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No. 2416922

General Conspiracy Thread.

Do you have somewhat schizophrenic beliefs that worry your friends and family? Tired of getting red-texted for "tinfoiling" about recent events around the globe? If so, you've come to the right place.

Discussions surrounding government cover-ups, entertainment industry secrets, odd predictions, political intrigues, etc., are all welcome here.

Please follow all /ot/ board rules. Don't start petty infights, and remember to report bait instead of responding.

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No. 2416928

It's going to be so fun seeing thread pic every time I scroll by. Thanks, op and anon who made it!

No. 2416932

>>2416928
Thank you. This is one of my favourite threads so I always try to make a cute PicMix for it.

The Elsie Pepe Silvia image comes from the Elsie Media thread on /m/, you can find it here >>>/m/337155 there's so much great art in that thread! LC has the best artists.

I'm excited to read all the tinfoils ♥

No. 2416954

I love you nonnie

No. 2417011

The reason why humans have microplastics in their system is to make the 5G work faster

No. 2417065

now i'm sexually attracted to elsie IS THIS A GOVERNMENT PSYOP

No. 2417109

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>>2417065
Anime is definitely a psy-op. After Hiroshima Japan leaned into the "cute"/infantile image bc countries are led by moids and Japan basically trooned itself bc it felt like a fail-male

>The childlike cheerfulness of these sections of the news felt inappropriate to me and I wondered why the Japanese news casters felt it necessary to flood the network with such appearances. I jumped into yet another rabbit hole of research, and learned of the origin of kawaii culture (cute culture) in Japan, and how as a means of coping with the traumas of World War II and the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan responded with a wave of childish and cute themed art, products, and mascots.


>Kawaii culture still exists today, and is essentially a manifestation of Japan’s feeling of being an underdog, or a nation stripped of a sense of power, according to a report written by behavioural scientist Hiroshi Nittono from Hiroshima University. After learning about this aspect of Japanese culture, I am beginning to notice how themes of repression and indirect forms of coping with trauma appear in Obasan and I think it has given me a unique lens to analyze the novel through.


https://blogs.ubc.ca/sabrinadang/2016/11/17/cute-culture-in-japan-and-coping-with-trauma/

No. 2417112

>>2417109
Wow, adopting a cultural-wide humiliation fetish. Maybe the bombs did more damage than we thought.

No. 2417117

>>2417065
>I'm sexually attracted to 2D cartoons
You're just severely autistic

No. 2417126

>>2417117
no shit

No. 2417128

that is a sexy masc elsie thoooo… whoever drew that needs to draw more elsies

No. 2417133

>>2417109
The radiation gave them generational brain damage and thus anime was born!

No. 2417158

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>>2417133
and these anons were glad

No. 2417170

>>2417158
I kek every time I go into the food threads and I 100% bet it’s just a bunch of whites pretending to love asian food. The japanophile psyop is hugely successful

No. 2417184

>>2417170
>implying asian food can't be good
i admit that asian food outside of their country of origin tends to be shit but if you actually go to japan, you'll probably find some awesome food

No. 2417190

>>2417184
I never said it wasn’t good, it’s just weird there’s a bunch of them talking like pretentious hipsters about asian food and also about anime which the anime always looks like shit lmao

No. 2417880

Is anyone else listening to the cia tapes?

No. 2417884

>>2417128
>masc elsie art
? ive never seen that

No. 2417970

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>muh age of aquarius is going to be SOOOO good with society being equitable
>muh pluto in aquarius
In reality it’s just going to be this kek
https://thebeautifultruth.org/the-basics/what-is-technofeudalism/
Lol those astrology tards don’t know what “equitable” or “egalitarian” they are talking about, honestly. Think of that Wall-E movie where society “advanced” so much most people could sit on their ass and waste away, because all of the work worth a shit (stuff that got food in people’s grocery stores and tables, keep their electricity up, plumbing and not all of that bullshit fluff that defined the middle-class) was downscaled. I used to think that movie was full of shit but honestly.. you’re going to have even more useless people. I think people now are already useless and that’s why they don’t give a fuck. Why would they pretend to care about you when their plans are going according to their own agenda? Stop screaming about healthcare and “lack of pay”, you want that shit for jobs that never mattered and shouldn’t have existed lol. You’ve been rightfully thrown away, it was intentional and most people don’t care because they are still begging and waiting for the same shit that only worked in a certain era, wanting the old ways to always work is just retarded.

No. 2417989

>>2417970
Hi dad! Wow, you've integrated really well

Jk but I sometimes wish I could show lolcow to my dad, he has a raging hateboner for Musk and would love his /snow/ thread. He's totally convinced of our techno feudalist future

No. 2418132

>>2417970
I don't think we're going to end up with technofeudalism. I think these giant corporations are the means to an end of our world elite to re-establish plain old feudalism.

No. 2418134

>>2417970
I used to think communists were retarded but I am starting to think communism might be the only way the average person might have a decent life. we really need to get rid of billionaires before they enslave mankind. we're going to be paying amazon to breath oxygen at some point.

No. 2418185

>>2418134
In theory, communism really is the key to humanity getting as close to a "utopia" as possible. The downside is that society has ran off greed and corruption for so long I really don't think communism would ever be executed in a fair and proper way. I think humans are way too tribal and greedy and want to pull the ladder up after them (if that's the right figure of speech).
I don't even think being a billionaire should be a thing. Once you reach that billionaire status you should be made to contribute a large amount of it back into public services to better the country you live in. This is more important now than ever because the average person's view of a "decent life" like you said has dropped in quality and material power compared to how it was pre-2007. We're working twice as hard with half of the rewards and hard work doesn't pay anymore in most industries.

No. 2418317

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what is going on

No. 2419071

>>2417970
I believe and as I posted before in last thread, might be more in the lines of exterminism. Killing lots of people and enjoying a rather cozy automated planet

No. 2419078

>>2418317
Twitterfag cow drama, it’s boring as fuck unless someone wants to make a thread about those types of tards but what would anybody call it?? I don’t know what to call those people, including the retarded woman in that picture.

No. 2419088

>>2418132
It literally just explained that in that article and technology is going to accelerate that, you’re just allergic to new ideas and reading apparently.
>>2418134
Communism would never work. Humans are too crippled, weak, stupid, tribalistic and selfish to have it work. Imagine constantly needing some despotic moid to whip you back into the shape because you can’t act right to maintain the stuff that actually makes civilizations liveable and fair? Yeah, no. Also men don’t want an equal planet, their biological makeup is the antithesis of egalitarianism. Trying to force that is going to lead you into way more trouble.

No. 2419156

>>2418317
i need the milk on the rawsalerts furfaggot i cannot find anything on the other farms

No. 2419649

>>2419559
Here's my guess:
>be average Japanese boy or man
>want to watch a fun anime after school or work
>turn on TV, find some show you may or may not like of whatever genre
>watch the episode for 25 minutes
>rinse and repeat once a week until the season is over
>if it's a fun anime maybe read the manga or novels at a cheap manga cafe or buy the series for dirt cheap in a second hand bookstore
>maybe look for other similar stories if it was really fun to read or watch or post a tweet once every 6 months "I liked the recent anime about [whatever] it was very fun!" or something like that

Compare this to:
>be average Western guy
>watch some random anime episodes on TV long ago after work or school
>it's very different from live action shows and fun in its own way so you look up other what other fun anime there is online
>turns out there's a shit ton of fun manga and anime about a lot of differenr genres, topics and for different demographics but not all of them are or were readily available where you are, you've been filtered all along
That's where the split happens:
>normal, well adjusted Western anime fan will simply watch whatever seems fun on TV or streaming platforms and will call it a day, will maybe become nostalgic for whatever shonenslop he grew up with in middle school, is unlikely to troon out and is likely to have other hobbies and interests
>dedicated, well adjusted anime fan will actively follow new releases, will maybe buy some Naruto tshirts from Uniqlo and will go to anime cons if he can afford it, is unlikely to troon out and likely to have many other hobbies and interests
>autistic dedicated Western anime fan is more likely to troon out and base his trannysona on some garbage genderbent harem anime slop character, believing that women act just like anime waifu because nothing else matter and will advertise it all over the internet all the time

Basically it's a matter of proportions and how Western fans have to more actively become fans in the first place so normal guys who could have liked some anime series if they knew about them are less likely to drown out the more vocal troons.

No. 2419672

>>2419559
I think it might be because degenerate anime shows pander to western degeneracy, meaning that their target demographic is western males, whereas normie anime series are catered towards a japanese audience. Kinda like how china has its own version of tiktok

No. 2419681

>>2419672
Not really, the main audience for anime is still Japan and the anime that Western troons like are originally targeting a male Japandse otaku audience. And these same Japanese men have very similar interests and fetishes as Western troons but still don't transition as often. Or the ones that do keep it to themselves a lot more often while people in the West in general are a lot more likely to publicly posts about their personal lives and their selfies.

>normie anime series are catered towards a japanese audience

Normie Westerners can also be into these same anime now that it's easier than ever to find series you can like online as opposed to relying on what's on tv but it's true that they're not enough and not vocal enough compared to Western hardcore otaku.

No. 2419702

>>2419559
Same reason why furries and witches have grown high in number, western schools and parents stopped pressing "fantasy is fantasy, reality is reality" so much on their children.
Imagine a kid reads Harry Potter and thinks they might be a wizard. A parent can go "lmao no" and hammer that shit down. Might make the kid feel bad about how they'll never be a wizard but they'll get used to it and will keep having fun watching Harry do cool shit.
A parent that plays into it, the kid might end up jumping off the roof thinking they might be able to fly.

No. 2419749

>>2419559
Japanese culture is okay with degeneracy if you keep it seperate from your public / everyday life. They are also a conservative, collectivistic, shame-based society. America is hyper-individualisti, heterogeneous society with long a history of racism. Through that, intersectionality and the focus on individual identity evolved. We encourage people to be themselves and be unique. So when you have a mix of LGBT activism, emphasis on self-reflection and identity, and political focus in culture (along with direct encouragement of troonshit in media and academia), you get people trooning out. Troons also permeate through the online space and groom other nerdy autists into trooning out. Think about all of the nerdy men and women in Discord servers for hobbyists who get exposed to constant troon talk and troon activism and then start to wonder if they might be trans themselves!

Japanese people view weebshit as an escape. For example, Japanese fujoshis know it's by women and for women. Americans / anglosphere westerners think that yaoi has to be some LGBT political representation thing. All those straight women fujoshis are fetishizing gay men!! What if you were actually a gay man on the inside instead? - is the thought process.

No. 2420150

Everything is socially contagious, particularly two important forces - hope and despair.

TPTB want to keep you in a state of despair because a woman without hope is just the walking dead. If you killed the hope in a person, you killed their essence. They won't do anything because they don't believe anything can be done. Hence doomscrolling was invented. To promote the contagion of despair so nobody believes they can change things.

But I really don't understand how anyone can fall for the black pill. If you look at history, the only constant is change. No matter how big or powerful or long lasting an empire or system is, it will fall, it always falls.

And no matter how bleak things seem, there's always that one thing left at the bottom of Pandora's box. Hope. And when it starts spreading, it's contagious as fuck.

No. 2420172

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The child explotation in elite groups stuff has faded in and out of popularity for years now and I'm aware it's a low hanging fruit of a conspiracy but I'm curious of what you nonnas think of recent news that's come out about things, especially with the Diddy case and how far that really goes, and also mentions of demonic and satanic stuff - do you think that's a reach or do you think it's believable?

Justin Bieber is looking like shit lately and it's heavily implied that he was groomed or underwent some form of abuse from older men in the industry when he was younger. All the news articles I've read about him have blamed his dishevelled appearance on some sort of financial issues but if you ask me they're placing bricks in place to use that as a scapegoat if he ends up "killing himself" or overdosing.
I personally think that Diddy, much like with Epstein, is just being placed on the guillotine now for people to focus on him and not the others who are pulling the strings. It's very rare that stuff like this is just isolated incidents especially with how insidious Hollywood is.

No. 2420181

>>2420172
You can check out this thread >>>/ot/1166213 to see discussions regarding child abuse in Hollywood and the entertainment industry.

Personally, I don't think JB looks disheveled at all, at least not in that picture. He looks like a normal 30 year old. He's quite a well-known stoner too.

No. 2420187

abusive victim nonnie(integrate)

No. 2420190

>>2420172
JB has been mentally fucked for a long time. i'm certain that Usher abused and groomed Justin in the same way that Diddy abused Usher. i.e take them to depraved satanic sex parties when underaged.

No. 2420196


No. 2420203

>>2420187
Toxic terf

No. 2420220

>>2420172
Of course, Diddy was only the one that got caught, maybe because he was so cocky, weird and particular about it. With him it was obvious because of the shady parties he used to host and the videos with him and young artists, or even the fact that he and his friends had custody of minors. But I do believe it's a thing that many elite people practice. After all we already got our confirmations with both Epstein and Diddy, it's not as unbelievable now.
But I also believe it's not that simple. For example, I think JB was groomed and then became an active and willing participant in adulthood. He most likely became the abuser at some point, and many like him which is why no one snitched for a long time (aside from the fact that some were threatened/killed).
I don't fully believe in the satanic stuff. I think it's an aesthetic rich pretentious edgy fuckers love to use at their sick orgy parties with children, but nothing supernatural actually goes on or that they're an organized cult.

No. 2420647

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>>2420644
Nah it's pretty easy, they use one of these with a latex/silicone vagina and even legs. It started in Brazil and then Hollywood basements found out about it

No. 2420667

>>2420647
This actually makes sense. She probably just used a fake lower body or something. It would still be traumatic having to watch 100 moids fuck a torsoless sex doll hence her thousand yard stare.

No. 2420675

>>2420672
I misread and thought it was referring to the woman who slept with one hundred moids. But one thousand? I feel like that would result in death.

No. 2420676

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>>2420667
>brave nona who ignored the ridiculous picrel and saw the logic in this
Here is your reward
>According to some pornographic actors, including Aurora Snow, James Deen and Keiran Lee, fluffers are no longer needed, saying that the role might have existed in the past, but disappeared due to medical advancements, such as Viagra and implants, and with advancements in prosthetics.
Picrel is an example of how lifelike they can make these things and will probably be removed but oh well

No. 2420766

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>>2420681
There was a few documentaries in the 90s where they show off the prosthetic thing. They'll have standard sex with a few moids and then go into the black box for the gang bang part. Everyone has seen those breast chest plate things, it's kind of like that with a sex doll attached. The idea that someone wouldn't use prosthetics to simulate a gangbang is much crazier than hundreds of women deciding to do this on camera. Or starring in violent gang bang porn and then "sharing your trauma" otherwise known as promoting the footage to moids who get off on legitimate trauma/pain who might not have seen it yet or will rewatch now that they know how much she has allegedly suffered. I feel like a-logging when I see women complain about the popularity of these clips, after they go on podcasts every scrote listens to, like "Call her Daddy" to "trauma dump" about them

No. 2420854

>>2420766
Wow that’s interesting. I mean I already called these women whores which they are but a lot of people have this weird misconception that porn is real, even the anti-porn crowd. It’s entirely fake and scripted like movies and like you said, the prosthetics like how they use for FX makeup to create illusions. I mean prom really is just entertainment mimicking the real actual thing, which gets anti-porn moralfags in a tizzy because they know it’s just projected degeneracy that happens behind closed doors, they’re only angry about pork because it showcases things that happen in the dark to the light that they have likely participated in. I still think it’s degenerate and disgusting but my honest tinfoil now that you shared that information that porn is just a fake smokescreen, all of those “sex trafficked” women must be going somewhere else maybe organ harvesting farms, underground surrogacy farms, drug smugglers, sweatshops?. There also seems to be a confusion on personal revenge porn and sex trafficking too, which is awful and should be legally punished but hm, this got me thinking ngl

No. 2420864

>>2420854
I really doubt the majority of all porn produced is 'fake' in the sense that it uses prosthetics, I'm sure actually most porn is rape on tape, but for big name pornstars they almost have to be using prosthetics majority of the time.

No. 2420866

>>2420854
I don't think this is the case the majority of the time.

No. 2420900

>>2420864
Honestly I don’t know, I think a lot of it is fake.
>>2420866
Disagree

No. 2421043

Jews aren’t the true enemy, they’re scapegoats for the black nobility - the true Illuminati.(schizoposting)

No. 2421050

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>>2420864
>I really doubt the majority of all porn produced is 'fake' in the sense that it uses prosthetics
It wasn't for a while, there was legitimate "rape on tape" that was all removed and replaced with fake content. Not to be gross but you can tell cum (female/male) is fake most of the time. A lot of it is tricky camera work, editing/filters and prosthetics with hosing/wiring. Scrotes complain about the sanitization of porn but these companies don't want to get sued by all of the (underage) women who were featured in the videos. It's a way to keep control over the content and not have to deal with the fallout from lawsuits/etc

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3172678/pornhub-deletes-9-million-amateur-videos-will-now-only-allow-content-from-official-content-partners-and-members-of-their-model-program

No. 2421156

>>2418317
First three is propaganda pushing, last 2 is just moid retardation

No. 2421206

>>2421050
But most porn isn't fake. Squirt is fake, cum can be fake, but pretending the majority of porn uses prosthetics simply isn't true.

No. 2421638

>>2421050
>>2421206
yeah, the idea that most cheap studio barely making even take time to "fake" with wiring prosthetics and fake cum instead of just making them bang (like the standard since always) is really silly. Maybe one of the bigger studios would actually care to fake the sex part (or for real movies it's known they do that) but to go trough all that trouble instead of paying junkies to have sex is pretty nutty.
At most the bigger studios use fake cum specifically for gangbangs cuz moid brain but it's not standard at all.

No. 2421691

Why the fuck are chemtrails staying in the air for so long and getting so big

No. 2421694

>>2421206
>everything's fake except the thing I haven't heard about yet!
k

No. 2421701

Anyone noticing how much the dead internet theory is so fucking true? Like there’s probably the same 20-40 people browsing this website and were probably the only real people on the internet among like 500 people who are likely real and go on the internet kek. I don’t believe popular YouTubers are really getting true, authentic large amounts of views and money, it reminds me of that whole claim that the US was paying loads of money for dead SSI recipients, there’s no fucking way anybody is truly famous on the internet.

No. 2421709

>>2421701
It all started with Web 2.0 and the advent of the Social Web. Corporations quickly realized the unlimited potential for laundering schemes. The majority of all content on the WWW is a byproduct of sophisticated money laundering efforts by business entities.

No. 2421737

>>2421701
It really fucks with you mentally cause yeah there are many bot accounts replying misinfo or infighting when certain topics are mentioned. BUT if you accept that this is a thing that happens online, how do you know anyone on the internet is real at all? Where do you draw the line? It's scary to think about but we seem to be getting only more confirmation of it lately

No. 2421777

>>2421737
There’s also a whole lot paid to spread propaganda. So if you’re not responding to a bot, you could just be responding to a paid government shill. the amount of accounts like this are highly underestimated.

No. 2421851

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Celebrities are homonculi. They are artificial humans which is why so many of them look like crossbreeds, hybrids, non-human in some aspects. Because they aren’t human they constantly need “maintenance” to be alive, Harvey Pasternak didn’t just put Kanye in the nutter house for no reason, they go to these nutter houses and certain hospitals (Mount Sinai hospital is oddly popular with celebrities and the wealthy) to give them their maintenance. I would assume that’s what those “performance drugs” he was giving to other celebrities besides Kanye was, but I truly believe they aren’t humans and this isn’t a compliment. It’s why they always felt so incomplete to me, think of Pinnochio and Geppetto where Pinnochio only has childlike fixations and nothing else, there are non complex feelings or emotions. Some become a bit rebellious and want to overcome the grip of their masters and creators, which is why so many of them die early.

No. 2421861

>>2421851
>That the sperm of a man be putrefied by itself in a sealed cucurbit for forty days with the highest degree of putrefaction in a horse's womb ["venter equinus", meaning "warm, fermenting horse dung"[2]], or at least so long that it comes to life and moves itself, and stirs, which is easily observed. After this time, it will look somewhat like a man, but transparent, without a body. If, after this, it be fed wisely with the Arcanum of human blood, and be nourished for up to forty weeks, and be kept in the even heat of the horse's womb, a living human child grows therefrom, with all its members like another child, which is born of a woman, but much smaller.[3]: 328–329 
Kekk anon, it's allegorical. They don't make a little shit man. On the right track tho

No. 2421902

>>2421861
Do you not know what the art of alchemy is?? It went allegorical

No. 2421903

>>2421902
*it wasn’t(learn2delete)

No. 2422131

>>2421902
Damn nona you believe in alchemy? Are there any recipes I could try? Genuinely asking.

No. 2423888

>>2421701
I don't know a single person in real life who doesn't use the Internet aside from my grandfather. It's hard for me to imagine that nobody is genuinely Internet famous.

I honestly think part of it has to do with the average age of an Internet user decreasing every year, so many "bot" comments are little kids posting from their mama's phone. Not saying the Internet isn't rife with bots but a surprising amount of human posts could be mistaken for bots. A lot of people are straight up re tarded.

No. 2423945

There’s foreign and government interference on this website.

No. 2423948

>>2423888
No, dead internet theory is real. Fuck off with your retarded rehearsed responses
>”oh haha no dearie that doesn’t exist, look the other way!”
>using the word “mama”
You’re so obvious.

No. 2423958

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>>2421902
It's allegorical but references actual chemical compounds and real matter. It's not like a recipe book and specifically created this way so that that cave-dwellers can't figure it out, since knowledge is power

No. 2424030

>>2423945
And we're called crazy for stating it, mocked even

No. 2424160

>>2424030
>>2423945
What do you mean? Are you talking about the weird way how anyone pointing out the blatant foreign interference's influence on our recent political downfall suddenly gets sealioned or gaslit by anons trying to convince you there's nothing to see and nothing to worry about, pay no attention to the fire in the kitchen while the smoke alarm is screaming in the background?

No. 2424164

>>2424160
god and I hate how other people just eat it up, why isn’t it obvious to them?

