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>>75722/samefag
>>75719I actually liked it a lot more than I was expecting, but I think it was mixed poorly similar to Vampire
No. 75731
>>75726he seems to be doing that shouting to the mic thing u see people bashing other idols for (ex: jennie)
to answer your question: no
No. 75732
>>75726no sm rapper could except
maybe sehun in china since he has a massive fanbase of braindead consoomers. no one takes sm's rappers seriously and for good reason: every single one of them is shit. he could try to milk his existing fans dry and social climb in japan but it wouldn't get him very far.
No. 75735
>>75681Ofc they are not enlisting together. That would be the dumbest business decision ever, specially now that BH is going public. You don't send your cashcows to hiatus for over a year kek They dont give two shits about the family image, it's mostly fans projecting since they're not even close behind cameras, there's maybe 2 or 3 genuine friendships among them but thats it.
Besides, probably not their last album before Jin enlists either, since 91 liners like Suho havent enlisted so far and people thought they were due last year. It seems like they have until the day they turn 29 and not until their 28th birthday as people were interpreting before.
No. 75737
>>75735But won’t he be 29 by next December? He’s 28 now.
Also I think it would be a smart move actually cause they can take a break all together this way and when they all come back the company will market their comeback as an epic one. The fans will try their best to make sure that they’ll get good numbers, for the first album at least, just because “haters” will be egging them on for over a year. I’m sure they can release unseen footage in the meantime and sell it in dvds, plus solo projects they will have already worked on like those mixtapes that their fans keep asking for…
No. 75738
>>75737It's by regular international age and he was born in Dec 92.
The company would struggle for over a year and there's no guarantee the hype would still be there after that to make up for the losses. Some other group would probably fill the void. Plus, they would piss off the soon to be shareholders who only care abt dividends.
No. 75740
>>75738I see, I’m confused about the age thing always.
It would be risky to send them around the same time, that’s for sure, but I could see it working out and receiving positive press, even in the west. They’re brothers, they can’t be separated, blah blah how sweet… I think it could work.
No. 75743
>>75740Not sure this would be good for the younger ones (Jk, JM).
There's a reason why they extented the age limit until when one has to enlist.
No dude under 26 should go if he doesn't have to. Also the members as individuals will probably release stuff anyway.
Jin is the least liked member as well.
No. 75746
>>75743Normally in Korean culture you respect your hyungs but the mankae line seems to bully Jin l
I remember when Jungkook pushed Jin off the stairs once kek
No. 75756
>>75755I think Jimin is capable of having a successful solo career. Even though he is a shit singer, he's the most popular member or one of I'm not sure. I want to say Jungkook too but Idk how bts fans feel about him anymore.
Really don't know about the rest but I can say with certainty Jin will be jobless after Bts.
No. 75759
>>75755They don't need to, they're like the richest idols on earth
But of course they could. They will always have some ratmys to lap up whatever they piss out.
No. 75786
>>75781Different anon but I personally think he can, although I'm not sure how he stands with the Korean public because of his past scandals, so definitely not a good option for him right now. I do know the idol he looks up to is U-Know, so I imagine him doing something similar, maybe collaborating with other artists more than solo.
I liked "Long Flight" personally, it was a bit forgettable but nice and I like his singing voice in contrast with his deeper rap. I personally only dislike his freestyle dance lol but he's still one of my favorite idols and I get why he's seen as one of the most charismatic ones on stage. I'm always drawn to him or Mark.
>>75780Dreamcatcher is one of those groups I personally don't listen to but I feel their comebacks are really good. It's hard to top Deja Vu honestly, it was such a great dramatic song lol. I'm not really feeling the rap in this one.
No. 75796
>>75719This isn’t too bad. I like it.
>>75791I much prefer their song Girl Friend over Bouncy. Bouncy makes me feel a little angry for some reason.
>>75787This song is now stuck in my head, but yeah the yolo part was pretty cringe.
No. 75800
>>75795Shit on NCT all you want I wasn't asking because I wanted to argue. I know that the board is open to everything, I've been here since #4. I was just curious because I feel most music nowadays in kpop has that "noisy" sound. I mean even LOONA's last song was like that. RV has better vocals for sure.
I won't argue that second gen idols had better vocals, but I think there was a lot of shit too. I also feel a lot of second gen fans hate boy groups, like the dude from KPOP4LIFE. He likes soo many songs that I feel if a boy group released it he would absolutely hate it.
No. 75808
>>75755I definitely think there is solo potential, but only for Jungkook, Jimin and MAYBE Jhope. Jungkook is obviously the most skilled member. Jimin is the most popular . Jhope and released a few things and managed to do pretty well.
Their fan base doesn’t care enough about RM to support his solo efforts so I’m not sure what will happen .
Jin has expressed wanting to act YEARS ago, but I’ve never heard of him taking it on??? Taehyung had one acting gig and it was a shit show. If anything Jin has no potential for a solo. Taehyung doesn’t rly either imo.
No. 75809
>>75808I think none of them could handle the pressure as solo artists,except for maybe the rap-line.
Jin is to BTS what Jisoo is to BP,conventionally attractive and just tagging along because he didn't make it into acting.I doubt that he'd seriously be interested in solo work.And V just seems to be completely over being an idol sometimes.He seems more into art and photography.
Junkook and Jimin are deeply insecure and they'd absolutely crumble under any criticism.Jk always cries even at the smallest fuck-up and so does Jimin who also seems to have issues with body image.There's no doubt in my mind that they (imo) are the least suitable for solo work because of that.I imagine that BH would constantly pressure them to meet their standards too.BH doesn't care about their (mental) health judging by what they showed in their documentary and how they exploited Jimin's ED.
No. 75818
>>75808>>75811i dont care about bts but i watched their solo stuff since they have been discussed here for a while now.
jhope is BY FAR the one with the most potential and talent.
maybe check online with what other people are saying, preferably westerners that have worked with him when in the states. put your personal dislike aside. hateboners will just do you a disservice.
No. 75824
>>75818>>75820yeah chicken noodle soup would smash… oh wait
>>75823agree, he needs someone who actually cares about his interests rather than just about him as a part of bts.
No. 75825
>>75776>>75777>>75781A lot of people came with their families and they seemed like 2nd/late 2nd gen fans of shinee/exo. The mom beside me was screaming her top off for Kai.
Mark's solo started off nervous and I think it was because some of his childhood friends he hadn’t seen in years were there.
I got distracted during Baekhyun’s solo but from what I remember he didn’t sing very well, I liked the r&b song he performed though
Lucas’s solo was hard to get through
Kai's "Confession" I like the beat but not his flow or the lyrics. He did a lot of thirst trap stuff that got the kids screaming and it was a bit cringe
Ten is an excellent dancer, but I didn't like the song choice. I think it was his own song but he wasn't singing so idk what that was about.
There was a performance where they all threw frisbees into the crowd and I thought that was hilarious.
I personally enjoyed Baby Don’t Stop, No Manners, and GTA (Taeyong's) the most
I think he can be a strong solo artist. During his solo he held the entire stage pretty well by himself and I actually had a thought about how I wouldn’t mind if the rest of the concert was just him. He had the most energy/enthusiasm throughout, the others seemed tired.
Trying to refresh my memory here but I don't remember much of the other performances just the ones I mentioned. And most of the songs I only heard for the first time at the concert.
Greetings and goodbyes where they stop and talk to the audience were a bit awkward but understandable because half of them don't speak English
No. 75919
>>75755V will go into modeling/fashion/acting.
Jimin and Jungkook will become solo idols.
Hope and RM will tread water as rappers.
Suga will be fine, he’ll probably rap and devote more time to music production. He has hella industry connections too.
Jin will mostly disappear, maybe get a variety gig or something.
No. 75924
>>75755Jin comes from money and owns a restaurant, he probably has other endeavours too so I see him peacing out of stardom, he's not very passionate abt it anyways
Rapline will be fine at least as producers
Taehyung will def go into acting, he's friends with Choi Wooshik and other hyped actor so he has the connections
Jimin and Jungkook in theory have good prospects as solo acts but in reality they're a hot mess so there is that
No. 75931
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Jennie is apparently dating the photographer she worked in London, Hugo Comte. Seen on date at Engawa Restaurant in London with none of her managers or friends with them.
No. 75934
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>>75932Not sure who took this pic of Jennie and some other Korean actresses at some museum, but it's possible she was followed the entire day
No. 75944
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>>75931I know this is Bella Hadid in this pic and she is known for taking photos like this all the time but she is somewhat close to to the same photographer. Makes you wonder if this guy is trying to get close to Jennie just so he can get her comfortable enough to request her to strip down in a future photoshoot.
No. 75946
>>75945So going on private dinner dates
>>75931 without her managers counts as work-related activities now? Why didn't her supposed BFF that flew to London with Jennie come to dinner with her? I guess she didn't want to feel like third-wheel.
No. 75954
>>75952You missed the point. I don’t really cares about she does and I love me some drama. However being so careless express a lack of consideration for her bandmates and a love for attention. Not only she’s awfully bad on stage but she also has dating/rudeness/nepotism scandals/rumors. Jenniechans use anxiety, depression and what else to make her an innocent
victim. The reality is she no better than those talentless Instagram social climbers.
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>>75956Dating and fat accusations were abt Sehyoon. Ex-fan also accused Byeongkwan and Sehyoon of gaming with someone ~
problematic~ and saying disgusting things. idk if there's proof bc everyone's being hush-hush and passing around a private google doc lol
Their company finally made a statement– apparently said fan was following one of the members of ACE around and it was caught on CCTV?
No. 75965
>>75961I read something about super-glue on a car but I have no idea what that is about.
Is there any way to get into the google doc?
No. 75986
>>75726late but gotta admit he looks to be doing really well in those vids, better than the rest of sperm. so yeah, id say he has a good shot at solo stardom.
jennie:
i wont tag those ridiculous posts hating on her. she is famous so everyone wants to get with her. she sleeps around a lot. good for her and it will never be you. nothing new here. you are just making yourself look pathetic by trying to put that 'bitch' down. if she delivers milk, great. if not, stop your whining and get a life.
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SM's new girl group, though only technically.
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/02/sms-subsidiary-mystic-reveals-their-new-girl-group-rookiesof coursed theres a couple of underaged ones, what a shock
No. 75991
>>75977This, Boom, and Love Me Now are my favorites so far.
>>75980I never really pay attention to a lot of boy groups, but I’ll looking into this group more. This is a pretty nice song.
No. 75992
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>>75980Not gonna lie I actually enjoyed this song.
No. 75994
>>75991>I’ll looking into this group moreso you know nct but not the chinese nct subunit?
>>75992something about his face reminds me of jimin. never found him attractive, don't like his voice at all either. wayv may have the weakest vocal line I've seen from an sm group.
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Anon from earlier makes me wish this thread really was full of 2ng hags who hate this shitshow and are just here to shit on it. Instead, we have a thread full of zoomer nctzens who can hardly hide their bias and their shit taste.
Can't even picture anyone older than 19 sincerely enjoying any 3rd gen groups. Pic related, middle school fangirls are the type I imagine being invested in these boys.
No. 76011
>>76009topkek
>>76004sounds milky. pics and stories please
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>>75988The first girl is Takeuchi Miyu? So I guess she did get that nosejob! Ngl she looks much better now so it was for the best
No. 76026
>>76023this is the better looking nose? really?
what was it like before?
No. 76036
>>76033and there it is
kpop fans inferiority/superiority complex towards japanese ppl really does show up every other thread lmao
still mad that japan has an actual fashion industry and 2nd biggest music industry in the world w/out shoving it down americans throats, huh kpoppie?
No. 76040
>>76039i feel like its not even that
they're literally just jpop rejects and see kpop as their only other option short of JAV
No. 76057
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>>76055she got a nose job
No. 76059
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>>76058I know no1curr what knetz think but I lol'd. I had no idea everglow was from fucking Yuehua, a chinese company. Explains a lot tbh (no racebait xx)
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Chen's post in the lysn app. Again it was not received well by most Korean fans.
No. 76064
>>76062clearly noone care kexols thoughts because sm just released a statement confirming there would be no changes to the member line up
and also that the group is basically kill now that everyone's eenlisting and all they're going to do from here on out is sub units, sperm, and solos.
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>>76057different lighting
No. 76073
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I think my husbando constantly spamming his group's Twitter with his weird fucking pseudo-fetish art is what's going to finally make me drop kpop.
No. 76104
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Nayeon's stalker is planning to go back to Korea already.
https://twitter.com/YoshTG/status/1229835052005109760 No. 76112
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>>76104Lmao.
Speaking of deranged, Korean fans are trying to kill A.C.E. with superglue. I have no idea who this is but apparently its a group thats getting semi popular nowadays.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/boy-group-ace-attacked-anti-fan-trying-poison-members-super-glue/ No. 76131
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>>76073>>76080Unfunny. I am not sorry about this,
No. 76145
>>76058isnt this the THIRD time everglow has been exposed for plagiarizing? Why have they been not cancelled yet by the kpop community?
I just find it ironic that momoland got cancelled because one of their song sounded similar but here we have everglow plagiarizing every song in existence and still receiving love from hypocritical kpop stan twt.
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>>76031I hope you're not judging all j-idols by produce48 girls.
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>>76145because momoland plagiarized a popular song and got a hit song with it. while everglow isn't that well known.
No. 76163
>>76162i had hopes for this comeback, but oh god, the autotune
i really hope the bad quality of the recording is distorting the audio, otherwise this is gonna be a mess
No. 76172
>>75991I also like this one because it has 90s r&b boyband vibes
Btw which of their voices is your favorite? (question goes to anyone who listens to their music ofc)
No. 76176
>>76175The only version of Idol that is
valid is the one in the teaser. I still don't know why bighit didn't release that onen lmao. Anyway I agree that Not Today is hot garbage and in some parts they all looked washed out for some reason.
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Jesus what did they do to her. It looks like they merged her with Jessi
No. 76196
>>76192I don't think NCT Dream had a popular concept. Plus SM seems to like pushing whatever song has their golden scammer in it. NCT Dream had the 'cute' thing going for a while but now they're trying to go along with the older (dare I say 'sexy') concept that has been popular for years.
The sexy concept for BGs has become such a 'safe' choice. I'm tired of the same sexy concepts over and over. It's also just so fucking cringey to see girls thirsting over idols bc most if not all 3rd gen idols are not sexy. The only sexy concepts that have been done well have had muscular, masculine men who could sell it (2PM Taecyeon). To the anons here who think otherwise, stop flicking your bean to your bias's veiny ana arms and highly edited fansite photos. Go outside, get a boyfriend. Get a therapist. (Joking…kind of)
Am I the only one hoping for some sort of reverse? I kinda wish the flowerboy concept would be popular. I linked a video of 'flowerboy' 1st gen idols for reference, it's kind of cute even if you hate the song. I like the baggy clothes but that's prob just nostalgia.
And no, I'm not saying 30 year old idols should do this but it's a FAR better option for the underage ones (aged below 22 when it might become cringe) to do more age appropriate concepts instead of being sexualized.
No. 76205
>>76196flowerboys looked human back then
now they try to look like botched anime characters with weird colored hair
No. 76210
>>76206why did they use so much autotune? it ruined the whole song.
this is basically like not today 2.0
No. 76211
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Why is it called kinetic manifesto film?
No. 76213
>>76211holy shit lol
V for visual everyone kek
No. 76226
>>76206The quality of their songs and videos has been going downhill since Spring Day, like another anon said. everything since then has been a letdown
Why did they promote this as a hardcore album? The single is BWL tier.
