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No. 199767
first thread is finally due to be locked, so here's the new one to discuss bisexuality. first thread
>>56468if you're still extremely unsure if you're bisexual, the questioning thread is likely a better fit. talk about your gender preferences, how you discovered you were bi, what's your type in men and women, how you feel in the community, any struggles you've had with bisexuality, etc.
No. 199781
>>199687I used to, but I coped by just denying it so now I'm well into my adulthood with 0 experience with anyone due to my inability to stomach romance with a man in reality.
If you’re happy with women why does it matter? The only trouble I see is people assuming bisexuals all prefer men or are 50/50. But as long as your partners don't believe you'll leave them for dudes then it has no real impact on your life.
Is your family religious or something?
No. 199844
>>199772>>199781I wouldn't call myself a febfem because I do interact with men sexually (it's so much easier to find men for casual stuff than women), but the thought of dating one is uncomfortable. I think it can be hard to find other bi women with a strong same sex preference both irl and online, the common experience seems to be dating a man and then coming out or experimenting and it makes me feel disconnected from my identity. I'm the same as you second anon, it's the romance aspect of interacting with men that feels off to me.
No, my family isn't religious.
No. 199985
>>199974Happens a lot I'm afraid but If a febfem ever calls herself a lesbian I'm like " Yeah you're bi but I don't blame ya"
I want to date a woman and I usually think I'm going to end up with a woman even if I want to experience what a relantioship or a fling with a man would be like
No. 200023
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I wish I hadn't had a bad experience with my first love. Made me too cautious of other women. I just have to get over it and stop feeling like a victim like an incel. Self pity isn't as fun as having a gf would be
No. 200338
>>200298I was talking about drawn depictions winch in each case they are usually drawn to look like flat chested chicks with dicks ( curves and all that)
I'm ashamed to say I'm still fond of it even if i know naturally no dude looks like This! It just my bisexual brain acting up
No. 200610
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There is a woman in my dm's hitting on me hard and my retarded ass has no idea how to really respond or what to do.
Going to see how close near me she lives and might ask her out so wish me luck anons
No. 201232
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Would you like there to be a bi emoji, like the gay pride flag emoji? I think it could be useful as well as a lesbian emoji and tbf there’s already a fucking mpreg one, but I don’t think I’d want to see emojis for the billion different made up sexualities and genders.
No. 201430
>>201425she's probably just found that she's experienced the same feeling of finding a woman attractive or being attracted to someone in passing as she might otherwise had with a guy. it might even have always been that way for her but she's just never decided to confide in you before now.
honestly it's super common for women to be in established relationships whilst realising their bisexuality. i don't really think it means anything or threatens the stability of the relationship, it's just that its pretty easy to get into a het relationship in our society (especially when you're younger) and many of us don't even question that there's other options until later on
No. 201434
>>201425>Is it enough to just think "woman sexy" and oh snap, you're bi?If you fantasize about fucking women, yeah. Same as hetero crushes on dudes.
Unless you think every virgin is asexual.
No. 202370
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>>202314>tfw my husbandos will never give me tender loving sex because they aren't real and no moid is attractive enough to justify trying to have terrible intercourse withi can honestly say i'm at happy with my decision to be celibate until i can find a gf
No. 202784
>>202372>>202370Pick one
>Husbandos you actually like and find attractive, using your own terms and tools to give yourself the pleasure you really want and continue to edge for hours if you want to until a satisfying climaxOr
>Fucking some greasy moid who rams it in while you're still half dry, get a minute of sad jackhammering without reaching an orgasm and afterwards he wants to try anal or choking because porn actresses like it No. 203179
>>203135Honestly I'd keep on calling myself a febfem, afaik there's no other word and you shouldn't let idiots create definitions. By claiming to be a febfem you can immediately detect the handmaiden and thus avoid dating them. Also
>transmenIf only evil terfs use this term why would they date TiFs? Fucking retards.
No. 203182
>>203180Right? Im starting to get frustrated how penis centric they made bisexuals to be regardless of their gender as if neither could just like women better when given the option.
||me not waking up having had a wet dream with a woman today lol||
No. 203221
>>203179Yea, I think I'll throw in the "excuse" of trying to "reclaim" the word if anyone asks
>If only evil terfs use this term why would they date TiFs? Because it means that you see them as cis women, not "trans men"
No. 207166
>>207164With threesomes.. lots of women who find themselves attracted to two people would still only want to fuck them one at a time. Group sex is just a whole separate kink in itself.
And I'm saying that as a bisexual woman who had threesomes when I was younger. It was okay but the novelty wore off after say session 2. It was never 'twice the fun', if anything if was half the fun of just concentrating on one person.
No. 207302
>>207249Obligatory "stop watching porn"
But seriously, that means nothing
No. 207393
>>207249Wtf is this nonsense.
Are straight women and lesbians "bad" unless they sleep with two men or women at the same time?
No. 207665
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>mfw you google 'bi women' and these are the first results
No. 207710
>>207665I wonder if the 11 signs you're Bi article is any good.
Also am I the only one that lurks the lesbian thread to get away from dick.
No. 208242
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I had a date with a GORGEOUS woman and I felt that we had chemistry. We are interested in same things but there’s a one issue: she has never been with another woman! Only men.
Bc men give her a lot of attention and pursue her romantically. She’s a model I kid you not. I think that her looks are intimidating for other women
I’m nerdy and chubby girl next door and I try my best not to be too self conscious.
actually it took me three months to ask her out bc she was too good looking which was little threatening… i gave in bc she commented every single one of my social media posts lol.
She seems to be super into me but her dating is suspicious. I’ve dated both sexes since I was 14 so it feels kind of weird that she’s inexperienced. But I want to try!
I’m planning all kinds of cute dates. Next time we are going to my favourite cafe and art gallery tour. If we actually end up in relationship I’m going to spoil her rotten
Pic related is me thinking why is this woman messaging me out of nowhere
No. 208272
>>208242Depending where she grew up and How aware of her feelings she was, your date may have only ever had the chance to date guys/ allowed herself to date them
I'm glad you found someone really into you though, it does warm my little heart
No. 208292
>>208242This is so sweet! I hope that your dates go well. Seconding the anon above, there's reasons why she may not have dated women before. At least she's trying now?
>>207710>Also am I the only one that lurks the lesbian thread to get away from dick.I don't tbh. If I'm scrolling past and it catches my eye I'll read, but I don't lurk cause I wouldn't relate to most of the topics or
"bihet" rants No. 208599
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>>208441We should post some cool bi women from history.
No. 208603
>>208571it didn't! It's perfectly reasonable that not every Bi woman would immediately identify with lesbian stuff and a lot of anons do have a bone to pick with Bihets winch gets annoying even to me but I've learned to ignore it with a eye roll.
>>208599 Garbo and Dietritch used to be a item No? If so what a power couple
No. 208609
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>>208599>>208603Oops, that photo is of Dietrich. Misleading filename! Here is the actual Greta Garbo.
No. 208610
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>>208609And here she is with some smooching action from Queen Christina.
No. 208625
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>>208599Is Tove Jansson considered bi? She had relationships with men before spending the rest of her life with a female partner
No. 208629
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>>208625Yes, she had love relationships with men but is most known for her relationship with Tuulikki.
She was really cool. I admire her for drawing satire of Hitler during WW2.
No. 208760
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Is anyone else really weirded out by the trend of women identifying as bi or sapphic, without being same sex attracted? I grew up in a very homophobic environment. You were either straight or lesbian, and being lesbian was very bad. Bisexuality didn't exist. I struggled so much with my feelings and my identity. Finally, I realized I was bi and that was normal and okay. When women treat it as a cool label, it's a huge culture shock to me.
No. 208774
>>208760Ugh, guess the early 2000s are not just style wise back in trend.
I wish those people would just stop because this is how you get all the "evil evil bihets" stories.
No. 208775
>>208774Same. Was so bad even the only other two kinda gay girls at my school were bi ( fancy school but in a third world country) and only one other lesbian ( who dressed kinda butch) and for those 2 bi girls, only one sort of gave me the Bi vibes and even that one was dating a dude, so finding Bi girls with extensive female dating history may sound like a wasteland sometimes lmao.
Anyone else has a bi radar in a sense? I can't be the only one that just knows from talking if a girl is Bi or not or had a strong hunch
No. 208776
>>208736I realised that the insecurity may be partially fueled by Internalized homophobia because if there genuinely Bi and only focusing on men without accounting for women I think there still in a way stiffling their sexuality for a arbitrary reason.
This only accounts for those that aren't genuinely penis centric lol. Some Bis just find a nice guy or find a good lay in men and I can't totally blame em but serial monogamists kinda make my eyebrows raise, Yknow?
No. 208994
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the bi women confess instagram is pretty good to follow.
No. 209045
>>208994The last point of the post collage made me think of something that was brought up in my radfem server-
Namely that the label Febfem can be a bit useless because the label bisexual already implies that you are able to become attracted to women.
It's ofc a lot more nuanced then that but I do hate that the need for a microlabel even came to be because be it gay or straight some people can't acknowledge that a bisexual has the potential of being in a long term let alone life long relantioship with the same sex
No. 209049
>>209045febfem doesn't just refer to the
desire to partner with men, but the choice to exclusively do so. it's true bisexual already implies the ability to do so, but seeing as most bi people are in straight relationships, it most definitely does not imply the preference or active choice to only partner with the same sex.
it's not a microlabel, it's about a choice to live your life a particular way.
No. 209061
>>209051Agreed. I've always disliked pick-me bisexuals
the ones that hate other bisexual women and the ones that pretend to be bi, but the latter isn't really a bisexual but this post said it better than I could.
No. 209064
>>208994The top right though
>gay men (like all moids) willing to fuck anyone>women not wanting a woman who already has a bfNot really a double standard, men and women are just different.
No. 209318
>>209270I actually had jokingly thought of using bi4bi before lol.
I'm sorry about your ex-gf; I do think that it's common for someone to experience their sexuality differently especially if it's as fluid as bisexuality so I suppose finding common ground can be tough to some but I do agree with anon that between a straight woman and a lesbian a bisexual is still much more likely to understand the nuances of what being a bi woman is regardless of preference
No. 209330
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>>209066I do sometimes get the thought of "if I was more feminine I would probably get laid." But I dont think it is worth it, being confident in my looks makes me seem more attractive than if I forced myself into more feminine style and felt unfortable. So maybe less options, but more likely to attract the ones that are into masculine women. Also some men are into it as well, maybe they assume you are a lesbian but just make a move on them yourself if you are interested.
No. 209370
>>209365>But what is it like to like men too? Is it just more subtle?It's the same as liking women for me. I see nice woman butt in jeans, I ooga booga. I see nice man butt in jeans, I ooga booga.
>I asked my mom why I don’t like men and she says I need to just meet one. Retarded. She can't answer this for you. Although her advice has some truth to it: if you never interact with men you won't know if you like them or not. That having been said, she's probably trying to cope.
>But she says it’s not a big deal if I’m not finding them hot yet, I may just need to open up to one. Do I need to try to touch a man before concluding im a gay? I think she means to open up to one emotionally, not sexually, if you are curious about whether you could like a man as a partner. Forming some kind of meaningful relationship such as a friendship. I don't totally agree with her, but it's also not awful advice to get to know a man if you're actually curious. It's not something you should force yourself into just because you think a heteronormative life may be easier for you.
>did any of you discover a love for men later on/after experience?I wasn't attracted to men at all until my early-mid twenties, so there's that. But I knew before fucking one that I wanted to fuck one, you don't want to go into a sexual situation you aren't ready for in hopes that you'll warm up to it during or after. It would be really unpleasant to find out during that you aren't okay with having sex with men.
>I have a little hope that i can be at least bi but I’m probably coping lol. You probably are. I wouldn't recommend sleeping with one to find out, but safe nonsexual interactions with men might help you sort this situation out. You may find affirmation in a lesbian identity or you may decide you want to continue exploring it.
>Is it normal to find men uninteresting until after experience with them?I don't know, I think it's normal to not find many people interesting as romantic/sexual partners until you get to know them. Not that being sexually attracted to someone you don't know personally is abnormal, either. I guess it depends on what you want out of the relationship you have with them. If you want an intellectually or emotionally stimulating partner, you won't know if a man can satisfy that unless you talk to them. If you want sexual excitement, you'll probably know without getting to know them whether they can do that for you. Don't force yourself into comphet, but keeping an open mind to it isn't horrible if you aren't confident in your sexuality yet.
No. 209705
>>209365When I see an attractive man or woman my body reacts. I feel it in my vulva and I get wet. I have sexual thoughts about them. That's just how I know I am bisexual. It feels the same for both. For actually falling in love, it's the same too. I want to spend a lot of time with them because I have fun with them and they make me happy, and I want to become best friends that fuck.
I might just have a higher libido but it's not confusing to me, I never thought I'd have to try sex before knowing. I feel what I feel and the word to describe it is bisexual.
No. 210002
>>200047It was stupid but tl;dr lots of her manipulating me but lots of me being a suckup and a rube. I wasn't honest with her or myself about my real feelings.
>>209924I used to take it really personally and feel a lot of guilt when people would be biphobic online but I learned to stop. Maybe I am just more mature. Other people's bad experiences and stereotypes don't have anything to do with me and I know what I am, it's not my job to correct people or stand up for myself or even identify with what they are talking about at all
No. 210260
>>210247I like feminine/ pretty woman myself ( I can't say I prefer them since I'm not opposed to more masc or andro women either) but I feel it would depend how they talk about women or why there attracted to feminine women exclusively imo.
It's kinda like saying lesbians that like femmes aren't true lesbians or something
No. 210284
>>210277Can you infer your colleague is q lesbian or at least bisexual? If so you could start by trying to hang out with her a few times outside of work and see if you hit it off. Don't force it though if things don't hit off but if they do you could ask her on a proper date
If it sounds vague is because I'm trying to help you none the less
No. 210330
>>210312That's actually a bit comforting lol
But yea, I joined a few days ago and set it to dates today. It's honestly the only app so far where I never had any matches so it feels a bit odd
No. 210632
>>210496This question causes a lot of infighting, and different anons will have varying answers so lets just avoid this topic. This isn't the lesbian thread anyway, so lets keep the conversation away from them.
>>210569I'm sorry you're feeling that way, anon. Has he ever talked about his "type" in women? You'd be surprised at how many men are into women that look gay
No. 210803
>>210779I realized that even though I'm not scared of man there not compatible with the type of life I want to have, namely that I don't want to have kids as I'm physically unable to take care of an infant and wouldn't be able to give it proper care and we all know how eager men are to have babies but not necessarily take care of them and even if I found a nigel it wouldn't change my mind nor ever eliminate the risks for me.
Actually from all stereotypes and shit peddled at Bis, namely No women because of course people point their fingers at us, is that my same sex attraction will never be long lived or "
valid", as it does genuinely hurt me probably because it's hard to find old long term Bisexual couples where it's two women together ( be it a bi or a lesbian or 2 bi women) that had been so for decades. Tried Google and just kept giving me results about bi women with men winch is the last thing I wanna hear, so it gets frustrating lol.
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>>210803>Tried Google and just kept giving me results about bi women with men I thought you were joking but jesus it's true. This is why I lurk lesbian places more, I just don't really get the whole thing with men
No. 210846
>>210841Same. I'd also rather be single until I die than be with a shitty man.
>>210842I feel like a lot of them give up or not even try because women tend to be more passive and wait to be approached (ime). Men literally throw themselves at you and there's more of them than women so.. yea. It really sucks. I also met a few women who were aware of being bi but ignored their attraction to women.
No. 210900
>>210846Luckily I'm at least willing to approach women and may try bars and a dating app or two and other types of events to approach women. I suppose me and everyone in this thread has to be their own Bisexual sapphic febfem whatever the hell you want to call yourself example since it's so scarce.
