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No. 1470488

As the title says.
Post experiences, why you can't stand them and such.
This is NOT about your own disorder, so don't blogpost/vent, there's already a thread for that.
This thread is about mental illness you can't stand in others.
Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you.

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No. 1470499

I don't know what mental illness this is but I hate severe know it alls because they can't be reasoned with and are so pompous. I know a guy that was literally discharged from the army for "delusions of grandeur" aka he was literally too insufferable for the military. Anything you bring up and he's an "expert" on it and will talk endlessly ignoring all social indicators. Sucks all the happiness out of the room and just makes everybody miserable

No. 1470593

I've abused so long that I cannot even cry when I'm alone I prevent myself from doing it .its frustrating knowing I should cry and let it out but some other part of me thinks it as giving in and crying. Its ..tiring

No. 1470641

>>1470499
Dunning-Krueger effect.
Not a mental illness per se, but yeah pretty annoying

No. 1471642

People with bpd traits, people with autism, insecure people, overthinkers, people with an anxiety disorder. Very, very exhausting.

No. 1471643

bpd. awful awful people, worse when theyre 22+. cant take accountability, always "i feel this way so i need to make it everyone elses problem because im a special victim"

No. 1471764

I don't often see this one mentioned but people with histrionic personality disorder.

Have a friend who recently broke up with their gf and someone in our friend circle messaged me about it to only make it about themselves to say "Can you believe she thought I was mean and toxic??" I should note this person used to talk to me daily only to cast me aside when they found a new group to hang with and only messages in instances like that or wants attention when no one else is giving it to them.

Histrionics need to make every fucking situation about themselves and then throw a fit the second they're not paid attention to. They then emotionally manipulate and act out to get what they want. Sorry for slight blogpost but I don't know anyone personally who have dealt with shit like this.

No. 1472505

>>1471643
at that age bpdchans are either long gone and have only 5% chance of ever changing, or are fully recovered. no inbetween
>>1470499
most people I've met like this have been religious nutcases kek

No. 1472836

Low self esteem. egotistical asf and petty, never happy until you hate yourself as much as they do.

No. 1472903

Pro-mia/ana people, since half of the disorder is psychological. Seeing their "thinspo" "weightspo" "bonespo" or whatever fucking weird terms they use scares me. The people in those pictures are like half dead zombies and somehow it's attractive to them.
>>1472836
The issue is that they think their low self esteem = low ego too.

No. 1472906

>>1471764
In practice, i can’t really tell apart a histrionic from a narcissist.

No. 1472922

>>1470488

Autistic men. They are so fucking entitled, dirty, annoying, never apologize when do they wrong and when we get to the extreme they shoot up schools, rape, murder or think they are entitled but never go through with it. 99% of the time if you find someone with autism unbearable it's a male.

No. 1473022

>>1472505
It’s actually around age 30 that bpdchans start to either mellow out or take a nosedive. Early 20s is prime bpd behavior.

Personally, I can tolerate any type of mentally ill people that actually want to get better and can admit they have a problem. Bippies, autists, bipolars, anyone can become well-adjusted if they put the work in and have support. But the type of people that think they’re JUST FINE and everyone ELSE is the problem are the worst fucking people on the planet. Also people that “don’t believe in” psychiatry or therapy. They’re always the most horrible nut jobs you’ve ever met.

No. 1473039

>>1473022
>she bought the psychiatry meme
ngmi

No. 1473044

>>1473022
this is the only right answer

No. 1473136

>>1473039
Your family fucking hates you.

No. 1473195

>>1470488
I'm extremely biased due to personal experiences, but people who simply won't admit their mental issues, refuse help, and make it everyone else's problem is perhaps the worst mental illness and deserve 0 pity.
I'm not talking about the ones who downright do not have access/means to get help or the cognitive capacity to do so by themselves obviously.

My maternal family is cursed with severe mental illness they deny and refuse to seek any kind of help (unsurprisingly, a lot of them are tinfoil christcucks anti-vaxers and moderately anti-medical everything). In the end, I became the scapegoat doormat, a mentally ill crippled retard myself.
This isn't to say everything is my family's fault, as I'm an adult now responsible for my own consequences, but the older I get, and the more I talk through therapy sessions, the more I realize how badly I've been damaged because of fully grown adults decisions that I always took all the blame for and hated myself for.
This type of "wah I'm mentally ill therefore I'm excused!" behaviour amplified online in the past decade or so is just as dreadful.

I'm rapidly deteriorating and might not live much longer anyway so it doesn't matter, but the fear of becoming those I despise the most and perpetuating another cycle haunts me. The pain of hurting someone because of my own monstrous nature is far worse than the pain of locking myself away and cutting all contact with human life.

No. 1473235

>>1473136
whereas yours just adores you kek

No. 1473240

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>>1473235
Nta but my family does adore me ♥

No. 1473243

>>1473240
Nta but with that attitude I doubt it

No. 1473247

>>1473240
whatever mental disorder makes anons act like this

No. 1473256

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>>1473247
>>1473243
Haters just jealous of my reborn baby monkey steez.

No. 1473412

>>1472922
They also stalk women and have creepy fetishes. They're also obsessed with this tradwife thing.

No. 1473447

>>1473195
Felt, anon. Or even worse: People who are half self aware. You can almost sympathise with people who have no self awareness but the ones who have some of it, use it as a scapegoat, and use it to be anti recovery are truly awful. They'll bitch and whine saying they have no idea how to fix themselves but if you try and give them the slightest piece of advice, you know what they do.

No. 1473457

>>1473136
so this is what all that cbt, dbt and meds do a person.

No. 1473470

>>1473412

True it's always diapers or some shit. Also the fucking worse if they decide they want to talk to you on public transport or something.

No. 1473475

People with eating disorders (especially anorexia) tend to be annoying because any interaction with them will somehow trigger and feed into their disorder it's just exhausting. I swear it can be literally anything as well, you could remind them that it's going to rain and that they should bring an umbrella and somehow that will feed into their disorder.

No. 1473560

>>1472505
>at that age bpdchans are either long gone and have only 5% chance of ever changing, or are fully recovered. no inbetween
rly? do a lot of bpd ppl kill themselves?

No. 1473566

>>1473560
no source but personal experience, but no. they just try a lot and fail. >>1473022 is correct and based with >>1473195


>>1473039
every time bpd is mentioned in one of these topical threads, the intolerable bippies come to start arguments and defend themselves while being anti psychiatry for some of the reasons previous nonnies stated.

No. 1473572

>>1473475
>implying they're not skinny enough to just slip through the raindrops
may as well just call them a fatass

No. 1473577

>>1473566
>diagnosing me with bpd because i made a shitpost about psychiatry
poetic. look, i dislike bpdfags or anyone who possesses those traits, just as much as you, written diagnoses or not. i'm just not completely comfortable with the psych industry, as it is now and as it was in the past, and anyone who's skeptical of it, shouldn't be written off as crazy.

No. 1473593

>>1473577
you're projecting and putting a lot of words into my mouth, just pointing out you ppl always do this in the mental health threads. cbt and dbt aren't some drugs that big pharma can zombify you on, try them crazy.

No. 1473599

>>1473593
NTA but most modern psych is based on Freud who’s entire career became about gaslighting his rich friend’s daughter that her daddy was a rapist, but go off girl boss.
>>in b4 we don’t even listen to him. We just use theories and techniques based on people on people who were based on him because it all just comes back to Freud.

No. 1473606

>>1473593
how exactly am i projecting? what "you people" am i? the intolerable bippies who come onto this thread whenever it is mentioned? isn't that what you said?
to be on topic, munchies are insufferable. i have to deal with one regularly and she's just about gone through any and all illnesses by now, not only that but she also diagnoses other people with shit. i lost weight because i got physically ill and i got the anorexia diag from her, some guy at work she is convinced is ocd. it's like how pixielocks has gone crazy consuming mental health content where she sees it everywhere.

No. 1473667

>>1473560
I think anon meant long gone as in "irredeemable behaviour and can't change", not as in suicide dead gone kek.

No. 1473890

>>1473039
we get it, you're abusive and want attention from the thread.

Anyway, autism.
It's always fucking autism.
Either they were neglected and don't know jack shit and they just expect people to put up to their shit or they were helicoptered to the point they have a meltdown if someone doesn't even know autism, screaming that everyone is ableist.
Plus as another anon said in the previous thread, the diagnosis is so fucking vague it doesn't make sense, because it's a too large spectrum where you have slightly awkward people to severely retarded sacks of meat.
I wish there was a pre-birth exam that could see autism so we could abort them like those with down syndrome.

No. 1473982

>>1473470
yes, public transport is a breeding ground for unhinged moids and incels

No. 1473984

>>1473447
>> They'll bitch and whine saying they have no idea how to fix themselves but if you try and give them the slightest piece of advice, you know what they do.

I feel this nonnie. This is /r9k/ in a nutshell. I was trying to understand incels but they all have this attitude.

No. 1473989

>>1473982
>>1473470
I had managed to forget the time a man with my little pony tattoos followed me off the bus. But now I remember and can third this.

No. 1474200

>>1473989
Why are autistic moids obsessed with that show?

No. 1474283

>>1473890
I feel like there is a huge difference between high-functioning and low-functioning and for those two to just be called autistic is a disservice. One of them whip their dicks out to jerk it in public, and the other like, has a meltie when their routine is changed. The latter is a fine person but the former needs assistance.

No. 1474308

>>1474283
agreed

No. 1476456

Two of the most insufferable moids I've encountered have the same pattern, I wonder if they're actually diseased with something:

-Very petulant. Everything was a disaster to them but they didn't actively do anything to be in a better situation or remove the source of discomfort, they just expected it to disappear while bitching and moaning. I'm even talking about the littlest things, such as misplaced knives on the table.
-Grandeur delusions. They're clever, intelligent, better than anyone, beautiful…but at the same time, they felt suicidal by low self esteem, this cycle would go daily.
-They wanted everyone to invite them, include them, talk to them, acknowledge them…even people who don't know them
-No interest in other people. Can't name the favourite color/food/simple things about their so-called friends but if everyone didn't know them, they would meltdown.

The last trait?
-They both trooned out.

Coincidence?

No. 1476459

>>1476456
i think emotionally unstable moids like you described tend to be pretty miserable beneath it all, and they think trooning out will fix it (it doesnt, they still have horrible personalities but now they just get support from other ugly trannies.) either that or they grow dissatisfied with the lack of attention theyre receiving and just go full AGP

No. 1476542

People who use their disorder as an excuse or reason never to take accountability, even when something has nothing to do with their mental disorder. I have a family member who has basically told us that any criticism of her is triggering to her anxiety and OCD so we can't say anything negative to her. Sure, I get it sucks to be told that you're not perfect, I have mental health issues too and can relate to finding criticism hard to deal with, but if you can't be told something in a kind and constructive way without a complete meltdown, then that's a sign you need to get your ass back into therapy.

No. 1476543

>>1474283
Having worked with both (as a wrangler) I prefer the low functioning autistics. Sure they're prone to public masturbation, petty theft, chewing random things they find on the street, but they also don't tend to be predatory pedophiles or school shooters.

No. 1478073

Paranoid personality disorder or paranoid people in general. It's honestly worse than narcissism. Being raised by one I was taught to never make friends or do nice things for others because they're always going to betray me and "secretly want me dead" so I had genuinely no close friends up to my teenage years, which made me think I was on the spectrum or something.
Constantly being accused of doing shit I didn't do or intend to say made me pretty spiteful as a child as well.

No. 1478121

>>1473606
I thought bippie was a word for bipolar not bpds

No. 1478448

>>1478121
bp = bee pee = bippie

No. 1478452

>>1476542
Someone in my friend group who's a known…problem, just got diagnosed with BPD and my eyes rolled so hard I just know he's going to use it as an excuse to be an asshole to everyone around him yet again. He also has a daughter with special needs and keeps using tiredness and ADHD for blatant stupidity because he doesn't read labels on things and gave her water instead of Pedialyte when she had diarrhea, used hand sanitizer because "it looked like baby oil" and forgot to give her medicine frequently.

No. 1478459

>>1478448
bi isn’t pronounced like bee though

No. 1478468

>>1478452
oh my god that poor little girl. this post makes my heart hurt

No. 1478499

>>1478459
I meant BP as in BPD, bipolar is usually just called bipolar and occasionally shortened to "BD" from what I've seen

No. 1479153

pretty obvious but dunning-kruger effect/“tortured genius” suburban drug & alcohol abusers. among the worst personalities.

No. 1479809

>>1479153
johnny depp

No. 1480533

Gender dysphorics by far. TiFs, Aiden, fakeboys, dysphoric women, whathaveyou, all make me cringe. It's very embarrassing and retarded. I get the reasons why they gravitate towards troonism. Society at large, their upbringing, their sexuality, in some cases, their awful pasts. I get it logically due to the circumstances she was dealt with, she thought trooning was the answer but in my heart, I think it's just very stupid and low iq.
Detransers are fine, at least they woke up. Unless they are still suffering from 'muh dyphoria', then they're stupid.

No. 1481162

i feel like the minority here but i actually vibe well with BPDchans, at least self aware ones. i don't agree with their life choices most of the time but from my experience they have a good sense of humor and can be very understanding. i myself have really bad OCD so i'm not very explosive/combative so maybe that's why i get along with them (until they have a depressive meltdown and cut everyone off for no reason kek).
a mental illness i cant deal with is anorexia. i cannot imagine for the life of me being friends with an anachan, i was one myself when i was younger and jesus is everyone with that disorder insufferable (including me at that time). miachans as well. i don't know what it is

No. 1481829

Addicts. The absolute sense of entitlement. The inability to own their shit. Blaming others for their shortcomings.
>It's an illness. It's out of my hands.
>My contract was illegally terminated.
>I arrived late but you should let me go first.
>Yeah I said and did shitty things but I was under influence because of muh illness.
Ffs some mentally ill folks are at least ashamed of themselves for not being able to show up on time and don't demand special treatment.

No. 1490244

Males with adhd should burn in hell I cannot stand their tapping, restlessness, mood swing of annoyance at the drop of a hat, frequent same old jokes like they're a broken record who needs attention NOW! FUCK OFF!

No. 1490298

>>1479809
most middle aged perpetually single white male actors in fact

No. 1490303

>>1490298
Can you not bring race into this?

No. 1491423

>>1481829
I hate addicts like this. It's not a disease, you made a choice you knew was stupid and you're letting everyone around you pay for it. Where did the 'disease' part even come from?

No. 1492128

Cutters. I get the euphoria from doing it but there's people who cope using other methods, and cutters always are the biggest bippiechan snowflakes I've ever met.

No. 1492309

>>1492128
I know someone who just turned 40 who still cuts. Like jfc, get it together.. That shit is embarrassing. I wont blame teens because it's a hard time in general, but if you are in your 30s and now 40s still cutting, I dunno what to say to you.

No. 1492321

>>1492309
Sad part is that once a person starts they never stop thinking about it. People can go 10+ years without doing it and decide they don't care anymore and break their streak. So I have some sympathy but at a certain point you need to find other coping mechanisms, especially if you're a parent. I've read about parents that cut and I can't imagine being a child of someone that self harms, it can't be healthy to grow up watching the person that's supposed to protect you harm themselves when things get tough.

Generally speaking though I don't have a lot of sympathy for parents with any kind of mental illness, including depression. I genuinely think that if you're mentally ill in such a way that can't be hidden from your kids, you shouldn't have had them. Bad genes can be counteracted by good parenting (nature vs nurture) but if you give a kid bad genes AND subject them to your mentally ill bullshit it's an absolute miracle if they turn out alright.

No. 1492358

>>1492321
That's really not true. Cutting stopped working as a coping mechanism for me when I was in my 20s because I developed new ones that were much better. If you break the habit like it's an addiction I can see how you'd have more relapses, but it's not an addiction for 99% of cutters.

No. 1492600

>>1492358
For me it's always a thought in the back of my mind that I have to ignore, I'm glad you've gotten past it though Nona. Bit OT but what coping skills do you use now?

No. 1492720

>>1490303
Anon isn't wrong though kek.
>>1492321
I've noticed mental health awareness getting wider these years, which is a good thing, but it's spawned a lot of often young parents (early 20s) who are anti-recovery and expect their own fucking children to cater to their own mental illnesses. As if a child is expected to understand your outbursts and random emotional detachments to them. Just spreading the cycle, I guess.

No. 1493952

>>1480533
Came here to say this too. I hate religion and anti-science (same thing) but at least religious people will admit it's a religion and based on faith. Genderspecials expect special treatment above and before everyone else. It's not enough you call her a he/him, you must now all wear tags stating your pronouns, you must introduce yourself at every meeting using those pronouns, you must pretend you actually see her as a male manly man while she hysterically cry in the bathroom over a customer "mistaking" her for a girl. All while they spew sexism and insult every part of being female, because that's manly or something.

No. 1494979

>>1493952
i feel like genderspecials ideologies will end the same way as Christianity. it will continue on but over time people will see through their pretentious bullshit and feel more comfortable on making fun or ignoring them

No. 1495222

Hypochondriacs/people with health anxiety or whatever they call it these days. You know the people who Google symptoms and complain about them and blow them way out of proportion, I ESPECIALLY can't stand it when they won't actually go to a doctor but will just whine and seek attention from everyone around them. They're similar to Munchies/malingerers I guess, whom I also can't stand. The only difference is the people I'm talking about don't waste resources as much, thankfully, but they do whine endlessly like bitches. If they truly thought they were sick they would do something about it instead of drain the will to live out of others.

No. 1497281

These people on Tiktok who swear they have 20 mental illnesses plus autism and ADHD. Is everyone fucking autistic ADHD these days jfc
And they're almost always some flavor of genderspecial too
I don't even use the app but ocasionally I look at that fakedisordercringe sub for a laugh

No. 1500014

Still hate bpdfags you're all annoying dramatic projecting assholes that can't admit when they're wrong unless it's as a ploy to get pity and manipulate people into saying it's okay

Cluster Bs are all pretty shit though, haven't had much experience with the other types of PDs.

No. 1500097

I hate autists who won't shut the fuck up about how autistic they are.

No. 1500108

OCD but specifically the intrusive/fixation thoughts (idk if that's all OCD or only certain kinds). I tried dating someone who had very real intrusive thoughts and rituals. And even though I cared about them a lot, it was so so hard to have literally hours long conversations where they just would not be able to let a certain thought go. We would talk things to death, she was even in therapy so we would go over every single thought and it's like she knew they would be a distortion but she just couldn't let it go or change her thinking. Truthfully it just hurt too much because she would end up getting upset that she couldn't let things go, and I would get upset over feeling helpless not really knowing how to help her.

Like for example…maybe she would see a video online of idk some scene from a movie where an animal dies. And she would get it in her head that the scene was real, and an animal was actually hurt, and she would start to panic about it. And we would then talk about how it was clearly a movie, it wasn't an actual animal, how laws are in place to make sure animals aren't mistreated on sets and there's no way an actual death could get filmed in a movie, etc etc.. basically inventing and then shooting down every possible anxious thought she would have. And then after ages of that, she would still circle back to "well, I just can't be sure the animal wasn't hurt, I just can't stop thinking about it". And until the obsession passes, it would be all she could talk about.

I tried so hard to be empathetic but I am only human and I admit that it was the main thing that broke us up. She felt unsupported when I would get overwhelmed, and I felt helpless when she had bad days or backslides.

I still think about her sometimes and I really hope she is happier now and has found some way to let those thoughts go. The hardest thing was always seeing how much she wanted to just stop fixating, and would even cry sometimes because she would get so frustrated with herself, but I know it wasn't her fault. Shit, writing all this hurt my heart even though it was years ago. :/(:/)

No. 1500120

What I hate most are the people that get a diagnosis and 100% behave like what is written on wikipedia. I've known so many of them, when I was younger it's been bpd, than ahdh and now autism, their only personality trait is their diagnosis. Had people come up to me, seeing scars, telling my that I must have bpd like they do and that I might react xyz and if I feel like abc, the whole catalogue out of wikipedia and I only nodded because I always knew that I don't have bpd, I self harmed for other reasons.

Besides that narcissists, was raised by one with hysterical and overbearing traits and a lot of suicide baiting. Told her countless times that she should go to therapy, always got the "I know, it's my fault, but I can't change" speech, day later everything was forgotten, then it would start over and over again. It took years to understand that it's not my fault and it will take years to recover from it, but I'm happy that I'm setting boundaries and if she can't change, I don't care anymore, I can overcome my mental health issues, which, to some degree, were caused by her behaviour, so she should at least be able to try.

No. 1500790

Anyone who thinks their mental illness is special and incurable and immune to all behavioral therapy or medication when they haven't even been to therapy or tried meds

I just wanna shake them and say "yes we all think this before we get treatment, nobody thinks these overwhelmingly awful feelings that we've been unable to stop by ourselves will be possible to get rid of, go anyway because statistically speaking those thoughts are wrong"

No. 1501024

>>1500790
Seconding this. Especially those who have (or often pretend to have, I think) a 3edgy5you personality disorder.

Often also found in people who blog about their mental health for all internet to see, usually with self harm or suicide threats, using up resources others would probably get more help out of and continuing to cry about how you are the most tragic character in the entire universe.

No. 1501130

I don't hate people for their mental illnesses - at the end of the day it's not their fault.
What I hate is people who think their mental illness or emotional problems are some kinda uwu smol delicate flower special personality traits. I get it if you're in your teens and desperate for some kinda identity but when this shit continues into your mid to late 20's it's just embarrassing and really paints a negative image of you as a potential life partner. As someone who's genuinely had a shitty past and is working hard to heal from it I find it absolutely mind-boggling how many people just flatly refuse to recover. I used to be into these kinda softboi moids, never again. Call me insensitive but at this point when a moid starts trauma dumping early on or talks about depression issues or whatever I just run, got burnt way too many times.

Also, life is nice when you actually put in the work and develop healthy coping mechanisms instead of endlessly dwelling on your pain and shitty past. Like, why would someone not want that? To just have a nice, relatively uncomplicated life?

No. 1501257

I hate how people with BPD constantly talk and act like they're the center of the universe. They unironically sound and act similar to drug addicts to me. Unpredictable and self-important. I mean all cluster-B people suck ass but I encounter a lot more unhinged women with BPD in my daily life, and I have no idea why people eat up their bullshit.

No. 1501264

I really do resent people who treat autism and adhd as quirky and fun.

No. 1501271

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I hate bpd fags in denial. Literally exhibit all the symptoms have even referred to themselves as bpd and still don’t believe they have it.
I know this person who does lots of drugs, destroys friendships, lies to their psychiatrist, refuses therapy despite having the money and health insurance, self harms, and then tries to play it off like she’s some naive deer in headlights type where she tries to pretend she’s normie as possible because she lacks an original personality.
I’m seething because I was fucked over by this bitch.
It’s just a huge slap to the face that she’s covered in scars and doing hard drugs and has the audacity to try to make herself look reasonable and normal when she’s so far from that.

No. 1501767

>>1501271
I always had a feeling that this thread was mostly anons armchair-diagnosing people they don't like but this is one of the most blatant

No. 1501806

>>1501767
When you have bpd you can smell the others from a 10 mile radius.

No. 1501855

>>1501806
Yes bpdchan you are better than the others

No. 1502119

>>1501855
How does that make me better? Wow I can spot people with the same bad behavioral problems as me.
You sound insecure and need to stop projecting your inferiority complexes on internet randos.

No. 1502171

I fucking hate "high functioning autistics". It's not autism, it's malingering.

No. 1502230

>>1502222
>This is NOT about your own disorder, so don't blogpost/vent, there's already a thread for that.

No. 1502232

>>1502230
oops i deleted it

No. 1502540

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I'm so tired of pretending troons are women. Why do people entertain this mental illness? (Rhetorical question.) It's actually clown shit that something that looks like pic rel not only can call itself a woman, but can be sexist and have it be considered funny and appropriate. Fucking Buffalo Bill faggots

No. 1510789

Petulant BPDs.
Bippies are already bad to deal with but the petulant subtype is a hellspawn.
Talk to them? You're doing it out of pity. Don't talk to them? You're ignoring them.
Do plans with them? You're annoying. Do plans without them? You don't care about them.
Will rant for hours about a minor thing that bothered them and will ruin their entire day on it (for example, a misplaced cup) and then go down on a hating/self hating spiral (misplaced cup? it means you're an egoist because you didn't put it in a easy reach for them to find thus you're the worst fucking person to them). Will not seek help because despite feeling like shit, they deep down know, as in narc traits, that crying and shouting gets them attention.
They have no empathy, they mimic emotions. They can't, for the life of them, figuring out that they're a crying baby and people please them out of exhaustion. They expect you to be little actors of their mental theatre, once you get a day for yourself and failed to let them know you're offline, they will go berserk thinking you're actively hiding something from them.
They don't love. They can't fucking love. Expect them to go out with you, act like a nice person and then, after the night is over, spewing out every ounce of hate they have just because they didn't vibe with the night. They can't take no for an answer and can't take accountability.
If you hold them accountable, they will shift the topic to "You also did this/You made me do that.".
Waste of meat and breath.

No. 1510794

Narcissists who say that narc abuse isn't real make me want to a-log. Posted one in Beauty Parlor the other day because she's a total cow on top of being a narc

No. 1510871

>>1502540
Then dont do it. I know some women are scared, but just dont humor or pander to them. The most free thing is to be a woman and acknowledge men are men.

No. 1511078

>>1510789
You just described every single trait of my friend with BPD and it's depressing. She's exactly like this, down to the last detail.

No. 1511831

>>1510794
"Just call it abuse" makes me mad

No. 1512196

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BPD. Self explanatory, no addition needed.
EDs especially anorexia. Like OP from the first thread said, it would be fine if they kept it to themselves but they always end up bringing everyone into it, commenting on other poeple's weight (even if they're at a healthy weight or even skinny), they just can't help but to project everything. I'm no HAES supporter but have you ever seen edtwt? Literally posting pics of random fat people, not even cows, and being cunts to them. They're like that IRL too btw, my two anorexic friends cant help themselves but to comment on strangers weight and eating habits.

Had a friend with severe anxiety and BDD and OCD and she was the most insufferable person ever. I ended up being forced into a caretaker role. She would self harm on her face then call me. She would also project her BDD on me. Like one time she came over, and first thing she tells me "Wow! Your skin looks really good aside from that one pimple" (i didnt even notice the pimple before she brought attention to it). She would also say stuff like "its compforting to feel sad and miserable whe you're drunk" and would romanticise the hell out of her issues.

Also i was fine with bipolar people but I just had intense drama with a roomate who's bipolar. EMTs literally came over last night and had to restrain him because he was being dangerously aggressive towards me. He's a 40 year old faggot as well btw. Anyways his lease ended yesterday so I'm free from him.

I suffered mental health issues when I was younger but that just makes me less empathetic because I know how much of it is selfishness, manipulation, refusal to take accountability, learned helplessness etc. I'm pretty much normal now (aside from sporadic deppressive episodes in which i keep to myself and dont bother other people and still remain somewhat functional). My thought process is that if I was a crazy crazy crazy bitch and got fully better and exhibit none of the behaviours I used to, that means that other people can get better too if they try. But they don't actually want to make an effort. Most mentally ill people, AT BEST, take their meds and go to therapy and thats it. They never actually try really hard and implement hard but necessary changes. They're too compfy in their own misery.

No. 1515069

>>1512196
>Had a friend with severe anxiety and BDD and OCD and she was the most insufferable person ever
Same here, I feel your pain. Mine would do her widdle sadbabbi act whenever I didn't coddle her enough, because she had a shit childhood and that gave her the right to talk to me at 3am on a work night about how she's going to kill herself if she can't fit into the clothes she wore when she was ten. I ended up changing my number in her phone to a suicide hotline and blocked her because I couldn't deal with her constant need for attention. These people are the human version of Tumblr.

No. 1536503

I hate schizos. At my old job this schizo woman would come in to pick up her taxes and I hated her every time eventually I would legit go hide in the bathroom and make my boss deal with her. I hated how she wouldn't "believe me" about random shit. Lady I'm the secretary why would I be lying to you I don't get paid enough to give more than the bare minimum shit about your documents. She was so suspicious it drove me fucking crazy. She would ask me 8-10 times if I was "sure" I would keep her documents secure and if she could trust me and would give me the most menacing stare and hold it for a very uncomfortable amount of time. I told my boss about her and apparently the woman laughed about it with her like she got a kick out of freaking me out. Fucking freak

No. 1537842

Done to death but male autists. The regular functioning ones specifically, at least the low functioning ones are largely kept away from lots of people so they don't hurt themselves or others and the really high functioning ones can just be quiet awkward nerds. But regular functioning male autists, who have absolutely no filter and follow you or do weird shit are the worst. Also it tends to be clear they're on the spectrum, which makes it hard to get away from them because everyone can see the obvious. You can't leave because it's rude, you can't tell them you're uncomfortable because it's rude, and heaven forbid you're rude to the autistic guy listing categories of people he hates while standing over you at your desk.

No. 1541377

Almost all addicts (drugs, food, gambling) deserve the consequences. No sympathy for those who actively damage themselves and make it everyone else's problem

No. 1544312

It seriously annoys me when a mentally ill person acts knowingly mean/inappropriate and then uses their disability as an excuse and attacks you if you don't buy it. If you're so mentally ill you continously harass people, you should be in a mental hospital, not outside interacting with unknowing people.

No. 1544313

obvious cluster B's or downright sociopaths/APDs calling people who disagree with them mentally ill and trying to gaslight people into thinking they are wrong because they are probably ill

No. 1544334

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>>1544313
Rare footage of anon calling you mentally ill vs you calling anon sociopath

No. 1544336

>>1544334
calling someone mentally ill here adds nothing to the discussion when everyone is either autistic or BPD in this website

No. 1544340

>>1544336
How do you separate a bpd from an autist?

No. 1544343

>>1544340
BPD-chans are quick to project and get angry fast, autism-chans usually write wall of texts. you know when you see it.