No. 76228
>>76206This is so shit. The autotune kills any chance of it being listen-able.
Also, jimincel looks so fucking ugly with that greasy mop on his head.
No. 76230
>>76206Why is it so fucking long? The song just sucks ass. I may had given it a chance if it didn't have so much autotune, but still would had cringed because of jimin and V's voices, can they stop trying to sing so high??
I don't dislike autotune, I really liked it in EVERGLOW'S Bon bon chocolat for example, but it sounds really bad in this one and it just makes it seem like they can't sing/rap anymore.
No. 76231
>>76230Also
oof JK's high note around 3:11 lol it was more robotic than human. That much auto tone doesn't match with a performance video, it just looks weird. Like Baekhyun doing the weird robot voice in Obsession…
The lives are going to be so bad because of it lol
No. 76246
>>76196Why are you so
triggered by people liking a different type than you? Not everyone’s into the muscular masculine look. Chill.
No. 76247
>>76245I doubt it, it's probably photoshopped. You can't really suspect something like that unless it's a candid photo or during a live.
My feed is already full of BTS reactions labeling this song "best ever" lol I get so frustrated with the obvious pandering to ARMY.
No. 76248
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>>76247These fans are delulu.You can be a fan of someone but still say that a cb is mediocre or even subpar yet look at them praising it like it's the best thing that they've put out.Ridiculous.
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some stans on twitter are not happy about bts new album packaging, especially the photobook. It's made with really thin paper and it kinda comes apart immediately ?
Here's the link to the video, the replies are hilarious because apparently not liking subpar merch is being ungrateful.
https://twitter.com/SpringDayKV613/status/1230839895083479041As an ex army, I have 2 of their albums and it was always good quality so idk what the fuck was bighit thinking.
I've listened to the album and it's so forgettable ugh I already don't remember half of the songs and I really can't stand jimin and jk's perpetual high grating autotuned voices
No. 76281
>>76279I have the CD and I can confirm the packaging is just utter shit. The paper is newspaper paper, I got a group photocard (Normally I wouldn't complain but it was just a picture from the "photobook", talk about cheap), the photobook isn't even a proper photobook, and yes it does come apart inmediately. BigHit really dropped the ball here.
Even the Wings album had better packaging and that's saying something.
Oh well, at least I enjoyed the CD…
No. 76286
>>76284They can see themselves more in that idol while the "perfect" ones are too unreachable for them. Also I think a lot of people like to root for the underdog in spite of their lack of talent. Or maybe that untalented member is funny/likable in shows, etc.
Another thing is I think a lot of kpop fans like to mother the idols because of how the media portrays them as cute and innocent. Hence why they baby the ones that are outside of the spotlight the most.
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>>76298Yeah I was just confused because a couple of anons noticed something different and I didn't. I initially read the post wrong and though someone was shocked because another idol looked like Jennie, not the other way around lol
Talking about Gangnam unnie, you should see the girl from ANS. I can't believe she's 19 and already has so much ps, considering idols change their appearance so much during their career I'm afraid for her. She's really at the limit because she still looks pretty albeit fake, but it could go overboard fast.
No. 76303
>>76299fucking kek
listened to the new bts title for 30 seconds but couldnt be bothered to continue and dont give enough shits about them to listen to the album
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I’m so confused because first they talk shit about how western artists don’t know how to make physical albums and now they’re pulling out every excuse in the book for the bullshit they were sold for $40+ . Obviously you wouldn’t buy it if you don’t like the music, but you don’t want a shit product either .
No. 76311
>>76308if they were paying for just the album then the price wouldnt have mysteriously and coincidentally gone up as the photobook sized up. do they think paper, printing materials, production costs, photoshoot costs, clothing, props etc are funded from nothing? you pay for everything thats included and as a customer youre allowed to complain if youve been charged more for lower quality. im sure mr. new-pair-of-airpods-every-month wont die if people make
valid complaints about something they spent their or their parens hard earned money on only to get some newspaper.
No. 76317
>>76206i am disappointed and unsurprised.
pleasantly surprised to see sienna lalau though.
No. 76324
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>>76319>using the term lookist unironicallyyou simp for ugly untalented males who will never fuck you KEK
No. 76339
>>76313I think NCT having the distinctive "experimental" sound is their biggest curse. Some of their songs are really nice, but they just get lost in the sea of similar-sounding dull songs.
Besides, there is no change in concept from one release to another, so all songs sound like they could be on one record. For example, 'Love me now' is too similar to their pre-debut track 'Switch', and 'Day Dream' sounds exactly like it is from 'Regular' era. I feel like SM could put much more effort into NCT's concepts music-wise.
And ugh, I just can't with their rap-line's tracks… Who told this kids they can rap? They both are cringe personified and I can't believe their fans don't get embarassed when they see these try-hards.
No. 76344
>>76287Nice!
>>76291Because big hit is retarded
>>76328No idea, but Wings was absolutely their best era. All BH is doing is promoting bts over and over with no quality or substance. I'm gonna be disappointed when my album arrives now
No. 76345
>>763442015-16 BTS was the their peak honestly
Wings, HYYH had very good songs and felt more real kek I can’t believe I’m saying that
Honestly I would prefer INU, RUN, BST over IDOL, BWL , ON anyday
No. 76349
>>76345Ofc those 3 are better. With the exception of idol – which was a tailored order made by big hit to western producers – those other 2 are justin bieber/jonas brothers/whatever rejected songs.
They should give up already on being palatable to the middle american. They're never going to be mainstream solely on the base of singing in korean, muricans barely can stand spanish songs ffs. They're wasting their 2 last years of being NBG with less than mediocre work.
No. 76367
>>76364That and the gay ass name
“Kinetic Manifesto” tf lololol
No. 76384
>>76376i wonder what kind of video bighit will come up with to make up for this mediocre song so it can break a record
i've checked out the sia version, her voice is so out of place in the song
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Tf is this?
No. 76401
>>76399 Korean Fans = Extremely conservative and critical.
Western Fans = Extremely over the top horny shits, sexualizing anything on site.
Dunno which one is worse.
No. 76415
>>76375kdramas were ok back when actual actors were in them, in the mid 2000s they started putting kpop idols in everything which was the problem
uee, sohee and yoona especially just came in with their low tier acting skills and shit on the entire genre and getting rewarded for it that it didnt even matter anymore
No. 76425
>>75708>>76206It's a mediocre cb but I still have hope for the 28th.
What I dislike about the album is that Seokjin's solo recycled several old songs, Jungkook's solo was much more inferior compared to Euphoria and at last- the song "Friends"…the concept is gaybaiting if that's a word…and Jimin and Taehyung hugging after that interview in America seemed so forced…
They are trying to make money off the shippers again, I feel so sorry for Jimin.
No. 76427
>>76425(Same commentor)
Bts' recent fanservice is just way too forced…it used to be entertaining (kissing wow so funny), now it's become this huge mess that I'm scared that it will affect the boys.
I used to be delulu and think that Jimin and Jungkook were genuinely dating. I reached that conclusion after all the intimacy, kissing and lap sitting, that they displayed during Love Yourself tour…I am beginning to realise that Jimin and Taehyung are now doing the same except even more forced…it will break my heart to learn that the boys are being instructed fanservice.
No. 76428
>>76425>i feel so sorry for JiminPretty sure Jimin doesn’t care. He actually loves queerbaiting and looking like he lusts for every member/anyone. Don’t be a delusional Jimin stan.
This album reeks of trying hard to get that western validation, it’s pathetic.
No. 76433
>>76428Yes, I see that side of him sometimes. But I just really hope it's just the company instructing some of the really ridiculous things…his "bigender" tattoo, the way he'll be the only one NOT wearing a suit when everyone else is.
I am done with the fluffy cardigans and glittery makeup…
No. 76436
>>76434I'm the ex-delulu anon.
Anyway I have the same habits of reading into body lanaguage (like an obsessive idiot) and I'm already getting vibes that Bighit is trying to replace Jungkook with Taehyung as the gay delulu favourite…
No. 76443
>>76427>>76425Jimincel stan, if we have to be honest here then shouldnt we feel sorry for jungkook and taehyung instead?
Jimin-cel loves fanservice because that is the only thing he is good at, he is shit at singing, jhope is better at dancing, and v/jk are better looking than him so the only thing jimincel can claim is his fanservice and thats why he does it so much.
When bts were in saudi arabia,they were forbidden to do gay fanservice there yet jimin still kept on chasing after Jk/v, with jk flinching with fear and avoiding him and V looking sick yet jimin still keept on pushing it…..so…
No. 76446
>>76434honestly with all the tattoo girl drama they are probably trying to avoid ANY dating rumors abt jungkook, even when its the delulu shipping ones to keep him out of the spotlight
i dont think fan service is a chore at all for jimin since hes naturally affectionate and vmin is the least controversial ship among the great jungkook/jimin/v twilight style love triangle because jikook/vkook delulus can interpret it as "bffs just messing around
No. 76448
>>76444This stuff is usually booked months in advance, I highly doubt it.
They may have to cancel their concert in Seoul in April though.
No. 76451
>>76447as a 'ratmy' myself i see more people ranting about streams than the actual music
imo its better than MOTS: persona but i prefer black swan to ON and had different expectations for the album based on black swan
bighit did a bad job with making clear that their pretentious ass kinetic manifesto is an official MV so a lot of IG and facebook fans are not streaming and waiting for the MV on the 28th
on is more my taste than boy with luv but i worry about jks vocal cords on tour trying to hit all those high notes without autotune
also solo stans are on a roll this cb
overall reception seems to be positive but confused
No. 76452
>>76447not on twitter but on tumblr, they've been praising it, haven't seen a single person say anything negative
what a surprise
No. 76454
>>76452Cause it’s better than their previous one I reckon.
And indeed vmin is the least controversial ship, hence the silly song.
I also think Jimin likes the clothes he wears. Tbh he’s the only one with some sense of style, I often want what he wears.
No. 76456
>>76446That's funny, cause the lyrics of jk's solo song suggest that he had to give up a relationship for his job.
Everyone who still thinks jimincel is a gay butterfly is a delulu. His song is the ultimate fuckboy hymn. Really surprised i don't hear anyone complain about how sexual this song is.
No. 76457
>>76456Cause fans love his sensual side.
Jk was rumored to have a gf actually, about 2 years ago.
No. 76466
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>>76279This argument would make sense if they were talking about disposable products, but this is a photo album…people are supposed to keep it. And "organic" doesn't mean the paper it has to be the lowest quality you can print on. Why can't they just say they're disappointed? Any disagreement or bad thing you say is dispelled by ARMYs moving the goal post or making some shite up, when will this fandom collapse in on itself?
No. 76476
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They really want to not be categorized as a kpop group, huh. No wonder most ratmies are pretentious little shits, they’re full of themselves. From what i understand of their songs’ lyrics they know the unhealthy impact they have on their fans and encourage them to keep looking at them like that and now in interviews they talk about creating their own genre… sit your ass down.
No. 76483
>>76477>>76475>>76468The school where ten studied alone cost 25k a year only in tuition.
Johnny family also seems well-off someone leaked info about his family.
Jaehyun family is also is a doctor and I think his mom was a fashion designer.
Winwin family went to pick him up at the airport in a Porsche cayenne.
Yangyang has a pictures with sport cars and wearing luxury clothing since predebut.
Hendery family is also well of.
In general in kpop foreigners are usually well-off.
Wendy school cost 45k pretty expensive.
Also most Idols nowadays come from wealthy families, it's not like those tvxq/suju members who where poor or sunmi. Maybe korean people are becoming more wealthy tbh I really don't know if it's true.
No. 76487
>>76485I used to be obsessed about the HYYH story, I even read the book released last year.
Using their real names for their characters wasn't a good choice. Each character has a sad storyline, specially Jungkook and Yoongi. They both try to kill themselves several times and Jin tries to stop them. The webtoon is pretty graphic, I was horrified. Imagine reading a comic where you are a character and you try to kill yourself in this comic so many times, in a pretty ugly way.
No. 76491
>>76483I didn't know that about jaehyun's family but I always assumed they were rich.
What about taeyong, mark, yuta, and taeil? I've never heard anything about their family's wealth status's
No. 76494
>>76468all of snsd is pretty well off now, but the ones who already came from super rich families were jessica, sooyoung and sunny
tiffany was basically disowned/cut off from her family so she got none of whatever they had
sooyoungs family took her in financially
No. 76503
>>76483Same anon as
>>76491 but I forgot to include Jungwoo and Haechan. I've never heard anything about their families either
No. 76508
>>76504Her mom died when she was 12/13 Korean age and went went on her first SM audition at 14/15 and they signed her but she had already been attempting to audition because she was obsessed with BoA and Rain and had already met him lol, and she actually obtained an invote from SM specifically after having already sent in a video of her school performances. She was very vocal about how her family basically treated her like a black sheep, because she wanted to embrace Korea and Korean culture, and her love for Kpop while her father wanted her to be American and focus on school like her siblings.
"She was invited to audition at the SM Entertainment Starlight Casting System, where she auditioned with Christina Aguilera's song "The Voice Within", and joined the company on October 2004 in Los Angeles at age 15."
"Tiffany is the youngest of three siblings. Her older sister studied anthropology at Berkeley. For much of her early career when approached with the topic of mothers or family, Tiffany would often refer to her father or both parents; on a radio broadcast she stated that she missed her mother who was far away and she had not seen her in some time. However, in late 2009 she said for the first time in public that her mother had already died.[8] She later said that her mother had died two years before she herself became a trainee, and that she is somewhat distant with her father, all of her immediate family living overseas.[9]
No. 76518
>>76511Leeteuk's father killed himself and his parents (Leeteuk's grandparents) in a murder-suicide, I think that one takes the cake
>>76513She left when Yoona was very young, and rumours say that it was because she was a mail-order SEA bride, which is where the speculation of Yoona being half-Vietnamese comes from
No. 76524
>>76522nayrt but
There are a lot of idols who look secretly mixed. Yugyeom of GOT7 being one of the big ones that comes to mind.
No. 76526
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>>76519yoona literally has a malaysian doppelganger and a suspiciously missing mom in a country that constantly takes in south east asian mail order brides, she's obviously half sea
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>>76526No, Yoona had tons of plastic surgery. Her pre-debut face is very South Korean
No. 76530
>>76526Anon people from different ethnicities can look alike….
Doesn’t Obama have an Indonesian doppelgänger?
No. 76532
>>76522some hapas looks completely East Asian
Just ask r/hapas
No. 76534
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>>76522There's people like hangyul from x1 (Well he is adopted idk about his bio parents) and jihyo who looks suspicious.
No. 76542
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I feel like his face has changed somehow but I can't put my finger on it…
No. 76543
>>76503nctfag here and from much speculation lol im pretty sure taeyong, haechan, mark, arent rich. but the majority of nct definitely is. nct’s been pretty good about not having much family info leaked, i guess it’s a byproduct of them all being trainees from a pretty young age. there arent even pictures of their siblings out there. doyoung, johnny, jaehyun, jeno, jaemin, are all well off for sure, all of wayv is LOADED (theres a twitter post going around about how none of them know how to boil ramen). no real info on taeil or jungwoo either?