At least I will try to be positive in spite of myself lol
No. 211170
>>211135You need to learn how to drop small dogwhistles and ease into to the topic. Women in the community who are not straight passing like you are, have nowhere else to turn if they get outed as terfy. There is no het life to turn to, they lose it all. Have some empathy for people that are just trying to belong to the community at a time when it's so hostile to exist as a "wlw". Trust me though there are
tons of non handmaidens out there and a lot of the themby's are actually pretty insecure in their identity and just need a good female role model to break free of the cult.
No. 211303
>>211273Oh I hear that for sure, and it’s awful/disgusting, especially the way they can pretend nothing is wrong. It’s still a good example.
>>211274I’m so, so sorry that your experience with a woman was tainted and tragic instead of a nice one. Very true about the way men appear once you realize that they’re….well men and women are much better 9/10 times. I hope you can recover from those incidents and not have to settle for a moid,
nonny, but it’s also okay if you truly love the dude. That’s bisexuality babey lol
No. 211424
>>211422Doja cat? Shit I'm not the only one that thinks she's so pretty wtf
I'm not sure who else to include in my three way but just Doja would be peachy
No. 211435
>>211433this retarded quote
>She has not yet formally come out or made a definitive statement about her sexual orientation, but has stated that she "like[s] both. I like dicks and I also like, um, I like people that I can have sex with. You can kind of have sex with anybody, right?"and every aspect about her seems fake and insincere in general (but that's most celebs tbh)
No. 211493
>>211435Weak as fuck
>>211161Doechii and KStew
No. 211700
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i feel like the Kinsey scale is more male oriented and a female one would look more like picrel, many of the women who feel like they're bi when they have a string of boyfriends are fooled into believing that because of male based definitions of sexuality.
sorry to all the nonas who identify as bi when they're at 1.5-2, you're striaght.
No. 211902
>>211838Even if you trying to hit it and quit I'd avoid being this chicks "unicorn"
No amount of coom is worth getting involved with Poly people
No. 211906
>>211700I’m a 2 on the Kinsey scale, and I agree with the description because I have only been in straight relationships, but I would absolutely have sex with a woman… What does that make me?
I agree with
>>211828 in that comphet has completely ruined what my experiences could have been. I tried to experiment while at college but was laughed at by my friends because they didn’t believe I could be bi, and the girl I happened to like was pretending to be bi.(Why do people do that?)
Anyway I’m in a straight relationship now, and I’m happy. I have niggling thoughts of what could have been but I’m just too old to start experimenting with my sexuality now.
No. 211951
>>211700I think you are just erasing actual lesbians and heterosexual women here. Being bi is more common for women, we dont need to force the ratio of bi and monosexuality to be the same as in moids.
t. probably a 3 on the scale
No. 212062
>>212061Then it's bullshit by the author's definition lol
I rather take my definition of "comphet" then. I would call it Beardimg since it's not unheard of for homosexuals to use heterosexual bonds to mask their sexuality but with bisexuals it's always a bit more complicated and situation ofc.
But tangents aside, Women are the shit.
No. 212063
>>212062Bearding is real, "comphet" is insane schizo shit.
Anyway, I love women. Love to date one one day. Damn this Eastern Euro shithole.
No. 212066
>>212065Oh I will soon enough and move to Europe where my chances are at least a bit increased.
Other then stressing about being dating material for girls and what not I'm mildly hopeful and optimistic
No. 212464
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Why is it that when I fantasise about having sex with a guy I want him to be big and strong and take control like an old school smut novel, but when I fantasise about girls I want a pillow princess who I can tease and go down on for hours?
No. 212520
>>212457Are any of those aside Shame even bi?
>>212464I dont know but shit taste lmao.
No. 212547
>>212457Neither, do you have a girl version?
From the bunch I only find Ezra kinda cute
No. 212580
>>212464i feel like it's a pretty common bi experience to be submissive with men but dominant with women. i'm mostly the same except i like to switch with both.
>>212520morrissey is bi and had a boyfriend. i might even fuck young morrissey cause of vidrel but not old morrissey. of the woke group i'd pick harry in his dorothy costume.
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>>212580I'm pretty sure Morrissey's sexuality is general distaste for the human race, not even joking, with that being said He was very good looking when young and
problematic bi bf is objectively better than woke bi bf.
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>>212580I'm all about dominating men and being nicer to the ladies.
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What are your thoughts on TATU? I loved their music when I was younger. I heard one of them is super homophobic though. I think one is also bi?
No. 212986
>>212980The homophobic one, Yulia, was bi and she said she wouldn't want a gay son because, in a nutshell, men being gay isn't the same as women being gay.
Queen moment.
No. 213030
>>213006I know, and it’s happening
I think I’m lesbian
No. 213111
>>213109I'm the exact opposite.
For women it's whatever (just don't be overweight and too mentally ill) but for men it's very very specific
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There's been some drama on my twitter feed today about bi women who haven't dated other women (don't follow any of these people but somebody I follow replied disagreeing). What do you think?
No. 213494
>>213490It's twitter, just stay away from the brain rot.
Being lgbt is incredibly trendy right now and people are jumping on the trend. Nothing new and the same crap about "bihet" women has been said since the early 2000s
No. 213496
>>213490>>213491These sorts of comments are so annoying to me, why do women always have to prove themselves? Yes, I’m sure a lot of women say they’re bi to sound cool and don’t really mean it, but it’s not my place to judge or decide that for them. Some of us
did grow up in conservative areas and were constantly told that same-sex attraction is a one way ticket to hell, and some of us have a hard time coming to terms with it as adults. I don’t understand why some people feel the need to think so deeply about other people’s sexual orientation.
No. 213504
>>213490People are always debating bi women's sexuality, what's new?
>>213496>why do women always have to prove themselves? This is part of the reason why I can't take this stuff seriously anymore
even if I sometimes agree with some of the stuff they say. I don't like to use the "but why can't women do the same stuff as men!" argument, but I hate that these people always want bi women to prove themselves, but not bi men. I feel like whenever I see people talk about bi men, it's about whether or not women are allowed to reject men for being bisexual.
No. 213601
>>213490I've slept with women but haven't dated one seriously. I'd love to but the numbers just aren't in my favor here. Sometimes that's all it is.
That and I'm too chickenshit to approach women whereas men do all the approaching usually. It happens. Men are easy to get and women can be intimidating because you do think highly of other women and value them and fear rejection more from them.
No. 213926
>>213819I get your point; though it can still be none the less frustrating to be attracted to women as Bisexual and being demeaned over it
( I'm still not mad at lesbians for it because not every lesbian has a knee jerk reaction to me or my sexuality. Some Do, but there not worth the effort to be too pressed about)
No. 214368
>>214266I found a ~Sapphic~ discord server that has a bit of woke brainot and polyshits there and there but it's largely apolitical ( more so then I was expecting) and pretty chill and I feel weirdly welcomed in there even if I don't agree with the politics and what not. I guess my expectations were pretty low but there's not much you can choose unless you want to do a community yourself
If so hit me up lolol
No. 214461
>>214442The one I'm at is called
Sappho gang on discord But frankly I'm half way considering doing a Bisexual only girl club but I'm not sure how well that would go in theory or if I have the stuffing to run it.
No. 215926
>>215866It
is exaggerated, insecure bihets who are mad that a lesbian told them they're not gay for dating men exclusively and only making out with other women as a fun experiment made it into a meme.
>I married a man 4 years ago after I broke up with my previous Nigel of 5 years but I had a girlfriend for two weeks when I was 16 so it doesn't make me less knowledgeable about gay issues! Stop erasing my bisexuality you ugly fat dykes, to think that a fellow LGBT person would be so judgmental! No. 215972
>>215951Yup. I even complained anonymously in my server about not always believing when a woman is bisexual ( or lesbian) and got shot down lolol.
Like as if you don't have a third sense about this shit or can't look at someone's dating history and draw conclusions. Especially since i don't think every woman is lying anyhow
No. 215981
>>215972It seems really dumb and naive to think nobody ever lies about their sexuality, like that uwu everyone is
valid shit when really it's obvious that being gay or bi has become a woke trend. Although in 2021 I'd expect more women to lie about being "pansexual" or queer than bi.
No. 216059
>>215981True; or a non descript sapphic/ WlW.
Though i don't think there's nothing inheritly wrong with neither sapphic or queer as descriptive terms, the straights ruined it for me.
( pity as Sapphic is a pretty nice sounding term; Queer can go die in a ditch)
No. 216107
>>216099Kek I wish I could offer advice, but I really relate. The few openly bi women I met irl were just looking for casual hookups, it was hard to meet another woman genuinely interested in a relationship and not just wanting a fling/unicorn or to “experiment.” I’m sure they’re out there but it’s hard, even more difficult now with Covid. Good luck to you
nonnie.
No. 216111
>>216099I wish i could offer an advise but does your area have LGB(T) driven events? Gay bars? Are in a position legally or otherwise of hosting an event? Have you looked at Social media groups with a strong lesbian/ bisexual focus? ( even if Woke-ish there's always caveats and you can even see if there's apolitical ones or those that exclude troons but aren't ~Terfy~ / prime fertile ground for Cryptoterfs/ Radfems or those that can be peaked if you are worried about this type of shit or have low tolerance of it.)
There's ways i can think of that you can meet women without the clownery of dating apps and i will at least try some myself before i dabble with dating apps.
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>>216099I'd love to know how to meet women too. I have in the past but not many at all. The problem for me is I live a very isolated life and only really chat to people a little at work, I don't have IRL friends I can go to bars or groups with and I don't want to post selfies on Facebook for joining ~wlw~ groups because I prefer to keep to myself on public social media. I guess it's a problem if it prevents me from finding someone, apps are hard to begin with and I'm already in my late 20s. Sorry for the vent kek but you're not alone, I feel clueless about it all too and keep talking to men out of loneliness more than anything else.
No. 216233
>>216155Honestly about bars/ events i half way expect my first times to be done alone before i can find anyone to mingle or befriend; so you may need to at least ease up to the idea of breaking out of your shell nonita.
Also your age shouldn't matter too much. You aren't
that old ( it's not like your 50) and you'll likely be able to find a girl within her mid twenties to late 20s at least or in their very early 30s if you don't mind dating slightly older.
If there a lesbian rather then bi, it's very likely they haven't dated much if at all. LGs with little dating experience or sexual background aren't as uncommon as one is led to believe ( not everyone is blessed to live in a big city, let alone one with a gay scene. I only meet one open lesbian in my school with a gf in college in my last year of HS and two bisexuals and both were dating guys in HS. The rest of my classmates we're all straight and no one in my school really knew i was bisexual)
No. 216371
>>216359Just suck it up and go to your local events anyway. Even if only 5% of the people there are actually normal LGB people, that's more lesbians and bi women than you could possibly meet by just staying at home. When interacting with troons at events, use "they" unless they correct you and grey rock them.
>>216155No one cares if you go to bars or meetups alone. You just have to pretend you are confident and having fun and approach people. My favorite opening lines are
>Hey, are you here alone? Me too! I'm anon.>Hey, I don't think we've met before. I'm anon.>I love your shoes/shirt/dress/etc! >You guys look like you're having fun! Mind if I join you?>Have you been here before? This is my first time here.>Is that food/beverage good? Don't worry about looking stupid. If the people you are approaching don't like you, you'll never have to see them again. I go to clubs or bars and just introduce myself to people until I find someone who wants to hang out with me. I usually can get at least a couple of people's contact info every time I do this. It also helps to have instagram or snapchat. I don't really use either, but I've been thinking about making accounts, since most people under 30 seem to prefer connecting through social media rather than texting. For reference, I'm in my mid 20s and reasonably attractive but a literal sperg.
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Can anyone here relate to this? It comes off a bit immature to me but maybe the OP is young
No. 216774
>>216722Yeah i agree with others; if she was Bi, i think she'd angst more about being ashamed of her desires/ affection if she was struggling to see herself with nothing but men, or otherwise feeling unsatisfied/ a bit trapped by it.
(I was sort of like that, but then a switch flipped and i realized that i could date girls and had the capacity of it, kinda of all in my own because it's something that happened in my past/ inherit to me. )
No. 216781
>>216722Agree with the others. Sadly r/bisexual will say that anyone is
valid and bi, even if a woman thought once to maybe kiss a girl in a dream 10 years ago and never again.
No. 216787
>>216722>cant stop seeing women as only friendsOkay this sounds straight. I used to be ashamed and scared of dating women, but I always had the sexual attraction and crushes.
>>216784Women are so oversexualised in society that is no wonder teens get confused if they want to have close friends or admire the looks of other girls.
No. 216831
>>216787The problem is if you suggest someone might just be confused now you get accused of gatekeeping and being a bad bi kek. I don't think it's helpful to the bi community (whatever that is) to make all our discussions about how everyone is always
valid no matter what
No. 217015
>>216953True; the only bis that have a right to complain extensively are those that were given a shit hand by actually prioritizing the same sex or having same sex partners ( and arguably the bisexual women that have to bend over backwards usually to prove their bi or that their same sex attraction is legit) , since Homophobes/ ignorant people don't care if you can technically like the opposite sex if you are a target of bigotry-
There's bigger fish to fry y'know
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>>217581DA it's because their gushing is strictly PG rated. Pic not really rel just very annoying
No. 217916
Absolutely retarded vent incoming, I think some of you might be able to relate as well. Funny how literally every single woman online is bi while I've yet to meet one irl who is into women the way they play online they soo are. I tried dating apps, like really, and most women on there were bi, not unexpected but when I tried to get with them I was met with "but I still have feelings for my male friend/exbf" and one of them literally just added me to vent about her ex and the one other just asked whether she should get with her male friend, I just said to go for it. Like, maybe it's because I'm ugly as fuck? I'd expect a woman on a dating app matching with another woman to at least be open to the prospect of dating a woman? I don't think that's too much to fucking ask. I did get with a lady who was in the city for her cousin's marriage, it was kind of a bust but I digress. I'm just venting. They posture all "omg mommy step on me" online, overcompensating really, but have no game in real life and are so obviously not into sex with women. Or maybe I'm taking it all too personal getting blatantly rejected and maybe, there just aren't that many bi/lesbian women where I live. I just get highhopes seeing so many women online embrace their attraction to women but it doesn't translate to irl, or all of them have already been taken.
No. 218307
When this happened, I was drunk and didn't think too much of it, but the sober daytime gave me some time to stew over it and get upset lol.
I was at a party and meshing pretty well with these girls I'd just met, definitely wlw vibes. They asked me if I "liked girls", and I said "Yeah, I like girls too!" which I thought would imply that I'm bi.
We exchange social media handles and one of them sees my pfp with my husband and says, "Ew, I thought you were a hot lesbian? You're with a man??" and I said, "Yeah, he's pretty cool. He also has lesbian parents so I lucked out." She said, "You're still in a straight relationship though".
The night went on as normal, but I woke up feeling upset that yet again biphobia is alive and well in my social circles. I'm sick of people pretending biphobia is exaggerated or a non-issue. Imagine the language being turned around so that it was a straight person judging a bi person for being in a same-sex relationship.
No. 218463
>>218307>"Ew, I thought you were a hot lesbian? You're with a man??"This totally happened
>Imagine the language being turned around so that it was a straight person judging a bi person for being in a same-sex relationship.People aren't oppressed for being straight lmao
No. 218564
>>218558if i'm going to be a dumbass on anon i'm going to go all out and complete my
victim complex cycle
No. 220892
>>219052We met at a dating app. She did have a boyfriend while seeing me, I only heard about it when they broke up. (The reason was that the second gf of the moid didnt want to be poly anymore lol.)
>>220754She is very attractive, not some blue haired tumblr nerd. But yeah I think it is not going to work.
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Being a femme/straight passing bisexual women into femmes is such a struggle sometimes and letting my mind go GRUG UNGA BUNGA over women I don't know irl helps me cope. Would literally crawl through a mile of broken glass just to touch a square inch of charli XCXs skin.
