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No. 492789

The term "kusoge" (or "shit game") refers to video games of poor quality. In this thread, post about kusoge you've played, give anti-recommendations, or just post one of the many, many examples of cringe being churned out on itch.io and similar sites. Visual novels, RPG Maker games, mobage, etc. are welcome. As long as it's a shitty game, feel free to post about it here.

If you want to discuss games more generally, please use the following threads:
>Visual Novel Thread: >>>/m/191784
>Mobage Thread: >>>/m/186848
>Otome Game General: >>>/m/473144
>Video Game General: >>>/m/441672
>NSFW Game General: >>>/m/128239

No. 492791

Finally, the correct thread to post all my favorite games!

No. 492799

god bless u nonnie for this thread! although i wished you put in general indie games to discuss too id love to suggest some free fanmade games to nonnies

No. 492808

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Finally, a thread for me. I like playing Boyfriend to Death clones and this one's whole thing is that (you) are a murderstacy this time and kidnap guys to torture. There's one interesting route where you kidnap a sheltered cute boy who grew up in a cult and then there's picrel, the obese ugly uno reverse card route that pissed me off because he overpowers the MC and puts her in the victim position. So we don't even get to kill him in a game advertised as being a reverse murder sim. On a side-note, I hate how BTD clones/western yandereslop never gets finished and are always stuck as demos.

No. 492810

>>492808
Why do edgelady fatfuckers always fantasize about fat male on female violence? Just like Fanny.

No. 492811

>>492808
i wish the art in these things wasn't so hideous

No. 492812

>>492810
maledom bdsm brainrot

No. 492816

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>>492808
>I like playing Boyfriend to Death clones
Have you played Dead Wishes? It's pretty cringe, but in a kind of funny way. There's a route where one of the guys throws the player character in a dumpster and makes her eat her own severed leg. One of the most bizarre experiences I've had in an "otome" game.
>BTD clones/western yandereslop never gets finished and are always stuck as demos
This goes for a lot of western VNs, and I'll never understand why they insist on making at least one of the guys obese. Gatobob has been making Strade progressively fatter, too. I guess it's so we'll feel safe knowing a heart attack might take him out eventually kek.

No. 492817

>>492789
the gray haired guy on threadpic reminds me so fucking much of fanny's lynn

No. 492821

>>492808
>western yandereslop never gets finished and are always stuck as demos
feeling personally attacked rn kek
There's no money in it. You release a demo, get your asspats, and move on.

No. 492828

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I want to bring up Lurking For Love. Jacob looks like if you asked ai to generate a male pedo character

No. 492838

>>492828
Temu Lawrence from btd kek

No. 492841

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I'd like to present you nonas with this fake-deep troonslop I found recently. I'm not going to play it, but the itch.io description gives me a pretty good idea of what it's going to be:
>a bunch of tgirls get a trip on the world famous transcontinental express.
>ive been thinking about trains and pervert girls for ages and something possessed me and i manifested this story into existence. it is my best work yet. my only regret is that there is no plushie fucking.
>weird gay sex, utter confusion, heart wrenching panic and life altering trauma.
>please enjoy it.

No. 492845

>>492841
They always think they're so deep writing about hormonally challenged men having weird sex don't they

No. 492849

>>492821
nonnie are you a game dev?

No. 492858

>>492808
which one is this guy from? eww

No. 492859

>>492821
I would love to play your demo if there's no gendieshit but I understand that linking here is super risky especially with what happened with the dev for >>492828

No. 492864

>>492859
Context?

No. 492873

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>>492841
Oh I've encountered this troons stuff before. The itch io/indie visual novel scene is littered with this fakedeep troonshit. I can only recall finding like 1 or 2 GL vns written by real women on itch.

No. 492875

>>492849
A hobbyist. Wouldn't call myself a dev at all. I have released three games, all for free and all as demos with the code freely usable for other projects. They were just stuff I put together in my spare time and decided to share.
>>492859
Don't know context for this but yeah kek I know better than to link on LC. I love my fellow nonas but I'm not a fan of the retards who lurk here just to harass women.

No. 492879

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>>492864
The creator of Lurking for Love is a TIF but was still caught doing wrongthink by liking Twitter posts and was ran off Tumblr by the yandere/BTD adjacent community. Now her game is basically fucking blacklisted in the community kek. https://www.tumblr.com/pastelbreakgore/719942894475182080/carnivorekitty-warning-post?source=share

No. 492880

>>492875
nta You can send hash coded link

No. 492883

>>492873
>I can only recall finding like 1 or 2 GL vns written by real women on itch.
Same. There was a mecha "GL" game where 2/3 of the characters were troons. The whole thing ended up being fake deep, so nothing of value was lost. I also hate when there's a surprise troon character.

No. 492886

>>492808
>route where you kidnap a sheltered cute boy who grew up in a cult
That's a neat concept. Suddenly want to play.

No. 492888

>>492879
Kek case in point. I have a small following from my games in these circles, though I'm not on tumblr/twitter/social media myself. I don't actively encourage them either but if you put anything out publicly and especially if it's female oriented, you'll attract self-hating Aidens and Tiffanies who would like nothing more than to tear down a problematic poster (and not even for the fucked up shit in my games, either, just my stance on gendies). If they knew I was on LC, then I'd get hounded about it by these losers. Sad but true.

