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No. 394660

Discuss family planning, birth, pregnancy, conception, fertility, and any other baby-related topic in this thread.
Refrain from posting if you dislike children or are childfree.
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No. 394673

Is baby fever real? I would probably never have kids because I don't think I'm the right person to have them (so much generational trauma and issues of my own) but I wonder if any nonna here has felt baby fever before and what did you exactly feel (I cry)

No. 394703

>>394673
It’s an ache, a longing, and a deep sadness. A bitterness, perhaps, even.

No. 394715

Does anyone here have any experience with getting an early bloodtest to determine the foetus' sex?
I have one daughter now and would love to have more but the chances of having a son make me not want to risk it. So the earlier I would know in a pregnancy the more time I would have to make up my mind whether I would want to go through with it or abort. There's no way a OBGYN or midwife here would offer such a test though so I would have to find a commercial provider. Something like SneakPeek, although I don't think they ship to Europe
Sorry I'm rambling a bit, I'm stressing the fuck out because my period is becoming more irregular over the years and I feel like my time is running out

>>394703
This is a good way to decribe it anon. Baby fever is not something you have, but rather a feeling of wanting

No. 394731

>>394715
I've gotten 2 and both were accurate. Not sure what European laws are but both were done along with genetic testing in the first trimester. Personally I wouldn't get it done unless you know it's being sent to a quality lab

No. 394743

>>394715
Do IVF in a country that's not cucked to guarantee a female baby.

No. 394755

>>394743
just keep getting pregnant than abort potential male fetuses, IVF preys on women and the hormonal cycles can mess you up

No. 394775

>>394755
But how can you allow your body to abort that much? Isn't that dangerous?

No. 394781

I keep having these depressing dreams that I’m pregnant, raising my baby daughter, I watch her grow up, only to wake up and realize she never existed. I end up in tears clutching my pillow because I want nothing more than that baby to be real. Is something wrong with me?

No. 394782

>>394755
Im not even trying to be rude, but "just keep getting abortions" is pretty terrible advice. Abortions are not always an easy procedure to get. They can be physically taxing, not to mention the emotional toll it can take on a woman. Unironically this is probably more viable/less harmful advice >>>/ot/846472

No. 394783

>>394782
>Not illegal. You have to eat a vegan low calories diet trying to conceive because male babies are weak as shit and get aborted if they don't have enough food. Sperm that makes male babies also dies easier in an acidic environment, so eat lots of citrus. Try to conceive 3 days before your ovulation because sperm that makes girls lives longer than sperm that makes boys. At the 2 month mark you can do a blood test to see the sex of the kid and abort if it's xy. If it's xx then stop the low cal vegan diet and eat normally. There's also ivf which is more expensive but 99.9% accurate.

Had to repost so others can see without clicking

No. 394784

>>394783
Sorry, I forgot posts from other boards don't show when you scroll over them

No. 394793

>>394715
Since we are making wild suggestions, I suggest you have the father cum in a cup then spin the cup around like a centrifuge (gently if possible), take an oral syringe and collect the sperm at the bottom of the cup. X sperm cells are heavier and would ostensibly be at the bottom of the cup and thus you'd have a syringe full of X sperm cells.

But to be serious, please don't restrict nutrients deliberately for 2 months. I hate that idea for you and the fetus/baby.

No. 394795

>>394781
I think a lot of women have baby dreams, I've definitely had some where I wake up disappointed that my children aren't real. If it's really stressing you out or happening a lot though there might be a reason?

No. 394836

>>394781
>>394795
Kek this is so fucking hilarious to me because I keep having baby dreams too, but mine are all nightmares of bottomless horror. For example, I had one where I had a son and had to raise him in a war zone, then when he was like 16 he was crushed by falling rubble right in front of me, and I wasn’t sad at all, instead I was instantly so incredibly happy to be free again. I always wake up from baby dreams in a panic, followed by relief when I realize it was just a dream and I have no children. Clearly we are different animals— people who try to generalize women are retarded

No. 394858

I cant wait to be a mom, I have dreams of having a baby, just lying in bed or holding my baby, taking my toddler on hikes, teaching my kid how to play their first guitar chords, but I feel a little hopeless about it. I really really really want to so bad but I don’t want to have children if I’m not married, I feel like that would be the hard part for me. But I’m not going to let my negative self doubt get in my way, hopefully one day I’ll find a good man and we’ll get married and have children. Hopefully one day!!!

No. 394866

>>394755
>>394715 here. Yeah but the point is in my country you normally only find out the sex at the 20 weeks ultrasound. Maybe a few weeks earlier if you find a willing midwife. I might hate having a boy, but not to the point that I would risk my health having multiple abortions that far into the pregancy. Hence the reason asking about early bloodtests

No. 394885

>>394784
It's ok, I only did it out of convenience + spread of information

No. 394901

How do you survive the constant toddler tantrums? I feel like my toddler screams nonstop all day long unless she is eating or sleeping. She demands my attention 24/7 and doesn't want to play with any of her toys, she just wants to do things she can't do like play in the toilet, eat firstfuls of mud outside or climb onto dangerous high places. I am so exhausted.

No. 394961

>>394901
is she sleeping/napping correctly? a lot of tantrums can be chalked up to simply needing a nap

No. 395010

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how do you manage? I feel like a hot mess and forget appointments and such (nothing too important ofc, I just feel bad) what is a "checklist" of everything you need to do as a parent

No. 395037

Do any of you ever think about the possibility what if you were just being extremely horny at the thought of getting impregnated by your Nigel now you have to devote the rest of your life to a whole ass human being for minimum like 2 decades? Or what if that maybe is what most of humanity went through?

No. 395039

>>395010
Nonna its alright just calm down. You don't need to be doing all of that and pressuring yourself either. Honestly at least I just focus on hanging out with and making sure the baby is fine. That's already more than enough work! Yes sometimes the dishes stay overnight in the sink and get washed during the next naptime, yes sometimes there's toys all around and at the end of the day you're too exhausted to do anything about that and there's absolutely no reason to feel less accomplished. The baby for sure won't mind. Honestly imo the mega organized clean girl aesthetic açai bowl green smoothie era of life is when you're not currently facing the biggest challenge life can give you, which is raising a little human. Nonna its okay just relax dont make yourself crazy.

The thing about appointments, I use telegram as a chat messenger and there you can make a channel for yourself + your husband and schedule messages. So I write every appointment in there and then schedule a message the day before/the morning of the day to repeat the appointment text again so I get a notification.

No. 395079

>>395037
I am sure maaaany women have had children due to extreme horniness throughout history. Biological imperative.
I wanted children in my life - specifically, I wanted children that were older than 4 and not a baby or toddler. So I didn't think it through fully and having a baby is hard but not the hardest thing I've done.
I will say that pregnancy was the least sexy experience of my life and, because we planned our baby, copulative sex was no where near as much "fun" as the spontaneous sex I've had. Maybe if our baby had been unplanned I'd think differently about this entirely.

No. 395080

>>395010
Is your husband or partner helping you with childcare? I get everything done by eating simple meals, and asking my husband to help with laundry and cleaning (he does) i only have one kid, but I don't keep a checklist. I do agree with this list's idea of not having a phone around at specific times - but I have a phone addiction and need that sort of rule.
As for appointments, I have a google calendar widget on my phone and I add the appointment to my calendar as soon as the appointment is made (at the doctor's office or whilst still on the phone). You can add attendees to the event too, if someone else needs to remember. I like the other nonna's idea about the telegram channel

No. 395081

Why are standards for mothers so extreme nowadays? And it's never for the better either, first you have the extremely crunchy people foaming at the mouth quite literally claiming feeding a child anything other than breast milk until they're 2 will kill them or false medical advices that somehow get tossed around as real without anyone questioning it, the worst one IMO is that the huge hate boner for single moms have caused women to be extremely co-dependent on their husbands to the point where a lot of moms are afraid of even going in public without their husband due to the fact even being seen without a man is enough for a lot of people to assume you're single and hate you because of it, you're expected to mindlessly listen to every single piece of deranged judgement you read online unless it's not right! Then it's why are you trusting stuff online over yourself but these same people will be ready to execute you for NOT listening to others. You can't have a social life, if you go out a single time without your children you're a bad mom but also how dare you make your personality about being a mom and women suck for losing themselves to motherhood. Even just asking for a break or help from others is enough to have people treat you like you're neglectful or too stupid to take care of kids you chose to have even though this has never ever been the case at any point in history. You need to work but also not really, stay in shape but don't neglect your children to take a break and workout, always have energy, always be perfect, etc.

It's not hard to see why infanticide rates have gone up rapidly. Of course when you make new and scared mothers feel like they will never be enough during one of the most dangerous mental times for them you're gonna get exactly that

No. 395219

Did you guys circumcise your son or not? Im having a son and wondering this myself. My husband also has a botched circumcision + I'm scared it will make him fussier as a baby

No. 395231

>>395219
Why the fuck would you? Imo it's literally unthinkable It's such a barbaric practice which originates from an ancient desert religion that used it to mark their slaves.(No bs, look it up) Would you cut parts of your daughters clitoris off for no reason as well? And the muh hygienic meme is ridiculous as well like yeah if you cut your ears off you wouldn't have to clean them either.

No. 395233

>>395219
Literally why would you even consider it. I thought everyone agreed now that it’s basically child abuse? I don’t have boys but if I did I would never have. my mom said my brother was less fussy because she didn’t have his done

No. 395241

>>395233
Saying the baby could be "fussy" already a lowkey abusive and deranged way to play this down. Like the baby is so dramatic?? that along with the basically trauma of being born and having to be adjusted to the world itself he also got part of his anatomy removed in an area with a A LOT of nerve endings and is in constant pain that doesn't get any relief until his tiny body can grow scar tissue over it.

No. 395268

>>395231
You get so much mixed information on both sides tbh. I've seen people who are pro circumcision swear not circumcising your baby will kill him and that it's basically child abuse, I've always been anti circumcision but I'm so scared something will go wrong

No. 395321

>>395268
You're fucking retarded and I hope your scrotlet will get a necrotic peen and needs to be trooned out as a result.(infight bait/a-logging)

No. 395330

Is this the right thread for this idk, but this is such a strange thing for me cause I’ve never wanted kids before and never really imagined myself one day being a mother and figured it’s just a future problem for me to figure out but ever since I started dating my boyfriend and seeing pictures of him when he was a kid, he was just so cute and I feel like we’d make the most adorable mixture ever and have really cute kids. But not yet though cause I’m still way too young to have kids imo and I want to wait until im at least in my late 20s but this is insane to me bc I’ve never felt like ‘motherly’ urged or anything in my life, like yeah kids are cute and stuff but I don’t think I ever wanted one. And now the only reason I want one is cause I saw pictures of my boyfriend when he was a child and he was the cutest thing in the whole world, so I think we can make a really cute kid too. So this is for purely selfish reasons. But that’s why I think if I somehow got pregnant maybe I wouldn’t get an abortion just cause I would want to see how cute our kid would be our little baby mixture!!!! It would have huge brown eyes cause me and him both had really big cute brown eyes when we were kids, I hope it’d have his curly hair and his generally adorable babyish face too.

No. 395339

>>395268
We are born as we should be, americans are so weird. Bc a guy who made cereal told you to chop the tip of a babys penis off you all think its normal

No. 395344

>>395268
If he gets phimosis or whatever he can always get circumcised later to fix it. There's really no downside to not getting it done at birth.

No. 395415

>>395268
"Something going wrong" for an uncircumcised penis is pretty rare and like the other anon said, your son could get it corrected when they're at least old enough to consent to the procedure. I imagine any potential issues would arise around puberty and treatment could involve several options beyond removing the entire foreskin - like streching with numbing cream added or something.

No. 395418

>>395233
>I thought everyone agreed now that it’s basically child abuse?
On other pregnancy and new mom forums, there are alot of women who still do. Like babycenter or what to expect, where the normies are. I think chronically online women (I don't mean that as an insult. I am one) tend to not circumcise their sons.

No. 395502

>>395418
To be fair, we also get all of our information and even majority of our education is exclusively online now. That being said, because of this internet moderators need to be more careful with fear mongering/false information as that's how most people get their research but you also can't necessarily blame new moms for asking questions and curiosity before making a decision. Truth is most of you are just as credible as women are mommy forums swearing babies need to be circumcised for their health, calling someone abusive for asking questions about common birth decisions sounds pretty unhinged imo but you also can't necessarily treat women like they're villains for not immediately knowing the "right" choices over things that have such debated choices

No. 395520

>>395219
I can't think of any reason to circumcise a child.. most of the world doesn't do it and they don't have an epidemic of penis gangrene or whatever else, right? I think it's better to let the kid decide what he wants to do with his penis when he's older.

No. 395571

>>395219
No. Genital mutilation is wrong. Simple as.

No. 395695

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Not a mom yet and won't be anytime soon but want to be. How do parents now cope with climate change and how quickly the earth is changing for the worse? Random but it's something I always think about. I would feel so guilty if I have kids and in a few decades the earth is barely habitable and they have to eat roaches cause those are the only thing that manged to survive. Or is it just knowing that there's always something terrible happening and that shouldn't necessarily stop you from having children because chances are everything will be ok?

No. 395741

I am so sad because my toddler HATES being read to. She never liked it. I have been reading to her since she was in my belly still, as an infant she was Uninterested, it didn't calm her down and she didn't look at the pages. When she got old enough to flip the pages it became all she wants to do. She doesn't even look at the pictures she just wants to flip the pages and when I try to read she gets frustrated and slams the book shut. Now that she's a toddler and can walk she won't even sit with me to read, when I pick up a book to just read while she plays she comes over and slams it shut. I have tried all kinds of interactive books but she will have none of it.

It makes me sad because everyone always says reading to your kids is so important and she doesn't talk yet so I want to help her learn. My parents read to me so much but recently I have just given up because it feels like I am just torturing both of us. Maybe it will change when she gets older?

No. 395747

>>395695
We are coming out of an ice age, humans affect on the environment hasn't actually done as much damage as its being made out to. The world isn't going to end from climate issues in a few decades. I understand your worry but not having children because of "what ifs" is very silly to me, life finds a way, humans are resilient.

No. 395748

>>395695
Well for starters don't be a dumbass and move to an area that will be heavily targeted by global warming

No. 395755

>>395741
Your toddler sounds lowQ. Some kids are just born dumb and there is no helping it.(infighting)

No. 395760

>>395571
>>395520
>>395268
>>395231
There's also a pretty decent chance the circumcision hurts hetero women in the long run too.
Making genitals less sensitive sure sounds like a great way to push someone towards more extreme ways of getting their rocks off.

No. 395761

>>395741
Just sing a song with her or simply talk to her in full sentences and it will be beneficial for her development, it's not necessarily reading a book that is important for her language and communication skills. Also in case you didn't ever hear about Sold A Story and you think reading to her will make her more literate or will make it easier for her to learn to read, it doesn't really do that the way people say it will (in a roundabout way it would help build her vocabulary to expose her to more words but just talking also does that.)

No. 395766

>>395755
>>395741
Reminder most anons are not trained properly in child development and take all medical advice given on here with a grain of salt. Perhaps it's the way you're reading it that comes off as boring?

No. 395767

>>395760
I can believe this, I see so many stories of western women who have to jump through hoops to get their partners rocks off, even in European countries where moids still watch porn, you don't have an influx of young men unable to fuck their own partner

No. 395772

>>395268
literally teach him to slide and move the skin once he's old enough to shower by himself. my brother got phimosis because nobody ever told him he should do it and dirt grew under it so it became infected. that's literally all the maintenance a foreskin need.

No. 395781

>>395741
I mean the flipping pages thing is normal tbh, it's novelty they seek. What if you try to make it a bit more exciting instead of just reading the text thats there just point at stuff and name it, what colour it is etc and the ASK and let them time to reply

No. 395784

This thread is honestly so hostile and awful I don't think I will be posting again.

No. 395786

>>395784
This is probably the calmest of threads compared to others kek. Unpopular opinions have multi daily infights and the photoshoppers thread is filled with people calling anons fat trannies

No. 395789

>>395502
>calling someone abusive for asking questions about common birth decisions sounds pretty unhinged imo
Anon read the comment chain more closesly. No one said she was abusive for asking abiut circumcision. They called her retarded though and said the practice is abusive. Reading comprehension is important but is a skill that can be learned

No. 395792

>>395784
What part is hostile and awful?

No. 395829

>>395741
How old is she? Some kids may not just like reading, but you might be able to get the same effects with face to face interactions and things like singing together. But if she reached toddler age without talking you should talk to a doctor about it, she might have a speech delay.

No. 395893

>>395792
nothing, anon probably just said something stupid and got called out. Also who even posts that they're no longer going to post on an anonymous imageboard in a certain thread? kek. Even more delusional version of "excuse me I'm ignoring you"

No. 395915

>>395792
Probably things like this? >>395755 In the last thread someone was wishing miscarriages on anons too. There are either some childfree retards hate reading these or moids

No. 395950

>>395915
it's rough but certainly not even compared to the unhinged shit that happens in the other threads. Other threads will straight up call women's attention whores and traitors for having miscarriages. At least it seems like bait here is banned/ called out very quickly

No. 395954

I diyd my maternity photos today, I think the male baby hormones in me has made me less neurotic and self concious because I'm pretty happy with them.
I couldn't imagine paying someone to do it though, while taking the photos I felt super awkward. I had some stomach pain while sleeping but he's kicking around today so all must be well. It's hard to know what's normal and what's not.

No. 395973

>>395954
Aw congrats Nonna. It can be a bit of a splurge but I regret having almost no photos of me pregnant esp nice ones. I'm sure you will cherish them!

No. 396698

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It's been hard getting baby to sleep and husband wants to do CIO. I have had luck getting him to sleep quietly and within 30 min by cosleeping or laying next to him before he falls asleep and then transferring him to his bed (pretend cosleeping, if you will). We've been using the snoo but he is about to grow out of it. I want to delay or avoid CIO if possible and want to pursue cosleeping/pretend cosleeping.

What sort of crib should I get for my baby that will let me do this cosleeping/pretend cosleeping thing with him for as long as possible? I see cribs like pic related but I only want to get 1 crib until he ages out to a real bed. I'm willing to do just a matress on the floor or anything bootleg/not esthetic

My priorities are
>pretend cosleeping over actual cosleeping, or the ability to cosleep for naps but not at night
>not transferring baby to his bed (risks waking him)
>needs to be something not too inconvenient or else husband might not do it
>baby ideally sleeps in room separate from adults so one adult can have deep sleep while other feeds baby (low priority)

No. 396703

>>396698
Cry it out is abuse. Like you're just causing adrenaline and cortisol spikes in the baby which is detrimental long term for their health, and disrupts ability to sleep even further until they become so exhausted that they give up knowing that no one is coming and dissociate until they basically pass out. Literally abusive shit and just further proof that moid takes have NO business in anything related to childcare. Do not give in to this absolute garbage. How old is your baby also? I have been cosleeping and then changed to putting simply the baby mattress surrounded by pillows on the floor next to our bed. So when my daughter wakes at night, I lay with her to breastfeed and then slide away once she's asleep. No transfer and nothing and safe solo sleep.

No. 396706

>>396698
From my experience it's all about switching up different methods of sleep until you find something that works, I wouldn't recommend co sleeping though. For a short while the only place I could get my baby to sleep is the swing with a swaddle and lullaby music. Definitely experiment with different sounds, pacis, swaddling/sleep sacks, etc

No. 396710

>>396703
Yeah I know CIO is shit

With a mattress on the floor, I'd have to prevent baby from rolling off? Other than hitting his head (say i have soft carpet or something) is there a risk from baby rolling off and sleeping on carpet? When does suffocation risk from mattress/carpet disappear (google seems to suggest either after 6 months or 12 months)?

>>396706
Do you recommend against cosleeping because any reason other than suffocation? I favor pretend cosleeping (I'm next to him but get up after he falls asleep) for that reason.
We have been trying different stuff but I agree we should try to be more flexible about it. Bouncing him in a carrier works but it takes longer than me laying next to him and he cries sometimes with the carrier. I don't have a swing yet but I feel like the swing would end up being similar the snoo.

No. 396755

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Protip for new moms: the kids preferred Mickey Mouse high contrast collection has some of the highest quality newborn toys I have been able to find. I am disappointed I didn't find out about it until my kid was past the colorblind stage and hope this post will save other women this grief.

Pic related can be used as high contrast cards when the baby is small and a tissue box emptying game when she is older. They also have high contrast books that can be used as stuffed animals once the baby is bigger and a really nice tummy time mirror/car mirror with high contrast dangling toys.

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>>395741
Have you tried interactive books like this one? What if you make wacky faces and sounds while reading? My baby thinks normal books are lame but books that make mommy act like a clown are fun.

No. 396891

>>396710
A lot of swings move faster and the position is more comfortable for some babies, even just switching sleeping space can be beneficial like switching to the crib or pack and play. Co sleeping can intensify PPD and make sleep schedules even harder

No. 396907

>>396891
I found cosleeping absolutely helped with sleeping. Because I just fed the baby while laying on the side and rolling up my top and positioning comes so easily after a while that I managed to do it with barely waking up and falling asleep while feeding as well. Literally a lifesaver in the newborn phase. And what do you mean it makes PPD worse? You would feel miserable being closer to the baby? Weird af arguments.

