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No. 2311735
As the title says.
Post experiences, why you can't stand them and such.
This is NOT about your own disorder, so don't blogpost/vent, there's already a thread for that.
This thread is about mental illness you can't stand in others.
Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you OR to defend a specific disorder because "[thing] people are actually etc etc" because seeing patterns is not illegal. If your disorder gets posted here, cope and hide the thread, don't be a little bitch.
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>>>/ot/1470488 No. 2312259
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Maybe I'm going insane and I know that stress being a key factor in some illnesses can actually harm the body but I hate that type of mental illness (Munchie? Malingerer? Narc?) that makes people fake conditions that had to be there since being born and now they're randomly appearing and somehow people are ok with that, I call it the modern quiet hysteria.
For ex. everyone now claims to be ADHD but to have it, you have to had symptoms since childhood! People are not adhd randomly or just because they fry their brains on tiktok doomscroolling, it's impossible to be a "gifted child" and now being unable to do basic shit but what really grinds my gears are physical conditions that come from trauma. Stress can break down a person, I fucking well know that, stress can make you develop pots but I wonder why the fuck are fakers faking ehlers danlos? To act like the fragile angel better? To have sympathy? And why are these symptoms strangely convenient?
I have ehlers danlos but you cannot develop it due to trauma, trauma doesn't fuck up your connective tissue and muscles but most importantly, unless is wheelchair-bound type of pain, it's not that serious and at the same time, not that easy to live with. Since I was a kid, my joint dislocated easily and my hands frequently got stuck and it was extremely painful but once that was took care of, it was gone. It's not possible to have "dystonia attacks", you always have it, period, and what baffles me it's how clear this is to me but people take a faker's word for granted and nod. Like? It's not that big of a deal, if you manage it and yet I see people that can barely roll their tongue call it "hypermobility" and claim to be disabled. Fuck that.
Kinda unrelated for this, I think that this bitch is faking or making everything bigger than it is. Tourettes, absence seizures and stuff, I can't stand malingerers, I hope they actually get the illness that they oh so love.
No. 2312430
>>2312259My tinfoil is that autism and ADHD became more popular because of… concerned moms? Soccer moms? Karen moms? Idk, you will get the idea.
Some kids are just not the brightest, that's just how they are, but some parents can't be content that being a loud and lazy fuck (at worst; at best, the kid is just not a child prodigy, so, a normal kid) is an inate part of the kid's personality, since they really want a kid genius.
So, they seek out ADHD or autism diagnosis, since it means that the kid can be "fixed" and his/her true potential can be unlocked.
Well, it's not the biggest part, but I think an important one too.
No. 2312574
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Bippies love reshaping their own disorders until it means nothing over and over. It's like claiming the new autism while forgetting what the original diagnosis actually is. DID fakerinos will kill to not be considered bippies because it will mean not having cool ocs while bippies want them so bad to justify their mood disruption lol
I've also seen bippies claim to be neurodivergent like which part of personality disorder isn't clear? You can't cure neurodivergency, you can manage it but you can cure a personality disorder with enough talk therapy and coping mechanisms. You can't cure autism by talking and working on trauma response.
No. 2312581
>>2312578Let's say that DID is just over dramatic BPD. They are on different step of the same label but I always find it funny how supposed bippies (most likely self diagnosed) try to insert themselves into many other definitions, like being neurodivergent, because they know the stigma of being bpd and they're not totally like that guize!!!
Yet they cannot comprehend why it's such a shitty disorder with a shittier, well earned reputation.
No. 2312641
>>2312631"No sense of self" doesn't mean that bippies don't experience selves at all. If you go into bippie
victims support communities, everyone will tell how their partner switched personalities once the relationship settled in, "splitting" is the same as "switching". Different styles of attachment doesn't mean shit tbh, it's all about muh twauma and it's both present. DID is not real in the core, meaning that our brain cannot store more than one person, it's just heavy voluntary dissociation with made up characters, who are still part of one and surely not drastically different persons to cope with responsibility. They're the same, just on different levels of dramatization. It's like being stuck at a children phase when you make up imaginary friends to cope and being emotionally stunted is also present in bpd. They overlap creepily but we're not here to discuss the legitimacy of the disorder rather than the ones who suffer from it.
No. 2312668
>>2312574but personality disorders
aren't curable, nona… they can be managed with dedicated commitment to treatment and learning how to healthily cope, at best. That said, DID is utter bullshit for most of the population claiming they have it. It's for bored LARPers who would be better suited taking up acting classes and theater since they love being a variety of main characters.