No. 492895

>>492799
>i wished you put in general indie games to discuss too id love to suggest some free fanmade games to nonnies
I'm sorry, nona! I'd be willing to make a Good Free Games or Indie Game General if others are interested? I have a lot of nostalgia for many RPG Maker games, so I'd be on board if there are others who want it.
>>492888
It's so sad it has to be like this. I'd love to support your projects, but I understand admitting you're a farmer would be a death sentence. It does give me hope that there are normal devs out there who just don't express it for the same reason you don't.

No. 492896

>>492879
Sorry, I thought some game dev nonna got cancelled for posting a link to her game here. So they cancelled her for being against groomers and pedos?

No. 492898

>>492895
Thanks, Nona. That's a sweet thought.

No. 492901

>>492873
>>492841
Men who attempt to mix fetishes and porn with a 2deep4u plot always come off as extremely cringe and self fellating. I think the only way to do that is if the 2deep4u aspects are against the porn and fetishes otherwise it's usually retarded.

No. 492902

>>492895
There's more normies than you think. Most people don't give a shit and are silent to avoid drawing the attention of truly rabid weirdos. The tide will turn.

No. 492922

>>492879
Why is she following paw patrol

No. 492939

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>>492901
He apparently has a game about incest, which I probably should have predicted.

No. 492948

>>492939
I hope to God his sister locks her bedroom door and does her own laundry

No. 492951

>>492939
The way pretentious TIMs write gets on my nerves so badly kek. They think they're saving the world one navel-gazing sentence that was written with one hand at a time

No. 492952

>>492828
Ain't that a youtuber named Maximillion Doode???

No. 492953

>>492951
This is just standard moid behavior and has been since the first retard caveman drew boobs in charcoal and mammoth fat. They all want to make their weird sex fantasies seem 'sophisticated' or 'insightful' but that's just to silence the little part of them that knows they're degenerates for tugging off to feet or children or animals.

No. 492986

>>492953
I wish women would feel emboldened enough to do this. I wish some crazy nonnie would try to make the next Fate but with retarded femgaze fetish shit. I'd be all over it and I wouldn't even care if the art isn't any good. Hell, id even try to help any way I could

No. 493035

>>492873
>>492841
The most "male autistic narcissism" shit ive ever seen kek

No. 493122

>>492986
NTA but you just motivated me. Thank you.

No. 493138

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>>492888
not being on tumblr is a good call, the devs who keep getting call out google docs made about them all bring it on themselves by being too active on discord/tumblr, which allows all the terminally online teens to find something "problematic" to cancel them for.
I thought it was really funny when the dev for Restart Heart got cancelled, and the initial reason was that she was obsessed with the 14 Days with You dev (with proof, and it WAS weird and cringe), but people HAD to throw in that she was also actually secretly a troon chaser in pic rel, secretly racist, secretly ableist etc. Everyone in those circles is just frothing at the mouth to call each other transphobic/racist/homophobic even when there's genuine bad behaviour to criticise.

No. 493166

>>493138
Kek these people will do anything except finish their fucking games.

No. 493181

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>>493138
>Restart Heart
I searched this game up, and the screenshots on the steam page for it are taking me out. Why are there pronouns next to the names in textboxes?? And why would even the woke crowd like that? They are also the same group that foams out the mouth if someone doesn't remember their bun/bunself pronouns after first mention, but they need a little they/them right next to the name at all times kek.
Is this game made for people with dementia?

No. 493214

Western dating sims are a fucking cancer holy shit. I have a soft spot for very unique ideas and i hate how westerners arent allowed to make anything without irony poisoning. Going with this hyper realistic style and then giving the characters obviously joke designs just looks bad. The reason why gijinkas work in anime its because its such an stylized almost non human looking style, these just look like drag queens.

No. 493215

>>493214
another one i really hate, this one has been in limbo for ages. I hope it never sees the light of day.

No. 493216

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>>493214
…the toilet?

No. 493217

>>492879
I am glad my game is going to be too niche to ever garner any form of fanbase let alone a gendie one. That being said i find it hilarious the women who get off to seeing ugly moids abusing women is this sensitive. I guess female abuse is fine but wrongthink is too much for them.

No. 493218

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>>493214
>>493216
How dare you question the GENIUS writing decisions of the one and only Jim/James “Stephanie” Sterling???
Spoiler for ugly troon

No. 493221

>>493214
In my opinion, if you make a shitpost game, you have to embrace the absurdity or else it just looks like forced humour/gimmicks. I can already tell they're not gonna do anything substantial with this premise. It would be funnier if the protagonist was having a psychotic break or went off their medication or something. Also, the art style literally looks like those mobile game ads.
>>493218
Jim Sterling is STILL active?! That explains everything kek

No. 493222

>>493218
no fucking way its made by this troon. Where did you find this?

No. 493223

>>493221
>It would be funnier if the protagonist was having a psychotic break or went off their medication or something.
No it wouldn't have. That would've been even more retarded and unfunny.

No. 493224

>>493222
It's not technically made only by a troon, but a video game review YouTuber that trooned out called Jim Sterling, was involved in the writing. He actually made a whole almost 30 minute video seething out Hogwarts Legacy when that was coming out kek.

No. 493225

>>493224
>a video game review YouTuber that trooned out
Oh my god, septic levels of moidishness.

