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>>1724516Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
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>useful youtube channelshttps://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelMANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND.also check e-hentai
No. 1760966
>>1759477Damn, and just when I wanted to open.
Not that it represents the whole commission sphere but whenever I look at Vgen it's mostly Vtuber emotes or graphics, and illustrations are all the same high-polish low-fundie anime style. Most Twitter followers are kids or whoever that are just there to look at fanart for free and I've seen accounts with 10k followers and reasonable art quality not even fill 5 slots. I don't even know what I'm trying to say, I wish this shit was easier.
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I haven’t been keeping up with these threads lately so idk if anyone’s posted this guy yet but god his art is so ugly. I don’t even care about the big boobs or butts, it’s just fuckin rank to look at.
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Remember when society wasn't shit, freedom of speech was valued, most vocal retards didn't dictate the flow of culture, people preferred to discuss what's beautiful and interesting instead of having a rage boner over what's vile, ugly and boring?(derailing)
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>>1761842If you consider something as bad why give it more attention? The only place i encounter ugly af art is lolcow, because some users are constantly seeking it out and promoting it under the guise of disliking it. And the places i find most good art is not lolcow, because most here are too engaged with being salty over piss, shit and vomit. Be the change you want to see in the world. You people disgust me.
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I was waiting for someone to post this and no one has yet, so. This doesn't mean the end obviously but tumblranons how are we feeling? Are you taking the news well and planning for the future or are you fully fearmongered? I'm not going to lie I'm a little bit of both.
>>1762252You know what? I'm so hyped to just blow my next paycheck on a big ass pack of copics.
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>>1762402In comparison to other social medias my posts get the lowest numbers on there, so I'm not too worried. If it completely dies it'll suck though, I have so many refs saved on sideblogs.
>>1762696>instead of their core audiencesI genuinely don't think there is any way of appealing to the average tumblr user in a way that will generate money. They did memey stuff like the crabs and fake checkmarks and users started saying that that's cringe and that they'll block anyone who buys into it. They tried subscriptions and blazing (paid boosting of posts) and livestreaming and it just made users mad kek people who still use tumblr do it because other social medias are worse, this doesn't mean they are particularly fond of the site
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reposting from the animation cow's thread
>Jaiden Animations and Odd1sout are joining a coomer sketching tour with egoraptor and guests. Is this supposed to be entertaining?
so much for being asexual
No. 1763214
>>1762832I could only bloc one person
or tag at a time without the premium, kek.
No. 1763220
>>1762946I try to do this when I can, and I find it hilarious, but TIFs are women too. Theres a handful that interact with my male-focus sub art as women do lmao.
>>1763167Try to get a cgpeers or gfxpeers account. But I know quite a lot of pro people still sticking to sai for inking or painting and hust moving to photoshop or somewhere else for text or something.
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How do you exactly start selling clothes you designed? This particular artist has so much stuff she designed, even keyboards.
No. 1764665
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Nonnas please help me with some advice.
I want to buy a tablet in the near future and I don't know what to choose between an iPad (for procreate) and a Galaxy Tab S9 (for Clip Studio Paint)
One of my friends is hellbent that ipads are the absolute best choice I can make if I want to have a good workflow and touch response, saying that if I am to buy a Galaxy Tab the ecosystem will limit me ( like what, isnt apple ecosystem restrictive af?) and that the tablet will end up catching dust.
I know iPads and especially procreate have a cult following, but having tried CSP on pc I was and still am super impressed with all the functionalities and the brushes etc, being a software specifically used and optimized for manga artists (I want to draw mostly characters and fashion designs, concept art).
If any of you have experience with any of the 2 tablets please outline the pros and cons, I'm really stumped as to what choice I should make. I know for a fact battery life is essential and I'm planning to use the damn thing for at least 2-3 years,mainly for drawing.
No. 1764772
>>1764665You can, like anon mentioned, get CSP for the iPad. I've been using mine for 3 years now and I don't use anything but procreate since I don't do extensive work that needs a larger expansion of tools. The good thing about Procreate is that it is freely updated with fantastic quality and it's a one time payment. Same with Dreams coming out for animating soon, one time payment. CSP has a pay per month thing, used to be a one time purchase. There aren't many other tablets with the tech as good as procreate and still be able to travel and not need a tablet hooked up to something. My boyfriend gave me his Ipad in luie of him buying the Galaxy and he barely touches it for any art, unless we travel. Otherwise he uses his wancom that's attached to the computer. Galaxy is fine, but the CSP on it isn't as good as an actual desktop tablem. Ipad has a way better 1:1 that you can adjust. The Galaxy has a small bit of lag, even when updated and using CSP or Photoshop. Also even with a glove, the Galaxy tends to pick up your side hand gestures rather than just the pen, so you have to hold you hand up a little instead of relaxing it. That can get tiring after a few hours.
As far as battery goes, both are about the same as far as full charge to 0 based on what programs you are using like on a phone. Regardless you gotta charge them for a while.
Other Pros/Cons:
-iPad you can send files to other computers and save them as different files, but Galaxy has easier transferring power due to the ios of it being more universal compared to apple
-iPad from full to 8% I've been able to use Procreate for about 3-4hrs, reading is like 10hrs and this is with an iPad Air 2, but apple still recognizes these as updatable and Dreams is coming to my version and will function perfectly too [these last longer than their stupid phones considering they have been caught doing technology obsolescence and have been sued]
-Galaxy is very nice and sleek and some models come with a pen instead of how you need to buy a separate one for the Ipad, you can also charge the Galaxy pen against the tablet whereas for Apple you need to hook up your pen [charges very fast] to the actual iPad or a separate cord [some have attachments which I have lost previously too because not all the charging cords fit due to apple being a little bitch about proprietary cords which are now changing over to USB C]
Sorry, I forgot about some of this in my initial post, hopefully this helps.
TL;TR: I find the accessibility, the overall tablet update system, the ios, and the apps for procreate to be much smoother and easier to interact with [EXCEPT MAX - HBO MAX - app which is buggy and will restart my iPad all the time]. Plus they give quality updates, that's really important to me. They have a whole team just for these apps and that's good because they aren't fucking around with low budget updates. No. 1765083
>>1765069I think I still have an ancient wacom bamboo in a drawer somewhere but I've fiddled with a display tablet too and I found it make things a million times easier.
I'd buy one of those 20+ tablets but atm I want something I can draw on on-the-go and that doesn't chain me to a PC.
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Yeah why do all hyperrealistic artists draw the same "woman with water" stuff, is it because water is difficult to draw hyperrealistic and they're flexing or something?
No. 1765283
>>1765105I'm sure there are artists that have seen people with those crappy mindsets, but I've never seen it personally, and especially not as a widespread opinion, so whenever I see artists making the trillionth video/reel/short/tiktok/le quirky funny post/whatever going "umm sooper hot take here guys!! it's ok to use reference!" it feels like they are just pretending that it is an unpopular opinion so they can act like they're being polemical and get more clicks. Same goes for "digital art is real art" and especially for people making videos like "Umm unpopular opinion guys but tracing is actually perfectly ok teehee [insert a dozen specifications and disclaimers about the specific situations in which it is ok to trace that are a completely unrelated thing from what "tracing is bad" is actually supposed to mean, thus making the "unpopular opinion" act clickbaity and retarded]"
Maybe this was more common in early deviantart like some nonnas say, but at least the "digital art is real art" feels like it would only be questioned now by people with literally zero knowledge of art and by beginners (scribbleshit on lined paper tier) being obvious crabs, and I don't know why anybody would give a shit about those guys' opinions
maybe trillion year old jeezers that don't know how a computer works too, but those guys aren't on twitter to have beef with you No. 1765405
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Do you ever see an artist that's really competent but you cant like their art for some reason? This artist is really talented, and I find her use of dynamic composition really interesting, but i cant fully like it. I don't know why.
No. 1765416
>>1765283AYRT and thank you anon, that's exactly what I grew around. I do somewhat remember the "Digital Art is real art" debate around 2009-2013'ish as more artists were transitioning to drawing tablets. I remember on the DeviantART forums around that time, that was a frequent topic being asked but I'd like to believe that at least around 2015/2016, it was agreed on that Digital Art is art as well which makes it unnerving when I hear these youngsters reiterating that when it's like, no duh, we know lol.
I feel that you're right that it more than likely is just these kids trying to vie for more likes/attention by saying pseudo-deep, popular statements or "opinions".
>>1765263That's fair anon and you're correct that around like 2008/2009 to about early 2010s, digital art was becoming more of a norm and there was a debate going on on whether digital art was real art or not, I remember the topic popping up on DeviantART but I stopped seeing the topic being mentioned as much around like 2015/2016. Now I'm not sure what it was like on Tumblr though because I was hardly active on there.
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>>1765105>Where the hell did this "using reference = cheating" mentality come from? Pretentious assholes. There is no generation that encapsulates pretentious artshit behavior. References are a necessity in art, maybe they've confused tracing for referencing.
No. 1765425
>>1765405Tbh, just because an artist knows what he/she is doing doesn’t mean everyone is obligated to like the art. Maybe there’s something you just don’t consider that remarkable for you to actually adore something, specially nowadays that it’s so easy to find other artists with skills who also have a great use of technical knowledge.
Idk, I feel like it’s easy to even get overwhelmed by the stuff that’s online, to the point that looking at art feels the same as looking at pictures of the same monuments over and over again but from different angles and taken at different dates. Like, at some point even the most wonderful stuff becomes something regular/common.
No. 1766009
>>1766000Gorgeous stuff, thanks for the rec!
Another thing I love about this kind of art is how there will be multiple figures and each of them quite uniquely posed and interacting with each other and their environment, gives a real liveliness to a piece, even if it's somber in tone. I know this is a feature in a lot of art in general, but it feels like an area where a lot of contemporary art stumbles a bit so it's always pleasant and inspiring to see
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>>1766009American painters are my favourites. They definetly stand out and were more unique, with styles that aged much better than their European peers of the time. I have noticed that American painters tend to use more experimental color palettes, brushtrokes and more vibrant colors(although the later might be because they are just preserved better). Dean cornwell paintings specifically feel so modern thanks to his unique use of color and dystinctive brushstroke style. Cartoons and sunday newspaper strips were a curse for american art.
No. 1767230
>>1766099This is really interesting and not much people realize it. I used to draw things that while I enjoyed the subject matter, I noticed they'll look bland and boring in the end. When I discovered Norman Rockwell's pieces I finally realized what I was missing. My drawings should be telling a story, or at least make the character(s) show personality.
I can't believe I took my sweet time to realize that
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I know it's going to be a while, but please use this next thread image suggestion
"In A Roman Osteria" by Carl Blocch
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>>1767716not for thread pic but I like this painting of his too
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>>1767716I always like this one. I don't know if it's thread pic worthy though
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I made a vk account to follow fandom specific artists, but stayed because the art scene in general and I'm amazed by the standard of art by Russian/Slavic women. There is higher quality, skill and heart in stuff that is usually phoned in, why is that? They also seem to just draw whatever they want rather than follow fandom trends, I see way more niche or experimental stuff or random multi ships that would get western fanbases screeching. Seriously considering learning at least Russian to hang with them, they seem so cool. (Picrel is Lady Shalirin).
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>>1768315Makes sense (same artist). I saw some Russian academic drawing course somewhere online and I want to take it. I hate being in the global west, a lot of the art schools are shit with fundamentals, focus too much on interpretation,style and networking and I can only assess myself so much.
No. 1768331
>>1768325Russians and slavs (particularly those from the ex-Soviet Union) have also always been very focused on things such as art and sports for competitive reasons fueled by nationalism (sweet sweet ol' Cold War remnants), which is why at least in Russia when you're in school you get to choose early on whether you'd like to become an athlete, artist, engineer etc and you'll receive extensive training for that as early as possible. The result is russian artists usually being extremely skilled at least in fundamentals at a very young age.
I envy them so fucking much. The art classes I got in school were pure shit so I had to self-learn entirely by myself. There were some academic art courses I could've taken but they were expensive and honestly not even that good.
No. 1768342
>>1768325
>I hate being in the global west, a lot of the art schools are shit with fundamentals, focus too much on interpretation,style and networking and I can only assess myself so much.goddddd this. i'm a mostly self taught artist but i've been in my fair share of art schools/courses because i wanted to improve on my fundies (i always sucked really fucking hard at perspective so i wanted help) and nearly all of them put most of the learning focus on shit like style and artistic value and meaning and other subjective shit. they'd give you some fundies and then quickly after go back to "expression" and other mumbo jumbo. many of them were also full of big artists giving speeches and licking their own balls while giving almost no good advice because all they talk about is art on a subjective level. i remember in one of the art schools i was in there was a week full of tedtalks/speeches from many gallery artists and teachers and stuff and only one of them actually talked about academics and fundamentals while the rest basically stood there and spent one hour looking at their own navel talking about art in a philosophical lens and yadda yadda. it sucked so fucking much and i feel retarted for wasting my money like that.
i also hate the networking part. so many opportunistic bootlickers.
No. 1768355
>>1768315>>1768325>>1768331>>1768306I'm glad someone mentioned this because I'm honestly blown away by the skill level of a lot of russian artists , I started binge watching and following them on instagram. They really know what they're doing and I would love to take a course by them too.
I'm thinking of making a vk account too, if anyone can recommend tutorials or drawing guides by russian artists I'd greatly appreciate it.
I'm subscribed to AzbukaR on yt and I kinda like his content, and other watercolor artists, but I'm looking for digital artists to follow as well.
No. 1768379
>>1768306I've personally talked with 3 Russian/Slavic artists on twitter because we shared a fandom, and they were all amazing. They were 18,19 and blew all the western artists away with their fanart. I was on a similar level as them, it's how we all became mutuals, but I'm much much older. I was amazed at how good they were being so young. The thing they all had in common was their illustrations had good human proportions, none of them had influence of western cartoons or even anime, but it still looked stylized.
One of the artists is in a new fandom now and she's incorporating 3d animation into her illustrations, so she's now more knowledgeable than me. I remember struggling so much to even draw people at her age. America does not give a shit about teaching art, which also creates an adult populace who does not value art.
No. 1768860
>>1768418>irl would be bestI wish but given the political circumstances, I'll never be able to. I was supposed to visit St Petersburg last year but the war happened.
If anyone knows an online course I'd love to hear about it
>>1768698>The basics are hammered to their skulls unlike anywhere else I've seen.I remember seeing a yt vid from a russian fine arts academy and you could also see what the students were working on, my mind couldn't comprehend how advanced those 20 year olds were, they blew everything western i've seen out of the water
You're so lucky to have visited Repin Academy!
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>>1768306>>1768325i am so jealous, i wish i was japanese or russian(well maybe not now…) they have an insane art scene and their schools actually teach art. My friend who goes to artschool sshowed me the type of work they make her do and i swear to god it's something you can find in an elementary school art class, making art out of macoronis tier assigments. I am so envious of people with access to actual art schools.
No. 1769263
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Has anyone else noticed men hate acknowledging leyendecker was a faggot? it makes me laugh how they try to justify it by saying that drawing hot guys, never marrying or having children and living with a hot male model was doesnt make him gay kek
No. 1769461
>>1769263they don't like to admit past historical figures were gay. even with celebs like freddie mercury or even someone like oscar wilde, they act like they were just a
victim of the other evil gays and that deep down they loved their ex-gf/wife more lol
No. 1769477
>>1768315>>1768325This is true, I'm not russian but as an eastern european it's well known here that russian art schools are HARDCORE when it comes to fundamentals. I'm talking still life and life model studies again and again and again. They don't play with it, so expect to spend 6 hours every day doing studies. They also give pretty harsh critique and have no problem pitting students against each other by showing who is doing better. It's basically the outdated communist style of teaching, but well it does show stellar results.
However in my opinion also focusing on interpretation and style isn't really a bad thing. A lot of my favorite artists are western and I think the art is more dynamic and colorful sometimes
No. 1769490
>>1769461not excusing the behaviour (or even suggesting this being anon's case), but I feel like this has gotten worse thanks to people pushing the idea that some historical figure or other was actually gay (or trans, ugh) when there's no evidence for it or even evidence against it, and so have a kneejerk reaction to the idea at all now even if the person was very much gay kek
also can't forget how you can get a horde of twitter cretins swarming your post on thinking eg Leyendecker is neat and all of them crowing 'he's gay!!!' when you just wanted to talk about art.
No. 1769612
>>1769263Do moids seriously have this issue? Have they been griping about this well documented fact? I'm sure this is a big reason why they'd rather talk about Rockwell til the cows come home because he's safe to talk about.
I prefer Leyendecker but that's because I prefer his technique, I think a lot of zoomies cling to the nearest confirmed gay they can find and say they're a big influence because "gay icon", while not actually studying his work. The trend of "queer for the aesthetic" has fucked the dialog between art and social subjects. Everything needs to be watered down and "comfy qweer" now.
No. 1769767
>>1769477>However in my opinion also focusing on interpretation and style isn't really a bad thing.The problem is that the west is obsessed with interpretation in style to the point it barely teaches you the fundamentals before hammering in the 'MUH STYLE' way of things.
I'd rather be forced hardcore into fundamentals and basics old communist style and actually become a competent and highly skilled artist who later can develop the more subjective part of art and my own style than to get minimal instruction on basic fundamentals and spend the next 12 hours listening some narcissistic artist teacher ranting about how art and meaning and metaphors and shit are important when I can barely life study an apple.
No. 1770020
>>1770007nta but i think it's just a problem of two extremes. one side is too obsessed with subjectiveness and style and "spice" while not caring about the fundamentals, while the other is too obsessed with fundamentals and everything has to be perfect but then there's no flavor in anything.
still, i think i'd prefer being given harsher education on fundamentals. it's much, MUCH easier to figure yourself out as an artist if you have an already solid base that was hammered into your head from a good stern teacher than to do it when you're on your 20's with a decent but ultimately lacking skillset in the basics because you were never actually given any training or education in it and as a result you had to learn on your own without anyone to point out mistakes or give you a reason to actually want to keep improving.