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>>221626This is my ideal relationship
No. 222318
>>221871>bisexual women who prefer feminine women are just spicy straights because feminine women are the mainstream standard and they have obviously just internalized the male gazeThis is the shuwu type of bihet that only wants femmes so that they can conveniently pass as "best friends" instead of lovers and that potential male Nigels don't find her an "ugly dyke" right away and they can hit it up immediately.
>bisexual women who prefer masculine women are just spicy straights because they obviously see masculine women as men-liteThis is the type of bi type who's male attracted but wants to make sure her partner doesn't cheat on her like a moid would so she takes a butch whose dating pool is indefinitely smaller to be her lap dog. Often tries to gradually turn her into a femme to become the one described above.
I'm being hyperbolic of course but you wanted a fight kek
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apparently lesbians would rather fuck a tranny agp than a bisexual woman. lovely.
No. 224030
>>223917it's also because bisexuals who
could be attracted to them won't see them as the gender they want to be. they won't see a "woman" but maybe a prettyboy at most if they're decent looking
No. 224094
>>224088>MFFmaybe if he was being used sexually and held hostage by two women or something it would be hot, but otherwise 0/10
>MMFWith double penetration utilized, 9.5/10
>FFFmythical fantasy 10/10
>anything with a troonftm could range from cute to depressing, mtf smelly
No. 224133
>>224125>Also my ideal MFF scenario would be something like me and a gf seducing a man together, not the cliche unicorn shitSo fulfilling the same "hawt lesbians" scrote fantasy as the unicorn shit except with a slightly different angle? Kek
>If it involved one or two FTMs I’d be very into it.First time I ever hear of someone having a fetish for Aidens
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>>224088With right people, I am down for all.
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>>224088Gross. No troon gets close to me.
No. 224622
>>224461>>224456What did the deleted post say? It probably was a tranny.
Most people who hate on bi women are troonsbians. Kek.
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This might be cringe
No. 224966
>>224958sorry you're
triggered i didn't like your post about being a "slutty cokwhore (together with your girlfriend because you totally like women too!!!!)"
No. 227077
>>226997idk if this will be unpopular, but lady gaga comes across as a clout bi to me. i like her music but not her ~queer~ image. she says her poker face song is about bisexuality/ constantly thinking about women during sex with a man, but i've never seen her actually date a woman. she's dated like ~7 men since coming out as bi, but no women? i don't think your thoughts are consumed with fucking women as much as you say they are, lady. there are rumors of women she's slept with but she's never dated women publically or confirmed any of that. when you wanna be a bicon but the only instances of you having gay sex and relationships are unanswered rumors i start to get suspect.
also adding that katy perry sucks, probably the most cringe "queer" celebrity
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I like Tove Lo and was a bit sad to hear she's never dated a woman even though she says she slept with them. I think she's cute. I also like Doja Cat (kek), Drew Barrymore and Dana Terrace (animation cow) in that I think they're cute but who knows if they've ever dated a woman either. It's hard for a lot of us but surely easier if you're famous?
No. 227341
>>227339What would you consider gay/bi female taste in women,
nonny?
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I'm so upset, there's no winning.
My lesbian best friend found out I have a boyfriend and she felt betrayed. She told me "I could do so much better" which I understand but then she told me about all the "bi" women who she was interested in ended up with men and how they won't chose her. That hurt, she doesn't know the amount of women who have rejected me because I've dated a male in the past, the women who look down upon you because you are bisexual and that's alright, you should be able to reject anyone you don't want. What hurts me is when I go and get along with a male and end up dating him suddenly I "can do better" suddenly I am a "bi-het" suddenly I was never attracted to women in the first place.
There is no winning, I can't be pure enough for a woman and that kills me.
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I’m turning 28 this year and I’m still pining over my best friend with a bf like I’m a closeted middle schooler. You think I’d learn better by now. The worst part is she talks about loving me and dating one day and how we’ll probably end up together one day but she’s just not ready to leave her shitty boyfriend I guess? I just laugh it off but it’s like a needle under my fingernails every time.
No. 229562
>>229556>she literally propositions me to make out or even have sex>bf>she’ll be like “I wish I could have both of you,”Yikes.
Please move on and don't let this idealized crush on a very selfish woman get in your way from actually meeting someone worthwhile.
No. 230023
>>221871Late to the party but I love you
nonny. This is too funny.
No. 238016
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From now own I'll only date bisexual women, I am sick and tired of puritanism. And I am sick of not being able to have this conversation in bisexual spaces, every time someone wants to get off their chest the horrible treatment lesbians put us through some random white knight comes yelling "SCROTE", "KYS", "XYZPHOBIC". I don't give a fuck anymore, we bisexual women should leave the LBG (queers too) and let the L's and G's tear each other apart alone. I swear dating feels literally like a job interview, I got so tired that right off the bat I have to say "Yes I've fucked men" and "Yes I TRULY love women" like ffs, I understand that "fake bis" of the past come haunting lesbians in their dreams??? or some shit I don't fucking know like some lesbians won't be friends with you because they see you beneath them in the purity scale. I am completely and utterly done.
also that stupid dumbass moid tier kinsey scale shit needs to die, stop "spectrumfying" sexuality, fuck off.
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>>238032I'm not wrong tho
No. 238184
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>>238180They are fucking misogynistic and no amount of ass kissing is gonna change that.
No. 238412
>>238397Yeah it's cringy, but it might ward off idiotic gender specials and "anti-terves". I also welcome more terven ideas of what to put in a dating profile.
Febfem is a good idea, I'd like to find someone like that.
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Sorry a boo hoo bpd bislut story incoming
I am so tired. I miss women (specifically my ex gf) so much I often cry. I have dreams about women at least weekly. I left my ex gf for a moid a couple years ago when we were on a break, due to horrible drama and abuse from both sides and sexual issues (I always made her cum SO many times, but she told me I'm a rapist if I expect her to fo anything for me). She slit up her legs for me to not leave her, but I fucking did it anyway.
The reason I wanted to jump into a relationship with my current bf is that he said he is also bisexual, and would like an open relationship / FMM shit where he would get dicked down (I am sorry I am a coomer at heart). He later went back on his word, and in addition turned out to be extremely jealous. I lost frieds partly due to it. My ex has understandably cut all contact, though not before sexting me she misses me and thinks me during sex with her multiple gfs. When we were together she said she was probably asexual and made me feel like a horrible sex pest.
So now I have laid my bed with my actions, and I have to live with it. I absolutely hate missing women so much. I can't understand where the desire for my bf went, and why his body feels so wrong because it's not a woman's. I have legitimately considered religious conversion therapy, even though I am not even a church member. I want to rip the gay part out and be a good little waif, who only wants to serve her husband. Getting married feels like a fucking awful tought though, and I have nightmares about it. But I do not deserve women either, as I am the stereotypical bihettie just looking for some thrill teehee. No woman I have been with actually wanted me, or would want because of how I am. I can't leave my bf because he is actually all I have and I don't want to ruim his life too. I just feel more and more like kyssing is the only way out.
Yes I am very mentally ill I know thank you
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>>238325>>238490>>238688Go simp for your dykes to the lesbian thread, I don't give a fuck about this circular "Bisexual women prefer MEN and I as a lesbian would never give them a chance therefore they were ALWAYS straight in disguise" bullshit.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17405904.2014.974634Here's the whole fucking thesis if you are interested
No. 238717
>>238706I'm not reading that lmao, claiming that lesbians are at fault for your own mental illness while also claiming that messy bis are just a stereotype is hilarious.
Judging from how much lesbians seem to make you seethe while you call them sluts and dykes but also try to viciously argue Bi women/male majority is just bullshit, there is only one conclusion to make.
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>>238745Here's a screenshot of my "schizo link" if anyone wants go off with the tranny bullshit.
No. 240528
>>239900cosigning this
All my grand romances have been with bisexual women. This has got to be some mostly internet based conflict or concern, right? I hate the term 'wlw' because it's cause everyone's afraid of the term 'same-sex relationship/attraction nowadays, but at least it shows lesbian and bi women are out and about in the world. usually complaining on twitter or posting cottagecore stuff, but still
No. 241211
>>238465So let me get this straight
>Had an abusive relationship with a bpd-chan with a one-sided sex life of her being a pillow princess >Left said abusive bitch for a moid only because you wanted to see him get fucked by another man>Ex slit her legs when you left her>Turns out the man lied about being bi and was a possessive, jealous scrote who drove your friends away>Now you're dreaming of conversion therapy to pray the gay away and refusing to leave the piece of shit moid because "he's all you have"There's so much to unpack but surprisingly enough this isn't the first or the last time I've seen this happen. Have you ever been in a functional relationship? Gay and bi people are subjected to minority stress a lot and develop personality disorders and mental health issues due to the ostracization and abuse caused by homophobia so they can become crazy fuckers, driving bisexuals and gay people memed into comphet into escaping into a heterosexual relationship because they think it's guaranteed stability from all the craziness. Of course in their vulnerable state they get taken advantage of a lot and I constantly see bisexual women leave their needy bipolar girlfriend for a man only to be unhappy in a different way and longing for a lesbian relationship.
As a personal anecdote I know this girl who had a ridiculously
abusive relationship with an absolutely horrible girlfriend, after breaking up she dated only men due to her trauma. However years after she started dating a girl by chance, with whom she fell in love with hard and became happier than she had ever been with a man. So you're not at all in the wrong for longing for a female relationship and giving it time you might find the woman of your life and realize what actual, healthy love means. Just work on your own mental issues for the time being instead of trying to find someone, male or female, to dump them on and learn to be alone for a moment.
No. 245258
>>244888So you are attracted to your partner still, but besides them you lose interest in that gender/sex?
Have you had experience with that?
(I guess It’s hard to believe that stuff won’t bleed into the relationship)
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does anybody else really hate "bi culture" type posts? they always pick the fugliest men (i.e. brendon urie) and reduce bisexuality into this clean, SFW, tumblr-ified version of what it actually is. sorry if somebody's said this before but i wanted to get it off my chest
No. 246259
>>246246Why are you here, just to seethe?
>>246163I know Morrissey is apparently a
problematic moid but fuck if I don't love The Smiths with all my heart. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out is my anthem, I love it so fucking much. It was my and my ex gf's "the song"
No. 246262
>>246259to make fun of how mentally ill you are. "yeah i have cycles where i'm not attracted to my partner, that's totally a real sexuality and not a mental illness and btw if anyone refuses to fuck me i will cry and link them gender studies basket-weaving papers on why that's
problematic"
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>>246262Why are the baiters always in our thread, jfc.
No. 246304
>>246259Morrissey being
problematic only makes me like him more. Don’t even agree with his opinions I'm just tired of people assuming everyone who isn’t straight has the same politics. tfw no unwoke bi bf
No. 246983
>>246917Abort it immediately. Agree with
>>246982 though, maybe she's a normie whom I could troonpill, but women deep into the kweer fandom are not worth it, they generally are very vocal about their opinions and easy to detect, so I wouldn't even talk to them in the first place.
No. 246988
>>246917pansexual is a no go but i frequently just call myself queer as a blanket term because bisexuals get unwarranted questions of authenticity from people
also queer is an oldass term whereas pansexual is nuage twittershit
No. 247082
>>247002Yeah, I grew up in a really small town so I heard queer used as an insult too many times to feel comfortable with the term as an adult, especially because some of that was directed at my lesbian relative who I have always looked up to. It seems like it really has become a hip term for spicy straight people though as
>>247009 said, pretty insulting to actual homosexuals and bisexuals
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>>247082>pretty insulting to actual homosexuals and bisexualsyou don't get to decide who's legitimate or not because they use words you don't like, fucking twittertard. go outside and speak to other humans for once
No. 247553
>>247547I’m not bi myself so sorry but maybe if you remind yourself that no matter what you changed about yourself, you’d be read as feminine and specifically in this case, the expression of it that he is attracted to strongly enough to override his usual preferences. Everything female about you is just your existence and not something variable, you know? So it’s a matter of exercising self respect rather than relating to a sense of femininity.
Also, on the topic of being uncomfortable, like, being female around him. Remember that you’re just two people together and you being a girl and he a boy doesn’t mean anything extra, so don’t feel like you have to match up to or meet any new criteria.
No. 247557
>>247484If you lose interest after a year he probably isnt right for you. Did you just pick the first person who was attracted to you and nice? I have done that myself and those relationships sucked.
>>247547Maybe just try internalise the fact that straight relationships dont have to have stereotypical gender roles. Is there something he could be unknowingly doing to make you feel dysphoria? Like in sex or compliments of your body, comments about the periods etc.
No. 247560
>>247551yeah, that's the issue, i don't know what the root is. i know i'm attracted to men, and i know i'm attracted to him specifically. but men just aggravate my dysphoria for some reason…
>>247553i don't know how to exercise self-respect in that regard… i used to have such low self esteem. i got better on my own though. he has a psychologist friend he wants me to meet, she's a woman so i'm thiking i'd bring it up with her. when i'm with a woman, we both have periods so i don't mind. but around him i feel ashamed for having normal female function…
>>247557yeah, you're right. i actually really like that he's shorter than me, haha. and i like to walk on the left (where men usually walk) and act like the man in the relationship. i don't think he's doing anything unknowingly other than having a Y chromosome…
No. 247583
>>247560>feeling ashamed over female functions (Ayrt and I mean you absolutely no disrespect or blame in the following btw)
Oof. Sounds like you have some residual misunderstood or negative associations with femaleness/womanhood deep inside. When everyone is the same, being female is neutral right? But then around men, societal gender appears, evoking comparison and those bad associations.
Without going too deep into it, being female (as an organism and socially from an existential/moral standpoint) is not worse than being male in any regard. More relevantly to you, femaleness is also completely neutral to observe. It isn’t an offence or affront to anyone else’s nature, nor does it deserve to be diminished.
For example, periods are lit —gorey af, metal to experience and poetically godlike in the wider sense. At the same time, menstruating while somebody else isn’t, doesn’t do anything to that person and they won’t think anything about it. Neither should you, as it’s too good a personal attribute to want to ‘fix’.
Maybe you feel like you need to be taken differently by others for the way you are as a person to make sense? Maybe in your attraction to men, the ‘boyishness’ or ‘coolness’ you like, feels unattainable? The thing here, is that femininity should begin and end at femaleness. Despite how culture is gendered, when people like/see you, they also like the attributes you might see as masculine, it’s just as shiny and attractive. It also doesn’t bother or confuse anyone, so you don’t need to make up for or enhance it.
Self respect in this situation, is just understanding that there’s nothing wrong with you. Respecting your womanhood in this case and not allowing perceptions of maleness to diminish it. When confronted with what it seems someone else has, still holding your own version in good esteem.
Men can be however they are and you’ll still be perfect. Your boyfriend loves you as you are and so should you. I also hope everything goes well with the psychologist and you feel better!
No. 247618
>>247583i think my biggest issue is that i honestly wish he would just belittle me for being female and beat me. lol. i have the exact opposite problem wherein i wish i had an
abusive partner but they've all been so nice to me regardless of sex and paradoxically it hurts more because i'm not used to it. cluster B much huh.
>>247610at risk of sounding insane, which i do not deny being, i started starving myself and realised trooning was an inferior negative coping mechanism
No. 247735
>>247695How about the troons, did you notice them as well? This is one of the biggest reason I'm reluctant to download an app.
>too well adjustedWhat do you mean by that?
No. 248366
>>247825You can just date men, right? How were they sexually
abusive? If you view anything sexual with a woman as
abusive and get uncomfortable from the thought of being with any women, you're probably straight already.
No. 248449
>>248290I wonder of this has to do with culture and region.
I don't feel safer with a man because the thought always on my mind is "how can I protect myself from him if ever comes to that". I'm from a country where femicide is very high and people are pretty much desensitized to male violence, and this is how I was raised, with my own father telling me "if you ever own a gun, don't tell your boyfriend", knowing from a young age how to keep secrets from men and never completely trust any of them. I feel I would be safer with a woman except for the fact that we would have to deal with homophobia, which I obviously wouldn't worry about with a man. There are two types of danger there. In the end, I feel safer being single.
