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Discuss the shitty art and even shittier attitude of artists
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse!
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Recent Art Milk:
Just the same old salt
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix Yoon
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND.
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why does the artist thread always have the least visually appealing, most literal and representational thread pics
No. 1361693
>>1361656>study living masters that teachIf their content is free then give me some recs. I don't study his actual art per se, I just follow his tips. His videos about the science of studying are basically just 15 minutes of distilled advice that help learn basically anything and I found them useful when I started taking my art studies more seriously.
>marcs a shortcut artist at best.I mean, yeah. That's kinda the point. Why spend money and hours when I could spend 10 minutes for free and still get some useful tips? This is ofc just in reference to his youtube content, people who spend money on his actual courses are another beast entirely.
No. 1361743
>>1361693>If their content is free then give me some recs. This is why people here aren't gonna make it. Vilppu is a great example of a master that's got free content all around the internet. He has paid courses as well. If you want a great instructional demo then sign up to New Masters Academy's 7 day free trial. It's the best resource online currently. Hell
they have content from Huston as well which is fantastic.
>I don't study his actual art per se, I just follow his tips. His videos about the science of studying are basically just 15 minutes of distilled advice that help learn basically anything and I found them useful when I started taking my art studies more seriously.His advice about art tangent things generally isn't bad. His advice to practice less and study smarter is retarded. You need to practice more AND study smarter. Obviously if you end up getting something quicker you won't spend as much time trying to grasp something, but even masters spend time revisiting
fundamentals. That's what Marc fails to understand. His videos about anatomy, lighting, and construction are pretty shit. Decent advice mixed with preference at best.
>I mean, yeah. That's kinda the point. His point is to provide short tips, some good some bad, to lure you into his "art school". His entire channel is one big marketing ploy.
>Why spend money and hours when I could spend 10 minutes for free and still get some useful tips? Maybe read Loomis and you wouldn't need these tips.
>This is ofc just in reference to his youtube content, people who spend money on his actual courses are another beast entirely.People that pay Brunet are hacks.
No. 1361892
>>1361888The way I like to use those sorts of books is more as a reference like for me it's not a great replacement for just sitting down and drawing and doing practical application but if there's something in particular I'm struggling with I might go through a couple books and read about artists different approaches.
I thinking using the books as an end all be all is a mistake they're supplemental at best.
No. 1361894
>>1361892>>1361888I also think it's worth mentioning that there's not one artist where their approach is 100 percent the right way to do everything I think you just kind of have to pick and chose what you find useful. But I do think you may need basic fundamentals to get to that point.
Sorry for sperging just my thoughts on the whole debacle
No. 1362318
>>13620274:5 and 1:1(square) images don't get cropped in the previews on twitter. basically instagram sizes.
16:9 or any wide screen horizontal images look great on twitter preview, but look shitty on phones imo. but most people are quickly scrolling twitter on their phone and don't bother clicking through to the full size anyway, so it works.
No. 1362456
>>1361894This 100%, one artist’s method may not be right for everybody.
Personally, I don’t think a person should trace an image, at all, not to break down the shapes because I think there will be less movement/the artist will become too reliant on those shapes and not figure it out theirselves by just looking at an image. Same with colour pickers- but apparently it all works well for other artists out there
No. 1362462
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Ok that’s it AI art should be illegal
No. 1362480
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>>1362446I thought you were referring to picel.
No. 1362483
>>1362462I have heard that the stable diffusion furry trained model is probably the most advanced at making anatomy, I have heard from real Ai users that the furry model so far is the only model capable of depicting sex acts.
Gotta say that out of all the autism that gets combined on the internet, I never expect the furries to be masterminds of porn.
No. 1362528
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How do I draw backgrounds like picrel?
When i discovered alke I thought he drew storybook-centered drawings but then I realized he is a pedophilic fucking retard.
Anyways, what I liked was the composition of his drawings. how does he do it? with a 3d program or something?
No. 1362748
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Does anyone know if you can turn off the base stabilization in CSP? I like to do cross hatching in traditional but that minimum stabilization is so cancer. I've read you can do it with lazy nezumi, but I have to pay for that or pirate it. Is there any other way?
If not, uhhh, shill me a program I guess.
No. 1363261
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I’ve gotten multiple AI bros sponsored on my timeline today that I could spot immediately. Everything here is AI generated and they’re trying to pass it off as real art and asking for “commissions.” This shit is actually despicable, I don’t know how it’s not glaringly obvious to everyone that it’s a scam.
No. 1363317
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>>1363301Legally speaking, it's not stealing, at least not in these cases you show. Picrel is a case where I'd imagine an argument is to be made considering how closely it reproduces all unique elements of Stalenhag's illustration, but in case of usual AI mergers there's just too many sources, that ultimately, whether we like it or not, create a completely new artwork. Now, why would anyone want to comission and pay for something they could make by themselves in a few attempts, that's another thing.
No. 1363344
>>1363328For attention of course, and I saw that tweet a lot on my wall the day was posted so the guy succedeed. He retweets insults he's getting, calls himself a professional artist in the bio to
trigger people even more; I wonder if he's just a troll with waaaay to much time or has some different hidden goal
No. 1363663
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I stg every argentinian moids’ art looks exactly the same
No. 1363681
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>>1363663you clearly dont know much then
No. 1363736
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>>1363685no, not everyone you dislike is the boogeyman i just like a lot of argentinian artists. pic rel is a faggy furry from argentina i like as well
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>>1363705Op, can’t tell if the guy is a troll or not because most of these technobros normally end up being the most misogynistic
No. 1364095
>>1364084Good for you
nonnie, don't forget to get all your shit out, literally, releasing all your poop helps a lot with nerves.
No. 1364132
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>soys and twitter artists were wailing for years that truck driving and oil drilling chuds will be the first ones to experience mass unemployment due to machine learning and AI taking over most of their tasks
>turns out it is the opposite
No. 1364505
>>1364195Studying from reference is good, since you're using references I assume you have developed an eye for the compositions you like and know in your head what you want to do. Your issue is execution. To help with that:
1. Thumbnail. If you don't know what this means, it's to draw a small general plan and sketch of a composition. This should be small and should not take more than a couple minutes, they can often take less than a minute to do. Just enough that you can feel out the shapes, forms, and silhouettes. Do several until you make one you like. Starting on a blank full size page will make it more difficult to execute a solid composition, planning on a smaller scale will help.
2. Stop starting from the head. Start from the torso instead. And don't do a basic rectangle for the whole torso, make sure to define both the rib cage and the pelvis. This way you can attach the head and appendages more easily to create dynamic poses. It's more difficult to attach a dynamically posed body to a head. Starting from the head is what makes it so easy to make a pretty girl bust.
3. Start loose with a light hand. Draw big gestural strokes to start. Make sure to work the whole piece at once and not hyper focus on the details of one aspect. Have some restraint and prioritize the composition above all.
4. Continue to study from reference and collect images of compositions you like. There's nothing wrong with drawing from your head, I think it's a valuable skill to practice concurrently with reference studies. However, even when you're not studying, don't shy away from using a reference for specifically complex parts, like a hand pose for example. If you're worried about copyright you can learn to take your own photos of yourself for reference, there are also libraries of free to use reference images out there if you look.
No. 1364530
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He was an amazing artist, this is awful, and so unexpected…
No. 1364563
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I can’t be the only one who finds the whole hyper realistic lips and noses on black edits of very stylized so jarring. Especially the noses. It’s just so ugly, and then half the time none of these edit artists can color darker skin tones other than the multiply tool. I truly wonder if black creators with actual skill in drawing find it just as off putting.
No. 1364574
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>>1364563at this point i am convinced this is a fetish, just like those moid transformation fetishes but with race
No. 1364586
>>1364574FINALLY, a transformation fetish image for me
Btw the second to last one looks like a Finnish nationalist politician
No. 1364600
>>1364530totally unexcepted, his art made me go back to brushpens and brushes ngl. RIP legend, despite that you were a massive coomer
/ic/ anons now speculate what akshually killed him.
No. 1364611
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>>1364563>Venezuelan Bennet I mean, the mix of Venezuelans and Germans have existed for a long time, but come on, that person just looked for an obscure latam country to slap on a shitty edit.
I get you, these edits are kind of shitty most of the times, specially because of how the colors just clash with each other, it's like all of them got this specific color palette that they use and never try to go for other skin tones, which at least the desi editor tries to play around with.
I don't mind these edits sometimes, they can be cute when the editors do different manga panels because then there's no color clashing and the lips and nose aren't too exaggerated.
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Nonas, is there a good web course about how to draw your own comics/graphic novels? I want something by a professional. Came across this but it's so expensive:
https://www.proko.com/course/creating-a-comic-page/overview No. 1364723
>>1364627NTA but
>mestarificationI almost died laughing nonna and I almost wish this was a thing
No. 1364820
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>>1364723anon you're making me blush
No. 1364917
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>>1363952What kinds of husbandos do you want nonna? I've gotten into this thing lately, it's not going to replace actual artists IMO but it's fun and impressive
No. 1364927
>>1364919I made it like two days ago and didn't save the exact prompt but the first few tags were something like
>((extremely beautiful)) man (androgynous) (((long wavy hair))) ((flat chest)) in snow, wet, shirtless, ((highly detailed)), painting, concept art, 8kand so on. Also, artists like Greg Rutkowski, Albert Mucha and William-Adolphe Bouguereau are good for getting pretty results
No. 1364938
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>>1364919>>1364929>>1364935weak bitches, i bet you would be the first ones to bend down to the robot overlords as long as they have anime heads
No. 1364953
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>>1364929Stable Diffusion, yeah it's free! I used this guide:
https://rentry.org/voldy#-voldy-retard-guide-If your GPU isn't 2-4GB VRAM, you can use this to set it up instead:
https://rentry.org/cputardIf you can't be bothered downloading things, I think there are also some sites you can use, like Dezgo (though the quality of the results might vary a lot more)
No. 1364965
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>>1364563here's the thing I don't get about all these race specific autists who demand such and such ethnic group be drawn a certain way, unless an art style is trying to be hyper realistic most 2d drawn characters don't look like actual human beings, especially characters in anime whose skull shape is more closer to something like a cat, but we suspend our disbelief and can accept that the characters being shown in screen are human beings, like picrel can be conveyed as a black person without having to draw him with big lips and detailed racial characteristics
No. 1364966
>>1364953Can a
nonnie make a boy like
Griffith or
Kakyoin please
No. 1364973
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>>1364941>>1364960You can make different styles tbf (especially depending on the models you use), I just personally prefer effeminate guys and a more painterly look
No. 1364996
>>1364975Yeah, that's how I feel too. I think techbros cooming themselves over how it'll "replace artists" are retarded, but I also think it can help artists and all sorts of creatives with their stuff. I can see some artists on a time limit churning out commissions or generic work faster if they train their own art with this sort of thing. It's an interesting tool with its own drawbacks and strengths
Also, idc about the tranny devs as long as I can keep making husbandos kek
No. 1365019
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>>1365001I've gotten bears and many other types of moids before because of all the general/furry art pumped into it. What it actually struggles with is hands and feet.
Ngl, I kind of see it in a similar way to Picrews, but more advanced. It's kind of funny how scrotes immediately try to turn it into a competition and wreck people's livelihoods with it. As time goes on, if this becomes a "problem", I'm sure software made to detect AI-generated content will be developed
No. 1365055
>>1365019>Ngl, I kind of see it in a similar way to Picrews, but more advanced. I honestly think if AI art was presented this way it would be more accepted, lol. Or kind of like a novelAI thing in which you just have an eternal 24/7 roleplay friend that knows your exact preferences. Did that kill roleplaying or writing? Right now it's just cringe techbros posturing and crying that artists are gatekeeping talent… or something. You're supposed to draw for enjoyment, not as a cringe hustle. That's why it almost always filters people who don't want to train for 5-10 years.
>>1365024AI vs AI, nice.
No. 1365078
>>1364938I failed in making my actual husbando in an AI generator, so I'm back to say that I completely agree and I am sorry for my moment of weakness. I won't let the techbros get me again, no matter how many sexy man photos they generate.
Also, funnily enough I found using AI sites more confusing than just drawing what I want to see.
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>>1365078just remember that any time you let some moid generated by AI cloud your mind you become no different than moids themselves. ok but joke over, i hope it inspires more women to draw hot men there are only 2 artists that draw men that i like.
No. 1365107
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>>1363952hes using waifu diffusion trained on danbooru images that includes guys. its a combination of anime inspired portraits and whatever you get from sd, so it can generate both manly men and cute faces. picrel is the only man i found on that gross boob account
i agree that moids who try to make prompting an art and conflate sd with nft/crypto are annoying as fuck, but i still have fun with sd regularly and add my own (badly made) characters to it
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>>1364966I tried
nonnie, it's not exact but I hope you like!!
No. 1365123
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>>1365120Tried again/more realistic one after tweaking the prompt a bit
No. 1365138
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>>1365123>>1365120>>1364953>>1364917i love this anon, can you make a ai one that looks like this one in picrel?
No. 1365150
>>1365143Jesus
nonnie take a chill pill.
No. 1365170
>>1365158NTA, the comparison is spot on.
t. Worked as a cook
No. 1365290
>>1365284You're assuming people have money to commission good artists or that their character is popular enough to have a lot of fanart.
Anyway I was messing around with that Dezgo site because my computer is too shit to locally run, and it was interesting, but even with img to img it couldn't get the hair right and it kept flip flopping between ok and trash without much change in keywords.
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>>1365212>>1365194>>1365138Here you go anon, sorry for the delay! I had to go run some errands. There are like two more, but I'll post them in the
>>1365296 /m/ thread instead to prevent any further infighting
No. 1365319
>>1365305thanks anon, not trying to offend you but it looks nothing like him, his body looks like a 13 year old anorexic boy. Meanwhile
>>1365138 is bulkier.
I understand its hard navigating with Ai ao dont take it the wrong way <3
No. 1365329
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>>1365324rae and kaneoya sachiko, i am really picky and i like very detailed stuff
No. 1365662
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>>1365361I for one welcome this new technology. The entitlement of small artists will be GRAND when they insist that they are now an oppressed class thanks to all the AI spam in the hashtags.
No. 1365664
>>1365660there are
3 ai art threads in /m/ now (not including the husbando/waifu generator thread) so there is really no excuse
No. 1365787
>>1364765He also drew a self-portrait of himself in a middle of a classroom full of high schoolers fucking each other.
As a Korean, I don't know how he managed to draw a bunch of porn and not thrown in jail. (Making porn is illegal in Korea.)
No. 1365847
>>1363317I can't help but read this whole situation as autistic techbros gloating now that they finally feel they've got a win over us annoying liberal art majors.
A lot of these types of moids hate artists and feel like we are lazy good for nothings and want to punish us and mock us. Seriously I've met a lot of moids like this and these AI bros are the exact type. Obsessed with logic, maths, efficiency, and consuming product. They're like hyper autists with low IQ pretending to be the kings of facts and logic.