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Leyendecker is still one of the best husbandofags
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I think it's funny how TBrainrot is getting dogpiled (again) for making fun of trannies and not because they're a pedophile. Just goes to show zoomers are fine with disgusting people as long as they agree with them politically
https://dezcallout.neocities.org/ No. 1770140
>>1769072If you're able to go to one and feel you'd enjoy it then go for it, nona. Though, they can get expensive depending on where you are. I do want to do art as a career one day, but didn't want to go to the art universities in my country because most of them have the "muh style method" of teaching, and like other nonas here I prefer what ateliers do
and I feel vindicated by seeing this discussion, my parents genuinely believe university is the only way. But the ones nearest to me are expensive so my only hope is a scholarship, but my art is nowhere near there and I've been self teaching for a while now to whip myself into shape. At this point though cos its taking such a long time maybe I'll go to one when I'm older, and start doing stuff like commissions now. Good luck if you go to one. Are there any nonas here who've been to one?
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does anyone know of more artists who upload speedpaints starting from the sketch?
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>>1771128@aruurara on twitter
he's amazing. I love the brainstorming part at the start, specially since i struggle a lot comming up with poses and composition. Seeing him discard 20 amazing poses is rough for my begginer brain kek.
No. 1771756
>>1771740For straight gesture drawings anyway, forget the idea that the figures need to look "right." It'll make them stiff. Focus more on capturing the energy of the movement, does the motion make sense, does it look balanced, dynamic, etc. Don't try to include details, focus more on the silhouette and simple, larger shapes. Good, flowing gesture will make a disproportionate figure look better and more dynamic. You can have perfect form and anatomy and it will still look wrong if the gesture is stiff, unbalanced, whatever. I watched a lot of videos on gesture drawing but vidrel really helped it stick for me, just watching her doing gesture drawings made it click in a way that's hard to explain. I think Manga Materials has a lot of gesture drawing videos as well.
No. 1771976
>>1771414@aruurara
he's a fatfag so the appeal are all the folds. still an amazing artist. He's one of those rare artists that used to draw soulless coom but completly shift to SFW illustrations.
No. 1773952
>>1772112For every popular "bullshit artist" there are a hundred more with the exact same art style who don't even get attention. Nothing puts me off an artist more than them having a pity party because they don't get enough likes online. Not saying you're exactly like this nona, but I have friends who will cry that their post "flopped" because they only got a few likes and they'll even "threathen" to delete it in public and I get so freaking embarrassed seeing it. They don't even realize that behaviour is keeping them from their goal. I wouldn't want to work with an artist who thretens to delete their own work at an emotional whim, and someone begging me to like their posts only makes me want to not do it. It's fine to want attention or to have your goal be popularity, but to act like a baby because you didn't get what you want is frankly pathetic.
And it's the internet! Things can blow up years after it was posted, you can even repost your own art a year later without having to delete the first one.
I originally come from a traditional art background and there is no way in hell some of the paintings at the local art gallieries would get a single like online. Think abstract color blocking kind of art - they're painfully boring to look at compared to anything on social media. Yet they sell for hundreds of dollars and enough local people love and buy them for the artist to make a living. You define your own success.
No. 1774263
>>1772112I know you didn't ask for my soapbox bullshit specifically, nona, but I feel the same way too. So far, in my experience, it's all about paying more of your attention to the art itself and your relationship with it. Frustration is totally natural. Hell, there are some days where I hate it too, however with the absolute shitshow that is the online art scene nowadays it might suite you more to look at it from a different angle and refresh your perspective on it. Ignore all the subpar twitter garbage, look around for artists in other places that inspire you, and focus only on you and the experience of making your art.
The leg-up that artists like me and you have over the zoomers and their rendermaxxing is that we take art alot more seriously. That desire to improve is important to the craft, but creating itself can be pretty taxing and the only reason you don't see zoomer kids complaining about shit like burnout is because their art is so derivative and low-effort.
I only say all of this because being mindful of yourself as an artist and creative is more crucial than before, what with the commodification of art and the growing disrespect for anyone over the age of 25+ who's been at this for years. It's not going away or getting better anytime soon, so it'd be best for you to step back and evaluate accordingly, but do know that I, personally, don't want you to give up!
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>>1774410 as i understood he himself wrote the document, but the controversies covered there are actual things people accused him of. He just recently started streaming, so there was no real info on whether he's female or not before that. People probably assumed it's a woman, making it easier to try to cancel him.
I also have this weird short recording of the stream, idk why this specific part at the start was recorded kek. If we're being really skeptical, the voice is on a softer side, so it could be a tif too? But i do think it's a moid though
No. 1774531
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>>1773385if youre going to talk about an artist atleast provide screencaps,the way she? draws porn is very tifish no moid would draw himself that small
unless its a troon , although i would say she sucks at drawing real humans
No. 1774635
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I finally found an atelier near me that has art lessons. They have two courses a beginner and advanced so I'm thinking of trying the beginner first even though I'm not really a beginner, I'm self-taught and I'd just like to have some guidance since I don't have any art friends.
I'm kind of EE so the previous conversation here made me hopeful it will be good.
No. 1774860
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Rare Tumblr W
No. 1775256
>>1773952Ayrt, yes, I know exactly the kind of artist you mean and I mute them without a second thought. Playing off the pity of others is pretty skeevy to me. It's one thing to vent every so often, it's another entirely to make that your social media plan essentially. You're on the money.
>>1774263 I'll keep on. Thanks for those reminders.
No. 1775624
>>1772112>I wanna be so good that nobody can ignore it, I wanna be adored and lauded for my efforts.This is why you get nowhere. You can't have the main motivation to draw be the approval of others. You have to want to draw to give life to your ideas/story.
You get demotivated when your post doesn't get any likes, you think what's the point if no one praises me, you get slower and bogged down with these negative thoughts when you start a new drawing. How is this helping you improve?
Also, no one praises artists for their efforts, it doesn't matter how good you are. They'll consume your good art and expect more from you. You need to shift your mindset from pleasing others onto pleasing yourself. That's when you will finally start getting good.
No. 1775753
>>1775624im not the op thanks nona you really streak me with it i was worried about how i will perceived coz i draw mostly dark/edgy/nsfw stuff and most of the fandom produces the normal cute and heartwarming ones plus reposting insane mastery of pieces id thought id have some mind alikes for sharing my doodles
my thoughts are racing and i have feeling like im regressed idk thanks again nona
No. 1775862
>>1775758…be more specific?
I don't on twitter since almost everyone searches by text and not tags (plus twitter hides posts with lots of hastags or if you use the same ones often), but I use tags everywhere else
No. 1775967
>>1775936A lot of anons shit on her, but I love her work.
JasminDarnell
No. 1776322
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>>1775936Maria Dimova on instagram
No. 1776575
>>1763162Why the fuck do people still like her? And surprise, surprise no one is calling her out on her bullshit in the comments and just making up excuses for her having "a different idea of +18" (isn't supposed to be 18+?). She doesn't draw, her storytelling skills are shit, and now she's selling seats for a drawing stream for 36 bucks a pop - a quarter of which have been sold. I'm surprised no one shat on her yet for how popular she is. Even real artists are trying to be nice to her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYSQGV_-A58 Aside from that is there any info on how much she pays her animators (real)? Seems to be the only win/win scenario where either animators finally get compensated well without working to the bone, or she gets ousted for underpaying her staff.
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>>1768306I don't follow russian/Slavic typical artists but crafters and they have a knack for creating that is very rare to see in western artists of the same variety. They tend to lean to more surreal and stylized works and are just very skilled and creatively abundant.
No. 1776807
>>1776209You may be going through a burnout
nonnie,it's alright to feel unmotivated sometimes but I would suggest doing other hobbies which creatively fulfil you or you can just jot down the ideas instead drawing a thumbnail. Stay strong
nonnie relax for a bit it'll be alright!
No. 1776834
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>>1775936Would Miho hirano count?
No. 1776913
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This is a vent nonnas. Previous nonna mentioned some of the things I'm frustrated about but lately just been drawing for myself and focusing on personal projects. I definitely feel more happier whereas before I would draw lots of fanart for whats popular (Genshin, etc) but fell out of love or loss interest temporarily even if they had more engagement.
Been trying to focus more on my personal growth with my art and focus on what makes me happy. It's hard not to get frustrated when they don't get enough engagement compared to my previous content, but I rather make something I love than constantly push out content I don't feel as passionate for. It's a struggle, and I'm trying to find a balance.
No. 1777318
>>1769767This kind of mindset is so perplexing to me. Are you doing art to replicate real life properly? Is photorealism the true endgame of art? Fundamentals are very important but grinding them until you've worked yourself to the bone and
maybe then being able to draw something creative instead of working it into your pieces as you go is senseless, art should be about expressing yourself than being a human copy machine. People glorifying brutal soviet methods always sound to me like they want others to tell them how to do things instead of exploring and experiencing it themselves, that's how you end up with artists that create impressive work but it's on par with AI generation because it's exactly how their teacher made them to be like. Methodology like that works with fields that are based on mathematical formulas and other absolutes, but with art there's the creative aspect that can't be whipped into you by some angry Russian boomer. Think back to kr0nprinz, all his famous pieces turned out to be traced or copied and once he was outed for it his art immediately became void of anything interesting. That's the kind of people a system like that creates to be honest.
No. 1777483
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>>1758716What are fem-gaze elements so that I can apply them to my artwork? I want to try an alternative element to my regular art.
No. 1777885
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Hm yes I do wonder why the like count may have gone down, what a fascinating conundrum, I suppose this mystery shall never be resolved…
No. 1778407
>>1759477Nonnie try to get vtubers attention even the smaller ones can get you constant flow of jobs for them(even more if they ask you to be their model artist)
If you know how to do chibis you can do emotes/panels
If you know how to animate you can offer alerts
If you're the autistic enough as me you can learn live2d and psd cutting for making vtubers models
There are a lot of them that don't use ai for art just for the backlash so they still recurring to artists. Hope my advice help you nonas, we're all going to make it.
>>1776913Hope you can overcome the number rot nona!
I feel the same when drawing nsfw for moids, the art sometimes does good numbers but I don't like their ideas most of the times and I draw them anyways since I need the money.
No. 1778926
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71K people liked an art of Anya going to Auschwitz. The artist posted it on a Holocaust Remembrance day. I'm a racist edgelord and even I don't find it funny. Maybe because I don't even see where's the joke here? Maybe the joke was supposed to be at the audience itself? Because it's obvious that the majority of the people who liked it had no idea what that sign implied and they were historically ignorant, because if they knew, they would be sending hate to the artist and saying it was done in poor taste instead of liking it, because it's twitter. Maybe that's the joke? People being so ignorant and dumb they literally love a cute art of a little girl going to Auschwitz. I'm eastern european and I immediately knew what the sign says. Meanwhile people on twitter and reddit where it was reposted more often than not didn't know and asked what does the sign means because they didn't get what the whole fuss was about. Cringe
No. 1779245
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>>1777887>>1777885>>1777887>>1778376These were posted a day apart kek. And twitter severely did limit visibility of your posts to your followers. Even 100k artists have been complaining about it for a while now.
No. 1779301
>>1778926I thought arbeit Macht Frei was the quote posted above the entrance to dachau
Also, this was already posted here and yes its disgusting asf
No. 1779514
>>1779474You'll say it's cringe anyway.
>>1779506So fucking bleak. I'm already used to pickme women drawing straight up male gaze, as well as women just going straight to BL. I thought she'd be different kek.
No. 1780436
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>uses tape to secure crossbars together
>keeps the tripods nearly closed, which sacrifices stability for height
>normally uses screws to secure crossbars together, the one time it falls apart is when it’s taped
>setup obviously falls apart
>”somebody must have sabotaged me!!!!1!1!”
>garner hundreds of comments encouraging legal action against the con, or speculation that other artists are out to get you because ???????
>con staff actually complies in obtaining security footage
>”well actually I’m not saying somebody DID sabotage me! and even if I did get the footage, it’s for my eyes only”
Are artist alley artists usually this retarded? How has nobody pointed out that their setup was obviously just dogshit? The irony is that these types of setups could fall and destroy their neighbors setup. But they get to dodge accountability for their shit engineering and say other artists are sabotaging them over drawings of genshin impact twinks.
No. 1780735
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>>1780071Kek this reminds me of the comphet fandom theories in fandom thread.
>>1779530Why would I lie about it? I just wanted to vent somewhere. And she sometimes draws atypical/ugly moids, I know the Nonnas will judge her hard for it kek.
(post the artist or fuck off, this isn't your blog) No. 1781606
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Look who can't handle criticism
No. 1781787
>>1780735IDK this theory is based even if it's from some genderspecial Tumblr tard. Asuka is 100% a
TERF queen
No. 1781795
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>>1781606his art is ugly, i am glad he's gone. His artstyle always reminded me of those how to draw manga western books.
No. 1781986
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>>1781606Twitter user waited a couple of months before writing a callout post and only then did Robaato decide to refund him.
https://twitter.com/XLRSTONE/status/1725603246117638242?s=20 No. 1781988
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>>1781986Of course he needed to add some kind of snide ass remark while doing so.
No. 1782234
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Croquis Cafe is getting canceled for being batshit kek
https://twitter.com/goobfer/status/1726769459195781458Sorry 4 bad mobile collage
No. 1782313
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Am i retarded for only sending a paypal.me link through dms? i've seen people just post them out there in the open or sometimes send their e-mail (privately) but i've heard giving out your mail can get you hacked and the paypal.me link i send in private for no reason other than paranoia maybe idk
No. 1782371
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Can my art ever recover from my anime phase? I have been drawing anime since i started drawing, but now i want to start shifting towards realism. Is my art forever going to be stunted thanks to being a weeb?
No. 1782524
(samefagging
>>1782378)
>>1782386I don't know of any artist with a similar style to mine. I draw close to semi-realism but my colouring/shading is very bare and bright, and with sketchy thick black lines. I like emphasising the eyebrow-to-nose line and drawing twin-triangle style upper lip. I have art nouveau/deco inspired style.
No. 1782669
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>>1782371Honestly just use more realistic things as inspiration and it might phase the anime out if that's what you want. I developed my art style as a kid around pokemon so everything I drew had those shiny bug-eyes but have phased it out into semi realism.
>>1782378 I think semi realism is when you have some realism proportions and physics mixed in to your work? And I guess I'd give columbo as an example.
No. 1783070
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Hey there anons, so I'm looking for some new art-tuber commentators who share personal stories or give opinions while streaming. The only one I watch currently is TwistedDisaster since she's closer to my age (30s) and is consistent but lately I just cannot with her anymore. She says a lot of stupid shit, is too involved with retarded gender crap, and just comes off a tad too immature at times considering most of her friends are almost a decade younger than her and makes her complacent in the stupid, common sense stuff she says.
So I was wondering if there are any artist commentators you don't mind recommending that you watch/listen to on Twitch. I like listening to art livestreams when I'm drawing or driving and it would be nice to find some new ones to look into. Would prefer someone who's in their 30s but I'm okay with late 20s as well. And definitely are not pronoun/gender tards or at the very least, they don't bring it up much (if at all).
No. 1783209
>>1783078AYRT and I actually already know of her haha. I agree, she's a lot more tolerable than TD and she doesn't say as much ridiculous stuff like TD does and I especially appreciate that she doesn't seem gendie obsessed, at least not in her videos anyway (no sure about her livestreams). She totally deserves the 100k subs imo.
Thanks nonetheless but just curious, what things have you cringed about with her? lol
No. 1783325
>>1783279>Just her kind of milenial humor and the way she soundsI see lol I guess I don't mind this because I'm a millennial in my 30s myself so it never bothered me at all but I can understand why her style of commentary wouldn't be for everyone. I'm kind of like this myself when I'm watching zoomer art commentators and they say things like "bet" or "my dude" or "LET'S GOOO!" and/or insert meme vid clips into their videos, I personally find that cringe but I'm sure to a zoomer it wouldn't be so it's all about that sense of familiarity I'm sure lol.
That's kinda why Twisted Diaster irks the hell outta me when I'm listening to her Twitch livestreams because she tries to talk like a zoomer because of how her friends tend to be zoomers themselves (among other things, that's ignoring the gendie shit) and I'm like "Ma'am, you're in your 30s, stop." kek
Back to vidrel, she actually did explain why she scripts the videos the way she does in this
>>1783078 where she said that she felt adding some more emotion your commentary can help it from sounding monotone and boring so there's that.
No. 1783827
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I was browsing on pinterest and found this beautiful artwork of some random anime guy. I asked who it was and apparently its someone called dottore from Genshin?! How do they get that from a genshin character? I love genshin artists.
No. 1785148
>>1782313You're fine. But I don't recommend it when doing commissions. You HAVE to send the a invoice made by you with your tos and explicitly saying that the good you are charging for is digital and you don't need to ship anything.
If you ever have problems with your client, you can resolve them more swiftly with an invoice you created.
No. 1785346
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>>1783070I do get what you mean anon. I watched her last stream which was a group one and she happened to have most of her TIF friends in there and it became an annoying mess. It was so cringe how she kept referring to her much younger TIF friend as a "sugar daddy" and constantly validating her "maleness" with the "he/him" pronouns and you hear how she sounds and she sounds like the most stereotypical young girl voice eve.