No. 396918

hi anons, i'm childfree but not hateful of parents or anything. i'm 30 and have never, ever felt like i wanted to have a baby. did you guys feel like you wanted kids from a young age or did it come in time? did you want a baby even without having a partner to help raise it? i have absolutely zero "baby fever" feelings so i'm just curious how it feels(The OP literally states to refrain from posting if you are childfree)

No. 396923

I am keeping the gender a surprise until birth. I had the anatomy scan at my last appointment, going forward do I need to begin each session by telling the midwife to not mention baby's sex? I don't want to be annoying but I don't want this ruined for me either.

No. 397075

>>396907
>what do you mean it makes PPD worse? You would feel miserable being closer to the baby? Weird af arguments.
for me I took care of baby around the clock and felt suffocated if I wasn't able to get a minute alone, literally no breaks, I couldn't get a single minute to myself at times and started feeling resentful. You shouldn't shame mothers for choosing methods that help their mental health ESPECIALLY during a time when we're having a huge spike in infanticides. Women need to know options that prevent infantcide/postpartum suicide

No. 397254

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Am I the only one who feels like she should alter her wardrobe for her baby? I saw a fugly rainbow dress at the store the other day and I kind of regret not getting it because my baby likes rainbows. I'm thinking I should probably start looking for cute running shoes too so I can follow her efficiently when she starts being mobile.

No. 397256

Protip: if your baby is over six months old, you can share your mother's day cake with them. If they can't handle the cake part of the cake yet you can just let them lick frosting. It's really cute to watch.

>>396923
Yeah you should probably tell the midwife every time just to be safe. Sometimes they are so busy they forget to ask.

>>396918
I knew I wanted kids since I was a kid myself, but it was more about not wanting to miss out on an experience and not wanting to be alone at 80 years old than about liking kids. I hated kids, actually. But now that I'm a mother I love mine very much.

>>397075
For me it made PPD better because it allowed me to get more sleep. My baby often only sleeps in one hour chunks unless she is on a human.

No. 397281

Anons who have kids old enough to give gifts, what did you get for Mother’s Day? My daughter tried to pick flowers for me, but she’s 3 and not really aware of what flowers are, so she just handed me a bunch of weeds. I have them in a glass on my table.

No. 397286

>>397254
That's so cute nonna do it

No. 397291

>>397254
You can wear what you want after having kids, just because you're a mom doesn't mean you're confined to beige tents and workout clothes

No. 397294

>>397254
That's actually really cute kek

No. 397377

husband and I have an almost 2 year old, he didn't make me a mother's day card together with her, I know she can't do much except scribble with crayons but I made him a wonderful father's day card last father's day with our handprints and I even wrote a poem for him from me and her. I am so sad that he made me nothing, am I wrong to expect this? I just wanted to read some nice words of appreciation and what a good mom I am with some crayon scribbles… I am crying over this

No. 397413

>>397407
nta but I married a chad and got an expensive spa day, tons of books and a sewing machine I wanted for mothers day kek. It's typically the uggos not doing shit

No. 397442

ah yeah the usual levels of empathy in this thread

No. 397497

>>396891
I get what you mean about potential to make ppd worse - it's a delicate thing and all women have different histories/biology that make their risk and symptom intensity different so some women are sensitive to things others aren't.
We're about to move but I'll definitely look into swings to buy after if baby is small enough for them still.

No. 397499

>>397281
That is so cute.
>>397377
Sorry nonna that would suck. you should talk to him about it - expect the possibility that he'll get defensive and feel criticized but if it's important to you it's worth it. You don't want this feeling to get dragged out through the years

No. 397535

>>397377
Your husband is a pathetic man.

No. 397537

>>397377
I'm sorry, nonna. Men are really the worst at giving gifts and being romantic when it matters. I'm sure you're a great mom and your daughter is lucky to have you.

No. 397547

>>397499
I tried to talk to him and he just got mad saying he had no time because I am always around (well fuck I would love to take an hour or two off to sit by myself while he does crafts with her) and then just said "I guess I am just the worst" usual moid deflection and inability to apologize and accept responsibility. I think he really just doesn't care.

No. 397575

>>397377
Don't make him anything for his birthday or any Father's Days until he gets his shit together, be just as DARVO as he is. You deserve better, you really do.

No. 397598

>>397547
If he doesn’t care there’s no fixing it imo, throw the whole man out as they say. You gave him a child and are raising it for him and he takes it all for granted.

No. 397659

>>397547
>"I guess I am just the worst" usual moid deflection and inability to apologize and accept responsibility. I think he really just doesn't care.
Not suprised at all.
I got my husband to snap out of this pattern of behavior by calling him out whenever he'd use logical fallacies (had to look them up first/memorize the names, what the signs are, why they're shit) and then shame him for it.

My husband sees himself as ~smart~ so I knew that making it clear that
>I'm trying to solve a problem I'm having and instead of collaborating to find the solution /help me find some objective truth that we can both agree on, he is derailing the conversation and keeping us stagnant
>I see him as weak-minded when this happens

would motivate him. Idk if your husband would respond the same way but it's worked for me (this one thing he still disappoints me in other ways). I could see it making things worse if your husband has some other issues

No. 397673

>>397377
Can you tell someone else to talk to him about it? Sometimes shame works better. If you tell him you’re sad about it he could think of it as a you problem, but if someone else tells him he’s a failure for not doing it he might understand it’s a him problem.
Unless you wanna just tell him directly he’s supposed to do that, that’s fine too.

No. 397835

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Americans will have meltdowns about how you need to be rear facing until your kid is 4-6 on the dot and if the buckle is even slightly below their nipple line they'll literally die… Just to throw their kids on a seatbeltless school bus that throws around little kids kek

No. 397853

>>397835
>seatbeltless school bus
? most american school buses have seat belts

No. 397907

>>397853
I have not once rode a school bus with seatbelts. Once I fell off the seat into the isle because of a crazy turn kek

No. 397991

>>397853
What's with anons who clearly aren't amerifags trying to comment on what happens in America? Only 8 states require seatbelts and that's only been a thing since 2019, the states that do have those need to go through loads of approval to install those anyway. Majority of American school buses don't have seatbelts

No. 398008

>>397659
nta but the best way to get this to work is to quite literally start pulling away. Majority of moids don't give a flying fuck about how they treat you unless they actually realize you have one foot in the door one foot out the door. The whole "sorry I'm not prince charming" type deal almost sounds like a weird sick inside joke about you and how much you're willing to deal with and not do anything about it

No. 398091

>>397991
>who clearly aren't amerifags
I'm American and all the school buses in my area have them so it's probably a location thing.

No. 398099


No. 398100

Postpartum rage is kicking my ass right now. I love my baby, I really do, but sometimes I get so frustrated that I see red, and I have to step away to cool down. I had a breakdown today because she just kept spitting up on every onesie I put her in, until there were literally none left. I couldn’t even cry, because my crying makes her cry, so I have to do it silently. I wish people talked about these parts of motherhood too. It sucks, I’m tired, I’m sleep deprived. I am never gonna hurt my baby, but I no longer look at those infanticide cases from a mother with postpartum mental illness with disgust anymore. If I didn’t have support, I could be a monster too. It’s so bad. I’m afraid that one day, I’ll be alone and I’ll do something stupid in this rage. I wish I could be the patient mother she deserves.

No. 398110

>>398091
doubt, I live in one of the only states that supposedly made them a thing and even school buses here don't have them

No. 398119

>>398100
Deep breath anon, you’re doing a wonderful job. It won’t always be like this, this is an incredibly big adjustment and it’s beyond understandable to feel angry etc. Especially when sleep deprived.

Be patient with yourself, you’re doing great

No. 398120

>>398100
If you feel like you have the capacity to hurt your child, then you need to get help.

No. 398128

>>398110
I can't take a photo of it since I haven't been to school in years so idk how to prove it kek. I didn't know it was that rare here…like even the teachers would occasionally go down the bus aisle to make sure everyone was buckled.

No. 398148

I've been to every midwife at the center I chose and to be honest I feel really safe with all of them and enjoy the qualities of each and can't pick which one I'd like to see for the rest of the pregnancy. Is it fine if I just keep choosing whoever has availability on the dates, or is that weird? Should I be choosing one for the long haul of these appointments?

No. 398162

>>398128
If you know it's not usual why would you try to put your own input? Makes no sense

No. 398168

>>398148
Interview heavily about how they are with scheduling anon. My first midwife put me on an awful feeding schedule that damn near drove me insane and turned out to not even be necessary (wanted me to pump after every single feed despite baby being EBF, almost called CPS claiming my milk supply would be dropping and I'd be starving my child despite the fact I had an oversupply). Not the first time I've heard of midwives pushing "pump after every feed from day one".

Also pain management - make sure you get pain management and midwives aren't going to fight against opioids if you need it, make sure they realize the importance of proper post partum care and sleep, etc. all of this can make or break your experience

No. 398214

>>398100
Every time I get annoyed with my baby it has been because I have set expectations that aren't realistic. Working on accepting substandard-to-you conditions might help you and it isn't forever. Baby can wear spit-upy outfits, for instance, or maybe a drool bib would help buffer some of the mess?
Also saying outloud "oh you're having a hard time right now, aren't you" over and over when my baby is fussy helps remind me that my baby is having a hard time and needs my help, and is not giving me a hard time.
If you need to walk away from baby and let her cry or sit in spit up for 5 minutes, it is better than getting mad.
I am sure you know but it's really important that you dig deep and try to find a solution that doesn't involve you getting mad or harming baby. Do anything and everything to not let the annoyance turn to anger and spiral. Wear earplugs, listen to goofy music, let her stay dirty and call her stinky butt until you calm down, whatever it takes to diffuse the tension.

No. 398489

I really want to have my first baby but just general hygiene chores, the 2 hours in the gym and general house cleaning chores completely exhaust me and all I want to do is lie down the rest of my time. I'm worried that I won't be able to cope with how much attention the baby will need.

No. 398510

>>398489
This 100% sounds like me before I started taking methylcobalamin (b12) and iron. It isn't normal to be exhausted like that. Have you ever gotten a blood draw to check for deficiencies?
The acceptable ranges for ferritin are misleading. "Normal" for women is 13 to 150 ng/mL but anything less than 30 ng/mL is considered iron deficiency without anemia. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8002799/

The lack of sleep is exhausting but I am not overhwlemed because my husband helps me. The most important decision you will make in your life is selecting the man to have kids with. Pick someone who will help you with chores and the baby and who is mentally/emotional mature. Your experience will be alot better and you won't be crazy tired.

No. 398707

Why did I have to be a mother in the most anti-mom place and time? All I ever wanted was to be a mother now it just feels like the world hates me for it. In my next life I hope to be something nice like a bird mom so I can be a mother without feeling like everyone hates me

No. 398709

>>398707
I’m confused, what do you mean?

No. 398714

Have any nonas had experiences with their babies measuring small around 20+ weeks? How did it go for you and baby?

No. 398727

>>398707 You will be a good and fierce killdeer in this life and the next nona

No. 398736

>>398707
>All I ever wanted was to be a mother now it just feels like the world hates me for it.
Find new friends or find a new part of the internet to hang out in. I had a similar impression but people (other parents) are really supportive.

No. 398766

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I'm having crazy baby fever right now. I keep seeing the cutest baby videos on the internet and even the thought of the tiny little clothes makes me want to cry from cuteness. Even something as stupid as baby toys or socks of all things make me emotional from how cute they are.

No. 398788

Has anyone successfully made mom/parent friends with strangers? None of my other friends have kids. The only people eager to be mom friends with me turned out to want to recruit me into their church. Any tips would be appreciated

No. 398848

How do I start feeling like a woman again? I lost the baby weight and am a year postpartum, but I feel like a gutter crawler. When my Nigel found out I felt this way he took the baby out so I could shower and shampoo and shave without heating screaming, and told me to find a salon so he can get me a haircut. He’s also taking me to buy a bra that actually fits, as I’m still nursing and have been in stretchy letter size monstrosities this whole time. He also wants to help me get some pants, as I’ve been stuck in my first trimester clothes for the past 10 months. (I do have my own income and never thought to ask him to help with this; with baby expenses I just haven’t spent anything on myself.) What else can I do to feel better, keeping in mind I have no time between work, baby, and chores. Exercise and the like isn’t something I can do on weekdays.

No. 399012

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Today I found out you can play vidyagaems to strengthen your pelvic floor after having a baby. I'm kind of disappointed nobody is doing let's plays or twitch streams.

No. 399013

>>398714
Mine measured big one month and tiny the next, there was no consistency in her size. In the end she was born tiny but healthy.

No. 399185

>>399012
Holy shit, this made me kek. I'm so tempted to buy this for my wife as a gag but I'm pretty sure she'd throw it at my head (understandable). Ngl I'd be tempted to try it myself. Can it run Doom?

No. 399237

>>399185
Not yet but some enterprising coder could probably hack the sensor and make pelvic floor doom a real thing. What I really want to see is a pelvic floor fighting game with tournaments to see who has the mightiest vagina.

No. 399275

>>399012
I want this!!!!

No. 399280

>>399237
>What I really want to see is a pelvic floor fighting game with tournaments to see who has the mightiest vagina.
Catch me training like Rocky to beat all the lolcow girlies at coochie Tekken.

No. 399389

>>399012
I have the Elvie. It’s far less exciting and definitely a chore. Maybe I should have gotten the perifit.

No. 399645

What book do you recommend a breastfeeding FTM should read?

No. 399648

>>399645
>>399645
Whatever lactation consultants are reading - don't. Ive heard of so many lactation consultants ruining women's breastfeeding journeys or doing more harm than good.

Also might want to choose something not American based as Americans have so much misinformation when it comes to breastfeeding

No. 399862

>>399645
One that tells her not to breastfeed and pass her experimental medication onto her baby. That kid is fucked enough having a retard for a mother, no need to make it worse.

No. 400003

>>399862
FTM also means "first time mother", you fucking rhesus monkey.

No. 400024


No. 400026

>>400003
Retarded acronym to use on this site of all places

No. 400133

>>400026
It's an extremely common acronym. If you can't work out that a woman openly calling herself a "FTM" in the fucking baby thread on a tranny hating website isn't a troon, then that's on you, not her.

No. 400148

>>400026
I was thinking the same thing, like "why would you use that here?" but actually she's right we're wrong. Let the moms reclaim FTM, we use TIF here anyway because it's more accurate.

No. 400217

We plan to start trying for a baby later this year but I'm panicking about how we'll balance work and caring for a baby (especially on my end). We both work from home, my fiance makes decent money (I don't earn as much and I'll obviously earn even less with maternity leave) and he's incredibly supportive/proactive about doing chores and the like.
My hope would be to eventually return to my freelance work around the baby's sleep schedule and only really have the in-laws help us out (they live nearby and are both retired), but every forum, every reddit post basically says that's impossible and insane and you should either put your kid in daycare multiple days a week (daycare is too expensive where I live, would genuinely be more than our mortgage) or be a stay-at-home mom until they're school aged. I can't tell if I'm delusional or if they all just don't have any support from their moids and parents. Even ~girlboss~ blogs about freelancing with a newborn end up mentioning daycare and nannies.
Do any nonnies have experience with this? Are you able to get any work done even with mom brain? Would this be too exhausting to be sustainable? I'm really worried about longterm financial health, I grew up poor and don't want to put my children through that.

No. 400239

>>400217
Both my wife and I work from home and we have twins. It is hard work and it's a huge adjustment, but IMO it is doable. For us the key is routine, it takes time of course, but once you manage to get the kids on even just a loose routine you'll find yourself being able to slot in work sessions and work around each other. I can't speak for the mum brain as my wife carried the kids, but she has mentioned it holding her back a bit, as well as the exhaustion. I actually wanted to retire her, if I'm being completely honest. But her work is important to her, she finds it rewarding so I understand wanting to keep that part of her identity. I think it's been good for her to keep going, she's part-time now but doing incredible. She's mentally very resilient whereas I'm a worrier, so it took me a while to get into a flow state with my work as a new mum; there's always those nagging thoughts in the back of your head "are the kids ok? is my partner ok? have I done this? have I done that?" but I'm getting there slowly. Luckily I have a wonderful stepmum who's a very hands-on grandmother so she's around quite a bit which helps ease the workload. I will say I am making less with my business now, not by a huge margin and I'm still turning a profit, but I think it's only natural for your work to dip when living this life. It's all about managing expectations and preparing, IMO. I worked my tits off while we were conceiving and my wife was pregnant so I had that cushion to fall back on. I also grew up poor, so I understand your worries. Anyway idk if this was helpful, but your husband sounds dependable and you have in-laws nearby which is a huge bonus. If your heart is telling you to follow this path, then do it. I wouldn't change this for the world. I love having my kids close by and not missing out on any important moments. When I'm struggling with my work I often go and play with them and they always give me the strength to push on and work for their future. Whatever you choose I wish you all the best, nona.

No. 400376

Is there a reason why one would keep their baby's sex a secret when talking in safe online spaces?

No. 400385

>>400217
I hope this upcoming journey goes well for you.
>but every forum, every reddit post basically says that's impossible and insane
I have seen those posts. It truly depends on your personal situation and yeah I do suspect in a lot of cases it's related to having an unhelpful partner. In-laws can be a source of pain and stress in your life or they can be a wonderful support. Pregnancy, having a baby/recovery, the stress from taking care of a baby (it is so much responsibility and lifestyle change) It can be a fragile or sensitive time for either the mom or the dad, but of course everyone has their own level of resiliency and stamina.
If your in-laws are people who would be able to watch the baby without creating additional stress on you/your husband, then that is a solid plan. However, it's common that in-laws will overstep boundaries, become judgemental and critical, or just become too obtrusive and controlling once the baby arrives. Sometimes the change is unexpected, or the dynamic change is caused by a shift in the parents and not the in-laws. Whatever the reason, there is a saying "free childcare is not free."
Some of my coworkers have hired part time nannies that are in the home while the parent is also home working. I can't imagine it's much more expensive than daycare.
Whatever you end up deciding to do, you can always change your mind if it isn't working for you. I wouldn't worry too much about it. You are not locked into any decision forever.

>Are you able to get any work done even with mom brain?

Yes, I found the return to work easy - I am definitely dumber than I was before but it feels like I am 10% dumber and it didn't impact work. Working during pregnancy was harder and nearly impossible some days, with respect to brain fog and sleepiness, but everyone I asked about it said they didn't observe any differences in my behavior.

>Would this be too exhausting to be sustainable?

If your husband pulls his weight and you both get enough sleep I wouldn't be worried.

No. 400624

>>400217
Why would you want to work? Serious question esp if your husband gets paid enough to sustain you. Are you that adicted to consoomerism or simply a slave?

No. 400646

>>400624
Nta but if you wanna seem credible your first step would not be immediately accusing the anon of all kinds of weird crap for simply asking if she should return to work

No. 400648

>>400624
Some people like not having to depend on their partner and making their own money for various reasons, or just to get out of the house and be around other people.

No. 400859

Not sure if this is even the right thread but I need to talk about this. Sometimes I think I really do want children and I want it but it’s ONLY thinking of having a daughter or two. Then I remember I might be pregnant with a boy and any desire instantly evaporates, and it’s not in an edgy radfem way (I mean I am sort of a radfem but this is not political) I feel like I’m not even capable of being knocked up with a male though, like if I do decide I just feel like it’ll be a girl so maybe I should trust my instincts and take the plunge one day

No. 400871

>>400859
I thought this too and I'm currently pregnant with a boy. I'm scared of how he will turn out, babyhood is fun, I just hope the podcast era stops by the time he gets old enough to use technology

No. 400931

>>400871
being pregnant with a boy is one of my greatest fears in life ngl. godspeed anon hope he turns out to be a gentle and kind soul

No. 401164

Where are you all getting your jeans postpartum? I am 1 year postpartum and 5 lbs up from my previous weight, but my stomach is huge! I went to the mall today and nothing looked good. The jeans I wore before getting pregnant aren’t even available anymore.

No. 401210

>>401164
I didn’t wear jeans for a couple years because of this reason. Body is still adjusting, even more so if you’re still breastfeeding.
Or consider buying a really nice pair of jeggings. And I mean really nice. Cheap ones are the worst. They make nice ones now but they’re pretty pricey.

No. 401211

>>401164
Get your hormones checked, a lot of thyroid hormones can be thrown off after pregnancy

No. 401682

tradfags btfo
did going back to uni help return your sanity/schedule? I love being a mom more than anything in the world, but I also want to set a good example for my children and get higher education, I don't want to be "just a mom" anymore

No. 401712

>>401164
You might have diastasis recti

No. 402126

I’m going into labor, but I have no friends, family, or romantic partner for support. It’s literally just me and the nurses, nobody else. This is my first baby, and my only birth experience is when my middle school played The Miracle of Life. Any advice for surviving what’s about to come? It’s not quite excruciating yet, but I know what I’m in for.

No. 402249

>>401712
I think I do. Do any US nonnies have experience getting pt for this? It seems like pelvic floor therapy is far more widespread. I live in a major city but finding childcare is tricky, so I don’t want to be wasting my time.

No. 402253

>>400871
Anon you replied to and wellyou just birth controlled me. But if I do try in a few years, I will be doing the citrus method and I will be using the method where you do it like 4-5 days before you ovulate since ALLEGEDLY male sperms are much less likely to make it through. Sorry if this sounds insensitive lol I wish you the best possible boy baby luck. My cousins are all male and they turned out pretty good as far as I know. Like they seem respectful and not subhuman and aren’t ugly which are all wins for males

>>402126
How did it go?