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>>1365957female artists do it to, the best ones always draw hot guys
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>>1364965the funniest thing about this is that realistic drawing that gets ethnic features right was created by those nefarious :dead white guys" who are the boogeymento wokeoid artists, these are people who genuinely seem to think that a historical progression of technique and style has a racist component because it mostly occured in europe and is taught that way.
No. 1365978
>>1365970This guy's masturbatory comics
trigger me a bit cause his art is kinda shit.
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>>1365978>masturbatory comicsyeah that's exactly what they are
No. 1366006
I've been taking commissions for a few years now and all I can say is that making art you're not really interested in is soul-sucking and not worth it. I'm also paid below minimum wage. Fuck this shit.
>>1365977Please go back, this isn't your space.
No. 1366070
>>1365981>social mediaNot only did it make it worse, the modern idea of art is fucked because of it, perfect example would be someone like you
Art existed before social media, bother looking into that and broaden your understanding.
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I don’t go there but
>blacktober
>fair pink skin
?????
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>>1366292but why? why not highlight obscure black characters instead? it seems so petty
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>>1367161It's when your line art bumps up against one another and it jumbles the composition.
Like if you had a person standing in the foreground and a line for their hair is the exact same line that leads into the edge of a window behind them. It messes with the flow.
No. 1367353
>>1367180Not necessarily. You just have to develop an eye for it. To do that, you need to break up your elements in a scene, making sure that there's no continuous line that may confuse the eye.
It's a lot like reading a run-on sentence with no punctuation. The more examples you see of tangents, the more you'll be able to catch them in your own work. Just be patient with yourself and don't obsess over it. It still happens with professionals.
No. 1368185
>>1368160I used to follow holly's thread for the lolz but I genuinely did want to see her get better, I was happy when she seemed like she was on a good path finding jobs, going outside more etc. Holly is one cow I could never hate because we share some of the same experiences
we even probably could have been friends I hope she starts feeling better in her new situation
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anons should i delete the files of old drawing but keep the pngs? i'd like to but honestly i'm not sure, my sketches or the process behind it were nothing impressive and honestly they were kind of shit but maybe id like to know what other artist do with their original files because it feels like everytime they lose a drawing they have no backup file for some reason
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Honestly feeling a bit of schadenfreude from those /ic/ males that constantly complained about not being able to draw a woman without having to taking a break to jack off, kek. Maybe AI was the big permabeg pleb filter we needed.
>pic relatedWhy are you so angry bro? I'm still getting money by "playing with my pencils". I might fuck around and get my pencil to make me even richer. I did not know all this time while I was drawing I had every incel permabeg in a chokehold.
>>1368259I delete them. I don't know why, but I'm more inclined to do so if they were older/non public pieces. I don't recommend deleting commission files ever but that's just me. I hate file bloat but I know some people personally that have decades of files spanning back to high school or middle school, it scares me.
>>1368291this
No. 1368316
>>1368159I don't think the end goal is to overthrow traditional art, but to become the new middle-man so to speak. If they can get people to spend their money on that might've otherwise been spent on commissioning an actual artist on their monthly subs, that's fine by them.
Then there's people who'll use it to con unsuspecting people into buying their shit because "it looks good enough".
No. 1368688
>>1368176She has some interesting designs but doesnt know how to market herself, she mentioned only getting a few orders.
I kinda wish she got closer to baylee instead of that fat friend, baylee has a more successful shop and couldve helped her a bit
No. 1368780
>>1368160Oh god. I hope she's doing well. I know that they had some issues going on behind the scenes, but that's still a terrible experience to go through. Wishing her the best.
>>1368309Similar to crypto bros, AI tech bros are their own worst enemy. Whatever goodwill or interesting ideas these communities have about how the tech can be used are immediately usurped by the loudest vocal minority starting shit for no reason.
Most people are going to think that immediately feeding an artist's work to AI conveniently after their death to make money is in poor taste. It's like they can't understand that maybe it's a LITTLE fucked up when the body isn't even cold yet.
No. 1369628
>>1361743Late but I’ve read Loomis but would like to find more on the Reilly rhythms method. That’s been hard to understand. There’s a lot more rules to follow when constructing the head.
As an aside I thought we didn’t have to sage in this thread but I did just in case
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tracked down an old (circa 2010) mutual of mine. she used to have a generic tumblr artstyle but at least it was better than the thinly-veiled tranny fetish art she’s drawing now.
No. 1370772
>>1370730I like those challenges because they help me to be constant and I always try to think about something I need to improve on before starting so I get something out of it (for example, this year I'm drawing simple backgrounds/scenery). The little clout gets me going all month and it's probably the time I improve the most because the rest of the year I'm too lazy to draw more than once a week lmao.
But it's true that there are too many of these now, every fandom account I follow thought of their own -tober; and it sucks that lots of artists feel pressured to participare on one.
No. 1370832
>>1370730I made my own list of themed prompts, but I don't have the time to do them daily. I don't want to rush on them, either, and wouldn't mind using them for a silly zine. I decided to use the list as a focal point and just enjoy creating.
I think the original point of inktober was just do stick to small stuff and get practice in ink, anyway. People using it for social clout and wanting to ride the tag while missing the point of it is what ruined it.
No. 1371594
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Imagine existing in the current year and still unironically thinking that digital art isn't real art and that the tools make the artist. From a coomer scrote arguing on a hentai account no less
No. 1371640
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Moids with booths at art conventions always have this really watered down, sanitized "cute" art style that I dislike so much. I'm sure I'll see some at Lightbox this weekend
No. 1371672
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The audacity
No. 1371747
>>1368309>>1368382>>1368350lmfao reminds me of when I was lurking there back in the day and some permabeg i/n/cel became obsessed with mastering ruan jias rendering technique. no need to mention being incredibly salty and delusional af about it. seriously why do these losers even get into art when their only motivation is getting rich or one-upping artists they are jelly of? with such a mindset you’re only capable of producing worthless crap anyway.
>>1371640ew this looks like funko pops.
No. 1371768
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>>1371640Arent dumpster fires figures first, and not just this art? My friend has one and it looks really cute on display with other figures around, producing such thing is not that easy so if he doesn't just draw them it's not bad. Ultimately I'd rather have plain vector cute art moids at conventions than coomers
No. 1371962
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>>1371676KEK this is how my parents described those littlest pet shop toys i was obsessed with
picrel an amazing custom i found
No. 1372527
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So in the latest saga of shitty tech bros, apparently this one went straight into a artist life stream, took a screenshot of the wip in progress, and then ran it through the AI and posted it as theirs if I’m reading all of this correctly, and then came after the actual artist.
No. 1373069
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>>1372527>Nonnas, watch me go +250,000 in the likes economyNice throw Musaish. It’s a shame that Twitter needs an activation condition to “support real art” instead of always doing that.
No. 1373077
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>>1373069>>1372527Looks like no one bought his bullshit and he ran off.
No. 1373193
>>1373099I had this recommended to me earlier as well, and it reminded me of why I hate these "reading my hate comments" type videos. People commenting whatever pops into their head, rude or not, is just part of being online. It's unavoidable. Also, for every one "hate comment" you can pull up, there are hundreds complimenting, supporting, and enabling you every day.
She also mentioned reading these comments in the voice of an
abusive person in her personal life. I think she needs to step back from the internet and get into therapy if she isn't already. If she wants to stay online (I'm pretty sure this is her job), the least she can do for herself is only read the top comments and never sort by new, as "hate comments" never reach the top unless you've either messed up badly or your audience actually hates you lol.
No. 1373291
>>1373099I stopped watching her videos and had YouTube stop recommending her to me because none of the videos she makes are really all that useful or new information.
All she did was wiggle her way into the 'art business advice' niche and stayed there. She has mentioned that shes stuck now making those types of vids and not making art videos because they don't get views, but that's kind of her own making. If she drew or painted something more than generic illustrator's slop there'd be more substance to the 'advice' vids she makes…
There's a sort of arrogance and disingenuous vibe I pick up from her as well that I don't like but maybe that's just me.
No. 1373617
>>1373099the actuality of being on the internet is that you have to block, mute and ignore negative comments. It does no good to really bring attention to them.
on the other side, I do enjoy hearing creators talk about it because in a way it does remind me that just because it is to be expected doesn't mean it should be considered acceptable. Helps keep my own self in check
No. 1374270
>>1373291Same. I first found her videos because yt recommended them and I thought the thumbnails were pleasing to look at. Going through her videos I realized it's basic advice and she technically wasn't making money with her art, rather the business advice she was giving. I wanted to investigate further and her art and the only thing she has on her store are templates (which i frankly think are overpriced). I also got similar vibes when watching her videos so you're not alone anon.
Regardless of my biases, the comments appear to be one off rude comments that I honestly never encountered when I watched her videos. I think if you're a creator online, especially on youtube, you have to expect these kinds of comments every now and then unfortunately. No matter how you present yourself, someone is always gonna throw some rude/mean comment for no reason other than just because. It's the internet.
No. 1374550
>>1370730Gonna put my tinfoil here: mabgraves spends the whole year working on her drawlloween pieces and then pretends she's doing them daily while most eyes are on her page. She's basically inactive for the rest of the year yet somehow manages to make multiple pieces a day during drawlloween, things that would be logistically impossible to complete in a day like her needlefelted hedgehog with apple ornaments today.
Or the bones headpiece, her story about conveniently finding the bones she needed on a morning walk, somehow preparing/cleaning them sufficiently to work with in a few hours, and taking the photos, and making something for her miniature museum on the same day.
All this stuff takes longer than is physically possible in a day. It's smart advertising so I don't blame her but as an artist who does related crafts, it's literally not possible to complete things in the speed she is posting she is. I think the yupo drawings or paintings may be genuinely daily work since that is possible, but the larger or more complex pieces, like the full colour illustration with a bunch of cats in different poses, the needlefelted hedgehog, the bones headpiece, they all take longer even if you're really fast.
There's also been a miniature house from a ghibli movie, a furry werewolf doll, three full colour lake monster paintings already printed/prepared for pennants, and a painting and drawing, both of which had a timelapse unlike the above more complex projects which just appeared. Plus a couple of redraws of kids drawings which are obviously new.
It's a good hustle but it almost seems like an unconvincing one, unless you aren't an artist and don't realise how long these things actually take
No. 1375666
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I can’t stand male artists sometimes - why insert a random whore with glasses in what would have been an amazing fantasy illustration.
No. 1375685
>>1372058>>1372013>>1371676>>1371640There should be a proper name for this shitty "I slapped a .u. face on it" cancer because for a while it was just labeled as "kawaii" art.
>>1372016>>1372058No, it's entirely deserved when they bawww about why their .u. face ice cream design is ""stolen"" when the only original part is they drew a generic-ass clipart ice cream. It's such low effort art and easily replicated.
No. 1375716
>>1375713>moids>caring for immersion if it's even at the tiniest expense of coomI think you know the answer to that
nonnie.
No. 1376209
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It’s so distracting when a artist who does detailed photo bashing like this and doesn’t blend it into the background. I’ve noticed that in some of their posts, otherwise it’s really good, the only thing that saves it from being glaringly distracting is that they’re skilled in composition and that’s what makes it less but the difference it has in some of their paintings throws me off.
No. 1376210
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>>1376201Actually, holy shit zooming in on this is just, painful, do they get thousands of likes just quickly painting over models?
No. 1376217
>>1376201Calm down, Nonna. There’s a glass.
Also, it was paid by an oil company to make leftist look stupid.
No. 1376532
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Nonnas, is algorithm invisibility real? How do I get myself off the blacklist?
I’m able to get so and so’s Retweet by having a list of birthdays but relativity says I’m not doing so well.
No. 1376827
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It’s not so much character design but rather your art sucking ass, Haley.
No. 1377615
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>>1376827Ah lavendertowne. I’m surprised she never got her own thread.
No. 1377742
>>1377619I don't think so. She doesn't really get into any actual drama as far as I know. I don't think you can sustain a thread just on "this girl gives bad advice and is very uninspired".
I think the closes thing to drama was when people got mad at her for saying not all TERFs are evil because she had a cool
TERF classmate (supposedly she didn't actually know what
TERF meant), and sometimes people ree on twitter and tumblr because they think she whitewashes characters/sucks at colouring black skin, but she never really aknowledges any of that so you can't call that milk.
No. 1377761
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>>1377751Literally first "callout" from the thread… what other colors they want in the picrew? How to even please people at this point? lmao
No. 1377800
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>>1377761I think those colors are okay? I don't get it, I don't really like her art style or whatever because she's as boring as drinking a flavorless glass of water, but what do the Twitter crew wants? Pic related? And it's funny because most kweertard picrews have literally the same colors that she put there, if not even less than those.
This is just yet another season of "I'm jealous because my art is shit and I don't want this relatively popular artist to get the spotlight for their talented shit or safe shit that keeps them with a constant influx of likes and asspats"
No. 1377880
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>>1377795Literally.
Side note, but These types of people are actually evil. Like, they make a post directing it to how horrible said person is, exaggerating because they want said person to be humiliated/ruined. The fact that there’s more and more call out posts for the most mundane shit is why im too scared to post my art
No. 1377918
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anoyone else just utter dogshit at cartoons and anime? I have a decent semi-realism style but my cartoon/anime faces look like bowls of alphabet soup with the features floating around. For some reason I cant figure out, I have no trouble setting and balancing facial features if it's semi/realism, but as soon as it gets to the abstract lines of anime shit, my stuff comes out looking like a 7th grader did it at lunch break. I thought that since I'd mastered the fundamentals, it'd translate easily into "simpler" styles but I guess fucking not. Banging my head on my desk.
No. 1377923
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>>1377751Damn, lavendertowne based? Also I don't like her art but those are really retarded reasons to cancel someone
No. 1378023
>>1377918Lmao, I’ve noticed this with some of my personal fav realism artists who also can’t draw anime.
I’m beginning to think that it’s a mindset thing because you learn realism based on rules/structure in our world- Compare that to stylized art which “breaks” or simplifies shapes.
No. 1378323
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the current situation on pixiv
No. 1378350
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>>1378344>>1378336we are at step 3 not btw
No. 1378362
>>1378350>>1376928That happens to me too, though my traditional art is not better by much. I wonder if getting a display tablet or a bigger tablet would improve my digital art skills.
>>1378350My only problem with this theory is that this person doesn't seem to know what "extreme leftism" is and conflates it with neoliberalism which is fucking retarded since they are fundamentally opposed to each other. Also, I don't see how tradfags AKA right-wingers wouldn't push for the return of legalized child marriage in their own way if something like this were to happen.
No. 1378714
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>>1378350Moids don't need it to be normalised when you can get things like this just by googling but they'd definitely embrace it if it happened
No. 1378740
>>1377751Most of the stuff about her, looking at
>>1377761 is absolutely psychotic. I don't know who this girl is, but from an art perspective, as someone who is looking at it without twitter SJW goggles, a lot of this seems massively embarrassing to call controversy. Cringe, but I'm mostly so over the complaints of 'whitewashing' when the character doesn't look white in the least, including fanart of a real person. Someone's interpretation doesn't equal
racism when it's obvious that their style and their color ranges differ in tone, but for their style, the tone fits for the race. It's the pastel issues all over again and it comes down to the people making these threads wanting hyper saturated obvious race colors and it's such a tired and art stifling complaint.