And Michie was also talking about a webcomic she's been working on and the art is as unappealing as you'd expect with her style but the true cringe factor she shared about it was that there is only one male in the comic but this "male" is just a TIF. Even if you want to believe that women can become men, you have to at least acknowledge that they aren't male. But I'm pretty sure this is all just pathetic virtue signaling to her troon friends. She shared that her last few webcomics had flopped and I can't imagine this new one also not flopping considering the premise is about "sex work positivity" and that the characters represent all sexualities so you can only imagine what that's gonna turn out like. (Picrel is one of the main characters) I'll give her this though, she's ambitious to say the least.
No. 1785716
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>>1785515According to what she said in the stream about her character designs, she said that there is no representation of fat "AFAB" character being sexy unless it fell into fetish territory. So she's creating the cast to be sexy fat characters. Personally I think she just means obese because knowing how she views herself where she doesn't call herself obese but just "chonky" or "thick" when the woman is so big she breathes heavily and has to use a cane at times to walk when she's barely 30, i can just read between the lines of what she really means.
And about her failed webcomics in the past, she claimed in the stream that the reason why they failed was because she tended to write overarching narratives into the stories and that it didn't seem to grab an audience. I can't help but feel that while that may have been something that contributed to it, I feel like it was also just that not many people found her art style appealing neither. It sounds harsh but I have to be honest that aside from her friends who gas up how amazing her art looks, it doesn't mean it'll always translate outside of the friend circle.
No. 1785992
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>>1785802I honestly have no clue kek. I get people have different tastes in fashion and I like kitschy fashion from time to time but some of the looks she comes up with manages to loonlk unappealing. But I'm not sure if it's the clothing that is bad or if it's just her overall art style that makes it look bad.
Even her main OC that she loves to death has a very jarbled design (picrel). I dont think the overall design is bad per say but the white fishnets look atrocious imo.
No. 1786205
>>1786103For me it's the dopey eyes that bother me. Most of her color choices are oversaturated and clash, her designs are tortured and clunky and her bold outlines make everything look like some weird gaudy cut out. Everything she designs looks bloated and like she's trying too hard, relying too heavily on pinterest boards.
Her art truly hasn't improved either, so you can tell she's engrossed in her hug box and not trying anything new.
No. 1786528
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Rolling my eyes at this… you know you could just ask people to promote your work normally right
No. 1786564
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I love the military aesthetic in fanart so much but I also don’t want to dart around the very grave implications of it; not because I’m scared of cancel culture but because I genuinely do not want to glorify the idea of war and murder to myself or anyone else. For example, I love Abbystea’s art so much but it makes me feel ill knowing that both her art and donations from her streams actively spread propaganda and directly fund the Russian military (she publicises this fact, btw). How should I tackle this issue? And how can I create fantasy military uniforms that are far enough removed to avoid evoking propagandist or fascist imagery? Should I just go for it, but try to subvert or critique the subject matter? I’m just thinking out loud…
No. 1786571
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>>1786528That's not very manly of you sweaty
No. 1786577
>>1786564Oh boy abbystea has really good art but the personality of a garbage dumpster fire, it's difficult for me too to admit that I like her stuff. But for your own military art I suggest to make it very clear that it's a fantasy setting and very much removed from reality, like the design of the uniform should be something more unique. Something like the garrison uniform in voltron? Something sci-fi military garb.
>>1786570It's actually a good exercise as a character designer to study what makes the SS uniforms so recognizable and "iconic".
No. 1786657
>>1786564 I'm not seeing what others are seeing about abbystea's art that's so likeable. She just draws moeblobs standing around with Russian propaganda and military themes. Seems like standard fare.
I'm sure what ever it is you end up making is going to be less bland than this, nona. Good luck.
No. 1786715
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>>1786564you are so sensitive, no moid is going to become an alt right nazi from seeing hot bishies in uniform. I draw military moids getting dismembered and raped all the time, worst commentary i ever got was some handmaiden crying about how i was disrespecting all the men who died in nam, as if i care.
No. 1786719
>>1786564>Abbystea’s art so much but it makes me feel ill knowing that both her art and donations from her streams actively spread propaganda and directly fund the Russian military (she publicises this fact, btw)Could someone expand on this for those of us not in the know?
Side note but I looked and her art is very lackluster
No. 1786744
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>For me it's the dopey eyes that bother men
You know what? I think that's my biggest issue as well. Her insistence of drawing eyes big and close together makes the characters she draws look dopey as fuck. I think that's why her "Cleo" character isn't as unsettling to look at since she made her a cyclops. But whenever she draws 2-eyed characters like picrel, you're in for derpy, dopey looking character.
>Oversaturated Colors
>Bold Outlines
Yeah it's funny when you listen to her streams and she goes on and on about how proud she is when it comes to coloring and her mostly young fanbase praise her for it when in reality, it's clear that she's not practicing on things outside of coloring and inking. I feel like she thinks that if she makes her colors overly detailed, it'll distract from how amateurish her overall style is. Take away the colors and you'll see it more.
>Her art truly hasn't improved either, so you can tell she's engrossed in her hug box and not trying anything new.
That definitely seems to be the case because the way she draws characters hasn't changed. Whenever she claims she's doing something new, it's usually coloring or inking related. It's funny how back then she said she would love to use her art for a cartoon series (not sure if she still feels that way now, it's mostly webcomics this time around) and could you honestly imagine a cartoon series using her art style?
No. 1786765
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>>1786657>>1786719She has strong fundamentals. Well at least in comparison to the average genshin artist her drawings, despite still being anime, have more flow. Even if the subject matter is usually portrayed in a coomer pose the proportions are realistic so it doesn't look like an exaggerated bimbo caricature. It's a bit hard to explain but she's clearly skilled. Solid rendering too.
No. 1786826
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>>1786564>>1786765Kek this looks like another dime a dozen artist who over rely on tracing 3D models. This could be something out of the likes of koikatsu
No. 1786969
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I'm so sick of this trend, I wish women didn't hate themselves.
No. 1787008
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How do I stop comparing myself to professional artists if I’m a hobbyist
No. 1787030
>>1786858 I don't get it either. "Strong fundamentals" doesn't mean anything if you're just going to stagnate into being a genshit artist. It's not even an interesting iteration of the characters like some artists can pull off it's just bland, samey anime waifu draped over 'strong foundation'.
It's not bad art. It's fine. But i recognize it's not for me!
No. 1787037
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>>1786963I mean, I checked her? YT and she models and traces a full BG in one. The level of detail/dynamics is pretty varied on pieces that are actually shown from sketch to final. If you’re familiar it’s easy to see what’s directly lifted from models.
No. 1787041
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Compare the blob going on with the yellow hair to the meticulous detail she’s apparently capable of elsewhere. These are the kind of inconsistencies I’m used to noticing at least.
No. 1787102
>>1787008Humility. Accept that although you may never "quite" reach a professional level (and it varies to each art genre) you do art because it fulfils your creative satisfaction trust me when money and career is involved in art it loses a bit of its magic, you at best must prioritise your own happiness in your art.not compare with people who've gone to art schools and worked like crazy to reach a level to be hired among many artists who same as them have done more a continuous competition. do not think this makes you less of an artist just think that it's their job and you have a privilege to enjoy it without being concerned how to make a living out of it, do not concern yourself with them
nonnie find your own happiness art envy exists in all of us even I as a professional artist sometimes am jealous of my peers works and continue to improve myself. it's just being part of being an artist.
No. 1787110
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>>1787041i follow artists who openly trace from 3D models and their art looks very obviously traced even if they are good artists. I dont think she traces 3Dmodels
No. 1787165
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>>1786969Just another case of "draw woman but call it not a woman for more likes", though when a male artist does this its some trap fetish thing, and when a woman does this it attracts tifs instead
No. 1787222
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>>1786969>it’s this characterWew lol
No. 1787444
>>1786777The character is an actual nazi kek
>>1786564Just do it, but be aware that not everyone will like it, and it depends on what uniforms you're drawing. People draw soldiers all the time and a lot of people don't mind. It's just if they look like nazis or if you're drawing actual propaganda then people will get mad. And even if you do military uniforms that are somewhat based on nazis, just don't include the red armband and you're completely fine. Don't listen to people who tell you "just do what you want" because they don't understand the art you produce has consequences on you and your image.
No. 1787528
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>>1768306That’s something I’ve noticed too, as I’ve seen 15 year old Russian girls on tiktok that draw god tier level art. This makes me just a little insecure, but I’m only 3 years off from that age I guess. One artist that catches my eye is pyanyasha. Her lighting, composition, and especially proportions are well done, especially considering her age, only being 15 or 16 now.
No. 1787854
On the topic of rendermaxxing god I wish I could rendermaxx. I've went through so many color tutorials and color dissection videos but I just can't fucking get it, the moment I start to color one my artworks it just starts to look bad. I think my technique is good but when it comers to rendering I must be miss retardo or literally colorblind. Although since I last discussed this with another anon last thread I've started to literally color pick from other artists and my stuff looks better? Maybe I need honest to god professional tutoring live with someone or something.
I think the hardest part my little brainletto brain can't grasp is not being able to reliably tell color warmth and saturation. Like yeah sure I can tell when a piece of art is warm or cold but if I have to select them on the menu myself I'll have no fucking clue.
>>1787841Krita
No. 1787863
>>1787854Well, most colors are only cold or warm in relation to others and saturation just means how intense it is. You could broadly say that red is warm, but you can also have a cold red when it's between warmer tones. In the end it depends mostly on your feeling. But rendermaxxers don't care about theory, all they know is cold = blueish/purple shadow and warm = yellow/orange overlay. They just follow tutorials without understanding, that's why there are so many of them out there calling the terminator a "colorful band next to the shadow, idk what it's called but make it bright orange!". This video showcases it quite well, the guy has no fucking idea how to paint clothing folds but if you add enough bullshit detail and effect layers it ends up looking fine enough for normies and beginners to praise you.
You say you already went through tutorials, but did you just read/watch them or did you copy them exactly? Keep copying/colorpicking and playing around with adjustment layers until you get a feel for it and don't worry if you can't pick good colors immediately, many artists start their pieces with boring ones and then adjust until it looks better
No. 1787884
>>1787878Paint tool Sai is actually a paid software, it was just easy to pirate so back in 2011 everyone on Devianatrt would share their cracked downloads kek.
I tried to download it again (I was looking for a program without fancy options so I'm forced to practice more rather than using filters, liquify etc to hide my errors) and turns out 95% of the downloads around have viruses, very small ones, but still viruses. I haven't been able to find a fully clean version
No. 1787897
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>>1787888This is from her faq in telegram, apparently she's been drawing digitally since 2016.
No. 1787954
>>1787030I know this is lolcow but maybe it's because plenty of artists actually do enjoy genshit. I've seen significantly worse artists here being hailed as drawing good shit.
>>1787528I'm older then you and had this same feeling around a decade ago. From that experience I can tell you that out of those 15 year old prodigies, half actually improve and the other half stagnates and never goes beyond what they got popular for at 15.
No. 1787981
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>>1787863>but did you just read/watch them or did you copy them exactly?Admittedly I didn't. I usually learn by watching a metric shit ton of content and absorbing it through osmosis, and if you're right my problem might be that I'm just waiting for that magical flip to switch and reach full information saturation and automatically understand colors. Hasn't happened, so. I'll put in some leg work.
>all they know is cold = blueish/purple shadow and warm = yellow/orange overlay.This is autistic sperging at this point but I swear that multiply shading is a joke everyone is in on but me. It makes me seethe to no end to see friends I personally know as well as random artists make purple multiply work. You guys must be using those illegal eldritch forbidden colors HP Lovecraft wrote about. Maybe I'm being sabotaged by the overall color picking of the whole drawing being bad? I don't know if I'm making sense but what I mean is if the colors are shit in the first place using that multiply crutch (which I shouldn't be using in the first place) just makes my drawings look worse
>but if you add enough bullshit detail and effect layers it ends up looking fine enough for normies and beginners to praise you.This is tryhard behavior coming from a person who doesn't understand colors well in the first place but this feels like cheating. It feels like if I keep using this crutch too I'll definitely never learn how to color.
No. 1787989
>>1786528Her arts neat
>>1787930No offense but generic anime art doesn't really do it for me, but this is still really impressive considering the artists age alone. They could be drawing digital horseshit and it'd still be impressive for that reason. I recall hearing something along the lines of "you have to know the rules to break it" from art tubers and artists on social media yet some claim that they just suddenly "learned art". It's clear that hours of practice is the only way to learn. Also it's hard to knock anime anatomy as it's bullshit either way and heavily stylized. It's hard to knock most anime design since it's all inbred looking and same face like most fugly western art, with few exceptions.
No. 1788017
>>1787981Definitely try to make some copies then. I used to think the same as you, but just seeing and trying to apply it immediately isn't very easy or helpful. It's better to follow step by step, as closely as you can, and then apply what you learned on something else. But be aware that your version might still look off to you, even if you use the same brushes and colors. That's just because you made it yourself and you can't judge the result correctly. This works mostly for lines, but overlaying the two images would help identify mistakes, otherwise you will have to get back to it in some months when you've developed your eye through further practice. Just don't get too discouraged to keep trying is what I mean.
I really can't imagine the purple multiply not working haha maybe try picking the used shade directly from a tutorial, sometimes it's included. It's usually pretty bright and close to magenta. If your base colors are dull you can adjust the saturation with a slider or just use gradient maps if your program has them. Or check your programs color settings, I found for example that my screen was way too bright on the device I drew on, so I had to double check every piece on a different one.
And don't be afraid to use what you consider crutches or cheating, that's what rendermaxxing is. Many professional artists also use them and the guy from the video is going to continue abusing effect layers while improving other aspects, so in the end he would have a collection of good pieces that only get better as he learns fundamentals and stops relying on certain tricks. It's not lazy to polish up your artwork with filters, I'd say its almost necessary if that's the kind of look you'd like your art to have
No. 1788018
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>>1787917Isn’t this illegal?
No. 1788078
>>1788018I'm not sure but as a commissioner I certainly wouldn't want a minor drawing a lewd commission for me. And aren't hentai and 18+ basically the same thing?
Also kek at how proship is somehow just as bad as the other two things in that category. Especially because the bar for proship is incredibly low.
No. 1788358
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>>1788341Sad that her fundies suck, the perspective and anatomy is a bit uncanny but her work is beautiful otherwise
No. 1788382
>>1788341Once you understand how to render materials like glass, fabric, metal, etc. you can do this. Like you said, it only takes time. If you don't know what you're doing, it will take 5x as much time.
Also, starting drawings with the perspective figured out like this artist did is what you should always do. You are actually drawing on hard mode when you don't draw on a perspective grid. This video makes perspective really easy.
No. 1788383
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>>1788358These cats seem traced so maybe she's just tracing over objects and coloring them?
No. 1788391
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>>1788383I doubt it, with the cats she was probably just copying a reference closely and it turned out wonky because she doesn't have the practice to make animals look natural. Some pieces of hers do get close to those photobashed point&click games though. Like the things on the table don't fully follow the perspective of it, so they end up looking pasted on in a weird way
No. 1788526
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anyone else find it insanely weird that this artist was happy to take all of the credit for this mascot design when they knew fully well they were completely referencing it 1 to 1 from another artist?
No. 1788528
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>>1788526og artist's work that the client fully admit they told the new artist to reference
No. 1788568
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Nonnies who deal with chronic hand/arm-related pains, how do you deal?
A year ago I developed tendonitis in my dominant hand and it's been a struggle to keep drawing. Most days I can't even write and have to keep my hand in a cast almost constantly. It's made me quit drawing over the past half year or so, and makes me so depreesed. I don't want to end up like the genshin artist who draws with their feet (though I do admit it's impressive)
No. 1788573
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What kind of study methods do you have? I like to find old art i like and redraw it in my style.
No. 1788606
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>>1788591i knew it was ai,that face is way too uncanny
No. 1788610
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>>1788573I love trying to redraw weird images like picrel, mostly because I want to work in more semi-realistic painterly style and it's a good destresser, kek.
>>1788606>>1788591Nasty, I thought they stopped doing anything with AI like well over a year ago.
No. 1788638
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>>1788606looks like AnnaSophia Robb
No. 1788846
>>1788606the artist posted a speedpaint when she did it, and some of her big name friends got pissed and started yelling about why the "ai accusations" haven't been taken down. probably why so many comments were removed.
still, she did ai paintovers in the past. even if it isn't ai, it's too pretty to the point where it's ugly, imo
No. 1789153
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I think I'm experiencing a major art burn out. I'm gonna be boothing at an anime convention soon but I don't feel excited about it at all. Instead, I just feel anxious and stressed out doing merch preps and thinking about wasting more money on hotel and printings and transport and shit (which my sales would probably not cover the costs considering the current economic situation). I just feel like quitting! I want to withdraw myself from the artist alley/anime convention scene indefinitely since I'm not enjoying it anymore and I can no longer relate to the younger artists/newer anime con scene but I feel so torned because I've been doing artist alley at least once a year for years. My art is also super dated and I don't get a lot of sales at conventions anymore. I easily got mogged by other younger talented artists. I'm also tired of keeping up with the social media game. I can't seem to make genuine art friends anymore. All the artists I met just cares about making money at anime conventions and gaining popularity on social media. I miss just weebing out about your favourite anime/manga because you really love the said anime/manga and not because you're following the trend and want to make quick bucks selling shitty plastic trinkets. Nowadays, everyone moves on too quickly to the next flavour of the month. It sucks. Sorry for the nonsensical vent. I'm just tired of it all. Also, fellow 30 yrs old and above artists, how do you guys make art friends that you can weeb out with and that are not too sjw-ish (can we be friends)?
No. 1789288
>>1789153I feel you. I'm no convention/artist alley participant, but I'm just so tired of how nowadays most online artists only create for the sake of money and clout. It always makes me feel horrible about my own art output, that I create slowly but that's because I want to enjoy every bit of the process and care little for the end result, but as we all know social media and followers want rapid-fire posts and if you don't post often they turn their backs on you.
