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first thread is finally due to be locked, so here's the new one to discuss bisexuality. first thread >>56468
if you're still extremely unsure if you're bisexual, the questioning thread is likely a better fit. talk about your gender preferences, how you discovered you were bi, what's your type in men and women, how you feel in the community, any struggles you've had with bisexuality, etc.
I used to, but I coped by just denying it so now I'm well into my adulthood with 0 experience with anyone due to my inability to stomach romance with a man in reality.
If you’re happy with women why does it matter? The only trouble I see is people assuming bisexuals all prefer men or are 50/50. But as long as your partners don't believe you'll leave them for dudes then it has no real impact on your life.
Is your family religious or something?
I wouldn't call myself a febfem because I do interact with men sexually (it's so much easier to find men for casual stuff than women), but the thought of dating one is uncomfortable. I think it can be hard to find other bi women with a strong same sex preference both irl and online, the common experience seems to be dating a man and then coming out or experimenting and it makes me feel disconnected from my identity. I'm the same as you second anon, it's the romance aspect of interacting with men that feels off to me.
No, my family isn't religious.
Happens a lot I'm afraid but If a febfem ever calls herself a lesbian I'm like " Yeah you're bi but I don't blame ya"
I want to date a woman and I usually think I'm going to end up with a woman even if I want to experience what a relantioship or a fling with a man would be like
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I wish I hadn't had a bad experience with my first love. Made me too cautious of other women. I just have to get over it and stop feeling like a victim like an incel. Self pity isn't as fun as having a gf would be
I was talking about drawn depictions winch in each case they are usually drawn to look like flat chested chicks with dicks ( curves and all that)
I'm ashamed to say I'm still fond of it even if i know naturally no dude looks like This! It just my bisexual brain acting up
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There is a woman in my dm's hitting on me hard and my retarded ass has no idea how to really respond or what to do.
Going to see how close near me she lives and might ask her out so wish me luck anons
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Would you like there to be a bi emoji, like the gay pride flag emoji? I think it could be useful as well as a lesbian emoji and tbf there’s already a fucking mpreg one, but I don’t think I’d want to see emojis for the billion different made up sexualities and genders.
she's probably just found that she's experienced the same feeling of finding a woman attractive or being attracted to someone in passing as she might otherwise had with a guy. it might even have always been that way for her but she's just never decided to confide in you before now.
honestly it's super common for women to be in established relationships whilst realising their bisexuality. i don't really think it means anything or threatens the stability of the relationship, it's just that its pretty easy to get into a het relationship in our society (especially when you're younger) and many of us don't even question that there's other options until later on
>>201425>Is it enough to just think "woman sexy" and oh snap, you're bi?
If you fantasize about fucking women, yeah. Same as hetero crushes on dudes.
Unless you think every virgin is asexual.
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>>202314>tfw my husbandos will never give me tender loving sex because they aren't real and no moid is attractive enough to justify trying to have terrible intercourse with
i can honestly say i'm at happy with my decision to be celibate until i can find a gf
Pick one>Husbandos you actually like and find attractive, using your own terms and tools to give yourself the pleasure you really want and continue to edge for hours if you want to until a satisfying climax
Or>Fucking some greasy moid who rams it in while you're still half dry, get a minute of sad jackhammering without reaching an orgasm and afterwards he wants to try anal or choking because porn actresses like it
Honestly I'd keep on calling myself a febfem, afaik there's no other word and you shouldn't let idiots create definitions. By claiming to be a febfem you can immediately detect the handmaiden and thus avoid dating them. Also>transmen
If only evil terfs use this term why would they date TiFs? Fucking retards.
Right? Im starting to get frustrated how penis centric they made bisexuals to be regardless of their gender as if neither could just like women better when given the option.
||me not waking up having had a wet dream with a woman today lol||
Yea, I think I'll throw in the "excuse" of trying to "reclaim" the word if anyone asks
>If only evil terfs use this term why would they date TiFs?
Because it means that you see them as cis women, not "trans men"
With threesomes.. lots of women who find themselves attracted to two people would still only want to fuck them one at a time. Group sex is just a whole separate kink in itself.
And I'm saying that as a bisexual woman who had threesomes when I was younger. It was okay but the novelty wore off after say session 2. It was never 'twice the fun', if anything if was half the fun of just concentrating on one person.
Obligatory "stop watching porn"
But seriously, that means nothing
Wtf is this nonsense.
Are straight women and lesbians "bad" unless they sleep with two men or women at the same time?
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>mfw you google 'bi women' and these are the first results
I wonder if the 11 signs you're Bi article is any good.
Also am I the only one that lurks the lesbian thread to get away from dick.
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I had a date with a GORGEOUS woman and I felt that we had chemistry. We are interested in same things but there’s a one issue: she has never been with another woman! Only men.
Bc men give her a lot of attention and pursue her romantically. She’s a model I kid you not. I think that her looks are intimidating for other women
I’m nerdy and chubby girl next door and I try my best not to be too self conscious.
actually it took me three months to ask her out bc she was too good looking which was little threatening… i gave in bc she commented every single one of my social media posts lol.
She seems to be super into me but her dating is suspicious. I’ve dated both sexes since I was 14 so it feels kind of weird that she’s inexperienced. But I want to try!
I’m planning all kinds of cute dates. Next time we are going to my favourite cafe and art gallery tour. If we actually end up in relationship I’m going to spoil her rotten
Pic related is me thinking why is this woman messaging me out of nowhere
Depending where she grew up and How aware of her feelings she was, your date may have only ever had the chance to date guys/ allowed herself to date them
I'm glad you found someone really into you though, it does warm my little heart
This is so sweet! I hope that your dates go well. Seconding the anon above, there's reasons why she may not have dated women before. At least she's trying now? >>207710>Also am I the only one that lurks the lesbian thread to get away from dick.
I don't tbh. If I'm scrolling past and it catches my eye I'll read, but I don't lurk cause I wouldn't relate to most of the topics or "bihet" rants
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We should post some cool bi women from history.
it didn't! It's perfectly reasonable that not every Bi woman would immediately identify with lesbian stuff and a lot of anons do have a bone to pick with Bihets winch gets annoying even to me but I've learned to ignore it with a eye roll.>>208599
Garbo and Dietritch used to be a item No? If so what a power couple
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Oops, that photo is of Dietrich. Misleading filename! Here is the actual Greta Garbo.
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And here she is with some smooching action from Queen Christina.
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Is Tove Jansson considered bi? She had relationships with men before spending the rest of her life with a female partner
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Yes, she had love relationships with men but is most known for her relationship with Tuulikki.
She was really cool. I admire her for drawing satire of Hitler during WW2.
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Is anyone else really weirded out by the trend of women identifying as bi or sapphic, without being same sex attracted? I grew up in a very homophobic environment. You were either straight or lesbian, and being lesbian was very bad. Bisexuality didn't exist. I struggled so much with my feelings and my identity. Finally, I realized I was bi and that was normal and okay. When women treat it as a cool label, it's a huge culture shock to me.
Ugh, guess the early 2000s are not just style wise back in trend.
I wish those people would just stop because this is how you get all the "evil evil bihets" stories.
Same. Was so bad even the only other two kinda gay girls at my school were bi ( fancy school but in a third world country) and only one other lesbian ( who dressed kinda butch) and for those 2 bi girls, only one sort of gave me the Bi vibes and even that one was dating a dude, so finding Bi girls with extensive female dating history may sound like a wasteland sometimes lmao.
Anyone else has a bi radar in a sense? I can't be the only one that just knows from talking if a girl is Bi or not or had a strong hunch
I realised that the insecurity may be partially fueled by Internalized homophobia because if there genuinely Bi and only focusing on men without accounting for women I think there still in a way stiffling their sexuality for a arbitrary reason.
This only accounts for those that aren't genuinely penis centric lol. Some Bis just find a nice guy or find a good lay in men and I can't totally blame em but serial monogamists kinda make my eyebrows raise, Yknow?
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the bi women confess instagram is pretty good to follow.
The last point of the post collage made me think of something that was brought up in my radfem server-
Namely that the label Febfem can be a bit useless because the label bisexual already implies that you are able to become attracted to women.
It's ofc a lot more nuanced then that but I do hate that the need for a microlabel even came to be because be it gay or straight some people can't acknowledge that a bisexual has the potential of being in a long term let alone life long relantioship with the same sex
febfem doesn't just refer to the desire
to partner with men, but the choice to exclusively do so. it's true bisexual already implies the ability to do so, but seeing as most bi people are in straight relationships, it most definitely does not imply the preference or active choice to only partner with the same sex.
it's not a microlabel, it's about a choice to live your life a particular way.
Agreed. I've always disliked pick-me bisexuals the ones that hate other bisexual women and the ones that pretend to be bi, but the latter isn't really a bisexual
but this post said it better than I could.
The top right though>gay men (like all moids) willing to fuck anyone>women not wanting a woman who already has a bf
Not really a double standard, men and women are just different.
I actually had jokingly thought of using bi4bi before lol.
I'm sorry about your ex-gf; I do think that it's common for someone to experience their sexuality differently especially if it's as fluid as bisexuality so I suppose finding common ground can be tough to some but I do agree with anon that between a straight woman and a lesbian a bisexual is still much more likely to understand the nuances of what being a bi woman is regardless of preference
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I do sometimes get the thought of "if I was more feminine I would probably get laid." But I dont think it is worth it, being confident in my looks makes me seem more attractive than if I forced myself into more feminine style and felt unfortable. So maybe less options, but more likely to attract the ones that are into masculine women. Also some men are into it as well, maybe they assume you are a lesbian but just make a move on them yourself if you are interested.
>>209365>But what is it like to like men too? Is it just more subtle?
It's the same as liking women for me. I see nice woman butt in jeans, I ooga booga. I see nice man butt in jeans, I ooga booga.>I asked my mom why I don’t like men and she says I need to just meet one.
Retarded. She can't answer this for you. Although her advice has some truth to it: if you never interact with men you won't know if you like them or not. That having been said, she's probably trying to cope. >But she says it’s not a big deal if I’m not finding them hot yet, I may just need to open up to one. Do I need to try to touch a man before concluding im a gay?
I think she means to open up to one emotionally, not sexually, if you are curious about whether you could like a man as a partner. Forming some kind of meaningful relationship such as a friendship. I don't totally agree with her, but it's also not awful advice to get to know a man if you're actually curious. It's not something you should force yourself into just because you think a heteronormative life may be easier for you.>did any of you discover a love for men later on/after experience?
I wasn't attracted to men at all until my early-mid twenties, so there's that. But I knew before fucking one that I wanted to fuck one, you don't want to go into a sexual situation you aren't ready for in hopes that you'll warm up to it during or after. It would be really unpleasant to find out during that you aren't okay with having sex with men.>I have a little hope that i can be at least bi but I’m probably coping lol.
You probably are. I wouldn't recommend sleeping with one to find out, but safe nonsexual interactions with men might help you sort this situation out. You may find affirmation in a lesbian identity or you may decide you want to continue exploring it.>Is it normal to find men uninteresting until after experience with them?