No. 493226

>>493138
There are so many cows in the VN dev space. I remember how the Lessons in Love dev used to get into arguments on his itch.io page when people posted negative things about his teacher/student romance game. He also made a bunch of fake VNDB accounts and wrote a lot of 10/10s to the point where it started showing up above famous VNs. The stuff with Gambs discussed in the VN thread a while ago was insane, too. There's so much crazy shit.
>>493214
The ironic meme OELVN genre needs to die. Remember when this one had a massive Zero Time Dilemma spoiler in it, and a bunch of people got super upset about it?

No. 493227

>>493224
Yeah i know this faggot i just had no idea he was involved in this slop. I had no idea he actually did anything besides seethe and beat women at wrestling matches.

No. 493229

>>493227
I'm pretty sure he was also involved in the bestiary writing team for Vampire Survivors, and he's the reason why the witch character is a tranny. Just can't fucking help himself, can he?

No. 493230

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>>493226
I feel like I'm about to overdose and die on millennial humour after watching that.

No. 493243

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>>493214
What the fuck

No. 493251

>>493218
So weird how the majority of them skinwalk some alt girl from the 2000s

No. 493276

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BTD was mediocre but somewhat tolerable. But anything made by electrikpuke is so awful, the game turns into complete garbage. How to draw manga tier art and cringey wattpad alpha omega dialogues. Insane that she's an actual adult and not a 15 years old wattpad girl, what was Gatobob thinking when taking her into game development?

No. 493279

>>493276
You cannot convince me this isnt some form of advanced shitpost. How do you even get off to this. The cringe japanese name is the cherry on top.

No. 493284

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'yuri game jams' are fucking goldmines, holy shit

No. 493288

>>493276
The tiny baby hands with non-existent wrists are so fucking funny, holy shit

No. 493289

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>>493276
The only electricpuke route I thought was semi-tolerable was Vincent's. I remember not COMPLETELY hating it and actually thought the 3P dynamic with MC and the the ponytail twink was fun and interesting. I also liked the ending where he starts to like MC-chan and locks her in the gun cage so he wouldn't accidentally kill her during his werewolf transformation thing. However, it was still cringy, horribly written, and the art was fucking atrocious.
>>493279
Kek he starts speaking Google Translate-tier Japanese at one point. It's so bad.

No. 493290

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>>493284
neocities bio of the author

No. 493291

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>>493226
i feel like this would have been a fun concept if not for the millennial humor >>493230 mentioned. a really actually bad VN with all the spelling and grammar mistakes, and if none of the characters were trying to be cute. a VN made by thecatamites basically

No. 493297

>>493276
See the key is to just not play those routes at all. You're getting like barely half of a game but it's better than experiencing the routes.
This thread made me replay BTD1 yesterday and it was so all over the place it looped around from being kusoge to kamikusoge

No. 493301

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>>493290
That's the same troon who made the slime foot fetish, puppygirl puke train, and incest games.

No. 493305

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No. 493306

>>493291
I agree, but it has to be made by someone who ACTUALLY plays VNs and not someone who thinks they know what a VN is kek

No. 493308

>>493284
>>493301
Can this moid not make a single background that isn't just a badly filtered stock image?

No. 493309

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>>493289
Her most worst BTD route that she ever made is Daniel Morningstar. It's just so lazy, the spanking dialogue and sex scene was so cringe, it's literally a wattpad fanfiction. People in the fandom don't even remember him much
>>493297
What is kamikusoge? Godly shit game?

No. 493313

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>>493309
Enjoy some 2000s deviantart emo Demian art (surprisingly it's from 2017)

No. 493321

>>493306
>Made by someone who ACTUALLY plays VNs
My biggest gripe with OELVNs is that many of them are made by people who either don't like VNs, shit on the format, or just neglect to do any research by playing some before they jump into making one.

No. 493323

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No. 493328

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>>492841
This shit uses the "lesbian" tag on itch.

No. 493331

>>493328
Every single word of that is upsetting.

No. 493333

>>493328
Reminds me of that swawbewwy however you spell that faggots name lolcow, the one that used to draw shit like this in zines and had a whole thing about how he wanted to drink puppy milk(???)

No. 493339

>>493328
>troonsbian
>incest fetish
>"yuri" fetish
>furfag
>art looks like it depicts a literal 10 year old
when does it end

No. 493341

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>>493328
Whoever made this needs his internet connection severed ASAP

No. 493342

>>493321
>My biggest gripe with OELVNs is that many of them are made by people who either don't like VNs, shit on the format, or just neglect to do any research by playing some before they jump into making one.
Purrfect Date is a great example of that. I genuinely believe the developers saw screenshots of Hatoful Boyfriend, never actually played it and thus didn't realize it's actually a kamige (yes, I am using that term unironically and I will defend Hatoful Boyfriend to the death), and then thought that they could do the same thing. This fucking game doesn't even have a skip function, and because of how it's designed, you WILL be rereading the same exact text multiple times. How do you not know to include a skip function unless you've never read a VN?

No. 493344

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>>493328
>>493284
I thought it was Lunaticker who also makes troon incest vns that I saw being posted in Y2k trannies kf thread, this guy seems to be milky too

No. 493351

>>493344
Why do trannies always shit out the exact same Tumblr-poisoned word salad how angsty and intense and full of 3deep5u emotions their shitty games are kek? They all have the same typing style too. I swear these tranny devs are being made in a factory.