No. 249167
>>248800I'm an oldfag, been with men and women over the years and I find the difference in attraction interesting. I could see an image of pretty much any naked stranger of a woman who is around my age and within a healthy weight bracket and see her as sexually appealing. There's bonus points for certain traits that I like but it's really not hard to find that physical appeal in women.
With men I have to find that one-in-ten-thousand guy whose face I like initially and then I've to get attached to him as a person.. and over time I can start to see his naked body as appealing and something I'd want to interact with. Which has happened before but like.. I do question why it's so much harder to find a man attractive an all levels. That last little stage of finally reaching 'even your penis is appealing' is a rare find for me and it's getting rarer with age too. If I wasn't living in such a homophobic place I'd give up on men given those odds are against me.
No. 249330
>>248800For me it's like… I do not know if I am attracted to men or just the attention they give and the excitement of a new relationship (I'm a BPD looney demon so those are like the core of my being - also name a more iconic duo than BPD and bisexuality). I like men's faces in pics and irl, but their bodies do nothing for me. I do find sex with men uhhh nice I guess, but I never come (without toys) or with hookups, so I think it's partly because of the attention.
Then again, I remember reading how women are kind of raised and trained to find women sexually appealing, since women are objectified so much by the media. Plus some straight women watch lesbian porn and some lesbians gay male porn so ????
Sometimes I wish I was born a moid. Their sexuality is much more straight forward and simple.
No. 249468
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>>249330oh my god, I'm a BPD bisexual too!! Let's be friends.
And on the topic of attraction, tbh because of all the rejection I've received I just stopped questioning what I like and why I like it. In my personal case I like both men and women equally but if that's not the case with you don't beat yourself over it, is normal. You don't have to justify your sexuality to anyone, just do what you want, is already hard as it is go have fun instead. <3
No. 249507
>>249238i used to find ftms hot until i saw the "t dick" thing and it repulses me. microdicks are the least attractive things on the human body imo and a piece of female anatomy mimicking that from hormone usage is just vile to me.
i also would not be able to date a ftm with tit scars. those, too, make me feel physically nauseous.
No. 249527
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>>249506BPD BIS UNITE!
>I feel like a fucking demonyes absolutely, the stigma is so fucked up and prevalent that it comes from literally all the other groups (L, G and straight) including ours at times. I hope you feel less alone now that you found a fellow demon girl. <3 much love <3
No. 250375
>>249513God this reminds me that not only am I the BPD bihettie from earlier, I think I'm ALSO poly. God I wish I was not like this. I have actually not been in a poly relationship ever not will I probably ever be (poly people look DISGUSTANG so often lol) but I have issues with wanting to have sex/relationship with multiple people I cannot get rid of. I think it has to be connected to the BPD and wanting validation for sure. I just absolutely hate being a walking stereotype.
>>249527I love u nonna!
No. 250994
>>250990I don't understand why so many other bi anons say this kind of stuff. You don't have to be proud your sexuality but this self-loathing thing is dumb. Excluding men from your dating pool is always an option. Of course that attraction is never going to go away, but why feel ashamed of that? Just let yourself be attracted to men. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with you.
Maybe what I'm saying sounds callous, but I just don't like seeing bi women say they don't like themselves. Our natural attraction isn't anything to be ashamed of. If you really feel that way then maybe it's time to take a break from LC.
No. 250999
>>249513i'm a woman who dresses alt, sometimes in a more androgynous way and i'm not a fakeboi or theyby, don't give up hope anon we're out here
>>250990you can't help who you're attracted to so there's no point in being ashamed. sometimes it helps to remember that you have no obligation to date or cater to men just because there are some who you're attracted to, but if you do end up with a guy there's nothing wrong with that either. don't be hard on yourself for something you can't help that isn't even inherently a bad thing
No. 252471
I've had a sort of epiphany which is improving my life so much. I've been questioning my bisexuality actually, but I don't feel comfortable stating that I am a lesbian, as it feels disrespectful. I've never been in a romantic relationship or had any physical contact with anybody at all, but I've spent the past year trying to "fix" myself and make myself palatable to men (I'm an androgynous-looking, tall autist) out of societal pressure, while being uncomfortable with the actual presence of men. I'm realizing that I should just totally lean into my androgyny. Since I was younger, I've been read as lesbian constantly, even by straight people. And several women have even flirted with me. I've just lacked the confidence to flirt back or be playful at all. I've been working on my physical fitness – jogging, and I'm gonna get back into weight training. I've become so much happier in the process of trying to appeal to women instead of men. I'm working on becoming more confident and assertive, and seeking out help for my mental health issues. (I generally think that, in my personal experience, women find my depression less palatable than men do, because my lack of self confidence is something that men see as something to exploit) Just feeling kinda free. IDK.
No. 252484
>>252471That's really nice anon! Self improvement should be for yourself first, but there is nothing wrong with wanting to be a better person before eventually finding a partner (if you want one) I resonate with you because I used to try and look 'palatable' to other people, aka look like a normie to fit in with other girls, and while it did give me some attention I never really felt right trying to keep up that facade. I had really long hair but ended up shaving it all off and of course that made me look weird to some people but honestly I felt better like that then trying to fit into a boring mold. I am trying more bizzare looks with my style and though it puts some people off the people I do meet that like it are more the people I want to be around anyway. It sucks we are conditioned to seek approval from people we don't even fucking like sometimes, I don't know why, that's society I guess.
I think you'll meet someone who notices your confidence in yourself and will appreciate and grow with that ♥
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Thought that this fits here
No. 253259
>>253212sorry for off topic but yes… this was years ago during the darkest time of my life when i was on birth control for acne. i literally cant forgive myself. i fully consented but when i recall those moments its like that scene in event horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwqv3mZsyMidk what i was thinking. i got this idea in my head that fucking a guy was this social milestone i needed to reach to stop being such a dyke autist…
how old are you? do the memories ever fade?
No. 253803
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My ex-friend in high school was not a good friend at all, but was at the same time. I've been thinking about how she told me I hate how when I'm around you, I feel like I can act weird. And I think she meant she felt safe to be herself around me. This would have been pleasant to hear if she wasn't such a bitch to me most of the time, but had she been any other woman I probably would have passed out from love. I have a bf now though. I'm very happy with him, but sometimes I think about what could have been…
No. 254182
>>253198it's hard to say because a lot of bi women have extremely conflicted, negative feelings about men and don't want to actually date them, despite being occasionally attracted. that said, the gold star shit IS psycho and extremely stupid.
i don't want lesbians who did self-harm or tried to get with a man due to insecurity to identify as bi when they're not, BUT i don't think agonizing over whether you're gay or bi is good for you at all. i'd say don't worry about it just yet and focus on healing your shame/anxiety while dating only who you want to date. it'll all fall into place eventually.
No. 254273
>>254245lesbians aren't harassing women who've had sex with men or rape
victims but hide the insecurity they cause you behind that excuse i guess
No. 254289
>>254287what does this even mean? where did i ever imply that? you are legitimately making shit up at this point.
>>254286ohhhh now i get it. YOU'RE one of those insane bitches i was talking about! no wonder
No. 254298
>>254289You were right, anon just has a
victim complex.
No. 254320
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Damn I kinda want all the Bi nonnies to feel good about themselves and their sexuality but I know the stigma and push back is fucking venomous. I wanna tell you to not give up but I am also an absolute reject, I wouldn't touch anyone of the LGTwhatever community with a 6ft pol. But that doesn't mean it has to be your case, I do want all of you to find a good community that accepts and respect your bisexuality, however it looks, no need for justification. I haven't found that for my self and I may never will BUT there's always a change I may. I don't want any of you to feel alone, because this road is fucking lonely as hell, but I'm gonna be super corny and say you will always have me as your sister. I will always have your back and slap those nasty moid tier standards of sexuality out of your head. Gaddamn it I just want ya'll to be okay in your bisexual soul my BPD is acting up. I love you all. fuck
No. 254323
>>254320i wish that for you too
nonny thank you for the positivity
No. 254354
>where did i ever imply that?>i also didn't say lesbians are the ones doing it but someone (many someones, in fact) out there is and they are constantly talking about being gold starshow aren't you talking about lesbians but you're also talking about someone (many someones, in fact) who are constantly talking about being goldstars? give me a break
>>254298except this gen can't stop complaining about being
victims of lesbians because you had sex with men that one time and can't stop talking about it to lesbians
No. 254410
>>254401>Do bi girls have a general type? There's no "type" for bisexual women imo, our sexuality is too fluid and different for every individual person. You've probably already done this, but does she ever talk about any people, physical features or personality traits that she likes on social media? Do you know who she has dated in the past?
In general, changing yourself to fit someone else's ideal isn't a good idea or way to start off a relationship, but I hope everything goes well nonna. Good luck.
No. 254412
>>254403Lol i get what you’re saying but im not a bpd chan, I’m just rather desperate.
>>254410Yeah it’s true i can’t have a relationship based on lies. I think she might like more confident girls based on the stuff she likes, but apart from that, no clue. And I’m generally confident except for around her, then i go retard mode by accident. And she’s kind of shy so i know i have to be the strong one even if i don’t feel like it. I feel like such a stalker right now but thanks for the advice nonna, goodbi
No. 254556
>>254353>>254354boo hoo. are you one of those weirdos that go online and ask people if they're gold stars? or insist that a lesbian whose been pressured into trying it with a man once cannot possibly be homosexual. and yes, like i said repeatedly, none of those unhealthy behaviors mean you or the other weirdos that do this are lesbians. lol i think you're all more likely to be het/bihet trolls or sadistic moids.
whoever, whatever you are, you do have a
victim complex. it seems you think you are justified in harassing women, attempting to convince them that they are not homosexual when they are, and then you cry when they point out what you're doing is misogynistic and homophobic.
>an excuse to call lesbians psychos and incels who harass women like menalright. YOU just brought up men and incels, so if the shoe fits, slip it on. idc if you're a lesbian, stop harassing women like men then. stop acting psycho. problem solved. you can't hide behind that and oppression olympics to convince yourself you're punching up when you're not. i don't care if you hate bisexuals or something, not my problem. but i am sick of people like you confusing and degrading same-sex attracted women regardless of their sexuality, and sick of you spreading lies about how sexuality actually works, and sick of you acting like female socialization doesn't exist suddenly or that lesbians are somehow magically untouched by it.
this is my last reply to you. you're a homophobe, a misogynist, and shit-stirrer.
No. 255120
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>>255118Jokes on you, I have been rejected by both women and men for years.
No. 255130
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>didn't realize i'm bi until in my twenties bc i was deep in denial
>thought that i just tried to skinwalk the girls whose style i liked but no, i had a crush on them
>actually tried to skinwalk my guy crushes too
>this has been hitting me like a train
>it really doesn't matter because i'll be a forever alone autist anyway
Fuck my life.
No. 255139
>>255118Because men fucking suck. Any woman who's attracted to women and blessed with half a brain cell will pick women every time.
My assumption is that the 90% are either too lazy for gay dating, "bi" for clout, or just retards who haven't figured out that dating men is a losing game.
No. 255148
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Was told last evening by wokies friends of friends that if i was bisexual but refused to sleep with trans ppl i was transphobe because bis don't have genital preferences kek
No. 255170
>>255148LMAO. I've even been told by so-called radfems that I'm misogynistic for not being attracted to TIFs and that it obviously means I must only be attracted to hyperfeminine pornified caricatures. No, I just like women with healthy body image and natural bodies unaltered by unnecessary surgeries or injections, whether to make them look like pseudo-men or human sex dolls. Pants, skirts, short hair, long hair don't matter that much to me, really. You (not you, noni, royal you) personally may be a FTM chaser, but that doesn't mean all same-sex attracted women have to be.
That being said, I'm not at all into any trans people, not just because of their mental illnesses or bad gender politics or even their poor surgical and chemical attempts to imitate the bodies of their respective opposite sexes. Even if some trans people might consistently pass (YMMV on this one) AND not shill any kind of TRA nonsense (OK, I'm basically describing unicorns here), the idea of "chicks with dicks" or "men with pussies" in itself is just so inherently off-putting to me. I even hate fictional futa and cuntboy shit for this reason, even if the characters are "naturally like that" and technically not trans. Does that make me some sort of bigot? Maybe, but I don't care and nobody else should either.
No. 255293
>>255263True, it's actually bisexuals who can have genital
preferences depending on each individual, but for gay and straight people it's not a
preference, it's an absolute requirement.
No. 256092
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anons am i still considered bi if i am attracted to fictional men and male celebs but have zero interest in dating or having sex with a guy irl?
im interested in irl women but i don’t feel right calling myself a lesbian. idk
No. 256112
>>256092Are you attracted to the
idea of men, just not irl men physically? Do you like these men or because they are guys or because of their character? I think it's easy to have a crush on idealized versions of people but not necessarily want to be with them. I can't really answer that for you just don't put a label on yourself until whenever you find someone irl you'd want to date then you'll have your answer.
No. 256120
>>256112>Are you attracted to the idea of menyes, i'd say so, and sometimes i meet a man who i think is cute but he is literally always married or has a gf. for some reason the guys who show interest in ME are never interesting to me physically, sexually etc
>>256113it feels right to call myself bi but god damn i always question it. but anyway, thanks both of you
No. 258238
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How do you nonnies feel about "pride" or feeling "prideful" about your own bisexuality?
Personally I don't parade it around, if I'm asked I'm okay sharing it but outside of that I don't really feel nor showcase my bisexuality. But I do like the idea of having little objects for my personal enjoyment that are bisexual themed like key-chains or badges.
No. 258254
>>258238I like objects with pride flags on them too! I've been thinking about making bi themed stuff.
I don't personally feel prideful of my sexuality, but I'm not ashamed of it either. I'm just comfortable with it. It's just part of who I am and it's honestly not something I think about often. I do think it's really awesome when people are clearly proud of their sexuality but to an extent it can get a little obnoxious
and sometimes the people who are the loudest about their sexuality are overcompensating for something but hey, that's none of my business No. 258259
>>258254>I've been thinking about making bi themed stuff. omg
nonny that's so cute! If I ever make custom bi themed stuff I'll share a pic here.
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>>259731obscure but i am obsessed with anri from hello charlotte. she’s bi, she’s messy, and she‘s literally me. if i was a cringy 14 year old i would genuinely kin her.
No. 259812
>>259810no i would be more than happy. my problem is that why do i never feel that naturally to a woman i'm talking to but i do for men.
i also consume too much female focus porn i almost never watch porn with a male in it, i'm questioning wither if i only have a fetish for it. but i would totally fuck any of these women i think of them for days sometimes.
No. 259920
>>259812maybe you're watching too much female porn? now you're too focused on the porn stars than actual women.
that said, I personally have trouble finding women irl attractive sometimes because they put up the female socialization facade and I'm not into that in general. like they might look cute, but their personality is underdeveloped or inhibited so it's hard to tell if we really vibe.
No. 260654
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I finally feel like I'm in a place where I could start dating (for the first time) and I am not sure if I want to date men or women right now? How do you decide? I don't really have a preference of one sex over the other.
No. 261440
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How stupid is it to attempt to pursue a woman online? Say she doesn't have a following or anything, just a person who seems like she'd be compatible even as just a friend (which would be fine!).
Dating where I live is not ideal and finding anyone (even a man) who is cute to me and also has interests in common is rare. Not that I'm ~special~, it's just a small place.
I'll likely be earning the money in a year or so to help ship someone out to me, for reference. I know many LDRs remain unrealized because they can't meet in real life.
I specify women both because I do have a particular person in mind, and because I have no intention of pursuing men online. Seems like it would be a completely different scenario.
No. 266338
>>266326>bi>never find anyone attractiveNo offense, but that's the opposite of bisexual if you earnestly have no sexual interest in them. Unless it's weird avoidant fear that makes you run away as soon as they like you (understandable and relatable) but you still get horny for them initially?
For many reasons anons see red at the term "asexual" but it may describe your situation better than bi, at least from what you wrote.