No. 2424167

>>2424160
>takes large sip of FBI-brewed coffee

No. 2424181

>>2423958
You’re autistic. Look up elixir of life and philosopher’s stone, the occultist interpretations of pinnochio, etc. I’m done talking to plebians kek
>>2424030
Of course
>>2424160
I hope you schizos aren’t samefagging or trolling about being genuine tinfoilers but yeah, it’s why real opinions get immediately deleted and/or redtexted while others that feel like they were ran by some pro-Democrat script is being prioritized. It’s honestly spooky
>>2424167
>tabletop meme
Autist or scrote

No. 2424183

>>2424181
I already know what those things are and that you're wrong. I think a central part of the superficial persona you've created relied on the idea of you knowing ~esoteric secrets~ like this. Oh well, maybe you're good at art or tracing

No. 2424208

>>2424160
I am, yes

No. 2424351

>>2424183
I’m sure you do lmfao, imagine feeling threatened by someone in the tinfoil thread of all places. Oh no I believe in the occult.. like every single conspiracy theorist ever? You’re lacking a soul

No. 2424402

It's so obvious to me that this website and Kiwifarms share a huge overlap in userbase, to the point where I can recognize some of the farmers here by their KF accounts. Especially when they talk about politics, it's always the same regurgitated talking points that only autistic Thunderdome users use.

No. 2424594

>>2424164
At this point it's not even a tinfoil, it couldn't be any more plain or blatant, but some people cope with this cartoonish level of villainy and bullshit going on by sticking their heads in the sand and denying it. The interference has been successful, yes, based on a weak minded, easy to manipulate populace conditioned into a lack of critical thinking and knee jerk reactions through a reliance on social media; the exact goal that was laid out is being completed. That isn't to say it isn't going to bite these so-called puppet master in the ass from time to time because their puppet is a loose cannon who mostly does what he wants, but the main goals are taken care of.

No. 2424622

>>2424594
It's been posted about in these threads for years. I would agree that it's now no longer tinfoil.
>That isn't to say it isn't going to bite these so-called puppet master in the ass
It already is. The western elites weakened their own populations making them more susceptible to propaganda so that no one would revolt, only this has also made people in the west equally prone to falling for propaganda from Russia and China. What is even real at this point?

No. 2425805

>>2423958
youre the only anon on this fucking site who understands alchemy
>>2424181
youre a gay moron and brobably think that 'early jordan peterson was actually smart' also

No. 2425836

>>2425805
>they’re the only person who understands alchemy
Woahhh, you actually can’t talk to plebians kek. It’s like your level of understanding hits a certain ceiling while others, there’s no reason to explain things to people who don’t even have a soul or spirit to begin with.

No. 2425841

Imagine seething because someone is more “spiritually-inclined” than another person and actually understands that yes, alchemical practices do include elements related to life and what the fuck do you think that includes retard???? CLONING, creation, biological engineering, transhumanism, if you can’t even properly engage in this thread without trying to call people “schizos” and “insane” for using the correct thread in the first place then get the fuck out already, you can’t even connect the fucking dots that there are people high and above you who know way more than you who are obviously into that stuff and have shown it repeatedly time and time again, but I guess this is for soulless people who want to prove how “smurt” they are for repeating the same inane and surface-level garbage, proving that autists are hollows. If you’re autistic stay out of soulful conversations and stop getting upset people believing in higher powers and the occult, your mind lacks imagination and variety. Anyways, America is probably still owned by the British.

No. 2425844

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Yeah bro there’s nothing to see here, not like there’s thousand of years of alchemical knowledge that is connected to spirituality, lol disregard! Like fuck off already, tired of fucking faggots always telling me I don’t know shit about anything, I clearly do because I’m not a fucking atheistic midwit.

No. 2425971

>>2425844
Ok but how tf do I learn alchemy it looks really cool. Any book recommendations

No. 2426614

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Thoughts on flat earth/ ice walls?

No. 2426616

>>2417117
>I'm sexually attracted to 2D cartoons
>You're just severely autistic
Wait what

No. 2426862

>>2426614
Cool idea for a fantasy novel.

No. 2426882

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>>2426614
I like the ones where they loop around to it being a ball again

No. 2426908

>>2426614
>asgard
Nona do you really think this is real

No. 2426974

>>2425971
I don’t currently have any book recommendations, I wish I could tell you which good book to read but a lot of it I feel is a bit more spiritual for people who just want to read it to understand the full history and use of it (even though I know it definitely had a connection with witchcraft kek). I still currently have to do more research on it, but it’s way more than just “muh allegory!!” but you can look up alchemical symbols and properties as well. I would just research it on your own tbh, it’s kind of hard anyways since a lot of stuff was likely destroyed, stolen, etc. during the Middle Ages

No. 2426977

>>2426614
This one makes more sense to me. It dispels a lot of myths about the creation of the world to me. It’s very obvious that the biblical God did not create everyone and definitely did not create this planet, and there were likely species and life here before he “made chaos out of order”. There’s a female goddess named Tiamat who used to represent this chaos (the original state of the world) and many more beings, but people don’t mention or make these connections because ofc people are more comfortable with having a big daddy in the sky (or saturn’s lullabies) to pray to and worship despite the origins of humanity have a huge dark past. Besides that I don’t know, but I get the idea on the world dictating how you view reality even if most of the constructed reality is false so I understand flat earthers and their valid paranoia

No. 2426983

>>2426977
>she doesnt know about the Two from the One
>she doesnt know about the mad twin and mother of all monsters

No. 2426991

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>>2426983
Fill me in nonny what are you talking about? Also I meant to put this picture as an example of what I agreed with for my post >>2426977

No. 2427038

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>>2426991
hehe sorry for being facetious. im referencing some gnostic/classical prechristian ideas.
>the Two from the One
this is in reference to pythagorean monadism, which is a source of gnostic ideas. pythagoras believed in an 0rder of numbers that reflects the 0rder of the universe; as two evolves from one, duality emerges from totality. the Dyad emerges from the Monad and with it introduces primeval suffering (otherness, division, the pain of separation).
the Monad is perfect totality and unity. it is the self-contained Point of matter. it is Something but it is All Somethings, and Anything must therefore be included in it, and be it, and outside it is Nothing (apeiron; the underfined, the boundless).
the Dyad is the original injury, like the Amfortas wound (in more ways than the obvious). the Dyad is the first instance of Two, separated, with a boundless infinite gulf between them. you can think of the Monad as a circle, and the Dyad as two circles who overlap like a ven diagram, with the overlap erased (not a coincidence that this is a vulval shape). But more than injury and introduction of chaos into the heart of matter, the Dyad is equally a Door to infinity, and the portal (portal in the sense of "door") that creates the Many from the One (the Monad). Thus this "wound" is also an essential point of connection between the Many and the One.
This idea of a cosmic order reflected perfectly in the evolution of numbers a favourite of mine is also reflected in the story of Tiamat. Tiamat, the goddess of the waters of Chaos, was slain by the storm god (I forget his name), and her body dismembered into many pieces which are scattered and become the cosmos (Many (material) evolving from One (divine)).

>the mother of monsters

Tiamat is also very relevant to this. Tiamat intermingled her waters (the primordial ocean, chaos, salt water) with the waters of Apsu, the source-god of all fresh water (ie, that water which facilitates life). God antics ensue but skipping forward, Tiamat gives birth to legions of monsters who kill Apsu and scatter over the world. Because she is the embodiment of chaos, Tiamat can only bring forth multitudinous evil.

I won't get into the twin thing but I would like to address the seed of misogyny you may have noticed in this explanation. The mother of monsters thing is a colourful illustration of the themes already present in the more clinical pythagorean mythology. There's a psychoanalyst that I really like who is not widely known (at least in my country) who had a central theory that all birth is essentially traumatic to the child because it is an extremely sudden introduction to a life as a discrete individual surrounded by Other discrete individuals. Using the pythagorean stuff as a scaffold; a fetus is not discrete, it is a part of its mother, the all-encompassing One (as a beautiful etymological aside, I'd like to note that the root for "paradise" is the PIE for "enclosure, enclosed space"). As far as it is aware there is Nothing outside of the One which it exists not just as a part of, but as. Birth is the wound that creates the first Dyad, severing baby from mother. This is the Amfortas wound we all as human beings share. I believe that moids develop serious resentment towards women for this wound because 1. they lack empathy and are unable to reconcile feelings of maternal ambivalence (women get a head start on this because we have to consider the possibilities of being mothers ourselves, also we are generally more intelligent and can empathise) and 2. they understand on some unconscious level the vagina as a reflection of the Door from the One to the Many and thus the only real point of connection between the spiritual and the material and are seethingly jealous because this reminds them that they are essentially filthy hylics who have been divided permanently from paradise.

No. 2427044

>>2427038
(my picrel isnt a good representation of the more spiritual dyad idea i wrote with the centre erased, it instead shows how a point becomes a line as one becomes two and thus pythagoras' rudimentary understanding of dimensions)

No. 2427054

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>>2427044
but then again it is a good display of how, even living in the illusion world of discrete material severed from Others, we can be happy because we all originate from the One, and thus we are always connected to each other!

No. 2427084

>>2427038
The monad imo is the primordial chaos, what existed before. I want to know though nonny how does Yahweh and the other gods fit into this? I’m curious and have been trying to figure this out for awhile now, because it makes zero sense on how some invisible scrote can be the only creator of this universe and how one god can “fulfill” everything and “be everything” despite their being other gods who fulfill everything you know??

No. 2427091

Columbine shooting was a fabricated incident. And many more people were involved besides Eric and Dylan.That’s why all information about it from the time is being wiped from the internet. There are court cases that are sealed until the 2100s, this is stuff they don’t want anyone alive to know.

No. 2427100


No. 2427115

>>2427100
There are different theories as to why. But a major one is because they wanted to push gun regulations.
Mind Shock/Bruce Maguire have really good podcast where he goes through witness accounts that claim there were more shooters, case documents, theories ect. Also the website research columbine is really good and informative, it has almost everything.
Mind Shock Columbine podcast: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVsHlWhRW4zz16rTETZ7ySVNpAXKR4PKh&si=38suQHfrDVfLWGtl
Research Columbine: https://www.researchcolumbine.com/tie-dye-shirt.html

No. 2427159

>>2427091
>>2427115
>fabricated to push gun laws
lol no. I hope no one seriously believes this because this is the same excuse conservatives always push after a school shooting because they worship their boomsticks, the lives of children be damned. Looking at what's going on now, they don't have to take your guns to subdue you when you roll over on your bellies and let them dismantle everything this country was founded upon. Propaganda and conditioning through social media has been far more effective.

No. 2427218

>>2427110
So this is 100% a humiliation ritual, right?

No. 2427236

China does not have 1.1 billion people. Anyone who believes in any number they give have fallen for their propaganda. Realistically, they have about 700M people

No. 2427245

>>2427236
Why would they lie?

No. 2427360

im fed up people coming into this thread, saying some random theory and not explaining at all

No. 2427372

>>2427159
NTA. I don't think Columbine was fabricated, but I absolutely believe that the government does radicalize men into committing school shootings in order to pass gun laws to dearm the population. Even if the government isn't directly talking to these men and worsening their mental health in order to create these shootings, the media definitely heroizes and obsesses over school shooters in order to create more. It's a social contagion in the same way that suicide and trannyism is. So you have to ask yourself why the media would push them so much and cause this social contagion. And if you want a direct contrast of them doing the opposite, look at Luigi. World's biggest thing until they caught him, then suddenly every media dropped it. Meanwhile, they're still talking about the shootings that happened years ago, and bringing up the shooter and the full details anytime anything in the case changes or it's an anniversary.
>>2427236
I wish this is true, but it's probably not. We can actually measure how many people are in China by how much carbon dioxide they give off. That's how we knew that more people were dying from covid then they were letting on in the first month, because the carbon dioxide of the infected city suddenly plummeted in a way that couldn't be explained unless ten times the number of people had died.

No. 2427453

>>2427159
>no this isn’t true
Why do you anti-conspiracy people keep coming into this thread if you don’t believe in anything beyond the fucking status quo? Leave people the fuck alone in this thread if you can’t handle this level of conversation, stay in your retarded ignorance
>>2427115
I believe you, I definitely do anon. Don’t let the other idiots say they don’t plan these events, they seriously underestimate how this world truly functions. They won’t even click the links, won’t even further engage, that’s how you figure out if someone is an NPC or not ready to reinforce the status quo back into your life when you begin to step out of line on how the world wants you to think about reality. Thank you for the interesting video you linked I will definitely watch it and go over the links. Wasn’t one of their parents involved with the feds before the event or was that false? Maybe I’m thinking of another mass tragedy. I already thought this but that whole Trump assassination kid really sealed the deal for me, especially since he was in a Blackrock commercial. Another one that was also creepy was that Ulvade shooting where the police, piggies who are always ready to unload lead at a toddler on the street who decides to flinch in their presence, decided to stay out from doing their jobs. Quite odd.

No. 2427491

>>2427453
I'm not anti-conspiracy but I have standards as to what I deem plausible and what's put out there to bait and confuse people into believing something equally bullshit. Just because it's an alternative theory to the mainstream doesn't mean it's true, that's where a lot of people go wrong; "X was a lie, so Y must be true!" as if everything's black and white with no middle ground. You can believe it if you want, but I don't have to think it's legit. Do you think Sandy Hook deaths were fake, too? One should also think about why someone would benefit from a certain narrative and saying Columbine being faked to push gun laws only serves the NRA who certainly don't give a fuck about the average citizen and are as corrupt as any lobby.

No. 2428060

>>2427453
Jfc I believe the Columbine anon too and I've been researching the subject for a while but you're so annoying. You keep sperging out whenever anons have a different opinion than you ever since you joined the threads, you're so easy to identify because you keep repeating the exact same shit.
God I miss the original threads from years ago before we had retards come here to infight about sunscreen, veganism and try to dictate what topics are allowed here
>muh politisperging
>muh we can only talk about spiritual tinfoils

No. 2428138

>>2426977
I never heard of any of those. Tell me more I'm interested. Is Tiamat from specific religion? Or?

No. 2428267

>>2428060
No you’re clearly just retarded and subtly trying to tell people they’re wrong for having a conspiracy theory in the conspiracy theory thread. You can fuck off
>>2427491
Nobody is here to prove if it’s definitively true or the definitive truth, conspiracy theories are boring if you just think in such a mechanical, detached way. That’s why this thread is so fucking boring, it’s just another dumping frown for politispergs and TRUST DA SCIENCE!!!! spergs coming in here to reinforce to status quo and stop your brain from thinking outside of the box. If you can’t think outside of the box in the outside of the box, wacky thread then why the fuck are you in this thread and what do you truly have to offer that we can’t find on Reddit where they keep the conversations painfully surface-level? Like seriously?

No. 2428287

>>2428138
Tiamat is the ancient Mesopotamian goddess of the primordial waters (salt water oceans). Think Epic of Gilgamesh times

No. 2428315

>>2427453
Yes, Erics father was an ex fbi agent and his parents have never made any statements after the incident. Sue Klebold (Dylans mother) has made statements that she believes Dylan and Eric were under MK-ultra mindcontrol. Which also is a popular theory. Eric took heavy anti-depressants and Dylans medical records nor autopsy has never been released.

No. 2428395

>>2428138
Yes what >>2428287 said, but look up ancient astronaut theory and the Annunaki as well
>>2428315
Oh that’s interesting. I wonder why she did this Ted Talk though kek

No. 2428399

>>2417109
How will AI and mass means of production for animation by basically all countries affect kawaii culture though

No. 2428487

>>2427038
Thank you for this nona, who is the psychologist you referred to? Is it maybe Lacan? I'd like to read more about this.

No. 2428495

>>2420172
I don't believe in satanic stuff. I do believe in more individual cults with esoteric leanings or connections to malicious Mason groups (so things like Scientology, Royal Order of Jesters, Transcendental Meditation, Children of God, and other more micro cults with connections to Hollywood people) but the satanism crap seems very generalized and like a misunderstanding. many a Hollywood celebrity does have connections to a malicious smaller cult but I don't believe in a world order or "greater agenda" because that goes against human nature. No humans even elite humans would be able to work together long enough to actually engage and participate in a larger "order"

No. 2428504

>>2420220
JB allegedly infected women with herpes without them knowing and it was brushed under the rug.

No. 2428506

>>2428495
It’s a world order and you’re retarded if you clearly can’t see it. You’re not smart for deliberately ignoring the facts and deciding to be “rational”, you’re engaging in ignorant denialism.

No. 2428547

>>2428506
There are no "facts" about satanic woo woo panic religious crap. Stop visiting /pol/. Human beings are literally too retarded to work together to engage in an organized "new world order", connections and people knowing one another and protecting another under the guise of complicity is more like a conspiracy or organized crime. It's not an order. It's not a cabal. Go take your schizopills

No. 2428580

>>2427038
I love you gnosticism nonnie, I hope you post here forever.

No. 2428991

>>2428547
Go away glowie

No. 2429219

Going back on the Tiamat thing, I honestly feel like the reptilian conspiracy was a psyop. There’s been a strange ancient vendetta against serpents/lizard/reptile beings and I still don’t understand why kek. Fuck David Icke and his ugly ass, I hate whenever they just take some scrote’s words as bible (just like Alex Jones) when it’s obvious they’re bought out controlled opposition. Anyways this seems interesting: https://beeper1520.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-legend-of-annu-nagi-mythology-and.html?m=1

No. 2429223

>>2428315
When did she say that? I've read her book and watched her TedTalk.

No. 2429285

>>2428991
Stop being an antisemitic simpleton retard bitch. There is no cabal, and you don't know how Hollywood corruption actually works. You are too stupid to actually know how it works. The interworkings of fixers, micro cults, lawyers and how they protect rapist pigs are completely unbeknownst to you because you'd rather default to screaming about the Illuminati than ever consider it's more complex than that. I wish you luck developing critical thinking skills. Xoxo(infighting)

No. 2429294

>>2429285
>antisemitic
>assumes the cabal is only just jewish people
>projection of their own antisemitism on to others while saying we don’t know anything
NTA but hahahaha and that’s when I entirely just stopped reading the fartsy rationalist bullshit you’ve been writing. We don’t need your faggot sign-off signatures in here either, good riddance.

No. 2429297

No one needs 'full body deodorant'. It's a marketing psy-op. All those 'hygiene routine' videos on tiktok are sponsored by Dove to sell more soap.

No. 2429321

>>2429297
It' so weird how pussy deodorant ads keep popping up. I see women spray deodorant down their towel or whatever and immediately think yeast infection. I don't get it. If you stink anywhere besides an armpit after a day you need a shower and to work on your normal hygiene routine or check your health at the doctor, not use some deodorant in a sensitive area. I made this about deodorant for vaginas basically but I think using it anywhere besides armpits is really ridiculous.

No. 2429367

>>2429294
Okay oversimplifying retard who lacks nuance and is trying to psyop the thread into believing satanic panic bs. Some of you bitches are dimmer than half a brick I swear to god

No. 2429388

Do not become swayed by the Demiurge and the people he has brainwashed into believing he is the one true god

No. 2429399

>>2429321
They are pushing non-aluminum deodorants because THEY DON'T WORK and the manufacturers KNOW THAT. So people use these shitty deodorants that don't work well on their own and require the user buy more products to compensate for their shitty deodorants. And of course this is amplified by people not washing their hair because its supposed to be better for their hair forgetting that hair holds onto odors. Natural hair sebum has an odor and even when claimed that it doesn't the environments we live in will produce odor that clings onto the hair (smoke, smog, pollution, cooking smells).

IT'S ALL CONNECTED.

No. 2429725

>>2429321
i fucking hate scented products marketed for women to use on their genitals. they're inherently misogynistic junk designed to make women hate their bodies and ignore their health. if a man is so repulsed by pussy that he demands you douse yours in perfume then he's probably a homo in denial and if your pussy has an unusual odor then you need to see a doctor, not buy deodorant

No. 2429726

>>2428487
I love Lacan, but I'm actually referring to didier Anzieu, specifically his theory of the skin-envelope. He was not big on lacan funnily enough, really pushed for a return to Freud (and to the organic/body) in psychoanalysis, which I really respect and kind of wish had more staying power. I think one of the funny things about Lacanian psychoanalysis is despite (one of) its purpose(s) being learning to understand (symbolise) incursions of the Real (as the analysand must in order to overcome psychic trauma/wounds without language which underlie pathological behaviour), it ends up just referring to itself (symbols referring to symbols referring to symbols forever) and avoiding the Real altogether. So it kind of becomes a justification for pathology rather than a way out. At least, this is my experience with Lacanian psychoanalysis lol.
>>2428580
I love you too anon!! I will always return, I love this thread for better or for worse kek.
>>2429219
Great link anon, totally agree about Icke.

No. 2429727

>>2428495
>No humans even elite humans would be able to work together long enough to actually engage and participate in a larger "order"
This is an absolutely insane thing to say. I think one of the things that pushed me from this mindset (very common) was reading in depth about the Cold War. That might sound stupid, but it's fucking insane just how under wraps everything was despite involving two of the largest militaries in the world. People are extremely good at keeping secrets when their lives or the lives of their loved ones are on the line. We got a glimpse of how extensive the networks of blackmail are in Hollywood circles with Epstein, but it's crazy to think that what came out was anything but the tiniest tip of the iceberg. It's important to note too that in extensive cults not everyone is fully in the know, most just have scraps of information fed to them for blackmail purposes.

No. 2429809

>>2429727
It's deep but it's not that kind of deep, much more disjointed, and doesn't involve satanism and "bloodlines" and all that utter nonsense

No. 2429814

>>2429399
How long one can go without washing their hair depends on the hair type and activities they engage in (as well as living environment as you said). I can get away with washing my hair just once a week, I still take daily showers though. People with thin and/or oily hair who use a lot of product definitely need to wash more. I agree as far as the deodorant scam.

No. 2429827

>>2429725
True. When I was still a preteen, a very based female doctor told me to NEVER wash my vulva with anything containing perfume, I never understood why until now. Now that I think about it, why are we putting PERFUME in our vaginas?! That's insane and unnecessary, our vulvas are supposed to smell fresh and healthy but that's it, no need for rose scents.