I just want other artist friends to chat and create with without some cloud of money/clout/internet fame over my head.
No. 1789327
>>178915330+ nona here, wishing you the best. I just started tabling recently and I get so nervous about it. I'm not trendy and I don't really care much about what's popular enough to draw it and spend money on merch for it so I'm always feeling like nobody's gonna care about my work but I'm usually greeted by people who do.
I am very tired of the artist alley community constantly scrambling to the next popular thing or people coming in asking "what's popular?" So they can cash in on it. It's a waste. I wished there were more people who didn't care about any of that and just were confident enough to do their own thing. I think a lot of it has to do with the sudden influx of post pandemic zoomers and their tendency of trying to make as much money as possible. now the usual way artist alleys function is fucked up. You used to at least have a shot at making friends over the thing you love but now it's all chasing trends.
Sorry for what you're going through. I hope you find your passion in some other outlet! Wished we could be friends!
No. 1789372
>>1789327>I am very tired of the artist alley community constantly scrambling to the next popular thing or people coming in asking "what's popular?" So they can cash in on itAs someone who always browses artist alley because I love art I'm always looking for unique art styles and things I haven't seen before. But even I have to admit I like some cute current trends too. But the thing there is that if 50 artists did their own take on the Current Trendy Thing I will still only buy 1, and it will only be THE best one of the 50, leaving 49 artist without a sale. Wheras if I find a unique cool arist I'm much more likely to buy from them because there's little to no competition for it.
I also now avoid buying from anyone who sells anything gender related, which cuts out a lot of people at the local cons. I can't imagine they even sell many of their 500 different combos of pronoun pins. How many "he/xe/them" are there really at a con and once she's bought 1 pin why would she need another?
No. 1789768
>>1789153I understand you anon even though I don't do artist alley or cons. I'm 33 years old and been into the online art scene since 2004 and I've noticed this shift on how younger online artists tend to view the art fandom scene where it seems like it's all about chasing and quickly discarding trends and money, money, money. It doesn't help that for me personally, I find it harder to get into newer anime and I'm simply content with the anime I grew up with or finding anime that came out around that time (the early to mid 2000s) which is very dated by today's standards (think Inuyasha, Yu Yu Hakusho, Fullmetal Alchemist, etc). I can't relate with the hype of My Hero Academia, Demon Slayer, Haikyou, Jujutsu Kaisen, etc. you know, the ones that are very popular at this point in time. It can make talking with younger artist very difficult since I can't relate with this stuff and they can't really relate with mine, different generations and all.
And I wish I could offer advice on how to meet art friends to vibe and nerd out with but I'm lost on this myself. I haven't had an online artist friend group in almost a decade since my old friends, we sorta drifted apart and it's been so hard to try to make new art friends because of what you mentioned with the money mindset and trend chasing. I honestly feel like streaming culture has sorta ruined anime fandom. Back in the day we had to wait weeks on end to get new episodes of anime and we didn't have streaming services like Netflix or Hulu that rushed out a whole series altogether to where you could watch it within a week to even a day or two. The former way allowed viewers more time to sit with shows and truly absorb what we were watching compared to now where attention spans are getting shorter and binging a show doesn't give you time to actually sit and bask in the atmosphere of the show which is why it's so easy to quickly discard and move onto the next trending anime and rinse and repeat.
Anyway as for the con stuff, if you're feeling unmotivated and don't really feel like working them, I'd say to take a break. There's no shame in that and it sounds like you are definitely getting burned out so a break is definitely in order. Give some time to yourself to rest.
>>1789288>t always makes me feel horrible about my own art output, that I create slowly but that's because I want to enjoy every bit of the process and care little for the end result, but as we all know social media and followers want rapid-fire posts and if you don't post often they turn their backs on yFeel this so fucking much. It's why I miss when DeviantART was popular. It wasn't algorithm focused and you could take your time with your work. It sucks because it feels like it's hard to get feedback on your week and commence weebing out. I post new illustrations of fanart every so often and it barely gets interaction whereas back on the DA days, I got a bit more engagement and had some fun discussions as well.
>>1789327>but now it's all chasing trends. And masking networking with "friendship" it seems.
No. 1789780
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>>1783070I know this is kind of an old comment but I agree with the weirdness of her style. I really started to take notice how off her art looked when I saw her working on Helluva Boss fanart merch. I know that Helluva Boss has a love/hate type of deal with artists here but seeing how Twisted did her take on the characters was awkward. Her take on Blitzo looked okay but the others were wonky, Millie being the worst example. Picrel since she hasn't posted the illustration, just merch images.
No. 1789910
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>>1789850Yeah like I said, not great. Here's a bonus, her take on Fizzarolli which is the second worse of her Helluva Boss merch.
No. 1789918
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>>1789780>>1789850And here is Moxxie and Blitzo. Like I mentioned in my other comment, I don't think that Blitzo looks as bad. And Moxxie looks okay… Ish. But Millie and Fizz look wretched. And I can only imagine what Loona, Stolas, and Octavia are gonna look like when she gets around to them kek.
No. 1789927
>>1789153It's very sad seeing artist alley being taken over by twitter genshit flavor-of-the-month crap but I'm glad there are still a handful of passionate and unique artists there. It's fun finding hidden gems from series that I love that aren't new or super popular. I also adore styles that some would call dated. What I'm trying to say is that I would absolutely buy your art
nonnie, but do what you need to do for your mental health. If it's not bringing you joy, don't feel obligated to do it.
No. 1790065
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when it comes to commission prices, how much is "too much"?
I'm thinking of raising the price a little, but I'm also afraid of losing my current +3 year clients.
I think pic rel is completely exaggerated and retarded, but is it? Maybe I'm in the wrong here.
No. 1790123
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>>1790100Didn't know what you where talking about so I had to search it. I miss it when I was 1 minute ago kek
And this is the image from a interview he did, he gets interviewed drawing shit like this??
No. 1790213
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Is Tumblr even worth using to post art anymore?I've been terminated for no reason whatsoever and feel like Tumblr wasn't really worth it at the end.I feel like if you're super popular you're art will always get attention with tons of notes and reblogs but if you're not what's the point it kinda sounds retarded i know.I always saw beginner level artists blaze their art only for them to get 4 notes lol unless it's fandom related then it's probably going to blow up it really depends tho
No. 1790612
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Does anyone feel like western comic/animation indie community is absolutely creatively bankrupt? seeing the kind of things people put time and effort into is making me insane
>lsmark pilot is just tom and jerry meets bojack horseman in the style of butch hartman
>mr enter pilot is some weird ageplay nonsensical bullshit that makes no sense, just KND but worse
>pan pizza's pilot is just jojos but uglier and with some weird breeding kink
>smiling friends is just lolsorandom AS crap
>harry patridge starbians is some boring scifi movie parody that got old 5 minutes in
>hazbin/helluva is just edgy demon crap for gendie preteens
>monkey wrech is boring, generic saturday morning generic trash
>dont get me started on daftpina's saturday's off failed pilot
>lore olympus is just harry potter mixed with all YA novel tropes on earth
not like the mainstream animation is any better, but i will take one Primal every 20 years over whatever the fuck all of this is. I feel like no one can come up with anything original anymore, it's all heavily inspired by something else. I dont mind people taking small inspirations from stuff, like how madoka's art direction might be inspired by stuff like Suspiria(it was actually inspired by an specific soviet type of style but i dont remember it now), but there is a difference between inspiration and just regurgitating what has been done a million times before.
No. 1790634
>>1790612What kinda stuff would you rather see instead? Just curious.
I feel like monkey wrench could have been better if the characters weren't so fucking ugly or had better voices.
No. 1790716
>>1790689I don't wanna say too much cuz I'm embarrassed (and I don't want you fiends stealing my ideas kek) but the MC is a brutish barbarian woman who gets labelled a hero even though her goals are ultimately selfish. Like, dragons are terrorizing people so she starts killing them, but she isn't doing it to save people, she just loves the taste of roasted dragon meat. She gathers a "adventurer party" but she really just pays people to carry her stuff on journeys. She allies herself with a powerful wizard, not because she wants friendship but because she wants the utilitarian benefits a wizard can offer her. Of course as the story goes on she would get character development and start gaining empathy etc etc.
I know it's autistic plz no bully
No. 1790945
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>>1790821Literally, because what is this shit. And there's countless more examples of things from mangled hands to ugly character design. Get your bag, I guess. What bothers me is Rachel Smythe wants to call this a feminist retelling while she does it.
No. 1791075
>>1790821Same. This isn't a humble brag or anything but regardless of the quality of my work I wish I had some measured delusional self confidence. Even in the worst hypothesis that my shit sucks and I'm an irredeemable talentless autist, I still got my content out there. I wish I was an animation nepo baby or something I can't believe I have to work my way up this is trash
>>1790945Genuine question and not bait but who is the Lore Olympus demographic? Who's reading it?
No. 1791267
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I am going insane i just want to be able to rendermaxx i spend 1 hours doing the lineart then 60 hours erasing and repaint and erasing and repainting and it never looks good
No. 1791344
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what are some high quality guoache/watercolors i can ask for? this fag i am e-dating wants to gift me some stuff and i want to run him dry of his money before i dump him
No. 1791352
>>1791267you gotta find the right brushes nona
(don't ask me, i'm also struggling with rendering)
No. 1791358
>>1791344KEK nonna. Here are my recs,if you want some of the best and on the more expensive side
Watercolors: Schmincke, Winsor&Newton (NOT COTMAN, that's their student range), Sennelier, Mijello Mission Gold
Gouache: Winsor&Newton, Holbein Artists Gouache
I'd ask for some 100% cotton watercolor paper while I'm at it too, I recommend Fabriano Artistico or Saunders Waterford. And maybe some kolinsky sable brushes. Might as well go the whole route.
No. 1791488
>>1791486> "man booba"just wanna say this pisses me off so much , it's not boobs it's PECTORALS for fuck's sake
yes,this makes me irrationally mad
No. 1791630
>>1791488Same, pecs are hotter anyways. If a guy has moobs he’s fat and gross.
>>1791451Kek I stopped reading around the Minthe arc idk the red skin demon was jealous of her ex (pic quoted) and somehow Persephone is powerful or something. I don't think they’re official yet. The story is pretty flimsy and even with color coded characters I can’t recall their names. Is she the only one keeping webtoons afloat?
No. 1792090
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do you have any artists you liked that dropped off the face of the internet or stopped posting?
I just remembered minmonsta, she used to be one of the big copic artists years ago and I like her art even today, although it could be labelled as "generic"
No. 1792115
>>1791954I’ve thought about it too if only to help me be consistent but for your question I would say I personally like videos like Waffles showing the step by step process or time lapse showing sketches/thumbnails helps too. I also enjoy reviews of products. Sarah Burns has a great series on reviewing gouache for lightfastness and life expectancy (she’s done mold experiments). It also depends if you want to show your face or not too, but I think laid back content is always a need. Less drama more knowledge.
>>1792090Mark Ulloa seems like a step up from this but still anime style with copic. I remember Elfwood/Elwood back in the day and there were some amazing pencil drawings which I’m sure would be considered mid today lol. A lot my DA faves haven’t updated in years. Theres a certain charm about that style though.
No. 1792220
>>1791954I've thought about getting into YT my>>1783078
self. I wanted to get into art commentary like
>>1783078 and share stories. I know it wouldn't be original but I like listening to art storytimes and I think it might be potentially interesting to share my own stories as an artist in my 30s because most of the ones I come across tend to be younger artists around like 19-23.
No. 1792582
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>>1792090Skippymoosh/skippykangaroo. I remember growing up seeing her artwork on Deviantart and being awed at her creature designs. I recall she later majored in fine art at a university where she made more traditional fine art paintings and then just disappeared shortly after. This is one of the few pieces I can find from her DA days and it's from 2004. She made stuff like this when she was in high school which blew my mind as a child. Unfortunately, I can't find any larger images even via archive.org trawling. I feel like it's a shame she doesn't post her work anymore because she had some major potential for a career in creature design.
No. 1793053
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>>1792090I will always be sad that my fave harry potter fanartist on lj (mneomosyne) dropped off the face off the earth forever ago. both ehr serious illustrations and her silly ones were amazing, she took a lot of i spiration from calssical art but in a way that suited the characters too. there was a lot of thought put into it.
No. 1793056
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>>1792090she came back after going MIA for 2+ years but her style degraded…
No. 1793298
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>>1790193Some anons here really seem to love the starving artist trope
>>1790307I mean, yeah? If you want to make money you gotta market yourself one way or another. That doesn't make someone bad.
>>1792090Mivvu. Loved her style but she seems to have deleted all her presence online. You can find a few of her works on some of the boorus but that's it.
No. 1793411
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>>1792090Nuriko-kun / banafria. Used to be big on dA in the early 2010s. Looking back at her work now is really nostalgic to me, she used to be one of my biggest inspirations back then. Particularly her original work/characters were so evocative, I still think she could have made such a cool manga if she kept with it (still i'm curious about the story all these years later)… sadly she gradually stopped posting and then dropped off the internet completely a few years back.
No. 1793940
>>1789153I am in the same boat as you nona, 30s, doing cons, cannot relate to pandemic zoomers who saturated the anime con scene after 2020. Mostly, I hate how Consumer artist alley has gotten. I know, you're supposed to sell things, but the things people are selling have gotten so expensive to produce. Enamel pins, ita bags, clothes, hats, etc. It feels like you can't even get into juried alleys anymore if you just sell prints. It just feels like soulless business, you don't need to be good at drawing to make a pin or bag, and the weebs buying don't care about how the thing looks, as long as it has their favorite character. The generic cute products look like cheap shit from aliexpress or temu.
My advice would be to move away from the anime scene, and focus on comic cons/fantasy cons, which are a lot more welcoming to original art styles. Emerald City, GenCon, C2E2. The competition is much tougher because the artists are insanely good, but it feels less soul-sucking than drawing a hundred acrylic charms to pollute the environment with.
No. 1794072
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>>1793411Nuri was one of those artists I just followed because I liked her style so much, even if I wasn't into all the fandoms she drew art for (ie. Nirvana in Fire). I even bought her Touken Ranbu Okitagumi fanbook… I really miss her and her art. Really wish we could have seen more of Parashi, she's an artist I often think about and wonder what she's doing/if she still draws.
No. 1795535
>>1795462I'd suggest to dump your art and not engage much with anyone beyond that because even if you try staying out of drama someone else you've talked to once could slip up and now you're suddenly under pressure to release a press statement denouncing them kek but it also depends on the fandom of course. If yours is for any gacha that has english language you're really better off just posting and leaving, it's impossible to identify and block all weirdos who might cause you trouble. Especially because they tend to seethe quietly in their groupchats only to explode on you one day and because having them blocked could already be taken as "evidence" of you being a bad person or whatever.
If you still want to try making fandom friends by interacting and posting more I'd advise you to generally never share anything about yourself when you're making text-only tweets and try not to make yourself seem too friendly/silly or online when posting publically. If someone gets a random callout it's because they're considered annoying or weird first and foremost, everything else is simply piled on top. And if you ever do get one yourself you can literally ignore it. Stay offline for half a week and then continue posting like usual. You can delete the posts in question and apologize if that makes you feel better, but the people pressuring you won't care anyway. If you look up artists who had big callouts made on them you can see that it didn't affect anything but their mental state for that time. The truth is that the percentage of people who care about drama and following the correct people is pretty small but loud and if people follow you for art they'll stay for it too
No. 1795557
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>>1795548nyantchamaybe I'm disconnected from the reality that is digital art now, but those prices are ridiculous
I've seen other artists do amazing art for less
coomers ruin everything I swear
No. 1795563
>>1795546>>1795548>>1795557Sorry
Nonnie but how old are you?
NSFW artists making big banks is an open "secret" guess why most artists do furry commission despite not being a furry?
Same with gay moids. The male hornyness knows no limits.
No. 1795613
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Nonnies how do you reject a art commission you took on for "exposure" its quite time consuming and I've gotten stuck to hers constant whining how poor she is and can't afford it so I took pity and took her on,now I'm stuck with something that's 30+hours of work how do you politely reject someone? I don't want to work for free she's intending to use it for her streams now(which I didn't agree too) I feel like she's just taking advantage of me(which she is) I just want her to stop pestering me
No. 1795955
>>1795618>>1795613THIS. As a commissioner, twitch users have soooo many revenue options, theres no reason there not money aside for their weeb shit, games, food, and not have money for art commissions. You did yourself a disservice and like anon says that I quoted, say you got a big paid bid and unfortunately aren't able to continue free work.
If they throw a fit, I 100% promise you everyone, but her friends, will side with you. E-begging to get free art makes you a community pariah. This thot has absolutely no real stake in it and most likely wouldn't have even tipped you. Probably would mention you once, that it was free, and send more e-beggings cunts to you for free shit too.
Seriously, decline to finish AND DO NOT SEND HER THE WORK YOU'VE DONE SO FAR! People like this will finish it through ai and won't credit you.
No. 1796081
>>1795546don't be tricked into it anon, very few make it without selling themselves completely. My nsfw art posts used to get 10k likes easy, but that doesn't automatically means money. You can do commissions/patreon but getting porn commission destroys your soul, especially when asked fetish stuff. If you put boundaries like I used to you won't make more than 200 a month. If you wanna make merch it's hard to sell as nsfw content is banned almost anywhere and, well, very few will just hang a picture of drawn porn in their room.
Drawing pron killed my creativity for like a year. You can make it with safe stuff if you're interesting enough
No. 1796084
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>>1792090I would say Miilily/pastelpinkwitch on DeviantArt. When I started drawing, I used to consider her art as the ultimate goal for digital art. She used to do a lot of Owari No Seraph fanarts back in the day, but after a sudden art style shift (that personally I don’t like) now she seems to have disappeared from the internet. This piece is from 2018.