I don't know, I think it's normal to not find many people interesting as romantic/sexual partners until you get to know them. Not that being sexually attracted to someone you don't know personally is abnormal, either. I guess it depends on what you want out of the relationship you have with them. If you want an intellectually or emotionally stimulating partner, you won't know if a man can satisfy that unless you talk to them. If you want sexual excitement, you'll probably know without getting to know them whether they can do that for you. Don't force yourself into comphet, but keeping an open mind to it isn't horrible if you aren't confident in your sexuality yet.
When I see an attractive man or woman my body reacts. I feel it in my vulva and I get wet. I have sexual thoughts about them. That's just how I know I am bisexual. It feels the same for both. For actually falling in love, it's the same too. I want to spend a lot of time with them because I have fun with them and they make me happy, and I want to become best friends that fuck.
I might just have a higher libido but it's not confusing to me, I never thought I'd have to try sex before knowing. I feel what I feel and the word to describe it is bisexual.
It was stupid but tl;dr lots of her manipulating me but lots of me being a suckup and a rube. I wasn't honest with her or myself about my real feelings. >>209924
I used to take it really personally and feel a lot of guilt when people would be biphobic online but I learned to stop. Maybe I am just more mature. Other people's bad experiences and stereotypes don't have anything to do with me and I know what I am, it's not my job to correct people or stand up for myself or even identify with what they are talking about at all
I like feminine/ pretty woman myself ( I can't say I prefer them since I'm not opposed to more masc or andro women either) but I feel it would depend how they talk about women or why there attracted to feminine women exclusively imo.
It's kinda like saying lesbians that like femmes aren't true lesbians or something
Can you infer your colleague is q lesbian or at least bisexual? If so you could start by trying to hang out with her a few times outside of work and see if you hit it off. Don't force it though if things don't hit off but if they do you could ask her on a proper date
If it sounds vague is because I'm trying to help you none the less
That's actually a bit comforting lol
But yea, I joined a few days ago and set it to dates today. It's honestly the only app so far where I never had any matches so it feels a bit odd
This question causes a lot of infighting, and different anons will have varying answers so lets just avoid this topic. This isn't the lesbian thread anyway, so lets keep the conversation away from them.>>210569
I'm sorry you're feeling that way, anon. Has he ever talked about his "type" in women? You'd be surprised at how many men are into women that look gay
I realized that even though I'm not scared of man there not compatible with the type of life I want to have, namely that I don't want to have kids as I'm physically unable to take care of an infant and wouldn't be able to give it proper care and we all know how eager men are to have babies but not necessarily take care of them and even if I found a nigel it wouldn't change my mind nor ever eliminate the risks for me.
Actually from all stereotypes and shit peddled at Bis, namely No women because of course people point their fingers at us, is that my same sex attraction will never be long lived or "valid
", as it does genuinely hurt me probably because it's hard to find old long term Bisexual couples where it's two women together ( be it a bi or a lesbian or 2 bi women) that had been so for decades. Tried Google and just kept giving me results about bi women with men winch is the last thing I wanna hear, so it gets frustrating lol.
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>>210803>Tried Google and just kept giving me results about bi women with men
I thought you were joking but jesus it's true. This is why I lurk lesbian places more, I just don't really get the whole thing with men
Same. I'd also rather be single until I die than be with a shitty man.>>210842
I feel like a lot of them give up or not even try because women tend to be more passive and wait to be approached (ime). Men literally throw themselves at you and there's more of them than women so.. yea. It really sucks. I also met a few women who were aware of being bi but ignored their attraction to women.
Luckily I'm at least willing to approach women and may try bars and a dating app or two and other types of events to approach women. I suppose me and everyone in this thread has to be their own Bisexual sapphic febfem whatever the hell you want to call yourself example since it's so scarce.
At least I will try to be positive in spite of myself lol
You need to learn how to drop small dogwhistles and ease into to the topic. Women in the community who are not straight passing like you are, have nowhere else to turn if they get outed as terfy. There is no het life to turn to, they lose it all. Have some empathy for people that are just trying to belong to the community at a time when it's so hostile to exist as a "wlw". Trust me though there are tons
of non handmaidens out there and a lot of the themby's are actually pretty insecure in their identity and just need a good female role model to break free of the cult.
Oh I hear that for sure, and it’s awful/disgusting, especially the way they can pretend nothing is wrong. It’s still a good example. >>211274
I’m so, so sorry that your experience with a woman was tainted and tragic instead of a nice one. Very true about the way men appear once you realize that they’re….well men and women are much better 9/10 times. I hope you can recover from those incidents and not have to settle for a moid, nonny
, but it’s also okay if you truly love the dude. That’s bisexuality babey lol
Doja cat? Shit I'm not the only one that thinks she's so pretty wtf
I'm not sure who else to include in my three way but just Doja would be peachy
this retarded quote>She has not yet formally come out or made a definitive statement about her sexual orientation, but has stated that she "like[s] both. I like dicks and I also like, um, I like people that I can have sex with. You can kind of have sex with anybody, right?"
and every aspect about her seems fake and insincere in general (but that's most celebs tbh)
Weak as fuck>>211161
Doechii and KStew
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i feel like the Kinsey scale is more male oriented and a female one would look more like picrel, many of the women who feel like they're bi when they have a string of boyfriends are fooled into believing that because of male based definitions of sexuality.
sorry to all the nonas who identify as bi when they're at 1.5-2, you're striaght.
Even if you trying to hit it and quit I'd avoid being this chicks "unicorn"
No amount of coom is worth getting involved with Poly people
I’m a 2 on the Kinsey scale, and I agree with the description because I have only been in straight relationships, but I would absolutely have sex with a woman… What does that make me?
I agree with >>211828
in that comphet has completely ruined what my experiences could have been. I tried to experiment while at college but was laughed at by my friends because they didn’t believe I could be bi, and the girl I happened to like was pretending to be bi.(Why do people do that?)
Anyway I’m in a straight relationship now, and I’m happy. I have niggling thoughts of what could have been but I’m just too old to start experimenting with my sexuality now.
I think you are just erasing actual lesbians and heterosexual women here. Being bi is more common for women, we dont need to force the ratio of bi and monosexuality to be the same as in moids.
t. probably a 3 on the scale
Then it's bullshit by the author's definition lol
I rather take my definition of "comphet" then. I would call it Beardimg since it's not unheard of for homosexuals to use heterosexual bonds to mask their sexuality but with bisexuals it's always a bit more complicated and situation ofc.
But tangents aside, Women are the shit.
Bearding is real, "comphet" is insane schizo shit.
Anyway, I love women. Love to date one one day. Damn this Eastern Euro shithole.
Oh I will soon enough and move to Europe where my chances are at least a bit increased.
Other then stressing about being dating material for girls and what not I'm mildly hopeful and optimistic
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Why is it that when I fantasise about having sex with a guy I want him to be big and strong and take control like an old school smut novel, but when I fantasise about girls I want a pillow princess who I can tease and go down on for hours?
Are any of those aside Shame even bi?>>212464
I dont know but shit taste lmao.
Neither, do you have a girl version?
From the bunch I only find Ezra kinda cute
i feel like it's a pretty common bi experience to be submissive with men but dominant with women. i'm mostly the same except i like to switch with both.>>212520
morrissey is bi and had a boyfriend. i might even fuck young morrissey cause of vidrel but not old morrissey. of the woke group i'd pick harry in his dorothy costume.
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I'm pretty sure Morrissey's sexuality is general distaste for the human race, not even joking, with that being said He was very good looking when young and problematic
bi bf is objectively better than woke bi bf.
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I'm all about dominating men and being nicer to the ladies.
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What are your thoughts on TATU? I loved their music when I was younger. I heard one of them is super homophobic though. I think one is also bi?
The homophobic one, Yulia, was bi and she said she wouldn't want a gay son because, in a nutshell, men being gay isn't the same as women being gay.
I know, and it’s happening
I think I’m lesbian
I'm the exact opposite.
For women it's whatever (just don't be overweight and too mentally ill) but for men it's very very specific
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There's been some drama on my twitter feed today about bi women who haven't dated other women (don't follow any of these people but somebody I follow replied disagreeing). What do you think?
It's twitter, just stay away from the brain rot.
Being lgbt is incredibly trendy right now and people are jumping on the trend. Nothing new and the same crap about "bihet" women has been said since the early 2000s
These sorts of comments are so annoying to me, why do women always have to prove themselves? Yes, I’m sure a lot of women say they’re bi to sound cool and don’t really mean it, but it’s not my place to judge or decide that for them. Some of us did
grow up in conservative areas and were constantly told that same-sex attraction is a one way ticket to hell, and some of us have a hard time coming to terms with it as adults. I don’t understand why some people feel the need to think so deeply about other people’s sexual orientation.
People are always debating bi women's sexuality, what's new?>>213496>why do women always have to prove themselves?
This is part of the reason why I can't take this stuff seriously anymore even if I sometimes agree with some of the stuff they say
. I don't like to use the "but why can't women do the same stuff as men!" argument, but I hate that these people always want bi women to prove themselves, but not bi men. I feel like whenever I see people talk about bi men, it's about whether or not women are allowed to reject men for being bisexual.
I've slept with women but haven't dated one seriously. I'd love to but the numbers just aren't in my favor here. Sometimes that's all it is.
That and I'm too chickenshit to approach women whereas men do all the approaching usually. It happens. Men are easy to get and women can be intimidating because you do think highly of other women and value them and fear rejection more from them.
I get your point; though it can still be none the less frustrating to be attracted to women as Bisexual and being demeaned over it
( I'm still not mad at lesbians for it because not every lesbian has a knee jerk reaction to me or my sexuality. Some Do, but there not worth the effort to be too pressed about)
I found a ~Sapphic~ discord server that has a bit of woke brainot and polyshits there and there but it's largely apolitical ( more so then I was expecting) and pretty chill and I feel weirdly welcomed in there even if I don't agree with the politics and what not. I guess my expectations were pretty low but there's not much you can choose unless you want to do a community yourself
If so hit me up lolol
The one I'm at is called Sappho gang on discord
But frankly I'm half way considering doing a Bisexual only girl club but I'm not sure how well that would go in theory or if I have the stuffing to run it.
exaggerated, insecure bihets who are mad that a lesbian told them they're not gay for dating men exclusively and only making out with other women as a fun experiment made it into a meme. >I married a man 4 years ago after I broke up with my previous Nigel of 5 years but I had a girlfriend for two weeks when I was 16 so it doesn't make me less knowledgeable about gay issues! Stop erasing my bisexuality you ugly fat dykes, to think that a fellow LGBT person would be so judgmental!
Yup. I even complained anonymously in my server about not always believing when a woman is bisexual ( or lesbian) and got shot down lolol.
