!
No. 722980
>>722714
>youtube - goff isn't about music, it's about killstar hauls!also
>tumblr - goff is about being more pansexual, feminist, transgender, vegan than you, you cis scum rapist freak!
>reddit - goff's do not talk about politics, if they do they have to bash right wing and people who criticize far left are nazis, even if they criticize nazis at the same time, so shut up you nazis. Soviet Union was not a real communism BTW. The same leftpositive redditers apply right wing rhetoric of "defending the subculture from alien influences" of nu goth/pastel goth/health goth/all black called goth, and if you do not agree with them you are not a real goth because you do not understand what that subculture is about and shiet. So fuck logic, who needs a consistency?
>instagram - look at my boobs and makeup I put on using Kat Von D products, also take a look at my 100% #vegan #glutenfree #kosher #halal #lowcarb #fatfree #killstar clothing that only Chinese workers were hurt producing it, but they are not cute fluffy bunnies so who cares, right?
>vampire freaks - X is dating Y, sleeping with Z and in relationship with Q having platonic feelings toward V while in friendzone with W and would like to cuckold K. No. 723014
>>722419she's answered your prayers, with a crappy d.i.y.!
>>722980>also take a look at my 100% #vegan #glutenfree #kosher #halal #lowcarb #fatfree #killstar clothingKek thank you for this anon
No. 723020
>>723014Honestly, I’m just happy it’s original content. Her makeup looks nice here too.
I will support anything that moves her away from haul videos and streaming with that POS Jake.
No. 723038
>>722980>>722714>Jake listens to goff guiz!!!Jake shat all over 70s-80s music, he doesn't even like the entry level bands lmao, and has never mentioned any from the 90s and after. The idiots probably think Jake crying to Evanescence makes him goth. He mostly listens to garbage fake metal and 00s skater music.
Ah yes, goff Reddit. That subred is pretty much a safe space it seems, I remember some bland alt chick posting a pic of her favorite band, which was a metal band, asking if anyone recognized the band shirt and some dude commented something like "Oh, didn't know metal was goth now." And
triggered some people. Pantera/Burzum is goth, I never knew.
No. 723322
>>723038/r/goth? They get
triggered on almost everything. And forget about even trying to discussing politics If you don't agree that Trump is a literal Hitler trying to oppress you together with every (of course awfully bad and nazi per definition) person who voted him. Not to mention quiet visible group of middle class "die-comfy sofa-hard non ironic communists" believing in seizing means of production and fighting against capitalism while drinking Starbucks coffee and browsing reddit on their iPhones. And forget about nihilistic jokes, at best you would get downvoted into oblivion or even get banned.
>>723288Can you post a shortened version what it's about?
No. 723341
>>723324
>Well, goth comes from a pretty left-leaning culture,
I know of plenty 80's punks who were there when punk was blooming and would object to such claims. More "fuck everything and piss everyone while awaiting a nuclear holocaust after rain of H-bombs". If you mean that "punks were left leaning" in sense they were not giving a fuck about quiet a lot's of things like are you gay or black or do you prefer to wear safety pin in your jacket or your nose, the things that current establishment of the times happend to care about and happened to be more or less right wing in the West it's not "being left leaning" per se. There was punk movement in countries with left wing communist governments as well and it was fighting with that establishement too. You can be quiet right wing and not be homophobic and wear studded Perfecto leather jacket. Personal freedom of expression is not per se left wing sympathy or conflicting with having predominantly right wing mindset. Also to be honest no one ever did actual research on their political sympathies , so all these "we wuz left since beginning" is mostly a wishful thinking of left wing leaning punks at best. Take a Sex Pistols for example - Rotten back in days was criticizing socialist sympathies of the Clash, and Lydon did quiet recently criticized many aspects of present day left wing hysteria and witch hunting. Ramones were more or less 50/50 on left/right wing. Punks and goths to the east from DDR were fighting with communism on the daily basis and were seen as enemies of the state by communist regime (which means arrests, beating, tortures and being constantly watched by state secret police). Cold Waves bands of USSR and it's satellite states and Yugoslavia were having more or less camouflaged anti communist lyrics and incorporating religious and patriotic themes. Not to mention that WGT organizers are constantly getting shit for not being far left oriented from local far left groups in Leipzig, because they dare to invite bands that do not fit their "seize means of production" mentality but go for diversity instead. Such far left lunatics call WGT "a Nazi meeting" (I'm not even joking). For far right it's of course "Meeting of faggots, tranies and other deviants".