No. 1544365

>>1541377
Sounds like someone's addicted to rage

No. 1544487

>>1544336
I'm more of a schizo myself
>>1544343
Kek

No. 1544508

>>1492321
2 months late and I sort of agree with you, although
>if you're mentally ill in such a way that can't be hidden from your kids, you shouldn't have had them.
is a pretty naïve take. People can develop serious mental illnesses after having children, even without having a known genetic component. It's like when people (i.e. pRedditors) say that "if you're too poor to take care of your kids then you shouldn't have had them" when one's financial situation could very easily deteriorate from when they first had children, such as when losing a job. Circumstances change all the time.

No. 1544513

>>1544508
I think mental illnesses aren't comparable to having unstable finances. A mentally ill parent is much more likely to ruin a kids psyche and pass on mental illness whilst a poor kid has high chances of living a normal and average life. Redditors fit the first archetype, the ones that are mentally ill so of course they'll try to divert their genetic failures and instead argue poor people having kids is much worse.

No. 1544995

>>1544513
>a poor kid has high chances of living a normal and average life
Poor kids on average are more likely to suffer from mental illness than wealthier kids, are less educated, more likely to commit crimes and/or do drugs, earn lower incomes in adulthood, live shorter lives etc.
Obviously not every poor kid will end up that way, and to assume so would be disrespectful. But you really cannot understate how heavily poverty impacts the development of a child—definitely at least in the same way as a mentally ill parent, if not more—and it's ignorant to neglect that fact. Generational poverty is real, extremely well-documented, and horribly common in society.
>t. child of a mentally ill parent that ended up somewhat normal

No. 1545924

>>1544995
lack of social mobility is a failure of society, not individual parents

No. 1545958

Adult mom throws temper tantrums over every little thing and I get blamed for it out of nowhere because she blames me for everything.
I have tried to just make it amiable until I can leave but she always defaults back into the insanity and I am sick of her two-faced BS.

No. 1545974

>>1544995
>that ended up here
>normal
Kek.

No. 1546417

>>1545924
As long as the conditions of >>1544995 hold true regardless (as it does in the real world), the genesis of the financial state does not matter; therefore the initial claim
>a poor kid has high chances of living a normal and average life
is unsubstantiated. There is a lot that could be argued about who possesses agency under poverty, but that would launch an endless debate that ultimately does not fit this thread.
>>1545974
Yeah you're right about that kek
I'm pretty busy in school though so at least I spend a little less time here

No. 1566737

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No. 1567182

I don't believe in ARFID, that one very convenient eating disorder.
I don't believe in it because it's always fast food, sugary stuff or things like pasta and pizza, not normal food or some weird combination of them.
I understand not liking textures/looks of a food, for example I really hate "clear" soups, the kind where you can see the bits floating in broth, it makes my skin crawl, but I don't believe at all in something that's like:

>Ohhh I'm so skinny/overweight because I have ARFID and my only safe foods are pizza, chocolate milk, hot dogs and chicken nuggies :( Ohh I can only eat those! My disorder says so!


Shut up, god. Stop being such a bitch about food, grow the fuck up.

No. 1567199

>>1566737
bitch, learn out of it. do therapy, idk, figure it out or stay alone. people who hurt others don't deserve empathy from their victims.

No. 1567261

>>1566737
People like this deserve to be hit by a fucking bus

No. 1567354

>>1567182
knew a kid who legitimately had it, he'd pretty much have panic attacks if he had to eat anything outside of some extremely bland, extremely specific foods. not all junk food mind you. he wasn't being a spoilt bbrat, it was debilitating for him. he was also legitimately autistic
that said i'm sure there are plenty of uwu neurodiverse mentally ill smol beans who pretend to have it as an excuse to live on tendies

No. 1567363

>>1567182
i just cant deal with any "adult" who act like trying something new will kill them. im legit embarrassed by how picky an eater my own mother is without any excuse like ARFID to blame

No. 1567415

>>1566737
no one is inclined naturally though. just another anti-recovery type of post common to social media. yes you went through trauma and it damaged your brain, but if you're aware enough of this fact, can you not be aware enough to change?
it's just lack of responsibility.

No. 1567448

>>1567182
I agree so much. A family member of mine who is also in her early 20s has it and it's so fucking stupid. I understand eating disorders, and I can see how someone who may have other conditions might not be able to try certain foods (i.e. autism, or if someone gets an upset stomach easily). She, on the other hand, has NO CONDITIONS.
>Eliminated chocolate in elementary school because it "made her throat itch" (she has zero allergies)
>Eliminated meat in middle school because she found out about pink slime (she has zero moral, environmental, or dietary reasonings for refusing to eat meat)
>regularly decides she can't eat something anymore, can't just say she doesn't want it, always insists it causes her physical discomfort

It's so fucking tiring to deal with. All she eats is pizza, macaroni, and other beige foods like garlic bread and rice krispies. Her diet was 75% tostino's pizza for probably 5-6 years (not exaggerating) and she had to have her gallbladder removed a few years ago because of her shitty diet. I don't personally care anymore, but it was embarrassing for a while when we'd be at more formal stuff around our family or when I was with friends. What fucking adult takes two bites of plain pasta with marinara and refuses to eat any more because "it tastes funny?" It tastes like every marinara pasta at every restaurant we've ever been to. I'm long past feeling mortification on her behalf, now it's just a matter of suffering through her eating choices. Our family is visiting in a month and she wanted to go to a concert, I don't mind driving the multiple hours to the venue but I do fucking mind that she sent me the menu to a chain called "I heart Mac & Cheese" and told me she wanted to eat there and that she already had scouted out the locations in my city and the city we're going to.

You literally cannot escape their cruddy diet because it 100% is attention seeking. I've known people with celiacs or other dietary restrictions, and they never bring it up and usually plan in advance what/when they're going to eat so they don't burden other people. People with ARFID require that everyone caters to them, from restaurant choice, to leaving things early because they're hungry and can't eat anything, to abruptly deciding they have to eat this one thing or can't eat something else. It'll be months since we've visited and the next thing I know we're driving 30 minutes to an italian grocers for one specific product. I love her and don't want to sound hostile, I just have never ever vented about this.

Part of my animosity toward this bullshit disorder is that I grew up with her, and her eating seriously affected mine. It took me until I was 17 to start trying new foods. I don't have ARFID, I'm a little picky but I'm not a child and if there's something I don't like I'll just eat around it or politely decline (which is a completely novel idea to people with arfid). ARFID (90% of the time in someone without some other condition) is a pathetic excuse used by people who were coddled as children who still want to be coddled as adults. Her health has suffered because of it, and it has and continues to impact other people. You can tell when someone is putting on a show of trying to get better too, and people with ARFID are absolutely terrible about it because they'll go on about how they finally got the courage to try a goddamn mango, and of course they didn't like it after having it in their mouth for a whole 3 seconds because of a texture thing or because "it tasted funny," but they expect you to be in absolute awe of their stunning bravery.

No. 1567453

>>1567448
samefagging because I want to clarify that there's nothing wrong with dietary preferences. Like her, I also don't really like meat but I don't pretend like it makes my stomach hurt or as if I have a moral imperative. I'm talking purely about people who don't have autism or something else, just an ARFID diagnosis and a shitty attitude. Years ago I saw a post where someone described how they overcame it after their mom had to bring chicken tenders to some sort of a event just so they could eat. They explained that they realized how immature and embarrassing it was on their part and the lengths others had to go to just to accommodate their antics, and ultimately decided to cure themselves. They said they forced themselves to eat new foods for several weeks straight, sometimes even puking, until they got over their fear of trying new stuff and their brain quit trying to physically expel unfamiliar foods. Obviously that person had more mental fortitude than most, I don't think it has to be that bad, but to me it proves that anyone still eating like a 6 year old is eating that way because they have zero shame about it and don't truly understand that they ought to fix it. My cousin has had other health issues that are 100% a result of her not getting enough nutrients, plus lacking nutrients also has effects on general mental health.

No. 1567484

>>1567182
there are autistic people who has it like >>1567354 says. But in those cases you can always tell when its genuine. Also if you seriously do have ARFID then you need to see a specialized therapist that will help you eating new foods instead of going "hehe i can only eat my safe food because of ARFID". It's obvious when people fake ARFID to be quirky. Tbh being a picky eater as an adult is embarrassing at best and unhealthy at worst. I would maybe have more respect for ARFID fakers if they admitted only eating pizza was a health concern and something they where working on.
What I specially hate is when parents diagnoses their own toddlers with ARFID. It's natural for a child to be skeptical over new foods and it's the parents job to guide them trough it stop blaming everything on disorders and do your damn job

No. 1568074

I've got a list
Bipolar type one and schizophrenia. You're both insane and your hallucinations/delusions irritate the shit out of me. Bipolar types twos are very relatable to me.
Anorexia pisses me off. Bulimia does to a lesser extent, but it's mostly ana-chans that drive me up the wall. NOBODY CARES that you're a skelly "queen" or that you think you're fat. People range from worried to not caring, and I feel the best way to help ana-chans is to never mention their weight and try to make them feel good about themselves. If we stop demonizing women's bodies, maybe they'll be less hard to deal with. But the ones that make me want to slap them in the skull are the "fatspo" or mean girl types. I know it's not all anorexics and exclusively the ones who are untreated Cluster B (Usually NPD or HPD) who do that but it's a terrible combo nobody should have to deal with.
I actually prefer the presence of women with GID, BPDs doing DBT/medications regularly, and people with ASPD to most other mental disorders. Autists are hit and miss because certain types of autism clash with other types and ones with "verbal ticks/stims" and who chew make me irrationally angry and, oddly, it triggers a fight or flight response. Usually I can shoot the shit with women who are aspies or high functioning, though.
Off topic but disorder fakers are worse than anyone with any disorder, because the want to fake suffering for sympathy or cool points is annoying at best and repulsive at worst

No. 1568084

>>1492321
I'm late to this but I grew up with a mother who was a cutter (amongst other things). It was a really fucking weird way to grow up. I never had friends come over because I was scared they would comment on her cuts/scars since she made no effort of hiding them outside of going to work. When we would go to family functions everyone in our family would look at them but never dared to comment.

No. 1568098

Scrotes. Being a scrote automatically means mental illness.

No. 1568102


No. 1568189

>>1470499
i know this post is old but i have to respond because you just described an old coworker of mine to a T. it was insane how deluded and self-obsessed he was. i remember one time we were having a promotion where you scratched off a ticket to see if you got a coupon, there were three possible choices and you got to scratch one with each card having one win. he was talking about it and said each customer had a one in ten chance of winning and i was like no, they have a one in three chance of winning, cause there's three choices. he literally stared at me and went dead silent, it was the weirdest thing in the world, like he was malfunctioning irl. then without skipping a beat he went "obviously there's a one in three chance of winning nonna, i don't know why you would say there was a one in ten chance, that doesn't make any sense, haha there's three options so there's a one in three chance, duh." i was so shocked i didn't even know what to say, weirdest fucking moment of my life. he definitely had autism but i have no idea what else that made him so narcissistic and unable to accept he was wrong that the only way he could process it was by rewriting reality so the other person was wrong. it was nuts to see that kind of delusion in action.

No. 1568352

Autistic men. Autistic women are usually cool as fuck, if they're awkward it's not such a big deal to me and they usually at least try to be empathetic if they need to be. Men don't do any of it. They're almost always sex pests and will stammer on about their special interests, usually it's fucking video games as well. They don't try to read the room, I was in a relationship with one once and he invited himself to my house unannounced multiple times a week (might sound like nothing but in my country it's extremely unusual and even rude to not call beforehand). Very fun he also did this when I told him I was drowning in homework because I was in law school at the time, and then when I did find time to spend with him which was like twice a week (didn't see my friends even because between it all I had no time) he only bitched and moaned about how 'muh depressed' he was because 'we never see each other'. After we broke up he also said over the phone that if he would kill himself he'd 'take me first'. Fun times. Only cool autistic guy I've ever known was obsessed with guns and militaria but I actually liked hearing about it, he was chill, pretty interesting to talk with and his parents were really sweet as well.

No. 1568383

>>1568352
I can't deal with it with women either tbh. A female classmate was autistic in middle school and would be very violent and scary. She was supposedly high functioning. One of my friends suspects she's autistic as well and it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case, no clue if she managed to get tested before moving back to her family. At first I thought she was just very shy and a little bit stressed from the crazy workload we had because of university but it turns out she's even worse all the time even after graduating. If it's not autism it's something similar enough.

No. 1568507

>>1568383
There are medications to treat violent outbursts in Autistic people. I only know of Risperdal, but it has a lot of very bad side effects. Most are rare, but it tends to make people jump 5+ BMI points and incapable of losing the weight until they drop the meds, and in women they cause intense hot flashes at and after puberty, usually during ovulation. In moids it causes them to develop tits. Very, very strange, but because of these side effects it's a "worst case scenario" antipsychotic. Like, "Autist so mad he tries to kill someone" bad. Usually Autistic people get taken off of it at 15, but if they are still violent into adulthood, they make it permanent or try to switch the medication.

No. 1568564

Really tired of my mom telling me that if I don't answer the phone, she thinks I died in a horrific accident or got murdered by an intruder or some shit. She has a bipolar diagnosis but it's the schizophrenic kind. My grandparents coddled her all her life and has no hobbies so literally all she does is watch cable news and get paranoid induced panic attacks over every little thing. When she gets off her meds, she gets hyper-religious and shit. When we do talk over the phone, she dumps all her anxieties and super self-conscious stuff on me or tells me how doting on my 35 y/o deadbeat alcoholic brother gives her a sense of purpose. I really feel bad for venting about her because I know she can't help it, but when do I get a moment to say how much her mental problems affected me

No. 1568591

>>1568564
I have a mom with OCD and crippling anxiety. Phone calls are hard bc any time I mention doing anything, the ritualistic warnings start. It sucks because I can't even tell her about mundane activities without knowing I activated her OCD and feeling terrible about it. Now, I just pretend I do nothing, just watch Netflix and go to work. No details. I can't even tell her I drove thirty minutes to visit my friend without knowing she'll be hyperventilating about it for days.

Last year she called me repeatedly, in tears, over a period of weeks, because she had a paranoid fantasy that I died of heavy metal poisoning. This happened because of one phone call where I mentioned I was eating a tuna sandwich.

No. 1568685

>>1568591
My mom has OCD, and it requires intensive therapy, and often medication, to live a normal life.
An interesting fact about OCD, is it's moreso an amplifier for everything else you have. For your mom, her anxiety is made unmanageable by OCD. My mom has a percocet addiction, for example, and it is all she can think of because she's physically disabled and in such severe pain, if she's not heavily drugged she's either thinking about getting more oxy or how she can't do anything due to her pain.

No. 1568693

>>1568591
>>1568685
How people like this can reproduce is beyond me. How the fuck can you even find love when you can barely act normally in your everyday life, let alone get married, have kids and raise your kids?

No. 1568711

>>1568074
>Bipolar types twos are very relatable to me
>I actually prefer the presence of women with GID, BPDs doing DBT/medications regularly, and people with ASPD

BPDchan spotted

No. 1568715

>>1567182
I can't stand adult 'picky eaters'. I know an adult woman who refuses to eat ANY vegetables with the exception of carrots. Planning any meals with her is a nightmare especially as there are many vegetarians in our friend group. She also always self-victimizes whenever someone questions her about her food choices, her weight or even if someone makes fun of food AT ALL. She once claimed pineapple on pizza jokes are 'violence' kek

No. 1568718

>>1568693
Sometimes OCD develops or gets worse later in life, anon. The changes you experience during pregnancy could probably even trigger it. And it's illogical like many mental illnesses, some things may not trigger your anxiety like other things do.

No. 1568792

>>1568591
AYRT. Yes it's the exact same way with my mom. I can barely tell her anything going on in my life or else she freaks out. A week or so ago, I told her all I did was get gas for my car that day and she spiraled into this rant based off some movie my brother made her watch about how I shouldn't ever honk at anybody while driving even if they swing into my lane then leave my phone in the car while getting gas or else some guy will sneak inside while I'm filling up, grab my phone, find out where I live, and kill me and all my loved ones kek. I tell her she should really try to find something to do like crafting or scrapbooking like she used to and I'll pay for it all, but she thinks she's too old for that stuff.

>>1568693
I typed out a whole thing but decided to condense it into: men seek out poor, mentally ill women like my mom and trick them with false love and promises of life stability and a happy family only so they can have a being with no strong support system they can use and abuse.

No. 1569027

>>1568693
My mom wasn't physically disabled or addicted to Oxy/percocet until I was 12, and now she's unable to function without it
She's had OCD her whole life, hell, I have it worse than her but medication does wonders for managing it, so long as I avoid triggers (raw meat, human/animal waste) as much as humanly possible. With some people, especially unmedicated OCDchans, those triggers are unavoidable and you get people who are insufferable.

No. 1569169

>>1569027
Does OCD have high chances of being inherited? Is yours similar to hers? I have it too but I'm wondering if I got it from one of my parents perhaps.

No. 1569174

I just hate how in the attempt of trying to destigmatise any mental illnesses/disorders nowadays, people have started to depathologise them by claiming certain clearly disordered or dysfunctional traits are actually typical, or that it's "not a disability" when it clearly affects the life, relationships etc. of the person with it and their loved ones.
With the rise of social media you have plenty of people claiming "neurodivergence" as an umbrella term and then you have examples like people with dyslexia saying they can't read social cues when that isn't a dyslexic trait at all, or some impressionable child claiming their ADHD causes manic episodes. It's like 50-year-old AGP diaper feeder troons grouping themselves with young lesbians by claiming the umbrella term "queer".
Then there's the uprising of those who notice they have behaviours pertaining to a certain diagnosis, and immediately believe they're entitled to getting said diagnosis. If it doesn't impair your social or mental functioning on a day-to-day basis, it shouldn't be a qualification for any diagnosis. Telling people they are "valid" or that psychology and society are wrong and nothing is wrong with them.

No. 1569221

>>1569027
Sage for possible medfag but nona, have you tried ERP therapy? It's probably not a good idea to avoid triggers because that just makes your OCD much worse. The whole purpose of ERP for OCD is exposure to that trigger so the OCD can't attack it anymore. Medication helps, but it only blocks out the symptoms rather than gets rid of them permanently.

No. 1569423

>>1569169
I'm not sure, actually. But mine is actually far different from hers and got really severe, really fast, out of almost nowhere because of inchworms and plants, and seeped into other things quite quickly. Hers is moreso what pain she's in or if the door is locked or oven is on.
>>1569221
Surprisingly, no. 12 years of intensive therapy and nobody thought to try that. My guess is that child me washing my skin off and having panic attacks was a greater concern than the possibility of me never being capable of self care. Thanks nona!

No. 1569441

>>1568591
>>1568564

Random moments of panic that your adult or near-adult child has had some horrible accident is an occasional thing even for non-mentally-ill mothers, have to tell you. She should work on rationalizing and compartmentalizing, but even if that's not possible, she could - and needs to - learn not to unload it on you frequently/in graphic detail.

On your end, you can tell her it makes you uncomfortable/feel negative/drained to hear every time you talk and you don't want to hear it. Then enforce that boundary.

Parents/people get all sorts of weird, especially over time and depending how life has played out. But every child of a needy or overly intense parent (or any other kind of parent)should know that it's okay to have and require boundaries even when it's going to hurt someone they love.

Your mother is an adult, struggles or not, and it is her responsibility to manage her own emotions and fears rather than to pull you into them. And that goes whether she is diagnosed with a severe mental illness, or is "just" depressed/disappointed in life/overusing substances/lonely/unhappy with what her life is.

No. 1569477

>>1569169
Mental illness is 100% environmental. "Inherited" is just a way for you or your insurance to buy and consume pharmeceuticals. It's business.

No. 1569551

>>1569477
Actually Autism, Bipolar, Schizophrenia, and ADHD are confirmed to be genetic in most or all cases, but I think OCD is more trauma-based

No. 1569940

>>1569423
Hopefully it'll help. Talk therapy, CBT, DBT etc. don't work shit for OCD because they're methods for treating egosyntonic disorders or traits, whole OCD is not, so they often do nothing or make it worse. Good luck nona
>>1569477
I'm pretty sure if two autists or ADHDs bred the child would also be an autist or ADHD anon. Or if you're talking non-neurodevelopmental then usually complex shit like schizophrenia or bpd or bipolar gives the child a much higher chance of developing it too.

No. 1571012

Whatever it is that makes people believe Taylor Swift (or Paris Hilton) is a lesbian

No. 1571015

BPD care in the UK is a joke. It truly does make you insufferable, I had the worst BPD symptoms until they gave me seroquel which changed everything for me. Didn’t give it to me until I literally tried to gas myself with helium and was found blue by my roommate.

Now I live a much happier life, am not predisposed to as many friendship dramas and can sleep the whole night.

It’s literally that simple, so many people could be helped by this simply medication

No. 1573130

I was at the hospital for some minor physical symptoms because I needed a quick consultation and when it was over and I went back to the waiting room guess what happened? Some big autistic kid slapped a old man across the face so hard he let go of his cane and his glasses flew across the room. The dad's reaction was just "oopsie doopsie sorry about that teehee" to the old man. The fuck? I kept hearing loud monkey noises before that I'm sure it was the kid yelling too.

No. 1573212

>>1470488
Autists and the way the internet coddles entitled autists into getting their way otherwise you're "ableist" and can't understand how hard it is to demand people change their behaviors to suit your neuroses make me so fucking mad. I have OCD and it would be ridiculous for me to say that other people are being horrible to me for not indulging my particular obsessions yet autists get away with their self-infantilizing bullshit while being some of the most toxic bullies you will encounter if you're friends with a particularly bad one.

No. 1573720

>>1573212
In the exact same boat nona. It's like since they can't be cured, they think they're free to do whatever they want. It's not like it's a disorder in the end that still fucks up with their life and functioning.

No. 1577267

Self harmers. Act blase about a cutter's old scars and watch how much they seethe you aren't treated them like a tortured soul. Hahaha

No. 1577278

>>1571015
I liked seroquel at first then it made me pee myself because I was too drowsy and spaced out to realise I needed to pee and I gained 10kg

No. 1577281

>>1571015
The thing with psych meds is what seems like a godsend to one person will send someone else over the edge. I'm managing now but back when I was getting help, in groups, in hospital, in these daycentres where they put lots of mentally ill people together and try to socialize you together lol.. people with the same disorders would report wildly different reactions to the same meds.

No. 1577316

>>1577267
You sound friendly

No. 1577318

>>1577316
You sound triggered

No. 1577397

>>1577267
Lol so what do you do, point out the scars and go "i don't care about that" and then you confuse their bewildered expression for seething? Retards like you always brighten my day

No. 1577399

>>1577281
There are entire classes of psych meds that have been proven not to work better than active placebo. SSRIs, for example, only work for a tiny fraction of the people prescribed them, and then only until the placebo effect wears off.

No. 1577415

>>1568074
anorexia is so ideologically ugly, slave morality bullshit. oh im so much better than other disgusting women who give in to their appetites, im a pure clean angel aescetic because i deprive myself of all pleasure and sustainance. such spiritual loserdom, literally a holdover from ancient loser copes
out of interest, why are you chill with aspd types? the only ones ive ever had contact with are like borderline retarded, no prospects, the only goal of their tard tier manipulations is sex/drugs, and they're not even savvy enough to be polite about it. theyre like mindless scrotedrones in my experience.
>>1568383
tbh ive had similar difficulties with other sperg girls. one in my primary school was very irritating and really latched on to me because we were similar in our spergy interests, but she was unpredictable and just put me on edge.
>>1577397
fuck i would love it if someone said this to me ngl. nothing makes me cringe harder than someone taking me aside for a "serious talk" because they saw my old keloids, actually makes me want to puke with embarrassment

No. 1577485

>>1577397
People can be really retarded about scars. I've gotten some really weird reactions from strangers and coworkers.

No. 1577683

>>1577485
i'm sorry for that happening to you. it's been at least a decade since anyone has had any reaction to mine at all. normal adults don't go around bringing up the disfigurements of others for no reason. autistics probably do but i avoid them for many other reasons lol.

No. 1578032

>>1577485
I have literallyoverathousand but they're concentrated in one place so even after many years although they're mostly white and flat the flesh is completely different, when I was barely an adult I worked a lot of technical jobs that took a lot of physical labor in really hot temperatures and when I'd move certain ways sometimes the people at work would could get a glimpse if they were on a press with me. I never talked about them and was really nice and conversational with people but the spectrum of reactions to them were just too much, and since I was only 18 I didn't really know how to process it all. I have also made sure the entirety since they happened to never purposely show them in any capacity in public or around family, friends. There was a guy that stopped what he was doing and hugged me for a really long time to the point that it was uncomfortable, I didnt like that but also didn't find out til later it was because he had them in the same spot. He started following me around after that and I was mad because I thought he pitied me. That's one of the nicer? ones I guess but mostly it was men literally twice my age and above talking about it incessantly with eachother even if they'd never spoke to me. 18 years old and a 48 year old man called me into the office and asked me to cut the new paper cards because he said it seemed like I would be good at it. The guys were snickering about it. I could handle that as a joke now and probably make a casual comment like yeah yeah come on but I look back and can't imagine doing that to an 18 year old kid. I ignored it mostly but thinking about it now, people were pretty awful. Most people don't know now and I would never talk about it because I have never felt the need to. Open and closed situation. People who feel they need to be represented or shown just confuse the dominant part of my brain that wonders why you would want to willingly expose yourself to the cruelty of other people. The only reason I stopped was superficial entirely, I and my bf at the time had pretty bad self harm tendencies and I just felt disgusted by other people's opinions. If it weren't for that I imagine I never would have stopped, if I'm being honest. Again something I would never say to anyone in any context. People love to use that kind of stuff against you, having no idea what you dealt with or how you were raised or treated at the time. A lot of times they don't realize that men also do it, through how I did it I learned about a lot of men who did the same thing. There's a cliche that only teenage girls do it, but I've known several grown men IRL with it, even more online. It's a very cathartic form of control as a child when you are being hurt in worse ways idk. I don't go out of my way to think about it anymore but it's peculiar that people will learn that one insignificant fact about you even years and years later and decide that you deserve some sort of taunting or cruelty.

No. 1578033

>>1578032
Bitch I can't believe I wrote all of that. Whatever

No. 1581366

>>1577415
>anorexia is so ideologically ugly, slave morality bullshit. oh im so much better than other disgusting women who give in to their appetites, im a pure clean angel aescetic because i deprive myself of all pleasure and sustainance. such spiritual loserdom, literally a holdover from ancient loser copes
yeah, makes no sense… almost like it's a mental illness or something huh… on the other hand i do think the people in internet groups for it and people who don't try to keep it to themselves as much as possible are annoying. i've had 2 separate instances in college where a girl would "clock me" and befriend me over it because they basically would dump all their personal shit on me as if i cared and i found it to be invasive and creepy. i avoid other anachans like the plague

No. 1581374

Really just can’t stand people with my exact same issues especially if it’s all they ever talk about and they share a lot and it’s all that gets discussed every time we see each other. Really have to keep those people at a distance. Save it for group therapy I’m trying to have a nice time not help you work through your trauma just because I can relate somewhat

No. 1583296

Fucking autism. I hate how it's become so popular mainstream that now everyone and their mothers claim to have autism. My autistic friends ans their autistic habits piss me the fuck off. Maybe I'm biased because I only know absolutely insufferable autists, but autism is so stupid in a whole. "I don't like _____ or you can't do _____ to me because I'm AUTIZTIC!!1!1!1" A lot of people stand stuff that they dislike because that's just fucking life. Why do autistic people just get to be coddled? Literally just tolerate it. I dislike crossing streets for example but I don't avoid it completely or force cars to not drive on roads.

No. 1583340

It’s a real chore sometimes being around people who constantly catastrophize. I can absolutely empathize with the impulse to worry about worst case scenarios, but there are those who are in a perpetual state of panic because of it which is tough to deal with.

No. 1584333

Malingerers are THE worst people on the planet.

No. 1585341

>>1583296
had a friend in high school (and we still hung out in college) who was obsessed with her mental health where she kept self diagnosing herself with things like BPD, autism, etc. one time we hung out at a bookstore and it was just fine but this was during a time where she was convinced she was autistic and kept "acting autistic" on purpose where i knew her for years and knew it was just her playing up having supposed autism. it was extremely cringe. she stopped talking to me one day anyway (years ago) and other people from high school showed me her tiktok which her username is an inside joke that was between us or so i thought? she's some flavor of fakeboi now (it was years in the making and i always told her its ok to be a tomboy it doesnt make you any less female), has an ugly ass permed wolfcut that is bright pink (oddly enough my hair was that same pink for 2 years) and still has that JJBA keychain i got her. i bet its a nice conversation starter about an ex-friend who is sooooper transphobic.

No. 1588371

When people take everything way too personally. Like, if I ask someone to please turn their music down and they accuse me of hating them and wanting them to die, when the reality is no, your music is just too loud. Why would you assume that I’m making a passive aggressive attack on you?

No. 1588981

>>1588371
I have a director who is just like this. We are dancers, dance is fluid, sometimes we end up in a different spot and that's all right. Sometimes someone attempts to be helpful and tells her we did something different last practice and she gets extremely angry.

I don't think it's narcissism but I don't know what else to call it. Constant actual, minor gaslighting (insisting she said something minutes before despite everyone saying she didn't), getting very accusatory and escalating quickly at anything someone says that goes against what she wants that very second. It's not that bad because everyone knows how she is, so it's not embarrassing when she picks a fight and you have to "lose" or back down (only way to get her to chill), but it still sucks because we can't give any input and must somehow read her mind at all times. I don't get it, the world isn't out to get you, people aren't trying to antagonize you, why does everything have to be a fight?

No. 1590029

ana-chans suck the joy and life out of everyone and everything they interact with. Their disorder is by design competitive which means that if you are their ''friend'' or even acquainted with them in any way, they will obsessively compare their body and eating habits to yours. When they say ''i feel so fat'' in front of their normal BMI friends, it is not innocuous, they are well aware of the insecurity it will cause them and their malnourished brains get pleasure from it. The average ana-chan is basically a narcissistic demon whose only joy in life is seeing her own mother in tears because she will starve herself into an early grave.
>inb4 fatty

No. 1612513

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I think I genuinely can't stand other people with mental illnesses. This is gonna sound retarded kek, but I joined this meme page on Facebook that was supposed to be humorous and make light of our mental illnesses, past or present. I then saw some cringe PSA about how anyone laugh reacting at a post will get facebook jail, so I questioned it saying isn't that the point of the sub? Of course I get muted and now I can't defend myself against the nutters who are inexplicably angry about me questioning something. People with mental illnesses are so fragile and sensitive and it makes them really insufferable to be around, especially as someone who is recovered from depression and other crippling mental illnesses. I just wanted to look at funny memes and try to have a lighthearted outlook on my dark past, but it seems like so many other people in the throes of their mental illnesses want to stay there and attack anyone else who has moved on and improved their lives.