No. 76547
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>>76519Yeah I agree with you. Im
>>76508 and have never heard that Yoona is possibly half South East Asian. I do know that her parents divorced when she was too little to remember much of anything. But she has never really talked about it and its not public knowledge. That rumor sounds straight out of some random Allkpop or Soompi forum lol. I definitely believe that there are biracial idols that dont discuss it, but Yoona has a very Korean profile and looks like an average Korean girl. At least she did back in the day, but like a lot of idols has softened her features with plastic surgery, which is her prerogative of course. Her "doppelganger" only slightly resembles her current look/features.
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>>76547She actually looks a lot better here with her normal jaw and nose….i dont understand why she made them smaller.
>>76548all sm idols are obssesed with plastic surgery
No. 76551
>>76545xiaojun's dad is a semi famous tv persona, isnt he?
probably yes.
No. 76555
>>76542maybe it's the lighting/makeup but he looks older like taeil now…
>>76549>all sm idols are obssesed with plastic surgeryi think it's mostly the company who pushes them to do it tho
No. 76556
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>>76546ateez looks even worse
No. 76558
>>76543>all of wayv is LOADEDI thought Lucas was upper middle class at most. Then again, middle class in Hong Kong already sorta = rich. He got dragged by cfans of all people for not being as rich as the other members or going to a ghetto public school or something like that.
>>76551Xiaojun is a survival show reject so I assume he is
No. 76559
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>>76558>ghetto public schoolLol I remembered this
No. 76560
>>76559THATS LUCAS?
damn skin whitening really changes you
No. 76562
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>>76548>>76549its how many of them will age. plastic surgery is complicated. doing one thing can affect other things in the face.
also doing ps young can have unforeseen results when older.
pic related(spot the other plastic surgery guys next to jj): jj is in his early 30s. no idea what he has had done, but clearly he had and its very visible now.
on top of that the lifestyle might not be the healthiest. staying up non stop for schedules and partying with groupies, drinking etc.
heechul is what? 37? his face is noticeably sagging and it doesnt look as though he had a lot done. he never looked as (filler)bloated in younger pics as i.e. taemin.
taemin is 27(?) and the signs of aging are already hitting him now (and the past year).
on the bright side:they are rich and can easily afford good plastic surgeons for a face lift (10-15k) (or thread lift, lots cheaper)
No. 76566
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>>76562jaejoong only really messes with his nose and jaw now so he's avoided looking really uncanny the way a lot of eye surgeries can leave you looking, but from a lot of angles he definitely looks worse than he would without the work. his nose was sort of hooked and crooked the last time i really kept up with him but its been really straight and sort of round for at least 5 years now, and his jaw looked fine after the predebut work. it's probably a way to get away from the harsher image he had and look younger, but he's been one bad surgery away from scary for a long time. every new piece of work he gets is just a coin toss between looking a bit different or completely messed up
No. 76567
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>>76566he had double eyelid surgery early on.
No. 76569
>>76503>>76491Here's what I have
Jungwoo no idea, I haven't see nobody saying he is rich or anything like that, but he went to a technical high school and majored in mechanical engineering, doesn't seems like a thing for rich kids tbh.
Yuta dad works building houses, yuta himself worked in 4 convenience stores and in a flower shop as part time jobs.
Taeyong probably also too in the lower income scale in NCT since before smrookies he got tricked by Jaehyun and Johnny to take off his shoes before entering to the plane because he has never been in one before, he and his sister payed vacations to his parents overseas since they have never been outside of Korea, he also worked part time and of course his scamming antics. But his parents house has a backyard and he is from Seoul, and one of his cousins has a ig where she posts pictures of her travels but could be her own money idk.
Taeil dad is a taxi driver it seems and Taeil actually managed to enter to a very competitive college hanyang university with competition of 407:1, his sister is or was studying in a very good college too.
Mark dad is a pastor, he lived in Vancouver, is rumored that his brother passed YG modeling audition but it's been long time since I read that.
I have no idea about haechan family but haven't heard nobody saying he was from a rich family.
No. 76584
>>76569I wonder what the dynamics are between these members and the loaded ones
> Taeil actually managed to enter to a very competitive college hanyang university with competition of 407:1Why the fuck did he give up an opportunity like this to become an
idol?
No. 76592
>>76043lolwut I've found the reverse to be the case. The Japanese idol industry is gross but there are plenty of cute and pretty J-pop idols.
>>76057Mina looks like Sana in the first pic.
>>76582Have you heard of something called Eurocentric beauty standards, anon? People have been making fun of Asians for having monolids for year and now you're implying it's their fault for not embracing them more? Come on.
No. 76600
>>76599Well when a race like whites have all those features you want naturally there is bound to be some white worship
it’s not hard to understand
No. 76606
>>76605I’m might get banned for racebait at this point but fuck it
White people on average don’t really have huge hook noses or caveman brows ( more of a Middle East/ jew thing)
but do fit Korean beauty standards more than the average korean
No. 76609
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>>76608I’ve heard about this woman being the ideal beauty in korea
and of course Koreans aren’t trying to look like cavemen they’re going for a ideal that are more common in white people
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>>76609I'm pretty sure you heard about that
on lolcow. lmfao
No. 76623
>>76607Whenever I’ve seen WayV they do give off a kind of “rich boys playing around” vibe.
Also, can anyone speak on their popularity in China? It’s hard to gauge whether they’re actually successful or if it’s just leftover NCT fans
No. 76627
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>>76604he did have a way older girlfriend when he was a really young teenager, 13/14 and a 19/20 year old. This is from a translated Q&A blog post from 2002 when he was 16. Also, if any member of TVXQ was getting pimped out by SM it was obviously him. I think if all of TVXQ left SM in 2009 there would maybe be more info on how shady the company was in the 2000s because it's always felt weird to me
No. 76630
>>76626chaeryoung ruins it all to be honest. She isnt conventionally pretty and then there's yuna, who shocked me when she was chosen as the visual (yea yea, its bcos of ~muh koreann beauty standurrds~ but she just looks so off, resembling the joker sometimes). she and lia have the same thing going on, which is looking weird when they start to smile. Ryujin imo looks pretty but bland and yeji also seems to be one of the pretty ones, but has an interesting face.
Chaeryoung shouldnt have been in itzy. She takes away all the "visuals" the whole group has left.
No. 76635
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>>76630Chaeryeong is way easier to look at than Yeji and Yuna, Idg why she is getting shitted on. Sure her makeup and hairstyling is shit most of the time but her face is so clean looking you wouldn’t get tired of it unlike Yuna who is an eyesore most of the time and looks like Han Yeseuls age nowadays.
https://twitter.com/archiveitzy/status/1224209587961847810 Chaeryeong isn’t conventionally pretty or super model esque but it doesn’t mean she is ugly or anything, quite nice looking IMO, the fugly one in Itzy is Yeji.
No. 76637
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/sm-trainee-nct-concert-spotted/SM’s new boygroup is gonna overpower Txt and Ateez so much lol.
Hope SM doesn’t fuck them up like they did to their top boy groups, Hot, TVXQ and Exo. Lee Sooman recently had overseas business to promote the new BG and GG they’re probs gonna be sibling groups
No. 76655
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>>76604>>76654also this:
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/01/jyj-s-jaejoong-talks-about-violations-by-sasaeng-fans-they-broke-into-my-bedroom
>“There were many fans who broke into my bedroom… In the middle of the night, while I was sleeping, on top of me…“ adding, "There are so many things they did to me that can’t be said on TV"https://www.koreaboo.com/news/jyj-jaejoong-terrifying-incident-sasaeng/
>…a sasaeng had snuck up on him during a leisurely break at a sauna and snapped a photo of him while he was asleep. The sasaeng then posted it online, even bragging that she kissed him while he was sleeping. No. 76667
>>76665Yeah Twice has that cute/ageyo/kawaii concept that the west would find weird, its a very asian/weeb taste
so it might be jarring for westerners to see grown women act like kids….
No. 76672
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rose with them linebacker shoulders
No. 76676
>>76673Probably what
>>76675 said. All idols who aren't from 1% families are generally looked down upon there despite mainland China being the biggest shithole in Asia.
No. 76679
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This made me laugh waaay too hard
No. 76685
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>People who have a SK passport that will enter UK will be quarantined for 14 days
L
Sk going on lockdown
No. 76691
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>>76609>>76622Nah for some reason Romeo and Juliet 1968 was a huge deal over there. Even today you see idols compared to Olivia Hussey.
I think it's in general the asian culture to have an "ideal" to target.
No. 76692
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Is anyone watching the Nizi project?
I dunno if its the culture or just the people themselves but these girls are focused like a laser beam. What I've K-Pop industry imploded all of a sudden? Would they just sudoku?
No. 76695
>>76669They’re trainees tho, not yet celebs or official ones.
Plus the fact that they’re 100 times better looking with half their face covered than Txt and Ateez do says a lot. Atleast they’re heads are proportionate w their body lmfao
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>>76681Without stage lights and idol makeup she is fugly tho
She has a resemblance to a snake now that they gave her upturned eyebrows, she was orett6 with straight ones.
She legit looks like Park Sodam.
No. 76703
>>76668They're still singing in aegyo voices about oppas, wearing darker clothes won't change that fact. Fancy and Feel Special doesn't erase their entire discography from 2015
Also none of them speak anything close to English
No. 76712
>>76711There’s a lot of other talented individuals with republic.
It’s the same label as Taylor swift, Ariana grande, DNCE, Lorde, chainsmokers, Psy, Drake, DJ Khalid, and Post Malone to name a handful.
Very surprised that this is the record the deal was made with. I wonder if twice will try changing anything to appeal to the American audiences and if so, what specifically.
No. 76715
>>76710>>76712well, it seems like a last ditch effort to prolong their run.
i wouldnt be surprised if the dating rumors keep accumulating from now on and their incel lewding (older) male fanbase will dry up, hence the try for western market which cares less about dating.
i totally agree with the "they have 0 appeal to western market" comments.
main audience is usually teenagers cause they are the malleable with some money soft target. the girls dont have the talents, looks or age to appeal to them (imo). + they would need a 180 turn from current concept.
isnt dreamcatcher currently kinda the thing (in gg) for western female kpop listeners?
No. 76724
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Lmaoo seems like bts are flopping
No. 76725
>>76724Why are they so obsessed with numbers? they're already rich and i hate having to see 'PLEASE REMEMBER TO STREAM AND BUY X SONG HERE' over and over.
>>76721It's boring to watch an interview and only see one member talking (broken english.) It's embarrassing too for them to not know anything after so many years
>they can't even be bothered with anything non-korean. It makes them look bad too. Plus imo it's a bit disrespectful. That is my opinion though so pls no bully.I agree
No. 76726
>>76724idgi their overall sales are lower than boy with luv? or their sales for oen of the singles?
>>76721they probably don't have time to learn english to be fair but even so i think it's a deliberate choice so they can continue pretending that them being promoted in the west is organic rather than the result of a co ordinated pr campaign and so they can stick to their "authentic musicians who will never compromise by recording in english" narrative
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Armys are mad at this review from Pitchfork. They are even trying to cancel a big account for saying they don't dislike the review.
Because the reviews have been too positive they were hoping Pitchfork would give them a good score as well.
As someone who's following the group for some time and was quite disappointed with the album, I agree with everything. Armys just can't say the reviewer didn't do any research on the group, because the guy clearly did. The reviewer mentions BTS' story, the lyrics of the songs and even acknowledges the rappers as some of the best from Korea.
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/bts-map-of-the-soul-7/
>Except the members of BTS maintain that there’s still a beating heart at the core of the machine. Authenticity is part of their appeal, and they use vaguely philosophical, Jungian blueprints to make music about being true to one’s self. 7, which follows (and includes much of) the 2019 mini-album Persona, is part memoir, part fan service, part amateur psych eval. Though the music is flattened enough to appeal to just about everyone, it can still tap into something enchanting, but the glimpses of personality are fleeting.
>If the most personal is indeed the most creative, then 7 could have benefitted from a bit more personality. V has been open about how “scary” it is to be stalked by fans and Suga has rapped about depression before, but that kind of candor and complication doesn’t factor much into this, their album about the dark side of the psyche and the BTS journey. They could’ve gone deeper and used this psychoanalytic framework to say more about the joys and terrors of all-consuming celebrity—about what it does to the soul. Much has been made of BTS’ autonomy as creators, but their album feels like a brand activation, the latest petition for everyone to like and subscribe. No. 76733
>>76725because they identify their self worth with it, despite the fact its only costing them valuable time and money.
>>76730>On the spectrum of transitional, autobiographical pop, it’s closer to Bieber’s flavorless Changes than Ariana Grande’s vibrant thank u, next.rather than any kpop artist or group i would be inclined to stan the author, Sheldon Pearce.
thanks for this anon!
No. 76745
>>76736They seem to only want to get complimented and babied, and when somebody has something to criticize they have the audacity to scoff as if they insulted royals or something.
They should recognize they got fame because of their spamming fans not because of their “talent”.
No. 76746
>>76738Lel, most of Nct members were promoted years in the public with their faces recognized I don’t get what you’re trying to achieve.
Not the same situation.
No. 76759
>>76644Omg yes his english keeps getting worse at every cb despite travelling there more often??? Or maybe it's just that he's been having to give more elaborate/complex answer and this shows that he's not that at that level of fluency just yet. Anyways it kind of gives me secondhand embarrassment.
>>76716Lmao it was obviously not live singing, it's just a prerecorded track that is a tad different from the original to sound more authentic
No. 76773
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Wtf they just finished their first tour and are already announcing the second one
No. 76789
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>>76723If Everglow have so many Western fans why can't they sell out a 1200-seat theatre (blue in pic attached are sold seats)
No. 76793
Can we talk about the best looking 4th gen boy groups in kpop? I'm not talking just three members but like a general attractiveness overall. Maybe one/two slightly unattractive members to be fair. I know I'm asking a lot (and kidding myself) by asserting this: DO NOT be biased, please. I am asking this question as a 2nd gen fan who has no attachment to 4th gen kpop what you all think is the best looking group. Not how beautiful your bias or your bias group is. Let the music not matter for a second (because let's be real, most kpop nowadays is trash anyways).
I did some research and so far I think The Boyz is the best looking 4th gen group. Fuck, I really tried to find another so I could list two but there were none that even came close to The Boyz (which ain't too hard unlike coming close to 2PM or smth). I Never heard of them rlly on here aside from one anon, so I assume they're nugu af. I know there's one anon who is obsessed with them in here–in anticipation of that anon, pls do not spam this thread with stuff on The Boyz.
I also think Got7 is pretty attractive across most members so they get a mention too, though I think they might fall under 3rd gen.
Before you respond:
- A group with 3-4 members can be mentioned but I'm not gonna think too much of it because it's easier to meet the 'visual' group standards when you have so few members compared to other groups.
- No NCT, BTS, Seventeen, Stray Kids, Astro (averaging Eunwoo's looks w everyone else's still does not count), and any other obviously not overall-attractive groups.
No. 76808
>>76806Other groups have done it though - GOT7 and Monsta X improved their English by leaps and bounds between last year and this year. Kihyun mentioned communicating daily with English-speaking friends and American tutors, even IM improved a lot since his English was only somewhat better than RM's.
I'm not saying BTS should be forced into improving, but it isn't as difficult to get to a basic conversational level if you do even a little practice everyday.
No. 76810
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This looks painful
No. 76814
>>76812j-hope…
>>76773How has mark not had a breakdown yet he’s been non-stop for years now
No. 76820
>>76813Yeah they're super new, give them time anon. Also, I agree CIX is cute but you can't really call them "natural" lol Jinyoung is the most ken doll idol I've seen so far. Dude is too pretty.