Or are you one of those 2D-only people? Or
>>266328 kek
Either way can't relate since I'm thirsty for everyone all the time which is a nightmare since I fear intimacy and am destined to a future of solitude. No. 266376
>>266326>>266338From my understanding, a lot of women who are into men dont experience lust over their bodies but still like having sex with them. Maybe anon is the same but also with women? That might be why is so hard for some women to figure out their sexual orientation. (I also cant relate though, attracted to
everyone.)
No. 267359
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>as a bisexual woman in a liberal Western area who mostly (or even only) dates men
>I'm here to tell you fellow bisexuals that us bisexuals are not oppressed at all and we are not an authority on sexuality!!!
>my experiences are universal bisexual experiences!!
>if you claim otherwise you must be lying!!
>if you elaborate on your own experiences with homophobia you're just traumadumping and manipulative!!
>these studies that show that bisexuals experience real discrimination are obviously biased!!
>this is why nobody likes us bisexuals!!!
No. 267623
>>266326I find a lot of people
almost attractive, but life reasons made it not so.
Like seeing a pic of a guy from his youth, he was hot then but ugh now. A pretty moid with beautiful features, covered in a layer of grease and crust and horrible hygiene. A gorgeous girl who hides it all under makeup and has an annoying insecure personality.
I'm dealing with, most of the type of guys I find attractive (smedium ugly stocky manlets who are a bit goofy but intelligent) are in the protoincel pornsick demographic, which is automatically repulsive.
I like women with unique features, but it's getting harder to find someone who embraces hers. Also a lot of female socialization is annoying to deal with (the constant overguessing, doormatting)
No. 268122
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any other bi women's attraction to men purely contained to fujoism? i've always felt repulsed by hetero sex, especially when the focus is on the male (otome games and that), i feel like there is something inherently degrading about having sex with a male as a female. it seems like self-inserting with your yaoiboys and imagining threesomes is pretty common among fujos but i can't relate at all, that's disgusting. occasionally i think maybe i would fuck men if i was a man because we would be equals, even if receiving the tables could be turned any time, and it wouldn't be subversive/fetishy like femdom. but i still don't really find it an appealing idea, my fujo tendencies mostly feel like a mix of sadism and voyeurism, i really enjoy seeing men getting a taste of their own medicine so to speak. identified as a lesbian for a long time. what's wrong with me?
No. 268267
>>268122you're just a based fujo
>it seems like self-inserting with your yaoiboys and imagining threesomes is pretty common among fujosno it isn't kek those are a cringe minority of "fujo" yumejos that actual fujos also hate
No. 268298
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>>268267i thought so until i followed a ton of jp artists for this one vidya pairing i like. felt like every second artist drew the bottom as a woman (they call it "cuntboy" but it's honestly impossible to see it as anything other than simply a flat-chested woman), and one of the most popular artists even exclusively drew them straightified. the general impression i got is that most of them love one character and self-insert as the one getting dicked downed by them, really freaked me out and made me feel kinda lonely. might just be a jp thing where they're degens that are open to all kinds of shit and there's a mutual understanding that if you don't like something you just ignore it and go on your way.
No. 270671
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I feel like a tranny and it's fucking retarded. I seethe and cope (thankfully not dilate) when I see lesbian couples, I'm so fucking jealous and I don't even know why. Maybe it's just the fact that I will never have what they have, I'll never have my own uwu waifu uguu. I don't give a shit about other straight couples though. Idk what to hell do I do about this, it's absolutely braindead of me.
No. 270680
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>>270679Thanks for responding with your experience nonna. I got with him very quickly after my last relationship because I was so touch and love starved, and later realized what a fucking mistake I did. I've already accepted I can never love a man like I would a woman, and the initial sexual feelings will always disappear after a while for a man (they did not for my ex). But I have already put so much effort into this, this is my third long term relationship and he's not evil or anything so I try to just suck it up. I don't want to ruin another life because I'm indecisive, or take him away from my cats who love him. The way they missed my ex breaks my heart and I don't wanna make them go trough with it again. And it feels like an appropriate "punishment" for my actions.
No. 270850
>>270680>>270727True.
As soon as I realized I was "unfortunately" with a man and couldn't stop fantasizing about and getting off to women, I broke it off. 3 months in, not years. Especially if he's an alleged okay dude, then even he deserves someone who can actually like him and isn't sick to her stomach whenever they kiss.
In anon's case I guess it's "self-harm" of sorts for whatever crime she imagines she committed. Instead of dragging some guy into that why not just improve as a person and progress yourself? Wtf. Did you rape or murder your ex girlfriend or something? I assume not. So get some fucking confidence and be merciful with this man by cutting him off. It sucks for both of you.
No. 270873
Men are easy, abundant, and most of them are low-quality. Women, on the other hand, are much hotter and nicer on average, but are overwhelmingly straight and in the rare case that they are bi/lesbian, won't give me the time of day. I straight up do not fit in with gay women here and they seem to avoid and/or ghost me, usually over a mismatch in personality or interests, but I suspect my appearance also does it. Despite being a bishit I'm pretty casually GNC because that's what's natural and comfortable for me, which isn't really represented in the weirdass performative gay culture in my city. I feel like to be accepted as a masculine woman around here either I have to cut my hair short again and drop my actual sport for lifting to become man-lite, or go full queerio and slap a gender identity and a cringey alt aesthetic on myself. I've always found women attractive and also always been rather masc, and yet I still feel like an impostor when I'm left on the outside.
No. 270887
>>270873Nona are you me?
I've come to accept my bisexuality thanks to lolcow, and I'd really like to date a woman, but the "queer" scene in my liberal country is shit. It's fucking cruel that the only place where I've found women like me is an imageboard where you're supposed to stay anonymous. I wish I had a farmer gf.
No. 270984
>>270850Well unfortunately I am also a fucking idiot and realized it quite early, but I was too afraid to say anything. Also, sunk cost fallancy having cut ties with my ex to continue being with him (me and my ex were on a "its complicated" break while I met him, and receiving any affection at all felt so good after my sex/affection-repulsed ex, that's why I chose him instead of trying to mend things with my ex). And we HAVE discussed the issue multiple times over the years, but I have no spine and he always talks me into staying. Plus the cats would lose their fave human, I can't do it again to them like I did with my ex.
Yes yes, I'm a mentally ill hysteric bitch, who here isn't
No. 271167
>>271123What? What do you think I posted? I understand you do not like me but that does not mean I am also every other anon you dislike?
Also I was joking with the mentally ill bit, since someone called me that previously
No. 271216
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>>270984I can't fathom how you're okay chaining this clueless dude to yourself just because you've dated him a while and your cats like him. They're cats, they will recover. Stop wasting everyone's time. You're a shit person for making him a punishment for your past actions, nobody decent wants to be someone else's jailer and you claim he's a decent person. He loves you, he will love another. Stop putting people into antagonistic positions just because your self-absorbed narrative requires you to be "punished". For real you're so retarded, people aren't extras in your play where your character has to go through hardship for the arc to work out. Actual retard main character ass.
No. 271513
>>270584My guy and gal types are actually very similar to each other and I wonder if anyone else here is like this. If you'd picture masculinity and femininity as a scale, my type would be pretty much close to the middle, so more feminine men and masculine women. No troons though, I'm not into someone full on impersonating the other sex and don't want to deal with gender delusion.
I seem to get crushes on bookish, awkward and spergy types, maybe a bit sleazy or trashy looking. If she/he is passionate about something strange like taxidermy or middle age poetry, even better. Guys like that tend to be shit though, and also usually not attracted to me, since with men I tend to be quite dominating, and therefore don't fit into their incel fantasy of a perfect waifu kek. With women it's more equal, and I don't have such a drive to dominate. I know I'm into shitty men, so I guess I have no other choice than to date women only. I'm basically creep4creep, as some anon put it in another thread.
No. 271746
>>270584For women
>no fuckboy ass haircuts>funny>my height or taller>ambitious, calculating, has concrete goals she works on>is physically affectionate>likes gossiping>emotionally intelligent >not clingy, enjoys her alone time>has good friendsFor guys
>no fuckboy ass haircuts>my height or taller>ambitious, calculating, has concrete goals he works on>is physically affectionate>likes gossiping>emotionally intelligent >sensitive>vain>not clingy, enjoys his alone time>has good friendsVery similar, kek.
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>>270584I have an embarrassing thing for enbies and fakebois that might stem partly from jealousy as somebody who almost trooned. My last crush was a they/them who presented as more feminine than me but my most serious relationship was with a feminine (but not super girly) cis bi woman. I like bi moids as long as they're not pushovers or tryhard woke but more than anything I feel like at this point in my late 20s I want a partner I can be honest with whether it's about politics or just not feeling pressure to present a polished more feminine image of myself in order to appeal to them. Picrel is a look I find very cute, I'd love to be "andro4andro" with a woman one day.
No. 272928
>>272925Are you me?
I'm really inexperienced, which is why I'm also afraid that lesbians would see me as a bihet seeking for a thrill or someone to "teach" me before leaving for a man. On the other hand, saying I'm bi4bi would just reduce my minuscule dating pool (since I don't wanna date moids or gendercultists) to nothing and ensure that lesbians would just view me as a shithead or a trender.
No. 272979
>>272759I wasn't sure if the post you were replying to was bait but I agree with you. I don't think it's fair to say worrying about being left for a man is internalised biphobia when the majority of bi discussion outside of places like here and febfem circles revolves around how preferring men is very
valid and there are a million different women claiming their boyfriend or husband is their one man exception. In some places it feels like you're not even able to feel a little tired with it all because you'll be met with actual biphobia/homophobia and get called a dyke or a "pickme bisexual" by the same women. I'm not a febfem either and would definitely prefer to date another bi woman over a lesbian (my last ex was another bi woman and I feel I would have more in common with other bi women) but I don't want to be dishonest about it, we need to be kinder to ourselves.
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This will get me burned at the stake, but I'll ask anyway:
Has anyone tried non-monogamy? My desire to be with a woman again is getting really bad, and my moid suggested me dating women "on the side" (god that sounded awful lol). Not seeking for an unicorn for FFM threesome fantasies, some weird polyamory tranny polycule shit, but me seeing another bihettie woman in a relationship with a moid, without men involved. How badly would you judge someone like that on a dating app?
No. 273404
>>273401In my last relationship (with a man) I was starting to feel like I missed sex with women. It was occupying my mind all of a sudden. It had been years and years since I was last with a woman so I blamed it on that… it wasn't that. My relationship though I didn't want to admit it att.. was not fulfilling me sexually or even emotionally. In the end I didn't seek out a woman though he probably would've allowed it… but he did find a woman for himself. We ended things and I'm glad I stayed faithful rather than ending up being the one who stepped out, permission or not. I walked away with a clear conscience if nothing else.
Just my opinion, I think people who look for others and say it's because of their bisexuality are coping. Something is not fulfilling them at home. One the other side of things I've also spent time in a community before where this stuff went down alot.. a mixed 'kinky' community.. that only further cememnts my beliefs around that tbh. When I was very young I dipped my toes in being with women who were attached to men. I've never seen a healthy couple when it came to that. I would meet them for sex one time and by the next time we were due to meet they had broken up. That was the pattern I noticed and that sent me running. These relationships are already failing and no sane woman wants to step in and be the straw that broke the camels back.
No. 273407
>>273401Some people will be judgemental for sure, but who cares, they won't contact you anyway. I'm sure you'll find some interest. Still, this kind of thing will definitely end up with someone getting emotionally hurt, there are too many people involved, so question is, are you really ready for it? Even so called functioning polycules are constant management of uneven distribution of feelings, because it's impossible to have everyone feel exactly the same. It may sound tempting, and may be amazing in the frist weeks / months, but effectively, there will be pain and drama. Yes, you will have some of it even in monogamous relationships, but like this it will become amplified by how many people are involved. Just make sure you really think it through before you commit to the idea, and maybe a much better idea would be to leave your current partner to find a girlfriend.
>>273402Yeah, one anon's example is exactly how everyone is like, if you hate bi people just leave this thread.
No. 273409
>>273404Thank you for your input, I appreciate it nonna. You have a lot of great points. It's weird, in my last relationship with a woman I had no desire to have sex with men. He's just a good friend, and I don't want to lose him even though I am not happy. Having a "side girl" (ew) would just complicate shit more.
>>273407Thank you for your response too, good points as well. Yeah I don't think I'm ready for some Barcroft My Polyamorous Life shit kek.
>>273408I don't THINK he would get violent but he would definitely mope around as he is most likely using this as his "last straw".
No. 273530
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Not bi but I saw this and thought of you guys.
No. 274900
>>273401Don't someone will get emotionally hurt.
>>274828Why do you think the bi-cycle is fake? You'd think when a lot of people say they experience it then it might be a thing.
No. 275405
>>274909You're going in a similar trajectory to me even though our stories are a bit different. Turns out I'm a
lesbian but either way, find bi friends and lesbian friends. Talk to people in the community, things will make sense.
No. 275496
>>275494Fair enough, though who would report her for not wanting to date them? Prob lesbians. And I just wanted to reassure her that her choice is
valid and that lesbians would respect it. Sorry!
No. 275733
>>275721Anon I understand your worries but I think irl most wlw(hate the tiktok term but whatevs) women are bi so lesbians teaming to shame you isn't really gonna happen. Normal lesbians irl also aren't likely to hate bi women like the chronically online ones do.
Unrelated but I understand lesbians not wanting to date bi women as I also wouldn't date a lesbian simply because our issues and attractions are just not the same and it'd be an added struggle to an already complicated relationship.
No. 275832
>>275788Lmao if someone said that to me I'd laugh so hard. It's actually sad to have someone be so insecure that they think their partner wanting to fuck others is some weird gotcha, like if someone's gonna cheat or be interested in other people, it'll happen regardless of their sexuality. They could date a lesbian and still get cheated or have the lesbian fantasize about other women.
I personally don't feel comfortable with lesbian women the same way I don't feel comfortable with straight women and because most women are bi, I just don't feel the need to chat a lesbian up. We have vastly different struggles and it'd be hard for us to understand one another so although I'd befriend one, I really wouldn't want to date one.
>>275829You shouldn't read a thread if it makes you this upset. %90 bi women aren't even interested in lesbians romantically so it's not like you'd end up with one.
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>>275832>You shouldn't read a thread if it makes you this upsetKek girl she is OBSESSED with us dirty bihetties. Time and time again she specifically seeks out and bumps this thread just to infight. Or "she", idk if it just a tranny or a moid seething.
No. 276056
>>275999How do you feel during the shifts and how does it work out? I'm curious, it sounds like a hard situation. I hope it gets better for you.
In my case I get attracted to whomever, if there's a guy I like then him and if there's an open woman interested then her. I don't think I've experienced cycles and that's why I was doubtful.
No. 276890
>>276839No. I like taking an assertive role in a relationship regardless.
My ideal is to be treated a bit like a gentle ""husband"" in the traditional sense. Not strictly, but I enjoy the idea of being the provider/support and a quiet presence. Like you know the Wife Guy meme? I feel the spirit of that. A bit socially dumb and shy compared to [her] wife, but gets things done and is so clearly devoted and in love.
Due to this and other general preferences, dating men was uncomfortable when I was still attempting it. Even the way a healthy man acts in a relationship is incompatible with me.
No. 278513
>>276778My best friend and I have recently discussed something similar. We are both bisexual, yet we have that want to have a family and give birth to our own children. The more i learn about adoption and fostering, the more i want to avoid it. At one point i thought, "Hey I could be a mother, maybe with another woman too!" This was when i had a fear of becoming pregnant and once the years passed i started slowly getting over that fear. I think having that boundary of ensuring I find the right man to eventually have children with definitely helped me be even more picky with the scrotes I've come across and not waste time. But i do get you, i have sexual attractions towards women, but now it's me knowing i couldn't be long term with her because i want to have a family that includes my own biological children.
It's difficult to describe, I don't think I could find my forever being another woman and I think a huge part of that connection I need in my life comes from my desire to have biological children.