>so it isn't surprising that most of them aren't going to like Trump. Not really shocking, tbh.
But believing he is literally a nazi is outrightly hilarious. It's a trivialization of what Third Reich nazism really was.
No. 723399
>>723288It's quite obvious IBF isn't as broke as she claims. She can afford to roam all over Europe and eat at pretty expensive looking restaurants. But oh no, she's broke. And she needs you guy's donations.
>>723322You can't even be slightly right-leaning on there. You could be a modern day conservatard who accepts anyone and anything because of big tentism, and you'd probably still get shat on lmao. It's funny they act like being a furfag with a dog fucking fetish wouldn't get them in the oven under Stalin. Little do they know, they'd most likely be shoved in the oven quicker under Stalin than they would under Hitler. There's one dude in particular on there who seems to be a wannabe communist, he looks like a goth blobfish.
>>723341Every Tumblrtard/FB warrior calls Trump a Nazi, he has Jewish grandchild and the flags are flying half-mast for the victims of the synagogue shooting. He even said the shooter deserved the death penalty (well, indirectly, but he pretty much said it) But oh no, he is a Nazi. I'm sure Hitler would've done the same thing.
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Finally someone points out the irony of her making fun of fat people in the past.
No. 723947
>>723941>>723944Jeffree has ABSOLUTELY said more racist shit recently and continues to do so, but we should take it to the youtube guru thread since he’s not even remotely goth and most of his recent transgressions have been discussed there.
Sage for who the fuck cares
No. 723991
>>723843Probably loads. That Stephanie chick who posted the original memes posted them on IG and
triggered a bunch of people, it's ridiculous. "Umm… did u really have to use the word retarded :(" And people are calling her an elitist, rofl.
Also, there's a chick in the comments on the photos saying we shouldn't call ourselves goth because it's a genre of music. Instead, we should say we're ~*gothic*~. Don't know about you guys, but calling myself "gothic" makes me cringe. It just sounds dumb, and I don't know why.
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This is especially funny in context of all the milk that has been spilled about him in prior threads.
Also the phrasing of I don't need another one and as a man who has always treated his female friend as an equal is so strange and completely proves the original commentor's point.
>It is I, famous respecter of women, here to respect women! How dare you suggest otherwise!
No. 724228
>>723399Trump is far right. Period.
You worship him, okay,but please don’t spread false things about him.
Nothing pissed me more than those who don’t assume what they are.
No. 724321
>>724228>Trump is far right. Period.xD He is a candidate of center right party. It's far right only to the die hard communism. Fun fact - democrats are also (at least were for decades) center right. Greetings from unbiased EUrope.
>You worship him, okay,but please don’t spread false things about him.Which things that anon wrote are false? About his family and flags?
> Nothing pissed me more than those who don’t assume what they are.Because you are right by definition?
No. 724327
>>723991
>Probably loads. That Stephanie chick who posted the original memes posted them on IG and triggered a bunch of people, it's ridiculous. "Umm… did u really have to use the word retarded :(" And people are calling her an elitist, rofl. Kek. Western internet dwelling Goffs are now so fucking PC and modest they are more PC than general normie population. They would have hard time among the '90s goths an would be eaten alive by the '80s punks. When the fuck that cancerous "PC normalization" started? I'm glad scene in my country is finding that attitude to be ridiculous. Especially because it has strong presence of goths in age of 30-40 that are ridiculing that attitude on daily basis.
>>724113
>Adora just posted some “snippet from her music video” and I only can say, who the fuck told this woman she can sing? IAs far as I remember she herself said she sucks at singing, but it's fun to do so.
>>724228
>I prefer grufti or batcave… just my thing. And since 25years now. As an old elitist, yes the movement has to do first with music."Goth"/"gothic" was mostly dominant term for England (and maybe "Positive Punk") until the '90s as far as I remember. Most of Europe including Soviet Union was using term "Cold Wave". In USA it was "Death rock" if I'm not mistaken. I also have read that they used term "Dirge". For some reason there is a trend among millenials to try forcing these terms into separate genres of music. They are so resistant to truth that these terms were synonymous for long time that it's beyond ridiculous.
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Just imagine someone dressed like picrel nowadays. Millenials would get heart attack.