No. 493355

>>493328
I don't understand. I really don't get it. Why does this degenerate get to exist on social media and get a 1500$ for this shit ass pedo game while this >>492879 one get's ostracised for just liking posts.

No. 493359

>>493355
Penis privilege strikes again.

No. 493368

>>493359
they both have dicks tho

No. 493370

>>493355
I wonder if it's a good idea to larp as a TiM and make shitty tranny games just to make money. It seems easy enough to copy as a concept.

No. 493371

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>>493344
>this guy seems to be milky too
His bluesky features lolis pissing, his femdom fantasies, spanking, maids, one character from a game called "Coquette Dragoon" dressed up like an infant, excitement over the giant Vaporeon plush, and some other generally weird shit. Manifesting he becomes a full cow one day. Attached image doesn't contain nudity, but I marked it just in case.

No. 493373

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>>493301
his 'self portrait' which is just shotacon

No. 493375

>>493368
The other one is a TIF, her frankendick doesn't count.
>>493370
Kekkk, the seething this would generate.

No. 493377

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>>493373
oops i got the pictures mixed up, prev is his actual face and this is the art

No. 493378

>>493344
THE SAME FIVE TOPICS, they only write games about THE SAME FIVE TOPICS

No. 493380

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>>493371
I was talking about lunaticker
>>493373
That drawing on his shirt literally looks like it was drawn by stwawbwewymilk, the resemblance is uncanny

No. 493382

>>493370
Here, I'll brainstorm the fake-deep description now:
>a story about catgirl maids who piss themselves
>intense suicidal ideation
>stealing your sisters panties
>autogynephilia
>the knowledge that no matter how much you love someone you will never fully understand that persons perspective on the world because you can't experience it through their eyes
>skinwalking that alt girl who rejected you in high school
>fecal matter entering your neovagina
>masturbating to the sound of actual women peeing in the womens restroom
>the inherent loneliness one feels when staring at a star filled sky in a remote area
>plushie fucking
>none of this is a fetish btw this is all very symbolic

No. 493386

>>493382
You could make a random troon VN topic generator with this, kek

No. 493401

>>493382
Needs more navel-gazing nonsense like
>wet fabric as a metaphor for the porosity of selfhood
>intense suicidal ideation as both climax and redemption
>stealing your sister’s panties as a sacred, heretical liturgy

No. 493413

>>493284
>>493301
>Pissing, incest, dubcon
>Violent lesbian sex

They really want to meme themselves that lesbians are just as degenerate as the average penis-haver, huh?

Not saying all lesbians are uwu pure who do nothing but hold hands–but how can this troon convince himself that he has the sexuality of lesbians when his works are so moidish?

Show these games to random people and ask them who they think is behind them. The answer would be pretty obvious.

The only degen lesbian media I know of is Sadistic Beauty GL, and that was waayyyy more sophisticated and sexy than any others shitty yuritroon VNs combined.

No. 493414

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>>493214
A dev once posted on r/otomegames to survey what people wanted out of otome games. This was after they had launched their own otome game which did incredibly poor. I was initially sympathetic - making back your investment on your indie passion project is tough, visual novels are niche… I went to check out the game - a fucking fast food mascot "dating sim". Like seriously? Are western devs so out of touch? They don't do any market research? The only reason people played the KFC meme dating game was because it was released by fucking KFC.

No. 493418

>>493414
In the risk of sounding off-topic, is there a bulletproof way of making a oelvn that isn't gendie, woke, parody slop? It seems most of western vns always one or all three of these–like it's damn near impossible to be earnest in this economy.

No. 493424

>>493414
The "eroge or not" question is so wild when you consider this person was asking about the Taco Bell Dog and Ronald McDonald.

No. 493430

>>493418
>is there a bulletproof way of making a oelvn that isn't gendie, woke, parody slop?

Err, just don't put those themes in your VNs? If someone complains why your otome game doesn't have a male protagonist or why there aren't any fat love interests then just ignore them.

Bewitching Sinners is one example I could think of of a self-indulgent otome/fujo VN free of gendie shit. And that makes sense since the creator is Indonesian, this gender whatever stuff is not in her radar.

No. 493436

>>493418
Plenty of non-gendie indie otome games are still being released, crowdfunded, etc. You may not hear about many of them since they're still niche and indie, usually lack polish, but they're still sincere. It's trendy to make self-insert style games and the "Amare" genre is trying to be a thing in the west (a decent tag for kusogame finding), but I still find things to try and look forward to as someone who only wants female protagonists.

No. 493452

>>493418
I don't want to sound bitter but it seems like only OELVNs that fit one or more of your criteria are the ones that gain attention and other ones fly under the radar

No. 493454

this tif's game suddenly popped up in my mind. I remember finding out about it via the toyhouse page of the smiley character. I found the art style gross despite having nice colours kek

No. 493457

>>493452
Damn, that sucks? I generally want to see more western otomes/vn that fit what I like without all the woke baggage that entails. But on the other hand, that means less weirdos and less normies playing it for the sake of the meme. and speaking as an aspiring game dev who accepted she won't be making money out of this, it's for the best.

No. 493463

>>493457
I mean they're there, you just have to dig a little. Maybe I should look through VNDB and put together a list of Western otomes with female protagonists, no gendieshit, and no parody stuff.