No. 1378776
>>1377464Pick whichever platform you like
Worst case scenario is 4chan/LC/CC
No. 1378809
>>1378802I would not call
>>1378323 CP. You have girls with tits here, like big tits.
No. 1378823
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>>1378817samefag, like how these look realistic, theres pictures on pixiv that show realistic scantily-clad children. That's what I meant. It's still uploaded on Pixiv and that's what the
nonny saying there was AI cp meant.
No. 1378835
>>1378812..I don't even know if this is even on topic with art anymore, but you might as well also be saying that women in their 50s shouldn't have sex for the same reason of 'dusty eggs'. In general, both sexes, are attracted to the ages 20s-30s. It's not a secret, it's not just men. Some of the AI that exists right now, can't get close to real CP. I don't considering drawn/generated art as CP and it needs to not be labeled that because it's absolutely confusing and even the FBI has said to stop reporting drawings as it wasters down real CP.
I don't see someone going through the effort of taking a photo of a kids face and superimposing it onto an adult's body, regardless of how under-developed the woman is, and using that to create fake CP. Also, fake CP. Do some of you anons not realize that
>>1378350 an adult with a face of a kid isn't going to cause any legal trouble to begin with? You can't criminalize someone getting off to adults just because of the face. If that were the case, then you would have a lot of Instagram models and OF models who use face tracking FaceTune type apps and the like, be criminalized for dishing out CP.
There are SO many loopholes to this radfem anti-AI manifesto. Also the fact that she basically says adult women are strapping men down to be groomed to become pedophiles and that it gets to a point where because adult women are doing this, that there is no space for CP and violence in porn. Not to mention completely disregarding male gender in both child and adult format being sexualized. It makes no sense and CP race related porn and hentai is the number one porn searches, not fake 'daddy/daughter' and 'incest'. A Google search could have told you that.
>>1378823Legally, nothing is being broken though, even if someone is using NovelAi and using the WaifuDiffusion to creates lolicon. it uses places like Danbooru and stuff. There's actual CP on pixiv that people just throw bevel filters over and post those. AI generate CP doesn't exist to this conspiracy level the way anons think it is because real CP, as you can see from the raids we get from scrotes on LC, is accessible. Doesn't make it right or okay, but they won't go through all these extra steps and then if the extra steps involves altering an adult, that's not CP in the least.
No. 1378908
>>1378835>..I don't even know if this is even on topic with art anymore, but you might as well also be saying that women in their 50s shouldn't have sex for the same reason of 'dusty eggs'. Are women in their 50s creeping on young men en masse? No, no they aren't. If they were, though, it wouldn't be wrong to say the same thing.
Also, you're wrong on the AI art thing, at least re: superimposing faces. Examples can inadvertently be found very easily, and that's why all this shit is dodgy. I'm undecided on what stance to take on the matter of AI art in general (I support it as a creative tool, but am wary of the bad things it could be used for), but that radfem post is not the least bit as infeasible as we'd all like it to be. That's all I have to say.
No. 1378932
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I'm kind of confused right now so I came to your aid.
Some weeks ago a client came telling me they wanted some drawings of 20 different characters, all in individual canvases.
I started doing one, he paid for one, no problemo so far. When I was working on drawing number 6 dude tells me that it's actually for a videogame he's making. I felt like I was being used like a retard (which I am) so I instantly said to him that commercial use must be paid for each drawing, the ones that I've made and the future ones.
He told me that it was alright and proceeded to give me the next reference, he paid and I told him he could paid the commercial rights once I'm done with all of the drawings.
I proceed to finish the drawing he requested, he told me that he liked it so I naturally waited for him to send me the next reference but nothing. I wait three days and send him a reminder in case if he still wants the remaining drawings and he tells me that he forgot to reply, so I wait for the rest of the message but again, nothing. And that was like four days ago.
Should I send a reminder again or let it go? it's a really indie project so he's probably not making and income from my drawings but still lol
No. 1378950
>>1378932if he paid for all the drawings you did, there's no problem here. if he wants to drop the project that's his business. don't do any other work for him until he replies.
in the future, you should definitely ask clients what the project is/sign a contract if they're asking for multiple drawings.
No. 1379147
>>1379013ntayrt but when it comes to large scale projects I wouldn't hesitate to whip out a contract. TOS is cool and all but that persons proved that not everyone is going to either fully read it or abide by that. Contracts are neat tho bc you can put clauses in them that state specific things like how many free revisions a client can get before you start charging them. Plus with a signed contract you cant have asshole clients claim that they didn't know something because you'll have proof that they acknowledge your terms, before you even start a single sketch. It's more so for your safety as an artist so that you don't get screwed out of your time, money, and work.
Other than that, if they've already paid for the work you've done and decide to ghost you now, let them. It's not your job to chase after a client. But it does seem kind of fishy they've dropped it. My immediate fear is they've contacted another artist and are using the piece you've made as example art so they can complete their project but at a possibly cheaper price.
No. 1379189
>>1379086Yeah, you don't think these people will be able to access a massive part of the web to create these? Thats why it's all open source so people can flag this stuff. It takes things from pintrest and that's a massive harbored for CP and not just drawn lolicon CP I mean. It depends on the AI you are using, but just like how people are able to use pintrest to host CP in their galleries under the guise of other forms of art or boards, people will do that with anything they can get their hands on as long as it can host real versions of things. Thats why this idea that conflicting drawn lolicon to real CP is such a fucking issue. We need to stop focusing on the drawn aspect and a small niche who like kids like lolicon. General pedos don't give a fuck about proxy and care about the IRL kids only.
The same way I mentioned how people put bevel filters over real CP and post it to pixiv and because it's edited, it looks like it's 'drawn' when it's not.
>>1379150Literally just like this anons says, it's sucks to go to these art sites and all you see if real CP shit everywhere under these edited filters to pass off as 'art' when it's obviously not.
No. 1381420
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>>1380752Discord is a popularity wank where 1 or 2 people flood the #art-chat channel and 80% of the time, the server's owner isn't around for chit-chat. As an artist, you know who's pressing RT and "the art supporters" there sure aren't doing it.
No. 1381476
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Can someone explain why some people are mad at this I’m stupid
No. 1381483
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>>1381476It took me forever, and I hate that I know what it is. It's a well-known loli guro gif that they are referencing.
No. 1381491
>>1381476I've been on the internet for far too long to be able to recognize that in a second…
I hate mainstream twitter art
No. 1381694
>>1380752Discord art servers or just discord servers in general tend to attract people with 0 communication skills who usually just spam gifs and emojis. The format itself isn’t bad but the user base is so casual since it’s for gaming.
So for a project I could see why OP is annoyed even if it’s as casual as a zine it’s just not professional.
No. 1381805
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what is this type of painterly artstyle called? i want to look more into it but not sure what to search for
No. 1382003
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>>1381983You're retarded if you think this is what they looked like in those cultures or that it even has origins in them specifically. She just said she was choosing from ancient names, it's completely random. this is just her messy attempt of making a hentai monster girl but tying random shit together that have nothing to do with each other. But oh well, I just wanted to vent about her shitty art
No. 1382018
>>1381951I don't watch her anymore but her designs have always seemed fine to me but I'm shocked to see her do something like this. Her previous succubus was risque at best but still cute. I agree this does seem coomerish and lazy. When I saw the concept art below I had to do a double take because I didn't even think it was hers
>>1382014Was going to say this too.
No. 1382185
>>1382162You need to calm down and someone did mention loli
>>1381485 since they said 'pedo'.
No. 1382204
>>1382185Yes, but no one said that the problem was only the pedo aspect.
>>1382115 was implying that we were saying that it would have been fine if it wasn't a pedo gif and nothing is lewd anyway uwu (it is). And I am calm, it's just that moids who think that depictions of female children getting dismembered alive are funny need to neck themselves, simple as that.
No. 1382339
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I don’t know anything about Genshit but why are people attacking the artist for this? It’s just an angsty AU.
No. 1382362
>>1382209Exactly, the gif, just like anything gore related, is fucking disgusting.
>>1382185Since you think it's "hilarious"
>>1382115>I found it hilariousRemember that this is a reference to gore, which is getting put in the fanart of an anime that's popular as fuck, if you think that's hilarious then get some fucking taste already and stop hanging out with moids. That reference is the equivalent of putting censored porn or gore pictures amongst cute pictures of cats and dogs, a bunch of people who are normies or kids will look it up and it's not "haha funnee" it's fucked up and retarded.
No. 1382365
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>>1382339Looks like the crazies got to him. Posted this just two minutes ago:
https://twitter.com/sunuuki1/status/1583607504369381376 No. 1382386
>>1382383People in real life don’t have to project themselves onto anime characters dealing with slavery just to feel something. I’m sick of Twitter having an aneurysm over anything slightly
problematic but this is a retarted hill to die on kek.
No. 1383007
>>1382365>today I learned that using this kind of theme to express yourself, that in no way means you support slavery, will only backfire on youYep welcome to twitter. Sensitive themes are depicted in media all the time, and many of them are in poor taste yes, but twittards especially of the genshit variety don't know or care about how these topics can be handled less poorly. Like not supporting slavery and depicting it as an issue, like this artist is claiming they did, and exploring how a world set in a past era like genshit would have slavery. Nope you are bad and evil forever for daring to depict it reeee. If they're indiscriminately
triggers all the time I wonder why they keep playing it and interacting with fan made stuff, do they like the pain kek
No. 1383010
>>1383007same fag
triggered not
triggers No. 1383074
>>1383062where do so many twittertards come from? Everytime you gatekeep a controversial topic some moid makes 30 fanfictions about it to
trigger retards like you
No. 1383176
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This artist got (arguably rightfully) upset that someone was heavily referencing her works. Still people are attacking her saying it’s not a big deal.
No. 1383206
>>1382570>>1382826>>1382847Try using a chain blocker with chain muting when the first instance of a tranny follows you. It helped me avoid whole circles of them.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/red-block/I use this one.
No. 1383271
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>>1361298I have so much hate in my heart for this coom bait character but a dating sim? Most low effort game one can make, really thought this trend was dying out in the indie scene but I guess not.
No. 1383398
>>1382383I'm not defending the backlash. I'm just explaining why people might have an issue with it.
In general I think it's hard to write a good story without having sensitive elements in them.
But I'm not really defending the artist either. I haven't seen this AU so I have no idea how the subject is handled. I don't have an opinion on this specific controversy
No. 1383474
>>1382570It’s been noted that as long as you don’t involve yourself TOO much with the fans/followers you should be fine.
Like
>>1382826 said what is your end goal. I you want to get into industry then you’re better off paying attention and interacting with the really dry parts of the industry but if you want to make commissions don’t be too overtly involved with politics on your art account and don’t put your life on your account.
No. 1383498
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>>1383176I think people are upset about something else kek
No. 1383637
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>>1383498Read through the thread and it looks like they're a coomer shotacon with a tranny fetish.
>>1383398Don't worry anon. People like that are willfully oblivious to why people would be "sensitive" to "sensitive" subjects. People who are sensitive to these subjects just play it up on Twitter, in real life, they're not as severe. You'd think it'd be obvious to get that.
No. 1383873
>>1382570don’t listen to any advice given in this thread, 99.99% of the time anons are pretty retarded and never know what they are talking about, their brains are built for speculation and tinfoils only, except listen to me. it’s not the right time to make an account, it’s not the moment, and don’t force it, this is what people are never telling people who want to get some success on online platforms or even some sip of actual tangible success, there is no opportunity you can seize right now or in the foreseeable future because the online art market is already over saturated and honestly over abundant in its value. lots of people who have lots of success fulfill a niche like drawing porn, teaching normies on how to draw, making art commentary, putting vlogs surrounding their art. normies do not give a fuck or understand the organic value of your drawings, they need something to attach to it, some bullshit or fantasy to make them want to care which is why people over share and foster parasocial relationships with their fans now, they are online personalities. art itself is no longer what people are seeking, there is always strings attached. you can try now, and maybe it will work but trust me it will not fulfill you or give you what you want, social media fucking sucks
No. 1383970
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>>1383965Samefag, but not only that, the starting points are completely different. Going up, the main circle matches the one on the right identically in sperate spots I checked, then as the line moves, the colors are shift, so what the fuck did this asshole think they were on just because things look similar? How has no one done this with codes yet to prove him wrong?
No. 1383974
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>>1383970>>1383965Sorry again, but just to add, going through the QRTs, this is apparently also a pose in game that the chick is complaining about
No. 1384039
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>>1383678Their twitter and tumblr username is kaeirou. But most of their artwork is gone.
I think it's interesting though how they also had an NSFW pixiv, and purged all of their artwork. Makes you think maybe they were hiding something after they saw the other splatoon artist got called out for NSFW as well.
No. 1384068
>>1384039 was meant for
>>1383848>>1384049My bad anon. Kaeirou is the accused and Chronokos was the accuser.
No. 1384127
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>>1384125I apologize
nonnie; here it is spoilered.
No. 1384207
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The irony, coming from an artist that has sameface syndrom on every damn work she pulls off. All of her takes scream entitled and annoying.
No. 1384429
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>>1384326Seeing as how Danbooru is the hotspot for AI routines, I'm betting that December is the (un)lucky month where we see bootleg clones of existing people.
Having diligent fans is gonna be a detriment.
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I hate seeing artist thinking there followers equal good art. This art looks like it’s done by a middle schooler and the entitlement to a job many spend years getting a masters or bachelors on is insane
No. 1384727
>>1384515 Lol, these types are competition, and a threat to no one. Lots of followers doesnt equal good work, or an art related job, especially now with the industry getting gutted. Twitter and tumblr are both flooded with these types. Unremarkable style, same line up posing, heavy line weights, same style of paint tool sai, pastel bullshit coloring, and so on. No studio is looking for that mess. Most art on Twitter are the samey, unremarkable, mainstream garbage. Very few artist are real standouts.
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>>1384736I had to look up that term. Men are disgusting.
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>>1384344I’m not worried when it churns out shit like this, I’m more deeply annoyed by the unpaid unauthorized training on artists and then reaping profits, that’s the biggest and most scummy issue. It’s straight up exploiting artists.
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>>1384820If this is what’s going to replace artists, then good luck.
No. 1384832
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>>1384826it's stuff like this that worries me. i have technical training as a writer, but most people are retards who only read at a fourth or fifth grade level. (This is the reading level general circulation newspapers publish at.)
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7g5yq/students-are-using-ai-to-write-their-papers-because-of-course-they-are No. 1384865
>>1384854It doesn’t seem like it’s been fun for a good 10 years.
Note: boredom and overstimulation punctuated by quick, addiction-like dopamine pulses does not count as fun.