No. 724359
Interesting that Voltaire changed his instagram to private
https://www.instagram.com/aureliovoltaireEarlier it was public and had some quiet interesting jokes with sexual undertones. Can't he just be honest with himself? He made numerous erotic overtone jokes and scene knows about that very well. The only people who gives a fuck about that are millenials snowflakes, the rest of grown up people just avoid him if they have problems with that. Especially when he put self description like thiat on Instagram:
>A Gothic Homemaker, horror host, raconteur, world-traveling bard and all around cunning linguist.
>and all around cunning linguist.Yes, we get it Aurelio, you like to lick vagina. Fine. But why acting now like you are not sex obsessed? You self identify as a goth as far as I remember. So why do you give a damn what others think? Your personality is well known at this point anyway.
If your personality brings problems into your relationships I suggest changing personality, not account to private and trying to deny some facts online.
No. 724376
>>724359Can you please stop shoving your political opinions into our faces? Yeah, we get it, you're not a leftist, you hate millenials, you're an elder goth who knows the culture so well, blah blah blah. You sound really annoying, trying to push your rhetoric about "snowflakes" in every post.
Also, Voltaire wasn't just being edgy and joking about sex - there were reports of him actually sexually harassing women during his events. Some of them mentioned in the previous Alt Cows threads. You don't have to believe them, of course, but it's kind of hard not to when observing his general sleazy behavior.
No. 724955
>>724651
>00:01:00 we never tend to have fruit at the house - because if we buy fruit we tend to eat it straight away."we never tend to have fruit at the house - because we don't eat fruit"
ftfy, kaya you fucking cave troll.
No. 725706
Speaking of /r/goth, they have rules nao, safe space as fuck. I wonder how their "elite" is going to follow them in practice. They were typically having a lot of problems with following most of them. And I really mean MOST.
r/goth Rules
1.
No Hate Speech or Personal Attacks
No Hate Speech: Includes but is not limited to, racism, sexism, homophobic, transphobic, or other discriminary speech, including user-names. Any of this, and you may be permanently removed. Don't attack people on a personal level: no name-calling, derogatory terms, threats, or urge someone to self harm. Disagree with each other, but try and be civil about it. If someone attacks you or someone, report it to us, don't engage them, or you may be punished as well.
2.
No Politics
If you wanna discuss politics, then it's probably better to take it up in /r/politics.
3.
No Witch Hunts
Please don't rile up the community to vote or go against something. There's been too many cases where someone or something have been wrongly accused.
4.
Flag NSFW Content
This is very important. If you're posting a picture or a video that could potentially or even is NSFW, then flag it as such. If you are unsure, flag it!
5.
Relevancy
Keep "low effort" posts to a minimum. This includes but is not limited to: I just got this, look at this, non-describing topics, etc. No GothBoiClique posts! Those are not goth artists, and have their own sub: /r/gothboiclique No Soundcloud rappers! Once again not goth related, and there's a soundcloud sub: /r/soundcloud Please keep as many selfies, and fashion posts in our Weekly Fashion Friday thread as possible. Please keep as many music videos in our Weekly Music Monday's thread as possible.
6.
Misinfo or Elitism
Please be sure to not spread any misinformation in this sub, the goth subculture are already being bombarded by it, by mainstream media and people who haven't done any research about what goth really is. So double check your sources. And if you're unsure, feel free to message the mods.
Elitism: It is a known problem in certain areas, but it's extremely rare, so please refrain from calling someone an Elitist because they disagree with you, or corrects you in some form. That's not Elitism.
7.
Spam and Self Promotion
We expect you to follow the redditiquette, this means, don't downvote something just because you disagree with it, to do your best to engage in our community and not only post self promotional content (think 1 in 10). Any posts to GoFundMe, Kickstarter, your own youtube, clothing shop, etc etc, may be removed.
No. 725712
>>725706It didn't even took me long to find fresh post
>DaveAzoicer > Promoter - Admin at /r/goth Discord @sidebar >I should find an old friends of mine who made a meme out of douchewicks (years in the scene), was exactly like this.Yes - use of the term "douchewicks" and such memes is totally not breaking the rules it seems. If they don't follow own rules, why even bother to write any rules? logic vs /r/goth 1 : 0
No. 725790
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>>725706They're always posting music outside of their music thread and political stuff (only when it fits their own beliefs, of course). Speaking of Goff internet, what happened to VampireFreaks? I was under the impression (I've never used the site, to be honest) that it was a goth site, but the users there now are emos, metalheads, and attention seeking Instagoth thots showing off their humongous saggy titties and flat asses.