No. 402281

>>402126
I wish you all the best anon! The nurses we so kind to me during birth and after. I hope you have a similar experience

No. 403088

>>402249
If it is mild you can correct it at home. Look up exercises for correcting diastasis recti and be mindful that you have proper form (use mirror or cellphone)

No. 403113

my vagina is really itchy but there is a baby sleeping on my lap so I can't scratch it :((emoji)

No. 403114

>>403113
Go back from whence you came.

No. 403215

>>394755
Use sperm sorting instead.

No. 403256

>>395081
Believe it or not, it's a deliberate psyop by cryptofash orgs like La Leche League. As male grip on capital weakened, they were strategically deployed as an attempt to promote childrearing practices that are impossible to actualize (eternal breastfeeding, attachment parenting, etc) unless you're chained to the kitchen sink.

No. 403321

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Getting induced tomorrow and I literally can't stop mentally spiraling over the amount of pain I'll be in or how my life is about to change forever. I'm both terrified and excited, how do people deal with this

No. 403324

>>403321
Kek I love this pic

No. 403332

>>403256
>la leche league
>cryptofash
I hate crunchy moms and boob nazis too, but as they say, you should never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The crunchy gymnastics likely happen because the women involved have zero accomplishments beyond infant-rearing rather than because of some ideology.
>>403321
Hope everything goes well!

No. 403367

>>403332
The creators of attachment parenting are evangelical christians and la leche league iirc has a similar origin. Like all "natural" shit it's embraced by crunchies (signifying a successful psyop after all), but that doesn't erase the original intent behind those orgs.

No. 403385

>>403321
You aren't alone in these feelings if that makes you feel better.
All the best and i wish you well.

No. 403407

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>>403332
>stupidity
Huh? There's a lot of data backing up the ideas that breast milk and frequent physical closeness are good for little babies. There is also data backing up the fact that kids raised in single parent household tend to do less well than their peers. Not that it should stop anyone from divorcing if their partner is abusive… no doubt being exposed to things like violence would hurt a kid more than having one parent.

>>403367
It always makes me sad that religious people are the only ones who seem to care about babies nowadays. Sometimes it feels like everyone else is like pic related.

>>403321
Epidurals and painkillers make labor a lot more bearable. I suggest getting lots of sleep in advance and planning meals you can just pop in the microwave, you'll be tired and hungry once it's over but the amount of rest you'll be able to get depends on your support system.

No. 403448

>>403407
Attachment parenting is not about physical closeness with the baby, it's about literally never leaving the kid and sleeping in the same bed until it's like 10 lmao

No. 403452

I am 7 months pregnant and have made the irreversible mistake of choosing the wrong man to have a baby with. Wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy, and can't even rightfully complain because the fault is my own. I am paralyzed by fear of the future and don't know what to do or say or think. I have failed my baby.

No. 403454

>>403452
You recognized it before the baby is here and that's what's most important as now you can take steps to protect your self and baby. My sister also had a baby with a shit moid but it didn't set in with her until her baby was 2 and the dad left the baby at home to get drunk while my sister was at work. You can do it nonna, reach out to even distant family and friends you'll be surprised at how willing folks are to help with babies.

No. 403456

>>403452
>I have failed my baby.
First off, drop this mindset now. You've only failed your baby when you give up on them and let them suffer with a bad father. Not sure what your situation is (and you do not need to share it) but if you want better for your child, then leave him ASAP. Preferably before the baby is born because once he signs the birth certificate that opens up a bunch of legal shit that makes it difficult for you to have sole custody

No. 403457

>>403452
Correct me if I'm wrong but an abortion is still possible at this stage.

No. 403559

>>403452
Whatever you're going through sounds like it must be heartbreaking, but it's for the best you realize it now. It's not too late. The best thing you can do for your baby is find somewhere safe to take care of the both of you. I hope you have family or friends to lean on right now. Good luck nona.

No. 403672

>>403457
Most people don’t want an abortion at this stage. She needs to plan a life without the moid.

No. 403733

>>403672
But half the genes are from the low tier moid.

No. 403740

>>395081
I think some of it is commercialization. individuals running business as 'experts", influencers, or organization's create ideals or standards to sell people either a book or consultancy service. Individuals then take that information and perpetuate those ideas.
Coupled with that, people throughout history have a tendancy to become fanatical about ideas. It isn't just related to parenting - you can see this in other spheres. The internet also makes it so much easier for everyone to exchange ideas so this phenomenon is at the intensity we have now

No. 403755

Does anyone know what pulmonary embolism pain is supposed to feel like? I have chest pain in the area where a PE might be but no other symptoms nor risk factors aside from being pregnant. Really don't want to have to spend all day getting tested tomorrow fml

No. 403757

>>403755
Pregnant women are at significantly increased risk for blood clots and pulmonary embolism. Go to the hospital or you could die in your sleep.

No. 403762

>>403757
Is it worth it when the pain just feels like pleurisy and there are no other symptoms?

No. 403764

>>403457
Where do you live that you can get an elective abortion at 7 months??

No. 403769

>>403740
It's simply just the fact everyone is extremely arrogant nowadays and can't understand when or why they're wrong. mothers are an easy target since most moms are always looking to improve their skills and pushing them down is a lot easier since they have lots of love and care towards their kids, telling a mom she's wrong over every little thing will sting a lot worse

No. 403770

>>403762
Blood clots can be silent killers. Some women have no symptoms then just drop dead because they were on birth control or pregnant. The hormone levels increase your bloods thickening and clotting. If you’re pregnant and have pain while breathing you need to go to the dr.

No. 403783

>>403770
Now I have the same exact sensation on the other side of my chest. It must just be a respiratory infection or something. Though if I don't come back to lolcor it means I died

No. 403895

>>403452
Do you want the baby? You can always join a mommune or move in with friends/family that you know will help. Try to stay off of TikTok and Instagram though, a lot of severe hate boners for single moms

No. 403914

>>403783
I survived, the doctor thinks it's just from a mild respiratory infection since there's zero indication that anything else is wrong, and she ordered me to take it easy today and drink lots of water since the ordeal had freaked me out and elevated my BP and heart rate. What a shitty situation, though better than dying from a blood clot I suppose.

No. 404065

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>chronic constipation because of pelvic floor issues combined with the fact that due to breastfeeding, my boobs steal every extra ounce of moisture I ingest

>baby fell asleep in her gym


>take the opportunity to heed nature's call


>it's one of those massive hard poops that come out in little chunks at an average rate of one chunk per five minutes


>baby wakes up, is angry


>get up mid poop with one chunk dangling halfway out of my butt to go soothe the baby


>after soothing, go clean myself and proceed to hold in the rest of my poop until her next nap


you really don't know what true love is until you have had a baby

No. 404066

>>404065
Why not wait 2 seconds until the poop falls out peacefully? The baby can wait a little jesus kek

No. 404067

>>404066
I'm super constipated, pooping it all out would probably take 30 minutes.

No. 404076

>>404067
Try dates! Nobody should ever be that constipated. Dates and at least a gallon of water a day.

No. 404082

>>402253
>>402281
Hi I’m back and god damn, that was the roughest experience of my life. I knew it was gonna hurt during labor, but the aftermath is nightmarish. My vagina felt like it was on fire for days, and witch hazel doesn’t even put a dent in the pain. I had to just get a bag of frozen peas and stuff that in my panties.

No. 404094

>>394673
Yeah. I’m 22 and sometimes I cry because I feel a physical biological urge to have a child and care for them. Like some part of me just needs to be cradling my baby right now.

No. 404096

>>404082
Congratulations though nonna ♥ I’m sending good vibes for your recovery and postpartum healing

No. 404265

>>404082
They didn't give you lidocaine or pain killers?

No. 404468

>>404082
Ice is good. So is dermaplast. Or whatever lidocaine spray they have near you.

No. 404476

>>404082
Those giant maxi pads with the cooling effect were the best thing ever. 11/10 would recommend

No. 404526

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I'm 27 right now and single, and have basically come to the conclusion that I will be totally fine without kids, but would be willing to have 1 or 2 if I met the right person. However, I don't have strong maternal instincts, like at all. I have never experienced baby fever, and when I have dreams about having kids I usually wake up relieved that they aren't real. I don't hate kids, though. I think they're funny and interesting, and don't mind being around them. I am pretty awkward around them, I try to interact with them or wave at them and just feel like I'm being weird. I have a strong work ethic and consider myself emotionally resilient though, so sometimes I think I could handle motherhood. My own mother was a paranoid borderline schizo shut-in who was verbally and physically abusive though so maybe I just think I'd be a good mother because I had a bad example?

No. 404781

>>404526
This all sounds pretty common or normal.
The #1 most important thing is selecting the right partner. It'll impact everything. Be ruthless when dating, pregnancy is so vulnerable and is a physical and mental sacrifice. future you deserves a supportive, loving husband. Your future kids deserve a good father.
Be aware that pregnancy and motherhood can stir up painful memories about your mom and your childhood. You might want to have a therapist for pregnancy or be able to work through it yourself.
Other than that your other worries (lack of maternal instinct, current state of singleness) are nbd imo.

No. 404783

>>404526
Samefag but the mother thing is nbd also. You know what not to do and you already know how bad parenting (or untreated mental illness. Mothers need to take care of themselves too and often don't for many reasons) can hurt children. Just try to be mindful of it >>404526

No. 405156

Have any of you lost 100% of your fitness during pregnancy and get it back later?
Did you follow a guide to do it?

No. 405159

>>405156
You can’t lose 100% of your fitness from being pregnant kek

No. 405222

>>405159
This, I had pre-pre eclampsia and did nothing but rest and eat for 4 months, even after I recovered it was never a complete 180 or anything, just slightly more difficult

No. 405223

>>405222
whats pre-pre-eclampsia?

No. 405228

>>405223
I had tachy and my blood pressure was going up sometimes but never offically "had it"

No. 405229

>>405159
She's obviously exaggerating if you couldn't tell, my little autist. I'll never understand anons who deliberately misunderstand posts just to cause infights.

No. 405256

>>405156
Adding on to this, I was fit as fuck during my pregnancy. I swam a lot, exercised every day, did a ton of squats. I felt STRONG. Then I had a nightmare labour. 4 days prodromal labour, 14 hour real labour, nearly 5 hours of pushing. I'm 6 months post partum and only now starting to regain some of my old strength. Its been humbling, I've always been far fitter than my husband and for the first time ever he can walk faster and further than I can. The labour on top of extreme sleep deprivation (my little one is a terrible sleeper) and breastfeeding wrecked me. Is exercising daily even going to help me or do I need to take it slow and fully recover first?

No. 405264

I'm 28 weeks pregnant and the closer I get to birth time the more its kinda sinking in that I have to get this big ass baby out of me lol.
I've been extremely disappointed with all of my pregnancy care, I dont know if its my countries health system (aus) or what but holy shit.
The hospital I'm giving birth at is the same place I'm getting my midwife care and bloodwork stuff done, they have an app and my test results are in and I have no idea what they mean and I dont see the midwife until July 10th.
I would assume if something is wrong then it would be flagged on the system and I get a call to book in/they auto book me in? Or is that something I'm meant to chase up myself? I wish the results just says YES YOU HAVE GB/ YES YOU HAVE STREP but it doesnt, its all vague and could be taken either way.

I had gone to the ER at 26 weeks because bub had only moved 4 times in 48 hours, got checked and everything is fine apparently. The report was sent to the app and it says "diagnosis: foetal and placental problem affecting management of mother".
Wtf does that mean? The Dr said everything was fine? The hospital doesnt have an ER line for me to call to ask, its an hour drive away. Dr Google throws up "placental insufficiency" and says the placenta isnt giving enough blood.
I had seen a midwife a few days after that ER visit for my 26 week check and she didnt mention the report at all (I didnt have it on my app yet or I would have asked) and bub was apparently fine at that checkup.

Why does everything feel like a struggle? Is it my hormones making me sensitive? I'm worried I'm slipping through the cracks?

I only have 2 booked appointments to see a midwife until I give birth and that seems extremely low? Every video around pregnancy I watch people are being seen 2ish weeks starting now? What if something goes wrong and its not caught because I dont see anyone for 4 weeks? Is that only for people who are high risk?

No. 405461

>>395081
my cousin was deeply troubled by this. even though i am also a mother, I didnt realize that this was a thing until she started having breakdowns about not parenting the right way. We discovered that this happened to her because she consumes a lot of content on social media aimed at moms. I am a social media-phobe, other than lolcow, so I was never exposed to any of the fearmongering. I have always just looked at parenting as a trial and error type of deal and had no idea how hard many mothers are on themselves these days. I think a lot of moms become lonely from the isolation motherhood can cause, so they try to remedy this by reaching out on various social media. I think that modern social media operates through igniting the emotions of both fear and anger to get peoples attention longer per visit. Making mothers overly afraid and angry at differing parenting styles is probably making these sites and apps a lot of money. My cousin was having actual regular panic attacks over things like making sure she was buying the right things for her son and talking to him in the right way. She was overly relying on opinions of other people on apps and articles instead of listening to her own intuition as a mother. She was never this worried as a person before she became a mother. Her personality was very independent and decisive, so this was shocking to me. Opinions can sometimes be helpful, but not when said opinions are being fabricated for profit and for the total manipulation of a woman's psyche. She did not even realize that she was allowed to ignore all of the articles and posts in favor of listening to her own intuition. She was shocked to hear that it was okay to ask herself about her son instead of googling most things. The fear really got to her and made her confidence dwindle. I think this might be happening to a lot of mothers and its really sad. It takes the self-trust and self reliance away from mothers, the stuff that is naturally built up within us through experience with our children.

No. 405647

>>405461
This + mom groups. I swear to God people will actually try to murder you over small things like swaddling, food or even correctly following car seat safety.

No. 405652

>>405647
This. Stay away from the online mom groups holy shit. I joined a couple and ended up leaving after I couldn’t handle it anymore. Lolcow has nothing on local mom groups kek.

You put a small stuffed animal in the corner of your baby’s crib? Well you’re now attempting to murder your baby, good going.

No. 405763

>>405652
The SIDS fear mongering to me is insane, I've seen people act like using a nest while monitoring your baby 100% will give it SIDS somehow. Majority of people fear mongering about SIDS don't even seem to know what it is since it's not the same as suffocation and most babies who die from SIDS have previous issues like prematurity

No. 405773

>>405763
Isn’t SIDS just the child version of Sudden Adult Death Syndrome aka heart arrhythmia or congenital heart defect? I see scrotes tinfoiling that babies who die from SIDS are all murdered by their moms and that women are evil baby killers.

No. 405799

>>405773
yeah, there's been a lot of research, "SIDS" is an umbrella term often used when writing an autopsy, can be anything from suffocation (which is rare cases) to unknown illnesses, defects, etc. There's been deeper research finding certain bacterias often causes SIDS and so on.
>I see scrotes tinfoiling that babies who die from SIDS are all murdered by their moms and that women are evil baby killers.
I've definitely seen this too. Also strange they accuse the mom of killing the baby and not dad or other household members. It's like moids purposely look for women in traumatizing situations to kick them down and traumatize them even further, they probably don't even believe half the stuff they say but get off on the idea of a traumatized and scared mother hating herself even more

No. 406674

>>405773
SIDS is actually more common in babies where they cosleep with an unrelated adult male. so if anything wouldn’t moids be the baby killers?

No. 406907

>>405799
There was an Australian Mother (Kathleen Megan Folbigg) who was convicted of murdering her 4 infants in the early 00's. It turned out that they all had the same genetic health defect that caused them pass away. She spent 20 years in jail for that.
SIDS is probably mostly out of your control. Obviously you should make sure your baby doesn't accidentally suffocate itself but people take it too far.
>>405264
Sounds like they diagnosed you with being anxious to me.
If the baby is moving I would think it's fine.
>>404065
You should take daily stool softeners and drink way way more water.
>>405461
Well said nonna

No. 406915

True SIDs (not suffocation) is most likely caused by seizures per the latest research. Infantile seizures are most often caused by fever.

No. 406918

>>403407
>It always makes me sad that religious people are the only ones who seem to care about babies nowadays. Sometimes it feels like everyone else is like pic related.
You think babies are oppressed? In a world where it's legal to kill women if they're pregnant by medically neglecting them? A 2 week old zygote has more rights than you. I swear crunchy moms will only be satisfied when their babies walk them on leashes like dogs!

No. 407008

I’m the anon who mentioned having a 12 year old daughter from a teen pregnancy in the last thread, and planned to have another. Wife and I talked with my daughter, and she was on board 100%, she’s wanted a brother or sister since she was little (but I wasn’t gonna raise two kids that young). My wife decided to carry this one, because my teen pregnancy was more brutal than usual and she doesn’t want me to go through that again. Does anyone have advice about raising kids with such a large age gap? I already know that I’m not gonna parentify her, or expect her to care for the baby like it’s her own, but I don’t really have any experience dealing with such a big age gap.

No. 407050

>>407008
I don't have kids myself, but my parents decided to have more kids when I was in my teens. My advice would be to try and pay attention to both of the children equally. It's hard when the baby is small and requires a bunch of attention, staying up late for feedings etc but don't forget the older ones needs either! Try to do things with her too, like go to the movies with her or whatever you normally do with her for fun. It's really easy to feel ignored and alone when your parents are (understandably) fussing over a baby 24/7. Reassure her that even though you are busy with the baby, you still love her and she's just as important as the new child. Involve her in taking care of the baby somewhat if she's interested, but if she's not she shouldn't have to imo!

No. 407134

>>407008
>I’m not gonna parentify her, or expect her to care for the baby like it’s her own
That’s probably the best advice right there. With a large age gap like that, you just have to allow her to be a sibling like any sibling would be. You shouldn’t expect much responsibility between siblings except to make sure they get along to a certain degree and she’s not teaching the littlest inappropriate stuff (language, music, what she watches on tv, etc). And if she wants to be really involved, that’s great and I would let her. I don’t have a large age gap between my two but I know my oldest had a hard time when her brother came. And trying to remind her she wasn’t “replaced” was important. So carving out one on one time with your oldest will also be very important.

No. 407244

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Is there a way to get sperm from famous people or their descendants? I want to make a test tube baby with the sperm of a famous black historical figure but select its traits so it's as pale as possible so it can have white privilege but still be a proud black woman.(racebaiting weirdo)

No. 407258

PP glow up goals? I birth in august with my second, my goals are
>general weight loss
>skin and hair improvement
>breast lift/reduction
>improve fashion and makeup skills
>lip and eye lift

No. 407379

>>405229
I think she was just pretending to be dumb

No. 407427

>>404065
Lmao this is so relatable I'm so sorry and I hope you can have normal poops soon (reminder that breastfeeding means you need like almost 1 liter water MORE than normal) It's almost like babies can literally sense if you leave by your fucking energy field or whatever even when you make absolutely 0 sound. You can lay 2 hours still next to baby and nothing and when you basically just think about getting up: boom, wide open eyes.

No. 407466

>>407008
i don’t have kids (yet), but i was 14 when my youngest sibling was born and my advice is about the same as the other nonnas. don’t parentify her, of course, but do try to gauge her interest and follow her lead on how much she wants to help care for with the baby. personally, i kind of wish i got to help with my baby siblings more, but it was rarely offered to me. i’d also encourage trying to have something specific and routine that’s just between the two of you and that the baby won’t “get in the way” of, i.e. a weekly movie night, ice cream dates, etc. that goes a long way to show that you’re still putting in a conscious effort to spend 1-on-1 time with her, and might help negate any feelings of being replaced (because even if she’s excited about the baby, she may still feel insecure/jealous at one point or another; i definitely did from time to time).

No. 407854

>>407258
The only goal I have is to recover well..

No. 408008

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I hate how normal symptoms of pregnancy can also be symptoms of life-threatening or otherwise dangerous conditions (e.g. swelling)

My health anxiety has been rearing its ugly head in the middle of the 2nd trimester. Does anyone have coping mechanisms that helped them manage hypochondria during pregnancy?

No. 408029

I don't want to ever give birth but I absolutely want to raise children/teens. I plan to foster in the future and maybe even adopt if one of them feels close to me enough to want something like that and of course if the conditions are right, court legality and all that I've been a pretty big screw up when I was a teen but I am proud to say I'm getting my shit together well enough that I might actually be on track to providing a safe and nurturing environment for some kid(s) within the next 10 years. I remember going through the system and how awful it felt. I just want to give someone a safe place where they can try to emotionally heal and relax before they age out and have to face the world alone without support. I don't have any instincts for getting pregnant or giving birth but I have a deep burning desire to protect and unconditionally love any child or baby that a friend has so I don't think it would be too hard to emotionally invest in the wellbeing of a revolving cast of kids or teens that need a safehouse for a few months or years. I also really enjoy watching kids develop their own opinions and world views, it's just cool as shit to me seeing a person grow I guess. Maybe that's what a "maternal instinct" actually is? Idk, I just can't wait to foster.

No. 408102

I used to be such a lonely introvert, but having my baby has made me so extroverted and I have finally found a wonderful community of women friends. When I first got pregnant, I was scared of making friends, scared of driving, scared of being out alone, but after meeting some women at my breastfeeding class I have become so much more independent, go on adventures with our babies, and finally understand how amazing female friendships truly are. Helped so much with my Postpartum depression.

No. 408136

>>408008
If you're worried about the swelling maybe you can buy a blood pressure monitor (one for the arm is best) to keep track yourself and have some peace of mind.