No. 2312676
>>2312430I agree, a big part of it is parents who won't relax and let kids be dumb kids instead of hyperfunctioning perfect mini-adults. A lot of kids grow out of being disorganized and flaky. You just have to give them patience.
Another huge part of why "autism and ADHD" are more popular is because grown-ass people have a misconception about life. When people reach adulthood, they have unrealistic expectations of themselves and wonder all the time why they can't be super successful. Honestly, it's hard for ANYONE to be super successful. But they blame themselves and not our fucked up culture that demands perfection and constant hard work. One good friend of mine went on a high dosage of Adderall and told me, "I finally feel what it's like to be a normal functioning person!" I don't actually believe that. The uppers just make her a turbo version of herself. She only thinks she's "normal now" because she had a warped view of how people get by in the world. We're ALL struggling.
The part I can't stand is when people do it for attention and excuses. It's been hard in the last few years when some friends/coworkers started drinking the tik tok kool aid and figured out that if they claim ADHD or autism they can get away with acting selfish, insensitive, and overly emotional – making themselves other people's problem – without any consequences, or anyone questioning it. Without anyone encouraging them to do better.
No. 2313668
>>2312996Nta but that's what you're misunderstanding about the DSM. The DSM doesn't say there's more than 1 person, it states that it's just 1 person split into parts. That's why there's memory fog, repressed memories/emotional parts and other typical trauma shit.
Of course if you think there's multiple whole people in there then that's not did.
No. 2313744
>>2313674i feel like that’s just what
abusive men say they’re like
No. 2313758
>>2313674Nta but possibly an abuuusor man because I feel very comfortable saying ABPDALT (all bpd are like that). Something a lot of women who don't have personality disorders can't comprehend is that BPDs will lie about abuse or SA because the idea of doing that sounds
so completely moid-brained and unfathomable to them. Until you've dealt with multiple BPDs directly and become changed and jaded forever, because you recognize the identical patterns and behavior in all of them.
No. 2313763
>>2313760I'm performing moidness to agree with
>>2313674 but I've also been accused of gaslighting by the BPDs I'm thinking of who accuse all of their previous partners of rape, so it's funny you brought that up
No. 2313765
>>2313763like what was the story how did ALL of them sa her though.
victims are likely to be revictimized. especially people with personality disorders who end up isolated because of their behavior.
No. 2313772
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>>2313765picrel + therapy + meds?
I don't understand the difference between a BPD and an incel who blame women and ~society~ for all their problems. They create and live in a world of misery but still expect sympathy and admiration (somehow simultaneously). It's also a personality disorder. I don't feel bad for psychopaths or other cluster b's, why would I advocate for women who are constantly manipulating other women and retraumatizing themselves? 99% of the time, they're pick-mes who will throw you under the bus for a moid but expect you to drop everything and rush to save/comfort them after this week's soul mate has done something unforgivable. It's exhausting and no amount of emotional support is enough (or even acknowledged).
No. 2313783
>>2313780Everyone has trauma. People choose to be emotional vampires, lie about SA (discrediting actual
victims) and manipulate everyone around them by rewriting history to suit their emotions and ever-changing personal narratives. That's what makes BPDs notorious and why their
victims share an unspoken bond. It's all so similar everywhere, no one really feels the need to justify or explain themselves anymore. At least I don't!
No. 2313791
>>2313783look i’ve had a horrible experience with a bpd friend, she literally threatened me. but i do believe she was molested. like yeah that makes sense why you’re into ddlg i have to stop being friends with you now because you’re making me uncomfortable but i can see how that fucked you up. i wouldn’t call myself a
victim of hers. she sucked but like. chill. did one of them like attack you how did this crazy girl traumatize you lol
No. 2313797
>>2313791This post
>>2313778 was encouraging you to spend more time with BPDs, if you think people like me are gaslighting for moids or making it up. I don't know your friend so can't comment but one of the most awful aspects of dealing with a BPD is that you begin to doubt things that you would never imagine someone would or
could lie about. That's all I really have to say about it,
nonnie.
No. 2313808
>>2313804there was literally just a female school shooter who only killed women so honestly it’s hard to pretend that there isn’t some evil woman out there making rape
victims look like liars. i never would have thought someone would fake being kidnapped and two women made the news about it recently. i also trust you more because this isn’t exactly manlovers.net
No. 2313997
>>2313668That's clearly not the case. The DSM contradicts itself in saying "parts of self" and then it says that "parts are distinct from each other", if they are parts, they are not distinct. If what you were saying was true and legit, why are alters a thing? "Blacking out" and then blaming someone else is not having other parts. I know that not even the word "alter" appears in the DSM but the definition contradicts itself. They're part of the same, yet patients dont have to remember. Part of the same, yet people blame others. Just like bippies who split and then blame the
victim. The only difference in DID and BPD is the blame target, otherwise they're the exact same.