>>724651This is indeed a very boring video, her uploads are mostly reviews, which are boring. She needs to mix up her videos, her fans want to see vlogs and maybe even a makeup tutorial here and there. If she would just lose weight she would blow up, maybe even be IBF's rival. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, tho.
No. 725924
>>725823>"the gothic Alice" is a fairly typical goth, based on obsessive alt collector types I've known.What do other anons think? She can be pretentious but is not an idiot non goth,I'm looking at you Kaya(TT) ..she is far,far better than TT or IBF(the examplar of average)..! Well she knows at least some music within genre and do own stuff which places her way above "I'm goff coz I wear blek cloffz from kilzdar and sport darg smokee ays". About clothing - she does not give a shit what is current trend, but IMHO sticks to something that reassembles Ann Rice style, but not rigorously.
>As far as I know Alice doesn't do unboxings or sponsored content.Big Win.I don't remember her reviewing anything else than movies and music.
>Mainly she does film reviews and knows her stuff.Yea, she is pretty much into that stuff and have seen enough to consider her interest as serious.
>That blouse is heinous..but most of her outfits are creative ,look fab and she thifts a lot of them..Well despite goth went more "aristocratic" than original punk in some stylizations, it's still punky and "strange and unusual" element in style is still quiet desired. Look at the late '80s and early '90s grufties. Like google WGT 1992 photos or regular parties photos- they were looking like wearing black body bags. Goth is not about only about looks clean and tidy like IBF, but also ghoulish as Alien Sex Fiend vocalist. Ofcourse the last one does not sell well on instagram, because normies are scared by it even nowadays.
>Agreed that Alice is very smug at times( reminds of the girl in " ghost world" or perhaps has Asperger's?At least has a functional autism. Like most of goths I met in person. Some just have stronger forms some weaker.
No. 725936
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>>725924Picrel old WGT photo from early days of that festival.
No. 726219
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>>725891Possibly Alice? I would think it is, seeing as she has read here before and whined about us being "mean" to Kaya and IBF.
>>725924Well she knows at least some music within genre and do own stuff which places her way above "I'm goff coz I wear blek cloffz from kilzdar and sport darg smokee ays". About clothing - she does not give a shit what is current trend, but IMHO sticks to something that reassembles Ann Rice style, but not rigorously.
Quite accurate, seeing as Alice only likes the beginner bands. That's only because she mainly likes 70s-80s music anyway. I personally don't consider her to be goth, mostly because she is another one of those "you don't have to listen to goth music to be goth" types. I've always found that people who think that either, only listen to the 'entry' bands and never branch out, or don't like any of the music at all.
Her blog says she's a lover of gothy things and punk rock. Seems she prefers punk rock to gothic rock then. I also noticed she doesn't outright say she's goth, she tends to skip over it using spooky, etc. This screenshot is from her blog. I don't know why she couldn't answer the question. It's a simple yes or no question; Do you, or do you not have to like goth music to be apart of the goth subculture?
>>725923Her slathering on white foundation to be the palest of them all and a bad diet of pastries and greasy food. She needs to let her skin breathe and go on a diet. Jake's skin is also bad, it's really noticeable when the camera is angled underneath him.
No. 726269
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Who the fuck makes posts like this on ig? I know she's autistic enough to get state benefits, but she just lacks any self awareness. People literally only like her because she posts nudes.
Like, i made drunk posts i regretted that weren't even this cringe.
>>725796Agreed. SheY's a pompous psuedo-intellectual. I can't stand her boring ass personality or her horrendous attempts at outfits.
>>725790VF was always like this.
No. 726370
>>726318What're you talking about? I'm going to assume you're talking about post-punk, not all post-punk bands can even be called goth.
>>726317Seems more like it's her copping out and not answering the actual question. No one is mentioning any particular bands, they're asking about goth music in general, do they or do they not have to like the music to be goth? That is a yes or no question. I'd like her answer if it was her responding to an "Am I goth if I don't like Sisters of Mercy or Siouxsie and the Banshees?" type of question. That'd be pretty interesting, imo.
No. 726377
>>726370>What're you talking about? I'm going to assume you're talking about post-punk, Post punk is a form of punk "bastardized" by pop and other influences but still.