>>76816I miss Mark in NCT Dream but it's good he has one less group to worry about lol. Any news on what will happen to Dream?
No. 76823
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Why are Txt fans comparing this person to Jonghyun so much?
At best he looks like Leeteuk, and is nowhere near the talent Jonghyun had during his debut years.
No. 76825
>>76823I can kiind of see what they mean but yeah VERY little. Doesn't looks like Leeteuk either. God why are TXT so creepy looking? or they have the most unfortunate photos ever?
Also I wrote Leeteuk wrong initially and it wanted to autocorrect to Lettuce lol
No. 76828
>>76802is jin always this moody lol?
also they really rely on jungkook for live vocals wow. i know it's just karaoke and they aren't trying their hardest but the rest are so mediocre at singing
No. 76829
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>>76825The thing is they can say that shit all they like, but it’s that they’re convinced he’s some angel sent down by Jonghyun or a reincarnation of him (sure that’s how reincarnation works) . I am like 90 percent sure majority of their fans are 8 year olds, or just mentally disturbed.
Then they had the audacity to mock Shinee’s performance of their debut song which was arguably ten times better considering it was live compared to Txt..
They still wonder to this day why Shawols hate them when they even stole their Aqua blue color.
The top is Shinee’s emblem and light stick and then the bottom is Txt.
Might as well name Txt “Twinkle” while they’re at it stealing Shinee’s image.
No. 76832
>>76802damn they are cute ngl
they seem so clueless while rm and corden are talking
No. 76833
>>76806Well, then you're a slow learner. Normal people can hold a conversation after weekly english lessons in high school (and most kids are only half-assing those). Ratmon also managed to do it, why does the rest of bts need so many additional years? Making millions should be good enough of a motivation to sit their asses down and do something.
>>76811Everybody always says that, but there's the proof? In every interview his only sitting there, smiling like a dumb preteen and occasionally shouting a word.
>>76826But imagine if somebody said bts shouldn't eat that much kimchi cause they smell…
No. 76835
>>76833i’m not a slow learner lol. you probably overestimate your own language abilities if you think a few weekly lessons make you capable of having a conversation more in depth than ordering food or asking for directions or introducing yourself.
> Everybody always says that, but there's the proof? In every interview his only sitting there, smiling like a dumb preteen and occasionally shouting a word. literally just watch the fallon interview. he speaks pretty well.
> But imagine if somebody said bts shouldn't eat that much kimchi cause they smell…well that would probably have some racist connotations. post malone isn’t going to get his panties in a twist over suga saying he smokes a lot lol, no need to be offended on his behalf. it was a joke.
>>76834it’s not kpop critical anymore, you’re not required to mindlessly hate-jerk.
No. 76842
>>76835I mean you're having a conversation with me right now, so I'd say hs was enough (and I certainly wasn't the best in my class lol)
You probably don't even realize just how many lc users are esl (and the vast majority didn't have the privilege of getting extra english lessons like bts).
>literally just watch the fallon interview.Which video? There are so many and I'm definitely not going through all of them.
No. 76845
>>76842high school is four years of daily lessons at a time when your biggest focus in life is your studies. not to mention there’s a big difference between reading and writing and speaking off the cuff. you have time to compose your thoughts and revise any mistakes… it’s not the same as trying to hold a conversation on national tv without mispronouncing anything, saying the wrong thing, conveying the wrong tone, etc. i studied french for 8 years in school… after 2 years i felt pretty comfortable with reading/writing but it wasn’t until 4-5 years in that i felt comfortable enough to have a conversation without embarrassing myself. bts does try to speak english on american shows but they revert to korean when they’re trying to explain something with a little more depth.
https://youtu.be/v_9vgidPJ8ghe talks for awhile at 5:18
No. 76846
>>76837Are all of you guys seriously new to KPOP, has everybody forgotten how BH spammed articles with fake upvotes and like 5 comments about how Bts is rising as Exo’s rival since 2014, or how they had other KPOP groups in their tags, clashed with BB’s concept when they released Run (Sober of BB), they constantly dragged Exo and faked their identities on community forums like Jjuk Bang and DC gallery, BH adding fuel to the fire that Bts is a rising threat against Exo in 2015.
No feedback, nothing.
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2016/05/enter-talk-bts-is-again-in-plagiarism.htmlThey copied Exo’s jacket shooting, said they were honored after being accused of copying Exo, copied Exo’s album crest logo weeks after it had came out.
I was an Army during all of this, i frequented Twitter. Believe me when I say BH is shit, they threw fans letters right in front of them, there were abuse allegations.
Do you think they don’t have the guts to do media play lol.
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2016/05/enter-talk-bts-fanclub-armys-apology.html No. 76857
>>76853ego > shadow > filter > moon > inner child > my time
i like everything moon and above. i like jimin’s voice a lot but i can understand why someone wouldn’t like filter, it does sound grating on the ears at times. overall the mixing and production of the album is atrocious
No. 76858
>>76854Lol you’re acting as if I’m just nitpicking one picture that happened to be similar, the whole photo album was a direct copy of Shinee’s photo album. There’s no mere coincidence if you have 7 photos identical to someone else photo shoot.
During the same time frame, they got accused of copying Bigbang, Shinee, Exo, Block B and various of nugu idols etc.
You’d think there was a problem with Bts and not everybody else just “happened” to collide with their concept.
Huh.
No. 76873
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>>76870idk, i’ve noticed that too. to be fair he’s seemed pretty upbeat in their most recent promotions, like joking around and smiling more. but during awards season he seemed pretty checked out. might just be fatigue or a depressive mood. it also seems like he’s been staying up extremely late/can’t sleep.
No. 76883
>>76872>>76880If I was a fan I'd prefer somebody who is smiling and talkative during shows, interviews, etc over somebody who tweets/posts a lot. The latter seems just forced, like "Yeah quickly gotta upload some shit to please those bitches". Being friendly in front of the camera is a lot less easy to fake than just writing cheesy stuff online and therefore those people are also likely more genuine.
If we take a look at american celebs, the ones with less of an online presence are also usually the more normal, down to earth or at least less
problematic ones.
No. 76887
>>76878i used to feel the same, he felt colder than the rest and the trad farm boy vibes from him would put me off.
after looking more into their content i feel like he's probably become somewhat more openminded as he started to travel the world. i expected him to be very religious but they've mentioned that he doesn't have daith, i was surprised
No. 76888
>>76886Yes and he speaks with them too. Sometimes they record him. He once spoke with a girls mother too for a bit.
I’m surprised myself because he comes across as a very distant person.
No. 76897
>>76829>>76836I don't give a fuck about fandom colors, but SM's former creative director Min Heejin did move to Big Hit around 1-2 years ago. She pretty much created Shinee and f(x) concepts and visuals from scratch…it's not a stretch to assume Big Hit poached her to do the same things that she did for SM groups
Also, a few years ago, the director of some BTS MV was chosen by Bang PD after he saw that director's work on Red Velvet's Ice Cream Cake video. So Big Hit is most definitely watching SM a bit more closely
No. 76899
>>76897Aka redoing his own SM copycat and becoming the richest company. This just proves SM has the best ideas in the industry so Bang just copies them while playing the "We were nobodies" game. As if…
It's so funny to see how their fans fall for this obvious scam game. But that's not m y problem. I just pity all those who will wake up one day and see through but all their money and time were invested into BigHit's pockets while they'll just be left contemplating the lies they used to believe.
No. 76902
>>76897It was in fact Lee Sooman who came up with the concept of F(c) and a SHINee, he and Kenzie did most of their songs (out of directors and producers in Sm). Min Heejin started out with being a minor part in the visual aspect in SM, such as album covers, jacket photo shoots before she ended up being creative director with much more control which ended in disaster and LSM opted to get her out. Only good coming from her after getting that position was the Why album. Other than that it was a huge mess.
It’s a misconception to say that she came up with the idea of this eccentric concept That F(Shinee) had when LSM was the mastermind behind it, he gets way too little credit.
People credit Heejin for Pink Tape and various Shinee eras but…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Albums_produced_by_Lee_Soo-manhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_KenzieAll she did was follow what they told until she finally got her position among directors and introduced to us the worst era of SM artists.
Lucky one, I just Wanna Dance, Firetruck, Seventh Sense, Free Somebody etc… all so lackluster.
No. 76903
>>76899Throwback when BH ceo said he wanted to recreate his own TVXQ.
The SM blueprint wow. I don’t know what will be off BH after Bts declines
No. 76920
>>76845According to studies it takes about 2 years of studies to be able to have the skills to speak about daily things in a second language, and it takes 5 years to reach actual fluency. You would have to be in a very specific environment to be able to speak more than one language fluently in a short time, but a lot of people don't realize that.
>>76866It really does, like why did it take them a whole year to release that… They should have focused a bit more on the quality both of the songs and the freaking photo album since this might be one of the last albums they release where they can all tour together
>>76870V's been pretty goofy and active compare to others on Weverse like others say, so I think he might be fine. Just his face I guess
No. 76928
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>>76698so was Olivia Hye named that because she resembles Olivia Hussey?
No. 76949
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>>76948Cringe
Btw this Doja Cat tweet is so based lol
No. 76963
So BI has apparently tested negative for drugs and may be innocent?
Sorry if this formats weirdly, my phone is being a bit of a pain.
“ On February 27, a representative from the Gyeonggi Provincial Police Department confirmed with media outlet 'Sports World', "B.I has tested negative in his illegal drug use evaluation. The Gyeonggi police carried out meticulous evaluations by sending B.I's hair follicles to the National Forensics Department, and the results concluded that no illegal drug substances were found."
The representative continued, "B.I's illegal drug use and dealing case has now come to a wraps, and police will be forwarding the case over to prosecution soon."
Back in September of last year, former iKON member B.I participated in a 14-hour long police questioning session where he was investigated for an acquaintance 'A's accusations from 2016. Afterward, B.I admitted to portions of 'A's accusations, resulting in the police labeling B.I as an official 'suspect' and questioning him additionally over a course of 7 investigative sessions.
Back in 2016, 'A' was arrested for charges of illegal drug usage and dealings, where she provided police with evidence of B.I requesting to purchase illegal drugs. However, 'A' has since adjusted her statements, claiming that after discussing drug dealings via text messages, they never met up for B.I to receive the package. Due to 'A's statements, it's likely that police have concluded B.I innocent in his illegal drug dealing charges.
Stay tuned for updates on the ongoing case.’
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/02/police-confirm-that-bi-tested-negative-for-drug-usage-suspected-to-be-innocent-in-illegal-drug-dealing-charges No. 76966
>>76965we know,
>>76953 already posted.
No. 76968
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>>76965Either they're talking shit to keep investors interested, or BP pissed off YG's petty ass, or somebody is getting out of that contract
No. 76969
>>76968Nobody cared much about Rose and Jisoo to begin with, Lisa is "only" SEA and his little princess Jennie successfully managed to drive away any korean fans because she showed again and again what a massive bitch she is. And contrary to western fans, Koreans don't think that being a rude, entitled, spoiled and perpetually late cunt is being a "strong queen!".
His next group needs to be advertised with "prettier than 2ne1 - and nicer than BP" lol
No. 76974
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It's probably the best for Blackpink though at this point, rosés legs look genuinely terrifying.
https://twitter.com/_youimma/status/1232694170831032320 No. 76975
>>76968im guessing lisa is gonna leave and blackpink disbands in 2021
>>76974she lost so much weight that her head looks like a mask… they need ygngg to take their spot soon.
No. 76998
>>76991I haven't kept up with them, but I find the biblical imagery so random.
Also Taehyung is starting to look older, he should ditch the bowl cute and flowerboy aesthetic already.
No. 77004
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>>77003it’s subjective so i get it, but imo there’s nothing ordinary about his looks. i’d say he’s probably in the 98th percentile for male attractiveness. although he’s been looking slightly rougher lately (probably due to drinking)
No. 77008
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>>76995>Communist Manifestoanon I snorted
No. 77010
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>>77002I don't mean it in a negative way, it's just that he lost some babyfat and has a nice jaw (imo) so the long fluffy hair is starting to look weird.
No. 77014
Omfg lol the first cover sounds literally like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_hhOwUisSItragic
No. 77027
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>>77004Absolutely nothing about his face is above average, I'm sorry for you, you must be surrounded by literal monsters.
>>77021>ratmys: they're such precious sensitive baby bois who must be protected from all meanies>also ratmys: let's praise them for still working at the old age of 25Must be nice knowing that stupid fangirls would literally kiss your mediocre millionaire ass for simply breathing.
No. 77028
>>77027Praising the intense choreography = praising breathing? Get your head out of your asshole PLEASE
On the other hand, the lipsyncing was actually really noticeable esp during the rap parts, it’s funny cuz they’ve even recorded the heavy breathing and stuff to make it more believable haha
No. 77029
>>76958Because pretty much any group they will release will get all the BP fans. It's unlikely the two groups will ever go head to head and in reality, BP is still getting paid a ton to basically be models.
If you want guaranteed success you may as well take the risk and try to debut with YG.
No. 77037
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Why do boy groups dance like this now? They all throw around their limbs like they've got no bones
No. 77046
>>77027having oily skin doesnt make his features average
YG new gg seems like a total bust after failing to manage either of their boygroups and whoring bp out to fashionweek frontrows.
the amount of solostans is to be expected with the way theyre promoted
No. 77051
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>>76976this post on her instagram was 1 day ago. i don't know if she edits her pictures to make her legs skinnier than they are though
No. 77054
>>77052I will agree that he used to be average, however in recent years their faces have changed so much that they no longer are attractive. That and under normal lights/camera you can see just how much foundation they cake on which isn't attractive.
Anyway, can you all move past the whole 'he's attractive how dare you say otherwise' thing?
No. 77057
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>>77027you might not personally be attracted to him but acting like he’s not above average is kind of insane, anon. i’ve probably never seen a man this good-looking irl
No. 77059
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what is going on in here?
No. 77060
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
No. 77061
>>77059we’re discussing kpop
>>77060cute
No. 77068
>>77067Honestly I don't know what is going on with all those people who post things of the faves just for the sake of having people taking about them, there's clearly a lot of army and blink in this thread, same goes for the people who are so pressed about idols that they check everything they release at that point better call yourself a fan.
Being obsessed with everything do with celebrities is just plain dumb. I'm not talking about just checking once in a while situation of course.
No. 77069
>>77067Probably is.
This thread is so…Talking about bts is so boring I swear y'all need to just rename this shit "Bts General" because every thread they are the center of discussion. I get they just had a comeback but the anons sperging about how beautiful V is is unnecessary and tired. People posting irrelevant nitpicky nonsense is tired too. Like we get is Jimin has a ugly asf and is Skelly. Same goes for blackpink fans. It's the same stuff everyday.
Sage for obv reasons but I had to get it off my chest.
No. 77077
>>77050I kind of agree that the mv doesn't match the song that much. I think I would have preferred for them to go with something more like the style they had on the dance break without the hoods. I didn't really get that much of a religious vibe from it though. I saw what you say, but I just feel like they r trying to be artsy or something
I don't think I will bother watching it again though
No. 77078
>>77069endless metashitting is the most tiresome part of this general. if you’re bored of a topic, don’t engage with it and post about other things you’d prefer to talk about.
and not saying you did this because you didn’t, but other posts whining about ratmys and people talking about their faves don’t really have a place here anymore. this is kpg, not kpop critical. it says right at the top of the thread
> This thread is no longer just the critical thread. So stop bitching if someone starts fangirling. This is now the general kpop thread as well, not your personal safespace No. 77083
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BigHit officially released a statement canceling the 4 Seoul concerts that they were gonna have this April. It was only a matter of time, but still.