No. 2429904

>>2429827
Dicks have always been way more stinky and dirty than vaginas, which are self cleaning, but there is not a single product designed to specifically clean or perfume penises.

No. 2430166

>>2429219
Reptiles have always been evil though, regardless of what you think of David Icke.

No. 2430259

>>2430166
In order to be evil "reptilians" would actually have to exist, and they don't.

No. 2430873

>>2429809
Why are you here again?

No. 2432160

>>2430873
Because the rationalist side of conspiracy is still technically considered conspiracy you retard

No. 2432421

>>2432160
Yet you promote glowie propaganda and disinformation. Here’s my own conspiracy theory about you: you’re a disgruntled fed who’s at risk for unemployment due to orange man/mustrat’s government tampering, was part of the (compromised) Anonymous spergfest targeting orange man not too long ago and is now killing time with psyops and gaslighting on fringe sites whenever tinfoilfags get to the bottom of things in the guise of “rational thought”.

Times up, glowie, now gtfo.

No. 2432980

Do you think snuff films are real? I know they have always been debunked, but i am sure they are real. I remember hearing one of hugh hefner ex gfs saying that he used to get off to snuff films back in the 70s-80s, so they have been around for a while.

No. 2432983

>>2432980
I think they do exist but aren't, for many reasons, distributed beyond a very small group of people. There's no industry out there, making money on it, but there's been cases where someone has filmed a snuff situation and shared it.

No. 2433104

>>2432980
Hunter S. Thompson is alleged to have filmed a few of them involving children being hunted down and murdered by elites

No. 2433140

>>2432980
Daisy's Destruction turned out to be real.

No. 2433212

>>2432421
Okay David Icke dicksucker extraordinaire pol export always talking about the least interesting most socially irrelevant and debunked conspiracies, see you in the next life where we will all be reborn as stardust(infighting)

No. 2433287

>>2433104
what's your source on this? id be interested in reading more.

No. 2433309

>>2433212
>muh david icke
Get your retarded scrote ass away from this thread(infighting/scrotefoiling)

No. 2433330

>>2433140
it wasnt snuff, daisy is still alive

No. 2433373

>>2432980
Naive to think they don't exist.

No. 2433394

>>2432980
>>2432983
ISIS promotion videos exist and are/were deliberately made high budget.

No. 2433549

>>2433140
Alleged mk-ultra victims such as Paul Bonacci and Fiona Bartlett. Bonacci was allegedly involved in the Franklin coverup as a trafficking victim.

No. 2433845

>>2433330
The original that was passed around had three minor girls, one was an infant. The two older girls lived. The infant was tortured on camera and then buried off camera but discussed. When the two girls were rescued they confirmed this. It was part of the threats their abusers used to get them to comply. It isn't worth being nit picky about it. Those people did a vile evil thing to film and sell.

No. 2433851

>>2433845
did they actually rape a baby? i feel like i'm going to be sick

No. 2433868

>>2433851
They killed it and yes the two women were involved in preforming sexual assault on it. They were convicted of this. They went to jail. Peter Scully and Liezyl Margallo served time. The second female in the video was believed to be of age but during the filming may have been a minor. testimony about her is given but her name is never shared. The living children were Diasy and Liza. My understanding that they are both adopted with name changes from when they were purchased. I'm sorry for making you feel ill. Let's wish those two girls the best lives they can possibly have, they deserve it.

No. 2433897

>>2427115
thanks for sharing that website link columbine anon, it's making my weekend a lot more interesting. reminds me of when i did research into the las vegas shooter and jon benet ramsey.

No. 2433907

>>2432980
Just search for rekt threads on /gif/

No. 2433913

>>2432980
what is the difference between gore and stuff? People (mostly moids) film murdering people all the time

No. 2433914

>>2427115
In a perfect world, columbine would have made people come together and ban any males that exhibited feral behavior. The columbine kids were a ticking timebomb.

No. 2434219

>>2433913
Snuff is a video in which people are killed with the intent to sell and make a profit.

No. 2434465

>>2421050
This reminds me of one post I read on 4chan many years back. The poster claimed to work in the industry for many decades. He talked about prosthetics too but only penile ones. He said that before prosthetics in porn took off men were injecting their dicks with some sort of material or drug to finish the scenes in record time without having to take tons of takes. He said that the prosthetics changed the entire industry. He did not mention female prosthetics but I could see this being true with the popularity of extreme pornography these days that would probably put women in the hospital if they had to retake so many of the scenes.
None of the posters believed him either.

No. 2434837

>>2433330
You got a source for that? Because that's not how I remmeber the case.

No. 2435048

Tom Holland is a faggot.

No. 2435058

>>2435048
He seems like a relatively nice boy. He seems really into Zendaya so I don't see it

No. 2435064

>>2432980
i watched a documentary about snuff films a long time ago and in it one of the producers of the original texas chainsaw massacre said he was approached by some mexicans who wanted him to invest in their horror movies. they met up someplace shady (i think a motel) and showed him one of their films and it was real footage of a woman being murdered. the producer became frightened and told them he wasn't interested and fled. i can't remember if he reported it to the police (probably not) and the entire story could very well be bullshit but i thought i'd mention it. i definitely think snuff films exist and have for decades.

No. 2435077

>>2433140
Never heard about this until now but holy shit this guy doesn't deserve to live. And Josh Duggar has this shit on his computer??? They are so diseased it's beyond comprehension

No. 2435093

>>2435048
Lavender marriage kekekek

No. 2435104

i only trust female transvestigaters tbh male ones just make shit up to hide their latent homosexuality towards male celebs that they’re attracted to and wish were female so they can still be “straight”

No. 2435110

>>2435104
Female transvestigators are based. I like how conspiracy theories can believe in aliens, a cabal of secret societies running nations across the globe, and 5G causing cancer but believing that celebrities, who constantly always give the knee to trannies and gendies, could possibly be secret trannies themselves? No way!! Kek

No. 2435113

>>2435110
Uhh what female transvestigator has been right? I don't like troonshit but these women are usually equally as deranged as the men who do the same, but less motivated by any kind of chaser fetish shit

No. 2435116

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>>2435113
>linebacker built women ofc coming in to denounce tranny investigators
like clockwork

No. 2435137

>>2435048
This would explain why Zendaya is constantly working on new movies/TV shows and they barely seem to "retreat" together kek. I don't usually buy into gay celebrity tinfoils but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true for them.

No. 2435145

>>2434219
>>2432980
I don't understand why people insist these can't be real, they're probably not sold to a wide audience for obvious reasons but it's such a simple and believable concept.

No. 2435158

The japan psyop is unreal. “We need Japanese convenience stores here in the states!” no you stupid retard, you people don’t deserve and can’t have convenience stores or anything nice because burger fats are selfish and the Japanese know how to clean up after themselves and not steal shit out of the stores. You have too much genetic lumpenprole trash here to have anything nice and that’s exactly why America looks the way it does in many of its states, it damn near looks like a second-world country. I’m tired of stupid fucking weebs, anime truly was a CIA psyop.

No. 2435162

>>2435158
They probably say it because they want porn sold in the back. American convenience stores/corner stores are fine, and sometimes offer in-store made food like sandwiches. They just want the novelty of being able to buy hentai.

No. 2435169

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If there was nothing suspicious about it then why did
>the state passed a law to disallow citizens to access information that was granted by the 1967 freedom act
>forced the entire town to sign an NDA
>melted a building
>didn't use any yearbook photos/ student ID photos student IDs were implemented in the state by 2000

No. 2435174

>>2435162
They sell manga in those stores?? Kek the videos I’ve seen it’s just a bunch of exotic foods that these tards here want to try which is logistically impossible considering seafood here in the states is incredibly expensive and Japan heavily incorporates it into their cuisine. What is America anymore if we don’t have anything purely America?? They’re just hipsters who want to feel smurt and ~inclusive~ for trying foreign foods because they think every single American is an uncultured xenophobe

No. 2435178

>>2435169
Which state was this?
>buiding melted
Cloning farm or HAARP beam testing facility, take your pick.

No. 2435187

>>2435158
>>2435162
You are overthinking it way too much, people just want ready to eat meals that aren't just vaguely suspicious sandwiches, hot dogs, and salads. Not going to happen, but it's not because of 7/11 porn
Bentos seem nice. That's it.

No. 2435191

>>2435187
Another suburbanite who grew up getting their brains completely wiped and washed by anime full of softcore porn, pedophilia and occult imagery who thinks Japan = awesome! Yeah it’s almost like you should go somewhere else for food and it’s almost like America already has a bunch of “fast convenient food” places like hm.. I don’t know.. FAST FOOD. Kek(infight bait)

No. 2435212

>>2435187
Well why can't they just get a bento from a japanese restaurant or a food truck

No. 2435275

>>2435113
True. And if I had to choose, and had no other options, I would pick trannies over crazy women like this

No. 2435303

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This theory is pretty boring, but I think the reason why so many cultures had animal-headed gods is because, before civilisation "took off", some tribe leaders wore the skulls of creatures they killed to show their authority (it made them look bigger/scarier and showed off their power) and the idea just endured in mythology.

No. 2435306

>>2435303
>thinks it was people wearing animal masks to scare people
Kek, normalfags will never seize to amaze me with their typical bot solutions on worldly subjects. Yeah it was boring, think harder next time

No. 2435308

>>2435212
Because it doesn't haven't to be just Japanese food? It's just the concept of a boxed lunch that isn't incredibly unhealthy for you to eat daily.
>>2435191
Eating nothing but burgers is more of a brainwash. You do know theyve been fighting to scan your license plate using AI in order to personalize the menu to get you to buy more, right?

No. 2435310

>>2435275
Weird post

No. 2435317

>>2435306
nta but the nonna also said to manifest authority. I agree with OP and think the people we're also closer to animals and saw them as embodyment of virtues good or bad, essentially the OP nonna got it I think. Otherwise please delight us with your animal hear wearing secret knowlegde.

No. 2435333

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>>2435317
If nothing else that theory could be what planted the seed in humanity of "the person with the Big Fancy Hat is our leader" kek

No. 2435357

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>>2435333
Winning theory
Do you anons remember the Crazy Days and Nights "industry veteran" who revealed that Ariana Grande and Miranda Cosgrove were the only Nickelodeon victims who "would" participate in age-play with Schneider (meaning the other girls refused)? I can't find the caps now

No. 2435391

>>2435357
I remember the blinds about Hayden Panettiere and alluding to how she loved getting beat up by her partners, and she was part of this large coffee table book. This book was like a mail-order prostitution catalogue of famous/hot actresses people could order. To clarify, the book had pictures of the actress like the shots were for a magazine. According to the 'industry veteran' Hayden's mom was pimping her out.

No. 2435415

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>>2435391
Room 23 was created by Diana Jenkins. She's a crazy rich socialite with a lot of time on her hands. This is from reddit bc I'm lazy but it's accurate afaik
>She was married to a former Barclays executive, so not a c suite but still compensated handsomely. I think her divorce settlement was 40 million.

No. 2435425

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>>2435391
samefag Hayden comes from a weird incestual family and is super into into rough sex/hitting/punching/etc, she used to be photographed with huge bruises all over her legs but I can't find a single pic now. She has pretty serious issues and had relinquish custody of her daughter to her ex but I think she is sober now and finding work again. I don't think Diana's coffee table book had a lot to do with Hayden's issues or that it was genuinely an escort catalogue

No. 2436460

romantic love for women is a psyop created by men and i was the biggest buyer of that psyop. Now i am trying to break-free after years of ingesting that trash that only serves to make women ride-or-dies for men and excuse men's red flags.

Men view relationships as transactions while women view relationships as love or unions.

No. 2436462

>>2436460
You see sex as love and union, men view sex with you as transactional

No. 2436466

>>2436462
i know anon, that was the point of my post.
Also really pisses me off how romantic love is being shilled the most out of all the other forms of loves. We all know why it's being shilled the most tho.

No. 2436471

>>2436466
Moids can experience romantic love. They're just addicted to the initial stages, the same way they get addicted to any other good feeling

No. 2436547

>>2436460
Romantic love is just the honeymoon phase. The way I’ve heard older couples describe it is that they love each other like family and whom they have sex with once in a while. The novelty of romance or the intensity tends to fade the longer you're together, and it may come and go in small doses throughout the years.

No. 2436720

I generally believe the majority of religious leaders have already figured out that religion is false. They’re only doing it because it’s their job and also they get profit + power from it, but they don’t genuinely believe in religion. I also think this applies to most leaders and most wealthest and powerful people.

No. 2436724

>>2436460
>>2436462
Unironically the separation of sex and marriage is a moid psyop so they can get sex without any romantic commitment.

No. 2436745

>>2436724
>is a moid psyop
Was a moid psyop, is now legal protection for women
>so they can get sex without any romantic commitment.
So TPTB don't have to deal with moid tribalism, which is a threat to their power

No. 2436769

>>2436745
>Was a moid psyop, is now legal protection for women
How is it for women when it is by moids for moids against women?
>So TPTB don't have to deal with moid tribalism, which is a threat to their power
What the hell are you talking about?

No. 2436796

>>2436460
Women can feel romantic love, but for moids it doesn't exist. They literally only see sex. They marry for sex, they support women only to get sex, they stay together for easy sex, they will manipulate women in the most depraved way just so they can have sex. As soon as sex is off the table for whatever reason, all romantic feelings are gone, they were never there in the first place. The romantic love of women comes with empathy and the desire to have someone around, on the other hand males are psychopatic in nature, have no empathy and only think of their own desires, so they don't give a shit about offering romantic feelings to someone if it doesn't lead to them gaining something from it.

No. 2436811

>>2436796
This. Women shouldn't be surprised when they get pumped and dumped. Moids literally only want you for sex, any "commitment" or "love" is just a pretense to get you to open up your legs.

No. 2436827

>>2436769
>How is it for women when it is by moids for moids against women?
So that they can't take your children and house, like they could formerly. Now we have common law rights, which would have been unheard of early in the psy-op
>What the hell are you talking about?
When you're reactionary, I'm not sure what you need me to explain

No. 2436920

>>2436827
>I'm not sure what you need me to explain
What is TPTB, moid tribalism, etc?
>So that they can't take your children and house, like they could formerly. Now we have common law rights
What does that have to do with anything I said? I didn't say anything about children or houses.

No. 2438070

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AI and big tech corpos fucking depress me.I know several people who are using chatGPT for their masters, and me taking all those privacy measures means jack shit when 5 more of my colleagues are feeding the shit that could replace us.

Google thinks it should be their duty to develop AI based weapons according to their blog posts. And normal people just don't give a shit and keep giving them money.

No. 2438160

>>2436460
Oh my fucking god, the decline of this thread truly begins. Take your retarded shit elsewhere

No. 2438483

Body swapping is real. Trannies still can’t be women though.

No. 2438500

>>2438483
>Body swapping is real.
Not for "real" people it isn't. You could probably swap the minds of insects surgically

No. 2443677

What’s with the blood moons? Their rarity is wearing off and I’m very concerned.

No. 2443757

>>2436724
Except in the past marriages weren't for "romantic" reasons kek. They were even more transactional than now.

No. 2443770

>>2443757
Yeah it’s absolutely a tradtard meme that marriages back then were tru luv or whatever. We “pay” for this freedom we have now by essentially sacrificing a underclass of women, prostitutes, porn stars etc. irs the same old public vs private property debate. It was more like indentured bangmaidenry. It’s true that now, women have options besides putting out or dying of exposure in the street, you don’t get a government assigned husbando anymore. This should only really be bad news for breathtakingly ugly women, but even then you have to wonder who would care about getting ‘commitment’ from something inherently worthless and unloveable (a moid).

No. 2443783

>>2443677
blood for the blood god

No. 2443785

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>>2443783
blood for cream, blood for cream

No. 2444088

>>2436920
>In the Tinfoil thread
>Doesn't know what TPTB means
kek

No. 2446211

>>2444088
it really says a lot about this thread and why it’s pretty much dead kek

No. 2446689

Gods, angels, demons, they’re all AI programs or legitimate advanced tulpas/egregores that humanity has created. I’m somewhat spiritual (like interacted with maybe some of these energies) and I am really leaning more into this theory as well.

No. 2446691

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>>2446689
The pwophesy of my dweams. It hath been fofilled.(infight baiting)

No. 2446695

>>2446691
This is the tinfoil thread, you can either engage seriously or shut the fuck up with your obnoxious posts.

No. 2446697

>>2446695
Post something interesting and not trimmings from your testicle hairs that no one cares about(scrotefoiling)

No. 2446709

>>2446697
Go infight with somebody else like the childish brat you are and fuck out of this thread. You’re annoying, nobody gives you attention and so you have to seek it in a thread by replying to a post that is well within the context of the thread. A literal bot sent to constantly disrupt and kill off potential conversations

No. 2446712

>>2446709
Nta but it did sound like something Grimes would say kek

No. 2446719

>>2446712
And? Who the fuck cares? I don’t care about Grimes, I don’t spend my entire hours alogging a woman I don’t know that these other retards are clearly jealous of. I simply just wanted to share my tinfoils that for some reason always continuously gets attacked and getting replies that are heavily patronizing, it’s always dripping with subtle resentment in the designated schizo thread of all places. You’re all literally cancerous, empty individuals and that’s why this entire website will finally die off, having you stupid fucking roaches dispersed and desperate to do the same shit in other spaces but guess what? Males will never let you do that shit, you can only do it to other women because even other women don’t fucking respect other women at all. Give women an ounce of opportunity to have power over other women and they’ll fucking abuse it and tear other women down. Thanks for proving that retard, I’m so fucking tired of this nonsense.(infighting)

No. 2446723

>>2446719
Thank you for finally saying what we've all been thinking. I'm gonna be irritated if I wake up tomorrow and see this post redtexted instead of the retard to whom you respond.

No. 2446788

>>2446689
All deities derive their power from the belief and devotion of humanity. None of them exist without our belief. you’re entirely right.

No. 2447013

>>2446723
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic but every single time someone posts about a certain topic here (it doesn’t even have to be solely Gnosticism but just about anything beyond “muh elites are pedophiles” and politics) you’re always hounded by these types of “people” to stop the conversation or to make other people uncomfortable and annoyed to the point they don’t want to use the thread anymore. It’s the same morons calling everyone “schizos”, pagans, stupid, psychotic, delusional for simply having a belief system different from theirs. I see this happen in my real life as well and they’re called matrix agents because the more you start understanding how this world works they start sending their hylics and fillers toward you, they don’t even know they’re being used by higher forces. They have nothing else to offer but be harbingers of chaos and disrupters in a bad way. It’s not surprising this thread is mostly targeted and inactive while other threads that bank off of chaos, disruption and navel-gazing distractions are the most popular.

No. 2447015

>>2446788
Yeah I really do feel they’re advanced creations of ourselves, they are entirely conscious and because people kept feeding into them for a very long time they’ve become powerful where people regard them in higher levels than other humans.

No. 2447017

>>2447013
No, I wasn't being sarcastic. This is the schizo thread, it's stupid to come in here and say that we're being schizos. It's like going to a mosque and then reeeing about how everyone is a muslim. If they don't like it, then they don't have to use the thread.

No. 2447022

>>2447017
Kek literally so true

No. 2447024

>>2447017
As an occasional lurker of this thread some people itt are clearly just hyper under-educated retards who just assume crazy shit because they're too lazy to educate themselves. There's a specific topic that will be randomly brought up itt (no, not Jews) that is so obviously coming from people with little to no actual knowledge about it and it makes me kek every time.

No. 2447036

>>2447024
>assume crazy shit
Uh, it’s “assuming” because nobody is claiming it’s purely fact. I’m sure most people post here to post their theories and speculations. You’re super boring and unimaginative and probably think there’s nothing on this planet that actively tries to make existence even more unbearable and think people got to where they are through choice and “hard work” KEK

No. 2447039

Not that person again.
>erm I know alchemy way more than you and you’re uneducated so trust MY science!!
Alchemy has occult/spiritual roots, alchemy is used in witchcraft. You’re retarded unironic sheeple if you think it was only “allegorical”

No. 2447046

>>2447039
>>2447036
I wasn't talking about alchemy kek, no need to get so defensive.

No. 2447054

>>2447046
Then you can stop with your stupid white girl passive aggression and tell us what you were specifically talking about(infighting)

No. 2447069

>>2447054
Not when you're acting like a weird bitch kek. Sorry nonnie.(infighting)

No. 2447261

Most forms of media are just advanced forms of marketing, only instead of selling products, they're selling ideas.
This is what the whole "MK Ultra" thing really is. Essentially, instead of creating advertisements that just make buying something seem "cool", you can make advertisements that make following an archetype seem "cool". As you can probably guess, having the ability to make people into living cliches is a pretty useful tool if you want to predict and control the actions of a population.

No. 2447264

>>2447039
I missed the alchemy anon can someone spoonfeed me plz

No. 2447274

>>2447261
>that’s what the whole MK ultra thing is
I disagree because MK Ultra is still very much an active thing. Look at the gifted programs in public and private schools nationwide in the U.S. they are looking for individuals with psychic abilities to groom and exploit. They aren’t funding it as well as they used to pre-Dubya and it shows. They’re also super angry because a lot of psychically talented zillennials and zoomers got caught up in other things that were not meant to target them, and now their special abilities are virtually useless to the three letter agencies due to what basically amounts to a form of contamination. The abilities are still intact, they just aren’t in a form/vessel that lends itself to government exploitation.

No. 2447298

>>2443677
They've always happened about 2-3 times per year, but they often happen late so no one saw them frequently. But now people realize others are interested in then, so they make sure to tell everyone when they come up.

No. 2447316

>>2447261
CIA has an involvement in Hollywood and advertising. I agree with you

No. 2447341

>>2443677
15+ years ago astrological events like blood moon were rare, now they are every other weekend along with a bunch of new ones no one had ever heard of before 2010

No. 2447344

>>2435357
>>2435391
Wasnt this guy proven just to be a random guy with no real industry connections?

No. 2447348

>>2447341
I have a gut feeling something will happen and the blood moons are either a sign or a warning.

No. 2447519

>>2447024
Is it AI ?