Like as if you don't have a third sense about this shit or can't look at someone's dating history and draw conclusions. Especially since i don't think every woman is lying anyhow
It seems really dumb and naive to think nobody ever lies about their sexuality, like that uwu everyone is valid
shit when really it's obvious that being gay or bi has become a woke trend. Although in 2021 I'd expect more women to lie about being "pansexual" or queer than bi.
True; or a non descript sapphic/ WlW.
Though i don't think there's nothing inheritly wrong with neither sapphic or queer as descriptive terms, the straights ruined it for me.
( pity as Sapphic is a pretty nice sounding term; Queer can go die in a ditch)
Kek I wish I could offer advice, but I really relate. The few openly bi women I met irl were just looking for casual hookups, it was hard to meet another woman genuinely interested in a relationship and not just wanting a fling/unicorn or to “experiment.” I’m sure they’re out there but it’s hard, even more difficult now with Covid. Good luck to you nonnie
I wish i could offer an advise but does your area have LGB(T) driven events? Gay bars? Are in a position legally or otherwise of hosting an event? Have you looked at Social media groups with a strong lesbian/ bisexual focus? ( even if Woke-ish there's always caveats and you can even see if there's apolitical ones or those that exclude troons but aren't ~Terfy~ / prime fertile ground for Cryptoterfs/ Radfems or those that can be peaked if you are worried about this type of shit or have low tolerance of it.)
There's ways i can think of that you can meet women without the clownery of dating apps and i will at least try some myself before i dabble with dating apps.
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I'd love to know how to meet women too. I have in the past but not many at all. The problem for me is I live a very isolated life and only really chat to people a little at work, I don't have IRL friends I can go to bars or groups with and I don't want to post selfies on Facebook for joining ~wlw~ groups because I prefer to keep to myself on public social media. I guess it's a problem if it prevents me from finding someone, apps are hard to begin with and I'm already in my late 20s. Sorry for the vent kek but you're not alone, I feel clueless about it all too and keep talking to men out of loneliness more than anything else.
Honestly about bars/ events i half way expect my first times to be done alone before i can find anyone to mingle or befriend; so you may need to at least ease up to the idea of breaking out of your shell nonita.
Also your age shouldn't matter too much. You aren't that
old ( it's not like your 50) and you'll likely be able to find a girl within her mid twenties to late 20s at least or in their very early 30s if you don't mind dating slightly older.
If there a lesbian rather then bi, it's very likely they haven't dated much if at all. LGs with little dating experience or sexual background aren't as uncommon as one is led to believe ( not everyone is blessed to live in a big city, let alone one with a gay scene. I only meet one open lesbian in my school with a gf in college in my last year of HS and two bisexuals and both were dating guys in HS. The rest of my classmates we're all straight and no one in my school really knew i was bisexual)
Just suck it up and go to your local events anyway. Even if only 5% of the people there are actually normal LGB people, that's more lesbians and bi women than you could possibly meet by just staying at home. When interacting with troons at events, use "they" unless they correct you and grey rock them.>>216155
No one cares if you go to bars or meetups alone. You just have to pretend you are confident and having fun and approach people. My favorite opening lines are>Hey, are you here alone? Me too! I'm anon.>Hey, I don't think we've met before. I'm anon.>I love your shoes/shirt/dress/etc! >You guys look like you're having fun! Mind if I join you?>Have you been here before? This is my first time here.>Is that food/beverage good?
Don't worry about looking stupid. If the people you are approaching don't like you, you'll never have to see them again. I go to clubs or bars and just introduce myself to people until I find someone who wants to hang out with me. I usually can get at least a couple of people's contact info every time I do this. It also helps to have instagram or snapchat. I don't really use either, but I've been thinking about making accounts, since most people under 30 seem to prefer connecting through social media rather than texting. For reference, I'm in my mid 20s and reasonably attractive but a literal sperg.
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Can anyone here relate to this? It comes off a bit immature to me but maybe the OP is young
Yeah i agree with others; if she was Bi, i think she'd angst more about being ashamed of her desires/ affection if she was struggling to see herself with nothing but men, or otherwise feeling unsatisfied/ a bit trapped by it.
(I was sort of like that, but then a switch flipped and i realized that i could date girls and had the capacity of it, kinda of all in my own because it's something that happened in my past/ inherit to me. )
Agree with the others. Sadly r/bisexual will say that anyone is valid
and bi, even if a woman thought once to maybe kiss a girl in a dream 10 years ago and never again.
>>216722>cant stop seeing women as only friends
Okay this sounds straight. I used to be ashamed and scared of dating women, but I always had the sexual attraction and crushes. >>216784
Women are so oversexualised in society that is no wonder teens get confused if they want to have close friends or admire the looks of other girls.
The problem is if you suggest someone might just be confused now you get accused of gatekeeping and being a bad bi kek. I don't think it's helpful to the bi community (whatever that is) to make all our discussions about how everyone is always valid
no matter what
True; the only bis that have a right to complain extensively are those that were given a shit hand by actually prioritizing the same sex or having same sex partners ( and arguably the bisexual women that have to bend over backwards usually to prove their bi or that their same sex attraction is legit) , since Homophobes/ ignorant people don't care if you can technically like the opposite sex if you are a target of bigotry-
There's bigger fish to fry y'know
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DA it's because their gushing is strictly PG rated. Pic not really rel just very annoying
Absolutely retarded vent incoming, I think some of you might be able to relate as well. Funny how literally every single woman online is bi while I've yet to meet one irl who is into women the way they play online they soo are. I tried dating apps, like really, and most women on there were bi, not unexpected but when I tried to get with them I was met with "but I still have feelings for my male friend/exbf" and one of them literally just added me to vent about her ex and the one other just asked whether she should get with her male friend, I just said to go for it. Like, maybe it's because I'm ugly as fuck? I'd expect a woman on a dating app matching with another woman to at least be open to the prospect of dating a woman? I don't think that's too much to fucking ask. I did get with a lady who was in the city for her cousin's marriage, it was kind of a bust but I digress. I'm just venting. They posture all "omg mommy step on me" online, overcompensating really, but have no game in real life and are so obviously not into sex with women. Or maybe I'm taking it all too personal getting blatantly rejected and maybe, there just aren't that many bi/lesbian women where I live. I just get highhopes seeing so many women online embrace their attraction to women but it doesn't translate to irl, or all of them have already been taken.
When this happened, I was drunk and didn't think too much of it, but the sober daytime gave me some time to stew over it and get upset lol.
I was at a party and meshing pretty well with these girls I'd just met, definitely wlw vibes. They asked me if I "liked girls", and I said "Yeah, I like girls too!" which I thought would imply that I'm bi.
We exchange social media handles and one of them sees my pfp with my husband and says, "Ew, I thought you were a hot lesbian? You're with a man??" and I said, "Yeah, he's pretty cool. He also has lesbian parents so I lucked out." She said, "You're still in a straight relationship though".
The night went on as normal, but I woke up feeling upset that yet again biphobia is alive and well in my social circles. I'm sick of people pretending biphobia is exaggerated or a non-issue. Imagine the language being turned around so that it was a straight person judging a bi person for being in a same-sex relationship.
>>218307>"Ew, I thought you were a hot lesbian? You're with a man??"
This totally happened>Imagine the language being turned around so that it was a straight person judging a bi person for being in a same-sex relationship.
People aren't oppressed for being straight lmao
if i'm going to be a dumbass on anon i'm going to go all out and complete my victim
We met at a dating app. She did have a boyfriend while seeing me, I only heard about it when they broke up. (The reason was that the second gf of the moid didnt want to be poly anymore lol.)>>220754
She is very attractive, not some blue haired tumblr nerd. But yeah I think it is not going to work.
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Being a femme/straight passing bisexual women into femmes is such a struggle sometimes and letting my mind go GRUG UNGA BUNGA over women I don't know irl helps me cope. Would literally crawl through a mile of broken glass just to touch a square inch of charli XCXs skin.
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This is my ideal relationship
>>221871>bisexual women who prefer feminine women are just spicy straights because feminine women are the mainstream standard and they have obviously just internalized the male gaze
This is the shuwu type of bihet that only wants femmes so that they can conveniently pass as "best friends" instead of lovers and that potential male Nigels don't find her an "ugly dyke" right away and they can hit it up immediately.
>bisexual women who prefer masculine women are just spicy straights because they obviously see masculine women as men-lite
This is the type of bi type who's male attracted but wants to make sure her partner doesn't cheat on her like a moid would so she takes a butch whose dating pool is indefinitely smaller to be her lap dog. Often tries to gradually turn her into a femme to become the one described above.
I'm being hyperbolic of course but you wanted a fight kek
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apparently lesbians would rather fuck a tranny agp than a bisexual woman. lovely.
it's also because bisexuals who could
be attracted to them won't see them as the gender they want to be. they won't see a "woman" but maybe a prettyboy at most if they're decent looking
maybe if he was being used sexually and held hostage by two women or something it would be hot, but otherwise 0/10>MMF
With double penetration utilized, 9.5/10>FFF
mythical fantasy 10/10 >anything with a troon
ftm could range from cute to depressing, mtf smelly
>>224125>Also my ideal MFF scenario would be something like me and a gf seducing a man together, not the cliche unicorn shit
So fulfilling the same "hawt lesbians" scrote fantasy as the unicorn shit except with a slightly different angle? Kek>If it involved one or two FTMs I’d be very into it.
First time I ever hear of someone having a fetish for Aidens
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With right people, I am down for all.
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Gross. No troon gets close to me.
What did the deleted post say? It probably was a tranny.
Most people who hate on bi women are troonsbians. Kek.
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This might be cringe
sorry you're triggered
i didn't like your post about being a "slutty cokwhore (together with your girlfriend because you totally like women too!!!!)"
idk if this will be unpopular, but lady gaga comes across as a clout bi to me. i like her music but not her ~queer~ image. she says her poker face song is about bisexuality/ constantly thinking about women during sex with a man, but i've never seen her actually date a woman. she's dated like ~7 men since coming out as bi, but no women? i don't think your thoughts are consumed with fucking women as much as you say they are, lady. there are rumors of women she's slept with but she's never dated women publically or confirmed any of that. when you wanna be a bicon but the only instances of you having gay sex and relationships are unanswered rumors i start to get suspect.
also adding that katy perry sucks, probably the most cringe "queer" celebrity
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I like Tove Lo and was a bit sad to hear she's never dated a woman even though she says she slept with them. I think she's cute. I also like Doja Cat (kek), Drew Barrymore and Dana Terrace (animation cow) in that I think they're cute but who knows if they've ever dated a woman either. It's hard for a lot of us but surely easier if you're famous?
What would you consider gay/bi female taste in women, nonny
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I'm so upset, there's no winning.
My lesbian best friend found out I have a boyfriend and she felt betrayed. She told me "I could do so much better" which I understand but then she told me about all the "bi" women who she was interested in ended up with men and how they won't chose her. That hurt, she doesn't know the amount of women who have rejected me because I've dated a male in the past, the women who look down upon you because you are bisexual and that's alright, you should be able to reject anyone you don't want. What hurts me is when I go and get along with a male and end up dating him suddenly I "can do better" suddenly I am a "bi-het" suddenly I was never attracted to women in the first place.