No. 408137

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Post-Partum hormones making me cry over everything. My baby isn’t even a month old and I’m crying at the idea that one day, she won’t do her newborn scrunch anymore…

No. 408193

""safety"" Nazis who tell you to disregard doctor advice because "it's outdated" are the absolute fucking worse. I see so many people claiming women should work out a week after birth, don't give your kid a single drop of anything but breast milk until 12 MONTHS. Rear face well past the child has maxed out, don't take a single medication while pregnant, not even Tylenol, just don't eat, sleep, shower, etc and if you can't do that shouldn't have had a baby!

Literal fucking insanity, you'd probably find better advice from a plague doctor in a bird mask

No. 408195

>>408102
Bless nona, I hope the same thing happens with me

No. 408342

>>394660
I found out i'm pregnant last week and i'm kind of panicking a bit. We wanted a baby in a year or two but not now. At the same time i'm kind of excited.
Anyways, i've been getting so nauseus and tired all the time, I was wondering if any nonnas who had kids before had tips for getting over it? I was pretty active before and I want to continue working out because I read it will do me and the baby a lot of good.

No. 408344

>>408342
Keep your blood sugar stable. It’s low blood sugar that causes morning sickness. Eat complex carbohydrates and plenty of protein and fat.
And congratulations!

No. 408366

>>408137
Your so cute nonnie
Comfort yourself by imagining all the new expressions she will learn to do.
>>408342
Congratulations!

No. 408488

Is anyone else concerned about the trend of parents trooning out their kids in how it’ll impact dating in the future? I know it’s probably still a small number, but I look at my baby and wonder how I’d even explain how to navigate this in 15 years or whatever. I imagine kids who have been on blockers/HRT will be much harder to clock as trannies than the moids (and TiFs) we see now. I only currently have a son and it seems these loons usually are trooning out their sons to be “girls,” but I’d worry about it if I had a daughter as well. Such a strange landscape to navigate…

No. 408507

I'm pregnant with my second and thought I'd be used to being a lowkey retarded and hormonal mess, today I sneezed and pissed myself a little on the couch and I started crying from the shame. Nigel did his best saying no one is judging me other than myself but it still its difficult. Much love and power to all pregnant farmers

No. 408508

>>408193
nothing but breastmilk from 6-12 not obly sounds like a recipe for malnourishing, enjoy getting a basically toddler used to solid foods that can throw them full force at you instead of enjoying a somewhat calm eating experience

No. 408613

>>408488
I think about this a lot too. What is the best way to even explain it to children? It's not like you can just ignore it because even though it's only a small population, it's literally everywhere. You don't want your child to be ostracized as a "bully" but you don't want them to drink the kool aid so what can a parent do?

No. 408615

>>408508
it literally is plus the kid just ends up developing allergies for everything. Do these people even actually believe anything they push? it just feels like more of a brag about how they're so much safer than everyone else even though they're hurting their kids

No. 408652

>>408342
>Anyways, i've been getting so nauseus and tired all the time, I was wondering if any nonnas who had kids before had tips for getting over it?
I don't have advice for nausea, but for tiredness, you'll have to wait until the 1st trimester is over for it to go away. You may have to accept that your movement will be more limited and do what you can with the energy you have, then maybe pick up again once your energy levels do. Definitely don't stress yourself out over it and push yourself too hard; just remember that countless women have been kneecapped by pregnancy symptoms and gave birth to perfectly healthy babies.
In the meantime, enjoy getting the best sleep of your life!
>>408615
>Do these people even actually believe anything they push?
Many women have killed or permanently disabled their children in pursuit of the uwu crunchy life, so there are either some true believers or people willing to sacrifice their children under social pressure.

No. 408654

>>408488
I'm more worried about those parents and kids and media sinking their teeth into my child before they develop critical thinking skills or being groomed without me knowing, like those teachers on tiktok who talk about not telling the students parents and even getting the kids on medication without parents knowing.
My husbands sister is tif and idk what to tell the kids once they realize something is wrong with her.

No. 408772

>>408507
Don’t even worry nonna, every woman who’s been pregnant here has had a meltdown over dumb shit. When I was pregnant, we ran out of my favorite chips, and I cried about it so hard that I threw up and pissed myself. In fact, does anyone else have stories about the stupid shit you cried about while pregnant?

No. 409086

>>408772
NTA but I cried because kfc didnt put salt on my chips. Plain fried potato is disgusting

No. 409131

>>408344
>>408366
>>408652
Thanks for all the kind replies nonnas X I've been trying to eat more carbs in smaller quantities and the doctor gave me some pills to suck on that are supposed to ease the sickness.
I got folic acid too, does it give anyone else weird dreams? The first time I took it I had a nightmare about my cat and semi hallucinated a hand coming out of the ceiling to grab me.

No. 409188

>>409131
Oh my god, I thought that was just me!!! Folic acid gives me the trippiest dreams of all time. I had a recurring that my baby was born two inches tall, and I had to carry her around in my pocket and take care of her while she was so tiny. And it only happened after I took prenatal vitamins with folic acid.

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nonnies I have baby fever so bad but feel like I should wait longer… how did you know when you were ready to have a baby? my main concern is financial, nigel and I both work and live comfortably but obviously having a child is such a huge expense (financially and in time too, genuinely don't know how my mom raised me as a full-time working single mother. I couldn't do it) I can't help but worry. But of course the parents/in-laws are pestering for grandchildren and saying we're getting too old kek so maybe we should just do it already

No. 409232

>>409229
I think if you are in a good relationship with someone with a similar mindset with parenting, stable jobs and a roof over your head, then you should be good. Kids are expensive. Unless you are waiting to randomly become super wealthy, you need to ask yourself if you can support a child right now.

Also, ask your Nigel questions about schooling (preschool, grade school, homeschool), vaccines, breastfeeding/ formula, etc etc. I thought me and my ex were on the same page when it came to parenting and it turned out we were total opposite. I had to fight tooth and nail over dumb shit that I never thought I would have to fight for.

No. 409373

>>409229
If you live comfortably right now then it sounds like you're in a good position for it so long as your relationship with your nigel is also stable. Unless you decide to stay at home or choose a less strenuous career path then your income will probably grow as the kid does and you won't feel a huge financial strain forever.

No. 409648

>>409229
it's NEVER perfect and honestly if you and your nigel are both hardworking, honest and reliable people you can risk it imo. When I got pregnant with our first we were together 1.5years, he was living with his Dad and didn't even have a license or a job in a different country than me and I was on the brink of getting fired from my not even fulltime job. Now fast forward 2 years later, he found a good job I can be a SAHM, we live in a nice apartment together and I'm pregnant with second. Have the right mindset and willingness to make it work and you will. No point in waiting too late

No. 409651

They don't tell you about the scary parts of parenting (toddler keeps pointing to the empty hallway asking 'who's that')

No. 409662

I went and got a 3d ultrasound today and oh my god nonnas my baby is so cute.
I'm so glad I spent the money on it.
So so happy seeing him, his chubby cheeks already, his little nose. My love has skyrocketed.

No. 409666

>>409651
Did you ask what they're pointing at? Sorry that your house is hainted nonnie.

No. 409698

>>409666
She just repeated it, kept pointing and asking. Guess I'll burn some sage or something kek

No. 409892

I am two weeks from my due date and I can’t wait to get her out of me. The closer I get, the more I think “fuck, I’m gonna have to push her out the way she came in”

No. 410008

>>409892
I'm 30 weeks and I'm thinking the exact same thing nona. Whew its gonna be a fun few days around laboring. I hope it goes well for you!

No. 410176

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I FUCKING HATE HAVING MY BUMP TOUCHED WITHOUT PERMISSION!!!! JUST BECAUSE I AM PREGNANT DOESN'T MEAN I WANT STRANGERS AT THE GROCERY STORE PRODDING ME AND ASKING IF MY BABY IS KICKING!!!!!

No. 410179

>>410176
Its literally absolutely the worst thing possible. I try to make them uncomfortable and say I'm not pregnant, just bloated and fat - hope this helps at least somewhat to punish these freaks

No. 410288

>>409651
As I was bouncing my 6 month old to sleep on the yoga ball in the dark he suddenly looks up at the ceiling and belly laughs. Tracks to another part of the ceiling and laughs again. Repeated this 3x before I ran to another room, turned the lights on and said fuck your nap.

No. 410291

>>410288
Maybe it was a nice ghost/spirit/fairy/orb if the baby was laughing.

No. 410317

>>410179
>>410176
Wtf, does this really happen? That sounds awful. I can't imagine how anyone thinks this isn't an invasion of privacy and personal space.

No. 410806

I thought this only happened to idiots, now I'm the idiot. I'm 6 months pp and pregnant. Got my period back at 3 months pp, had two of them and my third was late. 99% sure I ovulated around CD 12, started getting period cramps at about CD 30 but no period so I tested at CD36 - it was negative. Waited another 10 days to test again when I started getting nauseous and its fucking positive. I don't know how it happened, we were careful around ovulation and had risky sex when I started getting my "period" cramps and thought menstruation was imminent, which could have been implantation cramps I guess. I don't know if I just ovulated really late, around the time I usually get my period, or if we somehow conceived around my usual ovulation and the test didn't pick it up yet. Realistically I could be around 4 weeks or 6 weeks. Last time I got a positive before even missing my period. It took us a couple of months of actively trying to get pregnanct for our first, I know you're fertile after birth but this is ridiculous. I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm already taking a year of absence from my postgraduate studies for my firstborn, what the fuck am I going to do now? I doubt my supervisor or bursary funders are going to be very understanding. I'm doing a science degree so I literally can't be in the lab while pregnant. My firstborn is a really difficult baby, we have no family near us, my husband is in a panic. I'm so scared my milk will dry up, I really wanted to BF him until 2 years. I had zero energy during my pregnancy and my labour was so difficult, I don't know how to do this again. But I can't get rid of a baby (no matter how early it may be), its just not in me. I know I'll love them so much, but fucking hell there's only going to be like a 15 month gap. I wanted my firstborn to be the baby for a while, to enjoy him without these worries. And its all so embarassing, this feels almost like a teenage pregnancy? We're educated, around our 30s, understand how to avoid pregnancy, so how did we fuck up so badly?

No. 410812

>>410806
>understands how to avoid pregnancy
>has unprotected sex
>becomes pregnant
>I thought this only happened to idiots!?
not at all calling you an idiot but KEK, c’mon anon. Complications aren’t 100% guaranteed though and if it’s what you want, you’re best to go ahead positively. You should probably figure out a course of how you’ll return with your colleagues now, given the new circumstances, so it isn’t a mystery problem later.

No. 410818

>>410812
Lol nona you can it's fine! What I meant was though that we'd been cycle tracking and been cautious for years and it worked, I know its not fool proof (obviously), and I knew it was likely less effective post partum but not THIS ineffective.

No. 410833

I’ve never wanted kids but ugh lately I’ve been thinking like.. what if I just had one but then everyone tells you an only child will grow up to be super weird. But I absolutely could not handle more than one, tbh I really don’t think I could handle one at all. When I imagine having a baby it’s always a girl and I always imagine what I would name her and birthday parties and things like that. But what if I ended up with a boy or twins? I can’t take that chance. No way.

No. 410899

I am going baby crazy. I want to have a child (more like 3) with my Nigel so bad. He found it funny at first how serious I was but now he's baby crazy too. We have a lot to do before we have children that we have discussed e.g. move countries, get married etc. I don't know how to deal with the waiting. His brother's wife is pregnant and I keep feeling so jealous especially when I'm ovulating. Anyone else in this situation? How do you cope?

No. 410920

I was thinking of being a single mother by choice in the future through sperm donation. I've been doing a lot of reading about it since and it's just made me depressed. People say you shouldn't even attempt it unless you make high six figures and have flexible hours. I worry I'm never going to be able to afford having kids on my own. Then on top of that single mothers are hated so much right now, they're always blamed for causing crime and creating incels and basically every issue in society. At the same time I don't know how I could ever find someone who actually wants children with me. I feel totally helpless and so jealous and people around me having families.

No. 410921

>>410920
Most moids who seethe about single mothers weren't even raised by one, they're just lashing out because their dads are emotionally neglectful so they think they know what it's "like." Either that or they're just angry divorced deadbeats.

No. 410941

>>410920
I say go ahead, Kids aren't as expensive as people say unless you're actually throwing out loads of money left and right for little things like lulu lemon, every sport known to man, etc
>Then on top of that single mothers are hated so much right now, they're always blamed for causing crime and creating incels and basically every issue in society.
People who have hate boners for single moms aren't exactly very intelligent, they just see a mom and kid without a father in the moment and assume she's a single mom, and because they assumed she was a single mom it's clearly because she was getting gang banged by thugs daily and no other reason! kek I see married women get mistaken for single moms all the time and moids throw tantrums over it just cause she dare leave her house without her husband as if this was saudi arabia or something

No. 410962

>>410920
Just make sure that you're pregnant with a girl. Men become incels regardless if they were raised by single moms or in a nuclear family. They're just defective.

No. 411047

I hate the mommy and me group I’m in. When I mention that I only have a daughter, these boymoms just pity me, they think my life is miserable without a son. But I think I was meant to be a girl mom. I love my daughter so much, I don’t think I could ever love a boy baby as much as I love her. Which is good, because she’s the last baby I plan on having.

>>410920
I’m actually a single mother through sperm donation. Not really by choice, my fiancé and I broke up about 6 months into the pregnancy, and she decided to bail on everything. I can’t speak on it as a whole, but it really only seems like boys from single moms turn out like that. Girls from single moms are a lot more adjusted, at least from what I’ve seen

No. 411083

>>410920
I’m less worried about the finances and more about the fact that sperm banks are known to be extremely shady and it’s not uncommon that your child may have 500+ half-siblings because they don’t actually screen for congenital conditions or limit how much a single donor can jizz into a cup. They’ve also been known to straight up lie about donors.

No. 411151

>>410833
I'm an only child and I'm normal nona lol

No. 411232

>>411047
It's because moids lack accountability. Once the world started treating moids having a single mom as a free pass to act out it's exactly what happened

No. 411357

>>411083
I have this concern too, and I don't have any men in my life that I would feel comfortable asking to be a donor for me. I've thought about embryo adoption for the reason that it might limit the amount of siblings my child has, but most embryo adoption organizations are run by extreme Christians and don't allow single women to receive embryos anyway.

No. 411359

I have to take my baby on both an airplane, and a long train ride this week. She’s 4 months old. Are there any tips for bringing her to these places? I’ve never traveled far with her before, and I’m terrified of being the mom with a baby who won’t stop crying.

No. 411371

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We need to tar and feather the corpse of whichever shit for brains started the idea that women should wear dresses. And the one who came up with the idea that parenting is women's work, that is also bullshit. Both parents need to be involved!

I stocked up on cute dresses during pregnancy because my fetus would get upset when I wore jeans but now that my fetus is nearing toddlehood I realize that the optimal mommy outfit is a baggy oversized shirt, leggings and sneakers. All the e-tradwives with perfect hair and floofy dresses are larpers with no kids.

No. 411379

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4chan trad memes get funnier after you give birth. They're so disconnected from reality.

- How does she have the time to make meals and be active while taking care of a newborn?

-How does she have the time to homeschool her kids on top of all the other chores while caring for a newborn?

-How does she still look like an Instagram model after birthing and parenting several kids? Her genes must be top tier, it's very common to gain weight during pregnancy and there's no time to do your hair when you need to go take care of a baby.

-the incels making these memes think women with no makeup are ugly

And then there's the insane racism. It's good that whoever made this will never have sex because they would have a panic attack if they became a parent.

No. 411380

>>411379
Lol the woman on the left looks like stanzi.

No. 411416

>>411357
Nightlight.org allows single women!

No. 411463

>>411379
kek
as usual, men are clueless about how much work raising children is, especially boys.
my sister is regretting her choice to go tradwife and finally enrolled my nephew into preschool. she only has ONE child and she's always stressed out. she rarely cooks food, it's either ubereats or a microwave meal because if she loses track of my nephew for 30 seconds, the little shit will somersault into the tv or do something equally stupid and destructive.
my sister complains about losing her figure all the time. before having her son, she was a size 0 and has since gone up to 4. far from obese, but it really impacted her self-esteem. part of the reason why she finally enrolled him in school is so she can go back to the gym again.

No. 411473

>>411379
Moids don't know women do they? it's tatted up alt women who are getting married, popping out kids before 30, sewing all clothes, cooking all meals, etc. the "goodie church girl" type women who wait til their 30s and focus on their career (as they should) before getting serious.

No. 411474

My 2 year old just got diagnosed with autism. Guess she’s more like me than I expected kek. It doesn’t look like the full blown retard autism, but she’s got a few developmental delays that are gonna make her slower than other kids. For example, she can speak, but only in 2-3 word sentences (“give water” and “mommy, need fruit”). I’m shocked that I didn’t notice her symptoms earlier, because she acts exactly the same way I did as a baby, and I’m super autistic

No. 411483

>>411379
>It's good that whoever made this will never have sex because they would have a panic attack if they became a parent.
Unfortunately since it's men making those things, they will never have a moment of understanding even if they do have kids - they will just enforce these expectations on their wife and blame her if she doesn't stay skinny/feminine after giving birth.

No. 411624

I posted in vent but it's relevant here.
I'm 31 weeks pregnant and took some nice photos of my husband and I. I posted one on my Facebook to update my family and I finally got the meme question of "are you sure there's not 2 in there?".
Logically I know it shouldn't hurt my feelings but it has. I don't know what to reply to it.
It makes me not want to update the rest of the family on the pregnancy at all. I don't know how much is just hormones. Sad.
It's my grandma who wrote it and it isn't the first time she's made odd comments here or there to neg me. It's really disappointing.

No. 411701

>>411047
Those women have a brain infection, pay them no mind.

No. 411704

>>411083
The quality of donors at sperm banks, even if they're not straight up lying about them, is abysmally low to begin with. They're all old and typically unattractive. There have to be some sperm banks that operate based on actual genetic quality though.

No. 411747

>>411704
Yes but then you’d be breeding for narcissism.

No. 411773

>>411747
You'd be breeding for narcissism by using a regular sperm bank, except the narcissists will be fug. The very idea of sperm donation self-selects for donors who by default have an inflated idea of their worth and think their mid genes are a gift to the world.

No. 411779

>>411704
After reading about that one sperm bank that sold 50 IQ Somalian sperm and lied about who the donor was I would only trust someone I knew in real life to do it and verify it.

No. 411782

>>411779
I'll never forget that one white lesbian couple that were given a black man's sperm by "mistake". They got laughed out of the courtroom because it's "racist" to care about negligence, and ridiculed ceaselessly in the press for years. Because of this case it's virtually impossible to hold a sperm bank accountable for doing anything, they could give you retard cancer sperm and the judge's response would be "are you calling your baby a mistake?"

No. 412011

im thinking about having children at some point in my thirties when im more established and earning twice. but the thing is i'd prefer to be a single mom and have a baby via IVF or something. dating has been hard for me and i realized men piss me the fuck off too much.

No. 412169

I hate the idea that c-sections are some kind of cheap, easy way out for women giving birth, because they are absolutely not. That incision is extremely deep, and it’s hard to care for the wound while also caring for a newborn. I think the traddies like to just brag about how they can do it the natural way.

No. 412177

>>412169
Not a mom, but I agree. The recovery for c sections seems way worse than vaginal births. Its like people forget it's a surgical procedure, not magically removing the baby from your body.

No. 412755

File: 1720414536182.jpg (233.89 KB, 576x864, Elon_Musk.jpg)

Why are there no sperm banks with confirmed high achiever sperm? There's plenty of successful men out there like pic related who want to spread their genes without having to raise their kids. This seems like a big hole in the market.

No. 412758

>>412755
Post paid for by Elon Musk

No. 413085

>>412755
Elons swimmers don't work. He needs IVF to get women pregnant each time. Imagine having to pay for something most humans can do naturally. I don't want that shit in my gene pool

No. 413086

>>412169
This but with anything really. Formula feeding, working vs staying at home, etc. regardless of what women do as mothers you'll be labeled as lazy, not trying hard enough, doing something wrong, etc

No. 413089

>>412755
>high achiever
This isn't of value when it comes to offspring unless the moid is providing for his children. How does having money or social status help with the quality of sperm? We need beautiful and healthly men to donate, not greasy dumpy pigs like Elon.

No. 413538

>>412011
If you can't tolerate (?) even any man in the world, please do not have a child. If you can't be with an adult who loves you, how you're going to be able to do the self sacrifices needed to be with a small child and then bigger child etc. You're not just buying a baby you're dedicating at least two decades of your life to raise a full human being. These selfish posts of "I'll just buy a baby as accessory to my life" are just plain awful. You're no different from those gay scrotes that exploit some poor women w surrogacy.
Not to mention the fact that a child needs both a mother and a father in order to thrive.

No. 413539

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No. 413553

>>413538
Lmao you’re not being very subtle.

No. 413555

>>413553
Yeah it's bait to point out if you dont have the patience to deal with an adult you're gonna deal with nightly blowouts, toddler tantrums, and later hearing by your teen that they hate you etc just perfectly fine. Tired of this modern day cringe meme idea to act like having kids is like getting a fucking pet.

No. 413573

>>413555
Noooo, you have to have a man living in your house, then you get all of the above plus stumbling on Nigel’s CP stash someday nooooooo

No. 413575

>>413538
Men who fucking hate women have babies all the time. Shut the fuck up pickme whore.