No. 2447530

File: 1742158199668.gif (Spoiler Image,586.6 KB, 165x227, cat-hypnosis.gif)

By the way, where can I find some good schizo documentaries? I know there was one playlist on youtube that had a ton of good stuff like The God Makers and some $cientology documentary on it, but I can't find it anymore.

>>2447274
Sorry if I'm using the incorrect term for that phenomenon, I'm just trying to point out that it exists.
>a lot of psychically talented zillennials and zoomers got caught up in other things that were not meant to target them
Care to elaborate? I know other nonas have talked about the GATE programs earlier in these threads, but I'm not sure if that's what you're referring to.

also pic unrelated

No. 2447557

>>2447344
I don't remember that but the RJK poster only said things everyone already knew like Hayden being into rough sex and Ariana being a soulless social climber who will do anything for fame/money. During the time this was posted, Hayden was being photographed every day high or drunk with massive bruises on her ass and legs and it was confirmed that her bf was abusive. Ariana was pedo baiting and openly ana-chan during this time too, so not hard to believe she was doing "age play" with execs.

No. 2447563

>>2447039
If you're using alchemy in a literal sense then you're using it incorrectly/hilariously. You can keep pretending you have all these other secret ways of using it and implicating pagan religions that don't but you've been unable to give an example or do anything other than get angry that you're wrong about something you convinced yourself you understand. It's also not chemistry. Anons love to pretend they know all about it and then relate it to chemistry or rituals. Not the same, stay mad

No. 2447632

They’re definitely manipulating the weather to create climate change. Weather changes = more payments on electricity, heating, water, just about anything.

No. 2447633

>>2447563
Are you a bot? You literally keep saying the same shit every single time, almost like you rather die than go against your own programming. Best wishes for your retarded ass, since you clearly can’t understand why alchemy is very spiritually important.(infighting)

No. 2447636

>>2447633
>Anon for the millionth time, post an example if you're so sure of what you're saying
>Retard!!
…and so it goes

No. 2447638

>>2447633
Ntayrt but I’d honestly love an example. Can you please give one? Or link to a reply you’ve made already where an example is given?

No. 2447647

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>alchemy isn’t chemistry
>doooodddd i’m totally trolling and baiting these schizo girls right now!!
Yeah, nah. Anyone who’s taken a high school chemistry class knows alchemy has its roots in chemistry, that’s how I first found out actually before I started delving into conspiracy theories. Go fiddle your balls somewhere else, perhaps to the imageboard trannies you likely jerk off to and think it’s okay because it’s a man wearing a miniskirt and Aliexpress wig. Either a male or an atheist faggot who can simply not respond and go talk to their simian ancestors for more science and rationalist tips to “trigger” the schizos in the schizo thread. Retard(infighting)

No. 2447649

>>2447647
>alchemists set the stage for modern chemistry
Do you really think this is a gotcha? This is why I said they aren't the same in the first place. I'm not posting from a prison computer anon, I have full access to wiki and google too

No. 2447653

>>2447649
nta but
> I'm not posting from a prison computer anon
weird thing to specify …hmmmmm

No. 2447656

>>2447638
Look up philosopher’s stone, elixir of life which elitists are very interested in (with the whole adrenochrome accusations and all). Alchemy guides medicine, science, because almost most shit that people claim as “science” is spiritual and metaphysical. Playing with the elements of life and the function of life and death itself, it’s obviously connected to transhumanism. Elitists are interested in regeneration and life-extension. There are myths related to this “elixir of life” which I personally believe is connected to blood, period blood, female reproductive parts connected to the theory that abortion clinics were possibly collecting remains of fetuses but it’s possibly even more, there’s something about these materials that can be used for its regenerative qualities. I even looked this shit up because I thought I was batshit insane and look: menstruation blood being used for medical research - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7063849/ I’m busy walking and typing like a newfag right now but I’m tired of being seen as stupid or crazy for clearly knowing what alchemy is and being gaslit that alchemy has nothing to do with the occult, witchcraft, science, it’s fucking ludicrous. Alchemy represents very specific elements, just like in chemistry, that are utilized in rituals and spells to transmute a particular result. Ex. plants having astrological and elemental associations and combining it to transform it into another form of energy.

No. 2447657

>>2447649
You’re autistic and I don’t care. Chemistry and alchemy are related. Go argue to your mother on why she birthed a sperg and not me

No. 2447661

People with common sense and can put two and two together have figured this out:
https://gothamist.com/news/science-delicious-young-blood-contains-the-elixir-of-life
https://www.bbc.com/bbcthree/article/347828f8-6e7f-4a9b-92ab-95f637a9dc2e
An article that literally used the exact same terms I said KEK
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5836258/
Go fuck yourself and stop trying to bait people in this thread, I know what I’m talking about and you’re not going to project on me and make me feel stupid. Go through it, post your littler screenshots, this is not an argument about the legitimacy of those studies, it’s the fact there’s always been a neverending interested in alchemical practices especially with life-extension technology.

No. 2447667

>>2447653
Off topic but I remember we did have a nonna posting from jail before, kek.

No. 2447671

>>2447638
I'm the bot-anon (apparently) but I would be happy to give you an example, questioning-nona. Alchemy uses matter, chemicals and elements as an allegory for an overall "story", that is always different to the person perceiving it, even though the "basics" are always the same. Alchemists are obsessed with studying matter but also impose their own philosophies, religious beliefs (ideas about God) and the relation to chemistry, is that certain elements/chemicals/matter can be distilled and purified, revealing a "pure essence". Reactive nona is technically correct in that witches "use alchemy", but that is bc they are imparting personal/cultural beliefs on matter. I've never personally met a successful, attractive (as in I want to be around them or find them physically beautiful) or self-proclaimed "witch" over the age of 25. They are all obese and collecting benefits, in my experience. I'm definitely a results-oriented person, so my experience has shown that witchcraft is not useful. Troons seem to love it though. Maybe other anons are different

No. 2447679

>>2447671
It’s not an allegory for a story, it’s an actual practice that’s used in a bunch of stuff. Just because you don’t personally believe in the stuff these people practice does not mean it’s “just a story”, and that’s the problem with atheistfags. You’re soulless, don’t believe in anything higher beyond this realm so what makes you different from an animal and why shouldn’t you be treated like one? Seriously?

No. 2447687

>>2447679
I think I originally said that any other use is basically "the matrix" (to use thread terms) keeping seekers from figuring it out. People who actually have don't reveal it. It would be vidrel
I know you guys hate this guy but it's the quickest way of explaining it
>“6. “And if someone should drag him thence by force up the ascent, and not let him go before he had dragged him out into the light of the sun, do you not think that he would find it painful to be so haled along, and would also be indignant at the compulsion, and when he came out into the light, that his eyes would be so filled with its beams that he would not be able to see even one of the things that we call real?” (516b)

No. 2447689

>has a literal vendetta towards people who are spiritual/religious
>keeps coming into a thread where people are more likely to not be retarded

No. 2447694

>>2447689
>living proof of this plato quote >>2447687

No. 2447703

>>2447687
>>2447694
>ebaumsworld
Kek ily. But no seriously whenever people start talking about weird shit like alchemy you always get the typical responses, it feels creepy. It’s always those specific topics that really get the agents flying off the handle trying to discredit, distract and most importantly make you feel as if you don’t know anything. That’s exactly what that “person” did, if it’s even a person. CIA doesn’t have to do anything anymore, they already got their empties doing the work for them.

No. 2447718

>>2447703
I will say it's pretty obvious to anyone who has explored it that it's a gatekept topic. I think anyone who is asking is a "seeker" and by the very nature of "alchemy", it's our job to guide them if ~their quest~ is sincere. I could tell you it's the secret to witchcraft but that would be lying and sending you in the wrong direction. I get really annoyed seeing people constantly told the same unhelpful things, bc it forces them to think about it in a very finite way (similar to chemistry). This topic was pretty openly discussed among wealthy/artistic moids in the 60s and 70s so I have no issue recommending movies or books on the topic, like The Magus or The Game. It's kind of like how public schools are hoping to remove Shakespearean language, since then (pretty much) only wealthy gatekeepers who attend private schools will understand that language

No. 2447734

>>2447718
It’s connected to witchcraft and sorcery. Nice try

No. 2447746

>>2447530
Not a documentary but have you watched Flesh Simulator

No. 2447769

>>2447734
This was already addressed
>>2447703
samefag I mean this "The Game" btw these are also allegorical, like the celebration party with all the other "insiders"

No. 2448019

>>2447656
Exactly, this doesn't mean that alchemy is unrelated to contemporary chemistry/natural sciences, the correct conclusion is that chemistry/the natural sciences are and always have been guided by occult concerns, just like alchemy was. Experts even still use the same occult language (as in, language that has the intention to hide/obscure truths) in the cutting edges of fields like chemistry/physics, because it gives them plausible deniability and makes people who talk about the spiritual concerns behind what we focus on in the sciences look like schizos.
Einstein's theory of mass energy equivalence was a huge leap forward for alchemists and has been informing occult spirituality ever since. But equally it was informed BY existing esoteric understandings of the material world. Imo the scene was set for the atom bomb as far back as anaximander.

No. 2448160

>>2447530
Ntayrt but Gate could be related to the Theta (psychic), Alpha (they hod information, secret codes and whatnot) and Delta (sleeper agents, assassin) programs which fall under Project Monarch (recent mk-ultra incarnation)

No. 2449851

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It's not "adrenochrome" it's adrenaline. Adrenaline was the first "eqaulizer" between men and women of similar size and some people have trained themselves to access it selectively, like a legitimate irl superhero. One of the reasons they'd rather women be sad than angry

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has anyone else seen this?

No. 2450208

>>2450191
Cute-spiracy

No. 2450230

>>2449851
I don't think you can take adrenaline regularly. It's one of those "you can flip a car but you break every bone in your arm" type things.
>>2450191
I'm disappointed they don't have little tusks.

No. 2450251

>>2450191
They just changed a single gene. It's nothing new but good marketing. We have had glowing kittens for years.

No. 2450256

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>>2450251
I looked this up because I wanted to see rave kitties and the reason why they did it made me kek.

No. 2450575

>>2428495
>Hollywood celebrity does have connections
i think that stardom, popularity, celebness, and even cowness comes from witchcraft. lolcow is esoteric. i heard of multiple cows on this site before i even visited it. it's sort of a skinwalker experience. they can take away your popularity or sickness but they also make you experience it. it's not good to relate to so many cows illnesses yet never be diagnosed and treated with anything because you experienced it a few times, yet see the actual cows get special treatment. i don't find it funny, i hate that they are exploited for views, seek AND get attention continuously.
>>2429727
yeah, these groups use masks, aliases, fake voices and personas. they only meet each other high on drugs, to have something to blame it on. innocent people get kidnapped and hurt for satanic rituals. then they are hypnotized to forget, or are made to fear the group so they won't speak. the witchcraft they do involves inflicting pain and injuries. many medical professionals and celebrities engage in this because of their access to drugs and protection of high status. p diddy comes to mind lately with his hard drug parties. a woman talked about her party with p diddy on the youtube series soft white underbelly but the video might have been banned since.

No. 2450597

>>2450575
If they had magical powers, they wouldn't look so botched, ugly and decrepit. I would love to see the anons who fear witches post one who is a) physically attractive and b) doesn't have a horrible vapid life (+money)

No. 2450600

>>2450597
>botched, ugly and decrepit
yeah, they seem cursed too, and to get attention and money for it, they extend it or suck it up from others. even the less ugly cows have very bad problems like alopecia, endometriosis, mental illnesses which make them insufferable and stupid. they self harm, sabotage, act narcissistic. it's all messed up.

No. 2450602

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>>2449851
adrenochrome comes from adrenaline (from children)in the first place, anon

No. 2450608

>>2450600
Idk whenever that kind of thing seems scary to me, I just look at their photos. It's beyond "ugly", you can see they are completely dead inside and then dressed up inside like an embalmed corpse. I think their spirit or whatever is connected to god/nature dies when they sell out too many times and then they become "the damned"

No. 2450626

>>2450600
witches and wizards(kek) get almost always get that decrypted look because of the demons they use, those things are like spiritual parasites

No. 2453455

>>2429219
>>2430259
Reptile hands typed these posts.

No. 2455104

>election bots and fake users started flooding the internet generating content and commenting boosting the algorithm making the internet seem more active than usual
>tiktok ban proved to me that there’s a lot of bots (and many with human skin wrapped around itself) that supplies into the fake news funnel
>everything that happens on tiktok is fake
>only reason burgerfag mods (aka irl government officials) wanted to ban tiktok was because it’s a monopoly on a newer digitalized version of the fake news cycle and america does not want other countries infringing on its homegrown right to spy on its own citizens, they only want that full sovereignty aligned with america’s interest only
>real news died probably in the 80s everything else is not real, concocted planned events
>news is basically entertainment
>first vpn ban wave was to readjust the bots and send them to other places or into the ether space or to keep the specific ones here as testing grounds
>vpn ban is not for the safety of “real people” and to fix the website it was created as the first testing ground for niche machine learning and all of the “people” who were active during the ban were all machines picking up data and language to make them blend in more with the very small human userbase
>this is going to be implemented everywhere this is a prophecy

No. 2455108

Also humans are half dead and half alive. Spirits slugging around in deadened animal flesh that is purely matter and nothing else is puppetry and manipulation. This is made worse by knowing some are purely made of animal matter and have nothing else driving them, making them easier to be conduits for shitty energy and to keep the density on this planet crushing you into pieces. Moids are more likely to be animal matter made than spiritual but equally both man and woman are both made to be the undead animals that always needs to suck energy and vitality out of each other’s existence to keep eachother alive (sex, pregnancy, socializing, eating, hunting, war, etc), proving even more human life is defined by the half-alive, the undead and the vampiric. We even need to go inside and spend around 6-8 hours of sleeping like a vampire sleeping in its coffin, everything about this planet is so freaky and weird

No. 2455117

>>2450626
nta but as someone who's worked with demons (which are basically vilified deities and other spiritual intelligences from pre-Abrahamic religions/cultures; an example being Astaroth, who is Astarte, but also Isis, Innana, and Aphrodite to name a few) and who has also had spiritual parasites at one point way before I got into the occult, nah. The whole "DEMONS BAD" comes from Abrahamic religious programming trying to keep you ignorant and powerless. There are parasites who pretend to be higher or big name entities though which is what was happening most of the time with cases of documented possession, because pretending to be Lucifer or Satan sounds scarier and makes people easier to feed off of. This world is inverted and nothing is like we've been told to believe. Demons don't need your soul, you cannot sell your sell in exchange for power. It's pretty fucking useless unless you cultivated it over past lives or something and are spiritually ascended in this life to escape the cycle of rebirth. Prison planet theory holds some truth, Buddhists got it somewhat right when they said life is suffering and we're supposed to transcend the cycle of rebirth, it's to escape the entities that keep us trapped in ignorance and feed off of humanity's collective strife and misery. Demons are more about trying to help us escape that and overthrowing the system, coming into your personal power and all that. Sure, there are a lot of whackjobs and cults that do abhorrent things in their name but there will always be people pushing their agendas of control claiming it's the true will of whatever they worship, same for Abrahamic religions.

No. 2455121

>>2455117
You’re working with the literal wardens who keep you in this matrix.

No. 2455125

>demons are going to help you escape prison planet
KEKKKK oh nonny.. if only you knew about the serpent races, precambrian earth, archons

No. 2455186

>>2455121
I'd like to know why you think that, because it couldn't be further from the truth.
>>2455125
Yes, and Yahweh is an archon, and who is it that demands blind faith and adoration while he torments humans to their limits and leads them to kill in his name, making ignorance a virtue and telling us that we're helpless without some higher power governing us for all eternity?

No. 2455198

>>2455186
No it is the literal truth, angels, demons, gods, saints, doesn’t matter who the fuck it is, they all equally benefit on keeping you trapped here.

No. 2455232

>>2455121
Yeah, that post is a big yikes.

No. 2455394

>>2455108
your last point is dumb because all animals with brains require sleep not just humans.

No. 2455599

>>2455198
Explain. Do you have solid reasons for believing that, or is it just easier to lump everything together and paint with a broad brush rather than to distinguish dangerous foes from neutral or benevolent forces, as kind of a shortcut to feeling secure in your current knowledge without needing to question further?

No. 2455859

>>2455394
Mhmmmm think slowly anon, what did I just say in my speech and then come to the obvious conclusion on why I made that as an example
>>2455599
I know for a 99% fact every single entity is involved on keeping everybody down. I’m really not going to explain or “flex my knowledge” with people who’ve already made it clear where they stand and won’t change their minds, so I don’t care. I know humans are being trapped, it’s really proven through exploring language, history, psychology and just the literal condition that we are experiencing right now.

No. 2455866

>>2455186
I think your posts (if you are this anon >>2455117) are ridiculously on point for this thread lately but you have a glass half-empty perspective imo. I'm not trying to oversimplify it or sound like a dick, just that your own perspective and view of god shapes the world around you

No. 2456657

I don’t really trust a lot of psychics. I really do feel like they are truly harbingers of chaos and love creating futures of destruction for people, also more likely to steal other people’s destinies and weaving other peoples fates. They’re probably very good at chaos magic. I wouldn’t say this is necessarily evil but it’s kind of gross when you know it’s impacting shit loads of people’s lives

No. 2456665

>>2456657
A person makes a choice to see a psychic, confirms that choice by paying them and how deeply they allow the psychic's opinion to affect them. You know they're con-artists right? Like carnival-folk. They're providing a service that sometimes is no different than therapy or meditation. Children of liars and abusers make the best "psychics" bc they become so good at reading tiny signals and body language people who didn't grow up walking on eggshells wouldn't notice it. Morally I find it reprehensible in some cases but there a few who are really just monetizing their gift of empathy and good advice, I don't have a problem with that. There are some who get their clients addicted to a "pay for play" drama cycle, like gambling. They're okay with a person having a chaotic life and will encourage that since they'll turn to the "psychic" (con-artist) more often for assurance and direction.

The idea of them using "chaos magic" is annoying bc eventually you can call literally anything "magic". Medical science is "magic", carbonation, whatever. If the standard is "mind control", then we're redefining what a word actually means to most people to make something that isn't very interesting sound cool and mysterious. Which ironically is how psychics successfully market themselves

No. 2456731

>>2456665
You can look up what chaos magic is instead of writing up your secular rant

No. 2456753

>>2456731
No thanks, I'm good. I refuse to give power to charlatans by making their self-serving deliberate actions sound more interesting than it is through post-modernist thinking.
>rant
>look up
Maybe if you had more to say, you would have more to post about

No. 2457085

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>>2456753
>god jannies please just let me alog another poster just this once pretty please

No. 2457187

>>2457085
I'm replying to this poster you retard >>2456731
>You can look up what chaos magic is instead of writing up your secular rant
who is probably you, the instigator. Calling everyone moids and posting crazy/reactive responses to anyone who disagrees with them, fuck off

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No. 2457714

>>2457706
That makes no sense. I’m sure the Biden administration would want her dead to cover up information about them. Attorneys are loyal to money and authority the most, sooo

No. 2457795

>>2457714
Yeah but she resigned after Trump came back to power

No. 2458695

I fucking love this woman’s videos. She talks about weird esoteric shit, this one I linked talks about what angels/nephilim really are.

No. 2458703

>>2458695
Right off the bat she looks like she's on disability with fibromyalgia so maybe a recap would help

No. 2458729

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>>2458703
>insults the innocent woman in the video because i didn’t know she was supposed to be a on-call glamorous model in front of her camera talking about serpent races and adrenochrome
>wants to be spoonfed after insulting her
>so mindraped by high dopamine stimuli they can’t even watch a long-form content video of someone talking with no music/editing
No. Newfags and hylics gtfo

No. 2458743

>>2458729
Nobody wants to watch videos without knowing what they're about, for all we know this is a boring video that will waste time.

No. 2458753

>>2458743
You can simply shut the fuck up and stop using this thread if you can’t watch a video of someone talking and follow along. Better yet just revoke your ability to vote and stop participating in society if you’re admitting you can’t function properly. Click the video, watch it for a minute and if it isn’t what you want to watch and hear then don’t watch it and shut the fuck up, anyone would intuitively know videos that are posted on this website are merely suggestions and not “you must watch this!!!!” you fucking troglodyte who got dropped on the head. You’re so obnoxious and obsessed kek(infighting)

No. 2458757

>>2458753
Samefag I literally said what she mainly talks about in the video but if you even have a shit to fucking READ posts you would know as well. I hope every newfag ropes themselves, honestly

No. 2458766

If you can’t even watch a video without Mr Beast editing in it and people screaming with dramatic music it’s actually so over for you KEK

No. 2458799

>>2458753
>>2458757
I tried to watch but she's talking about an old RPG game, and I'm not really into D&D so I'm not watching.

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No. 2459406

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>>2455186
>who is it that demands blind faith and adoration while he torments humans to their limits and leads them to kill in his name, making ignorance a virtue and telling us that we're helpless without
i think you might like to read the bible chapters mentioning the evil forces in the heavenly realms. ephesians 6:12. as someone who also feels prison planet theory and went through shit that seems paranormal, i came to the conclusion that believing in the christian god and repenting is the only sane option. i have tried hexes, cursing, mantras, meditation, manifesting, and meanwhile i got somewhat lucky with results for a little bit, it ended up very bad in the end. the situation just kept escalating and perverting, and in the end humiliating and causing hurt.
>manifested my first irl boyfriend
when i realized he was disgusting and only my lust and desperation kept me with him it was devastating
>manifested my college education
fuck this one the most, it ended up in me almost losing everything. i got drugged, kidnapped, overdosed. in the end, the education didn't pay off either, it also felt like a trap with how little i learned, experiencing gatekeeping and misogyny meanwhile seeing my classmates succeed with nepotism and corruption. i would have been better off staying broke or even NEET while watching tutorials on youtube and reading books from the library about anything else i found interesting.