There is no winning, I can't be pure enough for a woman and that kills me.
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I’m turning 28 this year and I’m still pining over my best friend with a bf like I’m a closeted middle schooler. You think I’d learn better by now. The worst part is she talks about loving me and dating one day and how we’ll probably end up together one day but she’s just not ready to leave her shitty boyfriend I guess? I just laugh it off but it’s like a needle under my fingernails every time.
>>229556>she literally propositions me to make out or even have sex>bf>she’ll be like “I wish I could have both of you,”
Please move on and don't let this idealized crush on a very selfish woman get in your way from actually meeting someone worthwhile.
Late to the party but I love you nonny
. This is too funny.
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From now own I'll only date bisexual women, I am sick and tired of puritanism. And I am sick of not being able to have this conversation in bisexual spaces, every time someone wants to get off their chest the horrible treatment lesbians put us through some random white knight comes yelling "SCROTE", "KYS", "XYZPHOBIC". I don't give a fuck anymore, we bisexual women should leave the LBG (queers too) and let the L's and G's tear each other apart alone. I swear dating feels literally like a job interview, I got so tired that right off the bat I have to say "Yes I've fucked men" and "Yes I TRULY love women" like ffs, I understand that "fake bis" of the past come haunting lesbians in their dreams??? or some shit I don't fucking know like some lesbians won't be friends with you because they see you beneath them in the purity scale. I am completely and utterly done.
also that stupid dumbass moid tier kinsey scale shit needs to die, stop "spectrumfying" sexuality, fuck off.
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I'm not wrong tho
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They are fucking misogynistic and no amount of ass kissing is gonna change that.
Yeah it's cringy, but it might ward off idiotic gender specials and "anti-terves". I also welcome more terven ideas of what to put in a dating profile.
Febfem is a good idea, I'd like to find someone like that.
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Sorry a boo hoo bpd bislut story incoming
I am so tired. I miss women (specifically my ex gf) so much I often cry. I have dreams about women at least weekly. I left my ex gf for a moid a couple years ago when we were on a break, due to horrible drama and abuse from both sides and sexual issues (I always made her cum SO many times, but she told me I'm a rapist if I expect her to fo anything for me). She slit up her legs for me to not leave her, but I fucking did it anyway.
The reason I wanted to jump into a relationship with my current bf is that he said he is also bisexual, and would like an open relationship / FMM shit where he would get dicked down (I am sorry I am a coomer at heart). He later went back on his word, and in addition turned out to be extremely jealous. I lost frieds partly due to it. My ex has understandably cut all contact, though not before sexting me she misses me and thinks me during sex with her multiple gfs. When we were together she said she was probably asexual and made me feel like a horrible sex pest.
So now I have laid my bed with my actions, and I have to live with it. I absolutely hate missing women so much. I can't understand where the desire for my bf went, and why his body feels so wrong because it's not a woman's. I have legitimately considered religious conversion therapy, even though I am not even a church member. I want to rip the gay part out and be a good little waif, who only wants to serve her husband. Getting married feels like a fucking awful tought though, and I have nightmares about it. But I do not deserve women either, as I am the stereotypical bihettie just looking for some thrill teehee. No woman I have been with actually wanted me, or would want because of how I am. I can't leave my bf because he is actually all I have and I don't want to ruim his life too. I just feel more and more like kyssing is the only way out.
Yes I am very mentally ill I know thank you
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Go simp for your dykes to the lesbian thread, I don't give a fuck about this circular "Bisexual women prefer MEN and I as a lesbian would never give them a chance therefore they were ALWAYS straight in disguise" bullshit.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17405904.2014.974634
Here's the whole fucking thesis if you are interested
I'm not reading that lmao, claiming that lesbians are at fault for your own mental illness while also claiming that messy bis are just a stereotype is hilarious.
Judging from how much lesbians seem to make you seethe while you call them sluts and dykes but also try to viciously argue Bi women/male majority is just bullshit, there is only one conclusion to make.
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Here's a screenshot of my "schizo link" if anyone wants go off with the tranny bullshit.
All my grand romances have been with bisexual women. This has got to be some mostly internet based conflict or concern, right? I hate the term 'wlw' because it's cause everyone's afraid of the term 'same-sex relationship/attraction nowadays, but at least it shows lesbian and bi women are out and about in the world. usually complaining on twitter or posting cottagecore stuff, but still
So let me get this straight>Had an abusive relationship with a bpd-chan with a one-sided sex life of her being a pillow princess >Left said abusive bitch for a moid only because you wanted to see him get fucked by another man>Ex slit her legs when you left her>Turns out the man lied about being bi and was a possessive, jealous scrote who drove your friends away>Now you're dreaming of conversion therapy to pray the gay away and refusing to leave the piece of shit moid because "he's all you have"
There's so much to unpack but surprisingly enough this isn't the first or the last time I've seen this happen. Have you ever been in a functional relationship? Gay and bi people are subjected to minority stress a lot and develop personality disorders and mental health issues due to the ostracization and abuse caused by homophobia so they can become crazy fuckers, driving bisexuals and gay people memed into comphet into escaping into a heterosexual relationship because they think it's guaranteed stability from all the craziness. Of course in their vulnerable state they get taken advantage of a lot and I constantly see bisexual women leave their needy bipolar girlfriend for a man only to be unhappy in a different way and longing for a lesbian relationship.
As a personal anecdote I know this girl who had a ridiculously abusive
relationship with an absolutely horrible girlfriend, after breaking up she dated only men due to her trauma. However years after she started dating a girl by chance, with whom she fell in love with hard and became happier than she had ever been with a man. So you're not at all in the wrong for longing for a female relationship and giving it time you might find the woman of your life and realize what actual, healthy love means. Just work on your own mental issues for the time being instead of trying to find someone, male or female, to dump them on and learn to be alone for a moment.
So you are attracted to your partner still, but besides them you lose interest in that gender/sex?
Have you had experience with that?
(I guess It’s hard to believe that stuff won’t bleed into the relationship)
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does anybody else really hate "bi culture" type posts? they always pick the fugliest men (i.e. brendon urie) and reduce bisexuality into this clean, SFW, tumblr-ified version of what it actually is. sorry if somebody's said this before but i wanted to get it off my chest
Why are you here, just to seethe?>>246163
I know Morrissey is apparently a problematic
moid but fuck if I don't love The Smiths with all my heart. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out is my anthem, I love it so fucking much. It was my and my ex gf's "the song"
to make fun of how mentally ill you are. "yeah i have cycles where i'm not attracted to my partner, that's totally a real sexuality and not a mental illness and btw if anyone refuses to fuck me i will cry and link them gender studies basket-weaving papers on why that's problematic
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Why are the baiters always in our thread, jfc.
Morrissey being problematic
only makes me like him more. Don’t even agree with his opinions I'm just tired of people assuming everyone who isn’t straight has the same politics. tfw no unwoke bi bf
Abort it immediately. Agree with >>246982
though, maybe she's a normie whom I could troonpill, but women deep into the kweer fandom are not worth it, they generally are very vocal about their opinions and easy to detect, so I wouldn't even talk to them in the first place.
pansexual is a no go but i frequently just call myself queer as a blanket term because bisexuals get unwarranted questions of authenticity from people
also queer is an oldass term whereas pansexual is nuage twittershit
Yeah, I grew up in a really small town so I heard queer used as an insult too many times to feel comfortable with the term as an adult, especially because some of that was directed at my lesbian relative who I have always looked up to. It seems like it really has become a hip term for spicy straight people though as >>247009
said, pretty insulting to actual homosexuals and bisexuals
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>>247082>pretty insulting to actual homosexuals and bisexuals
you don't get to decide who's legitimate or not because they use words you don't like, fucking twittertard. go outside and speak to other humans for once
>>247547I’m not bi myself so sorry
but maybe if you remind yourself that no matter what you changed about yourself, you’d be read as feminine and specifically in this case, the expression of it that he is attracted to strongly enough to override his usual preferences. Everything female about you is just your existence and not something variable, you know? So it’s a matter of exercising self respect rather than relating to a sense of femininity.
Also, on the topic of being uncomfortable, like, being female around him. Remember that you’re just two people together and you being a girl and he a boy doesn’t mean anything extra, so don’t feel like you have to match up to or meet any new criteria.
If you lose interest after a year he probably isnt right for you. Did you just pick the first person who was attracted to you and nice? I have done that myself and those relationships sucked. >>247547
Maybe just try internalise the fact that straight relationships dont have to have stereotypical gender roles. Is there something he could be unknowingly doing to make you feel dysphoria? Like in sex or compliments of your body, comments about the periods etc.
yeah, that's the issue, i don't know what the root is. i know i'm attracted to men, and i know i'm attracted to him specifically. but men just aggravate my dysphoria for some reason…>>247553
i don't know how to exercise self-respect in that regard… i used to have such low self esteem. i got better on my own though. he has a psychologist friend he wants me to meet, she's a woman so i'm thiking i'd bring it up with her. when i'm with a woman, we both have periods so i don't mind. but around him i feel ashamed for having normal female function…>>247557
yeah, you're right. i actually really like that he's shorter than me, haha. and i like to walk on the left (where men usually walk) and act like the man in the relationship. i don't think he's doing anything unknowingly other than having a Y chromosome…
>>247560>feeling ashamed over female functions
(Ayrt and I mean you absolutely no disrespect or blame in the following btw)Oof
. Sounds like you have some residual misunderstood or negative associations with femaleness/womanhood deep inside. When everyone is the same, being female is neutral right? But then around men, societal gender appears, evoking comparison and those bad associations.
Without going too deep into it, being female (as an organism and socially from an existential/moral standpoint) is not worse than being male in any regard. More relevantly to you, femaleness is also completely neutral to observe. It isn’t an offence or affront to anyone else’s nature, nor does it deserve to be diminished.
For example, periods are lit —gorey af, metal to experience and poetically godlike in the wider sense. At the same time, menstruating while somebody else isn’t, doesn’t do anything to that person and they won’t think anything about it. Neither should you, as it’s too good a personal attribute to want to ‘fix’.
Maybe you feel like you need to be taken differently by others for the way you are as a person to make sense? Maybe in your attraction to men, the ‘boyishness’ or ‘coolness’ you like, feels unattainable? The thing here, is that femininity should begin and end at femaleness. Despite how culture is gendered, when people like/see you, they also like the attributes you might see as masculine, it’s just as shiny and attractive. It also doesn’t bother or confuse anyone, so you don’t need to make up for or enhance it.
Self respect in this situation, is just understanding that there’s nothing wrong with you. Respecting your womanhood in this case and not allowing perceptions of maleness to diminish it. When confronted with what it seems someone else has, still holding your own version in good esteem.