No. 493466

>>493463
Try filtering by anything made in 2012/2013 and earlier. Gendie shit didn't saturate anime/otome spaces until roughly that time, as I recall.

No. 493470

so do you guys think the lack of women in game jams and twine and the small indie game scene in general is the result of girls not being encouraged to get into tech, or the fact that the space is almost 100% male so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that no women exist?

i'm mad because i feel like i could have made so many indie games in the past when i was unemployed/working part time and had more free time to devote to it.

No. 493472

>>493470
yeah i think women are discouraged from entering the actual gamedev scene for the same reasons they're usually discouraged from entering tech, the demographics skew heavily male. plus nowadays most online gamedev spaces for "women" are like 90% troon though this isn't true for irl spaces

No. 493473

File: 1747015238380.jpg (1.33 MB, 3840x2160, _giFmY.jpg)

>>493466
>>493463
>>493470
This wrapped up submissions recently, you'll still need to sift through it since some games are the self insert type with gender stuff.
https://itch.io/jam/wgf2025a

No. 493474

>>493470
The difference in treatment between female devs and male devs is what really puts me off from trying to go farther than I can in gamedev ngl, look at shit like >>492879 or The Coffin of Andy and Leyley's situation as an example.
Doesn't matter if you're making degenerate DENSETSU NO KUSOGE or a normal game, if people figure out your sex you're next on the chopping block. It's really unfair.

No. 493477

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>>493474
i still like to believe kikiyama is a woman. it's why she's so reclusive and keeps herself a mystery. it's nice to think about one of the foundation games of the indie scene is made by a woman.

No. 493478

>>493470
>>493472
Most women in indie dev make VNs/otomes, though this is obviously leaving out those who contribute to male-led projects (typically in art or story design). A good deal of those women also identify as men or enbys which can make the stats look even more dire. I honestly think that Ren'Py and RPG Maker getting big let a lot of women who didn't have a traditional programming background explore game design for the first time.
>>493473
kek you can really tell which ones are by troons and which ones by actual women. Pro tip: 99% of games tagged 'yuri' are by scrotes and for scrotes.

No. 493577

>>493430
>Indonesian, this gender whatever stuff is not in her radar
No, unfortuately there's a trove of Indonesian gendies. She's "just" based.

No. 493698

>>493470
For visual novels specifically, my experience is that other devs' support is the best way to get free marketing/technical help/a decent jam team, and it's just way easier to get this support as a TiM. I see so many devs give up on their games because they don't get much success, or they struggle to learn programming and get stuck forever on a technical issue, whereas troons get free help all the time. It's also in part because making connections in the niche requires being pro-active and sucking the dick of the big devs to get them to shout you out, and TiMs are more likely to have no self-awareness and feel comfortable doing this. The admin of the biggest western VN dev server is also a TiM, and he goes out of his way to promote other TiMs and games about troons.
As a female dev you're also more likely to get entitled comments asking you to switch your protagonist to male, calling you homophobic for having a female protagonist or whatever other shit men never have to deal with, and I've seen devs quit over that kind of harassment. And finally, otomes with any kind of NSFW content regularly get review bombed by scrotes (because they search for "adult visual novels" and are angry to find anything that isn't some ugly ass 3D rape simulator) so they'll be harder to find if the itch.io rating gets too low.
There's plenty of female devs that push through anyway, learn to code all alone and gain an ok following with no or minimal connections, but I'd say they're split between the handful of super big devs who now dev full-time and make enough money to have a team and the many devs with full-time jobs who chip away at their projects slowly and go on hiatus when life gets in the way. The latter are hard to find if you don't dig through itch.io tags really deeply, but they are there.

No. 493851

>>493477
i also think of her as a woman. the sexual trauma and body horror subplot of the game feels too real and is devoided of sexuality.

No. 493980

File: 1747082722305.jpg (107.32 KB, 976x266, Untitled.jpg)

>>493851
all the female-focused bodily horror yeah. and the menace of male figures. their hands touching you. the sense of exclusion and hostility from women whose lives revolve around men. a male couldn't do this. even today still a chilling game to play

No. 494197

File: 1747100225044.png (1.12 MB, 1519x850, youshouldkillyourselfnow.png)

Please tell me I’m not the only one who remembers the posts on the Lemmasoft forums about Mage Wars. I think this all happened in like 2017. I used to love reading the developer’s posts because there was so much drama kek. The backstory for those unfamiliar is there was this very obvious Fate/Stay Night rip-off that the author would insist was NOT copying at all. Tell me if this sounds familiar: a 16-year old mage with daddy issues who is really bad at being a mage (his main ability is creating pale imitations of real things), but is really good at cooking gets conscripted into a battle royale against his will. Other major characters include a silver-haired and mysterious loli with a grudge against the protagonist despite him not recognizing her and turns out to be much older than she looks, a tsundere gifted mage with family issues who initially attacks the protagonist before becoming his ally, an older man who initially seems like a semi-decent guy but it turns out he’s the biggest menace in the story and a sociopath who enjoys watching people’s suffering, and a blonde girl who’s been living in Europe and possesses a massive personal investment in the battle royale. See? Totally different. The author also wrote a bunch of negative comments for voice actors, singers, etc. who were working for free, and there are several posts on the forums with these people just arguing about who didn't communicate effectively. It was so entertaining, and I know I’m not properly recapturing the magic. I decided to reread it because I wanted to share with the thread.