No. 1613350

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Men with borderline personality disorder.

Holy shit. Holy FUCKING shit!
So help you if you ever fall for their lovebombing and find yourself in a relationship with one. They are satisfaction-less, black voids where you can spend a lifetime shoveling effort and care into only to receive an iota-to-nothing in return.
Just escaped a six month situationship with one, here are some highlights:
>at least one 3+ hour fight over mundane trigger event, almost every day
>if he had a bad dream about me (i.e. I left him, cheated, etc.) he would use that against me and act like I had to make up to him over these fictitious dream events with acts of devotion or verbal reassurances
>constant mood swings, black and white thinking, never happy for more than a few hours at a time
>guilt trips, controlling behaviors, gaslighting, extreme paranoia
>talked over me and dominated every conversation with his interests, he actually didn't know a damn thing about me
>I was never allowed to be alone, especially on the phone, and he would become angry with rejection if I asked
>intruded on me in the bathroom
>always complained that I wasn't doing enough for him even if by objective standards I was overcompensating for him
>complained about almost every date, trip, and activity I planned for us meanwhile I was supposed to kiss his feet with endless gratitude for my once a month dinner date
>in fact, he could not handle criticism at all and would fly into rages if he sensed any
>constantly accused me of cheating, especially loved to accuse me of fucking my boss
>could not hold a job, employed only 1 month under the table by his bro whom he talked massive shit about
>btw said everyone in his family treated him like oh such shit until he'd catch himself in his own stories where they treated him actually more than decent, also a trust fund kid
>chronic alcoholic and weed abuser
>refused therapy or would future fake promises of going to therapy to avoid accountability
>acted like he knew better than therapists, yet adopted lingo such as 'gaslight' to weaponize against me whenever I brought up issues
>took his medications on and off and would use his intermittent use as proof that meds don't really work
>suicide baited at least 2x per week
>used my kitchen knives to cut and destroy property in rages
>would harm himself if I enforced boundaries in his attempt to train me to never say no to him and do as his will
>accused me of making him "submit" or crushing him like a can just for reinforcing reasonable boundaries and being firm
>jumped out of my moving vehicle once because I wouldn't take him to the movie theater after he berated me
>caught him watching porn behind my back but accused me of cucking him when I was charging my clit vibe
>always had sex on his terms and never mine
>impulsive spender for himself, extremely stingy and scorekeepy when spending on me even for when he owed money such as his half of rent or trips and activities we were supposed to 'split'
>escalated violence with strangers even when it would put me in potential danger too
>history of violence in general
>zero friends irl except for one online friend or two who he always argued with
>hated most of my friends and isolated me from social events especially if other men were around
>if I got called to work he insisted to go with me and would become irate if other men were there
>always tempted for me to breakup with him, when I agreed that we should he would swiftly turn it around on me and insist I would need to call police to remove him
>robbed my house on the day he left for good while I was not home, and specifically agreed to break up because I was not around to see what he was stealing
>admitted he was a monstrous piece of shit over text but ofc never did shit to change it or make amends

Men with BPD should undergo forced sterilization. They are demons. Bad enough they may darken the doorsteps of poor unsuspecting women, but they don't need to burden society further by reproducing. Too bad they're so criminally under-diagnosed because BPD is a "women's disorder."
The only reason I won't ALOG is because he'd enjoy the attention and image of victimhood too much.

No. 1613358

>>1613350
Men with BPD are the most psychotic, empty husks alive no contest. Case study levels. They will grow up with silver spoons and no childhood trauma whatsoever and somehow be children of the corn level of evil.

No. 1613519

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I don't know why anorexics get coddled so much on here when they're so ideologically similar to trannies. It's like they willingly put themselves in situations that trigger their body dysmorphia and then get mad when it's triggered. They also love to project their own mental illness onto everyone else. They require constant asspats and validation to survive. Bulimics have more fun, they're less snooty and stuck up.
That being said, unlike anorexics, at least trannies are funny/entertaining (even if unintentionally). Same thing with ASPD and NPD havers - some of the funniest people alive, and they're fucking psychopaths, but that's exactly what makes them so funny. I usually get along pretty well with them. They're not afraid of what people think. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall, though. They're extremely stubborn. I don't mind their narcissism because I actually take a sort of voyeuristic pleasure in listening to other people whine about their lives (maybe this is a sign of some personality disorder that hasn't been invented yet).
As everyone knows, BPDemons are called that for a reason. One day you're their favorite person and they can't live without you, the next you mean nothing to them. They're not content in their own misery, they have to drag everyone else down with them. I don't think men get diagnosed with BPD enough, though. A lot of MTF troons I know fit all of the criteria for BPD but doctors don't recognize it as such because they're male.

No. 1613524

>>1613519
I think reading this has made me retarded.

No. 1613526

>>1613524
t. anachan

No. 1613535

>>1613350
was he hot at least anon. was the sex insanely good. will you take this new found information that actually applies to a shitload of men and use it to your benefit

No. 1613537

i can let a lot of mental illness from women slide because they're women and by virtue of being born women it justifies how fucked up they can become. they usually have empathy and are capable of being better. they arent as entitled. they can carry the weight of complex suffering without chimping out, usually.

for me its male bipolars OR schizophrenics.
Bipolar men are terribly controlling down to the slightest detail. they have all the shittiness of an ongoing BPD breakdown but if they are smart, they masterfully manipulate you while manic. its all your fault, you are my soulmate, love and hate is just yin and ying, we can make so much money, this was all your idea to begin with, etc.
Schizophrenic men can display similar behaviours but they end up becoming violent while unmedicated. they go down a religious cult hole that is so common among them (but they are speshul) and if they can obtain ANY influence over people then they see themselves as jesus the chosen one.
While schizophrenic men are violent and toxic to others, the women with this disorder instead tend to harm themselves and self destruct. I will never associate with a personality disordered, bipolar or schizophrenic man. these disorders take the core of scroteism and twist to the limit, you will see the real fucking devil if you let them in

No. 1613593

>>1613535
I hate to not all men, yet affirmatively, not all men.

No. 1613863

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I can't deal with PTSD sufferers. Sorry. You'd think a traumatized person would not want to talk about a horrifically traumatizing event, but all of the ones I know go on about it all the time and try to make it into a competition. Also they do the same thing that depressed people do where they trauma-dump and disguise it as a "joke." You could wish them a Merry Christmas and they'll go "haha can't relate my father was an abusive alcoholic who hung himself on Christmas day 15 years ago" like ok

No. 1613911

>>1613863
I hate that depression dumping. They bitch and moan about life, you give a suggestion to improve it after listening and they'll straight up say 'no' kek then why are you talking to me? It's hard to drop these people because it feels like a shitty move but it's just joy-sucking. I don't really know people with PTSD like that though, a few people I know who have it told me what happened once and didn't really mention it again.

No. 1614139

>>1613911
had depression as a teen and was friends with another depressed girl, i tried taking about some things we could work on to get better and she got real mad and told me not to talk to her ever again cause i'm an idiot if i want to get better, so i didn't. She sent me a letter later saying she tried to kill herself and it was my fault, she's a fakeboy now and still as miserable as before

No. 1614410

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Autistic radfems >>>
I'm aware plenty of autistic women become furries or tifs but the ones that don't and are like this picrel are great.
>>1613519
Anon are you sure they're actually aspd or npd? The people you describe just sound like wild but normal people.

No. 1614424

>>1614410
As someone who has known a couple of male and female autists, I feel this picture. You could have interesting conversations with the women who had actually useful cultural special interests. Meanwhile on dude flipped out and stopped talking to me after i dissed scrotechan.

No. 1614426

>>1614424
Felt. I feel alive whenever I have hours-long paragraphs of conversation with autistic radfems

No. 1614431

>>1614410
As an autist I love this meme, it touched my heart lol. ily nona

No. 1614473

>>1614410
I don't want to defend male autists too much, but I've noticed there's a massive difference in offline vs online autists. The online autists are insufferable, chronically depressed and fall victim to extremist ideologies such as the alt right and/or troonism (often both at the same time). Offline autists are proper nerds, they'll sperg about their preferred topic but they don't have the unwarranted overconfidence from being online nor the selfishness of a depressed person because they spend the day doing their special interest which keeps them happy. There are bad ones there too, but they're usually about 100 times more likeable.

No. 1614510

>>1614473
Yeah, the only autist I knew irl was a very sweet almost non-verbal guy that was extremely into tennis

No. 1614549

>>1613863
Actual PTSD sufferers don't talk about their trauma all the time like that. Not trying to say people who do are all faking, but the people I know with PTSD mostly avoid having to talk or think about their trauma, to the point of using code words for certain events or names that they don't want to say out loud.
I think PTSD sufferers have this reputation for trauma dumping because those people are the most vocal about it, whereas with the silent majority you won't even know they have PTSD unless you're really close to them.

No. 1614587

>>1614549
Nta but thank you nonna, well said

No. 1614632

>>1614410
I hate when autistics pretend that autistics are knowledgeable about their special interest. Most autistics just memorize a ton of trivia because they're incapable of analytical thinking.

No. 1614974

Obvious answer but easily BPDs are the worst. They’re hardwired to be the most insufferable victim. They try and convince you that there’s positives to it, like that they can love sooo deeply and it’s so pure but their love is fake and conditional. Latching onto new people all the time and idolizing their good while ignoring their bad is the shallowest form of love. Love means nothing coming from a BPD.

I understand that they’re suffering from their own shallow existence too but they refuse to work on themselves. They think that because their sense of reality is flawed, it’s other peoples responsibility to coddle them. Have a fight? Get ready to experience days of overblown bullshit (that they’ll still bring up months later), push aside your feelings to validate theirs, and accept an apology of “I still don’t get why you were upset but I’m glad you understand me better now”.

I honestly don’t know if BPDs are capable of genuinely caring for another person. They seem entirely motivated by what other people can offer them (while pretending that they’re altruistic). Ones that go through therapy and claim to be self-aware just become more manipulative and outwardly selfish (“I’m protecting my peace”). I feel like any BPD that read this would just use it as fuel for their victim complex. Poor misunderstood narcissist.

No. 1614986

>>1614632
It really varies from person to person and it is very rare for an autist to be a savant or genius. but I have never met an autistic person who was incapable of analytical thinking. What a retarded thing to say

No. 1615056

Not really a fan of the mutation called the Y chromosome

No. 1615062

>>1614549
This is my experience too, down to the code words. I think it's mostly an online thing.

No. 1615065

>>1614549
jesus, that's been exactly my thoughts for idk how long. that's exactly what makes me actively avoid other people with similar issues and what's made me become basically resentful towards anyone who talks openly about whatever shit they've been through, or anyone who's just into those kind of questions or topics.

another thing that bothers me a lot is that ptsd has really made me into a shitty and gross person in seriously bad ways, but this seems very stigmatizing to admit. not to be dramatic but sometimes i wish there was euthanasia for ptsd so i could get it.

No. 1615074

>>1614549
>>1615065
God fucking dammit thank you.
I think that yes, it's mostly an online thing. When people trauma dump randomly either they're terminally online or cluster bs who want attention, actual ptsd sufferers don't want to recall the events and cannot say certain words, most of them are avoidant and very difficult to get close to. Some even suffer in pure silence or have this weird disconnection in between mind and body (like they would cry their eyes out but say that they're perfectly fine with a monotone voice, because ptsd fucks up with your brain and body). Panic and anxiety attacks, memory loss…this is the "true" ptsd and if there was some sort of lobotomy for that, I would get it because it isn't easy, as for my experience I wish I wasn't so fucking pessimistic and suspicious all the time. And yeah, I hate those attention seeking fucks too, because usually those who claim ptsd just want some compliments and coddling.

No. 1615075

>>1614974
BPDs are failed narcs and actual narcs are insufferables so bpd is like their retarded cousin but I think it's a over diagnosed in women and under diagnosed in men. "moody" women have the hormones excuse but what about moody men? "he's just like that" yea and? Men can be ill too lmao and BPD men are either autistic or troon level narcs.

No. 1615096

>>1615075
*autistic AND narcs. Never seen a bpd male that wasnt evil

No. 1615138

>>1615075
>I think it's a over diagnosed in women and under diagnosed in men
this is literally true lol

No. 1615148

>>1614974
The ones that become self-aware learn that they need to protect other people from themselves and vice versa. In my case, that has made boundary setting a high priority and that 100% comes off as being a dickhead. It's better than the alternative.

Honestly I wouldn't say gaining and growing self-awareness has made me more manipulative, it's made me better able to control it. BPD manipulation tactics are usually subconscious, but gaining self-awareness has allowed me to become aware of it happening and to stop a lot of it.

I've been working on recovery for a decade now and am high functioning, but I'll always be an asshole. Any BPD that thinks they'll ever be 100%, even 80%, "good" needs a reality check.

No. 1615221

There are (mainly) two kinds of posts ITT

>people armchairing people they don't like

>people with the disorders being talked about saying how they totally agree with what other anons are saying, OTHER people with the disorder are definitely like that, not me though I'm in treatment

No. 1615298

>>1615074
Thank you. Yes, it's mostly cluster bs who do that. I have a PTSD diagnosis and it's related to huge memory issues, and big issues with trusting people enough to confess that you've been through some shit. Lately I've dared to open up more so I can process things and also give people close to me an understanding of what is going on with me sometimes. But randomly dumping details? No.

No. 1615323

>>1615221
Yes.
That's the point of the thread.

And it's also useful to tell apart the actual disorder from the internet versions. Why are you mad? You a bippie?
Most of the times that people come here to vent often mistake a disorder because people on the internet like to claim it as a badge for pity points while all of them have a thing in common: attention seeking behaviour. And that behaviour is not found in the disorders most of them have but its always and always found in BPD. It's important to reclaim space and call people out. Why are you mad?

No. 1615401

>>1614986
Most savants literally just memorize trivia. Also you have probably only met fake autistics if you could confirm they were capable of analytical thinking. Most REAL autistics can't barely talk.

No. 1615448

>>1615323
It's just annoying

No. 1615703

>>1615221
What's the issue with armchairing? I hate BPD cause of experiences with diagnosed BPDs. If someone new I meet acts like a BPD then I'm not sticking around to confirm if they are.
Agreed on the second thing though.

No. 1615746

>>1615401
They also have a shitton of free time. Most autists are on benefits and read/look at the same shit over and over. I would look clever too if I spent my days memorizing every marine life book I can find laying around

No. 1615903

>>1615703
That's totally fair, my take is just that you can dislike someone and avoid them for whatever reason without saying for sure they have x disorder. People can be assholes just because, and it looks a bit silly to so confidently declare something about someone when you can't confirm it, like when anons diagnose cows. Armchair posts muddy the thread in the same way online malingerers muddy the diagnosis they claim but that's just my opinion

To be more on-topic I'm having a hard time being sympathetic towards my bipolar friend. I had never met someone with it before so initially it was jarring to see her go from her extremes. I'd be helping her with errands and such during what I know understand to be her mania any time I could (I was having fun at first as a lot of her projects were related to building stuff) then I'd go over and all of a sudden she's sobbing and can't hold it together but still trying to finish everything she needs to do (her life circumstances don't allow her the choice to not do so), and I feel helpless because what can I do other than listen? I can't really give advice as I'm much younger than her and don't have any life experience. I feel selfish for putting some distance between us but both of it has gotten very tiring, the mania was draining me physically and the depression was draining emotionally, just very hard to watch and not be sure how to help. More selfishly since she's so much older than me it's depressing to see since I worry that's my future (not bipolar, just depressed, but still).

No. 1615908

Schizophrenia

No. 1616015

>>1615401
Even if we buy into the idea that only obvious autists are autistic they aren’t majority nonverbal and yes they’re still capable of analytical thinking. I think you’re confused about what analytical thinking even is and mixing it up with maybe social intelligence or you’re like actually a fucking retard and/or baiting.

No. 1616307

Any mentally ill person, at all, at this point. But especially delusional people. I loathe delusional people. They think they know everything when they don't even know themselves. They have such a high opinion of their own made up life that they think they have the right to impose their shit beliefs onto other people. It's pathetic.

No. 1617220

Anyone older than 25 with an ED. Honestly no more sympathy. If they're younger, maybe a little. If they're a child or teenager, most likely groomed some way or another.

No. 1618189

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We don’t diagnose men with BPD enough. And I don’t mean that in a “boo hoo, nobody cares about men’s mental health” kind of way. We need to lock up these men in some sort of high security prison cell as a preventative measure and throw away the key. Imagine a typical female BPDemon with the aggression, entitlement, heightened sex drive and physical strength of a man - I can’t imagine a world in which a man with BPD WON’T become an abuser. They’re the particularly insidious kind too. They lure women into their trap by pretending to be sensitive tortured artist types. Ezra Miller, Alexis Marshall, and Marilyn Manson are perfect examples of what happens when you’ve got men with obvious untreated BPD running amok. They have an advantage over BPD women, who are usually dismissed as crazy from the start, so it’s easier for them to rise to positions of power through manipulating everyone around them, and then abusing abusing that power.

No. 1618193

>>1617220
After the age of 25 it usually warps into some sort of Gwyneth Paltrow-esque superfood obsession. Honestly I find ortho types even more insufferable than anachans because at least anachans don’t try to convince themselves that they’re healthy

No. 1618211

>>1618189
I'm sorry but that pic seems like troon twitter pic you just posted.

No. 1618381

>>1618189
Men with BPD are easily the most insidious people alive, and they will put literally all of their brainpower into the microcosms they try to create in order to control people. They also become violently obsessive in a unique way compared to bpd women, it gives me the creeps.

No. 1618667

>>1618189
I usually avoid this thread because most of anons here are unhigned and have issues themselves but we really do need to talk about borderline moids more. Especially in normie spaces BPD is associated with pretty much exclusively women so most of people don't even entertain the idea of a male who exhibits BPD traits actually being BPD.
ALL mentally ill men are dangerous idc, even the most deranged women out there are still safer to be around than borderline moids or hell even. Even autistic or ADHD moids are unhinged but I digress. You're right on with your description. All the borderline scrotes I had the misfortune of meeting had this artsy soft boy persona and kept talking about lonely and misunderstood they were. I think the genuinely introverted, shy ones are the worst biggest they seem the most unassuming and non-threatening to normie women.
>>1618381
This too.

No. 1618668

>>1618189
I usually avoid this thread because most of anons here are unhigned and have issues themselves but we really do need to talk about borderline moids more. Especially in normie spaces BPD is associated with pretty much exclusively women so most of people don't even entertain the idea of a male who exhibits BPD traits actually being BPD.
ALL mentally ill men are dangerous idc, even the most deranged women out there are still safer to be around than borderline moids or hell even. Even autistic or ADHD moids are unhinged but I digress. You're right on with your description. All the borderline scrotes I had the misfortune of meeting had this artsy soft boy persona and kept talking about lonely and misunderstood they were. I think the genuinely introverted, shy ones are the worst biggest they seem the most unassuming and non-threatening to normie women.
>>1618381
This too.

No. 1618675

>>1615903
I can definitely relate to your problems with your bipolar friend. My best friend is bipolar and I love her a lot but it's difficult to deal with her sometimes. There's always some intense drama going on in her life and I struggle to keep up. One day she'll be super optimistic about her relationship and fun plans she has, and then a couple days later it's completely switched or she's paranoid and has negative interpretations about every seemingly innocuous thing someone said to her. It's hard to keep up and figure out what's actually going on. Since I'm a pretty emotionally stable person with a stable life, things end up being about her a lot of the time and dealing with her emotions. She's really sweet and doesn't purposefully put all attention on herself or anything, she makes an effort to ask about me as well, but by the nature of how she is things just turn out that way.

No. 1619647

>>1615903
I have bipolar disorder and honestly one of the worst things about this disorder is how emotionally exhausting it is and tolling. Your patience is appreciated but it's definitely understanding of needing space and time.. It's not easy at all. You can also express this to her too and if she doesn't understand, she might not want to get better.

No. 1623046

Every attention seeking disorder but mostly these fuckers.
"uwu I do not want to encourage binge and this is triggering for you uwu!!"
edits a video with cute music and cute fonts of her being absolutely disgusting with food and eating like a kid that's home alone

No. 1623049

>>1623046
>What's your favorite binge food? Tell me in the comments
Lmao

No. 1623074

>>1623046
It's hard for me to sympathize with people who have eating disorders because often I feel like they enjoy encouraging others with the same condition as them and they also induce eating disorders in other people. I don't think they do it for attention or anything, but I just don't really feel much for anorexics or bulimics.

No. 1629116

I cant deal handle people with agoraphobia and misophonia. Fear of people, being outside, and noises? Sounds cursed but I also don’t really have sympathy, don’t interact with me, don’t try to include me in your life, I don’t want to walk on eggshells for fear of your meltdown, I don’t care if the sound of me turning on a fan on a summer day triggers you! They need to get help and they never do. Don’t ask me to change my normal behaviors or sit inside all day because you want company, if you want company you have to go outside with me! It’s so hard to have a relationship with them they are so stubborn and constantly 2 seconds away from spiraling and their coping mechanisms are shit and self destructive (self isolating, substance abuse, etc)

No. 1629177

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>>1629116
>get help
Picrel but it’s me trying to get doctors to give me benzos I literally need because my panic disorder/agoraphobia is so bad it could eventually give me heart disease (low blood pressure and 110+ bpm is normal for me, my blood work is perfect and they’ve done chest X-rays and ekgs and I’m not fat, all is clear, I’m just fucking STRESSED).(no1currs)

No. 1629197

>>1629116
fair, but also stay the fuck out of my life if you insist on eating like an animal and chewing with your mouth open around me.
those are the most common triggers, no one is out there triggered by a fan.

also i tried getting help but it's straight up not available. plenty of shrinks don't even believe it's real and the ones that do can't do anything about it.

No. 1629201

>>1623074
I think a lot of them have some fucked up way of denial they're going through something unhealthy. Like, "Well, if everyone else is doing it, it's not that bad for me!" And they encourage it to try to normalize it even more in their minds.

No. 1629279

>>1629197
The fan thing was a real-life example sadly, it’s not made up.

No. 1629281

>>1629279
Ugh NTA but I’m the squidward anon trying to get benzos from the magic conch. I’m blessed to not have misophonia. The only thing I can think that would upset me would be someone shaking their leg incessantly (makes me nervous) or not having a fan on (stagnant air makes me feel like I’m suffocating). If someone got triggered by fan noises I would never be able to be around them period.
>t. Currently sitting with three fans pointed at me from diff directions

No. 1629919

>>1623046
Meh I’ve done stuff like that before when I used to have a shitty diet but I wouldn’t eat food if it was soggy. Maybe she wants sympathy but if she has enough energy to film and edit a cute video she could also unlist it and private it if she’s really concerned.

No. 1632517

All of them in men, and rarely any of them in women. I'll befriend a raging narcissistic woman any day over the slightest depressed moid. No matter how bad or fucked up the woman may be, I'll delude myself into reasoning that because she's female, she'll still have some level of reasoning and empathy. Men and the Y chromosome are a recipe for disaster no matter what.

No. 1632518

Samefag but depressed moids are actual hell to deal with. I know depression is a run of the mill disorder and it's generally self-diagnosable when you notice you're getting sloppy or irritable or have no energy etc, but why are depressed moids so manipulative?
They'll say edgy suicidal things to you for attention but if you try and offer genuine support tips, they always excuse it with "it's too hard and I'm tired" and then leech off your empathy for them. They'll say shit like "name me a reason to live" and you'll exhaust yourself to death wasting your sympathy on their feelings, then they say they have feelings for you because you "showed them love during a difficult time" or some pathetic shit.
The only mental disorder really is male behaviour.

No. 1632582

>>1632518
That's not depression, that's BPD and it's very under diagnosed in men.
If a male becomes an emotional leech then randomly says he's interested in you, it's BPD. They play the poor depressed angel act to lure you in to believe they're actually sensitive souls and then make your life a living hell by emotional blackmailing you. Textbook BPD.

No. 1632590

>>1632518
God I know someone like this. Constantly bitching and moaning about how he has no social life even though I'm sitting right fucking there, his life has no meaning, the world is going to hell and whatever else. When I give him a suggestion on what to do about it or how to be happier he basically says it's too much effort and he'd rather stay in his little pool of whining and misery. Don't occupy my free time then stupid bitchall, go cry on someone else's shoulder. Yes I'm trying to ghost him kek

No. 1632591

>>1632582
It's not heavy enough for BPD imo because it doesn't seem to encapsulate any of the other traits. I actually theorise depression, if untreated enough, can turn bpdish though.
Also, it's probably been mentioned somewhere already, but cutters. I get the thrill of self-harm or whatever but if you're older then 25 and still do it, it seems to be a pinpoint for low emotional regulation skills because every cutter has been that specific category of mentally ill. I knew a woman who was 37 and cut while having two kids with her alcoholic husband. Sad all around.

No. 1632595

>>1632590
Literally. They'll push away all the friends who actually care about them and then cry that everyone leaves them. Newsflash, if everyone leaves you, it's probably you. If you're a woman, maybe it's not intentional coming from your part, but either way it's still something you need to take responsibility for.
Even if you turn all pick-me for this type of scrote, he'll probably be like "you're just talking to me out of pity" or "we probably won't even be talking tomorrow"
Another observation is that this type of moid tends to be a porn addict to fulfil that lonely sad pity hole he has in his chest and if they're not whining about how sad and pathetic they are, they'll be trying to hit on you or make it awkwardly sexual because men are just emotional retards.

No. 1632612

>>1632518
>>1632595
"Name me a reason to live"
"Think of all the underage anal rape porn you have not yet watched!"

No. 1632776

>>1632595
Ayrt, the porn/sex part is so true. Mine whines about not being able to get a girlfriend but he straight up asked every young woman out at his fucking WORK. I told him 'if you do that they will think you're just looking for sex' and he said 'yeah others have told me so but I don't see it that way, I just want to be with someone'. Like holy shit do you hear yourself, you're too self-involved to get a girlfriend if you keep going like this.

No. 1637083

Rather a confession than a rant. Even though I'm on the spectrum I really don't like other autists. They're always either creepy dudes or adhd people who fake it because apparently is quirkier to have both. A whole lot of young women who are like that are genderspecial TIFs as well. I find it specially funny when they pretend they have "autistic habits" that are only present in children and in low functioning autists. Sure, sunny snowflake sparkly sparkle, you surely have the habit of beating your head and walking on your tip toes as a high functioning adult person. Fuck off.
I had an episode where another autistic girl found out I'm one as well and we tried being friends. Ended up with me having to tell her in front of other people that I can't stand her because she's a delusional mythomaniac. I felt bad at the time but looking back at it I should've been even harsher.

Sorry for the blogpost btw, I just think this thread fits it the most.

No. 1637757

Tards and autists. Especially males. We introduced two severely autistic males in our workspace due to some inclusivity bullshit program, my coworkers joked about how autists hyperfixate on shit so we could just tell them to do stuff and they will because they’re even a bit retarded so why not making them our slaves right ahah? It turns out that since the autists came, the workplace became really chaotic and everyone is sick of them but we cannot do shit. One day, one of them had a meltdown because we didn’t full respect our program (we took a break to celebrate a birthday) and his argument was about “respecting rules” and “those are things that you do at home, it’s called WORKplace so you’re supposed to WORK!”. This spiraled down in him calling our fucking boss who was okay with us having a cupcake so even the boss had scold him. We feel like we went back to elementary schools with these childish snitches like wtf. We always open they come in late or fuck up so bad that they get fired. We should really redefine the concept of “disabled workers” because I wouldn’t mind at all for example a guy in a wheelchair, with hearing aids, with some limb or facial deformation as long he is a normal person, tards and autists put you in a position where you have to babysit them and get frustrated because their limited understanding of things makes everyone frustrated. They already have our taxpayer money, leave them at home or in facilities where they can sperg and tard all day without disrupting workplace where some concentration is required

No. 1637758

My mom has bipolar 1 and knowing that now as an adult makes so much more sense. I was so anxious and distrustful of her as a kid because of her high energy and mania which meant that we had to fit into whatever she'd come up with or get punished.

No. 1637771

>>1637083
As a fellow autist I’m with you, I find 99 per cent of others on the spectrum insufferable. Mainly because I’ve spent my entire life perfecting my mask so I don’t attract attention to myself and I can’t understand why other spergs don’t do the same; the ‘tism isn’t a free pass to behave like a twat with impunity. I’ve never met anyone with BPD and I hope it stays that way because I already know I would have zero tolerance for that nonsense and the mask would come off immediately

No. 1637772

>>1637757
I mean being a moid is a mental illness in and of itself, so there’s that too

No. 1637774

I know maybe a handful autists IRL and they are pretty ok, even the low functioning one, he is pretty chill.
But I can't stand autists online. They act like the most obnoxious cunts in the world. It's like they think that neurotypicals conspire against them all the time and people need to bend backwards to meet their ridiculous needs.
Maybe they are fine people IRL and just vent about stuff that they can say only on anonymous platforms. But reading r/autism made me fucking annoyed. They are so self-absorbed and pretensions. Shit, if you post about "normies" being stupid and how you think that your autismo makes you better than everyone, but people can't see it and so you are some sort of misunderstood genius, a modern-day day Byronic hero… Maybe, just maybe, no one likes you because of that sort of attitude, you dense cunt.

No. 1638137

>>1637774
Kek I ended up on that sub a few years ago, r/autisminwomen is so much better though. Less ridiculous, I remember on the general sub it was a bunch of 30 year olds with plush collections who would play the same song for 2 fucking hours because 'repetition is soothing'. Like holy hell I'm an autist too but it was more like scrolling through a down's syndrome sub, I think many were exaggerating but still. I don't go to reddit anymore but autisminwomen helped me at the time, probably because it is only for women kek. Surprisingly not any troons as far as I remember.