No. 281988
>>278513Obviously it's up to you and I understand the het family dynamic may be part of the appeal but couldn't you use donor sperm? Either from a bank or from one of her family members?
I'm febfem and tokophobic plus repulsed by piv, but if my partner wished to be pregnant I always figured I could ask a cousin to donate so we could have (roughly) bio kids.
Sorry if this is just a 50/50 struggle I can't get. I don't mean any ill will!
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Long retarded vent incoming (posting it here instead of the lesbian general because I don't want to bother them about moid talk, but I'll move the post if it doesn't fit here). Basically I feel like a fraud because I call myself a lesbian mostly because I have no intentions of ever getting into a relationship with a man, but I feel like an impostor since I'm not a "gold star". To make a long story short, I realized I only feel romantic attraction towards women, but I didn't mind having sex with a guy as fwb. Me and this guy used to date through high school but we stopped because I realized that I wasn't actually in love with him and it was just some mental illness induced dependency mixed with a compulsion to be what my peers wanted from me. The natural love and attraction I had always felt for women was never there for men and I hated being "the girlfriend". Having a boyfriend felt less like a life partner and more like having a human pet you can have sex with if that makes sense lol. But after we became just friends again we've still had sex a couple times because we were just horny and already knew each other well but emotionally I felt nothing. So I guess I should call myself a bisexual homoromantic then? But I seriously just feel like a big idiot.
No. 282915
>>282908You should definitely not call yourself a lesbian imo. It just reinforces the image moids have that lesbians will jump on their dick because it's sooo awesome. Being bisexual is ok. You don't have to call yourself lesbian to seem more
Valid(tm). There are many ways to be bisexual, it's not always 50/50 attraction (rarely is), but if you are attracted to both sexes, that's what you are.
No. 282920
>>282908You're bi, anon. Best to claim it since there should be no shame.
I admit my bisexuality and am disgusted by the idea of having to touch or be touched sexually by a real life man. Bi takes many forms!
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>>283633I like the double crescent symbol because it's more subtle than a plain flag and it's more niche which is a better way to signal it imo. Worst case scenario you just out yourself as a febfem and tell moids to fuck off. There's apparently a febfem flag out there but it was probably made by a rando on tumblr and nobody knows about it.
No. 283845
>>283811Depends on if you're watching it FOR the women. I used to watch more het porn growing up (I've given up don't worry), but I was focused on the woman and would self-insert into the man. At the end of the day, I wanted to fuck a woman and make her orgasm.
Be honest with yourself. If your fantasy is that and not self-inserting into a woman being pleasured no matter the circumstance, congrats.
No. 285058
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>15yo me
>keep sperging about any piece of media where a woman dresses up as a man / male character is performed by a woman
>buy a men's suit and insist wearing it to events, thinking I look cool
>mom asks me whether I might be into girls
>"ofc not mom wtf are you talking about"
>denial intensifies
Anyway sucks being a tomboyish woman who's into tomboy types when the world around me is trooning.
No. 285091
>>285058Me too nona! I wear vintage "mens" clothes every day and it's impossible to find likeminded people. Everyone seems to think I'm some troon/enby/gendershit and so I only attract those types. Also, I hope you can find the courage to explore yourself more and find comfort in your sexuality. Denial is painful.
>>285089bi moids have always struck me as either hypersexual, gay in denial, some cluster B shit or all three.
No. 285129
>>285091Yeah, I remember one time when I talked to a girl from a hobby group and found out she doesn't buy the gender bullshit either. We ranted about it a bit and afterwards she told me
>wow anon based on your appearance I thought you'd be a genderspecial too but it turns out you're a sane personAlso I searched up vidrel just to freshen some memories and now I'm amazed at my younger self for being so clueless kek. Like maybe there was a reason you were obsessed with Le nozze di Figaro and the character Cherubino specifically? No? I even discussed it with another girl I knew through a hobby and looking back I had a huge crush on her but didn't realize it at the time.
No. 286841
Any other nonnies frustrated with the online dating scene? I'm febfem and I'd to spend my life with a fellow neet gf more than anything, but I don't know where to find them!! I can't get access to HER or Tinder since I don't have a phone, and I've heard those apps don't have a good track record anyways (thanks to the troon and kweer infestation).
Does anyone have any advice on how to put yourself on the bi/lesbian dating scene without those apps?
>>270823I agree so much. I will never understand why OSA women still pursue relationships with men, particularly if they know how cruel men are to women. Regardless of your attraction to men, why would you willingly date a scrote, a member of a sex class notorious for raping and abusing women?
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>>286841Kek anon are you me? I'm having the exact same problem. I feel kinda nervous about bars because I'm not of the partying type and also very inexperienced. Also there are no lesbian bars here, only "queer" ones filled with either gay men or trannies. I know there are women like me out there who could be my type, but the problem is they're all unsocial neets (like me) and so I can never find them irl.
No. 287604
>>286926Maybe!
That's exactly my problem!! All of the gay bars are like 50-100 miles away in another state, and when I look them up, they're pretty much just for gay men. Also cute penguin pic!
>>287120Exactly why I quit dating apps! I'd rather be single for the rest of my life than date a she/they. There's something really repulsive about them irl that I can't put my finger on.
No. 288558
>>285089Bitter because we get the slutty, untrustworthy stereotype when arguably they (being men) are likelier to fit that. My lack of solidarity with them has to do with my growing misandric tendencies rather than their sexuality tbf. When female friends tell me they're bi too it's cool, but idk what to feel when male friends do.
I used to be friends with a bi guy, at the time he had a girlfriend but was secretly hanging out at gay parties hoping to suck dick. He would also thirst over male rappers in the group chat but only loves/wants to marry women. Looking back at that experience, that was pathetic of him and I'm glad no matter how much internalized homophobia I had I would never stoop that low (I doubt he's still in contact with that guy)
No. 289078
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How are fellow bi nonnies doing? I think I found a woman that is as autistic as me. Feels good man.
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>>289078Lucky you, I have no idea how I could meet other women. Some gay friends suggested we go together to a gay/lesbian club but I fear it'd be filled with troons and kweerios.
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This will make me sound like a total newbie to gay dating. In reality I'm definitely a newbie to all dating.
But how relevant is the masc/fem dichotomy? By which I mean, is it harder to date if you're somewhere in the middle? Perhaps I'm just getting specific content online for whatever reason, but it seems the butch-femme dynamic is huge with lesbians. Or butch4butch and femme4femme. Is that true for most gay and bi women?
I've stopped forcing myself to present any sort of way to appeal to men, which naturally lands me on neither side of the spectrum. I just dress like a grandmother or grandfather depending on the day and my demeanor/voice are decidedly a bit masculine, but I have recently felt some angst about that. Should I lean more into masculinity if I wish for a more dominant/traditionally masculine role in a relationship? Does this sort of thing matter less to bi women, also?
If I seem socially stunted, I'm sorry. I am. If it seems as if I'm making problems up for myself, I'm sorry. I am.
No. 289183
>>285089They tend to be TRA/MRAs at ‘best’. Very misogynistic. Maybe worse than straight men.
Like other nonas have said they are more likely to have STDs and be pornsick/into gross shit. Even more entitled to their disgusting kinks and/or multiple sex partners since they’re bi.
No. 289422
>>289213Thanks, anon. I guess you're right, I'm just afraid the way I am/what I want won't be communicated through how I look. I am reserved in regular settings, but enjoy taking the lead when I have feelings for someone. I'd just like to be seen as charming in a masculine way, and it tickles me when I can make a woman a bit flustered like that.
I also fear my sexuality is mismatched. Maybe I can't claim "stone" as a bisexual, but I have no intentions on being sexually touched either. For this reason (among others) I have and will never sleep with men.
But women are definitely less prone to associating traits with appearances than men, so I'll try to have less angst about it. Perhaps my perfect match is a masc bi pillow princess lmao.
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Bi-anons I cannot stand it anymore. I need a girlfriend. I need to eat pussy. I need to get a girlfriend and quit my job and live purely off of cuddling and sleeping in her arms and sex. This is corny as fuck and I'm joking about the quitting my job part but not the girlfriend part. Honestly typing this I feel close to fucking tears KEK I just want to meet a beautiful, funny, smart woman and fall in love and get married and adopt animals together. God I'm so fucking lonely. I keep thinking about eating pussy at work top kek. I'm so fucking awkward and weird irl and not to mention gender critical as fuck. I live in such a shitty neolib hub that it feels like any cool, weird woman is going by neopronouns and buys into the gender retardation. I'm honestly a fucking weirdo where I live for having shirt hair and STILL going by she/her. God it fucking hurts. Sorry for this long-ass rambling rant.
Anyway, I know I was just complaining about all the aidens and thembies but I'm still going to join dating apps, idc. I'm going insane. Same sex attracted nonnies who have met normal women (or hopefully their current gf…) please give me advice. What's the best dating app for finding regular same-sex attracted women? What kind of pictures should I put on my profile? I'm a turbo virgin that has never really gotten into dating apps. Fuck I want a girlfriend!!!! I'm close to trying out manifestation top fucking kek.
No. 292018
>>291346Relatable post. Constantly daydreaming about having a girlfriend and being unhinged weirdos together.
>going to dates in weird places and laughing at inside jokes only the two of us can understand>watching movies or listening to angsty metal music, resting my head on her lap and wanting to stay there forever>kissing the back of her neck, feeling her heartbeat>growing old together, having stupid couple quirksAnd the sex ofc, but I feel embarrassed dreaming about it bc I'm a mega virgin and a bit clueless about what it's actually gonna be like. Nonas I'm getting desperate enough that I'm considering going to a gay karaoke bar nearby to see if there are any actual women in there.>>291346
No. 293744
>>292117I am like this too. I am attracted to many male characters but not men irl.
When I try to entertain the idea of dating a man I just get disgusted. I especially can't stand how they smell.
No. 293813
>>293694>Late, but are you romantically attracted to real life men? Could you see yourself being in a relationship with an actual living, breathing man?Not at all, I think being in a relationship with a man is too much of a hassle (STDs and pregnancy risks, domestic violence…), and the few real men I find attractive are celebrities (so unattainable) and even then if I had the possibility of dating their normie doppelganger I don't think I would. Maybe it's my way of coping by growing invisible and not attracting guys in my late teens/early twenties.
>>293753>>293803Why not though, if you check the husbando threads there are a lot of straight women who are also disgusted by real men and prefer to focus on fictional ones. Also I'm a yumejo at heart, the guys I'm thirsting on are unambiguously male and I greatly enjoy art and fics of husbandos engaging in PiV sex with the self insert girls, which I'm pretty certain no self-respecting lesbian would ever do.
>comphetPlease, that's a meme propagated by self hating bi women.
No. 294281
>>294230Don't bother, anon. The politics around it and whether fiction = reality or not are endless, and it's easier to just be in community with other bi women who aren't as hung up on on your sexual purity but still understand attraction to other women. As
>>294239 says, lesbian communities do not want women who feel that way around, so it would just be a misery for everyone.
No. 294300
>>294299Kek wtf.
Maybe you should worry more about your safety than them calling their cats furbabies.
No. 294392
>>294378nta they dont see female homosexuality seriously at all. this blurring of the lines between lesbians & ssa leaning bi helps no one. like this retard
>>294281 exposing her inferiority complex by implying that lesbians are sexual purists bcs they don’t want women who fantasise about fucking a fictional moid in their communities. lesbianism isn’t ‘mostly attracted to females but does fantasise about sucking a fictional moids dick on the side’ bcs like u said that’s a manifestation of attraction to males. it’s exclusive attraction to females. not that hard to understand.
No. 295199
>>295076I too would like to know since I also struggle with this, even though I've had a (LDR) girlfriend before.
One thing I've noticed that does help a little is imagining romantic scenarios that are less likely to happen in public, so I'm not hung up on how others would react. With male crushes, I can easily daydream about him holding my hand at the museum or making out under the fireworks. With female crushes, the daydreams I do allow to occur are more along the lines of her sharing her earphones with me while we're listening to her favourite love songs alone at her house.
Are you the type to quickly pinpoint when you're having a crush, or do you tend to be in denial for a bit? This next tip probably works best if you're the latter. So sometimes I try to redirect my guilt on being attracted to a woman to 'denial' that I could possibly like her because of a superficial reason. (Ex. "Imagine having a crush on someone who likes BTS, that's lame") I'm aware this doesn't solve the underlying issue, but the idea is to remember that you're crushing on a person that happens to be female rather than feeling guilty because you're attracted to a woman as a woman.
No. 295223
>>295199I was really repressed for a while but my butterflies are very identifiable and the reason I finally gave up calling myself straight.
I guess one big hang-up that I have is that I was bullied for seeming(?) like a lesbian when I was a kid. I also had people speculate about and place bets on my sexuality when I was in high school. I know it sounds pathetic but I don't want to prove those people right that I was lesbian (or really, bi) all along. Idk if anyone relates but if you do please let me know, it would be helpful.
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>be hugless kissless virgin
>find out friend's friend likes the same kind of niche music as me
>immediately wonder if she's single
>realize that the chances of her liking women are minuscule
>be too much of a socially non-functional autist to even try and find out
I'm a lonely retard.
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(I asked this question on /ot/ not knowing we had a bi thread so I'm just going to ask this here)
I'm bi but I can't date a bi man. The thought of sleeping with a man who has possibly slept with other men grosses me out. Can any other bi nonnies relate? Is it 'internalized homophobia' or just a preference?
No. 299846
>>299827>internalized homophobiaIf it is only about men I wouldnt call it internalized.
Anyway I feel weird about the specific hating of bi/gay men. Straight men are just as likely to want anal sex, casual sex with multiple partners with no condoms and every sort of degenerate fetishes. Yeah, they might not find women who consent to these but they will surely watch porn and could be paying some poor prostitute to do them. And a man who doesnt have sex might be std free but his mind is infected with incelism instead.
No. 299847
>>299827Men that fuck other men are usually huge degens willing to put their cocks into anything. I’ve noticed the huge amount of misogyny in the gay male community is associated with how men would you treat you if they didn’t see you as a fuckable option.
I’m bi too and used to like the idea of dating another bi person but I’ve learned men are disgusting in general and cannot be trusted with their own sexualities.
Especially since any moid no matter how ugly can get on Grindr and match with other men in seconds. They have no standards and the most gripes I’ve heard about gay men on Grindr is that they’re racist and don’t like ftms
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>>300930I mean, I'm still not attracted to penises or male bodies and it disappears when I see the man anything less than fully clothed, but I've started to find certain men attractive before that point, like ben from jet lag (pic related)
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alright, if anyone wants to cringe go ahead
>be a tomboy because i'm a dumb kid that thinks acting like a man makes me more reliable (learned how to tie my shoes era)
>lesbian because guys look ugly and are gross
>timeskip, God decided that i should look as if a moid drew me, repulsive
>feel like a joke in masculine clothes/looks
>try to accept my body instead of crying over it
>finally get the courage to wear feminine clothes that actually make me feel safe and comfortable
>happy because i no longer look up at what moids wear or do
>my will to live decreases everytime creeps do anything, but i go on because i want to be myself
>every crush is straight or is just playing with my feelings
>feels like girls hate me and i sympathize
>start getting envious at moids that can have relationships despite being so shallow
>what does he have that i don't
>cucked.png???
>brain, how do i process this? should i be sad? should i be happy?
>bisexuality unlocked through seeing that i can't give the pleasure that guys can give, no matter how hard i could try
>feel pretty pathetic about it but at least my feelings are at peace that way
>start to actually reconsider my views on guys to understand what is their appeal
>things make sense but i'm unable to love anyone now
the only thing i'm proud of is that i never had sex, i'll be forever locked up like an iron maiden, some would call it mental illness, i call it principles
when it comes to girls i feel like my heart is locked by my fear of not being enough or that they aren't sincere with me, i don't know if i'll be able to get over it on my own but i'm not obsessed over the idea of finding a partner for now
No. 301417
Wish I could actually flirt with other women. Sometimes I notice myself catching feels for another woman I know and I feel like such a sick pervert even though I was never raised to be homophobic. I tried asking girls out in high school but that ended poorly and I got outed and bullied and the only woman who showed me interest was because her dirty scrote had a fetish she wanted to fulfill. Was a super late bloomer bi in realizing I was attracted to men just a little bit, felt kinda gross about it because of the sexual harassment I received from moids and felt like it was super weird now to be attracted to men at the tail end/after high school. Still wanna date both men and women, but I'm kinda scared of both.