>not all post-punk bands can even be called goth.Breaking news! Someone notify the Guardian and New York Times!
No. 726389
>>726377Ew please quit talking. Punk was bastardized by pop with sex pistols and the clash. Post-punk was much more melancholy and experimental in the days of joy division and wire.
Plus, pls name a post-punk band that isn't goth. The Mob? Are they too anarcho? Nah, Southern death cult was pretty anarcho. Red lorry yellow lorry? Not a very goth name. And also the trees was infinitely more goff than Siouxsie, but hey, fuck me, right?
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No. 726398
>>726389>Plus, pls name a post-punk band that isn't goth. Missing Persons, Gang of Four, Public Image Limited, Nina Hagen
Enough or have I to continue?
No. 726412
>>726398I'd consider all of them goth. Except pil. But john rotten and pil fucking suck. Did you throw nina in at the end because you ran out of bands?
>>726396I don't like kaya, but she needs to leave his ass.
No. 726529
>>726412>I'd consider all of them gothO.o
> Did you throw nina in at the end because you ran out of bands?Talking Heads? Adam and the Ants? xD
Nope.I can list New Romantic bands. But if Missing Persons and PiL are gothic for you I guess you would swallow New Romantics into Gothic bag as well? That would make some sense in case of the '90s, when some of NR tendencies melted into goth music.
And synth pop also is sometimes presented as post punk genre. I see no point in including every SP act into Goth bag. Some of them maybe, but not everything.
Also 80's music that spawned out of punk has a problem of a clusterfuck of names applied to more or less defined subgenres that were partially or totally cross-sections of each other. Like is New Wave and Post Punk totally the same set or just they have a cross-section? And alternative more or less regional names (Cold Wave, Death Rock, Dirge, Positive Punk to name most well known) for what we call nowadays Gothic Rock (a name that "won" the battle for "dominant" term for that kind of music just in the '90s but originally was rarely used outside the UK).
No. 726595
>>726270>>726269"my poor, tortured soul is so complex, no therapist has the ability to even begin to unravel the mysterious enigma that is my mind"
>muh speshul snowflake.also, what more likely happened is that she didn't comply with what her therapists told her to do or went against some basic rules that were set up in the beginning and thus ceased to treat her because you can't get treated if you're not willing to actually accept the professional help.
No. 726615
>>726396What an instahoe. He needs Kaya for that YT "fame" since nobody knows him without her, or he'd be straight up sexting his followers.
I'm sure she knows cos he flirted with Kelly in front of her (coincidence that she has more subs than Kaya?)
Kaya is a shitty person but jfc she should dump this leech.
No. 726728
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Well, at least this time we know who’s the one behind her boobs.
No. 726731
>>726728christ, i used to love her look but seeing her now and knowing she's a mother of 3 and that she keeps posting pictures on instagram like an attention-starved teenager…idk man.
her kids can see this shit too. it's on her public profile and has her signature. i hope their father is at least somewhat normal.
No. 726779
>>726728>flesh bodysuit with the brightness and smooth turned up to 11She sure loves to provoke
>>726773That's a big jump, at most the woman just has her arms around someone who she is facing, I think you're mistaking the other person's elbow as her shorts being open.
No. 727113
>>726731I really think that her husband just got tired of all that shit. He used to be with her at all festivals and seemed to be really into her until she started to hang with way too many young boys. Maybe the husband wasn’t delivering anymore, but even then you can see there was a point where she started to party all the time, leaving home to go to Stockholm to party with all the people there, and what about that stage where she was super drunk all the time making videos with the cringiest drunken voice? I guess that’s when her husband decided to move on and suddenly started to tone down with the style too (he was pretty much only making posts about work and going running and so on on his fb)
She also seems to be gaining weight, I mean she looks better as when she was pure bone, but I think she’ll end up like TT. Adora was always making fun of fat chicks and her waist seems to be going away by the day.
No. 727133
>>727113Perhaps its a beer belly kek.
Or (I'm stretching but) what if she's pregnant from reckless sleeping around
No. 727343
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>>727003you don't have to be famous to weasle your way into a free bed and meal, free entry to pretentious parties. let's face it, IBF will suck up to anyone who will think she's somebody. fame is a very loose term. famous for being…. what? doing? I wonder if her silly supporters are happy to keep giving her money to travel to the UK, belgium and other locations. I can't imagine funding a good time is benefitting them… #gothroyalty SMH
No. 727469
>>726728If she's 45 she's Raven-tier mad, some serious mental illness going on. Hope the husband gets custody of those kids.