I wonder how many more they will have to cancel with countries banning flights from SK and what not? I am kind of somewhat annoyed that they added how many concert goers they expected to have. Was that really necessary?
No. 77084
>>76835>its not kpop criticalweren't the two threads MERGED aka we can say whatever we want kek?
bts look like botched trannies, please cure your mental illness soon
No. 77097
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>>77078>posts whining about ratmys and people talking about their faves don’t really have a place here anymore. this is kpg, not kpop critical. it says right at the top of the thread>This thread is no longer just the critical thread. So stop bitching if someone starts fangirling. This is now the general kpop thread as well, not your personal safespace>not your personal safespaceSame goes for you. Also, if you're so keen on quoting, don't leave out the 2nd part
>At the same time don't get butthurt if the other farmers doesn't have the same opinion you do.We can call your Oppars fug as much as we want too. Better than 98 percent my ass, do you live in bridge troll nation? Without money all of you'd call them incels. Rightfully lol
But despite their millions they still manage to look gross…
No. 77098
>>77097>Without money all of you'd call them incels. Rightfully lolParroting shitty male talking point, cringe.
No one care that you can't handle other people finding them attractive, stop sperging.
No. 77100
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>>77098>not thinking that this specimen is "in the 98th percentile for male attractiveness" means you're a jelly manSexist twinks with awful skin who already started balding as teens usually aren't really seen as peek handsome by anyone, you know…
No. 77102
>>77100cmon their skin isn't that bad lol
i see worse everyday most people dont have perfect skin
No. 77105
the “critical” people itt seem much more delusional and mentally ill than the “fangirls.” ranting about how v and jungkook are hideous plastic abominations that no one could ever possibly find attractive because they had a pimple once in 2015 and the only way you could like them is if you have terminal yellow fever is retarded and detached from reality.
>>77083i wondered about this when they announced an additional date. why would you sell tickets for an extra show when you’re about to cancel the seoul concerts and the virus is about to hit the US? i think it’s almost certain the american dates will get cancelled. i can’t imagine they’re going to allow huge gatherings of people in stadiums from april to june.
No. 77115
>>77097You can say whatever you feel like but people have the right to disagree with you, it’s that simple. No reason to get mad or defensive.
They wouldn’t be as popular as they are nor would they be considered as attractive if they weren’t famous, but that’s the case with like 90% of celebs.
Personally I don’t mind it if a guy isn’t perfect or has flawless skin and most girls I know don’t care either. A good body and a relatively handsome face will get you a long way.
No. 77123
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>>77057Above average Korean males are Kang Dongwon, Wonbin, Jang Donggun, Jung Woosung, Go Soo, Jo Insung and Lee Dongwook.
V has hella stage makeup, is like 5’9, and has idol styling. Take away all that and give him a average job. He would just be a nice looking Korean male at best.
No. 77124
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>>77112That gif is from 2014, I think he was 17 at that time. His skin is looking better lately.
No. 77125
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>>77123Are you older or something? I don't know who this dude is, but I wouldn't call him above average in any country of the world.
No. 77128
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>>77125Kang Dongwon is still the most famous movie actor in Korea, what do you mean “are you old” lmfao.
His features are indeed rare to see in a Korean though, he looks like he is Chinese imo.
Here’s a picture from his university days.
You won’t see a Korean man with a face and height like that everyday.
https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/cha-eunwoo-kang-dong-won-face-visuals/https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2016/01/enter-talk-im-in-awe-with-every.htmlBasically Cha Eunwoo of his days.
No. 77130
>>77123you can’t just say take away being 5’9 and he’d be less attractive… duh but that’s his natural height. sure women would find him less attractive if he were a manlet but then he’d be a different person so it’s not a relevant point of contention.
also even without stage makeup and styling he’d still be above average in basically every country. where do you guys live that you can go outside and 4 out of 10 guys you encounter are better looking than v?
No. 77133
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>>77125Pure madness luv, you lot have to be out of your mind to call V above average but this man isn’t … get OUT
No. 77136
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>>77130Do you lot go out at all? Like are you surronded by fuglies all the time?
There’s tens of cute looking Asian guys I’ve met, Afghani, Filipino, Vietnamese etc. I’d say compare makeup less V to them and they’d stomp on him. Like …. Y’all are gassing him up cause he is a celebrity.
Minho literally stomped on him when they were in Hwarang together
No. 77138
>>77133this guy is also above average for the general population of men but i don’t really find him that handsome and definitely not more handsome than v.
>>77136v is mogging minho here though. i’ve never thought minho was that goodlooking to begin with anyway. but also he’s still above average for males. again, where do you live that most men look equally as or more attractive than these people?
No. 77140
>>77130>where do you guys live that you can go outside and 4 out of 10 guys you encounter are better looking than v?not on the internet that's for damn sure
possible bait aside, some of yall anons need to get off your high horses about what celebrities yall find attractive. They're not going to notice you for you continued stanning. Why do you need others to validate your feelings.
>>77076i know another anon already answred you but don't forget, she broke/fractured her hip, she's gonna be gone for most, if not the whole year recovering.
No. 77143
>>77138How hard is it to believe that there are men better looking than V. Literally just go out
But I live in Europe, tons of good looking Asian dudes. Mostly Filipino or Afghani. South East or West Asian.
No. 77147
>>77142Nobody is debating attraction away, it’s just he isn’t above average in anyway. He’s just a handsome dude, not every good looking guy needs to be above average.
I do admit he is nice to look at though.
No. 77150
>>77147to me someone being handsome is already above average. if a guy is handsome then he’s better looking than most men. so i don’t follow this line of thinking.
>>77144i’m confused because they added an additional rose bowl date in the midst of all this. why do that unless they’re confident that they’re going to tour in the US? but from my perspective i just don’t see the tour happening here at all. no way will coronavirus have miraculously resolved itself before the tour dates begin.
No. 77153
>>77149eunwoo looks like a lizard
dont get the hype
hes not ugly but v looks much more natural than guys like taeyong and eunwoo and his darker skin makes him better looking imo
No. 77154
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http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/02/popular-singers-staff-member-testing.htmlSo if a staff member is infected, that means there is a high chance of Chungha getting infected as well? And everybody overseas they were in contact with, airplane people etc.
Wtf.
Now I’m not mad she got yelled at during FW for spreading corona lmfao… wtf.
No. 77156
>>77155Then you’re just biased lol.
Get out of your bubble if you think V >>>>>>>> everybody else. Some of y’all need to get laid for real.
No. 77157
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>>77153The gag is, Cha Eunwoo is natural and V got work done :9
But I agree he be looking really weird nowadays, like almost constipated.
He needs to get back to how he used to look like, most preferably like during Gangnam Beuaty.
He looked fugly in his new Netflix series, he doesn’t fit the hanbok.
(:9) No. 77158
>>77156what is this argument lol, only virgins would find v attractive? by most idol standards he’s more tall/tan/masculine-looking, it’s really not that weird. also everyone is biased because attraction is subjective
>>77155idk much about this situation but you can remain asymptomatic for weeks and still spread the infection to other people during that time. so i wouldn’t blame someone for unknowingly spreading it. they might not have had any idea they were sick. the woman in california who tested positive hadn’t even traveled overseas and no one knows where she got it
No. 77161
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>>77157maybe he got some minor work done but i don’t think v looks like he’s had plastic surgery tbh. what do you think he did?
No. 77162
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>>77156Of course I'm biased, attraction is subjective, so…
This guys is not ugly, but he looks really scrawny and the lower part of his face is very small in a bad way, he looks weak.
No. 77163
>>77158V is not masculine cause he got a tan.
Wonder what that makes me as a dark skinned woman lololol.
He looks like a twink, that’s why some of y’all need to get laid for realz.
Not hating but he looks like a kid next to some people. Masculine guys in KPOP would be TOP, Taecyeon etc.
But like you and some other anons said everybody has their own taste but let’s not act as if he is oh so masculine and above average in looks. Beauty is subjective but he definitely isn’t more good looking than Cha Eunwoo. I don’t even like the dude and I admit he is far more good looking that my faves.
No. 77164
>>77158The staff member probably got infected by a local person that didn’t know they had the virus.
There’s a lot of cases in Italy right now.
No. 77165
>>77163Personally I don’t really find masculine guys that attractive, I’ve always had a thing for twinks. Compared to my beloved Timothee, V looks a bit rough dare I say?
Attraction is super subjective, that’s what this conversation proves.
The Astro guy is objectively handsome though, come on anons.
No. 77167
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>>77163i don’t think his tan skin is what makes him look more masculine. he has a broader frame, stronger jawline, more prominent brow ridge, thicker eyebrows, etc. than most male idols who look more fem. just compare him to jimin, jin, jungkook… all of whom look a lot more feminine. v gets styled feminine cause that’s the look they go for these days but if he were styled the way 2pm was i wouldn’t say he looks like a feminine twink
>>77164what’s scary to think about is how many people are walking around right now carrying the virus without any idea
No. 77169
>>77167That’s exactly what Italian scientists just said, it was around for a while.
Nobody is safe, no country.
No. 77175
>>77173Every agency does that with atleast one group.
Maybe except SM but now that I think about it TVXQ was a carbon copy of Hot.. yeah.
No. 77180
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i saw a ratmy call this buff… i feel like they have forgotten what actual muscular men look like
No. 77181
>>77176They all sound like shit tho esp V. Why does his voice always sound like a mix between an old, severely dehydrated man and someone who got a bag of dicks lodged in their throat.
>>77180Oh wtf his arm mirrors that of a underweight 12 yr old child.
No. 77194
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>>77154>Now I’m not mad she got yelled at during FW for spreading corona lmfao?
>>77161He looks nothing like his old self, he slowly but surely got every single feature and his entire face shape redone.
So many ratmyfags here calling a twink like him tall, manly or even broad really makes me think you must be underage. Only little girls get excited because of the tiniest hint of muscle definition. He's always styled super feminine and looks like a little kid (with the face of an aunt) next to other korean men.
No. 77195
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>>77194Imagine thinking the one on the right is what grown men are supposed to look like. Everything about him and the rest of bts looks weird.
No. 77200
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Let's end this discussion once and for all. The left is supposed to be the average Korean male face. The right is V with no make up on. What is the consensus anons?
No. 77203
>>77200Obviously the anons weren’t comparing him to the average Korean male.
More like comparing his looks to other celebrities.
No. 77204
>>77203no, the first anon that hopped on the v is average train said this:
> Absolutely nothing about his face is above average, I'm sorry for you, you must be surrounded by literal monsters.implying that people you’re surrounded by in everyday life are better looking.
No. 77209
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Throwback to this picture
No. 77210
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>>77207he's been overfilled, his face is more angular naturally but koreans are so insistent on wanting baby faces that they've made his face fucking round despite him not particularly gaining weight (also peep his 5head)
No. 77215
>>77210Who cares, he’s fuckable and that’s all that counts.
Kylie Jenner is plastic as hell but nobody cares.
No. 77229
>>77225Why do you people care about which idol makes whom wet?
She wants his dick, end of story.
No. 77238
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>>77210V's face looks angular when he tilts his head down or more square/round
when he is looking up. the pic from 2014 his chin looks square
No. 77239
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>>77210pic from 2017 where his face looks angular.
he is not constantly getting ps to make his jaw angular or square
No. 77241
>>77161He's had obvious ear pinning and some fillers from time to time.
idk about his nose, it seems smaller in album photos nowadays but it could b photoshop.
No. 77244
this former gg idol cheska from loen was dishing all kind of tea on how she was bullied by her team and the company forcing her to get ps to debut, guilt tripping her to sign a contract when underage
also how idols get competitive over the smallest stuff.
really long thread
https://twitter.com/candygirlsmp3/status/1233151687143108610?s=19 No. 77248
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>>77241i think nowadays he usually wears his hair over the top part of his ears so they look smaller
No. 77249
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v not fugly. case closed.
can we move on already
No. 77251
>>77205Exo got shit on because of that for a fairly long time (until ~2014/2015) but now with BTS and Twice being the top groups korean kpop fans can't really talk about that anymore lol I guess they just accept that nowadays everybody is useless.
>>77206>nor should theyIf an idol is ugly one shouldn't say it, if they had ps it's completely normal and a-okay, and if they can't sing for shit one also shouldn't care? How do you suggest we decide who gets to be an idol then?
>>77242Your general thread was literally dead before admin made the wonderful decision of merging them…
No. 77253
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Aside from that cursed V argument…
I predict Twice will disband in a couple years, due to a their concept having a short lifespan and members wilding out. Who has the potential as a solo?
No. 77256
>>77254yeah no one comes to mind
some of them probably have a shot at variety because they seem likable but im not familiar enough to point out one person
No. 77265
>>77263Ugh, not to nostalgiafag but I feel like it wasn't like this in the past. Idol groups are so boring now and I feel like before you could have ugly/average idols in groups who you still rooted for because they were talented or at least likable. Now it all seems like style over substance and it clearly shows when all groups (especially boy groups) look and sound literally the same.
Sorry that was unrelated to your point, but I had to sperg after being shown 4 different idol groups by my roommate and seeing them all go for that dark/sexy/dance concept and have weird small white puffy faces. I know it's always been looks over talent but now it just seems incredibly more so.
No. 77268
>>77249i think we can move on faster if we stop talking about it period. its okay if someone else thinks he's ugly v wont read this thread lmao
>>77253jihyo jeongyeon and nayeon will have the most 'success' with solo work since they are the only ones with any form of technique while singing but they'd all flop quickly. sana and momo could possibly do gravure work but momo is dating so thats out the window. and tzuyu could gain a personality and act as the cute ditsy love interest.
No. 77271
>>77265I kind of disagree because groups with somewhat "ugly" members like bts and bigbang/2ne1 mamamoo still end up being the most successful/"legendary"
exo was one of the last visual groups that has talent but sm been screwing them over for nct
i think the biggest problem is companies valuing quantity over quality and churning out new groups every year
This doesnt give them time to build an actual solid image and convince fans of their distinct personalities and 'it factor' since every group serves as a quick cash cow before making room for the next one.
The best way to attract kpoppies without putting to much effort into substance is by sending all their little ducklings to get botched before debut
the only thing ive been seeing recently is stans gushing about their nugu groups with "no visual holes" under pictures of bloated 17 yr olds with the same waxy skin and botox grins.
they will all age terribly and disband before they get to powerful to make demands.
No. 77295
>>77244This kinda reminds me of what Stellar went through to a certain degree.
I didn't watch all of it yet but really everything I heard her say and what I read in the thread is not surprising. This is another reason why I don't really resonate with kpop no more anyway.
>>77253Maybe Nayeon and I'm only saying that because shes real popular for some reason right?
>>77265
>Now it all seems like style over substance and it clearly shows when all groups (especially boy groups) look and sound literally the same. You're absolutely right. There's no flavor nowadays. It's all the same nonsense.
No. 77296
>>77266>idk, 2ne1 couldn’t really sing. t-ara couldn’t really sing. kara couldn’t really sing. groups like snsd that have legit vocal chops (among some members…) seem to be the exception not the rule. But members of those groups back then still had some kind of individual success, they were much more known to the general public than the members of nowadays groups, also because of variety shows like you mentioned. Maybe instagram/youtube/vlive as an easy way to promote stopped companies from trying to push their idols on tv. I remember seeing an old snsd interview and they said they had to come up with a new "talent" every single week, so that later they seemed more interesting and memorable to the viewers. Of course the images were fake, but at least everybody was given some kind of role or "personality" to make them stand out.