No. 1796219
>>1796088seconded, i dont know any, especially i want to know their methods of putting light and make high res clear works (with barely no line)
english speaking yt channels researching popular asian artists
tppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUvP5lTL8zIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCgSRtDRR-8oridays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc19XdEe8qghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ_VzCoitGk No. 1796232
>>1796219this might help
nonnie! he also shared a psd file you can download to practice on
No. 1796377
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So I've decided and I'm thinking of gifting myself an iPad for Xmas because I want to jump on the procreate bandwagon. I'm aiming for the iPad Air 5 2022 10.9 256 gb since I can find it for a decent price (880 EUR is very decent atm and I'm buying it in 12 month installments) .
If I'd have a bugger budget, what would you nonnas recommend? Do you think the one I'm going for is ok? I plan to use it exclusively for drawing.
I know I also have to buy an Apple Pencil 2 , is there any difference between the gen 1 and 2 pencils?
No. 1796610
>>1796392I played with some ipads in a store. I've had a screen tablet for a while now so it's not something entirely new, just the iOS environment.
>>1796403really good to know, so apple pencil 2 is a must
No. 1796733
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being self-taught sucks. idk what to do, i feel directionless. im trying to draw more and actively improve my art but i havent picked up my stylus in a while because i feel so overwhelmed. theres so much i have to learn. i wish i had a teacher to guide me but i cant sign up for any classes/courses because i dont have the money. if any of you have advice i would appreciate it, like what are some good resources for self taught artists? and what kind of studies/exercises should i be doing if i want to improve? i dont wanna be a beg anymore, i actually want to start taking my art seriously but i am not a very disciplined person and i tend to get kinda lazy
No. 1796743
>>1795557At least they're not drawing loli. That's pretty rare for coomer scrotes nowadays.
I've noticed that a lot of popular nsfw artists have vaguely animu styles with simple features, thin lines and 95% rendering.
Moids have proven time and again that they'll happily pay money to jerk it to anything so long as their favorite sex parts are all there. It doesn't even have to be good so long as it's not obviously bad. AI porn is as prevalent as it is purely because a moid's boner doesn't care about freaky uncanny shit like hair melting into clothes, hydra fingers, double-stacked assholes, or pussies without identifiable inner labia or clitorises. As long as there are big, shiny balloon tits, noseless anime babyfaces and shapes that vaguely resemble a woman, they're willing to fork over their cash.
No. 1796773
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>>1792090I loved janrheeee's art. She had a decent-sized following on Twitter and was active in making pieces for zines, taking comms, etc. when she suddenly disappeared off the internet in 2019. I still really love her style and hope she resurfaces sometime.
No. 1796774
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>>1796773This piece of hers lives in my head rent free. It's so calming but also so cute.
No. 1796888
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This thread often talks about the negatives of western artists, so I think there should be more recognized given to the good ones. How about talking about some of the good western artists.
For mine, plastiboo has a memorable artstyle that is very different than a lot of artists. I like how creepy it is.
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>>1796888Oh I adore plastiboo, I love how the detail is controlled in his art. I need to get that artbook he worked on.
I personally have a soft spot for babezord (picrel) and cursehole, they both have that sort of feeling that some Alexsandra Waliszcekwa cat paintings have, even though their art skills aren't quite that refined.
No. 1797116
>>1796967nonna I'm 30+ and considering doing this, I have 0 shame
nobody has to know your real age
No. 1797415
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>>1796967You have no obligation to say your real age online so don't do it. I had artist friends in high school who pretended to be two or three years younger, they were 17 and they put "15 y.o" in their bios. I never said anything because I wasn't an online artist yet, but they told me that it was quite common for artists to fake their age. Since then I no longer trust the ages that people put in their bios.
No. 1797495
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Is it possible to even gain friends in art communities anymore without ass kissing?I'm tired of complimenting other's people's art just to get some interaction and followers it's so joyless and boring. im gonna sperg like a boomer but I felt like making friends back then in the 2010's was so much easier and genuine in art spaces than it is now.everything is so soulless and cold.
No. 1797580
>>1797495Agree.
To add to this I hate how so many artists on social media insist that you as a follower of their art have an obligation to like and interact with all of their content so they can keep traction. It's entitled and whiney to the core. I don't want to waste hours of each day giving fake ass compliments to the 200+ accounts I follow.
No. 1797586
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>>1796888This might be more cutesy than what everyone else is posting, but I like magnagallina. Her artstyle is cute.
No. 1797708
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>>1796888I love the work from this unusually good fnaf artist
No. 1797717
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>>1797708that's super cool
nonny, i like it. i wish this furfag would draw more fnaf. I am not even into fnaf, but holy shit his animatronics drawings are so detailed and amazing.
No. 1797731
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>>1792090Rae, her mother got very sick and it seems she had to focus all her time into taking care of her. She always put so much energy and time into her art.
>>1792582That's a shame because this looks so cool.
No. 1797737
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>>1792090Samefag, but I also miss rvsa, I liked her ink strokes and how she depicted flow and movement into her art. Her explicit work was sexy, without being too porny.
No. 1797773
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>>1797755>she draws ugly bastard porn on her nsfwWell there's another artist I can't enjoy because they draw porn. It would have been okay if she drew cute guys, at least. Ugh I just thought she was into history stuff.
No. 1797813
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>>1796888i love literalhat's work and overall work ethic! missing their black and white gore era though
No. 1797964
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I'm black and this art has to be one of the stupidest pieces I've ever seen. I can't explain it but it almost feels like they're challenging the audience to get mad for making the guy so unnecessarily dark (so that they can lash back and call you a racist) when the choice just objectively makes no sense. If you want the character to be shrouded in darkness, add a black background. If you want the character to be lit by a source, add sharp highlights (especially for skin this dark, it won't NOT be reflective). It's that simple.
No. 1797988
>>1797979>Wanna share who it is? I feel like they tried to tranny everyone by now, but maybe i just feel that way cause my boys are very effected.tsumugi, which is funny to me because he's one of the tallest boys. Who's your favourite
>Dann i wish i could see your art and be your normal enstars friend. I am in the need of onei wish i could link my twitter! i would love enstarrie friends, specially since the game has cool co-op elementes. I am going to try to find a discrete way to signal i am
terf-adjacent on twitter. If you find an artist that draws aoba/tomoya fanart and doesnt have pronouns in bio, that's me kek.
No. 1797990
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>>1797964It just looks like a raceswap of Choso from asian to african.
No. 1798037
>>1797964His skin looks fine imo just the lips look stupid. I wouldn't care if he was drawn with blonde hair and blue eyes (and I doubt you would either) so I don't care if he's drawn black
>>1797967She's a woman surprisingly
No. 1798098
>>1797964Not gonna touch the racebending aspect, but yeah, this is a good example of poor value management in a piece– if it had the same low amount of contrast but was pastel/outright 'over-exposed', it would also probably look flat and be difficult to read, especially at a glance/zoomed out. So yeah, some brighter edge highlights would really help the forms to pop, and a grey/dark colour for the bg would also help (especially if the character is meant to be in low light). The art isn't bad or anything, the artist just needs to work on their lighting and presentation a bit more to polish it.
Related, but I feel like a common issue at the moment with artists (usually beginners, to be fair) trying to depict very dark skin tones is that they try to use near-black values for the local colour of characters drawn in a cartoon/anime/lineart-based style. I understand that they want to depict characters with truly dark skin, but for those kinds of art styles you have to really know what you're doing to pull it off (and usually shade it), otherwise you gotta bump it up a couple shades to contrast with your lines better to improve readability. They're usually doing it for representation reasons, which is fine of course, but if someone tries to explain this aspect of design people flip out kek
(this obviously goes for drawing any super dark/black coloured subject in such styles, unless you want a silhouette effect, hence why black cats or suits in animation are often actually a grey or dark, de-saturated blue)
No. 1798186
nonas who have gone to art schools/studied art and/or design in college, what were your classmates like? we all know art school is pretty much 90% networking and 10% actually learning shit, but were your classmates nice people? good friends, good networking? or were them shitty, unskilled, unreliable?
asking this because i was curious after looking at my own experience in art schools. i've studied in three art schools so far and out of those three maybe one had a pretty expressive number of people who were actually great both as colleagues/friends and as professionals that i still talk with to this day.
but it seems that the usual, at least for the other two art schools i've been in, is that for 50% of the class to be composed of borderline delusional competitive assholes who act like they're in a survival game, and the other 50% are incompetent skylers and aidens who are more focused on drawing their genshin blorbo for twitter and are horrible to work with.
another thing i've noticed is how…overtly mean, entitled and jealous many of those people are. a colleague of mine who's actually a pretty amazing girl (i say colleague because we weren't super close but we sometimes talked in class) managed to win a 6 month internship in some big art school in france or something (this was a few years ago and my memory is ass) and instead of being happy for her victory or at the very least congratulating her most of the class just got really passive aggressive instead and stopped talking to her altogether. that girl interacted with the rest of the class just fine before winning that internship, mind you, which is why that change was so jarring for me to witness.
saged because no salt, just curiosity.
No. 1798287
>>1798186I didn't go to a school that specialized in art, but did study animation and it was shite. Most of my colleagues don't even pick up a pencil anymore. A lot of em, during my time there, would just repeat what their favorite cartoons were and talk over and over about how great Glen Keane was and the "Disney Renaissance" thinking they were gonna get jobs like those once they graduated.
Every single one of their final animations looked like absolute shit. Others just wanted to go indie and make story time animations on YouTube when that got popular. But nobody actually wanted to study animation as a medium they were just really autistic about their "favorite toons" and waxed poetic about how they wanted to make commentary videos about them. None of em ever put in the effort though.
There was no competition. It was just everyone fumbling around with outdated information and little to no resources. At the very least they were not bad colleagues. I could call some of them my friends even today.
No. 1798357
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>>1798098The values look fine to me, I can still read the facial expression, and make out things like makeup and beauty marks on the skin. The white background is probably throwing things off, but if the background was darker it would probably read better. Personally I enjoy when people aren't afraid to just color a character unabashedly dark skin like this. Much preferred to when artist make a character greyish brown because they want them to be dark, but they still want their lines to be read. And so often I see characters who skin are so white I trouble figuring out where their skin ends and their sclera begin without much of a fuss kicked up, seeing the opposite almost feels like a breathe of fresh air.
No. 1798622
>>1798357ayrt and I also think characters like your picrel can look stunning, but it also has much better use of contrast and 'reads' much better. I didn't mean that I couldn't make out the facial expression or the finer details of the original, just that it's indistinct when it doesn't need to be due to poor presentation choices/lack of knowledge. The artist is a beginner so it's not really a problem and they're on the right track. It's not a huge issue either, I just thought it was an interesting technical aspect to discuss here.
>so white I trouble figuring out where their skin ends and their sclera beginkek this bugs me too. I've seen it work in a couple styles where the character is essentially depicted through negative space, but yeah most of the time it just looks awkward.
No. 1798702
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help me nonnies where do i find hot pictures of men so i can do figure drawing sessions? i got tired of line of action and all the ugly gendies/fat moids/old moids so i pirated a custom gesture drawing app to pick my own refs but i cant find any. I tried pinterest but all the pictures there are cropped or low quality. Is there a tumblr blog or page where i can find what i am looking for?
No. 1798713
>>1797964This looks like the artist only watched tutorials for painting skin and put no clear light in any other parts of the drawing
also maybe its just me but the collar looks too dark and the lighter part too dull, the piercings could also look a bit shinier/lighter, also she could have used some of the clear tone she used for the hairclip in the hair that falls to his face.
Otherwise i think its a nice drawing but i don't think its meant to be a detailed piece
No. 1798716
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>>1796888This guy's work is pretty cool. It looks almost like a mosaic. He's from Mexico I think.
No. 1798719
>>1798702Pinterest is good. The website
https://freephotomuscle.com/ is good for drawing muscular men, though I only use them for the bodies. For the face, I use Pinterest
No. 1798722
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>>1798719oh shit this good
nonny, thank you so much. Now i need to find a site like this for skellies/twinks.
No. 1798786
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>>1796888Benjamin Vierling, the artist who did the cover art of Joanna Newsom’s Ys.
No. 1798820
>>1798186oh boy at my illustration/animation program at a state college anyone decent were in their own cliques, meanwhile there were plenty of students who were just an utter mystery why they were even there. it was a struggle trying to network because a good majority were objectively not skilled enough to be doing an art degree and/or severely socially inept. some would get downright upset that they had to actually draw for their art classes. these people would literally get mad at professors for assigning them portfolio building type homework and expecting them to keep sketchbooks. it was like they expected art skill to just be handed to them. honest to god id see anime cat boy ocs submitted for assignments. i saw a girl paint those shiny anime cheeks that look like giant zits in figure painting.
often i’d meet students who were so opposed to any critique or criticism from classmates and professors they ignored it and learnt nothing or took it like a personal attack. a guy in my group project presented the rest of us with 20+ basically identical character concepts that were not in our agreed upon style that were just 3/4 view family guy characters with minor details changed. he said he wanted to be a character designer and i told him about the basics of character design and what the job would entail (this was a 300 level class) and how these were not going to work; he did not change them at all for the final submission and was so butthurt he rated me 0/100 on the project review. i was in the program’s extracurricular club and we’d swap sketchbooks at a mixer and I got someone’s badly traced pictures of spider-man in a ruled notebook. these people needed a babysitter not a professor.
i regretted going there because of the lack of standards in my peers making networking a fucking joke but i graduated debt free and i’ve got a career in art. after i left they instated portfolio reviews before being allowed to formally enter the program; i assume because even the professors took note of similar students.
No. 1798851
>>1798186I was in an animation course for a short while and it was mostly bored rich kids who didn't have a clear idea of what to do. Some were just artsy normies and other annoying little hypebeasts. Had no idea why they were in the course, it still cracks me up how they barely knew how to draw but were really mean and judgmental. Then you had the ghibli girls, who were very skilled, very woke too. Still nice to work with. Then the aidens, i used to mock them in my head but they were actually really nice to me, how ungrateful.. They happened to be pretty skilled and good at what they were doing (furfaggotry with nice lineart). Then you had a couple male animation nerds (also pretty sympathetic) with varying levels of skill. Now we were all very young so i imagine the people who were really into it have progressed since. I loved the competition but as another nona said i struggled a lot with the cliques. It was like i was back in middle school. I never fit in anywhere, and i suspect other women in the course also struggled with autism (we were a bunch of weebs, after all). It truly depressed me how they were either aidens or came out during the year. Actually, not just awkward autie girls, there was this stunning talented butch lesbian who ended up trooning out too. Most teachers were male and a couple were absolute coomers who just couldn't shut up about it.
We had solid training but it was a money trap for people who didn't get into state schools because they're so in demand. Total waste of money and expensive education was a dead-end for a poorfag like me anyways.
tldr; don't go to art school unless you're sure you can get into a school that is actually good for networking.
No. 1799077
>>1797988>Who's your favouriteI am a ValkyrieP and you know the rules, boys can´t enjoy feminine clothes without being women…
I put an anon email in the /g/ friend finder thread, so you can write me there and we can exchange accounts If any other enstars
nonnie feels up to it you can message me too.
No. 1799263
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>>1798719this site is amazing thank you so much
No. 1799327
>>1799287No.because I do art for myself, Why the fuck should I care a deku kinner gendie zoomer thinks of me?
besides being a zoomer myself kek the algorithm sucks if you want engagement try following clout make popular stuff and then sneak in your own originals follow artists and reach out join communities.but if you're truly happy with your so called
talented art you wouldn't care how many likes you get
No. 1799453
>>1798722I've had luck with pinterest and searching for chinese / asian men for twinks,I'm sure there are skellies too
pic not really but maybe related, cute chinese boy
No. 1799455
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>>1799453oops, dropped my pic
No. 1799537
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>>1799514oh I'm glad to hear, search for "chinese man reference" , "chinese man manhwa" , click on any pin and enjoy the pinterest rabbit hole of cute twinks to your heart's desire kek
here's some pins to get you started
https://pinterest.com/pin/661536632784527106/https://pinterest.com/pin/563018694826506/https://pinterest.com/pin/6051780742646042/https://pinterest.com/pin/318981586123620904/https://pinterest.com/pin/2251868554023475/just be careful, pinterest is a REALLY slippery slope
No. 1799538
>>1799537>>1799514double posting because I'm a tired idiot and forgot to ask:
> i pirated a custom gesture drawing app what app was it?
No. 1800008
>>1799754I kind of understand you. I personally delete most of my side accounts shortly after they gain 5-10k followers. It stops being fun when the numbers get to your head and suddenly 1k likes isn't enough anymore and you start doubting your abilities even though you know the attention is random. If you don't like being online then don't be and if you want a smaller crowd you can remake the account. But if you don't talk much about yourself on your account you should be fine, even people who draw "
problematic" subjects can fly by if they don't come off as annoying and the fandom itself is small
No. 1800129
>>1799754nonna, when i get overwhelmed what i do is disable notifications and download an extension like Better Twitter which hides metrics like followers, likes, retweets, etc. i have 20k+ followers myself but i literally just post art and don't interact with anyone, even my profile is blank with just an old pic of my oc as the profile picture, and it suits me just fine.
plenty of times a piece of mine blows up and i kind of want to delete it because i get embarrassed that so many people are looking at my mistakes but i think of people like
>>1792090 and figure it would be a shame to delete what a lot of people ultimately enjoyed.
No. 1800318
>>1800225I'm the anon from
>>1799986 and I couldn't agree more. I'm mostly in school to network with the teachers and other faculty. A lot of the teachers I've had worked or currently still do work in the industry and I want to get insight on what does or doesn't work (and maybe get a job). I'm not opposed to networking with my classmates but most of them are unskilled or insufferable to be around (or both).