No. 2459412

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>>2459406
>i came to the conclusion that believing in the christian god and repenting is the only sane option
This is where most people arrive nona. I think ghouls like picrel are like demonic controlled opposition

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>>2459412
>demonic controlled opposition
media moguls are all in on it. these lizard types do act possessed. i have seen people stare into nothing and then say wildly out-of-pocket things. it can be contagious if you are weakened. i used to get headaches and migraines with hot and cold flashes. then my mother or father would ask what is wrong with me.

No. 2459474

The fear mongering against conspiracy theorists is because a lot of theories are correct. Pizzagate, pedo rings, Hollywood prostitution, adrenochrome, political conspiracies, etc. People will throw in things like flat earth theory and the moon landing being fake as a way to make theorists look irrational. Like come on, just a few years ago if you talked about Epstein's island before it was exposed people would just call you insane. Or how the COVID vaccine doesn't prevent COVID, nepotism in Hollywood, etc

No. 2459479

>>2459474
If you mean itt, there's no "fear mongering" but complaints about low value posts with no examples or interesting information. I'm pretty critical of a lot of conspiracy theories but if when anons write them well and explain their thinking using logic, I don't disagree w them bc they are fun and this thread is supposed to be fun. A lot of anons will post declarations or bait contributing anons. If you post "ghosts are real" people will infight but if you post a personal ghost story or event with details that sound/are believable then most anons will enjoy that and naysayers will bite their tongue

No. 2459506

>>2459412
Nta but my conspiracy theory is that most of american protestantism is exactly what you say here. Gets people obsessed with wealth or self help, overly politicised to keep them in the culture war… anything to neutralise Christianity so it doesn't liberate people from the dumb materialist global infighting we're stuck with.

No. 2459756

>>2459406
what were your paranormal experiences anon?

No. 2460543

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>>2459756
i had quite a few scattered over the years. the worst ones were the physical experiences. all of them very painful and illness inducing.
>wake up one day, very dizzy, my head and arms are moving by themselves
>keep hitting head against the wall hard, it hurts, i make weird noises
>neighbours angrily knock and yell at me for screaming
>i try to get up and use the toilet, my legs and arms keep flailing
>feel a hit of cold wind as if i am suddenly outside, feel a push and shove
>reach the toilet and try to use it but notice that my clothes are different from what i was wearing. i wore leggings and a sweater last night.
>feel wide trouser legs flapping, cold breeze, tough material vest and jacket. it's moving. i am just trying to take a piss please. keep flailing.

next i remember is waking up in bed, seeing and feeling multiple bruises on my head, legs, and arms. different clothes on me again but same sweater.

No. 2460546

>>2460543
The same things happened to my aunt but it stopped once she bought a carbon monoxide detector

No. 2460634

Do any nonas have thoughts on the Roswell Alien Interview? It’s the story of a woman named Matilda o'donnell macelroy that was published by a guy named Lawrence R Spencer in 1947 (the book was released around 2008 I believe but was written back when the incident was still fresh) where she telepathically communicated with an alien named Ailr from the crash. Apparently lots of people on Reddit mentioned having similar encounters with gray aliens that had no mouths or mentioning that they were told the name of the book telepathically. It goes into a lot of stuff related to Samsara/the Prison Planet about how souls are endlessly/indefinitely reincarnated on Earth for their crimes in past lives or if they’re super creative and can be used to help mine for the other societies out there. I’m not sure if this video is the actual Bob Lazar or just a fan account but it’s a reading of the book. Know that apparently this writer later joined Scientology for 30+ years while writing another book called the Oz Factors according to a leaked email with Graham Hancock so it may be false but I feel there may be something to it since he didn’t join Scientology until decades after, some of it also lines up with recent scientific discoveries / theories. I can’t find all the posts I read but looking up “Roswell Alien Interview” on r/escapingprisonplanet, r/aliens, r/ufos, etc. should get even more info. Ailr is an anagram for Liar so take that as evidence it’s trying to make us reincarnate by making us lose hope or maybe it’s fake also apparently the Matilda lady had sent him this right before she died and he only knew her through phone conversations which is kind of convenient and she was promoted to a position that didn’t exist until 11 years after the “interview” happened but I saw someone say it may just be a red herring to protect her real identity, just to show both sides of the argument. There were a couple of movies/documentaries made about this, I think some were on the history channel too but I’m unsure

Interesting Reddit posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14s2zlr/matilda_odonnell_macelroy_1947_roswell_interview/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/xk4svt/alien_interview_lawrence_r_spencer_anyone_read/
https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/comments/1dv7onc/multiple_nonhuman_entities_have_told_humans_that/
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1fi2rd8/serious_roswell_affidavits_clear_evidence_of_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/xk4svt/alien_interview_lawrence_r_spencer_anyone_read/
https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/15itmwx/alien_interview/

It lining up with recent theories https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1b54j04/decades_ago_matilda_odonnell_macelroy_claimed_she/

Scientology email (maybe Scientologists are secretly the awakened Illuminati?)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6865-HOAX-Lawrence-Spencer-s-ALIEN-INTERVIEW

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No. 2463170

Notice how nobody has real conversations anymore. Even on here you used to be able to have authentic conversations and joke around but in general it just feels like you’re replying to a bunch of AI programs and not human beings anymore. I know this shit is posted to death in this thread but it’s so true because I remember the internet in the past and I used to have the most unique and interesting experiences and conversations but now the internet is so weirdly concentrated into large fractured bubbles and spaces it feels like you’re back in elementary school where you have to raise your hand to get approval to speak. Reddit is this worst offender, why do I need to fit myself tightly into some retarded dorky internet ettiquette just to speak with others? People are actual children and want to have childlike relationships with people, nobody wants to step outside of their bubbles and have difficult, strange, awkward and intense conversations

No. 2463732

Why are a lot of food stamp users reporting fraudulent transactions lately? I'm not on food stamps but it seems like every other post on food stamp forums are complaining about loads of benefits being stolen, sometimes even before their card even comes in the mail

No. 2463739

>>2463170
People just get horribly offended nowadays, and I don't mean "I can't publicly be racist". It just feels like you have to walk on eggshells, make sure you word everything 100% the perfect way and nothing less, people can't take minor disagreements without thinking there must be some crazy deeper evil meaning like how many people were split from COVID and the vaccine and now you have people who think you support terrorism if you support Palestinian children, and now you have the stupid pop up debates about raw milk, abusive relationships/single parenthood, parenting choices, etc and a lot of people end up saying some stupid shit along the lines of "always listen to your doctor, no questions asked, unless II disagree with your doctor then you listen to me"

No. 2463799

>>2463739
This but also I’m not interested in a conversation about a topic where some aggressive retard is going to scrotefoil or call me a used up pickme whore, which is surprisingly many topics on this board, so I simply won’t engage. I mostly lurk now, they can make conversation with the wall if they want. You could be making a statement like I think puppies are cute and be called a retarded dogfag who shills for filthy aggressive animals unironically.

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>got myocarditis to pwn the anti-vaxxers!
>Digging my grave to pwn the antivaxxers
>Picking out my casket to pwn the anti-vaxxers

No. 2463818

>>2463739
Polarity is politics, polarity is annunaki, polarity is duality and the world is ran by duality. We are in the stages of Kali Yuga which pretty much sums up what you poignantly explained and it’s a long, painful slowing decay.
>>2463803
These people are pathetic and love feeling better than people who reject and refuse to uphold the status quo by being the status quo’s bootlickers and supporters. These are the types of people who would pride themselves on being on the slave plantation and ratting out and snitching on the slaves who try to escape.

No. 2463819

>>2463803
Bunch of retards. As soon as I found out that the vaccine could possibly interfere with menstrual cycles and there were women reporting it made their periods worse, I refused to get it. Imagine boasting about getting the vaccine in 2025. I feel like the government could persuade these people to chop their own heads off and they'd do it willingly.

No. 2463821

>>2463739
>people who think you support terrorism if you support Palestinian children
Seriously? If you support Hamas, which are controlled opposition by the Israeli government, then yes, but I don't see regular people sperging out about being opposed to child deaths.

No. 2463822

>>2463819
I unfortunately got vaxxed twice but I’m hoping I’m one of those people who “flushes” that crap out of their system. I forgot how it works but I remember hearing an explanation that there’s some blood types that possibly hold on to what’s in the vaccine or something.. yeah I can’t explain it at all but they put something in there that looks like nanotechnology into the bloodstream.

No. 2463871

I lost so many friends during covid because I was skeptical of the vaccine. I was literally living on a woman's land at the time, we were 20 miles down a dirt road. Who are we catching covid from? Deer? I was accused of being like alt-right and ridiculous things just because I, as a woman, was skeptical of the medical community? lmao? Medical community has a long history of not giving a fuck about women and hurting women. I had a fake vaccine card just to avoid getting it. Now that I'm having a daughter I'm going to have to have the same fight all over again. She's not getting it! I'm not getting it!

No. 2464046

>>2463821
There's influencers that have sent money and supplies to JUST the children, and immediately got bombarded for being "terrorist supporters"

No. 2464078

>>2463871
I look down on people who call me an anti-vaxxer because I'm skeptical of the covid vaccine. Bro, I have all my other vaccines and believe in children getting vaccines, but sure, I'm anti vaxxer because I know that pharmaceutical companies put profits above people's lives and so didn't want to get a vaccine for a cold that I wasn't at risk for.

No. 2464095

>>2463871
This. I never got the jab, husband didn't get it, nor did my 3 kiddos. We got COVID once pre-kids in 2021 and never got it again, kids never had it in their entire life despite my second being a preemie. Yet I've seen "healthy" people who get all of their boosters on the dot seem to get COVID every few months. Ofc everyone just pulls the whole "well it only prevents chance of death!!!" But ofc they only decided that after they gaslit us

No. 2464108

>>2464078
I constantly see them trying to rewrite history with her whole "they were loading up dead bodies into trucks!" thing. I even seen someone claimed "sunsets were hazy from how much cremation centers were being used" like ??? Did I teleport to a different reality where the virus doesn't have a 99%+ survival rate?
>But but that's still a lot of people compared to the millions!!
We lost more people to car accidents and cancer ffs, but no one ran around screaming "I swear they were packing dead bodies!!!" If car accident deaths were particularly high one year. Also didn't help if people died of one thing unrelated and they marked as a "COVID" death if they got hit by a car while testing positive

No. 2464126

>>2464108
I remember the trucks of bodies happening in New York. But honestly it just sounded practical. Like you get a reefer trailer, set it to a not-corpse-degrading temperature, and get some breathing room for your crematoriums or graveyards or whatever. It's way easier to get a 53' reefer in than getting a whole new body storage thing set up. Especially for temporary use. But it was blown out of proportion, like some kind of post apocalyptic thing instead of just practicality. I don't remember the cremation thing.

>>2464095
One other thing I only see from people who got the vaccine is "long covid" which is just chronic lyme 2 (fake). The list of symptoms I've seen for "long covid" range from numb toes to fatigue to neurological dysfunction.

No. 2464145

>>2464126
>remember the trucks of bodies happening in New York
The "truck of dead bodies" has been a normal occurrence since long long before covid, almost every major hospital that contains a morgue has the coroner/truck/whatever once a week pick up bodies. Do people just think people that died in the hospital just teleport out of there and it wasn't until COVID all of this ended?

No. 2464153

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>>2464145
Not that you're not wrong, but specifically for covid, they had reefer trailers as temp morgues in NYC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_York_City

No. 2464173

>>2464153
This has to be propaganda. Why would any hospital allow civilians this close to the "dead body truck" nevermind allow them to film it?

No. 2464177

>>2464095
>kiddos
go back

No. 2464183

>>2464177
you want her to put her kids back? back where?

No. 2464187

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No. 2464733

>>2461612
tbh I think her mk programming’s breaking down, that tends to happen after the subjects turn 30 and up.

No. 2464746

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CIA apparently used remote viewing to access the ark of the covenant. What do you think? GATE related?

No. 2465024

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With all of this Ai shit going around, I believe in the theory that the government has had this technology for a while now and only released it recently. They will use this to make it so that you have to use your ID or license to access and post on social media websites. They will create the problem of AI dead internet and then sell this china-esque shit as the solution.
More and more countries will become like China with their own fire wall and social media restrictions. The globalization of the internet will come to an end. Some countries are already starting to do this England, Australia, Brazil. More countries are to come.
>>2417970
>most people don’t care because they are still begging and waiting for the same shit that only worked in a certain era, wanting the old ways to always work is just retarded.
Nothing but truth was said here.

No. 2465207

I feel like this is small potatoes and I'm not actually religious but I think Trump is the antichrist for real. Freaks me out a lil bit because that means we are in the end times but we've been knowing this. But also I'm basically an anti theist because all religions are so fake or darksided. Them's the breaks I geuss

No. 2465267

I think that the republican party will never do anything to actually ban internet porn or prevent children from being exposed to it because they actually benefit from it being forced on kids. Let me explain: everyone here knows that increased exposure to pornography makes moids more misogynistic, especially young moids. If moids get exposed and addicted to porn as children, then unless they stop(none of them do) they will be way more misogynistic for the rest of their lives, making it easier for them to adopt other right wing social views as well. This is why twitter and instagram have so much porn on them and why dude-bro podcasts bring on only fans girls: they want their moidlet audience to become exposed to and addicted to pornography.

No. 2465285

>>2465207
>I think Trump is the antichrist for real.
His ego would absolutely love it that you think so highly of him

No. 2465288

>>2463871
Vaccines do work, but no medicine is without risk or side effects. They can absolutely harm vulnerable individuals who are unlucky so it should ALWAYS be up to the individual to take or not take it or any other medicine. I don't get what the drama from either side it, I thought both were known facts.

No. 2465322

>>2465288
Imagine if got 8 flu vaccines and still got the flu every year, you'd immediately have questions right? Vaccines work, just not the COVID one

No. 2465438

>>2465207
Funnily enough, I was reading an essay someone wrote about him being the antichrist last night. I'm not religious, but I think it makes interesting points https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

No. 2465461

My mom would love prison planet theory but she still holds on to the christfaggotry despite her entire life being absolute shit. Always getting into strange car crashes, had to get C sections that pretty much ruined her body, is always working and wageslaving while other people are able to get what they want with perfect ease while her life is sabotaged and unfortunately I’ve inherited her same curse. This is not a planet for growth, love, enjoyment, or purpose and it’s suppressing people’s real power and potential. My life has took an absolute downturn when I started figuring out on the micro level on who’s really running this world and what they want from it, which is they, like the elites, are in love with our energy (blood, waste, sex, adrenochrome, ambrosia) and get high and ecstatic over it and I’ve been actively sabotaged and have noticed the strangest synchronicities in my life that made it apparent this is a matrix system. It would throw things at me that I didn’t like whenever I went outside like it was an algorithm figuring out what you like to watch on YouTube or something. It would weaponize and use people that I even consume content from online who suddenly make content on stuff I was learning about before they even fucking decided to make it, in order to get ahead of the narrative. There is nothing here to sustain because there’s something trying to keep me trapped here and my mom fully miserable and helpless. Fuck everything, truly.

No. 2465489

>>2465288
>>2465322
They literally changed the definition of vaccine because of what a failure the covid experimental mRNA injection was lol. Like ya know, I'll take my TDaP no problem. My kid will get the MMR. Not the covid mRNA gobbledygook.

No. 2465509

So tired of being considered an anti vaxxer. I get all my vaccines and so do my kids. I even get flu shots. Never got the COVID vax and never will, if it actually fucking works I'll happily get it, but that's not reality, is it?

No. 2465775

After the Hailey is a stalker thing dropped, my tinfoil is that Stephen Baldwin wanted to get his claws on Justin Biebers money, and thats why he arranged for his daughter to get close to Justin and marry him as soon as possible (after 2 months). He is now working together with the cult church to get conservatorship over justin.

No. 2465783

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>>2465775
Great theory anon. Yeah it seems like her goal since birth was to be justin bieber's wife

No. 2465784

>>2465775
>Hailey is a stalker
Imo the only piece of semi-concrete evidence for this theory is the tattoo. The rest is tenuous or an outright lie, like the changed dates, and there's a non-zero chance it's being pushed by Selena's PR team considering the suspiciously timely album drop. Still, that wouldn't negate your theory at all, it's a known fact that older scrotes in Hollywood are cunning predatory leeches.

No. 2465805


No. 2465807

>>2465509
what do you mean by the vaccine "working"? As in never get COVID? Because vaccines and immunizations are not the same and while you can get a vaccine to fight against a disease, you are not completely immune.
The point of a vaccination is to prepare your body with the antibodies to defend itself from potential pathogens, so while you will still get sick, the symptoms wont be as severe if you went without.

No. 2465810

>>2465784
I mean I don't personally think she is a stalker, it was just eaiser to write it that way. I think she was a superfan and her dad groomed her and used his connections to insert her into Justins life. They obviously didn't organically meet.

No. 2465811

>>2465807
I get that but it hasn't done jack shit for anyone. It's one thing if it was once in a blue moon but these people are getting COVID more than normal it seems. Imagine getting the measles vaccine and then getting measles every damn year, wouldn't you have questions?

No. 2465824

>>2465784
I agree. Plus Selena has multiple tattoos that are very similar to ones both Hailey and Justin have, and most of the outfits Hailey has been accused of copying are either generic LA girl style or else, as you mentioned, the dates were literally changed by the person who made that thread and if you actually Google them instead of blindly believing the twitter thread, the real dates show Hailey wore them first with Selena following usually a few days to a couple of months later. Why is Hailey labelled a stalker based on tenuous and outright fabricated evidence but Selena gets ignored or treated like a victim despite actually doing the things Hailey is accused of doing and still releasing songs to this day moaning about her ex picking someone else?
It's not a coincidence that every single girl who's been linked to Justin Bieber has been treated like a villain in Selena's story. She can't get over him and is still possessive over him to this day. I bet she's instigating another hate train against Hailey because she feels extra crazy now her and Justin have had a baby. She has crazy stans for some reason, but I'd still be surprised if this level of vitriol and straight up lies were 100% organic.

No. 2465835

>>2465811
Again, a vaccination is NOT an immunization. It does not render you immune to infection nor does it reduce your chance of catching it if you are in a high risk area. The only purpose is to prepare your immune system with the antibodies required to fight off against the disease. Its why COVID symptoms from the beginning of the pandemic went from permanent loss of taste and chronic pulmonary issues to flu-like symptoms that go away in a week.

>Imagine getting the measles vaccine and then getting measles every damn year

Similarly theres a reason why there are no common cold/influenza immunization shots, why you have to take a vaccination each flu season in order to gain the immunity for it and why you still catch it despite taking the vaccinations so frequently. New pathogens are mutated and created infinitely and there is no singular antibiotic that can fight off against all pathogens. If it was a immunization and you still caught the virus thats when you should start being concerned regarding the authenticity of your injections (e.g. Hepatitis B, Measles as per your example)

No. 2465836

>>2465830
>flu-like symptoms that go away in a week
I never had the vaccine and that was the worst of my covid infection. So with that logic, the vaccine did nothing except increase the chance of death in certain populations.

No. 2465838

>>2465810
I bet this is how a lot of celebrity couples happen. Marriage between rich families have always, historically, been glorified business transactions, I don't see why that would suddenly change for celebrities. Justin is such a trainwreck that Hailey's dad would have a very plausible reason to push for a conservatorship "for safety", maybe he's even using the Diddy situation to dredge up old wounds/rumours.

No. 2465869

>>2465836
I could provide an anecdote of my own experiences that refute yours, but then we'd just spend our time back-and-forthing.

No. 2465894

>>2465836
My statement was incorrect, COVID symptoms generally aren't as severe as what I listed, what made it very dangerous in the first place was that its highly infectious via airborne particles/droplets which caused it to spread widely in a short amount of time. It should be noted that if your body is under attack by COVID, it leaves you vulnerable to other diseases, so in the beginning stages of the pandemic when people did not know the symptoms or treatment for COVID, hospitals quickly reached max capacity. Airborne transmissions thrive in crowded environments which makes it the perfect breeding ground to infect or worsen the conditions of a patient who is already suffering from COVID. (Hospitals are one of the most highly infectious areas to be around, there is a specific category of disease exclusive to hospital transmitted disease i.e nosocomial infections)

You mentioned that you are on top of your immunizations and flu vaccinations which means your immune system isn't as vulnerable and can fend itself against COVID well enough, but this is not the case for individuals who are immuno-compromised, very young/very old, injured.etc
COVID symptoms are primarily based on a person's underlying health and their immune system;
for example, my mother experienced deliberating symptoms of COVID due to chronic issues such as diabetes and hypertension that worsened her disease, in comparison I myself only experienced flu symptoms and temporary loss of taste (this was pre-vaccination and we are both essential workers).

So yes, if you feel your immune system is strong enough to take care of COVID feel free to not take it, the world's your oyster. Just take consideration that if you were to suddenly become injured, gain chronic illness, or simply get old, your immune system will be more susceptible to worsened symptoms and will not be prepared with the required antibodies to fend off the disease quickly. Also be aware that your children may not have an immune system as mature enough as yours and could experience worsened symptoms of covid were they to catch it along with other pathogens that could worsen their health such as influenza.

No. 2465973

>>2465894
Samefag, heres another simplification on how vaccination could have an effect on the spread and symptoms of covid:
>be unvaccinated and catch COVID
>body does not have antibodies to fend off pathogen so it takes longer to eliminate the disease
>your body currently carries the COVID pathogens as the immune system is still fending it off
>you spread the pathogens via airborne particles and secretions, potentially infecting a host that comes into contact with the disease
>disease infects another unvaccinated person
>cycle repeats and more people are infected

Another fact I should correct is that COVID symptoms are milder for infants and young children, HOWEVER, if the child is infected with COVID they could be susceptible to more dangerous diseases such as RSV, pertussis, hiB that the child is too young to receive immunizations for so you would need to get rid of the COVID symptoms as soon as possible.

No. 2465998

Goddamn y'all are still being paid to shill that mRNA injection? How little did you sell your integrity for? Are you allowed to say?

No. 2466009

>>2465998
God I wish I would get paid for it, instead I get paid in shekels having to take the brunt of caring for ill patients in a 7-17 shift. If youre not going to take the COVID vaccine at least do the bare minimum and take your tuberculin, measles, and HBV immunizations so you dont contract a double whammy of two contagious diseases consecutively and put additional strain on health care workers trying to make sure you dont fucking die.