Men can be however they are and you’ll still be perfect. Your boyfriend loves you as you are and so should you. I also hope everything goes well with the psychologist and you feel better!
i think my biggest issue is that i honestly wish he would just belittle me for being female and beat me. lol. i have the exact opposite problem wherein i wish i had an abusive
partner but they've all been so nice to me regardless of sex and paradoxically it hurts more because i'm not used to it. cluster B much huh.>>247610
at risk of sounding insane, which i do not deny being, i started starving myself and realised trooning was an inferior negative coping mechanism
How about the troons, did you notice them as well? This is one of the biggest reason I'm reluctant to download an app.>too well adjusted
What do you mean by that?
You can just date men, right? How were they sexually abusive
? If you view anything sexual with a woman as abusive
and get uncomfortable from the thought of being with any women, you're probably straight already.
I wonder of this has to do with culture and region.
I don't feel safer with a man because the thought always on my mind is "how can I protect myself from him if ever comes to that". I'm from a country where femicide is very high and people are pretty much desensitized to male violence, and this is how I was raised, with my own father telling me "if you ever own a gun, don't tell your boyfriend", knowing from a young age how to keep secrets from men and never completely trust any of them. I feel I would be safer with a woman except for the fact that we would have to deal with homophobia, which I obviously wouldn't worry about with a man. There are two types of danger there. In the end, I feel safer being single.
I'm an oldfag, been with men and women over the years and I find the difference in attraction interesting. I could see an image of pretty much any naked stranger of a woman who is around my age and within a healthy weight bracket and see her as sexually appealing. There's bonus points for certain traits that I like but it's really not hard to find that physical appeal in women.
With men I have to find that one-in-ten-thousand guy whose face I like initially and then I've to get attached to him as a person.. and over time I can start to see his naked body as appealing and something I'd want to interact with. Which has happened before but like.. I do question why it's so much harder to find a man attractive an all levels. That last little stage of finally reaching 'even your penis is appealing' is a rare find for me and it's getting rarer with age too. If I wasn't living in such a homophobic place I'd give up on men given those odds are against me.
For me it's like… I do not know if I am attracted to men or just the attention they give and the excitement of a new relationship (I'm a BPD looney demon so those are like the core of my being - also name a more iconic duo than BPD and bisexuality). I like men's faces in pics and irl, but their bodies do nothing for me. I do find sex with men uhhh nice I guess, but I never come (without toys) or with hookups, so I think it's partly because of the attention.
Then again, I remember reading how women are kind of raised and trained to find women sexually appealing, since women are objectified so much by the media. Plus some straight women watch lesbian porn and some lesbians gay male porn so ????
Sometimes I wish I was born a moid. Their sexuality is much more straight forward and simple.
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oh my god, I'm a BPD bisexual too!! Let's be friends.
And on the topic of attraction, tbh because of all the rejection I've received I just stopped questioning what I like and why I like it. In my personal case I like both men and women equally but if that's not the case with you don't beat yourself over it, is normal. You don't have to justify your sexuality to anyone, just do what you want, is already hard as it is go have fun instead. <3
i used to find ftms hot until i saw the "t dick" thing and it repulses me. microdicks are the least attractive things on the human body imo and a piece of female anatomy mimicking that from hormone usage is just vile to me.
i also would not be able to date a ftm with tit scars. those, too, make me feel physically nauseous.
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BPD BIS UNITE! >I feel like a fucking demon
yes absolutely, the stigma is so fucked up and prevalent that it comes from literally all the other groups (L, G and straight) including ours at times. I hope you feel less alone now that you found a fellow demon girl. <3 much love <3
God this reminds me that not only am I the BPD bihettie from earlier, I think I'm ALSO poly. God I wish I was not like this. I have actually not been in a poly relationship ever not will I probably ever be (poly people look DISGUSTANG so often lol) but I have issues with wanting to have sex/relationship with multiple people I cannot get rid of. I think it has to be connected to the BPD and wanting validation for sure. I just absolutely hate being a walking stereotype.>>249527
I love u nonna!
I don't understand why so many other bi anons say this kind of stuff. You don't have to be proud your sexuality but this self-loathing thing is dumb. Excluding men from your dating pool is always an option. Of course that attraction is never going to go away, but why feel ashamed of that? Just let yourself be attracted to men. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with you.
Maybe what I'm saying sounds callous, but I just don't like seeing bi women say they don't like themselves. Our natural attraction isn't anything to be ashamed of. If you really feel that way then maybe it's time to take a break from LC.
i'm a woman who dresses alt, sometimes in a more androgynous way and i'm not a fakeboi or theyby, don't give up hope anon we're out here>>250990
you can't help who you're attracted to so there's no point in being ashamed. sometimes it helps to remember that you have no obligation to date or cater to men just because there are some who you're attracted to, but if you do end up with a guy there's nothing wrong with that either. don't be hard on yourself for something you can't help that isn't even inherently a bad thing
I've had a sort of epiphany which is improving my life so much. I've been questioning my bisexuality actually, but I don't feel comfortable stating that I am a lesbian, as it feels disrespectful. I've never been in a romantic relationship or had any physical contact with anybody at all, but I've spent the past year trying to "fix" myself and make myself palatable to men (I'm an androgynous-looking, tall autist) out of societal pressure, while being uncomfortable with the actual presence of men. I'm realizing that I should just totally lean into my androgyny. Since I was younger, I've been read as lesbian constantly, even by straight people. And several women have even flirted with me. I've just lacked the confidence to flirt back or be playful at all. I've been working on my physical fitness – jogging, and I'm gonna get back into weight training. I've become so much happier in the process of trying to appeal to women instead of men. I'm working on becoming more confident and assertive, and seeking out help for my mental health issues. (I generally think that, in my personal experience, women find my depression less palatable than men do, because my lack of self confidence is something that men see as something to exploit) Just feeling kinda free. IDK.
That's really nice anon! Self improvement should be for yourself first, but there is nothing wrong with wanting to be a better person before eventually finding a partner (if you want one) I resonate with you because I used to try and look 'palatable' to other people, aka look like a normie to fit in with other girls, and while it did give me some attention I never really felt right trying to keep up that facade. I had really long hair but ended up shaving it all off and of course that made me look weird to some people but honestly I felt better like that then trying to fit into a boring mold. I am trying more bizzare looks with my style and though it puts some people off the people I do meet that like it are more the people I want to be around anyway. It sucks we are conditioned to seek approval from people we don't even fucking like sometimes, I don't know why, that's society I guess.
I think you'll meet someone who notices your confidence in yourself and will appreciate and grow with that ♥
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Thought that this fits here
sorry for off topic but yes… this was years ago during the darkest time of my life when i was on birth control for acne. i literally cant forgive myself. i fully consented but when i recall those moments its like that scene in event horizon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwqv3mZsyM
idk what i was thinking. i got this idea in my head that fucking a guy was this social milestone i needed to reach to stop being such a dyke autist…
how old are you? do the memories ever fade?
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My ex-friend in high school was not a good friend at all, but was at the same time. I've been thinking about how she told me I hate how when I'm around you, I feel like I can act weird. And I think she meant she felt safe to be herself around me. This would have been pleasant to hear if she wasn't such a bitch to me most of the time, but had she been any other woman I probably would have passed out from love. I have a bf now though. I'm very happy with him, but sometimes I think about what could have been…
it's hard to say because a lot of bi women have extremely conflicted, negative feelings about men and don't want to actually date them, despite being occasionally attracted. that said, the gold star shit IS psycho and extremely stupid.
i don't want lesbians who did self-harm or tried to get with a man due to insecurity to identify as bi when they're not, BUT i don't think agonizing over whether you're gay or bi is good for you at all. i'd say don't worry about it just yet and focus on healing your shame/anxiety while dating only who you want to date. it'll all fall into place eventually.
lesbians aren't harassing women who've had sex with men or rape victims
but hide the insecurity they cause you behind that excuse i guess
what does this even mean? where did i ever imply that? you are legitimately making shit up at this point.>>254286
ohhhh now i get it. YOU'RE one of those insane bitches i was talking about! no wonder
You were right, anon just has a victim
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Damn I kinda want all the Bi nonnies to feel good about themselves and their sexuality but I know the stigma and push back is fucking venomous. I wanna tell you to not give up but I am also an absolute reject, I wouldn't touch anyone of the LGTwhatever community with a 6ft pol. But that doesn't mean it has to be your case, I do want all of you to find a good community that accepts and respect your bisexuality, however it looks, no need for justification. I haven't found that for my self and I may never will BUT there's always a change I may. I don't want any of you to feel alone, because this road is fucking lonely as hell, but I'm gonna be super corny and say you will always have me as your sister. I will always have your back and slap those nasty moid tier standards of sexuality out of your head. Gaddamn it I just want ya'll to be okay in your bisexual soul my BPD is acting up. I love you all. fuck
i wish that for you too nonny
thank you for the positivity
>where did i ever imply that?>i also didn't say lesbians are the ones doing it but someone (many someones, in fact) out there is and they are constantly talking about being gold stars
how aren't you talking about lesbians but you're also talking about someone (many someones, in fact) who are constantly talking about being goldstars? give me a break>>254298
except this gen can't stop complaining about being victims
of lesbians because you had sex with men that one time and can't stop talking about it to lesbians
>>254401>Do bi girls have a general type?
There's no "type" for bisexual women imo, our sexuality is too fluid and different for every individual person. You've probably already done this, but does she ever talk about any people, physical features or personality traits that she likes on social media? Do you know who she has dated in the past?
In general, changing yourself to fit someone else's ideal isn't a good idea or way to start off a relationship, but I hope everything goes well nonna. Good luck.
Lol i get what you’re saying but im not a bpd chan, I’m just rather desperate.>>254410
Yeah it’s true i can’t have a relationship based on lies. I think she might like more confident girls based on the stuff she likes, but apart from that, no clue. And I’m generally confident except for around her, then i go retard mode by accident. And she’s kind of shy so i know i have to be the strong one even if i don’t feel like it. I feel like such a stalker right now but thanks for the advice nonna, goodbi
boo hoo. are you one of those weirdos that go online and ask people if they're gold stars? or insist that a lesbian whose been pressured into trying it with a man once cannot possibly be homosexual. and yes, like i said repeatedly, none of those unhealthy behaviors mean you or the other weirdos that do this are lesbians. lol i think you're all more likely to be het/bihet trolls or sadistic moids.
whoever, whatever you are, you do have a victim
complex. it seems you think you are justified in harassing women, attempting to convince them that they are not homosexual when they are, and then you cry when they point out what you're doing is misogynistic and homophobic.
>an excuse to call lesbians psychos and incels who harass women like men
alright. YOU just brought up men and incels, so if the shoe fits, slip it on. idc if you're a lesbian, stop harassing women like men then. stop acting psycho. problem solved. you can't hide behind that and oppression olympics to convince yourself you're punching up when you're not. i don't care if you hate bisexuals or something, not my problem. but i am sick of people like you confusing and degrading same-sex attracted women regardless of their sexuality, and sick of you spreading lies about how sexuality actually works, and sick of you acting like female socialization doesn't exist suddenly or that lesbians are somehow magically untouched by it.
this is my last reply to you. you're a homophobe, a misogynist, and shit-stirrer.