Most men tend to just abandon people or turn out extremely violent or hypersexual and I've only seen one relationship with a man actually work out and be healthy and not just end in the moid leaving or becoming dangerous. Just this sort of lingering disgust I guess. And I'm kinda terrified of women because I'm scared of being outed again, of being treated like fetish material for scrotes or some deranged pervert. I don't wanna creep out the women I like or make things awkward too, of course. I'm also just scared of being used by a spicy straight woman for woke points, but I don't actually know how likely that is in college. Also a bit of a sperg and awful at talking to women. I tend to kinda spill spaghetti if I even think of approaching a woman and it's terrifying. Maybe a dating app might work better since I won't be visible to straight women. Considering going febfem, but I'm not sure. Never even flirted with a male, so I don't know the kinds of things I am missing out on, good and bad.
I also feel awkward around lesbians after having identified as one for years when I was younger and then realizing that wasn't the case later on. I wonder how many of them think I would just be a spicy straight if I said I was bi. I can't entirely blame them since I've been on the receiving end of performative bisexuality for a man's pleasure. I completely understand lesbians' distrust of some bi women, but sometimes it seems too vitriolic. I do get why they might not wanna date bi women though, I personally would prefer a bi woman just because I like people with similar life experiences I guess.
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sage for sperg
Any degenerate/autistic fucks who are struggling with the “bicycle”/internalized biphobia right now?
despite being like 95% more attracted to women, I somehow landed a really kind normie bf that ive been friends with for years. He is the love of my life, he satisfies me in every way and I am so lucky/grateful to have such a kind, patient, loving bf. My bf and sister say Im “coomer brained” but thats just because i grew up chronically online and around pornsick moids and old habits die hard or whatever. I dont really have any (consenting) experience with either sex so I’m just a pathetic moid brained virgin.
Maybe its just the years of isolation, or maybe I am just genuinely retarded but i even struggle to be friends with women specifically. I guess i just dont care what moids think of me or maybe its the intense mommy issues but I am so fucking awkward with women and it makes me want to fucking cry.
He encourages me to make friends and go out more and Im trying to make more girl friends but i feel so insecure and im afraid of coming off weird/creepy around straight women and i dont know how to engage with other lesbian/bi women outside of the internet
I love my boyfriend, our relationship is fresh and I can genuinely see myself being with him for a long time but… I never envisioned my future with a man and Im like in a weird mourning stage of knowing i might never be with a woman sexually. Ive had one romantic relationship with a woman but it felt so one sided since i put in all the effort but i dont know…
I don’t know why this is affecting my self esteem. I know i’m a mentally ill degenerate but I am in such a great relationship that I’m so happy for and I dont want to self sabotage. When we first started dating I wanted to set boundaries and define our relationship. I asked him about a ffm threesome and he shut that down. I asked how he felt about men who let their girlfriends play around with other girls and he said he would be hurt by the thought of me being with someone not him. And all of these are things I love about him but ffuuuickksbdka
I wish i was straight i wish i wasnt socially awkward i wish i didnt fucking crave female attention so bad i wish i wasnt so obviously gay and nervous around women. I hate this Why cant I just be fucking normal at the very least. I wish women liked me back romantically or loved me properly maybe then i wouldnt be so sad about this.
I WISH I WASNT LIKE THIS
No. 304793
>>303298It's clear you just see women as something to experience rather than who you actually want to be in a relationship with, or else you wouldn't be with a moid.
>I asked him about a ffm threesomeYeah, you are a coomer. Leave women alone.
No. 304830
>>304664I'm in the same situation and also Eastern European, I hate it here. Sometimes I wish I had siblings to fulfill the settling thing and I would just be the gay relative, oh well…
Not to mention that this year I met only a handful of guys I can count on one hand that didn't give me the ick or find repulsive in a way
No. 304879
>>304860Kek I used to feel bad about being "NLOB" (not like the other cool sexy bi women in pop culture, media etc), I have BPD
and autism but I never partied and didn't even lose my virginity until I was 21 and it was to another woman. I've just come to accept and embrace that so many different kinds of people can be bi, all it really means is liking both sexes, and we can't blame ourselves for the way moids hypersexualise any kind of female SSA.
No. 305846
>>304860Can relate t. also a virgin party pooper
>What are good things about being bisexual, in your opinion?The only one I can think of is that at least in theory I have more options dating-wise than non-bisexual people. If I want an easy life without being discriminated against, I can just be with a moid, but on the other hand moids are shite, so I feel like I'm lucky for being able to fall in love with another women, because I'd rather live with a woman. In reality, though, my social skills are close to zero and I'm a lonely femcel kek
No. 306233
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>>304860We literally get to choose if we want to date men, women or both at different points. Or same if you are a polyfag I guess. Doesnt help much if both reject you though. I used to have drunk hookups with awful moids, then I stopped it and was sexless for years. Now I finally got a gf but she ghosts me for days, pretty sure it is not working out. Im the kind of bi that has been every flavour of pathetic.
No. 306374
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what do you think of this sort of bi merch, anons? is it based, cringe or somewhere in-between?
No. 306379
>>304860Same i’m the complete opposite of the bisexual stereotype. Im not sexual at all which is a huge reason why I don’t like telling people im bi, i watched them make assumptions about other bi people and sexualize the hell out of them. I used to think I was ace for a bit.
I also noticed that i’m just not very interested in relationships in general
No. 306409
>>306374I'm with this anon
>>306388 Any sort of merch advertising your sexuality is always cringe.
>>306393Why not just hit on them first then open the door and ask something along the lines of what they're into, if they're into xyz etc.
No. 306874
>>306766I agree. I think if they're good quality, pride pins/merch can be a useful way to signal to people irl that you're SSA. I wish there were more specifically bi pins that aren't cringe though. I don't mind some of the ones posted here,
>>306374 the annoying ones are the "many gendered love" and the tumblr one that's offended about being presumed to be straight
No. 308114
>>307859Yeah, but it depends on what the gap is and which phase of adulthood. 2-4 years can be
problematic if you're a teenager, but in your 20s/30s it's not a big deal. 6+ years can even be a gray area or non issue if it's something like a 28-year-old and a 34-year-old. There's also a big difference between organically meeting someone in-person who just happens to be slightly older/younger but you are still on a equal level (friends, coworkers, classmates) and purposely seeking out younger people on apps.
However, I've known one too many "late bloomers" in their late 30s-40s who resort to dating early 20s women, and while they're still adults it kind of makes me judge the older woman. I've had over 3 friends who near-exclusively had same-sex relationships with younger adults (the biggest gap was a mid-30s friend who I cut off who is dating someone 11 years younger, and another former friend dated a 19-year-old in her early-mid 20s) and they were extremely immature and scared off people their age, even platonically.
No. 309844
Would you ever date an enbie or some flavour of that?
>>307859If you’re older than 18 i think it depends more on your life stage even with men.
No. 315023
>>306374clearly this is an unpopular opinion but i quite like these. not sure i would get them for myself, but it's not inherently cringy, and it can be a good way to let people know you're bi without having to bring it up. they're definitely nicer than the pins from spencers kek. i like the "love is a many gendered thing" and the "100% bi" ones especially.
>>309844tbh i would date a religious person and i'm an atheist so i think disagreeing about gender isn't that big of a deal. a lot of enbies agree with radfem beliefs once you start talking with them and just find it's easier to "opt out" than to try and end gender altogether, which i dont agree with but don't think it makes us inherently incompatible.
No. 315031
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>>315023>not american>google "spencers pride pin" out of curiosityholy kek those bottom two are tacky and ugly as fuck
No. 315085
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I don't care that much about men. I find most of them repulsive. But men with pretty thighs are my thing. Straight women love thighs too but somehow if I do, I'm secretly a lesbian. Why are people so weird with bisexuality? Let me enjoy thighs in peace.
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>>315088>>315099What would make a flag patch or pin cringy? I honestly think our flag is one of the cuter looking ones and the colours are nice, especially when compared to some of the newer bs MOGAI flags or the complete eyesore picrel. I've had a small bi pin on my bag for nearly a year now and always wish I could connect with other women over it.
No. 315218
>>315166Yeah, exactly like
>>315213 said lmao. If someone has pride flags and pronoun pins on their backpacks I want to stay away from them. Though I also have a bi & rainbow flag stuff on some stuff I own so make it make sense lol.
I think I'm going to craft a little bi heart pin myself!
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>>315099Double crescents is very lowkey, Im not sure I’ve ever seen it on tiktok for example. There’s also another version with a full moon in the middle
No. 315482
>>315218I'd probably react differently if it was a regular gay/lesbian/bi flag and not a troon/pansexual/demipolywhatever one. Maybe it's because I'm kinda lonely irl kek but if I saw someone with one of the first three I'd want to talk to them and maybe be friends. I agree with
>>315321>>315225This one is so cute
No. 318498
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I don't want to infight so I decided to post here instead. I'm so fucking sick of feeling like as a bi woman you just can't win. If you say you only wanna date women, you're a cocksucking whore who's trying to invade lesbian spaces and should just stick to dating men, and if you do date men you're a bihettie spicy straight trying to make herself look special.
>inb4 quit playing victim anon
then fuck off from this thread I'm just venting
No. 318506
>>318498But also if you date both you're still a whore. I've literally seen anons on here say that if you're publicly bisexual while in a relationship then you're just saying that you want to cheat or fuck other people. They want us to pick a side but also don't because if we do we're being deceptive.
And honestly, semi-related but I would never be with someone if they expected me to "choose". If you wanted either or you could've literally just found someone like that.
No. 318549
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>>318498Yeah that sucks. I also feel as a masculine looking woman I need be extra clear that Im bi so it wont seem like I am sneakily pretending to be a butch lesbian.
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>how you discovered you were bi
Jennifer Tilly.
No. 319223
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How hard is it to find a woman on a dating app so I can try eating pussy and having sex with a true and honest woman? Im a good looking girl but not obviously into women. Last time I tried to do a dating app, women would hardly respond to my messages. I figured that the majority of hot straight looking women are probably on the straight version of bumble/tinder/hinge hence why it’s so hard to get a match. Cope, ik. I just wanna eat pussy.
No. 319768
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I saw this in the library last week and had a skim through it, it's unfortunately but unsurprisingly very tumblrlike (it has a section called "compulsory monogamy") but tbh I love the idea of bi people or rather bi women having more of a community the way lesbians and gay men often seem to. I wonder if there's much hope for that?
No. 319790
>>319251Kek I had a journal where I drew all of the sailor scouts naked (just standing around). My brother found it and I got so embarrassed I threw it away and never drew pics like that again. I also was one of those kids who routinely made their Barbies scissor.
I didn’t acknowledge that I was bi (despite having made out with multiple girls by then) until I was like 21 possibly because my autism makes me take forever to realize things kek
>>319223I feel this so much. I gave up because I don’t want women to feel like I’m objectifying them or being a creep… it’s so hard because I know we are capable of being horny and having casual hook ups but the embarrassment of potentially coming off like a desperate moid is too much for me.
No. 319848
>>318498>If you say you only wanna date women, you're a cocksucking whore who's trying to invade lesbian spacesLiterally who says that? If something most agree you should be dating women, it’s just that y’all somehow always find another “nigel”.
t. bisexual woman
No. 319855
>>319848>Literally who says that?>y’all somehow always find another “nigel”OP was most likely hyperbolic but kek you yourself personify the attitude of "oh you'll fuck men anyway so gtfo"
>>319768I wish there was a community. At least where I live it's all about pan and "queer" now and I don't really feel like I belong in there. Hell, I couldn't even discuss my actual sexuality without being labeled transphobic because it makes no sense to talk about it without acknowledging that there are two sexes.
No. 319976
>>319583ayrt it depends a lot on the app and the people but i usually put a couple of flirty bits in whatever bio i have that could be taken as innuendo, nothing too strong but if it gets to exchanging messages i don't see any point in not being upfront and saying you want sex. maybe a lot of women are used to men taking initiative in that conversation. i look like a total incel irl (think big glasses, bad posture, comfort hoodies kek) but when i've asked some of the women i talked to it turned out i've slept with more women than them, so i dunno… maybe some of them aren't so confident in leading the flirting and want some guidance. it's hard to navigate especially if you're not that confident but don't give up
>>319855i hate the definition of bi that keeps being pushed by tras, "attracted to same and different genders" or "more than one gender" or some shit. if you like pussy and dick you're bi, whether or not someone wants to date mtfs or ftms shouldn't even come into it but i guess that's narcissists for you
No. 320012
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I was listening to a podcast and there was this girl who was the typical "i luuuv women they are so soft and i fantasize about them all of the time but i couldnt date one" and then proceeded to explain how most women that she ended up dating ended up being "too possessive" and couldn't see herself in that relationship.
Honestly nonnas that "possessive" part was the final ick for me, it felt like she'd love it if a man did it and was only disgusted because a woman would want to be monogamous with her. I just hate that representation, when I've met wonderful bi women out there who actually see other women as human beings.
Of course I empathized when she admitted to being fetishized by past boyfriends and even experienced going out with her bf+ best friend and her moid said he expected a threesome building up just because they had fun and hung out, I wasn't trying to be a 100% hater from the start because I hate this to be a competition, but I just wonder to what degree have men infiltrated our relationships and self-view where we can't even be honest with ourselves and explore our sexualities without the male gaze being always a part of it and always trying to pander to it, even subsconciously.
I wouldn't want to get too dark regarding this and go full despair mode but it's a terribly common case where these "bi" (?) women just want to do porn tier things to get off and then yeet.
I understand though, that this is what moids want, for us to think our sexuality is about them and it's not real and they can control it.
I also understand why moids are incredibly easy and comphet is a thing also which is why im not overly critical of women who have not had experiences with other women, it's just that when I hear "they're hot but i couldnt date one" I get the biggest ick in existence.
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I am tired of my sexuality being hated on constantly. Picrel. I will never come out irl ever. And I'll probably never date either. People are so viscous to bisexuals. To be totally honest it makes me suicidal.
No. 320168
>>320147The idiotic thing was it was the questioning sexuality thread
>>>/g/153246 . IDK why they felt the need to even go in there and say that shit since clearly they've never questioned their sexuality and don't understand the experience.
No. 320356
>>320197Yeah, febfem is supposed to be a
terf dogwhistle because it excludes men/dick. I'm not febfem myself but I don't tend to seek out men for anything more than casual. If TRAs can have "t4t" then I wish we could have bi4bi women rather than always expect lesbians to date us when we surely have more in common with each other. It feels like bi women pairing up with other bi women or even bi men happens a lot less often than pairing up with straight men
No. 320357
>>320356TBH i think we need to just bite the bullet and keep using the term febfem, it's clear and succinct. Personally I'd only ever want to date another febfem (or lesbian), it's an important way to signal priorities and I'd like to have it in common with partner. If I ever reach a point where I try dating apps, I'm probably going to include it in my profile and if anyone wants to give me shit about it I don't care, it's not like they can prove I'm a
terf from the term alone. I'd just say I'm "reclaiming" it kek. I really think "femfem" needs to become a more well-known thing.
No. 320433
>>320357I guess you could always just claim "omg all I said it's that I only date women, why are you presuming that doesn't include totally
valid transwomen? Are you a bigot? Why are you letting TERFs decide how you speak?????", then you proceed to only date women.