No. 413577

>>413555
Husband =/= kids, it's really not hard to understand.

No. 413600

Have any anons here done egg freezing?

No. 413835

>>413538
Nta but as someone with 3 under 2 I'd rather deal with toddlers and kids than most moids kek

No. 413895

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Since it seems to be the topic of discussion right now, I do honestly think that two parent households are super important for children but I disagree that it has to be a man. It's probably just me projecting because I only had one active parent who was abusive towards me, but I think it's important to have two parents. Especially so they have one to lean on if the other becomes unreliable. Not to mention it's beneficial, mentally and emotionally, for the actual parents (IF your partner is good) because dividing the childrearing takes a lot of pressure off, opposed to being a single parent. It's not about having a male figure though, it can be a male or female as long as they're a good partner and parent.
Another thought, I see a lot of discussions on social media these days of people emphasizing the importance of a having a village to help you raise your child. I honestly can see things like co-parenting with friends becoming more popular in the near future for those who are single mothers or don't want a romantic relationship.

No. 413967

>>413895
Agreed. People also like to assume just cause the father is "there" doesn't mean he's present. They praise men for being workaholics (in situations that it's unnecessary), they praise men for going out with friends every weekend because "he deserves it" but treat women like they're feeding their kids to wolves if they go out once a month, if he goes back to school or to the gym it's great that he's improving himself but mom shouldn't be a narcissist if she does the same. Women are conditioned to put children above everything. If it were more common, id like to see a comparison on how children are raised in a mommune as compared to a nuclear family

No. 414163

>>412169
Related but I hate the amount of Americans I see advocating against proper pain relief during and after birth, especially for c sections. I see so many American women brag about how "I just took an ibuprofen, returned to work and did everything myself 4 days later and I was fine!" Like ??? Fucking excuse me? Only Americans would be this fucking retarded to try to shut down discussions to IMPROVE postpartum care holy shit

No. 414275

>>394660
Hey nonas excuse the newfag here (don't know if I should sage this) but I'm coming here for some advice on just knowing when you're ready to have kids really, I'm 24 and I've said I deffo want kids before reaching 40 (my mum had my younger sibling at 40 and I could never poor kid) but like when do I know I'm ready coz everyone I've ever met just says "you'll just know" and I just don't buy that. Anyway before I ramble too much any help and advice would be amazing and thank you in advance nonas

No. 414296

>>414275
I guess it's different for the person but I would've had a child already if I was financially stable, owned a house, and had a partner who shared my values on parenting. Some women I know have said it took them until they were in their 30s to even want children but for me personally, I have always loved being around kids and dreamed of having a family. Unfortunately I fucked up my life by being a shut-in NEET for years and who knows if it will ever happen.

No. 414356

>>414296
I feel that, I got dealt a really bad hand in life meaning only now am I getting my life somewhat togther (I won't go into it obvi) but like I'm just so scared that time is running out for me to have them. Then my boyfriend isn't even decided on them either at least that's the side of him flipping back and forth about it. I just don't wanna be 50 with a 10 year old esspecially seeing it with my mum and younger sibling

No. 414368

>>414356
I personally would be really suspicious of anyone who's "undecided" on kids. I really don't think anyone should have children unless they really want them and are ready to make all the necessary sacrifices it entails. Dads that are just along for the ride are going to be the ones that don't pull their weight and be reminiscing constantly on how great their life was before kids. Anyway, I'm at a similar age to you and I've thought before about freezing my eggs because I've heard it's best to do that while you're still young, but as of right now I just can't afford it.

No. 414387

>>414368
Yeah obviously I'm not gonna have kids with this man unless he's decided he wants them and if not guess no kids for me I just wish he would make his mind up so we can be on the same page about it i just wanna know what to expect of our future coz like i see myself marrying this man (hes somehow a good one among the moids). And yeah same boat not enough money to freeze any eggs if I wanted to.

No. 414489

>severe tachycardia
>Expected to work and take care of a toddler despite the fact I feel like I'm having a heart attack for standing up for more than 5 minutes
"That's normal and we can't give you anything for it"
>Acid reflux, can't sleep, severe pain and can't eat
"That's normal just take time"
>Severe migraines, can't feel comfortable for the life of me
"That's normal"

I swear to God I can be in a grave and they'd say "that's normal". Why do women even do this multiple times with such awful healthcare?

No. 414497

>>414387
Don't wait around for a man. Try to find someone who does feel ready to have children in the near future. One of my biggest regrets in my life is wasting so many years in dead-end relationships when I could've found someone to build a real future with.

No. 414520

>>414497
Tbf im not ready to have kids for a few years yet, not gonna go into details but I'm planning on going back to school after life shit and I have a bad past with men so my boyfriend is honestly a sait by comparison. I have a couple years at least before I'd be ready myself like I'm not in a rush I just wanna have at least 1 before I'm 40 idealy 2 but we will see what life brings I guess. I just wanna know how people know they're actually ready, idk if I'm making sense

No. 416070

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>>409651
My toddler is going through a "ghost" stage and will beg for ghosts, randomly say things like 'green ghost". Recently we made play dough ghosts so now Everytime she wants to play with play dough she just goes "more ghosts, more ghosts". Without context I'd move ASAP(AI outside of containment thread)

No. 416073

>>395081
>>395081
Currently dealing with this now. Spent the moment I woke up to the moment I went to sleep cleaning, cooking, making healthy meals, doing fun activities, taking my kid out, etc. never feels like enough or like I failed as a parent. It's like nothing you ever do is enough regardless of how hard you work, you can damn near kill yourself for your children and it will never be enough. I know it's all propaganda, but the amount of people who fell for the propaganda brainwashing and continue pedaling it with no compensation is absolutely insane

No. 416299

>>411047
>these boymoms just pity me
that's disgusting all moms should love their babies no matter if it is a boy or a girl. I don't get the rivalry, is it caused by misogny? Having a girl is no less than having a boy but it seems society cheers up boy moms more because boys are seen as "easier" to raise and more "important"

No. 416753

>>411379
i think the homeschool wave is really dangerous, it is extremely important for your child to be educated by someone who knows how to help children build their comprehension skills but i completely understand how so many millennials/zoomers feel like homeschooling is the better option because of what they all experienced in sub-par education systems, especially during the pandemic

No. 416838

>>416753
what if the school tries to make your kid into a troon?

No. 416972

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>>416753
I personally sent my children to private school because of law regulations completely fucking up public schools. Most of the main issues with public schools don't apply for private
Common core being a huge issue
irrational amounts of homework for young children
"zero tolerance" policies which is why zoomers have become so off on telling whos wrong and right
"write ups" and discipline over things that don't matter but not disciplining kids over things they absolutely should

No. 416989

>>416753
Eh, I think it's safer than some public schools. In some areas public schools are so short on teachers they have to rely on long term substitutes (aka randos with no training) or they just let the children hang out in the gymnasium doing nothing for some time. At this point I think certain public schools should just be relabeled babysitting centers.

>>416972
At least discipline happens in your area. Over here I heard the shitty schools just let the kids do whatever they want with no repercussions and they get passed to the next grade even if they skip school constantly and do no homework.

No. 417011

>>416989
Discipline is more damaging if you're only disciplining good/normal behaviors but doing nothing about bad behaviors

No. 418075

File: 1721833411377.jpg (18.61 KB, 640x480, 1576771927088.jpg)

I thought I'd have a couple more weeks until my 2nd trimester energy disappeared…nonnies, I'm slipping away…

No. 418097

>>414163
It's often moids larping to use those women as an example to push the "no excuses" idea on other women to immediately keep the house spotless, go to work, have sex and everything else immediately after child birth. There's a reason why you only see vague/blank accounts claiming to be female swearing up and down they totally had no pain after birth and didn't do postpartum care and had sex in the hospital and everything else, yet even people who are around postpartum women regularly never see it

No. 418213

>>418075
hang in there. you'll get to the other side in time

No. 418249

>>412755
Most known genes for intelligence are X-linked. Selecting for abstract "high achievement" is silly and dysgenic as it depends on a myriad of non-innate factors, like Daddy's emerald mine for example. Optimal choice is looks+health.

No. 418270

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Help, I can't stop eating all my baby's food

No. 418292

>>418249
This but the "high achiever" genes you're looking for are in legitimate "rags to riches" men. This would also be ideal since poor people are less likely to have health issues, so they inherit the intelligence of getting rich and the good health that poor people need to survive with lack of affordable healthcare.

The thing is - you're not gonna find these sorts of men being billionaires or in New York penthouses, most of these are mid successful tier like business owners, doctors, CEOs, etc

No. 418320

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>>418270
I understand you nonna. Whenever I give a few of these to my daughter, I end up taking one or two for myself. I can’t help that they made them so tasty

No. 418322

>>418249
More on this? I couldn’t find any information it seems pretty contentious

No. 418459

>>418292
Being a "high achiever" is too abstract, nona. What genes could potentially be described as "high achievement" linked? Off the top of my head - probably something having to do with interpersonal competition, social defeat stress resistance, maybe machiavellianism? Task persistence? Really depends on the field and the type of society you're trying to achieve in. Apart from that, the same genes can conceivably result in delinquency if one of the million conditioning-related variables goes wrong, plus most genes are pleiotropic. So if I were to paint a very rudimentary picture: let's say - instead of a super driven high earning surgeon/lawyer you end up with a psychopathic druggie that cuts up stray cats for fun.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to shoot for those genes regardless. But measures like beauty and physical health are absolute, self evident and not dependent on social context, so imo sacrificing them for uncertain "high achievement" is unwise.

No. 418563

>>418459
Most high achiever moids (that aren't handed positions by connections/already rich) are typically engaging, able to handle high stress, intelligent, good memory, attentive, etc.

Of course the moid who treats going to his call centre job like hes going to war won't make a suitable partner, moids who are out all weekend aren't good

No. 418882

34 weeks pregnant.
Baby hasnt done the usual movements in over a week. I could lay down and he would kick my side, my husband would sleep with his hand on my stomach and feel him kicking as we fell asleep.
He would bulge my belly on the side (anterior placenta), I could see him kicking if I stared at my belly.

Went to the ER on Monday about it, heart rate was fine, gave me a referral for a growth scan the following Monday. Told me to come back if the movements dont improve/decrease again.

Tuesday the movements improved, not back to where they were but he was kicking every now and then. Not 10 in 2 hours like they say to count, but enough I was thinking maybe it was just a bad few days.

Wednesday I had my 34 week midwife visit. Heart rate was fine, measuring fine, baby was decreasing a bit but still moving enough not to have had me worried.

Thursday there was hardly anything, a few pressing movements but no kicking.
Friday (today) woke up, drank something sugary to see if that would help, he didnt move at all over the next few hours, went to the ER again at 3pm.
Heart rate was fine. Told me to come in in the morning to be checked again by their clinic so thats what I'm going to do. Dr said they would send me the referral document, they havent. I guess I'll just show up?

Hes currently moving now but again its just pressing movements not kicks like they keep telling me he should be doing. I think hes kicked once since coming back from the hospital nearly 10 hours ago.

My coworker birthed a braindead baby because bub had an oxygen issue in the womb. She went to the ER multiple times and was sent home saying bub was fine. It was preventable and the baby only lived a handful of days.
Trying not to stress out, I know it should be fine.
Its just so hard when everything online and drs tell me he should be moving X amount and hes just not.

No. 418907

>>418882
Maternal healthcare in the US is absolute shit. What I did is go to different hospitals until somebody does something. Are they monitoring the growth? Can you check the flow of the placenta and cord?

No. 418924

>>418907
I'm in Australia. They measured my stomach at my midwife appointment Wednesday and again today and he's measuring perfectly. The fluid also is apparently good. I have a growth scan Monday. He's moving around still so hoping it's just been a fluke, though it's not kicks just him wriggling. They listened to the placenta (?) And checked the blood flow but didn't tell me either way, she was too busy talking to the other dr/training person. I would assume if there was something wrong there she would have told me..? Maybe? Just feeling a bit defeated and tired now.

No. 418960

Anyone feel so isolated and like everything you do is wrong? I've almost completely isolated myself, stopped going to doctors appointments, etc just due to extreme judgement as a mother. Judgement wouldn't be an issue if people also don't get CPS involved while judging. If my toddler acts like a toddler in my public is my fault and I'm doing something wrong as a mother, if I go out without my kid then I'm also bad because how dare I expect help and I should just raise my own kids and who knows what the person could be doing with my kid.
>Inb4 your partner!!
Most people's partners work. I've only been able to go out with my partner only because people are way less judgemental with fathers

No. 418964

>>418882
>>418924
>It was preventable
Then you should demand to have the procedure done in which they can determine if your baby is suffering from that or not. If you're not sure if that might be the cause of your baby being inactive then demand to see another doctor (it's usually within your rights in most countries with commiecare) until you get answers and/or tests done. You should be very demanding and preferably take a family member with you who knows how to make a ruckus. It's the only way commiecare doctors listen, otherwise they won't get arsed to check on depth on your baby. So demand demand demand to see a doctor until one listens and actually does something!

No. 419288

>>418960
This sounds like pretty bad anxiety tbh. You should consider seeing someone about it so you don't have to live like this.

No. 419301

>my grandmas weight as a baby: 7 lbs 5 oz
>my moms weight as a baby: 7lbs 8oz
>my weight as a baby: 7 lbs 9 oz
>my brothers weight as a baby: 8 lbs 11 oz
>sperm donors weight as a baby: 6 lbs 10 oz
>my baby that was born today: 10 lbs 11 os
I had to get a C section because her big watermelon head just wasn’t progressing at all. Still have no idea how she got this big.

No. 419311

>>419288
It's anxiety but it's unfortunately reality for a lot of mothers especially those with toddlers that act like toddlers

No. 419358

>>418882
>>418924
baby is getting bigger with less room to flip and kick, especially if they have started to descend into the pelvis. with that being said, remain vigilant in counting kicks/presses, and noticing how baby reacts to meals and other stimuli. i've been placing headphones on the belly and listening to music usually gets her moving around. with that being said i have noticed a slight decrease in fetal activity and a noticable decrease in movement intensity too (36w). i'm used to waking up to her rough housing my insides, but a few mornings ago it took about an hour after drinking juice and eating fruit to feel movement. a terrifying nap.

No. 419361

>>419301
Congrats on your absolute unit nonna

No. 419390

>>419361
I wonder if she’s gonna be a unit as an adult. My family isn’t really super tall (tallest man is 5’10”), and donor was a 5’2” Chinese manlet because my wife is short and we wanted similar traits.

No. 419484

>>419358
>with that being said x2
pregnancy brain is no joke

No. 419485

>>419301
Congratz nonna! Enjoy your chubby little one and I wish you a speedy recovery!
>>418964
I was hooked up and monitored in the er and again yesterday, I have a growth scan tomorrow to check how bubs going. They tell me everything is fine. They did an ultrasound, he is breathing, heart is beating, cord is good.
Yesterday he has been moving more as well as today.
>>419358
See thats what I thought too but each midwife visit theyve hammered into me that any change is worth coming in for, that its an old wives tale that they decrease in movements, that it should stay consistent. Hes been wriggling around alot yesterday and today but no actual kicking like he was a week ago.
They basically said to me yesterday without saying it that what I'm feeling is normal and not worth coming in for, but legally they cant directly say that so they danced around the topic.
My husband asked directly "We keep being told if he doesnt move for hours to come in, is that what we are meant to do still?" and was met with alot of "uhh well uhhh yes I suppose".
I just hope going forward he keeps this amount of movement so I dont have to deal with it again.
He would wake me up with his movements too and affect me actually sleeping because when I would lay down he would go to down kicking around, now he doesnt.

No. 419784

Hey nonnies, did any of you experience a sensitivity to progesterone prior to conceiving? If so how did it affect you during pregnancy and postpartum? I believe I have an extreme sensitivity to progesterone that makes me mentally unstable if not treated. I am unable to take many BC options because of it. I would like to have kids in the future, but I worry about the effects on my health given my history.

No. 420006

Entering a picky eater phase with my two year old. She refuses to eat anything that isn’t grilled cheese sandwiches, plain white rice, or plain bow tie pasta with olive oil. She won’t eat the grilled cheese unless it’s a very specific brand of cheese and bread. She also won’t eat pasta that isn’t bow tie, even if it’s prepared the same. On really bad days, she’ll refuse to eat these too, and I have to supplement with pumped breast milk. It’s not like I don’t try to introduce her to new foods, but she hates them, and I’m not gonna cram the food down her throat. Just exhausted right now. I also have a newborn and my milk supply is going three times as fast, because my daughter wants to drink her sisters milk.

No. 420025

>>420006
there's recipes to sneak in various veggies and fruits, zucchini brownies is a good example but there's pastas and sauces you can make with veggies in it or trying breads with veggies

No. 420040

>>420025
This is an amazing concept, but I was being literal with my words. She will not eat anything that isn’t those three meals. No interest in candy, cookies, or anything that it’d be easy to hide veggies in. I tried switching the bread in her grilled cheese to whole wheat, she refused to eat that sandwich after taking one bite. It’s insane to say, but I wish my toddler was craving sweets, because I’d be able to hide healthy things in her food. But everything she eats is so plain, it’d be obvious I’m hiding something

No. 420051

>>420006
>She won’t eat the grilled cheese unless it’s a very specific brand of cheese and bread
Kek I laugh because both my kids also did this. Totally normal and just something you have to ride out. You can always give her a multivitamin if you’re worried about nutrition. They make a liquid kind you can just pour into a spoon or medicine cup/plunger. But in the long run it’s really not going to affect much.

Foods with too much taste or texture can be a lot on toddler brains. Also foods that look too “busy” can be a turn off. Plain noodles? Yes. Noodles with sauce? Too colorful. White bread is very bland. Wheat bread has a bit of a tang. Try to introduce more plain boring foods.

No. 420136

>>420006
I think you definitely should start by just trying to have her eat things that are just slightly out of her comfort zone, like different pasta shapes or a different brand of white bread, or other foods that are very bland like oatmeal, potatoes, cornmeal, and then slowly work your way up to things like veggies or fruit. But don't feed her the exact same thing every day, she has to understand that it's normal for the type of food offered to change even if it's only slight changes.

No. 420502

Why are walking CPS calls always the first ones to open their mouths about other people's parenting? It's always some shit like "wow your 2 yr old cried in public once you are a terrible mother! Clearly there's something extremely wrong with you!" And then like a month later you find out they've been giving their child crack or something

No. 420658

>>419784
I also believe I have progesterone sensitivity as I always have really bad PMS bordering on PMDD. During both of my pregnancies the horrible luteal phase feeling persisted throughout, and I only realized how depressed I was during pregnancy after giving birth. Post partum was a breeze, like a veil had been lifted and I could enjoy life again.

No. 420695

anyone have bad experiences with NPs but good experiences with doctors? my office doesn't allow you to choose who you see so it is random with each visit. everytime I voiced concerns I had with NPs I kept getting hit with "that's normal""I'm not running tests" and just lack of care in general. I finally saw an actual doctor for the first time in months and explained my concerns (chest pain, breech, growth issues, etc) and was immidietly given an ultra sound, blood tests, and referred to specialties, etc

No. 420727

how do I undo the internet/general society from ruining my motherhood experience? it just feels like everything I do is wrong regardless of how hard I try

No. 421058

I can't fucking do shit I can't barely fucking piss without feeling like I'm having a god damn heart attack. Can't get help cause "that's normal" NO ITS NOT FUCKING NORMAL you stupid fucking cunts. "Well we usually prescribe this for tachycardia but you should do x y and z which will take a few weeks or months teehee" then why the fuck can't you prescribe me what the fuck I need? My fucking house is a mess and my toddler ends up hurting herself once a week because I fucking collapse anytime I try to WALK. No one can't grasp how fucking dangerous this is because everyone is so so obsessed with punishing pregnant women and I can't ask for help because "don't have kids you can't take care of" or whatever. I'm so so fucking close to just offing myself and giving up my baby to the fire station

No. 421236

>>420695
NPs don't receive adequate training for the level of independence they're given, sometimes with awful or deadly results. The subreddit /r/noctor catalogues it.

For US nonnies who are pregnant or want to eventually be pregnant, I'd recommend trying to find a practice that still allows you to see a doctor. Same for family medicine/GPs too.
>>421058
Can you get a second opinion? Either way, I hope things get better for you quickly.

No. 421786

>>420727
Stop engaging with all the bozos. If it's an irl person just tell them less or be vague. Easier said than done but deleting all my social media accounts and just parenting off of vibes/following medical guidance/googling when i have a problem is working for me so far. My baby is still young though

No. 421917

>>420727
You'll have crack addicts who give their babies Gatorade in a bottle telling you you're doing a shit job at parenting. You'll have malicious old women telling you that you need to spank your kid with a belt, and then tell you to be forgiving and gentle if you raise your voice at the kid. Nothing is ever enough for them, their fun comes from making other women feel like shit.
But why do you care about other parents' opinions? What does your kid want? Other parents might spend a down payment for a house on their baby's 1st birthday party, but maybe your own baby wants to eat wrapping paper and smear frosting all over the table and herself instead. Maybe other parents practice DBT and guided meditation with their toddlers when they have tantrums in public, but you might have more success if you promise an ice cream if he behaves. Social media is performative and at the end of the day mommy vloggers are doing this to make money. Ragebait brings in big bucks, whether it's spending a small fortune to celebrate every minor holiday, being a simpering bitch for the camera, buying the most expensive shit possible 'on a budget' when it's obvious that nobody on a budget will spend that much on a pram, or being a deliberately shitty parent to encourage comments. Nothing you see online is genuine. You're never going to live up to manufactured standards.
You're doing fine. Those other kids online are much happier than your kid because they're being ordered by their momager to look excited.