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Jokes on you, I have been rejected by both women and men for years.
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>didn't realize i'm bi until in my twenties bc i was deep in denial
>thought that i just tried to skinwalk the girls whose style i liked but no, i had a crush on them
>actually tried to skinwalk my guy crushes too
>this has been hitting me like a train
>it really doesn't matter because i'll be a forever alone autist anyway
Fuck my life.
Because men fucking suck. Any woman who's attracted to women and blessed with half a brain cell will pick women every time.
My assumption is that the 90% are either too lazy for gay dating, "bi" for clout, or just retards who haven't figured out that dating men is a losing game.
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Was told last evening by wokies friends of friends that if i was bisexual but refused to sleep with trans ppl i was transphobe because bis don't have genital preferences kek
LMAO. I've even been told by so-called radfems that I'm misogynistic for not being attracted to TIFs and that it obviously means I must only be attracted to hyperfeminine pornified caricatures. No, I just like women with healthy body image and natural bodies unaltered by unnecessary surgeries or injections, whether to make them look like pseudo-men or human sex dolls. Pants, skirts, short hair, long hair don't matter that much to me, really. You (not you, noni, royal you) personally may be a FTM chaser, but that doesn't mean all same-sex attracted women have to be.
That being said, I'm not at all into any trans people, not just because of their mental illnesses or bad gender politics or even their poor surgical and chemical attempts to imitate the bodies of their respective opposite sexes. Even if some trans people might consistently pass (YMMV on this one) AND not shill any kind of TRA nonsense (OK, I'm basically describing unicorns here), the idea of "chicks with dicks" or "men with pussies" in itself is just so inherently off-putting to me. I even hate fictional futa and cuntboy shit for this reason, even if the characters are "naturally like that" and technically not trans. Does that make me some sort of bigot? Maybe, but I don't care and nobody else should either.
True, it's actually bisexuals who can have genital preferences
depending on each individual, but for gay and straight people it's not a preference
, it's an absolute requirement.
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anons am i still considered bi if i am attracted to fictional men and male celebs but have zero interest in dating or having sex with a guy irl?
im interested in irl women but i don’t feel right calling myself a lesbian. idk
Are you attracted to the idea
of men, just not irl men physically? Do you like these men or because they are guys or because of their character? I think it's easy to have a crush on idealized versions of people but not necessarily want to be with them. I can't really answer that for you just don't put a label on yourself until whenever you find someone irl you'd want to date then you'll have your answer.
>>256112>Are you attracted to the idea of men
yes, i'd say so, and sometimes i meet a man who i think is cute but he is literally always married or has a gf. for some reason the guys who show interest in ME are never interesting to me physically, sexually etc>>256113
it feels right to call myself bi but god damn i always question it. but anyway, thanks both of you
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How do you nonnies feel about "pride" or feeling "prideful" about your own bisexuality?
Personally I don't parade it around, if I'm asked I'm okay sharing it but outside of that I don't really feel nor showcase my bisexuality. But I do like the idea of having little objects for my personal enjoyment that are bisexual themed like key-chains or badges.
I like objects with pride flags on them too! I've been thinking about making bi themed stuff.
I don't personally feel prideful of my sexuality, but I'm not ashamed of it either. I'm just comfortable with it. It's just part of who I am and it's honestly not something I think about often. I do think it's really awesome when people are clearly proud of their sexuality but to an extent it can get a little obnoxious and sometimes the people who are the loudest about their sexuality are overcompensating for something but hey, that's none of my business
>>258254>I've been thinking about making bi themed stuff.
that's so cute! If I ever make custom bi themed stuff I'll share a pic here.
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obscure but i am obsessed with anri from hello charlotte. she’s bi, she’s messy, and she‘s literally me. if i was a cringy 14 year old i would genuinely kin her.
no i would be more than happy. my problem is that why do i never feel that naturally to a woman i'm talking to but i do for men.
i also consume too much female focus porn i almost never watch porn with a male in it, i'm questioning wither if i only have a fetish for it. but i would totally fuck any of these women i think of them for days sometimes.
maybe you're watching too much female porn? now you're too focused on the porn stars than actual women.
that said, I personally have trouble finding women irl attractive sometimes because they put up the female socialization facade and I'm not into that in general. like they might look cute, but their personality is underdeveloped or inhibited so it's hard to tell if we really vibe.
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I finally feel like I'm in a place where I could start dating (for the first time) and I am not sure if I want to date men or women right now? How do you decide? I don't really have a preference of one sex over the other.
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How stupid is it to attempt to pursue a woman online? Say she doesn't have a following or anything, just a person who seems like she'd be compatible even as just a friend (which would be fine!).
Dating where I live is not ideal and finding anyone (even a man) who is cute to me and also has interests in common is rare. Not that I'm ~special~, it's just a small place.
I'll likely be earning the money in a year or so to help ship someone out to me, for reference. I know many LDRs remain unrealized because they can't meet in real life.
I specify women both because I do have a particular person in mind, and because I have no intention of pursuing men online. Seems like it would be a completely different scenario.
>>266326>bi>never find anyone attractive
No offense, but that's the opposite of bisexual if you earnestly have no sexual interest in them. Unless it's weird avoidant fear that makes you run away as soon as they like you (understandable and relatable) but you still get horny for them initially?
For many reasons anons see red at the term "asexual" but it may describe your situation better than bi, at least from what you wrote.
Or are you one of those 2D-only people? Or >>266328
kekEither way can't relate since I'm thirsty for everyone all the time which is a nightmare since I fear intimacy and am destined to a future of solitude.
From my understanding, a lot of women who are into men dont experience lust over their bodies but still like having sex with them. Maybe anon is the same but also with women? That might be why is so hard for some women to figure out their sexual orientation. (I also cant relate though, attracted to
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>as a bisexual woman in a liberal Western area who mostly (or even only) dates men
>I'm here to tell you fellow bisexuals that us bisexuals are not oppressed at all and we are not an authority on sexuality!!!
>my experiences are universal bisexual experiences!!
>if you claim otherwise you must be lying!!
>if you elaborate on your own experiences with homophobia you're just traumadumping and manipulative!!
>these studies that show that bisexuals experience real discrimination are obviously biased!!
>this is why nobody likes us bisexuals!!!
I find a lot of people almost
attractive, but life reasons made it not so.
Like seeing a pic of a guy from his youth, he was hot then but ugh now. A pretty moid with beautiful features, covered in a layer of grease and crust and horrible hygiene. A gorgeous girl who hides it all under makeup and has an annoying insecure personality.
I'm dealing with, most of the type of guys I find attractive (smedium ugly stocky manlets who are a bit goofy but intelligent) are in the protoincel pornsick demographic, which is automatically repulsive.
I like women with unique features, but it's getting harder to find someone who embraces hers. Also a lot of female socialization is annoying to deal with (the constant overguessing, doormatting)
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any other bi women's attraction to men purely contained to fujoism? i've always felt repulsed by hetero sex, especially when the focus is on the male (otome games and that), i feel like there is something inherently degrading about having sex with a male as a female. it seems like self-inserting with your yaoiboys and imagining threesomes is pretty common among fujos but i can't relate at all, that's disgusting. occasionally i think maybe i would fuck men if i was a man because we would be equals, even if receiving the tables could be turned any time, and it wouldn't be subversive/fetishy like femdom. but i still don't really find it an appealing idea, my fujo tendencies mostly feel like a mix of sadism and voyeurism, i really enjoy seeing men getting a taste of their own medicine so to speak. identified as a lesbian for a long time. what's wrong with me?
you're just a based fujo>it seems like self-inserting with your yaoiboys and imagining threesomes is pretty common among fujos
no it isn't kek those are a cringe minority of "fujo" yumejos that actual fujos also hate
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i thought so until i followed a ton of jp artists for this one vidya pairing i like. felt like every second artist drew the bottom as a woman (they call it "cuntboy" but it's honestly impossible to see it as anything other than simply a flat-chested woman), and one of the most popular artists even exclusively drew them straightified. the general impression i got is that most of them love one character and self-insert as the one getting dicked downed by them, really freaked me out and made me feel kinda lonely. might just be a jp thing where they're degens that are open to all kinds of shit and there's a mutual understanding that if you don't like something you just ignore it and go on your way.
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I feel like a tranny and it's fucking retarded. I seethe and cope (thankfully not dilate) when I see lesbian couples, I'm so fucking jealous and I don't even know why. Maybe it's just the fact that I will never have what they have, I'll never have my own uwu waifu uguu. I don't give a shit about other straight couples though. Idk what to hell do I do about this, it's absolutely braindead of me.
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Thanks for responding with your experience nonna. I got with him very quickly after my last relationship because I was so touch and love starved, and later realized what a fucking mistake I did. I've already accepted I can never love a man like I would a woman, and the initial sexual feelings will always disappear after a while for a man (they did not for my ex). But I have already put so much effort into this, this is my third long term relationship and he's not evil or anything so I try to just suck it up. I don't want to ruin another life because I'm indecisive, or take him away from my cats who love him. The way they missed my ex breaks my heart and I don't wanna make them go trough with it again. And it feels like an appropriate "punishment" for my actions.
As soon as I realized I was "unfortunately" with a man and couldn't stop fantasizing about and getting off to women, I broke it off. 3 months in, not years. Especially if he's an alleged okay dude, then even he deserves someone who can actually like him and isn't sick to her stomach whenever they kiss.
In anon's case I guess it's "self-harm" of sorts for whatever crime she imagines she committed. Instead of dragging some guy into that why not just improve as a person and progress yourself? Wtf. Did you rape or murder your ex girlfriend or something? I assume not. So get some fucking confidence and be merciful with this man by cutting him off. It sucks for both of you.
Men are easy, abundant, and most of them are low-quality. Women, on the other hand, are much hotter and nicer on average, but are overwhelmingly straight and in the rare case that they are bi/lesbian, won't give me the time of day. I straight up do not fit in with gay women here and they seem to avoid and/or ghost me, usually over a mismatch in personality or interests, but I suspect my appearance also does it. Despite being a bishit I'm pretty casually GNC because that's what's natural and comfortable for me, which isn't really represented in the weirdass performative gay culture in my city. I feel like to be accepted as a masculine woman around here either I have to cut my hair short again and drop my actual sport for lifting to become man-lite, or go full queerio and slap a gender identity and a cringey alt aesthetic on myself. I've always found women attractive and also always been rather masc, and yet I still feel like an impostor when I'm left on the outside.
Nona are you me?
I've come to accept my bisexuality thanks to lolcow, and I'd really like to date a woman, but the "queer" scene in my liberal country is shit. It's fucking cruel that the only place where I've found women like me is an imageboard where you're supposed to stay anonymous. I wish I had a farmer gf.