No. 1384885
>>1384854Art is a hobby if you have a boring job and you blitz through games too fast.
Does Twitter encourage drawing the same character 30 times, yes. Is mutual culture mastabatory and uninterested in new people, yes. Are memes like
>>1381476 obnoxious, yes. Are skimpy girls popular, yes. Should you care about any of these? No.
No. 1384909
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Sigh they're at it again, but it's ironic to trash a landscape painting in the name of climate change, isn't the natural landscape what we want to preserve? Trash paintings of factories or something. If you want attention via stunts do stunts related to your activism, or the idiots who think climate change isn't real will think you're the idiots.
No. 1384935
>>1384909My fav part is how they are preaching to the choir. Every random person on the street either gets it now or is never going to listen.
If they truly wanted to change anything they’d go after corporations and the leaders of those corporations. Why don’t they trash corporate property or logos, deface their advertisements?
My cynical take is that they’re just trying to drum up funding for their activist organization that’s just laundering it or pocketing it. This type of shit doesn’t cause change, it just destroys history and culture which is probably also a bonus to these idiots.
Why don’t they go and plant a communal garden in a golf course? Why don’t they plant trees on corporate land? I’m not even a fucking activist and I can think of better more impactful activities! Why is going after historical paintings the go to now? I want to see their working because it just seems bratty and performative with no substance or thought.
No. 1385429
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Kayozia, a "notable" arcylic charm maker for 5 years has gone on a full meltdown because the hole she dug for herself and marketing to an obviously SWFW market and pandering to things that attract children dislike her "new direction" in making a slightly nsfw boob mouse pad. She only lost 200 followers (out of her 26.6 Thousand followers) and obvious bootlickers and white knights who'd buy literally anything she makes.
What possesses an artist to get so in their heads and think they can 180 their career because it was stressing them out? Nobody was forcing them, especially concidering she had a very devoted fan base.
She admited to her 26.6k follower base on public stories that she has bipolar and is full manic rn and went on to say she tried to grt herself hospitalized last year simply because she felt like she could make anything other than her charms. Yet.. She's obviously made more than charms and were atleast mostly successful in selling..
I'd love to see her delete these stories at least it's blatant pity begging
No. 1385535
>>1385429Just sounds like fans or old buyers throwing fits because they want the artist to remain uwu wholesome their own creative life and never grow up, and if she makes cute boob shit, good, I how the people who still follow will buy it.
I can also understand with making a public post about people complaining about the direction a shop is going. Not a meltdown, but addressing it. There could be others who feel the same way but aren't vocal or didn't unfiltered who might want clarity. Some just don't want to see advertised boob charms on their TL.
In general, both seem dumb, but addressing it is good. Just.. not the meltdown and fans neeeeeed to stop harassing artists for drawing NSFW or other things they don't normally do like horror or a horror artist drawing uwu stuff.
No. 1385619
>>1384690>>1384736I've suggested this and someone countered with "scrotes like that, too. There's no winning." From experience, scrotes like literally any kind of female attention. They missed the point, which is to stop caring about what the scrotes think. Plenty of scrotes get whiny about reverse ryona, and it's fun seeing them cry while you double down.
>>1384812>>1384818Ryona-loving dudes are always like this. They KNOW they're disgusting for liking this and try to sound like a machoor intellekshual about their tastes when they can't confront their violent tendencies towards women (or whine about the law not letting them get away with it completely). Meanwhile, I'm a sadistic woman who likes seeing men in discomfort. My entire reason for learning how to draw was to draw things that fuck with scrotes. I make no excuses. Men are fucking weak.
No. 1385627
>>1384854If the internet weren't dominated by social media on the level of Twitter, it would be fun again. deviantArt and even Myspace were much better. Personal websites, niche forums, art communities.
>>1385021Women in this bracket can be better or worse depending on where you find them. Pay attention to who they're friends with. If you're making the mistake of doing this on Twitter, the late 20s-30s women who have a lot of zoomers as friends are ones to avoid. They tend to use those as their personal armies.
No. 1385679
>>1384207Second renaissance of traditional incoming me hopes.
Leave the screens! Return to the fingerpaints!
No. 1385755
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>>1385627>If the internet weren't dominated by social media on the level of Twitter, it would be fun again. deviantArt and even Myspace were much better. Personal websites, niche forums, art communities.Feel like pure shit I just want her back
No. 1385757
>>1385755Kek. Sometimes I go check on the profiles of my old DeviantArt friends. Half of them are deactivated, the rest posted their last piece of art in 2013 - 2014. Heartbreaking. I miss them so much.
We were like 20 people in all who shared art, did art trades, roleplayed, wrote personal stories or worked on stories together. I remember rushing home from school just so I could get online and start creating. I met some of them irl and we posted pictures of our meetups in Scraps and talked about it for ages. The nostalgia, man.
No. 1385861
>>1385755Unfortunately we abandoned her, she's not coming back. I wished there were spaces that weren't eventually overrun with literal children, that's my issue. There's cohost and pillowfort but those places aren't conductive to community, they feel dead.
Sharing art online really isn't fun anymore if the only place you post is social media though. You really do just have to do it because you yourself think it's fun and share with people you trust. That's why so many artists break off into smaller private discord servers and spaces inaccessible to the general public. Discord sucks for a lot of reasons but that really is one of the solutions. It makes the internet as a whole kind of a husk outside of the big social platforms.
No. 1386537
>>1381951So many dolltubers are libfem pickmes pandering to scrotes. It makes no sense because their entire audience is young women and girls.
Serious question.. are there any dolltubers who aren't pickmes or campy gay men?
No. 1386543
>>1386540I'm a woman and I don't even know wtf board that even is or which fucking site, anon. Legally, what AI creates can't really be taken to court because it's not real, even if real kids from pintrest, like I mentioned, are being used because the software still applies 3D, unreal, effects. If this were something illegal, 3D models, a lot of them, wouldv'e had guys arrested already. You don't need to call people scrotes just because they are talking about the legality of this shit. You just sound stupid, accusatory, and literally can't see the difference in what the courts would give a fuck about or what laws exist where these unfortunately can't be dealt with. Unless new laws pass where these AIs aren't allowed to feed real people at all, nothing will change. For these scrotes, it's barely passing material, but enough for them, but you have people with photos of feet of just kids and they get off to that on pintrest. No one is pretending the issue doesn't exist and I feel sick knowing they can access outside IRL photos for these, but until the programs can also only use real photos and not churn out mashed 2D and 3D because of it, it won't be considered CSEM. It'll just boil down to 'creeps use 3D tech to make CP that's not CP, but almost CP'.
I don't know what answer you want, anon. the outrage over it is understandable, but discussing why these losers won't get in trouble, is also important. It leads to how laws can figure out HOW to get them in trouble.
No. 1386550
>>1386548Then what else was the issue? There are
women and men who feed male children into these too. Why even greentext that and pretend it isn't happening? They are
victims too.
Yes, the radfem who wrote that is absolutely on some dumbass shit, describing a dystopian furture where women have voluntarily fored men to watch CP and then suffer from their own demise they created [the fuck logic is this shit? Did you even read the Tumblr screenshot anon, posted and not realize the backwards idealization of how this so-called future they see coming is coming from the hands of women according to them?] That Tumblr post basically blamed women for men being how they are towards the end, lol.
And yeah, it's statistically accurate that most ages are attracted to the average 20-30 range when it comes to what they deem 'attractive'.
What exactly if you complaint? You can't even verbally put it out, instead you greentext ad expect people to understand context when you can't even actually articulate what you're complaint is.
No. 1386555
>>1386549>>1386533Samefag, Let me redirect you for more context
>>1379189not a single anon in this whole thread said that real CP isn't being fed to these AIs.
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>>1386544>There's already talks about this from artists looking to pursue legal action.i am really curious about this. NovelAI is very obvious about it to the point where you can get random generated characters and very obviously pinpoint where the hair/eyes are from, pic related hair is very obviously from a kemono friends fanart.
No. 1386560
>>1386550Your insistence that old female pedos training AI on little boys is
as big of an issue as men doing the same is very male.
This is almost exclusively a moid issue.
I read the post, I don't see anywhere where she describes women tricking men into watching CP and getting them arrested. Sounds like your male persecution complex jumping out, are you also paranoid of false rape accusations? LMAO. It's other exhibitionist men who flood online spaces with their fetish material. Maybe you wouldn't be so blind to it if you weren't marinading in it all day long.
>>1386551I am missing your deduction that transformative CP is no longer cp because it's so ghoulish.
No. 1386564
>>1386560Tumblr post did, please read it all the way through. Literally my friend and I were laughing because of how ridiculous the whole 0-60 thing was. Became women writing their own daughters into it willingly.
And I didn't say it was goulish. Gotta stop adding extra context when it wasn't there to begin with. I'm saying, because it's not a whole child, basically still 'art' unfortunately, the law wouldn't care. The LAW wouldn't step in unless it was because illustrated art, even AI, is under freedom of speech. If it was a single child being used, straight up photos, no mish-mash of other kids to create anything and it wasn't through an AI, then it could probably be taken as real CP by the FBI. I know you want to talk hypotheticals, but I'm not doing that. I'm talking about how it can be taken legally now, not in the future of what could be. I'm as outraged about this as well, but I'm also not on some other plain of reality like you.
>>1386557Tags. Open source means access to the tags used and a lot of artists are seeing themselves in prompts. They can also easily use websites to look up if their names have been fed into these systems.
No. 1386576
>>1386564>And I didn't say it was goulishYou didn't, I did. It's ghoulish to say that photobashed CP is "art". I don't care if you're trying to blackpill me. And you're probably not, since you're most likely a concern-trolling moid.
Photorealistic 3dcg/illustrated child porn is already illegal, why are you so hellbent on saying ai CP collages (using real images of real children) are "art" and will be protected by the law?
You're on another plane of fucking reality because you started out finger wagging about us insane radfems fretting over AI CP because it "doesn't exist". Well it does and you're backtracking because you're retarded and embarrassing.
No. 1386592
>>1386572Not in all countries though. This isn't an all or nothing thing, anon.
>>1386576It's art because of the way it's gone through a program, anon. By proxy it's called art even when it's not art. Same way artists doing this with SFW stuff like trees and cars are still calling their stuff art. Unfortunately, that's the description on top of saying it's CP. Photography is also art, not drawn, but okay.
No. 1386615
>>1386610>Stay mad that CP isn't banned in every country feminanzi!! You started this conversation claiming that it didn't even exist and now it's like you're reveling in the fact that it does and you think nothing can be done about it.
You diminish the problem, damage control, and blame women for taking an equal part (lmao) and when proven wrong you dig in your heels over semantics.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Oh yeah you're a scrote.
No. 1386635
>>1386615I didn't say it didn't exist.
>>1386618No one said that either. Its at a point where legally no one will do anything. It's still new in that aspect.
No. 1386692
>>1386635The last time you had this argument, your only response was "W-Well women might make shota too", you were mad that it was pointed out that old men have useless,
toxic sperm and shouldn't be reproducing with young/healthy fertile women, and now it's some weird "Well women will totally trick the poor men into watching CP, so it's not men's fault, btw it's ackchcually art so it's not illegal. Stop thinking about the future femoid, even though the whole conversation is about the future! Only think about now!". Do you have autism or something? Can't you go chop off your dick?
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>>1386608(picrel is sfw, the guy is just bleeding from the mouth and i know some people don't like seeing stuff like this)
Nta but im an artist who also likes drawing men bloodied and distressed, and my gateway was getting into psychological horror and just normal horror medias, have a look at the cuties with ouchies thread maybe for some inspo on what medias are popular with this type of stuff!
No. 1386964
>>1386692Yeah.. I'm not gonna have this conversation anymore because you're just blowing through talking points that I didn't in bring up. I'd love to actually discuss with people on these threads about the dangers of AI currently but not when anons are purposely ignoring the discussion and think it's about enabling.
>>1386698Isn't this just superhero comics then? No women is in this photo beating him up. Just looks like a chauffeur who got his ass kicked by a gang.
No. 1387114
>>1386608This is going to be a blogpost.
w/o powerleveling too much, I came from a state in the USA that used to be #1 for femicide. It's still in the top #5, and I think that's only from an influx of people out-of-state padding out the numbers.
I learned from a very early age, from my mother and female relatives, to put myself and women first, to tolerate nothing from men, and to be wary of handmaidens. Men in my state would get minor sentences on crimes of passion for killing out of jealousy. I have a scrote from my dad's(who I am in the process of dealing with for mistreating my stepmother) side who is free because he shot my friend's mom when she spotted him with another man in the car. Other man turned out to be her brother.
Only conflict I ever had was when I'd have handmaidens for teachers who would tell me how I should behave, or friends who had handmaiden/NLOG tendencies who'd say things to put me in my place. Fortunately, shit got fixed once I got home. It was either due to my relatives talking about shit people got into, which stemmed from a men; or going online, talking to males, and realizing their vapid, disposable nature.
The combination of my matron's devotion to a sexist religion confused me, but only told me that women are better for shaping religion and culture, not men.
I don't hate men because it takes effort. I find them useless unless they answer to a woman who isn't an NLOG.
What I like to draw: I like drawing cool, sexy women and cute, docile men who have strong bodies (not grotesquely buff, but defined and fit) and pretty faces.
If I'm drawing a picture of a woman, it's usually her being comfy, in her element, maybe with pinup elements or soft nudity.
If I'm drawing a picture of a man, I draw him to look like a treat for a woman. He's either the viewer's accessory, or the accessory of the woman in the picture. I also want to draw more things like
>>1386698 with the implication that the man is up against an actual proper opponent and putting his naturally violent tendencies to good use. Maybe he's going fisticuffs with a monster or just won a 1 vs 10 fight against a bunch of lesser scrotes.
I like drawing yuri and het. I may draw yaoi for a friend, but I'd prefer for a woman to be in that mix. My het always has femdom elements, even if it's just by posturing, or the stares.
My reverse ryona will have the woman looking cool. Maybe she's frilly. Maybe she's sexy. Maybe she's slick-haired GNC type who's shy until it's time to catch hands. Maybe she's a wild woman who embraces fashion that just so happens to scare men. And the man? Who knows wtf he got into. He looks good because all of the ugly and useless men are already dead in my world. He's being beaten because he needs to be reminded of why he's allowed to exist.
You need outlets, nonna. Even if no one ever sees the pictures you draw (although the space needs more of them; I'm in the process of trying to go public), you need that outlet. Running away from your shadow isn't healthy, especially when you have a creative outlet for it. Your muse will love it.
No. 1387360
>>1373099 this is so much more disingenuous to anyone who listens to her garbage 'make art don't starve' podcast with lilstarnerd. her acting like she 'didn't want to release this video' and just did it on an emotional whim is clearly looking for sympathy and pity points when not even a week prior on her podcast talking about hate comments she mentioned how she had already decided she was going to make a video about her influx of "hate comments" - most of which are just genuine
valid criticism of how most of her $ doesn't come from "making art" like how she frames it, but by convincing young dumb amateurs that she makes money from her art so they'll buy her BS overpriced Notion templates "for artists". she's a grifter and it fucking shows and there is no doubt in my mind she lurks here/obsessively searches her name because she is that much of an obvious narc.