No. 1800534
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Is there an alternative to vgen? Since the site stopped being selective with the artist batches, the quality has gone down so much.
No. 1800701
>>1800600I went from Sai to Krita a long time ago and also found it painful to use because I couldn't figure out how to get that nice blending brush everyone had on Sai.
David Revoy / Pepper & Carrot artist has a lot of Krita brushes on his site and made the transition a lot smoother.
I'd say my favorite features are just being able to use other filters or layer modes. FOSS and Android app are also a plus.
No. 1801684
>>1801573nta but in art school i was always told to put effort in networking with my fellow classmates. the teachers called it a "future bet", as in, if by chance anyone in the class makes it big in the industry you'll have networked with them and therefore you can reach out more easily.
like, i get it but i also find it stupid because the chances of that happening are stupidly slim.
No. 1801710
>>1801544There's no telling what happened, lilstarnerd doesn't seem to mention it at all. One comment on this video is telling Kelsey she's overthinking it and that she's trying to manage a version of herself that doesn't exist yet, thinking like a businesswoman. Honestly, having listened to part of this video, she seems like she's just going to be doing the same shit (wants to make her OWN podcast, keep making courses and dumb templates).
Rather than just making art, she wants to use art as a means to an end because she's not creative-minded enough to pull off being more than a youtube artist, rather than being an 'artist on youtube'. She will not change, she will not improve, she's just reiterating the same bullshit she's been doing since she got on the scene, only this time she'll probably be left behind because she won't be relevant making the same shit over and over. Especially if her art itself is nothing to write home about.
I feel a little bad for lilstarnerd, she's clearly the better artist in this deal and yet she's got less subs because she's not regurgitating 'art business advice' for the masses. Then again it's good she's gotten away from kelsey
No. 1802262
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this new trend of pedo moids showing off how they all draw diverse/old/ugly men but only draw cute/young women is so fucking cringe. If only more women would react with the opposite(diverse women, cute/young moids) but they are all pickmes so they respond with their waifubait and ugly moids, as handmaiden pickmes do
No. 1802289
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The year is almost over nonnies. Did you improve this year? did you overcome or found a new obstacle in your art journey? what are your goals next year?
my goal next year is to draw a full piece each month.
No. 1802306
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>>1802289>still alot to improve but im glad to finally learn how to render hair>learned photobashing to work faster>got a major gig for a good company>colors improved alot>found myself a niche community that i like>animation improved>my work was used in a game>finally can draw husbando the way i want to>some nice art mutualsi would say this year was very pleasant even with numerous times i was with art burnout and depression, i hope to improve more next year and to appear in a music video and more indie games
No. 1802384
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>>1802262Reminded me of picrel that I saw earlier today. So fucking cringe I need the old man propaganda to die out
No. 1802385
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>>1802384Double-posting but I don't even know what to make of this. Why are people so scared of old women
No. 1802408
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>>1802398I don't think I want to see the inverse of that either kek it's just weird that now post-wall men are getting pushed stupidly hard in weeb stuff too when they are already praised in every other type of media
No. 1802413
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>>1802289>Made merch. I always avoided making it due to lack of self confidence but people like my merch so hey!>Improved the shading and rendering on how I draw hair>Took a break from drawing furries. They're rich as fuck and I managed to live off from it but I wanted to focus on my stuff>Made art friends that aren't pickmes nor artstation wannabes>Deleted instagram and I'm trying to get my twitter community to join my Telegram art channel. I like platforms without a "timeline", on telegram I only follow shit I like without some shitty for you nor sponsored pages.>Got new followers by drawing fanarts of shit I actually like and realized I stopped clout chasing by drawing the fotm husbandos/waifus.Proud of me! It can only get better!
No. 1802656
>>1802289Started to but then i fell off hard because my
mentally ill ass cannot commit to something even if it's some paper and a pencil goddamn
No. 1802772
>>1802384Disgusting
>>1802385I hate this. The same mindset as zoomers who think 30 years old is middle aged.
No. 1802782
>>1802262for some reason, this makes me very angry
>>1802384Ew. When I was 22 I would have liked to date a 30+ man (brainwashed by movies) . Now at 30+ I want to date younger men lol.
This whole "much older man" & young girl who's barely 20 shit needs to stop.
No. 1803449
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does anyone know what ibispaintx brush looks similar to the lineart in this pic? I'm trying to go for a similar style.
No. 1803857
>>1803848That's such a stupid question. You decide if it's worth it for you. You can get popular there if there's a niche you fit into or if your art has general appeal, but you'll never get crazy numbers like on twitter, insta or tiktok because there are just less people on tumblr
>>1803784Kek in that case wouldn't it better to post on there if the competition is as generic as you say
No. 1804619
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>>1792090This artist who used to post stylish bubbline
No. 1804623
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>>1792090This talented UT artist hasn't posted in a long time either. At least their social media is still up
No. 1805429
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Based professor
No. 1805465
Sorry if this has been asked a lot, but does anyone have any advice for easing back into art, specifically portraits and human figures, as an adult? I grew up doing a shitload of art, going to the brutal communist-style classes, applying for art schools, etc but due to some BS not worth getting into I did a hard U-turn and went to school for something completely unrelated. Needless to say that pretty much killed my desire to make art for a very long time. I still remember the basics and I've got my old books, but obviously my skills have degraded a lot and for a while it was very emotionally draining trying to draw anything. In particular, I have this irrational aversion to drawing people or anything stylized when before that's almost all I drew. It feels like there's this monumental skill threshold for drawing appealing, anatomically-correct human figures from memory, especially stylized ones, that I'll just never reach, while things like plants or even outdoor scenes are much more attainable subjects for me right now. Should I just focus on the easier stuff because it's enjoyable and also worth pursuing mastery in, or try to exposure-therapy my way back into what I used to do? I was never a prodigy and I'm most likely not gonna do art as a career so I don't care about rendermaxing or whatever; it just feels like a part of me has been missing for a really long time and I want to get it back.
No. 1806294
>>1806199This won't be the case for everyone, but studying STEM actually helped me a lot with my art in two major ways: 1) I was already in the mindset and rhythm of study, so learning art theory and practising it was just an extension of that, while also feeling like a break because it wasn't the usual academic research, and 2) I drew things involved in my field of study– lots of intricate diagrams and cross-sections, which helped me then understand how to better portray a similar subject in a more illustrative way after researching things like composition and colour/light theory and visual storytelling techniques. All those old masters doing dissection studies were onto something, reducing a subject to its inner workings can be very helpful sometimes, which I feel a lot of art advice glosses over (not all of it obviously, there's some great stuff out there, but a lot will only show form breakdowns or how to make something look convincing, even if inaccurate).
I am a very technically-minded artist and always have been though, so all of these things just clicked for me by teaching myself in this way compared to how I was taught art in school, which was too feelings-based and wishy-washy for my sped brain kek
No. 1806347
>>1806338I doubt you're either of those things anon, you might just still need to find a method that's right for you or focus on slowly working your way up to spending more time on a given task to up your stamina before burning out. Also remember that everyone has their bad days or gets rusty or burns out, you just don't always see it (some outright try to pretend it doesn't happen, too)
Art's a marathon, not a sprint. You'll get there in time.
No. 1806840
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What are some good (obviously female) artists that draw relationships between women? Can be sweet romantic or sexual.
No. 1806882
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>>1806840I can't confirm if this artist is 100% female but they draw a lot of amphibia fanarts that could pass off as femgaze-y. This is the only instance I found them of talking about queer stuff.
No. 1807293
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>>1807159She’s amazing, I love her series with the knight and princess
No. 1807294
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I want to pretend like the comments are just unhinged and making shit up
No. 1807342
>>1807294besides the dead babies and the dogfighting (vidrel) they've also done some weird shit like where they cut open corpses and then poured the fat into a wastewater river in beijing. I guess it could be said that making something that's hard to look at or controversial has been a part of the art world forever but I feel like the main thought most people have is "why the fuck would you do this". idk. just because something is extreme or taboo doesn't mean it's meaningful, some things are just gross and utterly deranged.
there's this one thing they did called Old People’s Home where a bunch of wax figures of elderly world leaders slowly move around on electric wheelchairs and bump into each other which tbh sounds funny as fuck
>>1807318they did do two different works featuring aborted/stillborn fetuses and one using the cadaver of a dead child. one of them, they transfused their own blood into a medical specimen of conjoined twins
No. 1807366
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>>1807293Went to look at more of this artist’s work, it’s really gorgeous. But also, is this a ron/hermione lesbian au lol?
No. 1807367
>>1807366kek I think Ron's hair was just long in that movie and the art style makes him look more feminine here, but the jaw and the hands make me think he's just meant to be a cute boy. Doesn't help that it looks a bit similar to the knight lady's design though.
Could be wrong of course, would be far from the weirdest HP AU. Lovely art all the same.
No. 1807451
>>1807369It’s a husband and wife, I’m not sure why you’re trying to make this a gender discrimination thing.
Gonna have to agree with the haters on this one, their art is retarded. Nothing of value in what they’re doing. Definitely no beauty. feels a lot like them using “art” as an excuse to do fucked up shit for attention.
No. 1807656
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>>1807367>>1807438Yeah I know Ron’s a guy in the yule ball art, I was asking if the knight/princess art was the AU(or based off them) because I was thinking the way she draws the hairstyles looks similar then saw people outright call them lesbian romione lol (I think the other commenter is referring to luo’s nsfw patreon, but paywall so I can’t tell)
And apparently there’s a group of hp fans who draw Ron and Hermione as girlfriends (surprisingly cute to me when I used to hate Ron kek)
No. 1807824
>>1807656My apologies, anon. i dont think i read your reply correctly. I actually am not okay with making any male characters gender bend to use them as 'lesbians.' It does feel very wrong and troony. If they wanted hermione with another girl character, there is quite a few in HP. Even Luna or Ginny would be fine
>>1807687Same
No. 1809691
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I don't understand how/why people draw ugly ass faces in fan arts of characters that look pretty in canon. Do these artists hate anything beautiful? Example attached, fan art for Draculaura from Monster High.
No. 1809701
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>>1809697
no, it's 3rd generation redesign of Draculaura with switched colours.
No. 1810205
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>>1809691this might shock you, but some people find beauty in the ugly and yes, even in ugly faces/conventionally unattractive features. unibrows and big noses. wider eyes or imperfect faces. it can make characters look more real, especially given plenty of amateur artists hide their lack of skill behind perfectly flat untextured skintones and conventionally attractive same face syndrome.
take scooby doo animated vampires for example, like from the scooby doo movie with the hex girls. they're ugly af. but something about their ugliness is also charming to their design.
shes literally a vampire, a monster, in a series called monster high, and youre bitching about her being portrayed monstrously and not like a bimboified caricature of draculas daughter? bad example
No. 1810215
>>1810042>Let this be a reminder that lolcow hates any and all art stylesOnly if they're boring, coomershit or tranny twitter or tumblr garbage.
>>1810205Vampires are also commonly portrayed as conventionally beautiful, sometimes even perfect. This is supposed to be an established character, not just someone's ugly vampire OC. MH characters are designed to be fashionable and cute to appeal to the target audience. Drawing a cute vampire girl as a gangly lamprey doesn't make you groundbreaking or unique. It's attention whoring. Just like when artists draw Sailor Moon as a hambeast because "Naoko Takeuchi said that Usagi was supposed to be a little chubby" despite having the same slim, stylized body as her friends. They may as well admit that they feel better about themselves when the pretty characters resemble them.
No. 1810269
>>1810205One of the twelve principles of animation is appeal, which something like these ugly-charming vampires have. It's basically the drawn version of charisma, and any character/creature, morally good or bad, should have it. Appeal is a bit nebulous and people often get it confused with thinking a character needs to be pretty/attractive or some other positive descriptor to have it, but a design can be technically ugly and still have appeal (sometimes it's absent from the design itself but present in the actual movement, too).
The difference between your example and the vampire girl redesign is that the scooby doo vampires still have balanced features despite them not being attractive ones– the large mouth fits well within the long jaw, which in turn is balanced out by having a short forehead and things like the lack of nose etc. The vampire girl's features are more unbalanced and clearly not as well thought out (this is a design that was clearly only made for aesthetic purposes– and fun, obviously– and not to be useable for storytelling or even as a doll). I don't have problems with the design because she's ugly, but because it needs work (the thing that shits me the most is actually her leg merging into her cape kek), though I also understand it's fanart and just for fun/not serious design work. I would actually like to see more female Nosferatu-styled vampires tbh.
Sorry for the sperg kek
No. 1810583
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it's always the genderspecials and the super religious christians who have some of the best art
No. 1811128
>>1810673>akshully you're personally gatekeeping yourselfOK twitter user
It's true though that a lot of artists' work don't get degraded simply because it's by a themby, but unfortunately some of them do let gender shit seep into their art, sometimes after they come out it becomes the only thing they draw.
No. 1811283
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>>1811128>It's true though that a lot of artists' work don't get degraded simply because it's by a themby, but unfortunately some of them do let gender shit seep into their art, sometimes after they come out it becomes the only thing they draw.i see so many talented artists that get ruined once they become gendies. Pic rel might be the most outrageous example
No. 1811375
>>1811128>a lot of artists' work don't get degraded simply because it's by a themby, but unfortunately some of them do let gender shit seep into their art, sometimes after they come out it becomes the only thing they draw.God this is so true. It's not that they/thems are good artists (most of them are god awful kek), it's that all the good artists online are forced into woke circles and eventually "come out" as he/they/them (if they're female anyway…) because being a boring she/her cis oppressor is literally looked down upon. The ones who don't agree with troon stuff out either disappear on their own because these crowds are insufferable, or they get canelled and thrown out of the platform for being a transphobic bigot.
Every time I've seen the trans identity shift happen in person the art switches to being at the very least 50% trans art. And when the art isn't showing mutilated female chests or other trans stuff their comment is still like "i made this piece to showcase how i feel trapped… by gender dysphoria" or "drew this hot guy… he's my gender envy oc". And then through that the art itself starts to degrade in quality, likely because their mental state goes to shit from this all-encompassing mental disorder, and also partly because the art itself stops to matter and only the trans message matters now. No one gives a shit about a badly drawn ugly, fat, hairy male oc with green hair - but if he's a trans man character sudddenly it's a politically important piece in the fight against the evil bigoted world out to kill trans people like them.
It's even worse when you have to watch said female artist go onto the path of medicalizing, knowing you can't say anything while she and her friends openly and happily celebrate yet another female getting their body mutilated.
No. 1811674
>>1811328Crab bucket burgers will only try to keep you in your hometown to live out your life there with the rest of them forever, do what YOU want to do
nonny, the only way you will know if you don't like it is if you try, don't let other people put thoughts into your head about something you're set on x
No. 1811849
>>1811714the death of deviantart was one of if not the worst thing to happen to online artists in my opinion. even with all its flaws deviantart was pretty much the perfect platform for artists and a safe heaven for hobbyists. you could just enjoy art without having to appear to algorithms and shitty social media stuff.
i'd argue that tumblr is fine nowadays but it's definitely more empty now. i still post on mine though and funnily enough i alwats manage to get more traction and more reblogs on it than on my twitter (even though both accounts have very similar follower counts).
No. 1812638
>>1811088Yeah it's irritating but for some reason I assume most people are cryptoterfing or just using pronouns for safety like myself at this point.
>>1811714I heard newgrounds is still a place like that and a "bastion of the old internet" and like yes, I've been around long enough to watch newgrounds grow in the background and do things, but I have no idea what the actual posting culture is like there. Is it a moid circlejerk (probably), what content do people like (i imagine porn, but then again twitter isn't much different), does it have an algorithm, etc.
With that being said I have faith in nothing right now. Maybe I'm too pessimistic but I haven't been wanting to post anything anywhere. Maybe I need to bite the bullet and draw what's popular and also sexy. Can you even grow if you don't follow flavors of the month?
No. 1813006
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No. 1813078
>>1813006this image is hilarious to me, the way she just sits in utter disbelief and confusion staring at the haphazard pile of warped pencils kekkk
A lot of people without hands/arms can and do draw and paint though, I've actually seen lots of examples. Here's a small artist I found off a quick search, I don't think she is particularly famous or outstanding but I think the interview is sweet
No. 1813163
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I always hated artists that come off this way. The idea that they were the original creators of such and such idea and everyone is copying and profiting off of their unique concept. This thread just reeks of narcissism. Imagine for a second you stopped drawing that concept because so many people were making the same thing that it didn't feel special. What the hell, right? It's embarrassing. Get over yourself.
No. 1813178
>>1813163That tweet is just attentionwhoring for bronie points and retweets, most people into art will think so, but only mediocre losers with zero creativity will feel like their shit was 100% copied directly from their brains.
Like, is something even creative when it can be done by many people exactly the same without ever communicating the ideas between each other?
No. 1813272
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>>1813163Kek what the fuck is she on about
No. 1813274
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>>1813272Her polly pockets are also inspired by other games, so her concept is not original in the least
No. 1813289
>>1813272"Guys I'm not blaming the artist or anything It's okay I'm not the only Polly Pocket artist it's okay."