No. 1645446

hysteric doomerism

No. 1646958

Can autistic men not fucking deal with normal life stress? They shut down, get angry their problems can't all be solved by everybody else in an instant, then get angry at you for being nervous of their anger.

Then the fucking noisy stimming or just doing stupid shit like whistling super loud and high pitched for no reason or threatening to call the police on neighbors just for walking around outside talking on the phone. Sensitive to noise but constant makes loud noises. I can hardly take this shit anymore. It's like the energy is being sucked out of me while I'm being blamed for everything under the sun.

No. 1646963

>>1646958
Theyre used to mommy doing everything for them, they're incapable of controlling themselves

No. 1647014

People with that specific type of anxiety that turns them into controlling bullies. Like … I get it, it feels really really bad sometimes, but please figure out some way of handling it before it turns you into a scary, snappy rage person who blows up over tiny shit. Everyone ends up walking on eggshells. When this type of person feels anxious, they get to treat everyone around them disrespectfully, as though others don't feel terrible getting snapped at. Again, not all people with anxiety, just the type whose go-to reaction to the uncomfortable feelings is lashing out. I can hang with those who get quiet, become avoidant, act kinda weird, or are capable of asking others for what they need. More than willing to cater to an anxious person's needs when they're polite and upfront about what those needs are.

No. 1647066

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>>1647014
A former coworker was like this and I let them bully me out of the workplace. I absolutely cannot deal with people like this because my dad would have anger outbursts when I was younger.

No. 1647232

>>1647066
Same nonnie, it wasn't my boss but the customers at a store. People who would scream at me because a piece of wood would be 50 ct more expensive than it said on the sign or something, half the time they weren't poor either (specific accent from a nearby town, filled to the brim with rich people).

No. 1647296

>>1647014
Fucking hell, you just described my entire family. They're nice, caring, perfectly lovely people until something makes them anxious, at which point it's all raised voices and catastrophizing. I spent my teenage years pretty much avoiding my parents because talking to them felt like walking through a minefield. It's not that their concerns were invalid, they just had the worst fucking overreactions and felt like they had to be in control of everything for it to go right.

I also hate male autists and ADHDers specifically. Female ones are usually nice, if rather eccentric and sometimes complicated socially, but the male ones are almost always complete assholes who shrug off heinous things like cheating, pedophilic tendencies, and addictions because of 'muh disorder'. And also whatever thing makes people so sensitive that they take the least charitable interpretation of neutral comments by default and cannot take any criticism or even mild ribbing without having a meltdown about 'disrespect' while simultaneously being woe-is-me shrinking violets who expect to be approached in public when all they do is sit around and pout.

No. 1647326

>>1647014
I have stopped hanging out with people with anxiety. its so draining because you have to plan everything because they can't do any planning themselves cause it makes them anxious, if you ask them what they want to do you have to constantly assure them that you wont get mad and even after that they still only response with "it doesn't matter to me".they are projecting. im not gonna get mad over something as trivial as us not agreeing on what to do but anxious people seethe so hard if you dare to suggest something they dislike. Except they are not gonna tell you that they dislike the idea, they are just gonna act passive aggressive.
After all the planning they still end up getting mad at you because at some point you overstepped a boundary that they didn't tell you about. If they didn't wanna hang out in the first place why the fuck did they agree to come then? I dont get how people with anxiety always manages to have huge friend groups.
Like, they always whine about how they hate conversation and social interactions and other people yet they always cling themselves to huge friend groups because their emo larp is a fucking cope. They don't even stop their fucking larp when hanging out with others stfu about how much you hate us while you are hanging out with us. Just fucking go home if you feel miserable.
Also they always start the stupidest drama.
>someone breathes at anxious person in the wrong way
>anxious person makes a huge deal out of it
>refuses to talk to the Wrongdoer in private instead she talks to everyone else in the group and creates a rift
>everyone confronts Wrongdoer who, naturally is confused over the hostility and says it was a misunderstanding
The Anxious person starts to cry
>"omg it didn't feel like a misunderstanding how dare you dismiss my feelings"
>now everyone drops whatever they are doing to comfort Anxious person
>"omg we are sorry for dismissing your feelings Anxious person! we shouldve known better! next time you get unjustifiably mad at on of us then tell us directly so we immediately can apologize and confirm how much of a victim you are"
and then it ends with Wrongdoer as the bad guy who has to make up for causing Anxious person's meltdown because a simple apology wont do. If you dare to tell Anxious person that she should have more faith in our friendship and not jump to conclusion and assume we hate her then you're met with "omg anon be more sensitive she has anxiety she cant help being a drama lama".
Normally both parties can apologize when a misunderstanding happens and the other people in the group can be honest about the mistakes, but as soon as an anxious person gets involved in drama you have to act like they are a victim and did nothing wrong.
If they miscommunicate something to you then its no big deal but if you miscommunicate to them then you are literal Satan

No. 1647716

>>1647326
The way you describe it is very similar to things I've seen some of my friends do or say. I also wish I could drop them all and hang out with normies sometimes because it would be less stressful.

No. 1647832

>>1647326
>>1647716
This just sounds like an asshole using anxiety as an excuse to control everyone around them

No. 1648169

i know it's been said before but bpd is the worst. absolutely fucking hate them. their manic behavior, their lack of a personality, how they leech off of other people and turn the other person into their new personality, etc. i had a friend like that (she blocked me for hating men and especially trannies) and i'm currently watching life plus cindy on and off. everything about them screams erratic 13 year old teenage girl stuck in the body of a 30 to 40 year old woman. cringe.

No. 1648171

People with eating disorders.
Don't care. Quit body checking, uninvite yourself to a dinner if you are going to complain about the food there.

No. 1648172

>>1648171
i especially hate how obsessed they are with being tiny, young and girly. like just the other day i saw a post that was like "doing yoga and pilates is literally so girly and burns so many calories" bitch what the fuck does that even mean.

No. 1648200

>>1648172
How is yoga girly kek, does it even burn calories? I feel sort of bad for anachans but I probably wouldn't if I knew one in real life. I've seen some of those 'ed tw what I eat' videos and the girl was complaining about her friend taking her to the beach because 'she's skinnier!'. She's doing something nice to cheer up your miserable life, least you could do is not bitch to the internet about it.

No. 1648284

>>1648200
kek i get what you mean, i also read a post that was like "my friends always go out to eat together and i always get a tea and nothing else, but the other day they picked me up to hang out together and it turns out they already ate together!! of course i would have only ordered a tea again, but still!!!" they are all so self obsessed and childish.

No. 1648326

>>1648172
They think yoga and pilates is girly because it's looked down upon by gymbros who think it's for weak women.

No. 1648553

I'm tired of people with ADHD who constantly use it as a crutch especially in relationships. It's always they leave you smack on seen or never remember a damn thing about you. I understand love involves not needing this 24/7 but the ones that use it as an excuse are so irritating. "It's an explanation not an excuse" doesn't change the fact that it causes potential issues within relationships, so either work on it or apologise at least, or don't get into a relationship. Just because your brain is wired like that inherently doesn't mean you can't work on it somehow; why would you want to live your life disordered? Saying this as a person with ADHD myself gets the entire crowd screeching "internally ableist", whatever that's supposed to mean nowadays.

No. 1649894

Munchies. I don't think it even needs an explanation but god, even if you get the diagnosis you want what will you do? Do you think it will make you happy? Tbh I find the ones who just fake it for welfare or something not nearly as grating as the attention-seekers, free money I sort of understand (still heinous though) but faking severe disorders for some extra attention? That's some angsty 13 yr old bullshit. Got to be the uwu sickest of them all, disgusting.

No. 1649935

1 autists
2 eating disordered people

No. 1649937

Whichever one makes someone a ‘mad dictator’ essentially. Exposed nerve level sensitivity, paranoid, sees the worst in others, assumes everyone is talking about them behind their back, constantly needs an enemy or a scapegoat. Can’t handle being treated the same way they treat others. Then after people get sick of this it’s ‘why is everyone so mean to me’ I don’t care if you’re mentally ill or twaumatiseduwu nobody has the patience for this.

No. 1649956

>>1648169
it really fucking is. they're the loudest, shallowest, most hysterical and scariest. these bitches would "steal" your personality traits, cheat, and victimize themselves. they get violent and threaten to cut or kill themselves if you don't do what their deluded mind asks them from you, then seek pity from friends and talk shit about you. they are massive leeches both mentally and financially if you live with one, they never uplift anyone after the initial stages where they get a crush on and fucking obsess over you and copy everything you do. fucking psychotic behavior. dangerous because at first it seems like a lonely person wanting friends and finally finding someone alike. after some time you can tell these types of people from normies. the ever depressed aura, moping and blaming, sudden extreme changes in appearances, lack of stability in life or incapability of independence, often proudly drug abuse, or use hypersexuality and faking disorders as a way to get attention and keep seeking new victims to suck dry.

No. 1649958

>>1649935
and a midget walk into a bar

No. 1650044

>>1649937
Can't stand these types of people. Constantly wallowing in self pity while being rude or even vicious towards others, and when you dare to suggest they might think bad of everyone because they're not being nice themselves they go ballistic.

No. 1650850

>>1649937
My father is like that and my mother's only reaction to it is "oh well he has always been like that, just move on." This is the same guy who would threaten to beat us up or would actually do it when I was younger if we took more than 1 shower per week because "muh water bills!! muh money!!" and he prevented me from brushing my teeth until I started high school for the same reason. He would threaten my mother if she served my sisters' and I food before him even though he was already obese and I would often have hypoglicemia and needed to eat more food and more often because of hormonal issues. He would beat me up if I was breathing too loudly in the living room because "MUH TELEVISION!!1! i can't hear what they're saying!!!" He's super violent and I wish someday he'll try the same shit with some guy who will beat him to death. Everyone on his side of the family is mentally ill in a different way, it's almost fascinating. But I wish I knew the word for what you described specifically because it applies to him.

No. 1654086

I feel so terrible for his mother. She looks so tired. Poor kid too, I hope he manages to overcome his disorder, but watching this only reminds me why I don’t want to parent.

No. 1654959

>>1654086
"He has a disorder Who makes him disobey!!!"
Nah fam he's just insufferable, chronically online and neglected by his mother. Just listen to how he talks, about ai and "not sponsored!!" content. He's being raised by men on the internet, if you don't understand rules you're either severely autistic or a prick. He's gonna grow up so fucking entitled, I can see it. Take away his tablet and see if he's still "disordered".

No. 1656001

>>1654959
Though his behavior is annoying it’s impossible to just pass this off as a bad kid. He was born addicted to drugs and the woman who raises him is not his bio mom.

No. 1656008

>>1654086
Call me bigoted but I think ODD is extremely fake and it's a disservice to a child to say their emotional outbursts are a mental disorder. That's just being a child. It's annoying but its not a disorder that requires treatment, it requires parenting.

No. 1656010

>>1656008
ODD is usually just a placeholder for shirking the blame off bad parenting

>prepubescent kid has abusive childhood

>shit parents
>diagnosed "odd"
>diagnosed "depressed" or some shit
>forced on meds
>kids brain is fried
>therapists claim kid is fixed by meds
>then gaslight kid for having bad parents like it's their fault
>kid grows up to have multiple mental disorders and usually be dysfunctional adult

No. 1656016

>>1654959
You're very basic if you seriously believe a tablet is causing such behavior

No. 1656022

honestly, male retards. ik it's not unpopular here, but i mean also the non-violent ones who harass people with unwanted conversation in public. i can't recall a single mentally challenged woman who attempted to hijack my time in the past 10+ years, so it's possible to keep them in line. it's always the male tards who force pointless chats and talk at you on buses and shit, and you can't ask them to gtfo because it's rude. it's possible to teach them that many people don't find pleasure in interacting with strangers. also just letting them roam free harassing randos seems kinda abusive to them. we have a kid here who is maybe 15 or 16 who is probably also an autist because he is obsessed with buses and specifically the route i take, and he seems to be out by himself 24/7. the drivers know him and entertain him, but others don't, so when the driver is on break and this kid gets into the driver's seat or when he's shouting random bull from the back of the bus, how are his parents not worried that he can just get smacked in the face one day?

No. 1656029

Anything when it's co-morbid with maleness. Mentally ill moids should just be culled.

No. 1656035

>>1656010
damn way to call me out like that

No. 1656040

>>1654959
it looks like he and his mom have a pretty good relationship honestly

No. 1656048

>>1656022
Holy shit you're right. I've been harassed by the intellectually disabled so many times that I just hate them on sight now, but it's only been men. I have never once had a intellectually disabled woman touch me or force conversation on me. It's only men.

No. 1656055

>>1648171
My step sister in law got in a screaming fight with a chef at Disney world because he couldn't tell her the exact number of calories in her dish, he could only give her an estimate. She wanted him to weigh each ingredient before cooking it so she knew down to the exact amount how many calories were in it.

No. 1656155


No. 1656243

>>1656022
>and this kid gets into the driver's seat
pardonfuck? retard teen or not that's hijacking a bus. he's lucky no one's called the cops or tried to be amateur tard wrangler yet

No. 1656300

>>1656243
that one time somebody did try to step in, but soon realized the guy is just a docile neighbourhood tard and the driver, who by the way was not even on the bus at that point, was in on it. he has done this several other times with the driver taking a break right beside him, but regardless that's a lawsuit waiting to happen imo. he's not a 2 year old and could easily actually try to drive and injure someone

No. 1656426

>>1656016
Unsupervised internet access, especially with how accessible and trendy political shit is on all the apps, yeah, it can turn a child stupid. he's not using the tablet to play, he's using the tablet to use ai shit that's probably being fed with a lot of fucked up things. I'm sure as hell his mom didn't taught him what "sponsored content" is.
The internet right now is not our internet anymore, kids have no concept of privacy or parasocial relationships, they just hear an opinion and go "yep, that's reasonable."
You're the basic one if you think that that is not a bad influence on his already existing disorder.

No. 1661108

I don’t know who needs to hear this but, as someone who recently got out from a relationship with a BPD moid: You can’t fix him. You can’t fix them. Drop straight away your BPD partner, because male BPD is going to ruin you, it’s like filling a bucket with a hole with your blood.
In particular, these happened:
>Never happy, nothing made him happy nor satisfied and when he happened to smile, it was for some trivial shit that he couldn’t take into account and it’s not depression, it looks like a forced bias against happiness
>Fake empathy. They use fake empathy to get stuff, wether it being goods, money, attention, support but cannot give it back because they don’t know what being “an empath” means
>The “strong feelings” thing is bullshit. Them saying that they love deeply is a massive cope to make up for their long periods of rage and sadness, they use it as an excuse.
>Their “love” is conditional. They love people only if they make something for them/are always available/if they can fix them and they try to gaslight you into bullshit like “but friends/lovers are supposed to be there for each other!” But when it’s your turn to get some support, they randomly have the big sads or big rage or “cannot deal with that”.
>Be prepared for cheating and massive jealousy at the same time. They cheat because they make up fake scenarios where you don’t “deserve” their poor concept of love so they go around and cheat and then make it about you, it’s your fault. And I got an STD for that.
>In particular for BPD and this is terrible: they just are like that. They often say BPD is made from trauma but a moid can have a perfect family, a perfect childhood and then decide to become a piece of shit. Most BPD men have no trauma, they’re faulty in the brain at birth.
>Therapy cannot fix them. Fixing them would mean doing a total reset of the brain and no one really heals from BPD, in the case of BPD men they’re also entitled to some degree and they resist therapy because they’re aware that being like that gets them attention, positive or negative (it can go from the partner being totally obsessed with him to them checking constantly if he killed himself…A lot of my worst days in my life can be traced when my partner would threaten me with suicide)
>They don’t have a personality and that’s the whole point lol. They are fake. They will wear the perfect mask, lure you in with that and then make you feel bad if you leave them because they need attention. Only attention.
>They are control freaks and want to constantly “punish” people. In particular, my partner would start shit at night and wake me up only to argue and the excuse was “I had a bad dream and now I’m angry.”

Leave them alone. They don’t deserve anybody. They’re not even aware of what they’re doing.

No. 1664228

>>1661108
this nona, and they lie and lie and lie and then blame you for catching them out. the BPD moid I dated always freaked out and "turned his phone off" to punish me when he couldn't gaslight or manipulate me kek. he would also throw up when I went outside or had any friends other than him, that's not a life I could ever put up with. I told him he needed to get professional help and he just said he was going to read Marcus Aurelius books instead kekek, there's no reasoning with them they're literally blackholes and don't want to be better or happy

No. 1667950

People that make a big deal out of not being able to eat, smell, or be around a certain food because they had a "bad experience" with it. What a charmed fucking life where puking once after eating peanut butter traumatized you so thoroughly. Fragile as a faberge egg
Also people afraid of throwing up are fucking babies. Oh my god I might puke I'm so scared I'm gonna piss my pants wahh. Grow the fuck up

No. 1668051

>>1664228
>I told him he needed to get professional help and he just said he was going to read Marcus Aurelius books instead

Most normal BPD moid, topkek

No. 1669753

Whatever shit that creates the edgetards that pop out here. I swear it's not bait/infight/etc, i really think if you write walls of text allogging how you are all for mass murder and forced sterilization because of some frivolous shit like picky eaters being annoying, etc, you are deranged and psychotic yourself.

No. 1672727

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Nonas, I generally only have empathy and give more leeway to mentally ill women in my life but ever since dating a BPDchan and discarded after being lovedbombed to death, I find it difficult to have any sympathy towards untreated BPD women. The timeline and horrifying shit I've endured throughout our relationship:

>broke up with her gf to go after me (yes i know huge red flag I was daft af)

>expresses her lack of empathy towards other people
>badmouths all of her friends and my close friends
>picks fights with me over random accusations, dumbfounded AF
>realises she has BPD, reads her the symptoms and encourage her to seek help
>lovebombed and idealised me obssesively within weeks/a month
>got intimate and sexual within one date
>alcoholic
>made jokes out of my sexual trauma
>into incest
>drunkenly tells me she can't be loyal to one woman and likes to fool around
>confront her about what I expect in a relationship (loyalty, monogamy) and if she can't accept that we should part ways
>tells me that she wants to be committed to me
>we go on trip overseas and visited a club
>i felt uneasy af and she fools around with the sex workers there and asks me to join in
>told her i'm against all of that and set my boundaries about it
>idealises and then devalues me within hours
>everything is fine and lovey dovey for a few weeks
>lovebombs and expresses wanting to be my gf before her solo trip
>argued with her over text bc she wasn't replying for hours
>discards and blocks me everywhere except one platform
>met up with her on her birthday and she shows zero remorse or any empathy towards me for her behaviour as i confronted her

I'm sorry but this whole experience has left me traumatised and with trust issues. I'll never go near an untreated BPD woman again for love or friendship. They are such MINDFUCKS

No. 1672938

>>1669753
It's what happens when you're a middle class oversocialized shut in. The number of confessed NEETs on here blows my mind.

No. 1673622

ADHD. They interrupt and talk over you constantly, leave a mess everywhere they go, destroy other people's property, are late for everything, when something is important to them they never forget it, but if it's something important to you, it's "oops, I forgot! Muh ADHD bad memory tee hee", they simply don't value other people's time and play the victim when its called out.
Basically a raging hurricane of self-interested destruction with ZERO conscientiousness but for some reason it's one of the least criticized mental disorders. (See: this thread) They manage to escape all accountability because of it and nobody ever has the wherewithal to call them out. Like can we just acknowledge that these people have no business in the adult world, let alone being given methamphetamines on the government dime so they can talk over you even faster? Being around their manic energy is so draining. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people with bad credit scores are ADHD, and I also think some people, especially males, use it as a diversionary tactic to conceal their narcissism. It's like the perfect disguise for disregarding other people and the RSD is just fucking narc rage, simple as.
A lot of the women are just as bad though. "OMG I totally forgot we were supposed to hang out today!!!! I'm so le quirky!" Bitch, fuck you, you're on your phone 13 hours a day so I know you saw my confirmation text.

No. 1674547

>>1673622
You're taking words out of my mouth nonny. Fr I texted one of those ADHD people on their birthday over the weekend, with the intention of giving them their present. I went to a yarn fair in April, I chose their favorite color as a yarn to crochet socks, which is not as easy as I had to redo one sock from the heel, and it still doesn't look 100% perfect. I asked them if they're home on their birthday so I can just bring the birthday gift. The literal text message I got back was:
"I’d rather nobody came by at the moment"
The person could have just gotten to the door, just taken the present, said thanks, that'll have been enough. Nope.

So now I'm hesitant to give that present ever, I might frog the whole yarn and make another project for myself instead cuz fuck em.

No. 1675982

I cannot stand people with extreme social anxiety. If you cannot order for yourself at a restaurant, or call to book at a place or whatever, it's pathetic, especially when you're over 23. Jesus Christ.

No. 1694287

I hate how people with personality disorders cope. "I am more than my BPD! I am more than my OCD!"
Bitch what part of "personality" isnt clear? Your personality is your disorder. You are totally influenced by it and sane people don't want to deal with that. Go to therapy, learn new how to live without making everything about your problems and fuck off.

No. 1694300

>>1675982
I don't have anxiety but I'm mute and can't do those things because my vocal cords are fucked up and I literally cannot talk

No. 1694304


No. 1694307

>>1694300
I think anon was talking about people who are physically healthy enough to talk but can't because of mental issues, so she's not talking about you.

No. 1694322

>>1675982
Absolutely this. My friend and I both stutter and he's got social anxiety over it to the point where he doesn't talk to people because idk they're judging or whatever? Like who cares that you stumbled your words in front of the barista, most folks don't notice and those that do move on quick if you handle it with grace or humor.

No. 1694361

>>1694287
ocd isnt a personality disorder nona.

No. 1694431

>>1694361
It's cluster C, anxious cluster, it is.

No. 1694438

Can't be said enough but fucking bpdfags. They think the world revolves around them, have a mental breakdown when someone looks at them wrong and expect you to listen to it and say 'yeah you're totally right' or you're not a real friend according to them. Never expect an apology because you just get an excuse at best. Untreated ones are the worst, they use it as an excuse for everything but refuse to seek help and play the victim instead.

No. 1694457

>>1694431
You're mixing up obsessive-compulsive personality disorder with OCD. They're two different things

No. 1694816

Hoarding, bunch of narcissistic assholes that give 0 craps how their trash affects their family. A lot of hoarders get aggressive and can't even maintain basic higiene, I truly despise them.

No. 1694889

>>1694816
I noticed while watching the programme Hoarders how cruel they can be to their families.

No. 1694919

>>1694816
This is my mom and it drives me absolutely crazy. She has so much dishes and silverware like we don’t even need 80% of it. I also can’t deal with her being ADHD it’s incredibly frustrating to talk to her about anything because she has to talk over you. I’m also ADHD too lol.

No. 1694969

>>1694816
My parents are hoarders. Thought it was normal growing up to have entire locked bedrooms full of old shit while all the kids share a room. Very retarded of me I know

No. 1695112

cluster bs and non-cluster bs who cult aspd/npd as an advantage through their hollywood psychopathy goggles instead of recognizing how much these immature people fuck up their entire lives and without change will end up unsuccessful miserable failures

No. 1695245

Anorexics. Not even the not eating thing but the fact you literally cannot say anything near or around them without them using it to fuel their ED. You could have an entire conversation that has nothing to do about food, weight, body image and doesn't even include them and somehow they will make it about them. There's no point in trying to make them feel better about themselves because literally no matter what you say again it somehow fuels their ED. Genuine compliment = calling them fat. Explaining that they smell like ass and need serious help = trying to make them fat and calling them fat. Fuck it saying nothing = calling them fat.
Anyone who attempts to help them whatsoever are apparently the worst people ever, but also if you say nothing you're also an evil person.

No. 1695246

>>1695112
But I’m le based Patrick Bateman Ryan Gosling Batman no feelings having sigma manipulator teehee

No. 1695248

>>1695245
This is how I feel about infertile women kek

No. 1695263


No. 1695266

>>1695245
samefag
Honestly anyone with a mental illness who refuses any help because they want to stay a victim. I saw a woman get torn to shreds because she explained how a "disability hack" actually would be more likely to make people sicker, of course that meant she was ableist despite being disabled herself. I've been told I am ableist for wishing I had access to therapy at an early age (I was diagnosed late for multiple disorders) and that instead I should expect the rest of the world to bend to me, and therefore I hate disabled people. I get things can be hard but most people with mental disorders can ease things with common sense like if you know lateness is a issue set alarms, but most of them love pity so

No. 1695277

>>1695263
You really try to tell me you’ve never seen an infertile woman who seethes and causes drama because a woman in her vicinity got pregnant or chose to have an abortion or chose to be child free

No. 1695807

>>1695277
don't know why they even complain, probably pro-lifetard brainwashing. they are absolutely blessed.

No. 1696141

I know it was touched on but AFRID. I dated someone with it and it was fucking annoying and I have sensory issues with food myself. The absolute breakdowns if one tiny food particle touches their safe foods, they just look at a food and act like they are dying ect. I cooked for the one I dated (due to work schedule and other stuff, and honestly I love cooking and was trying to do something nice to ease their heavy work to life schedule) and absolutely everything I put in they wanted to inspect and measure. I asked them to find a recipe because we ate the same food over and over which resulted in a meltdown, started telling them to cook their own foods which apparently made me the biggest cunt on earth. I'd be ok with it if they kept it to themselves but they go on and on about dying. Going out to eat was more of a chore than an exciting thing because they had to analyse every menu and if one thing was off they wouldn't go, plus it's embarrassing going to nice places for them to order plain pasta.

No. 1696440

>>1695807
This is some moid tier shit, did it ever occur to you that some people have kids because they actually want them?

No. 1774219

Bump but fucking autism. Some of them use it as an excuse for fucking everything, 'muh but I didn't know I was being rude tho!'. You could get over yourself and say you're sorry. Women who have it are embarrassing most of the time and moids are either gross or evil.

No. 1774733

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People with ASPD, and edgetards who WANT to have ASPD. The first group are a bunch of psychologically jaded fags who are either locked behind bars for the worst possible crimes anyone could ever commit (at worst), or whiny little losers who get on Tumblr or Quora to whine about not having friends even though they don't have the empathy to keep or deserve any (at best). The second group are most likely either a bunch of angsty teenagers, or straight up autisimos who mistake their failed social lives for being completely devoid of having any humanity and self-diagnose themselves with ASPD to runaway from the realization that they failrd at building a social life because they're just stupid losers.

No. 1774768

>>1774219

I notice that a lot of the people who blame their autism on horrible behavior are actually the ones who are actually able to be held accountable for it, but choose to hide behind the autism card for it. Level 2 and 3 autism I can understand somewhat, they have stunted emotional intelligence. Level 3 autists genuinely cannot be blamed, they likely have intellectual disabilities with it and probably have the self control of a child. Level 2 is similar but they often have the realization much later and are pretty much helpless to fix it. Imagine if you had the emotional intelligence of a little kid, but the cognitive intelligence to realize that you’re bothering people. It’s pretty miserable and they or their caregivers are apologetic. Level 1 is the high functioning, and they’re smart enough to know that levels 2/3 get a pass on bad behavior, but have the emotional and cognitive intelligence to know what they’re doing is wrong.

No. 1774843

>>1696141
I wish AFRID was seen as every other eating disorder in that people with it was encouraged to try to get rid of it. People with AFRID should have a specialized psychologist/dietician/whatever who will teach them how to eat more than 3 dishes. It's for their own sake mostly so they don't develop scurvy

No. 1781530

Toy collectors

No. 1799503

any extreme phobia/ocd. it can literally only be developed by being overly curled throughout life, and being considerate about it is just plain enabling, don't do it.

No. 1806802

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this bullshit

it's a self-defeating cycle, and i don't give a shit. you push people away because you're extremely needy and demanding. grow up. go to therapy.

No. 1807127

ADHD is the most embarrassing diagnosis and idk why zoomers think it's cool to have it.
So you're hyperactive like a kid on soda sugars, can't fucking shut up, can't fucking focus on anything, forget shit, talk over others, don't listen to anything ever and you're unreliable? Who's gonna like you? Other zoomers on tiktok?

No. 1816933

Nonverbal autistic people drive me nuts.
Unless they have cognitive disabilities that affect their processing and communication, there is no reason of being nonverbal.
I'm not talking about being socially active, I'm talking about basic communication. You don't know what ails them, wether it would be pain or something that's bothering them, they have a functioning brain and functioning voice and will have a mental breakdown if you don't understand what they want/need at the very first.
Understand what I am saying? Do you have a voice? SPEAK. Even a word is enough.
And Autism mummies should stop the enabling, because they're raising spoiled little shits. Want a glass of water? Say it. Say "water". Don't jump and scream if I can't read your mind, especially if you can understand me.
God they're the most annoying type despite being in silence.
Even at the doctor's office or hospital, they need Mummy Translator Tard to English, but sure do they have the voice to scream and cry. Fuck them.

No. 1837126

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Eating disorders should classified into paranoiac subtypes (the ones that need to feel in control) and narcissistic subtypes. When people post their binges/do bodychecks/post shit online about food and anything and need the constant approvation of others, that's the same thing as being an attention-seeking self harmer. Eugenia Cooney is a narc, constantly looking at herself and doing little dances to show off, the same can be said about Lucinda and in the other part, there's the HAES movement. They're all narcs, that's just rely on food and its lack of as a vehicle to get more attention. Most people talking about ED online don't have one, they're using it as an excuse to get attention like those who faked being depressed in the 2010s.

No. 1837127

>>1837126
Just imagine thinking about filming your "mental disorder", film it in every part, edit it in a cutesy way, enjoying the sweet attention that this gives to you. They're either histrionics or narcs, the food is not the problem with these people, they would even film them shooting heroin if it was allowed on social media.

No. 1837149

My ex best friend is someone with BPD and huge narcissistic traits. He would always accuse me of liking other people more than him and I’d always reassure him but it wouldn’t be enough because he’d do the same thing if he saw me making friends with other people. I tried being very patient with him but towards the end of our friendship I started having horrible mental health so I became a bit of a recluse and he stopped reaching out and then officially cut me off and essentially blamed me for it.