>>77271>i think the biggest problem is companies valuing quantity over quality and churning out new groups every yearThis is pretty obvious. If you take dbsk for example, they matched so well, in looks, even height, everybody had a slightly different voice but they harmonized well, there was clearly put in a lot of time and effort to find and train them. God knows through how many trainees they went to find the "perfect" combination. Bad example, but Bigbang and especially GD was also an instant success. They choose the right debut song and everything else matched too.
Now you just have companies throwing in an odd number of members and copying already known concepts of other groups. Especially for gg they're getting more and more low effort because they think that uncle fans will buy shit no matter what, instead of trying to grant their idols somewhat longterm success.
No. 77297
>>76902Unrelated to BH but I'm pretty sure the "magic" of SM groups is all based upon Yoo Young-jin's songs. It's too bad that they've phased YYJ out in recent years bc Kenzie is responsible for pieces of garbage like Wolf, Obsession, RBB, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoo_Young-jinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Kenzie>>76940Her English name should have been Sidney for Sid the Sloth.
>>77080The youngest member with the green hair looks like Wooseok. It's uncanny that they're from the same company, even moreso since he's far too young to have had plastic surgery.
>>77193I'm an old 2NE1 fan and unfortunately I think these trainees' vocals are more impressive than 3/4 of 2NE1's raw vocals (only Minzy coulg sing well by 2014), and 4/4 of BlackPink. Maybe you're new but YG has no regard for vocal technique and wants ~style~ with dangerous technique which is why Park Bom's voice deteriorated to shit.
>>77200Having visited Korea, V is good looking and unique by what I saw of the general populace of men there. However, he's not that great of a ~visual~ for a celebrity. He's just in the most famous group atm which is why he's so hyped; there's a dozen of nugu boy groups with a dude that's more attractive of any of the members of BTS. Same with Twice or Blackpink compared to other GGs.
The only exception I'd make is the PD groups because they have a variety of kids to choose from different agencies, and the audience generally chooses the best looking ones to debut. For instance, I think Izone is shit but Jang Wonyoung has freakishly perfect looks and the hype around her beauty is something I understand (but she's actually half Taiwanese, lmfao).
No. 77299
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It's crazy how much naturally better looking idols were back in the late 90s. Nowadays a face like this is only in dramas; I have to blame it on the market becoming oversaturated and plastic surgery becoming more advanced.
No. 77303
>>77281this is what the mods wanted, let them deal with it.
>>77298isn't this like the 3rd group jyp has tried to send overseas and failed? Not that Twice has failed yet, but I don't really them getting too big internationally…
how much money are they pulling in (above and under the table) to keep funding this mess
No. 77304
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>>77297Wonyoung might be super pretty but debuting somebody so young is just wrong. She's still gonna be attractive (likely much more so) once she's an adult.
Speaking of izone, to me they're probably the most mismatched group ever, they look so weird together, especially Wonyoung and that one tiny japanese girl stand out way too much. There's no way people who look so different could ever suit the same concept.
>>77300They're totally unsuccessful. But if you like Eunwoo you can try and watch his awful acting in dramas lol
No. 77309
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>>77300They sold 120k copies of their last album so they're not that nugu. Doesn't NCT 127 sell less?
No. 77324
On the topic of twice, mina looked so stiff in this fancam from last week. i wonder why she didnt just leave the group and brush up her skills for a japanese solo debut when their contract ends. theres no point in wasting her time being there if shes going to be stiff, be miserable, and lipsync
>>77315its not even the fact that they're newfags, they're just retarded. when i was new i used my common sense and put the youtube link next the word….youtube (crazy concept guys, i know)
No. 77327
>>77326Then why is Jimin not doing his best? I think the virus might be messing with their heads. They’re losing money and fans with how they handled the Seoul cancellations. Maybe they’re worried about their families too.
But you made a good point about JK wanting to do his best cause he wants to stay in the industry.
No. 77338
>>77087So far the US is not very affected by the virus, but travel to South Korea is currently on a Level 3 warning: only go if you must, re-think travel plans. Basically, they are kind of trying to close the door on Korea like some other countries are doing. If, and only if, that were to happen, before the concert date it would be kind of hard for them to get over here with their huge Korean crew and at least not face any sort of repercussion for it. Or at least that is what I think, honestly idk~ The thing is, before this announcement some people were saying "oh, they are just going to postpone the concert, they wouldn't cancel it!" but they did cancel it. I feel like anything could happen at this point
No. 77344
>>77338They were dumb to come back to korea to do irrelevant music shows. IU doesnt subject herself to this bafoonery, they should follow that.
Now they'll have to be at least quarantined before re-entering in the US. They might lose 14 working days for it. Dumb dumb dumb.
No. 77346
>>77344Yeah they don’t need music shows anymore
they’re BTSpop lol jk
No. 77351
>>77348And IU is still kpop no matter how hard she pushes for the coffeeshop ~artiste~ image. retarded fandom name and lightstick included in her idol packaging.
Neither BTS nor IU needs to promo on evening cable tv music shows to make bank tho. There are more profitable and efficient ways of catering to BTS' middle schoolers fans. That's just a fact.
No. 77368
>>77362Ofc it's about pleasing their fans, that's why anon said there are more efficient ways to do so; fans weren't even allowed into those music shows because of the virus. The hateboner makes some of you clinically retarded.
The shows were due in April and the situation is SK has been a shitstorm for a while. Big Hit money hunger ass also shouldn't have opened ticketing this week only to cancel it a couple days after.
They shouldn't have opened ticketing or should've waited until late march to see if the outbreak is stabilized.
No. 77369
>>77368What ways exactly? If they weren’t gonna come back at all, when their USA shows don’t start for two months, Kfans would be too upset to handle and I don’t think they wanna lose their most obsessed fan base. It’s a matter of principle for them to promote in Korea, even if the shows are without an audience.
Also, I’m concerned that USA might decide to cancel all massive events in the future for preventative reasons. That’s what European countries are doing now, even though the number of cases is very low in most of them.
So either way, they can’t know for sure what’s gonna happen within those two months.
No. 77371
>>77367They have multiple platforms to let their inner faggot out and showcase to fans. That's how they afforded not attending variety shows.
They probably just keep doing because there is some sort of quid pro quo scenario with the broadcasts, not because of fear of backlash from fans.
No. 77372
>>77371That’s why they go in the first place, but that’s the way it has been for years.
Staying in USA for months would be like saying “sorry, it’s too dangerous for us but you guys and our families can perish”. It’s not a good image.
No. 77381
>>77375Idk at this point. This era is a mess and the songs are weak af maybe it's better be done with it already.
It's just more embarrassing that they're wasting colossal US promo on it tho. Not sure if they'll have the same opportunity in the future.
No. 77387
>>77382It's a waste cuz aint them converting anybody into fans or making anyone buy their music with that shitty material. They're never repeating carpool karaoke or having another fallon special episode so it's a shame that they got this chance with their worst album in years.
You're right that they might actually not come up with anything better in the future tho, they just could at least try kek
No. 77391
>>77388I never said that kek the era as a whole stinks
But BWL was a better title bc the song is at least catchy. They also had that Ed Sheeran song which I personally hate with all my guts but know objectively that it's more radio friendly. They should've done a full eng version of it tho but they keep up with this faux korean pride.
No. 77415
>>77409Their first success was I Need U, which was emo but not preachy. Blood Sweat and Tears was kinda along the same lines as was Spring Day so I guess the Korean public likes music like that
Sound aside, the songs have to be catchy above all else - Fire was pure noise and still did well because people could dance to it. BWL is also pretty easy listening. This CB has no song that could draw casual audiences in, especially not casual Western audiences despite being packed with Western producers
No. 77418
>>77415I don’t know, I think on is much catchier and less stupid than bwl. Also I might be the only one that finds spring day a juvenile song. I originally thought it was one of their first.
To me mic drop was the catchier one and fake love was good too.
No. 77443
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>>77433He's a dancer and apparently a DJ? The company at least seems aware of his lack of looks as most of his photos have him in hats. Convenient.
No. 77463
>>77443Atleast he doesn’t look like he is struggling with being on stage, the rest of members sure did.
Watched them live on Kbs Music Bank this morning and the rest of the members facial expressions were terrible.
No. 77465
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Vixx Hongbin have landed himself into the hot water. Apparently he had a live stream where he was drunk and started shitting on SHINee's Everybody, insulted Red velvets Red flavour calling it too "idolish" , made a dig at Exo's wolf and said Infinites Be mine choreography was bad and would have beaten their choreography. Someone is gonna see himself out the door soon. I wonder how their company is gonna damage control this mess.
https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/heres-everything-vixxs-hongbin-said-exo-red-velvet-in-drunk-livestream/ No. 77466
>>77465i didn't hear about the rest of the things, but the shinee thing was
valid. love shinee, but the clip he watched was a shitty mashup a fan made of everybody and a digimon opening. it sounded like two loud songs playing at the same time because that's exactly what it was.
No. 77467
>>77466samefag; the red velvet song is a fan remix too.
maybe part of him just wanted to nuke his idol career and get tf out. but now he won't be able to do much without like 7 separate fandoms going after him.
No. 77471
>>77465Wtf kpop fans love cancelling people over the dumbest shit and then they wonder why they commit suicide.
Dude said nothing bad, its not like he personally insulted them or something like that.
He just said that he didn't like the choreography/fanmade mashup of some songs.
Kpop fans please calm your tits.
No. 77511
>>77499no matter what you might say about them, i believe their chemistry is real no matter the amount of fan service that plays into it.
People being convinced that they secretly hate each other sound almost as delulu as hardcore shippers.
And i dont mean you specifically.
Ratmy out.
No. 77524
>>77517live nation ceo said a billion ppl hit their website the day tickets went on sale. Even with people using multiple devices thats insane
Also youtube did delete a huge amount of views for 'on'
(10 mil views in the first hour and then 35 mil in the next 22 hrs should make everyone wonder, they went from 48mil to 43mil right in front of my eyes) but im only a humble armybot so what do i know
>>i know you guys love to complain about the ratmys on this thread but its y'all that bring them up every single day. More ppl on here that complain about the hype than ppl actually hyping them.on another note i wonder how the industry is dealing with the corona crisis internally, like if an idol gets infected irrational fans will be furious and blame the company lol
No. 77534
>>77524You know YouTube deletes bot views, right? Not just for BTS but other people as well? I thought army wanted organic Kings or w/e?
>>77520They did good. Hate em but meh. Def didn't sell out as quick in ATL some others, tho.
No. 77541
>>77524>live nation ceo said a billion ppl hit their website the day tickets went on sale. Even with people using multiple devices thats insaneHow fucking gullible are you, honestly? Use a little common sense, mediaplay is usually ridiculous but claiming 1/7th of the world tried to buy BTS tickets… lmao that is next level bullshit.
>>77517Every popular idol group has loud fans who buy multiple copies of an album, the playing field is even and comparisons between groups are usually accurate (barring certain sales gimmicks). It's an accurate measure of fandom buying power if not the exact number of fans. "Popularity" can be a pretty meaningless metric because it's like, what's better - 1,000,000 people loving a song and streaming it for a few cents each, and getting good CF deals as a result? Or 100,000 people loving a group and spending big money on concert tickets and merch, for years and years? Different types of celebs will go for different forms of success because it's all about money in the end.
No. 77558
>>77541>100,000 people loving a group and spending big money on concert tickets and merch, for years and years?In earlier days fans had to be really invested to support their favs. Dbsk's fanclub had close to a million members - which might sound quite little compared to the 20+ million followers that many nowadays idols get, but clicking the follow button on insta or twitter doesn't mean shit. Those fans might like or watch or even stream their stuff but other than that maybe never spend a single dollar on that group.
Rock bands sell shit these days, barely get any views or followers but they're still able to perform in front of 10000s of concert goers when they're in their 60s, kpop groups won't be able to do that. They also won't be making bank with beauty commercials once they're older. Having a good core fanbase and taking care of them, making sure they stay with you is the most important thing for an artist.
No. 77594
>>77559>even TVXQ is beginning to fade outTVXQ are going to be able to play concerts in Japan for at least a few decades to come. Maybe not always dome tours, maybe Korea will forget about them entirely, but the concert going culture in Japan is so strong they likely will never struggle to get a profitable audience.
They really struck gold with Japan though, it's a unique market and not every group can rely on that. Some other SM boy groups might be able to, and Bigbang if they ever decide to tour there again, but for other idol groups it's harder to say. BTS's western fanbase will not have longevity because it's just not the culture here, kids will grow up or move onto the next big thing.
No. 77597
>>77596After hundreds of comments asking why he didn’t donate to his own home town he did.
Bet you half of these stars wouldn’t donate had netizens not put so much pressure on them.
No. 77612
>>77609i don't know who is
we but no
No. 77624
>>77609I think Red Velvet has the most interesting discography, and the members have their unique charms (Wendy can sing, Irene is pretty, Joy is good on variety, Seulgi can dance, Yeri can be funny) but if you look at them as a group:
Mamamoo is better at singing
Gfriend/Twice are better at dancing
The only good 3rd gen girl group rapper is LE but almost all of them are better than Irene and Yeri
No. 77626
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who thought uploading these photos to the internet for millions of people to see was a good idea? he looks like a drunk aunt
are their fans blind or just pitying the ugly bastards at this point?
source:
https://twitter.com/BTS_twt/status/1234402089154957319 No. 77632
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I was just watching random group stuff interview comebacks when izone shows up , wtf happened to yuri? It looks like someone broke her nose.
No. 77635
>>77626Why is he doing that weird open mouth look
Also he looks 14 here
No. 77642
>>77524>>77541I'd maybe believe a billion clicks due to people refreshing pages, and clicking thru each screen as part of the checkout process…and I imagine many clicks from bloggers, news outlets etc keeping tabs on how many tix are being sold in what sections or whatever, so they can report on what's available to their readers? But no, 1/7 of the world's population did not access livenation on one day lmao.
>>77609This is literally the only place on the internet where it's safe to talk critically about kpop (at least without paragraphs and paragraphs of explanation, justification and "I don't mean to be negative or offend anyone BUT…" qualifiers, which get sooo tiring to read) You are free to access literally any one of those sites, but you have to come in here and derail the thread with this spergy fangirl nonsense? Mods, please do something.
No. 77644
>>77609If I had to choose, it'd be RV for sure. Their dancing isn't great, but their songs are better than most GGs.
And I actually don't hate Izone. They're much more entertaining to me than Twice and BP. They perform better than the latter two imo.
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>>77626 did he get surgery to look like the guy who got surgery to look like him? love it when people appreciate their fans!
No. 77648
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>>77564Sowon is naturally thin, you can tell based on her proportions, height, head size etc. Her face/body are so unusual for SK it's pretty obvious why she got to be an idol w almost zero dance/vocal talent
Do some reading on the kibbe body system or similar..Rose has obviously forced her weight well under her set point, that's why she looks so unnatural. Predebut pic attached (tho I don't think anyone needs this photo to understand what I'm saying…it should be obvious unless you're 12 yrs old)
Also, slightly o/t and nobody asked but I agree with whoever said a while back they believe sowon and tzuyu both are taller than what's officially reported. Boy idol heights are skewed a bit high and girl idols skew a bit low but with these two it's really obvious to me?