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>>1384854>>1385627>>1385755sorry for bad screenshots and collage, graphic art is my passionI was browsing old LJ communities as one do and saw this very short discussion about social media platforms from 2012.
These comments are over 10 years old but I still agree with them.
I think it's really odd that there never really came a community-geared social media site after LJ. There is Reddit, which has the perfect layout for discussion but most fandom oriented subs seems more interested in reposting art, and there is dreamwidth, which no one uses.
It just seems like the general public has no interests in community based social media anymore and would rather just get things as fast as possible before the go over to the next thing. I think the third comment is spot on when they call it short-form content distribution.
Sorry if this got odd topic but my point is that this may have affected the online art community too
No. 1387560
>>1386698horror can be such a misogynistic genre i've avoided getting too much into it, i wish there were more female horror artists and creators. i check out that thread occasionally but now i will study it closely!
>>1387114thank you. i really do feel mentally blocked from seriously dedicating myself to art. you sound based as hell.
>If I'm drawing a picture of a man, I draw him to look like a treat for a woman. He's either the viewer's accessory, or the accessory of the woman in the picture.exactly what i'm interested in exploring, i want to contribute to the amount of images out there of men sexualized in a way to mirror how men sexualize women (though the obvious truth is women don't dehumanize men in art like men do when drawing women).
No. 1387703
>>1386713Wasn’t there an art salt bingo? Lol we should bring it back.
>>1387114I got second hand cringe from this post. I was going to say it’s off topic until you talked about drawing.
No. 1387782
>>1373099just seeing the thumbnail
triggers me. i fucking hate this greasy bitch so much. i'm tired of seeing her unshowered ass in my feed all the damn time. this video was nothing but her fishing for compliments to feed her narcissistic supply. the comment she showed that tore into her about her lack of experience as a working artist was right. she's not an artist, she's a video editor and needs to use some of that $6k or whatever she claims to make per month to buy some goddamn shampoo.
No. 1387807
>>1387224Hey, not as based as you.
>>1387560I love horror, but I felt this sentiment, too. Also, you're right. With some exceptions, women tend to reduce men to something like pets or accessories in most cases. Men go into full hate mode and act persecuted if someone calls it out.
Your post reminded me of someone I knew. Great artist and loved seeing guys in desperate situations short of full-blown guro. However, she went into full handmaiden mode if you joked about men, even if it was just some comment like 'yeah they're terrible drivers.' Came to the conclusion that she was addicted to male approval and was ashamed of her tastes. That's why it's good to have self-awareness about yourself when you take on these topics as an artist.
>>1387703she asked, I answered. cringe all you like, but learn when to sage
>>1387737> please also draw "real" looking mid moids getting horribly mutilated and beatenWill do. Next year's resolution is to improve my male anatomy. I just wanted to stick to drawing good-looking men, but you've given me a reason to expand. The idea alone feels cathartic.
No. 1387811
>>1387451I miss these days. They're right. The art communities on LJ were better than what we have now, and LJ still wasn't good for art aside from webcomics.
I really want to advocate for artists to consider learning how to make their own websites as an outlet. Static hosting is cheap, if not free. If they must use social media, use it to post updates and drive traffic.
>There is Reddit, which has the perfect layout for discussion but most fandom oriented subs seems more interested in reposting artThis is something I've noticed throughout several social media platforms that's often lamented over and joked about: the reposter getting more praise than the original creator. It could work so well for free advertising if the reposters would bother citing the source. Some do, many won't. Reverse image search works, but I feel like the unwillingness to put in the extra effort to at least drop the account name makes it worse.
No. 1387904
>>1387897she's the reason i now always check people's portfolios before bothering watching any art advice video. at this point i only want your advice if you make a lot of finished pieces AND they're technically good AND they're varied and interesting. Otherwise why are you putting yourself in the teacher role if you're struggling with quality or quantity or both?
>>1387811>consider learning how to make their own websites as an outleti feel a little silly asking this but what kind of features do you think are useful in a personal art website? i have one but it's just a gallery with a few links and an email form and i feel like i'm not utilizing it very well
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name a bigger cow
No. 1388233
>>1387815>>1387817They project so much onto women, it's hysterical. I saw metric fucktons of that when I used to be a hentai artist.
>>1387904I really wish the pre-social media gallery websites were still around to provide a wider variety of examples, though there are some lying around.
The "less is more" approach for a website that mainly serves as your art gallery holds true. You want to make sure your layout compliments your art. I've seen it to where people would even style pages around a piece, but this is really only a good idea if you're also trying to showcase your markup and web design skills, or it's just fun for you to do so. I've seen these work well in the past, but they worked better for illustrators who were also multimedia artists, or people pushing a character brand.
Like
>>1388004 said, having some text that talks about your art is important, at least with title and date. An "About Me" page is a good idea if you don't have one that talks about your process or chosen tools, whatever you want to share.
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>1 like
I’m tired of artists throwing fits over obvious trolls. No one knew what was going on until you posted it. tinfoil the artist herself made that bait acc for pity points
No. 1388581
>>13838491. you're a retard
2. no one said anything about american slavery specifically. Slavery still exist in Africa and in modern Arab countries
No. 1388838
>>1388417yeah, this is sus. the person whitewashing only has one like, how would this popular artist come across this tiktok??
her youtube career took off because she was actually targeted by racists for drawing black kiki from kiki's delivery service, but that was years ago. i doubt trolls are still targeting her
No. 1388929
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Is this true? If so that’s really messed up.
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>>1388929The accuser is literally an unhinged furry…
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All because she said it was weird to sexualize a pony cartoon for kids.
No. 1389371
>>1386698Nonnie I don't know if you know this about the artist whose work you posted but she has a nsfw twitter full of trans shit and specifically of the character you posted drawn as trans to be put through dubcon/noncon-looking shit, breeding kink, and in general when she draws characters as trans it's to put them through sexualized violence of some kind (sometimes with a vague racist undertone of "uwu soft white upperclass
woman trans man being
raped engaging in rough sex with the tough savage indigenous men" (character is from a game with indigenous characters and that doesn't treat the racism they're put through in-game particularly well)).
Tldr this artist sees the character you posted as a
woman trans guy and draws
her him being sexually brutalized. Like she's very much an un-based misogynistic degen.
No. 1389382
>>1389371sage for samefagging but even if she rationalizes it as "oh it's not dubcon/noncon/racist I'm just inspired by tacky erotica" (even though tacky erotica is ripe with rape/sexualized violence/racism because of course it is) people have eyes we can see how they look (I'm unfortunate enough to orbit the fandoms she's in and I see her nsfw art too much for my liking).
Also most drawings of this character (Pathologic's Bachelor Dankovsky) being beaten/bloodied/bruised come from TiF coomers who see him as trans and put him through sexual/sexualized violence in ways they wouldn't the characters they headcanon as male. Chances are it's just bad.
No. 1389428
>>1388838>her youtube career took off because she was actually targeted by racistsSo she keeps milking art race discourse because that exactly the thing people know her for. She's basically just "
the art race discourse youtuber", so it makes sense for her to keep milking the race stuff if clout is what she wants
No. 1389437
>>1388971I don't think anything is inherently wrong with creating serial killer OCs (Yoshikage Kira and Johan Liebert can be considered as such and imho are interesting characters). However, I think there is an issue when you heavily base either their appearances or specific characteristics on very real serial killers. Hell, I remember seeing a lot of edge killer OCs back on deviantart but they were usually just edgy kids making an anime girl hold a knife splattered with blood.
I recently found a young artist on youtube whose art style I liked but noticed they have OCs that are Very reminiscent of Dahmer and potentially Bundy. I dug a little deeper at their older art and they also made fanart for the film My Friend Dahmer. You can say it's movie fanart all you want kid but we know. They even stated that somebody commented on their art asking if art of their OCs were shipping art of Bundy and Dahmer and they were like "guys i would never draw ship art of that".
No. 1389477
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Literally what are they accomplishing, glue your head to the building of a company with high emissions or something
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Does anyone actually care about protestors ‘defacing’ famous artworks (aka the glass covering the painted replicas of the original, whilst the original stays in storage to be preserved)? Nothing is going on. I bet the pearl earing protestors just thought ‘hey, these guys did that and it got a lot of coverage for no real reason, I should do too’. It isn’t some grand psy-op or whatever
No. 1389653
>>1389477I fucking hate when "activists" use real art as a prop for their useless protests.
You want some good protest material that will shock people? Cut your dick off in the middle of the street and throw it at some oil magnates. Maybe swim in the middle of an oil spill and do some dying seagull noises. But of course they never do shit like that because they will get sent to the ER or murdered, it's easier to do something retarded and then leave instead of doing something actually impactful.
No. 1389804
>>1389371>>1389382I always wonder about TIF artists who resort to this. Even if the transman is presented as "totally in control," he always being in a raped and degraded position. I guess the internalized misogyny is THAT pervasive.
>>1389428That's sad. Her kitschy style has a lot of potential, and some of her work would look good on merch. But she may have dug herself into too deep of a hole w/this kind of branding.
>>1389597>>1389643The only people who'd care about van goghs and wax sculptures of charles iii getting trashed are the same people who don't think climate change is real, AND who think "The Swing" by Jean-Honoré Fragonard is a family-friendly painting. These feel more like big oil trust fund babies out slumming.
No. 1390496
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how do you learn how to copy a style? i really like the 90's/pc98 anime style and i would like to become able to recreate it
No. 1390527
>>1389671where are there safe spaces online for minors to participate in fandom? trick question, there are none.
i agree that parents need to be more involved in their children's internet usage, but let's not pretend as if the male fans infesting the MLP fandom with their pornsickness was a neutral event
No. 1390532
>>1390317>>1390333There's a certain group that I had in mind when I wrote this, but I have no idea where to start when it comes to describing them. It's not simply "people who like classic art," but a particular group who embrace classical art as "the only real art" because they see it as a bastion against the rest of the world in terms of culture. While the rest of us think the "protest" is ridiculous, they likely gobbled it up as a genuine attack on culture.
The tl;dr of my tinfoil is that we all know this is staged, but it's done to validate the opinions of this particular group and not change minds.
I've just gone with the theory that anyone doing these kinds of protests for any amount of money aren't exactly bright, either.
No. 1390692
>>1389477just stop oil is funded by the establishment, one of gettys fucking funds it. don't even look at dazed, nona. they always had shit journalism since very start in the 90s.
>>1390571i think pc-98 games had illustrations done traditionally and then digitized, at least from what i saw in 4chan threads about it.
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>>1390692>i think pc-98 games had illustrations done traditionally and then digitized, at least from what i saw in 4chan threads about it.yeah that, dunno if its trad though, i have seen some that are digital. I am really interested in imitating the 90s anime look, there is something so charming about it in comparison to the more ayylmao shovel look they go for now
No. 1391053
>>1390571>>1390692>>1390753The majority of old pixel art was made either by scanning the art onto the computer (which, at the time, had limited pallets and tons of dithering), or created on the machine itself. The digitized art still had to be cleaned up.
If you want to do PC98 style, you can create a large image at a low resolution, scale it down using hard edges, and use modern pixel art techniques to push it further and touch it up. That's why I asked which software
>>1390496 used so that I could break it down or suggest tools that I have had experience with.
While it is in a different family, this is a
valid technique for pixel art, as pixel placement and limited color pallets still make the picture look stronger. There are also a number of pixel artists who use digitizing as a starting point to emulate old win98/pc98 looks.
No. 1391237
>>1391190This. Go for his style, tap into traditional themes to the market you're selling for. If you can blend in subtle religious cues with just enough exaggeration to make them feel cultured(lol) without making them think, even better.
>>1390753>ayylmao shovel lookplease I need to see examples of this so I can have this wonderful phrase properly defined and appreciate my own love of the pc98 style even more
No. 1391252
>>1381951I hate how she made another damn succubus. She already made the red demon lady and she makes another but purple?
Shes such a damn people pleaser you can tell. Its upsetting she tries new techniques and spends so much time on a doll that's literally just a mythological creature of a man's wet dream.
Theres so many interesting Halloween ideas she could've done and she chose this.
No. 1391273
>>1390753Seconding the ayylmao shovel thing
Also even though this art is very well done and looks a hundred times better than your average modern bishōjo art, I can't help but think that it's creepy because it's a teen girl drawn for coomers. It's a shame because otherwise I'd love this 100%
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>>1391053thanks, sorry for not answering i work with CSP. I think the limited color palete might be the hardest thing to imitate without hardware limits.
>>1391237for me its the lack of detail in modern anime, i used modern game cgs to contrast compared to their pc98 counterpart
>>1391273sadly yeah, all of the cool pc98 art is for porn VNs targeted atotakus, but so is anime
No. 1391631
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>>1391624also, i miss crazy anime hairstyles
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>>1391651they were more detailed for sure though, there even used to a distinction between larger nose for bolder characters and smaller buttong noses for younger, shy characters. Modern anime designs lack so much personality ''>'' nose> ''.'' nose
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>>1391658I definitely agree with that though. I think a lot of 90s anime hairstyles were straight up retarded, and anime girl anatomy sometimes made them look like plastic dolls, but aside from that, I love the detail put into it (plus, ironically, body proportions used to be more realistic). Modern bishoujo art looks so low effort. I've never read it (and don't plan to) but compare the art in the original YU-NO vs the remake. SOVLESS.
No. 1391722
>>1391688I see exactly what you mean. To me it comes across and very cheap and mass produced. Like in the before there was style and thought put into it, but now it's so cookie cutter no thought to it at all. No personality or care.
>>1391706Ugh you're so right. The remake makes her look like the weirdo girl in class hiding behind her hair but still trying to be "sexy".
No. 1391918
>>1391118Tying in with
>>1389371 and
>>1391839 all she draws is covert trans shit. One of the main male characters she draws she headcanons as "nonbinary transfemme" (just some guy in canon) and the other that she draws bloody/wounded/hurt in some way she headcanons as a woman– sorry, a trans guy (she almost never draws the one she thinks has a dick bloody/wounded/sexually assaulted on her nsfw twitter. How curious! I wonder why…). She doesn't talk about it overtly outside of specific posts and mostly her nsfw account (where most of her posts are about the one she headcanons as trans being put through what
>>1389371 and
>>1389382 describe) but once you know it, it feels very pointed. She can't post an OC once on main without 7 coom posts on the side. She keeps most of her bloody art on her nsfw but it's not fucking worth it sister.
No. 1391992
>>1391918 oh my god
nonnie this conversation made me go find her nsfw account again and i forgot how truly heinous it truly is, about this time last year i had just downloaded a bunch of the beaten up men (that were not tranny) and never touched that acc after…. Maybe I’ll just post a few in cuties with ouchies because it truly is not worth it,, I know I shouldn’t be bc. Trannies but im still surprised at how intensely coomer it is
I wish the pathologic fandom was more normal. I blame hbomberguy
No. 1392308
>>1391624Thanks for clarifying!