"…buuuut they are like, totally copying me you know, I was the only Polly Pocket artist back then because I was SPECIAL and now everyone does it and it's not special anymore so like pay attention to me more guyssss :///"
lmao the attention whoring is real in this one
No. 1813322
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>>1813306It has to be insecurity, deep down she knows she didn't have some super interesting concept on her hands, she just combined already popular games (stardew valley, pokemon, breath of the wild) with vintage polly pocket toys and got lucky with the social media algorithm. No one would have liked it if it didn't combine two things people already enjoy seeing. Acting like someone stole her idea or something is crazy and if it just made her feel bad but didn't matter she should've kept it to herself instead of sharing it on her 100k+ follower twitter where it ratioed the original announcement tweet. But I have to wonder if meyoco would say the same if someone ever decided to work on a Papa Louie game about making fucked up fantasy boba kek
No. 1813379
>>1813368I paint with blues, teal and yellow most of the time. For some reason these colors have more emotional impact on me and fit well with what i do. I usually do abstract/dream art that's either about what i saw in a dream or tripping or i do automatic paiting to music which makes the music draw instead of me.
Next painting will be dark violet, red and white though, i have to experiemnt more.
No. 1813404
>>1813368I'm a digital artist and I have 2 accounts (no one knows i'm behind both of them lol) one is for bright colors and pastels, cute cartoony stuff. I tend to use a lot of pinks and yellow. And the other is for very dark matted colors, for more realistic fantasy and horror drawings. Any color goes as long as it's dark and muddy so black, grey and brown are staples.
I love both aesthetics but they do not mix at all lol
No. 1813424
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>>1813272She ripped of a toy design to make her art featuring popular characters of games that didn't belong to her. How does she think it makes the creators of PP, pokemon, zelda, AC, etc feel that she ripped off their designs and made money and fame online from their hard work?
And her polly pockets were just another take on already existing popular trends to begin with, I remember seeing similar pokeball interior designs over 10 years ago on tumblr. Picrel was posted in 2013 (or earlier, but it existed in 2013 and I ain't digging further)
No. 1813427
>>1813379oh cool, sounds like a good palette for something abstract and dreamy. Aside from experimentation, is there any reason why you were drawn to those colours for your next piece? Also, what genre of music do you like to paint to?
>>1813404Sounds like you have some great range! Very understandable that you'd run two separate accounts as well kek. The bright stuff sounds charming, but I'm a sucker for darker fantastical art, so cool! If you don't mind, what kinds of subjects are in your darker-themed work?
Personally, I'm both trad and digital, and I mainly use very earthy/natural colours, and when I make OCs the MC is always autumnal in scheme for some reason. I like to paint animals and scenery, as well as 'realistic/naturalist' fantasy and paleo art. I used to rarely use blue outside of skies and accent colours, but lately I've been painting studies of seabirds so embracing blue has been a fun change.
No. 1813677
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>>1813006>book burners why is this troons default insult? it doesn't even make sense in this context
No. 1813679
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>>1813272She's not going to let this go. She's going to milk this for all its worth.
No. 1813692
>>1813163when I saw this earlier my only thought was
>mentions she's a mother in her biohow do these people exist in the real world? how can they take care of real life children? what the fuck
No. 1813717
>>1813679That doesn't even look similar to this
>>1813163 . The only similarity is that they're both clearly polly pocket inspired. Even the garden at the bottom of the video game's one is enough to distinguish the two.
Even if her art was referenced (since she claims that you can't google polly pocket art without her art popping up), so what? Artists reference each other all the time, and she's silly if she doesn't think that artists use references in the video game/TV/film industry. I'm sure she's referenced other artists. As long as they aren't copying it's not a problem. Britt's art is nice, I hate seeing artists I like being such losers.
No. 1813735
>>1813717Samefag but also
>But artists whose work is so heavily referenced by others (again, not necessarily bad) are bound to feel some typa way when their vision gets recreated into oblivionSo how would she feel if the people who design Polly Pocket decided to call her out and say they feel uncomfortable with her art? It's not YOUR vision, you just took something that's already existed for decades and gave it more modern elements.
No. 1813739
>>1813163So let me get this straight:
>no one can make PP games with tiny house-type decals because it's copying her>she made a bunch of game {zelda, pokemon, animal crossing} versions of PP>PP itself is a tiny house simulation>anything with gardening aspects is copying her>she never planned to ever make unique versions of PP, only those game versions>she didn't go forward with an original PP design for a game to be playedNothing she has done is unique. PP already was a tiny house simulation.
No. 1813768
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>>1813163Interesting, so she admits to ripping off these artists from 2013-2018 right? They drew the polly pocket houses their own way YEARS before she ever did. Or the THOUSANDS of isometric room and house artist all over deviantart since the early 2000s? evergreenqveen should feel ashamed of herself for ripping off these poor deviantart artists without giving them any credit, and use her platform to give them more attention.
No. 1814010
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>>1813163Me when I've invented a wholly new concept (literally the top result on ebay.co.uk for "polly pocket 1992)
No. 1814013
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>>1814010brand new never seen before concept guis
No. 1814025
>>1813272I mean has anyone asked Bluebird, Origin and Mattel how they feel?? (s)
Do artists realise those are copyrighted and trademarked designs and the company can chase them up for any profits made? many etsy and tiktok shops get shut down for less. You do not own that concept. Defending corporate IP you do not own is wild (also the game designers are on thin ice too, you literally do not have the rights to use corporate IP unless you bought a license, even if it's a quick way to get views and followers)
No. 1814061
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>>1813679Bitch thats Habbo Hotel
No. 1814093
>>1814061kekkk
nonnie how does Habbo Hotel feel about this?
No. 1814269
>>1811714I’ve thought about old school forums but I don’t know how well it would work. I spent a lot of time on art and pixel forums in college.
>>1813163I can’t find the game anywhere
>>1813322Are these three different artists? Meyoco does have a stronger design than the others.
No. 1814272
>>1814010I grew up with this one
>>1814013 never saw this one but I like the design. Polly Pocket was a fun line of toys. Now she looks like any other doll toy line.
No. 1814621
>>1813728the only "drama" I can remember is her not acknowleging Qinni's death and posting something a day or so after that resembled how Qinni would draw stylized orange stars heavily associated with her style. She was a little rude about it. Otherwise shes boring and just sells tacky/ugly merch.
>>1813322 Deadass thought these were the same artist over the years or something. I hate this stupid fucking style so much it just feels so sterile and manufactured. Yet Instagram normies eat it up.
No. 1814830
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Has anyone taken any schoolism classes? Do you feel like it actually helped you improve?
No. 1814838
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>Nonsexual
>3rd video is of her character dressed in catgirl bikini shit
OP didn't really deserve to be permabanned considering the way more horrendous examples posted daily out there but c'mon.
No. 1815355
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>>1814621It's super beginner friendly and also pretty enough to wow normies. I just got this video recommended on pinterest after searching up meyoco knockoffs and it just shows how little understanding goes into it kek but I feel like these are the same artists that ultimately reach a point where they feel immense pressure to stay in that style unless they don't give a fuck about drawing itself and just do it for money
No. 1816200
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>>1815355I actually want to practice making stuff like this. It's really cute, but no way in hell can any of these people claim they made the designs/idea. The polly pocket girl should've taken that hint with stuff like this. She also makes a bunch of non-ghost cat witchy earthy shit. Basically like that one artist with the witches and ghosts.. I'm sorry, I can't think of her name to post an example. I think a bunch of you nonnas probably know the artist I'm talking about, but she's basically doing that same esthetic.
Pic rel is her version.
No. 1816294
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>>1816200nayrt I think picrel is actually cute, that subject matter is also just really overdone. Claiming the idea of isometric polly pocket art is lobotomite behavior though. I believe you are referring to SimzArts for the ghost cats.
No. 1816663
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>>1816200Does that art remind anyone else of Javidraws? I mean, not that Javi’s is particularly original either. Kinda funny you mentioned the art was like another artist’s(who I didn’t know of) but it still immediately reminded me of another artist lol. I respect their skill but I wonder if these artists ever get bored drawing samey aesthetic art. I’ve always been curious what it’d be like if they tried making something more original.
Props to the artist in
>>1816294 for having a more interesting style and concept at least
No. 1818463
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Why?
No. 1818491
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>>1818463>artistic freedomYeah, no. this is the exception. Please tell me people are calling this out
No. 1818515
>>1814830haven’t taken them but imo
Only take classes that have feedback otherwise it’s almost as if you’re pirating coruses
No. 1818599
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Reposting here because I posted to the wrong thread by accident. But why do artists complain about getting a bunch of followers but then continue to post? This is M2Gong, and they went the same route as Columbo where they delete their account and make a new one, and when it gets popular, they delete and restart the cycle. If you're gonna complain about getting an audience, why even make a Twitter account to begin with? Why not get a couple of followers and then go private?
No. 1818613
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>>1818611i cant access twitter because of bullshit reasons, but is this mgong? i can understand why an artist would rather remain niche, we both know once they hit it big they will attract obnoxious westerners. If this is pic rel mgogn then she's probably afraid of zoomer westoid thembies finding her nazi/shota art.
No. 1818618
>>1818613this is mgong yeah
i did see some tweets in which mgong showed worry for people looking at their art because of the themes they often depict
No. 1818620
>>1818599Why bring attention to it then?
Just delete your account and quietly popup and post art.
No. 1818625
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>>1818599It seems like her main thing is men sending her weird dms? I'm not sure
No. 1818631
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>>1818618that's probably it then. Last time i checked on her she switched her style and started drawing fat cuntboys so it makes sense she attracted that type of audience……
>>1818621> I might be biased because she's a personal cow of mine just because she used to complain a lot in her old accounts.spill the beans. She's on top 3 of favourite artists, i want to know about her schizo episodes.
>I think it's mostly funny that her new fat OC that she's making a comic about is based on the fat nazi from Hellsingshe's had another fat shota(?) oc that was just a younger version of the major. pic rel. She's an unapologetic fatfag and i can respect that. I miss her old style though, i genuinely dont like her new style.
No. 1818644
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>>1818636They do look exactly like them now that you mention it, but they're based on the Major and the Captain from Hellsing. She just has a thing for fat blondes x tall muscular guys I guess
>>1818637She doesn't deserve this.
Could the crowd come from her drawing cuntboy art? No. 1818649
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>>1818644goddam she's so fucking talented. Still a bit salty she dropped her cell-shaded hard brush style for something more painterly and kinda ugly and hard to look at.
>spoilermost than likely, yes. It has to be westoid TIFs shitting on her out of jealousy, based af for calling them women though kek. Is her OC a cuntboy or it just a crossdressing woman? because she has drawn her as a woman in feminine clothes before. I want to read her manga but it's sadly not translated.
No. 1818678
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>>1818657The whole thing reminds me of Kaneoya Sachiko being bullied by a bunch of losers into apologizing for drawing German WWII pilots. I hope non-Western artists just learn to ignore and block these types of people who mainly attack them because they're worthless and talentless people themselves.
No. 1818680
>>1818649I can't lie I had no idea her oc was a cuntboy before I read this thread. I actually thought it was an androgynous fat crossdressing female priest pretending to be a man for religious purposes. I thought it was pretty unique. Why does nobody want to make interesting female characters and just cuntboys? Just go the whole mile already
>>1818628Pretty based for calling the tiffies and theybies girls though. I hope she stands her ground even if she's a little bit autismo, because she's really undeniably talented.
No. 1818775
>>1818649it’s tifs and jelly artists in general. look at the original op who calls her annoying.
>>1818599100% it’s someone unpopular who wishes she was in her place with a large following
No. 1818928
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what kind of stuff do you draw, nonny?
No. 1819092
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>>1818928Shoujo but also semi anime rendered, basically what lolcow hates.
No. 1819093
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>Weebs shitting their pants over MUH WESTERN SJW CRYBABIES GETTING MAD OVER NAZI IMAGERY WAAHHH as if literally everyone in Asia didn't collectively buttblasted about anything even slightly resembling the rising sun flag
Just because you're stuck in your anglosphere hugbox doesn't mean Asia is some Based And Redpilled dreamland where nobody is ever held accountable for anything.
No. 1819112
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Nonnas… crush h[er] skull
No. 1819124
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>>1819105Genuinely curious, what do you feel about Japanese normies consuming K-pop who are unaware of the concept of comfort women?
No. 1819176
>>1819155damn i struggle even separate my own art and reblogs
made nsfw account initially where id go degen with fandoms considered cringe and now its my only blog in only one platform cause birdapp scares me
nona do you have some tips for optimizing accs?
No. 1819656
>>1819112This is such a pet peeve of mine but I hate how most of the "relatable/meme art" artists talk the same way. "Ok but why -insert some stupid shit here-" "ppl" "bc" "folks" "ok but can we appreciate -insert stupid character trait nobody cares about-"
Where they created at the same factory or what
No. 1819789
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I kind of get why Mgong is going on and on about not wanting followers but idk can't they just ignore the people who ask them for tips? People will naturally ask you for advice if you're a good artist that others admire. If you don't want to be asked those things just lock your account???
No. 1819880
>>1819748Sorry to hear that,
nonnie. It's hard to lose something like that even if it was just to prove how far you've come.
No. 1819932
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>>1819927I think you're right. She's the first person I've seen prioritize comments on twitter over likes and retweets, picrel kek but I guess I understand why
No. 1819941
>>1819927>>1819932she just sounds like a really lonely artist which honestly i totally understand. like
>>1819916 said it does sound painful to be essentially famous and always rake in huge numbers with your art but almost nobody talks to you or even praises your art, they just stare silently. maybe it's still a way to be an attention whore but tbh i prefer this than those artists that are just obsessed with numbers.
No. 1819946
>>1819124kpop is already extremely
abusive to women and kpoopies know it
No. 1819980
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What really gets me is why she's posting this all publically. She even did the classic black icon with vent tweets. She needs to take at least a break or something
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>>1819980
>"Netizens ruined a perfect account of mine. I hate you. Wait until I save a bunch of pictures before I can be reborn. Haha."Wtf is she on about? This is kinda cringe.
No. 1819996
>>1819989She didn't even get called out or anything right now, I don't understand what this sort of outburst is for? Am I missing milk or is she just going full autist right now
>>1819994NTA but I backed up some work, not all. I will do that now though, wish me luck that she doesn't randomly deactivate in the middle of it kek
No. 1820018
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>>1820000You just saved my entire life nonna, you have no idea what powers you just gave me.
>>1820014Everyone always complains about western internet but Chinese netizens get mad at anything. Especially when it comes to art.
No. 1820033
>>1819989FUCK, I remember her but I didn't follow her, someone please make an archive of her stuff.
I've noticed this a lot with asian artists too, one little thing and they nuke EVERYTHING
No. 1820049
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>>1820018>You just saved my entire life nonna, you have no idea what powers you just gave me.anon please can you zip it and uploaded it to catbox? its an anonymous link sharing site and you dont need to register. I really dont want to miss on her art because of my shitty third world internet connection.
No. 1820059
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>>1820033>>1820049Here you go nonnas! There are too many files for catbox, but this is a link. It should be a zip with them all
I've never used this site before to share files so if I accidentally doxxed myself please tell me lmaohttps://wormhole.app/A7Wo7#x8ZcE03Qs1YryO0DjWZj-wThis is only the OnlySalvat twitter account though. I can backup the m2gong one as well though.
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>>1820059thanks anon god bless you. I hope mgong is doing fine, can you believe she's only 21/22? i wonder is she works for a studio and that's why she doesnt want her account to be big, i wouldnt want my employeer to find i draw cuntboy art either kek
No. 1820105
>>1819112Following trends/trying to fit in.
They existed in spaces were “eeww no i don’t like girly things” was cool and now it’s “aktshyally pink and bimbos is feminist because legally blonde”
No. 1820618
>>1820427Highly unlikely I mean hell just look at what she draws, very tif centered fandoms
also she mentioned in her pri twitter about the hijab protests so also I'm suprised nonas being weirded out by deleting alt accounts mainly focused on a certain fandom it makes sense in columbos case as the punishment can be harsher for her and retards were doxxing her, Mgong was quite a cow in the sphere I was in too
ererei art deleted her fanarts if it got too popular and sperged about how
fanart should be made,which is somewhat redundant I mean does she not think people save it? Most alt accounts in the tag are private now after westoids found it and spammed
trans fanarts.
No. 1821027
>>1820943(Samefag as
>>1820882)
Yeah like. Hell I LOVE Leyendecker and Mucha, but some the fuck on. The amount of times I've seen mediocre artist after mediocre artist trying to copy their art without trying to actually understand it and the end result is an ugly, messy bootleg.
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>>1820059The “realistic man and uwu animu girl” combination is always so hilarious
No. 1821131
>>1820504Is Japan's consumption of Korean media okay to Anon because they don't sperg about censorship?
yeah, duh
No. 1821714
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>>1821638unpopular opinion but i like seeing food and cat pics on my feed. Japanese food looks delicious and pretty so i sometimes end up using them as ref for my drawings, and the cat pics are just cute. Things i cannot stand in feeds is spamming reaction image/gifs. Western and chinese artists LOVE to spam on their feed, STOP RETARD ITS UNBEARABLE.
No. 1822987
>>1822913I was just about to say this; every so often in every art salt thread we get this one particular nona posting about TwistedDisaster. It's always the same formatting. I understand if she's been a personal cow of hers for ages, but she's not even milky enough anymore, only tangentially related to old cows.
We get it. She makes ugly art, hangs out with tifs, mouth breathes and whines about her privileged life. Nothing new here, just stop hate watching her lmao. She can be salty about TD all she wants but it's not bringing anything to the table at this point.
No. 1823124
>>1820882i remember when i had a phase like that kek. i was super insecure of my own art style and i wanted to stand out but i didn't know how but i knew people loved mucha and other art noveau aesthetics so i dove headfirst into trying to mimic mucha's style for my own art.
in one hand it did help me learn some stuff mainly when it came to composition but on the other hand my art looked even more generic than before because now it didn't have a lick of originality and it was just glaringly obvious that i was trying to copy mucha instead of learning from his style. didn't help the fact that my technical skills were also shit (i used to be one of those rendermaxxing with shitty anatomy type of artists) eventually i grew tired of it and went back to my old style and improved it instead.