No. 77649
>>77633I doubt this is true. Mina is the only Japanese member who hasn’t had any controversy regarding being Japanese.
On a related note, I feel like Japanese members of kpop groups must feel at least a little weird about the Korea-Japan relationship. I wonder if any of them have ever gotten hate from a group member.
No. 77654
>>77644RV is considered the SK Legendary group, only idol girl group to be invited to NK since Baby VOX.
Not exactly sure what makes Red Velvet special.
No. 77666
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>>77609In regards to mr removed videos they win over Twice and BP. Mamamoo might be better vocally but they're entire shtick is so different that you can't even really compare them. And none of the other, newer groups are really successful.
>>77646Kek I'm waiting for somebody to finally say this aloud, they totally resemble each other
>>77648All of them look cute here (although Lisa is quite skinny already), natural simply always wins. Also proves the theory that companies' favourites are always allowed to keep their hair dark while other members are forced into shitty hair colours.
I do believe that many female idols are a lot taller than they state. Sowon easily looks 5'10 (and also like those girls who are just naturally awfully skelly…no idea why they'd find that cute). Tzuyu also looks a lot larger, she even seems broader and heavier bonewise (e.g. her hips), I bet she has a hard time staying thin. Her body is more "western" than Somi's, she just looks like a bigger girl.
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oh the irony
No. 77673
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The top comment from an article that talked about Hara's brother
>TO HARA, JONGHYUN, SULLI AND THE PEOPLE WHO'VE ENDED THEIR LIVES:BE HAPPIER
How? They're all fucking dead. You don't feel anything when you're dead.
No. 77690
>>77687i'm sure everyone's sick of the "ree nct ugly" posts by now but god why does this sm group have worse visuals than stray kids
anyway this concept would have suited ten and lucas so well
No. 77700
>>77693I remembered reading this name before and turns out there was a pann article translated about him. Korean girls' ideal type really seems to be gay men, the comments calling him handsome underneath his videos get 1000s of likes.
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/08/teen-stories-kids-i-seriously.html?m=1>Most of foreigner who react to kpop just do it so they can get subscribers and some quick cash >I searched up his Instagram and his selcas are no joke>He's just reacting in an oba way so he can get some quick cash. That's why I never watch foreigners' reaction videos>Looks like a lot of people went to follow him after seeing this post. He made an Insta story about it, so cute>>77697I wonder if all these hated koreaboos actually really are as obsessed with Korea as they pretend to. Making cash by somewhat fitting their beauty standards (example: random asmr video getting flooded with korean comments because "handsome boy!") or reacting to videos by kissing idol ass is just too easy.
No. 77705
>>77690They legit look way better than Stray Kids, albeit not so good looking for an SM group.
But 7\9 in Stray Kids are below 174 cm, dont do that to NCT lol. Theyre annoying to look at but not that ugly to be considered worse looking than SKZ.
No. 77715
>>77714Those sites are simply always translating korean comments as closely as possible? No big deal. It only gets cringe if kboos copy that way of speech.
>>77690Nct are plastic, mediocre and underage looking but Stray Kids are shockingly ugly. Same for Ateez (that guy somebody keeps spamming…)
Thinking about it, there's hardly any group or male idol in general who's really attractive.
No. 77716
>>77697Oh yes I also know of this guy I saw some of his videos and he started going into the cringe "dying my hair/wearing earrings" phase that most reactors go through. He acts like he's in love with Lisa (like almost every other male reactor) but I really doubt he's straight. He's kind of cute in his older videos, but he has such an awkward aura about him that's so off putting. Like I have this feeling he's into some weird shit.
They just hype things up so much unnecessarily, same as the Deacs guy I shared previously.
No. 77717
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>>77716I need to share this evolution of a reactor I did on a previous thread lol please stop with the kpop fashion. You look and will ALWAYS look like shit honey.
No. 77718
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>>77696well wake up, fatass
No. 77723
>>77720I was one of the anons in favor of merging, but just don't start spamming shit. I hated the V discussion too. I agree with that other anon, don't spam your fav idol here because it's annoying. There's a thread for that. If you have any news about Lucas or something to add about him go ahead. But don't spam photos of him.
Also that other anon has a right to complain in THIS thread that the spamming is annoying as much as you have a right to spam Lucas in the idol thread.
No. 77727
>>77722>like what gave them the right to use a derogatary term against Korean men lolLmao Did that korean man happen to be Seungri…? In the case of hannam I don't mind commenters using that word at all (and I think koreans do neither), since it's a single word that perfectly encompasses trash, sexists, rapist, whatever you need for the users of the "golden phone".
There are a billion more annoying words/phrasings kboos use.
>>77724Imo actors have always looked better.
>>77726Omg not Lucas?!?! How is that possible?! kek Someone protect these posters from our resident Lucas spamming retard.
No. 77728
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Speaking of nct, k-nctzens favor Jaehyun and Jungwoo looks the most. I get Jaehyun but Jungwoo?
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/03/enter-talk-choose-3-members-from-nct.html No. 77732
>>77721>still harping about the "fatshaming"aging taemincel who had a mental breakdown in the spam thread comeback stage hue
>>77723>spammingI posted one picture, calm down.
No. 77739
>>77729>>77732Quit embarrassing yourself, no nctfag should ever call somebody new or from twitter.
And thinking that using fatty as a retort is funny…I guess you learn from your dear leader Taeyong.
You making the spam thread your personal Lucas shrine is annoying enough, please at least spare us here.
No. 77742
>>77687Not sure if this counts as an unpopular opinion, but does anyone else think it would've been way better if SM just debuted NCT 127 as its own group and trashed the subunits concept? I feel like they should've just debuted Taeyong, Johnny, Yuta, Mark, Haechan, Jungwoo, Doyoung, Taeil, and Jaehyun as NCT in 2016, debuted all the Chinese members as their own thing in WayV, then just keep NCT Dream as part of SM rookies until NCT gains enough traction in 4/5-ish years and then debut NCT Dream as NCT's own younger brother group (similar to what SHINee was for SJ/DBSK). So many of the gripes that NCT fans have about the group could have been solved if they just kept WayV, NCT 127, and NCT Dream stable and separate.
No. 77746
>>77739liking one former ncflop member doesn't make me an nctfag, ham constellation. I only found out about lucas
because of lolcow like 2 years ago.
done with this retarded back and fourth now. taemin is fucking ugly. bye
No. 77751
>>77667>>77666So Im not even basing it off when they stand by landmarks or even other idols, bc the boys may have lifts and the girls may have heels that look deceptively higher or lower than they are, also there's photoshop, also there's how they're standing, posture, etc.
I'm basing this purely off being tall myself and years noticing other tall people and their proportions, and noting how clothes hang on them and myself. I think Tzuyu is
at least 5'8"…and i think sowon is at least 5'9" but may even be close to 5'10". GF are often noted for being an unusually tall group overall, and I could see their mngmt deliberately skewing ALL their heights lower, either for consistency or to avoid suspicion, and keeping just shorty eunha listed as her real height or maybe even a slightly artificially-increased height.
>>77672Have you even read the discussion you're replying to? If you're going to be that lazy don't bother giving your unwanted opinion, you drag down the thread for everyone.
No. 77771
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Well well well. I could ALWAYS tell Jei was a bitch by the way she acted. But I am shocked that Yezi was one too. Then again I didnt follow Fiestar extensively. I will reply to this post with cliff notes of gossip from Cheska(former member), she speaks about the bullies in her own group as well as some other juicy stuff on her twitch which is deleted now. She even claims she was raped but wont say by who? I didnt see it posted here yet.
https://www.asianjunkie.com/2020/02/29/cheska-ex-fiestar-opens-up-about-her-nightmare-experience-as-a-k-pop-idol/ No. 77772
>>77771She actually sounds a bit like a cow herself if im being honest.
Ex-Fiestar member Cheska (Minji) has recently held live streams on her twitch channel where she candidly answered fan questions about her time in the K-Pop industry. The livestream replays have since then been deleted, but here are cliffnotes on what she said:
- Minji was getting bullied by Yezi and Jei.
"We would fight for like, the stupidest reasons, like, uh, from misunderstanding each other.
So I’d always be the one who would go up to them and be like ‘I think we misunderstood each other, I’m sorry for misunderstanding you. They would never say sorry to me. I would always be like I’m sorry for this, and they’d be like ‘ok’. Like they wouldn’t talk to me at all.
And then I’d be like, I feel like we should talk more, I feel like we should communicate more, cause for me, I feel like communicating is like, the number one solution to problems, so I’d be like ‘I think we should communicate’ and the person would be like ‘no. I don’t want to talk to you’. That’s what they’d be like, ‘we have nothing to talk about, I have nothing to talk about with you,’ and I’m over here like ‘what, we have so much to talk about cause we misunderstood each other’."
- Worst of the bullying came from Yezi. It was because of competition and insecurities and Minji spent the whole time putting herself down to raise Yezi up. She was jealous of Minji's English abilities and while Minji helped her write rap lyrics, Yezi would mistreat her. After Minji left the group Yezi called her up and asked for her help on lyrics. Minji wrote her lyrics for the song One More but was never credited.
- IU gave her a shout-out on Twitter and that was the happiest Minji ever was in k-pop. The same day IU visited their MV shooting set and Minji was fangirling over her, then Yezi made Minji feel bad about it.
"Working with IU was actually really fun, that was the best part. She’s really pretty you guys, she’s really pretty, she’s really nice, but I had to stay away from her.
IU, I think was my most positive memory.
I had to stay away from IU because the maknae, which is Yezi, was jealous because IU shouted my name out on Twitter and I was getting recognition because she shouted my name out, and she was giving me an attitude, and everyone else was like, eh. I needed the group to be on my side, I chose the group instead of IU, so I had to stay away from IU, for me to survive in the group."
- Jei also bullied her. The girls did not get along. Since Jei was the leader, Minji asked her if they could try to get along and Jei said "we're not here to make friends, we're here for business."
- Minji was bulimic before their debut and lost a lot of weight. Because she became "pretty" the company wanted to switch the visual role to her instead of Jei. She was bullied because of that so she gained weight back so Jei would stay visual.
- Cao Lu was a "two-faced bitch" but didn't bully her.
"Cao Lu also got bullied too. Even though I said she was a two-faced bitch, she didn’t do anything wrong, she’s just a two-faced bitch, like I said on my other live.
Everyone got bullied in this group, except Yezi and Jei. Basically, Yezi was the [real] leader, who was hiding behind Jei, who was actually the leader [on paper]. We were getting controlled by the maknae, basically. Everything was messed up.
I’m not gonna lie, Cao Lu is pretty smart. Her family is pretty rich, from what I know, but she isn’t. She’s from a wealthy family. She hit #1 in China as a solo artist. To be honest, I don’t know why she came to Korea to restart as an artist. If it was SM, JYP, YG, I’d understand why, but LOEN? But, she’s smart. Maybe that’s why, where the two-faced thing comes in. She knows how everything works. She knows how to treat the elders with respect."
- The message she sent to Zelo on Weekly Idol was fake. She said "I never liked Zelo, I just had to think of someone that I liked and it was for a show." She didn't go into why she didn't like him.
No. 77773
>>77772 One time she went to the bathroom and Hyorin was outside, seemingly in line after her. When Minji was done she told Hyorin that the bathroom was free and Hyorin gave her a stank eye and didn't say anything. Minji realized she was just there to smoke (Note: She later said on Twitter that she only said Hyorin wanted to smoke because her (Minji's) manager told her that. She didn't observe it or knew it directly). Instead of saying that, she just looked at her rudely.
"There was a time I was actually going to perform on the same stage. I think it was in Vietnam. I saw Sistar and I was going to go to the bathroom. I used to smoke cigarettes but I couldn’t let my company know or I couldn’t debut. I quit smoking by the way, it’s been 9 months. Back then I smoked cigarettes. I was going to go to the bathroom and I was waiting in line. Then it was my turn, I peed, and I came out and was washing my hands and Hyolyn was next in line. I was like “oh you can use the restroom, there’s no one in here, I was the last person.” And this is what she did
looks around in annoyance. This is what she did. I was like “wtf” Is she being mean because I’m new to the industry? Soyou was really nice, but that’s what Hyolyn did to me. I was like “ok” and I just washed my hands and left. It’s because she wanted to smoke a cigarette. She could’ve just been like “oh I’m here to smoke a cigarette”, that’s it. But instead she was just like
imitates. Yeah very
toxic. I don’t know why she did that to me. I’ve seen so many people look at me like that in the Korean industry."
- "I have all the dark sides, I really do, except for you know, sexual harassment.
There is a lot of sexual harassment, but I haven’t been through it… Actually I’m lying, I’ve been through sexual harassment.
It’s poretty disgusting, as soon as I came to Korea, I got manipulated. I don’t wanna say this, but I did get raped. I don’t think I told anyone about this.
If you guys know about my Instagram, I posted this one this I don’t want to share about, it’s when I got raped. Um… yeah.
I pretty much went through all of the negative side of K-Pop basically. I don’t want people to feel bad for me or anything, because I’m a strong girl, I’m a strong woman. To be honest, I didn’t want to say this because I feel like my parents would know about this, I don’t want them to know about this.
He was cute though, so it’s fine. I got manipulated, that was my first time I came to Korea, I was under a different company, not under LOEN. Yeah… he was a sack of shit [though].
I feel like I became a stronger person after going through that, because I know that girls at a young age, can go through that. Since I went through that. I feel like I can help girls who get sexually harassed.
I was young, I didn’t have any power. It’s a hard subject. You never know who’s been through shit. You never know who’s been raped.
This happened 9 years ago, when I first came to Korea, so I’m way over it. That’s why I’m not crying about this.
I cried a lot because of this, I didn’t like myself, I didn’t love myself, because I thought I was nasty."
- She was forced to do double eyelid surgery or she wouldn't be able to debut. The company wanted her to do a bunch more to her face but she and her parents refused.
- The stories about sexual harassment in the industry are true. "If you're 17-23ish it's easier for the guys to manipulate you because you're so young and you have no experience."
- The girls had no creative input whatsoever. The company sucks the creativity out of you and replaces it with how they want you to be. She doesn't know how to be cute but she was the cute member. She was a dancer and vocalist but she was forced to rap. She hated everything they released after their debut and hated how they styled her.
- She wasn't allowed to talk in English whatsoever. She secretly spoke in English with High4's Alex and he was there for her, but she had trouble trusting anyone.
- LOEN forced her to lie about being born in the States.
"My company actually lied that I was born in the States, I had to lie about that.
I was born in Seoul, and I moved to Birmingham, Alabama when I was 2. I lived in the states since I was 2 years old.
The company made me lie about my birthplace, because they wanted me to look like I was immediately born in America, which kinda sucked for me because I had to lie about that and make my family lie about that."
- Her parents didn't closely read her contract.
"Do parents read the contracts their kids sign? It’s really long. No. Think about this, your kid really wants to be a K-Pop idol, and they send you a contract that’s really really long, but your kid wants to be a K-Pop idol, an artist. And the company is saying they’ll do it for you. Would you sign it or not sign it? Would you read the thick contract? Every single page? Maybe you would, my parents didn’t.
‘Would you let your kid become an idol?’ Fucking no. I would beat his/her fucking ass if they say that. I would spank that kid’s ass til it bleeds. He or she could be a dancer, pianist, anything music related except a K-Pop idol."
- They demanded a million or so dollars for her to break the contract but she was able to talk them down to $15,000.