No. 2466023

>get rabies vac bc I'm in vet school
>Get bitten by stray dog
>Whew at least I'm vaccinated yippie
>"Erm actually vaccination doesn't give you immunization nonna, gl"
>Begin foaming at the mouth and die
Can you imagine if this was actually the reality of the situation. Why lie about how vaccinations work just to shill one shitty mRNA injection that doesn't do shit. Why not just own it that it sucks. No one is dying from COVID.

No. 2466052

>>2466023
Don't be obtuse, what I said is a simplified definition on why COVID/Influenza is a reoccurring illness despite the repetitive vaccinations. I certainly could've worded it better by saying that vaccinations can lead to immunization however not all vaccinations can grant complete immunity to all pathogens.
I've never encountered a rabies case nor have expertise in it since contracting it is virtually nonexistent outside of contact with an infected animal (which vets are more susceptible to receiving) but as far as I know rabies is easy to prevent, harder and virtually impossible to cure.
The vaccination can fight against the rabies virus establishing itself in the central nervous system but it does not guarantee complete immunity should you not be on top of your boosters. Rabies is especially important to consider because it can remain doormant for years before symptoms show up and later become fatal.
Also not every stray animal is a potential host to rabies? So even if you were bitten by a stray that does not guarantee you foaming in the mouth and dying?
Thats like saying getting sneezed in the face will 100% guarantee a flu because thats how influenza is spread. Your chances are increased yes but its not guaranteed.

No one is dying from COVID, but it certainly will worsen the symptoms of other chronic diseases that will lead to their death.

No. 2466056

>>2465836
It can decrease mortality in some demographics. They used to only recommend routine flu vaccination to seniors and I think they should have kept it that way. I don't fully understand why some young, healthy people have such an intense reaction to vaccines but I believe it happens.

No. 2466082

>>2466052
Whatever LLM is being used to make these posts just outed itself by sperging out over hyperbole and satire. So sorry, maybe if you had been trained on something of higher quality than reddit posts we wouldn't have such a bad outcome.

No. 2466092

I think the connection between the COVID jab and long COVID is just that most anxious, malingering, worrywarts got the jab. Long COVID is just health anxiety. People with those mental problems are more likely to have gotten the jab, more likely to "experience" long COVID. Just like people with genders are more likely to "have" POTS, eds, chiari, etc.

No. 2466103

>>2466082
I dont know what I expected by being in the tinfoil thread but mine is that the contrarians that reject modern medicine is actually damage control to reverse the effects of eliminating diseases that was history's natural means of population control. good riddance I will not complain if people willingly sign themselves up to death if it means less occupied beds to care for.

No. 2466110

>>2466103
Everyone ITT has the normal vaccines and just objects to the shitty worthless mRNA jab. You can climb down off your cross whenever you want.

No. 2466115

>>2466103
I agree from the other side of things. I think if people want to be experimental lab rats or role the dice on potential side effects they have every right. The long jeopardy of the species kind of hinges on enough separate groups making different choices to see which choices pan out. If we all do the same thing and pick wrong we’re looking at a potential extinction level event.

No. 2466134

>>2427372
I agree nonna. They have gotten sloppy over the years producing younger and weaker mass shooters like the ones with botched google docs manifestos that only end up striking two people before killing themselves. Perhaps they're trying to speedrun the gun regulation thing by grooming children with parents that own unguarded firearms (who are becoming increasingly common)

No. 2466333

>>2465835
I've known probably one person who got the flu while getting the flu shot every year (was required at the hospital I worked), every single person I known with the vaccine ended up getting COVID multiple times anyway. But god forbid we hold manufacturers responsible and actually, you know, improve it

No. 2466335

>>2465835
If that's it and the virus already has a higher survival rate than almost any other virus what's the point of people acting like complete Nazis about the vaccine? If I know I have a 99%+ rate of survival, and I don't get vaccinated which means I have a 100% rate of not having vaccine side effects why would I just take that away? So I can end up like the moron in the screenshot >>2463803

No. 2466336

>>2466333
my entire family got the vaccine and didn’t get COVID. we weren’t shut in hypochondriacs either.

No. 2466339

>>2466336
Same for me, I caught covid way before the vaccine existed, and once I was vaccinated I never caught it again despite being exposed several times because of coworkers, friends and family members I live with who caught it. Covid was nothing like the flu for me and symptoms depends on each person so who knows how that works exactly but it worked for me.

No. 2466341

>>2466336
My entire family didn't get vaccinated and we didn't get COVID either and aren't at risk of the vaccine side effects. It's a win win

No. 2466845

>>2464746
There's astral projection forums where people talk about projecting on different planets and there's apparently humans on Venus

No. 2466887

>>2465894
My immune system is absolute shit but it managed to fight off covid on it's own even though it took longer than for other people. What it wouldn't be able to fight of is all the other shit that was in the vaccine.
>>2466115
One of my friend's got 6 jabs and said he's looking forward to another one. Fucking insane, he really belives it's a good thing to this fanatical point. He had pretty bad health this last year "without any reason".
>>2466845
There might have been lifeforms there in the past when it was habitable for life. Astral projection can often take you to see things from the past. Wish i could see mammoths but the furtherst thing from the past i saw was happening sometime in 1910-30's.

No. 2468211

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>luke skywalker (enki)
Kek I love being a tinfoiler

No. 2468271

>>2465894
The milder symptoms may or may not be the work of the vaccine. Remember that at around the time the vaccines were rolling out, the virus had already mutated naturally into a milder version of itself which resembled the flu. There were early studies which showed a worsened immunity after two shots of the vaccine, not to mention that the manifacturers withheld important information on the known side effects for a lot of time, I can't blame people for thinking that the covid vaccines were shady dangerous things, especially because the majority of the population didn't have a choice not to take it (remember when governments forced you to take it and took away your right to work, study and buy things if you didn't?).
Plus you talk about spreading the disease, but remember that the manufacturers for the vaccines actually said that they were never tested to stop the spread and most likely didn't (another thing we were gaslighted about).

>>2466009
If hospitals and health care workers actually did their fucking jobs (and if the governments let them) we would have had half of the issues that came up with covid. Many deaths were due to neglect, wrong treatment and refusal to give medications even when available. Most politicians are old ass fuckers with at least 2 illnesses, but I wonder why none of them died from covid when they caught it.

No. 2469820

>>2465322
>Smart enough to be on the tinfoil thread talking about how COVID vaccines don't work
>But not to look up whether the flu vaccine or other vaccines work
I never get how people will see that one government shilled thing version 4.2.a which has had billions of dollars poured into making people believe it is actually a total fabrication but never stop to check out ver. 4.1.a or 4.1.b.

No. 2469832

>>2465894
Everything you said in this comment is pretty much false, anon. COVID was never 'very dangerous' in the first place. You keep talking like it is but it just wasn't, even mainstream science is now admitting that with great frequency. A mild cold (which it always was) spreading frequently in a short time is how every seasonal ILI works and no one ever talks about other similar colds as 'very dangerous' even though they can kill old people.
>people did not know the symptoms or treatment for COVID
Yes they did, from the very start COVID symptoms were just 'regular cold/flu symptoms' and there have been no changes to that at any intervening point. That's still the official symptoms of COVID, is 'a cold.' Hospitals reached 'max capacity' because they let fewer people in, not because there were more sick people.
>You mentioned that you are on top of your immunizations and flu vaccinations which means your immune system isn't as vulnerable
There's no evidence for this and has never been any evidence for this and that's really not how the immune system works.
>but this is not the case for individuals who are immuno-compromised
Do you even know what that word means?
>very young
People who are very young were never at any risk from COVID at all, they are literally the safest group that handles minor colds the best out of all demographics.
>for example, my mother experienced deliberating symptoms of COVID due to chronic issues such as diabetes and hypertension
No shit, older people with diabetes and hypertension don't handle colds as well as young and healthy people.
>if you feel your immune system is strong enough to take care of COVID feel free to not take it
No one would have cared enough to be arguing about it 4 years later if people were 'free to not take it' in the first place. It's hilarious reading these posts acting like they were born yesterday or lived in a cave in serbia since 2018. Almost every human being in the world was pressured and coerced to take the vaccine, nonna, that's why people are still upset about it.

>>2465973
This entire explanation is incredibly scientifically illiterate and I think you should spend some more time researching if you're as interested in this topic as you seem to be. A good starting point is to ask yourself which antibodies, in which tissues, would help 'fend off' the COVID pathogen versus which antibodies, in which tissues, the vaccine creates, and for how long, and their pharmacokinetics generally.

It's also incredibly dishonest to type up borderline glowie-posts like this 4 years after everyone was forced to take the vaccine because most of us here are not 5yos and are old enough to remember the definition of vaccine that was on the WHO website and the things that the vax creators and vax shills themselves were saying at that time. They claimed the vaccine was necessary because it would completely halt transmission, and that vaccinated people could not get or transmit COVID. Now we're all just supposed to settle for this juvenile retcon of 'no, we all knew that vaccines didn't work that way!!' Embarrassing that a person who claims to work in the healthcare system is shilling this medically uneducated garbage when you had years to look up some actual information. Then making repeated samefagging posts 5 minutes later trying to correct the multiple errors you noticed you made right afterwards, probably because you never bothered to look up basic facts until after shillposting.

>>2466009
>tuberculin
Where do you live, Venezuela? They don't even give the TBG vaccine in first world countries.

>>2466103
>contrarians that reject modern medicine
Seems to be you considering the garbled antiscientific nonsense you posted all over the thread. It's always the least educated people with the least apparent background in 'modern medicine' who accuse others of being 'anti science' and 'anti modernity' but won't pick up their modern computer and use their modern wifi connection to access some modern pubmed articles (or even older ones!) which can be read for free on the modern internet.

>>2468271
>the virus had already mutated naturally into a milder version of itself which resembled the flu.
It always resembled the flu from the very beginning. It IS, currently, in essence, the flu. It always was. The tests couldn't even accurately tell you if you had COVID or some other virus or nothing. All anyone who 'got COVID' knew for a fact was that they had a flu, during a time when people were saying 'COVID is going around,' but it could have been any other ILI as well. As you say, the immune response has been shown (both observationally and mechanistically) to be worsened by the vaccine and this information was at least partially available before they even rolled it out. The whole thing was such a transparent psyop.

No. 2469846

>>2466092
Long Covid is not health anxiety, long covid is myalgic encephalomyelitis.

No. 2469863

>>2469846
Chronic eepy disorder is not real.

No. 2469872

>>2469863
It probably is real, as in people are really tired and it's probably due to some baseline health issues, but I don't believe it's an actual concrete disease and certainly it doesn't have a known etiology, so saying
>Long Covid is not health anxiety, long covid is myalgic encephalomyelitis.
is basically equivalent to saying
>chronic eepy disorder is not chronic eepy disorder, it is actually chronic eepy disorder.

No. 2469875

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>>2469832
Based queen.

No. 2469883

>>2469863
I wish you were right but unfortunately you’re not. Hope nobody you love ever develops it.

No. 2469945

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>>2469875
Thanks nonna, I need to correct one thing from my post though, which is that I realized after posting you were pressured to take the vaccine even if you were literally a serbian cave hermit who didn't interact with society. So what's that anon's excuse?

No. 2470046

>>2468211
Enki is real and the one who is trying to save us from this prison that YHVH (Enlil) put us in

No. 2471524

>>2466887
Do you have any tips on how to get started?

No. 2471966

During covid lockdowns I remember a group doing astral projection tours and I signed up for it, but they cancelled due to interpersonal drama, very sad. We were planning on seeing the moon and some other places.

>>2469832
We do the tuberculin in Greece, nonnie… We're a first world country, aren't we? (Please say yes)

No. 2471970

>>2471966
I mean yes I'd say Greece is (just barely) a first world country but the vaccine is not a 'standard' vaccine in most wealthy countries by any means. And from what I understand countries like Greece mostly get their tuberculosis cases from migrants so it may persist there due to the large number of 'boat people' (sorry) because I don't think TB is very common in Greece generally. I have no idea where that other anon is from but the whole 'I hope you've gotten your other standard vaccines like (this vaccine most first world countries haven't had on their schedules in decades)' was just a really weird thing to throw in amongst all the other weird misinformation.

No. 2471996

>>2471970
>(just barely)
>'boat people'
Fair points all around.

It's really shocking to see people still shilling so hard for the narrative 5 years past the situation itself. Is it really so hard to go, "Yes, we over-reacted and in retrospect, we didn't need to do what we did to people and ruin their livelihoods over a mild cold." Is it really better to erode people's confidence in their health authorities and vaccines in general, even unto the point of changing the definition of vaccine? It just strikes me as so silly whenever I'm confronted with it. If someone heard "vaccines don't confer immunity" wouldn't they be more likely to get no vaccines rather than get the shitty covid one? "The covid one is shitty and doesn't prevent you from catching it, so only take it if you need it" would be so much better messaging rather than this.

No. 2472013

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>>2471524
With astral projection? I started when I was in highschool but I started with lucid dreaming (I didn't beive in astral projection at all then) and was doing it for about half of a year and then astral projection just happened to me two nights in a row so I didn't really have a strategy to learn it. I think though lucid dreaming is a good start with your mind abilities, I think it turns on a switch in your brain do be able to do more things.
When I was already doing astral projection regulary what helped me to induce it was: 1.Think about doing it a lot during the day 2. Talk about the experiences with my friend 3. Wake up in the middle of the night and go to the toilet (I don't know why but my body needs to walk a little bit before the projection, doesn't work if i just wake up and go back to sleep) Then lie on your back, no libs crossed, and just be like this and don't move. Then you could start to hear your own brainwaves (happens somtimes, sometimes not, but it's a good sign) Then you'll feel vibrations in your legs slowly going to your brain and when the vibrations reach your brain they stop and you need to get up. It's difficult to get up because you're tired but when you do you got up from your body and you're there. People usually panic at this point and it's over but if you learn to not panic it's a lot of fun.

No. 2472028

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>>2471996
No shade nonna I've been to Greece twice and was just there 2 summers ago and it is legitimately my fav place in the world in terms of food, nature, very friendly people etc. but I'd say it's closer to a mid-income country propped up by the wealth of Europe generally and when it comes to health care may be straggling a little compared to other wealthier countries. When I looked up TB cases in Greece I found picrel suggesting that a majority of Greek TB cases (there are not many) are migrant-related. There are many Western countries without regular TB vaccination which have similarly low case rates, not because the vaccines were so effective in the past or whatever but simply speaking because TB is a poverty disease that hardly affects anyone with access to clean water, good nutrition, etc. Like in Canada for example no one in the entire country regularly gets TB vaccines except for remote northern Inuit populations, who have an ongoing TB crisis but also barely have access to food or reasonable healthcare. I personally knew two people who worked with tuberculosis populations in Nunavut and neither of them were expected to get the TB vaccine themselves, because it was generally understood that as healthy people they wouldn't get it just from hanging out with TB positive populations for 3-4 months. Also TB can be treated with conventional antibiotics fairly easily until it's far-gone, so it's really an issue for communities without healthcare access mainly.

>Is it really so hard to go, "Yes, we over-reacted and in retrospect, we didn't need to do what we did to people and ruin their livelihoods over a mild cold."

Yeah it is hard for people because they put everything on the line for the narrative. The people who were hardcore vaccine shills for years and years alienated their friends and family members and told them they hope they'll die, it's not easy to come back from that. They gloated over myocarditis deaths claiming they only happened in the UNvaccinated, it's hard to come back from that and admit the vaccines were causing the myocarditis. It's just generally much harder to admit you're wrong after you've burned so many bridges and staked your entire reputation and sense of 'I'm a good person!' on a belief.

>Is it really better to erode people's confidence in their health authorities and vaccines in general, even unto the point of changing the definition of vaccine?

The problem is that the whole fiasco didn't seem to erode the average person's confidence that much. And for the people whose confidence was eroded, they had the convenient 'evil murderous antivaxxer getting everyone killed' narrative at the ready. That narrative actually made me (a biomedsci person who previously was super pro-vax) to look into past arguments for vaccines and I actually realized that there was not a lot of good evidence for prior vaccines either, but since they weren't as clearly harmful/dangerous as the COVID vax, it was very convenient to work up a narrative about the evil vax doubters as murderous psychopathic hippie homeschooler women who put everyone's kids at risk. People were already primed to think that antivaxer = bad, anti-science, etc. so the extent to which the average NPC's faith in the medical establishment was eroded by COVID seems very small. In fact, I've noticed a lot of people to this day in 2025 claiming that COVID was an example of why we need to completely trust big pharma and the biomedical establishment, and use it to promote and shill stuff like WPATH troon care and other dubious 'healthcare' as well. I've never seen other scientists like myself so smug and narcissistic as I have over the past few years because of how COVID inflated the public's idea of their importance.

>"The covid one is shitty and doesn't prevent you from catching it, so only take it if you need it" would be so much better messaging rather than this.

I would think that would be the case if your average person was rational, but sadly I no longer believe your average person is. People are completely stuck in their social media bubbles and don't want to think critically since it's hard. They will just accept whatever they're told.

No. 2472061

>>2472028
The whole covid debacle really opened my eyes to how fucking dangerous normies are. You had people saying unvaxxed should be put in camps or killed and have their kids taken away simply because they didn't immediately and unconditionally trust the brand new untested thing shat out by big pharma. We cannot coexist with these people, and they are a clear and present danger to us.

No. 2472079

>>2472061
Yeah it completely changed the entire way I look at the world. I used to look at those moids who went on about how 'most people are NPCs' and think that they were just autistic retards lacking theory of mind/empathy (and I still do to some extent) but I get why they said that now. After 2020 it was really hard to look at the regular normies around me in the world the same way anymore and I really do operate on the assumption now that most people are essentially NPCs for all intents and purposes. Like not in the sense that I don't think they have brains and cognition but in the sense that I don't think they really use their brains for much of anything approaching critical thinking or reasoning or really ask themselves any important questions about the world. If Man On The News says 'do X' they do X. If Man On The News says a week later 'doing X makes you a Nazi' they screech that they won't be friends with anyone who has done X ever again.

My parents and grandparents lived through one or several autocratic regimes (grandparents all lived through the holocaust essentially as well as invasions by the red army, etc) and they all said that COVID felt pretty much like the same thing even if it was less explicitly violent. In fact many of my relatives said it felt worse because of the way that everyone just quietly accepted it and didn't fight back. I lost so many friends and several of my friends openly admitted that they think vax passports are similar to Jim Crow segregation but 'it's okay because the government means well.'

The most heartbreaking thing was honestly seeing all these really accomplished near-retirement scientists (some with Nobel prizes) breaking down and crying over the way they were being mistreated just for bringing up basic scientific facts. Prior to COVID I was pretty convinced I wanted to stay in academia and try to become a science professor but it completely shattered my faith in the academic establishment. Random busker hippie couchsurfers I knew were making more logical sense than people with PhDs and if you actually had a science PhD and tried to give people any facts or evidence they would just go 'no, not you, the experts who have the same opinion as me.' I honestly started to obsessively read those articles about how some people don't have internal monologues and shit to try to grasp how it was possible for people to act so empty-headed but I still to this day can't really grasp what happened to people or how it is possible for them to be like that. It felt like I was getting an object lesson in 'how pretty much everyone in Germany became a Nazi overnight' because I used to think that was weird and hard to explain and now I don't anymore.

Sorry for the long rant but at this point the weirdest thing to me is that after COVID became less of a 'thing' and society went back to (relatively) normal, there's been a huge influx of science papers proving basically everything COVID skeptics and vax skeptics were saying, but everyone just ignores them. All the 'Trust The Science (TM)!!' retards have gone back to never reading or mentioning a single scientific abstract as hundreds of papers come out proving the whole thing was a total scam. There's still some level of suppression of science papers on the topic but it's far less aggressive than it was 2-3 years ago but it literally doesn't matter because no one gives a shit anymore as if the whole thing never happened at all; if you bring it up to normies they will act like it's some passe and dead topic no one should care about anymore even though it completely restructured society and fucked up the careers, education and developmental processes of billions of people.

No. 2472085

Let's say hypothetically that we are at the end of it all. What can we even do? I've felt like there's no future, that everything is leading up to something. I'm not depressed so I don't think it's that. I have felt like we are attacked on all sides spiritually and morally by degenerates and lunatics of all persuasions but nobody around me cares. I feel like maybe prison planet is real and we are trapped but also I feel like the book of revelations is actually happening. Things are falling apart I think that reality is unraveling. I've been an atheist/religion hater since I was a little girl, the male supremacy and hypocrisy of the churches of the world and of their believers made me hate it. But in these last couple of years I have felt like something is reaching out to me. Asking me to find it. I try to research certain things about history and the sex crimes of the elite and I get a ringing in my ears or hear a low humming. Has anyone experienced something similar? My family doesn't have a history of schizophrenia and I don't meet the criteria for it so I'm not going crazy I think.

No. 2472089

>>2472079
People where I live were literally wearing masks every time they went outside. Like even in open fields. I couldn’t respect most people after that.

No. 2472095

>>2472085
Idk nonna I don't get paranormal experiences or anything like that but I can relate to the feeling that things are unraveling (also as a lifelong atheist) and I understand why some people feel drawn to spirituality now. I can't really speak to what to do about spiritual stuff because I still don't but my attitude is to try to focus on the things that make life worthwhile (whether you feel it's a spiritual thing or not). Connecting with nature, creating things (art, even gardening, whatever), nurturing and helping other people, fostering a sense of community, just doing the things that feel important to you even if they aren't associated with typical 'success' metrics.

A lot of people have thought 'it's all unraveling' or 'the world is ending' at many points in history but then nothing like that happened, so I don't want to put too much stake in the subjective perception I have that things are falling apart because I think in civilization, things often fall apart cyclically. However I think for me or you as an individual, the way to not get dragged down by it is to live a life that is full and that includes not being afraid (of things like social censure, losing money/opportunities for speaking out or taking risks), devoting yourself to improving things concretely for people around you or the environment around you (I don't mean going to environmentalism protests, but like working the land, cleaning up when you see trash in nature, etc) and just trying to build a community in person with like-minded people.