The retro shots look much more distinct. Even if the women on the bottom can look samey to someone who isn't used to seeing anime, I can tell they're by different artists.
The top one is so homogenized, I can only tell they're by different artists by the weird amount of pointless deco is used on the sameface blobs.
>>1391688jfc the only improvement is giving the generic hentai protag eyes. God this is so sad.
No. 1392773
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Anyone here uses Krita? Can you recommend me some brushes pls?
No. 1393067
>>1392773I use krita, and tbh I’m basic and go with only 3 brushes in the standard set (the airbrush, soft brush, and charcoal). Tho most the time I just use the soft brush and lower/up the opacity when colouring or rendering
I’m surprised that krita isn’t used by more artists. It’s such an easy program to use with good textured brushes, and you can animate in the program itself
No. 1393118
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>>1393106i honestly find older anime cuter and more moe. Photogenic, one of my fav looking PC98 galges, has the cutest style i have ever seen in anime, it almost look shojo-like
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>>1393118i mean like at the detail of the eyes, the cute lipstick, its so adorable in comparison to generic moeblobs with no detail
No. 1393144
>>1393118>it almost look shojo-likeit's because early moe characters and the bishoujo aesthetic is directly inspired from shoujo. Male artists noticed how cute and detailed women drew girls and decided to do the same when making dating Sims/harem/anything that involves a large female cast targeted men.
Anyway I'm going to echo what everyone else has said and say that this style is great and much better than modern moe characters. It's wild how modern characters can be so overdesigned yet still lack any details and look so boring
No. 1393149
>>1393118Yeah what this nonna said
>>1393144Scrotes stole the art style from shoujo and Osamu Tezuka (especially for lolicon) and sexualized it, that's how they came up with moe/bishoujo art style
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this follower/engagement ratio coupled with the quality seems sus to me, why do people feel the need to do this? like your art is obviously subpar and purchased followers won't change that. so done with ig suppressing actually talented artists but this gets on my fyp.
No. 1393197
>>1393118>>1391688Honestly, not a huge fan of how big the eyes were in this older anime style. The one thing about modern anime styles I like it that the eyes are more proportionate to the face.
If anime retained this overall style and detail (especially drawing adults like adults and not this moe-shit) and just shrunk the eyes, it'd be perfect.
No. 1393208
>>1392312I've read a lot of people who start T say they feel an increased sex drive.
>>1391992>I wish the pathologic fandom was more normal. I blame hbomberguyFucking same. I love the OG game (100%'d on steam) and I know there's no way all these people even bothered to play the either game because it's not an easy one to get into (as the creators intended). Even Pathologic 2 is difficult since they had to patch in an easier mode since people were complaining about the difficulty. These people just wanted a quick way to be able to justify drawing characters fucking each other. I don't mind shipping personally but I think there are a lot more interesting things going on in that game that people don't bother even addressing.
No. 1393432
>>1393208>and I know there's no way all these people even bothered to play the either game […]I don't know if that has been my experience because a number of people who do draw coomer shit of it
did play it, a number of them even
did finish it, and are very proud of that, but they're just too coombrained and porn-rotted to indulge in fanart without making it a porn-addict's fever dream. Even if they've played the games, their yaoi(and I mean it with no offense to normal fujos)-riddled brains are completely incapable of seeing the male characters as they are and instead box them into stereotypically "uke" and stereotypically "seme" roles and then push the degeneracy further, making the smallest/less """tough""" male character get all sorts of weird shit like
>>1391992 >>1391918 and
>>1389371 mention regardless of how he really is in canon.
TLDR from what I've seen a number of the coombrains of the fandom (including artist of the post that started this whole discussion, I'm so sorry nonna I assume you didn't expect to open that Pandora's box…) actually having played the game but The Coom(tm) corrupts them. More lethal illness than the Plague itself!
No. 1393537
>>1393432Sadly, I did know about this artist's coomer drawings and their nsfw twitter disgusted me. I really liked their style but seeing them depict Daniil with a female body and getting essentially raped was the last straw for me personally. TBH I'm a fujo myself but I can't handle the coomer artists in the fandom who as you stated and mentioned in here
>>1389371 that disregard what the characters are actually like. I've seen this happen in so many niche series I like it's inescapable
No. 1393628
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>>1391688this is so embarrassing. Modern computers can display more colours and details than the computers from the 90's. Yet the modern art looks so flat lifeless.
I don't know anything about this game so I can't sy much about it but judging by the sprites here I assume the OG game went for a very detailed and 3 dimensional style. So why did the remake go for something so flat looking? I get that the point of a remake is tovhave it's own identity but It should still somewhat align with the OGs vision. They could easily have gotten an artist whose specialized in detailed art with lots of shading and rendering. The remakes art legit reminds me of those commission sheets made by teenagers that I sometimes see on my twitter feed, not bad but not something you want to see in a published game.
Speaking of anime style evolution, is it me or did King from Art of Fighting and KoF become more feminine trough the years? Her thing is that she is gnc
No. 1393639
>>1391688Did a professional do these redraws? Like, was this a professional
in the industry cause it's giving baby's first visual novel on DA. I love the 90s anime art, nonas. Really inspiring me to watch and read the older stuff and draw something
fun! No. 1393674
>>1393628Hate to see what they've done with her.
Even some of the earlier yet more "feminine" examples still have her characters essence but these latter ones are awful.
No. 1393800
>>1393197I totally agree. The eyes got disproportionately big in the 90s. They were cuter and full of life for sure but still too big. Plus that particular pic (the Photo Genic one) borders on pedoshit (the implied youth on the face and the way the hand is drawn, unlike that of an adult woman, I can't help feeling it's a bit creepy)
>>1393639I don't know anything about the artist but the art quality definitely doesn't match the developer's (MAGES.) legacy
>>1393628Scrotes can't jack off to actual butch women, that's why every female character has to look feminine and be sexualized even if the point of her design is that she's androgynous and wearing men's clothes.
No. 1394340
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Which Ipad is the best for art?
All of the paid websites are trying to shill me the 12-inch iPad Pro.
I draw
>vtuber models
>emotes
>basic anime artworks
I can't use my desk table as much anymore, usually spending time in bed. Never had a screen tablet either (if that helps), only have a small wacom CTL and Wacom Pro L.
What are the pros and cons of each size/whatever of iPad? I want a tablet screen just for art and so I could also draw when I am away.
While we are at it, I also wonder what apps are worth using. I use CSP, so i guess i could also keep using it on my future iPad too…?
I am thinking about it delicately as I know the ridicilous price of iPad Pro 12-inch is just…too much for me, but I will save up for it if it's 'that good'.
No. 1394349
>>1394340Don't get the regular Ipad nor the mini, if you only draw the Ipaid Air does the job just fine it's between the regular and the pro for a middle price. If you intend to do video editing and more complex stuff like 3d and extensive Photoshop then the Pro might be better because it's basically a computer in a form of a tablet (according to reviews).
Wacom and other brands offer tablets that don't need a computer but honestly get an Ipad by this point lol.
No. 1394450
>>1394349Thank you
nonny, i will look into Air. I want to use Clip Studio Paint or something similar and it's not like i am an actual 'pro', art still is a freelance hobby of mine. I was wondering if i need to get more RAM if i would somehow want to stream it on twitch? Probably.
>>1394350Sounds fair! I do hope that there is a good cloud system where i can easily drop already finished works on a different device. thanks.
No. 1394576
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>>1393680Don't worry nonna, even though we sometimes feel alone in detesting the coomerfication of fandoms, it warms my heart knowing others are out there hating this stuff too. It does make me upset that we can't be public about this in said fandoms and have to bitch here but alas. Venting here and finding out a lot of others felt similar has been cathartic.
No. 1394811
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You guys aren't going to like this:
https://twitter.com/SolarisDaydream/status/1587060886937665536
>You may be wondering why Plus_NM deleted their Twitter account. Why would someone with 12.1K followers suddenly vanish? They were recently found out about grooming a minor. They were asking for nudes and enjoying the fact they were underage. Evidence in the next thread. No. 1394927
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>>1394340I have the iPad Pro 12.9 inch 5th generation. It’s nice and is never laggy but if you don’t mind a little bit of a tinier screen I’d say go for the iPad Pro 11 inch. It also has the advantage of being much lighter too if you want to draw while sitting on the couch or if you wanna draw outside etc. The iPad Pro 11 inch is just so much cheaper than the 12.9 inch. I do like the pro overall though and wouldn’t buy a regular iPad. Haven’t tried the air models yet so can’t comment on them
No. 1395733
>>1395169>The tip of the pencil feels too big/clumsy in comparison to wacom nibs.The pen is the Most Important thing when it comes to a drawing tablet; not how big it is, not the sensitivity, not the screen. The pen is what you draw with, it has to feel good in your hands, it has to mimic the feel of a real pen/pencil as much as possible.
The apple pencil is trash, it feels like drawing with a heavy crayon. I hate how skinny it is too, very uncomfortable to hold.
No. 1396362
>>1395916Date people who like and respect you for the entirety of who you are rather than just that one aspect, and who also can bring some of their own creativity to the table. Current guy didn't even know what my art looked like until we were dating for a few months.
Strongly recommend against dating other artists though.
No. 1396816
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Okay so I know we've talked about this before, but can I just rant about how much I hate art that just traces 3D models. I can tell, like, 80% of the time when art has been directly traced or 'refereneced' from 3D models, and I feel like some artists just don't know how obvious it is.
For example, I'm a weeb and I see project diva/vocaloid artists trace the models from the game all the time. It's like? Do you serious think we can't tell? It's the exact same shape with no artistic creativity whatsoever. Genshon impact artists seem to have similar problems but I don't play that game so idk, but it just seems more and more common.
I don't consider myself a great artist, but I'm forever grateful I grew up in a time where I only had access to human photos for references and not 3D models. I think part of the problem that inexperienced artists don't get is that the 3D model they're tracing from doesn't look 'correct' in the first place. Like I've never seen a 3D model that looks as flexible as humans do in real life- which makes sense- but in that case, why are new artists acting like this is the end all and be all of art resources?? No it's not, it makes your anatomy look stiff, your lines look like they have too much of the same thickness, and your style is copy and paste BORING. I'd rather look at anatomically incorrect art than this stuff. Pic somewhat rel.
No. 1396879
>>1396856I can tell from source media easier but you can tell from generic 3D models too. Usually what gives it away could be a variety of things, stuff poses like you mentioned is one of them. Another example is when an inexperienced artist has 'weak' lines but are following a set curve that I don't think they created themselves (i.e., following the curve of the model but not have the 'hand' of the artists).
Another example is not knowing where to trace, and how many lines to add. In the picture I added the artist added the little flare that comes from the ribcage under the models breasts, which is normally fine to add, but they didn't really added any other details and it sticks out to me. like, the image is just an outline and that's fine, but adding a fine detail like ribage flare seems odd here when there's not that much elsewhere. I know it seems nitpicky, and it's not the worst thing in the world but you can tell when the artist made this from the model, they didn't know what details to add.
Another thing about the model itself is the breasts are undetailed (like they are covered with a shirt) but the stomach is bare and detailed. It comes off as kind of strange in the final rendering imo. Like, the anatomy is correct but it's not translating to 2D art well. It's a skill to trace (genuinely), and with unpracticed artists it can show through.
No. 1397729
>>1397724My boyfriend [who does commissions for 3+ years] said it doesn't matter. It's a nice surprise either way, but he said upfront might make someone feel more obligated to give extra attention even if they aren't first in line with someone's commission line-up.
Personally, I would send it after. I don't do commissions, but I did do work where I've sold stuff before and getting it after just feels nicer, like.. Personally makes me feel like they cared a little more about how they feel about the final product. Same way with customer service, getting the tip after the fact feels extra good for some reason.
No. 1397792
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While we are talking about brushes, what are your favourite ones for CSP?
No. 1397891
>>1397792I have a fuck ton of brushes because of my digital hoarding habits, yet I mostly use the hard round lol
The most popular ones on CSP assets are almost always really good, I specially like that oil paint one
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>>1397846First one to come to mind is Francisco Goya. I remember reading his works inspired Bacon if that helps. Take a look at his Black Paintings series as they were created to express his fear and panic. I believe they were never meant to be seen outside of his home. Good luck on your project nonna
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>>1398542>pain facial expressionsyuck. sometimes I remember that some men get their sexual pleasure from women's discomfort
No. 1398561
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Why is their an abundance of porn on ig? I thought you weren't allowed to post that.
>>1398546Who's that?
No. 1398573
>>1398542Male porn is honestly just… grotesque. That's the only way I can put it. Everything is so over the top that it loses any kind of sensuality to me and I'm constantly baffled by how low their standards are for what artists they'll coom to.
By grotesque I'm also mostly talking about how over detailed and exaggerated everything is. A lot of them will over render or draw too much detail on things like muscles and things like genitals and breasts will always be huge and in your face with jizz and sweat and drool everywhere too. Plus a lot of them you can tell haven't learned anatomy at all and simply copy whatever's trendy in coomer circles right now so you'll often get weird uncanny anatomy and expressions (the style I hate most is when it's really toony but then whatever the artist has a boner for will be over rendered).
On top of everything you already mentioned I hate all the memes and fetishes and nasty porn scenarios. I really hate moid sexuality.
No. 1398692
>>1398542Did you make this post after seeing mine? If so you forgot that women draw female characters more like normal people with normal body parts, instead of like sex objects made of a pair of overly detailed and exaggerated boobs, an ass and a vagina and with child-like features>>Ahegao and pain facial expressionsSadly there are some female artists who make popular yandere TL manga that draw the girl's expressions like that. I wonder if they're just imitating moid art thinking that's gonna make their art hotter or if they've started to find it hot due to seeing it everywhere
>>1398654NTA but it's internalized male gaze. I'v had it happen to me, too, when I was addicted to hentai. If a woman spends all her time looking at that crap made for males, she's obviously going to end up tricking her brain into having the same fetishes as moids (i.e. gets off to women being degraded).
No. 1399055
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>>1398542That is just not true, I follow a pretty lolita model and I saw her second account on her bio and turns out she draws hentai on the side and her style is fully like a scrote's kek. Including crying ahegao, gigantic titties and getting destroyed by ugly mfs. You'd be surprised
No. 1399083
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Does anyone know what kind of coloring style this is? I felt like it can be a mix between painting and cell shading.
No. 1399103
>>1399083I second anon's
>>1399089 take. Looks like Copic markers. Look up Copic marker artwork by Takeshi Obata or Akihiko Yoshida.
No. 1399184
>>1399055A lot of women who draw porn for males have had to learn to draw that way when they initially had a different, more female-gazey art-style by default. They have to learn how to perfectly emulate male art style. Even some of these female hentai artists (not this one specifically, of course) still have a subtly different art style as described here
>>1398542 and you can usually tell by the way the male characters are drawn.