No. 1837157

>>1673622
My ex’s father said he had trouble remembering his only son’s birthday because muh ADHD. Even for the most weaponized incompetent-y scrotes that’s low.

No. 1839565

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autists … i find it hard to believe that most people who claim their autistic actually are, especially annoying cunts like picrel

No. 1839582

>>1837157
My dad has pretty severe ADHD and has never once remembered my birthday correctly kek. I have adhd too and can’t remember dates but I’ve never forgotten his birthday because I just remind myself it’s a week after mine. he doesn’t even try to remember. I think that’s just the deal with ADHD moids.

No. 1839894

Therapy can be helpful for many people and seeking help is admirable, but I can't stand people who bring their therapy up just because, regardless of the situation, like when someone mentions that they just scheduled a therapy appointment when you weren't making plans, or "my therapist told me xyz" with xyz only vaguely related to the conversation topic. They never do the same with their dentist appointments, so it seems like some kind of brag.

No. 1839925

I have autism, but other autistic people piss me off so much idk why. I make an effort to be normal but they’re totally fine acting like uncanny, offputting Reddit trannies.

No. 1840121

>>1839565
So many are self-diagnosed. Even the ones who got a diagnosis may end up going to assessments like 5 times and over-exaggerate their symptoms just to get a diagnosis. Also there are faulty assessments that diagnose people in like 1 hour when in reality an ASD assessment should take a lot longer. A lot of people don't seem to realize that you can have autistic traits without having ASD. It needs to affect multiple areas of your daily life.
>>1839925
You are probably lucky (or unlucky depending on how you look at it) enough to be a self-aware autist. ASD is often ego-syntonic and so autists usually lack self-awareness.

No. 1840148

BPD.
You're just embarrassing yourself.
I also want to mention the DID larpers. You know why I don't film my mental illness? Because it's embarrassing and these people should realize that too.

No. 1840157

>>1840148
My parents once filmed me having a meltdown and used it as blackmail against me. Filming any sort of mental episode is fucking humiliating, we need to instill shame in people that do this.

No. 1840182


No. 1840188

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my sister has two diagnosis, one autism,
one just Mental Retardation. if it is autism, its the worst form there is. my single mother takes care of her 24/7, and it has taken the worst toll on her. my sister is nonverbal, has not been separated from a screen (tv, dvd player, ipad, iphone) for more than 20+ years, and will literally wail and shriek when going out in public, slobber and drool all over herself, and hit herself in the face with her sharp nails (because she wont let you clip them) to the point she has scabs upon bleeding scabs on her chin and jawline. her screen addiction has caused her to go cross eyed a few years ago, and since she has to be strapped to a chair and sedated at the dentist, my mother doesnt regularly take her to the dentist, so her teeth are literally fucked. she has buck teeth and crooked teeth. when she was young, she would pull out her hair and eat it, leaving bald spots on her head. she doesnt do this anymore but i vaguely remember one night at my grandmas, we would share a bed when staying the night, and she pulled my own hair out one night and ate it. the icing on the cake is that she cannot use the bathroom herself. she has had to wear diapers all 23 years of her life, and her adult sized shits cause such a mess that, if i were her caregiver, id just put her in the shower every time she shit. it gets up her back, down her legs, on her bed, because she cannot tell my mother that she shit herself.

i feel like she is becoming more like a vegetable every single day. she used to be able to give cues for what she wanted, when she was hungry, when she wanted to go somewhere, she even used to be able to say "dada" to my father, but now she just grunts and hums, and whenever i come to visit my mother or hang out with her, she will wave her saliva covered hands so close in my face i can smell it. she cannot walk properly anymore either. at my grandmas old house, she would run up and down my grandmas stairs all day and laugh and have fun while doing it; now she needs major help ascending and descending stairs because her knees are turned inward and she waddles instead of properly walking. i cant imagine that her vision is good either due to her crooked eye.

i find it hard for me to feel any sort of true love for her as i never had a relationship with her. i never "hung out" with her because she couldnt talk, and she would just watch videos and dvds all damn day. i was also charged with taking care of her pretty much every day of my life growing up starting in my teen years, having to change her shitty diapers, feed her her shitty food, and listen to her shitty videos on full blast volume every single day. now, my mom has to do it all by herself, and i personally think she needs to put my sister in a home as soon as possible or my moms quality of life will only decrease more. my mom doesnt have time to go out and do anything because of my sisters condition.

ive heard most people in my family say they want to smack or punch my sister when she cries, my mom will yell at her "shut up" or "no one cares", or will shove her cell phone in front of her to get her to stop wailing, and i feel bad for saying this but, id probably do the same thing. i get why they feel that way about her, but its still sad to hear them say those things. my dad has completely abandoned her pretty much, he would always preach autism awareness and rep autism awareness clothing and even has a tattoo, but he doesnt see my sister maybe more than 4-5 times a year, while my mom is stuck with her all year long. after she was born and they found out what was wrong with her, it messed my dad up so bad he started taking pills to cope, which ultimately led to my parents divorce.

i dont know what the right answer is, but i would not ever want to be in my moms position. i wouldve put her in a home or some type of care the moment she could start walking. a child like her really is just too much for a family.

No. 1840189

>>1840182
I was a kid and they were trying to get me to go to school

No. 1840242

>>1840188
Shit like this is why I'm pro abortion overall all other reasons. Mental retardation also means physical problems to some extent, many people believe that mental disorders and physical disorders are two separate things when in reality, they're very much connected.
I wish we would develop tests for heavy autism and mental retardation directly in womb and while this may sound unhinged, forcibly abort fetuses who cannot survive on their own. Eugenetics is not a bad thing, the only people who love mentally retarded children are extreme munchies by proxy and narcs that feel good by the attention their token retarded child gives them. So sorry for you nona.

No. 1840259

>>1840157
This happened to me frequently throughout the years. As a child. As an adult a few times. I started audio recording my family in retribution when they'd heap it on me to show to my therapist and friends.

They were horrified by what they heard.

No. 1840282

>>1840157
I am so sorry to hear that anon.

No. 1840327

>>1840188
I understand nonnie, my aunt has a similar condition and my mom insist on bringing her everywhere we go, its specially bad when we go to restaurants and my aunt just starts screaming and crying and nobody can understand why, she also has to be fed and has trouble eating, so everytime we go out everyone is looking at us, which I know i shouldnt mind but between all the looks and how she just starts drooling all over the place i just sometimes just decline going out.
She also wears diapers and I remember one time she shat so much my whole sofa was covered in shit, and for a week my whole house stank and I had to avoid bringing friends inside the house.
I dont know how my mom has dealt with her for 50 something years and I will never know what she actually feels for her. I dont ever talk about this because im scared of getting judged by people that have never lived this situation and would just say "but its not her fault" ok ? it isnt mine either kek

No. 1840337

>>1840188
My male cousin has severe autism. I don’t see him often, only on holidays, but he has a very threatening demeanor. He’s 6’3 and pretty heavy set. He has beaten his mother so bad that she will have to lock herself in the bathroom until he calms down. He has also punched my fragile tiny grandmother in the arm. If he ever went after me or my mother I wouldn’t hesitate to off him with whatever is in my vicinity. I know it’s not his fault, but I can’t help but hate him. He’s in his 40’s now and really should be put in a special care facility, but everyone on that side of the family is against it. One of these days he’s gonna kill his mother, I’m sure of it. They refuse to call the police on him when he goes ape mode because they’re afraid the cops will shoot him.

In the case of my aunt and your mother, it might just be a mother’s love, but idk I couldn’t picture myself sacrificing my entire life to raise an adult toddler.

No. 1840409

>>1840188
This is awful, I'm so sorry nonna, and of course for your mom. Feels like this is one of the cases where putting her in a home would be lifesaving. 24/7 caring for a disabled person is bound to shorten your lifespan.
also kek Of course your dad's noped out of caring for her, how fucking typical.

No. 1840426

>>1840188
I'm pretty sure I made a rant just like this, but about my aunt and my retarded cousin. Like I said before, I roll my eyes to the back inches of my skull when I hear women and see users confidently saying they would raise a severely retarded child, knowing full well that this would be the outcome…because no the fuck they wouldn't. They're just saying that to look all virtue signally and rebellious in mother culture, because I seriously doubt 99.9% of all the morons saying they would do this even have the patience to raise a normal kid without having a periodic breakdown about how hard it already is.

No. 1840433

>>1840327
>>1840337
All these cases are why I'm pro-abortion and pro-euthanasia for adults. I'm not sure they can make the conscious choice to be euthanized but some of these poor retarded folks would be better off dead than trapped in their bodies.

No. 1840482

>>1840337
i work in the medical field and it's so awful how often things like this happen. for some reason severely autistic men are often very large and violent towards their mothers specifically. i know of a woman who was partially blinded by her son, it was so awful. where i live there is virtually 0 programs for these men once they reach 18

No. 1843077

>>1839925
I can’t stand the high-functioning autists who try to act like they’re super intelligent by using big words and mentioning random unrelated factoids they clearly learned about from youtube video essays. there’s always a few in my classes and they make me irrationally angry because i acted the same way before i gained some self awareness as a teen. it’s like I’m angry at my past self too kek

No. 1863360

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No. 1863386

>>1863360
He couldn't have waited until his son was off to university?

No. 1865329

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Nah, stop coping. Actually caring people don't have a disorder.

No. 1865758

>>1863360
This just makes me feel bad, her reaction is justified

No. 1865791

Drug addiction

No. 1866274

>>1865791
Every addict (alcohol, drugs, food) is such a loser unworthy of help. I get it, it's a coping mechanism, but it eventually affects everyone else so they have to get abandoned early on.

No. 1867085

>>1865329
It's a joke tweet retard, almost positive it's referencing how obsessive and psycho bpdfags are.

No. 1867439

>>1867085
Nah it's serious. Look at the bpd girlies in the replies going "frrrrrrr our disorder is sooooooo misunderstoooooodd!!!"
Maybe the op posted it trying to be ironic or such, but the bippie tards flooded it with selfpity and attention fishing. They latch onto anything just to justify their "strong emotions".

No. 1867441

>>1867439
Sorry if this is a dumb question but why do anons hate people with BPD so much? From what I know of it it just seems to be having very unstable emotions. I don’t see other cluster b like NPD and ASPD get shat on so much

No. 1867449

>>1867441
Because Bippies love to victimize themselves. NPD people aren't out that much, like ASPD. Bippies are dramatic and hide behind the misunderstood label, they inhale massive amounts of coping, like they can sense on some degree that something's wrong but instead of searching for help, they blame others, they always make themselves the victim and love to brag about how they only feel strong emotions and it's not fair!
I'd take a NPD over a BPD any day. A NPD person true, it's shitty, but it almost never slips and wouldn't do retarded push-pulls dynamics. BPDs is just NPD but retarded, they're in the same cluster but only one of them loves to being victimizied and pitied and since lately the topic of mental disorders is being de-stigmatized, they take advantage of that, by accusing everyone of ableism/insensitivitiy towards their "disorder."
BPD also makes you "catch fleas", basically since it's retarded NPD and it frequently has slips, it makes your brain so confused that it basically traumatizes you with mixed signals and you start to see that shit everywhere. While you can start to hate someone with NPD (talking about it since it's the same cluster), with BPD it's trickier because since they're retarded, really, they have the mental capacity of a child, thus making them literally retarded, they often pull the victim card and start to cry to manipulate you to feel bad for them. Getting out of a BPD relationship, when someone is not used to their shitty act, it's hard because they make you believe that they want to get better but eventually, they don't. It's like stepping in shit, whining about the stink and checking everywhere but your own fucking shoes, so they end up in enabling circles and dismiss any help that you want to give them. Not worth the time and energy, they're failed people that deserve and need to be completely alone.

No. 1870104

Germaphobes and clean freaks because they have even less self-awareness and a bigger martyr complex than BPDs.

Any criticism toward their objectively mentally ill habits gets twisted into you being "dirty" as if it's healthy to wash your hands until they crack and bleed. They impose insane cleaning standards on a household and act like an abused martyr when nobody has time for it (everyone in a house should contribute to chores but I'm talking about people who like want the floors sanitized 3x a day.). Refuse to get help because, again, they've just decided that since being clean is good it's impossible to overdo it.

COVID made it worse and now we have the same personality type expecting everyone to mask forever, even at outdoor events, because muh germs. Mental illness, go to therapy, you aren't 'tidy' you have OCPD and need help.

No. 1870154

>>1843077
Same. Not only that but they also usually have a massive victim complex and are more or less incapable of surviving on their own, yet they have the audacity to look down on everyone else. What use is a 158 iq if you can’t cook a meal for yourself without burning the house down? What good is it if you’re hardly capable of attending to your own personal hygiene?
Oh and I hate the way people with the mildest autism ever think they can judge the families of people with severe and complex autism? They say stuff like “I’m autistic and I never hit people so there’s no excuse!!” About someone who’s essentially a retard, or get mad at their parents for being sad about their child’s autism when the kid can’t even speak. Or they compare caring for their own child with mild autism to caring for a child with complex autism. “Well WE think little Timmy’s autism is a gift! He knows so much about space so you should be grateful for your child who’s the same age and still in diapers!!!” The autism is really showing. Same reason we shouldn’t let people with fucking Down syndrome dictate abortion laws. We shouldn’t let autists speak about autism care. They’re RETARDS. You can’t have an autism diagnoses without being a retard in some way, even if you’re otherwise some sort of Alan Turing (who was a social retard) it doesn’t make you special or better than other people, quite the opposite. If people truly understood that, there’d be far less diagnoses. People would realise it’s not a “treat me/my kid like I’m/they’re special and at the same time let me get away with whatever I/they want” golden ticket.

No. 1870157

>>1870154
Samefag, because people with autism are social retards, they struggle with empathy on a grander scale. They only feel empathy (if at all) in a very singular way and when they do it’s almost always deeply personal. So they will feel endless empathy for the person most like themselves but none whatsoever for the people around them. It’s the same with people with Down’s syndrome. They see it as themselves being killed every time someone makes the wise choice to screen for Down’s syndrome. They don’t even like it when people get IVF to ensure their child doesn’t get Down’s syndrome, because they see that as hitler putting them personally in a gas chamber. Their retarded brain can’t comprehend why it could be a good thing. Why it’s preventing suffering to so many and improving the quality of society in general. Autism does not make people intelligent, they are intelligent in spite of their autism and would still be intelligent without it.

No. 1870190

>>1870154
God, autistic people who lose their minds when mothers don't dedicate themselves to their autistic sons are the worst. A mother will be blogging her laments about how her child is basically an animal that will never be able to function in society and then the autistic dudes will show up and scream at how she's a eugenicist who wants all autistic people dead. They're so self centered that they cannot imagine any position that does not directly benefit them.

No. 1870488

>>1867441
I have experience dating a BPD person and being friends with one, and their bullshit wrings you dry. Here's some great examples of why I do not associate closely with people who say they have BPD or exhibit BPD behaviors:
>34 y/o roommate gets mad at ME because I got a refund on a return and they didn't. Like shaking crying mad.
>Constant annoying begging for reassurance even if you've already reassured them
>Ruining an entire overnight trip because THEY didn't sleep - proceeds to complain about everything all day.
>Comes home from a club at 6 AM and starts laughing and talking loudly while other friends are asleep, acts like its the other friends fault that they didn't stay up with them
>excuses all their behavior with self-diagnosed autism

This particular BPD person was dumped by a therapist because the therapist couldn't take their bullshit anymore. That's therapist-speak for "you need a stronger therapy than what I can provide" but of course this was a great chance for them to victimize themselves about it.
>calls themselves a psychic and an empath when really they're a cunt that overanalyzes things and expects everyone to emotionally sooth them

No. 1870491

>>1870488
Surely this isn’t most people with BPD though, is what I’m saying? People seem to vehemently dislike them specifically, despite the fact there are other disorders that are equally as inconvenient equally as often, or perhaps more.

No. 1870499

>>1870104
Holy shit yes. The lack of self-awareness is what makes it so insufferable. Them having a full-on meltdown over a milk carton pointing the wrong direction suddenly turns into "I just like things organized and clean, imagine trying to complain about that when some people are actually abusive!" Then they're determined to act like everyone around them is a disgusting slob for refusing to spend hours steam cleaning the carpet every single day. The anxiety is so palpable and infectious too. Absolutely impossible people to live with.

No. 1870504

>>1870491
nayrt but sadly every BPD person I've met irl (that I know of) is how that anon described or worse. There are probably people who have it who are totally fine, but they've usually gone through some type of therapy and rarely disclose their diagnosis. I've known many mental cases but the BPDs rank with narcissists and compulsive liars on the People I Don't Want In My Life chart.

No. 1871514

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Genuine question to BPD girls. When you take on the interests of your new favorite person, do you genuinely try to like, and enjoy the interests? Do you develop new hobbies for your FP? Is it subconscious or a conscious effort? Do you resent it?(wrong thread)

No. 1871535

>>1840188
kind of an old post but interesting as i have a male cousin who is around the same age as your sister and this describes him to a T. crossed eyes from only watching things 24/7, only humming/grunting sometimes (he used to do gestures he was taught not sure if he still does), have had issues like dental problems that he cannot verbalize so it gets really bad before anyone notices. on top of all the physical health issues he gets seizures too. i think it's crazy how many people who don't know someone who actually has full blown MR don't understand two things:
1) for people tinfoiling autism is not real, the quirky self diagnosing normies and chris-chan-esque spergs have basically erased people who legitimately have this condition. my bf (understandably imo bc of "autism" being trendy now) believes that all autism is fake and i had to explain to him before we saw this side of my family that this cousin is legitimately autistic and isn't just some run of the mill sperg who only talks about pokemon, like he's literally mute. i think that was his first time actually witnessing that yeah some people have a legitimate neurodevelopmental disorder and no it's not fake or brought on by parents.
2) many people choose to ignore how fucking hard it is for families who have kids like this. the family of this cousin of mine is luckily very financially well off and it seems they have collectively chosen to publicly be as positive as they can be and laugh a lot of things off. i do believe they want to put him in a home but from what i've been told the one they want him in has a ridiculously long waiting list. but there are people like my brother who take things at face value and seem to believe that "see, it's not that hard!" for them when i actually interpret it as them choosing to not mope about it in front of everyone because it technically wouldn't help them at all.
i'm very sorry this is your situation. i think the majority of people do not know a person with serious legitimate MR/autism and they don't know a lot about it at all.

>>1840242
i agree with you completely. families with these kids and care centers dedicated to them are seemingly at a loss at all times. i personally hate being around them especially when they are male for obvious reasons. i don't think it's worth it. i hope my other cousin (his brother) is not forced to take care of his brother when their parents pass away, but maybe he will be in a care home by then.

No. 1871918

>>1867441
The incessant attention seeking, self-pitying, jealousy, obsession, and bitterness is like nothing else. It's worse in a way than other similar conditions because BPD is mainly caused by severe trauma. I know they all whinge about muh empathyyyyyy but I swear they have no shred of empathy between the lot of them. I've had BPD 'friends' and I swear they all want to get worse. None of them ever considered therapy because they would be made to face their own bullshit. One 'friend' that particularly traumatized me always went after men in relationships to prove that she was the superior woman, had a shitload of plastic surgery then cried because she looked nothing like her previous photos (before the surgeries she'd go through those same photos and nitpick her body and face and made me and her other friends nitpick her too, 24/7). She was a massive alcoholic and had the habit of stopping drinking in order to get sick and be hospitalized when she wanted to make her moid of the month worry about her. When she got the pity she wanted she'd go right back to downing vodka every day while going to AA meetings for validation on how she was sooo sober now. She'd livestream herself taking pills and drinking in the bath sobbing about how she was always there for us and we didn't even get her a gift for her and her current moid's one-week anniversary and whatever Buzzfeed slop she read said this meant we weren't friends. This would happen maybe once or twice a month. We'd spend hours with her on the phone, she always did this until the early hours if she knew we had work or something important the next day. She literally could not handle being seen as less of a priority than a job interview or a presentation at work. She used to stalk all of her ex-moids and their exes, she had multiple separate profiles she used, and she'd have breakdowns whenever the exes were doing OK. She was so mad after one breakup (that she caused by cheating with an engaged moid) when the ex fiancee was like 'lol trash takes itself out, still going to the Caribbean!' that she drove like 5 hours to the airport to find the woman and say she was going to blow up the plane. I don't know what happened after that but she didn't gloat about it so presumably the situation did not turn out to her liking. She had a truly awful childhood but clung to it like glue and got mad when anyone mentioned their own shit to an insane extent. Sometimes she watched the news and worked herself up into a rage because of child abuse stories, she'd get mad that babies and toddlers were battered to death by their parents because they 'got justice' when their parents went to prison and SHE never got that. She got mad at Holocaust survivors who were kids in concentration camps because they 'got famous' from their 'experiences' and 'never suffered like she did because they're still here'. The empathy and compassion oozed out of her pores.
TLDR keep the fuck away from BPD chans. I learnt my lesson with this cow, I've immediately cut all contact with anyone exhibiting signs of BPD shit after her and life has never been better.
>>1870154
I worked with a woman years ago whose son was autistic and extremely retarded, he was in a group home and needed multiple specialized carers to keep him from killing himself. He was completely non-verbal except for screaming and one step away from being a vegetable but he used to wrap blankets around his head all the time and try to eat dog shit and Lego pieces and tried to run into the road to follow trucks. I don't know how he's doing now but he was almost 40 when I worked with her and she was proud that he'd made so much progress, he used to be doped up 24/7 because he chimped out at his carers and bit them and shit. Apparently more than one carer had ended up in hospital because of his silly good-natured antics. She got so defensive over him despite having to put him in a group home when he was a teenager because he tried to rape her and his sister and killed their dog when he was playing with it. She called him her sweet little angel boy and always showed us photos of him that his carers sent her, she said she'd never change him because God made him special and anyone who got rid of their similarly autistic/retarded children deserved to suffer. She visited him every weekend for half an hour at the home, never in public because he used to attack her whenever he saw her and once ripped her shirt off in a restaurant while screaming, and nobody can find out that her little angel baby is anything but perfect and TOTALLY capable of leading a normal life. She got so mad when she found out that the carers had stopped taking him to museums and art galleries and restaurants because she was convinced that he needed the cultural enrichment. He'd attacked other visitors and diners and bit a waiter at least once. He could barely chew and was at danger of choking if he ate anything that wasn't cooked to exactly the right texture and mashed. I still think she was somehow trying to get him to choke and die, but she was so entrenched in delusional cope that it's hard to tell.

No. 1872143

>>1870491
I understand that, but from my perspective, I have several negative experiences with two separate people who either strongly suspected or said they were diagnosed as BPD. I would rather not open myself up to another person who I know has BPD again. That being said, it doesn't mean I'm going to banish them from my presence - I'm just not going to pursue a close relationship with them, because I can't expect everyone with BPD to go to therapy, and I also can't expect a person to change on a condition of continuing a relationship with them. It's just not worth the pain.

No. 1873460

It's not that I can't deal with NPD but I don't really see a point in doing that. It can be ok when all communication is shallow, but when it's already come to the point where you try to keep it shallow, is it really worth it? It's so annoying when they try to seem spiritual/super rational/calm and serene/excessively sweet, when you know they're not like that at all. They can be the most uptight/overly sensitive/passive aggressive/arrogant people you've ever met. Even if they acknowledge their flaws, it's just humblebragging. Even if they're smarter than being openly toxic to you, they'll give you backhanded compliments, occasionally ignore you, "forget" about your birthday. Talk behind your back. How do I know? I know what they say about their close ones or our mutual friends, acquaintances, relatives. It's especially interesting to watch when it's something in your group chat and they come into your dms to complain about the person with whom they've just had a conversation where they acted like a totally reasonable person that's sort of "above" everything, philosophical and accepting. In the dms you learn that this person is actually soooo fucking dumb and annoying. But then it's all good and they happily emotionally dump on that same person in their dms.
Their constant need for validation, attention and praise is exhausting. Do they really need to be the smartest? The most beautiful (to the degree where strangers allegedly approach them almost in awe)? Fearless? Able to do a great number of things "magnificently", no less? Feeling everything stronger than anyone else, caring about things NO ONE ELSE cares about (but meaningful ones ofc)? I swear no one talks about themselves the same way narcissists do, even if they try to be more subtle with their self-admiration.
At the same time, I think I could actually be friends with someone with NPD if they were self-aware enough, I don't mind a bit of assholery, I'm not perfect myself. But never in a romantic relationship, fuuuuuuuck thaaaaaaat. I care about a couple of people that very likely have at least pronounced NPD and BPD traits and I used to be in a very close relationships with one, I know they're not happy and I sympathize with them, but only from afar now.
I also had a friend that's definitely a narc but I don't feel bad for this fucker. He actually did something funny though
>would constantly see other people looking at me judgementally when we were together
>sometimes these people would also allegedly mumble something rude about me and he could hear it (I could never)
>it started happening when I became more confident and he knew I wouldn't take his shit anymore. random strangers just became mysteriously hostile to me for no reason lol
>sometimes he was convinced total strangers, especially a company of friends, cared about him and paid attention to what he was saying, so he would say something "scandalous" loudly and pretend it wasn't intentional
>he was sure they were looking at him when they clearly were busy with their own thing
>he was the only one who eavesdropped on them and made little comments about their conversation. idk how to explain it but it's like he interacted with these random people and they were completely clueless. it was amusing to watch

No. 1874442

>>1873460
Damn you just described me

No. 1874463

>>1871514
I don’t do it on purpose, it just happens. They are into something, it seems fun and I really, genuinely get into it. I’m extremely into it for a while until I realize I don’t give a shit anymore and move onto something else, just like I do with my own hobbies. That’s why I currently have several hundred dollars worth of Warhammer figures in my closet I have no idea what to do with kek. I do resent this habit a lot, it’s set me back financially quite a bit. That’s one of the things I need to work on, starting with maybe selling or donating my old hobby stuff.(not the thread for this)

No. 1874466

>>1871514
>>1874463

there's a bpd thread, go there

No. 1874473

>>1874463
Also doubleposting to say ”I don’t give a shit” sounds more nonchalant than it is. I do still find the hobby interesting, but the guilt I feel about consooming supplies for it takes the joy away from it, even if it makes no sense. I also often find new stuff to be excited about, so the old stuff just slowly fades into the background. Sorry for the no1curr novel btw.

No. 1874506

>>1874442
>Do they really need to be the smartest? The most beautiful (to the degree where strangers allegedly approach them almost in awe)? Fearless? Able to do a great number of things "magnificently", no less? Feeling everything stronger than anyone else, caring about things NO ONE ELSE cares about (but meaningful ones ofc)?

This part, nona?

No. 1875142

>>1874506
Yes but also especially the first paragraph

No. 1875196

>>1871535
>neurodevelopmental disorder and no it's not fake or brought on by parents.
Hard disagree about the parents part. Neglect and abuse causes brain damage, I fully believe a kid not genetically predisposed to tism can have it induced by shitty parents.

No. 1875208

>>1875196
I thought autism was something wrong with your genes since birth? It’s just that CPTSD has a lot of overlap with autism

No. 1875211

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wtf lol

No. 1875503

>>1875196
I just want to reiterate I'm talking about full blown MR and not chris-chan aspies. you know the ones that can barely walk and go ABLOOBLOOBLOO and literally do nothing else but stare at make grunting sounds? if you haven't had to be subjected to one i'm envious of that. while i'd be all for aborting these, it's something that is usually detected after birth because the infant is extremely far from meeting developmental milestones and there's no prenatal testing for it iirc. i can't see why say, a family with one perfectly functioning child would suddenly have an infant that isn't developing right other than the fact it's a neurodevelopmental disorder. and yeah i believe it's genetic as well but i've wondered if doing drugs even before getting pregnant can change the quality of ova/sperm.
i'm known in social circles to absolutely hate retards and will leave a public area if i see one ffs i typically refuse to see my family members with the retard because he walked into the room everyone was in fully naked once when i was 13 and it was horrifying for me but ofc my family all thought it was cute bc copium. i can't believe of all people i'm defending them. i really think it's people who think autism = chris chan and all the self diagnosed autists all over the internet where yeah the parents induced his problems imo, where actual mental retardation is extremely different. i'm so jealous of people who haven't had to be around actual retards, they creep me out so much it's genuinely like there's no soul they're practically walking vegetables.

No. 1875924

I hate that kind of mentally ill people (falling mostly on the cluster B) that uses extreme cases of mental illness to justify their behaviour because they could be like that.
Like on Twitter, I always see this post that says "PLS don't call ppl gross for not brushing their teeth!! :'( do you know that depression makes you shit in your bed and die??"
While that's kinda true, I mean I saw people shitting in their bed, those are extremely bad, neglected cases, get up and wash your crusty ass because being gross is not funny and nobody is laughing. If you have enough energy to fish for attention online, you can also take a shower you dirty slob. Everytime I see someone posting stuff like "I got out of bed today!!" Yes that's the bare minimum, congrats. What about doing it for yourself and not for getting asspats on the internet? These people loved to claim they're depressed but they just love attention and surprise! Depressed people don't want that. A lot of these people really re-defined some mental illnesses and I hate anyone who distorts their definition so they can fit in with their preferred diagnosis instead of accepting they're only dramatic.

No. 1878070

>>1871535
This is why I think they should’ve kept the aspergers label or at least simply changed the name instead of shoving it into the autism spectrum. Aspergers is so different and a whole other ball park. I think it being shoved into the autism spectrum makes it to where people with aspergers aren’t believed and don’t get proper accommodations.

No. 1878077

>>1878070
I agree with this. It's retarded to put asperger people who are able to live mostly on their own, with some extra support (I know people like this, they are not like the tiktok fakers) in the same category as people who shit and piss themselves on the daily and who can't communicate other than scream into your face. It's like saying a lightly sprained ankle is the same as having a shark bite both of your legs off.