Well unfortunately I am also a fucking idiot and realized it quite early, but I was too afraid to say anything. Also, sunk cost fallancy having cut ties with my ex to continue being with him (me and my ex were on a "its complicated" break while I met him, and receiving any affection at all felt so good after my sex/affection-repulsed ex, that's why I chose him instead of trying to mend things with my ex). And we HAVE discussed the issue multiple times over the years, but I have no spine and he always talks me into staying. Plus the cats would lose their fave human, I can't do it again to them like I did with my ex.
Yes yes, I'm a mentally ill hysteric bitch, who here isn't
What? What do you think I posted? I understand you do not like me but that does not mean I am also every other anon you dislike?
Also I was joking with the mentally ill bit, since someone called me that previously
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I can't fathom how you're okay chaining this clueless dude to yourself just because you've dated him a while and your cats like him. They're cats, they will recover. Stop wasting everyone's time. You're a shit person for making him a punishment for your past actions, nobody decent wants to be someone else's jailer and you claim he's a decent person. He loves you, he will love another. Stop putting people into antagonistic positions just because your self-absorbed narrative requires you to be "punished". For real you're so retarded, people aren't extras in your play where your character has to go through hardship for the arc to work out. Actual retard main character ass.
My guy and gal types are actually very similar to each other and I wonder if anyone else here is like this. If you'd picture masculinity and femininity as a scale, my type would be pretty much close to the middle, so more feminine men and masculine women. No troons though, I'm not into someone full on impersonating the other sex and don't want to deal with gender delusion.
I seem to get crushes on bookish, awkward and spergy types, maybe a bit sleazy or trashy looking. If she/he is passionate about something strange like taxidermy or middle age poetry, even better. Guys like that tend to be shit though, and also usually not attracted to me, since with men I tend to be quite dominating, and therefore don't fit into their incel fantasy of a perfect waifu kek. With women it's more equal, and I don't have such a drive to dominate. I know I'm into shitty men, so I guess I have no other choice than to date women only. I'm basically creep4creep, as some anon put it in another thread.
For women>no fuckboy ass haircuts>funny>my height or taller>ambitious, calculating, has concrete goals she works on>is physically affectionate>likes gossiping>emotionally intelligent >not clingy, enjoys her alone time>has good friends
For guys>no fuckboy ass haircuts>my height or taller>ambitious, calculating, has concrete goals he works on>is physically affectionate>likes gossiping>emotionally intelligent >sensitive>vain>not clingy, enjoys his alone time>has good friends
Very similar, kek.
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I have an embarrassing thing for enbies and fakebois that might stem partly from jealousy as somebody who almost trooned. My last crush was a they/them who presented as more feminine than me but my most serious relationship was with a feminine (but not super girly) cis bi woman. I like bi moids as long as they're not pushovers or tryhard woke but more than anything I feel like at this point in my late 20s I want a partner I can be honest with whether it's about politics or just not feeling pressure to present a polished more feminine image of myself in order to appeal to them. Picrel is a look I find very cute, I'd love to be "andro4andro" with a woman one day.
Are you me?
I'm really inexperienced, which is why I'm also afraid that lesbians would see me as a bihet seeking for a thrill or someone to "teach" me before leaving for a man. On the other hand, saying I'm bi4bi would just reduce my minuscule dating pool (since I don't wanna date moids or gendercultists) to nothing and ensure that lesbians would just view me as a shithead or a trender.
I wasn't sure if the post you were replying to was bait but I agree with you. I don't think it's fair to say worrying about being left for a man is internalised biphobia when the majority of bi discussion outside of places like here and febfem circles revolves around how preferring men is very valid
and there are a million different women claiming their boyfriend or husband is their one man exception. In some places it feels like you're not even able to feel a little tired with it all because you'll be met with actual biphobia/homophobia and get called a dyke or a "pickme bisexual" by the same women. I'm not a febfem either and would definitely prefer to date another bi woman over a lesbian (my last ex was another bi woman and I feel I would have more in common with other bi women) but I don't want to be dishonest about it, we need to be kinder to ourselves.
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This will get me burned at the stake, but I'll ask anyway:
Has anyone tried non-monogamy? My desire to be with a woman again is getting really bad, and my moid suggested me dating women "on the side" (god that sounded awful lol). Not seeking for an unicorn for FFM threesome fantasies, some weird polyamory tranny polycule shit, but me seeing another bihettie woman in a relationship with a moid, without men involved. How badly would you judge someone like that on a dating app?
In my last relationship (with a man) I was starting to feel like I missed sex with women. It was occupying my mind all of a sudden. It had been years and years since I was last with a woman so I blamed it on that… it wasn't that. My relationship though I didn't want to admit it att.. was not fulfilling me sexually or even emotionally. In the end I didn't seek out a woman though he probably would've allowed it… but he did find a woman for himself. We ended things and I'm glad I stayed faithful rather than ending up being the one who stepped out, permission or not. I walked away with a clear conscience if nothing else.
Just my opinion, I think people who look for others and say it's because of their bisexuality are coping. Something is not fulfilling them at home. One the other side of things I've also spent time in a community before where this stuff went down alot.. a mixed 'kinky' community.. that only further cememnts my beliefs around that tbh. When I was very young I dipped my toes in being with women who were attached to men. I've never seen a healthy couple when it came to that. I would meet them for sex one time and by the next time we were due to meet they had broken up. That was the pattern I noticed and that sent me running. These relationships are already failing and no sane woman wants to step in and be the straw that broke the camels back.
Some people will be judgemental for sure, but who cares, they won't contact you anyway. I'm sure you'll find some interest. Still, this kind of thing will definitely end up with someone getting emotionally hurt, there are too many people involved, so question is, are you really ready for it? Even so called functioning polycules are constant management of uneven distribution of feelings, because it's impossible to have everyone feel exactly the same. It may sound tempting, and may be amazing in the frist weeks / months, but effectively, there will be pain and drama. Yes, you will have some of it even in monogamous relationships, but like this it will become amplified by how many people are involved. Just make sure you really think it through before you commit to the idea, and maybe a much better idea would be to leave your current partner to find a girlfriend.>>273402
Yeah, one anon's example is exactly how everyone is like, if you hate bi people just leave this thread.
Thank you for your input, I appreciate it nonna. You have a lot of great points. It's weird, in my last relationship with a woman I had no desire to have sex with men. He's just a good friend, and I don't want to lose him even though I am not happy. Having a "side girl" (ew) would just complicate shit more.>>273407
Thank you for your response too, good points as well. Yeah I don't think I'm ready for some Barcroft My Polyamorous Life shit kek.>>273408
I don't THINK he would get violent but he would definitely mope around as he is most likely using this as his "last straw".
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Not bi but I saw this and thought of you guys.
Don't someone will get emotionally hurt. >>274828
Why do you think the bi-cycle is fake? You'd think when a lot of people say they experience it then it might be a thing.
You're going in a similar trajectory to me even though our stories are a bit different. Turns out I'm a lesbian
but either way, find bi friends and lesbian friends. Talk to people in the community, things will make sense.
Fair enough, though who would report her for not wanting to date them? Prob lesbians. And I just wanted to reassure her that her choice is valid
and that lesbians would respect it. Sorry!
Anon I understand your worries but I think irl most wlw(hate the tiktok term but whatevs) women are bi so lesbians teaming to shame you isn't really gonna happen. Normal lesbians irl also aren't likely to hate bi women like the chronically online ones do.
Unrelated but I understand lesbians not wanting to date bi women as I also wouldn't date a lesbian simply because our issues and attractions are just not the same and it'd be an added struggle to an already complicated relationship.
Lmao if someone said that to me I'd laugh so hard. It's actually sad to have someone be so insecure that they think their partner wanting to fuck others is some weird gotcha, like if someone's gonna cheat or be interested in other people, it'll happen regardless of their sexuality. They could date a lesbian and still get cheated or have the lesbian fantasize about other women.
I personally don't feel comfortable with lesbian women the same way I don't feel comfortable with straight women and because most women are bi, I just don't feel the need to chat a lesbian up. We have vastly different struggles and it'd be hard for us to understand one another so although I'd befriend one, I really wouldn't want to date one. >>275829
You shouldn't read a thread if it makes you this upset. %90 bi women aren't even interested in lesbians romantically so it's not like you'd end up with one.
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>>275832>You shouldn't read a thread if it makes you this upset
Kek girl she is OBSESSED with us dirty bihetties. Time and time again she specifically seeks out and bumps this thread just to infight. Or "she", idk if it just a tranny or a moid seething.
How do you feel during the shifts and how does it work out? I'm curious, it sounds like a hard situation. I hope it gets better for you.
In my case I get attracted to whomever, if there's a guy I like then him and if there's an open woman interested then her. I don't think I've experienced cycles and that's why I was doubtful.
No. I like taking an assertive role in a relationship regardless.
My ideal is to be treated a bit like a gentle ""husband"" in the traditional sense. Not strictly, but I enjoy the idea of being the provider/support and a quiet presence. Like you know the Wife Guy meme? I feel the spirit of that. A bit socially dumb and shy compared to [her] wife, but gets things done and is so clearly devoted and in love.
Due to this and other general preferences, dating men was uncomfortable when I was still attempting it. Even the way a healthy man acts in a relationship is incompatible with me.
My best friend and I have recently discussed something similar. We are both bisexual, yet we have that want to have a family and give birth to our own children. The more i learn about adoption and fostering, the more i want to avoid it. At one point i thought, "Hey I could be a mother, maybe with another woman too!" This was when i had a fear of becoming pregnant and once the years passed i started slowly getting over that fear. I think having that boundary of ensuring I find the right man to eventually have children with definitely helped me be even more picky with the scrotes I've come across and not waste time. But i do get you, i have sexual attractions towards women, but now it's me knowing i couldn't be long term with her because i want to have a family that includes my own biological children.
It's difficult to describe, I don't think I could find my forever being another woman and I think a huge part of that connection I need in my life comes from my desire to have biological children.
Obviously it's up to you and I understand the het family dynamic may be part of the appeal but couldn't you use donor sperm? Either from a bank or from one of her family members?
I'm febfem and tokophobic plus repulsed by piv, but if my partner wished to be pregnant I always figured I could ask a cousin to donate so we could have (roughly) bio kids.
Sorry if this is just a 50/50 struggle I can't get. I don't mean any ill will!
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Long retarded vent incoming (posting it here instead of the lesbian general because I don't want to bother them about moid talk, but I'll move the post if it doesn't fit here). Basically I feel like a fraud because I call myself a lesbian mostly because I have no intentions of ever getting into a relationship with a man, but I feel like an impostor since I'm not a "gold star". To make a long story short, I realized I only feel romantic attraction towards women, but I didn't mind having sex with a guy as fwb. Me and this guy used to date through high school but we stopped because I realized that I wasn't actually in love with him and it was just some mental illness induced dependency mixed with a compulsion to be what my peers wanted from me. The natural love and attraction I had always felt for women was never there for men and I hated being "the girlfriend". Having a boyfriend felt less like a life partner and more like having a human pet you can have sex with if that makes sense lol. But after we became just friends again we've still had sex a couple times because we were just horny and already knew each other well but emotionally I felt nothing. So I guess I should call myself a bisexual homoromantic then? But I seriously just feel like a big idiot.