>>726995It's almost a full day later and still 0 donations. No one cares about her begging.
No. 727619
>>727515I believe it was on her Facebook but that was a looong time ahi, over a year ago perhaps. I’ll see if it’s still up there but it’s a pain to look up probably, she posts way too much.
I wonder if she’s lurking, she just made a post about how good of a mom she is kek.
No. 727624
>>726995Can we report that to get it taken down?
I love how they pretend to be so poor when they make a crazy amounts of money on twitch.
It's also really cheap to fly from Belfast to London and travel lodges are very cheap too. They just want everything handed to them for free
No. 727662
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>>727624They're lazy cunts how the fuck do they have fans? This old pic made me lol
No. 727716
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This cunt comes back with yet another haul video. Apparently before she left for her trip to the uk. She’s just getting cringey now. Every video bf starts making cringey voices. Why are people still watching this and are ok with it?
No. 727735
>>727716I hate to be the "haha this cow is fat" person, but my god what an unfortunate midsection for that bodice design, she looks huge.
Does she shoop her waist or corset or suck in?
No. 727760
>>727735She has used a waist cincher before(you could see the outline of the piece under her clothing)
Other than that, the girl knows her angles
No. 727767
Ree is kinda boring, but she is actually grateful for her fans instead of leeching off them. TT and IBF take note.
Speaking of IBF
>>727720Oof she looks haggard and "losing weight" has gone nowhere. She wanted to change her life she said, but same boring content and no update on the UK cop-out.
No. 727883
>>727662Well typical late '00s look straight outta myspace and cyber events.
>>727716Her content became so boring like around few months after the time she moved to Germany. She posted few videos from events there and then such content mostly stopped to appear and it turned predominantly into haul after haul after bath bomb after contact lenses Yaaaaawn…. What was her last video about music? Yes, good few years ago from now.
No. 727888
>>727883But for such boring content as it's now she is doing not bad statistic wise
https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/itisblackfridayBut to be honest with amount of material she published in last few years she can pretty much sit on her ass and not do too much and still get results by the sheer inertia.
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Will her begging ever end?
No. 728640
>>728636Me too, it's pretty obvious.
Also, receiving free items is still a form of being paid for shilling for that particular company - sorry to tell you this, Angela. You're just being "paid" in goods, not in money.
No. 728710
>>728671Not as a cow, but I'm tired of every Youtuber shilling for something nowadays.
Is anyone making videos because they like making videos anymore, or is everyone just doing it for the free clothes and sponsorships?
No. 729427
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Just to add to the "goth is just a fashion now" debate, here is valentin (who uses pop song lyrics in his captions) new fashion label feat: Itsblackfriday's bad angle
Why would they put these photos up?!
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>>729427At first glance this looks cool, then you realize it's hella awkward. These look like self timer photos
No. 729467
>>729446Valentin is far right on the second image, just bad grammar in my post, apologies
*valentin's
No. 729649
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I watched Jake's vlog and every second is not important.
The video game part is especially cringy and weirdly added in.
Jake also keeps saying he's not going to share what he eats..probably because we all know he eats nothing but junk food still
No. 729887
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OG pic made me think of this thread, so i thought I made this
No. 730029
>>729649not sure how it was about body positivity but wasn't paying full attention to it either.
the video he made about ppl ~supporting~ them so they could move to a bigger place was so cringey. sell some of your hoard, organize your shit and then set up specific spaces for each of you to film. if they had more space they'd just junk it up b/c lazy and complain like they are now.
No. 730089
>>729649Simultaneously begging for people to send him stuff whilst complaining they have no space.
Also, why does Jake get the dedicated 'studio' when he has like 1/10th of Kaya's subscribers?
No. 730150
>>730147two people without actual jobs want to move to a bigger house because the house they're in now is too full of all the free merch and gifts they get! Boo Hoo!!!
I can't believe the sense of entitlement.
No. 730188
>>730147They've been babied and enabled by society and social media to live the life they have now. Many people with mental illnesses, anxiety and the whole gamut of ailments suffer every second of every day when they work their 'normal' job, because that's what it is. A job. It's a means to an end. A way to put food on the table and a shelter over your head. I sometimes wish we wouldn't put people like this pair of tits on a pedestal and let them get away with their shit. How about work through your issues and knuckle down just like everyone else. Sell your hoards of free shit, or better yet donate it to people who would actually use it, and make an honest living instead of being massively vacuous leeches.