No. 1823147
>>1820882I had a phase like this too. I love Leyendecker's work but there's a limit to what can be gleaned from him, and some artists just exclusively study him til all their work is some weird facsimile of his. I believe he only recently became 'the artist to emulate' because the 'kweers' (seemingly all at once) all recently found out that he was gay and it's trendy. Before then everyone was on Mucha and others.
Mucha and Leyendecker specifically get very redundant though, but it's understandably because the body of work they left behind was majority advertisements. So now the artists going through those phases, all their art ends up looking like ads kek.
No. 1823449
>>1822987Okay, so, using basic grammar and punctuation means one person complaining about her is the exact same as the next? Please make it make sense,
nonnie.
>>1822913If you don't know anything about TwistedDisaster then you're not exactly qualified to answer, are you? And since when does watching 'Creepshow Art' videos make you an expert on gauging personal beef between strangers on the internet? How can you possibly watch all of them and not understand that was an IRL stalking situation with lolcow drama on the side? Since when does me not liking one artist's videos mean that I have personal beef with her or know her in any way? It's literally called the art SALT thread, it doesn't always have to be a hugbox for nonas that pretend to be smarter than they actually are. I miss when we were able to articulate responses that actually made sense. That being said, both of you need to get off the internet, go outside, and get in touch with reality more often. Seriously.
No. 1823771
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An update on the Mgong situation:
>no longer private>upset because only her works depicting women became popular instead of her works depicting men>upset because she doesn't want a male following>also doesn't want a foreign female followingOverall, she's just upset her art isn't performing well, which is a normal thing to be upset about. On the other hand, what was she expecting? Most of what she posts nowadays is fat "cuntboy" art, which appeals to two particular niches that aren't big at all. She would do great just posting regular, non tranny-adjacent work. No matter how amazing her style is, no one wants to reblog fat nazi tif porn publically kek(picrel)
>>1823246Pace yourself and ensure every piece you are working on is an improvement from the last. Take little things and focus on aspects to improve on for that piece, ex; the background or faces. Doing that, I've been able to see improvement each month. It's all about consistency
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>>1823771Samefagging with missed milk, she made a new alt account. She's purging her other account. Starting strong though with her vague sad tweets, I suppose.
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>>1823778nta but shes seems to be on a all out spergout,she has deleted some tweets but damn am i keking
No. 1825537
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"lol look at my quirky wholesome horror school shooter oc!! he's so quirky and edgy and funny and he's a wizard who has a wand that's actually his gun and he he takes no shit from those twitter people!! isnt that so edgy and quirky and wholesome???"
No. 1825566
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>>1825537>>1825538Oh, that motherfucker again. I blocked him when he first appeared on my timeline during the crazy spiderverse discourse earlier this year. He had some awful takes about shipping and pro/anti shit, I can only find this scribbled over version of the last "panel" now. Iirc his point was that people ship anything and that it's all
problematic because it's not canon, so this person marked which ships apparently are and aren't according to them kek
His art pisses me off so much, it's so fucking ugly. The colors are bad and I just can't stand that overly detailed painting for a simple character joke he always does. It also just generally pisses me off that he gained so many followers off of stickmen and drama baiting
No. 1825587
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>>1825566“Something that doesn’t exist”
oh the irony
No. 1825716
Trigger warnings are for the retarded
>>1825566I'm 100% sure that this is a pooner.
No. 1825744
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>>1825716Really? Something about the abhorrent color choices and subject matter in the non-stickmen artworks just feels so distinctly moidish to me.
No. 1826460
>>1825744wow
his art is complete fucking dogshit
no wonder he's so defensive and responsive to anything random people say about his art lol
No. 1826664
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What exactly is she teaching here? This looks so unfinished and rushed to me and I don't think its much different from the WIP post besides the over "detailed" water and blobby birds.
https://x.com/yueko__/status/1737982678971150836?s=20https://x.com/yueko__/status/1732258864652005505?s=20 No. 1826785
>>1826764Too much considering how lazy their art has gotten. You can see the blurriness in the ai, the attempts to adjust it, you can see even it in the timelapses. She will outline and then lazily base color and shadow, then suddenly it's all shifted to the left and fully rendered. You can see this in the timelapse video she has for Nightmare Before Christmas, look at Jack's chest. Also the lining is just uncovering a layer, not drawn out. Then you have the different art styles between multiple people in a photo.
I used to like her art, she can do art. It's stupid to say she can't, but I cannot stand the lighting not matching up the fight sources and how shitty everything looks now in everything she puts out. Thats why she puts out so much so fast compared to one or two a month.
No. 1826818
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I was browsing through insta on my explore and found the left pic. I was certain that I had seen something similar before and so my initial reaction was a bit of annoyance but I wonder what anyone else’s opinion would be on this?
No. 1826845
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Any nonnas do 2d animation? What software would you recommend for a complete beginner who just wants to try it out? I see a lot of recommendations for After Effects but I'm not keen on supporting Ad*be and can't find a working pirated version.
No. 1826847
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Sakimichan draws the same shitty coomer tier rendermaxxed shit over and over again, I don't understand why is she notable to have a Wikipedia article. Almost certainly made by her coomer simps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakimichan No. 1826853
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>>1826850Seems like her work was never good. Picrel is from 2018, she nailed the AI-generated coomer art look before AI.
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>>1826847>>1826850>>1826853unpopular opinion but I liked her early style, much more details and line work
No. 1826883
>>1826856Same, as a teen new to art i thought her earlier not-coom art was super pretty. As time went on it got more porny and made me dislike it more and more until I dropped her completely.
She's so famous for her porn now, I honestly think if she hadn't gone to draw porn she could have been one of the most respected artists on the internet by now and it could have given her really cool career opportunities. Like how that moid got to help out working on detective pikachu because he made pokemon fanart. He's also a known coomer but he doesn't draw or post it himself so he could maintain a professional image outwards that allowed family friendly companies to work with him.
No. 1827042
>>1826847read
>>1826785 for my reply I guess lol
No. 1827070
>>1826845I use Pencil2D for roughs/initial passes, then move my work into CSP for clean up and colour once I'm happy with the timing and movement. My version of it is pretty outdated so I'm not sure if it's been improved kek, but I like how simple it is and prefer working with its timeline over CSP's when I'm keying and inbetweening. Another option for you to try could be Animation Paper, and OpenToonz is also interesting.
Good luck animating!
No. 1827305
>>1826945Ayrt, her art is "generic" because that's what's popular and she helped make it popular and generic. I was also thinking she would have developed further and in a not-coomer way to be respected in my hypothetical. Of course her lazy ai coomer art isn't respected as good art now. But I stand by the fact that she could have been seen as a great artist if she hadn't ever gone into coomer art.
Just out of interest, did anyone else use to follow her but got put off by the coomery nature of it? Or did it happen with any other artists?
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>>1827305There are many such cases kek I had to unfollow @jjjj_h_9 for that recently. She used to draw pretty neutral subjects and some BL and then went full coomer. I just don't care to see women with huge breasts in various positions. Though I still like her lineart and the videos showing how meticulous she is with breaking down anatomy. It's a shame that it all ends up looking stilted as if traced from a 3D model. When I first saw her art I felt like she was really close to amazing with how easily and accurately she could construct bodies, but the stiffness I saw back then just got worse
No. 1827373
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Nonnies sorry for stupid question but how do you practice drawing people? How can I practice more efficiently? Are there specific websites you use for references? I’m an OK artist but it takes me a while to get a sketch to look right. I wish I could draw like picrel relatively effortlessly (minus the render). Any tips would be much appreciated.
No. 1827728
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Why is twitter convinced this isn’t ai when is so obviously is? Is it just because there’s a big artist credited to it?
No. 1827786
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I want to know why bland lazy uninspired shit like this is considered fine art. Who is buying this?
No. 1827791
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>>1827788Yeah but why is a big amount of trash considered art? Those paintings took less skill and brainpower to produce than this literal pisscube.
No. 1827857
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>>1826856I liked it as well although it has always been generic. In the past it was promising. You could appreciate her skill at the very least. And honestly back then people were far more impressed by digital art bc of how new it was. Now there's ass tons of clones and she doesn't even make the art herself. I do agree that her art is nothing special, but if she actually pushed to establish herself as something other than a coom artist she could've at least maintained a level of skill in her art that is nonexistent now.
No. 1828026
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I absolutely hate the "popular youtube animator" artstyle that is the laziest ugly shit you've ever seen. 90% of the time they're just pure white and look like ugly emoji blobs just becuase it's easier and faster to produce more videos that way. What a way to scream "I give 0 shit about art or animation and just want more views and money". I hate that they ever got popular, I have 0 respect for them as artists/animators.
No. 1828074
>>1826847>I don't understand why is she notable to have a Wikipedia articleKek she isn't, that's why her article has been nominated for deletion
thrice ("may not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines") and only two or three users ever participated in the discussions on its deletion. I am highly positive that the only reason it is left up is because it is being safeguarded by her coomers; the damn page hasn't even been touched in almost a year.
No. 1828082
>>1828076nayrt but I remember her since her deviantart days and she was indeed skilled considering her age,I liked her stuff
she sold her soul to the devil for money
there are so many clones of her and some of them so good you can't even tell which is which, really a shame she followed the route she did
No. 1828261
>>1827406His courses have been torrented for probably a decade now.
The important thing is if you want feedback because, at least for the figure drawing courses, the difference between that specific premium course and his youtube videos isn't much.
No. 1828639
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this type of shit always feels so racist
No. 1828645
>>1828641the smugness of putting
neccesary too
No. 1828647
>>1828639what is going on here– I'm guessing those are the artist's ocs or something, but why the fuck would you put characters with fantasy features front and centre for this? one of them has whiskers kek
not even going to touch on everything else wrong with it lmao. how are the responses to it/the 'necessary' thread?
No. 1828650
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>>1828647its either things everyone can get by just doing studies or looking at refs to weird specific shit like this
No. 1828655
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>>1828650she also recommended some artists and they are all pretty bad. Genuinely dont get going for an animu stylization and drawing this shit.
No. 1828667
>>1828650Christ, that is not flattering art kek. Unless you're just deeply unobservant (and/or suck), studies should be all you really need to draw a given subject, and it sometimes feels like the artists who make these kinds of 'tutorials' just want to feel the high of sharing some secret, arcane knowledge that can only be gleaned by being something– it's weirdly gatekeep-y and narcissistic. I'm probably reading too much into it lol, but they're always so smug about simple stuff so it's hard to take them as genuine. I often think back to a series of ethnicity/phenotype guides made by an artist on DA years ago when I see posts like these, which were actually helpful because they were academic in their approach rather than idk antagonistic and smug.
>>1828655I don't mind animu/'anime-esque' styles, but art like this just feels kind of off to me. It's not technically atrocious, really, but there's just a twee/idealised undercurrent to it that I can't vibe with– everyone's smiling but it all feels so dead and corporate with its design choices and character cliches.
No. 1828687
>>1828670it's never too late to start or improve at art– I taught my 62 year old aunt basic fundamentals from scratch and now she does lovely watercolour landscapes and illustrations.
The only part about art that sucks with age is that it feels more embarrassing to be at a beginner level or make beginner mistakes because you think you're old enough that you should be past it, even if you're literally at the start of your art journey. You become more risk averse and wary of failure as you age, so getting past the ugly or awkward stages of art can be more difficult. Just gotta push through anon, you can do it!
No. 1828691
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>>1827728Oh I’m in this fandom kek. I think the artist is just shit at anatomy and made lazy use of BG assets. They’ve been drawing hands the same for years if you go back on their media tab. What happened was one of those fandom engagement farming accounts made an upscale of a thumbnail of the art that looked clearly ai
https://twitter.com/doufudanshi/status/1733239479282909598 No. 1829044
>>1828639They all look like they got hit in the face with a pipewrench. Absolutely curb stomped. This artist definitely has a numbers agenda, they really thought they were doing something with this post.
Making caricatures and then getting away with it by calling it a tutorial kek.
No. 1829103
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>>1828655Kek I hate this artist, somehow his art is both bland/soulless and irritating to look at for me. He has no design sense at all. I looked up
>>1828639 and it has over 63k likes atm. I feel bad for the kids who see this and treat it as inspo.
I can think of a ton of artists off the top of my head who do what these people want while having a stronger sense of appeal/style. Why not recommend artists like this?
No. 1829167
>>1828639>>1828650Got a lot of nerve assuming anybody would want to take advice from someone with this hideous of an art style. They barely look human. I’m laughing at the idea of like a 11 year old giving all their dark skinned charas teeth gaps bc of this though
>>1829103All of these works on the other hand are beautiful! I’d love some artist names if you’re willing, anon!
No. 1829494
>>1829215Likely a glitch, hashtags still work just fine for me. If you're making original artwork you will have the same problems on any platform unless you have some specific niche that you don't leave. Posting good art regularly will help you anywhere though
>>1829336Circle good triangle evil is for character design in kids shows, just ignore it.
No. 1829616
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>>1829106>>1829167>>1829185Left to right
Top row: Ramb_d, viprviprvipr/malikvipr, Gyimah Gariba
Middle row: Sesamefruit, Yap1co, iohym
Bottom row: Manny Edeko, lilitafae, likelihood_art
Also just adding this art by Gyimah because it’s my favorite one of his but he never posted it in decent quality on his own socmeds. Slight warning, he’s the least consistent one here when it comes to style but I don’t mind.
No. 1829879
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>>1829839nta but they are still really ugly. Older posters were also simplistic but looked interesting and hold up as real art to this day. Globohomo can only exist in our aesthetic depriven marvel universe loving hellhole of a timeline.
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No. 1829970
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>>1829897that looks like shit out of a horror comic
No. 1830078
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I confess I'm a huge hater. I don't think it's fair to be this young, beautiful and talented and probably intelligent too. Some people really just hit the lottery. This is kuri huang btw, she's an amazing artist but it annoys me when amazing artists are also very good looking lol
No. 1830383
>>1830078Kek reading your second sentence I almost thought you were self-posting, but yeah I love Kuri Huang’s art too. Followed her years ago but your post just reminded me to check out her newest stuff again.
Personally if I get jealous of an artist, my one cope is I have different goals for my art and don’t necessarily want my art to look like theirs, so I don’t worry about it. Nothing I can do about looks though lol, I just accept it
No. 1830395
new thread, forgot the subject. Thanks
nonny for reminding me.
>>1830393>>1830393>>1830393 No. 1832288
>>1796733so, im not self taught, im a dropout who skates by on talent who spent the last couple years in a art education and screenprinting. now that ive secured somewhat of a bag, i want to shake the rust off and pack about five years of dedicated study into 2024. i am cribbing from courses ive taken as well as forcing myself to work towards actual goals for my art. this second thing is probably whats fucking you the most: its hard to have self discipline in the small moments when you have no big goals. i used a wimpier version of this last year and started seeing big improvement and finding time to do commissions. so, here's my strat for big moves in 2024:
>pick one to three long goals, brainstorm the smaller goals you will need to accomplish these things. for me, i dont give a shit about cons, fandoms or galleries, but i do like my city, so by the end of the year i want to be regularly cranking out hand made prints and shirts, and i want to be a better traditional painter so i can decorate my house with real art that didnt cost me 2 grand. acknowledging that i was disinterested in the art goals i had when i was 18 (i used to want to be a comic book artist, now i dont even really read them) and embracing the parts of making art i actually like (mess, working with my hands, meeting other art people) was surprisingly big for me. what do you actually want? dont say money or followers, thats too big. maybe you actually want to participate in a fandom. maybe what you actually want is to be less online. maybe you just want to draw your personal fantasy life, or make a webcomic. >build a syllabus around your goals. mine include printmaking, some minor business stuff, and painting. i used chat gpt to give me an idea of where to start by asking it to make me a year long syllabus for a self taught printmaker, and to include links to free online youtube courses relevant to each lesson. it didnt give me a perfect syllabus (like it included two weeks to explore materials, which is too basic to be useful to me, so i replaced that with museum trips and some research goals) but it did give me the format i needed to tweak. ive divided up the 52 weeks that make up a year into 2 week blocks that cover certain subjects, and written them down in a Moleskine pro project planner. my goals are listed in pencil so i can edit as i got, and i will log my progress in this planner in pen. >my fancy art school kicked my ass to make me good when i had fundamentals classes that made me sketch everyday, and made me finish something big every two weeks. you should sketch everyday, and finish something big every two weeks. personally i dont set daily time goals because it doesnt work with my schedule, ive set it so i need 5 filled sketchbook pages a week and a painting/print every two weeks. but some people like to set a timer and make themselves sit in front of a tablet or sketch for like an hour a day. whatever works for your brain. >accept that you will fuck up and get behind. its fine. your discipline muscles arent what theyre gonna be, even if you work hard in other areas of your life. youll get sick, busy, discouraged, whatever. its literally fine. a year is such a long time and even if you fuck off for two months you can always pick back up your syllabus and just stretch this party into 2025. >consider finding a trad artist on patreon to follow, even if your interests are digital. there are less grifters and trend chasers in that space. i follow a nobody (but extremely skilled) artist from my hometown pay her 25 a month to have access to her figure drawing courses and huge library of nude references that she shoots herself. because her courses are online, i can practice digitally if i feel like it, but the thing about art is that trad skills always translate well to digital. over the course of a year i will have paid her like 300 dollars, but she has cheaper tiers and i pay for it by cancelling some streaming services and returning to a life of piracy. there are hundreds of trad artists online like this who made their money doing traditional art courses but started to shift to cheaper models of online course giving after the pandemic. being able to regularly make art and finding yourself in the flowstate that you can achieve that way IS the reward,
nonny. once you push past that first month of effort creating your new routine, you will be amazed how easy and genuinely fun it will be. c'mon, new years is in three days, chop chop!