No. 1878084

>>1840188
There's a level of retardation that brings into question if the person is even living a dignified valuable life, or if they're just suffering and making others suffer too. I think almost everyone having to deal with that person suffers a massive amount of guilt from finding it hard to cope with it, and you of course get nothing in return from the person as they have no awareness of their surroundings or other human beings. If it was any other person keeping another person from doing anything they love, from living their life, making them rely on them 24/7 without as much as a "thank you", using up all your bank funds etc people would call it toxic and say you need to get out of the relationship. But you can't when it's a mentally disabled person you're stuck with. Maybe there's a certain type of person who can handle it becuase they get a kick out of taking care of helpless people, but it sure ain't me.

No. 1878212

Depression where they won't let others be happy. Maybe it's awful to say but you could have a nice day going out to do something together or just hanging out and they'll pick out one small thing to bitch and moan about for the rest of the day, always talking about their lives like it's some kind of telenovella. Maybe if you ever thought about someone other than yourself you might be happier.

No. 1878218

>>1878070
I wonder how much of it being integrated into general autism spectrum disorder came from the revulsion of Asperger's being named after Hans Asperger. I know that Level 1 is meant to replace it but by virtue of being a spectrum it all seems too broad when the previous levels of specificity worked in favour of people getting the support they specifically required.

No. 1878240

>>1878218
I don't think it's useful to anyone to classify level 1 autism/asperger's as a mental illness/disorder to begin with. Most people don't even notice it as anything other than a quirk of personality.

No. 1878246

>>1878240
It's classed that way so someone can receive support or accommodations if they need them. If someone doesn't need support they don't need a diagnosis but there's a lot of people who seek diagnosis to "better know themselves". There are definitely type 1/aspies who are noticeably "off" to normies and need help with daily living tasks, they're just currently overshadowed by the current crop of tiktok fakers and online activists who treat it like a harmless personality quirk that never affects someone's functional ability.

No. 1878252

>>1878218
Tumblrtards will call you a Nazi for identifying as aspie and then wear dr martens and think they’re punk (based on true events)

No. 1879494

>>1878240
"Most people don't even notice" doesn't mean the person doesn't require help on the near daily just to live. If they're truly just a bit quirky then they don't qualify for a diagnosis to begin with.

No. 1879552

>>1878246
Yeah, if someone is just quirky then they don’t have it, full stop. Even autists who can sort of fly under the radar and adjust to aspects of society enough to get by are still struggling in major ways on a day to day basis. Of course now every identity-void astrology chick with a new hair color every week also claims level 1 autism despite having none of the core struggles and instead displaying tons of completely noncharacteristic behaviors.

No. 1879636

>>1878246
There are aspies who literally can't attend school even as children because of their issues. I don't just mean lazy, I mean kids who will hit and scream and do anything in order to not do what is required of them and don't respond to conventional parenting techniques. Look up Pathological Demand Avoidance, it's a form of Level 1 Autism that seems normal but requires support and is hell on the victims and their families. This is why I'm sick of these tiktok fakers, even level 1 autists will have serious issues.

No. 1879919

In extreme cases you could call it malingering, but I hate people that self-diagnose.I was lucky to be diagnosed autistic as a woman at a very young age. With the whole trend of being 'autistic' nowadays it just makes me feel alienated and upset.

I'm currently in my third year of college and don't talk to anyone in my classes but I've heard people just nonchalantly mentioning being autistic, doing "autistic" things and I was shocked. Like it's enough to see all the stupid stereotyping online, but to hear it in real life was absolutely jarring.

Of course through text it's going to sound like I'm super upset or enraged but I'm more just annoyed. I couldn't be close or friends with someone who self-diagnosed mental disorders specifically. I kind of understand health anxiety and worrying you have some kind of serious ailment, but this is just damaging to people on the spectrum.

No. 1880696

>>1879919
>I'm currently in my third year of college and don't talk to anyone in my classes but I've heard people just nonchalantly mentioning being autistic
Are you sure they are not actually autistic? You said yourself that you don't even know these people.

No. 1884642

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Autism.

This is an example of how autistic people and their wranglers perpetually paint themselves as victims.

This is a very good example of how the media and radlibs like to present autistic people as victims.

The autistic mind believes that just because they don't experience the world in the same way as others, that they are 'above' basic decency and norms, exempt from societies rules.

Having autism does not inoculate you from the law, and calling a person in a position of power a lezzer is a pretty outrageous act of aggression, autistic or not, and reflects that she has likely been given no boundaries at home or school. See how the language has been carefully arranged to excuse this insubordinate, spoiled girl. 'Dragged' - it's called being arrested.

Autism does not make you the victim in every situation.

No. 1884649

>>1884642
do you think literally every sentence you say is so smart and important it deserves its own paragraph?

No. 1884652

>>1875211
My bpd bf was like this, poor guy. They genuinely can't help it.

No. 1886867

>>1884652
Doesn't mean that we have to deal with them thought. They should perish.

No. 1897255

I get so annoyed with schizophrenics. I know they can't help it so part of me feels bad but when they start going off about how a blade of grass on their windshield is a message left for by government agents to freak then out or some shit I want to grab them by the shoulders and ask why they think they're so important

No. 1897263

>>1897255
When they start going off about celebrities or political figures I immediately write them off and assume they are just stupid I can at least respect schizos that have some sort of logic to their delusion but if you really think you have some sort of link to Putin you are so deranged you aren't even a person to me I won't even consider you worthy of engagement

No. 1897337

I absolutely despise ana-chans. I've been through various group therapies and support groups for women suffering from an eating disorder and they're always the worst to deal with. They always want ass pats and sympathy for being ana but never want to actually work through their issues. Some of the worst ana-chans I've met would have this superiority complex towards women with other eating disorders like bulimia or binge eating disorder. They would look down on us like we're hysterical pigs who couldn't control their appetite like they could, despite them throwing a fucking tantrum when told to eat a bowl of pasta. I know there's an overlap with cluster b and eating disorders but for fuck's sake they're in the top 10 of most insufferable women I've ever met. I only have sympathy for the ana-chans who are actively recovering or the ones that are healed.

On a different note I hate how people shit on women for daddy issues when men with daddy issues barely function as human beings. Not to blog too much but my dad has fucked up daddy issues and even admitted to me and my siblings that the reason he treated us like shit was because his dad did and wanted to remember his dad by acting like him (for context my grandfather died when my dad was in elementary school). Funny how my dad thought that abusing his kids would be a great way to honor his late father as opposed to doing literally anything else.

No. 1897384

>>1897255
They're very self obsessed by focusing on their delusions and their reality at all times. Everything comes around to them them them, you can't say anything without them thinking 'Oh you mean ME and my wonky ideas?!?' no bitch, calm down. Walking on eggshells around them is so tiresome. Obviously it's part and parcel to the diagnosis, but it makes it impossible to be in any sort of meaningful relationship with them.

No. 1898242

>>1897255
>I get so annoyed with schizophrenics. I know they can't help it
Same. My neighbor is undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenic that suspects everyone in our house (an apartment block) to be witches. Before that, she was obsessed with robbers and just generally was hostile and suspicious. She's not just mentally ill though, she's always been a shitty person, and the combo is infernal (which honestly doesn't make me feel bad for being annoyed but I do try to be "wise" about it). Previously she suspected only one neighbor to be a witch, now it's my mom and grandparents and few other neighbors.
>suspects neighbors (including us) leave cursed rubbish on the floor near her door
>sometimes she swears loudly when she "finds" it
>sets it on fire and puts it out with holy water
>(sometimes there are burnt matches and water on the floor and it's a known fact she uses holy water)
>told my mom's friend that my grandparents used to go to the woods not for mushrooms but for herbs
>herbs they would use in black magic rituals
>that's why my grandma is so ill now (not because she's almost 90 and mortal)
>also told her we spill rice under her door (?)
>and leave water on the floor (exactly what she does)
>she "has hidden cameras everywhere and sees everything"
>she's convinced we can make her daughter that has diabetes feel worse with magic
>the daughter is "normal" adult woman btw but supports her delusions, looks like some shared psychosis shit
>the neighbor believes she has a great flat that we're jealous of so we dream of breaking into (the flat is extremely average)
>threatens everyone with her ex husband that works in parliament (=has great power), turns out he worked as an electrician in a parliament building and is actually dead for months now
>tells everyone that other neighbors or their acquaintances gossip about her and tell everyone she flies on the broomstick
>she's the one who's always been gossiping and making shit up, everyone just tries to avoid her like the plague because she's known to make scandals and badmouth everyone
Even though some of these things are funny, she's tiresome and annoying af and I seriously hope she won't get aggressive or decide she's a holy inquisitor and burn our apartment

No. 1898264

My mom is developing dementia and she denies its development which is a symptom of dementia. So that, if that qualifies as a mental disorder. She’s also BPD or some shit so she’s been fucked her whole life and is fine with slipping into insanity because that’s just within her comfort level.

So ultimately the BPDers. They’re so erratic and instantaneously volatile. I’m sure there’s reformed ones I’ve met who I’d never have guessed to have this illness and if you’re like that, I don’t mean you. I mean those who feel great being a malignant spirit have no plans to change.

No. 1898437

I hate autists. I'm fully aware it is not a "mental disorder" but they are so insufferable to be around. I hate that you can't make jokes around them. They are also the rudest people you will ever meet, and their excuse is something like "But I just don't get it!!! Why is it rude??? How could I know?" Bitch bffr

No. 1898440

>>1898437
I hate them too. They have no empathy or compassion for anyone else yet they expect it endlessly for themselves.

No. 1898484

>>1898437
Agreed. Also I can't stand health anxietyfags/hypochondriacs. Especially if they won't ever see a doctor because they're too scared and constantly just go on about being sick/dying. I guess they could qualify as munchies but I also mean people who genuinely think they're sick and not just faking for attention. It gets absolutely draining being around someone who thinks every time they stand up too quickly and get dizzy they have a brain tumour, etc, but won't ever go to the doctor to make sure nothing is wrong. I hate the term but it's basically hysteria, and it's soul draining.

No. 1898882

I feel horrible for people with OCD. But god it’s fucking hard when someone in your inner circle is struggling with it. My youngest sister has been having a terrible episode where she is paranoid our family is going to get in trouble with the government. She is constantly wanting me to call her throughout the day and needing my attention. At first I tried being nice so I did the dumb thing of reassuring her and kind of going along with her demands but that was the worst thing I could have done.

No. 1898892

>>1898882
I have OCD, as does my mom, so I both relate to this and fear this for myself. I think it’s why I’ve tried to manage my OCD so intensely with meds and therapy. I know my OCD is my own problem, so I try to keep it to myself as much as possible and treat the symptoms. I never want to be a burden on the people around me in the way that my mother was on me

No. 1898947

>>1898437
I don't hate all autists but I specifically hate the ones who try to diagnose every person they meet or every celebrity. Please stop.

No. 1899087

>>1898882
it's actually discouraged to reinforce their OCD behavior by providing reassurances - your sis needs help that only a doctor or medical team could provide. It could be as simple as an SSRI.

No. 1899143

>>1899087
I understand that now. At first it felt cruel of me to be annoyed that she was constantly calling me but now I’m realizing I’m doing her no favors. She is in therapy but she doesn’t participate because she finds it hard to open up (in her mind the therapist is going to get her in trouble with the feds). It seems really schizo at times but I think it just boils down to pure OCD. She is on anti-psychotics but it actually seems to have made things worse.

No. 1900238

>>1694969
It’s not retarded of you Nona, you were a child. Forgive yourself.

No. 1901117

>>1470488
just separated with my exhusband so for me it will be anxiety, anger issues, low self esteem and clinginess. he also had ocd and autism but they pale in comparison. him doing weird noises while counting all the switches in the house or switching all the power off before bed didn't even stand next to the outbursts he had when he thought his panic attack made me closer to leaving him. and it did.

No. 1903652

>>1898437
Autists are impossible, they'll be rude any chance they get but if you disagree with them once you're suddenly a bad person. Every one I've known was completely self obsessed and of course it was all ~societies fault~. Also the fucking embarrassment of having them talk to anyone else you know, it's always a bunch of oversharing and not a second of 'hi how are you'.

No. 1914591

Any disorder which has a paranoia component to it. Wether they bpd "abandonment issues" or some shitty delusions, this in particular is personal because I, as a person, absolutely hate to overexplain myself without reasons. "Where were you last night??" "Who were you with?" what are you, my mother?
Validate their paranoias and you're the asshole that makes them spiral down into some "See?? I KNEW IT!!!" bullshit and make up random scenarios, don't validate them and you're a liar. Cannot win either way. I've had too much of these little shits, since I'm apparently a BPD magnet due to my kindness but when someone starts acting an anxious parent only because they're fucked in the head, not because they're worried about me, I immediatly leave and I don't engage with people who say that they have abandonment issues because they view every personal space of yours as abandonment and I don't want to waste my energy and time doing daily reports about what I did and where I went so they feel better, work on it, you childish little bitch, grow up. One time I was out with my nigel on our anniversary and my sister called me deep in a episode (she's almost 30) screaming and crying because she couldn't come with me and why did I leave her alone at home and such. She doesn't even live with me, she was pissed at the lack of attention and viewed it as me escaping from her or something and in the end, that's what I did. Self fulfilling prophecy.

No. 1914599

>>1914591
My ex was kind of like this, except instead of wanting to know where I'd been he NEEDED to know what I was thinking. He was obsessed with the idea of me being secretly antisemitic, or that I had deep secret thoughts I was hiding from him. It's so exhausting when someone won't let you just… exist.

No. 1914654

>>1898440
Jumping on this to say that I absolutely hate when some (well, mainly autists) claim that they are actually more empathetic than anyone because they get upset over some social issue they only know of on social media, for accepting trans people and feeling bad for hurt animals or something. Having a bleeding heart doesn't really console the family and friends they mistreat and abandon the moment people break any of their own made-up rules.

No. 1914717

>>1914654
As an autist I agree. I feel like should disagree in some kind of "not all autists"-way but that's a given and whenever people hate on autists for valid reasons I just agree because yeah those things are fucking annoying even to other autists lol

As an autist you kind of automatically have to deal with more autists than the average person, and some of these people are a nightmare. It's annoying when I'm expected to coddle a disgusting moid autist because "he's like you, you of all people should be compassionate and nice to him" and dear god do I HATE when people try to set me up to date an autist moid just because we're both on the spectrum. I had a group therapist (for autism obvs) try to set me up with the only male around my age (most were older adults and quite chill) because that guy was sooo lonely and sad and needed a girlfriend and I was… female. I agreed to befriend the guy even though he seemed like the least nice/interesting person in the room and guess what - he ended up being a shitty troon enby who stalked me and my family for a year when it turned out I'm an evil terf. I will never forgive the therapist for forcing an actual dangerous male into my life when she knew I was vulnerable.

No. 1914868

>>1914654
A lot of autistic people say that about themselves and i do not think they are lying. Masking requires you to have some self awareness to how your behaviour affects others and it's something only highly functional autistic people can do successfully.

No. 1914931

>>1914591
This is semi-related but has anyone noticed an increase in people experiencing paranoid psychosis? This is purely anecdotal but in the last 2 years I’ve known 3 separate people who have had anxiety induced psychotic breaks that they needed hospitalization for. Two of them were weed related though but funnily enough one of them experienced their episode after quitting weed.

No. 1914955

>>1914931
Yes and imo it's social media. I had normie friends who started sounding like full blown paranoid schizophrenics after doomscrolling too much during covid.

No. 1914994

>>1914868
It's technically not lying if they believe it, which they do because they are so lacking in empathy that they have no idea what level of empathy a typical person actually has.

No. 1915171

People who act like uwu trauma makes them interesting are so insufferable. You'll know how sad and horrible their life is and that you should feel bad for them before you even know their name. I don't think it's a disorder by itself but people like this usually have zero personality outside of acting like angry teenagers.

No. 1915209

When people who already have mental problems use weed, shrooms, LSD or alcohol, etc to "let some steam off" and then give themselves physical and mental symptoms. Like who would had seen it coming right.

No. 1916136

>>1914868
It's mainly the hypocrisy of refusing the hard work of empathizing with people in their actual life and showing up for them, because they do actually have different life experiences and might be harder to relate to or understand, but then share videos on how being autistic is hard because they're more empathetic than the people around them (the ones that try their best to be part of their life) because they don't want to listen to their rant on their special interest that happens to be X or Y societal/gendie question.

No. 1916192

>>1914654
I hate this, too. I think it's just the same emotional instability, poor self control, and solipsism that affects weak "nice guy" "empathetic" men. The people who say this after acting like asses to other people don't have empathy for other people, they're just self-pitying and have poorly controlled emotional episodes. I can cry at shitty TV shows when I have PMS, that doesn't make me a more empathetic person.

No. 1916211

>>1914994
>they are so lacking in empathy that they have no idea what level of empathy a typical person actually has.
This has SOME truth in it, but isn't actually true. While most people who claim to be overly empathic actually aren't (and i swear most of them aren't even real autists…) there is a true subset of autists (mainly female) who ARE overly empathic, but not in the way the "fakers" claim they are. They typically do not even know they are "overly" empathic because they - like you said - don't know it's not normal compared to a normal person. They're incredibly gullible and easy for people (men) to take advantage of because they can't tell when they're being lied to. I have personally never met anyone like this who is high-functioning, and I don't wanna shill the idea that all autists are "like children" but this subset really do have a childs level of understanding of a lot of social things.
Like if you tell a child dropping their favorite teddy bear on the ground hurts the teddy they'll cry and feel awful for the teddy, even though us adults know an object doesn't have feelings so it's fine. They end up assigning strong feelings where they shouldn't, because their autism doesn't know the appropriate level of empathy to assign so puts it at "max level" when it shouldn't.

No. 1916252

>>1916211
Empathy is "the ability to understand and share the feelings of another." Inventing feelings out of thin air and assigning them to other people is not empathy. It's just another way to ignore the actual feelings of other people.

No. 1916276

>>1916211
I'm not saying all autistic people lack basic empathy, but what you describe with the childlike approach to strangers and manipulators sounds more like naivety. So the difference isn't really that other people don't feel bad for the genuinely suffering, but they see through thinly-veiled manipulation, while they take advantage of the naivety of autistic women.

No. 1918238

I know everyone says this, but I fucking hate narcissists. I don't care that they exist and it pisses them off. Useless, argumentative fools, even psychopaths are better.

No. 1927265

Sometimes I think about how living with a cluster B disorder is so miserable and loser mentality because it's pretty much
>oh please PLEASE give me attention! I only live if someone gives me attention! Can you please give me attention? Without attention I will die! I depend totally on attention! I am only a reflection of the people around me! I have no personality and that's why I live off attention! Can you please notice me? Validate me? Please???
The other clusters despite being equally disruptive, they're not as annoying as them and while I know that everyone in the cluster B is dangerous to sensitive people because they attivate their saviour complex, I can't help but laugh at their rabid search of attention. Even children don't like that much attention, they are mentally handicapped on the biological level.

No. 1927267

>>1927265
Any attention is Crack to them regardless of how negative.

No. 1931552

>>1637083
>when they pretend they have "autistic habits" that are only present in children and in low functioning autists

Related, the high functioning aspie type women/tifs with clear comorbid BPD who pretend their BPD rages and public self harm are meltdowns of the type only present in children and low functioning autists.

No. 1932657

Cluster b personality disorders especially BPD and NPD and the type of C-PTSD and PTSD that makes others trauma dump and act like cluster b's. I stay away from those types. I also understand that most people with PTSD or C-PTSD aren't that way but the ones that are, I wonder if they have a comorbid cluster b personality disorder.(newfag)

No. 1933383

I honestly didn't think that "BPD Autistics" were real, and now this lady in my hobby is making me eat my words. She's somehow a perfect mix of attention-seeking, competitive, unsympathetic to others, socially unaware, obnoxiously NLOG, and hostile to anyone that she can't wrap around her finger. She spent 20 minutes deriding women in the hobby chat the other day and got snippy with the one woman who contradicted her. I've genuinely never met a BPD lady with so little social awareness and the sort of blunt "Well, you should be doing this" that I see in myself and other autists. Baffling.

No. 1933865

I would understand if somebody couldn't stand autists or paranoid disorders. I'm a lot especially I have some needs that are called "moderate support needs" and the fact I'm always paranoid of things almost constantly.

Anyways, I think I can't deal with some people who have BPD and PTSD. And for the latter, I'm talking about the over sharing type, as most people with PTSD I know don't talk about what happened like they do. And both can be abusive as hell. I've unfortunately dealt with it. I don't hate everyone with PTSD and BPD or even hate anyone at all, but some of them seriously need help.

No. 1934028

>>1614974
The official clinical answer? Yes, BPD's can feel genuine love and emotion, just not towards people. They have a psychopathic persona that can easily overpower their ego structure the second you, as a real person, interfere with the you that they've constructed in their heads by simply … well, not acting in exactly the way they think you should. Think of Gollum from lord of the rings. He's pretty much what being a borderline is like; they have two completely distinctive personalities that don't come into contact within their psyche.

So, while they may love you one moment, that love isn't for you … it's for how you make the borderline feel. Their love is directed at the fact that when they're around you, and you're expending energy keeping them calm, they feel at peace and is if they can function. And indeed, they can function pretty well when someone is parenting them. When you fail to protect them from their own emotional instability is when the psychopathic personality comes out, and it's usually modeled after their mother.

The reason borderlines have this weird behavior is because their parents, again the mother in 99.99% of cases, parentified them. Which means the mother made the child into her parent by presenting them with adult responsibilities. As a consequence, BPD's are desperate for a parental figure to help them emotionally mature. It's why they go completely mental if you act like anything other than a doting mother.

No. 1934100

>>1934028
so it's basically retarded narcissism lol like spoiled children
>"Act like I want!! Do as I want!! Act right so I can feel safe!! Be the actor in my little mental theatre!! Or I'm gonna kms!!!"
Just do it lol

No. 1934110

>>1934100
in my experience it was not 'i'll kms', it was 'i will wreck your shit'. externalized threats vs. internalized, i suppose.

No. 1934146

>>1934138
>they will often literally keep trinkets or pictures of partners close at hand to remember not to cheat on them
This is so bleak.

No. 1934147

>>1934123
ayrt and sure, I know it's on some deeply fucked level and I was in a relationship with a BPD moid for 10 years.
I felt like a parent, I felt in charge of his emotions, constantly and that made me realize that I never want to be a mother and I know, I know that babies literally die without attention, but they are babies. They don't have the tools to be independent. BPD people can. They can go to therapy. They can learn self soothing techniques. They can learn to get up of bed and wash their crusty ass. They can learn that people are their own person. They CAN. If they refuse, it's not my business.
I've endured cheating accusation when I went out for groceries, I've endured being called cold when I was tired and needed some alone time (I think I'm on the spectrum on some degree and I think that that was a playing factor in the whole relationship, will talk about that later), I've endured being called a bitch when I didn't want to argue at fucking night when I was the only one working in the house and needed rest. I've endured abuse and being molested while I was sleeping because "Well I have my needs and you always say no!". I've endured anything. Now I don't and I won't and I can't anymore.
As I said, I'm probably on the spectrum, not yet diagnosed but I want to investigate this shit and I realized something:
1. What really made me go crazy was his constant beating around bushes. I consider myself pretty understanding, like I rarely judge people and if I do it's not personal, but more like a moral thing, for ex. I heavily dislike kinky people but as long they don't touch me/manipulate others into sex is fine like go fetch your stds but keep that shit away from me and he KNEW. He claimed to know me better than anyone else and he constantly gave me mixed signals. Something was wrong? Instead of talking, he wanted me to read his mind. I'm pretty straight forward, like if you say shit like "it's nothing." then it's nothing, full stop. When I said "okay" at his "it's nothing", he went full retarded meltdown saying that I was a cold piece of shit, rotten narc to the core while I literally asked 2 seconds prior if he was okay.
2. I'm very sensitive to stimuli, mostly sounds and touch. I don't like loud noises, I don't like to be touched. He constantly played videogame music and played his synth keyboard, when I asked to stop for 1-2 hours (the time I needed for a nap/unwind), again, another rage fit. How dare I, being so inconsiderate! And of course, when I'm in that sensory overload, touching felt painful to me.
"Omg nona, why won't you cuddle me?? Am I dirty? You don't like me anymore?"
"No moid I need some time alone because I came back from a very stressful shift (retail)"
"Then you don't like being with me??"
That was a whole new problem that he made up. Tiring.
3. I ended up in therapy due to a heavy loss in my family and started having panic attacks. He would trigger them on purpose.
"Well, this means you can control them, right?? Why even go to therapy if you can control them?"
When I asked him to also go, because on top of his narcissism there was a depressive component where he would leave rotting food in the kitchen sink and ofc I had to clean it like his mother, he cried and screamed to the point I was afraid of my life that "Well! How do you dare say that I'm crazy!!"

All of these mixed signals really fucked up my brain. Blogposting aside, I'm not trying to armchair but if an almost 30 y/o person can be so fucking self centered then it's totally a narc component that I refuse to justify. I loved him a lot and right now if he killed himself, I wouldn't care, not the edgy "i do not care" but it would be like hearing about a stranger dying. Not my problem, it's not like he had a personality to begin with but he played a lot on my anxiety. Oh, how many threats of suicide, if only they were true….
Right now I'm trying to heal but I hate that now I can't seem to love and any love I receive I view it as suspicious because "what if that person is being nice to me to trap me?"
As I said before, as long I'm not involved I do not care, but now I care about myself. These people need to be removed from society because I'm not the first and won't be the last and me being a victim of this type of shit is more than enough.

No. 1934248

>>1934214
>Borderlines have no continuity of self from day to day
That's also why a good chunk of them claim to also have DID? Like I see why they would claim it, it just baffles me. I think that DID is a major form of BPD doe, just my ignorant ass talking but they overlap a lot.

No. 1934301

>>1934138
>they will often literally keep trinkets or pictures of partners close at hand to remember not to cheat on them
Do you have a source for this claim?

No. 1934315

>>1934307
>An education on the subject
As in actual degree or ”I’ve watched a lot of youtube”?

No. 1934331

>>1927265
It's hilarious how they are more bothered by being ignored than by being hated on.

No. 1934334

>>1934028
That's an interesting insight into their psyche.

No. 1934348

>>1934342
so are you describing these symptoms of the most extreme/clear cut diagnosis types? because i really can’t imagine every narcissist actually wanting to die from being alone for half an hour

No. 1934415

Mental illness that make men obsess over finding a GF and turn into stalkers upon rejection. Also porn/ sex addiction. Yuck.

No. 1934642

>>1934348
Obviously that anon is either describing the most severe cases, or are pulling facts from their ass.

I would like to remind anons that even though someone writes huge text walls with fancy words does not mean they are right or educated. There have been 0 sources to all these tall claims, other than a vague ”an education on the subject” and a claim Youtube is basically the same as formal education. An actual professional on the subject could show peer reviewed journals to back up all the claims, or at least some of them.

No. 1934863

>>1934826
NTA - Thank you for supplying your sources. You can't really blame someone for being critical of non sourced claims especially on today's Internet when everyone just pulls things out of their ass to make a 2hr long deep dive about things they don't know shit about.

Not to armchair you, but you seem very insecure or at least combative about what is a very reasonable response. This reads like using your education as a shield to criticism. You are clearly very learned and are probably used to being the expert, but again, it's normal and healthy not to just believe everything you read. Many people use "fancy words" to try to give themselves legitimacy,if you've been online you know this as well. Not to be ironic in a thread like this but you'd probably do well to introspect a bit on that. You sound like the kind of psych in training who goes so strictly by the books that the contest what a patient says because it's not in the book. B/W facts like "99% of BPDs do this because of this reason" are literally impossible to ever prove, even if it's a frequent trend. And don't accuse me of defending BPDs here, it's just the example you gave.
That's all I really have to say. You're really defensive.

No. 1934865

>>1934826
Same anon

>Was it because they were too male sounding? Is being right simply too male brained? Is using logic beyond the pale of woman? How do you know I'm not female? Is it simply because my posts was too intellectually grounded? Am I too smart to be a woman?


You are just projecting really hard and reacting really strongly to understandable criticism. I'm an autist so if this sounds condescending I genuinely don't mean it that way, but you should address this because your post reads like it eats at you a lot. It's not that you're smart it's that everyone thinks they're smart without actually being so. You seem to be, but remember too that you're not the only one to whom these books and sources are available. You're very smart but you're also 1 in a million women who is very very smart.

No. 1934943

>>1934929
>I'm not insecure, I'm disgusted. I spent a good hour or so writing those posts, enjoyed my time dojng so, hoped the information would be useful to those who have suffered because of narcissism or borderline, and they were censored because … they were too on topic? I put too much effort into it? I cared to try and provide useful information on the subject matter of the thread itself?

But you weren't censored. You deleted your own posts, didn't you? You were asked to provide sources, which was reasonable, but you also went off on feeling like you were being punished for being too smart, or knowing what you were talking about.

Nonas were ribbing you (which is to be expected, you're on lolcow) but ultimately they were asking for sources because people talk out their ass constantly about things like psychology. You showed your insecurities in ways I don't think you meant to. You weren't being censored. It's not about censorship at all. No one was trying to shut you up.

No. 1934946

>>1934929
Another thing you have to remember is that despite your noble efforts (and I genuinely mean that, no sarcasm) you cannot be upset that something you chose and volunteered to do did not land. I found your posts interesting but also very heavy handed and preachy. You were the expert in the thread. You then provided sources. That's great. Your demeanor and insecurity are still mirror like in their clarity.

No. 1934959

>>1934943
No, a mod/janny deleted them.

Why would I delete my own posts lmao?

>You showed your insecurities in ways I don't think you meant to. You weren't being censored. It's not about censorship at all. No one was trying to shut you up.

Uhh, yeah, sure, you got me. I'm sorry for losing my temper and becoming super insecure. You're right. I need to take a long look at myself.

Thank you.(moid)

No. 1934963

>>1934959
That's fair– I thought it was a strange move, so that makes sense to me.

Genuinely,all the best to you

No. 1934970

>>1934110
>I’ll wreck your shit
Sounds like a scrote with BPD, BPD-chans are usually the type to pass out with alcohol poisoning or take all their psych meds at once

No. 1935030

I honestly wonder how many people (especially women in my observation) who self-diagnose autism really just have BPD alone. The specific type who relishes in behaving like a child and identifies deeply with infantilizing themselves, chooses not to learn social skills or control their meltdowns, etc. because the autism label lets them tell themselves all of these behaviors are innate and unchangeable and not poor behavioral and coping habits they’re choosing not to work on. The BPD trait of unstable/nonexistent sense of identity would make autism and its associations with being a unique social outcast a very appealing identity to hang onto, too. Statistically it seems very likely to me, a few prevalence stats place high functioning autism at 0.5%-1% of the population and BPD at 2.5%-5%.