No. 421940

>>421917
>You'll have crack addicts who give their babies Gatorade in a bottle telling you you're doing a shit job at parenting.
This. I know so many people irl and I'll catch them parent shaming over the most menial things meanwhile the don't even have custody of their children or they don't even have kids. Neurodivergent Nate on tt for example who makes daily tiktoks shaming mothers for anything under the sun but can't hold down a teaching job cause he's so shitty with children. Like why are we trusting these people for child care again?

No. 421944

i want to be a mom but i have a very strong disgust of babies and infants .i really don't like their noises and am deeply disgusted by the concept of breastfeeding. What do I do to like babies/cope with it? I would really like to have children someday as I love children above the age of four. I know that it will take time and patience to deal with them. Any suggestions?

No. 421994

>>421944
Maybe adopt older children?

No. 421996

>>421940
Jesus, I hate that faggot so much. I get him on my feed every now and then for shaming parents who put their kids in actual danger, but if you follow him, you realize that most of his takes are retarded as fuck. Saw him complain once about a teenage girl being friendly with her mom because “kids shouldn’t be that casual with parents” fuck you man, I’m not running a dictatorship. Obviously I’m not gonna let her insult me, but I don’t gaf if she calls another kid a faggot while we’re alone

No. 422010

>>421944
I've heard women who had the same issues as you and they got over it when they had their own children, maybe the same would happen to you? I

No. 422012

>>421996
Kek I remember him claiming a mom was traumatizing her kids for paying the oldest to watch the youngest. Like it's fucking traumatizing to have a job? It's traumatizing to have the option to babysit your sibling for pay? And then of course you'll never fucking believe he won't say a single word about fathers flinging their kids around, leaving their kids with random women they found off of tinder and everything else, nope just moms

No. 422335

>>414163
It's a pickme thing. There's a tradthot thread in snow of women claiming to have orgasms and crap when giving birth

No. 422346

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Is it weird that I really envy Hannah Neeleman? I mean, not exactly because her husband seems like a weird control freak. I just wish I was married to some cowboy hat wearing congressman from Kentucky and we would have a hundred gorillion bazillion kids.

No. 422349

>>421944
Noises like screaming? Noise cancelling headphones. Breastfeeding? You could pump or use formula.

I find that most of the "yucky" things about babies stop feeling so yucky once you really understand why they happen. Like, after you've watched a newborn struggle to learn how to fart it's hard not to feel proud of them when they successfully poo with no hassle. Same thing with noises.. every new noise is something you're proud of them for because it's a new skill.

No. 422376

>>422349
They make great discreet ear plugs these days. I had to buy a pair when my 2 yr old was sleeping in my bed while he was sick and grinding his teeth. The sound made me want to die.
I think they were called loops

No. 422389

>>422346
I feel like no one has that many children because you actually like children. If you care about kids, you want to have enough time to let each if them get lots of individual attention and that's why you usually see horrible child abuse and parentification in large families. People with a fuckton of kids are usually either religious crazies (Duggars, ballerina farms) or insane narcissists (Mia Farrow, Hilaria Baldwin) who collect children like pokemon to stroke their own egos.

No. 422399

>>422346
see this is what gets me. there's plenty of women who'd be happy to be a farm wife with millions of children yet he chooses a woman who clearly didn't want that life. Not the first time these moids coerce a city career gal into tradism either

No. 422407

>>422346
Yes, you are weird for that.

No. 422432

>>421058
Where's the Dad? Or your or his parents? Its not wrong to ask for help. It takes a village, don't be too prideful to ask someone to please come over and clean while you watch and play with your little one and get some rest together. Sending power.

No. 422434

Everywhere I keep seeing that you shouldn't be giving a baby bottle to more than 18 months old. My little daughter is almost two now and drinks two 300ml ones a day with cow milk, for her nap and at night to sleep. She absolutely refuses to drink more than a few sips from her sippy cup or normal glass. If I cut out the bottle there's no way to get her to drink this quantity, let alone fall asleep while drinking it. Especially in this summer heat I dont want to risk her going dehydrated, so wtf. Do I risk that its supposedly bad for the teeth? Is it that bad for them even? Cause her speech keeps improving nonetheless.

No. 422437

>>422432
dad is around but he does work 40 hours a week and his parents are the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps, shouldnt have had kids if you cant raise them" type. I had to stop asking for help because they screamed at me when husband helped me during a blow out

No. 422440

>>422434
Milk sitting on the teeth at night will rot the teeth, regardless if it’s breastmilk or cow or formula. If you’re worried about the shifting teeth thing, their teeth go back to normal. Never used a bottle for my kids but my son used a pacifier and had the weird arched teeth. They were fine after a few months.
If you’re worried about rot, give her water in the bottle at bed time. Do what works for you. Sometimes letting them pick out their new cup, or whatever, helps.

No. 422469

I could be giving birth tomorrow or in 2 weeks and am scared out of my mind. Please tell me it is not that bad?

No. 422641

>>422469
on the same boat anon. due date came and went and I have no signs of giving birth whatsoever

No. 423206

How and when did you find out you were pregnant? Signs and symptoms?

No. 423263

I am so scared nonnies. I will update this in a month if it turns out I am pregnant. Basically my boyfriend and I had the condom rip and we had this bright idea to go a few times and get plan B the next day. I took it within the 48 hours but not right away. I said I would like to get an abortion if it turns out I am and he is saying to keep it instead because if its meant to be its meant to be. He would be doing school long distance from me when I would have the baby so I would be alone in the last 4 months of the pregnancy. And alone for the first 2 months of the birth. I never pictured myself living like that. I live in a studio currently and I can't afford a one bedroom without him, let alone a two bedroom until he's out of school. I'm so stuck and sad. I always wanted to be a mother but not like this. I am too young. I am only 23. I don't even know if I should tell him if I am pregnant and just get an abortion by myself.

No. 423273

>>423263
Don’t tell him. Sorry, but it’s not fair for him to say keep it and then leave you alone during the most critical and important moments. Huge red flag right there.

No. 423286

>>423263
Are you going to ruin your life because a stupid fucking moid had an idea? And such a wonderful idea that involves him pursuing his education while you go fuck yourself alone with a newborn?
Just don't be stupid and go get an abortion. Don't tell him if you don't want to. He's a selfish retard apparently, so his opinion doesn't matter. At least one of you needs to think about YOU, and it clearly isn't going to be him.

No. 423289

>>423263
as other anons have said, it is your life and your decision. if you want to get an abortion you should do that, and don't tell him if you don't want to. early miscarriages are common too so it's not hard to cover up. but I would consider leaving if my partner made such a selfish suggestion. you said you don't want it and he's not only not accepting that, but also suggesting you live a very stressful and scary new parent life ALONE while he follows his dreams. I'd be questioning if he wanted what's best for me, let alone us as a couple, or even what's best for the child. it sounds like he just wants what's best for him. if you're not ready you're not ready. pregnancy is a huge decision to pressure someone into. if he won't take a no then please take a hard look at him as a partner and as a person.

No. 423298

>>423263
Are you an idiot? Why are you listening to him? It’s your fucking body and life. Christ.

No. 423301

>>423263
>He would be doing school long distance from me when I would have the baby
>I live in a studio
>I am only 23
Oh hell no anon, this is a terrible situation to bring a child into. The fact you even made this post means you already know what you should do. You don't have to keep the abortion a secret, but get it anyway and if he's mad about it then fuck him.

No. 423307

>>423263
For the love of God don't do it. Just don't tell him. If you keep it he will leave, I guarantee it, men always say to keep it because they never have to deal with the actual consequences of having a child, which would ruin both your life and the child's life (take it from me, as the child born to a young mother and deadbeat dad). Have a child when you are absolutely ready to be a good mother.

No. 423312

>>423263
The studio isnt a problem, but him fucking off for 4 months is. If you do keep the baby he needs to postpone his studies and support you so you. Since you want an abortion I dont think you should tell him, its not his call.

No. 423320

Turns out I've had GBS since my urine test in June, I had multiple midwife visits between then and now and noone told me. The dr visit this week I had mentioned it in passing, I pulled her up on it and she said "oh noone told you?". No, noone fucking told me. Makes me wonder what else I've not been told about. I've complained way earlier in this thread that I've not been happy with my care early in on pregnancy, and now this has shattered the trust I had for the place I'm giving birth at.
I know shit happens, but since JUNE? And I had seen 3 different midwives and noone told me?

People say its not a "big deal" but I feel disgusting and unclean.
If my water breaks I have to go straight into hospital to be given antibiotics so it doesnt pass to baby. I just feel awful.

No. 423376

>>423206
I found out at the beginning of week 5, but I could sense that I was pregnant much sooner due to a metallic taste in my mouth, sore boobs, and falling asleep easily at night (I have terrible insomnia)
>>423263
Luckily the chance that you'll end up pregnant from this is quite low. You'd be in for a rough time if you kept it under these circumstances, though.

No. 423466

>>423263
He needs to get a job and be there for you. I believe you can make it and work towards building a beautiful family. You might live to regret killing your offspring and then struggle with fertility afterwards too. But you need absolute support and him to be present and be a provider. You should set this as an ultimatum for you to carry your child

No. 423494

>>423466
>killing your offspring
>struggle with fertility after abortion
this reeks of moid

>>423263
don't listen to the poster above nonna. you alone should be able to make that choice for yourself. imo though, having a kid should be well planned (both financially and the proper timing) and from the sound of it your situation isn't exactly ideal for having a child. also unless you are 100% fine with being a single mom, you really shouldn't be having a kid with any moid. your moid sound irresponsible and you should assume that if you do end up choosing to have his child you and you alone will be responsible for all of it. i also vote to not do it.

No. 423791

>>423466
Abortion does not cause infertility. What an awful thing to tell someone. If she’s pregnant after a condom break and a plan b, chances are she isn’t struggling with fertility issues at it is.

>>423263
Please listen to what most anons are telling you. You literally have more than a decade to plan for a baby. Don’t jump into something you KNOW you’re not ready for with a moid who clearly doesn’t give a shit.

No. 423798

>>423791
This, especially early abortions which are simply just taking a pill to miscarry, and if miscarrying decreased your chances of fertility then there'd be like zero people on earth since most women who are active have had miscarriages, a lot of the time without even realizing it

No. 423863

i think one of my favorite parts about being a parent is knowing how much better i am at it than my mom. looking back, my mom was miserable and i believe she's too much of a narc to actually love anyone except herself. she just had children because my dad wanted them and she liked the idea of being a mom. i love spoiling my kid and doing basically the exact opposite of what my parents did. for example, i cried very easily as a child and my mom would scream at me to 'stop crying' or would accuse me of fake crying or trying to be 'cute'. but when my son is crying me and my husband taught him to take deep breaths to help him calm down (i used to hyperventilate from crying so hard). it's so cute watching him take big shaky breaths as he regulates.

No. 424340

>>423863
This is a great point, a lot of people keep forgetting how God awful previous generations were as parents
>But but teachers are quitting!!
Kids have always acted like little shits, if anything they were worse back in the day we just didn't have the Internet to share every single detail. Millennial teachers are just pussies
>But but tablet babies!!
Yeah like we're gonna forget the fact we were all TV and Gameboy kids

I'd even argue kids use to act more hellish back in the day. So many behaviors that should've got kids institutionalized got swept under the rug, we're just finally acknowledging said bad behaviors so it seems worse . I even remember in daycare boys use to casually throw rocks and kill animals, make rape and death threats, and torture other children and no one cared. We're finally calling out the behaviors and people think it's bad

No. 424385

>>424340
>Kids have always acted like little shits, if anything they were worse back in the day we just didn't have the Internet to share every single detail.
This. Neglecting children has been so normalized that they accuse people who don't neglect their children of being whiney/weak, and then think kids were easier cause they neglected them back then.

No. 424414

Does anyone else want a kid but worry they might end up hating it? I’m not ready for a baby yet and probably wouldn’t have one for a few more years, unless I somehow get really baby crazy (yolo), but when I think about birthing some autistic freak and having to calm its screaming sessions, my mind goes numb. Or imagine raising a kid for 20 years and it becomes a tranny. I think I would genuinely disown it. I can also envision raising a kid with good ideals, imparting my wisdom, and spoiling them, and just being a happy family. But the dark path potentials turn me off the idea.

No. 424431

>>424414
I don't have kids but I genuinely think I'd abandon my kid if he ended up being one of those aggressive autists.

No. 424440

>>423320
maternal healthcare is literally going to fucking kill us. I'm overdue and had heart issues my entire pregnancy and my providers did not give a single fuck. my heart rate would get to damn near 200 if I even walked to the bathroom, I had to take off of work and chase around my toddler and they didn't want to treat me because "I should've had this figured out before getting pregnant" even though they never answer the fucking phone and didn't let me get BC when I was begging for it months before pregnancy.

No. 424457

>>424340
>Millennial teachers are just pussies
Kek, and the millennial parents aren't pussies? I'm sorry, but involved millennials are not common (at least where I live). Most people I know just stick the kid in front of an iPad. You have teachers begging that kids going into the 3rd grade know how to spell their name. Kids need parental involvement. It's okay to admit that some millennials are lazy parents.

No. 424463

>>424457
>millennial parents aren't pussies
those go hand and hand anon, most millennial teachers are crappy parents themselves
>involved millennials are not common (at least where I live). Most people I know just stick the kid in front of an iPad.
and the previous generations use to kick their kids outside. hell housewives back in the 50s use to brag about drugging babies or leaving the stroller outside to get shit done. Neglectful parents are nothing new, just different flavors
>You have teachers begging that kids going into the 3rd grade know how to spell their name.
boomers and millenials are straight up bragging about how they didn't even know how to read in 3rd grade kek. I've seen parents in therapy groups whine about how their therapist or whatever has their kid doing like 4 speech or reading therapy sessions a week cause they couldnt pronounce a word right. Kids absolutely use to spell their own names wrong previously, we're just in a time where it's actually acknowledged and concerned rather than just wooping their ass and throwing them in a closet
>admit that some millennials are lazy parents.
I did, my point wasn't that millenials weren't lazy or crappy, just that this is probably the first time in history where a lot of behaviors are being acknowledged than ignored, you ended up proving my point

No. 424464

>>423263
I am so sorry you are in this position. Definitely get an abortion; your bf has no idea what having kids entails, or he knows and expects you to bear the full burden alone. Do you have anyone in your life who can go with you to the appointment (not your bf) to support you?

No. 424465

>>424457
If they weren't obedient "pussies" they would get sued or beaten for not treating their sons like the kings they are. It's a fact that less and less consequences are allowed, that kids and parents become more and more violent and that students perform worse and worse, but no, it must be people imagining things. It's not zoomer and millenial teachers complaining the most either, it's older ones who had to witness the rapid change every single year.
It's sad to see that even farmers can turn out this delusional and hostile once they become moms. Nobody says they have to lock up and beat their kids but by extremely coddling them or buying them everything that has a screen and already defending them against future made up enemies when they're just babies, they're definitely not doing them any favor. Despite thinking they're ready to be parents so many still haven't worked on their issues and are stuck in a neverending teen phase (everybody else is wrong/parents wrong, my child is the best, everybody is so mean to me (and my baby), school fucking sucks, 5 hours of screentime is normal, and so on…)

No. 424467

>>424465
>they would get sued or beaten for not treating their sons like the kings
this is an aspect in all forms of childcare, parents are literally getting investigated by CPS is their child scrapes their knee at the playground

No. 424476

>>424465
Except it's unhinged parents doing that to teachers, they other way around is not happening. And schools contacting cps is only done in the most extreme cases (probably too rarely).

No. 424477

>>424476
>schools contacting cps is only done in the most extreme cases
my city literally had to instill laws because schools and hospitals were reaping kids by the dozens over every little health problem, injury etc. They had to pass it because they took away the mayors son cause they had a seatbelt bruise from a car accident. I'm glad it's not a thing you've had to encounter but its very real. there's never ending discussions about how CPS seems to only get involved with good families but ignore bad ones, I'm actually shocked you didn't know this?
>Except it's unhinged parents doing that to teachers, they other way around is not happening.
we're all people, there's bad and good people on both sides. I will say I've definitely seen my fair share of teachers push unrealistic expectations onto students and parents however

No. 424527

What's the point in even trying? Idk how mothers aren't killing their families and themselves in masses at this point. Why is everything we do is wrong? Why do so many people hate us for existing?

No. 424530

>>424527
The explosion of antinatalism. Tbh I went through an antinatalist phase of hating mommies too, most of them grow out of it. I think people tend to get annoyed when you push having kids on them, otherwise most women don't care that you're a mom.

No. 424531

>>424530
It's not just anti-natalists, it's other parents, grandparents, etc. it's like we're second class citizens. Just sucks because all I ever wanted to be was a mother then when I finally accomplish it, it just feels like I turned myself into the world's worse enemy

No. 424532

>>424531
Are you really encountering that much mom hate irl?

No. 424534

>>424532
In a way, yes. I have a special needs baby so I'm constantly around other parents, staff, etc. my baby even became special needs since the hospital thought I was lying about her puking up everything until she had severe weight loss and that they just thought I was too lazy/stupid to feed her. I had to video Everytime she puked so they believed me. Now I get the typical old people "everything you do is wrong" from family members and then medical workers and such just shaming me for every little thing. People forget online behaviors can project a lot into irl since most people live online in some way

No. 424537

>>424534
>special needs
Okay, your og post makes a lot more sense now. Sorry.

No. 424830

>>424414
The male autism thing really worried me because I've had such horrible experiences with spectrumy men. There is some overlap between autism and being trans so hopefully controlling for one sorts the other bit out.
Make sure your husband and you take vitamins and coq10 for 4 months prior to conceiving and don't smoke. take all the vitamins recommended by ACOG and you'll improve your odds of not having an autist. Try your absolute best to not get sick during pregnancy but if you do, make sure you're taking at least the minimum amount of choline recommended by ACOG or whatever medical body is in your country. There is a genetic component for all mental illnesses but environmental factors can amplify or potentiate symptom severity.
I'm not in the camp that believes vaccines cause autism but I have seen enough evidence suboptimal nutrition (and prenatals don't have adequate vitamin D omega 3 and choline) and fevers can cause different kinds of harm on fetal neurodevelopment. The magnitude of that harm is probably not terribly significant but it's good to feel like you have some sort of control.

No. 425037

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>>424457
Maternal morality rates have gone up since the 80s? What changed? We have new healthcare advancements than ever before

No. 425109

>>425037
Help/support, longer hospital time and they utilized the importance of REST, doctors are stingier with medications now, better finances and job security so women can take off as much time as they need, way way less harsh standards were pushed on mothers so women aren't out there killing themselves to prove something.

Now in 2024, you're blown off throughout your entire pregnancy, encouraged to not get pain relief, told to not make noises during birth, and given a Tylenol and flavorless hospital food and told to fuck off, go home but also keep it clean and cook and never sleep after having one of the most traumatic events in your life. Oh and don't you dare ask for help either and don't complain because you chose this afterall. How did we somehow evolve backwards in women's care?

No. 425115

>>424414
I worry about this a lot, but I specifically worry about what my current pregancy will do to me, and honestly, I’m more torn up about it than I should be. Like most lolcow users, I’m mentally ill, and I’ve had some pretty explosive meltdowns over completely pointless shit that I didn’t care about an hour later. I never planned to live this long, I always thought I’d kms before I turned 21, but I’m 23 now. Im pregnant from a one night stand, and I know I need to abort this child, not for my own comfort, but to save them a life of misery. Sorry for the slight blog and medfagging, but I’m a therapist in a women’s prison, and a lot are in there for child abuse. I can’t get one woman out of my head, who I was even surprised was there. She was the nicest, kindest, and most prepared woman when she was pregnant. She did everything right, she had support, therapy, medication, but she still got postpartum psychosis, and nearly murdered the baby who she tried to have for 13 years just because her treatment wasn’t enough. If something like that can happen to a woman who had everything she needed to be a mother, I think carrying this child to term is a death sentence. I’m already psychotic, on a ton of meds, and one day without them turns me into an abusive bitch. I know my own child wouldn’t be safe with me, but there’s some pesky hormones that already have me attached to this clump of cells the size of a peanut….i just don’t want to hurt someone I love so much in a fit of inevitable psychosis

No. 425119

>>425115
That poor woman. What a scathing indictment of our society that a struggling woman was jailed instead of being given enough support that she never ended up in such dire straits to begin with.

No. 425121

>>425119
People are so obsessed with punishing women for becoming mothers they don't even care how extremely safer even just a little bit of help is, for everyone mind you. They'll just cry about how silly it is to say something like "if I don't do your dishes you'll kill the baby and yourself KEKK" but in literally every other medical crisis and recovery, it's almost always expected for friends and family to help you, we go through one of the most dangerous things we could ever put our bodies through and are expected to be all on our own and not sleep. It's ridiculous

No. 425141

>>425118
Okay? Most anons are don't circumcise. What are you talking about?

No. 425143

>>425141
it's a moid, this is his fetish and he comes here to spam his little infographics and copypastas all over here and /ot/ once every month or so. Just report.