You should definitely not call yourself a lesbian imo. It just reinforces the image moids have that lesbians will jump on their dick because it's sooo awesome. Being bisexual is ok. You don't have to call yourself lesbian to seem more Valid
(tm). There are many ways to be bisexual, it's not always 50/50 attraction (rarely is), but if you are attracted to both sexes, that's what you are.
You're bi, anon. Best to claim it since there should be no shame.
I admit my bisexuality and am disgusted by the idea of having to touch or be touched sexually by a real life man. Bi takes many forms!
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I like the double crescent symbol because it's more subtle than a plain flag and it's more niche which is a better way to signal it imo. Worst case scenario you just out yourself as a febfem and tell moids to fuck off. There's apparently a febfem flag out there but it was probably made by a rando on tumblr and nobody knows about it.
Depends on if you're watching it FOR the women. I used to watch more het porn growing up (I've given up don't worry), but I was focused on the woman and would self-insert into the man. At the end of the day, I wanted to fuck a woman and make her orgasm.
Be honest with yourself. If your fantasy is that and not self-inserting into a woman being pleasured no matter the circumstance, congrats.
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>keep sperging about any piece of media where a woman dresses up as a man / male character is performed by a woman
>buy a men's suit and insist wearing it to events, thinking I look cool
>mom asks me whether I might be into girls
>"ofc not mom wtf are you talking about"
Anyway sucks being a tomboyish woman who's into tomboy types when the world around me is trooning.
Me too nona! I wear vintage "mens" clothes every day and it's impossible to find likeminded people. Everyone seems to think I'm some troon/enby/gendershit and so I only attract those types. Also, I hope you can find the courage to explore yourself more and find comfort in your sexuality. Denial is painful.>>285089
bi moids have always struck me as either hypersexual, gay in denial, some cluster B shit or all three.
Yeah, I remember one time when I talked to a girl from a hobby group and found out she doesn't buy the gender bullshit either. We ranted about it a bit and afterwards she told me>wow anon based on your appearance I thought you'd be a genderspecial too but it turns out you're a sane person
Also I searched up vidrel just to freshen some memories and now I'm amazed at my younger self for being so clueless kek. Like maybe there was a reason you were obsessed with Le nozze di Figaro and the character Cherubino specifically? No? I even discussed it with another girl I knew through a hobby and looking back I had a huge crush on her but didn't realize it at the time.
Any other nonnies frustrated with the online dating scene? I'm febfem and I'd to spend my life with a fellow neet gf more than anything, but I don't know where to find them!! I can't get access to HER or Tinder since I don't have a phone, and I've heard those apps don't have a good track record anyways (thanks to the troon and kweer infestation).
Does anyone have any advice on how to put yourself on the bi/lesbian dating scene without those apps? >>270823
I agree so much. I will never understand why OSA women still pursue relationships with men, particularly if they know how cruel men are to women. Regardless of your attraction to men, why would you willingly date a scrote, a member of a sex class notorious for raping and abusing women?
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Kek anon are you me? I'm having the exact same problem. I feel kinda nervous about bars because I'm not of the partying type and also very inexperienced. Also there are no lesbian bars here, only "queer" ones filled with either gay men or trannies. I know there are women like me out there who could be my type, but the problem is they're all unsocial neets (like me) and so I can never find them irl.
That's exactly my problem!! All of the gay bars are like 50-100 miles away in another state, and when I look them up, they're pretty much just for gay men. Also cute penguin pic!>>287120
Exactly why I quit dating apps! I'd rather be single for the rest of my life than date a she/they. There's something really repulsive about them irl that I can't put my finger on.
Bitter because we get the slutty, untrustworthy stereotype when arguably they (being men) are likelier to fit that. My lack of solidarity with them has to do with my growing misandric tendencies rather than their sexuality tbf. When female friends tell me they're bi too it's cool, but idk what to feel when male friends do.
I used to be friends with a bi guy, at the time he had a girlfriend but was secretly hanging out at gay parties hoping to suck dick. He would also thirst over male rappers in the group chat but only loves/wants to marry women. Looking back at that experience, that was pathetic of him and I'm glad no matter how much internalized homophobia I had I would never stoop that low (I doubt he's still in contact with that guy)
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How are fellow bi nonnies doing? I think I found a woman that is as autistic as me. Feels good man.
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Lucky you, I have no idea how I could meet other women. Some gay friends suggested we go together to a gay/lesbian club but I fear it'd be filled with troons and kweerios.
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This will make me sound like a total newbie to gay dating. In reality I'm definitely a newbie to all dating.
But how relevant is the masc/fem dichotomy? By which I mean, is it harder to date if you're somewhere in the middle? Perhaps I'm just getting specific content online for whatever reason, but it seems the butch-femme dynamic is huge with lesbians. Or butch4butch and femme4femme. Is that true for most gay and bi women?
I've stopped forcing myself to present any sort of way to appeal to men, which naturally lands me on neither side of the spectrum. I just dress like a grandmother or grandfather depending on the day and my demeanor/voice are decidedly a bit masculine, but I have recently felt some angst about that. Should I lean more into masculinity if I wish for a more dominant/traditionally masculine role in a relationship? Does this sort of thing matter less to bi women, also?
If I seem socially stunted, I'm sorry. I am. If it seems as if I'm making problems up for myself, I'm sorry. I am.
They tend to be TRA/MRAs at ‘best’. Very misogynistic. Maybe worse than straight men.
Like other nonas have said they are more likely to have STDs and be pornsick/into gross shit. Even more entitled to their disgusting kinks and/or multiple sex partners since they’re bi.
Thanks, anon. I guess you're right, I'm just afraid the way I am/what I want won't be communicated through how I look. I am reserved in regular settings, but enjoy taking the lead when I have feelings for someone. I'd just like to be seen as charming in a masculine way, and it tickles me when I can make a woman a bit flustered like that.
I also fear my sexuality is mismatched. Maybe I can't claim "stone" as a bisexual, but I have no intentions on being sexually touched either. For this reason (among others) I have and will never sleep with men.
But women are definitely less prone to associating traits with appearances than men, so I'll try to have less angst about it. Perhaps my perfect match is a masc bi pillow princess lmao.
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Bi-anons I cannot stand it anymore. I need a girlfriend. I need to eat pussy. I need to get a girlfriend and quit my job and live purely off of cuddling and sleeping in her arms and sex. This is corny as fuck and I'm joking about the quitting my job part but not the girlfriend part. Honestly typing this I feel close to fucking tears KEK I just want to meet a beautiful, funny, smart woman and fall in love and get married and adopt animals together. God I'm so fucking lonely. I keep thinking about eating pussy at work top kek. I'm so fucking awkward and weird irl and not to mention gender critical as fuck. I live in such a shitty neolib hub that it feels like any cool, weird woman is going by neopronouns and buys into the gender retardation. I'm honestly a fucking weirdo where I live for having shirt hair and STILL going by she/her. God it fucking hurts. Sorry for this long-ass rambling rant.
Anyway, I know I was just complaining about all the aidens and thembies but I'm still going to join dating apps, idc. I'm going insane. Same sex attracted nonnies who have met normal women (or hopefully their current gf…) please give me advice. What's the best dating app for finding regular same-sex attracted women? What kind of pictures should I put on my profile? I'm a turbo virgin that has never really gotten into dating apps. Fuck I want a girlfriend!!!! I'm close to trying out manifestation top fucking kek.
Relatable post. Constantly daydreaming about having a girlfriend and being unhinged weirdos together.>going to dates in weird places and laughing at inside jokes only the two of us can understand>watching movies or listening to angsty metal music, resting my head on her lap and wanting to stay there forever>kissing the back of her neck, feeling her heartbeat>growing old together, having stupid couple quirks
And the sex ofc, but I feel embarrassed dreaming about it bc I'm a mega virgin and a bit clueless about what it's actually gonna be like. Nonas I'm getting desperate enough that I'm considering going to a gay karaoke bar nearby to see if there are any actual women in there.>>291346
I am like this too. I am attracted to many male characters but not men irl.
When I try to entertain the idea of dating a man I just get disgusted. I especially can't stand how they smell.
>>293694>Late, but are you romantically attracted to real life men? Could you see yourself being in a relationship with an actual living, breathing man?
Not at all, I think being in a relationship with a man is too much of a hassle (STDs and pregnancy risks, domestic violence…), and the few real men I find attractive are celebrities (so unattainable) and even then if I had the possibility of dating their normie doppelganger I don't think I would. Maybe it's my way of coping by growing invisible and not attracting guys in my late teens/early twenties.>>293753>>293803
Why not though, if you check the husbando threads there are a lot of straight women who are also disgusted by real men and prefer to focus on fictional ones. Also I'm a yumejo at heart, the guys I'm thirsting on are unambiguously male and I greatly enjoy art and fics of husbandos engaging in PiV sex with the self insert girls, which I'm pretty certain no self-respecting lesbian would ever do.>comphet
Please, that's a meme propagated by self hating bi women.
Don't bother, anon. The politics around it and whether fiction = reality or not are endless, and it's easier to just be in community with other bi women who aren't as hung up on on your sexual purity but still understand attraction to other women. As >>294239
says, lesbian communities do not want women who feel that way around, so it would just be a misery for everyone.
Maybe you should worry more about your safety than them calling their cats furbabies.
nta they dont see female homosexuality seriously at all. this blurring of the lines between lesbians & ssa leaning bi helps no one. like this retard >>294281
exposing her inferiority complex by implying that lesbians are sexual purists bcs they don’t want women who fantasise about fucking a fictional moid in their communities. lesbianism isn’t ‘mostly attracted to females but does fantasise about sucking a fictional moids dick on the side’ bcs like u said that’s a manifestation of attraction to males. it’s exclusive attraction to females. not that hard to understand.
I too would like to know since I also struggle with this, even though I've had a (LDR) girlfriend before.
One thing I've noticed that does help a little is imagining romantic scenarios that are less likely to happen in public, so I'm not hung up on how others would react. With male crushes, I can easily daydream about him holding my hand at the museum or making out under the fireworks. With female crushes, the daydreams I do allow to occur are more along the lines of her sharing her earphones with me while we're listening to her favourite love songs alone at her house.
Are you the type to quickly pinpoint when you're having a crush, or do you tend to be in denial for a bit? This next tip probably works best if you're the latter. So sometimes I try to redirect my guilt on being attracted to a woman to 'denial' that I could possibly like her because of a superficial reason. (Ex. "Imagine having a crush on someone who likes BTS, that's lame") I'm aware this doesn't solve the underlying issue, but the idea is to remember that you're crushing on a person that happens to be female rather than feeling guilty because you're attracted to a woman as a woman.