No. 1935181

>>1934943
>> No one was trying to shut you up.
I was by trying to change the subject with a different post. The BPD sperging was annoying and dragging on.

No. 1936052

>>1935030
I feel that yes, autism is harder to dx in women because all the studies have been done to moids, but women tend to claim autism to avoid the BPD stigma. The autism label lets them be obsessed with something/someone and have mental breakdows without being seen as crazy, just a little spicy in the head. I've yet too see a woman who claims autism that is very picky with food, has a neuro disability like dyslexia, dyxpraxia, dyscalculia, is very sensitive to sounds and stimuli (most of them claim to be sensitive to sounds when in reality it's shit like explosions, alarms, nails on chalkboard type of shit, stuff that annoyes everyone) and has problems fucking socializing. These women that claim to be autistic have a shitton of friends and I'm not saying that autistic people don't have friends but it's really hard to connect with them unless you have some kind of autistic friend group which is statistically impossible. I feel that most of the times, these diagnoses gets mixed up a lot, like I'm pretty sure that half of autistic dx men are just bpd men that didn't go full retard fit on their therapists.

No. 1936495

>>1936052
Ayrt, you are onto something with the bpd/autism mixup in men too. I’ve been in friend groups with four autistic men at different points in college, three childhood diagnosed and one adult diagnosed. Purely anecdotal and not to discount the whole concept of adult diagnosis, but the first three were traditional awkward loner types who came across as dorky to somewhat offputting but ultimately goodhearted people, and the fourth was an attention seeking sex pest absorbed in his own 2deep4u sadness who proudly showed off his cuts and the knife he used and constantly bragged how he banged some girl in almost every public spot on campus we hung out at.

No. 1936842

Sorry for being cringe nonnies but does anyone have any good stories about how DBT/emotional regulation therapy helped them?

No. 1936850

Autistic moids have to be put down. Enough said

No. 1937122

>>1936495
I think it doesn't help that autism is such so vague as a diagnosis that it's easy for everyone to claim it if they don't identify as normies. We should stop to accept that everything is a "spectrum" so people who want to feel special claim their space in a restricted community, like being a troon, being autistic is not properly define and that brings people with just one symptom that conveniently overlaps with other shit to claim to be in that community.
Afaik, autism is defined by narrow interests, trouble socializing, neurodevelopmental disorders, sensitivity to stimuli, lack or limited empathy (narc or depressive style), flat expressions, trouble in self expression, anxiety and frustration (due to people not understanding how autists work) and stunted maturity. Not intelligence, maturity.
Basically what spicy normies and people that do not want accountability do is:
>Omg I like anime and it's my main hobby, I'm also an introvert so I'm autistic!
While ignoring everything else like mood dysruption, narc tendencies etc etc.
The more people insist and stuff is a spectrum meaning that you don't full need all the symptoms, the more people tend to identify with whichever stuff is trendy. Even if the existence of DID is debatable, take a look on how many people claim it just because they have an internal monologue and are traumatized (endo system also claim that you don't NEED trauma, despite being the very first symptom) which is something that like 90% of the people are. The only people who claim "bad" conditions such as schizophrenia, psychosis, suicidal shit, addiction etc are internet munchies, the same type that fakes cancer, and is often comorbid with an attenion seeking component (look out Tuna Slater for example).
I think that in a few years for now there will be studies on how the internet worsened the attention seeking patterns of some people and filled the psych wards with them, with no real cause underneath other than wanting to feel special and unique due to the hyper individualism shit that we are witnessing.

No. 1937417

>>1936052
Well, autism actually does have very different symptoms between men and women.

Female aggression is self-directed whereas male aggression is other directed.

>The autism label lets them be obsessed with something/someone and have mental breakdows without being seen as crazy, just a little spicy in the head.

I mean, I would disagree. Autistic men are virtually incapable of reproducing. Unless you're willing to discount the opinions of women entirely. Little bit sexist, honestly, that you think only male opinions matter.

No. 1937452

>>1937417
>Little bit sexist, honestly, that you think only male opinions matter

Where did you cherry pick that? My point was that the majority of women (tifs included of course) that claim autism online, the ones that are verbal about it, most likely don't have it and claim autism only to avoid personality disorder stigma. They read the definition of autism online, see that includes "meltdowns" (bpd splits) "special interest" (bpd personality of the month) and "trouble socializing" (bpd favourite person push pull shitnamics) and "anxiety". They only pick the overt traits and not stuff like the actual neurodevelopmental disorder. You can see the autism/bpd in males because they have no shame in acting out in public and overall being piece of shit (I wonder what's the stalking ratio in between men and women) but in female it's much harder and since they're afraid to be seen as instable and get treated for bpd, they brainrot themselves on tiktok claiming autism and saying "Well, that's not an illness! Not a disorder! Just what I am!".
And that's the fault of people not studying effectively autism in women.
Dunno where did you get the whole "Then only moid opinions are relevant??"
Waffles and pancakes, nona…

No. 1937539

>>1937452
First ayrt on the autism/bpd topic, no clue what they’re on about, my brain can’t even piece together what they’re trying to argue. Great reply, you put words to what I was thinking exactly here. Matching more BPD traits to self-diagnosed autistic traits, and pointing out the superficial social trait vs deeper neurodevelopmental issue distinction.

No. 1940517

We need a proper slur for those 20+-year-old BPD grown women who still get into online discourse about "problematic" media and the like and fetishise their "beautiful princess/pussy disorder" while basically abusing the shit out of everyone they touch

No. 1940539

>>1940517
No we don’t, we need a proper slur for autistic/mentally delayed men who are able to rape and hit women and the twitterfags who defend them. BPD women will never be as awful as mentally ill men, period.

No. 1940891

>>1940539
Agreed

No. 1941729

>>1940539
How about both, easy

No. 1941731

>>1940539
samefag but I notice over half those men aren't even mentally ill or delayed, they're just moids. A man could grope and bite a woman and underage twitter users would defend him saying "aww but he's probably just autistic and stims/expresses affection like that" even if the victim called the police or screamed to stop. If an autistic woman did the same thing and out of "affection", she'd be crucified in a mental institution.

No. 1942054

People with PTSD are draining and aggressive.

No. 1942328

>>1942054
I constantly see people diagnosed with CPTSD complaining about BPD and it's funny because every single person I've met diagnosed with either have acted incredibly similarly, both having issues with maintaining relationships, drugs, and impulsive behaviors. I feel sorry for both groups but they can be fucking insane and shitty people.

No. 1942537

I notice a lot of women with BPD traits get better within mere months of leaving the toxic moids or their families they surround themselves with. It can be much worse, yes, but sometimes the treatment is as simple as that.
In my teenage years I was pretty bpd, in retrospect it was more just being a teenager but that shit outgrew so easily the moment I moved out.

No. 1942645

Whatever mental illness that makes them think you're the one who's mentally ill. A moid I dated once was hellbent convinced I had a case of NPD. He wasn't trying to claim it so he could shift the blame and run away, he genuinely believed it. It fucked with me for a while to the point where I truly believed I was narcissistic as well, despite barely fitting even the basic traits of wanting attention or grandiosity. He eventually left me trying to have the last word and said something along the lines of "well I'm a good person unlike you" and that I'd never change due to my supposed personality disorder that I don't even have. Projection, whatever it's called.

No. 1942658

>>1942328
I absolutely agree. I understand not everyone with PTSD is like that, but my ex was. She was also abusive to me and started a smear campaign against me for a whole entire month to the extent where I had to change my number due to her brother harassing me. Also a former friend of hers had to cut her off due to her toxic behavior. She even acted like this before she was friends with somebody with BPD whom I blocked her on everything as well.

No. 1942690

A lot of posts here about borderlines blowing up on you for the slightest things, but has anyone dealt with a borderline who didn't have the guts to communicate shit?
They'll stonewall or block you (and unblock you 5 minutes later) for texting them slightly "off" and never even have the guts to tell you straight up what you did wrong. The only thing they can do is give off the most subtle passive aggressive cues and then also get mad you can't pick those up.
The ones that are slightly self-aware (self-aware enough to use their disorder as a crutch, but not actually change, basically) or know therapy terms will insult you, imply you're some horrible evil person, all the while saying "hope you have a good day <3" to paint this awful messiah facade.
In my experience, they love how people dote on them but pretend to be humble, and love to tell you what you are and who you are as if they even know anything about themselves and their absolutely empty identities.

No. 1942723

>>1942328
They're the same thing most of the time. The field of psychology just isn't ready to admit that it's been diagnosing female child abuse victims with untreatable personality disorders all this time.

No. 1942774

>>1942328
I think both groups overlap with symptoms, but it like walking on eggshells for both.

>>1942658
I'm so sorry you were abused like that. No amount of trauma excuses shitty behaviour.

No. 1942837

>>1942774
Thank you for your kind words anon. Yeah how she smeared me was I did a thing called reactive abuse. I know what I did was wrongs but for some reason, my ex always likes to play the victim. I also knew others like that years ago. For them, it's always somebody else's fault but never ever their fault.

No. 1942857

>>1942837
>>For them, it's always somebody else's fault but never ever their fault.

Seems that way

No. 1943314

Autistic males.

>obsessed with controlling how others perceive them

>helpless shitbabies who can't support themselves or get a job
>no friends because they're so insufferable
>think they're really smart but misunderstand basic shit because their 'knowledge' is all from youtube video essays rather than books
>full on manchild tantrums mirroring what a toddler would do

No. 1943315

>>1473560
Yes, they do. It's a death sentence. Esp if you're male.

No. 1945095

Why are gay men always a female narc’s biggest enablers? I knew two female narcs and both of them made sure to surround themselves with gay men that would attack you if you didn’t give the narc attention. Female narcs also are the biggest handmaidens, I knew one that tried to traffic girls that she thought were ignoring her.

No. 1945141

>>1942690
Latereply but I feel this so much. The bippies I've known were never too confrontational, they'd talk relentless shit about everyone in their life who was breathing wrong though.

No. 1945143

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Can't stand seeing people with gnarly self harm uncovered, specially if it's fresh, it seems so self centered "look at me" and uncaring towards everyone around them, you know you're making others uncomfortable and someone in the room might be sensitive to gore, just wear a goddamn shirt, most places are air conditioned anyway.
>boo hoo do i have to wear pants now because of something i did in the past?? im all better now !!
yes its called being mindful of others and living with the consequences of your actions
>w-what about burn victims or people with surgical scars!!
If you ever had surgery you'll know doctors advise you to keep it covered if you go out because of photosensitivity, hygiene and healing, and neither burn scars nor surgical scars look like self harm because cutters usually have the terrible habit of poking at their cuts which makes them looks distinctively worse and unhealed.

No. 1945193

>>1945143
People who suffered from self harm aren't going to go out in long sleeves and pants when it's summertime just because you think it's gross, they have to feel comfortable too

No. 1945298

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>>1945193
>when it's summertime
most places have air conditioning, i doubt your average bpdchan is working as a garderner or farmer and you won't die wearing linens instead of booty shorts
>they have to feel comfortable too
you're not owed comfort by making everyone else around you uncomfortable and making yourself the center of attention, you're being just as disruptive as weird troons wearing pigtails in public

No. 1945305

>>1945143
This is so unhinged, because I was at a bad place years ago and left myself scars I have to cover up? suck it up and stare at my seven stitches scar till you revolt into oblivion

No. 1945315

>>1945143
I feel the same but only for fresh cuts. Old scars I don't really agree but anyone cutting on their wrists or other areas knowing that they'll be exposed is doing it for attention and incredibly selfish.

No. 1945320

>>1945298
I don't like self harm scars as much as anyone but many things make people grossed out on human bodies not just scars. We'd have to wear a whole muslim woman cowering not to offend anyone with anything gross. Just don't look at the scars and if you do at least you'll see this is person not worth your time. In a way it's a good thing they show the scars, they are being visually honest to society.

No. 1945328

>>1945305
just saying you would if you weren't so selfish and self centered
>>1945315
I don't care if they're faded and not that visible but I went to uni with someone that had healed but very vividly red scars all over her arms and legs and it made one my friends who had a relative die in a car crash at the time so uncomfortable that we had to sit all the way on the other side of class.
>>1945320
I used to have the same general opinion but i had the situation above happen and it dawned onto me how insensitive it is towards people who may have experienced situations that involve gashes, blood etc that were not self-inflicted, you'd usually assume the regular ol' first world is gonna be pretty safe from exposed to stuff like that and then boom some terminally online psycho ruins your day

No. 1945343

>>1945328
Pay them to get their scars removed if you hate them so much

No. 1945345

>>1945328
you are the selfish, self-centered and nosy bitch here. Just don't go out of your way nosying and staring at strangers, focus on your own life because you sound like an unhinged freak.
Also
>thinking that others have to cater to your sensibilities

No. 1945364

Lack of empathy, although it's not considered a mental disorder in males.

No. 1945367

most cluster b’s try to ruin the lives of people who try to get away from them

No. 1945453

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Absolutely can't stand autism. Women with autism seem to fair better than men when it comes to interacting with them. But I can't stand the utter inability to get the most basic shit.
The worst cases sit there and do obnoxious bullshit after obnoxious bullshit and expect the whole picrel to be REAL but in reality any and everyone without autism wants these fucking spiders on society to fucking die, because compensating for their shortcomings is a drain on an already stressful life.
At least the ones irl have to be damned with masking so it's less obnoxious. Can still tell when something's off, but the constant eyes on them seems to reel them in. Online is a whole different story and they think it's cute. Fuck em.
nb4 'oooh they can't help' oh my god I don't care. Stay away from me if you have that affliction; I want nothing to do with trying to help handhold you through social interaction. Go bother someone else with your retardation. Shit.
I have too many autistic friends.

No. 1945478

>>1942690
you are right nona. my ex troon bpd bf only knew of handling conflict through exploding or silently festering in resentment for days on end. not sure if anyone else has had this happen to them, but my bpd ex would force himself to steal my hobbies and then resent me, saying that i demanded or made him get into them. there was one instance he refused to speak to me for days on end to the point where i was worried he killed himself because normally he couldn't go 2 days without talking to me without sperging out. i was messaging him and telling him if he needed support, i was there for him. meanwhile he was convincing himself that i was evil and "micromanaging" him because i told him in order to get better at a notoriously difficult video game he would have to use the practice mode. he never told me that this was what pissed him off, i only figured it out later. he was too busy jacking it off to yuri hentai to actually get good at video games, i assume this is common among bpd males.

No. 1945568

>>1945453
Are you sure you aren’t if you have so many autistic friends

No. 1945763

>>1945453
kek you just sound autistic yourself. autists travel in packs.

No. 1945842

>>1945143
Yeah, wearing a shortsleeve and then complain people stare at your scabby arm is so retarded. I feel pretty bad for people with scars from a long time ago tho. I have some on my thigh and I don't even consider wearing shorts because it's just embarrassing to me.

No. 1946461

>>1945568
>>1945763
Teehee, ha ha. It starts with me being nice, and feeling sorry for these poor bastards.
I'm retarded, definitely, but it ain't autism.

No. 1947052

>>1945143
i have a lot of self harm scars myself and you are completely right, i've been saying it for years. it's truly just attention seeking and especially if you're around teenagers or older children a lot you are straight up influencing them to cut themselves. no one who parades their tumblrina uwu battle scars around in public would admit this though because they all have bpd and see themselves as some heroic survivor figure that everyone should pity and even admire, because as bippies they still expect their self destructive behaviour to be rewarded somehow and become enraged if people refuse to reward them with asspats or god forbid suggest they stop being toxic retards. a lot of the replies you got for this post proves that they see themselves as the malala of mental illness and that they can't take responsibility for anything kek

No. 1947054

>>1945453
>but in reality any and everyone without autism wants these fucking spiders on society to fucking die
You sound like a piece of shit tbh. There are plenty of mental disorders I find annoying to deal with but never have I wished actual death on them. Most autists I've met haven't even actually been that bad, I'll take dealing with a social retard any day over dealing with a sexist normie man any day.

No. 1947062

>>1945143
Fuck off. My close friend has deep self harm scars all over her body from when she was a teenager suffering from severe mental illness. She isn't covering them, nor does she have to, and I'm so proud of her for being comfortable with herself now. She has the right to wear whatever she wants, and if it offends you you can just close your fucking eyes. Do you think people with severe burn scars need to cover up too? Self harm scars are just a physical consequence of mental illness, and deserve respect just like people with scars from any other illness or trauma do.

No. 1947063

>>1945143
Scarred nona here, had a very rough time growing up but if there's some thing I learned from being a True CutterTM is the immense shame and regret you feel right after. I cut for years, you wouldn't even tell because you don't want people to find out and to explain. That's one of the main things. I cut for years in hidden spots/spots that get almost always covered (near my ankle and on the side of the upper tight, it can be easily be covered with high waisted and swimming miniskirts) and when I'm around people with visible scars I feel this big disgust, I can't really explain how and why. I don't feel disgust for the scars, that would make me a hypocrite but I feel disgusted by their carelessness and attention seeking behaviour. Bippies know, and if they don't they're stupid as shit, that scars will stay there so they choose the best, most open spot because they romanticize it and want people to look at them. Cut your wrists? Arms? Attention seeking. That's it. Cosplay behaviour.
>>1945193
Oh please, self harmers know that they have to sacrifice comfort. It's been 15 years since I wore shorts and I live in south europe, I'm fine. That's why "we" choose hidden spots, anyone who cuts in places that almost always exposed are attention seeking, full stop. Your comfort stops when the other's comfort is at risk, when we are out to eat/bus/anything mundane, I don't want to see your gross scars. People judge any day by appearance and I will too. Self harmers feels safe in long clothing because their exposed skin makes them aware of the scars. They burn, the skill pulls, sweats…there's no good side of exposing scars unless you want people to notice them.
As someone who used to panic in the bathroom with baby oil to make the scar heal better because there were times that I went too far and didn't want to be seen as crazy by friends and family, I shame people with visible cuts and purposely bad healed scars. They deserve it, they're on the same level as addicts who post xanax pills or some shit.
>"B-but they don't have to feel shame!"
It's part of the behaviour, stop cosplaying disorders. Anything performative is shit anyway.
>"What about surgery scars/burns/incidents"
They don't look the same, self harm scars are usually patternish and in one, specific, handy place. Right handed people cut on their left side and viceversa. it's a choice? Shame.
You choose to cut and now are bitching about scars? Stop or save to remove them, cover up.
You teeth fell for drugs? Shame. Choice.
Lung cancer due to smoking? Shame. Choice.
Bald spots due to trico? Shame. Choice.

No. 1947064

>>1947054
>Thread is called "Mentall illness you can't stand"
>Gets mad when nonas post about mental illnesses/disorders that can't stand.

Why.

No. 1947065

>>1947063
I think you are massively projecting your own shame onto others and can't stand people being comfortable in their own "flawed" skin.

No. 1947066

>>1947063
pure retardation and projection. i've just discovered a new type of mentally ill person i can't stand. i truly hope one day you can get over this mindset.

No. 1947071

>>1947068
Wanting to live your life normally just like any other person despite your past struggles is not seeking attention. Constantly bringing up the scars and how mentally ill teehee you are would be. You judging other people suffering from the same issues as you do and not feeling shame is what's pathetic.

No. 1947073

>>1947065
Where did I say that I feel shame? I don't feel shame, I just know that people, like I do, don't want to see scars and I know that scars, esp. visible, red, scabby ones attract attention. I just want to live my life without people staring at me and asking me about my past choices, if you deny that shit you're either delusional or a histrionic person who will do anything for a crumble of attention. Pathetic.
Stop thinking that shit doesn't have consequences and your appearance isn't your business card to the world. Learn how what disorders imply before cosplaying them and then crying about m-muh scars!
People are gonna ask how you got them. People are gonna ask what did you do. People are gonna wonder what the hell you went through. If you are not ready for this, you might reconsider if that attention seeking behaviour is worth it, because no one is gonna come up to you like a prince charming, kissing your bumpy wrist like a shitty fanfiction and tell you "It's okay princess uwu You won't need to do this anymore!!". No one is gonna see your scars and say "Ohh, poor tormented soul! I can fix her!". No. People will think that you're gross. It's normal, we're hardwired against wounds but we can also tell apart accidental burn scars from self inflicted ones. If I'm near someone with a red stripy arm I'm gonna nope the fuck out because I just know that they're the type of person to use that shit against me. They're the ones that say "look what you made me doo bwaaahh!!"
Annoying.

No. 1947074

>>1947063
Gonna wear singlets this summer just for you nonnie xoxo

No. 1947075

>>1947073
All I read is
>I'm Not Like Other Cutters

No. 1947078

>>1947075
stop being a tiktok zoomer and read all before making shitty posts. Never said I'm a special cutter, in fact I'm well aware of that, I just wrote about how to differentiate attention seeking behaviour from actual coping self distructing shit. I'm sorry if this touched some sensitive spots on your attention seeking journey, I hope that you do better. I'm the first one to shit on my own behaviour, you could benefit from some self critique.

No. 1947079

>>1947063
Yeah I feel this hard. My bf says my scars are a turn on for him but it still feels like shit.

No. 1947080

>>1947065
>>1947066
>>1947074
>>1947075
Found the girl who used to cut for notes on Tumblr and now regrets it lmfao

No. 1947081

>>1947078
>>1947080
I've never cut myself not did I interact with tumblr self harm shit, I just can't stand some people think my friend should be ashamed of herself. Btw there are multiple anons disagreeing with you.

No. 1947083

>>1947081
Is "your friend" actively self harming? If so, why aren't you helping her instead of validating her behaviour? Why are you letting her do that shit to herself? Why are you going "omg yes queen show your cut arms!!!"?
Are you friend's scars old, healed? Is "she" healed? Cool, then don't address it. It can cause relapse. Don't talk about it. Act like they're not even there.
>Btw there are multiple anons disagreeing with you.
Disagreeing with what, talking about what something really implies? It's not like you have to agree, self harm behaviour is like this, period. Actual self harming, not attention seeking bpd shit. Also, like I care. You disagreeing with me won't make what I wrote less true.

No. 1947086

>>1947083
>"she"
…are you calling her a tranny for being comfortable with herself, wtf? As I said those scars are from when she was a teenager, making them over a decade old, and I did not know her then.

>Act like they're not even there.

That's exactly what I am doing and every normal person should do

No. 1947087

>Post about addicts being gross
"Ahah so true!"
>Post about cutters being gross
"Why are you judging??"
Why do people that justify shit come here anyway, like we're gonna make exceptions. Self harming in any way is gross, period.

No. 1947090

>>1947087
There’s a difference between an addict and a recovered addict.

No. 1947092

>>1947086
Nah nonna, I wrote "she" like that because why are you talking about a supposed "friend" lol, this sounds like "Uhmmm asking for a friend" typa shit.
>That's exactly what I am doing and every normal person should do
And then why the fuck are you replying, we're talking about people who actively do and then make it everyone else's problem. The post you replied to was talking about "esp. fresh scars", why can't you read holy cow, I only talked about people who don't want to break the cycle and then cry about the consequences. I bet that here there are also bpd nonnas who recovered and now can see how bad their behaviour was and can clock it from a mile away, I bet that in this thread there are recovered depressed people who don't want to engage with other depressed people anymore.
If someone walks around with bloody scars either they're very mentally ill to the point they're not aware of themselves (like people who don't wash themselves) or attention seeking and that's a mere fact. Old scars don't mean shit if the person isn't in that place anymore, chill.

No. 1947095

>>1947090
I think it's pretty obvious that is thread is not about recovered people, nonna.

No. 1947100

>>1947092
>this sounds like "Uhmmm asking for a friend" typa shit.
No, some people genuinely care about their friends

>The post you replied to was talking about "esp. fresh scars"

"Especially" does not mean "only". Even long since healed scars can be noticeable if the wounds were deep enough. I've seen people stare at her which makes me angry, and a person suffering from similar issues not having any compassion boggles my mind.

No. 1947103

>>1947095
Then why complain about people with old scars

No. 1947109

>>1947100
>I've seen people stare at her which makes me angry, and a person suffering from similar issues not having any compassion boggles my mind.

That shit is gonna always happen. Always. As I said you either stop caring or cover that shit up. I made the example about myself because since I have trouble going out and I want less shit as possible, for me covering them up is easier because I notice that people stare and I don't want to deal with that but can't you really blame them? Anything unusual stands out so you either have those two options or stay at home. Complaining won't change shit. People aren't gonna ask your friend the story of her life so they can't be less judgy, people see you once in their life time, think shit like "Weird/gross" and then hop off the bus and their day goes on. If that stuff hurts you, you gotta find some solution, because it's gonna always happen. People will judge your choices, always has been, always will be. No one thinks that cuts are beautiful and you have to accept that.

No. 1947115

>>1947109
>No one thinks that cuts are beautiful and you have to accept that.
Of course not, but people should act politely and not demand people with scars cover up, which was why this whole conversation started.

No. 1947119

>>1947080
I don't really care about it anymore, but I do find it funny that you have such strong feelings about people not covering up.

No. 1947128

>>1947115
old cuts, if taken seriously, usually heal in white stripes and are almost unnoticeable on pale people so that's not a problem, I don't have perfect vision myself so I doubt that that nona was talking about them. The ones who heal horribly are on people that refuse to take care of themselves and will continue to scar and pick that spot over and over and before getting to a point of no return/showing them off fresh for attention and often people notice. That's also why I said that I cut for 15 years but people can't tell, I know they're there and that's the main component of the true disorder.
Red cuts are usually fresh or healing and being around someone who actively self harms and doesn't see a problem with it is draining. Being around someone who walks around with a new cut everyday is draining. Being around someone who shows off her scars is draining and in cases of old scars, saying shit like "Look what I did in my past teehee" is top narc behaviour.
I trust more someone who covers them up/doesn't address them because it's symbolic for moving on but if someone walks around with a bloody zebra on their limbs it's not a good catch tbh, because it's usually people who hold themselves hostages and use their body to manipulate people.

No. 1947134

>>1947128
If the cuts were deep enough the scars leave very noticeable large bumps very visible even on fair skin tones, and especially if there are a lot of them they can be hard not to notice. I do agree walking around with bloody wounds and fresh scars is attention seeking, but I take it as a cry for help (I know anons hate this kek) and they should seek help accordingly with mental health professionals. Sadly that help is not always available.

No. 1947148

>>1947073
>People are gonna ask how you got them. People are gonna ask what did you do. People are gonna wonder what the hell you went through. If you are not ready for this, you might reconsider if that attention seeking behaviour is worth it
bippies want and expect people to ask them about their self harm and twauma because they think life is a netflix show starring them as the troubled MC who everyone cares about for no reason. and if you don't ask them they will tell you anyway kek. they have no regard for others, they just want to sperg about their life and receive oohs and awws from everyone around them at all times.
also, self inflicted self harm scars are not at all comparable to scars from fires, accidents, shootings etc. impressionable teens can see self harm and want to replicate it because it's a part of an emo image that attracts troubled teens, kids, whatever. every cutter, former or recovered, only started doing it because they were at some point exposed to it through media, real life or the internet. literally no one gets the idea to cut themselves without seeing it somewhere else first. this is why it's unethical to show off your self harm, at least in public spaces.
people hate to admit being victims of social contagions, just like trannies who insist they knew they were trannies since the day they were born and didn't just troon out because they fell for a fucked up trend on tumblr. self harm cows do the exact same shit and want to drag others down with them by shoving their mental illness in people's faces and calling it ~destigmatizing~

No. 1947157

>>1947148
ayrt and what people fail to understand is that humans are social animals. Humans need to feel to be part of something so claiming that most self harmers do it out of attention/being part of a group is totally correct, it's the hyperindividualism paradox: you want to be special so much that you end up imitating others. You want to be unique so much that you start to look for that uniqueness in others.
What brings others attention, will bring you attention and that's why people do shit.
It's been that way with anorexia, did, troonism, anything.
I admit that I started cutting because I saw that that was possible, there was a possible way to get a fast pain response from my body without banging my head on the wall and breaking my wrists on tables. "If I cut, I'll still feel in control of what I do with my body but the blood will come out quicker."
I think that right now I feel disgust because I know how that feels like and how awful that is. When I talk about this, esp. when I used to be in a self harm "support" group, usually youngings told me
>"Well, people don't have to suffer like you!! "
Then why the fuck are you cutting? It's not cute, people cut themselves to shift their pain source, not to give themselves pain and then acting surprised when that shit hurts, that's why anyone complaining about their self harm and consequences is a major red flag.
"I was stupid, time to move on, people will notice, fuck them." that's the correct way. Anyone who can't self reflect still needs some ward time and surely doesn't need access to the internet to engage with their shitty behaviour.

No. 1947234

>>1947052
Im scarred, I don't have bpd, I don't think myself as an hero or brave for surviving a mental illness, I don't want asspats as rewards.I don't talk at all about my scars and my mental state. I just want to live my life quietly in my corner of the world. Wear the clothes that I like and not define my life and personality around bad shit that happened years ago (btw I already have deal with the responsabilities and still dealing with the shame and regret). It's that so difficult to understand?

>>1947063
I have self harm scars in visible places because I wanted to be disgusting to scrotes and hated my femenine body due to sexual abuse. I don't think its fair that now when I made peace with my body I have to cover up because some people can't stay in their own biz.

>>1947073
People who ask are really rude and should learn manners. It's not my problem they weren't educated and I don't own them an explanation of my fucking body.

>>1947128
I have a healed cut with stitches and is very noticeable and other keloid scars. Still not gonna cover and limit my life due to past errors.

No. 1947244

>>1947234
if you just wanted to live laugh love quietly and unnoticed in your widdle corner of the world you wouldn't show off your emo scars in public or traumadump like this in the "mental illness you can't deal with" thread. that is attention/conflict seeking behaviour by all measures. no one can force you to be normal but at least be aware that your behaviour makes you a huge bpd cow.