No. 425189

I'm nearly 38 weeks pregnant and sent my mother a photo of my bump.
Her response was "are you sure there's only one in there, not twins or triplets?".
When I said don't say that it's rude she doubled down and said the other babies could be hiding and to never say never.
Pretty disgusted honestly. I don't know how much is hormones and how much it's actually justified.
It has to be a generational thing, I've never heard someone in my generation say it it's all been old women.
Last picture she's getting of me. Pretty sad now.

No. 425349

>>425037
Would bet any research relating to this will claim "it's cause we're old and fat" or something like that even though majority of women during while pregnant/postpartum are young and non-obese and ignoring the fact miscarrying women are laughed at in ERs and treated like burdens and pregnant/postpartum women are getting called dramatic and having eyes rolled at them for presenting any sort of issues

No. 425603

Has anyone's pelvic floor actually got better after pregnancy and birth? I use to pee myself as a teenager but after birth I only peed myself once freshly postpartum

No. 425664

>>425037
wtf is this worldwide? Or for which country?

No. 425696


No. 425699

>>425121
Why did we ever think it's a good idea to leave anyone completely alone and taking care of a newborn directly after one of the most traumatic, dangerous and out of control times in your entire life? Like even back in the 50s, neighbors would come over and do housework, you'd stay in the hospital for two weeks instead of a single day, etc

No. 425700

>>425699
they know its a terrible idea, most people encouraging simply dont care or even thrive in the idea of women and kids suffering. or theyre misogynists setting women up for failure and waiting on that to use as an example as to why women are bad and cant be trusted.

No. 425903

>>425664
it's split by races, only Americans do this garbage.

If anything this graph shows how awful their for-profit medical system is. In the normal first world I doubt that's the case. One example being that they push a shitton of things onto their customers aka patients, such as inducing for no reason, unnecessary C-sections and then also don't allow the mother to eat or even drink during labour? My active labour was "only" 8 hours and the nurses told me beforehand and encouraged me during it to have snacks and drinks and not go to the war with an empty tank lol

No. 425944

>>425903
In this boat right now. Dr basically ignored me my entire pregnancy despite developing heart issues and contracting an STD after being SA'd refused to set up visits in case I go overdue, now that I'm overdue they're a pain to contact so I just started showing up to the hospital, when I called she claimed "she didn't find it necessary to induce but wanted to do a non stress test and amniotic fluid check", then when I show up she wants me to drop everything and induce right there, I told her no ? I can induce tomorrow night though and ofc got judged to hell and back like you have got to be kidding me. And Ik they'll somehow magically not know or find any other way other than pitocin and fentanyl epidural for induction and pain management and any other methods is "not proven and super dangerous"

No. 426366

My newborn is so silly. She doesn’t like being swaddled normally because her preferred sleeping position is curled up like she’s still in the womb. It’s almost like she’s saying “I wasn’t prepared for life out here, I wanna go back home” kek

No. 426513

The push of no pain relief during birth is such a moid psych op. No one would dare fear monger about epidurals to moids when they use it, only for women though. Why are we told the more pain women go through the better?

No. 426519

>>426513
Because Misogyny. Motherhood has to be painful and sacrificing or else ‘you aren’t doing it right’ Eve ate the apple. Or the fact that the Medical field routinely downplays woman’s pain in general.
Pick an excuse, it can always be traced back to Misogyny.

No. 426520

>>426513
its because insurance companies don't want to pay for it, it's that simple

No. 426521

>>426513
It's truly some sort of weird martyr complex. "The more pain you willingly go through, the more you actually love your child" I immediately cut out people who pedal that bullshit. I had friends who had kids at the same time literally start competing with each other in front of everybody about who actually had a more painful childbirth and how they'd definitely do it all over again if they could. Like chill… your pain has absolutely nothing to do with love, but it sure does have a lot to do with wanting praise. I just can't imagine bragging to somebody about how I almost died and would do it over and over just to prove some imaginary point of "love"

No. 426525

>>426519
It's ridiculous how much we reverted back in terms of pregnancy and postpartum care. We use to have whole ass twilight sleep births and now we're having morons call women attention whores for making noises during birth, advocating against pain relief and treating women as failures for getting c sections

No. 426566

>>426513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS2AWlLx48A
Watch this if you can stand it. A teen mom wants to have an epidural, and her teen bf throws the biggest fucking tantrum because HE wanted a natural birth. When asked why, he says it's because hospitals/nurses/doctors/midwives suck, and they only care about the mom or want the mom wants to do, and HE doesn't get any attention. I've never been able to watch the full thing because it makes me too mad.(learn to embed)

No. 426567

>>426566
reminds me of that photo I've seen where the nurse had to take care of a nauseous moid while his girlfriend was giving birth. weak pathetic creatures

No. 426981

Copying my question from the masturbation thread, sorry if it's put of place. I'ts about post partum recovery.

Nonnas how long after birth were you able to masturbate with clit stimulation?
What about fingers and penetration?
I'm a week post partum and everything seems to be going well, but I don't know what is the normal "timeline" in which I can expect to recover sexual function. I'm already feeling arousal occasionally but I can't do anything about it without some discomfort.

No. 426994

>>426981
I was told many times not to put anything inside for 6 weeks. Masturbation never came up but I had no desire.

No. 427393

Anyone else find c section recovery easier than natural birth recovery?

No. 427479

>>427393
Didn’t have a c section but I’ve heard first hand how rough the recovery is vs a vaginal birth. You’ve been sliced open and then you want to do things like sit down or stand up and it’s impossible without pain. My friend was practically bed bound for two weeks because getting up out of bed and getting back into bed or in a relaxing position was challenging.

No. 427611

>>424414
I was super worried about the autism thing, especially if I had a boy because there's plenty of autistic males in my family.

I slogged raw duck egg blended with OJ every morning for the choline, along with NAC and Omega-3; so far my toddler has turned out great. He's hyper-social (which is good because he's forcing me to be sociable too), great with eye contact, has lots to say about everything (still babbling) and I'm keeping my hopes up for him.

If you choose to have a baby, you're taking that risk.

No. 427620

>>427611
I’m glad I’m not the only one who took diet seriously for brain development reasons. My husband questioned if choline, dha, and vitamin D were necessary, and never conceded that I was right.

No. 427648

>>427393
My recovery from my c-section was pretty easy but I have a high pain tolerance and I lucked out by getting a surgeon who is renowned for his skill with c-sections. My scar is less than 5 inches long; after 1 year, it's almost completely gone. The most painful part was dealing with the horrific constipation from all of the drugs they pumped into me.

No. 427651

>>427648
who is he nonny?

No. 427652

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>>427611
I read somewhere that young children who are read to and talked to from infancy onwards have a much larger vocabulary than their peers. Also, to make sure he grows up to be cultured and not retarded and zoomer-tier, raise him on old movies.

No. 427695

>>427620
You sound just like me, I spent a huge amount of my paycheck on supplements and high-quality food (much better quality than normal). It's a good thing that you care as well :)

>>427652
If the TV is on, it's only when I'm busy or doing chores. I've never used 'babytalk' and have always spoken to my little one like a normal person. I've got videos of him making noises in a conversation like manners with eye contact from about 4 months. I don't think I've ever stopped talking to him during the day haha(emoji)

No. 427710

>>427479
I've had both imo c section recovery was a little bit easier, and that's despite the fact I only tore 1st degree. It could also do with the fact hospitals are more likely to give you proper postpartum pain relief after a c section where as with vaginal they basically tell you to take Tylenol and go fuck yourself

No. 428272

Is there even that big of a difference caring for boys and girls? I'm having twins, one boy and one girl, and the only thing I hear is that boys are so sweet and that girls are nightmares.

No. 428277

>>428272
for the most part people project their sexist bias onto babies

No. 428299

>>428272
Not really. I have one of each and it really just comes down to personality. What works for one kid, won’t work for the other. Doesn’t have anything to do with their gender. I’m general, boys do tend to be more physical and girls more emotional. But that isn’t always the case of course. My daughter is more physical, into gymnastics and BJJ. My son is more into art and building things.
They’re both very affectionate/sweet and both can be nightmares.

No. 428493

Has anyone here had gestational diabetes/known someone who had it? I was diagnosed with it relatively late and the potential long-term consequences are eating me alive.

No. 430048

My daughter just turned two years old yesterday, and I'm pregnant too and I just want to share how incredibly whitepilling and how much of a blessing this is. Especially since many of the younger women here seem to have a lot of anxiety around that. Truly I tell you, the best part about being parents is the insane notion that if you didn't love your partner a whole person simply wouldnt exist. And seeing them do exist despite the odds and chances and then slowly begin thinking & speaking of their own is simply amazing. That's why you should be grateful for life itself, because of the fact that you get to give them this gift of making experiences as well. There's nothing more beautiful to witness than seeing a person with your own blood that you can gift happiness and beautiful memories to.

No. 430101

>>428493
Late, but my mom had that with my little sister. I remember she had to prick her finger every day to test the blood. I don't know much about it outside of that, but there were zero long term consequences as far as any of us know. Good luck nona.

No. 430191

Does anyone else get really annoyed with unnecessary baby talk? My baby is too young to talk, but I speak with her like she's another human, not like some type of weird pet. I have two sisters with toddlers, one who did that weird baby talk, and one that didn't. The one who was baby talked can barely speak at 3 years old, everything he says is high pitched and in this weird tone, but the one who wasn't talked to like a puppy is two and able to hold basic conversation. Obviously, it's nothing advanced, she's two, but she can tell you about what she did that day with very little problems. I'm not gonna do that weird baby talk for sure.

No. 430198

>>430191
It’s more likely a boy vs girl thing. I talked in sentences by two like your niece, my younger brother who received the same treatment did not get to that stage until like 4 easily. There are also home videos of me with my toddler friend group and me and one other girl toddler were the only ones who talked correctly, the rest were boys and sounded like Neanderthals.

No. 431674

>>394660
My baby started kicking recently and every time I feel him move I start smiling. It like half tickles and sometimes it's uncomfortable, but it's starting to feel real that I'm growing a whole new person! I know it's not really a contribution to the conversation but I just had to share aha. I hope all the other pregnant nonas are doing well!

No. 431788

>>431674
It's nice to hear some positivity! I'm deep in the 3rd trimester and the group I'm in is 99% complaints including from myself

No. 431810

>>426513
Subconsciously moids believe that the more you sacrifice (whether it directly benefits the offspring or not), the higher your investment in the baby will be. It's biological sunk cost. No matter what they say, they want you to be as "ruined" as possible to eliminate every path for you besides caring for their genetic legacy. A woman whose birth is painless, hasn't altered her body and therefore has a smaller crucial "window" of weakness to manipulate and beat her down is obviously a suboptimal scenario for a male.

No. 431826

My sister's been in and out of hospital for the last 6 months and with me being a NEET it's fallen to me to look after my baby nephew for the last 5 months.
He's about 8 months old now and my sister said she will be ready to take him back soon. I said I was happy for them to be together again, but really I just wish he was mine forever ;_; He's such a sweetie(no emoticons)

No. 431916

Can you really lose your teeth from pregnancy? A girl I know who has 5 kids blames losing all her teeth on being pregnant and I have a hard time believing it.

No. 431922

>>431916
It can cause calcium deficiency which can cause your teeth to fall out. It's not super common but I would recommend staying on top of your calcium anyway.

No. 431936

>>431916
Yep, happened to my mom’s friend, she also developed brittle bones

No. 431964

>>431916
Yes, my neighbour exprienced that. If receiving inadequate nutrition the fetus will leech minerals from the mothers body.

No. 432075

>>431916
Oh yeah, pregnancy has a fuck ton of body horror tier symptoms that nobody talks about. Not that long ago, I fell asleep while sitting up, and I couldn't move my lower body when I woke up. I got scared, but it was just my baby taking a nap on my spinal cord and causing my lower body to be temporarily paralyzed. Scared the shit out of me.

No. 432302

How tf do I lose weight post partum?? I'm so fucking fat but have to eat more bc I'm breastfeeding and I honestly hate it
Also don't fall for the cesarean meme, apron bellies are the worst

No. 432721

>>431916
I took citircal calcium (it's the only calcium i know of that doesnt have lead in it because it's synthetic) in 3rd trimester because i didnt want to eat dairy. I think it helps prevent this sort of thing.
>>432302
My cesarean scar is healing fine but i don't have much adominal fat. How far out from delivery are you? I could lose weight until my period returned
I kept my incision covered with silicone tape for 5 months and it healed really well. It looks like normal skin but it's a different color and it is not like any other scars i have. That might also contribute to the lack of apron i dont know

No. 432959

>>432302
Just keep breastfeeding for me after a couple of months I even got skinnier than pre pregnancy where I had a few extra pounds. Bad part is it mostly gets lost on the ass.

No. 433274

My fiance, my toddler, and I have been invited to my best friend's wedding next year. My toddler will be almost 2 (23 months) by the time the wedding happens. My fiance keeps questioning whether or not we should bring her, despite me repeatedly telling him that I would very much like her to be there. His reasoning is that 'it's not our wedding and she'll be loud'. The bride has met my toddler, and we're very close, and I trust that she is genuine when she says that my toddler is invited (compared to possibly feeling an obligation to invite her). My fiance has previously questioned whether or not we should bring our toddler to our OWN marriage ceremony since we're just eloping, and again I'm firmly of the decision that yes of course I want my daughter to be at my 'wedding'. He seems to think she's a bit of a burden (don't get me wrong, she's a handful sometimes but she's 18 months old, she's just being a small child) and I feel super resentful of the fact that he sees our daughter as an optional tag-a-long for things. How would you nonas feel in a similar situation?

No. 433407

I’m actually considering having children after I met a moid who’s, for lack of better terms, just got his shit together so much more than my ex did and he’s so much more of a provider, it feels embarrassing to admit this

No. 433467

>>431916
Prolactin (the lactation hormone) literally melts bones. Relaxin melts connective tissue. There is no known way to fully remineralize bones or repair ECM. Pregnancy also irreversibly reduces grey matter volume.

It's fucking horrifying how little women know about it.

No. 433473

>>433274
Please consider that if you do bring your child, most of your time will be spent on you daughter: feeding her, entertaining her, keeping her from being a tripping hazard because toddlers tend to wander. Even the most well-behaved kid will require effort to keep them from getting fussy in these kinds of chaotic situations with many new people and experiences. Unless there are multiple other people willing to keep an eye out, you are not going to be able to pay much attention to the wedding itself. You have to ask yourself what is more important to you, having your daughter present, or witnissing your best friend's wedding.

I'm not trying to shit on you for wanting to bring your daughter. If the experience wouldn't be the same without her, by all means bring her. Especially because the bride is totally onboard. Personally I would just be too stressed out from making sure my kid is happy and not bothering any of the other guests. And at 2 years old when she won't even remember the whole thing, so I'd rather go by myself and ensure I have something fun to look back on.

No. 433487

He wouldn’t get a job for two years. How the fuck was I expected to have children with him, they would have fucking starved on my salary alone.

No. 433492

>>433467
>Pregnancy also irreversibly reduces grey matter volume.
I was so pissed off when I found this out.
I also lost a tooth with each pregnancy. One I was able to crown, the other had to be yoinked out. Thankfully it was a molar because I have a gap now as I can’t afford an implant.

No. 433560

>>433274
I think for your daughters sake it would be best if a trusted family member babysat her for a few hours, weddings are awfully boring or stressful for a child that young.

No. 433562

>>431916
You can go blind, you can rip from vagina all the way through to your asshole and clitoris preventing you from ever having an orgasm again and shitting into your own vagina, you can get paralysed

Loosing teeth is a minor thing compared to the horrors one can experience

No. 434014

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>>433467
>>433492
I'm not sure which study you might be referencing but I found one based on a pregnant neuroscientist who scanned her own brain. Picrel, this article was posted this month so fairly recent.
>On average, there was a 4% decrease in gray-matter volume within the affected brain areas
>"That's similar to the amount of reduction in puberty," Jacobs noted at a news conference Thursday (Sept. 12). Hormone surges in puberty come with a dip in gray-matter volume, as the brain prunes excess tissue so it can run more efficiently.
>"Sometimes people bristle when they hear that gray-matter volume decreases during pregnancy — like, 'That can't be a good thing,'" she said. However, "this change probably reflects the fine-tuning of neural circuits, not unlike the cortical thinning that happens during puberty."
>That fine-tuning may forever change the brain. "Many of these changes seem to be what you might think of as permanent etchings in the brain," Jacobs said.
>However, other changes seen in the study were temporary. During the first and second trimesters, white matter, the insulated wiring between neurons, grew more robust.
>Other conditions, such as migraines and multiple sclerosis, often improve during pregnancy, and it's unclear why.

I don't think the grey matter volume reduction is as bad as it sounds, and women are smarter than men anyway. Kek leaving aside my personal feelings about neuroscience.

https://www.livescience.com/health/neuroscience/striking-brain-scans-reveal-how-one-mom-s-brain-changed-during-pregnancy

No. 434236

>>434014
Autoimmunity improves during pregnancy because pregnancy is an immune-compromised state. It often gets worse afterwards due to fetal microchimerism. The study I'm referring to followed multiple women throughout their pregnancy and many years postpartum + used nulliparous controls. The result is that women who have ever been pregnant can be identified by brain scan with something like 95% accuracy.

No. 435493

Can adoptive moms post here? I just got custody of my niece (I guess daughter now) and she's about to be four. I live in a studio apartment until the people in my new apartment move out. Is it okay for her to sleep in my bed with me for a few weeks, or should I invest in getting her a toddler bed? It'd be crowded in the apartment I have now, but its only for a few weeks. Also, this is gonna sound retarded, what kind of toys do toddler girls like? My brother just sat her in front of a TV all day, but I don't want her to be a sticky iPad kid. The only toy she brought with her is a stuffed bunny, but I think a kid her age needs more.

No. 435497

>>435493
Some imaginative toys like building blocks and crayons is probably a good idea

No. 435498

>>435493
instruments and sensory toys

No. 435499

>>435493
It's fine to have her in your bed if there's space, american media monsterizes this but that's because scrotes want babies and kids out of the bedroom asap regardless of their needs in order to sexually harass their wives.

No. 435917

>>435493
you might already know this but she might enjoy frequent trips to the park and maybe some activities that she can use at the park like blowing bubbles, a ball to bounce, etc

No. 436122

How to cope with the grief of having the baby rabies but am too gay and AuDHD for motherhood to be a viable option for me.

No. 436124

>>436122
You cope by acknowledging how shitty your life is and how it'd be no different for your sperglets, possibly worse given the state of things

No. 436199

>>436122
There are hospitals where you can volunteer to be a baby cuddler. You can help care for NICU babies or abandoned babies.

No. 436394

More parenting than baby talk but I don't really know where else to discuss this. I have a five year old daughter who is really into princesses, ballerinas, unicorns etc. and is now starting to get interested in makeup and jewellery, including piercings. She has friends her age who just got their ears pierced and now she wants it, too. She's also asking for makeup for Christmas. Her father and I agree we're not going to encourage this but we're surrounded by people who see nothing wrong with it. Her best friend's mom actually bought her a makeup kit for her 5th birthday but fortunately she forgot about it in the chaos of the party and we managed to hide it. I don't want my five year old wearing mascara and lipgloss. Just no.

Every feminist parenting discussion I read always revolves around gnc kids, meaning girls who don't want to be 'girly' and boys who do. The consensus is always to not force girls into dresses or forbid boys from liking the colour pink, because that just causes issues further down the line. But I don't think you can compare boys who like to dress up as Elsa for Halloween to girls who want to wear high heels to preschool. The boys will almost certainly grow out of it, and even if they don’t gnc men will still benefit from patriarchy while gender conforming women are exploited by it. How do I steer my girl away from harmful aspects of gender without making her feel bad for being a girl and liking relatively harmless ‘girly’ things? Most adults I know can’t seem to differentiate between the two and think that me not wanting my preschooler to get into makeup means I must’ve wanted a boy instead. I don’t care if she likes pink and unicorns, I just don’t want her to get sucked into beauty culture at five years old. Someone tell me I’m not crazy, please.

No. 436396

>>436394
You're not crazy. I wonder if you can shift the usage of makeup away from the traditional and turn it into something fun? For instance, use the makeup to paint a butterfly on her face or something. It turns it into a sort of creative expression and something that's again, fun, rather than the idea of having to correct or change appearance to appeal to others. Some makeup can even be used kind of like art supplies. This is unfortunately a really tough situation that's very hard to navigate.

No. 436452

>>436394
Hopefully you're already controlling her internet/tv usage and have blocked anything to do with makeup. Kids want these things because they see other people with them. Girls want makeup because they see their mom do it. So try not to wear or do your makeup in front of her.
I don't know if you can get her to stop wanting it, but you can get here to want other things instead. Lead by example and show her other cool things she can like, show that you and your partner are interested in them. If you show an interest in something, she'll likely want to copy you.

No. 436581

>>436124
>sperglets
Hard pass. I imagine if I had normie kids they would find a way to manipulate me. Thanks for the reminder.

No. 438445

Are there any natural induction methods that aren't bullshit and don't require doing something unsafe or stupid?

No. 438448

>>403452
Imagine if you realized this 13 years later well into your marriage and with the teen kid

No. 438453

>>438445
I tried everything except castor oil. I eventually did the foley balloon and instantly regretted it. It worked though, I practically went into labor instantly. But it was horrible and I don’t recommend it unless you are absolutely adamant about avoiding medication that helps induce.