Kaya should dump Jake and get her life back on track and Jake should grow his eyebrows out and accent he's not the buff Adonis that he thinks he is. These two piss me off beyond anything else.
No. 730211
>>730147I posted a comment on Jake's video asking him what happened to the £1000 pounds he got recently and the other random £500 donations he gets on twitch all the time and he literally deleted the comment straight away.
He really wants people to think he's this struggling genius when really him and his ogre girlfriend are just scammers who will take and take and think they deserve every bit of it
No. 730236
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>>730211He didn’t delete this one.
No. 730245
>>730236>nah they just tried to piss me off. There's a few that try to do it lolThen why respond lol
Oh yeah, cos he is extremely petty but also thinks he's ~so above that~
He's full of contradictions. Eats junk all day but thinks he's a Greek god, gets free stuff but begs like he has nothing…
As delusional as TT. No wonder they're together, they're not into each other but who else could stand their shittiness?
No. 730254
>>730147He said he wants to make merch based on art…but who's art? He seems too stingy to blow his vlahhg earnings on an artist, and his own "great day" t-shirt art is 0 effort.
I bet he'll leech off a friend, or pull a fake merch scam on his 3 fans and "forget" all about it…
No. 730304
>>729940>Acting as if IBF wouldn't wear this in publicI didn't know that, I figured it was some weird looking wrinkly clothes photo shoot. The crowns are nice, I'll give them that.
>>729887Tbh, most of our posts sound like the elitist one, besides whining about people needing to dress as we do or listening to the exact same music as we do. We tend to want people to be individuals instead of copying each other, which is more common these days. I'd say the people in these threads are a mixture of the neutral and the elitist. Not too bad. I guess if we truly care and are as goffik and as d@rque as we think we'd probably be a teeny bit elitist.
>>729556I'm getting male ~*vibes*~ from that post, it could be one of her male fans who fap over her IG pics, kek. I don't think Angela would drop such a spergy post.
(Do we have a new thread yet?)
No. 730324
>>730304
>do we have a new thread yet?Calm down. This thread just hit 1100.
To whomever makes the new thread, please update the list. Should people who are no longer discussed like Dorian still be included?
No. 730345
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This fucking moron.
I work at fertility clinic. It’s not only the father but by age 25 a female is at her peak for reproduction (85%). After that it drops off. After 30, a good chuck of genetic defects bounce from only being a 30% probability under the age of 25 to 70% after 30. Not only that, every first female pregnancy is a miscarriage to the point that you don’t know you’re pregnant as it’s just seen as another period. After that it’s usually a blighted ovam if unlucky, however again, after 30 those changes are higher and if she does have a family history of early menopause, she will more than likely have to go through ivf.
And as for the stability comment… YOU DO THAT TO YOURSELF!! You insufferable immature adult.
No. 730359
>>730345>The older the father, the greater the risks of a baby born with mental disorders, syndromes, or other complications.Great, now I can wait until I'm 70 to have kids. As long as the father is 23, I'm good.
Is she trying to get pregnant or something? Is this a cry out for a goff British man to marry her then impregnate her so she can do alt baby clothes hauls? I wonder what she'd name the child…
No. 730537
>>730518>aren't you mistaking alice for sebastian?Oops, my bad!
I was referring to this post (sebastian)
>>718796 No. 730554
>>730463that was disputed here
under the current state of knowledge that would be qualified as one of paraphilias
No. 732986
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We feel like it's the same outfit you've been wearing since last year
No. 737398
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Adora uploaded a new photo of her and her "boob-holder".
At this point I dont care about her naked breasts or pictures of her doing it. What really pisses me of is her lying about her boobjob. Somebody aksed if they are natural and her response is "yes" which is obviously a blatant lie.
In one of her videos you could even see surgery scars.
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That is NOT what natural breasts look like. And, damn it, there is nothing wrong with getting your boobs fixed if you feel you need it and I'm sure three pregnancys did their magic, but why lie about it? She could just ignore the questions like she ignores the comments about her ex.
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And while I'm at it: This is such a weird and cringy picture to upload. Her smiling in the front while her ex stands ignoring her in the back looking cleary uncomfortable. Whyyyy would anyone upload this except you think your followers are stupid?