DID is "I did a despicable thing but it wasn't me!!' while BPD is "I did a despicable thing and you made me do it!"
Heavy dissociation is present in both.
No. 2314083
>>2314058What even is a true case of DID? Even the most famous ones are bogus
Let's put Sybil to the side, that bitch admitted it was all fake, Kim the painter? Then you are not referring to a legit case, because she claims to have other "people". Billy Milligan? That fucker claimed to have a fuckton of people that knew different languages that he didn't study and women alters and if what are you saying is true, how the fuck did he have "woman" parts? That's like falling in troon logic. What even is a true case, to you?
Do not look into the DSM definition of DID, look out the people who are claiming to suffer from it, it's fancy BPD. If we were to judge bippies from the DSM, then we would all agree that they're just "broken people who just want to love and are afraid to be left alone sad big puppy emoji" when in reality they're controlling beasts that live in constant paranoia and act out their mental fantasy instead of living in the real world and make your life hell if you don't fit their script.
No. 2314148
>>2314100Are you talking about the "programming abuse" from the very famous bogus book "Those weren't butterflies"? Then, again, you are bringing contradictory examples. Programming abuse is real as the satanic panic. The "programming abuse" talks about breaking achild down to force out other roles and yes that's trauma, no those are not identities, it's still a child, but can you name me a case? A single, legit case? Programming abuse theory talks about forcing a child to imagine things or call themselves a certain way so they are basically gaslit and won't tell adults/authorities legit stuff and their witnessing reports would look so imaginary and fantastical, that they wouldn't be considered a reliable source. It's heavy gaslighting also csa? You can spell words here, sexually abuse children yes, they develop a barrier in between themselves and the trauma but it's more swiping it under to rug to avoid trouble. Children know that shit happened to them, but most of the times abuse is perpetuated in families and they wont' speak to not to make the parents angry (for ex. father hitting them - since it's 99% by piece of shit fathers and stepfathers to stick their dick where they shouldn't or threathening homelessness or killing the mom, or unstable mom accusing the child of lying so they could get away from them - saw that irl, I work with this shit), children know that this shit happened but adults tell them that something bad will happen if they tell anyone, look up how child abucting
victims were told that the abducter would kill their family or their family abandoned them. Children KNOW. They often go to their happy place because they're children, but they don't split themselves into "identities", they split the world around them. Do some research instead of talking in fancy bookese.
No. 2314157
>>2314148Never heard of that book title either and had to google that.
>Programming abuse is real as the satanic panic.Kek that's like sweeping government organisation abuse under the rug because nobody came out about it and nobody was ever charged so it mustn't have happened at all. Shit like mk-ultra or the like.
And if children always remember everything that happened to them then why do many CSA
victims, DID claimers or no, report having very little memory to none of it? The brain forgets shit to protect itself in daily life, it's not rocket science.
No. 2314278
>>2312996>>2312999it's called identity disorder because the issue lies within the person, they perceive themselves this way / they think they have more than one self. That's the whole thing about this disorder and why it is a disorder. Yes, it usually starts with imaginary friends in childhood. If this coping mechanism is used often enough (in childhood, because of traumatic experience and being dissociative) it becomes a force of itself / the patient believes it because they have to. You didn't really think alters exist as different selves in one person?
Dissociation is a survival mechanism (usually
triggered close to death). DID is just the extreme end of PTSD+dissociation. It's really not that hard or complex. Not every person with PTSD has dissociation for example.
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>>2314083I wouldn't read any biographies of 'famous people' tbh, I'd rather read from professional sources. Katy Steele has articles like pic rel.
The cause is CSA, neglet, abuse etc, often all of them, from a young age to teenage or some cases adulthood.
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AuDHD havers, this faggot from Instagram in particular
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>how it feels being neuroconvergent in 2024(bait/ai slop outside of containment)
No. 2316492
>>2316485My bad I'm sorry, gonna post something relevant to make up for my dumb bitch moment
I'm sick and tired of how some try to defend BPD people nowadays (especially on social media). We all know someone who has a story about an obsessive BPD ex or a BPD friend who's mean and aggressive, and while I get that they suffer from the disorder, the way they get coddled while draining others feels insulting to those who have to deal with their bullshit. I'm not sure whether it's even possible to demand someone with BPD control themselves (maybe it's like telling someone with anxiety to "just stop worrying") but while I know they can't help their feelings, it doesn't mean they get to take it out on others.
>>2313758 and
>>2313778 are spot on.
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