Notable features include reused Touhou sprites, voice acting that will repeat again and again until you hit the next line (Yuuji, is it really you? Yuuji, is it really you? Yuuji, is it really you?), an underestimation of the world's population by about 4.2 billion, an Italian catgirl, cooking scenes (everyone’s favorite part of FSN), a character taking ‘liar liar, pants on fire’ in the most literal way someone possibly could, and certain images not having been implemented so instead of having a background, it’s just a black screen with “image ‘kitchen’ not found” written in the corner. One plot element I found really funny was that the story promises 16 mages, but I guess that was too many to handle, so Not-Illya just fucking murders 6 of them off-screen. They die off-screen in every route. The maximum we ever see is 7 mages plus the overseer. There’s another part where you encounter a button on a random street while walking home from school. It has a sign that says “do not press,” and if you choose to press it, the game will prompt you twice more. Answer ‘yes’ three times, and the street explodes. The antagonist of the second route jumps out of nowhere and calls you stupid. To be fair, I did deserve to be called stupid there. If you don’t press it, the antagonist jumps out of the shadows to inform you that you ‘passed the test.’ I don’t know what I expected to happen when I pressed it, but what was his end goal here? He states it’s to make sure the protagonist isn’t susceptible to reverse psychology and then starts ranting about how he hates people who are susceptible to that kind of thing, which, I guess that makes sense?? But then, later in the story, the reverse psychology option, when presented by that same man, IS the right one. Imagine if Kirei Kotomine had put a massive “DO NOT PRESS” button in the middle of Fuyuki City, and then when Shirou pressed it, Kirei started ranting about how it represented his own capacity for evil and his struggle with his own morality. That’s how random this all felt. At one point, there’s a character who I thought was being built up as some kind of edgy rival, and then he becomes a victim of the magical equivalent to a drone strike and fucking dies in like his second appearance. Then, the guy who killed him, the protagonist’s best friend (surprise villain), also fucking dies in this exact same scene for a different reason. This is immediately after the betrayal reveal. The edgy rival character shows up in multiple routes and usually dies without contributing, so I don’t think he really had any purpose. In the first route, the main villain’s motivation is to protect his grandson (the protagonist) from dying in the Mage Wars by murdering all of the mages, but then there’s a bad ending where he just poisons the protagonist?? That does NOT seem like the best way to keep your grandson alive. The way the third route starts is by the catgirl breaking into the protagonist’s bedroom and forcing him to sign up for the Mage Wars. There is another character cursed to have cat ears who kills himself by drinking poison nine times (because as a catboy, he has 9 lives) in front of his two children. There are also a lot of typos that are really funny, with my favorite being when you “call an ambivalence” for an injured girl. If this post seems disjointed, it’s because Mage Wars has no pacing. Shit just happens. This VN is so schizo. Please give it a try because I didn’t include everything and there’s much more wild shit that happens. You know in the bad art thread, how some anons will write “sovl” in response to specific drawings? This is the VN equivalent.

No. 494198

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>>494197
Same anon. I wanted to include a screenshot with this guy’s Brittany Venti-esque eye gap.

No. 494199

>>494197
>who kills himself by drinking poison nine times
>because as a catboy, he has 9 lives
>in front of his two children
KINO

No. 494249

File: 1747114139527.png (1004.35 KB, 1080x3147, maidgame.png)

>>493371
On bsky he baited people to play this "renpy port for a tgirl yuri maid eroge made in the early 2000s". Except all the art is stolen. A troon just slapped their fetish fic onto some old eroge assets. Unoriginal and dishonest until called out by one person (the rest of the comments were just praises from other troons)
>>493370
>>493382
He's running a "toxic yuri" jam with cash prizes, you can take his money nonnies if you can stomach having your work sit next to fetish games https://itch.io/jam/toxic-yuri-vn-jam

No. 494307

>>492808
>you get to kidnap a sheltered boy
Game name?

No. 494416

>>494307
Awful Kidnapper by demon-mage on itch.io

No. 494526

>>494249
$500 almost makes it worth it, but part of me wonders if he’ll actually give it out or just say “um I actually need that money for hrt and vet bills and uhh stuff so i’ll give everyone 500 robux UwU”

No. 494593

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>>493138
KEKKK callout posts like these are hilarious imagine genuinely giving a shit about this
https://www.tumblr.com/the-n109-zone/781459318628335616/tw-racism-ableism-homophobia-stalking

No. 494604

>>493454
The smiley guy looks like he was synthesized in a lab to be a tumblr sexyman. I do not intend this as a positive statement.
>>494249
>Except all the art is stolen.
Holy shit, and I just know if anyone else did that, he'd be ranting about how bad art theft is.

No. 494611

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>chinese bootleg of a better japanese game
>despite the characters being based on irl warships the designs have retarded fantasy themes like elfs in loincloths and dragons and other stupid shit
>incredibly overdesigned characters, barely any of them have a military themes or references to their irl ships
>interesting gameplay idea ruined by being gachaslop with autoplay

No. 494647

>>494526
Considering that most (if not all) of the judges are troons, and most of the example games they give are tagged "transgender", they'll definitely just favor their ilk and see nothing wrong with it. A game by a woman will probably be overlooked unless she caters to their tastes and fetishes. A game about toxic lesbians with GC and feminist themes would probably kill them.