No. 1947249

>>1947148
I'm sorry but I have BPD and I never liked people asking about my scars. My self harm ones that I did in my teens aren't visible enough anyway but I got one in my arm because of an accident and I always despise people asking me about it. I just want people to mind their business. I don't give a shit about attention.

No. 1947259

People who say "bippies" are mentally ill. You sound unhinged and you are infantilizing a condition, absolutely retarded. I don't give a fuck if you have BPD or not, get the fuck out.(lurk moar)

No. 1947263

>>1947234
>People who ask are really rude and should learn manners. It's not my problem they weren't educated and I don't own them an explanation of my fucking body.

This is such black and white thinking, are you sure you haven't bpd? You can't see the nuance. Kids will ask, not because they're rude, but because they kids and they don't know shit. Old people will ask, because they're worried and maybe they will think that you're being abused. People will stare. People. Will. Stare. You don't have much other options aside stop completely caring (and thus stop complaining here) or cover.
>>1947257
>infantilizing a condition
A condition that by definition revolves around being emotionally stunted as an infant stage where people who have it don't even understand basic object permanence? tf
Bippies are bippies, like retards are retards.(baiting)

No. 1947267

>>1947263
>This is such black and white thinking, are you sure you haven't bpd?
NTA but it says a lot about you when you reply to someone with "are you sure you don't have the modern day equivalent of hysteria"
>Bippies are bippies
That's not what it is called in the DSM-5. Opinion discarded.(infighting)

No. 1947277

>>1942690
My ex was like this. Went to his house on weekends on friday night and when I left on sunday morning, he would send me a wall of text listing all the bad shit I did and that pissed him off. I let it go once or twice because I thought he was burnt out for work but in reality he was a coward with a weird little prince complex, when I told him that it wasn't like that (he accused me of purposely leaving hair in his bathroom so he could waste time - my "punishment" for him for being too work obsessed…like he made up an entire scenario meanwhile my hair was falling because its long and breaks out a lot in windy days) he would throw an autistic fit via phone, blowing it up with notifs. One day I just stopped replying. Don't care if that triggered his ghosting and abandonment fear, in my country there's this old saying that goes "when you wash a donkey's head, you are wasting water and soap." so yeah fuck off. Sometimes I wonder how male bpds would survive if they lived completely alone, they would scream at the mirror.

No. 1947278

>>1947267
why are you even lurking itt, bippiechan?(infighting)

No. 1947279

>>1947267
>That's not what it is called in the DSM-5. Opinion discarded.
And? It's internet slang for bpd people in denial, no shit it's not in a medical research book? Are you stupid?(infighting)

No. 1947282

>>1947244
not covering up isn't the same as "showing off". if someone doesn't cover their acne with foundation they're not showing it off.

No. 1947285

>>1947282
Not the same thing, you can't control your acne, where it will show and how bad will be. Horrible example. You can control your self harm.
>"No I can't!"
Who's using the knives and choosing to self harm? Come on.

No. 1947288

>>1947285
But you can't make someone cover up and live in shame their whole lives just because they made mistakes due to mental illness as a teenager.

No. 1947291

>>1947288
And you can't expect people to not stare or judge. It's a shitty ouroboros. Stop caring about what strangers do and think.

No. 1947293

>>1947244
>>1947263
Now having a dialogue is traumadumping, attention seeking and bpd behaviour lmao. It's obvious you don't wanna held a real conversation about the topic. Maybe the bpd fag are you and someone with a self harm scar shit on your cereal or something.

No. 1947294

>>1947285
but how is it "showing off", showing off is if you're like "hey look at this". just having something on your body visible isn't showing it off. like you could argue anyone not wearing a full body niqab is showing off.

No. 1947302

>>1947288
>>1947294
yes, no one can force you to take other people into consideration, that doesn't mean you should be an attentionwhore anyway. also if you're displaying your cutting scars in public you don't have any shame in the first place, so you can stop strawmanning about being "shamed" and "forced" to cover up and comparing yourselves to oppressed muslim women in niqabs. the victim complex is real.

No. 1947306

>>1947291
>Stop caring about what strangers do and think.
Okay that's fair. That's something I can get behind on. But then, why are you and >>1947302 shitting on people who don't care to cover? They clearly don't care about what strangers think, like you suggested.

No. 1947308

>>1947302
Covert BPD behavior ass post. Get checked, maybe you're the one who wants attention nonny.

No. 1947310

>>1947302
I don't see how that's being an attentionwhore at all. it's not really that big a deal that just the sight of it would cause a shocked reaction. and I wasn't comparing it to oppression, I said that something being visible isn't the same as drawing attention to it. I also don't see why it's something to be ashamed of, if you're truly over it.

No. 1947312

>>1947310
>it's not really that big a deal that just the sight of it would cause a shocked reaction
Anon probably lives in the bible belt or around boomers because most people irl just look at chicken scratches / scars and don't give a shit. Anyone who gives too much of a shit about strangers on the street or at a cafe clearly is bored, most millennials were emo and tumblr normalized not being retarded about any type of scar anyway.

No. 1947320

>>1947302
Why do people who happen to have scars have to think what might get some rando triggered. Look away if it bothers you.

No. 1947336

>>1947306
why are you replying to different anons saying different things? i am not at all suggesting people with self harm scars should stop caring, on the contrary i think it's selfish to show your scars because it can and does influence people to do the same, something every cutter is aware of since none of them started cutting until they were exposed to it from some outside source.
cutters should admit to it being a dangerous social contagion and take personal responsibility by not showing their scars around randoms, especially where susceptible teens and kids can see them. for example, teachers shouldn't be allowed to show their self harm scars in schools. and no matter how you twist it, displaying self harm scars is asking for attention, and like other anons have already stated, you cannot expect people to not clock you as a bpdfag or demand they simply ignore or overlook evidence of severe mental illness when you're actively presenting it to them.

No. 1947341

>>1947336
Oh my god not everything is BPD behavior. You don't have to have BPD to self harm, there are loads of other mental illnesses too.

No. 1947363

>>1947336
>for example, teachers shouldn't be allowed to show their self harm scars in schools
Sure, in a professional setting. But then people in their regular ass lives won't be covering for you no matter how "attention whoring" you find it.

No. 1947383

>>1947341
It's the inability to put themselves in other's shoes while calling everyone else an attention whore and being obsessed with bpd what clocks that anon as an unchecked BPD haver themselves.

No. 1949185

has anyone else dealt with “flying monkeys” with a borderline or narcissist?

No. 1949203

>>1949185
No? What is that?

No. 1949207

>>1949203
ntayrt but imagine a crazy person in a relationship using their (ex)partner's friends/acquaintances as means of further manipulating/surveilling them

No. 1949226

>>1949207
That sounds retarded why would anyone waste effort on that?

No. 1949239

>>1949226
retards work in circles

No. 1949241

>>1947302
You triggered the self hating bpdchans itt

No. 1949265

>>1949207
My boyfriends ex's(diagnosed with bpd) friends(also diagnosed with bpd) are obsessed with me and constantly stalk my social media so they can report back to my bfs ex. I see them in my stories all the time. I mean it doesnt bother us at all, but it seems very tiresome to care all that much about a stranger, just because she is dating the ex of a friend. It wasnt a drama filled relationship nor breakup, he has never badmouthed her or anything, he just broke up with her then later moved on, so its all rather odd. It also seems really cruel towards my bfs ex really, why would any so called friends cause drama like that?

No. 1949296

>>1949265
some people like having stuff on others so they can manipulate their mood. once a manipulative person learns your triggers they will use it everytime to punish you. I've seen with BPD but also with normies who are simply manipulative (remember girls being manipulative doesn't mean someone is cluster B!!)

No. 1949385

>>1949265
I had an ex-friend do it too. She has people go out and harass her ex-friends. She hasn’t stopped for a long time

No. 1949879

Not sure if this fits here, but I'm seeing a bunch of TikToks recently by fathers and boymoms claiming their daughters are BPD or ASPD even though the kids are around the age of 10-14 maximum and crying about how hard it is to raise them. A hundred dollars says the fathers are sexually abusing them. Those kids are like 12, how could they have BPD.

No. 1949891

I think a lot of borderline men are groomers and predators. I suspect it's because their brain is in that arrested development, so they think they're mentally on the same level as the little girls they talk to. They tend to be "age-regressing" ddlg kink weirdos as well. And since they need to be eternal victims and the centre of attention, of course they'd go for vulnerable teenagers who'll listen to every whim they ask for.

No. 1949905

>>1949241
Again, not everyone who self harms have BPD and not everyone with BPD self harms.

No. 1949910

It surprises me how people here seem to think anachans are worse than bulimics. Maybe I'm biased because the most obnoxious and self obsessed person I've ever met was one (and a bippie, and a fakeboy) but bulimics are just as bad except for where they're worse.

No. 1950017

>>1949879
so many millennial parents (and some older gen z are parents of young kids at this point) are weird attention whores, last time i checked you can't formally be diagnosed with a personality disorder until 18 minimum because your personality isn't developed fully because your brain isn't. the minimum could be raised if anything.

No. 1950114

Online NPD LARPers. I think they're just edgy retards who never grew out of their edge phase online but it definitely is concerning when they post things like "I'm a multiple transsexual NPD pedophile, if you don't support paraphilias you're ableist". Not kidding, just saw someone proudly claim they're a pedophile.

No. 1950133

>>1950114
Real NPDs are unaware for a long time. Despite it being obvious.

No. 1950466

>>1949891
Related to this, I knew a borderline woman in her mid 20's who wanted to date a 17-18yo girl. Really creeped me out even more when she was on a dating app looking for teenagers.

No. 1951064

>>1949905
>>1949905
> not everyone who self harms have BPD
Honestly you’re right. You don’t have to have BPD to be an annoying and self centered attentionwhore who accuses everyone who dislikes seeing your self harm is a big BPD meanie. But if someone has a history of self harming with severe results in an incredibly visible area, and coming in THIS thread of all places knowing people will say things that will upset them, then I really wonder about what mental illness they have.

No. 1951754

Anyone here fed up with the "it comes from trauma" narrative? When people vent about their experiences with mentally ill people, there's always some shitty whiteknight that says "Itcomes from trauma!!"
yes, and? Or better, since your shit comes from trauma, why are you giving it to others? You should know how shitty that is, right?
"Abusers were often abused as children!" "Bullies are often mistreated at home!" and? Why do they make it everyone else's problem?
Without a circular definition, why should I justify their behaviour?
When my ex moid kept me up at night when I was working and he was unemployed, should I let it go because trauma?
When he threatened suicide to manipulate me, everything was good because poor thing, he was traumatized?
When he overspent MY savings for both of us, it was his trauma?
When he told me I was useless despite caring and providing for him and keeping him off the streets, was his poor traumatized child speaking?
I do not fucking care if you have BPD or any other disorder, if you see that everyone leaves you, YOU are the problem.
Since I left him, I started to sleep better. Sleep better for fuck's sake! I don't have to check if he's breathing in the morning (he used to get up and overdose on MY meds, I had to put locks in my own house), I don't have to make sure I give him a good night kiss, I can stay up late to do my own shit like crocheting or drawing after work without him crying around my house, I can call my friends and chill with them at night, I can take long baths. A 25 year old baby. Have trauma? You know you have trauma, to the point you use it against other people when they call out your shit? Cope and go to therapy, your illfitting life is only yours.

No. 1951953

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>>1950114
Picrel I saw today, made me laugh. How is this NPD or even manipulation? Telling people things they want to hear to comfort them is just basic fucking empathy and social scenarios, how chronically online are these people.

No. 1951957

>>1951953
Literally how I’m starting to feel abt anyone who says they’re “neurodivergent” bc rn it just means anything and everything. Idk it just feels absolutely flanderized past the point of usefulness. Like what even is a neurotypical at this point, bc neurodivergence has become like “I don’t like sour cream”, “I don’t like waking up in the morning”, “the lights in the office are too bright”, “I’ve been absent minded once or twice in my lifetime”. These are all pretty normal parts of being a normal person, what’s divergent here?? Do these ppl thing there’s some fucking robot cloaked in human skin who’s like, “Wow I can’t wait to get screeched at by my alarm clock and drive in to my cold, bright, shitty office and do small talk.” That person’s not fucking real

No. 1951960

>>1951957
The depathologisation of "neurodivergence" is also leading to people making the strangest assumptions about themselves. I've seen people with ADHD claim their ADHD causes mania when that's a bipolar thing, or dyslexics saying they struggle with social cues, which is just an autistic thing.

No. 1951961

>>1951953
It's basically just people going through the motions of what they have to do in social situations even though they don't really want to do it, then they make a big cope about it by going "I'M A MANIPULATIVE MASTERMIND" when I would give $50 they're NEET adjacent poorly socialized shut-ins who cannot truly connect emotionally with others due to internet addiction. Empathy is a learnable skill.

No. 1951962

>>1951953
Every time I see one of these posts I just want to scream. You are not fucking NPD, you're just a lonely, possibly autistic teenager who struggles to make friends and have convinced yourself you're narcissistic rather than found new friends. You're not manipulative, you just talk to people and the concept is so new to you since you spent most of your life in your room.
Ask any of these people if they would actually do NPD things, like scream and rage at anyone in sight for the slightest perceived attack, sabotage others' successes, financially, physically, sexually abuse? They don't even leave their rooms. There's a reason psychiatrists would never diagnose you with NPD at your age and never 10 years later because by then you'd have grown out of that edgy phase.

No. 1951964

Samefag, I cringe and laugh whenever seeing these types of posts because when I was a pre teen, I was a little introverted kid who struggled to make friends and would be teenager edgy and think I was a psychopath. Seeing these potentially grown adults do the same thing is horribly embarrassing.

No. 1952470

I really don’t care if BPD is a stigmatized mental illness. It need to be stigmatized. Becoming a borderline’s favorite person sets you up for a life of abuse. If you try to leave they get worse and more abusive. They can get away with being evil people by pulling the mental illness card.

No. 1952566

Whatever insane level of anxiety/OCD some women who are chronically on Twitter get that essentially makes them agoraphobic.

No. 1952605

>>1951953
Kek Idk but this person does seem pretty annoying and delusional and I wouldn't be surprised if they do actually have pronounced narcissistic traits - just not in the way they think/want to demonstrate. At least, this person wants to feel special, and in this case it's a "self-aware narcissist" that's actually goooooood, not a typical toxic piece of shit. If he/she makes such a big deal out of being basic-level nice and caring, I can only imagine how it's manifested in reality. Think of self-proclaimed empaths. It doesn't seem like the same thing but something very close. I imagine they know what you need and they deliberately make you know they take it into consideration. They also seem like an annoying overly "rational" condescending type that might use therapy speak. Plus the example of manipulation is indeed funny but I automatically don't trust anyone who justifies manipulative behavior. Or, more precisely, you should trust the part where one confesses they're manipulative and ignore the part where they try to whitewash it and blur the lines, claiming everyone does it. Like ok, I know now that you at least want to think you can influence people and that you're in control or something and it says a lot, even if your manipulations are childish and obvious.

No. 1952648

>>1952605
>it's a "self-aware narcissist" that's actually goooooood
reminds me of "non-offending MAPs" kek

No. 1952737

>>1947336
> take personal responsibility by not showing their scars around randoms, especially where susceptible teens and kids can see them. for example, teachers shouldn't be allowed to show their self harm scars in schools. and no matter how you twist it, displaying self harm scars is asking for attention, and like other anons have already stated, you cannot expect people to not clock you as a bpdfag or demand they simply ignore or overlook evidence of severe mental illness when you're actively presenting it to them.
I get this for unhealed, recent scars but please tell me what you’re supposed to do if your scars are healed in a very visible spot and you’re just trying to live your life? Wear long sleeves and gloves always, even in 100 degree heat?

No. 1952746

I have scars on my arm from when my cat scratched me, lemme just quickly cover those up to make sure children aren't offended too

No. 1952949

>>1951953
This is the new generation of "Normal People Scare Me" AHS font shirt girls in middle school

No. 1952955

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Moids need to be put down

No. 1955143

>>1952746
>t. seething attentionwhore
People gawk and stare at burn victims too and may even find their appearance horrifying, the difference is that they are VICTIMS and deserve sympathy. Meanwhile self harmers mutilate themselves deliberately to get pity points, get mad when people don’t want to see it, and have to make absolutely everything about them in a thread dedicated to talking about mental illness you hate. Deranged behavior.

No. 1955220

>>1952737
Learn to read, there's air conditioners everywhere so there's no excuse to be exposing your gnarly scars to everybody

No. 1955316

>>1955220
You're genuinely retarded

No. 1955477

Are smear campaigns common with bpd or is that more npd? I know a lot overlaps

No. 1955547

>>1952955
This sounds exactly like my ex, he would randomly pick fights with me over nothing and treat the situation as if he was breaking up with me, wait for me to start crying and ask for pictures of me crying

No. 1955677

>>1955220
Why don't you learn to read? Aircons where
>>1955477
Both. BPDs do it because they want sympathy points e.g. accusing you of abusing them when it was the opposite. NPDs do it because they just want to be superior and kick you to the dirt.

No. 1955771

>>1942645
Shit anon are you me kek. When I was 16 I had a moid armchair diagnose me with hpd because I opened up about being slightly jealous of people with better grades and opportunities than me at school. No idea where that logic came from. He'd then ask me for nudes and videos and when I said no because it's literal cp, he said "shut up, you're hpd, you're supposed to love attention".

No. 1955848

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Six months ago I moved in with my best friend who recently got a bpd diagnosis. It's supposed to be 'quiet' bpd and I guess it kind of is because she's not prone to tantrums and most of her impulsive self destructive decisions are easy to miss at first (like giving up her antipsychotics, starving herself one week just to binge on candy the next, etc) but I'm so tired already. We're the same age but I feel like I'm raising a preteen daughter. She's obsessed with a professor at out university, he's her fp and she frequently has meltdowns because of him. I've had to intervene many times and each time she agreed she needed to stop obsessing about him but she never follows through and starts talking about how hot he is, staring at his pictures for hours and trying to get his attention literally the next day. Her meltdowns are so extreme she ceases to function, she starts crying in public unable to speak for up to two hours sometimes and each time I'm so scared she's going to do something to herself because she has a history of suicide attempts and self harm.
Aside from bpd she has mild schizophrenia and often decides to stop taking her meds and I feel so controlling for constantly making sure she's being responsible and not going cold turkey on a whim. Oh and cooking for both of us and asking her if she's eaten anything all the time because if I don't she doesn't eat anything and faints in public. She almost fell face first onto concrete last time it happened and if it weren't for a moid friend I wouldn't have been able to catch her. This is genuinely so stressful. I feel like an asshole control freak because I keep scolding her for dumb shit she does like the starvation thing. And I feel like she's encouraged it because she's a very codependent person and asks me for help with every meaningless decision she makes (she hides the serious things that I mentioned). I feel like a bitch because I can come across as harsh when talking to her about those things but when I don't it's like she's on her way to the psych ward with all the irresponsible shit she does. She also revealed that she used to split on me very often before we moved in and that she dropped me (there was a time when she ghosted me for a few months but then came back and apologized) because she thought I was plotting against her because at the time I discouraged her from seeing a guy who turned out to be an asshole, so I can't even trust her as a friend to be there for me… Before we moved in I wouldn't have suspected she had bpd but now it's very obvious to me and I don't want to cut her off because of it, she's still important to me, but I kind of wish I had a different roommate sometimes.

No. 1956558

>>1955771
he is the final boss of negging

>>1955848
yeah, your friend sucks. cool pic

No. 1957617

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Parents who call their children "manipulative" and accuse them of being the mentally ill ones.

No. 1959761

I watched a documentary on YouTube a while back about people who have severe OCD, but the kind of OCD that seemed more paranoid schizo type than ritualistic. There was a woman who was essentially agoraphobic and was constantly worried that she murdered someone and forgot about it and then dumped them in the garbage so she would check the garbage bins around her a lot. There was some guy who was I guess really anxious that if he wasn’t near a bathroom that he would shit himself or have an accident so he essentially lived in his mothers bathroom and sat on the toilet all day. The doc vaguely followed them through treatment but if I recall neither of them got any better. I cant even imagine what the treatment for this kind of OCD would be since medication wasn’t helping either of them and at least the guy took exposure therapy quite badly.

No. 1959837

>>1957617
Ruby Franke vibes for real

No. 1960770

Moids moids moids. Each and every one of them online is so full of personality disorder level anger and hatred it needs to be a diagnosis. No wonder people used to vaguepost about "haters" back then. The haters are just unwashed moids with shaved heads walking around in a constant state of seethe.

No. 1960857

>>1951064
Late and NTA, but it's probably because you were lecturing grown women on taking "responsibility" for their history of self-harming, so it might be years old or from childhood, by covering up forever even in intense heat. And if they disagree then accusing them of wanting to show off their scars, having BPD and being attention whores…

No. 1968980

>>1959761
many cases of OCD and severe phobias are quite literally the result of curling and sheltered first world upbringing. if you even have the possibility to avoid things like spiders, germs, other people etc, to the point where the avoidance creates a severe phobia, you're pretty much guaranteed to be a sheltered NEET who never had to face enough challenges, so your mind just conjured up their own problems kek. same with ARFID, they might as well just call it chicken nuggies ipad kid disorder (CNIPKD?).
i have a close friend with really bad OCD and emetophobia and after dealing with her bullshit for too long i've completely lost sympathy for anyone with these illnesses. they're some of the most selfish, demanding and entitled people ever and being close to them requires you to always submit to their demands and have every single interaction revolve around them and their problems at all times. and if you don't enable their fears and phobias (which is the right thing to do since reassurance and other enabling behaviors literally hurts them and makes it even worse) they will despise you and act like you've wronged them. just generally exhausting people who drain the life force from their friends and families, much like bippies but in different ways. this goes for some specific types of OCD though, i know there's a lot of different variants and a lot of them are probably not as annoying.

No. 1968986

>>1968980
>many cases of OCD and severe phobias are quite literally the result of curling and sheltered first world upbringing.
That's the most retarded statement I've ever read on this website.

No. 1968994

>>1968986
it's literally a well known fact but you clearly don't know the first thing about this disorder. having overprotective parents who curl and shelter you is a common cause of OCD and related issues. there are also other causes, like having too strict and demanding parents for example.

No. 1968999

>>1968994
If you think it's just a first world disease and that third world parents can't be overly protective or strict, maybe you're the sheltered one.

No. 1969004

>>1968980
>>1968994
Phobias and ocd have nothing to do with how wealthy or poor you are. My mom was a very sick kid and she lived in a filthy poor household with a narc mom that did not take care of her and she developed an obsession-compulsion with cleaning. In Latin America. Not a first world country.

No. 1969021

>>1968980
Are you aware that people can develop OCD in their adulthood.. that haw nothing to do with sheltering them as children, it can be from adult life experiences. Not everybody with OCD is like your ex friend, stop projecting your weird problem on others damn.

No. 1969031

>>1968999
>>1969004
>>1969021
learn to read before replying. many cases, not every single one, and as i said, there are a lot of causes. an overly sheltered upbringing is a well known one, regardless of what you might personally think and regardless of there being tons of other possible causes. what's so hard to understand?
i don't see a lot of bangladeshis or liberians getting tube fed cause they psychologically can't handle the texture of anything other than a french fry. a problem like that only develops in privileged environments. believing otherwise is delusional and factually wrong.

No. 1969051

>>1969031
You sound insane and a bit racist yourself, ngl

No. 1969083

>>1969031
watch out for the triggered nonnies trying to cope.
It's true. a lot of eating "disorders" and personality disorders are the product of either very sheltered lives.
How come you don't see arfid or anorexia in 3rd world countries but you see shit like autism and schizophrenia?
"They don't have much food anyway!"
So it's about the access to food, not a mental illness. It's purely an enviromental fact.
No shit you don't see addicts in countries that ban drugs or alcohol. It's poor control or being spoiled, no in between but most importantly, no "illness".
>>1969051
Instead of talkin in buzzwordese, prove wrong.

No. 1969117

>>1969051
What's racist about pointing out that ARFID doesn't exist in places where the only options are eating what's available and starving to death?

No. 1969330

>>1969051
>racist
sure i'll admit my racism against rich white people with a "safe foods" list consisting of mcdonald's nuggets and tin loaf slices with the edges cut off. fucking kek. mentally ill people in the mental illness hate thread, who would've guessed it

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>>1968980
>many cases of OCD and severe phobias are quite literally the result of curling
hoser spotted

No. 1970609

I think a bpd diagnosis should be disclosed like an std

No. 1970639

>>1969083
This reminds me of an episode of Intervention where these twins were anorexic. Their parents were from Poland and moved to the states to give their family a better life and just couldn't seem to understand why their daughters were doing this. The dad said something along the lines of them looking like they were from Auschwitz and that growing up in Poland it was a problem that people didn't have enough to eat and it was incomprehensible that in America the land of plenty his daughters would refuse to eat.

No. 1970640

>>1969083
There's definitely anorexia in third world countries, the fuck? Even in lower income families

No. 1970643

>>1969330
It's the insistence on dictating what you think happens in third world countries and thinking we all are too poor and retarded to get mentally ill. You're weird.

No. 1970685

Knew someone who stole and lied for gain, cheated in video games for someone else to lose, liked to put others down any way he could. Tax evasion, scamming people money. He made fake accounts to attack people from real life. He'd go as far as he needed to if he thought he would get away with it. Once he threatened me with violence and through me out half naked and without a phone in the middle of the night. If anyone dared to question his morals or out him he'd lash out and try to spin it on you. Same if you witnessed someone try to question him and didn't jump to defend him. Obviously you were just a cruel uncaring person if you didn't defend him exploiting others. Anything bad except actual murder and rape (that I know of), he had done it. Finally also "liked" actual toddlers and cp. For a while after I got away I thought I had to be BPD like he had always told me, but since then I have had no issues with anyone else and live a normal life. Now if I sense any trait of narcissism or psychopathy, even the typical charisma, I cannot stand it at all. Such a vile creature, I wish he and all the people like him would just disappear.

No. 1970806

>>1970685
This confirms my suspicion that videogame cheater moids are some of the worst vile scum.

No. 1970855

>>1970640
yeah anorexia has been documented in all kinds of backgrounds. third world countries, amish communities, look up anorexia mirabilis. yeah some people develop anorexia beyond vanity reasons. i think it's bulimia and BED that are generally associated with the first world. also there's definitely addicts in places where drugs/alcohol is banned. i swear that anon must be baiting.

No. 1970880

>>1970643
>dictating what you think happens in third world countries and thinking we all are too poor and retarded to get mentally ill
literally all your own projections and not a single thing i said. you in particular are indeed proving to be retarded though so i guess i'll concede that. what i said is that shit like arfid and many cases of OCD/related issues develops from being too sheltered and having too much. this is undisputable fact that you can just look up, ofc it can also have a million other causes, which i've now had to repeat like three times in my posts but you're still not comprehending it.

No. 1971847

Ana-chans who are really fucking mean. They call anyone with a pound of body fat obese but look like absolute dogshit.

No. 1971889

>>1971847
This site is filled with them

No. 1971922

>>1969083
>a lot of eating "disorders" and personality disorders are the product of either very sheltered lives.
Absolutely agreed, binge eating disordered people are even worse. Just like ana chans/bulimics they have no respect for the food they're eating or the people around them worried for their health, the thing that makes them shittier is they then claim they're oppressed for being fatties because of it.

No. 1972039

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>>1971847
Yesss. Ozempic celebs look so fucking awful, Bella Hadid's weight loss fucked up her back and she looks like an old lady. I see people constantly tell her that she looks better after even with her bones deteriorating and her spine slouching. who's genius idea was it to make Auschwitz-chic a thing? At least the heroin chic skinny in the 90s could be accomplished for most women via diet. Now you gotta get damn near Jesus to look good now

No. 1972049

>>1972039
>At least the heroin chic skinny in the 90s could be accomplished for most women via diet.
You mean cocaine and amphetamines

No. 1972061

>>1972049
Those help with cravings and energy drops yeah but it wasn't like a combo of all of those + ozempic leading women in their 30s to look like grandmas

No. 1972372

>>1970855
Being a brainwashed religious girly has nothing to do with the slave mentality of saying "omg if I don't eat this chip I'm totally in control of my body and everyone else who has a pound of body fat is obese and lame"
Anorexia is not self starving, anorexia is a narc belief of being better and being in control, the self starving is a consequence, just like binge is self control over food and throwing up.
Religious and traumatizing experience that make you avoid food is not anorexia, you don't call muslshits who do ramadan binge eaters because they fast for all day and then stuff themselves all night.("muslshits" bait)

No. 1972435

>>1951960

A lot of these "neurodivergent" diagnoses have very high comorbidity rates to the point that they blur into each other a lot of the time. About ⅓ of those who meet diagnostic criteria for autism spectrum disorder are also diagnosable with bipolar.

No. 1972557

People who get diagnosed with something and make it their entire personality. I guess that's every case in this thread tho lol, but I can't stand it. Someone I know got diagnosed with the tism like a year ago and every time I talk to her now it's
>No anon my autist brain can't do that
>Did you know autists do _____
>So I've had this hyperfixation and
>But I'm handicapped for life tho

Mental health "awareness" was a mistake. There are plenty of spergs with regular day jobs, now they get babied into believing they can't do shit to begin with so they might as well give up before their life even started.

No. 1973638

>>1972557
>Mental health "awareness" was a mistake.
It really was. I used to be in a support group for mental illness (psychotic shit, not pds), people were sharing actual advices on how to cope and then first it had to be limited due to zoomers wanting to fit in and actually harming the group by saying shit like "Rp post: we let our hallucinations talk!" and then closed because they were shitting up the join requests with slurs and shit about us gatekeeping and hurting the mentally ill youth.
I believe that this fad will go away but it's a dark time, the psych wards are also filled with said zoomers who are just spicy normies at best who get into circlejerking so bad that they convice themselves that they're sick, it's like watching a religious/cult mass delusion. It's not like they give up doing shit, they do shit, they just put on this helpless facade for asspats, that's why I believe that these people sure are sick but not sick of the thing they say that they have. They are all some sort of histrionic/manipulative thing because a sane person doesn't do that.



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