No. 1399626
>>13992772 things:
>Get off tiktok>Take your anger elsewhere pissychanLets hope you never get the help you need when you ask for it anymore.
No. 1400078
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Did Anatola Howard troon out? I’ve seen women grow facial hair due to PCOS but not to this extent.
No. 1400083
>>1400078she wears shadow the hedgehog bean
ofc she trooned out
No. 1400279
>>1400078Either trooned or definitely has a hormone issue. I’ve seen PCOS women
like myself kek have some amazing facial hair growth. For her line of “work” or hobby it’s pretty obvious what the actual answer is anyways, they all troon out
No. 1400314
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Becoming a pet peeve of mine when I find a cool artist and turns out she's a tif, happened three times now. All three times their main stuff wasn't typical ugly tit chop art so I didn't know at first, and finding out hasn't stopped me from liking their main stuff ofc, but yeah just annoying when stuff like picrel pops up
No. 1400394
>>1397824imo story is always most important. For example, Mob Psycho 100 has an extremely impactful story despite the art looking like it was drawn by ONE's non-dominant hand, and because the story is good the simplicity of the art kind of adds to the charm. There are also a million manga out there with beautiful art that have lame as shit stories and get cancelled after one volume.
Outside of story though, I think bad panel composition definitely can take away from a story. If every panel is just a bust shot of someone talking with no emotion from the same angles, then it becomes boring to look at. I also personally hate it when there is an establishing shot of a room or environment and it's the most boring ass basic traced 3D model room ever, no details or non-generic furniture. It makes the world feel desolate as fuck. I notice this a lot in quickly made webtoons where the artist just grabbed some premade shit. Also, if a character is showing strong emotion, don't be afraid to make them look a little ugly to really sell the feeling. Some artists can only draw very cute or pretty faces and it looks weird when they can't draw real emotion during intense story moments; the characters end up looking creepily perfect.
Also as the most basic rule of making comics readable, don't put your speech bubbles out of order. Make sure everything is properly placed left-to-right (or right-to-left if you're japanese lmao). It sounds simple but I've read a lot of amateur comics where people don't consider the speech bubbles enough and it becomes hard to read. Preplan and make sure you're considering speech bubbles as part of the composition from your earliest drafts.
No. 1400449
>>1400303tbf i consider 90% of the type of art posted in this thread to be more of a craft than an art
>then make constant tiktoks about how hard it is to live as a full time artist and get orders and suchit's always the biggest amateurs who have the most shit to talk about art and being an artist and they always manage to infantilize themselves in the process. it's so embarrassing.
Have you looked at the prices of crochet plushies that are impressive to you? That's all I would focus on.
No. 1400551
>>1397869Look up webtoon tutorials especially anything made on csp.
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/157055https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/156164Is a good start, csp have a lot of guides. If you really wanted shortcuts look up csp webtoon videos on youtube and tiktok
No. 1401020
>>1397824Speech bubble placement, typesetting, etc. are extremely important to be able to comprehend the dialogue and flow. If it's done badly it gets frustrating very easily
Also kind of unrelated I think bad/shitty/lazy art can be charming and if the story/humor is good then it doesnt'a matter that the art is technically bad. But some webcomics like CAD and those troon webcomics, I don't think even a good story or jokes would save the extremely generic, soulless art.
No. 1401213
>>1400314Why do tifs have the urge to put tit scars and limp sausage dicks in everything they do? Who cares if they mutilate themselves? Like
>>1401195 said they often go from interesting and diverse art to gory shit with zippertits and weirdly sexual vibes.
Reminds me of an artist I followed called TurnipStewdios (draws mlp and warriors stuff) who turned out to be a tif and felt the need to announce to everyone that she was about to chop her tits off. She sounded so excited about it too, but why the need to tell everyone on the account you take commissions on?
No. 1401291
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Can I genuinely ask why so many people threw a fit over this. Was it coomers and no effort memey comic makers getting pissy that this a genuine sentiment shared by a lot of users? I've seen so many similar comics like this over the years and never saw people mocking those others as much as this one.
No. 1401297
>>1401291No one cares about your OC, especially if your art is as subpar as the poster. If you want people to pay attention to your work, you need to appeal to them somehow. Art is a job, and figuring how to get hypeis a part of it in this age.
If you quit whenever your feefees are hurt you'll never get anywhere. Simple as that. Typical testerical mindset.
No. 1401333
>>1401291Honestly I usually don't follow OC posters and will most likely unfollow of someone whose art I like starts posting OCs because I have no connection to them and in 99% of the cases OCs are either just lazy clones of characters they like or black queer lesbians.
If someone wants others to care about their OCs they should make STORIES about them so that I can read it and engage and like them as I do with existing characters I like.
Nobody will ever care about a DeviantArt OC with boring text that lists their hobbies and their favorite flavor of coffee, everybody can do this and most likely they would be able to do it better, if they want me to care make a comic maybe I will read it then.
No. 1401375
>>1401333>99% of the cases OCs are either just lazy clones of characters they like or black queer lesbiansKek, as a OC artist who mainly draws black girl OCs I feel so attacked. But I like drawing them a lot and recently I've been getting more attention on the clock app, so it's fun. They're all meant to be characters for a show/comic I will eventually make though.
>>1401291Idgi these comics. Drawing OCS is supposed to be for fun. If you want attention be a fan artist. I'll occasionally draw fan art and I get 30 likes compared to 3 on my OCs. It is what it is.
No. 1401394
>>1401375>Kek, as a OC artist who mainly draws black girl OCs I feel so attacked.Don't take it personally, anon. If I can ever get my ass up to draw the comics I have planned ages ago I would have a bunch of nationalities in there as well (mainly because this is normal in my city) and there are black artists who naturally draw more black than white characters.
I rather meant it in the sense of people (usually white westerners) who only create OCs for the sole purpose of virtue signalling. They are usually not just people of color but also queer, over-weight, autistic and other things and they often show lgbt+ flags.
I would pay for comic that takes place in actual other culture, like Ethiopia or something and was influenced by local myths or fashion styles or even if it's just immigrants that are well written into some sort of mystery or action story that aren't just "americans but black".
No. 1401429
>>1401291If a SOCIETY post says that you are the bad girl for only liking superficial things then it's not a very good one.
The only acceptable targets for this ire are le Algorithm or populars who share none of their wealth.
No. 1401443
>>1401291I don't like seeing OC art unless they're established characters in a comic or have a world they inhabit in multiple illustrations.
Characters aren't characters unless they have a story to go with them, it's just a random drawing of a human otherwise, imo.
No. 1401469
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>>1401291lmao I saw an artist doing the same but it was a nobody so I didn't thought to share it here, but here's the sob story
>I spend hours on a drawing and want to show it off? It'll get replaced by something everyone will like>art trade, ship, commissions, this will always be for the others>Is this my fault? Did I do something bad? I'll start to believe that yes No. 1401549
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>Look at Twitter lists that are made in response to Twitter Blue being a pay to win feature that shafts artists
>It has 40 people who are above 30K followers
WOW! Way to miss the point of making a list. Those rich people sure do help to counteract Twitter's new priority system.
No. 1401676
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Anons, is anyone else depressed about the state of the art online? Semi-vent, but seeing everyone make a big fuss about leaving Twitter and trying to go to a whole different website like Tumblr (and god forbid DeviantArt), makes me wonder how the hell I'm going to keep an audience. I barely have above a thousand followers on twitter and people expect those people to migrate so fast to a different website. It's so hard to keep an audience attached to your work.
Honestly, I feel like it's much easier on your heart to have a mindset of "I'm doing this for me" when it comes to your art. Online spaces have ruined sharing art because there's no good place to post. ArtStation is promising but you can't network as well as you could on a place like Twitter.
TLDR: Are you guys leaving Twitter or do you also believe this is just some fad that will die out?
No. 1401713
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>>1401676It's all just slactivism. No need to move.
I think this poster put it best. Dedicated art site = smaller audience but larger available audience = general site for everyone.
No. 1401788
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Posting this here because I don't want to derail on /m/, there is difference in between being inspired, master study and tracing.
No. 1401811
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>>1401788Tracing, while doesn't look like at first glance for people that don't appreciate art, what there being a different background, hair, skin colour, scars, rope that insinuates that he tied up and a long sword awkwardly placed in between the hand and just looks out of place. While I don't admittedly know how to make a gif that shows the figure falls near perfectly in place with the Fallen Angel artwork however when you look at it you can clearly see it. just make him paler and add inn some scars, a wig, a sword, a rope and to throw of people from accusing you of tracing add in a long piece of fabric to let people know that it is a nod to that painting. I seen better Simpson art that are inspired by various paintings.
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>>1401811Anon it's an online art meme/challenge to recreate a cartoon sexyman from the Fallen Angel. In your case it's Alucard from Castlevania and this one is Link from BotW.
No. 1401823
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>>1401676Artfol was literally made to be artists' haven away from Twitter back in 2019 and flopped.
This is a circular topic, artists will do nothing to sway e-celebs into migrating with them and will get nothing for their new home.
No. 1401882
>>1401549This is so out of touch. 30K followers is nothing. Even 50K is mid-tier at best.
About 1:100 followers are willing to pay for art in any capacity, and about 1:1000 are willing to pay more than a couple hundred USD. Unless you have a knack for monetizing your work, the average artist with 30K is lucky to make more than the poverty line.
No. 1402092
I really wish there was a better way to prevent minors from following your social media. I don't post nsfw (somehow I think that would attract more minors, ew) but it's weird to see kids be so visible.
>>1402027That and artists want internet attention from braindead normies not other snooty artists.
No. 1402356
>>1401823Honestly, in Artfol's case I feel that them flopping might have been the devs' fault for making the really retarded decision to start it as an app. Most artists draw on a computer so
obviously if you're making a social media for artists, making it app only is a really stupid inconvenience. Not only that but the app is slow as shit.
They did have a bit of momentum at the beginning. I feel if it weren't those two things they could had actually gotten a proper
still small userbase.
No. 1402549
>>1402117nta but most kids on the internet these days are dumb. Maybe their parents are just dumb because they allow their 7 year olds to make tiktoks. At least if you were a child on the internet twenty years ago you were probably precocious. I don't think there's a way to kick kids off the internet anymore but it would be nice if kids learned internet manners or something.
If these social media apps can figure out if you're under 13 or under 18 for the purpose of data collection and ad placement there should be a way to mark your account so it's not shown to those groups… but whatever, civilizational decline it is.
No. 1402700
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What
No. 1402717
>>1402712I think it's a actually romantic hetero couple, but the characters have queer energy or however they call it as
>>1402711 said
No. 1402804
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Does anyone here use ClipStudioPaint? If so, do you all know a decent pen pressure setting that would require me to press down to have a higher output? I feel my tablet is too sensitive and I naturally bear down when drawing so I always end up having thick strokes when I don't want that. I want it so that I have to really press down before getting a thick line so I can always have thin lines before thick ones. Does anyone else have the same problem?
No. 1402848
>>1402700Either not really couples or just spicy straights.
Ot but why is Juri/Majima popular?
No. 1402949
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>>1402804Is that a screenshot from your situation? If you want thin lines the graph shouldn't start above zero, but keeping the rest of it could work. You can also change pressure size settings for individual brushes, make sure the minimum size is very small or zero and adjust the graph there to your liking.
No. 1403166
>>1401676I don't think social media is for me. I don't want to spent half my time on there. The most I'd use it for is dropping my new work, on Twitter, Instagram, and maybe even Facebook. That's pretty easy, right?
For art discussion, advice and connecting with other artists, I'd rather join art forums such as OpenGameArt and Crimson Daggers.
Also does anyone know if and how much streaming helps? Has anyone here used Picarto?
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>>1402617Reminds me that I’ve recently found out the one of the most gross coomer artists, who inflicted the ahegao hoodie on the world, @Victim_Girls is apparently a women. Jesus fuck, some of their drawings are so gross they literally make me want to vomit, I’d don’t understand how anyone finds her shit sexy, it’s so grotesque. I don’t know what’s worse, the sausage link tits, or the cum that has the appearance of snot.
No. 1403481
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The irony
No. 1403516
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This guy works in the porn industry btw
No. 1403565
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>>1403516imagine dickriding this hard kek
No. 1403721
>>1398542Women
>femdom but the good kindMen
>"femdom" but it's just a bangmaid fantasyI used to like igumox and clocked her as female early on. Unfortunately her works are 2scrotey5me now that I'm off hentai.
I used to be a libfem and one of the things that peaked me was realizing how degraded women are even in the most "vanilla" hentai. The silly cringey things men write women to say like "my hole so lonely" turned out to be a bigger fetish on shaming horny women.
No. 1403727
>>1398542Men are almost always drawing idiotic proportions. Just because they like tits means the female characters have to have tits as big as their entire fucking body, women rarely do this and certainly not to that extend.
I also fucking hate ahegao and it's never sexy. In general women seem to have a harder time getting off on porn so just doing something porny isn't enough, they rather tend to put in some chemistry or power dynamics, whereas men don't care, just put in giant tits and ahegao and some faceless guy with mega dick and fucking them silly and billion fluids and impossible poses that show tits and ass at the same time and they are happy. Women seem to focus on context and coherency.
No. 1403779
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>>1403565The dickriding is even worse on her own account.
No. 1403794
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>>1403779In case anyone needed any further confirmation that this guy sucks, picrel.
No. 1403877
>>1402700lol saw this tweet and it annoyed me too, you can just like an m/f ship without the need to "qweer" it I s2g it's so obnoxious. I really like her work otherwise but what an annoying tweet.
I guess cause she's a lesbian she needs to make sure everything she does fits into that it's so dumb.
No. 1404129
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>>1403516>there is no mirror for her selfieHas he never taken a phone selfie before, or was he that checked out while writing the pretentious caption
>the marks of plastic surgery are depicted with grace and dignityWhere, when the bolt ons you gave her are so ugly. Tried to depict that plastic surgery is akshully a deep and brave search for love, ended up depicting how sad it is when people botch themselves in the pursuit of other people's coom
Also, the statue just reminds me of edits like picrel
No. 1404916
>>1403720some advice to get rid of harmful perfectionism:
>leave the piece for a few days so you can look at it with fresh eyesYou'll often forget what you thought your "mistakes" were and see that it actually looks good.
>force yourself to post your "bad"/"unfinished" drawingsIt helps with getting over the performance fear
>(if that's too hard at first post WIPs of the drawing along with the finished piece)People love seeing WIPs!
>remember that you can always make the next drawing better so this one doesn't have to be perfectYou don't have to be the perfect artist NOW, improving is something you strive to do and drawing is fun so why would you insist on perfection right away when you can just enjoy the journey
>do timed challenges (10min/20min) and post the resultsMake sure to write that it was a challenge too. It both makes people wanna do it too and helps with that performance fear
>look at "bad" drawings that you like and analyze why you still like themFor example I realized I quite like messy drawings with broad strokes that still make up a coherent picture. It helped me see that not everything has to be super detailed all the time and it still looks amazing
Just some things that helped me. And like you said, imagine if instead of doubling the time of a piece just for small details you could have spent that last half of time making another full piece, and you would have had twice the drawing experience to improve your skills!