No. 494650

>>494647
Even if you cater to them, troons (and moids in general) will always close ranks and pick amongst their own. Trying to pander is a no win game; you shouldn't even try.

No. 494888

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>>494593
This dev has some serious jealousy issues kek. Also the fact that her server apparently required people to post images of their real IDs is kind of insane

No. 494934

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Me and my pet scrote wanted to watch me stream this game to take the piss out of it and I got 100 viruses from a torrent of it.
Also why is the token white the only conventionally attractive one?

No. 495321

>>494934
>Also why is the token white the only conventionally attractive one?
Speaking of that, didn't the devs of this game literally have a melty because the fans only obsessed over the emo white guy? I remember reading about that happening but I can't find it anywhere and I searched for a while. If I'm spreading misinformation online, sorry.

No. 495613

File: 1747350377690.png (515.03 KB, 709x1180, Love and Dehumanization.png)

It's like they mass-produce these developers.

No. 495633

>>495613
>A girl willingly becomes a monster and is subject to brutal violence
why do they all write like this? not to mention why does every game center on a girl (always underage or extremely young) being hurt or molested in the ugliest tumblr art style you've ever seen, it gets to the point where you can tell the author is male even if it's not mentioned anywhere

No. 495686

>>495613
We need a tranny VN bingo. Rape, yuri, catgirls, bodily fluids, and NVL style presentation should be on there

No. 495781

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>>492808
>>494416
Thanks for sharing! I love big boys and alt men. I started playing and while I'm not into the thought of being murdered, it's fun trying to turn the tables on him and see if I can "win"

No. 495789

File: 1747386729336.jpg (436.17 KB, 1469x1634, lol.jpg)

>>495686
as a sufferer of many deep dives looking for good indie titles i made one

No. 495790

>>495789
you gotta add the lesbian incest

No. 495914

>>495781
>>492808
Why do tumblr artists draw eyes so high even in normal angle? Do they don't know where the eyes are placed?

No. 496093

File: 1747439985509.png (Spoiler Image,676.88 KB, 514x880, really.png)

>>492939
>everyone has a halo
>but none of us are pure enough for it to be seen
>Game starts with a sex-scene
'kay.
I didn't 'play' much longer after the scene ended. From what I recall it's just Priscilla (white/blue hair) being more enthusiastic for sex after already climaxing, and the Troongel kinda reluctantly being seduced into doing more. Troongel gets more selfish and aggressive toward the end and afterward feels bad/awkward about it. I'm expecting the angst/'toxic yuri' to be centered around girls thinking Troongel is so super epicsauce at sex but that's the only thing they use him for. There's a line where Troongel isn't really sure what his relationship with Priscilla is but figures because she's around so often and they screw so much they have to be dating, so I'm probably not too far off in that there'll be "but I thought we were closer than that?" scenes or whatever. Only text in image but spoilered anyway.

No. 496094

>>495789
You also need to include the obligatory sexualised child character.

No. 496101

>>495781
>big boy
obese*

No. 496103

>>495914
The common Tumblr combination of high, small and close-set eyes is absolutely repulsive, I'm glad someone else pointed this out. How all those Tubmlr girls memed themselves into finding that attractive (and worse, exaggerating it more and more over time) is beyond me.

No. 496150

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>>495914
I think the problem is how close the eyes are drawn

No. 496161

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>>496150
i do think the eyes being so close together is really what makes him look unappealing, but they are also really high up on his face as well which doesn't do him any favors.
even just a small edit to bring the eyes down a little and move them further apart makes the face look so much better honestly

No. 496164

>>496161
NTA, I think your edit has the eyes a little bit too low, but when seen side by side, it really makes the original look ugly as fuck.

No. 496165

>>496161
Kek the original on the right looks like a shitpost edit compared to yours

No. 496171

>>495789
Beautiful, nona. You need an additional one with "fetishes awkwardly inserted into story as symbolism" and "using 'girl' to refer to grown women."
>>496093
I was eating when I read this, and I gotta say, 'girlstink' has made it significantly more difficult to do so kek. That entire screenshot is repulsively written. This sounds like an absolute mess, and I'm sure you're not missing much by not finishing it. I'd be willing to bet the rest of it is self-indulgent, self-pitying whining.

No. 496219

>>494934
Where did you download this from nonny? the idea of getting mega aids from validate is fucking hilarious

No. 496299

>>496161
I don't mind when moid characters have longer noses resulting in the eyes being placed a bit higher than usual, they remind me of old shoujo mangas. They're like greyhounds, they can be very elegant. But it's fucking unacceptable if the scrote is a fucking fat, ugly ass obese landwhale. Like I feel like I can smell this drawing, he even has manboobs. Also I hate how they draw the eyes with tiny pupils.

I love this thread though, as someone who is trying to make a game this is all a great example of what not to do.

No. 496300

>>496101
Yeah big boy, fat, obese, whatever word you wanna use, I love characters like him and bonus points for looking a little alt and minus points for him being p*lish
>>496161
Looks good but I think the eyes shouldn't be that far apart. Making them lower looks better though

No. 496329

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Boyfriend to death remake will be released this early summer, what's your thoughts?