No. 438481

>>436394
It's a tough situation but you're being good parents by resisting it. Like the other nona said, maybe you can try to spin her interest towards something artistic? She might enjoy making pretty things (painting, crafts, etc.) instead of worrying about being pretty. If she's into girly stuff maybe you can encourage a hobby that's associated with femininity, like ballet or ice skating. Doing hair might also be a healthier beauty-related interest, a lot of young girls enjoy learning different ways to braid hair for themselves and their friends.

No. 438483

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>>438453
Were you using any pain relief with the balloon? I have an induction scheduled for a few days, so there's a good chance I'll have to use it.

No. 438490

>>438483
No, and they didn’t offer me any. I have a high pain tolerance so I didn’t think to ask. I figured it would be uncomfortable but the amount of pressure was intense. I couldn’t even stand. I had been doing membrane sweeps too which were rough.

No. 438592

Had my first ultrasound after spotting blood for a week. Baby had a heartbeat and I am 6 weeks and 1 day. I'm really scared of miscarriage and I don't know why Im bleeding so much. My doctor's office doesn't open until Monday to go over the ultrasound results with me. I just feel so scared and I don't know what to do. Did anyone else have experience with something like this?

No. 438593

>>438481
This. NTAYRT but this is really good advice. I can’t believe people think it’s ok for kids that young to have makeup to actually wear smh. For the OP, I was pretty girly and something my mom did to let me play with makeup without wearing it was she would draw very basic faces (like the MAC makeup look book face drawing but different features and hairstyles) in sharpie on white paper and then give me old makeup to color in the faces with. My friends and I loved when she’d bust out that game so much. If my daughter shows an interest in it when she’s big enough I will play it with her kek. Oh and maybe nail painting? I adored when my mom would sit and do mine, and I still have the bottle of the first real color she ever let me get like a little keepsake kekkk

No. 438594

>>438592
I’m surprised no one mentioned implant bleeding. It’s normal that early in the pregnancy. It can last a few days and then it stops.

No. 438596

>>438594
It's been like a period with clots for like a week, even now Im bleeding on and off with really bad cramps. It just doesnt feel right. I researched it could be something called a SCH but its so scary to look at on my own and my doctor is so distant and wont answer any questions until Monday.

No. 438613

>>438596
It could be a threatened abortion, but you won't know until you go to the doctor for sure, so there's no point worrying about it now.

No. 439242

>>438445
do not do a midwives brew or castor oil you will have a miserable time lmao.
Curb walking if you have the energy, otherwise just rest on your side and try to relax your muscles.
Epsom salt baths if u can

>>438592
Could have been implantation bleeding or a blood clot but they really can't do much about it so it's a wait and see kind of thing. I'm sorry :(

>>436394
Hey I would try to focus on the artistic aspect of it.
There are some different Melissa and Doug activity kits and coloring pages that focus on fashion and makeup.
I have a friend that got her daughter a little tiny mannequin and small squares of cloth so she can "design" clothes.
I have a super girly 4yo too and I've painted her nails with a clear glitter polish and she has plastic dress up heels with her princess dresses but NEVER heels to wear out in public. I def try to make it like "this is a fun dress up thing we do at home" and not "you have to do this to go out and look beautiful"

No. 439303

Are insurance sales good jobs for SAHMs?

No. 439395

I legitimately want to get pregnant just because I hate my body now and want people to feel sympathetic towards me and get more welfare. I know I can’t take care of a child and would need even more help but I also know people happily help pregnant and women with children so much more than childless NEETs. Suddenly you pop out a kid, don’t be horribly abusive and mean, and you’re a goddess and everyone bows to your whims. You even get free money and healthcare. Society views NEET childless women 30+ as useless but if I have a kid I won’t be useless. People will want to help me so my kid has their mom (I’m very patient and silly and kind I’m just bad at taking care of myself, I’d be wonderful emotionally as a mother). I am from an impoverished family with genetic health conditions but maybe if I was nice to a kid unlike my abusive parents, they could grow up and have a decent life out of poverty.

No. 439435

>>439303
just my opinion, but it sounds too stressful. Sounds like a lot of commission pressure and phone calls - no thank you!

No. 439564

I'm 39 weeks now and due to give birth this weekend in theory. I've been lowkey McFreaking losing it though because since yesterday me, my Nigel and our 2 yo daughter have been sick with the flu. Toddler completely lost her perfect sleeping schedule from being up with fever all night so thats gonna be a bummer. A newborn can't be around sick people also. GG its so over
any tips on how to kind of delay the contractions or get healed fast without taking any pills kek

No. 439998

>>438445
All I can tell you is not to put in too much energy doing the Miles circuit. I did it over and over at the instructions of my midwives and it didn’t work (a membrane sweep did the trick) but I entered my 3 labor having just spent 7.5 hours doing the miles circuit, including using a breast pump for a half hour straight each time I got to the stairs portion of the circuit.
Membrane sweep was great; I recommend it your alternative is induction.

No. 440011

>>439395
>Suddenly you pop out a kid, don’t be horribly abusive and mean, and you’re a goddess and everyone bows to your whims. You even get free money and healthcare. Society views NEET childless women 30+ as useless but if I have a kid I won’t be useless. People will want to help me so my kid has their mom
You should never have a baby

No. 440095

>>440011
This makes me want one more

No. 440097


No. 440139

>>440095
>"I won't be abusive, I swear!!1"
>all the reasons why you want a kid is to feed your own ego

Yeah you're a disgusting narcissist.

No. 440140

>>440139
Are you familiar with mirrors?

No. 440211

>>440139
Literally every reason to have a kid ever boils down to feeding your own ego.

No. 440401

>>440211
aside from the virtue that self sacrifice is which is what actual childcare consists of, you're implying the primary biological function and purpose to survive is ego-driven. Okay fucking amoeba and bacteria reproduce and spread their genes they do it cause they're a bunch of selfabsorbed assholes, right?

No. 440558

>>439395
Once the baby is out nobody but your own family gives a fuck about you. You’re just someone nobody cares about being criticized for never doing enough for a baby. Never have kids if your motivation is being cared about.

No. 440955

My baby started having focal seizures and infantile spasms at 3 weeks, he needs brain surgery to remove a golf ball size amount of underdeveloped brain. I'm literally on the cusp of killing myself daily over this. I wanted to be a mother so badly and seeing him go through this is the most traumatising thing I've ever experienced.
The surgery will maime his right side, they explained it as his arm will be a "helper arm" not a strength arm, assume we can get enough movement back with OT.
His cognitive and development is up in the air, we won't know until he starts missing milestones how bad it will be. The surgery will be between January to March, assuming they don't pull it forward. The meds he is on can cause long term damage. Taking him off the meds will cause catastrophic damage. The surgery will cause damage. I want to die.

No. 440960

>>440955
I'm a medical case junkie and I just want to point out there much older children than your baby having an entire hemispherectomies and still growing up to function as normal adults. baby's brains are insanely plastic so he will probably be fine and much better off than before. of course yeah it sucks but it's not life destroying as crazy as it sounds

No. 440961

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>>440960
The part that's being removed is really unfortunate, at the moment they have a balancing act of trying to get him big enough for a better outcome at the cost of him being on the medication that can cause damage.
One he is on can cause blindness. I stopped looking them up after I saw that. Knowing what I thought was a healthy baby is going to be permanently disabled is just such a horrific feeling, not being able to plan for how bad it will be because we won't know until we know is torture

No. 440962

>>440961
permanently disabled is a huge spectrum though, and you have no idea if it's going to be really serious or not. I technically have a motor disability but it really is not a big deal in my life. And for him he will have had it as long as he can remember so it's likely he won't even wind up thinking about it that much since it will feel natural to him. It has to happen no matter what, so I would just embrace the fact that the young human brain is insanely adaptable and while it sucks to have to go through, there's no point doomspiraling about things that might not even happen.

No. 440964

>>440962
samefagging to add more brain stories, my grandmother had a huge congenital brain malformation in her wernike's area that exploded when she was around 50, and that's a part of the brain crucial to language. She has had continual seizures there ever since (she's now mid-80s). The prognosis was not good for her ability to communicate especially due to the location and her age, but her brain was able to adapt shockingly quickly and she never lost her ability to speak or communicate, the most that happened was she got really good at circumlocution for the times a word isn't coming to her. So my point is there's a lot of horror stories and grim prognoses out there but in reality things don't always go as bad as they say they will.

No. 440976

>>440955
I know it's all so hard to go through but don't lose hope. I have a brain defect that means half of my brain is partically too big for my skull and because of that not able to work properly. I'm a last year med student and I function just fine besides some sight issues on one eye.
Your kid will be okay, she will grow up and hopefully have a life close to normal just like I did.

No. 440978

>>440955
Nona I'm sorry that this is happening to you. I feel for you and your little one. As other anons pointed out, a child's brain is marvelous at adapting and overcoming adversities; there is hope that your baby will be able to live a fulfilled and happy life. It's hard being a new mum, having longed for your child, bonded with your baby, planned it's future and now it all seems to come crashing down. Thr uncertainty is very hard to deal with, especially for new mothers, so please consider talking to someone else you trust close to you and someone professional, like a therapist with knowledge of post-partum mothers. Postpartum depression can be triggered by a myriad of things and it's way more common than you'd believe, ontop of this you're experiencing a very though time. Take care of yourself too, nonna, for your own sake and for your baby.

No. 441499

>Blogpost:

I just gave birth yesterday to our second daughter and it was an accidental homebirth. I did not expect the labour to take so much less, because with my first from breaking waters to giving birth basically an entire day passed. This time I felt some mild ones around 4am and at 7:30h she was born. I even called the hospital in time and they told me to relax, wait and call them back 1 hour from now. Then it just progressed super fast and 1 hour later her head was coming out in our bed at home kek. All went fine thankfully! So if you have your second baby maybe get ready to go right after having two contractions in a row or so.

No. 441500

>>441499
congrats nona!!

No. 441708

>>440011
nta I use to think like this too. I've never been treated as badly as I was than I became a mother. You can basically go to war for your children and people will think you're bad, hell there's women who walked into school shootings before to rescue their kids and got called stupid. Anything you do is dissected and used against you. I literally just got off of a group where people were circlejerking about how moms should've "shut the fuck up and closed their legs" because they needed help with a door when using a stroller. Women have been told they should've let their baby die when they give them CPR. If you end up single, even for things like your partner dying the world will literally rip you a new one and you're regarded as a second class citizen.

Remember when you could ask your neighbor for help? nope you'll be screeched at about "shutting your legs", and depending on where you're getting care from people will threaten to call CPS on you for breathing wrong. and if thats not bad enough the entire care you'll recieve during pregnancy, birth and postpartum is terrible. you can just straight up die and the doctor will tell you you're being dramatic

the only other "benefits" you claimed were free money and healthcare… which is just.. where? not in america thats for sure

No. 441709

>>435493
get her a twin bed but use a side rail. it will last longer. best toys for brain development are things like science toys, telescope, magna tiles, art supplies, etc

No. 441732

>>441499
congrats, glad everything went well!

>>435493
check facebook groups for free toys

No. 441733

How can I be a good childless ally to moms?

No. 441767


No. 441774

>>441733
The same way you be a friend to everyone else

No. 441909

>>441733
If it's right after postpartum maybe offer to bring food when you come visit, and wash the dishes or any kind of help tbh. Generally its good if you talk eventually about something that is not just the baby, too at least for me.

No. 441914

>>441733
If it's right after postpartum maybe offer to bring food when you come visit, and wash the dishes or any kind of help tbh. Generally its good if you talk eventually about something that is not just the baby, too at least for me.

No. 441985

>>441909
this, basically treat it like you would with any other surgery/intense medical procedure

No. 443059

I think I'm pregnant. I've not done the test yet, but all the signs are there. I've had to quit my caffeine addiction cold turkey after over a decade of overconsumption of energy drinks. They say up to 200mg is safe, but it's starting to look like the caffeine recommendations will be no different from alcohol in not too long, i.e. that there is no real 'safe' amount, because it causes constriction of the blood vessels either way. The fuck am I supposed to do about being so low energy then?

No. 443061

>>443059
I had days where I would sleep for 14-16 hours straight in my first trimester. My sleep schedule was so fucked but I was dead to the world. Granted I was in a position where I could do that. My second pregnancy was different since I had a toddler, but it wasn’t unusual for me to fall asleep while putting my daughter down for a nap. Sometimes we would both nap for 4+ hours or so. I did have an occasional cup of coffee with second because I was nodding off at times.
If you can sleep, sleep. If you need coffee, the occasional cup won’t be as bad as nodding off while you’re driving.

No. 443062

>>443061
Forgot to add that I was also an avid Red Bull drinker and loved lattes. My kids are a little older now so my caffeine addiction is back in full swing.

No. 443063

>>443059
>t's starting to look like the caffeine recommendations will be no different from alcohol in not too long
What makes you say that? All I've been seeing lately is articles on how it looks like caffeine actually has no negative impact on pregnancies but recommendations will stay the same until there's further research done.

No. 443065

>>443059
I agree with you nonna about the caffeine. Even though everyone tells me I can have it, something in my bones just says 200mg is an insane amount to be consuming. Definitely rest as much as you can. I'm just a few weeks ahead of you and it's extremely frustrating at first to feel so low energy. I feel useless when before I was very productive. You'll have bad days and then you'll have better days in terms of energy. Try doing some prenatal yoga in the mornings and evenings if you're up to it, I find the days I do it, I tend to feel better overall.

No. 443115

>>443059
I feel like being overly restrictive/paranoid just causes more stress in pregnancy. Almost all women who've had kids consume caffeine while pregnant, they even give caffeine to NICU preemies. If you need a coffee to function it's much better than wanting to blow your fucking brains out using any ounce of energy you can fester to do daily activities. God forbid pregnant women enjoy life

No. 443117

>>443115
I'm already a high stress, high anxiety person and I know caffeine doesn't help my case. So I do think I'm going to continue avoiding it unless I really need it

No. 443125

>>443117
Try switching to green tea - it's very low in caffeine, and high in L-theanine which helps with relaxation, sleep, and anxiety. And having a hot cup of something at the same time you would usually have your coffee, helps with the psychological aspect of addiction/craving.

No. 443159

>>443117
You could always meet in the middle and restrict to <100mg, which you can easily reach in a controlled way with a bag of black tea or a tsp of matcha. That's what I did, and my baby is at or ahead of his developmental milestones so far. I know some older women who did the same and their children are very high-achieving.
If you're neurotic then I'd also recommend doing as much research on optimal pregnancy diet up-front – not because you'll fuck up your kid if you don't have the right macros or whatever, but because you'll otherwise end up stumbling upon some random factoid about e.g. choline or protein intake halfway through and agonize over whether you ruined your baby. t. knower

No. 443160

>>443117
If that's what you feel the need to do, sure.pregnancy made me ungodly tired and I could barely get out of bed

No. 443219

>>443059
You will get more energy in second trimester. Do whatever you can to ease your burden in the first trimester. Naps, ask for help with tasks, slack off where you can. It's a rough time for alot of women and the only way out is through

No. 443281

My baby just turned 1 and I am so done breastfeeding. I literally can’t take it anymore. He only really nurses to go to sleep which is a habit I’ve been trying to break for months. Lately when I nurse him if it’s more than 15 minutes I get so overstimulated and it makes my skin crawl. I had DMER when I first started breastfeeding but it went away until now. Anyone know any tricks? Anyone been through this?

No. 443282

>>443281
If possible, have dad try and get him to fall asleep with rocking, bouncing, etc. Sometimes they just need to learn a new bedtime trigger. You can still nurse him before bed if you want but make sure he doesn’t fall asleep. Then after a day or two of that, drop the nursing all together. You can give him a sippy cup of water if you’re worried about him being thirsty or if you think he might need something in his mouth. Getting him off you is the most important goal.

No. 443315

>>394660
I'm in the middle of week 26 at the minute and I think my hair is starting to fall out. I know this is supposed to be normal for a lot of people but I'm not sure how to deal with it. I'm already very anxious about my appearance, I don't want to have to cope with being half bald too- I know I'll just worry about it every time I leave the house, which puts extra stress on the baby, which worries me even more. How do I stop caring and stressing so much? I know stress is the worst thing for the baby while he's growing.

No. 443328

am I tripping or was there a post in here of an anon asking if sales was a good WFH job for moms and an anon replied "its too stressful cause you have to call, don't do it"?

No. 443350

Nonnies I want a daughter so bad. I don't really want a son. I know there's no sure fire way to guarantee a daughter but I really wish there was

No. 443390

>>443315
No one is looking at you that hard unless you have visible scalp from bald patches on your head. Wear a baseball hat or a beanie and match your outfit to it.
You can also get hair root powder to make your hairline look denser. Or wear a low pony and get a weave

No. 444010

Just found out I'm pregnant and I'm freaking out lmao. I'm almost 30 but I'm as anxious about it as if I'm a fucking teen. I haven't even told my family I've moved to the other end of the country to be with my bf because of how it looks (we've only been together a bit over 3 months, and I was previously in a very abusive relationship that family had to help me out of.)
Christ. Where do I start, aside from prenatal vitamins? @_@(@_@)

No. 444011

>>444010
If you haven't already made an appointment with a GP/family doctor do so now for confirmation that you're pregnant. In many places an OBGYN won't see you until you're 6 or 9 weeks and I had to have a referral to get into mine. Definitely get started on a prenatal and cut back on caffeine to 200 mg or less a day.

No. 444015

>>443350
Just abort it if you find out the fetus is male

No. 444039

>>444011
I don't have a doctor, and I'm not even covered by healthcare because I just moved provinces. I'll have to see about a walk-in clinic I guess. Thanks for the response nonny, take care.
>>444015
Don't speak to me, subhuman

No. 444040

>>443350
Got my daughter guarantee through IVF. Best part was none of my eggs produced a son. Based zygotes

No. 444054

>>444039
nta but the second reply wasn't even directed towards you. i agree you should abort if it's male tho

No. 444061

>>444040
Proud of you nonnie

No. 444137

Mum with the baby who's having brain surgery posting again.
He isn't sleeping unless being held.
I cannot hold him all the time.
My hsuabnd works nightshift so he is gone during the night and has to sleep during the day.
He will take baby for 3 hours when he gets home.
I am getting 3 hours sleep every day and night, if I even get that much. On husbands nights off he will take baby, I still have to get up every 3 hours to feed but I am able to sleep.
This is day 5 of 3 hours of sleep. I've only had 2 hours in 38 hours.
I can't do this anymore all I can think of is killing myself.
I can't kill myself because my baby won't take a bottle and he will starve to death.
I had finally got baby down, finally and the cats woke him up. I want to kill the cats. I obviously won't kill the cats but I have never felt such rage before.
There is noone to help. If I knew this was motherhood I would have killed myself before marrying

No. 444140

>>444137
Is there no family or friends that can come over and hold the baby so you can take a nap?

No. 444143

>>444140
Husband has a sister, she does not wash her hands and kisses the baby despite being told not to. She ckune and sleeps around alot which idc you do you but don't kiss my baby on the side of his mouth with yours. That is all, the rest of our family and friends are 2 states away

No. 444145

>>444143
She clubs.
Rereading my posts makes it sound like English is my second language. It's not, I'm just braindead now(learn 2 delete)

No. 444209

>>444137
If your husband isn't working 12 hr shifts he needs to help you and watch the baby longer. It's inexcusable. You can each get 6-7 hours which is shitty but you are a team and if one is getting 8 hours and one is getting 3, one of you is going to completely unravel (which you currently are).
Have you tried pumping and bottle feeding? It's a sin to suggest but formula is an option for overnight.
If you're having suicidal ideation because of your situation, and your situation is extremely shitty, you need to change course a little

No. 444269

>>443350
You can try sex a few days before ovulation, apparently X type sperm stay alive in the fallopian tubes longer than Y and increase the likelihood of having a girl. That being said, I also couldn't imagine having a boy, but the cards I was dealt were 2 of them lol. I can't imagine it any other way. Hopefully one day I'll get my girl, but my boy is so smart, loving and funny. I'm sure my unborn son will be too. Once you're holding them you won't be able to believe you ever wanted anything else.

>>444015
>>444054
You're disgusting.

No. 444294

>>444039
>>444269
Boy moms are such losers. I hope your baby boys DIE(a-logging)

No. 444351

literally getting a gun so I can shoot people who shame me for needing help. not even fucking joking. Not even joking. I'm having mental breakdown after mental breakdown for daring to need help. If you get killed because you shamed a mom in a mentally vulnerable position you deserve every ounce of a slow painful death you get

No. 444777

I feel really depressed. I found out the gender of my second baby is a boy and I dont know what to do. I feel so unhappy. Before I got pregnant again I didnt know how awful I would feel. I have a daughter already and I feel like I failed her. My husband also wanted a girl. I feel so terrible and horrible. I wish I didnt have a second kid at all. Anyone else feel like this?

No. 444905

>>444351
If you're this mentally ill, you shouldn't have children in the first place and focus on treating yourself firstm

No. 444934

>>444777
Why do you feel horrible it is your husbands fault you are having a son. you are the victim here

No. 445010

>>444934
I'm all for shitting on moids but it's not like he can control it lmao.

No. 446056

>>444137
Honestly, co-sleep. It's probably safer than trying to stay up for 21 hours every day. There's lots of cultures where co-sleeping is the norm, the odds that baby would get hurt are low.

>>444010
get choline supplements and make sure to eat tons of eggs and fish.



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