No. 1405019
>>1404976This. I’ll die on that hill to say that I HATE the idea of tracing 3d models if 1.) you don’t know how to draw the basics of what you’re trying to draw, 2.) you don’t try to learn from it and you’re using it as a crutch.
These people who are in the industry that these guys compare theirselves to generally can draw whatever their tracing, but because of how cutthroat the industry is, they need shortcuts to get the the finished product for their client
No. 1405814
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>>1361298they deleted the tweet as a result of the backlash but you have to go to your deviations & manually opt out of this ai dataset thing. if you cant be bothered to do that bcs you have a shit ton of deviations, you have to fill in a form.
No. 1405895
>>1405853do you have a big following? Make a statement that the creators of the AI didn't ask for permission before using your art. I have seen other artist do this when their art gets used without their permission and most people show sympathy towards the artist.
If you don't have a big following make a statement anyway and ask some big names in the fandom, who has talked against art theft before, to boost your statement
No. 1407979
>>1407941Depends on what your goal is. For promoting your stuff or building a fanbase definetly not, there are too few users and you're better off on the big social medias. But I quite like the small instances (like snug.moe) as a chill place to talk with others, I haven't formed any friendship here and the users/your experience all depends on the instances you've joined, it's way more relaxed than twitter.
Try to jump from instance to instance to find one whose rules fit the most with you.
No. 1408158
>>1408068Tumblr is pretty dead in my experience. I am only browsing twitter because 90% of the artists I like are there but not on tumblr and only go to tumblr to dump my art there.
What I miss on twitter are the tags though. It's fun reading about people's thoughts on your art even if it's someone raging about the pairing I drew.
No. 1408313
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Twitch partnered "artist" Twoootles traced and posted a remake of Koyorin, now apologizes saying it was a mistake not to credit the original artist. She offers to take down the speedpaint video if tracing in considered offensive.
No. 1408314
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She claims to not have stolen the art, just traced it and effectively did not credit the artist. That's what she clarifies as being the mistake.
No. 1408587
>>1408349Eh, I think it has potential. The creator is a troon but they don't put gender shit all over everything and they seem pretty centrist, judging by their content guidelines.
I'm hopeful for it. Yeah the terminally online kids and furfags are there (they'd be in any art and social media space anyway) but it already has a better atmosphere than shit like buzzly or dA. We can't really tell how it'll turn out until more serious artists migrate there.
No. 1408597
>>1408478You can use the free version of wix, there'll just be a small thing advertising wix somewhere on your site. Or would that be a problem,
like will people think that unprofessional? As a hobbyist I wouldn't know.
No. 1408617
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Came across a twitter artist thousands on generic animu style art and couldn't see why, until I went to her account, picrel. But even then, I don't know how a basic leather outfit can get her 100k, even 600k for a spy x family yor cosplay. I'm unashamedly jealous ffs. But, sex sells is an adage for a reason and I probably would if I could. I want to make art a full time thing but it feels like online that won't happen unless I make popular media anime art and/or become attractive. And offline, I don't know if my work will be accepted into any snobby gallery. I still want to try of course, but as of right now it seems making art I like and making art a full time thing are mutually exclusive. Do any other nonas feel like this, and if so do you have advice? Saged for vent. Yes I reposted this because I was embarrassed.
No. 1408670
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Saw this RTed from Pucca's account. Hoping this is the first and the last AI people take up space in an AA.
No. 1408682
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>>1408670https://twitter.com/PuccaNoodles/status/1591896706509336576 Forgot the link for context. I looked up "The Majou Witch" project's website. Site is hard to read, but yes
>>1408673, they sell T-Shirts and prints.
>>1408674If they'd built their own model using their own art and royalty-free/public domain images, this would be a fun way to do a gacha game. But their long-winded "artist" statement implies nothing of the sort.
No. 1408864
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>>1408670>>1408682B-but it's ableist to speak against AI…
No. 1408924
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Can these people not be butthurt about cogum3li's art for one minute?!
No. 1408934
>>1408924I expected to see something heinous when I checked out her art but it's just regular angura type shit, what the fuck. There's shady white scrotes making fetish-fueled eroguro for decades, meanwhile they're getting mad over this run off the mill female Shintaro Kago stan
Makes me wonder what Saccstry's up to these days.
No. 1408960
>>1408924Wow her work is amazing
These people have got to be jealous
No. 1409004
>>1408962No, you're simply stating that you're female. Which would be a relief to come across among all the pronoun shite.
>>1408958>I'd rather follow and support mentally sane people who are not deep in a cultYeah, same here.
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>>1408879Straight from their website… like what the actual fuck.
They make it sound like a huge team is running this, but how many idiots do they need to enter words into a computer?
No. 1409092
>>1408864didn't know random word/picture generators turned you into an artist kek
I wouldn't care about AI if the people who used it had any respect for artists, their work, or their skills. But none of them do.
No. 1409214
>>1409187As it stands, your own site free or cheap as a gallery/main hub. Social media at this point, it's all kind of a shit show at the moment but Twitter or tumblr can work. Let it be secondary and don't let it consume you if you're just starting out… Avoid Instagram like the blight it is.
But any of those can fuck you over at any moment so primarily just have your own space you can control if you're in it for the long haul… let people know that your website exists via social media, and once you gain people who genuinely like you and your work, you can certainly shoot for setting up a mailing list so they can follow you despite the whims of social media. Good luck!
No. 1409248
>>1409214thank you
nonnie!! very interesting, things have changed so much it feels. i forgot about tumblr. what's bad about instagram besides the img quality issue?
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Pixiv put up regulations on paid transactions. Some of these are reasonable but I’m not sure about the “Illegal mutilation” part. Does this mean general horror artworks are banned or just eroguro stuff?
No. 1410705
>>1404732Maybe its because I like art history but it helps me put into place what kind of art movements they could have been apart of or what kind of historical background they could have had, whether centuries old to contemporary.
>preexisting ideas about the quality and meaning of the piece instead of experiencing it rawThis makes a lot of sense though, I'm just used to finding relief when seeing dates while studying because it puts things in perspective.
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Anyone know who they might be talking about? Their art looks like generic aesthetic anime art to me so it's hard to tell
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who are some artists who draw really good faces?
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>>1412015also does anyone know the artist?
No. 1412135
>>1412101Artistic nudity is supposed to be ok (if their bots temporally block the post, you can easily click the button on top of it to make actual humans review it), but sex acts are not. Lewd/provocative art is most likely allowed just fine, I haven't seen people having these taken down.
Art get less traction here because the relatively small userbase, but since people seem to be moving to it I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes way more active now.
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>>1400314>Becoming a pet peeve of mine when I find a cool artist and turns out she's a tif, happened three times nowMake that four times. Saw a repost of some surreal horror-type art which thr artist claims to have made in a psych ward, thought it was cool and looked up the artist. Trans flag and he/him in bio, has a they/he/she partner and claims fallout made her kweer. I guess the psych ward thing should've tipped me off smh.
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There should be a separate thread for western comics cows tbh. Frank Cho deserves the rope.
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>SFW version
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>>1412731https://twitter.com/donie/status/1592859900941852674https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1593391604785504257Apparently, the Okumura jokes write themselves and the workers are comically mismanaged.
I don't get the apocalypse talk either, freezing a site in place isn't the same as, spilling coffee on the servers and
poof your numbers are gone.
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I haven't been checking out lavendertowne in a while but seeing this was kinda depressing. how does one reach this point in their art career? Drawing the same stuff and never improving.
No. 1413584
>>1412780I have a theory that kids gravitate and admire artists who draw at a decent level rather than a professional level.
Someone like Lavendertowne has a style that looks achievable to a beginner starting out. She doesn't draw so well that she's seen as a college professor or an unreachable pro, thus she's relatable as a fellow peer, just a little better than they are.
Tbh it's a great place to be to make a living as an artist. Grabbing the attention of teenagers is a lot easier than grabbing the attention of fellow professionals and art directors.
No. 1413699
>>1384854Twitter and tumblr are both fine I am posting art for years there and never made a bad experience. Whenever I see DRAMA unfolding it's always happening among ID pol/trans/genderqueer artists and their genderqueer xir designs and characters.
Nobody ever said anything to bad me and I know it's not the follower count because most people that got bitch fights I know have maybe 300-800 followers, so not that many. Also depends on the series someone is drawing. Nothing against cartoons, but I noticed that cartoons with kid characters attract insane teenagers like flies, not that surprising actually. I think you should be save if you draw for comics/anime/games aimed at older teens/adults and don't pander the infamous parts of the tumblr fanbase.
>Every online community I've been a part of was eventually taken over by zoomers and their ugly OC artTHIS is sadly true. I go from discord to discord to find people that draw well and draw the actual characters instead of some shitty OCs but it's getting harder to find them every day.
I still love drawing fanart and will continue to draw the shitty comic- and manga men I love even if I am the last person standing, but I wish SO much I had more other artists to talk to. Strangely (or not) I never found any of the fanartists I love and follow in any discords or anything. Maybe they don't desire attention and just want to post pics, can honestly relate but I have no partner or friends to talk to in real life so I kinda crave some convos with like-minded people too.
>they felt like there was no space for them to just enjoy making art and stories anymore.This is sad. But IMO it tells me the art community needs people like you even more. I don't want all good art in the west to disappear to see every fandom being flooded by ugly rainbow OC self-insert blobs.
>No one's interested in anyone else's artAgree. I am happy that the majority of my retweets come from Asia but at the same time it's a bit sad, because I guess you are right and westerners don't care. I don't get what caused this. Tumblr gender brainrot combined with the desire to get attention instead of being a good artist? Not sure.
No. 1413820
>>1413699Not that Asian spaces are free from drama, but a lot of western art spaces prioritize attention over community. It used to be that I could use my art to find likeminded fans to talk to; but now, it's mostly people piggybacking off of a fandom for points. If they're "sincere" fans, it's because they're kinnies or hardcore selfshippers.
(I know many people have issues with shipping for some justified, boundary-ignoring reasons; but I've noticed that the self-shippers are the ones who have no interesting in any aspect of the work that don't involve their yume fantasies.)
No. 1414033
>>1413820>but a lot of western art spaces prioritize attention over communityI feel like this is true, there's always this weird competitiveness going on, even if no one says it out loud. No one wants to draw together as friends anymore, everyone is just competing for likes on social media, or making a sale on their shop. The joy some artists get is from the attention their drawings receive, not actually feeling proud of the drawing itself.
I also feel like it wasn't always like this. I miss the community of oekaki boards, and drawing with friends on MSN messenger. It feels like no one just draws for fun anymore, everything has to be drawn to feed the algorithm on some website.
No. 1414267
>>1413820>western art spaces prioritize attention over community>If they're "sincere" fans, it's because they're kinnies or hardcore selfshippers.God, fucking this. I just want to draw pretty art and talk to other people doing pretty art and talk about the characters and series we draw for but that's somehow not possible anymore.
I am jelly because I see so many Chinese, Japanese and Russians making top tier cinematic fanart and it's always canon characters with their canon look doing canon or semi-canon things while the western people I can talk to in English draw ugly fat transwashed blobs and refuse to get anywhere near the original style because they have to keep their """own style""".
No fucking idea what that own style is supposed to be because everything they draw is the same shit that looks like characters from a cartoon for toddlers.
It's never about praising an existing work, it's all about getting attention. They don't want to draw fanart, they want to draw their own shit and promote it as fanart to get more clicks because even a badly drawn overweight, frog-eyed xir Sephiroth will still get you more clicks than an badly drawn overweight, frog-eyed xir OC.
And don't even get me started on the kinnies. Relating is fine, but there is a line at which relating or self-inserting ends and mental illness starts.
>>1414033Yeah it's all about art careers.
I always say this but this is the real reason for why we have so many call outs and drama. It's artists trying to get rivals cancelled, that's it- everything else are just lies to achieve this goal.
I rarely see Russians or Japanese doing this which probably the main reason for why their fandoms on twitter and such are so much better.
>>1414036Social media forces people to take pixel numbers seriously, I have to be aware of this too. Try imagine the likes as people standing in a room looking at your art maybe. If you only get 100 likes because you draw a niche ship only you like that means that you STILL got 100 real physical people standing there looking at your pic for a ship they probably never even cared about until now.
Even 30 people is a lot. Imagine 30 people standing around you to look at your pic.
And remember that a huge part of humanity still prefers genuine art over self-advertising. If I love Madoka than I want fucking Madoka fanart that looks like Madoka, not some girl that looks like steven universe with pink hair.
No. 1414286
>>1414279Imo it has nothing to do with the widespread of English and more to do with the insane politicisation of art EN/US spaces online or in general. Mix that with the current hyper political vigilance that exists nowadays on social media and you have the current sad result of EN/US art spaces. Years ago people would get legitimately angry at each other for not posting a black square on social media whenever blm protests happen.
I notice that same thing with my own country if i go to the English side it’s political (not necessarily gendie bs) if I go to the non-English side it’s way more chill.
No. 1414321
>>1414279Yeah I understand a bit of Japanese and rarely see those that I follow make any fandom related tweets or never.
They just post art, retweet art, talk about chapters and episodes or ideas and headcanons they have, advertise their doujinshi or post photos of their food or their cats.
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>>1414309honestly i loved when DC used to work with Ricken to make cute bishie figures. A shame she doesnt seem to work with them anymore, they should hire more westaboos
No. 1414327
>>1414286>if i go to the English side it’s political (not necessarily gendie bs) if I go to the non-English side it’s way more chillSame! Sadly my fellow citizen are boring and there are no fans of anything here or too few, so no community. But the main talking points are tv series, sport, food and harmless shit that currently happens. The only political posts I see are people making fun of our resident angry nazi hools which is something I can live with.
Then I switch to English and everything is a giant flame war, propaganda, conspiracy and racist bullshit and news spamming by doomers.
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>>1414364I mostly draw pin-ups, both male and female. I draw femdom as well as a good amount of 'traditional' sexual interactions (female pleasuring male), which I generally believe is where the main turn off for women lies. I totally understand that, but I draw it because I personally like it. I also draw idealized bodies for both sexes. Pic rel is not my work but is along the lines of what I post.
No. 1414486
>>1414267>I always say this but this is the real reason for why we have so many call outs and drama. It's artists trying to get rivals cancelled, that's it- everything else are just lies to achieve this goal.I agree. Even when there's no money or art career on the line, you always see no talent losers try to cancel the popular or skilled artist in any fandom.
This hostility also comes from the opposite side too, lots of skilled artists don't want to interact at all with beginners, and treat their peers with competitiveness too.
It must be a western mindset, there is only one winner. There is no art "community" because the majority of artists are insecure immature babies who aren't capable of being happy for anyone but themselves