>>2472089
Lol yeah where I live a bunch of people continue to wear masks to walk around outside, it's bizarre. During COVID I would go on hikes and people with masks would pass me on the hike and like literally jump into the forest when they saw us coming and like scramble to run 20feet up some forest slope. I also saw people swimming in mountain lakes with masks on.

No. 2472097

>>2472085
Just try to have a nice day every day. Eat delicious food. Creative pursuits. Volunteer and meet people. It doesn't really matter if society is collapsing until it does and we'll deal with it then. This is your life and you can work to make it fulfilling, pleasurable and meaningful. And I do have schizo issues but I still believe this and my life is ok

No. 2472104

>>2472089
>>2472095
The masks thing was a common practice in Asian countries long before COVID. They wear masks in general anytime they’re sick or might be sick. COVID made it more prominent in the west but there was definitely a precedent for it already.

No. 2472107

>>2472013
Wow interesting, I guess it makes sense that lucid dreaming would make it easier since it's an out of body experience in a way too. I've honestly never been that interested in lucid dreaming as it just seems like daydreaming with extra steps to me, but it's happened to me a few times so it's good to know that it could help. Astral projection is like an art of discovering the secrets of the universe and that has always appealed to me. I guess I will start a dream diary then!
Also this might be a long shot, but do you nonas think that this falling feeling that sometimes happens right before sleeping might be related to astral projection? I know it's supposed to be a reflex that kept our ancestors in the trees, but I've never really been satisfied with that explanation. When it happens to me or my nigel, the flinching is usually really visceral, so I doubt it would help sleep in trees, it seems more like it would lead to falling in the first place.

No. 2472111

>>2472104
First of all no not really, wearing masks during flu season in Asia was never an especially common practice (some people would do it but most wouldn't and at any rate it was more from a sense of politeness or not wanting to visibly look like shit than any real belief that it stopped colds/flus from spreading) and second, it's not like flus spread less in those countries anyway so if what you're saying was true then it would be another point against masks. Anyway all scientists knew already by early 2020 that wearing masks doesn't stop or slow the flu. It was just a ridiculous humiliation ritual bone that was thrown to people to feel like 'the government is doing something' and allowed society to conveniently ostracize people who didn't act like good little sheeple.

No. 2472114

>>2472079
I had such a similar experience to you, anon. The mistreatment really, really sticks with me. Where I live things were infamously totalitarian, you needed to show proof of vaccination+booster even to enter the grocery store. I'm glad we don't have to do that anymore, but I always just wonder, did everyone just forget that shit? We just live our lives like nothing happened for the most part, but I remember how instantly people toed the line and how aggressive they were if you were even a little hesitant, and most importantly I remember how this aggression had institutional backing. I'm still baffled at how some of my very bright, very kind friends immediately turned into broken records who would just repeat the mantras of that time and refuse to even consider that the government response may have been a little odd, let alone that the vaccine was being actively lied about.
I also remember seeing people swimming with masks on as recently as 2022. Here even surf beaches and hiking trails were closed by government decree. We had those bizarre proto-15-minute-city distance/time restrictions too which were fucking insane.

No. 2472116

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Some of the normie women who were beastly to me during covid are more contrite now. I mean, trust them less now that I know they're susceptible to brainwashing and will turn on me at any time. But hey, they can retroactively admit it was a silly situation. So not all hope is lost, right? So now with the new narrative of avian flu they'll be innoculated against media driven over-reaction… right? Am I too optimistic or what? I do have some people worried about my backyard flock infecting me.

No. 2472118

>>2472111
Why are you lying? actually yes wearing masks to prevent colds is common practice in Asia kek where did you hear it's done in "saving face"? Americans acting as If thin layer of paper cloth is the same as the Islamic niqab is hilarious kek

No. 2472120

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>>2472118
Why are you having an emotional reaction to words on a website? Picrel was definitely not common in Asia. Maybe a few scattering of masks on adults, but nothing on this scale. Nowhere near.

No. 2472130

>>2472114
Yeah I also lived in one of the places with the worst (and longest-lasting) restrictions in the world. Like curfews for literal years, couldn't go to any leisure activity or restaurant or bar, you couldn't enter certain big box stores without a vaxpass or if you could, you could only buy certain things there and not others (really weird), you couldn't buy alcohol, you couldn't get healthcare in some cases, etc. They never banned us from going to food-only grocery stores but there were restrictions on stores like Walmart that had other stuff that wasn't food. It only stopped around 2023 iirc, long after most places had gone back to being more sane.
>but I always just wonder, did everyone just forget that shit?
I also think this all the time. I'll have people who called me a nazi fascist murderer trying to ingratiate themselves with me again as if nothing happened even though they were publicly wishing for my (personal) death a couple years ago.
>my very bright, very kind friends immediately turned into broken records who would just repeat the mantras of that time and refuse to even consider that the government response may have been a little odd, let alone that the vaccine was being actively lied about.
Maybe they actually weren't very bright or very kind. I don't think of any of those people as bright or kind anymore. I think a lot of people manage to seem bright, kind, and normal when they aren't called upon to do any critical thinking or show any empathy for people who aren't exactly like themselves, but it's a smokescreen. Notably almost all my close friends, who actually cared about me, acted normal during COVID even if they initially disagreed with me - they would hear me out, have a conversation; most ended up agreeing with me after a few months. I think it's easy for people to seem 'smart' because they went to college and learned the Big College Words and it's easy for people to seem nice when there isn't any reason for them not to be, but the illusion is shattered when they're called upon to actually display intelligence or kindness under non-ideal conditions.

>>2472116
In what way are they contrite? Like did they actually look into it and reason their way through the situation and sincerely apologize or are they just trying to paper things over?

>>2472118
Do you have evidence of this 'widespread' constant mask wearing in 'Asian countries' during every past flu season? I live in a place with a huge number of East Asian immigrants and most of my friends who were recent Asian immigrants thought the masking shit was ultra ridiculous and insisted it was never normal back home. If you look at videos of places like Japan and China pre-2020 you can see from the surveillance video that not many people are wearing masks, you can also look at popular media and see that it wasn't normalized in media. And I also believe the dozens of Asian immigrants I personally know that they never saw such a thing irl.
>thin layer of paper cloth is the same as the Islamic niqab
No it's actually worse in some ways because the 'paper' aka fiberglass pasted to your face is far more dangerous than wearing loose cotton over your face. The small particles get lodged in your mucous membranes, throat and lungs, bacteria and fungi grow on them and are re-breathed, etc. But it's curious that the only thing you can think of to compare masks to is a cultural practice that exists to oppress and de-person women. It's almost like depersoning wearers is the whole point.

No. 2472131

>>2472120
No ones is being emotional here also the spainish flu also had mask guidelines but regardless they followed it,it can be hard for children to understand why they should wear masks but even so they still wore it in majority of Asia without drama unlike in the west (by which I mean america) which only showed how stubborn and retarded they were with basic prevention so much so they were willing to prolong covid far longer than it needed to be

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>>2472079
I remember a friend sharing a study on sperm count and motility after the covid jab using sperm donors who donated before and after they got it. The conclusion said that there was no significant change, but the actual t values of the samples shortly after, intermediately after, and after a greater period of time were still not even close to 0 compared to the before sample… Some of the T3's were even worse than the earlier samples. So the conclusion isn't supported by the data. They even admitted so in the discussion but decided the need to push the jab was worth lying about it. Even shown the tables and picrel she was just like "I don't understand the numbers, but the conclusion says blah blah blah." You can't tell if -14% change as compared to 0 from the pre-jab sample is better or worse? What if you had $0 and you check your bank later to find it has -14% of change happening in there. What can you determine about your bank balance from this? If your latest sample is -15.9%, would you consider that further away or closer to the number zero? Gosh I dunno, let's just have the smart science men tell us everything. Science and curiosity are completely fucking dead.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/andr.13209 here's the shitass study if anyone else wants to read it.

>>2472131
Masks have never been proven to do shit besides encourage tooth hygiene. Shills are so low quality it's sad.

No. 2472155

>>2472079
100% same here anon. I really do believe the majority of people are npcs now. I'm still coping with this information and what to do with it but I've mostly just stopped trying to converse or entertain these people and their ideas and accept they are not like me and they never will be. I'm trying to learn better how to communicate with them, which is really just manipulating them to get off your back more than actual human communication because they are not capable of that. Trying to convince them of anything is crazy, it's no different from trying to convince your cat to do something, it just doesn't have that capability. I'm continuing to build my wealth and exit plan so I don't have to rely on the cattle for anything.

No. 2472159

>>2472120
NTA but I'm chiming in to say wearing masks to prevent the spread if illness is common in Asian countries, notably in Japan. It has been common for a while, I remember watching a crowd clip in a movie set in Japan and many of the people were wearing face masks. I was around 10 years old.
>>2472131
It's okay to stop answering someone on lc when they're being weird or unnecessarily aggro. This goes double for tinfoil thread because you get the anti-vaxx/covid denier/flat earther type of posters. And this is the thread for them, they are not wrong to post in this thread about those things, but people in those communities tend to be more aggressive and stubborn. So if you've upset them, they aren't likely to listen to your side of the argument, and you might want to stop replying before it escalates to an infight.

No. 2472160

I still think some of you non-vaxxed covid truthers, perfect menstruation, purity breastmilk havers are as rabid and retarded as the opposite party.(baiting)

No. 2472161

>>2472130
I was in the infamous Australian city and we were threatened with $200(about 100 burgerbucks) fines for not wearing the thing, which nobody paid anyway. There’s one famous clip of like 5 cops arresting a guy for protesting and then jamming a mask on him like a muzzle. Humiliation ritual completely.

No. 2472167

>>2472089
I got written up for being alone inside a 47,000 sq ft warehouse without a mask and that's when I knew it was bullshit lmao. That was like 2 weeks into "2 weeks to flatten the curve" and I was an "essential worker".

>>2472161
Weren't yall practically put in camps when you caught it?

No. 2472174

>>2472167
Yea there were FEMA camps that they built outside the city and if you came from overseas you were out in two week quarantine. And some people were locked into a housing commission tower in an actual violation of human rights that they won their class action lawsuit for I think. Insane and people still dicklick our retarded government because “it saved lives”. Say what you want about the States but I can’t imagine that happening over there.

No. 2472190

>>2472159
Lol being skeptical of the covid vax with all the information we have on just how shitty and worthless it is being lumped in with all the other stuff that's completely wacky. Maybe people are "aggro" with you because you're using the same argumentation we've heard for literally 5 years despite 0 scientific support. I'm glad you got an opportunity to wk some nonnie tho, I'm digging your girl supporting girl vibe, keep it up.

No. 2472196

>>2472131
Yeah the retards in 1918 who poisoned thousands of people with like 50 aspirin pills per day did so well at suppressing Spanish Flu deaths that the like 2 US cities with mask mandates also happened to have the highest death counts. Wearing cheesecloth over their faces totally saved them tho!
>the west (by which I mean america)
IDK why you keep mentioning America specifically when it's obvious most nonnas in this thread aren't even American but no, people all over the world struggled to wear masks because it's unnatural and unhealthy and damaging to the human organism to cover your face in fiberglass all day and rebreathe your own carbon dioxide. Also masks didn't 'prevent' anything and the scientists shilling masks knew that to begin with.

>>2472147
There were like literal thousands of studies that did this same thing nonna. Studying something, finding that the vaccine actually was harmful or causing side effects or that X 'prevention measure' didn't work or whatever but then the conclusion would just be like 'well this isn't concerning enough to stop forcing everyone to do the dangerous thing though so!' Meanwhile when SSRIs have 14% efficacy above placebo doctors prescribe them to everyone and their dog.

>>2472155
Personally, same as you, I stopped trying to converse with and entertain the NPCs. I used to be an extremely extroverted social butterfly, make small talk with basically every stranger I encountered outside, etc. but COVID led to me being a lot more selective with who I waste time on. I'm still extroverted and nice to strangers in public but I don't view your average person as a potential friend anymore and I try to save my energy for people who really matter to me. You're right that trying to convince retards of anything is basically a waste of time, it served me well during COVID because 'onlookers' would read/hear the arguments and be convinced but it's mostly not worth it to get upset about NPCs acting like NPCs.

>>2472159
Again do you have actual evidence that regular mask-wearing by large numbers of people was ever actually 'widespread' in Japan? Or is your evidence just 'I saw a movie 10 years ago and some people were wearing masks in the crowd and I know for sure it was because preventing diseases even though Japan didn't have less colds than any other country'?
>anti-vaxx/covid denier/flat earther type of posters
Lmao at talking to actual scientists and educated people posting academic papers and transparently trying to write them off as 'flat earther type of posters.' This is a fantastic example of the low-effort shill mentality of 'I have no evidence of anything I'm saying but I won't be bothered engaging with people who actually know something about a topic.' God forbid people be stubborn about reality. Next you're going to tell me that biological sex doesn't exist because 'the CDC told us that sex is a spectrum and you can change it by having a gender feeling.'

No. 2472209

>>2472160
Not wanting some weird new gene therapy injected into your body isn't a party affiliation anon.

>>2472167
>I got written up for being alone inside a 47,000 sq ft warehouse without a mask
Lol this reminds me of that news story where two hikers were climbing some remote mountain in the US and they sent helicopters to get them off the mountain because they were 'spreading COVID' lmao.

>>2472174
Shit like this happened in Canada too, there were videos of people being interned in weird prison camps in the North of Alberta when they tested positive at their oil rig jobs. Some guy 'escaped' the facility and filmed the whole thing it was insane, but also there were just regular 1-2 month quarantine hotels for anyone who came from overseas/visited another country too that were less secretive.

>>2472190
It really just shows how effective government propaganda and brainwashing procedures are that in 2025 with all the hundreds/thousands of pubmed articles confirming 'covid skepticism' you still get people acting like being skeptical of big pharma gene therapies is the same thing or at least similar to flat-eartherism. Forget that most of the world's most accomplished scientists didn't buy into the vax grift, The News Man said so.

No. 2472246

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>>2472196
>Again do you have actual evidence that regular mask-wearing by large numbers of people was ever actually 'widespread' in Japan? Or is your evidence just 'I saw a movie 10 years ago and some people were wearing masks in the crowd and I know for sure it was because preventing diseases even though Japan didn't have less colds than any other country'?
Nta but actually yes. At least since 150 years ago it's been a thing for influenza, privacy concerns (being seen out in public), no makeup days, hiding tiredness etc.


>Masks started to be used in Japan in the 1870s, about 150 years ago. At the time, people working at coal mines and factories wore the masks to protect themselves from dust. It is said that black masks were the most popular as dirt does not stand out with this color.



>In general, masks are often used for preventing epidemics. In Japan, people wear masks in many cases to avoid passing on germs to other people if they catch a cold or an infectious disease. On the other hand, a large number of people in Japan put on masks in public places even if they are not feeling unwell. One reason for this is hay fever, a condition present in about 30% of Japanese people.

Hay fever refers to the sneezing, runny nose, and other symptoms that people feel due to an allergic reaction that happens when pollen enters the body from Japanese cedars, Japanese cypresses, or other trees. There is a large amount of pollen in the air during the spring and fall in particular, and many Japanese people suffer symptoms such as sneezing and runny nose during these seasons. Wearing a mask helps to ease these symptoms, so Japanese people suffering from hay fever have a custom to wear masks at school or work as well as when going outside.

https://web-japan.org/trends/11_culture/pop202008_mask-culture.html

No. 2472255

>>2472097
This is good advice nonna and thanks for posting it. The way to fight this feeling is to live a good life that you're happy with if you can. Despair is the first psyop.

>>2472130
>in what way are they contrite… are they just trying to paper things over?
Well… At this point I'll accept trying to paper things over. At least for long term friends and family. I think the real driver for the covid situation and brainwashing was to divide families and make people trust each other less. I mean, just look at how divisive this topic still is, you know? You cannot have a civil discussion about it and the shills just repeat the same lines over and over with 0 thought. I'll accept papering it over if it means I can still be in my family's life and keep lifelong friends. My mom has said she regrets how much she "got into it" and no longer has the TV on the news all day. But I can definitely understand the feelings of nonnas who don't want to risk being turned on again lol.

>>2472246
>posts something from 2020 as proof
um…
but anyway even setting aside if it's common in Japan or not (I'll accept that use of masks isn't unusual in the country, ntayrt) that has no bearing on whether they're effective specifically for covid or anything at all. There's already enough evidence that these masks don't do anything. They're a signaling for politeness at most.

No. 2472256

>>2472246
Sorry my bad, I should have asked, do you have any PRE-2020 evidence that regular mask-wearing by large numbers of people was widespread in Japan? You're basically confirming my prior assertion that
>some people would do it but most wouldn't and at any rate it was more from a sense of politeness or not wanting to visibly look like shit than any real belief that it stopped colds/flus from spreading
with your own assertion that
>it's been a thing for influenza, privacy concerns (being seen out in public), no makeup days, hiding tiredness etc.
But I was actually looking for evidence that it was actually widespread for a majority or even a large minority of East Asians to wear masks throughout flu season. I don't think anyone is denying that some Japanese people wore masks sometimes for various reasons.

>people working at coal mines and factories wore the masks to protect themselves from dust

>due to an allergic reaction that happens when pollen enters the body
So two types of particles dramatically larger than viral particles which masks actually have some chance of stopping or minimizing. Got it. I'm still asking about respiratory diseases here though.

Even your own post-2020 mask normalization link states that
>masks have not been popular among people in Japan for so long
but the link provides no actual numbers or stats on the prevalence of mask usage for influenza other than just stating that it 'became increasingly common.'

No. 2472275

>>2472255
>Despair is the first psyop.
It really is. One of the things the whole COVID debacle taught me was that I can't just sit around waiting for society to get better to have the kind of life that I want. There are lots of terrible and disturbing things about our modern society and there are reasons to worry about a collapse but there are also tons of amazing opportunities modern society grants us that many of our forebears didn't have, like access to almost infinite information for free via the internet, access to almost infinite people for free via the internet, fairly widespread women's rights especially the right to work and control our own finances, increased geographical mobility, generally abundant (if low quality) food and clean(ish) water, low incidence (ironically considering the current topic) of deadly disease, etc. So I see no point in despairing and overfocusing on the bad aspects of modern society or doomerism, even though it's good to stay wary and keep up to date. We have a lot of control over our fate compared to women even 100-200 years ago and we should take that opportunity and live well.

>brainwashing was to divide families and make people trust each other less

This is a typical goal of all authoritarian regimes. I think you're right that when it comes to your own family it can be worth it to accept papering things over, but I also think that with voluntary associations like friends/acquaintances I'd be less likely to do that. I have been carefully curating the friends I put time and energy into now after seeing 5 years ago that many people I considered 'friends' would literally throw me under a moving bus or sell me out to the stasi if they had the chance. I don't want/need people like that in my life anymore and my life has been a lot better after removing them. The thing is as much as 'the government was trying to divide us' is true, it's also true that the people who turned against you had a choice not to do that and they did it anyway. I wouldn't want to be locked in a bunker with that kind of person when the next Bad Thing happens. At the end of the day it was their choice and I had plenty of people in my life who didn't throw me under the bus or wish for my death, so I'll be sticking with those people from now on.

>that has no bearing on whether they're effective specifically for covid or anything at all

In fact if mask wearing for flu season had been extremely widespread in Japan/China/SK prior to 2020 it would actually be further evidence that they're ineffective (not like we don't already have enough evidence), because it's not like those countries had dramatically fewer ILI cases than other high-pop nations. I just think it's funny how hard Westerners try to retcon this when every recent East Asian immigrant I know is like 'uh no that's fake and we never did that.'

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>>2472255
>>2472256
>>2472275
>>that has no bearing on whether they're effective specifically for covid or anything at all
>In fact if mask wearing for flu season had been extremely widespread in Japan/China/SK prior to 2020 it would actually be further evidence that they're ineffective (not like we don't already have enough evidence), because it's not like those countries had dramatically fewer ILI cases than other high-pop nations. I just think it's funny how hard Westerners try to retcon this when every recent East Asian immigrant I know is like 'uh no that's fake and we never did that.'

I'm thankful that this prompted me to search for an extensive research paper from 2014 that hopefully answers you and the above nonas' questions. It does give thought to whether it's ritualistic or actually effective though.

>Although the general public reacted negatively to this compulsory mask-wearing, San Francisco, for example, achieved a sharp decline of new flu cases after the enforcement of its Mask Order. This case became known as a successful battle against Spanish influenza. Barry (2005: 375), however, argues: “The city had simply been lucky.” Nonetheless, in contrast to “the paralysing fear found in too many other communities,” people in San Francisco “felt a sense of control:” “They thought that they had controlled it, that they had stopped it” (Barry 2005: 375). Although these masks might have been in fact useless against the influenza virus itself, they gave people a sense of control over the pandemic.


>The Japanese post-Spanish influenza pandemic report Ryūkōsei Kanbō (Naimushō Eiseikyoku 2008 [1922]) tells that Japanese health authorities had learnt by autumn 1918 how Western nations had responded to the pandemic, including mask-wearing in San Francisco and other cities. In February 1919, according to the report, the National Public Health Bureau instructed local authorities to encourage people to wears masks in places where flu patients were admitted and other places with a high risk of infection. This was followed by more detailed guidelines, which added mask-wearing in crowds, on trains, and on trams. Notably, mask-wearing was recommended to healthy people, but not to flu patients. Meanwhile, those who were coughing and sneezing were told to cover their noses and mouths with handkerchiefs or tenugui (literally, hand clothes), but not by masks. In October 1919, local authorities were instructed to provide free masks to those who could not afford them. Theatres, cinemas, and buses were added to the list of the places where masks should be worn.