- Referring to a Youtube video of before-and-after photos of K-pop idols, she pointed out that Blackpink's Lisa, Twice's Nayeon and Red Velvet's Irene and basically "every girl group member" got plastic surgery. When talking about Blackpink's Lisa, Cheska said: "This, she went through surgery, but it's natural surgery… It's not like [singer] Park Bom. Her face is gone." She says "we all know Park Bom is addicted to plastic surgery." She also shared the various surgeries people have done, like inserting silicone into the forehead or cutting the side of the lips to make it bigger.
- Hyemi and Linzy didn't bully her. She said she liked Linzy and that Hyemi is "very cool" and she really liked her. Everyone except for Yezi and Jei got bullied once or twice.
- Girls' Generation were rumored to be not getting along.
"Girls’ Generation. I know they didn’t get along well.
I just know they didn’t get along well. If you’re in the K-Pop industry and you’re a trainee or you debut, you listen to all these rumors like this boy band got surgery, or this group, these members don’t get along well these days.
I think it’s the managers talking. Their managers talk to our managers, gossip gossip, and they tell their groups what they heard…
No. 77776
>>77773>>77772>>77771Slow your roll, sperg, this has been posted earlier in this thread. I've been gradually reading through it all for almost a week. It's not even that milky given that this group never got that big.
>>77654Huh? It's simple, Kim Jong un is obsessed with Irene. There's very little to read into beyond that…
How old are you people? In just a few months the average age of anons in here has dropped at least 10 years, or you're all on the spectrum. Do some research, think shit through, and don't post just for the sake of posting.
No. 77785
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Nayeon's stalker claims he will kill Nayeon then kill himself
No. 77807
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>>77805>Taeyong's face is a little weird but I 100% prefer it over a face like Cha Eunwoo's. It's got a lot of character.>face>a lot of charactercope. just say taeyong is ugly compared to him. u cant even deny how attractive eunwoo is
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This is actually hilarious
No. 77843
>>77826It’s true though anon!
Yuta also caused the great ninja war and it took naruto and sasuke to put him down!!!!
also his chin looked weird once idk
No. 77857
>>77772>>77773she also said: skinship aint real. its 100% for fans since they like it and the group gets better exposure that way.
just in case there are little twitter kpop stans in this thread i thought id add that.
i didnt see the plastic surgery part. what else did she say about that?
No. 77859
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>>77858Lisa's fans are so insecure.
No. 77862
>>77860oh wow. im the "excited for this" anon. and.. yeah. I was yet again disappointed kek.
at least jungwoo is back.
No. 77863
>>77862samefag…
fuck, this is actually so fucking bad
No. 77864
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>>77860Jfc this insect man is to ugly.
No. 77867
>>77860Now I see why Yuta gets no lines. How can you let JOHNNY eat you up like that?
Johnny has graduated to maximum butterface. The only member of that subunit with a good body.
No. 77868
>>77860so sm abandoned Exo for this trash.
Ugliest, nuguest. and least talented group in SM history
No. 77872
>>77869they're keeping the talented members, goodlooking ones and the quality music to the new bg.
like what sm did to suju when TVXQ was at the top, give every experimental concept to SUJU, see if it works, apply to Tvxq.
ugh how i wish shitty sm would release a r&b group, they're forcing the hiphop shit when they have the best vocalists in the industry.
No. 77877
>>77875He has a few solo endorsements in China so he's not completely penniless
>>77876I don't think she knows anything about specific work for other idols. She said she got her eyelids done, and I imagine everyone gets Botox/fillers for maintenance at the very least
No. 77892
>>75708>>77889I miss the times when ratmys weren't here infecting with BTShit propaganda
The without bundles thing is right from stan twitter, good try
No. 77893
>>77892It's literally a fact, anyways
Armys are delusional with a lot of things, but some people here are even more with their criticism with zero arguments
No. 77899
>>77898>hurdurr forumYea go and stay go, newfag.
Ratmys please kys this thread was so much better before the twitter rat migration.
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>>77889>>77898>y'allI can't believe it you really are a Twitterfag, deep down I knew I shouldn't have posted my comment since it was obvious someone would come from the woods to get
triggered
>didn't they get their highest billboard position ever with it?How do you know that's legit?, they always sneak themselves into random nominations via cheating
>BTS' entire brand and music is just for their fans, they don't care about unique listeners or the general public because they've come to a point in which they don't need themI wish, they're constantly trying to westernize themselves for the American gp while failing misserably because, again, they don't even try, lol at you thinking their music is ~for their fans only~
>especially for their conditions as artists.>artistsIt's not that deep it's just kpop boys
No. 77902
>>77860Uff include me into the list of excited nctfags that is completely disappointed. NCT is starting to really be a hit or miss with me when I used to like all of their comebacks. What is going on over there? Like Superhuman was so good and this is just trash.
I'm really sad about it because I do think the members have talent but they keep coming out with real cringe man. They got me again with Superhuman after I hated Wakey and now this?
No. 77906
>>77904omg newfags r really ruining the thread lmfaoooooooooooooo
even replying 2 themselves kskajdfj
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 77911
>>77904This has nothing to do with a personality….its more about competition and jealousy that happens in all kpop groups
>>77906that person isnt me moron
No. 77912
>>77906>>77908You type like a newfag. Go back to twitter.
>>77905>>77907Sage your replies. You aren't contributing to the thread with your shit.
No. 77915
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>>77904Jimin and Rapmonsters reaction to Jungkooks add on that show
No. 77918
>>77879im amazed she hasnt mentioned face lifts. surgeons have commented due to excessive filler use, people are now getting face lifts as young as in their 20s.
would explain the bad premature aging of some of those 'aunties'.
No. 77920
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>>77861>what did she really expectWell judging from how passively the other members behave with her…it only feeds her delusion.
Jaehyun should try flipping her off too because he's one of her main targets
No. 77923
>>77909Same anon. I agree it wasn't really their style but I liked it. I think the last good noisy NCT song was Simon Says, I liked that one and it had the hype that this song is trying to do but it wasn't cringy to me. Like yes, Simon was noisy but it was good noisy. Maybe it's the shouting? Too much shouting lol
I may need to give Kick it a couple more listens but I found myself not gravitating to anything when I heard it. I still loved TY's look and I'm totally going to see the lives for the choreo and him.
I think NCT would have more of a chance if they dropped some people, but of course that's not an option anymore.
No. 77925
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>>77864He could give some diet tips to other members
No. 77928
>>77927no, according to bmi underweight european.
you need a reality check.
No. 77929
>>77891Lol I was the one that shared this guy, glad to see other anons are tired of reactors. Especially these pasty losers that try to sell their fake gayness and go "yesss kick me" at every male idol to pander to teenager fans.
Also real question what's going on with Johnny's face? He was always ugly but he's looking especially ugly lately. Same as Taeil,
No. 77935
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>>77920I hope we see more idols snap, and stand up to sasaengs. It doesn't make them look like assholes, it makes them look less like fantasy characters. The whole squeaky clean I'm your cute boyfriend thing. Just fuels people's delusion, IMO.
No. 77987
>>77981>The rest are ugly or untalentedUgly: Taeil
Untalented: Jungwoo
Ugly and untalented: Johnny and Yuta
No. 77988
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So What" is popular in SK? It really weird seeing Loona show up on idol league and weekly idol all of a sudden.
No. 78009
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People on twitter talking about how he’s they’re proud of him being confident in his ”naturally skinny” body and shouldn’t be bodyshamed. Naturally skinny my ass. His weight has fluctuated a ton from ana to normal.
No. 78011
>>78009Honestly the pic on the right is still skinny he wasn’t buff of even ripped by any means
probably 140 lbs there
No. 78026
>>77879Yeah well regular person grooming is very different from actor/model/celebrity grooming - they probably don't even count fillers as "surgery".
>>77913Jin is also the least retarded member due to being slightly older when chosen as a trainee, if not for him cooking and cleaning the younger ones would be literal feral children. Him being the maid of BTS is enough I guess
>>77923Or even if they just had better songs. You can't try and make NCT a brand name if the brand is associated with garbage music
No. 78036
>>78026>You can't try and make NCT a brand name if the brand is associated with garbage musicBts never had a problem with it. Ateez Stray kids and Monsta X are doing just as well as or even better than nct without any of that Sm shilling and their music is equal bad. I don't think having crappy music is their problem when that's pretty much expected of boy groups now. The nct 127
members on the other hand have weak visuals, no personality, are nothing special in the talent department, and have no chemistry. Very low quality idols… worse than SuJu ever was, the absolute worst we've seen from Sm.
No. 78045
>>78044I know what 2nd gen sm group you are talking about, its super junior. Atleast two of the members of super junior have done fucked up shit and have gotten away with it for some strange reason.
So strange how suju has gotten away with so much as a group.
No. 78067
>>78043chanyeol seems kinda sus and he’s good friends with many shady and
problematic idols
No. 78071
>>78069so what you are saying is making english songs somehow puts you above other groups? Like we all know that bts isnt getting played because their songs are korean, just as monstax would get zero exposure with korean songs.
I dont get how kpop stans support the americanization of their groups, if they just end up sounding like every nondescript us-boygroup in the end.
No. 78075
>>78067sm is obviously paying off tabloids to not expose him, so exo members reputation can get spared.
i've heard many weird rumors about him, seems like its true after you see who he hangs out with.
No. 78080
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>>78077its from an now deactivated twitter account (or they changed their username bc i cant find them) but they basically said chanyeol has had s*x related rumors ala seungri, leaked from commoners he hooked up w 2 tabloids, according to the twitter user he keeps these rumors suppressed through sm.
he was also the idol rumored to get exposed by that white hacker back in january, but ofc the white hacker got paid off. white hacker said he had a video on the so said idol.
same account also posted this story posted by suga's throwaway account back in 2017, most of the twt users info is from others so i didnt think the chanyeol rumors were true until recently when it came to light that he was friend w joonyoung and jonghyun (cnblue).
suga screenshot translates into ''i've had alot of pussy lately'' (posted b4 bts went ''viral'' lel) i'm pretty sure some of u have seen this in some older critical thread
if i can find the old @ i'll post it x
No. 78088
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>>78081they still hook up with groupies non stop. vast majority of male idols do.
in exo baekhyun and chanyeol are apparently not very covert about it when backstage. taemin has had a rep since way back for screwing his groupies….
most (groupies) dont talk publicly and the company handles all issues….so either you are there or know people that work the circuit.
on another note:
https://aminoapps.com/c/lma/page/blog/dispatch-revealed-the-secret-relationship-of-these-idols-who-are-they-bts-v-blackpink-lisa-dating-allkpop/oPmN_lztduBM1VmLzMYZJqG83qKpj883Bgi wish this could go public and we could watch the fandom meltdown. even when company denies…the meltdown would be top notch.
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>>78084I hope to god my eyes are playing tricks in my but if you look at the girl on the left closely during this whole scene, it looks like she’s got braids. Cringe.
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Hitomi looks really weird here. Like they tried to make her into an irl Barbie. Her proportions and head size seem too off.
Also now that she’s 18 I think they’re gonna try and turn her concept from cute to sexy (like joy) because other girls in the group do it better and they don’t really know what to do with her
No. 78100
>>78096I still find it meh but imo it's better than simon says and superhuman. However I was disappointed to see that they're still breaking up the choreo because it leaves members awkwardly standing at the sides and walking back and forth throughout the performance which is annoyingly tacky.
Taeyong and Mark really nailed this concept tho…the other members were just there
No. 78101
>>78100Jaehyun look good in the MV too, although I felt like he didn't even sing? He was just there posing. he looks a lot more stern lately in photos and videos, not sure what it is. Honestly TY is the only one that stood out to me, probably because he usually gets the most close ups.
Oh my god yes! After Regular they started to break up the choreo and make it so weird, I complained about that too in previous threads. Like I never get tired of Cherry Bomb's choreo but their latest ones are so boring to me for some reason.
No. 78103
>>78088uhm im pretty sure thats a doctored photo sorry to break it 2 u, that whole amino thing is pure fiction.
also taemin doesnt have one rumor about being sleazy stop lying lel
most popular male idols go to is commoners, hostesses, staff. they can easily make them shut up. while the less popular ones go to massage parlors and bar girls and fan groupies, often getting caught by tabloids. exo arent that dumb, it would slide in the era where internet wasnt a thing (suju, tvxq ahem) but not now.
No. 78108
>>78103yes, im pretty sure too. would still be great if it made the rounds and the fandoms have a meltdown. the last part is kinda the point.
i never said taemin has rumors being sleazy. i said he is known for screwing his ifans and has been for a long time. plenty of em (backstage groupies/fans)about. not sure where you get your info from regarding 'less pop go to fan groupies' cause thats just not the case. most of em screw fans/ celeb groupies. if you think groups like exo dont you clearly know nothing. go get info from people that work at venues. ofen these kpoppers are concerned about rep etc and wont make interest too obvious with many eyes on them even backstage. baek and chan dont really give a f.
No. 78114
>>78108some of yall know sm has every one of their artists on a tight leash rite?
theres no way a group like exo would have groupies backstage, skorea has cctv's everywhere, yall saw how jk got exposed for hugging a girl, let alone fucking backstage.
idk if the taemin thing is legit?
idols live on their image, if they want a one night stand they'd never screw sweaty fans
No. 78118
>>78114Ever heard of "money makes the world go round"?EXO are 8 years old,I doubt that SM really cares as long as they don't get caught and it's not unusual for companies to pay people to keep quiet.
Besides,ex-idols adnd ex-trainees frequently expose how idols evade dating-bans and find hookups all the time.
No. 78119
>>78114oh lord. do you also believe the dating ban?
i thought this thread was for adults?
hun, the image is fake. when abroad they let lose. those 'sweaty fans' are rich girls or girls with contacts in the industry. if not pretty born, money made them pretty. some are models. and the support staff screening first 5+ rows and inviting said hottie (who fits idols taste) backstage later is a thing. some are quite vocal in what they like. stuff such as big tits and dsl are mentioned.
thats what its like.
>>78116no, i got it from WITNESSES.
jesus. go back to twitter.
taemin is such a major kpop fuckboi that EVERYONE who has talked to a few people knows this. he is FAMOUS for screwing his ifans. his type when in the west btw are blonde angelic models. he of course also goes for asians back home in asia.
i thought we settled this some threads back? why is it coming up again?
they have plenty one night stands, the girls never run out when you re famous. yes they screw backstage and also in these rented tinted window large suvs…its all well known. except for those delusional little kids with no real world experience. if screwing elsewhere, well, if they stay a day or two in town then yes but sometimes they got little time between gigs and make do.
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>>78091it wouldn't be the first time. yeji had braids in icy too.
No. 78122
>>78119https://kpopsecrets.tumblr.com/post/32274053561/long-secret-post-anonymous#dude what witnesses u legit got it straight from here and reworded it, i found it in the first search
u mean 2 tell me someone u know SAW him fuck some groupies backstage lol
this fanfic is starting to sound like what groupies described with 90s r&b groups lol screwing in the tourbus !!!!!!!
thats not how the kpop industry works, sm isnt just gonna let them do whatever they want, we are talking sm here
theyre psychos w the micro managing thing, sm idols are literally slaves
(ban evading newfag) No. 78159
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What the actual fuck is going on with yuta?
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>>78159hes been looking extra handsome
No. 78165
>>78120When people talk about idols wearing braids these are not the type of braids they are talking about sir.
>>78159That what happens when you starve yourself consistently
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What do you guys think of Agust D's new mv?