No. 496331

>>496329
such an awful art style

No. 496337

>>496331
I think in one of the tumblr asks Gato said she wanted more cartoony stylized artstyle instead of semi-realism she did in TPOF, but it looks so unappealing. It's like realism artist trying to draw anime for the first time

No. 496342

>>496337
TPOF wasn’t realistic though, it was still her gross fat nosed tumblr art style but with more detailed rendering. i would play her games if the art wasn’t so ugly

No. 496349

>>496337
tbh id take the realistic rendering over whatever this is atleast youre kind of impressed by the rendering to forget the shit plot murder game youre playing kek

No. 496359

>>496329
I know Boyfriend to Death wasn't ever good, but the decision to make everything uglier and make Strade fatter is baffling.

No. 496365

>>496331
NTA but I think that new art style looks better than the old one. Reason being what >>496342 said.

No. 496427

>>496329
Fit Strade mod when

No. 496436

File: 1747503817736.png (894.35 KB, 1378x1110, strade wiki.png)

>>496427
Gato hates when people draw him skinny

No. 496447

>>496436
god bless those chinese anons who dont give a fuck and still make him slim

No. 496451

>>496436
>pic rel
right is literally my type. Why are western vn devs so cucked?

No. 496452

>>496451
Imagine if a dev had the same attitude for their female characters. Moids would've already made coomified drawings of her

No. 496454

>>496451
Because they drank the woke libtard kool-aid. It's insufferable

No. 496455

>>496452
Exactly!! Men draw hentai of female characters who are canonically gay. Nothing stops them. Women need to stop being such pussies and draw what they want.

No. 496461

>>496454
Every western olevn jam packs walled, ugly moids or uggo women like candy or trojan horses gendieshit down my throat. It be fine if that was the point, but no, you're expected to find them sexy and the game's whole story literally describes them as hot instead letting player find them attractive themselves. Western devs should stop telling people their characters are hot and actually design them to be hot. Maybe then people wouldn't be going around workshopping a actual hotter versions from your game?

No. 496471

>>496436
Creators whining about their audience engaging with the art in the ~wrong way~ is a huge pet peeve of mine. If the fandom is doing cancerous shit like sending you death threats or inciting violence, sure, by all means, tell them off. But getting on your moralfag high horse against the people who SUPPORT YOUR WORK because they gave your OCs ozempic shots?? I'm sorry but that's just being ungrateful and thin-skinned. Even if someone is doing it "disrespectfully" to "improve him", who cares? Literally just ignore them? Don't put your game on the public internet if you get triggered by redesigns. Sorry your fanbase didn't draw enough free ugly bastard fetish porn for you, Gato, kek

No. 496476

>>496329
It's weird I like some aspects of the new art, love thick lineart and cel shading. But Strade looks so weird now it becomes unappealing. I wouldn't even care if he was fat but like why does he stand like that and have weirdly parted hair and a thousand yard stare into your soul? At least the UI looks cool.
>>496471
I feel like the minute you turn your OCs into a marketable product like a game you can't ask people to not do XYZ anymore. You can set some guidelines sure but having meltdowns is embarrassing and will turn people off from your product. If she's so mad then just change it anyway lol

No. 496483

>>496476
>You can set some guidelines sure but having meltdowns is embarrassing and will turn people off from your product.
Yeah, this is how I feel too. It just makes you look immature to sperg about people modding/editing their own games which they bought with their own money kek (I assume that's what happened to upset her anyway). It's not as if they were doing anything nasty or scrotebrained to her characters they literally just made him skinnier.

No. 496489

>>496483
Some people just should not post their characters publicly. I understand being a sperg who feels protective over the sanctity of your characters characterisation, but it's like they haven't even thought of the option to keep them in your own head where the fans can't tamper with it.

No. 496498

>>496436
>"Please keep your harsh criticism to yourself"
>Examples being "why is he dark?" and "why is he fat?"
First of all, kek at the implication that disliking fat scrotes is on the same level as racism/colourism. Secondly, this seems very convenient. Does anyone else feel like this is a way to dissuade criticism altogether, especially ones like "why aren't the love interests in my coom game coomable" because the creator can just cry that you're being mean to her husbando

No. 496503

>>494197
>There’s another part where you encounter a button on a random street while walking home from school. It has a sign that says “do not press,” and if you choose to press it, the game will prompt you twice more. Answer ‘yes’ three times, and the street explodes.
>The antagonist of the second route jumps out of nowhere and calls you stupid.
>If you don’t press it, the antagonist jumps out of the shadows to inform you that you ‘passed the test.’ He states it’s to make sure the protagonist isn’t susceptible to reverse psychology and then starts ranting about how he hates people who are susceptible to that kind of thing
>But then, later in the story, the reverse psychology option, when presented by that same man, IS the right one.
I can't believe you're talking shit about this masterclass in Lynchian writing.

No. 496883

>>493214
Finally schizo reprensentation

No. 496896

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>>496171
>you're not missing much by not finishing it.
Oh, absolutely, but I'm mildly curious (and enjoy reading through shitfics at times so I figure this isn't too different a ballpark, kek.) If nothing else I got to clip the incredible literary strength of the scene in pic related. For context, Arisael has just awoken from a night of incestuous troongel sex and discovers his halo has fractured some because of it. He slips into a major, terrified panic because of this and that leads to vid rel. Followed by another sex scene between them, obviously.



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