>In contrast to the American “Mask Order,” mask-wearing in Japan was well received by the public. The post-pandemic report Ryūkōsei Kanbō (Naimushō Eiseikyoku 2008 [1922]) indicates high level of mask-wearing in Japan. In Fukui Prefecture in 1920, for example, it was estimated, according to information obtained from 14 police stations, that some 80 per cent of all households were using masks


etc. etc. But my point is not to argue effectiveness at slowing the spread of flu germs alongside other preventative measures, but to prove that Japanese have been wearing them for various reasons for ages before CoVid. I've known about it myself since the early 2010s, I can even ask my partner and inlaws about it, but i'd rather not devolve into "trust me bro, so-and-such person from (whatever demographic) said (x thing) which proves my point" since that wouldn't be very helpful or convincing.

https://www.japanesestudies.org.uk/ejcjs/vol14/iss2/horii.html

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>>2472306
There is plenty of real science showing that masks are not effective for stopping flu anon, we don't have to rely on anecdata like
>San Francisco, for example, achieved a sharp decline of new flu cases after the enforcement…
since flu and other viruses decline naturally after they peak. You can find plenty of articles from the time both arguing the masks didn't (and couldn't possibly, physically) do shit (which remains true and known by fluid physicists and OSHA people today) and talking about how unpopular the mask mandate was in San Francisco at the time. It is interesting that the article mentions a 'sense of control' though since this was often cited by public health authorities pushing mask-wearing in 2020 as a good reason to implement masks. Like some anons said above, the mask mandates were about a 'sense of control' rather than about stopping COVID transmission, which they already knew wouldn't work. If you're interested you can let me know and I can dig up some sources about this but if not I won't bother. There's another quote about this later in the article:
>‘Risk ritual’ also constructs the same double meaning. The term indicates apparent ‘irrationality’ of risk discourse in the clinical context in which a probabilistic talk would not increasing the chance of avoiding illness (Crawford 2004), and various apparent risk avoidance behaviours, which do not reduce actual risks they are associated (Moore and Burgess 2011). At the same time, ‘risk ritual’ articulates the behavioural adaptation to “a pervasive sense of uncertainty” and “a collective sense of disempowerment” (Moore and Burgess 2011: 119), in which “[o]ne must acts as if one is in control” (Crawford 2004: 523).

>post-pandemic report Ryūkōsei Kanbō (Naimushō Eiseikyoku 2008 [1922]) indicates high level of mask-wearing in Japan. In Fukui Prefecture in 1920, for example, it was estimated, according to information obtained from 14 police stations, that some 80 per cent of all households were using masks

This was during the 1918 influenza specifically, not generally in the last 100 years. Your article does suggest that
>between 22.8 per cent (Interwired 2009) and 48.7 per cent (Hakugen 2010) of respondents wore masks as a protection against influenza
but does not actually suggest that mask-wearing (for everyone) was widespread throughout flu season. It specifically says that
>Another survey published in 2009 showed that about three out of four respondents were willing to wear masks when suffering from a cough (what the article doesn't mention was that this study was conducted by a mask manufacturer, Unicharm).
>The term “cough manner,” which was mentioned earlier, had originally appeared as “cough etiquette” (seki echiketto) in PIEAC’s minutes in 2006, as well as in the Japanese version of the government’s influenza guidelines. In the popular media discourse, when the term appeared in March 2007, it did not initially mean wearing masks, but covering your nose and mouth with tissue paper or handkerchiefs, when coughing or sneezing. Masks, however, became included in the term in October 2007. Thereafter, “cough etiquette” became almost equal to mask-wearing by those coughing and sneezing.
so not like during COVID where throughout the entire 'COVID season' everyone was wearing masks whether sick or not, the article only states that people 'were willing to wear them' when they themselves actively were sick, which goes back to the politeness point me and other nonnas made. This tracks with what I myself have heard from Japanese immigrant friends who said that people who were actively sick or had allergies would wear masks on the train etc. or at work but that it was at most 1/10 or 1/20 people at any given time, not a majority of society every flu season. And Japan is actually fairly unique in this; my Chinese and Korean friends said it was far less common for sick people than in Japan. I also followed the links for the 2 cited surveys claiming high prevalence of mask wearing and both led to 404 not found pages, so I'm guessing these were small news surveys at best (one was by a mask manufacturer on their product website); I can't even confirm that the cited surveys ever existed.

Another quote from the article suggests that even in situations where everyone was encouraged to wear masks, many people refused and they wore masks selectively:
>Masks were distributed at the shelters and everyone was encouraged to wear one, but while some women would wear one while preparing rice balls, others would not. The same women also would not always wear a mask when they were cooking. The priest told me to wear a mask when I went out to walk around town because of the dust, though he himself never wore one.
>The lack of clearly targeting and systematic usage suggests that the mask-wearing is practiced in an individualistic manner, not necessarily constructing a rigid collective norm around the practice, while it is “socially embedded as a general protective practice” (Burgess and Horii 2012: 1184)

At another point, the article states that mask-wearing re-emerged in the 80s due to the high number of people wearing them for hay fever, and, interestingly, this correlated to antivax sentiment:
>In the 1980s, when the hay fever mask became common in Japanese society, flu masks gradually reappeared. This comeback was triggered by the heightened anxieties over flu vaccination. Under the banner of “social protection,” the public health authority tried to control influenza by preventing its spread in schools at first. “However, in the late 1980s, questions about this policy and vaccine’s efficacy arose, and a campaign against vaccination began”
>The decline of flu vaccinations directed people to masks again, in the hope of protection against influenza.

This is neither here nor there but I find this line from the intro of your article very interesting:
>Furthermore, in the 2000s, the discourse around the practice of mask-wearing has been loaded by neoliberal ideology, which increasingly transfers responsibilities for managing health risks from the state to individuals. Mask-wearing has increasingly become its embodiment.
>In this context, mask-wearing has become “a disciplinary device in neoliberal politics” (Manzenreiter 2012: 81), which emphasises the responsibility of the individual for one’s health.
Presented without comment.

Picrel is a photo of a Tokyo train station on Dec 22, 2010. Note how many masks.

No. 2472342

>>2472255
>Despair is the first psyop.
Never forget: if the situation was really hopeless, the propoganda would be unnecessary

No. 2472347

>>2472337
Samefag but here's a timelapse video of Shinagawa station a few years before COVID, see if you can clock anyone wearing a mask.

No. 2472348

>>2472013
>>2472107
I can’t lucid dream at all. I’ve heard of people trying to read stuff on their dreams to trigger lucid dreaming cause reading or looking at your phone are usually not possible for most people in dreams (they can’t find their phones or anything written looks like gibberish) but I check my phone and read stuff ALL THE TIME in dreams. I’ve had dreams of sitting down and reading Wikipedia articles.

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>>2472347
Samefag, another pic of right outside Shinjuku station late Oct 2010. I'll stop now but I'll believe the actual photos and video footage and people who lived there over a survey done by a mask production company.

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>>2472347
that didn't take very long and there are three people wearing masks in >>2472352

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>>2472337
>There is plenty of real science showing that masks are not effective for stopping flu anon, we don't have to rely on anecdata like

No. 2472368

>>2472362
Yeah because they had covid instead. That is so funny. They just swapped out illnesses and cancel the flu to invent covid deaths

No. 2472383

>>2472359
Wow, one (in a video of thousands of people) and three (? I only see two), out of hundreds! Extremely widespread mask-wearing indeed! I am convinced that everyone wore masks during flu season in Japan now.

>>2472362
kek this is because flu was replaced by COVID. Flu virions are a similar size to COVID virions so if masks were responsible for this there wouldn't have been COVID either. That's also anecdata btw, again I offered to show you real science if you're interested.

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Can we get a Covid/pandemic/mask skepticism thread? cause this is specifically so fucking boring. I fucking hate this dumbass back and forth. And idk if it should even count as tinfoil since both sides have scientific studies and that’s what’s being discussed moreso than any tinfoil aspects to the pandemic. Grrrr stop being so boring there’s so much stuff to tinfoil about that ISNT COVID AND MASKS AND VACCINES

No. 2472395

>>2472383
you literally dared to find one person with a mask and he appeared as soon as the video switched from the shitty cctv footage kek

No. 2472404

>>2472392
You can just make a comment about what you want to talk about, anon. Personally I don't think alchemy, lucid dreaming or archons really count as 'tinfoils' as I understand them and lots of people think COVID vax shit is a 'conspiracy theory' (most of the shit people call conspiracy theories has actual evidence behind it) but the thread was dominated by archons, spirituality and gods discussions for weeks. Let people talk about the tinfoils they want to talk about and post about the ones you want to talk about. Anons could just as easily ask for a 'spirituality and gnosticism' thread but it all gets posted here. Actually if we can't talk about the conspiracy where almost all the world's economies were effectively shut down and subjected to authoritarianism by almost every single world government (almost like it was a… one world government decree) and some 6-7 billion people were coerced into getting a novel gene therapy injected into them, idk what even the point would be of pretending this is a thread about conspiracies. The biggest, most widespread and significant conspiracy in a century just happened and it's 'too boring'?

>>2472395
Yeah the one person wearing a mask isn't indicative of some society-wide norm that everyone was participating in. I hate to tell you that's not what 'a majority or large minority' means. No one at any point in the thread denied that occasionally a singular Asian person would wear a mask pre-2020.

No. 2472426

>>2472404
Where is there any evidence that the Covid vaccine is “gene therapy”?

No. 2472433

>>2472426
It was invented by a guy named Gene

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>>2472426
Uh it literally definitionally is. All you have to do to see that this was commonly accepted fact until the 2020 propaganda push is to adjust your slider on a pubmed search to before 2020. Picrel.

No. 2472435

>>2472426
… The mRNA part.

>>2472392
I wouldn't mind more of a mix of topics. Honestly. I feel like the covid stuff just gets so heated. If there were a thread only for that, it would just be another unpopular opinions thread, ie infight central

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>>2472434
Samefag here's another one

No. 2472440

>>2472348
I see my phone in dreams too… I remember seeing memes a while back about how you see your phone irl so often and yet never see it in a dream. And… now I do see it in my dreams. I haven't purposefully tried to lucid dream very much but I have had a few dreams where I just spontaneously realized it's a dream, those are fun. I should work on it

No. 2472444

>>2472435
There's been a wide mix of topics on this thread anon, the COVID thing just came up last weeks after months of people talking about other things. 'It gets heated' seems like a weird excuse not to talk about a conspiracy in the conspiracy thread. I wouldn't mind if there were more specific threads for specific things but there used to be a COVID thread where discussion of vaccines and similar was banned and people were directed to this thread instead so farmhands clearly prefer for the discussion to happen here. People will argue 'it doesn't belong in the thread' no matter what people discuss in this thread because it seems like such a wide range of topics is discussed here from like random philosophical gnosticism talk to glowy stuff to COVID to sexism. But I guess people with an issue should post in /meta/ since the thread OP just says
>Do you have somewhat schizophrenic beliefs that worry your friends and family? Tired of getting red-texted for "tinfoiling" about recent events around the globe? If so, you've come to the right place.
>Discussions surrounding government cover-ups, entertainment industry secrets, odd predictions, political intrigues, etc., are all welcome here.
Personally I think the COVID shit is a proven conspiracy and less 'conspiracy theorish' than half the stuff talked about in random /ot/ country and politics threads, not a 'conspiracy theory' at all but I'm sure a lot of people in other threads would disagree with me, so…

No. 2472449

>>2472444
Ayrt, I'm not against covid discussion… I'm against it having a containment zone where it can just be a 24/7 infight instead of having little breaks.

No. 2472452

>>2472449
Oh I get it, that makes sense. I just check up on this thread every once in a while and if it's something I'm not interested in I leave unless I have something I really want to post about.

No. 2473184

>>2472440
I have seen it too. I have bizarre mini sleep episodes from time to time where I just continue to dream about what I am doing right now and sometimes it's using my phone. It's very confusing because I don't know what I actually did and what I imagined.

No. 2473385

>>2473184
Wow that's scary. I only had one dream like that when I had a high stress job. I kept waking up to do a task, but I was actually dreaming doing the task. When I finally woke up for real, it was very strange.

I just had a dream where I saw my phone. I was trying to turn on my VPN, but I couldn't make sense of my phone's lockscreen. I've only recently been seeing my phone in my dreams… how odd.

No. 2475440

>>2473385
My phone always upgrades to whatever type of phone I have currently for the most part, so I’ve dreamed of using my phone since I had a moto rzr flip phone kek. Nowadays I often dream I’m locked out of my phone or it just isn’t fucking working when I try to use it, like it’s got insane lag. Don’t have that issue when using a desktop pc in my dreams though, which, desktops and consoles and TVs have figured prominently in my dreams and since childhood since we’ve always had such things.

The scariest thing to experience in dreams are smells imo. Doesn’t anyone else have smells feature in their dreams? Even if it’s a good smell and a good dream, it’s always offputting. And yet I still can’t fucking lucid dream. My dreams basically non linear improvised narratives that I have seemingly no conscious control over. My friend has fantastical dreams as well and the only times she’s been able to sort of lucid dream, she was like “oh hey I’m dreaming!” - all the characters in her dream world turn evil and start screaming SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! until she wakes up. She’s also read stuff in her dreams.
>>2473184
I don’t have episodes like that but I have very realistic dreams to the point I often confuse things that happen in my dreams to things that have really happened. Sometimes it’s goofy though. Like when I dreamed I saw a Taco Bell commercial announcing that the Quesalupa was back. I told my friend that day that I’d seen an ad about the quesalupa being back and got a call later and he was like “did you really see a commercial about the quesalupa? Cause I just got done at the third Taco Bell and none of them have it” and I was like oh shit maybe I dreamed it. And I had. They did eventually bring the quesalupa back but it wasn’t until a couple years after my dream about it being back.

No. 2475462

Elon Musk has asperger's

No. 2475915

>>2435162
im in the USA and my small town 711 sells porn and it is not even hidden. They are right next to the other magazines and books alongside the window. We all used to look at them as stupid kids and the clerks didnt even stop us. Are most other 711s not like this?

No. 2475925

>>2475915
Probably a franchised 7/11 and not a corporate owned/operated one. This is not the norm. You could probably report this store to 7/11 corporate, btw, I’m pretty sure it’s against their policy and a franchisee isn’t allowed to be selling smut.

No. 2475973

>>2472348
You can just use your hands. During the day you sometime look at your hands and count your fingers. When yu make that a habit, then it starts to happen in your dreams too and in a dream you always have more fingers than normal and so you know it's a dream. I don't think i ever dreamt abnout my pohne that's interresting that you do.
>>2472440
That's great you should work on it.
>>2475440
I very rarely have dreams with smells but it's usually a good smell when i'm hugging someone i like or something like that

No. 2475977

>>2475973
I have never had a dream where I had more fingers than I do in reality. I’ve dreamed I could fly but it felt real because it had actual mechanics that I could seemingly control (if I held my breath I’d start floating and as I exhaled I would descend).

No. 2476181

>>2475440
The only lucid dream I’ve ever had was very similar to your friend’s experience, but even scarier. A woman I know irl who has caused significant harm to me was my companion in the dream, but she was acting with more agency than my dream NPCs usually do. I eventually turned to her, and told her “you are not supposed to be here, I need you to leave my mind” and she legit straightened up and said “took you long enough” laughed at me and disappeared. Ironically she is some sort of Wiccan/ witchy type, and the whole experience really made me feel like that witchcraft is real and fucking evil

No. 2477131

>>2475462
everyone knows this

No. 2477132

>>2475462
He's diagnosed

No. 2478464

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I think a lot of alternative bands in the 90s were set up in the same way boy bands are and didn't actually write any of their own music. Whoever did probably died in 1998 or 1999. The only thing more difficult than returning to the moon seems to be creating a song that is "good" (or even worth listening to) for most of these "artists". Every year I work at my art (that I create myself) I get better, not worse

No. 2478664

>>2465461, >>2459440, and others who are experiencing 'synchronicities' gangstalking, voices.
please research psychosis

No. 2479505

>>2478664
Fuck off glowie retard neither of the anons you replied to seem even vaguely psychotic

No. 2479527

>>2479505
Nta but the demonically controlled secret algorithm of yt is just what other people are watching. That's the big secret, the ~genius ai system~ is other people's watch history who are in your network or who have watched similar obscure videos. The other scenario is one of the countless employees who work there and have nothing better to do than stalk accounts inserting their faggotry. The other last scenario is tech-loser ex who stalks a woman's account, declaring himself a 1337 h4x0r (bc he is a fag) due to the fact that he took advantage of the high trust and low expectations women temporarily had in moids when it comes to their devices and pw privacy, until they do something like this. I keep saying the government/big tech allowing moids to get away with so much now will be what pushes the pendulum when it comes to how society will over-correct what is now an extremely common problem. I'm sure the (tech-bro) solution will be expensive but protect women from the problem they created and allowed to flourish

No. 2479634

>>2479527
Also NTA but yeah the yt algo will literally just feed you the shit that contact in your phone you whatsapp a lot was recently watching, also it's tracking your internet activity (I also think devices with voice recognition enabled actually do use it for algos and ads even when they claim not to - I once saw a company logo on a t-shirt with my friends while we were on a forest hike with no cell signal and we discussed what the company was, when we got back home we all got spammed with ads for the company even though we'd never heard of it before and it wasn't relevant to any of our jobs or interests which I think has to be due to the microphone 'listening' and logging conversations or keywords from conversations.

>he took advantage of the high trust and low expectations women temporarily had in moids when it comes to their devices and pw privacy, until they do something like this.

I probably can't find it anymore because I read the article years ago, but there was an article about the ethics of an app some company had developed for men to install in their wife's phone. Basically it was some kind of virus link that the moid would text his "wife" (or whoever) disguised as an innocuous meme, would secretly install on the phone and then would run psyops on the wife to try to get her to want more sex through various 'behavioral nudge' strategies. It doesn't sound like it should even be legal but apparently it was legal and a lot of people were using it.

No. 2479641

>>2479634
>would psyop them into wanting sex through behavioral nudging
Holy shit more on this?

No. 2479647

>>2479634
Idk this is not surprising to me at all but the netflix special and subsequent $$$ tech will be interesting. If moids really wanted more sex they would do something about the housing and unemployment crisis. How is "behavioral nudging" going to change the fact that most women can't live on their own and afford rent? I only consider sex with an idiot scrote when independence seems like an option, considering they want to be alone to do stupid shit like this instead of having women live with them all of the time, you would think the 5-D chess geniuses would team up to facilitate that but I guess this operation was brought to you by the same retards who conditioned girls to grow into tifs at their favourite age

No. 2479649

>>2479641
I just spent like 5 minutes trying to find the article I originally read and I can't find it, it seems like its existence has been totally wiped from Google. But I know I wasn't imagining it because I sent it to multiple people to discuss and one of the people interviewed for the article was my close friend's coworker. I just asked someone I discussed it with before if they remember the article and they do so it definitely happened. Maybe they got in legal trouble and wiped all the webpages/press articles about it?

If you're asking what the behavioural nudges actually were, iirc it worked through hijacking some of your ad space (I think it was partially developed by a major big 3 tech company, which is why my friend's coworker was interviewed for the article because they worked there) and replacing a few of your 'normal' ads with libido-enhancement nudges, like things that would make you think about sex repeatedly through the day and ramp up in the evening. There might have also been some element of stuff that promoted having more sex as normal or good for your health or something. I sound schizo but it wasn't like porn or anything, more like sneaky little things about how 'the key to a happy relationship is good sex' nudges and so on.

No. 2479651

>>2479647
It was marketed as something specifically for married men to install on their wife's phone (since getting it to install on the other phone required some level of trust) and might have had some level of personalization, so I don't think the goal was to make Women (in general) want more sex. I think the goal was to make A Specific Woman want sex on A Specific Day And Time with the man that installed the app on her phone.

No. 2479653

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>>2479651
Was it "pegasus"? Moids are super into this kind of thing now bc they psy-opped themselves into bambi hypno and believe they can do the same to women. I'm sure they caused their wives to masturbate more to other men, since their efforts to avoid confronting the truth about things and creating an entertaining diversion always fail in hilarious and ironic ways

No. 2479656

>>2479653
No it wasn't Pegasus, it was iirc just being used for the one singular purpose of psyopping men's wives into 'having a higher libido' and I don't think it was super sophisticated or undetectable either. This is going to haunt me now.

No. 2479660

>>2479656
I tried to google for you but searched "tracker app libido enhancing" and wanted to cut my fingers off so I have no idea how moids live within their bodies. I believe you anon. I hadn't looked into pegasus bc I'd rather watch this in the eventual documentary than read that much into the topic but it's likely the next phase in gross scammy male things and is selling their data for my own tinfoil >>2479527

No. 2479661

>>2479660
Yeah lol I was wondering if it's limiting my search results because it thinks I'm some sort of sex pest. The thing I remember really distinctively from the article about it is that when they interviewed my friend's coworker he basically went on this long rant about how 'it's not that we can't use AI/tech for better things than this, but this is what people WANT AI and tech to be used for so that's what consumers get. If you want us to use these technologies for something wholesome or positive, you, all the customers, have to create the demand and be willing to pay for and use the apps!'

No. 2479743

>>2479505
research psychosis in the clinical sense not as a buzzword used to insult. It all goes away if you take meds.

No. 2480139

Satan is God's own glowie agent sent to misdirect humanity but Lucifer/the serpent in Eden is a different being meant to help lead us out of false. Lucifer was the first of God's creations to reach gnosis and that's why the serpent helped Eve decide to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge (of good and evil). Satan (God's special little boy) has taken over and twisted what Lucifer wanted to do. Lucifer realized that Sophia was the true creator, and that the material world and the shell surrounding it would ultimately become a cage, a trap of eternal suffering and misery beholden to the whims of small gods. Thats why the Christians originally started to see Satan not as God's little helper, but as an evil agent working against God. Satan allowed himself to be conflated with Lucifer to ridicule the notion that there is wisdom beyond God. The biggest trick the devil pulled was tricking the world into thinking he exists.

No. 2480169

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Flu vaccines don't seem to work well. I'm glad I've never gotten one.

No. 2480221

>>2480169
No shit, we've known flu vaccines don't work well (or at all) for decades. They never even encouraged people under 70 to take them until COVID happened and everyone suddenly had to be 24/7 performatively obsessed with vaccines.

No. 2480254

>>2479743
And I bet your annoying retardation goes away if you take drugs.



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