No. 320622
>>320612I do, but for a different reason. My preferences for either sex swing very hard from one extreme to the other with rarely much overlap so whenever I'm in any one stage it feels "wrong" to say I'm bisexual, even though clearly that's the only thing I could be. Like, "how can I be bi when I feel 100% gay right now?" Then later, "how can I be bi when I feel 100% straight right now?" The way I conceptualize myself in my head is fucked up, it feels like I have a lesbian persona and a straight persona that are both me.
>I don't feel legitimate because I don't date at allYeah, I get that (i'm also mentally ill + the other issue), it almost makes me feel like "why the fuck am I mentally killing myself over labels when it will never have concrete relevance in my irl life?"
No. 320641
>>320622>My preferences for either sex swing very hard from one extreme to the other with rarely much overlap so whenever I'm in any one stage it feels "wrong" to say I'm bisexual, even though clearly that's the only thing I could be. Like, "how can I be bi when I feel 100% gay right now?" Then later, "how can I be bi when I feel 100% straight right now?" The way I conceptualize myself in my head is fucked up, it feels like I have a lesbian persona and a straight persona that are both me.do you think this with things food or media tastes? because it's normal to be like this. i hope you accept yourself as bi soon,
nonnie, that is fucked up and sad
No. 320696
>>320433>I guess you could always just claim "omg all I said it's that I only date women, why are you presuming that doesn't include totally valid transwomen?I actually saw a febfem on Tinder
she wasn't my type, so I didn't swipe, and her save was that she didn't want "pre-op transwomen"; basically all TIMs on apps keep their dicks anyway, so it was a clever save imo.
No. 320709
>>320612Yeah and I suspect it's mostly autismo, i.e. having a hard time to differentiate sexual attraction from other emotions and not being able to relate to what most people consider to be attractive in men and women. I still don't publicly call myself bi ever because it's the current go-to label (though pan even moreso) of cringy tenderqueer people I don't want to be associated with.
I was in denial for a long time and managed to convince myself that all my female attractions and crushes were just platonic admiration or pornsickness (I was exposed to porn early, unfortunately).
No. 321514
im the anon from upthread
>>320622 with the issue of sexuality swings from one extreme to the other and I am at my limit. I really can't do this anymore. It's too unsettling. I just left another phase and i'm already incapable of imagining how i could have been attracted to that sex even though I know I was, and at that time I felt the same way about the opposite stage before that. but it feels so impossible that I think i must be an idiot misremembering or making it up or something. I know this isn't normal even for bisexuals. I don't want to live like this anymore and if I can't fix it then I don't want to live. I want to get prescribed some sort of libido killing/"chemical castration" medication but I don't know if those exist for women? And I don't know that i'd be able to get anyone to prescribe it to me, unless i lied about being some sort of dangerous sex pest or something but I don't want to do that. I wish I was born normal but I wasn't and i just want this all to stop because I can't take being mindfucked anymore
No. 321515
>>321514Relax, it's just sex, it's supposed to be fun.
I really don't see a problem tbh. So you can't call yourself thissexual or thatsexual, so what, just call yourself "sexual". That's what you are, and what most of us are. No need for any prefixes, really.
No. 321546
>>321521I've heard some bisexuals feel similar to you before, though I personally can't relate. It was quite recently that I heard about people feeling this way actually, it was in the comments section of this video but content warning for ugly troon in the video itself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmQGDoWn52k. I came across it while looking into the so called "bi-cycle", wherein bisexuals preference between men and women wax and wane between the two over time, an experience I've had.
I do think your problem is not an issue of sexuality but an issue with the stability of your sense of self and identity. Though sexuality is not in the inherent problem, if you want to try to reduce your libido to help in the interim while you can't afford the therapy to get through this properly, I have experience completely losing my libido on Celexa (generic name is Citalopram, it's an SSRI antidepressant that's quite easy to get an rx for). Perhaps you could try something like that, though I really do think therapy is the way to go. There are therapy workbooks you can get on Amazon or any bookstore that might help for now too.
(learn2embed) No. 321563
>>321546Why are you recommending libido-killing drugs to an obviously mentally tortured person like some tranny doctor
>>321521Dude, you don't have a real problem. What you wrote is not a problem at all. I can see you're going nuts, but there is no real reason for it, and you really oughta find a free therapist because you're going coo coo over literally nothing
No. 322654
>>322646>bisexual identifying women>identifying Well there's your mistake.
Try finding someone who doesn't "identify", who just shuts up and fucks
No. 322697
>>322661Nta but wanting to find women who will only "shut up and fuck" isn't something we all desire and sounds a bit misogynistic. Perhaps you didn't mean it literally?
Fucking is important but a life partner to share interests and thoughts with would be nice, too.
No. 322698
>>322646There are definitely normie bi women around on dating apps etc who while not terven don't really bring up gender stuff or troon discourse. I think someone having she/her in her bio isn't necessarily a red flag, a lot of the time these women seem genuinely well meaning and aren't aware of the craziest TRA bullshit. But if you look for specifically LGBT groups to meet people or apps that label themselves as kweer like Feeld or Lex they seem overrun with gendieshit sadly. I haven't tried revealing my true
terf power level to a date yet kek
No. 322709
>>322697Of course I didn't mean it literally, why is everyone on this website an autist
>shared interests She's specifically looking for someone who doesn't have an interest in gender politics, she won't find them among those who love talking to everyone how bi they are.
No. 322784
>>322778what are you on about, genderists will fill their online bios with ALL THE LABELS kek
And writing two sentences about something isn't sperging, next time just say "no u"
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I usually have all threads that talk about sexuality hidden because the sheer amount of disdain thrown towards bisexual women is insane. So I just came by to give a tiny dose of niceness and tell all my fellow bi nonnies to not let the retards grind you down. Let them choke on their rotbrained catch 22 schizo a-logging sperging. And you? just keep being cute and get a latte, idk whateves u want, live ur life ffs. love u all ♥
No. 324053
>>323980God, yes! I was thinking about this around a week ago. I lean soft-masc in presentation and personality but spent the past several years dressing like the cutesy sorts of women I find so charming. Women who wear cute soft sweaters, frilly floral dresses, etc. are one of my main types. I also like grungy sort of masc women though, and also went through a phase of dressing like that in my late teens. It has not helped that I find women with similar features to my own (give or take some softness) the most attractive.
Luckily I have soul searched and just dress in a way that suits me and my personality best now. Girly me was uncanny because of how I sound and act but edgy me was weird because I'm a stuffy nerd. It was like LARP.
No. 325410
>>325302>MMFprobably yes
>FFFhell yes
>MFFhell no
No. 325484
>>325302Domming a moid with another woman would be the ultimate fantasy for me, ideally we would also deny him the satisfaction of getting to fulfill his scrote threesome fantasies. Sadly I think this won't be possible irl. MMF is somewhat interesting
being a former fujo kek but idk if I'd actually be down to it. Too much scrote. FFF would be okay, except for the cringe inherent to poly stuff.
No. 325504
>>325302I had a sort of a threesome once.
I was fooling around with two people at the time, a guy and a girl, they knew about each other, but this outing was the first time they met. Each wanted to be the one I take home after and neither would back down, so I took them both. They spent the entire night pleasuring me and shooting mad glances at each other. The morning came and the action stopped, sunshine lighting my stark naked body sat between the two of them completely clothed. It was then I realised how bizarre all of this was. I'm glad for the experience but I will not be repeating it, the competitiveness was uh, interesting, but ultimately negative, and I do want sex to be 100% positive for all.
No. 326423
>>326422i'm jealous
nonnie, how did you find the men? and were they bi as well or straight?
No. 326754
>>322646I feel the same way, I had my peak trans recently and I have never felt so isolated. I have lost several friends and only interact with few straight normies nowadays. Almost every L/G/B in my country is either a queer or are of the "bring back the GLS" kind (including some self-hating bis, aka polilez). In other words, some think I am a
TERF who deserves to be raped, others think I am an cockbreathed STI vector.
No. 326794
>>326754If it's okay to ask what peaked you and did you tell the friends you lost about it? I usually stay silent because I'm already isolated irl but it gets so tiring. In my dream world there'd be some kind of organised and coherent community of
terf bi women the way there seems to be with lesbians. There are probably (hopefully) more of us out there than it seems
No. 326809
>>326453Weird way to
victim blame someone
No. 326964
>>326794It's been a long way. I never actually believed that "trans women are women and trans men are men", I just had empathy for believing that they all suffered from dysphoria, and they actually suffer a lot of prejudice in my country (I'm Brazilian, the murder statistics are inflated, but it's really a very conservative country).
The starting point that made me question this was reading an magazine article painting as a poor
victim a HSTS troon who hid being trans when having sex with other men (“boo hoo we’re so lonely”), I thought it was fucked up and now I know the concept of rape by deception. Then I heard about the "cotton ceiling" speech but it was still very unpopular at the time. Then I heard about Jonathan Yaniv and Eli Erlick. Then self-identification became the norm and any kind of "exclusionism" makes you a fascist
terf, even of moids who admits having a sissy fetish (think of reddit troons). Then I decided to study more and found out about botched surgeries, about the effects of Lupron and cross-hormones therapy, etc…
I didn't open up to those I considered "too drowned in gender kool-aid" and I just slowly moved away of them. I talked to some who seemed more normies and/or sensible but I still got into some conflicts, including a moid (now ex-)friend who decided to trooning out some months ago.
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Nonas, how do you deal with complexes related to this sexuality, specifically on the “feeling like a poser” aspect?
For context
>realized bisexuality at 14
>was obvious to both parents I was ssa upon telling them, one even said “I saw it coming”
>several crushes on women, tried to find girlfriend, decided to only pursue interest in women for entire teenagehood, propositioned sexually to one of the crushes, briefly e-dated another girl
>too autistic and mentally ill to actually score any irl relationship, casual or otherwise, crushes weren’t corresponded, and so on
>eventually end met a moid who vastly improved life, have several shared interests and goals
My relationship with him is happy, he’s bisexual also, and I’m in love with him, but it feels like I’m a clown and no one would ever take my attraction to women seriously because of this relationship. Making fun of this isn’t taken seriously, not on lolcow, not on any social media, not even IRL. I feel paranoid opening up. There’s an underlying anxiety about it every time I see something (art, pictures, political posts) that bring to mind the fact I like women (like a picture of a butch I feel attracted to). I wish I was straight or a lesbian instead of this nebulous unclear thing. How do you cope with this? Social contexts don’t help because they just make it worse
No. 330059
>>330055I don’t understand the problem. You’re happily with your bf so you’re functionally straight to the world.
>no one would ever take my attraction to women seriouslyWhy do people need to “take seriously” your attraction to women when you’re already in a relationship with a man and not looking to get with other women? The fact of the matter is your attraction to women is not relevant in your current life.
No. 330061
>>330059I know that I am functionally straight to the world and it affords me a bunch of advantages, I guess it’s being a butt of the joke or fearing were the circumstances to change, I would be seen as predatory? I wonder if it’s a deeper self esteem issue that ends up masked under sexuality. It feels like “denying” something that is important to oneself because it means being subjected to mockery, despite relating to experiences of same sex attraction.
Like when straight women talk about their relationships with their males and there’s a sense of relatability there. I don’t know if I am making sense. I know it’s a strange insecurity to have but it nags at me, how do I stop giving a fuck about being a “real” bi is the question
No. 330072
>>330063NTA and no offense, but all you can really do is get over yourself. You're functionally straight like the other anon said, and it isn't like you're in the market for a relationship so who cares what you identify or call yourself as? It sounds like you're just insecure other people don't care as much about your sexuality when it ultimately means nothing to anyone but the person you're dating. A bihet with a boyfriend is a dime a dozen, and no one is really itching to make jokes about bi women except some random internet users.
>affirmations or some shit so I stop feeling this, specifically being ashamed of sexuality and how it may be perceivedSurround yourself with other bi people and stop depending on external validation for your sexuality. If you can only truly feel like something about you is real if other people are assuring you it is, then it's time to do some self reflection. If you really are attracted to women, it shouldn't matter whether or not other people think you're really gay or not.
No. 330087
>>330079and more so for Black GNC women with a more hip hop/hood style, not all Black GNC lesbians are studs
>>330080This barely has anything to do with the topic of
bisexuality No. 330097
>>330095To be fair I have heard of bi studs, I'd even say it seems to be generally considered more acceptable to call yourself a stud as a Black bi woman than as a non-Black lesbian, but yeah it is
mostly associated with lesbians.
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>>330720ayrt, kek mine was a woman who looked great in a suit too. I was like, hang on. Why is she sexier than any suit-wearing man I've ever seen? Then it felt like everything fell backwards from there and the universe (of sexy androgynous women) unfolded before my eyes. I literally called out of work the next day to process my sexual awakening kek
No. 330978
>>330965The person started talking about pizza and pasta to me back and I just wanted to die. According to my friends it was a great opener because "lulz random" but I'm kind of internally hoping someone actually understood what it meant so… That's probably why I asked that.
> I have yet to figure out if people with extremely normy/generic profiles are just trying to not scare people off , or if most people are just that normyI'm extremely tempted to uninstall again because the latter is most likely the case. Either that or they're buck wild. A girl with a somewhat normal profile just told me she just came out of juvenile prison and is under house arrest what the fuck
> if we immediately can start joking or talking about niche stuff and get past small talkThat's what I'm hoping for too nonna, but I think even the slightly 'weird' people on there I have trouble getting along with because finding the niche topic that works is a skill on its own that I don't have (I don't do husbandos so I don't bring it up lol)
On my profile I put phrases only the terminally online would understand like 'being autismo' and 'weeb'. Considered putting 'basement dweller' too but decided against it. Not a good look even to potential nonnas hiding in the wild out there kek
No. 331078
any other nonnas who have a 'the one who got away' story?
for me:
> exist online on twitter> someone messages me asking for recommendations for fictional lesbians> I give them recommendations> turns out we're both autists about /u/> in fact the girl was a (loved) namefag in a thread that was ongoing for years about one series on 4chan that I DID know about before directly speaking to her> she was just pretending to be stupid and asking for recs to slide into my DMs> we pull that spiderman meme on each other when we discover how we're both the same stupid autists> she was TERFY and also super caring and would write an essay in response to anything I sent to her, be it music or my problems or interests> we have almost the same preferences like being a touhou doujin music fag outside of the obsession with anime lesbians> it felt like someone who GOT IT for the first time, like everything in the universe clicked> be a useless and stupid dumbass and she gets together with my discord server moderator instead> accept fate that she was happy with someone else now> turns out she and that same mod had a crush on me this entire time> two women were crushing on me but my stupid ass fucked everything up and they just gave up and got together> try not to hurt and am ultimately okay with this situation because I tell myself that her gf treats her better than I could have> realize that right now that I am not okay with it and am hurting even though it's been half a decadeI'm
>>330978 >>330706 and have tried to be so optimistic about everything. Like dude after a fuck up that bad, there's nothing but up right?
But nothing ever came close to her. I talk to her sparsely like 3 times a year and even though we speak rarely, it feels like fireworks and CONNECTION happens when we do. There's no fear of interacting with a creep or someone insane that you get when you specifically meet someone from an anonymous board because we met out of it. I accepted she was someone else's and happy years ago but the more I think about this now the more I fucking kick myself because nobody has ever come this close to matching my dumbassery.
yuufag from /u/ I fucking wish you were mine
sorry nonnas I'm just feeling fucking drunk and lonely. After her, there's no girl, no moid that can even capture the fucking spark in conversations that we used to have. Even right now when we catch up it's as if there wasn't even a 4-6 months break and we go back to being autists about anime lesbians or genuinely caring about each other's lives. fuck
I just want to have someone like her. No moid have even come close. Funny because autistic moids populate the internet kek
/rant
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I confuse myself so much because my celebrity crushes are all men and I’m occasionally attracted to my Nigel just depending on the day… I often daydream about men but even when it gets sexual I don’t get horny. It’s just fun imagination stuff. When I’m actually horny I think about women but I also feel so guilty and creepy for sexualizing real women afterwards. I wonder if any women have ever masturbated to the idea of me kek. Just a pointless stream of consciousness but wondering if anyone relates